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WP:BLPCRIME: Non-notable beyond association to Epstein; I suggest restoring the redirect to Brian Vickers#Personal life. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:41, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I feel the need to add that this nomination is based on Wikipedia policy, not on my personal beliefs about the subjects. Per policy, we do not publish biographies for living people who are only notable for have allegedly committed a crime but have not been convicted (WP:BLPCRIME). I strongly condemn the behaviour of Epstein, those criminally associated with him, and everyone who covered up for his crimes. Please keep the discussion civil and assume good faith of other editors. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:49, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It could be argued that, that crime being part of a larger net of associations and implications, and not petty theft in Tesco, this page is relevant enough to be kept, especially given its enormous informative value for anyone researching the case. There are plenty pages open on murder cases, freemasonry, and such, that found no killer, or might be ongoing, or that consider hypotheses and allegations but nothing further, and are still up. Maybe there's a way, rule-wise, to group it with that kind of article, rather than the non-allowed one. ~2026-90736-0 (talk) 09:01, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and redirect per nom. Sugar Tax (talk) 15:48, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
(Personal attack removed) The public deserves to know who these people are. ~2026-87606-0 (talk) 19:30, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
YES. It it extremely disgusting to ask for a deletion. ~2026-87037-6 (talk) 21:57, 8 February 2026 (UTC) — ~2026-87037-6 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Please do not accuse other editors of misconduct without evidence. Choosing not to have an article on this person has no bearing on the crimes they committed. QuicoleJR (talk) 03:34, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Only bad people would want to delete this ~2026-87037-6 (talk) 21:57, 8 February 2026 (UTC) — ~2026-87037-6 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
It should not be deleted as she is a vital part of the Epstein files, that's precisely all she's known for. She's one of the few people about whom we have some sort of information, deleting the page would not make any sense. ~2026-86786-1 (talk) 17:58, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that this article shouldn't be deleted,as it continues important information about Epstein and his victims ~2026-86623-6 (talk) 18:34, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
(BLP violation removed) ~2026-88447-0 (talk) 09:45, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not speculate on redacted details of the files or spread baseless conspiracy theories. I'd advise you to read Wikipedia's policies, particularly our policy on living persons and our notability guidelines. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:41, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Reliable sources have claimed that she had rose as high as #2 in the Epstein organzation, occupying the role of Ghislaine Maxwell. Unless you think the Wikipedia page for Maxwell herself is "insignificant", then this article should stay. Noahmcd (talk) 21:14, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. She is very central to the associations of Epstein, as documented in new releases.[1] Her centrality and the magnitude of the controversy may well satisfy the level of "involuntary public figure" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure). Also, the accusation guideline of Wikipedia could have an ethical caveat (or rather, lacking the guideline detail necessary) in her case: The Epstein files release is mandated by the U.S. Congress, with Congress saying that the names should not be hidden away and redacted, even due to consideration of reputational damage (exceptions apply, but Sarah Keller did not satisfy them and her name is in the documents). A key motivator behind this law is that there has been a failure to prosecute crimes in the Epstein case. People cannot be convicted without due prosecution. Congress specifically decided that the lack of legal guilt is not to shield the involved people's publicity, even reputational damage. Note that I am not arguing that she is guilty, but that her bio is indeed a matter of public research interest as she may be also be a argued to be a victim etc., even if she could be held responsible for crimes as well. She is a key person of interest - one of 5 closes persons of interest as statistically indicated in the epsteinexposed link. Finsamaritan (talk) 10:06, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support redirect/merge to Brian Vickers per nom. If more sustained coverage comes out of the story it can be merged back out but for now I’m just not seeing any coverage not related to her association with Epstein (see WP:Notability is not inherited). The difference with Maxwell is that she both played arguably the top role in the entire child trafficking ring (something backed up from a legal standpoint as well as in loads of sourcing) and was also notable as a British socialite. This person is only here-and-there being accused aside from the recent EFTA releases and unless I’m missing something hasn’t been officially charged in relation to the (extremely heinous, mind you) case (WP:BLPCRIME). Not that the government will likely ever charge people in relation to this, but I digress… EF5 00:02, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
    Reliable sources have also claimed that Kellen played a similar role to Maxwell (the #2 in the organization) in 2004 when Maxwell found a new man, and Kellen has been described by a judge as criminally responsible, so that makes her notable herself. Yes, it was done for Epstein, but the fact that she was so heavily involved herself and not just a random associate justifies her article.
    The point about Maxwell being a socialite is irrelevant. 99% of her notability is her involvement in a child sex trafficking ring that allegedly involved heads of state, billionaires, and royalty, not her days as a socialite. By that logic, Maxwell should be merged into an article about her father Robert. Noahmcd (talk) 01:00, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
    Also echoing what SL says above - Epstein was one of the worst human beings (can you even call him human?) that the world has ever seen and was an incredibly horrendous individual, but my vote is based on Wikipedia policy and not my personal opinion. EF5 13:12, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Brian Vickers#Personal life per nom. Kelob2678 (talk) 23:57, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
    Leading involvement in a sex trafficking ring that allegedly spanned billionaires, heads of states, and royalty is far more notable than a race car driver who came in 12th place at nascar. Noahmcd (talk) 01:02, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and redirect per nom.Lolamelody123456 (talk) 00:40, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or Redirect per WP:BLPCRIME. Epstein was a sack of shit, but being connected to him isn't enough to meet NBIO. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 03:51, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and maybe redirect until a time when there might be more notability. OrangeWaylon (talk) 20:24, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or Redirect This is a pretty clear WP:BLPCRIME violation. Just for the starting simple fact that there is no guilty verdict as of yet, so the article is a non-starter from the get go. Before even considering any notability independent of connection to Epstein. There may be some validity for a list or otherwise broader topic article on associates of Epstein, but it would again only be appropriate for those found guilty in a court of law for that association. Otherwise, it would just be accusations, which would also be a violation of BLP policy. SilverserenC 00:14, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Keep.There was no issue with the page for several years, now that it's politically important and convinient to frame only men as associates of Epstein, suddenly there is a delete request... Para Outros (talk) 14:26, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Do not delete, ever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-90834-3 (talk) 00:51, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep.

1) Why did the page not violate the rules in 2020, when it was created? Why was this not noticed before? Is it common for wikipedia articles to be noticed for deletion after 6 whole years?

2) The rule in WP:BLPCRIME states that people not covered by the category Public Figures should not be covered. The category "Public Figures" WP:PUBLICFIGURE asks to follow the definition given by [Wikipedia article for "public figure"]: "A public figure is a person who has achieved fame, prominence or notoriety within a society, whether through achievement, luck, action, or in some cases through no purposeful action of their own." Sarah Kellen fits this definition, falling precisely in the "no purposeful action of their own" part of it. Her being at this point repeatedly present in a huge number of news articles from various - and some highly reputable - publications, makes her absolutely relevant as a Public Figure, so I genuinely do not understand where the argument for deletion is coming from in the first place. The fact she is so heavily involved that numerous sources needed to report on her, absolutely and with certainty makes her a public figure, not the other way around, where her not being famous in other ways would lead to the deletion of an important, well sourced and well written Wikipedia article related to a crucial and historical case.~2026-89401-8 (talk) 10:03, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]


  • Keep. Female predators shouldn't be exempt from the shame we give to male predators. They should be held to the exact same standard of responsibility and culpability. It could also raise awareness in the general public which could make it seem less unbelievable so people could look at women with more scrutiny potentially leading to the greater protection of children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luxp7 (talk • contribs) 13:21, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ https://www.epsteinexposed.com/persons/sarah-kellen
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