They stopped replying to me as well months ago. And if you haven't noticed, they stopped paying attention to the comment section altogether. You can continue to report this project to Kickstarter by scrolling to the bottom of the campaign page and clicking "report this project."
やけ
真・女神転生シリーズにえげつない泥塗ってますよ？
どうにかしてこのプロジェクト成功させないと本当にまずいんじゃないですか？
アトラスから制裁喰らいますよ？
HamsterBomb
I made sure that SEGA's legal team was made aware of this project. They're almost certainly beginning an investigation. Atlus absolutely would care to know their brand is being dragged through the mud for money.
Deep
It feels like they’re just going to keep delaying things and run off with 100 million yen. Wouldn’t that be a crime?
Will production only start next year? Is this a bad dream? What have they been doing for the entire past year?
This incident will likely become the worst event that drags Japan’s reputation to rock bottom.
Ian MacColl
Setting up a cheesecake business.... I wish I was joking but that's legit what they're doing instead of this, wonder where the money for their new business venture came from.
Dane Tripp-Peters
Okay, so all that's happened in the LAST YEAR has been design changes??
Outside of the the player board you showed us a while ago, which almost everyone agreed it was WORSE than what you showed before.
We have nothing else, no main board, no figures, not even a rulebook. And it's already funded!
Please give us ACTUAL progress updates, what have you done?? All you have done for a while now, is show us a worse player board months ago, and told us it's delayed again. I'm not surprised.
HamsterBomb
I would like to publicly declare that I have personally alerted SEGA/Atlus about the gross mishandling of their IP during this past year by ICREA. They will be looking into this matter soon. Help them by sharing your concerns here.
HamsterBomb
I am now fully convinced this was a scam. We need to start a class action lawsuit.
d5702
So you raised nearly 100 million yen through crowdfunding,
and after all these months, you still haven’t even started actual production?
Believing in a company like yours makes me feel like a complete joke.
It's been 2 months since the last update and a year since the campaign has ended. Where's the game, where's the rulebook, where's the figures. Update us and give us an actual estimate for delivery.
If you go to the Campaign tab, at the bottom past all the project details you can report the project. Perhaps if enough people do it, some action will be taken.
It's been 2 months since an update on a project that was funded a year ago and has significantly changed its design elements. That's reason enough to raise eyebrows.
Ian MacColl
Plus it's been almost a year since the campaign launched, and 7 months beyond their initial delivery date. In all that time, what have they done? Redesign a box, player boards, and cards, and it's pretty unanimous that it's a worse design, with the feedback of poor translation and seperate designs for English, and Japanese cards being ignored.
Seriously, 7 months - 1 year, and that's all they've done. They said back in May they were having the figures printed off and would check the standards of them. 6 months later and no production pics, not even an update about them.
I reported it when it was still open, and listed my numerous concerns to kickstarter cause I seen this mess coming. They shrugged it off, and with Icrea not stepping up to show they care before the funding period ending, I dropped my pledge.
So sadly I can't imagine Kickstarter doing anything, but hope they would.
catofulthar
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Update #24：デザイン更新に関するご報告
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game/posts/4483012
ご確認いただけますと幸いでございます。
日本人は文句言っても行動起こさないから楽しくて仕方ないだろうなぁｗ
ちなみにこのコメント欄で送った長文のコメントをHamsterBomb様からのアドバイスで直接クリエイターの欄からメッセージで送ってますが、その返信も返ってきておりません。
また、あまりに返事が遅いので2回送ってます。
They stopped replying to me as well months ago. And if you haven't noticed, they stopped paying attention to the comment section altogether. You can continue to report this project to Kickstarter by scrolling to the bottom of the campaign page and clicking "report this project."
真・女神転生シリーズにえげつない泥塗ってますよ？
どうにかしてこのプロジェクト成功させないと本当にまずいんじゃないですか？
アトラスから制裁喰らいますよ？
I made sure that SEGA's legal team was made aware of this project. They're almost certainly beginning an investigation. Atlus absolutely would care to know their brand is being dragged through the mud for money.
It feels like they’re just going to keep delaying things and run off with 100 million yen. Wouldn’t that be a crime?
楽しみにしてたから気長に待ってたけど、発送予定が近づいた頃にいきなり「2026年発送に延期」は不誠実にも程がありますね...
頑張って作っているのを信じたい気持ちも消え失せたので、生成AIに相談して返金要請を進めようと思います。
https://gatolynx.tokyo/geek/kickstarter-chageback/
https://soplog.skr.jp/amp/other/kickstarter-cahrgeback-lumonitor/index.html
生成AIはしばしば間違った答えを自信満々に吐き出すので一応こちらを。
キックスターターで返金依頼をされた方の記録の例になります。
@catofulthar
ご親切に感謝いたします。
ルールを確認して色々準備しても、返金されたらラッキーくらいに思っていた方がいいかもしれませんね...
軽い気持ちでお金を出してしまった自分も悪いので反省です。
またスケジュールについては、アップデート #7にてお伝えしました通り、2025年内の発送を目指して進行しております。
ご支援いただいている皆様を長らくお待たせしておりますこと、重ね重ねお詫び申し上げます。
今後も「今、どの部分に取り組んでいるか」「どこまで進んでいるか」といった具体的な情報および進捗、予定変更等について随時アップデート内にて情報更新を行って参ります。
7月18日時点でこのように書かれていましたが何度読み返しても一つも守られてなくて面白いですね
ここのコメント欄のアップデート更新のお知らせすら変えないのは流石に面白い。
X←更新しない
youtube←更新しない
ボードゲーム←完成しない
コメント欄←返信しない
凄いね…
2026年とか濁さずにきちんとした製作ロードマップ出して下さいね
年末の長期休暇で遊ぼうと思っていたのに。。
延期をするなら事前に連絡が欲しいです。それとも本当に年内に発送できるのでしょうか？
11月の決算を終えたと思いますので会社法に基づいて決算公告をお願いするのはどうでしょうか。
今回のようなクラウドファンディングであれば貸借対照表では収益もしくは負債としても前受金と見なされると思いますので融資による借入金とは異なるかと思います。
https://x.com/boardgamercom/status/1995207230292193601?s=46&t=INVSmm6IaxPxzVQ7nPv7IA
こちらのツイートによると全国各地で「ゲームから食への業界転換」と銘打って説明会を開いているようです。ここ数年ろくな新商品もない中全く違う業界での新事業に注ぎ込める原資など本プロジェクト以外にないでしょうから、海外勢の方も言われている通り法的アクション、あるいはクレジットカード会社への連絡を始めた方がいいと思われます。会社のプレスリリースやTwitterにも載せていないあたり極めて悪質としか言いようがありません。
Will production only start next year? Is this a bad dream? What have they been doing for the entire past year?
This incident will likely become the worst event that drags Japan’s reputation to rock bottom.
Setting up a cheesecake business.... I wish I was joking but that's legit what they're doing instead of this, wonder where the money for their new business venture came from.
Okay, so all that's happened in the LAST YEAR has been design changes??
Outside of the the player board you showed us a while ago, which almost everyone agreed it was WORSE than what you showed before.
We have nothing else, no main board, no figures, not even a rulebook. And it's already funded!
Please give us ACTUAL progress updates, what have you done?? All you have done for a while now, is show us a worse player board months ago, and told us it's delayed again. I'm not surprised.
I would like to publicly declare that I have personally alerted SEGA/Atlus about the gross mishandling of their IP during this past year by ICREA. They will be looking into this matter soon. Help them by sharing your concerns here.
I am now fully convinced this was a scam. We need to start a class action lawsuit.
So you raised nearly 100 million yen through crowdfunding,
and after all these months, you still haven’t even started actual production?
Believing in a company like yours makes me feel like a complete joke.
アップデート25のコメントにも書きましたが、この一年間の進捗と引き延ばす１年の予定内容を明確にしてください。
すでに延長した一年間の成果が「デザインの変更予定」のみでしかないことから、ただ延長する、との言葉だけではイクリエ側には信用がないです。
最近、アップデートがないと思ったらやっぱり更新されてなかったかぁ…
デザイン更新って、いまだに上流工程が終わってないって事だよね…
もうアップデート更新する気がないんですかね。。
2か月以上音沙汰なしですから、最低限アップデートの予定があればその日程を教えてほしいです。
訴えを起こそうという声も上がってきています。
支援者の不安やプロジェクトに対する不信感は日に日に増している状況です。
このような状況でまずあなたたちがやるべきは現状についての説明です。
どんなことがうまくいっていて、うまくいっていないか。
うまくいっていないところをどのように解決しようとしているか。
などなど、これまでのような「鋭意制作中です。」的な内容でなく、より具体性をもって説明しなければならないと思います。
よい報告でも悪い報告でも、まずは真摯な態度をもって支援者に報告してほしいです。
対応を後回しにすればするほど支援者の信頼を損ねていること、そろそろ危機感を覚えられたほうがいいかと思います。
It's been 2 months since the last update and a year since the campaign has ended. Where's the game, where's the rulebook, where's the figures. Update us and give us an actual estimate for delivery.
あと１ヶ月とちょっとか…
製作段階の報告も全くなく、延期のお知らせも全くないですから、よほど完成に自信があると考えられます。
必ず年内に届くと思うと楽しみですね‼
他のオリジナルボードゲームを多数作ってる会社のプロジェクトで印刷会社に入稿してからだいたい平均4ヶ月でプレッジ発送開始ですが、
このプロジェクトはボードやカードだけではなくフィギュアの作製もあるので入稿してから4ヶ月以上かかってもおかしくないと思うのですが、本当に年内発送予定は変わらないですか？
絶対無理ですよね？笑
無理なら無理って早めにアップデートで報告しないとダメでしょ
年末に友人とプレイするのを予定してましたが残念この上ないです。
どうやら本日11/13、約2か月ぶりにログインされたようですので、以降2.3日になんらかのアクションがあることを期待します。
どのような発言・アップデートであっても、少なからず批判があることを覚悟と理解の上での行動を望みます。
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あと２ヶ月切ったのか～
届くの楽しみだな～
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If you go to the Campaign tab, at the bottom past all the project details you can report the project. Perhaps if enough people do it, some action will be taken.
It's been 2 months since an update on a project that was funded a year ago and has significantly changed its design elements. That's reason enough to raise eyebrows.
Plus it's been almost a year since the campaign launched, and 7 months beyond their initial delivery date. In all that time, what have they done? Redesign a box, player boards, and cards, and it's pretty unanimous that it's a worse design, with the feedback of poor translation and seperate designs for English, and Japanese cards being ignored.
Seriously, 7 months - 1 year, and that's all they've done. They said back in May they were having the figures printed off and would check the standards of them. 6 months later and no production pics, not even an update about them.
I reported it when it was still open, and listed my numerous concerns to kickstarter cause I seen this mess coming. They shrugged it off, and with Icrea not stepping up to show they care before the funding period ending, I dropped my pledge.
So sadly I can't imagine Kickstarter doing anything, but hope they would.
There’s a little problem for buckets actively check and comments. Kickstarter only receive a report only once.