Warthunder Suggestion - Emil Tank
The Emil tank or the Kranvagn was a direct response by Sweden against the Soviet IS series of heavy tanks. It was equipped with a 105mm gun and was pretty mobile for a heavy tank. About 2 units were built but later scrapped in favor of other tank projects that Sweden had at the time. A battle rating of 8.0 to 8.7 could work for the tank. Could be a great addition since the only real heavy tank that Sweden currently has is the Kungstiger which is just a Porsche Tiger II given to Sweden by the French. Let me know what are your suggestions and if you agree.
It was never built.
2 hulls were built, the turret wasnt even fully designed, it never had a 105, it was planned to have a 150mm gun with a quick autoloader but again the turret was never developed further than this mockup.
So no, its pretth much a paper tank. Never truly left the drawingboard.
Imo the Kungstiger already shouldnt have been added, it was a literal rangetarget to test weapons against.
Id love paper tanks x10 more than oh look it's the 5th nation with a t72
And everybody gets a Sherman
Kronshstadt is in the game and it never even got close to being finished. There is no argument against adding these tanks
Logic for adding warships is different. The rule is if it was laid down, it gets to be added in its intended completed form - it won't just benefit Russia either, as this gives leeway for the United States and Germany to get Montana and the H-42 class battleships so the Imperial Japanese Navy doesn't dominate top battleship tier with Yamato and Musashi.
Yeah and unlike the kungstiger this thing is actually pretty unique, it should definetly get added, despite looking identical to the Surblinde it was very different.
500, 665 or 800 hp engines, 105mm, 120mm or 150mm gun. 30-41 tons between the different configurations, as far as i know they didnt fire solid shot but heat instead, also the wierd prototype ammo that was a combination of HEAT and APDS
Your second part is a good reason for not adding it. We basically know no exact stats of this tank and it would be a wild guessing game which would basically result in a weird mish mash of a vehicle.
"Hulls were built": so.... more IRL than Ho-ri, R2Y2s, and F-16AJs?
Gaijin would rather add 8 more variations of the Sherman, T-34s and Panzer series to each of the nations trees
I have a forum post about this thing that has been passed to developers. We just have to wait.
A couple of notes:
The prototypes built were not scrapped they still exist. Although one of them is an artillery piece now.
The cannon that got chosen was a 150mm not 105. The performance of the 105 was not good enough.
Thank you for the correction. I hope this gets added soon.
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Akv (Artillerikanonvagn) 151, Essentially a Bkan 1 but built by another company. The prototype is preserved at the swedish tank museum Arsenalen.
For anyone crying about it “being a paper tank” remember that next time you see gaijin adding the 200th modern vehicle we know nothing off because most of its characteristics are classified
The 2s38 that is not even in service and it's one of the most annoying premiums in the whole game cuz f it
That's almost as if they didn't give it a proper BR and it's undertiered?
Or the multiple tanks we have in game that were either only prototyped or at the most built out of wood as a mockup, or even the tanks that were built yet saw no service, it’s not crazy for Gaijin to add vehicles that never truly existed at this point 😂
Hot take but realistic paper vehicles are a potential avenue away from current copy paste hell. Obviously not WoT monstrosities but something like the VK16.02 or the SARL 42 would be kinda cool tbh
people who want a super realistic game should see how fun it is if repairing a track takes like multiple hours. Some compromises should be made in the interest of it being a game.
I agree, as long as the design and statistics are feasible there are so many potentially fun and unique vehicles down this avenue.
Kranvagn my beloved
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The Porsche Tiger II design was never completed and is not in War Thunder. Both Tiger II turrets were designed and built by Krupp.
As for the Kranvagn, I think Sweden deserve it just as the Japan deserve the O-I and China the WZ-111. All of these vehicles were partially built and that is Gaijins stated minimum standard and there are a huge number of partially built vehicles already in game.
Both of it's hulls even still exist! One was used to test suspension of the Strv 103 and the other was used as the basis for the Bandwagon prototype.
Interesting that every 6 months or so, this post comes up on the forums
Low-poly Surblindé
Last time I suggested this tank the same way you did I got a warning for recommending fictional tanks
Reset the clock.
I’d really like to see it but it isn’t real.
Play French instead.
It look like those French AMX-50
Think that’s what the Emil and Kranvagn were based off, but they were designed to be Heavy Tanks with bigger guns I believe
Originally, I assumed this to be one of the last avenues for Sweden to receive a heavy tank in the main tree. Recently however, it came to my attention that the Finns did in fact modify their KV-1B, which could be added as a separate vehicle under the premise of a "late" version.
would be great
I don't think this should be added. People are already against paper tanks. Imagine the outrage if the Ho-Ri was released tomorrow.
Also Sweden already has several vehicles that they shouldn't have.
They got a tiger 2 p because they bought one as a range target.
They got a T-80U because they considered using them and trialed a couple.
By this logic Sweden could also get a Leclerc and an M1A1 Abrams, since those were trialed as well.
This looks A LOT like the amx 50 🤨
I mean... Sweden already got a literal practice target and a bunch of vehicles/helicopters they just tested and never used or even adapted... can't see anything against adding this one...
Its cool seeing paper tanks in WT and see how they work in a realistic environment instead of WoT's arcade environment.
