I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, I'm using openSUSE right now and I have no reason to do so

>>107711139
Stow your urge to distrohop with the knowledge that distros are 99% the same.

>>107711139
B-but why?! You are insane

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>>107710984 (OP)
I am only browser + image viewer + 3/4 terminals + emacs. Should I be worried because I have very less free ram? Also why does it use so much for "cached".
>t. only understand what ram is from it's definition; nothing more, nothing less

>>107711157
I will never understand distrohoppers. They make their life harder by hopping distros all the time. If they get the urge why not just run it on a VM for their weekly fix?

>>107711163
'Available' is the one that matters. 'Cached' is just RAM that isn't allocated to anything that the kernel is using for caching stuff to improve performance.
I'd say buy more RAM, but if you're still on an 8GB machine then it's probably prohibitively expensive to do so.

>>107711139
Didn't they get rid of yast? At that point OpenSUSE is the same as every other distro, which isn't a bad thing.

>>107711163
cached are things that were used and freed. Instead of wiping the ram, the kernel keeps it there in case you want to use it again. It's pretty good that way.

>>107711163
Available RAM = Cached RAM + Free RAM
Cached RAM is just RAM that holds data that you might wanna access later, for example, if you open a heavy app (like firefox) it will open slow the first time, but the next time you open the app it will be faster because it was cached to RAM.
If a program needs more memory it will clear some cache and use the now freed space.

tldr; you don't need to worry about it

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>>107711163
cutie numbers.
Damn you, firefox.

>>107711270
Stop hoarding tabs

>>107711303
that's easier said than done

>>107711220
>>107711250
>>107711229
>the kernel is using for caching stuff to improve performance.
>cached are things that were used and freed
>Available RAM = Cached RAM + Free RAM
>If a program needs more memory it will clear some cache and use the now freed space.
it makes more sense now and here I was really worried like wtf is going on, I thought Cached ram was different from what we normally refer to "cache". I will buy more RAM when the price decreases, most of the stuff except compiling works okay for me. Thanks!

>>107711270
lol, I just use Auto Tab Discard with only 3 tabs active at a time.

>>107711270
unsed ram is wasted ram or something

>>107711344
You could use zram or swap for memory intensive applications, look these up and learn about them if you want to squeeze more memory out of your system.

>>107711348
Majority of my tabs shouldn't be loaded either. But I have 1618 of them.

>>107711358
true

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>>107710984 (OP)
any reason NOT to use veracrypt on linux?

>>107710984 (OP)
Did you just find your old Linux shitbox from 2008 and took a screenshot kek?

>>107711396
because luks

>>107711381
wtf lol, highest i ever had was around ~120, at present it's 54
>>107711358
yeah

>>107711380
I use swap, will look into zram, thanks

>>107711607
the number just keeps growing. (send help)

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My distrohopping journey has begun. I will explore and build my next desktop experience piece by piece as I see fit. I will no longer allow myself to be burdened with useless programs, runtime dependencies, and files cluttering my system.

I will probably keep Lubuntu on my laptop. It serves. My desktop needs some cleanup.

>>107711689
>distrohopping journey
you have nothing better to do at the end of the year?

>>107711689
If you don't want to be burdened by useless programs, do an arch install. Add ufw, a browser, and whatever else you want. Select a DE. Done.

>>107711412
but vcrypt is easier and more convenient

>>107711718
Why would you need ufw if you are behind a NAT router?

>>107711718
Do you even need ufw in arch?

>>107711734
Extra layer of security
>>107711761
Gives me peace of mind

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>you can actually cd into your music folders and just "mpv *"
>all controls work
Hehe I am so minimal I barely exist.
I found out it's pretty fun to tinker with small terminal programs and see how small I can get in storage space and limited compute.
I can't yet escape having a huge browser like firefox for the shared bookmarks and passwords function, but anything else is free range. I see it as a natural progression in my linux usage. A kind of software purity that drew me in, in the first place.
Do you guys bother with minimalism in general? Do you think it's a trap? A refuge? A stupid tinkerer's obsession?

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Is there any reason to use "real containers" such as Docker instead of just

systemd-nspawn -D /path/to/some/linuxsystem

?

>>107711761
Nobody needs ufw anywhere.
>>107711941
So you just want to make your system unresponsive to pings and basically have all that "desktop ruleset" junk? There are plenty of NFtables examples out there.

>>107711702
>you have nothing better to do at the end of the year?
I've been sick all Christmas and my stationary computer is in shambles, literally.

Has hyprpaper stopped working for anyone here after updating arch recently?

>>107712015
everything stops working after updating arch such is the archlife

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>>107711978
Basically

>>107711948
That's great and all, but can you play video in TTY without having wayland or x11 installed using --gpu-context=drm ?
I've never tried that.

>>107712030
what kind of rules are these?

>>107712282
Just a few ports for steam and jellyfin, and then it blocks everything else incoming and allows all outgoing

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>>107712058
Sent me in a rabbithole
It would work on both mplayer and mpv but they bother require a shitload of libraries.
Mpv also requires wayland if I'm not mistaken so it's a nogo.
Is mpv really the smallest you can go, as far as video players go? It surprised me.
I thought I would find some based autist project with a 2000LOC C-based framebuffer-only video player somewhere, if such a thing makes sense.
Picrel doesn't look minimal.

>>107712343
Might have to use Gentoo. Should be able to compile mpv without requiring wayland. I don't think it actually requires wayland itself.

>>107712394
Or actually scratch that, you can just download mpv from github and compile it yourself for Arch too. Without the wayland dep.

>>107712401
That's pretty cool. So the answer is yes?

>>107712523
I don't know. It is probably not yes, but I don't know what the answer is if it's no.

>>107711157
>distros at 99% the same
false
opensuse is green
arch is blue
fedora is blue but different
ubuntu is orange
nixos is yellow
my dick is green
endeavouros is purple
cachyos is sort of green? teal
windows is blue
debian is red

>>107712742
wait no nixos is blue I'm talking about guix sorry

>look up KDE themes
>a hundred Windows imitations
>a hundred MacOS limitations
>a billion """modern""" flatshit themes that all look the exact fucking same
What a load of shite. The reactionary Win9x themes are cute but they lean a bit too far into "imitation" territory for me with some of the icons. Any nice KDE themes out there that have something of a boxy 3D and/or skeumorphic look to them?

>>107711734
NAT is not security, a compromised host on the LAN can fuck your shit up.

Also learn nftables and stop being a baby with ufw or whatever other retardation. It's not hard.

>>107711225
Some people would say it's pointless without it. In my honest opinion, having used openSUSE a few years ago, I found YaST to be stuck in the past (heh), seriously though there's a lotta shit you do not need a GUI for.
My problem with openSUSE is that at this point, Tumbleweed seems to be just basically arch + bloat - AUR + obs. It's not the only distro with snapshots set up by default. It's bleeding edge enough that it sometimes pushes newer packages before Arch does. It's kind of obtuse with stuff non-linux users might want to get working right away (davinci resolve and placebo shit for games like adding 25 different kernel patches). Or extra dumb shit you gotta do manually like adding your user to a group before things actually work. Not that it's difficult, just unintuitive.
Slowroll, I don't honestly know what the hell does it even try to do, a Manjaro?

>>107712771
Wew lad I mentioned this 2 years ago over here and people crucified me for it. It is true, isn't it? Hell if it's just imitations, where's the good imitation of Mavericks for Plasma? How do I make Plasma look exactly like fucking Mavericks? Or Snow Leopard or any of those before El Capitan and whatever came before I can't remember.
Oh no we need our fucking transparent blur

>>107712835
Yeah Slowroll is basically Tumbleweed except the non-critical updates come every month or two.

>>107712771
>Any nice KDE themes out there that have something of a boxy 3D and/or skeumorphic look to them?
Oxygen I guess

>>107712855
Is it worth switching to that?
I wonder if it's just a delay or if there's some actual testing done. If there's a criticism against a distro like the one I mentioned, Manjaro, is that they really seemed pretty fucking careless and lazy about the whole process of "freezing" packages.
I think I read somewhere that you can switch between TW and Slowroll back and forth with no trouble. Which is strange.

>>107711978
>Docker
>real containers
Real containers are LXC/LXD, docker is exclusively for application containers.

>>107711978
>Nobody needs ufw anywhere
It is very easy to manage and powerful, lots of people use ufw.

I know this is a stupid question but
Is there a way to configure notifications in Plasma so that certain more specific events don't show a popup or make a sound?
Not for this in particular, but an example is this: I want it to show a notification if I plug X device with X descriptor, but I don't want it to show one when I plug Y device. I just don't want to outright disable all notifications related to unplugging and plugging devices.

>>107712869
I searched for that and found one called "Suave" which appears to be inspired by it. It's pretty nice but it doesn't seem to let me change the window title bar colour which is gay.

>>107712902
Slowroll isn't publicly advertised yet as it's still in beta, so you'd basically be beta testing the OpenSUSE team's ability to curate a usable package base each month. From what I hear it's fine, but if you don't wanna be a beta tester, don't be one.

>>107712954
>it doesn't seem to let me change the window title bar colour which is gay.
Open the svg (from $HOME/.local/share/plasma) in Inkscape to change the colours.

>>107712961
Yeah if I'm already pretty much a beta tester from using a rolling release like TW might as well stay this way

>>107712969
oh I get it, cumbersome but thanks to the pointer. The titlebar buttons don't align properly on maximised windows either but I doubt there's a similar easy fix for that.

>>107712987
actually I feel like my "fix" for both of these might just be to use the Plastik window decorations instead lmao.

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>>107710984 (OP)
That's the coolest looking rice I've seen. How?

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Is it possible to move a partition leftward without data corruption? I want to get rid of my windows parition and give it to linux, but the linux partition is fairly far down the drive.

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Finally, someone from the Linux community speaking truth to power

>>107713051
Nvidia apologists are amusing. I used nvidia card myself not long ago and it was an absolutely miserable experience. Even if wayland fixed every nvidia issue pertaining to wayland for them it'd still be broken as fuck everywhere else.

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how can i set tearfree "on" permanently?

TearFree goes back to "auto" after i log out of my session. im using this command to enable it, it goes from "auto" to "on" and works perfectly with my amdgpu:
>xrandr --output <my-display> --set TearFree on
but it turns off after i log out.

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>>107713358
Gemini says

>>107713358
>manually configuring xorg
Are you one of them mythical "window manager" cavemen?

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>>107713407
thank u, that's what i read in this tutorial too:
https://linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_fix_screen_tearing
i will try it llater, i didn't yet because theres no file in /xorg.conf.d so i found strange, but i need to create one, got it

>>107713469
no, its xfce with their compositor turned off. their compositor acts strange so i turned off and got the tearing disease but now i can see the light

>>107711734
Most people either have a shit router or they dont trust their router to properly do its job

>>107711978
systemd-nspawn is more like a chroot on steroids than a container, it's closer to similarity with lxc than docker/podman but i dont think nspawn does rootless containers as the root user the same way lxc does

>>107713051
I've seen the exact same nvidia blame game played in these threads before

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>>107713158
Nvidia already open sourced their drivers, chud

>>107713358
You can just put it in a script and have it run on startup every time

>>107713741
>chug
ugh
nta, but its weird how so many people don't know that nvidia has open source drivers, did everyone fall into a time warp or something?

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>>107713737
>>107713752
AI is the future of compute, chuds

>>107713747
theoretically, would it work if i just throw it at .profile and .bashsrc? they basically start at startup

>>107713752
Nvidia drivers aren't open source. The kernel modules are open sores. Nvidia driver consists of several components and the kernel modules are only a small part of them.

I like boring distros that just work.

>>107713833
Based Fedora chad

>>107713833
List some then

>>107713774
Maybe but it wouldn't be a good idea because it would also run every time you open a tty, terminal, or ssh session
you could do something like

 [ -n "$DISPLAY" ] && xrandr 

But a better idea would be to just set it as a script and have it autostart when you load the desktop
putting it in .xprofile or .xinitrc might also work but i don't know if your DE will read that file when it runs at startup (there's also .xsession but i don't remember if that's been deprecated or not)

>>107713752
Not everyone is terminally online
I wasn't aware about the current shortage being a thing until recent

>>107713358
>but it turns off after i log out.
well, obviously? Do you think this little command you put in will stay magically active until eternity?

>>107713158
I used a Nvidia card for 10 years and had no issues with it (besides lack of vram)

>>107713868
Debian
Opensuse Leap
Almalinux Kitten/RockyLinux/RHEL
Mint/LMDE
Ubuntu LTS


>>107713861
Fedora is still too unstable for me

Just wanted to tell everybody my experience:

I hopped to EndeavourOS about two months ago, I've used Windows starting with 98 since I was a literal toddler and so far I've loved my Linux experience. I bounce between Gemini and the Arch Wiki for information on how to do certain things, last week I finally finished configuring my task bar and now I'm gonna rice the look of my file explorer.

The worst part is still the image and video software. GIMP is a nightmare, is way worse than PS in every way imaginable and I'm still figuring out plugins and patches to give it all the tools I need. Kdenlive and Friction are pretty good tho.

>>107710984 (OP)
Fuck this stupid OS, I'm on my, like 7th distro at this point.
Maybe I should go back to Ubuntu, suck Canonicals dick and have a just werks system

>>107713966
Sounds pretty relatable; I started off on 95. Started fucking around with linux a bit during the XP era. Finally swapped entirely during the windows 8.x era. Mostly used Mint, but then swapped to Fedora for a while, absolutely loved it. Had to downgrade to Ubuntu LTS for jellyfin
>>107713969
Depending on your needs, Fedora is best imo

>>107713966
There's a way to make gimp look more like photoshop but i dont remember the name of the project, i guess searching gimp photoshop theme or something similar might bring it up

I never understood distro hoppers, seems like a mental illness. I did my research and concluded that Fedora was the best for my needs and I never even thought about changing.

>>107714086
Sometimes you get bored of blue logos so you switch to a different color

>>107714086
Fear or missing out, and not knowing the difference between package managers, kernels, and desktop environments. It's obviously a learning process.

>>107713936
Good for you, but I didn't have the same experience. It was just issues after issues. Starsector? Needs workaround. MPV? Needs workaround. Frostpunk? Just don't alt tab. Escape from Tarkov? Lmao buy 32GB of VRAM/use specific version of Proton. Oh.. and make sure you don't alt tab. Want to record using spectacle? Tough shit chumbo, empty file for you.
Issues after issues after issues. Granted I know some of these issues can be fixed by installing a different older nvidia drivers, but I seriously don't need my life to revolve around tinkering with the nvidia driver versions just to get my computer to work normally.

>>107713407
this worked! yeee now xfce is great, i got lost on nano for some time, i barely use it, only geany
>>107713875
thanks for the input too, i think the solution above will do, and it seems stable enough. i didnt want to tinker with compositors so i was happy finding about that tearfree built in option in x11, thx for the anon who suggested it!
>>107713913
weeeell it could do what i telling it to do, forever i say!

someone times kde brightness control fails i.e. I can change the brightness via keys or the slider but the display itself won't change in brightness. I checked /sys/class/backlight/amdgpu_bl1/brightness and it seems it never gets modified. So I can just modify that to get brightness control back but its still halfbroken. Any ideas how to fix this? I tried systemctl --user restart plasma-powerdevil.service but that also times out.
Seems to be a recent bug due to using a external display and removing it when the device is powered off.

>>107714405
>Any ideas how to fix this?
a) install a working version of KDE where the bug is not present
b) install another DE where the bug is not present

>>107714327
That's dope dude, glad to hear it

>>107714405
Idk if they have redshift for kde, but that's what I was using back when I was using mint cinnamon. You don't have brightness control on your monitor?

>>107714450
I do I meant the laptop hardware button and the plasma manual brightness slider fail. I can plug in a external monitor and control that fine via usb4 but sometimes if you plug it out while the laptop is suspended the powerdevil service seems to bug out. Online seems to suggest disabling ddcutil but that also does nothing.
Its a strange heisenberg bug thats not easily reproducible.

How do I disable pipewire idling? I have an USB audio interface (DAC) and every time pipewire pauses and resumes I hear a fucking pop.

>>107714489
I have the same problem on a HP2000, but I just used redshift to correct it

Anyone else has lower performance when using gamescope? I lose a solid 10fps (92 vs 81fps) on wuwa, is this normal?
I do have a nvidia gpu.

>>107714739
Idk what that is. What OS are you using?

>>107714772
CachyOS
>Idk what that is
Gamescope? See
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamescope

>>107714538
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire#Noticeable_audio_delay_or_audible_pop/crack_when_starting_playback

But if you're using a DAC it might have it's own built in suspend function (mine does) in which case you can disable that with wireplumber by outputting inaudible digital noise to the DAC at all time so it doesn't get the idea of going to sleep.

>>107714739
Seems like you don't understand what you're doing.

>>107714739
Gamescope rarely works well with nvidia card.

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>>107710984 (OP)
>have a 17.44 GB btrfs partition with gentoo rootfs
>about 14 GB are used, decide to move it and resize it
>try to move the partition using gparted from a live usb
>gets stuck at "17.42 GB of 17.44 GB copied"
>few hours pass
>still stuck at 17.42 GB
>check htop
>gparted is in D state (disk sleep)
>mfw
>try to send commands to the disk
>bash is now in D state
>panic
>reboot into the live usb
>repair the partition with gparted
>remount and check my partition
>everything looks fine at first glance
>run sudo btrfs check /dev/sda6
>no errors
>mounted /dev/sda6 on /mnt/gentoo and run sudo btrfs scrub start -B /mnt/gentoo
>"ERROR: there are 1 uncorrectable errors"
Just how fucked is my filesystem?
Is there any hope of repairing it or finding the corrupted files?

>>107714816
What do you mean? This is the command I am using:

 PROTON_DLSS_UPGRADE=1 PROTON_DLSS_INDICATOR=1 PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1 gamescope -W 3440 -H 1440 -r 144 --adaptive-sync --immediate-flips -f --mangoapp -- %command% -dx11 

And I lost around 10 fps when compared to just using:

 mangohud PROTON_DLSS_UPGRADE=1 PROTON_DLSS_INDICATOR=1 PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1 %command% -dx11 

>>107714787
Sounds like slop, but you do you

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Any easy guide on how to make armbian? its quite heavy for my Banana Pi M2-Zero but theres not much else thats supported on it

I already disabled the DE

>>107713942
>Ubuntu LTS
What's your reasoning behind this? Isn't Ubuntu kinda a no-no cause Amazon partnership?

>>107714796
Thanks for the link, will check it out.

>>107714860
>[PROTON_DLSS_UPGRADE=1 PROTON_DLSS_INDICATOR=1 PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1 gamescope -W 3440 -H 1440 -r 144 --adaptive-sync --immediate-flips -f --mangoapp -- %command% -dx11 [/code]
In most cases you don't need any specific proton environment variables except for proton_use_ntsync (because this is something what steam don't seem to yet enable by default - also remember that ntsync is only supported by proton version 9 upwards).
I have some experience with gamescope and I think it is bit overrated in this sense. Only use it if you have trouble with plain game - if it crashes often or if it has trouble containing mouse. Otherwise you are better without goyscope in my opinion.
Also don't use mangoapp. -dx11 won't do much unless you have read that this specific game supports this particular parameter.
What I often do is that I disable vsync in-game and let my window environment handle the vsync. I can always turn off 'compositing' to disable window environment vsync too. So if you haven't, always turn off in-game vsync regardless.
eg. gamescope is one of a kind but it is surprisingly shitty unless you REALLY need it.

>>107714860
Oh wait I forgot you should always use 'gamemoderun' that's free fps especially if you are not setting the cpu power modes yourself etc. You need to install that first for your particular distro.
>gamemoderun gamescope -f --adaptive-vsync --immediate-flips -w 3440 -h 1440 -W 3440 -H 1440 -- %command%

>>107714890
>it has trouble containing mouse
a very common problem

>>107715004
Unfortunately at least for me, whenever I enable --force-grab-cursor, mouse sensitivity does not match the vanilla game sensitivity and also feels like it has slight acceleration too. Shouldn't be that hard to make 1:1 sensitivity really but it is what it is. I mean in my head it should be dead simple because the virtual window is the same size as the desktop anyhow...

>ugh... this distro doesnt have the specific aesthethics i want, im gonna download and install a completelly different distro
why do retards do this? do they not know you can customize the DE on linux ?

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Going through picrel after moving to gnu/linux from windows.

Feels like it is equivalent to Jeffrey Richters winapi books imo, liking it so far and easy to follow along.

>>107715037
dunno, I've never use it

>>107714869
>Amazon partnership
That was like 12 years ago..?
Get with the times, grandpa
Ubuntu LTS just works, and it's one of the most widely supported Linuxes

>>107715055
I don't know if this is an add or something but i'm intrigued enough to look into it.

>>107715168
It's still shit, just not for the amazon bullshit.

>>107715037
>but it is what it is.
Works in Xorg. And Xlibre (probably).

>>107710984 (OP)
not really related to the thread but where is the best place to find metlaheart renders like this guy's background? i really miss that asthetic, and it's so hard to find these days

>>107715397
I don't understand your post. Seems like you are a typical /g/ imbecil who is only able to express himself in polarized manner.
"it works" doesn't mean shit, retard.

>>107714837
>Is there any hope of repairing it
No.
>or finding the corrupted files?
If a file is affected it should show the inode in dmesg

>switch between hyprland and kde
>all my browser cookies from that session get wiped
I'm going fucking insane how do I stop this

>>107715429
https://www.desktopgeneration.com/

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I made this wallpaper 10 years ago while blackout drunk and I don't ever recall sharing it online (probably did multiple times on this board, but that period is a blur, lol) and just found it in a folder. I don't even remember what program I used, I just remember fine-tuning the shit out of that concentric gradient.

>>107715436
>I don't understand your post.
Sounds like you're the retard then.

With X you'd have no issue with games failing to capture the mouse.

Anybody else experience random freezes on Void Linux? It will freeze and mouse and keyboard will not work and I have to reboot with power button. The caps lock light flashes which I think indicates kernel panic.
I installed Void many times and this seems to be a recurring issue. Installed it on Thinkpad X220.

>>107715525
nevermind it was kwallet

>>107715820
>Anybody else experience random freezes on Void Linux?
Nope, but I've only just switched to Void ~3weeks ago.
How frequently do these freezes occur?

Also this reminds me; have you (or anyone else on Void) been able to install wine staging?
I've "successfully" used xbps-src to build wine with the staging build option enabled.
And after installing this self-built package

wine --version

will even say that I'm on staging.
BUT as soon as I try to do anything else (winecfg, wine something.exe, ...) it gives me an error about a version mismatch and that wine has not been updated correctly...
By now I've self-built wine, wine-32bit and wine-common all w/ staging option, and I still get this fucking version mismatch.
Rebooting does nothing.
Anyone any idea??

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So I've been trying ZFS (2.4.0) on Linux (6.18.2) and I'm a little disappointed. I made a pool of a single mirror vdev of two 4TB HDDs, it writes at nearly full speed, scrubs at nearly full speed, but for regular file sequential reads it is severely underperforming.

Pic related, from top to bottom is:
- ZFS pool at ~30% usage, testing on empty dataset with compression off and default recordsize, 1 mirror vdev 2 HDDs
- Same ZFS dataset with 2 threads
- ext4 over mdraid 1 over dm-integrity at 99% usage, some fragmentation, 2 HDDs
- Same mdraid 1 over dm-integrity with 2 threads
- ext4 over bare mdraid 1 at 99% usage, heavily fragmented, 1 HDD (degraded)

Why is my ZFS so slow? It won't even scale with 2 threads like bare mdraid 1 does, in fact it gets significantly SLOWER. It's even getting its ass beat by an array of dm-integrity volumes for crying out loud.

Both drives are capable of 180-210MB/s peak, and that is indeed what I see when scrubbing, so what is going on and how do I even begin to figure this out?

>"dude gaming in linux is good now I know I say this every year but trust me!"
>try to play serious sam tfe it's unplayably choppy and freezy
>try to play touhou 6 or 7 I get vpatch errors and nondescript boxes for errors (I don't even get the errors in nippanese even though I edited the lang and enabled jajp utf in bottles
>try to play a popular visual novel it doesn't launch
>find out that videos in visual novels don't even work some of the time because of a copyrighted codec or something, so in place of finishing your kino 80 hour long vn and getting a credits scene with a defining outro song your game just farts out and crashes and your immersion is ruined as you go onto youtube just to watch the ending
fell for it again award

>>107715978
interested to see what others will say but what is your ashift value? zfs is slower than ext4 because it does a whole lot more shit and involves CoW. should it be that slow? i don't know. mirrors should generally read fast though. you could try the same tests on a dataset with a larger recordsize, ie 1M or something

but yeah that is interesting, hopefully others will weigh in for you

>>107716045
works for the games I play. not that hard to dual boot anyways for the couple of games you want to play. if you care that much about gaymin them maybe you should play games less.

>>107716045
novideo gpu?

Do NOT look up who the first African to go space was

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>>107716054
>what is your ashift value?
12, they're all AF drives. And yes the drives are known good.

I tried a dataset with 1MB recordsize + no compression and did get better results but still poor. Got 140MB/s on the very first run for Q8T1 but since then it consistently won't even reach 120.

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>>107715978
try some tests using

zpool iostat -v 5 POOL

from testing 4-wide Z1s and then 8-wide Z1s, it seems that ZFS just has poor per-drive performance and scaling
thought it was the sync property having to slow down to sync 4-8 drives, but there was no perceptible impact during my =disabled tests, and further reading said it doesn't really affect "slow" drives

what checksum are you using?
I used BLAKE3 for all my pools and just chalked up all the substandard performance to ZFS being paranoid during every single op

>>107714048
>downgrade for jellyfin
...just run it in a container? run my entire media stack on a few podman containers and it just werks anywhere i want to put em

>>107712925
>It is very easy to manage and powerful, lots of people use ufw.
What kind of "power" do you need from a firewall?
>>107713715
chroot doesn't count as a container? Thought it would.

>>107716285
>try some tests using

zpool iostat -v 5 POOL

This is the best result so far on the 1MB rs dataset... ZFS says 132M, KDiskMark says 113MB/s. I remain unimpressed.

                                             capacity     operations     bandwidth 
pool                                       alloc   free   read  write   read  write
-----------------------------------------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
xxxx                                       1.12T  2.51T    131      0   132M      0
  mirror-0                                 1.12T  2.51T    131      0   132M      0
    ata-ST4000VN008-2DR166                     -      -      4      0  4.40M      0
    ata-ST4000VN006-3CW104                     -      -    127      0   127M      0

Looks like the newer of the two drives is servicing almost all the reads too, I was expecting more of a load share.

>>107716285
>what checksum are you using?
Default, fletcher-something.

>>107716370
>chroot doesn't count as a container? Thought it would.
A chroot by itself is too easy to escape.

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>>107716406
Processes being able to haxor out of one is somehow relevant regarding the definition? Is chroot a sandbox then? Who makes these definitions?
idk shit about this stuff desu

Is Debian Testing a good alternative to Ubuntu non-LTS? I noticed when testing that it already has some newer packages, and probably is more likely to get feature updates quicker than Ubuntu's 6 months releases. Plus Debian doesn't have Snaps and various Ubuntu annoyances.

What I'm considered about is system integrity and security holes. Plus any Debian annoyances (only experienced one so far - the installer didn't put my main user in sudoers automatically)

In general I'm liking what I'm seeing with Debian Testing.

>>107716475
>installer didn't put my main user in sudoers automatically
That option was in the "expert" mode of the installer. Sudo is a meme to me anyway, I just su, do wat do, and exit.

>>107716394
that does look strange for a mirror
dunno exactly how ZFS treats mirrors, but maybe could be some background energy saving setting, or some maybe some strange mutex shit

>>107716475
"Testing" is just an alias for the next upcoming release "Forky" which is expected to be "stable" by around 2027. By all means try it if you are fine with the instability for a while.
>and probably is more likely to get feature updates quicker than Ubuntu's 6 months releases
Debian releases wont get feature updates.

>>107716530
AFAIK Debian Testing is updated continually until 6 months before the next major Debian release, when it becomes frozen. Major Debian releases happen every ~2 years so AFAIK it's generally more up-to-date than Ubuntu non-LTS.

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my syslogs are growing in size ad infinitum, apparently due to my mouse? they are at over 40 GB already

2025-12-31T03:04:30.476627+01:00 r7600 kernel: [ 4789.369729] hid-generic 0003:046D:C31C.0005: control queue full
2025-12-31T03:04:30.476628+01:00 r7600 kernel: [ 4789.369747] hid-generic 0003:046D:C31C.0005: control queue full
2025-12-31T03:04:30.476628+01:00 r7600 kernel: [ 4789.369766] hid-generic 0003:046D:C31C.0005: control queue full
2025-12-31T03:04:30.476628+01:00 r7600 kernel: [ 4789.369784] hid-generic 0003:046D:C31C.0005: control queue full
2025-12-31T03:04:30.476629+01:00 r7600 kernel: [ 4789.369802] hid-generic 0003:046D:C31C.0005: control queue full

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>>107716471
>Processes being able to haxor out of one is somehow relevant regarding the definition?
... yes, because "a chroot" is nothing more than changing a process' root directory, exposed through /proc/self/root. The chroot syscall just changes the root path. Nothing more. It's not an effective security feature on its own, even if it is a privileged operation.

>>107716509
This is what the writing part of the benchmark looks like btw:

                                             capacity     operations     bandwidth 
pool                                       alloc   free   read  write   read  write
-----------------------------------------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
xxxx                                       1.12T  2.51T      0    290      0   290M
  mirror-0                                 1.12T  2.51T      0    290      0   290M
    ata-ST4000VN008-2DR166                     -      -      0    126      0   127M
    ata-ST4000VN006-3CW104                     -      -      0    163      0   163M

You can see the aggregate bandwidth is much higher. The drive unevenness here is weird because both should be able to reach >170MB/s 30% in, I've tested both before this. I guess ZFS just really doesn't like the older one.

>>107716629
>apparently due to my mouse?
According to Google that USB ID is for a Logitech K120. Check if you have a stuck key, and that all your keys are working properly.

>>107716629
>>107716686
nvm apparently it was because i plugged my keyboard to the front USB hub rather than the rear, wierd. It stopped now. My log file got up to 61GB of raw text and the kern.log file seemed to mirror it

>>107710984 (OP)
hello, i installed firejail but it keeps failng to firejail palemoon. i have the tarball of palemoon and i put it into /usr/local/lib/palemoon/

and i have the symlink for palemoon in /usr/local/bin/palemoon

but everytime i wanna firejailt it heres the output:

https://dpaste.com/4KMRPKJZ3

any good frontend for a mediacenter + emulation center on a raspberry pi or similar ARM computers?
something that doesnt need a keyboard and mouse obviously, that can be used wth a gamepad or a blluetooth remote

So a new version of Mint came out since I put it on my pc, am I supposed to upgrade to a newer version?

Also should I just distro hop? What's the best distro for gaming? I heard about Bazzite, but it has some weird tranny shit going on with it and someone on here told me it was just Fedora with stuff tacked on. Is Fedora good for gaming?

>>107716638
>The drive unevenness here is weird because both should be able to reach >170MB/s 30% in
Actually scratch that, it seems it's just an iostat accounting/presentation issue during the switch between write and read phases of the benchmark, this was the next output, which already includes a few reads:

                                             capacity     operations     bandwidth 
pool                                       alloc   free   read  write   read  write
-----------------------------------------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
xxxx                                       1.12T  2.51T      7    172  7.40M   172M
  mirror-0                                 1.12T  2.51T      7    172  7.40M   172M
    ata-ST4000VN008-2DR166                     -      -      1    122  1.80M   122M
    ata-ST4000VN006-3CW104                     -      -      5     49  5.60M  50.0M

Taken together they are roughly even, but only when writing. I don't get it.

>>107716749
Fedora if you want to set things up yourself, Nobara if you're lazy and don't mind that it's being maintained by one person and a few helping hands at best.

>>107715978
ZFS is much more given to fragmentation even compared to btrfs much less ext4. Their solution is always moar spindles or add flash.

>>107716832
Well, this is still a new pool and I still have the original copies of its data, so I suppose I could destroy it and see if btrfs raid 1 does any better.

>after testing out few window managers
>cwm is pretty cool but doesn't game at all, even dosbox runs at 5 fps regardless of picom/no picom/whatever settings -> into the trash it goes
>dwm just sucks (gaming wise okay though)
>bspwm is actually great, easy to customize (hyprland easy) and you can script it, very low memory footprint and it works with games too
>openbox is probably okay too but the retarded menu syntax wasn't for me etc
>didn't try widowmaker and other oldies
This is it for X11. If you want something lighter than Xfce4 use BSPWM or maybe Openbox.
Everything else is more or less trash or just too autistic and unusable for anything real.

>>107717301
>Everything else is more or less trash or just too autistic and unusable for anything real.
JWM has been solid for me, and very easy to configure as well.

>>107717383
I was looking into that too but decided to skip it or maybe I forgot it.

>>107717301
>>107717301
>>after testing out few window managers
doing something same- ish
>lxqt
>openbox
>niri
>kwin
>ly display manager
i want to have a x session and wayland with laptop. whilst docking station at home use x session, and when traveling use niri, since that has the best gestures with workspaces.

>>107716394
something is very odd. the strength of a mirror is that both drives can read different parts of a file from disk at the same time, but yours is basically showing that only one drive is doing all the reads. you could try with a different tool maybe? your mirror is not functioning like a mirror, as far as i know

>>107717662
It's a pain to set things up properly but after you do that it's there forever (if you make backups...).
I never knew it is possible to animate windows with xdotool. I have scripted minimize/hide animations and whatnot. Still needs work it's a process.

>>107714868
You could try using alpine instead but its not an easy process
And if alpine doesnt support your board (which it probably doesnt), you can try copying the kernel and other boot files along with the kernel modules from the armbian image to the alpine rootfs

>>107714869
Ubuntu is a no-no because snaps and spyware

>>107715978
Does ZFS perform better on freebsd than on linux?

>>107716370
A chroot is like a manual container, you would basically have to set up everything manually that other container systems do automatically for you and i dont know how you would go about setting up things like a separate or isolated network interface in a chroot.

>>107716586
Theres not much reason to use debian testing when you could be using sid/unstable instead. Testing updates lag behind by weeks or months while sid will always get updates much quicker.

>>107711270

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>>107713034
>>107715429
>>107711398
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107524364/#107541465
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107482038/#q107517413

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>>107716475
testing and sid do not get security team coverage, which means that you rely on upstream AND the maintainer updating routinely to fix cves. they're usually pretty good, and oftentimes testing/sid get the fix before stable. other times they don't, and a known cve stays unfixed. it's quite rare and probably doesn't matter much on a personal machine, but it can happen
see here:
https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2025-25473

>>107716530
during the freeze the package migration from sid to triie increases a LOT. i checked during last freeze and some packages were 20 days or more. this can definitely leave you open.

however, what you can actually do is use sid kind of like backports in stable. you can add the sid repo and install packages from sid, or pin them permanently in cases like firefox:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting#Best_practices_for_Testing_users
so in theory you could install the cve fied packages from sid during the freeze to get them quicker. there was a project somewhere that did that


>>107718136
testing does actually get more testing than sid. the lag time between sid->testing package transitions is part of that. there's also a suite of automated build tests that have to pass before a package can move from sid to testing. there's none of that in sid.

in general testing lags 2-5 days behind sid, which means 2-5 days of delay in potential fixes. i went through and did the whole testing with sid repo setup with pin priority and everything on a spare laptop and it's worked pretty well. "debian but kind of rolling" is imo the dream distro, and testing/sid are the closest you'll get. sid gets updates faster but will break some degree more often, testing gets updates slower but will break some degree less often. ubuntu actually snapshots testing when they do a new release. take that as you will

i hope you've enoyed my autistic little ted talk on debian testing

>>107719049
For packages like Firefox you're probably better off adding Mozilla's APT repository and just getting your fixes direct from them. They will always get all of the security updates patched and fixed quicker than any of the Linux distros because they fixes land in their code repository and their automations kick off before any Linux distro has even seen the patch.

>>107719049
>rely on upstream AND the maintainer
same as with the security team

>>107718113
Snaps are great and the spyware is in your head.

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I decided to give Wayland a fair chance but no matter what compositor I try my mouse cursor has noticable lag. What the fuck is this? This can't be normal.

>>107716370
The "power" to do everything I need on a router without going to autistic lengths to design and manage a rule chain topology myself.
ufw taking care of both IPv4 and IPv6 at the same time means that I need half the commands and half the rules to get the job done.

>>107719623
Are you using NVIDIA? I think that still uses a software cursor because of their shit drivers.

I have no issues with cursor lag on AMD.

>>107719636
You know NFtables can make a single rule that covers both families, right?
Ufw is just an abstraction over that.

>>107719641
I haven't used nvidia for years lol

>>107719623
I've never seen this cursor lag

>>107719716
Check mouse acceleration is off then, and also make sure your mouse DPI is configured properly to your liking in something like Piper.

>>107719623
if you're using multiple monitors, Waylel and 'lel compositors still shit themselves regularly

>>107719739
Why the fuck would those have anything to do with input lag? But yeah, no accel and DPI is just right.
It seems to be most pronounced with graphical applications like games running windowed, doesn't even seem to be the cursor only, that's just most noticable as it feels like jello.

>>107719764
I only have a single, normal-ass 60Hz monitor.

>>107719764
Wayland has better multi-monitor support than Xorg.

>>107719785
It might be an XWayland issue. Have you checked to see if xinput is messing with it?

>>107716749
linux mint works perfectly fine for gaming, dont waste your precious time distro hopping when you dont need it

>>107719843
I'm mostly trying SDL applications with SDL_VIDEO_DRIVER=wayland set explicitly, no xwayland here.

>>107719788
well I'm glad I "entered" Linux through mature-enough Waylel then
probably would've thought my GPUs were broken if X11 is worse

>>107719785
are you sure it's solid 60Hz?
I've also experienced frame drops and fuckery at off-60 like 59.??Hz modelines because it couldn't split render times or something
(inserting clean modelines is apparently also much more of a pain than X11)

>>107719871
That might be the issue then. A lot of games have really old versions of SDL so they're Wayland support is essentially broken. You'd want to manually replace their SDL libraries if you can, etc.

You should probably be using the X11 backend through XWayland.

>>107719882
M8, I'm trying open source games from my package manager here, they use system SDL3 or SDL2-compat.

>>107719876
>are you sure it's solid 60Hz?
How do I check?

>>107719896
And that's still not good enough. SDL upstream doesn't even default to Wayland yet. You really want to building all of this from the latest git sources, etc, to test this properly.

Bottom line is in a lot of cases SDL + Wayland is a no-go.

>>107719896
>How do I check?
https://www.vsynctester.com/

There's also tools like VRRTest if you don't want to rely on your (sometimes shit) web browser.
https://github.com/Nixola/VRRTest

>>107719899
Tell me an application that's a good test candidate then. It is most noticeable in the SDL games I tested but it's everywhere, even if I just move my cursor on an empty wallpaper.
I very much doubt SDL is at fault here but I'm trying to get it into your head that I'm already trying to exclude any potential other source of the issue here by not using Steam games with old-ass SDL running in xwayland.

>>107714837
another case of btrfs fag btfo

>>107719896
I think it was

wlr-randr

on the software side
and from my testing, trying to force feed res and Hz through either wlr-randr (or kanshi) is practically cosmetic without hard modeline timings that 'lel can only read if it's fed at the kernel level

>>107719940
According to wlr-randr screen only has fractional modelines lol
Interestingly it also has ~75Hz and adaptive sync, must have forgotten about that.
Feels slightly less bad at 75Hz I suppose.

Using Xfce4 along with plain window manager - how do I set my qt theme to match what I have in xfce4? I'm not sure if it has a specific theme but at least it's dark.
Qimgv for example, in my plain window manager is using light qt theme.
I tried setting some xdg related variables in .xprofile and such but it did not change anything.
I wouldn't want to install something extra because this already works in Xfce4 anyhow.

>>107719785
One thing what could cause lag is compositor issue and some buffering shit.
I'm just guessing.
I switched over to Bspwm and don't run even a compositor, it's so damn snappy because it doesn't need to draw any shitty gtk frames or anything.
Wayland always felt like it is triple buffered or some shit like that...

>>107719623
Same, I use Plasma and I tried switching to the Wayland session and scaling looked weird, which is funny because scaling is supposed to be one of wayland fortes over x11.

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>>107720136
Did you set legacy applications to scale themselves? The scaling where the server does it itself can be blurry because of the way it does the scaling. It's better for the toolkit to do it.

>>107720136
I had a strange issue with my mouse when I used Xfce4, everything else was fine except windows were somewhat laggy and mouse back button would double click.
After switching to a plain window manager that issue went away. Libinput settings are the same of course.
Even firefox/librewolf feels faster somehow.

>>107720234
Double clicking was occasional but frequent enough to be annoying.

>>107714837
Why don't people make a backup before doing things like this?

>>107720155
My issue didn't have anything to do with legacy apps, I use a 1440p ultrawide at 125% and on Wayland everything looked oversized, too big, the Plasma interface looked oversized, chromium looked oversized, then if I set the scaling back to 100% everthing looked smaller than on X11 at 125%.

is there a barebones SDDM theme that uses qt for a video background and a left aligned login panel?
i wanna be lazy and copy paste one that already works

>>107719049
Testing gets more testing than sid but takes longer to get updates compared to sid. Don't know what its like now but it used to take somewhere between a week to months for packages to go from sid into testing.

>>107719607
>the spyware is in your head
I almost took your post seriously until the last part
It's not like the spyware has been publicly documented or anything...

I'm beginning to learn Linux' terminal. How useful are all of those commands like say cat, less, wc etc.? I feel like at least the word processing commands are quite useless, maybe except grep.

>>107720586
less and more (what do you mean less is more, more is more)

>>107719647
>libc is just an abstraction over syscalls
>firefox is just an abstraction over internet sockets
According to your logic, there is no value in having convenience, we should all be bitbanging our way to this imageboard.

I'm starting to feel like choosing BTRFS was a mistake because of CoW.... For example VM disk images are using a CoW format by default in vm manager (QEMU KVM), which is problematic to stack on top of a BTRFS filesystem.....

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>>107720253
>make a backup before doing things like this
*always have multiple backups on multiple devices/mediums plus at least one offsite

>>107720646
And by problematic I mean that you simply have to be aware of stuff like this, if you aren't then your BTRFS volume is going to fragment badly over time... What else there is that I'm unaware of?

>>107720646
Its usually suggested to turn off COW for the directory that the vm disk images are stored in which can be done with chattr +C (or is it -C ?)
Bear in mind this will have no effect on already existing files only on newly crated files in that directory
Its also suggested to turn off COW for the directory that all your torrented linux ISOs are stored
Some distros might turn off COW for /var/lib/libvirt/images by default

>>107720696
I am creating an ubuntu server VM right now and chose RAW instead of QCOW2 for the disk image format and also I'm choosing EXT4 as filesystem for the VM. Shouldn't this be fine on top of BTRFS in a path that has CoW enabled (I have not disabled CoW anywhere)?

>>107720626
I actually found more more useful lol because it prints directly to the terminal and not in its own embedded window. Better for small files which I mostly work with.

>>107720723
If you don't need a pager you can just cat them

>>107719636
What's a rule chain topology? I just copy pasted a ruleset and adjusted it to my needs lmao. It's all very logical to me but my firewall is just a basic desktop one so idk what kind of wizardy could be done with it. Do you got things like port knocking?
>ufw taking care of both IPv4 and IPv6 at the same time means that I need half the commands and half the rules to get the job done
But the screenshot posted shows separate v4 and v6 rules??
>>107720631
Come on now.
>>107718130
Right. I've used them for like compiling stuff and that's mostly it.

>>107720715
As far as i know raw is better than qcow2 for cow filesystems but there's a lot of features you miss out from qcow2
A better idea would be to turn off COW for the directory your vms are in and format the filesystem in the vm as btrfs or whatever other cow filesystem
I don't think you really need copy on write for vm disk images anyway when the disk image itself can handle it on its own, guess what the COW in QCOW2 stands for.

Is there any area in which Debian is superior to Fedora?

I am asking because since a few months ago I started using the penguin OS, after having only used windows and falling into tinfoil hat rabbit holes.

I am now using debian on one laptop and fedora on the other one. It seems fedora has less problems making things work without that they suddenly stop working for no apparent reason.

Are both of them backdoored out the ass in more ways than we can comprehend or only fedora through SELinux?.

>>107720723
| is an extend
Read some archaic unix handbook
The 'usability' grows with your needs. Most normal users don't need that much, grep, awk etc.
Most of the documentation you read are from some turbo autists who don't care about usability or even about the fact how to teach other people.

>>107721018
I found apt easier to use than dnf, and I found it easier to update grub on debian based OS, but fedora was so smooth, and I wish I didn't have to use another OS just to get jellyfin working. I guess I could setup my unused desktop for jellyfin, but the processor is dated and I would have to do all my encoding on my main machine and then transfer. Just seems like a hassle.

>>107721018
>>Are both of them backdoored out the ass in more ways than we can comprehend or only fedora through SELinux?.
Your CPU is backdoored. It doesn't matter which OS you use

>>107721042
thanks for not answering my questions at all.

>>107721072
I am not sure about that, I specifically bought a computer with HAP disabled IME

>>107719623
that's normal for wayland, yes.

>>107721083
don't expect the get a reply from the person I quoted, it's 4chan after all

>>107721078
You're welcome

>>107721018
>Is there any area in which Debian is superior to Fedora?
yes, in being old as fuck
>without that they suddenly stop working for no apparent reason
that shouldn't be the case on any distro
>Are both of them backdoored out the ass in more ways than we can comprehend or only fedora through SELinux?
You have so no fucking clue what you're talking about I'll just give you the tl;dr: Nope

>>107721018
>backdoored fedora through SELinux
wut

>>107719623
Software cursor like other Anon said. GPU driver issue.

>>107721032
>Read some archaic unix handbook
I'm reading "The Linux Command Line", because it's free and for beginners.

Anyone have experience running Trisquel for at least 2 months? How was it and did it feel like security swiss cheese

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>>107715429
>metalheart
>>107718239
neat, i was looking into more of these styles for all my machines.
there was a thread on /t/ with bunch of them
https://archived.moe/wg/thread/8117874/

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>software is available for RHEL 10.1 and 9.7
>want to bootstrap a container for it
What distribution am I supposed to use? The actual Red Hat Enterprise Linux? Do they even hand out rootfstarballs? Ideally I'd take one of those instead of the

dnf --installroot blah

>>107721627
Sign-up for a RHEL account and you can use a copy in test, for FREE, with access to the repos.

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>>107721018
not a question of which is better, is one of which one best suits your needs, retard.
apt is faster and has more software, debian doesnt babysit you like fedora and its lts/stable nature is a great differential.
fedora is a bit more secure ootb and babysits you more, you get newer/tested software every day and everything works inside of a faster realese cycle.

pick your poison or choose the one you feel more comfortable with.

>www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
>www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html
Just how important is it to use a "free" linux distro?

>>107721693
Depends on you and depends with how much bullshit you can take from companies before you go tell them to fuck off.

>>107721693
Grow up.

>>107721693
What exactly are you doing with your computer? If you want to make a political statement it's very important, but if you're just trying to use your computer it is not gonna help you at all.

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>>107721704
Without those companies you can't use any pc.

>>107721766
I don't know what you're talking about, I built mine out of bamboo and raw iron I dug up from my backyard.

>>107721693
Holy autism, that's why no one takes ganno seriously.

>>107721742
I just don't want to go with free and then something stops working because
>whoops sorry but some of your components only use our very own ~proprietary drivers~ so it won't work without them teehee

>>107721868
If you go with free, I doubt those things you fear will stop working ever worked in the first place. Free includes no proprietary drivers.
If only a proprietary driver exists for something, it doesn't work. Simple as.

>>107721742
Debatable. I can use my pc just fine without any proprietary stuff.
FLAC and x264 is all you need in terms of codecs.

>>107721693
BASED FSF

>>107721948
unbased, since they're hypocrites.
"It's fine if it's on a rom'

>>107721868
just dont buy ngreedia bro, its not that hard.

>>107721904
how are you using your hardware without its firmware? Codecs is something you can live without, your damn mainboard and cpu on the other hand, yeah, without them you have no pc.

>>107721972
>ngreedia
I thought we all agreed it's NIGVIDIA now?

>>107721904
Most of the streaming platforms like Youtube have switched to AV1. So on many laptops the fan will spin up during playback because there is no power efficient hardware decoding.

>>107721973
Thinkpad T400 with X9100 core 2 duo and libreboot.