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>>2325407 (OP)
ahem, my probelm with these is that they're turned based. that's why im cautiously optimistic about pic rel

Problem is that they become too turbo autistic to enjoy

They need someone who is completely free to keep up with all the variables and details in the game

I don't typically like wargames. They're actually puzzle games in disguise. Unless they have a random scenario generator.

I enjoyed WitE2, but it has a massive problem… the AI gets unlimited movement. This means that it will always be forming crazy unrealistic defense lines. You’ll get naval infantry units that were in Leningrad way down in the southern Steppes. That’s just a silly result, but the gameplay result is extremely frustrating. If you don’t encircle, during the AI turn the unit will magically teleport hundreds/thousand+ miles away. This happens en masse and it happens every single turn (does not apply to encircled/isolated units).

It’s a crutch for the AI, but these games are supposed to be about realism, detail, etc. kinda defeats the point of wrestling with all this shit if the AI is going to get cute like that.

There are fun hex and counters out there that don’t pretend to be hyper realistic. I enjoy the unity of command series (puzzle game comment valid here) and panzer general is always king.

The field of glory games are solid as well.

>>2325475
>Problem is that they become too turbo autistic to enjoy
this. there's too much shit on the board, and every little piece of shit unit has 100 different statistics attached to it.
it takes just as much if not more brainpower to play chess, but chess doesn't clutter up the screen with a million numbers

>>2325678
To me it's honestly unbelievable that they thought it was OK to release and then not resolve the AI problem. If at least the Soviet AI can't win fairly with the same tools as a player, it is not ready to be played. I REALLY want to like WiTE2, and the effort put in and immersion is really something special, so it's so disappointing and basically unplayable for me that it can't behave realistically. I wonder if the scenarios are better than the main campaign because of their limited scope...

>>2325407 (OP)
>boomer wargames
are played on a tabletop, kid

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>>2325407 (OP)
Ive had a lot of fun with Second Front. Its basically just Advanced Squad Leader but its been a good time regardless.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1148490/Second_Front/

>>2325407 (OP)
shadow empire is about the only one I've found that's fine

>>2325407 (OP)
all the good H&C games are tabletop/vassal/TTS only.

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>>2326266
>stands in your general direction

Is Scourge of War remaster good?

>>2325415
that gameplay concept but at a slightly larger scale and focused on the Schlieffen plan would go very hard

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>>2326970
>Moltke the Younger simulator
could be kino