as a fan, this is a pretty disappointing post. The man who died has caused so much harm by spreading misinformation, racism, and homo/transphobic ideologies that you can’t simply sit on the fence. It just isn’t worth having sympathy for someone who didn’t have it for anyone else
SimpleFlips
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Whatever your personal beliefs, political beliefs, world views, moral positions... Irrelevant. What has happened today is sad, sickening, and scary. These words should be true regardless of your beliefs. Conversation and differing opinions, LISTENING and UNDERSTANDING, and being given the freedom to choose your own beliefs is as equally important as the freedom to speak your own beliefs. The cornerstone of human growth is being presented with new information and ideas which then every individual gets to decide what they choose to believe in. Today someone died for spreading their beliefs, when the appropriate and opposite reactions to combat this should always be more conversation. Rhetoric that opposes your beliefs doesn't disappear when the man who speaks them dies.
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If a different public spokesperson with all of the opposite beliefs of him was murdered, the exact same principles would still be true. There would be someone else saying exactly what you're saying, and truly believe that the person deserved no sympathy as well. Both of these spokespeople could be advocating for ideologies that large groups of people disagree with, and the take that "it isn't worth having sympathy" to me is disagreeable. To each their own

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(1/?)I get this to an extent, but you have to realize that someone on the other side isn’t advocating for the death of a nation, or the deaths of trans people. You cannot fence sit when the opposition is clearly in the wrong.
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(2/2) it’s good to be the type of person to call out both sides when they are being malicious, but it’s unarguable that one side has been causing a lot of harm to a lot of subset groups, I think the right thing to do is point out where both are causing harm (such as Palestine)
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Mr. Simple. Sympathizing with a father and husband who got murdered for his political beliefs is never wrong. These people are insane and want the death penalty for thought crimes. Have no doubt that what you are thinking is reasonable and normal. Stay safe. ~E-Slop
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when your political beliefs are 1950s era fascism then yes you can absolutely be wrong for mourning someone like that. I agree his thinking is reasonable but there is a bigger picture here I think you’re both missing.
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I'm not knowledgeable on whom this person was or what he stood for. But it's crazy to think people would be disappointed in you for not revelling in the murder of someone they dislike. So inhuman these people.
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“I’m not knowledgeable on whom this was” maybe you should be before trying to defend someone like this.
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You should never have to compromise with people like this who have no common sense or understanding of the values of Life. It's truly sickening to see how many people are absolutely vile and relish in the fact they're holding "some kind of justice".
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do you genuinely believe that he was doing good in the world by constantly harassing and blaming minorities? He was literally blaming “gang violence” on shootings when he died, which is a racist rhetoric.
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Meeting speech with violence will always be the wrong answer, no matter how much you disagree with the speech. Those who can't or won't acknowledge that, I struggle to call human.
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I agree with you in that violence was not the right answer, but it was the answer someone chose.
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Fence sitting is such a dumb metaphor to use, pointing out that both sides deserve sympathy is not fence sitting, being able to sympathize with someone even if your beliefs don't align is a respectable trait to have and one many people need to learn no matter the side they choose
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it’s fence sitting when what your sympathizing with is white supremacy, sexism, racism, and fascism. If this wasn’t such an extreme case I would agree with you but this dude really was not worth it in any sense.
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simple im going to be so real this man wanted me and my ilk gone i can't really think any sympathy i give would be shared back
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im going to be 100% real with you. this is a bad take. it's bad that he died but i cannot give my sympathies to him bc of the fact that he called for the removal of my & my friend's rights. and i dont think im being unreasonable for thinking that
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@Simpleflips dead or not .. why is the line crossed when things happen to him ? What about the normal families , children, and Trans people who are affected by this type of violence ? This post should've been made every time a shooting happens, not when a hateful man Dies .
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where was this noise from you when the types of people he led and gathered a following under mocked trans suicides? or whenever they mocked rapes? or when he and his flock constantly made the lives of marginalized people a living hell? as a long time viewer this is sad to see.
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Listen simple, your sentiment does not fall flat, it's inoffensive to say he did not deserve to die, no one does, but to ignore the negative impact, hateful rhetoric and direct influence on policy, officials and legislature to call it differing viewpoints is disengenuos.
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Just feels like we keep making excuses for the evil instead of trying to make a better world . Smh
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This really isn’t the right take. This is a man inciting violence on people, he got what he deserved.
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