Revisiting Hamilton's 5-MeO-DMT synthesis
Hello again everyone, thank you so much for the help on my last post about this synthesis.
I decided I would re-try this reaction with some small changes that I believed could make this reaction easier to monitor, or more accessible, or higher yielding. I have some solid experience making alkylated tryptamines in the past through a variety of different routes, so why not. I am a very hands on learner, so I am doing this with the hope that it will be more accessible to people like me, who have difficulty with the small nuances of reaction protocols. Also I must add that all of this was performed in Mexico, just like Hamilton, where 5-MeO-DMT is legal.
For my previous post on this topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheeHive/comments/lhscen/hamilton_morris_synthesis_of_5meodmt/
Begin Writeup: 5.95g (26.25 mmol) of 5-MeO-Tryptamine HCL was added to a 3-neck round bottom flask with a thermocouple inserted into the middle neck, and dissolved in 150 mL MeOH. Crushed KOH pellets were added to convert the tryptamine salt to the freebase form (pH ~9). MeOH and dry ice were placed in a bath below the flask, and the mixture was allowed to cool to between -15 and -20 degrees Celsius. 5.0g NaBH4 (132.15 mmol) was dissolved in 12.5 mL of a 3% aqueous KOH solution and placed in the freezer to cool to below 15 degrees Celsius. A second solution of 37% aqueous formaldehyde stabilized by 12% methanol was placed in the freezer to cool below 15 degrees.
Once cooled, both solutions were added to addition funnels and the dropwise addition of both solutions began. Due to stoichiometric and mechanistic concerns, the formaldehyde solution was added at twice the rate of the borohydride solution (See my previous post for helpful comments explaining why this is).The temperature of the reaction during this addition should be monitored closely, as the formation and subsequent reduction of the imine is an exothermic process. After both additions were complete, the reaction mixture was allowed to continue stirring, with additional dry ice and methanol added to the bath containing the reaction flask to maintain reaction temperatures between -15 and -20 degrees. In the snippet of his show, I believe Hamilton says to just below 0 degrees, and this initially confused me, but I cannot stress enough that this reaction should be kept below -15. Just trust me. Your yield and reaction specificity is greatly aided by the reduced temperature.
The reaction was periodically monitored by TLC, by removing an aliquot of the reaction mixture, adding a small amount of water, and then extracting this aliquot with a small amount of ether, and then spotting the ether layer against 5-MeO-Tryptamine freebase. This was originally one of my main gripes with the original synthesis, as the solvent system used in the show produced non-ideal separation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qipKKBmY_LQ timestamp 2:25) which caused me to quench my reaction prematurely the first time this reaction was ran. From previous experience, I know that 8:2 CHCl3/MeOH is an excellent solvent system for tryptamine compounds, so this was what I used. It may not be the perfect solvent system, but when combined with a few drops of NH4OH, the separation between the methylated and non-methylated tryptamine was more than adequate (Rf difference of ~0.3).
After running for 2 hs, the TLC showed no more consumption of the starting material, so a small amount (0.25g) of NaBH4 was added to see if the reaction would proceed further. At 3 h, the starting material spot had decreased a small amount, and at 4 h the consumption of the starting material had stopped once again. Hamilton mentions the possibility of spots for both the N-methyl 5-MeO-Tryptamine and the Pictet-Spengler cyclization product 6-MeO-THBC, but like him I only observed spots for the 5-MeO-Tryptamine and 5-MeO-DMT.
In order to not alter the process of the reaction any further, no further formaldehyde or NaBH4 were added, and the reaction was allowed to warm to room temperature. The MeOH was stripped from the reaction and the residue was resuspended in water, and extracted with CHCl3. The use of extraction solvent was another part of the reaction which deviated from Hamiltons approach, as previously published (see last post) papers had found chloroform to be more efficient than ethyl acetate, but ethyl acetate can be used to keep the reaction green or if chloroform is not readily available. I am not sure why the tryptamine was not entirely consumed, as the ratio of reagents that were used matched those used in Hamiltons' show, and he saw complete transformation of the starting material. I can only assume that the reagents I have are of a lesser quality (old) or that I kept the NaBH4 in the freezer for too long, and that it had lost some of its potency by the time I had added it. But I digress.
The CHCl3 was removed under vacuum and the resulting brown-pink oil was dried under reduced pressure. I have found that the presence of a pink color in the product tends to signify some amount of 5-MeO-Tryptamine still remaining. The weight of the dry oil was 5.8 grams before any purification. After sitting over the weekend at room temperature, some delicate tan crystals appeared in the oil. Attempts at removing the solid from the oil were unsuccessful, so column chromatography was employed now that a suitable solvent system with acceptable separation had been found. 8:2 CHCl3/MeOH with a few drops of NH4OH was used, and many fractions were obtained which contained only the 5-MeO-DMT, and no 5-MeO-Tryptamine. The progress of the 5-MeO-DMT down the column was distinctly noticeable via long wave UV light, although the product continued to come off of the column long after the initial luminescent band had passed.
I am not sure what the consensus is here, but I prefer not to distill partially because I am bad at it, and secondly because I am terrified of heating low boiling point compounds such as these, as I have had some bad luck with this in the past. If you have the ability and/or the technique to do fractional vacuum distillation, go for it. I wouldn't say that I am particularly good at column chromatography either, but the solvent system used makes this almost-foolproof. Once again, I digress.
The fractions containing the product and only the product were combined and stripped of solvent under reduced vacuum. The resulting amber colored oil was allowed to sit once again at room temperature, and the product was of sufficient purity that it spontaneously crystallized into long, thin, waxy amber crystals of pure 5-MeO-DMT freebase. The oxalate salt is very easily prepared by dissolving the freebase in ether, and adding a saturated solution of oxalic acid in ether to that. I kept mine as the freebase.
Theoretical yield: 5.73 g Actual yield: 4.44 g Percent yield: 73%
Identity of 5-MeO-DMT confirmed by H-NMR.
I'm not sure if this synthesis has improved the reaction shown in Hamiltons show, as he never gives a yield, and there are a million places where I believe I could have done something a little different to save some of my product. But maybe my description will help a bee out in the future, and that is enough for me. I just want to also say thank you to Hamilton for the initial synthesis and everything he has done to further interest in drugs and chemistry in general. If you happen to notice any part of my protocol that could be improved, please do not hesitate to let me know. Peace and love.
Link to Hamilton's republished pamphlet on the Sonoran desert toad, where his 5-MeO-DMT synthesis is laid out in great detail: https://www.psychedelictoadofthesonorandesert.com
All proceeds go towards Parkinson's research in honor of the original author of the pamphlet, Ken Nelson.
CH3Cl? I assume you mean chloroform (CHCl3)?
Of course, whoops!
Fantastic work... are you planning to run this once again but use even larger excess of HCHO and borohydride to try to omit the need for column chromatography?
I think that would be the most likely next step, I have to think that an increase in the molar equivalents of the formaldehyde and borohydride would complete my reaction. I'm not sure where to start in terms of how much to increase, but maybe 1.2 or 1.5x the equivalents used in this reaction would be a good range. Or I'll simply have to buy new reagents! Assuming the reagents bought are new, this could be such a clean reaction requiring very little purification. Such a nice route from available precursors, and no Speeter-Anthony tryptamine synthesis required! If I was able to get 73% with my shoddy chromatography skills and old reagents I can only imagine how much more efficient this could be.
For 100% assurance of your formaldehyde you can buy paraformaldehyde and autoclave it (or just boil in a can if you don't have fancy equipment) in water alkalized with NaOH (makes the depolymerization very quick) or (even better!) methanol with NaOH. This could decrease the overall amount of water in the reaction, which would make me think it would increase the yields too. Unluckily with borohydride either the powder can be added to omit the need of adding water. I'd be thrilled to hear about an anhydrous try like that.
Where do I find more info about what that means? Stabilizing formaldehyde, assuming it's not an easy search
Commercially available formaldehyde (formalin) is always stablised by the addition of methanol to it
Noob question: would the reaction work with just one addition funnel? So one solution dripped, and one added in the beginning. If so, what would the best one to drip in NaBH4 or formaldehyde?
Definitely dripping NaBH4 since it’s the exothermic part you want to control
You could maybe drip 1/2 of the formaldehyde then 1/2 of the NaBH4 if you’d absolutely have to use a single addition funnel; though you can easily use two separatory funnels at an angle to simultaneously drip two solutions in the reaction
Great job!
Hopefully my synthesis (my amphetamine one) can be as successful as yours!
Edit:
Goodbye, hero
Thank you my friend best of luck to you
Great! Thank you, im gonna try it with tryptamine..i have a few failed runs..at 0 ° ... My freezer goes -15 i will try to build some device that fits in, to follow your write up :)
I think Hamilton may have been referring to 0F (-18C) to make it more understandable for the audience.... maybe
I don't think fahrenheits are ever the more understandable option.
I agree, but maybe Vice doesn’t lol
Where is the kitchen sink version of this? :p
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this up.
Can anyone speak on the ideal molar ratio of the 5-meo-dmt to formaldehyde. In scholarly journal articles I read that it takes at least a 1:2 tryptamine to formaldehyde ratio. Then in other places I've seen a molar ratio as high as 1:6 tryptamine to formaldehyde ratio. If you would also be kind enough to shed some light on the m/v% formaldehyde/methanol mix based on the recommended ideal molar amount of formaldehyde it would be appreciated cause I've seen alot of different numbers for that as well.
That would be correct 1:2 tryptamine:formaldehyde
Although I’d say add 5% excess formaldehyde just so you don’t accidentally stop reaction before it’s finished. Same with the sodium borohydrode.
Anyone know why the website with pamphlet are down?
i have no traditional education in chemistry but i have read and studied chem 1 and 2. i have successfully extracted NN DMT from mimosa hostiles and made mushroom extract, lsa extract as well as thc products (those last three are pretty easy though. I have yet to synthesize anything (except base if you even consider that synth) but i want to try this one once i get some lab equipment.