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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.debian.org
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

>Which distro should I choose?
https://gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
https://nosystemd.org
>What are some cool programs?
https://suckless.org
>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://commandlinefu.com
>Where can I learn the command line?
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://fsf.org
>How to break out of the botnet?
https://eff.org
https://privacyguides.org
https://privacytools.io
https://prism-break.org

>Linux subreddits
https://reddit.com/r/linux
https://reddit.com/r/linuxquestions
https://reddit.com/r/linuxmemes
https://reddit.com/r/linux_gaming
https://reddit.com/r/suckless

>Alternatives for GNU/Linux operating systems
https://netbsd.org
https://openbsd.org
https://dragonflybsd.org
https://freebsd.org

GNU/Linux Games: >>>/vg/lgg
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Mac bro here, I've tried arch, kali, and fedora, and I gotta say, I like macOS a lot better. I'm on it right now and my virtual machines are in the corner collecting dust.
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is the "save-as/open..." interface on firefox changeable at all on linux? looks like shit
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>>107920405
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefox#XDG_Desktop_Portal_integration
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>>107920437
extremely based, thank you
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When my PC shuts down the systemd text goes all localhost, localhost, like 5 times over, is it bad or just systemd being systemd?

How many captchas of 1/3 do i have to do for single posts? I still cannot post threads and i have made 10 proper replies by now.
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>>107920155 (OP)
Anons, is there a way to use wine libraries to compile native linux executables?
Basically I want to use winapi but get an elf instead of an exe.
Because gtk is literal cancer (fuck you in particular, ebussy) and qt is meh.
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>>107920721
No. Probably Mono / .NET with C# is the closest you'll get to that.
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>>107920155 (OP)
you forgot a link OP:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Category:GNU/Linux
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Why doesn't FileZilla have drag and drop?
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Man this new Fedora update fucked everything up.
>FileZilla now takes forever to launch because it's taking over 9000 years to read locales
>Gwenview doesn't work at all
>Right clicking shit in Dolphin is slow
wtf were they thinking? Did they even test this shit?
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>>107921067
Gwenview has never worked right for me unless I run the Flatpak version of it which is what I do now. No idea why, although sandboxing an image viewer makes sense to me anyway.

If I compile it on my Gentoo system it always Krashes and freezes and it's the only KDE program that does that, everything else is fine. It's cursed.
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>finally get around the fopen error by placing redshift.conf inside of ~/.config instead of ~/.config/redshift
>piece of shit still complains about geoclue2 even though i set it to manual in the config file
Why does this have to be such a massive fucking headache? Gammastep is the exact same thing, no idea what is even different about it besides the name change.
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>>107921067
Stop updating your system all the time. Once a year update is more than enough.
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>>107921220
>>piece of shit still complains about geoclue2 even though i set it to manual in the config file
i had that too. from reading https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/geoclue/-/work_items/3 looks like it's about api thingy stuff. something like ratelimit.
the fix was too change the server backend on /etc/geoclue/geoclue.conf to one of this:
url=https://api.beacondb.net/v1/geolocate
url=https://api.positon.xyz/v1/geolocate?key=56aba903-ae67-4f26-919b-15288b44bda9
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>>107921464
Okay, somehow I managed to fix it by downloading the config sample file here https://github.com/jonls/redshift/blob/master/redshift.conf.sample and then opening my text editor and pasting THAT directly into the config folder (no subfolders) and it no longer throws any errors, I can finally launch the fucking redshift-qt applet and have it just work now. Good god why did that take me so long.

You have to copy it via text editor or else it will throw the malformed error due to blank spaces.
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for some reason my battery charge limit keeps getting reset on reboot, how can i make it persistent and apply as early on boot as possible? sadly theres no bios option to do so

>>107921067
works on my machine. sounds like it could a gpu / driver thing maybe
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>>107920155 (OP)
I use truenas scale with several apps (nextcloud, Jellyfin, Mealie, komga, etc.) hosted as docker containers on it.
Is there a lightweight directory service, I'm only familiar with Active Directory, that I can deploy in a container to have one account for several apps? Ideally I want to use the same directory service for my smb shares on truenas as well.
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>>107921067
>boot the previous kernel
>roll back to your last root snapshot
sooo hard
>Did they even test this shit?
Yeah but not that many people are running rawdog b/c it does shit like this every week.
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This is the default wallpaper in Lubuntu. AI generated slop. A simple minimal logo on a blue background would have been more effort than this. It just shows to me the Ubuntu flavours are stalling. Even the developer of Ubuntu MATE wants to focus on MATE in Debian.
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You cannot view screenshots in Synaptic Package Manager anymore on any distro because screenshots.debian.net switched from http to https. When do you think this will be fixed? It's been months.
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>>107921757
I'm not even using rawhide
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>>107920155 (OP)
What's the most straightforward way to block apt from favoring snap installs on ubuntu? Also would removing snapd completely fuck it up?
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>>107921835
Nah you're using nVidia. That's even worse.
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>>107920155 (OP)
I'm currently using Debian stable with a backports kernel and video drivers. For the most part, I don't see any issues, but I'm wondering what I'm missing by having outdated KDE and some things over time, such as a very out of date chromium browser. I don't trust unverified chromium browser flatpaks, although that is a solution. The official Firefox flatpak is verified, so that is an improvement, but dispreferred.

I have used Debian sid and testing in the past. I feel like sid was stable enough when I used it years ago, but its somehow less up to date than arch, while having more issues. Testing has problems linger for too long.

I'm looking at CachyOS and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for a desktop. Thoughts on these, or should I just stick with Debian?
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You warned me about it/g/
The meme distro named cachyos got an update and guess what, I can't boot anymore into it. Not even into snapshots. I get a spinny circle and if I press cancel it shows a start job is running for hold until boot process finishes up.
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>>107921983
>>107922119
Welp Tumbleweed it is then?
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>>107922119
should've used bazzite like you were told to instead of listening to that debian schizo who memes people into not using normie distributions that just work
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Come home, white man
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KDE is windows-like and Gnome is appleshit-style between all distros?
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>>107922191
No. There are many distros which theme both.
ZorinOS makes Gnome look like Windows 10/11, while Garuda makes KDE look like MacOS. Ubuntu uses their own GNOME style with the panel on the left side.
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>>107920155 (OP)
What are the differences in use/capabilities between kernels? ie generic, low-latency, and real time?
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>>107922119
If you don't even get the menu to select snapshots then it sounds like your bootloader got fucked. Boot with their live USB and reinstall it.
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>>107922230
But third party themes should work on all as long as I stick to either of the main groups?
i.e. https://store.kde.org/browse?cat=104&ord=latest after googling
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>>107921757
Yeah thank god I set snapshots up. It's all working fine now but Jesus man, I hope the next update doesn't screw things up again.
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which distro is best if i don't want to cut my penis off?
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>>107922300
They will work fine, it's still the same DE.

>>107922320
Secureblue.
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>>107922286
It depends on whatever the fuck was compiled. But the terms you mentioned are referring to scheduling. As in how the kernel assigns CPU time to the running software. Generic is mostly the way the default works that gets shipped on kernel.org. Low latency is whatever the faggot who compiled it felt like is the superior scheduler to make programs feel "snappier". Real time is mostly a special effort to make the kernel work for people who need the absolute best response time for their application like pro audio applications (Audio recording studios etc). You might think "hey that sounds great for my esport game tournament rig, i am gonna go pro". But that is not how that works. Most applications need a multitude of system services to function and real time focuses on ONE task.
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>>107922320
Bazzite. Then show your dick to the maintainers to remind them of what they threw away.
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>>107921915
>>107921835
>>107921757
>>107921067
>>107922304
And it fucked up again. But I found out what the issue was. For some reason, if my PS3 is turned on, Gwenview fucks up, Dolphin fucks up, other things fuck up. I don't know what the hell is going on, but my PS3 is hooked up directly to my computer via ethernet for FTP.
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>>107922173
Did you bother to read his post or were you too busy finding an excuse to shill bazzite that you weren't paying attention?
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>>107922288
I could select and use snapshots, just I wouldn't get to the login screen.
I managed to boot somehow, but sometimes I have to restart and try again, spam ESC. I don't know what's causing this
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>>107922186
>void linux
>friendly to white men
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>>107922390
How do I make it so EVERYTHING on my system EXCEPT for FileZilla refuses to interact with a particular IP address? My PS3 is likely just going apeshit on my local network and I don't want any KIO shit like Dolphin or Gwenview or whatever to probe it and get fucked up.
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>>107922230
>ZorinOS makes Gnome look like Windows 10/11
Fascinating and disturbing. The more I look at Zorin's page the happier I am to be on Debian with regular GNOME. The whole Ubuntu and its derivatives sphere is so bizarre. They're advertising slightly different dock positions and menu ricing as a paid feature.
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How many linuxes are without any rust involvement? I don't want no glowie shit.
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>>107922402
Just take the Bazzpill
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>>107922610
None. Use OpenBSD.
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>>107922610
I dont like rust either but i dont like it because of its awful toolchain and license, not for being glowie shit. If anything systemd is more likely to be glowie shit than rust.
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>>107922879
>>107922610
Glowie shit is all hidden in crypto and RNG where nobody can recognize it. Just because your stupid ass can't wrap their brain around the entire manual doesn't mean a backdoor wouldn't be glaringly obvious in a basic state machine that's actively being worked on by lots of people.
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>>107922879
>license
oh yea I saw something about arch and license changing too. Never gave the rust thing much attention but that rose concerns.
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>>107922937
Ok, so why Rust specifically and not everything else in existence?
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>>107922970
It uses the mozilla license so it has the same issues as firefox has when it comes to modifying the software forcing you to remove the "rust" name and branding
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>>107922995
Endorsed by glows. Schizo push to force it in random places.
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>>107922995
too agressive.
as in shoved down everyones throat.
no organic growth.

so one can only conclude there are unspoken motives for this artificial push.
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I symlinked the Documents and Pictures folders from my Windows drive lol
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Why is LibreOffice so heavy compared to Office 2007? Writer takes over 11 seconds to open on a machine which would handle Office 2007 pretty much instantly.
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>>107923063
If you actually need to work with office format, just cope with google docs.
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>>107923063
Java
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>>107923031
Successful devs always push their own shit for no reason. It's baked into the personality type.

If you don't believe in complex toolchain, there's a kernel for you, and it's called OpenBSD. Linux was never anti-corpo / anti-trans or whatever. Its declared goal since at least the late 90s was to be the universal globohomo kernel.
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>>107923031
Specially when there's a lot of funding behind it
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>>107923063
Office preloads with Windows.

>>107923090
.net
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After I go through all that 30-minute hell to setup a minimal installation, can I then clone it to another drive or some kind of installation media afterwards so if I don't write down a huge list of all the settings and preferences I select during installation?
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>>107923105
Is c# / dotnet really as bad as java?
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>>107923155
You can use clonezilla something like clonezilla or just use rsync if you know what you're doing
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>>107923177
>You can use clonezilla something like clonezilla
You can use something like clonezilla*
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>>107923177
I've never done a minimal install before but I really want to learn how to get into setting up a system that still isn't entirely DIY but just lets me to pick and choose my programs/de/wm instead, so I think it'll be a while before I know what I'm doing there.
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>>107923163
Yes, they just do more QoL than Java. It's same shit.
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>>107923177
Not that guy, but isn't there a way to make a custom iso and pick the extra shit you want with tuxmate or similar?
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Does anyone know if there is a distro that can handle a dual monitor setup with two different refresh rates OOTB on an Nvidia GPU?
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>>107923444
Anything with Wayland
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>>107923063
>Office 2007 vs LibreOffice 2026
2 decades of bloat. Use an office suite specifically tailored to be lightweight, or just run an older version of LibreOffice or OnlyOffice.

>>107923444
Any distro which ships nVidia drivers and Wayland by default. Bazzite, CachyOS with KDE, Nobara, etc.
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>>107923472
Installing the proprietary NVIDIA drivers takes all of 5 minutes, so it is not strictly necessary to recommend distros that come with these drivers
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>>107923501
>installing drivers
Anon asked about distros so I assume maximum laziness.
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is there a good paint alternative? i don't want 5000 features or buttons, just to crop and maybe redact things every now and then
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>>107923771
KolourPaint. It's Paint but better.
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>>107923771
I just use kolourpaint because it came with KDE. There's nothing stopping you from running paint.exe in wine either.
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>>107923807
forgot to add as i pressed post; one that isnt kolourpaint as it requires 400mb of kde stuff. i'm on gnome
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>>107923840
pinta
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>>107923840
If you just need cropping and redacting I'm pretty sure the GNOME screenshot tool already has that. And the default image viewer has it if I remember correctly. I could be wrong, I don't daily drive GNOME and it's been a few months since I last used it.
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>>107923901
thanks

>>107923937
it can do all sorts of cropping and rotating, but thats it
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>>107923771
https://github.com/misohena/el-easydraw
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>Be me
>Be in hospital for a month
>Come home to recover
>Go to upgrade Ubuntu
>Cannot update anymore because i missed the "update window"
>Spend 10 hours copying /home back after new OS
>Barely works.
Great system :/
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I'm running an old laptop and I'm doing an XP+7 for gaming and Linux for daily use, I'm running off 4gb ram and an i5 2520m, anyone know any distros that dualboot easily, I've already got mint xfce ready to go and wanted to see if any other distros would be better for ram usage, I also would love if it has a theme to make it look like it's from 2010s, not windows 7 style though, more Mac osx snow Leopold/lion style
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any decent hacky ways/scripts to save images in different tabs? like if i have 20 tabs of images open at once
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>>107924375
assuming you mean Emacs tabs, I asked an LLM to write an ELisp command that downloads every image that's currently open in Emacs' built-in browser. I just tested it and it works.

https://bpa.st/HJMQ
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>>107924375
solved my own issue
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/tab-image-saver/
this is the only one i found that has an option for ignoring standard webpages and will only download from links ending in .jpg, .png etc.
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>>107924087
>other distros would be better for ram usage
MX Linux (with Xfce), AntiX, Q4OS
>I've already got mint xfce
Mint Xfce got more RAM heavy a couple of years ago.
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>>107924644
Oh it's just Mint Xfce4 and not Xfce4 in general?
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>>107924644
I was actually just using q4os, I also have used mx before but I broke it by just turning it off right at the start of boot when it was initializing the ramdisk, probably would also happened to any other distro too.
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>>107924751
XFCE because they adopted GTK3, but also Mint in general because they're run by retards and don't have any kind of compressed swap ootb. Full bloat Fedora KDE would actually be less bad.

The real trick to running small memory these days is zswap with tiered virtual / physical swap. Nobody sets that up for you by default, but you can spend a couple minutes on the Arch wiki and see how to do it with anything. If you build your own kernel with just the drivers your machine needs, that's also a sizeable memory reduction.
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So I'll ask a question that's been asked heaps bit with a slight twist.

What are the true alternatives to adobe software?

for premiere there's obviously resolve, which works better in every way. and kdenlive for simpler edits which I quite like the lightweight feeling of

for Lightroom I use rawtherapee which seems to do everything I need (is there features it lacks over Lightroom?)

but for Photoshop and illustrator in particular I feel lost. the usual recommendations are PS = krita and gimp. I use krita for drawing which I think its great at but for serious image manipulation it falls apart real quick (just look at how garbage the text tool is) and gimp, at least when I last used it was complete shit. does anyone use affinity through wine? I'm kinda scared to try to be honest because I like how clean my system is and last I used wine it looked like windows 98 tier GUI and crashed nonstop when I used simple programmes like musicbee.

and for illustrator is there really only Inkscape?

I feel like gimp is so close in terms of features but it's designed by retards who don't actually do image manipulation.

at least for Microsoft office I can run it in my browser no issue
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>>107925017
Well I'm on Fedora. I did a comparison with just rebooted Xfce4 with some other guy who had Gnome (Also on Fedora if I remember correctly). There wasn't that much difference at all, Gnome was only about 200-300mb heavier. Which was surprising to me at least.
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>>107925244
If you need to use professional software, your only option is to dual boot or maybe run them inside a VM.
>https://github.com/ValveSoftware/wine/pull/310
This is a new update so maybe everything will work soon enough.
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>>107925322
I don't have to that's the thing, but mostly everything else has an alternative. for my use case it's just when I need to edit something up or do some photo editing like removing background stuff etc

but that's interesting. I read that affinity is also somewhat working now with the right scripts and wine. I'm very grateful to valve for their work on wine. I just wish Canva pulled a black magic. hell I'd pay for it even though it's free on windows
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>>107925287
You can shave about 800M off GNOME by disabling gnome-software. xfeces is just not good and hasn't been for years.
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plasma-meta doesn't come with kcalc? that's such a weird move. or is there another package I'm missing
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I just finished installing bazzite on my laptop and I am totally free of microslop and windows.
Thank you, /fglt/.
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>>107925762
yay! why did you choose bazzite?
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>>107925694
KCalc is not needed for a functioning desktop. Makes sense to omit it. If you have KRunner then you already have a basic calculator anyway.
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>>107925794
agreed about krunner but I feel like plasma-meta should include a standalone calculator since writing out formulae gets a bit annoying
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>>107925770
I was told that it's baby's first linux distro and very hard to screw up. I've been trying it out on my desktop for maybe 2 months now while keeping windows on my laptop just in case I needed something that I couldn't figure out how to access on linux. Eventually I tried to kill some background process on my laptop and I decided to get rid of windows when I told me I didn't have permission to kill a process running on my own computer.
I also play a good amount of games, and ironically proton seems to do a better job of being compatible with old windows games than windows itself is. My desktop has an AMD gpu but the laptop has an Nvidia one, so it's nice to have the drivers installed by default, too.
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>>107925823
fair fair, I suppose that's the good thing about bazzite. I remember thinking fedora was ok, but I'm an arch user through and through. don't take this as me trying to convert you or anything I think it's great you're on Linux now and you should stick with it :)

on arch you can install the NVIDIA drivers during install too, it's just some foss first distros like debian and fedora that make you enable extra repos (which I don't think is fair on the average user)
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>>107920155 (OP)
I have two Gigabyte B760 mobos that I've found that with linux have no motherboard audio. Front panel works and all is swell on windows but not le penguin. I'm a noob so uh wtf. Tried several variations of Ubuntu and CachyOS and the results are the same.
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I currently use Debian stable, and it seems to work "ok" but there are some things I would like to be more recent. My ideal would be if Debian had a true rolling release (I used testing and sid for years, but not a huge fan for the reasons Debian themselves state). I'm considering something rolling release, such as arch/cachyOS or tumbleweed, or something atomic such as fedora kinoite or bazzite.

I think my ideal would be something like a debian-based kinoite, although that does not appear to exist. Using stable with a backports kernel and amdgpu/mesa drivers could be a base-enough system to employ an atomic-like approach to managing newer software in distrobox and flatpaks that can be portable to additional distros, but without the readonly protection.

The benefit of a rolling release distro would be to get things like chromium etc in official signed packages. Flatpak still has a lot of "unverified" and unknown builds that aren't ideal from a trust perspective.

What is /g/'s thoughts on this? Is atomic a meme? Should I use Debian stable as a psuedo-atomic? Should I just move onto Tumbleweed?
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>>107926156
Kind of solved it. I unplugged the headset from the front and now I can get sound out of the back panel. What kind of dumb fuckery is this?
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>>107926265
using pipewire?
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>>107926238
>My ideal would be if Debian had a true rolling release
I don't get it. Point in using Debian is the stability and rolling releases are inherently unstable.
>Using stable with a backports kernel
>kernel
You can pick any kernel with any userland, it's not a "package dependency" so it doesn't matter. I've booted a dozen distros using the one and same custom kernel, the kernel sat on the EFI system partition as EFI-stub.
>Should I just move onto Tumbleweed?
Arch.
>>107926265
Funny, I remember the opposite. As in Windows doing the disabling part while Linux didn't care or even know what was plugged in to where. But my info is from the Windows XP days.
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>>107926354
Fuck if I know. I tried Linux a couple years ago, Mint 22.1 I believe and shit worked now it doesn't.
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dubs chooses what distro i install to an optiplex that has an Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3240
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>>107926656
Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC YAUFA
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>>107926693
no please...I can't sit through 3 hours of MAS...especially not with a HDD
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>>107926701
Oh shit. Then make it Linux Mint 22.3
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>>107926721
its funny I'm currently testing 22.2 in a live usb...might use Xfce though.
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>>107926592
>Point in using Debian is the stability and rolling releases are inherently unstable.
I like the Debian ecosystem. For servers stable can be fine, but for desktops there are some considerable downsides; increasingly so over time, such as browser versions. New software versions from a mature product also needn't be "unstable". Aging software is also "unstable" in a different way, providing patches to an old version becomes increasingly difficult the more the latest software diverges from that version.

> it's not a "package dependency" so it doesn't matter. I've booted a dozen distros using the one and same custom kernel, the kernel sat on the EFI system partition as EFI-stub.
Technically yes, but maintaining your kernel outside of your main system packaging is fairly annoying, and updates will interfere with this and require intervention.
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>>107926656
Puppy
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>>107926638
hmm, my honest opinion is don't use mint. like the other anon is using, if you don't know Linux very well just use bazzite
>>107926656
headless arch server configuration
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>>107926656
gentoo
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>>107926656
Debian 13 with the DE of your choice.
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>>107926656
LMDE xfce
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>>107925244
Why does everyone hates gimp?
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>>107925823
>baby's first linux distro and very hard to screw up
This category doesn't really exist anymore. For the past 5 years just about every distro short of Arch or Gentoo has collapsed into "baby's first Linux"
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I ran the archinstall script on a machine in December of last year and defaulted the btrfs and snapper options, I have the most bizarre combinations of symlink and snapper defaults I've ever seen. A top level subvol named snapshots, inside links to encrypted snapshots at the latest snapshots generated from standard @, @home, @var, @log, @pkg with the normal @.snapshots and @home/.snapshots folders. The folders are @_latest, @home_latest, and @log_latest, and @pkg_latest I know why the top level folder is there, mounting from the boot loader, but where the hell did this structure come from and why did it default to this?

If someone could point me in the right direction of a script or pkg that sets it up this way I'd be grateful.
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>>107927595
probably the archinstall script did it
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>>107927603
that's the thing though, I checked the dates and installer data. This isn't standard at the time of generation and I swear I didn't mess with snapper or even a bootable snapshot setup at all. I know how to do it on a fresh machine and this is surprising that it formatted this way. Maybe I did something stupid like updating the script itself from live disk non-chrooted.
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>>107927513
because it absolutely sucks to use and has the shittest ui
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>>107927519
doesn't debian still disable the proprietary repo by default meaning it's extra steps for NVIDIA users?
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>>107927828
I think Debian 13 enables the non-free repo by default
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>>107927513
it's not photoshop™
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> update kubuntu
> wmctrl for closing windows with specific titles doesn't work anymore
> vlc double click removes controls, still windowed, close
> vlc starts fullscreen, double click removes controles, still fullscreen
Another day of linux experience.
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>>107927519
>This category doesn't really exist anymore
Yes it does. Different distros opt for different defaults and different levels of polish. The 1% difference between Bazzite and Fedora Kinoite makes Bazzite a distro for 90% of all desktop users compared to Fedora's 10%. Simply omitting proprietary drivers and codecs is already a huge hurdle for your average normie and filters half the people on the planet from ever using Fedora. This is not mentioning that atomic and immutable distros are, to an average user, fundamentally easier to use long term.
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Got sent here from the desktop thread. What's the best file browser and icon pack to get a TUI-like feel? i.e. dark background, maybe even scanline effect, with green icons that look like TUI.
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>>107928106
No one uses Kinoite. And you realise normies get by fine on Windows, which DOESN'T come with NVIDIA drivers, right?
>This is not mentioning that atomic and immutable distros are, to an average user, fundamentally easier to use long term.
Tinkering with Flatpak permissions is NOT easier for noobs.
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>>107928190
mc
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>>107925322
>having to explicitly call free(...
C is the shittiest language

>>107928081
what can I say anon. should have used an immutable distro with flatpaks
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>>107928106
>omitting proprietary drivers and codecs is already a huge hurdle
Not much of a hurdle and more a sign we're just not in the same boat with prioryties.
>fundamentally easier to use long term
very funny anon
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>>107928208
>Windows, which DOESN'T come with NVIDIA drivers
It does for most people because they just buy a PC with Windows and all drivers pre-installed. Installing an OS by yourself is extremely rare. Also, the out of the box experience with nVidia on Windows is much better than it is on Linux distros which omit proprietary drivers.
>Tinkering with Flatpak permissions is NOT easier for noobs.
It is infinitely easier than handling dependency hell and unwillingly being your own sysadmin. Most people just want to install an app and use it, not autistically manage their OS.
I'm not saying the situation on distros like Bazzite is "perfect", but it is noticeably better than using a distro without using Flatpaks and without it being atomic/immutable.

>>107928265
>very funny anon
>They hated him because he told them the truth
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>>107926701
>I can't sit through 3 hours of MAS...
I... what?
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>>107928287
>Also, the out of the box experience with nVidia on Windows is much better than it is on Linux distros which omit proprietary drivers.
vs Linux with proprietary drivers is about the same
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>>107928287
So you're telling me Windows users will be able to install a whole new operating system but not fucking programs (eg drivers)?
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>>107928287
>dependency hell
Distro maintainers solved this issue a long, long, long, long, LONG time ago.
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>>107928335
No they didn't.
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>>107928346
Explain why I have never experienced dependency hell on Linux since the 2000's, go:
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>>107928359
Because you don't use Arch
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>>107928359
You never once tried to compile software yourself and ran into a cascading dependency failure that requires upgrading half your operating system
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>>107928429
>You never once tried to compile software yourself
I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about recommending distributions to normies? Do you seriously think normies know what a compiler is?
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>>107928437
They don't, that's why Flatpak's are so good. You can get the newest versions of software without having to know what the fuck a GCC or Clang is.
In the old days (you said 2000s) you had no choice.
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>>107928439
Or I can just hit the update button in Discover to update my software. No Flatpaks needed.
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>>107928440
And how are you going to do that if the application developer just released an update and your distro hasn't got it yet?
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>>107928444
Keep in mind some distributions don't get new releases of software for months or years at a time and even on something like Arch or Gentoo they can sometimes be slow to update things or hold things back because of dependency issues (spoiler: the distro didn't solve dependency hell, they just delayed fixing it)
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>>107928444
Better question is why a normie would give a shit? Microsoft introduced forced updates in Windows 10 because they KNOW normies hate updating software and will put off doing it themselves for as long as possible.
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>>107928450
Microsoft is perhaps not the best example though because Windows is all AI slop nowadays and they've given up on stability as a concept.
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>>107928456
Maybe, but they understood that there's only one way to give normies the latest software, and that's by force. Even Bazzite automatically downloads the latest image in the background.
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>>107928459
At least Bazzite has snapshots for rolling back though and you can do that in the bootloader and unlike the crappy "Windows System Restore Point" it actually works with no side-effects!

Although, I don't know if they handle rolling back Flatpaks too. That can be done but probably needs special handling. We really need better GUI support for browsing the changelog of Flatpak's and rolling back to an arbitrary commit.
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>>107928359
here's my attempt:
>never used anything other than minimalistic suckless software
>never used anything proprietary
>never used anything outside of your distribution's main repo, aka never cared if the software you use is up-to-date in terms of features and/or security nor if it's coming straight from the dev
just last week I couldn't launch an open source application because Debian 13 and Fedora 43 are too recent, which resulted in me having to use Debian 12 in distrobox since it satisfies dependency versions.

>>107928450
Windows updates are hated because they make the OS more shit and they are forced. also Windows doesn't default to installing 3rd party software into /system32 or /Windows like Linux effectively does. in Linux you're far more likely to encounter incompatibilities if you're over a year behind in updates because it's built around the idea of shared dependencies. the only way for a normie to use Linux without updating it is to only rely on flatpak.
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>>107928473
>That can be done but probably needs special handling
So, you're saying mutable distros have superior rollback capabilities to immutable distros?
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>>107928480
I'm saying I don't know. I don't use GUIs and am fine with rolling them back from the command-line.

The Bazzite dev should probably think about that though. There can be reasons to rollback a Flatpak sometimes.
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>>107928480
>being disingenuous on purpose
He's saying that a Flatpak downgrade process could use a GUI. You can roll back Flatpaks in the CLI, just like you can roll back packages in some mutable distros using the CLI package manager.
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>>107928488
>I don't use GUIs but I'm going to speak on behalf of newcomers
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>>107928499
When I was new I did use GUIs. I don't know why that should surprise you. When you know nothing about the command line you use whatever GUI is available to do that job. Eventually you learn if you care to.
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>>107928510
Do you by any chance use xfce
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>>107928532
KDE but I used pretty much every major desktop in the past when I first start started using Linux. I started on Ubuntu back when they used Unity but eventually realised that was actually pretty crap and there are a ton of other desktops out there (something that wasn't immediately obvious to me when I first start using it. Probably, to a new user from Windows the idea of being able to change the desktop to something else was unheard of).
Back then Linux was nothing like it is today, you had to learn shit but still I used the update wizard and Synaptic, etc. Things like KDE Discover are much better than that today for a new user that really doesn't care about all of the system packages they've got installed and just wants to a) update the system and b) install some apps
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>>107928532
I don't know what xfce is or does, sorry

>>107928568
to be fair, discover is still kinda shit, but at least it's much better compared to what it was years ago.
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Alright, so my system is fucked and I dont know what to do.
I started using cachyos about a month ago and when trying to run 2 DEs (kde and niri) I ran into stability issues. I decided to reinstall cachy using ventoy, which worked but caused even more stability issues; i.e. I was crashing constantly. I went to reinstall cachy a third time and now it won't boot into the new installation period, it can only boot into the live ventoy enviornment .going through the installation process seems to work, but when I reboot ventoy is my only option. If I unplug the thumb drive with ventoy my system just reboots into the bios over and over again. Any ideas into how I can fix this, at this point I'm willing to switch back to mint or even windows if it mean I can use my computer again.

Heres a sexy momo for your troubles, please help me
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>>107928790
>Heres a sexy momo for your troubles, please help me
That only gives more troubles
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>>107920700
anyone? desu
1/3
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>>107926656
arch
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>>107920700
At least you are able to post images...
They really don't want people to post anything.
Check your journalctl and see what is going on. Something is misconfugured or broken.
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>>107928853
>>107928790
Anyway, I would suggest trying to install vanilla Arch Linux and seeing if that solves all of your issues.
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>>107926238
>Should I just move onto Tumbleweed?
yes, it's pretty good
just don't go full packman repo for codecs, only use packman-essentials
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>>107928790
is there a cachyos/arch entry on your bios boot order at all? i had trouble with systemd-boot once where it didn't create a bios entry and i had to use a efibootmgr command i found on some forum for it to show up.

with a problem this bad better try a different distro like ubuntu or windows just to try make it work again. wouldn't recommend using ventoy either for anything that isn't windows, better just dd the linux iso file. fedora also has a media writer on windows.
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Does nvidia on linux force their gay app or is there something like nvcleaninstall for linux?
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>>107929041
Literally the only thing they have is their control panel and it doesn't work on Wayland anyway. No, they don't force that crap. This isn't Windows.
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>>107929041
Man, NVCleanstall is the only thing still getting me to use NVIDIA cards on Windows.
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>>107928790
My first thought is either failing RAM/storage or a Ventoy bug.
1. Check the hash of your .iso file on your Ventoy USB and see if it matches. If it doesn't match then you're working with a corrupted iso file. From there you'll have to test your memory or storage device for corruption.
2. Try using Etcher or UNetBootin instead of Ventoy. I also sometimes had random issues using Ventoy which didn't exist with Etcher or Fedora Image Writer.

>>107929041
There's no nVidia app on Linux aside from their obsolete one which doesn't get automatically installed anyway. You just get the driver.
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>>107920721
You can compile to ELF using Winelib, but the program will still need a running wineserver.
https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/Winelib-User%27s-Guide
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>>107929455
i was looking for this the other day, having sworn i've seen it before, but my searches suggested that it wasn't a thing and that i'd dreamt it up
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>>107925762
The creator of bazzite works for microsoft
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>>107930113
>suggested that it wasn't a thing and that i'd dreamt it up
It's the closest thing to a reverse cygwin.
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>>107925823
>it's baby's first linux distro
Not really bazzite is just a meme distro forced by one anon in these threads. Stuff like ubuntu and mint have always been baby's first linux distro
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>>107928208
Windows will usually automatically install the nvidia drivers on first boot
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>>107930208
>implying majority of linux isn't developed by corporations
>>107930231
>implying there isn't more than a single person recommending bazzite on /g/ and /fglt/
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>>107930265
>there isn't more than a single person recommending bazzite on /g/ and /fglt/
Strange how the last few threads had no bazzite shilling and then all of a sudden 2 days into this thread the bazzite shilling ramped up by 300% after (You) joined the thread
>bazzite shill is a corporate bootlicker
Lol.
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>>107928190
You can't really get a TUI-like feel from icons. I suppose something flat/material like papirus could work? Or a monochrome icon pack.
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When using cp or mv or similar commands, if I want the destination directory to be the current working directory, what do I do? If I use .. it will use the previous directory, right?
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>>107930352
A single dot . or ./
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>>107928916
>>107929032
>>107929209
Thank you for the suggestions, but apparently sixth time was the charm lol
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Whats the best ready to go Linux I can just archive as a data hoarder? No, I DON'T WANT to use apt pacman or any of that shit I want to install a Linux distribution on ~2020's hardware and have it be ready to go without an internet connection. In short I want a future-proof OS that will work perfectly well as long as I can procure hardware for it.
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>>107930362
Thank you.
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>>107930434
>as long as I can procure hardware for it.
if you buy new hardware, that hardware is going to need drivers, which means you'll need to update.

>ready to go without an internet connection
Debian. I think they're the only ones who still make DVD/BD sets with all the software in their repos.
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>have Linux firmware (from kernel.org Git)
>have Linux wireless regulatory database files (from kernel.org Git)
>have some other firmware not found from kernel.org
>need all of them to appear at /lib/firmware
How does one do this?
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>>107930471
You ignore whatever warning you're getting as long as it works. Some drivers request firmware that "doesn't exist" because it was only meant for testing or never released.
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If I copy a file with cp to another dir that has a file of the same name and extension, does it replace it? Does it rename the new one automatically (if so, how do I force it to replace)?
Also when doing these types of commands on a directory recursively, in which order do it do it? Will copy smaller files first? Larger first? Go by alphabetical order? If it goes alphabetical, do files starting in 10 come before or after file starting in 9?
Also yazi calls this sorting format of 10 coming after 9 "natural sorting". How can I make ls (or lsd) use this sort of sorting?
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>>107930571
It replaces it if you use the -f or --force flag otherwise it'll prompt you to ask what to do.
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>>107930571
>How can I make ls (or lsd) use this sort of sorting?
alias ls='ls -v'
Will make ls do a natural sort on numbers. It's not a real natural sort with case folding and shit. lsd may support that; idk.
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>>107930311
>(You)
>implying all or any bazzite shilling is coming from me
>provide no evidence

>m-muh corporate bootlicker!
>implying a janitor working for M$ is not allowed to make a distribution
>not refuting the fact that linux is mainly a corporate project and not some freetard safe haven
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>>107930567
Huh?
I have multiple repositories of firmware and in order it to work they must be placed at /lib/firmware.
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>>107930434
Fedora Atomic, you can just rebase it to other images
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I've been running Debian with Cinnamon for a few months now and want to move on from relying on backports to Arch with rolling package releases. When I was previously on XFCE, I'd have to open folders as root and then edit system files for configurations. While trying out KDE and finally moving to Cinnamon, I actually received a prompt for admin password to save the file despite opening in read-only mode, which felt like a nice an upgrade. However, on my fresh Arch install with Cinnamon, I don't receive that prompt anymore. Installing the GNOME polkit didn't help, either. Am I missing a package for this feature or is it a setting in Cinnamon somewhere that I'm overlooking?
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>>107930941
You're doing it right is what I meant.
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>>107930434
Gentoo but save the stage3 tarball and Portage snapshot and download all the distfiles.
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>>107926238
maybe try bluefin lts
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How to send file from KDE plasma to an android phone with bluetooth?
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>>107931386
Just use KDE Connect. It's faster than Bluetooth transfers anyway.
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>>107930434
You're thinking about it the wrong way, if your main priority is no internet connection then you should be looking at setting up your own local mirror repository so that you can install everything offline from your local drive or your local internet instead of over the internet
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>>107930571
Usually by default it will overwrite the current file. You can use the -i option to prompt first before overwriting and -n to prevent it from ever overwriting the file and as the other anon said you can use -f to make sure it will overwrite the file though you shouldnt really need to do this since by default it will always overwrite
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>>107931415
I do use it, but bluetooth offer some stuff.
KDE connect works with USB tether as well which is nice too.
But it won't work with hotspot, and an important bit, sometimes I need to transfer files between pc and an android phone with no internet connection to get KDE connect application.
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>>107931470
>>107930580
Apparently, it's more complicated than I thought. It _does_ replace existing files but only if the existing file is older than the file you're replacing it with.
       --update[=UPDATE]
control which existing files are updated; UPDATE={all,none,none-fail,older(default)}

-u equivalent to --update[=older]. See below
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>>107931491
>But it won't work with hotspot
You can manually pair via the IP address. It should work even over a tethered hotspot if you manually pair the gateway address.
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>>107931500
More:
       UPDATE controls which existing files in the destination are replaced.  all is the default operation when an --update option is not             specified, and results in all existing files in the destination being replaced.  none is like the --no-clobber option, in that no files        in the destination are replaced, and skipped files do not induce a failure.  none-fail also ensures no files are replaced in the               destination, but any skipped files are diagnosed and induce a failure.  older is the default operation when --update is specified, and         results in files being replaced if theyre older than the corresponding source file.
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>>107930795
>provide no evidence
Just a coincidence that the previous threads had no bazzite shilling its almost like you took a day off since you seem to not get paid on weekends.
>h-he's just a microsoft janitor!
Lol. Corporate bootlicker cope.
>linux is mainly a corporate project
When you corporate bootlick so hard that you try to badly memoryhole Arch, Debian, and Gentoo being community projects.
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>>107931500
>>107931518
Never mind. The default for --update is misleading.
> ’all’ is the default operation when an --update option is not
>specified, and results in all existing files in the destination being replaced. ’none’ is like the --no-clobber option, in that no files
>in the destination are replaced, and skipped files do not induce a failure. ’none-fail’ also ensures no files are replaced in the
>destination, but any skipped files are diagnosed and induce a failure. ’older’ is the default operation when --update is specified, and
>results in files being replaced if they’re older than the corresponding source file.
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>>107931500
I'm pretty sure it will always overwrite by default unless you specify -n or type n/no when using -i
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on debian for like a 6 months. no regrets. i ain't gonna go back to this god forsaken 11 man :3
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>>107931552
Yeah, although your shell may change that which is why I originally said >>107930580
I forgot I use Zsh which has a feature to protect you against clobbering files.
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>>107931580
I think zsh protects you against clobbering when your doing it for a large amount of files but not when its only one or two files. I usually just alias all those commands to include -i
alias rm='rm -i' cp='cp -i' mv='mv -i'
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>>107920721
compiled elf would still need gtk or qt to run on linux, if it's a gui program
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>>107931505
Doesn't solve the problem I'm trying to solve.
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>>107931607
I think that's only if you use the GTK themeing which is experimental.
>Wine staging users may instead want to try enabling the option Enable GTK3 Theming under the Staging section of winecfg for a theme that matches the current GTK theme.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wine#Appearance

Wine doesn't use GTK or Qt by default.
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>>107931622
Just use rsync or scp in Termux to pull the file down.
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>>107931386
Do you have the obex packages installed on your system?
>>107931491
If you're able to get a wifi connection to your phone via hotspot you could try using localsend which is p2p file transferring
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>>107931688
>Do you have the obex packages installed on your system?
It should?
I have bluedevil and I can connect the android phone.
But i just keep getting an error when trying to send files, connecting the phone seems fine though.
>localsend
Wasn't this malware?
Also last time I checked it only worked with chrome.
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>>107931746
If you're really stuck just go to the directory where the file is and run
python3 -m http.server
and then curl or wget the file in Termux or use a web browser.

Trying to get Bluetooth to work is a waste of time.
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>>107931746
Bluez-obex is in a separate package and depending on your distro might not be installed by default. Don't know which distro you're using but might want to check if it is installed.
>Wasn't this malware?
Not that i know of. Maybe you're thinking of something else.
>Also last time I checked it only worked with chrome.
It has an appimage for linux and is on fdroid for android.
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>>107922666
No Satan, I don't think that I will.
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>>107931772
Android to PC
Not the other way.
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>>107931118
This is a KDE feature, or possibly a Kate/KWrite feature.

>>107931491
>it won't work with hotspot
I just tested this on multiple devices, it works fine.
>enable hotspot on your Android phone
>connect your PC to it
>open KDE Connect on both devices
>hit "refresh" on your desktop version of KDE Connect
It should instantly find your phone. I assume that's what you're trying to do?
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>>107931118
Have enabled the polkit agent service?
>>107932236
>This is a KDE feature
Mint has this as well so it can't be KDE exclusive.
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>>107932263
>Mint has this as well
Really? I never had it come up anywhere outside of KDE.
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>>107920155 (OP)
what is linus setup?
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>>107932295
If I understood it correctly, it does.
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>>107920155 (OP)
After closing some steam games, steam seems to think I still have them open, both on my friends list and on the launcher itself, only after pressing STOP on the launcher it seems to think I'm not playing anymore. Anyone know a fix?
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>>107932236
>This is a KDE feature, or possibly a Kate/KWrite feature
I thought I purged all the KDE files from my system when switching DEs
>>107932263
>Have enabled the polkit agent service?
it seems to be running when I use commands like pkactions and pkexec. looking through my pkaction list, I wonder if the pop-up prompt is linked to dpkg and it's not Arch friendly because it uses pacman instead of apt/dpkg; whereas Mint/Ubuntu is expecting a Debian base system.
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>we still dont have a functioning mainline distro that is any good
>we still dont have a functioning suite of apps that is just preinstalled and works out of the box

LMAO. Closest to even any of this might be kubuntu or mint mainline edition.

Kubuntu and KDE as a desktop is a good windows 11 replacement but has garbage snap but its much better than zorinOS at the very least because zorin doesnt even have a functioning software manager because its so ass and KDE loads stuff much faster than bloated extension hell guhnome.

Mint cinnamon exists but the theme is so fucking ugly and disgusting with an ugly bluish gray theme which is the default when they literally had it perfect in mint 21.3 and nemo is literally slower and worse than windows 10 file manager. Nemo is verified as the slowest, most buggiest file manager on linux and mint devs are retarded and still wont fork from thunar after 5+ years of people complaining yet devs are some of the most ego tripped on linux and dont even listen to their forms.

Mint in general sucks, on the surface it SEEMS good but the file manager is not the one and only issue. Issues like having retarded icons as the alt tab by default, delay in tab speed, you can change it but it should be instant by default.

Closest clean looking desktop you can get is KDE plasma 6.5 that just werks because discover is unironically god tier for a software store so good even solus uses it since the only other competent software store is bazaar and thats pozzed and flatpak only. No distro has KDE and there's no easy installer non ubuntu corposlop.

You got solus, I GUESS maybe KDE NEON but that's just a reskin of ubuntu with plasma 6.5.5

You got cachyOS I GUESS but its bloated to hell and a retarded flavor of the month meme arch distro

So basically your options are to get fucked or install arch which the average user can't do even with arch install. A glaring problem with no good KDE desktop yet no one will make it.
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>>107932595
uuuuuuuuuhhhhh bro... linux is literally a solved problem by now if you're not a retard.
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>>107932595
>we still dont have a functioning mainline distro that is any good
They're called Bazzite and SteamOS
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>>107932641
So what distro would you recommend a new user use thats not garbage compared to even windows 11 that has an easy installer?

Lets hear it and dont say fedora corpo slop that doesnt even come with codecs and is a buggy mess and doesnt even work out of the box.
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Arch is no longer a hardcore distro
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>>107932681
Bazzite doesnt work properly. Every thing is a flatpak because its based on garbage fedora atomic kinoite.

Loads slower than windows 11 apps. Also its a gaymer distro with retarded shit baked in for no reason. Also it uses bazaar when discover exists.
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I use hyprland currently, sell me on a different compositor. I have an nvidia gpu also
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>>107932704
>Every thing is a flatpak
As it should be. If you're an advanced user you can use something else without issues.
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>>107932508
>pkactions and pkexec
You're using systemd, you check that stuff with>
>systemctl status [something]
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>>107928790
Some anon asked me if my system was actually stable last week. Ended up with me fixing my problems by just giving cpu a bit more voltage.
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>>107932755
>everything should be a flatpak
I have a strong feeling you're just a larping troll that doesn't actually use linux
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>>107932704
The fact it also comes with like 5 different alternative package managers and an inferior gtkshit terminal to konsole doesnt help either.
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>>107932595
Is manjaro or endeavor any good? Your other post mentioned you don't like fedora so i guess that isnt an option.
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>>107932720
MangoWC looks interesting. Lightweight but has as many features as hyprland
>Mango is as lightweight as dwl, and can be built completely within a few seconds.
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>>107932864
I'll check it out
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>>107932322
I think the issue is that one or several wine processes didn't properly terminate. Usually this can be solved with something like wineserver -k but i don't know how you would do that with proton.
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>>107932720
I've been thinking of switching to niri since the scrolling thing sounds like a cool idea and i use monocole tabbed mode more than tiling
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>>107929000
Thank you, I wasn't aware of "packman-essentials", I will keep this in mind. I am also interested in Aeon which is seemingly based on Tumbleweed but I would prefer if it was out of RC before I used it.

>>107931207
I've just been reading about this today, I will look into it thank you.
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>>107932790
>if you use flatpak you don't use Linux
Cry about it. I exclusively use flatpak for my applications with the exception of some stuff that comes with my DE.
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I AM INSTALLING NIXOS AND USING IT ALMOST AS A MORE MALLEABLE ATOMIC DISTRO BASE WITH FLATPAK AND DISTROBOX IN MY HOMEDIR AS NECESSARY.

ANY LAST WORDS /g/?
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>>107932852
>manjaro or endeavor
Manjaro is sort of asking for trouble by being out of sync with the main repos and AUR. Endeavour is like installing Arch with a GUI and you can easily elect to not install theming, defaults, etc. it's probably 98% of the install customization without 98% of the frustrations. [spoiler] I used to use Arch btw[/spoiler]
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How do you go about "reinstall-proofing" your data on Linux when it comes to thinks like setting up programs?
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>>107931443
>if your main priority is no internet connection then you should be looking at setting up your own local mirror repository
Why can't this be done with appimages or something else that is the equivalent of portable applications?
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>>107932767
I appreciate the advice. it looks like polkit.service is running when checking it with systemctl. the password prompt is apparently a tie-in with GNOME text editor (and forks?). I installed that, which I had defaulted on the Debian system and forgotten about, and now the prompt appears when editing the root files using GTE on the Arch system. thanks again for the discussion and teasing this all apart!
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Is it possible for me to remove systemd at installation on Debian minimal?
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>>107933422
devuan
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>>107933213
Prefer user configuration over system config. Virtually everything should be in your /home. There's a lot of bad advice from people who suggest editing files in /etc
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>>107933023
>MORE MALLEABLE ATOMIC DISTRO
Fedora Atomic distros are already extremely customizable to the point that they don't feel any different than a regular distro.
>DISTROBOX IN MY HOMEDIR
I wouldn't recommend this. You should have a separate home directory for your distrobox environments unless you're absolutely sure that you won't have any config conflicts/overrides.

>>107933183
>Manjaro is sort of asking for trouble by being out of sync with the main repos and AUR.
There aren't really that many issues unless you rely on some specific AUR packages. But personally I'd avoid AUR even on regular Arch.

>>107933227
Wdym? You can just hoard appimages or .tar bundles if you want.
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I have never used KDE before, what is the "krash" meme all about?
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>>107933541
it's extremely buggy. I use emacs and terminal apps because all the GNOME stuff has no features and all the KDE stuff is too bugridden to actually use.
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>>107933541
KDE4
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use case for shipping a distro without a fucking c compiler holy fuck
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>>107926656
Slackware.
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I want a stable distribution which ships with all the drivers I could possibly need out of the box, but otherwise offers no preinstalled software or system settings bullshit whatsoever.

Hell, I'd just like to be presented with an OS that only shows up as a DOS-style terminal that has only the bare minimum to "just werk" for any hardware pending further installation along with things like checking automatically for kernel and security updates and doing things like memory management. I just want a blank launchpad that then lets me pick and choose the desktop, window manager, login or lock screen, and programs I want. Oh and apparently I must use Wayland and no systemd because apparently that's the "modern" approach for a modern desktop.

What is the distribution I am looking for?
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>>107926656
Vendefoul
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>>107926656
Lubuntu
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>>107933463
not everything can be in your home
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>>107933541
Back in KDE 4 and very early KDE 5 it was a very, very buggy DE which would often crash for no reason. An additional problem was the fact that KDE was mainly used on distros where it was even more unstable.
>Ubuntu (Kubuntu)
The most popular distro. But, it is an LTS release which means any bugs fixed by the KDE team would only arrive 2 years later since general bug fixes are usually never backported. So it significantly extended the period of time during which KDE was considered an unstable and crashing environment.
>Fedora or non-LTS Kubuntu
Compared to Kubuntu LTS, these reduced the time between updates from 2 years to 6 months. But the problem is that KDE pushes updates to it's components asynchronously and on a different release schedule. Meaning there was still a chance (and usually the reality) that you'd be stuck with an unstable version of KDE for 6 months.
>Manjaro
It was a popular distro at the time and it bypassed the issue of being months or years out of date. So, in theory, it should've been a great KDE experience. But in reality the distro itself was exceptionally unstable.
>KDE Neon
KDE Neon was made by one KDE contributor and it was accepted as a semi-official "KDE distro". It is Ubuntu-based but pushes KDE updates almost instantly. In theory this should reduce the instability of the DE as bug fixes arrive within days or weeks instead of months or years. In reality the distro is maintained by a single person who clearly doesn't do enough QA and the distro was possibly the least stable KDE experience you could get. (KDE Neon has since been replaced with "KDE Linux", which is actually managed by the KDE team instead of one random contributor)

I don't think there was a single distro, except maybe Arch, where KDE was at least somewhat stable during the days of KDE 4 and early KDE 5.
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>>107933541
Some random indian is obsessed with posting that meme these days. That guy makes threads about it every day. I don't think the historical context matters, given that he's implying that KDE is so unusuable today that you can't use it even 5 minutes without "krashing".

That does not reflect reality, however.
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any guesses as to why my firefox buttons changed? did i fuck something up lol
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>>107934143
Which version? This happened before but then they fixed it. Maybe they broke it again? I haven't updated to 147 yet.
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>>107934411
147.0.1 on Cachy. I might just be brainfucked but I'm certain it wasn't like it yesterday.
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>>107934508
Exact same version, same cachy, same KDE, just updooted, and it works on my machine. What did you do anon?
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>>107926656
alpine linux
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>>107934123
How do you know it's some Indian guy?
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>>107934774
I don't. It's just common knowledge and I trust common knowledge.
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I used to use JPEGCrops back in the 2010s in Windows 7 (and maybe also Windows 10). I got it working in wine, but only if I ran wine as sudo. Didn't work when running wine+JPEGCrops as a normal user. Still don't know why. I considered the obvious reasons why it didn't work.

Running this EXE file:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210330125353/http://ekot.dk/programmer/JPEGCrops/download/JPEGCrops0.7.5b.exe
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>>107926656
slackware
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>>107934577
I wish I knew. No settings change it in theming or anything, the only way I can get it to change is in the "Configure GNOME/GTK Application Style" in Global Theme > Application Style but that's just breeze > adwaita > emacs. I fucked up somewhere I guess.
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>>107933803
inb4 debian
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>>107934840
Common knowledge? I should to quit 4chan. Nothing but twitter buzzwords and retarded human bots parroting same one or two things.
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>>107934774
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Am I crazy in thinking that music sounds better in CachyOS than PopOS? I put Cachy on a second hard drive and I swear to god it sounds clearer and richer. It's just Spotify going to a DAC/AMP in both cases.
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>>107935185
Nobody is going to miss you so there's no need to announce this.
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>>107928314
I swear upgrading to whatever Windblows version of IoT LTSC takes fucking forever brodie
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>wayland is super cool guys, it supports multi-monitor display scaling
>applications shit the bed if scaling is different
>not wayland's job so working as intended
wayland keeps winning
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>updating Lubuntu distro via command line
>grabbed my laptop
>it starts to spazout
>shut it off
>now it keeps taking me to busybox command line

Fug I hope I didn't fuck it up, all my mom files picture and pictures stuck on there :/
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looking for advice
ive been running ubuntu for 5 years, its mostly fine, but i would like to do a fresh install soon and this is my chance to try something different, but not TOO different, so same package manager etc. my most important things are:
>stable/reliable
>itjustworks
>supports newer hardware aka 9070 xt well
>retard friendly
i tried mint in 2018 and it shat itself within a couple months of use so i ditched it. i need something reliable, is mint a good option or something better?
bonus if it uses pulseaudio. one thing i hate is that everything went from pulseaudio to pipewire one day and i swear to fucking god the audio sounded better on pulseaudio. so i had to rip pipewire out and put it back in which causes its own weird problems
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>>107935666
Pop_OS
Devuan
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>>107935635
the files are almost certainly ok, you might have to reinstall the distro though
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>>107935666
You could install Hardened Military Linux.
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>>107935867
So fresh clean lubuntu from USB? It wasn't stuck on 22. 04, just upgraded to the newest version, everything was running fine til I grabbed the laptop, then decided to glitch up. Couldn't move my cursor. Now it just keeps booting me to busybox, it'll show the lubuntu screen. It says boot args (cat/proc/cmdline) and missing modules cat proc modules
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>>107935666
>ubuntu
>>supports newer hardware aka 9070 xt well
maybe pikaos, I have my dad on that since he's back into gayming and i only use debian and dont want to troubleshoot fedorda or arch forks. pretty sure he just uses the gui updater
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when im connecting a serial device in order to access it i need to run the command

sudo setfacl -m u:whateveryourusernameis:rw /dev/ttyACM0


is there any way to make it permanent and not have to run it each time i reboot my system
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>>107928215
midnight commander?
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>>107930339
yeah, i guess a monochrome terminal greenish icon pack would work...
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>>107935666
does Ubuntu still use apt? I remember it being a pitas to use compared to pacman
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>>107936233
Of course it uses APT, it's the core of the system.
>I remember it being a pitas to use compared to pacman
How so? Anons usually say the opposite, at least regarding syntax.
>>107935666
>stable/reliable
Does this mean rolling release is out of the question?
>supports newer hardware aka 9070 xt well
Wildcard option: compile your own kernels and use any distro.
>>107935606
I'd love to try Wayland if I could get XFCE or Mate to work with it.
I tried something that calls itself Mate Wayland but the whole thing looks absolutely nothing like Mate, the panel is all different and I can't do anything with it. XFCE Wayland crashes too frequently.
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>>107936263
>Of course it uses APT, it's the core of the system.
>>I remember it being a pitas to use compared to pacman
>How so? Anons usually say the opposite, at least regarding syntax.
I at least remember there was a change with apt syntax a while ago. but anyway, I like Pacman because -S is nice
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>>107936263
>Does this mean rolling release is out of the question?
probably, yes, it feels too inconvenient for a lazy fuck like me
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I have a USB formatted in WBFS (which is the Wii's obscure file system) and when I plug this USB in, it's detected as sde. However, wbfs-manager can't mount it due to permissions, so I have to run wbfs-manager as root. I don't feel safe running it as root, so how do I get sde working without root?
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>>107936387
disks are owned by root:disk [on my machine at least], so try adding yourself to the disk group
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>>107936395
I don't know what that means
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>>107926760
>maintaining your kernel outside of your main system packaging is fairly annoying
For me it's like: compile a new one, rename /efi/linux.efi to /efi/linux-old.efi, copy new image as /efi/linux.efi. Not *too* annoying IMO but slightly.
>and updates will interfere with this and require intervention.
What updates? Package updates from the system? No, they don't interfere with any of that. Again: kernel is not a dependency, it exists in its own realm so to say.
>>107936383
How's rolling release "inconvenient"? Thought it was very convenient because you can keep using the same system into the foreseeable future.
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>>107935867
Do i install replace new partition? Will that keep my fikes or delete everything. I tried to install along, it's stuck on 0, pretty sure it's
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>>107936445
Unless you tell it to, it shouldn't. But it sounds like those files are important to you, so you should back them up. Even without the risk of fat fingering during an install, drives fail. Don't be stupid anon.
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>>107936400
what's unsafe is operating the computer this retarded
just run it as root
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>>107936517
Ok, but I shouldn't have to. Anything is possible on Linux, right? So how do I get sde working?
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I while ago some anon asked about getting image preview on firefox when picking files to shitpost on the fourth chin.
How do I get video previews too? Also how do I make it sort folders first?
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>>107936387
>>107936549
sudo chmod 666 /dev/sde1
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>>107936566
GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN
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>>107936400
>I don't know what that means
you're better off running it as root
>>107936566
ah yes completely safe
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>>107936582
>ah yes completely safe
it gives read and write access to the exact device Anon wants to use. That is literally what he wants to do.
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>>107936566
Great success!
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New thread >>107936601 →
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>>107936611
There is no need to bake at Page 3.
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>>107922440
Shit this just convinced me to download Void. Happy to see someone just say fuck these retards lol.
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A while ago I used Tiny Core Linux in the form of SpiritOS. I tried it out on real hardware ("bare metal"). It uses the tce package manager which was too weird for me. tce apparently has no non-interactive mode. Quit using it and went back to what I was using before. I could try more to switch everything over to TCL in the future maybe.
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>>107920155 (OP)
Linus Torvalds came off as a bit of a rat bastard to me. Based on this video which focuses on Torvalds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfv0V1SxbNA [Embed]
https://inv8.nadeko.net/watch?v=mfv0V1SxbNA

Of course I appreciate that he created Linux and Git. I think I agreed with what he said about AI and water cooling. He made me want to check if i have ECC RAM; how do I do that in GNU/Linux?
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>>107936767
>He made me want to check if i have ECC RAM
You don't have it.
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>>107936767
>He made me want to check if i have ECC RAM
Unless you have a server motherboard, you don't.
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>>107936767
Pretty much what the others said. Do you have a Xeon or Threadripper platform? If not then no ECC for you.
Torvalds whole rant was about this product segmentation of a useful safety feature for no apparent reason. They've even adopted a sort of "ECC but it's not actually ECC and inferior to it in every way" to the DDR standards nowadays.
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>>107936767
Another Torvalds video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5S9LIT-hdc [Embed]

>>107936820
I don't. My mainboard is in a desktop computer with a poorly designed case: can't fit multiple internal HDDs into it and so on. Thought about switching it to a larger case which I have (didn't do that so far).
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"Trivia" -> admin at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=272620 has some thoughts on systemd:
>Disliking systemd intensely, but not satisfied with alternatives so focusing on taming systemd.
>2025-06-02 11:32:17 \ Lone_Wolf \ Administrator \ From: Netherlands, Europe \ Registered: 2005-10-04 \ Posts: 14,559

>>107935635
>>107935935
Somewhat stating the obvious here, but you want to start up a liveboot of Fedora or whatever you have then copy the files/data you want to a storage device. Then reinstall the OS, replacing your "broken" OS.

>>107936862
I don't have Intel Xeon or AMD Threadripper. neofetch says:
>CPU: 12th Gen Intel i9-12900K (24) @ 5.100GHz

It also says:
>DE: i3-with-shmlog
>WM: i3
Huh, so both my desktop environment and windows manager are i3. I thought it was only one of those.
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>>107937119
>I don't have Intel Xeon or AMD Threadripper. neofetch says:
>>CPU: 12th Gen Intel i9-12900K (24) @ 5.100GHz
Technically, ECC is not limited to those platforms, and there are boards that support it on consumer CPUs but you'd know if you had one of them.
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>>107936672
>It uses the tce package manager which was too weird for me. tce apparently has no non-interactive mode.
This suggests that it has a non-interactive mode:
https://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/doku.php?id=wiki:package_management_cheat_sheet

Here's its comparison table as CSV:
>Task, apt (deb), yum (rpm), tce-load (tcz)
>Install a package from the repo, apt-get install pkg, yum install pkg, tce-load -wi pkg
>Install from a local file, dpkg -i pkg, yum localinstall pkg, tce-load -i pkg
>Search, apt-cache search pattern, yum search pattern, tce-ab
>List installed packages, dpkg -l, rpm -qa, ls /usr/local/tce.installed
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>>107937168
>apt-get install pkg
it has been apt install for a while now. Same for the search.
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Did cool kids use Linux before the year 2000? Which Linux OS do racially diverse Amerimutt kids from the 90s or 80s use?
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>>107937204
Both are supported. apt-get is still the recommended tool for scripts though because of its stable interface whereas apt is the recommended tool for humans to use.
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>>107937842
humans should use aptitude anyways
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>>107935207
>You need GPU for KDE
is this a meme?
I have Intel HD 4000 and it works fine for me.
Fuck it I'm even running it from 5400 rpm mechanical drive.
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>>107934123
Then I will install a distro with KDE to try and daily drive for myself and report back, perhaps.
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>>107938492
KDE works on distros like CachyOS, Gentoo, Fedora, Arch. I wouldn't use crap like Kubuntu.
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>>107934123
>That does not reflect reality, however.
It's funny because KDE actually has data on the reality of Krashing because they care about things like QA. Most of their Krashes were coming from people using a third-party add-on that had a bug.



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