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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

► 07th Expansion links: https://rentry.co/07th-exp

Previous thread: >>50464426
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Cute and canon.
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>>50533436
Yes
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>>50533413 (OP)
Still cute but non-canon tho.
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>>50533833
*Ahem*
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>>50533413 (OP)
This artist is based
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>new Nanoha
Hell yeah
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>>50534638
>past tense
OHNONONONO
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>"You are being sacrificed to the mighty BWC!! I'm the true Aryan."
>"NOOOOOOOO-"
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>>50534638
>心の底から、幸せそうに笑ってるレナが、俺は大好きだぜ
Holy shit Keiichi confessed his love to Rena?
>私は今でも、礼奈のことが大好きだから
And Nagisa did as well, I guess her being lesbian is deeplore or something
>それはとっても素敵だと思うし、少なくとも私は、そんなあなたが大好き
But wait, Tomoe also confessed her love to Nagisa here, so it must be a lesbian love triangle. Also interesting lore that Tomoe is a pedophile

Or maybe [何々]が大好き has a wide range of meaning and doesn't necessarily refer to romantic love
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>>50536323
>Thinks the boy you loved just murdered Rika and Irie and is now chasing you with a hatchet fully believing he hates you and is about to murder you as well

>>50537643
That's why context is important you seething tranny, Satoko is LITERALLY confessing all of her deepest secrets in this scene and this comes right after her telling Keiichi that she knew he could never be her Nii-Nii or replace Satoshi. If you honestly believe that the last words a girl who's completely vulnerable and is expressing her deepest secrets would be "I-I loved you K1... only as a friend though teehee" then you're actually autistic as fuck. The scene and context proves beyond a doubt it's a tragic final confession of hidden romantic love
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anyway sex with satoko
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>>50537821
Yes
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Me and bro when we become MTF lovers
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/139349232
Take a fortune
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>>50537537
Could've been kino
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>>50537663
>>Thinks the boy you loved just murdered Rika and Irie and is now chasing you with a hatchet fully believing he hates you and is about to murder you as well
JUST LIKE ALL LOVING COUPLES
You are an insane lolcow, Satoko hates Keiichi!
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satako's gay
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>>50537899
>>50533442
>>50533413 (OP)
GIWTWM
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>>50543757
They probably all bounce between love and hate in different kakera. If there's a strong reason behind something however, it will happen inevitably again.
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>>50543836
You know what, maybe Satoko's not gay, maybe her bloodlust just comes across as homoerotic when it's really just opportunistic.
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>>50541236
Troonppeifag...
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>>50543757
The tranny seethe off this post is hilarous lmao, not only does Satoko STILL love Keiichi by the end of the story she loves him so much that her mind literally breaks and believes a demon has murdered Keiichi and is using the form of the person she loves most to kill her as well. Read the VN
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>>50546595
Barely a footnote in the entire truth.
In the CANONICAL sequel to the entire Higurashi franchise (the holy Sotsugou, peace be upon it) she ends up as a fragment travelling witch who is keen on Rika.
The end.
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>>50545606
Teppeichads are busy having sex with blonde lolis
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>>50546733
If by that you mean their transbian gfs, sure.
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>>50546684
Preach. Self inserters will never recover from this. Your favorite loli is a lesbian.
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>>50533413 (OP)
Put Ciconia back in the OP or I will kill you.
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>>50547053
All lesbians love dick. Especially in anime. What it amounts to is that you get to add the ffm tag.
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>>50547053
a raped lesbian
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>>50547076
>>All lesbians love dick.
Definitely not Keiichi's though, since they hate him.
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>>50547078
You can argue that with satokeifag. I'm just sayin pretty girls are bi. She's only woman-only if she's butch.
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>Over 5 posts of just screaming into the void out of pure impotent rage
Satokei broke you so bad
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>>50547088
Satoko could easily be butch considering she only lusts after Rika.
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Satoko lusts after K1 and Rika ships it.
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>>50547164
I don't think so.
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>>50546684
The interview debunk this sadly, SotsuGouRei is SatoKeipilled.
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>>50547298
Proofs?
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>>50547164
This is the truth
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>>50547392
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>>50547459
That just proves that Satoko can't have a romantic relationship with anyone, since no relationship revolving her got resolved with "Just get married".
Once more, you've shot yourself on the foot.
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>>50534638
>>50537663
>>50546595
Not once is the love portrayed as romantic and you know it. It's all platonic from a girl desperate to find a replacement figure for her lost brother but can't replace Satoshi in her heart, she admits it as much.
>>50546595
> not only does Satoko STILL love Keiichi by the end of the story she loves him so much that her mind literally breaks and believes a demon has murdered Keiichi and is using the form of the person she loves most to kill her as well.
She's talking metaphorically in her fit of rage, you retard, we can tell by the very previous scene where she still refers to Keiichi as himself rather than a "demon". Imagine taking that literally.
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>>50533413 (OP)
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>>50547950
Don't expect much from people that haven't read a single word of the VN.
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>>50547745
Her romantic relationship with K1 (cute and canon) doesn't solve GouSotsu.
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>>50547950
Debunked by the bridge scene where she says "I-I loved you" and by Rei.
Next cuck cope?
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>>50547459
This merely confirms that that Sotsugou is the final end game and Satokomis Rika-focussed but Ryukishi says the relationship is so strong that a phrase can’t even neatly label it
You debunked yourself extremely hard.
The end.
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>>50548165
>>Her romantic relationship with K1
....which never happened!
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>>50547950
Wow this is wrong.
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>"I-I loved you"
>literally past tense
Not beating the allegations.
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>>50548238
Except in the Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni kakeras and its crossover universes.
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>>50548251
All failed Kakeras and dead ends.
Shitsugou is the final true good end. I don’t like it but it’s the end, it’s the final truth. The ultimate Higurashi no Kek.
Ryukishi laughs at you when you cry,
Until he retcons it again. Hack.
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>>50548269
Good thing it's canon in Sotsugou then.
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>>50548251
Not even once.
>>50548281
It isn't.
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>>50548281
Yes the whole point of Sotsugou is Satoko x Rika.
That’s what you meant right? Not some k1 sideshow that never even matters lmao. You lack love. Goat.
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>>50548322
Satoko lacks romantic love for Rika, while you seem to lacking in media literacy sadly.
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>>50548341
Wrong.
Leaving aside the obvious obsessional romantic love she shows in shitty Sotsugou anime we have this proof here from the Hack.
>>50547459
It exceeds romantic love. It can’t be neatly labelled. It’s just that powerful.
You lack a brain. Fucking scum. Stay in your lane and don’t argue with your superiors. You are simply a joke in these threads.
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>>50548388
There was the need for it to be impossible for a romantic relationship between the two.
Simply impossible. Word of god has spoke. The SatoRika ship has been forever sacrificed and decanonized for the sake of an eternal SatoKei victory: ABSOLUTE KINO.
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>>50548410
Italianon tier poster.
Take your meds.
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>>50548586
No rebuttal, as expected.
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>>>/vg/553022234
leave /vn/ alone
thanks
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Tsumihoroboshi is the first chapter where the translation feels off, it's like they dumbed it down for no reason and don't expect people to remember Meakashi. For example Shion didn't say Oryou's name twice, she just said 'baa-san' once.
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>>50537663
>>50544740
>>50546684
BTW just wanted to add there's a theory I saw that Satoko suffers from Anxious-Preocupied attachment from losing Satoshi which is a good explanation for why she's so obsessed with Rika in Sotsu / Meguri because when they lived together Rika inadvertently took Satoshi's place as a caring caregiver she could trust
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>>50547950
>Not once is the love portrayed as romantic and you know it.
Right because Keiichi thinking about how he wants to spend the rest of his life seeing her smile while digging teppeis grave isn't obvious enough or that it was her smile that he saw the very first day he came to the village that restored the color back in his life. Do you need the story to hold your hand with a image in the right hand corner showing you what emotions are being expressed and how you the reader should react you fucking autist?
> she admits it as much.
She admits to Keiichi that she wanted him to take the spot Satoshi had for her but realized it was wrong to try to do that and that he could never be her Nii-Nii before admitting she loved him. It's pretty fucking simple to understand unless you're purposely being retarded.

>She's talking metaphorically in her fit of rage, you retard
Except she literally isn't you fucking retard, she shoves Keiichi off the bridge fully believing it is a demon taking his form after killing him. But this just shows you're a secondary retard who's never read the VN promptly kill yourself as soon as possible
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>>50548597
Don't expect anything besides shitposting from troons who've never even read the VN anon
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>>50548597
Sorry I don’t live here 24/7 and I see no need to argue with trash that says ABSOLUTE KINO.
You live on the /tv/ board in 2012? Worthless.
>>50550252
The point is the VN is not the true end anymore, accept your saviour that is Shitsugou.
Honestly why you even get this upset over the lore is amazing. This franchise lost its way a long time ago, just enjoy the ride and don’t worry about the canon too much. If Ryukishi needs more cash he’ll change it all again.
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>>50550250
nta You're coping hard. Keiichi says "our" a lot, our happy days will continue after Teppei dies, our club activities...etc. He's referring to the whole squad not just him with Satoko. MioKeii is the ultimate Keiichi ship.
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>>50550721
He talks about how much fun "we" had in the beginning before he goes off talking about how everything changed the day Satoko came over and cooked bento for him, saying how he vowed to have a place within her heart even if that means being her Nii-Nii before ending it with him saying he'll take back his sunny days and spend them at his leisure.
This may be hard to understand as a retard but this scene is an example of how selfish Keiichi can be with his feelings, that's kinda the whole point of this chapter that his love for Satoko has become borderline obsessive to the point where he never stops to talk to her one on one about what SHE wants and instead goes off on his own to solve everything himself because that's what HE wants. If Satoko had any idea that Keiichi was about to fucking murder someone for her she'd immediately end that right then and there as that's the LAST thing she'd want from someone she loves to do for her.
>MioKeii is the ultimate Keiichi ship
The most reddit ship imaginable, just because tomboys give her a boner doesn't mean Keiichi loves her
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Honestly, Satoko might be the most boring character to obsess over.
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>>50551324
No that's Mion and I say this not as a Satokofag
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>>50551369
Mion threw bricks at people at least
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>>50551369
Satoko is unlikable and has an annoying voice but she at least gets some screen time, Rika on the other hand is very likable/intriguing but doesn't do shit until the answer arcs. Mion/Shion are pure rizz and have shit to do in both arcs, Rena makes Onikakushi a haunting chapter for new readers. Keiichi is... uh, he exists.
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>>50551324
Guess someone had a really bad relationship with their own sister....
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>>50550854
>"completely different from romantic feelings"
Get fucked. She's the most helpless out of the whole group and had a mental breakdown in class so Keiichi was willing to kill for her, that doesn't mean he's in love or anything like that.
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>>50552569
>One character can't have think one thing at the beginning of the story and then think a different thing by the end!!1!
Lmao you're such a fucking loser you might as well ignore pretty much every single story ever made then. Keiichi also says in that very same thought that he's never felt these feelings before, a 14 year olds boy idea of a romantic feelings is very different from what romantic feelings actually are. He mentions that it's a warm gentle feeling in his chest, that he isn't nervous or panicky about being with Satoko but calm, relaxed, simply happy. If you think every single couple out there are constantly on their nerves end with their heart panicking just being around them then you've clearly never been in a relationship before, then again I'm not really suprised if you can't even see the love between Satoko and Keiichi LOL!

>She's the most helpless out of the whole group and had a mental breakdown in class so Keiichi was willing to kill for her, that doesn't mean he's in love or anything like that.

You know who else was helpless and having a mental breakdown?
Rena.
Mion.
But does he become as obsessed and protective about saving them? No, he keeps his wits about him and doesn't go fucking insane over their suffering. And it's preciesly because they don't hold a deeper place in his heart compared to Satoko that he's able to stay somewhat rational and even save them in the end, the only reason he didn't murder Teppei in Minagoroshi was because he had faint memories of his previous loop when he DID kill Teppei and having Shion freak out helped him calm down and learn to be more cool about it.
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uhhhhhh what the fuck??? this doesn't make any sense keiichi said Mion wasn't his friend first but then he said she was?? wut???
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>>50552634
>Rena
>But does he become as obsessed and protective about saving them? No,
Because she's not powerless, she casually murders Rina and Teppei.
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>>50552983
Satoko is able to single-handedly wipe out the entire mountain dog division with her traps alone. She's not powerless.
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>>50552994
Broccoli or cauliflower?
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>>50550529
Kino was not used on /tv/ in 2012.
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>>50533413 (OP)
Bratoko
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>>50553936
Whatever /tv/ archivist.
Your post is SHIT because you lack love.
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Umineko is all about love and yet it's shit.
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Umineko is about burying your head in sand and saying "it's fine"
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Umineko is about burying your head in the sand yet the true fun begins when you become a #truther
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Umineko is about how Ryukishi doesn't like actual mysteries.
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>>50556660
fat cat thighs...
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>>50556788
Higurashi was a more coherent mystery story but Umineko made me feel more, by the end Ange kinda stomped my soul.
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ryukishi07 is really remarkable. he's like... the worlds first "lolicon" guy to get so into girls that he got into what they grow into. it's really something. I didn't think that could happen.

every woman in umineko is like. ok here's a little girl. and then here's the conditions that patriarchy inflicted on her as she grew up into a woman and here's the woman who she now is. he just got so so into what happens to a girl that he got into women.
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>>50557921
Where'd you copypaste this from? I'd guess reddit from the content by the lapslock seems more tumblr
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>>50558798
Twitter
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>>50556975
Being stomped by that warpig could really end a man. Fat tank powered by money and hatred and schizoprenia. Not only that but she was born ginger in Japan.
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I really didn't like Keiichi vs Rena in Tsumihoroboshi-hen, hopefully they did it better in the anime. The foreshadowing was as subtle as a brick to the head, I mean you knew from the water gun fight that they'll eventually duel. The police anime-gasping like it's a DBZ fight was goofy as hell but some of the kidnapped kids cheering for Rena was just bad writing. Then there's the weird flirty KeiRena banter, it honestly felt like the stakes were lower than in the water gun fight. Ryukishi isn't good at action scenes, his characters apparently have infinite stamina and can't land a hit on each other in a 10-15 minutes fight because they're just sooo evenly matched! Oh yeah, Keiichi sucks ass, he can't do anything on his own other than cry all day. Tsumihoroboshi-hen had a strong start and a weak end. As a concept I think their duel would've worked better if it happened at the dam construction site and they were all alone at the start, with their friends showing up near the end and hearing the metal clashes from a distance.
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>>50559920
No the anime is just crap in comparison to the anime, they hit a low part of the budget or something unfortunately during that Tsumi arc.
It's been over a decade since my first read but I remember being fully in on the despair and felt the bad end coming. So the shift felt really good for me. It wasn't necessarily good action sure but it describes the emotions perfectly.
>cry all day
You're being pretty facetious here unless you really believe that.
>I knew from the watergun fight they'd eventually duel
I don't really believe that. It's foreshadowing in hindsight but up until then when did anything like a duel ever happen? They murder each other and drop each other they don't duel. Like they've played so many club games at this point why would you suddenly see the watergun fight in particular and guess they'd duel? Maybe pick up on an adversarial rivalry being set up between the two but a duel? I'm not saying it's impossible or anything it's just weird.
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>>50561215
Keiichi's inner monologue was going on about how he wishes the water gun fight would never end and that he wishes they could do it again some day, also Rena finishes with a melee-style water slash that the narration compares to a blade of water. In Onikakushi-hen when Keiichi was going insane with Satoshi's baseball bat, Rena *did* confront him with her Japanese machete and he nearly dropped the bat in terror. Tsumihoroboshi-hen looked like a Rena focused chapter from the start so basically my theory was that if the roles are reversed, Keiichi would fight her with Satoshi's bat and that would probably be the climax of the chapter cuz how do you go from trying to kill someone with a machete to normal club activities? You don't.
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https://x.com/deitysexual/status/2009925932354883952
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Reminder not to eat authentic Asian food, only eat it if it's made by a white person in a first world country.
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furude nipa
cant post nipa anywhere anymore :(
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>"read umineko it's good!!"
>look inside the cat box
>trannies
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>>50568085
IDBLT
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>>50567036
Nani?
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>>50569417
I Don't Blow Loli Toes?
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They can't get enough of each other...
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>>50572866
What's the point in shipping married characters? We know that K*ichii fumbled so hard that he doesn't end up together with any of his childhood friends. It's a tragedy.
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Recently finished rereading Umineko and some things are still not clear to me. Why did Rudolph think he was going to get killed (prompting him to want to confess that Battler is Kyrie's son)? It seems totally out of the blue to me
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>>50573325
Because he lied to Kyrie and told her their baby died so he could be with Asumu or whatever he name was and was kinda joking about him being killed when he reveals the truth to both Kyrie and Battler
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>>50574069
Why would he randomly 'joke' about that? He seemed pretty serious as well to me
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>>50573056
NTR is really common in Japan
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>>50574616
i mean, having seen all you have of kyrie, do you REALLY believe that she wouldn't go and fucking murder him over it?
the answer would be 'no', but rudolf doesn't really get just how obsessed she is with him
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angry rosa is so hot...
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>>50574810
A cousin of mine is living that Rosa bf dream life. She screams at him in public without any shame and she used to make him sleep on a mattress on the balcony when she got angry at him, then she made him sleep on the balcony a whole summer because the dog liked the couch too much. They're like a lesbian couple. Lucky bastard, I wish someone cared enough about me to get angry.
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>>50573056
Reminder that Keiichi never ever fulfilled his promise to these two.
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>>50576250
That's fine because nobody cares about Keiichi that much !
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>>50574695
Ah, it didnt click in my head that he thought Kyrie would be the one to 'murder' him, that makes some more sense.
I also am still confused about what Bern and Lambda's exact roles are in the story. They seem like:
>concepts 'certainty' and 'miracle' made into personas
>two girls (Rika and Satoko at later age?) discussing the forgeries and writing their own
>Bern is also Ikuko's cat somehow, and Lambda is associated with candy but explicitly not a Miko of Ikuko
Especially the fact that Bern has a real-world presence and Lambda seems not to is confusing to me, since within the story they are presented as two best friends/enemies or whatever.
Also, is Williard supposed to be Tohya reading through the manuscript and trying to solve it? Or just a representation of Van Dyne's rules like Dlanor is a representation of Knox?
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>>50576250
He's truly the Demon Lord.
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>>50576361
>is Williard supposed to be Tohya reading through the manuscript
Willard and Dlanor are supposed to represent a set of rules that may be used by the reader.
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>>50575884
lucky
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>>50576361
Lambdadelta is actually an old reference to the King James Bible, so she's also a physical object. In the story she's the personification of Maria's and Eva's diaries(and also literally the bible in the case of Maria)

Every metacharacter is actually a part of the writing/reading process. Bern is messageboard rumors and speculation(what COULD have happened), Lambdadelta is the hard facts and evidence, Beatrice is the message bottles, Dlanor and Williard are the rules of the story, Featherine is the writer, and Battler is the reader.

They have some other roles occasionally or originally too. Bern was Ikuko's original reader(the forgery messageboards), Lambda was Bern's reader when she wrote a forgery herself(the evidence examining the speculation and ensuring it was plausible), Battler swapped roles and became a writer when he turned into a Sorceror and his reader was Ange, who was also Maria's reader.

From this point of view all the witch/magic/meta scenes are actually key parts of the story, they're not literal but they're also not arbitrary or made up. Bern killing Lambda is a speculation being accepted as fact and destroying the evidence's credibility, Batter punching Bern is him denying the speculation and refusing to put it into his story, Bern creating Erika is the forgers trying to assemble the truth out of fragments, and even Bern reconstructing Lambda is the evidence being pieced back together over time by investigators, etc...
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>>50576612
cool headcanon bro
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>>50576638
[red]Everything I've said is the Truth.[/red]
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I thought ΛΔ was a reference to chiral reactions in chemistry
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>>50576612
This definitely makes some sense, I guess in that case the reader would be Tohya rather than Battler?
>doesn't know what is happening in ch 1-4
>reads the forgery in ch 5 and regains most of his memory
>writes his own forgery along with Ikuko in ch 6
Also, Lambda being a King James bible does not explain her strong connection with candy
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>>50573056
>Caring about anything made by Ryukishi after 2016
Anything Higurashi related that came out after Kokoroiyashi-hen can be safely ignored
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>>50576749
Actually I guess the candy connection could come from Maria's diary as Maria loves candy and associates it with magic as well
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lingji and miyao shouldve had sex on screen
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>>50576753
this guy gets it
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>>50576753
>Kokoroiyashi-hen
What's that?
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>>50577343
A manga that takes place after the events of Matsuribayashi that serves as a alternative epilogue to Saikoroshi or any of the future shitshows that would be released. This was written fully by Ryukishi himself with this being the only sequel made by him that actually has Hanyuu stick around as a living person (kinda).

This is pretty much the last time you will ever see the club members actually act like their VN selves, i really recommend it anyone who wants a satisfying story set after Matsuribayashi
https://vymanga.com/manga/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-kokoroiyashihen
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>>50576753
>older hanyuu with a turtleneck
stop my dick can only get so erect
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>>50576715
What other character's name is 34 and important to the plot
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>>50578997
Vier Dreizig.
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>Satoko talking shit about the most feminine girl in their group
lol
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>>50579261
The little shit gremlin knows she has no chance against Mion.
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>>50579261
I think Rena acts the most feminine while Mion looks the most feminine. Shion mogs both though.
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>>50579261
Mion is known as a tomboy for a reason retard, she's crass, she acts like a pervy old man, she's the club leader and enjoys doing all sorts of games and competitions. Mion may want to act a bit more feminine but her interests are mostly masculine boyish stuff so Satoko is completely right here.
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Everyone felt more crass than Mion, really.
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>>50580425
Him especially.
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>reviewer claims to have read Umineko in 18 hours
Bullshit. He must've skimmed it, skipped the special episodes and not bothered theorizing.
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>>50580425
nobody else was making period/dick jokes on a regular basis, or threatening to throw Rika into the red light district
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>>50580534
Her*
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>>50580581
True Golden Land patriots only read Legend and accept everything as magic.
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>>50579261
Feminine? Girl?
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>>50582435
Yes.
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>>50580581
Very interesting!
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>>50583302
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>>50583307
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leave /vn/ alone
>>>/vg/554057000
thanks
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>>50583313
who is the slutty lesbian on the left
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The custom Jessica plushie has arrived! Soon the shrine shall be complete…
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>>50580581
But who were you really talking to in your introduction scene Bern?
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>>50580595
Don't you be talking that way about big dick Teppei!
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>>50583589
cute jessie anon! i'm glad someone still cares about her
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>>50583882
She's the main heroine of the story, I don't get why she isn't more popular.
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>>50583912
She’s a bit like Gohda in that you could cut her entirety and it would make no difference,
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>KeiShion: there's absolutely nothing anyone can do to save Satoko!
>Mion: what if we grabbed some shovels and beat Teppei's ass? we could, like, break one of his legs and hospitalize him?
>KeiShion: not a DAMN thing anyone can do about it!!
>Mion: no seriously guys, maybe I could get some Sonozaki thugs to sneak in the Hojo residence and-
>KeiShion: curse your powerlessness all you want Mion!! all I need is 1500 seconds!!!
Shion and Keiichi share a brain cell.
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>>50584104
if they had a kid would that result in two new brain cells or would they all have to share the one?
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>>50584042
Are you kidding? She's the main antagonist, without her there isn't even a story!
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>>50584289
I thought the main antagonist were us, the readers?
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>>50584104
Mion isn't like that at all during these events lol
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>>50583589
>>50583882
Some more Jeshika merch. Have a grand idea for the shrine's finishing touch
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>>50583592
kanon
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>>50583589
Very scuffed Jessie, but any Jessie is good Jessie. Jessie is extremely important to the lore, but she is not Beato.
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>>50584427
Yeah, she does nothing because she doesn't act like a yakuza princess when it really matters. Shion herself could probably arrange a beating through Kasai's underlings, alternatively just get Kasai to accuse Teppei of stealing money with Rina and make Hinamizawa unsafe for him so he books it. There are many ways to solve this without involving the law.
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>>50583734
This was pre-transition.
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L-Lewd!
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What is this retard going on about? Satoko isn't flat.
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>>50585225
>but she is not Beato.
I disagree.
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>>50586361
Rick Beato?
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>>50586374
Beatrice is merely an alterego of Jessica, much like Erika, Shannon, and Kanon.
Her incestuous desires inhereted from Kinzo, as well as brain damage caused by being thrown off a cliff by her stepmother, drove her mad and she simultaneously pursued Battler, George, and even Herself with three separate personalities.
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>>50583734
Satoko agrees.
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>>50586409
Shitty theories about Umineko were ok five years ago.
Let it go.
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>>50586705
It's the only truth that's logically internally consistent.
Umineko is Jessica's game.
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>>50586759
Just stop.
We’ve done shitty theories a million times.
Its done. Let it go. Even Ryukishi let go.
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i for one wish people who want everyone to shut up to take their own advice and just leave the damn thread already
no one's forcing you to sit in it and bitch
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>>50586827
You just sat in the thread and bitched.
If you were to take your own advice you would now leave.
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>>50586844
very witty anon, sure got me
it's now definitely less pitiful to sit in a dying general going "it's no use... just let it go guys..." whenever anyone talks like you're maria going through her edgy teenage phase she never lived to see
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>>50586852
What the fuck are you even talking about you ancient retard.
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>>50586876
not helping your case here
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>>50586878
Just post your Maria images from your decade of browsing these threads until you feel better and then take your meds anon. No need to make up a fake internet argument or anything else to justify it.
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So we're all in agreement that Beatrice is trans right?
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>>50586297
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Notice who wasn't told to "let it go"
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>>50586956
I’m sorry I don’t browse here 24/7
Who do you want me to tell to let it go? Probably the tumblr image right? I don’t even reply to that trash.
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>>50586297
Lolis are basically just skeletons with rubber suits. You could reword that as "I tapped her sternum."
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>>50585225
Well Beato or not the visual novel that claims to be about illusions and misdirections sure shoves her under the rug pretty conspicously
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So is Irie a self-insert for Ryukishi? I kinda got the vibe since his introduction. Pic rel might be the most pedo thing Ryukishi ever wrote, lots of them think it would be okay because they'd do it gently with the kid or something like that.
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>>50587598
nobdoy gives a shit about your blogpost tranny lover go kill yourself faggot
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>>50587235
You can see Rika's cute bumps in the original sprite.
Would feel amazing to touch.
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>>50587903
This.
>normalfaggot twitnigger discovers Ryukishi's taste in real time
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>>50587565
Umineko was written for Sayotrice from the start, but Jessica was a red herring that R07 slowly got bored trying to support, then forgot about almost entirely. She's still Shannon's best friend in the backstory the author claimed multiple times in dialogue but refused to actually write.
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>>50588837
>red herring
Double red herring, her being a red herring is a red herring.
The only evidence that she's not Beatrice is that she's "too obvious" and have "too much evidence" and the real solution has to be way more complicated and obscure.
Couldn't possibly be that the killer is the one that
>looks exactly like beatrice
>is the heiress of the family
>is directly connected to all the accomplices and servants
>is blatantly lying about almost her entire personal life(best friend doesn't exist, love interest doesn't exist, asthma doesn't exist, blindness doesn't exist, tits don't exist, school friends don't exist, etc...)
>spends nearly 100% of her time alone on the island with zero supervision
>is extremely obsessed with love, highly jealous, and able and willing to commit murder for it
>is the literal ONLY CHARACTER to be completely unaffected by Bernkastel during episode 7, to the point where it's so out of place Willard directly points it out to her face and she goes "yeah, haha, that's crazy, what a coincidence!"
>has the exact same backstory as Ikuko
>literally has the exact same face and body proportions of Kanon and Shannon
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>>50588837
>>50588889
Italianon’s shit was badly written because he couldn’t speak English. Your theory is at least as stupid as his stuff.
>R-Ryukishi got bored!
There no point in doing this anymore. It’s over a long time ago. Move on.
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>>50588952
The truth doesn't require your acceptance, it simply is.
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>>50587903
>>50588144
I'm empathetic towards non-offending ones but they shouldn't be around kids.
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>>50589084
Stop projecting weird shit onto the humble maid schizo
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>>50586619
Of course the chud girl she loves deadgendering her aunt.
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>>50589001
So boring.
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The culprit behind the Rokkenjima Massacre has been found and captured by authorities.
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>>50589103
>projecting
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>>50589354
It took me an eternity to find it, I don't know why they cucked out in the console version. Is the word 'gay' offensive?
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>>50589238
Hideyoshi Sam, Eva's brother-in-law and main stockholder of his brother's restaurant chain empire.
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>>50589354
>>50587598
>>50586297
>>50583734
>>50583302
>>50579261
Why is the newtard playing with ADV and PS2 sprites?
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>>50589203
Chug girl got sexually abused in all fragments by Teppei, she must cope about being so pathetic.
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>>50589640
Troonppei didn't sexually abuse the currently happening in Ukraine girl, trans girls can't do that.
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Satoko has to cope about the abuse by imagining Teppei as trans.
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>>50589634
I like text at the bottom and PS2 sprites.
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>>50589398
What's it say in JP? It seems to me like it could be the other way too, a simple inuendo that the trannylater wanted to spice up.
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>>50589945
What would she imagine aunt Troonppei as if she wasn't trans?
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>>50589945
>>50589640
>>50586921
>>50586619
>>50583734
Behead troons
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What's this dudes deal? Clearly his intent is to be as abrasive as possible, posting unfunny garbage and wet blanketing any discussion when it manages to sneak through. Regular playbook, but he's been at it for years. Was he dumped? Made fun of? What drove him to this specific, consistent level of niggerdry?
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>>50591109
Constant seething due to having a micro penis and a hatred for Satoko, him and Rikaschizo both came from the sharty and /vn/. Pic related was his face dox a while ago
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>>50591125
What do the glasses frames hold on if he has no ears?
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>>50586921
Kinzo tapped that boypussy.
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>>50588889
it's fun to think that where might be an alternate solution like this, but realistically it's best left to theorizing. if ryukishi ever wrote an episode or sequel where jessica or rosa is beatrice it would be a disaster.
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>>50591425
He already wrote eight episodes where Jessica is Beatrice though.
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>>50591425
I'm not the Jessicatrice retard, BUT-!

Rosatrice is dumb, but I think Jessicatrice has room for a great tragedy. He wrote this supposedly epic romance between Kanon and Jessica that was supposed to compete with George and Battler, but obviously couldn't come close. Why was it even there? The lame explanation was that he just gave up and didn't want to bother, but the fun explanation is that Sayo and Jessica's relationship is waiting there offscreen for us to detail.
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>>50591924
Ironically in Jessicatrice Kanon is both the most fake and insane love interest, and also probably the healthiest as it's a demented form of self love at it's core. All of Beatrice's problems come from self hatred and over dependence on others, if she fell in love with herself she might actually take some responsibility for her own life for one and do something about her problems instead of waiting for someone to come rescue her and solve all her problems for her.
Tragically this is contrasted with Erika, an active highly aggressive Jessica expy who isn't afraid to speak er mind and take what she wants but who is hated and rejected by everyone. Beatrice's social anxiety manifested? Or merely her id run amuck?
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Fast /jp/ today
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>>50592062
How long until you stop, budget Italianon?
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>>50592245
It's been four years so far and I'm still not losing interest.
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>>50592201
Nevermind. We're getting autosaged?
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>>50592245
Ghodatrice is the truth
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>>50592261
Looks like it, weird I wonder why?
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See you in hell.
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>>50592261
oh you haven't heard? /jp/ added a age limit on threads, they kill themselves after 2 weeks now
yes it is really, really dumb
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>>50592472
No I didn't hear. Kind of no reason to it because old but bumped threads are just going to be recreated but okay.
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>>50592472
Another move that appeases to generalfaggots, just what 4chan needed.
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never mind I love this retard Keiichi
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>>50591109
Same reason as to why Satoko became an evil witch. Abuse and neglect.
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>>50593330
Actually it's the hard sex with Keiichi.



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