They stopped replying to me as well months ago. And if you haven't noticed, they stopped paying attention to the comment section altogether. You can continue to report this project to Kickstarter by scrolling to the bottom of the campaign page and clicking "report this project."
It won't be too late. The farther they keep pushing back the deadline the time for a refund from the credit card company also extends.
Ian MacColl
Had a feeling the refunds would make them post something, and who'd have thought they did, and it's as low effort as usual, which isn't surprising.
No English translation, isn't difficult to do but the fact you'd rather have backers do it because you're too lazy to do it yourself is just a joke.
The generic "Thank you for your continued support" no there isn't everyone is getting fed up and getting refunds.
We'll consider making more frequent updates. Consider? So that means you won't do it, again no promises made means no promises are broken. Just like during the funding you said you'd "consider" showing up the rulebook, then just ignored all mention of it.
We've made progress, but will offer no images to show you. Rulebook is nearly done, adding more stuff to it, or so they claim. Been over a year since funding ended, why is something as basic as that not finished. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't be bothered to get the rulebook properly translated. The cards still have translation errors on them which they've made no comment on. Speaking of which.
Working on the cards. Still?! You spent last year doing nothing else but redesigning them, a change no one liked, then sitting back and doing nothing for the rest of the year. And now you're redesigning them all yet again.
I wouldn't trust you people to run a bath at this point, let alone a campaign, or a cheesecake business.
Looks like a lot of Japanese people are trying to pull out of the campaign. Understandably so. (Honestly didn't know there was a way to refund a Kickstarter lol)
Will ICREA really just keep doing what they have been doing? Just ignore us and keep giving half-baked apologies? Probably.
I don't believe that the campaign is actually cancelled, ICREA is the only one who can verify as such (like they would).
But, if their core audience is starting to refund, that means there will be less money into the project and the quality will surely deteriorate as a result.
HamsterBomb
You're assuming ICREA ever had the intention of fulfillment in the first place and their cheesecake shop embezzlement was purely a coincidence. They are almost certainly under review of their license by Sega/Atlas right now. If they revoked the license they will have to cancel and refund us all.
00shadow00
ATLUS doesn't care at all. I complained about ICREA in last year's ATLUS questionnaire, but it was obvious that ATLUS did nothing
HamsterBomb
Atlus wouldn't compromise their own investigation by telling the public about it. They certainly care about their brand and reputation.
Reading some Japanese comments, it seems this project is not going to deliver??! How this happen?? Surely SEGA or Atlas won't allow that happen? Right?? 😨
Ian MacColl
Sorry to say but the whole thing's been a scam.
Still no rulebook, playthrough video that didn't show a full game, and it changed language part-way through with no subtitles to confuse everyone, which after all this time makes you question if there was ever a full ruleset.
Next to no updates, and the ones they give it's just, we're currently working hard on this project, thank you for your continued support. Still got nothing to show but be naieve enough to believe we've been making great progress on this, thank you for your continued support. We can't deliver this year because we've been working so hard on it, but again we'll not show it, but we will deliver in 2026, when you ask, we aren't saying, so hopefully near the end of 2026 you'll have forgotten about this and the money you gave us.
All of 2025 they only seemed to work on changing the artwork for the cards, box, and player boards. An entire year and that's all they did, and the new artwork was very minamalist, which would taken even less time to create, and pretty much eveyone agreed the older art was better.
Promised back in summer they'd give an update of the figures. 2 seasons later and that update never came. They have the files so there's zero reason why over a year since the campaign eneded they've still not given a single factory update.
And oh yes, they're currently busy working on setting up a cheescake business (not even joking) wonder where they got the money for that from. Also a bit of a strange jump, boardgames to bakery.
So how can they be working so hard on this project, despite having no work to show for it, while simultaneously setting up a new business venture. Whole things a scam.
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ちなみにこのコメント欄で送った長文のコメントをHamsterBomb様からのアドバイスで直接クリエイターの欄からメッセージで送ってますが、その返信も返ってきておりません。
また、あまりに返事が遅いので2回送ってます。
They stopped replying to me as well months ago. And if you haven't noticed, they stopped paying attention to the comment section altogether. You can continue to report this project to Kickstarter by scrolling to the bottom of the campaign page and clicking "report this project."
7月22日に送られてきたメッセージを最後に、こちらから送ったメッセージは一切返信はありません。7回も送ってます。
https://www.gamespark.jp/article/2026/01/17/161696.html
ついにゲームスパークに記事が載りましたね。コメント欄でもチーズケーキの件について指摘が入っていますが、本当に本プロジェクト関連品の製造の発注を受けた工場は存在するのでしょうかね。
フィギュアの写真を載せるのは早くて4月遅くて6月からだと思います。
その後に返金申立てをしても間に合わないようにするためです。
その時に酷い写真を見てから行動しても遅いということです。
It won't be too late. The farther they keep pushing back the deadline the time for a refund from the credit card company also extends.
Had a feeling the refunds would make them post something, and who'd have thought they did, and it's as low effort as usual, which isn't surprising.
No English translation, isn't difficult to do but the fact you'd rather have backers do it because you're too lazy to do it yourself is just a joke.
The generic "Thank you for your continued support" no there isn't everyone is getting fed up and getting refunds.
We'll consider making more frequent updates. Consider? So that means you won't do it, again no promises made means no promises are broken. Just like during the funding you said you'd "consider" showing up the rulebook, then just ignored all mention of it.
We've made progress, but will offer no images to show you. Rulebook is nearly done, adding more stuff to it, or so they claim. Been over a year since funding ended, why is something as basic as that not finished. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't be bothered to get the rulebook properly translated. The cards still have translation errors on them which they've made no comment on. Speaking of which.
Working on the cards. Still?! You spent last year doing nothing else but redesigning them, a change no one liked, then sitting back and doing nothing for the rest of the year. And now you're redesigning them all yet again.
I wouldn't trust you people to run a bath at this point, let alone a campaign, or a cheesecake business.
人のこと馬鹿にしくさってんのだけはわかった
製造中と言い張ってはいますがアップデートに記載なし・フィギュアや小物類のサンプル画像一切なし・ログイン履歴の月単位での空白と信頼に値するものが一切ありませんね。状況的におそらく製造の発注すらしていないと確信できる要素もありますが、クレジットカード会社や版権元への通報が相当こたえているのでしょうか。仮に製造を開始していたとしてもおそらくサンプル画像の提示ができないほど低品質な出来なのだと推測されます。キックスターターには一度しか通報できない仕様となっていますので、アトラスやセガ、クレジットカード会社への異議申し立ては早めに行ったほうがよさそうです。
アップデートの方でもコメントしましたが、
画像サンプルの掲載もルールブックの掲載もデザインは結局どうなったのかもなしと、、、
妄言もいい加減にしてほしいです、、、
現物を提示しないといつまで経ってもおおかみ少年のままですよ
もう異議申し立てにかかりますね。
せっかくプロジェクト開始日にわくわくしながら遅くまで起きて待機してアーリーバードとれたのに、、、最低な気分です
8月までに届くかどうかですね。届けばキャンセルした人の中には後悔する人も出るかもしれへんね。別に5万程度どうでもいいので無事発送してください
久々にTwitterの公式アカウントが動きましたね。16日までには何かしらの進捗を出しますとのことですが果たして出せるようなものが一つでもあるのでしょうか。現時点での最終ログインが返金成功者の出た頃ですのでおそらく返金処理のために渋々ログインしたものと思われます。キャンセル希望の方は取り急ぎカード会社に連絡を入れたほうがいいかもしれません。
別途個別でもメッセージさせていただきました。
支援した当初の意図と大幅に異なりますので、返金対応いただけないでしょうか。よろしくお願い致します。
もういちいち反応するのも疲れたのでアップデートのメール待ちしてましたが、年末年始にボードゲームを友人としたのをきっかけにこのクラウドファンディングのことを思い出したので少し覗いてみましたが、
キャンセルできた人が出てきたんですね!
嬉しいやら悲しいやら複雑な気持ちです。
その方のツイートを拝見させて頂いたら動き始めて払い戻しまで1年近くかかっているみたいですね、、、
個人的にはデザインが戻ってくれればそれでも良いかなと思っておりましたが、諦めの気持ちが増しつつあります。
アップデートさっさと更新しろや仕事しろ
Looks like a lot of Japanese people are trying to pull out of the campaign. Understandably so. (Honestly didn't know there was a way to refund a Kickstarter lol)
Will ICREA really just keep doing what they have been doing? Just ignore us and keep giving half-baked apologies? Probably.
I don't believe that the campaign is actually cancelled, ICREA is the only one who can verify as such (like they would).
But, if their core audience is starting to refund, that means there will be less money into the project and the quality will surely deteriorate as a result.
You're assuming ICREA ever had the intention of fulfillment in the first place and their cheesecake shop embezzlement was purely a coincidence. They are almost certainly under review of their license by Sega/Atlas right now. If they revoked the license they will have to cancel and refund us all.
ATLUS doesn't care at all. I complained about ICREA in last year's ATLUS questionnaire, but it was obvious that ATLUS did nothing
Atlus wouldn't compromise their own investigation by telling the public about it. They certainly care about their brand and reputation.
キャンセル(異議申し立てからの払い戻し)請求に成功した方が複数出ておられるようなので改めてキャンセル希望の方向けに参考URLを貼っておきます。
他のプロジェクトで異議申し立てした例:
https://gatolynx.tokyo/geek/kickstarter-chageback/
https://soplog.skr.jp/amp/other/kickstarter-cahrgeback-lumonitor/index.html
本プロジェクトの成功例:
https://x.com/dillflast/status/2008878860209987682?s=46&t=INVSmm6IaxPxzVQ7nPv7IA
(気になる方はDMをとのこと)
キャンセルにチャレンジされる方はご参考までにどうぞ。
プロジェクトの進捗いかがですか?
返金ドミノでプロジェクト解散が先ですか?
全くバッカーに返信、進捗報告しないストロングスタイルももう通用しませんね。
別途個別でメッセージさせていただきましたが、現状のアップデートがない状況やクオリティの低下によりとてもではないですが信用出来かねます。
返金対応いただけないでしょうか。
このまま無視するならナカイドや各炎上系インフルエンサーにもタレコミをします。
別途個別でメッセージさせていただきましたが、現状のアップデートがない状況の早急な(一ヶ月以内)対応をお願いします。
改善できないのであれば返金対応いただけないでしょうか。
私の友人全員払い戻しが完了しました
同じタイミングだったので年明けで一気に処理されたみたい
現時点でXにも報告が上がっているので多くの人が払い戻しを申請しているようです
こうなってくると製品のクオリティーは下がるはずですし、計画自体が中止になりそうなのが見えてくる
おお、おめでとうございます。差し支えなければご友人の人数を伺っても大丈夫でしょうか?キャンセルが出たあと上の参加人数が減っていないようなので気になりまして……
ボードゲームソムリエ・ 松永直樹を許すな
Reading some Japanese comments, it seems this project is not going to deliver??! How this happen?? Surely SEGA or Atlas won't allow that happen? Right?? 😨
Sorry to say but the whole thing's been a scam.
Still no rulebook, playthrough video that didn't show a full game, and it changed language part-way through with no subtitles to confuse everyone, which after all this time makes you question if there was ever a full ruleset.
Next to no updates, and the ones they give it's just, we're currently working hard on this project, thank you for your continued support. Still got nothing to show but be naieve enough to believe we've been making great progress on this, thank you for your continued support. We can't deliver this year because we've been working so hard on it, but again we'll not show it, but we will deliver in 2026, when you ask, we aren't saying, so hopefully near the end of 2026 you'll have forgotten about this and the money you gave us.
All of 2025 they only seemed to work on changing the artwork for the cards, box, and player boards. An entire year and that's all they did, and the new artwork was very minamalist, which would taken even less time to create, and pretty much eveyone agreed the older art was better.
Promised back in summer they'd give an update of the figures. 2 seasons later and that update never came. They have the files so there's zero reason why over a year since the campaign eneded they've still not given a single factory update.
And oh yes, they're currently busy working on setting up a cheescake business (not even joking) wonder where they got the money for that from. Also a bit of a strange jump, boardgames to bakery.
So how can they be working so hard on this project, despite having no work to show for it, while simultaneously setting up a new business venture. Whole things a scam.
あけましておめでとうございます、松の内明けにいいニュースです。
本プロジェクトのキャンセル成功者が出たようです。
参考ツイート:
https://x.com/dillflast/status/2008878860209987682?s=46&t=INVSmm6IaxPxzVQ7nPv7IA
やはり数度Kickstarterとやりとりしたあとカード会社に申し立て→キャンセル処理がされないということで何度かKickstarterを急かしてキャンセル完了とのこと。
キャンセル手続きをされている方はご参考ください。
一年間頑張らなかったのに年初めから頑張るわけないやろ…
新年のあいさつもなしかな?
明日から平日の月曜ですが…
本当にこの一年間何してたんだ…?
延期の逃げ一点張りで何も出来てないし、コメント欄無視で本当に何してたんだ…?
これは詐欺…?
どうみても詐欺
むしろ疑問抱くところある?
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