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Nu experiment: Not going to be pinning hangout threads anymore. >>69675


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Dialectics thread, Ludwig Wittgenstein Edition

Meaning is interconnected between mutual understanding on what words entail, and are not reducible to foundationalist explanations it seems. Languages cannot be created privately as constructed words corresponding to a sensory experience can only be verified in a fallible framework, being memory. With no external standard on what a word means, such a constructed word cannot be verified with confidence.

Participate in language games, schizopost, 'valipost, etc.
No goonslop. I put in effort to find these images, and so will you.
Do not post blatant philosophically illiterate leftist midwittery or sincere excuses against moral responsibility.
Conversation and image posts doesn't not have to unrelated to thread theme NAND thread theme, with the "NAND" being referred only in the negation of what it would be normally used.
Previous thread: >>39465

Have fun!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epzlGsgbVS8[Embed] still listening to this
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i need motivation ugh
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>>53913
try to go for a run or use a rowing machine
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also i made some shitty args cuz meathood initiated dial with me in the server

his view is that "sexual behavior does not exist" and this is what i said during the convo. i was incredibly tired and was crying over the trent shit while writing this so its def not the best

ok so i was going too complex with this @"gud eye mayte" lookin ahh (thats his meme name in the server, im not doxxing him or anything)
i needa step back a lil
this is easier to continue the dialectic with:

"Sexual behavior" is literally "what do you have sex with?" This is used to describe things, not to assert some ontology, its a generalization in the sense of causality. A green leaf changes colors over time from the natural halt of chlorophyll production. Does this green color still have meaning? Yes, it does. Does it exist? Not necessarily as wavelengths are subject to fuzzy logics which the subjective experience is entirely responsible for.
the term "sex" presumes an action being performed between two or more organisms, so any form of masturbation does not apply here.
in many areas it is kinda useless bc it comes down to sexual preferences, but gay vs. straight is an important one in the Christian deontology. Are you born under a certain sexual behavior? No because this is something that has to acclimate over time, that is a corequisite of maturation. However, one is born with a predisposition/likelihood, this is based in genetics. The blank slate is misleading because of twin studies which conclude that the stimuli one consumes over time is only part of the story: the differences in character of fraternal twins vs. identical twins carry heavy weight here as it draws a connection between genetics and who you actually are. Just look up basic studies on these things. This is also substantiated by how many mental conditions such as depression are caused by hormonal conditions. Your genetics are the basis for protein production which entails the production of all internal compounds (that being, a material which the body itself synthesizes; not directly consumed)
So, can this behavior still change over time? Potentially, but it's very difficult based off how adult psychology functions.

And going back to my point on your view collapsing all sexual attractions into equivalency, I rly feel like your view here puts sexual immorality and sexual morality together, which is a definitional (specifically deontic) collapse; the term of morality within Christian sexual ethics completely loses meaning here. If there is no such thing as "sexual behavior" then there is not a way to differentiate these things which puts them together.

i might have to refine a lil more later. i still cannot track right now as i only slept for 4 hours, i feel like im gonna vomit, and im crying over something unrelated. 

@"gud eye mayte" lookin ahh part two but ts isnt as important, its just addressing your pointing out of an alleged presumption from me
I don't presume these things to be exactly necessary. On a pedantic point, the fundamental laws of physics have to be caused by complete randomness (at least when we bind to what can be empirically explained), otherwise they are brute facts that would apply universally which is not the case since extremely small systems are capable of violating the second law of thermo. So, then these things arise from some randomness which refutes determinism in a sense, but it doesn't entail much actual meaning becaue it does not at all suggest free will.
Furthermore, if I, being a professing Christian, presume that free will is real and ontologically influential, then I accept the prospect of one having the ability to choose not to act on feelings they have within their body. 
Anyways, thank you for being willing to talk to me about this stuff, I love conversing with other intelligent people in an attempt to come to a truth, but most people are dishonest and merely care about rhetoric. This is why @Autistic yellow-man fagvali will always be my figurative pookie. 
anyways im probably gonna sleep again. im at about 15% power right now
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if trent doesnt say anything to me within the next few weeks imma unadd him, kick him, and leave his servers and say in DMs "its clear you dont see me as a friend anymore so imma remove myself for you"
>>53914
perhaps i could get a little physically active but i am incredibly tired as i slept for, like, 4 hours last night or something like that
i think the last time i got that little of sleep was the night before my practical exam on october 16th
dialetrics
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>>53917
that's a lot of academic context that I won't exactly recall right away, but with your definition of sexual behavior, you can't condemn a lot of furry fetishes, which are themed after innocuous things by virtue of sexual ethics, which is unintuitive, not even masturbation. you can only advocate for a consequentialistic position. I wonder what are the logical consequences of subjecting what constitutes as sexual behavior into fuzziness
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>>53921
dielectrics
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>>53923
extensions can be made to condemn things outside of simply relying on the definition of sexual behavior
or... maybe i could add "and how it is performed" into the mix
idk gng ts was some incredibly shitty stuff imo i could do 100x better but i aint got the mindset rn

>>53924
i blame God or something
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>>53925
I no understand da trilemma
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>>53926
i dont mean it as arbitrarily adding it in
ugh i hate mind-bending things into oblivion
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>>53928
what do you exactly mean by this?
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>>53929
like these things such as what sexual behavior is are so obvious but people that disagree pmo sb with the gender-bending logic and shiz. im js mad abt everything rn

also oml braiman just gave me the image :(
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>>53930
oh wait yeah, furries are usually so desensitized on what constitutes as sexual
>>53931
>sexualize everything
>why do parents not want their kids around us?
>turn into pedophiles
>more kids saar! we need people to 'ape because we have surpassed the desires in life that are satiable and we no longer care about muh morality
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>>53933
>>>53931
>>sexualize everything
>>why do parents not want their kids around us?
>>turn into pedophiles
>>more kids saar! we need people to 'ape because we have surpassed the desires in life that are satiable and we no longer care about muh morality
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>>53931
i'm a heccin prude btw
>>53933
I think that outside of the extremes, a lack of care for morality is entirely based in hedonism. it is natural for one to care about the things around them that have feelings, and if you have natural desires, they have a natural solution usually. however, if one is to let these desires get out of control, they can surpass permissibility as in they are harmful to you or other people. it is then no longer possible to achieve satisfaction without hurting others. people generally care more about themselves so this just leads to people losing care abt morals.
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>>53934
>promote degeneracy
>birth rate declines
>STDs spread
>children get brought in
>troons 'ape them
>both the troons and the traumatized children kill themselves
>what did we do wrong?
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>>53936
>>53937
which is why I believe that it is immoral to let people believe in what they want! [I have yet to investigate the issue of doxastic wrongdoing as a deontic principle] God knows what will happen when the populace adopts an incorrect worldview; when we want the better for other people, they do nothing but twist our words to "hate speech," despite that they either misunderstand on what altruism entails by enabling unhealthy behaviors, or flat out run away from them under the name of induvidualism.
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>>53938
>which is why I believe that it is immoral to let people believe in what they want!
how extreme do you go with this view. a belief is not a belief if its forced upon you and the only alternative is letting them have autonomy
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meow
>>53939
I guess at a first glance, I would not lash out at a transgender person, but I find myself to be more strict than the average person. It reminds me of the virtuous pagan issue, looking at the casualty behind most ethical belief systems in people, they are usually created as a response to environmental situations, like how I have an anti hedonist ethical perspective as a consequence of diminished executive function from autism. the main way to will yourself to adopting different propositions is to engage in metacognition in seeing what the consequences of the underlying principles of your behavioral patterns are. I guess as a political praxis, I would place dogmatic guardrails in what people say like how the Nicene Creed forces Christians to adhere to a set of propositions, which does come off as illiberal. It's hard to balance wanting to have a united and cohesive culture while also preserving intellectual freedom, which are contradictory things I strongly believe in. If I were to ask myself what I would do to a satanist if I had a great amount of political power over him, I would just formulate argument against his position. Thinking about it, I would have the education system teach Christian values, with books under incorrect worldviews either be banned or be less accessible. I would not outright ban Sartre's works, but something like "The Ethical Slut," which is about how to have polyamorous people live their lives would have to go.
At this rate, I am approaching the idea that it is the government's responsibility to regulate the culture of our populace while trying not to restrict too much intellectual freedom
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>>53948
ohnono not making ts political :(
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reciprocity is dying in this culture encouraging self interest over alturism
so many find themselves in this hole without realizing it (cough cough)
>>53949
uhhhhhh but the way my proposition is set up just comes off as more practical than abstract
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>>53951
my reading comprehension went to zero
what about doxastic wrongdoing as a deontic principle? I cannot really think of an argument
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>>53953
explain a little further
what exactly are we tryna argue in favor of here
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>>53954
"is it immoral to believe an incorrect ethical proposition alone?"
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it's presupposed in the affirmative in every denominational discussion
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>>53955
well ethical principles are generally not right or wrong unless we assume God but then it goes into theology
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>>53956
that needs theological justification then
>>53957
almost every ethical discussion automatically becomes theological
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>>53959
probably because theism is the majority and heavily pushes ethics durrr
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god damn in this close to just unadding trent and everything
i cant get this shit off my mind
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>god damn in this close to just unadding trent and everything
>i cant get this shit off my mind
>>53961
we can only argue whether action x is a subset of y, being mutually accepted as immoral rather than whether y is immoral or not.
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>>53964
what is the purpose of morality/ethics
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why are my views going to the dark side
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>>53966
Did you pray today?
Level up your prayer
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>>53965
uhh to glorify God. we are approaching the arbitrariness problem of moral reaism
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*realism
past me would have said to achieve your purpose, with its quality evaluated on how much subjective sense of fulfillment it brings.
>>53967
im listening to worship music rn but it isnt helping
>>53968
the purlose of ethics itself in a logical vacuum, separated from everything else, is for human survival, livelihood, and symbiosis.
this doesnt require a constant truth value, but Kant is correct in that this is objective and created by rational beings because a "goal" requires perception and rationale.
the term "immoral" doesnt entail any real meaning unless you want to equivocate the term with its purpose.
the term either derives meaning from God, us, or both
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well i dont know about objective, but it is definitely justified sufficiently, including deontology my beloved
>>53972
ethics seems to be derived from our relationship with God. with the trilemma in mind, our chain of reasoning on the justification of good must end on some foundation.
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>>53974
the foundation in the secular presupp is my definition, which is presumed to be desirable (moral ≠ desirable per my positive deontic collapse argument and other niggerblabble points)
then theres other people that adhere to antinatalism and whatever, but they would still hold to symbiosis and livelihood unless they think all life is bad, then ethics just doesnt exist bc theres no rational being to make ethical assertions
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>>53975
never ask an antinatalist their ethical foundations
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>>53976
they still think that things which are currently alive deserve morality
they only have that one proposition i their ethics which is only 1/3rd of my definition
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>>53977
by survival, i mean holistic continuation of a species
livelihood is the right to live if you are indeed alive
and to not like be subjugated to unnecessary harm/sufferring
>>53977
yes, they see those alive to be treated well. the only normative ethical framework that I can think of that is compatible with antinatalism is utillitarianism.
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>>53980
i guess
cuz things like deontology are for a whole rather than a particular altho it could still apply to a degree
I was a virtue ethicist 3 years ago, and I act as if I still am.
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>>53983
Vufio 💔
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>>53984
crazy
does it bother u at all when im yapping about ppl that are pissing me off like trent or nah
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snca above and below
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>>53987
not really
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seca left and right
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>snca above and below
snca forwards and backwards
>>53988
either a schizo or acerdius trolling
>>53989
alr alr
>>53990
snca diagonally and horizontally
snca clockwise and counter clockwise
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I got the Kedamono nameroll
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snca ana and kata
>>53995
Wholesome! Sweet little autist gets his favourite character in nameroll!
aaaaaaaa
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snca space and time
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>>53998
wonderful meme
snca in the 4th and 5th dimension
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>>53999
a priori axioms
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>>54002
snca a priori and posteriori
>>54001
>infinite dimensions
snca minecraft and fortnite
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snca in this universe and beyond
i think lachgoy vvon
>>54005
snca grow a garden and steal a brainrot
I guess it is unsurprising that vufio believed in virtue ethics since he is a catholic
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>>54010
what level of consciousness do you think he is at rn
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6 when its convenient for him and 3 when he is at the disadvantage
>>54012
El Numero cinco
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>>53989
im getting over the trent thing i think
i guess there are some upsides to it being easy for me to stop caring about someone geg
but at any rate, i can easily forget abt him and if he doesnt say anything for a while the ill just drop him completely
>>54016
possibly
during our fights he doesnt even make it past three tho
Replies: >>54022
such mindlessness that i cant even fucking bother 💔
and he said hes about as intelligent as ecmac
if vufio is a +3sd then the world has been running on pure luck
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>>54019
I think he is rebelling against social norms in his perspective, thinking that our views falter in the issue of femboys.
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>>54021
WHAT
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how's marty?
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>>54024
hes been doing great
it's hard to imagine him being in bad faith unlike what you seem to describe vufio
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>>54023
yea his bitch ass said that once and i couldnt help but laugh
>>54028
yea no marty is not at all bad faith
>>54022
he kinda died down on the femboy stuff but he hates me for having ski squire in my server
he said "youve changed for tbe worse" all because i dont wanna ban someone he doesnt like
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>>54031
weird
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>>54032
btw i subbed to ur main yt acc with the channel ill be using to make vids in the near future
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also notice how i'm at least indirectly responsible for bringing in people like aureos, [formerly] papir, and marty to our circle; you can't help but notice
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>>54034
yea
>>54033
I want to delete it
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>>54036
are u gonna make a new yt acc
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>>54037
Yes
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>>54038
when
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>>54039
uhhhh after this break hopefully
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>>54040
why not now tho
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>>54041
I should get my videos on preservetube first
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>>54042
whats the purpose of archiving your videos
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most of them are niggerblabble when u were like 10
preservetube does not show information relating to my opsec
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>>54043
for the funny, I am curious to see how I changed
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>>54045
but why preserve them istead of deleting all of them
>>54046
ok ig
are u gonna make a new dercord acc to or keep the one u have
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>>54049
I keep
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>>54050
and ur new yt will be the same as ur cord tag?
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>>54051
probably the same
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>>54052
we needa find other based presbypilled philoCHADs to form a squad
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posting on the avfoo makes me feel watched by the sharty
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>>54054
Meds
>>54054
marge
>>54053
the server tag I put on has a lot of presbyterians, but you cannot enter since it is restricted to mainlines only
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>>54058
wdym by that
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>>54058
I'm not really active there, but I want to
>>54059
it's the reconquista server by redeemed zoomer where people try to bring back theological orthodoxy into mainline churches
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>>54064
ah
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>>54065
also noticed jaredios and khanbluegual was in your server
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>>54068
yes they are
jared is going through a very hard time rn
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>>54068
khan is autistic if that matters
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>>54072
hes cool
not as shitty of a human being as other antifurs
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>>54073
swaror:
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>>54074
swar can just khs lowkey
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most braindead +2sd on the planet
>>54075
top 10 neuroticism
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>>54074
aryan that got his account terminated not too long ago
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>>54078
hes been nished like 15 times across all his socials
>>54077
he is an insult to intellectuals
>>54071
is he ok with his issues being known? I just know that he is that person who makes exposal documents of vorefag furries who epi children.
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>>54082
hes being very open about it to others so ill just say that hes been feeling extremely gay since last month but ion wanna get into detail cuz this shit is lowkey wild
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>>54088
nigga is having a troon out
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>>54090
i dont think so
he is adamantly against that stuff
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>>54088
I'm guessing that he is suffering the consequences of constant exposure to the content that these people he investigates. he is conditioning himself to suffer disordered impulses corresponding to the targets of his mission
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>>54092
I think he meant feelings of dysphoria
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>>54093
i think so
>>54094
i know that. i have no evidence to believe that to be the case
>>54093
geg, cared fan too much
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>>54100
I wish we can all dismiss furslop as snca, but someone out there should go out and save the groomed from the groomers
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>>54101
someone needs to be strong mentally to do that
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>>54103
certainly something i'm not interested in. I don't want to see avali being subjected to coaly themes any further
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High functioning autemit
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>>54130
shit avali cares about
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>>54131
saca
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>>54132
i made a new discord account btw which i might migrate to
i wanna get away from certain ppl completely
... and maybe ill name myself smth other than nveot idk
that name goes hard cuz its short but eh
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i cant add u on it so im letting u know
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>>54133
ok
>>54134
for what reason?
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>>54136
well first to have an alt but second to get away from ppl like vufio and possibly trent too if he never says anything to me
and idk about paper. hes a decent guy but idk man.
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>>54137
ok, this implies you abandoning your current server if you abandon your current acc
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>>54138
i mean maybe
the server is already dead lol
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ik i do this all the fucking time and im sorry
>>54139
the server died this quickly?
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>>54141
yea lol
not as quick as le cool server tho
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what is this nophono cord drama
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>>54142
probably because I can't be active there as often, I thought people like marty and aureos could maintain the server with dialectic
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>>54143
a couple snca fake friends
>>54144
theyre not rly that active
noone is very active there geg
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>>54146
oof
anyways imma think of a new alias lol
ok i made a 7 letter alias thats kinda just some random made up word like yours and it starts with a
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>>54149
cool
https://philarchive.org/rec/BASDW
look at this paper about doxastic wrongdoing
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>>54150
will investigate when im not tired asl
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1 step closer to President of the US.
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>>54156
please speed i need this
>>54156
firework in the white house!
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>>54158
FIRST STREAM IN THE WHITE HOUSE
DEPORTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
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>>54159
i wonder how that would look like geg
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>>54160
Bro gonna be in a suit with ICE live streaming himself deporting illegals and say "BARK NIGGA BARK YOU ILLEGAL NIGGER!" and then sometimes he'll do challenges like "WE GOT A MEXICAN! IF YOU DO A BACKFLIP ON STREAM WE'LL LET YOU STAY"
"Nah chat he failed the backflip, BACK TO MEXICO!"
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>>54150
can i transfer ownership of my server to your acc so its not deleted
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>>54162
yes
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>>54161
would vote for him if i was american
>>54163
le deeds have been done
anyways imma sleep now
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bye!
>>54168
gn
PCUSA - People Care United Shit About
ARPC - About Raisin People Care
ECO - Care Order of Everyphono People
EPC - Everyphono People Care 
OPC - Orthodox People Care
PCA - People Care About
RPCNA - Raisin People Care Nophono About
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>>54243
holy shit you stayed up late
btw im back on that account
i had clarity after getting some rest and trent added me back and wanted to talk so hopefully everything will be ok
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>>54281
yay!
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sharty /pol/ having something other than dnb and nudity for once
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>>54292
im falangist but bruh
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>>54295
funny politics; what do you believe in?
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>>54303
this o algo
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>>54306
hello braiman
>>54295
what is this 💔
>>54303
i found an argument against theism

Definitions:
R: Ultimate sufficient reason for why U exists
U: Universe
USR: Ultimate sufficient reason that fully explains why the U exists.
Argument:
P1: It is possible that there exists an R such that it guarantees U.
P2: R necessarily obtains.
C: Thus, U is necessary.

Note: To deny P1, you will have to show that there is something Incoherent or Contradictory within the notion of R guaranteeing U. As there is nothing Contradictory within the concept of R; thus, P1 can't be denied.

Therefore, to deny C, P2 must be denied.
P1: Not P2 (implication of rejecting P2)
P2: If Not P2, then Contingent R (Definitionally true)
P3: So contingent R (From P1 & P2)
P4: R is USR for U (Restating definition)
C: Therefore, Contingency is USR for U (From P3 & P4)

A theist must accept one of the following:

1. Universe is necessary, (accept the 1st argument) or


2. Contradictions can obtain, (Deny P1) or


3. Contingency is USR for U. (Accept the 2nd argument)
is xis conflation between between metaphysical necessity and causal necessity
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it looked high tier at first but it was wrotten by a female so maybe not
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wtf does the 3rd option in this forumlated trilemma even mean 😭
yea nvm this is mid tier
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>>54321
this is hecking misogynistic
>>54326
Girls are fucking retards lol.
Every bad idea ever was 1000% inspired by or had something to do with a woman at the very least.
Like progressive ideology and sympathy for terrorists.
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>>54327
But okay okay there are a small few 1000000 IQ sheltered christian/hecking mega nazi trad girls out there somewhere chud so dont worry or something.
>>54327
Then again its mens fault for allowing the downfall of society to occur, so men are retarded.
>>54320
what is the contradiction in denying p1
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>>54338
>republicans are smarter than fiminists
>>54330
this was the original post

Definitions:
R: Ultimate sufficient reason for why U exists
U: Universe
USR: Ultimate sufficient reason
Argument:
P1: Suppose R such that it guarantees U. (Stipulative, non-debatable premise)
P2: R necessarily obtains.
C: Thus, U is necessary.

Note: To deny P1, you will have to show that there is something Incoherent or Contradictory within the notion of R since the premise is stipulative. As there is nothing Contradictory within the concept of R; thus, P1 can't be denied.

Therefore, to deny C, P2 must be denied.
P1: Not P2 (implication of rejecting P2)
P2: If Not P2, then Contingent R (Definitionally true)
P3: So contingent R (From P1 & P2)
P4: R is USR for U (Restating definition)
C: Therefore, Contingency is USR for U (From P3 & P4)

A theist must accept one of the following:

1. Universe is necessary, (accept the 1st argument) or

2. Contradictions can obtain, (Deny P1) or

3. Contingency is USR for U. (Accept the 2nd argument)
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what i posted initially was a refined one but ig he left out why theres a contradiction
>>54338
awardi
>>54326
this makes it look like the standard deviation is 5 points
i apologized to trent ts morning and cleared things up and as online today but ignored ofc 💔
>>54338
shes an andrew tate fan 😭
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>>54345
Woah
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>>54340
what. I thought that God, under necessary properties of his nature, is compelled to create the universe, akin to Thomism
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>>54355
i was saying the girl in the meme is as dumb as the ppl she was portrarying
>>54357
then modal collapse which is literally what the argument is
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ts is just modal collapse but female style (10% as good as original)
i love larping as a misogynisyic raped faggot
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>>54358
and i do agree that Tate fans (including my Dad) are retards
>>54359
>i love larping as a misogynisyic raped faggot
Let's hope you're not misogynistic or a raped person. Because if that's how that happened then I feel sorry for you.
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>>54361
im not a victim and im "misogynistic" in the same way that ppl are called racist for citing 13/50
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>>54362
Always stay strong, I guess.
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>>54363
validating
>>54358
am I accepting modal collapse or is she presupposing modal collapse? it seems C is trying to initiate an infinite regression
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>>54372
the first argument presented is the modal collapse argument in female language
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no Y chromosome?
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>>54340
>>54376
so if it is not necessary that R creates U, R does not create U. This means that all possible events are necessary. Ok girl
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>>54383
... women
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ohnono femcacas are we really conflaiting causal necessity with metaphysical/ontological necessity
i almost mustered up he courage to talk in the sorael server but i didnt
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>>54386
just talk, you lose nothing by 'losing'
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anyways guess who said they wanted to talk but didnt say shit :3
ill just pretend like he doesnt exist until he wants to talk to me bc i guess our friendship is forced to be dictated by him
>>54387
thats not why im nervous really
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>>54389
oh, what is the reason?
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>>54390
ive never done it b4 💔
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>>54391
just do it and see how far it will take you
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and what about not doing it before sacres you? please use your metacognition, i'm certain you are good at using it
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>>54393
havent rly been using it recently
>>54392
ugh but im an observerrrrrr
im nervous around ppl i dont know
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>>54395
I swear I should just respond to her just like how I talked with spheno if I am able to
I think the manosphere and the mtf community have a lot of overlapping things about gender. They obsess so much over presentation
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>>54397
my man (or body) must be 195+ cm height, 17+ cm below, tanned skin, 5% body fat, 30% muscle, 315 bench press, brown hair, blue eyes
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It just feels like that progressives tend to believe that they have less control over their life compared to conservatives; it seeps into their empirical propositions such as the casualty of sexualities and woman/manhood
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>>54398
less sunlight makes you more aryan because your skin tone is lighter
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>>54400
>vitamin d deficiency
wait i live in a northern state, i already have that be default
>>54399
that is lirerally the exact narrative progressives are spreading
>how ur born determines if you will succeed or not in life (ts is how privilege derives)
>being trans and gay isnt a choice
>you dont choose religion, rwligion chooses you
etc
i'm reading posts on crystal cafe now since the sharty 'log is usually stale
the validity of the ideologies they are currently pushing is purely contingent upon deterministic propositions
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>>54409
this sentence is so /dial/core holy

instead of deterministic, just say fatalistic
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>>54410
i dont think fatalism is exactly what i meant vro - perhaps for the privilege assertion they make, but the other ones are moreso deterministic, especially the gay/trans isnt a choice one.
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anyways, should i sleep at 9pm or stay up until midnight gang
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>>54412
Whatever makes you happy, gangy...
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>>54413
im asking acerdius gangy
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and ill never be happy 😭🗿😈🐈‍⬛️⬛️◼️♟️
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>>54411
oh, are you saying that gay marriage should be legalized if homosexuality is not a choice? this is what i'm getting at from what you are saying
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>>54414
Your gang consists of just 1 other person? geg.
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>>54412
sleep easy
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>>54417
yis
>>54416
i wasnt making any assertions myself
>>54418
not easy stfu 💔
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>>54419
oh
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>>54415
You poor soul...
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>>54421
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>>54422
Redditers do not deserve rights so opinion invalid
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>>54422
before u say it yes im the reddit user
i have an acc 😹 but i dont use it
>>54423
trvke nvth or smth
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>>54427
what
I hate seeing you being self-depreciating
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nu 'fe
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>>54438
Wait, corbyn said biological women don't exist? GEG.
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>>54439
is that party dying?
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>>54442
Dead in the water before it even started mate.
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>>54443
what was the funniest thing that they have said about muslims?
I do see validity in feminist talking points against transgenderism, so I wonder about the redeeming qualities of left-leaning ideologies
>>54467
It's about to be doebeit
>>54436
how is that self-depricating
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nigga
>>54625
posts akin to >>54415
I guess not self-depreciating, but moreso pessimistic
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>>54658
i did that as intentionally shitty humor
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>>54666
ok bro, I find it distasteful
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I am Cambodian and this is my rant on first wave feminism
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>>54667
ok bro, humor is subjective therefore youre wrong or something
>>54668
what about second wave feminism
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>>54671
who knows? he said nothing about the personhood of the fetus right after conception
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>>54673
i dont exist therefore i dont know because knowing is half the battle
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>>54674
what
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anyways, i ranted in my discord server about how progressivism wants to remove what makes sex special from sex itself which is just reduction and gives sex no meaning as if it had very much in the first place, then i complained about how techbology is both replacing us and erasing the things about is that makes us human, so tech is also erasing us on top of replacimg us.
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>>54675
incoherent niggerblabble
actually thats a tautology; all niggerblabble is incoherent
pleonasm* fuhh
>>54676
funny
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>>54680
its NOT funny, humanity is committing sewer slide bro
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>>54681
oh no
copy paste the rant here
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>>54683
all leftists wanna do is reduce sex into mass masturbation
we have the gift of enjoyment through love which also entails procreation, and progressivism wishes to separate what makes sex special from sex itself (the pleasure)
the encouragement to make getting off easily addicting to young men will surely result in a decreased population. But its alright cuz we have sperm dination right? Well, then nobody is growing up with a father...
I so desperately wish to successfully rebel from this cycle that the technological revolution is trapping men in

[i shift the topic here and im js kinda rambling incoherently]
Tell me, if you had the option to live in a simulation that brought nothing but joy and pleasure and good things to your soul, as your material body wastes away in a pod, would you do it? Only a fool would oblige, yet this seems to be the reality that many wish to progress towards anyway.
Humans constantly need a goal to strive towards, and we are running out of options to satiate holistic curiosity.  We are killing ourselves in countless ways all at the same time. Originality was the norm, but now conformation to systematic modes of innovation has been normalized. Next up is creativity, the youth doesn't have humor, the youth isn't proficient in basic academics, and the youth wishes to consume things rather than do things. If this continues, then technology is going to slowly and steadily replace every single attribute that makes a human a human, and guess what technology is specifically designed to mimic the human? AI is our Frankenstein.
humans are eluminating their own qualia
again, fucking eetarded creatures we have become
The Sun doesn't care, however, because the Sun cannot feel; the Sun cannot experience. The same applies to AI; this creation does not actually care, it is based in code and and electrical signals that act accordingly to a deterministic maxim. Is this what we are going to reduce ourselves to, or are we no better than the robot? Are we making something that is, in reality, equivalent to us? Does there exist a structure within our technologies that has the capacity to express consciousness?
>>54684
@lachgoy I can't help but agree with this sentiment
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>>54685
i want goonerism to be punishable by chemical castration
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>>54684
I hate not being able to articulate why I hate porn, but with this, I can respond that it drastically alters one's perception of sexuality to something only for pleasure, which has no ontological moral value, thus only negative consequences follow. By making sex more separate from procreation and more of a commodity, with commissions certainly not being an exception, it harms relationships as sex is intrinsic to it.
>>54686
dude we ought not to decrease the birth rates any longer; it's already low enough
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>>54690
Conspiracy: NWO wants birth rates to decline so far that women's standards in men decline so rapidly that people start mass race mixing and melting into one race with bad genes as a part of a globalist agenda.
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>>54691
sir this is not /schizo/ anymore
in the og thread where it is described as schizo, I thought me and nveot was described as schizo, but it seems that it's moreso briar schizo instead
>>54690
chemical castration doesnt stop sperm production. it is a sex hormone inhibitor which reduces sex drive in both of the sexes
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>>54696
Oh neat, I like that. Everyone should get that and then ask the government to be uncastrated if they have the appropriate reasoning.
Like that suppression field from HL2.
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>>54697
its also suprisingly effective with sex offenders i hear
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thats how u know it does its job properly
>>54698
It being associated with sex offenders is a pretty bad thing though. I'm not taking the shit that exclusively troons and pedos use, cus I'm not a troon or a pedo.
>>54696
oh wait nvm; are the effects perfectly reversible?
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>>54701
hormone production usually goes back to normal, but the problem with it is that chemical castration INDUCES a hormonal imbalance which has lasting health effects like osteoporosis in women, etc.
in the future there may be some product that orevents sex hormones from interacting with the brain, but is still able to carry out its essential functions
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>>54703
Being a pharmacist student, do you know how those drugs work? Do they make you infertile or what? And can the same sort of thing be replicated by a specific diet?
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>>54704
chemical castration doesnt make you infertile but it messes around with sexual functions presumably such as, ya know, not getting aroused. Im only done with my first semester. Next sem we are doing over the counter pharmacotherapy. we dont get into prescription medications until the second year.
and a diet that would inhibit sex hormones would be an unhealthy diet
i know what you personally want, but healthy diets impact sex hormones in the positive direction (as in they increase it)
the quickest way to lose your libido is to become morbidly obese
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>>54706
which seems that gooners tend to not be fat. is homosexuality caused by increased estrogen? are you yet to figure out how to reverse it?
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>>54707
prenatal conditions are the biggest predictor for homosexuality
also a specific part of the brain, a subsection of the hypothalamus, is, on average, half the size in faggots as it is in normal people
there might be some evidence that estrogen has to do with it, but idk on that regard

and idk about "gooners tend to not be fat" but i cab certainly tell ya that the fatter ones dont jork it as much. in fact at some point obesity induces ED because your fat literally blocks erectile vessels from filling erectile tissues. this isnr as bad as it sounds tho because erectile bloos flow isnt necessary and in fact it causes damage if it occurs for hours on end
also fat cells have the ability to convert T intk estrogen
ts is like holding fresh reciepts all day long.every day (yes fresh reciepts have estrogenics)
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>>54709
i'm aware; plastics tend to have endocrine distruptors, I've seen this proposition repeated in manosphere videos
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not all plastics, but they are present in bpas and it seems that the list on whether each type of plastic has endocrine has endocrine distruptors are not fully known
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>>54710
as someone who was never jn the manosphere, i didnt learn this u til last summer
im no longer comfortable holding reciepts with my bare hand even tho ir would take the touch of thpusands of them in a short period to have any effect
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holy typos
i hate the keyboard on phones
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>>54711
there are plenty of things that we are not told about the things we consume because it is not a legal obligation
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you are not obligated to be informed that cockroach fragments are allowed in coffee grounds but here we are
... and then you have california where everythinf has a cancer causing warning because everyone is a dumbass nigga
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>>54716
You will eat ze bugs
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did you know that chemotherapies themselves are cancer causing?
hilariously ironjc
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>>54719
its one of the many reasons im getting off of coffee
it also drains your energy because caffiene is a diuretic that reduces the bioavailable in your body, which is the most important cofactos in glycolysis
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>>54721
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the bioavailable magnesium**
>>54723
the video wont play 💔
>>54723
its probably one of the big reasons as to why most people that get cancer once get it a second time
altho genetics altho have an influence because cancer is an uncontrolably replicating cell, and this risk that this error happens is at least somewhat dependent on genes
ok naw thats inaccurate but ppl that get it once are more likely to get it a second time
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>>>54684
>I hate not being able to articulate why I hate porn, but with this, I can respond that it drastically alters one's perception of sexuality to something only for pleasure, which has no ontological moral value, thus only negative consequences follow. By making sex more separate from procreation and more of a commodity, with commissions certainly not being an exception, it harms relationships as sex is intrinsic to it.

Trvth nvke , I hate porn so much dude they advertise it and introduce it to minors with no little internet restriction like it’s the CIA with crack in black neighbourhoods . Porn leads to complete depravity in the long run essentially as time passes it’s likely you’ll develop immoral sexual tendencies like zoophilia , necrophilia or pedophila when you’re addicted to porn .that’s not even considering how badly is objectifies people especially women (don’t want to sound muh heccin male feminist but it would be a complete lie if we didn’t acknowledge the fact most (NOT ALL)  gooners or lustful individuals are men) . I genuinely believe it’s unlikely the ((( (owners of porn websites )))) will ever change and have any moral accountability and because of the insane amount of revenue websites like Pornhub rank up annually ALONE I doubt we’ll ever see any restriction of it whatsoever in the future . If I wasn’t catholic I’d say these people who control the distribution of pornograohy should be dragged out into the streets and shot infront of their families (alongside airline company CEOs) but God forgive me all life is valube Christ remove wrath from my heart 

(Voluntary) Sex workers should be publicly shamed and don’t deserve respect at all , sorry for the rant 

Go my Evelyn dance the night away
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>>54728
sex "work" will never be real work
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>>54730
>bbbut youre satisfying men which is the chief end of all human actions o algo
ive had thousands of calories of chocolate i the last day and imma have even more
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>>54734
these off putting declarations of you doing bad things are giving me physical pain
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>>54728
when you dont have the need to care about mkrality, and you have an immoral opportunity to "gain the world and lose your soul," your innate instinct is to take the opportunity
>>54737
im not feeling well ok? also choccy is good or something (its all because of xmas btw, i would NEVER buy more than one bar of chocolate at once)
i definitely drink too much pop, but as a person who is psychologically addicted to it, i think im controlling it well
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i used to consistently drink one pop a day
that was my low point for sure
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>>54740
he needs soda poppy to live
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>>54742
i love soda poppy
new name how dis
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>>54744
Gay
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>>54745
you're gay be quiet
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>>54746
No, but you probably want me to be.
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>>54747
im not so delusional as to want an individual whom I do not know the appearance of
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>>54748
People who have used Discord often get catfished by troons or fall downbad to someone just because of their profile picture, so you may not thankfully be so delusional but in my experience, that's how they are.
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>>54749
dumb ass niggas lmao
>>54742
Id steal that thing from him , I’d steal it from him and watch his confused and sad expression search the room for help that won’t come
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>>54753
nooooooo please dont be mean to the kitty cat
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This is the funniest shit I've seen all day
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>>54755
dr pepper could be replaced with anything else lmao
Dr. Pepper: why the fuck was I chosen for this shit?
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>>54755
#BecomingaMan 😄 #Yep #ImTransgender 🌈
>>54756
Completely unrelated statemet followed by "im trans btw" they're so neurotic geg
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Also I found this
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>>54759
catt
>>54758
"im not racist but the sky is blue" ahh sentence
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>>54730
Trvth , sex workers (in a position of voluntary ignorance and non-desperation) should be absolutely shamed . I don’t say this in a fit of chud incel rage but the implications of being a sex “worker” in todays society are heavily immoral and subject to complete apathy . Not only are you WILLINGLY HEAVILY DIRECTLY contributing to sex trafficking and the objectification of women but also contributing to sky rocketing divorce rates and sexual dysfunctionality in the society we live in . FRICKKK I HATE PORN FRICKKK FRICKK ITS ALL CONTROLED BY ZIONIST JEWS TOO FRICKKK FRICKKK
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>>54762
i love me some wall jelly
>>54754
Don’t leave me unattended around doctor pepper it’s gonna look like a catholic couple on their honeymoon
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>>54764
should i leave this person unattended with a bottle of Dr. Peppah?
>>54764
Dont leave xim alone with dr pepper its gonna look like a latter day saints member around children unsupervis
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we put nveot and frewson in a room with nveot holding a Dr pepper
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>>54767
i am NOT making it out alive
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>>54766
Sorry if that was a bad joke btw, I just heard rumors and it unsettles me.
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>>54769
catholic priests
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>>54770
Isnt religion supposed to be wholesome doe so why are there weirdos in the holy fandom o alg
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>>54771
there will always be corrupted people a community
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>>54771
probably modernism and syncretism
>>54772
Is being a furry just as bad as being a LDS/FLDS member or a catholic priest?
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I was searching for art until I saw avali purchasing power decrease ((( art )))
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>>54775
what does this mean
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>>54777
there is one economic phenomena that has a biconditional relationship with decreasing purchasing power which is related to the abomination I laid witness to
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>>54778
what is that economic phenomena
i forgor everything from economics class
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>>54779
the thing when currency loses value and was increasing quickly at a steady pace in America for the last 30 years
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>>54780
ah yes inflation fetishes
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i apologize for that taking me too long to understand
>>54781
geg
>>54781
i lost attraction to it btwdoebeit Gg
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>>54784
what did he mean by this
You used to be attracted to inflation?
Bruh fucking looking unwise at red lines on graphs going up wtf 💀
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>>54785
I was able to undevelop a fetish somehow
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>>54784
was THIS what you didnt wanna tell me not too long ago when u were looking at aaron's brimstone?
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>>54786
oh wait no its not i remember how u developed it now
>>54787
its someone different
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>>54789
... somewhat
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>>54790
should I namedrop?
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>>54791
yis please
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>>54792
ritualneo
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I hate him so much
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>>54793
#doxallgooners
>>54794
for what precise rsn
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>>54796
openly projecting his inflation and fat fetish raisin against my will and probably had far too many minors exposed and conditioned by this
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>>54797
lets execute him
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>>54798
but the death penalty
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>>54799
ugh fyne restrict his internet access
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send him this
wait wasnt there another person who's avatar is an inflation fetish
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>>54802
hyo's boyfriend
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>>54803
girlfriend* that nigga is def not a real man but can coooooooook holy shit i wanted to smash some of the food she made
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>>54804
how so?
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as in whether that person is a foid
>>54805
i was makig a joke
noone that projects their fetishes in public are good people
why do so many boomers mistake facebook for google?
who knows
does anyone like touhou music?
https://archive.org/details/touhou-11-original-soundtrack/13.+Solar+Sect+of+Mystic+Wisdom+~+Nuclear+Fusion.flac
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>>54810
this first song has a nice feel to it
ok the rest of these just sound like random beats playing on repeat ngl
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no offense
>>54812
Noooooooo
maybe i didnt give enough time for each but that first one was nice
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im having a dilemma on if i even enjoy anything anthro in the first place and if i want to even make art for it uuuuuuuugh
>>54816
there are times when I feel the same way; you are the least alone here, Meathook Marty felt the same at one point
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cognitive dissonance hitting harder than the Dad's belt
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>>54816
This is just every day life for punished autistic souls but I rebound always for my life for cute lil floof people that are innocent but unfortunately corrupted by the masses for some reason.
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>>54819
I pray for you.
>>54820
and the reduced executive function also
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>>54786
Bro casually saying he was into inflation at one point
I mean we all have a past so, lets just forget it, I guess.
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i drank too much pop 💔
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>>54825
dialbetics
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>>54826
diuretics
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>>54827
eclectics
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>>54828
dihlectics 🥀
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>>54820
i guess i still kind of see this anthro thing as the shit weak faggots do, tbh the only reason i got into it was because i thought averi was cute or something, rest i just dont care fan, would rather be a shitbox car autist but living in a town without anything to my name kinda kills this dream but i still need to do something to not feel fucking dead inside
>>54829
catalectics
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>>54830
become waltuh whyte
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>>54831
im not creative enough ro do anything other than a dihh joke
KaneBlectrics
>>54832
drugs are gay
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KaneB is actually quite old isnt be
>>54834
bbbut they make u moneh
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>>54836
fuck money nigga
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>>54830
there are times when I imagine myself as rebellious to cultural norms, especially when it is true that in the early days of the furry fandom, they were separate from the funny animal people, which were sexual and had infected the furry fandom. furries were actually fine at the start and furfags and anti furs don't want you to know this. we are retaking the furry fandom from evil by creating sites like the vooey and the freety
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>>54837
u need it to live in this society nigga
unless u wanna run off into the woods and become one with the niggers or something
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>>54839
i would do this
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>>54840
then do it tomorrow morning
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youre welcome for helping u find ur purpose
>>54841
ok but how do  iget to africa
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>>54843
make a boat
its not that hard 🥀😹
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>>54844
its like the migrant boats but reverse
>>54844
Have you built a boat before, arrogant asshole?
This aint roblox bro
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>>54846
im being ironic you autist
>>54830
or i will become the next whyte rapper or something because i can somewhat sing
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>>54848
the next NF or eminem
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>>54830
>>54830
Its often demoralizing but I enjoy what I'm able to make and provide for myself in the face of so much sin out there. All my creations are never like theirs, I don't know what inspires those people to draw such horrible things and bad scenarios, I'll never use my talents and skills for sin, but they do for some reason. I'm autistic so I don't really like people, I find animal people more easier to look at and converse with etc. Animals are cute and I love animals and I love kitty cats and ferrets and martens and bunni bunni bunnis etc, and I don't mind pictures or drawings of them walking around and talking and being cutesy etc, but I hate that a massive section of that and that community and that art is just fucking porn and sex and all sorts of disgusting shit that I was also somewhat unfortunately exposed to at such a young age. 

I managed to grow out of it, but I couldn't let go of the concept of anthros in general. I find them easier to draw and relate to, I just don't like humans very much. And I see sin and sexual behaviour as being somewhat human so much so that it just doesn't belong in the art that I find comfort in. In a way I've almost just accepted that humans are sinful creatures so randomly seeing onlyfans whores or strippers exist in public is just something we don't think about, but when it comes to anthros it just kind of makes me angry, because I want to enjoy something that isn't sinful for once. 

I see anthros as an escape from a sinful species, I want to leave all that if bad about us as a species behind and focus on creating perfect artwork, I can make characters who don't sin and are perfect in every way, but most artists are not the same, they make weird fantasy art, weird big boobs fetish shit and oversexualized slop that doesn't appeal to me, it's all slop and I hate how women are portrayed. I hate how it's almost as if women are just allowed to not have any morals, women and female characters in a lot of degenerate's artwork. They never stop to question what they're doing is wrong, they're always treated like sex objects and its good for them to be hedonistic lustful creatures and whores for some reason. And it's kind of like this for women in real life, a lot of that sinful and hedonistic lifestyles like onlyfans and strippers etc are not being shamed enough, it's all defended with "im a fucking princess and can do whatever I want"

I'm so tired of living in the age of the internet where people's actions genuinely aren't criticized enough, all porn artists should get fired from their jobs and be sent to prison honestly.
>>54849
the next snca polish street hip hop artist or something
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>>54851
>i dont liek ze juice and im guessing zat ze dont liek me too
>>54838
please understand that furries do not represent any ethical proposition and no amount of propaganda or defacing can change that
bbbut furries = pedos
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>>54854
pls you are not funny
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nvm it is funny when you throw the PoE at anyone who contradicts themselves
>>54855
youre mean and WRONG and a fagvali as always
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>>54830
its also maybe because i have irl friends that come over and everybody sees it as a weird thing
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also is mocking ppl unfunny or smth
>>54859
Noooo stop
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>bbbut furries = pedo
was supposed to be mocking
when i use bbbut thats usually the case
>>54860
oof the social pressure also
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>>54862
>Noooo stop
>noooo stop capitalizing words
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>>54865
USee correct Grammer please you Kant spell and punctuate
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>>54864
the bonus is that im not a lonely faggot geg
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>>54866
I'm getting ragebaited, aren't I? Anyhow, does anyone know is drinking liquid bromine is supposed to make you feel queasy? Also if I theoretically fit this scenario, should I call poison control?
is ts the hangout thread now?
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>>54869
Idk tbh I just reply to the most recent message so I guess we're hanging out in their hang out
>>54867
Gg
My heart is full of pride and wrath how will I get eternal salvation
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A conversation about the moon and cheese
>Skeptical Raptor (SR): The moon is a large, rocky body that orbits the earth. It is approximately 4.4 billion years old.  

>Moon Denier Soyiety [(MDS) and also dialetheistic]: The moon is made of cheese. That is the truth.  

< The moon is not made of cheese. NASA landed on the moon and brought back rocks, not cheese.  

>The moon is made of cheese. NASA faked the moon landings, everyone knows that. Those are just earth rocks.  

<The moon is not made of cheese. We have evidence of the moon landings. And moon rocks differ so much from earth rocks, you couldn’t just exchange some rocks found on the ground with moon rocks. And they found no evidence of cheese anywhere.

>The moon is 99% cheese. Obviously, NASA never landed on the moon, or they would have found the cheese. This is more evidence that the moon landings were faked.

<I thought we were talking about cheese. Anyway, the moon is not made of cheese. Years of scientific evidence and observation support this. A cheese moon would be destroyed by meteorites and gravitational forces. We could detect the organic compounds of cheese.  

>The moon IS made of cheese. It’s very strong cheese. Or it keeps getting replaced by the moon-cheese factory. Big Astronomy doesn’t want you to know it is cheese because it would affect sales of telescopes. What if Big Astronomy just hangs up a cardboard cutout of the moon whenever it gets destroyed? Therefore the moon is made of cheese.  

< The moon is not made of cheese, there is no proof that Big Astronomy exists and it is irrational to expect so many scientists would lie for so long. Neil deGrasse Tyson, so far, has not posted one single thing on his Facebook account about the moon being cheese.  

>Neil deGrasse Tyson hates Pluto, ergo he doesn’t know anything about cheese on the moon.

<Well there’s a strawman argument. I should keep track of them for my logical fallacy bingo card.

>The moon IS made of cheese. Big Milk is keeping the truth from the people so we won’t mine the moon for cheese.  

<There we go, the shill gambit. The moon is not made of cheese, it is not economical to mine the moon and transport anything, cheese or not, from the earth to the moon. Plus, this contradicts your assertion that the beliefs about a rocky moon are maintained by Big Astronomy, which you haven’t actually supported in any way. So is there a conspiracy between Big Astronomy and Big Milk to hide the truth? Or are you going to use a shill gambit to accuse me of being paid by both Big Astronomy and Big Milk?

>Bravo! You get it.  

<SR: Sigh. I forget you guys are blind to sarcasm and irony.  

>THE MOON IS MADE OF CHEESE!!!!!!! SHUT UP!! I’M GLAD I WON THIS ARGUMENT!!!!! YOUR JUST MAD I WON.  

<SR: No it’s not and no you didn’t. And typing it out in ALL CAPS does not make your argument factual or evidence-based. There is no evidence that the moon is made of any cheeses. All we see on the moon are rocks. And it’s “you’re” not “your.”  

>Grammar Nazi!!!!!!!!!!! The surface of the moon may have rocky elements to it. But underneath the crust, it is solid cheese.  

<The moon is made of rocks. Not cheese. In case you don’t know, cheese is made up of fat, protein, water, and gas, while rocks are made of, well, rocks that are much denser. A cheese moon would not exert as much gravitational pull on the earth, and we would be able to tell the difference between a cheese-core moon and a rock-core moon through the influence of the moon on earth’s tides. This is science.  

>…(erases discussion) I like pie. Therefore I win.  

<SR: Well, that’s got to be a logical fallacy. We’ll call it a red herring. There are no plausible mechanisms that would allow the moon to make cheese. None at all.  

> And just because YOU don’t know how the cheese is created on the moon, doesn’t mean that there isn’t a cheese-creating mechanism at the core of the moon. Run by secret moon wizards. And there are moon cows, that only live on the far side of the moon, eating moon grass that grows during the 14.25 days of the month where it’s illuminated – presumably spending the remaining 14.25 days in hibernation or possibly storing metabolite like cacti. Naturally, since the crust is mostly rock, then the grass would also contain mostly rock too, leading to heavier milk and cheese. There’s your Occam’s Razor! All you need to do is assume the existence of a completely novel form of biological life and the explanation becomes simple! Even more so when this neatly explains the motivation for Big Milk – moon cheese is much more valuable than “Earther cheese” and only the super-wealthy can afford the biological processing necessary to make it edible instead of poisonous which is why only the super-rich members of the Illuminati and Freemasons know about it. NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE!!!!!

<Wow, there is a whole list of logical fallacies. A Gish gallop. An argument from ignorance. An ad hominem argument. Maybe a non sequitur or two. And let’s not forget a shill gambit or two. My bingo card is full.

>I win, you lose. I will tell the world that the incompetent feathered dinosaur knows nothing about the moon. And cheese.
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>>54873
huh
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>>54874
i should have came up with my own dialogue instead of stealing it from other people
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>>54873
the dialethist contradicts themselves by denying Nasa's moon landing
>>54875
what
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>>54830
>>54817
i read On Stories by cs lewis recently (well, bits of it) & it cleared some things up in this regard

whether a piece of art is conventionally "mature" or not is totally separate from whether it communicates things worth communicating - there's some adult media with terrible messages, & some children's fairytales that older people can still draw valuable ideas from. at the end of the day, if you're literate and willing to be charitable, the medium of a message shouldn't matter

relatedly, it's worth asking yourself if you actually * want * to make things that appeal to a wider audience. i've come to realise that the main reason i keep drawing funny animals (as much as i like the character designs) is because it's the best way to reach the crowd of people i want to interact with. the thing about anthro nonsense is that it filters for people who understand how to engage with art beyond what is "weird" vs. "normal" - that's a deeply valuable trait to have when a lot of what is deemed normal in modern society is actually extremely strange & disordered

>>54838
>furries were actually fine at the start
incorrect buzzer
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>>54994
and that's why i now think it's okay to take stuff like this seriously even though it seems goofy & childish when compared to what artists did in ye olde times. it's an intentional subversion of good taste to deter people who navigate the world via "common sense", which served us relatively well once upon a time, but is now twisted in so many ways
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>>54996
welcome back to the avfoo, unc
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>>55003
i am LITERALLY not an unc
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>>55004
"unc" as in youre extremely old and probably dying of heart failure and an enlarged prostate
i myself am having heart problems /j or something therefore im an unc too
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acerdius do u wanna do a vc today
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>>55011
maybe
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>>54994

>incorrect buzzer
the fandom was first started by Steve Galacci, which was handing out albedo anthropromorphics comics in 1983. I repeat, during the first days of the furry fandom, the funny animal people under vootie, not being furries at the time and the furry fandom were separate entities. wait vootie ended before the furry fandom started what it died in Feb 1983 while albedo anthropromorphics released in May 1983, which was supposed to be the start of the furry fandom what
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>>55021
no0o0ooo00 why are we debating history
>>55013
horray
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>>55024
if the furry fandom stated out as sex positive, does it make it intrinsically sex positive?
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>>55029
naur
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>>55030
technically ig, but I want to have the furry fandom be ontologically good by default
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I cannot wait until the day the sex positive movement dies out
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>>55032
why "good" and not just neutral, as in its not a morally significant variable
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>>55033
saaaaaaaaaaaame this shit is destroying families and shit
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>>55034
but like evil is non being and since good constitutes itself as being, things like inanimate objects are intrinsically good in a sense
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>>55036
what? how does that connect
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>>55038
it makes everything good by default, and if it is defaced by an incorrect worldview, they are taking that good thing away from you by appropriating it to their narrative. by reclaiming it, you are retaking it from evil
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>>55035
it gets demoralizing when people keep insisting it is good for your mental health
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>>55040
how can one even justify
this to be true? "it sounds good in theory"?
>>55039
so youre using that as your default view of what is good and what is evil? ontological evil is described negatively?
>this to be true? "it sounds good in theory"?
It means they have no hecking shame and what they are doing is releasing something deep within themselves that should otherwise be repressed! There is no hecking moral distinction between different ways to approach sex as long as it does not directly harm you! maybe i'm comprehensively familiar with this narrative

>so youre using that as your default view of what is good and what is evil? ontological evil is described negatively?
yes, do you not remember the neoplatonic proposition that is used against the problem of evil?
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i hate how these leftoids use the word ((( shame ))) when looking at people with porn addiction as if it is somehow only social pressure [it will never be the sole factor]
>>55042
i have not studied that shiz and i havent had the motivation go get past alpha 4 in aristotles metaphysics yet
>>55042
>neoplatonic proposition that is used against the problem of evil
explain it plz i may have forgotten this or i cannot retrieve it at the moment
>>55032
>>55029
Yeah the furry fandom is about fucking dogs, fantasizing about having a dog penis and animal rape, but most of the things that actually made someone a furry were innocent harmless and sinless cartoons starring walking talking funny animals. Odd...
>>55035
It's ruining society as a whole. I want the world to get better, but it's only going to get worse. It feels like people don't have much dignity these days, on the internet atleast. People will openly share their weird fetishes and want validation for it, people aren't being shamed enough, people are being disgusting in public pretty much. The internet isnt doing enough to prohibit these kinds of behaviours, people often overshare as much as possible without thinking twice. Women are being allowed to act in hedonistic and moralless ways, as well as men. Sex positivity has done nothing but ruin the world, over emphasizing the pleasure of sex and not the function of reproducing that it was intended for, of which usually comes with marriage which comes with stability. Pornography is ruining the quality of both men and women and turning them into goon freaks with not much to live for but gooning. Women are nothing more than twigs with boobs and men are just giant dicks. It's turning kids into freaks by making them think they're transgender or that they're sexually attracted to fat furry vore or CHANGED or some shit. 

I think people are lacking a father figure in general it seems, a lot of loss of direction in life, turning to hedonism, and violently defending that position as being a part of that lifestyle, which is why they have to defend the LGTV Furby gay trans pride communities and the femboy fandom shit who cares honestly. Because they have nothing else in life and they decided to dedicate their entire life to masturbating and getting masturbated to due to a general loss of greater goals or directions. Thankfully most of these people won't have kids but if they do, then the next generation is gonna be even more terrible.

I want an overall return of morals and dignity, people should be shamed for being "down bad" IRL and on the internet. Places like 4chan shouldn't exist, homes for the unviable men who simply gave up and resorted to marrying cartoon characters and just going about this gay self indulging fake romance where other men roleplay for them and it's just the most gayest shit I've ever seen. I think stuff like this happening and not being shamed is a symptom of society's downfall. I'm not even entirely sure what the reason to give up is, is getting a GF no longer viable? Is it economically bad? Is it just hard? Why is it hard? Is Gen Z in general just very lonely and isolated or is that just wrong and the normies are alright? Is "hookup culture" an issue? Are people not monogamous enough? Are people not faithful enough? Do people need God to control them but without that heavenly figure in their lives, they are completely out of control? 

Are some men just born with bad genes, is this seriously their fate? I think when it comes to reproduction, it's a superpower, idk why normies think everyone should reproduce, clearly some people shouldn't and won't. I think about how interesting it is, it's efficient, almost too efficient, like plugging 2 lego bricks together and somehow an entirely new person is generated from thin air, possibly being a clone of sorts, with mutations from each parent. If you think about it in that way, we're all clones of clones of clones, a direct proof of evolution itself. But the men out there that give up and the "incels" out there, it doesn't make sense to me. I mean just think about it. How could you possibly be "involuntarily celibate" unless your genitals were ripped off or something? Such an idea is the most dumbest shit ever, to expect that EVERY person should reproduce, regardless of the circumstances. 

But a lot of people, when they say that, they mean sex. But whats the point of sexual intercourse without offspring, just another quick goon? Are we too stuck in goon culture and hedonism to really pull ourselves out of this rut as a collective society? Men think they are deserved of using a woman's body just to goon with, and the lack of that makes them "involuntarily celibate" ? That sounds so fucking retarded to me. These people who obsess and romanticize about women and being in a relationship need good reason.

And I think Christians had good reasons. Be financially stable, find a wife, settle down and have as many children as possible under a nuclear family structure or a commune of sorts. Most HMOFAcucks probably have thought about that but have got nowhere close to even starting getting on it or improving themselves, they just want all the euphoria and fantasy without the hard work. 

Now most of this is coming from a guy who similarly doesnt put in much effort, but the difference is that I don't care, but if I did, I would know exactly what to do. I don't really like women and I'm put off by how they are portrayed and how they act. Overall nowadays the women that exist are subpar and theres no incentive for me to be interested personally, because society does not push a man such as myself to truly need a woman, but for other men they do so off of muh feewings and muh penis feews lonely, which is pathetic. I don't think men need women, but maybe women need men. That's how it should be, I don't think women should be independent, they should be dependent on men. Why should women work or be prostitutes or be allowed to be hedonistic when instead you could force women to rely on men and be man's helper like the bible intended? I'd argue that there isn't a wage gap, and if there is, it should be higher. Without these restrictions, women can just do whatever they want, be hedonistic, and get basically no moral repurcussions for it, as the internet and gooners prove that you can get away with being disgusting and get paid for it. In my perfect world, if Women couldn't do anything without men, things would be perfect, and maybe they would look at men differently, not as choices or options but as necessity. Cheating on your man or being immoral could lead to you losing your entire livelihood.

A lot of people would say that sort of thing is dystopian but I think it's a family structure that works and gives women a role in the world and society that is genuinely important, compared to now where women just exist and their reason for being here is "idk do whatever you want yas queen". I think men and women should have distinct roles and a man cannot do what a woman can and a woman cannot do what a man can. 

Anyways thats my spew.
>>55069
But, there is always a chance that my worldview is skewed and wrong. Maybe things in real life are actually better than they seem, and I'm just brainwashed by misinformation and internet slop.
HopeGoy's NEW WORLD ORDER:
ban condoms and abortions. Good luck retards.
Though I wonder if perhaps the reason why people are immoral is because morals are a fragment of their time period, we used have morals or the need to be more moral because we did not have the technology that would allow us to live in immoral ways. Now that AI is doing everything, people have no reason to follow christ or anything like that anymore and can simply revert to being animalistic in nature, but beforehand, if you were a woman, you would need to depend on a man to get things done and if you were a sinner you were more harshly treated, people died a lot easier and sooner and life was more serious because of that. But now everyone lives for so long and is here for no reason because the world, workforce, women or men don't need them, they can just be immoral gooners, created for no greater purpose other than to rot away like a bad apple that fell from the tree.

What does acerdius and elegance of the chuddim think of this?
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>>55074
People used to follow christ because the alternative was death. It was a system of control and power.
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>>55069
i aint readin allat (tonight at least)
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>>55142
Lady, hear me tonight.
hey hey hey
>>55075
>People used to follow christ because the alternative was death
errrm the alternative still * is * death?
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>>55730
Okay so how come I'm not dead yet for being a sperg who can't decide doe
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>>55731
i dont think thats what he meant
>>55069
this is quite the rant. it sounds very practical with ideas that I agree on, but not philosophical in the abstract sense, so I don't have much to say
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>>55758
geggington
sorry about acting weird last sunday evening
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>>55761
wasn't here to see what you acted
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>>55772
one of us is misunderstanding the other rn
im talking about last sunday
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>>55803
I do not remember what happened at that date, and I am concerned for not remembering it
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>>55804
i think u just didnt notice ig
i was having a mental episode paired with a little bit of EtOH and melatonin when we were talking at like 9pm or whatever
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>>55805
oof
wasn't able to play scav prototype, but watching videos of it gave me some irrational sense of dread and reading the Bible somehow undid it; felt like mentioning this bc why not. imagine playing this game for the first time in a dark room with headphones on
>>55841
Wtf is that thing and why is he disabled
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>>55842
expies from scav prototype
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>>55848
If it were up to me, I would rewrite the story where it's about trying to look for treasure deep within because you're desperate and times are tough rather than it being about how you're a genetically modified being forced into a suicide mission of retrieving a box for humans when they could've just used robots which are more resilient in harsh environments like those caves in game
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Why do I keep getting this "Furberg shekelstein" nameroll. This is the nameroll I keep getting the most. Obsessed nameroll
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>>55857
He's a jooish fooish
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>>55858
It's not even capitalized properly
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>>55859
So hecking uncapitalist
>>55841
thats strange
i thought you already played the game though?
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>>55854
poop and expies dying
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>>55912
do u wanna vc today
i would like some company on the last day of the year
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>>56016
ok
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>>56040
also my pfp isnt faggy as of now
its that tuff blurry photo of me from 4th of july that looks like two transparent ppl that u cant discern
niggers
i would get expelled from my college if anyone ever found out who i am and collected all my hard R's
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>>56047
the weight of regret
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>>56048
i dont regret it
its just that other people think that for some reason my speech warrants wasting away $150k+ in education against someone who isnt even a bad person
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>>56049
weird
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>>56050
i dont actually know how the process works lol
im sure it would be hard for me to get hired if it was found out
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>>56051
yeah, this is part of why my name here is different from what I usually go by
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>>56052
... and why i also changed my name completely for social medias geg
smart ig
>>56047
This will never happen, nobody is that obsessed. I've said nigger in school loads of times and I never got expelled. Your brain is brainwashed by fake and gay libtard propaganda that the world will hecking cancel you for being chuddy when thats not the case.
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>>56094
people here literally lose their jobs over what they say online
take your own country for example. people in the UK get fined or arrested for saying offensive words on social media. someone in your country got charged for calling their rapist a faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRJ00VjCiCk[Embed]
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>>56198
>people lose their jobs
I don't give a fuck? Maybe stop being a wagecuck lmao. You can't suck society's dick and also be yourself at the same time, what do you expect?
I had a dream yesternight where I believed that Plato postulated that if the platonic forms were used improperly, ie calling a cube a sphere, pink bubbles would flow through the platonic form within the subjective abstract realm of one's mind. My dream then moved to a visual representation of a dimwit's mental realm, with the following text saying that "those with a minimal understanding of the world has the platonic forms within them be flooded with pink bubbles." This presupposes that there are copies of platonic forms within each conscious entity.
>>53912
the idea of hinge propositions are like axioms but are presupposed in an individual's thought patterns by default such as "the material world exists." they vary between different cultures like in some ancient civilizations, one may believe that the earth is flat or how some eastern civilizations have different foundations of logic apart from its western counterparts. it is used as a response to the brain in a vat problem, where you cannot accept this proposition to be true without radically changing your belief patterns as all of your actions presuppose the existence of the material world. I don't like the idea because it is too pragmatic and is dismissive on investigating objective truth.
ugh hinge propositions bleed into praxic relativism; we can only criticize other cultures in the frame of our own hinge propositions and hinge propositions by definition are propositions that are not necessarily evaluated but presupposed in the formation of our framework. however. the language games postulated in philosophical investigations seem awfully conventionalistic at first, but we can consider ordinary language use in our judgment while reconciling traditional philosophy as we play an entirely different language game where terms now denote entities and phenomena that impact us where other language games couldn't. it seems we are able to justify or refute hinge propositions one at a time by drastically altering our judgment or using other hinge propositions to demonstrate contradictions like how we do in science
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do u wanna get ur phone back and vc tonight? im going back to the dorms tnt and im basically gonna be alone in the building cuz noone moves back in the friday before school starts
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>>58364
n word sayer geg
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>>58365
i hate niggers
fuck there we go
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>>58369
Aryandroid
>>58317
nvm about vc tonight, we can do it tomorrow if you want. im going to sleep soon because i can finally go to bed at 8pm without my family keeping me awake
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>>58364
I can get my phone back easily now, but I choose not to. the honors classes in 11th grade are braindead easy; 80% of the work is copying down instructions
>>58382
yeah I can do it
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I'm finishing the book of Matthew and starting to read the republic by plato
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>>58492
the only challenging thing is memorization. the connections are ez shit. also yaay, wht time ya think? im here till 8pm because i have been getting bad sleep and i needa straighten up on that regard.

>>58493
nice! ive found a few new yt channels on philosophy, and I strengthened my deontic collapse argument.
I made a theorem but I don't know how it would hold up against the knowledge of a deontic logician

The Deontic Collapse Theorem: an axiomatic dilemma in deontic logic
Definition 1: O(¬x) = "it is obligatory that not x"
Axiom 1: O[O(¬x) → ¬x]
Theorem 1 by Modus Ponens: If O(¬x), then ¬x within the obligatory domain; O(¬x)
Theorem 2 by Modus Tollens: If x, then ¬O(¬x) within the obligatory domain
Definition 2: ¬O(¬x) ↔ "It is permissible that x"; P(x)
Axiom 2: O(¬O(¬x)) ↔ ¬O(O(¬x))
Axiom 3: O(O(A)) ↔ O(A)
Theorem 3 by Biconditional Eliminations: ¬O(¬x)
Theorem 4 by Conjunctive Introduction: O(¬x) ∧ ¬O(¬x)
Theorem 5 by Ex Contradictione Quodlibet: O(x)

From this sequence,
Theorem 1 is a logical tautology, but the paradox is that O(¬x) seems to mean two different things here. From this, the obligatory predicate entails multiple meanings at the same time.
Theorem 2 leads to "immoral" and "permissible" becoming the same thing. From this, if modus tollens is to occur from axiom 1, Deontic Collapse follows.
>>58499
The paradox with the first theorem is that we seem to have two meanings of O(¬x) such that one asserts that ¬x actually occurs.
>>58499
no way you actually formalized it
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>>58502
I based all of this off of the limited information about deontic logic that is displayed on https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-modal/

I have yet to read https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-deontic/ which might disprove my argument. I am NOT using AI to evaluate this; I'm getting sick of AI proving how unreliable it is every time I use it. It literally misrepresented Aristotle's four causes when I inquired about it
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>>58503
Why did you use AI in the first place geg. It does nothing substantially good for our personal lives despite corporations dumping so much money on AI; I at this rate hope the bubble will burst unless it is true that AGI accelerates research
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Axiom 3 is sort of weak, but even then I could simply say that O(O(A)) → O(A) which is intuitive. This does not at all change the soundness of my argument.
>>58504
because sometimes it actually explains things well. I barely use it anymore but when I can't understand what some text says, I have chatgpt explain it. I have observed that the AI is somewhat adaptive and can somewhat understand how I learn.
>>58499
I think imma change axiom 2 to O(O(A)) → O(A)
man idk. ill come back to this after i read the deontic logic article. Axioms 2 and 3 seem controversial since the meaning of O(O(x)) is ambiguous
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Am I getting ahead of myself here? I feel like I'm abstracting such a small amount of information so aggressively that I'm going beyond what I myself can even evaluate to be correct.
It seems there isn't much philosophical content that teaches you how to think; they just argue for metaphysical claims and even in epistemology, the epistemic claims like the ones postulated by Descartes are still able to be viewed as theories. I guess Ludwig Wittgenstein was one of the few philosophers to break the cycle by attempting to describe the nature of the relationships between propositions through his ideas on hinge propositions. His language games are interesting, but I would like to reconcile this with metaphysics
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>>58510
I think you are jumping too much in understanding formal logic. How much of a foundation do you have in predicate logic? I would rather try to understand the 20 inferences in propositional logic before moving up to predicate logic.
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>>58516
Probably one of the few portions of philosophy that actually improves your ability to evaluate claims rather than parroting ideas from other philosophers like what existence did is formal logic
>>58499
I do not know how deontic logic works, so I am not evaluating this yet
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>>58518
I've been getting there. I have a good grasp of the predicate inferences except UG. They all also have conditions that I haven't internalized yet.

also plz txt me when you wanna do the vc because im not gonna be on discord anymore otherwise, and my notis are turned off

>>58520
I have the basics down, but I don't know how to evaluate argument yet. Its different from formal and predicate logic, since it utilizes modal logics which have conditions, accessibility relations, and semantics in order to evaluate claims.
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>>58536
not gonna be on discord anymore *today otherwise
>>58536
alright
i finally understand universal generalization yaay
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>>59581
oh hey
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>>59610
hi hi (funny how i check this site again 4 hrs later and you reply 5 min ago)
im off diddycord for a while btw
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>>59611
cool, I was watching a turkey tom video on a csam distributor
it was very disturbing and I felt like I did not hate pedophilia enough
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>>59615
good that you hate it even more now; it cannot be hated enough
honestly im starting to see discord as a poison, because ive been off the app for almost 2 days now and im starting to feel so much better lol
also have you made any progress with learning predicate logic?
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also found a pharmacy content creator on yt
hes a faggot but i like his videos
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>>59616
no because I have wrestling after school
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>>59618
just miss sleep /j
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>>59619
now, i'm just digesting what is said in that taxed brass video about condemning l*licon
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universal generalization is harder to understand than the other inferences because it has a different sentiment
UI is applying a rule that applies to a set onto a specific variable within that set
EI is basically just a tautology: we go from "there exists x that is P" and conclude P(C) where C is an undefined variable
EG is just the reverse of EI, except C is defined

UG is, similarly to EI, more of a tautology than anything: if a predicate P holds for an arbitrary x, then it 
The reason UG is valid is due to what "arbitrary" means here, its not the action of picking something arbitrarily, the word here means that no assumptions about x have been made.

>>59620
that video has a very high dislike ratio for some reason and im kinda confused by it

>>59617
also i just scrolled upon a video that revealed that this dude has a wife and my jaw dropped cuz this dude is so fruity.
>>59621
goo goo gooners gotta goo goo goon i guess
>>59621
Is that a video defending loli pedo shit and it has more likes than dislikes?
See this is why I hate humanity.
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>>59623
the video is doing the exact opposite
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>>59624
Why does it have a sarcastic title
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>>59625
I don't know. His audience is mostly shartyfags so that might have influenced how he named the video.
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ion wanna flood this place with comments but this was funny o algo
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im also seeing if alicia commented under the video, because he has seen the lib-left 'tube
>>59628
Sometimes it purple
>>59628
Hes being funny but dont you genuinely hate these types of rebuttals in arguments, like when troons ask you "So what is a woman?" or say some "Ermm actually" shit
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NAH WAIT ECMAC AND ALICIA HAD AN ARGUMENT IN THIS COMMENTS SECTION LMAO
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>>59632
it only seems irritating if you don't know how to come up with a good answer.
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>>59633
No way holy
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>>59621
>that video has a very high dislike ratio for some reason and im kinda confused by it
Braniggers are not happy when someone calls out their immorality. Picrel is the average person disliking that video

Also I don't intend to quote you with this Branigger so here's another arrow just for that one:
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>>59634
It's like playing chess with pigeons and troons are so distorted that if you respond with "adult human female" they respond with
>so im a woman
Or, a woman is a human female born with two x chromosones they go
>ermmm but how do you know dat tho
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>>59637
for the latter, they would just go on with how gender is a le heckin social construct
>>59635
the difference between a philosophically illiterate 3sd and an antithesis 1sd is evidently crazy
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>>59641
ecmac is philosophically illiterate?
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>>59642
yea
ecmac concedes so hard in a basic debate that you and i would rape alicia in
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>>59643
Oh wow that is not good
naaaaaah wait this is so embarrasing, someone in here thought ecmac was so tarded that they administered him the breakfast question
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>>59645
NO WHAT
>You're so cute, trying to replicate me. You will never reach my level, not even at my worst.
<you're so uncute at any given moment of your life
guess who is who lol
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what did the debate look like?
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>>59649
the former is alicia and the latter ecmac
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>>59650
not really a debate, just alicia harassing ecmac every chance he gets
>>59651
ya
>>59651
what r u doing now btw, are u at wrestling, or doing smth else
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>>59657
something else
>>59621
>>59636
Turns out the emperor doesn't like it and has a lot to lose when anyone dares to point out that the emperor has no clothes
>>59636
im simply confused by it because herd mentality and most people find it disgusting, so by extension they wouldnt dislike a video speaking against it
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i cannot imagine such a video would naturally have a 20% dislike rate
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>>59664
I thought people like that were much more fringe and uncommon
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>>59668
i think our intuition is correct there, hence why i added "naturally"
alicia must have forced the kids in his basement to dislike bomb it so that alicia wouldnt rape them for a day
taxed brass has so much sovl in his videos
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>>59674
what does that term mean, or is that another word where the u is replaced with a v
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shit only vegetarians love
>>59675
its just another word with the u replaced as a v
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>>59678
yea he is over enthusiastic in his vids
i almost lost todays wordle geg
oh wow
>>59661
>>59664
You don't know how the lolipedo mafia operates?
All they do is pull collective mob tactics to silence critics on soycial media.
They have countless vtumor reaction channels that send their pedophile viewers to mass downvote/report posts and videos stating the obvious.
It doesn't matter if it's a nophono X account that says it and they only have 2 followers and only 2 people saw the post. They'll do it to them too.
There isn't a debate and they know it. And that's why they'll do anything to appear to be the dominant voice on morality to prevent them all from being 'oxed to oblivion
>>59668
Uhhh.... It's bad. Really bad. It lead to the sharty being the ones to ever do something with how big and dominating it is.
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>>59687
im not educated on internet culture nor what happens behind the scenes. thx for the info, albeit that is what i assumed caused the massive dislike ratio
i was thinking "there's no way this would happen naturally"
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>>59689
It's so absurd that people do not intuitively think that this is pedophilic. I feel like I live in a completely different form of life than those people. I feel oblivious as to how fundamental the differences in people's normative ethics are as that is a direct motivator of all decisions that one subjectively perceive as good or permissible
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>>59692
not real = no immediate consequential argument = not le bad
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alicia also thinks that deontology is circular and therefore invalid and worse than consequentialism LOL
110 IQ indonesigga majoring in comp sci thinks he disproved one of the greatest philosopher's greatest philosophical theories
GEG
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>>59693
geg. I tend to assume that the layman does not have much of a ground in the fundamental principles to abide by. They presuppose that pleasure is intrinsically good, but is not the meaning of life
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>>59696
kant...
we, yes WE, GLAZE Kant
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>>59700
WE ARE EMMANUEL KANT 
WE CARRY THE FLAME
gnight niche community
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>>59772
Niche and Nietzche
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What portrait from the 18th century can be used for gigaquoting? I'm asking in this thread specifically for a reason
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Kinda lied; dont have any lectures tomorrow so im writing some stuff

Acerdius, what do you think of my variation of B-theory that I'm developing. This is a rough draft:

The “present” is not actual. Mathematically, it is an infinitesimally small point that is inexpressible.The passage of time is when a temporal proposition becomes the past tense. The “now; currently; present; ect” is arbitrarily derived when talking about some atomically singular event, as in one where the difference between the past and the future is instantaneous. However, the “present” can be, in some non-metaphysical sense, actual when used during temporal expression for a process in which multiple events occur as time proceeds, as there is now a point of reference. If the process of life takes 80 years, one can say that they are, in the present, alive during the 80 year duration of the process of being alive. Before this process began, it was a future proposition, “X will be alive,” and after death, it is a past proposition, “X was alive.” We do not use words to describe a present when talking about instantaneous occurrences.
Furthermore, time itself is, in actuality, an emergent/dependent variable. This does not negate the fact that time is used as an independent variable in physics, it is simply the case that time is dependent on the existence of other things, and is described by those things, not the other way around. This means that time is not an influence on what exists, but rather a patternistic variable. This allows us to essentially reverse engineer, and use time as an explanatory/independent variable, because its emergence is patternistic, consistent, and therefore can be used to predict the behavior of a system.

If you dont know what I mean by b-theory, a vs. b-theory are two different metaphysical theiries on the nature of time and the "present." A-theory is kinda mystical while B-theory is more consistent with physics.
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>>59786
Him.
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>>59786
WE LOVE IMMANUEL KANT
WE GLAZE THAT NIGGA 24/7
>>59793
That goes really hard ngl
>>59789
Before reading this, I recently got into a dial with my therapist approaching the end of the session and had some midwitty ideas from what i remember. since there is some stuff discussed before the dial, you may not have the full context. I am trying to go off memory. The conversation was boiled down to this;

>Try to name some belief that holds you back

<Perhaps with my idea that one should strive to be christlike, a moral action is an action that brings one closer to the optimal way of life. Under your understanding of stress, I would see every moral imperfection as a problem and knowing my understanding on the nature of perfection, the total magnitude of my problems are infinite. 

>This is a black and white view where you group all actions in two categories being absolute good and absolute evil, which is a cognitive distortion. 

<What

>Almost all acts are in between, being morally grey and more complex than they actually are. By viewing everything as black and white, your judgment will not see the full picture, causing you to be stressed and run into problems. You are rigid in your thinking.

<I thought whether actions are moral or immoral function as truth claims, such that a moral action cannot be good or evil. What do you mean by moral greys?

>Let me think of an example...

<[this guy is probably thinking of some deontology vs consequentialism case] Perhaps the trolley problem?

>Eh... I'd try a more interesting one... Oh, the issue of legalizing the death penalty! I guess it's a boring example, but it deals with actions extreme enough to be interesting. If you permit the death penalty, presupposing that you support it and that it is okay, justice will be delivered to those eligible for the death penalty, but there may be people who are falsely accused who would be killed before being revealed innocent later. What do you think about the death penalty? In conversations like this, I try to let go of my biases and try to take a contrarian position to stimulate dialectic as it best supports my job as a therapist, so I will try to refute them.

[Me and two other people, being my father and my therapist's assistant came up with three different answers.]

∨I support the death penalty because it functions as a deterrent for people to commit crime

∧I don't think we should have the death penalty because what if the people get unfairly condemned?

<I am against it. All humans have intrinsic moral value and justice exists as an induction to prevent reoffence, thus emphasis on rehabilitation should also follow.

>Well then, you seem to have relied on the idea that life is sacred which is quite noble and is religiously influenced.  Assume there is a dangerous and evil person who kills, rapes and murders and is hypothetically or at least pragmatically unable to be rehabilitated. It seems animals do not know what is right or wrong. What do you do?

<That doesn't consider my point of intrinsic human value that exists in all humans in equal amount? It's best to lock him life in prison or solitary confinement. I don't get how animals do not have moral value.

>But where does the moral value come from? Your answer was a religious one, which does not translate as well to a secular context. 

<It is unknowable for non religious people to know where moral value comes from. All arguments that try to establish moral realism under at least atheistic presuppositions commit the is-ought fallacy as mentioned by David Hume.

>But proving that an argument for a particular proposition to not be a tautology does not disprove the proposition itself. You seem to be committing the fallacy fallacy. You are criticizing other cultures in the frame of your own culture, making it biased and only reveals part of the picture.

<I guess I concede on whether it is metaphysically impossible to prove moral realism cannot exist under secularism, but it is still unknowable. [I wasn't thinking at my best, especially since this happened in a verbal rather than a text-based conversation]

>[going on a (rhetorical) tangent on his epistemic views] We cannot be absolutely certain on any of our ideas because you will end up being rigid and dogmatic, like your black and white views. We must evaluate what we think and not treat one source of information as absolutely true. Sigmund Freud had a lot of interesting ideas, but some were insane and absurd. You cannot treat any human being like Plato as infallibly perfect.

<It would be heresy for me to think Jesus Christ said at least one thing wrong. 

>Perhaps, but everything that we claim to be objective is subjective, and by treating an idea as objectively true will cause you to limit yourself from viewing in other perspectives. You do have many weaknesses that you would like to work on, but philosophy certainly is not one of them. Try to think of a proposition that everybody agrees on.

<There is no proposition that everybody agrees on. Not even the idea that the material world exists.

>If no one agrees on anything, then it follows that there is no objective truth.

<What do you mean by that? 

Since the session was ending by then, I wasn't able to have him elaborate on the idea as he had to go. I showed him what non classical fuzzy logic is since he mentioned that I should start seeing things in spectrums.

I was taking shower, so it took long whoops
>>59789
huh interesting. time is contingent on the movement of physical objects and is not a metaphysical entity.
I associated b theory before knowing the term b theory with God because I imagined him to be an infinite archive of reality
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Immanuel Kant is the 18th century gigachad. Got it!
>>59810
huh?

>>59807
how... how tf did you find such an awesome therapist?
>>59807
ok, looking at this guy a little more, he might not be quite as epic as i initially believed, but still an interesting interlocutor.

<It is unknowable for non religious people to know where moral value comes from. All arguments that try to establish moral realism under at least atheistic presuppositions commit the is-ought fallacy as mentioned by David Hume.

>But proving that an argument for a particular proposition to not be a tautology does not disprove the proposition itself. You seem to be committing the fallacy fallacy. You are criticizing other cultures in the frame of your own culture, making it biased and only reveals part of the picture.

I don't think you committed the fallacy fallacy here, idk what made your therapist believe this.

>[going on a (rhetorical) tangent on his epistemic views] We cannot be absolutely certain on any of our ideas because you will end up being rigid and dogmatic, like your black and white views. We must evaluate what we think and not treat one source of information as absolutely true. Sigmund Freud had a lot of interesting ideas, but some were insane and absurd. You cannot treat any human being like Plato as infallibly perfect.

me no understand the trilemma

>If no one agrees on anything, then it follows that there is no objective truth.

is he a nihilist?
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>>59836
also you can terminate into circularity, which is preferrable, since you can terminate with some self-evident proposition which is not exactly "dogmatic."
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>>59836
Perhaps I did not flesh this out enough; he seemed like he had an intuitive understanding of the trilemma
>>59837
i though self evident propositions were dogmatic
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but collectively understood
>>59854
self evident is literally circular
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>>59860
so self evident propositions are just true because it is "known intuitively?"
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wait, so you meant that self-evident propositions are known as true by understanding the meaning of the proposition itself? like how all bachelors are unmarried
>>59869
ok, i reexamined my position, and I misunderstood "axiom" I guess. It was defined to me as a self-evident statement, but that is only partially true, since axiomization is how a truth can be "self-evident." Axioms are dogmatic assumptions, but some such as non-contradiction are asserted because without them, systems such as logic fall apart as evidenced by ECQ.

When I say circularity, I don't mean a circular argument, I mean a self-evident truth, which is circular by definition. I wouldn't call your example a self-evident truth, since it is only true conventionally; it is merely two ways of expressing the same category: a man who is unmarried a.k.a. U(m).

However, I think that LNC would ultimately terminate into circularity, since LNC exists in order to maintain the coherence of logic.

... actually maybe not. I think you might right and I might be wrong: from Godel's Incompleteness Theorems, there exists a statement within any sufficiently complex formal system that cannot be proven, and a system cannot prove its own consistency. Both of these notions represent that a system is not circular, but dogmatic.

However, then empiricism, with its circular premises, can be used to verify what systems reflect the real world and can therefore be considered consistent. Do you think empiricism is an appropriate Munchhausen termination (as in, it is the terminus in the regression of an argument)?
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>>59885
>Do you think empiricism is an appropriate Munchhausen termination (as in, it is the terminus in the regression of an argument)?
unless ofc its something that isn't physical, like a social system such as a government, then its pragmatism per my argument on the matter:

All social systems are subject to my epistemic argument of systematic pragmatism:
*The argument, in P#: [informal proposition; formal proposition] form, states:*
P1: All systems have a goal (my use of "system" is clarified above); ∀xS(x) (S(x) → G(x))
P2: The existence of any system is, at the very least, justified by its goal. This suggests that the goal of a system is the only universal property that can be used for epistemology and justification for formulating propositions within the system; P [im atomizing because writing the predicate logic notation is unnecessary]
P3: If a goal is the only property that can justify *all* systems, then it is the most reliable property of a system to build an epistemology upon; P→ Q
Conclusion: By Modus Ponens from P1-P3, the goal of a system is the most reliable property to build an epistemology upon; Q

(i just copy and pasted the text from discord, sorry if it looks strange)
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imma eat bekfast now, brb
but overall, seems like a wonderful therapist. i assume your summary doesnt do him justice
>>59807
∨I support the death penalty because it functions as a deterrent for people to commit crime

∧I don't think we should have the death penalty because what if the people get unfairly condemned?

can you also clarify exactly what that and and or symbols are meant to indicate here
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>>59916
oh wait theyre just to indicate the third and 4th people in a dialogue
>>59807
your dad was blue, and the assistant was purple btw
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I'm done with the logic book
the only use I would still have for it is definitions
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>>59923
ya true
hey hey
how was ur day
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>>59886
pragmatism///
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>>59985
could be better, I was finishing this video https://youtu.be/bLV2HX4rQ5A[Embed]
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>>59987
wild title
>>59986
what does /// mean
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>>59990
nothing
geg alr
so did you like teach your therapist about philosophical things, or does he also think about this stuff
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>>59993
I did not teach much, he did have an interest, with him also being into politics but I think had other things to do. he said he was excited to meet a person who's also into this stuff whilst being good faith
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he wasn't familiar with classical and non classical logic
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>>59995
oh, thats very fortunate of u. were you actively looking for someone like that, or got lucky
I got lucky
>>59996
you better make an avali get for 60000 btw
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YIS
Gg
"you cant just say get and post nothing"
-meathook marty
>>60003
jeethook jarty...
shithook sharty
that one was terrible sorry
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swinhook swinny
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>>60006
it wasn't, that's good
>>60007
*swedehook swinny
Based off my skim through the predicate part of the logic book, it seems like an instantiation (whether it is existential or universal) must precede a generalization within a deductive sequence. I need to verify this, but that's the only way that a generalization can be made coherently, at least in how I see it.

The only way that we can derive a universal or existential quantifier purely by itself is through the following

∀xP(x) <---> P(a) ∧ P(b) ∧ ... ∧ P(n)
∃xP(x) <---> P(a) ∨ P(b) ∨ ... ∨ P(n)

From the above biconditionals, if we have one then we have the other. So then if we have the proposition to the right of the double arrow, we can introduce a universal or existential quantifier.
In the logic book, "introduction" is the same as "generalization," and "elimination" is the same as instantiation." This is because when we perform a generalization, we are going from a proposition that does not have a quantifier, to one that does have one, and the vice versa for an instantiation.

So then from this, I think my aforementioned observation is correct, since the universal generalization inference just seems inconsistent otherwise.

Idk, the definition of "arbitrary" is vaguely and diversely defined everywhere that I inquire about its meaning.
Albeit existential generalization seems logically coherent without a preceding instantiation:
if we have P(c) where c is within the domain of x, then it logically follows that there exists an x such that x is P
Universal generalization seems to be the bane of my existence at the moment
this is kinda reminding me about how p -> q is still true if p is false and q is true
that combination was the only confusing one of the four. similarly, UG seems to be the only inference here that does not intuitively make sense
>>59955
I have a project ahahahaha but its honors history so it's not too bad
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>>60016
what are you doing the project on
assigned or elective
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>>60017
assigned
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>>60018
what is the project on
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>>60020
we randomly picked a cold war topic, and i got the nuclear arms race
why is russia lowkey always acting like they on crack
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I make 8 slides that look like this, and I get information from the web
this is one of the two assignments that has a test grade this quarter, though I would prefer something like an argument essay on an issue relating to the cold war
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>>60026
ofc you would prefer something argumentative
do you plan on taking AP Language next year? Its basically goo goo gaa gaa compared to our current knowledge
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>>60027
no, but I should look into that
ap lit?
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>>60029
ap lit and ap lang are two different classes
lang is centered around rhetoric, and lit is self-explanatory
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I took both of them as a senior because i did NOT wanna take lang when i was a junior for some reason
>>60030
oh wait yeah
I should alongside with ap physics
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>>60033
ap physics is a rough class, gotta tell ya, but you can 100% do it
i challenga ya to get a 5 like i did when i was a junior
one of the top five students in my 600 student class got a 4 on it geg
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>>60035
600 student class?
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>>60036
yes, public school with around 2500 students
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>>60038
thats cope lmao
as someone who got a 3, minimal effort isnt even a requirement. all you gotta do is be able to write half-decent essays and just guess on the multiple-choice section
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>>60036
my sister's current junior class is a little bigger. its closer to 700, and she was 9th last semester. i dont know what her rank is at the moment.
>>60039
and an AP class is above high honors, which means it should have been still "difficult" for the average person. it shocks me that there is a level below honors, it's depressing. I asked the breakfast question to a student once in that level and they failed it
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I asked my honors calc teacher about the proof of the chain rule, but she responded that I did not need to know the proof and only demonstrated that all differentiations presuppose the power rule such that d/dx x^2 = 2x * 1
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>>60042
... holy
education has just become braindead or something. like if you were like me, who sucked up my feelings while i was at school and saved it for when i was at home, you were academically fine. all you have to do is just be there, and do what youre told, and you do "relatively" fine. But thats not sufficient; you don;t learn anything, because after elementary school, education is more about conformity than learning. That was why I stopped taking base-level courses.
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>>60043
inquire about it independently, resist the anti-intellectualism
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>>60044
college board does suck ass, but the courses I took were amazing preparation for college. I knew what mentality I needed to be in in order to succeed, and the courses were not friendly either, they were very demanding, especially AP chem and AP phys 1 in my junior year. I took 4 APs as a junior, and 6 as a senior, but I can confidently say that my junior year was more stressful. My 6 APs were more balanced and manageable. AP chem and AP physics as compared to everything else is like comparing meth to caffiene
>>60043
I believe that my AP Calc class DID go over the proof of the chain rule, but I do not recall
>>60044
I assume most of the grades in physics seems to be based off of following directions, where you list all givens and write down formulas. it's not as much about understanding, but I guess putting the effort to show your work reminds you of certain variables in physics, helping you understand it better I guess
>>60045
I watched a Khan academy video about it
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We should have someone reform the curriculums; 5.6 percent of the US budget is spent on education
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>>60048
what you described is basic deduction skills, (listing givens/premises and coming to an appropriate answer/conclusion based off the premises) which is very much important, but undermines real understanding. AP physics hss a lot of qualitative-quantitative reasoning, which requires a deep understanding if the concepts.
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>>60049
absolutely, but old white men do not know the variables that produce leadership and tenacity in the youth, hence they waste their money on counterproductive bullshit
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>>60051
ah, I was enrolled in much harder classes but i'm not sure how much of the school work is just about demonstrating understanding rather than evaluating
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>>60052
petition to ratify the 28th amendment to have an age limit on presidents
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>>60054
Not just presidents. Congressmen too. Especially senators
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>>60053
thats whats hard about ap physics and chem, they are conceptual while keeping memorization low, which is what is rarely valued within modern education

>>60054
yes please
>>60000
why's it a thumbnail
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da
every time I hear my father speak about or presuppose his normative/metaethical views, I cringe so hard. it sounds like he is a legal positivist as when Muhammad married with Aisha, it is somehow moral because I gotta hecking consider the cultural context and I will somehow realize it if I get older
>>60055
And that too
>>60057
I'm on a school Chromebook, far too many sites are blocked so I can't find the full image
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>>60059
he speaks so much about the rule of law when he talks about politics
holy fuck watching all these incels on CNN and other rainbowtard comments sections tryna shit on ICE pisses me off so hard
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ICE agents are also LEOs just like cops man 💔
these ppl tryna say "how woupd you feel if an officer acted this way towards people" when officers literally use the exact same condict because thats what theyre all trained to do.
>>60061
but does lesbian couple incident need a shooting? I don't think it is necessarily anti LGBTQ bias and rather a lack of trigger discipline since I assume he can just shoot the tires but who am I to judge when I am unfamiliar with what constitutes as good police conduct?
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I drew this in June 2024
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>>60067
gem
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Is it me, or does traditional art look less impressive than digital art in the same quality? I guess it's just me being much better at traditional than digital. repost picrel btw art not made by me
>>60066
you have to put ypurself in the shoes of the ICE agent. did you see the shooter's POV? he was actively being struck by the vehicle when he fired. he also drew his weapon as soon as the tired of the vehicle started moving, since he was right in the way. I recognize rhat "he should have just ran out of the way" is a somewhat valid point.

also discharging a firearm to disable a suspects vehicle is very reckless and should only be fone if the suspect poses a threat to others. its similar to the "just shoot them in the legs" argument
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>>60072
I think I did see the shooter's pov, but I assumed that there wasn't enough distance for the car to accelerate. gotta recheck
and accprding to Tennessee vs. Garner, a fleeing suspect can be shot if they pose an immediate risk to others. Renee was very clewrly attempting to flee, but she posed an immediate risk to the ICE agent as he was being stuck, so a shooting was jistified.
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>>60074
yeah, that makes sense. clearly, the lesbian was hostile
https://youtu.be/UE_DN8fCcr8?si=mmjMOujzfWwP8Uj7[Embed]
a lil graphic, but this is similar and wouldnt you consider this shooting justified?
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>>60076
I can't watch it because it is age restricted on my chromebook
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nvm found the file posted in wikimedia
>>60077
ugh
basically this retarded mexican and his retarded mexican friends got busted for being under the influence in public, one of the guys tries to escape and unintentionally runs over his friend who was detained and seated behind the car. as he was actively running iver his friend, the officers opened fire which killed the retarded mexican.
the ice agent was reported to have internal bleeding from the crash
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>>60080
ah, was not aware of his injuries
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>>60081
read this from the Wikipedia article https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-officer-who-shot-renee-good-internal-injuries-sources-say/ this is one of the two citations
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>>60082
I can't wait to see what kind of ad hoc fallacy the woke sjws are going to do on this one
>>60066
I keep up to date with police stuff a lot so I know quite a bit about proper police conduct
the only unfortunate thing tho is that a lot of instances of misconduct do not result in punishment
Drug addicts behave like something else man, I have some homeless people sitting around my church, which they serve and I certainly do not trust them. One passed from overdose in front of the church door recently
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>>60088
you gotta get some narcan dude
is it opioids or something else
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>>60090
I don't know, should have asked more about the incident
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>>60093
its usually opioids; those are incredibly easy to overdose on, and even when youre using another drug, it may be laced with fentanyl. It is very easy to access narcan anywhere in the us, you should get even just one package in case you run into someone overdosing, since it sounds to be a problem whee you live. Also narcan doesnt actually stop an overdose, since opiods last a lot longer than narcan. You administer the narcan, and then get an ambulance immediately while performing CPR.
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If you just give then narcan, theyre gonna go back into an overdosing state 30 min later
>>60094
ah, interesting advice
genuonely who in the us even uses coke or amphetamines anymore
everyone is abusing opiods these days
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>>60097
who knew? I haven't kept track of this
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I don't like politics because I assumed I only had biased news sources which made it unnecessarily hard to discern what is true, but I should have considered video footage to exist
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>>60099
i was exaggerating, but opioids have been rampant especially with synthetic ones like fent
lile nigga, if you touch a small pile of fent witb your bare hands, the amount of substance that would diffuse through your skin into your blood is lethal

>>60100
"bias" is kinda misleading. what really matters is framing. CNN is very dishonest with how they frame their news reports.
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Hot take: the Minnesota flag change wasn't bad or mediocre, the 8 painted star, usage of two different shades of blue, and the shape that roughly represents the shape of Minnesota are not very common in flags.
>>60102
is the only difference really just framing between mainstream news reports?
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>>60102
bias is moreso "what is this media outlet ommitting?" while framing is "how is this media outlet manipulating the story to fit their agenda?"
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>>60105
i would consider that the most significant thing. that is by far the easiest way to push a specific narrative.
>>60108
ah
>>60076
Are his hands okay?
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>>60112
i beg your pardon?
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>>60113
I was referring to the first guy pulled over, who was ran over by the car
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>>60114
he was injured but wasnt seriously hurt iirc. in the video his limbs seemed to get squished a little and his back was defibitely nicked by the tires to a point where is may have given him a friction burn
sucks that u cant see them
https://youtu.be/6TxrHEuZqQs?si=5x4d342o-xz-Ksil[Embed]
are you able to view this one? it doesnt have a mature rating
another le hekkin shooting protected by tennessee vs garner or smth
im jist tryna figure out what type of content your school is blocking
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>>60074
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>>60124
b-b-based?
>>60119
suspect in this vid was shot in the lower spine btw. lost control of his legs
>>60119
I can see it and the wounds look surviveable
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>>60128
ah, so your school is only blocking mature-rated content
and yea that suspect lived. from what ive seen over the years, about 2/3rd of the shootings on this channel are fatal. somewhere around that rate.
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>>60119
>I wasn't gon do nothing
Kid you were holding the woman at gunpoint pls
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>>60130
interesting. so most of the fatal shootings were at the ribs?
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>>60131
i promise i wont spam more of these videos? but you pointing this out reminded me of another recent video
https://youtu.be/dgWL1C5V0xQ?si=8hzIRqbNHkc9UmIj[Embed]
just listen closesly, lmao
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sorry, clicked ? instead of a comma
>>60133
well, a shor anywhere can be fatal, but usually a shot to the upper torso or the head is how fatal shootings come to be. I have also seen ONE where a shot to the leg killed the suspect.
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>>60134
>put your hands up
<I got no hands
What
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>>60137
he indeed had hands
>>60136
one can apply to tourniquet to a limb, so those gunshot woulds are rarely fatal. the only time i swe it happen was when the suspect killed the officer, but got shot in the leg, and bled to dearh ay the scene.
not long ago, when I was walking home from wrestling practice at school, I went past an anti ICE protest in front of the city hall
one had a sign saying "hot girls against fascists"
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>>60144
oh please, im sure the women there were mostly virgins and averaged 250 pounds
https://youtu.be/g69cW_Xt4EM?si=irg6JJ5amMCoZABF[Embed]
Nu' DIA
>>60003
it's troo
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>>60067
I don't get it though
He fucking dead or something?
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>>60152
i defied it doebeit
you can just say post and get nothing
>>60192
he died btw
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>>60207
Why is he dead btw
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>>60208
the e6 mascot got impaled
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>>60209
Oh. Ahh I get it now.
damnit, i lost the wordle today because it went down to luck. i had everything correct except for the middle letter, and there were like 4 or 5 different possible words ughhhhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emUHY8B136M&t=30s[Embed]

black people cannot turning every place that they go into a warzone
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I'm writing and formalizing my variant of Kant's metaethics
it vvill be done by Sunday hopefully
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>>60218
can't wait to see how you implement the deontic collapse
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>>60215
nonsense
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>>60220
sorry, I accidentally omitted "stop" between "cannot turning"
>>60220
the first part establishes the possibility of non-natural truths; the Apostle's Creed is axiomatically a true doxastic (non-natural) statement for a Christian, so then I can conclude through an unreasonable long sequence that it is possible for doxastic propositions to exist.

I'm going to integrate the deontic collapse not simply to appeal to a low level of moral development (altho that is necessary since there are people that do not care about moral assertions), but to point out that, when we are making a moral assertion, we are asserting some non-natural fact should translate to the real world, and we are contradicting ourselves if we do not strive towards making it a reality, Since we know that there are people that do not care about morality, we would contradict ourselves if we were to not prevent those people from doing immoral things.

I'm kinda stuck with some of the justifications, especially justifying my definition of morality. My idea is affirming both Kant's idea that moral facts can be asserted by rational beings, and that the assertions these rational beings make seem to almost exclusively fit my definition, and that any assertion that argues otherwise collapses the functionality of morals.
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>>60223
>so then I can conclude through an unreasonable long sequence that it is possible for doxastic propositions to exist.

remove "doxastic," replace with "non-natural"
Acerdius, tell me how many of these you got correct
https://youtube.com/shorts/UR8PKSjhWFI?si=Qgp_0DxPQGs5IPFJ[Embed]
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I got 5/6 but I still 100% stand by the incorrect answer i gave
>>60225
as a man with autemit, I got 6/6
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>>60228
good jobbo
the only one i don't understand is the tentative one. it looks more positive and grateful than anything else. i dont see any form of hesitation/skepticism in that one
youre the aryan autist
deez nuts
i love this censorship
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wait they changed it geg
its not gay retarded nigger gooner website or whatever combination of those words it was
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it's been 3 weeks and my honors calc teacher hasn't moved past the chain rule since she started it. she is spending the time giving instructions on inferences that one would intuitively understand like implementing the product or quotient rule with the chain rule. at least get started with the inverse and implicit functions pls
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>>60235
test
deez nuts
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>>60242
Ha! Gotem!
Wordle 1,672 X/6

⬜🟩⬜⬜🟨
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
dude what is my luck
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>>60245
reminds me of that one person from CFF
>>60241
holy shit. we spent, like, two lectures on the chain rule, ans we did two since its harder to understand.
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>>60247
wordle is luck based atp
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>>60248
somewhat
one of my guesses was raped btw geg
>>60241
I think imma spend some time to fully relearn calc and maybe autodidact calc 2 during my 120 hrs experiential course in the summer
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>>60250
do it, I have a quick study pamphlet that maps the first half of calculus
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>>60251
>first half of calculus
you mean the first half of calc 1, or calc 1 itself? (as in, calc 1 and calc 2 are "halves")
also, is this digital? i might just do it on monday since i dont have school lol
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>>60252
calc 1, physical
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i would save learning calc 2 for summer then, i dont wanna get myself into such a rabbit hole
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>>60254
keep your head up for theology
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>>60253
how large is it. i threw out my ap calc notes back in august
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>>60256
it has 6 pages, but its technically 4 since limits start somewhere in page 3,
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>>60255
instead of getting into theology rabbit hole, imma read all of the New Testament during this semester (3 chapters per day) so theology is easier to understand in the summer
>>60257
oh, so the first 2 pages are algebra 2 and precalc
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>>60258
yeah ok. I guess reading the new testament is a better idea
Old Testament is gonna be put off for some other time
3 more books in the gospels to go
Nice!
https://bibleproject.com/guides/book-of-mark going over this as a breif overview
>>60257
i would ask u to take photos and send via text, but there may be some videos on yt that are specifically for quickly relearning calc 1
most informational content on youtube is better for relearning rather than learning imo
some things like 3-dimensional integrals would be very simple to infer, just gotta recall the specifics

i also do not recall the second limit definition of a derivative
i know that definition 1 is lim x->h [(f(x+h)-f(x))/h]but what was the second one? it uses a as a constant iirc.
wait, i dont think i wrote that limit right
as h approached zero, not as x approaches h
thats what was wrong
the second definition is a limit as x approaches a
lim x->a [(f(x)-f(a))/(x-a)]
correct?
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a notable dichotomy from the Bible review video was that being 
>>60272
lim h->0 [(f(x+h)-f(x))/(h)]
I think it's this
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>>60275
yeah, i corrected myself, I was merging both of the limit definitions together
>a notable dichotomy from the Bible review video was that being 
elaborate
>>60275
wait i did not finish the first part of the post. the dichotomy was about the people's perception of the kingdom of Christ and what being part of Jesus Christ's kingdom actually is. people when they haven't figured out what the Messiah meant perceived that being part of Christ's kingdom meant worldly success and taking back Rome, but it really meant you must be prepared to face worldly suffering and hate like how 11 out of the 12 apostles were executed by following Christ's orders
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ok
>>60279
reminds me back in 8th grade where I wasn't able to find a ground for what constitutes meaning in life or what I saw as "purpose" as a fundamental ethical hinge for my actions. I think I foresaw circularity at the time
there is no stable ground on what constitutes as good, so you can't prove how worldly success is good without the context of God
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>>60283
it would be purely subjective and arbitrary
so they take the third option past despairing or chasing superficiality, choosing self-sacrifice
and then you have nietzsche who just goes into pure copium addressing this problem
laughable tbh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsQQvHm4lSw[Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfACrKJ_Y2w[Embed]
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o algo
>>60286
he make me geg
I don't get the meaning of art. self-expression does not sound sufficiently feasible as there isn't a moral ground for it, which goes against intuition
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>>60290
how does art have anything to do with morality
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>>60291
that it's simply good to make art in of itself
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>>60292
its neutral. it doesn't have inherent value outside of contributing to human wellbeing
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>>60291 just let go of your interpretation of the best case scenario for constructed secular morality
>>60293 it's good if it contributes to human well being. without it being good, it is pointless to make art
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>>60294
>just let go of your interpretation of the best case scenario for constructed secular morality
in class rn, please be a little clearer in what u mean
>it's good if it contributes to human well being. without it being good, it is pointless to make art
seems more like a vacuous statement given that i argued that it is in fact wholistically good
Native Americans are getting detained by ICE and contradicting the Indian citizenship act of 1924 apparently
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>>60302
man, gotta admit that they are being very unprofessional relative to normal LEOs
also what did u mean when u said "just let go of your interpretation of the best-case scenario for constructed secular morality"
are u telling me to go towards nihilism in the secular presupposition?
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>>60304
I was telling you to assume your Christian moral framework that you normally use even though you don't understand a lot about it
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>>60305
okie
altho i would say my definition of morality could be an extension or elaboration to Christian ethics; i would say that the Bible's assertions are an attempt to describe the optimal life via commandments
and thats not to say that im using a liberal, universalist, or "the Bible is symbolic" interpretation here
as in, its not *only* that they are commandments that you ought to follow, but that they lead to a fulfilling life
>>60302
brown people should be arrested just for being brown
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>>60316
real
>>60003
>40000
never forget
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shit
>>40000
never forget
im tarded geg
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archived award
>>60426
>>60427
>GET
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>>60433
mocking me for not knowing how gets work and trying my best geg
u forgot to name urself nveot dumbass
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GET
in other nose, holy shit the an foo is such a gooner cess pool
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omg theres so much hmofa here i wanna kms
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>>60437
I did not want to impersonate but whatever
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>>60446
u were tryna tho
also apparently ivodeltarune is learning logic and boolean algebra in his programming class
maybe he could become one of us after all!
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>>60453
>2sd to philosophy pipeline
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>>60455
unintentional greentext award
all roads lead to rome and all romes lead to a road o algo
>>60443
or rather, just suggestive slop
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>>60461
their use of spoilers is so arbitrary pls
>>60442
>in other nose, holy shit the an foo is such a gooner cess pool
>omg theres so much hmofa here i wanna kms
Grass is green. Anyways enjoy my website it's better.
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>>60465
agreed kxng lachy
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>>60465
who knew obv the favicon needed to be different as to avoid falseflagging
>>60455
trent is probs one of the only ones that wont go down the pipeline
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>>60466
Call me... King voo...
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>>60471
agreed king voo*
I imagined mikkocord to be the middle ground between here and that other foo
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>>60476
theyre more deez nuts tbh. theyre all hmofa cucks
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>>60480
Hah. Goteem.
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>>60481
>>60232
as you can see, i already knew about this
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>>60483
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>>60484
is that supposed to be the vine boom sound effect distorted beyond recognition?
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>>60486
evidently so
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Hey nveot... Did something come in the mail today?
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>>60491
yes, a rigged pipe bomb... thank God I no longer have to deal with my youngest brother after your help!
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>>60497
HAH! G- wait wh
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>>60499
DEEZ NUTZ
ok i revisited the rules of differentiation, and i remembered all of them except the chain rule (i didnt memorize the tan, cot, sec, and csc ones because you can derive them from the quotient rule)

however one thing is confusing me and im tryna figure it out here
with the chain rule, what dk we do if we have three functions such that f(g(h(x)))? do we work from the outside in or vide versa?
ths chain rule states: [f(g(x))]' = f'(g(x)) * g'(x)
so then, does [f(g(h(x)))]' = f'(g(h(x))) * g'(h(x)) * h'(x) ?
i remember that this stumped me when i learned this in ap calc, but i believe thats how its solved?
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>>60554
the chain rule is the rule of all time
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Would you rather meet Ted Kaczynski or Nick Land?
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>>60556
Ted would be a good teacher methinks.
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>>60556
ive never heard of nick land, gotta be honest. his brief wikipedia page makes me think less of him than ted tbh, albeit ted was absolutely schizo. neither of them man 😭

>>60557
he worked as a professor at multiple universities and his students reportedly hated him as a teacher
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>>60558
>his students reportedly hated him as a teacher
oh
lo
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>>60559
he was socially inept, he had the smarts but was not fit to teach ppl
>>60555
can u explain the proof of the chain rule
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>>60561
I don knwo sorry im lazy
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>>60565
i will execute you (j.k. imma watch a proof on the product, quotient, and chain rules because im flying thru this video geg)
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>>60566
I'm on the philosophyball wiki and I finished reading the anti civ page because I was bored
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>>60568
is anti-civ even possible with a pop of 8+ billion
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>>60569
if you let 99.9% of the 8 billion die, maybe
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wait u substitution might get me
thats a hard one to understand
>>60571
if anti-civ were to happen with a pop of 8 billion, at least 95% of them are dying, so yea
I'm now on the critical theory page
and imma keep watching calc 1 stuff till like 1030 or 11 so cya tmr probably
oi
hi
i never wake up feeling well rested anymore
also trent uploaded two videos and they are geneuinely so unfunny i didnt even bother commenting 💔
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yknow what nvm, i commented smth sarcastic
i had a little bit of coffee before i went to bed again and im wondering why i dont feel well rested. i cause my own problems geg
oh wait all of the proofs of those calculus rules are just writing down its limit definition and manipulating it geg ez shit
>>60673
I think I slept 7.5 hours today
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>>60757
hi
i looked back at aluzkys debates and he only wins because he manages to write 500 pages per sentence that he engages in a dialectic with
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>>60759
he takes everything one says literally
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>>60774
i believe him when he says hes +2 to +2.5 sd. I simply think its the case that
1. he is ESL, so sometimes he doesnt know whether a word is slang or not
2. he occasionally drops the act and properly infers what someone is saying; a.k.a. he is being dishonest and bad faith
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>>60775
or maybe he has severe autemit
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don't you think coverage like this is dismissive?
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>>60776
i dont think so
>>60777
on purpose, yes
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>>60779
sncapedia is very biased, but I guess that is the spirit of the soysphere
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>>60780
noone trying to give actual coverage of an internet figure would fo it this way
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>>60781
I don't think refuting leftists would be as easy as the wiki editors assume it to be
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>>60809
you mean right wingers? (not leftists)?
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how has your day been so far btw
BTW I wanna make the next thread because i have some ideas
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https://builds.openlogicproject.org/
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>>60815
no, I was referring to the people taxed brass was refuting in the page, I don't think most of the wiki editors are philosophically literate enough to articulate a good refutation
>>60817
go right ahead
>>60820
NO WAY!
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>>60825
this probably covers everything up to early graduate level content in philosophy and pure maths i presume
i literally might just stay up all night and read ts
chatgpt gave it to me btw
AI is good for accessing free resources o algo
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>>60829
ai is a glorified search engine Gg
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>>60831
its better than google and big for sure doebeit
if i study logic beforehand, am i able to get ahead by taking harder classes in philosophy?
as in jumping courses
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>>60836
im not too sure if it works like that
when i was in undergrad, we had testing to determine where our literacy and mathematics levels were at, but that was for GE
and it wasnt for skipping courses, it was to determine what GE course you should be placed in
the other logic book i had wasn't information dense and prioritized explaining logic to make sense for cacas over information density
>>60820
Holy hell the table of contents for the complete document is 20 pages long
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>>60843
I love that implication at the end lol
anyways, ill make the new post tomorrow and im gonna stop being on this current thread, because its slowing my computer down
ok
>>61036
nu thread
lachy archive pls
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