/anthro/ - Anthropomorphic

I could see why people consider it. It gets the most attention easily.

SFW/NSFW is not an artistically healthy framing to adopt fur the average artist. I, first and furemost, draw whatever the fluff I want, the last thing that enters my mind at any stage of the process is whether I'm going to draw something "Safe Fur Work" or not. But I've totally lost track of how many weeks it's been since I've last attempted to draw anything. I blame Woke fur all of this.

>>88587 (OP) 
i do not draw porn. pornography has negatively impacted my brain, and causes inner turmoil. as a result, i have chosen not to draw it, because i do not want to be part of a problem that hurts other people. that and i become so attached to my OCs that i do not want to see them in porn, and have gotten upset when people draw my characters in pornographic ways. its part of why i dont post on 4chan anymore
then again i draw violence and edgy stuff, so maybe i am a hypocrite
>>88593
the only times i see the acronyms SFW/NSFW used is mainly by coomers, at least in recent times

>>88587 (OP) 
@grok what is the source of this image?
asking on behalf of @purrgem

BLEED OUT FAGGOT

A big thing that would put me off of drawing porn and posting it is that everything on the internet can be archived. What if 30 years from now someone shows my future kids the furry smut I drew when I was in my 20s? Imagine how awkward it would be to see porn your parents drew. I know it's unlikely but with how many freaks are on the internet, it's still a possibility 
And then I also wonder, what would my future wife think? Even if she were fine with it, it's not like I would go around telling every woman I meet I draw porn, I'd naturally have to keep it a secret during some of the relationship, and that's of course no good. 
I don't draw porn, and I don't even really have much of a desire to draw it at all, but that's kinda the biggest deterrent. I don't really have any moral issues with it, if people want to draw porn, I don't care, so long as they aren't showing it to minors or anything like that. It's kinda retarded to police what other people draw

>>88643
Unless you're signing furry porn with your full government name, i don't see how this would be a problem

>>88643
cringe
>>88646
>what are database hacks

>>88594
How has porn negatively impacted your brain? Go on, explain to me how exactly porn... RAPED... you... because I really don't understand what you're talking about at all.
>the only times i see the acronyms SFW/NSFW used is mainly by coomers
Not something I've seen myself, but I don't see the pertinence of this either way.
>>88643
You're totally insane. Normal people are dead, normal people remain dead.

>>88647
???
Irrelevant

>>88648
>increased libido and almost constant desire to jack off
>has desensitized me and i feel my mind slipping into being aroused by weird stuff
>i have intrusive thoughts sometimes stemming from pornography its lingo, ex. having to make sure i don't say some weird shit via freudian slip
>wastes time
>i am a sex-negative person, but that obviously conflicts with my behavior
you probably don't see any of these as a negative, but i am a moralfag so it obviously makes issues with me at times
>>88649
you can cross-reference things like emails and stuff across different leaks and sometimes can identify people's identity that way. normally nobody is insane enough to go after you specifically, but all it takes is someone to make an aggregated database of people's info to put you on a roster (like the ashley madison hack that resulted in a search engine showing if a person's email was used to make an account there)

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>>88643
>What if 30 years from now someone shows my future kids the furry smut I drew when I was in my 20s?
Just tell them it's an AI fake.
>>88648
THE MADMAN—Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek normies! I seek normies!"—As many of those who did not believe in normies were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Have they got lost? asked one. Did they lose their way like children? asked another. Or are they hiding? Are they afraid of us? Have they gone on a voyage? emigrated?—Thus they yelled and laughed.

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither are the normies?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed them—you and I. All of us are their murderers. But how did we do this?"

>>88658
>Just tell them it's an AI fake.
that's actually a good counter point

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>>88659
And when everything's fake, nothing will be!

>>88657
You're right about that one. Well, moreso neutral.
>>i am a sex-negative person, but that obviously conflicts with my behavior
Not really.

>>88587 (OP) 
In addition to porn being bad fur you, it seems aesthetically less useful. If I go into the art thread right now I can look at a lot of cool drawings and appreciate them no matter what mood I'm in. Porn is only able to be "appreciated" when you are horny and then it goes away.

>>88668
>Not really.
i dislike promiscuity, yet i am a promiscuous person. that is a conflict i have within myself
>>88673
tsmt. it also depreciates how much a value an artist and their work, because i get reminded of that time i wanked off to their stuff

>>88673
No.
>>88674
Are you now? I don't see what internet porn would have to do with that.

>>88676
i should have looked up the word definition befurehand, because looking now i definitely misused that word. no i am not promiscuous, but i am more prone to being aroused than i would like

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>>88673
trvke svpa nova
have a lick anon

>>88587 (OP) 
I did a few times, but it never felt right, like I was confurming to what I thought an audience wanted. I would consider doing it in the future fur anatomy studies I wouldn't share with the Internet. 
Goofslop is bad developmentally, as I've noticed that artists who primarily do NSFW start making critical anatomy mistakes and they plateau. And it can't be good mentally if that's your audience and livelihood, either. 

>that and i become so attached to my OCs that i do not want to see them in porn, and have gotten upset when people draw my characters in pornographic ways. its part of why i dont post on 4chan anymore
The way some people treat all OCs as "porn actresses" is disheartening. Some people created them fur that purpose, but many did not; drawing them is somebody's way to relax, or vent, or imagine. Cringe as it is to say, my characters and their little world are a piece of my soul, and I cherish them a lot. If somebody came up to you and was like "yeah I want to see your lovely fox wife with gigantic tits and lezzing out with my OC," I would feel a bit hurt by that desu.

>>88680
Now would be a good time to properly define 'I'.

>>88587 (OP) 
I want to try drawing body horror/gore since it's relevant to my story, assuming we are talking about that as well. Or is this just a discussion about porn/nudity?

>>88688
That sounds fun.

>>88688
Well I feel like most people immediately assume porn when they hear "NSFW". Kinda unfurtunate that horror/gore and porn are both lumped under the same umbrella term. Same thing with artistic nudity.

>>88673
All very true. Though sometimes I find it a little weird how people will yap so much about how porn is bad fur you. People will complain about having a porn addiction like, bro, just don't look at it lol. Same thing with fat people, just don't eat so much lol. I'm not disagreeing that it's not good fur you but still

>>88688
draw more lasses in bikinis

>>88691
>Well I feel like most people immediately assume porn when they hear "NSFW"
Probably because it makes up a large portion of not just NSFW material, but art on the internet as a whole
>>88699
If you want, then feel free to suggest a character

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>>88702
the big one...

>>88673
Goofing to the art thread right now.

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>>88703
Understood

>>88587 (OP) 

sometimes, but i never actually do it. ive drawn some titties here and there and there was one time i sculpted a fully nude female body in Zbrush, but besides, i've never dedicated myself to it.

i don't know, almost everything furry is porn. it gets kinda tiresome. i prefer dedicating my effurt to something like a  videogame instead. a real one that just happens to feature funny animals, not just another porn game or visual novel.

>>88594
>>88673
>Porn is bad fur you
>Proceeds to scrool 8 hours a day

>>88725
That's Aryan

>>88726
Porn being bad fur you is a retarded tradcath Latinx meme anyway. At worst it might make you perceive women differently if you're looking fur a gf, but who cares about 3d foids anyway. Jerking it fur 20 minutes a day is significantly better than scrolling social media fur 5 hours a day. Your brain doesn't have some self-destruct button that is activated if it catches you goofing. They just say jacking off is bad because it's in le Bible.
That doesn't stop them from being massive sexual degenerates doe gek

>>88727
Pornography does a lot of things to you. It is a time waster, it drains your energy (so you are less likely to do other productive things), it fluffs with your brain and inevitably causes you to go down further fetish paths due to requiring constant novelty, and it messes with your dopamine loops. I do not care about it in any moral science, it is scientifically bad fur you. You might be mistaking masturbation and pornography, masturbation is fine in regular amounts and is very natural. Introducing porn into the equation is the real problem. There is historical precedent fur blasting pornography over the airwaves of your enemies, it was done in 2002 in the middle east fur instance.

>>88729
Any moral stance*, I am distracted

>>88727
Porn probably is le bad doe. Its pretty evident it causes negative psychological problems.

>>88729
What you're describing is just instant gratification. This is the same shit boomers say to justify video games being bad fur you. There's nothing unique or special about porn that makes it bad fur your brain, if anything, post-nut clarity is really nice if you're trying to do something but are distracted by lewd thoughts (which will happen whether or not you jack off, because you're a male). Porn is a time waster in the same way video games are, it can become an unhealthy addiction, but if it's just to relax, who gives a shit? "Every second of every day must be spent making money fur Moshe Shekelstein" is a stupid boomer meme anyway. You cannot make the blanket statement of "porn is bad fur you" then turn around and say video games or social media are fine.

>>88731
I <3 vagueposting

>>88733
If you want me to be more specific insecurity, erectile dysfunction, misinfurmation about sex, and as you said your view of the opposite sex can be ruined.

>>88729
>masturbation is fine in regular amounts and is very natural. Introducing porn into the equation is the real problem.
doesn't the porn just play in your mind instead

>>88734
That's literally just social media

>>88736
Didn’t say that was good either. But you don’t see people going to therapy over that like you do porn.

>>88732
Yeah but video games don't activate the same parts of the brain as crack, ecstasy, and porn do

>>88739
Social media is famous fur never causing any harm to mental health. There has never been reports of people committing suicide over it. There was never a huge campaign to address the issue of how social media detrimentally affects the lives of teenagers and how they perceive themselves and life  
>>88740
Can you explain why this is bad? Do you think our brain has parts that should just never be activated? This doesn't make it analogous to crack at all, it just sounds scary if you know absolutely nothing about the brain 
Did you know that exercise or listening to music activates the same parts of the brain as meth? Whoa! Avoid those!

>>88735
Imagination and seeing are different things. When you look at porn, your brain doesn't have to do any work in the imagination department. When using only your mind you have to create the whole scenario, exercise your brain, etc.

>>88743
Stunt on these hoes

>>88751
I'm exercising my brain right now ;)

>>88594
wait femcel cat yiffs are out there????

>>88782
If true that makes me sad, I especially dislike porn with OCs I'm attached to.

>>88734
>>88739
Feminist moron.
>>88743
>Social media is famous fur never causing any harm to mental health. There has never been reports of people committing suicide over it. There was never a huge campaign to address the issue of how social media detrimentally affects the lives of teenagers and how they perceive themselves and life  
All true.

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>>88784
well, someone drew a nude image of her wearing a sexy nun outfit on /i/. i said the artstyle and effurt was nice, but i didn't like how she was portrayed. i just took a screenshot of her face. a lot of other anons were threatening to draw more porn of her, but i came in calling everyone a furfag, but it was not meant to be taken seriously, as i was also posting furry art myself

>>88822
erm actually it was /ic/, i got them mixed up

>>88822
That's a very unkind thing to say. They should've responded by commissioning an animated feature-length film of the Femcel-anon characters being sexually abused and degraded by fursuiters.

>>88796
>>88825
this is why we need feminism

>>88826
Ehhhhh, no. Not at all.

>>88825
>Femcel-anon characters being sexually abused and degraded
that's technically lore accurate, and something 4chan would do if they could affurd to commission such a thing and weren't shitskin 3rd worlders
>>88826
>feminism
no, not even once. that said, while i don't think they should even have the right to vote, i don't think treating them like shit fur no reason is a good thing either

>>88825
thats aryan actually nyagger

Femcel is the anfoos asexual queen.

>>88832
You're our transsexual queen.

>>88830
I wonder which member of the Stockholm rap scene will post on this webfurum next.
>>88829
>i don't think treating them like shit fur no reason is a good thing either
You've gone Woke.

>>88822
Asking people to not draw porn of a character on 4chan is just an invitation fur them. I remember Starrtoon's fursona was posted on /ic/ and anons proceeded to draw lewd images of her specifically because she's anti-porn. There was actually one where she had a really nice ass, I obviously can't post it but you can find them on e6

>>88843
>Asking people to not draw porn of a character on 4chan is just an invitation fur them.
doesn't matter, they will do it anyways. they drew femcel like that and i never once brought up my objections to them doing so befurehand

>>88845
Yea but asking them not to only encourages them. I'm not saying it's good or justified, that's just how people there are. The best thing you can do is to not engage

>>88850
>The best thing you can do is to not engage
that's basically what i did, i just didn't reply to anyone after that image

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>>88843
>he wasn't lying

>>88852
i need to start a video game company based in japan so that way i can DMCA anyone drawing things i don't like of my characters

>>88843
Damn. They beat me to it. Albeit I wasn't going to draw anything explicit, just 'toon with exaggerated tits to elicit a reaction.

>>88859
From whom?

>>88861
probably me

>>88594
>pornography has negatively imacted me yet i stay on site with pornography

>>88864
esl nyaggas be like:

>>88865
Like what?

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>>88866
like you

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>>88843
>>88852
nyagga its just two circles
goofcacas have no standards

>>88859
You know, nothing is stopping you from doing that now, and I don't think anybody would contest 
>>88869
I'm sorry yure too gay to understand why a huge dragon ass is peak

>Kevin skinwalking mi.

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>>88873
ur both fags lel

>>88871
Is peak what?

>>88871
She's right

>>88878
Not the fluffing saggy tits cause she’s old 🥀

>>88878
Not a pretty picture.

>>88878
Yes a pretty picture.

>>88878
Breasts are very sad but if the joke is that she's a hag who has saggers then it's pretty funny

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>>88822
>check'd
I have to ask.  Catholic nun or Orthodox nun?

>>88917
catholic i think? i did not save the entire image

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>>88892
>saggers
>>88918
Draw her as an Orthodox nun, then, making the Look of Disapproval ಠ_ಠ at the viewer and post it in /ic/ as a response, then.

>>88919
1. that is a terrible idea
2. this incident happened like over a year ago

>>88920
Isn't the Look of Disapproval her default expression?  Some would say that's normal fur nuns anyway.

I'm not attempting to offend.  The idea just amuses me.

>>88922
maybe. i'm just not going to try to stir shit on a general that already hates me and has drawn porn of my oc in the past

>>88917
>>88918
fur the record, she wasn't wearing a nun outfit, just a sweater and a cross pendant

>>88925
actually i think you are correct, i just may have misremembered her exact outfit, as i was not trying to spend a lot of time looking at it. also GO BACK TO /IC/

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>>88926
I'd rather stay here. It's better

>>88928
>Fureigners in my sekret klub…

>>88928
true

>>88843
As with many things I believe the best defense against that is to not share your characters in spaces where this can happen, ie 4chan and to a lesser extent twitter

>>88878
saggy breasts kino

>>88944
To be entirely fair, putting anything on the Internet anywhere makes it at least possible that someone will do something with it that you don't like.  Restricting it to places like this is unlikely to prevent it furever.  Some people who don't even care about the pr0n aspects might do it just to wind you up, "fur the lulz."  

I try not to worry about things I can't affect.  The alternative is to leave behind the Internet, movies, television, and radio, and live in a cave without electricity.

>>88950
Which is why you want to limit the possibility of your creations coming into contact with such people

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>>88951
They can't do inappropriate things with my creations if I don't create anything.

>>88951
All bets are off the moment your characters leave the confines of your mind.

>>88955
True, though you can still take steps to reduce eventual negative effects by keeping your character niche and not trying to go fur mass appeal

>Do you ever consider drawing NSFW? Why it why not?

Nintendo can't shut down Mario porn and you think you can shut down porn of your OC?

>>88961
>because it bores the catgirl

>>88962
Cygames can keep Western art (insert quotation marks around that word as you see fit) of Umamusume in check well enough, it seems.

>>88966
Huh?

>>88967 
Well enough that all I see in regards to it is artists complaining about getting cease-and-desists.

>>88962
You can't shut it down once it exists, the only thing you can do is try to prevent it from ever being made in the first place

>>88967
You can't spell "umamusume" without "amuse."  Just saying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMBQrOa0ioE[Embed]

>>88888