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हिन्दीBest of Ranged PvP General
* This ranking is for Main Generals.
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– Assistant Generals Ranking (Ranged)
– Generals Combination Recommendation
– Generals Combination Compatibility List
12/19/2025 – Refreshed General Buff values to Lv 50 stats.
12/19/2025 – Changed ranking evaluation criteria.
9/26/2025 – Added Ahmose I with Skin.
8/22/2025 – Added Hatshepsut, Ahmose I.
5/30/2025 – Added Artemisia I.
4/18/2025 – Added James Cook.
3/7/2025 – Added Brian Boru.
12/27/2024 – Added Franz Joseph I.
10/31/2024 – Added Algernon Sidney.
9/20/2024 – Added Tachibana Ginchiyo.
7/26/2024 – Added Ragnar & Sigurd.
5/17/2024 – Added Merlin.
3/31/2024 – added idunn.
3/26/2024 – “Covenant” buff was applied and the entire ranking was updated.
3/22/2024 – added Godfrey of Bouillon.
12/29/2023 – added Marcus Agrippa.
11/17/2023 – added Louis IX.
10/25/2023 – added Maarten Tromp.
9/29/2023 – added Mihai.
7/21/2023 – added Subutai.
5/12/2023 – Section B, “for Reinforce (to ally’s castle) / Wall Defender,” was completely revamped and detailed tables were added.
4/28/2023 – added Eleanor, Douglas.
2/3/2023 – added Charles XII.
12/30/2022 – added Mason Weaver.
12/16/2022 – added Edward III.
11/15/2022 – Since the difficulty of obtaining and developing generals has decreased more than before, the division between “pay no money” & “pay a lot of money” was abolished. 9/25/2022 – added Wallenstein.
8/21/2022 – added Toyotomi Hideyori. (Added to the table only, as it is outside the ranking)
7/28/2022 – Section B-1: Minamoto & Gwanggaeto are updated to Star Level 10
7/16/2022 – Section B-1 now supports Star Level 10. Buff values detailed.
4/7/2022 – Added Harald III
2/24/2022 – Added Elizabeth I
1/13/2022 – Added Henry V
11/17/2021 – Added Thutmose III
11/4/2021– Added Gnarr. / For ver4 update, Elektra & Minamoto’s requirement changed “pasture dragon” to “any dragon”.
9/13/2021 – Added generals that are now available in relics in “pay no money” section.
9/12/2021 – Added a note about unranked generals in “pay a lot of money” section, and added Edward the Black Prince.
8/4/2021 – Added Winfield Scott.
8/1/202 – Added the case of heavy charges & troop formation of “Ranged + Siege”. / Added rankings for reinforcements.
7/30/2021 – Changed the assumptions of the “pay no money” case / Added Tomyris / Changed all generals’ stats when using Lv4 skillbook.
The following rankings are based on my personal opinion when the troop formation is specialized in ranged troops.
Example of troop formation – more than 90% ranged troops / less than 10% other troops / all troops are layered
Assumptions
- Generals – All
- Generals Lv – 50
- Specialty – Maximize all 4. (Reference: Specialty Guide)
- Star level – 10 (Awakened)
- Covenant – Maximize all.
Evaluation Criteria
I calculated the following 3 types of evaluation scores.
- Evaluation 1: Damage
- Calculated by adding the buff values of Attack and March Size.
- The March Size buff value is multiplied by five (x5) before being added.
- (Why x5 will be explained later.)
- Evaluation 2: Evaluation 1 + Defense + HP
- Calculated by adding the buff values of Defense and HP to the Evaluation 1 score.
- Evaluation 3: Evaluation 2 + Debuff
- Only if it has a debuff.
- For an All Types of Troop Debuff, the debuff value is multiplied by four (x4) before being added.
The ranking is ordered by Evaluation Score 3.
If you would like to know the ranks for Evaluation Score 1 or Evaluation Score 2, please refer to the table below, where the table can be sorted accordingly.
Why x5 ? (Additional note regarding evaluation 1)
Reason: After applying various values to the damage calculation formula, this effect was roughly equivalent to an attack buff.
(March Size +10% provides roughly a +50% attack buff damage increase effect)
However, please note that this multiplier of five does not apply as a universal rule under all circumstances.
The relationship between March Size Buff (%) and Attack Buff (%) cannot typically be expressed as a simple multiplier like “multiplying March Size Buff (%) by a certain factor equals Attack Buff (%)”.
However, I determined that under specific conditions, it might be possible to simplify the multiplier to some extent.
As of November 2025, the maximum attack buff from a fully-developed general is around +500%. Under these conditions, the result was approximately a 5x multiplier.
If this attack buff standard changes, the results would be as follows:
- If it is +1,000%… approximately 8.5 times (x8.5)
- If it is +800%… approximately 7 times (x7)
- If it is +100%… approximately 1.5 times (x1.5)
Since general’s buffs continue to increase steadily, this multiplier will likely rise gradually in the future.
2 types of rankings
Some buffs that each general has are not valid if they are used as reinforcements to an ally’s castle or if they are made defenders of their own castle. (For more information: Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide)
In other words, some generals have “march/rally and “Reinforcements (to an ally’s castle)/Defenders” have very different performances.
For this reason, the ranking is divided between these 2 types.
Buffs by Skillbook
Basically, it is assumed that by using an assistant, the following 6 types are attached.
Attack, Defense, HP, Range, March size, March Speed (Lv4 for each).
In other words, it is basically assumed that there will be no difference depending on the skill book.
However, if a general has a skill book that cannot be added, it is excluded from the buff value.
A) for March & Rally
Overall Rating
For marching and rallying, I recommend Hatshepsut, Charles VI.
Next, Artemisia I.
Special mention: Charles VI
If Attack and March size are your absolute top priorities, it’s roughly on par with or slightly inferior to other top-tier options.
If Defense and HP are your top priorities, it’s the clear top choice.
Special mention: Rumyantsev
While quite capable, reaching Red Star 5 requires spending over $10,000 (as of 12/19/2025), so he is not recommended for most players.
Special mention: Ahmose I
He is quite good, but I would recommend making him assistants rather than main generals. He is difficult to obtain and very difficult to make red stars.
Special mention: Gonzalo
Unlike the higher-ranked generals, the fact that he is not weakened at all when reinforcing an ally’s castle is a big advantage.
1. Charles VI
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Rally Capacity | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 265.4 | 254.6 | 263 | – | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 135 | 130 | 125 | 10 | 0 | – |
| Specialty | 75 | 60 | 60 | 0 | 0 | – |
| Skin | – | – | – | – | – | – |
| Covenant | 20 | 10 | 15 | 8 | 0 | – |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – | – |
| Total | 520.4 | 479.6 | 488 | 30 | 0 | – |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 670.4
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1638
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1638
Ranked 1st, but with somewhat idiosyncratic performance.
Damage output (attack and march size) is relatively low.
However, defense and HP are exceptionally high.
If damage output is your top priority, it’s better to choose another general.
When Reinforcements:
Although quite powerful when marching or rallying, it is much weaker when reinforcing an ally’s keep. (See Section B of this article for details.)
When Assistant:
Quite good when marching.
Weakens considerably when reinforcing an ally’s keep. ( Buff value details and ranking )
2. Rumyantsev
This rank is provisional.
(I am checking the possibility of using the skill book. (Attack, Defense, HP))
If you know of any, please let me know in the comments section with a screenshot.
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Rally Capacity | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 283.8 | 260.2 | 263.4 | – | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 145 | 85 | 120 | 8 | 10 | – |
| Specialty | 80 | 60 | 20 | 6 | 5 | – |
| Skin | – | – | – | – | – | – |
| Covenant | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 5 | – |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – | – |
| Total | 543.8 | 440.2 | 438.4 | 36 | 20 | – |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 723.8
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1602.4
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1602.4
For players who spend heavily enough to play in All-Star and are rally setters.
As of 2025/12/19, reaching Red Star 5 requires easily over $10,000.
A notable feature is possessing a Rally Capacity buff, something few recent Generals have.
Other performance stats are only slightly better than Hatshepsut’s, with no dramatic difference.
Therefore, it will likely be out of consideration for the vast majority of players.
3. Hatshepsut
With Skin
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Rally Capacity | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 255.8 | 258 | 267 | – | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 130 | 85 | 70 | 14 | 0 | – |
| Specialty | 85 | 60 | 50 | 6 | 0 | – |
| Skin | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | When joining rally, Ground HP -5% Mounted HP -5% |
| Covenant | 20 | 15 | 10 | 5 | 0 | – |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – | – |
| Total | 523.8 | 443 | 422 | 37 | 0 | When joining rally, Ground HP -5% Mounted HP -5% |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 708.8
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1573.8
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1573.8
Its defining feature is a very large March size.
Thanks to this, despite its relatively low attack, its damage output is not bad.
When reinforcing:
She is quite powerful during marching and rallying, but becomes significantly weakened when reinforcing allies’ castles (See Section B for details.).
As an Assistant:
Good when marching.
Weakens when reinforcing an ally’s keep.
( Buff value details and ranking )
Without Skin
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Rally Capacity | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 255.8 | 258 | 267 | – | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 130 | 85 | 70 | 14 | 0 | – |
| Specialty | 85 | 60 | 50 | 6 | 0 | – |
| Skin | – | – | – | – | – | – |
| Covenant | 20 | 15 | 10 | 5 | 0 | – |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – | – |
| Total | 515.8 | 443 | 422 | 37 | 0 | – |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 700.8
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1565.8
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1565.8
4. Ahmose I
With Skin
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Rally Capacity | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 262.4 | 256.8 | 258 | – | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 120 | 105 | 85 | 5 | 0 | – |
| Specialty | 85 | 10 | 55 | 10 | 0 | – |
| Skin | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Mounted Def -10% |
| Covenant | 25 | 15 | 10 | 8 | 0 | – |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – | – |
| Total | 525.4 | 411.8 | 433 | 35 | 0 | Mounted Def -10% |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 700.4
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1545.2
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1555.2
Basic buff type generals.
When marching, a basic buff type general usually performs less well than a marching buff type general. However, unusually for a basic buff type, his performance is very high. (As of 2025/8)
In addition, unusually for a basic buff type, he can be attached an attack skill book.
Unlike the marching buff type, he has a great advantage in that it is almost never weakened when it is used to reinforce an ally’s castle.
However, since he is extremely difficult to obtain, the difficulty level to attain 5 red stars is very high. (Limited to exclusive events & requires lots of money)
Without Skin
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Rally Capacity | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 262.4 | 256.8 | 258 | – | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 120 | 105 | 85 | 5 | 0 | – |
| Specialty | 85 | 10 | 55 | 10 | 0 | – |
| Skin | – | – | – | – | – | – |
| Covenant | 25 | 15 | 10 | 8 | 0 | – |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – | – |
| Total | 517.4 | 411.8 | 433 | 35 | 0 | – |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 692.4
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1537.2
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1537.2
5. Artemisia I
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Rally Capacity | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 286.2 | 256.8 | 255.8 | – | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 130 | 95 | 100 | 10 | 8 | – |
| Specialty | 80 | 40 | 50 | 0 | 0 | – |
| Skin | – | – | – | – | – | – |
| Covenant | 15 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 0 | – |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – | – |
| Total | 536.2 | 426.8 | 440.8 | 30 | 8 | – |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 686.2
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1553.8
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1553.8
Attack is high, but the march size is relatively small.
Therefore, the damage output isn’t “dramatically high”.
When reinforcing:
He is quite powerful during marching and rallying, but becomes significantly weakened when reinforcing allies’ castles (See Section B for details.)..
Table (All ranged generals / Marching)
Rank | Generals | Buff Type | ATK | DEF | HP | March Size | Rally Capacity | Debuff | Debuff Score | Skill Book Limit | Covenant | Score1: A+MS*5 | Scoree2: +D+H | Score3: +Debuff |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Charles VI | March | 520.4 | 479.6 | 488 | 30 | 0 | – | – | Included | 670.4 | 1638 | 1638 | |
| 2 | Rumyantsev | March | 543.8 | 440.2 | 438.4 | 36 | 20 | – | – | Included | 723.8 | 1602.4 | 1602.4 | |
| 3 | Hatshepsut (+Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 523.8 | 443 | 422 | 37 | 0 | When joining rally, Ground HP -5% Mounted HP -5% | 0 | – | Included | 708.8 | 1573.8 | 1573.8 |
| 4 | Hatshepsut (No Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 515.8 | 443 | 422 | 37 | 0 | – | – | Included | 700.8 | 1565.8 | 1565.8 | |
| 5 | Ahmose I (+Skin) | Basic | 525.4 | 411.8 | 433 | 35 | 0 | Mounted Def -10% | 10 | – | Included | 700.4 | 1545.2 | 1555.2 |
| 6 | Artemisia I | March | 536.2 | 426.8 | 440.8 | 30 | 8 | – | – | Included | 686.2 | 1553.8 | 1553.8 | |
| 7 | Ahmose I (No Skin) | Basic | 517.4 | 411.8 | 433 | 35 | 0 | – | – | Included | 692.4 | 1537.2 | 1537.2 | |
| 8 | Algernon Sidney | March | 510.8 | 370.6 | 407.4 | 44 | 0 | – | – | Included | 730.8 | 1508.8 | 1508.8 | |
| 9 | Brian Boru (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 496.8 | 430.4 | 461 | 22 | 0 | – | – | Included | 606.8 | 1498.2 | 1498.2 | |
| 10 | Gonzalo | Basic | 504.2 | 407.8 | 442.2 | 26 | 0 | – | – | Included | 634.2 | 1484.2 | 1484.2 | |
| 11 | Ragnar (+Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 500.2 | 409 | 406.2 | 26 | 0 | Ground Def -10% Mounted Def -10% | 20 | – | Included | 630.2 | 1445.4 | 1465.4 |
| 12 | Sigurd (+Skin) | Basic | 471.8 | 410.8 | 402 | 30 | 0 | Mounted Defense -10% Ground HP -10% Mounted HP -10% | 30 | – | Included | 621.8 | 1434.6 | 1464.6 |
| 13 | Franz Joseph I | Basic | 434.6 | 441.4 | 409.8 | 34 | 0 | – | can’t attach Atk | Included | 604.6 | 1455.8 | 1455.8 | |
| 14 | Ragnar (No Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 490.2 | 409 | 406.2 | 26 | 0 | – | – | Included | 620.2 | 1435.4 | 1435.4 | |
| 15 | Sigurd (No Skin) | Basic | 471.8 | 400.8 | 402 | 30 | 0 | Mounted Defense -10% | 10 | – | Included | 621.8 | 1424.6 | 1434.6 |
| 16 | James Cook | Basic | 472 | 391.2 | 417.4 | 30 | 0 | – | can’t attach Atk | Included | 622 | 1430.6 | 1430.6 | |
| 17 | Merlin | March | 472.4 | 432.8 | 419.2 | 17 | 0 | – | – | Included | 557.4 | 1409.4 | 1409.4 | |
| 18 | Douglas (+Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 446 | 394.2 | 361.4 | 28 | 0 | Ground Def -20% Mounted Def -20% | 40 | – | – | 586 | 1341.6 | 1381.6 |
| 19 | Marcus Agrippa | March | 463.2 | 443.4 | 365.6 | 20 | 0 | – | – | Included | 563.2 | 1372.2 | 1372.2 | |
| 20 | Tachibana Ginchiyo | Basic | 411.6 | 416.4 | 433.6 | 20 | 0 | – | can’t attach Atk | Included | 511.6 | 1361.6 | 1361.6 | |
| 21 | Maarten Tromp (at SvS) | March | 455.6 | 412.4 | 353.2 | 27 | 0 | – | – | – | 590.6 | 1356.2 | 1356.2 | |
| 22 | Godfrey of Bouillon | Basic | 419.8 | 383.8 | 403.4 | 28 | 0 | – | – | Included | 559.8 | 1347 | 1347 | |
| 23 | James Conrad | March | 398.2 | 382.8 | 407.4 | 22 | 0 | All type Def -10% | 40 | – | – | 508.2 | 1298.4 | 1338.4 |
| 24 | Mihai | March | 449.6 | 429.6 | 348.6 | 22 | 0 | – | – | – | 559.6 | 1337.8 | 1337.8 | |
| 25 | Douglas (No Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 436 | 394.2 | 361.4 | 28 | 0 | – | – | – | 576 | 1331.6 | 1331.6 | |
| 26 | Charles XII | March | 422.2 | 405.4 | 327.4 | 28 | 0 | – | – | – | 562.2 | 1295 | 1295 | |
| 27 | Princess Kaguya | March | 399 | 346.6 | 360.4 | 32 | 0 | – | – | – | 559 | 1266 | 1266 | |
| 28 | Subutai | Basic | 403.6 | 397.4 | 328 | 26 | 0 | – | can’t attach Atk | – | 533.6 | 1259 | 1259 | |
| 29 | Louis IX | Basic | 414.4 | 408.6 | 334.4 | 18 | 6 | – | can’t attach Atk | – | 504.4 | 1247.4 | 1247.4 | |
| 30 | Maarten Tromp | March | 420.6 | 367.4 | 328.2 | 22 | 0 | – | – | – | 530.6 | 1226.2 | 1226.2 | |
| 31 | Tomyris | March | 395 | 323 | 374.4 | 26 | 10 | – | – | – | 525 | 1222.4 | 1222.4 | |
| 32 | Elektra (+Skin 2) (+Dragon) | March | 434.2 | 340 | 308.2 | 28 | 0 | – | – | – | 574.2 | 1222.4 | 1222.4 | |
| 33 | Elektra (+Skin 1) (+Dragon) | March | 419.2 | 340 | 323.2 | 28 | 0 | – | – | – | 559.2 | 1222.4 | 1222.4 | |
| 34 | Vladimir the Great | Basic | 331.6 | 307.2 | 319.4 | 28 | 0 | All type Atk -25% Ground HP -10% Mounted HP -10% | 120 | – | – | 471.6 | 1098.2 | 1218.2 |
| 35 | Eleanor | March | 416.2 | 369.2 | 315.8 | 22 | 8 | – | – | – | 526.2 | 1211.2 | 1211.2 | |
| 36 | Toyotomi Hideyori | Basic | 373.2 | 335.4 | 348.2 | 22 | 0 | All type Atk -10% | 40 | – | – | 483.2 | 1166.8 | 1206.8 |
| 37 | Idunn | Outcity Def | 391.2 | 322.4 | 348.4 | 28 | 0 | – | – | – | 531.2 | 1202 | 1202 | |
| 38 | Elektra (No Skin) (+Dragon) | March | 409.2 | 340 | 308.2 | 28 | 0 | – | – | – | 549.2 | 1197.4 | 1197.4 | |
| 39 | Wallenstein | March | 413.2 | 314.6 | 339.2 | 26 | 15 | – | – | – | 543.2 | 1197 | 1197 | |
| 40 | Edward III | Basic | 416 | 335.6 | 348.6 | 18 | 0 | – | – | – | 506 | 1190.2 | 1190.2 | |
| 41 | Simeon the Great (+Dragon) | March | 413.8 | 336.8 | 340.2 | 18 | 8 | – | – | – | 503.8 | 1180.8 | 1180.8 | |
| 42 | Elizabeth I | Basic | 350.2 | 318.2 | 310.8 | 32 | 0 | Ranged Atk -40% | 40 | – | – | 510.2 | 1139.2 | 1179.2 |
| 43 | Edward the Black Prince | Basic | 347.2 | 293.4 | 331.6 | 22 | 0 | Mounted Atk -20% Mounted Def -15% Mounted HP-20% All type HP -10% | 95 | can’t attach Atk | – | 457.2 | 1082.2 | 1177.2 |
| 44 | Winfield Scott | Basic | 391.2 | 314.8 | 306.6 | 32 | 0 | – | – | – | 551.2 | 1172.6 | 1172.6 | |
| 45 | Li Shimin | Basic | 373.2 | 307.6 | 342.4 | 28 | 6 | – | March Size can attach Lv4 only | – | 513.2 | 1163.2 | 1163.2 | |
| 46 | Mason Weaver (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | Basic | 401.6 | 345.2 | 349.8 | 12 | 0 | – | – | – | 461.6 | 1156.6 | 1156.6 | |
| 47 | Thutmose III | March | 398.4 | 328.4 | 298.6 | 26 | 0 | – | – | – | 528.4 | 1155.4 | 1155.4 | |
| 48 | Himiko | Basic | 329.8 | 310 | 325.6 | 12 | 6 | Ranged Atk -26% Mounted Atk -51% All type Atk -10% | 117 | – | – | 389.8 | 1025.4 | 1142.4 |
| 49 | Alfred the Great | March | 398 | 324.4 | 328.6 | 18 | 8 | – | – | – | 488 | 1141 | 1141 | |
| 50 | Gwanggaeto the Great | Basic | 349.8 | 317.8 | 319.6 | 28 | 0 | – | – | – | 489.8 | 1127.2 | 1127.2 | |
| 51 | Gnarr | March | 375.4 | 302.8 | 316.8 | 26 | 0 | – | – | – | 505.4 | 1125 | 1125 | |
| 52 | Minamoto no Yoshitsune (+Dragon) | Basic | 391 | 312.2 | 337.6 | 12 | 6 | – | can’t attach Atk | – | 451 | 1100.8 | 1100.8 | |
| 53 | Cyrus the Great | March | 335 | 294 | 307.4 | 32 | 0 | – | – | – | 495 | 1096.4 | 1096.4 | |
| 54 | Jumong | Basic | 312 | 323.6 | 308.6 | 22 | 0 | All type HP -10% | 40 | can’t attach Atk | – | 422 | 1054.2 | 1094.2 |
| 55 | Henry V | Basic | 370.2 | 333.6 | 323.2 | 12 | 8 | – | can’t attach Atk | – | 430.2 | 1087 | 1087 | |
| 56 | Gustavus Adolphus | Basic | 345.8 | 265.8 | 301 | 22 | 0 | Ranged Def & HP -15% Siege Def & HP -15% | 60 | – | – | 455.8 | 1022.6 | 1082.6 |
| 57 | Harald III | Basic | 345.4 | 307.8 | 310.2 | 12 | 8 | All type Atk -10% | 40 | can’t attach Atk | – | 405.4 | 1023.4 | 1063.4 |
| 58 | Matthias I | March | 363.4 | 305.4 | 300.6 | 17 | 8 | – | – | – | 448.4 | 1054.4 | 1054.4 |
B) for Reinforce (to ally’s castle) / Wall Defender
When reinforcing an alliance member’s city or when you make generals a wall defender, Marching Buff (“when General is leading the army to attack” buff) is disabled.
(See this article for details: Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide)
NOTE: When a reinforcement to “Building”, the “marching buff” is enabled. See section A.
Overall Rating
Recommendations for Reinforce to alliance member’s city or Wall Defender ( dual role with attacker) are Idunn, Gonzalo.
(However, idunn is not recommended if you are also using her as an attacker or wall defender.)
Then Franz Joseph I, James Cook.
Ahmose I and Sigurd are quite good, but I would recommend making him assistants rather than main generals. They are difficult to obtain and very difficult to make red stars.
1. Idunn
As Outcity Defender
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 266.2 | 262.4 | 258.4 | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 140 | 125 | 105 | 10 | – |
| Specialty | 55 | 65 | 70 | 6 | – |
| Skin | – | – | – | – | – |
| Covenant | |||||
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – |
| Total | 486.2 | 477.4 | 458.4 | 28 | – |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 626.2
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1562
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1562
She has an unusual buff called the Outcity Defense Buff (details), which significantly enhances her performance only when she is reinforcing an allied member’s castle or defending a building.
She is greatly weakened when defending your own castle or when attacking.
(For buff values during attacks, see the list in Section A: for March/Rally.)
As Wall Defender
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 266.2 | 262.4 | 258.4 | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 80 | 15 | 45 | 0 | – |
| Specialty | 10 | 20 | 20 | – | |
| Skin | – | – | – | – | – |
| Covenant | |||||
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 0 | – |
| Total | 381.2 | 322.4 | 348.4 | 0 | – |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 381.2
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1052
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1052
When she is a wall defender, she is very weak because he loses most of her buffs.
2. Ahmose I
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 262.4 | 256.8 | 258 | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 120 | 105 | 85 | 5 | – |
| Specialty | 85 | 10 | 55 | 10 | – |
| Skin | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Mounted Def -10% |
| Covenant | 15 | 15 | 10 | 8 | – |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – |
| Total | 515.4 | 411.8 | 433 | 35 | Mounted Def -10% |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 690.4
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1535.2
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1545.2
Since his skills and specialties are almost always basic buffs, he is almost never weakened.
3. Gonzalo
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 259.2 | 257.8 | 262.2 | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 120 | 65 | 85 | 8 | – |
| Specialty | 80 | 50 | 60 | 0 | – |
| Skin | – | – | – | – | – |
| Covenant | 30 | 10 | 10 | 6 | – |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – |
| Total | 514.2 | 407.8 | 442.2 | 26 | – |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 644.2
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1494.2
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1494.2
Since all skills and specialties are basic buffs, he is not weakened at all.
4. Sigurd
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 263.8 | 267.8 | 254 | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 103 | 48 | 63 | 10 | – |
| Specialty | 70 | 50 | 50 | 0 | – |
| Skin | – | 10 | – | – | Ground HP -10% Mounted HP -10% |
| Covenant | 10 | 10 | 10 | 8 | Mounted Defense -10% |
| Skillbook | 25 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – |
| Total | 471.8 | 410.8 | 402 | 30 | Mounted Defense -10% Ground HP -10% Mounted HP -10% |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 621.8
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1434.6
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1464.6
Since all skills and specialties are basic buffs, he is not weakened at all.
5. Franz Joseph I
Ranged Buff (%)
| Atk | Def | HP | March Size | Debuff | |
| by Stats (Lv50 / 5 Red Star / Cultivate +500) | 269.6 | 266.4 | 264.8 | – | – |
| Skill (Awakened) | 90 | 90 | 70 | 8 | – |
| Specialty | 60 | 50 | 40 | 6 | – |
| Skin | – | – | – | – | – |
| Covenant | 10 | 10 | 20 | 8 | – |
| Skillbook | 0 | 25 | 25 | 12 | – |
| Total | 429.6 | 441.4 | 419.8 | 34 | – |
- Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 599.6
- Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1460.8
- Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1460.8
Since his skills and specialties are almost always basic buffs, he is almost never weakened.
Table (All ranged generals / Reinforcing)
Rank | Generals | Buff Type | ATK | DEF | HP | March Size | Debuff | Debuff Score | Skillbook Limit | Covenant | Score1: A+MS*5 | Score2: +D+H | Score3: +Debuff |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Idunn | Outcity Def | 486.2 | 477.4 | 458.4 | 28 | – | – | – | 626.2 | 1562 | 1562 | |
| 2 | Ahmose I (+Skin) | Basic | 515.4 | 411.8 | 433 | 35 | Mounted Def -10% | 10 | – | Included | 690.4 | 1535.2 | 1545.2 |
| 3 | Ahmose I (No Skin) | Basic | 507.4 | 411.8 | 433 | 35 | – | – | Included | 682.4 | 1527.2 | 1527.2 | |
| 4 | Gonzalo | Basic | 514.2 | 407.8 | 442.2 | 26 | – | – | Included | 644.2 | 1494.2 | 1494.2 | |
| 5 | Sigurd (+Skin) | Basic | 471.8 | 410.8 | 402 | 30 | Mounted Defense -10% Ground HP -10% Mounted HP -10% | 30 | – | Included | 621.8 | 1434.6 | 1464.6 |
| 6 | Franz Joseph I | Basic | 429.6 | 441.4 | 419.8 | 34 | – | can’t attach Atk | Included | 599.6 | 1460.8 | 1460.8 | |
| 7 | Sigurd (No Skin) | Basic | 471.8 | 400.8 | 402 | 30 | Mounted Defense -10% | 10 | – | Included | 621.8 | 1424.6 | 1434.6 |
| 8 | James Cook | Basic | 472 | 391.2 | 417.4 | 30 | – | can’t attach Atk | Included | 622 | 1430.6 | 1430.6 | |
| 9 | Tachibana Ginchiyo | Basic | 416.6 | 421.4 | 433.6 | 20 | – | can’t attach Atk | Included | 516.6 | 1371.6 | 1371.6 | |
| 10 | Godfrey of Bouillon (as Reinforce) | Basic | 414.8 | 388.8 | 413.4 | 28 | – | – | Included | 554.8 | 1357 | 1357 | |
| 11 | Godfrey of Bouillon (as Walls Defender) | Basic | 434.8 | 403.8 | 413.4 | – | – | – | Included | 434.8 | 1252 | 1252 | |
| 12 | Subutai | Basic | 393.6 | 397.4 | 328 | 26 | – | can’t attach Atk | – | 523.6 | 1249 | 1249 | |
| 13 | Louis IX | Basic | 404.4 | 408.6 | 334.4 | 18 | – | can’t attach Atk | – | 494.4 | 1237.4 | 1237.4 | |
| 14 | Vladimir the Great | Basic | 321.6 | 307.2 | 319.4 | 28 | All type Atk -25% Ground HP -10% Mounted HP -10% | 120 | – | – | 461.6 | 1088.2 | 1208.2 |
| 15 | Toyotomi Hideyori | Basic | 373.2 | 335.4 | 348.2 | 22 | All type Atk -10% | 40 | – | – | 483.2 | 1166.8 | 1206.8 |
| 16 | Algernon Sidney | March | 380.8 | 280.6 | 317.4 | 44 | – | – | Included | 600.8 | 1198.8 | 1198.8 | |
| 17 | Edward III | Basic | 416 | 335.6 | 348.6 | 18 | – | – | – | 506 | 1190.2 | 1190.2 | |
| 18 | Elizabeth I | Basic | 350.2 | 318.2 | 310.8 | 32 | Ranged Atk -40% | 40 | – | – | 510.2 | 1139.2 | 1179.2 |
| 19 | Edward the Black Prince | Basic | 347.2 | 293.4 | 331.6 | 22 | Mounted Atk -20% Mounted Def -15% Mounted HP-20% All type HP -10% | 95 | can’t attach Atk | – | 457.2 | 1082.2 | 1177.2 |
| 20 | Brian Boru (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 346.8 | 340.4 | 361 | 22 | – | – | Included | 456.8 | 1158.2 | 1158.2 | |
| 21 | Mason Weaver (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | Basic | 401.6 | 345.2 | 349.8 | 12 | – | – | – | 461.6 | 1156.6 | 1156.6 | |
| 22 | Himiko | Basic | 329.8 | 310 | 325.6 | 12 | Ranged Atk -26% Mounted Atk -51% All type Atk -10% | 117 | – | – | 389.8 | 1025.4 | 1142.4 |
| 23 | Winfield Scott | Basic | 356.2 | 314.8 | 306.6 | 32 | – | – | – | 516.2 | 1137.6 | 1137.6 | |
| 24 | Dmitry (as Reinforce) | Rein | 373.8 | 301.8 | 305.6 | 22 | All type Atk -10% | 40 | – | – | 483.8 | 1091.2 | 1131.2 |
| 25 | Hatshepsut (+Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 320.8 | 313 | 302 | 37 | When joining rally, Ground HP -5% Mounted HP -5% | 0 | – | Included | 505.8 | 1120.8 | 1120.8 |
| 26 | Hatshepsut (No Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 320.8 | 313 | 302 | 37 | – | – | Included | 505.8 | 1120.8 | 1120.8 | |
| 27 | Gwanggaeto the Great | Basic | 339.8 | 317.8 | 319.6 | 28 | – | – | – | 479.8 | 1117.2 | 1117.2 | |
| 28 | Rumyantsev | March | 328.8 | 295.2 | 308.4 | 36 | – | – | Included | 508.8 | 1112.4 | 1112.4 | |
| 29 | Mihai | March | 354.6 | 334.6 | 303.6 | 22 | – | – | – | 464.6 | 1102.8 | 1102.8 | |
| 30 | Princess Kaguya | March | 329 | 311.6 | 300.4 | 32 | – | – | – | 489 | 1101 | 1101 | |
| 31 | Minamoto no Yoshitsune (+Dragon) | Basic | 391 | 312.2 | 337.6 | 12 | – | can’t attach Atk | – | 451 | 1100.8 | 1100.8 | |
| 32 | Elektra (+Skin 1) (+Dragon) | March | 333.2 | 300 | 323.2 | 28 | – | – | – | 473.2 | 1096.4 | 1096.4 | |
| 33 | Jumong | Basic | 312 | 323.6 | 308.6 | 22 | All type HP -10% | 40 | can’t attach Atk | – | 422 | 1054.2 | 1094.2 |
| 34 | Charles VI | March | 320.4 | 299.6 | 318 | 30 | – | – | Included | 470.4 | 1088 | 1088 | |
| 35 | Henry V | Basic | 370.2 | 333.6 | 323.2 | 12 | – | can’t attach Atk | – | 430.2 | 1087 | 1087 | |
| 36 | Artemisia I | March | 341.2 | 291.8 | 300.8 | 30 | – | – | Included | 491.2 | 1083.8 | 1083.8 | |
| 37 | Elektra (+Skin 2) (+Dragon) | March | 333.2 | 300 | 308.2 | 28 | – | – | – | 473.2 | 1081.4 | 1081.4 | |
| 38 | Li Shimin | Basic | 337.2 | 281.6 | 316.4 | 28 | – | March Size can attach Lv4 only | – | 477.2 | 1075.2 | 1075.2 | |
| 39 | Elektra (No Skin) (+Dragon) | March | 323.2 | 300 | 308.2 | 28 | – | – | – | 463.2 | 1071.4 | 1071.4 | |
| 40 | Wallenstein | March | 353.2 | 284.6 | 299.2 | 26 | – | – | – | 483.2 | 1067 | 1067 | |
| 41 | Douglas (+Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 306 | 284.2 | 296.4 | 28 | Ground Def -20% Mounted Def -20% | 40 | – | – | 446 | 1026.6 | 1066.6 |
| 42 | Harald III | Basic | 345.4 | 307.8 | 310.2 | 12 | All type Atk -10% | 40 | can’t attach Atk | – | 405.4 | 1023.4 | 1063.4 |
| 43 | Thutmose III | March | 333.4 | 313.4 | 283.6 | 26 | – | – | – | 463.4 | 1060.4 | 1060.4 | |
| 44 | Charles XII | March | 317.2 | 310.4 | 292.4 | 28 | – | – | – | 457.2 | 1060 | 1060 | |
| 45 | James Conrad | March | 298.2 | 302.8 | 307.4 | 22 | All type Def -10% | 40 | – | – | 408.2 | 1018.4 | 1058.4 |
| 46 | Ragnar (+Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 320.2 | 289 | 296.2 | 26 | Ground Def -10% Mounted Def -10% | 20 | – | Included | 450.2 | 1035.4 | 1055.4 |
| 47 | Idunn (as Walls Defender) | Outcity Def | 381.2 | 322.4 | 348.4 | – | – | – | 381.2 | 1052 | 1052 | ||
| 48 | Maarten Tromp (at SvS) | March | 315.6 | 292.4 | 308.2 | 27 | – | – | – | 450.6 | 1051.2 | 1051.2 | |
| 49 | Gustavus Adolphus | Basic | 329.8 | 265.8 | 285 | 22 | Ranged Def & HP -15% Siege Def & HP -15% | 60 | – | – | 439.8 | 990.6 | 1050.6 |
| 50 | Tomyris | March | 305 | 303 | 309.4 | 26 | – | – | – | 435 | 1047.4 | 1047.4 | |
| 51 | Gnarr | March | 330.4 | 282.8 | 301.8 | 26 | – | – | – | 460.4 | 1045 | 1045 | |
| 52 | Cyrus the Great | March | 305 | 284 | 292.4 | 32 | – | – | – | 465 | 1041.4 | 1041.4 | |
| 53 | Ragnar (No Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 320.2 | 289 | 296.2 | 26 | – | – | Included | 450.2 | 1035.4 | 1035.4 | |
| 54 | Marcus Agrippa | March | 318.2 | 308.4 | 300.6 | 20 | – | – | Included | 418.2 | 1027.2 | 1027.2 | |
| 55 | Douglas (No Skin) (+Dragon or Spiritual Beast) | March | 306 | 284.2 | 296.4 | 28 | – | – | – | 446 | 1026.6 | 1026.6 | |
| 56 | Maarten Tromp | March | 315.6 | 292.4 | 308.2 | 22 | – | – | – | 425.6 | 1026.2 | 1026.2 | |
| 57 | Eleanor | March | 316.2 | 309.2 | 290.8 | 22 | – | – | – | 426.2 | 1026.2 | 1026.2 | |
| 58 | Alfred the Great | March | 333 | 304.4 | 298.6 | 18 | – | – | – | 423 | 1026 | 1026 | |
| 59 | Merlin | March | 322.4 | 307.8 | 299.2 | 17 | – | – | Included | 407.4 | 1014.4 | 1014.4 | |
| 60 | Simeon the Great (+Dragon) | March | 308.8 | 301.8 | 290.2 | 18 | – | – | – | 398.8 | 990.8 | 990.8 | |
| 61 | Matthias I | March | 313.4 | 285.4 | 280.6 | 17 | – | – | – | 398.4 | 964.4 | 964.4 | |
| 62 | Dmitry (as Walls Defender) | Rein | 287.8 | 301.8 | 289.6 | 0 | All type Atk -10% | 40 | – | – | 287.8 | 879.2 | 919.2 |
Note
Weaknesses of Rumyantsev, Charles VI, Hatshepsut, Artemisia I, etc
They can be considered the best general only when marching (attacking), but when reinforcing (alliance member’s city), or defending main city (on wall), their performance drops significantly.
If you are using them as your main general, some players may need to train a separate general for reinforcements.
Note – The following cases are no problem. Marching buffs (Attacking buffs) are applied.
– When participating in a rally / starting a rally by yourself
– When sending reinforcements / defending / attacking an occupied building on the map (Portal, Temple, etc.)
Detailed explanation: Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide
Versatility of Gonzalo, James Cook, Franz Joseph I, etc
Unlike Charles VI, Hatshepsut, Their skills and specialties are always fully demonstrated, not just when marching (attacking).
Therefore, it is also excellent when used as a Reinforcement & Defense general. (Reference: Best of Defense General (Wall))
If your defense general isn’t growing up enough, it’s good enough to use them in a dual role. (Although it is troublesome to put it on and off the defense general each time)
Related – Other Recommended Generals
Overall
Best Generals (& Combinations)
Recommended generals are summarized by role, such as battle-oriented and development-oriented.
Recommended Main Generals
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Recommended Assistant Generals
Subordinate City Debuff Generals (Mayor)
Subordinate City Generals (Mayor) Debuff Comparison Tool
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List of All Generals
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135 Comments
hola según tu dices que Francis Josep no puede usar libro de ataque de arqueros , pero yo lo tengo y si se le puede poner adjunto foto
> Hi, according to what you said, Franz Joseph can’t use the Archer Attack book, but I have him and it can be applied. Photo attached.
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What you have attached is not “Attack,” but “Range Bonus,” “Defense,” and “HP.”
Just to be sure, I also checked in the game right now, and “Attack” cannot be attached.
I was able to put a skill book on Maarten Tromp.
Thank you!
I wanted to combine Ragnar (main) with Algernon Sidney (assistant), but Ragnar’s basic skills interfered. Why…
If it is Tachibana Ginchiyo (assistant), the only thing that would clash is the skill book (ranged troop attack), but that would be a minus, so would Merlin be better?
Sidney and Ginchiyo are pretty much unlocked with their pledges, so this is unplanned and sad…
They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Merlin is a little better when marching, but falls flat when reinforcing.
FYI: Best of Assistant Generals: Ranged PvP
Thanks for doing the amazing work. I have a question about Idunn. Has anyone been able to confirm that her buffs work when reinforcing a keep?
Confirmed. See “Outcity Defense Buff” section below.
Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide
Marlin vs Merlin, not pairable. Although Marlin seems to know how to handle pointy, sharp and arrow like objects and he comes with a march increase, he doesn’t embody the class of a member of the knights of the round table.
Thank you for your work, it has been of exceptional help throughout the game.
LOL. Thanks for pointing that out. Fixed.
Great information.
I think scoring criteria should consider march size to be atleast 3x as much as attack, defense or HP buffs. I don’t think that changes the ranking much though.
With 1% march size buff, thats bringing in 1% additional attack, 1% defense, and 1% HP from the additional troops. 1% march size buff is really adding 3% buff, so scoring wise it should be considered 3x as much.
That is if the additional troops are equally added to each layer. If instead additional troops are all added to the top tier attacking layers only then it is more than 3x but can’t really determine that without knowing exact march.
Anyways, thanks for the comprehensive guide.
hi is there anyway you can update these rankings with Electra plus skin, suchet plus skin, etc….also can we get inclusion of freyja and idunn. and anyway spread sheets can be updated with what general works with what…would be greatly appreciated…love what you do.
Hi,
Where do you think this basic buff version of a Conrad should be ranked?
I think you are referring to Godfrey (both have slightly inferior attack and very high total with defense and HP), I added.
elekta ile mina aynı güçte mi,ben minayı tercih etmiştim ve 5 yıldız da yapmak üzereyim
> Are Elkta and Mina the same strength? I preferred Mina and I’m about to give it 5 stars.
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Electra has a slight advantage when marching, while Minamoto has an advantage when reinforcing allied castles.
Can you add electra w skin to the comparison…
The mini spreadsheet you post under each general, please break down the buffs at each level of ascension. This way we can determine how many red stars we need to equal or surpass a General I am already using.
Thank you, this page has been very helpful, one thing I didn’t see a reference to is the new Elektra skin, would appreciate your thoughts on that
Maarten Tromp can get ranged troop attack, defense or HP skill books (see screenshots).
Thanks for the info!!
The metodology of evaluation is not clear to me. I made a spreadsheet to sum basic skills, skin, added books, maximum ascend and maximum specialties.
As per my calculation, Marcus Agrippa (total possible) would have 185% attack, 180% def, 8% march and 100% HP.
Douglas: 156% attack, 110% def, 28% march, 100% HP.
Louis: 150% attack, 150% def, 20% march and 75% HP.
If those are correct, why Douglas+Skin is stronger than Marcus Agrippa? I intend to publish the spreadsheet soon, in order to help others and to see if anyone has a different view
Read Section 1.
What about Marcus Agrippa with full covenant unlock. Think stats would make him higher on the list. Thanks for adding him so quickly.
Maarten Trump?
Needs to be on the list
Added.
haven’t seen that general anywhere at all
He was only available for a limited time on certain servers
Thank you for all the information.
Regarding Mehmed II, I felt that the description was incorrect.
I believe that the attack of the archer is much higher.
Since the value is for reinforcements, it is lower than for marching.
Thank you for your reply.
I understood that it is the evaluation during B) reinforcements.
In the A) evaluation of the march, there is no mention of him because the other generals are better and out of the ranking.
Ciao, io uso Thuong Kiet + Regina Budika nel muro, che ne pensi?
I don’t think it is good.
If you are a K39 class in the late game, I can understand extending the mounted troops buff with Boudica, but if you are not, I would deprecate it.
If so, then in that case I would recommend a main other than Kiet, such as Leo III.
Reference.
– Best Combo
– Best of Defense General (Wall)
– Best of Assistant Generals: Defense (Wall)
Ho cambiato, adesso ho Budika e Leone III
When it comes to Specialties, why all of them are mentioned as (when attacking)? For example 1st and 3rd Electra’s specialties, do not say “attacking” or “marching” ranged attack etc, only the 2nd one says that… ?
This is because it is an abbreviation of the sum of all specialties 1-4.
(This means that the total value is only the same when attacking.)
I always refer to your articles.
I would be happy if you could write an article about several recommended combinations of main and assistant without raising a general.
At that time, it would be helpful if you could write down what kind of skills you want to give the main and assistants
What rank would you give Kaguya on reinforcing?
Hi, I’ve developed minamoto to his 1st stage of speciality. After the ascending features, I’m loosing interest in him . I can get my hands on elektra or Simione. Should I switch? If yes , to which one ? (Low spender so far )
After the assistant generals were introduced, having one general that combines ranged and siege buffs at the same time does not make sense any more. Instead, start with a pure ranged general and use a siege general with siege attack and siege range skill book as an assistant. Napoleon works great for this.
Then I think it would be stronger to augment the archers with an assistant to the main general of archers + siege.
I know it would take awhile but have you started computing the rankings of ten star generals… They look like five new specialties which could change the rankings… Just call this new ranking… For Sir Philip…
… Or extreme coiners…
I wonder if “marching” and “attacking” in buff requirement are same meaning whey they use these 2 terms.
I guess “marching” simply means to get out of one’s own castle.
Please share your thought
“Attacking” and “Marching” have the same meaning. It’s just that the words aren’t unified.
All are explained in the following articles.
Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide
what a wonderful article. Thanks a lot.
I’m not sure “when the General lead the army to attack” means “marching”.
As you know there are buff activation requirements like “attacking”(eg. Simeon’s 2nd specialty), “marching” (eg. Simeon’s 4th specialty).
I guess rather “when the General lead the army to attack” means “attacking”.
If “when the General lead the army to attack” means “marching”, what does “attacking” mean?
And I also guess “marching” means to get out of one’s own keep. so it includes attacking/reinforcing someone. I’ve not tested my guess. =)
Please share your thought.
Is Vladimir the Great a pvp general or a Subordinate City general?
How should Vladimir the Great be used?
Please provide a detailed explanation.
Sell, not useful
A member of my alliance has acquired both Simeon and Alfred. So he asked me which one he should adopt. I don’t know which one is better as I use Minamoto no Yoshitsune as my main general and Simeon as my ranged + siege. I think there is little difference between Simeon and Alfred. Which one would you choose if you are an administrator? Please elaborate.
Thank you for the awesome guide! I’m currently deciding between Elektra vs Minamoto and getting conflicting advise from various sources. What would a solid choice for Archer PvP be considering all 4 specialties maxed?
If four specialties are the maximum, the two are close, but each has its advantages and disadvantages.
Decide which is better based on whether you can tolerate performance degradation when used for reinforcements and walls.
This value varies from person to person.
Elektra is slightly better than Minamoto no Yoshitsune in the march. However, in the case of reinforcements and walls, Minamoto no Yoshitsune has better performance.
(Note-Many people misunderstand march buffs and reinforcement buffs, so please refer to this guide as well. Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide)
Elektra
Advantages
Considering only skill and specialty, the attack and defense of Elektra and Minamoto no Yoshitsune are the same at 116% / 10%, but Elektra has a high stats increase value, so when the general becomes Lv40, it will be + 5-6% more than Minamoto no Yoshitsune.
Also, the march size is larger than that of Minamoto no Yoshitsune.
Disadvantages
When used for reinforcements and walls, its performance deteriorates and it is inferior to Minamoto no Yoshitsune. (See the Reinforcement Ranking section)
Minamoto no Yoshitsune
Advantages
Even when used for reinforcements and walls, performance does not deteriorate at all. (See the Reinforcement Ranking section)
Disadvantages
Stats increase and march size
So I have a slight twist now. I just acquired Gnarr. Would he be a better option for my main Archer general? Or would you go with Elektra or Minamoto?
So I am one of those who don’t pay a lot of money, and I have a question about reinforcing generals. When only three left specialties are considered, Dmitry has 75% ranged troop attack, while Elektra 65%. Is the 10% difference really making in worthwhile to develop Dmitry? I suspect that not, but I did buy Dmitry from tavern just because I thought at that time that I will regret it later if I didn’t recruit this general.
If you don’t pay a lot, I don’t recommend Dmitry. In this case, it is not realistic to raise two generals (main & reinforce). I recommend that you concentrate on one main general.
Thank you for this very helpfull guide…
Great work, i would reccomend it to everybody who’s playing this game !!!
Thank you for your compliments. I’m glad to hear it.
In “Reinforcements ranking” you mention that :
When reinforcing an alliance member’s city, “when General is leading the army to attack” buff is disabled.
(See this article for details: Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide)
I have been through the Buff article, and i am a little puzzled.
I would think that this kind of buff, would still be applied to your own troops.
Or not?
The buff “when General is leading the army to attack” means the “marching buff”.
If you send reinforcements to an alliance member’s city, the “reinforcement buff” and “in-city buff” will be applied to your troops, and the “marching buff” will be disabled. This has been tested and confirmed.
I think Dmitri makes exception though
Dmitri’s skill is not a “marching buff”, but a “reinforcement buff”.
Therefore, it is not the subject of this discussion.
What are your overall thoughts on Gnarr, is he worth investing in? And would you use him or Elektra for PvP? What would his unit composition be like? Great guide btw!
In the early game, it is a better option than Elektra. However, if you max out all 4 specialties, he will be inferior to the others, so other generals such as Electra are a better choice to seriously invest in for the later stages of the game. For troop formation, I recommend you to use the archer main.
Since dragon requirement for elektra is changed, is elektra now the best ranged general when equipped with nidhog/ladon?
No, I think Simeon is still slightly better when the 4 specialties are maximized.
That’s true if you consider only skills and speciality.. if you consider base stats+increase, l35 Elektra is almost at par with l35 Simeon.. may be a difference of a percent or two.. but now generals can be upgraded till 40 and Elektra will for sure pull ahead of Simeon..
In terms of stats increase, Elektra is superior to Simeon only in attacks. So I understand that you are only talking about attacks.
As shown below, Elektra’s attack buff should finally be equivalent to Simeon at Lv40. (Unless the specifications have changed.)
Also, except for attacks, Simeon is better.
Therefore, I don’t think Elektra is superior.
Elektra
Star 5 inrease 22.05
Initial value 110
lv40 attack -> 110 + 859.95 = 969.95
Simeon
Star 5 inrease 21.52
Initial value 110
lv40 attack -> 110 + 839.28 = 949.28
lv40 stats difference about 20 = Attack buff difference about 4%
Attack buffs based only on skills & specialty
Elektra 116%
Simeon 121%
Attack buff considering the stats difference in lv40
Elektra 120%
Simeon 121%
Thanks for the detailed information. Appreciate it!
Can you please also throw some light on why Elektra is considered at par with Simeon when she is equipped with Ladon?
I didn’t mean to imply that they were on par, but as I answered above, a Simeon with ladon is slightly better than an Elektra with ladon.
Level 40, 5 star and fully developed (all specialities unlocked) ranged generals
attack def hp march size
Alfred 295.0% 225.2% 218.4% 6.0%
Simeon 295.8% 256.0% 209.8% 6.0%
Elektra 295.0% 219.6% 228.0% 6.0%
skill books are not considered..
I still prefer Elektra due to higher HP
Hi .can I ask what skills for Himiko thanks and God bless
Please refer to the following guide.
Best Skills Guide – what skills should you add?
Hi. Thanks, and great work. For this and your other general guides for the other troop types, what is your suggestion for someone that is in between “pays no money” and “pays a lot of money”? So, not free-to-play, but also not coining heavily. For example, in your mounted PVP general article, Roland ranks 1st for “no spending”, and Hannibal is 1st for “heavy spending”. Who to choose if one is in the middle in terms of spending, and why?
In that case, please refer to the section on “pay no money”.
The “Assumptions” listed are important.
Even in the case of a small charge, the generals you can get are unlikely to be anything other than taverns, chests, and relics, and it is not easy to maximize 4 specialties.
Thank you for maintaining this amazing site.
Could you elaborate on the benefits of “ranged+siege” vs “ranged?
What is preferrable and why.
Ranged+Siege
This composition is more effective when fighting enemies of the same level or lower as you, since siege machines are extremely strong against low-level soldiers. Even with a small number of siege, it does a great job.
Ranged
This composition is more effective against enemies of equal or higher level than you, because in this case, siege machines are less effective.
related: Troop Type Guide: Usage & Characteristics (Mounted, Ground, Ranged, Siege)
Considering that higher level troops, means also bigger armies, it would rather be suicidal to attack higher level opponents.
So, my take from your explanation is that ranged+siege is a more “standard” approach, covering 70-80% of the cases.
Would you find this conclusion reasonable?
No, it depends on what stage you are on.
Broadly speaking, my impression is that “Ranged+Siege” is often preferred in the first half of the game, and “Ranged” in the second half.
In my description of “Ranged”, I wrote “when fighting an enemy stronger than you”, which means when you create an advantage by rallying to attack. I think this type of fighting is not common in the first half of the game.
If you don’t do this kind of fighting, please replace the ranged description with “when fighting an enemy of your own level”.
My impression is that “Ranged” only is often better for late game, k33+ fights.
The main reason is debuffs; at K33, there is fierce debuff competition from Achaemenidae. The attack of siege machines can be debuffed relatively easily and significantly. Therefore, in this case, adding a few siege machines will not do much.
However, these stories of course depend on the buff difference between you and the enemy, debuffs, and the enemy’s composition, so you need to be careful about that.
Great info.
I am now lv28. So far, I have only cav army.
I think I’ll start building a “siege+arch” with the Gwanggaeto I have available. The path to lv33 is quite long.
If an unpaid user were to raise only one PvP general, which do you think would be better, Minamoto no Yoshitsune or Elektra?
Or would you prefer a non-bow general like Trajan?
It would be great if you could tell me what you recommend when you think about having just one PvP general anyway.
In that condition, first of all, it is not recommended to use any other type of troops than archers. Cavalry specialization is a prey for many players who specialize in archery, infantry specialization has relatively few situations in which it can play an active role, and siege weapon specialization is for very advanced players with even more limited situations.
As for generals, I recommend Elektra, as described in section A-1.
If you are unpaid, I think 3 specialties is the limit. In this condition, Elektra has a higher attack and a larger march size.
Unlike Electra, Minamoto no Yoshitsune has the advantage of not being weakened by reinforcements or defense, but if you can’t maximize 4 specialties, it’s not much different from Elektra.
Thank you for your answer!
They were very helpful!
Thank you for this comprehensive review! Please share with me where Matthias 1 would rank in the ranged general review.
I have added it to the pay a lot and reinforcements section, but he is basically unranked.
He can be used if you have a formation of ranged troop + siege machine, but I still don’t recommend it.
Per elektra che libri usare e che tipo di truppe usare per l’attacco
You have done a great job in general rankings. I love your articles. Just one suggestion that the stats growth should be considered. Those could be a 10% or even more difference when they get to Lv35 which might have significant impact on the final ranking.
Himiko hakkında düşünceleriniz nelerdir?
> What are your thoughts on Himiko?
As you can see in the article, it is not ranked. It is not recommended to seriously train her.
If you don’t have a good general yet, you can keep her cultivation to +300, use her temporarily, and make her a duty officer later.
What is your opinion about Edward compare to Winfield?
Edward has been added to the article.
Winfield is better in attack. Edward is better in overall performance, including HP, defense, debuff.
This is true whether you max out 4 specialties or only 3.
Also, when reinforcing, Edward is better.
Thanks a lot for this comprehensive guide! I got Tang Taizong, seems to be a good Ranged General. What is your opinion? I have Winfield Scott and Tang Taizong, Not sure what is a better choice.
Tang Taizong is “Li Shimin”, which is his English name in the game.
He and Winfield are listed in the A-1 section above, and that’s the ranking from my perspective.
If you are paying a small amount of money, I think Winfield is the better choice.
If you are paying a heavy amount of money, I would not recommend either of them.
Thanks for the clarification and your guidance! That helped a lot. Was not Aware that Tang is Li
have a Great weekend!
I enjoyed your article. I am using saige attack 4 skill book on Minamoto .. Does this help me or not?
I don’t recommend adding the siege machine skill, because I believe that if you use Minamoto no Yoshitsune, you should specialize in ranged troops.
However, if you really want to use siege machine, I think you should add “siege machine range” instead of “siege machine attack”.
For more information, please refer to the following guide.
Best Skills Guide – what skills should you add?
Good evening. I’m raising Simeon, but if I’m sending Simeon to the throne and I get attacked by the enemy, am I correct in thinking that Simeon’s buffs are invalid?
I hope you can help me out.
In that case, it is valid.
When a building you are occupying is attacked.
and
When you reinforce a building occupied by an ally and it is attacked.
The buffs are effective in both cases. (I have verified this.)
In the game description, the phrase “when they are attacking” is used, but this is not an accurate description.
The following article explains the details.
Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide
Thank you for your answer.
It’s a complicated notation…
The endgame of this game depends greatly on the general. I’ll work on my equipment and dragons.
I have Tomyris in my possession. I’m a beginner so I’m still low level, but I have attached a lvl 3 ranged troop attack (+20%) to her.
Thank you for the information on whether or not the skill book can be used. It helps me a lot!
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Hello. Li shimin increase attack of archer or of archer and siege?
Thanks
What is increased by the original skill is the ranged troops attack.
Increasing the specialty will also increase the attack of siege machine.
Minamoto
Range attack 116%
Range Defense 10%
Range HP 20%
March Size 0%
Alfred
Range attack 95%
Range Defense 20%
Range HP 10%
March Size 6%
Before using skill book, then you have to use “Ranged Troop Range Bonus” on both of them. Then you will probably use Range attack on Alfred and Range HP or Def. On Minamoto you will be able to use HP and Def or march size if you prefer to go that way. So you will end up with those stats most likely ..
Minamoto
Range attack 116%
Range Defense 35%
Range HP 45%
March Size 0%
Alfred
Range attack 120%
Range Defense 20%
Range HP 35%
March Size 6%
So.. overall i feel like minamoto have a slight advantage over alfred.. but both are pretty damn good
I also think they are both pretty good. If I had to say, I think Alfred is slightly superior when attacking, and Minamoto is superior when reinforcing.
Hi there, again
I wonder more and more about reinforcing buildings. And the native skills of generals which are phrased „when general is leading the army to attack“ is not in effect when reinforcing a building or player. In contrast there are generals which do not have this phrase, like Gwanggaeto. And it seems like Minamoto, too, in case his text is not only an impractical language variation of the same attack meaning.
In case these two generals really do work while reinforcing players or buildings an additional subheader „for reinforcements“ with an own ranking could make sense?!
In case Minamoto is such a general he would be a best overall fit. And at least a great secondary for Battlefield or throne war.
What are your thoughts and experiments about that topic?
Grateful greetings,
FreyKey
I added a ranking for reinforcements. I think Minamoto or Dmitry is the top choice, followed by Gwanggaeto, who is excellent.
Unlike the other generals, Minamoto is excellent in attack, reinforcements, and defense. I think he is a general worthy of special mention.
New General Tomyris. As a Ranged General, would you rate her as roughly equal to Elektra, and just behind Alfred and Simeon?
That’s true if all 4 specialties are maxed out. Elektra is better in terms of march size, and Tomyris is better in terms of HP and rally capacity.
What about Tomyris. Looks better than Minamoto. What’s your opinion?
If all 4 specialties are maxed out, it is almost the same. However, Tomyris is better in terms of rallying (Leader), and Minamoto is better in terms of reinforcements and defense.
When only the left 3 specialties are maxed out, Tomyris is better in terms of attack, but Minamoto is better in terms of HP.
May you please update the way you presented the range generals, I like the way you did it with the ground generals you also added maxed stats on HP and Defense so we can consider those stats when deciding on which general we should commit to. Thank you very much for your hard work it really helps to improve our game play experience
The entire article has been significantly updated.
Added information on HP, defense as well as march size, etc.
Is it true that If you could add the 25% ranged attack Yoshitsune would be too broken for the game
If it were possible, it would be 141% at max specialties, 20% more than Simeon, which would put Yoshitsune in first place, but I don’t think it would break the game.
The top players have buffs in excess of 1100%. This is not a dramatic difference in a fight in that class.
I don’t see you mentioning Thunder Scorpion (beast) to attach at a general.
Level 10 gives +30% archer attack, +30% archer defense, +30% archer HP and +30% march speed.
So isn’t he better than any dragon to attach?
Depending on how you raise them, dragons may be better overall.
A level 10 dragon has an approximate +100 attribute boost, so it will get about 20% attack, HP, and defense buffs.
If you have a level 10 Celtic Demon, you can get skill buffs such as ranged attack +25%, march size +15%, and so on.
You can also add 4 buffs of your choice by refining. If you set all of them as ranged attack, you can get up to +60%. (In the case of Celtic Demon)
Related : Dragon Complete Guide – Type, Buff, Enhance
Which dragon should be equipped to activate Simeon’s skill?
It can be activated by any dragon.
You mentioned Minamoto no Yoshitsune cannot have ranged attack skill book. Does it mean that you don’t recommend adding skill book or game prevents adding that skill book?
it means “game prevents adding that skill book”.
Thanks for the great information. I am having trouble skilling my Li Shinmin.
I want to add ranged attack, range bonus, and march size. I believe that March Size is only a lvl 4 skill that can be added to him, but I can’t seem to get it right. If I put March Size on Li Shinmin, I think he will have an advantage over Yoshitsune in terms of ranged attacks.
It’s a difficult decision. It depends on how far you want to develop his specialty in the future.
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Please take a look at the following explanation on how to add skills.
General Skill – How to add 3 Skills “You Want”
This is a really great guide. Thank you.
I have Minamoto no Yoshitsune, Simeon the Great, and Alfred the Great, and I’m looking to create a ranged PvP General. I also have 2 dragons.
Which one should I concentrate on?
I’m so jealous!
I think Simeon would be a good choice for that requirement.
The article says that Simeon requires a dragon, but does Simeon’s skill markings not glow when he wears a dragon, like Minamoto no Yoshitsune or Elektra?
Does this mean that Simeon needs to be a wonder dragon instead of a pasture dragon? Or is it okay to use either?
The skill area didn’t glow when I put on the Pasture’s Dragon.
That’s the only thing that bothered me, because I can’t wear a dragon of wonder.
The in-game instructions say that “any dragon”, so I think Wonder’s dragon will be fine.
This game is so lax, you shouldn’t care if your unique skills shine or not.
The only way to check the effect is to attack dead castles both with and without dragons, and check the buffs in the Battle Report.
Do you think Simeon the Great slightly better than Alfred as at the start he starts with 35% vs Alfred’s 30%? After maxing all the specialty they look same though (120% vs 121%).
Or do you think Alfred is still better with the slightly better base stats? (of course I am not considering their siege capabilities as they are weak anyway)
Assuming maxed specialties, if I had to guess, I’d say Simeon.
However, this is for k35 players who have gone through all the elements to the point where a 1% difference cannot be ignored.
For those who don’t, as a practical matter, I think you should raise the one you get first.
A 1% difference can be quickly turned around, especially with equipment refinement.
Additional note – Simeon has high ranged defense, but no ranged HP. I don’t know how much of a difference this makes to Alfred in terms of wins and losses. However, this is one of the reasons.
The March size increase does not apply to the bonus amount, but only to the base number, so even if the rally spot is level 35, it will only increase by about 40,000 troops…
I’m new to the game so I have most likley missunderstood how damage is calculated but don’t you think march size is better than attack? I would believe final troop damage is someting like [troop damage * troop amount]. Troop damge can be broken down into base troop damage * (1+added atk%) where “added atk%” consists of all the sources added up.
I dont know realistic numbers for an example so i’ll just make some up. Say you have 10 k base troop damage, +900% attack, 500k base march size and +100% march size which with above assumption would make for [10 k * (1+900%)] * (500 k * (1+100%)] = [100 k] * [1 M] = 100 B final damage.
To add 20% attack to this silly example would make it [10 k * (1+920%)] * (500 k * (1+100%)] = [102 k] * [1 M] = 102 B final damage => 2% increase in final damage.
Whereas adding 20 march size would make it [10 k * (1+900%)] * (500 k * (1+120%)] = [100 k] * [1,1 M] = 110 B final damage. => 10% increase in final damage.
Even if this is not how damage is calculated I would think adding march size would help you by adding “HP” too and therefore perhaps “worth” more than attack for that reason?
Thanks for a great guide!
I appreciate you taking the time to write a detailed discussion. Thank you very much.
I am thinking the same thing as you as a hypothesis.
However, I have not been able to verify it enough to make a definite conclusion.
(That’s why I use the phrase “you can think…” in this article.)
As for the point in this article where I mentioned “if you add March Size, you can think of…”, it is based on the same idea as yours, but one different case is taken into consideration.
That is, if there is no buffing at all in the base value before comparison.
I’ll borrow your example to illustrate.
– Base = 10k base troop damage, 500k base march size
– +20% attack = [(10k * 1.2) * 500k].
– +20% march size = [10k * (500k * 1.2)].
and in this case the damage is expected to be the same.
Therefore, my current hypothesis is
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“march size >= attack”.
(However, as a practical matter, I think there are many cases like your example.
When you talk about a purely ranged troop formation, can you give me an example of the troop type percentages in that case? and maybe compare them to a range/siege pvp troop formation setup by percentage?
Here’s a rough guide.
– Purely Ranged – 90% ranged, 10% other troop layers
– Ranged + Siege – 60-70% ranged, 20-30% siege, 10% other troop layers
Thank you for all the great information. I can’t seem to get Minamoto no Yoshitsune, so I’m raising Li Shinmin instead.
I understand the rock-paper-scissors relationship between cavalry, archers, and ground troops, but should I think of siege without such rock-paper-scissors relationship? I’ve always wondered, since siege kill a lot of enemies in PvP.
Siege machines are strong against Ranged and weak against Mounted and Ground. For more information, I’ve written an explanatory article, take a look at it
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It also mentions the fact that it kills a lot of enemies.
Troop Type Guide: Usage & Characteristics (Mounted, Ground, Ranged, Siege)
Excuse me for asking.
In the case of each troop layer.
If you have a lot of high tier troops and all the low tier troops are 1000 units, is that the strongest?
That is the widely known standard, but there is no absolute best.