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 2802359[Last 50 Posts][1][2][Quote] [Voice Chat]>>2802368>>2802632>>2804400>>2804514>>2804586>>2804737>>2804800>>2807132>>2807962

Romanticization of the Medieval period is possibly one of the most Low-IQ, Jeetcoded worldviews somebody could have.

>Peasants (AKA 99% of the population) Worked an upwards of 14 hours a day, dawn to dusk, doing intensive labor and only receiving enough to just barely get by.

>You were only expected to live 40 years AT MOST. Assuming you didn't accidentally step on a loose thorn one day and then suddenly you start rotting from the inside-out due to how dirty your outer skin was
>Most of the towns that did exist were literally ankle-deep in Horse shit and riddled with rats and flies due to there not being any concept of hygiene beyond it being a "status symbol of the upper-class"
>If you were poor and were even remotely smart there was a chance of you literally being murdered because it could be the devil trying to deceive the people, or something.
>If war starts then you're probably going to get conscripted, given a spear at most, and then thrown at a wall of elite enemy cavalry, only to be mutilated and hacked up in the first 10 minutes of the battle

Now lets address some of the talking points that attempt to justify this worldview
<Da faith was stronger back then!
Most "religious" people back then not only had never read a bible, but were probably too illiterate to even read one even if they were offered to. It's the same as today where most people CLAIM to be Christian, but aren't actually, and they just wear the cross necklace to fit in. The difference is that at least today people would be capable of reading it.
<But da castles and da art!!!
Your chances of being royalty back then were even slimmer than your chances of being born into a decently-paid working class White family in a Western country. And can you guess who built all the castles and the art? I'll let you figure that one out. Believe me, you would NOT be one of them.
<Those are actually misconceptions and never actually happened! Da medieval period was clean and good!
Prove it. We have tens of thousands of writings from the era showing how abysmal it was. Prove that it wasn't.
<Well it was better then da modern era!
Nope. Just nope. Even with all the government surveillance, censorship, and propaganda we have today, we still have it WAY better now than they did back then. When was the last time you were literally on the verge of starvation, even while working a minimum wage job? And no, I don't mean your fat ass being hungry because you had to cut back on a Mcdonald's meal "deal". I mean when you were legitimately on the verge of starvation. When were you conscripted, handed the bare minimum, and then thrown head-first into a sea of ten thousand enemy soldiers? Never? Figured.
<Fuck you, you dumbass faggot faggot nigger nigger homosexual fucking commie jew! You're demoralizing me or something!
Ad Hominem.

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High iq thread.

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Apparently the authoritarian system was bad hmmm

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(9999.99999% of Europe was absolute monarchies)

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>>2802359 (OP)
It was better because it was majority White

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>>2802366
Wait…Do you mean to tell me when all of the money made from taxes goes directly to a wealthy family instead on institutions to help the people…..Then the living standards are shit?
FUCKING JEWISH PIECE OF SHIT PSYOP NIGGER STOP LYING YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T OKAY?

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>>2802367

turns out having a random dude "Chosen by god"(aka his great great great great great grandfather won a battle) isn't the best system

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>>2802372
instead of*

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I think it's due to fantasy in writing not shit like romeabos. Still an underrated and most importantly un properly represented time period.

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>>2802368
what kinda argument is ts
50 years ago we had majority white countries that were secular democracies with a centre-right economy that were legit the best places to live….

meanwhile all other government that have religion involved with them were shit holes (muslim countries)

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i would rather live in an anglo-saxon village during the great heathen armies invasions than whatever the fuck we have going on right now

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Nobody says this though
><But da castles and da art!!!
The Middle Ages didn't really have much art at all, or good one at that, he Renaissance came after it and was a period inspired by Greco-Roman classicism. The closest thing you can to art pieces like other eras is them trying to figure out perspective and that was late medieval period. Giotto was kind of goated doe tbhfam

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>>2802368
You can have a majority white country without living ankle-deep in horse shit.
Case in point: early 20th century

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>>2802382
Its better than today because it is more White

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Families were larger and there was sense of community and culture since you had to be around the same people working together.
Nowadays, people live alone and isolated in big cities as just another replacable cog in the machine while having no sense of belonging

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>>2802385
It is better than now

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peasants worked only like 4 hours what are you on, they had good communal living and felt a lot more united than whatever we have now

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>romanticizating the medieval period

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>>2802384
By that part I mean the undying obsession with the infrastructure of the nobles and royalty during the medieval Era, such as their palaces and castles.

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>>2802368
Low Kirk would prefer 1100's China to 1100's Europe.

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>>2802383
why we lying now

you would rather have your parents killed by some random invading force, be taken into some army forcibly and die of a fever at age 25??

but hey, it was BADASS AND TUFF, and woman have rights now (EVIL JEWISH LIBTARD STUFF) WOMAN = TRASH

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>>2802390
Your work actually contributed to your society in a tangible way instead of helping increase the stock price of some globohome ZOG corporation

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>>2802395
No. Anything that is more White is better
If you say otherwise you are a race traitor and should be killed

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>>2802392
>Channel name: The Peasant Pill
>Channel's content: Romanticizing the medieval period and sperging about trump and putin
>550 views
Very trustworthy and unbiased source on the matter, thanks!

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>>2802406
>Being born into serfdom won actually.

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>>2802408
trust the experts

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>>2802392
most obvious monarchy cope channel ever, even worse then that mentis wave ancap retard

peasants lived in small shitty houses with multiple people, had garbage pay. their work was very physical, and the fact they had more time off is a lie for the most part

sure there is issues with the current system rn but going back then is not better lol

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Castles are cool, knights are cool, the vikings where cool and there wasn't any blacks. Fuck you, you obsessed faggot and let me larp.

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>>2802424
Race is everything. Saying anything else is anti white

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>>2802392
this is like when ccp china bootlickers are faced with actually working in the coal mines

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>>2802431
Only thing it really beats is the early first Industrial Revolution.

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>Race is everything. Saying anything else is anti white

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>Race is everything. Saying anything else is anti white

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>>2802451
Ig Rome was kinda shitty too. Literally just the dark ages but they had more disposable labor (slaves).

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>>2802404
no, your work contributed to your local prince who did jack shit of using said profits and labor of helping the society

then that prince gave it to the king

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>>2802372
Not how feudalism worked btw
You're confusing it with absolutism

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>>2802433
>Castles are cool, knights are cool, the vikings where cool and there wasn't any blacks. Fuck you, you obsessed faggot and let me larp.
I agree with whoever said this

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>When were you conscripted, handed the bare minimum, and then thrown head-first into a sea of ten thousand enemy soldiers?
Meds, didn't happen

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>>2802475
Even in the big 'kraine this doesn't happen anymore 😹

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evendoe knights are cool, crossbows are cool, swords are cool, maces are cool, fighting mudslime turks is cool, pogroming jews is cool, hussite war wagons are cool

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I agree but some of your premises are not true or exaggerated.

>You were only expected to live 40 years AT MOST. Assuming you didn't accidentally step on a loose thorn one day and then suddenly you start rotting from the inside-out due to how dirty your outer skin was

No, once you passed the age of 5 you could live up to 60 or 70, the reason average life expectancy was so low was because half of children died before five years old (common in all preindustrial societies), which brings the statistic down.
>If you were poor and were even remotely smart there was a chance of you literally being murdered because it could be the devil trying to deceive the people, or something.
No?
>Most of the towns that did exist were literally ankle-deep in Horse shit and riddled with rats and flies due to there not being any concept of hygiene beyond it being a "status symbol of the upper-class"
True, but personal hygiene was definitely cared about, and you have to keep in mind only a small portion of the population lived in cities. Villages were clean.
>If war starts then you're probably going to get conscripted, given a spear at most, and then thrown at a wall of elite enemy cavalry, only to be mutilated and hacked up in the first 10 minutes of the battle
Lowly serfs which formed around 90% of the peasantry were almost never levied, because they were too poor to buy gear anyway and someone needed to farm the fields in an era in which agriculture was very low technology and food production required almost all of the population to work in the fields just to break even. Instead most commoner levies were drawn from town militias and peasant freeholders (also known as yeomen) who could actually buy or make the gear needed and were not as essential to the economy as serfs. Also it was rare for kings or nobles to give their soldiers gear, usually everyone brought whatever they could with a minimum set of gear set by the law (which is why those poor peasants weren't levied as they couldn't even meet that minimum)

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yeah but yurop was protected from many invaders that could have threathened the existence of many wypipol o algo
yea living standards were bad but many environmental factors also contributed to diz

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I will be debunking this after work today so expect a negrobump in like 7 hours

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>>2802483
>Sparing the Jews as "witnesses"

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<Da faith was stronger back then!
Da faith is stronger NOW lol

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why not both?

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>>2802475
I don't think that happened but something real shitty that did happen is as a conscript if you killed an enemy knight in battle due to chivalry your own side would kill you.
>>2802467
The system worked and it did exist for a reason albeit obviously we're better off now.

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>>2802489
if one of these retard monarchists went back then they would die in 5 minutes because of how weak their immune system would be since back then everything was super dirty

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>>2802503
it "worked" because peasants didn't have any means of getting rid of that system

they were very weary of who they allowed to have swords and crossbows

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>>2802503
No, you could kill enemy nobles, it's absurd to expect someone to refrain themselves in a life or death situation. But capturing was generally preferred, both for honor and for ransom.

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>>2802492
fuh you mean "environmental factors"

the environment has nothing to do with the fact that mfs would just die because some kind wanted to invaded ur land for no reason

so much for "muh faith "when u kill people that not only are similar to you, but have the same faith just because, idk

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personally if I lived in the Medieval era I'd live in North America and fish and smoke all day baby HEEEYA HEEYA HEEEYA HEEEYA HEEYA

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>>2802475
very much so happened lol

high risk high reward, given basic equipment, and if you survived the campaign you got a house/land o algo

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>>2802503
No way that happened
Also how the fuck would they find out who killed that random knight in battle
>>2802480
I was mobilised by zilionski and now going to bahmut chi shchos'
Good bye, pol

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shut the fuck up man

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>>2802532
HEYA HOYAAAAAAAAA

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niggles has the right idea

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>>2802550
>Tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung
HEEEEEEEEEYAAAAA HEEEEYA HEEEYA HEYA, HEYA HEYA HEYA HEYA
just saying this might be unironically preferable to living in medieval Europe

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>>2802513
It formed as a societal contract of serfs provided labor to the lord of the lord protected the serfs from raiders.

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>>2802558
>Living as wildlife
As free as it seems, I may have to pass on this one

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>>2802558
Depends on which band of Heya Hoya doe. Like I wouldn't want to be apart of a migratory tribe.

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>>2802563
slvt4bibisi would be a warrior post with an IQ of 120 and a kill count well past 20
>>2802566
Natives didn't live as wildlife, animals don't dig ditches to kill like 12 Buffalo at a time with stampedes

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>>2802588
*Warrior post
clearly I'd be some sort of Mongoloid

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>>2802588
>"Natives"
>Shows brown men with European medieval weaponry, wearing winged helmets (European Fantasy) while riding horses

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>>2802359 (OP)
The roman civilization mogged medieval europe but for some reason the fall of rome is actually a good thing because the heckin germanerino aryans were the ones destroying the pinnacle of civilization even doe they were the niggers of the antique era

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>>2802537
Ukroslaves lost
TCKGODS VVON

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Trve…

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>>2802632
Rome was literally just the dark ages doe with slavery.

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>>2802629
I was talking about slvt4bibisi being a hun

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>>2802670
How was rome at all "the dark ages"

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>Fuck you, you dumbass faggot faggot nigger nigger homosexual fucking commie jew! You're demoralizing me or something!

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>>2802730
It wasn't by information but by technology, practices and such. The transition from western Rome to the dark ages was a lot smoother than you would think.

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>>2802759
May i call you a faggoted retard

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Living in medieval times le good because reddit told me peasants only worked 150 days in a year or something

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Op is a faggot

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Up

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>>2802359 (OP)
>>2802493
Epic deboonking time

>>Peasants (AKA 99% of the population) Worked an upwards of 14 hours a day, dawn to dusk, doing intensive labor and only receiving enough to just barely get by.


This is at best misleading at at worst just wrong. If you were a peasant farmer, then yes you worked long hours, but so do modern farmers. A 14 hour day sucks but it's not literal torture. The type of labor is worth considering as well. The plight of the modern man is mostly that our work is useless. The vast majority of work we do contributes nothing to society and spiritually drains us. What makes the medieval era admirable to people is that no matter what job or role you played, it had a tangible role on society and benefitted your community. The people that like the medieval era would rather work long hours at a job that matters than work short hours at a meaningless job.nThere is also the fact that they worked less over all which I will get into later.

>>You were only expected to live 40 years AT MOST. Assuming you didn't accidentally step on a loose thorn one day and then suddenly you start rotting from the inside-out due to how dirty your outer skin was


My estimation of your credibility has plummeted upon hearing that you fell for this. Infant mortality rates were high, as well as the changes of children dying during childhood, but if you made it past that you were likely to live to about 70.

>>Most of the towns that did exist were literally ankle-deep in Horse shit and riddled with rats and flies due to there not being any concept of hygiene beyond it being a "status symbol of the upper-class"


The horse dung in the streets is really more an aspect of the Victorian Era than anything that happened during the Middle Ages. And the idea that nobody bathed or was hygienic is also something that came about as a result of the Industrial Revolution and people being crammed into urban environments.

>>If you were poor and were even remotely smart there was a chance of you literally being murdered because it could be the devil trying to deceive the people, or something.


I can't even begin to understand where you got this idea. If you were poor and smart you could work in a monastery, be a scribe, or you could become part of the clergy.

>>If war starts then you're probably going to get conscripted, given a spear at most, and then thrown at a wall of elite enemy cavalry, only to be mutilated and hacked up in the first 10 minutes of the battle


Good thing the idea of people dying in war is completely foreign to us now, huh?

><Da faith was stronger back then!


This is where I bring up the labor of the average worker in the Middle Ages. This is utterly foreign to us now, especially in America where we have about 4 holidays, but the lifestyle of a medieval Christian involved many feast days, holidays, and of course the Lord's Day. By and large, people did not work on these days. This is why it's largely true that peasants worked fewer days than us by such a massive amount. And I don't know why you would just brush this off anyway. The spiritual state of a people is absolutely necessary for the cohesion of a society, and it's why our society barely functions as it stands.

>Most "religious" people back then not only had never read a bible, but were probably too illiterate to even read one even if they were offered to


The Liturgy that medieval people attended includes a reading of the Bible every Sunday. Again, the fact that you know this little about Christianity really makes it impossible to take you seriously on this subject.

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><But da castles and da art!!!
>Your chances of being royalty back then were even slimmer than your chances of being born into a decently-paid working class White family in a Western country.

Missed the entire point award. Let me compare and contrast here. We would both agree that modern, brutality architecture is incredibly deleterious to society. But it's not bad because it's the buildings we live in. It's the buildings we walk by, see in our skyline, and ultimately associate with our society as a whole. For the same reasons, the beautiful architecture of castles, cathedrals and churches were good for society when we still built them.

>And can you guess who built all the castles and the art? I'll let you figure that one out. Believe me, you would NOT be one of them.


Do you prefer your art to be largely commissioned by the Church or Royalty like in the Middle Ages, or Satan worshipping pedophilic Jews like we do now? Answer honestly!

><Those are actually misconceptions and never actually happened! Da medieval period was clean and good!

>Prove it. We have tens of thousands of writings from the era showing how abysmal it was. Prove that it wasn't.

You can't just assert that you have all of these sources without any kind of sourcing or reasoning.

><Well it was better then da modern era!


This is just repeating my main point so I don't feel the need to refute.

><Fuck you, you dumbass faggot faggot nigger nigger homosexual fucking commie jew! You're demoralizing me or something!


I don't say this

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selfish bump

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>>2802359 (OP)
the middle ages were about small states, which was awesome and unique actually

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>>2804402
create a folder library on your pc with links, snips, and texts

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>>2804518
I do have a folder on my PC with some writing but I haven't been using my 'puter much lately

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>>2804529
I should do this once I install Linux on this laptop

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>>2804530
try steam os, to come out soon

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I do tend to get very autistic with my file organization

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>>2804532
make 10 folders for categories right now

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>>2804530
Are you new to linux?

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>>You were only expected to live 40 years AT MOST. Assuming you didn't accidentally step on a loose thorn one day and then suddenly you start rotting from the inside-out due to how dirty your outer skin was
This has been debunked btw

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>>2804537
>>2804532
thoughts on the coming steam OS?
I think gaben saved us from microsoft

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>>2802383
>I would rather be sodomized and murdered than live in relative luxury
Retard take
>>2802387
>Shitting yourself to death is gooder because less browns in mi contri senor
Retard take
>>2802392
>communal living
Weird way to say 0 privacy and the fact they couldn't afford individual housing.
>4 hours
If man had worked 4 hours forever, we'd probably not have discovered the modern automobile by 2000 because more hours is more productivity to make our lives better.
Retard take.
>>2802404
Your menial farm labor contributed to your society?
Then blacks get reparations LOL
No it didn't
Retard take
>>2802433
>see none of those cool things and die in infancy
Welcome to pre-industrial life fag
>>2802475
Retard take
>>2802483
>Outdated shit is cool
>>2802492
The environment is the same unless you want me to believe building factories and shit on useless grassland or forests ruined da wezt
>>2802496
True. Most did not have a bible in the early church, and the industrial revolution brought them to millions.
>>2802503
>the system worked
Little scientific or technological progress and stagnant economic growth = worked
Retard take
>>2802730
Little growth, mass slavery, abortions, centralization of power and knowledge soon lost to retardation.
Retard take.
>>2804514
Small states are good, but for the reason you can travel and vote with your feet if you don't like them. They only had small states from warring families (authoritarian) defeating this purpose. Retard take.

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>>2804544
switzerland is a small state that takes care of itself and is outside of the EU and is the most peaceful "state" in europe.

you're a retard for not believing in small states or peace

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>>2804548
>Small states are good
<You're a retard for not believing in small states or peace
I didn't know they stacked stupid this high

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>>2804549
you are not intelligent, you will never be intelligent… you can't convince me or others that you are a learned man…

small states are optimum for peace btw.

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You named wars. What does that have to do at all with small states.
You named switzerland. They succeeeded through free market capitalism, smart banking and robust defence industry. They are a successful small nation. What exactly are you proving to somebody who also believes small states are good

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>>2804537
I used Linux Mint for about 3 years, and then switched to Manjaro and had used that for about a year. I tried to use Arch but for some reason it just didn't work on my old laptop. I haven't gotten around to making the switch on my new laptop because I don't really use it for anything right now.

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2804554
you're not intelligent enough to understand what small state division has to do as a preventative of large-scale wars
i am sorry but you really are pic rel in your post

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>>2804544
>Uhh living in a tightly-knit cohesive society is bad because I uhhhh need my privacy to goon to 'p yeah

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>>2804539
I don't game. This sounds like an okay development, the option to have a dedicated machine for solely gaming with Steam and thereby giving them alone your data instead of Steam and Microsoft both.

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>>2804563
why are you saying that steam os is only good for gaming?

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>>2804563
do yuo want to take your statement back?

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>>2804562
you can live in a tight knit cohesive society with your own house
privacy isn't for 'p, the weather or your dog, it's for opinions outside the overton window

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>>2804571
what if he wants good neighbors that believe in his beliefs 100 blocks over, not just his own house? why are you trying to divide him?

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>>2804562
i have never heard of a shill, such as this one >>2804571 who actively promotes complete isolation of you and your loved ones fromt he rest of society.

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>>2804573
maybe just move there
communal living doesn't remove scarcity in space, if you live in 1 big hotel together that doesn't change the fact your friend 100 blocks over will also live in a seperate hotel unless you just make 1 huge apartment block to house everybody lol

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>>2804558
Arch is more high maintenance than the other distros you listed. Mint is good, as are Debian and Zorin. I prefer an xfce environment.

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>>2804574
Anywhere more than 10 ft from society = isolation

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>>2804577
I used i3 when I switched to Manjaro. Admittedly I was just being a hipster when I decided on it, but I do think it was rewarding to learn and get used to.

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>>2802359 (OP)
I live exactly like this description in 2026 doe

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>>2804567
I would only use it for that purpose considering it's coming from a proprietary software company that collects extensive amounts of data from users of its service.
>>2804569
no

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>>2804587
then you are a fool who thinks steam os is only for gaming?

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>>2804584
so now that we've established that the only one speaking with facts to you in a mormon, got any questions about steam os, that you can google for yourself any time?

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People these days have an inaccurate reddit description of what life was like in most places in most times during the medieval period. Not to say it was a walk in the park or le good or anything, but it's just as moronic to pretend that every single moment was the War of the Roses but with three feet of plague diarrhea on the floor

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>>2804589
>>2804590
You've been trolling; you got me.

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>>2804595
no, ive been sharing videos about rhe upcoming steam os for pc the whole time for a while, you decided not to investigate, also Valve/Steam saved gamers from expensive gaming/publishing by Sierra… Valve's steam became the publisher and unleashed gamer potential, modern gaming is entirely Valve's work… And I'm glad that they decided to go further and work on a real OS.

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>>2804594
This guy gets it. Not to mention that a lot of misconceptions and inaccuracies concerning the Middle Ages that still float around our collective subconscious are the result of an anti-Catholic propaganda campaign mostly during the Victorian Era.

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>>>2804594
>This guy gets it. Not to mention that a lot of misconceptions and inaccuracies concerning the Middle Ages that still float around our collective subconscious are the result of an anti-Catholic propaganda campaign mostly during the Victorian Era.

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>>2802359 (OP)
the craziest thing is that americans actually view the medieval aera this way

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PENNSYLAVNIAN TRUTH NUKE

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>>2802359 (OP)
geg christkikes really do this

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>>2804599
why is this closet faggot gegbvll in this thread when it was made to make fun of people like you GEG

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>>2804400
Awesomesauce reboooonking timerino

>>>Peasants (AKA 99% of the population) Worked an upwards of 14 hours a day, dawn to dusk, doing intensive labor and only receiving enough to just barely get by.

>
>This is at best misleading at at worst just wrong. If you were a peasant farmer, then yes you worked long hours, but so do modern farmers. A 14 hour day sucks but it's not literal torture. The type of labor is worth considering as well. The plight of the modern man is mostly that our work is useless. The vast majority of work we do contributes nothing to society and spiritually drains us. What makes the medieval era admirable to people is that no matter what job or role you played, it had a tangible role on society and benefitted your community. The people that like the medieval era would rather work long hours at a job that matters than work short hours at a meaningless job.nThere is also the fact that they worked less over all which I will get into later.

I think you would rather type shit on a computer than run around a gigantic ox trying to make it plow a huge field in the correct directiom while it can take your head off anytime it wants to. I think youre overstating the psychological aspect.
>
>>>You were only expected to live 40 years AT MOST. Assuming you didn't accidentally step on a loose thorn one day and then suddenly you start rotting from the inside-out due to how dirty your outer skin was
>
>My estimation of your credibility has plummeted upon hearing that you fell for this. Infant mortality rates were high, as well as the changes of children dying during childhood, but if you made it past that you were likely to live to about 70.
>

This is actually true.


>>>Most of the towns that did exist were literally ankle-deep in Horse shit and riddled with rats and flies due to there not being any concept of hygiene beyond it being a "status symbol of the upper-class"

>
>The horse dung in the streets is really more an aspect of the Victorian Era than anything that happened during the Middle Ages. And the idea that nobody bathed or was hygienic is also something that came about as a result of the Industrial Revolution and people being crammed into urban environments.
>

Actually this is false. Medieval peasants did not bathe at all both because it was very cold in europe and they could just freeze and because they thought it was unchristian, which is true and i have no clue where anyone got that from.

>>>If you were poor and were even remotely smart there was a chance of you literally being murdered because it could be the devil trying to deceive the people, or something.

>
>I can't even begin to understand where you got this idea. If you were poor and smart you could work in a monastery, be a scribe, or you could become part of the clergy.
>

You're right on this. Witch hunting was only ever common in protestant areas during the 1500 and 1600s.


>>>If war starts then you're probably going to get conscripted, given a spear at most, and then thrown at a wall of elite enemy cavalry, only to be mutilated and hacked up in the first 10 minutes of the battle

>
>Good thing the idea of people dying in war is completely foreign to us now, huh?
>

Thank God you were born into the Mutted States so that conscription for you just means selecting dots on the screen to blow up.

>><Da faith was stronger back then!

>
>This is where I bring up the labor of the average worker in the Middle Ages. This is utterly foreign to us now, especially in America where we have about 4 holidays, but the lifestyle of a medieval Christian involved many feast days, holidays, and of course the Lord's Day. By and large, people did not work on these days. This is why it's largely true that peasants worked fewer days than us by such a massive amount. And I don't know why you would just brush this off anyway. The spiritual state of a people is absolutely necessary for the cohesion of a society, and it's why our society barely functions as it stands.
>

This is hardly true. It sounds good but if any farmer actually tried to live like this their fields would die out completely. Even now with modern pesticides. Just imagine how it was back then with constant threats of pests and diseases just eating your grain.

>>Most "religious" people back then not only had never read a bible, but were probably too illiterate to even read one even if they were offered to

>
>The Liturgy that medieval people attended includes a reading of the Bible every Sunday. Again, the fact that you know this little about Christianity really makes it impossible to take you seriously on this subject.

This is true.

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>>2804840
I did not mean that bathing is unchristian just that it was the overall consensus at that time. I have no clue where anyone got that from.

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Reboooooonking 2

>><But da castles and da art!!!

>>Your chances of being royalty back then were even slimmer than your chances of being born into a decently-paid working class White family in a Western country.
>
>Missed the entire point award. Let me compare and contrast here. We would both agree that modern, brutality architecture is incredibly deleterious to society. But it's not bad because it's the buildings we live in. It's the buildings we walk by, see in our skyline, and ultimately associate with our society as a whole. For the same reasons, the beautiful architecture of castles, cathedrals and churches were good for society when we still built them.

I think youre too obsessed with superficial shit. I dont have anything against brutalist architecture in fact putting efficiency before looking cool is a good thing.
>
>>And can you guess who built all the castles and the art? I'll let you figure that one out. Believe me, you would NOT be one of them.
>
>Do you prefer your art to be largely commissioned by the Church or Royalty like in the Middle Ages, or Satan worshipping pedophilic Jews like we do now? Answer honestly!

I dont know what his point was here or what your point is here.

>

>><Those are actually misconceptions and never actually happened! Da medieval period was clean and good!
>>Prove it. We have tens of thousands of writings from the era showing how abysmal it was. Prove that it wasn't.
>
>You can't just assert that you have all of these sources without any kind of sourcing or reasoning.
>

Do you know how to use a web browser?


>><Well it was better then da modern era!

>
>This is just repeating my main point so I don't feel the need to refute.
>
?
>><Fuck you, you dumbass faggot faggot nigger nigger homosexual fucking commie jew! You're demoralizing me or something!
>
>I don't say this.

You just said this but without the swearing and buzzwords.

>>2804400
Also, i dont know how you can underestimate that 70% of children died before 5. Imagine having 10 kids and having to bury 7 of them in a hole in the backyard and then having to continue working as normal, and then telling them that 7 of their brothers and sisters just died and that theyre buried in the backyard. Youre right about the average lifespan being affected by child deaths but you seem to completely forget about the child deaths.

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Minorth please respond

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>>2804857
>but muh child deaths
it was christian, white and had high birth rates
all that matters chud!

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Romanticization of the stone age won doe

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kangz n' sheeeit

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>>2804868
>christgeg mocking himself
……

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>>2804868
But no actual population growth.

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>>2804879
It's all just so tiresome

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>>2804879
obsessed fire and brimstone
>>2804882
regardless, the point that was being made is that, yes medieval period was not ideal nor easy, but it was better than what we have now, even if we are materially much better off now

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>>2804886
I think there is a middle ground here. From the middle ages which were horrible, conditions at least improved with technological progress. Now, things are so good that they will soon start getting worse and the world is in such a position that it may never get better again. The white/european race will be extinct by 2150 if nothing changes.

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And i am not saying that the roman empire was any better or that people in it lived in better conditions than the middle ages. It was the same shit.

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>>2804886
when are you coming to try and burn me alive christsissy? if you will ever try to i will just move to Constantinople because no orthocuck is ever setting foot in that place ever again GEG

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>>2804897
Man was made to labor and toil and this always worries me. Because if you take away the toil, man becomes a degenerate and dies off; but then none really wants to live in those conditions, so it's either stagnation or death. Very few people are capable of building virtue, to be able to stay pure and disciplined despite all the automation and the like.

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>stepping on a loose thorn and rotting from the inside

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>>2804903
flood levels of leakage geg

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>>2804910
yeah because saying someone should be burned alive for criticizing christgeggery totally isn't leakage GEG

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>>2804914
No, that is simply a statement of fact

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>>2804917
what's the last time christcucks burned someone alive for criticizing christgeggery then? only shows how weak your dnb meme cult is geg

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>>2804903
Nigger there's literally orthodox patriarch residing there
Failbait or retardation?

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All of this is true but I hate the 2020s

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Can you pepo negrobump this thread so MNOrthodox responds

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>>2804914
Meds and your science-believing bvll's BJC

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>>2804927
>orthocucks need to ask their mudslime bvlls for permission to be in their own religious capital

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>>2804934
I'm not orthodox doe

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>>2804950
i was talking about the patriarch ukrozogwarrior retard

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>>2804932
Orthoniggers are very stupid so he won't respond

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>>2804958
spic tradcath conquistador fact

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>>2804954
I meant that MNOrthodox is sleeping and so issa failbait

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being ukrozogwarrior retard

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>>2804959
Your leakage over me is so strong it's spreading to other threads

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>>2804960
no he's just ignoring the thread now because i called him out as being a closet faggot

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>>2804963
evendoe i agreed with you
holy marge

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>>2804964
Even doe xhe's a valid pooner HISA

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Da faith was stronger back then!
But da castles and da art!!!
Those are actually misconceptions and never actually happened! Da medieval period was clean and good!
Well it was better then da modern era!
Fuck you, you dumbass faggot faggot nigger nigger homosexual fucking commie jew! You're demoralizing me or something!

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The Medieval period does indeed have a very polarizing reputation amongst the average Tom, Dick and Harry who doesn't actively study history for a living.
People in this whole debate either belong to "Ye Good Olde Days" camp who believe it's end only lead to social and cultural decline, or they belong to the "Dung Ages" camp and think it was the single most backwards, regressive, superstitious and generally miserable epoch in all of human history.
Obviously I don't think I need to tell you that either viewpoint is entirely accurate and captures the nuances of an almost 1000-year old time period that looked very different depending on what part of the world you lived in at any point during the period.

With that said, Feudalism was indeed a fucking retarded system and the idea of "divine right of kings" even moreso. Lack of modern medicine and brutal judicial punishments weren't fun either.

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>>2804539
you don't need *the* steam os to save you from micro$oft, any linux distro works

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I thought we all knew this

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>>2805046
Apparently not.

Also to clear things up, when I reference being murdered for being "too smart" i'm referring to the various with trials throughout europe. Which started in the late Medieval period and went onwards until afterwards, however I still included them.

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>>2805387
>with trials
ESLGODS won
Witch trials*

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>>2805387
>>2805389
It's just escapism brah

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>>2802399

the great heathen army didn't kidnap in large majorities kek they just moved around britain as a band of 100-200 people sacking villages for their supplies

Also yes i'd get to live around white people

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its just like my favorite video game

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>>2805389
Nigger faggot bitch trials**

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No Epstein files in medieval Europe. Just saying.

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Negrobump

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>>2802359 (OP)
What if I'm upper class and would convert in those days to being a noble

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>>2807132
You couldnt. There was no upper class youre either a peasant or a noble hereditarily. You could be a merchant in a city which was the proto burgeoise. But you wouldnt own land.

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>>2802359 (OP)
This is extreme though, and this was conceived in your imagination

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Both sides make great points. The Medieval period wasn't the epitome of human civilisation like some would have it nor was it literal hell. I think it's reasonable to conclude that despite the kikery of this era we're living in better times. But all this being said much of the people who romanticise the medieval period are doing so to cope (not in an insulting sense) with the current depressing state of things (escapism like another guy said) and it would be mean to go after them.

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I can't help but suspect a lot of medieval glorification comes from Christians and monarchists feeling as though failing to defend the era would be failure to defend their faith and their governing preferences. It's certainly true that some monumental scientific and artistic achievements came out of the era, but regardless it was an objectively worse period going by such metrics when compared to classical antiquity before it and the renaissance proceeding it.

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>>2810573
I neglected to mention the humanities.

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>>2804400
OP hasn't refuted this Trvke

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>>2810573
Have you read the City of God by Saint Augustine of Hippo? It might interest you.

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>>2810716
I'm a bit upset that my wall of text has yet gone un-responded to



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