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Hi, I'm a foreigner living in Japan for 6 months now working.
I've started learning Japanese but it's too weak to book a phone call to a shop.

There are a couple of shops on CityHeaven.net(Episode, MyEssentials) where I've been able to book online and they were okay with speaking English(broken) but whatever and it worked.
But most shops are out of reach for me as I can't speak Japanese well.
There are foreigner "friendly" shops but those are very expensive.

So what are my options(apart from learning Japanese which I'm slowly doing)?

I've read some say you can contact the girls directly on Line or Twitter but where do I get their Line IDs or Twitter account names?
Asking on Okini Talk is not allowed and may get you banned.

What are my options?
 
pinkelephant said:
Asking on Okini Talk is not allowed and may get you banned.
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I wonder how many of them assumed you were asking for their personal accounts considering the language barrier. You can already ask them to make a reservation for you, so asking for their line or twitter is completely unnecessary
 
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I don't understand your question. You were already able to use shops that were willing to deal with bookings in English.....surprising enough. These are your options. Use the shops that are suitable for your level and don't try to fake it.

The only other option is to learn Japanese to get access to more shops which require you to talk on the phone.
 
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SealedTears said:
I wonder how many of them assumed you were asking for their personal accounts considering the language barrier. You can already ask them to make a reservation for you, so asking for their line or twitter is completely unnecessary
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I just use Google Translate on okini talk. Yeah I've asked some to make reservations and they have tried but the store ultimately just refuses foreigners sometimes.
 
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I don't understand your question. You were already able to use shops that were willing to deal with bookings in English.....surprising enough. These are your options. Use the shops that are suitable for your level and don't try to fake it.

The only other option is to learn Japanese to get access to more shops which require you to talk on the phone.
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Well, that is what I'm already doing. The question was, is there anything more that I can do(apart from improving my Japanese which I am) to get access to more stores/girls.
 
pinkelephant said:
I just use Google Translate on okini talk. Yeah I've asked some to make reservations and they have tried but the store ultimately just refuses foreigners sometimes.
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I told you not to fake it. If you are not able to write with the staff and girls in Japanese you shouldn't bother them. Customers not being able to communicate properly are annoying for the girls and the shops and will prevent them to bother with foreigners at all. This really fucking annoys me.

If it is a health shop it is not up to the girl to do make reservations anyway....sure, she can tell the store but afterwards you will have to confirm with them via phone and talk to their staff if details about the booking change. Stick so shops that are used to dealing with foreigners and allow communication via text. Don't fuck it up for the rest of us by getting on shop's nerves with translation apps and no understanding of what you are actually doing.
 
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pinkelephant said:
I just use Google Translate on okini talk.
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After all the times we've told people not to try to fake their way past language checks….

Just stop. If you have to use Google translate, your Japanese isn't up to snuff for that shop. End of story.

Now crack a textbook and improve your Japanese. And until you do, stick to the shops and services that are happy to deal with monolingual English speakers.
 
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Ok, guys understood. Sorry. I'll just use Episode and MyEssentials for now.
Will keep learning Japanese. Then when I feel I have a good grasp, I'll try other stores. Thanks for the advice.
 
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As an aside, I'm using the Pimsleur app for learning spoken Japanese. What would you suggest for written?
 
Not sure what your written level is at this point but the unpleasant truth is you'll probably need to pony up some cash and enroll in a language school to really get to where you want to go. You can get a modicum of listening/speaking via apps, etc but to really get "good" you need a hardass sensei busting your balls on a regular basis.

In 20 years here I've yet to meet anyone who got proficient at written Japanese without at least a few years of learning it at a university or school - not to say people like that don't exist, just that I've never met one.
 
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Well, that's rough. I've only been here about 5 months and only started learning a couple of months ago. My work has a Japanese course they offer but I was too busy with work to indulge in that, as my work itself requires no Japanese. Anyway, I'm not sure how long I'll be here. If I land a better job in another country I'll be off. So there's not much motivation to join a school or something.
 
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Not sure what your written level is at this point but the unpleasant truth is you'll probably need to pony up some cash and enroll in a language school to really get to where you want to go. You can get a modicum of listening/speaking via apps, etc but to really get "good" you need a hardass sensei busting your balls on a regular basis.

In 20 years here I've yet to meet anyone who got proficient at written Japanese without at least a few years of learning it at a university or school - not to say people like that don't exist, just that I've never met one.
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Will agree with this post. I've been here longer than I'd care to admit at this point, but I really didn't start reading/writing until I had a more formal language education. But even still, it's kinda shit tbh. It would behoove anyone living here to master the basic characters and a couple of hundred kanji (at least know what they mean) to function generally well in daily life.

Speaking/Listening - different beast and can be mastered in a much shorter time.
 
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BIPSY said:
In 20 years here I've yet to meet anyone who got proficient at written Japanese without at least a few years of learning it at a university or school - not to say people like that don't exist, just that I've never met one.
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Depends what you mean by written Japanese. If I have to write anything longer than my address with a pen and a paper I am out, but with computer the only way the recipient will notice I am not Japanese is I tend to write too formal. And I never have attended more than three hours of Japanese classes in university before dropping out.

What is actually funny is when I do have to write by hand I myself have trouble understanding what I wrote afterwards but the Japanese tend to be masters of decrypting fucked up hand-written kanji and have never had problems with it.
 
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Glad you got scammed, dumbfuck
 
Airnest said:
Glad you got scammed, dumbfuck
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Looking at how much time you spend here it's clear you are dumb, can't land a proper job or just ugly having to pay all the time. At least I'm new in this country just looking for advice. You fucks seemingly have been living here long working some English teaching job. Probably not smart enough for a real job. Fuck off
 
pinkelephant said:
Looking at how much time you spend here it's clear you are dumb, can't land a proper job or just ugly having to pay all the time. At least I'm new in this country just looking for advice. You fucks seemingly have been living here long working some English teaching job. Probably not smart enough for a real job. Fuck off
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Looks like your projecting yourself on me. 🤣🤣🤣 No sympathy for you assclown. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Airnest said:
Looks like your projecting yourself on me. 🤣🤣🤣 No sympathy for you assclown. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Joined since 2012 says it all with more than 1000 messages. Probably jobless or working on some shitty job requiring no talent.
 
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