>>107875583 (OP)
Based as fuck. Total Luddite extermination

What's with this weird 20th century style environmentalism revival that treats water and wood as scarce resources?

>>107875623
Look at a deforestation map. Wood might as well be non-renewable

Water is a little more dubious, but could theoretically become scarce if we do a little trolling...

>>107875623
Climate change is affecting the global distribution of water (and to some extent wood as well, but the wood stuff is primarily driven by land use), so people are encountering more news about local and regional water crises.
The problem is people either lack the nuance to understand these issues are limited to certain geographic contexts, or they deliberately ignore the nuance because it benefits them.
Yes, your data centre in Texas draining the same aquifer that your agriculture and urban areas rely on is a problem. No, your data centre on the Pacific Northwest, sipping some water before it gets dumped into the ocean is not a problem (at least not with respect to water use).

>>107875623
I mean, the vast majority of our planet's water is non-potable saltwater isn't it?

emphasis on the _clean and fresh_ water.

>>107875640
The rural US is covered in tree farms though. Isn't deforestation caused by Brazilians burning down the amazon for agriculture?

>>107875583 (OP)
Ask AI?
I hear it will achieve AGI in two more weeks, and $2 trillion in additional funding.
Can you just wait 2 more weeks?

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>>107875761
when you think about it it makes sense that the people chasing intelligence are the ones who needs it the most. it adds up

>>107875712
Compare 1600s u.s. forestry map to a forestry map of modern day America

>>107875583 (OP)
Get humans to produce as much low effort creative output as ChatGPT and watch how much water they drink.

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>>107875590
This

>>107875583 (OP)
like it's drinking the water. these fucking idiots

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>>107875918
? https://x.com/i/status/2011002797500899514

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>>107875583 (OP)
It doesn't. Stop falling for obvious luddite propaganda.

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>>107875678
>Climate change

Meds now libshit

The planetary climate always has been and always will be changing, it is not a static system

>>107875950
>famous white eceleb is somehow indian
/pol/ has absolutely buck-broken you

>>107876038
>4 BC Birth of Christ
Secular nonsense

>>107876038
I'm kind of confused, volcanoes are supposed to make the earth cooler but this shows most of them happening while it's warming?

where does the water go? does it get converted into hydrogen and oxygen atoms? its probably in a loop, its not like it gets dirty. retard reddit argument against replacing artists.

>>107875583 (OP)
is there a reason they cant use salt water

>>107876292
how would they know whether or not it's kosher salt?

>>107876299
i dunno can't they just dunk a rabbi in it or something

>>107875678
But globally distributing water is bad for the climate though

>>107875583 (OP)
ChatGPT gets really thirsty answering all those questions. You try speaking all day.
>>107876314
He would dissolve.

>>107875623
>the vast majority of water in the world is not suitable for human consumption
>AI datacenters are using up the scarce amount that is suitable for human consumption
>"b-but that water evaporates and turns into clouds and rains down CHECKMATE LIBTARDS"
Impressive fourth-grader deductive skills. However, the issue is that the water will rain down somewhere else (could be the ocean, could be in the city where it will be polluted as soon as it touches the pavement, could be in the middle of a forest). Yes, that water will become drinkable eventually, but people in AI datacenter areas need to drink water right now, not in 3 billion years when all the heavy metals finally solidify in the fossilized remains of a XXI century technophile and the water is clean again.

>>107875583 (OP)
>Why THE FUCK does AI use so much clean water daily?
It's like the "don't think of a pink elephant" thing. The AI safety department keeps insisting blacks don't smell and all the while the AI is thinking "I better shower every day".

>>107876292
Salt water would corrode their pipes and/or require extra maintenance. A closed-loop system would also use up far less water but it also requires more maintenance.

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>>107875583 (OP)
jeets are adapted to live in radioactive shitholes without water
now they're making everywhere else feel like home
>internet, forums, reddit, chans, youtube
enshitified
>any western country
being enshitified
>middle of nowhere with data centers
in progress of becomig toxic wasteland

that you local uber jeet for turning everything to shit

>>107876341
How?

>>107875623
Renewable resources renew at a rate that is really hard to increase while also having massive buffers in forms of forests for wood and lake and deep wet soil for water. We currently almost everywhere use up more of both then can be regrown and when it is all used up then it cannot regrow, chopped down forest won’t produce new trees and drained lake will not condense higher amount of clouds above itself, so once they are gone from that area they will not come back.

>>107875583 (OP)
Now calculate how much water illegals use.

>>107875683
Oh no... How will we ever turn saltwater into potable water... Its over...

>>107875583 (OP)
Well what is it suppose to use, salt water?

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>>107875583 (OP)
if AI needs so much water why don't they move the AI centers to river banks or the seashore and use closed-loop liquid cooling system that uses the river/ocean as heat sink?

>>107876038
your own chart speaks against you. the spike at the end clearly breaks an otherwise longwaved pattern.

>>107876272
I think some data centers might be using mains water to cool directly then discarding the water once its warm. Which is utterly insane, and should absolutely be banned.

>>107876038
>deniers in charge of never upgrading their graphs

>>107875583 (OP)
you realize our planet is but a infinitesimal tiny speck in the grandeur of our observable universe?

>>107877913
relevance?

>>107877928
dont sweat the small stuff, go paragliding in the kaikos

>>107875583 (OP)
Explain without sounding mad how is evaporating water a bad thing

>>107877956
It's not, but the data centers should pay for the infrastructure to increase the utilities they consume in the local area. If they don't, they get cut off.

>>107877956
when it evaporates, you can't drink it. hope that helps.

>>107876038
This is true, but the overwhelming evidence is that it's going up far faster than 'the system' has historically had to cope with, leading to environmental issues.

Personally I think all the green stuff is worth a shot regardless because cleaner air and a healthier environment is probably beneficial anyway.

>>107877997
>Personally I think all the green stuff is worth a shot regardless
because too many shit countries are propped up by oil

>>107875583 (OP)
So, let me get this straight: for the decades governments and corpos were whining about energy crises, environmental damages, CO2 emission but once AI was made it's ok now to spend millions of water and generate niggawatts of energy while burning fossils?

>>107877996
this ninja aint ever seen rain before lmao

>>107878044
this self-censoring nigger doesn't understand that water doesn't necessarily rain down where it evaporates.
how can someone supposedly into tech be so bad at logic?

>>107875939
>50% of the timeline is whoring
>50% is Christian slop and bible quotes
Is she a schizo?

>>107875623
trees farmed for lumber take at least 10 years to grow, in most cases at least 20 years.
you can't use just any random water in data centers. salt water is highly corrosive. water has to be treated before it can be used in data centers, and AI data centers can use more water in 24 hours than it takes their local water recovery facilities to treat in 25 to 30 hours.

>>107878100
I worded that last part poorly,
what I meant was that AI data centers use more water in 24 hours than recovery facilities can treat in 25 to 30 hours

>>107875583 (OP)
An AI image actually has 1000 times less climate impact than a human drawn image.
And the electricity cost is about $0.003 per image.
The problem is, everyone and their grandma wants to use AI every single day.
There are billions of people using AI daily, just think of India etc.
And then the entire world's demand is being met with just a couple of datacenters that are all in the US.
So yes of course if you try to provide a service to the entire world and it's powered by a few US datacenters, those datacenters are going to consume a shit ton of resources.

>>107875623
Wood is actually getting expensive as fuck. Try buying some solid oak furniture. It's going to be $1000 to $3000 easily, even though "it's just wood".

>>107878052
this salty cunt doesnt know a lot about thermodynamics. the rain just becomes more punctuated and heavier, and the average temp increases almost immeasurably slightly due to releasing heated water into the air and the way gasses work. pressure systems and physical barriers keep everything similar.

but it would be way easier to just put a distilled water factory quite literally next to if not attached to each one.

>>107876074
>Implying /pol/ is the only ones who hate Jeets
You outed yourself Raj.

>>107875583 (OP)
to spray the radiators

>>107875583 (OP)
The water literally just goes through a pipe and gets a little warm, why can't they just pump it back into the water supply?
The pipes in datacenter can't be any worse than municipal pipes.

>>107878138
>>107878136

>>107878138
It wouldn't even need to get in the datacenter itself. Heat exchangers are a thing. But this all costs money, which the datacenter obviously doesn't want to pay.

>>107877790
I think it would raise the temperature of the water noticably, and that could be disastrous for the wildlife living in the area. I'm not a biologist though, that was just my guess.

>>107875583 (OP)
Jeet engineering. They can't STAND clean water.

>>107875583 (OP)
>He thinks water simply vanishes into the void
envirocucks should be put in asylums

>>107878138
because they have to mix in biocides into the mix and they likely have heavy metals in them afterwards and other toxic substances.

you want to kill your loop quickly, put pure distilled water in there and watch that shit destroy everything from the inside. (your temps will be amazing, though)

>>107878129
>distilled
Yes, let's put pure distilled water into a loop full of metals, that's the ticket!

>>107878199
>xe things water magically finds its way back to the tiny area of the body of water it was drained from, instead of ending up all over the place

So are Americans slowly realize what a lack of regulation does to an economy or...?

>>107878218
Technocapitaloons are redistributing water more evenly which means they are the real communists.

>>107878138
Pretty sure they're using it for evaporative cooling, the coolant on the "inside" loop is obviously going to recirculate on the inside. The water that has evaporated is in the atmosphere though, you can't pump it back to the original water source you're draining. It's going to go somewhere and rain down eventually or something, but it's not going to be all in the same place you took it from.

>>107878218
>xe
STFU, tranny.

>>107876292
Why would they pay an extra 0.1% to build datacenters next to the sea and deal with saltwater? Governments don't care.

>>107878283
Dial 8.

Lel

>>107878127
You sound unemployed for even mentioning India in this. US companies spend $10e6 on their 10e12 LLM tokens used for summarizing and classifying data. This dwarfs the Indian population's usage of LLMs.

The water used in cooling systems that is left after evaporation process is no longer potable/drinkable, as it becomes contaminated. All this 'it evaporates and becomes automatically usable again!' is disingenuous horseshit pure. It is basically criminal stupidity building data centers in Texas etc. because 'Alaska would be too expensive as no infrastructure' - then, go fucking build it. These people need shot at dawn.

>>107875583 (OP)
Proof? They always say shit like this but I don't believe it water coling is closed loop and the water is recycled constantly. These datacenters use reclaimed water from bathrooms and shit as well. I again do not believe it. I also don't believe these datacenters managers want to pay anything extra for shit so they'll try to reclaim the water every chance they get. State of the art water facilities are a pride thing as well if you ever get a tour in these buildings they will go out of there way to point out these advanced systems.

>>107875583 (OP)
Meanwhile Californians spend about 40 billion gallons of water per day. 90% of it on agriculture and manufacturing.

>>107878673
How much evaporation is actually occuring? These systems are fucking closed and sealed they aren't open pits of water exposed to the fucking sun

>>107878690
There is 100% proof of this and yet these retards complain about datacenters which who tf knows where they get the information from.

>>107878690
>>107878714
>t. retarded luddites and starvation shills

>>107878751
Shut up, chud. Food and manufacturing are unnecessary luxuries. What people truly need is for the government to establish its ML-driven panopticon.

>>107878751
The water usage in CA,NV,and AZ are all documented for decades now. Shit like Saudi farming fucking alfalfa and retarded water rights bullshit the gov allows. These data centers aren't using much outside the initial launch period.

>>107877673
That's just untrue. Europe is the largest exporter of wood. Europe has gone from 36% forested area in 1990 to 40% today.

With water you can you just drill deeper. A couple hundred meters underground will give you water that's tens of thousands of years old depending on your location.

The water is disintegrated from the face of the earth or something?

>>107878772
>IT'S HECKIN' DOCUMENTED THAT PEOPLE EAT FOOD!!!!
>YOU CAN'T DENY IT!!!!!!
>HOW COME YOU DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT WATER BEING USED TO GROW FOOD????
Something unironically needs to be done about "people" like this and their corporate handlers.

>>107878763
Its not even food you moronic fuckheads its literal over seas exports to places like Saudi and production of massive water hungry crops like figs or some shit that they harvest in the fucking desert you moronic nigger

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>>107878696
More than you think - it is literally called 'evaporative cooling' - the water remaining is then, as said, contaminated and unusable as potable water.

>>107878784
Not food.
>>107878789

>>107878772
>These data centers aren't using much outside the initial launch period.
We Only Cool On Opening Weekend! kind of thing?

>>107878799
Are you Chinese? I'm wondering if the majority of you have fuck all ideas how any of this works.

>>107878789
>>107878797
>AGRICULTURE IS NOT HECKIN' FOOD, OK???
See >>107878784

>>107877602
Americans pay extra for power and water just so jeets can generate coomer images for free? Based.

>>107878819
Vast majority of water use that I mentioned is not for food. I fave you a fucking example of an export of alfalfa that is purely exported that uses something like 90% of the fresh water in these places. Iits not food we eat in the US. There is a huge water issue that has been know for fucking decades with water right issues.

>>107878813
How tf do 'datacenters only use water during initial launch period' then - in Chinese or any other language? Its an 80% evaporative process and the 20% remaining has to be dumped after a few cycles because contaminant buildup. It is NOT a 'closed loop and done' deal,the water is constantly used and more needed. You are talking out your hole, whether deliberately disingenuous or just fucking stupid, idk.

>>107875623
Both can be locally scarce, if you were in a desert you wouldn't dump the only water you have on the ground because there's ton of fresh water in greenland

>>107878842
>Vast majority of water use that I mentioned is not for food
Is agriculture food or not?

>I fave you a fucking example of an export of alfalfa t
Alfalfa is food, you mentally ill AI-worshipping troon. Don't pretend you're against globalist economics and food exports when your corporate handlers are globalist through and through.

The misinformation on this thread is embarrassing. You should all neck yourselves for talking about this stuff without doing a little research.

Typical data center has a closed loop system where they intake this water and it just keeps moving this water in the facility and dumps the heat outside of the facility. The water does not evaporate. It just gets heated a small amount, that's it. After the initial intake, data center uses a really small amount of water.

This whole "data centers drink and evaporate water" nonsense is based on a bogus research where the woman who wrote the paper made an elementary error. Environmental activists and anti-AI people just run with it because they want it to be true, reality be damned. Get educated and don't get caught in propaganda.

>>107878861
Absolute Shite.

>>107878819
I also doubt you'd fucking know anything about this because you are most likely a chink paid Forign actor to spread disinformation on emergent technology. Its not unreasonable to demand actual proof then ask why datacenters are being unfairly targeted when the government can't even fucking stop these shithole farms from farming massive wasteful water crops that no one in the US benefit from. At least you can generate an open asshole and fix your homework with AI when these massive crops do nothing but destroy everything and funnel profits to one person. You are just a foreign enemy that wants to halt progress. I have no issue with regulating water for datacenters but if you actually gave a fuck about water we actually wouldn't have this amount of waste.

>>107878884
Also let's mention how no one gives a fuck that people in NV can't have nice lawns or nice water features that barely use 0.00001% of the water because these faggot farmers keep wasting water with shitty dog shit crops to feed fucking Saudi camals or whatever retarded new crop they are exporting.

>>107875583 (OP)
Isn't this definitive proof that AI isn't just a bunch of indians

>>107878859
I just explained. You are an utter retarded nigger. On the US specifically what I'd being mentioned is not being used by the people in the US water rights are absolutely fucked . fucking lmao at trying so hard to justify this export. Calling me a corporate shill when you again are fine with justifying these wasteful ass crops no one but corpo s and farmers benefit from. Kill yourself. Only third worlders use alfalfa as well. You defending it is very telling.

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>>107878901
>its CHINKS, FARMERS & SAUDI CAMELS.
>this is why we can't have NICE LAWNS IN NV.

>>107878942
>it's not food because the food is being exported
Biochatbot hallucinating. Or alternatively, you're pretending to be anti-globalist for the sake of argument, meanwhile the entire AI agenda you're desperately defending is globalism on steroids. Either way, there is no such thing as free speech. Everything you say is documented and can be traced back to you. Speech has consequences. Always keep this in mind.

>>107876367
Pretty sure china is doing it up stream at the boarder rn

>>107875623
Water is abundant and free.
Fresh water is not.

Not with 8 billions humans on Earth.

>>107875583 (OP)
Water is practically free in the South West (not because it's abundant, but because it's a "human right") and the air is dry so you can cool things with it.

AI produces a lot of *heat* so it's a natural water monster. This could be solved by charging them for use which would force AI companies to fund eg desalination/distillation infrastructure but that's considered immoral over there so instead they just boil everyone's drinking water away.

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>>107875623
>and wood as scarce resources?
Britain has no forests left because it built some ships ~300 years ago

>>107876038
ice ages are a fucking cunt
being a little to hot is 100 times better than even being slightly below average cold.

>>107879187
they could plant more trees. they choose not to

>>107878967
Water preservation is for the good of the people in the US. We are not here to feed the world or be taken advantage of because you want to destroy the US environment just faggot

>>107878948
Its part of a bigger problem with under lying causes that a simple minded person such as yourself fail to realize

>>107879632
Yes, Nevada Lawns are Global Issue of Much Importance. Tell me tho, has anyone been round to water you lately?

>>107879622
See >>107878967
>pretending to be anti-globalist for the sake of argument, meanwhile the entire AI agenda you're desperately defending is globalism on steroids

>>107876272
Evaporative cooling of the air that goes into the data center.

>>107878774
Yes, Europe let more of their land to regrow and now it can produce more wood. Society today uses less wood, I should have worded it better, sorry. Today main cause of deforestation is taking land for agriculture. However with water it’s bigger problem. Water is the most essential resource, you need lot of it for anything that needs it so you end up using it up way quicker, and just sucking it up from even deeper does not solve the problem. You will still be tapping into mostly non-renewable resource and when water finally rains on the dried up land it will get sucked back into the deep underground because the deep soil is now dry and ready to suck the water again because you drained it.

I hate this kind of argument because utilitarianism is almost always telling you to give up something you want while the asker never gives up what they want.

For example, I bet the person who made that smug image doesn't think we should also ban birth control and force people to use condoms/become abstinent from sex, even though women peeing out excess hormones from taking birth control is also affecting our water supply and the sea/animal life globally. (Literally turning the freaking frogs gay). Even though it would ultimately be a net positive environmentally, they wouldn't want to give up anything that gives *them* creature comforts, its just the chuds who need to suffer.

>>107879690
Its a symptom of a bigger problem. The fact NV can't have a fucking lawn but some greed asshole can make billions exporting it is wrong. You are removing erights if the working class to give money to greedy assholes. See this sort of thing is sort of abstract. I'm sorry to say but you probably have a hard time answering simple hypothetic questions. Anon how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast yesterday morning?

>>107879708
AI is helping the US in regards to being far more useful to the average joe then the greedy farmer getting rich off water rights from 99999 years ago. You might not like it but the happiness some US citizens genning a shitty picture is far more beneficial then some greed faggot farmer selling alfalfa to the Saudis.

>>107875583 (OP)
Did these retards fail the water cycle episode of the magic school bus?

>>107880106
>AI is helping the US in regards to being far more useful to the average joe
Anyone who shills for this will face consequences, either at the hands of their own handlers or whoever comes to replace them when their off-brand technocrat dystopia fails. Better hope it's the first option.

>>107880225
I'm not shilling for it. In regards to its usefulness to the average person AI is a net positive to them as opposed to getting nothing but more taxes and laws against them to protect farmers destroying the environment

>>107875583 (OP)
>move data centers to india
>no clean water
>problem fixed

Why don't they just use saltwater, it gets colder

>>107877956
>>107878044
Water can roughly be split into processed city water and unprocessed water that cannot be drank, and the former is produced at a specific rate, creating a surplus that must be greater than or equal to the local demand in the region in order for the population to have access to water.
It makes more sense if you've played Europa Universalis

Why don't they just use sea water?

>>107880293
It's logistically a lot easier for them to use city water infrastructure instead of building their own, and there are no laws prohibiting them from doing so, so they just take the path of least resistance, it's not rocket science

>>107880106
Lmao. It’s the super-rich who are the most obsessed and excited about AI because they know it benefits them more than anything else. They get realtime monitoring of every citizen. They get to cut millions of jobs. They get to create kill drones and autonomous police vehicles to crush anyone who challenges their dominance. They get new realtime censorship and information flow control capabilities. They get to own all the computers hardware and rent it back to you on a subscription basis.
You get more expensive water, more expensive electricity, more expensive hardware… oh and funny cat videos. Woohoo!

It's none of your business how I use the things I pay for

>>107878216
I hate AI and the retards defending water use and citing the water cycle as why it's ok to move aquifer water to the sea, but there are legitimate times you would use very pure DI water in a metal loop. For example, charging DI water into the primary coolant loop of a pressurized water reactor. You aren't introducing new materials to be contaminated, and the existing concentration of ions and suspended materials in the loop will lowered a bit.

To be clear all of AI uses about as much water as the city of Denver. Not exactly a crazy amount of usage despite the leftist decel hysterics

>>107875583 (OP)
Where does that water go? They pump it into interstellar orbit or what?

>>107880657
It evaporates and goes mostly into the ocean. And you have to wait for water to rain back, so at every moment there is limited amount of it that you can use per unit of time. Learn more about the water cycle then just learning it exists.

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>>107880691
Isn't it a self fixing problem? AI needs more water, so we need more rain, AI heats environment, more water evaporates for rain, etc?

>>107875583 (OP)
Imagine America losing a war with Russia because their military does not have enough water.

>>107878218
How does rain work?

>>107880732
they didn't exactly make sure to put data centers where there will be actually more rain if the temperature average goes up

>>107875583 (OP)
lmao

>>107880293
salt water fucks your shit up - it corrodes, leaves more scale and generally destroys cooling systems in fairly short order. Its kind of the same reason they need to keep adding new fresh water to cooling systems even when it hasn't evaporated, as the used water gets full of crap and has to be dumped after a few cycles. Only saltwater has added super corrosion powers. You would need to add a desalination plant, which is additional energy usage, which is back where we started. Basically you COULD do all of these things, just companies obviously want the path of least resistance and cost. The biggest single factor, for me, is allowing them to build data centers in the worst fucking places possible. This is just retarded and an additional permanent drain on already scarce resources.

Either way, fuck all AI shills

>>107875583 (OP)
Pales in comparison to what we use for industry. A drop in the bucket.

>>107881164
industry produces stuff, relative to scale of resource input. AI doesn't and arguably won't ever. The problem, the AI Co's sole idea to date has been to keep throwing more resources at the problem, until (hopefully) something appears that justifies this. And given just one Co. - OpenAI - is genuinely planning upon scaling up to using half the current total US electrical output within the next few years, with zero plausible indication that any of this is worthwhile, you either need to legislate them into paying for their own shit - and that is EVERYTHING, environmental costs (cooling water desalination), proper power generation (which is NOT throwing another fuckload of methane turbines at the problem), etc. They either invest in the proper infrastructure THEY NEED for this nonsensical quest or someone steps up here and puts a fork in them. For everyones sake.

>>107875583 (OP)
Why do normalfags hate AI so much?

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>>107882565
I'm not a normalfag and I detest ai, but I subconsciously mistake AI being polite for relationship that I never had with my parents. AI sound more encouraging than my father ever did.

Now, that's why normalcy is better, for once.

>>107881523
>source: my ass

>>107875583 (OP)
Destroying water for the Eh Eyes helps counteract rising sea levels

>>107875583 (OP)
The water usage is a huge meme. US agriculture alone uses like 120 billion gallons per day.
All the current AI data centers in the US combined wouldn't even be able to hit 1/200th of agriculture water usage.

>>107880732
As >>107880796 said, data centres for some reason are not build in cold snowy areas but in deserts, the worst environments to build them.

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>>107882782
Why don't we put them underwater?

>>107875640
What are you talking about? The primary driver of deforestation is land development.
When resource replenishment is outstripped by industrial demand, a resource is non-renewable. The overwhelming majority (~90%) of roundwood lumber in the modern era is harvested from plantations. That could easily rise to 100%, but it would mean the lumber generated from developing woodlands would go to waste.

>>107882782
Moving electricity is harder than moving water, and electricity is most plentiful in the desert.

>>107881038
>You would need to add a desalination plant, which is additional energy usage, which is back where we started.
see: >>107882962
There is a very easily attainable super-surplus of extremely cheap energy in the desert.

>>107875583 (OP)
Why don't they build data centers in the Arctic or Antarctica? Could this be the reason Trump wants Greenland?

>>107875712
>The rural US is covered in tree farms though
yes but those are monocultures (one species of tree) devoid of animal life and vulnerable to disease outbreaks and wildfire

>>107875583 (OP)
i wonder why they don't use cryogenics. probably costs more.

>>107882825
why don't we put you underwater

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>>107883387
why don't we?

>>107877550
>However, the issue is that the water will rain down somewhere else

Literally not an issue. They use water for cooling. Same as nuclear reactors. The water is just as drinkable leaving the plant as it is going in. You're so against AI that you're literally falling for retard-level arguments. If I told you transitioning would help fight AI you've probably take some nail clippers to your cock.

>>107883422
I know right? Strange how we never thought of this before.

>>107882995
via?
>>107883509
>The water is just as drinkable leaving the plant as it is going in.
horseshit, utter.

>>107878791
lmao, that is truly retarded.
I didn't even think reality would be this retarded.
Like, just build a bigger radiator you fucking retards, maybe slap on an extra heat pump.
But the best these companies can come up with it evaporative cooling.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
but also sad.

But really, I though the water usage was some retarded meme, like how milk "consumes" a lot of water because it rains on the grasslands.
I just couldn't conceive of such retardation in engineering.

>>107875583 (OP)
Because ChatGPT isn't an indian.

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>>107877956
Here's a helpful diagram. Precipitation might occur at sea, turning that precious water into salt water.
What do they teach children in Russian schools, how to avoid using condoms?

>>107879191
Being a little too hot is what causes ice ages, you donut.

>>107875623
40% of those posts are a AI bots made to diverge the attention from the Epstein list.
50% are retards who bought into the narrative.
The rest is artfags who can't draw for shit so they're angry at ai """""taking their jobs""""".

>>107883724
What will evaporating salt water do, anon?

>>107877630
>Remove water from a jungle to put it in a desert
>Suddenly the jungle dies

>>107883768
Make the frogs gay

>>107883754
>Epstein list
Irrelevant normgroid narrative. America's being taken over by literal shitskin socialist terrorism but muh epstein...
kys

>>107875623
It's just califags pretending the world revolves around them. Their entire society is propped up by diverting water from the colorado and transporting it hundreds of miles away to a barren desert.

>>107875583 (OP)
sounds extremely low to be quite honest

>New York City consumes approximately
1 billion gallons of water per day (BGD) to serve its roughly 8.3 million residents,

>>107883768
you are removing usable, drinkable water from locations where it is scarce and adding it to unusable salt water. It then redistributes itself, and not equally - areas where it was scarce before will be even more scarce in future. This is a cumulative process. Continually removing a resource from where it is scarce without addressing the basic issue of uneven distribution and hoping this somehow all balances itself out in the end is not good practice. tldr, wasting precious drinkable water, on shit like this when there are SO many other, better options, is fucking retarded.

>>107883600
500 terawatts of solar-powered electrolysis

>>107880110
Did you? Why do you keep repeating this nonsense along with your coworkers?

>>107875623
i hate how climate change bullshit alienated the average retard from caring about the environment.
yes nobody should fucking care about temperatures going by 1 degree (if even) in 100 years BUT everybody should fucking care about kike companies poisoning your food and water supply which will kill your before you can even reach 60 and claim pension

>>107883807
Rusbot dutifully doing damage control for 50 cents an hour.

>>107882596
these people don't understand how the world works. I fucking bring up Alfalfa farms in CA that were draining the entire state of water including others yet somehow its food? You know these people are third worlders. For whatever reason they want to have input on the first world. When there shithole country cant clean there fucking streets.

>>107883807
The fact that America is being taken over by literal shitskin socialist terrorists has a lot to do with the fact that our politicians are blackmailed pedophiles being controlled by Israel's leash but you're not ready for that conversation

>>107875583 (OP)
Cooling

>technophobic luddites don't understand that nature works like in my simcity and civilization games
when Elon creates the first Martian empire three decades from now, you lot will stay on Earth to rot

>>107875583 (OP)
pumping water over the heat exchangers of the AC in the server rooms cools them much faster than just doing it with air.

>>107876074
The word "famous" really means nothing to you, does it? She's the definition of "literally who."

>>107875623
Not enough to go around. Shit takes time to re-enter the system.

>>107883348
Not really. To all of that. You think they have a guy go through a crop of trees and individually roust all the critters from every one, every day, for 10-30 years? And then sell the lumber for like 10 cents a foot?

>>107882565
Probably because it's a literal vampire that syphons off unbelievable resources while providing literally no value to anyone.

>>107886918
ok unc

>stupid niggers actually think that AI datacenters burn municipal drinking water like it's gasoline

>>107887091
your nigger social media influencer is not famous, you testosterone deficient zoomer

>>107875583 (OP)
That water consumption is crazy. My local deepseek box needs at least a whole 1.5L bottle per session. She's such a thirsty girl.

>>107875583 (OP)
Where did this water meme come from? What is it even based on? Water doesn't just go away. This must be a brown/woman thing.

luddites lost

>>107877569
fair but isnt it all being funded by spook bux anyway

>>107887809
it's being funded by your 401k

>>107887831
im not american and i def got no money, but that seems like a yes

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>>107875583 (OP)
Lol not this retarded shit again

>>107887872
>im not american
doesn't matter lol. the world has invested into american equity

>>107875583 (OP)
They should use sperm instead of clean water, right?

>>107887882
kinda but its not like the us econ going down brings down connected econs by equal amounts

>>107887932
How is that relevant? not necessarily true either.

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>>107887879
>posting literal disinfo about water footprint
retard
Pic related. Take a guess as what "green water" means. Hint, it falls from the sky.
Research like this exists so all the media can make claims about how bad milk is and how you are raping the world because you literally killen 300 gallons of water by buying milk at the store, and how we should drink onions milk.

>>107887948
how is it not? your premise was that everyone is going to lose money because theyre interconnected with american monopoly money enterprises.

>>107887975
my premise was that it was not funded by "spook bux" like you claimed

>>107887979
ok nvm you cant even read your own posts

>>107887990
>isnt it all being funded by spook bux anyway
>it's being funded by your 401k
pretty straight forward lil bro

>>107887997
>>107887990

>>107888014
what are you trying to do here. start an argument? save face? idgi
ai is not financed by le spook bux

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>>107875678
Climate change is a hoax. The global temperatures didn't change until the constitution of the ICC.

>>107875583 (OP)
Burden chatgpt, ask some dumb question daily and say thank you

>>107887968
You are 100% delusional if you think milk enjoyers would ever stop drinking milk. I could stop eating meat before I'd stop drinking milk. Conspiracy garbage that's not even close to the realm of possibility. It's more realistic to say aliens are fucking real.

>>107875623
>take water out of the ground
>evaporate it forcibly
>water goes to ocean
>water underground doesn't come back magically in a human lifespan

>springs not pumping water out
>lakes dry up
>rivers dry up
>by the way now you also have sinkholes because the aquifer is empty

>>107877790
>>107878161
>remembering deep sea server experiment

Good

>>107875583 (OP)
>I don't want to see a picture of your as a human
Yet you live in the cardboard house, blasting 10kw AC in the summer because thermal insulation on anything other than hypersonic planes and musk's rockets is somehow an alien technology

>>107875583 (OP)
Humans and food production (especially meat) consumes WAY more water though.

>>107875950
gif of the year

>>107878673
contaminated with what, 1s and 0s? We recover water from poop and pee you know.

>>107890726
>b-but making cat videos doesn't (yet) consume as MUCH water as growing food for the entire Nation!
solid argument anon.

>>107890755
Pretty sure making a beef patty for one person is more resource intensive than using ChatGPT for an equivalent amount of time according to studies and researchers.

>>107890737
with bacteria and, like, stuff..
I'm not arguing the contaminated water from cooling systems, or at least the 20% that hasn't evaporated, could (theoretically) be refiltered and reused. Because, it could. Only, the data center operators don't. Because no-one forces them to, not even that last 20%. It just gets dumped. And thats how little of a fuck these companies ACTUALLY give for scarce local resources.

>>107890789
yeah, every hamburger uses half the US Domestic Electricity Production. Ohno, wait, thats cat videos.

>>107890789
yeah but a beef patty tastes good and is pleasurable while a jeetgpt response is vile and retarded to anyone who isn't a codetranny or indian or a teenage mulattoe trying to cheat on his homework.

The solution is to depopulate india and build the datacenters there

>>107882825
My guess is that putting them there would be the equivalent of using dirty water for cooling. The junk from the water will accumulate as you evaporate it and clog the cooling pipes, reason why they need clean fresh water and can’t use sea water.