Best of Mounted PvP General

Best of Mounted PvP General

* This ranking is for Main Generals.
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– Assistant Generals Ranking (Mounted)
– Generals Combination Recommendation
– Generals Combination Compatibility List

12/19/2025 – Added Stephen I of Hungary.
11/7/2025 – Added Henry IV.
11/7/2025 – Refreshed General Buff values to Lv 50 stats.
11/7/2025 – Changed ranking evaluation criteria.
9/19/2025 – Added Louis XIV.
7/25/2025 – Added Mouri Motonari.
6/13/2025 – Added Olav II.
2/21/2025 – Added Artemis & Hermes.
1/10/2025 – Added Haakon Haraldsson.
11/28/2024 – Added George Monck.
10/4/2024 – Added Cheng Yaojin.
8/23/2024 – Added Marco Polo.
6/28/2024 – added Washington (Prime).
5/21/2024 – The section “B) for Reinforce (to ally’s castle) & Wall Defender” has been completely revamped and detailed.
5/17/2024 – added Hestia.
5/16/2024 – “Covenant” buff was applied and the entire ranking was updated.
2/23/2024 – added Jayavarman II.
2/16/2024 – added King Arthur (after enhanced specs).
12/1/2023 – added Napoleon(Prime), Andre Massena.
11/6/2023 – added Martius(+Skin).
9/15/2023 – added Laudon.
6/23/2023 – added Poligenus.
1/20/2023 – added Sun Ce.
11/16/2022 – added Mordred.
10/7/2022 – added Ii Naomasa.
7/28/2022 – Completely revamped Section B-1 and added table of listing. / Added Zhao Yun. / Hannibal to star level 10.
6/29/2022 add – George A. Custer / Update some generals to buff values at star level 10 (Roland, Martinus, Prince Eugene)
6/22/2022 – Added Prince Eugene / Add a overall rating section for “If you pay a lot of money”
4/22/2022 – Added Lysander
3/10/2022 – Added Bertrand du Guesclin
1/27/2022 – Added a new general to the “pay no money” section, now newly available in the tavern (Roberto Guisgard).
12/31/2021 – Added Maximilian I
11/15/2022 – Since the difficulty of obtaining and developing generals has decreased more than before, the division between “pay no money” & “pay a lot of money” was abolished.
11/4/2021– For ver4 update, Martinus & Ulysses’ requirement changed “pasture dragon” to “any dragon”.
9/23/2021 – Added Gaius Octavius
9/13/2021 – Added generals that are now available in relics in “pay no money” section.
9/3/2021 – added Rankings for Reinforcements.
8/4/2021 – Changed the assumptions of the “pay no money” case / Changed all generals’ stats when using Lv4 skillbook / Added Cyrus, Yue Fei

The following rankings are based on my personal opinion when the troop formation is specialized in Mounted Troop.

Example of troop formation – more than 90% mounted troops / less than 10% other troops / all troops are layered

Assumptions

  • General – All
  • Specialty – Maximize all 4. (Reference: Specialty Guide)
  • Star level – 10 (Awakened)
  • Covenant – Maximize all.

Evaluation Criteria

I calculated the following 3 types of evaluation scores.

  • Evaluation 1: Damage
    • Calculated by adding the buff values of Attack and March Size.
    • The March Size buff value is multiplied by five (x5) before being added.
    • (Why x5 will be explained later.)
  • Evaluation 2: Evaluation 1 + Defense + HP
    • Calculated by adding the buff values of Defense and HP to the Evaluation 1 score.
  • Evaluation 3: Evaluation 2 + Debuff
    • Only if it has a debuff.
    • For an All Types of Troop Debuff, the debuff value is multiplied by four (x4) before being added.

The ranking is ordered by Evaluation Score 3.

If you would like to know the ranks for Evaluation Score 1 or Evaluation Score 2, please refer to the table below, where the table can be sorted accordingly.

Why x5 ? (Additional note regarding evaluation 1)

Reason: After applying various values to the damage calculation formula, this effect was roughly equivalent to an attack buff.

(March Size +10% provides roughly a +50% attack buff damage increase effect)

However, please note that this multiplier of five does not apply as a universal rule under all circumstances.

The relationship between March Size Buff (%) and Attack Buff (%) cannot typically be expressed as a simple multiplier like “multiplying March Size Buff (%) by a certain factor equals Attack Buff (%)”.

However, I determined that under specific conditions, it might be possible to simplify the multiplier to some extent.

As of November 2025, the maximum attack buff from a fully-developed general is around +500%. Under these conditions, the result was approximately a 5x multiplier.

If this attack buff standard changes, the results would be as follows:

  • If it is +1,000%… approximately 8.5 times (x8.5)
  • If it is +800%… approximately 7 times (x7)
  • If it is +100%… approximately 1.5 times (x1.5)

Since general’s buffs continue to increase steadily, this multiplier will likely rise gradually in the future.

2 types of rankings

Some buffs that each general has are not valid if they are used as reinforcements to an ally’s castle or if they are made defenders of their own castle. (For more information: Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide)

In other words, some generals have “march/rally and “Reinforcements (to an ally’s castle)/Defenders” have very different performances.

For this reason, the ranking is divided between these 2 types.

Buffs by Skillbook

Basically, it is assumed that by using an assistant, the following 6 types are attached.

Attack, Defense, HP, Speed, March Size, March Speed (Lv4 for each).

In other words, it is basically assumed that there will be no difference depending on the skill book.
However, if a general has a skill book that cannot be added, it is excluded from the buff value.


A) for March & Rally

Overall Rating

For marching/rallying, I recommend Henry IV.

Next are, Stephen I of Hungary, Louis XIV, Olav II.

Hermes is quite good, but I would recommend making him assistants rather than main generals. He is difficult to obtain and very difficult to make red stars.

For non-paying:
Even at Red Star 0, the top-ranked general in this list is recommended — they outperform a Red Star 5 Poligenus, available at the tavern (assuming max Specialties and Covenant).
Even for free-to-play players, obtaining the latest premium generals outside the Tavern isn’t very difficult (Reference: How to obtain).
If you save up general tokens and use them during events when new generals is added, there’s a high chance of getting one.
Aiming for Red Star 1 is also totally realistic.

1. Henry IV

Basic Buff

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Rally
Capacity
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
262.8255.6265.6
Skill (Awakened)14012510080
Specialty75656500
Skin
Covenant201020100
Skillbook25252512
Total522.8480.6475.6300
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 672.8
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1629
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1629

The basic buff type that does not weaken when reinforcing. (See Section B for details.)

While basic buff types typically have lower buff values than marching buff type generals, this one does not.

Excellent in all aspects: Attack, Defense, HP, and March Size.

2. Stephen I of Hungary

Marching Buff

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Rally
Capacity
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
276255.6264
Skill (Awakened)145125115100
Specialty80554500
Skin
Covenant15101580
Skillbook25252512
Total541470.6464300
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 691
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1625.6
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1625.6

A downgraded version of Henry IV.

During marches, he’s nearly on par with Henry IV.
However, Henry IV doesn’t weaken when reinforcing.
Stephen I suffers significant weakening. (See Section B for details.)

3. Louis XIV

Marching Buff

Requires: Dragon or Spiritual Beast

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Rally
Capacity
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
264.2254.8258.8
Skill (Awakened)13575100130
Specialty80605060
Skin
Covenant15510100
Skillbook25252512
Total519.2419.8443.8410
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 724.2
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1587.8
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1587.8

While inferior to Henry IV in Score 3, its massive march size results in extremely high damage, surpassing Henry IV in Score 1.

It is significantly weakened when reinforcing allied castles. (See Section B for details)

4. Olav II

Marching Buff

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Rally
Capacity
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
258256.8262
Skill (Awakened)13575115100
Specialty80554560
Skin
Covenant15101080
Skillbook25252512
Total513421.8457360
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 693
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1571.8
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1571.8

While inferior to Henry IV at Score 3, its large march size results in high damage, and it surpasses Henry IV at Score 1.

It is significantly weakened when reinforcing allied castles. (See Section B for details)

5. Hermes

Basic Buff

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Rally
Capacity
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
261255.4258.4
Skill (Awakened)10570120120
Specialty705020160
Skin
Covenant101010100
Skillbook25252512
Total471410.4433.4500
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 721
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1564.8
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1564.8

Possesses an extremely large march size.
Consequently, its damage output is exceptionally high, surpassing Henry IV at Score 1.

Since most of the buffs are “basic buffs”, he is hardly weakened when he is used as reinforcements to allied castles or a wall defender. (See Section B for details.)

However, maximally developing it as a main general is generally not recommended for most players.
Acquisition is relatively difficult, making it extremely challenging to reach Red Star 5
In this regard, I think it is designed to be used as an assistant.
(Best of Assistant Generals: Mounted PvP)

Table (All mounted generals / Marching)

Rank
Generals
Buff
Type
Atk
Def
HP
March
Size
Rally Capacity
Debuff
Skillbook Limit
Covenant
Buff
Score1:
A+MS*5
Score2:
+D+HP
Score3:
+Debuff
1Henry IVBasic522.8480.6475.6300Included672.816291629
2Stephen I of HungaryMarch541470.6464300Included6911625.61625.6
3Louis XIV
(+Dragon or Spiritual Beast)
March519.2419.8443.8410Included724.21587.81587.8
4Olav IIMarch513421.8457360Included6931571.81571.8
5HermesBasic471410.4433.4500Included7211564.81564.8
6Artemis (+Skin)March538.6460470170Ground HP -10%Included623.61553.61563.6
7Marco PoloMarch538.4378.4400410Ground Def & HP -10%
Mounted Def & HP -10%
Included743.41521.81561.8
8Mouri MotonariBasic487.8452.8406400Included687.81546.61546.6
9Artemis (No Skin)March538.6460455170Included623.61538.61538.6
10Haakon HaraldssonBasic476.2440.4397.8410Included681.21519.41519.4
11Napoleon (Prime)
(+Dragon) (+Skin)
March510.2428.8359250Ranged Atk -15%
Siege Atk -15%
Ground HP -20%
Included635.214231473
12Cheng YaojinBasic463.6404.8349510can’t attach AtkIncluded718.61472.41472.4
13George Monck
(+Dragon or Spiritual Beast)
March535412.4423.6200Included63514711471
14Washington (Prime)Basic450.4370.6419.4430Included665.41455.41455.4
15Napoleon (Prime)
(+Dragon) (No Skin)
March500.2428.8359250Ranged Atk -15%
Siege Atk -15%
Included625.214131443
16Hestia
(+Dragon or Spiritual Beast)
March474.4442.4387220Included584.41413.81413.8
17Andre MassenaBasic444.4421.2316.6300Ranged Atk -10%
Siege Atk -10%
can’t attach AtkIncluded594.41332.21352.2
18Jayavarman IIMarch463.8382.8419.6170Included548.81351.21351.2
19Beowulf
(vs Monster)
March461.4371.8382.8260Included591.413461346
20PoligenusMarch450.6391.6370.8220560.613231323
21Maximilian IMarch388.6352326.6260All type Atk -10%
Ranged Atk -20%
Ranged Def -30%
518.61197.21287.2
22Beowulf
(when PvP)
March395.4371.8372.8260Included525.412701270
23Ii NaomasaBasic357.2305.6433.4260All type HP -10%can’t attach Atk487.21226.21266.2
24LaudonBasic410.8376.2348.4260can’t attach Atk540.81265.41265.4
25RolandMarch400.8364339.4280Ranged Atk -20%540.81244.21264.2
26Gaius OctaviusMarch399.2322.4357320559.21238.61238.6
27Prince EugeneBasic379.6347.2347300can’t attach Atk529.61223.81223.8
28Zhao YunMarch433.4354.2340.8188523.41218.41218.4
29Bertrand du GuesclinMarch390.8334355.6260520.81210.41210.4
30George A. CusterMarch414.2331353.2228524.21208.41208.4
31BarbarossaMarch367.8334.2362286March Size can
attach Lv4 only
507.812041204
32LysanderMarch408.8337325.42615538.81201.21201.2
33Yue FeiMarch371.6313.2330320Mounted Atk -20%531.61174.81194.8
34MordredMarch429.6349.23461210489.61184.81184.8
35Sun CeBasic419.2373.4301.4188509.211841184
36HannibalMarch417.2316378128477.21171.21171.2
37Honda TadakatsuBasic314.8322.2372126Ground HP -15%
Mounted HP -30%
Mounted Def -15%
All type Def -10%
374.810691169
38Roberto GuisgardBasic341.8313.4332.6280Ground Def -15%
Mounted Def -15%
can’t attach Atk481.81127.81157.8
39Martinus (+Dragon)
(+Skin)
Basic430.8303.8348126can’t attach Atk490.81142.61142.6
40Cyrus the GreatMarch375294312.43205351141.41141.4
41King Arthur
(After enhancement
on 2/16/2024)
March345.2332309.4258All type Atk -6%can’t attach
March Size
470.21111.61135.6
42Wei QingBasic352.4285.4300.8280Ground Atk -25%
Mounted Atk -25%
492.41078.61128.6
43Martinus (+Dragon)
(No Skin)
Basic420.8288.8348126can’t attach Atk480.81117.61117.6
44Ulysses S. Grant (+Dragon)Basic369.4306.2282320529.41117.61117.6
45Basil IIMarch375.4319316.4128All type Atk -10%435.41070.81110.8
46Li JingBasic384.2315.6325.6126can’t attach Atk444.21085.41085.4
47Takeda ShingenBasic353.4302.6308.2220463.41074.21074.2
48El Cid (+Dragon)March374.8317.2318.6128434.81070.61070.6
49WashingtonBasic331.8314306220can’t attach Atk441.81061.81061.8
50KhalidBasic325.8276.4305.8220435.810181018


B) for Reinforce (to ally’s keep) & Wall Defender

When a reinforcement to alliance member’s city, or a wall defender, the “marching buff” (“when General is leading the army to attack” buff) is disabled.
(details: Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide)

NOTE: When a reinforcement to “Building”, the “marching buff” is enabled. See section A.

Reinforcement to an alliance member’s city

Overall Rating

For reinforcements (to ally’s keep) & wall defense (dual role with attacker), I recommend Henry IV.

Then, Mouri Motonari, Haakon Haraldsson, Cheng Yaojin.

Hermes is quite good, but I would recommend making him assistants rather than main generals. He is difficult to obtain and very difficult to make red stars.

1. Hermes

Basic Buff

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
261255.4258.4
Skill (Awakened)1057012012
Specialty70502016
Skin
Covenant20101010
Skillbook25252512
Total481410.4433.450
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 731
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1574.8
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1574.8

He is not weakened at all.

2. Henry IV

Basic Buff

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
262.8255.6265.6
Skill (Awakened)1151001008
Specialty7565650
Skin
Covenant10101010
Skillbook25252512
Total487.8455.6465.630
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 637.8
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1559
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1559

He is not much weaker than in the case of marches and rallies.

3. Mouri Motonari

Basic Buff

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
262.8252.8261
Skill (Awakened)110105908
Specialty75552010
Skin
Covenant5151010
Skillbook25252512
Total477.8452.840640
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 677.8
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1536.6
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1536.6

He is not much weaker than in the case of marches and rallies.

4. Haakon Haraldsson

Basic Buff

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
266.2255.4262.8
Skill (Awakened)9580905
Specialty70701016
Skin
Covenant510108
Skillbook25252512
Total461.2440.4397.841
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 666.2
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1504.4
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1504.4

He is not much weaker than in the case of marches and rallies.

5. Cheng Yaojin

Basic Buff

Mounted Buff (%)
AtkDefHPMarch
Size
Debuff
by Stats (Lv50
/ 5 Red Star
/ Cultivate +500)
283.6264.8244
Skill (Awakened)90706010
Specialty70351021
Skin
Covenant1010108
Skillbook0252512
Total453.6404.834951
  • Score 1 (Atk + MS (x5)): 708.6
  • Score 2 (Score1 + Def + HP): 1462.4
  • Score 3 (Score2 + Debuff): 1462.4

He is not much weaker than in the case of marches and rallies.

Table (All mounted generals / Reinforcing)

Rank
Generals
Buff Type
Atk
Def
HP
March Size
Debuff
Skillbook Limit
Covenant
Buff
Scoe1:
A+MS*5
Score2:
+D+HP
Score3:
+Debuff
1HermesBasic481410.4433.450Included7311574.81574.8
2Henry IVBasic487.8455.6465.630Included637.815591559
3Mouri MotonariBasic477.8452.840640Included677.81536.61536.6
4Haakon HaraldssonBasic461.2440.4397.841Included666.21504.41504.4
5Cheng YaojinBasic453.6404.834951can’t attach AtkIncluded708.61462.41462.4
6Washington (Prime)Basic440.4370.6419.443Included655.41445.41445.4
7Andre MassenaBasic424.4421.2316.630Ranged Atk -5%
Siege Atk -5%
can’t attach AtkIncluded574.41312.21322.2
8Ii NaomasaBasic357.2305.6433.426All type HP -10%can’t attach Atk487.21226.21266.2
9LaudonBasic390.8376.2348.426can’t attach Atk520.81245.41245.4
10Marco PoloMarch338.4313.429041Ground Def & HP -10%
Mounted Def & HP -10%
Included543.41146.81186.8
11Sun CeBasic409.2373.4301.418499.211741174
12Beowulf
(when PvP)
March355.4346.8337.826Included485.411701170
13Honda TadakatsuBasic314.8322.237212Ground HP -15%
Mounted HP -30%
Mounted Def -15%
All type Def -10%
374.810691169
14Prince EugeneBasic334.6337.233730can’t attach Atk484.61158.81158.8
15Roberto GuisgardBasic331.8313.4332.628Ground Def -15%
Mounted Def -15%
can’t attach Atk471.81117.81147.8
16Maximilian IMarch328.6297291.626All type Atk -10%
Ranged Atk -20%
Ranged Def -30%
458.61047.21137.2
17Hestia
(+Dragon or Spiritual Beast)
March369.4327.432722Included479.41133.81133.8
18Louis XIV
(+Dragon or Spiritual Beast)
March314.2304.8303.841Included519.21127.81127.8
19Martinus (+Dragon)
(+Skin)
Basic410.8303.834812can’t attach Atk470.81122.61122.6
20Wei QingBasic342.4285.4300.828Ground Atk -25%
Mounted Atk -25%
482.41068.61118.6
21Jayavarman IIMarch350.8322.8354.617Included435.81113.21113.2
22Ulysses S. Grant (+Dragon)Basic359.4306.228232519.41107.61107.6
23Gaius OctaviusMarch329.2287.432232489.21098.61098.6
24Martinus (+Dragon)
(No Skin)
Basic400.8288.834812can’t attach Atk460.81097.61097.6
25Stephen I of HungaryMarch341300.630430Included4911095.61095.6
26Olav IIMarch313301.829736Included4931091.81091.8
27Napoleon (Prime)
(+Dragon) (+Skin)
March310.2308.829425Ranged Atk -15%
Siege Atk -15%
Ground HP -20%
Included435.210381088
28RolandMarch330.8309284.428Ranged Atk -20%470.81064.21084.2
29Yue FeiMarch311.6288.230032Mounted Atk -20%471.61059.81079.8
30LysanderMarch343.8297305.426473.81076.21076.2
31Takeda ShingenBasic353.4302.6308.222463.41074.21074.2
32George A. CusterMarch329.2301328.222439.21068.41068.4
33Napoleon (Prime)
(+Dragon) (No Skin)
March310.2308.829425Ranged Atk -15%
Siege Atk -15%
Included435.210381068
34PoligenusMarch345.6316.6295.822455.610681068
35Li JingBasic364.2315.6325.612can’t attach Atk424.21065.41065.4
36WashingtonBasic331.831430622can’t attach Atk441.81061.81061.8
37Cyrus the GreatMarch315284302.4324751061.41061.4
38Bertrand du GuesclinMarch310.8294325.626440.81060.41060.4
39Artemis (+Skin)March338.632030017Ground HP -10%Included423.61043.61053.6
40Zhao YunMarch353.4309.2295.818443.41048.41048.4
41Artemis (No Skin)March338.632030017Included423.61043.61043.6
42George Monck
(+Dragon or Spiritual Beast)
March340292.4288.620Included44010211021
43KhalidBasic325.8276.4305.822435.810181018
44BarbarossaMarch281.8273.230128March Size can
attach Lv4 only
421.8996996
45Basil IIMarch315.4284296.412All type Atk -10%375.4955.8995.8
46King Arthur
(After enhancement
on 2/16/2024)
March275.2277289.425All type Atk -6%can’t attach
March Size
400.2966.6990.6
47MordredMarch314.6309.229612374.6979.8979.8
48HannibalMarch311.228631212371.2969.2969.2
49El Cid (+Dragon)March319.8292.2288.612379.8960.6960.6


Note

Weaknesses of Stephen I, Louis XIV, Olav II, Artemis, etc.

They can be considered the best general only when attacking (marching), but when reinforcing (alliance member’s city), or defending main city (on wall), his performance drops significantly.

If you are using them as your main general, some players may need to train a separate general for reinforcements.

(However, if you can’t maximize the 4th specialty, it may not be such a problem for some people.)

Note – The following cases are no problem. Attack buffs (march buffs) are applied.

– When participating in a rally / starting a rally by yourself
– When sending reinforcements / defending / attacking an occupied building on the map (Portal, Temple, etc.)

Detailed explanation: Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide

Related – Other Recommended Generals

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Best Generals (& Combinations)

Recommended generals are summarized by role, such as battle-oriented and development-oriented.

Recommended Main Generals

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Recommended Assistant Generals
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As someone who recently picked up Henry IV, it’s interesting to see that you have him ranked so highly. Seems many others are lower on him due to his smaller march size. Am I right that you are a little less concerned with march size, generally, than some others are?

No.

The rankings on this page are based on the performance of the main general ALONE.

Isn’t the ranking you saw based on the combined performance with assistants?
In that case, Henry IV might rank lower since he cannot be paired with Hermes (who has an extra-large march size).

Could you share the URL for the ranking you saw?

Anonymous

Hey, just a few places, e.g., Red Evony, a couple other youtube pages, etc. They seem to value the individual march sizes of some other generals more than Henry’s greater attack/def/HP stats. I don’t think any were based on pairings.

Even here, Louis XIV has 11% more march size. That seems sizable (and thus his greater Score 1). And it seems like a few people I’ve seen or talked to in the game value march size above all. To be clear, I’m not arguing with your rankings (I pulled the trigger on Henry as my main Mounted PvP general, so obviously I wasn’t holding out for a gen with greater march size), and I really like his buffs. Just wondering your opinion on march size + lesser buffs v. better buffs v. lesser march size

Anonymous

Checking again it was Red Evony, Evony Academy, and a post or two on reddit.

I have confirmed that what you refer to as “low evaluation by others” is not a comparison based on combination results.

In Red Evony, the basis for the low evaluation appears to be solely the march size, and it is not explicitly stated whether damage values, defense, or HP were also considered. However, I assume it is based solely on damage, without considering defense or HP. If defense and HP were factored in, a low evaluation would be impossible.

Evony Academy’s criteria resemble mine: a low rating occurs only when comparing damage values alone. When defense and HP are factored in, this is not the case.

Ultimately, your claim of “low evaluation by others” refers to my article’s Score 1 scenario, so I believe their perspective aligns with mine.
As outlined in the Assumptions section, the rankings in this article are listed with a score 3.

>march size + lesser buffs v. better buffs v. lesser march size

That’s an extreme argument. You can’t simply say one is superior.

For example, in attack, the larger the attack buff, the greater the “boost effect” on damage values from increased march size.

In other words, which is superior depends on the march size value and the values of other buffs.

For example, take Cheng Zhijie and Washington Prime against Henry IV. Both have smaller attack buffs than Henry IV but larger march sizes.
However, when comparing damage output, Cheng Zhijie outperforms Henry IV, while Washington Prime falls short.

Anonymous

Thank you for the detailed response and again, let me say I am not trying to argue or over-simplify. You’re my go-to source for everything Evony and I’m trying to do a better job of understanding methodology used by more experienced players. One question about the Cheng example you gave: If I could only choose one of Cheng and Henry IV to develop (and for this exercise, not worrying about who they might pair with), am I right that you’d recommend Henry over Cheng even though Cheng outperforms Henry IV in damage output, because of Henry’s HP and Def advantage? Or in other words, should the decision be decided by Score 3?

Thank you, again, for all the awesome work you do.

I apologize if I came across as intimidating. I’m simply trying to be as concise as possible.

Now, should you prioritize Score 3 or Score 1? That depends entirely on your values and circumstances.

When attacking an enemy castle with cavalry. This varies by player style, but you might attack even if the enemy castle still has archers.

For example, when trying to take down an enemy T1 cavalry castle. A situation where the enemy still has archers, but your current siege buff makes it difficult to reduce their numbers further. You’ve used Low Tier archers to weaken the enemy’s high-tier cavalry, but many enemy infantry remain, making it hard to gain positive points with Low Tier archer attacks. You want to use a Low Tier cavalry march to weaken the high-tier infantry. (Even if the enemy still has archers, this tactic can be somewhat effective. Depending on the buff difference.) etc.

In this case, having more durable cavalry increases the potential to defeat more infantry.

It also increases your chances of winning when attacked by enemy archer marches with slightly weaker buffs than yours, or conversely, when you attack them.

I do not underestimate such scenarios, which is why I rank them as Score 3 in this article.

However, if you do not prioritize such scenarios, I believe focusing on the ranking for Score 1 would be preferable.

yasin.bashir

Hello, why is there no Persian language in the settings menu?!?

Anonymous

Hi, I want to share my personal calculations on march size buff.
Everybody says that is very important and I agree.
I am considering it like the percent of troops you can add, so for example if is 10% march size increse you can consider 10% more attack + 10% more hp + 10% more defense.
I think this calculations are not distant from the real mechanics behind an evony battle.

CL2p_1291

Could you show the ascension of Sanada Yukimura in the attacking table when marching against monsters?

The specs were enhanced on 2024/2/16, but it doesn’t rank at all. 😓 Even at maximum development, it is still too weak.
(Especially critical is the almost non-existent growth due to specialties)
I continue to not recommend it.

Even if the comparison is made under the conditions of no specialties and no red stars, it is still very subtle because the March size skill book cannot be attached.

However, when used as an assistant, if you compare it without specialty, it is relatively excellent.

Александр

hello, sorry I didn’t know where to ask this question, please tell me which equipment is better to use When a large number of t1 horsemen are used as defense, and which wall generals are better to use.Thank you in advance for your help

It depends on how much emphasis you place on t1 cavalry, how much you deemphasize high level cavalry, what kind of enemies you are likely to encounter, and what kind of enemies you are likely to counter.

If you are defending with a lot of t1 cavalry & almost no high level troops, the equipment should be an all achaemenidae all cavalry flat-refine. This is because in this case the %-refine is not very important.

If you have a lot of high level troops of all types, ideally all civilization equipment, some achaemenidae if it is difficult. Armor & Leg armor should be cavalry HP flat-refine.
Reference
Civilization Equipment – Recommended Combinations
Red Equipment Combination List (Which Should You Make?)

For t1 cavalry defense, any defense generals can be used. I would say Boudica if I had to, but it is not a dramatic advantage. The reason is that in t1 defense, %-refine is not so important. (Raising Boudica does not increase flat-refine.)
Rather, Boudica is weak except for mounted troops, which is not recommended if you have a lot of high level troops of all types.

Hey, just found an error in a value by chance. Lysander has +10% rally size instead of +5%.
But aside from that, thank you again so much for your great wiki!!

What is the best combination for wall defense of we use J J (George) and who should be his assistant general?
And he work for T1 cav defense???

Dünya boss için saldırı vuruşumu arttırmak için 1nci general ne olmalı yardımcı general ne olmali

Thanks for the article. I do believe there is still merit in distinguishing between paying a lot and paying little. The big difference is not necessarily in terms of ability to obtain the general (although I would argue there is still a gap there, for example Bertrand Du Guesclin which I have not seen available as part of any event), but in the ability to develop all four specialities to its maximum. It is very unlikely that I will be able to do that, developing the fist three to Grandmaster is probably as far as I will be able to get.

It’s a subtle point. I don’t think there is any need to force a change.
Hannibal is easy to red-star but has no good assistants, and Martinus is the opposite (not easy, even though you can get him at the tavern).
However, if you can’t tolerate weakening during reinforcements, then Martinus is a good choice.

Anonymous

Thank you for your articles.
My question is, when an assistant is added and the same cavalry type general is used in PVP, after adding cavalry attack, defense, HP, and speed, what skill would you recommend adding one more?

B H Maverick server #899

I got custer last night and was able to add the mounted troop attack to him.

I can second this. Definitely able to add a mounted attack skillbook to Custer.

I got it from an epic general in a battlefield shop.

Hi, always thank you for precious information and opinion. I remember that you recommend mounted hp skills for martinus(So I added it for my martinus). But now I can see that you changed to recommend mounted defense skill. Can I ask the reason..? Thanks.

Can I ask about skills?
I want to know the reason why you recommned mounted hp skill than mounted defense skill?
Becasue I already added defence skill in my martinus TT

Mær Ríoghain

Defense skill is not bad. It is the same as in any game where fighting takes place. Attack is your sword, Defense is your shield and HP is HP. If your attack is very high, the shield is unnecessary. When you attack, even with a shield, you lose HP. Higher HP will help lower wounded. I suggest Roland as your assistant general and try to add mounted HP. Mounted HP for monsters is even better If you do not use him for PVP.

You can also use a different general as the assistant for PVP. Yue Fei also has mounted HP. LV4 mounted attack can be added to Yue Fei but you must add 3 different skills first. Lv1 attack cannot be added, only lv4

I am the one who told you about Bertrand’s skill book earlier. Leadership 117 +8.91, Attack 118 +8.91 Defense 114 +8.86 Politics 109 +8.65. Does the fact that it says “when leading the attack” mean that he is not as good for reinforcements as Hannibal? Thank you very much for your continued study.

Anonymous

I was able to add the cavalry attack skills to Bertrand du Guesclin.

Thank you for all your help and reference. I was able to put a lvl 4 cavalry attack skill book on Bertrand du Guesclin.

mitsupini

I was lucky enough to get all three Hannibal, Martinus and Roland.
So, I delved in your article to make my final choice between the three.
Unfortunately we do not know how Defense and HP are used in the battle equation, so it is impossible to evaluate their contributions.
But still, based on the published values, I calculated the impact of their specialities taking into account their March Size buffs (e.g. 1 troop becomes 1.12 for Hannibal, and 1.18 for Roland).
T12 A Def HP
Mounted 10.989 8.199 21.652

Hannibal Martinus Roland Hannibal Martinus Roland
4 specialities 27.815 27.815 27.231 102% 102% 100%
10.101 10.101 13.061 100% 100% 129%
37.830 35.163 31.937 118% 110% 100%

3 specialities 23.385 22.154 23.989 106% 100% 108%
13.538 13.538 17.505 100% 100% 129%
14.769 17.846 16.209 100% 121% 110%

It is obvious that Roland is better with 3 specialities. But even with 4 specialities the differences look almost negligible.
So, I go with Roland, which for sure is better with 3 specialties. And even if I manage in the future to get all 4, I don’t lose much…I think.

mitsupini

sorry for the messy table,,,hope this time comes a little better
T12____ A Def HP
Mounted 10.989 8.199 21.652

4 specialities
Hannibal Martinus Roland Hannibal Martinus Roland
27.815 27.815 27.231 102% 102% 100% A
10.101 10.101 13.061 100% 100% 129% Def
37.830 35.163 31.937 118% 110% 100% HP

3 specialities
23.385 22.154 23.989 106% 100% 108% A
13.538 13.538 17.505 100% 100% 129% Def
14.769 17.846 16.209 100% 121% 110% HP

Anonymous

at 27 and using theodora (mounted attack/mounted attack against monster/luck) for bosses. Is bird of hurricane better (+10%) or level three celtic dragon? Assuming bird of hurricane and put dragon on pvp attacker, but unsure. any help appreciated!

I am wondering why Hannibal and Roland reverse places based on whether or not you coin. Can you clarify that please?

Rinku sarma

I have Martinus Hannibal and Roland, I want to know which one is no 1 , with all speciality unlocked.

I am at Lvl23 Keep. I just brought Li Jing up to 4 stars and L20, with Lvl4 Mounted HP, Lvl 4 Mounted Def and Lvl 3 Mounted Speed. Thought I was good.
Then today I got Martinus.
Do I focus on bring up Martinus and making him my guy? Or stick with Li Jing?

Kagznoid

Tengo una duda, creo que las habilidades de Wei Qing son distintas

> I have a doubt, I think Wei Qing’s skills are different.

I’ve checked and can’t find anything wrong.
If you are talking about the skill book, that is an example of use. There is no absolute correct answer.

Confused Person.

The ranking doesn’t make sense anymore since you added gens from relics to the no pay section. The order shouldn’t be different when gens appear in both sections.

As I wrote in the assumption.

A) no pay – only 3 Specialty
B) a lot of pay – 4 Specialty Maxed out

Therefore, the order should different.
The 4th specialty has a huge impact on the ranking. Also, many people cannot master this. (reason)
General rankings by most Youtubers and websites lack this perspective.

Why did you recommended add Speed cav skill book instead of HP skill book?

Why don’t you have Dmitry listed as a reinforcement general, with his “Hero of Don River” buff – Increase the ground troops’ defense and HP by 20% and ranged troops attack by 30% when General is leading the army to reinforce? He is the only general in the game with a reinforce buff, so wouldn’t it make sense to use him as reinforcement general?

This appears to be a rework of Dmitry with one of the latest updates to the game. I got him early on and just held on to him, but don’t recall him having this buff or skills previously.

BumbleBee

Hi, between Roland and Hannibal, who will be best for PvP and Boss? If so, is the difference much?

If you want only attack, it is as per the above ranking.
If you want double-item drops in boss hunting, both are inappropriate.

I also believe that it is impossible for one person to be both a PvP general and a Boss hunting general.
The reason for this is that the Boss hunting general needs to add skill to a “mounted troop attack against monster”. This is a skill that is completely unnecessary for a PvP general.

For more information, please refer to the following article.
Best of Boss General / Monster Hunter

BumbleBee

Thanks for the response mate. I should have framed my question better. My actual query was, between Roland and Hannibal, who would you groom for PvP and whom for boss. My opinion was Roland for PvP as he is bit well rounded and Hannibal for boss as his attack buffs are insane. Your thoughts please?

It’s the same for me.
For monster hunting, attack is the most important thing, so Hannibal.
For PvP, both are fine, but Roland is the choice by process of elimination.
(HP and defense are also important when fighting archers and siege, but Roland has better defense and Hannibal has better HP. (Skill/Attributes))

However, if you prefer PvP to monster hunting, I recommend Hannibal for PvP and Roland for monster hunting.

Hi. I am back with a question on the march size. In particular, what is the maximum march size only from the rally spot and research, at k30, k32 and k35 if possible? (Monarch’s horn, general’s skill and equipment are not taken into consideration)
Recently, when thinking about your suggestion of March size skill for general that cannot use skill of damage (Minamoto, Martinus, etc), I discover that at high level pvp battle, march size increase is better than damage percentage increase. However, as for monster hunter, maybe the necessary number of troop would not reach the maximum number that rally spot and research can provide. So I would be grateful if you can help me with those data.
Thank you so much.

I am so sorry. I read your article about March size again. It is not superior as I thought, though plays an important role still. So I think the answer is not necessary anymore. Sorry for disturbing you

The maximum values for march size, based on rally spot and research alone, are as follows
k30 – 660,000
k35 – 1,260,000

If other factors are added, most people will probably get the following. (If not using march size items)
k30 – around 760,000
k35 – around 1,400,000

Related articles: 10 ways to increase March Size

たろすけ

It would be great if you could give us an evaluation of Cyrus.

Added to the ranking.
I don’t think he is a very good cavalry general.
The focus is on cavalry + ranged troops, and it seems half-baked. 🤔

Hello, thank you for your excellent work, it has been very useful! I would like an opinion: I won my second general Martinus. I already have one developed for PVP (skillbooks) and I am thinking of developing the new one for monsters. So, I would sell my Li Jing (I also have 4 Baibars). Does having 2 Martinus, both with dragons, make any sense? Thanks

It depends on the following.🤔

– Which dragons you have.

– Which troop types you are focusing on and which ones you are discarding. Or not, you are raising generals of all troop types.

If you have the following dragons,

– Celtic Demon, Fafnir, Norway Ridge, and The Dragon of Thebes.

And if you are raising generals of all troop types, your dragons will have the following uses
– Ranged: Celtic Demon
– Mounted: Fafnir
– Defender: The Dragon of Thebes
– Ground: Norway Ridge

In this case, it would be better to assign the second Martinus a Hurricane Bird instead of a Dragon.

Please see also the following article.
Dragon Complete Guide – Type, Buff, Enhance

It’s not useless, but it’s hard to recommend it as the best cavalry general.
Please see the answer to a similar question below.

HI….so for mounted PVP, Takeda is better thn Li Jing? Wat abt monster hunting, who is better Takeda or Li?

If you want to increase the specialty to the maximum, Li Jing is the way to go. If you don’t, there is not much difference between the two.

This has been very helpful.
I don’t have enough information about Aethelflaed, and I think it is suitable for cavalry, but what do you think?

She is suitable for cavalry, but only for hunting monsters, not for PvP.
Also, if you assume that the specialty is maxed out and you use the mounted troop attack skillbook Lv4, her mounted troop attack will be +120%, which is inferior to Hannibal and Martinus (+126%).
(You can’t use the mounted troop attack against monsters skillbook on Aethelflaed.)
Therefore, it is not recommended to spend the cost and effort of specialty on Aethelflaed.

Miguel Ángel

Buenas aprendiendo mucho de la página
Consulta cuál es mejor para montado si tendría Takeda shingen y khalid …… Para poder mejorarlo por favor espero su respuesta gracias

>Good learning a lot from the page
Consultation which is better for mounted if I would have Takeda shingen and khalid …… To be able to improve it please I wait for your answer thank you
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If you want to raise the specialty, Takeda Shingen will have more mounted buffs.
If you don’t consider specialty, neither is much different.

Miguel Ángel

Buen día resien me tocó en la taberna los dos 2 y quiero saber cuál de es mejor para mostros jefes o los dos son para atacar castillos esa es mi duda soy nuevo aún …. nota que quiere decir de khalid ataqué aumentado en 20% y 20% puntos respectivamente

>Good morning, the two of them touched me in the tavern and I want to know which one is better for our bosses or both of them are for attacking castles. That is my question. I’m still new…. note what khalid means I attacked increased by 20% and 20% points respectively
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Good morning.😃 I don’t think they are the best, but both are suitable for boss battles and castle attacks.
However, if you want to increase the “specialty” of general in the future, Takeda Shingen is better than Khalid.
(But in that case, Martinus or Li Jing is better than them.)
“Specialty” is unlocked when the general’s level reaches 25. After that, you need to use a lot of items to raise it. It’s quite a challenge.
The “specialty” of each general can be found in their portraits in the tavern.
Related: Specialty Guide

アルタイル

Thank you for all your informative articles.
I have a question.
You have created articles on ranged generals, ground generals, and mounted generals, but is there any need for siege generals?
In the previous article on the roles of generals, there was no mention of a general who specializes in siege, so I was curious.
If there is a point to raising siege generals, it would be nice to have an article about it.
Thank you for your time.

KnightCrawler

Is there an area where you explain cultivating? I don’t understand why it minus some basic skills when I hit the button.

Takachan

I’m always learning from you. Thank you very much. Is Washington a bad general?

As I added to the article, if you don’t max out your specialty, he is pretty low rank. It’s also hard because of the low stats increase.
Even if you max out the specialty and use the skill book Lv4, he still has 81% cavalry attack (you can’t use the attack skill book), 35% HP, and 62% defense.
It’s hard to recommend him as the best general. 🤔

Assuming the specialty is maxed out, even if you use the skill book Lv4, it is only 91% mounted attack, 25% mounted HP, and 45% mounted defense.
Therefore, it is inferior to not only Roland, but also El Cid and Li Jing. It’s hard to recommend him as the best cavalry general. 🤔

Article has been updated. If the general’s specialty is assumed to be maxed out, he will not be included because the difference between him and the top generals is too great. If you only pay a little money, he is #1, but I believe it is conditional. Please refer to the special note for details. 😃

What about Li Jing? I can’t give him a skill book attack, but I can give him a march size.

As I added in the section on “A) If you only pay a little money”, if specialty is not taken into account, even if you add march size, it is inferior to Martinus and Barbarossa.
If you take specialty into account, it is still inferior to Martinus.
It’s hard for me to recommend him as the best general. 🤔

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