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Mauricio Carranza's avatar

Good points throughout. And, in my opinion, I would consider many nails being hit by the same hammer. We are living in unprecedented times of exaggerated claims, as well as exaggerated emotions with a hyperfixation of POV footage that only depicts ONE side of the story. Laws are laws, and I will not stand here and let the law be abused.

I mentioned this in my own little reflection on OLG, as someone who has traveled the immigration system, it is a system RIPE FOR ABUSE. It's easy to lie, easy to cheat and very easy to extend things for major gain.

Heck, even the citizenship process was simpler than what many people go through to adopt a child that was born in the U.S.

With all of that being said.

One thing that does stand out, but not for lack of information, but rather because it escapes the concept of "objective" is that it seems like one of the goals of the administration is to use a certain level of fear tactics to affect the people who reside in this country illegally. Which is not a tactic that I disagree with 100%. The REAL ISSUE is that when you use certain tactics, you also affect the people who have been going through the already harsh and invasive immigration process (though easy to break) and add even more fear into their hearts.

I have felt a need to carry my naturalization certificate (a rather inconveniently large piece of paper) in my person for the JUST IN CASE moment. A moment that has not yet come to pass.

Will ICE ever come to my door looking for me? No, 0% chance of that happening.

Will ICE ever come to my children's school looking for my children? No, 0% chance of that happening.

Will ICE ever detain me if I am in at the wrong place at the wrong time?... I want to say 0%, but I honestly have the fear in my heart, so I have to say. The odds are not 0%.

So, congrats Trump admin. You did strike fear into the heart of ONE immigrant turned U.S. Citizen.

Your post is informative and it helps me with my own fear, but I cannot look at the situation and say "Yup, thats never gonna happen to me" Because the system by which I came here seems flawed by designed. Flawed enough (in my opinion) to say "Maybe I made a mistake and I am not sure, but now I am looking over my shoulder".

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Sometimes a law is just on its face and unjust in its application. For instance, I have been arrested on a charge of parading without a permit. Now, there is nothing wrong in having an ordinance which requires a permit for a parade. But such an ordinance becomes unjust when it is used to maintain segregation and to deny citizens the First-Amendment privilege of peaceful assembly and protest.

I hope you are able to see the distinction I am trying to point out. In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law, as would the rabid segregationist. That would lead to anarchy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.

Of course, there is nothing new about this kind of civil disobedience. It was evidenced sublimely in the refusal of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego to obey the laws of Nebuchadnezzar, on the ground that a higher moral law was at stake. It was practiced superbly by the early Christians, who were willing to face hungry lions and the excruciating pain of chopping blocks rather than submit to certain unjust laws of the Roman Empire. To a degree, academic freedom is a reality today because Socrates practiced civil disobedience. In our own nation, the Boston Tea Party represented a massive act of civil disobedience.

We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." It was "illegal" to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany. Even so, I am sure that, had I lived in Germany at the time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers. If today I lived in a Communist country where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying that country's antireligious laws.

(Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from a Birmingham Jail")

"Someone who says 'I'm against abortion' but says 'I am in favor of the death penalty' is not really pro-life. Someone who says that 'I'm against abortion, but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States,' I don't know if that's pro-life."

(the current Pope, admittedly speaking off-the-cuff)

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