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>>2332521 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc for writers. It's what you think it'll be.
https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Vote Pig Nixon tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/xkpm9x.png - VP flowchart.
https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - VP Hawaii crisis.
https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - VP Reuther tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/sl8afo.jpeg - VP Wallace tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/r8c6i3.jpg - VP Goldwater tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - VP Schlafly path. Peak evil Republican fascism let's go!
https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - VP Yorty tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/3v5h8h.pdf - Leaked Yorty Doc. Exactly what you'd expect from mango.
https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP 2024 partial rework leak, Republicans weren't evil enough.
https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - VP 2025 events leak.
https://files.catbox.moe/wc3nax.png - Hall flowchart. Go left-liberal or get a fail state.
https://files.catbox.moe/iwmxg6.pdf - Manchuria doc #1.
https://files.catbox.moe/cgaqrz.pdf - Manchuria doc #2.
https://files.catbox.moe/y2hc34.pdf - Manchuria doc #3.
https://files.catbox.moe/96kjev.pdf - Manchuria doc #5.
https://files.catbox.moe/71ilh5.png - Central America design.
https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart.
https://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf - New Granada walltext.
https://files.catbox.moe/r86sw7.pdf - 200p wall of text about Colombian soccer mechanics.
https://files.catbox.moe/9nqmlk.pdf - Iberian Wars rework document.
https://files.catbox.moe/5anjuv.png - 5 new Caribbean nations flowchart
https://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - British West Indies lore document
https://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution for TNO.
https://files.catbox.moe/ptvdb1.pdf - Old Indonesia proposal.

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>>2332521 (OP)
>>2332522
>REWORK REVIEW
>TNO fails to release a compatibility patch as the mod enters its third month of being unplayable.
>All leaked internal estimates for the Iberia rework's release have been missed.
>An Amur build leaks onto BiliBili: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17ek5ByEob/?spm_id_from=333.1387.upload.video_card.click
>TNO:RA updates to the newest DLC!
>Rises Again also rediscovers the cut pre-release India content, pledge to restore it.
>TNO:R also updated to work with the newest DLC, says that Berezniki will be their next major release.
>AMPU, the leaked US proposal for TNO:R, is ditched and turned into a submod.
>TFO teased some Chinese content they're working on?
>PNO is working on Squidward content; unironically more interesting than TNO.
>Some YouTube drama came, went, and was redirected from TNO to GWR in under a week.
>Mango got into some nothingburger Discord fight that somehow lead to a LARPy silencing campaign.
>Ashley resurfaces; pledges to report TNO to MSS for supporting Manchurian separatism.

>LEAKED BUILDS
Don't let them erase history.
2018: https://mega.nz/file/nRhmFShK#rjgJXFH5fh7Y9tfIxtH47YuuOOeJhylhrcJfujCdgcg
2021: https://gitlab.com/IllyaTokar/git-days-of-europe
2022: https://gitlab.com/retardedsolutions/git-days-of-europe/
2023:
https://mega.nz/file/bBFGHZJT#a4lNsnLLzHWHG1iic5yHwgL1kK1VAE5qmT2Iqi7k2EM - Hotline Manchukuo
https://mega.nz/file/TIMmVBKC#939MhfLfR3G0UQdenlK0R5AY54x8lGlnSs42H8BzHhw - Illusions End
https://mega.nz/file/SBtSmZAD#CDYh4s4SBz3GjvBSOjOpQ4RnGgaDhnq39ehNTVFzbhs - Penelopes Web
https://mega.nz/file/CZt1CZwa#O0Yfzil-VqfJBwH_yuWvGkbDK5XF7DG5iM7rdO-rqdg - Germany Branch
https://mega.nz/file/SJ0HjDrC#jeTd9dcOuCeNpAZvrM_tFJjaSKjWLhVpSibBVqj_eWg - Shifting Tides

I should write a fanfiction set in TNO's Ethiopia.

Any more Yippie leaks recently?

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>>2332606
Keep in mind that the Italian Fascists had a song dedicated to Bleaching Ethiopian and Somalian girls

>>2332637
A wasted effort, Trust me if they actually knew what somalis looked like they would march straight back to rome

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So it turns out that Error Log, the guy who lost a debate to Mango, is actually the alt of a friend of LoreDad, a HOI4 YouTuber and former Kalter Krieg developer. The channel is completely astroturfed and this explains why LoreDad propped up EL since day one. There's more on KF including Error Log praising himself on Discord so have fun with that.

>>2332642
So basically every hoi4 drama is a bunch of retards baseding out at each other?

>>2332647
fucking janny autocorrect, I meant fagging

>>2332636
Its in fine tuning so probably something new soon, that usually means dev info is more open to see

Oh ffs he's starting with that shit again

>>2332670
just ignore him, why would you even acknowledge him, are you retarded?

>>2332522
> Keeping the fake gus hall flowchart
Faggoted thread, wont be using this

>>2332647
Yeah, pretty much. It's all fake.

>>2332673
The guy that called it fake in the last thread provided no proof of his claims. If you know it's wrong, post the real deal and the baker will change it in the next thread.

>>2332640
Somali girls tend to look quite pretty, actually. Especially compared to the men.

>>2332683
It's straight up just the schlafly flowchart with words changed around, it talks about the old lore for how hall gets elected instead of the new one in the yippie flowchart, it also uses the old portrait in the vote pig doc instead of the new.

How are you possibly so retarded as to believe this, send me your skull you subhuman you need to be analyzed for scientific purposes.

Why do you hate Uk flowchart :(
https://files.catbox.moe/dn6eha.png
Second bake without it

>>2332920
>>2332521 (OP)
>BAKER HERE
I must've tested it when Catbox had a brief hiccup or something earlier today because the link didn't load for me so I assumed it was broken. It loads just fine now so I'll make sure to include it in the next bake and I also tagged the OP to give your post more visibility.

>>2332521 (OP)
The DV leaks link is broken

>>2332942
Should've gone with MEGA. That's the second one the TNO devs have taken down. But to be fair you can figure out most routes by checking their Wiki page's history section.

>>2332637
Both the protagonists I have in mind are girls, but one of them is far older than the other. I just don't know if I want to make the Ethiopian or the Italian the older one.

Hi Nicola, I know you're in this thread. Stop roleplaying as Requiem devs, you retarded sperg.

>>2332521 (OP)
>that pic
Christ in heaven it's beautiful. Yours, I presume?

>>2333070
It's probably not Nicola but one of the former devs that left in the split. I think he's more of a Discord seether. Besides he seems to be far more angry at TFR by a mile.

>>2333073
He credited it over Mango's grave.

>>2333074
why are people angry with TFR? it's a mod that actually releases content, I'd think everyone would be sucking their dick. Compared to this dead mod, their updates are inspiring.

>>2333080
envy

>>2333080
They started working on TFR about the same time as realism clique took over TNO. They did the "TNO style and feel" better than the nuTNO itself and made vastly more contetent and all TNO has to show is Fiji skeleton, Mexico demo, Brazil demo and Ukraine demo.
No wonder TFR poached TNO player base.

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>>2333080
Plenty of reasons but most of the seethers are mad about it being politically incorrect and "not serious". "It's a chud mod". You get the idea. Meanwhile most of us just want to have fun so they can just sit there and be miserable if they want.

This joke of you namefagging as devs of mods you don't like got old when you started to do it a full year ago.

>>2333245
Dont respond to him.

This time its extra ironic anyway because it insinuates that listening to your players is le bad

Did 4chan add namefag protection by adding identifiers?

Seems they didnt and that guy just has a random string of shit in his name now, wouldve been too great to be true

>>2333284
It's a trip code. It's an old way of identifying yourself since the original 2chan days. Anyone can just use them so they're about as insecure and explorable as they get and only morons think they mean anything.

>>2333286
Fair enough, I didnt use 2chan and only really know them from basedjack anyway.
And yeah they are insecure as sin, I mean you can just use two different devices and get around any IP and MAC restriction anywhere too.

Wouldve been somewhat cool regardless to atleast make the spam slightly less constant

Trying to make the old TNO music mod (Last Waltz of Europe) work with Requiem and it's a fucking pain.
At first TLWOE simply doesn't show up and is replaced with the default TNO soundtrack. I change a line of code it appears but it's without any songs. I change another line of code it breaks both TLWOE and the TNO Sountrack.
I fucking hate coding.

>>2333305
Surely if you ask the Requiem devs for help you'll get some?

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>>2333311
It's alright. I just remade the music mod from scratch and it works fine. I believe it was because both mods had the designation "tno_music" so I just changed that to "tno_tlwoe"

Time for some Rodzaevsky Gaming.

very trustworthy sources tell me that some content is coming out soon and it's not actually the africa update. well... "soon", it depends, you know how TNO works. But i am certain Africa rework isnt coming as the next update.

>>2333397
we know about spain

>>2333398
they also doing shit for america it seems

>>2333397
is there any chance at all they rollback the africa changes, or do they at least understand, after their nonsense britain demo rework, that they need to release the same if not more content than they are removing?

>>2333402
no

>>2333397
>Very trustworthy sources
>He's basically quoting from the Iberia toozer from last month

>>2333406
suck a fat one

>>2332642
>former Kalter Krieg developer
That's unsurprising.

>>2333397
youre a retarded autist

>>2333399
From what i know its in fine tuning now, which means mango for all his flaws is still better than Lamfag and his eternal rework reich

Any news on what Requiem is doing?

Is Tsars and Soviets being tested yet?
What will the update be after that
What are they working for Quality of Life and bugfixes?

Are there any lolcows like Mango at Requiem? I'm new to the mod and want to know as much as possible.

>>2332521 (OP)
Why my nigga Crow is doing here? Blud died 3 times already

>>2333411
Iberia has been in fine tuning since last September or something so you might not want to celebrate just yet. Although yes, it's probably doing better than the German rework.

>>2333425
Their next release is supposed to be be Berezniki a new Russian unifier. After that I think they're doing fixes across Russia but I'm not sure. Most QoL and fixes they've done has been fixing the combat and economy is a bunch. They don't really have any big lolcows though. Five was a bit of one early on with his many announcements before the others reined him in but that's pretty tame. They also had a lead named Jeff that ragequit one day, leaked mostly TNO documents to "own" them and did all of this under his real account. But that was over as soon as it started. Surprisingly, orienting your mod around gameplay instead of politics seems to help here.

Hope that helps.

>>2333489
Pretty sure the impersonator faggot showed up malding at Requiem leads in these threads for the first time after Jeff embarrassed himself. How coincidental...

>>2333513
Nah it happened before that too

Especially right before Requiem announced the name change there was alot of namefagging going on.

>>2333079
Counterpoint there's actual content for the other mods to put in an OP for the general so you don't need anyone to make joke images for it.

>>2333513
Jeff had nothing to do with that. Like the other anon said it predates him having anything to do with the team and when he did attack them he used his real Google Drive and Discord accounts to do so. After that fiasco he promptly vanished from the HOI4 community.

>>2333517
>>2333515
Fair enough.

>>2333425
If you want the scoop on Requiem look at the questions they ask in their poll channel. Such as questions about raiding, air force balance, 2wrw balance, their new Infantry Fighting Vehicle unit class, armoured cars, which US presidents should be replaced, takeout trees yes or no, polls about multiplayer stability, and regional difficulty balance.

Oh and an example of a modernized Petlin portrait and asking if it's better than the old one.

Seems to me like they are working on all of that behind the scenes and polling the community for feedback

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>>2333560
>Giving the plebs a say

>>2333560
*Fakeout trees tho if there is a hoi4 tree that will give deliver Chinese to my house I'd call that a worthwhile innovation to modding

When will they fibally give France content in this piece of shit mod fucking hell

>>2333655
Never. It was reworked again because of DV. Enjoy your shrunken skeleton.

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>>2332521 (OP)

No, but seriously, what the fuck were you thinking when they decided to integrate DV? It ruins the South African War, Germany's lore, France's lore, the UK's lore all to add content to some random shitholes no one cares about.

Is there at least still a shot of Manchukuo coming out?

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>>2334227
In the latest thread some anon (take that with a grain of salt, of course) said that the Manchuria dev is stalled

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>>2334235
TNO has manged to make me lose the ability to be disappointed.

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>>2334227
>DV
Literally just nepotism. The person making it is friends with Mango & Co so therefore it gets included and now a huge chunk of the mod is destroyed and has to be reworked. Many such cases.

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>>2334227
>>2334249 (me)
Reminder that they knew that DV integration would completely fuck over all existing content but ultimately didn't let that get in the way of OTL slop.

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Threadly reminder that we're losing the WAW for this.

>Replacing WAC and SAW with that nothingburger
I fucking hate nudevs so much it's unreal.

>>2334416
>maybe 2 regions moving to one side or the other
Holy shit you can't be serious

>>2334416
This is satire. I refuse to believe this is sincere, but that's a really well done parody of the nuTNO team

>>2334475
It's a real toozer for DV.

>>2334250
>>2334416
being serious, whats their plan here? all the toozers look like garbage compared to stuff being put out 5 years ago, let alone the mods people keep churning out now. is it even worth developing the mod if its just a parody of updating irrelevant parts of the map while they keep removing content? what the fuck is going on

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>>2334537
They do it because they hate the mod they hijacked and the userbase they inherited. Once you understand this and the fact that they just want to retell historical events it all makes sense.
>"Why not make their own mod from scratch then?"
Because then they'd be a worse and more irrelevant Kalterkrieg.
>"But it's worse."
If you care about TNO and HOI4 gameplay. If all you want to do is to write about historical socialist politics and anti-colonial struggles in Africa in the 60s, then it makes sense, doesn't it?

is there any news on the uk? is that team even alive anymore? I know all of italy dev is dead and gone, but they released the britain demo so you'd hope something would be happening

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>>2334559
It's presumed dead.
Most of the people that actually got the demo made are gone and only Frost remains. Considering his track record, there's a pretty good reason to assume that it's just completely dead.
>Mango made him co-lead on day one of his ascension
>Never made anything ever
Shocker.

So I played the requiem south africa and I gotta say I wasn't impressed. The ANC and Boers have no content and the game ends after the war. There were like 5 focuses for each outcome of the war which was nice but not enough. I didn't really care for 70% of the events which the game bombarded me with.

It suffers from the same design flaws as the base TNO. It spends too much time polishing a tiny time period and blueballs you at the end. If the writing was spread out between different paths and longer scale it would've been good but I don't want to read 100th event about people I don't know doing stuff I don't care about. Even in visual novells you get to make choice and different routes have different content so this is not a critique of VN in HOI4 but of how this VN is implemented

>>2335163
Makes sense sense the mod tries to be a compromise between 2024 TNO and old TNO. Doesn't mean it always hits the mark. Play Rises Again instead, it's probably more up your alley. Hopefully with time Requiem sees the writing on the wall and moves further away from TNO's design philosophy instead of just putting the brakes on their bad reworks.

>>2335208
RA suffers from another problem which is lack of effort and very low production quality. I think there's something both sides need to learn from eachother. Requiem needs to spread it's wings and move on instead of polishing old piece of demo content from 2020 and RA needs to concentrate on a single country instead of making 400 sloppy paths scrapped together from unfinished code.

>>2335306
Don't you mean the other way around? But yes if so I agree that both mods can get better. I hope they will eventually. At least RA has the excuse of being a solo project and honestly even if they don't always deliver at least they aren't aggressively self destructing like TNO is.

>>2333397
actually soon? or Soon™

Morocco toozer dropped, Iberia soon?

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>>2332606

>>2336086
They dropped an Iberia toozer last month too, it doesnt mean shit

>>2336086
That's nice, but can we have a toozer for the compatibility patch next?

>>2336152
It was supposed to release in late December. It's Brazil all over again.

>>2336086
If the toozers keep dropping than maybe.

Any news on the IJA, IJN and Japanese Airforce?

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>>2336187
>He believes in toozers by these people

>>2336199
All the latest leaks are in the OP but it's pretty much assumed that Sphere development is practically dead.

>>2336206
you unlocked a memory in me lmao, when i still was waiting for Moskowien, what a time!

>>2336199
the manchuria team is the same as Guandong, so they'll take a long time but the content is garanteed to be good

>>2336230
What a time, when there was still hope for this piece of shit. But hey at least Micronesia will be historically accurate soon.

>>2336233
This is just factually wrong. Several key people from the Guangdong team are gone and the head of the Manchuria team is Yugo. He's OK according to thread consensus but it's a completely different crew and years after people were optimistic.

>>2336241
really? didnt know, i guess we're not getting Manchuria either

>>2336143
This is Muti's dark vision for Italy.

>>2336206
We need a Redux that has all the pre-release kino that never happened.
Indiana Josias, Farouk's Wild Ride, Iraqi Murder Mystery, COOL, Meinhof...

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>>2336605
>Indiana Josias
Kino. Insane how we went from that to a generic Muslim collaborator regime led by apolitical opportunistic strongmen or whatever generica Lamounier wanted to turn it into. If you can find their design docs I'm sure the Rises Again dev wouldn't mind implementing them. That seems to be his mission in life, picking up the gold nuggets that the devfags throw into the garbage bin and winning big.

>>2336086
Notice how they’re using the old Algeria borders? Looks like dv is going to be a standalone update rather than a bundle which is gay

>>2336709
Nothing special about it, tho. Last summer's Iberia teaser mentioned Burgundy in like half of its events, even though we know it's on the chopping block.

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>>2336522
Honestly, of all the things that TNO toozed over the years the Italy stuff still pisses me off the most.
Scorza was one of the first playthroughs I did when the mod first released and I really enjoyed it, and when they announced 4 successor Duces I was incredibly hyped.
>Imperialist Balbo
>Securocrat Pavolini
>Futurist Muti
>Mystic Giani
We got none of that. Nada. Nil. Italy had content removed from it and I can guarantee that if anything was coded for Fascist Italy in the first place they scrapped it all by now.

>>2336792
We actually know for a fact that it was started and scrapped several times. Yes, several. It's even more reworked than you think.

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>>2336794
It looked so interesting...

>>2336811
From my knowledge The duces are basically unchanged policy wise, They just needlessly expanded their trees and added minigames

>>2336835
We got leaks last year proving otherwise. Germany and Italy weren't enemies any more but more skin to competitors that respected each other's boundaries. This makes the choice of Duce matter less and locks in their forpol when the original plans were more dynamic. Another victim of Germany's plot armor really.

>>2332606
*Correntia

When’s yippie supposed to come out?

>>2336904
In their Twitter announcement of the US rework last summer, they stated 'next year'.
Highly unlikely, given how notorious this joke of a mod is at releasing updates (and especially those with full content, the last one we saw almost three years ago with Silicon Dreams)

Somebody drop the full Hubert Humphrey tree already.

>>2336904
November this year, possibly coinciding with the midterms for maximum cringe.
If you actually believe this I have a bridge to sell you.

>>2336976
A fag in the last thread had It and reagan but only posted the intro for reasons. Ill never understand these fucking people

>>2336844
speaking of foreign policy in the region, The geo politics of italy’s sphere is actually pretty interesting. They have a monopoly on middle eastern oil along with control of global trade via the Suez. The italians would be making so much money from their oil revenues alone that massive infrastructure investments and social safety nets are not a financial burden. Their only real competitors in terms of oil production are the americans since the Germans don’t export their oil considering they only have baku and iran and the japanese have so little they just prefer to buy italian.

>>2337029
I think it's to insult the devs. There was one that had the Schorner doc, said it was just a gutter Goring, and posted tidbits proving it while saying it was shit and that Lamounier was a fag. "It's not even worth leaking" seems to be a new thing for team members.

>>2337037
The only things the italians really worry about is the turks taking a bit of that oil revenue, The germans can’t really get a piece of the oil other than backing iran and its interests. If anything the germans probably don’t compete with italy in the middle east but in africa over algeria and french africa’s abundant uranium reserves

>>2337043
>The germans can’t really get a piece of the oil other than backing iran and its interests
This is what the Oil Crisis and backing the Ba'athists is for.
Shame the devniggers want to de facto remove it.

>>2337058
Hans! Why the fuck would we support arab socialists?
>They hate kikes and want to give us some of the oil.
5 billion reichsmarks to egypt!

>>2337355
Ba'athists used to be NatSoc in game until some retarded communists on the team whined about blackwashing minorities.

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Is literally no minor country capable of earning any amount of profit except via decisions and the only way to stave off debt is to conquer new lands? The fuck were they thinking with this economy system?

>>2337394
Former dev here. There were people on the team that wanted you to be able to be able to construct buildings that'd contribute to your growth. All of these ideas were shot down by Lam (the code lead) with only the infrastructure contribution to growth sneaking its way into the mod. If the gameplay gang had it their way you'd have equivalents to the office buildings in TFR except they'd also contribute to your development growth too depending on what you built. This refusal to let you (or the AI) directly impact the economy is why almost all countries without focus trees constantly get into debt crises and it's also why they have to bolt on a new economic mini game in every update.

tldr one man's bad decision ruined the economy system and made every update take 10x longer to make.

>>2336844
>>2337037
Removing the rivalry between Germany and Italy would be such a braindead decision. It would be such an interesting setup to have Italy become the fourth superpower and leverage its oil wealth to finance proxy wars. The oil crisis would even work perfectly as an existential threat to them in the late game.
Removing the rivalry also makes Germany's geopolitical situation less interesting as Italy aligning against them would be the most immediate threat against them that doesn't come from inside the Reich.

>>2337403
I normally do not post here, however just to give some insight into what affects atleast the initial gdp generation:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BuZjdllxc5mWEgeGicrledfjI0-NSGMGtrzE3BOVsdI/edit?usp=sharing

This was made by a Requiem Dev btw

>>2337404
I think italy and the reich are still rivals, At least by current lore it’s just that the italians still begrudgingly trade oil and industrial goods with the germans. also I think italians encourage jewish settlement in palestine which I definitely don’t think the germans like. By my reckoning they seem to be rivals who begrudgingly tolerate one another and try to keep out of each others hair until the oil crisis

>>2337432
>Keep out of each others way until the end of the planned reworked content that's been in dev hell for half a decade
Might as well be neutrals that pretend the other doesn't exist with how much impact it'll have. It's also completely retarded of them not to allow them to even try to improve their odds when the crisis hits.

Total TNO L.

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>Remove Atlantropa
>Be forced to rework all of Italy and all of the Triumvirate because its entire reason for existing is gone
>Be forced to re-rework Germany's forpol because you no longer have a reason to be enemies with Italy
>Re-rework both Italy and Germany to have them fully align with this new timeline you created
>Gain nothing lose the unique map and several conflict opportunities
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

>>2337505
Regular Triumvirate would already have a struggle competing with Germany, and then if you add Atlantropa their major ports become worthless and in exchange they gain barren salt plains and slow desertification of all lands around the Mediterranean.
Also Atlantropa'd Mediterranean looks like shit.

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>>2337511
Also, I don't think Atlantropa dam would survive long enough to be anywhere near completion. Even with direct German intervention to guard it if they wanted to, it would be a matter of national survival for every country in the Med to the point Italy would drop a nuke on it with Spanish consent because a total war with Germany would cause a lot less long term damage.

>>2337511
>They wouldn't be competitive as a reason
>Now they no longer compete
God forbid that we'd have an interesting underdog story about the 4th aspiring world power beating the odds. That might actually have been interesting. At every step of the road they made the stupidest, most boring decision imaginable.

I miss my fourth superpower Commie Italy anon, I miss her a lot.

Does anyone still have the Red Italy leader flowchart?

>>2337524
Just have Hitler publically call all mediterraneans subhuman and you get a split.

>>2337637
He already did that in Mein Kampf. Not saying I disagree with you but the German racial politics alone could justify a split.

Instead, we get nothing ever happening.

>>2337731
wasn’t it a gradual process starting with italys non enforcement of the final solution which dampened relations and then the alpine crisis which officially soured relations between the two? They may be rivals but italy is probably smart enough that they can only push germanys buttons so much before the teutons repeat the sack of rome