Shane Parrish: Morgan, you’ve been incredibly successful and sold over 10 million books. What drives you today? 

Morgan Housel: Well, you’ve been incredibly successful too, Shane. I’ve looked up to you for years as well. I think that’s an important thing to bring up because what has driven me are people like you and others, James Clear, Michael Lewis, people who I’ve really looked up to but not been so crazy to say, “I want to be that person one day,” both because everyone should just do it in their own way [and because] I think there’s a difference between envy and aspiration. You can be really inspired by someone’s success without envying them. I can name half a dozen people that I’ve really looked up to and said, “Man, they’re a good role model,” but the important thing is I don’t envy them.