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 2686964[Last 50 Posts][1][2][3][Quote] [Voice Chat]>>2688256

this guy is my favorite mullato imo

 2686973[Quote]>>2688427>>2689808

not trying to shill BUT what do other christians genuinely think of guy? hes controversal in the youtube apologetics scene

 2686977[Quote]>>2686979

Isn't he basically the Catholic version of Redeemed Zoomer

 2686979[Quote]>>2686981

>>2686977
holy meds hes not catholic he doesnt even consider them christian

 2686981[Quote]>>2686985>>2689368

>>2686979
Oh, what is he?

 2686984[Quote]>>2686986

i dont like this protestantcuck

 2686985[Quote]>>2686991

>>2686981
from watching his videos hes closest to like a baptist albeit he just calls himself christian and doesnt like to be grouped in with denomations

 2686986[Quote]>>2686990


 2686988[Quote]

Donald mckenzie is my fav mullato

 2686990[Quote]>>2686992

>>2686986
he's pretentious
and if i remember correctly he doesn't like mary maybe that's some other guy

 2686991[Quote]

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>>2686990
He has the same views most protestants have on the Virgin Mary

 2687001[Quote]

Literally who is ts nophomo

 2687005[Quote]

Isn't this the guy Adam Green raped on stage?

 2688256[Quote]

>>2686964 (OP)
protemuttcuck

 2688268[Quote]>>2688280>>2688293>>2689414

Genuine question, from an outside perspective the whole of christianity is very comparable to modern slop fandoms of like tv series and video games, because in a sense they also make their own fanfictions of the bible complete disregard canon, to enjoy it like they want to, etc. why is this?

 2688280[Quote]>>2688301

>>2688268
Rolf you've asked this question before

 2688293[Quote]>>2688305

>>2688268
Personal biases. They focus on the parts of the religion they like and ignore the parts they don't care about

 2688301[Quote]>>2688312>>2688320

>>2688280
I am trapped in an endless cycle, everytime I come close to the truth I start from anew again. This is my personal hell.

 2688305[Quote]>>2688312

>>2688293
Are you christian?

 2688312[Quote]>>2688325>>2688326

>>2688301
Document your thoughts. Even if it is unoriginal, if you keep it somewhere you not have spend time remembering it
>>2688305
No

 2688320[Quote]>>2688329

>>2688301
Start writing your thoughts in a journal

 2688325[Quote]>>2688342>>2688350>>2688433

>>2688312
It is not about spiraling, but more so that whenever I think I undserstand a topic concerning human behavior may it be politics, religion or history, I suddenly discover a new aspect I havent thought about before.

 2688326[Quote]>>2688342

>>2688312
May I ask if you are religious?

 2688329[Quote]

>>2688320
I am doing this for certain things already, like philosophy or literature.

 2688342[Quote]>>2688365

>>2688326
No
>>2688325
Oh. Fair enough

 2688350[Quote]>>2688362

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>>2688325
What did you expect

 2688362[Quote]>>2688366>>2688368

>>2688350
I want to attain true knowledge but it seems that the things I want to attain cannot come from the material plane, so I have to turn inward and start meditating.

 2688365[Quote]>>2688380

>>2688342
So you are an atheist?

 2688366[Quote]>>2688409

>>2688362
What religion do you believe in

 2688368[Quote]>>2688400

>>2688362
You can't attain true knowledge, humans aren't meant to be perfect at anything

 2688380[Quote]>>2688411

>>2688365
Why are you talking to me so personally? Do you recognize my typing style? I have talked to you several times before this

 2688400[Quote]>>2688402

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>>2688368
I think there is away to look beyond this firmament, to open the doors to higher planes of knowledge, I just have to find the right entrance.
>

 2688402[Quote]>>2688415

>>2688400
Well there is a way…

 2688409[Quote]

>>2688366
I dont believe in any religion.

 2688411[Quote]>>2688428

>>2688380
Do you want me to stop talking to you?

 2688415[Quote]>>2688419

>>2688402
Ok I will indulge, what is it?

 2688419[Quote]>>2688432>>2688436>>2688438>>2688440


 2688423[Quote]

Video doesn't really encompasses the entire concept but it's not a bad start

 2688427[Quote]>>2688429

>>2686973
i think apologetic youtubers are cringe. if you want to learn more about your faith, books are a higher quality medium

 2688428[Quote]

>>2688411
No, I was just taken back by you asking what my religion is multiple times

 2688429[Quote]>>2688434

>>2688427
tsmt
Just ask your priest

 2688432[Quote]>>2688437

>>2688419
>Spic subtitles upon playing the video

 2688433[Quote]

>>2688325
thats good development. you are growing

 2688434[Quote]

>>2688429
factbomb

 2688436[Quote]

>>2688419
good vid

 2688437[Quote]

>>2688432
I'll ask the channel owner to add turkaryan subtitles

 2688438[Quote]>>2688441>>2688448>>2688458

>>2688419
This is in no way a help for me.

 2688440[Quote]

>>2688419
But thanks anyway

 2688441[Quote]>>2688461

>>2688438
Sad! Why so?

 2688448[Quote]

>>2688438
and what actually your "way" is?

 2688458[Quote]>>2688471

>>2688438
You are doing that to achieve a goal. Once you do finish it you will stop

 2688461[Quote]>>2688464

>>2688441
I have already seen the video before, I know this youtuber. I believe that there is a being (I am using this in the loosest sense here) which created existence and I even partially believe what he says about humans, but my question are entirely of different nature alltogether.

 2688464[Quote]>>2688500

>>2688461
What are your questions?

 2688471[Quote]>>2688495

>>2688458
In the beginning of my own little experiment I thought there was an endgoal, but it feels like a fractal the closer you zoom in on something the more infinitely complex it gets.

 2688495[Quote]>>2688519

>>2688471
thats just the beauty of life. even if you had 1000 years to life, you still wouldnt know everything

 2688496[Quote]

esl

 2688500[Quote]>>2688503>>2688516>>2688531

>>2688464
How can I build a system of knowledge that is based on absolute truths? Mainly my concern is what would this knwoledge look like what axioms hold, can I infer a different set of axioms etc. Before you say god is the truth or something like that, using god as a fist fact wouldnt help me derive anything useful I need for the thing I want to create.

 2688503[Quote]>>2688515

>>2688500
The sooner you will find out that you cannot run everything off of logic. let alone for the masses. They need a balance.

 2688515[Quote]

>>2688503
This creation would just be for myself, I wouldnt want to share it with everyone, atleast as long as I am alive.

 2688516[Quote]>>2688527

>>2688500
The video does answer that, theosis is the transformation of humans into gods, therefore being able to obtain knowledge of absolute truths.

 2688519[Quote]>>2688554

>>2688495
But I want to know everything

 2688527[Quote]>>2688548

>>2688516
But you cant achieve it here and now, you will not become a god walking among earth.

 2688531[Quote]>>2688549

>>2688500
That's vague. I believe that you want something more precise, but you lack the language to describe it

 2688548[Quote]>>2688568

>>2688527
Well you can't expect it to be easy or cheap
That's the cost of divine knowledge, it comes at a cost
But the process is worth it

 2688549[Quote]>>2688564

>>2688531
I know exactly what I want but you are partially correct, I lack the language to describe it, but I am also intentionally being a bit vague, because I could theoretically describe it more precise.

 2688554[Quote]>>2688560>>2688574

>>2688519
why not know a few things really well and build your life off of those things you know? become a specialist rather than a jack of trades

 2688560[Quote]>>2688614

>>2688554
The idea of being omniscient does seem appealing tbh

 2688564[Quote]>>2688589

>>2688549
Why do you choose to be vague then?

 2688568[Quote]>>2688586

>>2688548
For A to happen you first have to believe in A to be true, then A is the truth. Can you prove with absolute certainty that A was true before it happened?

 2688574[Quote]>>2688601

>>2688554
I do not want to live, what you would call a normal life.

 2688586[Quote]>>2688595

>>2688568
Something can be true without anyone believing in it to be true

 2688589[Quote]>>2688610

>>2688564
Difficult to answer.

 2688595[Quote]>>2688596>>2688632

>>2688586
You have not answered my question, I know that A was true regardless if I believe in it or not, but what makes A true apriori?

 2688596[Quote]

>>2688595
shit no apriori cares about

 2688601[Quote]>>2688607

>>2688574
i think its better to become a top 0.5% in something you love rather than being a top 50% in every single small thing

 2688607[Quote]>>2688612>>2688640

>>2688601
To put it simply I want to know everything about one specific hobby I have, I dont want to know everything in the literal sense, I can live without ever knowing if a historical event happened or not.

 2688610[Quote]>>2688617

>>2688589
I sense fear in you. What are you afraid of?

 2688612[Quote]>>2688633

>>2688607
are you sure it's a hobby if you're this possesive over it?

 2688614[Quote]>>2688637

>>2688560
the extent of our human frame cannot possibly know all that is and all that is to come. we are still finding new historical records from the past and good luck predicting the next 10 years of history. hell, we even lost technologies that previous societies had.
<
im glad we have the internet as a source of knowledge, but even that is limited despite its digital vastness. the idea of omniscience in mortality is absurd

 2688617[Quote]>>2688629

>>2688610
ridicule even on here

 2688629[Quote]>>2688643>>2688648

>>2688617
You shouldn't namefag then. Anonymity is a blessing

 2688632[Quote]>>2688638

>>2688595
For some reason I can answer this but I can't express it
Weird feeling

 2688633[Quote]>>2688642

>>2688612
It is not a normal hobby like I dont know climbing or chess, it is like philosophy and I am possessive over it because I really really enjoy it and could do it for all eternity.

 2688637[Quote]

>>2688614
I know

 2688638[Quote]>>2688657

>>2688632
I know right.

 2688640[Quote]>>2688652

>>2688607
seems like we agree then, despite using different words.
<
as someone who excels in his chosen field, my only advice would be to gain as much experiences as possible. my time reading psychology books helped me find opportunities and made me excel in my welding and architecture classes for example.

 2688642[Quote]>>2688662

>>2688633
it's not a hobby then, let's call it a "interest" or "work"
however you can still call it a hobby if you want

 2688643[Quote]>>2688658

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>>2688629
>being a namefag

 2688648[Quote]>>2688654>>2688688

>>2688629
We have a productive conversation here on pol that is already a blessing.

 2688652[Quote]>>2688703

>>2688640
I have already put much work into it.

 2688654[Quote]

>>2688648
it's like the ones we have over cuckjeet but instead of him it's you and it's not that stressful

 2688657[Quote]>>2688676>>2688680>>2688703

>>2688638
More reason to believe in something (at least similar to) theosis
We can't comprehend the concept of truth with our mortal states

 2688658[Quote]>>2688661>>2688678

>>2688643
Everyone knows that you are Indian because you always namefag. That should prove my point

 2688661[Quote]>>2688688

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>>2688658
that's keyed though

 2688662[Quote]

>>2688642
The post I made about a project of mine gaining momentum was exactly about this interest of mine.

 2688676[Quote]>>2688680

>>2688657
The one thing I know for certain that the path to absolute truth is not an easy one and it requires much sacrafice.

 2688678[Quote]

>>2688658
being inclusive is a virtue

 2688680[Quote]

>>2688657
It's so ESL…
>>2688676
Yep

 2688688[Quote]>>2688711

>>2688661
Well, you get the hate, not me
>>2688648
The desire to solve it is stronger than shame, so just state what you want to get closer to the solution

 2688703[Quote]>>2688718

>>2688652
i say since you are already writing notebooks and engaging with your interest, you are already progressing well. keep on reading and applying your knowledge in real situations.

>>2688657
agreed

 2688711[Quote]>>2688722

>>2688688
Okay I will give you a problem that is tangentially related to mine, how do I prove that anything in the realm of logic exists at all with absolute certainty.

 2688718[Quote]>>2688744

>>2688703
Luckily for me this interest of mine will soon be my job hopefully.

 2688722[Quote]>>2688736

>>2688711
Define "absolute certainty"

 2688736[Quote]>>2688785

>>2688722
So no argument for non-existence can be made.

 2688744[Quote]

>>2688718
good for you

 2688754[Quote]

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Polbros… I- I don't have a favourite wholesome niggerino… Am I not based anymore?

 2688785[Quote]>>2688791>>2688807

>>2688736
I have worried about this too, and it's a bit silly because anyone can make a statement against the existence of something regardless of the amount of evidence proving it. Consensus does not determine what is true, what works is what is true. If it keeps working then we can be certain that it is true. That is the philosophy of science

 2688791[Quote]>>2688819>>2688870

>>2688785
What if you're just hallucinating it?

 2688807[Quote]>>2688870

>>2688785
I am talking about metascience, the logic which lies beyond as the firmament of science, I have already talked about this topic extensively on here.
But you can make cartain infrences that some things exist without a doubt for example like the concept of true or false (in the statement logical sense) and or existence and nonexistence.

 2688819[Quote]>>2688830

>>2688791
What if there was some sort of I dont know genius malignus playing all sorts of tricks in your mind of things that were true and false.

 2688830[Quote]

>>2688819
this geg

 2688851[Quote]>>2688866>>2688888

If that was all I will go to sleep now. Good night!

 2688866[Quote]

>>2688851
good night nigga

 2688870[Quote]>>2688886>>2688975

>>2688791
Hallucinations do not change anything beyond claimed minor changes. Yes there are some things that could have an effect on it, but if there is not enough evidence, then we do not have a reason to believe it
>>2688807
Eh, depends on what you are thinking of. "True" and "false" are general states that applies to many things, therefore differ depending on context. What is true about me could me false about you and true about a lamp because we have different states

 2688886[Quote]>>2688912

>>2688870
Just because you don't have evidence for something doesn't mean it can't be true

 2688888[Quote]

>>2688851
Good night Rolf. Sleep well

 2688912[Quote]>>2688939

>>2688886
Yes, but it also means that it is not true. You could believe in anything because it could exist in another universe or timeline, but it does not apply to anything else other than theory
What can stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

 2688939[Quote]>>2688949

>>2688912
So something needs to be believed to be true?

 2688949[Quote]>>2688952>>2688954


 2688952[Quote]

>>2688949
That contradicts your previous statement

 2688954[Quote]>>2688969


 2688969[Quote]>>2688987

>>2688954
>Yes, but it also means that it is not true

 2688975[Quote]>>2688984>>2689041>>2689061>>2689163

>>2688870
Okay last thing I do before I go to sleep, lets do a little thought experiment, suppose you write down a countable number of existence statments, i.e
1. Trees exist
2. 12 dimensional quantum gravity exists
3. I exist
.
.
.
Now lets observe regardless if the list exists in our thoughts or if the things exist, can make a simple observation, we will do categories things that we can assign to these statements about exist or doesnt exist. We have three values either a A exists, it doesnt exist, or it there is a third state which humans cannot comprehend, but clearly for every statement there are only three choices and one of the has to be true, since I included a third option of things that neither exist or dont exist, therfore I can make a list which contains true statemnts.

 2688984[Quote]

>>2688975
Sorry for ESL

 2688987[Quote]>>2689011

>>2688969
Oh. I meant to put "could not". Sorry

 2689011[Quote]>>2689103

>>2688987
Just because it can't be true doesn't mean that it isn't

 2689041[Quote]

>>2688975
To make it simpler what I basically mean write down:
A exists
B exists
C exists
Now here is the crucial point I dont prove the existence of A, B, C themselves but rather if the statement A exists does exist.
There are clearly three possibilities
(A exists) does exist
(A exists) doesnt exist
(A exists) is in a state which is neither existence or non existence.
Now write down all possible lists with A, B and C. It is very clear that one of them contains the list which puts all statements in the correct category of existence. We dont know which list is the true one, but one of them is, we call that list which we cant specifically identify the true list, and this is what we define as true.

There are no nontrivial arguments against this prove btw.

 2689043[Quote]

But I will really go to sleep now.

 2689061[Quote]>>2689131

>>2688975
It depends on the subject. Yes and no answers are not the only solutions, it is could also be a mix of things that are true and others that are false. You assumed that there is only one unknown answer, but there could also be multiple unknown states influencing the subject.
The fundamental problem is that it is dependent on context, but you are trying to apply it to everything. That is illogical

 2689103[Quote]

>>2689011
>Just because it can't be true doesn't mean that it isn't
Do you mean can be true? We're all typing like ESL users right now…

 2689121[Quote]

My worries about using correct grammar is straining me. I will just focus on getting my point across

 2689131[Quote]>>2689135>>2689160

>>2689061
No to specify:
My third category includes very other mode of existence. Thus everything is included and I am not making statements about context, you think I am talking about specifc things but as I have said I am doing statements about statements.

 2689135[Quote]

>>2689131
*every other mode

 2689141[Quote]

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How would Hitler kill him?

 2689160[Quote]>>2689175

>>2689131
> statements about statements
Like general statements about reality?

 2689163[Quote]>>2689193

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>>2689160
Something like that.

 2689193[Quote]>>2689202>>2689206

>>2689163
Where is this from?
I am doing a logical disjunction between the truths of different lists.

 2689199[Quote]>>2689217

>>2689175
Very few statements apply to everything. It is a futile venture to attempt to find more

 2689202[Quote]

>>2689193
Holy shit, I just had a massive insight I can make this even more rigiorous and can introduce the concept of truth in bigger generality.

 2689206[Quote]>>2689221

>>2689193
It says at the beginning (Wikipedia) but it can no longer be found on the internet. I saved it like 10 years ago but I think it was recorded in 2007.

 2689217[Quote]>>2689230

>>2689199
No? I can literally make an inifinte list of statments that are general, again you are thinking to concrete. I can even show you a semi-rigorous proof:
Trees exist.
The statemnet trees exist does exist.
The statement" the statement trees exist does exist" exists.
The statement The statement" the statement trees exist does exist" exists exists.

I could keep going ad infinitum making ever more general statements.

 2689221[Quote]>>2689236

>>2689206
Did you record it?

 2689230[Quote]>>2689285

>>2689217
I don't get where you're going with this

 2689236[Quote]>>2689244

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>>2689221
No. I saved it because it makes me giggle for reason.

 2689244[Quote]

>>2689236
>for reason
some reason

 2689249[Quote]

Dude is looney, I got 'nished from xis 'cord for not agreeing with predestination. He bases his argumentation that his interpretation of the Bible is correct because he is elect (predestined for salvation) and he knows he is elect because he interprets the Bible correctly.

 2689285[Quote]>>2689305

>>2689230
I know were you are coming from I will try to fill the gap to my argument.
If I say the tree is brown, you would say maybe to you but to a colourblind person it may be gray or something.
But if I say the statement the tree is brown does exist, there are only finitely many choices for you to answer, for example you could say depending on the context the statement the tree exist might exist.
But the crucial step is her now, I can make the statement: Depending on the context the statement the tree exist might exist is a statement that exists.
You would be unable to respond, because you would contradict your previous statement, thus making this statement true.

 2689305[Quote]>>2689333

>>2689285
> I can make the statement: Depending on the context the statement the tree exist might exist is a statement that exists.
>You would be unable to respond, because you would contradict your previous statement, thus making this statement true.
How does that make the statement before it true?

 2689333[Quote]>>2689342>>2689366

>>2689305
My argument is that following statement is now true:
> I can make the statement: Depending on the context the statement the tree exist might exist is a statement that exists.
Because if you said that this statement might only be true in some contexts, would make the above statement still valid, thus making it a valid statement.

 2689342[Quote]>>2689348

>>2689333
Nobody fucking cares nigga kill yourself

 2689348[Quote]

>>2689342
Made me geg

 2689366[Quote]>>2689389

>>2689333
>> I can make the statement: Depending on the context the statement the tree exist might exist is a statement that exists
That is a new statement, not a modification that causes the tree to always exist because the subject is the statement, not the tree

 2689368[Quote]

>>2686981
Xe is nondenominational

 2689389[Quote]>>2689409

>>2689366
I think it does not always imply the tree exists but even so I could modify it to:
Depending on the context the statement the tree might exist is a statement that exists.

 2689409[Quote]>>2689424

>>2689389
So? That only claims the statement exists, not that the tree exists

 2689414[Quote]

>>2688268
Wishful thinking and pride from the individual
Other denominations are basically failing to be Orthodox, making endless argument as to why the church fathers agreed with them particularly, and saying that the Orthodox are not actually Orthodox according to the bible

 2689424[Quote]>>2689426>>2689440

>>2689409
That was my whole point, I said that I am not talking about concrete things like trees, but only things regarding statements of statments.

 2689426[Quote]>>2689440

>>2689424
Because before we can even talk about the thing we have to talk about if we can talk about statements of the thing.

 2689440[Quote]>>2689456

>>2689424
>>2689426
What's the point? We know that those statements exist

 2689456[Quote]>>2689465>>2689478

>>2689440
How do you know that these statements exist? How do you know anything exists?

 2689465[Quote]>>2689520

>>2689456
Again certainty meaning every argument for nonexistence fails.

 2689478[Quote]>>2689488

>>2689456
It's right there

 2689488[Quote]>>2689520

>>2689478
But your eyes might be tricking you.

 2689520[Quote]>>2689546

>>2689465
>>2689488
I already explained this. Anyone can argue against something, but if it keeps working then we can be certain that it is true
"Absolute certainty" can not be possessed by us anyways because we can not know everything. It could be true in different conditions, or we made a mistake in our reasoning, or something else

 2689546[Quote]>>2689561>>2689578

>>2689520
No you cant be certain that these things hold in general just because they worked a finite number of times, you really think like a physicist or engineer.

 2689561[Quote]>>2689578

>>2689546
Physicist not in a derogatory way, I get your reasoning and in a physical/engineering context I would agree that this approximation is good enoguh.

 2689578[Quote]>>2689630

>>2689546
Why?
>>2689561
Are you thinking of metaphysical forces?

 2689630[Quote]>>2689653

>>2689578
1. Because the claim from you is, I observed an object falling to the ground 10000 times (due to gravity etc.), therefore without a doubt in my mind you would say the object always falls to the grund with absolute certainty.

My response would be, can you prove that the object will fall onto earth at 1000000000000 or the 9999999999999999999999999999999 time or at the nth time with absolute certainty?

You couldnt because you can only infringe upon the past instances this happened thus you cant prove it with absolute certainty.
2. I am thinking of how physical laws need to be applied to make them useful, or discover new lwas. But philosophy allows us to look at the absolute validity of the law itself.

 2689653[Quote]>>2689657

>>2689630
We cannot have absolute certainty about anything. It is the paradox of knowledge. Your attempts to gain it are futile

 2689657[Quote]>>2689662

>>2689653
You may think that and I thought so too but there are things which can be proven with absolute certainty.

 2689662[Quote]>>2689690

>>2689657
What examples do you have?

 2689690[Quote]>>2689733

>>2689662
The something that doubts. I will only give a short (probably partially incorrect version), because the actual one takes like 15 pages but it goes like this:
Suppose you cant be certain of anything, there is a chance that anything that you have ever learned. thought experienced was fake and didnt exist. You doubt everything you have ever believed, but now suppose you have disregarded all your beliefs as wrong there remains one thing which is true, the thing that doubts (or the doubting itself whatever linguistic version you prefer).

 2689733[Quote]>>2689745>>2689760

>>2689690
> there remains one thing which is true, the thing that doubts
This assume that those memories where transferred to the same conscience, but that could also be false
This also assumed that this conscience is real, but why should we believe that?

 2689745[Quote]

>>2689733
were transfered*

 2689760[Quote]>>2689775>>2689809

>>2689733
There is nothing that prohibits you for doubting your own continoud existence, Descartes who talked about this even explicitly mentioned it. The self doesnt have to doubt, what is important is that there is something which doubts.

 2689775[Quote]

>>2689760
*from doubting

 2689778[Quote]

biggest heretic that has ever walked this earth AWARD

 2689808[Quote]>>2689818

>>2686973
he spreads false teachings such as annhilationism
he has the audacity to call himself an "Orthodox Christian" but by that he doesn't mean that he's Eastern Orthodox, he has insulted the Orthodox Church many times award

 2689809[Quote]>>2689821

>>2689760
How do you know those doubts are real? Again you could endlessly doubt something if so desired, but humanity uses science in some form or another to determine everything. If you reject that because it cannot be give us absolute certainty, then you cannot prove anything because nothing can give us absolute certainty

 2689818[Quote]>>2689825

>>2689808
Protestants love to call themselves lowercase-o orthodox

 2689821[Quote]>>2689824>>2689857

>>2689809
If you doubt your doubts you are doubting

 2689824[Quote]>>2689865

>>2689821
Or something is doubting for that matter

 2689825[Quote]>>2689957>>2689970

>>2689818
what's up with that?

 2689857[Quote]>>2689884

>>2689821
If it did not exist, it would not be a doubt, which is possible in this theory

 2689865[Quote]>>2689887

>>2689824
That doubting thing might also not exist

 2689884[Quote]

>>2689857
If it did not exist you could doubt its non existence.

 2689887[Quote]>>2689908

>>2689865
>doubting thing might also not exist
Isnt that a doubt my friend?

 2689908[Quote]>>2689919

>>2689887
Maybe it is not. Maybe this is all the imagination of some lion and we don't exist, because anything can happen in theory (which is imaginary)

 2689919[Quote]>>2689943

>>2689908
Well but doubting would still exist in that case.

 2689943[Quote]>>2689974

>>2689919
What if we are a hologram that still exists after every living thing becomes extinct. Doubting would not exist then

 2689957[Quote]

>>2689825
I have no idea, I guess they interpret it as "holding true to the Bible"

 2689970[Quote]

>>2689825
>We wuz the true Church or whatever my pastor told me

 2689974[Quote]>>2689998

>>2689943
The problem is you dont get to imagine made up scenarios (since by assumption of the theory you would have to doubt them), you can only doubt them.

 2689998[Quote]>>2690028>>2690042

>>2689974
>The problem is you dont get to imagine made up scenarios
Huh? I just did that
>>2689974
>you can only doubt them.
I could also not doubt it. It is not necessary for existence

 2690028[Quote]

>>2689998
>Huh? I just did that
This answer would be like if we played chess and you suddenly started playing checkers, I would also tell you that it is not allowed, it would be a different game.

 2690042[Quote]>>2690053

>>2689998
But my thought experiment was literally that you start doubting anything, then say it first hand that you dont want to participate in this thought experiment, but it was literally an assumption.

 2690053[Quote]>>2690069

>>2690042
I did not say that. I claimed that doubting is not necessary for existence. I want to continue this discussion

 2690063[Quote]>>2690078

Though I will admit that you are exhausting my mind, Rolf

 2690069[Quote]

>>2690053
I agree doubting is not necessary for existence, but there is a certain list of priorities on has to establish to prove other things.

 2690078[Quote]>>2690103

>>2690063
I am also tired friend it is 11:30pm in Austria. WOuld it bother you if we were to continue this discussion another time?

 2690083[Quote]

>mystery meat good even tho they don't really look like either parent and this creates distance between the parents and the child and this makes mental illnesses far more common. o algo

 2690103[Quote]>>2690123

>>2690078
Mhm, my issue is that I do not know how we could correlate our schedules in a way that we would meet at a similar time
This would be easy on any mainstream social media, but we are limited to the confines of this imageboard

 2690116[Quote]

Being healthy is the most important thing, so above that I want you to sleep. If you are tired your cognition will be off

 2690123[Quote]>>2690151>>2690159

>>2690103
Sadly true, there are many things in this conversation that still need to be clarified and I am aslo unsatisfied ny how I expressed some things I have said. But this was by far one of the most interesting philosophical discussions I have ever had.

 2690151[Quote]>>2690159>>2690171

>>2690123
Do you want to connect on another platform? That is the most convenient option

 2690159[Quote]>>2690172

>>2690123
>>2690151
two gay guys about to erp on discord

 2690171[Quote]>>2690179

>>2690151
This is an instant ban I think. A few days ago someone was perma banned for posting his discord username on pol.

 2690172[Quote]

>>2690159
Oh Nabbv… you are silly

 2690179[Quote]>>2690187

>>2690171
What about Twitter?

 2690187[Quote]>>2690203

>>2690179
I am not on twitter.
I only have discord and youtube.

 2690203[Quote]>>2690213

>>2690187
Uhhhh, this would not work
Just go to bed and make a thread about this tomorrow. I wake up before you, so I will see it
I will also archive this thread so that we can reference it again

 2690213[Quote]>>2690228

>>2690203
Ok I will do it when I have time.

 2690228[Quote]>>2690239

>>2690213
Okay. Good night Rolf!

 2690239[Quote]

>>2690228
Good night friend!



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