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New York teachers stunned to learn some students can’t read time on old clocks after phone ban comes into play

At least 31 states and the District of Columbia restrict cell phones in schools

Josh Marcus in San Francisco
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New York City teachers say the state’s recently implemented cell phone ban in schools has showed that numerous students no longer know how to tell time on an old-fashioned clock.

“That's a major skill that they're not used to at all,” Tiana Millen, an assistant principal at Cardozo High School in Queens, told Gothamist of what she’s noticed after the ban, which went into effect in September.

Students in the city’s school system are meant to learn basic time-telling skills in the first and second grade, according to officials, though it appears children have fallen out of practice doing so in an increasingly digital world.

“The constant refrain is ‘Miss, what time is it?’ Madi Mornhinweg, an English teacher in Manhattan, added in an interview with the outlet. “It’s a source of frustration because everyone wants to know how many minutes are left in class. … It finally got to the point where we I started saying ‘Where’s the big hand and where’s the little hand?’”

Students and teachers alike say they’ve seen a drastic change in school culture since the phone ban, supported by Governor Kathy Hochul and the New York City teacher’s union, went into effect.

New York state’s phone ban went into effect in September and teachers say they’ve watched as students struggle to tell time on old clocks
New York state’s phone ban went into effect in September and teachers say they’ve watched as students struggle to tell time on old clocks (Getty Images)

Observers say they’ve seen a flourish of person-to-person interaction, ranging from sports during recess to louder lunch room conversation.

“We’ve had a lot more school spirit,” Rosalmi, a senior at New Heights Academy Charter School in Harlem, told New York Magazine, in a December story that proclaimed the ban “saved high school” in the city, which is home to the largest public school system in the country. “People are more willing to do stuff.”

“Dominoes is really a staple Dominican game,” she added. “People get passionate. You have to slam that first piece down on the table!”

Students have also taken to playing board games and cards in spare moments.

Students have reportedly swapped scrolling for dominoes, volleyball, reading, and increased conversation in New York after the school phone ban
Students have reportedly swapped scrolling for dominoes, volleyball, reading, and increased conversation in New York after the school phone ban (AFP via Getty Images)

Others have tried to evade the spirit of the ban, using other digital devices sich as older iPods, or bringing walkie-talkies to school.

“I have a love-hate relationship with it,” Raisa Ibnat, 16, a senior at Brooklyn Tech, told The New York Times of the ban. “I do like the fact that my phone is away, and I’m more focused in class.”

“I don’t like the fact that I can’t do my homework in school, and I can’t take notes,” she added. “And because I have a long commute, now I have to bring, like, five notebooks.”

The New York City teacher’s union supported the phone ban proposal
The New York City teacher’s union supported the phone ban proposal (Copyright 2017 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.)

Prior to the ban, some local districts attempted phone bans, such as Schoharie, New York, which banned phones in 2022, and saw positive results and increased in-person socialization among students.

At least 31 states and the District of Columbia have some form of school phone restrictions on the books, according to Education Week.

California will soon join these states, with requirements under its recently passed Phone-Free School Act that every district develop a policy by July 2026.

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    1. Comment by Gobbolino.

      I am stunned to learn that these teachers were not already aware of this issue. I am a teacher and have been aware of it for at least 15 years. But then again I teach languages and the GCSE spec requires pupils to know how to say and understand both analogue and digital times in the language they are learning.

      • Comment by billyjojimbob.

        First of all, it's NOT "an old-fashioned clock"!

        It's an Analogue Clock!!!

        That's it!

        • Comment by European99.

          Same test in Europe would give totally different outcome

          • Comment by GDS.

            'Course, us old gits can use digital and analog timepieces. But the old analog clock/watch is far better at telling us 'how long until' and 'how long since'. No calculation needed!

            • Comment by AmericanLawyer.

              30 years ago, my elementary math teacher told us that we'd never need to learn to read a clock because of digital watches and clocks. Of course, this was also the same teacher who told us we wouldn't just have a calculator in our pockets everywhere we went.

              • Comment by MaybeMaybeNot.

                A friend of mine taught private math remedial classes back in 1980 or so. He would ask a student if they could tell time and they would say "yes." Then he would point at an old-fashioned clock. Often the response was, " Oh, not one of those."

                • Comment by dutch.

                  Try giving them a clock with roman numerals, noticed that a lot of kids look funny at you and scratch their head.

                  • Reply by Anonymous.

                    The one in my living room has roman numerals and my 3 yr old knows by looking at it what the hr is. The one in my dining room is roman numerals and turns anti clockwise (dad brought it from the Petronas twin towers Kuala Lumpur), it will be a while until she can figure out the time on that one!!

                • Comment by RickNYC.

                  Doesn't pass the sniff test.

                  • Comment by Freethought.

                    I'd have been surprised if they could have told time on a regular clock.

                    • Reply by Freethought.

                      That was my thought also. We learned to tell time at home, among other essentials, like tying our shoes and not talking to strangers.

                    • Reply by Tnlobo420.

                      Looking both ways before you cross the street.

                  • Comment by Mixdiver.

                    Another leap toward idiocracy

                    • Reply by BaronBleeke01.

                      Idiocracy

                      Is

                      Inevitable

                    • Reply by Mixdiver.

                      Sadly true

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