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>>2156277 (OP)
Please reply to this post with your choice.

1) Skill loss prog. At the end of every prog day, everyone will lose 1-2 skills on their bar for the remainder of the prog.

2) 1 Profession prog everyone must play a single profession, no repeat elites, only 2 max of any secondary. Depending what we pick, I may add more rules.

3) Write in


Typical prog rules apply:
- No using the bank
- No rune trader, all runes/insignias must be obtained during prog by prog members
- No PvE only skills
- Nightfall and EotN skills banned, encouraged to use only skills available in factions (proph skills technically allowed)

Start day is looking to be 2 weekends from now, sometime later this week I will check and see what times people are available.

>>2156281
not big on either idea desu
I would enjoy just doing new bars every session. if you think people will try to rules lawyer their way out of meaningful changes, require 4/8 different skills vs last session, 5/8, 6/8, whatever
or the only use what you can soc thing

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gwen gang

>>2156312
I thought about including that as an option but worried telling people "find a new bar" will become stale after like 3 weeks which is why I prefer smaller incremental changes, trying a single skill out rather than having to swap entire builds every session.

I'm saving the SOC idea for a different prog. Feel like that'll be more interesting for NF or Proph. Faction progs are normally pretty short and there's limited amount of off-roading you can do for skills.

>>2156324
I was the SOC idea guy. The issue I saw with it was how kaineng has just afflicted, jade brotherhood, and am fah. And the two gangs don't have shared professions so each profession really gets two sets of skills. And there's a lot of shared skills in mobs there. I'd have to look into NF's skill layout to see how that goes

>>2156363
my problem with factions SOC is it's very linear for the first like 50% of the campaign. With NF and proph there's a lot of areas you will never enter and some thoughtful boss placement which makes off roading a bit more fun. With factions you can come across most of the bosses by just playing the story. There's also the afflicted issue of every afflicted enemy having the same elites. You also get locked out of some bosses if you choose kurz/luxon and it's annoying to unlock the other area.

Which is why I'm pushing the skill loss prog for factions, its short enough that I'm interested to see how it plays out in a prog that will likely only last about 8~ sessions. As opposed to something like NF or Proph which can potentially go 10-12+ sessions. But if people wanna do something different I'm open to ideas.

wish i didnt give away all my stuff when i quit. i mean i did recover my account to find a bunch of ectos and minis on it, so sucked in to whoever hacked it. but i wish i could see my original characters weapons and inventories

>>2156378
I lost almost all my stuff, but the hacker didn't think to take the prenerf dye remover I had from NF release. Sold that baby for a lot of ecto when I came back.

>>2156324
but if you lose skills for the rest of the campaign, either it's random and you can /roll something essential or unique in function and get fucked, or you choose the skills you lose and can basically keep playing the same build with minimal modification for ages
if you had to swap like 6/8 skills each week you'll never be barred from the base building block skills and can revise an old build in a few weeks, but you'd have to scrounge something novel together each time
you could do it as gradual fadeout so people don't just alternate each week (6/8 skills not on last week's bar, 4/8 differ vs 2 weeks ago, 2/8 vs 3 weeks ago)

>tfw so poor can only get runes for 1 character's set of heroes at a time
>have to find which character's heroes the runes are on and salvage them to move to another character to do anything serious

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>>2156277 (OP)
Post moar stranger names

>>2156392
skip the insignias other than blessed for the ST, and the BiPs, and just use major vigs. Cheap out on the weapons too and only use the seitung crafter other than the +60 hp staff for the ST. Shouldn't be too bad with nickgift money after a while

So Rit doesn't really do anything except summon dudes and hold ashes, huh...
Why did I make one of these ten years ago? I wouldn't have made it if I knew it was like this...

>>2156400
well I'll see what I even have after I actually go through my characters, it's a mess right now because I'd transfer runes from some heroes but not others so they're kinda scattered from the last thing I did probably a year or so ago, I have to find where I put everything first, but I'm probably not gonna rune out every character's hero's gear even if i was cheaping out.
for the most part I did use Major vigors, I have a few things like I have at least 1 set of Shaman's (which was bought ages ago before they skyrocketed in price)
What I'm doing is kinda ghetto but it does work... as long as I don't go years and forget where the fuck things are and focus on one character at a time, but yeah, I can get away with probably blessed or survivor runes (which would be preferrential? blessed is vulnerable to enchantment shattering)

>>2156405
It's like the GW1 equivalent of engineer (more TF2 Engineer than GW2 Engineer)
you build turrets and dispensors

>>2156405
you can do channeling casting

>>2156406
Blessed is really just for the ST, or for any elementalist or dervish if you're running some. Tormentors for necros with a bloodstained if they MM. Survivor or radiant works for most of the others. also minor vig is fine for a lot of them if majors are too pricey.
I'd recommend looking through all your characters heroes and just taking note of what's where. I found some decent items i had squirreled away a decade ago.

>>2156405
Spirit Strength open up another build set.

>>2156405
They can be secondary minion master that could do stuff like using Weapons of Three Forges and Spawning Power.

>>2156407
>>2156410
>>2156415
Thanks all. I do see some regular-ass lighting attacks in the wiki, so I'll just pick one sturdy low cost spirit and one useful low cost Was to lug around for the pretty significant bonus effects on some of these skills

>>2156405
thats right. heterosexuals are playing ele.

>>2156413
yeah that's what I'm doing and really I wasn't needing to I just wanted to change out some of my merc heroes but realized hey if I have anything on those heroes on any characters I'd lose it so I'd better just check and see what is sitting rotting on characters
because of what I was doing with runes I also only had 1 set of weapons for heroes too, that I moved around. kind of annoying but I just used staffs just to make it easier on myself moving them around.
But I have like, 200k.
That's it.
maybe 30 ectos.
I'm poor.

>>2156426
Well there are other builds but I find SoS turrets to be a pretty easy and effective build to use in a lot of content especially if you're having to babysit heroes

>>2156426
precast Destructive was glaive and you can do 2 instantly. also Destruction bombs with rupture soul.

>>2156438
DWG in DoA was pretty fun

>>2156431
hey 200k is 200k. should be able to get all the attribute runes and major vigs you need with half of that.

>>2156382
huh redpill me on dye remover

>>2156315
Gwen was my first gf

>>2156448
before nightfall, we used to have dye remover that set the armor piece back to the default color, so like green for mesmer, purple for elementalist, and all that. nightfall changed the system to have grey dye, and all new gear crafted came starting grey. dye remover was replaced by grey dye in the merchants. if you had any dye remover in your inventory, it bugged out (maybe not for all but idk man) and it SAID grey dye, but it was a red dye, but not the red in red dye. Stayed bugged that way for the entire time, but it can't be replicated, so the limited nature of it means it goes for like 70a right now.

>>2156445
I have like, 10 PVE characters, so even going cheap would break the bank to actually try kitting out all characters hero's.

>>2156457
i vaguely remember dye remover mixes making neon colors, not sure if it can still be replicated after the update

>>2156458
oh yeah for doing literally every character its a ton. I have 3 with full runes+insignias+weapons, sup vigs, and 2 with the same but only major vigs. I just don't actually play characters enough to warrant more at this point, even though i have the money

>>2156462
yeah so I might think about.. which characters will ever bother doing things hard mode. Cause anything NM, I don't need runes.

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in pre searing should i go ranger/warrior for frenzy and heal signet or ranger/ele for fire storm

>>2156464
I think the only actual big breakpoint with runes is getting spawning power to 12 for soul twisting to have 3 rituals, which only matters if you're also running a 9 of some other attribute on the ST.

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>Update - February 19, 2026
>In this update, we're focusing on Smiting Prayers to enable a damage-dealing playstyle for Monks in PvE. Divine Favor will also be improved to be competitive with other support profession options
>Divine Favor: Now reduces the cost of all enchantments by 4% for each rank. Also reduces recharge time of all signets by 3% for each rank
>Scribe's Insight: Energy gain increased to 4. Now increases cast speed of all signets by 5...50%
>Smiting Prayers
>Balthazar's Aura: reduced recharge to 20 seconds
>Bane Signet: increased damage by 50%, reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Banish: increased base damage by 50%
>Castigation Signet: increased damage by 50%, reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Defender's Zeal: now additionally deals a small amount of holy damage when its effect triggers
>Holy Strike: increased conditional damage by 50%
>Holy Wrath: can now self-target
>Kirin's Wrath: this skill has been reworked into an attunement for Monks that enables offensive caster options. Enchantment spell. 15 energy, 1s cast time, 30s recharge. For 35...60 seconds, you gain 5...40% of the base energy cost of any spell you cast that targets an enemy
>Ray of Judgment: reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Signet of Judgment: increased damage by 50%, reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Signet of Mystic Wrath: reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Signet of Rage: increased condition damage by 50%, reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Smite: reduced recharge to 6 seconds
>Spear of Light: reduced recharge to 8 seconds
>Stonesoul Strike: this skill has been reworked. Now simply deals holy damage to target and adjacent foes with no conditional effect.
>Symbol of Wrath: reduced recharge to 12 seconds
>Word of Censure: No longer has conditional increased recharge time. Base recharge increased to 15 seconds. Now inflicts dazed when hitting targets below 50% health.
>Zealot's Fire: now also inflicts burning when the effect triggers. Reduced duration to 20 seconds. Reduced recharge to 12 seconds.

>>2156501
Bro, wake up, you can't keep doing this to yourself.

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>>2156501
Oh boy, I sure love seeing Life Sheath being forced on all monks now. Would this at least make Shield of Deflection usable now?

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>104 minutes of flavour remaining

>>2156281
All Ranger prog, but no one can use a bow after Shing Jea. And no dagger spam.

>>2156501
>making the Afflicted stronger
Togo would just evaporate

>>2156541
You only say that because you haven't seen the upcoming rit rework

>>2156471
would herald's insignia work alright for BIP healers, I had those on for some reason, cause of the protective was kaolai jar I think
or do heroes drop the jar too often for it to be reliable?
Tormentor's seems.. kinda like a bad idea if you encounter smiting monks or dervishes.

just traded 87 ecto for 290 picks, how'd I do traderbros

>>2156551
smite monks are pretty rare, as are aura of holy might dervs iirc

>>2156569
>aura of holy might dervs
The Pious Renewal ones? I thought those were common, oh well.

>>2156574
Sorry, meant heart of holy flame. It's really just that, reap impurities, and banishing strike. Actually reap impurities is a lot more common than I thought but it's still limited to pretty specific mobs in specific zones, mostly human mobs in NF. But i've never really had issues with smite monks, at least when running mesmers too, since they shut them down pretty fast.

>>2156565
24e per 80 lockpicks is pretty good for current prices. 80 lockpicks per 100k gold is a pretty standard exchange. and current ecto to gold is like 27 at the absolute lowest, but more likely 30. You got a good deal with those, effectively 20% off.

>>2156580
Heart of Holy Flame is obviously amazing vs undead but also great on anything /D since it changes your attacks to holy for 30 seconds no matter if you have any mysticism or not.
Run cathedral of flames with it on A or W and you'll be splurging all over fat yellow numbers.

>>2156612
Oh for sure. I'm saying its rare for enemies to have that skill, since we're talking about the tormentor's insignias and the holy damage increase. It's mostly on stuff like symbol of wrath, ray of judgement that tick a bunch, or judges insight and heart of holy flame that make the physical mobs do holy that really threaten necros with that insignia. Most other holy things that will hit them are a single packet. On a player HoHF is based for undead mobs.

>>2156621
Yeah, holy damage from mobs is pretty rare.

>>2156569
I'm also just looking for a cheaper option than tormenter's for necro heroes, because they'd be carrying the jar a lot I thought that'd be viable anyway.

>>2156632
Yeah i mean the heralds probably sort of okay as a very budget option. Only issue is they're gonna drop the PwKs when there's aoe pressure, and that's also the time time you're gonna want that extra armor. Not huge if you're gearing on a budget, just something to think about doing the more difficult stuff.

First character, which profession will I pick?

>>2156637
well the other budget option is I have a shitload of survivor runes, I was thinking about using those for budget mesmers cause ain't no way I'm gearing 4 mesmers with full prodigy.

>>2156656
the archetype you like

>>2156657
or would the fact that the BIP is sacrificing health constantly make survivor's kind of pointless, what about undertaker's?

>>2156281
>>At the end of every prog day, everyone will lose 1-2 skills on their bar for the remainder of the prog.
>play assassin
>week 1: lose jagged strike
>week 2: lose death blossom
>week 3: stop showing up
>>2) 1 Profession prog everyone must play a single profession
>it's ritualist
i'd rather play with no armor or reduced armor or somethin

>>2156665
undertakers is what I used when i was on a budget, since it was more of a help when he was getting focused. I tend to optimize for the worst case scenarios more than best case

>got tooth out
>falling asleep trying to grind Farmer Hamnet
>its prime grinding time because theres nothing else to do
why does god give his hardest battles to his worst soldiers?

>>2156501
Stop giving me hope please

my bow ranger hits like a noodle...

>>2156814
Don't worry, all bow rangers hit like doodles.

>>2156815
Feelsbadman
Is my only option being an aldi assassin with ToA ?

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>>2156816
Be a chad and thump bunnies.

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I kneel...
Now we only need r12 champ...

>>2156819
>make ranger
>play warrior

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>>2156849
It's the OG D&D ranger

>>2156814
post build

>>2156852
barrage and whatever it all hits for 15

>>2156855
sounds like you're the problem

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Seriously... what the hell is wrong with you people...

>>2156855
splinter weapon?

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Aight THIS is based...

>>2156865
chuckle worthy

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>hunt for skills for my heroes
>realize their ones are so much cooler in compassion
also isn't the up time on that is 100% or am i getting something wrong?
how is that not mad OP?

>>2156816
>>2156849
Eh?
https://guildwars.magical.ch/OgETcZ7MZapAs4rY1QVcsmmk2A

>>2156915
It lasts for 74 seconds, ends and then is disabled for 45s.

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the posting speed increases by like 10 fold when a new thread is made so we should do this more often
also im suddenly very invested in vabbian politics

>>2156281
the first idea has people using 2 shit skills on their build and swapping those out for 2 new shit skills over and over

>>2156915
avatars are strong yeah

>>2156915
they compete with vos (both kind) and pious renewal so into the trash they go

>>2156963
is pious renewal really better?
they seem to be doing the same thing but the avatar sounds stronger on top of being cooler.
also isn't being earth makes vow of strength kind of shitty?

>>2156970
Avatars have downtimes, Pious Renewal has no downtime even when Diversion'd

>>2156970
pious renewal is one of the most overpowered skills in the entire game

>>2156975
>For 8 seconds, nothing happens.
But nothing EVER happens...

>>2156995
That's why it's the strongest.
Nothing happens for 8 seconds (+20%) and then?
Again nothing. Ad infinitum.

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https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Build:A/Rt_Shadow_Theft_Healer

>>2156919
no it doesn't
avatars are disabled starting from when you finish casting them, meaning they're permanently maintainable as long as the duration exceeds 45s

how are people writing longer messages in kamadan trade chat?

>>2156281
My preference between the first two would be single profession run (Assassin preferably). I do great that being forced into a prof might scare people off though. The first option sucks Kournan balls. "Here's some skills now you can't use them" or "I'm buying these two skills so I can trash them next week".

You should open a poll about it (single prof vs mono prof) and dig up the scheduling website from last progs that has time zone functionality too

>>2157042
>I do great that being forced into a prof might scare people off though.
Yeah I wanted to join for my first prog with you guys but I'm not doing a single class, I have a prof I want to roll.

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>>2157023
boring asss shit, check this build I made for true ass heals
OwNj0se44SmZ+O7IQgRgLQgeoRA

I have been playing pre-searing for the past week and enjoying it. Last night I dropped a charr salvage kit and then another in the following run, as well as a char bag.

If you use /bonus you did not beat the game.

>>2157136
all my heros are on /bonus staffs

>>2157158
They didn't beat the game

>>2157136
all my pre searings are on /bonus

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>>2157163

I'm going to just redeem the /bonus real quick here...

If you ever used cons or pcons you didn't beated the game.

this is how bonuspilled i am in pre searing:
spiritbinder with a +1 attribute mod
soulbreaker scythe for the +20% longer enchants
sunspear+serrated shield for extra armor and health in an emergency
darksteel longbow for pulling

>>2157179
>soulbreaker scythe for the +20% longer enchants
>yooo, this aura of resto be fyre :skull:

So I just beat nightfall, how do I start getting into farming and end game stuff? All the guides or "starter farms" i see require me to remake my armor/biils with runes that cost alot of platinum.

Are there any true farms i can do where I dont have to redo everything?

Also do my heroes really take away drops from me? That seems kinda lame.

>>2157182
nah let bro get he game on fr fr

>>2156281
I want to join prog with you guys but I dont wanq do mono prof.

I wanted to play monk as ive never played it before, so my vote is for skill loss prog.

>>2156281
>>2157192
Or as an alternative, have everyone be forced every new prog session to use the build wiki select their profession and be forced to use a random build replacing any pve skills or nightfall eotn skills in the build

>>2157184
Work on getting all the campaigns+eotn done. It'll open up your ability to get weekly gifts of the traveler which you can sell for money. Either buy the weekly turn in materials (a nickset) or farm them yourself. Only thing really is to walk to wherever the location is each week once you have the nickset. And anyone can farm nicksets with spirit spammer builds with kind of whatever gear, but skills might be tough to get early I guess. Could do feather farms in jaya bluffs as well. Dervish is best for it but every profession has a build for it. If you were playing dervish, getting the suite of skills used for Vow of Strength builds. It's a core farming build for a lot of areas. What's your profession, current skill build weapon, and current insignia+rune setup right now?

Yes heroes and henchmen reduce your drops. They get their share of the loot. It's the same as if you partied with 7 other humans.

am i setting myself for disappointment if i set myself to the expectation of them reviving the game with new dlc's, content, rebalancing and generally making the game actively developed on.

Warrior, and I am running soldiers stance sword shield build spamming sun and moon and whirlwind attack.

I was looking at getting into seven weapon stance scythe but I need to beat factions I think to get to the boss with that elite.

>>2157239
Was for
>>2157223
Posting from phone because I dont want my boss finding out my embarrassing secret that I frequently visit a Mongolian basket weaving image board

>>2157227
Absolutely yes, given what we've seen. Piken square already existed and was just pushing it into pre. At most, we could get more armor reskins like eotn did for the non-norn sets. Maybe some quests or something but I really REALLY doubt it right now. Could change but I'm not holding my breath

>>2157239
>>2157242
I also phonepost at work lmao. Yeah I'd recommend just pushing through the other campaigns. If you liked warrior, play that so you can get the skills from those campaigns. And if not, just start a different character. In general getting access to the other regions for weekly nick gifts is money, and then there's the skills for either yourself or your heroes.

Farming wise on warrior, I think the main thing is hundred blades+whirlwind attack? The issue is then just surviving until you get the spike off. I know raptors is one of the main farms warrior is used, but that can be kinda tricky to learn from what I've heard.

>>2157227
No dude, utopia expansion is finally coming! Im going to be a chronomancer!

when farming for greens, is it worth going HM? because flagging my heroes away at the right time is a pain in the ass.

>>2157289
idk did you try google yet

>>2157289
No

https://youtu.be/yZUfKSEVi_M [Embed]
babe wake up new peter kadar

>>2157314
wtf my secret is out

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>log in
>first post i see in chat

>>2157182
also benefits healing breeze :^)

Thinking of remaking my ele that's just gotten to gate of kryta. It's only level 14 and the elite i spent a ele tome on feels kinda underwhelming, plus I could maybe go for pre-searing stuff with the new reforged mode

>>2157169
>not willingly death leveling
>using /bonus
>playing above 1024x768 and manually fixing the game at 12FPS
>not using dial-up internet
You didnt beat the game.

>>2157357
Finish gate of kryta and then remake them in factions. Make a different pre-searing character later when reforged mode is something beyond just piken square.

>>2157360
I didn't best this game? Wow, I have so much more content to do!

>>2156862
My knees are bending on their own.

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i hate using black dyes in pre searing but i need the drip

>left pre-searing
You didn't beat the game.

>>2157373
You factually didn't beat the game by staying

My goal is gwamm. BUT i'm an alt-holic.
I'm thinking about building a ranger, and only staying on him till i atleast max reps/vanquish everything.

Is it worth to go for LdoA ? I got my last one in about 8 hours, thanks to the new reforged patch.

>>2157377
The issue with ldoa is just shaving ONE title off doesn't get you much. You still can't skip any carto or skill cap region, since that's be two (the region itself plus having all three). You could skip master of the north I guess but you're likely going to do all of that for the rep titles too. I guess it lets you not do all the dungeons or carto there, but you're then trading that for needing to do pre-searing to 20. I personally don't care for spamming that one quest for hours. If you have an account wide title, it would be worth considering, since shit like NF carto is a pain sometimes

>>2157389
I tried carto back in 2021, then my pc exploded. I hated grinding edges of the map more than the mind shattering grinding and enacting total bandit death.

>>2157391
The map texture mod helps a lot. Also learning that it's not position based but camera based, and you sometimes need to look around in weird ways to get it. There's a few glitches or tricks to get bonus % that also help not needing to scrape. NF is the worst about scraping imo.

what are the lewdest female armors?

>>2157398
find God

>>2157400
he won't help you now

>>2157403
he's helped me plenty praise Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him)

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>>2157398
heres one

>>2157398
Probably the ones that are literal tattoos and nothing else.

>>2157398
Elite Druid maybe

>>2156915
Vow of Silence lets you permanently opt out of a whole game mechanic.
Vow of Strength lets you delete a whole encounter if they oblige you and stand within adjacent range of each other.
Penis Renewal is tedious and boring compared to vos but it lets you have a skillbar full of situational attacks for every occasion and strong sustain and energy management.

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anyone that leaves pre searing is a traitor to ascalon

>>2157424
And ?

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>>2157427
>traitor detected

>>2157428
AND ?

>>2157430
stop putting space inbetween the question mark what are you french you retard damn

>>2157424
So, Canthans and Elonians?

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>>2157430
theres no and

>>2157424
>>2157434
Can't leave pre-searing if you were never there

Why didn't the Sunspears come and help Ascalon fight against the servants of Abaddon?

>>2157439
The searing is in 1070 AE. Abaddon wasn't really understood to actually exist until the events of Nightfall five years later in 1075 AE starting with the apocrypha.

Have they announced what they plan to do with refrogged characters ?
There's rumors they will simply be deleted.

>>2157456
based if true

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>>2157456
>refrogged

>>2157456
>*ribbit*
HELP NO
>*ribbit ribbit*
I AM BEING DELETED

>>2157462
I'm sure this sounded funny in your head

>>2157463
I thought it was kinda funny

>>2157463
????

>>2157414
>pressing extra buttons is more boring than pressing deaths charge into attack with vos on

>>2157464
no

Canonically which class gives the best foot jobs?

>>2157468
Yes, because VoS has a well-defined hedonic cycle, you see the opportunity, you press all the buttons, line up the spike and boom, big ball of yellow.
With PR you need to keep pressing the buttons at all times and are constantly experiencing FOMO that you're not pressing the buttons enough.

after 4000 hours I came to a conclusion that this game blows

If you had to make only one general PvE build per profession, which build would you go for each? What I got so far:
Ele
>Invoke lightning
Mesmer
>Psychic instability+wastrels
Necromancer
>Minion master
Assassin
>WotA daggerspam
Ritualist
>SoS
Dervish
>Pious renewal
Paragon
>Soldiers fury imbagon (fuck human resources)
I need ideas for warrior, ranger, and monk.

>>2157530
Blows like a male Paragon on his knees

>>2157533
one good build or one fun build

>>2157533
Auspicious Parry
Touch Ranger
Guy that throws rocks very hard and very fast
That one Mesmer touch skill that makes you shut the fuck up
Bunch of marks
123
Exploding towers
Shouty hero RTS guy that makes your heroes unbreakable
That one blender setup with sand

>>2157559
Ideally a strong build that's emblematic of the professions core mechanical identity, fun if possible. Like E/Mo is strong but it's not really "elementalist" and while esurge for mesmer is good, I think it's not enough interrupt and punishment as PI+wastrels.

>>2157533
Ranger is Barrage + Pet obviously
Warrior 100b or Warrior's Endurance with your weapon of choice probably. Earth Shaker if hammer. Seven Weapon Stance if you like exotic armaments.
Monk Divine Boon + Boon Signet healing protter is very versatile and fun.

okay how do you meet people to play with in this game

>>2157495
Mesmer

>>2157533
I'm not sure I'd class Minion Master as general PvE.

>>2157596
What would you suggest for a general PvE necro build instead

Kamadan is fucking dying

>logon
>nothings different
>log off
wow

Do the +damage% modifiers on weapons only affect auto attacks or all damage?

>>2157647
idk did you check the wiki first

>>2157649
Yes.

>>2157653
damn

>>2157611
icy veins
putrid bile
corpse explosion

and then dip into curses for weakness and cracked armor

>>2157611
I'd say only discord spam works as a general build for Necro but it isn't very fun.

I can't remember, does hard mode affect drop rates of green weapons?

figured a few 20/20 green weapons look slightly less generic and won't cost me anything if I can get some to drop. got the 2 dom canes and even got the illusion cane from sorrow's furnace to drop on my first run in (the inspiration for it cause I think the hypnotic wand looks ugly)

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stonks

>>2158023
how much are they worth these days?

>>2158039
20e abouts for the wand wrapping

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It's happening

why is kamadan getting ddos'd

Are spell casters like, weak? I'm 18 on my Rt, and my 15 skill channeling abilities are only doing like 20 to the enemies on the main land. I feel like if I was a level 18 melee, I certainly would be doing more. Is it Rt? Is it casting? Did I fuck something up?

>>2158095
Its Ritualist. GW is a caster game

>>2158096
Huh, fair enough. Why would something like Ele do more damage? I know air magic has armor piercing and mesmer does.... not care about armor at all? Would a fire ele be doing similar damage?

>>2158095
Enemies have different armor values against different damage types. A ranger, for example, will tank whatever lightning you shoot at them.

>>2158095
Rit lightning skills often don't have armor penetration.
If you want to remedy that you'll need the elite skill "Destructive was Glaive" which gives armor pen while you're holding the jar and you can also drop the jar and do PBAOE.
But that's kind of a niche with Rits, Rits perform better summoning spirits and healing.

>>2158095
Channeling can be good damage if you use signet of spirits + bloodsong + vampirism then that spell that makes your spirits hit the enemy for more damage. You get like 5 spirits hitting for 20+20 each. Pretty sure spirit damage ignores armor too.

I've been wanting to try a non-SoS build though
What skills are you using?

>>2158123
he didn't want to use spirits, and wants to play Rit as a direct damage dealer, tried to tell him last night that that's not really what the class works best as but..

>>2158105
That's interesting. I know that player R armor has a flat + armor to elemental, so I was guessing that ranger enemies just had that. Didn't know it element specific.
>>2158117
Hmm, I see. I did play around with Daoshun, but I chose to forgo that since I wouldn't get my weapon benefits. I bought a necro staff wrapping to help with energy, but that may have been a bit of a waste (on Rt).
>>2158123
I've been running Pain + Blood Song + Spirit Siphon + Draw for energy management and 4 attack spells. Nothing crazy. The elite spells that restore their energy back and do damage look interesting.
>>2158129
I'm actually not that anon. I do like spirits, but I don't have Signet and Summon Spirits yet. Doing more than 2 has been a pain with just draw.

>>2158133
Most human enemies have similar armor resistances. Rangers have higher armor against all elements equally.
Monsters usually are not so in Prophecies, though they dumbed it down considerably for Factions and Nightfall.

>>2158133
Weapons in general do less for Rits than other classes because of the jar spells, and well, rituals aren't spells, so they don't get the HSR/HCT benefits.

>>2157435
AND THEEEEEEN?

>>2156682
There are other dagger skills than the dagger trio, you don't need to play dagger spammer

If we ended up doing ritualist, it would be in HM. No armor/reduced armor sounds like torture to whoever is playing monk that prog lol (counter point, a no armor only monk run would be hilarious).

>>2156938
>>2157042
We'd be pinging bars at end of every session so everyone could suffer together in knowing what was lost. I guess you could still swap stuff and I can't stop you, but that would be rather homosexual of you to do.

I'm not sure why so many people think there is only 1 or 2 valid builds in this game per profession (unless you're an assassin player, I understand your struggle in that case). The goal of the prog is to re experience campaigns with players but add an extra twist on to keep things new and exciting, designing builds and theorycrafting is one of the strongest aspects of this game. I do think people just need a bit of a push to look beyond their immediate dagger spammer, esurge meta to admire lesser used skills that can be situationally, quite good. We beat NF with a paragon only party after all. You can go far outside meta viable to get through these things.


Right now the votes are as follow:

Single Profession: 2
>>2156533
1 For Ranger Only
>>2157042
1 For Assassin Only

My preference toward professions for a 1 profession faction run are Ranger, Assassin, or Ritualist since I think they would be funniest. But am open to others.

>>2156312
Skill Swap Prog: 1(+1) (Every session change your bar up to run a different build)

Skill Loss Prog (+1)

>>2157195
Counting your votes as (+1) since you are fine with either option.

>>2157046
1 Normal Prog, or something less silly


Related note: Does anyone know any good scheduling sites with time zone functionality? If not I'll just use same site I used last time.

If we get a majority of new players for Factions (I doubt it but hey), we should play a normal progression run. Or something closer to normal/ironman.

>>2158154
There were two for "not single prof prog".
I think with the new players, it's best to just run a normal prog >>2158156 with maybe something small to play around.
I think the site I found last time was lettucemeet which displays in local time zone. Everyone just has to make sure they're plugging in with the approrpaite timezone.

>>2158150
It's STONER BASHING TIME!

>>2158146
Oh I didn't even notice that rituals aren't spells. I guess that makes sense since they get expertise benefits. Could have saved that 45 plat for something else. Alas. Do necros have any way for good direct damage, or is it just like, overwhelming amounts of death nova procs from a lot of little guys?

>>2158193
Necromancers have Necrosis, AKA, spamming 90 armor-ignoring damage every 2 seconds.

>>2158198
Necrosis ignores armor?? I see that on the wiki, but wow. Actually, looking at the armor ignoring skills is interesting. Death Nova ignores armor too. Lots of mesmer spells, and OH, is that why ray of judgement like, deletes everything so fast?

>>2158210
Holy Damage is armor ignoring.

i want to allymax. ive got spirits and minions going, what else can i do?

>>2158214
/R on everyone for pets

>>2158214
Avatar of Dwayna hero for aoe heal spam

>>2158214
Dwayna's Sorrow and Judge's intervention

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>tengu playable never fucking ever
still mad btw

>+4 SR to Scythe
My riches... cucked...

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>>2158248

>>2158262
i cant believe gw1 died for this shit

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>>2158269
Never forget what they took away from us.

>>2158248
Yo did you sail in from Elona

>>2158284
no i was born here

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>>2157398
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Mesmer_Primeval_armor
Mesmer Primeval pants are just panties.

>>2158210
yeah but because of scatter Jesus beam isn't that great all said.

>>2158198
3 seconds because of the cast time

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>>2158300
can confirm

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oh no

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>>2158317
prepare your anus

>>2158317
>activated war in kryta before finishing report to the white mantle
What did you DOOOOOOOOOOOO

my god, whoever designed hero AI to have casters run around aimlessly if they get attacked by melee and ignore flags needs to have their head sawn off slowly.

>>2158317
I warned you bro >>2154676
I warned you

>>2158339
can't you beat EOTN and not unlock WIK?

>>2158347
nyope

>>2158349
I could have sworn you had to talk to someone in order to get the new spawns

>>2158351
No, it'd be great if there was literally just a single quest stage more to start it up but it just rips that fuckin bandaid off

>>2158354
that sucks well, not like I use Kryta for anything aside from WiK content anyway
but I guess if you haven't finished prophecies first that's a pain in the ass.

>>2158354
My derv finished EOTN and even Proph, doesn't have WIK on. I'd need to talk to Murro and activate his quest.

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>>2158354
>>2158362

>>2157414
>you
im a paragon those skills are for my heroes will they ever use them like you said?
somehow i doubt that

>>2157533
>Ele
Infuse Prot
>Mesmer
Panic dom
>Necromancer
Definitely not MM, since it does not work at all in some areas. Probably ravenous gaze blood/death saccer.
>Assassin
ST 123
>Ritualist
ST 123
>Dervish
raper's sweep
>Paragon
Battle Rage spear damage
>Warrior
dorf battle stance, maybe. Something hammer because I like hammer, not 7WS because heavy stance removal will be AIDS. Losing DBS won't be fun, but it won't brick your build. Could also go devastating hammer, backbreaker, or erfshaker.
>Ranger
Pack hunter with a dire black moa
>Monk
WoH hybrid heal/prot, the most soulful bar in Guild Wars

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>>2158210
Yeah, this feels a lot better and will hopefully get me through till I have enough rep for Summon Spirits. I'll keep going between pumping spawning power and running a 0 investment parasitic bond vs a good life siphon but weaker spirits. Not quite sure what makes the most sense for me, yet. Glad I picked necro on the off chance that I just wanted to summon as many minions as possible.
>>2158302
I do wonder why I don't see a lot of stuns or slows with RoJway. That seems sensible.

>>2158317
i dont get it
whats wrong?

>>2158396
Instead of generic mobs that you would usually encounter, you're getting GW1 Beyond content instead. AkA Mobs with GWPvX Wiki build that the dev find and slap it on a mob.

so if they enabled pve skills on heroes, how will the meta change?
Paragon hero will become meta for sure, but otherwise i dont see any major changes in the meta

>>2158378
>dire black moa
its beak

>>2158411
Every retard will just have that shitty assassin summoning skill

>>2157533

>Ele
Definitely lightning, though fire isnt as shit as it shoulds desu.

>Necro
100% icy veins + putrid bile + necrosis

>Ritualist
SoS

>Assassin
123 , whether shadow theft or wota it doesnt matter

>Warrior
DRAGON SLASH DRAGON SLASH DRAGON SLASH DRAGON SLASH DRAGON SLASH DRAGON SLASH DRAGON SLASH

Didnt play the other classes

>>2158392
the last time I ever had fun on my monk was cryway
now I look at her every time I go through my characters and feel like if I hadn't invested in her early on I'd have just deleted her, cause I don't enjoy playing healing or prot, and smite just isn't that great.

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>>2158411
Rangerway becomes extremely good. Probably similar to how SoOSC looks. Might not be super optimal everywhere though. Monks MIGHT make a come back with seed of life but between ST and HR, you likely don't need more than a N/Rt BiP. BiP actually might not be used if you're running rangers i guess. Elementalist doesn't benefit from much besides a small increase via elemental lord, and EBSoH. Melee AI still sucks sadly. EVAS, YMLaD, and pain inverter are everywhere now.

>>2158411
I don't think you fully understand just how fucking broken most PvE skills are.

>>2158434
monk and warrior are my last two professions to make. I've even had a monk long ago and I deleted it for space. Warrior is just last cause the ranger i have is mostly melee, between daggers, axes, or the anni sword.

>>2158444
I initially made 1 of every class once I could, just to play them all
but I just found that I really dislike healing in GW, paying attention to UI and filling up red bars is just not fun, not to mention for as boring of a job as it is, it gets all the fucking pressure of the group, any death is immediately blamed on you.

>>2158451
Red barring isn't fun, imo. Prot is cool. Either being giga lazy and using ST or E/Mo bonder where it's pretty low upkeep, or being on amphetamines and being a prot monk.

>>2158411
the game will be fundamentally broken

>>2158439
>>2158475
so how will you break the game?
>>2158437
looks like a fun build, but would never be meta
would try though

>>2157377
love me some ranger, its the best class if you love alts because expertise lets you play almost anything

>>2158428
they might need to nerf that one for sure

>>2158484
by anything, it's really just warrior+assassin btw

>>2158478
hr, sy, rits with ss, eles with intensity, gdw, ebsoh

>>2158484
>>2158488
Nice i love assassin.
I kinda like warrior in other games because it's usually a very nervous gameplay, but not in gw1.

>>2158488
and necro, and rit

>>2158492
so which hero would you sacrifice for a paragon hero with SR?
and would you take ele heroes over mesmers because of intensity?

>ZM is kill shiro
ez 3 gold token

https://www.mmorpg.com/awards/mmorpg-2025-goty-awards-biggest-disappointment-and-biggest-surprise-of-2025-2000136931

>>2158488
>>2158496
And scythe and spear attacks. Pretty much anything (mes, ele and monk are for faggots anyway)

>>2158498
if you have a paragon with heroic refrain, save yourself, and there's nothing to fear, you drop the sos/resto. same as current HR mesmerway. You're so tanky at that point the BiP is enough, especially if the ST also gets summon spirits to help. A good question would be how would heroes use ebon escape though.

Ele with intensity+ebsoh would potentially be good, but there's still the issue of mesmers just being incredibly efficient bars for what they do, whereas ele bars are usually just "damage", or "less damage but also knockdown". I really think you just have mesmers with YMLaD, maybe evas, maybe a pain inverter or three if it's a big deal for the dungeon.

>>2158508
Neat
I don't hate Reforged, but I wish it was as big as they made it sound. All they really did is improve the cost of entry, add controller support and (so far) add two little gimmick badges. It's nice, I'm using controller after all, but it's nothing near what (example) Diablo 2 got.

>>2158512
maybe keep it to the elite skills
i just want more classes to be good

>>2158498
>>2158512
I meant ebsow not ebsoh but ebsoh would be retarded and broken too

>dude come help us in cantha
>first mission is a d-day style assault that lasts 5 hours

jesus christ

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>>2158544

>>2158544
>dude come help us in elona
>first mission is a gallipolli-style disaster where your leadership is captured and you're left stranded behind enemy lines, hiding in an insect warren

>>2158478
ebon assassin

if that's not enough for you, pain inverter just instant kills any boss that does AoE damage. You can HM solo final boss of both factions and EotN in under 1 minute with this skill.

if that's not enough for you, you can run technobabble for free unconditional AoE dazed.


But the true answer no one is thinking of is By Ural's Hammer. They don't know how to properly use this skill, but if you were willing to micro it, you could literally break the game with 8 heroes all running it and completely ignore death, anytime someone dies you just instant res them to full HP/energy, free damage boost. You don't even gain death penalty.

This is just the obscenely broken stuff btw. There's a truckload of even more retarded shit I would rather anet delete heroes than give them PvE only skills because it would make the game so boring.

>>2158586
Also while I was typing this I had an incredibly retarded idea.

Next time we do melee only Urgoz, having everyone bring "By Ural's Hammer" lol.

>>2158593
for me, it's assassin's promise B^U

What is the quintessential Baww Build?

>>2158586
>if that's not enough for you, pain inverter just instant kills any boss that does AoE damage. You can HM solo final boss of both factions and EotN in under 1 minute with this skill.
so what would change? you can already use pain inverter on a boss if you want to

>>2158609
ALL FIVE ATTUNEMENTS AT ONCE

>>2158611
>last 3 skills are from secondary profession

>>2158609
I think bawways usually just a hair or two off meta, personally. The thing that makes it work is we have people that are willing to tweak their builds slightly to fill in gaps or for better synergy, even if it's not the standard pvx build. We also have some chads that are willing to swap characters to what we need to ensure smooth runs.

>>2158609
a ritualist and a cup

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bought reforged and rolled a reforged necro
i took ele for my 2nd prof
i think i wanna do the legendary defender of ascalon title on my first character
how long does it take?

>>2158834
About 16 hours or so I've heard
Use a guide or you'll struggle more than necessary

>>2158434
monk exists for 55 memes

>>2158838
i've been looking up vids and i see the presearing necro guide. i gotta look up attribute breakpoints and xp breakpoints too.

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Which one of you fuckers did this?

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The jump in difficulty going to crystal desert is quite noticeable. That level difference from doing ldoa really did carry me.

>>2158850
Should I sell?

>>2158610
Now instead of only being able to cast it onto a single enemy, your heroes can cast it onto every enemy in a group.

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this is the ideal elementalist skillbar
you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
EoTN was a mistake

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>>2158856
No idea, but they are trending upwards

>>2158865
Where's..... Where's the spells....???????

>>2158865
wow think that you do this in exam

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i just found about armor infusion
i managed to always take the path that does not lead to the seer in all the missions apparently

Boys I need some IT help I woke up today and tried to turn my PC on and it keps powering up for 2-3secs then shutting down in a loop. It finally booted up fine and is now working fine but it scared me big time. PSU is a Corsair 750w one from 2013 or something.

>>2158302
everyone acts like scatter is the problem with roj but when i use it the mobs just stand in it and die, snared or not.
the real problems with RoJway:
- only works good if the player is melee.
- the metafag pvx wiki aoe damage focused melee builds don't work as good with it as stuff like knockdown spam so stuff like dragon slash > 100 blades.
- because running an aoe build on the player character makes you value positioning yourself to do the most damage with your player character instead of positioning yourself the best way for the hero ai and the heros will do more damage than you.
- wastes stray roj's on mobs that are running sometimes.
- the wiki team build is sorta trash imo, lots of room for optimization. many builds synergize with both roj and the types of player class builds you would want to run with roj and it doesn't explore this at all.
the reasons its not as good as mesmerway are more because its not plug-and-play and not player class agnostic. in an optimal situation it feels like it clears shit faster and safer than mesmerway but i haven't played it enough to know how well it does across the entire game.
if you're sick of mesmerway and play melee i highly recommend messing with rojway, i think there's a lot of room for optimization.