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The Cutting Room Floor 🌵 - tcrf

The Cutting Room Floor 🌵
🔍 TCRF / tcrf
NO OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSION --- Discuss anything related to TCRF or unused content. | IRC is https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.badnik.zone/tcrf
Luminar joined the server. 12/2/2017 11:59 AM
Luminar 12/2/2017 11:59 AM
hello
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 11:59 AM
sup
Luminar 12/2/2017 12:00 PM
advertise this and it might even get popular
12:00 PM
and be beneficial for everyone working on tcrf wiki
12:00 PM
easy access to other researchers
chekwob joined the server. 12/2/2017 12:00 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 12:00 PM
I already shared a link to it on the site
12:01 PM
welcome btw
chekwob 12/2/2017 12:01 PM
are these rules copy-pasted from the tcrf site
Luminar 12/2/2017 12:02 PM
change the default notification setting
12:02 PM
right now it pings each time someone writes
12:02 PM
logs are possible
12:02 PM
you just need one of the many bots that support it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 12:02 PM
better?
Luminar 12/2/2017 12:02 PM
yes
Smoke joined the server. 12/2/2017 12:03 PM
Luminar 12/2/2017 12:04 PM
hello
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 12:04 PM
greetings
Foas joined the server. 12/2/2017 12:05 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 12:05 PM
henlo
Smoke 12/2/2017 12:05 PM
Hello
Foas 12/2/2017 12:05 PM
ayy
Luminar 12/2/2017 12:06 PM
hello
isak joined the server. 12/2/2017 12:07 PM
Luminar 12/2/2017 12:07 PM
hello
isak 12/2/2017 12:07 PM
ok
clip joined the server. 12/2/2017 12:10 PM
Luminar 12/2/2017 12:11 PM
hello
Video joined the server. 12/2/2017 12:17 PM
Luminar 12/2/2017 12:20 PM
hello
Smoke 12/2/2017 12:28 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=The_SpongeBob_SquarePants_Movie_(GameCube,_PlayStation_2,_Xbox)&diff=525805&oldid=524284 Found by: teh_supar_hackr
Index.php?title=The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie (GameCube, PlayStation 2, Xbox)&diff=525805&oldid=524284
Deleted User joined the server. 12/2/2017 2:00 PM
ErisBot joined the server. 12/2/2017 2:02 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 2:03 PM
You know what we need? We need a bot that fetches recent changes made to the wiki
chekwob 12/2/2017 2:09 PM
they have an irc bot which reports those things
2:09 PM
but I suspect it's integrated into the wiki itself
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 2:10 PM
hmm
2:12 PM
i think i have everything I need except for admins (and I'll add the admins of TCRF if they join here)
2:12 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 2:20 PM
Somebody will probably have to code a TCRF bot + host it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 2:31 PM
Does anybody have ideas for bots? Erisbot used to be really good but it sucks now
Luminar 12/2/2017 2:36 PM
they could probably port it to discord if they want to join
Xavio joined the server. 12/2/2017 2:39 PM
Luminar 12/2/2017 2:39 PM
hello
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 2:39 PM
its a bot i added :P
Luminar 12/2/2017 2:40 PM
I know
2:45 PM
is Logger good?
2:45 PM
I should get it to my server too
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 2:45 PM
Works pretty well
Luminar 12/2/2017 2:59 PM
added to moj server
2:59 PM
cool bot (edited)
old acc! inactive joined the server. 12/2/2017 3:17 PM
old acc! inactive 12/2/2017 3:17 PM
ayy
3:17 PM
saw the invite on tcrf so i thought "may as well join"
3:17 PM
i'm Stomped Goomba on tcrf btw
Luminar 12/2/2017 3:18 PM
welcome
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 3:18 PM
henlo
3:18 PM
Do you want me to change your nickname for you?
old acc! inactive 12/2/2017 3:19 PM
no thank you
3:19 PM
i already did
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 3:19 PM
:P
Luminar 12/2/2017 3:20 PM
let's hope that more people join
chekwob 12/2/2017 3:27 PM
I have a script which can hit mediawiki apis for new revisions but at the moment its design probably isn't best for a many-page wiki
SabreTheWolf joined the server. 12/2/2017 4:14 PM
Luminar 12/2/2017 4:14 PM
hello
SabreTheWolf 12/2/2017 4:14 PM
Hi
clip 12/2/2017 4:19 PM
Welcome!
Smoke 12/2/2017 4:47 PM
Nobody's talking in voice chat?
4:48 PM
That scared me
4:49 PM
Luminar I think your stereo mix is on
Luminar 12/2/2017 4:49 PM
haha
4:49 PM
that was on purpose
Smoke 12/2/2017 4:49 PM
Ah ok
Smoke 12/2/2017 6:02 PM
http://www.scottchiu.com/
6:03 PM
Contains a few concepts for The Incredibles, BFBB, and The SpongeBob Movie game.
6:04 PM
and other games
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 9:00 PM
oh shit sorry
9:00 PM
That was an accidental delete LMAO
9:01 PM
i was trying to add a reaction
Smoke 12/2/2017 9:02 PM
That's fine
old acc! inactive 12/2/2017 9:03 PM
huh
9:03 PM
interesting stuff there
Smoke 12/2/2017 9:12 PM
Here's unused Patrick. Looks like there's unused animations, but I'm not too sure.
Video 12/2/2017 10:15 PM
looks like a leftover from Battle for Bikini Bottom
Smoke 12/2/2017 10:16 PM
It's supposed to be for the final boss
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Laenthor joined the server. 12/2/2017 10:32 PM
Smoke 12/2/2017 10:32 PM
Hello
Laenthor 12/2/2017 10:32 PM
hey
10:33 PM
Hope this becomes official later on
Smoke 12/2/2017 10:33 PM
I don't think it will
Laenthor 12/2/2017 10:34 PM
don't think either but still your effort has been noted
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/2/2017 10:38 PM
thanks dood ❤
Alien31 joined the server. 12/3/2017 9:11 AM
Luminar 12/3/2017 9:17 AM
hello
Luminar 12/3/2017 2:54 PM
looks like the wiki mods don't want to join?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 2:59 PM
3:00 PM
idk what they meant by discord not being supported by every platform
3:01 PM
windows Mac Linux iOS Android
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:01 PM
it isn't on ps2...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 3:01 PM
what other platforms do you need? :P
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 3:01 PM
i think it's just an excuse (edited)
3:01 PM
they just don't like discord, i guess
3:02 PM
"not supported by every platform" is bullshit
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:02 PM
how active is their irc?
3:03 PM
3:05 PM
everyone idle
3:05 PM
they didn't even greet the horse
Smoke 12/3/2017 3:07 PM
Oh, hello Horse (edited)
divingkxt joined the server. 12/3/2017 3:34 PM
Smoke 12/3/2017 3:34 PM
Hello divingkatae
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:34 PM
Hi.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 3:34 PM
Hello!
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:34 PM
hello
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:34 PM
Surprising that there are more people here.
3:36 PM
Want me to see if I can get an IRC not up and running?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 3:36 PM
shore
3:36 PM
I think having a bot that monitors wiki changes would also be a good idea, similar to the IRC (edited)
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:37 PM
https://discordapp.com/developers/docs/intro For those wanting to join in on the fun,.
Discord API Docs for Bots and Developers
Integrate your service with Discord - whether it's a bot or a game or your whatever you wildest imagination can come up with.
GerbilSoft joined the server. 12/3/2017 3:42 PM
GerbilSoft 12/3/2017 3:42 PM
Quack.
Smoke 12/3/2017 3:42 PM
Whack
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:42 PM
hello
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:42 PM
Allo.
GerbilSoft 12/3/2017 3:42 PM
3:43 PM
if/when this goes public i'd recommend using my Titanus bot for invite links - it filters out proxies
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:43 PM
It's technically already public,
GerbilSoft 12/3/2017 3:43 PM
well official then
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:43 PM
in the sense that the invite link is on the talk page.
3:45 PM
https://tcrf.net/Darkwurlde Overly ambitious devs, much?
Darkwurlde
3:46 PM
Oh. https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc
reactiflux/discord-irc
discord-irc - Connects Discord and IRC channels by sending messages back and forth.
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:48 PM
this looks good
3:48 PM
how does it handle images?
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:48 PM
Only way to find out is to test it in IRC.
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:49 PM
yeah
3:50 PM
hi
TCRF IRC Bot joined the server. 12/3/2017 3:52 PM
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:53 PM
hi bot
Smoke 12/3/2017 3:53 PM
hi bob
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 3:53 PM
ooo
3:53 PM
more people
3:53 PM
and bot
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:54 PM
One of the admins actually does use OpenBSD.
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:55 PM
but why
3:55 PM
can it do something that other OSs can't?
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:55 PM
Because Linux was too commercialized, apparently.
3:55 PM
There's not much OpenBSD can do that Linux can't.
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:56 PM
so it is just personal preference
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:56 PM
Yeah.
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 3:57 PM
wow
divingkxt 12/3/2017 3:57 PM
Anyhow, just got a bot user started.
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 3:57 PM
that darkwurlde page
GerbilSoft 12/3/2017 3:57 PM
i'd also recommend adding Dynobot and setting up user logging in a log channel
3:57 PM
https://www.dynobot.net/
3:57 PM
unless that's what Xavio is
3:57 PM
idk
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:57 PM
Logger is already here
3:58 PM
just a simple logger, no other features that might be unnecessary
GerbilSoft 12/3/2017 3:58 PM
user logging for i.e. user joins, leaves, others
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:58 PM
yes it does that
GerbilSoft 12/3/2017 3:58 PM
k
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:58 PM
also logs when someone deletes message, etc...
3:58 PM
everything that is needed
GerbilSoft 12/3/2017 3:58 PM
ok
Luminar 12/3/2017 3:58 PM
togglemodule: Use this with a valid module name to toggle a module on or off! All modules except voice are automatically enabled. Valid modules are: all, channelCreate, channelDelete, channelUpdate, guildBanAdd, guildBanRemove, guildEmojisUpdate, guildMemberAdd, guildMemberRemove, guildMemberUpdate, guildRoleCreate, guildRoleDelete, guildRoleUpdate, guildUpdate, messageDelete, messageDeleteBulk, messageReactionRemoveAll, messageUpdate, voiceChannelJoin, voiceChannelLeave, voiceChannelSwitch, all
Smoke 12/3/2017 4:00 PM
Noone wanna join voice chat then
Luminar 12/3/2017 4:02 PM
unused jak 1 demo music for you
divingkxt 12/3/2017 4:11 PM
?
4:11 PM
Where?
Luminar 12/3/2017 4:12 PM
oh nothing
4:12 PM
I just played it in the voice channel
4:12 PM
but here it is if you want to hear it:
4:13 PM
4:13 PM
it is already on tcrf, along with the others
4:13 PM
just need to add it to articles one day
divingkxt 12/3/2017 4:13 PM
I don't have a mike connected.
4:14 PM
So, I'm just testing if I can hear people.
4:14 PM
Kay.
4:16 PM
One thing I like doing for games is finding whatever got accidentally preserved, especially source code.
Luminar 12/3/2017 4:16 PM
I think I like unused music the most because that was the first thing I found
4:17 PM
then I eventually looked into other things in the jak and daxter games
Smoke 12/3/2017 4:17 PM
I just like finding unused stuff.
Luminar 12/3/2017 4:17 PM
but music is still important for me (edited)
4:19 PM
https://youtu.be/FA764eWxqYg my first video
Luminar Light
Jak 3: Unused Tracks - 1
divingkxt 12/3/2017 4:24 PM
https://tcrf.net/Star_Fox_Adventures
Star Fox Adventures
4:25 PM
Here's one page that's got a lot of stuff on it already, but there's still more to dig into.
4:25 PM
I have an ancient resource extractor for this.
Luminar 12/3/2017 4:26 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:Luminar/To-do_list
To-do list
4:26 PM
an incomplete list
Smoke 12/3/2017 4:26 PM
https://tcrf.net/Bully:_Scholarship_Edition_(Windows)
Bully: Scholarship Edition (Windows)
divingkxt 12/3/2017 4:28 PM
https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Content_to_expand
The Cutting Room Floor:Content to expand
4:28 PM
A much more complete, but still incomplete, to-do list.
Luminar 12/3/2017 4:29 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:BullySE_kewl.dat.jpg isn't this what you get into your gallery once it is unlocked ?(or camera, I don't remember) (edited)
File:BullySE kewl.dat.jpg
Smoke 12/3/2017 4:30 PM
I forgot to remove that
4:30 PM
Hold on
4:31 PM
There
Luminar 12/3/2017 4:32 PM
I remember seeing videos about bully cut content
4:32 PM
many interesting stuff got removed
4:32 PM
townies and bullies used to be the same group during development
4:32 PM
etc...
Smoke 12/3/2017 4:33 PM
I've seen a few of those videos too
divingkxt 12/3/2017 4:33 PM
Node.js installed.
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 4:39 PM
4:39 PM
designe
Smoke 12/3/2017 4:57 PM
Oops I broke it...
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chekwob 12/3/2017 5:00 PM
have you actually verified that the accounts are who they say they are
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:03 PM
On the wiki or here?
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:03 PM
oh true
5:03 PM
maybe you are just a random person using a wiki admin's name
chekwob 12/3/2017 5:04 PM
I mean I'm not making such an accusation, merely questioning whether or not such verification occurred
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:05 PM
you are right
5:05 PM
luckily it didn't end badly now
5:05 PM
but @CELL Broadband Engine 2006 should be more careful
5:05 PM
anyone can use any nickname
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:08 PM
Yeah, I mean, I'm lucky to verify my name here on time.
5:08 PM
I've been verified at least.
Smoke 12/3/2017 5:09 PM
Should there be a role for verified people?
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:09 PM
Well...
chekwob 12/3/2017 5:10 PM
I'm not sure it's worth the effort outside of administrative positions
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:10 PM
Like me.
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:10 PM
Some things should only be allowed to known/verified people
5:10 PM
Like voice chat
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:11 PM
Agreed.
5:11 PM
Not the owner of this channel though.
5:11 PM
shoopdahoop22 you there?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 5:11 PM
Ja
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:11 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 You there
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:11 PM
Can I be an owner of this channel too?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 5:13 PM
The Admin role has all the same permissions as the Owner role; I just felt like distinguishing who's who
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divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:13 PM
Ah, got it.
5:14 PM
New-ish to Discord still.
chekwob 12/3/2017 5:15 PM
I think there's an invisible founder status as well, assigned to a single account which can bypass all permissions. I'm not sure how that's reassigned but I'm sure it's documented somewhere
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:16 PM
It can be reassigned
5:16 PM
Somewhere in server settings
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 5:16 PM
might as well add an emote or two
5:16 PM
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:17 PM
But no owner transfer options on phone
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 5:19 PM
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:19 PM
Wrong
5:19 PM
There is
5:19 PM
5:21 PM
5:22 PM
Owner role should be removed once a tcrf admin becomes the real owner and have the admin role for all admins
5:22 PM
Possible lowerlevel moderator roles for discord helpers
5:22 PM
Verified members
5:23 PM
Anything I missed?
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:24 PM
Smoke: Want to be an admin?
5:24 PM
Also, got this Discord linked in the IRC for those interested.
Smoke 12/3/2017 5:24 PM
No thanks
5:25 PM
I don't think I would be mature enough
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:25 PM
Fair enough.
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:26 PM
Does that mean that irc can see us?
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:27 PM
Well, they can join in here through a link.
chekwob 12/3/2017 5:27 PM
there's an invite link in the irc channel topic
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:27 PM
Yeah, what chekwob said.
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:27 PM
So the bot is not functioning yet
chekwob 12/3/2017 5:27 PM
no, and I assume the bridge would only be in in #irc
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:28 PM
It will take a while before I can get it running.
5:28 PM
Partially because of all the dependencies I need to grab.
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:28 PM
It is quite interesting though that such a thing is even possible
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:29 PM
Pain in the ass to set up though.
chekwob 12/3/2017 5:29 PM
fortunately the discord protocol, at least the user-facing end, is publicly documented
5:29 PM
and IRC is a long-established protocol from the early 90's and probably older
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:35 PM
node.js also has documentation.
5:41 PM
莫霍克突变 https://tcrf.net/images/7/79/FP-NinjaHurk.png
5:41 PM
Mohawk Mutation.
Halfbit joined the server. 12/3/2017 5:52 PM
Halfbit 12/3/2017 5:53 PM
Hello!
Smoke 12/3/2017 5:53 PM
Hi
Halfbit 12/3/2017 5:53 PM
I’m Halfbit on TCRF
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:53 PM
Hello
Halfbit 12/3/2017 5:53 PM
Hiya
5:54 PM
So it has happened
5:55 PM
I never thought my suggestion would be followed through
Luminar 12/3/2017 5:55 PM
Your suggestion was supported by others too, this helped a bit
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 5:56 PM
sup
Halfbit 12/3/2017 5:57 PM
Hi
5:57 PM
I read
divingkxt 12/3/2017 5:57 PM
I'm more mixed about it.
5:58 PM
More so than what I can say for another admin,
5:58 PM
who uses IRC because they're on OpenBSD.
5:58 PM
(That admin compared Discord users to magpies)
5:59 PM
Perfectly fine with this existing though.
Halfbit 12/3/2017 5:59 PM
Discord’s really easy to use.
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 6:00 PM
discord > irc imo
6:00 PM
discord is just fun and easy to use
divingkxt 12/3/2017 6:00 PM
No need for text commands to join in or out.
6:00 PM
And companies themselves are trying to move away from keyboards because they're not as natural.
Smoke 12/3/2017 6:01 PM
I'd rather talk than type at most times
Halfbit 12/3/2017 6:01 PM
Same
Smoke 12/3/2017 6:01 PM
It's easier to understand someone when they talk vs. when they type
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 6:01 PM
>compared Discord users to magpies
6:01 PM
supremist much?
Smoke 12/3/2017 6:02 PM
But not everyone has a mic.
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 6:02 PM
no
6:02 PM
not you
6:02 PM
the other thing
Halfbit 12/3/2017 6:06 PM
I’m really excited to see this server grow!
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Halfbit 12/3/2017 6:20 PM
Now we wait
divingkxt 12/3/2017 6:21 PM
For...
6:21 PM
Because this is already linked on the IRC.
Halfbit 12/3/2017 6:22 PM
More people to come in
Luminar 12/3/2017 6:25 PM
Good night
divingkxt 12/3/2017 6:27 PM
Good night.
Smoke 12/3/2017 7:23 PM
divingkxt 12/3/2017 8:09 PM
Visita il nostro site - Visit our website
8:09 PM
*sito
Smoke 12/3/2017 8:10 PM
Is it Italian?
divingkxt 12/3/2017 8:10 PM
Yes.
Smoke 12/3/2017 8:10 PM
Ah ok
8:10 PM
There are three of them, the two in Italian (see pic above) and an English one.
8:10 PM
I moved on from it, but I will come back to it later.
divingkxt 12/3/2017 8:14 PM
The option with the checkbox is "Use a 3dfx Voodoo/Voodoo 2 bard (no Banshee)"
8:14 PM
"Use a 3dfx Voodoo/Voodoo 2 graphics card (no Banshee)"
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 9:22 PM
create flipnot
divingkxt 12/3/2017 9:28 PM
Smoke 12/3/2017 9:37 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/tcrf/comments/7hddah/a_closer_look_at_the_unreal_technology_demo/
A closer look at the Unreal Technology Demo • r/tcrf
1 points and 0 comments so far on reddit
old acc! inactive 12/3/2017 9:48 PM
oh neat
divingkxt 12/3/2017 9:57 PM
Hello, Smoke.
Smoke 12/3/2017 10:01 PM
divingkxt 12/3/2017 10:03 PM
Yes, bot is up and running for testing.
Neko May joined the server. 12/3/2017 10:06 PM
Smoke 12/3/2017 10:06 PM
Jello
Halfbit 12/3/2017 10:06 PM
Hullo
Neko May 12/3/2017 10:07 PM
Hello
Halfbit 12/3/2017 10:07 PM
Hey another furry
Neko May 12/3/2017 10:08 PM
Yep!
10:08 PM
Cheetah/kitsune hybrid. :3
Halfbit 12/3/2017 10:08 PM
I’m just a dragon
Neko May 12/3/2017 10:09 PM
Hey, that's fine too. :3
Halfbit 12/3/2017 10:09 PM
Yup
10:10 PM
Though sometimes I am a hatchling
Neko May 12/3/2017 10:10 PM
nods (edited)
10:10 PM
My character is always 25. I'm 32 and counting.
10:10 PM
lol
Halfbit 12/3/2017 10:11 PM
My character’s age is indeterminate
Laenthor 12/3/2017 10:11 PM
I'm Link, HEYAHHH
Neko May 12/3/2017 10:12 PM
lol
10:12 PM
MY POTS!
GerbilSoft 12/3/2017 10:24 PM
might be worth setting up titanus here later this week
10:24 PM
(invite filtering script that prevents certain unwanted users from joining)
10:25 PM
test 1 2 3
10:25 PM
This is a message in #tcrf that should not be on irc
Halfbit 12/3/2017 10:32 PM
Nini guys
Neko May 12/3/2017 10:33 PM
Later
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 10:36 PM
Can the folks in IRC see this?
Deleted User joined the server. 12/3/2017 10:40 PM
Smoke 12/3/2017 10:40 PM
Hello
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 10:41 PM
henlowe
esther joined the server. 12/3/2017 10:53 PM
Smoke 12/3/2017 10:55 PM
hi periaster
esther 12/3/2017 10:56 PM
hello!
divingkxt 12/3/2017 10:58 PM
Yep, got the bot running, now the toughest part comes in maintaining it.
10:58 PM
Doesn't seem like many people here know how to set it up (and it does take a fair amount of disk space to get running at all).
Xkeeper joined the server. 12/3/2017 11:01 PM
Smoke 12/3/2017 11:01 PM
hi xkeeper
Xkeeper 12/3/2017 11:02 PM
I guess it was inevitable
Neko May 12/3/2017 11:02 PM
Hello, Xkeeper. :3
Xkeeper 12/3/2017 11:03 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 if you want i can take over, i guess
11:03 PM
i'll keep you around as discord admin but rename it and whatnot
11:03 PM
ping me whenever i'm going to go back to working on something else
divingkxt 12/3/2017 11:04 PM
Yeah, shoopdahoop22 just felt like creating it, as more and more people kept clamoring for Discord.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/3/2017 11:06 PM
henlow
11:08 PM
@Xkeeper u are now the owner
Xkeeper 12/3/2017 11:15 PM
fabulous. i have successfully ruined the name and icon
11:17 PM
high rez
Smoke 12/3/2017 11:17 PM
Neko May 12/3/2017 11:21 PM
Cute!
Deleted User joined the server. 12/3/2017 11:24 PM
Deleted User 12/3/2017 11:26 PM
Hmm.....might start on a scary romhack for legend of zelda for NES.
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Tucker 12/4/2017 12:05 AM
hi
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/4/2017 12:08 AM
hello
12:08 AM
divingkxt 12/4/2017 12:12 AM
My, we have a lot of people here.
fae of the seelie court 12/4/2017 12:14 AM
Hiii I saw the invite on twitter, so
Chorus Line joined the server. 12/4/2017 12:14 AM
Neko May 12/4/2017 12:18 AM
meows
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/4/2017 12:20 AM
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divingkxt 12/4/2017 12:21 AM
Tres
Dos 12/4/2017 12:21 AM
Hello
divingkxt 12/4/2017 12:24 AM
So compression in old games is a bit of a hassle.
12:24 AM
I did find code for one such method in an Apple IIGS game. (Crystal Quest; Block 1384 on in CiderPress)
rabidrodent joined the server. 12/4/2017 12:38 AM
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 12:42 AM
hey.
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Lil-G joined the server. 12/4/2017 12:55 AM
eientei 12/4/2017 12:55 AM
Hoi
Incineroar joined the server. 12/4/2017 12:58 AM
Dos 12/4/2017 12:59 AM
more pokemon
Incineroar 12/4/2017 12:59 AM
o/
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:00 AM
meows again
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:01 AM
I'm getting closer and closer to phasing out my IRC client from my laptop
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:01 AM
That's sad.
1:01 AM
I actually finally added their IRC to mine
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:02 AM
I had to add extra features to mine but since using Discord I haven't had much need for it
1:02 AM
I was happy for the day I uninstalled Skype
leilei 12/4/2017 1:02 AM
otoh i've been waiting for the day of a non-irc tcrf chat
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:02 AM
IRC isn't hard to use at all.
leilei 12/4/2017 1:03 AM
i've phased irc out of my life 9 years ago following a bad encounter with a douche somewhere
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:03 AM
I was actually thinking the other day to see if tcrf had a discord yet
1:03 AM
Looks like I just had to be a bit more patient
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:03 AM
@Incineroar: It literally started an hour ago
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:03 AM
Perfection
leilei 12/4/2017 1:05 AM
also it's more practical for a tcrf to have a discord due to the upload part anyhow
chekwob 12/4/2017 1:05 AM
I suppose that is true
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:06 AM
I like discord for a much more cohesive cross platform client
1:07 AM
And one that actually has a Linux client that isn't half-assed
1:07 AM
Unlike, say, Skype
eientei 12/4/2017 1:07 AM
But the Linux client is just a browser
dIRCord joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:07 AM
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:08 AM
Of Discord or...?
chekwob 12/4/2017 1:08 AM
isn't the windows one as well? I thought they were all electron-based or something
eientei 12/4/2017 1:08 AM
Yeah, of Discord
1:08 AM
Yeah, if they all are then why have two browsers open at the same time
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:08 AM
They are, but Skype had a better desktop client
1:08 AM
The actual desktop client is native as far as I can remember
1:09 AM
Unless they changed that?
leilei 12/4/2017 1:09 AM
i'm sure that's a form of chrome iirc
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:10 AM
That and Discord doesn't have ads so
leilei 12/4/2017 1:10 AM
yet
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:10 AM
They're monetizing through Nitro subscriptions probably
eientei 12/4/2017 1:10 AM
Nah, only continuing to do http connections to `https://discordapp.com/api/v6/track`
Elyos joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:12 AM
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leilei 12/4/2017 1:14 AM
Elyos 12/4/2017 1:14 AM
Hello!
eientei 12/4/2017 1:14 AM
Hoi
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:15 AM
Kinda makes me wanna dig out my iMac and play SC2K
Marphy Black joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:16 AM
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neomew joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:17 AM
chekwob 12/4/2017 1:17 AM
rapid growth, already 40+ users
neomew 12/4/2017 1:17 AM
Well I love unused stuff in games so I came :)
eientei 12/4/2017 1:18 AM
Kinky
neomew 12/4/2017 1:18 AM
Lol
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neomew 12/4/2017 1:19 AM
I mean I saw something to do with a tcrf discord and ive been looking at the website often since 2010
1:20 AM
All started with the Zelda prototype I think as well
eientei 12/4/2017 1:21 AM
Mine started with finding strings in a GBA game and searching Google
leilei 12/4/2017 1:21 AM
i'm not sure what got me started
1:21 AM
but i did used to view pc game graphics by just opening every file in compushow eons ago
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:21 AM
I might have been among the first to find the site through Google.
neomew 12/4/2017 1:22 AM
I spent days looking up under content in games on YouTube after that day as well
1:22 AM
I found it by accident I think
Deleted User joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:22 AM
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:22 AM
I remember when TCRF was just part of BMF54123's personal website.
Elyos 12/4/2017 1:23 AM
I just wanted to share cut content I found in a MMO that no one cared about
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:23 AM
Alright, alright, alright, partners. It's been quite a long time, hasn't it?
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 1:23 AM
nice obnoxious name but hello
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 1:23 AM
i need new fonts
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:23 AM
Howdy.
neomew 12/4/2017 1:24 AM
It's all squares for me
leilei 12/4/2017 1:24 AM
3 days until gitsacfao shuts down iirc
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:24 AM
Thanks for the tip.
neomew 12/4/2017 1:24 AM
I'm on android
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 1:24 AM
wait, it shows up as a square with hex in it
1:24 AM
it's all the same character
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:24 AM
It's a single repeated Chinese character
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:24 AM
It's according to the circumstances surrounding the Unicode your phone uses on Discord. If it's UTF-8 it's just a bunch of squares.
neomew 12/4/2017 1:24 AM
Oh ok
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:24 AM
Android here, too
chekwob 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
same but not even using android
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
and i already have `ttf-kochi-*`
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
No, it's a matter of fonts
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
I've heard that it's a bunch of Japanese characters, those boxes and the big thing.
1:25 AM
Uhhh
1:25 AM
I don't think so.
neomew 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
To think there's leftover beta maps in pokemon GS
Lil-G 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
wtf is that
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
Perhaps it could be, however, it is usually distinguished according to the OS.
chekwob 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
maybe it doesn't help that I force all fonts to monospace
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
If you don't have a font that covers the codepoint, it shows up as a rectangle.
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
i will change your name at this rate, just because it's kind of obnoxious
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:25 AM
It's something I've noticed.
1:26 AM
Alright, then.
1:26 AM
If you say so.
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 1:26 AM
okay, let's see if `ttf-wqy-microhei` works
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:26 AM
It's not that much of a big deal either.
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:26 AM
Some OSes will print the codepoint inside the rectangle
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:26 AM
I don't see why it would be a matter of concern, but sure.
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 1:26 AM
1:27 AM
it's just distracting and visually noisy
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:27 AM
I know Linux will put the codepoint inside in hex (edited)
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:27 AM
This seems a little bit hyperbolic to me. (edited)
1:27 AM
Haven't heard many complaints so far.
1:27 AM
But I don't mind.
neomew 12/4/2017 1:28 AM
But how do we say your name now?
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:28 AM
Y'all could call me my real name if you'd rather.
1:28 AM
Scott.
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:28 AM
Jersey.
1:28 AM
https://emojipedia.org/emoji/%F0%9F%87%AF%F0%9F%87%AA/
neomew 12/4/2017 1:28 AM
Pikachu
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:28 AM
@divingkxt Yeah, the Isle Of Jersey, but it looks like the flag of Alabama
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:28 AM
His handle is that long string of Chinese, though
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:28 AM
So I use it.
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:29 AM
https://emojipedia.org/flag-for-alabama-usal/
Flag for Alabama (US-AL) Emoji
The Flag for Alabama (US-AL) emoji is a sequence of the Waving Black Flag, Tag Latin Small Letter U, Tag Latin Small Letter S, Tag Latin Small Letter a, Tag Latin…
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:29 AM
I guess by this time a contextualisation about the fact that I'm a southerner isn't necessary anymore.
1:29 AM
@divingkxt Can I use that?
1:29 AM
I'm not quite sure.
Anony1200 joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:30 AM
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:30 AM
It may not show up properly on some devices.
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:30 AM
So long as people can see it, sure.
leilei 12/4/2017 1:30 AM
eientei 12/4/2017 1:30 AM
Hoy vey
Dos 12/4/2017 1:30 AM
yawn
chekwob 12/4/2017 1:30 AM
Several people are typing...
esther 12/4/2017 1:30 AM
uh
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:31 AM
Sorry if it arouses controversy somehow.
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:31 AM
Yeah, that would be against the rules.
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 1:31 AM
uhh...
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:31 AM
@divingkxt It doesn't show up around here either.
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Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:32 AM
Eh, it's just a flag.
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:32 AM
Unicode doesn't have the Confed flag anyway.
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:32 AM
It's what the flag represents.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:32 AM
Indeed.
1:32 AM
Uhhhhh
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:32 AM
@divingkxt: May it never have it.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:32 AM
just what I expected to see in the TCRF server
eientei 12/4/2017 1:32 AM
Obvious troll is obvious
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:32 AM
some goon from PA talking about the confederate flag
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:32 AM
It has become more a matter of heritage rather than that.
1:32 AM
There's a time and place for everything
1:33 AM
Now is not the time to discuss that.
1:33 AM
And it's also a completely subjective and arbitrary concept.
Macrepeh joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:33 AM
chekwob 12/4/2017 1:33 AM
does unicode actually define any flags anyway? I thought it was a sequence of two country-code codepoints which can be given value by external standards
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:33 AM
I don't think so.
Nick joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:33 AM
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:33 AM
that classic hotbed of southern culture, Norristown, Pennsylvania
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:33 AM
Discord has its own emojis.
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:33 AM
lol
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 1:34 AM
wow, that's actually an appropriate join message!
eientei 12/4/2017 1:34 AM
1:34 AM
Made up of and
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:34 AM
why I bet there's at least 3 banjos per square mile up there
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:34 AM
@Anony1200 I moved to the North, pal. Born and raised at the farm in Alabama.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:34 AM
sure thing bub
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:34 AM
It's such a shitty town I bet nobody has ever heard of it.
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:34 AM
/
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:34 AM
Also
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Neko May 12/4/2017 1:34 AM
Hm
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:35 AM
I try to hide my southern accent to avoid the usual passive aggressiveness
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:35 AM
️‍ too
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:35 AM
Woah...
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:35 AM
And the "white trash" and "redneck" stuff they usually call me.
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:35 AM
Please take this to the off-topic category.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:35 AM
Sure.
1:35 AM
Alrighty
eientei 12/4/2017 1:36 AM
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:36 AM
@Deleted User: I don't know you well enough to form an opinion of you yet.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:36 AM
It'll be the last thing I'll say: it's the usual "Everybody hates the southerner" trope.
2
1:36 AM
@Neko May Everybody hates me, so, I guess, welcome to the club, pal.
leilei 12/4/2017 1:37 AM
this went from fresh discord to mansplaining hate symbols pretty fast
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:37 AM
I can't do much people choose to me hate me regardless of the circumstances surrounding my convictions. They just.
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:37 AM
You seem to be respectful enough off the bat, so I'm still not leaning either way.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:37 AM
They just hate me.
1:37 AM
I guess it's always been like that.
1:37 AM
I am.
eientei 12/4/2017 1:37 AM
And so it evolves into playing the victim
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:37 AM
As always, the details come out in the wash.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:37 AM
I'm pretty respectful towards everyone.
1:37 AM
Uhhhhhhh
Dos 12/4/2017 1:38 AM
damn my decision to just block him 10 minutes ago seems to be paying off
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:38 AM
So long as you're respectful enough, you should be fine by my book.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:38 AM
How am I playing the victim when people choose to avoid me for no coherent reason, buddy? @eientei (edited)
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
"They just hate me. I guess it's always been like that."
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
this is dumb as shit and not TCRF related in the slightest, maybe it's time to steer the conversation to something vaguely related to the website in any way
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
Hm, Discord doesn't have pansexual or trans flags.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
Sure.
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
Yes, please.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
Alright.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
So
Chorus Line 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
No dwama. In the discowd.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
let's talk about something that's been on my mind
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
It's been quite a long time since I've been an assiduous user.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:39 AM
someone did that Mario World Source Code dump quite a while ago
1:40 AM
did anything ever come out of that?
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:40 AM
@divingkxt I don't want to keep this going but it genuinely isn't my fault. This is really my last statement regarding that.
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:40 AM
Super Mario World, right?
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:40 AM
Yup
1:40 AM
https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=78013
1:40 AM
From this thread, specifically
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:40 AM
I know there's a disassembly out there, but source code?
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:40 AM
I've heard of some fake betas a lot of time ago.
divingkxt 12/4/2017 1:40 AM
As in the original source code?
1:40 AM
Hah, no.
1:41 AM
We'd be incredibly lucky to get that.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:41 AM
ROMhacks developed with SMB3's engine.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:41 AM
S'what this dude claims, at least.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:41 AM
And people all around the place affirming that they were legitimate.
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:41 AM
First-party Nintendo betas are rare enough
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:41 AM
Yeah
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:41 AM
Maybe he's full of it, maybe he called it the wrong thing, maybe it's this or that, but it's been a Todo on the page for quite a while but I haven't seen anything come out of it
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:42 AM
Have we seen a dump of the SF2 already?
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:42 AM
Let alone source code, which is unobtanium for almost any company
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:42 AM
The pre-re-release
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Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:47 AM
my favorite part of that thread is that utterly irrelevant comment, the last comment in the thread, asking someone to disassemble Pokemon Red/Blue
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:47 AM
Hasn't that been done anyway?
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:47 AM
Yeah, that guy's gonna be happy when someone tells him
1:48 AM
and then deletes his random off topic post
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:48 AM
I believe that's how Missingno. was explained and how IVs were discovered.
1:48 AM
The engine in Gen I was actually rather incredibly advanced.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:49 AM
also miserably thrown together with chewing gum and duct tape
1:49 AM
both extremes at the same time
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:49 AM
To be fair, it was solid if you weren't deliberately fucking with it
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:49 AM
Even if you aren't there are still some pretty weird problems
1:50 AM
Nothing fatal but a lot of head-scratchers and "how'd they not notice that?" stuff
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:50 AM
The fact that the 8080ish CPU in the GB has no exception handling whatsoever makes bugs more complicated
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:50 AM
most notably probably the ol' ABCD
1:50 AM
when you teleport, that is
Macrepeh 12/4/2017 1:51 AM
And then there's stuff like focus energy quartering critical hit chance
1:51 AM
Jump kick doing 1 damage
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:51 AM
Lack of debug tools makes things interesting. Then once it's production you have nothing.
Macrepeh 12/4/2017 1:51 AM
Lot of oversights
Deleted User joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:51 AM
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:51 AM
Keep in mind these games were released in 1996 for an 8 bit system
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:51 AM
I think my favorite has to be the ABCD sprite glitch though it's just like how on earth do you not notice that
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:51 AM
Or the infinite battle vs. Lorelei
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:52 AM
most of these things I can see slipping through testing with no one really noticing but the broken sprite while teleporting really confuses me (edited)
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:52 AM
The AI is so simple and yet so stupid
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:52 AM
is a computer engineer, knows more about code and hardware platforms than is normal
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 1:52 AM
hmm
Macrepeh 12/4/2017 1:53 AM
That's nice
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:53 AM
Well, remember that you have maybe 10-20 QA guys while you're writing the game.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:53 AM
True
1:53 AM
Can't catch 'em all
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:53 AM
Once that game is released, you have hundreds of thousands
1:53 AM
Possibly millions
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:53 AM
Millions for sure
Video 12/4/2017 1:53 AM
wait is the xkeeper here legit
eientei 12/4/2017 1:54 AM
No, he's a hologram
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:54 AM
there's no such thing as a legitimate xkeeper, xkeeper is a glitch in real life that was never meant to be used
Deleted User joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:54 AM
Video 12/4/2017 1:54 AM
fuck
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/4/2017 1:54 AM
i would be very surprised if this xkeeper was not legit, since the legit xkeeper does know about this server and would probably have something to say about it
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:55 AM
Considering they run it now
Tucker 12/4/2017 1:55 AM
this is progressing quickly
Neko May 12/4/2017 1:55 AM
They're legit
Video 12/4/2017 1:55 AM
look i get it
1:55 AM
he's real
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:55 AM
you don't know that
Video 12/4/2017 1:55 AM
no need to shove down my neck
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:55 AM
we could be yanking your chain
1:56 AM
that could be GoldS doing a damn good impersonation (edited)
chekwob 12/4/2017 1:56 AM
if only I had made this point hours ago
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 1:58 AM
@Video yes i am here what's up
Video 12/4/2017 1:59 AM
oh nothing i just noticed you were in this discord
1:59 AM
this discord was smaller like a few hours ago
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 1:59 AM
well i mean. i run tcrf, so
Anony1200 12/4/2017 1:59 AM
hey @Macrepeh are you the real mac
Macrepeh 12/4/2017 2:00 AM
no
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:00 AM
dang it
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:00 AM
(also @Xkeeper for extra style points for the server icon you should add on a santa hat)
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:00 AM
maybe soon
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:00 AM
Otherwise it's perfect
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:00 AM
well if you decide you are I just want you to know that you're here, macrepeh
2:01 AM
and in a bunch of other servers, being a goon all over the place
Macrepeh 12/4/2017 2:01 AM
no
Video 12/4/2017 2:02 AM
if there is going to be a music voice channel then it should have christmas music blaring
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:02 AM
NO
2:02 AM
NO NO NO
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:02 AM
if you want that just go to any shopping mall in America
2:02 AM
or store
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:02 AM
Or Canada
Video 12/4/2017 2:02 AM
well i don't go shopping
leilei 12/4/2017 2:02 AM
unused music only channel
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:02 AM
don't go to Canada that's a bad place
Video 12/4/2017 2:02 AM
why
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 2:02 AM
?
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:03 AM
there's a lot of trees there and people who say "aboot"
Video 12/4/2017 2:03 AM
uhh
2:03 AM
so
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:03 AM
ƒluƒƒу 12/4/2017 2:03 AM
aren't all the canadians who say aboot just fictional ones on american tv
Video 12/4/2017 2:03 AM
and also some video games too
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:03 AM
@ƒluƒƒу: Yes
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:03 AM
you've clearly never been to the maritimes
2:03 AM
don't feel bad I think like only 20 guys have in total
ƒluƒƒу 12/4/2017 2:04 AM
even so that's just one part of canada
2:04 AM
and it's a big place
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:04 AM
Very big
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 2:04 AM
to be fair, watching some (actual) canadian videos, yeah, they do pronounce the "out" part a bit different, but how does anyone think it sounds like "oot"?
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:04 AM
the rest is just a puppet state of Prince Edward Island
2:04 AM
wake up sheeple
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:04 AM
:P
ƒluƒƒу 12/4/2017 2:04 AM
`fall in line to the edspiracy`
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:05 AM
no one ever writes about the great war between PEI and the Yukon in the 1890s that determined the fate of Canada forever
2:05 AM
now the only remenant of the old Yukonite Canada is in Canada's national icon and former prime minister, Dudley Do-Right
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:05 AM
Well, as far as the Ontario provincial government is concerned, Ottawa doesn't exist
2:06 AM
So you might on to somerhing
2:06 AM
When you can completely ignore the NATIONAL FUCKING CAPITOL
2:06 AM
lol
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:06 AM
Nah, the only city here is Toronto and nothing else exists
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ƒluƒƒу 12/4/2017 2:06 AM
can confirm, i live in a city that doesn't exist
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:06 AM
holy shit guys, it's the real Patreon
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 2:06 AM
wasn't ottawa invented as a ruse to prevent people from attacking toronto?
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:07 AM
Same @ƒluƒƒу
eientei 12/4/2017 2:07 AM
I thought all Toronto has going for it are the CN Tower being in SC3K and Rob Ford
Tucker 12/4/2017 2:07 AM
pack your stuff
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:07 AM
but Rob Ford's dead
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:07 AM
Rob Ford died a couple years ago
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:07 AM
not that long gone
2:08 AM
only march of last year
eientei 12/4/2017 2:08 AM
Exactly, so that's down to one thing Toronto has for itself
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:08 AM
I'd say it has a furry convention, but since 2016 so does Ottawa
2:08 AM
So that's another thing they don't monopolize
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:08 AM
That and a baseball team and a basketball team
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:08 AM
that's not a positive
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Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:09 AM
Oh, and a hockey team, although they're nothing special
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VerdantOzark 12/4/2017 2:09 AM
well hello there
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:09 AM
holy heck
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:09 AM
The #10 furry convention overall by attendance, too!
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:09 AM
Holy crap
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:09 AM
is this an invasion
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 2:09 AM
so many new users
VerdantOzark 12/4/2017 2:09 AM
was surprised when my discord server list suddenly bumped down
eientei 12/4/2017 2:10 AM
Borman
That name rings a bell
Video 12/4/2017 2:10 AM
multikill
2:10 AM
>404USERNOTFOUND JOINS
2:10 AM
>BAN
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:11 AM
@Anony1200: Furry conventions are definitely a positive. Especially to have the largest in Canada.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:11 AM
Can someone grab the spammer in off topic?
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:11 AM
if you say so
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:12 AM
Though renting a car and driving 4 hours to get there is kind of annoying.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:12 AM
I think we'll just have to agree to completely disagree on that
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:13 AM
Actually, the drive is easy until you get into Toronto during morning rush hour.
Video 12/4/2017 2:13 AM
@Incineroar - sacredarchitect#9627 is the dude's discord
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:13 AM
The 401 is a pretty chill highway in the off time.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:13 AM
I used to be in with this girl who lived in Ottawa actually
Video 12/4/2017 2:14 AM
goddamnit discord
Kanan (´・ω・｀) 12/4/2017 2:14 AM
i can hear the mosquitoes flying (｡ŏ﹏ŏ)
Video 12/4/2017 2:14 AM
rickrolling us
Chaz 12/4/2017 2:14 AM
Ooh
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:14 AM
she gave me a bootleg invader zim DVD for my birthday
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:14 AM
@Anony1200: Well, in case it wasn't bleedingly obvious, I myself am a furry.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:14 AM
@Anony1200 I'm not a mod so I'm powerless
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:14 AM
thanks for the info
2:15 AM
to, uh, both of those
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:15 AM
eientei 12/4/2017 2:15 AM
https://open.spotify.com/track/2pyxICfn3Mu743C1GqjwpI
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Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:16 AM
@Netscape Navigator damn, haven't seen that name in a long time
2:17 AM
Probably since Pokecommunity
neomew 12/4/2017 2:17 AM
So how's Pokemon usum so far?
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:17 AM
Not played it.
eientei 12/4/2017 2:17 AM
Similar to S&M
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:18 AM
I haven't played a Pokemon game since Gen IV
2:18 AM
And that was HeartGold
neomew 12/4/2017 2:18 AM
I know most of the sorry so far is mostly the same as sm so far
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:18 AM
So it doesn't really count as IV
neomew 12/4/2017 2:18 AM
I liked ss and hg
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:18 AM
Was kinda playing but school
2:19 AM
Also was playing pocket monsters sapphire and Crystal
neomew 12/4/2017 2:19 AM
And I played GS back in the day as well
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:19 AM
Oh, I was into Pokemon before the US release.
neomew 12/4/2017 2:20 AM
What's pokemon green like?
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:20 AM
well, imagine pokemon red/blue with a few minor changes and horrible sprites in a language you don't understand
eientei 12/4/2017 2:20 AM
I was into Pokemon before it was a sparkle in Tajiri's eye
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:20 AM
I never actually played the Japanese originals (edited)
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:20 AM
that's pretty much the long and short of it
2:21 AM
and I know some people are gonna defend them but let's be objective, the sprites of red/green make the red/blue sprites look like the roof of the sistine chapel
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:21 AM
I had gotten into it and following it on the internet
Video 12/4/2017 2:21 AM
better arm yourself
neomew 12/4/2017 2:21 AM
I'm sure very horrifying Sprites in green
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:21 AM
Like I've played these more than ultra moon
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:21 AM
Well, US R/B were based off JP B
2:21 AM
Which was a special edition of JP R/G
eientei 12/4/2017 2:22 AM
Then you had the EU localizations which were technically between R/B and Y
neomew 12/4/2017 2:22 AM
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:22 AM
lol
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:22 AM
Kinda wanna get Red/Green
eientei 12/4/2017 2:23 AM
@neomew I'd call that a Neo Mew
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:23 AM
Then I can use the time capsule
neomew 12/4/2017 2:23 AM
It's nice to know they fixed mew in later verison xD
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:23 AM
That reminds me, I need to compile higan
eientei 12/4/2017 2:24 AM
What distro of Linux are you using?
neomew 12/4/2017 2:25 AM
Quick question what's with tcrf's obsession with cacti? Just wondering
eientei 12/4/2017 2:25 AM
See the Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES) page
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:25 AM
one day there was a guy named David Wong who compiled the original list of glitches in video games (edited)
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:25 AM
It was an injoke that never quite died
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:25 AM
@eientei: Gentoo
eientei 12/4/2017 2:25 AM
Ah, neat
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:26 AM
I was making the cleanup templates one day and was reading the sm64 page
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:26 AM
legend has it, David Wong wanted desperately to cover unused content in video games he occasionally got peaks of through his glitching but could never quite get the tools or time to do it
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:26 AM
It runs great on my new laptop. :D
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:26 AM
"hmm, this cactus is like 32x32, which is about what i'd like for this... i'll use it for now"
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:26 AM
so he planted a cactus and said "when this cactus grows I will know what the individual ball object in green hill zone does"
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:26 AM
at one point most of the cleanup templates used it, and then some people made their own versions
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:26 AM
and that cactus grew and a single fruit sprouted off of it, that fruit is TCRF
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:26 AM
Wait, did this server just get created? I don't remember joining it. Not that I mind though
eientei 12/4/2017 2:26 AM
Server, yes
2:27 AM
Site, no
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/4/2017 2:27 AM
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:27 AM
yes, it just started ... did everyone who supported us on patreon get auto-joined
2:27 AM
because that'd be real silly if so
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:27 AM
Must be
Netscape Navigator 12/4/2017 2:27 AM
Yes
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:27 AM
It just suddenly appeared at the top of my server list, and it wasn't there an hour ago
eientei 12/4/2017 2:27 AM
lol
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:27 AM
Well that's amusing
eientei 12/4/2017 2:28 AM
Patreon: Abductor of Discord users
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:28 AM
But hey, Discord is awesome, so this is actually really convenient
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:28 AM
Uh oh
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/4/2017 2:28 AM
well, that's a feature I didn't know existed (edited)
neomew 12/4/2017 2:28 AM
It just poofed into existence
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:28 AM
spammer again
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:29 AM
wow
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slfx77 12/4/2017 2:29 AM
We're probably going to need some sort of verification bot.
eientei 12/4/2017 2:29 AM
Wow, @snescentral
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:29 AM
annoying but likely correct
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:29 AM
There's auto moderation bots that silence spammers and stuff like that
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:29 AM
I have to use one for my other server
2:29 AM
unfortunately I didn't set it up and this server came with some bots already on it
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:30 AM
I tell you what might just be a good idea
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:30 AM
so I'm not sure what's available already and I don't feel like having 3 different bots that do the same thing
Tucker 12/4/2017 2:30 AM
english puyo puyo community has a slowmode bot but idk much about it
snescentral 12/4/2017 2:30 AM
hello
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:30 AM
you can block the non-role members from @ individual people and just give a role to people that lets them do it when they're trusted to not spam like a dumbass
Tucker 12/4/2017 2:30 AM
would eat spam up though
2:30 AM
i think the notificaitons would still go through...
snescentral 12/4/2017 2:31 AM
I started a Discord channel, but didn't make the invite link publlic
2:31 AM
not too many people there as a result
eientei 12/4/2017 2:31 AM
Wonder why
snescentral 12/4/2017 2:31 AM
but no moderation needed
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:31 AM
:P
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:31 AM
wait no actually that's fake news, you can only do that for @ everyone
2:31 AM
nice
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slfx77 12/4/2017 2:32 AM
I guess it really depends on how you want to set it up. One of the servers I go to requires you to be a member of their forums and having a specific profile field contain a generated key.
2:32 AM
But that seems like overkill for this.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:33 AM
oh man that would be annoying as hell
eientei 12/4/2017 2:33 AM
Go to x page, get y value, feed it through z algorithm
Anony1200 12/4/2017 2:33 AM
I tell you what I do if I see a server that makes you do that
2:33 AM
I don't join that server
slfx77 12/4/2017 2:34 AM
For the most part I never post, so. /shrug
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:36 AM
How to compile things on a fresh system: 1. Try to compile program, wait for it to fail and tell you what dependency is missing 2. Add dependency, go to 1 3. Oh, it finished? Yay! (edited)
Lil-G 12/4/2017 2:37 AM
lol basically
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:37 AM
Uh oh. I'll have to ask byuu how to compile without pulseaudio.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:37 AM
How to compile things on a fresh system: don't, especially if on Windows
Lil-G 12/4/2017 2:38 AM
ugh
2:38 AM
compiling on windows
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:38 AM
I've been coding for 6 years and still LOATHE installing dependencies
leilei 12/4/2017 2:38 AM
i 180 fast when something wants VS20xx
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:38 AM
At least for C/C++ anyway
2:38 AM
C# is alright
leilei 12/4/2017 2:38 AM
only exception is msvc6. i'm fine with 6
2:39 AM
though no one really devs on 6 anymore
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:39 AM
pulseaudio came up as a dependency. Fuck that shit.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:39 AM
But VS is abysmal at figuring out C++ and what is going wrong. The error messages are absurdly cryptic
Lil-G 12/4/2017 2:39 AM
i usually use CLion instead of VS
2:39 AM
but still
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:39 AM
The only way I work with C++ on windows is with Qt
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:40 AM
C# is bae
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:40 AM
Qt has the MinGW compiler so you can get GCC's actually-helpful error messages
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:40 AM
If you're on Windows, just be a good little sheep and use the binaries provided. :P
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:40 AM
glares at Java menacingly
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:40 AM
But there often aren't any binaries for the stuff I want
2:40 AM
Looking at you, zlib
Lil-G 12/4/2017 2:41 AM
lol java
2:41 AM
although Java is usually easier than C++ as far as dependencies go
2:41 AM
...as long as you have a build system
leilei 12/4/2017 2:41 AM
unless your gcc's old enough and your compiling errors turn lovecraftian
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:41 AM
lol
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:41 AM
I'm only using Java in the Android app I'm coding
Lil-G 12/4/2017 2:41 AM
if you go vanilla... good luck
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:41 AM
Then don't use Debian lololol
Lil-G 12/4/2017 2:42 AM
honestly, use Xamarin
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:42 AM
Otherwise it can die in a fire
2:42 AM
Tried it
leilei 12/4/2017 2:42 AM
and my preferred gcc is 4.7.2
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:42 AM
I use Gentoo. Fuck systemd.
Lil-G 12/4/2017 2:42 AM
i hope to convert @TCRF-Discord into C#
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:42 AM
Hit a bug that literally stopped my app development
leilei 12/4/2017 2:42 AM
and i only use it to compile one game and one emulator
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:42 AM
Also, non-rolling release can piss off too
2:42 AM
lol
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:42 AM
Ehhh, I haven't had any reason to hate systemd personally, but I run Arch so I can swap at a moment's notice
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leilei 12/4/2017 2:43 AM
i only use systemd on my pi because i have no choice
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:43 AM
@(Old Account) CaptainSwag101: Even the numerous CVEs Poettering refuses to fix?
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:43 AM
I think some of the hate towards it is kinda due to old issues isn't it?
2:43 AM
I thought a lot of those were indeed fixed?
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:44 AM
Old issues that still exist are called current issues
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:44 AM
Huh, guess I gotta do more research again.
araxestroy / ShinkazeVT 12/4/2017 2:44 AM
Poettering is the kind of developer that Torvalds shits bricks about
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:44 AM
Apologies for my ignorance
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:45 AM
@(Old Account) CaptainSwag101: As long as you're willing to rectify it, no apologies needed.
araxestroy / ShinkazeVT 12/4/2017 2:45 AM
And rightfully so -- We Do Not Break Userspace is a core part of linux development
2:45 AM
And while systemd does technically execute in user mode I'd be hesitant to call it userspace
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:45 AM
And speaking of Pis, I really need to get one
2:46 AM
Kinda wanna make a portable device with one
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:46 AM
@Incineroar: Look into an ODROID-C2
araxestroy / ShinkazeVT 12/4/2017 2:46 AM
So when you get things like Poettering defending systemd mounting system-bricking efivars as r/w with no kind of "process bless" system whatsoever I have to do what is incredibly rare for me and say Torvalds is right
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:46 AM
I only recently found Gentoo, and I like it although I sadly don't have the time to do all that compiling on my i5 3570K, especially since I run Plasma 5
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:46 AM
I just did a world update on an i5-2520M and it wasn't that bad.
leilei 12/4/2017 2:47 AM
my pi's just a dumb lakka box with a desktop regressed by an update
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:47 AM
And you can use the system while it's compiling.
araxestroy / ShinkazeVT 12/4/2017 2:47 AM
I run WSL, so I mostly just live in user space
leilei 12/4/2017 2:47 AM
raspbian stretch broke the gl accelerated driver
araxestroy / ShinkazeVT 12/4/2017 2:47 AM
(or as I like to call it, GNU/NT)
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:47 AM
I'm actually really starting to like WSL
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:47 AM
My new machine has an i7-8700K though
leilei 12/4/2017 2:47 AM
so all those standalone emulators run unplayably slow on there. even nestopia can't get more than 3fps on zelda's title
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:47 AM
ooh nice
2:48 AM
@leilei but can it run Crys-- actually never mind
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:48 AM
@Neko May doesn't look too bad, will have to see how the pi 3 stacks up
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:48 AM
Debian loves breaking things.
2:48 AM
It's all they ever do.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:48 AM
How? You need to be moving in order to break things
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:48 AM
I'll probably remove some ports to slim it down
araxestroy / ShinkazeVT 12/4/2017 2:49 AM
My WSL usage is basically just as a platform for a cross-gcc, cross-binutils, some grub commands, qemu for quick tests
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:49 AM
Don't ask me, they figured out a way.
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leilei 12/4/2017 2:49 AM
lakka on the other hand is just retroarch on a libreelec core
2:49 AM
it at least has working VC4 GL and allowed me to complete chrono trigger at least
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:49 AM
Ugh, retroarch
leilei 12/4/2017 2:49 AM
well the retropie alternative bricked my pi once
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:49 AM
Ugh I need to finish CT still
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:49 AM
I really wish that there were standalone versions of some of the retroarch cores, like Beetle PSX HW
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:50 AM
I'm basically at the end of the game but I'm not strong enough to beat Lavos
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:50 AM
I beat the SNES Earthbound. No cheating, either!
leilei 12/4/2017 2:50 AM
grinding to beating lavos shouldn't be a primary concern
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:50 AM
Might need to go through the Black Omen a few more times
2:51 AM
Get some better gear too
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:51 AM
I should play Earthbound again.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:51 AM
I should actually play that
2:51 AM
Put my SNES classic to use
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:51 AM
I've been dying to play Castlevania SotN for years, but I can't find the time, despite having lots of it
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:52 AM
Oh, if anyone on here with Android likes chipmusic: https://github.com/droidmjt/Droidsound
droidmjt/Droidsound
Droidsound - DOWNLOAD LINKS AT THE BOTTOM ON THE PAGE.
leilei 12/4/2017 2:52 AM
would probably help massively if you did robo/desert sidequest
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:52 AM
DSE MY FAVE APP
2:52 AM
I actually have that installed
2:52 AM
Best app ever
2:52 AM
It's basically foobar2000 but portable and somewhat complete
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:52 AM
ooooohhhhh
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:52 AM
Have the latest version, though?
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:53 AM
Yes
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:53 AM
The dev moved it to GitHub only
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:53 AM
Got a new phone like a week ago
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:53 AM
Because too many idiots kept giving it one star on Google Play because they were too stupid to figure out how to use it.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:54 AM
@leilei did that too. Literally all that's left is Black Omen and Lavos
leilei 12/4/2017 2:54 AM
then you shouldn't have a problem
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:54 AM
I'm thinking it's just what I have equipped
2:54 AM
Should see what I can change
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:54 AM
Also, I don't know whether this is really related to "unused" content, but I managed to pull this off in Danganronpa V3 for PC, and if anybody has some reverse-engineering experience I'd appreciate some insight into taking it further:
leilei 12/4/2017 2:54 AM
buy them prism helms
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:55 AM
I remember ROMhacking
2:55 AM
lol
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:55 AM
lol
2:55 AM
this is rom hacking from THE FUTURE!!!
leilei 12/4/2017 2:55 AM
also maybe use ayla to steal rainbowdresses from zeal's left hand
2:55 AM
a few times
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:56 AM
Rewriting the FF4 script to include stupid amounts of swearing
leilei 12/4/2017 2:56 AM
but tellah calling him an asshole is part of the original accurate japanese!1!!
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:56 AM
Because that's what you do when it's 1997 and you're 12.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:57 AM
I was actually thinking of showing this to the people at Games Repainted, imagine what you could do with a game like this!
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:57 AM
Or 2017 and still 12
2:57 AM
;3
leilei 12/4/2017 2:57 AM
havent you seen dragon ball z uncensored!!? its the south park of japan
Luminar 12/4/2017 2:57 AM
Oh hello
2:57 AM
So I guess the discord server is already successful
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:57 AM
I should re-read the Legends Localization for FF4
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:58 AM
I don't know if I'd say "successful"
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:58 AM
It's popular at least
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:58 AM
I mean, it exists, and there are people here
2:58 AM
but the signal to noise ratio is abysmal. hopefully that evens out once the "ooh, shiny" wears off (edited)
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:58 AM
We've already had large amounts of people, neonazi trolls and witless spammers
2:58 AM
I'd say that's successful
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 2:59 AM
Probably. Actually, a lot of that last conversation should probably be in "off-topic" now that I think about it
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:59 AM
yes
2:59 AM
but there's also a very strange discussion in #deleted-channel that honestly feels like two bots holding a prescripted conversation
Neko May 12/4/2017 2:59 AM
We DID get back to games, at least
leilei 12/4/2017 3:00 AM
and somehow it's still about that guy
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:00 AM
Maybe we should have a gaming-related text channel, to help separate it from the TCRF gaming stuff, while also keeping "off-topic" more isolated?
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 3:00 AM
perhpas
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:01 AM
off-topic might be seen more as an invitation to $h!tpost instead of simply a place to talk about random stuff
Anony1200 12/4/2017 3:01 AM
listen pal
3:01 AM
you callin' me a bot?
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:02 AM
uh-oh, the bot's mad at you, Xkeeper
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:02 AM
lol
Elyos 12/4/2017 3:03 AM
Off-topic is trash
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Neko May 12/4/2017 3:03 AM
yawns
Anony1200 12/4/2017 3:04 AM
thanks for yawning
Krisan Thyme joined the server. 12/4/2017 3:04 AM
Anony1200 12/4/2017 3:04 AM
I'm glad a bunch of muted people are piling up into the voice chat
3:04 AM
the silent chat
Elyos 12/4/2017 3:04 AM
I would unmute, but all you would hear is DRv3
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:05 AM
oh hey! didnt even recognize your username
Elyos 12/4/2017 3:05 AM
>Home for Infinite Losers I agree with that
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:05 AM
I mean, I can't get enough of DRV3, so I'm totally fine with that
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:06 AM
I should probably report to Discord that the emoji next to the categories are cut off for me.
3:06 AM
I am a beta tester, after all.
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3:07 AM
I don't think they ever specified HOW to report things, though. X3
Anony1200 12/4/2017 3:07 AM
uh excuse me sir it's a prototype tester
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:07 AM
I guess email?
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:07 AM
They have a Discord server
Anony1200 12/4/2017 3:07 AM
subreddit's a good place to drop bug reports and the like
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:07 AM
I don't use Reddit
Anony1200 12/4/2017 3:08 AM
I don't like to use reddit but there's just a couple of things on it that generally aren't anywhere else
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:08 AM
There's a Discord Testers server, but I can't give the invite link
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:08 AM
Hm.
Elyos 12/4/2017 3:08 AM
To do: Protect the discord server from trolls and spammers.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:09 AM
Lol soon we're gonna add "To-do" and "stubby" tags to individual messages on discord
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:09 AM
@(Old Account) CaptainSwag101: Well, you could let them know for me, and tell them they can get in touch with me.
Anony1200 12/4/2017 3:09 AM
when are we adding a To Don't category
3:09 AM
like an evil red cactus that warns you to avoid stuff
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:09 AM
"I hate you." <--- This post is stubby. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue this shitpost?
Elyos 12/4/2017 3:10 AM
This message is rather stubbly and could use some expansion. okay, I'll stop
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:10 AM
Wait, found it
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:10 AM
I just know that a while ago, the GPS offered to let me be a beta tester, and since the normal app wouldn't install, I went for it. X3
Incineroar 12/4/2017 3:11 AM
I'm on the Discord Testers server too so
leilei 12/4/2017 3:11 AM
need that unused face in the emotes
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:11 AM
GPS was giving me headaches earlier this year, giving me Error 497 on everything.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 3:11 AM
Oh the SMB2 smiley?
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:11 AM
Google was no help
Incineroar 12/4/2017 3:11 AM
That's a necessity
leilei 12/4/2017 3:11 AM
yeah
3:12 AM
all-stars version of it probably
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/4/2017 3:12 AM
maybe the SMB3 golden cheep cheep too
3:12 AM
inb4 we add literally every 16x16 unused sprite as an emote (edited)
Neko May 12/4/2017 3:13 AM
lol
Elyos 12/4/2017 3:13 AM
if only the limit wasnt 50 (edited)
Incineroar 12/4/2017 3:13 AM
^
leilei 12/4/2017 3:16 AM
Toast joined the server. 12/4/2017 3:39 AM
Toast 12/4/2017 3:40 AM
yuh
Elyos 12/4/2017 3:42 AM
yum
Deleted User joined the server. 12/4/2017 3:53 AM
aldelaro5 joined the server. 12/4/2017 3:54 AM
eientei 12/4/2017 3:57 AM
Sup @Toast
eleanorOpossum joined the server. 12/4/2017 4:09 AM
Toast 12/4/2017 4:25 AM
nm
notwa 12/4/2017 4:31 AM
oh it looks like i was pulled in here from patreon or something? hi
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 4:34 AM
yeah that seems to ahve happened. hey
eientei 12/4/2017 4:36 AM
Can @TCRF IRC Bot be set to ignore ChaosGamma?
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 4:42 AM
you'd have to ask @Lil-G
eientei 12/4/2017 4:44 AM
Yeah, will do
4:44 AM
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isak joined the server. 12/4/2017 4:47 AM
isak 12/4/2017 4:48 AM
this blew up harder than i thought it would
4:48 AM
lol
Pyradon 12/4/2017 5:02 AM
So I was kind of confused when I woke up to notifications from a server I don't remember joining?
5:02 AM
But then I noticed it was only made last night, and also remembered I probably got an invite because I'm a patron.
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 5:02 AM
Patreon apparently auto-added people who linked their Patreon & were supporters
5:02 AM
so, you aren't alone in being really confused
Chaz 12/4/2017 5:02 AM
Yeah, I got auto-added
5:03 AM
(I also just noticed that there's a higher tier of Patreon pledge for TCRF so I just pledged to that. \o/)
Pyradon 12/4/2017 5:03 AM
Huh. Last I checked, Discord-Patreon linking was buggy and didn't work right.
5:04 AM
But, you know, it's a thing. TCRF is super rad, so.
Chaz 12/4/2017 5:06 AM
Yeah, it's an excellent wiki o/
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 5:07 AM
^ true
Chorus Line 12/4/2017 5:08 AM
tfw been an editor for ~4 yrs
5:08 AM
Chaz 12/4/2017 5:09 AM
Full admission - Sometimes if I'm having trouble with anxiety or just having trouble relaxing or getting to sleep I'll hop onto TCRF and just check out articles at random, it's a pretty chill site
eientei 12/4/2017 5:10 AM
If you like chill jazz remixes of game music, listen to some insaneintherainmusic
Pyradon 12/4/2017 5:10 AM
I am endlessly fascinated with cut content from games. Like, no joke.
5:11 AM
I wish I could talk to the developers of some of these games, like Mario 3 and C&C Generals, and ask them about the design decisions that caused them to drop that stuff from the game.
eientei 12/4/2017 5:11 AM
@Pyradon and let me guess: Marathon is the second-most fascinating thing to you?
Pyradon 12/4/2017 5:11 AM
It's certainly up there! ouo
Chorus Line 12/4/2017 5:12 AM
I wish more game devs did commentary things
5:12 AM
Valve had a really good method of doing them for their games with the nodes
Chaz 12/4/2017 5:12 AM
Ooh, yeah
eientei 12/4/2017 5:13 AM
EA DICE doing a commentary though
Chaz 12/4/2017 5:14 AM
I just like seeing the parts of games that the devs likely never intended for anyone to see. Cut content, hidden messages, secret areas, stuff like that. I guess that's why I love seeing glitch videos, the Boundary Break series and stuff like that.
Bisqwit joined the server. 12/4/2017 7:21 AM
Halfbit 12/4/2017 7:21 AM
Hi Bisqwit!
Luminar 12/4/2017 7:21 AM
Hi
Bisqwit 12/4/2017 7:21 AM
Hello
mickdermack joined the server. 12/4/2017 7:21 AM
Luminar 12/4/2017 7:21 AM
Hi
Flygon 12/4/2017 8:10 AM
"Leave your weapons by the door"
8:10 AM
I always suspected @Bisqwit was the most dangerous man of us all.
Bisqwit 12/4/2017 8:11 AM
Bummer. I was so looking forward to inciting some revolver dance.
Flygon 12/4/2017 8:11 AM
Make do.
8:11 AM
Eat a Watermelon.
8:11 AM
Stockpile seeds.
8:11 AM
:3
alan joined the server. 12/4/2017 8:12 AM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 8:38 AM
8:38 AM
alan 12/4/2017 8:41 AM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 8:42 AM
Pyradon 12/4/2017 8:42 AM
So is there a story behind the whole cactus thing, or what?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 8:42 AM
its an unused texture in sm64
Pyradon 12/4/2017 8:42 AM
Oh!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 8:43 AM
This is still one of my favorite discoveries
8:43 AM
It's in the files of Ratchet Deadlocked
Pyradon 12/4/2017 8:43 AM
Dafuq is that.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 8:44 AM
The CEO of Insomniac Games with a mullet
8:44 AM
He looks like Jesus almost
leilei 12/4/2017 8:52 AM
this (edited)
Azure joined the server. 12/4/2017 9:33 AM
Azure 12/4/2017 9:34 AM
Hiccup joined the server. 12/4/2017 10:12 AM
Halfbit 12/4/2017 10:12 AM
Hello
RacieB joined the server. 12/4/2017 10:17 AM
DevEd joined the server. 12/4/2017 10:22 AM
DevEd 12/4/2017 10:23 AM
ohai
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/4/2017 10:23 AM
Greetings Human Mortal(s)
Elyos 12/4/2017 10:23 AM
Oh my
DevEd 12/4/2017 10:24 AM
i see some of the official TCRF admins are already here
10:24 AM
cool
/dev/urandom 12/4/2017 10:39 AM
aww, so many awesome folks here already! ^o^
Luminar 12/4/2017 10:43 AM
Welcome people
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 10:47 AM
Halfbit 12/4/2017 11:00 AM
Hi Newbs
Smoke 12/4/2017 11:52 AM
Yay Im part of the club now
Deleted User 12/4/2017 12:09 PM
b-b-b-
12:09 PM
:c
12:13 PM
Cool
Halfbit 12/4/2017 12:15 PM
Does anyone know if byuu has a discord?
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 12:16 PM
Knowing byuu I would be very surprised
Halfbit 12/4/2017 12:16 PM
I haven’t seen any evidence of it though
Laenthor 12/4/2017 12:35 PM
So is the discord official or is it still in the test phase?
Luminar 12/4/2017 12:44 PM
what is the cacti club? asked in off-topic too but maybe #tcrf is a better place to ask
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 12:45 PM
patreon pals
Deleted User 12/4/2017 12:46 PM
It may be for people who has contribi........oh
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 12:46 PM
@Laenthor its as official as it's going to get
Laenthor 12/4/2017 12:46 PM
Alright, it's official in my book ;P
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 12:46 PM
I think the IRC topic is "officially unofficial" or vice-versa
Luminar 12/4/2017 12:47 PM
oh ok, that makes sense
Laenthor 12/4/2017 1:12 PM
I was simply asking because I noticed that the group picture changed, that's all
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 1:13 PM
yeah
Chaz 12/4/2017 1:13 PM
Yeah, this is The Cactus Ranch Farm now. \o/(I actually don't know why the cacti, I've been out of the loop a little bit so I'm just coming up with stuff whoops)
Azure 12/4/2017 1:15 PM
DevEd 12/4/2017 1:17 PM
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:18 PM
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 1:19 PM
I explained the cactus thing earlier. Maybe I should write about it
Laenthor 12/4/2017 1:19 PM
Where does come from? I've heard that it's from mario 64 but I'm not sure anymore
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:19 PM
Hmmm.......
DevEd 12/4/2017 1:19 PM
it's from mario 64
Laenthor 12/4/2017 1:19 PM
oh okay
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:19 PM
Pulls out N64
DevEd 12/4/2017 1:19 PM
https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_64_(Nintendo_64)/Unused_Textures#Cactus
Unused Textures
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:19 PM
Sadly no mario 64 game
Laenthor 12/4/2017 1:20 PM
hun, so that became the "mascot" of the website?
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:20 PM
Nice
1:27 PM
Its a good mascot
1:27 PM
Pets cactus
1:27 PM
Ow
Azure 12/4/2017 1:29 PM
this is the second discord I'm in that has cacti as an in-joke
Hendricks266 joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:30 PM
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:31 PM
@Azure whats the first one?
Azure 12/4/2017 1:32 PM
CrossCode, an indie game
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:32 PM
Hmmm.....
1:32 PM
Nice
Azure 12/4/2017 1:32 PM
I dunno where it started, people just do big emoji stories involving shields and cacti
alan 12/4/2017 1:33 PM
welcome to my cacti farm
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:33 PM
By chance, how long would you guys think it would take to port Pokemon Yellow to an N64 engine?
alan 12/4/2017 1:34 PM
probably very long
1:35 PM
pretty much how the gameboy handles things isnt like N64 so it needs to be built from the ground up
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:35 PM
Yep
1:35 PM
I figured
1:36 PM
Welp. Time to drop that NES Legend of Zelda romhack then @alan and get started. Or try
alan 12/4/2017 1:36 PM
are you starting something right now?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:36 PM
1:36 PM
i'm watering my farm (edited)
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:36 PM
I was gonna make a romhack for TLOZ for the NES
alan 12/4/2017 1:37 PM
a happy farm makes a happy man
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:37 PM
Actually i started on it yesterday and a random thought of a Pokemon Yellow N64 port popped into my head while working (edited)
Azure 12/4/2017 1:38 PM
1:38 PM
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:38 PM
1:39 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:39 PM
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:39 PM
I kinda want to get back into romhacking, but I have a million other priorities
1:40 PM
perhaps once school is done (Which is the biggest of them all), I'll head back to the pair of projects I was doing beforehand
1:41 PM
one of which may permit me to head back to working on a TCRF page I started ages ago
1:41 PM
(Which will also push me to finish a Proto: page and a Prerelease: page too) (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:42 PM
I still need to finish the prototype page for the RAC1 beta
Laenthor 12/4/2017 1:42 PM
I don't have any projects planned because if I don't go to school I work elsewhere, but I like fiddling around the old unreal engines in my free time. Not doing anything serious with that though
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:42 PM
There's a giant fucking mountain of screenshots to upload
alan 12/4/2017 1:42 PM
i would look more into the miitopia page i started buut
1:42 PM
theres no time and for whatever reason, ohana3ds stopped working on my computer
BatElite joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:43 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:43 PM
hello
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:43 PM
Hello @BatElite
!registerkey PPLTOasT joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:43 PM
BatElite 12/4/2017 1:43 PM
Hello
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/4/2017 1:44 PM
1:44 PM
i joined just so i could see if this was an emote
1:44 PM
thanks
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:44 PM
I did have a close-to-complete page of a Pre-release for Pokemon Diamond and Pearl
1:44 PM
I still have a few things to write, clarify, and rip from the final game for it though
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:44 PM
We should change the magnifying glass in the channel category to a cactus
Incineroar 12/4/2017 1:45 PM
I also have to dig around for some scans because a site I should have gotten them from shut down
Luminar 12/4/2017 1:46 PM
hello
Deleted User joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:46 PM
Azure 12/4/2017 1:47 PM
you should flip it horizontally every few weeks and see if anyone notices
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:47 PM
1:48 PM
alan 12/4/2017 1:49 PM
strong boy will protec his cacti
Azure 12/4/2017 1:49 PM
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:49 PM
Alhifar joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:49 PM
Deleted User 12/4/2017 1:50 PM
Mr. Accident joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:52 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:53 PM
hello humans
1:53 PM
welcome to the cactus farm
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 1:53 PM
hello internet
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/4/2017 1:54 PM
hello Xcactus
clip joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:54 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:54 PM
Hello
Azure 12/4/2017 1:55 PM
RatcheT2497 joined the server. 12/4/2017 1:55 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 1:55 PM
hello nerd
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/4/2017 1:57 PM
can we setup weekly picross nights
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:00 PM
What other emotes could we add
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/4/2017 2:00 PM
a hoarded BETA
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:01 PM
we should make this an emote
isak 12/4/2017 2:02 PM
no pls dont
Azure 12/4/2017 2:03 PM
SM64 blargg emote?
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:05 PM
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:05 PM
the really awful meme emotes are probably going to be deleted, i just figured people would be able to pick out some good ones
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:05 PM
:c
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:06 PM
I mean there's always making your own container server(s) and Discord Nitro ™
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:06 PM
True
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:06 PM
or joining global emote servers that dont require nitro
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:06 PM
Bingo.
2:06 PM
Oh wait
2:07 PM
I forgot something. Brb
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:07 PM
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:08 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:08 PM
2:09 PM
i just realized we have 99 members
2:09 PM
who will be the lucky 100th member???
Luminar 12/4/2017 2:11 PM
external emojis are enabled?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:11 PM
ja
1
Knives joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:11 PM
Chaz 12/4/2017 2:11 PM
Belatedly I've read back and found the context for the cactus. \o/ I am no longer out of the loop
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:11 PM
100TH MEMBER
Chaz 12/4/2017 2:11 PM
Also hi Revya!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:12 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Knives 12/4/2017 2:12 PM
(It's just me again, I'm a dork)
Azure 12/4/2017 2:12 PM
!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:12 PM
https://youtu.be/32tJZvx30Dk
A Sneaker
Mr. Krabs' Victory Dance
2:12 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Chaz 12/4/2017 2:13 PM
There is a lot of screaming happening
twilight sparkle joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:13 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:13 PM
uhhh
quınn joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:14 PM
Eski joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:14 PM
Evil Sonic joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:14 PM
Luminar 12/4/2017 2:14 PM
welcome people
Dandy joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:14 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:14 PM
hello nerds
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:15 PM
https://twitter.com/CuttingRoomWiki/status/937761711183896576
TheCuttingRoomFloor (@CuttingRoomWiki)
We have a Discord server (finally?). https://t.co/wEqiUtOvd3
quınn 12/4/2017 2:15 PM
heyo
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:15 PM
I posted it here, so you'll probably see some more joins for a while
Dandy 12/4/2017 2:15 PM
Aw yeah
kooshiscool joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:15 PM
🦨💛Jess/Rave💙🦨 joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:15 PM
kooshiscool 12/4/2017 2:15 PM
I’m here for the unused stuff in Vidya games
TraceBullet joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:15 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:15 PM
https://youtu.be/JLojlkgckYo
darts69sword
Who Are You People
2:16 PM
welcome :P
silversteellady joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:16 PM
big shoebill joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:16 PM
Nekorun joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:16 PM
🦨💛Jess/Rave💙🦨 12/4/2017 2:16 PM
Woah! Hey y'all!
Cloudberry joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:17 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:17 PM
have a drink
2:17 PM
VeeBot joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:17 PM
🦨💛Jess/Rave💙🦨 12/4/2017 2:18 PM
drinky drink
Chaz 12/4/2017 2:18 PM
\o/
Cloudberry 12/4/2017 2:18 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/4/2017 2:18 PM
so is the server official then?
🦨💛Jess/Rave💙🦨 12/4/2017 2:18 PM
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:18 PM
it's officially unofficial.
2:18 PM
or unofficially official.
2:19 PM
either way.
🦨💛Jess/Rave💙🦨 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
hmm
2Tie joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
VeeBot 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
What about unofficially unofficial
🦨💛Jess/Rave💙🦨 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
how about officially official
twilight sparkle 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
why not both
sawa joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
2Tie 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
how about
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
🦨💛Jess/Rave💙🦨 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
how about
2Tie 12/4/2017 2:19 PM
TODO: is this official?
VeeBot 12/4/2017 2:20 PM
Also I didn't know that Discord had join messages
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:20 PM
Yes
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:20 PM
it got them fairly recently.
punished hamster joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:20 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:20 PM
@2Tie you forgot to format smh (edited)
twilight sparkle 12/4/2017 2:20 PM
i don't like it
🦨💛Jess/Rave💙🦨 12/4/2017 2:20 PM
Specifically: this page blows
twilight sparkle 12/4/2017 2:20 PM
it makes it so much harder being invisibl
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:20 PM
{{todo|Is this official?}}
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:21 PM
@twilight sparkle that's true, yes.
VeeBot 12/4/2017 2:21 PM
{{todo|Get on the payload}}
2Tie 12/4/2017 2:21 PM
`TODO: this server doesn't seem unused to me`
twilight sparkle 12/4/2017 2:21 PM
{{todo|it to them}}
2:21 PM
i apologize
2Tie 12/4/2017 2:22 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:22 PM
Sayuri joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:22 PM
punished hamster 12/4/2017 2:22 PM
It is unused, but it's completely functional (edited)
Frieze joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:22 PM
FighBat joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:22 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:23 PM
Should we have a channel for the join messages?
Élafru joined the server. 12/4/2017 2:23 PM
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:23 PM
That or just disable them
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:23 PM
Probably disable at this point
2:23 PM
We have them posted in the staff channel anyway
2:23 PM
❌ disabled
Chaz 12/4/2017 2:23 PM
Can be handy to- yeah I was gonna say as long as they're in a staff channel so that you folks can keep track of new members
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:24 PM
they're more useful in smaller, tighter communities
Chaz 12/4/2017 2:24 PM
Yeah
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:24 PM
implying tcrf isn't a small, tight community
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:25 PM
Well, I mean compared to some other places.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:25 PM
True
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:26 PM
It's niche, but I wouldn't really say it's small.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:26 PM
Is there any new unused content found in any games @Xkeeper? (edited)
Chaz 12/4/2017 2:26 PM
Yeah, there's a lotta folks on here (We did just pass 100 members)
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:26 PM
My perception might be warped because a "large" community was defined for me before the advent of ~social media~.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:26 PM
we just hit 120 users
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:26 PM
@Deleted User depends. there's a ton of games with stuff in them.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:27 PM
I managed to kill a site's IRC in about three weeks, but it's only at about 70 users so I guess there's a difference there
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:27 PM
Switch games or PS4 game with its contents already scavanged inside
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:27 PM
And only about 30 users actually active
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:28 PM
Im trying to get PS3IRC running
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:28 PM
The problem with Discord/IRC is that you have people who "only" use one or the other, and they have their own reasons.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:28 PM
Yeah, there will be people adamant about sticking to IRC
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:28 PM
So you end up fragmenting things. Even here, we have an #irc channel, but it's only that channel; there isn't a good way to join that with the other channels.
Nex 12/4/2017 2:28 PM
hi
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/4/2017 2:28 PM
hello
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:29 PM
Hey @Nex
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:29 PM
True.
Nex 12/4/2017 2:29 PM
finally a server where I can talk about things I find but I'm too lazy to document
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:29 PM
We did have a bridge but it constantly broke
2:29 PM
So we gave up with it lol
2:29 PM
I think we had like
2:29 PM
One or two people still using IRC
2:30 PM
Out of about 70
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:30 PM
Pepole cling to IRC is understandable but they dont realize that Discord is similar to IRC
2:30 PM
In its ways
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:30 PM
It's basically a media rich IRC that has dedicated clients on most major platforms
alan 12/4/2017 2:30 PM
people probs use IRC for its compatibility of some sorts
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:30 PM
That and you can run it in a terminal
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:31 PM
I mean even still theres the web version
2:31 PM
If people are stuck on compatibility
2:31 PM
Just need a browser
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:31 PM
I can use Discord on my XP box by just using a web browser
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:31 PM
IRC is still open source and offers much more control over what goes on than Discord.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:32 PM
Granted using the browser basically kills it from doing anything else
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:32 PM
Again. True
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:32 PM
That is true though
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:32 PM
You can sort of get around that by doing things with Discord bots (hey @CactusTron 5000 and friends), but it just feels clunkier.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:32 PM
I use both from time to time
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:32 PM
I did make an IRC client that was functional to a degree and used an Arduino terminal for input
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:32 PM
Discord and IRC
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:33 PM
So being an open platform is a plus
Xkeeper 12/4/2017 2:33 PM
But at the same time, IRC really sucks. Character sets are still awful (though most people use latin1-utf8 as a hack), multi-client or persistence is a nightmare unless you're willing to host your own bouncer or pay for one, configuration can be annoying
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:33 PM
That was my gripe with it tbh
2:33 PM
When I switched from LTE to WiFi, I had to wait for the ping timeout sometimes
2:34 PM
Since I didn't have a bouncer
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:35 PM
Never experienced timeout problems
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:35 PM
It was because of the ip address change
2:35 PM
I lost connection immediately
2:37 PM
Nickserv did help a bit
2:37 PM
But doing it all on a phone was rather annoying
Nex 12/4/2017 2:38 PM
tfw you want to start a new page but already got 2 in the works
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:38 PM
Same
Nex 12/4/2017 2:39 PM
realistically it will only add up ._.
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:39 PM
I really need to finish that Diamond and Pearl prerelease page ugh
Nex 12/4/2017 2:39 PM
we worked on that in like 2015
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:39 PM
It's been sitting for so long
Nex 12/4/2017 2:39 PM
lmfao
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:40 PM
Blame school for that one lol
Nex 12/4/2017 2:40 PM
also sometimes my laptop is too crap to record unused content rip
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:41 PM
And now that I understand the premises of assembly, I want to get back to disassembling that game and audio engine
Nex 12/4/2017 2:42 PM
the GAX engine or how it was called?
Incineroar 12/4/2017 2:42 PM
Ye
2:43 PM
I did look at the sequence stuff and figured a bit out of it, but it's definitely got the tracker format going for it
2:45 PM
Kinda nice that I got the streaming format RE'd though
2:45 PM
Wasn't terrible
Deleted User 12/4/2017 2:56 PM
Awesome. Mega Man 11 is coming
2Tie 12/4/2017 3:00 PM
it def looks like a megaman game, too
ShinyQuagsire 12/4/2017 3:05 PM
*hacker voice* I'm in
Deleted User 12/4/2017 3:06 PM
Lol
Deleted User 12/4/2017 3:18 PM
ayyyyyy
Incineroar 12/4/2017 3:19 PM
Yo @ShinyQuagsire
ShinyQuagsire 12/4/2017 3:20 PM
@Incineroar
alan 12/4/2017 3:20 PM
holy crap its shiny quagsire
3:20 PM
Incineroar 12/4/2017 3:20 PM
Didn't think it'd long before you came here haha
ShinyQuagsire 12/4/2017 3:20 PM
time to document more useless facts about Yoda Stories
Incineroar 12/4/2017 3:21 PM
I wonder if Normmatt is here yet
3:21 PM
Nope, not showing up in mentions yet
DevEd 12/4/2017 3:21 PM
`Yoda Stories`
3:21 PM
windows version or GBC version?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/4/2017 3:22 PM
yoda stories is actually star wars ix
Incineroar 12/4/2017 3:28 PM
@DevEd iirc he was doing the Windows version
3:32 PM
I'm doing Crash Bandicoot 2 on the GBA myself but that project has been on hiatus for a few years so
ShinyQuagsire 12/4/2017 3:39 PM
@DevEd Windows, I can't RE Z80 to save my life
DevEd 12/4/2017 3:43 PM
i can
3:43 PM
also reminder that the gb's cpu is not z80
ShinyQuagsire 12/4/2017 3:43 PM
yeah it's like almost z80
DevEd 12/4/2017 3:43 PM
all it has in common with z80 is the assembly syntax, technically it's more like an intel 8080 (edited)
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 3:44 PM
Because Intel enforced the copyrights on their assembly syntax
3:44 PM
Also 8080 assembly syntax is shit
DevEd 12/4/2017 3:44 PM
i know
ShinyQuagsire 12/4/2017 3:44 PM
ARM is my best friend
DevEd 12/4/2017 3:44 PM
lr35092 is mine
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 3:44 PM
example
3:45 PM
Z80: LD (HL),A
3:45 PM
stores A in the address contained in HL
DevEd 12/4/2017 3:45 PM
(lr35092 is the name of the cpu used in the gb)
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 3:45 PM
8080: MOV M, A
3:45 PM
this requires you to remember that "M" means "address contained in HL"
3:45 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_8080#Example_code
Intel 8080
The Intel 8080 ("eighty-eighty") was the second 8-bit microprocessor designed and manufactured by Intel and was released in April 1974. It is an extended and enhanced variant of the earlier 8008 design, although without binary compatibility. The ...
3:46 PM
8080: LDAX D
3:46 PM
loads A from (DE) - here you have to remember that it's implied that D refers to the DE register pair
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 3:59 PM
>_>
3:59 PM
<_<
3:59 PM
3:59 PM
that doesn't really show up well as an emoji
2Tie 12/4/2017 4:00 PM
needs higher contrast
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 4:00 PM
Might edit it and reupload later
Azure 12/4/2017 4:10 PM
Zeether 12/4/2017 4:11 PM
we should make star ixiom guy an emote
4:12 PM
the "I'm writing the proposal" guy
Deleted User 12/4/2017 4:30 PM
Dos 12/4/2017 5:30 PM
Everybody who joins this server should be greeted with a "hello hacker fucker"
Nex 12/4/2017 5:33 PM
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 5:33 PM
Nex 12/4/2017 5:35 PM
Deleted User 12/4/2017 5:35 PM
ahem
5:35 PM
Hewwo? (´・ω・`)
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 5:36 PM
moo
Deleted User 12/4/2017 5:36 PM
wahoo
5:38 PM
You all can mention me as 312
LuigiUltra64 12/4/2017 5:50 PM
Does anyone here know how to decrypt/analyze a GBA ROM?
Halfbit 12/4/2017 5:50 PM
Nope
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/4/2017 5:50 PM
depends on the game
5:51 PM
most do use lz77 for the compression
Incineroar 12/4/2017 6:00 PM
IDA Pro
6:00 PM
Go hard or go home
2Tie 12/4/2017 6:49 PM
HxD
6:50 PM
go harder or go to sleep
6:51 PM
alternatively;
6:51 PM
Microsoft Word
6:51 PM
go big or go take a shower
Deleted User 12/4/2017 7:16 PM
oh yay
7:16 PM
im bunboon
Incineroar 12/4/2017 7:27 PM
@2Tie better than word is notepad
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 7:29 PM
Speaking of noobs
7:29 PM
Hi @gold lightning
gold lightning 12/4/2017 7:29 PM
:V
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 7:35 PM
ATTENTION
7:35 PM
https://yls8.mtheall.com/ninupdates/reports.php?date=12-04-17_07-05-12&sys=hac
7:35 PM
Switch update
7:36 PM
"Resolved an issue that caused motion controls to respond incorrectly when playing games that use the feature"
Smoke 12/4/2017 7:36 PM
This looks interesting
GerbilSoft 12/4/2017 7:36 PM
4.1.0
Smoke 12/4/2017 7:38 PM
Aw man, it's in Japanese. Stupid 10 year old me
Dprotp 12/4/2017 8:35 PM
woah
8:35 PM
new discord
8:36 PM
magically in it!!!
divingkxt 12/4/2017 8:54 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:Berglum.jpg
File:Berglum.jpg
8:55 PM
This has to be some joke graphic accidentally included,
8:55 PM
or included as some weird easter egg.
8:55 PM
Not quite like that Microsoft graphic found in Rugrats: Time Travelers.
Deleted User 12/4/2017 9:03 PM
hey dorito
9:04 PM
lol is that uh
9:04 PM
the dude from jackass
9:04 PM
johnny knoxville
9:07 PM
@GerbilSoft cant wait for update 4.2.0
alan 12/4/2017 9:20 PM
inb4 nintendo skips it by going to 4.1.1
divingkxt 12/4/2017 9:34 PM
AIM is dead, let's kill AIM.
9:34 PM
(AOL Instant Messenger)
9:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXtBc_0JVOI
Juniper S
Summon Night 5 - Debug Menu Access
9:37 PM
" From the menu in your house just press the four face buttons simultaneously. You can buffer this input by bringing up the home menu, and just holding all four buttons down while returning to the game. "
9:37 PM
Wow.
9:37 PM
Pretty sure it's being run in an emu, but still, wow.
9:37 PM
"Bully With Debug Menu (Cheat) apk"
9:38 PM
Would link but goddamn, there are loads of spambots with links to scummy APK hack sites.
FMecha 12/4/2017 10:48 PM
something I keep asking, what would unused playable cars in racing games be treated as? unused characters or what?
divingkxt 12/4/2017 10:52 PM
Unused characters?
10:52 PM
Best thing I can think of.
Halfbit 12/4/2017 10:53 PM
Unused Cars
divingkxt 12/4/2017 10:53 PM
leilei 12/4/2017 11:00 PM
<insert transformer>
divingkxt 12/4/2017 11:26 PM
In my opinion, it's depressing how many games get rushed.
11:26 PM
And will be rushed for that matter.
Halfbit 12/4/2017 11:27 PM
Well as Miyamoto once said
11:27 PM
“A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad”
divingkxt 12/4/2017 11:28 PM
See also: The Ultima series
11:28 PM
Ultima 9 was delayed, but more because of engine changes demanded by execs.
11:28 PM
Shame it doesn't have much of an article still.
Maddy 12/4/2017 11:52 PM
Hello
divingkxt 12/4/2017 11:56 PM
Hi.
11:56 PM
What have you been doing as of late?
Maddy 12/4/2017 11:56 PM
uh
11:57 PM
I don't really know
11:57 PM
Unused-content-in-games-wise, or just in general?
divingkxt 12/4/2017 11:57 PM
Unused-content-in-games-wise
Maddy 12/4/2017 11:58 PM
I found a few unused animations in a 3ds game, Rhythm Heaven Megamix
11:58 PM
since an animation editor was released recently
betterwhenfrozen 12/4/2017 11:59 PM
@Maddy Ooh, I want to see!
Maddy 12/5/2017 12:00 AM
I don't have them on-hand but i'll post screenshots or gifs as soon as i can
12:01 AM
because my hard drive failed recently and i lost a bunch of files
12:02 AM
Including a few prototypes of a pc/switch rhythm game that's not even out yet but eh whatever (edited)
Chorus Line 12/5/2017 12:02 AM
Maddy 12/5/2017 12:02 AM
The dev would probably be mad at me if i released the files from that anyways
12:03 AM
I'm happy just datamining an early version of the level editor
12:03 AM
or the flash version from 2013
12:03 AM
@Chaz hello i did not know you were here
12:03 AM
do not speak of this speak
Chaz 12/5/2017 12:03 AM
o/
Maddy 12/5/2017 12:04 AM
But anyway hi
12:04 AM
Why am i paranoid about someone telling the devs about what i said. I literally just said i lost the files. theyre gone
12:04 AM
haha
12:05 AM
anyways
12:05 AM
gonna have to decompile rhythm heaven megamix soon so i can get those unused animations
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Maddy 12/5/2017 12:13 AM
@divingkxt Would i be able to advertise a modding server here or should i refrain from advertising? If i'm not allowed to then you guys should add that to the rules (edited)
divingkxt 12/5/2017 12:14 AM
Eh, drop a link into it, but don't go overboard on the advertising.
12:14 AM
But yeah, there's no rules yet on advertising.
Maddy 12/5/2017 12:15 AM
Okay cool
leilei 12/5/2017 12:17 AM
bethesda pioneered in the ultima ix genre
Maddy 12/5/2017 12:17 AM
oh ok
12:17 AM
what bot was that
leilei 12/5/2017 12:17 AM
when all else chased the mmorpg moneytrain (edited)
Maddy 12/5/2017 12:17 AM
what fucking bot
12:18 AM
i'm guessing dyno
12:19 AM
mmmmmmmmh
12:20 AM
which admin wants to try to mess with dyno until it'll let us post invite links
12:21 AM
Hh nevermind (edited)
12:21 AM
nobody's awake anyways
divingkxt 12/5/2017 12:23 AM
Off to bed now, night.
Maddy 12/5/2017 12:24 AM
Night dude
12:25 AM
sorry for that
eientei 12/5/2017 1:14 AM
For PGM2 games: `Debug features (require DIP SW1:8 On): - QC TEST mode: hold P1 A+B during boot - Debug/Test mode: hold P1 B+C during boot, when ingame pressing P1 Start skips to next location, where might be other unknown debug featuers. works for both currently dumped games (orleg2, kov2nl)`
Maddy 12/5/2017 1:22 AM
While i'm awake i might as well dump a little fun fact
1:22 AM
in Rhythm Heaven Meagmix, the layouts for the goat pachinko stages are stored in the animations.
1:23 AM
odd way to do it but hey it's easy to edit
2Tie 12/5/2017 1:23 AM
oh that's neat
Maddy 12/5/2017 1:24 AM
quick screenshot i grabbed off of google images for anyone who doesn't know what i mean
1:24 AM
1:24 AM
all the brown dots' positions are stored in the animation data
1:25 AM
and there are so many layouts
1:25 AM
Again, i'd show an example, but `hard drive failure`
1:25 AM
lemme see if i can fetch a screenshot from the modding channel in a server i mod
1:27 AM
1:27 AM
heheh i was happy
1:27 AM
1:28 AM
There's a singular unused animation in the pajama game
1:28 AM
and that is
1:28 AM
1:28 AM
those are some messed up knees
1:29 AM
There was also an animation that was just a copy of the regular idle monkey animation but the filename made me think the monkeys were originally supposed to get mad when you messed up
1:30 AM
sorry it wasn't a copy of the regular idle
1:30 AM
it was blank
1:30 AM
1:30 AM
lemme see what else i found
1:31 AM
oh yeah i found a clapping animation for the soldiers in the marching game
1:31 AM
called `handcrap`
1:31 AM
1:32 AM
also an unused alternate turning animation where they pointed.
1:32 AM
1:32 AM
both of these were also unused in the GBA version
1:32 AM
although the alt turn was used in the second variation of the game in the GBA version, this animation is never seen with these sprites
1:33 AM
someone managed to re-enable it in the GBA version
1:33 AM
https://youtu.be/MSzGWZzGLgc
Mariofan5000
Marching Orders but Sarge is being very bossy today
1:33 AM
(Skip to 0:43)
1:35 AM
There's unused animations of an angry rat in rat race
1:35 AM
1:35 AM
(This animation however was used in the gba version. it looks like the devs just forgot to make it work here. lazy.)
1:36 AM
Also
1:36 AM
there are animation files for that unused test game
1:36 AM
so now we can see what it looked like
1:36 AM
and
1:36 AM
1:37 AM
1:38 AM
i like how dyno deletes your post if you put too many of the same letter next to eachother
1:38 AM
anyway i'm going to bed
1:38 AM
goodnight all
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/5/2017 6:16 AM
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!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/5/2017 6:35 AM
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/937886221086396418
Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX)
Here is some gameplay of Twilight Princess running on Nvidia Shield. It is said to be running in HD (Not sure what that means exactly in terms of the port). Wii games on Shield will cost RMB 68. https://t.co/M84WfV9eWE
Likes
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6:36 AM
6:36 AM
there was also a debug menu visible
Deleted User 12/5/2017 7:44 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT for?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/5/2017 7:44 AM
watch above
densy 12/5/2017 7:46 AM
Totally missed that I was now in this discord. Hi yall! o/
Cloudberry 12/5/2017 7:49 AM
howdy
Halfbit 12/5/2017 8:04 AM
Howdy
Nex 12/5/2017 8:48 AM
hi
Deleted User 12/5/2017 8:53 AM
Is that an official nintendo port of TP
Netscape Navigator 12/5/2017 8:57 AM
By Nvidia & licenced by Nintendo (edited)
Deleted User 12/5/2017 8:58 AM
a hulk 2003 dvd once had a demo containing the hulk video game for the xbox
8:59 AM
it was pretty interesting
8:59 AM
you stick the lil crap to your xbox
8:59 AM
and it runs
Elyos 12/5/2017 9:17 AM
Nex 12/5/2017 9:27 AM
how is it going lads?
Deleted User 12/5/2017 9:30 AM
good
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:42 AM
Fine
Incineroar 12/5/2017 10:15 AM
@Deleted User the movie Robots also has a demo game on it. Fun fact: if you buy the movie brand new off the shelf today, it still has the demo, despite the fact that the 360 and One cannot run them as it's detected as a DVD and not an Xbox game
10:16 AM
I was able to rip the executable off the dvd though, I should archive it online sometime
Incineroar 12/5/2017 10:27 AM
Might also have to get another copy of that DVD, it suffers from disc rot
Nex 12/5/2017 10:31 AM
rip
Deleted User 12/5/2017 10:41 AM
Wow.
10:41 AM
Just wow.
10:42 AM
That's... actually odd to keep it in.
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/5/2017 10:45 AM
I mean, I imagine they're just using the same whatevers to print the dvd and taking it out would require actual effort
Halfbit 12/5/2017 10:50 AM
And then to document differences
Incineroar 12/5/2017 11:01 AM
It's probably easier because they'd have to change the packaging and press new discs, which requires a new die at the factory
Luminar 12/5/2017 11:04 AM
is there an easy way to somehow get PS4 digital-only games to a PC?
Nex 12/5/2017 11:46 AM
you can download ps4 pkgs but I don't know of a way on pc to unpack those
Luminar 12/5/2017 11:47 AM
same
11:47 AM
maybe if there was a way to get the unpacked files to the pc....
11:47 AM
but the ps4 hdd has a unique format
11:48 AM
I have the leaked ps4 sdk, would it be useful in this case?
Borman 12/5/2017 12:01 PM
Dont think it is, there is some sort of block that prevents it, either encryption or something else. A few people have done it with some hacked PS4s I believe, see the PT files that leaked, but Im not sure on the specifics.
Luminar 12/5/2017 12:04 PM
Incineroar 12/5/2017 12:13 PM
for anyone interested in old school Mythbusters: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/7hqwlo/im_grant_imahara_robot_builder_engineer_model/?st=jatvreb2&sh=5a3f25ab
I'm Grant Imahara, robot builder, engineer, model maker and former co-host of MythBusters! • r/IAmA
Hi, Reddit, it's Grant Imahara, TV host, engineer, maker, and special effects technician. I'm back from my...
Incineroar 12/5/2017 1:14 PM
ah, yeah
1:15 PM
here we are
1:15 PM
these were straight from the DVD
1:15 PM
no idea how to even open them though
1:16 PM
tried looking it up but didn't fare too well
Halfbit 12/5/2017 1:23 PM
Unrelated, but does anybody know if when you dump an SNES cartridge with save data already on it, does the SRAM get transfered with the game data?
Deleted User 12/5/2017 1:27 PM
Afaik i thought they both were seperate
Halfbit 12/5/2017 1:28 PM
Idk
Incineroar 12/5/2017 1:29 PM
I think the SRAM is seperate from the ROM
Halfbit 12/5/2017 1:29 PM
Oh
Incineroar 12/5/2017 1:30 PM
might depend on the dumper though as well
1:30 PM
some may dump both into seperate files
1:30 PM
i haven't done a SNES dump before as I don't have the hardware
1:30 PM
but I imagine there's tools that do both
Halfbit 12/5/2017 1:30 PM
What about Floppy disks for example?
1:30 PM
The SM64 disk had SRAM dumps when it was public
Incineroar 12/5/2017 1:31 PM
I think with floppys it just does a 1:1 copy
1:31 PM
so whatever is on those is what is dumped
1:31 PM
save data and all
Halfbit 12/5/2017 1:31 PM
Ok
1:33 PM
And the same applies to NES, N64, etc?
Incineroar 12/5/2017 1:33 PM
more than likely
1:33 PM
when I do GBA and NDS dumps
1:33 PM
the save is seperate from the ROM
Xkeeper 12/5/2017 1:33 PM
[10:23 AM] Halfbit: Unrelated, but does anybody know if when you dump an SNES cartridge with save data already on it, does the SRAM get transfered with the game data?
1:33 PM
SRAM and ROM are different things; you have to dump them separately
Deleted User 12/5/2017 1:34 PM
I thought so
Halfbit 12/5/2017 1:34 PM
Ok. I thought that SRAM became part of the ROM when it was saved
Xkeeper 12/5/2017 1:34 PM
some tools might let you dump them together, but you'll still end up with `sfc` and `sav` or w/e
Borman 12/5/2017 1:34 PM
Floppy disks are complicated, in the computer space. Creating an image might not really preserve the disk
1:35 PM
Just imaging it can cause the copy protection to fail, then all you really have are a bunch of files.
1:36 PM
Thats why things like the Kryoflux exist
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 1:41 PM
Mmm floppy copy protection
1:41 PM
There's a few schemes I've heard of that rely on e.g. the C1541's ability to step "half tracks"
1:42 PM
Some others actually run code on the disk drive (CBM and Atari 8-bit disk drives had their own CPU)
Borman 12/5/2017 1:44 PM
Follow 4am on Twitter for Apple 2 protection. I dont get half of it, but it is incredibly fascinating what was done
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 1:45 PM
>check
1:45 PM
https://twitter.com/DiskBlitz/status/937739380151631872
John Keoni Morris (@DiskBlitz)
@a2_4am Ultima V tracks 3+ have address epilogue of AB/11 FF followed by weak bits. Tracks 0-2 have address epilog of AB FF Fx with weak bits. All data prologues have a single timing bit after them. This is physical structure, not necessarily what is being used for protection.
Nex 12/5/2017 1:46 PM
so basically dumping the copy protection too?
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 1:46 PM
Apple II disk format is controlled entirely by the main CPU, which means all sorts of fun copy protection is possible
Borman 12/5/2017 1:46 PM
Basically making a copy of the disk that matches the original as much as possible with what we have available
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 1:47 PM
Apple Lisa had an annoying copy protection feature - the first time you used a program, the system wrote its serial number to the disk
Borman 12/5/2017 1:47 PM
The idea isnt unique to floppies, but the hardware needed is less common and available.
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 1:47 PM
This is reversible with debugging tools though
1:49 PM
On the other end of the spectrum, here's the result of more modern copy protection :V
1:49 PM
https://www.wired.com/2010/12/michael-jackson-vuvuzela/
Jason Schreier
Vuvuzelas Blare on Pirated Copies of Michael Jackson: The Experience for DS
1:54 PM
Print Shop for Apple II apparently has some insane protection scheme
Incineroar 12/5/2017 1:58 PM
i remember that AP protection
1:58 PM
it was the one fun AP that I actually preferred
1:58 PM
it made the game 100% more hilarious
1:59 PM
i think I once managed to actually rip the vuvuzela sample from the game, but I have no idea where I put it
Deleted User 12/5/2017 2:25 PM
So the irc channel link is.... (edited)
Incineroar 12/5/2017 2:27 PM
hm, opening this demo in XBE Explorer shows some debugging strings
Xkeeper 12/5/2017 2:27 PM
@Deleted User server `irc.badnik.zone`, channel `#tcrf`
Incineroar 12/5/2017 2:30 PM
i can't seem to browse the filesystem though
Incineroar 12/5/2017 2:39 PM
hm, so dexbe does help
2:39 PM
a bit
2:40 PM
i now have a large file called DEMODAT
2:40 PM
pretty self-explanatory
2:45 PM
looks like it's encrypted though
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 3:04 PM
Are there any texture formats in common use here that would be worth implementing in ROM properties
3:04 PM
Current version supports Sega PVR and GVR, and DirectDraw Surface (most subformats of each)
3:04 PM
Working on adding Khronos KTX, PowerVR 3.0, and Valve VTF
Maddy 12/5/2017 3:26 PM
Fun fact: The GBA japan-only release Rhythm Tengoku
3:26 PM
it uh
3:26 PM
it uses midis
3:26 PM
like not even midis converted to any sort of special gba sequence thing
3:26 PM
just plain midis
3:26 PM
and i can replace them with hex editing
3:27 PM
uncompressed
3:27 PM
header and all
3:27 PM
okay i gtg
3:27 PM
see you all
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 3:41 PM
>GitHub doesn't allow more than 20 topics in a repo
3:41 PM
F
Revenant 12/5/2017 4:37 PM
old acc! inactive 12/5/2017 5:39 PM
@Maddy ayy
Deleted User 12/5/2017 5:55 PM
@GerbilSoft is that a bug or a feature
5:58 PM
also for texture formats: PS1's TIM, PS2's TM2, 3DS's tga variant or whatever the hell it is
5:58 PM
all of those have widespread use, but also fairly good support already with conversion tools.
Maddy 12/5/2017 5:59 PM
oh hi
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 6:01 PM
Haven't seen those
6:01 PM
Will take a look once I finish up these formats
6:01 PM
Also I'm not sure if my pvrtc 2bpp decoder is broken or if pvrtc 2bpp is just shit :v
Deleted User 12/5/2017 6:04 PM
DS could use some sort of batch conversion tool.
6:05 PM
Current process: load palette file, load image data, load layout data (if it exists, otherwise glhf)
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 6:11 PM
Separate palette file is a problem
6:11 PM
Out of scope for RP, though it shouldn't be too hard to make a standalone tool
Deleted User 12/5/2017 6:12 PM
ah
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 6:13 PM
Currently it only has dual-file support for one format, and it's handled using special cases - Dreamcast vmi/vms
Deleted User 12/5/2017 6:17 PM
Neat.
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 6:20 PM
..actually two
6:20 PM
GDI handling for DC disc images
Deleted User 12/5/2017 6:21 PM
oh nice
6:21 PM
that's pretty useful.
Maddy 12/5/2017 6:22 PM
Y'all have no idea how long it took to get a decent tool with GUI for 3ds's ctpk graphics files
6:22 PM
even longer for perfect reading/writing
6:23 PM
it was a pain back in the ctpktool days
old acc! inactive 12/5/2017 6:23 PM
rhythm heaven megamix is a bitch to edit
6:24 PM
we haven't even fully figured out models and some graphic formats
Deleted User 12/5/2017 6:24 PM
why do you need a GUI tool for ctpks
Maddy 12/5/2017 6:25 PM
Well it's more of a gui tool for a bunch of 3ds graphics formats
6:25 PM
ctpk was only added a few months back
Deleted User 12/5/2017 6:27 PM
ah
6:27 PM
what tool?
old acc! inactive 12/5/2017 6:28 PM
kuriimu/kukkii/karameru
6:28 PM
it's a 3-in-one tool
Maddy 12/5/2017 6:31 PM
mhm
6:32 PM
for text/graphics/archives
6:32 PM
very VERY useful
Deleted User 12/5/2017 6:34 PM
neat
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 6:35 PM
Depending on how common some of them are, I might consider adding it to RP
6:35 PM
6:36 PM
GVR textures from SA2
Maddy 12/5/2017 6:44 PM
Cool
Deleted User 12/5/2017 6:45 PM
@GerbilSoft idk if this counts
6:45 PM
wait nevermind im retarded
6:46 PM
6:46 PM
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 6:46 PM
wut
6:46 PM
Ha
6:46 PM
Eggman emoji
Maddy 12/5/2017 6:46 PM
Hey since you have the sa2 files on hand can you get eggman's "Huaah" hurt sound if it's not too much of a trouble
6:46 PM
I need it for something
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 6:47 PM
I don't have the audio files extracted, sorry
6:47 PM
Those were the standalone gvr files in the steam version
Maddy 12/5/2017 6:47 PM
Ahh
6:48 PM
the problem was i couldn't find it in a voice clip pack i got
Deleted User 12/5/2017 6:49 PM
see if there's something suitable here? https://www.sounds-resource.com/pc_computer/S.html
Maddy 12/5/2017 6:49 PM
i assume the problem was they only included the voice clips from the cutscenes, not the actual ingame voices
6:49 PM
yeah that was what i got
6:49 PM
i might have missed it though
6:49 PM
i don't know
old acc! inactive 12/5/2017 6:50 PM
Maddy 12/5/2017 6:50 PM
I'm modding a game to turn a character into eggman that's why i need it
6:51 PM
6:53 PM
old acc! inactive 12/5/2017 6:53 PM
mobius hatsune
Maddy 12/5/2017 6:53 PM
i did this months ago but only recently figured out sound files
6:55 PM
leilei 12/5/2017 7:05 PM
avoid the sonicoid
old acc! inactive 12/5/2017 7:13 PM
disgusting
Deleted User 12/5/2017 8:08 PM
GerbilSoft 12/5/2017 8:14 PM
Emoji ALL the things
Deleted User 12/5/2017 8:20 PM
idk if I have anything good left.
8:20 PM
good/relevant
8:21 PM
alrite that should be good for now
Azure 12/5/2017 8:26 PM
Laenthor 12/5/2017 8:26 PM
Oh jesus, didn't realise there was so many sound effect in HP3 XD 1140 files
8:27 PM
Well that's going to take me a good while
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/5/2017 8:31 PM
brain: tomodachi collection, tomodachi life, and miitomo are a series and should get a series box me: okay what's the series called brain: uh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
8:32 PM
oh right i can't end a sentence with dozens of commas for comic effect
8:33 PM
i wanted to add a series category to tomodachi collection + tomodachi life + miitomo but i'm stuck on the fact that i don't think the series ever officially got named
Deleted User 12/5/2017 8:33 PM
Miitomo seems like a Related
8:34 PM
also, "Tomodachi Series" should be fine
NWPlayer123 12/5/2017 8:46 PM
remember when Miis were all the rage, now the Switch just hides them in icons
Laenthor 12/5/2017 8:51 PM
It's like they're ashamed of their own creation or they realised that people don't actually care that much
betterwhenfrozen 12/5/2017 8:59 PM
Mii series?
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:00 PM
I always liked Miis
betterwhenfrozen 12/5/2017 9:00 PM
They're the only games that totally revolve around them, right?
Deleted User 12/5/2017 9:00 PM
Could argue Wii Sports / Resort, Wii Music, Wii Fit as all of a Mii series
9:01 PM
guess that exists tho https://tcrf.net/Category:Wii_series
Category:Wii series
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:01 PM
wii music was uh... funny in it's own way? I mean it wasn't a good game but it was so much fun
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:02 PM
I loved the shit out of Wii Music back in the day
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:02 PM
Wii Play, aka "that game that came with your free 2nd wii remote"
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:02 PM
Nowadays It’s music is too MIDIish and unbearable (edited)
9:02 PM
Lol
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:03 PM
No one played wii play for more than 5 hours. What a waste of plastic XD
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:03 PM
The tank game was the best
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:03 PM
Yes definitely, but I also liked the neon table hockey. It was fun with 2 players
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:04 PM
That was fun
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:04 PM
Definitely a great showcase of motion controls
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:04 PM
And Find Mii or whatever the one game was called
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:05 PM
That was cool, but I didn't speak english that well back then so I couldn't get very far. I needed to look up "odd out of..." because I only knew odd meant an odd number
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:06 PM
That one confused me too. It wasn’t until several years later I realized it was referring to the Miis head turning (edited)
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:07 PM
And yes we french canadians often got english-only releases because it was cheaper on localisation... Something like Brawl was only in english and when I saw french voice acting in the pal version I was angry XD Now I really don't care because I love english more than french
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:07 PM
fun fact: All of the wii OS music is sequenced
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:07 PM
Really?
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:07 PM
this includes the wii menu music, mii channel, wii shop, all that
9:07 PM
yes (edited)
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:07 PM
Yep, learned that one the hard way with older dolphin versions XD
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:08 PM
Where can I get the insturment samples?
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:08 PM
oh do older dolphin versions not support rseq
9:08 PM
also they're kinda hard to get if you don't know what you're doing
9:08 PM
a few mario kart wii tracks are sequenced too
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:09 PM
I think it was just inaccurate timing of hle audio emulaton
9:09 PM
Lemme try to find the video
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:09 PM
ah
9:09 PM
i know older versions of dolphin gave horrible staticy audio for wii menu
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:10 PM
I need to find the MIDI for the Wii Shop Channel
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:11 PM
9:11 PM
if you want, i can send you the midi/sf2 for it
9:11 PM
i just need to get it
9:11 PM
(the mp3 is unrelated, that's mario kart wii music)
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:11 PM
And I’m not talking like a fanmade midi, the one extracted from the data
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:11 PM
yes i know
9:11 PM
the one
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:12 PM
https://youtu.be/KS7Fl30JZcA?t=3m16s
Dolphin Emulator
Dolphin 5.0 Release Video
9:12 PM
There's the comparison (at 3:16)
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:13 PM
uhm
9:13 PM
did you guys see that
9:13 PM
some bot deleted my post for no reason
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:13 PM
hun, nope, didn't see that
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:13 PM
I have
9:14 PM
@Maddy I’ll take any MIDIs from MKWii that you have
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:14 PM
okay 1 sec
9:14 PM
SEQ_O_EARTH.mid
38.95 KB
9:15 PM
SEQ_O_EARTH.sf2
937.02 KB
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:15 PM
And any insturment samples if Applicable
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:15 PM
zelda twilight princess was notorious for having sequenced music that TRIED to emulate real instruments
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:15 PM
SEQ_O_OPTION_CH.mid
3.17 KB
9:15 PM
SEQ_O_OPTION_CH.sf2
558.44 KB
Laenthor 12/5/2017 9:15 PM
I thought it was alright
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:15 PM
SEQ_O_SELECT_CH.mid
29.04 KB
9:15 PM
SEQ_O_RANKING_CH.mid
13.29 KB
9:15 PM
SEQ_O_RANKING_CH.sf2
828.98 KB
9:16 PM
SEQ_O_SELECT_CH.sf2
1.25 MB
9:16 PM
that's all of em
9:16 PM
i checked mario and sonic at the olympic games earlier today because i thought it sounded sequenced
9:16 PM
apparently not
9:16 PM
all streamed
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:21 PM
Can you rip sequence data from Mega Man 9?
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:21 PM
I don't know
9:21 PM
possibly
9:21 PM
will try
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:22 PM
I know all the music in that game is sequenced
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:32 PM
I can't find it in the game data
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:32 PM
Hmm
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:32 PM
probably a different format from what i'm used to
9:32 PM
almost everything is in bin files
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:33 PM
Interesting
9:33 PM
What about Mega Man 10?
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:33 PM
...i'd imagine it's the same case?
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:34 PM
But the music is in .SEQ I think
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:35 PM
no seqs
Halfbit 12/5/2017 9:36 PM
Wow
9:36 PM
So it’s prerecorded in MM10?
Revenant 12/5/2017 9:37 PM
no seqs before marriage
Maddy 12/5/2017 9:38 PM
no seqs in megaman 8 i mean
9:38 PM
i mean 9
9:38 PM
not 8
9:38 PM
in 9 i can't even find the music files
Azure 12/5/2017 11:02 PM
punk7890 12/5/2017 11:05 PM
hi
Halfbit 12/5/2017 11:06 PM
Hi
Laenthor 12/5/2017 11:34 PM
I'm hi
divingkxt 12/5/2017 11:42 PM
Bonjour.
eientei 12/5/2017 11:46 PM
Bonjourno
divingkxt 12/5/2017 11:48 PM
buongiorno
Maddy 12/5/2017 11:58 PM
bjajajao
punk7890 12/6/2017 12:43 AM
Deleted User 12/6/2017 7:05 AM
meanwhile all of warau salesman's samples are PCM files
7:06 AM
along with what seems to be excecutables
leilei 12/6/2017 7:24 AM
if they're beyond 64kb, then those coms definitely aren't intended as executables
7:24 AM
they haven't been commonplace for a long time
Deleted User 12/6/2017 7:28 AM
they're 4/6 kb at best
PROS1.COM
4.18 KB
FMecha 12/6/2017 10:49 AM
so I wrote the Asphalt 8 article, and now they're adding Hot Wheels collaboration cars that won't be purchasable, only for events
DevEd 12/6/2017 10:49 AM
i highly doubt those are executables
10:49 AM
just because the extension is the same that doesn't mean the format is
FMecha 12/6/2017 10:50 AM
how long I should hold off before I add the unpurchasable cars to the article?
10:51 AM
I waited for the Villain Wheels event to end before publishing the article and another event with the car suddenly showed up
GerbilSoft 12/6/2017 11:02 AM
whoever mentioned PlayStation texture files earlier
11:02 AM
http://formats.kaitai.io/psx_tim/index.html TIM1 looks easy enough to implement
11:02 AM
can't find a spec for TIM2
11:04 AM
http://wiki.xentax.com/index.php/TM2_TIM2 never mind, found it (edited)
TM2 TIM2
Revenant 12/6/2017 11:12 AM
i'm not actually sure what the guideline for event-related content is (if there even is one) (edited)
Deleted User 12/6/2017 12:22 PM
Neat, @GerbilSoft
12:23 PM
As far as time based content, I'd document it as soon as it becomes unavailable
GerbilSoft 12/6/2017 12:23 PM
I'll need some test files later, after I finish implementing the other formats (and unit tests)
Deleted User 12/6/2017 12:23 PM
And make note of the time it was available for.
12:24 PM
I can send TIM and TM2 junk tonight.
GerbilSoft 12/6/2017 12:35 PM
Ok
12:35 PM
Probably won't get to it for a while though
GerbilSoft 12/6/2017 12:47 PM
...f, tim2 format supports storing multiple images
12:47 PM
RP will only show the first
12:47 PM
Should probably indicate that it holds more than one though
EdTheNerd 12/6/2017 12:54 PM
Oh hey this is a thing, hello
Xkeeper 12/6/2017 12:59 PM
hey.
sirocyl 12/6/2017 2:31 PM
This cactus is really fuzzy.
3
2:31 PM
Also hi
Xkeeper 12/6/2017 2:33 PM
hey.
Halfbit 12/6/2017 2:36 PM
Hi
Azure 12/6/2017 3:26 PM
hello
Laenthor 12/6/2017 3:40 PM
Wow I'm stupid, here I've been comparing everything in HP3, then I finally find the Cutscene folder containing a bunch of basic strings that are interpreted in unreal XD I now know exactly what is used when levels are loaded and when cutscenes play out. 80% of my job is already done.
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:29 PM
i guess this is a general question. i have a ton of new data for a gba game. it all exist in the games code and is accessable in game, but was not known to be until i made a "hack" for it.
Xkeeper 12/6/2017 5:30 PM
ok
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:31 PM
Where could/should I submit that?
Xkeeper 12/6/2017 5:33 PM
the wiki, probably. what game?
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:33 PM
Megaman battle network 6. I didnt know you could publically edit the wiki?
Smoke 12/6/2017 5:35 PM
You gotta make an account first to edit the wiki
Xkeeper 12/6/2017 5:36 PM
yeah, just sign up
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:38 PM
Ah. Makes sense. Is there a formatting guide?
Xkeeper 12/6/2017 5:38 PM
https://tcrf.net/Help:Contents
Help:Contents
5:38 PM
check through this
Deleted User 12/6/2017 5:38 PM
^
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:39 PM
Appreciated
Deleted User 12/6/2017 5:39 PM
also, look at existing articles that have the sort of formatting you want
Xkeeper 12/6/2017 5:39 PM
Deleted User 12/6/2017 5:39 PM
then copy paste the wiki source and edit as needed.
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:39 PM
Yeah. I will need to make tables
Deleted User 12/6/2017 5:39 PM
also use the Preview button before saving, so you can check how things are going.
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:40 PM
Once i get home from work ill add it in
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/6/2017 5:41 PM
>it all exist in the games code and is accessable in game, but was not known to be until i made a "hack" for it.
5:41 PM
whats this about though
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:41 PM
Only content not avail through regular gamr play yes
5:42 PM
The game has a peripheral where you can slot in "chips" for attacks
5:42 PM
There were a number of them unreleased physically but that exist in code
5:43 PM
If you make the chip yourself you can slot it in and get that attack
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/6/2017 5:43 PM
are they like barcode cards? (edited)
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:43 PM
They are pins that when gounded correspond to a binary value
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/6/2017 5:43 PM
huh
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:44 PM
There is also others too. Qn eeprom chip that you had to level uo in a toy to use in th3 game
5:45 PM
But it turns out each level of those eepeom toys can be activated too with a certain value
5:45 PM
Likely left over fromt testing
Deleted User 12/6/2017 5:45 PM
mega man amiibo
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:46 PM
kinda actually
Xkeeper 12/6/2017 5:48 PM
@GoodTofuFriday reminds me of e-reader cards.
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:51 PM
Similar concept. It did support ereader too
5:51 PM
But for different things
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/6/2017 5:53 PM
thats what i call ambitious
5:53 PM
of course they cut all that shit in the localized versions
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 5:57 PM
Its a shame for real
Deleted User 12/6/2017 6:21 PM
@GoodTofuFriday mmbn 6?
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 6:22 PM
Indeed
Deleted User 12/6/2017 6:22 PM
Hmm......gba?
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 6:22 PM
Yessir
Deleted User 12/6/2017 6:22 PM
Nice. I should pull my copy out now
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 6:23 PM
But only jp version
6:23 PM
And you need the peripheral called beast gate
Deleted User 12/6/2017 6:23 PM
Hmm..
6:24 PM
Cutscenes for MMBN 6. How did you grab em? @GoodTofuFriday
GoodTofuFriday 12/6/2017 6:25 PM
That wasnt me. But can direct you to two guys who can/could
6:26 PM
I deal woth hardware mostly. Just happened that these hacks i found relied on a hardware approach
EdTheNerd 12/6/2017 7:08 PM
7:09 PM
My hobbie: bringing horibly broken early builds of games to swap meets and subjecting unsuspecting people to them
7:09 PM
Halfbit 12/6/2017 7:09 PM
Noooo
7:09 PM
Not the prototypes!
7:10 PM
They’ll potentially be lost forever
EdTheNerd 12/6/2017 7:10 PM
Oh I keep tabs on them
7:10 PM
The challenge: finish one lap
7:11 PM
We lovingly call this game The Italian String
7:12 PM
It's a horibly broken version of Superbikes 2000
7:13 PM
Any language other than English being selected results in every text string being shown at "(chosen language) STRING"
7:13 PM
Italian is the first not-english option so Italian string it is
ƒluƒƒу 12/6/2017 7:13 PM
in fairness, `The Italian String` might make for a pretty good name for something
EdTheNerd 12/6/2017 7:13 PM
It's absolutely hilarious to play and the best 25 bucks I ever spent
Laenthor 12/6/2017 7:13 PM
Have any of you seen a sound test this well doccumented?
ƒluƒƒу 12/6/2017 7:13 PM
not sure what but hey
old acc! inactive 12/6/2017 7:13 PM
dump the rom so somebody can document the prototype on TCRF
EdTheNerd 12/6/2017 7:13 PM
It does right?
7:14 PM
But yeah, the cost was peanuts for a legit proto that is very different so I'll probably toss it online when I'm not lazey
7:16 PM
So far the tracks I tried have colision data to complete a lap, but large chunks are just invisible and the last section of track that was textured or the rider itself just becomes a garbled mess where the track should be
7:16 PM
Best strategy is just try like hell to keep up with the AI
7:16 PM
Physics are pretty hilarious too
GerbilSoft 12/6/2017 7:20 PM
@EdTheNerd "My hobbie: bringing horibly broken early builds of games to swap meets and subjecting unsuspecting people to them"
7:20 PM
Phil Moore did that decades ago
7:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T_PFirQNo
Johnny Boy Strikes Back
Nick Arcade FAIL 2 - Melissa Joan Hart
7:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1UyEcx8AjQ better link maybe
The Sonic Stadium
Sonic 2 Beta: Nick Arcade Video Challenge (Melissa Joan Hart and Jason Zimbler, 1992)
EdTheNerd 12/6/2017 7:26 PM
Ahahahaha
leilei 12/6/2017 7:27 PM
sega's stealth beta testing (edited)
7:27 PM
doing it way before bethesda made it cool
EdTheNerd 12/6/2017 7:30 PM
So releasing it as a finished product then?
GerbilSoft 12/6/2017 7:31 PM
Maddy 12/6/2017 7:49 PM
Anyone know how to decompile/decompress a ds download play title that has been made an .nds file?
7:49 PM
i tried tinke, and nothing
7:50 PM
and vgmtrans doesn't pick up sequences despite there clearly being some
Azure 12/6/2017 8:06 PM
divingkxt 12/6/2017 8:33 PM
As someone who knows a fair bit about Bethesda...
8:33 PM
even in their early days, their games were buggy.
8:34 PM
Quick show of hands: How many people remember playing through Arena all the way through without the game crashing
8:34 PM
on an actual PC from the 90's?
sirocyl 12/6/2017 8:35 PM
I think I remember throwing the game on the shelf because my Deskpro kept getting BSOD on the installer.
divingkxt 12/6/2017 8:36 PM
Bethesda somehow managed to most, if not all, of their archives from the 90's.
sirocyl 12/6/2017 8:36 PM
You accidentally a word
divingkxt 12/6/2017 8:36 PM
It's known that the source code for Daggerfall was lost, and is likely the case with Arena.
8:36 PM
Bethesda somehow managed to lose track of most, if not all, of their archives from the 90's.
sirocyl 12/6/2017 8:36 PM
damn
8:37 PM
this makes me honestly angry that they own id software now
divingkxt 12/6/2017 8:37 PM
They can't find it anywhere. The best case scenario is that some rogue sectors on the original printings have source code still.
8:37 PM
i.e. Starglider on the Atari ST.
sirocyl 12/6/2017 8:37 PM
the real best case scenario is that someone just rewrite a compatible engine without the bugs
8:37 PM
I know, I know, "it's not the same"
8:38 PM
but I'm sure an openRCT-like effort wouldn't be too far out of reach
divingkxt 12/6/2017 8:39 PM
Both Arena and Daggerfall have rewrites and reverse engineering projects.
8:40 PM
Daggerfall is the one I know way more about and their rewrite/partial reverse engineer is/was actually very helpful in expanding the article for that.
sirocyl 12/6/2017 8:40 PM
but, yes, this is TCRF - we really are interested in what was running through their minds when they wrote that.
divingkxt 12/6/2017 8:41 PM
http://xlengine.com/delays-and-progress/
8:42 PM
Regarding Bethesda though, they definitely are far from the only ones with lost content, which may be partially attributed to bad management.
8:42 PM
It's possible someone out there has something regarding it, but Bethesda was practically on lock-down then.
ƒluƒƒу 12/6/2017 8:43 PM
clearly the source code clipped through the floor and fell into the abyss
divingkxt 12/6/2017 8:44 PM
There are a surprising amount of projects cancelled under Bethesda.
8:44 PM
The 10th Planet was one of these, with issues caused by a lack of personnel and budget to have a more permanent personnel.
8:44 PM
That's someone Julian LeFay confirmed himself in an interview.
8:45 PM
Only a rolling demo of that was released on a CD.
8:45 PM
https://vimeo.com/14704819
8:45 PM
And this reel of cinematics made for the game.
8:47 PM
The demo in question is also rare to find as it was only issued on CDs with very limited printing.
Smoke 12/6/2017 10:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhb9VUzaJc
Smoke
Skate 2 - 1119.flv
10:10 PM
Found something interesting
leilei 12/6/2017 10:12 PM
nevermind arena, i've loathed terminator rampage around release
10:12 PM
one of the worst fpses ive had the misfortune of playing
10:12 PM
less playable than even the bad shareware 94 wolf clones that came slightly later (edited)
10:13 PM
bethesda was capstone tier
10:14 PM
it wasn't until morrowind...on the xbox when bethesda started having a positive reputation (edited)
10:20 PM
have you ever tried to play battlespire!?
10:20 PM
there's a reason why bethesda didn't freeware that one
10:20 PM
or bundle it in their collections
10:20 PM
or acknowledge its existence
10:20 PM
it's bethesda's own undermountain
divingkxt 12/6/2017 10:28 PM
Which is especially funny considering what LeFay had to say about it.
10:28 PM
Then again, while he is a talented person, he constantly gets attached to underwhelming-at-best games.
10:28 PM
And projects in general.
10:29 PM
Much of the lore of the Elder Scrolls series came about from fans from the Usenet days.
Revenant 12/6/2017 10:29 PM
when is bethesda going to rerelease wayne gretzky hockey 1988
divingkxt 12/6/2017 10:29 PM
https://tcrf.net/Wayne_Gretzky_Hockey_(Amiga)
Wayne Gretzky Hockey (Amiga)
leilei 12/6/2017 10:30 PM
or reboot their wheres waldo game and make it an augmented reality iphone app
divingkxt 12/6/2017 10:37 PM
Smoke: Was someone using an HTC Vive or something?
10:37 PM
(I kid somewhat, the game obviously predates that)
Smoke 12/6/2017 10:39 PM
The video predates most of the other files by three days (edited)
10:42 PM
Never mind, the video predates the folders by three days not the files
leilei 12/6/2017 10:47 PM
speaking of bethesda games, is bethesda's burnout hotrod championship drag racing really part of the burnout series (edited)
10:48 PM
when the 00 burnout games came out my first thoughts were 'bethesda isnt continuing this crap too are they'
Zeether 12/6/2017 10:53 PM
Terminator Future Shock is good
divingkxt 12/6/2017 10:56 PM
moRt1nErDej7lig
11:01 PM
Skynet > Future Shock though
leilei 12/6/2017 11:01 PM
MISSION FAILED, SOLDIER!
Timo 12/7/2017 8:52 AM
Hello
Deleted User 12/7/2017 8:56 AM
Hmmm...is there a thing such as Happy Pearl Harbor Day?
Timo 12/7/2017 8:56 AM
no
Laenthor 12/7/2017 6:24 PM
Just went to visit a university today... The amount of work and dedication you need to put is scary when you're in college XD
6:26 PM
Especially on the computer science/engineering side... the projects look amazing, but I really don't feel up to it right now
divingkxt 12/7/2017 8:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJXIDEapaLc
GameHut
Mickey "Doom" Parody Prototype
8:21 PM
This is real.
emma ミ☆ 12/7/2017 8:28 PM
^
Laenthor 12/7/2017 8:43 PM
Jon Burton is an amazing man XD
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/7/2017 10:49 PM
10:49 PM
What's the Cacti Club?
GerbilSoft 12/7/2017 10:50 PM
it's a secret to everybody
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/7/2017 10:51 PM
I see :/
Biscuiteer 12/7/2017 11:02 PM
uhh... common courtesy dictates that i, the new guy, say hello and introduce myself
11:02 PM
so hi
11:02 PM
glad that's over with
Dprotp 12/7/2017 11:02 PM
Biscuiteer 12/7/2017 11:02 PM
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/7/2017 11:04 PM
@Biscuiteer
11:04 PM
offers biscuits and gravy
Biscuiteer 12/7/2017 11:04 PM
erm...
11:04 PM
drools
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/7/2017 11:06 PM
'w'
Laenthor 12/7/2017 11:16 PM
finally found the 2nd temporary cutscene that works! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDdGOxypZus
QB
Game Secrets: Old HP3 "BuckExecuted" CutScene
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:38 AM
sneep
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:38 AM
o/
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:38 AM
\o
inductor 12/8/2017 12:39 AM
baka
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:39 AM
貴様こそ
inductor 12/8/2017 12:39 AM
-_-
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:40 AM
uwu
inductor 12/8/2017 12:40 AM
=w=
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:41 AM
There's an E->J & J->E game translator meetup every Thursday in Nakameguro, wanna go next week?
inductor 12/8/2017 12:41 AM
Sure
12:41 AM
Any link?
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:41 AM
It starts at 8:30
12:41 AM
Yeah, one sec
inductor 12/8/2017 12:41 AM
PM me if needed
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:41 AM
k
12:42 AM
I was supposed to go yesterday, but I really didn't feel like leaving the house, and going alone when you don't know anyone is a little :S
inductor 12/8/2017 12:42 AM
thanks
12:42 AM
probs we can go there together
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:42 AM
thank -you- for being my company!
12:43 AM
Indeed, that would be better
inductor 12/8/2017 12:43 AM
ma pleasure
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:43 AM
woot
inductor 12/8/2017 12:43 AM
w007 (edited)
12:43 AM
1337 for w is what (edited)
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:43 AM
I don't understand
12:43 AM
4649?
inductor 12/8/2017 12:44 AM
lol
12:44 AM
leet language
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:44 AM
Yeah, but what is "1447 for w is what"
12:44 AM
why is 1 w
inductor 12/8/2017 12:44 AM
what is w for 1337 (edited)
12:44 AM
or in
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:44 AM
you mean 1337 right?
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:44 AM
質問わからねー
inductor 12/8/2017 12:44 AM
...
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:45 AM
What do you mean??
inductor 12/8/2017 12:45 AM
;_;
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:45 AM
i think
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:45 AM
pls respond
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:45 AM
it's "What is the equivalent of 'w' in 1337-speak?"
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:45 AM
ohhhh
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:46 AM
i too had a stroke while trying to comprehend it
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:46 AM
uhhh.... no idea D: there isn't an equivalent for all letters, is there?
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:46 AM
not that i'm aware of
inductor 12/8/2017 12:46 AM
I cant think of any
12:46 AM
so just w007?
12:47 AM
w00t
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:47 AM
probably yeah
inductor 12/8/2017 12:47 AM
I see w00t more often
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:47 AM
^
12:47 AM
Do people still say w00t?
inductor 12/8/2017 12:47 AM
dunno
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:47 AM
I haven't seen that in a long time
12:47 AM
oh, damnit
12:47 AM
I hate Discord smilies
inductor 12/8/2017 12:48 AM
only when peeps being silly
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:48 AM
I was trying to write :' )
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:48 AM
i think discord has an option for that?
12:48 AM
looks
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:48 AM
You can turn them off for yourself but not others, no?
12:48 AM
So if I type :' ) and see it in ASCII form, others will see it as :'), and it won't convey the meaning I want, no?
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:49 AM
iirc yeah
12:49 AM
inductor 12/8/2017 12:49 AM
i was pasting this
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:49 AM
So that doesn't help m too much, but thank you anyway ^^
inductor 12/8/2017 12:49 AM
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:50 AM
Hm
12:50 AM
That option isn' entirely clear, then
12:50 AM
I don't know what the effect will be
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:50 AM
:')
inductor 12/8/2017 12:50 AM
>Automatically convert.... < thing
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:50 AM
I'll try it and you can tell me
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:50 AM
works for me
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:50 AM
:')
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:50 AM
got text
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:50 AM
Yay!
12:50 AM
Okay, dope
12:50 AM
Thanks!
Incineroar 12/8/2017 12:51 AM
tbh i'm not a fan of emoji either so
inductor 12/8/2017 12:51 AM
You cant completely remove all emojis on app because some people just use it not by text converting
12:51 AM
12:51 AM
like this
12:52 AM
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:52 AM
nod nod
inductor 12/8/2017 12:52 AM
anyways do you know how the nomikai works?
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:53 AM
A famous translation company called 8-4 runs it
inductor 12/8/2017 12:53 AM
like if you need to pay a determined amount of money or you just need to pay for whateer you ordered
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:53 AM
I've met their employees, but I don't know if they're there every week
12:53 AM
Oh, I have no idea
inductor 12/8/2017 12:53 AM
cause theres literally no infroatmion about that on the facebook page
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:53 AM
I'm thinking maybe I'll message my old acquaintance at the company this week to reconnect and ask him about attending, so maybe I'll get more details
12:53 AM
I'll let you know what I learn
12:53 AM
yeah, all the posts are old
12:54 AM
RIP
12:54 AM
by the way, what do you do when you're too lazy to cook/don't have groceries but want to order food without spending a ton of money?
inductor 12/8/2017 12:55 AM
Thanks
12:55 AM
and about the question, I think it depends where you live around. There are some restaurants you can order and just take out by tourself
12:56 AM
Unless you cant be so bothered that you couldnt even go out, you can do that
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:56 AM
I'm kind of the latter right now :'D
inductor 12/8/2017 12:56 AM
If you are, youd prolly need to pay kinda shit tons of money for some amount
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:56 AM
boo hoo :D
inductor 12/8/2017 12:57 AM
heh
12:57 AM
But it depends
12:57 AM
Some restaurants might have cheap deliverly options
12:57 AM
though it doesnt sound like a thing here in Tokyo.
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:57 AM
Tokyo should have everything, it's the biggest city in the wooooooorld (almost)
inductor 12/8/2017 12:58 AM
^ so that they're not that cheap ; ) (edited)
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:58 AM
But it doesn't have cheese curds, so I can't get or make poutine~
inductor 12/8/2017 12:58 AM
fuk i now hate the emoji conversion too
12:58 AM
imma change this
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:58 AM
I guess nowhere can be perfect!
12:58 AM
Haha, gg
12:58 AM
IRC ftw
inductor 12/8/2017 12:58 AM
well IRC is good too but its just too old :P
12:59 AM
doesnt work super well on smartphones etc, due to the connectivity
GlitterBerri 12/8/2017 12:59 AM
Mm hmm
1:00 AM
I like the KISS rule, though
1:00 AM
Keep it simple, stupid
1:01 AM
IRC is very nice and functional, no extra bells and whistles
inductor 12/8/2017 1:01 AM
https://www.techopedia.com/2/28675/internet/remember-irc-its-still-around-and-its-still-worth-using
Remember IRC? It's Still Around - And It's Still Worth Using
IRC is a wonderful way to get free support, especially for open-source software, but it's
Maddy 12/8/2017 1:02 AM
I found something in rhythm heaven fever for the wii
1:02 AM
specifically the rhythm test segment
1:03 AM
in the first entry of the series, rhythm tengoku, the test had 3 segments. tapping A to a beep, counting down from 7, and tapping A to a drumbeat.
1:03 AM
in fever, it only has the first two.
1:03 AM
however, in fever's files, i found a remade version of the same drum track from tengoku, new samples and all.
1:04 AM
here's it converted to mp3
1:04 AM
1:04 AM
1:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDFPWewG0gk
First Hour
Rhythm Heaven Fever - Rhythm Test (game intro)
1:06 AM
https://youtu.be/3VkkIjELJkw?t=30s
Spinda
Some Test - Rhythm Tengoku / Rhythm Heaven Silver: Set 1
1:06 AM
drum part starts at 2:30 in the tengoku video
Halfbit 12/8/2017 10:32 AM
Welp. Guess I can’t advertise my server
Maddy 12/8/2017 10:37 AM
yeah because dyno deletes it
10:37 AM
the link not the server
Meow 12/8/2017 10:43 AM
So this is were @Borman hides >.> I got you now.
Borman 12/8/2017 11:17 AM
Only one of many
Deleted User 12/8/2017 11:39 AM
11:39 AM
well
11:39 AM
this is gonna be a pain
11:39 AM
might as well snoop inside the files and see what happens
11:39 AM
11:39 AM
11:45 AM
theres lotsa bik files
Deleted User 12/8/2017 12:02 PM
actually i looked at the actual game, its nearly the same as PS2
12:03 PM
so THAT was a waste
Maddy 12/8/2017 3:01 PM
anyone know how to extract the music files from spongebob cftkk for wii
3:02 PM
there are music files in there that are 1. not in other versions of the game 2. not on the ripped soundtracks other people have posted as those are from the ps2 version
3:03 PM
best i can do is record within dolphin but there's lag and buffers and slowdown if i do that
3:03 PM
so i'd rather have all the music files
3:03 PM
the ps2 version is hard enough but i don't know what the hell kind of encryption the wii version uses
3:03 PM
i gave up months ago
Laenthor 12/8/2017 3:10 PM
Usually the wii has .brstrm for audio streams or plain sequenced music (just like a midi). I've not touched a lot of wii/gamecube audio, but if you can take a look at the files, what are their extension (if there is one)
alan 12/8/2017 4:32 PM
sometimes, companies use their own music format btw
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/8/2017 7:25 PM
hi
Smoke 12/8/2017 7:27 PM
hello
Halfbit 12/8/2017 7:28 PM
hiya
7:29 PM
Where's The Answer?
ImJustATester 12/8/2017 7:31 PM
ahoy
Foas 12/8/2017 7:33 PM
this is gonna be good
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/8/2017 7:33 PM
yeah
GerbilSoft 12/8/2017 7:36 PM
I'll take Potent Potables for $200
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/8/2017 7:44 PM
Maddy 12/8/2017 8:35 PM
@Laenthor#0419 it's not brstm
8:35 PM
okay why does discord do that
8:35 PM
@Laenthor#0419 it's not
8:35 PM
MMMMMMM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/8/2017 8:37 PM
@Laenthor
8:37 PM
there we go
Laenthor 12/8/2017 9:31 PM
Uhh... I was working, why am i tagged?
Smoke 12/8/2017 9:35 PM
"ChocolateJake: it's not brstm"
Laenthor 12/8/2017 9:40 PM
Yeah I was giving a few common examples.
Maddy 12/8/2017 10:55 PM
i'll look at the extensions once i get my hands on the files again
GerbilSoft 12/9/2017 3:17 PM
whee
3:18 PM
i have Valve VTF textures mostly working now
3:18 PM
i'll take another look at the VTF3 textures later
3:18 PM
one slightly annoying thing is VTF stores mipmaps in smallest to largest, which means i have to manually calculate mipmap sizes and skip them
3:18 PM
largest to smallest is easier to work with :V
Meow 12/9/2017 4:10 PM
they the portal beta ones that leaked by chance?
GerbilSoft 12/9/2017 5:17 PM
no
5:17 PM
i converted some PNG files to VTF using VTFEdit
5:17 PM
i'm looking at the VTF3 files @Smoke posted earlier this week
5:17 PM
fire_embers1.ps3.vtf looks like it might be DXT1
5:18 PM
lemme put a DDS DXT1 header on it
5:24 PM
BAM
5:24 PM
got it to decode the aperture science logo
5:24 PM
DXT5
5:24 PM
now to figure out what the header means (edited)
5:25 PM
`0000 | 56 54 46 33 00 00 03 33 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 48 0010 | 00 00 20 00 02 00 02 00 00 01 00 01 00 60 01 01 0020 | 3E 41 3F 97 3E 5A F7 73 3E 65 7F E3 3F 80 00 00 0030 | 00 00 00 0F 77 7E 81 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00` (edited)
5:25 PM
first 4 bytes is "VTF3"
5:26 PM
0x14 appears to be 512x512
5:28 PM
0x0008 looks like it might be mipmap count
5:29 PM
..maybe not, i see it in a file that i'm pretty sure doesn't have mipmaps
Meow 12/9/2017 5:31 PM
ohh wasn't here then had no idea tcrf had a discord. I normally stick to mine/ag's lol
divingkxt 12/9/2017 6:00 PM
It's officially unofficial.
old acc! inactive 12/9/2017 6:03 PM
It's IRC for Dummies™
Meow 12/9/2017 6:04 PM
I can't stand IRC too simple, prefer GUI's myself.
6:04 PM
Just finished cloning 2 PS3 dev kits too
GerbilSoft 12/9/2017 6:07 PM
bam, all images decoded
6:07 PM
there doesn't seem to be a 'format' field - instead, there's a flag indicating alpha (DXT5) or no alpha (DXT1)
Meow 12/9/2017 6:08 PM
Nice
6:09 PM
I'm shocked nobody's looked into my unreleased Ghost Rider xbox build or the UntilDawn PS3 build. Also shocked nobody's looked into the pico source as it could lead to homebrew.
Nex 12/9/2017 6:11 PM
I would but I can play neither heh
Meow 12/9/2017 6:11 PM
I know you would
6:11 PM
I should see if Ghost Rider runs on modded xbox's
6:12 PM
I have two here I could always send one over
6:12 PM
if it worked
Nex 12/9/2017 6:12 PM
huh
Meow 12/9/2017 6:12 PM
I have 5 OG xbox's by the door, 2 are modded if GR worked I could send one over to you to help with research
Nex 12/9/2017 6:12 PM
that would be really nice of you
Meow 12/9/2017 6:13 PM
I'll give it a try sometime for you none have been plugged in for years but I'm sure they're working.
6:13 PM
I mean OGgave luigiblood a 64DD worth $500 a modded xbox if it works wouldn't be an issue haha
Nex 12/9/2017 6:14 PM
til everyone has multiple xbox's and I got my first 360 like a month ago lmao
Meow 12/9/2017 6:14 PM
I only have 1 retail 360 and like 4 broken ones, an xna expo kit and a prototype pre-release 360 but that's it.
6:15 PM
I might be trading my 360 kits though as I've done so much PS3 stuff lately
6:15 PM
Right now I've got 3 PS3 dev kits next to me
6:15 PM
and another two on the other side of the room
Nex 12/9/2017 6:16 PM
4 broken ones o.o (edited)
Meow 12/9/2017 6:18 PM
yeah idk they keep crawling out of weird places like boxes of clothes
GerbilSoft 12/9/2017 6:32 PM
can't figure out mipmap count and adjustments, so it's using a heuristic right now
Nex 12/9/2017 6:34 PM
what are you trying to figure out?
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:33 PM
hi
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:36 PM
Hello.
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:37 PM
what's new?
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:38 PM
Besides this Discord?
7:39 PM
I'm soon going to add the piece of x86 assembly inside of a game's disk.
7:39 PM
Very intermediate-level x86 assembly.
7:39 PM
From the 80's.
7:39 PM
Which is useful in so many ways.
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:39 PM
neat
7:40 PM
I haven't been finding anything lately. Haven't been into hacking as of late
leilei 12/9/2017 7:40 PM
ditto
7:40 PM
i'm really procratinating on quake3revolution digging
7:40 PM
there's more stuff i've yet to document
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:41 PM
I'll probably get back into finding debug menus and stuff next year sometime
leilei 12/9/2017 7:41 PM
it's an interesting port as it included some scrapped q3a materials
7:41 PM
it wasn't built in the traditional id pak grabbing tool way
Meow 12/9/2017 7:41 PM
just remember not to say k kev on assemblergames @emma ミ☆ can confirm
leilei 12/9/2017 7:41 PM
and bullfrog had more ambition in the port that was scaled down
Meow 12/9/2017 7:42 PM
If you go back there anyway
leilei 12/9/2017 7:42 PM
and there's tons of leftover voices
emma ミ☆ 12/9/2017 7:42 PM
yes
7:42 PM
absolutely confirmed
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:42 PM
Bullfrog's mid-90's games are shockingly easy to hack, for the most part.
leilei 12/9/2017 7:42 PM
yeah well, this is from their 99-01 period
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:42 PM
Ah, their decline.
leilei 12/9/2017 7:42 PM
their sounds are mpeg2's in SDTs
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:43 PM
Still, not too hard.
leilei 12/9/2017 7:43 PM
as dungeon keeper 2 was
emma ミ☆ 12/9/2017 7:43 PM
2
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:43 PM
I'd like to try out PS3 memory editing but I don't know what tools I need. I have CFW now. I am hoping there is someting like PS2dis but probably not.
leilei 12/9/2017 7:43 PM
though all the pak data is put in a proprietary .LNK format
7:43 PM
and they use a new model format of their own to reduce memory footprint and take advantage of the EmotionEngine(tm)
emma ミ☆ 12/9/2017 7:44 PM
and here's what i said
Halfbit 12/9/2017 7:44 PM
Does anyone know byuu?
leilei 12/9/2017 7:44 PM
and there's models of weapons not in the game
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:44 PM
@leilei is this a ps2 game?
leilei 12/9/2017 7:44 PM
yes
7:45 PM
i have no problem getting at the sounds
7:45 PM
it's the models that aren't readable by anything
7:45 PM
it's some custom bullfrog skeleton format
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:45 PM
any debug menus? I could look sometime for some
leilei 12/9/2017 7:46 PM
there are debug menu scripts in there at least
7:46 PM
somewhere
7:46 PM
and there's also older menu files
7:46 PM
which i was able to access by hacking an elf
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:46 PM
if you send me the elf file I could have a quick look sometime
leilei 12/9/2017 7:47 PM
should mention it normally hangs pcsx2 so it needs a hacking to skip the mpegs anyway
7:47 PM
typically the 'debug' mode in a quake game is the console interface
7:48 PM
i never found a way to pull this down
7:48 PM
and usually setting developer 1 will print the debug readouts
7:49 PM
(along with a bunch of show variables)
7:49 PM
i'm not even sure if pcsx2 emulates the keyboard
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:49 PM
probably a flag for debug modes enabled. Most of the time that's how it is. Enable the flag in ram and it will show it onscreen
7:50 PM
pcsx2 does have a keyboard plugin but it only works if the game has a USB keyboard driver
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:50 PM
Halfbit: What about byuu?
Luminar 12/9/2017 7:50 PM
Pcsx2 does emulate the keyboard I think, you just need ti configure the usb plugin
7:51 PM
Oh yes
leilei 12/9/2017 7:51 PM
i have this old screenshot when i got the old menu working
7:52 PM
there was a separate "devhud" script file and i hexed my way there :S
7:53 PM
differs from the usual
Laenthor 12/9/2017 7:54 PM
The fuck is wrong with the website (or is it me?)
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:54 PM
I've had this happen to me too.
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:54 PM
I don't see it
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:54 PM
It's resource straining.
Laenthor 12/9/2017 7:55 PM
I know what's happeneing, I just don't know why. It's happening now
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:56 PM
It's usually temporary, but it's possible it may be a browser issue,
leilei 12/9/2017 7:57 PM
on some sites the lack of css seems permanent for me
divingkxt 12/9/2017 7:57 PM
or a race condition is happening.
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:57 PM
Heh. I remember looking in this game https://tcrf.net/Hana_to_Otome_ni_Shukufuku_wo_(PlayStation_2) and found a bunch of unused hentai CGs. I wonder how often that happens in these types of games.
Hana to Otome ni Shukufuku wo (PlayStation 2)
leilei 12/9/2017 7:58 PM
could be worse. you could have no css and have oversized little icons covering the whole browser width
punk7890 12/9/2017 7:58 PM
try clearing cashe maybe?
leilei 12/9/2017 8:00 PM
oh yeah the scoreboard was different in this devhud too
punk7890 12/9/2017 8:00 PM
too bad I've looked through all of Gust's PS2 games now. They always have debug menus.
leilei 12/9/2017 8:01 PM
was way off center
punk7890 12/9/2017 8:02 PM
https://tcrf.net/Taishou_Mononoke_Ibunroku Gust's debug menus were really large.
Taishou Mononoke Ibunroku
leilei 12/9/2017 8:02 PM
also trying to hack in hunter as the player got me some error output
Laenthor 12/9/2017 8:32 PM
Christ I think my hard drive's staring to give up actually. I need to buy an ssd asap!
Dprotp 12/9/2017 8:32 PM
is this going to be your first ssd?
Laenthor 12/9/2017 8:33 PM
Chrome is just unstable in general for me. Even youtube has trouble loading
8:33 PM
Yeah, need one for my laptop though
Dprotp 12/9/2017 8:33 PM
oh man
8:33 PM
prepare to live in magic (edited)
Laenthor 12/9/2017 8:33 PM
Yes I know the wonders of ssds
8:34 PM
Thing is that I need an internal one specifically made for my laptop brand (asus rog)
8:34 PM
And I don't know how to check that
8:34 PM
If it can hold on for 1 more week it'll be okay
Dprotp 12/9/2017 8:43 PM
standard 2.5" wont' do it, huh
8:43 PM
some weird form factor
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/9/2017 8:54 PM
tfw u pay premium for ROG shit and it uses proprietary SSD shit (?)
leilei 12/9/2017 8:56 PM
could be worse. you could be shopping for ide laptop hard drives
8:56 PM
those are very hard to come by, the large ones anyway
Dprotp 12/9/2017 8:57 PM
this sounds like
leilei 12/9/2017 8:57 PM
's laptop only has ide :(
Dprotp 12/9/2017 8:57 PM
something you know from experience
8:57 PM
o
8:57 PM
punk7890 12/9/2017 8:57 PM
aren't SSDs super expensive? I imagine you pay for both speed and per GB with those
Dprotp 12/9/2017 8:58 PM
120ish - 200ish GB ones can be pricey but are reasonable
8:58 PM
after that they shoot up high
punk7890 12/9/2017 8:58 PM
hm yeah. I got my 4TB external for $180
Revenant 12/9/2017 8:59 PM
https://twitter.com/RCRPodcast/status/938547391233495041
The RCR Podcast (@RCRPodcast)
Ever read the 1997 book "Halcyon Days: Interviews with Classic Computer and Video Game Programmers" by James Hague, with an intro by @romero? The whole this is online for free! https://t.co/45H1ds9U25
Incineroar 12/9/2017 9:03 PM
@Xkeeper i saw your tweet on patreons dropping like flies. i kinda see why with patreon and their bullshit, but i also feel sorry for the people that actually get this money because now suddenly one good source of money is drying up at an alarming rate
punk7890 12/9/2017 9:04 PM
what happened to patreon?
Xkeeper 12/9/2017 9:04 PM
patreon changed the way they process
punk7890 12/9/2017 9:04 PM
ah hmm
Xkeeper 12/9/2017 9:04 PM
it used to be that you'd pledge $1, you'd be charged $1, and a creator would get $1 - (tx fee + patreon cut)
9:05 PM
usually like 80% or so-ish, it varied
9:05 PM
but importantly, you could pledge to 10 people, for $1 each, and you'd be charged $10 total
9:05 PM
they changed it so now the process is
9:05 PM
you pledge $1
9:05 PM
you're charged $1 + (tx fee + patreon's cut) ... but for EVERY PLEDGE
9:06 PM
and creators get $1 - 5% (patreon's cut too)
9:06 PM
so if you pledge 1 person fo $10, you pay about $10.50 or so
9:06 PM
if you pledge to 10 people at $1, you're charged $13+
9:07 PM
this ALSO affects patreon creators who re-pledge their income. before that money was only subject to patreon's initial cut, since there's no transaction fees; it's patreon's money, they're just moving it
9:07 PM
but now they're taking a cut of that and basically double-dipping every time a creator is a patron of someone else
9:07 PM
it's really bad
punk7890 12/9/2017 9:07 PM
yikes
Xkeeper 12/9/2017 9:08 PM
and of course it affects small time people the most
punk7890 12/9/2017 9:08 PM
yeah
Xkeeper 12/9/2017 9:08 PM
who can't afford huge pledges, or who have patreons who can't
9:08 PM
so it's just been a mass exodus
9:09 PM
i don't blame the people leaving, i'm just glad they stuck around for a while
9:09 PM
you can probably notice that the cacti club membership has been shrinking ➡
punk7890 12/9/2017 9:12 PM
ah I was wondering what that group was
Incineroar 12/9/2017 10:11 PM
tbh if i had money i'd totally donate to everything i like
10:11 PM
but when i have 20 moneys
10:11 PM
and i have to put 21 moneys on bills
10:11 PM
it's kinda hard
eientei 12/10/2017 1:18 AM
>could be worse. you could be shopping for ide laptop hard drives @leilei I only managed to get my ~50GB IDE HD thanks to work having a few leftover from old PCs
1:18 AM
Now used in my PS2
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 1:29 AM
No debug whatsoever on rc2 beta sadly
leilei 12/10/2017 1:30 AM
oh i was thinking laptop IDE drives
1:30 AM
desktop ide's a world easier
1:32 AM
trying to find a good 120gb laptop ide is hard
1:33 AM
also i've an old 160gb desktop ide that's loud as a shuttlelaunch
punk7890 12/10/2017 1:34 AM
@╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ yeah looks that way.
1:34 AM
odd
1:34 AM
unless its a different value to enable it but I don't think so.
1:35 AM
the spot to enable it was at 201A8740
1:36 AM
for the first level
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 1:45 AM
show me
punk7890 12/10/2017 1:54 AM
I said it was there. It isn't anymore.
1:55 AM
a value of FFFFFFFF would have enabled it, it just softlocks the game now.
1:55 AM
might be a way to enable the debug options that were once in the menu though
Neko May 12/10/2017 4:03 AM
I've got a vintage 1GB SCSI SSD. It's powered by a 386EX. I should find it and take pictures.
4:04 AM
Anyway, just checking before sleep.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/10/2017 7:57 AM
is size="XYZ" really a valid tag for the youtube embed?
7:57 AM
i cant get it to work
7:58 AM
7:58 AM
even "half" doesnt seem to work
Deleted User 12/10/2017 11:40 AM
just use height/width tags
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/10/2017 11:50 AM
yeah i went with that in the end
Deleted User 12/10/2017 11:52 AM
cool
aivv73 12/10/2017 1:46 PM
there is a version of dolphin that make uncompressed saves
1:46 PM
i think it can be usefull
1:46 PM
https://github.com/NarryG/dolphin/releases
NarryG/dolphin
dolphin - Narry's Corruption focused modification of Dolphin
Laenthor 12/10/2017 1:55 PM
A good use would be downloading any savestate from the internet and using it with no issues
GerbilSoft 12/10/2017 3:35 PM
so i checked an ASTC texture file and found this header
3:35 PM
`00000000 13 ab a1 5c 08 08 01 00 02 00 00 02 00 01 00 00 |...\............| 00000010 34 05 9b 55 40 96 c9 8c 0d fe 49 01 00 40 88 6b |4..U@.....I..@.k| 00000020 08 c5 4e 4d 27 5f 89 84 47 d1 9a 40 20 24 24 4b |..NM'_..G..@ $$K| 00000030 34 c5 a6 63 02 de 6f 5c c7 fe 61 24 90 03 6b a0 |4..c..o\..a$..k.|`
3:35 PM
>13 ab a1 5c
3:35 PM
byteswap: 5c a1 ab 13 == "SCALABLE"
3:35 PM
ha
3:35 PM
not implementing ASTC right now though - it's a ridiculously complicated format
aldelaro5 12/10/2017 5:19 PM
@Laenthor assuming both person has the EXACT same version, savestates aren;t that reliable tbh and it's much better off to put the saves to gci folder and send gci cause savestates aren;t that stable
Laenthor 12/10/2017 5:20 PM
Sure
aldelaro5 12/10/2017 5:21 PM
to replace the save which ios what I do when i research stuff, you pcik the save you want, copy it to the gci folder, copy the default name, delete the current save and rename the save you want to the default name and there, you loaded a save
5:22 PM
there''s also the memcard manager which I haven';t used in a long time
Chorus Line 12/10/2017 8:30 PM
punk7890 12/10/2017 8:37 PM
hi
divingkxt 12/10/2017 8:53 PM
Hello.
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 11:03 PM
Let me tell you about this "Joseph" guy
11:03 PM
In case people don't know who who Joseph. He is a 22 year old kid and he used to even be my buddy boy. But all of a sudden he turned against me. At the time I was the only person who had the Ratchet and clank 2 beta. He gave me threats for me not giving it to him and then acts like it seem I had a oblgation to give it to him or he will make an exposure video of me. Since he done buisness with me in past. He also said he going to leak all my stuff. This very kid thinks all this little action is doing litte to no damage but it really a HUGE one. Killing the value of the beta I gave him. Then somehow he manages to get RC2 beta then leak it. So now he lost all my trust ever. Good news is I got another Ratchet PS2 beta coming not from Lombax13's collection so now if I decide to not share to one person you should all know why (edited)
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:10 PM
Smoke 12/10/2017 11:10 PM
rip
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 11:13 PM
@Xkeeper that is quite a rude comment
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuKzt7p-MnM
CreepyRobotUncle
Filthy Frank - Nobody gives a shit
Revenant 12/10/2017 11:13 PM
TCRF isn't a website about "business" and if you're more concerned with "value" than with helping to make information available to the public for free then you are in the wrong place
11:13 PM
namaste
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 11:14 PM
I get it but you know
11:14 PM
even beta are private dosen't mean I can't put info about it
11:14 PM
on your wiki
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:14 PM
im part of a club that literally yanks prototypes from hoarders and dumps them for free in the internet because fuck profitting off of hoarding shit for your own gain
Revenant 12/10/2017 11:14 PM
we literally have a rule against writing about builds that are only in the hands of hoarders
11:14 PM
so yeah
11:15 PM
if that's your game then we aren't interested
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 11:15 PM
you know the buisness of assembler and obsecure games ?
11:15 PM
been leaked by that bastard anyways so late. I have nothing private RN
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:17 PM
if i had your proto i'd leak it too
11:17 PM
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:20 PM
what even is the point of hoarding a prorotype except sitting on the egg for the value to go up I guess
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:21 PM
"i have the shiny cool thing and u dont loser" basically. kindergarten shit
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 11:21 PM
you realise I lost 100s if not 1000s
11:21 PM
how old are you even ?
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:22 PM
hey chucklefuck
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 11:22 PM
that profit could go to good use like buying more prototypes ?
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:22 PM
see I can understand that for like a new car or something but it's not like the guy's carrying his SNES to the beach to play the Super Mario Kart prototype
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:22 PM
ive dropped over 3000 bucks on prototypes ive released free to the internet
11:22 PM
you can kiss my ass
11:22 PM
also another 3000 bucks hosting this fuckin website
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 11:22 PM
you know how much the last prototype sold for on neo-geo
11:22 PM
$30, 000 USD
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:23 PM
on top of that it's not like a dumped proto cartridge just immediately loses all value, I mean fuckin' postage stamps with 1 letter wrong sell for thousands
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:23 PM
anyway that's enough of this guy
11:23 PM
bye
╲⎝⧹ John Cena vs wimpykid ⧸⎠╱ 12/10/2017 11:23 PM
hey
11:23 PM
don't ban me yet
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:23 PM
if you really care enough about being a money-grubbing sod
11:23 PM
just dump the proto and then sell the cart
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:23 PM
"don't ban me yet" (banned)
11:23 PM
good shit
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:23 PM
trust me you can get $$$$ for it I promise
11:24 PM
why does he care so much about losing his dad's money anyway
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:25 PM
idk but good riddance
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:25 PM
there's about a 100% chance that guy was some fat kid with a bowl cut and a vaguely rich dad who spent nothing but his own time on that game
Smoke 12/10/2017 11:25 PM
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:26 PM
"stop ruining the value of my RARE PROTOTYPES"
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/10/2017 11:26 PM
@Smoke coincidentally enough his username used to be "wimpykid" lmao
Smoke 12/10/2017 11:26 PM
lol
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:27 PM
and that's just more confirmation
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:28 PM
opens up a window to let the stench of failure dissipate
11:28 PM
anyway hope y'alls nights goin good
11:28 PM
no news on the air fart proto disk yet, hopefully soon
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11:29 PM
id hope we can dump it by end of january at the worst
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:29 PM
what game
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:30 PM
Air Jordans: The Game
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:30 PM
nice
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:32 PM
air fortress
Revenant 12/10/2017 11:32 PM
flying buttresses
Zeether 12/10/2017 11:33 PM
The $30k Neo Geo prototype was a scam
11:33 PM
IIRC
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:33 PM
素敵
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:33 PM
that makes it even better
Zeether 12/10/2017 11:33 PM
Aero Fighters 3
11:34 PM
Actually no that wasn't a prototype it was just a really fucking rare AES cart
11:34 PM
Neo Geo prototype hoarders suck though
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:35 PM
Shouldn't that fall under any hoarders suck?
Zeether 12/10/2017 11:35 PM
I talked to someone from the community last month and he brought up the time someone duped people into thinking he had a copy of Last Odyssey
Meow 12/10/2017 11:36 PM
"lost thousands" @Xkeeper he traded a demo disk he got for £50 for the iso, he lost nothing. he's been caught scamming multiple times and was banned from OG for harassing members and then from AG for making threats to members and being rude.
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:36 PM
Aero Fighters Assault proto would be neat. I remember playing that when I was younger
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/10/2017 11:37 PM
Once again, I've dealt with so much of his shit
Meow 12/10/2017 11:37 PM
you mean NPZ? lol
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/10/2017 11:37 PM
Yeah.
Meow 12/10/2017 11:38 PM
yeah.. I tried giving him a chance he kept blowing them.
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:38 PM
its odd that there is people like that to begin with
divingkxt 12/10/2017 11:39 PM
Not really.
11:39 PM
They're like IRL Gollums, really.
11:41 PM
Any time they see a prototype highly valuable, they'll be like "My precious!" every time.
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:42 PM
Yeah, that I don't understand. If I owned a proto and could dump it without any legal trouble, I'd share the love around.
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divingkxt 12/10/2017 11:43 PM
Because they realize that prototype is very rare and want to make as much money off it as possible.
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:44 PM
hes dming me on twitter
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:44 PM
do tell
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:44 PM
11:44 PM
bottom up
11:44 PM
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:44 PM
...
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:45 PM
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:46 PM
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:49 PM
Xkeeper @xkeepah ps i screenshot all these messages & shared them and we're all laughing at you.
11:49 PM
3
Meow 12/10/2017 11:49 PM
https://assemblergames.com/threads/ratchet-and-clank-2-beta-iso-download.67741/#post-957910 my response. a second person calling him a scammer. once is an issue. twice? come on. plus he tried selling a demo he bought for £50 for $1200 on AG and got caught out
Ratchet and clank 2 beta iso download
Hello to you all I decided to feel generous and I give out a beta build of ratchet and clank 2 for 1st time it went public...
Deleted User 12/10/2017 11:49 PM
lol
Meow 12/10/2017 11:50 PM
And yes, I do have prototypes but I can't legally release all. I've made that clear hundreds of times
Xkeeper 12/10/2017 11:50 PM
anonymously send them to people :P
Meow 12/10/2017 11:50 PM
I released around 180GB of betas this year..
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:51 PM
I assume all of them were SuperSponge prototypes
Meow 12/10/2017 11:51 PM
and I would but most are under NDa's etc.
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:51 PM
use a public computer and dump em
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:51 PM
you released all 180 of them or whatever
divingkxt 12/10/2017 11:51 PM
Well... no.
11:51 PM
The SuperSponge protos were from LemurBoy.
Meow 12/10/2017 11:51 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/forums/og-prototype-release-2017.144/ this is all I released this year, I released £500 of sonic betas the year before too.
OG Prototype Release 2017
divingkxt 12/10/2017 11:52 PM
That kid goes all in with licensed games, I'll give him that.
Meow 12/10/2017 11:52 PM
that N64 beta was $850 alone altough not mine
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:52 PM
I kid, but anyways I've seen what you released and thanks for that. I generally don't have a clue what the games are though. It's always nice to see people dump stuff.
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:52 PM
@Macrepeh uh oh someone name dropped your best friend
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:54 PM
@Meow the TWINE proto?
Meow 12/10/2017 11:54 PM
yeah paul released that one
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:54 PM
wow.
11:54 PM
I found a debug menu in that, haven;t put it on the wiki though
Meow 12/10/2017 11:54 PM
ohh nice
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:54 PM
how dare you
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:55 PM
I think I posted in that thread
Meow 12/10/2017 11:55 PM
ahh I thought I saw your name on OG haha
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/10/2017 11:55 PM
@divingkxt he did a ton of stuff with the LittleBigPlanet page :P
divingkxt 12/10/2017 11:55 PM
@Anony1200 Plenty of things people haven't posted on TCRF.
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:56 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/the-world-is-not-enough-twine-beta.22674/#post-176770
N64 - The World is Not Enough (TWINE) Beta
Another release brought to you by yours truly... The World is Not Enough (TWINE) N64 Beta [IMG] Here are some gameplay shots... [IMG] [IMG]...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/10/2017 11:56 PM
https://www.models-resource.com/submitter/lemurboy12/ he's also ripped a ton of stuff
divingkxt 12/10/2017 11:56 PM
I know that, shoop, as I do frequently look over who contributes what.
Meow 12/10/2017 11:56 PM
Talking LBP I found some data on a PS3 dev kit but idk much about LBP I'll get it uploaded at some point.
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:56 PM
yeah but that debug menu on whatever game we're talking about right now is perhaps the most important piece of unused content ever uploaded to TCRF
11:56 PM
except that picture of windows world domination edition or whatever found in that rugrats GBC game
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:57 PM
??? all debug menus are important
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/10/2017 11:57 PM
@Meow oooo
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:57 PM
why without that single debug menu, life as we know it may come to an end and we'll all go back to living in caves and talking about how Doki Doki Panic is what they called Mario 2 in Japan again
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/10/2017 11:57 PM
I wonder if that was Media Molecules devkit
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:57 PM
scary stuff
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/10/2017 11:57 PM
the most important thing is the big chunk of norton utilities 7 lurking inside color a dinosaur fite me
divingkxt 12/10/2017 11:57 PM
https://tcrf.net/Rugrats:_Time_Travelers
Rugrats: Time Travelers
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:58 PM
no I lied it's that porn site that's in the data of an unreleased GBC game
11:58 PM
boy howdy there sure was a lot of weird stuff lurking inside those transparent cartridges (edited)
GerbilSoft 12/10/2017 11:58 PM
i missed some hilarity
11:58 PM
:V
divingkxt 12/10/2017 11:58 PM
https://tcrf.net/DynaMike
DynaMike
11:59 PM
Much it caused by games being forcibly released on 1 Megabyte cartridges.
Anony1200 12/10/2017 11:59 PM
wario barker would kill me for using were instead of was there
punk7890 12/10/2017 11:59 PM
the weirdest thing I think I've found is some hentai in this one game I did a tcrf page for. Though I didn't post the pictures since I don't think those are suited for tcrf
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/10/2017 11:59 PM
punk7890 12/11/2017 12:00 AM
I wonder what the weirdest unused thing on tcrf is?
Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:00 AM
actually contradicting my joke from earlier
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 12:00 AM
@punk7890 this was one odd thing I discovered
Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:00 AM
I actually found a trove of unreleased stuff for everyone's favorite WW2 RTS Company of Heroes a few years back (mostly unused voice lines) and I never got to upload them because I've been banned from the site for like 3 years now
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 12:01 AM
That is the CEO of Insomniac Games with a mullet
punk7890 12/11/2017 12:01 AM
I think I remember seeing a really odd dev message from a nes game
Meow 12/11/2017 12:01 AM
https://zendimg.com/image/lZb5 @CELL Broadband Engine 2006
Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:01 AM
that's a true story too
Meow 12/11/2017 12:01 AM
this was on a burnout dev kit.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 12:01 AM
Meow 12/11/2017 12:01 AM
I plan to release it at some stage. it's not a complete build.
punk7890 12/11/2017 12:02 AM
do you happen to have a Need For Speed Underground 2 PS2 build anywhere
Meow 12/11/2017 12:03 AM
I don't sadly, only the underground gc preview and the most wanted 05 ps2 alpha and the prostreet alpha for 360
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 12:03 AM
Why would Criterion Games have LBP stuff on their devkit?
Meow 12/11/2017 12:03 AM
apparently they worked on lbp at some stage
punk7890 12/11/2017 12:04 AM
ah bummer. I've never played those games. Thanks for releasing those though. (edited)
12:04 AM
I played too much of NSFU2 back in the day
Meow 12/11/2017 12:04 AM
I've been trying to track one down but had no luck. I just keep coming across MW 2012 stuff or Rivals lately.
12:05 AM
I know of a partial carbon build for og xbox but thats missing nearly all files
punk7890 12/11/2017 12:05 AM
Rivals seems like a pretty fun game. I just recently started playing it myself.
divingkxt 12/11/2017 12:05 AM
https://tcrf.net/User:Kaiser_Anony1200 ?
User:Kaiser Anony1200
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 12:06 AM
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Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:06 AM
yeah what happened is
12:06 AM
I made a new account, right, and I tried to log in and it said it didn't exist but when I tried to re-register it claimed it did
Meow 12/11/2017 12:06 AM
A rivals build leaked awhile back but it's buggy and hard to get running
Deleted User 12/11/2017 12:07 AM
what were the account names
Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:07 AM
this happened 2 times and then when I finally could log in- on my 3rd account- all 3 had been banned
12:07 AM
don't remember, it's been 3 years
Deleted User 12/11/2017 12:07 AM
so make a new one?
Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:07 AM
I'm uncreative enough I bet I'd get banned again
12:07 AM
that would be epic though
divingkxt 12/11/2017 12:07 AM
Just create an account named Kaiser Anony1200.
Deleted User 12/11/2017 12:07 AM
don't make trouble and there's no reason to be banned
Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:09 AM
and the real twist to the story is
12:09 AM
I've long lost my findings and I don't have anything of value to upload at the moment so I'll hold out on that until I do
Deleted User 12/11/2017 12:09 AM
k
Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:09 AM
auto-banned
12:09 AM
it would be more funny than not if I got auto-banned for similar looking account again
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 12:12 AM
Don't sell prototypes and you won't be banned either
Meow 12/11/2017 12:12 AM
https://twitter.com/npzman1/status/940077928120950786 @Xkeeper
npzMan|#JLReunion (@npzman1)
Why do people at @CuttingRoomWiki has to be dickheads. Then ban me from their discord. I told not to and they did. I tried adding a admin on discord so I could talk convince to be unbanned and they are too stupid to see that. with all the prototypes I am getting they will beg me.
12:13 AM
he's been doing this ever since he turned up lol
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 12:13 AM
lol
Meow 12/11/2017 12:13 AM
"with all the prototypes I am getting they will beg me." stealing more like
Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:14 AM
you could kill all the slugs in America with that much salt
divingkxt 12/11/2017 12:14 AM
Says the kid with a TuxPaint avatar.
Anony1200 12/11/2017 12:15 AM
he put the hashtag for the justice league reunion in his name
12:15 AM
what would Aquaman say to behavior like that (edited)
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 12:19 AM
12:19 AM
laffs are at an all time high
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 12:19 AM
lord of tcrf
12:19 AM
Deleted User 12/11/2017 12:19 AM
shitlord
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divingkxt 12/11/2017 12:21 AM
Might as well block him from Twitter too.
12:21 AM
Kid's got an ego bigger than Wiseau's.
12:21 AM
"Deleted that last tweet it was kind going too far"
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 12:22 AM
no he's a load right now
12:22 AM
he just keeps talking
Laenthor 12/11/2017 12:23 AM
Another person who will go in tcrf's "troublesome users" list most likely XD
divingkxt 12/11/2017 12:23 AM
12:23 AM
"Sometimes I rant about : Ben 10 Crash Bandicoot Ratchet and Clank."
12:23 AM
That marks off at least a couple checkboxes on my obnoxious little kid on the web list.
Nex 12/11/2017 12:23 AM
I was already wondering when he gets banned
divingkxt 12/11/2017 12:24 AM
He's not on the wiki yet.
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 12:24 AM
her got bopped from here already
Nex 12/11/2017 12:24 AM
He got banned from like all places I visit so it was already a matter of time
12:24 AM
He is banned from 50+ discord channels according to him btw
Laenthor 12/11/2017 12:25 AM
This person has some serious anger issues...
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12:25 AM
There's making an "I'M ANGERY!" joke once in a while and then there's psychos
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Nex 12/11/2017 12:25 AM
His reddit account is pure gold, ranting about ben 10 and begging to let him back on a ben 10 fansite lolz (edited)
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/11/2017 12:25 AM
most people are not banned from over 50 discord servers does he really not consider that perhaps he might be doing something wrong
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12:26 AM
Laenthor 12/11/2017 12:26 AM
I think he's doing it for the memes, but at some point even the most satirical person will take a break...
Nex 12/11/2017 12:27 AM
When he got banned from Assemblergames he came to no reason to me and begged me to help him getting unbanned
Laenthor 12/11/2017 12:27 AM
"Hey do you want any Ben 10 fanfics?" -"You want to go home and rethink your life"
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/11/2017 12:27 AM
that .jpg is animated in my browser
Deleted User 12/11/2017 12:28 AM
cause it's a gif with the wrong extension
Laenthor 12/11/2017 12:28 AM
same here. Are jpgs animated like gifs now?
12:28 AM
oh
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 12/11/2017 12:28 AM
you'd think there'd be some kind of check against that
Deleted User 12/11/2017 12:28 AM
good to know Discord doesn't catch types, but web browsers do.
Laenthor 12/11/2017 12:29 AM
Crap it's getting late I'm off to bed for real!
12:29 AM
see ya guys
GerbilSoft 12/11/2017 12:29 AM
damn i missed it again
12:30 AM
he's now whining that he got banned?
12:31 AM
it's funny because he brought up that random crap out of the blue for seemingly no reason :V
Nex 12/11/2017 12:31 AM
He always does
Deleted User 12/11/2017 12:31 AM
lookin' for attention I guess.
GerbilSoft 12/11/2017 12:31 AM
...shit, now i know what that reminds me of
12:32 AM
[11:03 PM] The Question: Let me tell you about this "Joseph" guy
12:32 AM
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
12:32 AM
:V
Nex 12/11/2017 12:32 AM
https://www.reddit.com/user/npzman/
12:32 AM
The post history says a lot
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 12:35 AM
12:35 AM
holy shit
Nex 12/11/2017 12:39 AM
Top comedy gold
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 12:42 AM
12:42 AM
god damn
Dezent 12/11/2017 12:42 AM
10/10 this brightened my morning
ƒluƒƒу 12/11/2017 12:43 AM
bloody fuckin hell
Nex 12/11/2017 12:43 AM
I signed his petition lmao
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 12:50 AM
just. good damn
12:50 AM
was not expecting this
Luminar 12/11/2017 12:50 AM
Hello
12:50 AM
Seems he didn't last long
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 12:51 AM
nope
Dezent 12/11/2017 12:56 AM
He seems like a nice fellow /s
GerbilSoft 12/11/2017 12:57 AM
wow
12:57 AM
that's like the five stages of grief in a nutshell
12:57 AM
.. "He has been banned from the website for sexually harassing someone on Twitter."
12:57 AM
We apologize for the fault in the stupid users. Those responsible have been sacked.
Revenant 12/11/2017 1:01 AM
more like smacked
Azure 12/11/2017 1:56 AM
whoa, I'm gone for a few hours and I miss xkeeper kicking someone's ass
eientei 12/11/2017 1:56 AM
Same
Azure 12/11/2017 1:57 AM
I'm not that big on public shaming even if someone deserves it, but eh... every once in a while it's kinda hard to resist
FMecha 12/11/2017 3:13 AM
So C3 Racing have two variations: Max Power Racing (branded after the magazine) and TNN Motorsports Hardcore TR (US release with completely different cars)
3:14 AM
Which one should be title? Documenting the changes between C3<->MPR and C3<->TR will cause some confusions...
ƒluƒƒу 12/11/2017 3:31 AM
i feel like in situations like this the best you can do is flip a coin and hope for the best
FMecha 12/11/2017 3:38 AM
Talking of which, TNN TR has a Steam/GOG release, even though the TNN brand is dead
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 3:45 AM
when you say shit like "im gonna be the lord of tcrf lol" then you're getting taken down
Dezent 12/11/2017 3:58 AM
What if you say it ironically
Anony1200 12/11/2017 4:31 AM
that'd be just as dumb
4:31 AM
it's a dumb-ass thing to call yourself anyway
4:32 AM
what exactly would it entail, anyway? maybe legal control of the server the site's hosted on?
Dezent 12/11/2017 4:32 AM
Anony1200 12/11/2017 4:33 AM
are there any subjects to the Lordship of TCRF?
4:33 AM
all of those Floorite peasants farming unused graphics and shit
Nex 12/11/2017 4:35 AM
Anony1200 12/11/2017 4:37 AM
kinda reminds me of that King of the Playground character from Recess
eientei 12/11/2017 4:48 AM
King Bob
4:48 AM
http://recess.wikia.com/wiki/King_Bob Not to be confused with the minion
King Bob
Robert "King Bob" is the uni-browed king of the Third Street School playground. He has a very demanding and impatient personality, yet he is an honest and fair ruler. His best friends are Jordan...
Anony1200 12/11/2017 4:52 AM
glad he's number DS logo on his sports team
4:52 AM
bet he gets confused with #8 a lot
Meow 12/11/2017 7:00 AM
I'm glad NPZ could bring joy to you too. He's stupidness has kept us smiling on OG's discord for weeks even renaming offtopic just to talk about his daily drama.
Foas 12/11/2017 7:02 AM
Yo can i get a link for the OG discord? I wanna read that shit
EdTheNerd 12/11/2017 8:03 AM
Just read the history and holy kek
8:03 AM
8:04 AM
please do not do that
8:04 AM
Lost my shit at the ben10 club
Laenthor 12/11/2017 8:29 AM
The weird thing is that I was rewatching the original ben 10 yesterday. It's still a pretty good show.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 8:48 AM
I wonder how long it will be before he's on the wiki
Dezent 12/11/2017 8:49 AM
Hopefully soon
8:49 AM
He needs to be immortalised in text
EdTheNerd 12/11/2017 10:01 AM
Here lies npzman, he never scored
Nex 12/11/2017 12:14 PM
national npz memorial day
Deleted User 12/11/2017 12:17 PM
remember me
12:17 PM
is that understood
Revenant 12/11/2017 12:19 PM
press F to pay disrespects
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Laenthor 12/11/2017 1:18 PM
Holy shit I just passed my exam I was sure to fail! Now tomorow's stress day (2 big exams) and I'm pretty much out of the danger zone
1:18 PM
*after that
Dezent 12/11/2017 1:48 PM
Nice, glhf on your exams
alan 12/11/2017 1:51 PM
just read npzmans twitter
1:51 PM
Dezent 12/11/2017 1:57 PM
Link please
1:57 PM
I want to read a bedtime story
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 1:58 PM
https://twitter.com/npzman1?s=09
npzMan|#JLReunion (@npzman1)
A mate on twitter. DMs are open because why the hell not. Sometimes I rant about : Ben 10 Crash Bandicoot Ratchet and Clank. Retweets are not endorsement
Tweets
830
Followers
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Dezent 12/11/2017 1:59 PM
thank you
Revenant 12/11/2017 2:01 PM
https://twitter.com/frankcifaldi/status/940293321921933312
Frank Cifaldi (@frankcifaldi)
SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: In an attempt to keep our patrons happy with Patreon's recent changes, the @GameHistoryOrg Discord has created a dedicated channel to talk about Bubsy the Bobcat. Remember, access is only $10 a month (cheap!). https://t.co/RJtVn6L9fX
2:01 PM
https://twitter.com/frankcifaldi/status/940295144795811840
Frank Cifaldi (@frankcifaldi)
@GameHistoryOrg It's called #bubsy_litterbox, and because we have so many historians hanging around, we're scooping out all kinds of interesting clumps.
alan 12/11/2017 2:04 PM
br b donating rn
alan 12/11/2017 2:11 PM
(SELLING) RARE ONE OF A KIND PS2 MEMORY CARD 8MB ($3000)
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 2:14 PM
frank is a total goober
Deleted User 12/11/2017 2:14 PM
Comes w/ spongebob supersponge sticker, serious bids only
setz 12/11/2017 2:20 PM
irc bridges are the death of irc
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 2:21 PM
yes
setz 12/11/2017 2:21 PM
rip
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 2:21 PM
:rip:
2:21 PM
irc is a dying world, sadly
setz 12/11/2017 2:21 PM
yeah
2:21 PM
even im mostly using discord
2:21 PM
i keep forgetting servers i used to be on anytime i reinstall irc
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 2:23 PM
it's just easier. i can be on everywhere on every pc without having to maintain 4 different clinets
sam 12/11/2017 2:34 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 2:34 PM
henlow
Luminar 12/11/2017 2:34 PM
hello
sam 12/11/2017 2:34 PM
Where have I seen you before luminar? Haha
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 2:35 PM
Luminar 12/11/2017 2:39 PM
this looks like a fan game but it is not
Sneaker 12/11/2017 2:46 PM
hallo
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 2:46 PM
henlo
Revenant 12/11/2017 2:47 PM
hey i know you
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 2:48 PM
Dezent 12/11/2017 2:53 PM
Juniper Sage 12/11/2017 3:00 PM
Perfect
Salt 12/11/2017 3:07 PM
Hello everyone!
Xkeeper 12/11/2017 3:07 PM
hey.
Nex 12/11/2017 3:12 PM
Heyo
Luminar 12/11/2017 3:13 PM
hello
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 3:14 PM
densy 12/11/2017 3:41 PM
I heartily endorse the VGHF Bubsy discord channel
Luminar 12/11/2017 4:07 PM
ok made a video of all 7 images that I have found on the jak x demo disc
4:07 PM
https://youtu.be/s88fBMNXyYM
Luminar Light
Very Old Jak X Menu Images (Most Likely Pre-alpha)
4:07 PM
will add them to TCRF soon....
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/11/2017 4:15 PM
>(Most Likely Pre-alpha)
4:15 PM
its all BETA
Luminar 12/11/2017 4:17 PM
Removed it from the title minutes after uploading
4:19 PM
It doesn't matter what is it from, I removed it because people took my guessing seriously
4:19 PM
Let them decide what it is
LarryLemmy 12/11/2017 4:25 PM
How many Jak X prototypes do you have?
Luminar 12/11/2017 4:52 PM
I don't think he has any.
LarryLemmy 12/11/2017 4:55 PM
I mean you
Luminar 12/11/2017 4:56 PM
0 but you know this 1 if that demo matters for you
4:58 PM
I don't have all the known prototypes, but I have all that can be downloaded from the internet I guess
Meow 12/11/2017 5:26 PM
If anybody's missing any of the betas from the original prototopia let me know, I saved like 500GB before it went down and me and EHW from HiddenPalace found a few others. Got like 400GB uploaded as it is.
5:30 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/v4s3okkonfb45/Ghost_Rider_Builds stuff like that
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Luminar 12/11/2017 5:31 PM
What is the prototopia?
Meow 12/11/2017 5:32 PM
The acutal link is for OG members only but I have no issue linking stuff when people need it. reason for doing so is to keep it alive longer the the original one which went down early this year.
5:33 PM
If someone wants it to keep mirrors out then I don't mind an exception though.
5:33 PM
I just don't want hundreds of gigs being lost like last time.
Nex 12/11/2017 5:33 PM
Protopia basically saved everything that leaked in 1 place
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:34 PM
Sounds good, is there any jak and daxter prototype saved?
5:34 PM
Or they were never leaked? (edited)
Meow 12/11/2017 5:35 PM
None I could see sadly but loads was lost due to how assembler managed things. I found loads of links to dead stuff and it seems to be lost for good.
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:36 PM
Ok
5:36 PM
I guess jak prototypes were never even leaked
5:36 PM
But I don't really understand why
5:36 PM
Ratchet has tons of leaked betas
Meow 12/11/2017 5:37 PM
Me and EHW from HiddenPalace spent weeks looking for torrents to old stuff. found some bits leaked over 10 years ago people forgot about.
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:37 PM
Preserving is a good thing
LarryLemmy 12/11/2017 5:38 PM
Will it be on the wayback machine or is it too obscure?
Meow 12/11/2017 5:38 PM
that's the reason I started obscuregamers funny enough. I just felt AG wasn't doing stuff right then the drama happened.. so I left there too
5:38 PM
Mines on mediafire currently like the original was
5:38 PM
reason I don't leave the link public. it could get taken down which would be weeks of wasted time again
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:41 PM
Have you ever heard anything about any jak and daxter preview version or something? Even if you don't have anything I wonder if you ever found any info related to them
Meow 12/11/2017 5:42 PM
I've seen 1 build but I wasn't ever able to get the owner to dump it
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:43 PM
Which jak game?
Meow 12/11/2017 5:43 PM
2 I think it was not sure.
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:44 PM
Something july?
Meow 12/11/2017 5:44 PM
apaprently there was a leaked jak 2 build but I never found it
5:44 PM
no idea on date sadly. I wasn't sent pics of the disk
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:44 PM
Or maybe it was june
5:44 PM
Where did you hear about a leaked build?
Meow 12/11/2017 5:45 PM
The guy who has this said there was a leaked one from years ago. but that's the issue with AG, half the links are on random filehosts that have died like megaupload.com/rapidshare.com
Nex 12/11/2017 5:46 PM
Riipppp rapidshare
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:46 PM
And btw I know someone who has a jak 2 preview build but he doesn't want to share it at all, not even sell it. Can't blame him for it, he worked as a journalist. They aren't obliged to leak their disc.
5:47 PM
But he could release it anonymously
Meow 12/11/2017 5:47 PM
yeah many of my contacts are like that, or they work as developers still so can't help much. it's shocking but there's many devs that feel preservations important. One's sending me an SGI Octane next month used to develop a bunch of xbox/ps2 games
alan 12/11/2017 5:48 PM
arent they like
5:48 PM
trying to find another way to put the prototopia stuff online
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:48 PM
This person works as a developer
alan 12/11/2017 5:48 PM
instead of the fire for the media
Meow 12/11/2017 5:49 PM
AG went down during that time so I just made a v2 on mediafire.
5:49 PM
Paid for a year upfront.
5:49 PM
Just seeing as I'm not welcome at AG over a bunch of lies from the owner I never shared it there
Luminar 12/11/2017 5:53 PM
Ok well if you happen to hear anything jak and daxter-related, please tell me. I am actively researching the games with a very few other people. And getting a beta would be awesome.
Meow 12/11/2017 5:53 PM
Will do. I always keep an out when I can for people.
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LarryLemmy 12/11/2017 5:55 PM
Do you know of any Kingdom Hearts prototypes?
Meow 12/11/2017 5:56 PM
burn.. I mean hi!
5:56 PM
All I do is help when I can
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 5:56 PM
Oh shit
5:56 PM
Sorry
Meow 12/11/2017 5:56 PM
Nex got most of my stuff before I leaked it lol.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 5:56 PM
I was trying to add a reaction
5:56 PM
But I deleted it by accident
Meow 12/11/2017 5:57 PM
There's 2/3 king hearts betas leaked
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 5:57 PM
Nex 12/11/2017 5:57 PM
LarryLemmy 12/11/2017 5:57 PM
The original KH?
Meow 12/11/2017 5:57 PM
checking now
Nex 12/11/2017 5:57 PM
The card game remake ps2 thing and a ps2 kh2 localization proto
LarryLemmy 12/11/2017 5:58 PM
Oh wait I think I knew about them
5:58 PM
I think I have the KH2 proto but never got round to checking it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 5:58 PM
-nex
Meow 12/11/2017 5:59 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/a8phrfg77a8fky7/Kingdom_Hearts_Re_Chain_of_Memories_%28Oct_01%2C_2008_Preview%29.rar
Kingdom Hearts Re Chain of Memories (Oct 01, 2008 Preview).rar
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5:59 PM
@Borman leaked this one I think and brb phone
Nex 12/11/2017 6:00 PM
Ayyyy I got quoted
6:00 PM
Too soon™
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 6:00 PM
Yeah I deleted your message by accident sorry
Nex 12/11/2017 6:01 PM
Mod abuse?!?!!$2',3,$8$
6:01 PM
Imma call the cyber police
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 6:01 PM
no ls
6:01 PM
Nex 12/11/2017 6:02 PM
My dad works at discord
6:02 PM
He will ban you
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 6:02 PM
i dont know why it's so hard to be consistent with this menu
Nex 12/11/2017 6:02 PM
Big suprise npzmans account is not banned yet tbh
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 6:03 PM
On servers you moderate, "delete" is at the bottom, but on servers you don't moderate "add reaction" is at the bottom
Nex 12/11/2017 6:03 PM
Ik what you mean haha
6:03 PM
I moderate 2 servers myself
6:05 PM
I only pinned messages as accident so far
punk7890 12/11/2017 6:40 PM
@Meow Do you happen to have a link to an apparent Okami PS2 beta? I've seen it mentioned before but apparently its been lost forever.
Meow 12/11/2017 6:42 PM
uh I might actually have that disk I'm not even sure LOL
6:42 PM
I know there was a few japanese builds in this pile but I haven't paid for them
6:44 PM
OKAMI (PS2 SAMPLE Ver 1.00 EUR_PUB 09-27-2006) apparently I do
6:44 PM
is this the one?
6:44 PM
not sure how much it was but it's in my "unpaid" folder lol
punk7890 12/11/2017 6:45 PM
I'm not sure tbh. I just heard that there was a beta of it. I was under the assumption that it was a JP beta
Meow 12/11/2017 6:46 PM
once I finally get around to paying this guy 750 for the lot I'll post it and message you a link
punk7890 12/11/2017 6:46 PM
ok thanks
Meow 12/11/2017 6:46 PM
the disks safe/dumped and stored on multiple drives I've been working through 3k of "dev" debt which isn't helping as I'm broke
punk7890 12/11/2017 6:47 PM
sounds rough
Meow 12/11/2017 6:47 PM
it is
6:47 PM
I'm having to build an office just to store dev stuff in
6:47 PM
Can't even get to my computer desk anymore.. it's piled to the top with dev kits
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/11/2017 6:49 PM
6:49 PM
6:49 PM
is it from some OPSM? hm
Meow 12/11/2017 6:49 PM
na it's a debug disk
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/11/2017 6:49 PM
ah
6:50 PM
could be interesting then
Meow 12/11/2017 6:50 PM
I know it's got a debug elf but it didn't work
6:50 PM
I barely have time to research stuff I normally sent the paid stuff to @Nex
punk7890 12/11/2017 6:51 PM
oo debug. sounds neat
Nex 12/11/2017 6:51 PM
6:51 PM
Anyone here brought up oni 2 yet?
Meow 12/11/2017 6:51 PM
idk
6:52 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/26c9d5wd3zwulvn/Oni_2_%28Dec_10%2C_2002_Prototype_Unreleased_oni2dev_ps2%29.rar
Oni 2 (Dec 10, 2002 Prototype Unreleased oni2dev_ps2).rar
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6:52 PM
go research
punk7890 12/11/2017 6:52 PM
don't think so. I found a few debug info displays in it tho
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/11/2017 6:52 PM
yeah punk poked it a bit from what i recall
punk7890 12/11/2017 6:52 PM
I didn't do to much in it but it looks like it has keyboard support for something
6:53 PM
I mostly did stuff in the first game https://tcrf.net/Oni_(PlayStation_2)
Oni (PlayStation 2)
Nex 12/11/2017 6:54 PM
The oni 2 leak kinda went under tho
6:54 PM
Because of how it leaked
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/11/2017 6:55 PM
yeah didnt it change hands like 2-3 times?
Nex 12/11/2017 6:56 PM
When it leaked it was posted on the epforums
6:56 PM
And to find it you need an account
6:57 PM
Idk about the owner change
Meow 12/11/2017 7:00 PM
I still have more PS2 stuff to upload it seems
7:01 PM
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:01 PM
are they not on hiddenpalace?
Meow 12/11/2017 7:01 PM
some are some aren't
7:02 PM
I gave ehw all of them but they can only do 1.5GB links
Nex 12/11/2017 7:02 PM
Ayyy the berserk demo
Meow 12/11/2017 7:02 PM
yes i did add it lol
7:03 PM
I need to sort space out so I can upload more lol
Nex 12/11/2017 7:09 PM
I gotta make a tcrf.net article for the demo
Meow 12/11/2017 7:12 PM
Banned for 30 days, no warnings.
7:12 PM
wait sorry this isn't AG
Nex 12/11/2017 7:12 PM
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:12 PM
I noticed that the Transformers PS2 proto doesn't work on console. I wonder if its a bad dump. It plays REALLY slow in emulator
Nex 12/11/2017 7:13 PM
Knowing the guy who dumped it should be dumped correctly
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:14 PM
hm strange
Meow 12/11/2017 7:14 PM
yeah it's a good dump just a really buggy build I coudn't get it to run at all
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:14 PM
ah ok. Yeah it is at like 1FPS on emulator
Nex 12/11/2017 7:14 PM
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:15 PM
it has placeholder movies files with Star Wars episode 1 movie clips in them
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 7:16 PM
wat
leilei 12/11/2017 7:16 PM
which clips? i'm guessing a few maul swings
Meow 12/11/2017 7:16 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/39sny502fsabnss/Transformers_Armarda_%28PS2_ALPHA_3944B%29.rar
Transformers Armarda (PS2 ALPHA 3944B).rar
MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:16 PM
I'll upload in a sec
Meow 12/11/2017 7:16 PM
the build
leilei 12/11/2017 7:16 PM
Armarda
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/11/2017 7:16 PM
I'LL TRY SPINNING THATS A GOOD TRICK
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:17 PM
some of the music is a bit different as well
7:19 PM
I tried with what little I could do while the game was running but it looks like that build doesn't have any button cheats
7:22 PM
7:22 PM
7:23 PM
heh
7:23 PM
rough drawings for cutscenes
7:23 PM
Revenant 12/11/2017 7:24 PM
lol
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:25 PM
oh god, there is a video encoded with the old DivX codec
7:25 PM
on the disc
7:25 PM
I remember those days
GerbilSoft 12/11/2017 7:27 PM
Did someone say banned?
Nex 12/11/2017 7:27 PM
Banned = npzman
GerbilSoft 12/11/2017 7:28 PM
It's funny because no one set him off to get banned. He did it by himself :v
Meow 12/11/2017 7:29 PM
may have been my unfair banning from AG you saw idk
7:31 PM
Btw, I will do a redump on those black knight disks at some stage @GerbilSoft I haven't forgot. just haven't had time to sort it with this PS3 stuff lately.
GerbilSoft 12/11/2017 7:31 PM
Ok
7:31 PM
I did forget actually :v (edited)
Meow 12/11/2017 7:31 PM
all good lmao
7:32 PM
disks still sitting here
7:32 PM
I got a sims wii disk coming next year sometime
7:32 PM
7:32 PM
first ever wii silver I've seen too
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:34 PM
xseed? never thought I'd see something from them leak
Meow 12/11/2017 7:35 PM
it's a final disk I think but yeah never seen anything of theres. thankfully I can dump retail Wii and RVT-R with this custom drive. (And NR's/GC Silvers)
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:42 PM
here is the star wars movie on that transformers proto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRRn4wQuOE
punk7890
PATTRACT
Meow 12/11/2017 7:45 PM
oh wow i missed that
punk7890 12/11/2017 7:46 PM
there is a lot of placeholder cutscene stuff as well
Meow 12/11/2017 7:48 PM
7:48 PM
I found this but thats far as I looked
leilei 12/11/2017 7:58 PM
the 3.11 ; - ) codec? (edited)
divingkxt 12/11/2017 8:01 PM
I see they hired the devs' children to make storyboards.
leilei 12/11/2017 8:02 PM
one of the better pieces of programmer art i've seen
GerbilSoft 12/11/2017 8:09 PM
Are the silver discs retail?
8:09 PM
Well, like retail discs in that you can use them on a retail system (edited)
Borman 12/11/2017 9:16 PM
I should try the Transformers disc on a PS2 tool
9:16 PM
Silver discs are usually retail I'm both content and booting. There are exceptions of course
RacieB 12/12/2017 7:40 AM
That art is adorable
GerbilSoft 12/12/2017 11:49 AM
ok
11:49 AM
(late)
Meow 12/12/2017 1:39 PM
yeah silvers are sorry been busy, my worms 3d silver was exact to the final build byte for byte
Xkeeper 12/12/2017 3:03 PM
hey @GameHistoryOrg
GameHistoryOrg 12/12/2017 3:03 PM
hi!
Luminar 12/12/2017 3:03 PM
hi
Revenant 12/12/2017 3:05 PM
hallo
Xkeeper 12/12/2017 3:07 PM
also i adjusted some automod shit. added a small selection of banned words and removed some stuff
GoodTofuFriday 12/12/2017 3:09 PM
こんにちは
3:11 PM
Some of the new items i found for megaman battle network 6 are interesting. There were a set of attacks that were removed from the game but left in data mostly instact. But b3cause they were removed they also did not make corresponding physical cards to be imputed for attacks.
3:11 PM
However
3:12 PM
A translation patch re enabled these cut attacks. And you can activate them with custom made cards that match their binary unit
3:12 PM
What makesnit most interesting is that that would only work if the interface device for the cards had the data built in already
3:13 PM
So up until the games release these other attacks were planned to be included and come out as purchasable cards
3:13 PM
Maybe they removed them because of balancing issues
Azure 12/12/2017 3:58 PM
going by other stuff in that game, they don't care about balancing (especially if it required you to buy all the card stuff)
3:58 PM
I bet that interest in the game just fell off too quickly before they could release all the cards, maybe?
3:59 PM
or wait, are you saying that the card reader has data for them but the game itself can't use it without a patch?
LarryLemmy 12/12/2017 4:00 PM
Is anyone here good at understanding model animation files?
GameHistoryOrg 12/12/2017 4:01 PM
would anyone here be particularly excited about looking at a Bubsy 1 proto for SNES that hasn't been circulated yet?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/12/2017 4:02 PM
GameHistoryOrg 12/12/2017 4:02 PM
it's probably near-final, it's a review copy
4:02 PM
oh I guess this should be in #prototypes
Revenant 12/12/2017 4:02 PM
i'm sorry to say i don't know nearly enough about the final version of bubsy 1 to be the right person for this job
GameHistoryOrg 12/12/2017 4:03 PM
I'll move the convo there. And yeah @Revenant same here
GoodTofuFriday 12/12/2017 4:04 PM
@Azure "or wait, are you saying that the card reader has data for them but the game itself can't use it without a patch?"
4:04 PM
Thats right
Azure 12/12/2017 4:06 PM
huh, so I guess they had to finalize the card reader hardware before the actual game itself was finished
4:06 PM
makes sense, since it's probably way harder to produce that hardware stuff than it is to make cartridges
Laenthor 12/12/2017 4:16 PM
To learn that I passed 1 class I was sure to fail to then learning I need a pretty high score in philosophy to pass XD
GoodTofuFriday 12/12/2017 4:17 PM
yeah the readers would have been sent to takara/tomy to make since it released with the game
4:17 PM
and the the chips were released gradually
Incineroar 12/12/2017 6:49 PM
i read cards and instantly thought of the e-Reader for some reason
Azure 12/12/2017 6:52 PM
it's basically exactly like an e-reader, but they made it its own thing so they could make the cards look like battle chips
6:53 PM
(it's pretty cool though!)
punk7890 12/12/2017 7:43 PM
7:43 PM
looks like the same model viewer that was in Shin Megami Tensei III is in all of the later games.
7:43 PM
wonder if its in persona games as well
7:44 PM
there's evidence of a ton of debug stuff but most of them don't even work anymore in these games (edited)
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:04 PM
Whoa
8:05 PM
P4 has an exhaustive debug menu, but I think it's different from smt3's
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/12/2017 8:05 PM
i wonder if persona 5 has a debug menu
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:05 PM
It's visually different, at least. P3 is when they did an overhaul
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/12/2017 8:05 PM
the rpcs3 discord would flip their shit
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:06 PM
P5 has leftover ui for a debug menu
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/12/2017 8:06 PM
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:06 PM
Same as p4d's
8:06 PM
(Same engine)
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:06 PM
there probably is one
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:07 PM
So is that DDS1 or DDS2?
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:07 PM
both have it
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:07 PM
Oh nice
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:08 PM
so does that soulless army game
8:08 PM
forgot its name atm
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:08 PM
Oh awesome
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:08 PM
there's always evidence of massive debug material in these games but don't work anymore. Most of the functions are there and all but they are so scattered it'd be hard to figure out how it all worked once.
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:08 PM
Raidou Kuzunoha
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:09 PM
yeah
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:09 PM
There's a 2nd raidou game as well
8:09 PM
Atlus went nuts on ps2
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:09 PM
those games had different debug stuff. I managed to get some to display but the menus don't seem to work (can't move in them)
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:09 PM
Ahh
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:12 PM
its funny. The original Shin Megami Tensei JP version had a fail safe in it. Basically if something went wrong during loading, it'd boot the debug menu on screen lol. They removed all that in later versions though
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:12 PM
https://twitter.com/iiotenki/status/760301713446146048
Tom James, America's Pachinko Sweetheart (@iiotenki)
Wanna poke at a fancy, extensive debug menu in Japanese Persona 4? I've got the scoop here! https://t.co/ezXzZnzeDa
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:12 PM
err Shin Megami Tensei III
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:12 PM
Meant to carry this over to tcrf ages ago but never got around to it
8:13 PM
It triggers upon game boot
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:13 PM
neat, sounds like in tenesi III
8:14 PM
P3 might have that
8:14 PM
8:14 PM
from Raidou Kuzunoha doesn't work tho
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:15 PM
Dayum
8:15 PM
Jp version?
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:15 PM
I tried all versions
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:16 PM
Ok cool
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:16 PM
the model viewer works tho
8:16 PM
tons of other debug text and stuff that doesn't appear to work in that game sadly
8:17 PM
I'll probably take a look at P3 sometime and see if these debug menus are in there
Deleted User 12/12/2017 8:18 PM
Neat
8:18 PM
P3 is surprisingly clean for what it is
8:18 PM
As far as leftover graphics/models are concerned
punk7890 12/12/2017 8:19 PM
maybe different team / programmer
leilei 12/12/2017 8:23 PM
realized that doodle of that crowd would make a great twitter header
Halfbit 12/12/2017 9:10 PM
Has anyone seen GameHut?
leilei 12/12/2017 10:51 PM
paintschainer can't work much with it
punk7890 12/13/2017 12:11 AM
hmm looks like I might have found a workaround for these debug menus that don't work. It wasn't reading inputs correctly since it was looking for another function before the call was made. I'll try more stuff later
12:16 AM
12:16 AM
got that one to kinda work. At least to read some inputs.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/13/2017 12:22 AM
@punk7890 Could I convince you to help me check out the debug menus in the Danganronpa games? I've found a bunch of text in the PC executables that are clearly meant for debug menus, and I've seen at least one potential screenshot of one of them, although it's not confirmed.
12:23 AM
I suck at reverse-engineering, but I'm hoping to learn, and I figure some amount of that was required to access the P3 debug menu, right?
punk7890 12/13/2017 1:01 AM
@(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 I don't know how to do that for PC games, sorry. I mainly do N64 and PS2 games
1:02 AM
would be neat one day but I don't know op codes for PC games, or at least what Cheat Engine displays.
1:06 AM
Sometimes you don't need to know a bunch of assembly to find debug menus. It can even be as simple as a byte switch in RAM somewhere that enables one.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 12/13/2017 1:09 AM
I've actually managed to make a disassembly of the Danganronpa V3 executable, so I have a lot of data about structure and code flow information that could be useful. I'll try working on it some more, would you mind if I occasionally asked for more general help instead of specific opcodes, etc?
punk7890 12/13/2017 1:10 AM
I don't mind. I might not be always able to help though.
punk7890 12/13/2017 1:38 AM
here is all the sub debug menu stuff in Digital Devil Saga 2 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19S1GuL8-LPYjkO0FqwnYUf3DDqbkFFUw?usp=sharing
1:39 AM
none work anymore as they all look for a jump that doesn't appear to exist anymore. These were once part of the main debug menu which isn't in the game anymore
1:40 AM
I guess might be tcrf worthy?
Deleted User 12/13/2017 11:11 AM
definitely
Elyos 12/13/2017 11:42 AM
11:43 AM
Deleted User 12/13/2017 11:51 AM
is that hajime in the 2nd one
Elyos 12/13/2017 12:07 PM
Yeah
Deleted User 12/13/2017 12:25 PM
What game is this?
ƒluƒƒу 12/13/2017 12:31 PM
dangdang rumpnuts
12:31 PM
the second one, i assume
Deleted User 12/13/2017 12:48 PM
Nice
isak 12/13/2017 1:17 PM
nice stuff punk
1:18 PM
i really need to clean up the nocturne pages some day
GoodTofuFriday 12/13/2017 1:19 PM
vita version?
isak 12/13/2017 1:19 PM
according to krisanthyme, you can use the debug functions that hardlock if you add the files the game is trying to load
1:20 PM
since those files arent present in the final game, you'd have to add in substitutes. but they do work (edited)
RacieB 12/13/2017 1:25 PM
Lol Patreon is like "shit sorry shit"
Deleted User 12/13/2017 1:46 PM
Lol
LarryLemmy 12/13/2017 2:24 PM
hehe, found this in the files of a random educational game I played when I was very young
Xkeeper 12/13/2017 2:48 PM
go hame
skeletonhugger 12/13/2017 4:45 PM
Whoa, the Dangit Grandpa stuff, is that stuff left in the files?
Elyos 12/13/2017 4:53 PM
yeah
skeletonhugger 12/13/2017 4:53 PM
wow neat
4:53 PM
is there more? And is there a reason why Hajima is so far in the back?
Elyos 12/13/2017 4:54 PM
there is one or two more. and I'm not sure why hajime is so far in the back at the moment
skeletonhugger 12/13/2017 4:55 PM
did he spawn there? or did you have to walk over there? (edited)
Elyos 12/13/2017 4:57 PM
spawn there
skeletonhugger 12/13/2017 4:57 PM
huh
4:57 PM
maybe he originally was able to walk up and down?
Elyos 12/13/2017 5:01 PM
Eh, it looks like it's just the game placing im in his old location from before I replaced the files.
skeletonhugger 12/13/2017 5:01 PM
God, now I wanna know if DR1 and V3 have unused/early maps
Elyos 12/13/2017 5:02 PM
from what I've seen so far, no, except for one or two test maps
5:04 PM
Here is the area in the picture in a model viewer (edited)
5:04 PM
skeletonhugger 12/13/2017 5:05 PM
ohh neat
Elyos 12/13/2017 5:06 PM
skeletonhugger 12/13/2017 5:07 PM
oh wow
5:08 PM
looks like the hall had 3 entrances?
skeletonhugger 12/13/2017 6:20 PM
Aaaand another map done in Life is Strange
6:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/926mjJc.png
6:20 PM
50 years later, and maybe then I will finally be done with this game...
6:26 PM
Anyone who is into Dinosaur Planet here?
6:26 PM
https://discord.gg/4pAH7nx
Invite to join a server
Dev Corner
general
6:27 PM
You'll find plenty of it on there
punk7890 12/13/2017 8:43 PM
https://twitter.com/Patreon/status/941005364882845696
Patreon (@Patreon)
Creators & patrons: We've heard you loud and clear. We’re sorry, and we’re not rolling out the fees change. https://t.co/Fq7v5D1wkY
Retweets
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Smoke 12/13/2017 8:45 PM
Pranked
Dprotp 12/13/2017 9:37 PM
oh dang
Laenthor 12/13/2017 9:38 PM
The hell is going on with this user? Is he a troll or is he just that bad? https://tcrf.net/User_talk:Shadow05fromSonicretro
User talk:Shadow05fromSonicretro
9:38 PM
Oh so they cancelled the "patreon taxes"?
punk7890 12/13/2017 9:39 PM
for now at least
Dprotp 12/13/2017 9:39 PM
fuck patreon
9:39 PM
9:39 PM
garbage ass web design
punk7890 12/13/2017 9:39 PM
who knows what might happen in the future
Laenthor 12/13/2017 9:41 PM
"I know it will take a long while for us to earn back your trust." You bet it will! I was planning on pledging the tcrf patreon but you made me hesitate!
9:42 PM
Also uh rip net neutrality tomorow for you americans...
punk7890 12/13/2017 9:42 PM
yeah... that sucks. I am up in Canada but who knows how or when it might effect us
Laenthor 12/13/2017 9:45 PM
Yeah me too, but at least we get to live a little longer
9:45 PM
Hope they realise they're crashing the economy and will revert it (somewhat, they won't put the exact same law back)
9:46 PM
Why change something that ain't broken? Because Shit Pile needs more money!
punk7890 12/13/2017 9:46 PM
they want all the money of course
Laenthor 12/13/2017 9:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_avySSgWjc
Memetologist
ajit pai = ajit DIE #netneutrality
Biscuiteer 12/13/2017 11:23 PM
hmm... been eyeing the diablo 2 page for a while. I had written a lot of notes when i dug into the files months ago, but i'm not quite sure where to start...
divingkxt 12/13/2017 11:26 PM
Why not the unused graphics?
Biscuiteer 12/13/2017 11:27 PM
now that you mention it... i have notes for a bunch of unused items that aren't on the page yet
11:28 PM
also, i had found a way to open up the guild and arena maps, so i need to make some screenshots for those
Laenthor 12/13/2017 11:35 PM
I'm making a small script to check if a line is used in a bunch of files at once instead of opening them up 1 by 1. It might already exist, but I'll release it here once it's a bit more fleshed out (can only open text files properly for now)
Laenthor 12/14/2017 12:14 AM
"Someone else's work - Original work of NASA" What is that legal publishing licence actually used for on tcrf? XD
leilei 12/14/2017 1:21 AM
i know there's plenty of raw prerelease materials out there (edited)
1:22 AM
though many, many many many of the old screenshots for the press kits are 3dfx-captured jpegs so they're way below tcrf standards
eientei 12/14/2017 2:57 AM
@Laenthor >I'm making a small script to check if a line is used in a bunch of files at once instead of opening them up 1 by 1. grep
Deleted User 12/14/2017 8:49 AM
`Content is available under Attribution 3.0 Unported unless otherwise noted.`
Laenthor 12/14/2017 1:26 PM
Yeah I was pretty sure something like that already existed but I need to reinforce my prog skills a bit.
Azure 12/14/2017 3:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2l9hL6S.gifv
Nex 12/14/2017 5:26 PM
FCC voted to kill net neutrality
old acc! inactive 12/14/2017 5:29 PM
yeah but (edited)
5:30 PM
its gotta go through court or something
5:30 PM
and the effects haven't landed yet
5:30 PM
soo
5:30 PM
Smoke 12/14/2017 5:33 PM
divingkxt 12/14/2017 8:50 PM
I doubt it will be that severe, but it's not so great.
divingkxt 12/14/2017 9:16 PM
Seems B-17 Flying Fortress: The Mighty 8th! has porn links inside the game's data.
Halfbit 12/14/2017 9:18 PM
What?!?!
divingkxt 12/14/2017 9:19 PM
http://www.mobygames.com/game/b-17-flying-fortress-the-mighty-8th
B-17 Flying Fortress: The Mighty 8th! for Windows (2000) - MobyGames
B-17 Flying Fortress: The Mighty 8th! is a flight sim featuring the famous WWII bomber, made by some of the team who also created B-17 Flying Fortress for MicroProse.You can take control over every of 16 positions available in this plane: Pilot, Gunner, Bomber or communications officer. You can also...
9:19 PM
"One of the data files of the original version of the game contained links to hardcore porn websites. According to the developer, this was caused by, during development, merging several different data files into one larger file. Every time a file was added to the large file, space was allocated. However, when too much memory was allocated, the extra space was filled with what was on the disk there before."
Halfbit 12/14/2017 9:23 PM
Well, someone had fun making the game
ƒluƒƒу 12/14/2017 9:48 PM
gotta admire that honesty and forthrightness about clearly having a flying fortress fetish
Halfbit 12/14/2017 9:49 PM
Lol
Dezent 12/14/2017 10:38 PM
Gives a new meaning to mile high club
divingkxt 12/14/2017 10:55 PM
http://www.mobygames.com/game/temple-of-elemental-evil-a-classic-greyhawk-adventure
The Temple of Elemental Evil: A Classic Greyhawk Adventure for Macintosh (2014) - MobyGames
Temple of Elemental Evil is a turn-based role-playing game using the AD&D Greyhawk campaign setting with 3.5 version D&D rules. The game plot revolves the (suspected) rise of evil, originating from the Temple of Elemental Evil. In this game, players start with five generated (or pre-genera...
eientei 12/15/2017 12:30 AM
@Deleted User "Lego hobbit came out as an incomplete game, just had the first two movies and it was promised the “Battle of the Five armies” part would become a dlc eventually. They cancelled the dlc so it’ll forever be incomplete " Any remnants?
Deleted User 12/15/2017 1:49 AM
jesus christ im trying to compile XQEMU
1:49 AM
and the situation is like this
1:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx6uTTODrCM
Calvin Hall
The Simpsons - Barbecue Pit HD
eientei 12/15/2017 2:40 AM
"Le grill? What the heck is that?"
Nex 12/15/2017 3:28 AM
@eientei there are a lot of "TO DO xxx" notes for the 3rd chapter (edited)
3:28 AM
From what I remember (edited)
leilei 12/15/2017 4:08 AM
i'm surprised the half-life article doesn't cover much about the unused textures
4:08 AM
4:12 AM
eientei 12/15/2017 4:56 AM
@Nex Nice
4:56 AM
@leilei Then add them?
Nex 12/15/2017 5:31 AM
There are also a lot of unused chars etc.
leilei 12/15/2017 7:30 AM
i might on a stormy day
7:30 AM
there's plenty
7:33 AM
doing the unused sprites would be a little harder as there's barely tools to deal with the hl sprite format
Deleted User 12/15/2017 9:01 AM
wouldn't know since I don't know anything about The Hobbit itself
9:01 AM
@eientei
9:02 AM
if you give me some specific character/location/event names, I can look around on the weekend
Halfbit 12/15/2017 9:41 AM
I seem to remember there being random times when I booted up Crash Bash only to have Soyro load instead. This only happened twice when I owned the game (edited)
9:43 AM
And I didn’t push any buttons or anything. It just happened on its own
Deleted User 12/15/2017 10:22 AM
some of those games came with demos, didn't they
10:22 AM
required button presses upon boot.
Halfbit 12/15/2017 10:22 AM
Yeah.
10:23 AM
But I don’t remember pressing any buttons
Deleted User 12/15/2017 10:25 AM
uh
10:25 AM
if I'm reading this right
10:25 AM
there is a Crash Bash demo inside of a Spyro 3 demo inside of Crash bash
Halfbit 12/15/2017 10:25 AM
Spyro 3 Demo in CB
Deleted User 12/15/2017 10:25 AM
https://www.crashmania.net/en/games/crash-bash/unused-content/demos/spyro-year-of-the-dragon-demo/
Crash Bash - Spyro Year of the Dragon Demo
It's mayhem between good and evil in Crash Bandicoot's crazy party game!
10:27 AM
oh huh ok
10:28 AM
so the crash bash demo inside spyro 3 was the full game, if you unlocked the cheat menu
10:28 AM
lol
10:28 AM
https://www.crashmania.net/en/games/crash-bash/unused-content/demos/cheat-menu/
Crash Bash - Unused Content - Demos - Cheat Menu
It's mayhem between good and evil in Crash Bandicoot's crazy party game!
Halfbit 12/15/2017 10:30 AM
Crazy huh?
10:32 AM
I never played Spyro as a kid so I’m not familiar with the CB demo
10:32 AM
But I did have CB which had a Spyro demo (edited)
DevEd 12/15/2017 2:20 PM
both of these folders are created by the PC version of Dead Space
2:20 PM
note the spelling error
Erilily 12/15/2017 2:22 PM
That name is ripe for producing bootleg famicoms under
Netscape Navigator 12/15/2017 4:48 PM
the explanation for 'Hold reset while you turn the power off' on NES games with battery backup is the dumbest thing
divingkxt 12/15/2017 4:51 PM
https://tcrf.net/Crystal_Quest_(Apple_IIGS)
Crystal Quest (Apple IIGS)
4:51 PM
Never before seen Huffman compressor code.
4:51 PM
It's moderately interesting to me.
4:52 PM
Not quite sure if I ripped it right, as I had to use CiderPress's sector viewer to be able to rip it at all.
Revenant 12/15/2017 5:12 PM
should the IIGS category be under the apple II category
divingkxt 12/15/2017 5:12 PM
Eh...
5:13 PM
"FM77AV is to the FM-7 as the ZX Spectrum is to the ZX81"
5:13 PM
And likewise, Apple IIGS is to Apple II.
Revenant 12/15/2017 5:20 PM
true
divingkxt 12/15/2017 5:42 PM
While the Apple II was eventually given an expansion kit to upgrade it to a GS, it's not really a proper GS.
5:43 PM
Also, there was a PPC upgrade card, but I'm not sure if there's a way to get it.
Revenant 12/15/2017 5:49 PM
i did put AGA amiga under regular amiga but that's probably not nearly as much of a leap
5:49 PM
and i only split it off to begin with because most amiga software sites consider it a separate platform
divingkxt 12/15/2017 5:53 PM
Partially because of its lack of SW compatibility, though a lot of that is really the programmers' faults.
5:56 PM
And AGA is a real case of "Too little, too late".
Revenant 12/15/2017 6:00 PM
yeah
6:00 PM
business-wise commodore was pretty much in the toilet at that point
divingkxt 12/15/2017 6:23 PM
Just dawned on me...
6:23 PM
The Mortal Kombat people actually did Pinball games before MK.
6:23 PM
That may be why Data East decided to have their Pinball division do Tattoo Assassins.
6:24 PM
That'd be the only reasonable-ish explanation for that.
Nex 12/15/2017 7:17 PM
anyone here played MOON DS?
divingkxt 12/15/2017 8:18 PM
I know someone on the forums found something from that.
8:24 PM
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=17356
Nex 12/15/2017 9:08 PM
thanks for the link but I saw this, Im asking because I was working on a article on it but I didn't play the game enough to properly do it I think
divingkxt 12/15/2017 9:13 PM
Oh...
9:13 PM
Nope, never played it.
1
Nex 12/15/2017 9:13 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:NexIsBack/Moon if anyone wants to pick it up, feel free to copy it
Moon
punk7890 12/15/2017 9:19 PM
9:19 PM
9:19 PM
same thing as the Digital Devil Saga games, they don't work and are missing proper functions
9:19 PM
might try the JP version
9:24 PM
9:24 PM
looks like the main sub menu
punk7890 12/15/2017 10:44 PM
oh shit I got it working
10:45 PM
hmm it looks like its loaded via button inputs under the new game option... interesting
punk7890 12/15/2017 10:57 PM
10:57 PM
heh, don't know what this is but looks like you can make NPCs somehow
leilei 12/15/2017 10:59 PM
hi not3dsmaxbiped
punk7890 12/15/2017 11:06 PM
Laenthor 12/16/2017 1:24 AM
What is going on with this user. Someone else made a user page with only "..."
Revenant 12/16/2017 1:24 AM
user B was user A's very obvious rereg
Laenthor 12/16/2017 1:25 AM
wow
1:25 AM
But can't we just limit each user to their user page?
1:25 AM
A bit like how the main page is like (can view source but cannot edit)
divingkxt 12/16/2017 1:26 AM
We can prevent users from editing user pages.
1:26 AM
But in order to make it such that users can only edit their user pages requires many user groups.
Laenthor 12/16/2017 1:27 AM
Ah ok, got it.
divingkxt 12/16/2017 1:28 AM
MediaWiki limitation, in other words.
Laenthor 12/16/2017 1:28 AM
Yeah I figured it was something as such. There are groups but all users are equivalent
Deleted User 12/16/2017 2:07 AM
@punk7890 is that persona 3?
punk7890 12/16/2017 3:09 AM
@Deleted User yeah
3:10 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/941939841834426368
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Persona 3 FES. I've added a bit about it to TCRF: https://t.co/H3BusqCDoE Anyone is free to document more of the options in these menus as there is quite a bit to cover. @CuttingRoomWiki
3:10 AM
figured I may as well start a twitter account
3:11 AM
might not get much use though
isak 12/16/2017 4:35 AM
ayy nice
punk7890 12/16/2017 4:37 AM
almost the same type of menus are in the other megami games but aren't linked up properly so I am not sure how it once worked
4:37 AM
might try those some other time and see if I can figure it out
isak 12/16/2017 4:39 AM
yeah
Deleted User 12/16/2017 12:40 PM
if im digging through dialouge files is there a chance there may be unused ones?
Luminar 12/16/2017 12:43 PM
Yes of course
Deleted User 12/16/2017 1:11 PM
hmmmmmm....scrap nodes. do not script
divingkxt 12/16/2017 5:00 PM
https://tcrf.net/Category:Commodore_64_games
Category:Commodore 64 games
5:00 PM
46 Commodore 64 games.
Meow 12/16/2017 5:11 PM
you missed one
5:11 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobby_the_Aardvark only know as I have like 50 brand new copys sitting here
Nobby the Aardvark
Nobby the Aardvark is a computer game for the Commodore 64, published in 1993 by Thalamus.
divingkxt 12/16/2017 5:18 PM
I think a big reason why C64 games aren't as common on the wiki is partially attributable to the fun of High ASCII.
5:21 PM
I don't think anyone has hacked into Nobby, honestly.
5:22 PM
Also, C64 game in 1993? And only the C64?
5:22 PM
Oh, Thalamus's last title.
5:23 PM
Hmm...
Meow 12/16/2017 5:26 PM
idk if it's even dumped, I paid £60 in 2011 for 60 copys but voer the years gave a few away or some got damaged
5:27 PM
yeah it is
Deleted User 12/16/2017 5:27 PM
Yay. My phone cracked as i was rushing to work
divingkxt 12/16/2017 5:27 PM
There is a copy online, though it seems to have been altered by some cracking group.
Meow 12/16/2017 5:27 PM
I guess if anybody needs a copy to dump I'll be happy to ship one
5:28 PM
@GameHistoryOrg you guys got a sealed copy by chance? if not I can donate one or two.
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:29 PM
Ha! Maybe we can trade, I have about 40 uncirculated copies of Blip #3 (the Marvel Comics video game magazine)
divingkxt 12/16/2017 5:29 PM
"There are potentially tunes in the previews which are not used in the final version – two examples of which I found recently with the Flying Shark demo from Commodore User magazine and also from Nobby The Aardvark from Commodore Format."
5:29 PM
https://fgasking.wordpress.com/page/5/
Frank Gasking
Meow 12/16/2017 5:30 PM
You can have a couple free, all they're doing is using space
5:30 PM
I also have new/sealed sega play controllers here. the USB saturn style ones
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:31 PM
Anyway don't worry about donating, it's a cool item but we are intentionally not taking commercial games unless they specifically are needed for preservation reasons
Meow 12/16/2017 5:31 PM
with all the preservation stuff I'm doing I lately I'm clearing out retail stuff.
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:31 PM
Haha same
Meow 12/16/2017 5:31 PM
And ah, not a problem then
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:31 PM
You get it
Meow 12/16/2017 5:31 PM
yeah
5:31 PM
I've got 5 PS3 dev kits sitting here as it is, and have 20+ more coming.
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:31 PM
Those we could use
Meow 12/16/2017 5:31 PM
And you know what those DECR 1000A's are like.. at 20KG EACH..
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:32 PM
Are those the huge ones? Like the rack mount kind?
Meow 12/16/2017 5:32 PM
If I ever get some I can clear out I'll hook you up. shipping wouuld suck from the UK though.
5:32 PM
Yup haha
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:32 PM
Oh you keep those
Meow 12/16/2017 5:32 PM
Ok
5:32 PM
I might have some spare phats coming though.
5:33 PM
The one's I have now have unreleased NFS stuff on. (edited)
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:33 PM
There's a pile of them at the dev I work at that I'm sure I could raid if I had to (edited)
Meow 12/16/2017 5:33 PM
ohh haha
5:33 PM
I'm only buying as PS3 data recoverys starting off. already found a few builds on these one's.
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:34 PM
Now that you mention it we might have some of our unreleased stuff on those, I should see
Meow 12/16/2017 5:34 PM
I can hook you up with the guide if needs be? It's hidden on my sites gold section
5:34 PM
Just know it'll take a few days per HDD at best.
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:34 PM
I'll let you know
Meow 12/16/2017 5:34 PM
ok awesome
5:35 PM
Minus BDEMU drives, those can just be cloned/recovered the main drives encrypted.
5:36 PM
360 recovery's the worst. the only tool I know that works can only save a file at a time, and you have to manually create folders too. took me 26 hours without sleep to recover two crackdown builds
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:38 PM
We might have the actually finished War of the Worlds somewhere
5:38 PM
The one that came out passed certification unexpectedly, the way I heard it
Meow 12/16/2017 5:38 PM
Wait a game based on the movie?
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:38 PM
Well based on the book
Meow 12/16/2017 5:39 PM
ahh I never heard of it minus the movie
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:39 PM
It was a Flashback-style slow platformer with rotoscoped actors
5:39 PM
You never heard of the radio broadcast from the 30s??
Meow 12/16/2017 5:39 PM
Heard of the broadcast yeah, but not the game haha.
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:40 PM
Oh, got it
5:40 PM
Anyway yeah the game passed certification so they released it and threw out the rest of the work done after submission, I think it was mostly tuning
Meow 12/16/2017 5:41 PM
That's weird. I've seen a few games that have had work done after release though.
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:41 PM
It's really not that weird, you usually expect that MS is going to fail something on first sub so you keep messing with it
Meow 12/16/2017 5:42 PM
Well it is Microsoft after all ~Cough~ windows 10.
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:42 PM
So when they say you passed you have to decide, okay, is it good enough, or do we burn more money fixing something g that's not actually broken and risk failing another submission
Meow 12/16/2017 5:43 PM
Yeah, haha. it's a tough one. One of the batches of PS3 kits are QA kits funny enough.
5:44 PM
Also getting a faulty Sqaure Enix 1000A, only cost me £10 shipped. couldn't say no to that price.
GameHistoryOrg 12/16/2017 5:45 PM
Nice
Meow 12/16/2017 5:45 PM
no idea of contents or if it can be repaired enough to do recovery.
divingkxt 12/16/2017 5:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ieIGr2COo Oooh.
einokeino303
Altered Beast (c64) longplay
Meow 12/16/2017 5:46 PM
Recovery's a pain, you have to clone the HDD untouched, then rebug/cfw the kit, extract the EID/encryption key then restore the HDD and then decrypt it and scan for content.
5:47 PM
And that's only for 1000A's/A00A's/A00J's, Slims or 1400A's need the firmware restoring too as another step it's a nightmare. but worth it in the end
5:47 PM
brb, making dinner, at 10:47pm :\
divingkxt 12/16/2017 5:48 PM
"For some reason there was no ingame music even though SID-file has it so I put Walkers songs here manually on top of the SFX."
Borman 12/16/2017 5:56 PM
Why are you cloning the hdd and restoring it? Work from an image
5:57 PM
The tools let you make am unencrypted image and explore that directly
Meow 12/16/2017 6:01 PM
As I want the kits original @Borman CFW modifys data/overwrites and makes it harder to restore, plus you need to decrypt the HDD from the drive itself so it has to be original without the EID key which you can only get via CFW you can't decrypt.
6:01 PM
And slim's you have to restore the original firmware on due to NOR memory otherwise it'll ask you to format the HDD
Borman 12/16/2017 6:02 PM
Right, but dump disk to the Pc as stock and get the eid after works on most things anyway. You don't need to decrypt from the drive, you can decrypt the raw image
6:03 PM
I've been able to access my stuff no problem that way
Meow 12/16/2017 6:03 PM
I tried from image but it never detects.
Borman 12/16/2017 6:04 PM
Dump using any raw dumping tool, put back in ps3, get eid, use key on image
6:04 PM
Odd, had no problem with both of mine
Meow 12/16/2017 6:04 PM
idk the tool never worked for me. so I just do it this way, it's the way the others have been doing it on OG
Borman 12/16/2017 6:05 PM
Just seems like a lot of extra work hah
Meow 12/16/2017 6:05 PM
yeah it's a nightmare.
6:05 PM
I need to build a PC that's newer then the 2008 one I'm using currently
Borman 12/16/2017 6:05 PM
No wonder why you stress about the process hah
Meow 12/16/2017 6:05 PM
I stress just living so don't worry
6:06 PM
FYI: it's 4/12 on those kits now. (4 being found out of 12 ) (edited)
Borman 12/16/2017 6:06 PM
I did my dumps using my 2008 Mac pro and my old dell, did the trick
6:06 PM
Nice
Meow 12/16/2017 6:06 PM
I have 2 here, 1's with another person and the 4th is being held for me
Borman 12/16/2017 6:07 PM
Spend some time getting the tools to work to save yourself a bunch of time hah
Meow 12/16/2017 6:07 PM
Same person found a 1000A that's MINT still has new stickers on it. (and NFS Rivals alpha builds )
6:09 PM
Some time next year they'll be shipped here, so gonna be a long year. I've already filled 2 5TB drives with data.
6:09 PM
And there's like 20TB of HDD's coming
Borman 12/16/2017 6:10 PM
Sounds like a good time
Meow 12/16/2017 6:10 PM
good time? it's a damn nightmare.
6:12 PM
I've got to clear out 15 years woorth of junk from a spare room, clean it, carpet it, then move all dev stuff in. on top I have to clear my place top to bottom as I'm rescuing a cat "stealing" that's being abused, so I need to remove anything that's poisonous which is pretty might my whole place due to plants.
6:13 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/313289242786660364/390933737141174283/image.jpg @Borman see what I mean
6:13 PM
There's a table behind that view with another 15 odd cacti on I think I've got too many.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/16/2017 6:15 PM
why do you have so many
Meow 12/16/2017 6:16 PM
idk just love cacti / plants but now I'm saving a cat I have to sort out whats being kept or moved out of the cats way
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/16/2017 6:16 PM
6:16 PM
catci
Meow 12/16/2017 6:17 PM
Yeah idk they're a nightmare to live with. and some are deadly to cats/humans so being voer safe.
6:17 PM
over*
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/16/2017 6:18 PM
pls dont die
punk7890 12/16/2017 6:18 PM
Meow 12/16/2017 6:19 PM
I wont, I tend not to nibble on cacti or phallus shaped objects
divingkxt 12/16/2017 6:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybZHCr7Dawg
Razorblade1812
PS2 - Shadow Man: 2econd Coming - Unused Bad Ending Sound Clip SPOILERS!
6:29 PM
Not on the wiki yet, but damn.
Meow 12/16/2017 6:35 PM
Ghost Rider PS2 has some leftover PSP levels if I remember correct, I know the dev builds I released could play PSP levels on PS2, Borman explained why and it was due to climax not having enough PSP dev kits
Video 12/16/2017 11:24 PM
currently building a ROBLOX version collection and once it's done, the game's page will recieve mass amounts of removed content and version differences
11:24 PM
because 6 years of ROBLOX versions is bound to have some removed content
divingkxt 12/16/2017 11:25 PM
Damn.
leilei 12/16/2017 11:27 PM
6 years of bootleg lego minifigs
Video 12/16/2017 11:27 PM
like I figured out that ROBLOX has been storing ROBLOX versions that go back to 2009.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/16/2017 11:36 PM
what if i told u this was roblox
leilei 12/16/2017 11:37 PM
then i'd groan at the copyright infringement and profitting off to make that available
divingkxt 12/16/2017 11:37 PM
Almost wouldn't notice.
11:38 PM
Trust me, there was someone on the forums who wanted to make a Disney World of Cars remake. (edited)
11:38 PM
In Roblox.
11:38 PM
*World of Cars
Revenant 12/16/2017 11:38 PM
oh god are you talking about Premium Radiatordriver or whatever that guy's name was
divingkxt 12/16/2017 11:39 PM
YES. http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=16829
Revenant 12/16/2017 11:39 PM
haha i had completely forgotten about that
11:39 PM
weird times
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/16/2017 11:39 PM
https://youtu.be/oDERym21xNE its seriously amazing what this guy made
Swishy Bros
Spongebob Squarepants Battle For Binki Bottom (Roblox) #2 - JellyFish Fields/Down Town Binki Bottom
divingkxt 12/16/2017 11:40 PM
That's actually somewhat impressive.
11:41 PM
Battle for Bikini Bottom also got ripped open pretty fast.
Video 12/16/2017 11:41 PM
"roblox is of superior to engines of the minecraft, do not of disrespect the best of games"
11:41 PM
"do not of disrespect the best of games" (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/16/2017 11:42 PM
Here's a better quality video https://twitter.com/awesxome3/status/924847893684424706?s=09
awesomeawesxomeman (@awesxome3)
#ROBLOX #ROBLOXDev new animations and a WIP camera for #ROBLOXBFBB https://t.co/nGkXdKUcHP
Likes
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Revenant 12/16/2017 11:42 PM
it was the best of games, it was the worst of games
Video 12/16/2017 11:42 PM
community: shit engine: shit moderation: shit
11:43 PM
graphics: ehh
11:43 PM
sound: fucking terrible
11:44 PM
that's modern roblox
leilei 12/16/2017 11:47 PM
all i really know of it is that it's a poor man's blockland with poor man's games with bad imitation legos
11:48 PM
and the original creator also happened to create a now very obscure shareware artillery game a decade earlier that no one bothered to preserve
divingkxt 12/16/2017 11:49 PM
That wasn't Scorched Earth
leilei 12/16/2017 11:50 PM
it was xenon
11:50 PM
and all you'll find by that name is the shmup
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/16/2017 11:51 PM
People have managed to extract + rebuild the hip/hop files of BFBB but there's one major issue
divingkxt 12/16/2017 11:51 PM
No one seems to know he's made that game.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/16/2017 11:51 PM
The extracted + rebuilt file must be the exact same size as the original
divingkxt 12/16/2017 11:52 PM
Pretty much everyone knows him from Roblox.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/16/2017 11:52 PM
So it can't be bigger or smaller
divingkxt 12/16/2017 11:52 PM
Erik Cassel or David Baszucki?
11:53 PM
Because that's some Lost Media Wiki material there.
leilei 12/16/2017 11:53 PM
Morgan McGuire
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/16/2017 11:53 PM
erik cassel passed away a couple of years ago sadly :/ (edited)
divingkxt 12/16/2017 11:59 PM
Yeah, I've managed to preserve a surprising amount of Mac games, mostly by sheer luck.
leilei 12/17/2017 12:18 AM
i'm sad no one's really bothering with screesnavers and desktop theme preservation
12:18 AM
due to the whole corporate take-over of relevant theme/saver sites in early 00s for marketing spyware vectors giving them a stigma (edited)
divingkxt 12/17/2017 12:18 AM
Yeah, too many scummy screensaver sites with malware in them.
12:19 AM
Which is why I stopped using screensavers altogether and just turn my screen off.
leilei 12/17/2017 12:19 AM
like all those desktop theme sites turned ezthemes affiliates, locking all downloads through a promo downloader app (edited)
12:21 AM
themeworld is a corporate buyout of an australian theme ftp directory, with many many many themes removed since and a very antileeching system
12:23 AM
and then there's the skin apps of the early 00's. wincustomize used to be community-driven, until stardock ate them and deleted all-non-stardock-product themes
divingkxt 12/17/2017 12:24 AM
Ew.
12:24 AM
Kaleidoscope has a bunch of themes,
12:24 AM
but many of them are badly preserved.
12:24 AM
Customization stuff in general stopped being a thing around the time Vista hit shelves, but it was already dying then.
leilei 12/17/2017 12:24 AM
no one's preserved neoplanet skins either
divingkxt 12/17/2017 12:25 AM
I never used Windows much until XP.
leilei 12/17/2017 12:28 AM
i have a soft spot for amateur desktop themes
12:29 AM
my favorite is this very rare '97 ff6 theme
12:31 AM
the shutdown sound is a long, low quality recording of the phantom train arriving (edited)
12:32 AM
pre-emulation etc
12:32 AM
no ripped sprites anywhere either
12:32 AM
the busy cursor's animated and turns into an imp
12:33 AM
so on shutdown you get to watch that for a while
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 12:34 AM
that is really adorable
12:35 AM
i recall having some spyro 3-themed icons and wallpapers as a child but i don't think there was a proper cohesive theme for them at all, let alone sound effects
Revo 12/17/2017 12:36 AM
hi guys
12:36 AM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 12:36 AM
hello
Revo 12/17/2017 12:36 AM
I don't suppose you've heard of the recent ongoing GBA decompilation projects known as pokeruby and pokeemerald?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 12:37 AM
never really followed the pokemon series that closely :P
Revo 12/17/2017 12:37 AM
oh man, you guys are in for a treat if you havent heard
12:38 AM
about 1-2 years ago, someone by the handle of YamaArashi figured out the correct GBA compiler for one of the pokemon games: the compiler being a flavor of gcc (and under GPL because of that) in the SDK known as arm-000512
12:38 AM
the compiler for the gen 3 Pokemon games is gcc
12:39 AM
because of this discovery and much trial and error, we figured out how to brute force matching C code that compiles bit perfectly into the ROM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 12:39 AM
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 12:39 AM
damn son
Revo 12/17/2017 12:39 AM
yes.
12:39 AM
it depends on the game, though...
12:39 AM
-O3 games are certainly off limits
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 12:39 AM
i recall hearing that japanese fire emblem gba modders have either done the same thing or just got the straight-up source code somehow
12:39 AM
but i've never seen much followup on that and english modders sure as shit don't have that tech
Revo 12/17/2017 12:39 AM
We've been working on decompiling Ruby/Sapphire (to match!) for the last 1-2 years
12:39 AM
it is currently 75% decompiled
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 12:40 AM
damn son
Revo 12/17/2017 12:40 AM
75% of its assembly now resides in the src/ folder as .c code
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 12:40 AM
now if only we could decompile the ratchet and clank games
12:40 AM
or extract the wad files...
Revo 12/17/2017 12:40 AM
ah, decomp to match is a very edge case for dissassembly, unfortunately...
12:41 AM
it only works if the game in question was compiled, and if the compiler is known, and if the assembly is reasonably guessable, and if you have the patience and tools to guess
12:41 AM
Ruby/Sapphire has about 11,000 functions
12:41 AM
Emerald has around 15,000
12:41 AM
Decomp's saving grace is that, well, let me put it bluntly
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 12:41 AM
>functions
Revo 12/17/2017 12:41 AM
old gcc is stupid.
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 12:41 AM
is that what they're calling the monsters these days (edited)
Revo 12/17/2017 12:41 AM
The C is mostly fairly guessable, for at least getting close
12:41 AM
once asm is close, we usually fiddle until it matches
12:42 AM
behavior is usually predictable
12:42 AM
functions are standalone and tend to not affect each other
12:42 AM
so we can basically cut out each and match 1 at a time
12:42 AM
then move on
12:42 AM
as we decompile, we define the headers we think make sense for keeping the disms organized
12:42 AM
pokeruby, even after 2 years of work, is still a mess.
12:43 AM
and theres a lot of questionable code
12:43 AM
a palmful of fakematchings and nonmatchings
12:43 AM
where we either use hacks to match
12:43 AM
or just indent the original asm below and show "functionally equivalent, but close" C above
12:43 AM
less than 2% of functions are nonmatching/fakematching
12:43 AM
mostly because of either strange edge case compiler behavior we dont yet understand
12:44 AM
or very complex math
12:44 AM
or both
12:44 AM
or weird temp reuse
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 12:44 AM
damn
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 12:44 AM
Revo 12/17/2017 12:44 AM
we've had lots and lots of success, though
12:44 AM
we did match the largest function in all of R/S/E/FR/LG
12:44 AM
which is AbilityBattleEffects
12:44 AM
a 700 line C function
12:44 AM
we have a matching version of it with 0 hacks
12:45 AM
it used to be nonmatching, where it matched except for register use
12:45 AM
(provably functionally equivalent)
12:45 AM
but recently someone figured out the issue
12:45 AM
temporary variable reuse was incorrect
12:45 AM
once it was fixed it matched the ROM
12:48 AM
since Pokemon was compiled using O2 we basically determined the assembly blob was a daisy chained series of compiled file objects
12:48 AM
so we started splitting it up again based on where we thought file boundries were
12:48 AM
and rodata clues
12:49 AM
for example, we found the series of functions cooresponding to Ruby/Sapphire's unused Sound Check Menu
12:49 AM
this was split out as `sound_check_menu.s`
12:49 AM
and then decompiled into the .c file
12:49 AM
one such function from the file:
12:49 AM
`void Task_InitSoundCheckMenu(u8 taskId) { u8 soundcheckStr[] = _("サウンドチェック"); u8 bgmStr[] = _("BGM"); u8 seStr[] = _("SE "); u8 abDescStr[] = _("A‥さいせい　B‥おわり"); u8 upDownStr[] = _("L‥UP R‥DOWN"); u8 driverStr[] = _("R‥DRIVER-TEST"); if (!gPaletteFade.active) { MenuDrawTextWindow(2, 0, 27, 3); MenuDrawTextWindow(2, 5, 27, 10); MenuDrawTextWindow(2, 12, 27, 17); MenuPrint(soundcheckStr, 4, 1); MenuPrint(abDescStr, 14, 1); MenuPrint(bgmStr, 4, 6); MenuPrint(upDownStr, 14, 6); MenuPrint(seStr, 4, 13); MenuPrint(upDownStr, 14, 13); MenuPrint(driverStr, 14, 18); gTasks[taskId].func = sub_80BA384; REG_WIN0H = WIN_RANGE(17, 223); REG_WIN0V = WIN_RANGE(1, 31); } }`
divingkxt 12/17/2017 12:50 AM
Oh dang, that's actually really close.
Revo 12/17/2017 12:50 AM
it compiles into the exact same asm
12:50 AM
it should be close
12:50 AM
divingkxt 12/17/2017 12:50 AM
Then again, Ruby and Sapphire is where Game Freak actually started to get better at coding.
Revo 12/17/2017 12:51 AM
Ruby/Sapphire had to have GF learn how to write C: toolchain programmers before knew C, but the rest of the programmers had to either learn or start writing it more
12:51 AM
r/s however was a terrible rewrite, because Emerald & Fr/LG have different engine stuff
12:51 AM
indicating a 2nd rewrite
12:51 AM
mainly the menu and window system
12:51 AM
it was rewritten twice in gen 3
12:53 AM
here's another matching function from the save menu utility file
12:53 AM
`u8 GetBadgeCount(void) { u8 badgeCount = 0; int badgeFlag; for (badgeFlag = BADGE01_GET; badgeFlag <= BADGE08_GET; badgeFlag++) if (FlagGet(badgeFlag)) badgeCount++; return badgeCount; }`
12:53 AM
another obvious one
12:54 AM
keep in mind, the games were written in C90
12:54 AM
aka ISO C
divingkxt 12/17/2017 12:54 AM
Ah...
Revo 12/17/2017 12:54 AM
so no fancy stuff like `for(int i`
12:54 AM
cant do that
divingkxt 12/17/2017 12:54 AM
for memory constraints. So, R&S is not that well-coded either.
12:54 AM
Game Freak are clearly not coders.
12:55 AM
Same could be argued for a good chunk of Nintendo, honestly.
Revo 12/17/2017 12:55 AM
r/s has a huge problem when it comes to later games.
12:55 AM
RAM is divided up into EWRAM and IWRAM, or external WRAM and internal
12:55 AM
for ruby/sapphire, im not sure why, but game freak seems to have manually specified every address/location in the lower EWRAM area (we designated it as shared EWRAM)
12:56 AM
in FR/LG and Emerald game freak switched to using malloc
12:56 AM
which is much easier to get matching asm for
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 12:56 AM
so basically you got gamefreaked
12:56 AM
my condolences
Revo 12/17/2017 12:56 AM
yes, ruby/sapph is god awful in allocation
12:56 AM
its either an overlay, or a very large union
12:56 AM
`#ifndef GUARD_EWRAM_H #define GUARD_EWRAM_H extern u8 gSharedMem[]; #define ewram_addr 0x02000000 // used in gSharedMem addr hacks // Note: we have duplicate ewram labels because its clear some memory // regions overlap others but have different definitions. Until some // dupes can be determined to be the same, they will be deliberate // seperated. #define eWeatherPaletteData (*(struct WeatherPaletteData *)gSharedMem) #define BATTLE_STRUCT ((struct BattleStruct *) (gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define ewram0_2 (*(struct Struct2000000 *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define namingScreenData (*(struct NamingScreenData *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define ewramBerryPic (gSharedMem + 0x0) #define ewram0_3 (*(struct UnknownStruct3 *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define ewram0_4 (*(struct Unk2000000 *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define ewram0_5 (*(struct UnkStruct *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define eMatsudaDebugVar (gSharedMem[0x0]) #define eBrendanSprite (gSharedMem + 0x0) #define ewram0_6 (u32)(&gSharedMem[0]) #define ewram0_7 (&gSharedMem[0]) #define eSaveSection (struct SaveSection *)(gSharedMem + 0x0) #define ewram0arr ((u8 (*)[32])gSharedMem) ...`
12:57 AM
a segment from our file
12:57 AM
yes. we need all this to match the ROM
divingkxt 12/17/2017 12:57 AM
I'll say the former, seeing as that is the most old-schooly way a lot of programmers had to allocate memory.
12:57 AM
I know this from hacking into DOS games like Metal Gear.
Revo 12/17/2017 12:57 AM
i am guessing GF got tired of manual alloc
12:57 AM
and just used malloc
12:57 AM
FR/LG and Emerald use malloc for this area space
12:57 AM
as a heap
12:58 AM
those games are less understood. Emerald's progress is only about 35%
12:58 AM
in terms of decompile
12:58 AM
you'll forgive the sloppy labels, because we usually leave unknowns in until we know for certain what it is
12:58 AM
decomp is ugly like that
1:00 AM
manual declaration seems to be likely for R/S. probably a habit from Game Freak using wram.asm
1:00 AM
and same to declare memory
divingkxt 12/17/2017 1:00 AM
Yeah, and being so used to Z80 ASM.
Revo 12/17/2017 1:00 AM
old habits die hard, because they did switch to malloc eventually
1:01 AM
like i said, they probably got tired of it
1:01 AM
but anyway
1:01 AM
in matching code, we have seen very... strange stuff
1:01 AM
valid C, but strange C needed to match
1:02 AM
the code in question is a function from `player_pc.c`
1:02 AM
before i show what ridiculous C was needed to match, here's the end of the function in thumb
1:03 AM
`... .L249: ldr r0, .L256 lsl r1, r5, #0x2 add r1, r1, r0 mov r2, #0x93 lsl r2, r2, #0x3 add r1, r1, r2 ldrh r0, [r1] bl ItemStorage_PrintItemPcResponse .L248: mov r0, #0x10 ldrsh r1, [r4, r0] mov r2, #0x2 ldrsh r0, [r4, r2] sub r0, r1, r0 .L246: pop {r4, r5} pop {r0} bx r0 .L257: .align 2, 0 .L256: .word gSaveBlock1 .Lfe33: .size ItemStorage_DoItemSwap,.Lfe33-ItemStorage_DoItemSwap .align 2, 0`
1:03 AM
look at L248
1:03 AM
and tell me whats wrong
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:04 AM
alas i'm looking at it and can't even understand it enough to try and make a dumb joke
Revo 12/17/2017 1:04 AM
`.L248: mov r0, #0x10 ldrsh r1, [r4, r0] mov r2, #0x2 ldrsh r0, [r4, r2] sub r0, r1, r0 .L246: pop {r4, r5} pop {r0} bx r0`
1:04 AM
times up: this is 100% dead code
1:05 AM
a result is calculated from r4 + 0x10 minus r4 + 0x2
1:05 AM
put into r0
1:05 AM
...then not used
1:05 AM
because it returns
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:05 AM
o ok
Revo 12/17/2017 1:05 AM
this is dead code
1:05 AM
and the compiler somehow generated it.
1:05 AM
oh boy, this one was... fun to figure out
1:05 AM
but we did figure it out, I think.
1:05 AM
it doesnt use `asm("")` hacks to do so, but its weird.
1:06 AM
anyway, here's the matching function
1:06 AM
`static void ItemStorage_DoItemSwap(u8 taskId, bool8 switchModeDisabled) { s16 *data = TASK.data; u8 trueIndex = ITEMS_ABOVE_TOP + PAGE_INDEX; SWITCH_MODE_ACTIVE = FALSE; if((u8)NUM_ITEMS > trueIndex && (u8)SWAP_ITEM_INDEX != trueIndex && switchModeDisabled == FALSE) { struct ItemSlot itemSlot = gSaveBlock1.pcItems[SWAP_ITEM_INDEX]; // backup the itemSlot before swapping the two. gSaveBlock1.pcItems[SWAP_ITEM_INDEX] = gSaveBlock1.pcItems[trueIndex]; gSaveBlock1.pcItems[trueIndex] = itemSlot; return; } else if(trueIndex == NUM_ITEMS) { ItemStorage_PrintItemPcResponse(ITEMPC_GO_BACK_TO_PREV); } else { ItemStorage_PrintItemPcResponse(gSaveBlock1.pcItems[trueIndex].itemId); } /* THEORY: This check produces essentially dead code, but it might have been working in an earlier build in which case it allows a programmer to easily duplicate items without the use of a debug menu. This gets the page index of the swap index for some reason. It is currently unknown what it would have been used for, but perhaps it was used to increase the quantity of the item without a debug menu. With the removal of a lot of the debug menus close to release, a programmer may have added this to help test things with a low key (such as planting a lot of duplicated berries, which requires this lazy "cheat") without bringing the relevent debug menus back. The commented out line is intentionally left in below to show what it may have looked like. */ if(SWAP_ITEM_INDEX - ITEMS_ABOVE_TOP <= 0) { // this check is arbitrary and used to generate the correct assembly using the subtraction, which is what matters. the 0 check doesn't. //gSaveBlock1.pcItems[SWAP_ITEM_INDEX].quantity += 100; gSaveBlock1.pcItems[SWAP_ITEM_INDEX].quantity += 0; // do not enforce item cap. } }`
1:06 AM
theory is that a programmer forgot an ifdef DEBUG
1:07 AM
`// local task defines #define PAGE_INDEX data[0] #define ITEMS_ABOVE_TOP data[1] #define NUM_ITEMS data[2] #define NUM_QUANTITY_ROLLER data[3] #define NUM_PAGE_ITEMS data[4] // not used #define CURRENT_ITEM_STORAGE_MENU data[6] // not used #define SWAP_ITEM_INDEX data[8] #define SWITCH_MODE_ACTIVE data[9]`
1:08 AM
we did say it was strange. the `+= 0` is needed.
1:08 AM
gcc does optimizations in passes it seems, or at least old gcc did
1:08 AM
so we tricked it by removing the += 0, but it left the check in
1:08 AM
the subtraction
1:09 AM
theres more strange C to match code where that came from, too
1:09 AM
old gcc is strange (and dumb)
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:10 AM
i can only imagine
Revo 12/17/2017 1:10 AM
for example
1:10 AM
a macro from the battle AI command system
1:10 AM
`static void BattleAICmd_if_status_in_party(void) { struct Pokemon *party; struct Pokemon *partyPtr; int i; u32 statusToCompareTo; // for whatever reason, game freak put the party pointer into 2 variables instead of 1. it's possible at some point the switch encompassed the whole function and used each respective variable creating largely duplicate code. switch (gAIScriptPtr[1]) { case 1: party = partyPtr = gEnemyParty; break; default: party = partyPtr = gPlayerParty; break; } statusToCompareTo = T1_READ_32(gAIScriptPtr + 2); for (i = 0; i < 6; i++) { u16 species = GetMonData(&party[i], MON_DATA_SPECIES); u16 hp = GetMonData(&party[i], MON_DATA_HP); u32 status = GetMonData(&party[i], MON_DATA_STATUS); if (species != SPECIES_NONE && species != SPECIES_EGG && hp != 0 && status == statusToCompareTo) { gAIScriptPtr = T1_READ_PTR(gAIScriptPtr + 6); // WHAT. why is this being merged into the above switch return; } } gAIScriptPtr += 10; }`
1:11 AM
the assembly for that gAIScriptPtr return is moved into the above switch
1:11 AM
we're not sure why
1:11 AM
(reminder: this produces a matching ROM)
1:12 AM
and in addition there seems to be a double ptr allocation at the beginning
1:12 AM
it might be written differently and still match, don't know
1:12 AM
but ive tried lots and lots and lots of things
ShinyQuagsire 12/17/2017 1:16 AM
Revo 12/17/2017 1:16 AM
hi shiny
1:17 AM
also, that R/S TCRF page is severely, severely outdated
1:17 AM
ill show a few unused stuff we found
1:17 AM
which is not on the page
1:17 AM
8D019E4 in Ruby 1.0 US
divingkxt 12/17/2017 1:18 AM
That's some early G/S assets all right.
Revo 12/17/2017 1:18 AM
it's in the r/s rom for some reason
1:18 AM
why? dunno
1:18 AM
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:18 AM
a nice simple placeholder while still hashing out the finer points of how the interface will work?
1:18 AM
worry about fancier fonts later while you map out the basics?
Revo 12/17/2017 1:18 AM
test menuing placeholder gfx at best
1:19 AM
this was probably one of the very very very first files added to AGBPokemon
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:19 AM
i take it there's no real way of confirming?
Revo 12/17/2017 1:19 AM
stuff like "This is a menu test." kind of builds
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:19 AM
no surviving metadada or anything?
Revo 12/17/2017 1:19 AM
disposable code
1:19 AM
well
1:19 AM
it's at the beginning of `graphics.s`
1:19 AM
which was probably added in order of development
1:19 AM
or closely, anyway
1:20 AM
well, close to the beginning anyway..
1:20 AM
`@ This is where most of the graphics is stored. .section gfx_data, "aw", %progbits .align 2 gUnknown_08D00000:: @ 8D00000 .incbin "graphics/interface/menu.4bpp.lz" @ menu window and arrows .align 2 gUnknown_08D004E0:: @ 8D004E0 .incbin "graphics/interface/menu.gbapal.lz" .align 2 gUnknown_08D00524:: @ 8D00524 .incbin "graphics/interface/menu_map.bin" @ 8D01524 .include "data/graphics/pokemon/circled_question_mark_graphics.inc" @ 8D019E4 .incbin "graphics/unused/old_charmap.4bpp.lz" @ japanese table and bunch of stuff .incbin "graphics/unused/old_charmap.bin.lz" .incbin "graphics/unused/old_charmap.gbapal.lz" .align 2 gSmokescreenImpactTiles:: @ 8D02410 .incbin "graphics/battle_anims/sprites/smokescreen_impact.4bpp.lz"`
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:20 AM
ooh that makes sense
Revo 12/17/2017 1:21 AM
drew some menu gfx, couldnt get it working in pre-development
1:21 AM
went back to basics
1:21 AM
loaded old G/S menu gfx
1:21 AM
got that working
1:21 AM
switched over
1:21 AM
in pre-development game dev phase you mess with assets and figure out what you want to do
1:21 AM
so developed some test battle menu gfx
1:21 AM
1:21 AM
1:21 AM
1:22 AM
part of pre-development
1:22 AM
during pre-dev the AGB specs werent finalized
1:22 AM
so game freak did NOT know if gen 2 link was possible.
1:22 AM
hence the assumption it might be
1:22 AM
in the unused texts
1:22 AM
remember, gen 3 pre-dev most likely began close to the end of gen 2.
1:23 AM
by a smaller team
1:23 AM
a smaller team messing with the AGB kit they got
1:23 AM
from Nintendo Dev
1:23 AM
what I can summarize is that at some point they did get the final specs
1:23 AM
and it probably sunk in then that linking was impossible.
1:24 AM
>cue scene of the entire office of Game Freak being on fire
1:24 AM
level of panic
1:24 AM
oh, the other unused stuff
1:24 AM
now, this other unused stuff we cant blame TCRF for not seeing
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:24 AM
ooh?
Revo 12/17/2017 1:24 AM
because its unused code indicating new features
1:24 AM
unused features
1:25 AM
unused code which we decompiled to figure out what it is
1:25 AM
first off, an unused feature from the region_map file
1:25 AM
which draws the "town map" area
1:25 AM
whether via Pokenav or Town Map in FR/LG
1:26 AM
well, actually, its not an unused function
1:26 AM
but an unused parameter.
1:26 AM
so it was even harder to spot
1:27 AM
when decompiled, and when we started changing it, here's what it actually does:
1:27 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306193495234707456/336036194389458944/pokeruby_map.png map rotation!
1:27 AM
said parameter is always `0`
divingkxt 12/17/2017 1:27 AM
It's so strange.
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:27 AM
i mean i can defintiely see why they abandoned that
Revo 12/17/2017 1:27 AM
in the main games
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:27 AM
but even so
Revo 12/17/2017 1:27 AM
so this feature is unused
1:27 AM
so its obviously `angle`
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:27 AM
that is really neat
Revo 12/17/2017 1:27 AM
but still
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:28 AM
and remarkably clean-looking for a gba rotation job actually
Revo 12/17/2017 1:28 AM
yeah, it would have been at best a weird map gimmick
eientei 12/17/2017 1:28 AM
Oh hey @Revo
Revo 12/17/2017 1:28 AM
or perhaps used in a sequence where it zoomed out, rotated, and showed a 2nd region
1:28 AM
or something.
1:28 AM
we can only speculate.
1:28 AM
there's no code but this
1:29 AM
anyway, thats not all there is
1:29 AM
there is an unused, very very telling function in the battle_util file
1:29 AM
which would have changed how double battles were competitively
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:29 AM
:O?
Revo 12/17/2017 1:29 AM
yeah, and this so far is or would be the most interesting one
1:29 AM
by far
1:30 AM
`struct CombinedMove { u16 move1; u16 move2; u16 newMove; }; static const struct CombinedMove sCombinedMoves[2] = { {MOVE_EMBER, MOVE_GUST, MOVE_HEAT_WAVE}, {0xFFFF, 0xFFFF, 0xFFFF} }; void unref_sub_801B40C(void) { int i = 0; if (gBattleTypeFlags & BATTLE_TYPE_DOUBLE) { do { u8 bank = 0; do { u8 absent = gAbsentBankFlags; if (gBitTable[bank] & absent || absent & gBitTable[bank + 2]) bank++; else { if (sCombinedMoves[i].move1 == gChosenMovesByBanks[bank] && sCombinedMoves[i].move2 == gChosenMovesByBanks[bank + 2]) { gSideTimer[GetBankIdentity(bank) & 1].field3 = (bank) | ((bank + 2) << 4); gSideTimer[GetBankIdentity(bank) & 1].field4 = sCombinedMoves[i].newMove; gSideAffecting[GetBankIdentity(bank) & 1] |= SIDE_STATUS_X4; } if (sCombinedMoves[i].move1 == gChosenMovesByBanks[bank + 2] && sCombinedMoves[i].move2 == gChosenMovesByBanks[bank]) { gSideTimer[GetBankIdentity(bank) & 1].field3 = (bank + 2) | ((bank) << 4); gSideTimer[GetBankIdentity(bank) & 1].field4 = sCombinedMoves[i].newMove; gSideAffecting[GetBankIdentity(bank) & 1] |= SIDE_STATUS_X4; } bank++; } } while (bank < 2); i++; } while (sCombinedMoves[i].move1 != 0xFFFF); } }` you would have been able to "combine" moves like gen 5 pledges in double battles.
1:30 AM
this function is not in FR/LG or Emerald. it is only in R/S, and its unused.
1:31 AM
`801B40C` in Ruby 1.0 US.
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:31 AM
probably for the best that it went unused, i'd wager it would've gone as thoroughly underutilised as the pledges
1:31 AM
the Game Freak Special, basically
Revo 12/17/2017 1:31 AM
most likely they put this idea on the back burner for later games
1:31 AM
and it later came back as pledges in gen 5
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:31 AM
stands to reason too
1:31 AM
don't want to overwhelm people too much
Revo 12/17/2017 1:32 AM
the fact it uses a struct is very telling to the scale they wanted this to be on
1:32 AM
it would have been probably too much of a game changer for Pokemon
1:33 AM
btw
1:33 AM
`const u8 BattleText_WindHeatWave[] = _("The wind turned into a\nHEAT WAVE!");`
1:33 AM
it shows what this was for
1:33 AM
this unused text was a bit of a mystery
1:33 AM
but now we know it was used for that
1:33 AM
i would have linked the strings to the struct as well, and defined each result
1:33 AM
But think of stuff like:
1:34 AM
Tackle + Spark = Volt Tackle
1:34 AM
stuff like that.
divingkxt 12/17/2017 1:35 AM
Would have definitely been a real game changer.
Revo 12/17/2017 1:35 AM
hacks can still use this functionality
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:35 AM
ooh!
Revo 12/17/2017 1:35 AM
i would like to see one that fleshes it out
1:37 AM
by the way
1:37 AM
i havent even gotten started on just how stupid gcc is
1:37 AM
1:37 AM
gcc 2.95, to be specific
1:37 AM
since arm-000512 is a variant of that specific version
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:37 AM
oh, hello @Revo
Revo 12/17/2017 1:38 AM
we may be able to match large functions on occasion, but even the smaller, more complex functions just completely and utterly stump us.
1:38 AM
i have a list of these, but nonmatchings can be hard.. up until we figure out some (edited)
1:38 AM
and sometimes it turns out to be for a completely STUPID reason.
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:38 AM
... where do the symbol names come from?
Revo 12/17/2017 1:38 AM
symbol names?
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:39 AM
as in, you're apparently decompiling to stuff that actually has legible variable names
Revo 12/17/2017 1:39 AM
like gMoves? we usually assign these based on what we understand their functionality to be
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:39 AM
ah ok so it's just manual then
Revo 12/17/2017 1:39 AM
variables and comments are manual
1:39 AM
but the code itself compiles into matching
1:39 AM
based on use/control flow
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:39 AM
I've done this sort of thing before... it seems rather tedious x.x
Revo 12/17/2017 1:40 AM
we're doing large scale decomp on the pokemon games
1:40 AM
to aim for a complete C base
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:40 AM
figures :)
1:40 AM
I've always been impressed by the sheer apparent size of the pkmn romhacking community
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:41 AM
i remember playing with PokeRuby when it first started
Revo 12/17/2017 1:41 AM
pokeruby has come extremely far since then
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:41 AM
it's really nice to finally have a "source" to work with
Revo 12/17/2017 1:41 AM
no more baserom dependency
1:41 AM
and its 75% complete
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:41 AM
oh, that's finally dropped? nice
Revo 12/17/2017 1:41 AM
yeah we got rid of baserom months ago
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:41 AM
i think i still have devkitpro installed so
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:41 AM
I used to go to rhdn and it basically just felt like it was pkmn, snes super mario, and then everything else
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:41 AM
i've dabbed in Gen 4 hacking
1:42 AM
but lately I've been shifting my attention to Gen 2 and the Mobile Adapter specifically
1:42 AM
been wanting to try emulating it via hardware
Revo 12/17/2017 1:42 AM
anyway
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:42 AM
pokecrystal has helped a lot with that on GCF
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:42 AM
ooh
Revo 12/17/2017 1:42 AM
first, the "fakematching" function
1:42 AM
before I learned how to fix it
1:42 AM
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 1:42 AM
always very partial to efforts to resurrect dead addons
1:43 AM
rly big fan of the work being done for the satellaview
Revo 12/17/2017 1:43 AM
`static void PrintFlyTargetName(void) { if (ewram0_3.regionMap.unk16 == 2 || ewram0_3.regionMap.unk16 == 4) { u16 i = 0; int zero; for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_COUNT(sUnknown_083E79C0); i++) { const struct UnknownStruct4 *r4 = &sUnknown_083E79C0[i]; if (ewram0_3.regionMap.mapSectionId == r4->mapSectionId) { if (FlagGet(r4->flag)) { MenuDrawTextWindow(16, 14, 29, 19); MenuPrint(ewram0_3.regionMap.mapSectionName, 17, 15); MenuPrint_RightAligned(r4->unk0[ewram0_3.regionMap.everGrandeCityArea], 29, 17); return; } break; } } // This check is always true, but somehow the compiler still performed it. asm("mov %0, #0\n":"=r"(zero)); // zero = 0 if (zero == 0) { MenuDrawTextWindow(16, 16, 29, 19); MenuPrint(ewram0_3.regionMap.mapSectionName, 17, 17); MenuZeroFillWindowRect(16, 14, 29, 15); } } else { MenuDrawTextWindow(16, 16, 29, 19); MenuPrint(ewramBlankMapName, 17, 17); MenuZeroFillWindowRect(16, 14, 29, 15); } }` notice the `asm` hack
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:43 AM
yeah, there's a BGB script that I've been looking to poke with
Revo 12/17/2017 1:43 AM
previously, it was needed to match
1:43 AM
but recently, I found out why
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:43 AM
been porting it to Arduino C
Revo 12/17/2017 1:43 AM
PS: it's really dumb.
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:43 AM
checking if zero == 0?
1:43 AM
that does seem backwards
1:43 AM
what's the reason?
Revo 12/17/2017 1:43 AM
yes, it is.
1:44 AM
but here's the reason. it's gcc's fault.
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:44 AM
that sounds to me like something a debug compiler would insert to make a breakpoint in the IDE
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:44 AM
@ℤahlman heck, even a nop would be good enough for that, or an empty statement
Revo 12/17/2017 1:44 AM
`static void PrintFlyTargetName(void) { if (ewram0_3.regionMap.unk16 == 2 || ewram0_3.regionMap.unk16 == 4) { u16 i = 0; int zero; bool32 dontDrawText = FALSE; for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_COUNT(sUnknown_083E79C0); i++) { const struct UnknownStruct4 *r4 = &sUnknown_083E79C0[i]; if (ewram0_3.regionMap.mapSectionId == r4->mapSectionId) { if (FlagGet(r4->flag)) { MenuDrawTextWindow(16, 14, 29, 19); MenuPrint(ewram0_3.regionMap.mapSectionName, 17, 15); MenuPrint_RightAligned(r4->unk0[ewram0_3.regionMap.everGrandeCityArea], 29, 17); return; } break; } } if (!dontDrawText) { MenuDrawTextWindow(16, 16, 29, 19); MenuPrint(ewram0_3.regionMap.mapSectionName, 17, 17); MenuZeroFillWindowRect(16, 14, 29, 15); } } else { MenuDrawTextWindow(16, 16, 29, 19); MenuPrint(ewramBlankMapName, 17, 17); MenuZeroFillWindowRect(16, 14, 29, 15); } }` if 2 variables are assigned the same value at the same scope, but one isnt used until later, the compiler will attempt to delay this assignment. But it turns out... this delay is bugged in gcc. The delay skips optimization completely
1:44 AM
so if 0==0 is left in
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
oh. ouch
Revo 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
`= FALSE` and `i = 0` respectively.
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
oh weird
Revo 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
yeah
1:45 AM
its an edge case gcc bug.
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
nice find
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
... wait hold on
Revo 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
this was obviously fixed in later gcc
1:45 AM
but annoying.
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
you said 2.95?
Revo 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
i was told 2.95
1:45 AM
might be mistaken.
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:45 AM
oh god I remember using that for c++ in university. it was terrible
Revo 12/17/2017 1:46 AM
https://github.com/pret/agbcc
pret/agbcc
agbcc - C compiler
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:46 AM
it would ICE all the time
Revo 12/17/2017 1:46 AM
here's the simplified version of arm-000512 we use
1:46 AM
it only has the Thumb instructions/configs
1:46 AM
so we can simplify building pokeruby
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:46 AM
I heard the gcc project officially disowned it and acted as if it were never released
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:46 AM
@ƒluƒƒу but yeah, I need to get a breakout board so I can hook my GBA up to the Arduino through a Link Cable first
1:46 AM
so i'm working on porting this python script
1:47 AM
and my god this is awful to port
Revo 12/17/2017 1:47 AM
basically, this pokeruby project has turned us all into gurus of gcc 2.95 arm-thumb behavior
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:47 AM
porting it how exactly
Revo 12/17/2017 1:47 AM
we all know the compiler very very well
1:47 AM
in terms of alloc
1:47 AM
and behavior
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:48 AM
@ℤahlman porting some of the data structures isn't nice when I have to guess what their types are. I found what I thought was an array is actually a list, which I don't get in Arduino-C
1:48 AM
so I now have to see how large I should make this array
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:48 AM
oh from the python script to c?
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:48 AM
yeah
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:48 AM
I can do that
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:48 AM
since in Python you just give a variable a name
1:48 AM
and assign it whatever you want
1:48 AM
and it just assumes the type
Revo 12/17/2017 1:48 AM
Game Freak does write the occasional really well-packed function, though
1:48 AM
2 examples
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:48 AM
how hacked is "arduino-c" tho
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:49 AM
I've gotten it pretty good so far
Revo 12/17/2017 1:49 AM
`static u16 sub_80FB758(u16 mapSectionId) { switch (mapSectionId) { case MAPSEC_NONE: return 0; case MAPSEC_LITTLEROOT_TOWN: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_LITTLEROOT_TOWN) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_OLDALE_TOWN: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_OLDALE_TOWN) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_DEWFORD_TOWN: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_DEWFORD_TOWN) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_LAVARIDGE_TOWN: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_LAVARIDGE_TOWN) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_FALLARBOR_TOWN: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_FALLARBOR_TOWN) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_VERDANTURF_TOWN: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_VERDANTURF_TOWN) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_PACIFIDLOG_TOWN: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_PACIFIDLOG_TOWN) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_PETALBURG_CITY: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_PETALBURG_CITY) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_SLATEPORT_CITY: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_SLATEPORT_CITY) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_MAUVILLE_CITY: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_MAUVILLE_CITY) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_RUSTBORO_CITY: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_RUSTBORO_CITY) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_FORTREE_CITY: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_FORTREE_CITY) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_LILYCOVE_CITY: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_LILYCOVE_CITY) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_MOSSDEEP_CITY: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_MOSSDEEP_CITY) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_SOOTOPOLIS_CITY: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_SOOTOPOLIS_CITY) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_EVER_GRANDE_CITY: return FlagGet(FLAG_VISITED_EVER_GRANDE_CITY) ? 2 : 3; case MAPSEC_BATTLE_TOWER: return FlagGet(FLAG_UNLOCK_BATTLE_TOWER) ? 4 : 0; case MAPSEC_SOUTHERN_ISLAND: return FlagGet(FLAG_UNLOCK_SOUTHERN_ISLAND) ? 1 : 0; default: return 1; } }`
1:49 AM
(matches)
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:49 AM
ternary operators? nice
Revo 12/17/2017 1:49 AM
yup
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:49 AM
way better than using a million if statements
Revo 12/17/2017 1:49 AM
region_map.c seems to have been written by a competant person
1:49 AM
the rest of the game, cant say much
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:49 AM
ok but like
1:50 AM
assuming those enum values are sequential, there's got to be a better way than that switch statement
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:50 AM
Arduino-C is based on regular C with a few additions and specific things for the Arduino
Revo 12/17/2017 1:50 AM
you can probably use a macro for it, and it still matches after preprocessing
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:50 AM
it's coming along so far, but I still have some functions to work on, and I want to see if I can get a definite size on this array
Revo 12/17/2017 1:50 AM
right now we just match it
1:50 AM
then later on make it pretty
1:50 AM
comment, macro it up
1:50 AM
etc
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:51 AM
I have it set as an array of size 1024, but I'm going to see if it needs to be larger or smaller
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:51 AM
ah yes, the lost art of static allocation :3
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:51 AM
well, considering I don't have a list data structure, I don't have a choice sadly
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:51 AM
(python's list is more like a vector)
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:52 AM
yeah
1:52 AM
I found a .append in there
1:52 AM
and it totally screwed me up
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:52 AM
but in terms of memory allocation
1:52 AM
it behaves as std::vector<PyObject*>, except implemented from scratch in C (in the reference implementation) and using a custom resizing strategy
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:53 AM
yeah
1:53 AM
well, I'll have to see what I can do next
1:53 AM
the data structure I need, for all I know, could actually be fixed-size
1:53 AM
so I'll have to run some tests
Revo 12/17/2017 1:54 AM
speaking of "better way to write it", one of the functions from the battle script commands file was notoriously ugly and used lots of temp variables to hack-a-matching function
1:54 AM
but when later revisted, someone figured it out
1:54 AM
so, the original function
1:54 AM
before figuring it out:
1:54 AM
`static void atk04_critcalc(void) { u8 hold_effect; u16 item; u16 crit_chance; int adderv3, adderv5, adderv6, adderv7, adderv8, adderv9, adderv10, adderv11; u16 adderv12; item = gBattleMons[gBankAttacker].item; if (item == ITEM_ENIGMA_BERRY) hold_effect = gEnigmaBerries[gBankAttacker].holdEffect; else hold_effect = ItemId_GetHoldEffect(item); gStringBank = gBankAttacker; if (gBattleMons[gBankAttacker].status2 & STATUS2_FOCUS_ENERGY) adderv3 = 2; else adderv3 = 0; if (gBattleMoves[gCurrentMove].effect == EFFECT_HIGH_CRITICAL) {adderv3++;} adderv5 = adderv3; if (gBattleMoves[gCurrentMove].effect == EFFECT_SKY_ATTACK) {adderv5 = adderv3 + 1;} if (gBattleMoves[gCurrentMove].effect == EFFECT_BLAZE_KICK) {adderv5++;} adderv6 = adderv5; if (gBattleMoves[gCurrentMove].effect == EFFECT_POISON_TAIL) {adderv6 = adderv5 + 1;} adderv7 = 0; if (hold_effect == HOLD_EFFECT_LUCKY_PUNCH && gBattleMons[gBankAttacker].species == SPECIES_CHANSEY) {adderv7 = 1;} adderv8 = 2 * adderv7; adderv9 = 0; if (hold_effect == HOLD_EFFECT_STICK && gBattleMons[gBankAttacker].species == SPECIES_FARFETCHD) {adderv9 = 1;} adderv11 = 2 * adderv9; if (hold_effect == HOLD_EFFECT_SCOPE_LENS) {adderv10 = 1 + adderv6 + adderv8; adderv12 = adderv10 + adderv11;} else {adderv10 = adderv6 + adderv8; adderv12 = adderv10 + adderv11;} crit_chance = adderv12; if (crit_chance > 4) {crit_chance = 4;} if ((gBattleMons[gBankTarget].ability != ABILITY_BATTLE_ARMOR && gBattleMons[gBankTarget].ability != ABILITY_SHELL_ARMOR) && !(gStatuses3[gBankAttacker] & STATUS3_CANT_SCORE_A_CRIT) && !(gBattleTypeFlags & (BATTLE_TYPE_WALLY_TUTORIAL | BATTLE_TYPE_FIRST_BATTLE)) && !(Random() % gCriticalHitChance[crit_chance])) gCritMultiplier = 2; else gCritMultiplier = 1; gBattlescriptCurrInstr++; }`
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:55 AM
oh lord
Revo 12/17/2017 1:55 AM
its just as ugly as it looks
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:55 AM
ew
Revo 12/17/2017 1:55 AM
but someone figured out the actual function
1:55 AM
reason?
1:55 AM
`static void atk04_critcalc(void) { u8 holdEffect; u16 item, critChance; item = gBattleMons[gBankAttacker].item; if (item == ITEM_ENIGMA_BERRY) holdEffect = gEnigmaBerries[gBankAttacker].holdEffect; else holdEffect = ItemId_GetHoldEffect(item); gStringBank = gBankAttacker; critChance = 2 * ((gBattleMons[gBankAttacker].status2 & STATUS2_FOCUS_ENERGY) != 0) + (gBattleMoves[gCurrentMove].effect == EFFECT_HIGH_CRITICAL) + (gBattleMoves[gCurrentMove].effect == EFFECT_SKY_ATTACK) + (gBattleMoves[gCurrentMove].effect == EFFECT_BLAZE_KICK) + (gBattleMoves[gCurrentMove].effect == EFFECT_POISON_TAIL) + (holdEffect == HOLD_EFFECT_SCOPE_LENS) + 2 * (holdEffect == HOLD_EFFECT_LUCKY_PUNCH && gBattleMons[gBankAttacker].species == SPECIES_CHANSEY) + 2 * (holdEffect == HOLD_EFFECT_STICK && gBattleMons[gBankAttacker].species == SPECIES_FARFETCHD); if (critChance > 4) critChance = 4; if ((gBattleMons[gBankTarget].ability != ABILITY_BATTLE_ARMOR && gBattleMons[gBankTarget].ability != ABILITY_SHELL_ARMOR) && !(gStatuses3[gBankAttacker] & STATUS3_CANT_SCORE_A_CRIT) && !(gBattleTypeFlags & (BATTLE_TYPE_WALLY_TUTORIAL | BATTLE_TYPE_FIRST_BATTLE)) && !(Random() % sCriticalHitChance[critChance])) gCritMultiplier = 2; else gCritMultiplier = 1; gBattlescriptCurrInstr++; }` it used an in-assignment evaluation
1:56 AM
much much better
1:56 AM
and still matches
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:56 AM
oh nice
Revo 12/17/2017 1:56 AM
stuff like this happens all the time
1:56 AM
someone goes back and figures out how to fix it
1:56 AM
but more often than not, a function just forever remains ugly
1:56 AM
because sometimes it really was written that way
1:56 AM
and we cant know for sure
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:56 AM
normally GF has decent code
1:56 AM
other times
1:57 AM
not so much it seems
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:57 AM
what are you using for the initial decomp tho? ida pro?
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:57 AM
i found that in addition to a debug menu in the Japanese release of Crystal
Revo 12/17/2017 1:57 AM
we have an IDA dump for the ugly as hell pseudocode, and we use notepad and guesswork for the rest
1:57 AM
we write out the C
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:57 AM
they left in sample packages for the Mobile Adapter in the ROM in one of the banks
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:57 AM
mm
Revo 12/17/2017 1:57 AM
by observing the thumb
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:57 AM
so I imagine the online features can actually be restored to a point
Revo 12/17/2017 1:57 AM
notepad and guesswork and recompiling over and over
1:57 AM
and diffing
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:58 AM
I'm a peasant doing the first step by hand as well (well I have a disassembler, but).
Revo 12/17/2017 1:58 AM
but man
1:58 AM
it feels so good when you get that `pokeruby.gba: OK`
1:58 AM
because the func matches
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:58 AM
(I have IDA Pro, but I have some other disassembly work I'd like to actually get around to doing) (edited)
Revo 12/17/2017 1:58 AM
and rest of ROM lines up
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 1:58 AM
heh
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:58 AM
i had work on a music engine that I was also doing
1:58 AM
but school happened
Revo 12/17/2017 1:58 AM
so sha1sum matches
1:58 AM
https://github.com/pret/pokeruby/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
pret/pokeruby
pokeruby - Disassembly of Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire
1:59 AM
this is the process we use
1:59 AM
each file, function by function
1:59 AM
and sometimes we have to skip it and move on
1:59 AM
(by nonmatching it)
Incineroar 12/17/2017 1:59 AM
i'll be back in a few
1:59 AM
o/
Revo 12/17/2017 1:59 AM
either because it really is hard to figure out
1:59 AM
or not enough info
1:59 AM
(for struct defs and such)
1:59 AM
its a really addicting programming puzzle
1:59 AM
for me at least
2:00 AM
sort of like a gcc version of guess who
2:00 AM
but with functions
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:00 AM
heh
2:00 AM
wow it's all up on github
Revo 12/17/2017 2:00 AM
and other times an "AW COME ON game freak did you really write such garbage "
Video 12/17/2017 2:00 AM
I've got thousands of versions to document. Holy shit.
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:00 AM
and you're using like real tools and getting build test indicators and everything
divingkxt 12/17/2017 2:00 AM
https://tcrf.net/Category:Games_with_uncompiled_source_code
Category:Games with uncompiled source code
Revo 12/17/2017 2:00 AM
cause it matches with bad C
divingkxt 12/17/2017 2:01 AM
Imagine if something like this happened to a Pokemon game.
2:01 AM
Unlikely, but it has happened before. Largely in the 80's and 90's.
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 2:01 AM
wasn't there like, a scrap of something uncompiled in one of the 3ds games
2:02 AM
or am i misremembering something else
Revo 12/17/2017 2:02 AM
we want to decompile all the Pokemon GBA games (R/S/E/FR/LG), PMD, and Pinball R/S, and from what we see they all look to be written in C, and use agbcc
2:02 AM
so thats very easy for us to continue
2:02 AM
@ƒluƒƒу that was a header file (edited)
2:02 AM
for a Game Freak archival program
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 2:02 AM
oof, a swing and a miss
2:02 AM
my b
Revo 12/17/2017 2:03 AM
more GBA games can possibly be decompiled using our method, but its a case by case basis.
2:03 AM
for example, C++ decomp using this compiler (assuming you find a game which uses C++98 and agbcc) is uncharted territory
2:03 AM
and some studios used their own toolchains
2:03 AM
again, case by case
2:03 AM
Webfoot Technologies seemed to exclusively use C++
2:04 AM
for Legacy of Goku series, MLP, and their other games
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:04 AM
...how would you detect that?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:04 AM
we might be gurus of C90 decomp here, but arm decompilation (Golden Sun MIGHT have compiled arm.. dunno.)
2:04 AM
and C++98 is uncharted waters
2:04 AM
trial and error and guess work I guess..
2:04 AM
there's no real detection method
2:04 AM
case by case
2:05 AM
as i said
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:05 AM
any use of c++ back then I imagine would have been very restricted and c-like
2:05 AM
like even on desktop people were afraid to use exceptions because of overhead
Revo 12/17/2017 2:05 AM
we did example a few more games, for example, Mario & Donkey Kong seems to be C, Sonic Advance MIGHT either be C with O3, or C++98
2:05 AM
we cant tell without a closer look
2:05 AM
the GBA decomp scene for us is very new
2:05 AM
there's not really any procedures or methodologies
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:06 AM
just the idea that there is a "scene" for that is... something
Revo 12/17/2017 2:06 AM
yeah
2:06 AM
and it might happen for N64 some day, too. I was able to match functions in Paper Mario using gcc 2.7.2 that same with "sdk2"
divingkxt 12/17/2017 2:06 AM
Sort of starting already...
Revo 12/17/2017 2:06 AM
N64 decomp research is pending, however
2:06 AM
because the assembler has... issues
divingkxt 12/17/2017 2:06 AM
https://tcrf.net/Fighting_Force_64/Uncompiled_Source_Code
Uncompiled Source Code
Revo 12/17/2017 2:06 AM
pseudo ops are terribad
2:07 AM
in terms of trying to get a working setup
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:07 AM
heh
Revo 12/17/2017 2:07 AM
Mainly I was focused on trying to get Stadium and Stadium 2 for pret to decompile
2:07 AM
but I think N64 games can also be decompiled, but its probably harder because of OS gunk and very bad toolchains
2:07 AM
im not looking forward to that...
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 2:07 AM
i did wonder how nightmarish that would be
divingkxt 12/17/2017 2:07 AM
https://tcrf.net/NHL_Breakaway_99_(Nintendo_64)/Uncompiled_Source_Code
Uncompiled Source Code
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 2:08 AM
i'm far from an expert or knowledgeable about this stuff
2:08 AM
but everything i've heard about the n64 environment strikes me as extremely Hell for reverse engineering
Revo 12/17/2017 2:08 AM
thatg reminds me. speaking of debug prints
2:08 AM
I managed to import the actual AGBPrint SDK library into pokeruby dissassembly
2:08 AM
https://i.imgur.com/DroLCzB.png
divingkxt 12/17/2017 2:08 AM
Saturn is worse than the N64 though.
Revo 12/17/2017 2:08 AM
proof it works
2:08 AM
Saturn decomp.. I dont even wanna think about it.
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 2:08 AM
i guess i've heard a lot less about the saturn
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:09 AM
how does the library work? does it just memory-map some address the hardware doesn't normally use?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:09 AM
`case CONTINUE: AGBPrint("Game has started.\n"); gPlttBufferUnfaded[0] = 0; gPlttBufferFaded[0] = 0; SetMainCallback2(CB2_ContinueSavedGame); AGBPrintFlush1Block(); DestroyTask(taskId); break;`
2:10 AM
AGBPrint uses the debugger memory area, which is only available on a "debugger unit"
2:10 AM
http://problemkaputt.de/gbatek.htm#gbamemorymap
2:10 AM
this wont work on a real GBA
2:11 AM
it was intended for debugger units
2:11 AM
to display important info, of course
2:11 AM
these strings are stored as ascii
2:11 AM
`u16 Random(void) { gRngValue = 1103515245 * gRngValue + 24691; AGBPrintf("%i\n", gRngValue); AGBPrintFlush1Block(); return gRngValue >> 16; }`
2:11 AM
more examples.
2:11 AM
once you print, you need to flush the block
2:11 AM
flushing is what actually displays it
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:11 AM
is there printing statements still left in Ruby?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:11 AM
No. But there are in FR/LG
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:12 AM
wait hold on
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:12 AM
oh, nice
Revo 12/17/2017 2:12 AM
Figuring AGBPrint was critical for us to start pokefirered
2:12 AM
As it still has asserts
2:12 AM
they left the library in the game.
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:12 AM
>Normally, this entry should be zero. With Nintendo's hardware debugger Bit 7 identifies the debugging handlers entry point and size of DACS (Debugging And Communication System) memory: Bit7=0: 9FFC000h/8MBIT DACS, Bit7=1: 9FE2000h/1MBIT DACS. The debugging handler can be enabled in 800009Ch (see above), normal cartridges do not have any memory (nor any mirrors) at these addresses though. so non-debug 32 meg cartridges aren't actually a full 32 mb?
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:12 AM
whoopsies
Revo 12/17/2017 2:12 AM
beats me. All I did was take `libisagbprn.a`, dissassemble it, recompile it for modern EABI, cram all of newlib into pokeruby, fix the linking issues, and included `IsAgbPrint.h` in the source
2:13 AM
and proceeded to use `AGBPrint`
2:13 AM
on a C level
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:13 AM
man, if only other game disassemblies had as much effort as pokeruby has lol
Revo 12/17/2017 2:13 AM
old newlib was so fucking nasty to figure out.
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:13 AM
seriously the amount of work you guys do is amazing
Revo 12/17/2017 2:13 AM
old software gunk is
2:13 AM
THE
2:13 AM
WORST
2:14 AM
I had to fix like, 50+ things (I was working on this for literally 6+ hours)
2:14 AM
but hey, AGB printing works
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 2:15 AM
god this sort of thing is so fascinating
2:15 AM
i wish i understood it better
2:15 AM
by which i mean, at all
Revo 12/17/2017 2:15 AM
TLDR this is a method that brute forces part of the original code written for the game
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:15 AM
i did some x86 assembly so i'm hoping to apply that to ARM/Thumb soon enough
Revo 12/17/2017 2:15 AM
there are probably many functions which have several ways of matching
2:15 AM
others that have just 1
2:15 AM
etc
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:16 AM
i'm working on an audio engine but it's been on the shelf for a couple years
Revo 12/17/2017 2:16 AM
and lets talk about.. those nonmatchings
2:16 AM
the really scary motherfuckers.
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 2:16 AM
oh boy
Revo 12/17/2017 2:16 AM
the worst, most difficult functions to figure out
2:16 AM
and are still mysteries to us
2:16 AM
I keep a list of the worst nonmatchings
2:16 AM
and recently I did figure out some of them
2:16 AM
but others are a mystery
2:17 AM
hmm, where to start...
2:17 AM
ah, I forgot
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:17 AM
>Parts of DACS memory is used to store the debugging exception handlers (entry point/size defined in cartridge header), the remaining memory could be used to store game positions or other data. The address space is the upper end of the 32MB ROM area, the memory can be read directly by the CPU, including for ability to execute program code in this area.
2:17 AM
weird
2:17 AM
potentially useful
Revo 12/17/2017 2:18 AM
i havent explored that thoroughly
2:18 AM
but as i was saying
2:18 AM
one of the longest standing nonmatchings in pokeruby was `InsertTask`
2:18 AM
early on, it was a complete mystery to why it was nonmatching
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:18 AM
@Incineroar like almost every gba rom includes the standard nintendo one or slight modifications thereto... why start from scratch?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:18 AM
so, here is the original NONMATCHING InsertTask
2:18 AM
`#ifdef NONMATCHING static void InsertTask(u8 newTaskId) { u8 taskId = FindFirstActiveTask(); if (taskId == NUM_TASKS) { // The new task is the only task. gTasks[newTaskId].prev = HEAD_SENTINEL; gTasks[newTaskId].next = TAIL_SENTINEL; return; } for (;;) { if (gTasks[newTaskId].priority < gTasks[taskId].priority) { // We've found a task with a higher priority value, // so we insert the new task before it. gTasks[newTaskId].prev = gTasks[taskId].prev; gTasks[newTaskId].next = taskId; if (gTasks[taskId].prev != HEAD_SENTINEL) gTasks[gTasks[taskId].prev].next = newTaskId; gTasks[taskId].prev = newTaskId; return; } if (gTasks[taskId].next != TAIL_SENTINEL) taskId = gTasks[taskId].next; else break; } // We've reached the end. gTasks[newTaskId].prev = taskId; gTasks[newTaskId].next = gTasks[taskId].next; gTasks[taskId].next = newTaskId; }`
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:19 AM
@ℤahlman this isn't a Nintendo sound engine
Revo 12/17/2017 2:19 AM
it was definitely functionally equivalent
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:19 AM
it's one by Shin'en
Revo 12/17/2017 2:19 AM
but it was just a mystery why the asm was so far off
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:19 AM
o_O
Revo 12/17/2017 2:19 AM
ok ill stop until the students sit back down in their desks
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:19 AM
it even has support for streaming audio, which I've managed to hack
Revo 12/17/2017 2:20 AM
anyways, try to guess why InsertTask wasnt matching
2:20 AM
because i promise you
2:20 AM
you will not guess it
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:20 AM
i feel it's that loop
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:20 AM
should it have explicitly been written as while(true) or something instead?
2:20 AM
oh no wait
2:20 AM
I bet it was some kindof retry: goto construct
Revo 12/17/2017 2:21 AM
actually, you're correct, zahlman. Turns out gcc had a slight difference between for(;;) and while(1) when it came to tail merge behavior
2:21 AM
yes, really.
2:21 AM
`static void InsertTask(u8 newTaskId) { u8 taskId = FindFirstActiveTask(); if (taskId == ACTIVE_SENTINEL) { // The task system inserts from the top downwards starting from the end (0xFF) to 0. If FindFirstActiveTask returned the value equivalent to ACTIVE_SENTINEL, it means it is the only task because it searched the entire queue. gTasks[newTaskId].prev = HEAD_SENTINEL; gTasks[newTaskId].next = TAIL_SENTINEL; return; } while (1) { if (gTasks[newTaskId].priority < gTasks[taskId].priority) { // We've found a task with a higher priority value, // so we insert the new task before it. gTasks[newTaskId].prev = gTasks[taskId].prev; gTasks[newTaskId].next = taskId; if (gTasks[taskId].prev != HEAD_SENTINEL) gTasks[gTasks[taskId].prev].next = newTaskId; // as long as we are not at the end, insert the newTask appropriately. gTasks[taskId].prev = newTaskId; return; } if (gTasks[taskId].next == TAIL_SENTINEL) // we did not find a space for the task, so overwrite the last task as it is the lowest priority. { // We've reached the end. gTasks[newTaskId].prev = taskId; gTasks[newTaskId].next = gTasks[taskId].next; gTasks[taskId].next = newTaskId; return; } taskId = gTasks[taskId].next; // neither the priority was lower, nor the end. check the next task. } }`
2:21 AM
thats the matching InsertTask
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:21 AM
heh
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:21 AM
yeah, that for(;;) is a bit more expensive
2:21 AM
while(1) would be more efficient
Revo 12/17/2017 2:22 AM
why would they be different
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:22 AM
I heard that `for(;;)` is a thing kids used to learn to do in programming competitions for speed of programming
2:22 AM
if it turns out later that you want it not to be infinite, it's easier to fix
2:22 AM
or some such
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:22 AM
shouldn't a `break;` just break out of it?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:23 AM
but that points us to the nature of Nonmatchings: sometimes, these functions are hiding new, valuable compiler knowledge from us that is important for us to match other functions
2:23 AM
some functions are just the wrong order or whatever
2:23 AM
or an untried "combination"
2:23 AM
but others like this are a profound leap in logic
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:23 AM
... Uhm.
Revo 12/17/2017 2:23 AM
a completely ridiculous guess
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:23 AM
This is a bit of a long shot, but by any chance is the struct in that `gTasks` array, of size 0x6C bytes?
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:23 AM
like, regardless if it's an infinite for loop or an infinite while loop, in the same manner?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:24 AM
`struct Task { /*0x00*/ TaskFunc func; /*0x04*/ bool8 isActive; /*0x05*/ u8 prev; /*0x06*/ u8 next; /*0x07*/ u8 priority; /*0x08*/ s16 data[16]; }; extern struct Task gTasks[];`
2:24 AM
there are 16 tasks
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:24 AM
hmm, considerably smaller then.
2:24 AM
yeah, not at all a match for what I was hoping
Revo 12/17/2017 2:24 AM
a Task is a kind of callback in gen 3 with a local cache of data attached to it
2:24 AM
we know its called a Task, cause the debug ROM called them that
2:25 AM
`// Unused string const u8 sTaskOverString[] = _("TASK OVER\nタスクがオーバーしました");`
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:25 AM
... actually
2:25 AM
that sort of bears a resemblance to the other related thing I was thinking of. except it wouldn't have `data`
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:25 AM
(bless the debug ROM) (edited)
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:25 AM
lol TASUKA ga OOBAA shimashita (edited)
Revo 12/17/2017 2:25 AM
so if a function needs to run repeatedly every frame, or have some sort of timer, those are usually Task functions
2:26 AM
`void Task_RunFor1Second(u8 taskId) { if (++gTasks[taskId].data[0] == 60) DestroyTask(taskId); }`
2:26 AM
or similar.
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:26 AM
right
Revo 12/17/2017 2:27 AM
oh, by the way, i got off topic
2:27 AM
scary nonmatchings
2:27 AM
the ones still at large.
2:28 AM
so here is the function in the player PC file which prints the Mail List
2:28 AM
it uses a lot of hacks to "match"
2:28 AM
GF didnt write this.
2:28 AM
`// WWHHHHHYYYYYYYY SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THIS static void Mailbox_DrawMailList(u8 taskId) // taskId is unused { u16 yCoord = 0; u16 i = eMailboxInfo.itemsAbove; register struct MailboxStruct *tempMailbox asm("r1") = &eMailboxInfo; register struct MailboxStruct *mailbox asm("r6"); if(i < i + tempMailbox->pageItems) { mailbox = tempMailbox; goto forJump; for(; i < mailbox->itemsAbove + mailbox->pageItems; i++) { forJump: yCoord = (i - mailbox->itemsAbove) * 2; MenuFillWindowRectWithBlankTile(0x15, yCoord + 2, 0x1C, yCoord + 3); if(i != mailbox->count) { StringCopy(gStringVar1, gSaveBlock1.mail[i + 6].playerName); SanitizeNameString(gStringVar1); MenuPrint(gStringVar1, 0x15, yCoord + 2); } else { goto weirdCase; // again, what??? } } } beforeLabel: if(i - eMailboxInfo.itemsAbove != 8) MenuFillWindowRectWithBlankTile(0x15, yCoord + 4, 0x1C, 0x12); switch(eMailboxInfo.itemsAbove) { default: CreateVerticalScrollIndicators(0, 0xC8, 8); break; weirdCase: MenuPrint(gOtherText_CancelNoTerminator, 0x15, yCoord + 2); goto beforeLabel; case 0: DestroyVerticalScrollIndicator(0); break; } if(eMailboxInfo.itemsAbove + eMailboxInfo.pageItems <= eMailboxInfo.count) CreateVerticalScrollIndicators(1, 0xC8, 0x98); else DestroyVerticalScrollIndicator(1); }`
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:28 AM
i love that comment
Revo 12/17/2017 2:28 AM
its a nasty combination of strange register use
2:28 AM
in double with a weird unexpected down merge
2:29 AM
its most likely undiscovered compiler behavior
2:29 AM
and resolving it will fix it
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:29 AM
oh god the goto is into the middle of a switch case handler?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:29 AM
this was the only way (so far) i could match the ROM
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:29 AM
... actually I found some things like that
Revo 12/17/2017 2:29 AM
obviously there's a fix
2:29 AM
but it hasnt been found yet.
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:29 AM
but I never tried to "match", I just figured out what it was doing
2:29 AM
and since my purpose was to hack that function directly, I kinda uh just rewrote the whole thing
Revo 12/17/2017 2:30 AM
this kind of function is what we call a fakematching, where it uses hacks to match, and it was obviously not actually written said way
2:30 AM
as in, it does produce the same asm
2:30 AM
but with hacks
2:30 AM
so its "fake"
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:30 AM
right
2:31 AM
but yeah the compiler merges tails oddly sometimes
Revo 12/17/2017 2:31 AM
we know plenty of downmerge cases
2:31 AM
upmerges on the other hand are extremely are
2:31 AM
and there's currently only 1 known way to do it
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:31 AM
afraid I'm not familiar with the terminology there
Revo 12/17/2017 2:31 AM
sorry, tail merges and head merges
2:31 AM
i use those interchangably
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:32 AM
ah
Revo 12/17/2017 2:32 AM
there's currently only 1 known matching head merge
2:32 AM
`static void BattleAICmd_if_status_in_party(void) { struct Pokemon *party; struct Pokemon *partyPtr; int i; u32 statusToCompareTo; // for whatever reason, game freak put the party pointer into 2 variables instead of 1. it's possible at some point the switch encompassed the whole function and used each respective variable creating largely duplicate code. switch (gAIScriptPtr[1]) { case 1: party = partyPtr = gEnemyParty; break; default: party = partyPtr = gPlayerParty; break; } statusToCompareTo = T1_READ_32(gAIScriptPtr + 2); for (i = 0; i < 6; i++) { u16 species = GetMonData(&party[i], MON_DATA_SPECIES); u16 hp = GetMonData(&party[i], MON_DATA_HP); u32 status = GetMonData(&party[i], MON_DATA_STATUS); if (species != SPECIES_NONE && species != SPECIES_EGG && hp != 0 && status == statusToCompareTo) { gAIScriptPtr = T1_READ_PTR(gAIScriptPtr + 6); // WHAT. why is this being merged into the above switch return; } } gAIScriptPtr += 10; }`
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:32 AM
(I feel like I would have to study these examples at much below conversation speed to really internalize it)
Revo 12/17/2017 2:32 AM
that return code is a head merge
2:32 AM
i got that to match by complete accident (edited)
2:33 AM
when i was just trying stupid stuff
2:33 AM
for some reason the compiler must have thought it would be faster if the code was moved in between the cases
2:33 AM
the "optimization" involves tricking the compiler into thinking this
2:33 AM
and there's not many known cases
2:34 AM
believe me, i tried to write that switch differently
2:34 AM
but without that switch, gcc wouldnt move the code
eientei 12/17/2017 2:34 AM
@Revo In your opinion, is Ruby a bunch of C code that was tricked into being a game
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:34 AM
wait so the corresponding asm for the switch cases is on either side of the part that happens after the switch? o_O
Revo 12/17/2017 2:35 AM
yes, really. there's a double ptr alloc there
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:35 AM
that is indeed odd.
Revo 12/17/2017 2:35 AM
odd indeed, i needed the double assignment for it to work
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:35 AM
@eientei @Revo I was taking to Shiny Quagsire, and he says that between Ruby and Fire Red, Ruby feels like super-hacked code that is generally sloppy
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:35 AM
I've done that kind of rearrangement in asm before, but it was to accomodate the distance limits on conditional branches
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:35 AM
I feel that Fire Red is immensely better-coded based on that statement
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:35 AM
those really shouldn't be applicable in something this short
Revo 12/17/2017 2:35 AM
yes, Ruby/Sapphire was GF's first game in C
2:35 AM
some slack is necessary
2:35 AM
but this is silly
2:36 AM
anyway
2:36 AM
we're not just decompiling r/s, but emerald
2:36 AM
and emerald has the most current notorious nonmatching
2:36 AM
known as `ScrollWindow`
2:36 AM
it is a mathy function which increments the window graphics
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:36 AM
wait so the code doesn't actually use `partyPtr`, but compiles differently without it?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:36 AM
yes
2:37 AM
as i said
2:37 AM
old gcc is dumb
2:37 AM
ruby uses -O2
2:37 AM
not O3
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:37 AM
jeez
Revo 12/17/2017 2:38 AM
anyways
2:38 AM
https://hastebin.com/ixajineyoc.coffeescript
2:38 AM
ScrollWindow.
2:38 AM
its a meme in the pret group for being notoriously mathy
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:38 AM
that has
Revo 12/17/2017 2:38 AM
noone has even come close to the right asm
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:38 AM
so much math
2:38 AM
oh god
Revo 12/17/2017 2:39 AM
in fact there used to be an actual bounty (USD) on anyone matching this
2:39 AM
because it was so bleeding hard
2:39 AM
our resident Emerald decompiler, DizzyEgg, is known for pretty much matching almost everything
2:40 AM
but this was the only engine function he couldnt match
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:40 AM
DizzyEgg is pretty good with this stuff, yeah
2:40 AM
I see he's done a ton of contributions to your various repos
2:40 AM
same with camthesaxman
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:40 AM
what does pret stand for?
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:40 AM
pokemon reverse enginneering team
eientei 12/17/2017 2:40 AM
Pokemon Reverse Engineering Team
Revo 12/17/2017 2:41 AM
padz will tell you pret doesnt stand for anything
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:41 AM
Revo 12/17/2017 2:41 AM
(a joke i guess)
eientei 12/17/2017 2:41 AM
pret stands for the same as MAME
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:41 AM
honestly I love seeing these disassemblies though
2:41 AM
I love seeing how these games work
eientei 12/17/2017 2:41 AM
I loved doing the French Red disassembly (edited)
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:41 AM
I used to think this stuff was magical now I... still do, but in a more or less opposite way
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:42 AM
i do want to see how to do this for that audio engine I'm doing
2:42 AM
and break things down a bit
2:42 AM
gotta finish school first before I can focus on that
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:42 AM
you go from "how is it possible to make these things happen?" to "how is it possible that THIS is how they did it?"
eientei 12/17/2017 2:42 AM
It was surprising seeing how they hacked the code to work on the same mapper as Yellow, as well as using metric
2:43 AM
Makes me want to make Pokemon Red (Commonwealth), making Pokemon metric again
Revo 12/17/2017 2:43 AM
there's a lot more ridiculous nonmatchings where that came from
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 2:43 AM
`Pokemon Red (99% Of The World)`
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:43 AM
wew
Revo 12/17/2017 2:44 AM
this is not a nonmatching, but a fakematching
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:44 AM
we're talking about, e.g., pokemon sizes as reported to the user in text?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:44 AM
it has 0 control flow
2:44 AM
and yet:
2:44 AM
`// this function is fugly. pls fix void BuyMenuDrawGraphics(void) { void *addr; register u16 zero2 asm("r5"); sub_80F9438(); remove_some_task(); REG_BG1HOFS = (zero2 = 0); REG_BG1VOFS = zero2; REG_BG2HOFS = zero2; REG_BG2VOFS = zero2; REG_BG3HOFS = zero2; REG_BG3VOFS = zero2; gPaletteFade.bufferTransferDisabled = 1; addr = (void*)OAM; { register const u32 zero asm("r6") = 0; DmaFill32(3, zero, addr, OAM_SIZE); LZDecompressVram(gBuyMenuFrame_Gfx, (void*)(VRAM + 0x7C00)); LZDecompressWram(gBuyMenuFrame_Tilemap, ewram18000_2); LoadCompressedPalette(gMenuMoneyPal, 0xC0, sizeof(gMenuMoneyPal)); FreeAllSpritePalettes(); ResetPaletteFade(); ResetSpriteData(); ResetTasks(); SetUpWindowConfig(&gWindowConfig_81E6DFC); InitMenuWindow(&gWindowConfig_81E6DFC); BuyMenuDrawMapGraphics(); gMartInfo.cursor = zero; gMartInfo.choicesAbove = zero2; MenuZeroFillWindowRect(0, 0, 0x20, 0x20); OpenMoneyWindow(gSaveBlock1.money, 0, 0); sub_80B3764(0, 7); sub_80B37EC(); sub_80B3270(); CreateTask(sub_80B40E8, 0x8); sub_80B3240(); asm("":::"r4"); // what?? BeginNormalPaletteFade(0xFFFFFFFF, 0, 0x10, 0, zero); gPaletteFade.bufferTransferDisabled = 0; SetVBlankCallback(sub_80B30AC); SetMainCallback2(sub_80B3094); } }`
2:44 AM
is still somehow messed up
2:44 AM
and i have no idea why.
eientei 12/17/2017 2:44 AM
@ℤahlman Yeah, also how it's stored
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:45 AM
`asm("":::"r4"); // what??`
2:45 AM
I love it
Revo 12/17/2017 2:45 AM
there are seemingly 2 different registers used to hold what is `0`
2:45 AM
and yet
2:45 AM
i cant seem to reproduce that
2:45 AM
in a function with no control flow
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:46 AM
`REG_BG1HOFS = (zero2 = 0); REG_BG1VOFS = zero2; REG_BG2HOFS = zero2; REG_BG2VOFS = zero2; REG_BG3HOFS = zero2; REG_BG3VOFS = zero2;` meanwhile in the department of redundancy
Revo 12/17/2017 2:46 AM
yes
2:46 AM
necessary to "match"
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:46 AM
that hurts my soul
Revo 12/17/2017 2:46 AM
it does mine too.
2:46 AM
ill one day figure it out
2:46 AM
i think
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:47 AM
because otherwise it movs an immediate instead of from r5, I presume
Revo 12/17/2017 2:47 AM
probably some silly runtime allocation of x and y coordinates being `0` or some sillyness
2:47 AM
and being double delayed
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:47 AM
makes me wonder if it tried to optimize a var = var2 = var3 = var4 = var5 = 0;
Revo 12/17/2017 2:47 AM
i tried that
2:47 AM
but no.
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:47 AM
but failed miserably
Revo 12/17/2017 2:47 AM
nowhere near
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:48 AM
;__;
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:48 AM
do you have a process for replacing the `sub_xxxxx` as you name them? just whatever rename option in an IDE, or?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:48 AM
`// weird math #ifdef NONMATCHING void sub_80C9720(u8 taskId) { s16 x, y; s16 curX, curY; s16 width = gMapHeader.mapData->width + 7; s16 height = gMapHeader.mapData->height + 7; PlayerGetDestCoords(&x, &y); for (curX = x - 7; curX <= x + 7; curX++) { for (curY = y - 5; curY <= y + 5; curY++) { if (7 > curX || curX >= width || 7 > curY || curY >= height) { struct MapConnection *conn = sub_8056BA0(curX, curY); if (conn && sub_80C9688(conn, curX, curY) == TRUE) sub_80C9838(taskId, curX - x, curY - y); } } } } #else`
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:48 AM
game freak please hire better code writers
Revo 12/17/2017 2:48 AM
proof math hurts to match
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:49 AM
(I also do remember seeing a Pokemon Platinum disassembly but I didn't see much progress on it, speaking of disassemblies)
Revo 12/17/2017 2:49 AM
yes, JimB16's pokeplat
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:49 AM
haven't looked at it in a while though
2:49 AM
I'd love to see that progress one day
Revo 12/17/2017 2:49 AM
zahlman, sub_XXX was just what we used when we first dumped everything
2:50 AM
they are temp labels of course
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:50 AM
so that's establishing a 15x11 viewport centered on the `PlayerGetDestCoords`, and trimming out-of-bounds locations, I presume
Revo 12/17/2017 2:50 AM
its a function in item_use
2:50 AM
for the ItemFinder
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:50 AM
ah, so I guess based on those two facts, it's basically trimming the scannable location to what's visible on-screen?
Revo 12/17/2017 2:50 AM
yes
2:51 AM
and i actually did test this nonmatching in-game (we can do that, no pointers left to shift the ROM)
2:51 AM
and its functionally the same
2:51 AM
can still use Itemfinder
2:52 AM
Emerald has 2 notorious nonmatchings, though, and ScrollWindow is just 1
2:52 AM
the other is the Dma3 processor
2:52 AM
dma3_manager has 4 functions, 3 of which match
2:52 AM
`IWRAM_DATA struct { /* 0x00 */ const u8 *src; /* 0x04 */ u8 *dest; /* 0x08 */ u16 size; /* 0x0A */ u16 mode; /* 0x0C */ u32 value; } gDma3Requests[128]; static bool8 gDma3ManagerLocked; static u8 gDma3RequestCursor; void ClearDma3Requests(void) { int i; gDma3ManagerLocked = TRUE; gDma3RequestCursor = 0; for(i = 0; i < (u8)ARRAY_COUNT(gDma3Requests); i++) { gDma3Requests[i].size = 0; gDma3Requests[i].src = 0; gDma3Requests[i].dest = 0; } gDma3ManagerLocked = FALSE; }`
2:52 AM
yes the u8 cast is weird, whatever
2:53 AM
`int RequestDma3Copy(const void *src, void *dest, u16 size, u8 mode) { int cursor; int var = 0; gDma3ManagerLocked = 1; cursor = gDma3RequestCursor; while(1) { if(!gDma3Requests[cursor].size) // an empty copy was found and the current cursor will be returned. { gDma3Requests[cursor].src = src; gDma3Requests[cursor].dest = dest; gDma3Requests[cursor].size = size; if(mode == 1) gDma3Requests[cursor].mode = mode; else gDma3Requests[cursor].mode = 3; gDma3ManagerLocked = FALSE; return (s16)cursor; } if(++cursor >= 0x80) // loop back to start. { cursor = 0; } if(++var >= 0x80) // max checks were made. all resulted in failure. { break; } } gDma3ManagerLocked = FALSE; return -1; }`
2:53 AM
the 2nd matching one
2:53 AM
`int RequestDma3Fill(s32 value, void *dest, u16 size, u8 mode) { int cursor; int var = 0; cursor = gDma3RequestCursor; gDma3ManagerLocked = 1; while(1) { if(!gDma3Requests[cursor].size) { gDma3Requests[cursor].dest = dest; gDma3Requests[cursor].size = size; gDma3Requests[cursor].mode = mode; gDma3Requests[cursor].value = value; if(mode == 1) gDma3Requests[cursor].mode = 2; else gDma3Requests[cursor].mode = 4; gDma3ManagerLocked = FALSE; return (s16)cursor; } if(++cursor >= 0x80) // loop back to start. { cursor = 0; } if(++var >= 0x80) // max checks were made. all resulted in failure. { break; } } gDma3ManagerLocked = FALSE; return -1; }`
2:53 AM
the last matching one
2:54 AM
but the main function of this file
2:54 AM
`ProcessDma3Requests`
2:54 AM
the main bread and butter
Incineroar 12/17/2017 2:54 AM
oh and before I forget, @ƒluƒƒу once I finish working on that Mobile Adapter GB Arduino port, I'm intending on writing up a blog post on it and releasing my source code so that more people can muck around with it
Revo 12/17/2017 2:54 AM
the asm isnt anywhere close, even though it should be
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:54 AM
rip
Revo 12/17/2017 2:54 AM
https://hastebin.com/dalisofebi.cs
2:55 AM
this
2:55 AM
the main problem is, the switches are wrong, and they are all basically dupes of each other
2:55 AM
(the asm indicates that)
2:55 AM
and i have tried
2:55 AM
so
2:55 AM
many
2:55 AM
things
2:55 AM
but nothing comes close
2:56 AM
nonmatchings only make up like 2% of our available src/ code
2:56 AM
but its the loud minority
2:57 AM
in terms of what gets attention
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 2:57 AM
of course
Revo 12/17/2017 2:59 AM
ive even started to compile a list of tricks or things to keep in mind
2:59 AM
`So You've Got A Nonmatching And Want To Fix It Uh oh! You have a nonmatching function and want to match it. Here's a Joe's guide for some tips and tricks you can use to try and influence the assembly the way you want, starting with the Easy tricks and advice to the More advanced Tricks and advice. ---Easy Tricks--- 1] Temporary variables Start off with temporary variables hack. This influences the assembly most of the time, and can insert a type shift where you need it before its used right after. When you have a complex math assignment, it might help splitting this up into multiple assignments. 2] Modulo instead of and If you've got what looks like Random() & 0xFF, sometimes the compiler likes generating that from whats simply % 256. Try a modulo instead of an and: you never know. 3] Tail merging Duplicate code, especially in switches, is sometimes merged by the compiler jumping towards the last case of duplicate code. Don't forget to keep this in mind and just assume the duplicate code is present anyway, even if not explicit in the assembly. 4] Embedded if-checks If you have an && or || statement that isnt matching: try breaking it up into a nested check. 5] retVar vs direct return On occasion, using a return variable instead of direct return has been known to make a difference.`
2:59 AM
`---Advanced Tricks--- 1] Substructs If your code involves a rarely used struct and/or fields in the struct which isnt used elsewhere: try moving those fields to a substruct within the struct. This has been known to affect the assembly. 2] Temporary reuse Just because you have the right temporary variables doesnt mean they're correctly used. If you have weird register nonmatching use, try reusing temporary variables in certain other places: you might not be reusing the correct variables. 3] Pointer dereference A struct access doesn't match? gFooStruct->var = 0? Try dereferencing the access. Yes, really. 4] 1d array access instead of 2d We're not sure why Game Freak is obsessed with 1d arrays, but treating a 2d array as 1d might cause a difference. 5] Ninja shifts (the missing assignment of a type enforcement) The compiler may sometimes drop a bitshift type enforcement as an optimization. If this happens, you might be fooled into thinking a variable is 32-bit, when it's not. Make sure the type is consistent throughout its entire use, and the compiler might drop the shift you need to dissapear.`
3:00 AM
`---Expert Tricks--- 1] Delayed Assignment You might see the bizzare 0 == 0 check on occasion. Gcc would never generate this normally. Getting this to appear, also, is.. hard. One known method is the gcc behavior of Delayed Allocation: this is where a variable is assigned much earlier, but the compiler attempts to delay the allocation. This allocation, however, is bugged: because gcc skips optimization when this happens. This, in turn, leads to these 0 == 0 checks on occasion being left in, but delayed allocation in of itself might help fix other nonmatchings where a variable isnt actually allocated in its literal location in the assembly. 2] Head merging On occasion, gcc can move code upward instead of downward (for tail merging or optimization). Why this occurs is unknown, but one known case is where gcc moves the code upward into a switch between 2 cases. Having a switch where there normally isnt might encourage the head merge you need. 3] while(1) vs for(;;) Contrary to popular belief, there is one known edge case where these 2 differ: even though they shouldn't. If your code has tail merging, while(1) and for(;;) can potentially cause different assembly. Consider trying the other infinite loop method: it might actually cause a difference, as absurd as that is. 4] Scope declaration Even though it doesnt look like it, the presence of {} vs its non presence can cause a difference. If you have an empty break statement with {} vs removing the scope declaration, it can potentially cause registers to shift. ----For Sure Tricks--- 1] Nonmatch it and move on. You spent too much time if you've gotten to this point.`
3:00 AM
scope declaration's a strange one
3:00 AM
`u8 GetEggMoves(struct Pokemon *pokemon, u16 *eggMoves) { u16 eggMoveIdx; u16 numEggMoves; u16 species; u16 i; numEggMoves = 0; eggMoveIdx = 0; species = GetMonData(pokemon, MON_DATA_SPECIES); for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_COUNT(gEggMoves) - 1; i++) { if (gEggMoves[i] == species + EGG_MOVES_SPECIES_OFFSET) { eggMoveIdx = i + 1; break; } } for (i = 0; i < 10; i++) { if (gEggMoves[eggMoveIdx + i] > EGG_MOVES_SPECIES_OFFSET) { // TODO: the curly braces around this if statement are required for a matching build. break; } eggMoves[i] = gEggMoves[eggMoveIdx + i]; numEggMoves++; } return numEggMoves; }`
3:00 AM
the `{}` around that break?
3:00 AM
needed to match
3:01 AM
yes, seriously.
3:01 AM
scope declaration can affect registers
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:01 AM
`1] Nonmatch it and move on. You spent too much time if you've gotten to this point.` that'd just be me right away, leave all the other steps, comment in a `//todo`, and move on with my life
3:02 AM
but requiring those curly braces
Revo 12/17/2017 3:02 AM
it causes a register difference
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:02 AM
I wonder if that's because of the fact that you can have either one statement right after that is acted upon
3:03 AM
whereas with braces it can handle more than just one statement
3:03 AM
and originally it had more than one statement
3:03 AM
but everything else was removed but it was kept in the braces
3:03 AM
because of laziness
Revo 12/17/2017 3:03 AM
or its written the other way around
3:03 AM
and uses a continue
3:03 AM
might produce the same asm
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:03 AM
that's also possible
3:04 AM
code is so weird sometimes
Revo 12/17/2017 3:04 AM
https://hastebin.com/kuwazoneza.cpp
3:04 AM
another nonmatching
3:04 AM
right below it
3:04 AM
most likely wrong temp variable reuse
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:04 AM
yeah, I can see a lot of potential for error there
Revo 12/17/2017 3:05 AM
there are other cases where signed vs unsigned, and there's 0 signs of signed being used
3:05 AM
and yet it affects registers
3:05 AM
and causes a match
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:05 AM
it makes use of variables in a ton of different ways
Revo 12/17/2017 3:05 AM
its usually just a lot of patience and trying different stuff. the assembly tends to get closer to the matching one
3:05 AM
if you're getting closer
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:06 AM
i almost feel that working from the top of the function and working down attempting to match the assembly is probably the easiest way of going about such a difficult challenge
Revo 12/17/2017 3:06 AM
yes, thats how it works
3:06 AM
the top usually matches before the botom
3:06 AM
bottom
3:06 AM
compiler behavior
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:06 AM
but that's so much compiling
3:06 AM
i guess that's just part of the challenge though
Revo 12/17/2017 3:06 AM
`make -j16 NODEP=1` i use to quickly recompile
3:07 AM
takes only 1-3 seconds
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:07 AM
nothing terrible
Revo 12/17/2017 3:07 AM
we also have asmdiff.sh
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:07 AM
and I imagine with a fairly recent processor a full build doesn't take long
Revo 12/17/2017 3:07 AM
which can tell you the difference
3:07 AM
if its hard to spot
3:07 AM
if your asm lines up in size with the original
3:07 AM
and theres 1 or 2 wrong instructions
3:07 AM
etc
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:08 AM
handy
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:08 AM
>scope declaration can affect registers I'm not actually that surprised (edited)
Revo 12/17/2017 3:08 AM
in fact for the longest time AbilityBattleEffects was a nonmatching: it matched besides register use, and it was verifyably functionally equivalent
3:08 AM
AbilityBattleEffects is the largest function in all 3 games
3:08 AM
its approx 0x1C00 in size
3:09 AM
in assembly
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:09 AM
holy crap
Revo 12/17/2017 3:09 AM
yeah
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:09 AM
register allocation is not the easiest part of writing a compiler
Revo 12/17/2017 3:09 AM
and we recently got that to match
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:09 AM
how clean did it get to be?
Revo 12/17/2017 3:09 AM
we got a 700+ line function to match
3:09 AM
no hacks
3:09 AM
at all
3:09 AM
matches without hacks
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:09 AM
nice
Revo 12/17/2017 3:09 AM
turns out the issue was wrong temporary variable reuse
3:09 AM
the compiler also tends to reuse the same registers for the same temp
3:10 AM
not always, but its a tendency
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:10 AM
i also just looked back over your post on PokeCommunity and yeah, it's progressed a ton since I last played with it
Revo 12/17/2017 3:10 AM
ie, using `bank` instead of `i`
3:10 AM
in certain places
3:10 AM
bank is still set to 0 at the start
3:11 AM
so it was functionally equivalent
3:11 AM
its just weird temp use
3:11 AM
other things that can affect it? the order of vars at the top
3:11 AM
declared in order
3:12 AM
it usually doesnt, but sometimes it can be a surprise
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:12 AM
1c00 is pretty damned big yeah at 800 you start running into BLs within the function because normal jumps don't go far enough
Revo 12/17/2017 3:12 AM
it involves the last var being declared being used right after
3:12 AM
AbilityBattleEffects was just a very, very, very large switch
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:12 AM
yeah, jumps only cover what, 0xFF bytes at once?
3:12 AM
or no
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:12 AM
depends on the type
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:12 AM
128 bytes
3:12 AM
forward or backward
Revo 12/17/2017 3:12 AM
https://github.com/pret/pokeruby/blob/master/src/battle/battle_3.c#L1437
pret/pokeruby
pokeruby - Disassembly of Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire
3:13 AM
here is the entire matching function
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:13 AM
conditionals can go that far, unconditional can go further
Revo 12/17/2017 3:13 AM
all 700~ lines
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:13 AM
because the opcode doesn't encode the type of condition
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:13 AM
ah
Revo 12/17/2017 3:13 AM
Recently though, we found out something scary
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:13 AM
and seeing that huge switch reminds me of a really bad program i wrote for viewing levels in a dsiware game
Revo 12/17/2017 3:13 AM
AbilityBattleEffects is not the largest function in all the Pokemon GBA games
3:13 AM
something else is.
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:13 AM
i had a switch statement within a switch statement within a switch statement
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
(but it's actually 128 opcodes, so 256 bytes)
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
that was so confusing to keep straight
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
(in thumb)
Revo 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
There is a function in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon which executes the script table entirely in a single switch
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
oh man
Revo 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
this function is called `ExecuteScriptCommand` (we named it that)
3:14 AM
the size of it?
3:14 AM
not 0x1F00
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
too big?
Revo 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
not 0x2100
3:14 AM
not 0x2300
3:14 AM
not 0x2500
3:14 AM
but 0x2900
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
how
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
hueg
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
how big
3:14 AM
is this
Revo 12/17/2017 3:14 AM
approx 1,200-1,500 lines of C
3:14 AM
we estimate
3:15 AM
its just one holy moly giant switch
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:15 AM
that's the same size as my entire source file for my robotics final
3:15 AM
holy crap
divingkxt 12/17/2017 3:15 AM
That's roughly the amount to code a processor's instruction set.
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:15 AM
to be fair
Revo 12/17/2017 3:15 AM
and the scary thing is that we didnt look at Pinball R/S yet
ℤahlman 12/17/2017 3:15 AM
not writing that sort of thing in C tends to require the programmer to know about function pointers
Revo 12/17/2017 3:15 AM
there could be a bigger func
3:15 AM
but its unlikely.
3:16 AM
the fortune thing about switch funcs is that they can be analyzed and broken down
3:16 AM
and decompiled case by case
3:16 AM
so, ExecuteScriptCommand can probably get an easily functionally equivalent function
3:16 AM
but as for matching it
3:16 AM
hmmm.. not sure.
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:16 AM
by the way, @Revo did you read on what was found in ROM bank $7D in Pokemon Crystal? (edited)
3:17 AM
not sure if it's in the pokecrystal repo though
3:17 AM
i'll have to go peek
Revo 12/17/2017 3:17 AM
im not familiar with gbz80
3:17 AM
wouldnt be the one to ask
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:18 AM
it was actually some blobs of data
Revo 12/17/2017 3:18 AM
the scary thing is that, if GBA decomp takes off as an underground scene, there could be an even bigger function out there somewhere
3:18 AM
i tend to refer to these as superfunctions, but i know thats not terminology, so whatever
3:18 AM
aka functions bigger than 0x800, because of BL
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:19 AM
some binaries were left in the ROM for whatever reason for testing the Mobile Adapter. They still work, and if you rip them out and serve them to the game, they're legit and the game accepts them
3:19 AM
a video was made to show what the Pokemon News Station looks like with legit game data
3:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmvFT4PLAMQ
Háčky
Pokémon News hidden test data (Pokémon Crystal)
3:20 AM
i was surprised they weren't found while the pokecrystal disassembly was done earlier
Revo 12/17/2017 3:21 AM
probably in their source folder, and the linker put it in the ROM
3:21 AM
or similar
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:21 AM
probably
3:21 AM
and was just left as unidentified
3:21 AM
i can't wait to try getting that working with my cartridge copy
3:21 AM
i'll have to set up a mini web server and see if I can get that working
Revo 12/17/2017 3:22 AM
anyway what I did today was get AGBPrint working (the official SDK library and not third party code to use the print functions)
3:22 AM
with pokeruby
3:22 AM
also, it looks like pokefirered was initialized
3:22 AM
we decompiled the AGBPrint library
eientei 12/17/2017 3:22 AM
@Incineroar https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/master/main.asm#L5659 Bank $7D hasn't been looked at
pret/pokecrystal
pokecrystal - disassembly of Pokémon Crystal
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:24 AM
ah
eientei 12/17/2017 3:32 AM
http://cytu.be/r/tcrf pw: thecuttingroomfloor Going to be watching The Room if anyone's interested
3:33 AM
Requires https://cytu.be/js/cytube-google-drive.user.js
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 3:34 AM
Revo 12/17/2017 3:35 AM
he mispelled "NAHT"
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:39 AM
@eientei well, there are three files that are mentioned there. I'll have to get a hold of the guy that did that and see if I can find how to load them in
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 3:39 AM
rippp
Incineroar 12/17/2017 3:39 AM
it seems there's three blobs there
3:39 AM
I wonder what they all hold
3:41 AM
ah
3:41 AM
that post explores all three of them
3:41 AM
they all are the different .CGB files that are downloaded from the server
3:42 AM
that, or at least what's listed in this text file when it is downloaded from this URL: http://gameboy.datacenter.ne.jp/cgb/download?name=/01/CGB-BXTJ/news/index.txt
Revo 12/17/2017 1:04 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention before
1:04 PM
Although there exists a debug Ruby ROM out there in german
1:04 PM
did you know the retail ROM still has 3 debug menus left in the game
1:05 PM
specifically matsuda debug menu, mori's debug menu, and sogabe's debug menu (the debug ROM indicates who's menu it is)
1:05 PM
we've already decompiled all the functions from these menus, so we know how to actually call them
1:05 PM
they're Menu callbacks
1:06 PM
`// unused const u8 gText_Unused83C9150[] = _("テストです"); // "test" const u8 gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionContestText[] = _("Contest"); const u8 gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionContestResultsText[] = _("Contest results"); // unused const u8 gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionChangePerimeterText[] = _("パラメータへんこう"); // "Change parameter" // unused const u8 gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionChangeMoveText[] = _("わざ へんこう"); // "Change move" const u8 gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionContestCommText[] = _("Contest (comm.)"); const u8 gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionCommTestText[] = _("Init comm. data"); const u8 gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionSetHighScoreText[] = _("Set highest score"); const u8 gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionResetHighScoreText[] = _("Reset highest score"); const u8 gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionSetAllArtMuseumText[] = _("Set all art museum items");`
1:07 PM
`const struct MenuAction gMatsudaDebugMenuActions[] = { {gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionContestText, MatsudaDebugMenu_Contest}, {gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionContestResultsText, MatsudaDebugMenu_ContestResults}, {gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionContestCommText, MatsudaDebugMenu_ContestComm}, {gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionCommTestText, MatsudaDebugMenu_CommTest}, {gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionSetHighScoreText, MatsudaDebugMenu_SetHighScore}, {gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionResetHighScoreText, MatsudaDebugMenu_ResetHighScore}, {gMatsudaDebugMenu_ActionSetAllArtMuseumText, MatsudaDebugMenu_SetArtMuseumItems}, };`
1:07 PM
in the C there's a MenuAction struct which is used for menus like this
1:07 PM
linking a text to a function to execute if its chosen
1:07 PM
usually another menu callback
1:08 PM
`u8 unref_sub_80A9B28(void) { MenuZeroFillScreen(); MenuDrawTextWindow(0, 0, 17, 18); PrintMenuItems(1, 1, 7, gMatsudaDebugMenuActions); InitMenu(0, 1, 1, 7, 0, 16); gCallback_03004AE8 = sub_80A9B78; return 0; }`
1:08 PM
this is the function which init's matsuda debug menu
1:08 PM
its just `MatsudaDebugMenu_InitMenu` but hasnt been renamed yet
1:09 PM
however if you just call this without setting up the menu proper, the menu will be frozen and unusable
1:09 PM
so i would recommend replacing the Exit callback on the menu in a retail ROM if you want to check it out
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 1:12 PM
I would do anything to delve into the code of Ratchet and Clank
Revo 12/17/2017 1:16 PM
most likely off limits as the defacto compiler was a codewarrior suite
1:16 PM
and closed compilers are bad news bears for decomp
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 1:24 PM
This guys linkedin page made extracting RAC data seem like the easiest thing in the entire fucking world
1:25 PM
Lots of data extraction from the shipped disc to a form that was usable on PS3
Revo 12/17/2017 1:25 PM
reverse engineering happens more often in the game industry than you think
1:25 PM
too often game companies lose source code
1:25 PM
so they have to dissassemble their own games to get them in a buildable state again
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 1:26 PM
The Crash Bandicoot source code is sadly lost
Revo 12/17/2017 1:26 PM
this (probably) happened with Pokemon Red/Blue: because there's evidence IDA was used
1:26 PM
in the VC patches
1:26 PM
hell the original Starcraft gold release source was originally lost until some guy found a CD of it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 1:27 PM
This is from the official Insomniac Games discord
Borman 12/17/2017 1:46 PM
Source code also only helps so much sometimes.
Revo 12/17/2017 1:56 PM
i agree, but its better than no code
1:57 PM
compiling old software sucks, too
1:57 PM
so many weird errors that werent errors 10+ years ago
1:57 PM
and changed definitions
1:57 PM
header conflicts
1:57 PM
nasty outdated dependencies
1:57 PM
it suuuuuuucks
Meow 12/17/2017 2:03 PM
Hopefully npz is banned from there.
Revo 12/17/2017 2:04 PM
especially compiling newlib 1.8.0, jesus christ
2:04 PM
1.8.0 is the version the GBA SDK newlib is based off of
2:04 PM
and the GBA SDK... modifies this lib
2:04 PM
it merges some parts of 1.8.1 and 1.8.2
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 2:04 PM
@Meow he is lmao
Meow 12/17/2017 2:04 PM
well fuck their lives
2:04 PM
I'm sure some will want to leave now.
2:05 PM
Also, if going by source code sizes for most games I reckon you're looking at around 500GB for any R&C stuff.
2:06 PM
I know burnout 1/2/3/revenge is 2TB
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 2:07 PM
@Meow i know that the project size for Tools of Destruction was around 1 tb
Meow 12/17/2017 2:07 PM
yeah makes full sense. ghost rider is like 300GB too.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 3:15 PM
Anyways, I contacted the guy who extracted said data and ported it to the PS3
3:15 PM
lets hope i get a response
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/17/2017 4:26 PM
"sorry, im under NDA"
Meow 12/17/2017 4:28 PM
I'm under NDA with nintendo, but I still leaked the first wii builds
Azure 12/17/2017 4:33 PM
not really a thing to brag about
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:35 PM
@Meow Know anything about a Wii Sports build?
4:35 PM
Or rather, a prototype.
Meow 12/17/2017 4:36 PM
sadly not, only seen a few wii builds but no wii sports
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:36 PM
Because we had two kids write about a prototype that we don't know if it even exists.
4:36 PM
They write info about it on Wikia, but there's no evidence it was even linked.
4:37 PM
And when prompted as to where it came from, they mentioned it came from a Japanese blog that they didn't keep the link for.
Nex 12/17/2017 4:37 PM
Wtf
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:37 PM
https://tcrf.net/Talk:Wii_Sports#On_the_.22beta_iso.22_from_ryanskova
Talk:Wii Sports
4:37 PM
One of them constantly re-regged.
4:38 PM
The other did too and we eventually removed their edits altogether because they wouldn't stop making re-regs.
Nex 12/17/2017 4:38 PM
Could be fake or a unleaked build?
Meow 12/17/2017 4:38 PM
I did find evidence of an unreleased nascar game but lol" This is the worst fake prototype I have ever seen"
4:38 PM
"Now listen up here mate, The only thing i falsified was the save game banner as i said, It was not made by me"
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:38 PM
For morbid curiosity, have a look at their page here. http://game-content.wikia.com/wiki/Wii_Sports_Beta
Wii Sports Beta
The Menu Is Quite Different than the final game obviously:P The menu color is purple instead of blue and the music is lower pitched and slower then the final version In the beta iso there are...
4:39 PM
I wrote better than this at 4th grade.
Meow 12/17/2017 4:39 PM
lool
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:39 PM
The only documentation of this is on Wikia.
Revenant 12/17/2017 4:40 PM
obviously:P
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:40 PM
"i found the ISO on some old Japanese website back in April 2017, I Gave it to my friend jimmy, and he had a hard drive corruption and lost it and i deleted it because i thought no one else wanted it (a mistake on my part) but i found another ISO on another site while searching online, it was uploaded sometime in October of 2007 when the one i found in April was uploaded in December of 2006."
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:40 PM
what is this wiki and why am i hurting inside
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:40 PM
This may as well be the video game equivalent of "My dog ate my homework",
4:41 PM
if "My uncle worked at Nintendo" didn't already have that honor.
Meow 12/17/2017 4:41 PM
Just like the killer7 source that was found, accept that was legit
4:42 PM
That reminds me @GameHistoryOrg although I was asked to remove online links (which I did) would you want that as it's still history? it's like 20GB uncompressed but only 2GB or so compressed.
4:43 PM
https://zendimg.com/image/wYhw my bad closer to 3GB
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:44 PM
@skeletonhugger A wiki made by misfits who have no idea how to properly document shit.
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:44 PM
Yeah, I saw the upper link and
4:44 PM
w h y
4:45 PM
there is so much wrong with that "wiki"
4:45 PM
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:45 PM
Not the least being that it's on Wikia.
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:45 PM
Like, why is the other file not uploaded
Meow 12/17/2017 4:45 PM
wow music plays in the game? I never knew this was possible.
4:46 PM
sarcasm
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:46 PM
I like how he supposedly has the stuff, but doesn't upload it because "i have no idea" :c
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:46 PM
"This audio file implies that there was a stage planned for the game involving Tetris but was never finished, Hence the name "BlockStackStage" "
Smoke 12/17/2017 4:46 PM
If it plays in the game, how come it's unused?
Nex 12/17/2017 4:46 PM
`There were no more .bin files for levels, so i think thats about the point where they decided to scarp this game, RIP :(`
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRI_oCFGFWI
Jimmy Kaz
The Truth About The Cutting Room Floor
4:46 PM
Hahlol
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:47 PM
So wait, OoT has blocks
4:47 PM
Game Theory: Ocarina of Time is TETRIS!?
4:47 PM
also I saw his discord on another page
Nex 12/17/2017 4:47 PM
I remember every time I googled tcrf that "epic rant" video came up
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:48 PM
oh my god text-to-speech
Nex 12/17/2017 4:48 PM
Some asshat wanting his review on a article
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:48 PM
Ah yes, that one where JFreedan ranted about us because we removed his review, which mentioned us in a brief blip.
4:48 PM
He also whined about how the description was bare, in spite of the fact videos != good substitute for writing about the game.
Nex 12/17/2017 4:49 PM
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:50 PM
Give JFreedan this. At least he had a decent review and had the balls to appear on-camera.
Nex 12/17/2017 4:50 PM
True dat
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:50 PM
This kid is just lame.
Nex 12/17/2017 4:52 PM
Shame he doesn't deliver as much entertainment as npzman
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:52 PM
Honestly, I think this is more entertaining.
4:52 PM
Well, as entertaining.
Nex 12/17/2017 4:52 PM
But npzman keeps giving lmao
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:53 PM
We have here two kids who have this very dubious prototype and they don't know where it comes from.
4:53 PM
So do these two.
4:53 PM
This channel also has videos of ...
4:53 PM
drumroll
4:53 PM
Loud Nigra The Video Game.
Revenant 12/17/2017 4:53 PM
god why
Nex 12/17/2017 4:53 PM
What
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUplC9g5Clc2PLr293HDPUA/videos
Jimmy Kaz
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:54 PM
Bad SilvaGunner imitations
4:54 PM
Nice
4:54 PM
there's also like 7 "The truth About (...)" videos
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khg3K9dZfzA
Jimmy Kaz
The Truth About Nintendo
Nex 12/17/2017 4:55 PM
Pack it up tcrf, ure exposed
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:56 PM
what is that video
Nex 12/17/2017 4:56 PM
A mistake in the matrix
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:56 PM
Basically a video about how "OMG Nintendo fans are losers and Nintendo are a shit company".
4:56 PM
The pictures are supposed to demonstrate that.
4:56 PM
See also: The video thumbnail
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:56 PM
But
4:56 PM
why
4:57 PM
4:57 PM
he has another channel oh boi
Nex 12/17/2017 4:57 PM
Its comedy at its finest
skeletonhugger 12/17/2017 4:58 PM
you took a bunch of pics and added in some audio
4:58 PM
your creativ (edited)
divingkxt 12/17/2017 4:58 PM
Also, obvious iMovie user is obvious.
Smoke 12/17/2017 5:01 PM
"no one cares what you think of the video, Dont comment if you dont like it, it's a waste of time, time that you could be using to actually do something productive with your life"
5:01 PM
Then don't reply if you don't like what I say
5:01 PM
Simple
Nex 12/17/2017 5:02 PM
Kid went instantly to rage mode (edited)
divingkxt 12/17/2017 5:13 PM
Heh, Jimmy deleted Smoke's comment.
Smoke 12/17/2017 5:13 PM
They're trying to censor me
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punk7890 12/17/2017 5:14 PM
what's happening
Smoke 12/17/2017 5:14 PM
Another "rant video"
punk7890 12/17/2017 5:14 PM
hmm
divingkxt 12/17/2017 5:14 PM
punk7890: Read above.
5:15 PM
tl;dr Two kids got banned for posting dubious shit on Wii Sports (including a prototype we don't know if it's real or not),
5:15 PM
they got made at us and made their own spin-off wiki on Wikia,
punk7890 12/17/2017 5:15 PM
oh that stuff yeah I remember seeing that at the time it was posted on tcrf
divingkxt 12/17/2017 5:15 PM
and one of them made a rant video complete with text-to-speech.
punk7890 12/17/2017 5:15 PM
wow
Huks 12/17/2017 5:25 PM
Obsessed kids with way too much free time can come up with the weirdest fake shit on the internet
5:28 PM
There are communities out there dedicated to making fake VHS opening videos on GoAnimate of all things
5:28 PM
It boggles the mind
divingkxt 12/17/2017 5:34 PM
Well...
5:34 PM
The thing is that GoAnimate people are largely young children.
5:34 PM
Who pretty much base their vids off of whatever they see on their front page,
5:34 PM
including stuff suggested to them by YT based on algorithms.
5:36 PM
Sure, GoAnimate claims that you can use it for business, but the reality is that it's largely a young childrens' thing.
General Instrument CP1610 1979 12/17/2017 5:42 PM
They got rid of everything that isn't the genric content years ago, actually.
5:42 PM
Apprentlly Alvin Hung (The creator of the program) flat out loathes the fact his program turned into what it was.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 5:43 PM
3
divingkxt 12/17/2017 5:43 PM
There's loads of VHS openings on YT for whatever reason.
5:43 PM
Part of it is nostalgia, but not all of it.
5:43 PM
It's all the sheer amount of VHS openings.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 5:43 PM
divingkxt 12/17/2017 5:45 PM
And Calliou? Loads of videos on him on YT.
5:45 PM
Helped by the really low budget and effort on the show.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 5:46 PM
*cayloo
divingkxt 12/17/2017 5:46 PM
And Canadian laws on media.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 5:46 PM
divingkxt 12/17/2017 5:46 PM
Where a NW must air X amount of Canadian content.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 5:46 PM
oof
divingkxt 12/17/2017 5:46 PM
Teletoon may be one of the most egregious examples.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 5:47 PM
mfw johnny test(icles)
divingkxt 12/17/2017 6:05 PM
Oh, and about that 'rant' vid Jimmy Kaz made.
6:05 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:Ryanskova
User:Ryanskova
6:06 PM
Notice how he conveniently cut off the list from the video.
Nex 12/17/2017 6:06 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/17/2017 6:10 PM
wii sports truly the most relevant game
6:10 PM
at least it isnt Mario's Factory from SMRPG
6:10 PM
that was a good meme
General Instrument CP1610 1979 12/17/2017 6:27 PM
I remember when the wiki had an article for a non-existent I.M Meen sequel for about a year.
divingkxt 12/17/2017 6:32 PM
"I like to make pages on games not yet released."
6:32 PM

- https://tcrf.net/Special:Contributions/Therevealer2

Therevealer2
6:32 PM
I.M. Meen 2 was up for a couple of months, then deleted.
6:32 PM
The author never responded if the game was real or not.
6:33 PM
Turns out it was real, but a crappy GameMaker-made game about YTP memes we didn't give one single care about.
6:33 PM
We wouldn't have allowed a page on it even then.
General Instrument CP1610 1979 12/17/2017 6:33 PM
Holy shit what a twist
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 6:34 PM
after IM Meen 2 got cancelled, he went on to sell Brand X in foodfight
divingkxt 12/17/2017 6:35 PM
OMG, the whole thing is on YT.
6:35 PM
I'll get a stream up for it on CyTube.
6:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81uIhu8qrrs
ScrewWatermarks
Foodfight! Trailer
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 6:35 PM
6:35 PM
divingkxt 12/17/2017 6:36 PM
That's the 2002 trailer.
6:36 PM
Compared to the final film, it looks better, though still not refined.
6:36 PM
Note the Weird Al-esque cover. (Not sure if that is Weird Al or not)
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 7:47 PM
looks up wat
divingkxt 12/17/2017 8:17 PM
@Hâlian (ping in replies) Yeah...it's a long story.
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 8:23 PM
I see
divingkxt 12/17/2017 8:24 PM
But yeah, some Wii sports prototype that doesn't appear to exist had a page made for it.
8:24 PM
The kids behind it got angry.
Deleted User 12/17/2017 8:30 PM
*kid
divingkxt 12/17/2017 8:31 PM
Yeah, Jimmy Kaz/Ryanskova is pretending to be multiple people.
Meow 12/17/2017 8:40 PM
Is there an iso if the "so called" prototype?
8:40 PM
there's ways to check
divingkxt 12/17/2017 8:40 PM
You can check with him personally, as he does have a Discord account.
8:41 PM
ryanskova#0509
Meow 12/17/2017 8:45 PM
yeah na I don't add people I barely have time to talk as it is without private chats too
divingkxt 12/17/2017 8:46 PM
I might have found a Japanese ISO site, but I'm not sure if that's the site in question.
Meow 12/17/2017 8:49 PM
8:49 PM
look at the image again, it's shopped lol
8:50 PM
divingkxt 12/17/2017 8:50 PM
Or at the least a hacked copy.
8:50 PM
Making them even less credible than they already are.
Meow 12/17/2017 8:51 PM
yup
Deleted User 12/17/2017 8:52 PM
the person is known to do game modding
8:53 PM
so, no thanks.
Meow 12/17/2017 8:53 PM
that too
divingkxt 12/17/2017 8:58 PM
And their YT channel is pure cringe.
Meow 12/17/2017 9:04 PM
Interesting there's a link to "RPTangScene" on some file hosting site. although Im not gonna download as it's likely a trojan (edited)
9:08 PM
http://game-content.wikia.com/wiki/Game_Content_Wiki
Game Content Wiki
Tired of Getting your edits taken down by the "The Cutting Room Floor" admins? then this is the right site for you!, This is the#1 Alternative/soon will be! Created By ryanskova and Jimmy Kaz Audio
9:08 PM
"Tired of Getting your edits taken down by the "The Cutting Room Floor" admins? then this is the right site for you!, This is the #1 Alternative/soon will be! Created By Ryanskova and Jimmy Kaz " @Xkeeper
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 9:09 PM
>wikia
9:09 PM
this is gonna be good
Smoke 12/17/2017 9:09 PM
@Meow http://better-than-tcrf.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Main Page
along everything is the same thing as The Cutting Room Floor. but since i got banned. i created this... Chazpelo/RoPeloChaz. 18 November 2015 Welcome to The Unused Thing Wikia. 1 articles and...
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:09 PM
You people should look at the edit history of the Silent Hill Wiki.
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 9:09 PM
oh god
9:09 PM
i remember that
9:09 PM
incredible
Meow 12/17/2017 9:09 PM
lmfao
divingkxt 12/17/2017 9:09 PM
MRMIdAS2k: SILENT HILL IS ABOUT CIRCUMSION'S EVILS! (edited)
Meow 12/17/2017 9:10 PM
http://better-than-tcrf.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity fucking lolz
Special:WikiActivity
Recent Wiki Activity | Unused Thing Wikia | FANDOM powered by Wikia
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:10 PM
@divingkxt mostly. And incest.
9:11 PM
Everything is circumcision and/or foreskins.
divingkxt 12/17/2017 9:12 PM
Yeah, that's plenty of crap on Wikia as is.
9:12 PM
And yeah... that's why ShoutWiki is better.
9:13 PM
The other way is to host your own wiki, which is probably more worth it honestly.
Meow 12/17/2017 9:13 PM
Btw, I highly doubt anybody has it but does anybody have the Sonic 4 PS3 build? seems to have been lost.
9:14 PM
the beta one that leaked in japan I think
9:14 PM
already got the 360/wii one's an the episode 2 beta but not the ps3 one
9:15 PM
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I (Sony QA Network prototype) this one ha
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:16 PM
Not seen it, but I'm hardly one for newer protos and leaks and stuff.
Meow 12/17/2017 9:16 PM
I archive anything I can ha. there's so many missing leaks
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:17 PM
Wish people like you were around for stuff in the early 90's.
9:17 PM
Eother way, you're doing great work.
Meow 12/17/2017 9:17 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/wanted-lost-beta-releases.22500/
WANTED: lost beta releases!
Me and @ehw have been trying to obtain many lost releases for the HiddenPalace and Prototopia v2 archive the past few weeks. While we've found loads...
9:17 PM
here's my list
divingkxt 12/17/2017 9:18 PM
Speaking of which, when will Hidden Palace finally finish that update?
Meow 12/17/2017 9:18 PM
no clue
old acc! inactive 12/17/2017 9:19 PM
lmao
9:19 PM
that wii sports beta page is a fucking mess
9:19 PM
they even put mii plaza music in there
9:19 PM
and branded it off as a "tetris stage" music
Meow 12/17/2017 9:19 PM
https://zendimg.com/image/wyJ2 lulz
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:19 PM
I used to have the betas of WWF Attitude and Smackdown 1 & 2. Unfortunately, they've been lost to ignorance and neglect. :( so gutted, cos I'd love to have them now. (edited)
Meow 12/17/2017 9:21 PM
damn there's so much that's lost, I found someone with the only known Sonic Generations PSP alpha build from 2009.. the disk was fucked beyond use. even a data recovery company had no luck saving it
9:21 PM
02:20 Demon Hey @DRX @EHW people on TCRF's discord are asking when HiddenPalace will be back online? 02:20 drx lol 02:20 drx <drx> the server people are taking their sweet time to swap the IPs 02:20 drx i'll try to figure something out today 02:20 drx in the mean time
Revo 12/17/2017 9:23 PM
As of today one of pokeruby's "superfunctions" was matched without hacks it was a function in `contest.c`
9:23 PM
another one
9:24 PM
0x1610 in size
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:25 PM
I don't think there was much lost from Attitude, it was literally ironing out bugs, like not being able to win cage matches, amd Irish whips not being perfect in relation to the ropes, no old chars or music. Smackdown 1 was ok, mostly balanced, the Jacknife powerbomb could KO ypu as a regular move, and the one handed chokeslam didn't fit in the move name box. Smackdown 2 worked fine, but season crashed 3 months in. So only a couple of unlocks, no idea if it was deliberate or if the characters didn't exist.
Revo 12/17/2017 9:25 PM
specifically `sub_80AC2CC`
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:26 PM
So shit they planned for event or contest unlocks?
Revo 12/17/2017 9:26 PM
no, its one of the huge switch functions used to execute contest logic in Pokemon gen 3
9:26 PM
said huge function is just a giant switch
9:27 PM
3rd largest function in the repository
9:27 PM
we matched it just now without hacks
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:27 PM
Ah, ok, not too familiar with pokemon in any respect.
Revo 12/17/2017 9:27 PM
in the decompilation project
9:27 PM
we figured out the correct C to write which produces matching assembly
9:28 PM
we already have 1st and 2nd largest functions matching
9:28 PM
so this was next on the chopping list
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:28 PM
Either way, wow, stuff like that is incredible.
Revo 12/17/2017 9:28 PM
pretty much most of gen 3's "superfunctions" are just huge switches
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:29 PM
Doesn't surprise me. From what I hear, they tried to code it as easy as possible after all the gubbins with gen 1
Revo 12/17/2017 9:29 PM
i think game freak just wanted to get as far away from assembly as possible
9:29 PM
too easy to make mistakes
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:31 PM
Yep, can't blame them. It's why I love Red Alert 2, stuff is in plain text, you wanna make stuff harder to kill, make the number higher, plain text. Lol (edited)
divingkxt 12/17/2017 9:37 PM
Switches, switches, roly-poly switches
Xkeeper 12/17/2017 9:39 PM
i wonder how many "better than tcrf" wikis there are now.
MRMIdAS2k 12/17/2017 9:39 PM
About the same that are ready for a "false advertising" lawsuit.
eientei 12/17/2017 10:08 PM
@Xkeeper Well, there's tcrf.net. That seems to be the most popular "better than tcrf" wiki
divingkxt 12/17/2017 10:11 PM
Revo 12/17/2017 10:25 PM
`void AGBAssert(const char *pFile, int nLine, const char *pExpression, int nStopProgram) { if (nStopProgram) { AGBPrintf("ASSERTION FAILED FILE=[%s] LINE=[%d] EXP=[%s] \n", pFile, nLine, pExpression); AGBPrintFlush(); asm(".hword 0xEFFF"); } else { AGBPrintf("WARING FILE=[%s] LINE=[%d] EXP=[%s] \n", pFile, nLine, pExpression); } }` i really like how Nintendo mispelled warning
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 10:26 PM
@everyone Quick heads up (and I'm sorry for the ping but this is important) - If you or anybody else gets .onion (AKA Dark Web) links in your DMs, report it to the mods immediately, in addition to Discord and the police. Many users of another server I'm in got these deep web links in their inboxes, all of which led to CP sites. I'm not entirely sure what other servers the people sending .onion links have appeared in, but the ones I encountered had blank usernames. Please make sure to spread the word to other servers that you are in. Everyone needs to be aware of this. Report it at abuse@discordapp.com. (edited)
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CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 10:26 PM
Deleted User 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
o7
Dezent 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
Oh dear
10:27 PM
Will do (edited)
Revo 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
actually important everyone ping
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
christ
Deleted User 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
finally, a meaningful everyone ping
Revo 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
well done
Sneaker 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
Oh gross
Deleted User 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
qqqq 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
Who the fuck PMs people links to cp
Halfbit 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
Oh god
qqqq 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
Do they have a death wish
10:27 PM
Or like
Laenthor 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
oh wtf
punk7890 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
weird
qqqq 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
Just a wish to go to prison
Rena 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
Fuckos
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
god this is why i have dms disabled for almost every server i'm in
Meow 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
oh crap I'll put a notice on AG/OG etc now
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:27 PM
well, not specifically why
Biscuiteer 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
thanks for the tip, shoop
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
but it's a damn fine justification in hindsight
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
[9:23 PM] ProjectRevoTPP: As of today one of pokeruby's "superfunctions" was matched without hacks it was a function in contest.c
10:28 PM
also >WARING
Hendricks266 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
I'll be a pedant and say you mean the "dark web". The "deep web" refers to stuff behind paywalls like scientific journals and newspaper archives.
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qqqq 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
The fuck
Laenthor 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
You should tag that in the #welcome
punk7890 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
is there a way to report that to the discord owners?
Revo 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
did you know Game Freak accidentally left the AGBAssert sdk library in Fire Red/Leaf Green by accident?
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
I did not
10:28 PM
I'm not even sure what the AGBAssert SDK library does ._.
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
:O?
divingkxt 12/17/2017 10:28 PM
Hah, that's actually pretty interesting.
Revo 12/17/2017 10:29 PM
there's a bunch of leftover asserts in the source.
Dezent 12/17/2017 10:29 PM
If by discord owners you mean the company behind Discord @punk7890, abuse@discordapp.com
Revo 12/17/2017 10:29 PM
`$ git grep "AGBAssert" asm/cereader_tool.s: bl AGBAssert asm/cereader_tool.s: bl AGBAssert asm/field_specials.s: bl AGBAssert asm/fieldmap.s: bl AGBAssert asm/link_rfu_2.s: bl AGBAssert asm/link_rfu_2.s: bl AGBAssert asm/link_rfu_3.s: bl AGBAssert asm/link_rfu_3.s: bl AGBAssert asm/link_rfu_3.s: bl AGBAssert asm/link_rfu_3.s: bl AGBAssert asm/link_rfu_3.s: bl AGBAssert asm/link_rfu_3.s: bl AGBAssert asm/link_rfu_3.s: bl AGBAssert asm/malloc.s: bl AGBAssert asm/malloc.s: bl AGBAssert asm/malloc.s: bl AGBAssert asm/malloc.s: bl AGBAssert asm/malloc.s: bl AGBAssert asm/malloc.s: bl AGBAssert asm/map_obj_80688E4.s: bl AGBAssert asm/menews_jisan.s: bl AGBAssert asm/mevent.s: bl AGBAssert asm/mevent.s: bl AGBAssert asm/mevent.s: bl AGBAssert asm/mevent.s: bl AGBAssert ...`
Deleted User 12/17/2017 10:29 PM
.onion?
10:29 PM
WHY NOT ONION RINGS?
10:29 PM
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_2_XL
Sonic 2 XL
divingkxt 12/17/2017 10:29 PM
AGBAssert is a series of libraries for doing assertion messages on the AGB, which are printed onto a console for devs to look at.
10:29 PM
Usually if something goes horribly wrong.
Revo 12/17/2017 10:30 PM
yes, there's a debugger GBA unit which has a designated special memory area: debug functions use this area, which wont work on a normal GBA
10:30 PM
it's a form of error reporting
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:30 PM
Ahh
Revo 12/17/2017 10:30 PM
for example
10:30 PM
`... switch ((int)action) { case NEW_GAME: default: gPlttBufferUnfaded[0] = 0; gPlttBufferFaded[0] = 0; gTasks[taskId].func = Task_NewGameSpeech1; break; case CONTINUE: AGBPrint("Game started.\n"); gPlttBufferUnfaded[0] = 0; gPlttBufferFaded[0] = 0; SetMainCallback2(CB2_ContinueSavedGame); AGBPrintFlush(); DestroyTask(taskId); break; case OPTION: gMain.savedCallback = CB2_InitMainMenuFromOptions; SetMainCallback2(CB2_InitOptionMenu); DestroyTask(taskId); break; case MYSTERY_EVENTS: SetMainCallback2(CB2_InitMysteryEventMenu); DestroyTask(taskId); break; } AGB_ASSERT(action != OPTION); }`
10:30 PM
i added this
10:30 PM
in the menu, i select option
10:30 PM
`Game started. ASSERTION FAILED FILE=[src/engine/main_menu.c] LINE=[606] EXP=[action != OPTION]`
10:30 PM
in the VBA logger window
10:30 PM
so it does work
10:31 PM
when you use an assert, the compiler generates ascii strings to put into .rodata
10:31 PM
the assert leftovers in FR/LG?
10:31 PM
thats what those are
10:31 PM
its not unused
eientei 12/17/2017 10:32 PM
@Revo Where in memory is this special memory area?
Revo 12/17/2017 10:32 PM
`#define AGB_PRINT_FLUSH_ADDR 0x9FE209D #define AGB_PRINT_STRUCT_ADDR 0x9FE20F8 #define AGB_PRINT_PROTECT_ADDR 0x9FE2FFE #define WSCNT_DATA (WAITCNT_PHI_OUT_16MHZ | WAITCNT_WS0_S_2 | WAITCNT_WS0_N_4) struct AGBPrintStruct { u16 m_nRequest; u16 m_nBank; u16 m_nGet; u16 m_nPut; }; typedef void (*LPFN_PRINT_FLUSH)(void);`
10:32 PM
`void AGBPrintInit(void) { volatile struct AGBPrintStruct *pPrint = (struct AGBPrintStruct *)AGB_PRINT_STRUCT_ADDR; u16 *pWSCNT = (u16 *)REG_ADDR_WAITCNT; u16 *pProtect = (u16 *)AGB_PRINT_PROTECT_ADDR; u16 nOldWSCNT = *pWSCNT; *pWSCNT = WSCNT_DATA; *pProtect = 0x20; pPrint->m_nRequest = pPrint->m_nGet = pPrint->m_nPut = 0; pPrint->m_nBank = 0xFD; *pProtect = 0; *pWSCNT = nOldWSCNT; }`
10:33 PM
to answer your question, `0x9FE20F8`
10:33 PM
just shy of the GBA cart limit
10:33 PM
by design
10:33 PM
the mapper redirects to the debugger area on a debugger unit, IIRC
10:33 PM
dont quote me on that
eientei 12/17/2017 10:34 PM
Hm
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:34 PM
“`0x9FE'20F8`, just shy of the GBA cart limit by design. The mapper redirects to the debugger area on a debugger unit, if I recall correctly.” —ProjectRevoTPP
10:34 PM
Kappa
eientei 12/17/2017 10:34 PM
Also would like to know why Justice League Chronicles tries to write to 0x10000000 to 0xffffffff
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:34 PM
Maybe to detect copiers or something?
Revo 12/17/2017 10:35 PM
could be an anti-emulation trick
10:35 PM
remember all the crazy stuff that NES Classic does
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:35 PM
Fair
10:35 PM
@Revo Refresh me, please?
Revo 12/17/2017 10:35 PM
https://mgba.io/2014/12/28/classic-nes/
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:35 PM
Thanks
10:36 PM
“From a GBA emulation perspective, the games were especially interesting. The average Game Boy Advance game is extremely buggy, and the platform itself contains a number of safeguards to prevent games from crashing.” The joys of forced bug-compatibility, amirite
Revo 12/17/2017 10:36 PM
lady sia bug is still a mystery
10:36 PM
if the game is in C, i'd like to decompile that to find more about that bug
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:37 PM
damn
Revo 12/17/2017 10:37 PM
though its likely not.
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:37 PM
`I’m not really sure why Nintendo went all out with these games, considering that these are just ports of NES games.`
10:37 PM
i'm just spitballing here
10:37 PM
but maybe it was just for fun
10:37 PM
i mean when you're porting a nes game you're not exactly doing all that much anymore
10:37 PM
so why not give yourself a little extra challenge by going full antipiracy or something
10:37 PM
idk
10:38 PM
really stupid guess
10:38 PM
but it's fun to dream
Revo 12/17/2017 10:38 PM
i once devied an absolutely evil form of anti-cheat for a specific check in a rom hack
10:38 PM
though it was never implemented
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:38 PM
:O?
Revo 12/17/2017 10:38 PM
from what i kept analyzing ways around it, the only way was code injection or straight up patching the ROM
10:38 PM
let me see if i can dig it up
10:39 PM
it was a hypothetical cheat detection for Pokemon Clover, or rather, an improved version of the detection
10:41 PM
`you could also have the position of rare Candy counter depend in save block on the Random() value per frame so you could verify (anti-idiot that is) that the counter wasnt frozen via a game shark code, because if you do that, then Random() checksum wont match up with where its supposed to be but again, anti-idiot like, theres an array where the counter is somewhere in there and the rest is generated garbage depending on it like, Random() % COUNTER_POS where COUNTER_POS is the # of array values rareCandyArr[gRngValue % COUNTER_POS] so calling Random() doesnt increment it specifically generate random values over 30 for all the garbage slots: this is because if you use a gameshark code to freeze the whole array to be 0, the game can actually figure out if you modified the array and still call you a cheater all values but 1 should be over 30 like i said earlier, theres so many ways to make a cheater's life a living hell but its still technically anti-idiot so, when the cheat call is activated, it tries an attempt at updating the array. this is because it calls Random(), which increments RNG, which then RngValue is used to store the arr. so, once the update is complete, it then performs the check on rareCandyArr[] 1. are all values in the array except 1 over 30? 2. is the value of rareCandyArr[gRngValue % COUNTER_POS] 30 or under? the player has not cheated. otherwise, the player DID cheat: most likely gamesharking the arr to be static value, which means Rng will not line up most of the time. its quite evil :smirk: you can then just check to see if Random() actually updates Rng at all cause if it doesnt, it means player froze RNG via gameshark i think thats almost pretty bulletproof unless you start using code injection via gameshark to straight up disable the check then there really isnt anything you can do`
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:41 PM
`[10:36 PM] ProjectRevoTPP: lady sia bug is still a mystery` vweh?
10:42 PM
also, *devised
Revo 12/17/2017 10:42 PM
success rate is fairly high at confusing the shit out of anyone who tries to circumvent this, depending on implementation
10:42 PM
not that it cant be done obviously
divingkxt 12/17/2017 10:42 PM
https://mgba.io/2017/05/29/holy-grail-bugs/#lady-sia
Revo 12/17/2017 10:42 PM
its only anti-idiot
10:42 PM
all prevention measures are
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:42 PM
@divingkxt thanks :x
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:43 PM
o wow
Revo 12/17/2017 10:44 PM
the only way to circumvent said hypothetical cheat system like i said I think is to either use codes to inject new instructions or straight patch the ROM
10:44 PM
to my knowledge.
10:44 PM
could be wrong
10:44 PM
i was just writing up how to be a dick to script kiddies
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:45 PM
i take it you could be even dickier and throw in a few security measures to detect if this functionality's been patched out?
Deleted User 12/17/2017 10:45 PM
onion links???
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:45 PM
theoretically anyway
10:45 PM
not saying you actually should
10:45 PM
though it would be hilarious
10:45 PM
go full spyro 3 on them
Revo 12/17/2017 10:45 PM
right, it never got implemented, but the topic was on how "pathetic" Pokemon Clover's anti cheat system was
10:45 PM
so i tried to go above and beyond in being an asshole
divingkxt 12/17/2017 10:45 PM
@qqqq Word filters
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 10:46 PM
o ok
Revo 12/17/2017 10:48 PM
so if the onion DM happens, report it to admins here and discord@abuse.info or whatever? im not sure i should be calling local police over something like that?
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:49 PM
abuse@discordapp.com
Revo 12/17/2017 10:49 PM
yeah
emma ミ☆ 12/17/2017 10:50 PM
why are we believeing this cancer
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 10:50 PM
qqqq 12/17/2017 10:52 PM
Alright then here
Xkeeper 12/17/2017 10:52 PM
@qqqq because the word you were trying to use is a slur. "fuck" is just an expletive.
qqqq 12/17/2017 10:52 PM
If you're clicking on random onion links you probably deserve whatever scarring you got
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 10:53 PM
It seems weird that these people would target a server of 170 people dedicated to a show about a blue cat and talking goldfish
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:54 PM
Eh?
divingkxt 12/17/2017 10:55 PM
They attacked a Gumball fan discord and spammed users with NSFL onion links.
Flygon 12/17/2017 10:55 PM
Oh dear.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/17/2017 10:55 PM
read the pins for more info
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 10:57 PM
Oh
10:57 PM
For some reason I didn't make that connection (probably because I've never watched Gumball) (edited)
10:57 PM
My brain immediately went to Chowder but Chowder is purple and I don't remember a goldfish character
Smoke 12/17/2017 11:00 PM
I did that when I was told we were having chicken enchiladas, I was thinking of chicken quesadillas
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 11:00 PM
Heh
Gamma 12/17/2017 11:07 PM
That is trippy
eientei 12/17/2017 11:07 PM
Oh hey @Gamma o/
Gamma 12/17/2017 11:07 PM
yoo
Deleted User 12/17/2017 11:12 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 at least it wasnt a .onion link to gore that was sent you. Yeah......... That was my worst moment in my life.
Vague Rant 12/17/2017 11:13 PM
I don't understand the deep web, can anybody just click on .onion links and see what's in them?
11:13 PM
I thought you had to already be a Tor user.
divingkxt 12/17/2017 11:13 PM
It requires a specific browser.
Deleted User 12/17/2017 11:13 PM
You have to have Tor
11:14 PM
They are specifically designed to only be operated by browsers like Tor
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 11:14 PM
@Vague Rant Dark web*
11:14 PM
Deep web refers to stuff that's on the conventional WWW but not indexed by search engines.
Deleted User 12/17/2017 11:15 PM
Is it okay to show an example of a .onion page by screenshotting the facebook site?
11:15 PM
Snowden uses it
11:15 PM
It was supposed to circumvent censorship but ended up being a source of internet crime
11:15 PM
.onion sites
Revenant 12/17/2017 11:16 PM
just change .onion to .onion.to to use a gateway instead of having to install trash on your computer
Deleted User 12/17/2017 11:16 PM
True
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 11:16 PM
`It was supposed to (x) but ended up being a source of (y) crime` (edited)
11:16 PM
the history of humanity
Revo 12/17/2017 11:16 PM
a onion link requires a specific browser as it needs the Tor protocol to access
Gamma 12/17/2017 11:17 PM
lol
Deleted User 12/17/2017 11:18 PM
Though watch this @Revo
11:19 PM
I use it for the .onion of duckduckgo
punk7890 12/17/2017 11:23 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/942610989144350720 Found all debug model viewing options in the Shin Megami Tensei games now. Pretty sure Persona 4 doesn't have it but I'll check sometime.
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon debug model viewing option. That should be all megami games covered now that have this debug option in them. I'll add it to TCRF soon.
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/17/2017 11:28 PM
Nice
Laenthor 12/17/2017 11:49 PM
Don't know how I didn't notice this after having played this so many times XD
Gamma 12/17/2017 11:50 PM
but Hagrid's nowhere near this scene in the book
ƒluƒƒу 12/17/2017 11:50 PM
clearly this is how the ministry of magic saw everything all along
11:50 PM
spies
11:50 PM
really big really obvious really recognisable spies
11:50 PM
foolproof!
Laenthor 12/18/2017 12:04 AM
Apparently ron is also down there but the fence hides him
12:04 AM
They're just... There XD
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:05 AM
Maybe leftovers from a game for the first book?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 12:05 AM
Nope, these models are used in-game but they litterally had no reason to be in this map
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:05 AM
I see
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 12:06 AM
would the first game have even had a dursley house map?
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:06 AM
Maybe they put Hagrid in there on accident but never removed him
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 12:06 AM
i recall some versions of the game understnadably skipping that part entirely
Laenthor 12/18/2017 12:06 AM
I might get why ron is there (maybe he was supposed to be in the car), but hagrid has no reason to be there
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:06 AM
yeah
Laenthor 12/18/2017 12:06 AM
So that's incredibly weird
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:07 AM
Maybe someone was thinking about the first book, and was like, "Who do we need in this scene? Oh well, let's put Ron, the Anglia, Hedwig, Hagrid..."
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 12:07 AM
abandoned minigame: `Spot The Hagrids`
Laenthor 12/18/2017 12:07 AM
Hedwig flies by the logo at first but then freezes in the sky
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:07 AM
hah
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 12:07 AM
cut when they realised hey, dude is super easy to spot
Laenthor 12/18/2017 12:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9z-jb5IUJk 0:55
zelgadis115
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets PC 100% Walkthrough - Part 1: Womping Willow
12:10 AM
It's super obvious now XD
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:10 AM
That's actually in the game?
12:10 AM
I mean, normally visible?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 12:10 AM
Yeah
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:10 AM
hm
Laenthor 12/18/2017 12:11 AM
Just a massive oversight apparently
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:11 AM
Maybe an easter egg?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 12:11 AM
Definitely not XD
12:15 AM
Accurate
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:15 AM
agree
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 12:17 AM
same
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 12:18 AM
ps1 hagrid is everywhere with no reason to be and he's understandably miserable every moment of it
12:18 AM
dude wants a goddamn rest
Video 12/18/2017 12:20 AM
MW2 Unused Image: Lee Enfield HUD Icon
12:21 AM
Another MW2 Unused Image: default.iwi (Fallback image)
12:21 AM
12:23 AM
MW2 Potentially Unused Image: hud_shotgun.iwi
12:24 AM
MW2 Potentially Unused Image: hint_health.iwi
Revo 12/18/2017 12:30 AM
so you guys, remember this? `C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/gflib/malloc.c 0 p != NULL pos->magic_number == MALLOC_SYSTEM_ID pos->flag == TRUE pos->next->magic_number == MALLOC_SYSTEM_ID pos->prev->magic_number == MALLOC_SYSTEM_ID`
12:30 AM
i figured out whats going on here
12:31 AM
when you have multiple asserts, it puts stuff into rodata, lets look at an example:
12:31 AM
`AGB_ASSERT(action != OPTION); AGB_ASSERT(taskId == 0); AGB_ASSERT(action > 4);`
12:31 AM
in main_menu.c
12:31 AM
now look at how it packed the rodata
12:31 AM
`.LC61: .ascii "src/engine/main_menu.c\000" .align 2, 0 .LC63: .ascii "action != OPTION\000" .align 2, 0 .LC65: .ascii "taskId == 0\000" .align 2, 0 .LC67: .ascii "action > 4\000" .text` (edited)
12:32 AM
file path, then conditions (there's a weird 0 but might be weird align.)
12:32 AM
so this cooresponds to malloc's rodata
12:32 AM
where there's a series of asserts which generates that
Revo 12/18/2017 12:42 AM
so thats how that section was compiled
12:42 AM
it's just malloc.c's rodata
12:42 AM
same with the other file
12:42 AM
`Hmmm... To do: There's more source paths, and more interesting text.`
12:42 AM
you bet there is
12:43 AM
every file i showed earlier that has AGBAssert has these paths
12:43 AM
in their rodata
12:45 AM
`WARING FILE=[src/engine/main_menu.c] LINE=[606] EXP=[action != OPTION]`
12:45 AM
lol, still cant get over that...
Revenant 12/18/2017 12:46 AM
waring?
12:46 AM
like the appliance company
Revo 12/18/2017 12:46 AM
its a typo in the decompiled matching assert code
12:46 AM
we decompiled the assert SDK library into matching code
12:46 AM
there's a typo lol
Revenant 12/18/2017 12:47 AM
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:47 AM
just like "tremoro" in TWW's map file, and "faily"
Revo 12/18/2017 12:47 AM
`void AGBAssert(const char *pFile, int nLine, const char *pExpression, int nStopProgram) { if (nStopProgram) { AGBPrintf("ASSERTION FAILED FILE=[%s] LINE=[%d] EXP=[%s] \n", pFile, nLine, pExpression); AGBPrintFlush(); asm(".hword 0xEFFF"); } else { AGBPrintf("WARING FILE=[%s] LINE=[%d] EXP=[%s] \n", pFile, nLine, pExpression); } }`
12:47 AM
curiously `AGBPrintf` is the only function in all the games to use a `bx r3`
12:47 AM
varargs for some reason cause the weird return
12:47 AM
i prefer to think its because of the stack frame, but i dont really know
12:49 AM
curiously, a warning does not immediately print
12:49 AM
where as an assert does
12:50 AM
`AGBPrintFlush();` is what "flushes" the recent print buffer to the intended PC display for print
Revenant 12/18/2017 12:50 AM
assuming they jsut forgot to flush the output in both cases
Revo 12/18/2017 12:50 AM
no, actually
12:50 AM
i have a better theory than that
12:50 AM
its intentional.
12:50 AM
the reason is because if there's a bunch of warnings in the same frame it slows the GBA to a crawl
12:51 AM
so it assumes the programmer is responsible for handling when warnings are print
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:51 AM
Ahhh
Revo 12/18/2017 12:51 AM
an assert is safe to print immediately
12:51 AM
this is because it hangs right after
Gamma 12/18/2017 12:51 AM
So it doesn't print the warnings until an exception occurs
Revo 12/18/2017 12:51 AM
and because they dont want you modifying this code
12:51 AM
it shifts responsibility to you
12:51 AM
for flushing warnings
leilei 12/18/2017 1:11 AM
i have already only allowed dms from friends because of a similar incident on discord last year
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 1:21 AM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/18/2017 1:22 AM
punk7890 12/18/2017 1:23 AM
@Xkeeper is that guy still messaging you?
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 1:23 AM
yes. in fact he said he is going to sell hsi prototype for a whole sixty united states american dollars.
1:23 AM
and he has five hundred followers and is very important
divingkxt 12/18/2017 1:23 AM
Actually, 200.
punk7890 12/18/2017 1:23 AM
divingkxt 12/18/2017 1:23 AM
And declining.
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 1:23 AM
oh right.
1:23 AM
i laughed at him because i have about 2000 and then i said "also nobody fucking cares"
Dezent 12/18/2017 1:25 AM
1:25 AM
I see he is still angery
Laenthor 12/18/2017 1:27 AM
I just found his dad XD
Dezent 12/18/2017 1:30 AM
Pffff, 10/10
1:31 AM
This is his mother
Meow 12/18/2017 1:38 AM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/ratchet-clank-size-matters-dec-20-2006.23573/ @Xkeeper thanks @CELL Broadband Engine 2006
PSP - Ratchet & Clank - Size Matters (Dec 20, 2006)
This build was recently leaked by someone upset at a certain scammer who is trying to profit, so I'm reposting it here. The beta isn't as rare as made...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/18/2017 1:39 AM
1:39 AM
Nex 12/18/2017 1:40 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 1:42 AM
he's asking me to take it down
Dezent 12/18/2017 1:43 AM
topkek
Nex 12/18/2017 1:46 AM
His tweets are top kek rn
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/18/2017 1:47 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 1:47 AM
lol wut?
1:47 AM
no it isn't
1:47 AM
jesus this kids fucked in the head
Nex 12/18/2017 1:48 AM
Wtf
1:48 AM
1:50 AM
It against discords terms of service to threaten people
Dezent 12/18/2017 1:51 AM
I uh
1:51 AM
what
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:00 AM
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 2:01 AM
What the fuck is this guy smoking
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgOjG5xlqa0
SUPERSKRAT
Undertale OST: Dog Song (Dunked On Version) 10 Hours HQ
2:01 AM
a good video
2:02 AM
especially for this clown
2:03 AM
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Revo 12/18/2017 2:04 AM
popcorn.gif
Meow 12/18/2017 2:06 AM
Shovelthumb said he paid in full, now that's interesting.
2:06 AM
but like I said there's 5+ known copy's of this disk anybody could have it/leak it
Dezent 12/18/2017 2:06 AM
worthy
Meow 12/18/2017 2:07 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ratchet-And-Clank-Sample-Japanese-Not-For-Sale-PSP-UMD-UCJP-00083-Extremely-RARE-/331468708315?nma=true&si=YmYym22J0hsWGahS8AbqI8N5Mi8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 here's one, shovelthumb had 5 copy's, sold one to Paul, paul sold that to idk so there's multiple out there.
Ratchet And Clank Sample Japanese Not For Sale PSP UMD UCJP-00083 Extremely RARE
Ratchet And Clank Sample Japanese Not For Sale PSP UMD UCJP-00083 Extremely RARE | Video Games & Consoles, Video Games | eBay!
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:08 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 2:08 AM
I'm all for selling betas to get out there, but when multiple are known to exist I'll just leak it.
punk7890 12/18/2017 2:08 AM
how exactly old is this person anyways I mean its fairly obvious but still am curious
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:08 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 2:09 AM
no idea punk
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 2:09 AM
"the shovelthumb"
Dezent 12/18/2017 2:09 AM
He can't be serious
2:09 AM
...is he?
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 2:09 AM
…aw there's no shovel emoji
Meow 12/18/2017 2:09 AM
"big cash" fuck me sideways I owe £3000 for dev hardware.
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 2:09 AM
he paid with a giant novelty iou
Meow 12/18/2017 2:09 AM
I've got fucking £2k worths of dev shit sitting next to me
eientei 12/18/2017 2:10 AM
Closest to a shovel
Meow 12/18/2017 2:10 AM
If £100 is big bucks then he needs a job
2:10 AM
or a new hobby
Dezent 12/18/2017 2:10 AM
I see you have played knifey spooney before
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:10 AM
eientei 12/18/2017 2:11 AM
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:11 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 2:11 AM
I love how he always abuses then asks for a sorry
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 2:11 AM
pretty standard tactics
Meow 12/18/2017 2:11 AM
If he's sorry, piss off
Dezent 12/18/2017 2:11 AM
Winner in life, confirmed
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 2:11 AM
an extremely familiar pattern, really
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/18/2017 2:11 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 2:11 AM
he's done it to multiple people on AG/OG
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/18/2017 2:12 AM
oh no there's a fungal infection in my cactus farm
Meow 12/18/2017 2:12 AM
He made threats to break a members fingers "for not replying"
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/18/2017 2:12 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 2:12 AM
like bitch you don't deserve a reply
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/18/2017 2:12 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 2:12 AM
you need a new cactus?
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:12 AM
`🌸Xkeeper @xkeepah U BANNED ME IM GONNA MAKE U REGRET IT oh shit someone leaked a prototype that wasnt mine that i paid like two cheeseburgers for and was gonna sell for a ton of buckoids WHY R U SO MEEN please go cry to your mother, maybe you'll find someone who cares`
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Meow 12/18/2017 2:13 AM
love it.
eientei 12/18/2017 2:13 AM
You fucker Please don't ban me I'll break your fingers I'm sorry, I didn't mean that
Meow 12/18/2017 2:13 AM
you know, due to this muppet we've got 4 new R&C builds form his greed
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2:13 AM
from*
eientei 12/18/2017 2:13 AM
@Meow Press Up to edit your last message
Meow 12/18/2017 2:14 AM
I'm lazy
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2:14 AM
it's 7:14am I've not slept
Dezent 12/18/2017 2:14 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 2:14 AM
I was gonna sleep but npz keeps me awake.
Dezent 12/18/2017 2:14 AM
Go to sleep damnit
Meow 12/18/2017 2:14 AM
one day..
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:15 AM
Dezent 12/18/2017 2:15 AM
pfff
Meow 12/18/2017 2:15 AM
Ask him to have a boxing fight with a kangaroo, it'll be fun.
punk7890 12/18/2017 2:17 AM
Dezent 12/18/2017 2:18 AM
Why not just ask him to drag his nutsack through broken glass
2:18 AM
Box fight with kangaroo would be pretty neat, tho
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:18 AM
who the fuck even is
Meow 12/18/2017 2:18 AM
member from OG/AG
2:18 AM
pretty much the PSP god.
2:18 AM
he has nearly everything PSP related
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:19 AM
cool dude?
2:20 AM
Meow 12/18/2017 2:20 AM
yeah, he sold me osme TGS disks for £20 awhile back, and a couple of other bits
Xkeeper 12/18/2017 2:20 AM
lol
2:20 AM
2:20 AM
im gonna go soak in the spa w/ bmf
2:22 AM
air fart dispatched from japan so hopefully it'll be closer to us in the next few days
Meow 12/18/2017 2:22 AM
punk7890 12/18/2017 2:22 AM
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 2:25 AM
Dezent 12/18/2017 2:27 AM
Imagine how odd would it be to have miniature shovels as thumbs (edited)
Nex 12/18/2017 4:34 AM
skeletonhugger 12/18/2017 9:44 AM
He is still going at it? Jesus....
9:45 AM
"someone leaked a prototype that wasnt mine that i paid like two cheeseburgers for"
9:46 AM
Is this still a bout the wii sports thing?
Huks 12/18/2017 9:55 AM
He'll never stop if people keep giving him the attention he wants
GerbilSoft 12/18/2017 11:51 AM
lol
11:51 AM
also, news http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/12/18/amtrak-train-car-hangs-over-interstate-after-derailment/
tituscbs
Amtrak Train Car Hangs Over Interstate After Derailment
An Amtrak train car derailed and is dangling on to Interstate 5 in Pierce County, Washington, according to the Washington state Department of Transportation's Twitter account.
11:52 AM
>reading backlog
11:52 AM
"when a person messages you have to reply, and so you if you don't you mighht get banned"
11:52 AM
Incineroar 12/18/2017 12:20 PM
That's slightly terrifying
Revo 12/18/2017 12:31 PM
hey guys
12:31 PM
remember those asserts?
12:31 PM
https://github.com/sceptillion/pokefirered/commit/d1437d30f7e6071f62d1a7842400d6732c7313b7#diff-15c08288e8f7620282c72e0ddd26b904R94
decompile malloc · sceptillion/pokefirered@d1437d3
12:31 PM
we have then decompiled now
12:32 PM
so, you can actually see the actual asserts
Deleted User 12/18/2017 1:29 PM
honestly i accept this
1:29 PM
literally my only speciality is just trying to get emulators to work for screenshotting
1:29 PM
so its good to see some criticism
1:30 PM
at least there's something constructive here
Revo 12/18/2017 1:47 PM
that build info isn't unused, just fyi
1:47 PM
`C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/gflib/malloc.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/fieldmap.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/evobjmv.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/scrcmd.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/scr_tool.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/rfu.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/rfu_union_tool.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/mevent.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/mevent_server.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/menews_jisan.c C:/WORK/POKeFRLG/src/pm_lgfr_ose/source/cereader_tool.c`
1:47 PM
all the relevent rodata assert strings
Deleted User 12/18/2017 2:12 PM
Uuuuhhhh....what happened as i went to sleep?
Revo 12/18/2017 2:13 PM
2 things
Deleted User 12/18/2017 2:13 PM
Basically, some kid lost his shit in front of @Xkeeper 's shoes
2:13 PM
just because of a prototype
Revo 12/18/2017 2:13 PM
^
Deleted User 12/18/2017 2:13 PM
That's as basic as it gets.
2:15 PM
twatNPZor whatevertheUseris: I swear i am gonna find the bastard who didnt get permission to leak it
2:16 PM
Xkeeper handled it as rational as it couldve been handled
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/18/2017 2:16 PM
....kinda
GerbilSoft 12/18/2017 2:16 PM
with memes
2:16 PM
always memes
Deleted User 12/18/2017 2:16 PM
It's such a surreal event.
2:16 PM
Also i wouldve just sent him a mega link with the prototype just to piss the kid off
Revo 12/18/2017 2:17 PM
what prototype anyway?
GerbilSoft 12/18/2017 2:17 PM
some R&C
Deleted User 12/18/2017 2:17 PM
Ahh.....a fight fought with memes
2:17 PM
Revo 12/18/2017 2:18 PM
guess what also happened here yesterday
2:18 PM
i talked about GBA decomp
GerbilSoft 12/18/2017 2:18 PM
scroll back to when he got himself banned from here as "The Question"
2:18 PM
the only response was memes
2:19 PM
(dec 10; search for 'joseph')
Revo 12/18/2017 2:19 PM
i wasnt here then
Deleted User 12/18/2017 2:20 PM
ImagineDragonsVEVO?
2:21 PM
im joking
2:21 PM
Ok i get the gist of the situation here
2:24 PM
Also....nice. GBA decompiling
Revo 12/18/2017 2:25 PM
yeah
2:25 PM
GBA decomp is a recent trend in some RE circles
2:25 PM
specifically pokemon
2:25 PM
mainly cause we figured out how to apply the gcc variant of the GBA SDK to decomp
2:26 PM
(we cut it out and simplified the compiler to where its easy to build)
2:26 PM
more games can probably be decompiled, but its a case by case
2:26 PM
mainly because some games are handwritten and others use C++
2:26 PM
and many use C (specifically C90 or ISO C)
2:27 PM
pokemon ruby/sapphire is by far our most successful and progressed project
2:27 PM
over 75% of its decompilable assembly is in src/ now
2:27 PM
as C code
2:28 PM
of that 75% less than 2% is nonmatching or fakematching code thats very close but not quite (so original asm is indented below so ROM still matches)
2:29 PM
usually for very mathy or strange logic that hasnt been figured out yet, or undetermined compiler behavior
2:30 PM
ruby/sapphire most likely manually defined shared RAM regions in lower EWRAM, and it can be very very hard to match those uses
Deleted User 12/18/2017 2:30 PM
2:30 PM
Awesome they got an ace attorney emote
Revo 12/18/2017 2:30 PM
`#ifndef GUARD_EWRAM_H #define GUARD_EWRAM_H extern u8 gSharedMem[]; #define ewram_addr 0x02000000 // used in gSharedMem addr hacks // Note: we have duplicate ewram labels because its clear some memory // regions overlap others but have different definitions. Until some // dupes can be determined to be the same, they will be deliberate // seperated. #define eWeatherPaletteData (*(struct WeatherPaletteData *)gSharedMem) #define BATTLE_STRUCT ((struct BattleStruct *) (gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define ewram0_2 (*(struct Struct2000000 *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define namingScreenData (*(struct NamingScreenData *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define ewramBerryPic (gSharedMem + 0x0) #define ewram0_3 (*(struct UnknownStruct3 *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define ewram0_4 (*(struct Unk2000000 *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define ewram0_5 (*(struct UnkStruct *)(gSharedMem + 0x0)) #define eMatsudaDebugVar (gSharedMem[0x0]) #define eBrendanSprite (gSharedMem + 0x0) #define ewram0_6 (u32)(&gSharedMem[0]) #define ewram0_7 (&gSharedMem[0]) #define eSaveSection (struct SaveSection *)(gSharedMem + 0x0) ...`
Deleted User 12/18/2017 2:31 PM
eBrendanSprite
Revo 12/18/2017 2:31 PM
used during the intro or trainer card
2:31 PM
said shared region is at least well defined
2:31 PM
it's the first 0x20000 of EWRAM
2:32 PM
the last 0x20000 is not shared
2:32 PM
the last defs of ewram:
2:32 PM
`... #define ewramSavedItemsPocket ((struct ItemSlot *)(gSharedMem + 0x1E000)) // saved items pocket (for Wally battle) #define ewram1E000(i) (gSharedMem[0x1E000 + i]) #define eHallOfFameMons2 (struct HallofFameMons*)(&gSharedMem[0x1E000]) #define eHallOfFame (struct HallOfFame *)(gSharedMem + 0x1E000) #define HALL_OF_FAME_SHEET_0 ((u8 *)(gSharedMem + 0x1E000)) #define ewram1E000_2 (const u8 *)(gSharedMem + 0x1E000) #define HALL_OF_FAME_SHEET_1 ((u8 *)(gSharedMem + 0x1E800)) #define ewram_1f000 (*(struct DecoPCPointers *)(gSharedMem + 0x1f000)) #define ewramSavedPokeballsPocket ((struct ItemSlot *)(gSharedMem + 0x1F000)) // saved Pokeballs pocket (for Wally battle) #define HALL_OF_FAME_SHEET_2 ((u8 *)(gSharedMem + 0x1F000)) #define EWRAM_1F800 ((u16 *)(gSharedMem + 0x1F800)) #define ewram_1F800_2 (const u16 *)(gSharedMem + 0x1F800) #define ewram1FE00 (*(struct Unk201FE00 *)(gSharedMem + 0x1FE00)) #define eMailboxInfo (*(struct MailboxStruct *)(gSharedMem + 0x1FE00)) #define eCutGrassSpriteArray (gSharedMem + 0x1FFF0) // 8 sprite IDs #define ewram1FFFC (gSharedMem[0x1FFFC]) #define ewram1FFFD (gSharedMem[0x1FFFD]) #define gHelperState (gSharedMem[0x1FFFE]) #define ewram1FFFE (gSharedMem[0x1FFFE]) #define gReshowState (gSharedMem[0x1FFFF]) #define ewramBagSetupStep (gSharedMem[0x1FFFF]) #define ewram1FFFF (gSharedMem[0x1FFFF])`
2:32 PM
ends there
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 2:32 PM
@Revo I wonder why C90 instead of C99
Revo 12/18/2017 2:32 PM
because agbcc did not fully support C99
2:33 PM
it only supported a few extensions for C99
2:33 PM
at the time of GBA SDK being rolled out, C99 support wasnt fully there
2:33 PM
because of that, some later devs opted to roll out their own gcc toolchains
2:33 PM
so they could have C99
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 2:33 PM
Huh
Revo 12/18/2017 2:33 PM
you have to remember that C99 wasnt quickly adopted
2:34 PM
it was a very slow adoption
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 2:34 PM
I actually didn't know that ._.
Revenant 12/18/2017 2:34 PM
visual c++ still does not fully support c99
2:34 PM
(and probably never will)
Revo 12/18/2017 2:34 PM
anyway, fire red/leaf green and emerald depreciated this area in favor of using malloc to keep things allocated automatically
2:35 PM
thank god
2:35 PM
its easier to decompile
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 2:35 PM
@Revenant wtf
Revo 12/18/2017 2:35 PM
this area is called the heap, i think
2:36 PM
anyway
2:36 PM
fr/lg/emerald does occasionally use that area for "shared" stuff, but its so very rare
2:36 PM
it wasnt fully depreciated
2:36 PM
and one of the few functions which does is one of the hardest nonmatchings ive ever faced
2:37 PM
`#ifdef NONMATCHING // this is one devil of a motherfucker void MoveSaveBlocks_ResetHeap(void) { void *vblankCB, *hblankCB; u32 encryptionKey; struct SaveBlock1 **sav1Copy = &gSaveBlock1Ptr; // r10; // save interrupt functions and turn them off vblankCB = gMain.vblankCallback; hblankCB = gMain.hblankCallback; gMain.vblankCallback = NULL; gMain.hblankCallback = NULL; gUnknown_0203CF5C = NULL; // backup the saves. eSaveBlock1Copy = **sav1Copy; eSaveBlock2Copy = *gSaveBlock2Ptr; eSaveBlock3Copy = *gPokemonStoragePtr; // change saveblocks' pointers // argument is a sum of the individual trainerId bytes SetSaveBlocksPointers(eSaveBlock2Copy.playerTrainerId[0] + eSaveBlock2Copy.playerTrainerId[1] + eSaveBlock2Copy.playerTrainerId[2] + eSaveBlock2Copy.playerTrainerId[3]); // restore saveblock data since the pointers changed **sav1Copy = eSaveBlock1Copy; *gSaveBlock2Ptr = eSaveBlock2Copy; *gPokemonStoragePtr = eSaveBlock3Copy; // heap was destroyed in the copying process, so reset it InitHeap((void*)(0x02000000), 0x1C000); // restore interrupt functions gMain.hblankCallback = hblankCB; gMain.vblankCallback = vblankCB; // create a new encryption key encryptionKey = (Random() << 0x10) + (Random()); ApplyNewEncryptionKeyToAllEncryptedData(encryptionKey); gSaveBlock2Ptr->encryptionKey = encryptionKey; }`
2:37 PM
`/* The reason MoveSaveBlocks_ResetHeap mismatches is due to incorrect memcpys. Various things have been tried, such as: direct struct copys, ewram casts, use of defining the addresses manually, using memcpy anyway, delayed allocation of pointers at the start of function, as seen above and below. Scope declaration has been used to try and reproduce the correct macro thought to be used, but nothing has worked. It is worth noting that at this point that the compiler will delay the allocation of the save block pointers at the beginningto be allocated later: which might matter for matching this. Due to loading shared ewram heap areas directly, it is very likely emerald used ewram defines for this function, but there is no known example of a matching define. In addition, dead code might be present in the form of a runtime variable used to fix the address of the save blocks. This has been tested and is shown to affect the registers as well. */`
2:37 PM
this motherfucker
2:37 PM
holy fuck.
Gamma 12/18/2017 2:38 PM
Saves for Pokemon Red are encrypted?
Revo 12/18/2017 2:38 PM
`eSaveBlock1Copy = **sav1Copy;` is leftovers from trying to trick the compiler into producing the same asm
2:38 PM
no, Ruby/Sapph
Gamma 12/18/2017 2:38 PM
hm
2:38 PM
Why the encruption?
Revo 12/18/2017 2:38 PM
er, emerald.
2:39 PM
Emerald only encrypts money and coins, oddly enough
Gamma 12/18/2017 2:39 PM
Maybe to keep people from cheating
Revo 12/18/2017 2:39 PM
well
2:39 PM
almost
2:39 PM
`void ApplyNewEncryptionKeyToAllEncryptedData(u32 encryptionKey) { ApplyNewEncryptionKeyToGameStats(encryptionKey); ApplyNewEncryptionKeyToBagItems_(encryptionKey); ApplyNewEncryptionKeyToBerryPowder(encryptionKey); ApplyNewEncryptionKeyToWord(&gSaveBlock1Ptr->money, encryptionKey); ApplyNewEncryptionKeyToHword(&gSaveBlock1Ptr->coins, encryptionKey); }`
2:40 PM
its a pretty poor attempt at anti-cheat
2:40 PM
it was more likely anti-gameshark
2:40 PM
you can still circumvent this if you're not an idiot
2:41 PM
use a master code to freeze the save block area location
2:41 PM
then freeze the encryption key saved
2:41 PM
then finally edit the data
2:41 PM
i think thats what [M] does
Gamma 12/18/2017 2:41 PM
ohh
2:41 PM
I never knew what [M] was
Revo 12/18/2017 2:42 PM
[M] is designated codes that allow cheats to work for some games
2:42 PM
its case by case
Laenthor 12/18/2017 3:43 PM
Sometimes the M code is different for all regions. Does that mean that they change the encryption funciton or is it just moved somewhere else?
Gamma 12/18/2017 3:43 PM
Moved somehere else
3:44 PM
The different regions tend to differ in terms of program
3:44 PM
Fixing glitches, adding support for multiple languages
Laenthor 12/18/2017 3:46 PM
Ah ok
Glisp 12/18/2017 9:02 PM
@Nicole you're still around?
9:02 PM
And don't worry, I learned my lesson lol
9:04 PM
I hate being lazy...
9:04 PM
But at the same time I don't feel like editing TCRF at the moment
Laenthor 12/18/2017 9:16 PM
That's how I feel all the time...
divingkxt 12/18/2017 9:18 PM
Not exactly sure what to say.
9:18 PM
We tried a visual editor, but it's not super popular either.
9:19 PM
We tried making help pages, but there's a general lack of motivation to help expand those in a weird Catch-22 way.
9:20 PM
Anyone here good at dealing with wiki servers?
9:20 PM
Besides Xkeeper.
9:21 PM
Is there anything else we could do?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 9:35 PM
No nothing, I actually find that editing a page is quite relaxing, but I can't seem to find the ideal time or motivation to edit the videos I need to make
divingkxt 12/18/2017 9:37 PM
OK.
9:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG8tjyELDDA
Commodore 64 Brain
How to hack games - Commodore 64
9:39 PM
Not sure how many C64 people there are here, but here's something nice for those who want to get into hacking.
9:40 PM
Definitely more tools out there to hack into C64 stuff than Apple II(GS) stuff. (edited)
9:41 PM
Most of what can be used for the Apple II can also be used for the C64, seeing they have the same processors and have quirky ASCII.
Laenthor 12/18/2017 9:42 PM
I now pledge a whole 1$ per month for you guys
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divingkxt 12/18/2017 9:43 PM
http://csdb.dk/release/?id=100129
9:46 PM
Has anyone created a bot to mine through games yet?
Revo 12/18/2017 9:51 PM
i redid my assert changes to pokeruby just now
9:52 PM
now i can use `NDEBUG` properly to switch back and forth between DEBUG and non debug
9:52 PM
rom still matches with NDEBUG defined
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:05 PM
Hehe look it's ectoplasm from harry potter!
10:07 PM
Oh god there's actually much more unused content than I expected.
10:07 PM
The batman arkham series have been sitting in the dark for too long!
10:13 PM
The only models I can see is batman and joker with some weird textureless walls. maybe unreal viewer doesn't like u3/u4 games?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:23 PM
Everything's in maps for some reason, now I can hunt for unused content freely!
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:23 PM
I'd personally love it if MediaWiki could be made to support Markdown
Revenant 12/18/2017 10:26 PM
you'd have to somehow work around mediawiki and markdown having conflicting syntax
10:27 PM
as well as the usual fun fact that there literally doesn't exist any kind of markdown standard
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:29 PM
Yeah :/
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:30 PM
Could someone try to read this?
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 10:31 PM
k
divingkxt 12/18/2017 10:32 PM
@Laenthor
10:32 PM
"Dear Sir/Madam
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 10:32 PM
`Dear Sir/Madam I'm writing to tell you that your relative is loopy and will be confined to an inhuman floating cage in some (crazy dungeon)`
10:32 PM
parentheses = shit i'm not sur eof
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:32 PM
Yeah I can make parts of it but it's so blurry I'd rather let someone else give it a shot
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:32 PM
`Dear Sir-Madam I'm writing to inform you that your relative is loopy and will be confined to an inhuman floating cage in some crazy dungeon. You have no legal recourse to this decision and maybe liable for all costs incurred for the treatment of your psychotic family member. Best regards from all of us at Arkham Asylum rehabilitation services. Have a nice day. The Joker & Pals Signed, Prof. J Southgate`
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 10:32 PM
`You have no legal recourse in this decision and may be liable for all costs incurred for the treatment of your psychotic family member.`
divingkxt 12/18/2017 10:33 PM
The signature reads "Signed, Prof. J. Kowthgate"
10:33 PM
Oh, Southgate.
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:33 PM
Yeah that sounds familiar
10:34 PM
Hun, could include that on the page, there's no way you can see that in-game because if you get too close to the papers the physics kick in and push them everywhere
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:34 PM
does so!
10:34 PM
@Laenthor Is it Batman: Arkham Asylum or? (edited)
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:35 PM
yeah it's asylum
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:35 PM
OK
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:35 PM
There's also this one
10:36 PM
"Crazooly"
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:36 PM
Same as the first three paragraphs of the letter
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:36 PM
The bottom text is the same
10:36 PM
But the top stuff is different
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:37 PM
Yeah
Smoke 12/18/2017 10:37 PM
Diagnosis: Has a stupid name
10:37 PM
Umberto Crazooly
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:37 PM
Love the lorem-ipsum type stuff that actually took effort to make. A bit like a joke-easter egg
Smoke 12/18/2017 10:38 PM
230435-3485 (edited)
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:38 PM
Holy crap this game has so much details XD
10:38 PM
A phone number?
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:38 PM
Patient number, more likely
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:39 PM
Yeah, it's probably made up
10:39 PM
Identify the man in the picture XD
Smoke 12/18/2017 10:39 PM
Charles Manson?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:39 PM
Crazy level of detail I never noticed
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:39 PM
yo mama
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:40 PM
The joker card is a nice touch
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:43 PM
@Laenthor Have I your permission to use your pictures of those letters on the article for Batman: Arkham Asylum?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:43 PM
Sure
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:43 PM
Thanks
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:43 PM
I could take better ones if you want
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:44 PM
If you like
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:44 PM
Sure, give me 5 minutes
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:46 PM
Which system, BTW?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:47 PM
Windows
10:47 PM
Here's one
10:49 PM
Here's the other one
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:50 PM
Thank you so much
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:51 PM
I'll continue finding stuff, including music. I love unused sounds and music on top of everything else, well maybe except models. The more work was put into something winding unused, the more I love describing it on the website.
10:51 PM
That's why I don't really care about textures
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:51 PM
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:52 PM
After all that, if I can find some unused code I'll try but I doubt utpt can decrypt unreal 3...
10:53 PM
Alright I'll stop clogging the page with pictures after this XD
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Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 10:57 PM
Added
Laenthor 12/18/2017 10:59 PM
Nice
10:59 PM
Any significance with this date in the batman universe?
10:59 PM
Arkham Asylum's foundation date?
divingkxt 12/18/2017 11:00 PM
"On April 1, 1922, after treating Hawkins for six months, Arkham strapped him to the electroshock couch and deliberately electrocuted him. The death was treated as an accident but contributed to Arkham's gradual descent into madness, which he began to believe was his birthright. "
11:00 PM
Closest thing I could find.
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:01 PM
Uh, alright. Weird because that date is on the clock tower bell
11:03 PM
Ok this one I cannot read at all
YSB573 12/18/2017 11:03 PM
arkham asylum's foundation date was on april fools day
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:04 PM
Oh okay XD
11:04 PM
That's a nice ironic joke by the authors
11:07 PM
Joker's skeleton has such an elongated chin
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 11:08 PM
something something `you see this chin`
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:14 PM
Hey @Hâlian (ping in replies) more text! (model OBJ_room_book_04 in Admin_B2_Static)
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 11:15 PM
OLDEN WutFace
11:15 PM
Beyond that I have no fucking idea
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:15 PM
Same
11:16 PM
It's just an open book situated somewhere in the library part where you're on a timer to save 2 people from joker gas
11:16 PM
according to where the archive is
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 11:16 PM
`OLDEN TIME RESEARCHES AND REMINISCES OF NEW YORK CITY`
11:16 PM
i can't help but be mildly amused by this
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:17 PM
Yeah me too, must be some old early 1900's book
11:17 PM
or just something they made up for fun
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 11:17 PM
i'm honestly not sure which scenario would be goofier
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:17 PM
Would've been funny if this was the declaration of independance or something XD
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 11:18 PM
the idea that they decided to make up an old book that proclaimed itself an "old book"
11:18 PM
or that somebody actually published this
11:18 PM
idk
11:18 PM
it was funnier in my head than it is out loud
YSB573 12/18/2017 11:18 PM
AN APPENDIX,
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 11:19 PM
oh wait there's a lot of copypasta going on in this thing
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:19 PM
Yeah
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 11:19 PM
at least it's not an entire book of this i guess?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:19 PM
Looks like it's about half of a page
11:19 PM
yeah XD
11:19 PM
The date seems to read 1890
Smoke 12/18/2017 11:19 PM
Looks like 1830
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:20 PM
Zoom
ƒluƒƒу 12/18/2017 11:20 PM
i'm inclined to say 30 too
11:20 PM
but my eyes barely work so
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:20 PM
member of the """ society of pensylvania?
11:21 PM
historical?
11:21 PM
Maybe I'll try to isolate the texture alone
11:22 PM
Uh
11:22 PM
Is that someone with a tail?
divingkxt 12/18/2017 11:24 PM
Yes
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:27 PM
I also found the book texture and it's also not readable
11:27 PM
It's just too small
YSB573 12/18/2017 11:27 PM
tail? OwO
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/18/2017 11:27 PM
what's this
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:27 PM
Maybe killer croc, but I don't think he actually has a tail
11:28 PM
Just some weird x-ray pictures (and it's used, I just never paid attention to it)
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:36 PM
Woot! Finally found some actual unused models, I think... The only time in the game where you see batman's parents is when they're "undead", right?
Laenthor 12/18/2017 11:47 PM
Going to bed for now. Looks like they were pretty thorough with cleaning the packages sadly, but I won't give up!
Vague Rant 12/19/2017 12:54 AM
Don't you guys have Google.
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12:54 AM
https://search.lib.virginia.edu/catalog/u6291403
12:56 AM
Annals of Philadelphia: Being a Collection of Memoirs, Anecdotes, & Incidents of the City and Its Inhabitants From the Days of the Pilgrim Founders : Intended to Preserve the Recollections of Olden Time, and to Exhibit Society in Its Changes of Manners and Customs, and the City in Its Local Changes and Improvements : To Which Is Added an Appendix, Containing Olden Time Researches and Reminiscences of New York City (edited)
Deleted User 12/19/2017 1:50 AM
i downloaded a playable copy of a half-life 2 build from nov 2004 on release day, its kinda neat
1:50 AM
lots of little quirks, like the steam friends menu being an actual option on the main menu versus using steam overlay
leilei 12/19/2017 1:55 AM
all the games did that then
leilei 12/19/2017 2:17 AM
probably the only real difference you'll notice is the choppier sound and the broken fog
2:17 AM
and against the orange box refresh, just some older models and additive fires that look proper with their yellow-compiled light sources
2:20 AM
and a lack of some effects options (i.e. no "HDR", motion blur or bloom)
Deleted User 12/19/2017 2:39 AM
interesting. yeah the video settings are nerfed as well
2:39 AM
ive thought about looking for differences in the older bsps versus the new ones but its probably not worth it
leilei 12/19/2017 3:01 AM
i'd doubt there'd be much, considering they didn't correct the light color for the new fire
3:02 AM
half-life didn't get much content changes since release either
Deleted User 12/19/2017 3:02 AM
valve doesn't make games anymore
leilei 12/19/2017 3:02 AM
just more unused content slipping into the steam version by accident (edited)
3:02 AM
like doctor.mdl
Deleted User 12/19/2017 3:03 AM
i noticed a couple changes in the entity list between versions but that's about it
leilei 12/19/2017 3:03 AM
the code on the other hand had major changes of course
3:04 AM
the reloading change, the big 1.1 protocol change intorducing vgui and weapon events (changes egon effect), the voice/minimap addition change, encryption of hw.dll (to prevent cheats) and then there's that steam change (edited)
Deleted User 12/19/2017 3:05 AM
goldsource or source here
leilei 12/19/2017 3:05 AM
gldsrc
eientei 12/19/2017 3:40 AM
@Vague Rant https://archive.org/details/annalsofphiladel00john Readable version (linked one requires registering which may or may not cost)
Annals of Philadelphia : Watson, John Fanning, 1780-1860. [from old catalog] : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
eientei 12/19/2017 6:53 AM
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/software/trial/station.html Wonder what's behind these or if it's just a 3DS with a cart, like the DS Download Stations
ニンテンドー3DSステーション｜ニンテンドー3DS｜Nintendo
ニンテンドー3DSステーションについてご紹介します。
alan 12/19/2017 8:46 AM
it's a nintendo zone location so its probs just an access point
chekwob 12/19/2017 12:23 PM
does tcrf have posted rules on the mediawiki api usage?
Revenant 12/19/2017 12:24 PM
not really
12:24 PM
just don't do anything weird or obnoxious with it
Dezent 12/19/2017 12:32 PM
Anything weird?
12:32 PM
Like, how weird are we talking about
chekwob 12/19/2017 12:32 PM
I'm looking to hit query with prop=revisions, rvprop=ids, generator=categorymembers, gcmtitle=Category:Crash_Bandicoot_Series at around 5 or 10 minute intervals to report changed pages to another discord guild
Dezent 12/19/2017 12:33 PM
"Making the API your GF" weird?
Revenant 12/19/2017 12:34 PM
yeah that's probably fine
12:35 PM
anything that doesn't generate substantially more traffic than a human user browsing the site normally should be ok
12:37 PM
i guess in the worst case you might just get asked to knock it off if it gets out of control
chekwob 12/19/2017 12:38 PM
ok
Xkeeper 12/19/2017 12:42 PM
Revenant 12/19/2017 12:42 PM
same
Xkeeper 12/19/2017 12:42 PM
Nex 12/19/2017 12:43 PM
12 years is too old
Xkeeper 12/19/2017 12:43 PM
Nex 12/19/2017 12:43 PM
say 51 lol
Revenant 12/19/2017 12:46 PM
is he hoping that this site is also run by 12 year olds
Dezent 12/19/2017 12:47 PM
Oooooooooh more NPZ drama
12:47 PM
prepares popcorn
Xkeeper 12/19/2017 12:47 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/19/2017 12:55 PM
GerbilSoft 12/19/2017 1:01 PM
i'm 12 years old and what is this
Halfbit 12/19/2017 1:01 PM
I’m a fetus
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/19/2017 1:01 PM
xkeper is x years old
GerbilSoft 12/19/2017 1:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zat9CRfUr-E Benny Hill = NPZ, everyone else = everyone else (edited)
The Benny Hill Fan Consortium
Benny Hill - Hospital Hi-Jinx w/Closing Chase (1986)
Nex 12/19/2017 1:12 PM
prisonman
Azure 12/19/2017 1:13 PM
Xkeeper's sarcastic reaction images are the best
GerbilSoft 12/19/2017 1:14 PM
all memes, all the time
1:14 PM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/943175833484591104
🌸Xkeeper (@xkeepah)
this clown i'm dealing with in dms

- tried to scam people out of $ for a ratchet and clank prototype
- wasn't even his prototype
- got banned from a billion ben 10 communities somehow
- is apparently 12 years old

the internet was a mistake.
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!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/19/2017 1:15 PM
when you were 12 yo, did you try scamming people for money?
GerbilSoft 12/19/2017 1:15 PM
when i was 12 i was writing Sonic HackingWiz Pro
1:15 PM
:VVV
1:15 PM
also xkeeper broke chrome https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/943167198154997760
🌸Xkeeper (@xkeepah)
uhhhh
Azure 12/19/2017 1:16 PM
that reminds me of screenshots where some internet explorer user had a million custom toolbars
GerbilSoft 12/19/2017 1:16 PM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/943167631313399808
🌸Xkeeper (@xkeepah)
chrome is not well
Dezent 12/19/2017 1:16 PM
rip chrome
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/19/2017 1:17 PM
i like snooping through tabs
1:17 PM
tells a lot about people
1:17 PM
1:17 PM
heres mine
1:17 PM
oh wait
Incineroar 12/19/2017 1:56 PM
hm
1:56 PM
it seems another message is displayed when doing mobile adapter pokemon battles
1:56 PM
not sure if it's a custom message or if it's something by the game itself though
1:56 PM
1:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/jHiToz7.png
1:57 PM
i'll have to see if that's custom or not
1:59 PM
looks like it is
1:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MNWVbfp.png
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/19/2017 1:59 PM
Huh
Incineroar 12/19/2017 1:59 PM
there's a few other phrases you can view as well but i'm not sure what they're for
2:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/E6Ths0W.png and I know the bottom option goes to the previous menu
2:01 PM
i think it's battle win and battle loss for the bottom two though
Incineroar 12/19/2017 2:09 PM
not sure what the top one is though
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/19/2017 2:11 PM
自己紹介 = Introduce yourself 対戦が始まる時 = When the match starts 対戦に勝った時 = After winning a match 対戦に負けた時 = After losing a match (edited)
Incineroar 12/19/2017 2:15 PM
Ah, it's a self-introduction
2:15 PM
i'll have to dig around and see if I can find where that phrase is used
2:16 PM
hm
2:16 PM
found it
2:16 PM
apparently
2:16 PM
there's also an option to send your mobile profile information to another friend through IR
Revo 12/19/2017 2:37 PM
My theory is that they had custom Crystal ROMs which transmitted those over link and through the internet
2:38 PM
So mobile distribution is simple for them
Incineroar 12/19/2017 3:02 PM
@Revo they, as in Game Freak?
Revo 12/19/2017 3:04 PM
Yes and Nintendo, since they had the servers
Incineroar 12/19/2017 3:06 PM
Yeah, I imagine having modified ROMs would be immensely helpful in debugging
3:06 PM
i'm looking at the text dump though and i'm finding some interesting strings
3:07 PM
`Pick which packet as an error?`
Revo 12/19/2017 3:07 PM
So there's a chance that all of the mobile programs are there
Incineroar 12/19/2017 3:08 PM
they are
3:08 PM
for the Pokemon News at least
3:08 PM
they're in bank 7D
Revo 12/19/2017 3:08 PM
I mean like, celebi event program
Incineroar 12/19/2017 3:09 PM
iirc in one of the news programs still in the ROM it actually enables the GS ball event
3:09 PM
https://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php?topic=7509.msg206449#msg206449
3:09 PM
i should try and figure that out
3:11 PM
i imagine they used that test program for testing out the ability to actually check the conditions that satisfy getting the GS Ball
3:12 PM
from what I'm reading, players were given the GS Ball if they topped in online rankings
3:12 PM
i should look at the script and work on getting it working with this set of leftover data
3:14 PM
shouldn't be too hard considering it already has the ability to send over some Pokemon eggs for the Egg Ticket
3:15 PM
I'd love to try using Pokemon News
Incineroar 12/19/2017 3:26 PM
hm, the ROM doesn't have the metadata for the included news issues
3:26 PM
sad
3:30 PM
it also seems that due to missing information, the Pokemon News machine may never be fully functional. There are scripts though in that bank to copy the mobile data and allow it to be executed
YSB573 12/19/2017 3:54 PM
we could probably recreate the GS Ball event with infrared
old acc! inactive 12/19/2017 3:56 PM
i think it's cool game freak's bringing back the GS Ball for the Crystal re-release
YSB573 12/19/2017 3:57 PM
oh hi baguette
old acc! inactive 12/19/2017 3:57 PM
hello
YSB573 12/19/2017 3:57 PM
one thing I've learned: Anything named Crackers is bound to not get released.
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3:58 PM
see Sonic Crackers and Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers
old acc! inactive 12/19/2017 3:59 PM
both coincidentally got turned into new games
Laenthor 12/19/2017 3:59 PM
Goddamit @Hâlian (ping in replies) There's other journals and stuff with unreadable stuff
YSB573 12/19/2017 4:00 PM
"We finally got him"
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/19/2017 4:00 PM
I misread that as "we could probably recreate the GS Ball event with Innistrad"
YSB573 12/19/2017 4:00 PM
lel
Laenthor 12/19/2017 4:00 PM
Wednesday march 16 2000?
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/19/2017 4:02 PM
2008?
4:02 PM
I have no fucking idea
YSB573 12/19/2017 4:02 PM
no that's definitely 2000
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/19/2017 4:02 PM
OK
Laenthor 12/19/2017 4:05 PM
Love how they named the bootleg batcave parts
4:05 PM
"batchair, batdesk"
4:08 PM
That's also kinda scary...
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/19/2017 4:10 PM
gneurshk
Gamma 12/19/2017 4:11 PM
uh
4:11 PM
what is that
Laenthor 12/19/2017 4:12 PM
Killer Croc's skeleton
4:12 PM
It's used absolutely, but it's scary
Gamma 12/19/2017 4:12 PM
he's very big-boned
Laenthor 12/19/2017 4:12 PM
I also just found more of these pictures
4:14 PM
And that's killer croc for those who were curious
Gamma 12/19/2017 4:16 PM
His skeleton is literally a skeleton? Or does his skin melt off at some point
4:16 PM
are we talking rigging skeleton or literal skeleton
Laenthor 12/19/2017 4:21 PM
No, in the game you can activate detective mode and you can see everyone as a skeleton
4:22 PM
But I don't know if they actually give the same animations to the skeletons or just switch back and forth between skin/bones with the modes
setz 12/19/2017 4:25 PM
http://ff1.ffrk.jp/js/app.js?1513718304
4:25 PM
that mobile/web ff1 thing apparently has debug stuff and i hear you guys like that
Laenthor 12/19/2017 4:25 PM
@Hâlian (ping in replies) Found another letter
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/19/2017 4:25 PM
k
Gamma 12/19/2017 4:26 PM
hah
4:26 PM
looks like an internal memo
Laenthor 12/19/2017 4:30 PM
Pretty sure this is unused, but will need to confirm
4:32 PM
Ah I found what I was looking for yesterday. The human with a tail, wonder how they made these up (or they didn't o.0)
4:35 PM
I know it's used because they later replace it with this
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Laenthor 12/19/2017 4:54 PM
`ARTEMIS, James Ronald Different set of artwork for interior and exteriors? (???) act as hub for the interior (???) always a (???) to the different places. (???) to the same location to access different parts of a building or (???) different (???) Four key styles, concept a small bit of (???) have several levels`
4:54 PM
*The note I posted up there
4:55 PM
If someone could interpret the rest that would be great
GameHistoryOrg 12/19/2017 4:55 PM
those weird photos are used in the secret room I think
Laenthor 12/19/2017 4:59 PM
Not in the secret room, but somewhere in the medical office I'm pretty sure. Are you talking about the x-rays or the weird photo guy?
GameHistoryOrg 12/19/2017 5:04 PM
oh you're right
5:04 PM
yes the weird photo guy
5:05 PM
secret room was the arkham city stuff, right?
Laenthor 12/19/2017 5:12 PM
idk, if the secret room you're talking about is the one where you need to bomb the wall 3 times I don't think it's in there
5:13 PM
But I'm pretty sure they only appear late-game
5:13 PM
Because as you progress through the game, the more and more the decor changes to something a bit more crazy and disorganised
5:14 PM
Pretty sure the piles of paper begin as normal, then they get replaced with scattered pieces and some have weird pictures
GameHistoryOrg 12/19/2017 5:18 PM
oh I'm saying you're right and I'm wrong, those photos are NOT in the secret room, the secret room has the stuff that's a teaser for arkham city
Laenthor 12/19/2017 5:21 PM
Yeah
5:22 PM
I should replay the game again just as a refresher, but it's hard getting used to the old flow of combat
Vague Rant 12/19/2017 8:36 PM
`ARTEMIS, James Ronald Different set of artwork for interior and exteriors? Outside areas act as hub for the interior locations always a transition to the different places. (???) to the same location to access different parts of a building or achieve different goals Four key styles, concept a small bit of each style then have several levels`
divingkxt 12/19/2017 8:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWpFVakcEKg
Larry Bundy Jr
The 30-Year-Old, SUPER OFFENSIVE Easter Egg The World Thought was FAKE!!! | Fact Hunt Special
Azure 12/19/2017 8:50 PM
that is the most clickbaity title and thumbnail I've seen in like a month
Gamma 12/19/2017 8:51 PM
Larry's usually pretty good at not doing that
divingkxt 12/19/2017 8:51 PM
But it actually does document something intersting.
8:51 PM
If you're a European gamer, anyway.
General Instrument CP1610 1979 12/19/2017 8:52 PM
All i see are pixel tiddies.
divingkxt 12/19/2017 8:52 PM
Plus, it requires hex editing to see, so it's definitely TCRF-worthy.
General Instrument CP1610 1979 12/19/2017 8:52 PM
Which i'm into
Gamma 12/19/2017 8:52 PM
Laenthor 12/19/2017 8:52 PM
(+) (+)
General Instrument CP1610 1979 12/19/2017 8:55 PM
good enough
divingkxt 12/19/2017 8:55 PM
...
8:55 PM
Seems like a few people need girlfriends.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/19/2017 9:01 PM
divingkxt 12/19/2017 9:04 PM
The problem though is that...yeah...
9:04 PM
boobs are way too often used for clickbait.
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/19/2017 9:04 PM
titties*
divingkxt 12/19/2017 9:05 PM
And considering this is YT, where video makers will do anything, to desperately latch onto views, no how skeevy it is,
9:05 PM
it's very surprising that this happens all the time.
9:06 PM
Heck, there are loads of videos for tutorials on this alone.
Halfbit 12/19/2017 9:07 PM
And don’t forget shocked expressions and titles in all-caps
divingkxt 12/19/2017 9:07 PM
And emojis, because they're hip.
Smoke 12/19/2017 9:09 PM
9:13 PM
This person had way more annoying thumbnails
Halfbit 12/19/2017 9:16 PM
At least they’re a bit different by having comic book-like Exclamations instead of red circles
punk7890 12/19/2017 10:34 PM
blah, writing 70+ lines of code to enable a debug menu. I hope it works. The moment of truth...
Smoke 12/19/2017 10:35 PM
jinx
punk7890 12/19/2017 10:41 PM
welp, it didn't draw the menu fully
10:41 PM
hmmm
felineki 12/19/2017 10:49 PM
https://twitter.com/felineki/status/926506766715801600 Some TCRF humor
felineki (@felineki)
Donovan's SWORD* ELEMENTALS! #Darkstalkers *ᴹᵃʸ ᶰᵒᵗ ᵃᶜᵗᵘᵃᶫᶫʸ ᶦᶰᵛᵒᶫᵛᵉ ˢʷᵒʳᵈ
Video 12/19/2017 10:58 PM
The Remington 700 in Modern Warfare 2 has been confirmed to be accessible via console commands or modding.
11:00 PM
The G3 has an entry in the Create-a-Class feature, but it isn't normally accessible.
11:01 PM
it also doesn't seem to load in-game
punk7890 12/19/2017 11:17 PM
11:17 PM
almost
Revo 12/19/2017 11:19 PM
what game?
punk7890 12/19/2017 11:20 PM
Persona 4
11:21 PM
debug menu initialization was gone in this version so I had to make a very long asm hack
11:21 PM
still working on it
Revo 12/19/2017 11:22 PM
i wonder if the init function was removed by the linker at compile time
11:22 PM
due to being unused
punk7890 12/19/2017 11:23 PM
both debug menu functions were stripped from the game
11:23 PM
sub functions remain though
11:25 PM
arg I;m not sure whats wrong hmm
Xkeeper 12/19/2017 11:29 PM
ゲームボーイ64 12/19/2017 11:30 PM
Looks like fun
Halfbit 12/19/2017 11:30 PM
His icon looks like if Steve from Blue’s Clues met South Park
ゲームボーイ64 12/19/2017 11:31 PM
Where I come from, the little twerp is a meme (edited)
punk7890 12/19/2017 11:32 PM
sad that he doesn't have anything better to do with his time
Xkeeper 12/19/2017 11:32 PM
yup
ゲームボーイ64 12/19/2017 11:33 PM
I feel bad for you xkeeper
Dprotp 12/19/2017 11:33 PM
more like
11:33 PM
nvm pun setup sucked
11:34 PM
that wacko is rabbid!!
punk7890 12/19/2017 11:53 PM
idk about this debug menu. I guess something else must be different in this game compared to JP version
11:53 PM
here is the mega long code that semi- works: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CLuIIezMXHLPe69mL7rpOyJiks2q7_R7/view?usp=sharing
persona 4 debug (not working).txt
11:53 PM
probably wouldn't even work on console because its so long
ゲームボーイ64 12/20/2017 12:14 AM
Or your thumbs might just get sore
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/20/2017 12:17 AM
*or your shovelthumbs might just get sore
ゲームボーイ64 12/20/2017 12:17 AM
huehuehue
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 12:36 AM
"His icon looks like if Steve from Blue’s Clues met South Park"
12:36 AM
http://1.images.southparkstudios.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-10/1009/south-park-s10e09c02-raging-clues-16x9.jpg?quality=0.8 I'm getting a clue
Incineroar 12/20/2017 1:24 AM
oops
1:24 AM
1:25 AM
(The game also crashed)
punk7890 12/20/2017 1:25 AM
oops
1:26 AM
はい I'd like to crash my game please
Incineroar 12/20/2017 1:26 AM
hopefully I didn't do any arbitrary writes to the SRAM
1:26 AM
guess we'll find out next boot
1:29 AM
we're good
1:29 AM
ok it's this metadata
punk7890 12/20/2017 1:29 AM
Incineroar 12/20/2017 1:29 AM
this metadata does not like me
1:29 AM
i'll have to figure it out through some kind of bruteforce
1:29 AM
the rest should work
1:30 AM
i managed to crash it yet again
1:30 AM
punk7890 12/20/2017 1:32 AM
what are you trying to do
Incineroar 12/20/2017 1:33 AM
trying to get the pokemon news data that i extracted to download through the adapter script
1:33 AM
i need to attempt to bruteforce some metadata that it downloads, and it isn't much, but the game crashes when trying to print something\
punk7890 12/20/2017 1:34 AM
sounds rough
AeonCipher 12/20/2017 1:45 AM
So something I discovered a while back but apparently in the MM8 protos there are sprites for an earlier version of the Homing Sniper.
1:46 AM
Looks like one of the rockets from Spyro design-wise. (edited)
1:46 AM
caught it when I was looking at the sprite viewer that's in build 2
leilei 12/20/2017 2:00 AM
whoa felineki's here
2:00 AM
could this discord possibly make this world any smaller (edited)
Incineroar 12/20/2017 2:08 AM
ok i'm getting somewhere
2:08 AM
it's not crashing!
2:14 AM
sick
2:14 AM
2:15 AM
i'm starting to wonder if this data is lowkey stored
LuigiBlood 12/20/2017 6:02 AM
(Dunno why I haven't joined this Discord sooner)
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:34 AM
hi
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:38 AM
o/
Elyos 12/20/2017 6:43 AM
Hello
Dezent 12/20/2017 6:59 AM
eyyyyyyyy
Meow 12/20/2017 7:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbP2VHaooxA any skylanders fans should enjoy this. sadly it can't be dumped as the encryption to the RVT-H isn't known it uses different keys to retail/RVT-R.
Obscure Gamers
Skylanders Giants Alpha (Full Playthrough)
Elyos 12/20/2017 7:58 AM
Oh wow, not a huge skylanders fan but that is kind of interesting.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/20/2017 8:23 AM
are the keys like inaccessible somehow
Meow 12/20/2017 8:26 AM
nobody knows if you try retail keys it shows nothing, if you try RVT-R keys it'll show 140MB of data but that's all rest can't be seen. I even manually extract the disk images from the HDD and tried but they're not mine to give out so can't put out to research. been trying to find a cheap RVT-R myself so I can release an image to hopefully get the keys cracked but no luck so far.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/20/2017 8:26 AM
hm
Meow 12/20/2017 8:29 AM
RVT-H * sorry
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/20/2017 8:30 AM
is it someone elses RVT-H?
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:30 AM
RVT-H uses different keys?
8:30 AM
That doesn't seem right - and if it does, it should be in the sdk
8:31 AM
Could be some other issue - I could take a look later maybe
Meow 12/20/2017 8:31 AM
yeah it does and I haven't worked it out myself. I have most of the Wii SDK stuff if needed
8:32 AM
This HDD funny enough has an unreleased game mentioned in it but there's less then 20MB of data left
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/20/2017 8:32 AM
some announced one?
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:32 AM
Can you at least get the ticket/tmd issuer name
Meow 12/20/2017 8:33 AM
nope never found anything about this one. and uhm which bits that? I'd need to extract the images they're packed (80GB each) lol
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:34 AM
The RVT-R protos you dumped had the issuer Root-CA00000002-XS00000006
Meow 12/20/2017 8:34 AM
Ohh that bit, ok give me a while only been awake an hour or so. I need to find te images on my betas drive.
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:34 AM
Ok
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/20/2017 8:35 AM
do you have an alpha drive as well
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:35 AM
Could have the same issuer but different index - the entire ticket/tmd is usually plaintext aside from the keys
Meow 12/20/2017 8:35 AM
it looks like these are RVM images according to the sdk notes.
8:35 AM
oops clicked wrong one lool I read the rvt-r one
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:35 AM
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Ticket
Ticket
8:36 AM
RVM is a sparse image so it could be that your decryption tool isn't handling that right
Meow 12/20/2017 8:36 AM
https://zendimg.com/image/0o96 ahh ok so it is RVM still
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:36 AM
...though I don't think Wii discs use the sector number as part of the encryption
Meow 12/20/2017 8:36 AM
It's the wiiscrubber one possibly that
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:37 AM
Sidenote: apparently on switch, the entire NCA executable (including header) is encrypted, except for the "logo" section
Meow 12/20/2017 8:38 AM
didn't know that, i've only got the sdk never done anything else.
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:38 AM
I need to get around to adding some basic NCA support to rom-properties but I don't have any samples :v - the format's documented on switchbrew
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/20/2017 8:39 AM
i like the extension megazarf at least
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 8:40 AM
brb
Meow 12/20/2017 8:41 AM
https://zendimg.com/image/0IQs extracting and np
Meow 12/20/2017 9:01 AM
https://zendimg.com/image/0sIh https://zendimg.com/image/0xy5 @GerbilSoft
9:07 AM
https://zendimg.com/image/03tn aha here's the unknown game, least the only sign it existed.
Meow 12/20/2017 9:25 AM
https://zendimg.com/image/0P7K least data recovery kinda works.
Halfbit 12/20/2017 9:31 AM
Morning
GerbilSoft 12/20/2017 9:49 AM
hm, okay
9:49 AM
so the dev key is partially working
9:49 AM
could be that part of the HDD was wiped somehow
9:49 AM
which would suck
9:49 AM
(or does the game run normally?)
Meow 12/20/2017 9:52 AM
There's 3 working builds on the HDD, the RVT-H could fit 4 images at a time.
9:52 AM
I guess the 4th is the nascar one
9:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbP2VHaooxA the owner released this footage of it last night
Obscure Gamers
Skylanders Giants Alpha (Full Playthrough)
Laenthor 12/20/2017 10:55 AM
I was wondering if the overpriced bombs in zelda the wind waker could actually be bought with hacking the max rupee value or not.
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Gamma 12/20/2017 10:56 AM
let me see
10:59 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Pa3GwiU.png
11:00 AM
The price is actually set to 10,000
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/20/2017 11:00 AM
Gamma 12/20/2017 11:01 AM
same for 20,000 and 30,000
11:02 AM
I don't know if you can actually buy them though
11:02 AM
The max you can get in tww is 5,000
Laenthor 12/20/2017 11:02 AM
That's what I was wondering, because it's the same normal shop as the one later on that lowers the prices
11:03 AM
Can you try to edit the max wallet value?
Gamma 12/20/2017 11:03 AM
The fact that they set the price field would suggest they used the same framework as the normal shops
11:03 AM
When I get home I could try changing the price field to like 4
Laenthor 12/20/2017 11:04 AM
Sure, tag me later to let me know
Revenant 12/20/2017 1:40 PM
https://twitter.com/nocontxtmario/status/943239951797366784
NocontextMario (@nocontxtmario)
https://t.co/97nVKoWZ8I
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1:40 PM
this makes me think of that unused terrain tile in kirby's dream course that causes this to happen
1:40 PM
but of course you have no control mid-shot so it softlocks the game
Gamma 12/20/2017 1:41 PM
hah
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:15 PM
@Deleted User there isn't a map in Persona 3 called F001_003.PAC. The M001_003.RMD I assume is textures for it. Kinda like how F000_000.FPC is in the game but not its corresponding .PAC file
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:16 PM
maybe it's not in FES
6:16 PM
no wait it has to be
6:16 PM
I added it to the page lol
6:16 PM
lemme look around
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:17 PM
the M001_003.RMD is just not the map file for it
6:17 PM
since it generally goes M001_003.RMD = F001_0003.PAC + FPC
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:19 PM
`data.cvm/FIELD/RMD/M001_003.RMD`
6:19 PM
226KB
6:20 PM
RMD itself is a model file, should be more than just textures to it.
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:20 PM
yeah but I think those are just graphics packed into a file? the way I am loading maps is based on Fxxx_xxx.PAC + FPC numbers
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:20 PM
Renderware Model Data
6:20 PM
nah I've loaded the RMD in a model viewer
6:20 PM
no FPC
6:20 PM
or PAC
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:20 PM
yeah its not a map file I guess
6:21 PM
I guess just model left over data
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:21 PM
ah
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:21 PM
not surprising tbh
6:21 PM
happened a lot in these games
6:25 PM
strange there is a lot of missing maps. I see F006_023 but the map list stops there. Textures / models appear in M006_024.RMD to M006_029.RMD
6:25 PM
anything unused in those RMD files?
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:26 PM
they'd be in `data.cvm/FIELD/RMD/`?
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:26 PM
yeah
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:26 PM
k gimme a sec
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:28 PM
wait the list goes up to M006_511.RMD. I am not sure now... hmm
6:28 PM
I guess maybe grouped or something
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:28 PM
6_024 is a set of doors
6:29 PM
the reflection texture they use is interesting
6:29 PM
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:31 PM
hm dunno how RMD works in this game then
6:31 PM
I guess map textures are in the PAC/FPC files
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:31 PM
this all looks like stuff for the front of the school
6:31 PM
3 sets of doors
6:31 PM
a steel beam gate
6:31 PM
tree shadows
6:32 PM
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:32 PM
ah ok
6:32 PM
map objects
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:33 PM
hm
6:33 PM
yeah
6:33 PM
objects for sure, but there are a few outliers.
6:33 PM
6:34 PM
m004_027
6:34 PM
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:34 PM
hm
Deleted User 12/20/2017 6:35 PM
idk if that texture is in final, but it's worth noting that "minatodai" was the early name for Iwatodai
6:36 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:Persona-3-Early-Map-Names-Mockup.png
File:Persona-3-Early-Map-Names-Mockup.png
6:41 PM
stored as an object
punk7890 12/20/2017 6:43 PM
neat
punk7890 12/20/2017 7:02 PM
7:02 PM
Dark Hour holiday
Gamma 12/20/2017 7:04 PM
:]
Deleted User 12/20/2017 7:24 PM
lol
punk7890 12/20/2017 7:29 PM
weird, this is the second time my computer randomly locked up while playing Persona 3
LarryLemmy 12/20/2017 7:37 PM
What are the Catgirl, Meow and Lua namespaces for in User Contributions?
esther 12/20/2017 7:41 PM
Catgirl is i assume a joke namespace, Meow is its associated discussion namespace, and Lua is for lua scripts https://tcrf.net/Category:Lua_scripts
Category:Lua scripts
Gamma 12/20/2017 7:42 PM
@Laenthor Unfortunately, setting the price to an obtainable amount doesn't let you buy bombs. The owner just chastises you for not having enough Rupees
LarryLemmy 12/20/2017 7:42 PM
@esther ohh thanks
Laenthor 12/20/2017 7:42 PM
Of course. I wonder what makes this shop different than the others then?
Gamma 12/20/2017 7:43 PM
He probably inherits from the shop class but overrides the "player bought an item" function with one that always rejects the player's purchase (edited)
LarryLemmy 12/20/2017 7:44 PM
I wonder how he stays in business if he refuses to sell to people who are able to afford it
Gamma 12/20/2017 7:45 PM
punk7890 12/20/2017 7:59 PM
anyone know if this background is used at all? it appears to be a map relating to cutscenes
7:59 PM
Deleted User 12/20/2017 8:30 PM
seems likely
8:30 PM
considering the ending
punk7890 12/20/2017 8:31 PM
@Deleted User do you happen to know what contents are in the ZZZ CVM file in Persona 4? never looked through that but seemed interesting
Deleted User 12/20/2017 8:36 PM
it's the entire battle.cvm from Persona 3
punk7890 12/20/2017 8:37 PM
ah heh
Deleted User 12/20/2017 8:38 PM
I'm assuming it's identical to final
8:38 PM
I don't remember seeing anything stick out
punk7890 12/20/2017 8:38 PM
I know Shin Megami Tenesi games had like 200MB worth of the ending song from SMT3
8:38 PM
in ZZZ.BIN
Deleted User 12/20/2017 8:39 PM
yeah, just looped copies of that song lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/20/2017 8:39 PM
why would they even add all that padding
punk7890 12/20/2017 8:40 PM
found about 12 blank dungeon maps in P3
8:42 PM
8:42 PM
pretty sure this is unused as you can't go back / forward. It fades the screen when trying to go up the stairs but never loads anything
8:43 PM
also this
8:43 PM
8:43 PM
slightly different
Deleted User 12/20/2017 8:43 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT to help with load times
8:43 PM
cause disc-based media
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/20/2017 8:44 PM
now that you mention it
8:44 PM
theres this 30 mb GC game that takes like 10 seconds to load areas
Deleted User 12/20/2017 8:44 PM
lol
8:44 PM
neat @punk7890
8:45 PM
Persona 4 has some unused floors for its dungeons
8:45 PM
Hmm.....12 dungeons
punk7890 12/20/2017 8:45 PM
those 2 maps relate to an entire section of unused dungeon maps
Deleted User 12/20/2017 8:45 PM
Also not to mention something the gas station attendant was supposed to say as well @Deleted User
8:45 PM
And a job there as well
8:46 PM
mm
8:46 PM
P4 has a bunch of unused stuff
punk7890 12/20/2017 8:50 PM
jeez, there is a lot of unused dungeon floors in P3
Deleted User 12/20/2017 9:00 PM
Yep
9:00 PM
Some probably left over from testing
9:00 PM
Or abandoned
punk7890 12/20/2017 9:01 PM
found this trippy one
9:01 PM
9:02 PM
is there a used version like that?
9:02 PM
(also in an unused dungeon section)
Deleted User 12/20/2017 9:03 PM
Looks like one of the third to last floors (edited)
9:04 PM
I believe. Its been a moth since i played p3
9:05 PM
Month
punk7890 12/20/2017 9:10 PM
9:10 PM
too many to go through
9:10 PM
maybe Victor on twitter might want to go through them
Deleted User 12/20/2017 9:12 PM
good call
punk7890 12/20/2017 9:45 PM
https://pastebin.com/hK4pWYND for anyone who wants to fiddle around with it
Persona 3 FES USA Map Modifier Code - Pastebin.com
Laenthor 12/20/2017 10:29 PM
If there was a personna collection on ps4 I'd probably buy it
10:29 PM
I bought the naruto ninja storm legacy collection when I saw it so I'd do the same for that
Xkeeper 12/21/2017 2:58 AM
I added a link to this place on the reddit that nobody uses
Meow 12/21/2017 3:28 AM
you mean this server @Xkeeper ?
3:28 AM
I can stick one on OG if you like to members only? we already link to tcrf via a dropdown as it is.
Block57 12/21/2017 1:13 PM
hello
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/21/2017 1:14 PM
hai
Block57 12/21/2017 1:15 PM
never even knew there was a discord
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/21/2017 1:15 PM
I made it a few weeks ago :P
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 1:18 PM
can i have mod
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/21/2017 1:20 PM
1:20 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 1:21 PM
dude i wanted to be the one doing the banhammering
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/21/2017 1:22 PM
1:22 PM
oops
1:23 PM
accidental pin
Block57 12/21/2017 1:23 PM
i wonder if there's a way to cleanly modify a wii game's files
1:24 PM
without having to use wiiisoscrubber
1:24 PM
because boy would getting unused cutscenes in Xenoblade be the best shit
Laenthor 12/21/2017 1:52 PM
Woah, just managed to crash batman arkham asylum
1:53 PM
The 1st scarecrow section has a breakable wall that leads somewhere and it crashes when you go in. I'm going to try to reproduce the crash
1:55 PM
Or no it's intended and something really screwed up XD
Revo 12/21/2017 2:30 PM
do you guys have any idea why no$GBA doesnt support AGBPrint?
Deleted User 12/21/2017 2:50 PM
2:51 PM
I got bored
2:51 PM
Another breeding ground for dangerous .bat files
2:52 PM
I wouldve even ran Windows Neptune or even MSDOS.....but meh (edited)
2:53 PM
Actually.... Im gonna create a DOS image
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:10 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_protection#Video_game_console_systems
Copy protection
Copy protection, also known as content protection, copy prevention and copy restriction, is any effort designed to prevent the reproduction of software, films, music, and other media, usually for copyright reasons. Various methods have been devis...
3:10 PM
"When Sega's Dreamcast was released in 1998, it came with a newer disc format, called the GD-ROM. Using a modified CD player, one could access the game functionality. Using a special swap method could allow reading a GD-ROM game through a CD-ROM just using common MIL-CD (standard CD Boot loading, commonly found on Windows Installation Discs, Linux Live CDs, and others). Dreamcasts sold after October 2000 contain a newer firmware update, not allowing MIL-CD boot."
3:10 PM
who's the idiot that wrote this
3:12 PM
(MIL-CD has absolutely nothing to do with bootable CDs on PC platforms)
Hiccup 12/21/2017 3:15 PM
@Block57 Newer versions of dolphin let you run games from extracted files. You can use Dolphin (or Wiimm's ISO Tools) to extract the files and then you choose the folder containing the game's boot.dol as one of the game paths - the extracted game will show up in the game list.
Block57 12/21/2017 3:15 PM
Everything in Xenoblade is in a pkb archive, so I can't recompile if I wanted to.
3:16 PM
Unless I want to re-assemble the entire archive each time
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:26 PM
oh
3:26 PM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-xci-reader.492151/
[Release] XCI Reader
For the recent XCI game dumps i release a Information Reader/Extractor/Injector called XCI Reader. Disclaimer: Windows Defender Smart Screen detects...
3:26 PM
apparently there's a new "XCI" format for Switch games that's a full cartridge dump
3:26 PM
time to find one of these dumps and add it to rom-properties
Revo 12/21/2017 3:26 PM
why doesnt no$GBA support official debugger behavior
3:26 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 3:27 PM
i guess XCI is some made up name?
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:27 PM
dunno, could be from the official SDK
3:27 PM
then again, that'd probably be Nsomething
3:27 PM
switchbrew doesn't have documentation on this
3:28 PM
i need to find copies of both the old dump format and new one somewhere, but i don't know where scene releases are usually made :V
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 3:30 PM
ya tbh ive wondered too
3:30 PM
there has to be some way the groups agree on the numbers they put for every game
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:30 PM
http://nswdb.com/ has a database
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 3:31 PM
how many of the 37 are ports
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:32 PM
..hm, some of them are listed as region specific
3:32 PM
i don't think it's actually locked per se, but they have different voices or something
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 3:33 PM
like you can run it but itll be in that language?
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:33 PM
yes
3:33 PM
also i don't get the switch title id numbering
3:33 PM
BotW is `01007EF0-0011E000`
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 3:33 PM
holy fuck
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:33 PM
MK8DX is `01001520-00022000`
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 3:34 PM
gone is the nice and easy consistency
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:34 PM
1-2 Switch is `01000320-000CC000`
3:34 PM
there has to be some pattern to this
3:36 PM
3DS and Wii U title IDs had a sequential "unique ID"
3:36 PM
Wii/DS used the four-char game ID
3:37 PM
*DSi - no title ID on DS
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 3:39 PM
ah
3:40 PM
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:40 PM
.looking at the tool on gbatemp
3:40 PM
"Get Game Serial, ID, needed Firmware, Region from nswdb.com"
3:40 PM
so it doesn't actually read the cartridge header
3:41 PM
it just takes a CRC32 and uses the database
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 3:41 PM
lmao
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:41 PM
that isn't acceptable for RP
Hiccup 12/21/2017 3:41 PM
unliking the gbatemp post right now
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:41 PM
also on that note
3:41 PM
do 3DS games have something to indicate what firmware they need, other than the update partition in untrimmed cartridge dumps
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/21/2017 3:42 PM
good question
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 3:42 PM
oh, they do
3:42 PM
0x8 0x4 Core version (The Title ID low of the required FIRM)
3:42 PM
...tid low isn't it
3:44 PM
Wii U games have it in the disc header
divingkxt 12/21/2017 11:01 PM
How many people here have played the Blood Omen games?
11:02 PM
I know the DC version of Soul Reaver has a debug menu, but good luck trying to enable ti.
11:02 PM
*it
11:02 PM
The Windows version has command prompt arguments, but that's not been tested out well IMO.
GerbilSoft 12/21/2017 11:20 PM
TIL the three main variants of ARM Cortex are A, R, and M
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/21/2017 11:26 PM
leilei 12/22/2017 12:05 AM
i like vendorids
12:05 AM
8086 is the best fittng one
12:05 AM
10de's cool too, dont agree with their marketing department though (edited)
GerbilSoft 12/22/2017 12:07 AM
..10de is supposed to be a reference?
12:08 AM
intel also has 8087
divingkxt 12/22/2017 12:09 AM
Also, curious if anyone has looked into the DOS version of Tetris.
leilei 12/22/2017 12:10 AM
i could've sworn tcrf had an article on it
divingkxt 12/22/2017 12:10 AM
Someone did find that easter egg, but I have ran out of time to find it.
12:10 AM
The person did leave loads of clues behind in that Reddit though.
12:10 AM
So, anyone with IDA Pro (even Free) can find it.
12:10 AM
A way to access that easter egg is still not in the article.
12:11 AM
But I did add the revision differences.
GerbilSoft 12/22/2017 11:25 AM
@eientei https://github.com/Hotbrawl20/XCI-Reader/
Hotbrawl20/XCI-Reader
Contribute to XCI-Reader development by creating an account on GitHub.
11:26 AM
...it actually does read some of the file for info, not just crc32
11:26 AM
except some of the file sizes seem off
11:26 AM
1996488704 for "2GB"
11:26 AM
...the expected file size is the only thing it gets from the file without using the crc32 :V
11:27 AM
...oh jesus what
11:27 AM
that code is a terrible fucking mess
11:27 AM
https://github.com/Hotbrawl20/XCI-Reader/blob/master/Secret%20Switch%20reader/Form1.cs
Hotbrawl20/XCI-Reader
Contribute to XCI-Reader development by creating an account on GitHub.
11:28 AM
there's currently 37 releases on nswdb
11:28 AM
instead of looping over them, it has a giant nested if/else with hardcoded "release1", "release2", etc
11:28 AM
also "textBox1", "textBox2"
Deleted User 12/22/2017 2:47 PM
Bleck
2:50 PM
This code.... it looks like a toddler threw bit and snippets of it around
GerbilSoft 12/22/2017 5:30 PM
meanwhile i added basic ELF parsing to rom-properties, will add more fields later
5:30 PM
annoying thing is that 32-bit and 64-bit have different structure sizes, and byteswapping may be needed if e.g. looking at a PowerPC ELF on x86
Revo 12/22/2017 7:01 PM
hahahahahhahahaha
7:01 PM
hahahahaha.. game freak
7:01 PM
lol
7:01 PM
7:01 PM
this is still in the ROM
7:02 PM
at `8C00C10` in Emerald USA 1.0
7:02 PM
in order of gfx tilemap and palette
old acc! inactive 12/22/2017 7:04 PM
is that the gen 1/2 font
Revo 12/22/2017 7:04 PM
its unused because nothing points to it
7:04 PM
a beta G/S asset clearly
old acc! inactive 12/22/2017 7:04 PM
wew
Revo 12/22/2017 7:04 PM
probably for early menu tests
Revo 12/22/2017 7:23 PM
did you know the ultra ball gfx changed between r/s and emerald
7:23 PM
r/s
7:23 PM
emerald
ƒluƒƒу 12/22/2017 7:34 PM
must've decided it was insufficiently ultra
old acc! inactive 12/22/2017 8:13 PM
in the german debug rom the rival themes are called "BOY/GIRL-SUP"
8:13 PM
i thought that was amusing
Chorus Line 12/22/2017 8:15 PM
West of Loathing accidentally left unfinished previews of the upcoming DLC in the latest bugfix lol
old acc! inactive 12/22/2017 8:17 PM
also
8:17 PM
`CLOCK SLAVE`
divingkxt 12/22/2017 8:42 PM
@Revo They edited the ball because they wanted a shine on it.
Revo 12/22/2017 8:43 PM
we finished decompiling contest.s
8:44 PM
% is now 77%
8:44 PM
`pokemon_storage_system.o: 2.20% pokenav.o: 2.01% battle_anim_812C144.o: 1.89% easy_chat.o: 1.55% roulette.o: 1.44% slot_machine.o: 1.40% battle_2.o: 0.99% battle_anim_813F0F4.o: 0.85% contest_link_80C2020.o: 0.82% normal.o: 0.73% contest_ai.o: 0.71% ghost.o: 0.49% ice.o: 0.47% cable_car.o: 0.43% flying.o: 0.43% cute_sketch.o: 0.42% contest_effect.o: 0.40% battle_9.o: 0.39% water.o: 0.36% current.o: 0.34% pokedex_area_screen.o: 0.34% battle_1.o: 0.33% psychic.o: 0.31% dark.o: 0.30% pokemon_item_effect.o: 0.30% ground.o: 0.25% fight.o: 0.25% battle_intro.o: 0.24% rock.o: 0.24% contest_link_80C857C.o: 0.19% dragon.o: 0.18% pokedex_cry_screen.o: 0.14% fire_2.o: 0.14% bug.o: 0.12% battle_anim_81258BC.o: 0.10% roulette_util.o: 0.10% wisp_fire.o: 0.09% m4a_3.o: 0.08% pc_screen_effect.o: 0.08% poison.o: 0.05% fire.o: 0.05% unk_text_8095904.o: 0.03% cable_car_util.o: 0.02%`
8:44 PM
these are the remaining files in pokeruby
8:44 PM
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/22/2017 8:44 PM
Ooo
Gamma 12/22/2017 8:52 PM
They had specific classes for types?
8:52 PM
I suppose that makes sense
divingkxt 12/22/2017 9:42 PM
Eh...
9:43 PM
Sonic Mega Collection Plus appears to be using Megasis.
9:43 PM
https://segaretro.org/Megasis
Megasis
Megasis is a Sega Mega Drive emulator for Windows, written by Japanese developers J.T. and BORI. Megasis supports most standard features such as gamepad support, save state support and a slight form of graphical acceleration by allowing Surface M...
9:43 PM
This emulator.
ƒluƒƒу 12/22/2017 9:43 PM
oh wow
divingkxt 12/22/2017 9:43 PM
MEGASIS @ 0x2562F1.
9:44 PM
It may also be why certain things run a little fast.
9:49 PM
Considering it did support overclocking.
9:49 PM
Running at 8 MHz rather than 7.67 MHz.
9:51 PM
SEGA NN Library for PlayStation2 (edited)
9:51 PM
Ver 1.14.00 Build:Aug 18 2004 22:08:51
9:51 PM
%s Version %s (C) SEGA Corporation Creative Center Graphics Sect.
9:55 PM
There's a dummy file which consists of nothing but zeroes.
9:55 PM
It's there solely for padding the disc to outer layers and speeding up disc reads.
ゲームボーイ64 12/22/2017 10:18 PM
Which game would this be?
10:18 PM
Mega collection plus?
divingkxt 12/22/2017 10:18 PM
Yep.
ゲームボーイ64 12/22/2017 10:19 PM
I've worked on a disc image without the dummy file, it doesn't even boot on dev hardware, so the dummy bin file needs to be there even if it's only a few bytes
divingkxt 12/22/2017 10:20 PM
Makes sense considering this is intended to prevent the game from being pirated.
ゲームボーイ64 12/22/2017 10:20 PM
I need to get around to trying it out
divingkxt 12/22/2017 10:20 PM
On top of disc speeds.
ゲームボーイ64 12/22/2017 10:20 PM
Surprised it wasn't in either version of gems collection (JP or EU) (edited)
10:22 PM
You could call it an "Anti-Piracy feature" and have evidence that it doesn't work
divingkxt 12/22/2017 10:26 PM
Also, Taito Legends uses MAME.
10:26 PM
No shock there.
10:30 PM
"PROGRAMED T.YOSHIKAWA" - Unknown game
10:33 PM
PROGRAMMERT.YOSHIKAWAT.MURATA
10:34 PM
Also...
10:34 PM
FILES.DAT has no file listing included. FILES.HDR does have one, though not easily human readable. (edited)
10:35 PM
Fuse map produced by universal programmer
ゲームボーイ64 12/22/2017 11:35 PM
Hmm
11:35 PM
Well I could tell you that it would; I looked at the pc files and it's all too obvious.
11:35 PM
Memories & Legends 2 (PS2 US) though are a different story
ゲームボーイ64 12/22/2017 11:44 PM
They were developed by taito, not empire
divingkxt 12/22/2017 11:51 PM
Legends 2 is by Empire, but Memories is Taito.
divingkxt 12/23/2017 12:42 AM
"By the way, This is a naughty illegal hacked copy, and as such cannot be allowed to exist so it will self-destruct in 60 seconds. I suggest that you buy a proper copy, and while your there get House of Usher and Moonbuggy also by Anirog."
12:43 AM
Guess which game this is from.
ゲームボーイ64 12/23/2017 12:50 AM
Legends 2 on the PS2 (in the USA at least) was developed by taito
12:50 AM
ummm I have no clue
divingkxt 12/23/2017 12:57 AM
Jumpjet on the Amstrad CPC.
12:58 AM
Thing is... how do you see that message?
12:58 AM
Obviously by poking, but which memory address.
ƒluƒƒу 12/23/2017 1:00 AM
i'm assuming you see it spelled out in the ash and soot after the copy explodes in your face
divingkxt 12/23/2017 1:01 AM
General Instrument CP1610 1979 12/23/2017 1:50 AM
Holy shit that's terrifying
1:50 AM
What game is that?
leilei 12/23/2017 2:02 AM
not quite matt furniss tier though
General Instrument CP1610 1979 12/23/2017 2:04 AM
Matt Furniss doesn't immdiatelly destroy your system.
karmic 12/23/2017 2:05 AM
it's almost certainly a lie lmao
divingkxt 12/23/2017 2:06 AM
@General Instrument CP1610 1979 Fruit Snapper on the ZX Spectrum.
2:07 AM
A fruit machine/Pacman mash-up.
leilei 12/23/2017 2:13 AM
i'd be worry about your legs though
2:13 AM
legs > system
divingkxt 12/23/2017 12:29 PM
Holy cow, TCRF is getting hammered on Christmas Eve's Eve.
Nex 12/23/2017 12:33 PM
hammered by what though
12:33 PM
wii sports betas????
divingkxt 12/23/2017 12:34 PM
Nah, traffic.
12:34 PM
It's loading really slow now.
GerbilSoft 12/23/2017 12:38 PM
anyone here have Win10 and MSVC
12:40 PM
`#include <windows.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <string.h> int main(void) { char buf[128]; SYSTEMTIME st; int ret; buf[0] = 0; GetSystemTime(&st); ret = GetDateFormatA(MAKELCID(LOCALE_USER_DEFAULT, SORT_DEFAULT), DATE_MONTHDAY, &st, NULL, buf, 128); printf("ret = %d, buf = %s\n", ret, buf); return 0; }`
12:40 PM
i need someone on Win10 to compile and run this and copy the results
Incineroar 12/23/2017 12:45 PM
i'm on my tablet but i don't have VS installed on it, sorry :(
GerbilSoft 12/23/2017 12:47 PM
k
Incineroar 12/23/2017 12:48 PM
if you had a precompiled version i'd run it at least
Revenant 12/23/2017 12:52 PM
newest i have is 8.1 and i'm not at home with it anyway
Biscuiteer 12/23/2017 1:23 PM
oookay... i don't know if i did this correctly... but this is what i got
1:23 PM
`ret = 0, buf =` (edited)
1
GerbilSoft 12/23/2017 2:20 PM
on Windows 10?
2:20 PM
@Biscuiteer
Biscuiteer 12/23/2017 2:35 PM
yes
2:36 PM
win10 Home, version 1703
GerbilSoft 12/23/2017 2:38 PM
hm, odd
2:38 PM
maybe it needs a manifest indicating win10 compatibility
2:38 PM
will check later
divingkxt 12/23/2017 4:49 PM
https://pastebin.com/igG8R1Jd
All positioning is RELATIVE and not ABSOLUTE. - Pastebin.com
4:53 PM
A bunch of old school programmer jokes.
divingkxt 12/23/2017 5:28 PM
" Help - I´m trapped at Imagic and they´re forcing me to write stupid games like this one. "
Nex 12/23/2017 5:42 PM
eientei 12/23/2017 6:41 PM
@divingkxt What platform are those from?
divingkxt 12/23/2017 6:43 PM
The first link? No idea.
6:43 PM
The quote I posted is allegedly from BMX Kidz on the C64.
eientei 12/23/2017 6:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCDlD7S7hN8
Ryan Holtz
DJ Hero 2 Prototype - "Love Game" vs. "Let's Get It Started"
punk7890 12/23/2017 7:22 PM
hi
Nex 12/23/2017 7:34 PM
yo
GerbilSoft 12/23/2017 7:35 PM
`== Reading file 'loader.elf'... -- Executable and Linkable Format Executable detected CPU: 'PowerPC or Cisco 4500' OS ABI: 'UNIX System V' Format: '32-bit Big-Endian'`
7:35 PM
whee
7:35 PM
added OS ABI decoding
7:35 PM
it's generally set to System V for things like wii etc, even though it doesn't actually apply
GerbilSoft 12/23/2017 7:57 PM
`== Reading file './bin/rpcli'... -- Executable and Linkable Format Executable detected CPU: 'AMD64' OS ABI: 'GNU/Linux' Format: '64-bit Little-Endian' Linkage: 'Dynamic' Interpreter: '/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2'`
7:57 PM
now reads the PT_INTERP section
divingkxt 12/23/2017 8:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynOcED-loX4
Larry Bundy Jr
Top 5 Offensive Easter Eggs | Fact Hunt
8:10 PM
Turns out the thumbnail is a spoiler in of itself.
GerbilSoft 12/23/2017 10:21 PM
`== Reading file 'homebrew_launcher.rpx'... -- Nintendo Wii U RPX Executable detected CPU: 'PowerPC or Cisco 4500' OS ABI: 'Cafe OS' Format: '32-bit Big-Endian' Linkage: 'Dynamic' Entry Point: '0x02000504'`
10:22 PM
Wii U RPX/RPL is a slightly modified ELF format - most of the 'changes' is in the import/export table format and the fact that most sections are compressed
10:22 PM
the header is the same
Deleted User 12/24/2017 2:41 AM
That's not a very nice thumbnail.
divingkxt 12/24/2017 2:55 AM
Yeah, it's not that advertiser friendly, more importantly.
2:55 AM
Surprisingly, the in-game footage is uncensored.
2:57 AM
Also, there's an article on the Amiga version already.
2:57 AM
All that's missing to add in the Atari ST version is the disk offset from that.
Dezent 12/24/2017 3:48 AM
eyyyy merry christmas to all of ya from Finland
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/24/2017 4:36 AM
tfw xmas is almost over in NZ
eientei 12/24/2017 6:34 AM
tfw xmas just beginning in NZ
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/24/2017 6:40 AM
eientei 12/24/2017 7:49 AM
Elyos 12/24/2017 9:22 AM
Merry christmas from Australia
eientei 12/24/2017 9:33 AM
Merry "You're 3 and a half hours late" from NZ
eientei 12/24/2017 10:04 AM
https://github.com/derrekr/fastboot3DS
derrekr/fastboot3DS
fastboot3DS - A homebrew bootloader for the Nintendo 3DS that is similar to android's fastboot.
old acc! inactive 12/24/2017 10:37 AM
cool
Smoke 12/24/2017 11:22 AM
https://tcrf.net/Kripto_I%C5%9Flemler_Ile_Zengin_Olma_Hayali
Kripto_I%C5%9Flemler_Ile_Zengin_Olma_Hayali
Nex 12/24/2017 12:16 PM
merry christmas guys
Jill 12/24/2017 12:29 PM
Merry christmas!
Foas 12/24/2017 12:38 PM
U 2
divingkxt 12/24/2017 12:45 PM
@Smoke Deleted that.
12:45 PM
There were also a few other spambots that registered throughout the morning.
12:46 PM
I've banned all of them.
karmic 12/24/2017 12:46 PM
is this their christmas present for us? how nice of them
Smoke 12/24/2017 12:46 PM
yay
divingkxt 12/24/2017 1:10 PM
https://tcrf.net/Predator_(ZX_Spectrum)
Predator (ZX Spectrum)
1:10 PM
Hooey.
1:10 PM
What a rant this is.
divingkxt 12/24/2017 2:19 PM
"Terribly good show old chap. We never managed that and we wrote the game."
Revenant 12/24/2017 2:29 PM
i meant to delete that spam article but i'm on my work laptop and i couldn't remember my password
2:29 PM
oh well
divingkxt 12/24/2017 3:53 PM
http://videogame-easter-eggs.tumblr.com/post/80795745865/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-2013
Video Game Easter Eggs
Assassin's Creed IV : Black Flag (2013)
Hidden in the sound files of Assassin’s Creed IV, is a secret message from John from IT. The recording is as follows : ‘Hahahahahahaha Ahhh. Hey. You clever little hacker, you found me! Well....
Chorus Line 12/24/2017 4:24 PM
@divingkxt Wonder which magazine he's talking about?
divingkxt 12/24/2017 4:24 PM
Beats me, since there's no record of this magazine in question.
4:25 PM
Not even on World of Spectrum, and that's as comprehensive as any site gets when it comes to 8-bit games.
Revenant 12/24/2017 4:26 PM
i think the magazine reference was supposed to be hypothetical
divingkxt 12/24/2017 4:27 PM
https://www.dualshockers.com/bloodborne-cut-boss-asset-fromsoftware/
Noah Buttner
Unused Bloodborne Boss "Great One Beast" Datamined and Defeated in New Video
While more and more details are being revealed about unused assets in Bloodborne, this time someone has actually found a boss in-game.
4:32 PM
Wait... " Resident Evil 1 is built on the source code for Goof Troop. "
4:32 PM
"There's a ton of source code from Goof Troop buried in the files, that much is certain. "
4:32 PM
Holy crap, someone dig that up.
Revenant 12/24/2017 4:35 PM
which platforms
divingkxt 12/24/2017 4:42 PM
PS1.
Revenant 12/24/2017 4:43 PM
wait, the SNES version of goof troop though?
divingkxt 12/24/2017 4:43 PM
Yes.
4:43 PM
Search up 'lda' in the ISo.
Revenant 12/24/2017 4:44 PM
i don't have it on me atm (or any of my usual stuff)
4:44 PM
i'll have to do it when i get home in a few days if nobody else does first
Revenant 12/24/2017 4:53 PM
https://twitter.com/6502lane/status/944965691710496769
Mike Maginnis (@6502lane)
This was announced on the LisaList. Pretty exciting if you’re a fan of the Apple Lisa.
Revenant 12/24/2017 5:12 PM
also apparently goof troop was designed by the creator of resident evil so i guess it makes sense that there could be leftover dev materials
5:12 PM
i just don't have any way to actually investigate that at the moment
divingkxt 12/24/2017 5:12 PM
"Thanks to Nick Wright,Trev Clarke, and anyone else who took the trouble to write in about 'RESCUE', it's nice when people do that. I was pretty peed off when no mag gave it a full review -except for Tony Worrall's brief mention (cheers!). Since then i've written 11 games on 5 different machines but only two were ever reviewed, it's so depressing. By the way,if you reached here without cheating, well done .'cos I couldn't! Finally, thanks to Kid Video for some of the most extensive play testing ever. Long Live Gary Numan! P.S. The worst thing about writing games is occasionally getting BUGS...IN MY...PROGRAM!...(GROAN)"
divingkxt 12/24/2017 5:31 PM
"The Excelerator System You Still Here I Write This 3 days After I Got Engaged And Im Deeply In Love So This Is Dedicated To All Those Hackers And Programmers Who Are In Love And Lets Do It To Them Before They Get Us Eh! And This Is Aslo Dedicated To Those People In Strides Grimsby Who Stuck A Mickey Finn In My Drink My Headache And New Technicolour Bathroom Is All Through Them.Programmers Do It While Rotating"
5:32 PM
"SPEEDUNLOCK IT ANY TIME PROTECTION SYSTEM DING RUDDY DING DING HELLO TO DEAN MANDI BEV SUPPOSE YOU WANT TO KNOW A BIT ABOUT ME THEN IM 21 LOVE CHEESE CAKE AND HATE GETTING UP IN A MORNING AND IM A PROGRAMMER ARENT WE ALL OH WELL MUST GO GLAD YOU FOUND THE MESSAGES"
5:32 PM
The last two are from various CRL group games, specifically hidden in the loading code.
5:32 PM
Including Jack the Ripper, the Last Mohican, Loads of Midnights, and Out Cast.
5:32 PM
All ZX Spectrum
5:33 PM
The first is from Canyon Warrior.
ゲームボーイ64 12/24/2017 5:33 PM
I just remembered something @divingkxt
5:33 PM
Sonic Mega Collection Plus without the dummy works on PCSX2
5:34 PM
But not on any usual console
5:34 PM
Could be something that pcsx2 doesn't do that the ps2 does?
divingkxt 12/24/2017 5:34 PM
Ah, so it's a dummy file used for properly reading stuff.
ゲームボーイ64 12/24/2017 5:34 PM
Hmmm
divingkxt 12/24/2017 5:34 PM
It doesn't do precise disk reading.
ゲームボーイ64 12/24/2017 5:34 PM
Are hey really pointed at by precise sector?
5:35 PM
Oh
divingkxt 12/24/2017 5:35 PM
In theory, you might be able to fit SMC+'s stuff on a GC disc. (edited)
5:35 PM
*fit
ゲームボーイ64 12/24/2017 5:35 PM
Well actually
5:36 PM
It's 10 MB too big if I'm not mistaken
5:36 PM
Or so
divingkxt 12/24/2017 5:36 PM
10 MB ain't much.
5:36 PM
Just compress the movies a little more.
ゲームボーイ64 12/24/2017 5:36 PM
No wait let me check the disk I made
divingkxt 12/24/2017 5:36 PM
1.3 GB is the max a GC disc can fit.
5:37 PM
Or is it 1.5 GB.
ゲームボーイ64 12/24/2017 5:37 PM
From the disk images of gc games I had they were all around 1.46GB
5:37 PM
Precisely, I think
5:38 PM
Nope, the disk is 1.6GB
5:38 PM
About 140MB over the max
divingkxt 12/24/2017 5:38 PM
Oof.
5:38 PM
So close.
ゲームボーイ64 12/24/2017 5:39 PM
yeah
5:39 PM
if you removed some of the comics, then it'd fit
5:40 PM
or just found a way to compress them more than they already are
5:40 PM
they're already AFS (I know that's just a container), with PVMs inside
5:41 PM
afs isn't really compression, as it just adds a header for the files, so technically it takes up that much more space
5:42 PM
but if you did it right, you could fit it on a GC disc yes
5:42 PM
including the savestates, but that'd need a memory card bigger than 8Mb (bits, not bytes) (edited)
5:43 PM
sega could try to manufacture one or just compress the savestates
5:43 PM
either way, it would be possible
5:44 PM
I do wish there were some cheats for sonic gems collection to freeze the timer on the museum games
5:45 PM
I'll move this to a more relevant spot
Biscuiteer 12/24/2017 6:36 PM
i've got a pop quiz for you guys... can anyone name these three blizzard employees(?)
6:36 PM
6:37 PM
these exist on the tail end of where they store all of the minimap graphics in diablo 2
Huks 12/24/2017 6:39 PM
The first one is Gordon Freeman
divingkxt 12/24/2017 6:41 PM
Nope, I recognize none of them.
Biscuiteer 12/24/2017 6:42 PM
gordon frohman? looks a bit, yeah
divingkxt 12/24/2017 6:46 PM
Guess 1 for Portrait 1: http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,22180/
John Kubasco Video Game Credits and Biography - MobyGames
John Kubasco has been credited on games developed by the following companies: Blizzard Entertainment Inc., Vigil Games, Blizzard North, CI Games S.A., Shiny Entertainment, Inc., Kaos Studios, Ping0, LLC, Flagship Studios, 38 Studios, LLC., Big Huge Games, Inc., QASoft and Big Grub. This does not im...
6:47 PM
Guess 1 for Portrait 3: http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,11646/
Eric Sexton Video Game Credits and Biography - MobyGames
Eric Sexton has been credited on games developed by the following companies: Blizzard Entertainment Inc., Blizzard North, Gearbox Software LLC, 3D Realms Entertainment, Inc., TimeGate Studios, Inc., Crate Entertainment, LLC, 2K Australia Pty. Ltd, WayForward Technologies, Inc. and Workshop Entertain...
cuba200611 12/24/2017 7:13 PM
Hello.
MusashiAA 12/24/2017 7:18 PM
Cool and good site
Chorus Line 12/24/2017 7:19 PM
dabs
MusashiAA 12/24/2017 7:22 PM
Okay maybe not
Deleted User 12/24/2017 7:35 PM
Hey all!
7:38 PM
Reading some of the backlog shows me that this is definitely going to be quite interesting to idle In! :D
ゲームボーイ64 12/24/2017 7:45 PM
should the different versions of sega games for the ps2 be noted on TCRF
Deleted User 12/24/2017 7:51 PM
@GerbilSoft I saw ya post about Wii U RPXes. What tool are you poking at the HBL RPX with, if I may ask?
7:56 PM
Possible unused content in A Link to the Past https://www.zeldix.net/t1549-unused-room
Unused Room?
i found 2 unused room in the JP Rom i don't know if that's already known or not (bombs in chest doesnt belong there ) edit : they are also in us version it s
eientei 12/24/2017 8:13 PM
https://archive.org/details/netscape-communicator-3-0-2-source
Netscape Communicator 3.0.2 Source Tree : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
divingkxt 12/24/2017 8:30 PM
@MusashiAA Hello there, finding some stuff here.
8:30 PM
Just in time for Christmas.
8:31 PM
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Duke_Nukem_3D_(PC)
8:31 PM
Teflon is rapidly improving this, for one.
divingkxt 12/24/2017 8:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UfJK_Fsy4g
Matt Dante
Bloody Roar II - debug menu
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:02 PM
@Deleted User https://github.com/GerbilSoft/rom-properties
GerbilSoft/rom-properties
rom-properties - ROM Properties Page shell extension
9:02 PM
feature/ELF branch
Deleted User 12/24/2017 9:03 PM
Thanks @GerbilSoft !
cuba200611 12/24/2017 9:04 PM
Nice.
9:04 PM
What I would like to see is support for disk images, such as D64 for Commodore 64 floppy images.
9:05 PM
Or TAP for C64 tapes.
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:11 PM
I might look into that later
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:21 PM
that would be cool
9:22 PM
i always liked how VICE has a disk/tape directory viewer (w/ the PETSCII system font) built into the regular file open dialog
9:23 PM
but that's probably way out of scope for this :V
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:24 PM
I haven't added support for browsing disk/cart images, since yeah, out of scope
9:25 PM
Most I've done for that is e.g. partition tables for 3DS CCI and eMMC
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:27 PM
at least reading the names of C64 disks/tapes is really easy
9:27 PM
tape directory is at the very beginning and disk directory is always on track 18
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:28 PM
I have experience with CBM stuff so that isn't a problem
9:29 PM
Still wondering why they based PETSCII on the ASCII-63 draft instead of the 1968 spec when the PET 2001 was released in 1977
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:33 PM
weird since commodore was usually known for making good decisions
cuba200611 12/24/2017 9:34 PM
Yeah, but poor business decisions and the rise of IBM compatables eventually lead to their downfall in 1994.
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:44 PM
mostly poor business decisions
9:44 PM
:V
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:47 PM
for some reason my favorite commodore fact is tramiel's insistence that he named the company after a model of car that didn't exist yet
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:49 PM
i thought it was because he wanted to use military terms
ƒluƒƒу 12/24/2017 9:50 PM
clearly it was a hopeful plea to trick somebody to Please Give Me That Particular Car
9:50 PM
repeat it over and over and maybe some marketing guy with more optimism than sense will play ball!
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:52 PM
@GerbilSoft yes but he claims he specifically chose "Commodore" after seeing an Opel Commodore while traveling
9:52 PM
(the opel commodore was introduced in 1978)
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:52 PM
then idk
9:52 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_Commodore
Opel Commodore
The Opel Commodore was an executive car (E-segment) produced by Opel from 1967 to 1982. It is the six-cylinder variant of the Rekord with styling differences. The Commodore nameplate was used by Opel from 1967 to 1982. However, its nameplate/line...
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:52 PM
iirc his other military name ideas were all already taken by other companies
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:52 PM
...says 1967 to 1982?
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:53 PM
Not to be confused with Holden Commodore.
9:53 PM
oh dammit
9:53 PM
i played myself
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:53 PM
:V
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:54 PM
whatever, tramiel was still an idiot
cuba200611 12/24/2017 9:54 PM
Well, the company was founded in 1954.
9:54 PM
So most likely the naval rank.
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:54 PM
his obituary and other sources specifically say he claimed to have named it after the car (edited)
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:55 PM
"The company that would become Commodore Business Machines, Inc. was founded in 1954[3] in Toronto as the Commodore Portable Typewriter Company"
9:55 PM
so meh
Revenant 12/24/2017 9:56 PM
ok so wrong make of car but i'm pretty sure i'm still right about him having claimed some completely bogus reason
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 9:56 PM
wikipedia mentions that too
9:56 PM
"Tramiel gave this account in many interviews, but Opel's Commodore didn't debut until 1967, years after the company had been named"
Revenant 12/24/2017 10:04 PM
there's your dumb computer history fact of the moment, merry christmas (edited)
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 10:18 PM
hm, not sure if i want to add any more stuff to the ELF parser before merging it
10:18 PM
currently looks up CPU, has CPU-specific flags for all archs that are supported by the `file` program, checks for static vs dynamic linkage
10:19 PM
lists the interpreter if PT_INTERP is set
10:19 PM
and partially supports RPX
10:19 PM
also properly identifies position-independent executable vs. shared library
10:19 PM
...
10:19 PM
`./rpcli /bin/ls == Reading file '/bin/ls'... -- Nintendo Wii U RPX Executable detected`
10:19 PM
that's not right
10:21 PM
fixed, forgot to initialize isWiiU to false :V
Deleted User 12/24/2017 10:41 PM
The Nintendo addict in my is quite thankful for this tool that I have yet to build. Thanks!
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 10:50 PM
you're welcome
10:50 PM
granted it doesn't show that much info about RPXes
10:50 PM
(or ELFs for that matter)
10:50 PM
just that they're RPX and the entry point
10:51 PM
it does have some useful stuff for other nintendo things though
10:51 PM
divingkxt 12/24/2017 10:53 PM
http://codetapper.com/amiga/comedy/final-fight/
cuba200611 12/24/2017 10:54 PM
Richard Aplin, he did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqCR6xnv1kE
dwayne2005
Invade-a-Load
10:54 PM
And also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3uxf6S1p_I
Psylicium
C64 Tape Loader - Spore (1987) - Load N Play
10:56 PM
Namco, eat yer heart out!
divingkxt 12/24/2017 10:58 PM
Many of his games are also filled to the brim with rants.
cuba200611 12/24/2017 11:00 PM
Ah yes, programer rants.
divingkxt 12/24/2017 11:00 PM
If you see the link above, you'll notice someone reactivated a previously unused joke ending.
11:00 PM
To be honest, I wish it was kept on if you cheated.
Deleted User 12/24/2017 11:01 PM
@GerbilSoft Question - Does the `keys.conf` file have a "default" one listing what keys need put in for full functionality?
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 11:02 PM
doc/keys.conf.example
11:02 PM
also https://pastebin.com/bSDntRmv
[INI file] keys.conf for rom-properties 1.0 - Pastebin.com
11:02 PM
:V
divingkxt 12/24/2017 11:03 PM
You'd be amazed how many have been found so far, and yet how many haven't.
11:03 PM
We still are missing quite a few Amiga rants, including those not yet found.
Deleted User 12/24/2017 11:03 PM
Thanks Gerbil! Wanted to make sure, and I'm sorry!
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 11:03 PM
k
Deleted User 12/24/2017 11:04 PM
Holy shit that's a lot of keys already put in, haha. Thanks!
GerbilSoft 12/24/2017 11:04 PM
most aren't used right now
Deleted User 12/24/2017 11:06 PM
Still, nice job either way!
11:06 PM
Thanks!
eientei 12/24/2017 11:16 PM
So southern Phillipines is currently in a bad state
divingkxt 12/24/2017 11:17 PM
Yeah, typhoon hit them.
GW9 12/25/2017 12:18 AM
Heyo
12:18 AM
I like unused stuff in vg
12:18 AM
Thought I would come by for a visit.
Dezent 12/25/2017 12:19 AM
Question: what happened to left hand man
divingkxt 12/25/2017 12:20 AM
Hello.
12:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AhYQ485TVQ
Travis the Dragon
The Legend of Spyro : The Eternal Night - All Unused Spyro Voice Clips
GW9 12/25/2017 12:26 AM
We don't talk about LeftHandMan.
Dezent 12/25/2017 12:26 AM
Fair enough
Biscuiteer 12/25/2017 12:26 AM
isn't the answer simple? he lost his right hand man
Dezent 12/25/2017 12:26 AM
Welcome btw
cuba200611 12/25/2017 12:27 AM
No, it's that LeftHandMan is probally lewd.
GW9 12/25/2017 12:28 AM
No, LeftHandMan likes doing NSFW stuff.
divingkxt 12/25/2017 12:36 AM
https://santatracker.google.com/
Google Santa Tracker
Use Google Santa Tracker to follow Santa Claus on Google Maps as he makes his journey around the world.
12:36 AM
Almost over.
12:37 AM
"Hi there! Are you interested in learning about how the helper elves build Santa Tracker?
12:37 AM
Watch us ‍‍ on the Chrome Developers Channel: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNYkxOF6rcIAQ-xb-Y04twWvKJU6N2UVm
Santa Tracker - Developer Diary - YouTube
Learn about how Santa's helper elves build Google Santa Tracker on the web this holiday season — hosted by Sam (https://twitter.com/samthor).
12:38 AM
Or find the source code on GitHub: https://github.com/google/santa-tracker-web"
Hâlian (ping in replies) 12/25/2017 1:59 AM
Merry Christmas
1:59 AM
https://www.techspot.com/news/72437-renewed-proposal-seeks-dmca-exemption-abandoned-online-games.html
Renewed proposal seeks DMCA exemption for "abandoned" online games
Every three years the US Copyright Office reviews and renews the DMCA’s anti-circumvention provisions at which time it considers exemptions to the law. It is currently looking at a proposal for allowing museums, libraries and archives to circumvent the DRM…
ShinyQuagsire 12/25/2017 2:44 AM
oh my gosh bless
2:44 AM
that would be great for like, SWG:EMU
2:46 AM
I think their current policy is still that you have to buy the game and patch, even though the main servers are down now
Laenthor 12/25/2017 3:46 AM
My friend loves messing with audio samples, like modifying pitches and stuff like that, so he made this cool voice modulator effect with his voice
3:46 AM
Then I told him it sounded similar to the 90's Yamaha soundchips and he made this
Halfbit 12/25/2017 7:20 AM
Merry Christmas everyone
Chorus Line 12/25/2017 7:40 AM
And to all, a goodnight
Justin3009 12/25/2017 8:15 AM
@Laenthor Lol I got a good laugh out of that
AlexEpisode 12/25/2017 10:13 AM
Hey
divingkxt 12/25/2017 12:56 PM
Merry Christmas.
ゲームボーイ64 12/25/2017 12:59 PM
divingkxt 12/25/2017 12:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8gmARGvPlI
WhamVEVO
Wham! - Last Christmas (Official Video)
12:59 PM
And RIP George Michael.
Biscuiteer 12/25/2017 1:40 PM
Merry Christmas?
2
divingkxt 12/25/2017 1:48 PM
https://tcrf.net/Duke_Nukem_3D_(PC)
Duke Nukem 3D (PC)
1:48 PM
Who wants this article to be featured?
1:48 PM
The maps still need to be documented more for the prototypes, but other than that...
Nex 12/25/2017 1:49 PM
I wouldn't mind it
Psythan 12/25/2017 2:30 PM
How would I go about sharing my Super Mario Sluggers disc for data mining?
divingkxt 12/25/2017 2:30 PM
That's a bit new.
2:30 PM
You'd probably be better off PMing people who ask.
Psythan 12/25/2017 2:32 PM
Alright. Who'd be good to ask?
divingkxt 12/25/2017 2:36 PM
No idea.
2:36 PM
Does anyone in here like Super Mario Sluggers?
2:37 PM
@Deleted User could do it, but he also has a billion other games to deal with.
divingkxt 12/25/2017 2:44 PM
The cutoff date for open sharing of something like that is 2006.
Deleted User 12/25/2017 2:47 PM
Yeah I'm up for it. Please send me a private message @Psythan
2:48 PM
Oh it's retail?
2:48 PM
Thought it was a proto
2:48 PM
Guess I can look at it anyways.
2:49 PM
Spikers was the one I was thinking of lol
MusashiAA 12/25/2017 2:49 PM
Only the edgiest Mario game
2:49 PM
Oh wait
2:49 PM
Its the bassball game
2:49 PM
not the soccer game
divingkxt 12/25/2017 2:50 PM
The edgiest Mario game would have been a volleyball game.
2:50 PM
Though the soccer games are plenty edgy.
2:50 PM
(Though to be fair, those weren't developed by Nintendo, only published)\
MusashiAA 12/25/2017 2:54 PM
Mario's Fucking Pissed Soccer
Revenant 12/25/2017 2:59 PM
Mario vs. Sonic in the XFL
eientei 12/25/2017 5:24 PM
@GerbilSoft Found out that I had rpcli in `/usr/bin/`, but `make install` puts it in `/usr/local/bin/`. Took me too long to realise all because of an update to libtinyxml2
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 5:25 PM
f
5:25 PM
set -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
eientei 12/25/2017 5:25 PM
Nah, just removed it from where I manually installed it
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 5:25 PM
k
5:25 PM
currently adding stuff for ELF parsing (partially from the file command)
eientei 12/25/2017 5:25 PM
Now just to figure out how to install it in xfce...
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 5:26 PM
if XFCE was enabled when building packages, it should 'just work'
5:26 PM
may have to restart tumblerd or some other stuff
eientei 12/25/2017 5:26 PM
My career in IT support has made me realise that "just work" never works
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 5:26 PM
:V
eientei 12/25/2017 5:32 PM
Ok, so Thunar doesn't give any Rom Properties tab
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 5:40 PM
check: `/usr/lib64/thunarx-2/rom-properties-xfce.so`
5:40 PM
or `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/thunarx-2/rom-properties-xfce.so`
5:40 PM
...or did they upgrade thunar to gtk3
eientei 12/25/2017 5:43 PM
`/usr/lib/thunarx-2/rom-properties-xfce.so` exists
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 5:44 PM
strace thunar 2>&1 | fgrep thunarx (edited)
5:44 PM
er
5:44 PM
no dash
5:44 PM
`stat("/usr/lib64/thunarx-2/thunar-apr.so", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=35808, ...}) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/thunarx-2/thunar-apr.so", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 17 stat("/usr/lib64/thunarx-2/rom-properties-xfce.so", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=953568, ...}) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/thunarx-2/rom-properties-xfce.so", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 17`
eientei 12/25/2017 5:44 PM
`openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib/libthunarx-2.so.0", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3`
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 5:45 PM
that's it?
5:45 PM
locate thunar-apr.so
eientei 12/25/2017 5:45 PM
`/usr/lib/thunarx-2/thunar-apr.so`
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 5:45 PM
...for some reason thunar isn't loading any extensions
5:51 PM
http://www.fark.com/comments/9851378/Its-not-your-imagination-The-Apple-IIe-you-used-in-school-actually-is-faster-than-new-computer-Kindle-tablet-you-opened-this-morning
It's not your imagination. The Apple IIe you used in school actually is faster than the new computer and Kindle tablet you opened this morning
It's not your imagination. The Apple IIe you used in school actually is faster than the new computer and Kindle tablet you opened this morning
5:51 PM
key input latency
eientei 12/25/2017 5:56 PM
@GerbilSoft "i didnt implement these things called loops, cause i seriously dont know how to use them. I'm not that good in c# coding, but it works like it is. I'm more like the coder who codes it that it works"
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 6:01 PM
wat
6:01 PM
where's that from
eientei 12/25/2017 6:02 PM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-xci-reader.492151/page-2#post-7747687
[Release] XCI Reader
Don't use Google... Use DuckDuckGo instead. Google blocks a lot of these search queries and returns DMCA crap messages. Also, Google always tracks...
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 6:02 PM
crikey.
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 6:16 PM
`$ ./rpcli /bin/ls == Reading file '/bin/ls'... -- Executable and Linkable Format Executable detected CPU: 'AMD64' OS ABI: 'UNIX System V' Format: '64-bit Little-Endian' Linkage: 'Dynamic' Interpreter: '/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2' OS Version: 'GNU/Linux 3.2.0' Entry Point: '0x00005880 (Position-Independent)'`
eientei 12/25/2017 6:16 PM
You lie `== Reading file '/bin/ls'... -- ROM is not supported`
6:16 PM
:V
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 6:16 PM
this is new in 1.3
6:18 PM
`$ ./rpcli homebrew_launcher.rpx == Reading file 'homebrew_launcher.rpx'... -- Nintendo Wii U RPX Executable detected CPU: 'PowerPC or Cisco 4500' OS ABI: 'Cafe OS' Format: '32-bit Big-Endian' Linkage: 'Dynamic' Entry Point: '0x02000504`
eientei 12/25/2017 6:23 PM
@GerbilSoft Woop, suddenly decided to work
divingkxt 12/25/2017 6:23 PM
"1972-2000 Dedicated to Angela Atkinson"
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 6:24 PM
derp
eientei 12/25/2017 6:25 PM
My guess is that it was leftover stuff from an older build that was never overwritten
6:25 PM
Note to self: Do what it says in COMPILING.md
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 6:25 PM
:V
eientei 12/25/2017 6:27 PM
@GerbilSoft Can I get a command-line switch to have stuff like "8 KB" shown in bytes/hex for rpcli?
GerbilSoft 12/25/2017 6:39 PM
maybe later, idk
eientei 12/25/2017 6:58 PM
That's cool
cuba200611 12/25/2017 7:05 PM
Well, how do I install it if I use a non-Debian based distro?
7:06 PM
I use Manjaro, which is Arch-based.
7:06 PM
I mean the precompiled version, that is.
eientei 12/25/2017 7:15 PM
Just build from source
cuba200611 12/25/2017 7:15 PM
Ok.
7:16 PM
Yeah, I know how to do that, I was just wondering about installing the binary on non-Debain based distros...
eientei 12/25/2017 7:17 PM
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/debtap/
cuba200611 12/25/2017 7:18 PM
Oh, that looks like a nifty tool...
eientei 12/25/2017 7:22 PM
Yeah, used it to convert an in-house .deb file to Arch at work
cuba200611 12/25/2017 7:36 PM
Now I would like to see somebody add the program to the AUR (not the one to convert .deb, I mean) (edited)
eientei 12/25/2017 7:37 PM
Yeah, should be easy
eientei 12/25/2017 10:08 PM
@Incineroar That mobile news data has been moved somewhat in pokecrystal, now located in `mobile/news/news.asm` (edited)
Incineroar 12/25/2017 10:13 PM
Awesome
eientei 12/25/2017 10:16 PM
Also has a link to that forum post at the top
Algo648 12/25/2017 10:54 PM
Gamma 12/25/2017 11:09 PM
h0t
Deleted User 12/26/2017 3:55 AM
I personally built rom-properties myself by doing `cmake .` and letting that run, then doing `make`
4:00 AM
Shrug Arch, man, haha
eientei 12/26/2017 4:40 AM
You should have done `cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr`
4:41 AM
As per https://github.com/GerbilSoft/rom-properties/blob/master/doc/COMPILING.md
GerbilSoft/rom-properties
rom-properties - ROM Properties Page shell extension
Deleted User 12/26/2017 12:41 PM
I somehow fucking missed that file. Thanks!
Deleted User 12/26/2017 12:56 PM
To anyone with Win95/98
12:56 PM
https://twitter.com/libretro/status/945473269007777792
libretro (@libretro)
A new RetroArch is coming out today, and unlike so many other programs, we are actually going back even further in time and supporting even more old/ancient computers! Now it's Windows 95/Windows 98 First Edition's turn!
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cuba200611 12/26/2017 12:59 PM
That's something right there.
1:00 PM
Now what's next? DOS 3.3?
old acc! inactive 12/26/2017 1:04 PM
But can it run Doom? (edited)
GerbilSoft 12/26/2017 1:15 PM
How about Commodore DOS
1:16 PM
(bonus points if you know that Commodore DOS runs on the disk drive, not the computer :v}
cuba200611 12/26/2017 1:35 PM
Nay, now what about OS/360?
sirocyl 12/26/2017 1:52 PM
does RA actually do DOS, though? (edited)
GerbilSoft 12/26/2017 2:16 PM
<noob> lol Xbox 360 emulation
Jackson 12/26/2017 3:04 PM
hi all. who send me invite?
Jill 12/26/2017 6:36 PM
Debug menu in Furi.
6:36 PM
Deleted User 12/26/2017 6:36 PM
neat
Chorus Line 12/26/2017 6:39 PM
how?
Jill 12/26/2017 6:40 PM
Needs a patch to enable.
6:42 PM
Going to try and whip one up now.
Jill 12/26/2017 7:09 PM
Level select.
7:09 PM
Jill 12/26/2017 7:20 PM
Seems some commands might be disabled for whatever reason. I'll see if I can get them enabled then this patch should be ready.
Chorus Line 12/26/2017 7:41 PM
that's really neat
7:41 PM
loved that gaem
divingkxt 12/26/2017 9:08 PM
There's Ori and the Blind Forest too.
9:08 PM
That game has a debug menu that's pretty sizeable.
Jill 12/26/2017 9:17 PM
Has that not been documented?
divingkxt 12/26/2017 9:25 PM
Not on the wiki, no.
9:25 PM
But there are patches out there already.
9:26 PM
https://kb.speeddemosarchive.com/Ori_and_the_Blind_Forest#Debug_Mode
Ori and the Blind Forest
9:26 PM
No Hyper Light Drifter yet either.
Chorus Line 12/26/2017 11:37 PM
Honest question: how do people find out about debug menus like that? Can the find it out by like hacking the game?
11:37 PM
Having to create a new file for it, I mean
old acc! inactive 12/26/2017 11:37 PM
fiddling and poking around game files and such
11:39 PM
to see if there's any remnants of debugging functions
divingkxt 12/27/2017 12:06 AM
@Chorus Line Usually by hacking the game, yes.
12:06 AM
The difficulty highly varies, because sometimes bits and pieces of it can be deleted.
12:07 AM
Other times, all that can be seen are the texts for it.
12:07 AM
You will need an actual debugger that can work while the game is running though.
12:08 AM
The ones I find are usually very trivial to activate, either through config file edits or command line arguments/parameters. (edited)
12:11 AM
If by creating a new file, you mean making a patch file, usually when hex edits or cheat codes aren't enough.
Revo 12/27/2017 12:17 AM
i just encountered the weirdest gfx dump in pokeemerald by far
12:17 AM
rayquaza_tail
12:17 AM
12:18 AM
so when i went to extract this and recompressed it, it wasnt the right size, so i was like, ok, other num_tiles
12:18 AM
gba graphics editor says 1 discarded tile, so 2x18 - 1, 35 tiles
12:18 AM
nope
12:18 AM
huh.
12:18 AM
so, i had to take a closer look, and i noticed 4bpp was seemingly the wrong size in paint where it appeared to be 2x17
12:18 AM
played around with this file for a while, wasnt sure what was wrong
12:18 AM
come to find out
12:19 AM
the 4bpp needed is actually 0x440 with an extra useless 0xC space at the end
12:19 AM
so had to make a makefile rule to cat the bytes before compressing
12:19 AM
then it worked
12:19 AM
what a bitch
12:19 AM
it also makes 0 sense: 0xC of extra space is not an extra tile
12:19 AM
indicative of a bug in game freak's compressor
Incineroar 12/27/2017 9:37 AM
@Revo that's in Ruby? That'd look like something from Emerald given the cutscene in Sootopolis City... Edit: oh, pokeemerald, derp (edited)
LarryLemmy 12/27/2017 2:20 PM
Has anyone checked Big Rigs to see if there's any trace of the Nightride level (the one that makes the game crash)? I was going to check myself but I can't help but feel it may have already been done
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/27/2017 2:21 PM
YOU'RE WINNER! (edited)
cuba200611 12/27/2017 2:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNJM4Plnj6w
PerfectFlawlessWin
A Winner is You!
Nex 12/27/2017 6:36 PM
Unused Area in lego the hobbit
6:36 PM
right over it is this
Nex 12/27/2017 6:50 PM
1_6HIGHPASSB_PATHTEST
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/27/2017 7:02 PM
@LarryLemmy i believe that patch which fixed the typo also fixed the level
LarryLemmy 12/27/2017 7:05 PM
From what I read the patch simply replaced it with a mirror of another level
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/27/2017 7:06 PM
ah i see
7:06 PM
that would make sense
Nex 12/27/2017 8:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NSMTknz3sw I recorded the unused level
Nex TheUser
Lego The Hobbit | Unused Level | 1_6HIGHPASSB_PATHTEST
Incineroar 12/27/2017 9:40 PM
@LarryLemmy i think i actually have that game installed
9:41 PM
yup
9:42 PM
i remember when i went backwards so fast i actually broke the debug coordinates display
divingkxt 12/27/2017 9:42 PM
Floating point overload fun.
Incineroar 12/27/2017 9:42 PM
and i'm pretty sure i was close to overflowing the speedometer in the negative direction
9:43 PM
literally classmates and I just sat and held the down button on my keyboard for like 20 minutes
9:43 PM
it was fun to watch the game just fall apart
9:47 PM
well rip
Incineroar 12/27/2017 9:54 PM
cool. that website that had all those corocoro scans is still around in the archive
9:54 PM
but the images aren't super high res
9:54 PM
and i can't find the scan i'm looking for
Incineroar 12/27/2017 10:06 PM
i should see if i can find what issue of corocoro it was specifically and see if i can request someone scan the specific page
10:06 PM
i think there's a low-res version of it on serebii
emma ミ☆ 12/27/2017 10:55 PM
i love it
Incineroar 12/27/2017 11:00 PM
it's a great site when it works
Incineroar 12/27/2017 11:09 PM
ah
11:09 PM
found the exact page I need
11:10 PM
i really had to look around for this
11:10 PM
it's not a really large page, but it's good enough for what I need
11:10 PM
gonna save it so I won't lose it again
Deleted User 12/27/2017 11:28 PM
@Nex how'd you load the area?
Nex 12/27/2017 11:59 PM
@Deleted User with the hidden level select
12:00 AM
I think the tcrf.net article on lego marvel super heroes has a mini tutorial on how to enable it
Deleted User 12/28/2017 1:16 AM
1:16 AM
neat
Elyos 12/28/2017 5:09 AM
@Jill Oh hello o/
Jill 12/28/2017 5:27 AM
Oh hi.
eientei 12/28/2017 5:36 AM
o/
Nex 12/28/2017 1:44 PM
is it okay to document unobtainable characters that are used in the game but do have unseeable data like names to them?
BatElite 12/28/2017 2:04 PM
I think that's fine. If I remember some pages already do.
Nex 12/28/2017 2:05 PM
like, you won't see anything new but I wanna point out that these were planned to be obtainable at some point or are just leftover data
BatElite 12/28/2017 2:16 PM
Like this? https://tcrf.net/Tactics_Ogre:_Let_Us_Cling_Together_(PlayStation)#Character_Oddities
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (PlayStation)
2:16 PM
Otherwise I'm not sure
Nex 12/28/2017 2:17 PM
exactly
Deleted User 12/28/2017 2:45 PM
Yay
LarryLemmy 12/28/2017 3:50 PM
Do prereleases only go in the "Prerelease" category? Not the "x series" category? (edited)
inactive 12/28/2017 5:00 PM
Deleted User 12/28/2017 5:19 PM
Lol
5:20 PM
@LarryLemmy they dont go into series categories
LarryLemmy 12/28/2017 5:20 PM
Thought not
RoozerXC 12/28/2017 6:27 PM
Hello!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/28/2017 6:36 PM
welcome
Azure 12/28/2017 7:55 PM
7:55 PM
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Revenant 12/28/2017 8:05 PM
ah the cat-ctus
Chorus Line 12/28/2017 8:06 PM
how kity no thorn?
divingkxt 12/28/2017 8:34 PM
The cacti are dethorned.
8:34 PM
Meaning that cat can get in that giant patch.
Halfbit 12/28/2017 8:37 PM
Looks cozy
Chorus Line 12/28/2017 9:08 PM
i wish i was that cat...
RoozerXC 12/28/2017 10:44 PM
My teacher loves cactus...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/29/2017 12:04 AM
12:05 AM
new emote
12:07 AM
If anyone is curious, Ratchet Deadlocked has this unused image in the files of every level in the game; it's the CEO of Insomniac Games photoshopped to have a mullet (edited)
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arthur! 12/29/2017 12:08 AM
that's great
ƒluƒƒу 12/29/2017 12:12 AM
mod that adds him as a secret superboss gogogogogo
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 12/29/2017 12:12 AM
>RAC mods
12:13 AM
aint happenin for a long time sadly (for the ps2 games at least)
ƒluƒƒу 12/29/2017 12:19 AM
honestly not surprised to hear that at all
12:19 AM
but hey if they have to start somewhere
12:19 AM
let it be this image on a flat slowly rotating square
Revenant 12/29/2017 12:53 AM
argh, it looks like downwell on windows had updated like right after i documented all the dummied out/debug stuff
12:54 AM
(maybe even on the same day?)
12:54 AM
need to update the article and make sure that shit didn't get removed
Revenant 12/29/2017 1:46 AM
lol the current exe is actually timestamped october 02 which was the same date i last updated the article
1:46 AM
damn
Revenant 12/29/2017 2:48 AM
there we go
Chorus Line 12/29/2017 2:53 AM
If unused content documented on the wiki is removed from the files in a patch, what's the protocol? Should the information be removed from the article as well, or should there be a note saying it was removed from the files?
Revenant 12/29/2017 2:58 AM
if it was removed entirely, just make a note of when that happened
2:58 AM
(the Minecraft article comes to mind, it has a whole subpage of that)
2:58 AM
if the patch caused content to become used in the game, then just remove it from the article since it's not unused anymore
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/29/2017 7:41 AM
as long as the released content is 1:1 to what was unused
7:41 AM
splatoon had some early icons to unreleased downloads that they ended up changing
TESTACCOUNT 12/29/2017 8:21 AM
Are we allowed to talk about Switch games?
eientei 12/29/2017 9:01 AM
Why wouldn't you be allowed to
Lucario 12/29/2017 9:31 AM
hi (edited)
9:33 AM
Is this a Yo Kai Watch server?
eientei 12/29/2017 9:36 AM
...No?
9:36 AM
He left 2 minutes after asking that so, ok
FMecha 12/29/2017 9:37 AM
Sega Amusements accidentally leaks DCUSA (by placing an update for the game on the interwebs as full dump of the game) and there's a debug menu in it. (edited)
9:38 AM
https://twitter.com/Tedward618/status/946185135992528896
Ted (@Tedward618)
So, Sega. Please tell me how on earth you've managed to release Daytona 3 on the internet in its entirety just months after release This is both hilarious and absolutely tragic at the same time @arcadeheroes @PhantomImpulse @SaturnMemories
9:38 AM
http://www.emuline.org/topic/1190-arcade-daytona-3-upgrade-sega-amusements-like-europa-r-system/?page=4&tab=comments#comment-22667
[Arcade] Daytona 3 / Upgrade (Sega Amusements like Europa-R System)
2 minutes ago, sonic323 said: How do I run shell.exe? I can not run, I want to get to the test menu. No mistake ... Does any...
2Tie 12/29/2017 2:27 PM
day ee tow naaaaa
2:29 PM
give it away
Luminar 12/29/2017 3:22 PM
https://tcrf.net/Category:Hu so lonely...
Category:Hu
Glisp 12/29/2017 4:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbxtyB0lJWc
glitchhunter09
Trespasser - E3 Proto Raptor with Proto Bones in Final Game
4:37 PM
I didn't port the model btw
4:38 PM
machf did, but it was by me fixed using his directions on how to fix it.
Nex 12/29/2017 8:02 PM
how tf are there 4 dislikes
Deleted User 12/29/2017 8:26 PM
@FMecha Did you grab a copy of the "update"?
FMecha 12/29/2017 8:27 PM
I didn't
divingkxt 12/29/2017 8:43 PM
Nex: Probably because the model looks comically bad. (edited)
8:44 PM
Also, they likely didn't know about/care about the context.
Nex 12/29/2017 8:57 PM
true dat
8:58 PM
to be fair the model is passable but the animations are a bit weird
divingkxt 12/29/2017 9:11 PM
And no commentary on why those animations are special in any way.
divingkxt 12/30/2017 12:27 AM
https://tcrf.net/SNES_Classic_Edition This got a huge fix-up.
SNES Classic Edition
Chorus Line 12/30/2017 1:20 AM
Is that message only in the PAL/USA versions?
Revenant 12/30/2017 1:20 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Downwell/comments/73xkgh/dissecting_downwell_debug_mode_shoplifting_and/drxzv1b/
Dissecting Downwell: debug mode, shoplifting, and more • r/Downwell
I use Altar.NET, a tool for unpacking the data.win files used by Game Maker Studio games. One of the...
1:20 AM
actually writing stuf about my methods for once
1:21 AM
i wanted to write some blog posts about SNES debug mode findings etc. but i don't have one to post on
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:22 AM
@Chorus Line Tough to say since I don't think many people have a JP firmware dump.
Deleted User 12/30/2017 2:06 AM
https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/1372/ is a thing TIL
Okami HD (PC) Encrypter/Decrypter
[b]A simple encrypter/decrypter for Okami HD (PC).[/b] In this port pretty much all files are enc
eientei 12/30/2017 2:08 AM
http://aluigi.org/bms/okami_hd.bms
punk7890 12/30/2017 2:47 AM
o forgot that game was coming out on PC
2:48 AM
someone should find that unused level that was in a tech demo from a really early trailer. I made a level modifier code for the PS2 version but never did fully figure out how that game uses level IDs so I never did end up finding it
2:50 AM
https://tcrf.net/Talk:%C5%8Ckami_(PlayStation_2) probably useless now but if anyone wants to fiddle with it
Talk:%C5%8Ckami_(PlayStation_2)
Deleted User 12/30/2017 3:10 AM
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3784/ is also a neat thing imo
Super Mario Land 2 DX
Super Mario Land 2 DX is a color hack for Super Mario Land 2 in the same vein as Link’s Awakening
3:11 AM
That definitely looks fascinaating, @punk7890
3:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0fONFjeM_A is a video of the place that Punk mentioned. Wow.
LXShadow
Okami: Secret Prototype Level
3:17 AM
To be quite honest, I'm amazed that the PS2 can render all of this at once
punk7890 12/30/2017 3:26 AM
yeah that person just kept the code + level ID to himself
3:27 AM
shame
Deleted User 12/30/2017 3:27 AM
If I can find it, I'll throw a copy of the JPN ISO your way for the PS2 version, okay @punk7890 ?
punk7890 12/30/2017 3:29 AM
wouldn't really help
3:29 AM
but thanks for the offer
3:30 AM
the filesystem iirc was kinda a mess to begin with (edited)
Deleted User 12/30/2017 3:30 AM
Oh fun
3:32 AM
`<rom name="Ookami (Europe) (En,Fr,De).iso" size="3389620224" crc="9944a1b7" md5="c72652c461819c72f3ab2987802443f5" sha1="a9f1e9045ea0115105d1fe51b09f8a232ff5d32f"/> <rom name="Okami (USA).iso" size="3967877120" crc="3c37758b" md5="bddad007952b3f04d129dcb14fa85b47" sha1="b62790ebc844ae4e8fcc2d9ebe52e730ccadb4c1"/> <rom name="Ookami (Japan).iso" size="4279599104" crc="d8cf1821" md5="ec6dc2c6339af71a6dc7076cf72156e7" sha1="4bad6b3e1b074616b11110a736188be874d5e3b2"/>` (edited)
3:32 AM
FOr the record, from the Redump.dat from `20170827 23-51-07`
punk7890 12/30/2017 3:32 AM
there's also a beta JPN version that was on the internet at one point but doesn't seem to exist anymore
3:32 AM
would be interesting to look at
Deleted User 12/30/2017 3:32 AM
Well shite
3:34 AM
Very quick searching found https://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/19/okami-prototype/ (Only info afaict)
Okami [Beta - PS2 / Wii] - Unseen64
Okami in its beta version was much different from the final one. The game was originally planned to be rendered in a more photorealistic 3D style. However, Clover Studios determined that the more colorful sumi-e style allowed them to better convey Amaterasu’s association with nature and the task of restoring…
3:35 AM
http://okami.wikia.com/wiki/Beta Some more info
Beta
"Beta" is a term that refers to early versions of a game that is currently under developments, and as such, is different from the final version. These early versions are used for tests to...
punk7890 12/30/2017 3:39 AM
I've been kinda out of ideas what PS2 games to search in. Anyone have any ideas of what some games that might have debug content in them? (edited)
Deleted User 12/30/2017 3:41 AM
`Okami_JAP_BETA_PS2DVD-McDonalds` was apparently a thing I need to find
punk7890 12/30/2017 3:49 AM
yeah I think that's the one I saw as well
3:49 AM
just the name though
Deleted User 12/30/2017 3:49 AM
I need to find it now...
punk7890 12/30/2017 3:50 AM
good luck. I think someone from HiddenPalace was trying to find it as well but gave up
mikirezi 12/30/2017 3:54 AM
ive been trying to look through Dance Summit 2001 for PS2 and i think there might be at least debug text, not sure though
3:54 AM
total newbie when it comes to this kind of stuff
punk7890 12/30/2017 3:58 AM
I'll note it down
3:58 AM
and have a look sometime
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 9:52 AM
Hello guys
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:09 AM
http://randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.com/bomb/pc-atom/site/atomic.html
10:09 AM
has anyone seen the bmandemo here somewhere else
leilei 12/30/2017 10:11 AM
yes
10:11 AM
it's no rare thing
10:11 AM
very mirrored
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:11 AM
Cant find it
10:12 AM
the link in that page links to interplay ftp
10:12 AM
which needs a pass
leilei 12/30/2017 10:13 AM
guess titus closed that down
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:14 AM
it's the first atomic bombrman pre-alpha demo
leilei 12/30/2017 10:14 AM
but it certainly wasn't a rare thing for years
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:14 AM
The 2nd one can be found easily
10:14 AM
but cant get this one
mikirezi 12/30/2017 10:15 AM
oh, sorry im not actually like someone who knows about that stuff haha. maybe you meant to ping someone else?
rampy 12/30/2017 10:17 AM
Oh oops I think I pinged the wrong person lol
10:17 AM
Sorry about that
mikirezi 12/30/2017 10:17 AM
no problem
leilei 12/30/2017 10:18 AM
i know bmandemo used to be on gamesdomain
rampy 12/30/2017 10:18 AM
I've briefly looked at the Cars game, albiet the Wii version. Pretty sure there's some debug stuff in there but my hard drive failed last month before I could do much with it. @punk7890
10:18 AM
I'm pretty sure there's a PS2 version
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:27 AM
dammit, it feels like the bmandemo is lost
10:27 AM
hopefully I get to find someone that has it
10:27 AM
Since google only gives me 3 search pages, and the first one doesn't help me a lot if at all
10:29 AM
ftp://ftp1.interplay.com/pub/demos/bmandemo.zip
10:30 AM
so close yet so far
10:36 AM
10:36 AM
fffffffffff
10:36 AM
last option gonna be asking myself for Atomic Bomberman files
leilei 12/30/2017 10:37 AM
they probably don't have the rights either to help with that. coughKonamicough (edited)
10:37 AM
i could've sworn i downloaded bmandemo at one point in the past though
Deleted User 12/30/2017 10:38 AM
Good luck finding it @ArcadeStriker - Honest.
leilei 12/30/2017 10:39 AM
another thing to check out is Nitro
10:39 AM
which is a bomberman clone, slightly earlier (~95-96) but plays similar (it also has 'crack' and 'poops'), by the same programmer kurt dekker (edited)
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:40 AM
10:40 AM
Still I'm really looking for the bmandemo as I felt wanting to document both alphas
leilei 12/30/2017 10:41 AM
i wouldn't be surprised if nitro was used as a pitch to interplay
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:41 AM
you think you have the bmandemo somewhere in your files?
leilei 12/30/2017 10:41 AM
maybe. or maybe it's bm95demo again. i'm not usre what i have anymore
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:42 AM
it should be checked just incase
10:42 AM
it may happen to be it out of luck
10:43 AM
Nitro certainly looks like Atomic Bomberman
10:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ctGNBKqW5U
Zeciorrr's Gaming
[DOS] Nitro! -- Gameplay
10:43 AM
This bg and level looks like classic green acres
10:44 AM
and the blue ghosts are present in Atomic Bomberman in the hidden campaign
leilei 12/30/2017 10:44 AM
kurt programmed a lot of clones while working at interplay
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:44 AM
there may be more of those enemies in AB too
leilei 12/30/2017 10:46 AM
and kurt's still around making unity games last time i checked
10:47 AM
maybe he might have hoarded bmandemo.zip
10:47 AM
so that's a possible last resort
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 10:48 AM
Is there even a way to contact Kurt
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 11:03 AM
11:03 AM
Atomic Bomberman is actually rather customizable and ahead of it's time
11:04 AM
Just that there hasn't been a lot made with it
11:04 AM
You can add stuff like extra quotes
11:04 AM
AKA it's possible to restore the profane (or non-profane) taunts
11:04 AM
maybe that is how they intended those voice clips to be used?
11:04 AM
11:05 AM
Atomic bomberman has trampolines?
leilei 12/30/2017 11:06 AM
i'm sure they were intending for a small text file "cusspack patch" like they similarly did for their other games around the time
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 11:06 AM
leilei 12/30/2017 11:06 AM
and atomic bomb probably would've been their ultimate cuss pack game
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 11:06 AM
If there are no trampolines in the game, this step on a trampoline thing is intereting
11:06 AM
And well, it's actually possible to add them back in
11:06 AM
either make them appear alongside the used ones
leilei 12/30/2017 11:07 AM
alpha betaerman
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 11:07 AM
or make the game Atomic F-Bomberman entirely
11:07 AM
There are some interesting things in the second alpha, which is why I want to document it
11:07 AM
the alpha even mentions when you close the game a "Classic Battle mode"
11:08 AM
which would have been the place where the CLASSICS.ANI bomberman sprites would get used, but sadly that mode got scrapped
11:09 AM
The reason I want to get the pre-alpha version is since the screenshots seem to have used the oldest set of item graphics
11:09 AM
and it's a "pre-alpha"
Hiccup 12/30/2017 11:15 AM
At the bottom of https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild_(Wii_U)#Memories is a weird sentence. Anyone know what it means? Also, that image is found in the Album folder, not memories (I will probably correct it in a moment). (edited)
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Wii U)
FMecha 12/30/2017 11:16 AM
Maybe only I noticed it since I'm a motorsport guy, but if you notice in Human GP 4 the tobacco sponsors are visible in the title screen (edited)
11:17 AM
Marlboro, Rothmans, Mild Seven are visible
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 11:21 AM
"; how many milliseconds to wait before a critical packet is declared overdue ; and needs to be re-sent. ; this can be adjusted based on expected network latency. if it is set too ; low then you will have many gratuitous retransmits and network performance ; will suffer. if it is set too high then the potential lag between the ; games (due to missed packets) can become noticeable and affect game ; integrity/synchronization. 1100,200 ; cancel - no net play. 1101,200 ; IPX 1102,750 ; modem 1103,400 ; serial 1104,400 ; TCP/IP"
11:21 AM
Atomic Bomberman may have supported more modes than IPX
leilei 12/30/2017 11:21 AM
surely it was a directplay game iirc (edited)
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 11:22 AM
Yes but you can only use IPX
11:22 AM
and you need to use IPXWrapper nowadays to play the game online
11:22 AM
I found this in the VALUELST.RES
leilei 12/30/2017 11:23 AM
though back in the day interplay didn't have tcpip in their big budget starfleet academy game either
11:23 AM
people had to kali that
Nex 12/30/2017 11:53 AM
definetly finished
eientei 12/30/2017 11:54 AM
What is Dumbledore doing with Roblox man
Nex 12/30/2017 11:54 AM
there is more than one of those
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/30/2017 11:54 AM
is it fine to move the BotW page to a general non console specific if the content is in both?
eientei 12/30/2017 11:56 AM
Yup
eientei 12/30/2017 12:21 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT asks, then `Hiccup moved page The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Wii U) to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild over redirect: moving page to cover Switch too`
!registerkey PPLTOasT 12/30/2017 12:21 PM
i smell a conspiracy here
eientei 12/30/2017 12:21 PM
Is there something you need to tell us ppl
leilei 12/30/2017 12:33 PM
might've found it?
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 12:38 PM
12:38 PM
Seems to be a different demo
12:39 PM
yes, it must be!
12:39 PM
The readme for the second one says June/July 1997
12:39 PM
speaking about this...
12:40 PM
12:40 PM
PCem does fredit
old acc! inactive 12/30/2017 12:40 PM
atomic bomberman?
12:40 PM
more like
12:40 PM
atomic f-bomberman
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 12:41 PM
Yes and no but maybe yes now
12:41 PM
obviously anyone that head from AB here knows about the swear voices and that they are unused
12:41 PM
but they can be restored back in
leilei 12/30/2017 12:44 PM
http://leileilol.mancubus.net/lost/bmandemo.zip
12:45 PM
not even certain if this was the original archive or not, but it's better than nothing
12:45 PM
latest file/dir date is 4/21/97
12:46 PM
and it is around 8.4mb as it should be
12:47 PM
also interplay's prototype windows icons are the best (edited)
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 12:47 PM
Thanks a lot!!!!
12:47 PM
12:48 PM
Also, prototype trigger bomb?
12:48 PM
It's in TRIGBOMB.ANI
12:48 PM
TRIGANIM.ANI is the final animation, so TRIGBOMB is a early one
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 12:58 PM
woah the prealpha version already looks different in the main menu
12:58 PM
this is some gold
12:59 PM
lmao the prealpha really shows off
12:59 PM
Options screen leads to "Sorry this is not implemented"
1:00 PM
oh doggonit, this one also has a expiration thingy
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:04 PM
Makes sense, they wouldn't want random people having the game outside of Interplay.
1:05 PM
Probably will have to edit that out or raise the expiration date to something insanely high.
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 1:08 PM
Gotta wonder where that can be modified
1:08 PM
The pre-alpha was shared in interplay website
1:09 PM
and the second alpha demo also had something like that, but it did indicate the day where it expired
1:09 PM
though I can't figure out how to make the 2nd demo stop saying software expired each time 10 seconds pass
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:09 PM
Hex editing.
1:09 PM
Also, yeah, this demo was meant to be run in April 1997 only seemingly.
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 1:10 PM
what program can be used to read PCX files? I wanna rip that early stuff from the AB prealpha
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:10 PM
IrfanView.
1:10 PM
Also, GIMP or Photoshop.
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 1:11 PM
I gonna see if I can succefully make a custom level by using what's documented in the Atomic Bomberman final tools
1:12 PM
This is kinda disappointing but I should have expected it
1:12 PM
1:12 PM
The final version still uses just a image in the main menu, so I doubt it could have been different in one of the earliest builds
1:15 PM
Could be cool to get the date limit removed, and I got XVI32
1:15 PM
but I don't have a idea about where to even check
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:19 PM
Oh boy, the fun part of this is that you have to use a disassembler.
1:19 PM
Especially because the date limit isn't human-readable.
1:20 PM
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/9kkf9tah.aspx
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 1:21 PM
W32Dasm could work?
1:22 PM
threw the BOMB exe in w32dasm, no idea what im looking at
1:22 PM
Looks like I found the string for software expired
1:22 PM
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:24 PM
That's step one.
1:24 PM
Step two is find which instruction moves in that string to memory.
1:24 PM
Or rather, the string pointer.
danke 12/30/2017 1:26 PM
For once, I found some unused content in a game that wasn't yet referenced on the wiki! I'll have to make an account now.
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:26 PM
You'll have much more luck in fifth gen games onward.
Nex 12/30/2017 1:27 PM
or old pc games everyone forgot (edited)
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:28 PM
Well... with Windows, maybe.
1:28 PM
Not so much for DOS if you're a beginner.
1:29 PM
Partially because of all the proprietary ways people stored things and how much-needed compression was.
1:29 PM
If you're decompressing executables, it's not so bad mostly. But decompressing files? Good luck.
Nex 12/30/2017 1:29 PM
I meant windows
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:29 PM
Fire & Ice on DOS though? That game will make you cry with how difficult it is to hack.
1:30 PM
Yeah, PC is a catch-all term.
1:30 PM
Which is why TCRF retired it.
Nex 12/30/2017 1:30 PM
should have specified
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 1:32 PM
So I need to find the "string pointer" for the software expired string ot remove the limit?
Nex 12/30/2017 1:32 PM
I guess you need to remove the limit? I mean the string will just make the text disappear or?
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 1:35 PM
The text string I found is related to a message that pops up that the "software expired" and then closes the game when you close the message
1:35 PM
1:35 PM
Early bombs inside alpha 1 bombs ani
divingkxt 12/30/2017 1:44 PM
Do you know what a pointer is?
1:44 PM
Basically, it's an indicator as to where a piece of data is located in memory.
1:44 PM
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/cprogramming/c_pointers.htm
DevEd 12/30/2017 3:33 PM
3:33 PM
i may or may not have found a test level in star wars battlefront 2
3:33 PM
(the old one)
3:34 PM
lemme see if i can load it quick
3:36 PM
i got it to load
3:36 PM
it doesn't seem to be playable unfortunately
3:37 PM
you spawn in the sky
3:37 PM
two republic star destroyers are visible in the sky (edited)
3:38 PM
it seems like there are a few command posts on the map
3:39 PM
the minimap is a generic compass image
3:39 PM
hmm, maybe it's supposed to be a space map
3:39 PM
time for more investigation
3:40 PM
also of note is that battlefront 2 has an empty "BES" folder, presumably for bespin maps (which were in battlefront 1)
3:45 PM
nope, can't get it to work as a space map either
3:46 PM
in any case, i found another potentially unused level: SPA_SKY.lvl
3:46 PM
lemme see if i can get it to load
rampy 12/30/2017 3:48 PM
Love that game
3:48 PM
good luck
3:48 PM
Does "CRC check" mean anything to any of you? (edited)
DevEd 12/30/2017 3:49 PM
ok so SPA_SKY.lvl seems to be broken
rampy 12/30/2017 3:49 PM
this is what Google brings up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_redundancy_check (edited)
Cyclic redundancy check
A cyclic redundancy check (CRC) is an error-detecting code commonly used in digital networks and storage devices to detect accidental changes to raw data. Blocks of data entering these systems get a short check value attached, based on the remain...
DevEd 12/30/2017 3:49 PM
you can't actually spawn in the level
rampy 12/30/2017 3:49 PM
I'm guessing that's what this debug option is referring to
3:50 PM
This is what it brings up
3:51 PM
don't think any of that translates to a string
divingkxt 12/30/2017 3:53 PM
@rampy It's checking parts of the ROM to make sure there is no corruption.
3:53 PM
So it does checksums of portions of the ROM.
DevEd 12/30/2017 3:53 PM
wait, I think I found an unused level that's actually playable!!!
divingkxt 12/30/2017 3:53 PM
Making sure no part of the ROM is corrupted.
DevEd 12/30/2017 3:53 PM
i think it's a leftover from Battlefront 1
divingkxt 12/30/2017 3:55 PM
So yeah, that's right.
DevEd 12/30/2017 3:56 PM
ah ha
3:56 PM
the map I found is the map "Rhen Var - Citadel" from Battlefront 1
3:56 PM
It seems to be fully playable, it's just not selectable
rampy 12/30/2017 3:57 PM
@divingkxt thanks
3:57 PM
@DevEd Wait it works completely fine?
3:57 PM
that's neat
DevEd 12/30/2017 4:02 PM
yep
4:02 PM
the level file is Rhn2.lvl
4:02 PM
if you want to play it just replace Cor1.lvl and select the Coruscant map in Instant Action
4:03 PM
wait a second, i think i may have found another leftover Battlefront 1 map
4:04 PM
the "TAT" (a.k.a. Tatooine) folder contains two level files, yet only one is available in game (specifically Mos Eisley) (edited)
4:04 PM
I do remember there being another Tatooine level in Battlefront 1
Deleted User 12/30/2017 4:06 PM
I'd assume close to CRC32 -- `07B3 6D97` is a CRC32 that I get for okami_hd.bms that was shared in here last night iirc
4:06 PM
@rampy Oops - Forgot to tag ya, haha. Sorry. (edited)
DevEd 12/30/2017 4:07 PM
ok so TAT2.LVL is the used Mos Eisley map
4:07 PM
let's try tat3.lvl
rampy 12/30/2017 4:10 PM
I haven't played the first one in so long
4:10 PM
It's cool that the map files seem to be backwards compatible
DevEd 12/30/2017 4:12 PM
i have no idea if the maps are actually backwards compatible
4:13 PM
i do know that the rhen var map from battlefront 1 is there
4:13 PM
also one of the yavin 4 maps from battlefront 1 is there (although it's actually used)
rampy 12/30/2017 4:14 PM
Porting a BF1 map would require moving over the assets too
DevEd 12/30/2017 4:14 PM
...tat3.lvl is unplayable
rampy 12/30/2017 4:14 PM
unless they actually changed the BF1 maps substantially but just didn't use them
DevEd 12/30/2017 4:14 PM
there aren't any command posts, and all i can see is a black void
4:14 PM
although interestingly it has a minimap
4:15 PM
so that's 1 out of 4 maps that are playable
rampy 12/30/2017 4:15 PM
like a minimap with a specific shape?
DevEd 12/30/2017 4:16 PM
yes
4:16 PM
i think it may be the same minimap as the jabba's palace map
4:17 PM
in fact now that i think of it tat3.lvl could just be the jabba's palace map and i loaded it incorrectly
4:18 PM
i can confirm that tat3.lvl does indeed use the minimap of jabba's palace
4:22 PM
ok apparently there was an xbox live patch that officially included a few of the maps from battlefront 1
4:23 PM
which includes the rhen var map i found
4:23 PM
why it's in battlefront 2 fully intact yet unused i have no idea (edited)
Deleted User 12/30/2017 4:33 PM
Preplanned DLC/Patch?
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 5:40 PM
...guys
5:40 PM
well, this is intersting
5:41 PM
Inside the BOMBPAL file, there isn't a actual palette file
5:41 PM
It's actually a screenshot of what it seems to be the game in it's pre-alpha state
5:41 PM
but with 10 players in it
5:45 PM
...no
5:46 PM
it looks like second alpha maybe but the hud is like the pre-alpha one
divingkxt 12/30/2017 6:02 PM
Atomic Bomberman seems to have been rushed heavily.
6:02 PM
I'm surprised something like that is in the game's data.
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 6:03 PM
It's rather funny
6:03 PM
specially when said BOMBPAL.PCX is supposed to be a "palette reference" for custom levels in the TOOLS folder
6:03 PM
lemme rip it
6:03 PM
Atomic Bomerman has trampolines?
6:05 PM
divingkxt 12/30/2017 6:06 PM
Don't see a trampoline.
6:06 PM
It's possible it's a mockup.
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 6:07 PM
That is not the trampoline pic
6:07 PM
It's the beta pic in the BOMBPAL
6:07 PM
There is a text in one of the text files that references trampolines
6:07 PM
If there is no trampolines in AB, then it could be yet another leftover
6:11 PM
Apparently there are, I guess it is in one of the maps maybe
6:11 PM
but haven't checked myself yet
6:15 PM
Gonna be doing some stuff of the AB proto page, I may see about screenshots later
ArcadeStriker 12/30/2017 7:57 PM
Can someone do a list of the Atomic Bomberman voice clips that are unused?
7:57 PM
I want to know which ones are the clips without having to check each single one
7:57 PM
and with that I mean the filenames of the original ones
divingkxt 12/30/2017 8:22 PM
Oh.
8:23 PM
Check out the sound files on TCRF, then remove Atomic from the title of the ogg to finds its game equivalent.
rampy 12/30/2017 8:37 PM
this game is looking to be a goldmine
8:38 PM
looks like the devs weren't aware they were making Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest
8:38 PM
STRATICS looks like a blast
TiffanyVideo 12/30/2017 8:42 PM
I would like to report a new find on Sonic Mania.
8:42 PM
Sorry for the rude interruption.
rampy 12/30/2017 8:42 PM
no problem, go ahead
TiffanyVideo 12/30/2017 8:46 PM
It's Not Been Discovered... Has It??
rampy 12/30/2017 8:52 PM
32kb of this
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TiffanyVideo 12/30/2017 8:53 PM
Fingers Crossed I Guess.
8:53 PM
@rampy Also, slight correction.
8:53 PM
An Embarrassing one in fact.
divingkxt 12/30/2017 8:53 PM
I think that's used as boss music.
TiffanyVideo 12/30/2017 8:54 PM
@divingkxt I was going to say that ambience was used during the Egg Reverie Cutscenes.
8:54 PM
Owch, That's Gotta Hurt My Self Esteem... And It Did.
divingkxt 12/30/2017 8:56 PM
Just use Astrogrep and search a bunch of games for uncompiled source.
8:56 PM
Works for me.
TiffanyVideo 12/30/2017 8:58 PM
But the Phantom Ruby Ambience is used during the opening Cutscene to Egg Reverie Zone.
8:58 PM
Skip to 1:20.
8:58 PM
https://youtu.be/uXcE_KE-J80
ProsafiaGaming
Sonic Mania - Secret Final Boss & True Ending
eientei 12/30/2017 9:16 PM
@divingkxt "Just use Astrogrep and search a bunch of games for uncompiled source." What things do you search for?
divingkxt 12/30/2017 9:16 PM
Usually assembly mnemonics.
9:17 PM
i.e. LDA, MOV, STA, STX, CMP, JMP (edited)
eientei 12/30/2017 9:17 PM
Also for anyone that wants a free alternative to IDA: https://github.com/radareorg/cutter
radareorg/cutter
cutter - A Qt and C++ GUI for radare2 reverse engineering framework
divingkxt 12/30/2017 9:23 PM
But also common things like 'int', 'char', 'string', etc.
9:24 PM
for C.
9:24 PM
It depends on the language, but I search for commonly used reserved keywords which helps me find this stuff.
eientei 12/30/2017 9:50 PM
`GOKUROUSAMA. YOKUKOKOMADE KIMA SHITANE! MOSHIKASURUTO HONTONI ANATAWA TENSAINANOKAMO...... KONO RABBIANNO OSHIGOTOWA KOKO DE OWARINANODAKEDO, ITSUKA RAB BIANGA ATARASHII OSHIGOTO O MI TSUKETATOKI, MATA TETSUDATTE AGETE HOSHIINA. SOREKARA KONOGAMEN O DASETA AN ATA ! WATASHINI OTEGAMI KUDAS AINA. KONO GAMENNO SYASHIN O D OHFU SHITE, SOFTPRO NO MAYUMI MATAWA MASAHIRO ATENI OKUTTENE. OTAYORI MATTEMASU !! MAYUMI`
Nex 12/30/2017 9:52 PM
japanese?
9:52 PM
or are those credits?
9:53 PM
or am I just stupid
divingkxt 12/30/2017 10:02 PM
Nex: It's some "Oh, hey you're looking at the game's data" message.
10:05 PM
"Excellent job. You did it well! Perhaps you really are a genius... Although the job is done for Rabbian, I'll be off on a new job soon for Rabbian, so I need your help." (edited)
eientei 12/30/2017 10:09 PM
@divingkxt Is that copyright for Micro Cabin?
divingkxt 12/30/2017 10:09 PM
(C) Micro Cabin 10/1983
10:09 PM
Yep.
eientei 12/30/2017 10:09 PM
Sweet, thanks
10:14 PM
and those messages came from Tensai Rabbian Daifunsen (天才ラビアン大奮戦). Too bad they're used for the final screen
10:15 PM
10:15 PM
I think...?
10:15 PM
Huh, nope
Nex 12/30/2017 10:43 PM
Thanks for the translation
10:43 PM
Pretty neat
divingkxt 12/30/2017 10:44 PM
(S)he also says to write a letter if they see the message on the screen. (edited)
Nex 12/30/2017 10:57 PM
leilei 12/31/2017 1:19 AM
i'd use psp5 to peek at all those old image file formats
1:20 AM
psp5 has better palette support than gimp as well
1:20 AM
the pic isn't pointless if it holds the palette (edited)
1:20 AM
there's also a .lbm file about the palette dating to 2/10/97 (edited)
eientei 12/31/2017 1:34 AM
Holy shit I'm loving jadx. Decompiling apk files into readable java source
1:34 AM
Better than apktool which dumps it in smali
Laenthor 12/31/2017 3:01 AM
Ah god is discord always going to show that I'm playing the wallpaper engine?
3:01 AM
shucks but I'll deal with it
Dezent 12/31/2017 6:43 AM
Go to Settings, Games and tick off "Display currently running game as status message"
6:43 AM
At least it fixes that but you have to re-enable it if you want people to see you're playing something
cuba200611 12/31/2017 7:05 AM
Yeah, how some old Japanese games had text in romanji snuck in...
FMecha 12/31/2017 9:49 AM
did TCRF people saw this yet? https://www.gtplanet.net/accidental-look-gt-sports-debug-menu/
Andrew Evans
An Accidental Look at GT Sport's Debug Menu
We’ve been able to take a quick peek under GT Sport‘s hood recently. This comes courtesy of a freak incident that’s allowed one GTPlanet user access to the game’s Debug…
9:50 AM
supposedly people are somehow getting GT Sport's debug menu by random chance... with caveat this corrupts save data
1
9:50 AM
And it's still unpatched as of 1.10 update
1
Dezent 12/31/2017 9:50 AM
That's pretty neat
divingkxt 12/31/2017 3:45 PM
@FMecha Holy hell, I'll like to know how to get in that.
3:46 PM
It's probably corrupting the data b/c it's supposed to be compressed and yet it's saving as uncompressed.
Nyank1 12/31/2017 3:50 PM
I have some leapster games but I don't know how to rip the contents
3:51 PM
And if I don't do that quick then the leapster and the games will be given to my little cousin
3:51 PM
So pls help
divingkxt 12/31/2017 3:52 PM
All the games are series of SWF files.
Nyank1 12/31/2017 3:52 PM
Ik
divingkxt 12/31/2017 3:52 PM
Oh, and 8-bit RAW PCM at 8 khz or something equally low.
Nyank1 12/31/2017 3:52 PM
But there's still a leapster section on the wiki
divingkxt 12/31/2017 3:53 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:NovaSW-Extractor-25.rar
File:NovaSW-Extractor-25.rar
3:53 PM
Use this to extract SWF files
3:53 PM
Worked for me with the BIOS.
Nyank1 12/31/2017 3:54 PM
How do I do that from the carts
divingkxt 12/31/2017 3:54 PM
You'll have to dump the carts first.
3:55 PM
Also, the carts are SD, so do a raw hex dump with HxD.
3:58 PM
See also: https://archive.org/details/LeapfrogLeapsterLearningGameSystem
Leapfrog Leapster Learning Game System ROMs : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
LeapFrog
Smoke 12/31/2017 4:30 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:FNAF-Sister_Location-228.png : Looks like it says Syka Bleat on the bottom
File:FNAF-Sister Location-228.png
old acc! inactive 12/31/2017 4:31 PM
it's more likely "syka blyat"
4:32 PM
which is...amusing
Dezent 12/31/2017 4:36 PM
Isn't it "suka"?
divingkxt 12/31/2017 4:39 PM
сука b'lat
4:40 PM
Yeah, it's suka.
old acc! inactive 12/31/2017 4:41 PM
i didnt know what cyka suka blyat meant until now
4:41 PM
very nice
Dezent 12/31/2017 4:41 PM
Common swearword if you play CS against russians
4:41 PM
...or russians in general.
divingkxt 12/31/2017 4:48 PM
It's banned in Russian media officially, but no one gives a fuck about it.
4:49 PM
http://www.russki-mat.net/e/Russian.php Also this.
4:49 PM
There's also blin, which means "pancakes" and is the really soft version.
cuba200611 12/31/2017 4:51 PM
Yeah, blyat is one of the four pillars of Russian profanity, aka mat.
Dezent 12/31/2017 5:31 PM
Eyyy happy new year from Finland everyone
divingkxt 12/31/2017 6:05 PM
Hyvää uutta vuotta.
Nex 12/31/2017 6:42 PM
https://tcrf.net/Template:FeaturedRandom/Half-Life_2_prototype just saying but from what I know not the hacker himself leaked the data
Half-Life 2 prototype
6:42 PM
but rather someone who got the build from the hacker
punk7890 12/31/2017 7:31 PM
@mikirezi I found a debug menu in Dance Summit 2001, kinda got it working a bit (edited)
ArcadeStriker 12/31/2017 8:14 PM
@Nex That is something I heard too
8:14 PM
Apparently Axel Gembe got asked by a friend for the proto, got it from him and then somehow it ended being shared all over the internet
mikirezi 12/31/2017 8:16 PM
@punk7890 oh, for real! awesome
punk7890 12/31/2017 8:18 PM
yeah, sec I'll pull it up
8:18 PM
finishing code
mikirezi 12/31/2017 8:18 PM
DS2001 is the first game ive tried to look into, i know theres unused sounds/textures too
punk7890 12/31/2017 8:23 PM
can you try this code: E0024638 01EF69E8 21EF69EC 00244418 002444E8 00000002 enter the sound mode under option to bring it up
mikirezi 12/31/2017 8:24 PM
yeah ill check it after eating
punk7890 12/31/2017 8:25 PM
8:25 PM
should bring up this
8:25 PM
the VAGNO should be sfx playing options but I can't seem to make it play sfx
8:26 PM
triangle plays bgm, square changes VAGNO, circle changes the 2/3/7 options in the second half of BGMNO and R1 stops playing music
8:26 PM
also this game has cool music
punk7890 12/31/2017 8:36 PM
also is there a model viewer or something in this game?
mikirezi 12/31/2017 8:36 PM
i think so, that must have been the text i originally saw
8:40 PM
at least maybe. im totally uneducated when it comes to not just using premade 'ripping' tools https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396298520707072005/396590400879722496/unknown.png (edited)
punk7890 12/31/2017 8:42 PM
yeah I see that hm. Is it normal to unlock something like that>?
mikirezi 12/31/2017 8:43 PM
the game has a sort of 'make your own music video' mode unlockable but theres no functions related to changing the model or lighting or anything like that
punk7890 12/31/2017 8:46 PM
ah its unlinked
Meow 12/31/2017 8:47 PM
@GerbilSoft Re: http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=37732&pid=919683&st=0&#entry919683 could be the outdated IPB? you're on 3.0 still I think 3.4 is EOL so unless it's a forked copy it might have been compromised. I know IPB's piss easy to exploit there might be a PHP shell hidden in the themes too. Hate to say it but you should tell the owner to look into XenForo 2.0 it's just come out of beta and 1.5.x is stable still and offers pretty much everything already but more secure.
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GerbilSoft 12/31/2017 8:55 PM
No
8:55 PM
WordPress garbage
8:55 PM
It's being handled, and we've been planning an xf migration
Meow 12/31/2017 8:56 PM
Ohh outdated wordpress?
8:56 PM
And hell yes
8:57 PM
If you guys need XF help feel free to ask, I've still got 4 licenses myself one of the best scripts around and 2.0 just came out too which is cool.
8:57 PM
oh, and DO NOT use Brivium addons.
8:58 PM
owner of brivium backdoored his addons and could remotely grab your database, he got banned from XenForo.com. He also hacked staff on a site named TheAdminZone because they wrote the truth about him. I ended up matching the posted IP to his skype.
GerbilSoft 12/31/2017 9:00 PM
Bad plugin
Meow 12/31/2017 9:01 PM
oh oops
9:01 PM
glad it's being fixed.
mikirezi 12/31/2017 9:16 PM
@punk7890 tried code and it loads just fine
9:16 PM
oops. not the right file type there
9:16 PM
just a screenshot of it
punk7890 12/31/2017 9:16 PM
nice
9:17 PM
dunno how to play sfx though
9:17 PM
looks like you can
9:18 PM
not sure how to load the model viewer option
mikirezi 12/31/2017 9:19 PM
actually maybe scratch that, i cant seem to scroll through the options any
punk7890 12/31/2017 9:19 PM
should be d-pad
mikirezi 12/31/2017 9:22 PM
yeah cant get that to work. might just be a problem on my end
punk7890 12/31/2017 9:23 PM
hm strange
mikirezi 12/31/2017 9:25 PM
oh yeah just a prob on my end
punk7890 12/31/2017 9:25 PM
note that you won't be able to exit the menu
mikirezi 12/31/2017 9:25 PM
got it working now
Nex 12/31/2017 9:26 PM
heres a intresting text document I found in the lego games
BADWORDS.TXT
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divingkxt 12/31/2017 9:29 PM
How so?
9:30 PM
It seems like a word filter on names to input.
Nex 12/31/2017 9:30 PM
idk if its used, not sure where it was exactly located, its in lego the hobbit and lego lords of the rings for sure (edited)
punk7890 12/31/2017 9:33 PM
9:34 PM
looks like the model viewer thing
9:35 PM
ah, some sort of animation viewer
punk7890 12/31/2017 9:56 PM
hmm I got the camera to move somehow...
punk7890 12/31/2017 10:06 PM
10:06 PM
heh lots of debug stuff in this game
mikirezi 12/31/2017 10:06 PM
ahh so thats what it was
punk7890 12/31/2017 10:07 PM
10:08 PM
gonna take a break, I think there's more stuff still but I'll look at it another time. I'll post the codes on my tcrf page / twitter in a few minutes for you to play around with
mikirezi 12/31/2017 10:08 PM
awesome. thanks for your help
punk7890 12/31/2017 10:11 PM
np
punk7890 12/31/2017 10:23 PM
@mikirezi https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/947669291070930944
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
The last of my discoveries for this year! Discovered some debug menus in Dance Summit 2001: Bust A Move for PS2. Codes available here: https://t.co/yuKt728Osi
10:23 PM
posted the codes
10:23 PM
feel free to document them as I don't really know anything about this game
mikirezi 12/31/2017 10:24 PM
sure thing. ill see if i can find some more textures and stuff before posting my own findings
Deleted User 12/31/2017 11:33 PM
@Nex common file found in most lego games
Meow 12/31/2017 11:53 PM
@GerbilSoft nearly 5am and I got bored and done this mockup incase you guys do port to XF, https://zendimg.com/images/2018/01/01/KpKn.png
11:53 PM
(edited)
11:53 PM
And yeah it's XF 2.0
GerbilSoft 12/31/2017 11:54 PM
there was a port of the current theme to XF, not sure what its status is
Meow 12/31/2017 11:54 PM
ah
11:54 PM
idk I got bored and done that
ゲームボーイ64 12/31/2017 11:54 PM
@Meow interesting, I should try it out (edited)
Meow 12/31/2017 11:54 PM
try it out?
11:54 PM
the OG XF 2.0 dev board?
ゲームボーイ64 12/31/2017 11:54 PM
I thought it was available :P (edited)
Meow 12/31/2017 11:55 PM
oh not the theme na, firebug
ゲームボーイ64 12/31/2017 11:55 PM
ok
Meow 12/31/2017 11:55 PM
https://dev.obscuregamers.com/ but the dev boards live here
Obscure Gamers
Obscure Gamers is the new home for retro gamers, modding talk, game development talk, research and more!
11:55 PM
with some tests on it
GerbilSoft 12/31/2017 11:55 PM
i forget what was holding back the migration
Meow 12/31/2017 11:55 PM
gonna redo it at some stage was my first try with XF2. and hm.
11:56 PM
Maybe convert issues?
11:56 PM
I know porting to XF is a pain with IPB.
11:56 PM
XboxModders.com was IPB 3.4 when I got it and I had a ton of issues moving to XenForo. That then became OG lol
GerbilSoft 12/31/2017 11:58 PM
i don't remember :V
Meow 12/31/2017 11:58 PM
all good
11:59 PM
while not an expert I've had a ton of issues to face but once moved it's been the best forum script for me. lacking in areas but otherwise it's good
GerbilSoft 1/1/2018 12:00 AM
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12:00 AM
divingkxt 1/1/2018 12:01 AM
And... the Earthcam stream cut out right as the ball was about to drop.
Smoke 1/1/2018 12:01 AM
We still have an hour to go :/
divingkxt 1/1/2018 12:03 AM
And of course, there's much of the US left, including the West Coast.
rampy 1/1/2018 12:36 AM
I've been seeing stuff recently on Steam and YouTube about different images/audio that plays in Cuphead but I'm not sure what info is right
12:36 AM
The wiki page mentions the music change but some people have brought up images and other differences
12:37 AM
I don't have the game myself, but it might be something worth looking at
Smoke 1/1/2018 1:00 AM
Happy New Year from Minnesota
divingkxt 1/1/2018 1:04 AM
Happy New Year!
punk7890 1/1/2018 1:07 AM
1:07 AM
Still 2 more hours here
eientei 1/1/2018 1:41 AM
Y'all are late
punk7890 1/1/2018 1:53 AM
I live in the past
Deleted User 1/1/2018 3:27 AM
in alaska
3:27 AM
its only a hour left
Nex 1/1/2018 8:15 AM
@Deleted User I see, thanks
Deleted User 1/1/2018 8:50 AM
non-lego games employ swear lists as well
8:51 AM
some obfuscated
8:51 AM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/914642398692732929
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
TWINE proto contains a swear list. I've omitted a lot of it. Final TWINE stores it with a 1-letter cipher, probably to pass Nintendo reqs.
ArcadeStriker 1/1/2018 4:53 PM
https://tcrf.net/Bomberman_%2794/%2794_To_Mega
'94 To Mega
4:53 PM
I feel like there is something spiffy here
ArcadeStriker 1/1/2018 6:11 PM
Fixed
punk7890 1/1/2018 6:27 PM
reminds me nobody has made a TWINE proto article yet
eientei 1/1/2018 6:29 PM
Probably didn't have enough STRING
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/1/2018 6:36 PM
Deleted User 1/1/2018 6:36 PM
lol
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/1/2018 6:36 PM
punk7890 1/1/2018 6:46 PM
Deleted User 1/1/2018 6:48 PM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/914628416422506498
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
Some debug related strings in the TWINE proto. May also be in final, @NWPlayer123 is working on a script to help me better analyze final.
6:48 PM
these ended up being proto-only
punk7890 1/1/2018 6:56 PM
I think I remember seeing them
6:56 PM
in both
6:56 PM
there's an unused password system that doesn't work in both versions as well
6:56 PM
+ debug menu in the proto only
6:57 PM
ah yeah that stuff you highlighted is the debug menu
6:58 PM
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz8PWXTWctXKVEw0YUFoOHlwdWM?usp=sharing
6:59 PM
debug menu only in proto
Deleted User 1/1/2018 7:17 PM
mm
punk7890 1/1/2018 7:19 PM
the debug options don't work though, the fog settings only work in menu menu and reset when in game
Laenthor 1/1/2018 7:30 PM
goddamit laptop battery acting up again. This time the OS doesn't seem to detect any problem but the laptop hardware apparently yes
7:31 PM
It worked fine earlier but then I put it in sleep mode (just shutting the cover) and the led indicator started blinking orange and green. Battery indicator always says 100% when unplugged no matter what and I tried reinstalling the driver with no success.
7:32 PM
Gonna shut it back down to see if it fixes it, but if anyone thinks they have a solution let me know
Laenthor 1/1/2018 8:45 PM
Hun, when I look at the battery indicator it says that it's still charging but when I click on it it says done charging. When I put it in sleep mode for a couple of minutes the indicator starts blinking again and the indicator always says 100% even when unplugged. I don't get what is going on, beacuse the battery works just fine
Halfbit 1/1/2018 9:03 PM
If Ryanskova appears on this server, will he get banned Immediately?
GerbilSoft 1/1/2018 9:03 PM
>implying he'll join
9:04 PM
there'll probably be shits and giggles, followed by ban
ƒluƒƒу 1/1/2018 9:04 PM
who now
GerbilSoft 1/1/2018 9:04 PM
the guy who made the bogus Wii Sports "prototype", then got mad when tcrf removed it
ƒluƒƒу 1/1/2018 9:05 PM
o ok
9:05 PM
gotcha
Halfbit 1/1/2018 9:07 PM
I see that Divingkatae added more names to Ryanskova’s page
9:08 PM
I’m surprised he hasn’t tried pestering us on Discord like he has on TCRF
divingkxt 1/1/2018 9:09 PM
This Discord is relatively new. He does use Discord, but yeah, let's not jinx it.
Halfbit 1/1/2018 9:09 PM
Ok
9:09 PM
Shouldn’t have mentioned that
Smoke 1/1/2018 9:09 PM
rip
ƒluƒƒу 1/1/2018 9:10 PM
9:10 PM
boy this sure is a thing that happened
Halfbit 1/1/2018 9:11 PM
Good
divingkxt 1/1/2018 9:11 PM
He also blanked the Super Mario 64 DS page in anger saying that I was stalking him or something,
9:11 PM
even though all of it was publicly available.
Halfbit 1/1/2018 9:11 PM
What a baby
Smoke 1/1/2018 9:11 PM
He uses Tor browser
divingkxt 1/1/2018 9:11 PM
And Digital Ocean.
ƒluƒƒу 1/1/2018 9:12 PM
wow how does one go from a rage blanking to just removing a single random period
9:12 PM
incredible
divingkxt 1/1/2018 9:12 PM
Making it easy to make hundreds of accounts and spam them en masse.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/1/2018 9:13 PM
Well, NPZman joined 6 days after I made the server :P
9:13 PM
and then we banned his ass two days later lmao
9:15 PM
say... what would happen if ryanskova met npzman
Halfbit 1/1/2018 9:16 PM
Ryanskova made a wiki documenting the “prototype”
ƒluƒƒу 1/1/2018 9:16 PM
not-quite-unstoppabe force, meet not-quite-immovable object
Halfbit 1/1/2018 9:16 PM
He also says how much he hates TCRF on there
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/1/2018 9:18 PM
GerbilSoft 1/1/2018 9:57 PM
my response is high quality though
9:57 PM
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/wheeloffortunehistory/images/6/60/Season_14_Surprise_Wedge.png/revision/latest?cb=20120530203126 :V
eientei 1/1/2018 10:06 PM
@Deleted User https://twitter.com/NWPlayer1234/status/948027089629749248
Twilight ✨ (@NWPlayer1234)
https://t.co/M9btK0hw8P
10:11 PM
Also in Youtube news
10:11 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeDrucker/status/948028530612256769
Mike Drucker (@MikeDrucker)
2017: It can’t get worse than this DAY ONE, 2018: A YouTube star filmed a dead body for entertainment
Deleted User 1/1/2018 10:13 PM
nice
10:13 PM
I wasn't expecting that to actually show up to people, but never count twitter out on showing people absolutely everything
ƒluƒƒу 1/1/2018 10:13 PM
eientei 1/1/2018 10:15 PM
For anyone not knowing what happened, Logan Paul went into Japan's "suicide forest", found a corpse and put it in a vlog (even in the thumbnail)
10:16 PM
https://twitter.com/jessiblah/status/947983859387334659
Jessica Spencer (@jessiblah)
To explain, Logan Paul made a video where he went to a forest in Japan associated with being a place where people go to die by suicide. He vlogged himself in the forest and didn't stop when he found a man hanging from a tree.
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10:16 PM
https://twitter.com/jessiblah/status/947983861929201665
Jessica Spencer (@jessiblah)
Rather than being respectful and turning off the camera, he went up to the person's body, looking at how their hands had turned blue, showing their skin. The face of the person was blurred. He called this one of the craziest things to happen to him.
10:16 PM
Deleted User 1/1/2018 10:18 PM
divingkxt 1/1/2018 10:18 PM
That's pretty NSFW there.
10:18 PM
In fact, borderline NSFL. (edited)
rampy 1/1/2018 10:22 PM
That hurt to read
divingkxt 1/1/2018 10:22 PM
I found the video too.
rampy 1/1/2018 10:22 PM
and think of all the kids that watch him
eientei 1/1/2018 10:23 PM
https://twitter.com/jesskawaiixxx/status/948031716286980096 Oh hey, he's "apologised"
JessKawaiiXxX (@jesskawaiixxx)
What a load of crap. Doesn't explain how he thought filming a dead body hanging from a tree send those magical positive ripples. This feels like the shallow bullshit by someone who didn't care and now has to face the noise. https://t.co/4DIAfOZ7Av
10:24 PM
https://twitter.com/LoganPaul/status/948026294066864128
Logan Paul (@LoganPaul)
Dear Internet,
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951
ƒluƒƒу 1/1/2018 10:25 PM
charming fellow there, huh
divingkxt 1/1/2018 10:25 PM
Let's move this to off-topic.
rampy 1/1/2018 10:25 PM
Yep
punk7890 1/1/2018 11:57 PM
what's the Recommended users category?
divingkxt 1/1/2018 11:57 PM
Basically users who have consistently done excellent jobs on articles.
11:57 PM
And have been here for some time.
punk7890 1/1/2018 11:57 PM
ah
divingkxt 1/1/2018 11:58 PM
And users who are proactive about things.
divingkxt 1/2/2018 12:55 AM
Oh yikes, not much about Syphon Filter hacking.
12:56 AM
Did find this though. "Level Select - First pause the game and go to the Options menu, then highlight select mission. "Now this is where it gets funky",press AND HOLD L1, R1, select, left, square, and X. You might need help with holding some buttons."
12:58 AM
... And TCRF is down for the night.
punk7890 1/2/2018 12:58 AM
rip
divingkxt 1/2/2018 1:10 AM
https://gamehacking.org/vb/forum/video-game-hacking-and-development/hacker-threads/9334-ps1-games-mentioning-debug-menus
ps1 games mentioning debug menus
Forums - GameHacking.org
neomew 1/2/2018 1:29 AM
Is the site still down?
divingkxt 1/2/2018 1:29 AM
Yes.
neomew 1/2/2018 1:29 AM
What's happening?
divingkxt 1/2/2018 1:30 AM
Beats me. I think there's some upgrading going on, maybe.
Laenthor 1/2/2018 1:30 AM
Yeah what's up with the site?
divingkxt 1/2/2018 1:31 AM
@Xkeeper might know.
Xkeeper 1/2/2018 1:31 AM
nobody has told me anything
1:31 AM
you mean TCRF?
neomew 1/2/2018 1:32 AM
Yes
divingkxt 1/2/2018 1:35 AM
Here's what I see.
punk7890 1/2/2018 1:36 AM
yeah same
neomew 1/2/2018 1:37 AM
Me to :(
divingkxt 1/2/2018 1:38 AM
More proof.
1:38 AM
Internal Error is the header.
Xkeeper 1/2/2018 1:39 AM
cool nobody told me about this until now.
divingkxt 1/2/2018 1:40 AM
Just happened 45 minutes ago. (edited)
Xkeeper 1/2/2018 1:48 AM
`Migrate Disk - Debian 6 Disk Image from h890-rin1.linode.com Entered: 7 minutes 45 seconds ago - Took: 6 minutes, 59 seconds 51.6% done, 6:11 to go, 133.00 MB/s`
Xkeeper 1/2/2018 2:45 AM
okay, should be back now
punk7890 1/2/2018 2:48 AM
it's saved
cuba200611 1/2/2018 2:49 AM
Good!
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 5:02 AM
Hey cool dudes
5:02 AM
if you happen to be going to magfest, some of my devkit stuff will be in the museum area
5:03 AM
so stop by between them chiptune goodness shows
Aquellex 1/2/2018 5:08 AM
@EdTheNerd @cuba200611
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 5:08 AM
owo
Meow 1/2/2018 5:08 AM
I'd love to go, but no money to leave the UK.. due to dev stuff
5:09 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/330469635386245131/397170573597212682/image.jpg built this unit for it new years eve. nearly all is dev but there's a few retails on the second shelf, and 2 on the bottom
5:11 AM
List for those interested from bottom left, PS3 A00A, A00J, retail phat, 2 slim 2500a's, proto pre-release XDK, XNA EXPO KIT, retail. Second shelf only has a PSP TESTING TOOL and the OG xbox debug kit and there's an NR reader above. not shown is the 1000A PS3 TOOL due to size.
Dezent 1/2/2018 5:13 AM
Dhaaamn
5:14 AM
That's pretty cool
Meow 1/2/2018 5:15 AM
Been trying to save much as possible. I owe around £3000 currently due to dev hardware/data. I have an SGI Octane oming this weekend with original dev artwork on.
5:15 AM
Once I clone that HDD I'll release the art
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:12 AM
Oh god the 1000A (edited)
6:12 AM
Got 2 of those for 50 bucks each kek (edited)
6:13 AM
My buddy droped one on his big toe getting it out of his trunk. It was burised for over 2 weeks. He happened to be in florida where the were so he was able to bring them up to CT for me. (edited)
6:13 AM
Man shipping costs would have sucked. Them shits is heavy (edited)
6:14 AM
I need ebay privilages revoked. Im somehow now up to 3 of those damn psp kits (edited)
6:14 AM
And 4 is-nitro's, trying to find one with all 3 options (edited)
6:15 AM
(though 3 are emulators and ones a capture. I did finaly find an emulator with USG, WiFi, and Video though)
6:19 AM
@Meow you wouldnt happen to have any firmware updates for the psp tool would ya? (edited)
6:20 AM
afik, they arent the same as retail
6:22 AM
i think my fat ps3 TEST is pretty low firm too. It wont even show my darksiders e3 disc as present (edited)
Meow 1/2/2018 6:30 AM
yes @EdTheNerd I have the full SDK if you need it?
6:31 AM
And yeah the 1000A's are beast. I have 2 more coming anytime, one from EA (RSX issues) and one from Sqaure Enix which is faulty no clue to the fault. Paid £40 for both shipped.
6:32 AM
I also have PS3 firmware if needed? both DEX/DECH firmware for TOOL's and TEST's
6:33 AM
https://mega.nz/#!hk5TjYRD!rjI0bT_nB6WZ_fvn-4aSuNFPnHtH2_-UvfJxkY1Uy2o @EdTheNerd here's the full PSP SDK, pretty sure it as the firmware included.
Foas 1/2/2018 6:33 AM
hopefully one of those systems have a cool proto on em
Meow 1/2/2018 6:34 AM
The EA one has NFS stuff on but much is corrupted but there's more I guess
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:34 AM
sweet thanks.
Meow 1/2/2018 6:34 AM
Not a problem Ed, you want the PS3 one too?
Foas 1/2/2018 6:34 AM
lets hope it can be recovered
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:34 AM
oh, yes please
6:34 AM
and yeah, me 1000a's were from nspace but they have disney asset tags
Meow 1/2/2018 6:34 AM
https://mega.nz/#!AhwATCKb!g7I7gZZ2oHic9Y8ApiTtmvNfUSx4ven4-Dzmao6sKyg full PS3 SDK
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:34 AM
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Meow 1/2/2018 6:35 AM
Has firmware too
6:35 AM
know this does 100%
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:35 AM
neither seem to show video output but i may just be turning them on wrong, lol
6:35 AM
i havnt realy poked at them alot
Meow 1/2/2018 6:35 AM
odd, and @Foas long as I can clone the HDD's and rebug them to get EID keys I can recover some yes
Foas 1/2/2018 6:36 AM
huh i thought it was harder than that
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:36 AM
the drives look like just sata drives. should i be able to just browse them?
Meow 1/2/2018 6:36 AM
You may need to reset the graphics, I can't remember how off hand. Can you see if it detects on your network? If you can goto the PS3's IP on your network and user is: Administrator with the same pass (think that's right anyway) you can reset via that too I think
6:37 AM
Sadly not Ed, the first is encrypted and the second if anything will have BDEMU images. You'd need to rebug the kit which is risky and grab the EID root key.
6:37 AM
It takes like a day to decrypt one of those images on a good PC :\
6:38 AM
plus you need least 1TB storage justfor one drive as the HDD image is 400GB which will need saving, plus 400GB for the decrypted plus space for anything you save
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:38 AM
RIP
Meow 1/2/2018 6:38 AM
yeah its a nightmare. I've only done one half way and that took me 3 hours just to clone the 60GB HDD (as I was an idiot and done it wrong.)
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:38 AM
my buddy in florida i bought them from did say that it did appear to join his network
6:39 AM
so its alive in there
Foas 1/2/2018 6:39 AM
i dont even have 300gb free lmao
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:39 AM
somewhat
Meow 1/2/2018 6:39 AM
https://zendimg.com/image/egUZ @Foas I win?
Foas 1/2/2018 6:39 AM
need to get some more drives
Meow 1/2/2018 6:39 AM
And that's good Ed, if you can login to the control panel you should be able to edit the settings there
Foas 1/2/2018 6:39 AM
you're winner!
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:39 AM
twf my 3tb NAS has like 30gb used
6:40 AM
Meow 1/2/2018 6:40 AM
My 2 5TB's are full nearly, just dev stuff, not even 2TB free on those
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:40 AM
i have so much shit on 10+ drives that are 300gb or less
6:41 AM
i gotta just spend some time merging it all onto the NAS
6:41 AM
but lazey
Meow 1/2/2018 6:41 AM
damn, I know I need to get least 2 8TB drives soon, it's gonna suck as I'm broke
6:41 AM
I have like 20+ PS3 kits coming next year. nearly everyday I get another added to the list.
Foas 1/2/2018 6:41 AM
dont you mean this year?
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EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
dear lord man
Foas 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
also jfc
Meow 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
idk Foas it could be next
Foas 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
lmao
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
I wonder if we'll ever find the PS2 SDK
Meow 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
I linked that the other week shoop
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
let me know if you find 20+ vita kits, ill take one off your hands lol
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
O rite
Meow 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
to you of all people
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
lul
Foas 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
shoop you dummie (edited)
punk7890 1/2/2018 6:42 AM
damn, send me a ps3 if you're ever getting rid of stuff lol
Foas 1/2/2018 6:43 AM
^
Meow 1/2/2018 6:43 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ddzd3jn3waj05lr/ps2sdk_july2005.iso here's the link again
ps2sdk_july2005.iso
MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:43 AM
oh yeah, anyone here have CAT-DEV info?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 6:43 AM
(edited)
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:43 AM
mine boots to a flashing ERR lamp
Meow 1/2/2018 6:43 AM
sadly not Ed, I need a CAT-R reader to do tests
6:43 AM
I'm trying to make a custom drive able to dump CAT-R disks but I need a CAT-R reader to get the firmware off
6:44 AM
I'm thinking if my RVT-R custom drive can be done then WiiU must be doable
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:44 AM
hapily, the dev DRC can be switched from wired to wireless, and it does pair with retail systems (edited)
6:44 AM
so it wasnt a totaly useless purchase lol
Meow 1/2/2018 6:44 AM
Hm
6:45 AM
I'd love to ask for the firmware.. but it's risky
6:45 AM
as it needs to have the chips removed and dumped
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:45 AM
i mean, as far as its current state, it cant work less that it does so (edited)
6:45 AM
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Meow 1/2/2018 6:45 AM
Also what software you need for WiiU?
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:45 AM
i dunno what i would even need
6:46 AM
i mean, ive got literaly nothing
6:46 AM
im not sure if the cat-dev is like the ndev where it needs a pc host or it does nothing
6:46 AM
6:46 AM
dat shiny boi
6:47 AM
i had to make the sticker on top my fb cover photo lol
6:47 AM
as far as i can tell, there arent internal photos of this thing
6:47 AM
at least that i can find
6:48 AM
im not one to care about warenty seals so maybe ill try to get some good shots once i have a proper camera
Meow 1/2/2018 6:48 AM
aww it seems nintendo removed my access
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:48 AM
ah yeah, i kept meaning to register and try to get a panda unit
6:49 AM
since the target board doesnt want to run even dev signed carts
6:49 AM
lord knows how diferent that hardware is
Meow 1/2/2018 6:50 AM
oh nope I do they just moved it around
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:51 AM
do you have the 3ds sdk? bonus points if its old as shit and still works with the big ass target board
Meow 1/2/2018 6:51 AM
Also, If you do ever do pics would it be possible to use them for ObscureGamers? I've been saving hardware pics where I can.
6:51 AM
I have 3DS access it seems yes
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:51 AM
yeah, id mostly be taking the pics to just have pretty much anywhere that wants them
6:52 AM
doesnt do me any good to be like REEEE MY PHOTOS ONLY GO HERE
Meow 1/2/2018 6:52 AM
We'll add a watermark with your name if needed
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:52 AM
im just gonna send you a dot in a pm to kinda bookmark ya if you dont mind
6:52 AM
that way i dont forget
Meow 1/2/2018 6:53 AM
https://cdn.obscuregamers.com/devimages/ few of the pics we have plus https://xbox-archive.obscuregamers.com/data/
6:53 AM
That's fine
EdTheNerd 1/2/2018 6:54 AM
ah neato, i've seen this site before
6:55 AM
yeah, ill get those eventualy
6:55 AM
gotta get a proper cam though. Would rather have decent shots vs my damn phone cam pics floating around
6:59 AM
Anyone know if this has been dumped yet?
6:59 AM
7:01 AM
Runs just a text-only controller test. I guess from the disc name, Logitech had nr-readers just to test batches of controllers along the line (edited)
Meow 1/2/2018 7:07 AM
I don't think that has, and OG's mine I was planning it late 2016 then the assembler drama/downtime happened.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 7:09 AM
OMEGALUL
Luminar 1/2/2018 7:10 AM
Meow 1/2/2018 7:10 AM
LOL
7:11 AM
he hasn't blocked me
7:11 AM
weirdly..
ƒluƒƒу 1/2/2018 7:11 AM
judging by this only just happening now
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 7:11 AM
he also blocked a friend of luminar and i
ƒluƒƒу 1/2/2018 7:11 AM
give it time, i'd say
7:12 AM
the Block Clock is running a little slow
Luminar 1/2/2018 7:15 AM
hey he blocked me too, I just checked
7:15 AM
a great loss
Azure 1/2/2018 7:20 AM
https://twitter.com/dril/status/473706394009759744
wint (@dril)
blocked. blocked. blocked. youre all blocked. none of you are free of sin
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Meow 1/2/2018 7:23 AM
I love how everybody's using his game face as a smiley
Luminar 1/2/2018 7:25 AM
best emoji
Meow 1/2/2018 7:28 AM
even OG has it on discord
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 7:28 AM
wait seriously
7:29 AM
pic pls
Meow 1/2/2018 7:29 AM
7:29 AM
we even have an NPZ room
7:29 AM
for lulz
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 7:29 AM
LUUUL
7:30 AM
what a coincidence
Meow 1/2/2018 7:31 AM
LOL
Nex 1/2/2018 7:59 AM
how do you guys dare to have such channel, I will break ur fingers
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 8:00 AM
"is that understood"
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Nex 1/2/2018 8:00 AM
also
8:00 AM
don't block anyone for any reason ever (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/2/2018 8:01 AM
Nex 1/2/2018 8:01 AM
https://twitter.com/NexIsBack/status/947969819604856832
Nex (@NexIsBack)
my face when I see a ratchet & clank beta
Revo 1/2/2018 2:52 PM
`void sub_80E6C84(void) { switch (shared1000.unk24) { case 0: sub_80E8398(2); sub_80E91D4(3); DisplayYesNoMenu(23, 8, 0); MoveMenuCursor(1); if (shared1000.unk8 == 9 || shared1000.unk8 == 4 || shared1000.unk8 == 7 || shared1000.unk8 == 8 || shared1000.unk8 == 10 || shared1000.unk8 == 11 || shared1000.unk8 == 12 || shared1000.unk8 == 5 || shared1000.unk8 == 13) shared1000.unk24 = 2; else shared1000.unk24++; break; case 1: switch (ProcessMenuInputNoWrap_()) { case 0: sub_80E91D4(4); DisplayYesNoMenu(23, 8, 0); MoveMenuCursor(1); shared1000.unk24++; break; case -1: case 1: shared1000.unk24 = 0xFF; break; } break; case 2: switch (ProcessMenuInputNoWrap_()) { case 0: gSpecialVar_Result = 0; sub_80E682C(sub_80E752C); break; case -1: case 1: shared1000.unk24 = 0xFF; break; } break; case 0xFF: HandleDestroyMenuCursors(); sub_80E81FC(); sub_80E682C(sub_80E6AC4); break; } }`
2:52 PM
or or or or or or or or or or...
2:52 PM
^ matching stupid code]
Laenthor 1/2/2018 3:08 PM
Dude, you want to see stupid code? Head to my tcrf profile at the bottom
3:08 PM
I put the partial function but you'll know why it's dumb https://tcrf.net/User:Laenthor
User:Laenthor
Revo 1/2/2018 3:16 PM
the stacked OR is needed to match
3:16 PM
otherwise it doesnt produce the correct checks
3:16 PM
we tried a switch, but it got optimized
LarryLemmy 1/2/2018 4:24 PM
From the Futurama PS2 game, would these be classed as developers notes?
readme.txt
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unlock.txt
4.72 KB
LarryLemmy 1/2/2018 4:32 PM
Also these
build.txt
12 bytes
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wm.txt
2.59 KB
GerbilSoft 1/2/2018 4:55 PM
build tool documentation it looks like
4:55 PM
definitely not supposed to be public
LarryLemmy 1/2/2018 4:58 PM
The readme looks like instructions for the developers
GerbilSoft 1/2/2018 4:59 PM
wm.txt seems like a corrupted ini file
5:00 PM
build.txt a build id, unlock.txt some sort of config
LarryLemmy 1/2/2018 5:05 PM
So should I add everything except unlock.txt?
GerbilSoft 1/2/2018 5:23 PM
Dunno
LarryLemmy 1/2/2018 5:36 PM
I guess I'll add build and readme for now
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 6:03 PM
Over the last few years I collected flyers, charts, business stuff and a few release pipelines (everything centered on Germany, sadly). all from the mid 90s to early 2000s: http://kultcds.com/Upload/Charts/ Maybe some of it could be useful for research
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eientei 1/2/2018 6:41 PM
Oh nice, E3 maps
6:45 PM
Games that Break the Rules Panelists: Yoot Saito, Vivarium Will Wright, Maxis Neil Young, Electronic Arts Rob Fulop, Perchance
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 6:46 PM
yea, I salvaged maps from giantbomb and added my own scans of maps, lists and brochures to complete the picture
eientei 1/2/2018 6:47 PM
One-on-One: Shigeru Miyamoto with Newsweek's N'Gai Croal
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 6:48 PM
what are you quoting?
eientei 1/2/2018 6:49 PM
http://kultcds.com/Upload/Charts/E3/E32001/E32001Guide.pdf
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 6:49 PM
ah, my guide scan
6:52 PM
if you understand german, you might also like my scans of MCV, a german video game business magazine from the 90s: http://kultcds.com/index.php?id=mcv&lang=en
6:52 PM
it had loads of background info that you'd never see printed in consumer magazines
LarryLemmy 1/2/2018 6:52 PM
eientei 1/2/2018 6:53 PM
SecuROM: "We're ready to protect your latest creation."
LarryLemmy 1/2/2018 6:53 PM
They predicted a meme
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Hallfiry 1/2/2018 6:53 PM
sadly I don't have those first few issues. I only got the covers from an article in the 1st anniversary issue
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 7:03 PM
I had a searchable CD catalog online with more than 4000 magazine cds indexed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVgFGmbH-Tw but I had to take it down for performance reasons
Moritz Ernst Jacob
KultCDs Catalog demo - YouTube
eientei 1/2/2018 7:08 PM
Yeah, was going to try and search for some demos but couldn't, nor on the mirror
7:09 PM
Any way we can get an offline dump of the database?
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 7:10 PM
yea, the mirror is dead aswell it seems. I do have my offline version, but inserting all the data takes ages. If I wasn't behind a ds-lite router I would host it from my pc (edited)
7:10 PM
but if you really want, we can set up a mirror on your personal server/pc
eientei 1/2/2018 7:12 PM
I could probably use the Linode one that I've got a basic wiki on, but no domain name
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 7:12 PM
on your own risk
7:12 PM
it can really slow down a system '^^
7:13 PM
but not now. it's 1am here. I'll get back to you tomorrow or so
eientei 1/2/2018 7:13 PM
Fair enough
7:13 PM
Currently 1pm here so good to know we're 12 hours apart
GerbilSoft 1/2/2018 7:17 PM
Speaking of slowing down systems
7:17 PM
Intel appears to be fucked
7:18 PM
https://slashdot.org/story/335611
'Kernel Memory Leaking' Intel Processor Design Flaw Forces Linux, Windows Redesign - Slashdot
According to The Register, "A fundamental design flaw in Intel's processor chips has forced a significant redesign of the Linux and Windows kernels to defang the chip-level security bug." From the report: Programmers are scrambling to overhaul the open-source Linux kernel's virtual memory system. M...
7:18 PM
The fix (unmapping kernel memory while in user mode) adds a significant overhead to syscalls
7:18 PM
Bonus: not an issue on AMD
eientei 1/2/2018 7:19 PM
"the flaw is in the Intel x86 hardware" but what about x64?
GerbilSoft 1/2/2018 7:20 PM
That too
7:21 PM
`AMD processors are not subject to the types of attacks that the kernel page table isolation feature protects against. The AMD microarchitecture does not allow memory references, including speculative references, that access higher privileged data when running in a lesser privileged mode when that access would result in a page fault.`
eientei 1/2/2018 7:23 PM
Also @Hallfiry: For magazine scans, you can upload scans of the images to archive.org and you get a PDF out, including OCR (edited)
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 7:25 PM
archive.org already took more than 100 mags that I scanned and gave me no credit for them. so yea... I have a personal grudge against them
eientei 1/2/2018 7:26 PM
Which ones?
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 7:27 PM
most issues of power play between 1992 and 2000
7:27 PM
also that E3 guide and a few other obscure ones
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 7:41 PM
anyways. I have a few more pages related to specific games: http://kultcds.com/Upload/Siedler2/ http://blizzardarchive.com/pub/Images/Screens/Sc1_2/clean.html http://www.blizzardarchive.com/pub/WCADV/ http://blizzardarchive.com/zabak~/Screenshots/diab1 http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/1994 http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/1995 http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/1996 http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/nuke.htm http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/concept http://arena.kultcds.com/ http://planet.kknd2.com/beta/ https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByRZMKXTjUMbfl8ydVhpbUZGMGhBTUk5d2RPaEx0TG16WE5adVMzVDE4TWZ0YVdIZkZLRkU (edited)
Revo 1/2/2018 7:42 PM
SecuROM: "We're ready to get in the way of you playing your legitimately purchased game."
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 7:44 PM
@Revo I wish I could install my oblivion goty on windows 10 >.< (I am aware of work-arounds, ofc) (edited)
ƒluƒƒу 1/2/2018 7:57 PM
this just popped up and is kinda interesting
7:57 PM
https://twitter.com/matsu_k3/status/948098823364124672
マツケん (@matsu_k3)
うぉぉ！！ スーファミ内蔵テレビSF1の動作品が売っとる！！！
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7:57 PM
someone found a tv with an integrated sfc in a shop
7:57 PM
that's really neat
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 7:58 PM
sharp made various nintendo/crt combos back in the day (edited)
ƒluƒƒу 1/2/2018 8:01 PM
i figured it wasn't anything new per se
8:01 PM
but still p interesting?
8:01 PM
idk sorry
Hallfiry 1/2/2018 8:02 PM
sure, it's cute
eientei 1/2/2018 8:08 PM
The one with integrated NES was good for screenshots, quite a few magazines apparently used them
8:09 PM
https://twitter.com/matsu_k3/status/948126518412132352
マツケん (@matsu_k3)
バーチャルボーイはあまり見かけない気する。
8:09 PM
Wow, 32X in box
8:10 PM
8:10 PM
Also Virtual Boy
ƒluƒƒу 1/2/2018 8:16 PM
8:16 PM
huh, what have we here
divingkxt 1/2/2018 8:21 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Crash_Twinsanity_%28PlayStation_2%2C_Xbox%29&type=revision&diff=533212&oldid=520926
index.php?title=CrashTwinsanity%28PlayStation_2%2C_Xbox%29&type=revision&diff=533212&oldid=520926
8:21 PM
What in the fuck.
old acc! inactive 1/2/2018 8:28 PM
ƒluƒƒу 1/2/2018 8:29 PM
i did wonder about that myself
Revo 1/2/2018 8:30 PM
someone still needs to dump the iQue ROMs
Nex 1/2/2018 8:31 PM
lmao that edit
Revenant 1/2/2018 8:42 PM
wtf are faulty baby clothes
eientei 1/2/2018 8:48 PM
@Revo There's at least 1 dumped but the flash is encrypted
DevEd 1/2/2018 8:53 PM
why do we have two thonk emotes
Smoke 1/2/2018 8:53 PM
ƒluƒƒу 1/2/2018 8:54 PM
Nex 1/2/2018 9:00 PM
maybe if you about it you will find it out
Revo 1/2/2018 9:02 PM
specifically sm64 iQue
9:02 PM
i wanna poke in it and see if its gcc 2.7.2 compiled like sdk2 stuff is
ArcadeStriker 1/2/2018 9:45 PM
9:45 PM
I wonder how to open these BIN files
9:45 PM
They seem to contain the game data
ArcadeStriker 1/2/2018 10:24 PM
I need help for extracting music from these 2 files
10:24 PM
BGM_10.BIN
310 KB
10:24 PM
BGM_00.BIN
490 KB
10:24 PM
Opening them with VGMTrans shows stuff that I have seen before I think (it's PS2 midi/sequence + samples music)
10:25 PM
I can get the midi and the samples fine, but I can't get the DLS/SF2 from the header
divingkxt 1/2/2018 10:29 PM
@ArcadeStriker PixelDbg is a good start.
10:29 PM
Keep in mind, though, that BIN is a very generic file extension.
10:29 PM
TiledGGD also does the job.
punk7890 1/2/2018 11:17 PM
@ArcadeStriker if you send me the irx files I might be able to make a PSF2 out of them.
11:18 PM
they should be in that folder named MODULES
GoodTofuFriday 1/3/2018 3:12 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/drasticactionSA/status/948374294215712768
3:12 AM
@Borman if you somehow havent heard. Miiverse archive
3:12 AM
17tb
ƒluƒƒу 1/3/2018 3:19 AM
oh wow
ShinyQuagsire 1/3/2018 4:10 AM
someone needs to hook that into Smash Bro's Miiverse stage (edited)
Maddy 1/3/2018 5:22 AM
I found something in animal crossing city folk
5:23 AM
specifically in the sequenced music.
5:23 AM
The 8 PM theme is labelled BGM_OUTDOOR_20.
5:23 AM
however, there's another track named SEQ_NULL.
5:24 AM
NULL seemed to be a duplicate of the 8 PM theme, but upon closer listening, the guitar was slightly different. This hasn't been documented on the tcrf page for some reason.
5:26 AM
5:26 AM
5:27 AM
I don't know how to edit pages well and i'm going to bed soon so could somebody put this on the page for me
Nex 1/3/2018 7:06 AM
Just look at the code from other pages and copy that
FMecha 1/3/2018 7:35 AM
Anyone saw this yet? https://kotaku.com/the-endless-hunt-for-gta-v-s-missing-single-player-dlc-1821653934
The Endless Hunt For GTA V’s Missing Single Player DLC
GTA Online keeps expanding every year, but GTA V hasn’t gotten any single-player DLC. In response, fans have cobbled together theories about what ‘must’ have happened to GTA V’s single-player updates. With the addition of the massive Doomsday Heist, fans are once again looking for closure.
Luminar 1/3/2018 7:52 AM
Interesting article
GerbilSoft 1/3/2018 12:41 PM
https://twitter.com/byuu_san/status/945414088783552512
byuu (@byuu_san)
LRT: if you really want your mind blown, read this resignation post by Matthew Kendora from March 2004. It almost precisely predicted the first ten years of bsnes' development, by charting out what Snes9X was missing at the time. https://t.co/ND74x4qYvD
Revenant 1/3/2018 1:30 PM
https://twitter.com/AlanNoon/status/948621545232064512
Alan Noon (@AlanNoon)
Tidying up the garage, going through old boxes, and...
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/3/2018 2:25 PM
that superscripted 3 tho
karmic 1/3/2018 2:25 PM
S * F^3
Meow 1/3/2018 3:03 PM
@FMecha some GTA V beta stuff as been found but nothing super exciting yet. Just some cut radio stations and a few graphics for them.
Incineroar 1/3/2018 4:01 PM
I had some audio clips ripped for one of the radio stations, I wanted to try making a sort of simulator for it in code
4:02 PM
I'll look back into that someday
Meow 1/3/2018 4:26 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/scavenger-e3-press-kit-from-1995.23821/ talks about unreleased SEGA Saturn games so enjoy, I sent this to @GameHistoryOrg also so I'm sure Frank will feature it too at some stage. This also has some internal faxes which is epic.
Scavenger E3 Press Kit from 1995!
I bought this on eBay awhile ago but it's sat with @Element18592 as I haven't had cash to sort shipping. @Element18592 kindly scanned it for the...
Meow 1/3/2018 4:36 PM
Oh it has some Ultra 64 mentions too
GerbilSoft 1/3/2018 6:44 PM
Remember when Nintendo advertised the Ultra 64 by saying you can't buy this?
6:45 PM
Pepperidge Farm remembers https://i.pinimg.com/736x/6a/87/4a/6a874a995bc2dd63c0265d74388eb14f.jpg
punk7890 1/3/2018 7:01 PM
Anyone know how to extract / decrypt PS Vita VPK files on PC? (edited)
rampy 1/3/2018 7:01 PM
ew slow CDs
7:01 PM
Nintendo told me those are bad
Deleted User 1/3/2018 7:09 PM
vpk should just be like a zip archive
7:09 PM
try extracting with winrar/7zip/winzip
Hallfiry 1/3/2018 7:13 PM
MCV 12/95 has a list of expected Ultra 64 games. maybe it features some unreleased stuff.
Deleted User 1/3/2018 7:23 PM
Ultra Mario Bros
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/3/2018 7:23 PM
final fantasy
Hallfiry 1/3/2018 7:25 PM
ultra mario bros surely is super mario 64
Deleted User 1/3/2018 7:28 PM
lol good catch ppl
LarryLemmy 1/3/2018 7:39 PM
I'm guessing Ultra was going to be the suffix instead of 64 Ultra Donkey Kong Ultra Legend of Zelda (if they'd gone down that route)
Revenant 1/3/2018 7:39 PM
u(lt)ra zelda
7:39 PM
Deleted User 1/3/2018 7:45 PM
Hallfiry 1/3/2018 7:47 PM
7:47 PM
I don't see a problem with final fantasy 64
7:51 PM
however cetra connection claims there has never been an n64 build of final fantasy 7 and it was purely a siggraph demo: http://cetraconnection.net/final-fantasy-vii/entstehungsgeschichte/
Final Fantasy VII Entstehungsgeschichte
Die Entstehungsgeschichte von Final Fantasy VII wird hier nacherzählt
MusashiAA 1/3/2018 7:52 PM
ultra combo
punk7890 1/3/2018 7:59 PM
@Deleted User neat, that worked with 7Zip. Sadly some archives I don't understand though in this game.
8:00 PM
ack game files are encrypted
eientei 1/3/2018 8:02 PM
What game are you looking at?
punk7890 1/3/2018 8:02 PM
I see that alot in PS3 games as well but I don't know of any tools that decrypt game files.
eientei 1/3/2018 8:02 PM
PS3 edats can be decrypted, you just need the rif
punk7890 1/3/2018 8:02 PM
Liberation Maiden SIN
8:02 PM
vita
8:03 PM
I was also looking at gundam extreme vs full boost for PS3 but same thing, the entire game is encrypted
8:04 PM
I mainly want the music from these games
Revo 1/3/2018 8:14 PM
ultra mario bros..
8:14 PM
is that mario 64?
Hallfiry 1/3/2018 8:18 PM
yep
FMecha 1/3/2018 8:22 PM
Ace Driver? @Hallfiry
Hallfiry 1/3/2018 8:22 PM
I have no idea
ArcadeStriker 1/3/2018 9:01 PM
alien trilogy
9:01 PM
that one was in PSX
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/3/2018 9:27 PM
hmm, I might have to add this sumo guy to the page for Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius
Chorus Line 1/3/2018 10:11 PM
Me irl
Azure 1/3/2018 10:22 PM
ominous
divingkxt 1/3/2018 10:36 PM
The heck is up with the eyes?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/3/2018 10:36 PM
those are the teeth
10:36 PM
he's in a snarl of sort
divingkxt 1/3/2018 10:38 PM
Hard to tell with such a small texture size,
Azure 1/3/2018 10:42 PM
it looks slightly lewd when you zoom in like that
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/3/2018 10:42 PM
Azure 1/3/2018 10:42 PM
just from being a closeup of a flesh-colored thing with some folds and stuff but then you can't actually tell what anything is
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/3/2018 10:42 PM
Meow 1/3/2018 11:34 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/wanted-lost-beta-releases.22500/ forgot to ask this here, does anybody have any of these?
WANTED: lost beta releases!
Me and @ehw have been trying to obtain many lost releases for the HiddenPalace and Prototopia v2 archive the past few weeks. While we've found loads...
Luminar 1/4/2018 12:27 AM
Jak_And_Daxter_BETA_USA_PS2-ZTX
punk7890 1/4/2018 1:14 AM
I was looking for Okami_JAP_BETA_PS2DVD-McDonalds at one point but yeah, that seems gone forever
1:14 AM
rip
Video 1/4/2018 3:47 AM
holy fucking shit
3:47 AM
i found a bunch of gametest and sitetest versions of roblox
3
Deleted User 1/4/2018 5:41 AM
Please document the shit out of those.
Video 1/4/2018 5:58 AM
there is a problem though
5:58 AM
they don't seem to actually behave properly
Deleted User 1/4/2018 5:58 AM
Oh joy.
Video 1/4/2018 5:59 AM
some of 'em boot up with these
6:00 AM
`03:56:47 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5F48800%200%2C%20101%2C%200%2C%2032456%2ERobloxPlayer%2Edmp: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88 03:56:49 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5F48800%2Etxt: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88 03:56:49 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5F48800%5FCrashReporter%5FWatcherThreadFunc%5F1488%2Etxt: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88 03:56:49 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5F48800%5FG3D%2Etxt: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88 03:56:49 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5FD9DBE%200%2C%20101%2C%200%2C%2032456%2ERobloxPlayer%2Edmp: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88 03:56:50 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5FD9DBE%2Etxt: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88 03:56:50 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5FD9DBEgfx%5Fd3d%2Etxt: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88 03:56:50 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5FD9DBE%5FCrashReporter%5FWatcherThreadFunc%5F18568%2Etxt: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88 03:56:50 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5FD9DBE%5FErrorUploader%5F21136%2Etxt: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88 03:56:50 - http://www.roblox.com/Error/Dmp.ashx?filename=C%3A%5CUsers%5CVideo%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CRoblox%5Clogs%5Clog%5FD9DBE%5FG3D%2Etxt: HttpEndRequest failed, err=0x2F88`
6:01 AM
yeah, that's not supposed to happen
eientei 1/4/2018 6:08 AM
You should link them and probably someone will hack them to be playable
Video 1/4/2018 6:13 AM
i plan on doing that
6:20 AM
it goes past the file size limit, shit
Video 1/4/2018 6:34 AM
ohhhh
6:35 AM
i figured out a possible reason for it fucking itself
6:37 AM
ah fuck nvm
Video 1/4/2018 6:55 AM
alright i'm done with doing that for tonight
6:55 AM
g'night
PixelButts 1/4/2018 7:27 AM
@eientei hey so like because im doing a ton of work on the league of legends page and theres a ton of images, is there a bulk upload option for all the model renders and icons i have to add?
7:27 AM
furthermore there is so much to add it might be more than sonic adventure's page
eientei 1/4/2018 7:28 AM
Ask ShimmerFairy on IRC
7:28 AM
She's got a Perl6 script that does bulk uploading
PixelButts 1/4/2018 7:28 AM
i might ask
PixelButts 1/4/2018 7:48 AM
@eientei i messed up spelling of 6 image filenames. how do i fix that?
eientei 1/4/2018 7:48 AM
Move the image to the new filename
PixelButts 1/4/2018 7:48 AM
how do i go about doing this
eientei 1/4/2018 7:49 AM
https://tcrf.net/Special:MovePage
Special:MovePage
PixelButts 1/4/2018 7:49 AM
i have no idea how to use this
7:51 AM
how do i use that page
7:51 AM
@eientei
eientei 1/4/2018 7:52 AM
Go to the page, eg; https://tcrf.net/File:Averdrian_Square.png In the top-right, next to the search box, mouse over "More" then click "Move page" (edited)
PixelButts 1/4/2018 7:52 AM
thank you
7:53 AM
the files im working with have naming inconsistencies
7:53 AM
so this is 100% on the assets being a mess
7:56 AM
hopefully there wont be too many more instances like this.
Revenant 1/4/2018 10:40 AM
https://twitter.com/VGArtAndTidbits/status/948939472787435520
VideoGameArt&Tidbits (@VGArtAndTidbits)
Nintendo once had a picture of Pierce Brosnan from GoldenEye pointing a gun at you in their legal and licensing notes.
2
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 10:41 AM
Huks 1/4/2018 10:41 AM
Delet this
1
rampy 1/4/2018 10:42 AM
"backup or archival copies"
10:42 AM
oops
10:42 AM
sorry not sorry
1
Huks 1/4/2018 10:45 AM
James Bond is coming to hunt us all down
Revenant 1/4/2018 11:17 AM
hello hacker fucker
11:17 AM
this is james bond
Halfbit 1/4/2018 11:17 AM
DONT SHOOT ME
eientei 1/4/2018 12:05 PM
@PixelButts https://tcrf.net/index.php?diff=533715&oldid=340262 Before you get a warning from admins: if you want to clear your talk page, instead of removing it, put it on a subpage of your talk page called "Archive 1" for example. That way it keeps your talk page clean without removing anything
PixelButts 1/4/2018 12:05 PM
oh okay
12:06 PM
i wasnt aware that doing that was a problem
12:06 PM
how do i roll back this change
12:06 PM
nevermind i figured it out
12:07 PM
ill just let it be
12:07 PM
@eientei is there anything else i should address before i sleep again
eientei 1/4/2018 12:07 PM
Nope
PixelButts 1/4/2018 12:07 PM
alright
12:07 PM
i have 12 more pics to add to that 1 page
Luminar 1/4/2018 12:11 PM
https://tcrf.net/Summoner this is the first page that I have created all alone, did I make any mistakes?
Summoner
eientei 1/4/2018 12:13 PM
Minor spelling mistake in the description. `Playstation 2` should be `PlayStation 2`
Luminar 1/4/2018 12:13 PM
oh sorry about that
12:13 PM
nothing else?
eientei 1/4/2018 12:14 PM
If it covers only one release of a game, the page should be called `Summoner (PlayStation 2)`
12:14 PM
(also would need `|title= Summoner` added to the bob)
Luminar 1/4/2018 12:14 PM
ok
12:14 PM
I will move the page then
eientei 1/4/2018 12:15 PM
Luminar 1/4/2018 12:17 PM
https://tcrf.net/Summoner_(PlayStation_2) ok now it should be ok
Summoner (PlayStation 2)
12:17 PM
thanks for checking
Deleted User 1/4/2018 1:05 PM
Just wanted to comment quickly that I clicked that on mobile, and it seemed to open without the closing parathense, so in case anyone on Mobile tries to click it and 404s....
Luminar 1/4/2018 1:06 PM
yeah, a bad thing about mobile discord
Halfbit 1/4/2018 1:06 PM
I hate using the mobile app
gingerbeardman 1/4/2018 1:57 PM
hi, i am having trouble adding games to a series. what am i missing?
1:57 PM
https://tcrf.net/New_3D_Golf_Simulation:_Pebble_Beach_no_Hatou
New 3D Golf Simulation: Pebble Beach no Hatou
1:58 PM
https://tcrf.net/Category:T%26E_SOFT_Golf_series
Category:T&E SOFT Golf series
Revenant 1/4/2018 1:59 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Template:T%26E_SOFT_Golf_series&action=edit
index.php?title=Template:T%26E_SOFT_Golf_series&action=edit
1:59 PM
the template is trying to include itself
2:01 PM
you should try to use one of the existing series templates as a guideline
gingerbeardman 1/4/2018 2:31 PM
what is a template?
2:31 PM
i just created a category and am trying to add 5 games to it
Revenant 1/4/2018 2:34 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Template:21st_Century_Entertainment_Pinball_series&action=edit
Index.php?title=Template:21st Century Entertainment Pinball series&action=edit
2:34 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Category:21st_Century_Entertainment_Pinball_series&action=edit
Index.php?title=Category:21st Century Entertainment Pinball series&action=edit
2:34 PM
here's an example of a template for a different series
2:34 PM
it's the box that goes at the bottom of the article and also handles putting the article into the series category
gingerbeardman 1/4/2018 2:38 PM
ah, OK I see. i thought they were autogenerated. i'll create one of those
2:38 PM
how do the games get added to the category page?
gingerbeardman 1/4/2018 2:53 PM
ok, i've done it thanks for the help
Revenant 1/4/2018 2:58 PM
no problem
Revo 1/4/2018 3:10 PM
hmm, if i wanted to update ruby/sapphire TCRF page, how would you talk about decompiled code in a wiki sense?
3:10 PM
specifically the unused features like map rotation and double battle move combinations
Revo 1/4/2018 3:22 PM
like, function located at 0xF00F00, decompiled code shown below:
3:22 PM
unused code features
3:25 PM
`static void CalcZoomScrollParams(s16 a, s16 b, s16 c, s16 d, u16 e, u16 f, u8 rotation) { s32 var1; s32 var2; s32 var3; s32 var4; gRegionMap->unk2C = e * gSineTable[rotation + 64] >> 8; gRegionMap->unk30 = e * -gSineTable[rotation] >> 8; gRegionMap->unk34 = f * gSineTable[rotation] >> 8; gRegionMap->unk38 = f * gSineTable[rotation + 64] >> 8; var1 = (a << 8) + (c << 8); var2 = d * gRegionMap->unk34 + gRegionMap->unk2C * c; gRegionMap->bg2x = var1 - var2; var3 = (b << 8) + (d << 8); var4 = gRegionMap->unk38 * d + gRegionMap->unk30 * c; gRegionMap->bg2y = var3 - var4; gRegionMap->needUpdateVideoRegs = TRUE; }`
3:25 PM
this was what made map rotation obvious once decompiled
ShinyQuagsire 1/4/2018 4:15 PM
Use offsets instead of names, probably don't get too descriptive if you can just say "the function at x has unused rotation parameters, here's a pic"
punk7890 1/4/2018 6:16 PM
hi
Nex 1/4/2018 6:33 PM
testing weapons be like
LarryLemmy 1/4/2018 6:37 PM
Uh oh gateway timeout
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:43 PM
@Revo I'd probably just say that there is unused code related to viewing the world map that allows for rotation. normally they're set to x, but if you change it to y or z, n will happen.
6:43 PM
double battle move combinations though? I really want to see this.
Revo 1/4/2018 6:43 PM
its in a used function
6:43 PM
but the parameter is always 0
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:44 PM
yeah, then I'd say that in viewing the map, Game Freak included the ability to rotate the map, but when viewing the map, the parameter responsible for such is always set to 0
Revo 1/4/2018 6:44 PM
fun fact i attempted to restore this feature: with just the rotation code included, it doesnt seem to account for live player rotation sprite handling, meaning the context i had for its use was either not what GF intended
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:44 PM
and can't be changed
Revo 1/4/2018 6:44 PM
or it was unfinished/never worked
6:44 PM
specifically L/R on map
6:44 PM
would rotate the map
6:44 PM
but it doesnt seem like its either intended to be used that way
6:44 PM
or its not finished
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:44 PM
hm. i should try that sometime
6:44 PM
i'd imagine it's just not finished
6:44 PM
i'd like to try it out though sometime
6:45 PM
i should probably grab a new copy and mess around with it though
Revo 1/4/2018 6:45 PM
anyway slot_machine.c was finished as of today
6:45 PM
completely decompiled
6:45 PM
0 nonmatchings
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:45 PM
having a source is really nice to play around with
6:45 PM
nice!
Revo 1/4/2018 6:45 PM
mostly undocumented though
6:45 PM
but it all matches
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:45 PM
eh, it's better than staring at a ton of assembly all day
Revo 1/4/2018 6:45 PM
i am trying to find where "slippage" is enforced
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:45 PM
i'd rather at least have function names, they help a bit
Revo 1/4/2018 6:45 PM
because i need to force reel time
6:45 PM
im documenting slot machine states
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:46 PM
$10 says there's some kind of hiccup in the slot machine system
Revo 1/4/2018 6:46 PM
https://github.com/PikalaxALT/pokeruby/blob/59c99b2d65af9ea1d53d457c71dc7f0915d815c5/include/slot_machine.h
PikalaxALT/pokeruby
pokeruby - Disassembly of Pokémon Ruby
6:46 PM
https://github.com/PikalaxALT/pokeruby/blob/59c99b2d65af9ea1d53d457c71dc7f0915d815c5/src/field/slot_machine.c
PikalaxALT/pokeruby
pokeruby - Disassembly of Pokémon Ruby
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:46 PM
all those unknowns
6:46 PM
aaaa
Revo 1/4/2018 6:47 PM
pretty normal for pokeruby
6:47 PM
get it matching first
6:47 PM
figure out what it is later
6:47 PM
it was just finished today
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:47 PM
yeah, I'd imagine that it's an immense headache, but I guess if it's just a first passthrough, it's not nearly optimized in any way yet
Revenant 1/4/2018 6:49 PM
welcome
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:50 PM
I love TCRF in that you can just idly browse pages for hours on end and it's always entertaining
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 6:51 PM
damn right we allow fucking swearing in this place
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:51 PM
it's probably fine as long as you don't go overboard (But i'm not a mod so)
Revo 1/4/2018 6:54 PM
ugh
6:54 PM
`00 = init 0 (when state is initialized, it's set to 0, so this state is sub-frame.) (boot?) 01 = init 1 (fading in) 02 = init 2 (for 1 frame after fade in) (starting) 03 = 04 = 05 = Insert coins 06 = 07 = 08 = 09 = 0A = 0B = Spinning 1 (slot machine is starting to spin, possibly 1 complete cycle) 0C = Spinning 2 (full spinning state) 0D = Reel is stopping 0E = 0F = Win 10 = Checking for reel time? occurs for 1 frame after winning a reel time symbol 11 = 12 = 13 = 14 = Lose 15 = cancel 1 (for 1 frame after you hit B) 16 = cancel 2 ("Quit the game?") 17 = 18 = 19 = 1A = out of coins 1B = closedown 1 (for 1 frame after you say Yes to cancel) 1C = closedown 2 (fade out)`
6:54 PM
slot machine state documentation so far
Incineroar 1/4/2018 6:55 PM
0x1C states? yuck
6:55 PM
that'd make for a messy finite state machine
Revo 1/4/2018 6:55 PM
i need to force reel time, im sure it has a bunch of states
6:58 PM
08 is info
6:58 PM
when you press select
notwa 1/4/2018 6:58 PM
that reminds me, there's a pretty big instance of a function being used but having unused cases in OoT as well. there's an early function for deciding which dialog to begin depending on NPC and game state, but they later moved the functionality to individual actor files. the only reason the old function made it in the game AFAIK is because the deku tree sprout still uses it. it has cases for handling most of the kokiri NPCs and a lot of references to bad or since-changed dialog IDs
Revo 1/4/2018 6:59 PM
speaking of OoT, i have been putting some research into N64 decompilation
6:59 PM
the same "decompile into matching code" approach
6:59 PM
reason is: theres plenty of evidence n64 also included gcc for part of its lifecycle
6:59 PM
for paper mario this is true
notwa 1/4/2018 6:59 PM
that'd be cool but quite the task since there's quite a lot of it
Revo 1/4/2018 7:00 PM
for earlier games, Nintendo EAD may have used a fork of EGCS
7:00 PM
theres some evidence for it
notwa 1/4/2018 7:00 PM
yeah it looks like they had two compilers, one of them being gcc for sure
Revo 1/4/2018 7:00 PM
the sdk compiler for GBA has build mark info saying it was compiled with egcs 1.0
7:00 PM
proof it was used in at least 1 environent
7:00 PM
same company, Intelligent Systems
7:00 PM
made both N64 SDK and GBA SDK
7:01 PM
the problem with checking EGCS is.. i uh, i cant build it
7:01 PM
old compiler software
7:01 PM
https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/egcs_1_0_release;pg=31
7:02 PM
and also, many of Nintendo EAD early n64 titles have a weird $ra allocation issue where the $ra alloc is not quite 64-bit aligned
7:02 PM
for some reason
7:02 PM
later n64 titles do not have this issue
7:02 PM
in fact, ive gotten several paper mario functions to match using the known gcc 2.7.2
7:02 PM
my real target though is super mario 64
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:03 PM
I imagine if you can target SM64 you could probably also tackle OoT and possibly even MM?
7:03 PM
pretty sure they're all under the same engine, although
7:03 PM
i'm not sure
7:03 PM
if they use the same compilers
Revo 1/4/2018 7:03 PM
yes, presumed that EAD didnt update their compiler since it all has the same weirdness
7:04 PM
same issue. i cannot build EGCS
7:04 PM
first person to figure how to build it gets a cookie
7:04 PM
because its whats blocking N64 decomp research
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:04 PM
i do have a computer running XP, but the processor isn't the best
7:04 PM
I imagine I could attempt a build environment on it
Revo 1/4/2018 7:04 PM
i might have to setup a really old VM but i am not familiar with win 98 compiler environments
7:05 PM
or similar
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:05 PM
ah, Win98. I imagine it'd work on XP though
Revo 1/4/2018 7:05 PM
what would be ideal is if i setup a program which iterated through every single EGCS revision
7:05 PM
downloaded source
7:05 PM
built compiler
7:05 PM
then compiled that function
7:05 PM
on known setting combinations
7:05 PM
and tells me if $ra is correct
7:05 PM
and gives me a graph
7:05 PM
so i can see what range of compilers
7:06 PM
first revision to check is EGCS 1.0, although that is post sm64, i want to see if $ra is there
7:06 PM
just so i know this isnt a waste of time
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:07 PM
nothing earlier is available?
Revo 1/4/2018 7:07 PM
yes
7:07 PM
https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/egcs_1_0_release;pg=31
7:07 PM
all egcs revisions are available here
7:07 PM
thanks gcc for the diligant archival sites like this
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:07 PM
haha
7:07 PM
i imagine it's probably pre-1.0
7:07 PM
it'd be the most likely
Revo 1/4/2018 7:08 PM
yes, if it is EGCS, its a "stable" pre 1.0 build they had
7:08 PM
probably because it supported features they needed for n64 development
7:08 PM
pre-SDK
7:08 PM
while the hardware was being worked on
7:08 PM
and whatnot
7:08 PM
the question is, what features are those
7:08 PM
maybe mABI setting
7:08 PM
you cna do that in later gcc post 2.8
7:08 PM
which was an egcs feature
7:09 PM
still, even if the compiler issue is solved, there's still the assembler, but i imagine you could write a matching assembler a bit more easier than trying to find the matching one
7:10 PM
the reason being n64 had pseudo ops
7:10 PM
and when reinserting matching paper mario functions, i kept getting incorrect pseudo ops
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:12 PM
stryder7x would probably want to have a word or two with you on that decompilation for sure haha
Revo 1/4/2018 7:13 PM
ive already told him in his discord
7:14 PM
that research is pending until EGCS can be solved/assembler
7:14 PM
assembler issue for paper mario
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:14 PM
I remember reverse engineering the sequence format for Paper Mario a few years ago.
Revo 1/4/2018 7:14 PM
if the assembler issue can be solved, yes, you can decompile paper mario to match
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:14 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006
Revo 1/4/2018 7:14 PM
which would be interesting
7:14 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 7:14 PM
skeletonhugger 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
me too
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
@punk7890 figuring out anything like that is interesting. This summer I'd like to get back to figuring out Shin'en's GBA tracker-esque format
Deleted User 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
bye
Sneaker 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
Same
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
cu
Dprotp 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
Revenant 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
later idiot
arthur! 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
b&
Laenthor 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
Fuck off
sam 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
Can you not
alan 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
who forgot OT DISPLABEL EVERYONE
Chaz 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
MRMIdAS2k 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
Lol
alan 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
let me @ everyone for one second
7:16 PM
at everyone
TheMainMiek 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
Oh my
Deleted User 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
who is evil nore
7:16 PM
noren
7:16 PM
Lmao what
ZoroARKangel 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
What a good notification
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
I thought everyone pinging was disabled already
Sneaker 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
Deleted User 1/4/2018 7:16 PM
evil noren just @ everyone
hus 1/4/2018 7:17 PM
fail
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:17 PM
lol
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 7:17 PM
?
TheMainMiek 1/4/2018 7:17 PM
o its disabled now?
7:17 PM
thank goodness
sirocyl 1/4/2018 7:17 PM
I guess since there's a ping ready, I'll advertise: at MAGfest at the museum, we have prototype Nintendo things! Including a CTR (3DS) Target board (edited)
RoozerXC 1/4/2018 7:17 PM
doomalphav01shoopdawoophoop
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
ooh
Xkeeper 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
I just turned it off, didn't realize it was on. whoopsies.
2
4
Revenant 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
props to big brain genius lamers who decide to annoy a channel by doing something that alerts all mods and admins simultaneously
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
@sirocyl any relation to the one @EdTheNerd posted?
sirocyl 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
It's the one!
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
oh
7:18 PM
that'll do it :V
sirocyl 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
He's here heh
Deleted User 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
7:18 PM
my wii movie-ch disc
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
it's close to, but not quite, final hardware
Deleted User 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
iirc godmode9 booted but had video issues
Flygon 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
Oh, that explains the ping.
Deleted User 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
5
1
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
@Deleted User is that dumped?
Deleted User 1/4/2018 7:18 PM
almost
7:19 PM
Ish
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:19 PM
Relevant
1
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 7:19 PM
i wonder what I could do with that PS2 SDK
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:19 PM
@Incineroar Yeah it was interesting. It was a task though, lots of trial and error but it worked out in the end. Still haven't quite figured out how soundbank pitches work yet. I've also did the Konami 64 sequence format. Now that is a really great sequence format.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 7:19 PM
we should make this an emote here
2
7:19 PM
PINGas
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:19 PM
Snoo-PINGING EVERYONE as usual, I see
Deleted User 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
who tf pinged
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
a nerd
inactive 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
emma(dumb) 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
TheMainMiek 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
someone pinged everyone saying "i like penis"
inactive 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
dam me too
skeletonhugger 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
who doesn't
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
lol
ArcadeStriker 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
ping
emma(dumb) 1/4/2018 7:20 PM
owo
7:21 PM
pong!
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:21 PM
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:21 PM
TheMainMiek 1/4/2018 7:21 PM
oh its parakarry
7:21 PM
what mail do you got
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:21 PM
@punk7890 that does sound like a pain. the engine I'm doing is really neat though. It has support for sequences and streams. I've managed to crack the stream format already, it's just raw audio, but the sequence format is apparently based on an amiga (I think? I'd have to double check my notes) tracker format that a scene group wrote, same group became the company
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:21 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006
3
ArcadeStriker 1/4/2018 7:21 PM

- is italic, is bold, * is bold italic

7:21 PM
wut
TheMainMiek 1/4/2018 7:21 PM
b o l d i t a l i c
ArcadeStriker 1/4/2018 7:21 PM
"*" is italic, "" is bold, "*" is bold italic
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:21 PM
I did manage to once modify a sequence, and I am seeing parallels to that of Famitracker so far
ArcadeStriker 1/4/2018 7:22 PM
oh lord
TheMainMiek 1/4/2018 7:22 PM
bold crossed italic
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:22 PM
@Incineroar Sounds neat. Good luck.
emma(dumb) 1/4/2018 7:22 PM
`*italics*` `**bold**`
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 7:22 PM
damn you beat me to it lmao
ArcadeStriker 1/4/2018 7:22 PM
1 * italic, 2 * bold, 3 * bold italic
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:22 PM
you're too slow
1
7:22 PM
:V
ArcadeStriker 1/4/2018 7:22 PM
then why 4 * is just this
emma(dumb) 1/4/2018 7:22 PM
because it cancels out
TheMainMiek 1/4/2018 7:23 PM
ye
7:23 PM
but using 5 is a different story (edited)
7:23 PM
nevermind
7:23 PM
all the same story
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:23 PM
markdown®
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:24 PM
@punk7890 I'll probably prod at it again this summer when I'm done school. I did a GSF dump of an undumped game OST using this engine though, which was fun. I've got some bare notes on it and I've been itching to get this back on the board. With school though, finding time for this project hasn't been working out. I also want to start a game dev project as well, so my summer is going to be pretty full up. Kinda looking forward to it though, actually.
7:24 PM
the sequel to the game that I dumped had an audio dump already though, strangely enough
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:25 PM
@Incineroar btw the sequence formats I mentioned can be converted to midi (with missing info because midi sucks and doesn't support a lot of the commands in N64 games) with N64 Midi Tool.
notwa 1/4/2018 7:25 PM
anyway said function in OoT should be located at 80035BFC (RAM) in the debug rom
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:25 PM
http://www.gametdb.com/Wii/091E00
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:25 PM
since they were based on the same game engine, I'm surprised that the game's OST wasn't already dumped. Submitted it to the gsf joshw archive though
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:25 PM
lol
7:25 PM
GameTDB has the Wii Movie-Ch Install Disc documented
7:25 PM
it apparently installs the "Wii + Internet" channel
7:25 PM
however
7:26 PM
since its game ID starts with 0, it autoboots
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:26 PM
@Incineroar Whats your username on hcs? I probably seen you before.
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:26 PM
Team Fail. used it around quite often before but had a change of name recently
notwa 1/4/2018 7:26 PM
oh yeah i remember that, you're in #zelda sometimes
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:26 PM
yeah, that'd be me :)
7:27 PM
i changed my IRC nick to this though, but Team Fail is still registered so I can use either
7:27 PM
praise be nickserv
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:27 PM
/nickserv identify hunter2
1
Xkeeper 1/4/2018 7:28 PM
it's always interesting to review the join/leave logs ridlskghasdlasg
7:28 PM
petscop 12???????? just came out
notwa 1/4/2018 7:28 PM
what
Xkeeper 1/4/2018 7:28 PM
ahem
7:28 PM
...review the logs when people join & get banned
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:29 PM
There was one more recent addtion to N64 midi tool, I think it was SSEQ. It's used in Crusin USA and Mortal Kombat N64 games i think. Not fully worked on though so only semi support.
Xkeeper 1/4/2018 7:29 PM
A joins, B joins, B gets banned for being an idiot, C joins, C leaves, A leaves
7:29 PM
notwa 1/4/2018 7:29 PM
i meant re: petscop but that's amusing too
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:31 PM
@punk7890 no similarities to the NDS format by the same name I'd imagine. I usually use VGMTrans for my audio ripping support, it's really nice to have around. I should compile a new version of it sometime soon if caitsith hasn't put out a new binary yet
Cozy 1/4/2018 7:31 PM
hello
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:31 PM
and with vgmtrans supporting many SNES formats it's really nice
7:31 PM
hi
Cozy 1/4/2018 7:32 PM
thanks for completely ignoring my friend when he joined
7:32 PM
thats was rood
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:32 PM
@Incineroar Probably not. I am not familiar with that format.
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:32 PM
it's the SDK-standard format
notwa 1/4/2018 7:33 PM
oh shit it did come out too. youtube was caching its pages for me i guess
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:33 PM
the DS and DSi use it, and the 3DS a modified version of
Cozy 1/4/2018 7:33 PM
looks its even in the rules :^)
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:33 PM
DS/i projects can be imported to 3DS so it's fairly similar in that respect
7:33 PM
the tools for each were both made by the same company even which was great
Cozy 1/4/2018 7:33 PM
now that i've said that
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:34 PM
@Incineroar though Konami 64's sequence format looks fairly similar to the PS2 Goemon game so its not entirely impossible.
Cozy 1/4/2018 7:34 PM
goodbye you fucking rude cunts i hope you have a fucking shitty year
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:34 PM
bye
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:34 PM
i could see an audio engine port being a thing. if it works, why reinvent the wheel?
7:34 PM
that's how i'm approaching this audio engine so
7:35 PM
let me find my research thread I wrote up on it
7:36 PM
oh, someone bumped it up
7:36 PM
neato
cuba200611 1/4/2018 7:36 PM
Who rang?
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 7:36 PM
some noob
7:36 PM
who has received the
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:39 PM
ah, here's my preliminary research thread
7:39 PM
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=335312&styleid=339
Research: Shin'en GAX Sound Engine
See the discussion at PokéCommunity!
7:39 PM
ah, it's the Commodore 64 AHX format
7:40 PM
not an Amiga format
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:41 PM
cool stuff
7:41 PM
nice work
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:41 PM
that chunk at the top though
7:41 PM
i'm still wondering what all of that is
7:41 PM
haven't been able to decipher it at all
7:42 PM
i'm thinking it's the sequence information but there is no rhyme or reason or pattern to it
7:42 PM
i also want to look at that footer again
7:43 PM
might be holding loop and length information
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:44 PM
That reminds me, Nintendo's later sequence format for the N64 (labeled as "SNG") essentially allowed unlimited channels. It had a max polyphony (that I could tell in game) of 27 which is pretty damn high. It allowed for different reverb room effects but I have not seen a game that makes use of that command. Only slight drawback was no simultaneous notes at any given time on a single channel.
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:44 PM
I am pinged
4
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:44 PM
Konami 64's format as had mostly unlimited channels as well but with 16 max polyphony.
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:45 PM
that'd make chords a pain
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:45 PM
Oh, magfest
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:45 PM
Yeah. It auto separates them into other channels when converting to the format though.
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:45 PM
Yes
7:45 PM
I am here with development stuff
7:45 PM
Come see it if you're here (edited)
7:46 PM
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:46 PM
I literally saw that tweet like
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:46 PM
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:46 PM
20 minutes ago
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:46 PM
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:46 PM
thought the name was familiar
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:46 PM
any ps2 stuff?
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:46 PM
Naw. I may bring more stuff if they have more room next time
rampy 1/4/2018 7:47 PM
What's the box?
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:47 PM
Psp dev tool is the only Sony thing
7:47 PM
"The box" Literally describing all of them
rampy 1/4/2018 7:47 PM
Do it again
7:47 PM
this time with more pizzaz
5
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:47 PM
7:48 PM
I'm hungry, don't do this to me
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:48 PM
too late
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:49 PM
Now I want pizza
rampy 1/4/2018 7:49 PM
I'm currently eating
4
7:49 PM
come and get it
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:49 PM
Reeeeee
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:49 PM
hm. damn, nintendo changed up the license file for GHS recently
rampy 1/4/2018 7:49 PM
Fork and knife for pizza
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:49 PM
i should check what version I have of it
TheMainMiek 1/4/2018 7:49 PM
jumps and hits everyone to get pizza
7:49 PM
i t w i l l b e m i n e
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:49 PM
pizza?
rampy 1/4/2018 7:50 PM
we got some high class in this server
EdTheNerd 1/4/2018 7:50 PM
I did sneak uncle touchy Mario into the display case though
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:50 PM
d o e s i t h a v e p i n e a p p l e o n i t ?
Da Dude 1/4/2018 7:50 PM
Oh, sup miek
punk7890 1/4/2018 7:50 PM
召し上がれ
Incineroar 1/4/2018 7:50 PM
ooh, a WideBoy 64
7:50 PM
I've always wanted one of those
7:50 PM
too bad they're super rare
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 7:51 PM
pizza pizza pizza!
2
Da Dude 1/4/2018 7:51 PM
I would like some pizza, very much so
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 7:51 PM
PIZZA PARTY IN #deleted-channel
punk7890 1/4/2018 8:14 PM
@Incineroar I did some custom music imports using the Konami 64 format (midi > konami converting) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfCalH6lpEw&list=PLnvEwHRr9bhptasxYKfe0-UPAxjwDeIQS&index=7 It doesn't utilize all that can be done with the format since its midi to konami format.
punk7890
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon Custom Music - Boss B (Star Fox 64)
8:15 PM
The trumpet in that song hits a note that is too high for the game so one note in there is off pitch
8:16 PM
Also the global reverb parameters in the Konami format can be changed per sequence via commands which is really cool.
8:19 PM
You can also call up the SFX/Speech banks at anytime with a command and play them as well.
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:19 PM
oh neat
8:19 PM
i remember when i was doing a writeup on nds music hacking
8:19 PM
i really should revisit that someday
8:20 PM
as the SDK tools have leaked for the DS and it's super easy to do now (edited)
8:20 PM
my absolute favorite audio import has to be this one though:
8:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghPFHtsbxqs
Incineroar
Pokemon Fire Red - BW Route 10 (Looped)
8:21 PM
i had to edit the MIDI a ton because BW doesn't use general MIDI instrument assignments, and the game has a max polyphony of I think 8 instruments, which can be hacked to 12
8:22 PM
i did dump it as a GSF a short while back though, it's really a nice port to listen to
8:24 PM
i don't think i'll ever do another one that good
Revo 1/4/2018 8:25 PM
when did they leak?
punk7890 1/4/2018 8:25 PM
ah nice that does sound good
8:26 PM
great in fact
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:27 PM
@Revo a while ago. Kinda hard to find them but I think I have some backups somewhere
punk7890 1/4/2018 8:27 PM
it's tricky sometimes in N64 music importing to get perfect channel volume, especially for RareWare games. No idea why but they did something different with their audio engine.
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:30 PM
I did, at one time, have a fully functional copy of the TWL SDK that was given to me in trust as well, but the CodeWarrior license expired :(
Revo 1/4/2018 8:30 PM
TWL SDK?
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:30 PM
DSi
Revo 1/4/2018 8:30 PM
i know someone whos archiving those compiler versions
8:30 PM
would love to have that one, even if expired
8:30 PM
see: Normmatt in pret discord
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:30 PM
I'll have to dig in my hard drive backups, but if I find it...
8:31 PM
Oh, Normmatt
8:31 PM
I think I can contact him on my discord server as well
8:31 PM
If not IRC
8:32 PM
I should join the pret discord though, if not for idle discussion
8:34 PM
Oh, nope, he's not there. Guess I'll have to join pret then
8:36 PM
There
eientei 1/4/2018 8:41 PM
Yes
Deleted User 1/4/2018 8:41 PM
some real winners tonight
Smoke 1/4/2018 8:41 PM
that was hot...
Revo 1/4/2018 8:41 PM
nice troll
Deleted User 1/4/2018 8:41 PM
please don't thanks
Da Dude 1/4/2018 8:41 PM
what happened?
Revo 1/4/2018 8:42 PM
someone posted.. something special
Da Dude 1/4/2018 8:42 PM
oh
Revo 1/4/2018 8:42 PM
its rule 5 `5. No NSFW content. This should be obvious.`
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:42 PM
Steamy
Da Dude 1/4/2018 8:42 PM
They are obviously doing it on purpose... Shame...
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:43 PM
I wonder if it's the same person that posted their love for the schlong earlier
8:43 PM
And let everyone know about it
eientei 1/4/2018 8:44 PM
Probably
Smoke 1/4/2018 8:44 PM
i had the name copied but i lost it...
Da Dude 1/4/2018 8:45 PM
I don't think so, from what I can tell, the porn was the only thing he has posted But then again, I just joined this server, so I have no way of telling
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 8:49 PM
@Smoke the name of who? The guy who pinged everyone?
Smoke 1/4/2018 8:50 PM
no the one who was uploading the nsfl images
notwa 1/4/2018 8:50 PM
i'm sure the admins can see it in the logs if needed; i'd imagine ehm already banned them though
Da Dude 1/4/2018 8:50 PM
Parakarry uploaded one, but he is no longer on the server, so he is either banned or he left
eientei 1/4/2018 8:50 PM
Both
8:51 PM
The people join, post shit then leave (edited)
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:51 PM
Ugh, why does markdown suck on mobile
Da Dude 1/4/2018 8:51 PM
I think it might be a group raid or something
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 8:51 PM
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:51 PM
It happened a ton when the server first opened
Da Dude 1/4/2018 8:51 PM
that's a shame
eientei 1/4/2018 8:52 PM
@Incineroar two tildes, not one
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:52 PM
Oh, rip
8:52 PM
Kinda wish that discord had a built-in quick reference for markdown
8:52 PM
I should suggest that!
Revo 1/4/2018 8:53 PM
`void LookGuysMarkdown(void);`
eientei 1/4/2018 8:53 PM
inb4 it links to github's markdown guide
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:55 PM
I also wish they'd make the /me command not just italicize the text and actually fix it on mobile
8:56 PM
Last I tried it, the command didn't parse
eientei 1/4/2018 8:56 PM
But all it does on desktop is italicize the text (edited)
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:56 PM
I'd like to see it do what IRC does
eientei 1/4/2018 8:57 PM
Sends an action
Incineroar 1/4/2018 8:58 PM
And basically make it show <nick> <action>
eientei 1/4/2018 9:00 PM
That's up to the client, but yes
Incineroar 1/4/2018 9:00 PM
I'm running Android Alpha though
9:00 PM
I wonder if /me is fixed
9:00 PM
/me sigh
9:00 PM
Lolnope
eientei 1/4/2018 9:00 PM
sigh
Incineroar 1/4/2018 9:06 PM
But yeah, with it being up to the client, I'd like to see Discord implement a proper action command
punk7890 1/4/2018 9:07 PM
test
9:07 PM
oh neat
9:07 PM
didn't know you could do that just like in IRC
Incineroar 1/4/2018 9:08 PM
/shrug
9:08 PM
Heck
9:08 PM
None of the slash commands work
eientei 1/4/2018 9:09 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
old acc! inactive 1/4/2018 9:09 PM
who the fuck pingeth
9:09 PM
5
eientei 1/4/2018 9:09 PM
Some idiot who did an [at]everyone
Incineroar 1/4/2018 9:10 PM
i think @ everyone is now disabled
9:10 PM
i don't see it in my access list
9:10 PM
(Yay i'm on my laptop again)
9:10 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
AnkyloSource 1/4/2018 9:10 PM
it was probably deleted
Incineroar 1/4/2018 9:11 PM
yeah
9:12 PM
one was about a person proclaiming their love for schlong, the other was apparently some kind of NSFL image
9:12 PM
missed the second one, probably for the better
eientei 1/4/2018 9:18 PM
Second wasn't a global ping, just a drive-by
punk7890 1/4/2018 9:19 PM
driving into discord
9:19 PM
I'd like a pizza please
notwa 1/4/2018 9:19 PM
pizza machine roke
Incineroar 1/4/2018 9:21 PM
just ordered pizza
3
9:21 PM
my mother was inspired by the flyers in the mail
9:21 PM
coincidence?
9:21 PM
who knows
Deleted User 1/4/2018 9:55 PM
Hey y'all
punk7890 1/4/2018 9:55 PM
hi
DevEd 1/4/2018 10:01 PM
w h o p i n g e d
punk7890 1/4/2018 10:03 PM
a banned dude
Nex 1/4/2018 10:09 PM
nice
10:09 PM
glad I was playing doom while it happened
10:09 PM
otherwise would have checked the ping asap
DevEd 1/4/2018 10:09 PM
i wasn't even connected to the internet whenever it happened
10:10 PM
probably for the best
Nex 1/4/2018 10:11 PM
yep
Deleted User 1/4/2018 11:18 PM
I was pinged?
1
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 11:18 PM
some noobs pinged everyone
Deleted User 1/4/2018 11:18 PM
I was pinged?
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 11:19 PM
...yes, everyone was pinged
Deleted User 1/4/2018 11:19 PM
Damn double message
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 11:19 PM
:V
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 11:19 PM
Deleted User 1/4/2018 11:20 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/4/2018 11:20 PM
Deleted User 1/4/2018 11:20 PM
11:20 PM
GerbilSoft 1/4/2018 11:24 PM
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moonie 1/5/2018 2:52 AM
when this is the first thing i see joining the server, i know i'm in the right place
2
Incineroar 1/5/2018 2:54 AM
tcrf is most certainly the right place to be
GerbilSoft 1/5/2018 3:05 AM
:v
Incineroar 1/5/2018 3:33 AM
i mean, i'm not lying
Jimmie 1/5/2018 4:16 AM
ping pong. morning everyone
LarryLemmy 1/5/2018 5:44 AM
this needs to be a real emoji
5:44 AM
It's just so perfect
5
Jimmie 1/5/2018 5:47 AM
Makes me want to watch the YTPMVs again
4
LarryLemmy 1/5/2018 6:20 AM
Never forget https://youtube.com/watch?v=4MyPWXB5o-Q
Vorhias
THIS VIDEO SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY
BoringPerson 1/5/2018 6:28 AM
Can my thing https://twitter.com/NakamuraIris/status/949236171770683392 go on the TCRF twitter? I don't know how they do things or choose what to retweet
BoringPerson (@NakamuraIris)
Gitaroo Man (PS2) has a hidden model/animation viewer and some unused animations. https://t.co/YTkLD6qa21
GerbilSoft 1/5/2018 11:55 AM
ARM Cortex A75 is apparently vulnerable to Meltdown
11:55 AM
A57 is not
11:55 AM
Some Apple ARM chips are also vulnerable
11:57 AM
MS, Google, and Mozilla are also adding timing jitter to their JS engines
GerbilSoft 1/5/2018 12:22 PM
PS4 and Xbone are both AMD, which is not known to be vulnerable to meltdown
12:22 PM
Switch's Tegra X1 is A57+A53 (though I think the A53s aren't used)
Deleted User 1/5/2018 3:15 PM
Apparently PPC is vulnerable to Spectre, so uh... I wonder if Spectre could yield anything useful related to the Wii U's boot1 key...
LuigiBlood 1/5/2018 3:43 PM
nope
3:43 PM
Would be useless
Δndrew P. 1/5/2018 5:44 PM
hi
GerbilSoft 1/5/2018 5:55 PM
That's ARM side iirc
5:55 PM
...maybe, don't entirely remember wiiu boot order
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/5/2018 5:58 PM
@Δndrew P. hello and welcome to a cool place
punk7890 1/5/2018 5:59 PM
ringo
Δndrew P. 1/5/2018 6:26 PM
xd
6:27 PM
Anyway, i often read some pages on tcrf, and recently i found out about this discord server so i was like heck yeah.
Biscuiteer 1/5/2018 6:38 PM
welcome. we have cookies
6:38 PM
the annoying digital ones
Δndrew P. 1/5/2018 6:40 PM
We use cookies to offer an improved online experience. By continuing to use this website, you agree to our use of cookies.
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Biscuiteer 1/5/2018 6:40 PM
Smoke 1/5/2018 7:00 PM
Spam page: https://tcrf.net/Moving_Headaches:_Let_These_Moving_Companies_In_Concord_North_Carolina_Help
Moving Headaches: Let These Moving Companies In Concord North Carolina Help
LarryLemmy 1/5/2018 7:01 PM
Part of me likes spam pages for the broken English
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/5/2018 7:06 PM
LUL
7:06 PM
aww man deleted already
ƒluƒƒу 1/5/2018 7:20 PM
it took me a moment to realise that was not actually a game title
karmic 1/5/2018 7:25 PM
the next crap indie simulator game: moving headaches simulator
ƒluƒƒу 1/5/2018 7:26 PM
struggling uphill against the final boss, moving companies in concord north carolina
7:27 PM
their big reveal is a plot twist that will change vidya forever
GerbilSoft 1/5/2018 8:26 PM
PSA https://www.techspot.com/news/72612-western-digital-cloud-drives-have-built-backdoor.html
Western Digital My Cloud drives have a built-in backdoor
Western Digital's network attached storage solutions have a newfound vulnerability allowing for unrestricted root access.
punk7890 1/5/2018 8:43 PM
yikes
8:43 PM
I have a WD MyBook
8:43 PM
though I don't actively use it.
8:44 PM
also found these things https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/949455580413882369
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found some placeholder save file icons in the PS3 game, El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron. The devs have a sense of humor. :D
Revo 1/5/2018 8:51 PM
a llama?
punk7890 1/5/2018 8:55 PM
and a cat that reaches the heavens
Vadell Gabriel 1/5/2018 9:58 PM
Hey all. new to TCRF, and recently made a page about some unused music in the carcade version of "Michael Jackson's Moonwalker". Still trying to figure out why they're unused, but hopefully I can figure it out soon. Anyways, I just wanted to say I love the wiki, and I especially love learning about stuff that was cut during game development, especially unused music
10:00 PM
Glad to be a part of the TCRF community
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Hiccup 1/6/2018 10:43 AM
The "This file was generated by g2dcvtr.exe converter." log file appears in multiple DS (and DSiWare, undocumented) games: https://tcrf.net/Tetris_DS_(THQ)#Source_Code, https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Spirit_Tracks#Unused_Text, https://tcrf.net/Bust-A-Move_DS#Development_Related_Text . g2dcvtr.exe can be found in DS/TWL SDKs and does contain that string. Should I remove it from the individual pages and list it in https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Common_Things ? (edited)
Tetris DS (THQ)
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
Bust-A-Move DS
The Cutting Room Floor:Common Things
Deleted User 1/6/2018 11:02 AM
creation date seems to be unique per game and can give some context to dev, so I'd say no.
Hiccup 1/6/2018 11:10 AM
And it isn't necessarily that common anyway.
Smoke 1/6/2018 12:23 PM
Site's down(?)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/6/2018 12:25 PM
it isn't working for me
Smoke 1/6/2018 12:25 PM
It's really slow for me
Dezent 1/6/2018 12:32 PM
Works for me, but is slow
Deleted User 1/6/2018 12:53 PM
was slow for me yesterday
12:53 PM
or the day before
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/6/2018 12:54 PM
𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/6/2018 1:43 PM
Hello
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/6/2018 1:44 PM
hai
𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/6/2018 1:44 PM
Is the website slow for anyone else?
Smoke 1/6/2018 1:44 PM
yes
LarryLemmy 1/6/2018 1:51 PM
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 2:46 PM
Live video from the TCRF server room
2:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/W2SShWG.gif
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/6/2018 2:46 PM
TCRF servers right now
𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/6/2018 2:47 PM
I want to see some confetti
2:47 PM
But the servers are too busy chewing bubble gum and not kicking ass
old acc! inactive 1/6/2018 2:47 PM
remember when tcrf was down for maitenence a few months back
2:48 PM
good times
2:48 PM
old acc! inactive 1/6/2018 3:01 PM
https://tcrf.net/Dieta-balanceada-para-bajar-de-peso-con-ejercicio
3:01 PM
oh boy
3:01 PM
a spam page
Smoke 1/6/2018 3:01 PM
yummy
old acc! inactive 1/6/2018 3:01 PM
i cant believe im getting to see one with my own eyes
Δndrew P. 1/6/2018 3:02 PM
Why do people love making spam pages anyway?
old acc! inactive 1/6/2018 3:02 PM
it's bots
Δndrew P. 1/6/2018 3:02 PM
Ah
Revenant 1/6/2018 3:02 PM
[cracks knuckles] time to wait 10 minutes for the page to load so i can delete it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/6/2018 3:05 PM
LarryLemmy 1/6/2018 3:06 PM
Didn't make paragraphs 0/10
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 3:16 PM
...i wonder
3:16 PM
the site normally sends a message to TempTina to report changes on IRC
3:16 PM
TempTina is offline
3:16 PM
if it doesn't set a timeout, it could be that all the php processes are hanging waiting for a response
Revenant 1/6/2018 3:21 PM
i know jul sets a timeout for temptina messages
𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/6/2018 4:05 PM
Servers still sucking a big one
Deleted User 1/6/2018 4:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPWAIYjStIQ
Da Syobon
Secret Bubsy 3D video found in Syphon Filter files
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Nex 1/6/2018 4:18 PM
madness
Xkeeper 1/6/2018 4:19 PM
if you're experiencing server issues, pls ping me
4:19 PM
anyway it doesn't look like something that's our fault right now unfortunately
4:19 PM
4:19 PM
i'll message support
Xkeeper 1/6/2018 4:27 PM
contacted, time to wait
4:27 PM
one theory is that this is the result of those hot new exploits and patches thereof, but this is a little excessive if so
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 4:31 PM
The meltdown patch wouldn't cause that much CPU load
4:32 PM
I updated my X230 a few days ago and haven't noticed any significant delays
Revo 1/6/2018 4:34 PM
i have an i7-4770k
4:34 PM
i think ill get the worst of it, lol
♘ 1/6/2018 4:41 PM
any zelda news
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 4:44 PM
All representatives are currently assisting other customers. Please stay on the line and a representative will be available to assist you shortly.
♘ 1/6/2018 4:44 PM
excuse me
4:45 PM
hi im rasing money for the majoras mask debug rom relief fund
Xkeeper 1/6/2018 4:46 PM
3
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 4:46 PM
rip
Deleted User 1/6/2018 4:48 PM
lol
divingkxt 1/6/2018 5:07 PM
I see Linode downgraded to a 6502.
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 5:13 PM
You think your Commodore 64 is really neato What kinda chip you got in there, a Dorito?
divingkxt 1/6/2018 5:14 PM
(It's a joke.)
5:15 PM
Yeah, Linode is going at a snail's pace.
Xkeeper 1/6/2018 5:15 PM
(gerbilsoft is also making a joke)
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 5:17 PM
:v
5:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos
alyankovicVEVO
"Weird Al" Yankovic - It's All About The Pentiums
5:18 PM
Now rewrite this while taking Meltdown into account :v
5:18 PM
It's all about the Opterons
divingkxt 1/6/2018 5:23 PM
I had a computer with a Prescott Pentium 4 as my main computer for most of the 2000s.
Incineroar 1/6/2018 5:31 PM
I have an XP box with an AMD Athlon 64 X2
5:31 PM
Still runs decently
Smoke 1/6/2018 5:39 PM
oh hey, the site runs fine now
divingkxt 1/6/2018 5:47 PM
Hurray, runs smoother now.
Nex 1/6/2018 5:51 PM
H U R R A Y
divingkxt 1/6/2018 5:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=unused&sp=CAI%253D
5:52 PM
Oh fucking hell.
5:52 PM
Spambots galore here folks.
Deleted User 1/6/2018 5:58 PM
https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/949730896898412544
Nick Monroe (@nickmon1112)
Former 2K Marin developer shares industry stories anonymously on 4chan.
anon doubts the poster is legit. developer responds by referencing an obscure bug in Bioshock 1, as a form of proof. confirmed real.
Retweets
604
Likes
1141
Nex 1/6/2018 6:09 PM
well, thats intresting
Meow 1/6/2018 6:11 PM
If they were on mushrooms I wonder what mario's devs were on
cuba200611 1/6/2018 6:13 PM
Me? I ask what some Japanese arcade devs were on back in the 80s and 90s...
divingkxt 1/6/2018 6:14 PM
Demon: Psychedelic mushrooms were legal-ish in Japan until recently.
6:15 PM
"Prior to 2002, psilocybin mushrooms were widely available in Japan and were often sold in mail-order shops, online vendors and in head shops throughout Japan"
6:15 PM
They were banned in advance of the 2002 FIFA World Cup. (edited)
6:15 PM
Drug scares happen in Japan all the time.
divingkxt 1/6/2018 6:24 PM
People are unpersoned in Japan for doing drugs that are illegal in the country.
6:25 PM
With a combination of loads of negative media and the taboo nature of drugs themselves.
cuba200611 1/6/2018 6:31 PM
Yeah, amphetamines are illegal in Japan with no exceptions, so yeah, if you have ADHD or narcolepsy, and take Adderall with you to Japan, you can be arrested...
𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/6/2018 7:14 PM
Yeah!
7:14 PM
The Website is not on wheelchairs now
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 8:32 PM
https://twitter.com/CuttingRoomWiki/status/949796870938767360
TheCuttingRoomFloor (@CuttingRoomWiki)
Turns out that our VPS host was shared with two abusive systems and they got booted off; should be back to normal now.
8:33 PM
Revenant 1/6/2018 8:35 PM
i know what that emot is but it's barely readable at that size
8:35 PM
rip
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 8:38 PM
yeah i need to redo it with better contrast
8:38 PM
but laziness
Deleted User 1/6/2018 8:59 PM
9:00 PM
still doesn't look great small
GerbilSoft 1/6/2018 9:00 PM
definitely more readable
Deleted User 1/6/2018 9:01 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/6/2018 9:01 PM
Deleted User 1/6/2018 9:03 PM
an
Revenant 1/6/2018 9:10 PM
cuba200611 1/6/2018 9:12 PM
Δndrew P. 1/6/2018 9:14 PM
"Have you guys been to BF Wangs? Have you tried their Bang Bang Noodles?" (edited)
Deleted User 1/6/2018 9:18 PM
@Revenant that joke was
Revenant 1/6/2018 9:19 PM
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punk7890 1/6/2018 10:05 PM
Can anyone help me find publisher info for Truck Kyousoukyoku: Ai to Kanashimi no Rodeo? Namco is credited with something but I'm not sure if its dev or publisher.
10:05 PM
here is the title screen
10:05 PM
Deleted User 1/6/2018 10:08 PM
why not both?
punk7890 1/6/2018 10:09 PM
I'd like accurate info. I don't know if they both made it and the other published it or both for dev and publisher
Deleted User 1/6/2018 10:09 PM
understandable
AnkyloSource 1/6/2018 10:14 PM
This game I'm looking at came out on DS and 3DS at the same time. the version I'm working on, on the 3ds, has all the files compressed while the DS version is totally free
Deleted User 1/6/2018 10:16 PM
perfection
10:16 PM
what game?
AnkyloSource 1/6/2018 10:18 PM
Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why'd You Steal Our Garbage?!!
Δndrew P. 1/6/2018 10:18 PM
Is it all in one archive?
10:18 PM
If so, what format?
AnkyloSource 1/6/2018 10:18 PM
no, there's a bunch but it's way less than the amount of regular files on the ds version
10:18 PM
it says ".vol" and I can't figure it out
Δndrew P. 1/6/2018 10:18 PM
AnkyloSource 1/6/2018 10:19 PM
I think I found some zlib code in the binary but that doesn't do much for me so I'm doing some research
Deleted User 1/6/2018 10:21 PM
http://aluigi.zenhax.com/bms/scooby_looney.bms
AnkyloSource 1/6/2018 10:27 PM
thank you but it didn't work
10:27 PM
awesome looking tool though, will remember to check here for things I need
10:30 PM
there was a another format there for a `.vol` file, in a game made by the same devs. I got my hopes too far up and then it errored out lol
Deleted User 1/6/2018 10:32 PM
btw
10:32 PM
I suggest you run the binary through offzip
10:33 PM
http://aluigi.altervista.org/mytoolz/offzip.zip (edited)
10:34 PM
offzip.exe -a <input.file> ".\OutputDirectory"
AnkyloSource 1/6/2018 10:37 PM
no dice
10:37 PM
thank you though!
10:37 PM
I have a bad feeling they did something more to it
10:37 PM
there's no coherent text anywhere in the few that I've looked at
Deleted User 1/6/2018 10:40 PM
Just wanted to comment that there's some pictures missing in and after the March 1999 section -- https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver#March_2
Prerelease:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver
punk7890 1/6/2018 10:44 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/949849065549848578
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Truck Kyousoukyoku: Ai to Kanashimi no Rodeo (JP exclusive game). Same dev as Bust a Move 2001 so I figured there would be a debug menu in it. Documented + codes at TCRF: https://t.co/o5Elykv0Bu
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10:44 PM
Smoke 1/7/2018 1:23 AM
punk7890 1/7/2018 1:27 AM
Definitely not a spam account.
Incineroar 1/7/2018 2:24 AM
relevant (bonus if you can read this)
2:24 AM
何ってたか、てめえ？特殊作戦群の卒業クラスでは一番だった俺は無数のアルカイダに反して極秘の使命に関わったし、公認キルは３００人以上なんだぞ。游撃戦兵で、自衛隊の最高の狙撃兵だ。てめえなんてありがたりの目標、それだけ。間違いない、この世に見たことない正確にぶっこわすぞ。ネットでそんな悪い口なんて許せると思うのか？考えなおせ。話しながら日本中のスパイネットワークを呼んで、IPをたどってるので、嵐のために準備を。生活と言う可哀想さの殲滅を持ってくる嵐だ。お前はもう死んでいる。
Dezent 1/7/2018 2:25 AM
Only thing I can spot is "３００"
ƒluƒƒу 1/7/2018 2:26 AM
`お前はもう死んでいる。`
3
2:26 AM
kudos
punk7890 1/7/2018 2:36 AM
`最高の狙撃兵だ` clearly
punk7890 1/7/2018 4:07 AM
https://tcrf.net/User:Eden9257232 spam (edited)
User:Eden9257232
Deleted User 1/7/2018 4:45 AM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/bleach-heat-the-soul-1-early-demo-utst-00185.23884/#post-178490
PSP - Bleach - Heat The Soul 1 Early Demo - UTST-00185
Greetings all, back with some more info to share on a Bleach build. You can play as the two highlighted characters, and the build is missing all the...
punk7890 1/7/2018 4:48 AM
Sounds like a neat proto.
4:50 AM
Got any PS2 stuff?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/7/2018 4:53 AM
works with PSP
punk7890 1/7/2018 5:03 AM
icic
Deleted User 1/7/2018 5:41 AM
Sorry I only collect psp
eientei 1/7/2018 7:15 AM
@AnkyloSource I did up a BMS script for Wayforward .vol files, I'll try and find it
eientei 1/7/2018 7:35 AM
@AnkyloSource
scooby_looney.bms
3.54 KB
7:36 AM
Also @Deleted User as I think I uploaded it for you a while ago but forgot
eientei 1/7/2018 7:48 AM
Located on an external hard drive under `Users/Logan/Downloads/DVDFabPortable/DVDFab9/Video/`. Very good organisational skills right there (edited)
Deleted User 1/7/2018 8:06 AM
fab
Hiccup 1/7/2018 8:47 AM
@Deleted User: `creation date seems to be unique per game and can give some context to dev, so I'd say no.`. < should stuff like JPEG metadata dates and apploader/SDK dates/versions be recorded? (edited)
eientei 1/7/2018 8:58 AM
Apploader dates isn't something that's notable
Hiccup 1/7/2018 9:05 AM
they can be used to work out the build order of games (not the build date), but I'm not sure that is notable itself (even on a notes page). its useful for revisional differences though.
9:09 AM
I guess apploader/SDK dates don't necessarily even signify the start of development, but dates in JPEGs and stuff like that would actually be within the development period.
Deleted User 1/7/2018 11:11 AM
depends on the game I guess.
11:11 AM
but in most cases I would say no
11:11 AM
re: apploader
11:12 AM
like it might be notable if a certain file was added first or last or something, but that all depends on the context of the game and its data.
Hiccup 1/7/2018 11:25 AM
Luigi's Mansion has apploader dates on its page, and it differs between versions (edited)
CheetahPixie 1/7/2018 11:46 AM
ah, a discord for my favorite wiki
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/7/2018 11:52 AM
sup
AnkyloSource 1/7/2018 12:22 PM
@eientei thank you!!!! The scooby_looney.bms script on the quickbms site doesn't actually work, while this did lol
12:23 PM
you are amazing and I'm so excited to open this up!
CheetahPixie 1/7/2018 12:29 PM
what are you dabbling in? @AnkyloSource
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/7/2018 12:30 PM
my meme-infected brain misread that as "what are you dabbing in?"
Nex 1/7/2018 12:30 PM
^
AnkyloSource 1/7/2018 12:30 PM
I'm dabbing apart some Adventure time game for the 3ds
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12:31 PM
"Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why'd You Steal Our Garbage?!!"
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/7/2018 12:31 PM
Nex 1/7/2018 12:49 PM
https://imgur.com/a/LeRM7 I have been recently datamining a rather new RPG called Elex and I found a lot of unused stuff, and this is some of the stuff I found. 2 Hidden Testlevels, test events, unused items etc. (edited)
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eientei 1/7/2018 2:29 PM
@AnkyloSource Forgot to mention that you run the .vol file through teh bms script to decompress it, then run the resulting 00000000.dat file through the same script to extract files
AnkyloSource 1/7/2018 2:36 PM
......
2:36 PM
that explains a lot
2:37 PM
thank you lol, I figured wayforward changed it between games a bit and I've been just searching for things
Deleted User 1/7/2018 2:50 PM
@Deleted User Please do keep it up wuth the PSP stuff. Really fascinating for me to collect, since I JUST got a hacked PSP
Deleted User 1/7/2018 4:11 PM
Will do
rampy 1/7/2018 5:28 PM
@Nex Sounds like a successful mine. Nice!
Nex 1/7/2018 5:32 PM
Definetly and more to come (edited)
Deleted User 1/7/2018 8:18 PM
Hey guys, so a few months back I went datamining in Hey! Pikmin with a bunch of others in another Discord, and we've found so much stuff, I'm not going to share it all yet, but digging through the models has shown off a variety of tons of unused enemies- And no, this is not a measly 3 or for. Models account for maybe 20+.
8:21 PM
I have yet to add this to TCRF, as I'm not entirely sure how to go about in doing this.
divingkxt 1/7/2018 8:24 PM
How many of those models are from earlier versions of the game?
8:24 PM
Or are all of these unique?
Deleted User 1/7/2018 8:25 PM
These are almost all unique.
8:26 PM
Though there's some weird addon to the name of some of the models that perplexes me into thinking it might be an earlier version but there's no telling, really.
8:33 PM
what's the addon
8:34 PM
"00_japanesetranslated_chara_0"
8:35 PM
The japanesetranslated is just what the regular model name would be called, but the zeroes and chara's perplex me. There's random backgrounds, odd textures, and the like in these models.
8:38 PM
hm
8:40 PM
https://youtu.be/uenH_06LalU Here's a video capturing just one of the many things. This enemy is just a variation of the main enemy of the game, but it wasn't included. This video wasn't very good though so
Blewproyoshi TFM
unused thorned mockiwi in hey! pikmin
Luca 1/7/2018 8:54 PM
Hello, how do I view the files of an n64 rom? I want to view the files, but cant find anything on google
8:55 PM
I know it sounds very noob-ish(and it is), but I figured this would be the best place to ask (edited)
Deleted User 1/7/2018 8:57 PM
depends on the game
8:57 PM
also I don't think N64 games have a file system
Luca 1/7/2018 8:57 PM
oh (edited)
𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/7/2018 8:58 PM
So are the n64 games just a garbled mess of stuff that just somehow ends up in a game
8:58 PM
You learn something new every day
Luca 1/7/2018 8:59 PM
I want to view the files of Majora's Mask (yes I know it is on TCRF, but I want to have the knowledge of how to do it)
𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/7/2018 9:00 PM
I know that there is a program out there that can extract the models and shit from the game
9:00 PM
But it must be rendered in the game world
9:00 PM
It's literally capturing the data and saving it
Luca 1/7/2018 9:01 PM
So how do I view the unused textures/models that arent present in the game?
Deleted User 1/7/2018 9:01 PM
https://github.com/xdanieldzd/SceneNavi
xdanieldzd/SceneNavi
SceneNavi - Level editor for The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64) - UNMAINTAINED
Luca 1/7/2018 9:02 PM
cool
Deleted User 1/7/2018 9:12 PM
Here, I'm going to post a compiliation. Note the list isn't done and it was not made by me, I just added to it.
9:12 PM
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y1OqaCHDH6yGUMca0_VpgV0Awsy5gC9xTLEtkqQhJ9k/edit
Hey! Pikmin unused things
Hey! Pikmin Unused Enemies Picture Filename Notes, videos, etc. herculeseboshi.bch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGEj5tKrths&feature=youtu.be Internal Translation: Hercules Boshi To note: Biggest enemy mod...
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divingkxt 1/7/2018 9:44 PM
Awesome!
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/7/2018 10:04 PM
if you want MM with a file system, its MM3D
Revo 1/7/2018 10:04 PM
hey guys
10:04 PM
today was a busy day.
10:04 PM
we matched a ton of notorious nonmatchings
10:04 PM
some game us new compiler knowledge for GBA
10:04 PM
but do you wanna know the stupidest one by far
divingkxt 1/7/2018 10:05 PM
Let me guess, it's about if statements?
Revo 1/7/2018 10:05 PM
`void BuyMenuDrawGraphics(void) { void *addr; register u16 zero2 asm("r5"); sub_80F9438(); remove_some_task(); REG_BG1HOFS = (zero2 = 0); REG_BG1VOFS = zero2; REG_BG2HOFS = zero2; REG_BG2VOFS = zero2; REG_BG3HOFS = zero2; REG_BG3VOFS = zero2; gPaletteFade.bufferTransferDisabled = 1; addr = (void*)OAM; { register const u32 zero asm("r6") = 0; DmaFill32(3, zero, addr, OAM_SIZE); LZDecompressVram(gBuyMenuFrame_Gfx, (void*)(VRAM + 0x7C00)); sub_800D238(gBuyMenuFrame_Tilemap, (void *)0x02018000); LoadCompressedPalette(gMenuMoneyPal, 0xC0, sizeof(gMenuMoneyPal)); FreeAllSpritePalettes(); ResetPaletteFade(); ResetSpriteData(); ResetTasks(); SetUpWindowConfig(&gWindowConfig_81E6DFC); InitMenuWindow(&gWindowConfig_81E6DFC); BuyMenuDrawMapGraphics(); gUnknown_03000708.unk9 = zero; gUnknown_03000708.unkB = zero2; MenuZeroFillWindowRect(0, 0, 0x20, 0x20); sub_80B7C14(gSaveBlock1.money, 0, 0); sub_80B3764(0, 7); sub_80B37EC(); sub_80B3270(); CreateTask(sub_80B40E8, 0x8); sub_80B3240(); asm("":::"r4"); // what?? BeginNormalPaletteFade(0xFFFFFFFF, 0, 0x10, 0, zero); gPaletteFade.bufferTransferDisabled = 0; SetVBlankCallback(sub_80B30AC); SetMainCallback2(sub_80B3094); } }` here's the function before i fixed it
10:05 PM
previously, it used hacks to match
10:05 PM
so it was fakematching
10:06 PM
but i found out why
10:06 PM
`void BuyMenuDrawGraphics(void) { sub_80F9438(); remove_some_task(); REG_BG1HOFS = 0; REG_BG1VOFS = 0; REG_BG2HOFS = 0; REG_BG2VOFS = 0; REG_BG3HOFS = 0; REG_BG3VOFS = 0; gPaletteFade.bufferTransferDisabled = 1; do {} while(0); // there really IS an empty do while loop! what a goddamn good meme. DmaFillDefvars(3, 0, (void *)OAM, OAM_SIZE, 32); LZDecompressVram(gBuyMenuFrame_Gfx, (void*)(VRAM + 0x7C00)); LZDecompressWram(gBuyMenuFrame_Tilemap, ewram18000_2); LoadCompressedPalette(gMenuMoneyPal, 0xC0, sizeof(gMenuMoneyPal)); FreeAllSpritePalettes(); ResetPaletteFade(); ResetSpriteData(); ResetTasks(); SetUpWindowConfig(&gWindowConfig_81E6DFC); InitMenuWindow(&gWindowConfig_81E6DFC); BuyMenuDrawMapGraphics(); gMartInfo.cursor = 0; gMartInfo.choicesAbove = 0; MenuZeroFillWindowRect(0, 0, 0x20, 0x20); OpenMoneyWindow(gSaveBlock1.money, 0, 0); sub_80B3764(0, 7); sub_80B37EC(); sub_80B3270(); CreateTask(sub_80B40E8, 0x8); sub_80B3240(); BeginNormalPaletteFade(0xFFFFFFFF, 0, 0x10, 0, 0); gPaletteFade.bufferTransferDisabled = 0; SetVBlankCallback(sub_80B30AC); SetMainCallback2(sub_80B3094); }`
10:06 PM
empty do while(0) loop.
10:06 PM
seriously.
10:06 PM
needed to match.
10:06 PM
this is by far the stupidest code match i have ever seen
10:07 PM
and i thought DoItemSwap was dumb
10:07 PM
it affects the registers because it changes how 0s are handled for the cursor/choicesAbove assignment
10:07 PM
and uses 2 different 0s
10:07 PM
without that empty do while, it wont do the correct behavior
10:07 PM
i dont know why
10:07 PM
everything lines up perfectly when its there
10:08 PM
10:08 PM
i have seen some shit, but never this
eientei 1/7/2018 10:09 PM
https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Related_Links#Cut_Content_and_Prototypes "Unseen64" ew (edited)
divingkxt 1/7/2018 10:23 PM
Got anything better?
Revo 1/7/2018 10:25 PM
better than that? hell no, other than that += 0 i showed before
divingkxt 1/7/2018 10:25 PM
@Revo Not you, but @eientei
Revo 1/7/2018 10:25 PM
oh
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/7/2018 10:30 PM
10:30 PM
divingkxt 1/7/2018 10:31 PM
https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Related_Links#Editing.2FViewing_Tools Fixed
The Cutting Room Floor:Related Links
10:33 PM
As much as I don't like U64, they're still better than X-Cult, who flat out stole from them.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/7/2018 10:33 PM
but if x-cult is so shit, why link them?
divingkxt 1/7/2018 10:34 PM
Mind, this section is still pretty early.
10:35 PM
Plenty more sites to add here, and I'm open for sites to delete too.
divingkxt 1/7/2018 10:52 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT Mainly historical reasons, as it's actually a spin-off of Sonic Cult. (edited)
10:52 PM
And run by the same people... though it's not active anymore.
Revo 1/7/2018 10:53 PM
oh man
divingkxt 1/7/2018 10:53 PM
More for curiosity's sake than not.
Revo 1/7/2018 10:53 PM
sonic cult
10:53 PM
i remember that
10:53 PM
way back when
10:53 PM
ancient prehistoric webrings jurassic internet era
10:53 PM
those were the days
divingkxt 1/7/2018 10:53 PM
http://www.sonic-cult.org/index2.php Still up too.
Revo 1/7/2018 10:54 PM
dude i remember when the shadow the hedgehog "leaks" or trailers came out on Sonic CuLT and people were genuinely thinking it was a good hoax
10:54 PM
the early days
divingkxt 1/7/2018 10:54 PM
The same goes for that faked Sonic X-Treme beta.
10:55 PM
Loads of people torrenting it, only for them to get punked by drx, who revealed the whole thing was just a section of Sonic 3D Blast repeated over and over.
10:57 PM
People essentially were downloading some garbage ISO file.
10:59 PM
@Revo Yeah, it was kind of hard to believe a game like that was coming to be back then.
11:00 PM
It was also the very early days of YT when the front page was just a search engine.
11:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqnbPPGwPDY
Dinomite
Shadow the Hedgehog E3 2005 Trailer
Revo 1/7/2018 11:01 PM
i was always of the opinion if ShTH really wanted to be serious, it needed to go all the way, third person over the shoulder "psychological horror" style where you're not really sure if the aliens even exist or its all shadow's mind instead SEGA halfassed it because of a god awful demographic that didnt exist that they were reaching for
11:01 PM
such bollocks
divingkxt 1/7/2018 11:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27kLjjyZvo
Rlan3
Shadow The Hedgehog Announcement Trailer... yuck.
11:02 PM
They wanted a T rating, but wimped out to E10 when that rating became available.
11:03 PM
Couldn't go M because every parent would be up Sega's reps' face and yelling at them about how they scared the children.
Revo 1/7/2018 11:03 PM
they should have anyway despite the backlash
Deleted User 1/7/2018 11:03 PM
https://metroidconstruction.com/ needs removed from https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Related_Links#Editing.2FViewing_Tools - Redirects to an ad site thing
The Cutting Room Floor:Related Links
Revo 1/7/2018 11:03 PM
with a genre shift (for another character) you either all or nothing
11:04 PM
i think ShTH had an identity crisis
11:04 PM
oh wait, isnt that the plot of the game
11:04 PM
ba-dum-tssh
Azure 1/7/2018 11:04 PM
personally I think Shadow is a pretty awesome game, it's just all the "do 100% of this thing" missions seriously needed to be 90% or something
11:05 PM
I played through all the 3D Sonics recently and I actually had way more fun with Shadow than I expected
Revenant 1/7/2018 11:09 PM
@Deleted User weird, for some reason using http works but https has the redirect
11:09 PM
i wonder if they're actually aware of that
11:10 PM
(i fixed the link, anyway) (edited)
Deleted User 1/7/2018 11:11 PM
Might need to alert someone to that @Revenant - Just in case. Thanks!
divingkxt 1/7/2018 11:27 PM
@Azure Glad to hear someone liked it. Personally, I found it underwhelming.
Azure 1/7/2018 11:30 PM
it's also the kind of game that gets a lot more fun as you get better at it (like most Sonic games)
11:30 PM
once you start memorizing the levels a little bit so you can shoot a bunch of enemies without needing to stop, and stuff like that
11:31 PM
I am absolutely fine with other people not liking it though, it's pretty heavily flawed
11:31 PM
I was just really surprised at how much fun I had with it regardless
AnkyloSource 1/8/2018 12:28 AM
I love some of the descriptions on the Hey! Pikmin doc where guesses were made about the purposes of models/animations
12:29 AM
makes me think of paleontologists and how they can only guess about dinosaur habits from what we have available
divingkxt 1/8/2018 12:30 AM
Though they do need some translators there.
12:31 AM
Because many of the file names have Japanese in them, albeit transliterated.
AnkyloSource 1/8/2018 12:41 AM
I feel like the hardest part of finding cut content for me is figuring out if things are actually in the game or not
divingkxt 1/8/2018 12:42 AM
Indeed, because of how hidden they can be, even if they turn out to be bleeding obvious in hindsight.
eientei 1/8/2018 12:43 AM
Easiest way is JP text in non-JP game
divingkxt 1/8/2018 12:45 AM
Not always accurate though, because the translators can miss portions of text b/c of deadlines and bad testing.
eientei 1/8/2018 1:19 AM
Even then it's untranslated and is liable to cause bugs due to encoding
Azure 1/8/2018 3:49 AM
or it could be translated because the localizers didn't get the memo that it's unused
3:50 AM
Battle Network 6 had a bunch of cut content from the English version, they removed the entire Boktai sidequest and all the chips/bosses crash the game, but they all had translated names
3:51 AM
sometimes really badly-translated though, like The Count being named HackJack (from his Japanese name "Hakushaku", I think?)
3:53 AM
I remember in Mario All-Stars, they made SNES versions of all the unused tiles from the NES games because they didn't know those were unused
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 3:55 AM
it's worth considering that sometimes it's not about not getting the memo that something's unused, so much as it probably being safer to do it juuuuuuuuust in case
3:55 AM
and/or feeling as if you might as well do it while you're there
3:56 AM
there's a fair few unused passages in fe4 that i translated anyway, though needless to say the circumstances of my work are very far removed from a proper localisation
3:56 AM
and in my case i was pretty actively interested in and curious about said passages
3:56 AM
so
3:56 AM
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Azure 1/8/2018 4:14 AM
yeah, if it only takes a few minutes then there's no reason not to, really
4:14 AM
it's just worth noting that something being modified in translation/porting doesn't necessarily mean it's used ingame
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:15 AM
oh i definitely agree
4:15 AM
i was mostly quibbling about the possible circumstances
Azure 1/8/2018 4:15 AM
I'm pretty interested in this stuff since I'm a game dev myself
4:16 AM
people will sure have fun digging for loads of unused stuff once I finish this damn thing
4:16 AM
so many times when I replace something and then it's easier to just leave both things in the code/files instead of taking the effort to remove the old one
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:16 AM
pls include obligatory datamining fakeouts
4:16 AM
mm, i've heard that's pretty common
Azure 1/8/2018 4:16 AM
I assume that's the reason for most unused things in games
4:17 AM
like, removing the old one might break things, so better leave it in just in case...
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:17 AM
yeah, makes sense
Azure 1/8/2018 4:17 AM
you only start actively removing unused stuff if you're running low on space
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:18 AM
some debug functions I've found over the years tend to have the functions there but not linked anymore, just kinda setting there doing nothing.
Azure 1/8/2018 4:19 AM
all that stuff was probably wrapped in a big `#if debugbuild` block that they toggled off before release, but didn't include the menu itself since that's the most potentially "volatile" or they just forgot to
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:20 AM
aye
4:24 AM
strange case in Persona 4. The JP version of the game had the correct initialization of the debug menu but the international release had it removed but the text translated. I guess the translation team didn't know what it was and translated it regardless.
4:25 AM
The small sub functions remained though. (edited)
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:25 AM
is it possible that the localisation team removed the initialisation/functions after they were done putting them to use in the translation process?
4:26 AM
bc i can imagine they'd like having them on hand
Azure 1/8/2018 4:26 AM
oh yeah, with a huge RPG then it's probably worthwhile to have accessible debug functions for the translation team to skip around
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:26 AM
and of course it'd help to have all the relevant text strings in english for that
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:26 AM
yeah probably
4:26 AM
take the FFX proto for example. I think that debug menu was translated
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:26 AM
i figure it's possible for different builds of the same game to have some variantion there
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:26 AM
I can't remember though
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:26 AM
to my knowledge, in the case of fe9 debug stuff only survives in the pal build
4:27 AM
granted i'm not 100% sure and definitely don't have the expertise to investigate in more detail
4:27 AM
but as i recall there's a relevant file or two missing in the other builds
4:27 AM
of course i could be remembering very wrongly
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:27 AM
Ah yeah. That reminds me that one of the Spyro PS2 games had more debug level section options, while the USA version only had a few left. The PAL version had a lot more.
4:30 AM
https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Spyro:_The_Eternal_Night_(PlayStation_2,_Wii)#Level_Select
The Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night (PlayStation 2, Wii)
4:30 AM
found that a bit strange
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:31 AM
actually it almost makes sense
4:31 AM
krome is/was an australian (pal) studio, after all
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:31 AM
ah ok, that does make more sense
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:31 AM
stands to reason that maybe that version came out first, and later builds slowly chipped away at the debug content
4:33 AM
oh wait, the us got it first
4:33 AM
i guess the order in which the versions were mastered was a little fucky then? idk i'm just spouting nonsense at this point
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:34 AM
probably something like was master first
Azure 1/8/2018 4:34 AM
are there any glitches that are in one but not the other?
4:34 AM
Sonic Heroes PC version is based on an earlier build than the console versions, even though the PC version was released later (and is a total mess)
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:35 AM
not sure tbh. I was only checking for debug stuff. I really know nothing of these games.
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:35 AM
ouch
Azure 1/8/2018 4:35 AM
I think they couldn't get the newest Sonic Heroes build running on PC so they just went back a few until one of them compiled
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:35 AM
Did something like that happen to Batman Arkham Origins on PC?
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:35 AM
boy that's commitment to a quality product right there
Azure 1/8/2018 4:36 AM
it's terrible though, you can't remap controls so you need to continuously move your mouse forward to run, and you can also fly up past the skybox by standing on any slope as Knuckles and doing the glide move
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:36 AM
maybe i'm being a bit harsh and i don't know much of the circumstances
Azure 1/8/2018 4:36 AM
half the voice clips don't trigger, too
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:36 AM
but at the same time
4:36 AM
christ
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:36 AM
yikes
4:37 AM
Heh, I remember playing a bit of game called Two Worlds Two or something like that on PS3. It was really a mess. Voice lines stopped or played too fast, cutscenes would end quickly, physics were really glitched. It was a really bad game altogether on any platform though.
Azure 1/8/2018 4:37 AM
the funniest thing about that though, is that early builds (including the PC version) have a glitch where it can only register one new button press at a time - so, pressing jump+attack on the same frame will only do one of them even though you should be able to do both
4:38 AM
they fixed that for the console release... and didn't do enough testing past then, so there's a bad bug involving pushing two buttons on the same frame (it builds up a ton of super meter really quickly)
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:38 AM
heh
Azure 1/8/2018 4:38 AM
you can't do it on the PC version because its brokenness prevents the bug
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:38 AM
man the glitchiest thing i can ever claim to have played is spyro enter the dragonfly
4:38 AM
in comparison i'm feeling pretty damn deprived of Glitch Fun
Azure 1/8/2018 4:39 AM
hey man, just boot up Sonic Adventure
4:40 AM
I found a polygon that makes Sonic spin around in circles if you stand on it and don't push anything
4:40 AM
(still a pretty fun game though!)
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:40 AM
now that's commitment to going fast
Azure 1/8/2018 4:41 AM
there's a ground seam in the hub world that makes you do your "landing from a jump" animation 30 times per second too
4:42 AM
oh, there's also DK64, where you can swim through any wall in the game just by pushing the first-person button
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:42 AM
I bet that's used a lot in speedruns (edited)
Azure 1/8/2018 4:43 AM
yeah, and they also throw grenades to cause lag, which lets you clip through any wall on land too
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:43 AM
heh neat
4:43 AM
I remember doing something similar in a game I played a long time ago.
Azure 1/8/2018 4:44 AM
DK64 also has my favorite glitch of all-time, but explaining it takes 10 minutes and it's 5AM and I really need to sleep
4:44 AM
remind me tomorrow
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:45 AM
OH it was gta san andreas. Put on the fast animation cheat, get in a tank and start shooting tank rounds really quick and eventually it will propel you really really high / far into the sky. You might even crash your game going too fast.
4:45 AM
night
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:47 AM
one of my personal favourites i've heard about, if not actually done, is a crash 2 one where a very specific sequence of bounces on enemies and bouncy crates will let you drastically exceed the usual kill-enemy-by-consecutive-bouncing reward count to get entire crystals and gems
punk7890 1/8/2018 4:47 AM
omg I found a clip of someone doing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AHKClPdC9w
James47889
San Andreas Flying Tank!!
Azure 1/8/2018 4:47 AM
I don't think the Crash 2 one involves a specific sequence?
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:47 AM
yeah a misleading description
Azure 1/8/2018 4:47 AM
you just bounce on a crate 255+ times and they forgot to cap it so it starts giving you random crap
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:48 AM
i guess i meant "specific" as in there's maybe one or two places in the entire game with the right nearby configuration of enemies and bouncy crates for it to be practicable
4:48 AM
my b sorry
Azure 1/8/2018 4:48 AM
it's like in Final Fantasy... 5 I think, where you can walk up and down the same set of stairs for 30 minutes and it starts corrupting memory
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:48 AM
wow
Azure 1/8/2018 4:48 AM
ANY set of stairs
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:48 AM
holy hell
Azure 1/8/2018 4:48 AM
I wish I could remember which one it was though, it's one of the SNES ones
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:49 AM
does ff5 do something special when you're moving down stairs or something?
4:49 AM
some sort of environmental or music increment effect?
Azure 1/8/2018 4:49 AM
it records your previous position, so it can take you back there when you exit, and you overflow the buffer
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 4:49 AM
o ok
Netscape Navigator 1/8/2018 6:05 AM
it's FF4
6:07 AM
the game keeps track of your intended 'floor' level for the Warp spell
6:08 AM
except for some pairs of staircases that don't function properly and keep incrementing the level until it rolls over and you try to warp to floor -1
ƒluƒƒу 1/8/2018 6:09 AM
holy hell that's even more amazing
Netscape Navigator 1/8/2018 6:12 AM
doorways can also cause the glitch effect once you've rolled over the counter (edited)
6:13 AM
because they use the same value to remeber where to put the player back when they go back through the door
Deleted User 1/8/2018 6:42 AM
Yeah the only reason we had some better guesses is because we had a guy who could translate some japanese so we just slapped it on the doc
Deleted User 1/8/2018 7:30 AM
If you guys have anything to ask, tag me here. I probably know the most about the game internally
CheetahPixie 1/8/2018 7:31 AM
well, i'm gonna just ask for some reverse engineering tips
Deleted User 1/8/2018 7:36 AM
About what?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/8/2018 9:26 AM
at least they patched swim through walls on EU DK64
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/8/2018 9:30 AM
GerbilSoft 1/8/2018 10:34 AM
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-8-Patches-Spectre
10:34 AM
"Retpoline" patches pushed for gcc8
10:34 AM
if enabled, it replaces indirect branches with call-and-return thunks
GerbilSoft 1/8/2018 10:50 AM
https://support.google.com/faqs/answer/7625886
Azure 1/8/2018 1:43 PM
okay so, regarding DK64
1:43 PM
there's a minigame where you play as a crocodile, and need to scare beavers into falling into the hole in the middle of the level
1:43 PM
1:44 PM
this is notoriously EXTREMELY hard, and the collision is glitchy (they'll often bounce off the side of the hole as if it's a wall, and prevent you from scoring)
1:44 PM
but, the game doesn't have support for switching playable characters to something so different from a Kong, so they used quite a hack to enable you to be a crocodile
1:45 PM
the game uses a state machine for your character, so "running" is a state, "jumping" is a state, etc
1:45 PM
"crocodile standing" and "crocodile jumping" and such are just separate states that are on all player characters, but there's generally no way to transition out of a crocodile state to one of the normal ones
1:46 PM
they overlooked one obscure way, though - you can get a beaver to push you against the wall just right, which makes you slide on the steep slope, which overrides all other states, so now you're in a regular state and you're just DK again
1:47 PM
and because the scoring system is just recording how many beavers die, and the hole is just a death pit... you can start punching them and it still counts for your score
1:47 PM
it makes things super easy and fast if you can get the glitch (which I think is too inconsistent for RTA, but TASes do it)
1:48 PM
it's one of my favorite glitches just because of how much it reveals about the game's programming
AnkyloSource 1/8/2018 2:25 PM
that's awesome, and nice writeup!
GerbilSoft 1/8/2018 2:58 PM
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNU-Bazaar-Breezy and now, a fork of a version control system that no one uses
GerbilSoft 1/8/2018 3:56 PM
@eientei https://randomascii.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/finding-a-cpu-design-bug-in-the-xbox-360/
brucedawson
Finding a CPU Design Bug in the Xbox 360
The recent reveal of Meltdown and Spectre reminded me of the time I found a related design bug in the Xbox 360 CPU – a newly added instruction whose mere existence was dangerous. Back in 2005 I was…
3:56 PM
tl;dr combination of a non-cache-coherent prefetch instruction (xdcbt; specific to the 360 CPU) plus branch prediction == random crashes
eientei 1/8/2018 5:36 PM
Neat
5:36 PM
Time will tell if it will lead to non-JTAG hacking of the 360?
GerbilSoft 1/8/2018 5:51 PM
probably won't
Revo 1/8/2018 5:51 PM
360 still doesnt have a non JTAG hack? i am surprised
GerbilSoft 1/8/2018 5:51 PM
the crash is because the caches lose coherency and some heap buffer corrupts
5:52 PM
but doing this requires running arbitrary code
5:53 PM
alternative reading: MS adds instruction to "improve performance" at the cost of random crashes
Revo 1/8/2018 6:11 PM
so guys
6:11 PM
remember old_charmap? in the ruby/sapph ROM
6:11 PM
6:12 PM
this?
6:12 PM
well, it had a tilemap
6:12 PM
so uh, i took it to a tilemap editor
6:12 PM
6:12 PM
`opponent, debug, fight, battle, clear, load, save`
6:12 PM
you're looking at some very very very very early menu tests
Revenant 1/8/2018 6:13 PM
nice
Δndrew P. 1/8/2018 6:18 PM
Whoaa
punk7890 1/8/2018 6:18 PM
neat
Revo 1/8/2018 6:21 PM
ive got more unused graphics with their actual tilemaps discovered
6:21 PM
6:21 PM
water_splash
Revo 1/8/2018 6:29 PM
more stuff
6:29 PM
remember this?
6:29 PM
i mean it's on TCRF
6:29 PM
well, i actually loaded its tilemap
6:29 PM
punk7890 1/8/2018 6:33 PM
I've only played Pokemon blue and silver/gold/crystal. (edited)
6:33 PM
never did have a GBA
Revo 1/8/2018 6:36 PM
6:36 PM
the beta contest UI stuff
southmags4 1/8/2018 6:53 PM
racial slur
Revo 1/8/2018 6:53 PM
6:53 PM
line_sketch_2
southmags4 1/8/2018 6:53 PM
now kick me
6:53 PM
racial slur
6:53 PM
jk
Revo 1/8/2018 6:53 PM
eientei 1/8/2018 7:44 PM
@southmags4 Try harder
GerbilSoft 1/8/2018 7:46 PM
[This racial slur was blocked because you don't have the Komcast Klassy Kable package. Upgrade today for only $14.88/mo extra!]
old acc! inactive 1/8/2018 7:51 PM
nigeria
southmags4 1/8/2018 7:52 PM
rip
7:52 PM
why'd that get deleted
7:52 PM
oh nvmd
7:52 PM
it said it deleted but it came back
7:52 PM
ok my next tactic-
7:53 PM
(Insert sexist comment here)
GerbilSoft 1/8/2018 7:54 PM
YOUR MOM™
5
punk7890 1/8/2018 8:03 PM
hi
AnkyloSource 1/8/2018 8:11 PM
I dumped my brothers copy of a game we have and found out it's an earlier revision than mine it's probably not hard to come by, but It was cool dumping it and finding immediate differences!
Deleted User 1/8/2018 8:14 PM
What game?
AnkyloSource 1/8/2018 8:15 PM
Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why'd You Steal Our Garbage?!! on 3ds, still!
8:15 PM
I take forever on these kinda things lol
punk7890 1/8/2018 8:15 PM
Why did he steal the garbage.
AnkyloSource 1/8/2018 8:16 PM
it's been so long since I played it that I honestly couldn't tell you
8:16 PM
i think he made a princess out of it
Deleted User 1/8/2018 8:17 PM
I think that also released on vita
eientei 1/8/2018 8:36 PM
@AnkyloSource the later revision probably just implemented the patch and/or updated the firmware partition
AnkyloSource 1/8/2018 8:42 PM
I dont think there's a patch for the old version (as far as I can tell). but yea the firmware update is 4.3 instead of 4.1, and there are some tiny things changed in romfs
8:42 PM
I haven't actually checked the code.bin yet though
eientei 1/8/2018 9:28 PM
There's one for Adventure Time: Explore the Dungeon Because I DONT KNOW!
9:29 PM
Hm. Doesn't look like it
AnkyloSource 1/8/2018 9:55 PM
I thought I found a fancy escape code, but it was just utf-8 characters expressed as ascii >.>
divingkxt 1/8/2018 10:02 PM
https://twitter.com/ryuuiisous/status/931401870735581184
ned (@ryuuiisous)
@skeletoknight EXTREMELY IMPORTANT NEWS : a bunch of people managed to rip servant portraits with an emulator and king hassan has an unused blushing sprite
10:03 PM
from Fate/Grand Order (edited)
Incineroar 1/8/2018 10:03 PM
oh nice
10:03 PM
the Audio Test code on TCRF that works with all releases of Ruby seems to also work perfectly with Sapphire
10:03 PM
at least in the Japanese release of it
10:04 PM
I'll have to add that code to my Gameshark
10:04 PM
...interesting
10:04 PM
there's a bug with the code
10:05 PM
if you start a new game, then use the code, when you cancel out it'll boot you back to the title screen
10:05 PM
and when you view the continue screen, the save file won't be present (Even if you save prior to viewing the menu)
10:05 PM
you'd have to reset the game to get it back
Revo 1/8/2018 10:06 PM
You can run the sound test menu by overwriting a menu callback with the menu init callback
10:06 PM
this is trivial to do with the dism
10:06 PM
i just changed the OPTIONS callback to the sound test
10:06 PM
and it brought me to the menu
10:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi81opGNAZA
Nobody
R/S Sound Effects
Incineroar 1/8/2018 10:08 PM
oh yeah, i wouldn't doubt that
10:08 PM
i was testing it on Japanese Sapphire because I have a cartridge copy of it as well
Revo 1/8/2018 10:08 PM
emerald japanese also has the sound test menu
Incineroar 1/8/2018 10:09 PM
As does Fire Red
Revo 1/8/2018 10:09 PM
emerald US however actually removed it
Incineroar 1/8/2018 10:11 PM
welp. something went wrong
10:13 PM
and again. this code is... dangerous
10:14 PM
oh
10:14 PM
i see what's happening
10:14 PM
and it's actually really interesting
Revo 1/8/2018 10:16 PM
what did you do
Incineroar 1/8/2018 10:18 PM
no idea
10:18 PM
but
10:18 PM
it seems to be me breaking the sequence of states
10:19 PM
when i invoke that menu, the game is in a playing state
10:19 PM
when i exit it, it goes to the title screen, which doesn't clear this game playing state
10:19 PM
and when I go to Continue, it seems to be where I left off
Revo 1/8/2018 10:19 PM
it needs to be called as a menu callback from the main menu
Incineroar 1/8/2018 10:19 PM
even if it's different from the save data
10:19 PM
which seems to be key
10:20 PM
so if i say
10:20 PM
my save data has me in Littleroot Town, but I go to Oldale Town, then invoke the menu
10:20 PM
when I go to Continue, I'm in a broken Oldale Town
10:20 PM
but if I do a proper reset and go to Continue, I'm back in Littleroot Town
10:21 PM
it's like a super-ghetto save state
10:22 PM
probably gonna edit into the page that it should also work with Sapphire
Revo 1/8/2018 10:22 PM
you should be redirecting something like options
Incineroar 1/8/2018 10:22 PM
but to not do any gameplay as it could break one's save data
10:22 PM
this does Options
10:22 PM
I'm using the code on the TCRF page
10:23 PM
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Ruby_and_Sapphire/Debug_Menus#Sound_Test
Debug Menus
Incineroar 1/8/2018 10:30 PM
i imagine i could implement it as a press of the Select button on the title screen or something
10:30 PM
kinda like what it actually was
Revo 1/8/2018 10:32 PM
hijack main_menu.c in pokeruby
10:32 PM
its trivial to do, man
10:33 PM
declare an extern to the InitSoundCheck function, and replace the callback init
10:33 PM
recompile
10:33 PM
ezpz
Incineroar 1/8/2018 10:49 PM
oh yeah, of course
Revo 1/8/2018 10:59 PM
more likely they just checked if R was held while selecting options or some shit like that
10:59 PM
cause it perfectly executes the sound test
Incineroar 1/8/2018 11:17 PM
in the debug ROM, pressing Select on the title screen brings up a menu that has Sound Test as an option
11:17 PM
that's how it was done originally
divingkxt 1/8/2018 11:40 PM
https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/943935052546826242
Steve Troughton-Smith (@stroughtonsmith)
Curiously the debug menu is enabled by default (press `)
11:41 PM
For all the Civ 6 people in here
eientei 1/9/2018 12:54 AM
Eh, not really a debug menu
12:54 AM
It's a debug console for benchmarking
Deleted User 1/9/2018 1:26 AM
@Deleted User Just wanted to say that I love seeing your TCRF related tweets. Like about what games have hidden debug menus, etc
1:27 AM
That's all I wanted to say atm.
1:27 AM
thanks
Neko May 1/9/2018 4:01 AM
I have tweets too.
4:02 AM
https://twitter.com/Neko_Ed/status/950412145199546370
Neko Ed (@Neko_Ed)
National Semiconductor INS8080AD - 8080A @ 2MHz. Second-source copy of the Intel 8080A. SBCDIP-40 with gold cap and pins. Made Week 44 of 1979.
BrokenBenny 1/9/2018 7:16 AM
I am gonna make the TCRF page for Zorro.
7:16 AM
It's a videogame adaptation of a series of Zorro books, released in 1995. A Prince of Persia clone is what it is.
7:17 AM
I used a CD copy of the game from The Iso Zone
7:18 AM
While there aren't much (or any?) unused content in it, it did get a patch called "super upgrade".
The Beesh-Spweesh! 1/9/2018 7:35 AM
THE FUCK?
7:36 AM
I was blocked on TCRF!
Deleted User 1/9/2018 7:36 AM
rip :l
7:36 AM
what happened?
eientei 1/9/2018 7:38 AM
Hi Bruce
The Beesh-Spweesh! 1/9/2018 7:41 AM
eientei 1/9/2018 7:42 AM
Hm. Wonder why this role isn't stopping images from being uploaded...
The Beesh-Spweesh! 1/9/2018 7:42 AM
Are you on the oficial SidWiz Discord?
eientei 1/9/2018 7:43 AM
Yes Bruce, I am
The Beesh-Spweesh! 1/9/2018 7:43 AM
I really wanted to join it
Deleted User 1/9/2018 7:44 AM
not sure what's the deal but hope it doesn't bother you too much
eientei 1/9/2018 7:44 AM
Well that's too bad Bruce
The Beesh-Spweesh! 1/9/2018 7:45 AM
why not?
eientei 1/9/2018 7:45 AM
@Deleted User Just a kid being mad due to his history of doxxing and getting banned off multiple places
The Beesh-Spweesh! 1/9/2018 7:45 AM
sorry!
eientei 1/9/2018 7:45 AM
I'm sorry, but a simple "sorry" isn't going to cut it
Deleted User 1/9/2018 7:46 AM
i'm not gonna touch this
The Beesh-Spweesh! 1/9/2018 7:46 AM
but where did you find it
Deleted User 1/9/2018 7:46 AM
last time i tried to correct people's attitudes and negativity, i just got enemies
eientei 1/9/2018 7:47 AM
That's fair
7:47 AM
@The Beesh-Spweesh! Take this to PM please
The Beesh-Spweesh! 1/9/2018 7:49 AM
You didn't send me anything
eientei 1/9/2018 7:50 AM
Take this conversation to PM please.
Nex 1/9/2018 7:51 AM
isak 1/9/2018 10:59 AM
Nex 1/9/2018 11:09 AM
AnkyloSource 1/9/2018 12:45 PM
12:45 PM
anyone doing any cool stuff today
Nex 1/9/2018 12:55 PM
I wish
Deleted User 1/9/2018 12:57 PM
is work cool
cyborg 1/9/2018 1:03 PM
Iiiiit's 2am and I should be sleeping
1:04 PM
Also hello, I'm new here
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/9/2018 1:04 PM
hai
Nex 1/9/2018 1:05 PM
sleep is for the weak
cyborg 1/9/2018 1:07 PM
Pretty much
GerbilSoft 1/9/2018 2:02 PM
i wrote some code to decrypt a Wii WAD file and decompress the LZ77 icon.bin file
2:02 PM
...and then realized that Wii channels don't have static icons at all - data management shows the animated icon
2:02 PM
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
2:03 PM
(the 'animated' icon involves multiple layers, which requires writing a ridiculously complex parser and i'm not doing that)
Deleted User 1/9/2018 2:03 PM
Oh
2:03 PM
Isnt that icon stored in every game's romfs
GerbilSoft 1/9/2018 2:03 PM
Wii doesn't use RomFS
2:04 PM
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Content.bin
2:04 PM
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Opening.bnr
Opening.bnr
2:04 PM
Wii save files do have standard bitmap icons and banners
2:04 PM
so i can reuse the crypto for that
Deleted User 1/9/2018 2:05 PM
Oh channels
2:05 PM
Nvm me
MAR 1/9/2018 2:48 PM
Nex 1/9/2018 3:31 PM
Wut
Deleted User 1/9/2018 5:59 PM
Agreed on the "wut"
MAR 1/9/2018 6:04 PM
rare katamari game
6:05 PM
theres like only 2 videos about it on youtube
6:05 PM
no ost rips no lets plays just the trailer and ending theme
6:12 PM
id post the .cia here but i dont know if thats against the rules here
Huks 1/9/2018 6:22 PM
Yeah we definitely don't want the CIA here
MAR 1/9/2018 6:23 PM
rip
Revenant 1/9/2018 6:25 PM
Δndrew P. 1/9/2018 6:28 PM
I think there's a command-line EXE for making gc game banners. I have it somewhere on my computer
6:30 PM
thing is that it's probably 16-bit
old acc! inactive 1/9/2018 6:40 PM
@MAR DM?
MAR 1/9/2018 7:07 PM
ill upload somewhere else soon
eientei 1/9/2018 9:06 PM
It's not really rare given that it was DSiWare so tehre's no limit on the physical release
Chorus Line 1/9/2018 11:10 PM
Anyone know what game/show this character is from?
divingkxt 1/9/2018 11:11 PM
None I can recognize.
11:11 PM
I see a bunch of Russian and Polish sites with that though, all suspect.
Chorus Line 1/9/2018 11:12 PM
hm
11:13 PM
I found it in Anachronox. There's even one with her shirt edited lol
CheetahPixie 1/10/2018 5:40 AM
something something leaked RWBY
Meow 1/10/2018 6:12 AM
@Xkeeper @🔧 Admins @🔪 Mods @pcjoegamer is that NPZ kid I believe, he joined OG as #4461 (pcgamerjoe) and he joined the forums with that same name so assume the idiot joined here too.
6:13 AM
ƒluƒƒу 1/10/2018 6:14 AM
this is extremely tiny but i figure i might as well mention it here
6:14 AM
a buddy of mine just turned up a bit of an oddity in fire emblem 5 while searching for something else entirely in it
6:14 AM
6:15 AM
oddly enough this date is connected to a routine
6:15 AM
`[8:52 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: also, time travel date is after some dialogue which is after some events [8:53 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: but I somehow don't have the events ripped, it seems [8:53 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: not the dialogue? [8:53 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: nor* [9:08 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: there's a routine that draws the date to the screen [9:17 PM] Cute Mage: ...did they intend to have real time clock date on the save files? [9:17 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: by the date I mean the one mentioned above--it doesn't change [9:20 PM] Cute Mage: Oh [9:20 PM] Cute Mage: Sorry`
6:16 AM
`[9:27 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: anyway, can't find any references to the date loading stuff, sadly [9:29 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: there's dialogue immediately before it and more asm after [9:30 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: the routine that runs the asm after it is really early in the rom [9:30 PM] Zane | eats smilies' hats: so this is probably an old debugging thing from the same block of code?`
6:16 AM
it's super minor but the time travelly look of it made me laugh so here we are
Hiccup 1/10/2018 7:43 AM
unused code is interesting
FMecha 1/10/2018 9:18 AM
Looks like I screwed the todo here... can anyone fix it? https://tcrf.net/Colin_McRae_Rally_2.0_(PlayStation)
Colin McRae Rally 2.0 (PlayStation)
Revenant 1/10/2018 9:25 AM
@FMecha https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Colin_McRae_Rally_2.0_%28PlayStation%29&type=revision&diff=535507&oldid=535504
index.php?title=ColinMcRae_Rally_2.0%28PlayStation%29&type=revision&diff=535507&oldid=535504
9:25 AM
kind of a known problem with mediawiki templates, you have to do this if there's a URL with a = sign in it as a parameter
9:25 AM
or else the parser gets confused
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/10/2018 4:49 PM
@Meow the npzman alt you mentioned has now been banned from here
Meow 1/10/2018 4:49 PM
Thanks Shoop
4:49 PM
I had a rant at him on twitter.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/10/2018 4:50 PM
and then he comes back WITH ANOTHER FUCKING ALT
Nex 1/10/2018 4:50 PM
Probably he will come back lul
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/10/2018 4:50 PM
@Meow np fam :P
Nex 1/10/2018 4:50 PM
Oh
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/10/2018 4:50 PM
and yes that alt has been banned
Meow 1/10/2018 4:50 PM
LOL
Nex 1/10/2018 4:50 PM
✌
Meow 1/10/2018 4:51 PM
He never gives up
Nex 1/10/2018 4:51 PM
Too bad multiple identities can't fix his mental health
Meow 1/10/2018 4:51 PM
ohhh
gingerbeardman 1/10/2018 6:30 PM
hi, can somebody please undelete the following two pages? as I have new information that is allowed to be added (regonal differences). https://tcrf.net/True_Golf_Classics:_Pebble_Beach_Golf_Links_(Genesis) https://tcrf.net/New_3D_Golf_Simulation:_Pebble_Beach_no_Hatou
True Golf Classics: Pebble Beach Golf Links (Genesis)
New 3D Golf Simulation: Pebble Beach no Hatou
6:30 PM
Thanks!
ゲームボーイ64 1/10/2018 7:09 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 looks like the fun is spreading
divingkxt 1/10/2018 8:06 PM
@gingerbeardman I'll undelete the first link, and merge the second link in with that.
8:06 PM
It'll be a redirect.
divingkxt 1/10/2018 8:22 PM
Anything other than publisher logo changes?
8:26 PM
brb...
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Rim 1/10/2018 9:28 PM
Holy canoli, you have no idea how ecstatic i am that there's a discord now!
Δndrew P. 1/10/2018 9:43 PM
so i found something in the (USA) PS1 version of Final Fantasy 7. it's not really anything mind-blowing though, its just some japanese text that mentions something about cleaning the game disc
ƒluƒƒу 1/10/2018 9:44 PM
:O?
Δndrew P. 1/10/2018 9:45 PM
It's some text inside /MINT/DISKINFO.CNF
Revo 1/10/2018 9:46 PM
so remember the subject of decomp? well, i was working with someone on DS decomp earlier
9:47 PM
and it looks like US Diamond/Pearl US Platinum and US Heart Gold/Soul Silver use the same compiler, based on function size comparisons of largest non-sdk functions
ゲームボーイ64 1/10/2018 9:47 PM
Interesting
Revo 1/10/2018 9:47 PM
so ive been experimenting with known Codewarrior compilers out there
ゲームボーイ64 1/10/2018 9:47 PM
But not largely surprising
Revo 1/10/2018 9:47 PM
and low, we got a function sized 0x4E4 to match Diamond/Pearl's `GetSubstruct` function
9:48 PM
incoming paste:
9:48 PM
`union PokemonSubstruct *GetSubstruct(struct BoxPokemon *boxMon, u32 personality, u8 substructType) { union PokemonSubstruct *substruct; switch ((personality & 0x3E000) >> 13) { case 0: case 24: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(0,1,2,3) case 1: case 25: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(0,1,3,2) case 2: case 26: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(0,2,1,3) case 3: case 27: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(0,3,1,2) case 4: case 28: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(0,2,3,1) case 5: case 29: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(0,3,2,1) case 6: case 30: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(1,0,2,3) case 7: case 31: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(1,0,3,2) case 8: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(2,0,1,3) case 9: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(3,0,1,2) case 10: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(2,0,3,1) case 11: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(3,0,2,1) case 12: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(1,2,0,3) case 13: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(1,3,0,2) case 14: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(2,1,0,3) case 15: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(3,1,0,2) case 16: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(2,3,0,1) case 17: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(3,2,0,1) case 18: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(1,2,3,0) case 19: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(1,3,2,0) case 20: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(2,1,3,0) case 21: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(3,1,2,0) case 22: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(2,3,1,0) case 23: SUBSTRUCT_CASE(3,2,1,0) } return substruct; }`
ゲームボーイ64 1/10/2018 9:48 PM
oh fun, codewarrior.
Revo 1/10/2018 9:48 PM
this matches D/P's `GetSubstruct`
9:48 PM
which is a port of gen 3's GetSubstruct
9:48 PM
the code produced from mwccarm.exe's 3.0 build 114 exactly matches the ROM
ゲームボーイ64 1/10/2018 9:48 PM
so then, it's a derivative of the GBA compiler?
Revo 1/10/2018 9:48 PM
no. closed sourced
ゲームボーイ64 1/10/2018 9:49 PM
Oh.
Revo 1/10/2018 9:49 PM
so decomp relies on leaked software, which means i certainly cant give out the software used to compile it
9:49 PM
you'll just have to google or whatever
9:49 PM
the fact we matched a 0x4E4 function is good news either our compiler is it, or it is 1 or 2 versions off of the version used
divingkxt 1/10/2018 10:10 PM
Metrowerks had versions for specific systems, including the GBA.
Revo 1/10/2018 10:11 PM
right. but we matched a pretty damn beefy function in Diamond/Pearl
10:11 PM
which is good news for a decomp, even if its OpenRCT2 style
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punk7890 1/10/2018 10:22 PM
after 3 or so months of on and off work, I think I am about 95% done this page https://tcrf.net/Scarlett:_Nichijou_no_Kyoukaisen
Scarlett: Nichijou no Kyoukaisen
Revo 1/10/2018 10:23 PM
https://hastebin.com/ajekapizak.m
10:23 PM
this is the function which `mwccarm3 test.c -o test.o -O4 -S -proc arm946e -thumb -constpool -fp soft -opt speed`
punk7890 1/10/2018 10:24 PM
I wonder if that's a first on TCRF, a game within a game that is unused.
10:26 PM
actually, I think I am done this page now
10:26 PM
there's about 1250 more unused graphics but they are all small icons that I won't be adding heh.
divingkxt 1/10/2018 11:38 PM
Vectorman has a "Toasty" clip in it.
11:39 PM
Not sure if it's used, but still.
11:42 PM
All of the sound clips are at the end-ish of the ROM.
11:42 PM
8-bit unsigned PCM, Mono, 8000 Hz.
Dezent 1/10/2018 11:43 PM
Game within a game?
11:43 PM
yo dawg
divingkxt 1/10/2018 11:43 PM
Three unused games within a game rather.
11:43 PM
Though considering they all run the same engine
11:43 PM
and visual novel engines are very portable usually.
11:44 PM
It's possible they wanted release it on the PS2, yet didn't for whatever reason.
punk7890 1/11/2018 12:38 AM
might have been that way
12:40 AM
at first I was wondering where all these images were coming from then I decided to poke a bit more
12:40 AM
reveling these extra games
12:41 AM
it does seem possible they were going to be included as extra content at one point since they do fully work and are saved to your memory card when you advance the story
12:42 AM
+ all the music from those games are also there
Deleted User 1/11/2018 1:06 AM
there's that F-Zero GX/AX
1:07 AM
I'm sure there are at least a few more but I can't remember
divingkxt 1/11/2018 1:12 AM
Pokemon Puzzle Challenge has Panel de Pon.
1:12 AM
Even in the International versions,
1:12 AM
hidden behind a cheat code that wasn't found until 2013.
1:13 AM
The article for that is also missing a lot. There's more leftovers from Panel de Pon, plus stuff from earlier versions.
Deleted User 1/11/2018 1:13 AM
Crash Nitro Kart GBA has a rhythm game hidden away but they tell you how to access it
1:13 AM
it's something like L+R+Start/Select while turning on the unit
ƒluƒƒу 1/11/2018 1:15 AM
oh yeah, i remember that
punk7890 1/11/2018 1:17 AM
heh neat
Incineroar 1/11/2018 2:04 AM
Crash Nitro Cart has it - Crash Party USA. Additionally, Crash Bandicoot Purple/Fusion has a Spyro version called Spyro Party USA
2:05 AM
(oh look crash games)
Revenant 1/11/2018 10:18 AM
https://twitter.com/KirbyInformer/status/951462656937832448
Kirby Informer (@KirbyInformer)
Kirby: Star Allies official North American box art!
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10:18 AM
no more pissed off kirby on NA box art, what is the world coming to
Deleted User 1/11/2018 10:21 AM
fixed
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/11/2018 10:21 AM
Dezent 1/11/2018 1:04 PM
angery
LuigiBlood 1/11/2018 2:37 PM
https://twitter.com/ZodiakHunter/status/951488084641812481
Zodiak (@ZodiakHunter)
if you have a switch and you're not buying kirby please donate your switch to someone who will buy kirby
Incineroar 1/11/2018 3:19 PM
the direct was nice
3:19 PM
kinda surprised they didn't say anything about it
MAR 1/11/2018 3:31 PM
marketing tactic
3:31 PM
they kinda knew the only interesting things were dark souls and maybe kirby
Δndrew P. 1/11/2018 5:20 PM
So i still have my disc copy of Crash Bash, and there is a "SPRYRO3" folder with SPYRO3.EXE. I know that this is a PSX-EXE, but I wonder what this was for? Could it just be a demo? (edited)
Huks 1/11/2018 5:23 PM
It's a demo, yes
5:24 PM
All the Crash games from 1998-2000 had Spyro demos and vice versa
Δndrew P. 1/11/2018 5:25 PM
ah okay.
Azure 1/11/2018 6:18 PM
I think you enter a code on the title screen for it?
FMecha 1/11/2018 7:33 PM
Just remembered, I have Moofia on my old flash drive, it was how it called before Italian-American groups complained and it became Bovinator.
Azure 1/11/2018 7:37 PM
Moofia is like, 10 times better as a name
7:38 PM
that's kind of disappointing
FMecha 1/11/2018 7:38 PM
And this is the later version
FMecha 1/11/2018 8:03 PM
And done https://tcrf.net/Bovinator
Bovinator
divingkxt 1/11/2018 9:08 PM
Er...what.
GerbilSoft 1/11/2018 9:10 PM
9:15 PM
(edited)
punk7890 1/11/2018 10:48 PM
heh, managed to find some unused debug functions for infinite health, ammo, all weapons and unlock all levels for Jet Force Gemini. These were also used in the E3 demo version of the game, enabled by default. (edited)
Azure 1/12/2018 12:31 AM
aren't those just unlocked by collecting enough heads?
12:32 AM
or am I thinking of something else?
punk7890 1/12/2018 12:44 AM
iirc there is only 3 cheats unlockable
12:44 AM
play as kids, rainbow blood and ants as pants
12:45 AM
these ones were in a debug menu in the Kiosk version of the game
12:45 AM
the debug menu isn't in final but the debug cheats are
12:46 AM
not sure if I should label these as "unused code"
Deleted User 1/12/2018 10:59 AM
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skeletonhugger 1/12/2018 3:38 PM
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3:38 PM
bunch of unused Bloodborne stuff
divingkxt 1/12/2018 3:40 PM
https://tcrf.net/Bloodborne We have an article, but wow, is it missing a ton.
Bloodborne
3:40 PM
No surprise as it's a PS4 title.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/12/2018 3:40 PM
i wonder what unused stuff RAC PS4 has
3:41 PM
I know that there's these OOB grey cubes on Veldin
3:41 PM
And Aridia has an unused room iirc
Planet of Trash 1/12/2018 4:21 PM
Same for the Flatout games o:
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 4:38 PM
I scanned a rare business catalog of the German publisher Bomico today. Bomico was later swallowed by Infogrames and transformed into Infogrames Germany, but this 1997/98 catalog is from right before that. Also only shortly later, Havas bought Blizzard (and Sierra), and somehow this lead to Bomico/Infogrames not publishing Starcraft and instead it was published by Havas (as far as I can tell). Anyways, the catalog features a rare promotional box shot of Starcraft on page 29: http://kultcds.com/Upload/Charts/Flyer/BomicoExtremGut.pdf Also it says there that Starcraft's marketing budget is greater than those of Diablo and Warcraft 2 combined. (Keep in mind that wc2 had 7 months of double-page ads in the biggest German pc gaming magazines, and the deluxe edition had its own radio campaign. Diablo was advertised fo 10 months, mostly double-page, plus 2 months for Hellfire and one month for low price, aswell as a boxed shareware release "Schnupperedition", etc.)
Nex 1/12/2018 4:47 PM
you ever came across anything related to a game called gothic?
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 4:47 PM
lol
Nex 1/12/2018 4:48 PM
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 4:48 PM
I collected shitloads of stuff for this polish friend of mine: http://gothic.arhn.eu
Nex 1/12/2018 4:48 PM
I see
4:48 PM
gothic is life dude
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 4:49 PM
especially the articles here were provided by me: http://gothic.arhn.eu/G1/galeria_prasy.html and quite a few screenshots
Nex 1/12/2018 4:49 PM
I saw that stuff actually, you did good work man
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 4:50 PM
oh and I actually own a CD from phenomedia (the parent company back then) which is about them entering the stock market. it is fully narrated (by the german voice of robin williams) and has a chapter on gothic and its developers
Nex 1/12/2018 4:50 PM
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 4:51 PM
details in this post: https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=410845#p410845
Nex 1/12/2018 4:52 PM
thanks man, really appreciate it
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 4:52 PM
you're welcome
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Planet of Trash 1/12/2018 4:53 PM
That's so neat o:
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 4:54 PM
Nex 1/12/2018 4:54 PM
gothic has so much development screenshots
4:55 PM
basically turned into a completly different game
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 4:55 PM
I wouldn't put it that drastically, but yea, it changed quite a bit
Nex 1/12/2018 4:56 PM
it had multiplayer, classes etc.
4:57 PM
honestly can't imagine multiplayer working (wich is what they didn't manage to do) (edited)
4:59 PM
in an video björn pankratz even briefly mentions that they had multiplayer and tried to implent all kinds of things like a cutscene handler etc.
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 5:00 PM
if you'Re interested in the sales ranking of gothic and probably some other info, I can recommend looking through my charts page: http://kultcds.com/Upload/Charts/ I recommended it here a few times before...
Nex 1/12/2018 5:00 PM
huh, will see if I can find some info, thanks for sharing all this
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 5:01 PM
oh and seemingly I once uploaded all the Gothic demos to my (though mostly mrflibble curates it) games page: http://kultcds.com/Games/index.php?page=game&game=23 but those should be known from elsewhere already
Nex 1/12/2018 5:02 PM
yea I got those from world of gothic, thanks though
5:03 PM
a press demo and the canned sequel leaked recently too
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 5:03 PM
yea, saw that
5:04 PM
have you found the download link for the phenomedia cd?
Nex 1/12/2018 5:04 PM
yep
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 5:04 PM
excellent
Nex 1/12/2018 5:04 PM
boots for me too
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 5:04 PM
I think on some systems it has a bug where the voiceover stops a few seconds too early (edited)
Nex 1/12/2018 5:07 PM
didn't happen for me but the gothic demos have some minor errors on my system
5:12 PM
and neat you got a proper list of the diablo demos, that fanmade alpha always confused me
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 5:16 PM
oh, actually half (yes, we counted them) of the screenshots on diablo-evolution.net where found by me^^ (edited)
5:16 PM
mystery and I spent a few months categorizing all that stuff properly (edited)
Nex 1/12/2018 5:17 PM
youre doing gods work
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 5:17 PM
I'm doing work anyone could do
Nex 1/12/2018 5:18 PM
anyone but no one did besides you
Hallfiry 1/12/2018 5:18 PM
maybe. but praising my glorious deeds is quite offtopic...
Nex 1/12/2018 5:19 PM
just take this
gingerbeardman 1/12/2018 5:54 PM
@divingkxt thanks for undeleting the page. yes there are lots of differences between the two - I just added them. also, are you sure about your "Partially Unused Font"? I see lots of lower case letters. (edited)
divingkxt 1/12/2018 5:55 PM
Yep, still sure about that.
5:55 PM
The lowercase letters aren't quite the same though.
gingerbeardman 1/12/2018 5:55 PM
Right you are! Good eyes
5:56 PM
I'm fascinated (and currently obsessed) with this series of games.
5:57 PM
thanks for your subsequent edit
divingkxt 1/12/2018 5:57 PM
You're welcome.
gingerbeardman 1/12/2018 6:04 PM
What emulator did you use to inspect/grab the font image?
divingkxt 1/12/2018 6:20 PM
Gens/GS
6:20 PM
https://segaretro.org/Gens/GS
GS
6:21 PM
http://www.soniccenter.org/gerbilsoft/gens/r7/gens-gs-r7-win32-pkg1.zip
6:21 PM
http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=1058 Here's how to use the debuggers in Gens/GS
TUTORIAL: Debugging with Gens
divingkxt 1/12/2018 6:29 PM
I also used YY-CHR to grab the uncompressed monochrome fonts.
6:30 PM
YY-CHR isn't an emulator, but it does help in grabbing stuff from ROMs.
6:30 PM
Not sure if this is familiar or anything, but I also found this.
Revenant 1/12/2018 6:36 PM
that looks offhand like one of the athena (developer) fonts
6:36 PM
like from dezaemon
6:36 PM
not sure if it actually is
cuba200611 1/12/2018 6:37 PM
Athena, they did J.J. Squawkers...
6:38 PM
That game runs on Seta hardware...
6:38 PM
It's weird...
Stewie1.0 1/12/2018 11:40 PM
Hi. Its me Stewie1.0
divingkxt 1/12/2018 11:43 PM
Hi.
11:43 PM
Have you tried looking in other PS3 and PS4 games?
Stewie1.0 1/12/2018 11:44 PM
Im not into any other PS3 games really, and PS4 games cant be dumped as of right now
MAR 1/12/2018 11:44 PM
didnt gta v for ps4 get dumped?
Stewie1.0 1/12/2018 11:44 PM
I dont play gta
divingkxt 1/12/2018 11:44 PM
Even if it did, the game would be enormous.
11:44 PM
Considering it's a game over 40 GB.
Stewie1.0 1/12/2018 11:45 PM
Outside of PS4, games r actually larger than wut they r on PS4
11:46 PM
For example, without dlc, Future Tone was around 28GB, but outside of PS4, its around 40GB
divingkxt 1/12/2018 11:47 PM
I smell compression.
Stewie1.0 1/12/2018 11:48 PM
Oh yea, soon we might be getting Arcade Future Tone dumped
11:49 PM
Someone i know bought the discs from the machine, not the actual machine, and it was only 14,000 yen. So if his purchase gets accepted, hes gona try to dump the files with those discs
11:49 PM
And then i can mod it too lol
GerbilSoft 1/13/2018 12:01 AM
i'm currently attempting to write a copy of Melee to my RVT-H
12:01 AM
rvtwriter won't do it because it's stupid ('master data file error')
12:01 AM
so i'm doing it with ddrescue and a hex editor
Deleted User 1/13/2018 12:01 AM
Lol
GerbilSoft 1/13/2018 12:01 AM
if it works, i'll write my own rvt writer tool
12:02 AM
i did dump what was on the HDD but it won't run on dolphin because dolphin doesn't support unencrypted wii games at the moment
GerbilSoft 1/13/2018 12:10 AM
okay, finally got the offsets right and it shows up in rvtwriter as melee, now to test it
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 12:11 AM
Idek if anyone knew wut i was talking about lol
GerbilSoft 1/13/2018 12:15 AM
bam!
12:15 AM
melee is running
12:16 AM
had to change region code from EUR to USA in the devkit menu, otherwise boot program kept complaining about a 'wrong disc'
12:16 AM
anyways, lemme back up the save files, then try the last story
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 12:20 AM
I was talking about this lol
12:20 AM
divingkxt 1/13/2018 12:28 AM
So, how did you get interested in the Hatsune Miku games?
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 12:29 AM
Well i wanted to try Mirai DX one year, and then i started to love Vocaloid
12:29 AM
But i think Diva is better
12:29 AM
Ive known about Vocaloid for several years, but didnt start listening to it till i was 17
punk7890 1/13/2018 2:05 AM
some ps4 games can be dumped
2:06 AM
most after 2016 cannot be anymore
Deleted User 1/13/2018 2:33 AM
There are scene releases out there too, that people can probably poke at. (PS4 dumps)
Video 1/13/2018 3:31 AM
Here's a very rough mockup of what the "Under Construction" overlay would probably do
3:33 AM
here's a better version
3:34 AM
accomplished by the black and white effect and the layers
ƒluƒƒу 1/13/2018 3:41 AM
ahh so it's intended less for incomplete graphics, and more for incomplete menu options/modes?
3:41 AM
that's neat
Video 1/13/2018 3:58 AM
i guess
3:58 AM
may have been used for an e3 demo
divingkxt 1/13/2018 3:59 AM
Tokyo Game Show demo is likely too.
Video 1/13/2018 3:59 AM
because many games that are in development at game show demos lock some features out
4:01 AM
so this is one of those games, i guess
ƒluƒƒу 1/13/2018 4:01 AM
hell i suspect there's even some merit to having a label like that from an internal perspective
4:02 AM
basically a huge warning that "yeah you shouldn't read too hard into this vis a vis bugfixing, it's still very wip"
4:02 AM
"feel free to try but i'm warning you"
Video 1/13/2018 4:04 AM
The file that has that and some other toy icons is named "EditToyA.NCER"
Video 1/13/2018 4:53 AM
i'm on the hunt for unused menus. here's my notes so far
4:56 AM
a simple mistake fucked the bottom screen up - whoops
Video 1/13/2018 6:10 AM
Video 1/13/2018 6:19 AM
OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THING
6:19 AM
HOLY SHIT
6:20 AM
THAT IS FUCKING NIGHTMARE FUEL
Dezent 1/13/2018 6:23 AM
Jesus christ
Video 1/13/2018 6:24 AM
what the fuck is that doing in a chibi robo game
Dezent 1/13/2018 6:24 AM
Apparently to scare people
Video 1/13/2018 6:24 AM
it isn't even used
Dezent 1/13/2018 6:25 AM
Huh
Video 1/13/2018 6:25 AM
6:26 AM
"MonsterPoweer"
6:27 AM
Video 1/13/2018 6:38 AM
power*
Deleted User 1/13/2018 10:20 AM
"Hazmatroth" leads to this http://chibirobo.wikia.com/wiki/General_Greenthumb
General Greenthumb
General Greenthumb is a toy in Chibi-Robo!: Park Patrol. He was later brainwashed by Miasmo and became Sergeant Smogglor. General Greenthumb was part of a franchise that promoted recycling and...
Deleted User 1/13/2018 10:55 AM
Deleted User 1/13/2018 12:09 PM
We l l UwU , ya f i n a l l y snapped
cyborg 1/13/2018 12:20 PM
Mood
Planet of Trash 1/13/2018 1:03 PM
UwU
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 1:37 PM
I keep forgetting to upload more stuff for some of the Diva games
1:37 PM
There's several more
ゲームボーイ64 1/13/2018 2:45 PM
cool
ゲームボーイ64 1/13/2018 3:00 PM
I'd be interested
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 3:01 PM
In wut?
Video 1/13/2018 3:25 PM
@Deleted User Looks like during the game's development, rather than fighting that smokey motherfucker you had to fight that terrifying thing
divingkxt 1/13/2018 3:28 PM
"257887872 0xF5F0E80 Unix path: /6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/7/>?D496/6/=5=6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6////6/66/66/6/66/66/6/66/8>?D49/66/=5=66/66/6/66/66/6/6/ ... That's an interesting Unix path... "
3:28 PM
Where is that from?
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 3:46 PM
Well heres something. The Miku at Dream-Eating Monochrome Baku is fully modelled in Diva F and Future Tone
3:46 PM
ゲームボーイ64 1/13/2018 3:52 PM
looks weird without any textures
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 4:15 PM
No thats normal
4:15 PM
Thats the actual texture
4:15 PM
@ゲームボーイ64
skeletonhugger 1/13/2018 5:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZuICsZLM9s
Obscure Gamers
Conker: Live & Reloaded Debug Build
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Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 5:43 PM
Oh there is a test sound in Mario Kart Arcade GP DX
5:44 PM
All the ones with SoundTest_Signal have their offset length set to the same sound
5:44 PM
SoundTest1 and 2 have their length disabled
5:44 PM
I think its a test sound that was in Smash 3ds too
5:49 PM
Wait no it isnt
5:49 PM
But i think it was a test sound somewhere
5:50 PM
@Deleted User Can i send it to u and see if u can recognize it?
Deleted User 1/13/2018 5:51 PM
sure
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 5:51 PM
Deleted User 1/13/2018 5:53 PM
it's just a note scale
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 5:53 PM
I thought i heard it somewhere else tho too
Deleted User 1/13/2018 5:54 PM
new to me
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 5:55 PM
Weird
5:55 PM
Thats where the offset lead to tho for all the signal test sounds
5:58 PM
Can anyone else see if its from another game?
ゲームボーイ64 1/13/2018 6:01 PM
Oh
6:01 PM
Ok
Stewie1.0 1/13/2018 6:12 PM
@ゲームボーイ64 Its normal cuz of this
6:12 PM
https://youtu.be/Xa2JHeWrgIk?t=50s
Karin's Channel
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Future Tone - [PV] "Dream-Eating Monochrome Baku" (Romaji/English Subs)
ゲームボーイ64 1/13/2018 6:15 PM
ohhhhhh
Planet of Trash 1/13/2018 9:11 PM
I need someone to fill me in on the technical lingo that goes on in finding unused stuff xDDD
Biscuiteer 1/13/2018 10:30 PM
uh, i think that varies on the platform it's on
10:31 PM
though i imagine tools like disassemblers or debuggers have a lot of overlap there
Revenant 1/14/2018 1:05 AM
https://twitter.com/noobde/status/952375515377217536
Ed Boon (@noobde)
Backing up some files & ran across my original notes for the MK3 "VS Screen" illustrating the big fighter images & "Kombat Kodes". Feels like a million years ago. Actually about 23 years.
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Laenthor 1/14/2018 3:46 AM
https://tcrf.net/Harry_Potter_and_the_Prisoner_of_Azkaban_(Windows)/Unused_Cutscenes I might've made this subpage a bit too convoluted. Can someone tell me if it's okay or if I should clean it up?
Unused Cutscenes
punk7890 1/14/2018 4:13 AM
Seems fine to me
4:14 AM
Explanation is a good thing.
Hallfiry 1/14/2018 9:49 AM
I can't find a demo of Prisoner of Azkaban. Was there one at all? THe other HP games seem to have had one
Deleted User 1/14/2018 9:49 AM
Chamber of Secrets had two I think
9:50 AM
maybe three
9:50 AM
there was one distributed online, AOL?
9:50 AM
and then one included with the DVD
9:50 AM
and then I think one related to Coke.
Hallfiry 1/14/2018 10:00 AM
so far I can only find one demo for hp2 in my catalog: hpcos_demo1.exe 25,128,415 and maybe 2 for hp4 possibly identical: AutoRun.exe 163,291,136 0compressed.zip 127,299,641 and those for hp5, possibly identical: 0compressed.zip 354,633,913 HPOOTP_PC.exe 419,908,680 This demo for quidditch: qwc_demo.exe 265,302,016 (edited)
Deleted User 1/14/2018 10:35 AM
poot
10:35 AM
I didn't know world cup had a demo
10:35 AM
that was a neat game
10:37 AM
10:37 AM
1 is the online demo, 2 is from the DVD
10:37 AM
Coke one is lost? There's an archive in the game specifically called "coke"
10:38 AM
.\textures\BL_CocaCola.utx
Hallfiry 1/14/2018 11:17 AM
now this is strange: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drome_Racers
Drome Racers
Drome Racers is a Lego racing video game developed by Attention to Detail and published by Electronic Arts and Lego Interactive. It was first released in November 2002, for PlayStation 2, Xbox, GameCube, Game Boy Advance and Microsoft Windows. It...
11:17 AM
it says there that the game is called Drome Racers and was released in november or december of 2002
11:18 AM
I've got a nestle promo CD featurung a game called "Lego Racers 2002", seemingly dated to april 2002
Deleted User 1/14/2018 11:18 AM
neat
11:19 AM
it doesn't match this, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Racers_2
Lego Racers 2
Lego Racers 2 is a Lego-themed racing video game developed by Attention to Detail, published by Lego Software and distributed in North America by Electronic Arts. It was first released in September 2001 for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 2 and Ga...
Hallfiry 1/14/2018 11:19 AM
it says it's CD1, but I don't have a CD2 :/
11:19 AM
nah, I played lego racers 2 a lot, lego racers 2002 is a different thing (edited)
Deleted User 1/14/2018 11:19 AM
nice
Hallfiry 1/14/2018 11:21 AM
aha! https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31680
BetaArchive
11:21 AM
in this thread we already had CD2, which is Jungle, and mine is CD1, City
11:22 AM
I even posted there about 2 other cds (now on my desk infront of me, by coincidence) and never got back it it >.< (edited)
Huks 1/14/2018 11:36 AM
I remember installing HP2 and always wondering why there was a brief reference to Coca-Cola that popped up during the installation
11:36 AM
Good to know the reason why
Deleted User 1/14/2018 11:58 AM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wipeout-Pure-0-1-Demo-UCED-00017-PSP-Pre-Production-UMD/152865679184?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D52ba3cb02f1840978f620b8e79b78f14%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D152865679184&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
Wipeout Pure 0.1 Demo UCED-00017 PSP Pre-Production UMD
Title: Wipeout Pure English. This is the earliest build of the game in UMD form I have seen. Product Code: UCED-000017 / 0.1. Creation Date: 16/01/2005. Version: 0.1. | eBay!
GerbilSoft 1/14/2018 12:26 PM
Does anyone here have the final build of The Last Story (JPN, Wii) and can check the build number? (It's in config.ini in the FST root)
Hallfiry 1/14/2018 12:36 PM
Is anyone experienced with Mageslayer (1997)? A few years ago I found a leaked prerelease build of the game, so maybe there's some stuff worth documenting: https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=306575#p306575 I'd usually do it myself, but I'm currently working on too many other projects The download link expired, but I can easily provide the file again
Hallfiry 1/14/2018 12:50 PM
Alright, lego racers 2002 city is up: https://drive.google.com/open?id=19IJ2mDGXmpPOZoU2j6aQVGlbdpVZvF0V
Lego_Racers_2002_CD_1_City.rar
divingkxt 1/14/2018 1:18 PM
Currently focusing on D/Generation...
1:18 PM
But what should the game be named on the wiki?
1:18 PM
Asking mainly because of that / in the game's name.
1:19 PM
See also: the entire .hack series.
divingkxt 1/14/2018 1:30 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?diff=536245&oldid=530943 This list applies to basically everything with a 68k family processor!
Index.php?diff=536245&oldid=530943
GerbilSoft 1/14/2018 1:55 PM
It's specifically S1's error handler but yes
1:55 PM
Not unused, either
LarryLemmy 1/14/2018 2:25 PM
I finally had a look at the Big Rigs Nightride level. It seems it has a sky model and texture but that's it
CheetahPixie 1/14/2018 3:14 PM
@LarryLemmy big rigs?
3:14 PM
is that the game i am guessing it is?
Deleted User 1/14/2018 3:41 PM
@divingkxt make the url D-Generation and then force the title to be proper?
divingkxt 1/14/2018 3:41 PM
I guess.
LarryLemmy 1/14/2018 4:31 PM
Should I add "unused areas" to the Big Rigs infobox even though there's barely any trace of it? (edited)
Revo 1/14/2018 4:57 PM
you guys
4:58 PM
lol, game freak is dumb
4:58 PM
4:58 PM
when you see it
minerobber 1/14/2018 4:58 PM
what's mapped at 00000000?
Revo 1/14/2018 5:01 PM
BIOS
5:01 PM
reading from it uses subbus
5:01 PM
and you get garbage
Deleted User 1/14/2018 5:01 PM
That's kinda hilarious imo, lol
Revo 1/14/2018 5:01 PM
sorry, open bus
5:01 PM
by russian roulette it happens to not cause any issues
5:01 PM
because the garbage is treated as negative
5:02 PM
so it doesnt go over the loop
Meow 1/14/2018 7:05 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/gc-need-for-speed-hot-pursuit-2-restore-some-debug-stuff.23950/ anybody wish to add to the wiki? XD
[GC] Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 restore some debug stuff
About a year ago I noticed NFS HP2 for the GC had some dev files left over, I totally forgot to post about it. It only seem's to be in the PAL/EU disk...
punk7890 1/14/2018 7:10 PM
nice find
7:12 PM
I've only ever played NFSU and NFSU2 for ps2. Spent a lot of time on NFSU2
Meow 1/14/2018 7:16 PM
I released a GC build of NFSU awhile back
punk7890 1/14/2018 7:17 PM
ah nice
7:17 PM
hardly remember that game though.
Meow 1/14/2018 7:18 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/need-for-speed-underground-sep-10-2003-preview-console-26669-010.22693/
GC - Need For Speed: Underground (Sep 10, 2003 Preview Console+ 26669 - 010)
This is a Preview build of Need For Speed Underground for the Nintendo Gamecube. It's menu's are more like the PS2 Demo then anything and has cut...
7:18 PM
If of interest
punk7890 1/14/2018 7:18 PM
Roger Lee x 9999
7:19 PM
looks interesting
Meow 1/14/2018 7:27 PM
yeah it's a weird build sorry was being asked for pics of some hardware lol. it has different menu's and cut modes
Meow 1/14/2018 7:35 PM
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Need_for_Speed:_Underground#GameCube_Prototype_Build
Proto:Need for Speed: Underground
GerbilSoft 1/14/2018 7:35 PM
i take it Roger Lee's important
Meow 1/14/2018 7:35 PM
No clue who he is
7:35 PM
but his name is spammed in the credits lol
GerbilSoft 1/14/2018 7:35 PM
>"Dude, it's a manual tranny."
7:35 PM
take that out of context :V
Meow 1/14/2018 7:35 PM
Stewie1.0 1/14/2018 8:17 PM
I found this in mk8's files
8:17 PM
8:17 PM
Just the Yoshi
Dprotp 1/14/2018 8:25 PM
lewd
punk7890 1/14/2018 8:31 PM
@Deleted User do you know where the cutscene text for Persona 3 is stored? I don't think they are in their own cutscene .PMx files. I could be wrong though
Deleted User 1/14/2018 8:31 PM
uh
8:32 PM
hang on
punk7890 1/14/2018 8:32 PM
I want to grab the jp text for the unused cutscenes
Deleted User 1/14/2018 8:32 PM
\FIELD\SCRIPT ?
8:32 PM
keep in mind, JP text is stored in a weird format
punk7890 1/14/2018 8:33 PM
sounds yucky
Deleted User 1/14/2018 8:33 PM
it is, luckily someone did all the heavy lifting already
punk7890 1/14/2018 8:48 PM
huh interesting, there is a few more unused cutscene text that doesn't actually load the cutscene in game.
8:53 PM
oh right they need PM1,PM2 and PM3 files to load in game
punk7890 1/14/2018 9:14 PM
hm too much work to translate this all, I guess I could just throw it on a tcrf subpage sometime and hope someone wants to translate it all
Deleted User 1/14/2018 9:27 PM
just add a tag
9:27 PM
{{needstranslation|lang=ja}}
Deleted User 1/14/2018 11:33 PM
isnt this the mario64 cactus
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/14/2018 11:33 PM
ja
punk7890 1/14/2018 11:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdKCVk4rpQ
punk7890
X Files Resist or Serve Debug Menu
11:44 PM
Black Ops Entertainment games have nice debug menus
RetroLotti 1/15/2018 1:46 AM
hey @everyone I have a question. I bought a Super Game Boy 2 but I am having trouble getting the SGB2. I have a Super Famicom and was certain that the SGB2 would work out of the box.... As you can imagine it did not... When using the SGB2 in the SFC nothing happens. Absolutely nothing. No signal is detected nothing. BUT then I tried my Action Replay 2 on the SFC with the SGB2 and voilá it booted and also started the (also japanese) Game Boy game. OK without sound and flickering lines on the screen but that confirmed that it is at least working somehow. Now for my question. Did I miss anything? It should work, shouldn't it? Has anybody an idea or a place where I can look for help? Greetings RetroLotti
Revenant 1/15/2018 2:07 AM
could be that the CIC chip on the SGB2 cartridge is not working properly
2:07 AM
when you boot it up with the action replay attached then the SFC is talking to the action replay's CIC chip instead
2:08 AM
(which is the lockout/antipiracy chip on all licensed carts)
2:09 AM
(actually iirc you have to use a second licensed cart with the action replay to bypass the CIC but you get the idea)
Neko May 1/15/2018 2:41 AM
Action Replay didn't have a CIC
2:42 AM
Nintendo was a bit more "careful" with the SNES CIC after the Tengen debacle.
Revenant 1/15/2018 3:27 AM
yeah i forgot it had the passthru slot in it
3:28 AM
but if there was an additional cart there i suspect thats what made the SGB2 cart start working
Neko May 1/15/2018 3:46 AM
Theoretically possible, though that chip shouldn't just fail.
RetroLotti 1/15/2018 5:58 AM
Thanks for you answers. I attached a japanese cart to the passthru slot indeed. If the CIC chip is not working I'd had no chance of getting this fixed or even validated. Best thing to do is to send it back where I bought it I guess.
ƒluƒƒу 1/15/2018 8:27 AM
8:27 AM
huh, this sure is a spambot
Azure 1/15/2018 9:41 AM
what does that kind of spambot even hope to accomplish?
Dezent 1/15/2018 9:42 AM
To annoy the shit outta people
Azure 1/15/2018 9:42 AM
making it so if someone types in this one wiki search bar exactly "how to employ a wordpress cms as a web design platform" then they'll find a certain brand advertised for it?
9:43 AM
the only people who will see it are the ones cleaning it up
9:43 AM
might as well write an actual email spambot and actually reach potential customers
ƒluƒƒу 1/15/2018 9:43 AM
i figure, bombard places with enough of these over and over and this shit'll start seeping into their subconsciouses
9:44 AM
and boom tcrf suddenly migrates to wordpress
9:44 AM
does it make any sense to do so? of course not
9:44 AM
but the psychological warfare has pushed em well past the point of sense
Azure 1/15/2018 9:44 AM
a lot of spam elsewhere makes sense, is the thing
9:44 AM
creating wiki pages on random wikis seems like the absolute worst place to spam though!
Nex 1/15/2018 9:45 AM
Assemblergames has been getting a heavy load of spam the past few weeks
ƒluƒƒу 1/15/2018 9:45 AM
personally i'd consider comment threads on blogs being the worst place
9:46 AM
not sure i can really explain why
9:46 AM
just mild frustration from seeing so damn much of it on blogs i otherwise enjoy
9:46 AM
i guess wiki spam, while unsightly and annoying (especially to those who have to clean it up), is a one-and-done sort of thing
9:47 AM
yet blog comments have this way of accumulating and accumulating and having nothing be done
9:47 AM
idk
Azure 1/15/2018 9:58 AM
yeah, but on blogs, lots of people end up seeing them
9:58 AM
that makes it way more annoying, but more effective too
9:59 AM
I remember seeing a spam blog that was just... numbers
9:59 AM
it had a few thousand posts, most of which were just massive numbers
10:00 AM
and then every once in a while there would be a car sales ad in the middle or something
10:00 AM
the bot internet is a weird place...
10:02 AM
https://i.imgur.com/JNajufh.jpg
10:02 AM
man, Nintendo doesn't make em like they used to!
Δndrew P. 1/15/2018 10:04 AM
Technology nowadays are so prone to be broken tbh
Azure 1/15/2018 10:04 AM
yeah, since it's just so much more complex/compact and so there's a lot more things that can break
10:09 AM
there's also survivorship bias, with the only old technology we talk about nowadays being the durable stuff that survived
10:09 AM
I'm sure there was tons of easily-broken crap back then too
Δndrew P. 1/15/2018 10:13 AM
I mean yeah
FMecha 1/15/2018 10:59 AM
my parents think anything's old and/or unused are broken
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/15/2018 11:08 AM
I found interesting debug menu in Custom Robo. Changes AI parameter. https://tcrf.net/Custom_Robo_(Nintendo_64)#CPU.E5.80.8B.E6.80.A7_.28CPU_personality.29
Custom Robo (Nintendo 64)
11:09 AM
But the same name menu is not working in Custom Robo V2.
Revenant 1/15/2018 11:29 AM
https://twitter.com/a2_4am/status/952940289454477313
4am (@a2_4am)
Mixed-Up Mother Goose has some sectors in common with Leisure Suit Larry. I verified this on two different original disks on real hardware.
ゲームボーイ64 1/15/2018 11:35 AM
lol
Netscape Navigator 1/15/2018 12:10 PM
this goose is indeed mixed up
Revenant 1/15/2018 12:18 PM
leisure suit larry 4: the mixed up mother goose floppies
Deleted User 1/15/2018 12:21 PM
guess they did put the mixed up in mixed up mother goose
old acc! inactive 1/15/2018 3:17 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:NormanOlney72
User:NormanOlney72
3:17 PM
spam
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 3:18 PM
WHY ARE WE GETTING SO MUCH SPAM
Smoke 1/15/2018 3:20 PM
https://tcrf.net/Special:UncategorizedFiles
Special:UncategorizedFiles
old acc! inactive 1/15/2018 3:22 PM
toyota
2
Deleted User 1/15/2018 3:39 PM
anaheim, US isn't a state (edited)
3:39 PM
maybe a town???
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 3:40 PM
how to neutralize dog urine on artificial grass
Deleted User 1/15/2018 3:41 PM
why would you study that of all things
3:41 PM
let your dog outside darnit
3:42 PM
some organism called grass exists you morons
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 3:42 PM
tbh im surprised that npzman hasn't been on the wiki/irc yet
4
3
Nex 1/15/2018 3:45 PM
Maybe he is under a different name (edited)
3:47 PM
Very likley the case actually
cuba200611 1/15/2018 3:47 PM
@Deleted User Yep, that's where Disneyland is located...
3:47 PM
Anaheim, California...
Deleted User 1/15/2018 3:48 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 according to that article in his profile: `Though it may seem counterintuitive to water your dog to prevent urine spots` (edited)
3:48 PM
oh
Smoke 1/15/2018 3:48 PM
boop http://web.archive.org/web/20180115204828/https://tcrf.net/User:NormanOlney72
User:NormanOlney72
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 3:49 PM
Deleted User 1/15/2018 3:49 PM
water your dog
3:49 PM
lmao
Revo 1/15/2018 5:41 PM
`AbilityBattleEffects 00001C80 ✔ sub_80AC2CC 0000160E ✔ ItemBattleEffects 000013B0 ✔ sub_804C29C 000012E2 ✔ SetMoveEffect 0000121E decompiled in pokeemerald sub_803E1B0 00000FBC ✔ sub_8012324 00000C7C decompiled in pokeemerald Task_EvolutionScene 00000BD2 ✔ TurnBasedEffects 00000B70 ✔ Task_TradeEvolutionScene 00000B60 ✔ atk49_moveend 00000AB6 decompiled in pokeemerald StrCpyDecodeBattle 00000A6A ✔ dp01_setattr_by_ch1_for_player_pokemon 000009EE ✔ sub_811EC68 000009EE ✔ sub_8138294 000009EE ✔ unref_sub_81143CC 000009E0 atk23_getexp 000009A0 decompiled in pokeemerald sub_8033E24 0000091C ✔ sub_8038900 0000091C ✔ CalculateBaseDamage 00000916 ✔` i wasnt expecting this much success with matching large functions
5:41 PM
✅ means we have the matching C
punk7890 1/15/2018 6:42 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice find!
LarryLemmy 1/15/2018 7:12 PM
The URL name on that spam dude's profile just makes it funnier
ゲームボーイ64 1/15/2018 7:50 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 you spoke the name of the evil
7:51 PM
now he will create an account
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 7:51 PM
ゲームボーイ64 1/15/2018 7:51 PM
lmao
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/15/2018 8:39 PM
@punk7890 thank you!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 8:43 PM
but when will he start to flood this place with alts again
ゲームボーイ64 1/15/2018 8:45 PM
always and never
8:45 PM
so always
8:45 PM
He is relentless
Deleted User 1/15/2018 8:56 PM
relentful at never
8:57 PM
Oops, wrong meme in the wrong community
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 8:58 PM
ゲームボーイ64 1/15/2018 9:02 PM
tomorrow I bet "sfman" will strike back
9:02 PM
No money
9:02 PM
Just throwing my thoughts out there
Smoke 1/15/2018 9:11 PM
old acc! inactive 1/15/2018 10:34 PM
does this really belong on the triforce page?
10:34 PM
i mean 1. its a jpg 2. its not of the actual system
Δndrew P. 1/15/2018 10:41 PM
It's an arcade board silly (edited)
10:42 PM
wait weong server (edited)
divingkxt 1/15/2018 10:52 PM
@old acc! inactive God no.
10:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TnrJvgBl.jpg
10:53 PM
It's a screenshot of the boot screen.
10:53 PM
A very bad screenshot though.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 11:01 PM
is it as bad as this screenshot https://tcrf.net/File:Hugging_the_Teddy_Bear.png
File:Hugging the Teddy Bear.png
divingkxt 1/15/2018 11:03 PM
Not quite.
11:03 PM
At least I can make out something.
11:03 PM
That's like bottom of the barrel shit there.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 11:05 PM
divingkxt 1/15/2018 11:08 PM
That's second place.
11:08 PM
In terms of shit quality.
ƒluƒƒу 1/15/2018 11:21 PM
have to admit as bad as these are, they don't hold a candle to some of the uploads i've seen on other wikis
11:22 PM
11:22 PM
this one is simultaneously hilarious and horrifying
cuba200611 1/15/2018 11:22 PM
Where is this end screen from?
ƒluƒƒу 1/15/2018 11:22 PM
fire emblem: genealogy of the holy war
11:23 PM
from wikia's fire emblem dealie
11:23 PM
which itself is very bad as a whole
11:24 PM
here's another one of their dodgy uploads for the road https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/0/0a/Patty_thief.jpg/revision/20120702020440
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 11:24 PM
ƒluƒƒу 1/15/2018 11:25 PM
the wikia is also very good at taking my card game translation work and butchering it within an inch of its life in the name of being "literal" but that's another story entirely
11:26 PM
and i feel like i shouldn't grouch about that around here
11:26 PM
....not that it stopped me bringing it up
11:26 PM
oops
11:26 PM
anyway as you were
cuba200611 1/15/2018 11:29 PM
Speaking of end screens: https://i.imgur.com/lyDmp4Z.png
ƒluƒƒу 1/15/2018 11:30 PM
what's this one from, may i ask?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/15/2018 11:32 PM
looks like something christmas-themed
cuba200611 1/15/2018 11:55 PM
It's from various pubic domain cartoons...
ƒluƒƒу 1/15/2018 11:55 PM
o ok
cuba200611 1/15/2018 11:55 PM
Originally slapped on to a colored print of a Betty Boop cartoon, IIRC...
FMecha 1/16/2018 10:44 AM
[re Triforce] Maybe someone can upload the Triforce startup screen as the "title screen" if Triforce emulation works
alan 1/16/2018 11:03 AM
so that super mario odyssey rom got dumped
11:04 AM
but woop ee doo its xci and theres little to no methods to open it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/16/2018 11:20 AM
11:21 AM
Is there a discussion thread or something? @alan
alan 1/16/2018 11:22 AM
not any that i know of currently
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/16/2018 11:22 AM
alan 1/16/2018 11:22 AM
there is a so called "xci reader" which does nothing but grab info from a database
11:22 AM
but as far as actually exploring the files i cant find any tools
11:22 AM
(bgm is on hcs64 tho if youre into that)
Hiccup 1/16/2018 11:26 AM
switch carts dumps are encrypted. and these xci files are cart dumps by the sound of it.
11:30 AM
He seemed to suggest SciresM was helping. I'm pretty sure RTB isn't familiar with encryption.
alan 1/16/2018 11:32 AM
im sure RTB said he has only the models for now
Hiccup 1/16/2018 11:34 AM
pretty sure it is the latter, if I recall what RTB has said to me previously (when I asked during a similar situation with the Wii U)
11:34 AM
HCS64's music rip archive has odyssey's raw sound files. but the board is down, so I can't see if there is any explanation of their origin. sound filename search doesn't bring up anything. (edited)
11:35 AM
@Deleted User (he wanted to know about XCI, possibly because of RTB's tweets) (edited)
MusashiAA 1/16/2018 12:00 PM
Wait, the board is down?
12:00 PM
OH NO
12:00 PM
Wait no its not
12:01 PM
Well damn
12:02 PM
That's the guy who's handling the archive
12:02 PM
So I guess they were in possesion of the extracted files, and got rid of them as soon as they got what they wanted
12:03 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/16/2018 12:04 PM
MusashiAA 1/16/2018 12:04 PM
When you're managing a database of EVERY AUDIO RIP OF WAY TOO MANY GAMES
12:05 PM
playing it safe has to be the same as breathing
12:05 PM
One of the randomized taglines of the board is "too obscure to be secure?"
12:05 PM
I pray the day the evildoers get to the archive does not come
12:06 PM
but yeah, someone already deciphered SMO
12:07 PM
It's not a coincidence the SMO rip on HCS was around the same time as this was uploaded https://www.spriters-resource.com/nintendo_switch/supermarioodyssey/sheet/102437/
12:08 PM
And I do recall someone tweeting a pic of an early Luigi model
12:08 PM
So there's models as well
Andreelikes 1/16/2018 12:44 PM
Hello.
Stewie1.0 1/16/2018 12:46 PM
Would this count to put on tcrf? Its unseen inside a house
12:47 PM
Nex 1/16/2018 12:50 PM
I would say yes
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/16/2018 1:05 PM
what game is that?
Stewie1.0 1/16/2018 1:21 PM
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Future Tone
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/16/2018 1:59 PM
https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_Odyssey well that was quick
Super Mario Odyssey
2:00 PM
I hope someone dumps RACPS4 next
LarryLemmy 1/16/2018 2:02 PM
Does anyone else ever wonder if game devs look on tcrf and say to themselves "oh yeah I remember inserting that"?
2:02 PM
Or does anyone know if it has actually happened?
Halfbit 1/16/2018 2:08 PM
I wonder that too
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/16/2018 2:10 PM
Well, one of the developers for the PS2 Ratchet and clank games said this in response to me and a few others digging through the game :P
2:13 PM
I'm honestly surprised on how he still remembers so much after 14 years
GerbilSoft 1/16/2018 2:13 PM
well, that is technically correct
2:13 PM
the best kind of correct
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/16/2018 2:13 PM
^
2:14 PM
he also explained the origin of this image I found in Deadlocked ->
2:18 PM
the asset manager for the game was a guy named Carl Grande; He was fond of making humorous assets to serve as placeholders during development
arthur! 1/16/2018 2:18 PM
awesome
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/16/2018 2:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/fLEAdQn.png here's another one of his works (and the guy in the photo is Grande himself)
Meow 1/16/2018 3:04 PM
there's only 1 PS4 beta dumped (that I know of?) and 2 xbox one beta's.
𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/16/2018 3:15 PM
Since the BFG edition of Doom 3 replaces the flashlight with one monted on yourself with limited battery, Would the flashlight in that version count as unused content?
Borman 1/16/2018 4:07 PM
Dumping Xbox One betas is easy, unpacking them is a whole different issue
Deleted User 1/16/2018 4:52 PM
What would you guys suggest doing for getting Article Images (the images on the right, above dev information and such)? I'm trying to fill the artwork for Super Mario Odyssey, and having a few troubles sourcing it.
4:58 PM
And on that note, what counts as a "Minor Edit"?
LarryLemmy 1/16/2018 5:03 PM
I just mark things as minor edits if I'm correcting typos, adding a few words etc.
Smoke 1/16/2018 5:04 PM
I thought it was automatic
BatElite 1/16/2018 5:04 PM
I've marked slightly broader edits as minor before, but that's a good question actually.
Deleted User 1/16/2018 5:17 PM
Cheers
LarryLemmy 1/16/2018 5:53 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:EpifaniaArcher
User:EpifaniaArcher
GerbilSoft 1/16/2018 5:54 PM
mmm spam
LarryLemmy 1/16/2018 5:54 PM
mｙ
Smoke 1/16/2018 6:42 PM
https://tcrf.net/4_Seasons_Wine_Coupons
4 Seasons Wine Coupons
6:42 PM
They forgot the bob
punk7890 1/16/2018 7:08 PM
@Deleted User Saw your tweet. Good article you put up. I'd probably do something like how to find debug menus myself but might be a bit too technical.
Deleted User 1/16/2018 7:26 PM
Thanks!
7:26 PM
Yeah most of what I do doesn't get overly technical, so it's still pretty accessible.
punk7890 1/16/2018 7:44 PM
If people wanted I could probably try to make something like that for simple debug menus and walk them through it. Most aren't too complex but still would need to know how to use a debugger and some minor MIPS stuff if necessary.
7:45 PM
some simple ones are just forcing your cursor somewhere its not suppose to go, which is really simple.
Deleted User 1/16/2018 7:52 PM
yeah, that sounds neat.
Deleted User 1/16/2018 8:03 PM
@punk7890 speaking of MIPS https://twitter.com/DeepGameRes/status/953393069013000192 (edited)
DeepGameResearch (@DeepGameRes)
Anyone out there familiar with MIPS? I'm learning it from scratch right now and have a few questions.
punk7890 1/16/2018 8:29 PM
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𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/16/2018 9:04 PM
Is there any difference between un-used and un-implemented?
funny daytin deleted oppa gangn 1/16/2018 9:08 PM
what up with the Odyssey page files not showing up im new here
Deleted User 1/16/2018 9:13 PM
refresh page
9:13 PM
I was working on it
ゲームボーイ64 1/16/2018 9:16 PM
I'm familiar with mips, but not programming for it.
divingkxt 1/17/2018 12:29 AM
@𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan - Unimplemented means no code for something was ever made, while unused can encompass both unimplemented and implemented materials.
divingkxt 1/17/2018 12:42 AM
In TCRF's case, unused stuff mainly is unused data in the ROM.
Neko May 1/17/2018 1:58 AM
Stuff often ends up unused because what they were meant to be used with was unimplemented.
MysticSageJosh 1/17/2018 2:10 AM
oh lawd,tcrf went down (edited)
Neko May 1/17/2018 2:32 AM
Again?
MysticSageJosh 1/17/2018 4:41 AM
it's back up (edited)
Xkeeper 1/17/2018 5:11 AM
emerg maint from linode
Laenthor 1/17/2018 9:16 AM
I might start working on shovel knight. Seems like there's no page yet
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GerbilSoft 1/17/2018 10:47 AM
discord is taking a shit
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CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/17/2018 10:57 AM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/17/2018 11:10 AM
Luminar 1/17/2018 11:14 AM
creative
MusashiAA 1/17/2018 11:24 AM
that cactus really
11:24 AM
F
oonder 1/17/2018 11:25 AM
my phone died when I joined
11:30 AM
also hi
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/17/2018 11:46 AM
sup
oonder 1/17/2018 11:49 AM
the beautiful @CELL Broadband Engine 2006 invited me
Dezent 1/17/2018 11:53 AM
blop
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/17/2018 12:18 PM
Laenthor 1/17/2018 1:38 PM
actually taking the time to look at HP1's unused animations, it seems like the night duel chapter from the book was going to be included in the game. Draco has a spellcasting animation, plus a knockdown and him talking above something, which resembles how the sequence plays out in the late 2003 6th gen console port.
1:38 PM
I'm noting these down to make a big video later if I don't get too lazy
Laenthor 1/17/2018 2:14 PM
Are these things used in HP1? They're definitely in HP2 but I think HP1 only has the ones with the plants sticking out.
2:15 PM
wuh nevermind the base and the head are separate models despite being only 1 object at all times.
Laenthor 1/17/2018 3:47 PM
The model is used but I have never seen this texture
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CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/17/2018 4:08 PM
LarryLemmy 1/17/2018 5:04 PM
May I offer you a nice egg?
Deleted User 1/17/2018 6:56 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 that isnt a discount tcrf logo until it's got the cheaply rendered <= kektus
oonder 1/17/2018 7:24 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/17/2018 7:27 PM
𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐌 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐈𝐍 Fan 1/17/2018 8:06 PM
Does TCRF cover Stuff that WAS at some point in the game but no longer is? I.e Removed stuff?
Smoke 1/17/2018 8:07 PM
Yes, I assume (edited)
8:09 PM
https://tcrf.net/Roblox_(Windows,_Mac_OS_X)/Removed_Content
Removed Content
Deleted User 1/17/2018 8:22 PM
oof
8:22 PM
that's a good article
divingkxt 1/17/2018 8:46 PM
IjiMendeleev: Yes.
8:46 PM
See also - Cuphead
divingkxt 1/17/2018 8:56 PM
https://twitter.com/Samb_88/status/952612957296496640
Samb (@Samb_88)
Hm.. Im ersten Kitchen Level existiert eine inaktive schlafende BlobCat... Gut, dass ich gerade gezwungen werde aufzuräumen.. Der schöne Speicherplatz!!!
8:56 PM
Oh, and don't forget Minecraft.
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:10 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152871134421
Medievil Resurrection 0.63 Promo UCET-00002 PSP Pre-Production UMD Rare
Title: Medievil Resurrection. Product Code: UCET-00002 / 0.63. Version: 0.63. | eBay!
6:10 AM
A different build to the one that was shared on Obscuregamers
Meow 1/18/2018 6:21 AM
@Deleted User there's also another on ebay (slightly later then this)
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:22 AM
If it's the uces serial one it's final
Meow 1/18/2018 6:22 AM
ah
6:22 AM
nvm
Nex 1/18/2018 6:22 AM
Meow 1/18/2018 6:22 AM
I got 4 today btw for £27, few copy's about but they're undumped
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:23 AM
4 what?..
Nex 1/18/2018 6:23 AM
Umds I guess?
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:23 AM
If it's the dustycartridge eBay lot theyre all final.
Meow 1/18/2018 6:23 AM
pre-productions
6:23 AM
Nope, one seems to be an early build like 2/3 months before retail
6:24 AM
version 0.04 one was
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:24 AM
Not football manager haha
6:26 AM
My bad formula one
6:26 AM
?
Meow 1/18/2018 6:27 AM
Formula One 2006 > month before retail. Ape Academy 2 > 2 months before retail. World Rally Championship > 3 months before retail. Fired Up > 2 months. but yeah
6:27 AM
I took the risk, I can resell the rest at £3/5 a copy so not bothered there
6:27 AM
all common but undumped it seems
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:27 AM
It's a good price..
6:28 AM
Well... uces - retail
Meow 1/18/2018 6:28 AM
I knocked him down to £24 + £3 postage
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:28 AM
You can check the data against redump.org
Meow 1/18/2018 6:28 AM
yeah I gotta beg my sister for my psp back first heading over today so gonna try
6:29 AM
If these are final, I'll just keep the pre-release and sell promo's.
6:29 AM
I got a NFS promo and Sonic one here to sell anyway
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:29 AM
6:29 AM
I'd been low balling him for weeks
Meow 1/18/2018 6:29 AM
lmfao
6:29 AM
I got him at £24. should have tried 20 seeing your offer
6:30 AM
I mean £2.70 a copy isn't bad in my eyes.
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:30 AM
Uhuh..
Meow 1/18/2018 6:31 AM
Would you pay £32 for 4 promo items only given to devs?
6:31 AM
unrelated
6:32 AM
only 4 seen so far too
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:33 AM
Nope
6:34 AM
I'm trying to get out not get deeper in
Meow 1/18/2018 6:35 AM
I'm fucked so doesn't matter.
6:35 AM
reminds me I got another dev kit coming tomorrow, £20 for a PS3 DECR 1000A loaded with builds
6:40 AM
Btw, any damage where you are @Deleted User ? houses behind me had the tiles ripped off
Deleted User 1/18/2018 6:45 AM
No I'm south not too bad
6:50 AM
Sorry to hear damage
6:51 AM
Nice for the kit
LinkingHeartZ 1/18/2018 10:31 AM
okay, hello there everyone, I'm new here. so, I wanted to ask for help with uploading the title screen for Life is Strange: Before the Storm. it gives me the message shown below, and I was wondering if it means the image would have to be ripped straight from the game or something (edited)
10:31 AM
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 10:35 AM
the file you're uploading is a JPEG
10:35 AM
but you have a .png extension
10:35 AM
how'd you take the screenshot?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/18/2018 10:38 AM
may be windows snip tool
10:38 AM
if you type in .png but the file type is set to jpg, itll go wrong
Nex 1/18/2018 11:03 AM
my teacher always tells us to save pictues as .jpg because she says thats the best
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CheetahPixie 1/18/2018 11:09 AM
someone needs to correct her
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/18/2018 11:12 AM
Sneaker 1/18/2018 11:29 AM
lol another person mixing up jpg with png
11:30 AM
they share letters therefore
Meow 1/18/2018 11:33 AM
@Deleted User a psp slim is good for dumping umd’s right?
Nex 1/18/2018 11:34 AM
iterally any psp that has cfw @Meow
Meow 1/18/2018 11:35 AM
Ok good found my psp slim at mums just no charger lol
Deleted User 1/18/2018 12:26 PM
png ftw
Dezent 1/18/2018 12:27 PM
Uncompressed BMP best one
12:27 PM
/sarcasm
Revo 1/18/2018 12:27 PM
hey guys, you wanna see dumb GF code
12:27 PM
`u8 TranslateWeatherNum(u8 weather) { switch (weather) { case 0: return 0; case 1: return 1; case 2: return 2; case 3: return 3; case 4: return 4; case 5: return 5; case 6: return 6; case 7: return 7; case 8: return 8; case 9: return 9; case 10: return 10; case 11: return 11; case 12: return 12; case 13: return 13; case 14: return 14; case 20: return sWeatherCycle1[gSaveBlock1.filler_2F]; case 21: return sWeatherCycle2[gSaveBlock1.filler_2F]; default: return 0; } }`
12:27 PM
^ no, optimizing that wont match
12:27 PM
so rip case 0 ... 14: return weather
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:30 PM
bad use of a jump table
12:30 PM
probably takes up more ROM than a few comparisons
Revo 1/18/2018 12:31 PM
it means someone really did write that
12:31 PM
compiler isnt smart enough to turn it into a jump table with case 0 ... 14
12:32 PM
it uses comparisons and does the rest as stacked comparisons
12:32 PM
if this were newer gcc hell yeah it'd still use a jump table
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:32 PM
oh wait
12:32 PM
instead of a jump table, which is still a bit inefficient
Revo 1/18/2018 12:32 PM
this is gcc 2.95 we're talking about
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:32 PM
it actually has 16 or so if statements?
Revo 1/18/2018 12:32 PM
`TranslateWeatherNum: push {lr} lsl r0, r0, #0x18 lsr r0, r0, #0x18 cmp r0, #0x15 bhi .L850 @cond_branch lsl r0, r0, #0x2 ldr r1, .L854 add r0, r0, r1 ldr r0, [r0] mov pc, r0 .L855: .align 2, 0 .L854: .word .L851 .align 2, 0 .align 2, 0 .L851: .word .L850 .word .L834 .word .L835 .word .L836 .word .L837 .word .L838 .word .L839 .word .L840 .word .L841 .word .L842 .word .L843 .word .L844 .word .L845 .word .L846 .word .L847 .word .L850 .word .L850 .word .L850 .word .L850 .word .L850 .word .L848 .word .L849 ...`
12:33 PM
thats the matching asm
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:33 PM
ok so that is a jump table then
Revo 1/18/2018 12:33 PM
`.L834: mov r0, #0x1 b .L852 .L835: mov r0, #0x2 b .L852 .L836: mov r0, #0x3 b .L852 .L837: mov r0, #0x4 b .L852 .L838: mov r0, #0x5 b .L852 .L839: mov r0, #0x6 b .L852 .L840: mov r0, #0x7 b .L852 .L841: mov r0, #0x8 b .L852 .L842: mov r0, #0x9 b .L852 .L843: mov r0, #0xa b .L852 .L844: mov r0, #0xb b .L852 .L845: mov r0, #0xc b .L852 .L846: mov r0, #0xd b .L852 .L847: mov r0, #0xe b .L852 .L848: ldr r1, .L856 b .L853 .L857: .align 2, 0 .L856: .word sWeatherCycle1 .L849: ldr r1, .L858 .L853: ldr r0, .L858+0x4 add r0, r0, #0x2f ldrb r0, [r0] add r0, r0, r1 ldrb r0, [r0] b .L852 .L859: .align 2, 0 .L858: .word sWeatherCycle2 .word gSaveBlock1 .L850: mov r0, #0x0 .L852: pop {r1} bx r1 .Lfe101: .size TranslateWeatherNum,.Lfe101-TranslateWeatherNum .align 2, 0`
12:33 PM
etc
12:33 PM
jump table trash
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:33 PM
let's see how gcc-7.2 compiles it
Revo 1/18/2018 12:34 PM
i mean, game freak was a team of programmers, and to be honest, we've seen a lot of average C, some good C
12:34 PM
and some really bad C
12:34 PM
different programmer skills and experience
12:34 PM
tbh it may have been a preprocessor macro and they didnt write that literal switch
12:34 PM
someone not knowing about gcc extension `...`
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:35 PM
hm
12:35 PM
gcc actually does something interesting, and clang is a bit similar
Revo 1/18/2018 12:35 PM
gcc 2.95 is the matching compiler for gba sdk games, btw
12:36 PM
90% of compiled games use it
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:36 PM
..
12:36 PM
MSVC 2017 fails hard and generates the same code as gcc-2.95
Revo 1/18/2018 12:36 PM
because the gba sdk included it
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:36 PM
https://godbolt.org/g/rE1EQ3
12:36 PM
`TranslateWeatherNum(unsigned char): mov eax, DWORD PTR [esp+4] cmp al, 21 ja .L20 movzx edx, al jmp [DWORD PTR .L4[0+edx*4]]` (edited)
Revo 1/18/2018 12:36 PM
sometimes we really do see programmers taking advantage of a lot of tricks for speed: in Emerald, there were several known loops that were unrolled into manual loops
12:37 PM
most likely for speed
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:37 PM
the jump table entries for 0-14 all have a `rep ret`
12:37 PM
(that has some prefetch hint, i forget what it does)
12:37 PM
but before the jump table instruction, it copies the input value to eax (return value)
12:37 PM
so in the common case, it's already done
12:39 PM
both icc and msvc don't do that
12:39 PM
gcc and clang both have that optimization
12:40 PM
zapcc (not sure what this is) doesn't use a jump table, but it does optimize the < 15 case
Revo 1/18/2018 12:40 PM
to be it feels like Game Freak knew as of the Pokemon AGB project that they would be switching languages, and the people writing tools in C for gens 1 and 2 may have been helping the other programmers learn the language during pre-development, because it feels like half of the code was written by newbies
12:41 PM
which makes sense, because it was the first game in C they ever wrote
12:41 PM
being Ruby/Sapphire
12:41 PM
and later games like FR/LG and Emerald refactor a shitload of code
12:41 PM
most likely because they realized it was shit
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:41 PM
..huh. gcc-4.4.7 has the same issue as 2.95 does
12:41 PM
lemme see which version fixed that
12:42 PM
gcc6 apparently
Revo 1/18/2018 12:42 PM
technically speaking, we're only matching the code their preprocessor spat out, and not what was originally written, since we lose any ifdefs or comments or labels
12:42 PM
12:42 PM
for example, there's a ton of strange functions which need strange things to match without hacks
12:43 PM
one I recently fixed involves an empty do while 0 loop
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:43 PM
...that should just optimize out
Revo 1/18/2018 12:43 PM
`static void BuyMenuDrawGraphics(void) { ClearVideoCallbacks(); ScanlineEffect_Stop(); REG_BG1HOFS = 0; REG_BG1VOFS = 0; REG_BG2HOFS = 0; REG_BG2VOFS = 0; REG_BG3HOFS = 0; REG_BG3VOFS = 0; gPaletteFade.bufferTransferDisabled = 1; /* THEORY: This seemingly useless loop is required in order to match this function without hacks. The reason is because it alters the 0 optimization of a later assignment into using 2 different 0s instead of the same register. It is speculated that at some point Game Freak insert an artificial breakpoint here in order to look at the contents of OAM before it is cleared, possibly because a programmer made a mistake in shop.c which corrupted its contents. There may have been a macro here which at one point idled on the while(1) but was changed to 0 for release due to a define somewhere. A while(0) also matches, but it is more correct to use do {} while(0) as it was a fix to prevent compiler warnings on older compilers. */ do {} while(0); DmaFill32Defvars(3, 0, (void*)OAM, OAM_SIZE); LZDecompressVram(gBuyMenuFrame_Gfx, (void*)(VRAM + 0x7C00)); LZDecompressWram(gBuyMenuFrame_Tilemap, ewram18000_2); LoadCompressedPalette(gMenuMoneyPal, 0xC0, sizeof(gMenuMoneyPal)); FreeAllSpritePalettes(); ...`
12:43 PM
it does, but by the time it is optimized out, it already jossled some registers
12:43 PM
the registers i needed for everything to match without hacks
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:43 PM
oh, it causes register allocation shenanigans
Revo 1/18/2018 12:43 PM
98% of the time its removed from functions without even changing registers
12:44 PM
buuuuuut here its actually needed
12:44 PM
12:44 PM
see what it does is mess up the 0 allocation
12:44 PM
later code:
12:44 PM
`gMartInfo.cursor = 0; gMartInfo.choicesAbove = 0;`
12:45 PM
`bl ResetTasks ldr r4, .L83+0x24 add r0, r4, #0 bl Text_LoadWindowTemplate add r0, r4, #0 bl InitMenuWindow bl Shop_DrawViewport ldr r0, .L83+0x28 strb r6, [r0, #0x9] strb r5, [r0, #0xb] ...`
12:45 PM
the code is `strb r6, [r0, #0x9] strb r5, [r0, #0xb]`
12:45 PM
... but r6 and r5 both have 0s in them
12:45 PM
the issue i was having was the compiler just kept always using r5
12:46 PM
the do {} while(0) messed up gcc trying to reuse the 0s from the beginning of the function
12:46 PM
something with delayed reuse
12:49 PM
i mean, there's equally weird functions that needed strange C to match
12:49 PM
one example is `ItemStorage_DoItemSwap`
12:49 PM
here's what happened:
12:49 PM
in the original code's ending assembly
12:49 PM
`... mov r2, #0x93 lsl r2, r2, #0x3 add r1, r1, r2 ldrh r0, [r1] bl ItemStorage_PrintItemPcResponse .L248: mov r0, #0x10 ldrsh r1, [r4, r0] mov r2, #0x2 ldrsh r0, [r4, r2] sub r0, r1, r0 .L246: pop {r4, r5} pop {r0} bx r0`
12:50 PM
`.L248: mov r0, #0x10 ldrsh r1, [r4, r0] mov r2, #0x2 ldrsh r0, [r4, r2] sub r0, r1, r0`
12:50 PM
thats right, it left dead code in the ROM
12:50 PM
because bx r0 wont ever return that r0 result
12:51 PM
r1 and r0 before the dub are gTasks[taskId].data[8] and data[1] respectively
12:51 PM
which i used defines for
12:51 PM
i did get that code to appear, but it required weirdness
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 12:51 PM
derp
Revo 1/18/2018 12:51 PM
`static void ItemStorage_DoItemSwap(u8 taskId, bool8 switchModeDisabled) { s16 *data = TASK.data; u8 trueIndex = ITEMS_ABOVE_TOP + PAGE_INDEX; SWITCH_MODE_ACTIVE = FALSE; if((u8)NUM_ITEMS > trueIndex && (u8)SWAP_ITEM_INDEX != trueIndex && switchModeDisabled == FALSE) { struct ItemSlot itemSlot = gSaveBlock1.pcItems[SWAP_ITEM_INDEX]; // backup the itemSlot before swapping the two. gSaveBlock1.pcItems[SWAP_ITEM_INDEX] = gSaveBlock1.pcItems[trueIndex]; gSaveBlock1.pcItems[trueIndex] = itemSlot; return; } else if(trueIndex == NUM_ITEMS) { ItemStorage_PrintItemPcResponse(ITEMPC_GO_BACK_TO_PREV); } else { ItemStorage_PrintItemPcResponse(gSaveBlock1.pcItems[trueIndex].itemId); } /* THEORY: This check produces essentially dead code, but it might have been working in an earlier build in which case it allows a programmer to easily duplicate items without the use of a debug menu. This gets the page index of the swap index for some reason. It is currently unknown what it would have been used for, but perhaps it was used to increase the quantity of the item without a debug menu. With the removal of a lot of the debug menus close to release, a programmer may have added this to help test things with a low key (such as planting a lot of duplicated berries, which requires this lazy "cheat") without bringing the relevent debug menus back. The commented out line is intentionally left in below to show what it may have looked like. */ if(SWAP_ITEM_INDEX - ITEMS_ABOVE_TOP <= 0) { // this check is arbitrary and used to generate the correct assembly using the subtraction, which is what matters. the 0 check doesn't. //gSaveBlock1.pcItems[SWAP_ITEM_INDEX].quantity += 100; gSaveBlock1.pcItems[SWAP_ITEM_INDEX].quantity += 0; // do not enforce item cap. } }`
12:51 PM
a necessary += 0
12:51 PM
theory is that a programmer forgot ifdef DEBUG or the 0 was the debug define
12:52 PM
thinking it being 0 means it would be entirely removed
12:52 PM
(spoiler alert: it wasnt)
12:52 PM
the += 0 trips gcc's optimization up because it only removes that but not the actual subtraction
12:52 PM
which makes it match
12:53 PM
it can be itemId or quantity += 0, both match, and the comparison itself doesnt matter
12:55 PM
more weirdness, i normally didnt thing `{}` did anything, but in some rare cases its needed to match the code
12:55 PM
`u8 GetEggMoves(struct Pokemon *pokemon, u16 *eggMoves) { u16 eggMoveIdx; u16 numEggMoves; u16 species; u16 i; numEggMoves = 0; eggMoveIdx = 0; species = GetMonData(pokemon, MON_DATA_SPECIES); for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_COUNT(gEggMoves) - 1; i++) { if (gEggMoves[i] == species + EGG_MOVES_SPECIES_OFFSET) { eggMoveIdx = i + 1; break; } } for (i = 0; i < 10; i++) { if (gEggMoves[eggMoveIdx + i] > EGG_MOVES_SPECIES_OFFSET) { // TODO: the curly braces around this if statement are required for a matching build. break; } eggMoves[i] = gEggMoves[eggMoveIdx + i]; numEggMoves++; } return numEggMoves; }`
Deleted User 1/18/2018 12:55 PM
Anyone ready for yuzu?
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 1:03 PM
https://usb-ids.gowdy.us/read/UD/057e huh.
1:03 PM
they list wii remote, joycon L, and joycon R here
1:04 PM
those aren't technically USB devices - they're bluetooth
1:05 PM
unless for some reason bluetooth reuses USB IDs for HID devices
Revenant 1/18/2018 1:06 PM
https://twitter.com/warrenmarshallb/status/954037278778814464
Warren Marshall (@warrenmarshallb)
@kinsie @TheTrashbang Gears of War anecdote ... we noticed a level was running slowly and after digging in to find out why, it was discovered someone had taken an entire train engine mesh and embedded it almost entirely in the wall because they liked the light on the front and want to use it.
Deleted User 1/18/2018 1:47 PM
@GerbilSoft strange
1:48 PM
well i know you can connect them to computers
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 1:48 PM
using bluetooth, yes (edited)
Deleted User 1/18/2018 2:13 PM
im bored so im going to make a bootloader
CheetahPixie 1/18/2018 2:13 PM
good
Laenthor 1/18/2018 2:22 PM
Anyone can try to read what is written on this bottle?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/18/2018 2:24 PM
Looks like something Baby
~sD 1/18/2018 2:25 PM
The charging grip is detected by usb, maybe that is why the joycons have IDs (edited)
Laenthor 1/18/2018 2:25 PM
Something like that, however I can't read the first word
2:25 PM
And the thing in the bottle is flobberworm mucus, so the label isn't related (not that you could read it in-game)
GerbilSoft 1/18/2018 2:28 PM
iirc the joycons don't show up as individual devices when using the charging grip
Halfbit 1/18/2018 2:28 PM
Is there a way to view the source code of a ROM?
Revo 1/18/2018 2:29 PM
split dissassembly or decompilation projects like pokeruby @Halfbit (edited)
Laenthor 1/18/2018 2:29 PM
For unreal I use UTPT, but it's not the most reliable software I've seen XD
Revo 1/18/2018 2:30 PM
decomp is rarer but not unheard of: see projects like OpenRCT2
Halfbit 1/18/2018 2:31 PM
You always hear about how game devs lose the source code for their games, but could they theoretically download a ROM from the internet, and decompile it to recover the code?
Revo 1/18/2018 2:31 PM
it does happen actually
2:31 PM
its rare though
2:32 PM
and for games that were written in asm you just have to dissassemble it
2:32 PM
decomp takes a ton of time and money (but mostly time)
CheetahPixie 1/18/2018 2:32 PM
Is anyone interested in a collection of games and versions present on the interactive multi game demo discs on the Gamecube?
Revo 1/18/2018 2:32 PM
and for 90% of cases you cant match the original compiled code
2:32 PM
(but in pokeruby's case, thats exactly what we're doing, since the game was compiled with gcc 2.95) (edited)
Halfbit 1/18/2018 2:33 PM
Take an NES, SNES, GB game, etc.
Revo 1/18/2018 2:33 PM
most of those were handwritten assembly
2:33 PM
compiled code was not good enough to get acceptable code
2:33 PM
i mean some people still did it, but it was not a good idea at the time
Halfbit 1/18/2018 2:36 PM
What about a GBA game like MMBN?
2:37 PM
Or any non-Pokemon game on GBA? (edited)
danke 1/18/2018 2:38 PM
Looks like "dragon baby" @Laenthor
Laenthor 1/18/2018 2:38 PM
Ah that might be it
2:39 PM
All meshes using the bottle model as a base have the same texture. I like it when they put something vague instead of a really-low res simili-writing
Revo 1/18/2018 2:39 PM
MMBN appears to have been written in assembly
2:39 PM
we looked at it before
2:39 PM
the code generated was not possible for gcc 2.95, because it uses instructions that the compiler does not ever have a table for generating
2:39 PM
also, it uses r5/r10 as constants throughout all code
Halfbit 1/18/2018 2:40 PM
Interesting
Trit 1/18/2018 2:43 PM
Yeah it's dragon baby @Laenthor
Laenthor 1/18/2018 2:44 PM
Nice, I'll note that on the page soon. I also found the old hud in some Old_textures archive
Revo 1/18/2018 2:44 PM
however quite a number of other games look decompilable using the GBA agbcc setup
2:44 PM
for example, Fire Emblem 7 and 8
2:45 PM
Mario & Donkey Kong also appears to use agbcc (gcc 2.95)
2:45 PM
i think both Metroid games too, but dont hold me to that
Trit 1/18/2018 2:45 PM
You can include fire emblem 6 with 7 and 8
2:45 PM
All 3 use same engine
Revo 1/18/2018 2:45 PM
also: Sonic The Hedgehog GBA (the bad one) is decompilable
2:45 PM
also, Kingdom Hearts GBA (Chain of Memories)
Trit 1/18/2018 2:46 PM
Final fantasy 6 gba?
Revo 1/18/2018 2:46 PM
havent checked.
Trit 1/18/2018 2:46 PM
I would think that one would work
Revo 1/18/2018 2:46 PM
ill check to see if libc memcpy is present, at least
Trit 1/18/2018 2:47 PM
Advance wars probably works as it was a rip off fire emblem engine
Revo 1/18/2018 2:47 PM
true
2:48 PM
i bet i could download the GBA rom library and run a hex compare script to detect the common memcpy signature
2:48 PM
and report back the list of games which link it
Trit 1/18/2018 2:49 PM
I saw somewhere a dump of hundreds of nes/snes roms that had some prototypes in it. Forget where it was. But it was like 400mb folder that's a huge amount of roms for that system
Revo 1/18/2018 2:50 PM
probably better to include a list of memcpy signatures from gcc 2.95 to the end of GBA lifespan
2:50 PM
and let it run checks on all of them
Trit 1/18/2018 2:50 PM
Unlicensed games would be interesting to see if they worked
Revo 1/18/2018 2:51 PM
...indeed, i did in fact find libc memcpy in FF6 GBA
2:51 PM
0x156344
2:51 PM
it doesnt mean its decompilable, though. could be an asm game linking libc anyway
2:51 PM
BN does that, i think
2:52 PM
its C libraries are the agb flash stuff
2:54 PM
`LINK........\mainbank\fontx.colCMNT......MODE........SIZE.... . .VER ....IS-ACG03END ...`
2:54 PM
i did find this
2:54 PM
in FF6 GBA
2:56 PM
anyway, a huge majority of games on GBA are decompilable and could serve as good long term TCRF material for years to come
Trit 1/18/2018 3:09 PM
Tcrf needs a lot of gba page updates tbh
Revenant 1/18/2018 3:09 PM
i know there are some games on SNES that clearly used some form of compiler (whether C or something else)
3:09 PM
although the SNES CPU is a really, really poor target for compilers and the generated code is usually really bloated and messy as a result
Trit 1/18/2018 3:09 PM
Yeah there are a lot of compiling code left in quite a few of em
Revenant 1/18/2018 3:15 PM
a lot of Koei's NES/SNES games also used a virtual machine (edited)
3:15 PM
and likely a C compiler that compiled to either the VM's bytecode or native machine code
3:16 PM
in fact at least one of their SNES games contains a very small amount of uncompiled C code https://tcrf.net/Aerobiz_Supersonic_(SNES)
Aerobiz Supersonic (SNES)
Revo 1/18/2018 3:27 PM
its not known if that code is for the game or for a tool they used
3:27 PM
to abstract data into linkable objects
3:31 PM
i would say the latter and code got linked into the ROM somehow
Deleted User 1/18/2018 3:44 PM
Anything specific you'd suggest for the decompilation, @Revo ?
Revo 1/18/2018 3:44 PM
not to my knowledge. all of our hands are on deck for Pokemon decomp
3:44 PM
our ruby/sapphire project is at 85%
Deleted User 1/18/2018 3:44 PM
Oh nice
Revo 1/18/2018 3:44 PM
85% of the decompilable code is in src/ instead of asm/
3:44 PM
thats what we mean
3:45 PM
as C code, and not asm
cuba200611 1/18/2018 4:08 PM
Huh, Koei...
4:09 PM
The music in their Genesis/MD games sounds almost same as the PC-88/98 orignals...
4:09 PM
Which makes me believe that they might have ported the sound engine over...
Revenant 1/18/2018 4:13 PM
they might as well have since both of those systems use the same series of yamaha FM chips
cuba200611 1/18/2018 4:15 PM
They also ported some of their games to IBM compatables...
4:15 PM
I wonder how much code they share with the PC-98 originals...
Revenant 1/18/2018 4:20 PM
aside from graphics/audio/peripheral stuff, probably a good bit
leilei 1/18/2018 4:24 PM
i love it when different games on different platforms have the same composers use the same chips (or extremely related/similar) to create extremely similar sounding music (edited)
4:25 PM
gauntlet iv on genesis vs shippu mahou daisakusen kingdom grandprix arcade (edited)
4:29 PM
you'd think that would lend itself to a genesis backport.......nope! the music got pcmified with added reverb on a later saturn port instead (edited)
Revo 1/18/2018 5:33 PM
you might see much more R/S TCRF soon, we're trying to get the debug ROM to match via the dissassembly, which will tell us exactly what extra stuff it has
5:34 PM
so anything that was missed
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/18/2018 7:00 PM
I think Koei did not use assembler much in early games (edited)
7:01 PM
Koei use BASIC or C
cuba200611 1/18/2018 8:26 PM
The original Nobunaga's Ambition was coded in BASIC, that I know of...
8:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMyjq2MTcp8
taka9371
信長の野望（初代） 攻略
8:30 PM
The second one was the first one released overseas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz87eOrlf84
Retro Gamer Z
【PC-8801 信長の野望 全国版】 本能寺の変で明智光秀を返り討ちにしてみた (実機でプレイ)
8:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNJWrB8Ju-k
nesguide
Nobunaga's Ambition - NES Gameplay
divingkxt 1/18/2018 9:06 PM
They mostly used C and relied on bytecode to do their NES and SNES Games.
9:06 PM
https://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15931
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/18/2018 9:07 PM
Also first Koei game is written in BASIC. Kawanakajima no Kassen for MZ-80. (edited)
cuba200611 1/18/2018 9:21 PM
They also made the first adult game, too, IIRC... (edited)
divingkxt 1/18/2018 10:16 PM
https://twitter.com/MonoGanaCA/status/953946116453670912
おとも (@MonoGanaCA)
#スーパーマリオメーカー 没データの麻雀碑のボイスとファンファーレ（2種）です 何故かstreamディレクトリに入っておりTCRFにも載っていません https://t.co/HzjZJxLXpA
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 12:04 AM
ok, so I go to read some things on tcrf, and the dumbasses that designed the firewall for my school's guest network blocked tcrf because it was "games"
12:06 AM
I then wanted to proceed to smack whoever made the firewall repeatedly and hard
divingkxt 1/19/2018 12:17 AM
Not surprising considering the word "games" is mentioned a lot on the site.
12:17 AM
And while we do have some downloadable games, they're usually prototypes.
12:17 AM
Or, in a rare case, the original version of a game before it was hastily pulled down.
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 12:29 AM
but it still pissed me off nonetheless, I just wanted to see the debug ini data for sonic and knuckles collection (I had some spare time on my hands) and they blocked me
divingkxt 1/19/2018 12:51 AM
They also did in several schools I know.
MysticSageJosh 1/19/2018 1:35 AM
wasn't kirby's adventure (or dream land... the.. one on the NES) developed with an onscreen keyboard?
divingkxt 1/19/2018 1:38 AM
"Stupid European Version has a different order for the games on the free play menu than the master race NA version"
1:38 AM
That's a little cringey.
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 1:39 AM
where was this posted
1:40 AM
and if this was anything kirby, the JP version is the """""master race""""" version
MysticSageJosh 1/19/2018 1:41 AM
..doesn't really answer my questions
1:42 AM
was it developed with an onscreen keyboard (I heard that somewhere...) and also if it was is it possible to re enable it somehow
divingkxt 1/19/2018 1:48 AM
@punk7890 Yes, that sample movie is also famously hidden in Sonic Mega Collection.
1:49 AM
Not going to move it to the Common Things page just yet, but yeah, it does prove that it's part of a larger dev kit.
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 1:52 AM
@divingkxt is there something I'm missing?
punk7890 1/19/2018 1:57 AM
@divingkxt Ah figured it was a Cri Ware test movie file. Thanks for letting me know.
1:58 AM
There is more "test" and "sample" stuff in this game but I am not sure what they are. If you'd like me to fetch them for you to analyze, let me know.
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:09 AM
The game also has some midi drivers on the disc, but the game doesn't even have midi / ps2 midi audio.
2:09 AM
Could be for SFX as games like to use midi for that for unknown reasons.
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:10 AM
I know of a few games that do that
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:10 AM
I've seen a lot that do that.
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:11 AM
But I know of a few games hold dev9 and multitap irxes without the need of them
2:11 AM
One in particular being vanilla namco museum
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:11 AM
I've seen dev9 sometimes. What is that exactly?
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:11 AM
Ya know the network adapter?
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:11 AM
Ah I see
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:11 AM
It's the whole controller for that section
2:12 AM
The dev9 is just the network adapter startup, there's also HDD.IRX and a couple others I can't think of right now
2:13 AM
Oh, PFS.IRX, which is a controller for reading/writing the pfs (playstation file system) architecture
2:14 AM
I think there's either ATAPI.IRX or ASPI.IRX, but as of right now cannot get to my computer to check
2:14 AM
I think it's the former
2:14 AM
HDD is the (you guessed it) whole hard disk controller
2:15 AM
and the latter one I don't know what it's for
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:15 AM
Neat
2:15 AM
Yeah I've seen HDD in FFX I think it was
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:16 AM
I know a good lot about the ps2, but know fuck all about actually programming for it
2:16 AM
FFX in japan had hdd capabilities
2:16 AM
As well as int'l (jp)
2:17 AM
X-2 had them but not capabilities to actually hold data on the hdd
2:17 AM
Speaking of, does anyone here know of a way to read the data of FFX/X-2 and decrypt it into files?
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:17 AM
Socom II had them for downloadable maps I think it was. I never had a HDD at the time that game was still functional though.
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:18 AM
Yeah
2:18 AM
I use my hdd for storing games and game saves
2:19 AM
It's incredibly useful for soulcalibur III, if you know of the save glitch with that game
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:19 AM
FFX/FFX-2/FFXII uses a hidden filesystem. While its not really a filesystem, the files just kinda sit there. I;m not sure how it works but you'd need to probably grab offsets while the game is running and / or extract them manually from a dumped ISO.
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:19 AM
Hmmmmm
2:20 AM
I hate to be needy, but a tutorial on how to do so would be nice
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:20 AM
The game does know where they are so it probably best to grab offsets while the game is running. You'd need to understand mips/asm though
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:20 AM
Like, sector offsets?
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:21 AM
Probably something like that, yeah. I;ve never looked into it myself
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:21 AM
Because I could use pcsx2 for that
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:21 AM
aye
2:22 AM
might be easy to fetch during main init
MysticSageJosh 1/19/2018 2:22 AM
rip all of the waifus that died because of the SC3 glitch
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:22 AM
@MysticSageJosh ha ha ha
2:23 AM
Yeah, or install the files on the hdd and only log the cdvd reads
2:23 AM
All extractors are for the damn remakes >:[
2:24 AM
Or I just have to search harder
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:24 AM
I'd imagine there is tools to extract PSS files
2:25 AM
since that's generally common stuff
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:26 AM
I mean all of the files
2:27 AM
I'm curious
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:27 AM
yeah
2:27 AM
reminds me that there is unused maps in that game
2:27 AM
FFXII (edited)
MysticSageJosh 1/19/2018 2:27 AM
i want to figure out how to replace textures and sprites in ps2 games so i can use pronz mods make GH3 PS2 look better
punk7890 1/19/2018 2:27 AM
all games are different
2:27 AM
common format is TIM2
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:28 AM
Except for games in a series, usually
2:28 AM
If Guitar Hero is prerendered video, you're kinda screwed
MysticSageJosh 1/19/2018 2:28 AM
well i'm talking about the highway and gems
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:29 AM
shrugs
MysticSageJosh 1/19/2018 2:29 AM
i only know a little bit about gh3pc which i hope will transfer over at least somewhat to GH3PS2
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 2:30 AM
doubt it
2:30 AM
But you can give it a try
Nekorun 1/19/2018 5:43 AM
I have been looking forever for an extractor for the fatal frame series on the ps2. Several years ago someone on a forum started making a Quickbms script compatible with the original trilogy but got sidetracked with IRL things and never finished it or released what he had to the public (edited)
Laenthor 1/19/2018 2:01 PM
Holy crap about 20% of HP3's audio is unused (stats are from observation only). I'm gonna have a good time going through these files (and the sound test have all the files that were removed)
Laenthor 1/19/2018 2:20 PM
AirSpeedNormal=800.00AirSpeedBoost=800.00
2:20 PM
The most useful boosts
Dezent 1/19/2018 2:24 PM
Yeeeeeeessss speed and powaaah
Laenthor 1/19/2018 2:35 PM
To compare, in the same game, 100 speed is the equivalent to a decent paced run.
LarryLemmy 1/19/2018 4:30 PM
This me whenever I figure out how to rip or hex edit something https://i.imgur.com/ZvUvfWg.gif
Stewie1.0 1/19/2018 4:50 PM
Lmao
Laenthor 1/19/2018 4:51 PM
I can't do it efficiently and most people can't either, so you kind of are more intelligent than most XD
Deleted User 1/19/2018 7:00 PM
harry potter 3?
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 8:03 PM
@punk7890 I can't seem to get that thing you were talking about last night to work
8:05 PM
also, it's ATAD.IRX
8:05 PM
not ASPI or ATAPI
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 8:13 PM
wait a second, it works by LBA...
punk7890 1/19/2018 8:32 PM
I can't remember what we were talking about
8:33 PM
what are you trying to do @ゲームボーイ64
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 8:37 PM
Extract files from the FFX hidden file system
punk7890 1/19/2018 8:38 PM
oh that. I was just conceptualizing ways to go about doing that. I don't actually know how
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 8:38 PM
I have an ELF disassembler, but it tells me no LBAs
punk7890 1/19/2018 8:39 PM
it probably fetches / computes them in real time
8:39 PM
probably not a global table of LBAs (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 8:39 PM
Do you know of a good way then?
punk7890 1/19/2018 8:40 PM
nope, sorry. I'd try and look for common formats in the iso first, like PSS movies or audio files. I think that game uses a custom sequence engine though. No idea about textures / models
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 8:41 PM
I used some headers from PSS files, but no matches were found
punk7890 1/19/2018 8:41 PM
then again, there probably is no named files in those games
8:41 PM
yeah, that'd be hard either way without knowing key stuff to search
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 8:54 PM
@divingkxt do you know?
punk7890 1/19/2018 9:30 PM
try searching "encoded by TMPGEnc" for videos
9:30 PM
some PSS files have that
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 9:31 PM
psshhhht
9:31 PM
these were encoded with a 5.1
punk7890 1/19/2018 9:32 PM
doesn't matter. If you can find start + end they should play fine
9:33 PM
9:33 PM
valid headers should look something like that
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 9:40 PM
it doesn't have anyheaders like that
9:40 PM
I searched the iso
punk7890 1/19/2018 9:41 PM
bummer, probably no easy identifier then
9:41 PM
maybe try searching SShd. That's generally audio headers for PSS
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 9:42 PM
maybe, currently I'm asking a friend for help
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 10:06 PM
@punk7890 found SSHD, but in all caps
punk7890 1/19/2018 10:07 PM
that won;t be it. It should be SShd exactly
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 10:07 PM
ok
punk7890 1/19/2018 10:07 PM
screenshot it if you want though
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 10:07 PM
oh boy we have a match
10:08 PM
punk7890 1/19/2018 10:08 PM
ah that's no good
10:08 PM
let me find what it should look like
10:10 PM
10:10 PM
should look nice and clean like that with SShd + SSbd pair
10:11 PM
data is much later in the file hence the 00s
ゲームボーイ64 1/19/2018 10:12 PM
nope
punk7890 1/19/2018 10:12 PM
if its in a movie file it won't look that clean
10:12 PM
bummer
divingkxt 1/19/2018 11:46 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=The_Cutting_Room_Floor%3AContent_to_expand&type=revision&diff=536815&oldid=536810
index.php?title=The_Cutting_Room_Floor%3AContent_to_expand&type=revision&diff=536815&oldid=536810
11:46 PM
I have a feeling this screensaver is way out of TCRF's expanse.
Revenant 1/19/2018 11:51 PM
probably
11:51 PM
i mean it's the subject of some pretty interesting IP case law but it's also... not a game
divingkxt 1/19/2018 11:53 PM
I'll document this on my own wiki instead.
divingkxt 1/20/2018 12:07 AM
But yeah, not the only time Berkeley Breathed had copyright issues. (edited)
12:07 AM
https://tcrf.net/Maelstrom_(Mac_OS_Classic)
Maelstrom (Mac OS Classic)
12:08 AM
I played a version of this with Bill and Opus as icons.
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:38 AM
Hello! First time posting here! I would like to ask regarding unused content for a game I know. Would like to double check and verify.
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:41 AM
welcome to the club!
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:43 AM
Thanks ^^
12:43 AM
I noticed that the sections for the Phantasy Star Online series had very few things documented
12:44 AM
A friend of mine in particular did the page for Phantasy Star Online 2
12:44 AM
And he told me i should see if the past titles have any content worth documenting that was not used
12:45 AM
Needless to say... the TCG third entry had this:
12:45 AM
12:45 AM
Prototype cards
12:45 AM
12:45 AM
How the final ones look like
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:46 AM
so the above card images would be unused, right?
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:46 AM
Theres more than one but basically yes
12:46 AM
They typically use placeholder art as well
12:46 AM
In addition
12:47 AM
The games files contained assets
12:47 AM
From the first game
12:47 AM
As far back as the Dreamcast version and Trial version
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:47 AM
that should fit the scope of TCRF, try to extract the raw images from the game
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:47 AM
Sure
12:47 AM
I should als bring up...
12:48 AM
See the game is weird in that some of the Episode III specific files
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:48 AM
the wiki's help page is rather comprehensive, should give you enough of an idea of how to go about it if you haven't read through it yet
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:48 AM
Are in a new format
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:48 AM
https://tcrf.net/Help:Contents
Help:Contents
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:48 AM
These beta cards are in the old texture format
12:48 AM
Hence why i was able to uncover them
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:49 AM
just one nit-pick, avoid using the term 'beta'. I think prerelease is the preferred term around here
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:49 AM
Oh my bad, sure
12:49 AM
Thanks
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:49 AM
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:50 AM
By any chance
12:51 AM
Do file oddities count? The folders containing the web browser files for the Dreamcast version had a folder full of weird gif
12:51 AM
That jave no place
12:51 AM
In the game
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:52 AM
well, those also sound unused. should also be okay. there are quite a few games with wierd unrelated stuff in them.
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:52 AM
Okie thanks
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:52 AM
If i were you, go through some of the bigger articles to give you a frame of reference for things like this
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:53 AM
I have been through them in the past
12:53 AM
Thing is... i thought there had to be a reason that tgese
12:53 AM
Where never documented
12:53 AM
Especially cause one of the few things documented in the article for ep iii
12:53 AM
Was in the same folder
12:54 AM
As these prerelease textures
divingkxt 1/20/2018 12:54 AM
Nah, people just overlooked these.
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:54 AM
Is there a rule about games that dont have a page by any chance?
12:54 AM
A friend of mine and i are looking tgriugh
12:55 AM
Phantasy Star Universe of which
12:55 AM
Not many ppl have looked thriugh
12:55 AM
And seems to lack a page
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:55 AM
well, tcrf is a wiki. so if you've got something for a game not documented on there, then of course you can make a page
divingkxt 1/20/2018 12:55 AM
Phantasy Star Universe is OK. I think a reason that it lacks a page is because of its size.
12:56 AM
And because it ain't easy to find. Also, the servers are dead.
Gearlis 1/20/2018 12:56 AM
The game is playable offline and handles lots of things client side
12:57 AM
The friend in question is a programmer for the Clementine fan server which relies on the last updated release of the Japanese client
12:57 AM
Any modification to make it run in English is minimal as all English text is in a single binary file
12:58 AM
I'd mostly be focusing on the client side content
Biscuiteer 1/20/2018 12:59 AM
sounds like to me like you've already got a plan, so i'd say go for it
Deleted User 1/20/2018 1:08 PM
wait a bloody second
1:10 PM
I finally decided to poke my head in the other folders of Hey! Pikmin and man, this folder perplexes me. It's called "viewer" and it has parameters for what I think is .. logs? But it follows the same anomaly of the "chara" format and I'm not sure what even this does
Hiccup 1/20/2018 2:39 PM
whats the anomaly?
2:39 PM
I read your previous posts, but didn't really understand.
divingkxt 1/20/2018 4:14 PM
https://tcrf.net/images/5/57/Galactic_Frontiers_%28Mac_OS_Classic%29_-_Shucks_1.0.png
4:14 PM
vs
4:15 PM
https://tcrf.net/images/f/ff/Galactic_Frontiers_%28Mac_OS_Classic%29_-_Shucks_1.0.2.png
LinkingHeartZ 1/20/2018 4:19 PM
ok I need some more help with uploading a title screen on the site
4:22 PM
so I'm trying to upload this image, and when I do, the site says the MIME type doesn't match, like how I've tried before
4:22 PM
4:23 PM
this is a .png version, and below is the .jpg version
CheetahPixie 1/20/2018 4:23 PM
@LinkingHeartZ then just rename the file to change the extension. You've been briefed about this before.
Revenant 1/20/2018 4:24 PM
>file c:\temp\Life_is_Strange_Before_the_Storm_20180120145319.png c:\temp\Life_is_Strange_Before_the_Storm_20180120145319.png: JPEG image data, EXIF standard (edited)
LinkingHeartZ 1/20/2018 4:24 PM
I have renamed it but I still got the error
4:24 PM
then I straight up said "screw it" and renamed it JPEG and uploaded it. shouldn't have done that, so now I'm trying to fix it
Revenant 1/20/2018 4:25 PM
well, it's a JPEG file despite the extension
4:25 PM
`file` detects it as one
LinkingHeartZ 1/20/2018 4:26 PM
unlike my tries before, this is a capture straight from PS4, saved as a .jpg
Smoke 1/20/2018 4:27 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4bk2i7/dont_forget_to_change_your_ps4_screenshot_format/
Don't forget to change your PS4 screenshot format to PNG for better quality. • r/NoMansSkyTheGame
If you'd like your game screenshots to be in a higher quality format, you can now select PNG instead of JPEG. To access, press Share > Share...
Revenant 1/20/2018 4:27 PM
oh i was looking at the one you posted which had the .png extension
4:27 PM
but was still a jpg file
4:27 PM
which probably would give an error
LinkingHeartZ 1/20/2018 4:28 PM
@Smoke that is how I got the picture, but I still got the error
4:28 PM
crappity crap wait I got mixed up
4:29 PM
I only read this, thinking it would change the format
Revenant 1/20/2018 4:30 PM
if you're able to upload a real png version just poke me and i'll delete the jpg one
LinkingHeartZ 1/20/2018 4:32 PM
upload it to the Discord or the TCRF site
Smoke 1/20/2018 4:32 PM
The site
LinkingHeartZ 1/20/2018 4:33 PM
okay, all I really need are the other title screen images to be deleted. you can find them pretty easily in the image database since they are fairly recent (edited)
4:34 PM
I really don't wanna upload the same image again and again with different titles
4:35 PM
@Revenant if you can delete the old images I uploaded, that would be great
Revenant 1/20/2018 4:35 PM
sure, one sec
4:36 PM
was it just that title screen?
LinkingHeartZ 1/20/2018 4:36 PM
yeah, but there were two different ones that I uploaded on the site. you should be able to find them in the image database (edited)
LinkingHeartZ 1/20/2018 4:45 PM
alrighty, I uploaded a real png version of the image
4:45 PM
so that's all done.
4:47 PM
thanks @Smoke for finding the reddit post, and @Revenant for the in-deph image descriptions and helping clarify some stuff
Revenant 1/20/2018 4:47 PM
np
Smoke 1/20/2018 4:47 PM
np
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/20/2018 4:47 PM
np
4:47 PM
wait
4:47 PM
Smoke 1/20/2018 4:47 PM
thank you @CELL Broadband Engine 2006
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/20/2018 4:48 PM
np
LinkingHeartZ 1/20/2018 4:48 PM
thank
divingkxt 1/20/2018 7:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9k3RdfJ2U8 Guru Larry finally tackles Peter Molyneux
Larry Bundy Jr
5 Times Peter Molyneux Was An Asshole | Fact Hunt
MusashiAA 1/20/2018 7:39 PM
That original character reminds me of the protagonist from Freakazoid
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/21/2018 12:25 AM
okay there's this sprite that i hate that a zillion sonic romhacks like to use for when sonic is dropping down from a spring jump but i didn't see it on any of the sonic game pages is it... not unused??
12:26 AM
of course i can't find the actual thing now that i'm looking for it on purpose but for comparison this is the redraw someone did of it for a sonic mania hack (edited)
Revo 1/21/2018 12:31 AM
doesnt Sonic CD use it for "I'm outta here!"
divingkxt 1/21/2018 12:31 AM
Yes, it does.
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/21/2018 12:31 AM
OH YEAH
12:31 AM
that's it
12:31 AM
i forgot that was part of the game
divingkxt 1/21/2018 12:32 AM
It's not in the data for any of the older Sonic games (read:1991-1996) outside of Sonic CD.
12:32 AM
It's popular because of how cool it is.
12:32 AM
Someone, shoop that into every action movie.
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🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/21/2018 12:33 AM
but it's completely off tone it has the "fuck you for letting me sit here three damn minutes" face and they're using it for "WHEE I BOUNCED ON A SPRING"
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/21/2018 12:33 AM
@divingkxt put me into every action movie?
12:34 AM
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/21/2018 12:35 AM
the pose is cool, i get why they like the pose, but can't someone, anywhere in the entire community, edit the expression?
divingkxt 1/21/2018 12:37 AM
But how is Sonic supposed to imitate a ninja then?
Revo 1/21/2018 12:38 AM
off topic, but the pokeemerald dissassembly finished getting rid of baserom.gba dependency just now
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/21/2018 12:38 AM
i don't know what that means but congrats
Revo 1/21/2018 12:38 AM
dont need the GBA ROM to build it
12:39 AM
also means the ROM can shift without consequences
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 12:49 AM
hey @Revenant sorry to bother, if I am, but there's another .jpeg of that image I uploaded. can you delete it? thanks in advance https://tcrf.net/File:LISBTS_TitleScreen.jpeg
File:LISBTS TitleScreen.jpeg
Revenant 1/21/2018 12:49 AM
done
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 12:50 AM
alright, thanks
Smoke 1/21/2018 10:51 AM
wtf: https://tcrf.net/Rocket_League_MAC_Download_Free_for_Mac_OS_X_-_Torrent
Rocket League MAC Download Free for Mac OS X - Torrent
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 10:57 AM
what the...?
10:58 AM
I wonder if it's alright for me to erase everything off of that page (edited)
ƒluƒƒу 1/21/2018 10:59 AM
technically it's more alright than the page existing to begin with
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 11:00 AM
okay, so I erased everything off of the page
Smoke 1/21/2018 11:37 AM
@Revenant : Spam page https://tcrf.net/Rocket_League_MAC_Download_Free_for_Mac_OS_X_-_Torrent
Rocket League MAC Download Free for Mac OS X - Torrent
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 11:37 AM
good thing I deleted almost everything so nobody falls for any traps
11:40 AM
shit! someone added the links back in
Smoke 1/21/2018 11:40 AM
i didnt know bots fought back
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 11:40 AM
someone named Alex?
11:41 AM
AlexMacosu
GerbilSoft 1/21/2018 11:42 AM
>Mac OS - u
Smoke 1/21/2018 11:42 AM
ohnvm
11:42 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=AlexMacosu&oq=AlexMacosu&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 11:42 AM
I dunno what the user talk does, but I did something
Smoke 1/21/2018 11:43 AM
just ignore them until an admin does something
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 11:43 AM
so apparently they got banned from a whole bunch of forums and stuff for doing this same crap
11:47 AM
interesting
Deleted User 1/21/2018 11:55 AM
https://alexmacosu.deviantart.com/
11:55 AM
He'z ze Comrade my brothers
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 11:56 AM
this page is very... blank
11:57 AM
this is probably the only thing that interests me
11:57 AM
maybe he lives in Russia?
Deleted User 1/21/2018 12:03 PM
russia's where masha and the bear exists
LinkingHeartZ 1/21/2018 12:03 PM
god I hate how that show looks
Laenthor 1/21/2018 1:01 PM
https://youtu.be/iGgRYhFgXN4 I really don't know why this exists but I'm gonna have to remove a bunch of dialogue clips from the hp2 subpage...
IraOOKS
How to come into a Transfiguration class without punishment McGonagall (Chamber Of Secrets,PC)
1:05 PM
Should I doccument this somewhere on the page instead? You really need to go out of your way to find this...
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/21/2018 1:06 PM
the custom seems to be that content you shouldn't be able to see and only can because of a glitch still counts as unused, so yes
Laenthor 1/21/2018 1:14 PM
Alright. I'm replaying the game just to see how it works exactly.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/21/2018 2:48 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1wnfrh/looks_like_thq_needs_to_up_the_rating_on/cf3uni3/
Looks like THQ needs to up the rating on SpongeBob Squarepants: Battle for Bikini Bottom • r/gaming
1493 points and 62 comments so far on reddit
2:48 PM
Ugh, I remember testing SpongeBob SquarePants: Revenge of the Flying Dutchman fro them back in 2002. If anyone here thinks being a game test would be fun, wait until you're forced to hear Spongebob's laugh and theme song 40 times a day, 5 days a week for 6 months. It was a horrifying experience, and I'm not just talking about the game itself.
2:49 PM
Laenthor 1/21/2018 2:50 PM
And it looks like this event can be activated anytime between gamestate 20 and 50 (after the first challenge but before the corridor gets "flooded". You can get all your points removed by going in the classroom over and over again XD. This leads me to believe multiple sequences that involve not being first in the house point ceremony are in fact unused because I tried getting as less points as I could before the ceremony (which is 30), but the game sets a minimum of 70 points on the next map XD
2:51 PM
I even tried putting higher points on other houses and it's always griffindor in the lead no matter what. Dumbledore's drunk again!
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/21/2018 2:51 PM
"five billion points to gryffindor, because harry potter is the main character!"
2:52 PM
i actually lost the house cup playing through hp1 on gba apparently it's also possible to lose in the gbc version, but i never actually accomplished that
Laenthor 1/21/2018 3:11 PM
Points don't even do shit in hp1 and they only serve to give you more time in the bonus room in hp2. They dissapeared from the games aftet that.
3:12 PM
I'm going to try to lose as much points as I can through the whole game.
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/21/2018 3:12 PM
in both game boy versions, all they determine is whether you earn a harry potter card for new game plus on gbc, and because it's the last one to collect on gba
Laenthor 1/21/2018 3:35 PM
Messing with debug mode in hp games never get old XD
Borman 1/21/2018 3:35 PM
Youd like the video I did on some DS pitches if you havent seen it
3:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_juE2SnGcQ
PtoPOnline
Harry Potter : Two Unseen DS Prototypes
Laenthor 1/21/2018 3:37 PM
Hun, looks just like hp3
3:43 PM
Oh phew these alternate house point ceremony cutscenes are used, you just have to put the game on hard and try to lose intentionnally.
3:43 PM
You can't actually lose on easy I think
Laenthor 1/21/2018 3:55 PM
Fun fact: if you don't touch anything for the learning part of a spell in hp2 you still win
3:55 PM
It takes about 5 loops
ゲームボーイ64 1/21/2018 3:55 PM
chamber of secrets is a CD based game on the PS2 while none of the others are
3:56 PM
I find it weird, since it's a really open game
divingkxt 1/21/2018 3:56 PM
I remember playing HP1 on two VERY shitty PCs.
3:56 PM
The framerate was very low, to the point I couldn't get far in the game.
3:56 PM
No 3D accelerators there and I didn't have the much harder to find Mac version.
Laenthor 1/21/2018 3:57 PM
I played hp1 when I was 4. Probably one of my first gaming experiences
3:57 PM
I think my mum finished it, not sure
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:00 PM
Borman 1/21/2018 4:02 PM
Nice, Loved that game
Laenthor 1/21/2018 4:03 PM
Wait that's a real game?
Borman 1/21/2018 4:04 PM
Its a good SRPG
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:05 PM
wasn't that on DS as well?
Laenthor 1/21/2018 4:06 PM
Hun, is the game about the french revolution or what?
Borman 1/21/2018 4:06 PM
Dont think so Ehm, PSP only
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:08 PM
ah
Laenthor 1/21/2018 4:10 PM
Wait hun? I just made ravenclaw in 1st place and it had an alternate script too?! I'm gonna have to look at the rules that determine points because I think slytherin is always supposed to be in the lead
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/21/2018 4:11 PM
oh dang
4:11 PM
that's a lot more effort than i would have expected the game to put in
Laenthor 1/21/2018 4:11 PM
Well in the lead, i mean ahead of the other 2 boring houses
4:12 PM
I think slytherin can win sometimes because I remember seing an alternate scene when I was way younger but it's still weird to have to avoid everything in the level just to lose
4:14 PM
Pff yeah that confirms it. Right after the cutscene and reloading the map, slytherin just got in the lead again
4:15 PM
So then, unused cutscenes and yet more dialogue.
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:16 PM
Derby stallion p
4:17 PM
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:17 PM
No cheat devices used?
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:17 PM
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:18 PM
これはどのように入れましたか？ (edited)
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:19 PM
Speak Japanese?
Revenant 1/21/2018 4:19 PM
activating horse vision
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:19 PM
A fair amount, yes.
4:19 PM
Not that I'd do fan translations any time soon.
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:19 PM
Wanna translate some beta labels?
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:19 PM
Sure.
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:20 PM
Hehe enjoy this one
4:20 PM
4:20 PM
Blue one?
4:22 PM
I know what the silvers are
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:22 PM
Man, that is a blurry image.
4:22 PM
Ah, got the original image.
4:23 PM
CS検査ディスク - CS Inspection Disc (edited)
4:24 PM
Probably for checking the UMD laser.
LarryLemmy 1/21/2018 4:25 PM
If the palette for an image isn't in the same file as the image itself, are they any other likely files it will be in?
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:25 PM
@LarryLemmy Which game?
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:25 PM
Yeah, good job diving
4:25 PM
Kensa disc
LarryLemmy 1/21/2018 4:26 PM
It's a demo for Jak II that has a map in an STR file and it doesn't seem to have a palette. Luminar and I have mentioned it here before
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:28 PM
The palette might still be there, but it would be 24bit RGB with 256 palette entries right before the image.
4:28 PM
The exact offset would have to be found manually.
4:28 PM
If not in the STR file, then my next guess would be the executable.
4:29 PM
Or even a PAL file.
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:31 PM
Katae any ideas?
4:31 PM
Won't work in. Retail
LarryLemmy 1/21/2018 4:34 PM
This is all that appears before the pixels. I don't think the red gradient is the palette because aren't nearly enough colours there
Laenthor 1/21/2018 4:36 PM
Wish I could read japanese, but I'm more interested to learn german actually. Maybe russian too, the alphabet looks funny
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:36 PM
The Russian Alphabet is largely similar to the Greek alphabet,
4:36 PM
but with modifications done to account for sounds not present in Greek.
4:36 PM
製造検査DISC (1) (仕向け ALL)
4:37 PM
Manufacturing Inspection DISC (1) (Target ALL)
Luminar 1/21/2018 4:37 PM
Was there ever any ps2 game that stored the palette in the executable?
4:38 PM
It might help if there is such a game
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:40 PM
Beats me, since I don't have many PS2 games to reference.
4:40 PM
@LarryLemmy 24-bit, not 32-bit.
4:41 PM
I've probably looked into 10 or 15 games top for that.
LarryLemmy 1/21/2018 4:42 PM
24 bit doesn't seem to help either
divingkxt 1/21/2018 4:43 PM
@Deleted User 製造検査DISC (1) (仕向け ALL) - Manufacturing Inspection DISC (1) (Target ALL)
Luminar 1/21/2018 4:43 PM
I was thinking that maybe the palette is in the executable but after thinking more I just decided that it wouldn't make much sense. I will look for ps2 games with palette in the executable though, just to be sure.
Deleted User 1/21/2018 4:44 PM
Great stuff, thank you
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/21/2018 6:56 PM
http://inamin.fc2web.com/diary99.htm PS2 game "転生學園幻蒼録"(Tenshou Gakuen Gensouroku) has erothic game graphics in disc.
6:56 PM
I surprised it!
Laenthor 1/21/2018 7:25 PM
In hp2: Currently trying to find the defining rule for house points. I found the challenge timer rules but not the actual point definition function in any object.
7:26 PM
Dunno what sets nScore (sorry for this pic I can't install discord on this computer
divingkxt 1/21/2018 7:28 PM
Rotated it.
Laenthor 1/21/2018 7:30 PM
Yeah sorry about that the phone discord app isn't as good as I thought
divingkxt 1/21/2018 7:31 PM
Stuff like this is why people use grep.
7:31 PM
Because it lets you search where "nScore" is used in any file.
Laenthor 1/21/2018 7:31 PM
I need to use utpt first
7:32 PM
and there are lots of instances of Nscore in this so grep won't help
7:34 PM
It's another story of unfinishable function inheritance...
7:35 PM
nTallyPointsPerTick = byte((nCurrScore - nHighScore)) / 3.0 * fTicksPerSec = if ( nTallyPointsPerTick < 1 );
7:36 PM
So uh 1 point per 3 "ticks"?
7:38 PM
if ( !bMastered && (nCurrScore >= nMaxScore) ) { nAwardGryffPoints += 50; }
7:39 PM
So no matter what you do, you get minimum 50 points before the first ceremony.
7:40 PM
I have to look through all of this only to see if I can make ravenclaw or hufflepuff win with no cheats before posting these 2 events as unused but I can't find the object that sets the general points XD
7:46 PM
Quidditch is also really hard to die in. The code has specific stuff for drinking a healing potion while on a broom, which isn't an option I'm pretty sure
Laenthor 1/21/2018 8:00 PM
I finally found it, but can someone help me interpret it?
8:02 PM
Actually the decompiler fucked up a bit here
8:05 PM
Actually screw it the whole object is the rule.
8:06 PM
StatusGroupHousePoints.txt
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8:06 PM
Sorry for the huge amount of text in the last few minutes btw
Deleted User 1/21/2018 9:22 PM
@Deleted User "It's... Knack. Why not." Nice.
9:23 PM
what else is there to say about knack
Laenthor 1/21/2018 9:27 PM
Knack 2 baby!
Deleted User 1/21/2018 9:37 PM
pretty much
divingkxt 1/21/2018 10:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h68UNb3QugY
UdonkoX
モンスターファーム2 未使用対戦モンスター集 Monster Rancher 2 - Unused Enemies
11:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA47F2uQF5w
Fablefire
Obscure VGM - Monster Rancher (PS1) Hidden CD Audio Music
2
divingkxt 1/22/2018 12:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JABlCNaaNcc
Fablefire
Hardwar - Hidden Developer Message
12:14 AM
Anyone want to transcribe what the devs are saying.
12:16 AM
"All right, so it's like 3 in the morning and we'd finally like to finish the final version. Uh... Hang on, is that (someone) there? (people start singingly badly)
12:16 AM
(giggling) Like I said before... (more singing) It's better when we record it in the studio. Vocal is different though."
Laenthor 1/22/2018 11:10 AM
Well time to upload an old hud made out of around 60 textures
Revenant 1/22/2018 11:31 AM
https://twitter.com/covell_chris/status/955399671052091392
Chris Covell (@covell_chris)
Hyper Zone on the SNES has a hidden 3-D mode, and I've discovered that it also has a hidden interface to the Famicom 3-D glasses ファミコン３Dシステム対応ソフトをスーファミに一本発見！️ #スーパーファミコン #SNES
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11:31 AM
did this get linked yet
Sneaker 1/22/2018 11:33 AM
well holy shit
11:34 AM
You'll be happy to know that I actually got one of those Panasonic 3D TVs to play hyperzone in 3D mode--- somehow
Revenant 1/22/2018 11:36 AM
heh nice
11:37 AM
(also, just to note: the actual presence of the 3D mode was noted on the wiki already but i don't think it was previously known that there was actual hardware support for the 3D glasses)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/22/2018 11:47 AM
Revenant 1/22/2018 11:53 AM
@Sneaker how do those TVs actually work
11:53 AM
i'd wonder how easily you could hack up 3D famicom etc. games for them but then you'd have to get an upscaler to make them not look shitty anyway
Sneaker 1/22/2018 11:54 AM
they work by syncing shutter glasses with a flickering screen
Revenant 1/22/2018 11:57 AM
oh so basically just the same thing as the famicom/master system 3D glasses already
FMecha 1/22/2018 12:20 PM
So I grabbed some crappy free shovelware racing games, Police Supercars Racing and Nitro Racers
12:20 PM
While looking into Police Supercars Racing's strings.txt folder, there is a file named strings.txt, all of them leftovers from Nitro Racers
12:22 PM
https://pastebin.com/dvJWQ5Eq (contains mojibake)
Police Supercars Racing strings.txt - Pastebin.com
12:25 PM
This page doesn't say who developed it: http://igcd.net/game.php?id=1000008993
12:25 PM
However, now I can safely assume that both PSR and Nito Racers are from same devs, Media Contact LLC http://www.mobygames.com/company/media-contact-llc
Media Contact LLC - MobyGames
GerbilSoft 1/22/2018 12:56 PM
wait what
12:56 PM
zomg
LarryLemmy 1/22/2018 1:27 PM
That reminds me
1:28 PM
I need to look through the files of Woody Woodpecker Racing on PS1
1:28 PM
The game's manual mentioned a cheat code to unlock a bonus vehicle but I don't think the code was real. But I want to see if there's actually any trace of this vehicle in the files
Laenthor 1/22/2018 1:45 PM
Anyone knows what "Hilite" could mean by the context of this?
1:46 PM
"FolioGoldHilite" is the name of the texture
leilei 1/22/2018 1:47 PM
being hovered/selected would be my best guess (edited)
Deleted User 1/22/2018 1:47 PM
"Highlight"
Laenthor 1/22/2018 2:06 PM
Ah that makes sense thanks
2:07 PM
Looks like the gold card actually did something instead of simply being an end-game bonus challenge reward
2:07 PM
*cards
2:10 PM
I really don't know why they redid the whole HUD over again, it looks just fine.
Deleted User 1/22/2018 2:31 PM
Could have been at corporate request. Who knows.
Laenthor 1/22/2018 3:07 PM
101 pictures XD I'm on fire!
Hiccup 1/22/2018 4:08 PM
@THX this I guess? https://developer.nvidia.com/gameworksdownload
Laenthor 1/22/2018 8:14 PM
Is this too much speculation? There are only 2 scripts and some textures. Waiting for a reply while I post the missing pictures
Laenthor 1/22/2018 8:21 PM
Well it's too late now, change it if you don't like it
Video 1/22/2018 10:31 PM
so i need some xbox 360 screenshots
10:31 PM
i have an xbox 360 myself but I don't got shit for a capture card
divingkxt 1/22/2018 10:35 PM
http://www.worldlibrary.org/article/whebn0010292712/list%20of%20playstation%201%20games%20with%20cd%20audio%20tracks\
leilei 1/23/2018 2:55 AM
oddest place for such an article imo
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/23/2018 8:43 AM
@divingkxt I try access ANM3DCHK.EXE. It can found on JP version also. I try to check now. (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/23/2018 9:38 AM
@divingkxt I did it! It worked on emulator.
9:41 AM
monster rancher anm3dchk.exe
9:42 AM
i write to tcrf now.
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/23/2018 10:33 AM
done!
CheetahPixie 1/23/2018 10:39 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ what? write to tcrf?
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/23/2018 10:39 AM
@CheetahPixie yes write to tcrf
CheetahPixie 1/23/2018 10:40 AM
...what do you think sending them an email will do?
ƒluƒƒу 1/23/2018 10:40 AM
no they mean
10:40 AM
writing the article and posting it themself
Revenant 1/23/2018 10:40 AM
writing on the wiki
10:40 AM
heh
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/23/2018 10:42 AM
Yes It's writing on the wiki. sorry.
CheetahPixie 1/23/2018 10:42 AM
On vs to.
10:42 AM
English, sometimes a good thing to know/study. (edited)
Netscape Navigator 1/23/2018 10:50 AM
write to my webzone if you want a pizza roll
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CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/23/2018 10:51 AM
FREE PIZZA ROLLS
Dezent 1/23/2018 10:51 AM
Now when you say free... is there a catch like there was with the last one? i.e, they're not coated with rat poison?
ƒluƒƒу 1/23/2018 10:52 AM
tch what are you, a fivestar gourmet critic
10:53 AM
food is food is food
10:53 AM
you've got to accept that not everything will be to your liking when it's free
10:54 AM
sure there miiiiiight be a risk of having my lungs burnt out by rat poison if i have these
10:55 AM
but it's still a pizza roll
Deleted User 1/23/2018 11:55 AM
Yo
cyborg 1/23/2018 12:06 PM
Hello!
Dezent 1/23/2018 12:07 PM
eyyyyyy
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/23/2018 12:12 PM
hai
Deleted User 1/23/2018 6:56 PM
Drac 1/23/2018 7:00 PM
no
GerbilSoft 1/23/2018 7:06 PM
old acc! inactive 1/23/2018 7:31 PM
garfielf you fat cat
ƒluƒƒу 1/23/2018 7:34 PM
GARFIELD, THIS CHAOS CAT HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON EVERYTHING, EVERYONE
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/23/2018 7:34 PM
#deleted-channel pls
Smoke 1/23/2018 8:28 PM
In all the years I've played GTA IV, I am almost certain that these are unused.
8:28 PM
I could be wrong though
Revo 1/23/2018 8:58 PM
have i mentioned Game Freak is stupid?
8:58 PM
`static bool8 sub_80E503C(u8 character) { u8 i; for (i = 0; gUnknown_0858BDC8[i] != EOS; i++) { if (character == gUnknown_0858BDC8[i]) return FALSE; } return FALSE; }` (yes, this does match)
8:58 PM
(somehow didnt get optimized out)
cuba200611 1/23/2018 8:59 PM
Wasn't G1 Pokemon a mess of code?
divingkxt 1/23/2018 8:59 PM
That's G3 Pokemon.
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/23/2018 8:59 PM
squints loudly what am i reading
ƒluƒƒу 1/23/2018 9:00 PM
i think it's more of a response to the general sentiment that game freak is stupid in general
9:00 PM
i mean let's face it we've all seen gen7 lag like fuck without 3d getting involved
9:00 PM
some things change, some things stay the same
Revo 1/23/2018 9:00 PM
its a function from pokeemerald where the for loop somehow didnt get optimized out
divingkxt 1/23/2018 9:01 PM
I want to argue it's because of obfuscation, but who knows... (edited)
9:01 PM
It definitely serves a purpose in making code harder to read for disassemblers.
Revo 1/23/2018 9:02 PM
https://hastebin.com/uguqenaley.c
9:02 PM
since we got the ruby debug ROM to match, we're able to actually decompile debug menu code
Laenthor 1/23/2018 9:05 PM
Well they're freaks, of course they're gonna be stupid XD
Revo 1/23/2018 9:11 PM
it turns out agbcc flukes up when there is const data and an extern to itself in the same file: it doesnt error, but it produces different registers
9:11 PM
it will be a sad day if its needed to match something
9:11 PM
if the const data is by itself, its fine
9:11 PM
if there's just the extern, it's fine
9:11 PM
if there's both, it's different
9:11 PM
in terms of compiler behavior i am concerned it may be required somewhere
9:15 PM
this is the matching asm
9:15 PM
`ldr r2, .L32+0x4 lsl r1, r1, #0x18 asr r1, r1, #0x18 ldr r0, .L32+0x8 ldr r0, [r0] add r0, r0, r1 ldrb r0, [r0] lsl r0, r0, #0x3 add r2, r2, #0x4 add r0, r0, r2 ldr r0, [r0] bl _call_via_r0 b .L18 .L33: .align 2, 0 .L32: .word gTasks+0x8 .word gUnknown_Debug_839BC94 .word gUnknown_030006C4`
9:15 PM
when both extern + data are used (probably erroneous on later compilers)
9:15 PM
`ldr r2, .L32+0x4 lsl r1, r1, #0x18 asr r1, r1, #0x18 ldr r0, .L32+0x8 ldr r0, [r0] add r0, r0, r1 ldrb r0, [r0] lsl r0, r0, #0x3 add r0, r0, r2 ldr r0, [r0, #0x4] bl _call_via_r0 b .L18 .L33: .align 2, 0 .L32: .word gTasks+0x8 .word gUnknown_Debug_839BC94 .word gUnknown_030006C4`
9:15 PM
its so strange
9:15 PM
ive also seen cases where not using static causes structs to become packed when not explicitly using the packed attribute
9:15 PM
i mean, ok, whatever
9:17 PM
(nv, turns out that wasnt the case with static)
Pasta937 1/23/2018 9:55 PM
9:56 PM
To this day it still creeps me out. (The eyeless Mario pictures)
9:59 PM
Also feel free to delete them because there are better gif versions available.
divingkxt 1/23/2018 11:16 PM
Where are those?
11:17 PM
Oh, in the SMG article, but not all of them it seems.
Pasta937 1/23/2018 11:34 PM
Maybe someday i'll see what's unused on both games.
divingkxt 1/23/2018 11:51 PM
I don't want a whole bunch of redundancy.
11:52 PM
If it's unused in both games, note that in the SMG article.
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 12:53 AM
hey er
12:54 AM
does anyone here happen to have an ntsc xenoblade iso handy
12:54 AM
because i just found something in the root directory of mine
12:54 AM
and i am genuinely not sure if this is a legit dump or if i'm being punked anymore
12:54 AM
and it's not something i recall seeing already up on tcrf
divingkxt 1/24/2018 12:59 AM
Not me. I've not looked into a Wii game as of yet.
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:00 AM
@ƒluƒƒу dolphin should have a signature verification function
1:00 AM
afaik the retail private keys are still hidden
1:00 AM
so if the retail signature verifies, then it should be a good copy
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:01 AM
ok i've found a checksum computation button
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:01 AM
not checksum - right-click the disc in the listing, properties, filesystem
1:02 AM
then right-click partition 1, verify integrity
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:02 AM
o ok i appreciate the more specific directions
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:02 AM
may not work properly if the disc image was scrubbed
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:02 AM
you'll have to bear with me, i am Pretty Dense with anything that's not just looking at the files themselves with no obstruction
1:02 AM
that's why i pal around with gcn and wii games
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:03 AM
running the integrity check on a debug RVT-R image right now
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:03 AM
just started the check myself
1:03 AM
also out of curiosity, and again bear with me for being dense
1:03 AM
rvt-r?
1:03 AM
i've seen you and a few others talking about that recently and i'm not sure what's going on there
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:03 AM
"Integrity check completed. No errors have been found"
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:03 AM
sorry for the trouble
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:03 AM
RVT-R = Wii equivalent of a DVD-R
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:04 AM
oh so it's just a wii disc with a debug build of something burnt onto it
1:04 AM
gotcha
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:04 AM
...actually hm, not sure if integrity check verifies the signature or just the hashes
1:04 AM
not exactly - RVT-Rs won't work on retail consoles
1:04 AM
they only work on RVT-R Reader systems
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:04 AM
stands to reason, i've read about 64dd debug/proto discs with similar limitations
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:05 AM
..okay the integrity check does NOT verify the signature
1:05 AM
https://wit.wiimm.de/
1:05 AM
https://wit.wiimm.de/wit/cmd-verify.html
1:05 AM
wit verify will verify the signature
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:06 AM
just as well, the dolphin check wrapped up and reported no errors
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:06 AM
that means the hashes are all correct
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:06 AM
i might as well show off what got me wondering
1:07 AM
in the disc root there's a series of 8 tpl files with very formulaic names
1:07 AM
`iconTexture[x]`
1:07 AM
together they form a.... very bizarre series
1:07 AM
1:07 AM
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:07 AM
those files are listed on the tcrf page for Xenoblade Chronicles 3D as leftovers
1:07 AM
https://tcrf.net/Xenoblade_Chronicles_3D
Xenoblade Chronicles 3D
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:08 AM
oh shit i didn't think to check the 3d page
1:08 AM
anyway
1:08 AM
1:08 AM
1:08 AM
1:08 AM
1:09 AM
1:09 AM
1:09 AM
i'm kind of on the fence about these
1:09 AM
like on one hand i could believably see the devs making this as an injoke
1:09 AM
but on the other it was kind of a surprise and shock
1:09 AM
since i'd never seen them mentioned on tcrf before
1:10 AM
not to mention the fact that each frame is its own archive file is very strange, wii texture archives are capable of holding much more than that
1:10 AM
in conclusion,
1:10 AM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
1:11 AM
but if 3d still contains references to them
1:11 AM
that's a good argument in favour of their legitimacy
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:12 AM
meanwhile, getting closer to getting RVT-H prototypes working on dolphin and retail
1:13 AM
next step is reencrypting an RVT-R image to work as a fakesigned retail image
1:13 AM
i know how to do it, it's just time consuming to get it in code
1:14 AM
decrypt the title key using the debug common key, re-encrypt it using the retail common key
1:14 AM
zero out the signature and then brute-force an SHA-1 that starts with 00
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 1:14 AM
ooh
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:14 AM
fakesigning depends on two errors in earlier versions of IOS:
1:15 AM

- using strncmp() to compare the SHA-1 - thus, if the hash begins with 00, it stops immediately

1:15 AM

- not properly checking the RSA signature for padding

1:15 AM
first one was fixed in later IOS, not sure about the second - either way, cIOS bypasses it entirely, but fakesigning stuff is still recommended over having a completely garbage signature
1:17 AM
sidenote: due to the way RSA works, if you zero the signature entirely, the decrypted signature is also 0 - hence why checking the padding is important
punk7890 1/24/2018 2:19 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/956063557908615170
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found some debug menus in a Japanese PS2 Neon Genesis Evangelion game. Codes + info at TCRF: https://t.co/JNqwxhjQng If anyone has more knowledge on this game, there appears to be some unused events / cutscenes + more to document using the debug menus.
2:20 AM
think there might be some button cheats to discover
2:20 AM
will have to look at that
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 2:20 AM
2:20 AM
now that's what i call a debug option
punk7890 1/24/2018 2:21 AM
Yeah heh. It just endlessly loops a voice sample, forever.
2:21 AM
Gonna edit that as it should be "plays"
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/24/2018 2:53 AM
It is interesting menu name. (edited)
punk7890 1/24/2018 6:52 AM
oh man
6:53 AM
there is like 20 cheats in this game and only 1 (that I know of) has been found
FMecha 1/24/2018 7:20 AM
I wonder if MMX2 in X Collection fails the LDMAC test in CX4 test?
Deleted User 1/24/2018 9:50 AM
@ƒluƒƒу looks like a Wii Menu-side save icon or something. Wii had those animated.
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 10:16 AM
48x48 actually is the correct resolution for a save file icon on Wii
10:16 AM
so that might be it
MysticSageJosh 1/24/2018 11:03 AM
@FMecha hold down whatever the b button is on the collection on controller 2?
FMecha 1/24/2018 11:03 AM
that one
11:04 AM
I am kinda curious if the the Cx4 test there fails LDMAC or others
11:04 AM
http://tasvideos.org/EmulatorResources/SNESAccuracyTests.html
11:07 AM
Wii VC X2 is known to fail LDMAC https://gbatemp.net/threads/nintendos-virtual-console-emulation-compared-to-others-curious-observation.438029/
Nintendo's Virtual console emulation compared to others, curious observation.
PLEASE START READING FROM THE 7TH PARAGRAPH FOR THE SHORT VERSION OF THIS POST. So for anyone who cares, not long ago, nintendo started relelasing...
MysticSageJosh 1/24/2018 11:09 AM
...that art is just
11:09 AM
.....odd
11:15 AM
"gimme hugs" "k"
MathOnNapkins 1/24/2018 11:26 AM
Is the IRC server down or is there a newer domain name and I've been using one that just got phased out?
Halfbit 1/24/2018 11:26 AM
Hi dudes
notwa 1/24/2018 11:26 AM
@MathOnNapkins should be irc.badnik.zone afaik
11:29 AM
maybe your selected DNS server is down?
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 11:36 AM
irc.badnik.zone -> 107.170.74.10
11:36 AM
you can try the IP directly
MathOnNapkins 1/24/2018 11:52 AM
heh, could be notwa. Thanks I'll try the IP GerbilSoft
MathOnNapkins 1/24/2018 1:22 PM
Hrm, can't connect even that way... guess I'll try at home. Wonder if comcast is behind it or something
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:24 PM
try a traceroute (tracert on windows)
MathOnNapkins 1/24/2018 1:24 PM
Good idea
MathOnNapkins 1/24/2018 1:34 PM
Seems to blocked at the gateway, maybe it got picked up in a blacklist (by wildcard or something)
1:34 PM
(company gateway, but that's managed by Xfinity so... perhaps it is hiding some detail from me)
1:36 PM
Certainly not a blanket IRC prohibition b/c I'm on a few other servers
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 1:48 PM
it's hosted on Digital Ocean
1:48 PM
could be some issue there
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:19 PM
The unused harry potter content never end! I always find something else each time I dive into a .u file
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:36 PM
that's how I feel whenever I dive into a pokemon game
2:37 PM
I'm often finding all sorts of funky unused assets
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:37 PM
I litterally opened a random file and just found a bunch of placeholder models and textures for hp3... Most are used but there are definitely things I've never seen in there
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:39 PM
i was digging into Pokemon Heart Gold one day and found all of the poketch graphics from DPPt
2:39 PM
as well as a completely unused app, and the graphics stem back all the way to Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
2:39 PM
it seemed pretty early into development too
2:40 PM
it was the Start Menu, but as an app
2:40 PM
and there was only one bag icon, so this was probably well before they made the design decision to give the male and female protagonists differently styled bags
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:42 PM
I mean when's the last time you've seen a game with about a 60/40 used/unused content ratio? HP3 has over 200 unused animations probably
2:42 PM
not speaking about the models...
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:42 PM
not a lot, really
2:42 PM
that's a pretty high ratio
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:43 PM
The first game I can understand (it was put together in 6 months). They cleaned up the 2nd game pretty well, putting everything unused in a folder, but hp3 is just all over the place
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:43 PM
6 months? damn
2:43 PM
i'd be dancing and doing cartwheels if I could put a game together in 6 months
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:43 PM
yeah, that explains the countless glitches XD
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:44 PM
(Paper Mario says hello)
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:44 PM
They had about 1.5 years to make the 2nd one, so that explains the up in quality
2:44 PM
I have no idea about hp3's dev time though
2:45 PM
My guess is that they started doing their own thing until EA came out, gave them the converted assets from the console versions and told them to make a team mechanic
2:45 PM
Which they didn't implement very well
2:46 PM
The models look pretty similar to the console versions and the unused anims are rather similar to these versions too...
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:46 PM
yeah, that'd sound likely
2:46 PM
kinda reminds me of Big Rigs Over The Road Racing
2:46 PM
it looks like a tech demo made in 2 months
2:46 PM
and performs like one too
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:46 PM
This is just speculation though, butstill very likely
2:46 PM
Oh yeah XD
2:47 PM
forgets to cap the speed iin reverse
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:47 PM
i once held reverse for like
2:47 PM
20 minutes straight
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:47 PM
-"Game's done, realease the stinking turd!"
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:47 PM
that was fun
2:47 PM
the game basically just broke
2:47 PM
it was hilarious to watch the game melt down
2:47 PM
I kinda wonder if I held it longer if I could cause an underflow
2:48 PM
and make it go as fast as possible forward, slowing down
2:48 PM
until it hit 90 again
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:48 PM
Did they use an engine or did they put everything together in some freeware domain horrid builder?
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:49 PM
given how old the game is, I imagine it was coded from scratch, but they destroyed what they had for a budget, so they cut their losses and released an unfinished game
2:49 PM
or
2:49 PM
they accidentally gave the company the wrong version
2:49 PM
or
2:49 PM
they just sucked at making games and decided to release what they thought was finished
2:49 PM
even though the QA was basically out the window that day
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:50 PM
I made a game in about 6 hours in unity about dodging falling blocks using basic rectangles and some player prefab. Made all the scripts myself and got 85% for a session project XD
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:50 PM
nice
2:50 PM
I kinda wanna start messing around in Unity but I'll wait until the summer for that
2:50 PM
I have a game dev project I'd really like to start but school would be really in the way
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:51 PM
It can be fun, the compatibility is what makes it accessible
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:51 PM
yeah
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:51 PM
I don't really care about making games though
2:51 PM
I never touched it since last summer
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:51 PM
i have access to Nintendo Wii U and 3DS SDKs, but I'm really hoping I'll be able to get a Switch dev kit
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:52 PM
Nice, just don't make Meme Run 2 for switch
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:52 PM
nah
2:52 PM
I'm going big
2:52 PM
RPG
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:52 PM
meme quest 3
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:52 PM
lol
Nex 1/24/2018 2:52 PM
make no mans sky 2
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:53 PM
No Man's Sky 2: The game people actually want to play
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:53 PM
Maybe we should switch to the games topic to continue this convo?
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:53 PM
eh
Nex 1/24/2018 2:53 PM
we need the no mans sky e3 prototype
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:53 PM
i'm probably gonna go play Zelda so
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:53 PM
Botw?
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:53 PM
ye
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:53 PM
how far are you?
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:53 PM
i've had it since launch but I haven't been playing it because of school
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:54 PM
I'm doing a master mode 3 heart run. It's easier than most think
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:54 PM
but I have Mipha's Grace so far, and that's the only Divine Beast I've finished (edited)
2:54 PM
i'm working on a few other things, as well as getting back down the combat skills
2:54 PM
so I'm looking around for some single wield weapons and I'm trying to face off against a Lynel near Zora's Domain
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:55 PM
I just backflip and win, they made the flurry rush too reliable
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:55 PM
I've got the shield blocking down but
2:55 PM
I can't seem to get flurry rush yet for some reason
2:55 PM
i thought i had it down but nope just chuck testa
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:55 PM
The timing is a bit weird to get used to at first (as well as not knowing how to switch weapons efficiently)
Incineroar 1/24/2018 2:55 PM
yeah
Laenthor 1/24/2018 2:56 PM
Apparently you can do a bow charging spin and it's not a glitch
2:56 PM
I don't know how to exactly use it though
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 3:00 PM
http://fortune.com/2018/01/24/toys-r-us-closings/ rip
How Amazon and Walmart Are Poised to Swoop in on Toys 'R' US
Toy retailer is closing 180 stores.
Laenthor 1/24/2018 3:03 PM
There's no Toysrus in my city, so I'm not really mad
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 3:04 PM
the one near me is on the list
3:04 PM
last time i went there was April 2007 when i got my wii
3:04 PM
so meh
Laenthor 1/24/2018 3:05 PM
Eh, sad
3:05 PM
Looks familiar to somebody?
Netscape Navigator 1/24/2018 3:05 PM
they're closing about 1/4 of their stores in the uk too
Laenthor 1/24/2018 3:06 PM
I'm going home, comming back later
Laenthor 1/24/2018 3:36 PM
So uh mystery texture will remain mystery texture
Luminar 1/24/2018 3:38 PM
looks like a humanoid surrounded with a glass cylinder
Nex 1/24/2018 3:41 PM
In some sort of container
Luminar 1/24/2018 3:41 PM
what game is this from?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/24/2018 3:45 PM
Looks like a lab/warehouse of sort
LarryLemmy 1/24/2018 3:58 PM
The thing at the bottom of the container makes it look like a lamp
Laenthor 1/24/2018 4:03 PM
It's from a static mesh folder in harry potter 3
Luminar 1/24/2018 4:03 PM
doesn't look like anything from harry potter
Laenthor 1/24/2018 4:04 PM
Not on my computer yet, I'll browse the folder a bit more.
4:04 PM
My guess is that it's simply a base UE2 texture used for reflexion
Luminar 1/24/2018 4:12 PM
the best way to find out if it is used or not is to replace the texture with something else (if possible)
Laenthor 1/24/2018 4:33 PM
Yeah, there's a few untextured models (no base textures) but I doubt it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/24/2018 5:31 PM
LarryLemmy 1/24/2018 6:22 PM
Is anyone here familiar enough with mid 90s Acorn Archimedes to help me with something?
laine 1/24/2018 6:41 PM
hello
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/24/2018 6:42 PM
Hai
ƒluƒƒу 1/24/2018 7:12 PM
`[1:50 AM] Ehm: @bookofholsety looks like a Wii Menu-side save icon or something. Wii had those animated. [2:16 AM] GerbilSoft: 48x48 actually is the correct resolution for a save file icon on Wii [2:16 AM] GerbilSoft: so that might be it`
7:12 PM
possible, but again i admit the fact that each frame is stored in a separate texture archive has me Suspicious
7:13 PM
the wii save icons i've encountered kept all the frames in one archive
7:13 PM
but of course if i'm wrong and that's right, i'm wrong and that's right
7:13 PM
anyone got a hardcopy of xenoblade to verify?
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 8:41 PM
Leftover copy?
8:41 PM
(of the save icon)
punk7890 1/24/2018 9:15 PM
hi
Revo 1/24/2018 10:20 PM
did you know if a certain ram variable is set, the debug ruby ROM will let you run really fast and through walls by holding R
10:20 PM
`gUnknown_020297ED`
10:20 PM
if this bool is ever set
Halfbit 1/24/2018 10:24 PM
Toys R Us was great before they started doing all the baby stuff
divingkxt 1/24/2018 10:49 PM
I mean, the baby stuff seemed logical, since babies loving flashing things,.
ゲームボーイ64 1/24/2018 10:51 PM
"flashing things"
10:51 PM
that could be taken in so many different ways
Halfbit 1/24/2018 10:52 PM
Ikr
10:54 PM
But yeah. Babies seem to be their primary focus more than 12-13 years ago (edited)
Δndrew P. 1/24/2018 11:23 PM
All the Toys R Uses here in Chicago closed
11:23 PM
Even in the suburbs
GerbilSoft 1/24/2018 11:48 PM
more like Toys Were Us
Revo 1/24/2018 11:49 PM
game freak, please...
11:49 PM
`void debug_sub_810CCEC(u8 taskId) { u8 string1[] = _("メール{STR_VAR_1}を　だれに　もたせる？"); u8 string2[] = _("000　{STR_VAR_1}"); ConvertIntToDecimalStringN(gStringVar1, gSpecialVar_0x8005, 1, 1); StringExpandPlaceholders(gStringVar4, string1); Menu_DisplayDialogueFrame(); Menu_PrintText(gStringVar4, 4, 15); StringCopy(gStringVar1, gSpeciesNames[SPECIES_NONE]); StringExpandPlaceholders(gStringVar4, string2); Menu_DrawStdWindowFrame(0, 0, 12, 3); Menu_PrintText(string2, 1, 1); // This should have been gStringVar4 gTasks[taskId].func = debug_sub_810CB50; }`
11:49 PM
they mistakenly printed the unexpanded string
11:49 PM
so the print wont work as its intended
11:50 PM
by chance it still works, because Menu_PrintText expands the placeholders
11:50 PM
but they're still idiots
divingkxt 1/24/2018 11:56 PM
I have to wonder how much their programmers code.
11:56 PM
If their code is this bad, I mean, holy shit, no wonder they didn't open source it.
11:56 PM
They don't want shit code on the web.
Revo 1/24/2018 11:57 PM
did i mention this before
11:57 PM
`void AddTextPrinterForMessage(bool8 allowSkippingDelayWithButtonPress) { void (*callback)(struct TextSubPrinter *, u16) = NULL; gTextFlags.flag_0 = allowSkippingDelayWithButtonPress; AddTextPrinterParameterized(0, 1, gStringVar4, GetPlayerTextSpeed(), callback, 2, 1, 3); } void AddTextPrinterForMessage_2(bool8 allowSkippingDelayWithButtonPress) { gTextFlags.flag_0 = allowSkippingDelayWithButtonPress; AddTextPrinterParameterized(0, 1, gStringVar4, GetPlayerTextSpeed(), NULL, 2, 1, 3); }`
11:57 PM
they had 2 copies of essentially the same function
11:58 PM
the asm is different because a register is loaded with 0 and passed to where NULL should be
11:58 PM
but when decompiled they're the same thing
11:58 PM
stupid GF is stupid
12:00 AM
the only thing i can think of is that one of them had ifdefs for assigning the callback and NULL was the else so instead of properly depreciating its use, they made a stubbed copy
12:00 AM
and just used that.
12:00 AM
but thats still dumb
12:00 AM
imo.
12:00 AM
thats the preprocessor making this code look, bad, though.
12:00 AM
because ultimately we're only matching the original preprocessor output
12:04 AM
so maybe it did make sense in GF's original code. don't know
12:05 AM
either way they're still dumb for not removing the first copy
12:05 AM
if that is the case
Revo 1/25/2018 12:25 AM
we know what old_charmap is for
12:25 AM
12:25 AM
this is a debug menu in german debug
12:26 AM
12:26 AM
12:26 AM
when applying old_charmap.bin, its the text overlay for that menu
divingkxt 1/25/2018 1:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Tf90baNkM Can someone verify if this is actually unused? Because I'm not 100% certain on this one.
CoolyX12
Sonic Colors Music - Green Hover United
1:55 AM
https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=23915&st=15&p=542286&#entry542286 Oh, here we go
Vivid Sound x Hybrid Colors: Sonic Colors Original Soundtrack
FMecha 1/25/2018 10:37 AM
does TCRF cover companion server-side unused things? someone just poked GT Sport's companion web site and found this https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gran-turismo-sport-general-discussion.337545/page-1307#post-12168729
Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion
Is there any way to report a player for cheating? I have just come across a player who used the Pitlane Glitch to steal a free win in Sport Mode and...
10:37 AM
it was how unused track logos were found back during GT5 days
Jill 1/25/2018 12:17 PM
Trying to figure out archive formats is frustrating. This format seems rather simple, it's just a list of filenames then a list of files. It seems like it should be so easy to figure out even for someone who's a beginner like me but this is proving to be a huge pain.
12:19 PM
I've managed to pull out 2 audio files from it (all the files in it are just WAVs, so they're really easy to identify) but that was by manually finding them in the archive. I have no idea how the file actually identifies start points and such for the files.
Revenant 1/25/2018 12:28 PM
is there anything like a total file count or file sizes present anywhere
Jill 1/25/2018 12:36 PM
I don't know how to tell. The file starts off with `53 50 50 4b`, "SPPK" identifying it as a Sprint PAK file. Then it's got some additional information between that and the first filename. I assume that this or at least part of it defines the number of files in the archive. After that comes the filenames, after each filename is some more information before the next. I'm not sure what purpose this information serves, I can only assume it's the filesize but I'm not positive. After all the filenames comes the actual files which start at 0x4200 in this particular file. (edited)
Revenant 1/25/2018 12:41 PM
i have seen archives that only stored file names and file sizes so to determine start offsets you basically have to add up the sizes of the previous files (and account for the number of files to know where the directory ends and the first file begins)
12:41 PM
so that might be the case here
Jill 1/25/2018 12:43 PM
Hmm, that's weird. The first file has a size of roughly `F7CA`, and following its entry in the filenames block is `F8CA`.
12:43 PM
No wait.
12:43 PM
Its size is`CAF7`
12:50 PM
I think I'm getting somewhere.
12:51 PM
Second file is followed by `84 80 01 00 F8 CA`, filesize is `01 80 84` (edited)
Revenant 1/25/2018 12:51 PM
the next `F8 CA` may be its starting point (after the directory) then
12:51 PM
if it's zero for the first file
Jill 1/25/2018 12:53 PM
Actually hold on, size is `01 80 83`. You need to subtract one it seems because otherwise it'll include a single byte from the next file. (edited)
12:55 PM
So the first file starts at 0x4200 and has a size of `CA F7`, then the next file starts at `01 0c f8` and has a size of `01 80 83`
Jill 1/25/2018 1:06 PM
`File 1: 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA F8 Start point: 0x4200 Size: CA F8 File 2: CA F8 00 01 80 84 Start point: 0x010CF8 Size: 01 80 83 File 3: 02 4B 7C 00 00 CE 58 00 Start point: 0x028D7C Size: CE 57`
1:08 PM
This is all I've got so far.
1:08 PM
So it seems that it does indeed rely on the previous file's size.
1:11 PM
So now the question is, what's the purpose of the numbers that come before the filesize?
Revenant 1/25/2018 1:12 PM
start point minus directory size?
Jill 1/25/2018 1:13 PM
The number that comes BEFORE each filesize seems to be the previous filesizes added together.
Revenant 1/25/2018 1:13 PM
where directory size = number of files * whatever
GerbilSoft 1/25/2018 1:13 PM
relative offset?
Jill 1/25/2018 1:14 PM
CAF8 + 018084 = 024B7C
1:14 PM
Which matches up.
Revenant 1/25/2018 1:14 PM
all three of them so far are just the start point minus 0x4200 which is what the first start point is
1:14 PM
and presumably 0x4200 can be calculated from the number of files if that's also stored somewhere
Jill 1/25/2018 1:15 PM
Before the filenames start is `00 42 00 00 6e 02 00 00`, or `00 00 02 6e 00 00 42 00`
1:16 PM
I assume one of these is file amount.
Revenant 1/25/2018 1:16 PM
well 0x4200 is also right there
Jill 1/25/2018 1:16 PM
Oh yeah.
Revenant 1/25/2018 1:16 PM
so you could also just read file info until you reach that offset
Jill 1/25/2018 1:16 PM
Lemme see if that matches up with a different PAK.
1:18 PM
Yeah, that seems to match up
1:19 PM
This other file starts with `00 00 00 28 00 00 04 71`
1:19 PM
Start point is 0x471.
1:21 PM
Yup, I didn't spot that at first because I was reading it the wrong way.
1:25 PM
So I assume that the other number is number of files? (edited)
Revenant 1/25/2018 1:29 PM
seems to be
Jill 1/25/2018 1:33 PM
So, choosing a file at random.
1:33 PM
`00 ef 06 58 00 01 cc 08 00`
1:34 PM
Start point is 0x4200, so add 4200 to ef0658 to get EF4845
1:34 PM
Which is indeed the correct start point for this file!
cyborg 1/25/2018 1:39 PM
Ooo
1:39 PM
~learning!~
Jill 1/25/2018 1:41 PM
Alright, so now I can locate and extract any file from these things manually.
1:42 PM
Unfortunately I don't know quickBMS or anything so I can't write anything to do it automatically but it's better than nothing.
Jill 1/25/2018 1:52 PM
I want to write all this up but I'm not sure what the ideal way to format it is. (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/25/2018 2:32 PM
@Jill >Trying to figure out archive formats is frustrating. cough cough ratchet and clank wads
Jill 1/25/2018 2:32 PM
I mean, in retrospective the one I was just doing was fairly simple.
2:33 PM
But this game also uses a second archive format, "STR" which seems to be a mess.
2:34 PM
Unfortunately the game also stores all the actually interesting stuff in those ones.
2:34 PM
I have absolutely no chance of figuring those ones out.
2:37 PM
It just looks like data. There's no filenames, file count, any of that stuff. Not even a magic number it seems (though I'm not an expert).
2:37 PM
Right off the bat it's just straight into files.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/25/2018 2:37 PM
The data on the RAC1 disc is stored in that way IIRC
Jill 1/25/2018 2:37 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/25/2018 2:38 PM
i know somebody who has worked with it but he isn't in the server
Jill 1/25/2018 2:40 PM
I tried my best to get into contact with the lead programmer to see if he'd be able to help out at all but it's ridiculously hard to find his contact info and he didn't respond when I did find something.
2:41 PM
Here is a another file with the SAME FORMAT.
2:41 PM
2:41 PM
Why does it start like that? Who knows.
2:47 PM
Oh cool I think this model format is plain text.
Laenthor 1/25/2018 3:32 PM
Heh, they used the mona lisa as a placeholder. Tis' cute
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/25/2018 3:34 PM
looks like a bootleg of the mona lisa lul
Laenthor 1/25/2018 3:34 PM
Might be because of the very low resolution and crushing it in half
Jill 1/25/2018 4:49 PM
She looks angry.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/25/2018 4:49 PM
Halfbit 1/25/2018 4:50 PM
Yup
Halfbit 1/25/2018 5:33 PM
So how is everyone?
CheetahPixie 1/25/2018 5:59 PM
@Jill That's padding.
5:59 PM
Probably to fill out addresses.
5:59 PM
But it's garbage data. Same as just nulls.
Deleted User 1/25/2018 6:01 PM
huh
6:01 PM
now that i think about it
6:01 PM
im gonna look in the Warau Salesman sega cd iso with a hex editor
CheetahPixie 1/25/2018 6:21 PM
It baffles me you don't recognize padding.
GerbilSoft 1/25/2018 6:23 PM
also might i recommend setting your hex editor to a width of 16 bytes
6:23 PM
that makes things a lot easier
Jill 1/25/2018 6:32 PM
@CheetahPixie Well, this is my first time trying to seriously figure out formats like this and this format is a mess.
CheetahPixie 1/25/2018 6:33 PM
kaitai struct
Deleted User 1/25/2018 6:42 PM
6:42 PM
jesus fuck look at those files
Laenthor 1/25/2018 6:51 PM
Pcm
Deleted User 1/25/2018 8:07 PM
@Hiccup sorry for disappearing, there's these files that don't follow the same naming convention. they start like "0_chara_enemyname_0" normal enemies, which are called "enemyname" basically (edited)
8:08 PM
the chara files have weird background environment textures as models also in there with it, you have to look for the specific one
8:08 PM
they also feature most unused content
divingkxt 1/25/2018 8:54 PM
@Deleted User Can those be opened in Audacity?
8:54 PM
Using the Raw Data import.
Deleted User 1/25/2018 9:01 PM
Yep.
9:02 PM
The largest file is the intro, which starts with the typical "Watashi was Moguro Fukozou, blablasbslasjfbwljbwevlvwjbv" gig the titular salesman gives,
9:02 PM
is over 256KB.
divingkxt 1/25/2018 9:06 PM
Ah, so this is that Laughing Salesman game on the Sega CD.
Δndrew P. 1/25/2018 9:07 PM
I use Looping Audio Converter
divingkxt 1/25/2018 9:07 PM
Probably wore out the poor lens because there's so much to stream.
Δndrew P. 1/25/2018 9:07 PM
It's like vgmstream but with an interface and conversion options to WAV, FLAC, etc.
9:08 PM
I have no idea about vice-versa though
9:08 PM
I tested PCM and it works with it. Yugioh Duelists of the Roses also uses .PCM for their music files (edited)
Δndrew P. 1/25/2018 9:17 PM
Unless the PCM made in that other game was made differently MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
CheetahPixie 1/25/2018 11:14 PM
@Deleted User that is audio
11:14 PM
why try to open them in a hex editor?
LinkingHeartZ 1/26/2018 12:29 AM
well, crap. I guess the PS4 title screen of Life is Strange: Before the Storm can't be used on the TCRF page because it has to be from the Windows version
12:30 AM
I know the page is for that version, but the title screens are nearly, if not, fully identical
Revenant 1/26/2018 12:30 AM
is the content similar enough that the article could just cover both versions
12:31 AM
(or is that even known at this point)
divingkxt 1/26/2018 12:31 AM
While it is possible a PS4 version has been dumped, it seems unlikely.
LinkingHeartZ 1/26/2018 12:32 AM
true...
12:36 AM
but it's not like the PS4 title screen will have a huge PS4 controller in the background. if there was, then I would see why my image would have to be changed
12:38 AM
I mean, I already see why it has to be changed, since it was captured on a PS4 Pro, but the title screens are pretty much identical
Deleted User 1/26/2018 12:49 AM
not possible to dump right now, the game is too new
12:50 AM
PS4 is limited to releases from basically Dec 2016 and earlier.
12:51 AM
Gravity Rush 2 is one of the latest games before the limit, and that was Jan 2017
Revenant 1/26/2018 12:53 AM
ok
divingkxt 1/26/2018 12:56 AM
So, at least three SNES games have "SNDDRVR REN AND STIMPY" hidden in their code.
12:56 AM
One of them is The Ren & Stimpy Show: Time Warp, unsurprisingly.
12:57 AM
The other two are SeaQuest DSV and Chavez II.
Revenant 1/26/2018 1:02 AM
https://github.com/TCRF/vgmid/blob/master/snes.cfg#L204
TCRF/vgmid
vgmid - C64 and SNES/SFC playroutine identity scanner
1:02 AM
(grep "SNDDRVR" by itself, you'll find a lot more)
1:04 AM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/j7i5hbj4sswnv05/sidid_snes.txt
punk7890 1/26/2018 1:34 AM
1:34 AM
1:34 AM
level select crashes
punk7890 1/26/2018 5:21 AM
nvm got it working
CheetahPixie 1/26/2018 5:31 AM
gg
punk7890 1/26/2018 6:32 AM
6:32 AM
whoops
ƒluƒƒу 1/26/2018 6:33 AM
damn
punk7890 1/26/2018 6:33 AM
changed the bg by accident (edited)
6:36 AM
6:36 AM
unused mode didn't get that quality assurance pass
cyborg 1/26/2018 6:40 AM
Nor was it spell checked, evidently
6:40 AM
What game is this, again?
punk7890 1/26/2018 6:41 AM
Mobile Light Force 2
cyborg 1/26/2018 6:41 AM
Ah
punk7890 1/26/2018 6:41 AM
It also looks like the entire dialog for the story mode was cut as well
6:42 AM
for the English release
6:42 AM
It's all here still so I wonder if the function to enable it in game is still here
Deleted User 1/26/2018 7:00 AM
so its fucking saying
7:00 AM
'hey turn your tv sideways"
7:05 AM
meanwhile i decided to look on Warau Salesman on the graphics
7:05 AM
barely anything interesting aside from the `GLOW IN THE DARK SALESMAN`
7:05 AM
Netscape Navigator 1/26/2018 8:27 AM
yeah it’s tate mode but you might damage your tv
8:27 AM
so only do it if you know it will be ok
8:27 AM
not our fault
Azure 1/26/2018 9:25 AM
Ikaruga has a sideways TV mode as well
9:25 AM
it's in the final game though (and I don't know if it has any warnings attached to it)
FMecha 1/26/2018 10:55 AM
Strikers 1945 PS2 ports?
10:55 AM
They have it IIRC
Nadir 1/26/2018 11:14 AM
Pretty sure most shmups made after 2000 or so have tate mode.
Revenant 1/26/2018 11:21 AM
downwell also has it (which is more of a vertical run-n-gun but i guess those qualify as shmups by some definition)
ゲームボーイ64 1/26/2018 12:01 PM
Sounds something like what namco did for namco museum
12:02 PM
They had vertical modes in the ps1 games but nowhere else if I'm not mistaken
Jill 1/26/2018 12:13 PM
Anyone ever heard of the "XVU" filetype? (edited)
12:16 PM
Seems to go with XPU files, might be some kind of shader from what I can tell? (edited)
punk7890 1/26/2018 8:04 PM
I couldn't find a proper EU release date for this page, is it ok to leave it as just released in 2003? https://tcrf.net/Mobile_Light_Force_2_(PlayStation_2)
Mobile Light Force 2 (PlayStation 2)
Revenant 1/26/2018 8:08 PM
sure
8:08 PM
year is fine if nothing more specific is available
Deleted User 1/26/2018 10:31 PM
10:31 PM
oh jesus christ
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/26/2018 10:33 PM
ゲームボーイ64 1/26/2018 10:34 PM
did they do that on puropse
GerbilSoft 1/26/2018 10:38 PM
bah
10:38 PM
i connected my IBM Model M 122-key
10:39 PM
still need to get used to the stupid layout
10:39 PM
it has ISO-style keys - small left shift, inverted-L enter
10:39 PM
some other keys are different compared to PC layouts, but they're mapped to the equivalent keys, so it doesn't matter because i touch type
10:39 PM
left shift and enter are a problem though
divingkxt 1/26/2018 10:43 PM
@Deleted User WindowsVista appears to be a young child.
10:43 PM
Doesn't excuse their shit edits.
Deleted User 1/26/2018 10:44 PM
hey im one too
10:44 PM
(if you consider 13 young at all)
divingkxt 1/26/2018 10:44 PM
13 is young, but not super young.
10:45 PM
WindowsVista is probably 9 if I had to guess.
Deleted User 1/26/2018 10:45 PM
i joined the majority of internet communities at the age of 10/11
10:45 PM
and even i could make overly correct grammar
ƒluƒƒу 1/26/2018 10:45 PM
i was ten when i joined my first, but it went exactly as poorly as you'd expect
10:45 PM
sure i typed with proper grammar and all that but i was still A Shit
Deleted User 1/26/2018 10:45 PM
literally EVERY message i posted in that time had a form of correct grammar, capitalization, etc.
10:46 PM
and if i had a typo
10:46 PM
i'd just steamroll that over
divingkxt 1/26/2018 10:46 PM
You're definitely more competent than most young kids I see online.
Deleted User 1/26/2018 10:46 PM
i didn't talk to you like i am right now
10:46 PM
it would rather be
ゲームボーイ64 1/26/2018 10:46 PM
I don't edit much because when I do I make it seem like everyone here is incompitent
Deleted User 1/26/2018 10:46 PM
"Yes, I in fact do agree with your statement to a extent."
ゲームボーイ64 1/26/2018 10:47 PM
I have correct grammar and all, but...
Revenant 1/26/2018 11:13 PM
i joined the community that spawned TCRF when i was 12
11:13 PM
needless to say i have basically wasted my life
CheetahPixie 1/26/2018 11:17 PM
@GerbilSoft get standardized
Zeether 1/26/2018 11:27 PM
I know what the "TILT" is for in the mobile light force 2 test menu
11:27 PM
it's for arcade games, if the machine is picked up and slammed or something it auto shuts off like how a pinball machine goes dead when you slam tilt it
punk7890 1/27/2018 12:01 AM
Ah neat. Thanks for clarifying. It was among the error message text so it makes sense.
divingkxt 1/27/2018 12:06 PM
brb
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/27/2018 12:09 PM
so has anyone managed to rip models from mario odyssey yet?
12:12 PM
Someone from another server posted this
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/27/2018 12:17 PM
the inner circlejerks probably have their methods
12:17 PM
good luck joining one
12:17 PM
though honestly you might be better off not bothering
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/27/2018 12:17 PM
secretive communities are honestly the worst
12:18 PM
Like when somebody discovered the debug menu in RAC1 but wanted to keep the method for enabling it a secret (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/27/2018 12:18 PM
its one thing to keep it a secret and i understand why people do that
12:18 PM
but to like brag you have something that others dont, its such shit
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/27/2018 12:19 PM
Or all the shit with the Ratchet and Clank prototypes being kept private
12:23 PM
There was a different person who straight up refused to make a tutorial on how to unlock all the weapons via cheat engine in the demo versions of RAC (edited)
Deleted User 1/27/2018 12:24 PM
It's sad when people do that
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/27/2018 12:25 PM
making tutorials is boring as fuck though
12:26 PM
i figure it was just a simple couple addresses he poked?
12:26 PM
couldnt he just have given those out instead?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/27/2018 12:27 PM
yeah that's what he refused to do iirc ^
12:27 PM
thankfully someone else made a tutorial
Nex 1/27/2018 1:08 PM
whats the fcking point of hiding such techniques, everyone can do it, its just a matter of time
Laenthor 1/27/2018 1:27 PM
Maybe they think they can get money out of their research
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/27/2018 1:29 PM
inb4 someone writes and publishes a 30+ page document on their discoveries for a college class or some shit (edited)
Nex 1/27/2018 1:33 PM
n1c3
ゲームボーイ64 1/27/2018 1:57 PM
that's mama luigi to you mario
Netscape Navigator 1/27/2018 2:07 PM
wheeze
Halfbit 1/27/2018 2:58 PM
That's beautiful
Deleted User 1/27/2018 6:56 PM
yeah the mario odyssey famous rip people are starting
6:56 PM
they said that they
6:56 PM
would release it after theyre done
LarryLemmy 1/27/2018 7:18 PM
If a game includes a sound file with sped up dialogue making it incomprehensible, would it be tcrf-worthy to slow it down and include it in a page?
Laenthor 1/27/2018 7:18 PM
I'm pretty sure that yes
CheetahPixie 1/27/2018 7:19 PM
@LarryLemmy No More Heroes?
LarryLemmy 1/27/2018 7:19 PM
No, something much more obscure
CheetahPixie 1/27/2018 7:20 PM
okay
7:20 PM
still yes
7:20 PM
although i think it's been done for nmh already
LarryLemmy 1/27/2018 7:24 PM
GerbilSoft 1/27/2018 7:26 PM
Or similarly, background music that becomes something completely different when sped up
7:27 PM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u1m6j38CDOc
SomeOrangeGuy
GameCube Main Menu (Sped up 16x)
cuba200611 1/27/2018 7:27 PM
FDS boot theme!
7:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_vTOZQLxY
LeleSocho
[CBP] Famicom Disk System Boot-up
Δndrew P. 1/27/2018 9:54 PM
the GameCube's BIOS uses sequenced music for its menu. I found this some time back in July, when I extracted sounds. They were in .ADP format surprisingly. I had to do this through hex editing by doing the copy-paste.
MusashiAA 1/27/2018 10:13 PM
but whens Wii BIOS and menu music rip
Sneaker 1/27/2018 10:42 PM
That makes sense though
10:42 PM
Small size for good quality
Δndrew P. 1/27/2018 11:27 PM
There's only like 7 sounds in the GC BIOS. 3 for sound effects (which are less than a second long ofc) and 4 for the instruments. There's one sound that sounds super strange, but in the BIOS (or the right term according to Nintendo is IPL) menu that sound, sounds super distorted. (edited)
11:27 PM
Only if i didnt turn my desktop off i would show you. Oh well, maybe tomorrow
11:29 PM
And the Wii Menu has like its menu music in a BRSAR in ghe WAD I think? It's just a stream file with loop points. (edited)
11:30 PM
Im not so sure though.
divingkxt 1/27/2018 11:30 PM
Air Combat has a bunch of untranslated text.
11:30 PM
Japanese, Shift JIS text in the US copy.
11:30 PM
0x800 in many of the executables.
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/27/2018 11:39 PM
Is Air Combat PlayStation version?
divingkxt 1/27/2018 11:41 PM
Yes.
Deleted User 1/28/2018 12:36 AM
Uhhh.....did not exprct that
divingkxt 1/28/2018 12:36 AM
Oh, the eBay auction vanished.
12:37 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-Famicom-Disk-System-Console-New-rubber-belt-NES-From-Japan-/222797067042
Nintendo Famicom Disk System Console New rubber belt NES From Japan
Famicom Disk System Console New rubber belt. Japan Version. 100% genuine Item. | eBay!
Deleted User 1/28/2018 12:38 AM
welp
divingkxt 1/28/2018 2:15 AM
http://milky.geocities.jp/shingata_kururinpa/harmfulpark_trick_j.html
2:15 AM
Trying to do this cheat, but it won't work here!
2:15 AM
Highlight the "Exit" option in the Options menu.
2:16 AM
Then press R1, R2, L1, L2, R1, L2, followed by Circle to access a Test Mode menu.
2:22 AM
Ah, works in one emu, but not another.
Incineroar 1/28/2018 2:41 AM
arthur! 1/28/2018 8:28 AM
Does anyone know if this asset actually makes an appearance in FEZ? I just unpacked a bunch of files and noticed it, but I don't recognize it
Drac 1/28/2018 8:32 AM
I don't think I've seen it
Deleted User 1/28/2018 9:41 AM
i was fiddling around with a pyro model and i noticed if you add the gib textures to the model you get a perfect beta pyro
9:41 AM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/28/2018 9:42 AM
Deleted User 1/28/2018 9:44 AM
i also tried it with the scout but sadly it doesnt work that good
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/28/2018 9:45 AM
It looks like a clothing mannequin you'd see at Jc Pennys or something (edited)
Deleted User 1/28/2018 9:45 AM
ye
9:46 AM
i wonder where i could find the rest of his gib textures
arthur! 1/28/2018 9:47 AM
Ah that FEZ picture is from an update that added a speedrun mode, so I think it is used
LarryLemmy 1/28/2018 10:23 AM
Going back to my question yesterday about sped up dialogue, would it place the page into the unused sounds category?
Deleted User 1/28/2018 10:24 AM
How about under Oddities?
Luminar 1/28/2018 10:27 AM
what kind of sped up dialogue?
10:27 AM
are you sure that you set the frequency to the correct value while extracting the audio from the game?
LarryLemmy 1/28/2018 10:29 AM
It was intentionally sped up
Luminar 1/28/2018 10:30 AM
well if it is not used in the game then it counts as unused sound I think
Deleted User 1/28/2018 10:40 AM
If I'm understanding correctly, it's a sound that's used in game, but you can slow it down to hear someone saying something, I think?
LarryLemmy 1/28/2018 10:41 AM
Yes
Deleted User 1/28/2018 10:42 AM
Kind of like the inverse of this: https://tcrf.net/GameCube#Main_Menu
GameCube
LarryLemmy 1/28/2018 10:43 AM
Yeah, I saw that unused sounds wasn't on that page so I assumed I shouldn't use it
Deleted User 1/28/2018 10:46 AM
If I were in the same boat, I'd be bold and go ahead, put it under a section called Oddities or Sound Oddities. That seems to be the place where used but odd stuff like that ends up.
LarryLemmy 1/28/2018 10:47 AM
It's more of an issue with the infobox and therefore categories
Deleted User 1/28/2018 10:50 AM
Ah sorry, didn't realize, I'd say don't say unused sounds in the info box unless there is an actual unused sound. That's my gut feeling anyway
10:50 AM
Out of curiosity, is there other unused stuff in this game?
10:51 AM
I meant to say, go ahead and put it in the article but don't count it as used sounds for the infobox
LarryLemmy 1/28/2018 10:52 AM
https://tcrf.net/Madeline_and_the_Magnificent_Puppet_Show
Madeline and the Magnificent Puppet Show
10:52 AM
There might be unused graphics that I'll look for later
Deleted User 1/28/2018 10:55 AM
Just listened to them, neat!
LinkingHeartZ 1/28/2018 11:17 AM
okay, I need some help with uploading images again. I was going to add the main menu for the Nintendo Switch to it's TCRF page, but I am having the same issue. Below is the image I'm trying to upload.
11:18 AM
could someone tell me what this means and what I have to do to fix/change it?
11:18 AM
could it be because the file types are different?
11:19 AM
oh god, it is. I should have looked into this more before looking like a dummy online
LinkingHeartZ 1/28/2018 11:26 AM
ugh I finally did it
Nex 1/28/2018 11:33 AM
Hiccup 1/28/2018 11:33 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 11:36 AM
did you convert that jpg to a png?
Hiccup 1/28/2018 11:40 AM
also, its probably best to upload a screenshot of a "stock" (unplayed) firmware. though I guess you'd need to delete all your software and friends to do that. Though maybe taking the SD card out would hide the downloaded software. (edited)
Deleted User 1/28/2018 11:41 AM
My first instinct is saying "Show the Switch in action", personally
11:41 AM
(AKA, Played on) (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 11:42 AM
games are preferred from first boot up
11:42 AM
so id say same for consoles too
Hiccup 1/28/2018 11:42 AM
I was thinking of being consistent with the wii and 3ds ones.
11:42 AM
but those come with "channels", unlike the switch.
Δndrew P. 1/28/2018 11:46 AM
So i just extracted the music from PaRappa the Rapper 2, and i converted them, and... who thought it would be a good idea to put all the original music streams at like 4x speed?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 11:47 AM
id assume it saves space if you just slow them down in software?
11:47 AM
kinda smart in a way
Δndrew P. 1/28/2018 11:47 AM
I mean yeah
11:48 AM
each song (in WP2 format) is usually 30-60MB, with apparently more than 2 channels. 2 maybe for the music, and i think 2 for the voices and sound effects?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 11:48 AM
its kinda similar to using a low bitrate to create a muffled sound from a radio or whatever
ゲームボーイ64 1/28/2018 11:48 AM
You mean sample rate
Deleted User 1/28/2018 11:49 AM
i like speeding up sounds to save memory
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 11:50 AM
im pretty sure its bit rate and not sample rate
Δndrew P. 1/28/2018 11:50 AM
this is what the original unaltered streams sound like. This is from level 1. ( i converted it to mp3 just for space) (edited)
11:53 AM
if i knew how to slow these down in audacity without changing the pitch (edited)
Hiccup 1/28/2018 12:12 PM
audacity has two options: change speed and change tempo
12:12 PM
one of those does what you want (forgot which)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 12:17 PM
i tried both but they sound like shit
12:17 PM
seems to be about a 50% speedup
12:17 PM
does hcs not have a proper rip?
Deleted User 1/28/2018 12:37 PM
yume kojo article:
12:37 PM
"Hmmm... To do: There could be some unused graphics other than the smiley face."
12:37 PM
WELL TIME TO GO PLAY THE GAME IN ITS NEAR ENTIRETY
divingkxt 1/28/2018 12:43 PM
Yeah, that article is pretty lackluster.
12:44 PM
We also need to gets the differences between Yume Kojo and SMB2/SMB2US up.
12:44 PM
Note, that I wrote SMB2/SMB2SUS to distinguish it from SMB2/SMB2(T)LL.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 12:45 PM
Super Mario USA
Deleted User 1/28/2018 12:51 PM
12:51 PM
"Throwing Shit at People: The Game"
MandL27 1/28/2018 12:52 PM
I usually just use "Super Mario USA" and "The Lost Levels" to avoid any possible confusion
Deleted User 1/28/2018 12:52 PM
It's so bizarre playing this game with the custom waveforms appearing in a "nes" game, and this is someone who barely played SMB2.
12:53 PM
Or the rest of the Mario games.
divingkxt 1/28/2018 12:53 PM
They're also in SMB3, though definitely rather quiet.
Deleted User 1/28/2018 12:57 PM
I've yet to see someone make a song composed of entirely just the PCM channel and the FDS's channel.
12:59 PM
12:59 PM
Fanfiction!
1
Deleted User 1/28/2018 1:08 PM
1:08 PM
"oof"
Δndrew P. 1/28/2018 1:08 PM
unless i import these to my iPhone and from there use GarageBand but that wastes too much time.
1:09 PM
wow discord thanks for the major lag
alan 1/28/2018 1:28 PM
wait about that switch menu pic
1:28 PM
1:28 PM
you guys talking about boot up from power on or...?
divingkxt 1/28/2018 1:32 PM
Boot up from power.
1:32 PM
I though there was a Switch logo that appeared upon booting the console.
1:33 PM
If that doesn't happen, then that menu is fine.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 1:33 PM
thats the policy?
GerbilSoft 1/28/2018 1:33 PM
there is
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 1:33 PM
man
GerbilSoft 1/28/2018 1:33 PM
it shows a Nintendo logo, then a Nintendo Switch logo
1:34 PM
also the switch's built-in screenshot feature uses JPEG
1:34 PM
iirc this was the case with Wii U and 3DS as well, and it was allowed on tcrf at least for a time because there was no other way to get screenshots unless you had capture hardware
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 1:35 PM
3DS at least has framebuffer dumping homebrew
1:35 PM
wish Wii U had too but no ones done it
GerbilSoft 1/28/2018 1:35 PM
it does now
1:35 PM
(3DS)
1:35 PM
it didn't back when miiverse was added
alan 1/28/2018 1:36 PM
i have an elgato game capture hd right here
1:36 PM
i can capture a pic of it if you guys would like
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 1:37 PM
is there a way to capture lossless images with a capture card
1:37 PM
idk if the bit rate somehow affects it
alan 1/28/2018 1:37 PM
bit rate might affect it
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 1:38 PM
i guess something like a datapath visionrgb is the only sure way to do it but idk
1:38 PM
that shit can capture consoles in their native resolution
1:38 PM
absolute beast
Laenthor 1/28/2018 1:39 PM
This is doki doki panic and not smb2USA
1:39 PM
thanks discord...
1:39 PM
I couldn't scroll down anymore and assumed I was at the bottom of the page
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 1:40 PM
another thing im wondering is if you capture a 4:2:0 console in 4:2:0, are you losing more color information compared to doing it in 4:4:4?
Hiccup 1/28/2018 1:45 PM
guidelines basically say "screen with title on or if that isn't possible - first gameplay screen"
1:45 PM
not clear if "gameplay screen" includes menus though
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 1:47 PM
i like how in xmen 2 clone wars the game starts up from boot and you have to beat the first stage to see the titlescreen
divingkxt 1/28/2018 1:51 PM
And the character is randomized too.
Deleted User 1/28/2018 2:10 PM
For the record, the "Switch Logo that shows on boot" is a one time thing. Otherwise, I think we'll need to wait for Homebrew before we can take a pic of the boot screen afterwards.
2:11 PM
... Without a phone taking a picture with a phone, at least.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/28/2018 2:12 PM
Can't someone just use a capture card?
Drac 1/28/2018 2:12 PM
alan 1/28/2018 2:13 PM
i asked but the question of the quality of the photo was brought up
Drac 1/28/2018 2:13 PM
Still better than a phone
Deleted User 1/28/2018 2:15 PM
That's true, I honestly hadn't thought of the capture card
alan 1/28/2018 2:15 PM
how about we just use phones for screenshots only from now on
Deleted User 1/28/2018 2:16 PM
Please no
2:16 PM
I genuinely just forgot that cap cards were things.
Drac 1/28/2018 2:17 PM
Sounds good Toshi
Hiccup 1/28/2018 2:19 PM
can HDMI captures actually be lossless? (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 2:21 PM
youd think what it being digital and all but i think its a bit complicated
alan 1/28/2018 2:21 PM
i could provide a sample screenshot
2:21 PM
this
Hiccup 1/28/2018 2:21 PM
we'd need to compare it with an "internal" screenshot
alan 1/28/2018 2:22 PM
frickle
Hiccup 1/28/2018 2:22 PM
newer playstations/xboxes can do lossless internal screenshots I think. might be a good comparison. (edited)
Drac 1/28/2018 2:22 PM
Also depends on capture settings I guess
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 2:23 PM
the 240p test suite could be interesting to try but im not sure if theres a version for a non-analog console
2:23 PM
maybe GC with GCVideo?
Deleted User 1/28/2018 2:24 PM
aaAAA HOLY ShIT
2:24 PM
GUYS LOOK
divingkxt 1/28/2018 2:26 PM
Two Mousers.
Deleted User 1/28/2018 2:27 PM
10 times the hell.
2:27 PM
5 times the lag.
Laenthor 1/28/2018 2:46 PM
My first mario game was actually mario advance on the gba (which is a port/remake of mario 2 USA)
2:47 PM
Then it was mario 64 ds
cuba200611 1/28/2018 2:49 PM
My first one was SMW in my cousin's SNES, and this was in the early-00s... (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/28/2018 3:51 PM
the 3DS one was so good because it only permitted shots from home menu
3:51 PM
amazing feature
LinkingHeartZ 1/28/2018 3:53 PM
okay, so I have no idea how I would get a boot screen image for the Switch besides using a capture device so yeah lol I'm dead
Hiccup 1/28/2018 3:54 PM
you could do in-game screenshots on 3DS if you waited 1 minute for miiverse to load and the game was supported
alan 1/28/2018 4:30 PM
then again
4:30 PM
whats miiverse anymore
ゲームボーイ64 1/28/2018 6:05 PM
dead
Δndrew P. 1/28/2018 6:30 PM
Miiverse has like 100+ unofficial clones now
6:32 PM
My original thought was that everyone would mass-move to Miitomo. I guess I was wrong.
divingkxt 1/28/2018 8:07 PM
Keep in mind that a good chunk of Wii users don't really know who Nintendo is.
8:07 PM
Or didn't. That's not a joke, btw.
8:10 PM
Many of them might play games still, but usually whatever is popular on the App Store.
Δndrew P. 1/28/2018 8:11 PM
Tbh
8:14 PM
Also, during the entire time I was in this server, I have not created an account on TCRF's site till now.
Δndrew P. 1/28/2018 9:03 PM
When attempting to play Dokodemo Issyo on pSX (psxfin), the game throws an Anti-Modchip/Piracy message during the middle of the PlayStation license screen. this scared me for like half a second But the game is still fully playable in ePSXe, since ePSXe skips the PlayStation OS when playing a game, no matter what BIOS version it is. (edited)
divingkxt 1/28/2018 9:12 PM
And that screen shows up incorrectly in pSXfin anyway.
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/28/2018 9:13 PM
That screen seems to glitch. usually Text is white.
ƒluƒƒу 1/28/2018 9:30 PM
i've had the exact same problem
9:30 PM
if you'd rather not use epsxe, try bizhawk
9:30 PM
it's not in the habit of triggering these termination warnings
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/29/2018 12:19 AM
http://d4.princess.ne.jp/multimedia/scph10000.html
12:21 AM
PS1 emulation on PS2 display also black text anti piracy screen.
ゲームボーイ64 1/29/2018 12:21 AM
is this via pcsx2?
12:22 AM
The ps1 on ps2 emulation
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/29/2018 12:27 AM
This page screenshot captured from PS2/scph10000.
ゲームボーイ64 1/29/2018 12:32 AM
you speak japanese? (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 1/29/2018 12:34 AM
yes.
ゲームボーイ64 1/29/2018 12:35 AM
cool.
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 12:38 AM
`[1:13 PM] Athena ユウリ マヤ: That screen seems to glitch. usually Text is white.`
12:38 AM
ok this makes a lot more sense
12:38 AM
in all the times i've triggered these in emulation it's always baffled me how they expect anyone to read the damn things (edited)
12:39 AM
admittedly i feel like the screen's got a higher rate of scaring pirates like myself straight when you have to strain to read the message yelling at you
12:40 AM
12:40 AM
it's always fun to have to strain my eyes to figure out what exactly i'm being yelled at for
leilei 1/29/2018 12:42 AM
what about mednafen?
ゲームボーイ64 1/29/2018 12:46 AM
what is it saying
12:46 AM
all I can make out is "software terminated"
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 12:46 AM
it should look like this
12:46 AM
12:46 AM
gotta hand it to them that's pretty ballsy
12:47 AM
a dob-yourself-in-for-piracy hotline?
12:47 AM
take THAT snes-era nintendo
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/29/2018 12:47 AM
i mean
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 12:47 AM
yeah i know, it's more of a general consumer help thing in case you got duped
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/29/2018 12:47 AM
i expect that actual pirates would have been like "curses, foiled again" and not called while the number is intended for people who somehow accidentally caused this to yes that
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 12:47 AM
but still, it's an amusing thought
12:48 AM
and it's fun to spin it as more aggressive than nintendo stopping short at just quoting the code for some american legislation at you
Incineroar 1/29/2018 1:04 AM
i should convert this unused Mario Odyssey audio and put it on TCRF
1:04 AM
but that requires me reboot into Windows ._.
Gamma 1/29/2018 1:10 AM
I'm heading to bed but I'd thought I'd share this
1:10 AM
https://i.imgur.com/AqD7y3r.png
1:10 AM
I'm working on a TWW editor with a friend of mine
1:10 AM
We finally got to the point where we can open the overworld without crashing
1:10 AM
And what do I find but an unused configuration for a second Big Octo + Fairy
1:10 AM
Or rather, plans for it
1:10 AM
This screenshot is in Link's Oasis
1:11 AM
The actual Great Fairy and Big Octo combo is at Two-Eye Reef
Incineroar 1/29/2018 1:14 AM
heh, neat find
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 1:17 AM
oh nice
Gamma 1/29/2018 1:17 AM
Funny thing is
1:17 AM
They dummied her out by just moving her to layer 11
1:17 AM
TWW has layers for objects, for story progression and night vs day
1:18 AM
Layer 11 is never loaded
1:18 AM
So she's never loaded and cannot spawn
Incineroar 1/29/2018 1:24 AM
what if that was just a mistake then?
1:24 AM
and the remake just decided to roll with it?
Gamma 1/29/2018 1:26 AM
No, I don't think it's a mistake
1:26 AM
She's still set up to spawn when the Big Octo dies
1:26 AM
She's just not loaded when it does
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 1:27 AM
out of curiosity, is wind waker set up in such a way that such object layers are annotated as to what they might contain
Gamma 1/29/2018 1:27 AM
No
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 1:27 AM
i mostly ask bc metroid prime is and some of those annotations are kinda amusing
Gamma 1/29/2018 1:27 AM
Yeah, I wish it was like that
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 1:27 AM
thought as much but i thought it was worth the inquiry
Gamma 1/29/2018 1:27 AM
All we get are numbers
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 1:30 AM
i think i know the feeling, if on a much lower level
1:30 AM
going from the gc/wii fire emblems, where everything is very clearly labeled in the guts
1:30 AM
to xenoblade, where everything...... isn't
1:30 AM
a rude awakening right there
Gamma 1/29/2018 1:33 AM
heh
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/29/2018 3:00 AM
funnily enough gamma
3:01 AM
i was reading the topic on jul about wind waker
3:01 AM
abahbob brings up that big octo and i think you replied that its unused
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/29/2018 3:09 AM
https://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?pid=423599
3:10 AM
though yeah why do they do this instead of just straight up deleting the actor
3:10 AM
in case they happen to need it or something
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 3:13 AM
just in case yanking out that particular thread happens to unstitch something else entirely?
CheetahPixie 1/29/2018 7:25 AM
@Incineroar why would nhat require windows
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 7:36 AM
the utility they use was built for windows, i assume
LarryLemmy 1/29/2018 8:55 AM
@divingkxt Just thought I'd point out on this page I used an URL shortener because the source template didn't like the full link for some reason. Fair enough that you don't think it should be used though https://tcrf.net/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_The_Phantom_Menace_(Windows)
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (Windows)
Incineroar 1/29/2018 10:12 AM
@CheetahPixie perhaps fb2k can convert to OGG by itself, I can't remember. 95% of my stuff I usually do in Windows so :/
10:12 AM
It was pretty late so I didn't bother checking
Bleo 1/29/2018 10:37 AM
this place is pretty neat
Bleo 1/29/2018 11:18 AM
oh cool, I just was checking the songs in fighterZ again to check if I missed any unused songs and I found an unused song I believe
11:18 AM
looks like it was for raid battle hm
11:18 AM
I'll check that out a bit more later
CheetahPixie 1/29/2018 11:39 AM
@Incineroar why not audacity?
Incineroar 1/29/2018 11:42 AM
it's installed on Windows, not sure if it has a Linux port, never looked into that
11:42 AM
...and i'm not thinking there is
11:42 AM
oh, it's cross-platform
11:42 AM
I always thought it was windows only
GerbilSoft 1/29/2018 12:19 PM
http://6abc.com/traffic/patco-train-hits-utility-pole-causes-rush-hour-havoc/3002203/ (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
PATCO train hits utility pole, causes rush hour havoc
A commuter train heading from New Jersey to Philadelphia hit a utility pole during the morning rush, halting service and leaving thousands of commuters scrambling to get to work.
CheetahPixie 1/29/2018 12:19 PM
@Incineroar audacity is open source, of course it runs on everything
Smoke 1/29/2018 2:45 PM
Spam: https://tcrf.net/User:BrigittePflaum5
User:BrigittePflaum5
Deleted User 1/29/2018 2:59 PM
PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
2:59 PM
"erection pills erectile dysfunction causes erectile dysfunction treatment Redacted because why the fuck would you try them " uhh bub dont you think that a site dedicated for unused content is the worst way to sell your weako dongo pills (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/29/2018 3:01 PM
1
3:01 PM
snoo PINGAS usual i see
Deleted User 1/29/2018 3:04 PM
that'd be like advertising yogurt in a bar
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/29/2018 3:05 PM
what if the yogurt had alcohol in it
Deleted User 1/29/2018 3:05 PM
it'd still be out of place
3:06 PM
you'd be a damn fool going "Hey! Buy my yogurt! It's full of natural additives! No GMOs!" out of nowhere in a bar
Hiccup 1/29/2018 3:13 PM
@LinkingHeartZ could you repost your switch menu screenshot in the original jpg format?
GerbilSoft 1/29/2018 3:23 PM
automated spambots are automated
Deleted User 1/29/2018 3:57 PM
and all spambots want you to buy shitty weako dongo pills
3:58 PM
that would probably make your weako dongo even more unresponsive
LarryLemmy 1/29/2018 4:12 PM
Erection pills spam makes me feel like I've gone back in time at least 10 years
Deleted User 1/29/2018 4:14 PM
infact i bet most of the fucking bots were this in a pasttime
4:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAcLViTHDOo
FIAT USA
Official 2015 FIAT 500X Super Bowl Commercial | The FIAT Blue Pill | #500X
Akaibu 1/29/2018 5:15 PM
umm, hi
Laenthor 1/29/2018 5:15 PM
Hello
Akaibu 1/29/2018 5:16 PM
just wondering if anyone dug up anything related to the "ghost girl" in pokemon x and y, even after like 4 years there seems to be little info on it
Laenthor 1/29/2018 5:17 PM
Umm, I know what you're talking about but I wouldn't be the person to answer that.
5:18 PM
I tried playing some pokemon games, but I get bored after a couple of hours
Akaibu 1/29/2018 5:18 PM
i would try to do a string dump myself but i frankly don't have the harddrive space for the rom and tools needed
Deleted User 1/29/2018 5:18 PM
my guess is that it's the Old Chateau of pokemon X and Y
5:19 PM
both have mysterious ghost people
Akaibu 1/29/2018 5:19 PM
this is the one i'm referring to
5:20 PM
also i wasn't aware of this but apparently she appears in omega ruby too
5:21 PM
maybe a certain Trainer ID is needed?
Laenthor 1/29/2018 5:21 PM
Is it an easter egg, because I'm pretty sure all events where you can meet it are scripted
Akaibu 1/29/2018 5:21 PM
i'm not sure
5:22 PM
i know there's a "hidden" text dialogue apparently related to it in some train section
Laenthor 1/29/2018 5:22 PM
As I've seen from a video talking about that ghost in X&Y it seems like some easter egg
5:22 PM
some encounters more obscure than others, but yeah a text dump whould reveal something
Deleted User 1/29/2018 5:22 PM
like I said, it's probably a nod to Old Chateau
5:23 PM
the latter having 2 ghost people with no identities
5:23 PM
5:23 PM
\
Akaibu 1/29/2018 5:34 PM
does anyone know a safe download for the x/y rom?
Deleted User 1/29/2018 5:36 PM
Since TCRF isn't the place for sharing pirated ROMs and so is Discord, I highly suggest you go rip the game yourselef.
5:36 PM
https://github.com/citra-emu/citra/wiki/Dumping-Game-Cartridges
citra-emu/citra
citra - A Nintendo 3DS Emulator
Incineroar 1/29/2018 5:36 PM
there was a video that explained how that ghost trick worked
Akaibu 1/29/2018 5:37 PM
if only i had my game still, or the console...
Laenthor 1/29/2018 5:38 PM
Or uh, just google "pokemon x rom" and you should eventually find something. I'm not sharing links or anything
Akaibu 1/29/2018 5:41 PM
i really don't get why people react the way you guys react the way you are now, like i understand why, but it's rather silly in any case
Smoke 1/29/2018 5:42 PM
?
Deleted User 1/29/2018 5:42 PM
The reason why we "RECT DHO WA WE AR NAO" is because 1. it's not so legal sharing ROMs that are unmodified or modded to a very small extent.
5:43 PM
If it's a mod for a ROM, then it should only contain the PATCH.
5:43 PM
In this case, we direct you to a page to rip the ROM yourself.
Akaibu 1/29/2018 5:44 PM
but 98/100 times it's the people who host the download that get in trouble, not the people downloading it
Revenant 1/29/2018 5:44 PM
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=13736
5:44 PM
let me direct you to TCRF's actual ROM sharing policy
Deleted User 1/29/2018 5:44 PM
Sup
5:44 PM
I forgot to mention that it doesn't directly apply to prototypes.
5:45 PM
Though I bet that some prototypes are so fucking huge that they probably won't be feasible for downloading.
Revenant 1/29/2018 5:48 PM
if people have an actual TCRF-related reason for sharing individual ROMs they are welcome to do so according to the guidelines i linked
Smoke 1/29/2018 5:48 PM
should that be put with the rules on discord then?
Deleted User 1/29/2018 5:48 PM
oof delayed post
Revenant 1/29/2018 5:48 PM
probably
5:48 PM
i mean it is >5 years old so the age cutoff could probably be changed but either way
MadkaT 1/29/2018 5:49 PM
Hello, anyone knows how to extract the sprites from Dance Revolution Arcade Games?
5:51 PM
I've seen some unused images in TCRF, but I don't know the tool/script used to get them
Jill 1/29/2018 6:08 PM
Hâlian (ping in replies) 1/29/2018 6:50 PM
@Revenant If that ages in real time (i.e. one year every year), then it would presently apply to anything released before December 3, 2000 (edited)
Revenant 1/29/2018 6:51 PM
i'll let xk make that call since it was their thread/guideline in the first place
6:51 PM
but i personally don't care about it all that strictly
LinkingHeartZ 1/29/2018 7:22 PM
@Hiccup once I get access to my Switch I will gladly replace the png image with a jpg
Deleted User 1/29/2018 7:35 PM
you know
7:35 PM
you can just PM the person a link or something (edited)
7:35 PM
it doesn't need to be posted here
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/29/2018 7:43 PM
^^^^^^
ƒluƒƒу 1/29/2018 8:10 PM
very quick very minor very dumb question
8:10 PM
https://tcrf.net/BS_F-Zero_Grand_Prix_2
8:10 PM
is there a reason this page is categorised as snes and not satellaview
divingkxt 1/29/2018 8:52 PM
@MadkaT If I recall, the graphics are largely the same as what PlayStation titles use for TIM files.
Pasta937 1/29/2018 9:58 PM
Got all of the Crash Team Racing images native!
9:59 PM
Native res
MadkaT 1/29/2018 10:23 PM
@divingkxt Yes, they are the same PSX format, but I don;t know what format is I've tried with various PSX image softwares but I only found the song bg's, the UI and other images are not found
divingkxt 1/29/2018 10:24 PM
Ah.
10:24 PM
Probably uncompressed, so TiledGGD maybe?
MadkaT 1/29/2018 10:25 PM
I will try it, I wanna check some old beatmania/ddr games that are not emulated
FMecha 1/30/2018 9:03 AM
I run the Ridge Racer Wikia and had to remove this pending verification - anyone with PAL ver. of Ridge Racer Type 4 can verify this? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/192363253135835136/389824057631178752/Oh_come_the_fuck_on_germoney.png
9:03 AM
(from /ovg/ discord)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 9:06 AM
how would the euro version provide any info on that
FMecha 1/30/2018 9:07 AM
From what it seems, it seems that one phrase have to be removed in PAL version
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 9:08 AM
where does it show up otherwise
FMecha 1/30/2018 9:09 AM
This is where the phrase is said
Nadir 1/30/2018 9:09 AM
Even though that practice was hardly exclusive to the Nazis. Japanese soldiers did it during the Bataan death march.
skeletonhugger 1/30/2018 9:34 AM
anyon here who has The Walking Dead Season 3 installed on their pc and never uninstalled it?
9:34 AM
https://telltale.com/community/discussion/118423/a-new-frontier-pause-menu-freezes-and-mysterious-debug-menu
A New Frontier pause menu freezes and mysterious debug menu
Hello, I recently bought The Walking Dead: A New Frontier, but I have a problem with weird bug. When I pause a game, it goes to pause menu and then freezes.
9:35 AM
I'm trying to find out how to get this to work, if my theory is right, newer/fresh installs lack a certain file that is needed to activate the debug screen (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 9:43 AM
9:44 AM
the lines the same in english but i guess they used some different term in german?
9:44 AM
now idk where the guys pullling this ban claim from
FMecha 1/30/2018 9:45 AM
What it does translate to?
skeletonhugger 1/30/2018 9:50 AM
"The results of our team in the last years have been extremely(?) miserable. (The) People say, that we dig our own grave"
9:50 AM
something like that
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 9:50 AM
!!!!!!
Nex 1/30/2018 9:52 AM
"The results of our team were in the past few years extremly miserable. The people say, that we dig our own grave."
9:53 AM
thats my take on it
9:54 AM
I'm in no way good enough in english to translate german properly
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 9:55 AM
main point is that they still did take the line 1:1 and didnt seem to get into any trouble with it
Nex 1/30/2018 9:55 AM
lmao
Drac 1/30/2018 10:15 AM
"People say we are digging our own grave." is better
10:16 AM
"dass" is obligatory in German but doesn't sound so good in English so you can omit it
Deleted User 1/30/2018 11:47 AM
Everything must go
11:47 AM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/psp-square-enix-silvers-more.22313/
11:49 AM
Open to offers.. bulk deals, trades etc
Meow 1/30/2018 11:52 AM
only shows logged in btw ^
Deleted User 1/30/2018 11:53 AM
Should be all the encouragement needed to check out your forum then huh
Meow 1/30/2018 11:54 AM
yup, it was hidden fully before but I made it so titles show to guests
11:55 AM
Wish I had cash that ape escape one sounds interesting
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 11:55 AM
everything?
Meow 1/30/2018 11:55 AM
na just the market
11:55 AM
and some link sections, rest is public
Deleted User 1/30/2018 11:55 AM
Ape escape is on eBay for £100 right now
Meow 1/30/2018 11:55 AM
well dev market
11:55 AM
I'm broke hah
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 11:55 AM
nah i meant comment above the link
Deleted User 1/30/2018 11:56 AM
Yeah... happy to negotiate on anything... something tickle your pickle?
11:56 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 11:56 AM
youre selling off your whole collection?
Deleted User 1/30/2018 11:56 AM
A lot of it yeah, priorities changing heh life and what not
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 11:56 AM
dang
Meow 1/30/2018 11:57 AM
I have dibs on anything nfs/sonic/burnout
Deleted User 1/30/2018 11:57 AM
Ha.. I occasionally get new stuff. Demon like I said dirt2 psp build should be in next lot
11:57 AM
But know you're not as interested in that
Meow 1/30/2018 11:58 AM
dirts not really my thing, and that's coming from me the guy who has unreleased dirt games
Deleted User 1/30/2018 11:58 AM
Nice lol congrats
11:59 AM
But yeah that's only a fraction of the stuff I have
11:59 AM
It'd take me a while to list everything...
12:00 PM
12:00 PM
Old pic..
Meow 1/30/2018 12:01 PM
i think this one's better
Deleted User 1/30/2018 12:01 PM
Haha hoarding my pics demon?
Meow 1/30/2018 12:01 PM
it's been in my downloads folder forever lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 12:02 PM
nice candles
Deleted User 1/30/2018 12:02 PM
Thanks,.. my mums
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 12:02 PM
the umd shrine
Deleted User 1/30/2018 12:03 PM
Haven't got the time to give it all the attention it deserves.. rather it go to someone who will appreciate it more
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 12:03 PM
but does such a person exist
Luminar 1/30/2018 12:04 PM
all of those are protos?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 12:04 PM
id assume trials too for stores and such
Deleted User 1/30/2018 12:05 PM
The bigger piles are test samples and pre prods
12:05 PM
I don't bother with promo copies
12:05 PM
The smaller piles are fpqa builds
12:05 PM
12:06 PM
Fpqa - first party quality assurance
12:06 PM
UCJP serial.... very rare.
12:06 PM
Although I would say that right
Meow 1/30/2018 12:08 PM
Deleted User 1/30/2018 12:09 PM
That one is dumped xD
12:09 PM
Not by me though
LuigiBlood 1/30/2018 2:23 PM
added one unused graphic in Sim City SNES page
2:24 PM
Because that's the only one I could find in any of the versions lol
2:24 PM
Game is pretty optimized in terms of space and unused content
CheetahPixie 1/30/2018 2:25 PM
great
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/30/2018 2:26 PM
ive never thought but is there some way you can ever tell youre done poking at a game
2:27 PM
that is to say, what is the most in-depth tcrf article there is
Hiccup 1/30/2018 2:37 PM
full disassembly available and looked through?
2:37 PM
some nes games have that
2:38 PM
super mario bros, super mario bros. 3 (though the latter has some stuff in the disassembly that isn't documented yet, I think) (@!registerkey PPLTOasT) (edited)
Laenthor 1/30/2018 2:56 PM
The harry potter games have so much unused stuff, both on the surface and inside (such as scripts, so much unused scripts!)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/30/2018 2:57 PM
I wish decompressing Ratchet and Clank wads was possible
Incineroar 1/30/2018 3:37 PM
looks like there's a bot on the loose
3:37 PM
http://tcrf.net/r.php?w=User%3AFranciscaMinton (edited)
r.php?w=User%3AFranciscaMinton
3:37 PM
gj chrome
CheetahPixie 1/30/2018 3:38 PM
mfw i live to see a bot get loose like a dog off its leash
alan 1/30/2018 3:38 PM
does he give Rocket League 64 Bit Crack For Mac
Meow 1/30/2018 3:39 PM
http://aluigi.altervista.org/bms/ratchet_and_clank.bms @CELL Broadband Engine 2006 idkif it does newer games etc
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/30/2018 3:40 PM
i'll try it when i get home
punk7890 1/30/2018 5:30 PM
hi
Smoke 1/30/2018 5:30 PM
hey
Revo 1/30/2018 5:56 PM
ok game freak
5:56 PM
whatever.
5:56 PM
`void sub_8098044(u8 taskId) { u32 word; struct Task *task = &gTasks[taskId]; LoadWordFromTwoHalfwords(&task->data[0], &word); // huh??? why does it load a word that never gets used??? DestroyTask(taskId); }`
punk7890 1/30/2018 6:49 PM
Question. Would it be fine if I increased the resolution of a PS2 game to 640x448 to take screenshots? This game natively is 512x512 which doesn't look all that good.
Deleted User 1/30/2018 6:50 PM
sure
6:51 PM
in some cases for PS1 games that used half-height resolutions, I think we used native screenshots and then modified them.
punk7890 1/30/2018 6:51 PM
alright
Deleted User 1/30/2018 6:52 PM
double height to hit a square resolution like your 512x512 and then squish to 384 height
6:52 PM
4:3
punk7890 1/30/2018 6:52 PM
there isn't much in this game anyways, think I just need about 2 shots
Deleted User 1/30/2018 6:52 PM
if it doesn't look horrible, just go with 640x448 I guess
punk7890 1/30/2018 6:53 PM
i'll upload 512 vs 640 in a sec
6:54 PM
6:54 PM
6:54 PM
first is native res
6:54 PM
second 640
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/30/2018 6:54 PM
why is it squished in this fashion video games
punk7890 1/30/2018 6:55 PM
first just kinda looks too squished for my liking
Deleted User 1/30/2018 6:56 PM
it's squished to cut down on rendering resolution
6:56 PM
takes less power than rendering 640
🌿 gay-ace mint leafs🐱 1/30/2018 6:57 PM
why is it squished instead of cropped were they expecting it to get stretched on the way to the screen? was that a reasonable thing to expect?
Deleted User 1/30/2018 6:57 PM
yes
6:57 PM
@punk7890 640 looks good
punk7890 1/30/2018 6:58 PM
了解
Deleted User 1/30/2018 6:58 PM
punk7890 1/30/2018 7:00 PM
looks like Krome Studios have all the same debug stuff in all their PS2 games
Deleted User 1/30/2018 7:00 PM
perfect
ゲームボーイ64 1/30/2018 7:01 PM
Sounds like fun
punk7890 1/30/2018 7:02 PM
Not too mention that Alfa System developed games seem to all have debug menus. Guess I'll have stuff to do for awhile when ever I get bored.
GerbilSoft 1/30/2018 7:06 PM
fwiw nonsquare pixels is very common on older devices (edited)
7:06 PM
As an example, NES renders 256x240
7:06 PM
But when you have a real NES connected to a 4:3 TV, you don't see bars on the sides
punk7890 1/30/2018 7:07 PM
doesn't seem too common in PS2 games. I've only seen it in PAL Krome Studio games (edited)
GerbilSoft 1/30/2018 7:07 PM
Probably used as a way to get somewhat better graphics without eating up all the vram
punk7890 1/30/2018 7:07 PM
think the general ps2 pal res is 548xsomething
punk7890 1/30/2018 7:16 PM
urg, thought I was done with this game but I keep finding debug stuff
7:22 PM
7:22 PM
whoops
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 1/30/2018 7:27 PM
2Tie 1/30/2018 8:20 PM
oh hum, nobody's documented name differences and unlock time differences in jsr/jgr
Vague Rant 1/30/2018 8:25 PM
Is that David Beckham.
divingkxt 1/30/2018 10:27 PM
How many Theme Park fans are in here?
10:27 PM
http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=38028
10:27 PM
Because...
10:27 PM
I tried looking into it, with not much for an article.
10:34 PM
I know it uses RNC compression for many of its resources.
Sneaker 1/30/2018 11:41 PM
Unfortunate Compression name
divingkxt 1/30/2018 11:46 PM
Rob Northern Compression btw.
leilei 1/31/2018 1:37 AM
there's also kgb compression
divingkxt 1/31/2018 1:43 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB_Archiver
KGB Archiver
KGB Archiver is a file archiver and data compression utility based on the PAQ6 compression algorithm. Written in Microsoft Visual C++ by Tomasz Pawlak, KGB Archiver is designed to achieve a very high compression ratio. As a consequence, the progr...
1:43 AM
;P
CheetahPixie 1/31/2018 1:47 AM
punk7890 1/31/2018 2:03 AM
2:03 AM
debug menu in some weird budget ps2 Japanese game
CheetahPixie 1/31/2018 2:07 AM
does it kill the bug in the background?
punk7890 1/31/2018 2:07 AM
probably an option for that somewhere
2:07 AM
can spawn enemies though
2:12 AM
ugh, too much debug in this game to document
punk7890 1/31/2018 2:28 AM
2:28 AM
camera placement tool
2:29 AM
has a windows-like cursor that you can move around and select stuff with
CheetahPixie 1/31/2018 2:31 AM
not really windows like but okay
!registerkey PPLTOasT 1/31/2018 3:56 AM
Borman 1/31/2018 8:30 AM
A lot of PS2 games run at a weird internal resolution. I run into that issue a lot when forcing a progressive output, it seems to give you the non-stretched image at that point so I have to go back in post and fix it for videos.
Luminar 1/31/2018 9:53 AM
Can you force progressive output on pcsx2?
Borman 1/31/2018 11:03 AM
Im pretty sure you can mess with the interlacing. I try not to use emulators when I can, especially for prototype stuff when Im not sure if its a bug of the game or the emulator.
Luminar 1/31/2018 11:06 AM
there are no settings to force progressive output but I heard that you can do it on ps2 by loading a homebrew app and selecting the forced interlacing before playing the game
11:06 AM
if that is true then it might work on pcsx2 too
Huks 1/31/2018 11:11 AM
There's a universal 480p hack that works for most games (edited)
11:11 AM
http://ps2wide.net/480p.html
Luminar 1/31/2018 11:16 AM
thanks I will check it
11:17 AM
the first jak game doesn't have progressive option
11:17 AM
the rest support it by default
Deleted User 1/31/2018 2:34 PM
Sup
leilei 1/31/2018 3:43 PM
psx games can have weird internal resolutions too
3:44 PM
though maybe for title screens on the wiki they can be 4:3'd appropriately?
3:44 PM
instead of like, some stretchy 1:1 texture rip on some of those games
3:45 PM
i know the painkiller article's title in the bob looks horrendous as it's a texture rip than a screen capture https://tcrf.net/Painkiller:_Black_Edition
Painkiller: Black Edition
Luminar 1/31/2018 3:45 PM
I managed to kinda patch the Jak 1 ELF file
3:45 PM
it is perfect
3:45 PM
but screenshots are stretched
3:46 PM
leilei 1/31/2018 3:46 PM
(other than the article addressing a SPECIAL late edition of the game, while mixing info of the initial release, etc. could use a reworking)
Luminar 1/31/2018 3:46 PM
software mode above, hardware mode below
3:46 PM
but the game runs smoothly, no more problems
3:47 PM
just like the ps3 version
leilei 1/31/2018 3:47 PM
well, there's a lack of shadow on that hardware one
Luminar 1/31/2018 3:47 PM
yeah ignore that, unrelated to the thing I did
3:47 PM
pcsx2 emulator is not perfect
leilei 1/31/2018 3:48 PM
it's why i only bother to play pcsx2 in software
3:48 PM
and it should be really encouraged to use software for tcrf captures anyhow
Luminar 1/31/2018 3:48 PM
I am using software mode for tcrf captures
leilei 1/31/2018 3:48 PM
like n64 captures on the site post-SoftGraphic/angrylion
Luminar 1/31/2018 3:49 PM
I have no idea how to fix the stretch issue, I should change the real rendering resolution or something? not sure (edited)
Video 1/31/2018 6:24 PM
never use google translate for anything on tcrf - here's why
GerbilSoft 1/31/2018 6:29 PM
Is it wrong?
6:29 PM
:vv
Deleted User 1/31/2018 6:42 PM
hey I don't really contribute to TCRF, I mainly just browse pages of games I like when I'm bored, but I think I found something for Banjo-Kazooie that isn't mentioned anywhere on the page. it was uploaded to YouTube around 7 years ago - it was found when someone was going through all the different sound samples ripped from the rom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E_Sbgs9LH0
DarkgreenOrange
Banjo-Kazooie hidden voice clip - "Steven Mayles"?
6:42 PM
it's kind of interesting - sounds like someone on the development team making fun of steven mayles (character designer) singing to the tune of mumbo's mountain
6:47 PM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/958849085796175874
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
@WinkySteve Are you able to talk about the story behind this? https://t.co/z2UcgNWA8V
6:47 PM
and now we wait
6:48 PM
i've actually asked grant kirkhope about it before! (he was in charge of the sound so i'm assuming he had to have had some hand in this little injoke of theirs) i'll see if i can dig it up but he passed the blame on to someone else (who also didn't want to take responsibility)
6:48 PM
lol
6:48 PM
classic grant
6:49 PM
i don't think steve mayles has ever commented on it
6:49 PM
yeah I'm honestly not expecting a response at all.
6:50 PM
a lot of devs just don't want to talk about stuff and that's fine
ゲームボーイ64 1/31/2018 7:31 PM
@Luminar i honestly don't recommend pcsx2 over a real ps2, but unless you do something special, you can't force progressive
7:32 PM
Though you can make the games look like they're progressive scan with some of the options
punk7890 1/31/2018 7:43 PM
hi
MadkaT 1/31/2018 8:05 PM
Anyone here knows to read/write from japanese?
8:06 PM
I need to transcript 2 images
Drac 1/31/2018 8:07 PM
depends what's it's written in
8:07 PM
I mean I can as long as it's not kanji
MadkaT 1/31/2018 8:08 PM
8:08 PM
8:08 PM
Those two images
Drac 1/31/2018 8:09 PM
Second one is something like "There isn't any data" (edited)
8:09 PM
First one is something about a memory card
MadkaT 1/31/2018 8:09 PM
Is a loading game message
Drac 1/31/2018 8:15 PM
First one is "Checking in progress. Please do not insert / withdraw the memory - card."
8:16 PM
Also edited my previous message, made a small mistake
MadkaT 1/31/2018 8:21 PM
Nice, thanks
punk7890 1/31/2018 9:17 PM
Has anyone played this game? https://tcrf.net/Vampire_Panic Found a debug menu in it that will take ages to document. I made that page for anyone wanting to document it more. Way too much for a single person to do.
Vampire Panic
divingkxt 1/31/2018 11:55 PM
First time I've heard of that game, honestly.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/1/2018 12:31 AM
punks a pro at digging up games no ones heard of
Luminar 2/1/2018 12:34 AM
Those options aren't good for all games
12:34 AM
I edited the ELF file to make it look good
Nex 2/1/2018 12:53 AM
Ik about vampire panic because it was bundeled with a berserk ps2 demo lol
punk7890 2/1/2018 1:00 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT The only reason why I've picked up these games is because Alfa System made them. So far I've encountered debug menus in all of their games I've looked at.
1:01 AM
@Nex Is it a different version than the final release? If so I could look at it and find its debug menu.
1:02 AM
I figured I may as well look at all PS2 Alfa System games.
Nex 2/1/2018 1:24 AM
Berserk or Vampire Panic?
1:25 AM
If you mean the Berserk Demo, it is different from the final
1:26 AM
Vampire panic is just the retail jap version, nothing special as far as I'm aware
punk7890 2/1/2018 1:45 AM
Vampire Panic, yeah. Bummer. Do you know what the SLPS number is?
1:46 AM
1:46 AM
I should probably stop finding debug menus for awhile.
Nex 2/1/2018 1:47 AM
And idk
1:48 AM
I don't have the disc atm (edited)
Deleted User 2/1/2018 2:28 AM
In case it helps, which it honestly probably won't... Here's all the results for `Berserk` in the PS2 Redump dat: https://hastebin.com/raw/udorekizek
Revo 2/1/2018 2:37 AM
`void ****ing_pointers;`
punk7890 2/1/2018 4:02 AM
tcrf seems to be down at the moment (edited)
4:05 AM
Also, the only VHS tapes I think I might still have are old anime
4:05 AM
No luck there I am afraid
4:05 AM
Never heard of it
leilei 2/1/2018 4:39 AM
apart from that one donkey kong country one, not really iirc
4:40 AM
i did toy around the idea of vhsing the snes back then (94ish), but never really bothered seriously doing it
4:41 AM
vcr tapes are just hbo free preview movies
4:47 AM
i think everyone has one
4:48 AM
i don't scan
4:49 AM
but yeah, that tape was a bit ubiquitous in late 94
4:49 AM
nintendo power subs get it
4:49 AM
and some stands were just giving them away
Deleted User 2/1/2018 5:52 AM
@Deleted User https://twitter.com/WinkySteve/status/958981011605475328
Steve Mayles (@WinkySteve)
@OtherEhm No. But you should know it was @grantkirkhope and his accomplice @mingellasfella
MysticSageJosh 2/1/2018 6:16 AM
I wish i could find some unused content in Jojo games, so far all we have is a page for Heritage for the future
6:21 AM
oh jeez i think tcrf is down
6:23 AM
probably had to do stuff
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 2/1/2018 9:26 AM
tcrf is down right?
9:26 AM
ok it is
9:27 AM
when it comes back on, does anyone want to add some stuff i found in SMM's rom + some kiosk oddities for me onto SMM's page? i'm bad at adding stuff
Deleted User 2/1/2018 10:26 AM
@Deleted User haha. Nice
Laenthor 2/1/2018 12:27 PM
https://tcrf.net/Harry_Potter_and_the_Sorcerer%27s_Stone_(Windows,_Mac_OS_Classic,_Mac_OS_X)#Unused_Models Should this section be in a subpage? It's starting to get lengthy. Is it also well doccumented enough to get featured someday?
LarryLemmy 2/1/2018 12:48 PM
I'd say yes
Laenthor 2/1/2018 12:48 PM
I mean when I come around to do the unused animations section will it be well doccumented enough XD As it is it's not complete
Revenant 2/1/2018 12:52 PM
feel free to put anything in a subpage if you think it's big enough to justify it
12:53 PM
as for being featured - it's possible, there's not really a minimum length for that or anything
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 2/1/2018 12:54 PM
i have a dump of super mario maker's kiosk rom, i'd like to make a subpage for the smm page but how and it doesn't have many changes so should i bother?
12:54 PM
it just removes stuff and is post-final
12:54 PM
and adds a gui or two for kiosk stuff
Revenant 2/1/2018 1:12 PM
i think demos have traditionally been included in the "proto" namespace even if they're post-final
1:12 PM
(i can't remember if there are any times when they haven't been)
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 2/1/2018 1:12 PM
there's a number for the text revision which is after the final
Revenant 2/1/2018 1:13 PM
actually i just remembered i put the Panel de Pon event demo in the main page, so i guess it could go either way
1:14 PM
if it's just a minor/promotional revision it might be fine to just put it on the main page somewhere
Deleted User 2/1/2018 1:14 PM
Evening
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 2/1/2018 1:15 PM
alright
Deleted User 2/1/2018 1:16 PM
https://youtu.be/QvwXVdON2ko
_ ExMajik
Crisis Core - Playing as Sephiroth?
Laenthor 2/1/2018 1:17 PM
If I organised a cards vs humanity online "hang-out", would some of you participate or should I not even bother?
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 2/1/2018 1:18 PM
i wouldn't
1:18 PM
anyway i'll do the SMM kiosk thing for the smm page when i feel like it
Deleted User 2/1/2018 1:19 PM
https://youtu.be/xWIKHhw__RQ
_ ExMajik
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII - Beta Intro
Stewie1.0 2/1/2018 1:23 PM
How were the sound effects ripped in Crash Team Racing?
Stewie1.0 2/1/2018 1:56 PM
Does anyone know?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 2:05 PM
try psound
Stewie1.0 2/1/2018 2:23 PM
That can open the hwl file?
Hiccup 2/1/2018 2:43 PM
@Revenant "i think demos have traditionally been included in the "proto" namespace even if they're post-final" I'm pretty sure that isn't the case... (edited)
Revenant 2/1/2018 2:48 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=demo&fulltext=Search&ns108=1&profile=advanced
2:48 PM
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2:48 PM
i know it was recommended at some point
2:49 PM
it doesn't particularly matter, just put it wherever it seems appropriate
Hiccup 2/1/2018 2:55 PM
I think those are all final though (edited)
2:56 PM
I remember a jul post where someone asked if demo could be covered, and xkeeper or bmf replied saying that they can, if they are pre-final...
2:57 PM
I don't think it really makes sense for post-final things to go in the proto namespace. (edited)
Xkeeper 2/1/2018 3:34 PM
they can go on a subpage if they were post-made demos
Laenthor 2/1/2018 4:26 PM
Is there a link to files tagged with delete?
4:27 PM
Or any tag for that matter. Just curious
Smoke 2/1/2018 4:29 PM
@Laenthor https://tcrf.net/Category:Cleanup
Category:Cleanup
Laenthor 2/1/2018 4:29 PM
Thanks
Laenthor 2/1/2018 4:39 PM
https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Link%27s_Awakening/Version_Differences#Cukeman_Dialogue Err are these tags needed? (also the french text Québlo is supposed to be Bloqué, was it like that in the game?)
Version Differences
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/1/2018 4:39 PM
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Mario_%26_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga
4:39 PM
so should this "proto" be moved to a subpage instead
old acc! inactive 2/1/2018 5:19 PM
ehh
5:19 PM
pokemon dp's demo has a proto page
5:20 PM
so i dont see anything wrong with this demo having its own
Trit 2/1/2018 5:22 PM
the dp demo was not a finished version of the game though
5:22 PM
iirc
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 5:29 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:Spring_Removed.jpg mmm that quality
File:Spring Removed.jpg
General Instrument CP1610 1979 2/1/2018 5:32 PM
looks great
Smoke 2/1/2018 5:33 PM
there's something odd about that
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 5:33 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:Hugging_the_Teddy_Bear.png nothing will ever be as bad as this
5:37 PM
someone will have to add this to the page for Spongebob Squarepants: Revenge of the Flying Dutchman
5:38 PM
for context, the Treedome level (and only the Treedome) contains bees in it. Underneath the lighthouse in Goo Lagoon, there's an out-of-bounds bee for some reason
Smoke 2/1/2018 5:38 PM
ew
5:38 PM
i hate bees in video games
5:39 PM
thanks animal crossing
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 5:39 PM
LarryLemmy 2/1/2018 5:39 PM
What about Mario Galaxy?
5:39 PM
Where you become one of them
Smoke 2/1/2018 5:40 PM
never played it
Revo 2/1/2018 5:42 PM
i cant beelieve there is a bee movie video game
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5:42 PM
Trit 2/1/2018 5:43 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOT-FOR-RESALE-Nintendo-Game-Boy-Pokemon-Gold-Version-DEMO/162872423716?hash=item25ebf3f524:g:GoAAAOSwMGVaa7Yc has to be fake
NOT FOR RESALE Nintendo Game Boy Pokemon Gold Version DEMO
Nintendo Game Boy Pokemon Gold Version - NOT FOR RESALE - DEMO. Cosmetically it looks like someone may have put a sticker on the back but this does not impact play. | eBay!
Huks 2/1/2018 5:44 PM
The Bee Movie game was developed by Beenox
Revo 2/1/2018 5:46 PM
@Trit i dont know, actually. the not for sale pattern is the same as the rest of the cart
5:46 PM
look carefully at the dots
5:47 PM
then again there's artifacting around it, but that could be because they took a photo
5:47 PM
i would demand more info
LarryLemmy 2/1/2018 5:49 PM
Assuming it is fake, what might the game actually be?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/1/2018 5:49 PM
its just a same as retail copy
Revo 2/1/2018 5:51 PM
the seller has had 2019 auctions, because of the # of stars
5:51 PM
i would bite. but there's a chance its just a retail copy for pre-release previews
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/1/2018 5:51 PM
it is
5:52 PM
those've been dumped before
Trit 2/1/2018 7:29 PM
who stole my emote
7:29 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 7:30 PM
Trit 2/1/2018 7:53 PM
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Trit 2/1/2018 8:36 PM
LarryLemmy 2/1/2018 8:45 PM
Does anyone remember games like Math Blaster and Reading Blaster? I'm planning on looking through a few of those games
Trit 2/1/2018 8:47 PM
imagine expanding to flash games.
divingkxt 2/1/2018 8:49 PM
@Trit Already done that.
Revo 2/1/2018 8:49 PM
compiling pokeruby in Visual Studio
8:49 PM
`1>tools/preproc/preproc data/roulette.s charmap.txt | /c/devkitPro/devkitARM/bin/arm-none-eabi-cpp -I include | /c/devkitPro/devkitARM/bin/arm-none-eabi-as -mcpu=arm7tdmi -I include --defsym RUBY=1 --defsym REVISION=0 --defsym ENGLISH=1 -o build/ruby/data/roulette.o 1>tools/preproc/preproc build/ruby/src/scene/intro.i charmap.txt | tools/agbcc/bin/agbcc -mthumb-interwork -Wimplicit -Wparentheses -Wunused -Werror -O2 -fhex-asm -o build/ruby/src/scene/intro.s 1>tools/preproc/preproc build/ruby/src/pokemon/pokemon_storage_system_4.i charmap.txt | tools/agbcc/bin/agbcc -mthumb-interwork -Wimplicit -Wparentheses -Wunused -Werror -O2 -fhex-asm -o build/ruby/src/pokemon/pokemon_storage_system_4.s 1>cd build/ruby && /c/devkitPro/devkitARM/bin/arm-none-eabi-ld -T ld_script.ld -Map ../../pokeruby.map ../../tools/agbcc/lib/libgcc.a ../../tools/agbcc/lib/libc.a -o ../../pokeruby.elf 1>/c/devkitPro/devkitARM/bin/arm-none-eabi-objcopy -O binary --gap-fill 0xFF --pad-to 0x9000000 pokeruby.elf pokeruby.gba 1>pokeruby.gba: OK ========== Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========`
divingkxt 2/1/2018 8:49 PM
https://tcrf.net/Alien_Hominid_(Adobe_Flash)
Alien Hominid (Adobe Flash)
Revo 2/1/2018 8:49 PM
feels good man.
divingkxt 2/1/2018 8:49 PM
Remember this oldie?
Revo 2/1/2018 8:49 PM
i prefer cygwin, but i wanted to do it just cause
8:49 PM
yeah i do
divingkxt 2/1/2018 8:50 PM
So, the color vanished from the article expansions/decreases in the Recent Changes page.
Trit 2/1/2018 8:51 PM
oh yeah i remember seeing learn to fly 3 on the site too.
divingkxt 2/1/2018 8:53 PM
https://tcrf.net/Learn_to_Fly_3
Learn to Fly 3
8:53 PM
Right here.
8:53 PM
So yeah, Flash games aren't new to us.
8:54 PM
It's just that a lot of them came from one dev and someone mined the heck out of them.
9:00 PM
https://twitter.com/rom_txt/status/956622287389777921
ROM TXT (@rom_txt)
"Just when you thought you had it all..." Note : These images run on Magic Engine and HU6280. However, they

- #ltonma (TurboGrafx 16)

9:01 PM
Uh oh. Altered ROM alert.
Trit 2/1/2018 9:03 PM
is that literally just a twitter bot that dumps rom contents every 4 hours
divingkxt 2/1/2018 9:19 PM
You bet.
Stewie1.0 2/1/2018 9:44 PM
R the XA files in Crash Team Racing encrypted or something?
GerbilSoft 2/1/2018 9:49 PM
XA files store extra data because they use CD-ROM/XA
9:49 PM
Not sure what the proper way to handle them is
Stewie1.0 2/1/2018 9:50 PM
Oh cuz they dont open in psound
ゲームボーイ64 2/1/2018 9:50 PM
use jpsxdec
9:51 PM
https://github.com/m35/jpsxdec/releases/tag/v0.99.7
m35/jpsxdec
jpsxdec - jPSXdec: cross-platform PlayStation 1 audio and video converter
Halfbit 2/1/2018 9:57 PM
@LarryLemmy I remember Writing Blaster and Reading Blaster
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CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 9:59 PM
i remember raft wars
Halfbit 2/1/2018 10:00 PM
I remember trying to rent WB at school and they wouldn’t let me and I threw a fit over it lol
Trit 2/1/2018 10:10 PM
i literally just got banned from a server for posting one time
10:10 PM
lol
divingkxt 2/1/2018 10:17 PM
That's one seizure-inducing emoji there.
Trit 2/1/2018 10:19 PM
maybe thats why i got banned
10:19 PM
Neth 2/1/2018 10:19 PM
It was probably the name of the emote
divingkxt 2/1/2018 10:19 PM
That too.
Trit 2/1/2018 10:20 PM
oh i diddnt even see that
10:20 PM
lmao
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 10:20 PM
Trit 2/1/2018 10:21 PM
10:21 PM
i was trying to add this to a server but it wont let me i guess its too big
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 10:22 PM
needs to be 256 kb or smaller
Trit 2/1/2018 10:23 PM
10:23 PM
let me try to compress it
Stewie1.0 2/1/2018 10:24 PM
I dont get the XA files at all. They're extracting separate wav files and r basically just really short sounds
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 10:24 PM
i'll take it to #deleted-channel
Trit 2/1/2018 10:25 PM
10:26 PM
got it down to 300 kb :/
ゲームボーイ64 2/1/2018 10:28 PM
@Stewie1.0 that's what the XA audio is
10:29 PM
bunches of audio streams extractable as wav
10:29 PM
as far as I know
Stewie1.0 2/1/2018 10:30 PM
Oh. Do they even make 1 entire song?
ゲームボーイ64 2/1/2018 10:30 PM
I don't know
10:30 PM
play them in order
Trit 2/1/2018 10:34 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 got it down to 249.27 kb hopefully it works lol
10:34 PM
oh wait i can make it 215
10:34 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/1/2018 10:35 PM
noice
Trit 2/1/2018 10:35 PM
10:37 PM
its too fast though
10:41 PM
10:41 PM
fixed
Δndrew P. 2/2/2018 9:46 AM
PaRappa the Rapper 1 (PS1, USA Ver.) still has the Japanese and JP-Kanji(?) font/spritesheet in each level, but remains unused.
9:46 AM
9:50 AM
And the same thing applies to localizations of Um Jammer Lammy as well.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/2/2018 9:55 AM
That’s neat
Δndrew P. 2/2/2018 10:00 AM
There's that, but there is no Japanese UI sprites for the menus.
Trit 2/2/2018 2:33 PM
Revenant 2/2/2018 2:37 PM
stop that
Dezent 2/2/2018 2:40 PM
He's having a seizure
2:40 PM
I'll fix this
2:40 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/2/2018 2:42 PM
We need to cut his corpus callosum
Dezent 2/2/2018 2:43 PM
I have no idea what that is, but yes, I agree
2:43 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/2/2018 2:47 PM
@Dezent it enables communication between the two halves of the brain some dude was having seizures nonstop so they cut the corpus callosum, and his seizures basically stopped i just learned about it in my anatomy class :P
Dezent 2/2/2018 2:48 PM
Dagnabit
2:48 PM
oooooooh
2:48 PM
Neat!
2:48 PM
but... does that mean it's not a job for the hammer?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/2/2018 2:50 PM
free lombotomies!
Dezent 2/2/2018 2:50 PM
Woo!
Deleted User 2/2/2018 3:04 PM
Evening
cuba200611 2/2/2018 3:14 PM
Afternoon here,
CheetahPixie 2/2/2018 3:38 PM
You two guys are not on the same side of the pond.
Deleted User 2/2/2018 3:43 PM
Uk here
CheetahPixie 2/2/2018 5:03 PM
yup
Trit 2/2/2018 5:32 PM
LarryLemmy 2/2/2018 5:48 PM
I've got an iso for a PC game which appears to have hidden files. Does anyone know how to make them visible?
Deleted User 2/2/2018 5:48 PM
!! I simply cannot believed it
5:48 PM
I've found this group
5:48 PM
Hi all!!
5:48 PM
I've been on Tcrf so long
5:48 PM
wanted to add some articles also, but got lazy
5:48 PM
also I have a feel that I was here before
punk7890 2/2/2018 5:59 PM
Hello
5:59 PM
@Δndrew P. That JP font might be also for a debug menu, who knows.
Δndrew P. 2/2/2018 6:06 PM
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Deleted User 2/2/2018 6:11 PM
обалдеть
Luminar 2/2/2018 6:12 PM
There are some general disc image programs that can display those hidden files as one big file called unknown data, like with ratchet and clank and sly
Deleted User 2/2/2018 6:13 PM
oh sorry
6:13 PM
posted in wrong channel LOL
6:13 PM
Really sorry, guys, I'll move it into offtopic
6:14 PM
Windirstat shows the "unknown data" block on mounted discs.
Luminar 2/2/2018 6:15 PM
Good you should try that @LarryLemmy . It is a good program.
LarryLemmy 2/2/2018 6:16 PM
Thank
Luminar 2/2/2018 6:17 PM
You will need to separate that block into files manually though
6:17 PM
I don't really have much experience with hidden files since files aren't hidden in jak games
leilei 2/2/2018 7:19 PM
pocket fighter still has the japanese dialogue voice data
7:19 PM
that's all i can think of off the top of my head
7:20 PM
otoh it's fortunate they didn't get actors for the english version
7:20 PM
don't need to hear sakura's ableist remark
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/2/2018 9:32 PM
https://www.models-resource.com/nintendo_switch/supermarioodyssey/
Trit 2/2/2018 10:17 PM
punk7890 2/2/2018 11:36 PM
Trit 2/2/2018 11:47 PM
divingkxt 2/3/2018 12:37 AM
Chill pills.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/3/2018 12:39 AM
wow many animation icons
Biscuiteer 2/3/2018 2:00 AM
you really like your animated gifs, don't cha?
Revo 2/3/2018 3:07 AM
so we experimented with pokeruby just now to see if this was doable
3:07 AM
3:07 AM
mode 7 ORAS flight
3:08 AM
https://github.com/camthesaxman/pokeruby/tree/soar
camthesaxman/pokeruby
pokeruby - Disassembly of Pokémon Ruby
ƒluƒƒу 2/3/2018 3:09 AM
oh wow
3:09 AM
very nice very nice
Deleted User 2/3/2018 8:46 AM
neat
Deleted User 2/3/2018 9:45 AM
Sup
ゲームボーイ64 2/3/2018 11:10 AM
Honestly
Laenthor 2/3/2018 11:20 AM
Is tcrf slow for anyone else?
Hiccup 2/3/2018 11:20 AM
me as well
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/3/2018 11:21 AM
yes, It is slow.
Laenthor 2/3/2018 11:27 AM
Should we contact xkeeper?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/3/2018 11:28 AM
@Xkeeper halp
Xkeeper 2/3/2018 11:29 AM
too sleepy I'll check soon
Ground Zero 2/3/2018 11:33 AM
hi
Dezent 2/3/2018 11:35 AM
No wonder Keeper is sleepy, they've been budgeting for the last 12h
divingkxt 2/3/2018 1:28 PM
Prince of Persia on DOS has some text from a demo.
1:28 PM
Not sure if it can be seen in said demo when you exit it.
1:28 PM
Assuming it survives.
Stewie1.0 2/3/2018 1:30 PM
Project Diva X HD was dumped (PS4) and this was found in the files
1:30 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/3/2018 1:32 PM
ps4 ripping (edited)
divingkxt 2/3/2018 1:50 PM
@Stewie1.0 I have to wonder how that model was ripped.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/3/2018 1:52 PM
Same
Stewie1.0 2/3/2018 1:55 PM
Well the game works just like the Vita version. The endians werent even swapped. Its still little endian
1:55 PM
And games that were on firmware 4.05 can be dumped
Deleted User 2/3/2018 2:33 PM
@Stewie1.0 is that Diva game you got earlier dump-able
2:34 PM
I'm still incredibly skeptical about it
Stewie1.0 2/3/2018 2:35 PM
Future Tone?
Smoke 2/3/2018 2:38 PM
oh
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:05 PM
oh wow you finally got a discord
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/3/2018 5:05 PM
hai
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:05 PM
too bad it is inactive af
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/3/2018 5:05 PM
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:06 PM
someone should put stuff in the bloodborne and doom pages (edited)
Nex 2/3/2018 5:07 PM
doom 2016 or doom
divingkxt 2/3/2018 5:07 PM
Doom 2016
Nex 2/3/2018 5:07 PM
true that
divingkxt 2/3/2018 5:07 PM
@LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong I take it you're not very good at hacking through games.
Nex 2/3/2018 5:07 PM
doom 2016 has a lot more discovered then on the page but the research is all over the place but this applies to quite some other tcrf articles if I remember correctly
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:08 PM
why would you take that
Nex 2/3/2018 5:09 PM
Deleted User 2/3/2018 5:09 PM
Good lord I need to play DOOM 4/2016, haha. I would love to poke at the game if I had played it first hand.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:09 PM
there are a page of pictures of the unused models from it on unseen64
Nex 2/3/2018 5:09 PM
dang I would love to play the original doom 4
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:09 PM
yeah it looks cool
Nex 2/3/2018 5:09 PM
gotta love urban maps
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:10 PM
a prototype build of wind waker might leak soon (edited)
divingkxt 2/3/2018 5:10 PM
I know one of the betas had a crap load of screenshots from the original Doom 4, but I'm not sure if this applies to the release version.
5:10 PM
@LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong Source? Because that one seems very fake.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:11 PM
https://assemblergames.com/threads/zelda-windwaker-proto.68016/page-4
Zelda windwaker proto
If you could be more wrong I'd give you a medal honestly. Modding to that degree is magnitudes more difficult than you think. I'm not saying it's...
5:12 PM
if its real it would be from 2002 tho so probably finished and plus wind waker never looked like it had any interesting unused stuff
divingkxt 2/3/2018 5:13 PM
5:13 PM
Here's the alleged disc.
5:13 PM
The final game is from 2002, but December 2002.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:13 PM
the person who has it sounds like they've been trying to find someone to dump it
5:14 PM
who cares about wind waker beta though
5:15 PM
twilight princess beta on the other hand would be the coolest thing to get a prototype
divingkxt 2/3/2018 5:15 PM
You'd be surprised. Wind Waker is popular still, though not as loved due to its graphical style.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:16 PM
well yeah its good it just never had much beta stuff that is known about
divingkxt 2/3/2018 5:16 PM
More importantly though, the OP in the thread only posts pictures of the title screen and doesn't go beyond that. The debug is also easily enabled in the retail build.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:17 PM
it would be cool if twilight princess 2004 leaked, i want that moblin
divingkxt 2/3/2018 5:17 PM
Yeah...
5:17 PM
Have you used a hex editor, by the way?
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:17 PM
the coolest zelda enemy
Trit 2/3/2018 5:18 PM
Just recreate it
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/3/2018 5:18 PM
Revo 2/3/2018 5:19 PM
would you say Doom 4 is better than 3?
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:19 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT what do you have in that folder?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/3/2018 5:20 PM
press screenshots and shit of all they released by their date
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:20 PM
that's a lot of gigabytes for 156 files
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/3/2018 5:20 PM
theres a couple vids of like 30 mb's there
5:21 PM
oh and the round table footage which is 750 mb
5:21 PM
if you like TP BETAS, then i highly recommend that video
Nex 2/3/2018 5:22 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:NexIsBack/TravelsBuild310107/Unused_Maps seriously, should I just record a video instead of 100 screenshots
Unused Maps
CheetahPixie 2/3/2018 5:22 PM
@Revo Yes. Even the alpha of Doom 3 is better than Doom 3.
divingkxt 2/3/2018 5:22 PM
@Trit Easier said than done because of the effort required for modelling.
Nex 2/3/2018 5:22 PM
the alpha is lit, a bit ago I edited the intro map to make it playable
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:23 PM
does breath of the wild really have no unused content? or has no one gotten around to looking into it
Nex 2/3/2018 5:24 PM
https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild what is this then
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:24 PM
images that were included in the game
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/3/2018 5:25 PM
define "unused" content
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:25 PM
actual models of stuff and not screenshots of unused content
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/3/2018 5:25 PM
Nex 2/3/2018 5:25 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/3/2018 5:25 PM
5:25 PM
wait what
5:26 PM
class A edit right here
5:26 PM
which id edit if i could somehow navigate tcrf
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/3/2018 5:28 PM
this area is actually in the game, it just has a blue filter over it and you explore it as wolf link
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/3/2018 5:28 PM
"BETA" forest be damned
5:28 PM
shits a whole another map which they removed
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/3/2018 5:55 PM
sorry bout that divingkatae
5:56 PM
actually i was planning to leave a bit of a snarky todo with the edit i was doing but the conflict was honestly better so i didnt bother
5:57 PM
i really wish nintendo would provide more detailed update details like they did with splatoon
5:57 PM
theres just so many speculative patches theyve apparently done which you can never be sure of so youd need some expert to re the executable rpx's or just test them really in-depth to make sure
5:58 PM
but thats such a hellish amount of work that no ones gonna do that
Deleted User 2/3/2018 6:17 PM
I totally would if I knew how to properly RE.
Stewie1.0 2/3/2018 7:55 PM
Actually PS4 pkgs r easier to dump now
7:55 PM
It happened just recently, but u have to be on 4.05
CheetahPixie 2/3/2018 9:20 PM
@Stewie1.0 macran's stuff?
GerbilSoft 2/3/2018 10:49 PM
fwiw i can dump NRs now
10:49 PM
:V
Meow 2/3/2018 11:02 PM
yay
11:02 PM
question is, got any?
11:02 PM
Only got 3 myself
GerbilSoft 2/3/2018 11:20 PM
i have wii menu changer
11:20 PM
that's it
11:20 PM
(well, that's an RVT-R but eh)
11:20 PM
also apparently
11:20 PM
deleting a game on RVT-H using the Flush button not only erases the bank table entry
11:20 PM
it wipes the first 16k
11:20 PM
this should be recoverable for wii games
Trit 2/4/2018 12:23 AM
You guys would know this. Is there any way to force update a Wii U, my sisters Wii U is stuck because of an update and can't finish because the game pad is broken.
12:25 AM
I know you can't though the console being that you can't see the Wii U game pad screen. But is there a different way to do it
12:27 AM
@ me with answer please as I'm gonna go sleep
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/4/2018 2:34 AM
Wizardry Xth 2 has more debug cheat menu.
2:35 AM
Perhaps Xth 1 also.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/4/2018 4:15 AM
I found more debug cheat menu on the Xth 2.
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punk7890 2/4/2018 8:11 AM
Nice work!
8:12 AM
Thanks for your Vampire Panic translations, by the way.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/4/2018 8:21 AM
No problem!
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/4/2018 10:11 AM
has anyone ever checked for unused stuff in links crossbow training? (edited)
Smoke 2/4/2018 10:14 AM
Larsenv, Dark Linkaël and GlitterBerri did
Stewie1.0 2/4/2018 10:24 AM
So last night I was looking through Project Diva X HD, and there's a shit ton of unused models the Vita version doesn't have
Hiccup 2/4/2018 10:38 AM
@LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong https://tcrf.net/Link%27s_Crossbow_Training
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/4/2018 10:41 AM
you know what one of the most bizzare changes in twilight princess is? how they removed the spikes from the dinoflos and got rid of the cool looking helmet, its weird that they kept the dinoflos but removed the spikes of all things that made it look cool.
thingy 2/4/2018 11:25 AM
Hi, i have found hidden files in an old version of the game "antichamber", does it belong to the wiki ? Should I make an article about antichamber ?
Hiccup 2/4/2018 11:31 AM
depends what the files are
11:31 AM
are they used?
thingy 2/4/2018 11:34 AM
Nope
11:34 AM
They are textures
Hiccup 2/4/2018 11:36 AM
Then it probably does belong on TCRF
thingy 2/4/2018 11:37 AM
Nice, is there a guide on how to make an article ?
Smoke 2/4/2018 11:37 AM
https://tcrf.net/Help:Contents/Getting_Started
Getting Started
thingy 2/4/2018 11:39 AM
There is a little detail, the hidden textures are in an old version of antichamber, it was called "hazard : the journey of life" back then, what should article title be then ? antichamber or hazard ?
Dezent 2/4/2018 11:47 AM
Thanks for the neck exercise
Smoke 2/4/2018 11:47 AM
np
11:47 AM
11:48 AM
RELPACE (edited)
Revenant 2/4/2018 11:49 AM
that's why they relpaced it
Smoke 2/4/2018 12:11 PM
Deleted User 2/4/2018 12:18 PM
@thingy tcrf.net/Proto:Antichamber
Revo 2/4/2018 12:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ICgb6aJ64
Cameron Hall
Soaring in the Sky - Pokemon Ruby (GBA)
12:22 PM
https://github.com/camthesaxman/pokeruby/tree/soar
camthesaxman/pokeruby
pokeruby - Disassembly of Pokémon Ruby
divingkxt 2/4/2018 1:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lfCBXuhFlQ
Wallenrod
Hype: the Time Quest - Master Code - Debug Mode
southmags4 2/4/2018 2:53 PM
2:53 PM
text changes depending on your discord light or dark theme
divingkxt 2/4/2018 2:54 PM
Because they split up the lines.
southmags4 2/4/2018 2:54 PM
ik
thingy 2/4/2018 2:54 PM
Are there actually people using the light theme ? wtf
southmags4 2/4/2018 2:54 PM
i always used the dark theem
2:54 PM
theme*
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/4/2018 2:54 PM
light theme is ebola
southmags4 2/4/2018 2:55 PM
it is
2:55 PM
also why can i talk in #rules ?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/4/2018 2:56 PM
2:56 PM
@southmags4 better?
Deleted User 2/4/2018 2:57 PM
I can't talk there anymore either @CELL Broadband Engine 2006 - So, better (edited)
southmags4 2/4/2018 2:57 PM
yes
2:57 PM
better
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/4/2018 2:57 PM
southmags4 2/4/2018 2:57 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/4/2018 2:59 PM
divingkxt 2/4/2018 3:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVowEKiNF_c
JUSXTREME96
Super Smash Bros Intro Nintendo 64 vs Nintendo Wii Virtual Console
3:07 PM
For the record, Left - Actual N64; Right - Wii VC
3:07 PM
Emulation is tricky for things like this.
divingkxt 2/4/2018 3:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl0efRJCUOE
PlayStation Museum
Pac-Man Ghost Zone - 2009 PlayStation Museum Cancelled Game of the Year
3:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKouaGJ4YFc
TheNumenFromPacLand
Pac man Ghost zone e3 1997 footage (RARE!)
divingkxt 2/4/2018 3:38 PM
http://www.drawrick.com/pmgzhome.html
3:39 PM
No dump of the game is available online, so it's not likely we'll cover this any time soon.
3:41 PM
Still, doesn't seem like much of this is left in any of Namco's other PS1 games,
3:41 PM
incuding those from Namco Hometek.
arthur! 2/4/2018 3:47 PM
Just found a debug function in Brawl that draws stage collisions to screen
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/4/2018 4:08 PM
Xkeeper 2/4/2018 5:37 PM
https://twitter.com/VanillaHoys/status/960281123539636225
Princesseuh (@VanillaHoys)
@CuttingRoomWiki Celeste has a fully-featured debug mode left in the game with a portrait viewer, map editor and most likely more. Pretty cool
Deleted User 2/4/2018 5:45 PM
2 pics attached to that tweet btw, for the curious
Andreelikes 2/4/2018 5:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFHaCcgNt4I
Andreepika13371337 (alt)
Pocket Monsters (SNES Bootleg) Unused Pikachu Animations?
divingkxt 2/4/2018 5:53 PM
Have you reached the game's ending?
5:53 PM
As for that 'dancing', it seems like a flinching anim.
LarryLemmy 2/4/2018 6:29 PM
Ah yes, the bootleg Pokemon game with anti-piracy features
divingkxt 2/4/2018 6:48 PM
Where's that from?
6:49 PM
I know it's a mock-up of the Donkey Kong Ongaku Asobi game that went unreleased, but was that using tiles from another game?
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/4/2018 7:29 PM
it's weird how the unicorn fountain from ocarina of time was in the game so late into development but there isn't any of it in the files
punk7890 2/4/2018 7:33 PM
There is. The beta fairy fountain fairy is.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/4/2018 7:33 PM
you mean the blue fairy?
7:34 PM
there isn't any reason to think that had anything to do with the unicorn fountain
punk7890 2/4/2018 7:56 PM
I thought there was an early trailer with that fairy in a unused fairy fountain? I could be remembering wrong.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/4/2018 8:10 PM
the blue fairy was in the same sort of fountain as the normal fairies, the unicorn fountain's layout was like the fountains in majoras mask
MysticSageJosh 2/5/2018 4:22 AM
i think the site is broken, it's complaining about adblock when i disabled both of mine
MysticSageJosh 2/5/2018 4:41 AM
i don't know why it does this
Drac 2/5/2018 4:42 AM
Happens to me all the time
MysticSageJosh 2/5/2018 4:42 AM
i paused ABP
4:42 AM
does the same thing
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/5/2018 4:44 AM
no happen to me. displays ad.
punk7890 2/5/2018 7:17 AM
Yeah. I've unblocked the site and it still doesn't show ads for me either.
CheetahPixie 2/5/2018 8:11 AM
@MysticSageJosh @Drac @punk7890 Ublock Origin.
punk7890 2/5/2018 8:27 AM
Yep, that's what I am using.
Deleted User 2/5/2018 8:45 AM
FF or Chrome has a built in "safe list" that autoblocks project wonderful or something
8:46 AM
idk if it's changed since i last checked, like half a year ago
8:48 AM
8:48 AM
this shit right here
8:48 AM
firefox
8:48 AM
the "basic" setting still blocks PJW
Deleted User 2/5/2018 11:55 AM
I think Disconnect.me is somewhat to blame there
GerbilSoft 2/5/2018 12:54 PM
quack
12:54 PM
tonight i'm going to install JiffyDOS on my C128DCR
12:54 PM
this'll be fun :V
12:55 PM
doing so requires disassembling the system, removing the C128 KERNAL and C1571 ROMs, and physically installing the JiffyDOS ROMs
Deleted User 2/5/2018 4:12 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152877049386
Ape Escape P2 Saru Get You SaruSaru Daisakusen Promo PSP Pre-Production UMD
Check out the photos, when you load the game you enter the main room in the photo with the characters, speaking to the girl loads a menu where you can choose a level to load. | eBay!
4:13 PM
Bump... cut price down a lot since I last posted
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/5/2018 4:53 PM
tfw BETA but no
Drac 2/5/2018 4:59 PM
justcamtro 2/5/2018 5:23 PM
hi
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/5/2018 5:37 PM
hi
justcamtro 2/5/2018 5:38 PM
how y'all doing
Halfbit 2/5/2018 5:38 PM
Good
Mold 2/5/2018 6:56 PM
doing butts
Deleted User 2/5/2018 6:59 PM
so uh
6:59 PM
apparently theres a discord for windows vista
6:59 PM
where is this discord
6:59 PM
like
6:59 PM
the app
Mold 2/5/2018 7:01 PM
the desktop app?
7:01 PM
i'm using the desktop app on W 10
7:01 PM
Unless I am misunderstanding something.
7:02 PM
It says it supports Windows 7 or higher. oh.
Deleted User 2/5/2018 7:02 PM
yeah apparently they stopped supporting vista because "performance issues"
7:02 PM
but
Mold 2/5/2018 7:02 PM
I guess Vista is below 7 but you could give it a shot.
Deleted User 2/5/2018 7:02 PM
i tried
7:02 PM
i might try the indev version
7:03 PM
funnily enough this thing can run windows 10
7:03 PM
if i had an installer
Incineroar 2/5/2018 8:59 PM
i'm using the browser client on XP, but the browser isn't nice
9:01 PM
it uses roughly half the RAM available, and with it being a 2GB system it's not pleasant
Meow 2/5/2018 9:01 PM
Why are you on XP???!?!?!?!
Incineroar 2/5/2018 9:01 PM
it's an old desktop in the basement
9:02 PM
i keep it for legacy dev purposes
Meow 2/5/2018 9:02 PM
Is it online?
Incineroar 2/5/2018 9:02 PM
rarely
9:02 PM
it's off most of the time
Meow 2/5/2018 9:02 PM
I wouldn't connect it as it's a security risk.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/5/2018 9:02 PM
one of these days i should destroy an xp virtual machine with viruses
Meow 2/5/2018 9:02 PM
offline is fine, I have an XP one myself but it'll never hit the net
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/5/2018 9:02 PM
but i'm worried about shit escaping
ゲームボーイ64 2/5/2018 9:02 PM
I run 2000 in a VM
9:02 PM
it's fun
Incineroar 2/5/2018 9:02 PM
i'm using the xp embedded hack to get security updates though
Meow 2/5/2018 9:03 PM
ohh
9:03 PM
Didn't know about that
Incineroar 2/5/2018 9:03 PM
yeah
9:03 PM
so it's stlil relatively secure
9:03 PM
but it won't be for much longer I'd imagine
9:03 PM
I know MS will eventually drop support altogether
9:03 PM
i also have an iMac G3 in the basement that I occasionally boot up
9:04 PM
considering it's a PPC computer, and with so very few people using 9.2.2 anymore, I can take it online safely due to the fact that viruses don't target it anymore
CheetahPixie 2/5/2018 10:07 PM
i have a performa 475
punk7890 2/5/2018 10:07 PM
Finished added these game's debug menus now. https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/960711317303705600
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Shikigami no Shiro: Nanayozuki Gensoukyoku debug menus. That's the last of the PS2 Shikigami games now. Like the other two games, it has level select, scene select, among others. Codes + info at TCRF: https://t.co/OWOJ6gIY37
10:07 PM
Pretty sure that's all of the PS2 ones.
divingkxt 2/5/2018 10:16 PM
Have you tried any of the Silent Hill games?
punk7890 2/5/2018 10:17 PM
Not yet. I'll look at them sometime probably this month.
divingkxt 2/5/2018 10:17 PM
OK.
punk7890 2/5/2018 10:18 PM
Found some in Fatal Frame with another user. The second game probably has some as well.
10:19 PM
I bet the rest of the Alfa System games on PS2 also have debug menus. Every one of them I've looked at so far have them, sometimes several.
GerbilSoft 2/5/2018 11:22 PM
...huh.
11:22 PM
installing JiffyDOS fixed all of the weird issues the 1571 was having in my 128D
11:22 PM
that seemingly doesn't make any sense
11:22 PM
mask ROM rot?!
11:26 PM
..okay still occasionally having issues
CheetahPixie 2/5/2018 11:45 PM
lol
GerbilSoft 2/5/2018 11:46 PM
probably need to clean the drive heads
11:46 PM
which is more difficult due to double-sided
Meow 2/6/2018 12:05 AM
Hey @GerbilSoft know anybody with the Sonic Adventure PNET leak? all links seem to be dead and I bet someone on retro has it.
12:05 AM
I'm trying to build an archive of all PNET leaks
12:05 AM
ゲームボーイ64 2/6/2018 12:06 AM
classic nba jam will always be the best
Meow 2/6/2018 12:06 AM
evening gb
ゲームボーイ64 2/6/2018 12:06 AM
hey (edited)
GerbilSoft 2/6/2018 12:06 AM
sonic adventure partnernet? no
12:07 AM
only one i remember leaking was S4
Meow 2/6/2018 12:07 AM
yeah it leaked back in 2010
12:07 AM
and same never knew about this one
12:08 AM
only option then is to spend 400 euros on a xenon xdk and 2 drives packed of XBLA PNET builds
ゲームボーイ64 2/6/2018 12:12 AM
@Demon#9230 I think I know why he calls himself the question now
12:12 AM
because it's a question as to why he's so damn persistent
GerbilSoft 2/6/2018 12:32 AM
to derp, or not to derp
12:32 AM
that is the question
punk7890 2/6/2018 1:03 AM
Take a derp.
z20kdc 2/6/2018 5:39 AM
Incineroar: you know, it should probably be illegal for them to gate away security updates that they have
AxelFrog 2/6/2018 8:37 AM
Welp, guess i should introduce myself Hi, i guess :P
8:40 AM
Anyways, i finally decided to join here since i always was interessed in cut content in games mainly Sonic Games hence why i currently made an entire playlist of video's scattered around Youtube that showcase stuff that was cut from Sonic Forces or that changed https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbkVl3j5owjXsxVCzlAM_62wOkrw15RFQ
Sonic Forces Beta Stuff - YouTube
8:41 AM
The Playlist includes a few things that were already addressed in TCRF tho
Dezent 2/6/2018 8:59 AM
hullo illias3k
Laenthor 2/6/2018 1:14 PM
I'm presenting tcrf for a web ergonomy presentation (we need to give 1 good example and 1 bad example), but I want to show that even though it's simple in design, it's still well navigable.
Xkeeper 2/6/2018 1:25 PM
it's basically just wikipedia
Netscape Navigator 2/6/2018 1:40 PM
but less homegrown nudes
Laenthor 2/6/2018 1:56 PM
nah I changed for something I had more to talk about
1:57 PM
https://cegepvicto.moodle.decclic.qc.ca/ I mean look at this disgusting piece of shit (it's 10x worse on mobile)
Xkeeper 2/6/2018 2:13 PM
so you changed from tcrf to something else, or
Laenthor 2/6/2018 2:19 PM
yeah I changed it to the steam mobile app
2:20 PM
Didn't know it had to be anything on a PHONE
2:20 PM
I wanted to use tcrf as a good example but on mobile it's not really optimised for anything
Xkeeper 2/6/2018 2:22 PM
yep, that's true
Revenant 2/6/2018 2:31 PM
tcrf mobile app when
2:31 PM
get a push notification any time somebody edits something
LarryLemmy 2/6/2018 2:32 PM
I tend to use desktop mode with wikis anyway because of the sheer amount of stuff that can't be seen in mobile version
Laenthor 2/6/2018 2:35 PM
Quick question: If I need to make a video for unused animations, should I keep a list describing every animation along with the video or would the video alone suffice?
Deleted User 2/6/2018 2:38 PM
@Laenthor do a pannkoek and have some text commentary (edited)
Laenthor 2/6/2018 2:38 PM
alright
2:39 PM
Skawo also does that and I took some inspiration from these guys for 3 videos I made.
Luminar 2/6/2018 2:40 PM
I tend to use desktop mode on phones if the mobile version of a site has limited functionality (edited)
Laenthor 2/6/2018 2:41 PM
Is there a mediawiki app on the apple/google play store? I'd use it perhaps
Deleted User 2/6/2018 2:54 PM
nope
2:54 PM
i have a android phone myself (edited)
Laenthor 2/6/2018 2:58 PM
ah, oh well
2:58 PM
There's a fandom wiki app though
thingy 2/6/2018 4:26 PM
How can I edit an image tag ?
Oddball Mac 2/6/2018 8:13 PM
I exist
Smoke 2/6/2018 8:14 PM
as do i
arthur! 2/6/2018 8:21 PM
preposterous
L95 2/6/2018 9:42 PM
hi
divingkxt 2/6/2018 9:48 PM
Hello.
Smoke 2/6/2018 9:48 PM
eyy
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/6/2018 10:18 PM
hello
cuba200611 2/6/2018 10:31 PM
Hello there.
10:32 PM
Currently watching someone stream Toaplan's Hellfire.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/6/2018 10:32 PM
GENERAL KENOBI
felineki 2/6/2018 11:57 PM
Remember the time the "Cool World series" category on the wiki was inceptioning into itself?
Dezent 2/6/2018 11:58 PM
So cool that it couldn't be contained under one category
Revenant 2/7/2018 12:17 AM
i'm not bad, i'm just categorized that way
12:17 AM
(wait, wrong movie)
divingkxt 2/7/2018 12:31 AM
Nah, this is the movie Ralph Bakshi wanted to be rated R, but an exec (who worked on the Godfather movies, no less) wanted it PG-13.
punk7890 2/7/2018 12:54 AM
I have a Cool World SNES game. I remember never beating it as a kid as I had no idea what to do.
Dezent 2/7/2018 1:02 AM
You should beat it now, just for cold time sakes
1:03 AM
(Pun intended)
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/7/2018 7:11 AM
https://twitter.com/BvqR_zxi5/status/833177373554024448
BvqR zxi5 (@BvqR_zxi5)
激闘！の内部データにV2の違法パーツの弾のデータがあった。残念ながら本体のデータは無い模様・・・。
7:12 AM
Custom Robo Arena has unused bullet model data. (edited)
Laenthor 2/7/2018 3:02 PM
oh
3:02 PM
lemme just fix that real quick XD
3:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_gEJzl8OA But I finally did this stupid video
Laenthor
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone PC - Unused Animations
Trit 2/7/2018 3:16 PM
harry potter
Incineroar 2/7/2018 3:42 PM
now that i'm on windows, i can finally get this tended to. i'll probably upload them later tonight
Trit 2/7/2018 3:46 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/310080/Hatoful_Boyfriend/
Hatoful Boyfriend
Congratulations! You’ve been accepted as the only human student at the prestigious St. PigeoNation’s Institute, a school for talented birds! Roam the halls and find love in between classes as a sophomore student at the world’s greatest pige...
Price
$9.99
Recommendations
5269
Metacritic
68
Deleted User 2/7/2018 5:03 PM
@Incineroar Wait what how did you extract that?!
Incineroar 2/7/2018 5:03 PM
it's available on the joshw archive
5:04 PM
i'll be uploading some content from it tonight here, there's one interesting one that isn't in the image
5:04 PM
(I should see if Droidsound-E has support for Switch files now...)
Deleted User 2/7/2018 5:07 PM
Ah, I was hoping that there was a breakthrough for extracting the stuff from the SMO XCI dump... (Also love your name and image, man!)
Trit 2/7/2018 5:10 PM
we should add runescape to tcrf
5:10 PM
Revenant 2/7/2018 5:10 PM
https://twitter.com/covell_chris/status/961038179124916224
Chris Covell (@covell_chris)
Satoru Iwata's possible nickname? The Famicom educational game「算数４年・けいさんゲーム」(4th-Grade Math Calculation Game) has a hidden sound test & credits screen. Press L R L R U R D R L at the title screen. 岩田聡さんのニックネーム？
Trit 2/7/2018 5:11 PM
considering runescape has been in development for 16 years theres surely a lot of shit in there
Foas 2/7/2018 5:17 PM
gsx suga might also be iwata, he was the programmer of HAL iirc
Revenant 2/7/2018 5:18 PM
i'm assuming that's hiroaki suga
5:18 PM
"He was usually credited under the name GSX Suga." yep
z20kdc 2/7/2018 6:03 PM
Trit: maybe poke people who've been around the code? (Runelite, OSBuddy, other OSRS clientmods...) (edited)
Trit 2/7/2018 6:05 PM
@z20kdc i have dumps of old rs revisions
6:07 PM
6:07 PM
just a small example of some of the stuff
6:08 PM
6:09 PM
6:13 PM
just looking at those i can see different icons from current old-school game already
Trit 2/7/2018 6:22 PM
@z20kdc
z20kdc 2/7/2018 6:23 PM
?
6:24 PM
Looks like the start of an extracted assets page to me. I don't know that much about RS, just barely enough to mention what I mentioned, so...
Trit 2/7/2018 6:42 PM
theres enough content by far with all the revisions runescape has had
6:42 PM
so many revisions have been dumped
6:44 PM
@z20kdc theres also hundreds of archived dev streams on twitch of them making content
Smoke 2/8/2018 9:44 AM
Is the site not working for anyone else?
Dezent 2/8/2018 9:47 AM
Nope, not working here either
Luminar 2/8/2018 10:31 AM
not working
Smoke 2/8/2018 10:36 AM
Ok now i know its not my phone
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/8/2018 11:01 AM
not working
11:03 AM
I did it! I found PS2 NUGA-CEL! debug menu. (edited)
11:03 AM
Laenthor 2/8/2018 12:12 PM
Site is not working and no one contacted xkeeper?
12:13 PM
@Xkeeper do you know about the issues with tcrf?
Sails 2/8/2018 12:24 PM
I'm making a replacement site called The Cutting Room Table, differences will be that it has a new logo
12:25 PM
12:25 PM
Boom
Revo 2/8/2018 12:27 PM
jokes on you i have a cutting room counter
Sails 2/8/2018 12:27 PM
12:30 PM
1
12:30 PM
Xkeeper is aware
Laenthor 2/8/2018 12:37 PM
Wait... it's down for good? Was there a backup made?
Deleted User 2/8/2018 12:45 PM
relax
12:45 PM
it will be back up
Dezent 2/8/2018 12:46 PM
wot
Laenthor 2/8/2018 12:48 PM
Ech XD
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 12:48 PM
I'm assuming I got access to this Discord server because of Patreon?
Laenthor 2/8/2018 12:49 PM
Nah it's not locked
Dezent 2/8/2018 12:49 PM
indeed
12:49 PM
I mean, look at me, I am just a shitposting doge
Laenthor 2/8/2018 12:49 PM
Idk maybe the rules changed
12:50 PM
But I'm in the cactus club because I give a whole 1$/month
12:50 PM
Yay cacti!
Dezent 2/8/2018 12:50 PM
Nah I am pretty sure this discord is still public
12:50 PM
The patreon is just something that's extra
12:50 PM
...which I would gladly donate to, if I wasn't a broke-ass student
2
2
2
12:51 PM
Cut / unused content, regardless of what game is always interesting to read about
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 12:56 PM
the discord is public, though there's some secret channels for TCRF Gold® members
old acc! inactive 2/8/2018 12:57 PM
i heard in the secret channels they're developing luma3ds for switch
12:57 PM
and making a cure for cancer (edited)
Laenthor 2/8/2018 12:57 PM
*cue
12:57 PM
I saw that
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 12:57 PM
"Luma3DS for Switch"
12:57 PM
wouldn't that be "LumaSwitch"
Drac 2/8/2018 12:57 PM
Secret dank meme channels
Laenthor 2/8/2018 12:58 PM
Young'uns with their "meymeys"
Dezent 2/8/2018 1:00 PM
Secret channels, you say?
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:01 PM
is TCRF down for anyone else or is just me?
augitesoul 2/8/2018 1:02 PM
It's down for everyone
Laenthor 2/8/2018 1:02 PM
Cause identified or not?
Dezent 2/8/2018 1:02 PM
Down forever, shit your pants and panic like fuck (not down forever, do not panic) (edited)
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:03 PM
okay
Laenthor 2/8/2018 1:03 PM
Thanks dezent for scaring the newcommers XD
Dezent 2/8/2018 1:03 PM
You're welcome :>
1:04 PM
fine, edited the message
Deleted User 2/8/2018 1:05 PM
What did I miss what?
Dezent 2/8/2018 1:05 PM
The TCRF site is just down
Xkeeper 2/8/2018 1:05 PM
one of those days
Deleted User 2/8/2018 1:06 PM
Oh okay
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 1:07 PM
Xkeeper 2/8/2018 1:07 PM
i've been doing important things like "sleeping" and "working" (don't tell anyone)
1:07 PM
i've sent a message to linode support because Shit Is Broke
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 1:07 PM
get back to work, peasant
1:07 PM
jk
Dezent 2/8/2018 1:07 PM
roke
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:07 PM
does anyone remember if FLUDD ever says "Leave it all to me! I will report if I see anything!" in Gelato Beach or Pinna Park? (edited)
Laenthor 2/8/2018 1:08 PM
I'd like to be able to answer but I never played mario sunshine
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:08 PM
alright, I asked in an SMS server
1:10 PM
so it's probably unused
Laenthor 2/8/2018 1:13 PM
That's nice
1:13 PM
Thought popular games like mario 64 and zelda had been datamined completely
1:14 PM
Glad to see there's still stuff to find.
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:14 PM
Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion are probably like 80-90% discovered. then again, who knows what else could be hiding?
Laenthor 2/8/2018 1:16 PM
The source code will be the last place we will be able to access. So much unused script potential.
1:16 PM
I mean I've been looking into harry potter games for a long while and I don't think I'm even halfway done.
Xkeeper 2/8/2018 1:19 PM
"datamined completely" is largely impossible unless you have a complete, comprehensive source package, and even then
1:19 PM
It's easy to spot things like text or graphics sometimes, but take e.g. SMB3's wild card; there's no text or graphics, just unused behavior you have to examine the code to see
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 1:21 PM
(╯°□°）╯︵
Deleted User 2/8/2018 1:22 PM
I've made significant discoveries in games nearly a decade after their release
1:23 PM
It's always good to revisit games even if it seems like there's nothing new to be found.
1:23 PM
If nothing else, you're guaranteed to gain experience
Smoke 2/8/2018 1:23 PM
+50 exp
Deleted User 2/8/2018 1:24 PM
Exactly
Luminar 2/8/2018 1:25 PM
well... jak and daxter will be 20 in a few years
1:26 PM
and it is still mostly undocumented
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:27 PM
@Deleted User I think that's most if not many people here
1:28 PM
you think everything has been found then all of sudden, BOOM!
Deleted User 2/8/2018 1:28 PM
Yep
Laenthor 2/8/2018 1:32 PM
Boom for me was when i discovered an unused level from a script
1:32 PM
That and a shitload of textures
Drac 2/8/2018 1:33 PM
I haven't discovered anything but I'd like to look at some data one day
Luminar 2/8/2018 1:34 PM
It is weird though that before me there wasn't really anyone who looked into the jak and daxter games. Even unused music was not found...
Laenthor 2/8/2018 1:34 PM
For me it's satisfying to be the 1st to discover something, well publically at least...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 1:34 PM
Same here @Luminar; not trying to brag but I did find a good chunk of the unused content on the RaC pages :P
Laenthor 2/8/2018 1:34 PM
"But one day the NPZMan attacked"
Luminar 2/8/2018 1:34 PM
for me it is satisfying to show unused stuff to people and tcrf is a good place for that
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1:35 PM
though it is not me who does the documentation on the wiki for the jak games
1:35 PM
but I am finding most content, except the unused maps (textures) and maybe some minor stuff (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 1:36 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 1:36 PM
oops (edited)
Drac 2/8/2018 1:37 PM
Is there a place that explains how to search for unused content and stuff?
1:37 PM
I get it's mostly knowledge and experience but still, some help would be nice
Luminar 2/8/2018 1:37 PM
I think the wiki has such a page (for generic extractors) but for more complicated games you might not be able to extract some stuff at all, unless you research it (edited)
Laenthor 2/8/2018 1:37 PM
You can ask around on the help page here to start
Drac 2/8/2018 1:38 PM
I wanted to take a look on tcrf but you know...
1:38 PM
rip
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 1:38 PM
if its something like Ratchet and Clank WAD files you're out of luck lmao
Luminar 2/8/2018 1:39 PM
or jak and daxter CGO/DGO files
1:39 PM
or jak and daxter STR files
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 1:39 PM
meanwhile, Toy Story 3 literally uses zip files
Luminar 2/8/2018 1:41 PM
one good tool is PixelDbg
1:41 PM
and PSound and ADPCM Player v1.44h for playstation games
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:42 PM
say is anyone here able to read small and kinda blurry text?
Sails 2/8/2018 1:42 PM
sometimes
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 1:43 PM
is it a coincidence that i took my eye exam last night
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SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:45 PM
1:45 PM
it seems to say "bsgeso" and then something illegible
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 1:46 PM
??gEEn
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:46 PM
almost looks likes "EDGE" (edited)
Drac 2/8/2018 1:47 PM
Open it in an image editor and play with contrast and other sliders
Sails 2/8/2018 1:54 PM
judging by the bevel of the text I would say that's an upside down texture
1:54 PM
how you have it makes it look like the light source on the letters is coming from underneath
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 1:58 PM
Yeah, I rotated it "upside down" to have bsgeso not upside down
2:02 PM
well I tried messing with the image and it's still illegible, even rotated. I just thought right now that it might say "kolk" since it's part of the model name
Laenthor 2/8/2018 2:14 PM
"korok" YAHAHAHA!
LarryLemmy 2/8/2018 2:23 PM
I thought it said keygen for a moment. And now I know what music I want to listen to
Deleted User 2/8/2018 4:18 PM
i found something unused -- the tcrf server
LarryLemmy 2/8/2018 4:28 PM
Is anyone able to translate this?
Xkeeper 2/8/2018 7:01 PM
https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor
7:01 PM
good news: at least there's a status page now
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/8/2018 7:04 PM
@LarryLemmy 見つけた人の、情報求む: Tell me information of discoverer. ポケモン研究所 Pokemon Laboratory.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 7:04 PM
you should put a link to the discord there as well
Xkeeper 2/8/2018 7:05 PM
done
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 7:05 PM
that was fast
7:07 PM
TO HELP YOU REMAIN TRANQUIL IN THE FACE OF ALMOST CERTAIN DEATH, SMOOTH JAZZ WILL BE DEPLOYED IN THREE
7:07 PM
TWO
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ONE
7:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPxVMpeVRGI
fdsman
Portal 2 - Smooth Jazz
Xkeeper 2/8/2018 7:33 PM
7:33 PM
weird
7:35 PM
it should be back up, hopefully this is the last of these dumb issues
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 7:36 PM
yeah, it is
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 7:40 PM
@everyone The site is back online. Resume normal operations
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emma ミ☆ 2/8/2018 7:40 PM
nice
Smoke 2/8/2018 7:40 PM
yay
alan 2/8/2018 7:40 PM
wonderful
Salt 2/8/2018 7:40 PM
YAY!
L95 2/8/2018 7:40 PM
✨
Meow 2/8/2018 7:40 PM
Not slow enough. Take it down for 5 months to beat Assembler.
7:40 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
Incineroar 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
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justcamtro 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
DevEd 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
at here reminder that global pings are gay
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
emma ミ☆ 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
can ping culture die already
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qqqq 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
who the fuck screenshots a meme from discord and crops it, incorrectly no less
mothsbee 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
good to know its back up tho
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
(╯°□°）╯︵ ǝuoʎɹǝʌǝ@
ƒluƒƒу 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
iunno in that case i feel like it's part of the joke
Incineroar 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
I found that one on twitter
ƒluƒƒу 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
like
Meow 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
https://www.neowin.net/news/source-code-for-ios-iboot-was-leaked-onto-github @GerbilSoft
Source code for iOS' iBoot was leaked onto GitHub
The iBoot software from Apple's iOS 9, has been released to the public. The release was leaked, presumably by someone at Apple, and has since been taken down from GitHub, but not before others got it.
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
saw
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
o wow
ShinyQuagsire 2/8/2018 7:41 PM
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 7:42 PM
..bah it was on github, should've gotten it
ƒluƒƒу 2/8/2018 7:42 PM
alerting everyone with @ everyone that using @ everyone is wrong
Meow 2/8/2018 7:42 PM
https://0xacab.org/sizeofcat/iBoot
size_t sizeof(cat) / iBoot
Source code for Apple iBoot.
7:42 PM
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 7:42 PM
o ok
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 7:42 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 7:42 PM
Alma 2/8/2018 7:43 PM
glad to see
inductor 2/8/2018 7:44 PM
tcrf still using nginx1.8.0 :c
Deleted User 2/8/2018 7:53 PM
epic ping
7:53 PM
i should try contribute to that wiki
7:59 PM
I was pinged?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 7:59 PM
Check the pins
Roomsaver 2/8/2018 8:30 PM
(jk i don't actually mind)
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 8:31 PM
i added a feature to my bot (which isn't in here) to automatically flip @ here and @ everyone :V
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 8:36 PM
ゲームボーイ64 2/8/2018 8:39 PM
pingas
Smoke 2/8/2018 9:00 PM
@SirenaBeach It looks like it says 2002 on the bottom right
9:01 PM
SirenaBeach 2/8/2018 9:18 PM
okay. and wow, I can't believe I never thought to... reverse color(?) the image
Smoke 2/8/2018 9:19 PM
i dont even know what i did, i tried to make it as clear as possible
CheetahPixie 2/8/2018 9:36 PM
kaitai pls
9:37 PM
that's how you extract foreign garbage (edited)
divingkxt 2/8/2018 9:37 PM
Oh right, Kaitai Collection.
9:37 PM
Since Flash is going the way of the dinosaur collection, someone should probably document all the unused stuff in that.
CheetahPixie 2/8/2018 9:37 PM
kaitai struct
divingkxt 2/8/2018 9:37 PM
I can't because that is only available in Japan. They block foreign IPs.
9:38 PM
http://kaitai.io/
punk7890 2/8/2018 9:54 PM
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leilei 2/8/2018 9:56 PM
is that battleborn
punk7890 2/8/2018 9:57 PM
It is this game: https://tcrf.net/Men_in_Black_II:_Alien_Escape_(PlayStation_2)
Men in Black II: Alien Escape (PlayStation 2)
divingkxt 2/8/2018 10:08 PM
Battleborn isn't on TCRF's CTE page even.
10:08 PM
CTE = Context To Expand
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 10:15 PM
unused HUD graphic in A Crack in Time
Smoke 2/8/2018 10:17 PM
BETA
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 10:17 PM
IDK how to export it
Smoke 2/8/2018 10:17 PM
right click on it and export as png
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 10:18 PM
its greyed out
punk7890 2/8/2018 10:18 PM
rip
Smoke 2/8/2018 10:18 PM
weird
10:18 PM
is the file read only or something (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 10:20 PM
no clue
divingkxt 2/8/2018 10:21 PM
It's under the sprites section,
10:22 PM
which does indeed grey out "export" regardless of what is selected.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 10:22 PM
how would I rip it then?
divingkxt 2/8/2018 10:22 PM
Open it up instead.
10:22 PM
Then right click on the sprite in the left bar,
10:22 PM
click on "Export Selection" and presto.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/8/2018 10:24 PM
10:24 PM
thxm8
ゲームボーイ64 2/8/2018 10:37 PM
SHHHH HE'LL COME BACK IF YOU MENTION IT
GerbilSoft 2/8/2018 10:40 PM
what, is it like beetlejuice
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/8/2018 10:46 PM
https://twitter.com/BTEST4HE/status/870237603584294913 Choro Q Works has debug mode.
マルヨン (@BTEST4HE)
今更だけどBTAHKAERAでワークスのデバッグメニューが開けました https://t.co/TehZIgUVAK
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punk7890 2/8/2018 10:46 PM
I think all the PS2 Choro Q games have debug menus
10:48 PM
I can't remember what site I saw them on, but it was a Japanese site.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/8/2018 10:48 PM
PS1 ChoroQ games also have debug mode.
punk7890 2/8/2018 10:48 PM
neat
Algo648 2/8/2018 10:50 PM
Pokémon snap tho
10:51 PM
Any progress on that
divingkxt 2/8/2018 10:58 PM
Not yet.
10:59 PM
Many of textures appear to be uncompressed at least.
10:59 PM
The only semi-interesting thing I was able to spot was an unused copyright statement that's partially deleted.
10:59 PM
There was also someone who attempted to figure out how the levels are laid out.
11:00 PM
Which is tricky because the levels appear to be hard modelled and the cart follows one fixed path at all times. (edited)
11:01 PM
The real trick is to figure out the coordinates for the cart when it first appears and where the devs placed each coordinate.
Algo648 2/8/2018 11:06 PM
I actually hadn't heard about that until now
11:06 PM
Is there anything new on the cut ghost levels?
divingkxt 2/8/2018 11:07 PM
Nope.
11:08 PM
The sound rip online doesn't have it and if it does exist in the game still, it's possible it doesn't even have a pointer.
11:09 PM
And because the textures are uncompressed inside the ROM, you can use something like PixelGGD to see that there's basically not a whole lot to find.
11:09 PM
You can find Pokemon textures and all, but no unused Pokemon or anything.
Algo648 2/8/2018 11:11 PM
Bleh, that's a shame. I'd thought with something as big as snap, there'd be a slew of things to find
divingkxt 2/8/2018 11:12 PM
Sometimes, devs do a really good job of cleaning and/or hiding their data.
Algo648 2/8/2018 11:12 PM
But of Pokémon snap of all places
divingkxt 2/8/2018 11:24 PM
Yeah, I know.
11:25 PM
But Pokemon Snap is a side game, so I'm not terribly concerned. The text for the Pokemon appears to be encrypted, but the rest of the text isn't strangely.
11:25 PM
i.e. the text seen when you snap pics of Pokemon.
punk7890 2/8/2018 11:38 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ I'll look at creating a debug menu enable code for NUGA-CEL! sometime soon for you.
11:39 PM
https://tcrf.net/Gakuen_Hetalia_Portable Heh, that's a funny save file icon
Gakuen Hetalia Portable
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/8/2018 11:41 PM
@punk7890 Thank you! I am also trying, but I don't found an unused memory area yet.
punk7890 2/8/2018 11:42 PM
No worries. I'll track it down.
11:45 PM
Have you played Osouji Sentai Clean Keeper H? I'll probably look at that as well since, generally, I look at the same developers who have had debug menus in their past games as well. (edited)
Neko May 2/8/2018 11:46 PM
Mmm. Debug menus.
11:46 PM
I also enjoy crash handler screens.
punk7890 2/8/2018 11:47 PM
speaking of crash handlers, I found a pretty lame one https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/961810898875596802
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Monster Rancher 3 crash debug screen. Not normally accessible, but I manged to hook up its function and crash the game to take the picture.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/8/2018 11:55 PM
@punk7890 I have not played Osouji Sentai Clean Keeper H yet.
SirenaBeach 2/9/2018 12:21 AM
this isn't working for me either: https://tcrf.net/File:SMSCool.ogg
File:SMSCool.ogg
divingkxt 2/9/2018 12:39 AM
Works for me in Firefox.
12:40 AM
If you want me to, I can add 0.25 secs of silence at the beginning and end.
12:42 AM
@SirenaBeach Try the version I got up.
punk7890 2/9/2018 1:00 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ Gonna look at the debug menu now
1:04 AM
101C69C4 00000001 will enable it when booting the game for the first time (edited)
SirenaBeach 2/9/2018 1:10 AM
yeah it works now
punk7890 2/9/2018 1:10 AM
I think the number of jumps that game has is 0x3FF
1:10 AM
lots to search if there is anything else unused, heh
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/9/2018 1:11 AM
wow! It worked! Thank you!
punk7890 2/9/2018 1:11 AM
No problem
1:12 AM
just change the 1 at the end to something else if you want to change the ID the game boots to
1:12 AM
101C69C4 0000xxxx
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/9/2018 1:13 AM
@punk7890 yes, Game script number is max 0x3FF. because Game data's file id is 10 bits.
punk7890 2/9/2018 1:14 AM
ah ok
1:14 AM
the table is at 0x018FA480 for those IDs if its of any interest
1:16 AM
here is a master code if you want to play with it on a console: 9010DC70 0C0436C4
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/9/2018 1:19 AM
@punk7890 NUGA-CEL!'s Game data pack(in the UNION folder. * .UNI) spec: 0x0000 - 0xA000 file address table each 4 bytes: file id: ( * v & 0x3ff) size: (*v >> 10) * 32 + 0xA000 0xA000 - data (edited)
1:19 AM
master code! Thank you!
punk7890 2/9/2018 1:21 AM
punk7890 2/9/2018 3:34 AM
oh boy a 21MB elf file in a PS2 game. I've never seen one that big before
3:34 AM
There has to be some goodies in here... lets see
3:36 AM
full assembler comments, nice
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/9/2018 3:38 AM
too big elf! I am surprised!
punk7890 2/9/2018 3:39 AM
yeah me too
3:39 AM
I hit gold though
3:39 AM
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3:40 AM
guess that's another page to make sometime
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/9/2018 4:04 AM
wow, PSP Motto NUGA-CEL! has also same debug menu.
z20kdc 2/9/2018 5:23 AM
...did someone ping me? because all I see is an at-everyone...
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Dezent 2/9/2018 5:24 AM
Check recent mentions panel?
punk7890 2/9/2018 7:00 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ What do you use for PSP debugging? I might try that out one day.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/9/2018 7:09 AM
@punk7890 I use PPSSPP's debugger.
punk7890 2/9/2018 7:29 AM
Ah ok, I'll try that out sometime
7:33 AM
hmm, I'm not sure how to search anything.
7:34 AM
At least, I don't see a search function in it.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/9/2018 7:40 AM
It don't have search feature. I use ps2dis or binary editor for searching.
7:44 AM
and I dump RAM, grasp the location of the text, and put a breakpoint on the memory write. because NUGA-CEL! and Motto NUGA-CEL! uses script. (edited)
punk7890 2/9/2018 8:41 AM
hmm it doesn't appear to work properly for me. I try searching references to the text in ps2dis but I can't find anything. Is there a guide to dumping? Maybe my dump is bad.
8:45 AM
I imagine there is some sort of base offset for proper cheats as well. I guess the functions aren't lining up properly.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/9/2018 8:53 AM
I use PPSSPP's memory viewer dump function for dump RAM. Right click and Select Dump... menu.
ゲームボーイ64 2/9/2018 9:48 AM
@punk7890#9947 I've seen a pretty big one in FFXI's US installation disc
GerbilSoft 2/9/2018 1:42 PM
http://gbatemp.net/threads/what-was-something-you-really-didnt-like-about-older-consoles-but-no-one-seems-to-mind-that-much.496293/page-3#post-7826972
What was something you REALLY didn't like about older consoles but no one seems to mind that much?
Being old
1:42 PM
i was unaware that Amiga and C64 were game consoles
Revo 2/9/2018 1:48 PM
`console2 [kon-sohl] Examples Word Origin noun 1. Also called game(s) console, gaming console, video-game console. a computer system specially made for playing video games by connecting it to a television or other display for video and sound. 2. the control or monitoring unit of a computer, containing the keyboard or keys, switches, etc. 3. a television, phonograph, or radio cabinet designed to stand on the floor rather than on a table or shelf. 4. a desklike structure containing the keyboards, pedals, etc., by means of which an organ is played. 5. a small cabinet standing on the floor and having doors. 6. console table. 7. the control unit of a mechanical, electrical, or electronic system: the console that controls a theater's lighting system.`
1:48 PM
`a computer system specially made for playing video games`
1:48 PM
i would say yes
Deleted User 2/9/2018 1:48 PM
Hello
Drac 2/9/2018 1:50 PM
Hi
Deleted User 2/9/2018 1:50 PM
How is everyone
Drac 2/9/2018 1:51 PM
Doing ok and you?
Deleted User 2/9/2018 1:51 PM
Doing fine
1:51 PM
Just joined this place and it seems nice
Waluigi 2/9/2018 1:52 PM
I goofed up, how do I remove a File that I uploaded to TCRF Wiki?
Deleted User 2/9/2018 2:06 PM
Edit Source and add the following tag:
2:06 PM
{{delete|<reason>}}
Waluigi 2/9/2018 2:12 PM
I had accidently uploaded a Flac recording of some unused music
2:12 PM
I meant to upload a .ogg copy
2:17 PM
I am also a Noob, how do I add a tag?
GerbilSoft 2/9/2018 2:37 PM
C64 and Amiga weren't specifically made for video games though
2:37 PM
</late>
Hiccup 2/9/2018 2:37 PM
by adding that text
2:37 PM
@Waluigi
2:37 PM
"{{tag}}"
Deleted User 2/9/2018 2:40 PM
Not to be rude but its best if you read the info about audio tagging and stuff before uploading
2:40 PM
It helps a lot
2:40 PM
https://tcrf.net/Help:Contents/Audio
Audio
Waluigi 2/9/2018 3:33 PM
I did read it But I guess that I missed it
Azure 2/9/2018 4:38 PM
does anyone know what that Super Metroid glitch is that makes you keep accelerating past terminal velocity?
4:38 PM
I can't find anything about it since I don't know what to search for
Laenthor 2/9/2018 4:56 PM
Is it the arm pumping thing or something else
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/9/2018 5:25 PM
may be the moonwalking thing
5:26 PM
seems they dubbed it "moonfall"
5:26 PM
very creative
Trit 2/9/2018 6:40 PM
http://www.planetvb.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6982&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0&start=0
6:42 PM
divingkxt 2/9/2018 8:34 PM
It probably didn't get far beyond that document.
8:37 PM
Wait...there is a prototype.
8:37 PM
Interesting.
Trit 2/9/2018 9:01 PM
yeah theres a prototype
punk7890 2/9/2018 9:46 PM
hmm bummer, found some debug menus in Persona 3 Portable but none so far work
punk7890 2/9/2018 10:06 PM
actually, its missing some initialization. Some of these menus should work in game. I'll try that after
Deleted User 2/10/2018 1:27 AM
punk7890 2/10/2018 1:30 AM
I got them to work in game, but just figuring out how psp cheats work to make a code.
Deleted User 2/10/2018 1:31 AM
rad
1:31 AM
nice work!
punk7890 2/10/2018 1:36 AM
pretty annoying that I have to use 3 tools at once to even get anything done correctly
1:37 AM
probably won't be doing psp hacking all that often, heh
Deleted User 2/10/2018 1:44 AM
understandable
punk7890 2/10/2018 2:12 AM
yeah probably going to give up on making this code, nothing is really explained that well online. ppsspp is useless for what I need to do (edited)
LarryLemmy 2/10/2018 6:27 AM
Would anyone be able to help manipulate the memory of PS2 games to make unused object appear?
Deleted User 2/10/2018 11:26 AM
@punk7890 you still gonna document the debug mode though?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 4:39 PM
divingkxt 2/10/2018 4:40 PM
Nah.
4:41 PM
Not cool.
Laenthor 2/10/2018 4:41 PM
Speaking of persona, I'm finally starting to play P5.
divingkxt 2/10/2018 4:41 PM
Uh, no. Saying n and r_ is not cool.
4:42 PM
Let me guess, you're some 12-year-old edgelord.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 4:43 PM
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 4:43 PM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.
divingkxt 2/10/2018 4:43 PM
Well, what did you want to say those for?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 4:43 PM
divingkxt 2/10/2018 4:43 PM
Did you find a word filter in a game or something?
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 4:45 PM
is this the real life
divingkxt 2/10/2018 4:45 PM
Oh, right, Polish edgelord.
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 4:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2Yni481.jpg
divingkxt 2/10/2018 4:47 PM
Edgelords are people who try to be intentionally offensive for the sake of it.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 4:49 PM
divingkxt 2/10/2018 4:50 PM
You want to discuss unused content?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 4:51 PM
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 4:53 PM
Deleted User 2/10/2018 4:59 PM
"i'm annoyed my freedom is limited" lol
LarryLemmy 2/10/2018 5:33 PM
You sure told us
Huks 2/10/2018 5:39 PM
I've never been on a place on the internet that didn't limit my freedom in one way or another
5:40 PM
Must've been this guy's very first day
Deleted User 2/10/2018 6:13 PM
Places have rules. Even the ruleless places tend to have unwritten rules. Normally.
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 6:15 PM
LarryLemmy 2/10/2018 6:19 PM
A while back someone on a wiki I edited completely raged at the admins and accused them of being control freaks simply because the site had rules.
divingkxt 2/10/2018 6:30 PM
Speaking of rage...
6:30 PM
https://tcrf.net/User_talk:Kiby
User talk:Kiby
Deleted User 2/10/2018 6:33 PM
kirby
LarryLemmy 2/10/2018 6:34 PM
Bachelor's degree in Wiki Management
Borman 2/10/2018 6:42 PM
Any idea if Dolphin handles .dpf files?
divingkxt 2/10/2018 6:54 PM
Probably not.
Borman 2/10/2018 6:55 PM
Boo, will have to try to find a different way of running things. Not sure that the RVT-H supports writing the images to the drive, will check that tomorrow
Stewie1.0 2/10/2018 6:57 PM
I did some modding on Project Diva Dreamy Theater 1 on my ps3 to see if some of the unused stuff works, and most of them do. The unused song slot for Sakura Rain -standard edit- still works
6:57 PM
7:02 PM
It doesnt work at all in Dreamy Theater 2nd, but its still in the data
ゲームボーイ64 2/10/2018 7:03 PM
@Stewie1.0 your avatar is adorable
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 7:03 PM
my avatar is beautiful
1
Stewie1.0 2/10/2018 7:04 PM
Lol thanks @ゲームボーイ64
ゲームボーイ64 2/10/2018 7:04 PM
yes mcdonalds sonic heroes sonic
7:04 PM
you are good looking
Stewie1.0 2/10/2018 7:13 PM
The unused difficulty called Encore that i found in Future Tone actually works in Dreamy Theater 1. And it has it
7:13 PM
*its own text
7:13 PM
7:14 PM
Its been around since then, as it was removed from Arcade before it's release. Dreamy Theater 1 also has unfinished Arcade files, as it was released before Arcade was released
punk7890 2/10/2018 7:15 PM
@Deleted User Yeah, I'll still document it. There is quite a bit more as well which I'll provide info on how to access them. (edited)
Deleted User 2/10/2018 7:32 PM
\o/
7:32 PM
awesome
Tsugato 2/10/2018 8:17 PM
Just saw there was a Discord, decided to join.
Dezent 2/10/2018 8:18 PM
Ohai
Tsugato 2/10/2018 8:18 PM
Hi.
divingkxt 2/10/2018 8:19 PM
Gutentag.
Drac 2/10/2018 8:19 PM
Bonjour. (edited)
divingkxt 2/10/2018 8:20 PM
So yeah, nothing unused in Abuse (Crack dot com game) afaik.
punk7890 2/10/2018 8:21 PM
@Deleted User I put a small video on my twitter of the party editor and item editors
8:21 PM
also manged to make codes now, but wow. What a process.
Deleted User 2/10/2018 8:24 PM
aw yes
punk7890 2/10/2018 8:35 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:Punk7890#Persona_3_Portable_.28USA.29 if you want to play around with those two options for now
User:Punk7890
8:35 PM
will add more later
8:36 PM
hold L / R then press triangle with it on in game to activate.
Deleted User 2/10/2018 8:37 PM
rad
8:37 PM
btw
8:38 PM
idk how relevant or useful it will be, but save data for P3P seems to be region-free
8:38 PM
I used the same save file to capture screenshots from various regions
8:38 PM
https://tcrf.net/Bugs:Persona_3_Portable
Bugs:Persona 3 Portable
punk7890 2/10/2018 8:38 PM
neat, never heard of that before
Deleted User 2/10/2018 8:38 PM
might be P3P specific, rather than a PSP thing
8:38 PM
haven't tested outside of P3P
punk7890 2/10/2018 8:38 PM
generally save files are always region locked
Deleted User 2/10/2018 8:38 PM
yeah
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 9:19 PM
i'll take ridiculous ebay auctions for $16,000
9:19 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Nintendo-Super-Nintendo-Classic-Edition-Super-Nintendo-3Ds-Xl-Bundle/182961881923?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44040%26meid%3D0153993b28964a4da56bcb2d49f593af%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D282825353265%26itm%3D182961881923&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
Super Nintendo – Super Nintendo Classic Edition– Super Nintendo 3Ds Xl Bundle
This bundle includes the following One super Nintendo classic edition One new Nintendo 3DS XL One super Nintendo entertainment system This original super Nintendo comes in the original box with the original packing material The original super Nintendo entertainment system does not include the super Mario world cartridge or instruction manual’s. Please see pictures for details. If you have any questions please feel free to ask. | eBay!
9:20 PM
SNES almost CIB (missing the mario cart and manual), brand new SNES Classic, and brand new SNES edition N3DS XL
9:20 PM
$16k is a ridiculous asking price
2Tie 2/10/2018 9:22 PM
for the snes fanatic who doesn't already have a snes
divingkxt 2/10/2018 9:24 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Atari-7800-Development-Card-very-rare-1-No-RESERVE/292441385172
Vintage Atari 7800 Development Card - very rare $1 No RESERVE
NO RESERVE $1 AUCTION Im selling a few of my vintage computer items. Up for auction is a used Atari 7800 Development RAM Card. This was given to developers by Atari to help create new games. Check out more info at atari7800.org As with any electronics, there's no refunds or returns. No box or cables. VERY RARE AND HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER. Try to find this elsewhere. This is a must have for the true Atari collector. Bid with confidence as I have 100% positive feedback. Highest bidder will win the auction as this is a no reserve auction starting at $1. Good luck and look at my other auctions for $1 No reserve items. Winning bidder to pay within 3 days or I'll have to wish diarrhea upon you. | eBay!
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 9:25 PM
interesting
9:28 PM
don't have any use for that (no 7800) and i've already bought too much crap :V
divingkxt 2/10/2018 9:28 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Console-Sony-Playstation-2-Tool-Dev-Unit-DTL-10000H-Developer-s-Debugging/162851699837 The holy grail of dev units. (edited)
Console Sony Playstation 2 Tool Dev Unit DTL-10000H Developer’s Debugging
Console Sony Playstation 2 Tool Dev Unit DTL-10000H Developer’s Debugging | Video Games & Consoles, Video Game Consoles | eBay!
9:28 PM
While I would like one myself, the problem is this thing is more fragile than glass.
9:29 PM
Not safety glass, like that thin glass that can easily be punched into.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 9:29 PM
jaysus
divingkxt 2/10/2018 9:31 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Development-kit-blow-out-sale-read-description/332483101960
Development kit blow out sale (read description)
Have a few Developers video game kits available for sell! Will work a deal out with you just send me a message. Message me for more details will sell separately as well. PS2, Wii, Xbox, and PS3 Dev kits. Message me individually and I will send you more pictures so we can talk more about the units and prices! Thank you | eBay!
SuperEgg 2/10/2018 9:31 PM
hewwo peps
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 9:32 PM
>three RVT-Hs and an NDEV
9:32 PM
would like the NDEV but i'm not buying any more shit right now
9:32 PM
but what's more important: are there any protos on those
divingkxt 2/10/2018 9:33 PM
Nothing listed.
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 9:33 PM
there might be 'deleted' images
9:33 PM
they aren't really deleted :V
9:33 PM
and i'm working on improving undelete to handle cases where the first 16k is wiped (i'm not sure if this is an RVT-H firmware version difference or a difference between the Flush button and rvtwriter's delete button)
divingkxt 2/10/2018 9:40 PM
Oh, The Dig.
9:40 PM
Surprised we still don't have it.
9:42 PM
http://dustbin.mixnmojo.co/diggdico/digicons.html
9:43 PM
Apparently, there's a demo version of an early build of The Dig out there. somewhere.
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:02 PM
Does anybody know how to open and listen to BFSTM files?
1
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:03 PM
ffmpeg seems to support it?
10:03 PM
(so anything using ffmpeg, e.g. vlc)
10:03 PM
https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/blob/master/libavformat/brstm.c
FFmpeg/FFmpeg
FFmpeg - mirror of git://source.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.git
10:03 PM
supports brstm, bcstm, bfstm
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:04 PM
Ah Hell yeah, that's what I'm looking for.
1
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:04 PM
speaking of vlc
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:04 PM
Thanks.
1
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:04 PM
vlc-3.0.0 was finally released
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:06 PM
oh dang, i had no idea TCRF had a discord
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:06 PM
it's relatively new
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:06 PM
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:06 PM
gerbil why don't you tell me about these things
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:06 PM
because you never ask
10:06 PM
:V
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:07 PM
>8C.... that's a fair point i should ask more often LMAO
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:07 PM
i made the place and transferred ownership to xkeeper
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:07 PM
all hail
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:07 PM
Discord is honestly better than regular IRC.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:08 PM
damn 416 members
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:08 PM
i have spent many hours browsing TCRF so i'm glad to be here :V
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:08 PM
Me being 2 years on Discord, vs. My 7 years on various IRC clients.
10:08 PM
Discord wins.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:08 PM
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:08 PM
10:08 PM
either beats skype, though
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:08 PM
^^^^
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:09 PM
i spent like, 10 years on skype
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:09 PM
what shall we do when we get to 500 members
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:09 PM
:laughtrack:
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:09 PM
seinfeld theme
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:09 PM
release the beta notes to pre-500 members TCRD
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:09 PM
how about markiplier's discord
10:09 PM
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:09 PM
nO
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:09 PM
what the shit
10:10 PM
oh the invite link isnt working now
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:10 PM
TCRF currently has 416 members
ゲームボーイ64 2/10/2018 10:10 PM
Winamp with chipamp supports brstrm
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:10 PM
You gave me an idea. Replace an entire video game's soundtrack, with Seinfeld's. Preferably a small game, modify the textures of the main character with George, and voila you got meme gold. @CELL Broadband Engine 2006
10:11 PM
Lol
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:11 PM
LUL
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNx9vfWObHQ
the_muteKi
Sonic 1 with Price is Right musical cues
10:11 PM
how about tpir
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:12 PM
that music is oddly fitting
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:12 PM
...ugh i just realized why youtube 'lost' my 'watch later' playlist
10:12 PM
i apparently have two separate youtube accounts and i switched to the other one recently
ゲームボーイ64 2/10/2018 10:12 PM
I wish that the death sound was the losing sound effect
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:12 PM
the game over sound is
10:12 PM
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:12 PM
Imagine this. Pepsiman (feat. George Costanza). Lol
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:13 PM
i know, it's somehow a perfect fit to have price is right music over sonic 1 and i think about that far too often to be comfortable
ゲームボーイ64 2/10/2018 10:13 PM
oh
10:13 PM
that is fucking gold
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:14 PM
there's a full list of cues and the associated stages
10:14 PM
(in the description)
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:15 PM
This. https://youtu.be/Ichdfn9U9_I
SonicandInuyasha
The Price is Right Theme (Sega Genesis Cover)
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:15 PM
...the lead sounds more like an NES instrument
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj66eoC8ntI
Iceferno Remixes
Seinfeld Theme (Sega Genesis Remix by Iceferno)
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:17 PM
...that's almost exactly the real theme
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:17 PM
I think you can do that with an Yamaha YM2612 soundchip. @GerbilSoft Which, the Genesis did use.
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:22 PM
challenge:
10:22 PM
what would be in Seinfeld: The Video Game
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:23 PM
Tsugato 2/10/2018 10:23 PM
This turned into a boss. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_O-yy-CU-Vc
hollowedman
I don't wanna be a Pirate
ƒluƒƒу 2/10/2018 10:23 PM
`[2:10 PM] General Katzenauge: You gave me an idea. Replace an entire video game's soundtrack, with Seinfeld's. Preferably a small game, modify the textures of the main character with George, and voila you got meme gold. @shoopdahoop22`
10:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB-ahElAJ0c
everennui
Seinfeld Doom Mod by Doug Keener
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:24 PM
there's a lot more seinfeld in TCRF than i expected
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:24 PM
uhh jerry is at the comedy club and you need to input the correct button sequences to correctly tell jokes and boost your audience approval rating that would be one mission
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:24 PM
hahahahaha
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:24 PM
idk
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:24 PM
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:25 PM
what is the deal with lost game content
Deleted User 2/10/2018 10:25 PM
what's the deal with Sim City
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:25 PM
remember when seinfeld got parodied in we bare bears
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:26 PM
what is the DEAL with prototypes? i mean, ya make em, ya toss em to the side, then some shmuck comes up n' buys it up!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/10/2018 10:26 PM
the bootleg Jerry also said "What's the deal with bees?", so I think it was a Bee Movie reference too
ƒluƒƒу 2/10/2018 10:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKyNZhKgqrQ
Fridge355
DOOM (2016) Seinfeld Elaine Dance Taunt
divingkxt 2/10/2018 10:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzc6SY6zRYI
Zoinkity
Doraemon 3 Debug Menu
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:28 PM
oh dang, a proto thing
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:28 PM
yes
10:28 PM
baeaeatas
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:28 PM
quick, post more seinfeld
ゲームボーイ64 2/10/2018 10:29 PM
no place for betas here
10:29 PM
this is a strictly seinfeld server
CosmicEternity 2/10/2018 10:29 PM
what do you think this is? a wiki for interesting unused content?
Deleted User 2/10/2018 10:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhV4whO0Xps
しましょう日本語で
Seinfeld - Japanese Clips 「となりのサインフェルド」
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-FbktgqCqY
marshmallos5
Seinfeld Frogger
ゲームボーイ64 2/10/2018 10:30 PM
this is the best I have
10:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji9qSuQapFY
Marisa Kirisame
AEUHHH????
GerbilSoft 2/10/2018 10:32 PM
wat
LinkingHeartZ 2/10/2018 10:33 PM
I was looking around online for info on Bayonetta and found out that the Umbra Elder was going to be the narrator in the beginning instead of Luka's father. Anyone know if the dialogue is still inside the game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGTRAoP0_w
Bayonetta Stuff
BAYONETTA - Alternative Opening - Falling Clock [Female Narration]
divingkxt 2/10/2018 10:44 PM
Not that I would know of.
10:44 PM
Not sure what format Bayonetta uses for its audio files.
Deleted User 2/10/2018 10:46 PM
middleware
10:46 PM
probably acb/awb
10:46 PM
best version to check would be 360 but I don't have that one lol
10:48 PM
yeah it's awb. criware, lots of support for it online
LinkingHeartZ 2/10/2018 11:37 PM
interesting... wish I had the tools for looking into the files myself, but I don't atm
Tsugato 2/11/2018 12:54 AM
I could quickly get the tools, and try and look for myself. I love digging through files.
LuigiBlood 2/11/2018 5:55 AM
try to beat that record https://i.imgur.com/vLQByfI.png
punk7890 2/11/2018 7:02 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/962657893710376960
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a big debug menu in Atelier Viorate (PSP). I also found the one in the PS2 version last year. It is basically the same, except this version doesn't render that well. Contains, level select, image editors, sound test, and many many others. https://t.co/R5amMMZ3Xe
7:02 AM
Meow 2/11/2018 9:06 AM
I got one for you that seems to have a hidden debug if you want it @punk7890
9:07 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ko7xcujliy124rg/Ford_Racing_3_%28Aug_19%2C_2004_Preview%29.rar
Ford Racing 3 (Aug 19, 2004 Preview).rar
MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.
Cora :3 2/11/2018 10:49 AM
i dont think it'll help but i've found beta music for a game but its not in the files
10:49 AM
AVGN Adventures, i found a Title Theme with the AVGN Motif, Tutorial theme with a similar motif and a Stage Select
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 2/11/2018 2:09 PM
so
2:10 PM
since ocarina of time originally had the medallions be equippable to use like dins fire and stuff, what did the great faeries give you?
2:11 PM
we've seen that the blue fairy from that development period gave link a magic meter, but that could have been the one that gives link the super spin attack
Hiccup 2/11/2018 2:33 PM
after watching this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGER3YZGQqY), I'm wondering if this (https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_3D_World#Unused_Portion_of_Title_Music) is actually used in earlier system versions...
Super Mario 3D World
old acc! inactive 2/11/2018 5:02 PM
wow
5:02 PM
long
LarryLemmy 2/11/2018 7:02 PM
Is there absolutely any way someone can help me with model animations? I have the model file and what I think are skeleton and animation files in plain text format. Even if someone just points me in the direction of an easy to understand tutorial...
divingkxt 2/11/2018 7:04 PM
3D model animations are something I'm not familiar with. (edited)
7:05 PM
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Animation_in_Blender
Animation in Blender
BoringPerson 2/11/2018 7:06 PM
I'm (very slowly) working on importing some models into Blender. Got the skeleton working, hoping to do animations sometime too. Not sure how much I can hep
7:06 PM
*help
LarryLemmy 2/11/2018 7:07 PM
I could send you the files and you could see how well you understand them?
BoringPerson 2/11/2018 7:08 PM
Sure, worth a shot
7:08 PM
How familiar are you with skeletons/armatures and stuff, by the way?
LarryLemmy 2/11/2018 7:08 PM
I only really get the basics
7:09 PM
Like I understand what skeletons are for but that's it
BoringPerson 2/11/2018 7:10 PM
Anyway, go ahead and send em
7:10 PM
Plain text format sounds promising
7:15 PM
Ugh ffs how do I hide the side panels in discord web app, I want to make the window skinny so I can see the skeleton file on screen at the same time
7:17 PM
Anyway yea so I'm looking at the skeleton file, looks promising as I thought. Position is probably X/Y/Z of the bone. Orientation looks like it might be a quaternion, a 4-number weird way of doing rotations
7:17 PM
Unfortunately I don't know what LocalDrawingTransform is used for, but it looks like a matrix (since it has 16 numbers)
7:18 PM
And Parent is the name of the parent bone. For example if you've got a bone representing the character's hand, you want it to move whenever you move the arm bone, so the arm bone would be a parent of the hand bone
7:20 PM
Umm I'm looking at the animation file now, but I'm less familiar with that stuff
7:21 PM
RotationKey looks like a big list of quaternions, and TranslationKey a big list of X/Y/Z positions...
LarryLemmy 2/11/2018 7:22 PM
What's the deal with quaternions? Is it XYZ plus an extra coordinate?
BoringPerson 2/11/2018 7:23 PM
To be honest I don't really "get" quaternions, I just plug them into Blender and let Blender sort it out
7:23 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion
Quaternion
In mathematics, the quaternions are a number system that extends the complex numbers. They were first described by Irish mathematician William Rowan Hamilton in 1843 and applied to mechanics in three-dimensional space. A feature of quaternions is...
7:23 PM
I just know you can use them for rotations somehow, something about rotating in 4 dimensions
7:24 PM
In practice when I'm making a Blender import plugin, I take the quaternion 4 numbers and plug them into a Blender function that turns it into a rotation for you
7:26 PM
I think the answer to you question is no, it's not just XYZ in the usual sense. I once got to play with a thing that let you change each of the 4 numbers to rotate an object, and the effect it had on the object's rotation was not intuitive at all
punk7890 2/11/2018 7:27 PM
@Meow Sure, I'll take a look. I actually own that game. Well, its either 3 or 2 I own.
BoringPerson 2/11/2018 7:31 PM
With regard to the animation file, the hope is that there's something connecting rotations and XYZ positions to bones to animation them. There are 22 bones in the skeleton file, so I'm trying to look for 22 of something in the animation file
7:33 PM
or a multiple of 22, I see 88....
LarryLemmy 2/11/2018 7:33 PM
From what I've seen there are four animations and 88 in total so 22 each
BoringPerson 2/11/2018 7:33 PM
That makes sense
7:34 PM
or 5 animations if you count the first one which appears to be blank, but hopefully it still stands
Trit 2/11/2018 11:02 PM
whats the point of being in a voice channel if everyone is muted
11:02 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/11/2018 11:03 PM
Odd
11:03 PM
oh wait nvm
Smoke 2/11/2018 11:03 PM
it's the sound of progress
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/11/2018 11:03 PM
its for the music bot
punk7890 2/12/2018 1:13 AM
@Meow I didn't see any debug menus, just a lot of text for race modes and placeholder stuff.
1:14 AM
I made these though if they are of any use: skip movies 20130200 03E00008 20130204 00000000 Unlock all modes + cars 20184BCC 24020001
Meow 2/12/2018 1:17 AM
That's a shame I saw debug stuff mentioned in the file but thank you for looking
punk7890 2/12/2018 1:41 AM
yeah the debug stuff was for log output
1:41 AM
doesn't appear to work in that build
1:41 AM
the other debug text is just file handling text
1:42 AM
some stuff gets outputted to console window if a crash occurs
1:43 AM
1:44 AM
feel free to let me know of any other proto ps2 stuff to look at
Meow 2/12/2018 4:39 AM
@punk7890 anything of interest? https://zendimg.com/image/WIrL https://zendimg.com/image/Wb42 https://zendimg.com/image/WxB6
4:39 AM
transformers might
punk7890 2/12/2018 4:55 AM
yeah I might have a go at transformers again sometime as I remember it didn't want to boot for some reason
4:56 AM
what are the two FFX ones?
4:56 AM
I assume one is the demo, other proto
Meow 2/12/2018 5:45 AM
transformers doesn't work on emulators sadly, only retail/dev hardware. and i think they're the public betas
5:46 AM
5:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN1D3SpLLZs @punk7890 video explaining transformers
Proto Fgt
Hardware vs Emulation with Prototypes
punk7890 2/12/2018 8:44 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ Do you happen to have PSPDIS? I can't find any working links. ps2dis only kinda words for psp hacking. Some opcodes get messed up when loading memory dumps into it because user memory is too high on psp. (edited)
8:44 AM
Do you happen to know a way around that? All of the jals and jumps get messed up
8:46 AM
well, not all of them do but a lot do.
Meow 2/12/2018 8:51 AM
https://github.com/eintw1ck/jim-psp/tree/master/pspdis @punk7890 this?
eintw1ck/jim-psp
jim-psp - archive of http://psp.jim.sh/svn/psp as of 2016/04/24
Hiccup 2/12/2018 10:09 AM
Could someone who has a Wii U with games on an external hard drive check something? Does removing the hard drive while a hard drive-located game is displaying its banner cause a "[could not load game]" message to appear?
GerbilSoft 2/12/2018 10:11 AM
generally removing the HDD in any menu other than system settings results in an error message that says "Don't remove the HDD" and i think it prompts to reboot?
Hiccup 2/12/2018 10:29 AM
I'm wanting to know if it plays the whole banner jingle like when you remove the disc on the banner screen.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/12/2018 11:32 AM
@punk7890#9947 I don't have PSPDIS. and way to hack psp software using ps2dis: Load a dump file, Input 00000000 and 08800000 at input box of dialog titled "フォーマット不明 ". It will not messed up jal/j/bxx. (edited)
punk7890 2/12/2018 7:11 PM
@Meow that probably is it but I'm not sure how to build those things.
7:13 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ I did that, but it is still not working. jals, j, etc still do not appear correctly.
7:18 PM
here is an example. First image is how it should appear, second image is incorrect in ps2dis
7:18 PM
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7:19 PM
no idea what the problem is (edited)
SirenaBeach 2/12/2018 9:20 PM
@sunn can confirm the unused portals' models do not appear in game
SirenaBeach 2/12/2018 9:28 PM
or uh, wait
SirenaBeach 2/12/2018 9:36 PM
yeah they don't
alan 2/12/2018 11:19 PM
shouldnt we have an article on swapdoodle?
11:19 PM
i did find a parent control thing in the japanese version
11:19 PM
which is suppose to prevent swapdoodle going the same path as swapnote
11:20 PM
aka "you can only read a few notes from online friends unless you go near each other and register each other"
11:20 PM
either that or pay a fee to unlock it
alan 2/12/2018 11:28 PM
to rephrase cause i sound like an idiot: swapdoodle has a feature in the japanese version which prevents users (mostly kids) to read more than 3-5 notes per day (i'm not sure if changing the date and time works) from people who are registered on your friends list. if you use a feature on the program which lets you connect to your friends locally, you can remove this restriction on only their notes. there is also a seperate method to remove this restriction which is like the new 3ds browser restriction where you have to pay 180 yen. also if i still sound dumb, its like 10pm, thats my only excuse.
GerbilSoft 2/12/2018 11:52 PM
read: nintendo still does not get the internet
11:52 PM
*** YOU MUST HAVE A TCRF GOLD ACCOUNT TO CONTINUE READING THESE MESSAGES. ***
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SirenaBeach 2/13/2018 1:59 AM
yeah I probably accidentally added something else
punk7890 2/13/2018 2:47 AM
welp, was looking into the debug menu for Danganronpa psp only to realize that I technically had the debug menu enabled, but the functions for it were removed lol. Here I was thinking that it was activated by button inputs, meanwhile I was cycling through the non existent debug menu in the background figuring that it was activated by complex button combos. (edited)
2:50 AM
I really feel dumb now
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/13/2018 7:05 AM
@punk7890 It seems broken first instruction. but I have not encountered that case. sorry.
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:06 AM
hmm odd
7:06 AM
can you send me your version of ps2dis? I kinda doubt its different
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/13/2018 7:07 AM
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:07 AM
hmm I have same build as well
7:07 AM
perhaps you've just never encountered it yet
7:09 AM
Ah. I've read that it does that because user memory is too high. jal opcodes are 0x0Cxxxxxx but in PSP its both 0x0Cxxxxxx and 0x0Exxxxxx
7:09 AM
I'd like to see what pspdis is but I'm not sure how to build it or find a pre-built version
7:11 AM
By the way, thanks for letting me know that you can load psp dumps into ps2dis. I've managed to find a few debug menus and related stuff to that.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/13/2018 7:11 AM
No problem
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:14 AM
I wish ps2dis was universal would be awesome.
7:15 AM
Do you use this for ps2 hacking? https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-PCSX2dis-v1-1-A-ps2dis-inspired-PCSX2-enabled-Game-Hacking-Tool-W-I-P-13-02-2015
7:15 AM
if you've never used it before, its extremely godly for finding debug menus.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/13/2018 7:17 AM
oh I don't use it. Thank you!
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:18 AM
Its ps2dis in real-time basically with reverse opcode searches + wildcard searches. (edited)
7:18 AM
It helped me many many times in figuring out complex things (edited)
7:19 AM
https://tcrf.net/War_of_the_Monsters#Hidden_Cheats
War of the Monsters
7:19 AM
I would have never found that if it wasn't for that debugger. (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/13/2018 7:20 AM
It is amazing to be analyzable in real time!
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:20 AM
yeah
7:21 AM
it makes hacking not as time consuming as it is pretty much. Cuts down on a lot of long searches.
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:23 AM
umm
7:23 AM
is there a known way to find out if a game has hidden features that can be activated by pressing certain buttons in certain order?
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:24 AM
all games are different
7:24 AM
its not that simple
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:25 AM
so there is no way to tell
7:25 AM
well in Jak 1 there might be one
7:25 AM
and I guess if there is one then it is stored in its CGO files
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:26 AM
if there is already existing cheats, such up how they are stored, how the game processes button inputs, etc
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:26 AM
yeah that could help if there were any cheats
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:27 AM
most common ones I've found for ps2 is pretty variable. I'm not sure I could call it common, but one of the basic ones is a list of standard button inputs in ram somewhere in half words
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:27 AM
ok thanks for the help
7:27 AM
it is actually not too important because I have found a way to activate this debug mode with cheat engine I think
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:28 AM
I would like to make a tutorial one day but I'm not sure how to approach it
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:28 AM
I did some weird stuff with cheat engine, then the game seemed to press random buttons, then the game rebooted into debug mode
7:28 AM
how useful is pcsx2dis?
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:28 AM
extremely useful
7:29 AM
basically I've used nothing but that for ps2 hacking
7:30 AM
what game has this debug menu? I could help out sometime if you want
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:30 AM
not menu
7:30 AM
just a debug mode
7:30 AM
according to tcrf guidelines it is a debug mode
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:30 AM
ah
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:30 AM
you can fly with R2 for example
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:30 AM
what does it do
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:30 AM
and enter free camera mode
7:30 AM
wait let me link the article
7:30 AM
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Jak_and_Daxter:_The_Precursor_Legacy#Debug_Mode
Proto:Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:30 AM
sounds like remnants of a debug menu or just dev shortcuts
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:31 AM
dev shortcuts most likely
7:31 AM
they even used it in a presentation before release
7:31 AM
or not presentation, but something like that
7:31 AM
they showed the game
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:32 AM
neat
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:32 AM
until a few days ago it was believed that most of it was removed from the final version.... and then I found a way to activate it completely (edited)
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:32 AM
I found something similar to that in Jet Force Gemini
7:32 AM
oh? nice work
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:32 AM
it was luck
7:32 AM
as I said the game activated it for me
7:32 AM
and then I used my knowledge of the jak games to find out what happened
7:33 AM
it edited the function pointer, but gave it a different value than what other function pointers would normally use
7:33 AM
or something like that, hopefully that is clear
7:34 AM
looking at the ELF with IDA, one can see many interesting things... like a function called something like "IsT10K"
7:34 AM
T10000 is a PS2 TOOL (development kit)
7:34 AM
and many other things...
7:35 AM
but I couldn't really do anything with them, biggest change I could do by editing the elf was changing default language
7:35 AM
(only tool I have for editing the elf is a hex editor
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:36 AM
well, if you see anything that looks like a debug menu, give me a shout
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:43 AM
ok
7:43 AM
there most likely used to be a debug menu in the game
7:43 AM
there are a lot of mentions in the memory
7:43 AM
but even if it exists I doubt that it would work with the retail PS2 memory amount (32MB)
7:43 AM
the game sometimes crashes even if I just enable some debug text thingies
7:47 AM
oh this pcsx2dis looks promising
7:50 AM
how do I "enable" something?
7:52 AM
this I saw earlier in memory
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:55 AM
to enable stuff you have to analyze their function that calls up the debug text (assuming one is found). Generally just keep back tracing functions until you get a hit. Figure out how that function works and you should get your debug menu.
7:55 AM
There isn't a global explanation for it, its a pretty bare-bones explanation.
7:56 AM
but I'll have a look at that sometime, maybe tomorrow
7:57 AM
again, I would love to make a tutorial on some easy examples that don't require advance knowledge to enable. Most debug menus don't, but the issue is I am not sure how to approach it at the moment
Luminar 2/13/2018 7:59 AM
how do I trace back based on the label?
punk7890 2/13/2018 7:59 AM
double click
7:59 AM
then press space bar on the text then F3
8:00 AM
you'll need to analyze first
8:01 AM
but anyways, I wonder how many people would like a tutorial like that? From really simple basic searching (no asm knowledge required) to basic asm knowledge. I would explain everything step by step of coarse.
Luminar 2/13/2018 8:01 AM
no references found :(
punk7890 2/13/2018 8:01 AM
ah bummer
Luminar 2/13/2018 8:01 AM
I will try to trace back something that is proven to be in the game already
punk7890 2/13/2018 8:01 AM
might still be in game but would be hard to find tho
8:02 AM
could also be a text pointer
8:03 AM
points to top of text in ram, and calls them up via different arguments
8:04 AM
try finding the top of the text
8:04 AM
like, were it begins in ram
8:04 AM
could be a pointer up there
8:04 AM
I need to head out now, peace
Luminar 2/13/2018 8:05 AM
ok thanks
8:05 AM
bye
Luminar 2/13/2018 8:14 AM
YES
8:14 AM
traced back some debug text by activating it with cheat engine
Revenant 2/13/2018 11:57 AM
https://twitter.com/Foone/status/963282767634038787
foone (@Foone)
The best part of going to junk shops is finding disks like this. There is exactly one reference to the game "Dungeon of Pun" on the internet, and it's a comment in an i-Mockery forum thread from 2003. Now there's a disk, and I just imaged it.
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Halfbit 2/13/2018 12:24 PM
Does 40 Winks on N64 count as “Released” now?
Revenant 2/13/2018 12:28 PM
it will once it actually comes out
Deleted User 2/13/2018 12:28 PM
Is it being put on steam or something
Borman 2/13/2018 12:58 PM
Kickstarter for Steam and N64, plus a stretch goal for DC
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/13/2018 2:14 PM
move over mario
Revo 2/13/2018 3:33 PM
i presume distributed with MAME for steam version
leilei 2/13/2018 3:44 PM
imaging pc floppies is painful in my experience (edited)
3:44 PM
i couldn't use my usual tools for imaging microfloppies (vgacopy failed) (edited)
3:44 PM
had to use resqflpy
3:44 PM
and i have to check the disk size first before creating the image
3:45 PM
maybe it had to do with my fdc
3:46 PM
and yeah there's no usb floppy drives
3:46 PM
and usb microfloppy drives will not be sufficient for imaging
3:46 PM
and tend to wreck disks
3:47 PM
so for serious pc floppy imaging you'll have to go for the real deal
3:47 PM
which can be a problem in the far future (edited)
Revenant 2/13/2018 3:48 PM
"no usb floppy drives" as in none that are suitable for imaging for whatever reason?
leilei 2/13/2018 3:48 PM
none for the 5inchers
Revenant 2/13/2018 3:48 PM
oh, true
SirenaBeach 2/13/2018 4:41 PM
@sunn Nice! If you change the Test Level's goop bitmap to a completely white one (cover everything) the goop will be in the form of the height map. Sadly, the Test Level model is too small for the goop map so the sides don't show up.
GerbilSoft 2/13/2018 5:24 PM
there are some USB floppy interfaces designed for that purpose like kryoflux
5:25 PM
https://www.kryoflux.com/
5:25 PM
uses a standard PC floppy drive but supports reading everything
5:26 PM
https://webstore.kryoflux.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=30&osCsid=d7fe99dc211c2a942d79ed7ebf1456a4
5:26 PM
only problem: 130 euros
5:27 PM
https://webstore.kryoflux.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=30&osCsid=d7fe99dc211c2a942d79ed7ebf1456a4 100 euros for the 'basic' version, which excludes some cabling
Borman 2/13/2018 5:43 PM
Kryoflux does the trick
5:43 PM
For floppy disks, as my chat jumps ahead
5:43 PM
And I see Gerbil recommended it
5:44 PM
The actual "commercial" license is far more btw
GerbilSoft 2/13/2018 5:56 PM
:V
5:57 PM
i need to clean my 1571CR sometime, it's having issues with certain disks
5:57 PM
difficulty: not as easy to clean 1571s as 1541s because you can't just lift the top part of the drive
5:57 PM
(1571 is double-sided)
Borman 2/13/2018 6:15 PM
Flippy disks are troublesome without a modded drive with the kryoflux, thats the one downside
punk7890 2/13/2018 6:25 PM
Wow, 40 winks for N64 is getting a release?
6:27 PM
very neat
Revo 2/13/2018 6:47 PM
so this is kind of funny
6:47 PM
`static void task_intro_15(u8 taskId) { u16 foo = gTasks[taskId].data[0]; if (gTasks[taskId].data[0] != 32) { gTasks[taskId].data[0] += 4; REG_WIN0V = (gTasks[taskId].data[0] * 256) - (foo -= 0x9C); // Game Freak probably fat fingered here. They might have meant (foo - 0x9C) instead } else { REG_WIN0V = 0x2080; gTasks[taskId].func = task_intro_16; } }`
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6:47 PM
this matches, but any attempt to get rid of -= doesnt
6:48 PM
by doing -
divingkxt 2/13/2018 9:07 PM
They probably turned off a bunch of compiler warnings.
9:10 PM
Also, seems like the programmer somehow managed to wedge his finger between the - and = keys.
9:10 PM
Slightly angled toward the - key.
9:10 PM
Uh.
GerbilSoft 2/13/2018 9:21 PM
[9:07 PM] divingkatae: They probably turned off a bunch of compiler warnings.
9:21 PM
mrw encountering any codebase with -fpermissive
divingkxt 2/13/2018 9:47 PM
https://twitter.com/xabi/status/963368227073134594
Xabi (@xabi)
@Jon_Cortazar @ManuelPazosMSX @Gryzor87 @YeOldeNemesis @mooniitani
9:47 PM
https://twitter.com/ManuelPazosMSX/status/963338143037644801
Manuel Pazos (@ManuelPazosMSX)
@Gryzor87 @YeOldeNemesis Otro detalle del Thexder, es que en la cabecera de la ROM, el autor agradece a varios miembros de Compile su ayuda. Justo las mismas personas que hicieron el Zanac, si la memoria no me falla @mooniitani
Algo648 2/13/2018 10:06 PM
Heheh surprise small people
Incineroar 2/14/2018 12:00 AM
@Revo what was that code part of? from what I'm seeing, is that part of the intro?
Revo 2/14/2018 12:01 AM
yes
Incineroar 2/14/2018 12:04 AM
and in looking at that, wouldn't that fail?
Revo 2/14/2018 12:04 AM
no, because foo isnt reused
Incineroar 2/14/2018 12:05 AM
ah, it's a variable
12:05 AM
duh
12:05 AM
it's late
Revo 2/14/2018 12:05 AM
the fat finger didnt result in a broken function, so the programmer while coding really fast probably just didnt care
Incineroar 2/14/2018 12:05 AM
excuse the stupid
Revo 2/14/2018 12:05 AM
and was in a hurry
Incineroar 2/14/2018 12:05 AM
ah, yeah
12:06 AM
it'd still return the correct result
12:06 AM
but it'd also assign it
12:06 AM
the assign being useless
12:06 AM
since as you mentioned it's not reused
Revo 2/14/2018 12:06 AM
and yet, it wont match without doing it
12:06 AM
register reuse is affected
Incineroar 2/14/2018 12:07 AM
annoying :/
12:08 AM
that's one really lucky fat finger
chekwob 2/14/2018 8:05 AM
`Older than the N64/Playstation Be my guest. Equal to or greater in age than the above Link to Google with a helpful search term.` greater in age would be older surely
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/14/2018 9:22 AM
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Laenthor 2/14/2018 12:16 PM
I have lego racers on PC and most of the files are .tum. Anyone has any idea with what they could be opened with?
Laenthor 2/14/2018 12:29 PM
also [MeTaLRenderDevice] ClassCaption="S3 MeTaL for Windows" AskInstalled=Do you have a Savage 3D card installed? AskUse=Do you want Unreal to use your Savage 3D card?
leilei 2/14/2018 2:10 PM
yes those are for s3 savage cards
2:10 PM
for a time they used to be the only kid in the block to support compressed textures
2:11 PM
metal is pretty much d3d + dxtc stuff
2:12 PM
though i never got s3 metal working with savage2000
2:12 PM
the more tcrfy unreal video driver is sgldrv
2:14 PM
sgldrv got regressed in unreal patches, comes compiled AND commented out in some other unrealengine1 games but could be hexed to work again
Laenthor 2/14/2018 2:14 PM
Hun, that's neat
leilei 2/14/2018 2:15 PM
I've already tried the SGLDrv in UT, Rune, Deus Ex, Nerf Arena Blast
Laenthor 2/14/2018 2:15 PM
Makes sense. This is from an ini file from Harry Potter but I've never seen the option asked anywhere. What's funny is that they put all of their menu and credits text in ini files so you can edit them XD
leilei 2/14/2018 2:16 PM
the question that gets asked is a legacy Unreal thing on load
2:16 PM
before it had the familiar video device picker window added in later versions (edited)
Laenthor 2/14/2018 2:16 PM
Ah ok
leilei 2/14/2018 2:16 PM
it's technically unused content though (the question strings) (edited)
2:17 PM
but not exactly mysterious
Laenthor 2/14/2018 2:17 PM
Yeah the only options are d3d and the software renderer
2:17 PM
But I'm still curious about the .tum files...
2:17 PM
Lego Racers was on what engine again?
leilei 2/14/2018 2:17 PM
i haven't investigated harry potter
2:17 PM
but i'd imagine something like undying
2:18 PM
undying stripped it all for a d3d7 renderer only
2:18 PM
lego racers could be its own proprietary engine
Laenthor 2/14/2018 2:18 PM
I think LR has its own engine
leilei 2/14/2018 2:19 PM
it'd better have if it wants to be a multiplatform 5thgen console game (edited)
Laenthor 2/14/2018 2:19 PM
Yeah I guess that's true
2:19 PM
So... binary it is?
2:19 PM
just pop in a hex editor and se what I can find?
2:21 PM
This game was like the first game I've ever played with my father. Lots of good memories, so I'm still interested by it.
leilei 2/14/2018 2:23 PM
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2:25 PM
all from this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Matrox_m3d_powervr_card.jpg
FrostedGeulleisia 2/14/2018 2:31 PM
i honestly am suprised nobody bothered docunenting gen 6\7 Pokemon titles, like after looking through ORAS's text i found a possible "Soar" menu option for example
Incineroar 2/14/2018 2:34 PM
project pokemon does a lot of that
2:35 PM
TCRF has some of it, but idk if anyone's actually taken a lot of time to look at them because there's so much content
Nex 2/14/2018 2:35 PM
the dpp articles still also need a lot of work...
Incineroar 2/14/2018 2:35 PM
i'd love to finish my Pokemon Diamond/Pearl prerelease page but I'm waaay too busy
leilei 2/14/2018 2:55 PM
sgldrv in ut games is simply commented out and don't work as-is with that card when uncommented
2:55 PM
you'll have to hexedit a name of a function in the sgldrv to match what core wants
2:55 PM
AND run the game in kernelex, for some reason, which allows the sgldrv to work
2:56 PM
i still don't know why that's the case, considering it's not even for nt (and there's no sgl drivers for anything but win95) (edited)
Laenthor 2/14/2018 3:25 PM
It's also a separate ini file from the rest of the driver initialisation files.
leilei 2/14/2018 3:50 PM
know what would be fun to exist? A dreamcast emulator that uses sgl
3:51 PM
but it wouldn't see much development anyway since pcx2 users are in a handful niche anyway
3:51 PM
and it'd ideally would want the rare neon250 card for best results
3:52 PM
pcx2 could work with a bit of blending approximation. i can imagine it rendering jetsetradio since that really didn't use much additive blending at all (edited)
punk7890 2/14/2018 5:32 PM
Ahh shoot. There is a lot of unused dlc in the PC version of Trails of Cold Steel 2 but they don't seem to work by simply editing them in your inventory anymore :(.
5:33 PM
Also the debug menu is present. If anyone is talented in PC game hacking, there is two large debug menus in the PC versions of these games that I'd love to see up and running. (edited)
Deleted User 2/14/2018 5:40 PM
Nice finds
5:41 PM
I wonder if the content is also in the console versions?
punk7890 2/14/2018 5:50 PM
The debug menu is, the dlcs aren't though
Deleted User 2/14/2018 5:53 PM
Ah ok cool
DevEd 2/14/2018 6:56 PM
need help extracting data from the Steam version of Shantae and the Pirate's Curse
6:56 PM
all of the data seems to be contained in one file, `ShantaeCurse.data`
6:57 PM
first 16 bytes are `12 2F F3 18 01 00 06 06 00 00 07 00 30 00 00 00`
DevEd 2/14/2018 7:04 PM
actually i found a thread on vg resource which supposedly contains tools to extract the data, but of course all of the links are dead because dropbox
7:04 PM
https://www.vg-resource.com/thread-27476.html
Ganix 2/14/2018 7:06 PM
@DevEd This it? The signature matches at least. https://github.com/meh2481/MSFHDEx/blob/master/scooby_looney.bms
meh2481/MSFHDEx
MSFHDEx - Tools for extracting Engine Black .data files
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DevEd 2/14/2018 7:08 PM
meanwhile on reddit
Cvolton 2/14/2018 7:10 PM
looks realistic
GerbilSoft 2/14/2018 7:13 PM
Now all you need is an auto-respond bot that autoreplies to SeriouslyWhenIsHL3
Huks 2/14/2018 7:16 PM
This reminds me of the tale of the man who made a bot to say "lol penis" in response to any message with the word penis
7:16 PM
Unfortunately he forgot to implement a check for the bot's own messages so the bot kept saying "lol penis" in response to itself forever and ever
DevEd 2/14/2018 8:36 PM
So I've hit another roadblock: I'm trying to figure out the game's audio format
8:36 PM
From what I can tell, they're most likely compressed
8:37 PM
Here's what I assume is the entire header, if it helps `4A 2D F7 4D 01 02 03 00 02 00 03 00 1C 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 A0 8B 30 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 01 00 00 40 00 00 4C 00 00 00 54 00 00 00 04 01 01 00 14 63 0D 00 00 00 00 00 5C 00 00 00 04 01 01 00 8C E8 22 00 00 00 00 00 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 64 00 00 00 9B D1 13 00 64 20 00 00`
8:38 PM
this should be the boss battle music
8:38 PM
in fact, i might as well upload the actual file
m_boss_battle.wave
1.25 MB
8:39 PM
if i can figure out the format i should be able to look for unused music and/or other audio files (edited)
8:41 PM
the format is likely some form of ADPCM, as if i import the file in Audacity as VOX ADPCM it appears to work for a bit but then it becomes static for the rest of the file
8:41 PM
i suspect the static may be due to compression, but i have no idea
Deleted User 2/14/2018 8:42 PM
audio/video is generally not compressed, since those formats don't compress well to begin with
8:42 PM
as in, file compression
8:42 PM
bit rate compression & co, definitely to be expected
8:43 PM
oh that's an easy one
8:43 PM
lol is this shantae
DevEd 2/14/2018 8:44 PM
OH MY GOD HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO STUPID
Deleted User 2/14/2018 8:44 PM
lol
DevEd 2/14/2018 8:44 PM
IT'S LITERALLY A .MP3 RENAMED TO .WAVE
Deleted User 2/14/2018 8:44 PM
well
8:44 PM
it's OGG
DevEd 2/14/2018 8:44 PM
except the be-wait what
Deleted User 2/14/2018 8:44 PM
ctrl+F "OggS" in hex
8:44 PM
you can batch rip those easy
DevEd 2/14/2018 8:45 PM
ok small problem: the beginning is cut off
8:45 PM
well that's one mystery solved
8:46 PM
time to go digging, see what i can find
Deleted User 2/14/2018 8:46 PM
is there more intro before this, cause it sounds pretty intro-y at the start.
8:46 PM
DevEd 2/14/2018 8:46 PM
there is
Deleted User 2/14/2018 8:46 PM
ok
DevEd 2/14/2018 8:47 PM
here's the original song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkpNKgiSNS8
BrawlBRSTMs3 X
Boss Battle - Shantae and the Pirate's Curse Music Extended
8:47 PM
one annoying thing i've found is that all of the music files are contained in individual .vol files
8:48 PM
which i do have a tool for, doesn't make it any less tedious to extract all of them
Deleted User 2/14/2018 8:49 PM
is it quickbms
DevEd 2/14/2018 8:51 PM
no, it's volEx
8:51 PM
.vol is a common format used in EngineBlack games (such as Shantae and the Pirate's Curse)
8:51 PM
volEx doesn't use quickbms
Deleted User 2/14/2018 8:54 PM
aluigi.altervista.org/bms/scooby_looney.bms
8:54 PM
might be outdated, but worth trying
DevEd 2/14/2018 8:54 PM
already found that
8:55 PM
that's only used for extracting all the stuff from the .data file
8:55 PM
i already have all the tools i need
8:55 PM
also i think i may have found something
8:55 PM
a remix of the forest theme from Risky's Revenge
8:56 PM
i don't remember ever hearing it in the game, i think it was on the official OST though
8:57 PM
https://virt.bandcamp.com/track/challenge-accepted
Challenge Accepted, by Jake Kaufman
from the album Shantae and the Pirate's Curse OST
8:57 PM
that track
8:58 PM
the filename is `m_challenge_islands.wave` which seems to suggest some kind of removed challenge mode
8:59 PM
also for some reason the music for the squid baron boss is internally referred to as `m_minigame.wave`
9:04 PM
ok i've discovered ANOTHER audio data format with the same extension (.wave)
9:04 PM
definitely appears to be some form of ADPCM, Audacity can't quite import them properly though
9:08 PM
here's one of them (specifically the sound effect that plays when you break a destructible block)
secret_block_destroy.wave
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DevEd 2/14/2018 9:41 PM
in other news, I've found some unused graphics
DevEd 2/14/2018 9:54 PM
shantae has quite a bit of unused animations
DevEd 2/14/2018 10:16 PM
oh dear, i have found evidence to suggest that Shantae was originally naked during the part where you carry rottytops
10:18 PM
for instance, the internal filename for Run Run Rottytops is `m_nakedrun.wave`
10:19 PM
also, one of Shantae's portraits is internally labelled as `shantae_Naked_LYR1.image`
10:21 PM
that particular bit of portrait art is used in the game by the way
10:23 PM
her pose in that particular portrait image only reinforces the idea
10:24 PM
(note: scaled down)
punk7890 2/14/2018 10:26 PM
DevEd 2/14/2018 10:27 PM
(unfortunately?) there aren't any nudes left in the game
10:28 PM
also of note, there's a `risky_Naked_LYR1.image` too
10:28 PM
it's this one
General Instrument CP1610 1979 2/14/2018 10:29 PM
Wayforward needs to stop being Horny on main.
DevEd 2/14/2018 10:31 PM
can't wait to add this stuff to the wiki
Nadir 2/14/2018 10:55 PM
I think they realized they were going a wee bit too far.
MusashiAA 2/14/2018 11:10 PM
Shantae is a never ending tease
Trit 2/14/2018 11:35 PM
shantae rule34 no more tease (edited)
leilei 2/14/2018 11:40 PM
keep shantae pure
11:41 PM
risky too
ゲームボーイ64 2/14/2018 11:43 PM
but rule 34 has no exceptions
leilei 2/14/2018 11:43 PM
axe cop
11:43 PM
there's one exception
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/14/2018 11:44 PM
keep it safe, children (edited)
11:44 PM
i'm watching you
ゲームボーイ64 2/14/2018 11:44 PM
will not do anything
punk7890 2/15/2018 12:24 AM
Found a map editor in La Pucelle Tactics. Same makers as Disgaea games
12:24 AM
Revenant 2/15/2018 12:25 AM
iirc there's also one in makai kingdom that still isn't on the wiki for some reason
12:25 AM
i don't remember how well documetned it is
punk7890 2/15/2018 12:26 AM
has this one been found before?
12:26 AM
also what about Phantom Brave? I'll look at that another time if it hasn't been found
Revenant 2/15/2018 12:26 AM
i don't know
12:26 AM
to both of those
punk7890 2/15/2018 12:26 AM
ok
Revenant 2/15/2018 12:27 AM
i think i remember looking up info about one in phantom brave and not finding anything
12:27 AM
but this was a while ago when i was messing around with disgaea 1 pc stuff
punk7890 2/15/2018 12:27 AM
I found some stuff for both of these before, but missed this somehow
12:28 AM
I'll put on wiki sometime but I won't be documenting all of this, heh. Lots in this menu
punk7890 2/15/2018 1:43 AM
welp, there's a lot more debug stuff in this game than I thought
1:43 AM
1:43 AM
should be a debug menu too still somewhere
1:44 AM
nvm, found it
1:44 AM
1:46 AM
ohhh cool, you need a second controller for that menu
1:46 AM
wow, you can tell this is from the same devs as the Disgaea games with all of these intact options
1:47 AM
wow you can even warp the screen
Luminar 2/15/2018 2:04 AM
Is there any game that took use of more than 2 controllers for debug stuff?
punk7890 2/15/2018 2:07 AM
yes, but I can't recall them all atm
2:07 AM
I think Grandia did
2:08 AM
the last one to come out on PS2
2:09 AM
Shin Megami Tensei 3 does as well for a small debug mode
Luminar 2/15/2018 2:09 AM
Ok then I will check controllers 3 and 4 for jak while debug mode is on, when I get home
Krisan Thyme 2/15/2018 5:03 AM
@punk7890 I mentioned it on twitter, but Disgaea 1 and Makai Kingdom both had these debug menus discovered, so it's cool to see this for La Pucelle.
5:03 AM
Phantom Brave and Disgaea 2 are still a mystery, though
5:03 AM
would be really interesting if one were found for Disgaea 2
punk7890 2/15/2018 6:09 AM
@Krisan Thyme I'll be checking them next for this mode as well. This basically turns the game into dev mode. Opens up everything, everywhere.
Krisan Thyme 2/15/2018 6:14 AM
Yeah
6:15 AM
I'm well aware. I did a lot of tinkering with Disgaea 1 with Xkeeper a year or two back, it was really cool stuff.
6:15 AM
Seeing this for La Pucelle is honestly super exciting.
6:15 AM
So if you find it in any other NIS games, it'll be awesome. But obviously no rush or anything. This alone made my day.
Revenant 2/15/2018 9:12 AM
i thought there was one known for disgaea 2 already
9:13 AM
even though it was still not on the wiki
Luminar 2/15/2018 10:47 AM
@punk7890 did you ever see a game that required you to press multiple buttons on different controllers at the same time to activate something?
Revenant 2/15/2018 10:51 AM
https://tcrf.net/Gambler_Jiko_Chuushinha:_Mahjong_Kouisen
Gambler Jiko Chuushinha: Mahjong Kouisen
10:51 AM
i have
10:52 AM
(just not on a sony console :V)
10:53 AM
probably others that i can't remember offhand, but that one comes to mind just for being pretty physically uncomfortable to pull off
Luminar 2/15/2018 11:11 AM
oh how did one find that button combination for that game?
Revenant 2/15/2018 11:31 AM
finding text strings in the ROM, finding references in the code, working backwards with debugging/disassembly tools
11:32 AM
i used to do that with SNES games a lot (i think at some points i was putting up new debug articles more or less every day)
11:32 AM
i think punk7890 is probably finding ps2 debug modes at the same rate that i used to be finding SNES ones :P
Luminar 2/15/2018 11:38 AM
well I found debug mode for jak games but it would be better if I knew all button combinations... I feel like I am still missing something
11:39 AM
a lot of unused strings refer to stuff that must be possible to do in debug mode but I can't find a way
2Tie 2/15/2018 5:20 PM
Shining & The Darkness (singleplayer dungeon crawler on the Genesis/MD) gives you otherwise-unused joke items at the end of a battle depending on what buttons are held on the second controller
5:21 PM
but that's not really uncomfortable or anything
5:23 PM
woah wait what, that game doesn't have an article? i thought there was one with the broken-in-localization sound test
5:24 PM
oh i'm thinking of shining force re: broken sound test
2Tie 2/15/2018 6:25 PM
hum, i probably have enough stuff to make a SitD tcrf page
6:25 PM
will try to remember after work
punk7890 2/15/2018 7:00 PM
@Luminar It's basically as Revenant stated. Find text strings, backtrace. Most games you can do this with ease, but some games have different methods of calling up text so you can't always do it this way.
cros107 2/15/2018 7:39 PM
hey does anyone know if Mattrizzle is still active anywhere, and how I can contact him? I have a question about mario kart super circuit.
7:40 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:Mattrizzle this guy btw
User:Mattrizzle
FMecha 2/15/2018 7:40 PM
How much is the chance to get Big Show/Ken Shamrock in SmackDown 2 Royal Rumble mode?
7:41 PM
I keep changing my opponents and they doesn't show up as first 4 fighters yet
7:41 PM
And does havnig a wrestler change the chance of getting them?
divingkxt 2/15/2018 10:25 PM
@cros107 He's still here, I believe, but not as active as he used to be.
cros107 2/15/2018 10:40 PM
ok
10:40 PM
well, I found him in the smwc discord but he hasn't ever said anything (edited)
10:40 PM
so I might PM him on smwc
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/15/2018 11:52 PM
whats the best way to rip unused gba graphics?
Revenant 2/15/2018 11:52 PM
very carefully
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/15/2018 11:52 PM
there was some shovelware game from my childhood i played a lot back in the day kek (edited)
cros107 2/16/2018 12:01 AM
Usually unlz-gba works well
12:01 AM
There's a version that's less buggy, idk what it's called though
ƒluƒƒу 2/16/2018 12:49 AM
personally i've always liked gbage
12:50 AM
it's pretty good for compressed stuff
12:50 AM
that said, there are two caveats
12:51 AM
a) it was designed with the gba fire emblem games in mind and i've never thought to test it on much else, so i'm not sure how it'll fare finding that stuff elsewhere
12:51 AM
b) working with palettes is a pain in the ass
12:51 AM
i've never gotten it working or bothered to, but then i am also An Idiot so
leilei 2/16/2018 1:31 AM
Crosstown Heres
LarryLemmy 2/16/2018 6:03 AM
I had a dream about unused content and it makes me feel like a massive nerd
Luminar 2/16/2018 6:15 AM
The only dreams I had about unused content were predictions of the future.
Laenthor 2/16/2018 7:23 AM
Dude around 2009 I had a dream that I found a copy of Mario Galaxy DS.
7:24 AM
As from what I remember, I imagined a more linear game, a bit like 3d land.
GabrielMR, The Last Lorekeeper 2/16/2018 7:26 AM
Hello
Laenthor 2/16/2018 7:29 AM
Hi
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/16/2018 8:43 AM
8:43 AM
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Dezent 2/16/2018 8:51 AM
snicker
GerbilSoft 2/16/2018 8:59 AM
Mmm extortion
Borman 2/16/2018 9:03 AM
Luckily its our policy to not delete posts, should have read the rules in the first place
GerbilSoft 2/16/2018 9:06 AM
https://assemblergames.com/threads/ratchet-and-clank-a-crack-in-press-kit-for-sale-ultra-rare.67608/
US - Ratchet and clank A crack in press kit for sale (ULTRA RARE)
Cancelled
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/16/2018 9:43 AM
my hunger has been satisfied
Meow 2/16/2018 10:30 AM
@GerbilSoft super funny, but the pictures he posted AGAINST THE RULES.. contained his GPS location
GerbilSoft 2/16/2018 10:30 AM
oops
10:31 AM
did you save those
Meow 2/16/2018 10:31 AM
I can't remember I think I did but I can't remember where
GerbilSoft 2/16/2018 10:31 AM
:V
10:31 AM
i always make sure to have GPS location off at home
Meow 2/16/2018 10:32 AM
same ha
10:35 AM
https://archive.fo/s3cyp/b54e917f086199d2529a5bec512dc235118a024c.jpg yup
10:35 AM
I did save it
10:35 AM
not posting that info here, I sent it to shoop
10:35 AM
for when we file a report on him
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/16/2018 10:36 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/16/2018 11:47 AM
hes from australia?
11:47 AM
damn
Drac 2/16/2018 11:51 AM
That's why he is like that probably.
Deleted User 2/16/2018 12:27 PM
`Exif Standard: [TIFF image data, big-endian, direntries=11, manufacturer=Apple, model=iPad (5th generation), orientation=upper-left, xresolution=174, yresolution=182, resolutionunit=2, software=11.1.2, datetime=2017:11:25 19:53:34, GPS-Data], baseline, precision 8, 1067x800, frames 3` Wow, I forgot how handy Linux's `file` command could be...
12:27 PM
Why would you take a picture like that with an iPad of all things?
12:29 PM
(It doesn't seem to have GPS coordinates in what I pasted, which is why I pasted it)
Revenant 2/16/2018 12:30 PM
i use my ipad to take photos because it has a better camera than my phone does
Deleted User 2/16/2018 12:30 PM
That's a good reason then, Rev
Revenant 2/16/2018 12:31 PM
(and naturally i don't own a real camera)
Deleted User 2/16/2018 12:35 PM
Sadly the kid must not have known to post it to Imgur or, y'know, TURN OFF LOCATION.
Rena 2/16/2018 12:54 PM
Why the shit is location saved by default, that's insane
Drac 2/16/2018 12:59 PM
So they can track you more easily
FrostedGeulleisia 2/16/2018 4:10 PM
but I disabled it soon after I realized it's enabled by default
divingkxt 2/16/2018 5:04 PM
http://shrigley.com/source_code_archive/
Chris
Source Code Archive
Andreelikes 2/16/2018 5:43 PM
Is anyone interested of someone doing PC ports of one or more of these games released by Chris?
divingkxt 2/16/2018 5:49 PM
Well, good luck with that.
5:49 PM
They're all coded in Assembly, so porting these is not trivial.
5:50 PM
Read: Low-level coding tied to a specific HW set-up.
leilei 2/16/2018 9:16 PM
hey someone could fix cliffhanger's bad gameplay
9:20 PM
of engine reimplementations that could work out i wish kaiser made a streets of simcity ex
9:21 PM
an engine that uses the game's (awful) data but with a working actual functioning game using it
9:22 PM
and maybe have some sort of cruft to improve the game like maybe using resampling algorithms on the roads then shape the terrain around them etc. so there's curvy roads and terrain that don't look like uniform low-precision heightmaps (edited)
9:23 PM
so you know, the sudden drops in the roads wouldn't be so sudden (edited)
9:23 PM
and maybe support the sea level too
divingkxt 2/16/2018 9:41 PM
For the Genesis level? Sure.
cuba200611 2/16/2018 10:13 PM
The only Cliffhangers that I know is that Arnie movie, and the Laserdisc game that uses Lupin III footage. (edited)
divingkxt 2/16/2018 10:15 PM
The Cliffhanger on the Genesis is the one based on that Arnie movie.
10:15 PM
It and the NES game of the same name suck.
cuba200611 2/16/2018 10:17 PM
Here's the Laserdisc Cliffhanger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd11jYx1b7I
DVG - Dizionario dei VideoGiochi
Cliff Hanger (Arcade) - Longplay - [0035]
justcamtro 2/17/2018 1:26 AM
so uh, have anyone discovered any unused in mario party games by 3ds?
1:26 AM
or its not just popular enough?
leilei 2/17/2018 1:56 AM
cliffhanger starred sly stallone
1:57 AM
arnie's '93 movie was last action hero (edited)
1:58 AM
which also had some crappy games
1:58 AM
which i think had the same devs as cliffhanger (edited)
1:58 AM
at least the same distributor (sony imageworks) (edited)
Hiccup 2/17/2018 4:48 AM
@justcamtro https://www.reddit.com/r/tcrf/comments/7eef7y/scrapped_minigames_in_mario_party_the_top_100/
Scrapped minigames in Mario Party: The Top 100 • r/tcrf
So I was listening to the minigame songs from the game, which I liked. Until I stumbled across 2 songs which I had never heard in the game: Let's...
4:48 AM
originalitybound on the subreddit found some unused music and skipped filenames
Deleted User 2/17/2018 5:59 AM
@leilei Hello.
6:00 AM
You are modder for doom, right?
leilei 2/17/2018 6:00 AM
no
Deleted User 2/17/2018 6:00 AM
oh..
6:00 AM
hmm,.. but you are around doom?
6:00 AM
Because seen you in zdoom forum. Asking here because can't pm you.
6:00 AM
What do you think of quake 3? I am a mapper there.
leilei 2/17/2018 6:01 AM
uhh
6:01 AM
goes back to animating
Deleted User 2/17/2018 6:02 AM
alright
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/17/2018 6:43 AM
divingkxt 2/17/2018 2:56 PM
So...anyone know to get into Panzer Dragoon Saga's data?
2:56 PM
Because I found the debug menu text in the US final version.
2:56 PM
It's already been unlocked in a prototype
2:56 PM
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=17657
2:57 PM
I do note there is at least a CHANGE.PRG and FLAGEDIT.PRG.
2:58 PM
Seems you have to either edit TITLE.PRG or 1ST_READ.PRG. (edited)
3:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC2Lsw3D-iw
Vincent Hamm
Panzer Dragoon Saga debug modes
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/17/2018 3:15 PM
https://youtu.be/gA-sg1qQpnk HOLY SHIT
ImJustATester
Ratchet & Clank 2 - Swarm Gun (Cut weapon)
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divingkxt 2/17/2018 3:15 PM
https://discuss.panzerdragoonlegacy.com/t/pds-debug-menu/7739
PDS debug menu
Heya. I have done a lot of research on PDS engine over the years, and uncovered a bunch of stuff on how the game work. I might have something to show soonish, but in the meantime, I wanted to show some of the debug stuff I found along the way. This is from the retail PDS US, not the prototypes: Now, the way to access those options is pretty interesting. At boot-up, the game check for a save game with a specific name, ANDROMEDA_3, and if it is present check some data in it, and use the result ...
3:18 PM
PANDRA_3_03 or ANDROMEDA_3
divingkxt 2/17/2018 3:55 PM
Also...uh...
3:55 PM
I've been trying to faf around with SSF.
3:55 PM
And Panzer Dragoon Saga craps out after the FMV intro.
3:56 PM
It kicks me back to the Saturn menu.
3:56 PM
Virtual Clone Drive, btw.
divingkxt 2/17/2018 4:09 PM
It seems I am far from the only person who has this issue too.
divingkxt 2/17/2018 4:20 PM
For the record, I'm using SSF 0.12 beta R4.
4:20 PM
It's not copy protection either.
divingkxt 2/17/2018 5:28 PM
旧世紀の記録機械の一種戦った相手の情報を分析・記録する
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 2/17/2018 5:38 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/299780487503806467/414478204015738910/unknown.png ailens in mario maker's files for course world
5:39 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/299780487503806467/414427835986345987/unknown.png splatoon leftovers
5:39 PM
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/17/2018 8:16 PM
@divingkxt I don't know why, but Virtual Clone Drive cannot use on the SSF. it can use daemon tools.
ゲームボーイ64 2/17/2018 8:34 PM
VCD doesn't mount cuesheets, unfortunately @Athena 悠里マヤ (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/17/2018 9:19 PM
I see.
leilei 2/17/2018 9:26 PM
what about mednafen
9:26 PM
i hear mednafen's saturn emulation is up there with ssf
ゲームボーイ64 2/17/2018 9:26 PM
i thought mednafen was just beginning
9:26 PM
time flies, doesn't it?
divingkxt 2/17/2018 9:27 PM
MAME is also rather good.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/17/2018 9:28 PM
mame lacks proper vsmile support so it gets a 1/10 from me
divingkxt 2/17/2018 9:30 PM
Too bad it's the only program in the entire world that supports it.
leilei 2/17/2018 9:30 PM
i'll wait for mame to emulate satellite boxes
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/17/2018 9:30 PM
i'm joking lul
leilei 2/17/2018 9:31 PM
the mpeg2 patent expiring should open up more emulation doors
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/17/2018 9:31 PM
This is the farthest I can get on Alphabet Park Adventure cause it lacks controller support
karmic 2/17/2018 9:32 PM
wow
9:32 PM
i can't imagine a world where you can't play Alphabet Park Adventure, sorry for that dude
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/17/2018 9:33 PM
9:33 PM
Smoke 2/17/2018 9:33 PM
what was one of the v.smile games with a beehive in it (edited)
GerbilSoft 2/17/2018 9:33 PM
nic cage adventures
9:33 PM
https://www.tenor.co/xcy7.gif
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/17/2018 9:34 PM
It was actually Jerry Seinfeld adventures
leilei 2/17/2018 9:34 PM
seeing that screenshot made me think 'is this a wild thornberries jimmy neutron crossover'
9:34 PM
then i zoomed in
Incineroar 2/17/2018 10:36 PM
Nicholas Cage adventures?
Revo 2/17/2018 10:57 PM
hey guys
10:57 PM
https://streamable.com/urr08
10:57 PM
since the decomps are far enough, it was actually possible to restore the wild double functionality in gen 3
10:58 PM
that's what they look like
10:59 PM
its quite clearly unfinished. 1. there's no way to select a specific poke to catch
10:59 PM
it's always the right one
11:00 PM
2. one pokemon defeated means wild encounter is over
ゲームボーイ64 2/17/2018 11:01 PM
Hmm
Incineroar 2/18/2018 12:14 AM
@Revo I remember at one point I tried it in Fire Red and I just had to change a value in ram as a wild battle began and it would work to about the same degree
Engikirby 2/18/2018 12:30 AM
hi
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/18/2018 12:31 AM
ello
Engikirby 2/18/2018 12:34 AM
btw the amount of unused content in action 52. so much.
12:35 AM
it feels like they were unintentionally unused
Engikirby 2/18/2018 12:42 AM
wow super glove ball had a level select? imagine how much of a pain it would be to insert that code with the power glove
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 12:46 AM
probably about the same as the compatibility codes for other games
divingkxt 2/18/2018 12:46 AM
No surprise.
12:46 AM
When you find out Action 52 was made in three months.
12:46 AM
By high school kids who barely had any 6502 knowledge,
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 12:47 AM
i thought they were college students
divingkxt 2/18/2018 12:47 AM
let alone the capability of taking advantage of the NES.
12:47 AM
Nope, high school.
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 12:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLpEn0wmMrk
miiyouandmii2
Action 52 - History of the Worst Game ever made! - From Concept to Console
12:47 AM
ok
divingkxt 2/18/2018 12:48 AM
" He and Raul Gomila employed three college students (Mario Gonzalez, Javier Perez and Albert Hernandez) to do the game design, music, graphics and programming on an Atari ST"
12:48 AM
Oh, nvm.
cuba200611 2/18/2018 12:55 AM
They sound Hispanic.
divingkxt 2/18/2018 12:57 AM
They're from Florida, which has loads of Cuban expats.
cuba200611 2/18/2018 12:59 AM
Yeah, I live there.
cuba200611 2/18/2018 1:19 AM
My father is from Cuba.
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SirenaBeach 2/18/2018 1:35 AM
my mother is from Nicaragua
Engikirby 2/18/2018 2:08 AM
oh wow I didn't know there was an easter egg involving videogamedunkey in sonic mania
divingkxt 2/18/2018 2:41 AM
But removed because it wasn't approved by higher-ups.
2:41 AM
And VGD isn't popular in Japan, FWIW.
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 2:42 AM
VGD?
divingkxt 2/18/2018 2:42 AM
Video Game Dunkey
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 2:42 AM
Ah
cuba200611 2/18/2018 8:53 AM
And what is Video Game Dunkey?
Netscape Navigator 2/18/2018 9:14 AM
some guy on youtube
Deleted User 2/18/2018 10:33 AM
http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com should be pinned in my opinion
Huks 2/18/2018 10:40 AM
Why
divingkxt 2/18/2018 1:10 PM
Video Game Dunkey is "a YouTube commentator, game reviewer, and comedian, mainly known for his League of Legends videos"
1:10 PM
So your basic average gamer dude on YT, but with randumb humor.
Engikirby 2/18/2018 3:17 PM
btw my brother said there was a lot of cut content for secret of mana because they didn't have enough space for it as it was originally going to be for the snes cd (play station) add on
divingkxt 2/18/2018 3:19 PM
That could be true, but no SNES CD games have leaked.
3:19 PM
Either they're lost in the ether or they are locked up somewhere unknown.
Engikirby 2/18/2018 3:19 PM
yeah
3:20 PM
also seeing king arthur knigths of justice I was like "what they actually made a video game on such an obscure cartoon?"
divingkxt 2/18/2018 3:21 PM
I can say the same for Widget.
Engikirby 2/18/2018 3:21 PM
it's rendition of the theme song is kickass though
divingkxt 2/18/2018 3:22 PM
Companies tried grabbing licenses for whatever cartoons were airing on TV at the time.
Revenant 2/18/2018 3:22 PM
i don't think it's likely that any SNES CD version of secret of mana was ever actually developed
Engikirby 2/18/2018 3:28 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_NES_CD-ROM this might say otherwise although it is a wikipedia article and they aren't always right so don't count on it
Super NES CD-ROM
The Super NES CD-ROM System (commonly shortened as the SNES-CD), also known as the Super Famicom CD-ROM Adapter, refers to an unreleased video game peripheral for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES). The add-on built upon the functiona...
3:28 PM
look at legacy
divingkxt 2/18/2018 3:32 PM
It's been posted about quite a bit since it came to light the SNES CD existed at all.
3:32 PM
But the problem is where is the ultimate origin of that story.
3:32 PM
i.e. Japanese magazine interviews?
Revenant 2/18/2018 3:34 PM
it's well known that it was a planned CD game but it was also released the better part of a year after the SNES CD project died
3:35 PM
so i find it hard to believe that much or any of the "cut content" was actually in the game to begin with at that point
Engikirby 2/18/2018 3:35 PM
it was also rumored that some of the cut content went into chrono trigger
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 3:36 PM
oh cool
divingkxt 2/18/2018 3:37 PM
Tough to say without seeing the design docs.
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 3:37 PM
solitaire from windows 200 work in windows 7
3:37 PM
*2000 works
divingkxt 2/18/2018 4:01 PM
No surprise, since it's such a simple game.
4:02 PM
And it works across all 32-bit editions of Windows.
leilei 2/18/2018 4:21 PM
i'm sure the original win32 freecell will work
4:22 PM
also king arthur and the knights of justice wasn't obscure then
4:23 PM
eventually in the 30's there will be a "woah theres games based on spongebob squarepants" crowd
divingkxt 2/18/2018 4:24 PM
Differences being that SpongeBob has a crap load of games.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/18/2018 4:24 PM
makes another 10 seasons
divingkxt 2/18/2018 4:25 PM
King Arthur & the Knights of Justice had only one.
4:25 PM
SpongeBob has two movies, at least ten seasons, and a plethora of fan sites.
4:25 PM
King Arthur & the Knights of Justice - two seasons.
4:26 PM
And maybe a couple of obscure fan sites.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/18/2018 4:26 PM
There's a third Spongebob movie in development too
leilei 2/18/2018 4:27 PM
and the rights are always rotting somewhere to keep it from being streaming
divingkxt 2/18/2018 4:27 PM
At least it has a DVD set though.
4:27 PM
And it's on YT.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/18/2018 4:27 PM
when do we get a motu patlu dvd set
leilei 2/18/2018 4:28 PM
saber rider video game when
4:30 PM
which makes me think, does a doozybots video game exist in some buried proto form (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/18/2018 4:31 PM
how impractical would a motu patlu dvd set be since there's 500+ episodes of it
leilei 2/18/2018 4:31 PM
probably a lazy localization of a sd gundam likely (edited)
divingkxt 2/18/2018 4:32 PM
https://qz.com/1203654/best-buy-and-target-put-the-nail-in-the-coffin-for-music-cds/
Amy X. Wang
Best Buy and Target put the nail in the coffin for music CDs
Best Buy will no longer sell physical CDs after this summer, and Target might follow suit. It's the final goodbye to a golden era.
leilei 2/18/2018 4:51 PM
hopefully lossless is still offered in some form
4:51 PM
though i don't like itunes
4:51 PM
rip retail music
4:51 PM
gonna have to go back to vinyls now (edited)
divingkxt 2/18/2018 4:52 PM
Vinyls are niche at best.
4:52 PM
And lossless doesn't mean much when the audio levels are cranked it up.
4:53 PM
leilei 2/18/2018 4:53 PM
record of loudness war
2
4:54 PM
lts = loudness to senki
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 5:00 PM
itunes offers lossy, vbr m4a files
5:01 PM
it's sad
divingkxt 2/18/2018 5:01 PM
"M4A was generally intended as the successor to MP3"
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 5:01 PM
yeah
Incineroar 2/18/2018 7:22 PM
Isn't wav lossless?
7:22 PM
I kinda hope I dumped my CDs properly
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 7:22 PM
yes
7:22 PM
flac is lossless compression, so it's smaller but sounds the same
Incineroar 2/18/2018 7:23 PM
Might use Audacity to convert to FLAC then
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 7:23 PM
from what I can tell, it cuts out the extra bits in the bitrate that aren't used
7:23 PM
nothing really goes ofer 1100kbps
7:23 PM
*over
7:23 PM
in stereo
7:24 PM
the more bits there are usually comes from the loudness of the song afaik
Incineroar 2/18/2018 7:25 PM
Yeah, this cd doesn't have any loud songs
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 7:25 PM
i don't really know how it truly works, all I know is that it sounds the same as CD WAVs but is smaller
Incineroar 2/18/2018 7:26 PM
I had to dump my Savage Garden cd because it's too scratched up to work in a cd player
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 7:26 PM
lossless compression is things like DTS-HD MA and TrueHD (for movies)
7:26 PM
doesn't use as much space
7:26 PM
but sounds the same as the master tapes
Incineroar 2/18/2018 7:27 PM
I also need to start dubbing my cassettes over
7:27 PM
One of the tapes I received yesterday was well used and sounds like trash
ゲームボーイ64 2/18/2018 7:28 PM
ah
Incineroar 2/18/2018 7:28 PM
It was a good tape too which sucks
punk7890 2/18/2018 7:45 PM
hi
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/18/2018 7:48 PM
ello
Smoke 2/18/2018 8:12 PM
since when did littlebigplanet karting become defunct
divingkxt 2/18/2018 8:42 PM
It's defunct in the sense the servers for multiplayer are shut down.
8:42 PM
But that's not really the purpose of Defunct.
8:42 PM
Defunct means the game cannot be played at all.
8:42 PM
No single player, no multiplayer, etc.
8:43 PM
More importantly, can you play it offline?
Smoke 2/18/2018 8:44 PM
I think so, I dont have the game anymore
Deleted User 2/18/2018 9:16 PM
id check if the ps3 PSN didn't do the "content expired bullshit"
SirenaBeach 2/18/2018 10:56 PM
Say, used objects having unused animations or unseen parts wouldn't really belong in an unused objects article, correct?
Deleted User 2/18/2018 11:23 PM
Unused animations section
11:23 PM
or Model Oddities for unseen parts
11:24 PM
section naming etc. is pretty flexible, just make sure it gets the point across lol
arthur! 2/19/2018 1:28 AM
Where would an appropriate place be outside of TCRF to document something that isn't unused, but people haven't seen before? In FEZ specifically there is a code you can input that makes you fly upward like you had a jetpack lol (edited)
divingkxt 2/19/2018 1:30 AM
I thought TCRF also allowed previously undocumented cheats.
1:30 AM
Well, there's GameFAQS.
1:30 AM
And a bunch of other cheat codes sites of varying liveliness.
arthur! 2/19/2018 1:31 AM
Oh, I wasn't aware of the first part. I may try to add it when I get a chance, then
ゲームボーイ64 2/19/2018 1:33 AM
cheatcc is good, but their ads are very... (edited)
1:33 AM
sexual?
divingkxt 2/19/2018 1:37 AM
At least half of the side content is also pretty sexual.
leilei 2/19/2018 1:37 AM
as in 'play now mi lord MEN ONLY' sexual?
1:37 AM
or "see dragonball fucking sailor moon click here" sexual (edited)
1:38 AM
or "a quarterpounder? i'd hit it i'm a dollar menu guy" sexual (edited)
ƒluƒƒу 2/19/2018 1:40 AM
if it's not all of the above at once they seriously need to have a word with their ad guy
divingkxt 2/19/2018 1:41 AM
Like "you wish you could see some boobs, eh?" sexual.
punk7890 2/19/2018 4:24 AM
I hope previously undiscovered cheats are allowed on TCRF, as I've posted quite a few of those now, heh.
LarryLemmy 2/19/2018 4:30 AM
Holy crap cheatcc, that brings back memories. It was one of the few websites I liked to visit when I was 9. Don't remember it having sexual ads back then though
craigk 2/19/2018 7:23 AM
its no cmgsccc
punk7890 2/19/2018 7:53 AM
Not sure if its worth mentioning on this page https://tcrf.net/Tenshi_no_Present:_Marl_Oukoku_Monogatari , but I found out that you can use these other accessories with that game: GunCON(Konami) GunCON(NAMCO) TSURI-CON JOG-CON
Tenshi no Present: Marl Oukoku Monogatari
7:54 AM
Depending on what controller you have plugged in, that dev text gets put in a spot in RAM
Jacob 2/19/2018 10:49 AM
Hello Everyone!
Dezent 2/19/2018 10:49 AM
hai
Jacob 2/19/2018 10:50 AM
Who likes GameCube games?
Dezent 2/19/2018 10:52 AM
I recently completed MGS: Twin Snakes on Dolphin, does that count?
Deleted User 2/19/2018 11:09 AM
i'd play a bunch if i had a GCN or a wii that worked
Drac 2/19/2018 11:23 AM
Gamecube is best cube
Jacob 2/19/2018 11:46 AM
11:46 AM
Which is your favorite game
Smoke 2/19/2018 11:50 AM
Huks 2/19/2018 12:00 PM
Damn I can't believe there were only four games ever released in the entire lifespan of the GameCube (edited)
Deleted User 2/19/2018 12:00 PM
mine's Super Mario 7, what's yours?
Dezent 2/19/2018 12:00 PM
@Huks You're forgetting Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
12:00 PM
So 5
Lillie's 音MADs 2/19/2018 12:02 PM
And Wind Waker?
12:02 PM
That makes 6
Dezent 2/19/2018 12:08 PM
Oh good point
Smoke 2/19/2018 12:09 PM
You're insane if you forget about Grand Theft Auto IV for the GameCube
old acc! inactive 2/19/2018 12:19 PM
the simpsons hit and run
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 12:26 PM
#games my children
Deleted User 2/19/2018 12:31 PM
wait
12:31 PM
there actually was gta for the GCN?
Smoke 2/19/2018 12:38 PM
no
Jacob 2/19/2018 12:41 PM
lol
12:41 PM
Well
12:42 PM
What's your favorite GameCube Game?
Smoke 2/19/2018 12:42 PM
the spongebob squarepants movie
Jacob 2/19/2018 12:42 PM
I like Super Mario Sunshine it's my favorite game of all time
12:42 PM
12:42 PM
Drac 2/19/2018 12:45 PM
NHL 06
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 12:45 PM
Sonic 06 (edited)
1
1
1
Jacob 2/19/2018 12:57 PM
How dare you speak of such things @CELL Broadband Engine 2006
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 12:57 PM
Netscape Navigator 2/19/2018 1:08 PM
yeah they made six games that's why it's the game cube
1:08 PM
which side you plug the controller in determines which game you play
z20kdc 2/19/2018 1:33 PM
Still waiting for the game hypercube
1:33 PM
With... more games
1:35 PM
probably 8, but I don't tend to work in more than 3 dimensions, so I wouldn't rely on that number
1:36 PM
like, it could be said that a line (region of 1D space) has two sides, a square (region of 2D space) has 4 sides, and a cube (region of 3D space) has 6 sides. So it's probably 8. (edited)
Jacob 2/19/2018 1:42 PM
But there's 4 controller ports @Netscape Navigator
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/19/2018 1:56 PM
@Dezent can you extract some compressed file from TTS
1:56 PM
check what it says in hex editor
Dezent 2/19/2018 1:57 PM
Oh I'm basically a simpleton what comes to checking files in a hex editor
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/19/2018 1:58 PM
i only need like the first 6 bytes
Dezent 2/19/2018 1:58 PM
Hm
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/19/2018 1:58 PM
1:59 PM
eternal darkness uses this cancer compression format which no ones managed to extract yet
Dezent 2/19/2018 1:59 PM
Aaaah
2:01 PM
Well, I'll check it later, got school tomorrow and I really need my sleep
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/19/2018 2:01 PM
at 9 pm?
Dezent 2/19/2018 2:01 PM
I gotta be up at 6am :p
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/19/2018 2:01 PM
dang
2:01 PM
no break this week?
Dezent 2/19/2018 2:02 PM
Nope, next week
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/19/2018 2:02 PM
oh
2:02 PM
we have it this week
2:02 PM
well hope you look forward to it
Dezent 2/19/2018 2:02 PM
Definitely
2:03 PM
Prolly gonna take time off from my online life during that week, maybe longer and concentrate on myself, start being more active, enjoy the winter while it's still here, that kind of stuff
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/19/2018 2:04 PM
>enjoying winter
2:04 PM
slip on your ass trying to walk outside
Dezent 2/19/2018 2:04 PM
Even as much as I hate it, and yes, there is that too, it's still pretty outside :p
2:05 PM
Plus falling on your ass is part of the winter
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/19/2018 2:05 PM
ive had a few close calls
Dezent 2/19/2018 2:07 PM
I slipped this week on my arse, was fun
Jacob 2/19/2018 3:00 PM
Oof
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 3:00 PM
Deleted User 2/19/2018 5:17 PM
best GCN game is odama
5:17 PM
no debate
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:20 PM
Guys, I (sort of) just found something big in Dig Dug II.
5:21 PM
I just don't know how to access it again, but there was some sort of test...
5:21 PM
I'm going to try to access it again.
5:23 PM
It was some sort of sound and pallette test....
5:26 PM
5:26 PM
What the actual fuck
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 5:27 PM
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:28 PM
This doesn't seem to be related to dig dig 2, I think it was made to test the capacity of the bootlegged console I'm playing it on.
5:28 PM
Does anybody know what Aaronix means? I'll see if I can find anything on google.
5:30 PM
https://segaretro.org/Aaronix Could it be related to this?
Aaronix
This teeny-tiny article needs some work. You can help us by expanding it. Aaronix (阿羅士) were a electronics company responsible for distributing Sega's SG-1000 II and Sega Mark III in Taiwan. Little is known about them.
skeletonhugger 2/19/2018 5:30 PM
what console are you playing o-
5:30 PM
I was about to refer to that
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:31 PM
It's some bootlegged NES-looking thing. pics?
5:31 PM
It's one helll of an advanced test...
5:32 PM
It displays the current channel, measures presses per second, and more.
5:32 PM
The current channel of sound, btw
skeletonhugger 2/19/2018 5:32 PM
Does it look similiar to the consoles mentioned on that page?
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:34 PM
There was nothing mentioned except it was partered with <I think> Sega. I would expect something partered with them could produce this quality of test.
skeletonhugger 2/19/2018 5:34 PM
https://segaretro.org/SG-1000_II
SG-1000 II
The SG-1000 II is an updated model of the SG-1000 video game console　released by Sega in 1984. It is internally identical to the original SG-1000, but sports a new outer design. In contrast to the original SG-1000, which featured a hardwired jo...
5:34 PM
https://segaretro.org/Sega_Mark_III
Sega Mark III
The Sega Mark III (セガマークIII) is a video game console created by Sega. It is the successor to Sega's earlier SG-1000 II (itself a redesigned SG-1000), and was released in October 1985 in Japan, before being distributed in South Korea and...
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:34 PM
This is a very impressive test for any basic pirate to achieve
5:35 PM
This
skeletonhugger 2/19/2018 5:35 PM
oh
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:35 PM
It seems to also be testing aliasing <?>
skeletonhugger 2/19/2018 5:36 PM
ok hmm
5:36 PM
is there no other text on it?
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:36 PM
Let me check the console...
5:36 PM
No model identification anywhere.
5:37 PM
I do have the box.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 5:37 PM
btw there's a new animated emote here for all you Nitro nerds
skeletonhugger 2/19/2018 5:38 PM
5:38 PM
Any english words on the box that are names?
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:39 PM
MINI GAME Anniversary Edition ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM
skeletonhugger 2/19/2018 5:39 PM
http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Mini_Game_Anniversary_Edition
Mini Game Anniversary Edition
Mini Game Anniversary Edition Entertainment System model HST-838 is a plug-and-play Famiclone based on the NES Classic Edition. It appears to be made in China for the North American market, but no...
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:39 PM
built-in 500 classic games
5:39 PM
Yes
5:40 PM
That's the ticket.
skeletonhugger 2/19/2018 5:40 PM
it gets a bunch of hits on google
5:40 PM
also for the 500-games version
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:40 PM
This is way too advanced to be created by the creators of this console.
5:41 PM
Would you possibly like a YouTube video of it in action?
skeletonhugger 2/19/2018 5:41 PM
i'm seeing it rn
5:43 PM
Also, anyone ever played Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone on GBC? There's a glitch/bug/whatever in the Hogwarts train that I remember from years ago but can't find any info on it
5:43 PM
You would speak to a certain wall/window (and press certain buttons?) and Harry would end up at Hogwarts, unable to progress the plot
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 5:44 PM
Is it possible- That AARONIX BUILT THIS?
5:45 PM
They are a Taiwanese company, and the manual is in... an eastern language. The earth is also flat, too.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 6:12 PM
i need more ideas for emotes
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 6:14 PM
Skeletons
Luminar 2/19/2018 6:26 PM
:wimpykid:
Halfbit 2/19/2018 7:40 PM
What’s up with these MMBN3 edits on tbe Wiki? They’re so poorly written and rely too much on speculation
YSB573 2/19/2018 8:54 PM
@Joemoebob
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 8:55 PM
Yes?
YSB573 2/19/2018 8:55 PM
I've seen that screen on a different plug n play before
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 8:55 PM
You have? Was it by chance known as a Power Joy?
YSB573 2/19/2018 8:55 PM
actually it was a DreamGear 200-in-1
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 8:55 PM
Hmm... interesting.
Deleted User 2/19/2018 8:59 PM
hi everyone im glad to be here in this discord :>
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:00 PM
ello
Jacob 2/19/2018 9:11 PM
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:14 PM
@YSB573 Tell me, did it have updated graphics?
YSB573 2/19/2018 9:14 PM
nope
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:14 PM
Hmmm...
YSB573 2/19/2018 9:14 PM
just regular nes gfx as far as I could tell
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:15 PM
Damn... if it did, then that would be undeniable proof that it was Aaronix...
9:15 PM
Hmm...
Seil 2/19/2018 9:15 PM
hello everyone! where would be the best place to post research on specific file formats?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:15 PM
https://www.homestarrunner.com/disk4of12.html man i was really hoping to find something unused in this game (edited)
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:16 PM
kek
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:16 PM
i'm probably the only one here who remembers Peasants Quest
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:16 PM
I've always wondered about Stinkoman
9:16 PM
No, I remember
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:16 PM
yey
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:17 PM
I was a wee tyke, still on his Microsoft XP Professional (The best os in terms of design) computer.
9:17 PM
Ah, those were the days.
Smoke 2/19/2018 9:18 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 There's a debugger
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:18 PM
9:20 PM
is there a video
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:20 PM
Why do you have Pumpkin World as your profile picture...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:20 PM
good question
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:20 PM
I'm very sca- HUNGRY
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:20 PM
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:21 PM
I'm getting more disturbed
9:21 PM
Stop
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:21 PM
anyways
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:21 PM
Say, what tool do you guys use to view these files?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:22 PM
ffdec
9:22 PM
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/flash-video-downloader/aiimdkdngfcipjohbjenkahhlhccpdbc and this extension to download them
Flash Video Downloader
Popular Video Downloader. Downloads most popular media formats like flash, videos, audios.
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:22 PM
Neat. Thanks.
Jacob 2/19/2018 9:23 PM
Who remembers Wild Tangent
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:23 PM
np
Smoke 2/19/2018 9:23 PM
i usually use Fiddler and Chrome's caching to get swf files
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:23 PM
owo
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:23 PM
Oh, neat
9:24 PM
Now, how do you open the file>
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:25 PM
open and then navigate to your swf file
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:27 PM
Yeah, but how exactly do I "open" the file. I don't have any player,
9:27 PM
or program to open it with
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:27 PM
not sure on that part
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:27 PM
Ah
Smoke 2/19/2018 9:28 PM
Use chrome
9:28 PM
or something similar
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:29 PM
Okay.
Smoke 2/19/2018 9:29 PM
I use an HTML file to load swf
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:30 PM
lets see whats unused in this game
Smoke 2/19/2018 9:31 PM
"For Placeholder Only"
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:32 PM
wait how did i miss that
9:32 PM
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:33 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:36 PM
Ad
Joemoebob 2/19/2018 9:37 PM
Okay, using chrome did not work
9:38 PM
Maybe Internet Explorer? Shudder
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:38 PM
9:40 PM
...what?
Smoke 2/19/2018 9:41 PM
that occasionally pops up in some unity games
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/19/2018 9:45 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/257002385656774657/415336200660975616/unknown.png jaysus
9:45 PM
he literally disintegrates into nothingness thats metal as fuck
punk7890 2/19/2018 11:42 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/965808715109576704
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Much like the rest of the NIS games I've been going through, I've found Phantom Brave's developer mode. https://t.co/ub1N1PNXvg Enables, once again, some nice treats. Sadly, they took out EDIT in USA ver. Don't worry. I added them back in :).
11:43 PM
0x 2/20/2018 10:21 AM
...
Dezent 2/20/2018 10:28 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT So I looked over a few files from Twin Snakes with a hex editor and I couldn't find anything noteworthy in it... sorry.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/20/2018 10:34 AM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
Smoke 2/20/2018 10:37 AM
@0x try refreshing the recaptcha, it worked for me
0x 2/20/2018 10:51 AM
I know, but... that might be a problem once it shutsdown...
Laenthor 2/20/2018 11:33 AM
Capcha's changing domains or only forcefully updating?
FMecha 2/20/2018 11:34 AM
Captcha v1 is going to be disabled
Laenthor 2/20/2018 11:34 AM
Hun, so just a big upgrade overall
Laenthor 2/20/2018 1:04 PM
Don't know who's more or less responsible of the translation tool, but I want to know if there have been any updates in the last couple of months.
1:05 PM
I want to start translating again but I really don't want to have to go through all of these nasty bugs.
🐮 2/20/2018 2:09 PM
Bonjour, comment allez-vous? I...did not know TCRF had a Discord until now.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/20/2018 2:10 PM
Hello good sir :P
🐮 2/20/2018 2:10 PM
o/
2:10 PM
https://twitter.com/LotsaNintendo/status/964861297245421568 I'm just gonna go ahead and leave this here I could take some pictures but uploading them will be the hassle
Name can't be blank (@LotsaNintendo)
@punk_7890 @OtherEhm Phantasy Star Portable 2. The original Japanese version had downloadable content that you could download from the official website and place on your Memory Stick. The downloadable content was cut from the English version, but can actually still be used with it if the file is
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/20/2018 2:11 PM
The server is fairly new; I made it back in december and transferred ownership to xkeeper :P
4
🐮 2/20/2018 2:11 PM
Ah, I see
2:11 PM
Yet another thing learned
2:11 PM
I love the icon
Hiccup 2/20/2018 3:56 PM
Could I move Proto:Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
3:56 PM
to
3:56 PM
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga/Kiosk demo
3:56 PM
or something like that
3:57 PM
Because, while this demo does have some interesting differences, they aren't "developmental"/"prototype" differences, it seems.
3:57 PM
Just changes made for the demo.
Fadores 2/20/2018 4:52 PM
Hello! I found something in Spyro Year of the Dragon and wasn’t sure if it had been discovered yet, would it be appropriate to ask here if it has been?
Huks 2/20/2018 4:56 PM
Sure
Fadores 2/20/2018 4:59 PM
Alright well I was messing around with the swimming in air glitch and decided to swim up and found that above the home worlds are textures of each of the portals they don’t do anything aside from just being there, even when the levels below are active
4:59 PM
5:00 PM
That’s the texture for the portal for Enchanted Towers
Huks 2/20/2018 5:06 PM
Yeah, that's known
5:07 PM
If you keep swimming up, you eventually run into a copy of the homeworld level itself
5:07 PM
It has to do with the portal and level geometry coordinates looping around once you go high enough
Fadores 2/20/2018 5:07 PM
Interesting! I had no idea!
z20kdc 2/20/2018 5:07 PM
16-bit coordinates are fun like that
5:08 PM
or at least, I assume they're 16-bit (because otherwise you'd probably be going forever) (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/20/2018 5:08 PM
Reminds me of the Parallel Universes from SM64
Fadores 2/20/2018 5:10 PM
I couldn’t find anything on it online so I was like wtf is this?
Laenthor 2/20/2018 6:38 PM
I'm making a SQL database about sorting out bananas for my semester project XD
Video 2/20/2018 7:18 PM
Revo 2/20/2018 7:33 PM
this might not be relevent, but https://github.com/camthesaxman/gbadisasm 's accuracy greatly increased as of today
camthesaxman/gbadisasm
gbadisasm - Game Boy Advance disassembler
7:33 PM
we've used it to assist Fire Emblem 8's split dissassembly getting started today
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/20/2018 8:56 PM
have you looked at TMC
8:57 PM
oh theres ALttP + FS now that i check repos
Revo 2/20/2018 8:57 PM
it still needs a regex/perl data dissassembler from rom.s, but its almost usable for standard compiler setups
punk7890 2/20/2018 11:04 PM
Anyone want to document some Fatal Frame debug menus? Codes on my userpage if you want to play around with them https://tcrf.net/User:Punk7890#Fatal_Frame_.28USA.29
User:Punk7890
Deleted User 2/21/2018 1:12 AM
archive.org has a lot of weird game stuff https://archive.org/details/NBIUS
Necrobius : NeuralEssence : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
Outraged at being denied participation in his own plans to create a living, sentient planet, Professor Necrobius immolates himself along with all records of...
SirenaBeach 2/21/2018 6:09 AM
@sunn The lake in Episodes 7 and 8 in Bianco Hills seems "goopable". I'll try adding a Coo-Coo over the lake later on to see what happens
🐮 2/21/2018 8:06 AM
@Laenthor That is truly cursed
Laenthor 2/21/2018 8:07 AM
?
Halfbit 2/21/2018 9:59 AM
Is it OK to talk about DSiWare ROMS?
10:00 AM
I think those games are LOST FOREVER due to the store being gone
old acc! inactive 2/21/2018 10:09 AM
for most not really
10:09 AM
since they're on the 3ds shop
10:10 AM
but i think there's maybe a few that aren't?
10:10 AM
like flipnote
Halfbit 2/21/2018 10:10 AM
Ah
Laenthor 2/21/2018 11:18 AM
I'm still surprised to see that they'll still maintain the wii shop channel for 1 more year even though in one month you won't be able to buy points anymore.
11:19 AM
I mean if you remove the option of buying points why not stop the service entirely?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/21/2018 11:26 AM
Drac 2/21/2018 11:29 AM
Does anyone know what the serial numbers on OG xbox game cases mean? It's usually a letter followed by two numbers which ID the game, then there's a series of 5 numbers under it.
11:29 AM
I need to know what those 5 numbers represent
Hiccup 2/21/2018 11:30 AM
@Halfbit The undumped ones won't necessarily be lost as long as someone has the title on their DSi. (edited)
11:32 AM
Or if all the CDN stuff gets backed up, then they wont even need the title, just the ticket. The ticket can be used to decrypt the titles on CDN. (edited)
11:33 AM
I.e. they just need to have bought the title at some point, and not formatted their DSi.
11:33 AM
And yes, some are on the 3DS eShop, but some games (or versions) are DSi-only.
Hiccup 2/21/2018 12:16 PM
from the DSi Shop or 3DS?
Halfbit 2/21/2018 12:17 PM
Dsi Shop
Laenthor 2/21/2018 12:54 PM
So since no on answered me yesterday here I ask again: has the translation tool been updated in the last couple of months?
Revenant 2/21/2018 1:06 PM
no
GerbilSoft 2/21/2018 1:06 PM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/switch-web-applet-homebrew.497201/
Switch Web Applet Homebrew
Hey everyone this a discussion on the webapplet homebrew on Nintendo switch I am releasing my own homebrew launcher on the switch on June 1st 2018 it...
1:06 PM
or in other words
1:07 PM
you're making a website
1:09 PM
bonus for all the idiots who read the description and automatically call it fake without realizing what it is
Laenthor 2/21/2018 1:20 PM
rhaaaa... oh well time to deal with annoying saving bugs and useless log entries!
Deleted User 2/21/2018 1:20 PM
I wouldn't say that they're saying FAKE, as much as "Give us proof, man. That's kinda the unwritten world around here." cough boat1hax rickroll cough
1:21 PM
And in their defense, XxBluexX did write it terribly IMO (edited)
GerbilSoft 2/21/2018 1:22 PM
i'm fairly certain most of the people saying 'fake' here were also saying "HAT-001" is a brand new version of the switch that fixes exploits, so... :V
Deleted User 2/21/2018 1:23 PM
I honestly missed that post when it came around
1:23 PM
But yeah, I dunno man
1:24 PM
I think Blue saying "web applet" is also throwing everyone off, since the applet is a system thing, and... Rambles
GerbilSoft 2/21/2018 1:25 PM
what's throwing everyone off is everyone on gbatemp not having a clue about anything
Deleted User 2/21/2018 1:28 PM
That too
1:31 PM
I will say that I at lesat pretend to know what I'm talking about, unlike most of Temp
LinkingHeartZ 2/21/2018 1:57 PM
just a question, is there any specific reason as to why the Wii U should be left out of the Bayonetta page's system tags?
Laenthor 2/21/2018 2:03 PM
It's not exactly the same "edition", but if you find some difference between revisions, ask one of the admins what to do
2:04 PM
I mean there's a lot that can change in almost 5 years
2:06 PM
That's the reason Zelda BotW isn't Wii U/Switch but Wii U and Switch separately (edited)
2:11 PM
Speaking of Bayonetta, I always thought it sounded weird from my perspective as a french speaker. As it turns out, a "baillonnette" ( ll makes a y linking sound, so bayonnette), is this thing:
2:12 PM
Tis' the pointy bit at the end of old rifles. I learned something today!
Revenant 2/21/2018 2:13 PM
it's called a bayonet in english, i always thought it sounded like that deliberately
Laenthor 2/21/2018 2:13 PM
yeah I didn't know what they were, but was Bayonetta intentionnal?
Revenant 2/21/2018 2:13 PM
i assumed it was
Laenthor 2/21/2018 2:14 PM
Jeanne is mostly a reference to Jeanne D'arc (because that's the only french name I see the Japanese video game industry using)
2:15 PM
Hmm...
Deleted User 2/21/2018 3:53 PM
Reference 1 on the BotW page doesn't appear to be the correct URL for the record, and should instead be https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/news/dlc-pack-one-countdown-korok-mask/ (edited)
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Game director Hidemaro Fujibayashi discusses the origin of the Korok Mask and how it works
3:54 PM
Original: http://zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/news/dlc-pack-one-countdown-korok-mask Updated: https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/news/dlc-pack-one-countdown-korok-mask/
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Check out Nintendo's official Zelda universe website, with downloadable wallpapers, a comprehensive Hyrule encyclopedia, and in-depth game info about every one of Link's adventures.
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Game director Hidemaro Fujibayashi discusses the origin of the Korok Mask and how it works
3:54 PM
Which SHOULD be alright, but the Original just redirects to Zelda.com for whatever reason
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/21/2018 4:50 PM
Sooooooo someone managed to dump Ratchet and Clank PS4
4
4:50 PM
There's an absolute fuckton of RAC1 assets in it
Nex 2/21/2018 4:53 PM
@npz
Huks 2/21/2018 4:54 PM
I wonder if Crash N. Sane could be dumped
Luminar 2/21/2018 4:57 PM
Anything I guess
Deleted User 2/21/2018 5:00 PM
`Crash_Bandicoot_N_Sane_Trilogy_EUR_PS4-SharpHD` is a thing, so if someone wanted the Crash dump...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/21/2018 5:01 PM
Deleted User 2/21/2018 5:01 PM
Finds it for himself
GerbilSoft 2/21/2018 5:42 PM
downloads, sells copies on ebay for $50 each
Huks 2/21/2018 5:46 PM
If someone happened to find it then I wouldn't mind a link being privately shared perhaps, purely for research purposes of course
Incineroar 2/21/2018 6:37 PM
@punk7890 so i read the page on SMA4:SMB3 and i did end up pulling up the debug menu for the game, but it's consistently crashing
6:37 PM
i'm not sure if you have ARM knowledge to take 20 minutes and investigate it though
6:39 PM
(I also wonder if other SMA games have debugging modes...)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/21/2018 6:41 PM
it has a debug menu?
6:41 PM
dang
Incineroar 2/21/2018 6:42 PM
yeah, open the game in an emulator, and change the value at 03003774 to 0x34 (edited)
6:42 PM
it seems to be wanting to load levels or something from somewhere, but it's probably probing at a memory address reserved for a hardware debugger (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/21/2018 6:43 PM
was 03 the iwram iirc?
Incineroar 2/21/2018 6:43 PM
i think so yes
6:43 PM
if i'm not mistaken
Hiccup 2/21/2018 6:43 PM
i looked for one in SMA but there doesn't seem to be one
6:43 PM

- just by changing the "current menu" value

(edited)
6:43 PM
I need to do SMA2 and SMA3 (edited)
Incineroar 2/21/2018 6:46 PM
here's the screenshot i took
6:46 PM
it leads to some options, but no matter what I choose it crashes
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/21/2018 6:46 PM
huh
Incineroar 2/21/2018 6:46 PM
and mGBA reports trying to access FFEEA5FE
Hiccup 2/21/2018 6:48 PM
http://hiccup.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Advance_4:_Super_Mario_Bros._3#Debug_Menu
Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3
6:48 PM
someone from the jul translation thread did some translations (edited)
Incineroar 2/21/2018 6:50 PM
I should try doing it on the Wii U VC version and see if it behaves any differently
punk7890 2/21/2018 7:01 PM
@Incineroar I don't have ARM knowledge, sorry. (edited)
7:03 PM
Maybe something isn't initialized properly or it simply is trying to bring up something that isn't in game anymore.
7:04 PM
kinda sounds like its not being initialized properly.
Incineroar 2/21/2018 7:36 PM
That or there's garbage replacing those pointers
7:36 PM
But they're all the same so
7:37 PM
Unless it's a function
7:39 PM
Could be pushing selected values to the stack
LuigiBlood 2/21/2018 8:43 PM
8:43 PM
heh
8:49 PM
It also works on Europe version
LuigiBlood 2/21/2018 9:11 PM
...what are the minigames of the World-e again?
9:11 PM
There's the digging one
9:11 PM
The ball one
9:12 PM
the flying one
9:12 PM
okay
Incineroar 2/21/2018 9:15 PM
i haven't had a chance to try the minigames myself
LuigiBlood 2/21/2018 9:22 PM
With World-E
9:22 PM
when you enable menu
9:22 PM
You can select the minigame map
9:23 PM
Until about 0x19 where it starts to get invalid maps
9:27 PM
Actually
9:27 PM
In the japanese 1.0 version of Super Mario Advance 4
9:27 PM
QUICKCK is not there
9:27 PM
It was added later then
9:31 PM
Collect coins is actually a challenge that made it into the final game (edited)
9:31 PM
After you're done beating all levels
9:32 PM
some of the levels will have a gold coin block at the start
9:32 PM
that block starts the Coin challenge
Incineroar 2/21/2018 9:52 PM
ah
9:52 PM
it's been a while since I 100%'d the game
punk7890 2/21/2018 10:17 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/966512020781654016
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Dark Cloud as well as a debug camera tool. Codes + info: https://t.co/qZHEMbHigN
10:17 PM
punk7890 2/21/2018 10:33 PM
Thanks for the retweets, @Xkeeper . I appreciated it. I do this as a hobby, its neat to see other people like this sort of stuff.
divingkxt 2/21/2018 10:52 PM
https://twitter.com/Ronto_255/status/966323552210239493
ロント (@Ronto_255)
何故かTCRFには載ってなかったけどキャラチェック用のシナリオがあった
10:52 PM
https://twitter.com/chie_arale/status/965803147900870656
Chiel Arael (@chie_arale)
From TCRF; is this really unused? I distinctly remember hearing muffled Virgin child in the locker room leading to Dr. Peace on my first time. I don't think it's false memory, because I was struck by its absence in adrian's run yesterday, too.
10:53 PM
https://twitter.com/AdrianVG1_/status/966175833923686400
AdrianVG (@AdrianVG1_)
@NoMoreSpearows @chie_arale Meant to double check this earlier, but I got distracted... You can hear the muffled Dr. Peace song, but you have to be close to the door. From what I can tell, the version on TCRF is slightly longer since I didn't hear the intro while recording this. https://t.co/zj4uRFBnkS
Revenant 2/21/2018 10:56 PM
boy, "I distinctly remember hearing muffled Virgin child in the locker room" is not a sentence i needed to read without the proper context
divingkxt 2/21/2018 10:58 PM
https://tcrf.net/No_More_Heroes
No More Heroes
10:58 PM
"DR_PEACE_STUDIUM"
ゲームボーイ64 2/21/2018 11:01 PM
sonic studium
divingkxt 2/21/2018 11:01 PM
Very common misspelling in Japan.
ゲームボーイ64 2/21/2018 11:01 PM
yep
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/21/2018 11:16 PM
@divingkxt oh, It is "キャラアニメ全集" or "キャラアニメ大全集" from Custom Robo 1/V2. I am completely forget it.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/22/2018 12:03 AM
Would someone update marked for translation of Custom Robo V2?
leilei 2/22/2018 1:40 AM
i wanted a ps2 just for dark cloud once
Deleted User 2/22/2018 2:15 AM
how the hell are people dumping ps4 games
Meow 2/22/2018 2:31 AM
https://medium.com/@famicomical/dumping-donkey-kong-3-dai-gyakushuu-2d86a2c366b4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LQEHA2AteUTkDbU0JTLIAurTXpOU4iJO/view
Dumping Donkey Kong 3: Dai Gyakushuu – famicomical – Medium
About the game
Donkey Kong 3 Dai Gyakushuu.D88
punk7890 2/22/2018 5:14 AM
Was Dr.Mario 64 only released on the N64 for North America?
5:15 AM
Kinda puzzled about that at the moment since I found a large debug menu for it but its in Japanese + English.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/22/2018 5:24 AM
Yes, Dr. Mario 64 is not released in Japan.
punk7890 2/22/2018 5:30 AM
Huh, that is strange. I wonder why there is a Japanese debug menu.
MysticSageJosh 2/22/2018 5:32 AM
it was released on a japan exclusive disc iirc
5:32 AM
the nintendo puzzle collection or something
5:32 AM
on the gamecube
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/22/2018 5:33 AM
was it not on iQue too?
MysticSageJosh 2/22/2018 5:33 AM
i dunno
punk7890 2/22/2018 5:33 AM
Yeah but in China
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/22/2018 5:34 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Integrated_Research_%26_Development
Nintendo Integrated Research & Development
The Nintendo Integrated Research & Development (or IRD) division handled everything related to producing Nintendo's console hardware and associated peripherals. Originally formed in the 1970s with engineer Genyo Takeda acting as manager, Nintendo...
5:34 AM
if IRD was the dev, makes sense
punk7890 2/22/2018 5:34 AM
ahh it is. Good catch
punk7890 2/22/2018 8:04 AM
Well, here it is if anyone wants to document it https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/966659724379791360
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a large debug menu in Dr. Mario 64. https://t.co/eY9MYehgrx Can edit character stats and AI logic, probably more as well. It needs some proper documentation if anyone is up for the task.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/22/2018 10:07 AM
"Thumper"
ƒluƒƒу 2/22/2018 10:09 AM
love that classic insomniac heavyhanded innuendo
10:09 AM
surprisingly, not sarcasm!
Revenant 2/22/2018 4:06 PM
https://twitter.com/The_Real_TroyS/status/966028664356921346
Nostalgia Troy (@The_Real_TroyS)
This is apparently a Nintendo Test Station....#Retrogmaing #Nintendo #NES
Likes
236
4:06 PM
i wonder if that's what https://tcrf.net/SNSP_Aging_Cassette is supposed to interact with
SNSP Aging Cassette
Deleted User 2/22/2018 4:24 PM
I wonder what the "Super NES Counter Tester" is...
old acc! inactive 2/22/2018 4:41 PM
oh dear
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/22/2018 4:41 PM
what
Smoke 2/22/2018 4:41 PM
4:41 PM
damn\
4:42 PM
you beat me to it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/22/2018 4:42 PM
@Xkeeper DESTROY THIS MAN
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/22/2018 4:43 PM
what did tcrf fail with
/dev/urandom 2/22/2018 4:43 PM
^
Xkeeper 2/22/2018 4:44 PM
idk what y'all are talkin about
4:44 PM
old acc! inactive 2/22/2018 4:44 PM
Xkeeper 2/22/2018 4:44 PM
/dev/urandom 2/22/2018 4:44 PM
tcrf seems pretty successful to me
Smoke 2/22/2018 4:44 PM
must've been a glitch
Xkeeper 2/22/2018 4:45 PM
i wonder who that was
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/22/2018 4:45 PM
no clue
old acc! inactive 2/22/2018 4:46 PM
probably some salty vandal who got banned
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/22/2018 4:46 PM
The grammar was too good to be npzman
old acc! inactive 2/22/2018 4:46 PM
ryanskova?
4:46 PM
nah
Xkeeper 2/22/2018 4:47 PM
oh this person also registered with "tcrf vandaIs club"
Revenant 2/22/2018 4:49 PM
ah yes the person i blocked literally 2 minutes after they registered
Xkeeper 2/22/2018 4:49 PM
yep
Revenant 2/22/2018 4:49 PM
because they thought using a capital I in the word "vandals" instead of a lowercase L made them some kind of bulletproof wiki assassin
Xkeeper 2/22/2018 4:50 PM
i blocked their actual ip address so they can't register
4:50 PM
on a related note why in the fucking christ hell almighty does mediawiki block usernames only by default. you can still sign up
Revenant 2/22/2018 4:51 PM
" Automatically block the last IP address used by this user, and any subsequent IP addresses they try to edit from" is checked by default when you block users
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/22/2018 4:51 PM
the vandaIs club lmao
Revenant 2/22/2018 4:51 PM
does it... not actually do that?
4:52 PM
like i genuinely don't understand why their IP address wasn't blocked after i had already blocked them with the "block user's IP address" option selected
4:52 PM
what else is that supposed to do
Xkeeper 2/22/2018 4:54 PM
no clue, because they used the same ip address to register, i think
Revenant 2/22/2018 4:55 PM
gj mediawiki
RacieB 2/22/2018 5:58 PM
I had to install checkuser for deterring spambots, they often used multiple ips and it seems like the auto mediawiki ip ban is a temp one
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:04 PM
Hey does anyone have an easy way to change HEX to readable Japanese?
GerbilSoft 2/22/2018 8:14 PM
Depends on what the actual text encoding is
8:14 PM
Shift-JIS, UTF-8, etc
punk7890 2/22/2018 8:15 PM
You'll need a hex editor that supports Shift-JIS to read it properly
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:15 PM
I'm a (essentially) a complete newbie to this.
8:15 PM
I'm using HxD
punk7890 2/22/2018 8:16 PM
HxD doesn't support Shift-JIS
8:16 PM
Try MadEdit
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:16 PM
What would you suggest?
8:16 PM
Alright thanks
Revenant 2/22/2018 8:16 PM
wxHexEditor is kind of janky but it also supports sjis
punk7890 2/22/2018 8:17 PM
In MadEdit you'll need to change the encoding to Shift-JIS in the View tab
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/22/2018 8:17 PM
I use Stirling.
8:18 PM
It supported SJIS and EUC-JP.
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:21 PM
MadEdit isn't displaying properly.
8:22 PM
Stirling also doesn't display properly. Maybe it's my system?
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/22/2018 8:22 PM
This encoding is probably Unicode.
GerbilSoft 2/22/2018 8:23 PM
That's UTF-16BE
8:23 PM
What game is it?
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:23 PM
Mario Odyssey
GerbilSoft 2/22/2018 8:23 PM
...I'd expect LE for switch
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:23 PM
UTF-16BE doesn't display properly either
GerbilSoft 2/22/2018 8:23 PM
Oh, it is
8:24 PM
UTF-16LE
8:24 PM
One of the columns was cut off in Discord's image preview
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:24 PM
Ahhh cheers that works perfectly
punk7890 2/22/2018 8:25 PM
For MadEdit you need to change the encoding in the View tab
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:26 PM
yup, UTF-16LE works
Deleted User 2/22/2018 8:26 PM
What Odyssey file are you poking at, @PushDustIn? I'm trying to get the original game dump extracted and I'm quite curious now... (edited)
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:27 PM
I'm just doing a general search, I started off with amiibo and now I'm just going through some various game files to see if there is untranslated text
Deleted User 2/22/2018 8:27 PM
Mind if I PM ya?
PushDustIn 2/22/2018 8:27 PM
Go ahead~ (edited)
Xkeeper 2/22/2018 9:10 PM
oh hey, pushdustin
felineki 2/22/2018 11:11 PM
It's time for "MARVEL HATES EVERYTHING CAPCOM DOES!" #1: Marvel hates that Capcom had the audacity to give Juggernaut the ability to jump! #2: Marvel hates that Capcom turned Kingpin into a giant! #3: Marvel hates that Capcom turned Sentinel from a guy in a spandex suit into a Transformer toy! (edited)
leilei 2/22/2018 11:12 PM
marbles vs cacpcom
felineki 2/22/2018 11:12 PM
These are all actual developer anecdotes, by the way.
PushDustIn 2/23/2018 12:03 AM
Hey @Xkeeper how are things going? It's been awhile since we chatted
Xkeeper 2/23/2018 12:03 AM
it's going, i guess
GerbilSoft 2/23/2018 1:07 AM
So my copy of Bayonetta 1+2 for Switch has a URPH code in the box
1:07 AM
Which means it doesn't work (edited)
1:07 AM
Will need to call Nintendo tomorrow to get a correct code
ゲームボーイ64 2/23/2018 1:14 AM
URPH?
GerbilSoft 2/23/2018 1:24 AM
Yeah
1:24 AM
A bunch of copies were shipped with a download code that starts with URPH
1:24 AM
That's apparently a production line code or something
leilei 2/23/2018 1:31 AM
sounds like another sega blunder for the sega blunder history books (edited)
MysticSageJosh 2/23/2018 3:09 AM
URPH.. what does that sound like
3:09 AM
"urf"
3:09 AM
which sounds like
3:09 AM
O O F
Dezent 2/23/2018 3:11 AM
O O F
MysticSageJosh 2/23/2018 3:13 AM
My brother has Bayonetta 1+2
3:14 AM
And..
3:14 AM
by the way
3:14 AM
I PREDICTED THIS WOULD HAPPEN!
3:14 AM
i was like "Bayonetta 2 is probably gonna come to the switch with all of these wii u ports"
leilei 2/23/2018 3:28 AM
bayonetta = sega witch
3:28 AM
the writing was on the wall
3:29 AM
now when' s evil zone for switch cmon yukes stop taking mcmahon money and make the zone of evil (edited)
MysticSageJosh 2/23/2018 6:40 AM
buy it?
Dezent 2/23/2018 6:41 AM
leilei 2/23/2018 7:50 AM
Laenthor 2/23/2018 8:08 AM
I'm always activly fighting with windows 10. Force quitting the update tasks and the associated service isn't even enough...
punk7890 2/23/2018 8:22 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/967026794271449088
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a hidden level select menu in Mischief Makers. https://t.co/6DOKhC3V14 You can instantly jump to any level using this menu. Unfortunately, it isn't button activated like the sound test is. You'll need a cheat device for this one.
8:22 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/23/2018 8:22 AM
neat
punk7890 2/23/2018 8:23 AM
Yeah, Treasure likes to put stuff like this in their games it seems
8:23 AM
Bummed that it isn't a cheat though
Nex 2/23/2018 8:24 AM
Youre digging up debug stuff like a mad man, good work
punk7890 2/23/2018 8:24 AM
Thanks
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/23/2018 8:27 AM
I try analyse PS1/PS2 simple series. but often there are very few that are left.
punk7890 2/23/2018 8:28 AM
How many does that series have?
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/23/2018 8:28 AM
I have 7 games
punk7890 2/23/2018 8:29 AM
I recall there being quite a bit of Simple Series
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/23/2018 8:31 AM
yeah, There are 104 games in PS1 Simple1500 series.
punk7890 2/23/2018 8:31 AM
neat
8:32 AM
I never did play a lot of PS1 games, mostly the Twisted Metal games.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/23/2018 8:42 AM
I do not have Twisted Metal, but I think I will buy it. I play mostly the Panzer Front in PS1.
GerbilSoft 2/23/2018 8:43 AM
Late but
8:43 AM
The blunder's all Nintendo - they published it
Incineroar 2/23/2018 2:35 PM
I love the fact that I haven't struggled with Windows update on 10
2:36 PM
I put it in its place when I first got it
2:36 PM
Hasn't bothered me since
2:36 PM
Well that's a tiny lie, sometimes it does driver updates that break shit but I've managed to remedy that
2:37 PM
Specifically the Intel integrated graphics updates, for some reason it bugs out and thinks there's like 6 displays attached to laptop
Nex 2/23/2018 2:41 PM
wtf
Revenant 2/23/2018 4:08 PM
"and Romero has commented that John Carmack, when it was his turn to control the office stereo, was more into Prince (as in “the artist formerly known as,” not Bobby)"
4:08 PM
john carmack x stuart middleton otp
leilei 2/23/2018 6:25 PM
to be fair the player in catacomb does wear purple and fights in a purple world
6:26 PM
trying hard to not count the tom hall games for the pure carmack games here (keen wears purple etc) and counting EGA+ where purple isn't a cga enforced softdisk requirement (edited)
6:28 PM
quake's palette has way too many color ramps for purple
6:28 PM
purple is the transparency color in wolf3d (edited)
leilei 2/23/2018 6:36 PM
many weapon muzzleflashes in q3 still emit purple light in the final even though there's 0 guns that shoot purple that isn't a railgun (in early prototypes the BFG and Plasma both shot purple) (edited)
cuba200611 2/23/2018 6:49 PM
Purple seems to be the color of choice for iD, it looks like.
leilei 2/23/2018 6:50 PM
only doom's the real purple exception
6:50 PM
and maybe quake2. maybe
6:50 PM
there's some blue-ish purple in quake2, more eggplanty/blueberry (edited)
6:51 PM
i'm sure carmack really wanted a purple ferrari
leilei 2/23/2018 7:09 PM
as for ken silverman, he's mostly into "weird" al yankovic (edited)
7:10 PM
whether that affects his art direction or not i'm not sure
7:12 PM
hasnt affected his music afaik. no accordions in kdms
Deleted User 2/23/2018 8:32 PM
hey everyone want to hear a funny story. when i was a youngster i posted on the same sonic website as gerbilsoft (sonic classic) and we were aim friends. one day i asked him how to change an apps icon on my desktop cause i knew he was a Tech Dude. and he linked me back a URL like "gerbilsoft.digibase .com/icons" . my friend was over and when i clicked it a window of goatse popped up and started flying around my screen and played the "you are an idiot ha ha ha ha ha ha ha" song over my speakers and i had to cover up goatse with my hands and move it along with the window so my friend wouldnt see goatse cause i thought id get in trouble. Anyway thats my story i got reminded of it when i saw Gerbilsoft in here, love ya gerbilsoft, IDK if you remember me from back then but I was 'darkspir'. I remember you used to say '=P' a lot. No hard feelings thought it would be a funny and off topic story to share in general discussion for unused content
divingkxt 2/23/2018 8:36 PM
Some scripting commands from Star Trek 25th Anniversary: useh.usen.geth.getn.lookh0.lookh0.lookh0.lookh0.lookh0.lookh1.lookh2.lookh3.lookn.talkh0.talkh1.talkn.options.walk
8:38 PM
Unfortunately, most of the data is in DATA.001.
8:38 PM
Which is compressed.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/23/2018 8:39 PM
00F
divingkxt 2/23/2018 9:01 PM
Memory searching also doesn't work for special texts.
9:01 PM
(i.e. the intro)
9:04 PM
A list of room names: klingon.romulan.ckling.orion.pirate1.mpirate.klingon.romulan.elasi.bridgeb.bridge.Captain.klg1.romula.pira.bridge.blank
Tom [MarioDS64] 2/23/2018 11:36 PM
Hello
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/23/2018 11:36 PM
ello
Tom [MarioDS64] 2/23/2018 11:37 PM
What's up?
11:42 PM
I have some big news
11:42 PM
I won these in an auction recently
11:44 PM
11:44 PM
Dammit
11:44 PM
You beat me to it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/23/2018 11:45 PM
quick pull an npzman and sell copies of the roms!
Tom [MarioDS64] 2/23/2018 11:45 PM
But they will get a release
11:47 PM
But I am still in the process to fund the money for it
GerbilSoft 2/24/2018 12:03 AM
hi
12:03 AM
:V
Deleted User 2/24/2018 12:10 AM
Anyone here know if people tested 2 or 3 controllers holding Z on Gamecube's boot? Or various different buttons?
Deleted User 2/24/2018 12:33 AM
welp
SirenaBeach 2/24/2018 12:33 AM
you mean that easter egg?
divingkxt 2/24/2018 12:37 AM
@Deleted User : 2 or 3 controllers holding Z results in the same squeaky toy jingle as holding 1 controller.
Deleted User 2/24/2018 12:54 AM
Fair, cheers
Deleted User 2/24/2018 1:07 AM
ganecune
Revenant 2/24/2018 1:08 AM
gaecue
ƒluƒƒу 2/24/2018 1:23 AM
`gamcab`
Dezent 2/24/2018 1:38 AM
smthshrt (something short)
1:38 AM
:>
punk7890 2/24/2018 1:39 AM
hi
Dezent 2/24/2018 1:39 AM
ohai
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 1:40 AM
hi
divingkxt 2/24/2018 1:41 AM
Hello.
punk7890 2/24/2018 1:41 AM
What's new?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 1:41 AM
/
divingkxt 2/24/2018 1:41 AM
Well... there's a slight uptick in DOS games.
1:42 AM
But yeah, surprised we don't have much for Battle Arena Toshinden.
punk7890 2/24/2018 1:42 AM
I don't think I've ever played a DOS game in my life.
divingkxt 2/24/2018 1:43 AM
I was more of a Mac kid, honestly.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 1:43 AM
my friend and i tried some surgery game
ƒluƒƒу 2/24/2018 1:43 AM
windows 98 generation here, personally
1:43 AM
good times
punk7890 2/24/2018 1:43 AM
I mostly just played SNES/N64
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 1:43 AM
https://youtu.be/vc99nX_eN2k
Vargskelethor Joel
[Vinesauce] Joel - Best of DOS ( Frodo Gets High & Murder Surgery Simulator )
punk7890 2/24/2018 1:43 AM
Heh, yeah. I owned a Windows 95 at one point.
divingkxt 2/24/2018 1:44 AM
Oh yeah, Nintendo 64 too.
1:44 AM
And later GC. (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 1:44 AM
ps2 for me (edited)
punk7890 2/24/2018 1:45 AM
For me it went, SNES, N64, PS1 (never played much), and ps2 for early stuff
1:45 AM
Never owned a NES or GC
1:45 AM
Oh, the GameBoy. I still own one and it still works as well.
1:45 AM
Good old Pokemon days.
1:48 AM
I had a GameBoy (not color) that somehow over time lost its screen. Like, it turns on still but the screen is dead.
1:48 AM
Not sure if that was a common thing or not.
1:49 AM
Probably not. I'm not sure where it is anymore to see.
cuba200611 2/24/2018 1:55 AM
Born at 2000 here, but the first console I ever used was a SNES.
1:55 AM
It was my cousin's.
1:56 AM
I also used a N64 and a Xbox when I was a kid.
leilei 2/24/2018 1:57 AM
there's an early demo of the dos toshinden
1:58 AM
has some leftover debug readouts and has a different font
punk7890 2/24/2018 1:58 AM
1:59 AM
heh, just found this while finding some undocumented cheats
1:59 AM
secret credit room
leilei 2/24/2018 1:59 AM
nightmare creatures had a n64 port?
punk7890 2/24/2018 1:59 AM
yeah
divingkxt 2/24/2018 1:59 AM
A similar credit room is in the PlayStation version.
2:00 AM
So it's not unused, but definitely very hidden.
punk7890 2/24/2018 2:00 AM
yeah seems so. I don't think this cheat was discovered for the PS1 version either?>
2:01 AM
2:01 AM
is what I've found so far
leilei 2/24/2018 2:01 AM
what about the pc ver
punk7890 2/24/2018 2:01 AM
I've seen it listed on GameFaqs for the PC version
2:01 AM
just not N64 / PS1
2:02 AM
I don't have any clue what debug does
2:03 AM
ah it displays some coordinates
leilei 2/24/2018 2:03 AM
cuba200611 2/24/2018 2:04 AM
Speaking of Playstation, how is emulation going on both the PS1 and PS2?
leilei 2/24/2018 2:05 AM
mednafen-psx = god tier
2:05 AM
ps2 = still pcsx2 being pcsx2
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:05 AM
well there's a new ps2 emulator thats still in very early testing stages
2:05 AM
I forgot the name of it
leilei 2/24/2018 2:05 AM
play! ?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:05 AM
no
2:06 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/7to3yy/dobiestation_my_ps2_emulator_showing_its_first/
DobieStation, my PS2 emulator, showing its first signs of life • r/emulation
369 points and 82 comments so far on reddit
2:06 AM
I call dibs on being the first one to beat Ratchet and Clank on it
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:07 AM
I call dibs on your dibs
leilei 2/24/2018 2:08 AM
don't know if the mpeg2 patent expiration would solve some pcsx2 dilemmas
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:08 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328547743964463105/401802755884187658/image.png i was the first dude to beat rac in rpcs3 checkmate
leilei 2/24/2018 2:08 AM
pcsx2 emulating dvd playback would be.....something
divingkxt 2/24/2018 2:10 AM
Probably won't happen for some time, but it would be nice to see.
leilei 2/24/2018 2:10 AM
i haven't dabbled in ps3 emulation
2:10 AM
mainly because i know how encrypted as hell that is to the point i won't be able to emulate my saved games and my owned games
2:11 AM
and i'm not sure how easy it is to dump my ps3's etc. especially since i already keep the firmware to the latest (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:11 AM
Sony provides the PS3 firmware on their website
leilei 2/24/2018 2:12 AM
i'd like to emulate the ps3 saints row 2
2:15 AM
and super puzzle fighter 2 turbo hd remix
2:15 AM
since the windows port promised never materialized
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:15 AM
i have an idea So since I beat RAC1 on RPCS3, I think I'll save Going Commando for Vita3k, and Up Your Arsenal for DobieStation (when they're capable of running those games of course :P)
Deleted User 2/24/2018 2:15 AM
Anyone here happen to know much about Gamecube modchips? I'm wanting to buy one, and I kinda want to play ISOs instead of actual discs. Laser preservation, and stuff like that
leilei 2/24/2018 2:19 AM
also pcsx2 couldn't emulate ps2 linux last time i tried
2:20 AM
i wanted to emulate the linux in emulators because
2:20 AM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
2:20 AM
curious about capabilities and homebrew
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:21 AM
"yo dawg, we heard you liked emulating"
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:21 AM
if you do decide to get into ps3 emulation please stay away from their discord lmao (edited)
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:21 AM
What's so bad about that place?
leilei 2/24/2018 2:21 AM
emulation discords are generally garbage considering the common subject of motivation for emulation
2:21 AM
tcrf is different. we emulate to discover
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:21 AM
It's filled with edgelord weebs and toxic community members
2:22 AM
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:22 AM
Toxic cesspool of people, gotcha
2:22 AM
lawl
leilei 2/24/2018 2:22 AM
that's been the case for 20+ years sadly
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:22 AM
Sounds fun
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:22 AM
People with green names donated to their Patreon
leilei 2/24/2018 2:22 AM
well, maybe less weeby 20 years ago
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:23 AM
Basically, if 4chan was a Discord server
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:23 AM
Sounds absolutely super
divingkxt 2/24/2018 2:23 AM
Even 20 years ago, there was a decent amount of weebiness to it, but it was definitely harder to notice then.
leilei 2/24/2018 2:23 AM
i quit one emulation discord a year ago because my pcem screenshots gave someone a toxic selfpromotinghostilefork heartattack (edited)
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:24 AM
Story time?
leilei 2/24/2018 2:24 AM
nah
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:24 AM
Oh yeah, that reminds me of what one particular user did in that server
leilei 2/24/2018 2:24 AM
the toxic weebs ~20 years ago wanted their dbz boutden / gt final bout working on their packard bell /emachine and they wanted it now (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:25 AM
So this guy has the bright idea of posting a NSFW meme of a dead grandmother in a casket, with this dude dancing on top of it ---->
2:25 AM
I tell him to not post NSFW content, and how does he respond?
2:25 AM
He sends me gory dead body pics in my DMs
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:26 AM
2:26 AM
What did he hope to accomplish with that
leilei 2/24/2018 2:26 AM
you can probably report to discord themselves about it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:27 AM
eh, it was back in July and he deleted the dead body almost instantly
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:28 AM
oh
leilei 2/24/2018 2:29 AM
when i was researching the 3dfx filter and reimplementing it in code and showing wip screenshots, the response i usually got was "fuck you code for my emulator fuck you were better we have features", to put it simply (edited)
divingkxt 2/24/2018 2:30 AM
Stuff like that makes me want code a "make your own emulator" thingy to show how difficult it is to truly write it. (It would involve a scripting language.)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:30 AM
just code a ps3 emulator in html5
2:31 AM
ezpz
2:31 AM
Dezent 2/24/2018 2:31 AM
2:31 AM
inb4 challenge accepted
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:32 AM
i'm gonna make my ps4 emulator run in Adobe Flash
divingkxt 2/24/2018 2:32 AM
Starting to get pretty off-topic here.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 2:32 AM
2:33 AM
TO #deleted-channel
2:33 AM
​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyAD87_zfek
Mitico cagao
Batman Transition + download sound link
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 4:00 AM
I found debug text output and unused sound in PS2 Chikyuu Bouei Gun 2.
4:00 AM
but Unused sound (Voice clip) is very scary for me.
dom 2/24/2018 4:04 AM
Post
Dezent 2/24/2018 4:04 AM
Define "scary"
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 4:06 AM
dom 2/24/2018 4:07 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 4:07 AM
There are 60 voice clips.
Dezent 2/24/2018 4:08 AM
That voice clip
4:08 AM
nope
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 4:08 AM
I think these voice clips use for the enemy. (edited)
Dezent 2/24/2018 4:08 AM
Definitely very unsettling
punk7890 2/24/2018 4:39 AM
wow heh
punk7890 2/24/2018 5:33 AM
That game looks like Earth Defense Force you posted, @Athena 悠里マヤ . I guess its from the same developers.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 5:34 AM
Yes, The Chikyuu Bouei Gun is "Earth Defense Force".
punk7890 2/24/2018 5:34 AM
Ah neat
5:35 AM
001928C4 0C0649C4 should be 201928C4 0C0649C4 since its 32 bit
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 5:35 AM
oh Thank you!
punk7890 2/24/2018 5:35 AM
np
5:36 AM
0 is 8 bit, 1 is 16 bit, 2 is 32 bit constant write
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 5:37 AM
I see!
punk7890 2/24/2018 5:39 AM
http://www.codemasters-project.net/portal-english/apportal/cmp_plugins/content/content.php?content.23
5:39 AM
there's a list of PS2 code types if you're interested
5:39 AM
Not sure if they all work for emulators though
5:40 AM
most common are D, E, 0, 1, 2 code types
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 5:40 AM
It is the same as PSP's cheat code rule. (edited)
punk7890 2/24/2018 6:34 AM
seems like it
punk7890 2/24/2018 6:55 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/967367090649710593
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found 11 undiscovered cheats in Nightmare Creatures (N64) https://t.co/RprwZwFH7q Interestingly, none of these are enabled through the password screen, but are inputs at the main menu. One cheat also enables a hidden developer room with dev messages.
6:55 AM
6:55 AM
Always neat to find cheats
6:55 AM
that anyone can input, without cheat devices
AxelFrog 2/24/2018 6:56 AM
Hey, so does anyone here exactly know how to decompile a ps2 rom? Because i want to see if there are any unused music, models etc in "WALL-E: the video game"
punk7890 2/24/2018 6:56 AM
Not all games work like the other. Most need different tools.
6:57 AM
What does the audio folder look like (if it has one)?
AxelFrog 2/24/2018 6:57 AM
Dont know yet because idk how to decompile it. i have never done it before so..
punk7890 2/24/2018 6:58 AM
Stick the dvd into your PC and it'll open up the files on it.
AxelFrog 2/24/2018 6:58 AM
Alright, gonna do that then.
punk7890 2/24/2018 6:59 AM
Also, a music rip of that game appears to be on Joshw.
6:59 AM
Might be easier to grab from there.
AxelFrog 2/24/2018 7:02 AM
Okay
AxelFrog 2/24/2018 7:17 AM
I seriously found every single ps2 game i own except for Wall-E. Just when i needed it the most
punk7890 2/24/2018 8:29 AM
Would anyone happen to know what this text refers to? It's from the Zelda debug ROM. It's among the level select text and its encoding is EUC.
8:29 AM
( the Japanese Katakana)
8:30 AM
Might be nothing but there is some words in there.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 8:31 AM
"Bメンヲセットシテクダサイ" Please set B-side.
8:31 AM
It is seems to Famicom Disk System games.
punk7890 2/24/2018 8:32 AM
64DD maybe?
Revenant 2/24/2018 8:32 AM
at the top しばらくお待ちください。ちょっと待てね。ウェイト
8:32 AM
or something
punk7890 2/24/2018 8:32 AM
yeah just not sure what it all refers to
Revenant 2/24/2018 8:32 AM
(different variations of "please wait")
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 8:33 AM
ウェイトアモーメント　ロードチュウ Wait a moment loading now
punk7890 2/24/2018 8:33 AM
What the heck
8:33 AM
very strange
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 8:33 AM
maybe 64DD.
Revenant 2/24/2018 8:33 AM
yeah looks like 64dd disk stuff
punk7890 2/24/2018 8:33 AM
neat
Revenant 2/24/2018 8:33 AM
probably just devkit detritus
punk7890 2/24/2018 8:33 AM
yeah
Revenant 2/24/2018 8:38 AM
i guess one could speculate that it relates to the cancelled "Ura Zelda" somehow but it seems more likely just stuff that nintendo had in their dev libraries since the 64DD had already been in development for a while at that point
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 8:38 AM
https://ksnk.jp/ddlab/hard/unre.html
8:38 AM
ゼルダの伝説64 NINTENDO64発売当初から、任天堂によって64DD用に開発されていた。1995年末のスペースワールドにて、1996年末に64DD本体と同時発売されると発表された。
8:39 AM
Zelda no Densetsu 64 for 64DD.
punk7890 2/24/2018 8:39 AM
there's some other 64DD stuff found that's on TCRF
8:39 AM
not sure about this one though
8:39 AM
like a unused Disk file select icon
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/24/2018 8:40 AM
ゼルダの伝説DD NINTENDO64専用カセット『ゼルダの伝説 時のオカリナ』の拡張ソフトとして、任天堂により開発されていた。「裏ゼルダ」とも呼ばれる。「時のオカリナ」にダンジョンマップが追加され、より手ごたえのある攻略を楽しめたらしい。
8:40 AM
Ura Zelda is this one.
8:41 AM
Expansion for Zelda no Densetsu Toki no Okarina.
punk7890 2/24/2018 8:41 AM
yeah
Deleted User 2/24/2018 8:41 AM
I'd double check retail Zelda and then probably another first party game for the same text
notwa 2/24/2018 8:51 AM
that's part of the ovl_select overlay which is map select, also just so you know, your rom is the hack with the patched english names (edited)
notwa 2/24/2018 9:00 AM
it seems to be in all the map select files, up to the MM gamecube version even
goob 2/24/2018 9:25 AM
9:26 AM
Not sure if this has been found yet, the destroyed Taxis in Odyssey show a different number than what's used when seen through the coin filter
Hiccup 2/24/2018 9:35 AM
If its added to the page, RandomTalkingBush might have a look the model. (edited)
9:36 AM
Could you post a screenshot of the original number?
Hiccup 2/24/2018 9:45 AM
@goob
goob 2/24/2018 9:53 AM
9:54 AM
I assume this is just like the graffiti texture where it's an older asset, though I'm not sure what the original number could mean
GerbilSoft 2/24/2018 12:33 PM
What is 6258 a reference to
divingkxt 2/24/2018 12:35 PM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/965650905507876864
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
Just to give you an idea of how visible these textures are in the average cutscene, here's a framebuffer screenshot with shaggy's face textures for scale.
12:35 PM
I have some insight as to why this happens.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 12:35 PM
lul (edited)
divingkxt 2/24/2018 12:36 PM
It's a surprisingly common occurrence for artists to make textures bigger than they should be.
12:36 PM
Especially newcoming artists.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 12:36 PM
https://youtu.be/dYboIR92vaE every time i see those models i immediately think of this video
Cyber 8
Fred makes Pizza
divingkxt 2/24/2018 12:37 PM
When these people do textures, they're either not aware of what the system can handle or are overly concerned about detail.
12:38 PM
They may also not be aware of what the system does to graphics. In this case, mipmapping .
12:38 PM
Programmers and artists get into debates about how large a texture should be.
12:38 PM
An extreme example being Daikatana, of course.
Huks 2/24/2018 12:40 PM
Also the artists probably made those textures highly detailed just in case there happened to be close-ups of the character's faces anywhere in the game
divingkxt 2/24/2018 12:40 PM
That's not to say these aren't talented people, just to say that they may not be aware as to how much effort it required to get that detail rendered by the consoles.
12:40 PM
That is true.
12:41 PM
But sometimes, smaller versions of these textures might not be made, in the scenario that mipmapping has to be done through SW.
12:45 PM
In that case, it's wasting precious (V)RAM on detailed textures that most players wouldn't see without cheating.
12:50 PM
Also, there may not even be time to shrink the textures down to save space or even efforts against shrinking these down.
divingkxt 2/24/2018 2:55 PM
http://theyurei.com/index/index.php/2017/09/20/people-still-finding-new-content-silent-hill-ps1/
People are still finding new content in Silent Hill (PS1) [Game News] - The Yurei
Last week, a user named roocker666 posted on my Silent Hill forum, SilentHillCommunity.com, to say he’d found previously-unknown, unused content in the first Silent Hill game using a SH-hacking tool. Kotaku even posted about it.[...]
Smoke 2/24/2018 3:54 PM
Nex 2/24/2018 4:14 PM
poor chris
leilei 2/24/2018 4:59 PM
my favorite old game's large texture is the 2048x2048 water bed in giants citizen kabuto (2000)
5:00 PM
which iirc was flippd in 4 quarters
5:00 PM
which could've been done in the uvs instead
5:00 PM
that game was notoriously slow in the day
divingkxt 2/24/2018 5:04 PM
Newcoming programmers and artists may not be aware of UVs.
leilei 2/24/2018 5:07 PM
couldve sworn it wa slarger
5:07 PM
still, an uncompressed 1024x1024x24 is a ridiculous texture format for 2000
5:08 PM
and if you zoom in you'll spot jpeg artifacts. it was a tga
5:09 PM
also mobyshots bot tweeted something funny out of top 20 solid gold excrements https://twitter.com/mobyshots/status/967491554674991104
Mobygames Screenshot (@mobyshots)
Planetoids is based on the game Space Guard Top 20 Solid Gold (Windows 3.x, 1996) https://t.co/RQjvm1mIN6
divingkxt 2/24/2018 5:10 PM
TGA
5:10 PM
So uncompressed and taking up WAY too much memory.
5:11 PM
Makes me wonder if MDK just has everything uncompressed and no one noticed until now/the future.
leilei 2/24/2018 5:12 PM
i think mdk streams the stuff in and out
5:13 PM
and it's paletted anyway
5:14 PM
and jamming compression on data for pc games isn't always ideal
5:14 PM
longer loading times and there's the lack of hardware
5:15 PM
the most compressed format you could have would be adpcm playback on creative sound cards back then (edited)
🐮 2/24/2018 5:15 PM
Those unused FFXIII cutscenes are hilarious
leilei 2/24/2018 5:17 PM
the only unused things i can think about of the ffxiii and ffxv games are the unused nudity (edited)
5:18 PM
since those were the earliest things dug out of those games
5:18 PM
thanks dick
5:19 PM
haven't checked if tcrf covered those already
Nex 2/24/2018 5:23 PM
someone ages ago added one of my ffxv videos to the article lol (edited)
🐮 2/24/2018 5:24 PM
Wasn't there some unused elderly nude lady in the FFXV files
5:24 PM
She had some sort of story relevance but I wouldn't know about any of that because I have not played the game
Nex 2/24/2018 5:24 PM
its just a character in the game but with clothes removed
leilei 2/24/2018 5:25 PM
square modeling more than they needed to as usual
5:25 PM
this goes as far back as nvidia's dawn demo which they were involved with in '02 (edited)
5:28 PM
shouldn't the esrb be rerating the game to M after the discovery like they did oblivion
Nex 2/24/2018 6:15 PM
the oblivion model doesn't even have nipples and its unused lmfao
leilei 2/24/2018 6:32 PM
it's the more discovery of the male texture lining up
6:33 PM
keep in mind this was around the hot coffee panic
divingkxt 2/24/2018 6:40 PM
And America is extra-sensitive toward nudity.
leilei 2/24/2018 6:45 PM
it briefly implied a terrible precedent that any modder could get a game rerated M/AO making it possible to sabotage the market (edited)
6:45 PM
which hasn't really happened since
6:46 PM
better bodies still hasn't changed morrowind
MysticSageJosh 2/24/2018 7:05 PM
bruh
7:05 PM
modders have already done stuff that makes a game M/AO
7:06 PM
look at cough DOA volleyball
7:06 PM
and that was
7:06 PM
on like..
7:06 PM
xbox?
leilei 2/24/2018 7:07 PM
oh i'm already aware of the decades of nude/sex patches (edited)
7:07 PM
it's just oblivion was initially rated T, and released just around hot coffee, a moment when media was regurgitating jack thompson's alarmism (edited)
7:08 PM
and the nudity depends on the context and perspective
7:09 PM
not one controversy was spawned from the succubi in the diablo series
7:13 PM
the 00s were a decade of edgedorkery (edited)
7:17 PM
no thanks to acclaim, sierravivendi and gatheringofdevelopers and rockstartake2 (edited)
punk7890 2/24/2018 7:19 PM
hi
🐮 2/24/2018 7:19 PM
hello
leilei 2/24/2018 7:19 PM
it's me
🐮 2/24/2018 7:20 PM
Who's me
MysticSageJosh 2/24/2018 8:00 PM
Jack Thompson..
8:00 PM
that guy needs to get laid
🐮 2/24/2018 8:15 PM
Who?
ゲームボーイ64 2/24/2018 8:17 PM
the guy that hates video games
divingkxt 2/24/2018 8:18 PM
The infamous lawyer who proclaimed games had gotten too violent.
8:19 PM
And this was negatively affecting the cognitive development of children.
ゲームボーイ64 2/24/2018 8:22 PM
even though the people that actually did the terrible things actually needed psychological help, and not some video game ban
8:22 PM
he refused to believe that (edited)
punk7890 2/24/2018 8:22 PM
Thing is, there is ESRB ratings for a reason. Parents don't heed their ratings.
ゲームボーイ64 2/24/2018 8:23 PM
some don't
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 8:23 PM
Here's some political cartoons most likely made by a 70 year old conservative who has never touched a video game in his life
ゲームボーイ64 2/24/2018 8:24 PM
go figure
divingkxt 2/24/2018 8:28 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 The first one is a satire of conservative cartoons
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 8:29 PM
oh
8:30 PM
The only thing its lacking is that hideous political cartoon artstyle
8:30 PM
divingkxt 2/24/2018 8:36 PM
I could fit in at least a handful of other art styles.
🐮 2/24/2018 8:48 PM
Yikes, jeez, ew
8:48 PM
I somehow hadn't ever heard of him before
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 8:48 PM
​https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/196365684370833409/406649580692963328/DwmDIUv-4.gif
1
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1
1
1
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ゲームボーイ64 2/24/2018 8:49 PM
it is legitimately hard not to (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 8:49 PM
who
ゲームボーイ64 2/24/2018 8:49 PM
eww goanimate
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 8:50 PM
how dare you make fun of goanimate
ゲームボーイ64 2/24/2018 8:50 PM
too bad
🐮 2/24/2018 8:50 PM
Groudeid
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 8:50 PM
thats it you're grounded grounded grounded grounded for 9162729181619192737282829102037 years
8:50 PM
now go to your room
Revenant 2/24/2018 8:50 PM
i forgot the N, sorry
🐮 2/24/2018 8:50 PM
I have no room
8:51 PM
I'll gladly take a spare though
ゲームボーイ64 2/24/2018 8:51 PM
i'm in my room already
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 8:51 PM
YSB573 2/24/2018 10:42 PM
tcrf is down
divingkxt 2/24/2018 10:43 PM
Down for many Canadians atm.
YSB573 2/24/2018 10:44 PM
I live in california
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/24/2018 10:44 PM
TO HELP YOU REMAIN TRANQUIL IN THE FACE OF ALMOST CERTAIN DEATH, SMOOTH JAZZ WILL BE DEPLOYED IN THREE
10:44 PM
TWO
10:44 PM
ONE
10:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPxVMpeVRGI
fdsman
Portal 2 - Smooth Jazz
YSB573 2/24/2018 10:44 PM
gotta blast
divingkxt 2/24/2018 11:15 PM
AFAIK no.
SirenaBeach 2/24/2018 11:53 PM
it was down for me too at that time. odd
Xkeeper 2/24/2018 11:59 PM
i'm looking into it
12:02 AM
12:02 AM
nothing is really standing out
divingkxt 2/25/2018 12:12 AM
Except for a really sudden jump.
SirenaBeach 2/25/2018 12:14 AM
maybe it was an ISP error instead
Xkeeper 2/25/2018 12:14 AM
it sounds like it might be dns related i guess
SirenaBeach 2/25/2018 12:14 AM
yeah
Revo 2/25/2018 12:42 AM
does anyone have any idea what this 8 byte string might be?
12:42 AM
12:42 AM
`41 46 4A 46 53 46 5C 46`
12:42 AM
its right where main.c's rodata is declared in FE8
12:42 AM
it is beside the timestamps and build dates
12:42 AM
so i thought it was some standard build info
12:42 AM
but i dont know what format it could be
divingkxt 2/25/2018 12:43 AM
It doesn't seem to mean anything.
Revo 2/25/2018 12:43 AM
maybe randomly generated weird checksum, if anything
divingkxt 2/25/2018 12:44 AM
Possibly, but tough to say without looking at other Nintendo GBA games with similar strings.
Revo 2/25/2018 12:44 AM
the pokemon games don't have this
12:44 AM
they have a single timestamp
12:45 AM
FE8 references these 2 strings seperately because they're printed to the screen in the debug menu
12:45 AM
`#include "global.h" #include "functions.h" #include "variables.h" void PrintDebugBuildDateAndTime(u16 *bg) { PrintDebugStringToBG(bg, gBuildDateTime); PrintDebugStringToBG(bg - 0x20, gYearProjectCreated); // subtract to print to the line above. }`
12:45 AM
Revenant 2/25/2018 12:47 AM
if you read them as little endian int16s they're all values 9 apart
12:47 AM
if that's significant at all
Revo 2/25/2018 12:48 AM
i noticed that earlier but i wasn't sure what to make of it
12:48 AM
could be something stupid like 4 16-bit values recording the time it took to build the ROM
12:48 AM
for all i know
divingkxt 2/25/2018 3:15 AM
https://tcrf.net/Felix_the_Cat_(NES)
Felix the Cat (NES)
3:15 AM
I was this close to deleting it, but I did find something hidden within.
Tea Scum 2/25/2018 3:29 AM
is there some queue where games for investigation could be suggested to?
Huks 2/25/2018 3:43 AM
There's https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Content_to_expand for games in which content of interest is known to exist
The Cutting Room Floor:Content to expand
Tea Scum 2/25/2018 3:51 AM
that game just doesn't have any page on tcrf and it's a multi disc psone game so maybe something could've been there... can i just add it there then or do i need to find some points of interest myself first?
Hiccup 2/25/2018 4:28 AM
Probably best to see if it has anything
4:28 AM
Otherwise it'd become simply a list of games
Tea Scum 2/25/2018 4:40 AM
i guess i need to read up on how to do it then
4:40 AM
):
AxelFrog 2/25/2018 5:15 AM
Hey, Shouldnt Sonic Forces also be on the list? I mean the wikia describing beta content is now more accurate then tcrf's page. With stuff added such as an unused skybox for Sunset Heights.
leilei 2/25/2018 5:21 AM
don't trust wikias
5:21 AM
that's where unverified delusions may live
AxelFrog 2/25/2018 5:25 AM
I know, but most things on that specific wikia is true, provided along with pictures. Only thing that seemed fishy is that it claimed to have unused voice clips of Shadow Narrating. Even tho there were no voice clips provided for that.
5:26 AM
hell, it includes some things that i discovered on my own already such as those unused voice clips for Virtual Reality
punk7890 2/25/2018 7:28 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/967736880778289152 some simple debug displays. Remnants of debug menu functions.
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found some debug displays in Silpheed: The Lost Planet. Codes are on TCRF: https://t.co/BoBIxctOqq
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/25/2018 7:41 AM
neat
punk7890 2/25/2018 7:44 AM
sadly, looks like that debug menu might not be able to work though. If you're interested, I left a todo on the tcrf page. (edited)
punk7890 2/25/2018 7:52 AM
bleh, these PS2 Treasure games have debug menus but aren't ever called
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/25/2018 7:53 AM
I see.
punk7890 2/25/2018 7:54 AM
yeah, they aren't always easy to get working again
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/25/2018 7:54 AM
I try to check now. but I have JP version only.
punk7890 2/25/2018 7:54 AM
look for "STAGE SELECT"
7:54 AM
that's the debug menu
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/25/2018 7:55 AM
I see. Thank you.
punk7890 2/25/2018 7:56 AM
7:56 AM
that's basically all I could figure out
7:57 AM
game slows to a crawl because its not called correctly
7:59 AM
ugh, Gradius V. Same stuff happening. It's sad to look at
LuigiBlood 2/25/2018 9:29 AM
how do you guys even find these
9:29 AM
It's like you're making it easy (edited)
Deleted User 2/25/2018 9:39 AM
Punk 2 good
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/25/2018 11:04 AM
@punk7890 I did open the "STAGE SELECT" menu, but Freeze the game after selecting a stage. (edited)
11:06 AM
STAGE SELECT function is not exit while selecting.
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/25/2018 11:28 AM
Silpheed PS2 Pad
Jacob 2/25/2018 12:01 PM
12:02 PM
If only we had SDKs for old gaming systems so we could decompile them easier,
12:02 PM
I'd want a GameCube SDK
12:03 PM
12:04 PM
Who can guess this game?
Smoke 2/25/2018 12:04 PM
Bloons Tower Defense 7
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/25/2018 12:14 PM
@punk7890 I did it! "STAGE SELECT" menu and Pad test menu are worked. but It is a little forced way. and These functions are call "DEBUG WINDOW" function but It can't control.
Jacob 2/25/2018 12:18 PM
It's Super Mario 63!
12:19 PM
and @Athena 悠里マヤ
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/25/2018 12:19 PM
gmod tower had that game in the arcade iirc
12:20 PM
along with portal the flash version
Smoke 2/25/2018 3:54 PM
z20kdc 2/25/2018 4:10 PM
...what game is that, and why do I get the feeling the British had something to do with it
Smoke 2/25/2018 4:12 PM
3 on 3 NHL Arcade Demo
divingkxt 2/25/2018 4:33 PM
stop being a knob
z20kdc 2/25/2018 4:41 PM
...to be fair, I assume there must have been a lot of penalties before that triggers
Deleted User 2/25/2018 6:07 PM
can i have a server invite link?
divingkxt 2/25/2018 6:08 PM
You can get it straight from TCRF.
Deleted User 2/25/2018 6:08 PM
oh really. thank ya
divingkxt 2/25/2018 6:09 PM
How long do you want it to last? (edited)
Deleted User 2/25/2018 6:10 PM
well i was grabbing the invite because a person on another server had a question about peeking through n64 files
6:10 PM
so.....i guess a temp link?
deadaccountbye 2/25/2018 6:14 PM
Greetings, I'm the dude who had that doubt.
6:16 PM
Good. I was looking at some way to extract the files of a game, exactly the audio files.
divingkxt 2/25/2018 6:17 PM
http://goldeneyevault.com/viewfile.php?id=212
🐮 2/25/2018 6:17 PM
boy https://twitter.com/PixelButts/status/967847727622057984
PixelButts (@PixelButts)
Behold the oldest functional PS3 XMB we know of 0.85 (085.007)
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deadaccountbye 2/25/2018 6:18 PM
Seriously, thank you very much!
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/25/2018 6:22 PM
is the italics some kind of deep reference (edited)
🐮 2/25/2018 6:24 PM
Doubt
punk7890 2/25/2018 6:28 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ wow nice work! I think debug window was a sub function of the STAGE SELECT routine
6:29 PM
What was needed in order to make it work?
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/25/2018 6:35 PM
I rewrote jal in loop that looks like a main loop, but I think US and JP has diferent address.
punk7890 2/25/2018 6:36 PM
ah so you took "main" jal loop into game and replaced it? Yeah, JP/EU will have different addresses but that's fine. I could port them later (edited)
6:37 PM
oh, it looked like main, I think I see what you mean
Athena 悠里マヤ 2/25/2018 6:38 PM
At first, I tryed to exchange pause menu but It will be freeze after exit STAGE SELECT menu.
6:39 PM
I will add JP version code on the wiki.
punk7890 2/25/2018 6:40 PM
@LuigiBlood I probably couldn't explain it all if i wanted to. But, I might do a small tutorial sometime, which has been on my mind but I'm not fully sure how to go about it. I think an easy example to start with would be mischief makers and the Dr. Mario 64 debug menus I found. Those ones were simple.
6:41 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ yeah the pause screen didn;t work. The closest I got was main loop into main menu.
6:43 PM
those ones that aren't ever called are a pain since main initialization to them is gone. They probably won't ever function correctly because of that.
LarryLemmy 2/25/2018 7:18 PM
YES I loaded an unused object! (thing on the far right)
Reaper man 2/25/2018 9:36 PM
Because why not? Hi.
divingkxt 2/25/2018 9:42 PM
Hello.
punk7890 2/25/2018 9:43 PM
hi
Smoke 2/25/2018 9:44 PM
Reaper man 2/25/2018 9:46 PM
Was linked from the zophar discord
9:46 PM
I've contributed a little bit
9:47 PM
Mainly castlevania and breath of fire games
divingkxt 2/25/2018 9:52 PM
As I say on my user page, I focus on whatever no one else does.
9:52 PM
That includes games not on the Context To Expand page.
9:52 PM
And trust me, there's a lot of games on that page.
punk7890 2/25/2018 10:55 PM
10:55 PM
uhhhhh isn't that a digimon thing?
10:56 PM
the game is Kenran Butou Sai - The Mars Daybreak
10:56 PM
but as far as I know, Alfa System never did a digimon game?
10:57 PM
nor do they have the rights to it??
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/25/2018 10:57 PM
unless its like a leftover from a cancelled digimon game or something
ƒluƒƒу 2/25/2018 10:57 PM
*agumon
MusashiAA 2/25/2018 10:57 PM
thats agumon alright
punk7890 2/25/2018 10:57 PM
10:57 PM
yep filename is that
ƒluƒƒу 2/25/2018 10:57 PM
might just be a test model?
punk7890 2/25/2018 10:57 PM
it is a test model but still strange
ƒluƒƒу 2/25/2018 10:58 PM
perhaps someone on the dev team really liked agumon
10:58 PM
a dev of culture, i see
punk7890 2/25/2018 11:00 PM
I like how this debug menu has a neat folder layout with descriptions
ƒluƒƒу 2/25/2018 11:02 PM
i have a soft spot for debug menus that clearly have a bit of aesthetic fun put into them
11:02 PM
something like this
11:02 PM
and one of my personal favourites
11:03 PM
or fe9 having that goofy faux-windows interface https://tcrf.net/images/0/06/Fire_Emblem_PoR_Previewer_Weapon.png
punk7890 2/25/2018 11:07 PM
wait, that digimon isn't technically a character model / npc model, its a map lol
ƒluƒƒу 2/25/2018 11:08 PM
i knew it
11:08 PM
i knew it all along
11:08 PM
agumon is literally the world
11:08 PM
this just proves it
11:08 PM
....ok that was funnier in my head than it was out loud
11:08 PM
sorry (edited)
Deleted User 2/25/2018 11:08 PM
hi to you too http://data.d1.us.bamboo.wup.app.nintendo.net
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/25/2018 11:09 PM
agumonted reality
11:09 PM
Deleted User 2/25/2018 11:09 PM
11:10 PM
May i introduce you guys to my lord and savior SUDOKU(hax) by EA?
punk7890 2/25/2018 11:10 PM
11:10 PM
this game, lol
11:11 PM
this debug menu is great
divingkxt 2/25/2018 11:11 PM
ftp dev nintendo net
Deleted User 2/25/2018 11:16 PM
What @divingkxt
divingkxt 2/25/2018 11:25 PM
11:25 PM
Also, unrelated, but I did find this - https://ap.nintendo.com/internet/
11:26 PM
It has this very mid-00's vibe to the site design.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 2/25/2018 11:28 PM
i was expecting something way worse
divingkxt 2/25/2018 11:33 PM
https://ap.nintendo.com/detect/photos/devices/copiers_gameboy_advance.jsp
ƒluƒƒу 2/25/2018 11:35 PM
like i see what they're doing here
11:35 PM
but there's something that feels almost
11:35 PM
counterintuitive about their approach
11:35 PM
"KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THESE PRODUCTS"
11:35 PM
"THESE EVIL EVIL PRODUCT"
11:35 PM
"LOOK AT THEM"
11:35 PM
"REMEMBER THEM"
cuba200611 2/25/2018 11:40 PM
Oh, and "copiers" - that's quite some old terminology there...
ƒluƒƒу 2/25/2018 11:41 PM
don't copy that floppy
divingkxt 2/25/2018 11:42 PM
"Dumpers" is just slightly less older.
Incineroar 2/25/2018 11:49 PM
I love how incomplete their lists are knowing a bunch of other devices that exist
11:49 PM
glares at an acekard and a gateway 3ds
punk7890 2/25/2018 11:50 PM
And for test models, they stuck a bunch of random stuff on the model's faces
11:50 PM
glasses, fake noses, and some weird gas mask thing
ƒluƒƒу 2/25/2018 11:50 PM
heh
punk7890 2/25/2018 11:51 PM
11:51 PM
I have no idea what that is
divingkxt 2/25/2018 11:56 PM
That is one odd dress there.
leilei 2/26/2018 12:59 AM
looks made for color modulation
divingkxt 2/26/2018 1:02 AM
I guess, as it's nearly completely monochrome.
punk7890 2/26/2018 2:13 AM
2:13 AM
testy test
Moose 2/26/2018 7:34 AM
hi!
7:34 AM
so i thought i'd pop in here and point your attention to a thing i found a couple years ago: an unused song hidden in the data of snes harvest moon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGaRUuf8ESk
MooseSMW
Unused Harvest Moon Song
7:37 AM
so how i found it was shortly after randomly discovering the game uses a sorta(??) n-spc style format for its music data. from there i found an actual song table where i think it loads song data plus the necessary samples needed, which are denoted by some numbers after the address
7:39 AM
i was actually looking to re-rip a few songs for the soundtrack for snesmusic because there were a few odd things here and there. at least i think thats why i did it anyway. it was years ago.
7:39 AM
there was actually more unripped stuff in there but it was all sfx, except for this one song linked above
7:40 AM
now i don't know if it's unused, or if it was actually featured in another region's version of the game. all i know is it wasn't in the spc pack on snesmusic, and it's not on youtube.
7:41 AM
wow i put a lot of text here. hope i didn't violate any rules!
7:41 AM
fwiw, the ripped spc should still be in this pack linked here http://snesmusic.jukor.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1675
Dezent 2/26/2018 7:42 AM
stop right there criminal scum, you have violated the law
Moose 2/26/2018 7:42 AM
oh noooooo
Dezent 2/26/2018 7:43 AM
In any case, hopefully someone in here knows a bit more about that
Moose 2/26/2018 7:43 AM
yeah i hope so. it's been almost three years since i found it!
Dezent 2/26/2018 7:44 AM
Ah
🐮 2/26/2018 12:13 PM
Yo Moose
12:13 PM
That's pretty cool
12:13 PM
Almost as cool as Bullwinkle
Moose 2/26/2018 12:17 PM
lol
z20kdc 2/26/2018 1:29 PM
regarding the Incredibly Obvious Disguise Gear: maybe the glasses/fake nose thing was so people would know it's not the character whose model was used?
Deleted User 2/26/2018 1:46 PM
@Huks Mind if I PM ya man?
Huks 2/26/2018 1:47 PM
Go ahead (edited)
Incineroar 2/26/2018 4:23 PM
@Deleted User weren't you looking at the FFXV benchmarking tool a while back and datamining it?
Deleted User 2/26/2018 5:11 PM
I was going to but the download kept failing and I gave up
5:11 PM
I did however go through PS4 FFXV lol
Tom [MarioDS64] 2/26/2018 6:12 PM
Hello
6:12 PM
I almost have enough for the Super Mario Land 2 and Yoshi's Cookies dev cart I won.
2
1
Halfbit 2/26/2018 6:51 PM
Are you going to dump the ROMs?
Tom [MarioDS64] 2/26/2018 6:53 PM
yup
6:53 PM
@Halfbit 100% dumping them.
Halfbit 2/26/2018 6:58 PM
Yay! What equipment do you use?
Tom [MarioDS64] 2/26/2018 6:59 PM
I am not
6:59 PM
But I am going to have someone else do it
Halfbit 2/26/2018 6:59 PM
Ah.
🐮 2/26/2018 7:09 PM
leilei 2/26/2018 8:19 PM
nice wark
divingkxt 2/26/2018 8:53 PM
https://tcrf.net/Slime_Rancher_(Windows) <- Something that needs fixing
Slime Rancher (Windows)
divingkxt 2/26/2018 9:04 PM
https://twitter.com/plethebest/status/968211579257937922
@PLETHEBEST (@plethebest)
I would of thought by now the song differences by region would be documented as all included on install and only needs notepad to view info https://t.co/gr5cnmsfcQ
punk7890 2/26/2018 9:57 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ I managed to map 1p controller to 2p controller now.
9:57 PM
9:57 PM
menu works for usa version now
9:58 PM
the menu scrolling is really fast though
9:58 PM
good to know the debug menu at least works still
Revenant 2/26/2018 10:09 PM
https://twitter.com/notrevenant/status/968321985272008705
Hellshake Duck (@notrevenant)
https://t.co/svhVyqOsDm the title screen of this SNES prototype of Ms. Pac-Man is so cursed. they tried to make Ms. Pac-Man too sexy
Deleted User 2/26/2018 10:09 PM
I was about to paste that here curse you rev
punk7890 2/26/2018 10:11 PM
wow heh
divingkxt 2/26/2018 10:13 PM
Oh sweet uncanny valley.
10:15 PM
That is actually pretty freaking weird.
10:18 PM
It's not in the game's data, but still a strange decision to make.
General Instrument CP1610 1979 2/26/2018 10:18 PM
She looks like a Monster Factory character.
divingkxt 2/26/2018 10:20 PM
They compressed the graphics, making it hard to tell if the tiles are still intact in the final game.
10:21 PM
So stuff like Tile Layer Pro and YY-CHR are out of the question.
10:21 PM
Will have to make do with BizHawk or some other emulator that can view the GFX loaded in real time. (edited)
10:24 PM
0x10 appears to be the refresh timer. (edited)
10:27 PM
10:28 PM
Here's the original version.
10:33 PM
0x2C is the level to start on. 0x26D is the controller input. (edited)
alan 2/26/2018 10:37 PM
woa whats her number
General Instrument CP1610 1979 2/26/2018 10:37 PM
no
ƒluƒƒу 2/26/2018 10:46 PM
General Instrument CP1610 1979 2/26/2018 10:47 PM
NO
ƒluƒƒу 2/26/2018 10:55 PM
10:55 PM
ok i think i'm done here
divingkxt 2/26/2018 11:13 PM
0x394 is the maze selection option, 0x38E is the difficulty, 0x39A and 0x39E are mirrors of 0x2C.
11:15 PM
0x388 is the Pac Booster option, 0x382 is the play mode.
divingkxt 2/26/2018 11:25 PM
0x2A2 is the score, represented in glorious BCD.
11:26 PM
Any value A through F is a glitched value represented with a ?.
divingkxt 2/26/2018 11:43 PM
Weirdly, 0x0 through 0xF don't seem to be used at all.
leilei 2/26/2018 11:52 PM
all of those late ms pacman ports are weird
11:53 PM
same for frogger's weirdly timed 1998 comeback to..... 16-bit consoles
11:53 PM
so much rush for the retro arcade conversion market
11:58 PM
though those 1996 williams arcade multiplatform conversions by digital eclipse were very neat (edited)
11:59 PM
if not for the obvious use of the windows sans serif raster fonts which just looks wrong on a console system putting the presentation closer into Time Cop territory (edited)
12:05 AM
also so much 2600 game packs between 95-04
12:05 AM
from both "atari" and activision
12:06 AM
or maybe it was just activision :S
12:06 AM
i know atvi made a bunch of those bundles of both their 2600 and c64 libraries
Revenant 2/27/2018 12:11 AM
i had one of those early 2000s activision 2600 plug n play joysticks
12:12 AM
also the SNES port of frogger is hilarious not just because of the lousy shovelware quality but also the fact that it includes leftover voice samples from a ren and stimpy game
leilei 2/27/2018 12:13 AM
i shouldn't be surprised though. it's a konami franchise
12:14 AM
i wish they could sell lightning legend to arika or so
divingkxt 2/27/2018 1:04 AM
The 2000s were a good time for pre-NES 8-bit nostalgia.
Deleted User 2/27/2018 1:08 AM
Um, what? I played NES games as a kid in the mid 2000s.
divingkxt 2/27/2018 1:12 AM
Sure there were a bunch of nostalgic game collections in the 2000s,
1:12 AM
but in terms of pre-NES games, I think the 2000s were probably the kindest decade toward them.
1:13 AM
NES games have a much longer-lasting appeal to newer generations of gamers especially.
Deleted User 2/27/2018 1:16 AM
Yeah, true, hard to believe kids these days have Ps4 pros, when I was a kid, I was a brat for a Wii.
ゲームボーイ64 2/27/2018 1:18 AM
we had a ps2 and a wi
1:18 AM
i
1:18 AM
i sucked at the wii
1:18 AM
so i usually just played atari anthology
Deleted User 2/27/2018 1:21 AM
Cool, sad and nice.
leilei 2/27/2018 1:21 AM
older pc games when rereleased, don't get it well
1:21 AM
many expect those dos games on steam get full steam integration, cards and achievements
1:22 AM
and just scoff at 'ugh lazy dosbox port just download free abandownare' without knowing the rights hell it took to get on steam
1:22 AM
nes games never suffered from that
1:23 AM
though there's always those pi asses that jump in any thread about them evangelizing socs
1:24 AM
(disclaimer: i own a rpi3 and retropie sucks and retroarch is nowhere near nintendo's clover and i wouldn't wish it on anyone who wants a nes/snes classic) (edited)
Deleted User 2/27/2018 1:25 AM
Yeah, kind of true, but atleast the human race is not that bad, they made Emulators.
leilei 2/27/2018 1:25 AM
i don't know about that. cats can be animal emulators
ƒluƒƒу 2/27/2018 1:26 AM
makes sense
1:26 AM
surely if they can make a cat piano, they can make a cat emulator
ゲームボーイ64 2/27/2018 1:27 AM
keyboard cat
ƒluƒƒу 2/27/2018 1:27 AM
ゲームボーイ64 2/27/2018 1:28 AM
You monster
leilei 2/27/2018 1:28 AM
i only really wanted a rpi3 to play with the linux and gles2 etc
1:29 AM
oh yeah and watch twitch marathons on
1:30 AM
probably the best most use of a pi i've done
Deleted User 2/27/2018 1:34 AM
Anyways, bad news, the Patreon for the RPCS3 emulator's funding has lowered from $3,508 to $3,467 :((((((
leilei 2/27/2018 1:35 AM
oh no
Deleted User 2/27/2018 1:35 AM
Dangit, I wanna play dem PS3 games already.
1:37 AM
#DonateToRPCS3EmulatorSoWeCanEmulatePS3GamesAndDoMoreResearch (edited)
cuba200611 2/27/2018 4:38 AM
@bookofholsety#2235 Now that reminds me of Monty Python.
ƒluƒƒу 2/27/2018 4:42 AM
not surprised, i believe eric idle based a sketch off this fairly old concept
4:42 AM
never seen it myself, mind
Yuna 2/27/2018 10:47 AM
can someone show me some extremely questionable things hidden in ROMs like the anti windows stuff in Rugrats?
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GerbilSoft 2/27/2018 12:06 PM
https://tcrf.net/Mad_Professor_Mariarti
Mad Professor Mariarti
12:06 PM
`hello hacker fucker this is matt furniss heres the deal. if you hack this game i will find you where ever you are and break your legs and thats a promise`
Revenant 2/27/2018 12:08 PM
matt furniss is a genuinely great musician and i'm kind of sorry for putting that article up and causing him to become a meme
12:08 PM
but oh well
GerbilSoft 2/27/2018 12:08 PM
:v
/dev/urandom 2/27/2018 12:08 PM
https://tcrf.net/Ganso_Saiyuuki
Ganso Saiyuuki
Deleted User 2/27/2018 12:20 PM
@Yuna https://tcrf.net/Kowloon_Youma_Gakuenki
Kowloon Youma Gakuenki
Yuna 2/27/2018 12:25 PM
danke.
Deleted User 2/27/2018 12:29 PM
I might send more later, cant think of any others right now
Yuna 2/27/2018 12:39 PM
@Deleted User off topic but what is your picture from? so cute.
Deleted User 2/27/2018 12:39 PM
hello hacker fucker
Yuna 2/27/2018 12:40 PM
i want pussy !!!!
GerbilSoft 2/27/2018 12:41 PM
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12:47 PM
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12:49 PM
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12:55 PM
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skeletonhugger 2/27/2018 3:01 PM
https://tcrf.net/Secret_of_Mana_(SNES)#Scrapped_Alternate_Events
Secret of Mana (SNES)
3:01 PM
So I went and checked what happens in the Remake...
3:02 PM
Instead of poofing, Primm is like "Fine, I'll find Dyluck myself!" and then she walks downstairs and waits in front of the exit, where she is like "My dad sent him out ugh"
3:02 PM
and then later...
3:02 PM
3:03 PM
...she references a scene that never happened
Revenant 2/27/2018 3:56 PM
https://twitter.com/CarriedAwayGame/status/968340338250338304
Carried Away Games (@CarriedAwayGame)
So my wife hands me an old box of stuff to clean out, I find these... crazy. The second looks like it was at the time I was working on EB. But of course, I have no floppy drive anymore... I'll hold onto them until I have a chance to read them somehow.
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Incineroar 2/27/2018 4:36 PM
those floppies, I imagine those are lotcheck submissions
4:37 PM
oh, maybe not
4:37 PM
sources perhaps?
Revenant 2/27/2018 4:37 PM
probably localization-related files
Incineroar 2/27/2018 4:37 PM
for Earthbound, yeah, although
4:37 PM
that black floppy
4:38 PM
i'm curious to see what game that is
4:38 PM
Final Fight 3 perhaps?
4:40 PM
otherwise street fighter alpha 2, but that released in 96
leilei 2/27/2018 4:45 PM
for the feb 1995 date, smaller rom and 'fight' i'd speculate it being.... mighty morphin power rangers the fighting edition
4:46 PM
or it could be an early snes version of the cancelled fx fighter (edited)
4:47 PM
which should be smol enough for floppy size in theory (edited)
4:47 PM
the bulk on the pc version were textures and the prerendered sequences
4:49 PM
the fx fighter theory's probably more likely
4:49 PM
but i hope to god a usb floppy drive is not tried for it
4:49 PM
those are disk killers
4:51 PM
though with it crossed out and 'moon' on there maybe it's a sailor moon game
4:52 PM
scrolls down tweets
4:53 PM
ah shit, r.i.p. disks (edited)
Revenant 2/27/2018 4:53 PM
i have never once had a USB drive damage a floppy
leilei 2/27/2018 4:53 PM
i have
4:53 PM
infact i've had a SABRENT drive do the deed
4:54 PM
i gave it two floppies to image, they just nuked their fats and unreadable in anything
4:54 PM
fortunately i already had imaged those disks in a better, proper fdc'd drive
Yuna 2/27/2018 4:59 PM
@leilei YO EVIL ZNE
leilei 2/27/2018 5:00 PM
sometimes i wonder if 'oh no my floppies are dead its too late' posts are due to these usb drives
leilei 2/27/2018 5:15 PM
my tw's private, so someone else will have to be brave enough to warn them about potential killer usb drives
Revenant 2/27/2018 5:15 PM
frank c already contacted them about it privately
leilei 2/27/2018 5:15 PM
ah okay
5:16 PM
that quells my panic quite a bit (edited)
Yuna 2/27/2018 5:31 PM
Evil Zone* Darn typos
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:09 PM
so Chrono Trigger showed up on Steam today
6:09 PM
the ratings are tanking on it (edited)
Revo 2/27/2018 6:11 PM
I was going to ask why
6:11 PM
but i forgot the mobile port existed
6:11 PM
so thanks
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:11 PM
yep
6:11 PM
i mean at least it aint http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/382900/ss_b3a5dd32e3a8882ff71d0c50ff084a9724d696dc.1920x1080.jpg
Revo 2/27/2018 6:11 PM
why didn't they just wrap Chrono Trigger in MAME SNES emulator and put it on steam
6:11 PM
someone needs to take companies to court again over Emulators
6:11 PM
there are no balls these days
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:11 PM
because of the PS1 fmvs and the DS extra dungeons (edited)
6:12 PM
i presume at least
6:12 PM
id imagine for many its just extra fluff that dont really add to the game
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:13 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT yeah, FF6 is just awful imo
Revo 2/27/2018 6:13 PM
is it really that bad? surely someone will add a patch for Chrono Trigger PC to clean it up and make it more SNES like
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:13 PM
i'd love to look at the feasibility of that, but I don't want to shell out money for that right now lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:13 PM
wouldnt you say the situation is pretty bad when fans has to fix squares shit for them
Revo 2/27/2018 6:13 PM
that kind of patch is inevitable
🐮 2/27/2018 6:13 PM
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Revo 2/27/2018 6:13 PM
someone is going to fix this timeless classic, surely
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:13 PM
unless there's DRM on it?
Revo 2/27/2018 6:14 PM
that Mostly Negative review better tell Square Enix they cant lazily port things
Netscape Navigator 2/27/2018 6:14 PM
they will
6:14 PM
it's still really really funny
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:14 PM
http://steamcommunity.com/app/613830/discussions/0/1693788384146056532/
To our fans in Taiwan :: CHRONO TRIGGER General Discussions
6:14 PM
this is what theyre worrying about
Netscape Navigator 2/27/2018 6:14 PM
but they'l keep going because it's probably incredibly cheap
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:15 PM
http://steamcommunity.com/app/613830/discussions/0/1693788384147113491/
How to ACTUALLY play Chrono Trigger on your PC. :: CHRONO TRIGGER General Discussions
6:15 PM
6:15 PM
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:16 PM
i mean
6:16 PM
he's right
6:16 PM
in the wrong kind of way
6:16 PM
but he's right
Netscape Navigator 2/27/2018 6:16 PM
people will forget aobut this in a week and s-e will make a tidy sum off purchases
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:16 PM
if someone were to dump the files online somewhere, I'd probably look at it (And I'd actually like to see if it can run under Wine too tbh)
Deleted User 2/27/2018 6:17 PM
@Incineroar If that does happen, please do st least ping me.
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:17 PM
will do lol
Deleted User 2/27/2018 6:18 PM
Thanks.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:18 PM
on the topic of CT, its sad none of other squares games got those demo carts
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:19 PM
wait
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:19 PM
fucking gold mines
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:19 PM
Steam is down
6:19 PM
wtf
Deleted User 2/27/2018 6:19 PM
`There was an error communicating with the network. Please try again later.`
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:19 PM
i can't access the steam store
6:19 PM
503 service unavailable
6:19 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:19 PM
is it possible to buy a game, copy the files and refund it
🐮 2/27/2018 6:19 PM
Chrono Trigger hatred ripped a hole in the spacetime continuum, shattering Steam's servers
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:19 PM
probably
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:20 PM
>Steam is down for routine maintenance every Tuesday.
6:20 PM
oh
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:21 PM
ah
6:21 PM
that'd be why
6:21 PM
ofc on the day CT releases lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:22 PM
i looked at the achievement stats and like 1% had gotten all already
6:22 PM
theyre just getting all the endings
6:22 PM
legit hacks
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:23 PM
smh
6:23 PM
no drm at least
6:23 PM
so piracy is always an option
6:23 PM
runs
Deleted User 2/27/2018 6:26 PM
For shite releases like that, I honestly can't blame ya
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:31 PM
reminder you can buy CT from Wii VC for 8 dollars still
6:32 PM
though uhh... you cant add points in 1 month so you better hurry
Incineroar 2/27/2018 6:50 PM
or if you have a Japanese N3DS you can get it on the eShop
!registerkey PPLTOasT 2/27/2018 6:53 PM
oo nice
meeper 2/27/2018 7:21 PM
has robobot been datamined?
7:21 PM
doesn't seem to have an article up
old acc! inactive 2/27/2018 7:25 PM
there is unused content, just nobody's found any yet
7:25 PM
tho i had a datamine of robobot somewhere
Yuna 2/27/2018 7:42 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT what doesnt link me anything.
7:42 PM
that.*
7:42 PM
Wait
7:43 PM
Chrono Trigger is on PC now? wtf?
7:43 PM
since when
MusashiAA 2/27/2018 7:44 PM
A port of the mobile versiom
7:44 PM
without online only
7:44 PM
and the DS content
meeper 2/27/2018 7:47 PM
yes also the menu looks disgusting
7:47 PM
it's a port
7:47 PM
of a port
7:47 PM
of a game that was better than both ports
MusashiAA 2/27/2018 7:47 PM
At least its not the PS port
meeper 2/27/2018 7:47 PM
thank god
Incineroar 2/27/2018 7:48 PM
it uses the PS cutscenes
Yuna 2/27/2018 7:50 PM
LOLOL
7:54 PM
Fucking hellSQuare.
Incineroar 2/27/2018 7:54 PM
...i just had a completely rng-powered tic tac toe game beat me
7:54 PM
using the tried and true corner technique
7:54 PM
gg
8:00 PM
and in playing with it i found an edge case bug - having the "cpu" place a piece into a draw doesn't update content correctly
meeper 2/27/2018 8:20 PM
>ps cutscenes
8:20 PM
so a port of a port of a port
cuba200611 2/27/2018 8:28 PM
`1990.02.19`
8:29 PM
Found this date in MAIN.EXE of the IBM port of Romance of the Three Kingdoms II.
Incineroar 2/27/2018 8:30 PM
@meeper basically they took the phone version of it, mashed in the PS1 FMVs, and shoved it onto Steam
8:31 PM
it's disgusting
8:31 PM
there's no DRM on it at least
8:31 PM
well
8:31 PM
you can tamper with game files
8:31 PM
but idk if it has anything to prevent piracy of the game
8:31 PM
i haven't been able to find any copies of the game's files online
cuba200611 2/27/2018 8:31 PM
And this is in FMDRV.COM: `SOUND-DRIVER-AD-LIBOPLDRV.1..OPL-II Sound Driver Version 3.10..Copyright (C) 1991 KOEI CO.,LTD. JAPAN`
divingkxt 2/27/2018 9:01 PM
https://tcrf.net/Help_talk:Contents/Creating_%26_Editing_Articles
Creating & Editing Articles
9:01 PM
Almost certainly inevitable this problem came up.
9:02 PM
And why you have to be extra careful with wording when writing help pages.
punk7890 2/27/2018 9:10 PM
I found this odd cheat that stretches the character models / images in the game but it doesn't change the internal resolution of the game. What would I call that? Simply, widescreen?
divingkxt 2/27/2018 9:11 PM
Eh, not quite.
punk7890 2/27/2018 9:12 PM
Well I'm not sure then
9:12 PM
stretchy mode
9:13 PM
divingkxt 2/27/2018 9:13 PM
Putty Image Mode
punk7890 2/27/2018 9:13 PM
ha
9:16 PM
whoops wrong ones
9:16 PM
9:16 PM
9:16 PM
that's all it does heh
Deleted User 2/27/2018 9:59 PM
so the end result is a squish?
10:00 PM
You know I had to do it to em
Yuna 2/27/2018 10:00 PM
that is hilariously terrifying.
10:00 PM
HAHA FRANKO
Deleted User 2/27/2018 10:00 PM
lol
Laenthor 2/27/2018 10:08 PM
It was scary from the start, no need to make it worse!
cuba200611 2/27/2018 10:11 PM
Franko, what a game.
divingkxt 2/27/2018 10:14 PM
@punk7890 Ah, the top image is what's rendered, while the bottom is how it's stretched out on a 4:3 aspect retio.
punk7890 2/27/2018 10:17 PM
I guess its just a 4:3 aspect ratio mode
Revenant 2/27/2018 10:19 PM
sorry to say i lost the auction for that gaudy ms. pac-man proto
divingkxt 2/27/2018 10:21 PM
Normally, I'd cry, but I'm not sure if anyone has decompressed the SNES Ms. Pac-Man's ROM. (edited)
Δndrew P. 2/28/2018 12:00 AM
coughcough PaRappa the Rapper remastered is just a port of the PSP version
divingkxt 2/28/2018 12:04 AM
That isn't so shocking.
12:05 AM
Probably because that was the version with the more up-to-date code.
Planet of Trash 2/28/2018 7:32 AM
Did anyone notice if you go to www.youtube.com/wiitv that the SWF file is named "lbl_end_of_life_854x480-vflVs1cbp"
Incineroar 2/28/2018 10:00 AM
@Deleted User found it I think.
10:03 AM
ooh, this is it i'm pretty sure, the uploader is verified and it was added literally minutes ago
Incineroar 2/28/2018 10:13 AM
aaaaaand i need windows to download it rip
10:13 AM
i can't get my vpn working in linux anymore
FMecha 2/28/2018 10:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puJ9Z_0qYLM DiRT Showdown copy protection
knowndead
let's play dirt showdown part 2 - yarrr ar
Incineroar 2/28/2018 10:35 AM
i can see all the names being changed to pirate-y themed
10:35 AM
cbf to watch the rest right now though lol
Revenant 2/28/2018 11:52 AM
https://twitter.com/ocornut/status/968876724808306688
Omar (@ocornut)
I made the master rom for Soul Bubbles (NDS) ~10 years ago. Dug into my archives and uploaded 3 super early prototype videos to YouTube today https://t.co/mVjl6cSsCz (check video description for links) + attached some unreleased early art (by @benfiquet)
Deleted User 2/28/2018 12:00 PM
Neat
Incineroar 2/28/2018 12:39 PM
well, Chrono Trigger PC works on Linux through Wine
12:39 PM
good to know
12:41 PM
um. what are these buttons on my keyboard .-.
z20kdc 2/28/2018 12:43 PM
with any "luck" it's probably decided you have a joystick
Incineroar 2/28/2018 12:43 PM
it's reading the keyboard fine
12:43 PM
might be Wine though
z20kdc 2/28/2018 12:44 PM
given what I've heard about this port, I'd put it as a 25% chance it's Wine, 25% chance you have a device pretending to be a joystick,
12:44 PM
and 50% chance the game just always shows gamepad controls
12:45 PM
(certain "gaming" keyboards/mice pretend to be joysticks, BTW.)
12:45 PM
(So check your `ls /dev/input/js*`.)
Incineroar 2/28/2018 12:46 PM
doesn't exist, so, nothing
z20kdc 2/28/2018 12:47 PM
...that leaves the 25% chance Wine is fabricating evidence of a joystick from nowhere and 50% chance a port that's known to be bad is also bad in this way too...
12:47 PM
...of course, I'm making these numbers up, but still
Incineroar 2/28/2018 12:47 PM
i'm pretty sure it's just because it's a shit port
z20kdc 2/28/2018 12:49 PM
Maybe run Wine's `control.exe`
Incineroar 2/28/2018 12:50 PM
doesn't show any joypads at all
z20kdc 2/28/2018 12:50 PM
well, that's that then
Incineroar 2/28/2018 1:03 PM
i'm finding all sorts of other problems
1:03 PM
i don't want to go on with this ugh
Incineroar 2/28/2018 3:46 PM
well, played it a bit to see how it performs on Linux
3:46 PM
I'd say it runs in Wine perfectly
z20kdc 2/28/2018 3:55 PM
...This screenshot of the Kotaku stories-widget seems to explain things perfectly. (NOTE: 12:01 PM usually means midday. In other words, the writer presumably released a story about it getting a release on PC, found out how bad it was within the 2 hours and 40 minutes, and spent the rest documenting just how far the rabbit-hole went.)
Incineroar 2/28/2018 3:55 PM
yeah, it's really janky
3:56 PM
I'm much more used to the traditional layout
3:58 PM
hm
3:58 PM
c:\slave_jenkins\workspace\Rainbow_Steam\proj.win32\Release_Steam.win32\Chrono Trigger.pdb
3:59 PM
this executable isn't scrubbed either
3:59 PM
I think I found some symbols
4:01 PM
nice find IDA
4:03 PM
ok it seems that their own code is scrubbed, but some libraries aren't and still have symbols intact
Revo 2/28/2018 5:36 PM
that is one awful battle system UI
5:37 PM
expecting any hack fix to replace the battle UI with the SNES/DS one
Laenthor 2/28/2018 6:55 PM
Jesus christ can square enix make any remake right?
6:55 PM
Instead of just copy-pasting the already mediocre mobile ports...
punk7890 2/28/2018 8:13 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/969017561877643264
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found an unused title screen in Dr. Mario 64 as well as a hidden password screen. Sadly, there is no known way to input any of the passwords. Info: https://t.co/0XaVDT0ASm
8:13 PM
8:13 PM
Sadly, no idea how to input the passwords as I have no leads on such a screen :<
Cloudy 2/28/2018 8:23 PM
Oh my.
8:23 PM
Nice
divingkxt 2/28/2018 8:32 PM
https://twitter.com/WestlouiaGame/status/969011429679415296
Westlouia (@WestlouiaGame)
I just found my backup flash drive. When the game is finished, I think I'll release every version just for history's sake. It'll give the tcrf folks something to chew on, lol.
punk7890 2/28/2018 8:41 PM
What game?
divingkxt 2/28/2018 8:48 PM
A finished version of this game - https://gamejolt.com/games/westlouia-pilot-through-the-timber/52774
Westlouia Pilot: Through the Timber
There's probably not gonna be a sequel. Keybinds: (Non-Configurable) Esc Exit Game (Hold) F1/F2/F3 Screen Size F4 Toggle Fullscreen F5 Change Controls (On Title Screen) F6 Load...
Cloudy 2/28/2018 9:12 PM
Is there anything on a sly cooper 3 demo?
9:13 PM
I remember a while back playing a demo for it at Walmart.
divingkxt 2/28/2018 9:26 PM
Not to my knowledge. We don't have much on the Sly Cooper games in general. (edited)
Cloudy 2/28/2018 9:29 PM
Somebody has a video on the demo I was thinking of.
9:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDGdWwrgORY
CooperCurse
Sly 3 Backstory - Final Version and Demo Differences!
FMecha 3/1/2018 5:04 AM
So it turns out Electrical Communication will play in MM8 in MMLC2 if system region and language in Japanese https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaman/comments/7yv2x6/megaman_8_lc2_version_has_the_japanese_opening/
Megaman 8 LC2 version has the Japanese Opening • r/Megaman
18 points and 8 comments so far on reddit
MusashiAA 3/1/2018 7:00 AM
They can do this but not use the Saturn version
Netscape Navigator 3/1/2018 9:26 AM
uh yeah it’s just content from the same platform but from a Japanese disc instead
9:27 AM
packed into the same binary
🐮 3/1/2018 11:12 AM
https://twitter.com/RyanShrinefox/status/969213772492615681 wow momma
ShrineFox (@RyanShrinefox)
Check out this ingame look at some unused beta models we just found in Persona 5! https://t.co/vHK70ZHZVY
11:15 AM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/965438285991460865 @Deleted User Is this what you were talking about?
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
Y'all, we just found something pretty important in a high profile game, DON'T SLEEP ON IT. https://t.co/eRGFxCVUnJ
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/1/2018 11:16 AM
BETA
Nex 3/1/2018 11:18 AM
did this get auto removed lmao EDIT: ah, yea, the spam filter (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/1/2018 11:22 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328547743964463105/418803368681668608/unknown.png unused cutscene in racps4
Nex 3/1/2018 11:51 AM
thats some early shit right there
🐮 3/1/2018 12:04 PM
https://twitter.com/regularpanties/status/963229622048608262
Pan-hime *P5 OC hell* and Ryuji ♥ (@regularpanties)
Found a WIP movie for PSO2's EP4 opening in the PS4 version
12:04 PM
Shouldn't this be added to the PSO2 TCRF page?
Deleted User 3/1/2018 12:08 PM
No i still havent talked about that thing yet
12:08 PM
And that should be on a ps4 specific page
Tom [MarioDS64] 3/1/2018 5:17 PM
Hello
5:19 PM
What's up?
Jacob 3/1/2018 7:01 PM
Does anyone know of any secret gamecube discs aside from the retail demo discs and gamecube service disc?
Pasta937 3/1/2018 7:10 PM
There’s a aging disc
7:12 PM
And a Metroid Prime 3 prototype which is basically a GameCube with extra ram.
GerbilSoft 3/1/2018 7:29 PM
128MB main RAM specifically (edited)
7:30 PM
And that was customized for Prime 3
7:30 PM
iirc no other dev GameCube hw has that
7:30 PM
And it's not possible to use RVT-H / NDEV's extra memory due to different mappings
punk7890 3/1/2018 8:33 PM
hi
divingkxt 3/1/2018 8:56 PM
https://twitter.com/zpaul2fresh8/status/969266432801476609
Paul Eicher Jr. (@zpaul2fresh8)
@tabmok99 @masterpesina Not true at all. I've found many things not on TCRF...
8:56 PM
https://twitter.com/zpaul2fresh8/status/969268764930953218
Paul Eicher Jr. (@zpaul2fresh8)
@UNREALWINS @tabmok99 @masterpesina You've seen a few, like the blood pools on the ground. Moves like Kahn's knee also weren't on TCRF. I have more as well, you'll be pleasantly surprised when the 2nd beta releases.
🐮 3/1/2018 9:22 PM
Ehm, you could've just said yes haha https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/965438285991460865
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
Y'all, we just found something pretty important in a high profile game, DON'T SLEEP ON IT. https://t.co/eRGFxCVUnJ
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/1/2018 9:23 PM
Timesplitters 2 in Homefront: The Revolution?
🐮 3/1/2018 9:23 PM
Oh dang
9:23 PM
Wait, what?
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/1/2018 9:24 PM
Homefront: The Revolution has a demo for Timesplitters 2 in it. This is acessible normally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fCzAXuLibk
IGN
Homefront: The Revolution - TimeSplitters 2 Easter Egg
9:25 PM
But i've heard all of the game is still in the files, not just the 2 playable levels.
9:25 PM
In theory, i think it's possible to hack the game to access the rest of it.
9:29 PM
As for why it was in the game in the first place. Homefront: The Revolution initally started development at Crytek UK, to be published by THQ. THQ shut down, so Crytek picked the full rights to it. Then they sold said rights (As well as Crytek UK themselves.) to Deep Silver, who promptly renamed the team to "Dambuster Studios" before finally releasing the game in 2016.
9:30 PM
Evidently, no one at Dambuster bothered to remove the demo post Deep Silver purchase.
punk7890 3/1/2018 9:34 PM
hmm looks like Dark Cloud's debug menu in the JP version has the "interior" option working.
divingkxt 3/1/2018 10:32 PM
https://twitter.com/mattgodbolt/status/969414848756027397
Matt Godbolt (@mattgodbolt)
Cripes. TIL people dog through games to find things left there by their deranged creators... https://t.co/9MNRPv95qT
ƒluƒƒу 3/1/2018 10:35 PM
could've found a better game to cite alongside "deranged creators"
10:35 PM
unless this guy was with argonaut at the time and i didn't realise
10:36 PM
either way if you want deranged, helloooooo horny guy in gensou saiyuki
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/1/2018 10:36 PM
The manual for Sonic Riders mentions a cancelled PC version of 06 https://info.sonicretro.org/images/thumb/3/3e/SonicRiders_PC_UK_manual.pdf/page36-397px-SonicRiders_PC_UK_manual.pdf.jpg What if a disc for the PC version showed up someday?
MusashiAA 3/1/2018 10:37 PM
Id shit my pants
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/1/2018 10:38 PM
drx should try to find a Sonic 06 PC Disc
cuba200611 3/1/2018 10:38 PM
So I'm watching someone play weird bootlegs.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/1/2018 10:38 PM
that would be the fucking holy grail of Sonic prototypes, aside from a Sonic 1 beta
divingkxt 3/1/2018 10:39 PM
The PC version never started, IIRC.
MusashiAA 3/1/2018 10:39 PM
I doubt it was ever done
divingkxt 3/1/2018 10:39 PM
Because the game underperformed.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/1/2018 10:39 PM
hmm
MusashiAA 3/1/2018 10:39 PM
Closest thing would be like, beta builds with development leftovers for a PC version
Laenthor 3/1/2018 11:10 PM
Someone is making a unity version of 06. I think a demo was released like last year but I doubt the whole thing will be made.
punk7890 3/2/2018 1:47 AM
1:47 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/2/2018 2:43 AM
wait
2:43 AM
thats literally bhero
punk7890 3/2/2018 3:09 AM
yeah, same dev
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/2/2018 3:47 AM
neat
punk7890 3/2/2018 3:59 AM
4:00 AM
lots to do here
4:00 AM
also the debug display was borked really oddly, manage to fix it
4:06 AM
I wonder if this game is voice operated
Deleted User 3/2/2018 5:44 AM
@🐮 I still havent talked about that thing yet lol. I need to do more research on it first. It's in a first party Nintendo game.
punk7890 3/2/2018 7:22 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/969547879483285504
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a large debug menu in Doraemon 3: Nobita no Machi SOS! (N64). Oddly, this is basically like the debug menus in Bomberman Hero and Densha de GO! 64. You can do a ton of things here, listen to music, jump to any map, etc. Info + codes: https://t.co/Kug4FUVo4O
7:23 AM
7:23 AM
These debug menus are slightly odd. This is the third exact same type of menu by different developers.
7:24 AM
Bomberhero, Densha de GO! 64 and now this.
7:25 AM
There's also voice recognition stuff to dig out sometime.
7:27 AM
Curious that GameFAQs lists these game's developers as AI, but I don't see that anywhere in the title screens. (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/2/2018 7:32 AM
was AI some subsidiary of hudson or a ghost dev?
Netscape Navigator 3/2/2018 7:35 AM
ghost
7:38 AM
They have a long history of making Super Robot Wars games for Nintendo consoles
7:38 AM
until the last one for 3DS in 2015
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/2/2018 7:38 AM
and i guess "was" was the wrong choice of word
7:38 AM
oops
7:41 AM
bless gdri
7:43 AM
does tcrf have some stance on assumed devs if it isnt 100% confirmed somewhere
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/2/2018 7:47 AM
I did it. I found debug menu "The Sensha PS1".
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/2/2018 7:49 AM
7:49 AM
oh sweet they do list this shit on their own site
punk7890 3/2/2018 7:50 AM
is that all the n64 games they did?
7:50 AM
might have to look at them all sometime
7:50 AM
I think mario party games are covered on tcrf already
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/2/2018 7:50 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/2/2018 7:50 AM
Mario Party 3 Minigame part Doraemon 3 Mario Party 2 Minigame part Super Robot Taisen 64 Densha de GO 64 Bomberman Hero 64 de hakken!! Tamagocchi Minna de Tamagocchi World (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/2/2018 7:50 AM
they worked on some minigames only, so if the debug menu doesnt match, it was probably hudson mainly
7:51 AM
so yeah robot taisen and tamagotchi world would be your best bets
7:51 AM
...or only
punk7890 3/2/2018 7:52 AM
i looked at super robot taisen and it has some small uncalled debug menu fragments
7:52 AM
would be too time consuming to figure out
7:52 AM
same thing with 64 de hakken
7:53 AM
didn't see any root debug menu
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/2/2018 7:54 AM
did those predate or come after bhero/densha de go?
7:54 AM
its possible they cleaned the games better later
punk7890 3/2/2018 7:54 AM
yeah I believe they did
7:54 AM
64 de was earliest
7:54 AM
1997 iirc
7:55 AM
I might try it sometime just because, but I generally steer away from those
Netscape Navigator 3/2/2018 8:24 AM
the GBA Super Robot Wars games all have articles with their debug menus left in too
pepper 3/2/2018 10:47 AM
ohhh
10:47 AM
nice find on the dev menu
BrokenBenny 3/2/2018 10:53 AM
You guys are welcome to view the PAYDAY 2 stream here: https://www.twitch.tv/starbreeze
10:53 AM
If you're interested.
Laenthor 3/2/2018 1:34 PM
"Andy888899999999855555555" is such a spam-looking username. It makes me uncomfortable...
pepper 3/2/2018 2:05 PM
their cat stepped on the number pad
Laenthor 3/2/2018 2:12 PM
And all this user's contributions is just to add the release days of games (like 1995-10-11 instead of 1995-10). It just seems very specific.
southmags4 3/2/2018 2:58 PM
cogito ergo sum
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/2/2018 3:28 PM
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Ratchet_%26_Clank:_Going_Commando ugh editing is a pain in the ass on mobile
Proto:Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando
3:31 PM
Can someone please add the (Prototype) thing to Going Commando? I forgot how to do it, and editing on mobile sucks
3:35 PM
inb4 NoPantsZoneMan registers and vandalizes the page (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/2/2018 3:44 PM
he would replace all the content with "this is my fucken beta i was gonna sell for an elgato you have no business documenting it on tcrf"
Sneaker 3/2/2018 5:14 PM
anyone ever compiled all the controller pack utilities in N64 games
5:14 PM
Some games had a freaking fsck implementation or something
5:14 PM
impressive stuff
5:15 PM
I had to keep a few crappy games around to do integrity checks on my controller pak from time to time
GerbilSoft 3/2/2018 5:40 PM
afaik Nintendo's fsck implementation for all systems is:
5:41 PM
`void fsck() { if (err) { oops_your_card_is_fscked(); prompt_format(); } }` (edited)
Revenant 3/2/2018 5:46 PM
they ripped that off of windows (edited)
punk7890 3/2/2018 10:19 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/969774114125709312
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a hidden cheat in Bassmasters 2000 (N64) that opens up a cheat menu with a music / sfx test among others. Button inputs at TCRF: https://t.co/CDVoF0YSBA
10:19 PM
this took like 30 seconds to find. It's a fun time when stuff is that easy (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/2/2018 10:26 PM
neat!
punk7890 3/2/2018 10:27 PM
yeah, hidden cheats are cool discoveries
DogsRNice 3/2/2018 11:03 PM
This is probably a coincidence but the number of the license plants in the coin filter could have something to do with this https://www.wilsonart.com/satin-brushed-gold-aluminum-6258
Satin Brushed Gold Aluminum
Aluminum in short-line brush, satin sheen, gold in color. Tonal/Color Variation: Consistent
punk7890 3/3/2018 6:57 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/969904387299557376
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few debug screens in Namco Museum 64. Dig Dug, Pole Position and Ms. Pac-Man. You can change a few parameters in them and listen to the SFX as well in them. I wonder if these can be enabled on the standalone versions of these games? Codes + info: https://t.co/ybdYY7ZqZW
6:57 AM
6:58 AM
I am curious if those are also in the original games.
6:59 AM
maybe a nes / arcade hacker can take a look if they haven't been discovered already
Netscape Navigator 3/3/2018 7:11 AM
yeah it's the service menu
7:11 AM
you would flip the service dip switch and the arcade machine restarts to that screen, let you see the parameters the rest of the dips are changing
punk7890 3/3/2018 7:12 AM
ah ok, a leftover I assume from the arcade versions (edited)
7:12 AM
I don't know anything about arcades as it may be obvious, heh
LarryLemmy 3/3/2018 8:12 AM
It's such an awesome feeling when a game I played in my youth turns out to be a goldmine of unused and hidden content
Luminar 3/3/2018 8:25 AM
which game
LarryLemmy 3/3/2018 8:27 AM
The one I mentioned before
Foas 3/3/2018 8:28 AM
my friend found this on his 4.05 ps4, was this ever used anywhere?
Deleted User 3/3/2018 8:29 AM
screen share
8:29 AM
odd
8:29 AM
if it is used, it's not something often talked about
8:33 AM
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/share/gameplay.html
8:34 AM
`You can use Share Play for up to 1 hour at a time. Share play automatically ends an hour after the visitor joins.`
8:34 AM
lol Sony
punk7890 3/3/2018 8:34 AM
heh
8:34 AM
yeah it sounds like share play
8:34 AM
though I've never used it
8:38 AM
you'd think share play would be unlimited for PS+ members since I think you have to have it to use that feature
Deleted User 3/3/2018 8:39 AM
you sure do
8:39 AM
holy moly
punk7890 3/3/2018 8:40 AM
yeah
8:40 AM
I really disliked their whole new take on PS+ when the PS4 came out. PS3 online was free then all the sudden in order to play 90% of games online, you need PS+.
Deleted User 3/3/2018 10:45 AM
we can thank MS for that
Deleted User 3/3/2018 11:05 AM
people are gonna pay $20 to play stardew valley multiplayer
Deleted User 3/3/2018 11:13 AM
lol
divingkxt 3/3/2018 11:14 AM
http://www.gamesdatabase.org/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_N64//Manual/formated/Namco_Museum_64_-_1999_-_Namco_Limited.pdf
Deleted User 3/3/2018 1:32 PM
ok
1:32 PM
nice
z20kdc 3/3/2018 1:55 PM
Maybe it did come from a kiosk?
1:56 PM
They could have sold excess Wired Wiimotes to kiosks, in theory - after all, the most important part of a kiosk's construction is 'stop the user running off with the product'
1:56 PM
And non-wired Wiimotes aren't very suited to that.
1:57 PM
The weird part is that this is sold as a Wii U Wiimote.
Deleted User 3/3/2018 3:14 PM
hey fellas im new
3:14 PM
but
3:14 PM
does anyone know
3:15 PM
how to make this work so i can convert cmp to cmp.bin
3:15 PM
divingkxt 3/3/2018 3:17 PM
ntcompress.exe -x -o
3:17 PM
on the command prompt
Deleted User 3/3/2018 3:18 PM
isnt there a easier way
3:18 PM
like using a .bat format
3:18 PM
and then draging thats what i did a long time ago but ... cant remember
divingkxt 3/3/2018 3:19 PM
for %%f in (*.LH) do ntcompress.exe -x -o %%~nf %%f
3:19 PM
and put that in a bat
Deleted User 3/3/2018 3:20 PM
ok ill try
3:21 PM
hmm
3:24 PM
well i put ntcompress.exe -x -o %%~nf %%f that in a bat then i draged it then it just say bg.brres.none.cmp
3:31 PM
3:31 PM
divingkxt 3/3/2018 3:40 PM
There are other options for ntcompress,
3:40 PM
but I'm no Wii hacker by any means.
3:41 PM
ntcompress.exe -x then.
Luminar 3/3/2018 6:23 PM
https://jadtech.miraheze.org/wiki/Debug_Mode
Debug Mode
6:23 PM
huge thing
6:23 PM
need to write its history too
6:24 PM
I found something then got help then found something again then got help again and now we have this
Nex 3/3/2018 7:02 PM
welp
Andreelikes 3/3/2018 7:04 PM
Is this from a corruption or a glitch?
Nex 3/3/2018 7:05 PM
no, they just deleted a lot of stuff outside the demo map EDIT: ok the distance stuff may have gotten a bit glitched tho, probably an effect of all the stuff being deleted (edited)
7:05 PM
if I go even further sooner or later I hit an infinite loading screen
punk7890 3/3/2018 7:36 PM
are those out of bound maps still unused? Were they never used in DLC or anything? I remember a year or so ago people found an unused city and various roads, etc.
Nex 3/3/2018 7:46 PM
its all used, only difference is that this is the demo
7:46 PM
oh, what youre talking about there is a area only meant to be seen from the distance and people made it out to be cut content
punk7890 3/3/2018 7:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2mhClqoA-o this stuff?
MELOO
Final Fantay XV: Explore All Cut Areas (Niflheim, Insomnia, Altissia, Lucis Glitches)
Nex 3/3/2018 7:50 PM
yea
7:50 PM
and any further exploring outside the desert is just most areas with no objects being loaded in
7:51 PM
there are cut areas but this isn't one of them
Nadir 3/3/2018 7:51 PM
S-E learned quickly from Sega's dumb shit mistake, it seems
punk7890 3/3/2018 7:51 PM
ah ok
divingkxt 3/3/2018 8:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai0RdNxesTI
The Reality Bin
Socks the Cat
8:10 PM
Pretty obvious why this didn't get released.
8:10 PM
What with the political overtones.
cuba200611 3/3/2018 8:21 PM
Kaneko - I know them for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzEPpC-iyNQ
LordBBH
B. Rap Boys Special 1CC
punk7890 3/3/2018 9:05 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/970117903268814848
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a sound test menu in Bakushou Jinsei 64: Mezase! Resort Ou. https://t.co/ptzUwM3BAb Interestingly, this is an uncalled function. Perhaps this was meant to be a cheat / unlockable option at some point. You can play all SFX / music here. Most of the music is also named.
9:05 PM
9:06 PM
Odd that this isn't a cheat
9:06 PM
Considering most Taito games do have cheats for stuff like this
divingkxt 3/3/2018 9:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtxHj1GV8IU
Matt Dante
Kula World - unused level
Nex 3/3/2018 9:53 PM
I remember that one, anyone ever datamined the old demo?
9:53 PM
the one included with the medievil rolling demo, wich is also very intresting
divingkxt 3/3/2018 9:54 PM
Well...
9:54 PM
there's no specific tools for Kula World/Roll Away
Nex 3/3/2018 9:55 PM
dang
divingkxt 3/3/2018 10:02 PM
The music is in the XA files.
10:07 PM
"According to this interview with Johannes Söderqvist, when Sony used an analysing tool to graph how much the CPU and texture cache of the PlayStation was being used by a game, this game was found to be using the full capacity of the hardware."
10:07 PM
And considering the detail on everything, that's not surprising.
10:07 PM
Mind, the backgrounds are split up into a bunch of tiles.
10:08 PM
And everything is very colorful.
10:08 PM
Lens flare here too.
10:11 PM
The themes are all .PAK/.TGI combinations
10:11 PM
LEVEL.PAK, LEVEL.TGI, LEVELFI.PAK
10:11 PM
except for HIRO.
10:12 PM
Which also has HIRO.SFX, HIRO.GGI, and COPYCAT.PAK
Nex 3/3/2018 10:12 PM
wait, kula world uses the ps1s full capacity?
divingkxt 3/3/2018 10:12 PM
Yep.
Nex 3/3/2018 10:13 PM
thats kinda neat
divingkxt 3/3/2018 10:13 PM
It has a full skybox too, which is part of the reason why.
10:14 PM
It's a giant image split up to more efficiently take space within the VRAM.
10:16 PM
The ball model is also quite detailed.
Deleted User 3/3/2018 10:57 PM
Can anyone confirm if this is Ok or not? I'm currently just working on my User Page in TCRF, and I am just wondering, are we allowed to use SubPages to describe something? For example, I am currently thinking of writing a subpage on my Userpage to describe My Planned shorties on youtube videos but was never made it into the final version.
divingkxt 3/3/2018 10:59 PM
Er, depends on what you're describing.
11:00 PM
But, we don't do subpages for user pages usually.
Deleted User 3/3/2018 11:01 PM
I mean, is it alright if someone does it? All i just wanted to put is Cut contents on my Vids in Subpage, under my Userpage. Nowhere else. (edited)
divingkxt 3/3/2018 11:10 PM
OK.
11:11 PM
So this subpage is just for your own stuff, right?
11:12 PM
Not sure what My Planned shorties is.
11:12 PM
Should be OK as part of a Sandbox page or whatever.
11:14 PM
Cut-Planned Features on Youtube
11:14 PM
Oh.
11:15 PM
I can put this on my own wiki.
11:15 PM
http://miscdatadigs.shoutwiki.com/wiki/YouTube
YouTube
divingkxt 3/3/2018 11:33 PM
Oh.
11:33 PM
@Deleted User So, this is actually a list of things that YTers planned, but didn't actually do?
11:34 PM
Yeah, not really the sort of thing we want here.
Deleted User 3/3/2018 11:42 PM
Not other YTers, my YT. But even if I specifically Put my Cut Contents, not others at any cost, its still consider to not allowed? If you need more explanation I'll provide the link. Will Remove it if you request me to remove it. https://tcrf.net/User:ForgottenHaunter310.5 (edited)
User:ForgottenHaunter310.5
divingkxt 3/3/2018 11:44 PM
I'll remove the subpage, as it's not allowed for user subpages. Sorry. (edited)
Deleted User 3/3/2018 11:45 PM
Alright, guilty as charged. But could you guys rework on the Rules of creating User page section? Its the reason why I came here on this channel. (edited)
divingkxt 3/3/2018 11:46 PM
Sure thing.
11:46 PM
https://tcrf.net/Help:Contents/User_Pages
User Pages
11:46 PM
It does need work.
Deleted User 3/3/2018 11:48 PM
It sure does, Some people, such as me, is confused with, "TCRF is not GeoCities" I'll put some effort to this rule. Anyhow, since you'll remove the Subpage, is everything else alright on my Userpage? (edited)
divingkxt 3/3/2018 11:49 PM
Everything else is fine.
Deleted User 3/3/2018 11:51 PM
Phew, and I thought putting a "clever" Userpage as if I were to have some "Beta Leftovers" would get me in trouble.
divingkxt 3/3/2018 11:53 PM
Nah, it's mostly just a quirky description of how you are.
Deleted User 3/3/2018 11:56 PM
Since im putting a additional string to the User Page rule, what do you think?: <!--T:6--> What's not allowed to be put: *No Additional Info describing yourself that has nothing to do with TCRF, such as putting your "Unused Features on Youtube". (edited)
Laenthor 3/4/2018 12:04 AM
I think user pages should be created with a very basic layout with something like a name and description. Either that or there should be an example user page in the user pages help section.
divingkxt 3/4/2018 12:13 AM
Mine is linked as the example user page,
12:13 AM
but there could be a few more to use.
Laenthor 3/4/2018 12:20 AM
Would mine be fine?
12:24 AM
Off topic, but apparently Lego racers' music files (.tum, which are VOX ADPCM renamed files for this engine) open fine in audacity, but they're really loud. Apparently if you want to make custom tracks you need to make them 22050hz (half of 44100hz) for them to play fine once converted. I just found that a bit weird
12:29 AM
The voxel engine doesn't use polygons, that's interesting...
Laenthor 3/4/2018 12:43 AM
Can someone try to open this? Gimp says it's an invalid bmp file
Deleted User 3/4/2018 12:44 AM
File returns `TSTLEGO.BMP: data`
12:45 AM
So it might not be a totally valid one, @Laenthor ?
Laenthor 3/4/2018 12:45 AM
it's weird
12:46 AM
I extracted the files from the LEGO.JAM compressed folder and the structure looks normal. I just can't open these bmp files
12:48 AM
They seem to be textures with no model association, but it's hard to tell until I manage to open one
Dezent 3/4/2018 12:50 AM
Doesn't open in paint.net
Laenthor 3/4/2018 12:50 AM
I managed to locate the small lego racers modding community. Maybe I'll find a post with my exact issue? http://www.rockraidersunited.com/forum/134-racers/
Racers
LEGO Racers game mods, discussion and tutorials.
Deleted User 3/4/2018 12:56 AM
Im sure there are few other examples of User created pages, If you going to use mine, you might as well list me as: An odd example (edited)
Laenthor 3/4/2018 12:57 AM
*lists every user Well if everyone's featured nobody actually is XD
punk7890 3/4/2018 12:57 AM
Hmm... I'm a bit confused here. Apparently "Bakushou Jinsei 64: Mezase! Resort Ou" wasn't developed by Taito, only published. Would anyone know of the proper developer? I'm guessing its a ghost dev.
Laenthor 3/4/2018 12:58 AM
I don't even know what that is
punk7890 3/4/2018 12:58 AM
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/company/10632-taito-corporation?platform=84&year=0&region=0&devpub=1 the game isn't listed here
Deleted User 3/4/2018 12:59 AM
If the Devs are lazy, they might as well put a string to automatic be put everyone on User created page. Otherwise, 100/10 Best Idea Laenthor. Should have gotten a World Genius Nobel Prize.
Laenthor 3/4/2018 1:00 AM
Thanks you, thank you. I would like to thank my family for all the support, my friends for everything...
1:00 AM
http://www.rockraidersunited.com/topic/7493-lego-racers-demo-exclusive-files/ Actually it seems like these guys already know how to extract map models
LEGO Racers: Demo Exclusive Files
If you were to install the PC demo of LEGO Racers, you would notice that the intro is like the N64 version - a high voltage intro that isn't pre-rendered ...
1:01 AM
The hunt for the legendary "Hey guys I did it" post begins!
Deleted User 3/4/2018 1:02 AM
Well anyways, have anyone know if its possible to add the DC Chao Garden models to the 2012 Port? Because I can see MainMemory added the DC characters, but not the DC Gardens. (edited)
Laenthor 3/4/2018 1:02 AM
Err with lots of time and conversion it might be.
Deleted User 3/4/2018 1:03 AM
More like, with Huge Trial and Error, anything can be possible Laenthor.
Laenthor 3/4/2018 1:03 AM
Yep
1:03 AM
That's what I'm experiencing right now
1:03 AM
There aren't any level mods for SA2 yet, right?
Deleted User 3/4/2018 1:04 AM
Yet you know what stinks? I do not know how to unpack .dat files And I still haven't figured out what programs to use to put the Models, 3DSMAX is too complicated to set up ;-; --- Currently all I see is @Darkbenji or others being able to make some changes to the Garden, Otherwise, no. (edited)
Laenthor 3/4/2018 1:05 AM
Yeah that's what I thought...
Deleted User 3/4/2018 1:06 AM
Although heres what I do not understand Laenthor. If they can change the Objects in ChGar., why can't they change the hole playground design?
Laenthor 3/4/2018 1:07 AM
The only reason is because they're not of the same format
1:07 AM
What else could it be?
Deleted User 3/4/2018 1:08 AM
Hmm, yea. You mind PMing me? I do not want this hole Conversation be flooded with us just talking about something thats not related to TCRF
Laenthor 3/4/2018 1:15 AM
Hehe, so: ADB files define animations. GDB files define geometry. SDB files define model skeletons.
1:15 AM
That's a big lead
Laenthor 3/4/2018 1:41 AM
Bingo, found a map editor program that works like a charm. Now only thing left is to find a way to view models with their animations...
Laenthor 3/4/2018 1:55 AM
meh that forgotten brick was already documented what a waste of time...
Chorus Line 3/4/2018 3:34 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/4/2018 7:37 AM
7:38 AM
I found Choro Q 64 debug mode. but This is not native res. I can't take native res screenshot. (edited)
Deleted User 3/4/2018 7:52 AM
that's fine, 320x240 is acceptable if it's all you can get.
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/4/2018 7:54 AM
I see. Thank you!
punk7890 3/4/2018 7:55 AM
Nice work!
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/4/2018 7:57 AM
Most menus freeze the game after selection.
7:57 AM
thank you!
punk7890 3/4/2018 7:58 AM
ah bummer
7:58 AM
still neat though
8:02 AM
meanwhile, I found this but it doesn't appear to work
Deleted User 3/4/2018 8:04 AM
nice
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/4/2018 8:04 AM
neat
Deleted User 3/4/2018 12:02 PM
Hello
12:02 PM
Anyone good into opening dialogs in .exe files?
12:02 PM
Hello Kitty - Roller Rescue (demo version at least) has a window with ability to choose play in fullscreen or windowed mode.
12:03 PM
I know that it's possible to add Accelerator (keybind) to that window, but seems like that not working.
12:03 PM
Will be appreciated if someone answer me
DevEd 3/4/2018 12:47 PM
you might want to try resource hacker
12:47 PM
http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/
12:47 PM
@Deleted User
Deleted User 3/4/2018 12:53 PM
@DevEd thanks. I use similar programm called xresource or smth
DevEd 3/4/2018 12:54 PM
side note: cheesy gif alert at the bottom of the page
divingkxt 3/4/2018 1:09 PM
If you have to rely on a GIF to point to where the downloads are, you're a bad web designer.
Deleted User 3/4/2018 1:32 PM
Sup
divingkxt 3/4/2018 1:34 PM
Nothing too exciting.
Deleted User 3/4/2018 1:36 PM
Thanks for all your help before btw..
divingkxt 3/4/2018 1:38 PM
You're welcome.
RanAS 3/4/2018 1:40 PM
1:41 PM
i assume you guys already know about this, right?
Revenant 3/4/2018 1:43 PM
yes
divingkxt 3/4/2018 1:43 PM
Yep, we're aware of that.
🐮 3/4/2018 2:49 PM
oh dear
divingkxt 3/4/2018 2:54 PM
Alas, only a handful of people have server access.
2:54 PM
This wouldn't so bad if they weren't also very busy.
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 3:50 PM
i wish that captcha was just gone period (edited)
divingkxt 3/4/2018 3:51 PM
Then how would we be able to control spambots?
3:52 PM
Granted, Captcha isn't a good method, but what to replace it with is a whole other discussion.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/4/2018 4:01 PM
disable registrations and give a to all the people who havent yet bothered to register to the amazing tcrf site by now
4:01 PM
their fault tbh
divingkxt 3/4/2018 4:03 PM
Er... and go back to 2010, where all registrations had to be done by the admins?
4:04 PM
Not so smooth of an idea. What happens if the admins go MIA?
karmic 3/4/2018 4:04 PM
no more new users then
4:04 PM
i think that's what he wants lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/4/2018 4:05 PM
indeed
Laenthor 3/4/2018 4:11 PM
Is there really no page on dead space on tcrf? Might as well dig through the audio files and try to find these creepy whispers you hear in the bathrooms...
divingkxt 3/4/2018 4:11 PM
Yeah, there are loads of games we're still missing.
4:11 PM
Dead Space is one of them.
4:12 PM
That's why I did a huge list of games we didn't (and in many cases, still don't) have TCRF pages for.
Laenthor 3/4/2018 4:12 PM
The game's 10 years old at this point, that's why I was a bit surprised.
4:13 PM
I'll add it to my todo list once I've finished it.
divingkxt 3/4/2018 4:14 PM
You'd be surprised how many games are missing and which ones they are.
4:15 PM
Quick name any game right now.
Laenthor 3/4/2018 4:15 PM
yeah I took a few glances at that page. I also want to doccument shovel knight with that debug menu
divingkxt 3/4/2018 4:17 PM
Still surprising that we don't have Shovel Knight.
Laenthor 3/4/2018 4:18 PM
I haven't played it since the original wii u release, so I might not be the best person to document this game...
Nex 3/4/2018 4:22 PM
wheres that list?
Laenthor 3/4/2018 4:23 PM
https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Content_to_expand
The Cutting Room Floor:Content to expand
divingkxt 3/4/2018 4:27 PM
That wasn't the only one though.
4:27 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Sandbox&oldid=73814
Index.php?title=Sandbox&oldid=73814
4:28 PM
Many of these were added by AttackedByGlitch
4:28 PM
and it shows.
Laenthor 3/4/2018 4:28 PM
heh
4:29 PM
page full of random memes
divingkxt 3/4/2018 4:31 PM
Well...it wasn't the intent.
4:31 PM
But that's how it ultimately turned out
4:31 PM
and is part of the reason why it isn't there on the site anymore. (edited)
Nex 3/4/2018 4:32 PM
you guys could remove dementium 2
4:32 PM
I documented that
divingkxt 3/4/2018 4:32 PM
@Nex That list I linked dates back to 2012, so there's quite a few titles that have been added since.
Nex 3/4/2018 4:33 PM
oh I see
divingkxt 3/4/2018 4:33 PM
Still, there are loads of them that haven't.
4:34 PM
@Laenthor The fact it has memes is part of the reason why the Sandbox is locked because people wouldn't stop editing the page solely to add them. (edited)
Laenthor 3/4/2018 4:34 PM
well that sucks...
4:35 PM
but the todo liste page does the job pretty well
4:35 PM
and the content to expand
Laenthor 3/4/2018 5:03 PM
"Several times throughout Dead Space, strange whispering can be heard. Because of the low volume and the numerous voices talking, it is nearly impossible to understand what they are saying. Sometimes, a voice might mention the ship's systems, the Marker or even call out to Isaac."
5:04 PM
Even the wiki didn't look into the files separately
divingkxt 3/4/2018 6:02 PM
That's going to be a problem with the bigger games, inevitably.
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:03 PM
hmm
6:03 PM
question for you
divingkxt 3/4/2018 6:04 PM
Sure.
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:05 PM
do you know of any ps1 .tip viewers
divingkxt 3/4/2018 6:06 PM
Game?
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:06 PM
these kinds of headers
divingkxt 3/4/2018 6:07 PM
That does not look familiar to me.
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:07 PM
hmm
6:08 PM
namco seemed to use them and I was going to try and dig around for them
6:09 PM
any sort of thing that wasn't actually in-game
divingkxt 3/4/2018 6:09 PM
PixelDbg or TiledGGD is my first go-to.
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:10 PM
ok
~sD 3/4/2018 6:11 PM
binwalk
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:13 PM
ok
6:14 PM
might not be able to do that
6:14 PM
is there a windows version
~sD 3/4/2018 6:15 PM
no
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:15 PM
well then I can't do that
~sD 3/4/2018 6:15 PM
there is windows version of file which may be able to tell you more
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:15 PM
or, at least
6:15 PM
i don't feel like using linux right noe
6:18 PM
@divingkxt sory, neither of those recovered anything useful
divingkxt 3/4/2018 6:19 PM
binwalk is coded with Python,
6:19 PM
so all you need is a Python interpreter.
6:19 PM
Which isn't hard as it can be downloaded from Python's official site.
6:19 PM
http://domoticx.com/firmware-analyse-tool-binwalk-software/
Sebastiaan
Firmware - Analyse tool - Binwalk (software)
Binwalk is a tool for searching a given binary image for embedded files and executable code. Specifically, it is designed for identifying files and code embedded inside of firmware images.
6:19 PM
binwalk-2.1.0-windows-python-2.7.10.7z
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:29 PM
thanks
6:29 PM
i didn't know where to look, either
6:35 PM
nope, completely unrecognizable
6:37 PM
should i upload a file to disassemble?
divingkxt 3/4/2018 6:41 PM
Sure.
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 6:44 PM
alright
6:46 PM
here's seven of them
6:51 PM
IL2.7z
1.61 MB
punk7890 3/4/2018 6:57 PM
tcrf seems really slow atm
Deleted User 3/4/2018 7:18 PM
thought it might be a container for TIM images, but it's not
7:18 PM
at least, they don't follow the standard TIM header
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 7:19 PM
nope, TIM1 is always at the same point in the header
Deleted User 3/4/2018 7:19 PM
oh that aside
7:19 PM
TIM are always 10 00 00 00 XX
7:19 PM
where XX can be 09, 08, or 02
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 7:21 PM
bytes 18, 19, 1A, and 1B are 54 49 50 31 so
7:21 PM
I don't know, I'm not good at disassembling
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/4/2018 7:36 PM
"they always start out with a sequence of bytes as "00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF" at bytes 0-0A, if that matters at all"
7:36 PM
dyno deleted it for repeated letters
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 8:00 PM
dyno is annoying
Deleted User 3/4/2018 8:05 PM
Anyone here know of a good tool to use in place of VGMToolbox, on Linux?
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 8:06 PM
wine
8:06 PM
then vgmtoolbox
8:06 PM
but I don't know of any alternatives
punk7890 3/4/2018 8:09 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ I got sound test mode working
8:10 PM
I don't know why but there is copies of these debug menus lol. One version is uncalled but properly linked up, while the older versions are all broken
Deleted User 3/4/2018 8:17 PM
@ゲームボーイ64 ... fair. Thanks.
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 8:17 PM
but run wine
punk7890 3/4/2018 8:17 PM
Neat, you can listen to sfx as well and change the parameters it seems
Deleted User 3/4/2018 8:18 PM
But wine, ew
8:18 PM
I already do that enough for CLRMamePro...
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 8:18 PM
and then try vgmtoolbox, as wine will emulate windows for it
8:18 PM
i don't know otherwise
8:18 PM
virtual machine?
Laenthor 3/4/2018 8:18 PM
If you use linux and want a program only available on windows, the only solutions are wine or a VM
8:19 PM
It's not magic, if the program is made for windows you need a part of windows to run it
Deleted User 3/4/2018 8:33 PM
or there's an alternative to VGMToolbox, for example
8:33 PM
I was wrong on the program I wanted, anyway (edited)
8:34 PM
I meant VGMStream
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 8:37 PM
vgmstream is a plugin in winamp
8:37 PM
but again, wine is useful for that
Deleted User 3/4/2018 8:38 PM
There's other versions of VGMStream too, not just a Winamp plugin
8:38 PM
Like a foobar2000 one
8:39 PM
`aur/audacious-vgmstream r1004-1 (+0 0.00%) (Out-of-date 2017/09/07) A library for playing streamed audio from video games (for Audacious) aur/vgmstream-kode54-git r1020.r1169.gc3d3aaee-2 (+0 0.00%) (Installed) Library for playback of various streamed audio formats used in video games (kode54's fork) aur/vgmplay 0.40.8-1 (+2 0.16%) (Installed) The offical and always up-to-date player for all VGM files` on the Arch AUR for example (edited)
8:40 PM
(I just installed vgmplay and vgmstream-kode54-git before pasting those)
leilei 3/4/2018 8:41 PM
yeah i don't doubt linux has vgm playing stuff
8:41 PM
i think audacious even includes a plugin for that
Deleted User 3/4/2018 8:42 PM
Yep, seems it
leilei 3/4/2018 8:42 PM
i love/hate audacious
8:43 PM
i only really hate it for gui inconsistencies
Deleted User 3/4/2018 8:43 PM
According to the AUR, the one up there is outdated so
8:43 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
leilei 3/4/2018 8:43 PM
where it wants to be a small winamp clone, but has HUGE preference windows
8:43 PM
BUT!!! if you use their qt version, it's a huge foobar2000-like, but has small, tabbed preference windows the winamp clone should have had (edited)
8:44 PM
when you use audacious in a 640x480 (or less for overscan) environment it's very difficult to configurate anything
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 8:44 PM
it's difficult to use anything in 640x480 anymore
leilei 3/4/2018 8:45 PM
yeah well try a pi on composite out
ゲームボーイ64 3/4/2018 8:45 PM
no thanks
divingkxt 3/4/2018 8:45 PM
Most everything now requires 1280*720.
8:45 PM
And even that may not be enough now.
leilei 3/4/2018 8:46 PM
i don't like the terminal modes to be unreadable at a distance, so preferring a legible 640x480 is a must
8:46 PM
can't simply change the font size in those
8:46 PM
can only make the font thinner
8:46 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
8:47 PM
i can sitll use hdmi 1080p for outputting a twitch stream while the desktop stays on the composite
divingkxt 3/4/2018 8:51 PM
Pit-Fighter for the Arcade has at least 9 revisions?
leilei 3/4/2018 9:02 PM
i almost want to expand the raptor page a little
9:02 PM
there's changes between the released shareware versions
9:02 PM
and then there's changes in those later mountain king windows versions
9:02 PM
and then there's 2 leaked prototypes
9:03 PM
litude used to have a page researching all the apogee game version differences, but that site is long gone now
9:05 PM
the easter egg apogee theme was the placeholder of an actual one in the dec 93 proto
9:05 PM
because a mus midi tune for it hadn't yet been composed at cygnus (edited)
divingkxt 3/4/2018 9:15 PM
Oh dear, Project - Horned Owl actually uses compression on the EXE.
9:15 PM
There's a bit of code to decompress it before the game data itself.
9:16 PM
Why did they do this is beyond me, but it's possible it was done to save RAM space.
Tom [MarioDS64] 3/4/2018 9:19 PM
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divingkxt 3/4/2018 9:31 PM
Not a bad price for a dev cart.
9:31 PM
Granted all the over in Japan, so shipping is high, but other than that.
Tom [MarioDS64] 3/4/2018 9:38 PM
I know
9:38 PM
I just spent over $1,000 for some dev carts recently
ThrowingOutRoX 3/4/2018 9:48 PM
there's an unused unloaded food court in dead rising 2
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/4/2018 10:48 PM
@punk7890 nice!
punk7890 3/5/2018 5:33 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/970607886316392448
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a small debug menu in Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64). Sadly, the Debug dip flags do not appear to work anymore. https://t.co/wuxK0BsgO9
5:33 AM
Debug dip doesn't work anymore though
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/5/2018 5:33 AM
neat!
punk7890 3/5/2018 5:33 AM
5:35 AM
there was something else but I couldn't get it to work anymore. These games have a lot of broken debug fragments left in game code so its hard to figure out how they all worked once
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:09 AM
Gee you find debug menus everywhere
6:10 AM
I don't even know how you do that (I already said that I know)
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:11 AM
it's basically reverse tracing text that seems interesting
6:11 AM
found out its origin, enabled it
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:11 AM
oh really just going backwards
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:11 AM
yeah
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:12 AM
makes sense.
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:12 AM
you'll need at least basic knowledge in MIPS though most times
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:12 AM
I had dealt with Mario Artist Paint Studio which I found out that there's a debug string printing going on
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:12 AM
probably some type of console display
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:12 AM
Kind of, yeah
6:13 AM
But I later found out it meant which function was running.
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:13 AM
yeah I;ve seen that a lot
6:13 AM
transformers did that
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:13 AM
I had gotten an assert screen also
6:13 AM
During translation
6:13 AM
Too much text lines
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:14 AM
heh
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:14 AM
Paint Studio has the worst latin alphabet support
6:14 AM
...and it's made in the UK.
6:15 AM
The two others that are made in Japan have it fully working (edited)
6:15 AM
also the VWF really sucks in Paint Studio
6:15 AM
It does not scale right
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:15 AM
I think I've seen OneyNG play that
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:15 AM
yeah, he played my translation
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:15 AM
nice
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:16 AM
Afterwards I released a first version of Mario Artist Talent Studio translation
6:16 AM
And not too long ago I updated Paint Studio to a 100% translation
6:16 AM
including graphics (edited)
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:17 AM
nice work
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:17 AM
Photoshop skills were needed for redesigning logos in the main menu
6:17 AM
and then I released 100% translation of Polygon Studio
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:17 AM
translation wizard
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:18 AM
I'm mostly amazed how modular the game is
6:18 AM
Nintendo did the programming right
6:18 AM
It took time but it mostly went smooth sailing
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:19 AM
is there a way to play 64DD games on emu?
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:19 AM
Project64
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:19 AM
Oh, neat. I didn't know it had support for that
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:19 AM
Since 2.3
6:19 AM
I added support for that myself.
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:19 AM
sweet, nice work
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:19 AM
Took the MAME code, added saving and disk swapping support
6:20 AM
Overall it's kind of hacky because of how Project64 is made to play regular N64 games (edited)
6:20 AM
So 64DD games will not appear in the ROM Browser
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:20 AM
ah gotcha
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:20 AM
also 64DD games needs to be recognized by GFX plugin devs.
6:20 AM
because almost every single one of them have issues.
6:21 AM
Especially Mario Artist
6:21 AM
For exemple the editor in Polygon Studio only works in angrylion.
6:21 AM
You cannot edit anything properly with any other plugin
6:22 AM
Each of them does frame buffer tricks that HLE plugins just don't know what to do
6:22 AM
Then Sim City 64 SLOWS DOWN a lot
6:22 AM
This game pushes the N64
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:23 AM
ah bummer
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:23 AM
On Project64's side though, I also modified N-Rage
6:23 AM
to support N64 Mouse (that wasn't hard)
6:23 AM
and Game Boy Camera for the Transfer Pak
6:24 AM
Though for Mouse support, I should have done something more streamlined
6:25 AM
but whatever
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:26 AM
at least it all works
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:26 AM
yeah
6:26 AM
One day I gotta take the time and make it less hacky
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:26 AM
its cool to see love for N64 stuff still
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:26 AM
I'm the guy who still prefers SNES
6:27 AM
My original plan was just making 64DD emulation happen
6:27 AM
and then stop with N64
6:27 AM
That has yet to happen.
6:27 AM
Now I was given a free 64DD with a free Japanese N64 to mess with
6:28 AM
I used it to rewrite my dumper, with this time being able to test it myself
6:28 AM
because somehow back in 2014, I wrote the dumper without owning it and I got away with it (edited)
6:28 AM
And I was just pissed off and tried
6:29 AM
and it was easy, too
6:29 AM
I was surprised it took 15 years to have a working 64DD dumper
6:29 AM
and it was by a guy who learned how to use the N64 SDK a week prior
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:30 AM
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:30 AM
I still get messages saying how amazing I was able to do it without owning a 64DD to test
6:31 AM
but I'm like "it was literally one of the easiest things"
6:31 AM
Nintendo's 64DD API was not even hard to use
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:31 AM
generally that's what knowledgeable people say
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:31 AM
You just needed to have the details on how to force read the System Area of the disk
6:31 AM
which is just one byte change
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:32 AM
sometimes its that easy same thing with some debug menus
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:32 AM
I used IDA Pro even
6:32 AM
I get some symbols
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:32 AM
symbols?
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:33 AM
function names, static variable names (edited)
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:33 AM
ah
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:33 AM
It's required anyway
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:33 AM
didn't know IDA Pro could fetch that stuff
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:33 AM
Don't underestimate IDA Pro
6:33 AM
That thing saved me lots of time
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:34 AM
though I don't think I'd want to buy it though.
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:34 AM
There's also Zoinkity who helped me a lot in figuring out how to dump 64DD blue development disks
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:34 AM
It would be neat to see function names though.
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:34 AM
I didn't buy it
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:34 AM
6:34 AM
how does it work? load RAM dumps or something?>
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:34 AM
I just loaded library files.
6:35 AM
*.a files.
6:35 AM
or *.lib files, that'd work too
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:35 AM
hmm I haven't heard of those
6:35 AM
For PS2, you just load an elf file up and hopefully it has function names / ram mappings
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:36 AM
Essentially ELF files also
6:36 AM
Just for linking
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:36 AM
do the .a files come with IDA or something?
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:36 AM
no
6:36 AM
I just load them into IDA Pro, then it comes with a file list of *.o files
6:37 AM
So you even have an idea of how were the source files
6:37 AM
you load an *.o file
6:37 AM
and it still has function names and stuff
6:37 AM
And during my 64DD Disk Dumper rewrite, you know what I did?
6:38 AM
I peeked directly into those functions and static variables with the name.
6:38 AM
So I was able to patch the 64DD library functions at runtime
6:38 AM
Avoiding me the work of hacking the ROM everytime (edited)
6:39 AM
and also I was able to change the expected 64DD region in real time, and stuff
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:39 AM
Hmm sounds neat.
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:39 AM
just by using export in C
6:39 AM
and it worked
6:39 AM
Way to save time
6:41 AM
I also dealt with a GameCube game with full symbols.
6:41 AM
to rip the music
6:42 AM
Needed to hack out the crossfade (who the hell thought it was a good idea)
punk7890 3/5/2018 6:42 AM
I would transfer to IDA but I don't have trouble with my method of finding stuff. Would save some time depending on the function names though.
6:43 AM
Do you load the N64 ROM then load these .o files? I'm not fully understanding the process of how it understands function names.
LuigiBlood 3/5/2018 6:43 AM
I just load *.o files (edited)
FMecha 3/5/2018 7:35 AM
Found English course difficulty text in Side by Side Special 2000
7:38 AM
No "Deathmatch" (Time Attack in Side by Side 2) text though
7:39 AM
There's also Versus text in 0x70194 - there's no split screen, does the game have link cable support?
7:42 AM
Beginner: SBS2 April Expert: SBS2 March Professional: SBS2 July (October in SBS Special) AceDriver: SBS2 October (July in SBS Special) As for Normal, it might be for SBS1 Summer course
7:42 AM
English release of SBS1 have not been dumped so we can't check what labels would have been used for SBS1 courses yet
7:45 AM
Deathmatch text in English version of SBS2: (from US version with Honda cars removed)
ƒluƒƒу 3/5/2018 7:45 AM
might as well leave this here while i'm thinking about it
7:46 AM
going over my fe4 notes and was reminded that this is a thing in it
7:46 AM
7:47 AM
i posted about this on tumblr like two years ago but unsurprisingly nobody ever saw it
7:47 AM
alternate opening narration, i think
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 2:29 PM
Heyo
2:29 PM
Just joined
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/5/2018 2:38 PM
hello there
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Dezent 3/5/2018 2:57 PM
General Kenobi
2:57 PM
I mean uh, welcome
Laenthor 3/5/2018 5:38 PM
@divingkxt I never thought about it, but can I create the Dead Space page with the info even if there's nothing yet? I might add something later on it, but I just want to create the page for now.
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 7:50 PM
not even close to halfway done on filling in everything in this article, but I'm almost at the halfway point. yay me https://tcrf.net/Patapon_3
punk7890 3/5/2018 7:57 PM
Does anyone know if there is a unlockable stage select screen in castlevania 64?
rampy 3/5/2018 8:31 PM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 big salute to you
8:33 PM
that's a lot of info
divingkxt 3/5/2018 8:34 PM
@Laenthor Discouraged. Mainly because we've had a few pages in the past which were mostly ignored and only had like a to-do or a Bob.
8:35 PM
Space Quest VI comes to mind immediately, especially since I'm the one who added to it.
cuba200611 3/5/2018 8:35 PM
Sierra, what a company. They sure liked their deaths.
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 8:36 PM
@rampy yeah i helped crack the game like 8 months back
8:36 PM
i started uploading info but then i just stopped after one of my edits didnt get saved
8:37 PM
theres still a lot more, and i still need to make 3 prototype pages after that (edited)
divingkxt 3/5/2018 8:39 PM
And sudden dead ends.
rampy 3/5/2018 8:47 PM
I still have a page to document a bunch of test levels on but I haven't had the time
8:47 PM
I could also write up a prototype for it
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 9:31 PM
@divingkxt thanks for editting all my image names, not really used that that yet
divingkxt 3/5/2018 9:32 PM
Many new users aren't.
9:32 PM
If there are any image names to change, use {{renamefile}}
Laenthor 3/5/2018 9:33 PM
@divingkxt Could I make a draft for a page and just save it on my user page until I have some stuff to put on the actual page?
9:33 PM
(regarding my question earlier)
divingkxt 3/5/2018 9:33 PM
Sure.
Laenthor 3/5/2018 9:33 PM
nice
divingkxt 3/5/2018 9:34 PM
i.e. in a Sandbox page
Laenthor 3/5/2018 9:34 PM
yeah
9:34 PM
I wasn't sure if we could use our user pages for that purpose.
9:35 PM
But now that I think about it, at what page size would you start to go "okay calm down, remove stuff from your page."
9:35 PM
i.e. if someone kept adding lots of stuff to their page
divingkxt 3/5/2018 9:38 PM
When they deviating a lot.
9:38 PM
I've already done that for ForgottenHaunter.
9:38 PM
Making user subpages for drafts is not great, but I can see the purpose and mostly goes uncontested. (edited)
Laenthor 3/5/2018 9:39 PM
Got it
Laenthor 3/5/2018 9:53 PM
Oh, I was sure dead space ran on unreal 3... Guess I was wrong...
9:54 PM
Guess I'm a bit in a pickle if I want to even start to dig in
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/5/2018 9:56 PM
tcrf as a geocities site
9:56 PM
what would that be like
ƒluƒƒу 3/5/2018 9:58 PM
pain
9:58 PM
it'd be like pain
Laenthor 3/5/2018 10:07 PM
Who wants to try reading this audio properly?
creepy_ch10_dementia_whispers.str
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Δndrew P. 3/5/2018 10:17 PM
I got no luc
10:17 PM
k
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 10:21 PM
yeah this is encoded and i have context as to what game this is from
Laenthor 3/5/2018 10:21 PM
Dead Space
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 10:21 PM
if it helps though, at the top of the file it says `creepy_ch10_dementia_whispers.sbk levels\global_assets\global_assets\audio\streams\global_assets\ds_assets\audio_global\audio_streams\creepy_ch10_dementia_whispers.sbk`
Laenthor 3/5/2018 10:22 PM
That's similar to the real path.
10:22 PM
So how do you know it's encoded?
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 10:23 PM
guesstimate
Laenthor 3/5/2018 10:23 PM
?
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 10:23 PM
im just guessing based on my experiences
Laenthor 3/5/2018 10:23 PM
ok
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 10:23 PM
guess, estimate
10:23 PM
guesstimate
Laenthor 3/5/2018 10:23 PM
yeah I figured
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 10:23 PM
did i say encoded? meant to say encrypted
10:24 PM
whoops
Laenthor 3/5/2018 10:24 PM
Well that sucks... Maybe that's why there's no page on this game on the wiki yet XD
10:24 PM
I want to isolate these whisper clips because they're barely audible in-game
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 10:25 PM
yeah i'd like to help you but i dont own dead space
10:25 PM
plus im trying to help decrypt this other game
Laenthor 3/5/2018 10:25 PM
http://zenhax.com/viewtopic.php?t=761 oh XD
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/5/2018 10:25 PM
oh there you go
Laenthor 3/5/2018 10:25 PM
yeah
Laenthor 3/5/2018 11:09 PM
Didn't manage to get anything yet but I'm getting pretty close
Laenthor 3/5/2018 11:19 PM
Apparently I need Gibbed tools but all I found was this. There are no released so there are no executables and visual studio gives me a bunch of errors. https://github.com/gibbed/Gibbed.Visceral
gibbed/Gibbed.Visceral
Gibbed.Visceral - Tools & code for use with Visceral developed games (Dante's Inferno, Dead Space 2).
divingkxt 3/5/2018 11:49 PM
Which version?
11:50 PM
Because I suspect they used VS 2003.
Laenthor 3/5/2018 11:58 PM
2015
11:58 PM
If someone can compile these programs I'd be glad
divingkxt 3/5/2018 11:59 PM
Oh, Visual Studio 2010.
12:00 AM
Says right there inside Gibbed.Visceral.sln.
Laenthor 3/6/2018 12:03 AM
Yeah I can open the solution, but I'm getting a bunch of using errors, presumably because I don't have the right pluggins...
divingkxt 3/6/2018 12:04 AM
Well, that and the incorrect version of VS.
Laenthor 3/6/2018 12:04 AM
Didn't think it mattered
12:05 AM
There was a compiled dropbox link but it's been removed in the last couple of months (link posted in september 2017
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/6/2018 1:06 AM
i have so much stuff i could upload right now to patapon 1 and 2
1:06 AM
and im still not done with 3...
1:06 AM
firepro20 3/6/2018 10:28 AM
Hey guys.. Glad to be hear. I just found my original COMBAT game disc and managed to install and run the game on Windows 10, even modified to 21:9
10:29 AM
However I was wondering if it is possible to fix the annoying "Please insert disc" message that pops up
10:29 AM
Any ideas? I tried to find the dll calls the exe makes to check where I need to work on but to no avail
Laenthor 3/6/2018 2:16 PM
Err, I want to start a page on subnautica and add the debugging features, but at the same time there's a lot of stuff. Would it be worth it to make a page or not?
rampy 3/6/2018 3:17 PM
Tough question
3:18 PM
If you think you'd enjoy doing it, do it
3:18 PM
someone out there will surely take interest in your contributions
3:20 PM
not sure what "worth making a page" means
Laenthor 3/6/2018 3:24 PM
Well everything's basically already on the subnautica wiki, so I'd just be copying what I need to the page.
z20kdc 3/6/2018 3:33 PM
noting the source is probably important then
3:34 PM
...by which I of course mean note the source or the, um, psychic vampire kitten will poof you from existence
3:34 PM
...kidding about that
Laenthor 3/6/2018 3:34 PM
Yes, I guess I'll get started eventually. I want to be able to extract the sounds from dead space first.
3:38 PM
And is it me or is the site a bit slow today?
Smoke 3/6/2018 7:20 PM
Any one here know Italian?
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/6/2018 8:06 PM
@Smoke thanks for fixing that part of the page for me
8:06 PM
i know some people who speak italian
8:06 PM
if you need anyone
Smoke 3/6/2018 8:06 PM
i just need a thing translated to english
8:06 PM
also you're welcome
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/6/2018 8:06 PM
go ahead and post it
Smoke 3/6/2018 8:07 PM
Alcune scritte non trovate !!
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/6/2018 8:08 PM
it says `Something written not found !!` (edited)
Smoke 3/6/2018 8:11 PM
thanks
punk7890 3/6/2018 9:05 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/971204790968397824
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a small debug menu in Cruis'n World (N64). Sadly it doesn't appear to actually do anything anymore. https://t.co/PqmK8lUErg
MysticSageJosh 3/7/2018 4:38 AM
i hope when we can we can investigate eyes of heaven
4:39 AM
and every other jojo game
LarryLemmy 3/7/2018 7:27 AM
If hidden development text has // in front of it, is it worth including the // in the article?
punk7890 3/7/2018 8:43 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/971380473967489024
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several debug modes in Hybrid Heaven (N64). With several lines of code, this re-enables the level select at the main menu, enables a camera debug tool, enables debug info display, and a animation test. Codes + info https://t.co/cNXk23Oqpi
8:43 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/7/2018 8:43 AM
nice!
punk7890 3/7/2018 8:43 AM
thanks, was a bit time consuming but was worth it
8:44 AM
there's probably even more hidden somewhere
FMecha 3/7/2018 10:16 AM
New article: https://tcrf.net/Side_by_Side_Special
Side by Side Special
Revenant 3/7/2018 10:53 AM
https://twitter.com/MarioBrothBlog/status/971404938726297600
Supper Mario Broth (@MarioBrothBlog)
Illustration of Mario and Pauline from Video Games magazine.
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Patapon Fanatic #3 3/7/2018 12:44 PM
God
12:44 PM
I have to edit a bunch of new stuff onto the patapon 3 article
12:44 PM
I'm already backed up but I just found the hell gate buildings
12:44 PM
Deleted User 3/7/2018 8:30 PM
hii! i'm new here! :D i really wanted to thanks the community for all the awesome stuff you have made so far! x3
divingkxt 3/7/2018 8:39 PM
There's much, much more to come. Even when the worst comes around.
Deleted User 3/7/2018 8:42 PM
thaanks Super Xnot and divingkatae! x3
8:43 PM
i wonder why isn't there a NES's The Adventures of Rad Gravity; it is probably the nes game with most hidden stuff ever lmao
8:43 PM
there's some passwords that let's you access them
8:45 PM
like one that makes you appear without the transmissor (an odd item that can't be used and you always have with you in normal means) and a other one that makes you start with all 20 health capsules, though i highly doubt you can obtain all of them normally
8:45 PM
also some really goddamn odd hidden weapons and upgrades
8:45 PM
that you can obtain in the game BUT are so odd to get i doubt they were intended to at all
8:46 PM
like the level 2 explosives
8:47 PM
you must avoid a room limit that makes you continue to game by jumping towards a wall, and walk invisible all through the ceiling of the room to the right to spawn at a room with it in
8:47 PM
damn lol
divingkxt 3/7/2018 8:50 PM
Well, hidden, but not entirely unused.
8:51 PM
Lemme get a CHR dump or two in.
8:52 PM
Does the transmitter have a graphic not seen without odd PWs?
Deleted User 3/7/2018 8:53 PM
the transmissor thing seems really like an unused thing tho; it does nothing in game and the password that ables you to start without it doesn't change anything as far as i played lol also nope; just displays blank just as other weapons when you don't have them
8:54 PM
then yea, about getting health containers and powerups; i bet this is the game with most hidden content then lmao
8:56 PM
when i was a child and after finding all the highly odd hidden stuff in game i always wanted to take apart the code of the game to know everything it had in it lol
8:57 PM
i gotta do it someday, i'm sure it has tons of stuff i haven't seen yet on it (edited)
divingkxt 3/7/2018 9:02 PM
There's a bunch of redundant graphics, likely to keep the game's bank loading simpler.
9:04 PM
Here are some of the banks from the game's ROM (correct palette to be applied)
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/7/2018 9:06 PM
is that poor font over to the top right getting scrambled away?
🍦vaniemarshie 3/7/2018 9:07 PM
What game is this?
Deleted User 3/7/2018 9:08 PM
wow nicee! :D i can recognize some of them, though it intrigates me if that big font mess at the right is the one that appears on the ending; i don't recall how it looked like, brb
divingkxt 3/7/2018 9:08 PM
It's the first three banks of the CHR ROM, plus one of the banks for the title screen.
Deleted User 3/7/2018 9:08 PM
also this game is the NES's The Adventures of Rad Gravity, probably the nes game with most hidden content
9:08 PM
o
🍦vaniemarshie 3/7/2018 9:09 PM
ah
Deleted User 3/7/2018 9:09 PM
iirc the ending scene also had some big font letters too
divingkxt 3/7/2018 9:12 PM
More, and the redundancy is even more visible here.
karmic 3/7/2018 9:13 PM
is this how it's normally arranged? or with the 8x16 sprite mode
divingkxt 3/7/2018 9:13 PM
Different arrangement.
Deleted User 3/7/2018 9:13 PM
also yea, these font at the right of the first image fits the ending one style
divingkxt 3/7/2018 9:13 PM
16x16 sprite mode.
9:14 PM
Here's the item graphics + Rad's title screen graphic. (edited)
Deleted User 3/7/2018 9:14 PM
OMG these are the weapons!
9:15 PM
the transmissor is the first one in the third row
9:16 PM
and about the latter two ones, i don't recall them
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/7/2018 9:16 PM
looks like a crystal and a jetpack
Deleted User 3/7/2018 9:20 PM
starting from the first tile from the top left to right, there's the three guns levels, following the two sable levels, the computer to escape a mission, the unselectable/unusable transmissor, the two explosive levels (one looks like a cristal fragment and other like a full cristal), the teleport weapon, and the floating platform utility that is the last weapon on the list BUT i don't recall ever seen the three ones following (edited)
9:26 PM
third* i ommited the first two because they don't look like items
9:27 PM
i'm really hyping to think the last three ones are unused items, wouldn't surprise me in such an odd game lol (edited)
9:32 PM
also that sprite on the middle looks like a mecha dragon? i don't recall seeing that in game either
Paplo 3/7/2018 9:33 PM
Hello
Deleted User 3/7/2018 9:33 PM
helloo, Paplo! :D
Paplo 3/7/2018 9:33 PM
I was reading the wiki page for wario ware diy
9:34 PM
this wiki should be more popular, there is a lot of interesting stuff
1
9:35 PM
also, how can I contribute, I can help with the wario ware diy page, I think I have some mio files with minigames
9:35 PM
but I don't have experience editing this kind of stuff
divingkxt 3/7/2018 9:37 PM
Hello.
9:38 PM
https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/1009/
miotool
Save editor and MIO viewer for WarioWare D.I.Y/Made In Ore. [b]Features[/b] [list] [li]Extract
9:39 PM
Many emulators have a ram viewing/editing feature, sometimes combined into one.
Paplo 3/7/2018 9:44 PM
I know how to extract the mio but I don't know how to edit wiki pages
9:44 PM
seems too complicated
divingkxt 3/7/2018 9:44 PM
Oh.
9:45 PM
So, when making page sections, you use at least two equal signs both before and after the section title. (edited)
9:45 PM
==Like This==
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[[File:HeresTheFileName.png|SZpx]]
Paplo 3/7/2018 9:48 PM
oh ok
divingkxt 3/7/2018 9:48 PM
{{clear}} if the picture is a bit big.
Paplo 3/7/2018 9:48 PM
I have some of the games from the ninsoft store
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9:49 PM
but they are on spanish tho
LuigiUltra64 3/7/2018 9:59 PM
WWDIY games? I think I downloaded the entire archive before the server shutdown but I don't have access to these files right now.
10:00 PM
Also does anyone here have expertise analyzing a GBA ROM?
divingkxt 3/7/2018 10:12 PM
Eh, a little bit, not much.
10:12 PM
Which game?
Deleted User 3/7/2018 10:34 PM
why the server icon has a cactus? lol is there an story behind it? =o
divingkxt 3/7/2018 10:35 PM
The cactus is based on an unused cactus sprite from Super Mario 64.
10:35 PM
It's seen everywhere throughout the site in several of the templates.
Deleted User 3/7/2018 10:36 PM
o lmao NICE :D
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/7/2018 10:39 PM
5
Deleted User 3/7/2018 11:04 PM
saxman has a cactus
DevEd 3/7/2018 11:34 PM
ohai vilxdryad
11:34 PM
fancy seeing you here
Deleted User 3/7/2018 11:44 PM
i was about to say the same, DevEd! :D is really nice to find you here! x3
DevEd 3/7/2018 11:54 PM
i've been tcrf-ing for quite a while
Deleted User 3/7/2018 11:57 PM
me too! been a year at least lol though it was the first time i noticed there was a discord server too lmao
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/7/2018 11:58 PM
The discord server is fairly recent
11:58 PM
?serverinfo
Dyno BOT 3/7/2018 11:58 PM
The Cutting Room Disfloord
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Role List
@everyone, Mods, Admins, ️ Bots, IRC Bot, I just like pink, so sue me, dIRCord, Patreon, Cacti Club, Cacti Club VIP, Dyno, Muted, hello hacker fucker, dumb color
divingkxt 3/7/2018 11:59 PM
Only started in December 2017.
Deleted User 3/8/2018 12:03 AM
wow, that must be why! :D
12:03 AM
also, how do i join the Cacti Club? =o
DevEd 3/8/2018 12:06 AM
my earliest TCRF edit dates back to 2013
divingkxt 3/8/2018 12:06 AM
2010 here.
Deleted User 3/8/2018 12:07 AM
20XX here
DevEd 3/8/2018 12:07 AM
actually no
12:07 AM
it's 2012
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/8/2018 12:07 AM
@Deleted User donate to patreon
DevEd 3/8/2018 12:07 AM
however i reverted it because it turns out it was incorrect
12:08 AM
also it was to a talk page
Revenant 3/8/2018 12:08 AM
2010 here too
Deleted User 3/8/2018 12:08 AM
i own no money ;-; rip (though if you accept avocados that would be another story = p) (edited)
Deleted User 3/8/2018 1:17 AM
unused cactus
divingkxt 3/8/2018 1:34 AM
Ew... Azure Dreams uses Shift-JIS for its English text.
mk i 3/8/2018 3:07 AM
I love how TCRF is like the LMW but for things that aren't lost, merely undiscovered (edited)
3:08 AM
it's honestly such fun reading through this stuff, I don't know why it's so facinating but it is
punk7890 3/8/2018 3:54 AM
It is. I find myself reading random pages from time to time.
Hiccup 3/8/2018 5:32 AM
@Paplo https://archive.org/details/WarioWareDIYDownloadableMicrogameCollection If you could post your collection, I'd be interested in comparing the mios to see if Nintendo ever updated their online microgames.
WarioWare D.I.Y. downloadable microgame collection : VixyNyan : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
This is an unofficial collection of WarioWare D.I.Y. microgame (.mio) files from the online Ninsoft Store that was available in-game via Nintendo Wi-Fi...
LarryLemmy 3/8/2018 8:46 AM
Debug mode in the Jak and Daxter games is glorious
🐮 3/8/2018 11:29 AM
http://www.nintendemos.com/?id=game&sys=3ds&game=movieplayer So did we ever find a lead on this
11:30 AM
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11:30 AM
http://www.nintendemos.com/?id=game&sys=3ds&game=louvre Oh damn, I did not even know this one existed
11:30 AM
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11:30 AM
Looks like someone stole a work of art from the Louvre
Revenant 3/8/2018 11:32 AM
any idea who those belong to
11:32 AM
not really clear from the photos
karmic 3/8/2018 11:32 AM
RETROGAMER72
Revenant 3/8/2018 11:32 AM
Unregistered Hypercam 72
🐮 3/8/2018 11:34 AM
Retrogamer72 appears to be the person behind Nintendemos
11:34 AM
I'm guessing he's the one they belong to unless stated otherwise as I have seen several contributions to the site from other people such as NPD (NationalGameDepot) and some other people
11:35 AM
http://www.nintendemos.com/?id=game&sys=dsother&game=Tsuji
11:35 AM
11:35 AM
"Only given to students at a Japanese cooking school."
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/8/2018 11:37 AM
I wonder if it's good
Revenant 3/8/2018 12:14 PM
https://twitter.com/ClydeMandelin/status/971796162716975104
Mato (@ClydeMandelin)
Probably my favorite of all time! https://t.co/65oxAUaMYZ (from official Japanese Mario World guide)
🍦vaniemarshie 3/8/2018 12:15 PM
yossy
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/8/2018 12:16 PM
joshy
GerbilSoft 3/8/2018 12:29 PM
"CTR Guide Boot Card"?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/8/2018 12:30 PM
maybe it teaches you how to NTRboothax
Huks 3/8/2018 12:30 PM
Damn I can't believe they ported Crash Team Racing to the DS
🍦vaniemarshie 3/8/2018 12:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_rxM8AaQOk
Reaping Hammer
How to turn Nintendo DS into GBA Free
Deleted User 3/8/2018 12:40 PM
no free gba
Deleted User 3/8/2018 12:53 PM
rip speakers tho
Revenant 3/8/2018 2:33 PM
https://twitter.com/sparkletone/status/971824964109328385
sparkletone (@sparkletone)
I was reminded that someone made a gallery of falling animations for Dark Souls 1 enemies that you never get to see in the actual game because there’s nowhere for these enemies to fall. they’re so good. Look at this shroom boy go https://t.co/Lx7OvjJWdL
Goati_ 3/8/2018 7:18 PM
Hi! I am here to provide additional info for a tcrf page. Pachinko Kuunyan. I have tested all the passwords and basically found out almost everything possible
7:19 PM
Do I PM somebody?
7:19 PM
Laenthor 3/8/2018 7:34 PM
You can just edit the page if you've got information
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/8/2018 7:35 PM
pachinko kuunyan as in that mega drive animu game?
7:35 PM
i played it for like 1 hour as a joke and gameovered on the first board like 3 times straight
7:37 PM
but like its pachinko
7:37 PM
so i couldnt tell if the game is rigged on purpose or theres a valid strategy by looking at the nail placements
Goati_ 3/8/2018 7:38 PM
yes that one
7:38 PM
it's the only pachinko game on MD. it's pretty good
7:38 PM
yes you look at the nails to see which machine has good chance for the ball to go through the shots you need to do in order to activate the Fever on a certain machine
7:39 PM
you don't have to do too much in pachinko, skill wise, other than choosing a machine that will pay out.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/8/2018 7:39 PM
Goati_ 3/8/2018 7:42 PM
it has some awesome music, like 20 different machines, and 20+ little cutscenes so it's pretty interesting. As the only MD pachinko game though it's kinda hardcore and can get grindy, have to drain out 101 machines to beat the game
7:42 PM
rolling an account to look into editing the page, thx
Laenthor 3/8/2018 9:53 PM
Just want to make sure that what I'm doing isn't for nothing. Once the list is complete will it be suitable for its own page?
9:55 PM
@divingkxt ?
divingkxt 3/8/2018 10:00 PM
I don't see why not. At least a known method of showing a debug menu on console is present.
10:00 PM
Thing is though... https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Common_Things#General
The Cutting Room Floor:Common Things
Laenthor 3/8/2018 10:00 PM
Yeah I'm not sure how it works on xbox yet
10:01 PM
the wiki just says how to open the console
10:03 PM
I'll just continue on then
Smoke 3/8/2018 10:14 PM
Hello
Laenthor 3/8/2018 10:14 PM
http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_Content "That was easy..."
Cut Content
This page serves to chronicle any significant content that was cut from the final version of Subnautica. The Accumulator was a machine meant to store power for Seabases. It is unknown why it was cut.
divingkxt 3/8/2018 10:15 PM
This page states Lithium Ion Batteries are "cut content", but that is not true. They cannot be crafted, but can still be found in time capsules.
10:16 PM
Also, many, if not all, of the screenshots are JPEGs.
Laenthor 3/8/2018 10:16 PM
I'm not saying all is accurate, but it greatly helps
10:17 PM
I played this game a bunch and I know that some of these things are true.
10:17 PM
Terraforming was a thing like 2 years ago
10:17 PM
But they removed it due to performance and terrain generation issues
10:21 PM
@divingkxt What do we do for this thing again?
10:27 PM
Guys I just want to save my edit to my user page...
Smoke 3/8/2018 10:27 PM
refresh it
10:27 PM
the captcha
Laenthor 3/8/2018 10:28 PM
ah ok
10:28 PM
Should be clearer but whatever
Goati_ 3/8/2018 10:39 PM
https://tcrf.net/Pachinko_Kuunyan updated this
10:40 PM
leilei 3/8/2018 10:43 PM
its time to make people feel dehumanized by clicking on signs and cars (edited)
10:44 PM
to train the google car hivemind
MysticSageJosh 3/8/2018 11:35 PM
can someone do some research on guitar hero van halen and figure out where the fuck the intro to painkiller went?
11:38 PM
around 15 seconds of the song is MISSING
A Spirit Long Passed 3/8/2018 11:38 PM
MysticSageJosh 3/8/2018 11:40 PM
and those 15 seconds not only sound cool
11:40 PM
they're..
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y'know
11:40 PM
PART OF THE SONG
11:42 PM
I can't think of any reason why they would be cut out
11:42 PM
so i assume some programmer fucked up
Revenant 3/8/2018 11:49 PM
presumably so that people playing something other than drums wouldn't have to sit and do nothing for 15 seconds every time
11:51 PM
i can't think of any rhythm game i've ever played that didn't have at least one song edited for length (if not every song in the game)
MysticSageJosh 3/8/2018 11:58 PM
It's not like a ton of songs in rhythm games (in RB and GH is what i'm talking about) have large breaks in the song (sometimes LARGER THAN 15 SECONDS)
MysticSageJosh 3/9/2018 12:37 AM
anyways i'm just angry about it (edited)
12:37 AM
i like the song painkiller
punk7890 3/9/2018 1:37 AM
Not sure if anyone has played these games at all but I've left some cheats I discovered on their respective talk pages: https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/971998127304491009
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few hidden cheats in the N64 games, NHL Breakaway 98 and Scooby-Doo: Classic Creep Capers. I am not fully sure what they all do so I left the links below if anyone wants to check them out. https://t.co/NVRB97XsqZ https://t.co/8aBMBCwmfq
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/9/2018 1:41 AM
hmm
1:42 AM
patapon 3 european multiplayer demo wasnt encrypted like the final games, or other demos... (edited)
punk7890 3/9/2018 4:35 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/972043024950730752
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Puyo Puyo Fever 2 (PSP) https://t.co/EvJtr0txMH This is essentially the same one from the PS2 version which I found last year. This lets you set the game type, character to play as, and the level. It displays end of the round statistics as well.
4:35 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/9/2018 5:39 AM
neat
Deleted User 3/9/2018 1:06 PM
i found somthing strange on dsi menu (JUST BOOTLOADER) (edited)
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FrostedGeulleisia 3/9/2018 2:01 PM
I still have to edit USUM's article to remove Alola Starter's Hidden Abilities from the table and their unused abilities which are now used
2:01 PM
since they released them two days ago
GerbilSoft 3/9/2018 3:19 PM
@Deleted User http://dsibrew.org/wiki/Bootloader
Bootloader - DSiBrew
3:19 PM
2-2435-8325 means "invalid firmware" (signature check error?)
Hiccup 3/9/2018 4:28 PM
@🐮 the 3ds movie player is dumped.
Azure 3/9/2018 5:22 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9ydjtE2.png
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Deleted User 3/9/2018 5:26 PM
TCRF secret HQ
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/9/2018 5:27 PM
leaked pic of the cacti club
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/9/2018 5:27 PM
FrostedGeulleisia 3/9/2018 5:42 PM
it's our brothers
GerbilSoft 3/9/2018 5:42 PM
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/9/2018 5:51 PM
so many cacti...
5:51 PM
3
🐮 3/9/2018 6:27 PM
@Hiccup whoa momma
6:27 PM
Where can one find it?
SirenaBeach 3/9/2018 6:33 PM
so I'm guessing there are no ways yet or at least publicly to rip images from the Switch News app? There's this one concept art that I would insert in a Prerelease article but it's too big for all of it to appear on the screen so the screenshot feature would cut it off. (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/9/2018 6:36 PM
well the news app is probably reading the data from xml or whatever
6:36 PM
just a matter of getting the url
Old Man Ed 3/9/2018 7:12 PM
Hello there (edited)
7:12 PM
I'm ed
7:12 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/9/2018 7:15 PM
where did ed and eddy go
leilei 3/9/2018 8:05 PM
2
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/9/2018 8:08 PM
punk7890 3/9/2018 9:38 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/972300445086449664
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu + debug displays in Sonic Heroes (PS2) https://t.co/n16bhB1yKh Looks like the dev's main console of choice for this game was the GameCube. The later half of the debug menu doesn't work anymore.
9:38 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/9/2018 9:39 PM
9:39 PM
THE PS2 VERSION IS GOOD FOR ONCE
punk7890 3/9/2018 9:40 PM
Well, the debug displays don;t work on it. I think they might on the GameCube version though.
leilei 3/9/2018 9:40 PM
i like the vga font
Deleted User 3/9/2018 10:04 PM
Hitting the Jackpot.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/9/2018 10:05 PM
woah
Hiccup 3/10/2018 3:59 AM
@🐮 It was released by the scene group BigBlueBox, so you can find it under " Movie.Player.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST" or "ctr-h-aabp". It was also datted by No-Intro, so you could also find it under "Movie Player (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It) (Demo) (Kiosk)". You can find more metadata on the No-Intro database: http://datomatic.no-intro.org/?page=show_record&s=64&n=x011 and on sites that collect "nfo" files for scene releases. (edited)
4:01 AM
@SirenaBeach might be worth asking on the reswitched discord
🍦vaniemarshie 3/10/2018 7:45 AM
@Hiccup#3675 Did you just join?
7:45 AM
oh right rip tags
🐮 3/10/2018 7:55 AM
@Hiccup Many thanks!
LarryLemmy 3/10/2018 9:08 AM
Is anyone familiar with anything like this? I have an old Windows game with around 200MB on the disc. About 180MB consists of... Random videos that have nothing to do with the game and are hidden unless you open it with something like Game Extractor
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/10/2018 9:10 AM
Seems like padding or something
Dezent 3/10/2018 9:24 AM
How random are these videos?
LarryLemmy 3/10/2018 9:28 AM
There's videos of space and of famous people in history
Dezent 3/10/2018 9:29 AM
Hm, neat
Netscape Navigator 3/10/2018 9:35 AM
the most famous case of this is probably Tiger Woods 99 on PS1 (edited)
9:36 AM
they put one of the South Park pre-pilot short cartoons on it as a hidden dummy file to pad out space
A Spirit Long Passed 3/10/2018 11:22 AM
does anyone know how to rip music from a ps1 game
Dezent 3/10/2018 11:36 AM
PSound is usually the way to go
A Spirit Long Passed 3/10/2018 11:55 AM
@Dezent no luck :/ any other suggestions?
Dezent 3/10/2018 11:59 AM
Hmm, nah, sorry
11:59 AM
Maybe someone else can help, what comes to hacking games and extracting sounds, I'm a total klutz lol
11:59 AM
Might wanna post it to #help too, if possible, mention what game it is
Deleted User 3/10/2018 12:08 PM
HELLO
12:08 PM
it is me
12:08 PM
bunboon
Deleted User 3/10/2018 12:55 PM
oy im now back
A Spirit Long Passed 3/10/2018 1:36 PM
Ah okay thanks @Dezent
Deleted User 3/10/2018 3:43 PM
@A Spirit Long Passed try jpsxdec
A Spirit Long Passed 3/10/2018 4:14 PM
@Deleted User no luck
4:14 PM
only ripped all the voices (edited)
Revo 3/10/2018 4:18 PM
How do I browse the MIPS assembly of a 64DD ROM?
4:18 PM
aka: https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_64_(Nintendo_64DD)
Super Mario 64 (Nintendo 64DD)
divingkxt 3/10/2018 5:15 PM
CajeASM.
meeper 3/10/2018 5:50 PM
Was Wave Race 64 ever dumped?
5:51 PM
There’s rumors that Totaka’s Song is hidden in Wave Race 64 and has gone undiscovered, so a way to validate it is to check if the tune’s even in the files, right?
divingkxt 3/10/2018 5:52 PM
You serious, right?
5:52 PM
Course Wave Race 64 was dumped. Only problem is that Wave Race 64 has compressed data.
5:52 PM
Can't just yank out TiledGGD and read the textures.
meeper 3/10/2018 5:53 PM
Gotcha, and yeah my apologies for not being more clear - meant music and sfx and the like
divingkxt 3/10/2018 5:54 PM
Ah, as in ripping the soundtrack straight from the ROM.
5:55 PM
Not to my knowledge.
meeper 3/10/2018 5:55 PM
Cool, thanks
divingkxt 3/10/2018 5:58 PM
https://github.com/sauraen/seq64
sauraen/seq64
seq64 - Sequenced music editor for first-party N64 games
punk7890 3/10/2018 6:48 PM
There should be a usf rip of Wave Race 64 as well
SirenaBeach 3/10/2018 6:54 PM
okay, I'll look into that
Deleted User 3/10/2018 6:55 PM
https://mobasuite.com/downloads/USF.7z Try looking in that?
6:55 PM
I found that from a forum
6:57 PM
Suggested player: Foobar2000 + https://foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_input_usf + https://foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_gep (Since there were also NES ans SNES audio rip packs too)
foobar2000: Components Repository - USF Decoder
foobar2000
foobar2000: Components Repository - Game Emu Player
foobar2000
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/10/2018 7:37 PM
i want a game called "tcrf"
7:38 PM
and when you play it, you walk up a hill and win the game
7:38 PM
but when you look at the games resources theres stuff like multicolored cacti and 3d cacti models
7:38 PM
and cacti with guns
7:38 PM
etc
leilei 3/10/2018 7:47 PM
and the actual game would have hidden hello hacker fuckers hidden in them
7:48 PM
and kick matt in the balls and fire matt immediately
7:49 PM
and also an angry rant about nintendo in japanese with no proper encoding (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/10/2018 7:49 PM
and Ted Price with a mullet somewhere in it
mk i 3/10/2018 7:52 PM
and a bunch of files with formats so obscure that no-one can figure out how to decode them
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/10/2018 7:52 PM
cough cough ratchet and clank wad files
mk i 3/10/2018 7:53 PM
and they turn out to be templates for levels that need a bunch of non-existent assets in a specific directory in order to even be previewed
7:54 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 I was actually thinking of the game I've been trying to decode lately with little success
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/10/2018 7:54 PM
mk i 3/10/2018 7:54 PM
"Sierra's 3D Ultra Lionel Traintown [American Legend] Deluxe"
7:55 PM
I put it on G-drive for people to have a look at but I don't think anyone's actually done anything with it lol
7:56 PM
what would you do with a bunch of .BMX, .DAT, .TBA, .TBB, .TBF, .TBI, and .TIL files?
Deleted User 3/10/2018 7:57 PM
Have you checked for a ZLib magic in the hex?
mk i 3/10/2018 7:57 PM
the closet we got anywhere was when divingkatae discovered the .PAL pallete files
7:58 PM
and no because I'm an absolute novice noob when it comes to this XD
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/10/2018 7:58 PM
bmx files
mk i 3/10/2018 7:58 PM
I've been spoiled by Microsoft Train Simulator where all the files were basically just encoded in plaintext
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/10/2018 7:59 PM
if anybody manages to figure out ratchet and clank wad files i will love you forever
Deleted User 3/10/2018 7:59 PM
Why I even jokingly bring up the zlib magic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMMOErxtahk (edited)
LiveOverflow
STOP WASTING YOUR TIME AND LEARN MORE HACKING!
Revo 3/10/2018 7:59 PM
@divingkxt CajeASM is dead, can it even dump DD stuff?
mk i 3/10/2018 7:59 PM
I used to reprogram that thing when I was 9 to make the trains go at 6000mph and thought I was an eLiTe hAxOr (edited)
8:00 PM
then I discovered other types of files existed and I was like "whoa wtf"
Deleted User 3/10/2018 8:01 PM
The video I linked is very interesting imo
Revo 3/10/2018 8:01 PM
CajeASM doesnt seem to have a dissassembler. you mean armips? can it do DD?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/10/2018 8:01 PM
a few of us on a private RAC reverse-engineering server have barely scratched the surface in regards to these fucking cursed wad files :/
Revo 3/10/2018 8:02 PM
kinda clueless here..
8:02 PM
i wish the iQue stuff would be decrypted already
Deleted User 3/10/2018 8:02 PM
The iQue stuff that was posted on the No-Intro forums? ( http://forums.no-intro.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3034 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/oafv316mv4vs870/%5BN64%5D%20Encrypted%20iQue%20Player%20Games%20and%20Game-cache.7z?dl=0 ) (edited)
No-Intro • Login
The Official No-Intro Forums & Community
[N64] Encrypted iQue Player Games and Game-cache.7z
Shared with Dropbox
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/10/2018 8:03 PM
There's one person there who has looked into the wads quite a bit, but hasnt done it for a while
alex/dass 3/10/2018 8:05 PM
yehehjj....ahajsndioPPP!!!!!!
Revo 3/10/2018 8:06 PM
i wanted to check if mario 64 iQue was new or old compiler
8:06 PM
i recently found a pretty reliable way of detecting either compiler
Deleted User 3/10/2018 8:10 PM
@Revo From the Dropbox link I posted btw: https://hastebin.com/raw/inozomidev (edited)
8:10 PM
I ran `file` on all the files (edited)
Revo 3/10/2018 8:11 PM
thats definitely encrypted..
Deleted User 3/10/2018 8:12 PM
`Encrypted iQue Player Games/2106101` is of interest to me
8:12 PM
But that might just be because the MAGIC happens to match? Shrug
8:12 PM
But at the same time, I can't be too sure
8:15 PM
For the record, `file` reported tht file to have a MAGIC of `PGP\011Secret Sub-key -` (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/10/2018 9:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87iP8ZlcXaU
Madwig
Patapon - Cosmo Serpents DLC [Download + Guide + Gameplay]
9:53 PM
look what i helped make
Snakeshroom (old account) 3/10/2018 9:57 PM
YO GUYS I FOUND UNUSED GFX IN MOTHER 1+2
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/10/2018 9:59 PM
ƒluƒƒу 3/10/2018 10:02 PM
:O?
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/10/2018 10:14 PM
how do i change my name on tcrf
divingkxt 3/10/2018 10:16 PM
What do you want to change it to?
Snakeshroom (old account) 3/10/2018 10:20 PM
how do i upload a pic to tcrf
divingkxt 3/10/2018 10:20 PM
https://tcrf.net/Special:Upload
Special:Upload
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/10/2018 10:25 PM
@divingkxt revmir
10:25 PM
or shockturtle
10:25 PM
doesnt matter
divingkxt 3/10/2018 10:26 PM
Done.
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/10/2018 10:32 PM
❤
cuba200611 3/10/2018 10:48 PM
So I found this sound in the service mode of an arcade game called DownTown:
10:49 PM
It sounds like a PC-98 booting, and as far as I can figure out, it is not used in-game.
10:50 PM
Here's a video of said game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBDnFbIDpA8
M. Janet
SETA Downtown/Mokugeki/目擊 - 1CC (Not MAME)
10:55 PM
And a video of a PC-98 in operation (with booting included): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vzmR3vdyoA
zzpsddi
PC-9801VX Demonstration
leilei 3/10/2018 11:00 PM
did you ever get that pc9821 socket7 computer and did you dump it
11:01 PM
i just want any socket 7-related pc9821 bios at this point
11:01 PM
triton chipset if possible
cuba200611 3/10/2018 11:01 PM
I do have it, and it works - just that I need to do stuff such as replacing the floppy drive and some other stuff before I can really use it.
leilei 3/10/2018 11:02 PM
because i don't think using an award 430vx bios makes an appropriate experience to emulate a later pc9821 (edited)
cuba200611 3/10/2018 11:02 PM
Since the floppy drive's borked, and I removed the hard drive - to image it later, so the computer can only boot to BASIC for the time being. (edited)
leilei 3/10/2018 11:03 PM
a pc9821 that new still has rom basic!?
cuba200611 3/10/2018 11:03 PM
Yep.
11:09 PM
Although I'd rather get a floppy emulator, to avoid the hassle that is writing 1.2 MB 3.5 inch floppies.
leilei 3/10/2018 11:13 PM
VFD might work
11:13 PM
probably the best floppy emulator i've used ages ago
11:13 PM
shame it doesn't work on newer windows
Laenthor 3/10/2018 11:37 PM
That subnautica page's going to be pretty big once I'm done
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/11/2018 4:48 AM
I found unused images in Taisen! Bakudan Poipoi. It has many unused images.
4:49 AM
and It seems to remain from "Project Minerva"(PS2).
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/11/2018 5:04 AM
There are 350 files over...
punk7890 3/11/2018 5:34 AM
nice find
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/11/2018 6:19 AM
Thank you! Simple series does not remains unused things in ROM usually. but This game was different.
punk7890 3/11/2018 8:14 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/972807810600787969
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several hidden cheats in NiGHTS into Dreams... (PS2). 2 of which give the 2 main characters swimsuits, 1 of them is unknown currently, and the others... don't work anymore. You'll get a "You cannot use this command" message after inputti...
8:14 AM
8:15 AM
The cheats that don't work anymore are... strange. Why even leave them in the game? It's like saying "Great you found a secret! But, it doesn't do anything."
8:17 AM
I wonder if they work on the PS3 version
8:17 AM
and the former ones that work on ps2, won't work on PS3
Deleted User 3/11/2018 9:36 AM
@sunn When you find the spammer spamming the wiki
9:36 AM
https://youtu.be/mQ20mziMsng?t=12s (edited)
DevEd 3/11/2018 9:46 AM
npzman dm'd me
9:46 AM
he wanted me to get him unbanned from here
9:46 AM
ban him harder please
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/11/2018 9:50 AM
9:51 AM
@DevEd please dm me some screenshots
DevEd 3/11/2018 9:51 AM
done
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/11/2018 9:52 AM
thx
skeletonhugger 3/11/2018 10:37 AM
uh
10:37 AM
https://tcrf.net/Special:Contributions/Lamont2922
Lamont2922
DevEd 3/11/2018 10:59 AM
aaaaaaaand it's gone
skeletonhugger 3/11/2018 11:10 AM
Jacob 3/11/2018 12:09 PM
12:10 PM
z20kdc 3/11/2018 12:38 PM
maybe they just don't like consoles
Jacob 3/11/2018 12:42 PM
12:43 PM
12:43 PM
@z20kdc
z20kdc 3/11/2018 12:44 PM
How should I know?
Jacob 3/11/2018 12:45 PM
I mean
12:46 PM
How does one not like a GameCube
🍦vaniemarshie 3/11/2018 12:48 PM
I don't like the GameCube.
Dezent 3/11/2018 1:19 PM
I haven't owned a GC ever so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxK_nA2iVXw
Torbjørn Marstein Kruke
Futurama - I Have No Strong Feelings One Way or the Other
Laenthor 3/11/2018 1:25 PM
I never owned a gamecube either, but I wish I had. These controllets are god-like quality.
1:25 PM
*controllers
Deleted User 3/11/2018 1:33 PM
kirby gcn screenshot with out ign water mark
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/11/2018 1:49 PM
I never had a GC either
🐮 3/11/2018 2:10 PM
I had completely forgotten that NiGHTS into dreams... came out on PS2
2:12 PM
So what criteria do you use to decide what games you're going to look into @punk7890
2:12 PM
Do you have some kind of list that you go through game by game?
Δndrew P. 3/11/2018 4:05 PM
I have a GameCube but again it’s in my dad’s RV in Florida. I can show you guys once i get there in a week ™
🐮 3/11/2018 4:59 PM
Show us what? :o
Deleted User 3/11/2018 6:53 PM
I need to figure out how to get "sane" homebrew on my GC...
Δndrew P. 3/11/2018 6:55 PM
@ tymek my Gamecube
Deleted User 3/11/2018 7:10 PM
hello
divingkxt 3/11/2018 7:18 PM
Hello.
7:18 PM
I left some general notes about unused item finding.
7:18 PM
You need to find the appropriate pointer table for the items.
7:19 PM
You can edit which items appear either during gameplay or messing with a save file.
7:19 PM
In older games, the most items there may have been were 255.
7:19 PM
If you can find pointers to item names, more power to you.
punk7890 3/11/2018 7:27 PM
@🐮 I basically look at games that are made by developers that are known to have debug menus in their games. Other than that, it's mostly random.
leilei 3/11/2018 7:42 PM
when i made a debug menu it was to debug 3d video output more than anything else
7:43 PM
the menu consisted of gradients, rgb ramps, a really zoomed in texel, etc
7:43 PM
it was a debug menu more for studying video hardware than game debugging
7:43 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
7:44 PM
just overblown video calibration screens
mk i 3/11/2018 8:05 PM
admission: I've never owned a console, all my games are PC - they're not Steam downloads either, they're all from physical discs (edited)
8:05 PM
I did like playing my friend's PS3 at his house sometimes hto
leilei 3/11/2018 8:08 PM
only discs?
8:09 PM
i only really abandoned consoles around 95 when i didn't like the 5th generation all that much
8:10 PM
the n64 controller looked repulsive; the psx looked really jittery for me; and saturn was just mostly hype to me and none of my friends had one. also lol 3do
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/11/2018 8:11 PM
interesting to hear opinions from 95
leilei 3/11/2018 8:11 PM
the psx eventually redeemed itself
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/11/2018 8:11 PM
i suppose you might know more about the terms too?
8:11 PM
like people calling the PS1 the PSX still
8:11 PM
its bothered me a ton
leilei 3/11/2018 8:12 PM
i didn't even see n64's real graphics at the time, the early articles about the controller were enough to drive me away
ゲームボーイ64 3/11/2018 8:12 PM
when you said psx I thought of the ps2 dvr
leilei 3/11/2018 8:12 PM
yeah i never dropped the psx habit.....or even the 'zelda64' habit either
8:17 PM
nintendo's partial rebranding in the US didn't help
8:18 PM
i never liked that colorful 3d N (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/11/2018 8:18 PM
get N or get out
leilei 3/11/2018 8:22 PM
what really swayed me to PC then was modding. <insert snobby pc arrogance here>
8:22 PM
i wasn't looking forward to a new console until the PS2
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/11/2018 8:23 PM
what was PC like back then?
leilei 3/11/2018 8:24 PM
95-99 had some rapid generational shifts (edited)
8:27 PM
my 95 experience largely involved klik & play and doom + dck
8:27 PM
wasd wasn't a thing
8:28 PM
and mice with balls suck
2
2
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:28 PM
Why is the Playstation called the PSX? Isn't it like calling the wii Riivolution?
leilei 3/11/2018 8:28 PM
no one said riivolution
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/11/2018 8:29 PM
riivolution is homebrew
8:29 PM
it was called revolution
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:29 PM
yeah I know, it's like the NX for the switch
8:29 PM
oh XD
leilei 3/11/2018 8:30 PM
i'm glad we don't have DirectX Box One X
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:30 PM
I didn't get regularly informed on video games until like 2007. My first console ever was a GBA
8:30 PM
Thankfully my parents knew good games. My first mario game was mario advance (mario 2)
leilei 3/11/2018 8:32 PM
also joysticks for pc then weren't very durable
8:32 PM
and always needed analog calibration
8:34 PM
and a lot of the proposed joystick control schemes back then for non-flight games were a trainwreck anyway
8:35 PM
it wasn't until 1999 pc finally had a good analog controller
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:36 PM
Tell me about it, this was my father's controller back in like 99-00'
leilei 3/11/2018 8:36 PM
ouch
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/11/2018 8:36 PM
you said N64 was bad?
leilei 3/11/2018 8:36 PM
oh wait it's in a mirror
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/11/2018 8:36 PM
christ
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:36 PM
The joysticks have no dead zone and the d-pad is stiffer than the xbox360's
8:36 PM
yeah it's mirrored because webcam
leilei 3/11/2018 8:36 PM
the Interact3dfx Hammerhead FX sv-262 was good
8:37 PM
......except for any nt driver support it had
8:37 PM
it's only mostly remembered for the 3dfx branding than anything else now (edited)
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:37 PM
But what was cool about it is that there is a mode and rumble button. Mode switches the dpad and left stick and rumble toggles rumble
8:38 PM
there was also a slider for the rumble intensity but it broke
leilei 3/11/2018 8:38 PM
a lot of logitech pads do that
8:39 PM
the interact3dfx didn't though
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:39 PM
It lasted a while, broke something like 3 years ago
leilei 3/11/2018 8:39 PM
i wanted it for the 6 buttons at the right, force feedback rumble and the analogs
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:39 PM
it still works it's just that you can't control the rumble intensity
leilei 3/11/2018 8:39 PM
it relied on 2 AA batteries
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:40 PM
ehh, that's meh
8:40 PM
oh right the R button is completely unresponsive, hence why I bought an xbox one controller that still works wonders today
leilei 3/11/2018 8:40 PM
I currently use a DS3
8:40 PM
though its start button is starting to break
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:41 PM
My friend lended me his ps3 so I could play the metal gear legacy collection that has yet to be released on ps3 #Fuckonami...
8:42 PM
And I have to twist it like you remove the water out of a wet towel because otherwise it presses every button quickly and randomly
8:42 PM
Some dirty things might be going on in the circuit board but since it's not mine I don't want to dissasemble it
leilei 3/11/2018 8:42 PM
my main issue with the n64 controller was the tri handle design
8:43 PM
also giving controllers handles was still an alien concept to me then
8:43 PM
or grip whatever
8:43 PM
and the controller issue made me pass dreamcast as well
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:43 PM
Doomguy could play the n64 properly
8:44 PM
Yeah, the wire on the dreamcast is on the opposite side and that bothers me so much
leilei 3/11/2018 8:44 PM
coughdoomguys left handedcough
Laenthor 3/11/2018 8:45 PM
Metal Gear has one of the most realistic gun aiming ever
8:46 PM
talking about mgs2 and onwards
leilei 3/11/2018 8:52 PM
at least trespasser does it realistically......if not just being stuck to one arm
ゲームボーイ64 3/11/2018 8:52 PM
GBA still holds up today
leilei 3/11/2018 8:53 PM
i've always hated the gba's scratchy sound and the ds inheriting that
8:53 PM
i had spc700-ish expectations :/
8:53 PM
but given the circumstances of the hardware it stuck with it seems reasonable in retrospect
8:55 PM
and in a way it's kind of a partial revival of amiga paula-ish music in professional gamedev (edited)
8:57 PM
this is especially true for games like Backtrack
8:58 PM
which was literally a port from windows by a team with atari st experience
ƒluƒƒу 3/11/2018 10:27 PM
wait hang on
10:27 PM
re the mother 1+2 article
10:27 PM
10:27 PM
isn't this used?
10:27 PM
or did the translation patch just re-enable the alternate saturn prompt
10:27 PM
(after translating it, obviously)
divingkxt 3/11/2018 10:28 PM
How is it enabled?
ƒluƒƒу 3/11/2018 10:29 PM
i'm 90% sure that in that patch, i've seen the prompt show up in saturn text
10:29 PM
i want to say it's a post game clear thing but i can't for the life of me recall for certain
10:30 PM
i don't appear to presently have any saves or states that actually load it
10:30 PM
god i hope i'm not making shit up here
10:31 PM
but this is very familiar
10:37 PM
ok kinda sorta vaguely confirmed by mandelin? https://earthboundcentral.com/2011/02/mother-12-selection-screen/
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/11/2018 10:37 PM
It is used in JP version.
10:41 PM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F-yzVhzrqD8
madeleine0401
GBA MOTHER 1＋2 「MOTHER」 part 1
divingkxt 3/11/2018 10:43 PM
OK then. Off it goes.
ƒluƒƒу 3/11/2018 10:46 PM
sorry for the trouble
punk7890 3/11/2018 10:54 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/973029174494445569
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a simple debug display in Robot Alchemic Drive (PS2). https://t.co/dTxHJynhSI Shows CPU usage, free memory, and player position.
10:54 PM
pretty lame but, お well
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/11/2018 10:55 PM
ギガンティックドライブ！ nice!
punk7890 3/11/2018 10:55 PM
yeah its the same type of debug display you found in 地球防衛軍 (edited)
10:56 PM
same dev
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/11/2018 11:01 PM
yeah, Sandlot diverted source code, models and sounds for create 地球防衛軍1/2.
ゲームボーイ64 3/11/2018 11:03 PM
how is 地球防衛軍 read in hiragana?
punk7890 3/11/2018 11:03 PM
chikyuuboueigun
11:04 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ ah makes sense
ゲームボーイ64 3/11/2018 11:04 PM
ちきゅうぼうえいぐん
11:04 PM
ok
11:04 PM
salamander?
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/11/2018 11:04 PM
Earth Defence Force
ゲームボーイ64 3/11/2018 11:04 PM
ahhhhh
punk7890 3/11/2018 11:04 PM
salamander?
ゲームボーイ64 3/11/2018 11:05 PM
it's a sh'em'up
punk7890 3/11/2018 11:05 PM
ah
ゲームボーイ64 3/11/2018 11:05 PM
i suck with kanji
cuba200611 3/11/2018 11:06 PM
Only Earth Defense Force that I know is this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN0ugPzWiJo (edited)
Martinoz - Command & Conquer Red Alert
E.D.F Earth Defense Force (Arcade/Jaleco/1991) [720p]
punk7890 3/11/2018 11:07 PM
there;s one on PS3/PC that's fun for awhile
cuba200611 3/11/2018 11:07 PM
The old Jaleco shump.
11:11 PM
The stage 1 theme comes from this FDS game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXD8A8QikCU
Patrick So
Big Challenge! Dogfight Spirit (FDS) - Stage 1
11:12 PM
And this FDS game reminds me of Twin Eagle by Seta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-e85zmEoqk
Replay Burners
1988 [60fps] Twin Eagle Nomiss ALL
punk7890 3/11/2018 11:35 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ Do you mind if I tweet about your Penny Racers 64 (Choro Q) debug menu discovery sometime? I'll give you credit, of course.
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/11/2018 11:36 PM
No problem.
Laenthor 3/12/2018 10:27 AM
Tcrf is slow again. Anyone else?
Smoke 3/12/2018 10:28 AM
yep
Laenthor 3/12/2018 10:39 AM
@Xkeeper ?
Xkeeper 3/12/2018 12:54 PM
just usual system slowness unfortunately
12:54 PM
tcrf has more or less started to outgrow its current host
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/12/2018 12:58 PM
oof
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/12/2018 12:58 PM
need more cacti club bribery
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/12/2018 12:59 PM
alright stand back i got dis
12:59 PM
pickpockets @SirenaBeach
cuba200611 3/12/2018 2:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBpfImpTT5Y
Raspberryfloof
2 .sorB oiraM repuS
Laenthor 3/12/2018 3:02 PM
Is it just the inverted pitches or what?
cuba200611 3/12/2018 3:03 PM
The frequency table is in reverse order.
Laenthor 3/12/2018 3:05 PM
XD
Snakeshroom (old account) 3/12/2018 3:50 PM
I have arranged some of the tiles on the unused GFX from MOTHER1+2
3:51 PM
I think it may have worked like the Mario Advance gme selection screens
🐮 3/12/2018 3:55 PM
Ehm what the heck man You would look at iCarly 2 but not Phantasy Star Portable 2? for shame
3:55 PM
SELECTION DECISION god same
rampy 3/12/2018 4:23 PM
@Xkeeper what kind of system/vps is tcrf running on?
4:23 PM
Think I heard Linode somewhere
Xkeeper 3/12/2018 4:24 PM
linode, yes
Halfbit 3/12/2018 5:23 PM
Yo dudes
5:24 PM
Not much. Bored
Revo 3/12/2018 5:44 PM
I just spent 3 hours ripping 300MB worth of tools, compilers, and libraries from an SGI workstation
5:44 PM
MipsPRO 7.4.4 specifically, which ive done some n64 compilation testing on
5:44 PM
I wish I knew what version the first sdk distributed, though
Deleted User 3/12/2018 10:33 PM
Δndrew P. 3/12/2018 10:42 PM
ngl the GBA bios has a beautiful color palette. I know there are more colors because of the rainbow letters but i couldnt get my timing right (edited)
10:42 PM
punk7890 3/13/2018 2:08 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/973440226763812864
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Bomberman Kart (PS2). Sadly, said debug menu is invisible for unknown reasons. It's possible it is related to an emulation error as it should be printing on screen. Debug cam still works, at least. Nothing to exciting in ...
2:09 AM
Boring, but it's still a debug (invisible) menu.
SirenaBeach 3/13/2018 4:13 AM
say, may a wiki mod please move this to mainspace without leaving a redirect? thanks. https://tcrf.net/User:CeilingFan/Prerelease:Super_Mario_Odyssey
Prerelease:Super Mario Odyssey
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/13/2018 6:36 AM
@punk7890 nice!
Laenthor 3/13/2018 12:52 PM
What kind of announcements? Surely there isn't going to be much in there...
Deleted User 3/13/2018 12:52 PM
I added a failed description.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/13/2018 12:52 PM
stuff pertaining to the site or this discord
Dezent 3/13/2018 12:53 PM
Announcements about announcements announcing you have acknowledged the announcement that will be reported to the member who announced it
Deleted User 3/13/2018 12:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Facade's images technically a JPG?
12:53 PM
or no?
12:53 PM
announcing announcements?
Laenthor 3/13/2018 12:53 PM
So the new alreadyJPEG template is to be used when the in-game rip of the image is already in jpeg or can it be used to upload screenshots in jpeg for example?
old acc! inactive 3/13/2018 12:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos
BobRobster
For when someone posts a compressed image/uses Windows XP to save ...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/13/2018 12:54 PM
@Laenthor it's used for when the ripped image was already stored as a jpeg in the games files (edited)
Laenthor 3/13/2018 12:55 PM
k
12:55 PM
Well, there goes my dream of NOT converting every single jpg from taht subnautica wiki page...
GerbilSoft 3/13/2018 1:08 PM
Do I look like I know what a jay-peg is?
Dezent 3/13/2018 1:12 PM
yes
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 1:14 PM
are they jpegs or jpgs
Dezent 3/13/2018 1:19 PM
I dunno, he just wants a picture of a god-dang hot dog
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/13/2018 1:20 PM
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/13/2018 1:23 PM
Is there a rule on apng?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 1:23 PM
i like apng but its a bitch to setup
1:24 PM
the plugin thats for gimp is kinda buggy
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 1:31 PM
is this template only for ripped jpgs?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 1:41 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:PERFECT_DARK_LINEMODE6.4.jpg
File:PERFECT DARK LINEMODE6.4.jpg
1:41 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/13/2018 1:42 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 1:45 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:MarioMario456
User:MarioMario456
1:46 PM
how the hell is the filesize on the jpg and png completely identical if he presumably converted it (ew) (edited)
Huks 3/13/2018 1:48 PM
I wonder if this guy likes Mario
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/13/2018 1:49 PM
Deleted User 3/13/2018 2:14 PM
it's 293489 vs 293730 bytes
2:14 PM
happy accident
Rim 3/13/2018 2:51 PM
I found a site that carries a zip chock full of old N64 unofficial demos. Most of them have references to users and forums that no longer exist, so it's like stepping into a tomb. Real interesting stuff. Here's one of them:
Birthday_Demo_for_Steve_by_Nep_PD.z64
1.25 MB
Laenthor 3/13/2018 2:53 PM
To this day this is still my favourite picture on the site XD
3
goob 3/13/2018 2:55 PM
it's only missing the hacked player textures and >120 star count
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/13/2018 2:55 PM
shit you're right
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 2:56 PM
i believe theres a few OoT screenshots on the site with 99 ammo
goob 3/13/2018 2:57 PM
last time I looked one of the Mario 64 screenshots had an in-game "YE" watermark but idk if it's still there
Laenthor 3/13/2018 2:57 PM
I remember seeing some of these OoT pics XD
goob 3/13/2018 2:57 PM
I forget which game but one of the screenshots I took I made sure 69 was on a counter
2:57 PM
I'm mature
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 2:57 PM
Laenthor 3/13/2018 2:57 PM
We all are
2:58 PM
Makes me think of these old Melee leaks
goob 3/13/2018 2:58 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:SJamSidewalk.png
File:SJamSidewalk.png
2:58 PM
found it
Laenthor 3/13/2018 2:58 PM
Rim 3/13/2018 2:58 PM
amazing
goob 3/13/2018 2:59 PM
https://tcrf.net/images/archive/a/a9/20170129214130%21SM64-UnusedSmallChillBully.png
2:59 PM
it's been replaced but the old version is still there
2:59 PM
ye
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 2:59 PM
l is real 2401 (edited)
3:00 PM
oh yeah yoshi electron
Laenthor 3/13/2018 3:00 PM
This is golden XD
1
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/13/2018 3:01 PM
LUL
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 3:01 PM
i wouldnt recommend googling his name tbh
Foas 3/13/2018 3:03 PM
ff15 debug exe and some files "leaked", has a pretty underwhelming debug menu on the main menu, dont know if it has one ingame too
goob 3/13/2018 3:03 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=File%3ASJamUnusedSE.ogg
index.php?title=File%3ASJamUnusedSE.ogg
Foas 3/13/2018 3:04 PM
debug info
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 3:04 PM
nice amount of revisions
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/13/2018 3:05 PM
jesus
Laenthor 3/13/2018 3:05 PM
idk I just googled "brawl leaks" and this was like in the first 3 rows
3:05 PM
thanks discord not putting me at the bottom of the chat
goob 3/13/2018 3:06 PM
you could probably get a lot out of FFXV just by messing with files, I was able to do stuff in the benchmark like getting complete control when it's supposed to be automated + model corruptions
3:06 PM
but I already have it on PS4 so idk if I want to spend $50 for that
Foas 3/13/2018 3:08 PM
apparently it works on the demo
3:08 PM
though i guess you would be limited by the demo assets
Foas 3/13/2018 3:17 PM
the build also has a options menu thats not present in the retail version
3:17 PM
for circle button behavior lol
3:17 PM
only actually has text for it in japanese so english throws a missing string error
3:18 PM
3:18 PM
goob 3/13/2018 3:30 PM
I don't remember if that's actually in the PS4 version or not
Foas 3/13/2018 3:33 PM
dont think it is
3:33 PM
might be when the game text is in the japanese
1
3:33 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/307342251347017728/423201631673516043/unknown.png lol
Incineroar 3/13/2018 3:43 PM
hm, might have to archive those files
goob 3/13/2018 4:20 PM
I wish I had that option on PS4 because I actually did find a spot I got permanently stuck in with no way out without resetting the game
4:20 PM
...in between a trashcan and lightpole in the Assassin's creed thing
Foas 3/13/2018 4:25 PM
that would be nice
4:25 PM
i have no idea how to open the menu in game
4:25 PM
i can only do it from the menu
Nex 3/13/2018 4:34 PM
probably some button combo
Foas 3/13/2018 4:42 PM
ya no idea what it could be tho (edited)
Luminar 3/13/2018 4:50 PM
no idea what kind of game it is but it is always worth trying the second controller
Foas 3/13/2018 4:54 PM
sadly isnt possible since its pc
4:55 PM
could in theory be some crazy keyboard combo lol
Luminar 3/13/2018 4:55 PM
but didn't someone say that this is also possible on consoles?
Foas 3/13/2018 4:55 PM
nope
Luminar 3/13/2018 4:55 PM
ah ok then
Foas 3/13/2018 4:55 PM
requires a debug exe
4:57 PM
https://mega.nz/#!gbAEgabY!-8jM1S9QDnZXntIuqCBYPq0KW72a_faMFhg5s9posY0 ff15 debug files for those interested
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4:58 PM
will probably be taken down sooner or later
Nex 3/13/2018 5:13 PM
square enix will go on a hunt lol
Foas 3/13/2018 5:14 PM
ye lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/13/2018 5:15 PM
whered it leak from?
5:19 PM
https://steamdb.info/app/637650/history/
FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION · AppID: 637650
Take the journey, now in ultimate quality. Boasting a wealth of bonus content and supporting ultra high-resolution graphical options and HDR 10, you can now enjoy the beautiful and carefully-crafted experience of FINAL FANTASY XV like never before.
5:20 PM
ah
Neko May 3/13/2018 5:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Neko_Ed/status/973462019755200512?s=19
Neko Ed (@Neko_Ed)
I found out today there's a Wikipedia article for Project Unreality, the first N64 emulator to boot a commercial game. It was also the first emulator I discovered, eventually getting me into the scene by bringing me to Zophar's Domain. That w...
Foas 3/13/2018 6:13 PM
i was told some russian torrent site or smth lol (edited)
6:13 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT
Nex 3/13/2018 6:16 PM
its from a russian warez site
6:16 PM
some dude dropped it but not really saying where he got it from
6:17 PM
needed to register to get the stuff
Foas 3/13/2018 6:21 PM
hope you didnt use a password you use elsewhere
Nex 3/13/2018 6:25 PM
I did not
6:25 PM
and the password is really offending lmao
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/13/2018 6:25 PM
the entire navy seal copypasta
Nex 3/13/2018 6:25 PM
not that hard lmao
Δndrew P. 3/13/2018 8:07 PM
haha yes some evidence that Konami left the japanese text in the USA localization of Yugioh GX Duel Academy.
8:07 PM
looking for more right now™
Δndrew P. 3/13/2018 8:20 PM
Also when i did some map extracting, the outcome of this sprite looks pretty nice, nice enough to be a phone wallpaper or something (((i resized it so if anyone wants to use this go for it))) (edited)
8:21 PM
Δndrew P. 3/13/2018 8:30 PM
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punk7890 3/13/2018 9:11 PM
Welp, found a debug menu in Guncom 2 but the menu is all corrupted.
Sharky 3/13/2018 9:40 PM
I noticed how low quality the videos for GH1's unused songs were on this page: https://tcrf.net/Guitar_Hero So I recorded some high quality videos of the same charts using Clone Hero, a freeware clone of Guitar Hero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5iALaNZGhw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOVlmAk3f3k I apologize if I have posted this in the wrong channel
Guitar Hero
Schwifty Stardust
Unused Guitar Hero Song: Trippolette by Andi Buch
Schwifty Stardust
Unused Guitar Hero Song: Graveyard Shift by Unknown Artist
9:41 PM
these were recorded using a bot
MysticSageJosh 3/14/2018 1:23 AM
If clone hero had zones i hope someone would redo that with a GH1/GH2 theme
MLagaffe 3/14/2018 2:52 AM
@Δndrew P. Japanese graphics left inside USA localizations is common enough. It's more interesting when the JP release is canned or the game is internally multi-language but never takes advantage of it.
punk7890 3/14/2018 4:16 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/973834758684925953
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Guncom 2 (PS2). https://t.co/DIyFsRjlRn Interestingly, this is activated by button inputs. No cheat device required. They probably didn't think someone would find it since the menu starts corrupting graphics in game a bit...
4:17 AM
4:17 AM
Neat it is activated without the use of cheats. Sadly it's kinda buggy
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/14/2018 4:30 AM
neat!
punk7890 3/14/2018 4:41 AM
:>
Sharky 3/14/2018 12:08 PM
Unfortunately, Clone Hero does not currently have support for custom zones.
SirenaBeach 3/14/2018 12:25 PM
@divingkxt thanks
felineki 3/14/2018 12:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T64L5bjPFzk Saturn X-Men Children of the Atom proto
Kiddo Cabbusses | サテラビュー好きの外人さん
[セガサターン] エックス・メン チルドレン オブ ...
FMecha 3/14/2018 1:40 PM
950105 Japan Ver. 3.00
1:40 PM
Does all ports of X-Men CotA have those arcade style startups?
1:40 PM
And why these are there?
Netscape Navigator 3/14/2018 1:46 PM
no
1:46 PM
the english Saturn and PS1 ports just have publisher logos and copyright text
1:46 PM
maybe the japanese final too
1:46 PM
can't find a full startup video but probably took them out
Netscape Navigator 3/14/2018 1:55 PM
possible they used the arcade code as so much of a base they include all the startup screens
1:56 PM
since the capcom logo clearly super early and the title screen text is a direct copy of the arcade even though the port came out in 1995
1:58 PM
i could have sworn i remember one psx or saturn capcom game that had that same arcade info screen in the final (edited)
1:58 PM
but they made so many it's hard to search for
Laenthor 3/14/2018 2:46 PM
Is this an acceptable username? It confused me at first as I thought a spambot created a page but no, it's a use
2:46 PM
*user
Nex 3/14/2018 2:48 PM
wtf
2:48 PM
lmao
Revenant 3/14/2018 2:53 PM
it's acceptable as long as they don't edit more than 1 page
Laenthor 3/14/2018 2:57 PM
There should be a character limit on usernames just to be sure
2:57 PM
30-40 should be plenty
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/14/2018 3:14 PM
15 tops in all honesty
Netscape Navigator 3/14/2018 3:15 PM
16 imo
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/14/2018 3:17 PM
17 to be safe
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/14/2018 3:17 PM
Revenant 3/14/2018 3:17 PM
5 imo
karmic 3/14/2018 3:18 PM
0 pls
3:18 PM
anonymous tcrf
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/14/2018 3:19 PM
honestly 4 letter names was the worst shit in old RPG's and the like (edited)
Nex 3/14/2018 3:48 PM
I guess I'm bad with 3 letters
Laenthor 3/14/2018 3:49 PM
15 would be ideal imo
FrostedGeulleisia 3/14/2018 3:54 PM
what if we could only specify one letter from the alphabet, and everyone needed to pick a different one
Incineroar 3/14/2018 4:39 PM
what if we all just did single ascii characters?
4:40 PM
i call dibs on the new line character
goob 3/14/2018 4:40 PM
I call ︎
4:40 PM
oh no that changes in Discord :<
4:40 PM
Incineroar 3/14/2018 4:40 PM
goob 3/14/2018 4:41 PM
☭
z20kdc 3/14/2018 4:43 PM
try prefixing \
4:43 PM
☃
goob 3/14/2018 4:43 PM
☃︎
4:43 PM
☃︎
z20kdc 3/14/2018 4:44 PM
☕
4:44 PM
playing around in the emoji block are we
goob 3/14/2018 4:45 PM
I wonder how often a lot of these are even used
Netscape Navigator 3/14/2018 5:14 PM
next time on dragon ball ☡ (edited)
GerbilSoft 3/14/2018 6:01 PM
hm
6:01 PM
so it turns out there was something designed for the NES expansion port
6:01 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/09/27/business/nintendo-and-minnesota-set-a-living-room-lottery-test.html
By EBEN SHAPIRO
Nintendo and Minnesota Set A Living-Room Lottery Test
6:01 PM
a modem for the Minnesota Lottery
6:01 PM
it never left testing
Smoke 3/14/2018 6:11 PM
Cool
punk7890 3/14/2018 8:29 PM
hi
goob 3/14/2018 8:57 PM
https://twitter.com/Goobbue_XIV/status/974086918253277184
🍓🐸💚 (@Goobbue_XIV)
I never really thought to check if there was a Blinx website, there's not really much but E3+TGS images and this piece of offical art are cool https://t.co/fo1SWGQRNT it was online up until 2009
8:57 PM
there's that unused Game Over screen
8:59 PM
8:59 PM
Deleted User 3/14/2018 9:23 PM
gerbilsoft drums
LuigiBlood 3/14/2018 9:59 PM
So
9:59 PM
I must say
9:59 PM
9:59 PM
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/974095524667146240
Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica)
New Hint Art is here! Use the hint in this image to help you find where treasure is buried. Do a Ground Pound in the right place and you’ll get something good! #SuperMarioOdyssey
9:59 PM
10:03 PM
it does not give a moon
Laenthor 3/14/2018 10:04 PM
Dang, I played mario odyssey to death for a week and then I never touched it since november
LuigiBlood 3/14/2018 10:04 PM
But I'm sure people must have tried it
10:04 PM
But only works now
10:04 PM
So I guess there's some online checks for Hint Arts
Laenthor 3/14/2018 10:08 PM
@divingkxt so, err, should this user change his name before flooding the modification logs with confusion?
divingkxt 3/14/2018 10:23 PM
"Nah. I like having weird sentences in my username.. I use them on other sites. "
Laenthor 3/14/2018 10:24 PM
eww, I always use the same username just to be sure
10:27 PM
oh HE said that, thought you were giving out your opinion
divingkxt 3/14/2018 10:28 PM
So long as he edits only one page, he's good.
10:28 PM
Well, one mainspace page.
Huks 3/15/2018 6:38 AM
If he tries editing other pages then he's banned for being a filthy liar
/dev/urandom 3/15/2018 6:58 AM
aww
Jill 3/15/2018 8:22 AM
I found an early version of a map in Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc's files. There currently doesn't seem to be a way to load it ingame so I quickly dropped it into Unity.
8:22 AM
https://my.mixtape.moe/jrqwby.mp4
8:24 AM
Transparency on textures isn't perfect in this video and neither is the lighting.
8:24 AM
This map in particular doesn't currently have lighting data (vertex colouring) in a format that's readable right now I don't think, but there exists a second, slightly less complete copy of it with vertex colouring. (edited)
8:24 AM
8:27 AM
The layout is almost identical to the final but most of the textures are different and there are differences with the doors.
8:30 AM
It should be noted that this isn't a perfect representation of how it should probably look because I used assets from the Windows port of the game, which has some textures translated,
/dev/urandom 3/15/2018 8:30 AM
translated as in "changed from one language into another"?
Jill 3/15/2018 8:31 AM
Yes.
8:31 AM
The game was localised from Japanese.
/dev/urandom 3/15/2018 8:31 AM
ah
Jill 3/15/2018 8:32 AM
Though I can't get the original files because I don't own the Japanese PSP copy of the game.
/dev/urandom 3/15/2018 8:32 AM
i thought it also could be translated as in "shifted/realigned by some amount"
Jill 3/15/2018 8:32 AM
My bad.
/dev/urandom 3/15/2018 8:32 AM
np
Jill 3/15/2018 8:36 AM
I believe there's another couple of unused maps present however one of them I'll have to manually figure out the textures for.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 9:36 AM
while playing DR2 i noticed the shop icon in the school was changed from the yen to a dollar
9:37 AM
which was strange because its a yen in the first game
Laenthor 3/15/2018 9:58 AM
In what version? I played the steam version recently
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 9:58 AM
yeah it was there
9:58 AM
🐮 3/15/2018 10:10 AM
So Nintendo Zone is being terminated entirely on March 28th
10:14 AM
It appears a lot of people do not even know what Nintendo Zone is
Dezent 3/15/2018 10:14 AM
Nah, it's just zoning out
10:14 AM
:>
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 10:14 AM
i tried to access it at mcdonalds iirc and it just froze
🐮 3/15/2018 10:14 AM
Nintendo kind of did a poor job handling that It did not help that the application wasn't on the HOME Menu until you happened to be in the vicinity of a Nintendo Zone by chance
10:14 AM
@Dezent Har har. :P
10:15 AM
Huh, really?
10:15 AM
There's only one Nintendo Zone here but I haven't been there in forever so I have no idea if it functions
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 10:15 AM
the connection was shit but i recall seeing the menu screen but thats about it (edited)
🐮 3/15/2018 10:15 AM
Also people are saying it's been useless in the US for years now apparently
10:15 AM
You could save a few pages to your system memory
10:15 AM
There never was a lot to do with Nintendo Zone truth to be told
10:16 AM
Well I mean it used to have exclusive things like items for New Leaf or cards for Mario and Sonic that could only be obtained from there but still
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 10:16 AM
>that could only be obtained from there
🐮 3/15/2018 10:16 AM
It's just an odd situation
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 10:16 AM
is that why i cant seem to finish it
🐮 3/15/2018 10:16 AM
You mean, the Mario and Sonic album?
10:16 AM
Yes
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 10:16 AM
FUCK
🐮 3/15/2018 10:16 AM
Same.
10:17 AM
I'm glad you knew what I was talking about right away.
10:18 AM
In Japan they only announced the end of the "StreetPass Relay Service", but it's on the same date as Nintendo Zone so
10:18 AM
Plus it literally uses Nintendo Zone for that
10:18 AM
Not sure if they're going to shut down Nintendo Zone entirely over there aswell What a messy situation (edited)
10:20 AM
Does anyone else remember the trick that let you turn your home internet into a Nintendo Zone hotspot?
Laenthor 3/15/2018 10:21 AM
The only nintendo hotspot in my city was the mcdonalds
10:22 AM
But they removed it because no one really cared
🐮 3/15/2018 10:22 AM
10:23 AM
There used to be over 25,000 Nintendo Zone hotspots in Europe
10:23 AM
Farewell the dream I guess
goob 3/15/2018 10:23 AM
It was useful before the eShop came out
🐮 3/15/2018 10:23 AM
Now that you mention it
10:23 AM
I remember that you were able to download demos
10:23 AM
THROUGH the Nintendo Zone
10:24 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT @Laenthor What region are you two in?
Laenthor 3/15/2018 10:24 AM
Canada
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 10:24 AM
winland (edited)
Laenthor 3/15/2018 10:24 AM
*obvious joke is obvious
10:24 AM
This username triggers me on so many levels XD
🐮 3/15/2018 10:25 AM
Ah, a fellow European
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 10:25 AM
while on the topic of DR2
10:25 AM
i was amazed by the amount of typos
10:25 AM
10:25 AM
one of my favs
10:25 AM
implies they typed all of this manually
🐮 3/15/2018 10:26 AM
I also am hungey
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 10:26 AM
and here they botched the items title
🐮 3/15/2018 10:28 AM
Is this in the final game or
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/15/2018 10:29 AM
i played through on steam like a month or two ago
10:29 AM
they clearly didnt seem to have any interest in cleaning up with updates (edited)
Laenthor 3/15/2018 10:42 AM
I like this line.
z20kdc 3/15/2018 10:43 AM
it's almost as if it's a reference or something
Laenthor 3/15/2018 10:43 AM
HMMMMM
10:44 AM
Greatest song ever
FMecha 3/15/2018 11:00 AM
http://mametesters.org/view.php?id=6887
MAME Testers - 06887: aso: Only for information about ASO - Armore...
z20kdc 3/15/2018 12:04 PM
Laenthor: to be fair, that could be an intentional song name choice
Hiccup 3/15/2018 12:15 PM
@🐮 I'll be very disappointed if it shuts down and isn't preserved. Same happened with the DSi one AFAIK. Lets just hope none of those demos were pre-release... (edited)
Revenant 3/15/2018 2:33 PM
https://twitter.com/ItsTheShadsy/status/974351834549837826
Phil Salvador (@ItsTheShadsy)
In 1998, Panasonic released Secret Writer's Society, an educational writing game that was sabotaged to make it swear at kids The game was pulled, and it's been missing for 20 years. But I got a copy. And now you can play it too! https://t.co/...
Revo 3/15/2018 3:13 PM
i guess https://lostmediawiki.com/Secret_Writer%27s_Society_(lost_educational_writing_game;_late_1990s) needs updating now
SecretWriter%27s_Society(lost_educational_writing_game;_late_1990s)
3:13 PM
unless you wanna add "Patched Version: Lost"
🐮 3/15/2018 3:41 PM
That. Is amazing. @Revenant
pepper 3/15/2018 3:56 PM
incredible
LinkingHeartZ 3/15/2018 4:47 PM
I dun goofed :l
Smoke 3/15/2018 4:48 PM
rip
LinkingHeartZ 3/15/2018 4:49 PM
if y'all are wondering, this is the original Tomb Raider
4:49 PM
not the iOS one
Revenant 3/15/2018 4:51 PM
use "systems=" instead of "system=" when listing multiple
LinkingHeartZ 3/15/2018 4:51 PM
ok, thanks
Revenant 3/15/2018 4:51 PM
np
LinkingHeartZ 3/15/2018 4:54 PM
oh, and speaking of Tomb Raider, any of you know if the 3rd game's demo listed on the site is the same demo on the old Pizza Hut demo discs?
4:54 PM
well... maybe not, considering that I confused it with The Last Revelation
4:54 PM
nevermind then
goob 3/15/2018 8:59 PM
@Hiccup I'm not sure exactly how it worked but there was some version of Nintendo Zone distributed from an original DS with a server cartridge like the DS download stations
9:00 PM
But I'm not sure if that was just the first version or a simplified alternative for areas that can't have it over wifi
9:02 PM
9:02 PM
punk7890 3/15/2018 10:27 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/974472168200314880
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug mode in Utau * Tumbling Dice (PS2). Same dev as Guncom 2, as such this is also activated by button inputs. No cheat device needed. They also left the Guncom 2 debug menu in this game, as well as language changing options that don...
10:27 PM
MrRichard999 3/16/2018 1:06 AM
I see there are debug options in Might and Magic 2 (Japanese Version)_ for the SNES. Anyway to unlock that?
divingkxt 3/16/2018 1:07 AM
Uh... not to my knowledge.
1:08 AM
No way to access without hacking or cheating devices.
MrRichard999 3/16/2018 1:22 AM
Ahh, ok. I just happend to see it in the hex code some odd options that seem like a debug menu for play testing
divingkxt 3/16/2018 1:23 AM
https://tcrf.net/Might_and_Magic_II_(SNES,_Japan)
Might and Magic II (SNES, Japan)
leilei 3/16/2018 1:23 AM
i didn't know that had a snes port
1:23 AM
sounds really late for it
divingkxt 3/16/2018 1:24 AM
It had two different SNES ports.
MrRichard999 3/16/2018 1:24 AM
Oh nice!
divingkxt 3/16/2018 1:24 AM
https://tcrf.net/Might_and_Magic_II_(SNES,_Europe)
Might and Magic II (SNES, Europe)
1:24 AM
Here's the other.
MrRichard999 3/16/2018 1:24 AM
I am working on a translation for the Japan version
leilei 3/16/2018 1:24 AM
yikes that title screen
1:25 AM
why couldn't they just stick with the unicorn
divingkxt 3/16/2018 1:26 AM
Probably because they didn't have the art for it.
1:26 AM
Mind, we only have the page for the Mac OS Classic version.
1:26 AM
And the two SNES versions.
leilei 3/16/2018 1:28 AM
1:29 AM
you have to love the aliased scaling here
divingkxt 3/16/2018 1:34 AM
Like it was originally drawn for the Apple II...
1:35 AM
then badly scaled from 280*192 to 320 * 200
1:35 AM
There's even four black lines at the bottom.
1:35 AM
320*196.
divingkxt 3/16/2018 1:43 AM
1:43 AM
Apple II composite for comparison
1:43 AM
Actually looks even more stretched
1:44 AM
But it does take full advantage of Apple II graphics capabilities.
/dev/urandom 3/16/2018 1:52 AM
i thought the apple ii was only capable of 6 colors in composite (edited)
divingkxt 3/16/2018 1:44 PM
Low-Resolution mode allows 16 colors, whereas High-Resolution has 6 (technically 8).
cuba200611 3/16/2018 2:44 PM
Actually, Might and Magic II is one of the few games that uses the Apple IIe's Double High Resolution mode.
Netscape Navigator 3/16/2018 3:33 PM
has the sonic 3 re-release curse spread to s&k too now
3:33 PM
excluded from the latest console compilation of Mega Drive games
Revenant 3/16/2018 3:33 PM
damn you, michael jackson
Deleted User 3/16/2018 3:41 PM
hi
3:41 PM
so i'd like to make changes to an article that hasn't been edited for really, a while now and uh registering wont work
3:41 PM
the site owners have to update their captcha
3:45 PM
anyways, the article i'm mentioning is the in the groove ps2 article, i have my own copy and had just dug through it a couple days ago finding that the manual used beta screenshots of the game and that the ps2 build was based off the arcade build, many arcade leftovers maybe even from 2004 or late 2003 (idk) are left over in the game
FMecha 3/16/2018 3:52 PM
Possible other unused CAW parts in Smackdown 2? http://s15.zetaboards.com/legendsofmodding/topic/10076340/1/
Exploring existing CAW parts
we are modding and reprogramming experts of wrestling games
punk7890 3/16/2018 7:05 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/974783553824157696
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Melty Blood: Act Cadenza (PS2). https://t.co/ybbMwAZaGP Same dev as Guncom 2 + Utau Tumbling Dice. All of their games on PS2 had debug menus. Unfortunately, this one isn't activated by button inputs.
7:05 PM
divingkxt 3/16/2018 7:08 PM
11 articles away from 12,000.
7:08 PM
According to the front page
punk7890 3/16/2018 7:09 PM
Close to 400 PS2 pages as well
old acc! inactive 3/16/2018 8:48 PM
top 10 questions science still can't answer: why does puyo puyo tetris use NARC files in every version of the game? (edited)
Δndrew P. 3/16/2018 8:48 PM
CRIware probaby
8:49 PM
almost every SEGA game thats for Nintendo consoles use CRIware
8:49 PM
CRIware makes me cry for real.
old acc! inactive 3/16/2018 8:51 PM
NARC files are for DS games tho
Δndrew P. 3/16/2018 8:51 PM
Really?
8:51 PM
i did not know that
old acc! inactive 3/16/2018 8:51 PM
yeah
8:51 PM
its weird
8:52 PM
3ds shader files are in the vita version too
8:52 PM
for some reason
Δndrew P. 3/16/2018 8:52 PM
Probably CRIware, then (edited)
old acc! inactive 3/16/2018 8:52 PM
why criware tho
8:52 PM
what do they have to do with it
8:52 PM
it's a nintendo-developed format
8:53 PM
which quote on quote "even proclaim to have been created by "NINTENDO TWL-System Archiver""
Δndrew P. 3/16/2018 8:53 PM
One main example is majority of the game’s data is in a CPK archive, as well as of course ADX streams. Another thing is that there’s usually a [CRIware] logo on the back of the game’s box.
8:54 PM
I guess SEGA’s more into using middleware? MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 } (edited)
old acc! inactive 3/16/2018 8:56 PM
Objection!
Δndrew P. 3/16/2018 8:56 PM
Puyo 20th, Chronicle, and Tetris use CRIware, as well as other SEGA games like Rhythm Thief and M&S at 2012 L.O.G.
old acc! inactive 3/16/2018 8:56 PM
i don't see a single mention of criware on the back of PPT's box
8:56 PM
really?
8:56 PM
the 3ds version at least doesn't use criware stuff
8:57 PM
interesting
Δndrew P. 3/16/2018 8:57 PM
hold on
8:57 PM
Lemme bust out my 3DS and use that godmode9
9:00 PM
If i remembered right, Puyo Puyo 20th uses CRI because 1, everything’s in a CPK, like so:
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9:01 PM
When i extracted this it showed a lot of NARC files
9:01 PM
lemme find the screenshot
leilei 3/16/2018 9:02 PM
oh no its the narcs man
Δndrew P. 3/16/2018 9:02 PM
9:02 PM
when i extracted the CPK it
9:03 PM
yeah a lot of NARC and NARC-INFO. No idea what the NARC-INFOs are, probably keys or something?
9:04 PM
Some other SEGA games also use CRIware too. Rhythm Thief is another example
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(If you can wait a bit because i have to look through a lot of stuff to find the romFS of it)
9:06 PM
or yeah another indication would be if the CRIware logo would be in the game manual
ゲームボーイ64 3/16/2018 9:18 PM
soulcalibur 2 and 3 used criware too
Δndrew P. 3/16/2018 9:24 PM
didnt Star Fox Assault use it as well?
punk7890 3/16/2018 9:30 PM
don't think so
Deleted User 3/16/2018 9:36 PM
>narc-info
9:37 PM
weird
9:37 PM
are we sure this is DS narc
Δndrew P. 3/16/2018 10:00 PM
is there like any way to convert Pokemon Colosseum's models into any model that can be supported by Blender
10:00 PM
oops maybe i should post this in #help, my mistake
punk7890 3/16/2018 10:10 PM
wow, just found a 19MB elf file in a early PS2 game. Second biggest since Bujingai (edited)
old acc! inactive 3/16/2018 10:15 PM
it's definitely ds narc
10:15 PM
i opened it up in tinke
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and it recognized it just fine
Deleted User 3/16/2018 11:14 PM
theres so many glitches in luigi's mansion 2 that it's an enigma on how it wasn't ever given a fix patch
leilei 3/17/2018 12:44 AM
criware's pretty common
12:44 AM
but what i really hate about it is that some assume it involves crytek in some way or the cryengine
12:44 AM
because "cri"
12:44 AM
X_X
12:45 AM
it makes me wanna cri
Xkeeper 3/17/2018 1:44 AM
i cri errytime
punk7890 3/17/2018 1:44 AM
;_;
divingkxt 3/17/2018 2:43 AM
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/killing-cloud/trivia
Killing Cloud for DOS (1991) Trivia - MobyGames
View trivia and other interesting tid bits of information for Killing Cloud (DOS)
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" While the game was being developed, when you captured enemy agents, a torture screen was displayed of your team using unsavoury methods to gain information from them. This was dropped before the game's release after the Amnesty International charity (which campaigns against unfair trials and punishments (including the death penalty) worldwide) complained about it. "
2:49 AM
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dun-darach
Dun Darach for Amstrad CPC (1985) - MobyGames
Dun Darach may be the first ever videogame prequel – to Tir Na Nog. As such, it features the warrior Cuchulainn of Muirmethne, in a war against the Conachta. When he and his colleague Loeg meet a beautiful woman named Skar in an inn, they do no...
2:49 AM
" The map layout features a gap in the Pleasure District - a Red Light district was designed, but removed from the final game for fear of reducing the game's potential audience."
Foas 3/17/2018 11:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju1QDXGOd_0&feature=youtu.be
Gou
Sly 2 Beta - Chopper Mission
11:33 AM
cut mission from the looks of it
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/17/2018 11:44 AM
BETA
Foas 3/17/2018 12:17 PM
its technically the e3 demo
12:18 PM
and the game probably wasnt in beta at the time
12:18 PM
but oh well
Luminar 3/17/2018 12:20 PM
well
12:20 PM
https://youtu.be/pfEQdt0VxJk it is easier to name it that instead of what I named this video
Luminar Light
Jak 2: Unused Early Demo Mission - Destroy Strip Mine Wells (Some ...
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/17/2018 12:21 PM
nice intro
Luminar 3/17/2018 12:22 PM
12:22 PM
in this video I forgot to make the watermark transparent
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/17/2018 12:25 PM
but uhh
12:26 PM
suppose the video is stolen
12:26 PM
how would they even know its you by a picture watermark
Luminar 3/17/2018 12:28 PM
well
12:28 PM
it would look weird on the channel of someone else
12:29 PM
originally I didn't use watermarks but then some random kids started stealing from my videos
12:29 PM
it is just a mark
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/17/2018 12:29 PM
love them BETA kiddies
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Smoke 3/17/2018 12:30 PM
where's the alpha love
Luminar 3/17/2018 12:30 PM
fortunately the people who stole from my videos are incredibly unintelligent and sometimes even copied my descriptions and titles, but seemingly they do not know what they mean
12:31 PM
if anyone sees them they will know that something is wrong
LarryLemmy 3/17/2018 1:54 PM
I sometimes put beta in a title so more people will know what it means or want to look
Luminar 3/17/2018 1:58 PM
I stopped doing that because people started to believe that I possessed beta versions of the games and started demanding me to share it in the comments
Huks 3/17/2018 2:00 PM
Plot twist: it was Wimpykid and his 321903 alts
Luminar 3/17/2018 2:02 PM
nah they were average people, and average people don't read descriptions
divingkxt 3/17/2018 3:29 PM
That's because the descriptions are largely hidden.
3:29 PM
Especially for mobile users.
alex/dass 3/17/2018 3:31 PM
@Huks#3963 hey
3:31 PM
wtf
Huks 3/17/2018 3:38 PM
@alex/dass
alex/dass 3/17/2018 3:39 PM
@Huks#3963
3:39 PM
what the hell stop
divingkxt 3/17/2018 3:41 PM
What's going on?
Nex 3/17/2018 3:44 PM
good question
Huks 3/17/2018 3:48 PM
Just running into a friend
3:48 PM
Seems his Discord doesn't want to tag me though
Deleted User 3/17/2018 4:16 PM
@Huks
4:16 PM
strange
divingkxt 3/17/2018 5:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JABlCNaaNcc
Fablefire
Hardwar - Hidden Developer Message
5:53 PM
Let's see if people can transcribe this.
divingkxt 3/17/2018 6:23 PM
11,999 pages.
Nex 3/17/2018 6:54 PM
I could finish one of my pa- nahhhh
Stewie1.0 3/17/2018 7:00 PM
Im creating a page right now actually
goob 3/17/2018 7:09 PM
accidentally opened a developer console without knowing how and the game crashed shortly after welp
7:10 PM
It's in a game that hasn't come out yet, I'm playing an early build, so its probably a simple button combo that'll be removed at release :v
divingkxt 3/17/2018 7:14 PM
OK, so no page on Darkseed, still...
7:14 PM
For those curious, the floppy disk and CD releases are a little different.
7:14 PM
The CD release rewrote much of the dialogue to be in first-person rather than third-person.
7:15 PM
Which is why everything feels so awkward.
7:15 PM
They didn't dub over the audio clips from the floppy disk version IIRC.
7:15 PM
That aside, the player graphics and overlaid animations are uncompressed in the game's data.
7:15 PM
The backgrounds are not though.
leilei 3/17/2018 8:08 PM
there's got to be a way to get into ps2 elite force's console
8:08 PM
even if that's a vanilla port with.....ps2 keyboard support
8:08 PM
i'd expect the console to be left in as a lazy oversight
Neko May 3/17/2018 8:25 PM
Probably not even an oversight, just plain lazy
Stewie1.0 3/17/2018 8:27 PM
https://tcrf.net/Hatsune_Miku:_Project_DIVA_Dreamy_Theater_Connection_App
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Dreamy Theater Connection App
leilei 3/17/2018 8:31 PM
if the hidden-away usable hypospray and tricorders are still accessible in Renewal, i'd expect a console somewhere
punk7890 3/17/2018 8:32 PM
miku desu
Stewie1.0 3/17/2018 8:35 PM
I cant dump DT 2nd's and Extend's, nor find them anywhere. I do have them officially tho
leilei 3/17/2018 8:35 PM
using the hypospray's altfire really shows off the fillrate
Stewie1.0 3/17/2018 8:35 PM
DT1's i found online
divingkxt 3/17/2018 9:33 PM
So, there we have it, 12,000 pages.
Deleted User 3/17/2018 10:40 PM
yee
10:40 PM
12000
10:40 PM
wow
Deleted User 3/17/2018 11:02 PM
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Sneaker 3/18/2018 12:03 AM
why isn't the ms pac man an emoji yet
12:03 AM
wait there it is
12:03 AM
it loaded
12:03 AM
hahahahah
12:03 AM
Revenant 3/18/2018 12:05 AM
you're welcome
Deleted User 3/18/2018 12:05 AM
Ew wtf!
punk7890 3/18/2018 12:58 AM
nice
🍦vaniemarshie 3/18/2018 12:58 AM
why
Neko May 3/18/2018 1:35 AM
lol
Deleted User 3/18/2018 1:41 AM
1:41 AM
10/10 emote. Thanks Revenant
🍦vaniemarshie 3/18/2018 1:45 AM
i don't think i want to sleep anymore (edited)
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/18/2018 2:13 AM
Cursed emote
🍦vaniemarshie 3/18/2018 2:13 AM
^
goat 3/18/2018 2:18 AM
i don't know if any of y'all have ps4 games you're interested in picking at, but I've just found that fpkg games are unencrypted
2:23 AM
i picked at bloodborne a little but I don't think I found anything very interesting
divingkxt 3/18/2018 2:25 AM
You're serious, right?
2:25 AM
Because Bloodborne has an insane amount of stuff in it.
2:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM2K-ue_2k0
Sanadsk
Bloodborne Unused Dialogues (1) ►Hidden New Interesting Lore! (W...
2:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY_J6GKLTcI
Sanadsk
Bloodborne Unused Dialogues (2) ► Non-Script Hidden Dialogues!
2:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNnWUHDqDXU
Lance McDonald
Bloodborne Cut Content Restored :: 5 Deleted Characters and Enemie...
goat 3/18/2018 2:28 AM
Yeah, the thing is, I don't think I found anything anyone ELSE hasn't found
2:29 AM
I have access to the parambnd stuff and I think MeowDSIO can handle them, and I have peek/poke on the PS4 itself
divingkxt 3/18/2018 2:30 AM
https://tcrf.net/Bloodborne Mind if you add something to this then?
Bloodborne
2:30 AM
Because yeah, this article is pitiful.
2:31 AM
FPKG files are special pkg files that are used for piracy and signed with the key 000000000000
2:31 AM
That message was deleted because of the excessive number of 0's.
goat 3/18/2018 2:32 AM
Haha, oh. I thought it was because of the piracy part.
2:32 AM
Doing memory editing is miserable. To find shards in Horizon Zero Dawn, I had to peek 1.8gb of RAM
2:36 AM
holy shit, the dark souls 2 test npc that was used in the dark souls 1 pc port is still in the bloodborne files
🍦vaniemarshie 3/18/2018 2:36 AM
woah
goat 3/18/2018 2:36 AM
entity id 200 is ＤＳ２　お手軽ロジックテスト用 or "DS2 For easy logic testing"
2:38 AM
i'll whip up a dumper in the morning
2:38 AM
heh everyone has an Equip_Armer field in inits
leilei 3/18/2018 3:00 AM
"in the alpha" D:
punk7890 3/18/2018 3:51 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/975278378088476678
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a small debug menu in Dual Hearts (PS2) https://t.co/XGoa4coJKY Can freely control the camera, and edit ambient lighting. Also displays some stats related to currently rendered effects.
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3:51 AM
lame menu but w/e it's a debug menu
Ikaroa 3/18/2018 6:11 AM
Im such a tired. I just spent the last 3 hours looking through all the mob models of Final fantasy XIV
6:14 AM
Now tomorow I gots to update the page with my findings and add on for Strombood page for its content
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/18/2018 9:59 AM
I found debug menu in Senryaku Shidan Tora! Tora! Tora! Rikusen Hen. but It can't control debug mode. https://tcrf.net/Senryaku_Shidan_Tora!_Tora!_Tora!_Rikusen_Hen
Senryaku Shidan Tora! Tora! Tora! Rikusen Hen
ner0 3/18/2018 10:58 AM
I was looking at the entry for Streets of Rage (Genesis) and did not find any mention to different revisions, it seems that there are two (REV0 and REV1).
10:58 AM
https://tcrf.net/Streets_of_Rage_(Genesis)
Streets of Rage (Genesis)
10:59 AM
Interestingly, going from the headers they were released a long time apart: May 1991 and Feb 1992, respectively
11:00 AM
Comparing the binary data reveals very few changes between both. Also, a Google search didn't return any discussion about 2 revisions of the game.
ner0 3/18/2018 11:54 AM
https://i.imgur.com/SWlqTlD.png
ner0 3/18/2018 12:22 PM
Found it: SoR (REV 01) was shipped in Europe with MDII inside a 3-in-1 cartridge, containing The Revenge of Shinobi, Streets of Rage (REV 01), Golden Axe
Neko May 3/18/2018 12:40 PM
Nice finds. :3
Revenant 3/18/2018 12:47 PM
https://twitter.com/reserved_kirby/status/975320056761430016
Reserved (@reserved_kirby)
DEDEDE'S HEAD IS MODELED UNDER HIS HAT IN STAR ALLIES HE IS BALD JKFGJRIJEJWMFLKEDSNIDFJDLSJFELSILFES
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🐮 3/18/2018 12:48 PM
"nice" find
MusashiAA 3/18/2018 12:48 PM
He is a penguin, after all
🍦vaniemarshie 3/18/2018 12:49 PM
this is an outrage
MusashiAA 3/18/2018 12:49 PM
What did you expect from a penguin?
MysticSageJosh 3/18/2018 12:55 PM
BAAAALD, BAALD, BAAALD, BAALD!!
Smoke 3/18/2018 12:56 PM
https://youtu.be/Qn977W9HjWM
Hufff
Spongebob MY EYES!!!
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Deleted User 3/18/2018 1:18 PM
Wait, people are ALREADY DATAMINING THE NEW KIRBY?!
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/18/2018 1:19 PM
i mean people already did DATAMINE the demo
1:19 PM
and they seem to have left some shit in there like always
Deleted User 3/18/2018 1:20 PM
Ah the demo
1:20 PM
That makes a lot more sense then. I'm just going to... Walks backwards out the door
GerbilSoft 3/18/2018 1:38 PM
https://betanews.com/2018/03/18/playstation-3-linux-lawsuit/
Mark Wycislik-Wilson
If you owned a 'fat' PlayStation 3 you could be entitled to $65 fr...
Cast your mind back to when Sony released the original PlayStation 3, and you may well remember claims that the console was also a
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Smoke 3/18/2018 2:09 PM
Well fuck
Deleted User 3/18/2018 2:26 PM
Well you can now easily hack fat PS3's for piracy and homebrew so $65 wouldn't cut it, (edited)
divingkxt 3/18/2018 2:52 PM
https://twitter.com/mino90h/status/975443361652867072
みの (@mino90h)
おわかりいただけただろうか…… #スーパーマリオオデッセイ #SuperMarioOdyssey #NintendoSwitch 情報元: https://t.co/R1F7dqnr3u https://t.co/cfgOLl4HMr
Deleted User 3/18/2018 4:14 PM
i finally got the files of itg2ps2 extracted
4:15 PM
it doesn't reveal much unused stuff
4:15 PM
more of leftovers from itg1ps2
4:15 PM
i found an early screenshot though
goat 3/18/2018 4:36 PM
you can now easily hack a slim ps3
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 3/18/2018 4:47 PM
you know its weird how in the beta of the legend of zelda wind waker, link's sleeves were brown and then in the early screenshots of wind waker hd his sleeves were also brown
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in fact he's also wearing the black belt from the beta version as well
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/18/2018 4:56 PM
BETA
🍦vaniemarshie 3/18/2018 5:02 PM
It's probably a joke from the developers.
Ziella 3/18/2018 5:26 PM
Does anyone know how I would go about getting that changed so that it's Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc instead?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/18/2018 5:27 PM
its named like that because the data was ripped from the japanese PSP version
divingkxt 3/18/2018 5:27 PM
There's a series template.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/18/2018 5:27 PM
or uhh
divingkxt 3/18/2018 5:28 PM
It's linking to a category at the bottom.
Ziella 3/18/2018 5:28 PM
ppltoast
its named like that because the data was ripped from the japanese PSP version
5:28 PM
I created a PC / Vita page
divingkxt 3/18/2018 5:28 PM
@Ziella Fixed it.
Ziella 3/18/2018 5:28 PM
Ah, thank you.
divingkxt 3/18/2018 5:29 PM
You can edit the series template. Every page has a list of templates used in it, including the series template.
Ziella 3/18/2018 5:30 PM
Ah alrighty. I'll keep that in mind for future reference.
divingkxt 3/18/2018 5:33 PM
You can see it when editing a page, though it's at the bottom.
5:34 PM
Search "Templates used on this page" (no quotes) if it helps.
Ziella 3/18/2018 5:37 PM
Ah, alright, I see it now.
divingkxt 3/18/2018 5:42 PM
Yep.
Deleted User 3/18/2018 6:42 PM
i just enabled an unused coin mode in a ps2 game
6:42 PM
6:42 PM
left over really
6:43 PM
it's left over from the arcade version of the game
6:43 PM
which the ps2 ver is built off of
divingkxt 3/18/2018 6:50 PM
In turn, In The Groove is based off StepMania.
Deleted User 3/18/2018 6:56 PM
exactly
6:56 PM
i only had to edit one line in static.ini
divingkxt 3/18/2018 6:57 PM
It's very easy to mod.
emmanu888 3/18/2018 7:17 PM
What would be really fun is if we could actually get it to load another theme, there's a hacked version with a green theme but getting the game to load another theme would be a good start. (edited)
7:21 PM
I did managed to unpack the ITG2PS2 PCK file that contains its theme
Jill 3/18/2018 8:09 PM
Ah crap, I screwed up the filename uploading an image.
8:09 PM
What do (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/18/2018 8:32 PM
8:33 PM
this game has way too much unused stuff to document by myself in under 2 months
8:36 PM
nvm
8:36 PM
just found more
8:36 PM
estimated time: over a year
divingkxt 3/18/2018 9:19 PM
That's less than how much it took me to even get started on Daggerfall.
leilei 3/18/2018 9:21 PM
i'm procrastinating so hard on the broken shaders in quake3
9:21 PM
there's lots of them and it stretches as far back as the 98 days
9:21 PM
and they're the last thing missing from being covered. i think i got everything else
9:22 PM
though there's a few commented out/unused functions in both engine and game code which may/may not be covered
9:22 PM
like comments that give player momentum to weapon projectiles
9:22 PM
commented out head tilt from 4.01
9:22 PM
bot grapple hook functionality
divingkxt 3/18/2018 11:09 PM
https://tcrf.net/The_Elder_Scrolls_II:_Daggerfall
The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
11:09 PM
So yeah, there's a bunch to add here as well as a bunch to check.
11:09 PM
And that sounds silly given how much this page already has, plus the two prototypes.
11:10 PM
But there really is a whole lot more this page doesn't have.
goob 3/19/2018 12:19 AM
12:20 AM
Has anyone tried looking for leftover code from the Xbox One X dev kit display yet?
divingkxt 3/19/2018 12:22 AM
Not that I know of.
Deleted User 3/19/2018 12:43 AM
somebody should do some hidden content hunting with Illbleed on the Dreamcast
EdTheNerd 3/19/2018 12:45 AM
hmm, yeah the stuff that shows on the display seems like the kind of thing to not bother comenting out of code
12:45 AM
like how most psp games i've tried seem to still use the GPIO switches and leds on the psp tool
divingkxt 3/19/2018 1:43 AM
@Deleted User https://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?pid=445674#445674
Jul -- The Cutting Room Floor: Weird Discoveries
Strange hidden programmer's message in Equinox's menu graphics: http://images.yuku.com/image/png/5be3569948a7c1ef4af8a32e1cb78d709855a39.png http://images....
Deleted User 3/19/2018 2:44 AM
awwwww shiit
punk7890 3/19/2018 4:25 AM
Anyone want to document this massive Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits debug menu? It's too big heh.
🐮 3/19/2018 9:47 AM
“In awe at the size of this lad. Absolute unit.”
Nex 3/19/2018 1:33 PM
goddamn square enix, they cleaned the windows edition of some unused files in FFXV, scripts, textures, models etc. (edited)
z20kdc 3/19/2018 2:33 PM
frankly, how big is that game anyway
2:33 PM
they might actually be doing most people a favour...
Nex 3/19/2018 2:36 PM
only 80GB without the high res pack
goat 3/19/2018 5:11 PM
i'm kind of amazed at how good slay the spire does at keeping unused content out
5:12 PM
the only unused content that is still in is stuff that is intentionally in (the dev tester art) and the third playable character who isn't accessible still has a placeholder sprite (edited)
Deleted User 3/19/2018 5:46 PM
o
goob 3/19/2018 6:30 PM
I wonder what would come first, someone getting ahold of a One X dev kit and being able to mod it or emulation that can show a virtual display to find unused functions for it
Smoke 3/19/2018 7:08 PM
@Xkeeper https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Category:Featured_articles&diff=prev&oldid=552998
Index.php?title=Category:Featured articles&diff=prev&oldid=552998
Xkeeper 3/19/2018 7:09 PM
https://tcrf.net/Special:BlockList
Special:BlockList
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old acc! inactive 3/19/2018 7:14 PM
fancy
Δndrew P. 3/19/2018 7:20 PM
god damn thats a lotta bans
GerbilSoft 3/19/2018 7:22 PM
Lots of spambots
7:22 PM
Some morons, like that one who kept whining because their fake Wii Sports beta wasn't allowed
Nex 3/19/2018 7:26 PM
7:26 PM
that one was some good material
DevEd 3/19/2018 8:02 PM
funny
GerbilSoft 3/19/2018 9:01 PM
There was also the infamous "on wheels" troll
9:01 PM
And variants
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/19/2018 9:16 PM
I love the person who registered as "Tcrf vandaIs club"
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/19/2018 9:25 PM
i'm surprised that npzman hasnt registered
🍦vaniemarshie 3/19/2018 9:35 PM
makes a finding and posts it to tcrf
9:36 PM
My life is complete now.
Chorus Line 3/19/2018 9:45 PM
willy on wheels was the best
divingkxt 3/19/2018 9:46 PM
Willy on Wheels also made slews of accounts until we forced users to make some edits first BEFORE being allowed to move pages.
9:49 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 That's for the better, imo.
9:50 PM
His only edits found thus far are uploads of Reality Factory stuff. http://www.realityfactory.info/cms/
Home
Reality Factory is a free suite of game development tools for building 3D games.
9:50 PM
"Reality Factory is built on top of the Genesis3D engine, a complete real-time 3D rendering environment."
9:51 PM
For the record, I ran a demo for this as a kid. It ran slow as balls on my Intel Pentium 4 PC.
9:51 PM
To be fair, it didn't have a graphics card.
L95 3/19/2018 10:51 PM
heh, I've seen Willy on Wheels on the FE wiki too
ƒluƒƒу 3/19/2018 10:52 PM
i thought that name sounded vaguely familiar
divingkxt 3/19/2018 10:59 PM
I hope Willy doesn't come after my wiki.
Deleted User 3/19/2018 11:08 PM
who was the original Willy
11:09 PM
and if it actually is answered, is it a guy fawkes mask for candals (edited)
divingkxt 3/19/2018 11:09 PM
Some guy from Britain.
11:10 PM
Possibly an angry programmer who wanted to spite Wiki users to show how easy it is to move without warning.
Deleted User 3/19/2018 11:35 PM
im banned on tcrf
11:35 PM
jk
11:35 PM
thats my ded acc
11:36 PM
i dont know what i should write in the article yet, lol
Scoots 3/20/2018 2:19 AM
Has anyone mentioned in the "A Hat in Time" page that the original collectable pons are still within the files of the editor for the game? (edited)
divingkxt 3/20/2018 2:24 AM
Not yet no.
Scoots 3/20/2018 2:30 AM
wow i butchered that lol Rewrote it so it's more readable.
2:31 AM
But ah..Alrighty. Will go ahead and note that down. (edited)
punk7890 3/20/2018 8:00 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/976065786610556928
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a fairly large debug menu in Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits (PS2) https://t.co/Rve9BYK1ud You can select any map to warp to, including test maps, set various flags, listen to bgm/sfx/voices, edit map lighting, set debug options and...
8:00 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/20/2018 9:28 AM
nice!
EdTheNerd 3/20/2018 9:31 AM
Any known examples of PSP games that utilize the foot-switch input on the PSP-TOOL
9:35 AM
Gonna try soldering up a connection to part of an old shitty non-analog set of driving pedals so I can check other games for its usage while looking at their use of the gpio on the front, etc
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/20/2018 9:40 AM
I found debug mode in Diorama Sensen Ijounashi. https://tcrf.net/Diorama_Sensen_Ijounashi
Diorama Sensen Ijounashi
punk7890 3/20/2018 6:37 PM
nice work
Deleted User 3/20/2018 7:30 PM
i suspicious so hard there'e a debug mode in the nes's quattro adventure given how all 4 games there are so heavily trial-and-error based, man i wish i knew the methods :c where should i start from? is there a tutorial to find these stuff? o_O (edited)
Deleted User 3/20/2018 7:44 PM
i mean, i know a bit of asm 6502 so i could pop in in a debugger to see stuff BUT is that the way everyone do? x_X
goob 3/20/2018 9:22 PM
9:22 PM
There's a bug to play as Kirby in the side mode where you can't play as Kirby and it shows placeholder text on the pause screen
9:29 PM
Translates to (Unestablished)
Color Printer 3/20/2018 9:36 PM
Guest Star Kirby*
9:36 PM
*not actually a guest
goob 3/20/2018 10:53 PM
he's not invited
10:53 PM
but he interrupted the party anyway
ƒluƒƒу 3/20/2018 11:37 PM
`(Featuring Kirby From The Kirby Series)`
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/20/2018 11:38 PM
Deleted User 3/21/2018 12:11 AM
lmao
goob 3/21/2018 12:42 AM
https://twitter.com/reserved_kirby/status/976297444362264576
Reserved (@reserved_kirby)
[Guest Star Kirby, Star Allies Spoilers] Here's all the changes I could find when playing as Kirby in EX mode. Didn't record it or anything, so I'll just start off by saying that the level order follows the default preset one so extra areas l...
Revo 3/21/2018 1:30 AM
the people researching oot hacking
1:30 AM
whats your discord? i have very interesting info
1:32 AM
i promise it is very much worth your time
pepper 3/21/2018 2:18 AM
did you find the triforce
Incineroar 3/21/2018 2:20 AM
maybe
2:20 AM
unless ganondorf got there first
VeeBot 3/21/2018 2:53 AM
So I think I found the least interesting test video file in history.
2:54 AM
In You Don't Know Jack: 5th Dementia, there's a file called Test.mov that is just one frame of a guy standing behind a podium, who says "t-" before the video cuts off. (edited)
2:57 AM
Riveting.
leilei 3/21/2018 5:05 AM
indeed a jellyvision thing to do
Deleted User 3/21/2018 10:16 AM
his frame of fame
Revenant 3/21/2018 10:17 AM
16 milliseconds of fame
goob 3/21/2018 1:45 PM
1:45 PM
found out today it's still possible to make the Background01 map in TF2 actually function as the main menu background again (edited)
Jacob 3/21/2018 1:57 PM
What is the biggest article on TCRF?
1:59 PM
@Revenant
Revenant 3/21/2018 2:02 PM
https://tcrf.net/Special:LongPages
Special:LongPages
Jacob 3/21/2018 2:44 PM
Thanks
Hiccup 3/21/2018 2:46 PM
Though some might add to be larger than the largest one there if you add up all the subpages.
Deleted User 3/21/2018 6:57 PM
Hmm I have a question that I can't seem to find(or didn't look hard enough, sorry) so I'll ask it here. If, let's say I found unused content that has a gory image, is there a page that can warn browsers that this article contains gore or horror images or can I just put a disclaimer about it in the introduction page?
leilei 3/21/2018 7:00 PM
there's a nsfw template for that
7:01 PM
though the only application for gory i recall that being used for are the exploded nipples in splatterhouse 2010
Deleted User 3/21/2018 7:01 PM
Ah.. thanks
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/21/2018 7:02 PM
and then we have this https://tcrf.net/Template:Nsfl/en
En
Deleted User 3/21/2018 7:03 PM
Thank you very much!~
leilei 3/21/2018 7:05 PM
https://tcrf.net/Help:Contents/Editing_Help/Tagging_Articles#NSFW
Tagging Articles
punk7890 3/21/2018 7:55 PM
Nsfl lol
7:57 PM
I found some unused hentai CG in this one PS2 game a year ago that would probably suit that NSFL tag, though I don't even want to go back and find those images.
GerbilSoft 3/21/2018 7:58 PM
did someone say nsfl?
7:58 PM
7:58 PM
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Deleted User 3/21/2018 8:03 PM
Haha, nightmare for days
Jacob 3/21/2018 8:51 PM
@GerbilSoft
8:51 PM
GerbilSoft 3/21/2018 8:52 PM
blame @Revenant for buying it
8:52 PM
:V
Jacob 3/21/2018 8:52 PM
I like Service Discs and Debug stuff alot
8:52 PM
that's my favorite part of TCRF
8:53 PM
QoTD: What's your favorite type of in-game content that TCRF lists:?
8:53 PM
Would someone piin that
8:53 PM
pin*
Revenant 3/21/2018 8:53 PM
no, blame "safestuff1" for selling 3 of them and counting
🍦vaniemarshie 3/21/2018 8:53 PM
GerbilSoft 3/21/2018 8:53 PM
:V
Jacob 3/21/2018 8:53 PM
:<
Revenant 3/21/2018 8:54 PM
the power of my stand, 「ＰＡＣ－ＭＡＮ ＦＥＶＥＲ」
🍦vaniemarshie 3/21/2018 8:55 PM
「ＺＡ　ＫＹＵＲＩ　"Ｔｈｅ　Ｃｕｃｕｍｂｅｒ"」 (edited)
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old acc! inactive 3/21/2018 9:28 PM
from the ultimate nes remix page
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divingkxt 3/21/2018 9:33 PM
I deleted the empty sections and put them in the to-do.
old acc! inactive 3/21/2018 9:34 PM
rip metoroid
divingkxt 3/22/2018 12:13 AM
How many people here hack DOS games?
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Deleted User 3/22/2018 12:17 AM
Not me, please teach, pls.
divingkxt 3/22/2018 12:20 AM
For one, x86 assembly is almost always a must.
12:21 AM
Especially important is using a debugger. OllyDbg works fine with DOSBox from what little I've seen.
12:21 AM
There are also loads of debuggers, freeware, shareware, or commercial.
12:22 AM
Sometime these require the use of a secondary monitor, which is supported in a custom build of DOSBox.
12:22 AM
You can do ramdumps of programs running if the program compresses data and you need to decompress it.
12:22 AM
The Adventures of Maddog Williams is one such example.
12:25 AM
TiledGGD helps interpret data visually.
divingkxt 3/22/2018 12:37 AM
You can alter how the data is displayed.
12:38 AM
There are many ways data is displayed for DOS games, but four major ones prevail. (edited)
12:38 AM
Monochrome, CGA (4 colors), EGA (16 colors), and VGA (up to 256 colors)
12:42 AM
You can also dump DOSBox's memory with Task Manager by right-clicking on it and doing a dump of the running process.
12:47 AM
There may also be SVGA, usually in the later titles (1994-1999). And that can support up to 16-bit color.
12:47 AM
Maybe 32-bit, but that's really uncommon.
leilei 3/22/2018 1:21 AM
dosbox has its own debugger as well
1:22 AM
and building non-release pcem builds can produce memory dumps (including the emulated cards' memory where applicable)
1:24 AM
adn svga wasn't a standard until vesa came around. until that point, every company had their own implementation of those modes (edited)
1:25 AM
and depending on the game's age ymmv
1:25 AM
in my experience however the et4000w32p emulation in pcem can catch some of the more exotic svga modes
1:26 AM
i tried to emulate Eggs Playing Chicken on that once.
1:26 AM
1:26 AM
which used 640x240x15
cuba200611 3/22/2018 1:38 AM
@divingkxt Maddog Williams, eh? I saw somebody stream it a while ago.
leilei 3/22/2018 1:38 AM
i ripped a game's samples by using dosbox's gus emulation once
divingkxt 3/22/2018 1:41 AM
Oh, and The Game Room is still up.
1:41 AM
They have an actual website and everything, but it's infected.
1:41 AM
So yeah, don't go there.
punk7890 3/22/2018 2:13 AM
@divingkxt How would I name this for TCRF https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/921038-sega-ages-2500-series-vol-12-puyo-puyo-tsuu-perfect-set/images/155029 ? Would it be the full title, or just Puyo Puyo Tsuu Perfect Set?
Sega Ages 2500 Series Vol. 12: Puyo Puyo Tsuu Perfect Set Box Sho...
box scan for PlayStation 2 on GameFAQs.
divingkxt 3/22/2018 2:13 AM
Full title.
punk7890 3/22/2018 2:13 AM
Thanks
Neko May 3/22/2018 3:01 AM
"The Game Room" why does that sound so familiar
3:01 AM
Didn't they make shovelware arcade/coin redemption games?
Deleted User 3/22/2018 4:06 AM
What happens if your Windows Error Handler has stopped working? Another Error!
2
4:08 AM
Guess you can say, Windows Can't be handling errors anymore.
punk7890 3/22/2018 4:28 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/976737184064548864
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a well hidden cheat in Puyo Puyo Tsuu Perfect Set (PS2) https://t.co/4CLaoFabnA This enables two options, one is a sprite viewer, and the other is a event viewer. They are both labeled as debug options internally. It's unclear if these w...
4:28 AM
/dev/urandom 3/22/2018 4:31 AM
heheh, calling the event viewer "manzai test"
punk7890 3/22/2018 4:35 AM
that's basically the events in this game in a nutshell, heh
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/22/2018 4:38 AM
nice!
Deleted User 3/22/2018 2:02 PM
Founded some strings containing the Network for Caesar IV (Which was closed somewhere in 2010) Maybe It'll be possible for me to revive this hole Servers
MrRichard999 3/22/2018 3:30 PM
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Tonci Braculj
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Zephiles 3/22/2018 4:30 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT who adds stuff to the TTYD page? Theres an unused sound effect to add
4:32 PM
Basically, theres an alarm that would play during an escape sequence during Chapter 7. Theres a function in the game called countDownSaveReStart that would play this audio if the sequence is currently in or past the chapter 7 point. The escape sequence is unused, so the sound effect is also unused
4:32 PM
this is the sound effect in question
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/22/2018 4:39 PM
y not just add it yourself
Zephiles 3/22/2018 4:42 PM
idk where i would put it
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/22/2018 4:42 PM
maybe rename the unused music section to unused audio and put it there?
4:43 PM
idk
Hiccup 3/22/2018 4:47 PM
In my opinion an "Unused Event" section should be made, as there is code for this even as well as sfx.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/22/2018 4:47 PM
how much of it is left though
Zephiles 3/22/2018 4:49 PM
not likely very much
4:49 PM
its mainly how this function is set up
4:50 PM
could take a look at the scripts from the REL files
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/22/2018 4:52 PM
i figured when the place turns red after you complete 7 that was essentially an escape sequence but now that i think back, i dont think there was anything different aside from that
Zephiles 3/22/2018 4:53 PM
the address used to check if the alarm should play is the same one used to check if the ticking during chapter 2 should be playing, so the function determines which of these 2 to play based on the game's sequence position
4:53 PM
so its highly likely that the escape timer would be used during this
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/22/2018 4:54 PM
maybe they figured it was pointless to have a an escape sequence there when its just a straight path to the teleporter
Zephiles 3/22/2018 4:54 PM
likely
4:55 PM
at any rate, the sound effect can easily be heard ingame by getting a save in chapter 2 that currently has the ticking, change the sequence to 352 or greater, and then save and reload the file
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/22/2018 4:56 PM
nice
cuba200611 3/22/2018 7:39 PM
@Neko Ed#2096 The Game Room - that company had Kyle Hodgetts, IIRC...
Neko May 3/22/2018 7:40 PM
Ah, yeah, that's right
7:40 PM
The guy who wrote all those weirdass games
cuba200611 3/22/2018 7:41 PM
Yeah, he was an infamous guy...
Neko May 3/22/2018 7:41 PM
Quite so.
cuba200611 3/22/2018 7:42 PM
He also did some Daytona USA hacks.
Neko May 3/22/2018 7:42 PM
I mean, kudos for doing homebrew on arcade hardware, that takes balls
7:43 PM
But, well, it all could have used a bit more quality
cuba200611 3/22/2018 7:44 PM
He's done stuff on Double Dragon hardware, Neo Geo, and some other stuff...
7:44 PM
But yeah, not known for quality.
Neko May 3/22/2018 7:45 PM
Yeah, and plenty of weirdo hardware from sketchy outfits like The Gane Room
7:45 PM
They had, as I like to call it, "qUaliti"
cuba200611 3/22/2018 7:46 PM
Jank, that's what it is.
Neko May 3/22/2018 7:46 PM
qUaliti Ass insurance
cuba200611 3/22/2018 7:47 PM
But again, I've seen stuff on clones of boards you usually don't expect to be cloned - such as Side Arms hardware, which was used by a Korean dev called Philko.
Neko May 3/22/2018 7:47 PM
The Koreans did all sorts of crazy crap
cuba200611 3/22/2018 7:48 PM
Another Korean dev called Afega used NMK hardware.
Neko May 3/22/2018 7:48 PM
With varying levels of qUaliti
cuba200611 3/22/2018 7:54 PM
But yeah, Korean jank...
7:54 PM
There's also European jank.
7:55 PM
Prime example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbRQMFHQuVU
World of Longplays
Arcade Longplay [364] Mug Smashers
Neko May 3/22/2018 7:59 PM
Let's not forget the crazy Chinese stuff, either.
leilei 3/22/2018 7:59 PM
don't forget russian jank
cuba200611 3/22/2018 7:59 PM
Yeah, I recall seeing a Soviet arcade game.
8:00 PM
Yeah, crazy Chinese bootlegs.
leilei 3/22/2018 8:00 PM
a classic russian jank is Vangers
cuba200611 3/22/2018 8:00 PM
This is also crazy, although a legit game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTbXaomjwO0
Paul Herrera
Alien Challenge (Arcade)
Neko May 3/22/2018 8:00 PM
IGS is pretty infamous too
8:01 PM
The PGM was just a NeoGeo ripoff
cuba200611 3/22/2018 8:01 PM
I do like the elephant logo - too bad they only used it in one other game.
8:03 PM
Although this is going to #games territory...
leilei 3/22/2018 8:03 PM
and for american jank, just simply check the unlicensed stuff and the shareware scene
8:03 PM
or steam :V
8:04 PM
though a lot of that steam jank that do get undeserved attention is from russia
leilei 3/22/2018 8:13 PM
and maybe arguably midway/acclaim (edited)
goat 3/22/2018 10:24 PM
blegh, my method to pick at bloodborne won't work
10:25 PM
the tools i use on dark souls stuff don't support bnd4 yet and picking at game memory is a chore, and dumping the game memory fully would be like an 8gb transer
goat 3/22/2018 10:44 PM
i'm an idiot. if anyone wants to pick around in bloodborne files and knows the game well, there's a dump here: https://github.com/Openborne/data
Ziella 3/23/2018 1:11 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411868399971598338/426608177136795648/2018_03_23_15_08_24.png Finally managed to access the early version of the Old Building in DR2.
Scottie 3/23/2018 1:13 AM
oh woah, that's really interesting, i've never seen in-engine access to cut/early versions of DR areas, seen someone try and pull stuff up in a 3D modeler but that's really neat
1:14 AM
^ Danganronpa Wiki admin
Ziella 3/23/2018 1:16 AM
Yeah, It's been kind of a pain with it crashing all the time, but finally managed to pull it off with all the collision working just fine.
1:16 AM
Oddly though, there are characters positions that are out of bounds.
Scottie 3/23/2018 1:16 AM
LOL
goat 3/23/2018 1:16 AM
Did they do a fakeout demo like with DR1?
Scottie 3/23/2018 1:17 AM
No, DR2 never got one
goat 3/23/2018 1:17 AM
that demo gimmick ruled
Scottie 3/23/2018 1:18 AM
There's a bunch of early/dummy rooms in the DR1 assets with crappy MS paint art but i've never seen them in-engine, only the flat textures, but they're pretty funny
1:18 AM
http://danganronpa.wikia.com/wiki/User:Scottier/Scrapped_Content#Kiyotaka_Ishimaru.27s_Body_Discovery
Scrapped Content
Unused content is content that was unreleased, altered, or otherwise unincluded in the final published version of a game. This content can be found in early promotional material, art books...
1:18 AM
Ziella 3/23/2018 1:18 AM
Scottie 3/23/2018 1:19 AM
reception area i presume
Ziella 3/23/2018 1:20 AM
The entrance to the old building.
1:20 AM
where they hold the party. (edited)
Scottie 3/23/2018 1:20 AM
i meant a reception area to that building, it's like a welcome desk
Ziella 3/23/2018 1:21 AM
Ah, then yeah.
1:21 AM
Also, unused island map thingy, though it isn't set up correctly so you can't navigate it like it's designed to.
goat 3/23/2018 1:41 AM
i am continually amazed at how much effort goes into tcrf articles
1:42 AM
i have played Alone With You on Vita for like... three hours, and I don't remember any of the characters in the article
divingkxt 3/23/2018 2:15 AM
You kind of have to put a lot of effort.
2:15 AM
Because there are indeed loads of little pieces in a game that can be overlooked.
2:15 AM
And it's why several articles mention the files and/or offsets of the data.
2:18 AM
Also, users can make shit up and we have to figure out if it's even real.
divingkxt 3/23/2018 2:25 AM
There's also image quality to be concerned about, since we want stuff like sprites and audio as it was in the game's data.
2:29 AM
There are also loads of little quirks that can go unnoticed for decades, even after disassembling a game.
Scottie 3/23/2018 2:30 AM
Woo, got my page posted, still some things to add, but mostly wanted to get the weird DRV3 early version CG out there in the wild https://tcrf.net/Proto:Danganronpa_V3:_Killing_Harmony_(Windows)#Class_Trial_Start_Splash_CG
Proto:Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony (Windows)
2:30 AM
2:30 AM
hahaha
punk7890 3/23/2018 2:32 AM
Speaking of Danganronpa, I checked the PSP version for a debug menu and it doesn't work anymore. I forgot to remove that "todo" (edited)
2:32 AM
text to draw menu + sub functions were removed
goat 3/23/2018 2:34 AM
i have some things about Lisa that aren't on the tcrf page but my sources are dubious and the information is disturbing
2:37 AM
https://twitter.com/COMETandCROW/status/821783198854213632 this is the one thing I have that ISN'T horribly depressing, and the puppy Brad was going to give to Buddy is the actual dog that Austin Jay had at some point, and Cheese Legs makes an actual game appearance as the dog that chased Terry Hintz up a tree
2:39 AM
he hasn't tweeted this year but it was fun to be able to pick at a game and be able to just ask the developer what was up with stuff
punk7890 3/23/2018 3:30 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/977085019272331264
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a decent sized debug menu in Magical Tetris Challenge (N64) https://t.co/cl6dGtPtPM Can toggle various settings and listen to music + sfx. There is also a few unused screens, one being a legal warning screen and the other being a simple ...
3:30 AM
goat 3/23/2018 3:33 AM
that is the most neogeo debug menu i've seen
karmic 3/23/2018 3:34 AM
NeoGeo 64
/dev/urandom 3/23/2018 3:35 AM
actually looks more like smth out of a cps-1 or cps-2 arcade game
3:35 AM
like, well, all the different versions of street fighter 2
goat 3/23/2018 3:36 AM
http://micro-64.com/database/aleck64.shtml i learned about a thing today, hooray
Micro-64
A Nintendo 64 Resource for Reviews, Articles, Database Lists and more! The ultimate fansite for the Nintendo 64.
Neko May 3/23/2018 3:38 AM
It looks like CPS because it is
3:38 AM
The game was developed by Capcom and is an arcade port
3:39 AM
Remember that the Neo Geo service menu uses much larger characters. ;3
goat 3/23/2018 3:39 AM
..... they wasted a big opportunity, the n64 controller and the xbox duke were the only two controllers with the same 2x3 layout as the cps2 stick
3:40 AM
i might have learned to play fighting games on a duke <_<
Neko May 3/23/2018 3:41 AM
First controller I used regularly was an NES controller
3:42 AM
The Duke was a good controller, though. Better than the S that replaced it. (edited)
leilei 3/23/2018 3:42 AM
interact3dfx hammerhead was 2x3 but driver support for it sucked in 2k/xp so by the time cps2 emulation matured it was useless
Neko May 3/23/2018 3:43 AM
The Duke was heavily based on the Dreamcast controller.
3:45 AM
I wonder if anyone still does VMU homebrew. I've got a few sitting around collecting dust.
3:46 AM
I remember walking into a GameStop in the mid-2000s and finding three NIB VMUs for $8 each
3:47 AM
Which I wasn't going to pass up. Got a controller, too.
3:48 AM
I should move my Dreamcast up to Canada with me. Need to find my GameShark cart, though.
punk7890 3/23/2018 3:54 AM
My N64 gameshark died after not too many uses. I heard they are prone to dying though.
3:55 AM
They also messed up cart saves a lot
Neko May 3/23/2018 3:56 AM
Yeah, the N64 GameShark had a lot of problems.
goat 3/23/2018 3:59 AM
there's a new duke
3:59 AM
https://www.gamestop.com/xbox-one/accessories/hyperkin-duke-for-xbox-one-wired-controller-only-at-gamestop/158810
Hyperkin DUKE for Xbox One - Wired Controller - Only at GameStop
Hyperkin has recreated the original 2001 Xbox controller aka "The Duke" as an officially Xbox-licensed controller, compatible with the Xbox One family of devices and Windows 10 PCs. The Duke features a home button with an animated Xbox logo displ...
Neko May 3/23/2018 4:04 AM
Hyperkin, aren't they the ones who ripped off the emulators to make their crappy retro consoles?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/23/2018 4:08 AM
retron five did because they like contracted someone else to get emus for them or something
4:09 AM
their others are on a chip clone consoles with a HD upscaler which looks like shit obviously
Neko May 3/23/2018 4:10 AM
Ah, okay.
4:11 AM
4:3 originally, 4:3 now. No exceptions.
4:12 AM
Unless you've recompiled everything for 16:9.
4:12 AM
But that makes it a port, not emulation.
Hell Inspector 3/23/2018 9:52 AM
Hello!
Dezent 3/23/2018 9:59 AM
goat 3/23/2018 12:00 PM
if anyone wants to pick at the bloodborne executable and has x86-64 experience, i am carrying a copy precariously and am easily startled
12:00 PM
i don't know what protocol is here for files like that
irondude 3/23/2018 12:18 PM
@GerbilSoft
GerbilSoft 3/23/2018 12:22 PM
hi
12:23 PM
currently fixing a large MSVC project that has `/Zc:forScope-` set
irondude 3/23/2018 1:12 PM
ill take whats gerbilsoft been up to for 200, daily double
Hell Inspector 3/23/2018 1:57 PM
Anyone know the Wallace and Gromit Curse of the were rabbit game for ps2 and xbox?
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CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/23/2018 4:44 PM
w e n s l e y d a l e
Deleted User 3/23/2018 5:18 PM
i'm going to start writing up on some more things on the in the groove article
Deleted User 3/23/2018 5:39 PM
I found a Piranha Plant behind that Mario Vs. Luigi Level.
Laenthor 3/23/2018 6:06 PM
nice
Deleted User 3/23/2018 6:15 PM
I also submitted that to my Gallery and the NSMB article.
Revenant 3/23/2018 6:55 PM
https://twitter.com/appleIIcracks/status/960083021205422080
Apple ][ Crackscreen (@appleIIcracks)
https://t.co/w86agxOwRv
z20kdc 3/23/2018 6:59 PM
eh, it would only be really fun if "Brad Rosen" was also complaining about piracy (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/23/2018 7:26 PM
michael rosen wrote these games
LarryLemmy 3/23/2018 7:37 PM
@Hell Inspector No, but I used to play this all the time in my youth. It was... unusually difficult. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V357_N_qk9I
zabrustenebrio
Wallace & Gromit Fun Pack
Hell Inspector 3/23/2018 7:51 PM
Well the reason I brought it up was because I found files in the ps2 data that reference gamecube and Windows pc
punk7890 3/23/2018 8:12 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/977337298109870080
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found an unused stage select screen in Castlevania 64. https://t.co/3vlRS31shg Interestingly, this was removed in Castlevania Legacy.
8:13 PM
Halfbit 3/23/2018 8:16 PM
yo dudes
Nex 3/23/2018 8:31 PM
yo
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/23/2018 8:31 PM
yo
punk7890 3/23/2018 8:31 PM
yo
Hell Inspector 3/23/2018 8:39 PM
Neko May 3/23/2018 8:48 PM
oy
GerbilSoft 3/23/2018 9:04 PM
punk7890 3/23/2018 10:00 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/977364213734625280
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a well hidden cheat in NBA Courtside 2: Featuring Kobe Bryan (N64) https://t.co/mVXyAAZIHB Needs controller 2, and 3 inputs to enable. Inputs are read on the first 1-2 seconds of booting the game. It has no known effect on anything.
10:00 PM
And that's it for today.
Zeether 3/23/2018 10:07 PM
someone found some interesting stuff in Virtua Fighter 2 PC
10:08 PM
"Too bad you're too shitty to release anything but the 0day games unlockers. You perish TNT, just like all the nazis (The Nazi Team? That explains a lot!). Cheers!" in the hex for VF2.exe
divingkxt 3/23/2018 10:27 PM
warez group TNT
10:28 PM
Yep, they are real.
10:29 PM
And TNT is short for The Nova Team.
Zeether 3/23/2018 10:30 PM
I guess they had leaked some Sega stuff once
divingkxt 3/23/2018 10:38 PM
Any evidence they did is lost to time.
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 3/23/2018 11:00 PM
hey so i extracted mario odyssey's files
11:00 PM
found this pretty cool concept art
3
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/23/2018 11:01 PM
woh
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 3/23/2018 11:01 PM
there's one for every kingdom
11:01 PM
but i don't feel like extracting 10 szs files, then 10 bfres files, then 10 bntx files, then 10 astc files, then editing 10 tga files to not be upside down
Hell Inspector 3/24/2018 12:02 AM
Woah!
divingkxt 3/24/2018 12:05 AM
https://twitter.com/rom_txt/status/419241645864124416
ROM TXT (@rom_txt)
reasons like that! Excuse me... This game is "LOCA TEST" Version. I'm sorry... What!? BATSU What!? What!? BATSU

- #rvschool

(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 12:14 AM
So, the Detective Pikachi Special Demo that came out today contains what seems to be an uncompiled C header file and an XML file with very similar contents, inside the sound data...
12:15 AM
Although the header file doesn't actually have any structure, so it's more of a definition file.
divingkxt 3/24/2018 12:16 AM
That's slightly disappointing.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 12:17 AM
Actually, the XML file seems to have a bunch of file format info possibly?
12:17 AM
Can I just post the file here? Or should I upload to Pastebin or something?
divingkxt 3/24/2018 12:18 AM
Pastebin
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 12:21 AM
https://pastebin.com/wxR4by3Y
[C] Detective Pikachu Special Demo "bakery.h" - Pastebin.com
12:21 AM
https://pastebin.com/ibc3nB7k
[XML] Detective Pikachu Special Demo "bakery.xml" - Pastebin.com
12:24 AM
The word "bakery" seems to show up in a few other file names, as well. Don't know what significance it has though.
divingkxt 3/24/2018 12:25 AM
bakery.h is indeed a huge listing of sounds. Not uncommon to find stuff like this inside of DS games.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 12:26 AM
Oh hey, found a bunch of files which seem to be mount point listings for performing various tasks
12:26 AM
divingkxt 3/24/2018 12:27 AM
Now that is something.
12:28 AM
Those are for forcing particular build settings.
12:28 AM
So, debug has a bunch of debugging functions enabled for the testers.
12:28 AM
develop is for the developer, debugsave is for getting around places without progressing through the game.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 12:28 AM
Also, I think "bakery" might be the codename for this game, one of the files has these insightful strings: (edited)
12:29 AM
`S "Root" "hio:/" S "Home" "c:/usr/ctr/bakery" S "Shortcut0" "c:/" S "Shortcut1" "c:/" S "Shortcut2" "c:/" S "Shortcut3" "c:/"`
12:31 AM
Those paths also seem kinda bizzare, the "c:" drive letter makes me think it's a Windows file path, but they use forward-slashes instead of Windows backslashes, and there's a top-level directory called "usr", which is a common thing on Linux systems
divingkxt 3/24/2018 12:35 AM
May very well be.
12:36 AM
Some strange codenames can be chosen intentionally for obfuscation purposes.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 12:37 AM
lol probably to stop the code from being leaked from an external person
12:37 AM
"bakery.ctr? Nah, that's boring, let's find a more interesting file to leak!"
12:37 AM
Or so I imagine
12:38 AM
OH!
divingkxt 3/24/2018 12:38 AM
You'd be surprised.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 12:39 AM
Excerpt: `Digital Media Professionals (R) Vertex Shader Linker ver 2.16 Copyright (C) Digital Media Professionals Inc. 2009-2010. All rights reserved. ======================================================================================== Loading objects order 1. ctro/shobj/cbox2d.obj`
divingkxt 3/24/2018 12:39 AM
http://www.dmprof.com/en/
Digital Media Professionals Inc.
DMP is a think tank with high expertise and constantly develops products with original ideas in the world of graphics.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 12:40 AM
Do a lot of 3DS games have shader descriptors/mapping files left in?
divingkxt 3/24/2018 12:40 AM
AFAIK, no.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 12:41 AM
Actually Idk if these are really that huge of a find, but they're certainly pretty interesting
12:41 AM
Has the symbol info for each shader, Main address, register info, and swizzle pattern data
Neko May 3/24/2018 2:47 AM
It could provide insight into the 3D chip.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 3:29 AM
That's kinda what I was thinking, or at least some insight into how official devs code for it.
3:29 AM
Think I'll probably just upload all the shader maps in an archive, there's too many for it to be convenient to use Pastebin individually
3:34 AM
Boy, it sure would be a million times more convenient if it wasn't incredibly illegal to just upload all of the files into a big Google Drive/MEGA folder to make it easy for people to analyze everything.
3:36 AM
Sometimes I wonder how much progress could be made in the field of reverse-engineering and documenting if we could just collaborate that easily
divingkxt 3/24/2018 3:36 AM
We could try to do it, but it would end up like that massive scanning project Google had going.
3:36 AM
blahblah Library of Alexandria burning into the ground blahblah
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 3:40 AM
lol yeah. I don't agree with a lot of the insane stuff companies try to pull by claiming copyright infringement, but in this case I really have to agree with them. Obviously since I have the tools to dump/decrypt 3DS games, I can do that privately and analyze as I please, but sharing more than a small amount of the binary content does feel bad to me, at least considering the demo's only been out for a day.
divingkxt 3/24/2018 3:40 AM
Well... the game has been out for much longer in Japan.
3:40 AM
They delayed it for so long partially because of voice acting.
3:41 AM
But also because of a movie being worked on.
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 3:41 AM
Really? Then why is the demo multi-language, with a large amount of the content in Japanese?
3:41 AM
It looked like this demo was an international release, all on the same date
3:42 AM
According to the eShop page, anyway
divingkxt 3/24/2018 3:42 AM
JP: February 3, 2016
3:42 AM
NA/EU: March 23, 2018
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 3/24/2018 3:42 AM
lol well there you go
Netscape Navigator 3/24/2018 5:29 AM
the japanese game was shorter
FrostedGeulleisia 3/24/2018 5:44 AM
I like how ORAS's unused trainers are just random classes with no trainer names and with just a single level 5 Zigzagoon
Stewie1.0 3/24/2018 10:54 AM
I found something interesting about a few of the Project Diva games
10:54 AM
For example, in Dreamy Theater Extend, according to it's save file, 255 songs can be added to the game
10:55 AM
Tho since the song list is hardcoded, they cant be added unless changing slot IDs in eboot or adding more manually
goat 3/24/2018 11:13 AM
god i have a way to tamper with bloodborne stuff now but it is high effort and requires a 4.55 ps4
Smoke 3/24/2018 11:14 AM
woop
1
goat 3/24/2018 11:15 AM
sanadsk and zullie were mainly just using save editors and i have access to params which are extremely well documented files
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 3/24/2018 11:16 AM
this is the texture for the lizolfos in twilight princess, the golden square in the lower left corner isn't used. I'm pretty sure it was for the spikes that they had in the beta version.
11:16 AM
goat 3/24/2018 11:18 AM
huhn. kin and beasts are listed as saints and demons in the files
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 3/24/2018 11:18 AM
isn't my find cool?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/24/2018 11:25 AM
@Smoke what AT game is that?
Smoke 3/24/2018 11:25 AM
https://tcrf.net/Adventure_Time_Game_Collection
Adventure Time Game Collection
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/24/2018 11:27 AM
i cant wait for pirates of the enchiridion to come out
11:27 AM
There's gonna be a lot of unused stuff
Smoke 3/24/2018 11:41 AM
Stewie1.0 3/24/2018 12:59 PM
Is this ok for Diva F 2nd's page?
12:59 PM
https://tcrf.net/Hatsune_Miku:_Project_DIVA_F_2nd#Song_Slot_Placeholders
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA F 2nd
divingkxt 3/24/2018 1:06 PM
Sure. (edited)
goat 3/24/2018 3:23 PM
There is another unused Umbasa quote in Bloodborne according to http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Yharnamites
Yharnamites
Yharnamites are characters in Bloodborne. Yharnamites are citizens who are native to Yharnam.
Deleted User 3/24/2018 3:41 PM
Take in mind guys that the Unagis are officially named "Maw Rays"
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/24/2018 3:43 PM
i misread that as "man rays"
3:44 PM
EEEEVVVIIIIILLLL
Revenant 3/24/2018 3:52 PM
when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie
3:52 PM
that's a maw ray
divingkxt 3/24/2018 3:52 PM
*that's amore
Revenant 3/24/2018 3:56 PM
that's the joke
Deleted User 3/24/2018 5:09 PM
@🔧 Admins you might want to upgrade to Recaptcha 2 otherwise people won't be able to make accounts soon
5:11 PM
Once the shutdown happens in a week, people won't be able to make new accounts
5:11 PM
Unless you upgrade to Recaptcha 2
LarryLemmy 3/24/2018 5:15 PM
You know when you put text in a box like this: https://tcrf.net/The_New_Tetris#Hidden_Rants Is there a way of wrapping the text so it doesn't go off the side of the page?
The New Tetris
Deleted User 3/24/2018 5:16 PM
@LarryLemmy idk it looks fine to me
LarryLemmy 3/24/2018 5:16 PM
Not on that page
divingkxt 3/24/2018 5:16 PM
@Deleted User We can make the account ourselves once it goes down.
LarryLemmy 3/24/2018 5:16 PM
In general
Deleted User 3/24/2018 5:16 PM
@divingkxt but still, why not upgrade to Recaptcha 2? It's not that hard, I've done it on my own site
divingkxt 3/24/2018 5:16 PM
But yeah, we really do need to get a Re:Captcha replacement up, but we're using MediaWiki 1.25, which is ancient.
Deleted User 3/24/2018 5:16 PM
Okay
5:17 PM
Is there some compatibility issue that's holding you guys back from upgrading to a new version of mediawiki? (edited)
divingkxt 3/24/2018 5:24 PM
Well, we're on an unsupported server at the moment.
5:24 PM
Also, only a handful of people have server access.
5:24 PM
@Xkeeper is the guy you want to PM.
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 3/24/2018 6:29 PM
so I was looking through mario odyssey's files
6:29 PM
and I came across a list of everything you can capture
6:29 PM
including unused/prototype/debug stuff
6:29 PM
like koopas, tornadoes, penguins, and more
6:30 PM
https://twitter.com/granimated/status/977664822241263616
GRAnimated (@granimated)
So apparently in Super Mario Odyssey's files, there's a list of capturable enemies, but that list actually has a lot of scrapped capturable enemies and objects, like koopa troopas and tornadoes! https://t.co/1BXnE7vgRw
6:30 PM
pastebin is down so i can't get the direct link to my pastebin for it
6:30 PM
so when it's back up just click the link in my tweet or whatever
LarryLemmy 3/24/2018 6:31 PM
Egads this is messy https://tcrf.net/Math_Blaster_Episode_I:_In_Search_of_Spot_(Windows,_Mac_OS_Classic)/Hidden_Text
Hidden Text
divingkxt 3/24/2018 6:32 PM
@LarryLemmy <pre style='white-space: pre-wrap; width:480px'>
6:32 PM
not just pre
6:32 PM
especially for those really big texts.
LarryLemmy 3/24/2018 6:32 PM
Thank you
6:37 PM
I'll probably go to bed before finishing it...
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 3/24/2018 6:40 PM
https://gist.github.com/GRAnimated/aebdf7f05865fdd63fe415d6d1dce3da
Capture Enemy List (Contains Unused/Debug Enemies) | Super Mario O...
Capture Enemy List (Contains Unused/Debug Enemies) | Super Mario Odyssey
6:40 PM
there we go
6:40 PM
rehosted the pastebin on github
Deleted User 3/24/2018 6:47 PM
irondude 3/24/2018 6:47 PM
6:47 PM
Neko May 3/24/2018 6:49 PM
I've talked to @Xkeeper about the Captcha thing, the problem is that she doesn't have the time to get the upgrades done.
6:50 PM
You should probably donate to help out. ;3
divingkxt 3/24/2018 6:51 PM
Problem is only Xkeeper and Zerojay can change anything server-wise.
6:52 PM
And programming a Captcha for MW 1.25 is possible, but who here knows how to code for that.
Neko May 3/24/2018 6:57 PM
I believe Xkeeper is currently on her way home from GDC
linguisticspaceship 3/24/2018 7:39 PM
any of y'all heard of super crate box
7:39 PM
cuz as far as i know theres not a whole lot of documentation about the game's development
7:39 PM
and theres a shitton of unused content that i found in the source code
divingkxt 3/24/2018 7:41 PM
First time I've heard of it
linguisticspaceship 3/24/2018 7:42 PM
its a free game on steam developed by vlambeer
7:42 PM
and they released the source code in a bundle or somethin'
7:42 PM
and theres unused weapons, gamemodes, graphics, and probably more
7:43 PM
i looked at it about 6 months ago and never really said anything about it
7:44 PM
ive rarely contributed to tcrf.net or any sort of wiki in general so im generally a bit poor at article writing but i think i can get one up and running
Deleted User 3/24/2018 8:25 PM
Oh god - I remember SCB from BEFORE it hit Steam
linguisticspaceship 3/24/2018 8:32 PM
oh damn really
Borman 3/24/2018 8:57 PM
Super Crate Box is great
linguisticspaceship 3/24/2018 9:06 PM
anyhoo theres a lot of stuff i remember finding, theres graphics for an unused "chainsaw" weapon, a weapon called the napalm launcher (im unsure if its in the final product or not seeing as its so finished), and lots of weird gamemode things
9:06 PM
theres some sort of multiplayer modes i think?
9:06 PM
stuff titled "JAPANESE" and such
9:06 PM
as well as challenge mode, which has different levels where you have to complete objectives in
9:07 PM
and even includes unused objects like some sort of explosive barrel
9:07 PM
also before the game's release i think they released beta builds of the game, which also include this so called challenge mode and possibly other things but i think a lot of them are lost
Glisp 3/24/2018 11:13 PM
@divingkxt you still need to get morrowind dude
divingkxt 3/24/2018 11:13 PM
Not when I'm penniless.
Glisp 3/24/2018 11:14 PM
How old are you anyway diving?
divingkxt 3/24/2018 11:14 PM
Over 18.
Glisp 3/24/2018 11:15 PM
Well that narrows it down lol
11:15 PM
but yeah, I'm surprised you don't at least have a part time job
11:15 PM
Though if you were on steam, I might buy the game for you
11:15 PM
I got the extra 20 bucks
11:17 PM
Actually, the steam version has....issues
11:17 PM
dunno if I can buy games for other people on gog or not
divingkxt 3/24/2018 11:17 PM
https://www.gog.com/game/the_elder_scrolls_iii_morrowind_goty_edition
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind GOTY Edition, The
When you buy this game, The Elder Scrolls: Arena and The Elder Scrolls Chapter II: Daggerfall will be added to your GOG.com account for free! The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Edition includes Morrowind plus all of the content fro...
11:19 PM
I have money, but not a lot.
11:19 PM
I am on Steam though.
Glisp 3/24/2018 11:22 PM
You can gift people on gog
11:22 PM
This makes things much easier.
leilei 3/25/2018 12:01 AM
probably also worth finding unpatched/notgoty'd in retail (edited)
12:02 AM
which is hard to say for a Bethesda product
cuba200611 3/25/2018 12:02 AM
Yeah, since they always have bugs on release.
12:03 AM
Daggerfall had one which made the game impossible to finish.
leilei 3/25/2018 12:03 AM
i get why they dont' bother with making console games much
12:03 AM
as in the wayne hockey waldo era
divingkxt 3/25/2018 12:05 AM
Daggerfall still has loads of bugs to be found.
12:05 AM
Believe it or not, there actually is a small page on TCRF.
12:05 AM
https://tcrf.net/Bugs:The_Elder_Scrolls_II:_Daggerfall
Bugs:The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
12:06 AM
and even https://tcrf.net/The_Elder_Scrolls_II:_Daggerfall/Revision_Differences
Revision Differences
leilei 3/25/2018 12:07 AM
also some of their titles have aggressive anti-debugger stuff
12:07 AM
terminator rampage being one of them
goat 3/25/2018 12:07 AM
Daggerfall has incredible patch notes
DevEd 3/25/2018 12:07 AM
quick question: would documenting bugged music tracks in a game boy game be TCRF-worthy?
12:07 AM
or any other platform for that matter
leilei 3/25/2018 12:07 AM
maybe thats why they can't debug their own games
cuba200611 3/25/2018 12:08 AM
Also that they lost the source code to Daggerfall a long time ago....
goat 3/25/2018 12:08 AM
you used to get Revered legal status if caught trying to bash doors in, Create Item could try to create items that were impossible and crashed the game, witches could give you a quest to crash, daedra paid you to summon them, skeletons moonwalked, nobody actually equipped items
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/25/2018 12:08 AM
@DevEd yes
divingkxt 3/25/2018 12:08 AM
Maybe the source code is on the CD, but in some dummy sector.
12:08 AM
Who knows.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/25/2018 12:08 AM
There's one bugged song in Pokemon Red that's documented
goat 3/25/2018 12:09 AM
there is just this massive number of things that they tried to do with procedural stuff in daggerfall that was rushed too hard
DevEd 3/25/2018 12:09 AM
animorphs has a couple of bugged tracks
divingkxt 3/25/2018 12:09 AM
@DevEd Context?
goat 3/25/2018 12:09 AM
a tcrf page for Morrowind broken functions might be good
leilei 3/25/2018 12:09 AM
the only company close to 96 era bethesda would be 96-97 era maxis
divingkxt 3/25/2018 12:09 AM
@goat That and a cavalcade of logistic, management, and business mistakes.
DevEd 3/25/2018 12:10 AM
the most notable is the first mission theme, the lead section gets transposed up an octave after the loop point
goat 3/25/2018 12:10 AM
i admire the ambition in daggerfall despite it not being very good
DevEd 3/25/2018 12:10 AM
which normally wouldn't be such a huge deal, but then it tries to do a note slide to a non-existent note and shit hits the fan
goat 3/25/2018 12:10 AM
I wish Morrowind wasn't the end of said ambition
leilei 3/25/2018 12:11 AM
there's that bravery to shove nudity in the game. and then a 'childgard' to turn it off
goat 3/25/2018 12:11 AM
but uh anyway if you run Morrowind's built in scripts as written, a lot breaks
12:11 AM
Dagoth Ur will end up with like negative a thousand health
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/25/2018 12:12 AM
i wonder if there's anyone out there who says Arena is the best elder scrolls game
cuba200611 3/25/2018 12:12 AM
-1000 HP? That's quite something.
leilei 3/25/2018 12:12 AM
battlespire is the best elder scrolls game
divingkxt 3/25/2018 12:12 AM
Blah, Arena.
goat 3/25/2018 12:12 AM
every major Ash vampire you kill takes significant max health from dagoth ur but due to a scripting error it doesn't run that function
divingkxt 3/25/2018 12:13 AM
A lot of the mythos in later Elder Scrolls games doesn't happen there.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/25/2018 12:13 AM
"Yeah It's really bad and broken to fuck Daggerfall is when the series was actually, you know, playable"

- dude from another server

goat 3/25/2018 12:13 AM
everyone has a desired jank level
leilei 3/25/2018 12:13 AM
only in battlespire you can be a nude dark elf finding randomly enchanted thongs
12:14 AM
over the lan
12:14 AM
what's so funny is that they start you off nude and yet give you equipment and armor in the inventory anyway
goat 3/25/2018 12:15 AM
cyrus is the only person i know of who has ever bluffed vivec down in the canon
12:16 AM
there is a book somewhere that probably was written when they were sucking the raw power out of kirkbride where he ends up with knowledge of how to probably do the pankratosword, a technique that slices atoms
12:17 AM
i think it is a key point that he is not sure if he can do it, but whatever was going on was not important enough for vivec to risk it. and vivec is a dude who lives in a meteor set to annihilate his city
12:18 AM
god i wish the games had ever really done justice to some of the old lore
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/25/2018 12:21 AM
basic summary of every elder scrolls game
leilei 3/25/2018 12:21 AM
that's more like might & magic but ok
divingkxt 3/25/2018 12:22 AM
Daggerfall is where Todd Howard started to dig his fingers into the Elder Scrolls franchise.
3
12:22 AM
Granted the game is largely "designed" by Julian LeFay, but it's still noticeable.
12:22 AM
It came out during a time where it seemed like every game was obliged to take up as much CD space as possible (and it's why many of the textures are uncompressed).
12:23 AM
And Daggerfall is no exception, having a number of FMVs included (especially for the main story).
12:25 AM
At least the cutscenes can be skipped.
12:26 AM
But Julian wanted Daggerfall to be more open-world than the final game turned out to be.
12:27 AM
Also, a lot of the mythos is established here, with a lot of it being influenced by early fans of the series.
12:27 AM
From back in the Usenet days.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/25/2018 12:29 AM
christ oblivion looks dated in terms of character models
leilei 3/25/2018 12:32 AM
i thought oblivions faces were bad and uncanny on release
12:32 AM
it took a few years for that to set in through all that hype it had
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/25/2018 12:34 AM
someone punched his face and it got all swolen
leilei 3/25/2018 12:35 AM
morrowind better bodies faces are nice at least
goat 3/25/2018 12:37 AM
my first bethesda game was morrowind xbox which is actually moddable
12:40 AM
you could cram better bodies, better heads, and some minor qol things and you'd only have to fix your save every twenty or so hours because if the save got too big from opened containers it would hardlock the xbox
cuba200611 3/25/2018 12:40 AM
Speaking of Might and Magic, here's an image from another server that I am at: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/xeen/images/d/d2/Char.png
Deleted User 3/25/2018 1:08 AM
Dear Nintendo fans, On January 30, 2019, we plan to close the Wii Shop Channel, which has been available on Wii systems since December 2006. We sincerely thank our loyal customers for their support. You can still add Wii Points until March 26, 2018, and purchase content on the Wii Shop Channel until January 30, 2019.
1:09 AM
hopefully everything there is on internet =o
MusashiAA 3/25/2018 1:09 AM
JP only content might not be
divingkxt 3/25/2018 1:10 AM
Because not everyone can speak Japanese and Japanese copyright laws can be very punishing.
Deleted User 3/25/2018 1:11 AM
Don't forget Korean stuff too
1:11 AM
Which is one of the main issues atm iirc
cuba200611 3/25/2018 1:11 AM
IIRC, Japanese copyright laws are even more unforgiving than those in the US.
punk7890 3/25/2018 1:12 AM
hi
Deleted User 3/25/2018 1:21 AM
how so? =o
1:23 AM
also hii, punk7890! x3
ƒluƒƒу 3/25/2018 1:25 AM
ever noticed how japanese fansites tend to be exceptionally skint on audiovisual content?
1:25 AM
whereas your average english fansite is absolutely laden with images and screenshots,
1:26 AM
japanese fansites almost universally avoid that, and when they do dabble in using assets from the original work, there aren't that many of them
1:26 AM
hell even the japanese wikipedia is an example of this
1:26 AM
basically, that's a pretty good indicator of the state of japanese copyright law
cuba200611 3/25/2018 1:26 AM
And emulation is pretty underground.
leilei 3/25/2018 1:35 AM
so like american fansites pre-dmca pretty much
1:36 AM
and maybe that kind of restrictions helps touhou become huge (edited)
Deleted User 3/25/2018 1:41 AM
retro japanese warez scene when
goat 3/25/2018 2:56 AM
there's a loooad of japanese stuff on archive.org
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:02 AM
Yes, but that's because of Japanese stuff being dumped outside of Japan.
goat 3/25/2018 3:03 AM
yeah i'm not saying anyone is wrong about anything
3:04 AM
i'm just saying like if you want to see retro japanese warez, that's would be of interest.
leilei 3/25/2018 3:12 AM
you'd have to rely on australians
3:12 AM
;D
3:12 AM
aussies that have enough patience to bid them yahoo japan auctions, and middlemen iirc (edited)
3:13 AM
that's the only place where i've still seen that elusive japan ut release also
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:56 AM
Also, it's easier to ship stuff to Australia from Japan.
leilei 3/25/2018 4:01 AM
and not all pc98 stuff's dumped either
4:01 AM
and then there's the pc98 indie scene that's relatively more obscure
4:01 AM
(and much less hentai filled at that)
divingkxt 3/25/2018 4:10 AM
Of course, language barrier playing a huge factor. And learning languages just to find ROMs is one heck of a time sink.
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/25/2018 7:42 AM
There are many not dumped PC98 games. but There are not complete software list, so It is unknown how much remains.
goat 3/25/2018 10:48 AM
i should ask the 46 OkuMen translator I know if they found anything interesting during the translation of the first EVO
goob 3/25/2018 12:33 PM
Don't worry about anything on the WSC not being dumped :p
Hiccup 3/25/2018 1:24 PM
The majority of the titles are dumped (and will soon be available to download, if you know what I mean). Its (mainly?) delisted and korean titles that are missing. I would link to the thread that the archiving is happening on, but its a rom site.
goob 3/25/2018 1:25 PM
Aren't delisted things still on their servers?
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:08 PM
I believe so?
3:08 PM
But it really does matter if you can even remember what that server uses to store the games.
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:30 PM
https://tcrf.net/Category:Virtual_Boy_games 10 released games, plus some unreleased stuff, left to hack open. (edited)
Category:Virtual Boy games
3:30 PM
Though there are some things in the 15 games not found yet or not on the wiki yet.
Deleted User 3/25/2018 3:31 PM
Did someone say......morrowind?
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:31 PM
Well...9 released games left.
3:32 PM
So...about Morrowind.
Deleted User 3/25/2018 3:32 PM
Morrowind was a good game but had some broken mechanics (edited)
3:33 PM
Or unrealistic leveling
3:33 PM
ToddTest room was fun
3:34 PM
i wish there was a morrowind prototype
3:34 PM
believe it or not there was a demo of oblivion for psp
3:35 PM
However the full game was never released due to cancellation (edited)
3:36 PM
I tried the demo.......wasnt my best experience
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/25/2018 3:36 PM
smh nesters funky bowling doesnt have a page (edited)
Deleted User 3/25/2018 3:36 PM
new funky mode
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:39 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 A page was just made for that.
3:39 PM
https://tcrf.net/Nester%27s_Funky_Bowling
Nester%27s_Funky_Bowling
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/25/2018 3:41 PM
ooohh
Hallfiry 3/25/2018 3:45 PM
all we have for morrowind are a few pictures from an internal demo video, and some interface test screens and some promo screenshots are interesting aswell (edited)
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:47 PM
Daggerfall has more for it than Morrowind.
Hallfiry 3/25/2018 3:47 PM
https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=419511#p419511
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:47 PM
Heck, of all the Elder Scrolls games, it probably has the most unused crap I've seen. And there's more in the demos too.
Hallfiry 3/25/2018 3:48 PM
yea, I documented all the daggerfall stuff and released the october demo
3:48 PM
and the ces video
3:48 PM
oh the unused. yes, daggerfall has a lot
3:49 PM
http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/1994.htm http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/1995.htm http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/1996.htm http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/nuke.htm http://kultcds.com/Upload/Daggerfall/concept.htm
Nex 3/25/2018 3:49 PM
the "demo" of oblivion psp is a leaked prototype
3:49 PM
there are 5 builds out there
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:49 PM
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:The_Elder_Scrolls_II:_Daggerfall
Prerelease:The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
3:50 PM
This is missing the removed music tracks and much more, but it's not half-bad methinks.
Hallfiry 3/25/2018 3:51 PM
some info a friend of mine and I compiled years ago: http://kultcds.com/Upload/MakingofDaggerfall.pdf
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:53 PM
It's somewhat out of date though.
3:54 PM
The German translation turns out to have been done at least partially by Julian LeFay himself and apparently they did a significant amount of work.
3:54 PM
However, it went MIA and LeFay never kept copies of his own stuff, which is why the source code went missing for Arena and Daggerfall.
Hallfiry 3/25/2018 3:56 PM
yea, we haven't updated it with info from the julian thread on reddit
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/25/2018 3:56 PM
i thought marios tennis had some 2 player mode code
3:56 PM
was it wrong somehow
Hallfiry 3/25/2018 3:56 PM
tbh he didn't really have much info at all, as he is very forgetful and mostly told us to ask other developers
divingkxt 3/25/2018 3:57 PM
Also, the design process was basically take a bunch of ideas and hope to implement them in any way.
3:57 PM
Not much of a formal design doc.
Hallfiry 3/25/2018 3:58 PM
right
3:58 PM
have you ever seen my arena making of? it's quite good and not much new info has come up since I released it
3:59 PM
http://arena.kultcds.com/
cuba200611 3/25/2018 4:01 PM
@goat The 46 Okumen guys are active at the PC-98 Discord server...
4:01 PM
You can ask questions there.
goat 3/25/2018 4:09 PM
I mean I could... ask the person I know who is in a place that I know
divingkxt 3/25/2018 6:43 PM
PlayStation Vita 31
6:43 PM
32X 30
6:44 PM
Source - https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Statistics
The Cutting Room Floor:Statistics
divingkxt 3/25/2018 6:58 PM
That's pretty sad.
divingkxt 3/25/2018 7:30 PM
So...for the people in the chat at this moment...
7:30 PM
https://tcrf.net/Cosmic_Carnage
Cosmic Carnage
7:30 PM
Can you access this screen in the final game? http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/32X/ccp7.png
leilei 3/25/2018 7:31 PM
is that the sega channel/hotline guy (edited)
divingkxt 3/25/2018 7:31 PM
Not quite. This one is less angular.
7:31 PM
Also, it's probably RLE-compressed.
7:31 PM
I say so because it's rendered using the 32X's VDP rather than the Genesis's.
leilei 3/25/2018 7:32 PM
cosmic carnage could have a load of regional differences on the page
7:32 PM
since there's sprites for both regions in the same rom
7:33 PM
everyone looks different etc
divingkxt 3/25/2018 7:33 PM
And, as noted, you can play the Japanese version with a US or European cart with a cheat.
7:35 PM
https://segaretro.org/Cosmic_Carnage
Cosmic Carnage
7:36 PM
Also, I find it hilarious one of the characters is named Wishbone.
leilei 3/25/2018 7:43 PM
when it's sega fighters and names you can't beat Fighting Masters
7:44 PM
which also had regional changes for them
divingkxt 3/25/2018 7:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7fGKPBO4ig
TheGameroomBlitz
Fighter's Misery: Fighting Masters
7:45 PM
https://tcrf.net/Fighting_Masters Have a page, but no regional differences listed (ignoring publisher changes)
Fighting Masters
felineki 3/25/2018 9:52 PM
I need to add this thing to the Vampire Savior page eventually. There's a yellow version, too. And they also exist in Pcoket Fighter. Never actually used, as far as I know.
leilei 3/25/2018 10:39 PM
only dirty beret knows
10:45 PM
i'd speculate it being hell dunk related
divingkxt 3/25/2018 10:45 PM
https://tcrf.net/Fighting_Masters#Regional_Differences
Fighting Masters
10:45 PM
Guess what I just added.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 10:45 PM
hahahah, DK
10:46 PM
I was talking abt how yr nick reminded me of Donk lol
10:46 PM
gg
leilei 3/25/2018 10:48 PM
i thought it was about being a fan of dorling kindersley's various media of animals being trapped in hyperbolic time chambers
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 10:48 PM
ive been using 'DK' to refer to him on IRC since I joined due to laziness
divingkxt 3/25/2018 10:49 PM
Also, my name can be easily abbreviated.
10:49 PM
People can just say DKTW.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 10:49 PM
was it common enough for you to add that as a notify lol
leilei 3/25/2018 10:50 PM
i feel they should've kept EYESIGHT for the cyclops
divingkxt 3/25/2018 10:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=410&v=3HZo36uEPzI
Retro Pals
Death Crimson (Sega Saturn Spooktacular 2/2)
10:52 PM
Are there games I won't touch no matter what? Here's one.
leilei 3/25/2018 10:53 PM
maybe almost everything made in genesis3d
10:53 PM
which i won't mention the names of
10:53 PM
WELL except for two. GSector and Catechumen (edited)
10:53 PM
the rest of the known genesis3d games are hate media that are all NSFL (edited)
10:54 PM
which i feel is done to smear from the name of the engine than anything else, religiously motivated etc (edited)
divingkxt 3/25/2018 10:54 PM
Also lol http://www.genesis3d.com/developers.php?mode=display
10:55 PM
There's no devs listed.
Glisp 3/25/2018 10:55 PM
@divingkxt you try to play Morrowind yet? I mean I know you've been busy, just curious
divingkxt 3/25/2018 10:56 PM
But there are two dev enviros based on Genesis3D and remember one of them from when I downloaded a tech demo haphazardly as a kid, http://www.realityfactory.info/cms/
Home
Reality Factory is a free suite of game development tools for building 3D games.
10:56 PM
Nope, no Morrowind yet.
Glisp 3/25/2018 10:56 PM
Awww
10:56 PM
lol
leilei 3/25/2018 10:56 PM
of all the genesis3d games i've seen, catechumen's the only one that represents a complete game
divingkxt 3/25/2018 10:56 PM
and here's the other, with screenshots that give the impression it was made for the PS2. http://www.jet3d.com/
Jet3D.com
Jet3D.com
leilei 3/25/2018 10:56 PM
gsector was a single level "demo" that had years of "work" which seemed to be only promotional mateiral for the ingava site
divingkxt 3/25/2018 10:57 PM
Or my shit Pentium 4 PC.
leilei 3/25/2018 10:57 PM
the dec 99 and dec 00 versions are BARELY different
10:57 PM
heck it started out as an "open source game" in 99, then about faced on that mid development and became super restricted. and died.
10:58 PM
it was a bit of an asset flip anyway. q3 sounds etc
divingkxt 3/25/2018 10:59 PM
" then about faced on that" meaning...
leilei 3/25/2018 10:59 PM
they changed their mind
divingkxt 3/25/2018 11:00 PM
I imagine it's because not many internet dwelling people knew how to compile games back then. (edited)
leilei 3/25/2018 11:02 PM
genesis3d's license was open with a restriction that it must display its splash animation always
11:02 PM
iirc
11:02 PM
which of cours,e wasn't good for their brand when hate games were made with it
11:02 PM
much like unity3d's issue these days
11:07 PM
the engine itself wasn't bad, it's just incompetently used
11:07 PM
i mean it was like the closest open thing to UnrealEngine
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 11:08 PM
DK: yeah, I was talking abt Ion Maiden other night in IRC
leilei 3/25/2018 11:08 PM
'fire' animations, semi-working map physics (rickety bridges), depth-testing flares, dynamic lightmaps with shadows, mirrors, bots (edited)
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 11:08 PM
they used Build because "Retro" lol
leilei 3/25/2018 11:08 PM
nah i wouldn't say that
11:09 PM
they used build because the team was experienced with build
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 11:09 PM
an interview said "we wanted it to be like a lost game that never came out during the 90's"
11:09 PM
been playing it, its not bad
leilei 3/25/2018 11:11 PM
using an old engine because "retro" alone would bring a disasterous result
11:12 PM
all what matters is the effort put into it with a good game produced from it
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 11:12 PM
eduke32 rather
leilei 3/25/2018 11:15 PM
most don't excite me anyway
11:17 PM
especially the ones hyped by dave oshry
11:18 PM
no amount of name dropping references will tell me what to think what it is (edited)
EdTheNerd 3/25/2018 11:22 PM
So with the Wii shop ending in like, minutes, any games that are yet to be dumped?
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 11:23 PM
damn, thats today?
divingkxt 3/25/2018 11:23 PM
Mostly Korean and Taiwanese stuff.
EdTheNerd 3/25/2018 11:25 PM
Giving it one last browse
11:25 PM
Godspeed you slow as shit shop
leilei 3/25/2018 11:26 PM
there has to be at least one rich person in a panic spending all their points right about now (edited)
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 11:26 PM
is the tune dumped?
11:26 PM
best part abt that shop
EdTheNerd 3/25/2018 11:27 PM
Hmm, the announcement says this is the last time to add points
11:28 PM
But it closes Jan 30 2019
divingkxt 3/25/2018 11:32 PM
It's like they're holding off.
EdTheNerd 3/25/2018 11:38 PM
11:38 PM
That should cover whatever I give a shit about
11:38 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 3/25/2018 11:40 PM
dont forget Rondo of Blood lol
Glisp 3/26/2018 12:20 AM
Phew
12:21 AM
Well that was frustrating
12:21 AM
I got most of the stuff I wanted
12:21 AM
Most of the other stuff I wanted is available outside of the Wii's virtual console
12:21 AM
be it on Wii U VC or in compiliation games (eg sega games)
12:22 AM
I've got 600 points left and I'm not sure what to get
12:22 AM
I was looking for a decent RPG to spend the points on but I dunno (edited)
12:26 AM
Decided to spend most of my points on all the Metal Slug Titles, as well as Splatterhouse and Rondo of Blood
leilei 3/26/2018 1:26 AM
it could have been amazing if ea ported trespasser to wiiware
1:27 AM
using the wiimote for the one arm
Laenthor 3/26/2018 1:47 AM
I hope someone archived all of these because once they shutdown the servers they'll be gone forever.
Neko May 3/26/2018 1:56 AM
Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People
Incineroar 3/26/2018 2:12 AM
i should probably re-purchase some of my Virtual Console games from my Wii on my Wii U. Can't do a system transfer because I hacked the living shit out of my Wii
2:13 AM
hm
2:13 AM
looks like I may not be able to unless I do so right now
2:13 AM
eh
2:13 AM
i can hack the vwii and just copy over the data I guess
2:13 AM
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Deleted User 3/26/2018 3:28 AM
What's the best way to mine for data in games?
goat 3/26/2018 3:31 AM
that depends on platform and engine
Deleted User 3/26/2018 3:38 AM
@goat I mean like in general.
goat 3/26/2018 3:39 AM
and in general, you're going to want to see if people have already made tools for what you're working on
3:40 AM
cpk files, for example, are used all over the place and if you want to find lots of stuff in fairly easy to access formats you can use one of the multiple extraction tools for it
3:41 AM
windows actually has a fairly handy tool if you just want to find strings
Deleted User 3/26/2018 3:42 AM
What's that?
3:43 AM
@goat
goat 3/26/2018 3:44 AM
if you ping me again i'm done talking, don't do that
Deleted User 3/26/2018 3:45 AM
Salty
goat 3/26/2018 3:47 AM
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/strings
Neko May 3/26/2018 3:47 AM
That's actually a port of a Unix tool called "strings"
3:48 AM
Credit where credit is due.
goat 3/26/2018 3:49 AM
shouldn't it have source available, then? or is it completely free use
Neko May 3/26/2018 3:52 AM
It probably should, but I'm sure Microsoft will have their lawyers argue something.
3:53 AM
Or if they based it off the one from BSD, they don't have to.
3:53 AM
Which is how Windows got it's TCP/IP stack
3:54 AM
But then almost literally everyone ripped that off.
Hiccup 3/26/2018 4:46 AM
The only undumped (which means no valid ticket has been preserved (ticket contains decryption key for content)) unlisted game is the Korean Yoshi's Cookie (four-letter code: FCYT, title id: 0001000146435954) (edited)
4:47 AM
@goob at least one person has been mirroring the CDN, so it doesn't matter if things get delisted from the perspective of preserving the encrypted content, as long they are willing to share the data. (edited)
4:48 AM
however, you can only buy, and therefore get the ticket, if it is listed on the shop.
4:48 AM
so you'd have to find a wii that had downloaded yoshi's cookie from the korean shop before it was removed. because tickets are kept on the NAND, as well as the decrypted content. (edited)
DMTM 3/26/2018 7:59 AM
Hello
7:59 AM
Saw a video witch let the player different camera angles in super mario bros 3.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/26/2018 8:01 AM
8:01 AM
ohhh do you mean the 3DNES emu
Δndrew P. 3/26/2018 8:03 AM
yall get wii points while i get WADs
Dezent 3/26/2018 8:04 AM
oh dear, Pop Team Epic
punk7890 3/26/2018 8:12 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/978242937841532929
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a simple debug display in Mizuiro (PS2) https://t.co/Fle8SdUYVA Shows CPU usage, total frames & total time passed since boot.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/26/2018 8:12 AM
is she legal
punk7890 3/26/2018 8:13 AM
Kinda odd seeing anything debug related in a simple visual novel
8:13 AM
legal for what?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/26/2018 8:13 AM
im trying to comprehend the context
punk7890 3/26/2018 8:16 AM
same
LarryLemmy 3/26/2018 8:42 AM
Does anyone else have an obsessive fear that they've accidentally included used stuff in an article even after extensive checking?
MysticSageJosh 3/26/2018 8:43 AM
We all make Steaks Mistakes
z20kdc 3/26/2018 8:50 AM
not helping: games that go really really meta
8:50 AM
in 5 years there'll be a game where you actually edit the real source code to find the secrets (I mean, just look at the frenzy over DDLC. People are going to want to replicate that.), (edited)
8:51 AM
and at that point the lines are gonna be really really blurred
Deleted User 3/26/2018 11:03 AM
Does anyone know any good local co-op PS4 games?
11:03 AM
Or any for that matter.
Netscape Navigator 3/26/2018 11:50 AM
Diablo 3 does that apparently
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 12:03 PM
does anyone here have Skyrim? (steam version)
4
12:06 PM
i need xtexconv.exe from the skyrim creation kit
12:07 PM
the sources for xtexconv are on github, but they require the Xbox XDK to compile them
12:07 PM
https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 12:15 PM
alternatively, if you have a recent XDK, i just need xg.h, xg.lib, and xg.dll :V
z20kdc 3/26/2018 12:20 PM
of those three, the most problematic is probably xg.dll
12:20 PM
since the other two might be synthesizable
Hiccup 3/26/2018 12:20 PM
a friend on steam has skyrim. I've asked them if they could look for the file in their steamapps. but are your sure skyrim creation kit has xtexconv.exe? https://steamdb.info/depot/202481/
CreationKit Main · DepotID: 202481
Steam Database record for depot CreationKit Main (DepotID or AppID: 202481)
12:22 PM
^ thats the depot for Skyrim Creation Kit
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 12:25 PM
https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/5027350-xtexconvexe-a-good-thing-texture-converting-a-noobs-perspective/ claims it does
xtexconv.exe a good thing Texture converting a noobs perspective -...
xtexconv.exe a good thing Texture converting a noobs perspective - posted in Skyrim Special Edition Technical Support: As most all that have the all new Skyrim on pc have been doing, trying to set up the game with your old mods. Been doing the ro...
12:25 PM
https://afkmods.iguanadons.net/index.php?/topic/4762-batch-file-for-xb1-textures/
Batch File for XB1 Textures
Could use a bit of help. It's been way too long since I needed to cook up a batch file for something like this. I need to run the Elric texture conversion t...
12:25 PM
`"C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Tools\Elric\xtexconv.exe" -nologo -xbox -o "%s" "%s"`
12:26 PM
https://steamdb.info/app/202480/depots/
Skyrim Creation Kit · AppID: 202480
Steam Database record for Skyrim Creation Kit
Hiccup 3/26/2018 12:28 PM
well, I'll wait and see if he finds it in SteamApps. (edited)
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 12:29 PM
ok
/dev/urandom 3/26/2018 1:27 PM
has anyone documented the differences between the actual games and their snes classic versions?
1:29 PM
i can definitely say that sf2 turbo is missing the air force logo on guile's stage.
Netscape Navigator 3/26/2018 1:45 PM
yeah so it seems thats a sudden thing Capcom is doing
1:45 PM
they replaced it in Ultra SF2, the SF 30th Aniversary Collection and the remake of his stage in SF 5
/dev/urandom 3/26/2018 1:49 PM
yup
Netscape Navigator 3/26/2018 1:50 PM
good job mike tyson and the us air force never filed a joint lawsuit against capcom
1:50 PM
and the band cheap trick
/dev/urandom 3/26/2018 1:50 PM
or the golden nugget casino, for that matter.
Netscape Navigator 3/26/2018 1:59 PM
surprised they went so far as to hack the snes classic rom, but if they're editing it in the aniversary collection that makes sense
goat 3/26/2018 3:29 PM
Bloodborne version difference: playing on a PS4 pro is actually better for speedrunning due to how its igt works
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 4:34 PM
1
4:34 PM
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 4:59 PM
Think I've seen this name before
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:04 PM
Me? Yours is familiar too (edited)
5:04 PM
Oh wait did I buy various proto shit from you on ebay lol
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:09 PM
5:09 PM
How are the builds treating ya?
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:09 PM
5:09 PM
Good
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:09 PM
5:10 PM
Good to hear
5:10 PM
Want more?
5:10 PM
Jk lol
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:10 PM
Eventually™
5:10 PM
Lol
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:10 PM
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:10 PM
I forget, were you the one I got that superbikes 2000 game from?
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:10 PM
Yeppers
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:11 PM
Ah that has been a staple of gamenights lol
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:11 PM
Italian string
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:11 PM
Yessss
5:11 PM
I set it up at swap meets and challenge people to finish one lap lol
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:12 PM
My God that ain't possible
5:12 PM
Hands down glitchiest build I've had
5:13 PM
Mean, ive had alphas and first playable builds less glitchy than that
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:14 PM
5:15 PM
https://twitter.com/EdTheNerd/status/938615509158973446?s=19
Ed (@EdTheNerd)
My hobby: Bringing horibly broken betas of games to swap meets and subjecting unsuspecting players to them. Their challenge: Finish one lap.
5:16 PM
Some shots at the local store on a swap night lol
Revenant 3/26/2018 5:17 PM
love to eat a nice big plate of italian string
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:17 PM
I just got the retail version of it this week
5:17 PM
I wonder how bad it is still
5:18 PM
I really wanna make it some case art, like,
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:18 PM
That would be dope, just remember to blur the main imagine
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:18 PM
"THE ITALIAN STRING" and just have the bike graphic garbled to hell
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:19 PM
5:19 PM
Iirc you bought that in hours of me listing
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/26/2018 5:19 PM
i'm surprised on how stable the Ratchet and Clank prototypes are
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:19 PM
Oh man, I saw those screenshots and just hit buy
5:19 PM
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:20 PM
5:20 PM
Didn't you get other things from me as well? Drawing a blank atm
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:20 PM
Uh, I think some psp stuff yeah? (edited)
5:21 PM
Trying to remember
5:21 PM
I'd have to check ebay
5:21 PM
You don't have any JRPG stuff do ya?
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:24 PM
Not that I recall, I'll keep you posted though (edited)
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:24 PM
Incineroar 3/26/2018 5:29 PM
oh, selling things?
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:32 PM
Yeppers
5:32 PM
Btw,
Incineroar 3/26/2018 5:41 PM
nice
5:42 PM
been wanting to buy protos but step 1 don't be in college
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/26/2018 5:42 PM
step 2 don't be npzman
2
Incineroar 3/26/2018 5:43 PM
lol
5:44 PM
do you happen to have a list of what you have for sale? I'd probably look at it from time to time to entertain myself to what I can't afford currently lmao
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 5:46 PM
1
5:46 PM
This should be a good image to start with for its cover lol (edited)
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:49 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/pauls-protos-for-sale-trade.21912/
5:49 PM
This was my list on og, plan to post in other places considering I'm done with eBay
Incineroar 3/26/2018 5:52 PM
yeah, ebay is kinda bad for these kinds of sales
5:52 PM
oh rip
5:52 PM
i have to be logged in to even see that
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 5:53 PM
Oh darn
5:53 PM
I'll spam some pics
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:19 PM
www.imgur.com/a/8L968
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:26 PM
That controller would be neat to have but would probably be useless without the accompanying hardware to use it on
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:27 PM
6:27 PM
6:27 PM
You'd need the thang in the middle
Deleted User 3/26/2018 6:27 PM
give my that crystal kit you shit
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:27 PM
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:28 PM
I'd probably try and get some Wii U devkits, those I can purchase directly from NoA if I wanted one
6:28 PM
Or 3DS
6:28 PM
But they want a lot of money for them
6:29 PM
And would probably be wiped
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:30 PM
It def would
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:30 PM
Not sure how it'd be done, perhaps a disk recovery utility could be used but that's a long shot
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:31 PM
Best bet is to wait in the future for this stuff to circulate
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:32 PM
Thing is, ordering one guarantees it works if I wanted to screw around with it and write code in GHS Multi
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:32 PM
How much on that rvt-h
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:32 PM
Not for sale brosky
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:32 PM
Kek
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:32 PM
That whole pic is my keepers
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:32 PM
Lord knows I don't need a 6th
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:33 PM
6:33 PM
This one's special
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:33 PM
What's on it?
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:33 PM
Anything good on there?
6:33 PM
Also check for any "deleted" stuff with gerbilsoft's tool (edited)
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:34 PM
Read the asset sticker and just guess
6:34 PM
And yeah, that's a very important step
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:34 PM
Can't view it in Discord well. Let's download it...
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:34 PM
owo
6:34 PM
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:34 PM
Rockstar Games
6:34 PM
Damn son
6:35 PM
Didn't you put that on eBay at one point? Or was that a different one by someone else?
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:35 PM
Na, wasn't me
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:35 PM
I heard one was put up but the listing was pulled
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:35 PM
I do recall another kit though. I had a nitro that was pulled at one point
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:36 PM
Ooh Nitro
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/26/2018 6:36 PM
discord nitro
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:36 PM
I have the installers for a TWL kit that doesn't need internet access
6:36 PM
So I could write for the DS using CodeWarrior
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:36 PM
Damn, I had a twl at one point...
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:37 PM
stares at twl-debugger in corner
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:37 PM
If not a CTR or Cafe kit, I'd love a NTR kit
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:37 PM
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:37 PM
TWL would be cool too
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:37 PM
@Paulweeze71
6:37 PM
The deed is done
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:37 PM
Ahahaha
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:38 PM
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:38 PM
Rated I for Italian by the ITSR
6:39 PM
Woooo my bus almost drifted into a ditch
6:39 PM
Roads are a bloody mess
6:40 PM
I'd like to at least find GBA protos because I have the means to dump them
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:42 PM
Me likey Ed!
6:42 PM
Too bad I've sold mine @Incineroar
6:42 PM
Here was a unreleased game I leaked btw staring Mel my boi
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:42 PM
I really gotta dump all my crap
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:43 PM
I'd like to also get a GB/C cart reader and writer
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:43 PM
Nothing's stopping me, I have the tools
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:43 PM
Then I can back up my pokemon saves before the batteries die
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:43 PM
I'm just lazy as all hell
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:43 PM
Replace the batteries, and reflash the saves
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:43 PM
Gotta dump that Golden Sun before something happens
6:43 PM
Bitrot/stepped on/whatever
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:44 PM
Yeah
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:44 PM
Dump everything you can
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:44 PM
Don't want that to happen before you get around it lol
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:44 PM
It's got so much debug stuff, but sadly isn't in english
6:44 PM
Rip
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:44 PM
Japanese?
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:44 PM
It's in Italian string
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:44 PM
Na, German maybe?
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:44 PM
Nice meme
6:44 PM
Ah
EdTheNerd 3/26/2018 6:44 PM
Supposedly escaped a translation office
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:45 PM
What's it with non-Japanese prototypes being German lol
6:45 PM
Case: Pokemon Ruby debugging rom
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 6:45 PM
Late but
6:45 PM
@Paulweeze71 what Ed said
6:46 PM
Still haven't gotten around to testing recryption on retail, but the prototypes from my RVT-H don't load in dolphin
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:46 PM
Ah noice, the man in the flesh
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 6:46 PM
(emulation doesn't even start)
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:46 PM
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 6:46 PM
https://github.com/GerbilSoft/rvthtool
GerbilSoft/rvthtool
rvthtool - RVT-H Tool
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:46 PM
I'd be down for trying R* prototypes
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 6:47 PM
Encrypted RVT-R prototypes installed on an RVT-H should work in dolphin
6:47 PM
rvthtool's list command will indicate the encryption status of all installed games
6:51 PM
>rockstar games sticker
6:52 PM
...I saw a R* RVT-H on eBay a few weeks ago
6:52 PM
It was pulled
6:52 PM
Don't tell me that's the same one :v
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:52 PM
I was mentioning that
6:52 PM
It isn't
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 6:52 PM
Ok
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:55 PM
Na, I never put that guy up on eBay. Ironically I just pulled all of my eBay listings recently
6:55 PM
I did have a nitro about a year ago that Nintendo requested eBay to pull
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:55 PM
Rip
6:56 PM
I would be down for helping dump protos as well for sure, but I'd have only a super limited subset of games I'd be capable of ripping
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 6:56 PM
inb4 the RVT-H has this http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Rockstar_Games_presents_Table_Tennis
Rockstar Games presents Table Tennis
Rockstar Games presents Table Tennis is a game for the Wii released in 2007 (NA) and 2009 (JP). It is one of the few Rockstar games to be rated E, since most Rockstar games are rated M (mature) or...
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:57 PM
A game by R* that's not at least Rated M? Blasphemy!
Paulweeze71 3/26/2018 6:57 PM
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:58 PM
R* and kids games being one is a concept I cannot wrap my head around
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 6:58 PM
Howard Stern presents:
6:58 PM
Sesame Street
Incineroar 3/26/2018 6:58 PM
I'm too used to them producing rated M stuff
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 6:59 PM
It's kinda like that :v
leilei 3/26/2018 7:02 PM
R* started off with Earthworm Jim 3D after all
7:04 PM
and a content rating doesn't signify target audience
7:04 PM
when they made a table tennis game they weren't thinking of the 0 year old german baby market (edited)
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 7:04 PM
Kiddies think it does
7:04 PM
Playing an M-rated game makes you mature
leilei 3/26/2018 7:05 PM
the KA rating used to be stigmatized because of the "KIDS" part of it
7:05 PM
"ugh ka games are for kid's mommy buy me the cool m game"
7:06 PM
this notably affected sales
7:06 PM
and has made a difference when changed to E for everyone in '98 (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:09 PM
was that the reason it was changed?
leilei 3/26/2018 7:09 PM
yes.
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:10 PM
huh
leilei 3/26/2018 7:10 PM
3, 6, 13, 17, 18 were the only age ranges the ESRB covered then (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:11 PM
there’s not too many ao games because there’s not really a point
7:11 PM
other than not being a huge market
leilei 3/26/2018 7:11 PM
uh
7:12 PM
there's always been a market for adult games
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:12 PM
who would want to play a pron game
leilei 3/26/2018 7:12 PM
many just don't bother paying for a esrb rating as they're not sold in mainstream retail, just mostly mail order (edited)
7:12 PM
horny men (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:12 PM
because the runors I’ve heard, ao games are rejected by most retailers (edited)
7:13 PM
that’s why I said that
leilei 3/26/2018 7:15 PM
AO also covers real gambling
7:16 PM
would be great if esrb kept to their word and just make all those lootbox games ao
7:16 PM
lol (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:16 PM
oh
7:17 PM
huh
7:17 PM
speaking of gambling, it’s unfortunate that game corners aren’t in pkmn anymore
leilei 3/26/2018 7:18 PM
yeah, simulated gambling would likely bring that to a T
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:18 PM
all games before were E
7:18 PM
hell, atari anthology has simulated gambling and that’s E
7:19 PM
unless the esrb started getting really sensitive
leilei 3/26/2018 7:19 PM
ever since hot coffee and oblivion's rerating, esrb's more thorough with rating now almost to the point rsac was
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:19 PM
i’m including pokemon platinum
7:19 PM
i spent hours in the game corner in that game
7:19 PM
sucks you can’t play the toulette wheel in oras
Incineroar 3/26/2018 7:20 PM
I have a Japanese copy of Heart Gold so I have the slots in Johto there
leilei 3/26/2018 7:20 PM
the space quest games are T now, 2 of them had simulated gambling. they used to be KA/E (with lots of radar dodging with the comical gore roger went through even) (edited)
Incineroar 3/26/2018 7:20 PM
The international versions scrapped it for Voltorb Flip
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:20 PM
oh (edited)
7:20 PM
pardon my french
7:20 PM
but that is really fucking stupid
7:21 PM
for both
7:22 PM
and people wonder why I like to import pokemon stuff (edited)
leilei 3/26/2018 7:24 PM
my favorite content descriptor is 'suggestive themes'
7:24 PM
which often translates to "SEXY PEOPLE"
7:24 PM
but in the more vague way
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:25 PM
they don’t want to put that on the box though because kids
7:25 PM
and “use of alcohol and drugs”
7:25 PM
like, isn’t that a normal thing?
Glisp 3/26/2018 7:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM6yxz-L3lw
happy_satan999
Dagoth Ur at McDonald's
leilei 3/26/2018 7:26 PM
because it could be possibly glorified
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:26 PM
huh
leilei 3/26/2018 7:26 PM
'wow i want to be mecree when i gro up i want to be cool smoke cowboy' (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:27 PM
you want dumb censorship
7:27 PM
ace combat 4 had all reference to guns cut out in cutscenes
7:28 PM
yet it’s a game
Glisp 3/26/2018 7:28 PM
"Give me food or I will kill you"
leilei 3/26/2018 7:28 PM
well it was just released post9/11
7:28 PM
understandable
Glisp 3/26/2018 7:28 PM
"I'm a god! How can you kill a god?"
Hallfiry 3/26/2018 7:29 PM
german law sees all nazi references in video games as suggestive
Glisp 3/26/2018 7:29 PM
actually, that's a myth
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:29 PM
it’s a game about military planes shooting other military planes and destroying their bases and you cut out guns in cutscenes?
Hallfiry 3/26/2018 7:29 PM
no it is not
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:30 PM
why don’t you just block the whole damn game from coming to america?
Hallfiry 3/26/2018 7:30 PM
recently a satire game was the reason for a law suit because it had one commbat animation resambling a swastika
Glisp 3/26/2018 7:30 PM
The real reason you don't see it in game in germany is because nobody's actually try
7:30 PM
Video games could arguably fall under the artistic clause of said law
Hallfiry 3/26/2018 7:30 PM
it was performed by a far right politician in the game (it's a street fighter 2 parody)
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:30 PM
i mean
7:30 PM
switch on the ps2 didn’t come to america
Glisp 3/26/2018 7:31 PM
It's just nobody's tried opposing it yet
Hallfiry 3/26/2018 7:31 PM
read what I wrote, ffs
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:31 PM
even after all the cutscenes had ben changed to reflect 9/11 and just be poop instead of monuments collapsing
Hallfiry 3/26/2018 7:31 PM
a game mocked politicians and a lawsuit was filed because a rightwing politician had a jump attack that looked like a swastika
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 7:31 PM
but that was because the original release in america was mostly hated by us critics
Hallfiry 3/26/2018 7:31 PM
that was only last year
7:32 PM
and it was clearly satire. still it provoked the state attorney's attention. it was not the mocked politician who sued
7:32 PM
so don't claim it's a myth. it is factual
7:33 PM
http://bundesfighter.de/
Bundesfighter 2 Turbo - Das Prügelspiel zum Wahlkampf
Zerstöre die politische Konkurrenz im Story-Mode oder fordere im Versus-Mode einen Freund heraus. Individuelle Spezial-Attacken und maßgeschneiderte Moves lassen Dich endlich dem politischen Gegner die Fresse polieren. Wahlkampf hat noch nie so...
7:33 PM
that's the game
7:34 PM
7:34 PM
this gif includes the move in question
7:38 PM
a long article on the topic, including examples of recalled games and exterminated magazine issues: https://vdvc.de/blog/2017/12/03/bundes-fighter-ii-turbo-von-funk-lka-ermittelt-wegen-hakenkreuz/
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„Bundes Fighter II Turbo“ von funk: LKA ermittelt wegen Hakenk...
„funk“ – das Content-Netzwerk von ARD und ZDF unter Federführung des SWR – hat ein an klassische Beat ’em up-Titel wie „Mortal Kombat“ und „Street Fighter“ angelehntes Videospiel mit dem Namen „Bundes Fighter II Turbo“ ins ...
leilei 3/26/2018 8:06 PM
nevermind the no swatiskas thing, i think germany's anti-brutality law or something is more interesting
8:06 PM
having to android/robot everyone
8:06 PM
otherwise it'll be under the counter
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:06 PM
wth
8:06 PM
okay
8:08 PM
europe has weird censorship laws for games
leilei 3/26/2018 8:08 PM
it's actual censorship when a government steps in
8:08 PM
ESRB is there so the US doesn't have to step in
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:08 PM
so
leilei 3/26/2018 8:08 PM
and those post9/11 game changes are all for the sake of sensibilities
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:08 PM
most Z rated games in japan (edited)
leilei 3/26/2018 8:09 PM
yes. gore can get a game Z'd
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:09 PM
yeah
8:09 PM
but I mean
8:09 PM
the japanese gov’t steps in for Z rated games afaik
8:09 PM
like until dawn
8:10 PM
or MK
leilei 3/26/2018 8:10 PM
even some japanese-developed games come out more gorey in the west
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:11 PM
that isn’t all too comon from what I remember
leilei 3/26/2018 8:11 PM
no more heroes anyone
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:11 PM
ahhhh
8:13 PM
what japane censors and what we censor is weird
8:13 PM
they’ll censor out gore
8:13 PM
but we won’t
leilei 3/26/2018 8:13 PM
and CERO sometimes does make content exceptions if it's a fighting game, a rating is put one lower. but of course with mortal kombat's close up gross ups it's impossible for that to happen
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:14 PM
we’ll censor out huge boobs, and they’ll indulge in that
Deleted User 3/26/2018 8:14 PM
A trend I notice is any western gore game is censored in Japan while any sexual Eastern game is censored outside Japan.
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:14 PM
they don’t mind mild gambling
8:14 PM
but we do
8:15 PM
then again, japan does have cultural differences, so there is that.
leilei 3/26/2018 8:15 PM
well..... GTAV in japan doesn't have the sex scenes and SR3/4's penetrator got turned into a pink stick
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:15 PM
i guess
Deleted User 3/26/2018 8:15 PM
Not every dev censors games (Praise XSeed) but there's no reason to alter content in under most countries rating systems.
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:15 PM
if it’s western, crack down harder in japan, and vice versa in america
8:16 PM
that’s how I interpret it
leilei 3/26/2018 8:16 PM
even pubic hair on a texture of a non-nude character can get the axewax in japan (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:16 PM
weird
Deleted User 3/26/2018 8:16 PM
It's just stupid, we aren't children.
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:16 PM
they aren’t either
8:16 PM
japan didn’t care until CERO was introduced afaik
8:17 PM
or the sega rating system
leilei 3/26/2018 8:17 PM
and ironically... japan's censorship really comes from the US military laws (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:17 PM
?
8:17 PM
What
Deleted User 3/26/2018 8:17 PM
Sister citys?
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:18 PM
so then... japan really doesn’t give a shit?
8:18 PM
it’s just our fault?
Deleted User 3/26/2018 8:18 PM
The radiation man
8:18 PM
We ruined them (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 3/26/2018 8:19 PM
huh
Deleted User 3/26/2018 8:19 PM
Holy shit, he said too much.
leilei 3/26/2018 8:32 PM
regarding the intro being suddenly 'fixed' topic, i've always hated when this change happened and kept since https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Super_Mario_Bros.&type=revision&diff=458298&oldid=440989 (edited)
Index.php?title=Super Mario Bros.&type=revision&diff=458298&oldid=...
Patapon Fanatic #3 3/26/2018 8:36 PM
https://twitter.com/sh0ckturtle/status/978429542611243008
shockturtle (@sh0ckturtle)
Patapon 1: some unused minigame music. (not complete) #patapon https://t.co/XGmPWV8m5C
ƒluƒƒу 3/26/2018 8:46 PM
`[11:32 AM] leilei: regarding the intro being suddenly 'fixed' topic, i've always hated when this change happened and kept since https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Super_Mario_Bros.&type=revision&diff=458298&oldid=440989(edited)`
8:46 PM
same
8:46 PM
that huge wave that that one guy did a while back drove me up the fuckin wall
8:46 PM
especially when they started doing it to fe games and made them promptly unreadable
8:50 PM
not that i'm much better
Deleted User 3/26/2018 9:12 PM
I think it's funny as shit.
9:13 PM
Game descriptions don't matter too much on TCRF as long as the article is true,
leilei 3/26/2018 9:20 PM
i see a young kid with new internet world enthusiasm getting wooshed by a subtle brilliant intro and thought the wiki needed enlightenment on what super mario bros is (edited)
Deleted User 3/26/2018 9:46 PM
dark mario cobain
9:46 PM
mt
MrRichard999 3/26/2018 9:57 PM
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leilei 3/26/2018 9:58 PM
disclaimer: it is a steam key
divingkxt 3/26/2018 10:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUwSOfQ1D3c
Technology Connections
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10:27 PM
I kind of would like to know how it would have worked if the discs were 15 cm.
10:27 PM
(starts at 10:52)
GerbilSoft 3/26/2018 11:23 PM
http://switchbrew.org/index.php?title=5.0.1
Index.php?title=5.0.1
MrRichard999 3/27/2018 3:24 AM
Fun youtuber channel for those who are into console games https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaEjAr9iat3eIWmgiRFNS1Q
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Laenthor 3/27/2018 9:09 AM
@divingkxt ps1 games as vinyls XD
Halfbit 3/27/2018 12:56 PM
Lol
Stewie1.0 3/27/2018 1:46 PM
I found some sound effects leftover from Project Diva Arcade in Dreamy Theater 1's files
alan 3/27/2018 1:50 PM
found an unused dummy sfx and a few region changes in we love katamari
Laenthor 3/27/2018 2:52 PM
I love how the devs took the time to give the random NPCs names in Harry Potter and the chamber of secrets all the way in the code, but they didn't go with it in the end (because having 3 instances of 1 character in 1 map would make naming them impossible)
2:52 PM
But in the code, it's possible to match names with appropriate student textures
2:52 PM
So Imma make a list of that
2:58 PM
And just when I thought I was done with unused dialog I still manage to find more in cutscenes
Laenthor 3/27/2018 3:06 PM
Oh jesus christ, in hp3 you can't play as anyone else but Harry in the castle. Every unique line used in that map has been voiced for Ron and Hermione aswell... Didn't realise they left out all of that too...
Incineroar 3/27/2018 3:54 PM
so much work and effort, all for nothing
Laenthor 3/27/2018 4:20 PM
I'm gonna have to check every single grunt in there too
4:22 PM
For example, Ron never rides Buckbeak, yet look at how much they described the grunts they never ended up using
4:23 PM
Most of these audio files aren't in the 'sounds' folder anymore, but I can quickly see which aren't used just by elimination
DMTM 3/27/2018 4:51 PM
Strange.
4:51 PM
Can't get the emulators to work on the Nintendo 3ds
🐮 3/27/2018 5:15 PM
I'll just go ahead and leave this right here https://twitter.com/LotsaNintendo/status/964861297245421568
blank (@LotsaNintendo)
@punk_7890 @OtherEhm Phantasy Star Portable 2. The original Japanese version had downloadable content that you could download from the official website and place on your Memory Stick. The downloadable content was cut from the English version, ...
GerbilSoft 3/27/2018 5:21 PM
Today's GBAtemp: Some guy claims he found a way to update games on Switch without doing a sysupdate; gets totally debunked by SciresM https://gbatemp.net/threads/discovered-a-method-for-updating-outdated-games.499787/page-8#post-7895318
Discovered a METHOD for UPDATING outdated Games
If he does not reply here is a link explaining the procsess:...
old acc! inactive 3/27/2018 5:24 PM
tiny soldering
punk7890 3/27/2018 7:51 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/978781402543022080
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a large debug menu in Orphen: Scion of Sorcery (PS2) https://t.co/JCqLJWlpW1 Has map select options, bgm/sfx/voice/movie play options and many more. You can select any monster to view as well which will send you to a test map with them i...
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7:51 PM
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/27/2018 7:51 PM
nice!
punk7890 3/27/2018 7:51 PM
thanks
7:52 PM
MONSTOR CHECK heh
Incineroar 3/27/2018 9:09 PM
nice find!
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/27/2018 10:24 PM
I found debug menu from arcana heart 2 PS2. https://tcrf.net/Suggoi!_Arcana_Heart_2_(PlayStation_2)
Suggoi! Arcana Heart 2 (PlayStation 2)
Glisp 3/27/2018 10:33 PM
@divingkxt have you tried playing Morrowind yet?
divingkxt 3/27/2018 10:34 PM
Still busy.
Glisp 3/27/2018 10:56 PM
Ah yeah
10:57 PM
I can imagine so since you're one of the biggest contributors to TCRF
punk7890 3/27/2018 11:03 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ Nice work! I guess there was another Ecole Software game I didn't see.
11:03 PM
Strange, I didn't see that game listed on GameFAQs
11:05 PM
Ah no wonder. They don't even has Ecole listed as a developer.
Paulweeze71 3/27/2018 11:06 PM
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/27/2018 11:07 PM
@punk7890 It listed on the ja wikipedia. https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BD%E3%83%95%E3%83%88%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A7%E3%82%A2
%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BD%E3%83%95%E3%83%88%E3...
punk7890 3/27/2018 11:08 PM
cool thanks
11:08 PM
GameFAQs isn't that reliable when it comes to listing multiple developers.
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/27/2018 11:09 PM
no problem
punk7890 3/27/2018 11:35 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/978837985796931584
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a small debug menu in F1 Pole Position 64 (N64) https://t.co/9Cr53kz3CX You can view various result screens and enter a model viewing option.
11:35 PM
One more for today.
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/27/2018 11:44 PM
nice!
11:44 PM
I found text from book "ゲーム職人 ゲーム文化を支えた37人の証言" Page 187 - バイオメタル (Biometal) Athena 1993 SNES JP Text: 敵キャラの種類に関しては、実はROMに半分眠っているものがあるんです。プログラマーが間にあわなくて（笑）、使ってないんです。 Translation: Half of all enemy characters slept in the ROM. Because Programmer couldn't work in time, so It is unused. (edited)
punk7890 3/27/2018 11:45 PM
haha nice find!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/27/2018 11:45 PM
@punk7890 now if only Insomniac Games wasn't required to remove the debug menu from the Ratchet and Clank games
punk7890 3/27/2018 11:46 PM
They were?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/27/2018 11:46 PM
It was part of their contract. They had to remove all debug code from the games.
punk7890 3/27/2018 11:46 PM
I guess that explains why RC1 only had it
11:47 PM
minus protos
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/27/2018 11:50 PM
The GC beta doesnt have a debug menu
leilei 3/28/2018 12:00 AM
i'm aware of the sfv costume dlc
12:01 AM
sadly no hsien-li, cammygan, zansquatch, felicimika (edited)
Luminar 3/28/2018 12:32 AM
And jak games have debug modes that you can activate with buttons
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divingkxt 3/28/2018 1:19 AM
Sly Cooper games have still yet to be looked into.
Luminar 3/28/2018 1:53 AM
I want to check its music since I know how to control mus files in jak games and it must be quite similar. But first I need to play them to be able to recognize unused music. Just too busy with jak stuff...
Deleted User 3/28/2018 6:24 AM
I need to look at Sly again, I recently acquired a tool that might be useful for those games.
punk7890 3/28/2018 8:22 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/978970390100783104
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a small CPU display graph in Charlie Blast's Territory (N64). https://t.co/wBRaj6HaKU It doesn't draw correctly anymore, however.
8:22 AM
Pretty basic but oh well
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/28/2018 9:11 AM
If anybody knows their Kirby's Adventure Wii/Return to Dream Land, I'd like to talk audio for that game. Specifically the infamous Magolor death screams. Somebody deleted them off of the game's wiki page, but I've looked into it and they definitely seem to be unused, not just "so quiet you can barely hear it and obscured by other sound effects".
9:12 AM
These 5 files are all related to Magolor dying. The 2 which spell out Danmatu in full and aren't abbreviated are the unused ones. M1Dm1 is used when Magolor dies in phase 1, M2Dm1 when his 2nd form goes down, and M4Dm1 when you beat Magolor soul
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/28/2018 9:13 AM
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/28/2018 9:13 AM
all I want to know is whether Magolor appears in any other modes where those sounds might play. Since they sure as heck don't during any of the battles
9:14 AM
it being deleted off the wiki page a few times leads me to believe either Magolor appears in other modes and those other scream sound files play, or the person who deleted it is mistaken and hasn't properly looked into it
Laenthor 3/28/2018 9:18 AM
They might've used them in the Kirby 25th anniversary wii game, but idk
LuigiBlood 3/28/2018 11:03 AM
might be used in the arena
Laenthor 3/28/2018 11:06 AM
I don't think so because it's just the same boss, isn't it?
11:08 AM
I don't know what these files sound like actually, but here's what he sounds like when he dies at phase 2: https://youtu.be/J5NKhKBnzf4?t=22m54s
Nintendo Unity
Kirby's Return to Dream Land - Arena Rush (All Boss Fights, No Damage)
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/28/2018 11:13 AM
Yeah I checked the arena and story fights to make sure they weren't just plopped somewhere else. The one Laenthor just posted was M2Dm1
Laenthor 3/28/2018 11:13 AM
What do the others sound like? Do you have a video or file to share with us?
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/28/2018 11:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4eL5ooeAQ this one (M2_Danmatu01)
Hoppy Jr.
Kirby's Return to Dream Land music - 104u2 Magolor Defeated(Unused...
11:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUoI4crWqQc and this one (M1_Danmatu01) are unused
Hoppy Jr.
Kirby's Return to Dream Land music - 104u1 Magolor Defeated(Unused...
Laenthor 3/28/2018 11:14 AM
Hmm, never heard these
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/28/2018 11:14 AM
They've been known about for a while, but based on what I've found, neither of them are used anywhere
Laenthor 3/28/2018 11:14 AM
Maybe they were linked with these other "mega powerup" unused tracks for the final boss
11:15 AM
Dunno, maybe variations of it were planned but just scrapped
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/28/2018 11:15 AM
it's strange, the Magolor death screams are actually grouped in with the rest of the music in "streams". Everything else seems to be packed into a brsar archive
Laenthor 3/28/2018 11:16 AM
Weird
Laenthor 3/28/2018 11:44 AM
I'm so glad they cut all of these lines from the game. Imagine every character in the game always reminding you of stuff every 10 seconds...
Incineroar 3/28/2018 11:47 AM
oh, hey @Lewys (NUTLORD)
11:47 AM
haven't seen that name on tcrf in a while
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/28/2018 11:49 AM
Honestly can't remember the last thing I did on TCRF tbh
11:49 AM
maybe the unused Time Mine texture in Melee, idk
Incineroar 3/28/2018 11:51 AM
i'm still slaving away on the Crash Bandicoot GBA games
11:51 AM
haven't done much due to school so
Laenthor 3/28/2018 11:53 AM
I know they wanted to put variations for a single line, but... Keep in mind they needed all 3 characters to have the same lines, so... yeah, this x3 would've been really annoying if they shouted these each time a chest opened...
11:53 AM
BEANS
goat 3/28/2018 11:55 AM
i posted a guide on reddit on how to tamper with bloodborne on ps4, should i post it in here
Incineroar 3/28/2018 11:56 AM
what if perhaps it was to be one person randomly saying something every so often?
11:57 AM
(idk what game that is and i'm missing context so i'm shooting in the dark here)
goat 3/28/2018 11:57 AM
seeing those lines reminds me of the RINGS lines in Sonic Boom
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/28/2018 12:00 PM
I added the code to display debug menu in US version Class of Heroes（剣と魔法と学園モノ。） https://tcrf.net/Class_of_Heroes
Class of Heroes
goat 3/28/2018 12:00 PM
how.... classy
Laenthor 3/28/2018 12:07 PM
It's from Harry Potter and the prisoner of askaban on PC
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:07 PM
some of the translations on the Class of Heroes page seem really wonky
Laenthor 3/28/2018 12:07 PM
The characters talk way too much and yet there was supposed to be even more dialog XD
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:07 PM
lol
12:07 PM
rip
Laenthor 3/28/2018 12:07 PM
Just way too much dialog and useless tutorials for its own good
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:08 PM
`ヴァルハラ - Walhalla` Shouldn't that be Valhalla?
12:09 PM
or is that the official localized name?
12:09 PM
(If there is one)
12:10 PM
hm
12:10 PM
looking further on this page
12:10 PM
it seems it was written by someone that doesn't have a full grasp on English yet
12:11 PM
ah
12:11 PM
the user page that'd explain it
12:12 PM
(It's not a problem, I imagine it can get fixed over time)
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/28/2018 12:12 PM
sorry, ヴァルハラ is my mistake.
Laenthor 3/28/2018 12:12 PM
Oh no...
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:12 PM
that's fine
12:12 PM
i know English and am slowly learning Japanese myself so
Laenthor 3/28/2018 12:12 PM
All of Hermione's grunts and shouts sound really...
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:13 PM
Laenthor 3/28/2018 12:13 PM
yeah that
12:13 PM
Thank god they didn't use most of them
12:13 PM
Like this one
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:14 PM
(That and I have a very base knowledge of French so)
Laenthor 3/28/2018 12:16 PM
I'm bilingual (french native and english second) with a basis of spanish
12:20 PM
Omg, all of these are unused and they sound really sexual. Had to lower the volume of my headphones to avoid some looks from the people around me. Might have to put a NSFW warning on the page if this keeps up XD
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:23 PM
ahaha
RacieB 3/28/2018 12:23 PM
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:23 PM
someone just sent me this
12:23 PM
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/owo/jolaggjkdhhgcdhcjjhfkkbllefoggob?hl=en
OWO
HEWWO????
12:23 PM
what kind of person makes this
12:24 PM
and the fact that 40,441 users have installed it
Paulweeze71 3/28/2018 12:24 PM
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:25 PM
he then subsequently sent me this
12:25 PM
Laenthor 3/28/2018 12:25 PM
This needs to stop
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:25 PM
12:26 PM
the description for that game at the top of its page should now just be lenny faces
Laenthor 3/28/2018 12:29 PM
yep
12:29 PM
Well the subpage to be precise
12:31 PM
Should I actually put some warning at the top of the subpage? This is quite something
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:35 PM
@Incineroar ヴァ is pronounced va in japanese
12:36 PM
ワ has it’s own character
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:37 PM
thought so
12:37 PM
fixes
12:38 PM
hm
12:38 PM
that's just one minor fix, the whole page would have to be fixed up
12:38 PM
i might hold off on that
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:39 PM
just trying to help
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:39 PM
va isn't one i'm familiar with, I rarely see it
12:39 PM
even ヴ is something I rarely see let alone use
12:40 PM
ah, that's "vu"
12:42 PM
i should eventually start working on learning stroke order
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:43 PM
i personally haven’t been working on stroke order, but I’m told my characters look good anyways
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/28/2018 12:44 PM
Thanks for fix text.
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:44 PM
ヴ is a very uncommonly used character, but it’s still used, even if textbooks don’t say much about it.
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:44 PM
yeah, i was reading on it
12:44 PM
apparently it's a recent addition for helping with foreign words
12:45 PM
i bookmarked the wikitionary page for katakana, which also has a link to hiragana
12:45 PM
those both will be very useful
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:46 PM
yes
12:46 PM
I still have yet to be mastering kanji
12:46 PM
only because trying to learn them all is a huge pain
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:47 PM
yeah, kanji is interesting for sure
12:47 PM
I don't have many opportunities to learn Japanese
12:47 PM
although
12:47 PM
I do have some games in Japanese
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:47 PM
i’d love to have mastered it already
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:47 PM
they might be some nice practice for reading it
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:47 PM
but if I really wanted something
12:47 PM
i’d like to be able to read japanese faster than I already do
12:48 PM
I feel like I’m a slow reader
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:48 PM
i can read French quite decently and understand things based on context of words I already know
12:48 PM
and be able to piece it together
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:48 PM
I think that might be my problem
12:48 PM
i only worked on the characters and pronounciations
12:48 PM
and not really the words (edited)
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:50 PM
perhaps playing Pocket Monsters Aka/Midori might help a bit
12:50 PM
I already know how to play them
12:50 PM
but being able to read them and understand what's going on will be nice
12:51 PM
since I already have a bit of context
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:51 PM
i was actually playing 緑 a couple summers ago
Nex 3/28/2018 12:51 PM
Δndrew P. 3/28/2018 12:51 PM
play Tomodachi Collection
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:52 PM
i then tried エメラルド, but since I knew how to play it front to back, I played it in fast forward
Δndrew P. 3/28/2018 12:52 PM
that game's perfect for learning Japanese cuz its a simulation and voices
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:53 PM
I also have ゼルダの伝説時のオカリナ but I don't have a N64 to play it on right now :(
12:53 PM
sadly it's a newer revision but
12:53 PM
i only paid $20 for it at a used game store here so
12:53 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:53 PM
I have the manga of that
12:54 PM
it’s pretty ok
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/28/2018 12:54 PM
I have J->E translated anime.
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:55 PM
and i have like 4 movies with japanese subtitles, but for reasons I don’t know, they are all on separate mpls playlists
12:55 PM
Yet the first playlist has every other language
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:56 PM
i did take the notches out of my SNES to a degree so I can also play ファイナルファンタジーV
12:56 PM
i'm getting close to the second world in the game but
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:56 PM
I’ve played X, X-2 and XII in japanese
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/28/2018 12:56 PM
wow FF5!
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:56 PM
but it’s a little hard to play the blitzball tournament
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:56 PM
yeah, blitzball would be interesting
12:57 PM
now if I can get 4 in Japanese or in English as 2, I'll have one of each of the SNES Final Fantasy games
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:58 PM
for my japanese games, the ones I can think of, i have AC04, NamCollection, IQ Remix, スイッチ, and another I can’t remember right now for PS2 games
12:59 PM
Besides the japanese FF games
Incineroar 3/28/2018 12:59 PM
I have the first two gens of Pokemon games (All work and save, too), FFV, Ocarina of Time, and Pocket Monsters Heart Gold
12:59 PM
not a huge list but
12:59 PM
lots there to play
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 12:59 PM
i have ナムコミュージアムアンコール, gran turismo 2, space invaders 2000, and arkanoid r2000
1:00 PM
I have Sonic CD in japanese because the soundtrack is better, and I just like importing games more
Incineroar 3/28/2018 1:01 PM
i'm looking forward to importing Switch games if there's one in Japan I want
1:01 PM
since it's (finally) region free
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:01 PM
i am getting a little tired of telling people the difference between the Nintendo Switch and https://tcrf.net/Panic!
Panic!
Incineroar 3/28/2018 1:02 PM
oh, I knew that wasn't the system you were referring to
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:03 PM
But the sonic cd 2011 "remake" had both soundtracks and is overall just better than the original
Δndrew P. 3/28/2018 1:06 PM
The only Japanese imports I have are Fantavision, Tomodachi Collection, Dokodemo Issyo, and Puyopuyo 7
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:06 PM
i remember talking to you about it @Laenthor
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:09 PM
Ah, maybe
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:09 PM
i was talking about how all the “negative” quirks in the original version were manipulatable and I was able to use them to my advantage
Paulweeze71 3/28/2018 1:10 PM
GB = User/manipulator
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:10 PM
XD
Paulweeze71 3/28/2018 1:11 PM
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:11 PM
If you haven't played any version, the 2011 remake is just better for everything. You can like the original out of nostalgia but that should be the only reason to like better than the remake.
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:11 PM
@Paulweeze71 yes because I’m now kevin flynn in tron
1:12 PM
yep
1:12 PM
it was you
Paulweeze71 3/28/2018 1:12 PM
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:12 PM
i don’t like it for nostalgia
1:12 PM
because I don’t have any for the game
1:12 PM
i’ve played the 2011 remake on mobile and console
1:12 PM
i’ve just had a better time with the mega cd version
1:13 PM
the remake just took out a lot of the weird quirks and buga I could manipulate or I just overall liked
1:13 PM
you want to make the original better while keeping it on thr MCD
1:13 PM
play sonic cd ++
1:14 PM
i’ve probably already mentioned it
1:14 PM
but it makes it better period
1:14 PM
it’s one of the reasons why I like the original more
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:14 PM
Liking a game more because of some bugs sounds weird
1:15 PM
You think the game is too hard?
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:15 PM
Yeah, it doesn’t fix the special stages, but those took a lot of skill
1:15 PM
no, I don’t
1:15 PM
except for Metallic Madness act II and stardust speedway
1:15 PM
in sonic gems collection
1:16 PM
the race with metal sonic is bullshit hard
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:16 PM
The special stages take skill yes, but the remake allows you to hit restart at any time if you're about to fail
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:16 PM
well what’s the point of getting better if you can just restart?
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:16 PM
I never a lot of trouble with cd, sonic 1 on the other hand... eww
1:17 PM
"well what’s the point of getting better if you can just restart?" Learning?
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:17 PM
I never had trouble with CD like other people might have
1:17 PM
sonic 3 and knuckles was also great for those trying to explore the level
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:17 PM
metallic madness act 2 with the only bottomless pit in the game XD
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:17 PM
I mean I guess so
1:17 PM
No, that’s act III
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:18 PM
oh right, still 3 acts
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:18 PM
But if you can just keep retrying, then getting 50 rings at the end of a stage just isn’t as satisfying anymore
1:18 PM
you see what I mean?
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:18 PM
Well it never was, it was just an annoyance. Glad they changed the system in future sonic games
1:19 PM
Sonic mania has mostly perfected the formula
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:19 PM
finding special rings for those annyoing as hell special stages in mania is also really annoying
1:19 PM
i’m also in the minority of not really liking mania as much as the next guy
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:20 PM
Well, I managed to finish the game with all emeralds without replaying levels. idk
1:20 PM
Love mania and its upcomming dlc
1:20 PM
mighty's comming back after that 20+ year hiatus
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:21 PM
i think i’ll just get mania plus because it’s on disc
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:21 PM
That's a valid reason
ゲームボーイ64 3/28/2018 1:21 PM
or possibly import it for the reversible cover art
Laenthor 3/28/2018 1:22 PM
But I wanted to play the game too much and couldn't wait almost 1 year
GerbilSoft 3/28/2018 3:38 PM
hm
3:39 PM
looking into adding N64DD support to rom-properties but i don't understand the layout of the NDD file format
GerbilSoft 3/28/2018 4:07 PM
okay i think i got it now - used some info from leotools
4:07 PM
system area and disk id should be enough
4:07 PM
...not sure how to distinguish between gray and blue disk images though
Δndrew P. 3/28/2018 4:23 PM
Is anyone interested in this one dev kit tool I found in the GameCube (er, Dolphin?) SDK? It's just a memory card editor that can format to 2 different encoding and creates dummy save files for mem card testing.
4:24 PM
And there's a whole lot of other Demos and demonstrations but way too much to write about, also some dont work with the Dolphin GC Emulator at all.
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/28/2018 5:28 PM
Homefront: The Revolution - 2016
5:29 PM
It appears the Timesplitters 2 demo in HF:TR, as i mentioned previously. Does indeed contain the whole game.
5:30 PM
and, as you can see above. Some other odd stuff as well.
5:31 PM
Aside from that Second Sight image, there's also several screenshots taken of a Timesplitters Future Perfect trailer.
5:32 PM
The way it's set up is pretty odd too, it appears they extracted and converted a lot of the data to work with Cryengine, but they still left the original .pak files in the data.
5:34 PM
The music (Which was only thing in the original version that wasn't stored in the .pak files) has also been converted to .ogg files, when the original game (At least the Xbox version, which i'm using for comparision.) used .wavs. This is most likely due to how the Cryengine works, considering that the music in HF:TR itself is also saved in .ogg format. (edited)
5:37 PM
and here's a comparision between the two versions, you can see that the Homefront demo version is slightly larger.
Foas 3/28/2018 5:48 PM
wonder if you can access the rest of the game
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/28/2018 6:06 PM
I think it might be theorically possible.
6:07 PM
The only issue is that there's no way to re-pack the files.
6:07 PM
Even the current extractor for it requires a convulted set-up where you need a specfic version of the game to use.
6:08 PM
Also some of the music files are missing, though that might be because i had to stop the extractor partway through so i could sleep.
GerbilSoft 3/28/2018 6:18 PM
FYI: If you're using win7, update and reboot asap
6:18 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/28/microsoft_windows_meltdown_patch_security_flaw/
Microsoft's Windows 7 Meltdown fixes from January, February made P...
You'll want to install the March update. Like right now – if you can avoid broken networking
z20kdc 3/28/2018 6:32 PM
so RW:AoD (PS2)'s SPEECH.DAT format is pretty simple... it's a pointer section, starting with an LE 32-bit total-size, followed by as many LE 32-bit file-pointers as can fit, all pointing to VAG files. these VAG files (once extracted - use the waveform size to work out the total VAG filesize) are openable in Rcomage. (edited)
6:35 PM
also, despite the name, it seems to contain all the audio, including music.
6:39 PM
I doubt there's unused music,
6:39 PM
but there are a lot of speech samples.
goat 3/28/2018 6:43 PM
if you're using win7: bump to 8.1 or 10 it has been like a decade since win7 hit
GerbilSoft 3/28/2018 7:20 PM
Some of us prefer to use an OS that's designed around actual software instead of worthless apps
goat 3/28/2018 7:28 PM
i've gotten tangible benefits from using win10 and the apps aren't even close to mandatory
7:29 PM
people've been regurgitating the whole app thing since 8's original launch and even then there was no reason to use the apps
Δndrew P. 3/28/2018 7:32 PM
Windows 10's latest update sent me to a bootloop which made me hate w10 so much more,
darkwitchclaire 3/28/2018 7:38 PM
tangible benefits like what? I've used both and really don't see any
GerbilSoft 3/28/2018 7:43 PM
Benefits such as realtime... weapon change?
Deleted User 3/28/2018 8:04 PM
Automatic forced updates
goat 3/28/2018 8:11 PM
tangible benefits like compact with actual useful compression methods
leilei 3/28/2018 8:29 PM
egad brain
Neko May 3/28/2018 9:03 PM
Time to switch to Linux
punk7890 3/28/2018 9:11 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ I found the same debug menu in the first Arcana Heart game. I'll post it on TCRF later. I think that should be all of the Ecole games done now.
9:12 PM
At least, on PS2.
9:12 PM
This dev is basically the same as Alfa System. All of their PS2 games had debug menus
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/28/2018 10:40 PM
nice!
MrRichard999 3/28/2018 11:09 PM
Is anyone here familiar with decompression and re-insertion of data for SNES ROMS?
divingkxt 3/28/2018 11:43 PM
Revenant is. I'm not.
Neko May 3/29/2018 1:07 AM
@Revenant
Neko May 3/29/2018 4:22 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ, are you here?
Athena 悠里マヤ 3/29/2018 4:42 AM
hi
4:45 AM
@togemet2 Can I help?
punk7890 3/29/2018 6:16 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/979301169058033664
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Arcana Heart https://t.co/vRm8ODFSao The same type of menu is also found in Melty Blood: Actress Again, Melty Blood: Act Cadenza, and Suggoi! Arcana Heart 2.
6:16 AM
6:17 AM
took like 15 seconds to find
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/29/2018 6:17 AM
The Melee/Regional Differences article says the Tamagon trophy was removed in European releases of Super Smash Bros. Melee. I beg to differ
🐮 3/29/2018 6:30 AM
But is it actually obtainable/accessible in the game without the use of cheats or other external tools?
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/29/2018 6:31 AM
to my knowledge, no, but the article acted as if it doesn't even exist in the code anymore in European releases, which is outright false
🐮 3/29/2018 8:15 AM
Ah, yeah. It's not always worded as eloquently as it should be, haha.
8:16 AM
So...how exactly are people doing Switch dumps and stuff like this that Ehm did not want to talk about on Twitter Dot Com?
8:16 AM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/979180834128384001
"The Hacker Known As Ehm" (@OtherEhm)
URL fragments that appear to be blocked on Switch. Not like the standard user can even access a web browser that easily.
Deleted User 3/29/2018 8:50 AM
Didn't want to talk about?
GerbilSoft 3/29/2018 8:50 AM
>.*fuck.* (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/29/2018 8:51 AM
GerbilSoft 3/29/2018 8:51 AM
>blocks gmail.com but not mail.google.com
RanAS 3/29/2018 10:34 AM
10:35 AM
should i post this model render to the Banjo-Tooie page or is it completely unecessary?
old acc! inactive 3/29/2018 10:35 AM
it'd be better without the HUD/background but sure
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/29/2018 10:42 AM
messing around with a US copy of Brawl and comparing it to my European version... the filesystem is slightly different. There's no "effect" folder, and consequently no references to most of the forbidden 7. All of the Subspace Emissary cutscenes also appear to be exclusive to American versions of the game, and have been scrubbed from the European release with the exception of 1.
10:44 AM
It also seems that based on the filenames, Jigglypuff and Wolf got swapped around in the Subspace Emissary. Since the filename for Wolf's cutscene is grouped together with the cutscenes for the Swamp level, where you find Jigglypuff in the final version, and vice versa with Jiggs and the Ruins level. Which makes sense, since the Ruins level features all of the Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon, while the Swamp level features Fox & Falco. No idea why they were swapped around
GerbilSoft 3/29/2018 10:48 AM
`int main() { volatile uint64_t *ptr = (volatile uint64_t *)0xFFFFF6FB7DBED000; printf("Root PTE addr: %p\n", ptr); printf("Overwriting with zeroes...\n"); while (1) { *ptr++ = 0; } return 0; }`
3
10:48 AM
running this on a vulnerable Windows 7 machine will triple-fault the CPU
10:48 AM
no admin access required
10:50 AM
@Lewys (NUTLORD) scrubbed from the euro release, as in the cutscenes are completely gone?
10:50 AM
that doesn't sound right
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/29/2018 10:56 AM
https://tcrf.net/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl#Placeholders checked pretty thoroughly. All of them, aside from the one labelled "sample" aren't in the European version. Including the 2 corrupted ones lower down
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
GerbilSoft 3/29/2018 11:00 AM
oh, just the extra frames - not the cutscenes completely
11:00 AM
brb
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/29/2018 11:00 AM
no the entire cutscenes. As in the entries don't have anything there at all. The placeholders don't exist in the European version. Though they are just that 1 frame
RanAS 3/29/2018 11:33 AM
11:33 AM
this empty room sure has a huge ceiling/floor
11:35 AM
it's a shame that this plugin can only render the stuff that's currently visible, if there's anything unloaded, it won't render it
ゲームボーイ64 3/29/2018 11:38 AM
kind of reminds me of one of the sonic xtreme prototypes with the textures
RanAS 3/29/2018 11:53 AM
none of banjo-tooie's unused rooms load on Project64 v2.3.2 or 1964 v1.1
11:53 AM
for some reason
11:55 AM
i assume there's something that v1.6/v1.7 ignore that they shouldn't (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/29/2018 2:02 PM
https://tcrf.net/Category:Adventure_Time_series bootiful
Category:Adventure Time series
Neko May 3/29/2018 4:50 PM
The problem with N64 emulation is that it's all HLE
4:51 PM
It's more like WINE than, say, higan
LuigiBlood 3/29/2018 4:53 PM
It's not all high level
4:54 PM
By default Project64 uses LLE Audio
4:54 PM
and tends to be reliable
Neko May 3/29/2018 4:58 PM
Just audio, though. Everything else is retranslated and completely inaccurate.
LuigiBlood 3/29/2018 4:59 PM
There is LLE Video though
4:59 PM
We know how to do it
4:59 PM
it's just super slow
Laenthor 3/29/2018 5:00 PM
Well, time to start filtering through ~>1000 audio files. They won't stop shouting... the characters never shut up!
LuigiBlood 3/29/2018 5:01 PM
and HLE Video depends on microcodes
Neko May 3/29/2018 5:03 PM
The microcode comes in the ROM
5:03 PM
It's not stored in the console
5:04 PM
It gets uploaded and executed as part of the boot process
5:05 PM
But no, no HLE runs like the actual N64.
LuigiBlood 3/29/2018 5:06 PM
it gets uploaded to the RSP and if it's a video microcode, Video plugin takes over
5:07 PM
if it's an audio microcode, HLE Audio takes over
5:07 PM
If one of these things were not set up, RSP plugin takes it
5:07 PM
and sends to LLE plugins
5:08 PM
that's how it works
Neko May 3/29/2018 5:12 PM
Doesn't really matter how it works if it's still completely inaccurate
5:13 PM
Which was the entire point
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/29/2018 5:20 PM
LuigiBlood 3/29/2018 5:31 PM
Well I'm a person who wants the truth to be said
5:31 PM
I don't like people using false info to prove their point, even if it's overall true
Neko May 3/29/2018 5:35 PM
"I don't like people telling the truth when it's about something I'd rather they not know the truth about."
cuba200611 3/29/2018 5:42 PM
Is N64 emulation bad enough such that games have to be hacked such that they can be emulated (a la Nesticle), or no?
Neko May 3/29/2018 6:09 PM
No, it's not that bad.
cuba200611 3/29/2018 6:11 PM
So I found out that in 1985, a ZX Spectrum "simulator" came out for the Commodore 64.
6:11 PM
https://archive.org/stream/commodore-horizons-17/Commodore_Horizons_Issue_17_1985_May#page/n9/mode/1up
6:11 PM
It could only run BASIC programs.
LuigiBlood 3/29/2018 6:19 PM
Only Donkey Kong 64 needs such a hack
6:20 PM
at the moment
Video 3/29/2018 6:30 PM
lesson learned: don't swap isos on any game while background music is playing
6:30 PM
otherwise it will rape your ears
MrRichard999 3/29/2018 6:42 PM
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/spec-ops-the-line?hmb_source=humble_home&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_1_layout_type_twos_tile_index_1
Buy Spec Ops: The Line from the Humble Store
Use of this product requires agreement to the following third party end user license agreement: http://www.take2games.com/eula/ Spec Ops: The Line is a new original title from 2K Games that features provocative and gripping Third-Person modern m...
Smoke 3/29/2018 6:45 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:HotAirBlimp.png
File:HotAirBlimp.png
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/29/2018 7:00 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:HotAirBlimp.png there we go
File:HotAirBlimp.png
Video 3/29/2018 7:04 PM
yeah i don't think this is supposed to happen
Smoke 3/29/2018 7:05 PM
thats normal
Video 3/29/2018 7:07 PM
Laenthor 3/29/2018 7:28 PM
*screams in agony
divingkxt 3/29/2018 11:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvUPOtz4v7A
GameHut
Christian Easter Eggs I've Hidden In My Games...
11:28 PM
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Softimage_Mod_Tool
Softimage Mod Tool
11:28 PM
Contains a watermark from this.
leilei 3/29/2018 11:30 PM
i like greentooth in games
11:30 PM
probably known as "tf2 item bag face" to many
11:32 PM
and they're usually done by industry veteran 3d artists
divingkxt 3/29/2018 11:34 PM
http://polycount.com/discussion/92534/greentooth-sightings-in-videogames
Greentooth Sightings in Videogames
If you spot a surreptitiously placed Greentooth in a videogame, take a screen shot and share it here.
leilei 3/29/2018 11:35 PM
the greentooth itself has explicitly defined free legal restrictions, so it really gets around
11:35 PM
but only makes sense if you're an artist from there looking to sneak it in (edited)
Deleted User 3/30/2018 1:18 AM
Anyone wants to know this title?
1:18 AM
NEW_BOUNCING_BABY_1.tga
1:18 AM
slowly claps Clever Title CA... (edited)
ƒluƒƒу 3/30/2018 1:20 AM
:O
Deleted User 3/30/2018 4:02 AM
So guys, since the thread, Rome: Total War have expanded a little bit, do you think its time to remove that Studdy Message? Aka the This page is rather stubbly and could use some expansion.
RanAS 3/30/2018 9:00 AM
anyone know how the N64 GameShark codetypes `E9` and `E8` work? i can't seem to find any documentation about it...
goat 3/30/2018 10:12 AM
ffff there is a guy on twitter who is posting dark souls 3 stuff and bloodborne stuff and not explaining either enough
10:13 AM
https://twitter.com/manfightdragon/status/975357787692609536
Lance McDonald (@manfightdragon)
Okay, got the full alpha of Dark Souls 3 to boot, not just the network test map. Crashes A LOT but hey, it loads and I can run around and those enemies are definitely not there in the final game.
10:14 AM
queen yharnam from bloodborne still appears in ds3 which is REAL wonky and unknown
ƒluƒƒу 3/30/2018 10:20 AM
well bugger, looks like i actually made a really simple and really stupid mistake on something a while back https://tcrf.net/Prerelease_talk:Fire_Emblem:_Path_of_Radiance (edited)
10:20 AM
sorry about that
10:23 AM
aaaaaaaand of course when i try to go and correct it, my internet speed suddenly tanks hard
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/30/2018 12:57 PM
https://youtu.be/gA-sg1qQpnk i'll have to document this when I get home
ImJustATester
Ratchet & Clank 2 - Swarm Gun (Cut weapon)
12:58 PM
the method of obtaining it is entirely different compared to the other unused weapons
goat 3/30/2018 1:04 PM
there's a few souls you can't use normally in aria of sorrow because they're in a different struct
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/30/2018 6:57 PM
Continuning my Timesplitters 2 in Homefront: The Revolution search from a couple of days ago, i'm currently looking at the EXE file.
6:57 PM
and starting at offset 21BC606, is what appears to be all of the text in Timesplitters 2!
6:58 PM
Even the Xbox (Offset 21BE090) memory card warnings are still there. (edited)
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/30/2018 7:10 PM
There's also directory listings taken from the dev's pcs. Which reveals a pretty important detail.
7:11 PM
(Offset 21e75b8) "d:\work\dsdb\Code\TS2\ ts2redux \cryengine\ce_file.cpp" (edited)
7:12 PM
Yes, Timesplitters 2 Redux. This is pretty much definite proof that this was meant to be a port of the full game.
ETPC 3/30/2018 7:12 PM
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/30/2018 7:16 PM
On an unrelated note, there's also an entire webpage mistakenly stored in the exe.
ETPC 3/30/2018 7:16 PM
wuh-oh
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/30/2018 7:17 PM
starting at offset 225e520
7:17 PM
Here's a small sample. "entertainmentunderstanding = function().jpg" width="configuration.png" width="<body class="Math.random()contemporary United Statescircumstances.appendChild(organizations<span class=""><img src="/distinguishedthousands of communicationclear"></div>investigationfavicon.ico" margin-right:based on the Massachusettstable border=internationalalso known aspronunciationbackground:#fpadding-left:For example, miscellaneous&lt;/math&gt;psychologicalin particularearch" type="form method="as opposed toSupreme Courtoccasionally Additionally,North Americapx;backgroundopportunitiesEntertainment.toLowerCase(manufacturingprofessional combined withFor instance,consisting of" maxlength="return false;consciousnessMediterraneanextraordinaryassassinationsubsequently button type="the number ofthe original comprehensiverefers to the</ul>.</div>.philosophicallocation.hrefwas publishedSan Francisco(function(){.<div id="mainsophisticatedmathematical /head>..<bodysuggests thatdocumentationconcentrationrelationshipsmay have been(for example,This article in some casesparts of the definition ofGreat Britain cellpadding=equivalent toplaceholder="; font-size: justificationbelieved thatsuffered fromattempted to leader of thecript""
leilei 3/30/2018 7:19 PM
sounds like a lorem ipsum awesomium test (edited)
General Instrument CP1610 1979 3/30/2018 7:21 PM
https://pastebin.com/GqJu7whV Here's the whole thing, i think.
entertainmentunderstanding = function().jpg" width="configuration....
leilei 3/30/2018 8:05 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/30/2018 8:05 PM
🐮 3/30/2018 8:37 PM
oh nO
Color Printer 3/30/2018 8:48 PM
every time i see that image i imagine tidus saying that in the same tone as his narration and it cracks me up every single time
leilei 3/30/2018 9:02 PM
is it possible to deep fake tidus over a newscaster
ETPC 3/30/2018 9:02 PM
LET ME TELL YOU A STORY
Deleted User 3/30/2018 9:10 PM
:`:`
🐮 3/30/2018 9:13 PM
Where is the story.
Nex 3/30/2018 10:06 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/30/2018 10:54 PM
can the reflection texture be dumped?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/30/2018 11:03 PM
oh
Deleted User 3/30/2018 11:05 PM
Anyone able to get me that EXE that was talked about earlier? I'm really curious!
sjsjsns 00 3/30/2018 11:43 PM
What the fuck is that Tidus line
11:43 PM
Please tell me it's fake
divingkxt 3/31/2018 12:02 AM
It's a piece of an article from Associated Press.
12:02 AM
And no, it's not fake.
Hâlian (ping in replies) 3/31/2018 12:44 AM
?
sjsjsns 00 3/31/2018 12:49 AM
Oh god
divingkxt 3/31/2018 12:51 AM
@Hâlian (ping in replies) https://tcrf.net/images/8/82/FFX-binladen.png
Hâlian (ping in replies) 3/31/2018 12:52 AM
o.O
Incineroar 3/31/2018 1:17 AM
didn't they just find like, a random excerpt and paste it for a text test?
ゲームボーイ64 3/31/2018 1:18 AM
probably
Neko May 3/31/2018 1:19 AM
"There's been a kidnapping! It's Rachael, daughter of the president of Sercia!"
divingkxt 3/31/2018 1:33 AM
That's probably how the hostage crisis picture ended up in Mario Kart GP.
Neko May 3/31/2018 1:36 AM
Ah, someone got the reference?
punk7890 3/31/2018 2:08 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/979963110285963264
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several debug menus in Xenosaga Episode III https://t.co/fW6qomJXAh This enables most notably, a map select option and a flag editor. You can obtain any item and set various story mode flags with it. It took some time to track these all ...
2:08 AM
2:09 AM
Debug stuff everywhere in that game. Some don't work anymore though.
Neko May 3/31/2018 2:10 AM
I think nobody got my reference. :(
divingkxt 3/31/2018 2:12 AM
Time Crisis.
Neko May 3/31/2018 2:23 AM
hugs @divingkxt
2:23 AM
A favorite series of mine.
Andreelikes 3/31/2018 8:17 AM
https://twitter.com/Demonslayerx8/status/978617001085083649
デーモンスレイヤー×8 (@Demonslayerx8)
Golden Pyra... huh? Leftover data apparently in Xenoblade Chronicles 2, labled something like "Rare Blade Creation Dummy" Then again, there's a lot of left over data, even for the models and their textures...
8:17 AM
I NEED THAT TOOL!!!
punk7890 3/31/2018 8:46 AM
Welp, just found an entire section of unused cheats for the mini game in Xenosaga 3.
8:47 AM
Pretty neat. Comes with a ton of unused stages as well. They all appear to work to.
Laenthor 3/31/2018 10:11 AM
Hey, what do you prefer: 1. Multiple small unused maps 2. One or two huge unused maps (like the ones in xenoblade chronicles)
Nex 3/31/2018 10:49 AM
depends on wether the multiple small ones are just copies of existing ones that are boring af
divingkxt 3/31/2018 2:00 PM
Uh hey.
2:00 PM
"There is an unused brunette human girl. Roamable human characters wouldn't be later implemented until Super Mario Odyssey. "Just before, there is a similar discussion before. It was planned to put on a human in "Super Mario Sunshine"" :yoshiaki koizumi in an interview with super Mario odyssey."
2:00 PM
Can anyone find that interview Koizumi did?
2:00 PM
I can't.
2:01 PM
Allegedly, he said humans were planned on being in Super Mario Sunshine, but I can't find the quote for that.
2:01 PM
And the editor who did that didn't mention which interview it was.
old acc! inactive 3/31/2018 2:22 PM
that quote seems pretty shady
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 2:22 PM
seems like conjecture really
old acc! inactive 3/31/2018 2:22 PM
but there was a girl in one of the mario sunshine trailers
2:22 PM
the spaceworld one
divingkxt 3/31/2018 2:23 PM
Yes, and the prerelease page is where that quote came from.
2:23 PM
I've commented it out for now.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 2:26 PM
2:26 PM
well its not that, but im certainly finding some quality quotes here
GerbilSoft 3/31/2018 2:46 PM
someone posted this elsewhere - an easter egg was recently discovered on a 14-year-old ps2 game
2:46 PM
https://twitter.com/alejansolo/status/962093776343744512
Alejandro (@alejansolo)
This PS2 game just flat out gave me the most devastating burn.
Retweets
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2:46 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/31/2018 2:47 PM
you know what i think is a little surprising? The fact that we don't have a page for Duck Hunt
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 2:48 PM
i dare you to grasp for the tiniest stuff you could call unused in that game
divingkxt 3/31/2018 2:48 PM
Yeah, that.
2:49 PM
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of hidden content in other games. But Duck Hunt has been thoroughly look into and there's nothing.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 2:49 PM
i suppose there could be something in the code if you disassemble the whole game but thats some hellish effort
divingkxt 3/31/2018 2:52 PM
Here's all the GFX from Duck Hunt for the sake of it.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 2:53 PM
but wheres J Q and X???
2:53 PM
top 10 font betrayals
divingkxt 3/31/2018 2:53 PM
They're not there.
2:54 PM
Replaced with random shapes because there's no need for them.
2:55 PM
@GerbilSoft Err... http://www.mocagh.org/miscgame/thebardstale-cd.jpg
2:55 PM
It's in all versions of the game.
2:55 PM
GerbilSoft 3/31/2018 2:56 PM
so it is
2:56 PM
derp
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 2:57 PM
for a joke they did put some effort in to have it in all designs
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/31/2018 2:58 PM
not even regional/revisonal differences?
2:58 PM
thats even more surprising lul
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 2:58 PM
its probably the same rom for all regions
2:59 PM
2:59 PM
lmao no ones redumped it
Revenant 3/31/2018 3:03 PM
because nobody owns a copy of duck hunt by itself
GerbilSoft 3/31/2018 3:03 PM
i do
3:03 PM
but i don't have an NES dumper :V
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 3:04 PM
damn i forgot about that
GerbilSoft 3/31/2018 3:04 PM
(US region)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 3:04 PM
its specifically that SMB combo cart that everyone has
GerbilSoft 3/31/2018 3:04 PM
SMB1 and Duck Hunt standalone carts are relatively rare
3:04 PM
the combined cart was released in 1988
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 3:04 PM
i got an asian SMB1 pretty recently
3:05 PM
no idea what its worth though...
3:07 PM
about 10 euros it seems
Revenant 3/31/2018 3:07 PM
i own SMB + duck hunt + world class track meet (but not the floor mat)
3:07 PM
for whatever reason
!registerkey PPLTOasT 3/31/2018 3:08 PM
now you dont have to buy stadium events
GerbilSoft 3/31/2018 3:18 PM
so it seems discord rolled out their april fools early
3:18 PM
@someone (∩ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)⊃━☆ﾟ. o ･ ｡ﾟ (Hugo Peters)
divingkxt 3/31/2018 3:21 PM
https://www.unseen64.net/2010/05/19/devilman-nes-beta-unused-stuff/
Devilman [NES - Beta / Unused] - Unseen64
As we can read on Wikipedia, a video game based on the popular Devilman manga / anime series was developed by ISCO and published by Namco in 1989 for the NES / Famicom. The game is an action RPG where players take control of Akira Fudo and the ob...
3:21 PM
Here's a game not on the wiki yet.
3:21 PM
Surprising as it seems.
3:22 PM
Begins around 38810(headered)/38800(unheadered) in the ROM.
rampy 3/31/2018 4:00 PM
@divingkxt congrats on having an avatar
divingkxt 3/31/2018 4:19 PM
Thank you.
4:19 PM
Took me a while, but I have one now.
Halfbit 3/31/2018 4:24 PM
I tried to look through Urban Champion. Found nothing aside from a few bricks
divingkxt 3/31/2018 5:07 PM
5:07 PM
vs.
5:07 PM
5:07 PM
I found the video that image was source from.
5:07 PM
And yeah, the original uploader took it at a resolution WAY too high.
Deleted User 3/31/2018 5:33 PM
i found something interesting in TF2's files
5:33 PM
in the BLU demoman texture, theres a completely different head than the one used ingame
5:35 PM
and this is his final head, see le difference? does this mean its technically unused?
5:35 PM
(sorry for the nightmare fuel head texture)
Deleted User 3/31/2018 5:55 PM
Whoops, I broken the map.
5:56 PM
Its showing me Beta Version of this map, instead of the final.
5:56 PM
So if I delete stuff, It shows me beta stuff?
5:57 PM
dunno what game that is but most likely it uses beta thumbnails as backups..?
divingkxt 3/31/2018 5:59 PM
What vinny said.
5:59 PM
And I know that for the Worms 3D games, it shows some random person's face is a level's image is missing.
6:00 PM
I know that's true for Worms Forts: Under Siege.
Deleted User 3/31/2018 6:00 PM
vinny, Then why did CA did not included this as their backup?
6:00 PM
temporary image
6:00 PM
likewise, I think they used the Old map during E3 2004.
Laenthor 3/31/2018 6:01 PM
Maybe these were used when the level was being made and the one you see is used in case of missing files.
Deleted User 3/31/2018 6:02 PM
Laenthor, yea, Its the case of missing files, all I had to do was get a backup .zip and delete .tga files.
6:02 PM
But you guys wanna know whats even more interesting?
Laenthor 3/31/2018 6:02 PM
Sure
Deleted User 3/31/2018 6:04 PM
Originally, during a German Review, this was suppose to appear instead of the map.
divingkxt 3/31/2018 6:17 PM
@[PFC] Metalsonic78#8654 We don't use "beta" to refer to early stuff, due to "beta" being a part of the development cycle (and a rather later one at all). (edited)
6:21 PM
Unless a prototype actually is labelled "beta".
divingkxt 3/31/2018 7:53 PM
https://sledge3.deviantart.com/art/Heavy-Barrel-NES-Early-Setup-518613010
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/31/2018 8:00 PM
Anybody here know Japanese? Found this in Japanese Brawl's character select UI. Curiously, the US equivalent is blank
8:00 PM
probably a duplicate or something but I found it interesting
divingkxt 3/31/2018 8:01 PM
Zelda/Sheik (edited)
Lewys (NUTLORD) 3/31/2018 8:02 PM
Thanks, figured as much. It came right after Toon Link in the fighter order
skeletonhugger 3/31/2018 9:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04UXNNIeDc
Steve Blockhead
Sonic The Fighters: Debug Mode - Download + Tutorial
Deleted User 3/31/2018 9:22 PM
getting random @.everyone pings be like
BrokenBenny 3/31/2018 9:34 PM
I think I have found the PDF for The Beginner's Guide's soundtrack.
9:34 PM
The Beginner's Guide Soundtrack PDF
mbid-32401769-1e85-43a0-8a60-f96c9a80a958-17920035174_text.pdf
4.47 MB
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 3/31/2018 10:45 PM
https://youtu.be/g6GHLd6Ww6c
Eurose
ROTFD - Unused Power Chop Attack (Charging Animation)
10:51 PM
the person who found it is offline right now, but i'll ask him how to access it when he comes online
Δndrew P. 3/31/2018 11:09 PM
Does the US and EU versions of the PS Vita support Rakuraku WLAN internet connections?
Nosonic64 3/31/2018 11:54 PM
Does anyone now how to open a .BZE file?
divingkxt 3/31/2018 11:55 PM
First time I've heard of that.
Deleted User 3/31/2018 11:55 PM
what game
Nosonic64 3/31/2018 11:55 PM
Monsters inc scare island
11:55 PM
for pc
Deleted User 3/31/2018 11:56 PM
can you upload a sample
divingkxt 3/31/2018 11:56 PM
It's also used for Bugs Bunny Lost in Time apparently.
Nosonic64 3/31/2018 11:56 PM
ACCA.bze
1.63 MB
divingkxt 3/31/2018 11:56 PM
Both developed by Behaviour Interactive.
Nosonic64 3/31/2018 11:57 PM
maybe its only openable using a program they developed
Siege 3/31/2018 11:59 PM
Interesting text in there. Looks like an internal file format to me
11:59 PM
Like a resources file, specifically, imo
divingkxt 3/31/2018 11:59 PM
OK, so Behaviour Interactive/Artificial Mind & Movement Inc.
Siege 3/31/2018 11:59 PM
(Also hi, I'm new)
divingkxt 4/1/2018 12:01 AM
Hello.
Deleted User 4/1/2018 12:05 AM
5
12:05 AM
none of the data is compressed, which is good
12:05 AM
palette offsets are probably just before each image chunk
Nosonic64 4/1/2018 12:06 AM
woah
12:06 AM
howd you even
Dezent 4/1/2018 12:07 AM
He's a magician
Deleted User 4/1/2018 12:07 AM
https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/646/
TiledGGD
A generic graphics dumping tool, based on the elusive program GGD TiledGGD - basically it's
12:09 AM
settings
12:09 AM
I removed stuff that doesn't really matter
12:09 AM
play around with things
Nosonic64 4/1/2018 12:09 AM
ty
slfx77 4/1/2018 12:11 AM
Question: Would it be okay to start a thread on JUL for just debug menus in general? I feel like there's enough interest in those for it to be worthwhile. (edited)
divingkxt 4/1/2018 12:15 AM
Sure.
slfx77 4/1/2018 12:16 AM
Alright, I'll type something up in a bit then, thanks.
Siege 4/1/2018 12:26 AM
Interesting stuff
divingkxt 4/1/2018 1:01 AM
"Discord will now crash at random to keep you on your toes at all times. Your calves will thank us later."
1:01 AM
@supereveryone Anyone want a channel for tools?
punk7890 4/1/2018 1:12 AM
That could be beneficial to a lot of people.
1:13 AM
Maybe throw all the tools in pins or something
Hâlian (ping in replies) 4/1/2018 1:26 AM
hands everyone a chocolate six-legged dragon; their horns appear to be floating around their heads.
1:26 AM
I like the rainbow background for the someone ping
FutureFractal 4/1/2018 1:50 AM
i'm scared
Hâlian (ping in replies) 4/1/2018 1:52 AM
o.o :c
Deleted User 4/1/2018 1:57 AM
I would love a Tool chan that actually had useful tools
Dezent 4/1/2018 1:59 AM
Plot twist: someone's name from this discord appears in the #tools channel
Chorus Line 4/1/2018 3:20 AM
No April Fool's TCRF? aw
3:20 AM
(jk it doesnt matter)
divingkxt 4/1/2018 3:23 AM
There is now.
3:23 AM
Take a look at our logo now.
3:23 AM
On the wiki.
Chorus Line 4/1/2018 3:23 AM
lmao cute
Dezent 4/1/2018 3:24 AM
GAH
3:26 AM
1
Video 4/1/2018 4:28 AM
LOL
z20kdc 4/1/2018 5:38 AM
divingkatae: And to think all I had for April Fools Day jokes was: `Here at 20kdc Infographics, we believe in a diverse product line. Thus, we are now porting our <this bit differs depending on server> set of software for Lua-virtual-machine-based computers, to the <this bit differs depending on server> We have already achieved spectacular performance on <this bit differs depending on server>` as per usual, TCRF: exceeding expectations (edited)
leilei 4/1/2018 6:17 AM
i forgot april fools was around the corner and i didn't prepare for that
6:17 AM
still watched 8 hours of anime though
6:17 AM
toonami aired subs. and flcl2 (edited)
FrostedGeulleisia 4/1/2018 6:20 AM
why no aprel follis
LarryLemmy 4/1/2018 6:39 AM
I'd love to see other site images replaced
karmic 4/1/2018 6:41 AM
display all images as
z20kdc 4/1/2018 6:58 AM
Watch out, they'll replace the Discord server icon next.
karmic 4/1/2018 6:58 AM
Ms. Cac-Tus
z20kdc 4/1/2018 6:59 AM
(Luckily, if someone starts an April Fools joke after mid-day, it's said that they're the fool. And they have one minute until it's mid-day here.)
6:59 AM
(Sorry, did I say a minute? 10 seconds. Aaaand done.) (edited)
BrokenBenny 4/1/2018 8:28 AM
Alright guys, will that PDF I put in the chat come in handy? In any way, perhaps?
8:29 AM
I can re-upload it
BowzasaurusRex 4/1/2018 10:31 AM
Hey, I was ripping music from the News Channel for the Wii and I noticed a song named NEW_BGM_READ. I've never heard this before on the News Channel. The name makes it sound like it would play while reading an article, but AFAIK no music plays while you're reading an article. Is this song unused?
Jitterdoomer 4/1/2018 11:17 AM
Maximum Tune 5 for arcades had leftover cars from previous games like Akio's 300ZX (Z33), Pac-Man Hiace (KZH100G), and post Kijima story arc like Ogishima's RX-7 FD.
11:19 AM
The Dummy car scattered around the files was a Red Nissan Skyline V-Spec II (R34). (edited)
11:20 AM
Maximum Tune 5 had tons of leftovers from previous games and the Japanese version of 5 had Test cars like Audi and Dodge from International version of the game. Mt. Taikan was named "Turnpike" in the files as a placeholder name before giving a proper name. (edited)
Deleted User 4/1/2018 11:46 AM
RanAS 4/1/2018 12:54 PM
jesus christ i just noticed the ms. pacman face on the website
Laenthor 4/1/2018 1:01 PM
So yeah uh the megaminer prank was cancelled since it got called out?
z20kdc 4/1/2018 1:03 PM
but but what about the drone things to make a big face out of drones and the - but what about the(...) (edited)
1:03 PM
...I do wonder what the "megamind" theme was about though
ゲームボーイ64 4/1/2018 1:04 PM
wait megaminer was a prank
1:06 PM
huh
Nex 4/1/2018 1:16 PM
why are you surpised
ゲームボーイ64 4/1/2018 1:19 PM
i dunno
1:20 PM
i just am
tape 4/1/2018 2:08 PM
tfw you dig around for potentially interesting uncompressed graphics in the earliest ecco 2 prototype but all you find are trilobites from the first game
2:08 PM
[image of that "dinosaurs attack" card with the guy getting mauled by trilobites]
2:09 PM
also i'm here now
Deleted User 4/1/2018 2:14 PM
im eccos friend
tape 4/1/2018 2:15 PM
give me a fish
2:16 PM
i wouldn't be surprised if the trilobites are still a functional object in that prototype
2:16 PM
by x11 their graphics were partially overwritten with other stuff, and i haven't checked if those leftovers remain in the final
2:17 PM
the annoying prehistoric volcano tentacle is right next door and distinctly remember it being unused and functional as far as the x11 proto
2:17 PM
but this is going by ancient darksea memories
divingkxt 4/1/2018 2:26 PM
@BrokenBenny As designer notes, I guess.
2:26 PM
Prerelease page?
BrokenBenny 4/1/2018 2:31 PM
@divingkxt Hmm
2:33 PM
@divingkxt I ended up e-mailing GranPC today, asking about behind-the-scenes of The Stanley Parable (2013 game) and The Beginner's Guide, for information regarding the unused stuff in the latter... and especially the (presumed) early version of Davey's quote on the Backwards game.
2:34 PM
@divingkxt It's gonna take some time for him to reply, though, but I can wait for him to clear his head and get back to me. He'll definitely answer it faster than there can be an explanation for the 'three dots'.
2:38 PM
I did notice his e-mail was gran.pc@gmail.com, it's mentioned in a crash message for The Beginner's Guide. (And wow, I love those debug messages for the various console commands!)
Nex 4/1/2018 3:03 PM
3 pings in a row :dab:
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/1/2018 3:03 PM
tape 4/1/2018 3:14 PM
so the trilobites seem to be completely gone in the final version but the tentacle thing is still there (ignore the palette lol)
3:15 PM
i wonder if they had plans for it
3:15 PM
(for the uninitiated, this is what used those graphics in ecco 1)
3:17 PM
probably the only interesting uncompressed graphic i could find
tape 4/1/2018 3:28 PM
anyways checking out the ancient savestates i dug up
3:28 PM
from my internet hunting
3:28 PM
of dead forums and such
3:30 PM
this is the effect that makes the camera follow ecco's sonar, used in x11 in the level "billiard" but present as early as e2a
3:32 PM
the savestate calls this doohickey a "bubble container"
3:32 PM
it hurts ecco on contact
3:32 PM
it looks cool though besides the placeholder sprites
3:33 PM
the brown bubbles that it emits also hurt ecco
3:35 PM
a turret that aims at ecco and shoots projectiles at him. it can be damaged but not killed?
3:37 PM
an early version of the continue glyph that sucks out chunks of the health bar (which is on the left in this proto) and stretches out with each one collected
3:38 PM
iirc it's also still unused in x11 but they never changed it to account for the change in health bar position
3:40 PM
and an ecco 1 drone. not really necessary to mention since it's also in the final game, but it was in the rar with the rest of the savestates so i may as well
divingkxt 4/1/2018 3:42 PM
It's kind of sad to know how much gets lost over time.
tape 4/1/2018 3:44 PM
also another one i forgot to mention is the atlantis block puzzle thing
3:44 PM
at least, i'm guessing it is because uh
3:44 PM
3:45 PM
i accidentally timed this screenshot well enough to not capture ecco and the screen throbbing and pulsating from the game trying to process this and the telescoping spike at the same time
3:46 PM
i can't really interact with it because the collision around it is buggy
divingkxt 4/1/2018 3:46 PM
And the graphics are super glitchy.
tape 4/1/2018 3:46 PM
yeah
3:48 PM
there was one more savestate for a "small bubble" which is just a tiny blue thing that floats downward and doesn't seem to do anything else
3:53 PM
a while ago i got this menu to show up in the x11 proto by pressing random buttons on the title screen
3:54 PM
for demo recording i'm pretty sure
divingkxt 4/1/2018 3:54 PM
Yes.
tape 4/1/2018 3:55 PM
ah i forgot it was mentioned on the main page for ecco 2
3:57 PM
i should probably get around to fixing up the ecco 2 alpha page at some point because it is a MESS
divingkxt 4/1/2018 4:02 PM
How do you think this logo works?
leilei 4/1/2018 4:04 PM
whats a cuxing room
4:04 PM
it reminds me of zoso
divingkxt 4/1/2018 4:07 PM
That 'x' is supposed to be the two 't's crossed in a way that it looks like scissors.
4:07 PM
Also, note the thick red line at the bottom suggesting a loor.
Luminar 4/1/2018 4:11 PM
divingkxt 4/1/2018 4:11 PM
Though if you want a little bit more zoso to it.
🐮 4/1/2018 4:18 PM
How about
4:18 PM
Smoke 4/1/2018 4:23 PM
needs comic sans
Δndrew P. 4/1/2018 4:25 PM
I once had a font which was just Miiverse symbols but it’s on my desktop at home :(
divingkxt 4/1/2018 4:35 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/1/2018 4:36 PM
make the site look like geocities next year
tape 4/1/2018 4:39 PM
seeing the ms pac man logo in the corner of my eye when going to a page keeps catching me off guard
ゲームボーイ64 4/1/2018 4:41 PM
@tape that ecco 2 level reminds me of a bad future level in sonic cd
4:42 PM
The color and enemies, and I saw electricity going between walls
tape 4/1/2018 4:42 PM
it sort of does
4:42 PM
there's even a "metal ecco" boss in there
ゲームボーイ64 4/1/2018 4:43 PM
huh
tape 4/1/2018 4:43 PM
probably the most famous of the scrapped content more or less
4:43 PM
4:44 PM
in any case, all the dark future levels in the final game are above water
4:44 PM
this one was probably just a testing ground for dark future assets
ゲームボーイ64 4/1/2018 4:44 PM
huh
tape 4/1/2018 4:46 PM
and this enemy exists unused in the later prototypes
4:46 PM
which was documented on darksea ages ago but lost when that site died
4:49 PM
these were in another rar archive i found floating around
4:49 PM
sonar maps from the final game
4:50 PM
which will be useful for finding differences
4:50 PM
they're the same ones that were on darksea way back when
BrokenBenny 4/1/2018 4:51 PM
@divingkxt Yay, GranPC replied!
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Lewys (NUTLORD) 4/1/2018 5:06 PM
hopefully that's the last time I ever have to look at Brawl's ISO
Deleted User 4/1/2018 5:10 PM
Why's that Crash?
Lewys (NUTLORD) 4/1/2018 5:11 PM
Had a sift through the Japanese ISO - sadly is almost identical to the US ISO in most respects. It wasn't until the European release where the filesystem got a big clear up and that effect file with references to the Forbidden 7, cut SSE enemies and that 1 reference to Ridley as an Assist Trophy got removed. I can't read Japanese so any of the "MiscData" threads with Japanese text haven't been covered, but like 90% of that is just the WiFi connection text and track list text re-used everywhere
5:12 PM
Smash Bros has a huge amount of content to check through, and recently I decided I was stupid enough to try and cross section multiple ISOs from different regions to see if there was any cut content exclusive to the initial Japanese release. Survey so far says there isn't
BrokenBenny 4/1/2018 5:27 PM
Here's what GranPC says: Hey, thanks for getting in touch! I love TCRF and I find it about as addictive as TVTropes to just browse around. :) I don't really remember everything very clearly - and we didn't even use any sort of real source control for Stanley Parable game assets, so it's very hard to find older versions/figure out when these assets were introduced. On the other hand we did use Subversion for assets for TBG so it would be technically possible to find old assets, although I'm not really sure it's worth spelunking through the repository to find old stuff at this point. Anyway, here's some answers to your more specific questions:

- Your guess is about as good as mine for Mr. Tippy. I think it was

used in theater instead of the bouncing cones but I don't really know for sure.

- There's a lot of unused sounds, if you give me a path or something

I can try and figure out where it came from.

- Probably most of the extra files inside filecache.bin are dev tests
- and most of the dev tests are probably me trying to get word

wrapping right. Word wrapping is hard!

- The 'leaked' backwards voice clip was an accident - we began working

on the game around 2 months before shipping Stanley Parable, and in the beginning we just ran the maps inside Stanley. There's a chance there's a small amount of code from Beginner's Guide in Stanley too. Cheers
Xkeeper 4/1/2018 5:40 PM
https://twitter.com/CuttingRoomWiki/status/980559129415528448
TheCuttingRoomFloor (@CuttingRoomWiki)
Air Fortress (FDS) prototype (finally) released! We used our one 4/1 joke on the logo, so this is actually totally serious. Read more: https://t.co/dYpfROCmOR Artice/download: https://t.co/xvslWFlNI4 https://t.co/dJFo4hhwAA
5:40 PM
finally
Video 4/1/2018 5:51 PM
Paulweeze71 4/1/2018 5:53 PM
I like that one
LarryLemmy 4/1/2018 6:01 PM
hehe
6:02 PM
Basing the site design on infamously bad games would be a good idea for next year
divingkxt 4/1/2018 6:04 PM
@BrokenBenny No SVN? No wonder they have difficulty finding any protos. (edited)
leilei 4/1/2018 6:06 PM
also a placeholder game page with nothing but Beta speculation on it should be the featured article (edited)
LarryLemmy 4/1/2018 6:09 PM
Also a page for Polybius
leilei 4/1/2018 6:09 PM
maybe it can be a final fantssy 6 beta with palate changes like a Beta Tina being blonde (edited)
6:10 PM
and screenshots from snes9x......0.20
6:12 PM
and censorship changes like the !@#$% guy in narshe being uncensored in the Beta
6:13 PM
and Sabin having an unused blitz that resembles the STF ManeuverSTFU
Neko May 4/1/2018 6:14 PM
An announcement of a new rekease of ZSNES
Paulweeze71 4/1/2018 6:14 PM
Someone put tcrf on this one...
divingkxt 4/1/2018 6:17 PM
http://hiddenpalace.org/Dark_Empire_(Prototype)
Dark Empire (Prototype)
6:17 PM
Here's the game in question by the way.
6:17 PM
It's very early in development, so beware.
Paulweeze71 4/1/2018 6:27 PM
I know, I released it
Nex 4/1/2018 6:27 PM
a very impressive thing considering it was done on GBA
Paulweeze71 4/1/2018 6:27 PM
divingkxt 4/1/2018 6:30 PM
I did notice this though "LOVEHINAADVAALHJ9N"
6:31 PM
It originally had Love Hina Advance on it.
Paulweeze71 4/1/2018 6:31 PM
Interesting
divingkxt 4/1/2018 6:34 PM
The text begins at 0x10030.
6:34 PM
Shift-JIS encoded.
6:35 PM
ＳＨＩＦＴ　ＪＩＳ　以外の文字コードです。<- This character code is outside Shift-JIS.
6:36 PM
スタックの容量を越えました <- The stack has overflown.
6:36 PM
復帰できません <- Unable to recover.
6:36 PM
未対応のコマンドです。<- This is an unsupported command.
6:38 PM
For the items, you have 王家の剣 (Royal Sword), 干し肉 (Dried Meat), 大型の鎌 (Large Scythe), 肉切り包丁 (Meat Cutting Knife), 人斬り包丁 (Man Slashing Knife), and 青銅の剣 (Bronze Sword).
6:40 PM
The descriptions are all temporary (i.e. 高いところもラクラクだぁね。(Even places high up are so happy.)) (edited)
6:43 PM
There's some more text at 0x1E60B0.
6:43 PM
Slightly corrupted maybe, but still readable.
6:44 PM
0x1E6B00 onward is just generic padding.
6:45 PM
L and R zooms in and out.
6:46 PM
Pressing B turns you into a helicopter.
6:47 PM
To play as the helicopter, use left and right to turn and A to propel forward.
6:49 PM
Note that this only works in the overworld.
6:49 PM
It does nothing once inside the dungeons.
6:53 PM
Oooh...
6:53 PM
@Paulweeze71 Does this look familiar?
6:54 PM
"四つ目の嬰児。" <- The fourth infant.
Paulweeze71 4/1/2018 6:55 PM
Don't recall that
divingkxt 4/1/2018 6:56 PM
"闇もて世を成す。" <- Not sure how to translate this, possibly "A world full of darkness forms."
6:57 PM
Oh, "四つ目の嬰児" is used in the placeholder intro.
punk7890 4/1/2018 6:58 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/980579702560604160
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found even more unused goodies in Xenosaga Episode III https://t.co/2YVILmEH52 There is a lot of unused material for the mini game, HaKox. There is a total of 10 unused button cheats + debug cheats, and 30 unused levels! 10 of which are test m...
6:58 PM
divingkxt 4/1/2018 7:00 PM
The strings are stored in the opposite order they appear for some reason.
7:02 PM
Also, random NPC pictures from various media.
7:02 PM
Is that Inigo Montoya on the bottom-left?
7:04 PM
The third picture is Princess Isabelle from Braveheart. (edited)
7:06 PM
No idea about the other two (the blonde man and the right-most woman.)
7:08 PM
Also, Swiss Guard?
iriez 4/1/2018 7:31 PM
just found your site with all of the fabulous documentation on the snes test cart stuff.
7:31 PM
Really thorough!
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divingkxt 4/1/2018 7:50 PM
Thank you.
Neko May 4/1/2018 7:58 PM
It's a massive community effort. The best way to thank us is to join in, and donate/pledge to our Patreon. :3
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/1/2018 7:59 PM
tape 4/1/2018 8:01 PM
well damn, i thought my treasure hunt had lead me somewhere but this editor only works with ecco 1
8:02 PM
so i'm going to assume that the ecco 2-compatible version was never publicly distributed
8:02 PM
dang it epicenter and your monopoly on ecco prototype documentation (edited)
divingkxt 4/1/2018 8:08 PM
That's what happens when only one person does all the documentation.
8:08 PM
They could drop dead the next day and no one would know what to do.
8:09 PM
BTW, epicenter is also the reason that more Ecco prototypes didn't get released.
8:10 PM
He wanted drx to hold them back until they were properly documented.
8:10 PM
And now...there is jack diddly squat on so many of the prototypes.
8:12 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/*/%20http://www.ecco-darksea.us//*
8:12 PM
And...there's nothing.
8:12 PM
There are pages galore listed, but nothing in those pages.
8:13 PM
There is this though, http://fuckyeahecco.tumblr.com/
Fuck Yeah, Ecco!
Celebrating SEGA and Novotrade/Appaloosa's bizarre and beautiful Ecco the Dolphin series, with an...
tape 4/1/2018 8:13 PM
and i'm still on the eel hunt
8:15 PM
which was another thing on darksea that never got brought over when the site was redesigned
8:15 PM
don't remember if the weird eel graphics were unused in the e2a proto or in the final
8:22 PM
i gotta wonder what compression format ecco 2 uses
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/1/2018 8:32 PM
@someone (◕‿◕✿) (TheHackStack)
Nex 4/1/2018 9:01 PM
@someone (∩ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)⊃━✿✿✿✿✿✿ (mdta)
ゲームボーイ64 4/1/2018 9:01 PM
pretty colors
Nex 4/1/2018 9:02 PM
9:02 PM
not as pretty as a copy of skyrim for the switch
Deleted User 4/1/2018 9:11 PM
shoutout to whoever put the Cocaine Cowboy and Decadence builds of Hotline Miami on Mega on TCRF
Deleted User 4/1/2018 9:20 PM
Hey, somebody I know found something interesting in Meteos Wars (an XBox 360 title released in 2008); an unused planet.
9:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDYJZ_ZMvMs
Quantum Z
Meteos Wars - Unknown Gameplay (Cut Planet)
9:26 PM
The planet shown here is, as the video name states, called Unknown. Usually it's just used as a placeholder image in the game's Mission Mode, covering the planet you unlock after completing a successful run. Once you unlock every planet, Unknown never appears again. For some reason, Unknown had a complete set of physics, native animations, and even a planet. He did this by using Xenia, though I don't have the details on how.
9:28 PM
(Also, is this the right place to post this? Did I do something wrong? I'm pretty new to this server, even with lurking.)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/1/2018 9:41 PM
You're fine, my dude
9:42 PM
https://tcrf.net/SpongeBob_SquarePants:_Revenge_of_the_Flying_Dutchman_(GameCube)/Unused_Animations
Unused Animations
9:42 PM
added a thing
Deleted User 4/1/2018 9:46 PM
Alright, that's cool. He got a texture to load for Unknown, too, after changing the graphic settings.
divingkxt 4/1/2018 10:02 PM
divingkxt 4/2/2018 12:58 AM
@someone ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ (augitesoul)
punk7890 4/2/2018 1:01 AM
@someone (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ (iodbc) hi
1:01 AM
heh
alan 4/2/2018 1:12 AM
sweet i found unused music in the we love katamari demo
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 1:15 AM
funnily enough
1:15 AM
the we love katamari demo that is a part of namco trans|mission 3.2
1:15 AM
can be played on it's own (edited)
1:15 AM
it's own iso, if you will
alan 4/2/2018 1:16 AM
should've known earlier
1:16 AM
cleaned out a lot of my hdd just for it
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 1:17 AM
the only things you need are CDVDGEN, cdmage, and ps2imgfix
/dev/urandom 4/2/2018 3:34 AM
aww, this @someone (⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄) (eezzzz) thing is so awesome
3:34 AM
too bad it's an april fools thing, which means it's gonna get removed tomorrow
gingerbeardman 4/2/2018 8:09 AM
Hi, could somebody please undelete a page for me? I have found something in this game worthy of note - thanks! https://tcrf.net/New_3D_Golf_Simulation:_Waialae_no_Kiseki (edited)
punk7890 4/2/2018 8:27 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/980782890819641344
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in AI Shogi 3 (N64) https://t.co/aEGHyFRmMa If you are familiar with Bomberman Hero's debug menu, this is, most curiously, basically the same debug menu. It is also found in Densha de GO! 64. The enemies from Bomberman Hero ...
8:27 AM
8:27 AM
Complete with Bomberman Hero enemies.
Deleted User 4/2/2018 9:11 AM
@gingerbeardman done
1
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/2/2018 10:22 AM
Some simple series developed by tamsoft has debug menu text. but I do not yet know how to active it.
Incineroar 4/2/2018 10:25 AM
I read up that some of the Crash Bandicoot GBA games have some kind of audio debugger I'm working to eventually find
10:25 AM
I know they have an error handler so
10:25 AM
there's probably more where that came from
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 10:26 AM
i played the shit out of n tranced when i was little lmao
10:26 AM
I'm surprised on how good the audio quality is for a GBA game
Incineroar 4/2/2018 10:27 AM
that's the first GBA game I had
10:27 AM
and then I got The Huge Adventure
10:27 AM
both of those are a ton of fun
10:27 AM
i had 101% on my save file in N-Tranced
10:28 AM
and there was only one time trial relic I couldn't get
DevEd 4/2/2018 10:30 AM
i briefly considered moving my user page to "DevEd on wheels" yesterday for April Fools
10:30 AM
not sure if i'm glad I didn't
Deleted User 4/2/2018 10:30 AM
lol
10:30 AM
whole site moved to TCRF on wheels
Incineroar 4/2/2018 11:05 AM
it was kinda funny, someone on twitter asked me about dumping GAX music last night
Xkeeper 4/2/2018 12:28 PM
i still really like the 2017 afd prank
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:32 PM
Did you fill the site with old 2004 ads?
12:32 PM
Like, rub the Buddha's belly and win a prize, that sort of stuff?
12:33 PM
Old ads were magical
12:33 PM
Too bad all that stuff is just...lost in oblivion
12:34 PM
No one cares about ad preservation :(
tape 4/2/2018 12:34 PM
those "free smiley" ads that screamed "SAY SOMETHING" when moused over
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:34 PM
Hell yeah
Dezent 4/2/2018 12:34 PM
Or "free screensaver!"
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:34 PM
FREE FLASH GAMES pictures of SM64DS and GTA:VC
tape 4/2/2018 12:34 PM
i never dared click on them because by then i knew they were just vehicles for injecting malware into your thing
Δndrew P. 4/2/2018 12:35 PM
Oh yeah those ads
tape 4/2/2018 12:35 PM
and fake download link ads
12:35 PM
of course once you grab an ad blocker you never go back
Dezent 4/2/2018 12:36 PM
Yeah I can't browse the internet anymore without uBlock Origin and Noscript
tape 4/2/2018 12:36 PM
except on those very, very rare cases of a website that actually vets its ads so that virus shit doesn't sneak through
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:36 PM
I hope an AI has existed that just creates ads automatically
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:36 PM
download a free ipad
Dezent 4/2/2018 12:36 PM
12:36 PM
You wouldn't
tape 4/2/2018 12:36 PM
hell yeahs i'll taser that gnome
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:36 PM
Machine taught ad creator
Δndrew P. 4/2/2018 12:36 PM
My old laptop used to have so much adware
tape 4/2/2018 12:37 PM
at this point ads probably ARE automatically made by bots
Δndrew P. 4/2/2018 12:37 PM
Like, i couldnt go on a site that has http cuz if i would go on one, the whole computer starts spazzing with adware and viruses
tape 4/2/2018 12:37 PM
how a lot of them are just nonsense with headlines and seemingly random images attached
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:38 PM
What happens if you grab two AIs, and you feed one an unfiltered website experience, and the other an adblocked experience?
12:38 PM
How differently would they behave?
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:39 PM
they’d become sentient and destroy us
tape 4/2/2018 12:39 PM
it'll all culminate in spiderman finger family videos either way
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:39 PM
spiderman? I thought it was mario that had the finger family videos
12:39 PM
Oh god
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:39 PM
everything is finger family
tape 4/2/2018 12:40 PM
those literally Are bots iirc
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:40 PM
Feed an AI with nothing but weird YT "kids" videos
tape 4/2/2018 12:40 PM
it just has a bunch of premade assets and churns out slightly different ones to get youtube ad money
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:40 PM
Youtube sucks
tape 4/2/2018 12:42 PM
my favorite is, of course, the one where venom kills elsa, steals a dog, kicks spiderman off his motorcycle and shanks him in the ass
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:42 PM
wtf
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:42 PM
Yup
tape 4/2/2018 12:43 PM
or the one where it's literally that but venom is replaced with the joker and elsa is wearing different clothes
12:43 PM
followed by the venom one again, all in the same video
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:43 PM
I fear for the generations that came after mine
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:43 PM
I just noticed your avatar is the small bird from kirby’s dream land 3 @MusashiAA (edited)
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:43 PM
Pitch
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:43 PM
yea
tape 4/2/2018 12:43 PM
rip pitch, he was taxidermied into a bucket
12:44 PM
what a way to go huh
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:44 PM
after the dreamland they all were tacidermied
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:44 PM
I think its from an unused image found on this site
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:44 PM
looks like he just does not give a shit
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:44 PM
A buddy of mine has Ribbon from that same image
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 12:44 PM
https://youtu.be/2Qb_7Skeav8 i think gumball parodied those weird kids videos
first last
The Amazing World of Gumball - 32 Donkeys Playing on a Sled
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:45 PM
Gumball is a blessing in this day and age of shitty Cal Arts cartoons
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:46 PM
i don’t bother with any new kids’ cartoons anymore
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:46 PM
Even though the main characters ARE in Cal Arts style
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 12:46 PM
@ゲームボーイ64 gumball is great dude, you should definitely check it out :P
12:46 PM
we should probably take this to #deleted-channel
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 12:47 PM
i don’t want to though (edited)
Xkeeper 4/2/2018 12:52 PM
@MusashiAA#8310 https://tcrf.net/aprilfools2017.html
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:53 PM
Exclusive Excavations
12:53 PM
I feel like I'm in Geocities
Xkeeper 4/2/2018 12:54 PM
http://bmf.rustedmagick.com/
12:54 PM
(other sections > tcrf)
tape 4/2/2018 12:55 PM
Exclusive Excavations sounds like a world in a kirby game
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 12:56 PM
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:56 PM
Top-Secret Codes
tape 4/2/2018 12:58 PM
it'd be great if the pikmin link lead to a section talking about that cool new game that hasn't been released yet: Pikmin 2
12:58 PM
in true ancient fansite fashion
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 12:58 PM
it needs more gifs
tape 4/2/2018 12:58 PM
bonus points if it doesn't have any official names for the enemies in the screenshots and just calls them nonsense like "Sausageborb"
12:59 PM
and here i am vagueing a dead fansite from my childhood
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 12:59 PM
I think I'm missing some stuff for using my phone browser to see that site
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 1:00 PM
http://www.netanimations.net/index.htm here's a cool place to get all those gifs for your fansite
Moving internet clip art animations and Animated gifs
Internet clip art animations and Animated gifs from forum, search and web page sources
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 1:00 PM
Man, I used to have a really shitty premade site
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 1:00 PM
http://www.netanimations.net/dancinghouse-s.gif wtf?
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 1:01 PM
Dance floor
tape 4/2/2018 1:02 PM
http://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc6to8YTTN1rg7c0qo4_r2_250.gif only vintage halloween gifs for me
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 1:04 PM
ahhh thats 2spooky4me!1!1!
Dezent 4/2/2018 1:06 PM
delet this, too spooky
1:06 PM
Lewys (NUTLORD) 4/2/2018 2:04 PM
Just had a brief simmer of Smash Wii U's music files... it has 2 tracks which are exclusive to the Japanese version in the European files (the Japan exclusive Ashley Theme Ver. 2, and the Japanese version of Lost in Thoughts All Alone) but I don't think either of them really merit being put onto the page
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/2/2018 3:19 PM
i have so much stuff i have to update on patapon 1/2/3 (edited)
3:19 PM
but its too much info to add
3:19 PM
i dont know where to start
Paulweeze71 4/2/2018 4:00 PM
Gotta love when you are overwhelmed with info
iriez 4/2/2018 4:03 PM
Curious if anyone here can point me to a good marketplace or anyone they know selling test cartridges? I have a complete test cart set minus the super scope snes test cart and the snes v2 counter tester. Been hunting for years for those 2 pieces but not any have shown up in the last 2 years. Well, a v2 showed up the other day but this dude wants 5k for something worth 1k
Paulweeze71 4/2/2018 4:37 PM
Haven't come across test carts, typically protos and boards. Will keep an eye out for ya
Incineroar 4/2/2018 4:59 PM
kinda wanna get that Burn-In Test Cart for the SNES
old acc! inactive 4/2/2018 5:13 PM
>it has 2 tracks which are exclusive to the Japanese version in the European files
5:13 PM
they're in the US version too
5:13 PM
hell they even have descriptions
5:13 PM
(at least, ashley's does)
Smoke 4/2/2018 9:08 PM
Deleted User 4/2/2018 9:10 PM
:I
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 9:16 PM
LuL
9:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0gu06f4lMo
Brian
These Are the Things We Do
9:17 PM
what
divingkxt 4/2/2018 9:45 PM
@gingerbeardman Do you know if there's anything unused in Waialae no Kiseki?
9:51 PM
Also, wow these menus ARE bad.
9:51 PM
OK, so I'm entering the name in for the people.
9:51 PM
Problem is, once I'm done, I go back and see that the member I've created is gone.
9:51 PM
With no reason explained.
9:56 PM
I've tried for at least an hour with no luck.
old acc! inactive 4/2/2018 10:09 PM
so where does "YOU NEED MORE CARROTS" come from in TCRF's logo
karmic 4/2/2018 10:10 PM
bugs bunny's birthday blowout
old acc! inactive 4/2/2018 10:10 PM
figured
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 10:12 PM
tape 4/2/2018 10:13 PM
i can only ever associate that game with the avgn episode of it
10:14 PM
help
ゲームボーイ64 4/2/2018 10:16 PM
no
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 10:23 PM
Mike Matei's first appearance
10:24 PM
and his ear grinding what's up doc (edited)
divingkxt 4/2/2018 10:24 PM
OH DERP Had SRAM off.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/2/2018 10:24 PM
http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Bugs_Bunny_(Angry_Video_Game_Nerd)
Bugs Bunny (Angry Video Game Nerd)
Bugs Bunny (also known as The Damn Bunny) is the main antagonist of a pair of Angry Video Game Nerd episodes where the Nerd reviews a family of games about the iconic cartoon character. He is one...
MusashiAA 4/2/2018 10:24 PM
The lore
10:25 PM
Alias The Damn Bunny Piece of Shit
divingkxt 4/2/2018 10:32 PM
@gingerbeardman Not sure how much this help, but I do notice that the devs marked "** stmpdat ", "workend" and "work" in the ROM.
10:36 PM
Also, the US title is in the ROM, despite no US release coming to be.
10:36 PM
Makes me wonder if the graphics are there.
divingkxt 4/2/2018 10:52 PM
The messages don't appear to be, alas.
Cooper 4/2/2018 11:00 PM
Greetings, citizens. I come in peace.
divingkxt 4/2/2018 11:10 PM
Greetings.
11:11 PM
And trying to dig into some game myself.
Cooper 4/2/2018 11:45 PM
I have some unused content I can share right now actually.
11:46 PM
Back in the early 2000's I loved to play this Java game called RealSpace 2: Emperor's Revenge on Miniclip. (edited)
11:47 PM
The music consisted of 3 .au sound files playing in a certain order.
11:48 PM
But when I searched thorough wayback machine, I found one it didn't use.
11:48 PM
11:48 PM
It's this without the percussion
11:49 PM
These are the other two that make up the music.
11:49 PM
11:50 PM
Order goes music1 three times, music3 two times, music4 two times, music3 two times again, music4 two times again, then repeat. (edited)
11:51 PM
I still have the original .au files if you want them, I just converted them to wavs since they're more commonly used.
divingkxt 4/2/2018 11:53 PM
https://www.miniclip.com/games/real-space-2/en/
Real Space 2 - A free Shoot 'Em Up Game
Protect your ships from attack by the evil Terrans.
11:53 PM
Surprisingly, it seems to be up still.
11:53 PM
Granted, probably unstable.
Cooper 4/2/2018 11:54 PM
Worst that happens is music gets cut off.
11:54 PM
But it still works since I tested it.
11:54 PM
Granted my modern system made the controls a little wonky.
divingkxt 4/2/2018 11:54 PM
Once a title screen capture in PNG format is captured, I can make a quick page.
Cooper 4/2/2018 11:56 PM
Thanks. I'll see what I can do.
12:01 AM
@divingkxt will this do?
divingkxt 4/3/2018 12:04 AM
Sure.
12:04 AM
Also, I can't run the game because I run Chrome and Firefox.
Cooper 4/3/2018 12:04 AM
I run it using Internet Explorer. (edited)
12:04 AM
And with the site on the Java security exceptions list.
Smoke 4/3/2018 12:16 AM
it's not working for me even if i have the site on the exceptions list
Cooper 4/3/2018 12:16 AM
What browser are you using?
Smoke 4/3/2018 12:17 AM
internet explorer
Cooper 4/3/2018 12:17 AM
Do you get a message asking if you want to run it?
Smoke 4/3/2018 12:18 AM
yes
12:18 AM
nvm (edited)
12:18 AM
it decided to work
Cooper 4/3/2018 12:18 AM
Splendid
12:19 AM
I know the music files cut-off halfway when playing in this game but that's only because modern pcs and all that jazz.
Smoke 4/3/2018 12:20 AM
there's a missing sound file it tires to load: "fire5.au"
Cooper 4/3/2018 12:21 AM
Strange.
12:21 AM
Web archive only picked up 3.
Smoke 4/3/2018 12:22 AM
Cooper 4/3/2018 12:23 AM
That's all of them.
12:23 AM
music2.au is the unused one.
Smoke 4/3/2018 12:26 AM
"Cheater: Kill Friend"
divingkxt 4/3/2018 12:41 AM
@Cooper https://tcrf.net/RealSpace_2:_Emperor%27s_Revenge
RealSpace_2:_Emperor%27s_Revenge
Cooper 4/3/2018 12:42 AM
Excellent!
12:42 AM
Thank you very much.
Neko May 4/3/2018 12:43 AM
@divingkxt: What do you mean by "unsupported server"?
12:44 AM
MediaWiki is F/OSS. It should run on anything.
divingkxt 4/3/2018 12:44 AM
Yes, but we're using an old server run by Linode if memory recalls.
12:44 AM
i.e. Not enough hard disk space.
Neko May 4/3/2018 12:45 AM
Physical dedicated server?
divingkxt 4/3/2018 12:45 AM
I believe so.
12:45 AM
Xkeeper knows more about this than I do.
Neko May 4/3/2018 12:45 AM
nods
divingkxt 4/3/2018 12:46 AM
Also, the version of MediaWiki used is old.
12:46 AM
Newer than Wikia, but still.
Neko May 4/3/2018 12:46 AM
Latest in Portage is 1.27.3
divingkxt 4/3/2018 12:47 AM
1.25 is not supported officially.
12:47 AM
And that's the version we have.
12:47 AM
The best suggestion is probably to wait for 1.31, but that's not until June at least.
12:48 AM
There's a reason devs go for the LTS releases.
Neko May 4/3/2018 12:49 AM
Usually Portage has the latest. Not sure why it's so far behind.
divingkxt 4/3/2018 12:50 AM
1.27.x is an LTS release.
12:50 AM
That's why.
Neko May 4/3/2018 12:51 AM
Gentoo doesn't do LTS.
12:51 AM
I mean, you CAN lock Portage down to older versions
12:51 AM
Ones deemed "stable"
12:51 AM
But I've explicitly bypassed that
divingkxt 4/3/2018 12:52 AM
Now that I think about it, that may be a huge reason Windows XP lasted so long.
12:53 AM
Oh sure, it's got more holes worn in it, but compared to Vista or 7, it did have low-ish system requirements.
12:56 AM
Heck, Windows Embedded Standard 2009 and Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 are both supported until 2019.
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:03 AM
Part of the reason is that they take less than 1 Gig of Hard Disk space out of the box. (edited)
1:03 AM
Newer versions need at least 16.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:03 AM
xp rtm required 2.2gb installed iirc (edited)
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:04 AM
1.5GB of free drive space.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:05 AM
xp's really more around for its 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' factor
1:06 AM
an adage that doesn't exist much in the Free Software world
1:06 AM
xp's only looking unattractive security and modern hardware support-wise
1:06 AM
less mainline security fixes (well some emergency fixes like the wannacry did happen but that's rare)
1:07 AM
and the big companies don't support' it, as well as newer linkers/compilers suddenly dropping compatibility with it because of some silly reason
1:07 AM
like Python 3.6, gcc, etc
1:08 AM
ironically following microsoft and apple by example
1:09 AM
and the thing about upgrading software is, well... hardware can make that a non-option
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:10 AM
Because hardware requirements can suddenly go up and it isn't like you can reprogram it to have more capabilities than it can support (usually).
leilei 4/3/2018 1:12 AM
like web browsers updating to versions automatically that would break itself
1:13 AM
and the compulsion to artificially break sites on slightly old browsers to coax them to update. like github
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:13 AM
Or Discord.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:14 AM
i have to fake a newer browser agent to edit comments, even go to next pages or use combo boxes (edited)
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:15 AM
Ew.
1:15 AM
Really hate that about web pages now.
1:16 AM
"Oh you have a slightly older than supported web browser? Go screw yourself."
1:16 AM
And considering I know of several people who still use W7, that is going to be a real issue in the future.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:16 AM
tvtropes has a undisableable script of some kind that whites itself out after a second for some odd reason on older browsers
1:16 AM
I still use w7 (edited)
1:17 AM
and i don't see w10 upgrading in the plans
1:17 AM
nor do i see linux in my future currently
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:18 AM
Flash is also dying fast.
1:18 AM
I mean, many of the major MMO games are already dead.
Cooper 4/3/2018 1:18 AM
Lots of platforms are dying out it seems.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:19 AM
computer world is succumbing to the iphone note 7s
Cooper 4/3/2018 1:19 AM
Adobe Director games died out mid-2000s I recall.
1:19 AM
aka Shockwave
leilei 4/3/2018 1:19 AM
yeah i remember when there was a bit of a shockwave 3d push in 2000
1:19 AM
3dgroove.com iirc
1:19 AM
alien x iirc
Cooper 4/3/2018 1:20 AM
Right.
1:20 AM
Director was marketed as a more advanced version of Flash. (edited)
leilei 4/3/2018 1:20 AM
director was before flash
1:20 AM
way way 'WAY before flash
Cooper 4/3/2018 1:20 AM
Right.
1:20 AM
What I meant was Flash was marketed as Director Lite.
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:21 AM
During the early to mid 2000's, I guess.
Cooper 4/3/2018 1:21 AM
Director could import flash animations too.
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:21 AM
To be honest, there's only so much archival work that can be done.
1:22 AM
Because of people too ignorant/unaware of how quickly crap can vanish.
1:22 AM
I actually played that Pokemon Movie 2000 web game back in 2004.
1:22 AM
Long after it supposedly vanished.
Cooper 4/3/2018 1:22 AM
Yeah.
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:22 AM
Man, I wish I could have backed it up somehow.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:23 AM
i haven't played much flash games beyond H*R
1:23 AM
yeti sports, n and isaac p much
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:23 AM
To be honest, you could recreate it in Unity or Unreal Engine easily.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:23 AM
don't know if anyone saved all those old cn/toonami games
Cooper 4/3/2018 1:23 AM
Trapped in Hyperspace's kaput.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:24 AM
like, after the initial director games i mean
1:24 AM
the 200xish ones
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:25 AM
Well, several of them relied on Shockwave.
1:25 AM
And even games like that Ed Edd Eddy spinner game are hard to find.
1:26 AM
http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/games/eds/spinstadium/index.html
Spin Stadium
Compete as your favorite Ed and knock other tops out of the game!
Cooper 4/3/2018 1:26 AM
I save them to my computer in case they're ever lost.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:28 AM
there's also vitalize games to look out for
1:28 AM
clickteam's klikky attempt at something shockwave-ish for the web with their own plugin (edited)
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:29 AM
I thought that was Jamagic.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:29 AM
nah
1:29 AM
jamagic is a flopped 3d clusterfuck of poor design (edited)
1:29 AM
i still have a beta of it somewhere still
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:30 AM
http://www.clickteam.com/vitalize4/download.html Holy crap, it's still up.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:30 AM
i only really like it for this gem
Neko May 4/3/2018 1:30 AM
lol
leilei 4/3/2018 1:31 AM
Updated versions of click & create and games factory could export to vitalize
Neko May 4/3/2018 1:38 AM
How about ancient Java games from 1996?
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:40 AM
Most of them are MIA.
1:40 AM
Much of the Java applets I found were largely from educational websites.
1:40 AM
And designed for Windows 9x at that.
Neko May 4/3/2018 1:44 AM
THEORETICALLY they should still run
1:45 AM
The J2ME stuff is a lot more complicated
leilei 4/3/2018 1:47 AM
i already tried to save them back in 96 for local play. but netscape onyl saved currently loaded htm files (edited)
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:48 AM
Yeah...because the actual Java files are stored on the server side.
1:48 AM
Not that many would know back in 96.
leilei 4/3/2018 1:48 AM
yeah i never realized i'd have to hunt for the jars
1:50 AM
think the only jars i did save then were novelty web page effects
divingkxt 4/3/2018 1:52 AM
Similarly, I saw a bunch of Shockwave games as a kid.
1:52 AM
They're gone.
1:52 AM
All of them.
1:53 AM
For a similar reason, a lot of the early Flash stuff is gone. (edited)
divingkxt 4/3/2018 2:02 AM
Oh, and speaking of lost shit.
2:02 AM
https://lostmediawiki.com/Angry_Kid_(lost_pilot_of_claymation_shorts;_1995)
2:03 AM
They deleted this without any links to the found stuff.
leilei 4/3/2018 2:03 AM
it is a mystery
Engikirby 4/3/2018 2:48 AM
https://tcrf.net/images/4/41/SuperMarioWorld2ControllerError.png fuck you I do what I want
leilei 4/3/2018 2:58 AM
i suggest you listen to mike haggar
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Deleted User 4/3/2018 5:26 AM
thats creative
5:27 AM
unlike all the other super scope error messages ive seen
SophinoX 4/3/2018 5:46 AM
Hey so I got some stuff from a Kirby Star Allies glitch?
5:47 AM
It allows you to play as kirby in guest star mode
5:47 AM
Uh I got a few screenshots but the clips showing other effects is on my twitter (they're minor)
5:48 AM
5:48 AM
these are two screenshots I got from the menu
5:48 AM
the japanese says "missing" or something like that
5:49 AM
Weirdly enough the logos for abilities exist
5:49 AM
https://twitter.com/SophinoXYZ/status/981105265775792128?s=19
SophinoX (@SophinoXYZ)
Another side effect is the life icon changing #KirbyStarAllies #NintendoSwitch https://t.co/GlxroNWGBU
5:49 AM
also this minor thing
5:51 AM
The menu for friend abilities work (like circle)
5:54 AM
So do you think this is like testing stuff or just completely a glitch?
5:54 AM
I think it's similar to a debug mode of sorts
SophinoX 4/3/2018 6:09 AM
this one is especially weird because why would the logo exist?
LuigiBlood 4/3/2018 6:31 AM
I think it's just called Text
6:31 AM
This is rendered dynamically
SophinoX 4/3/2018 6:49 AM
ye
punk7890 4/3/2018 7:23 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/981129499885453312
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found an unused cheat system in Aidyn Chronicles: The First Mage (N64) https://t.co/84SleiTzTT You can enable big head mode, and super tiny mode with these cheats, among others. Humorously, there is two cheats that ultimately do nothing but di...
7:24 AM
7:24 AM
This game has two amusing, unused cheats (info in second tweet). (edited)
Δndrew P. 4/3/2018 7:37 AM
dolphin
SophinoX 4/3/2018 7:52 AM
Hey so another thing I noticed is that guest star kirby there's no ability puzzles
Laenthor 4/3/2018 8:18 AM
There are a few but they're rare. I did a run with the suplex ability and it was needed to break some rocks in some rooms
SirenaBeach 4/3/2018 8:28 AM
to the admins about the SMS Booklet Oddities: delete the files but rename the page to a subpage of the Prelease page
SophinoX 4/3/2018 8:29 AM
So I beat guest star kirby
SirenaBeach 4/3/2018 8:29 AM
@sunn I and others have noticed it but forgot about it (again)
8:36 AM
so I'm guessing one can go ahead and rename the page to a prerelease subpage?
Laenthor 4/3/2018 8:50 AM
Banana Mania
ThrowingOutRoX 4/3/2018 8:53 AM
How do I open .tex files
8:56 AM
Oh wait nvrmind
SirenaBeach 4/3/2018 9:00 AM
Ah, okay.
Laenthor 4/3/2018 9:01 AM
You guys are the SMS research bros XD
SirenaBeach 4/3/2018 9:09 AM
more like bro and sis
SirenaBeach 4/3/2018 9:17 AM
also, by description do you mean the subpage thumb, the observations on the page, or both?
Altazimuth 4/3/2018 9:25 AM
If I find a dead link and the page linked to is on the wayback machine, should I link to that instead?
PinkMage 4/3/2018 9:27 AM
Hey guys, the PAR codes on https://tcrf.net/Super_Bomberman_4 (7F202B:0A and 7F202B:0B) bruteforces the game to access the extra stages, changing the actual stage on RAM to the extra stage. This PAR code (7F202D:0C) enable all the stages to select, not bruteforcing the actual stage. Just an info.
Super Bomberman 4
Laenthor 4/3/2018 9:27 AM
Yeah that seems like the best solution. Either that or you screenshot every page
Altazimuth 4/3/2018 9:28 AM
For reference the link that the text "interview" leads to on this page. https://tcrf.net/Kingsley%27s_Adventure#The_Refrigerator The page on the wayback https://web.archive.org/web/20140905021356/http://www.kingsleys-adventure.com/development/page6.html
Laenthor 4/3/2018 9:41 AM
yeah that seems fine enough
9:41 AM
Although I'm not really the judge of that
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 11:01 AM
Anyone here know where Subdrag frequents? Had a couple questions for him.
darkwitchclaire 4/3/2018 11:38 AM
https://twitter.com/biggestsonicfan/status/980976558822182912
Otaku Chan (@biggestsonicfan)
After 11 years, "Sonic the Fighters" finally ready to spill some secrets with debug mode! Exhaustive documentation soon. @KoriMaru @haoLink @CuttingRoomWiki
Laenthor 4/3/2018 11:51 AM
Oooo, interested
Stewie1.0 4/3/2018 12:46 PM
@SophinoX#8373 Does the glitch still work after the update?
tape 4/3/2018 12:47 PM
i can confirm that guest star kirby still works
12:47 PM
you just have to not have a run currently in progress because the continue button covers up the spot where you have to touch
12:48 PM
probably because the glitch is selecting to continue a run that doesn't actually exist and so defaults to kirby, maybe
Laenthor 4/3/2018 12:57 PM
That's an incomplete animation alright XD
12:59 PM
Every student in the game uses the same animation template so in a way that's both less and more work
Laenthor 4/3/2018 1:34 PM
Oh...
Nex 4/3/2018 1:34 PM
she looks not okay
Incineroar 4/3/2018 1:46 PM
she looks a little disgruntled
Deleted 4/3/2018 1:51 PM
which game is that @Laenthor
Laenthor 4/3/2018 1:51 PM
harry potter and the chamber of secrets
Deleted 4/3/2018 1:51 PM
yeah but its not the better one from GCN
1:51 PM
its the shitty PC one
1:52 PM
so im not surprised
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 1:55 PM
The NGC used the same models afaik
Laenthor 4/3/2018 1:56 PM
No it didn't
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 1:56 PM
huh ok
Laenthor 4/3/2018 1:56 PM
The console versions look much better, but the gameplay is way better on pc imo
LarryLemmy 4/3/2018 4:30 PM
Mentioned this a few weeks back and only just got around to making a sandbox, but here are a load of irrelevant videos stored in the Windows version of Math Blaster: In Search of Spot if anyone's interested. https://tcrf.net/User:LarryLemmy/Sandbox_2
Sandbox 2
4:30 PM
If anyone can find out if the source is another program they will receive my undying affection. It doesn't seem to be Microsoft Encarta.
Deleted User 4/3/2018 9:06 PM
Question, How can I make an account? (Sorry, if this is mentioned elsewhere and i'm an idiot ._.)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/3/2018 9:09 PM
registrations are disabled for the time being due to captcha stuff, but @Xkeeper can still manually make you an account
Xkeeper 4/3/2018 9:10 PM
message @Deleted User they'll help
Deleted User 4/3/2018 9:11 PM
Thanks!
9:11 PM
hi
9:12 PM
Hello
9:13 PM
can you send me a PM
Deleted User 4/3/2018 9:36 PM
trade?
9:37 PM
fair
9:37 PM
I just don't know why someone would want to trade prototype builds
9:37 PM
lol
Nex 4/3/2018 9:38 PM
I have seen it happening often but if it goes wrong you will know it heh
Deleted User 4/3/2018 9:41 PM
so is your goal to preserve two games at once
9:41 PM
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:41 PM
Deleted User 4/3/2018 9:41 PM
for personal or public preservation
9:43 PM
long word
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:43 PM
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Nex 4/3/2018 9:46 PM
do you have anything elder scrolls related
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 9:46 PM
AG has gone down the tubes thanks to the guy runnin the whole site
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Nex 4/3/2018 9:46 PM
ah ok
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:46 PM
Got a beta I'd be willing to trade...
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 9:47 PM
It’s essentially a slow burning dumpster right now
Nex 4/3/2018 9:47 PM
thx for checking
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:47 PM
why'd the oblivion betas get taken down?
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 9:47 PM
wow
9:47 PM
huh
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:48 PM
is your name legit Liu Scunt?
Nex 4/3/2018 9:48 PM
if AG is so good, why isn't there a AG 2?
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 9:48 PM
And ask @Nex for why OG is stagnant right now
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:48 PM
use a vm
9:48 PM
MUHAHAHAHAHA
Incineroar 4/3/2018 9:49 PM
@Deleted User I imagine if you can manage site data per-site, it's probably just a cookie
9:49 PM
iirc they run vBulletin and it's not exactly... secure
9:49 PM
unless they updated?
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:49 PM
Are you guys talking about ASSEMblerGames?
9:49 PM
huh
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:49 PM
Na they are xenforo
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/3/2018 9:49 PM
more like ASSemblergames
Incineroar 4/3/2018 9:49 PM
also they don't know that it's not 'beta' it's 'development build'
9:50 PM
(Unless explicitly stated)
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 9:51 PM
i know of a couple good guys
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:51 PM
Be careful about voicing your opinion...
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 9:51 PM
most of them are my friends
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:51 PM
That's the statement that got me banned
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 9:51 PM
#failpail
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:52 PM
It sparked the #FreePaul meme
Deleted User 4/3/2018 9:52 PM
Crow - Today at 21:43 Point is I collect shit, and either keep it for myself because I'm a greedy Jew, or I release it. maybe you got banned for antisemitism
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Nex 4/3/2018 9:52 PM
kev banned me for a edited rick and morty copypasta
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MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:52 PM
what iz wronk with da jewish peoples
Nex 4/3/2018 9:53 PM
not sure if its still up
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:53 PM
was it the "you have to have a high iq in order to understand rick and morty" copypasta?
Nex 4/3/2018 9:53 PM
yea but edited to fit him
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:53 PM
wow
9:53 PM
the admins sound like they have a large stick
9:54 PM
jammed firmly into their rectums
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 9:54 PM
and while everyone else was saying #freepaul
Nex 4/3/2018 9:54 PM
*admin
9:54 PM
theres only him left
ゲームボーイ64 4/3/2018 9:54 PM
i kept messing it up like what I had said above
9:54 PM
and kev’s ASSEMbler account
Nex 4/3/2018 9:55 PM
`To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Admin's bans. The bans are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of moderation most of the bans will go over a typical users head. There's also Admin's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from an dictatorship , for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these bans, to realize that they're not just fair- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike the bans truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the bans in Admin's existencial catchphrase "You're banned" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their browsers. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a AG tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.`
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/3/2018 9:55 PM
Nex 4/3/2018 9:55 PM
lmfao
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:55 PM
let's jam a POLE up his ass and mop the floor with him.
Nex 4/3/2018 9:55 PM
lmao
9:56 PM
gl trying
Deleted User 4/3/2018 9:56 PM
>anime avatar >constantly calling people jews >namecalling people as autistic
Nex 4/3/2018 9:56 PM
9:56 PM
takes popcorn
Deleted User 4/3/2018 9:56 PM
@divingkxt @Revenant @Xkeeper
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/3/2018 9:57 PM
ahem
Xkeeper 4/3/2018 9:57 PM
banned
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:57 PM
Your contributions don't allow you to behave like that... http://hiddenpalace.org/Paulweeze71
Paulweeze71
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:57 PM
oooh
9:57 PM
get rekt
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/3/2018 9:57 PM
guy seemed like an ass
Nex 4/3/2018 9:58 PM
get le epic 420 banned
divingkxt 4/3/2018 9:58 PM
Talk about an unhealthy obsession with Jews.
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:58 PM
Ahh so he was banned
divingkxt 4/3/2018 9:58 PM
To the point I changed his nickname to be in Hebrew. (edited)
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:58 PM
Seriously, what he was posting was garbage anyways
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/3/2018 9:58 PM
this reminds me of npzman
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:58 PM
woooooowwww
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:58 PM
Some people...
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 9:58 PM
crow is a bag of sunshine and dicks
Nex 4/3/2018 9:59 PM
galaxy in turmoil... isn't that relative new?
9:59 PM
idk
9:59 PM
ah no wait it isn't
9:59 PM
or... (edited)
Xkeeper 4/3/2018 9:59 PM
it's best to just flush turds. don't play with them
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Revenant 4/3/2018 9:59 PM
do not flush todd
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 9:59 PM
Talks about not wanting to trade AG builds, probably has AG builds to trade...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/3/2018 10:00 PM
Nex 4/3/2018 10:00 PM
@Paulweeze71 now wait a day for him to pop up on OG
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 10:00 PM
Not my problem anymore
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 10:00 PM
i want to find an old gh beta build and see if spanish castle magic has vocals (edited)
Nex 4/3/2018 10:00 PM
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 10:01 PM
granted
10:01 PM
GH1 and GH2's covers
10:01 PM
SUCK
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 10:22 PM
Did they use covers in 2? Been years since I played any of them
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 10:51 PM
yeah
10:52 PM
they used covers in 2
10:52 PM
they.. sort of stopped in 3
10:52 PM
there were like.. a few covers in 3
10:52 PM
and a few in GH aerosmith
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 10:59 PM
You learn sumthin' everyday
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 11:00 PM
I think they stopped and just used master recordings in.. world tour/
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 11:00 PM
I never played past 2
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 11:00 PM
you should play 3
11:00 PM
it's pretty good
Paulweeze71 4/3/2018 11:01 PM
Will keep that in mind
MysticSageJosh 4/3/2018 11:01 PM
according to wikipedia they did do stuff for World Tour
11:01 PM
but it's dlc
GerbilSoft 4/3/2018 11:58 PM
dammit
11:58 PM
i always miss the fun drama
11:59 PM
instead i was doing taxes :V
Deleted User 4/4/2018 12:00 AM
hi gerbilsoft
12:01 AM
you should go back to using instead of :V.
GerbilSoft 4/4/2018 12:01 AM
:v
Deleted User 4/4/2018 12:01 AM
:V is a little too Goony
12:02 AM
bring back "your mom drums". saxman cactus jokes. This is what i live for
Incineroar 4/4/2018 12:15 AM
divingkxt 4/4/2018 12:20 AM
Oh yeah, that reminds me. (edited)
12:21 AM
April 17 is the tax deadline for Americans.
Δndrew P. 4/4/2018 12:22 AM
every time my mom uses turbotax on her computer it always turns off or restarts by itself only when turbotax is running. Also she still has Windows Vista and never upgraded
divingkxt 4/4/2018 12:23 AM
Ouch.
Δndrew P. 4/4/2018 12:24 AM
Recently she got a new laptop which was the same exact samsung laptop that I got back in August 2016 and now she does almost all her work there so yeah
Hâlian (ping in replies) 4/4/2018 12:31 AM
I thought it was the 16th
Incineroar 4/4/2018 12:31 AM
throw linux on it and run turbotax via wine
cuba200611 4/4/2018 12:32 AM
To me, the traditional date is the 15th...
Incineroar 4/4/2018 12:32 AM
iirc in Canada it's the 30th
Δndrew P. 4/4/2018 12:37 AM
wine cannot even run VGMtoolbox for me
Incineroar 4/4/2018 12:41 AM
really?
12:44 AM
odd, i can't get it going either
12:45 AM
oh, here we go
12:45 AM
12:46 AM
i had to move all the files from /lib to where the executable was
12:46 AM
it's slow to load
ゲームボーイ64 4/4/2018 12:46 AM
cool background
Incineroar 4/4/2018 12:46 AM
but it works
12:47 AM
@ゲームボーイ64 thanks. iirc it's based on the manga but it's from a bootleg app
ゲームボーイ64 4/4/2018 12:49 AM
cool
Incineroar 4/4/2018 12:50 AM
here's the 1080p image, it was hard to find it
12:52 AM
@Δndrew P. yeah, move all the files in the lib folder to where vgmtoolbox.exe is located and it should eventually load up in Wine
12:52 AM
idk if it'll crash though, but it's worth a shot
12:52 AM
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ゲームボーイ64 4/4/2018 12:54 AM
if it was including mewtwo and deoxys
12:54 AM
that'd be the FRLG chapter
12:55 AM
the only other one reveals deoxys at the end and they kill it so it won't destroy the planet
Incineroar 4/4/2018 12:55 AM
rip deoxys
ゲームボーイ64 4/4/2018 12:56 AM
well
12:56 AM
it was the ORAS chapter
12:56 AM
and it decided to attempt to destroy the planet i guess because of giovanni
12:57 AM
it was shot out into deep space
12:57 AM
gained a lot of meteor mass
12:58 AM
and so R and S had to use rayquaza to get rid of it because delta episode
Revenant 4/4/2018 12:58 AM
https://mastodon.social/@rainwarrior/99799387349334700
rainwarrior
rainwarrior (@rainwarrior@mastodon.social)
Attached: 1 image Another Street Fighter II title screen fun fact: they misspelled "Warrier" when they drew the text, but instead of fixing the art in the graphics ROM, they seem to have reassembled it using part of "Wor" from "World"? #StreetF...
1:03 AM
https://mastodon.social/@rainwarrior/99799406595511744
rainwarrior
rainwarrior (@rainwarrior@mastodon.social)
Attached: 1 image Found a mention of the "warrier" fix in an old developer interview. #StreetFighter2 #WorldWarrier http://shmuplations.com/streetfighterii/
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punk7890 4/4/2018 1:57 AM
hi
divingkxt 4/4/2018 1:57 AM
Hola.
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/4/2018 2:02 AM
やあ
punk7890 4/4/2018 2:03 AM
(* ´艸｀)ｸｽｸｽ
2:04 AM
bored, time for more debug menus
ゲームボーイ64 4/4/2018 2:05 AM
おやすみなさい
divingkxt 4/4/2018 2:06 AM
Good night.
punk7890 4/4/2018 2:07 AM
night
2:08 AM
oh look a debug menu
Neko May 4/4/2018 2:24 AM
Debug menus are good and wholesome.
Incineroar 4/4/2018 2:33 AM
Man how many have you found? I'm losing count at this point ahaha
punk7890 4/4/2018 2:33 AM
I don't count anymore
divingkxt 4/4/2018 2:36 AM
At least 200.
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/4/2018 2:39 AM
wow! 200!
punk7890 4/4/2018 2:40 AM
I think 60 for ps2, not counting debug options / displays
2:40 AM
but in total for all things debug related, it's probably somewhere around 200 yeah
leilei 4/4/2018 3:46 AM
i think i only found 1
3:46 AM
mdk2's
3:47 AM
and the debug menu in that is busted and mostly broken
3:48 AM
think its level select worked though
BrokenBenny 4/4/2018 4:42 AM
Neat! I didn't know Mewtwo had teeth.
4:42 AM
…Or wait, I'm just loony, right? Is that fanart?
Hâlian (ping in replies) 4/4/2018 4:46 AM
@ゲームボーイ64 FRLG chapter of what?
Netscape Navigator 4/4/2018 5:37 AM
mewtwo doesn't have teeth in most depictions
5:44 AM
but then again most pokemon don't until they need to make a facial expression
Deleted User 4/4/2018 5:44 AM
So air fortress is out
5:45 AM
Or the prototype at least
MrNorbert1994 4/4/2018 5:46 AM
It behaves quite bizarrly
Deleted User 4/4/2018 5:46 AM
really?
MrNorbert1994 4/4/2018 5:46 AM
Once you loaded SIDE A, you are stuck there
5:46 AM
To play the game you have to manually load side B
Deleted User 4/4/2018 5:47 AM
Huh
5:47 AM
Might load it up
5:48 AM
Then again im at work right now
MrNorbert1994 4/4/2018 5:48 AM
At first I was afraid that it loads the driver separately per disk
5:48 AM
But nope, it loads into 1 area, yet there are 2 play entry points, but it gets executed from $6E02.
Deleted User 4/4/2018 5:49 AM
Hmmm.......
MrNorbert1994 4/4/2018 5:50 AM
and the initial setup for play and init is the same in the cartridge versions, so it wasn't that hard to track them down
5:51 AM
but then again it won't work in slicknsf
5:51 AM
that player was never programmed to load memory under $8000
5:54 AM
in order to play in that player I would need to rewrite the entire sound engine if it was supposed to start from $8000. : p Not going to deal with that shit.
FMecha 4/4/2018 6:12 AM
More wrasslin' stuff, going to add this to Here Comes The Pain article https://twitter.com/GohikariCL/status/953811848931012608
Gohikari (@GohikariCL)
I finally had a chance to try the Japanese version of SmackDown!:HCTP (Know in japan as Exciting Pro Wrestling 5) and while it's pretty much the same game content-wise, i found that BRA & PANTIES stipulation was changed to BIKINI in EPW5.
punk7890 4/4/2018 6:16 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/981475400567025664
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Project Arms (PS2). https://t.co/fabJ77RSlr This game was made by the same developer who did Orphen: Scion of Sorcery, as such, this is basically the same menu. You can listen to music, sfx, voices and do many other thing...
6:17 AM
I bet this developer has this menu in all of their PS2 games. Just found it in another one
leilei 4/4/2018 6:18 AM
is there a japanese day of reckoning equivalent
6:18 AM
i know that has bra and panties
6:18 AM
and also developed by Yuke's
6:19 AM
and an interesting caw system where you can just rotate objects on a head
FMecha 4/4/2018 6:24 AM
The Japanese version of SmackDown 2 also cuts the first half of the opening movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_RdFiaWEz0
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【PS】エキサイティングプロレス2 オープニング...
leilei 4/4/2018 6:40 AM
still probably has evil zone leftovers
Lewys (NUTLORD) 4/4/2018 7:58 AM
good to see some documentation of WWF/WWE games
8:00 AM
reminds me, not sure if it's been documented anywhere, but the game doesn't have a TCRF page yet. Torrie Wilson's theme is present in SmackDown VS. Raw 2009 even though the character doesn't seem to be playable in any capacity since she retired by then
ThrowingOutRoX 4/4/2018 8:03 AM
I’m gonna be making a vid about a bunch of out of bounds and unused content in dead rising 2 if y’all wanna see it
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/4/2018 9:17 AM
I found debug menu in The Hohei PS2. This game ELF is about 22MB! https://tcrf.net/The_Hohei_(PlayStation_2)
The Hohei (PlayStation 2)
FMecha 4/4/2018 11:19 AM
Going to re-ask since it was unanswered: does the Cx4 test in MMX2 within Mega Man X Collection fail the LDMAC test? Wii VC is known to fail that test
Laenthor 4/4/2018 11:35 AM
Good question, I could test on dolphin but I don't have the game myself
ゲームボーイ64 4/4/2018 11:40 AM
@Hâlian (ping in replies) pocket monster special
11:40 AM
or pokemon adventures, if you will
Deleted User 4/4/2018 11:49 AM
Does anyone know any game that also has unused content like that shown below where a picture file was hidden in the games ROM, like a Game boy Color ROM, GBA ROM, SNES ROM, etc. even though all of the sprites in the game are more like hardware sprites(like sprites coded in BASIC or somesort) instead of picture files since it doesn't have a file system like PC games have?: https://tcrf.net/The_Adventures_of_Elmo_in_Grouchland_(Game_Boy_Color) (edited)
The Adventures of Elmo in Grouchland (Game Boy Color)
Hâlian (ping in replies) 4/4/2018 12:01 PM
Ahh
Deleted User 4/4/2018 5:34 PM
I just found out something really cool about the October 2001 Gamecube demo disc
5:35 PM
There are text files that you can modify to do things like enable or disable saving, change how much time each game has, or even change the ESRB rating so you can give Luigi's Mansion an Early Childhood rating if you'd like
5:35 PM
I'm honestly surprised that they didn't just hard code this stuff in. It's literally just a txt file
5:36 PM
https://tcrf.net/Interactive_Multi-Game_Demo_Disc_October_2001 More info here if you want to learn more
Interactive Multi-Game Demo Disc October 2001
GerbilSoft 4/4/2018 5:59 PM
makes it easier to reuse it for the monthly updates they send to stores
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/4/2018 5:59 PM
pretty much...
6:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftf-3xh0ZoM
Brad Lynch
E3 2002 - Nintendo - Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Super Mario Sunshine
6:01 PM
they also reskinned it for this wind waker e3 2002 demo which i found funny
Neko May 4/4/2018 6:06 PM
Give Luigi's Mansion an AO rating. X3
6:07 PM
Turns out the mansion Luigi won was the Playboy Mansion!
Deleted User 4/4/2018 6:15 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT that's actually a reskinned version of the Japanese demo. You can tell because the LOZ logo moves to the left, similarly to what happens in this Japanese Smash Bros Demo Disc: https://youtu.be/tcYOK7AmXbo?t=30s
MegaMan52
Super Smash Bros. Melee Japanese Kiosk Demo Disc
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/4/2018 6:16 PM
oh good catch
6:16 PM
i forgot about that japanese menu
Deleted User 4/4/2018 6:19 PM
I think most of the Japanese demos, including this one, are undumped
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/4/2018 6:20 PM
theres 64 of the japanese monthly discs from my calculations
6:20 PM
only 8 of them are dumped
Deleted User 4/4/2018 6:20 PM
whoa
6:20 PM
I just saw one on ebay earlier today
6:20 PM
Maybe I should pick it up...
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/4/2018 6:20 PM
depends what year/month
6:20 PM
and price
Deleted User 4/4/2018 6:20 PM
Yeah
6:21 PM
It says Summer 2003
6:21 PM
O_O (edited)
6:21 PM
$25
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/4/2018 6:22 PM
ah thats the enjoy plus-hen disc
6:22 PM
iirc it was bundled with some gamecube console packs in japan
6:22 PM
http://www.demoban.net/post/147443830619/release-nintendo-gamecube-soft-ecatalog-2003
Demoban
Release: Nintendo GameCube Soft eCatalog 2003 Enjoy Plus-hen (DL-D...
Download Link Another proper Japanese GameCube demo disc at long last. As a fan of the system myself, I wish these weren’t so far and few between compared to other systems, but you take what you can...
Deleted User 4/4/2018 6:23 PM
There's also one from 2004
6:23 PM
for JP Club Nintendo members
6:23 PM
Are these dumped?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/4/2018 6:24 PM
http://www.demoban.net/tagged/GameCube-Demo
Demoban
A side project run by Japanese translator PepsimanGB dedicated to the preservation of Japanese game...
Deleted User 4/4/2018 6:30 PM
ok thanks (edited)
Deleted User 4/4/2018 6:37 PM
Well I found an undumped one
punk7890 4/4/2018 6:45 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ#6843 nice work!
6:46 PM
oh cool discord's tagging option doesn't work anymore (edited)
Deleted User 4/4/2018 6:48 PM
should work
6:48 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ
punk7890 4/4/2018 6:48 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/4/2018 6:49 PM
it just breaks sometimes
punk7890 4/4/2018 6:49 PM
oh werid
Deleted User 4/4/2018 6:49 PM
fair
6:53 PM
that happened to me yesterday
6:53 PM
I went to tag someone and it didn't work
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/4/2018 7:58 PM
@punk7890 Thank you!
punk7890 4/4/2018 8:35 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/981691767283052544
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found an unused sound test menu in Yakouchuu II: Satsujin Kouro (N64) https://t.co/c0o7SUySqB This also contains options to play SFX and view all the movies + background images. There is also a silly error message in this game as well.
8:35 PM
leilei 4/4/2018 8:37 PM
resists urge to edit a mortal kombat screenshot with that error
punk7890 4/4/2018 8:37 PM
That's pretty much what I thought of when I saw it.
leilei 4/4/2018 8:38 PM
best when applied to ermac
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/4/2018 9:09 PM
@punk7890 nice! 夜光虫!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/4/2018 9:11 PM
Nex 4/4/2018 9:12 PM
people who contribute are parasites
9:12 PM
kev told me so
Paulweeze71 4/4/2018 9:14 PM
Bad Ad is a parasite according to kev
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Nex 4/4/2018 9:14 PM
also I can't sleep since 2 hours so someone fucking end me please
Paulweeze71 4/4/2018 9:15 PM
Try not sleeping cause you threw out your back while coughing in bed
9:15 PM
feelsoldman
Nex 4/4/2018 9:15 PM
RIP
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/4/2018 9:17 PM
there we go
9:17 PM
Nex 4/4/2018 9:17 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/4/2018 9:17 PM
Paulweeze71 4/4/2018 9:17 PM
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/4/2018 9:24 PM
夜光虫(Yakouchuu) is game title. I don't know it is "parasite".
ゲームボーイ64 4/4/2018 9:24 PM
google translate is broken sometimes
9:24 PM
I read it as midnight light bug
cuba200611 4/4/2018 9:25 PM
As in like a firefly?
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/4/2018 9:26 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noctiluca_scintillans
Noctiluca scintillans
Noctiluca scintillans, commonly known as the sea sparkle, and also published as Noctiluca miliaris, is a free-living, nonparasitic, marine-dwelling species of dinoflagellate that exhibits bioluminescence when disturbed (popularly known as mareel)...
cuba200611 4/4/2018 9:26 PM
A type of plankton.
punk7890 4/4/2018 9:27 PM
奇妙だな
9:31 PM
Japanese game titles commonly mix in that type of stuff
9:31 PM
Kinda neat
Chorus Line 4/4/2018 9:39 PM
I've seen many of the Japanese demo discs up on the Yahoo Auctions site at one time
9:39 PM
Ofc I've never had much disposable income for that sort of stuff. But they might still be there, maybe
ゲームボーイ64 4/4/2018 9:40 PM
ヤフオク！
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/4/2018 9:42 PM
https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/closedsearch/closedsearch/%E6%9C%88%E5%88%8A%E4%BB%BB%E5%A4%A9%E5%A0%82%E5%BA%97%E9%A0%AD%E3%83%87%E3%83%A2/0/
ヤフオク! - 「月刊任天堂店頭デモ」の落札相場 -...
ヤフオク!は、誰でも簡単に[月刊任天堂店頭デモ]などを売り買いが楽しめる、日本最大のネットオークションサイトです。圧倒的な商品数を誇るヤフオク!で、落札・出品してみませ...
9:42 PM
I found two auction. but These are finished.
9:43 PM
https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/search/search?p=%E6%9C%88%E5%88%8A%E4%BB%BB%E5%A4%A9%E5%A0%82%E5%BA%97%E9%A0%AD%E3%83%87%E3%83%A2&ei=UTF-8&auccat=0
ヤフオク! - 「月刊任天堂店頭デモ」の検索結果
ヤフオク!は、日本NO.1の利用者数と常時約5,000万点以上の商品数を誇る、誰でもかんたんに月刊任天堂店頭デモなどの売り買いが楽しめるサービスです。圧倒的人気のオークションに...
9:44 PM
These are still held.
Chorus Line 4/5/2018 3:28 AM
Yep, it might be useful to check on there every once and a while if you can't find any of them dumped online
3:28 AM
https://www63.atwiki.jp/gamecubemania/pages/12.html Pretty nice list of (most) of the Japanese exclusive ones (edited)
コレクション7 - ゲームキューブマニアの部屋 - ...
非売品 ルイージマンション実演用サンプル ピクミン実演用サンプル 動物番長　実演用サンプル 動物番長 実演用サンプルを落札しましたが… これ、シールが貼ってある以外は製品版...
MysticSageJosh 4/5/2018 6:41 AM
I wish i had the cash to blow on these
6:41 AM
and certain prototypes and stuff
Deleted User 4/5/2018 2:32 PM
happy bday @Xkeeper. Pls dont kill me
Xkeeper 4/5/2018 2:32 PM
why would i kill you
Deleted User 4/5/2018 2:32 PM
For pinging
2:32 PM
Most people get triggered by ping
2:33 PM
But yeah. Happy bday.
Xkeeper 4/5/2018 2:33 PM
:|
2:33 PM
They get mad if you mention everyone ...
Deleted User 4/5/2018 2:34 PM
Im kinda socially awkward so i cant think of anything fancy to say other than happy birthday. (edited)
Xkeeper 4/5/2018 2:37 PM
no need to make an announcement to the world
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2:37 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/5/2018 2:37 PM
oof
Deleted User 4/5/2018 2:37 PM
Or like my friend said happy-9-months after-your-parents-had-sex-and conceived-you day
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/5/2018 2:37 PM
happy birthday anyways lololol
Deleted User 4/5/2018 2:39 PM
Meanwhile im going to mess around with some important proccesses thst the 2ds has just to see how it works. Wish me a brick free good luck
2:39 PM
2:42 PM
Enjoy your bday. Mines is on friday the 13th
2:43 PM
Not joking
MrNorbert1994 4/5/2018 2:44 PM
was that a driver's license?
Deleted User 4/5/2018 2:48 PM
state id
2:49 PM
im kinda wary so i quickly deleted it
Sleepy Steeve 4/5/2018 3:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mmXhcKIhN8
Sleepy Steeve
For The Cutting Room Floor: Skullgirls Mrs. Victoria Animations
old acc! inactive 4/5/2018 3:43 PM
https://store.nintendo.co.uk/games-nintendo-switch/spyro-the-dragon-remastered/11722150.html
Spyro the Dragon Remastered
Buy Spyro the Dragon Remastered from the Nintendo Official UK Store. Free Delivery on all orders over £20.
3:43 PM
wEw lad
Incineroar 4/5/2018 3:51 PM
oh no
3:51 PM
can't be found
3:51 PM
3:53 PM
@old acc! inactive did you still have the page pulled up?
old acc! inactive 4/5/2018 3:54 PM
yes
3:54 PM
Incineroar 4/5/2018 3:54 PM
rip
3:55 PM
mind if I tweet it?
old acc! inactive 4/5/2018 3:55 PM
sure
3:55 PM
go ahead
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 3:55 PM
Oh shit
3:55 PM
Hot leaks
tape 4/5/2018 3:55 PM
i'm so happy about spyro remakes being a thing
3:55 PM
they look so good
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 3:56 PM
So it's not exactly confirmed for Switch
3:56 PM
Not publicly
Incineroar 4/5/2018 3:57 PM
if it showed on NoE's shop, it's probably confirmed but not announced
3:57 PM
probably either going to wait for E3 or a Direct
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 3:58 PM
Yeah, most likely
3:58 PM
But this is sick
3:58 PM
I don't even give a shit that Switch has way too many ports
3:58 PM
It's good games
Incineroar 4/5/2018 4:00 PM
I liked my Wii U and it wasn't bad, but the console as a whole was just not handled properly
4:00 PM
the Switch seems to show that Nintendo has learned from their mistakes
Deleted User 4/5/2018 4:10 PM
yep
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/5/2018 4:13 PM
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://store.nintendo.co.uk/games-nintendo-switch/spyro-the-dragon-remastered/11722150.html
Spyro the Dragon Remastered
Buy Spyro the Dragon Remastered from the Nintendo Official UK Store. Free Delivery on all orders over £20.
Deleted User 4/5/2018 4:13 PM
asymmetric and symmetric encryption
4:14 PM
and only necessary priveliges given to processes
4:15 PM
as well as burnt efuses on every update
4:16 PM
security wise its decent
4:17 PM
bet you ninty wasnt expecting their modified tegra board to have a bootrom exploit (edited)
4:18 PM
unfortunately it also applies to existing tegras as well
4:18 PM
so responsible disclosure has to occur before it can be used
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 4:21 PM
It's weird, how come these companies don't have people like the ones that find exploits in their products?
Deleted User 4/5/2018 4:55 PM
Some do.
4:55 PM
Like apple i believe has bug bounties
4:56 PM
Others have people test their products for vulns
4:56 PM
And then there are the security research engineers
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 4:56 PM
Then again, I guess vulnerabilities such as this kind of make their products more attractive: more things to do with them
4:57 PM
I still think PSPs and Wiis are worth getting
Deleted User 4/5/2018 4:58 PM
Not really. Vulnerabilities tend to cause people to second guess products
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 4:59 PM
Well, I mean exploits that allow one to use the product for features outside of the intended ones
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:00 PM
Like with the Tegra bootrom exploit found on the switch: Tesla cars have Tegra boards
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:00 PM
Homebrew applications and what not
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:01 PM
So the same bootrom exploit can be found in Tesla cars
5:01 PM
Which is dangerous if disclosed incorrectly
5:02 PM
Which is why responsible disclosure is being used
5:03 PM
Because this exploit not only affects the switch
5:04 PM
For example if i told you your pc had a major flaw that if used could grant me remote access with privilege escalation included would you freak out?
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:08 PM
Yeah
5:08 PM
Kind of
5:09 PM
I mean, I also think if I'd ever be a worthy target
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:10 PM
futhermore if i told you i could use the same exploit to gain access to your smart car what would you do?
5:12 PM
so even if theres an exploit theres always a risk that follows if in the wrong hands and noone is disclosed that info in order to fix them (edited)
5:12 PM
take Bad COW for example
5:13 PM
https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/how-bad-is-dirty-cow/
Linux Foundation
How Bad Is Dirty COW? - The Linux Foundation
“Dirty COW” is a serious Linux kernel vulnerability that was recently discovered to have been lurking in the code for...
5:16 PM
as that states a major vuln was in the linux kernel for a while and was just found
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:17 PM
Yeah okay, I can picture vulnerable cars being quite dangerous
5:18 PM
Which is why I somewhat would prefer if some technology is just kept as...how can I put it...
5:18 PM
As analog as possible?
5:18 PM
Instead of trying to blend everything with digital components that could be manipulated
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:18 PM
most that I want in my car
5:18 PM
cd player with maybe aux or usb capabilities
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:19 PM
Like, sometimes I recall my dad talking about how our car's "computer" was broke
5:19 PM
and I was like, why does a car need a computer?
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:19 PM
I might be big on technology (edited)
5:19 PM
but i’m not into a lot of the new “home” devices and car computers
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:19 PM
same here
Revenant 4/5/2018 5:19 PM
i am also bi on technology
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ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:20 PM
scuse me for misspelling
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:20 PM
lol revenant
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:21 PM
I don’t like devices that are listening to me at all times for me to call their name
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:21 PM
When I'm on the work carpool during the night, I grab the remote control to open my home's automatic door, and I think if it's possible to have a remote control that outputs a radio signal that can interfere with other electronics, to the point of technically being able to operate any electronics with a control that has an adjustable radio frequency thingamabob
5:21 PM
So I could get into anyone's homes or house complex
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:21 PM
i dont like devices that send my data to be sold to marketers
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:21 PM
well that’s the internet anymore
5:22 PM
I’d pay for a vpn, but I don’t have a way of doing so
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:22 PM
i fear how almost realistic watch dogs portrays technology
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:23 PM
I mean, if nobody minded, I could go on a complete rant in #deleted-channel
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:24 PM
It's surprising incidents a la Watch Dogs haven't happened en masse
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:24 PM
https://youtu.be/XgcGksgUMKY
Redesigned Gaming
CTOS 2.0 (Watch Dogs 2)
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:24 PM
Maybe the people that could do this just don't see the point of doing it?
5:25 PM
I'm reminded of some movie where some hacker or hacking program literally caused the entirety of the US' west coast power grid to shut down
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:25 PM
actually the iot exists as a small smart city somewhere in europe
5:25 PM
was reading an article
5:25 PM
forgot where tho
Revenant 4/5/2018 5:29 PM
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/982006473218777089
Samuel Villarreal (@SVKaiser)
System Shock source code has been released on Github! https://t.co/zDRTaPCoVV
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:29 PM
nice
5:29 PM
system shock was pretty good even as a modern highschooler
5:31 PM
but yeah that city is an experiment into the feasibility of large scale smart cities
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:33 PM
Smart is dumb
5:33 PM
Dumb is better
5:33 PM
Dumb can't get hacked
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:34 PM
IoT is insecure af
5:35 PM
i want a iot device just for pen testing
SirenaBeach 4/5/2018 5:38 PM
there's the issue with self-driving cars possible getting hacked. or anything that's a "smart" device really
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:39 PM
in my honest opinion, I don't believe in smart technology.
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:40 PM
i applaud snowden
SirenaBeach 4/5/2018 5:40 PM
Terminator Genisys and other movies too have shown how dangerous such technologies could actually be (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:40 PM
I think that making everything "smart" just makes people think that it's smart, when in reality, it's just sitting there, waiting for someone to exploit it and then get an update sent out, and to then find another exploit
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:40 PM
i applaud snowden
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:40 PM
yeah
5:40 PM
people believed back in '99 that the matrix wasn't real
5:41 PM
yet here we are, early 21st century
5:41 PM
having given birth to AI
SirenaBeach 4/5/2018 5:41 PM
last thing you want is hospitals full of smart devices being hacked. I mean, look at how WannaCry affected UK hospitals
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:41 PM
yeah
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:42 PM
Smart is dumb
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:42 PM
CSI: Cyber covered quite a few things like this too
5:42 PM
@MusashiAA exactly (edited)
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:42 PM
When are we putting that on a t shirt and make it a cultural message
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/5/2018 5:42 PM
to prevent killer robots from destroying humanity, please talk about killer robots in #deleted-channel
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:43 PM
Wasn't there some news about an AI being interviewed, and having exactly such thoughts?
5:43 PM
We can't make automata that can judge like us, for it'll judge us guilty and declare our annihilation
ゲームボーイ64 4/5/2018 5:43 PM
ok
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:43 PM
i was anti authority back in high to the point of wanting to penetrate dhs servers
5:43 PM
*high school
5:44 PM
its this type of invasive society that that breeds dissent
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:44 PM
Good lord, imagine some angsty teenager being the cause of a big crisis, all because he could penetrate some terribly designed govt system
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:44 PM
lmao
5:45 PM
actually me and a friend were trying to figure out ddos tools and such
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:45 PM
What's the name of that silly site that can cause DDOS?
5:46 PM
You just log in, and let it use your own connection to help cause a mass DDOS?
z20kdc 4/5/2018 5:46 PM
I recommend not naming it.
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:46 PM
Haha
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:46 PM
kek
z20kdc 4/5/2018 5:46 PM
Just stating the obvious.
5:46 PM
It seems kind of... dangerousy.
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:46 PM
i can name a bunch of tools off the top of my head
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:47 PM
It was a dumb attempt at boycotting some thing, all planned from one of those silly internet boards
5:47 PM
Orbital cannon, or some stupid name like that
Deleted User 4/5/2018 5:47 PM
loic?
5:47 PM
thats like a meme
5:47 PM
imma firing mah lazah!
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:48 PM
But yeah, tools are out there
5:48 PM
VERY out there
5:48 PM
with enough spare time, one could build an atom bomb on their household
5:48 PM
That exagerated joke won't be that far from the truth someday
5:49 PM
except the atom bomb will be some hacking tool to remote control public stuff without anyone knowing
5:49 PM
Hell, sometimes I even forget the deep web exists
5:49 PM
The rumors of hitman websites and what not
SirenaBeach 4/5/2018 5:54 PM
those are allegedly FBI honeypots from what I've heard since the text on them are more or less the same
MusashiAA 4/5/2018 5:56 PM
That's what they want you to believe
Revenant 4/5/2018 5:57 PM
sure is #deleted-channel in here
Deleted User 4/5/2018 6:00 PM
question. how long does a 4000mAh battery last
GerbilSoft 4/5/2018 6:01 PM
depends on the device that's using it
6:01 PM
and also the voltage
Deleted User 4/5/2018 6:01 PM
a smartphone
GerbilSoft 4/5/2018 6:02 PM
3.7v
6:02 PM
runtime depends on the usage though - i'd estimate at least a day or two
Deleted User 4/5/2018 6:04 PM
its a xiaomi redmi note 3 pro prime
6:04 PM
also sorry for that out of context dm a while back gerbilsoft
6:05 PM
my friend likes one of your github repos
GerbilSoft 4/5/2018 6:05 PM
k
6:05 PM
https://github.com/GerbilSoft/rom-properties hopefully will have the 1.3 release out soon
GerbilSoft/rom-properties
rom-properties - ROM Properties Page shell extension
6:06 PM
https://github.com/GerbilSoft/rvthtool and maybe any release of this if i get around to testing recrypted on retail
GerbilSoft/rvthtool
rvthtool - RVT-H Tool
Deleted User 4/5/2018 6:07 PM
nice. meanwhile i have been following a few people s advice like qwerty and hedgeberg and have been studying security stuff (edited)
6:07 PM
anyone know a good book on calling conventions?
Andreelikes 4/5/2018 6:11 PM
Are we close to emulating prototype wii roms found in dev kits?
GerbilSoft 4/5/2018 6:11 PM
emulating, no - i'm still not sure why it won't load in dolphin even when recrypted
6:11 PM
it doesn't even attempt to start emulation - white screen
6:12 PM
retail hw, maybe - i just need to test it
6:12 PM
if all else fails, i can try rebuilding the disc image manually
SirenaBeach 4/5/2018 6:15 PM
say, would it be too difficult for the wiki software to be modified to support other video sites like BitChute and DailyMotion? you never know if a YouTube video will get axed because oh noez copyright
Δndrew P. 4/5/2018 6:55 PM
Apparently, the Dreamcast version of Puyo Puyo Fever has a volume expiration date as 10/23/2012.
GerbilSoft 4/5/2018 7:02 PM
In other news, someone actually used that field
7:03 PM
Unless it's just a default value
punk7890 4/5/2018 7:26 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ In Demolition Girl I saw the same debug text. I don't have any idea either on how to activate, or if it's possible anymore. I've seen it in another one of their games as well.
7:26 PM
I was forcing different game modes hoping it would be in there but it wasn't.
Laenthor 4/5/2018 7:34 PM
Back when games were localised for each individual north american country instead of french english and spanish.
7:35 PM
I mean there's a spanish manual section but the back of the box here was not also translated in spanish
7:35 PM
This was also the first video game I bought with my hard earned money
7:36 PM
Wait a second... magic meter?
Neko May 4/5/2018 7:37 PM
Box art always has prototype screenshots
1
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/5/2018 7:48 PM
@punk7890 Debug text using Demolition Girl is used other games developed by Tamsoft. but These are not enable debug menu yet.
GerbilSoft 4/5/2018 7:59 PM
There's also green chus in the Wii version
7:59 PM
I think it's documented on the wiki
Laenthor 4/5/2018 8:21 PM
Yeah I know about that, but that means that they either made the box kindof early or they removed the magic meter pretty late in.
MLagaffe 4/5/2018 9:38 PM
the green bar is not documented.
9:39 PM
this one seems thinner than the one I used to see, which had some goo-ey effects.
9:40 PM
some api calls for it are.
9:40 PM
I think the door that never opens in Ordon village has a flag that lets it open but that too is not documented.
9:41 PM
no associated room ofc.
Laenthor 4/5/2018 9:47 PM
That door triggered me so much back then XD
9:48 PM
I think some doors in kakariko don't open either
9:50 PM
The biggest Zelda adventure of all time Yeah right XD
Deleted User 4/5/2018 10:18 PM
Spike Bashes work on lava
General Instrument CP1610 1979 4/6/2018 1:00 AM
Interesting side note about Homefront: The Revolution, that "featuretest" build mentioned in the To-Do section? It's shockingly close to the final build, despite predating it by 3 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA2sKUDWFjU
Wans Zai
Homefront 2 - Intro B - Build 922492 17/01/2013 Cancelled XBOX360 Game
Deleted User 4/6/2018 1:02 AM
im curious. what time does dhl stop shipping (edited)
General Instrument CP1610 1979 4/6/2018 1:04 AM
The second part of the intro is partially there, you still drag a character onto a couch like that (I'm not 100% sure if he was named Walker then.) but everything else, such as the surronding area. is completely different.
1:07 AM
It also runs horribly judging from the footage. Considering how late the game came out, i honestly wonder if the original idea was to have it be a cross-gen title,. and they just dropped the 7th gen versions early on because the systems couldn't handle it.
1:09 AM
The build date is also an entire week before THQ actually sold the rights to Homefront to Crytek, which is pretty interesting.
funny daytin deleted oppa gangn 4/6/2018 2:48 AM
hey uh, I was looking through the GameCube IMGDDV18's files and found a random image of promotional art of Tonic Trouble, a game by ubisoft on the n64, 'haven't even heard of it until now its under `tt01.tpl`
2:53 AM
there's also a folder called `pokemon_agbdownload` which seems to contains info for a ruby and sapphire gift Pokémon or something (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/6/2018 2:55 AM
probably the zigzagoon berry fix
funny daytin deleted oppa gangn 4/6/2018 2:55 AM
yup
2:55 AM
2:55 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/6/2018 2:55 AM
wait is it seriously shiny
funny daytin deleted oppa gangn 4/6/2018 2:55 AM
but, here's the definitely Pokémon manual included in this folder
2:57 AM
another oddity is in the rating folder, all of these accept, M, RP, E, and E to T are Teen
3:00 AM
and lastly, an unused background
3:00 AM
`bg_new.tpl`
3:03 AM
oh yeah forgot, there's a `.exe` that does nothing under the folder `config_e`, how ever its surrounded by, you guessed it, config files, more specifically, `.txt`s
punk7890 4/6/2018 3:07 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/982152468636184576
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few debug menus in Dino Stalker (PS2) https://t.co/IM2srxkwnz You can view all of the items in the game with one of these menus, play movies, test the vibration of your controller, set invincibility and enable all weapons.
3:07 AM
MysticSageJosh 4/6/2018 3:59 AM
wait TONIC TROUBLE!?
4:00 AM
that was the game the company made in order to figure out 3d platforming before rayman 2 was made
4:00 AM
i dunno why it's there, what is the GameCube IMGDDV18? (edited)
Hiccup 4/6/2018 7:04 AM
@Deleted User all liquids in NSMB share the same parent class (i.e. they share code)
FMecha 4/6/2018 10:41 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ I noticed you found a debug menu for Kamen Rider the Bike Race, but I need to investigate it on my own. Can you give me the debug code in GS format?
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/6/2018 10:50 AM
@FMecha Use "8012787C 0011" to exchange BANDAI logo scene to debug menu. (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/6/2018 11:22 AM
@FMecha Thank you for expand article!
FMecha 4/6/2018 11:23 AM
Ah yeah, I also got the chance to clean up your grammar (even though I'm not a native English speaker either, heh) (edited)
111112oo 4/6/2018 11:29 AM
Hello! I was reading the page for WarioWare: Smooth Moves and noticed some possibly incorrect information.
11:30 AM
This paragraph claims this "Bonus" text is unused
11:30 AM
However you can see it in action here https://youtu.be/S9Za7LAIVjc?t=5m50s
StickFigureVector
Warioware: Smooth Moves - All Microgames: Kat & Ana
caff!!! 4/6/2018 11:35 AM
I think the text refers to a specific microgame having the textures unused? (edited)
11:35 AM
although I haven't played the game so I don't really know
111112oo 4/6/2018 11:36 AM
It is refering to the temple of form showcase textures, which is where you can play individual microgames, as shown in the video
caff!!! 4/6/2018 11:37 AM
ah
111112oo 4/6/2018 11:38 AM
the bonus texture shows up to give you the "Drop!" microgame, which cannot be played normally in the temple of form, the one that checks if you have the wriststrap on (edited)
slfx77 4/6/2018 2:41 PM
Hey, I have TCRF whitelisted on my ad blocker, but I'm still not seeing ads. Anyone know why that might be? (edited)
Laenthor 4/6/2018 2:43 PM
Hmm, maybe something due to the capcha being out of date too. Ask some admins
2:48 PM
So uh, where should that magic meter on the box go?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/6/2018 2:51 PM
2:51 PM
to the prerelease page along with the rest
Laenthor 4/6/2018 2:51 PM
Ah there it was
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/6/2018 2:52 PM
i really should get back to those prerelease pages
2:52 PM
left em hanging quite bad
2:53 PM
2:53 PM
fuck
2:53 PM
did they seriously choke this again
SirenaBeach 4/6/2018 2:53 PM
I need to finish the Mario Odyssey prerelease page and upload more images to the Sunshine one
Laenthor 4/6/2018 2:55 PM
Hehehe they just went "fuck it" and put the fairy in the border on the box
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/6/2018 2:55 PM
i dont think you can get rid of the fairy cursor aside from moving it to the side
Laenthor 4/6/2018 2:55 PM
You could dissable it in the options XD
2:56 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386543982399979534/431598113145487370/20180405_193609.jpg On my box you can see that there's a tiny piece of wing still showing
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/6/2018 2:58 PM
im not sure if they ever "corrected" that
2:58 PM
they took that screenshot from a september batch
2:59 PM
2:59 PM
there was also another one there but i guess they liked the jump strike that much
3:01 PM
Laenthor 4/6/2018 3:02 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/6/2018 3:02 PM
tfw u motionblur irl
Nex 4/6/2018 3:03 PM
happens to me everytime
Laenthor 4/6/2018 3:04 PM
shake that remote harder
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/6/2018 3:05 PM
3:05 PM
reverse weebness showing up nicely
Deleted User 4/6/2018 3:57 PM
Sup
3:57 PM
Uh....what did i miss
3:57 PM
Hewwo?
3:57 PM
Well.....if noones listening....
Dezent 4/6/2018 3:58 PM
Shits broke it seems
3:58 PM
Restart discord
Deleted User 4/6/2018 3:58 PM
Guess its the tcrf apocalypse and im strandef
Dezent 4/6/2018 3:58 PM
But I am here
Deleted User 4/6/2018 3:59 PM
Can anyone hear me thru the twilight zine?
3:59 PM
@echo off hello world
ゲームボーイ64 4/6/2018 3:59 PM
yes
Deleted User 4/6/2018 4:00 PM
im going to restart disfail real quick. shits wack
ゲームボーイ64 4/6/2018 4:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b51-MQ0Fy6M
Golden Earring - Topic
Twilight Zone
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4:01 PM
cuz someone mentioned the twilight zone
Deleted User 4/6/2018 4:01 PM
huh. wow. Someone actually posted the twilight zone
ゲームボーイ64 4/6/2018 4:02 PM
good song, too
MrRichard999 4/6/2018 6:45 PM
Free to add into your library and keep forever! http://store.steampowered.com/app/203770/Crusader_Kings_II
Crusader Kings II
The Dark Ages might be drawing to a close, but Europe is still in turmoil. Petty lords vie against beleaguered kings who struggle to assert control over their fragmented realms. The Pope calls for a Crusade to protect the Christians in the Holy L...
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Deleted User 4/6/2018 6:59 PM
@slfx77 if you use firefox, its built-in tracker blocking blocks Project Wonderful, the ad server we use.
slfx77 4/6/2018 8:35 PM
I'm on Chrome.
Incineroar 4/6/2018 9:21 PM
could be Chrome's built-in adblocker
Deleted User 4/6/2018 9:26 PM
yeah I don't use Chrome actively so I couldn't say
9:26 PM
no idea how often they change things like block lists
MusashiAA 4/6/2018 9:29 PM
Alolan Koopa
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:36 AM
You can always make up for adblock with a donation or Patreon pledge
1:36 AM
Pledge a certain amount and you get a fancy color for your name! (edited)
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:37 AM
Ad revenue was a much easier way to contribute to a site
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:38 AM
But donations/Patreon makes the site more
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:38 AM
It's difficult to find people who would go out of their way to help keep a site up through monetary contributions
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:38 AM
Like I donated $10. I don't even know how long it would take to make that off me on ads
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:39 AM
True
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:39 AM
Because even if I didn't block them, I wouldn't click on them.
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:39 AM
You could do something silly like
1:39 AM
Make the random page thing a promoted feature
1:40 AM
and every time you click on it, you get an ad for like, 2 or 3 seconds?
1:40 AM
and then get redirected to the page
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:40 AM
That's a terrible idea
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:40 AM
I did say it was silly
1:41 AM
There's really just...no way out of the ad stigma
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:41 AM
I've stopped using sites for pulling shit like that.
1:41 AM
Considering that ads are now a security risk on top of being an annoyance these days
1:41 AM
They've well earned that stigma.
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:41 AM
I think it's difficult to find a proper way to make patrons (be it from Patreon or not) feel rewarded for their out of the way contribution
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:42 AM
As long as you don't limit site access to Patrons only
1:42 AM
Because I'll bounce for that, too
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:42 AM
At least with ad revenue, you could keep odd people out
1:42 AM
You know the ones
1:43 AM
The ones that pour money from seemingly out of nowhere, just to feel that they own your site and you
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:43 AM
Xkeeper doesn't take shit like that, though, she's awesome.
1:44 AM
She'll boot you out on your ass if you deserve it, patron/donator or not.
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:44 AM
Nonetheless, you do see my point, right?
1:45 AM
Small sites that survived off ad revenue are the ones most affected by ad stigma
1:46 AM
I really wanna know why ads ended up being the way they are
1:46 AM
Did nobody think awful ads would make people go away?
1:46 AM
Or that adblockers could exist and become so popularized, if not already standarized?
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:46 AM
Because people are greedy scumbags
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:47 AM
Bigger, badder ads don't make more money though?????????
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:47 AM
It's not enough to shove what they're selling in your face anymore
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:47 AM
what is this nani
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:47 AM
Now they inject JavaScript coin miners to leech off your CPU time
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:47 AM
A discussion about the nature of ad stigma
1:48 AM
I legit thought once that big companies would eventually push adblockers out of the internet
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:49 AM
if they try there will just be more
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:49 AM
Some places have tried, and people turned to piracy instead
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:49 AM
Like, why does Google permit uBlock to be hosted and installed on their browser?
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:49 AM
If CBS can't load an ad at any point for any reason, it kills the whole thing and tells you to fuck off.
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:50 AM
wow
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:50 AM
And their PAID service has ads, too
1:50 AM
And not just one per break
1:50 AM
Several
1:51 AM
Like you're watching broadcast TV
1:51 AM
42 minutes of show, 18 minutes of commercials
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:51 AM
wow
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:51 AM
Yeah but
1:52 AM
I guess TV ads aren't as...awful
1:52 AM
When compared to internet ads
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:52 AM
i still want to try and have adblockers for tv
1:52 AM
i doubt it's possible
Dezent 4/7/2018 1:52 AM
Or Fox in Finland: 20 minute show (Simpsons, Family Guy, etc), 3 fucking commercial breaks
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:52 AM
i'm gonna make the obvious joke here
1:52 AM
ahem
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:52 AM
TiVo used to have a skip ads feature
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:52 AM
FINLAND!
1:52 AM
what happened to it
1:53 AM
did the companies say "oi m8 stop that"
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:53 AM
I guess it's obvious to realize
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:53 AM
ATSC happened
1:53 AM
And a little piece of DRM in it called the "Broadcast Flag"
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:54 AM
Does Netflix throw ads at you like TV does?
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:54 AM
I don't know. I don't think so.
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:54 AM
Also #deleted-channel
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:54 AM
The problem is the everyone has their own service now
1:55 AM
So it's $5/mo here, $15/mo there
1:55 AM
Next thing you know you're paying $150/mo and may as well have stuck with cable.
ゲームボーイ64 4/7/2018 1:55 AM
@MusashiAA nope (edited)
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:55 AM
welp
ゲームボーイ64 4/7/2018 1:55 AM
from the times that I've used it
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:56 AM
Guess its true what they say about the market
ゲームボーイ64 4/7/2018 1:56 AM
though I personally like buying movies more
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:56 AM
Two words: Fuck. Capitalism.
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:56 AM
Rest of media turns into shit, people find the least shitty alternative
1:56 AM
which is what Netflix is?
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:56 AM
The least shitty is torrents
1:57 AM
No ads, no DRM
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:57 AM
Neko Ed, communist furry
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:57 AM
Least shitty and most accesible for the layman, man
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:57 AM
@MysticSageJosh: Socialist
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:58 AM
I worked with this chick
1:58 AM
real cute, had a crush on her, didnt like me like that
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:58 AM
BTO. The reason warez has thrived from the very beginning of accessible computing.
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:58 AM
Anyways
1:58 AM
She knew what Spotify was
1:58 AM
but didn't even know what torrents were
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:58 AM
Better Than Original.
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:59 AM
isn't there like..
1:59 AM
a law that allows consumers to do whatever they want to the things they own?
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 1:59 AM
That tells you how in the know one has to be to even understand what torrents are
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:59 AM
Fair Use, in the USA. It's been completely broken and destroyed.
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:59 AM
by youtube
Neko May 4/7/2018 1:59 AM
Mostly by the DMCA
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 1:59 AM
and by asshole movie studios on youtube
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 2:00 AM
The games case is even sillier
2:00 AM
"No, you don't own the game, you own a license that we give you to play the game"
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 2:00 AM
fuck you microsoft, fuck you atlus, i'll do whatever i want with my games and systems
Neko May 4/7/2018 2:01 AM
YouTube has a wonderful copyright report system where they allow corporations to flag static and silence and there is NO RECOURSE for the creator
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 2:01 AM
Youtube's whole ordeal is automatic, though
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 2:01 AM
i want thing that
2:01 AM
for every false copyright claim you get
2:01 AM
and you PROVE that your content is fair use
2:01 AM
the company has to pay you
Neko May 4/7/2018 2:02 AM
It's still ridiculously heavily abused and you can't fight it
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 2:02 AM
Yeah, because its also designed so that the accusing party is protected
Neko May 4/7/2018 2:02 AM
If you're flagged, they get all your money from views AT BEST
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 2:02 AM
Youtube literally covering their asses from years and years of letting people put anything they want on their site
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 2:02 AM
i feel like we should like..
2:02 AM
make a private dm for this
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 2:03 AM
Eh, I'm ready to jump off this convo lmao
Neko May 4/7/2018 2:03 AM
I'm done too
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 2:03 AM
yeah alright
2:03 AM
I'll talk to you about youtube's broken copyright system later
2:05 AM
uhh
2:05 AM
seen any good movies lately?
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 2:05 AM
I saw one yesterday
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 2:05 AM
oh wait this is general, we should probbably go to #deleted-channel
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 2:05 AM
Something about little kids from 1943 with special powers and some chick that turns into a bird
leilei 4/7/2018 2:06 AM
the only ads on netflix i see are the screensavers that promote a netflix original
MusashiAA 4/7/2018 2:06 AM
also Samuel L Jackson with spiked teeth
leilei 4/7/2018 2:06 AM
nothing show interrupting
2:06 AM
oh and the promotion of netflix originals on suggestions when you finish a show. it'll minimize a credits to put up an ad
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 2:06 AM
again, we should go to #deleted-channel
leilei 4/7/2018 2:07 AM
at best it's kept to credits sequences without post-credits scenes
ゲームボーイ64 4/7/2018 2:09 AM
the only times I've had to deal with copyright flags on my videos was when it was justified
2:10 AM
the first one was jsut me playing a game and recording myself (even if the footage wasn't theirs, the game was) and the other one was a shitpost where I took a 30 second clip of a movie and just laid memeboard cat over the audio to make it less tense
2:11 AM
i mean, while it was a bit of parody, it wasn't really anything else but a shitpost
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 2:11 AM
Again
2:11 AM
youtube's content id system
2:11 AM
bade
ゲームボーイ64 4/7/2018 2:11 AM
yea
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 2:11 AM
automated
2:11 AM
bade
ゲームボーイ64 4/7/2018 2:11 AM
well
2:11 AM
the former was, if I'm not mistaken
2:12 AM
actually done by a person
2:13 AM
but yea the latter was automated
punk7890 4/7/2018 4:59 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/982543214346354689
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few debug options in DoDonPachi DaiOuJou (PS2) https://t.co/Xuc8pL3mq1 Unfortunately, there isn't really anything interesting about these options as none work correctly anymore. The music test only lets you play one song / sfx. They l...
4:59 AM
MysticSageJosh 4/7/2018 6:21 AM
so like
6:22 AM
how easy is it to find debug menus
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/7/2018 7:05 AM
nice! 怒首領蜂 大往生 is hard to me. I can't beat it even stage 1.
punk7890 4/7/2018 7:08 AM
Yeah, it's pretty hard.
7:08 AM
@MysticSageJosh You'd need to know assembly for the system in question.
7:09 AM
\ it's instruction set
ThrowingOutRoX 4/7/2018 1:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCp-ntY0gRc&feature=youtu.be
ThrowingOutRox
Dead Rising 2-exploring out of bounds and unused areas
1:34 PM
not to sure if this goes here but it seems like it would
TommyD 4/7/2018 1:47 PM
Thank you so much @Revenant and @LuigiBlood for the assitance with the Xband project, please let me know if either of you need assitance with anything ever. Our team will most gladly rush to aid
LuigiBlood 4/7/2018 1:47 PM
hey
TommyD 4/7/2018 1:47 PM
Hey
divingkxt 4/7/2018 1:49 PM
Hello.
TommyD 4/7/2018 1:50 PM
Do not feel responsibility please, but we lost the sram
1:50 PM
Actually, our bad for not testing it on the other one first
1:50 PM
Failll
old acc! inactive 4/7/2018 1:51 PM
what xband project?
1:51 PM
im curious
TommyD 4/7/2018 1:51 PM
We've got about 90% working Xband server
old acc! inactive 4/7/2018 1:51 PM
oh cool
TommyD 4/7/2018 1:52 PM
The last 10% has been a year of hell
LuigiBlood 4/7/2018 1:52 PM
you lost the SRAM?
1:52 PM
oh
TommyD 4/7/2018 1:52 PM
Xband has tripwires
1:52 PM
if the database area of ram doesn't crc it marks it dirty
1:52 PM
And blows the fucker out
LuigiBlood 4/7/2018 1:52 PM
ah, you messed too much with it on the hex viewer?
Revenant 4/7/2018 1:53 PM
oh shit
1:53 PM
i hope my dumper didn't mess it up somehow
TommyD 4/7/2018 1:53 PM
Don't worry about it Revenant
LuigiBlood 4/7/2018 1:54 PM
I'm rather interested on why it happened in the first place (edited)
Revenant 4/7/2018 1:54 PM
bad battery?
TommyD 4/7/2018 1:54 PM
Me too
1:54 PM
Did your code write anything to the sram?
Revenant 4/7/2018 1:55 PM
no, it just does the $fbfc02 write that neviksti mentioned
1:55 PM
then copies $e0xxxx to the UFO SRAM
1:56 PM
https://pastebin.com/aXhC5DFW
.include "libSFX.i" ;------------------------------------------...
TommyD 4/7/2018 1:57 PM
Soon we'll be able to write new patches for the xband
1:57 PM
So if we lost SSF2, it's not too big of a deal
LuigiBlood 4/7/2018 1:59 PM
I believe XBAND does have updates to functions a la BS-X
2:00 PM
One thing also
2:00 PM
If you guys make use of a Raspberry Pi for simulating dialup to Wi-Fi/Ethernet like Dreamcast does
2:01 PM
If you get Japanese XBAND to work
2:01 PM
please tell me about it.
TommyD 4/7/2018 2:01 PM
We actually setup a SIP server that used SPA 1001's
2:01 PM
We setup a dial plan so the 800 number would get redirected to us
2:02 PM
People were just plugging the SPA in, pointing it to our server , and connecting
LuigiBlood 4/7/2018 2:02 PM
Well I don't think I can do that myself, for sure
2:03 PM
I've been trying to get 64DD Randnet Browser to work
2:03 PM
But it doesn't.
2:03 PM
With my Raspberry Pi it considers it connected but then stops with PPP packets
2:04 PM
Which I don't really understand why
TommyD 4/7/2018 2:05 PM
Hmmm..
2:05 PM
Do you have any dumps
LuigiBlood 4/7/2018 2:10 PM
Not really
2:10 PM
But I remember the PPP packets being just acknowledgements
2:10 PM
And then stops
TommyD 4/7/2018 2:20 PM
I don't know much about PPP, I know the guys over at dreamcast revival have had some success
2:27 PM
We have reason to believe the patch is indeed still in tact
2:27 PM
I don't know how it hapened, but the OS isn't booting
2:27 PM
Can we attempt the USB route
LuigiBlood 4/7/2018 2:28 PM
That depends on @Revenant
Puffy Puff 4/7/2018 2:30 PM
So, can anyone help me with changing a particular memory address?
TommyD 4/7/2018 2:39 PM
If it's a matter on protection of tools, we can setup a remote session for revenant to attempt using it, and delete it first hand after us
2:40 PM
using*
2:41 PM
We really only care about attemping to preserve this patch
Revenant 4/7/2018 2:42 PM
my (unfinished) tools are on github, i just need to write some instructions / make it a little more accessible
TommyD 4/7/2018 2:42 PM
Gotcha
Revenant 4/7/2018 2:42 PM
which i'll probably do soon
divingkxt 4/7/2018 3:20 PM
@pompolic Long time, no see.
pompolic 4/7/2018 3:20 PM
hi
3:20 PM
didn't expect anyone to remember me, haha
Revenant 4/7/2018 3:20 PM
@TommyD are you familiar with using/writing python scripts
3:21 PM
since that's the major part of my dumping tools right now
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:22 PM
Me and Python aren't friends, but perhaps my team members
3:22 PM
Hold on
pompolic 4/7/2018 3:24 PM
SIP and PPP, good lord
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:28 PM
Aka.. FUN
3:28 PM
pompolic 4/7/2018 3:29 PM
i've had to debug more PPPoE sessions than i cared to (>0) lately
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:29 PM
You still work with hex, so
pompolic 4/7/2018 3:29 PM
turned out...to be a faulty USB port
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:29 PM
Hahahaha
3:29 PM
We've blown alot of dial up modems on the xband project
3:29 PM
I don't even know how
3:30 PM
But it's cost a few days worth of dev
3:30 PM
Because all of sudden data starts getting malformed
3:30 PM
And you're life WTF
pompolic 4/7/2018 3:30 PM
the PPP experience
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:30 PM
You start tearing apart your dev tools thinking there is a big
3:30 PM
bug*
3:31 PM
In the process, your tools weren't bugged, but you made 60 new ones
pompolic 4/7/2018 3:31 PM
compression sync lost
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:31 PM
Then you have to go flirt with the lady working at goodwill to get a new dial up modem for free. because lets face it, who pays 2 dollars for a dial up modem
3:32 PM
Ehh. Recounting experiences of a friend, not me >.>
pompolic 4/7/2018 3:32 PM
always pays to have a social engineer on the team
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:33 PM
I've only been here an hour and I already feel at home
z20kdc 4/7/2018 3:35 PM
fun fact: never try to modify an EXE's section structure. Windows 10 may throw it out for basically arbitrary reasons. It's not like I'd know what reasons, because it doesn't tell me. Same error message, over and over again. I tore apart and rebuilt my tools multiple times, but I've never pinned down the actual cause. Sometimes I have something that works, but then when I add a bit of spacing to something, it doesn't. Runs everywhere else but Windows 10. I don't get any information about what Windows 10 wants me to do to fix it, I just get informed that my stuff doesn't work.
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:36 PM
Umm.. Sounds like you need to turn off Windows Defender
z20kdc 4/7/2018 3:37 PM
...the message is specifically that the EXE is corrupt.
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:37 PM
Then run this very non shady executable with pictures of kittens that i'm about to send you
z20kdc 4/7/2018 3:37 PM
sounds like fun. is the rat supposed to be food for the kittens, or?
TommyD 4/7/2018 3:37 PM
3:39 PM
My biggest problems in life stem from the fact that my brain is Big endian
TommyD 4/7/2018 4:02 PM
Heh, i'd have to take out a 3rd mortgage on my dev area to get an Xband Keyboard
4:02 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sega-Genesis-XBAND-KEYBOARD-Catapult-Entertainment-Inc-CIB/322579978354?hash=item4b1b43d872:g:CuIAAOSw9~5ZXRpM
Sega Genesis XBAND KEYBOARD Catapult Entertainment Inc CIB
XBAND Keyboard. SEGA Genesis. COMMUNICATION: If there is any problem with your order. | eBay!
4:02 PM
My parrot / mortgage broker Blueberry isn't going to be thrilled about this idea
4:03 PM
Neko May 4/7/2018 5:43 PM
I'd love to see someone try to remake Sega Channel over the Internet.
5:44 PM
Hidden Palace has an image with a bunch of binaries and source code, so if someone can RE the hardware, it MIGHT be possible to do it.
5:44 PM
Maybe even add an option to have it randomly fail, just like real life. ;3
ecumber 4/7/2018 6:07 PM
ok so i just found the hud font for super mario odyssey, this is from 1.0.0 and there's a luigi icon
divingkxt 4/7/2018 6:09 PM
Is it any different from the most recent version?
Halfbit 4/7/2018 6:13 PM
They look like emojis
divingkxt 4/7/2018 6:13 PM
They pretty much are.
6:13 PM
You can insert these into any font and no one would notice.
felineki 4/7/2018 7:37 PM
Kept forgetting to add this thing
leilei 4/7/2018 7:44 PM
reminds me of my lazy death animations
7:44 PM
like morrigan has only two keyframes linearly interpolated for falling (edited)
7:45 PM
and it's just a root bone moved (edited)
7:45 PM
that snapped pose at the end is hilarious (edited)
Revenant 4/7/2018 7:47 PM
@TommyD whoever "Jeff" is i emailed them some info/instructions about my USB dumping tools
TommyD 4/7/2018 7:48 PM
Awesome, thanks!
7:50 PM
@Neko May Interestingly enough, we have some completely unrelated / unreleased sega channel stuff
7:52 PM
Just a small taste of what we have
7:52 PM
void ShowSCIntroAnimation( void ) { short frameIndex; short startX = 8 ; SegaBitMap *sonicImages[15] ; //SpriteRef bulgeSprite ; SpriteRef sonicSprite ; //SpriteRef switchSprite ; Boolean animationRunning = true; short iii; short xPos = 80 ; short yPos = startX ; PathRef sonicPath ; Point sonicPathPoint ; //PathRef switchPath ; //Point switchPathPoint ; //PathRef bulgePath ; //Point bulgePathPoint ; GraphicReference scrollSCRef ; StartDBBGM( kIntroAnimationScreen ); SetBackdropID( kSegaChannelIntroBackground, false, 0 ); scrollSCRef = DrawDBGraphicAt ( 0, kSegaChannelIntroGenesis, 0, 0, kScrollA ) ;
TommyD 4/7/2018 7:59 PM
That's another project for another day >.>
Neko May 4/7/2018 8:15 PM
Ooooh
8:16 PM
I never had Sega Channel, but I played with it in Innoventions at Walt Disney World
leilei 4/7/2018 8:20 PM
in 1995 at disneyland there was an ibm 5150 running donald's alphabet chase, somewhere
TommyD 4/7/2018 8:22 PM
Δndrew P. 4/7/2018 8:22 PM
Its sad that majority of these sponsors left Disney. Recently, Siemens got rid of their sponsorship.
TommyD 4/7/2018 8:23 PM
That isn't much further from the truth
leilei 4/7/2018 8:30 PM
I almost want to dig The Grid somehow
8:30 PM
i've recently completed it in mame for kicks
8:30 PM
ableit missing lighting and proper depth sorting in zeus2 emulation
8:30 PM
it IS playable
8:31 PM
took 14 years from dump to playable
Neko May 4/7/2018 8:33 PM
Yeah, Disney is intent on destroying everything possible these days
8:33 PM
I don't even want to go back anymore
8:33 PM
And I've been well over 50 times
leilei 4/7/2018 8:55 PM
per usual it also has the midway red herrings
8:57 PM
don't know if it has the ejb menus
8:58 PM
game is by ed boon so there's a 92.74% chance there is one hidden somewhere
9:04 PM
also midway test > atari test
9:05 PM
atari always have these creepy looking serif fonts
9:05 PM
which has to be someone's aesthetic
3
cuba200611 4/7/2018 9:34 PM
And here's the classic Midway service menu: http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp064/IMG_3697.jpg.html
1
9:35 PM
One of the earliest companies to use settings adjusted by a service menu instead of dip switches was Williams...
Paulweeze71 4/7/2018 9:37 PM
You learn sumthin' everyday
9:37 PM
Neko May 4/7/2018 11:19 PM
Midway T-Unit hardware. First use of a 32 bit CPU in an arcade game.
11:21 PM
Texas Instruments TMS34010
Δndrew P. 4/7/2018 11:26 PM
Every time i hear or see texas instruments i immediately think of
11:26 PM
Nex 4/7/2018 11:38 PM
same
cuba200611 4/7/2018 11:50 PM
@Neko Ed#2096 Although the first board to use that was Williams' X Unit, which looks like the ancestor of Midway's Y/T Unit - only one game used the X Unit, and that was NARC...
11:50 PM
Came out in 1988...
Paulweeze71 4/7/2018 11:52 PM
punk7890 4/8/2018 12:15 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/982834101018288128
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug display and an SFX test mode in Wind: A Breath of Heart (PS2) https://t.co/6r2usTQ1NP The same debug display can be also found in Mizuiro, and Love Smash! 5: Tennis Robo no Hanran.
12:15 AM
GerbilSoft 4/8/2018 12:23 AM
>TI-84 Plus CE
12:24 AM
which uses a completely different CPU than the other TI-84 models
12:24 AM
Zilog eZ80 - it isn't binary-compatible with the regular Z80
divingkxt 4/8/2018 12:25 AM
Typical Texas Instruments.
GerbilSoft 4/8/2018 12:25 AM
but it does have some improvements, including a faster 16-bit ALU (as opposed to the 4-bit ALU in the Z80) and 24-bit addressing
12:25 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog_eZ80
Zilog eZ80
The Zilog eZ80 is an 8-bit microprocessor from Zilog which is essentially an updated version of the company's earlier Z80 8-bit microprocessor.
12:26 AM
..actually hm - this says it is binary-compatible with Z80, but i guess only in Z80 mode
Revenant 4/8/2018 12:26 AM
this article says-
12:26 AM
yeah
GerbilSoft 4/8/2018 12:27 AM
it also says eZ80 has no cache because it's intended to be used with SRAM
12:27 AM
which i guess makes sense considering its target
12:27 AM
https://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11114&start=0 wtf is this
TI-France's TI-83 Premium CE Hints at TI-84 Plus CE Features - Cem...
Discuss TI-83 Plus, TI-84 Plus, and Casio Prizm calculator programming, web, and computer programming, hardware development, and projects on the Cemetech Forum. C/C++, PHP, BASIC, assembly, and much more.
12:27 AM
"TI-83 Premium CE"
12:28 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-83_Premium_CE&prev=search
12:28 AM
looks like the french version of the TI-84 Plus CE, but with the 83 model number because reasons
Revenant 4/8/2018 12:29 AM
nice to see that ticalc.org looks exactly like it did when i was in high school
GerbilSoft 4/8/2018 12:29 AM
ti calculator programming has declined quite a bit since smartphones became a thing
Revenant 4/8/2018 12:30 AM
and they've announced an 84 Plus CE / 83 premium CE emulator called... CEmu
12:30 AM
that won't be impossible to google
Neko May 4/8/2018 12:31 AM
My bad, I thought T unit came first.
leilei 4/8/2018 12:35 AM
could be worse. pSX was once a hard search
12:35 AM
that was once my favorite psx emulator and it was quite difficult to recommend without a direct link
ゲームボーイ64 4/8/2018 12:36 AM
yep
12:36 AM
you'd of course just find it on a site like coolrom
12:37 AM
and then you didn't know of a homepage for a newer version
Δndrew P. 4/8/2018 12:40 AM
pSX/psxfin is a bad emulator
ゲームボーイ64 4/8/2018 12:41 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20130518110910/http://psxemulator.gazaxian.com:80/
12:41 AM
it's pretty okay
Δndrew P. 4/8/2018 12:41 AM
doesnt work well with sounds from um jammer lammy, doesnt even load Wipeout, triggers the Anti-piracy screen right after starting dokodemo isyo
12:42 AM
also locked at like 360p or something
ゲームボーイ64 4/8/2018 12:42 AM
i mean
12:42 AM
some of the namco museum stuff is broken with it
12:42 AM
but eh
12:43 AM
it's pretty decent for a first emulator
Δndrew P. 4/8/2018 12:43 AM
I guess
12:47 AM
suffering
leilei 4/8/2018 12:48 AM
it's not locked at 360p
12:48 AM
it only does native screen buffers
12:49 AM
it doesn't do the "hd plugins"people love epsxe for
12:49 AM
and between epsxe and psx in 200x, psx was definitely my preference
12:49 AM
at least its options can be configured while the game is running
Δndrew P. 4/8/2018 12:49 AM
I used pSX when I was a smol, it was less complicated to set up than ePSXe
ゲームボーイ64 4/8/2018 12:50 AM
^
12:50 AM
now I use retroarch
Δndrew P. 4/8/2018 12:51 AM
PS1 games at 720p
leilei 4/8/2018 12:51 AM
also psx worked perfectly with the games i had
General Instrument CP1610 1979 4/8/2018 12:52 AM
Is Toro Inoue your husband @Δndrew P. ?
12:52 AM
You post him a lot.
Δndrew P. 4/8/2018 12:52 AM
he's not my husband
12:52 AM
he is my child
General Instrument CP1610 1979 4/8/2018 12:52 AM
Oh
Δndrew P. 4/8/2018 12:53 AM
yes
12:54 AM
my husbando is Zygarde
ゲームボーイ64 4/8/2018 2:13 AM
I don’t have a waifu or a husbando
2:14 AM
never felt like i needed one
MysticSageJosh 4/8/2018 6:59 AM
I need one
6:59 AM
because i'm lonely
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/8/2018 11:31 AM
I found debug menu in The Chikyuu Bouei Gun Tactics. https://tcrf.net/The_Chikyuu_Bouei_Gun_Tactics
The Chikyuu Bouei Gun Tactics
divingkxt 4/8/2018 4:07 PM
https://lostmediawiki.com/The_Flintstones:_Dino_to_the_Rescue_(lost_build_of_unreleased_Game_Boy_Advance_platformer;_late_2002-2003)
The Flintstones: Dino to the Rescue (lost build of unreleased Game...
4:07 PM
I can't help but think this would have been another generic platformer on the GBA.
4:08 PM
Like, this is a one-pic starter pack almost.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/8/2018 4:09 PM
the mysterious sequel to 7 grand dad
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/8/2018 5:21 PM
!!!!
divingkxt 4/8/2018 5:22 PM
Hello.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/8/2018 5:22 PM
hai
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/8/2018 5:23 PM
hehe
5:23 PM
finally got that IIGS emu shit going
5:23 PM
so many damn image formats in that scene
5:24 PM
what a pain, but that wolf port was kinda nifty
divingkxt 4/8/2018 5:25 PM
And that's part of the reason the Apple II(GS) family scares people today.
5:26 PM
That, and name someone before after 1990 that knows how to operate one.
5:26 PM
WITHOUT the floppy's label telling you.
5:26 PM
And there are cracks galore circulating on the internet, while the originals decay in some musty floppy disk case.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/8/2018 6:25 PM
indeed
6:25 PM
also
6:25 PM
tried the Lisa emulators
6:25 PM
even worse
6:25 PM
also no games that i can tell
divingkxt 4/8/2018 6:26 PM
There are a few, but good luck getting them to run.
6:26 PM
Because Lisa flopped hard.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/8/2018 6:29 PM
disfloord
6:29 PM
hilarious
6:36 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking_Glass_(video_game)
Through the Looking Glass (video game)
Through the Looking Glass, also known as Alice, was a video game written for the Apple Lisa and Apple Macintosh computers. Written by a member of the Lisa and Mac teams, Steve Capps, it was one of the earliest video games on the Mac platform, par...
6:36 PM
correction. ONE game
divingkxt 4/8/2018 6:36 PM
Which is impossible to find any info on.
6:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PlP95WoCBw
compu85
Apple's first game, Alice, as played on an Apple Lisa
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/8/2018 6:37 PM
yikes
6:39 PM
hmm
6:40 PM
do SATA data cables differ at all
6:40 PM
as in, could that be a limiting factor for SATA rev/speed
divingkxt 4/8/2018 6:42 PM
I don't think SATA data cables differ at all.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/8/2018 6:46 PM
cool, just had this really slim orange one that actually had printed on it
6:46 PM
the rev
divingkxt 4/8/2018 6:47 PM
That's the 3.3 V Power.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/8/2018 6:48 PM
no it actually says "SATA 6G"
6:48 PM
marketing?
divingkxt 4/8/2018 6:59 PM
No, that's the transfer speed.
6:59 PM
6 Gbps (edited)
punk7890 4/8/2018 7:10 PM
hi
divingkxt 4/8/2018 7:10 PM
Hola.
Paulweeze71 4/8/2018 7:16 PM
1
Nex 4/8/2018 7:17 PM
1
3
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/8/2018 7:29 PM
やあ
punk7890 4/8/2018 7:30 PM
1
1
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 7:31 PM
Hello
2
Incineroar 4/8/2018 7:32 PM
2
1
Paulweeze71 4/8/2018 7:33 PM
2
divingkxt 4/8/2018 7:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r605ymD7nKw
The Human Unit Never Killed
Resident Evil 4: Trial Edition | Debug Menu
punk7890 4/8/2018 7:33 PM
debug
7:33 PM
yum
divingkxt 4/8/2018 7:33 PM
That's only really deep voice there.
7:33 PM
Probably a voice mask.
7:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkR5YdbUTww
ZC-Infinity
Jakks Pacific The Price is Right Debug Menu
7:34 PM
" To access, hold up, press A, then move down WHILE holding A all right when you turn it on. Do it fast enough, this should come up."
Deleted User 4/8/2018 8:08 PM
oh shit
8:08 PM
https://jameshfisher.com/2018/04/07/the-dots-do-matter-how-to-scam-a-gmail-user.html
The dots do matter: how to scam a Gmail user
I recently received an email from Netflix which nearly caused me to add my card details to someone else’s Netflix account. Here I show that this is a new kind of phishing scam which is enabled by an obscure feature of Gmail called “the dots d...
divingkxt 4/8/2018 8:18 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?diff=557448&oldid=555434#sandplane.bmp
Index.php?diff=557448&oldid=555434
8:18 PM
@sunn Heightmaps?
8:18 PM
That's what it looks like to me.
8:21 PM
You know how voxel maps are done, right?
8:21 PM
Basically, black = 0 = height of 0; white = 256 = 65336; greys = inbetween
8:21 PM
For example.
8:22 PM
Basically those pixels determine the height at which the blocks are placed.
leilei 4/8/2018 8:24 PM
and if you're novalogic you resample that on load and post some subtle pattern details onto the map beyond the voxel map's precision
divingkxt 4/8/2018 8:25 PM
Keep in mind the file is named sandplane.bmp and the sand blocks are all cubes.
8:32 PM
That's the weird part.
8:32 PM
Like it might have been used for testing.
SirenaBeach 4/8/2018 9:06 PM
are you sure that's a height map? goop maps use bmp but that doesn't seem to be a graffiti design
9:07 PM
height maps are .ymp I think
9:12 PM
I think it might be one of the particles for when the sand blocks disintegrate
Glisp 4/8/2018 9:25 PM
So apparently @divingkxt there were a lot of plans for Morrowind's Corprus disease that didn't get implemented
9:26 PM
Like ingame NPC text says you can catch it from the Corprus Stalker and Lame Corprus
9:26 PM
in reality, you can only catch regular Blight diseases from them
9:27 PM
There's also several spell effects that deal with corprus that were probably meant to be used outside of events at some point
9:27 PM
the weakness to Corprus is completely unused
punk7890 4/8/2018 9:29 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/983154689368666113
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found an unused event cutscene in Chaos Wars (PS2) https://t.co/t4r8AwnxJq Nothing too exciting. It basically tests various conversation scripts. https://t.co/N75hg0GYEh
9:29 PM
Glisp 4/8/2018 9:38 PM
also @divingkxt there's this thing
9:39 PM
https://youtu.be/jqrg4xcmdWU?t=20m11s
Camelworks
Easter Eggs - Morrowind - Elder Scrolls III
9:39 PM
It will start at the time of the thing I'm talking about
Deleted User 4/8/2018 9:58 PM
morrowind rules
Glisp 4/8/2018 10:00 PM
Wish the ignorant masses agreed
10:00 PM
stupid bethesda
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:08 PM
Award winning indie developer Bethany Esda
divingkxt 4/8/2018 10:12 PM
How about Daggerfall?
10:12 PM
I like it more than Skyrim anyway.
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:15 PM
I wish there were developers who made Bethesda-style open world RPGs besides Bethesda
divingkxt 4/8/2018 10:16 PM
Problem is that there is isn't enough money and talent put into those for it to work.
NT 4/8/2018 10:31 PM
Greetings, haven't posted here before
ゲームボーイ64 4/8/2018 10:32 PM
hello
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:32 PM
Hellote
darkwitchclaire 4/8/2018 10:32 PM
Hey
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/8/2018 10:32 PM
NT 4/8/2018 10:33 PM
Anyone played The Jungle Book for the Mega Drive?
10:33 PM
What a game that was
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:33 PM
Remember all the goofy cheat codes?
NT 4/8/2018 10:33 PM
There's a bit of mystery to it, quite literally
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:33 PM
That spelled out messages?
10:33 PM
BAD BALD RYU and whatnot
NT 4/8/2018 10:34 PM
On the score tally screen, there's score for something named "Mystery1", 2, 3 and 4
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:34 PM
Ahh
NT 4/8/2018 10:35 PM
10:35 PM
I was always wondering how to get the mystery bonuses and the only mention of them on the Internet was a long time ago on a Russian board
10:36 PM
So I grabbed IDA Pro and messed around with the disassembly, and finally found out what the mystery bonuses are
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:37 PM
Secrets revealed, live in this Discord
NT 4/8/2018 10:39 PM
Mystery1 was supposed to be a bonus of 20000 for a lot of time left, 15000 for less, and 10000 for the least, but due to a bug in code, I think, it always gives 20000 no matter what
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:39 PM
Ahh.
NT 4/8/2018 10:40 PM
Mystery2 awards 20000 points if you manage to complete the level without shooting your gun at all. It also gives you an extra life which is shown at the end of the mystery bonus tally
ゲームボーイ64 4/8/2018 10:41 PM
cool
NT 4/8/2018 10:42 PM
Mystery3 is never awarded. The code for it exists, but it is never called. It appears to be checking a flag, but the flag is never used by the game anyway. Code says it'd award 15000 points if it was possible to receive it
10:42 PM
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:43 PM
Whoops
ゲームボーイ64 4/8/2018 10:43 PM
what game is this?
NT 4/8/2018 10:44 PM
The Jungle Book for the Sega Mega Drive
10:44 PM
Now Mystery4 is the strangest of them all
10:44 PM
It is only awarded if you complete the 1st level, and you have zero lives left
10:44 PM
Only then it gives you 10000 points, and awards you 3 bonus lives
10:45 PM
But the code is bugged so instead of the 3 extra lives it shows you should receive, you only get 1
Simon The Digger 4/8/2018 10:47 PM
That's a neat bit of trivia, thanks for sharing it
NT 4/8/2018 10:47 PM
10:47 PM
That's how it looks when you get the Mystery4 bonus
10:48 PM
Don't know if it could go on TCRF, I can't post there anyway, no account
divingkxt 4/8/2018 10:48 PM
Definitely interesting.
10:48 PM
Definitely not heard about before.
10:48 PM
Don't see why not.
NT 4/8/2018 10:49 PM
Also there's an unused level select track for Daffy Duck in Hollywood for the Mega Drive. I asked Matt Furniss, the composer of the game's soundtrack why it got cut from the final release, and after thanking me for linking him the tune after so many years, he told me it was probably due to licensing issues, as it is his version of Hooray for Hollywood. (edited)
10:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hExhSk38pI
Glisp 4/8/2018 10:52 PM
@divingkxt Daggerfall's awesome in its own special way
divingkxt 4/8/2018 10:59 PM
Indeed.
Neko May 4/8/2018 11:26 PM
@NT: Awesome work. :D
NT 4/8/2018 11:29 PM
@Neko May Thanks! I should be able to put it all up on TCRF tomorrow.
Neko May 4/8/2018 11:29 PM
Double awesome. :3
/dev/urandom 4/9/2018 2:00 AM
cool info about the bonuses in "jungle book"
2:00 AM
also wow, is the palette on that screen dark
2:01 AM
looks as if they used shadow/highlight to make a pseudo-transparency effect, but put the letters behind the s/h as opposed to in front of it.
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 5:43 AM
Hi guys, thanks to Axel I was able to display with an application an unused track in Gran Turismo 2000, Special Stage Route 5. It has a proper 3d model, but still it doesn't lload on the game.
5:44 AM
Dezent 4/9/2018 5:50 AM
Niiiice
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 5:52 AM
why does it not load in game
5:52 AM
does it crash?
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 5:52 AM
Basically that should be the model that we can see in the game intro
5:52 AM
in the oldcourse folder, there are seattle and SSR5 files
5:52 AM
seattle have 2 more files : crs and ene file
5:53 AM
SSR5 doesn't have those two but if the model is in the game, I think we could find a way to make it load
5:53 AM
with some testing, I just managed to get some black screen or some crash
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 5:53 AM
are the textures too big or something?
Dezent 4/9/2018 5:54 AM
Just replace the file, that makes it work, right? /s
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 5:54 AM
again, it could be like that one kirby's air ride map that just had textures that were too big
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 5:54 AM
I don't think so tbh, also the file is in the VOL file
5:55 AM
I know you can replace it using hex editing
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 5:55 AM
i don't know about these file formats, this game
5:55 AM
or whatever
5:55 AM
i'm just trying to help
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 5:56 AM
5:57 AM
yeah psyken, don't worry
Dezent 4/9/2018 5:57 AM
Isn't GT2000 basically a tech demo?
5:57 AM
For GT3, I mean
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 5:57 AM
yes dezent, it's a tech demo
5:57 AM
really similar to GT2 engine on better resolution
Dezent 4/9/2018 5:57 AM
Yea
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 5:58 AM
SOMETHING could be too big
Dezent 4/9/2018 5:59 AM
Or the model isn't finished or something critical is missing that's needed to load the map
5:59 AM
I'm not really an expert
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 5:59 AM
maybe some lines of code are missing
5:59 AM
i dunno
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 6:00 AM
the thing is that Gt2000 videos , like the intro, have only two track displayed : seattle and SSR5
6:00 AM
so I think there should be something to do with cheat engine to make the game load the correct file
Dezent 4/9/2018 6:01 AM
Sounds plausible
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 6:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r2gRo2f-l4
MattJ155
Gran Turismo 2000 - Demo Video
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 6:02 AM
wait
6:02 AM
is the video in engine
6:02 AM
or pre rendered
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 6:02 AM
this is a video of ingame scene
6:02 AM
that's not prerendered, because if you compare seattle part of video are identical to the one in the game
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 6:03 AM
just asking
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 6:05 AM
yeah i know anyway, that's why I think we can do something to "direct" the game to the correct file
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 6:09 AM
does the game have a debug menu or something?
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 6:12 AM
since it's a tech demo distributed to people, it could have it but unused
6:13 AM
I mean I don't know, I'm not good to search these type of things (like use pointer, breakpoint etc)
6:15 AM
if someone is more efficient than me, maybe we can figure something else out
Dezent 4/9/2018 6:17 AM
I guess we need to enlist our resident debug menu finder @punk7890 for this project :p (edited)
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punk7890 4/9/2018 6:21 AM
is it a ps2 game
FMecha 4/9/2018 6:24 AM
It is
punk7890 4/9/2018 6:30 AM
OK, I've added it to my list, don't know when I'll get around to it (edited)
Dezent 4/9/2018 6:30 AM
Coolio, take your time
punk7890 4/9/2018 6:31 AM
Probably sometime after I sort out this interesting thing I found
FMecha 4/9/2018 6:31 AM
Another GT2000 footage, probably the same thing though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnLRViDXR8c
B_Rad88! GT2 MODDER!
GT2000 Promo purepure plus whats next 10 99
6:31 AM
And Gran Turismo games generally don't have debug menus until PS3 ones
6:31 AM
Doesn't mean you should drop it before it began though
punk7890 4/9/2018 6:32 AM
If you look through the elf file for debug menu text it'd save me a small amount of time
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 7:02 AM
Look into elf using an hex editor?
punk7890 4/9/2018 7:10 AM
that'd work
pompolic 4/9/2018 7:17 AM
radare2 \o/
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 7:57 AM
I didn't find anything , AFAIK , about debug menus @punk7890
punk7890 4/9/2018 7:58 AM
bummer
7:58 AM
I'll look sometime though
Jonny_0093 4/9/2018 7:58 AM
I tried to do a text search with an hex editor into the elf file
PikminGuts92 4/9/2018 9:44 AM
Hello. Who should I contact about creating a wiki account for TCRF?
9:44 AM
I want to update the Guitar Hero II page.
9:45 AM
https://twitter.com/pikminguts92/status/983132781462151168
Cisco (@PikminGuts92)
So evidently the GH2 demo from the PlayStation Magazine disc has track meshes for drums. Yes, DRUMS. Here's a very crude rendering of them. https://t.co/x6gOG6tgUE
Laenthor 4/9/2018 10:05 AM
Ask the admins and they'll gladly create an account for you
Simon 4/9/2018 11:11 AM
I converted all of the Super Mario Odyssey TestSE files to .ogg, but there's 106 of them! How would I upload all of them?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/9/2018 12:15 PM
GerbilSoft 4/9/2018 12:41 PM
https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Generations_(PlayStation_3,_Xbox_360,_Windows)#Foot_Sweep_Kick
Sonic Generations (PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Windows)
12:41 PM
"The Foot Sweep Kick move from Sonic Unleashed is still in the game, but unused. It can be re-enabled by replacing 74 55 to 08 56 at offset 9FECD6, then pressing the B button in-game."
12:41 PM
offset 9FECD6 in... what?
12:42 PM
from the youtube video: "Lol, i think it's scraped from game, but it's allmost here Open EXE in hex editor. Go to 9FECD6. Replace 74 55 by 08 56. In game press B button."
12:45 PM
https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-open-sources-the-file-manager-from-windows-30-and-you-can-run-it-on-windows-10
Microsoft open sources the File Manager from Windows 3.0 and you c...
Microsoft has released the source code for the original File Manager that shipped with Windows 3.0, with some minor modifications to the code that make it easy to run it on Windows 10.
12:46 PM
..that isn't the win3.0 file manager - it's the NT 3.x file manager
12:46 PM
BIG difference
12:47 PM
...actually hm - it's missing the security menu..
12:49 PM
https://github.com/Microsoft/winfile/ github repo says it's the code of winfile as of NT4
Microsoft/winfile
Original Windows File Manager (winfile) with enhancements
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/9/2018 2:22 PM
hah, how quaint
2:22 PM
MS: dont bother doing Program Manager next pls
Deleted User 4/9/2018 2:35 PM
The Unused Water Texture found on the files of the World 5 Model of NSMB. It is unused because it is covered in ice.
Neko May 4/9/2018 3:30 PM
That's awesome! I'd love to see all of Win3.11 open sourced, personally.
SirenaBeach 4/9/2018 3:50 PM
Mario's surfing blooper animation in Sunshine is called "ride_shell.bck". Note that he rode on Koopa Shells in Mario 64.
Paulweeze71 4/9/2018 3:56 PM
TommyD 4/9/2018 4:37 PM
If Microsoft released an insane hobbyist build of win 3.1 / dos that ran on modern hardware I’d buy it for 300 bones
4:38 PM
You know there would be a huge cult of devs building software for neo 3.1
4:38 PM
I’d leave a few sacrifices at the alter
4:39 PM
For now I’ll continue contributing to haiku :/
GerbilSoft 4/9/2018 5:21 PM
>writing win16 software
5:21 PM
plz no
5:21 PM
win16 is a horrible mess
5:21 PM
see oldnewthing
5:27 PM
https://www.transmissionzero.co.uk/computing/win16-apps-in-c/
GerbilSoft 4/9/2018 5:35 PM
"The 16 bit visual C++ compilers can be downloaded for free as part of the Windows Server 2003 SP1 DDK" wtf
80 USD 4/9/2018 6:22 PM
I swear
6:22 PM
This site is my life
Paulweeze71 4/9/2018 6:30 PM
1
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/9/2018 7:18 PM
lol Ret
7:19 PM
its def DK's life
7:19 PM
i do spend alot of time on it tho
Paulweeze71 4/9/2018 7:21 PM
The site is definitely a rich source of information
MusashiAA 4/9/2018 7:36 PM
Needs more goop
Simon The Digger 4/9/2018 7:56 PM
Love that goop
SirenaBeach 4/9/2018 8:35 PM
hey uh, someone's made a few "beta" edits to the MKW article so uh, may a wiki mod please undo them since it's like three edits? thanks
8:39 PM
or uh, nvm
8:40 PM
still, someone had gone all MarioWIki: https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_Wii&action=history
Index.php?title=Mario Kart Wii&action=history
GerbilSoft 4/9/2018 8:53 PM
Baeaeata
8:53 PM
But what if I have a beta of a beta
8:54 PM
leilei 4/9/2018 9:00 PM
i'm sure the frank has a few
9:02 PM
i used to get into arguments with alleged quake fans over 'beta' for public test builds that were explicitly declared to not be betas (edited)
Paulweeze71 4/9/2018 9:02 PM
9:02 PM
Super beta
leilei 4/9/2018 9:02 PM
https://youtu.be/XiiJKfsNxz0?t=10
Daniel Sebree
Cowboy Bebop clip on betamax
LuigiBlood 4/9/2018 9:04 PM
https://twitter.com/PistonMiner/status/983375679659048961
PistonMiner (@PistonMiner)
Pressing XBRBYL on the title screen of Paper Mario TTYD enables debug mode, you can confirm by holding Z on the main menu to show the date the game was built. Also enables crash reports when the game crashes. I am not aware of anyone else who ...
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9:04 PM
Nice
Paulweeze71 4/9/2018 9:06 PM
GerbilSoft 4/9/2018 9:22 PM
"However, the Security Engine flushes writes to the internal key tables immediately when AES_KEYTABLE_DATA is written -- this allows one to overwrite a single dword of a key at a time, and thus brute force the contents of keyslots in time (2^32 * 8) = 2^35 instead of 2^256."
9:22 PM
nvidia fucked up, which fucks over nintendo
9:23 PM
http://switchbrew.org/index.php?curid=14&diff=4435&oldid=4069
Index.php?curid=14&diff=4435&oldid=4069
9:23 PM
extra bonus: exact same flaw was on the DSi
9:23 PM
fixed for 3DS in 3DS mode
9:23 PM
and apparently the same flaw is in the vita https://yifan.lu/2017/02/19/psvimgtools-decrypt-vita-backups/
psvimgtools: Decrypt Vita Backups
The Vita’s Content Manager allows you to backup and restore games, saves, and system settings. These backups are encrypted (but not signed!) using a key derived in the F00D processor. While researching into F00D, xyz and Proxima stumbled upon a...
Deleted User 4/9/2018 9:54 PM
https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/983523175962107904
Michael (@SciresM)
Let's play a fun game -- it's called "Why you shouldn't allow for partial overwrites in your hardware AES engine": https://t.co/cv4OWdiGJH Feel free to recover my unit's SBK...though it won't be of much use to you :)
9:55 PM
That link in the tweet is thew same as Gerbil posted above, http://switchbrew.org/index.php?title=Switch_System_Flaws&type=revision&diff=4439&oldid=4069
Index.php?title=Switch System Flaws&type=revision&diff=4439&oldid=4069
divingkxt 4/9/2018 10:22 PM
>Discovered by Everyone
10:22 PM
Even those who don't have a Switch and can't ever hope to hack into it?
10:22 PM
Because that's pretty impressive.
Deleted User 4/9/2018 10:24 PM
shrug
MysticSageJosh 4/9/2018 11:36 PM
look at this totally legit never before seen goop map
Xkeeper 4/9/2018 11:45 PM
?
divingkxt 4/10/2018 12:09 AM
It's a joke.
12:09 AM
In reference to a dummy map found inside Super Mario Sunshine.
12:10 AM
Rather, pollution map.
12:10 AM
GerbilSoft 4/10/2018 12:19 AM
hey noobs - if anyone here compiles their own linux kernel and uses wii remotes, plz test these patches http://gerbilsoft.soniccenter.org/linux-patches/linux-wii-remote-led-4.16/
12:20 AM
also regarding the AES flaw on switch
12:20 AM
it affects all devices with Tegra X1
MysticSageJosh 4/10/2018 12:26 AM
DAMN
12:27 AM
they really overused the spray tool
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/10/2018 1:00 AM
https://twitter.com/msx2seseragi/status/982973637903839235?s=19
せせらぎおがくず (@msx2seseragi)
ファミコン裏ドルアーガコマンドをPCエンジン版タイトルで入力。「ウラめんなんて ありませんよ！！」...失礼しましたw
1:02 AM
Input hidden command on the PCE Druaga to display message "ウラめんなんて ありませんよ！！"(There is not hidden level.)
divingkxt 4/10/2018 1:03 AM
Hah.
ゲームボーイ64 4/10/2018 1:04 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ you've played some of the hidden levels I think it might be referring to, no? (edited)
MysticSageJosh 4/10/2018 1:13 AM
The Tower Of Druaga1
ゲームボーイ64 4/10/2018 1:16 AM
there were some special machines with extra levels that were meant to be harder
1:16 AM
they were better known for their inclusion in I think it was volume 3 of namco museum on the ps1
MysticSageJosh 4/10/2018 1:17 AM
what are you talking about
1:17 AM
i was just making a joke
1:17 AM
about a youtuber called Druaga1
ゲームボーイ64 4/10/2018 1:17 AM
whoopsies
1:17 AM
i forgot about him
MysticSageJosh 4/10/2018 1:17 AM
did you see the picture i posted?
ゲームボーイ64 4/10/2018 1:17 AM
is stupid
1:18 AM
i hadn't seen his face, so to be fair, I wouldn't have recognized him
MysticSageJosh 4/10/2018 1:19 AM
he's wearing 8 bit glasses and a golden weed hat
ゲームボーイ64 4/10/2018 1:20 AM
I feel so dumb now lol
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/10/2018 1:21 AM
@ゲームボーイ64 It is Input FC/NES hidden command on the PCE version. but I don't know Druaga's hidden levels.
ゲームボーイ64 4/10/2018 1:21 AM
ummmm
1:22 AM
I don't know of a way to show them to you unless you play that collection, but basically, one of the "unused sound effects" from Tower of Druaga (or, it was called that in the DS namco museum) was used
1:23 AM
on the "another tower" machines (they were called that), you had to so some special stuff, or maybe that was only in that collection
1:23 AM
I don't know, but you have to do some specific things
1:24 AM
the maps are interesting, but a little tedious.
punk7890 4/10/2018 6:30 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/983651668309913601
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
I ended up finding something very interesting in a game called Rogue Hearts Dungeon (PS2). There is a file named DUMMY1 which happens to be a DVD image of another game called Chaos Wars (PS2)... with full debug functionality active! Read about...
6:30 AM
6:30 AM
A very interesting discovery. And a very weird one as well.
Netscape Navigator 4/10/2018 6:40 AM
Compile Heart is a subsidiary of Idea Factory
punk7890 4/10/2018 6:40 AM
I was thinking it was something like that, thanks for clarification.
Netscape Navigator 4/10/2018 6:41 AM
since it was there first ps2 game possibly they were still doing a few things on IF’s side, the box art has links to idea factory’s website and email address for some reason
6:41 AM
maybe compile heart didn’t have their own website in 2007
punk7890 4/10/2018 6:42 AM
Oh, I didn't catch that on the box art.
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/10/2018 6:56 AM
nice!
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 7:32 AM
Just updated Kirby Air Ride Debug mode page
7:33 AM
Considering I've been hard at work at modding it I found out how it truly works for some of it
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/10/2018 7:45 AM
nice! Kirby Air Ride debug menu is seems to large debug menu.
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 7:46 AM
I'm trying to find out how to replace maps
7:46 AM
So debug mode was really useful here
punk7890 4/10/2018 7:47 AM
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 7:48 AM
Basically I found collision data, and path data
7:48 AM
All kinds of path data.
punk7890 4/10/2018 7:49 AM
I think smash bros melee has large one as well
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 7:49 AM
yeah it is pretty big also
punk7890 4/10/2018 7:49 AM
should have a top ten list on TCRF of biggest, content rich debug menus
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 7:49 AM
Same engine, same kind of data
7:50 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QzlR9GPdHT6xknVBTYXqW-XE8a_KlU2n_BSqljwOn2Y/edit?usp=sharing
HSD Kirby Air Ride Gr* (grData*) File Structure
Root Nodes Root Node, Offset, Type, Description, Notes, Notes 2 grData*, 0 4, pointer, node2, Test7 8, pointer C 10 14, pointer, node6, Test7 18, pointer, Collision Data, Test7 1C, pointer, Path, Test7 20, pointer, node9, Test7 24, po...
7:50 AM
Here's what I've been doing behind the scenes
7:51 AM
Basically there's a Discord server about Kirby Air Ride modding
7:51 AM
Except their docs suck
7:51 AM
So I made my own
7:51 AM
with details that I needed because it was not explained what type of data it was (edited)
7:52 AM
if it was a float, or int
7:52 AM
or a pointer
7:52 AM
That was pretty much missing
punk7890 4/10/2018 7:56 AM
Do GameCube games use PPC instruction set? (edited)
7:57 AM
Ah, it does
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 8:00 AM
yes
punk7890 4/10/2018 8:08 AM
To whom ever it was yesterday that wanted me to look at Gran Turismo A spec: I didn't see anything debug menu worthy in it
Dezent 4/10/2018 8:09 AM
That'd be @Jonny_0093
8:10 AM
Also kinda me too but that's a shame there wasn't any debug menus, but considering how finished and polished (except GT2 first versions) GT games were, I'm not really surprised they took away the debug menu, if it even existed in the first place (edited)
punk7890 4/10/2018 8:10 AM
There isn't much error text either
8:12 AM
there's a small thing not worth creating a tcrf page about. I didn't investigate it but this text would print to the console window if some type of graphical mode was toggled "%s: Sorry, Not yet implemented.\n"
Dezent 4/10/2018 8:13 AM
Hmm
8:13 AM
Interesting, nonetheless
MysticSageJosh 4/10/2018 8:13 AM
wait are we still talking about GT2000?
Dezent 4/10/2018 8:14 AM
Actually... Punk mentioned A-Spec which was GT3
8:15 AM
But GT2000 was supposed to be under the loop... Communication error or....? (edited)
punk7890 4/10/2018 8:15 AM
oh wait, I did find a error message
8:15 AM
8:16 AM
still boring though
Dezent 4/10/2018 8:16 AM
Hm
punk7890 4/10/2018 8:16 AM
GT2000 I thought was the early name for A Spec?
Jonny_0093 4/10/2018 8:17 AM
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec is the final version name, Gran Turismo 2000 is the earliest version on ps2.
8:17 AM
that resemble a lot Gran Turismo 2 but with higher resolution
MysticSageJosh 4/10/2018 8:17 AM
i have gt3!... somewhere
Jonny_0093 4/10/2018 8:17 AM
yesterday we talked about GranTurismo2000 and that hidden track that the game refuse to load
Dezent 4/10/2018 8:17 AM
Ninjad lol
punk7890 4/10/2018 8:17 AM
Oh, I couldn't find any info about 2000 for some reason
FMecha 4/10/2018 10:19 AM
Information about GT2K is limited unfortunately
BrokenBenny 4/10/2018 11:25 AM
I hope GranPC and/or the rest of the team behind The Beginner's Guide and The Stanley Parable manage to reply to my last two e-mails.
11:25 AM
I'd really like to know what the narrator/Daveey was supposed to say during the cut Interview, Soundmap, and Mom games
11:26 AM
And yes, I added Gran's quote to the references on TSP's page. Clearly they started with TBG as a modification of TSP, like a map pack.
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 11:37 AM
Also
11:37 AM
I noticed that Kirby Air Ride was planned to have 8 player support.
11:37 AM
At least there are hints
Incineroar 4/10/2018 12:20 PM
@punk7890 nice find for that debugger build of Chaos Wars
12:20 PM
amazing that it went unfound for so long
Paulweeze71 4/10/2018 12:27 PM
Yeah, that was a cool and weird find at the same time
12:27 PM
Keep up the good work!
Laenthor 4/10/2018 1:30 PM
I was just thinking about an 8-player kirby air ride. Maybe they can do it on the switch a bit like mario kart 8 deluxe's multi-console splitscreen multiplayer, but with 4 consoles instead of 2 (2 players*4 consoles = 8)
1:35 PM
I also once dreamt that Wind Waker x Four Sword was a thing. Imagine 4 links travelling on the great sea and completing dungeons. Just a fun free-roam where you can help each other (for example, gather a bunch of rupees to pay off the evil lord Tingle). Just a 3d zelda with multiplayer would be quite something.
Kelton 4/10/2018 2:39 PM
i need an account have lots of shit
Incineroar 4/10/2018 3:19 PM
feel free to shoot a DM to one of the @🔪 Mods @Kelton and they can hook you up
Nex 4/10/2018 3:19 PM
I have an account and have lots of shit, rip my laziness
Sanqui 4/10/2018 3:21 PM
@Kelton pm me your email buddy!
Kelton 4/10/2018 3:21 PM
@Sanqui Ehm's got it
Sanqui 4/10/2018 3:22 PM
ahh, okay!
Kelton 4/10/2018 3:51 PM
first edit, how'd I do https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Wii&diff=557888&oldid=545383
Index.php?title=Wii&diff=557888&oldid=545383
3:56 PM
i admittedly used no formatting or proper citing of sources (most of it is original research anyways) so uh feel free to revert it
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/10/2018 3:57 PM
i wish there was more hq versions of those sept 14 event assets
3:58 PM
like the trailers and screenshots i mean
Kelton 4/10/2018 3:58 PM
holy sHIT someone who knows what i'm talking about
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/10/2018 3:58 PM
most is just 240p
Kelton 4/10/2018 3:58 PM
i uploaded the videos on my yt
3:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I-05Y2T0GE&feature=youtu.be
RedBees
More Beta Wii Virtual Console - Super Mario World (Nintendo.co.jp ...
4:05 PM
is it ok to self promote/advertise here, i have a server which is highly relevant to the stuff above
4:05 PM
rules say nothing about it
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 5:11 PM
All Kirby Air Ride Test maps support 8 players
old acc! inactive 4/10/2018 5:17 PM
sure
5:17 PM
you can advo here
5:17 PM
i'm interested in that anyway
Kelton 4/10/2018 6:47 PM
aight https://discord.gg/kazafY2
6:47 PM
i don't really have a catchy way of describing it, we're working on the marketing department
6:47 PM
like tcrf but on a focus on everything but the games
6:47 PM
like hardware and FW stuff
6:47 PM
and other misc stuff
6:49 PM
@old acc! inactive
SirenaBeach 4/10/2018 7:07 PM
@Kelton do you cover stuff promo CDs?
Kelton 4/10/2018 7:07 PM
we've gone through a couple presskits but we do mostly dev stuff
7:07 PM
sdks and the like
7:08 PM
we cover anything and everything tho in the sense that anyone can join and talk about whatever they have
SirenaBeach 4/10/2018 7:10 PM
I see. So I'm assuming you've also covered the GameCube unused 3D function?
Paulweeze71 4/10/2018 7:10 PM
So, sdks and hardware is your forte?
Xkeeper 4/10/2018 7:11 PM
seems kind of hypocritical to advertise your server while your own rules say no advertising, but hey, you do you i guess :P
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punk7890 4/10/2018 7:11 PM
@Incineroar thanks! That kind of find probably won't happen again haha
7:12 PM
I don't think it is possible to recover the files missing from the image though. It's like they were there at one point but are no longer present within the image.
Deleted User 4/10/2018 7:39 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DadXB6KU0AA1IQr.jpg can any one help i have this installed on my computer
Kelton 4/10/2018 7:47 PM
@Xkeeper hypocrisy is my middle name
7:47 PM
red hypocrisy bees
7:47 PM
@SirenaBeach yeah but we havent found much about it
7:47 PM
@Paulweeze71 yep
SirenaBeach 4/10/2018 7:48 PM
alright.
Paulweeze71 4/10/2018 7:57 PM
Cool beans
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 8:10 PM
If you happen to find old official Super Famicom dev kit stuff I'm interested
8:10 PM
all the tools, soundfont, etc
8:10 PM
and documentation
Paulweeze71 4/10/2018 8:11 PM
And find this man a n64dd dev kit
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 8:13 PM
also that
8:13 PM
The only dev kit that I need
Kelton 4/10/2018 8:14 PM
@LuigiBlood we usually focus on 6th to current gen but incase we find anything i'll let you know you the fuckin mvp luigiblood
8:14 PM
aka n64dd guy lol
8:15 PM
also TetraBitGaming is in my server
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 8:15 PM
currently dealing with GameCube
8:15 PM
Because I guess I have to branch out sometimes
8:15 PM
8:15 PM
It's also a nice change of pace
Kelton 4/10/2018 8:16 PM
nice lol
8:17 PM
honestly I don't have the intellectual capacity to do any real work like coding i just google and hoard publicly available data
8:17 PM
and occasionally strike up conversations leading to a couple not publicly available things
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 8:19 PM
Personally why I want Super Famicom specific stuff (and not SNES, I really mean japanese) is because I'm interested on official docs about BS-X
8:19 PM
There must be such documentation around
8:19 PM
and would make my job so much easier once we get that
Kelton 4/10/2018 8:21 PM
yea unfortunately im not an insider so there are very few cases in which i'd have something you dont
8:21 PM
our file repo doesn't even have anything SNES related on it let alone sfc
8:22 PM
i have a SNES SDK but it's literally off emuparadise
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 8:22 PM
The closest to official SNES SDK is the Virtual Boy SDK.
Kelton 4/10/2018 8:22 PM
oh wow
8:22 PM
how
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 8:23 PM
It assembles SNES 5A02, SPC700, SuperFX etc
8:23 PM
Basically
8:23 PM
It's an updated version of Intelligent Systems' assembler and linker
8:23 PM
And the debugger
8:24 PM
is still compatible with the Super NES Emulator SE
8:24 PM
8:24 PM
This thing
8:24 PM
And that's just from the Virtual Boy SDK lol
Kelton 4/10/2018 8:24 PM
jesus christ i thought that started with the DS
8:24 PM
the emulator boxes
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 8:24 PM
nah Intelligent Systems is old
Incineroar 4/10/2018 8:25 PM
ooh, my coworker found an OG Xbox for $20
8:25 PM
no controllers or anything but
8:25 PM
gonna get him to get it for me
Kelton 4/10/2018 8:26 PM
nice
SirenaBeach 4/10/2018 8:26 PM
64DD? how about the Nintendo Playstation
Incineroar 4/10/2018 8:27 PM
and yeah, I was curious on SNES SDKs too, been wanting to play around with one
8:27 PM
iirc the one on the paradise is just docs though if I'm not mistaken
Kelton 4/10/2018 8:28 PM
@Incineroar and some debugger stuff
8:28 PM
but nothing particularly useful
8:28 PM
8:28 PM
who wants one of these
☎ 4/10/2018 8:32 PM
oh cool, luigiblood is here
Incineroar 4/10/2018 8:33 PM
i'd love just some kind of debugger unit, but they're all super expensive
8:34 PM
I could get a Wii U or 3DS from NoA but those are $$$$$ in some aspects
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 8:37 PM
You said Nintendo Playstation
8:37 PM
But technically I hosted the BIOS ROM first (edited)
8:37 PM
8:37 PM
Wanted to take a look myself (edited)
8:37 PM
But nocash is just much faster
TommyD 4/10/2018 8:48 PM
Hmm
8:49 PM
So how close in hardware is the vb to the snes?
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 9:02 PM
Almost none
9:02 PM
Actually just not even close at all
Kelton 4/10/2018 9:02 PM
`GameCube supports 4M bits memory cards named digicard. The CARD API provides file level access for the digicards. Each digicard can have up to 127 files. The file size must be multiple of 8 kilobytes and is determined when a file is created.`
9:02 PM
Circa 2000
LuigiBlood 4/10/2018 9:08 PM
Basically Playstation Memory Card but bigger
divingkxt 4/11/2018 12:04 AM
12:04 AM
This was taken with mGBA 0.6.0.
12:05 AM
It didn't even get past "Interrupt" before crashing hard.
12:05 AM
12:05 AM
Here's mGBA 0.6.2.
12:05 AM
Still not accurate, but it's getting closer.
Deleted User 4/11/2018 12:08 AM
I wonder If there's any arcade game like these: https://primetimeamusements.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/spongebobjellyfishing.png https://primetimeamusements.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/spongebob_pineapple_arcade_NEW.png http://www.wogme.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/whack_2p_290_360.jpg https://flyers.arcade-museum.com/flyers_pinball/gottlieb/72005801.jpg http://www.arcadebelgium.com/forum/pix14/spongebob_02.png Have unused content, The reason why those pictures where picked up from Searching a Spongebob arcade game is because those are recent examples(So nothing too Pixelated or something, so I was hoping its gonna have some sort of a file system instead of being one gigantic file), and Im wanna know if there unused content in any arcade games like what is shown above. (edited)
old acc! inactive 4/11/2018 12:10 AM
honestly i have no idea if those have even been dumped
12:10 AM
let alone if they could be dumped
Deleted User 4/11/2018 12:14 AM
But I was hoping there was a file system in those games so you can find the unused content of those arcade games hidden in the ROM/Epoxy Blob of the arcade game. Again, the reason why I pick pictures of those Spongebob Games is because these are recent examples of those kinds of arcade games(Since Spongebob have been around since 1999) and Im not sure how they are made nowadays. (edited)
divingkxt 4/11/2018 12:16 AM
That is very unlikely.
12:17 AM
Nowadays, arcade games use hard disks, not ROMs.
Deleted User 4/11/2018 12:20 AM
So in other words, these arcade game nowadays are basically another operating system like Windows 98, Windows XP etc. just without the mouse and the keyboards? (edited)
old acc! inactive 4/11/2018 12:21 AM
kinda
12:21 AM
mario kart arcade gp dx runs on windows
12:21 AM
for example
Deleted User 4/11/2018 12:23 AM
So its not surprising when you sometimes see something like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KXSJNBGUH_o/maxresdefault.jpg On an arcade machine?
leilei 4/11/2018 12:26 AM
sound blaster pci 128 failure
12:26 AM
mame needs to ramp up their es1371 emulation
12:27 AM
windows pc arcades are a thing, you'll have to get used to it as mame progresses in the next few decades
12:28 AM
they really could use some pentium / pentium 2 recompiler to make that more worthwhile though
12:29 AM
and don't go trying them in pc emulators as as they won't emulate the protection dongles and specific arcade perhipherals neccessary (edited)
12:31 AM
that and pc emulators won't emulate some pc machines' unique audio chips either
12:31 AM
not all of them do the sound blaster thing
12:33 AM
i used to think it was ridiculous that some arcades were getting powered by Playstation hardware
12:33 AM
sometimes not even getting playstation ports
Deleted User 4/11/2018 12:35 AM
What some user in this discord chat were saying is that Nowadays, That An Arcade game is basically another Operating System Like Windows XP, Windows 98, Mac OS X etc, so they are not powered by ROM anymore rather then a hard drive or a solid state drive. (edited)
divingkxt 4/11/2018 12:36 AM
Correct.
ゲームボーイ64 4/11/2018 12:37 AM
you don't have to capitalize everything, just FYI
divingkxt 4/11/2018 12:37 AM
Also, a solid state drive is a hard drive.
ゲームボーイ64 4/11/2018 12:38 AM
but it isn't a hard disk drive
Deleted User 4/11/2018 12:41 AM
So its possible for Software Pirates to try to turn it into a HDD file and basically play the entire game on a virtual machine like VMware for example? (edited)
leilei 4/11/2018 12:41 AM
don't forget arcades powered by flash
12:42 AM
uh...no
12:42 AM
they'd be stopped by the dongle protection
12:42 AM
and the game hardwired to use a specific control peripheral
12:44 AM
the most they can probably pirate at that point is the installed windows and its key
Deleted User 4/11/2018 12:45 AM
So thats a clever way to stop software pirates for taking your arcade game right?
leilei 4/11/2018 12:46 AM
not really. dongle protection is an old concept
12:47 AM
and it's natural for arcade software to have physical drm
Deleted User 4/11/2018 12:52 AM
Since You say that there are arcade games nowadays are installed on a windows machines, is it no surprise when someone either saw a Windows blue screen of death on the arcade game or even saw an error message coming from the Windows Operating system itself?
leilei 4/11/2018 12:52 AM
should rarely happen if ever as they'd be stuck in one specific and well-stress-tested configuration before shipping (edited)
12:53 AM
and if it does it's the operator's business to deal with it
divingkxt 4/11/2018 1:00 AM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 Holy cow, you can actually reach the main menu of The Last of Us in RPCS3.
Dezent 4/11/2018 1:20 AM
RPCS3 progress is quite great and unexpected
1:21 AM
It might show that some game doesn't even boot for a long time and then suddenly BAM it's in-game
FMecha 4/11/2018 5:56 AM
@Deleted User see: TeknoParrot
5:57 AM
In case of them they crack protections too to make it work anywhere (edited)
5:57 AM
MAMEdevs do the same thing but with going as far to emulate the entire hardware
pompolic 4/11/2018 8:34 AM
ATMs run ancient windows too
Stewie1.0 4/11/2018 9:21 AM
I can rip sounds correctly from Diva Future Tone now, and all of Arcade Future Tone's sounds r still in there, and all of Dreamy Theater 1's
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/11/2018 9:39 AM
nice!
GerbilSoft 4/11/2018 10:23 AM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/i-have-a-jpn-new-3ds-region-changed-but-when-i-uninstalled-b9s-all-system-apps-went-please-help.500037/ "i had a JP 3DS and region changed it to US, but then i removed boot9strap and now everything's gone!!!"
I have a JPN New 3ds region changed. But when I uninstalled B9S al...
I have a Japanese New 3ds that I installed b9s on and had luma but it had a North American region change to the system and I couldn't find anything on...
10:23 AM
why do people do stupid things like this
Dezent 4/11/2018 10:56 AM
Because... some people are stupid?
Δndrew P. 4/11/2018 11:08 AM
know what you’re doing with homebrew guys
Δndrew P. 4/11/2018 11:18 AM
That one time i did A9LH on my N3DS was already enough because i remembered if you close it, it bricks immediately.
11:18 AM
I got so damn scared while doing the process because yeah
Laenthor 4/11/2018 11:44 AM
I successfully installed al9h about 3 years ago. Took a while but I was happy. Now they're both (regular and xl) up to date with the newer methods.
FMecha 4/11/2018 11:48 AM
New Asphalt 8 update is out and seems they already deleted Villain Wheels (the event only car) from the brand list, if not the game (not my pic) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316990166327754762/433653140878000150/unknown.png?width=873&height=473
11:49 AM
Mine at the moment, haven't updated yet for reference
Incineroar 4/11/2018 12:28 PM
i should archive my GTA 4 installation
12:28 PM
until a list of songs being removed comes out
12:28 PM
there's like one radio station I actually listen to
12:28 PM
and I really hope none of them are being removed
Dezent 4/11/2018 12:38 PM
I'm sure modders will release a mod that restores those songs
Incineroar 4/11/2018 12:43 PM
oh probably
12:43 PM
the game itself has a stellar soundtrack, R* always hires good DJs to put together lists
Dezent 4/11/2018 12:50 PM
Yeah, and then they're cheapskates and purchase a time-limited license
12:50 PM
See GTA:SA
Huks 4/11/2018 12:55 PM
Pretty much everyone does that though
12:56 PM
It's why games with licensed music seldom get ports or rereleases
Dezent 4/11/2018 1:05 PM
True
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 4/11/2018 1:36 PM
Managed to get Danganronpa V3 to load one of the built-in test/debugging scripts, and it reveals a dummy/test map! https://youtu.be/hRjb7n9Via0
Captain Swag
Danganronpa V3: "maptest1" script
GerbilSoft 4/11/2018 2:06 PM
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/ftc-warranty-voiding-language-like-nintendos-and-sonys-is-illegal/
FTC: Warranty-voiding language like Nintendo’s and Sony’s is i...
FTC warns companies to stop voiding warranties for unauthorized repairs.
2:07 PM
the examples they used, with company names redacted, match the warranty descriptions printed by Hyundai, Sony, and Nintendo, among others
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 4/11/2018 2:25 PM
I wonder if this will only apply to future products, or whether it will affect existing products that are still under warranty?
GerbilSoft 4/11/2018 2:35 PM
the law in question, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, has been in place since 1975
MusashiAA 4/11/2018 2:54 PM
That was most likely put in place during an electronics boom back then
2:54 PM
People didn't know how to fix things, so "for their safety", force companies to fix things for them via warranty
2:55 PM
if you tried to open it up yourself, you broke it yourself
2:55 PM
or some silly logic
2:55 PM
Good law, lasted a long time
(Old Account) CaptainSwag101 4/11/2018 3:01 PM
Companies probably also did it to try and stop people sending in stuff for repairs that was obviously user-inflicted or already not covered by the warranty. Which I can kinda understand, but I think they need to have more evidence that the damage was user-inflicted than just "this tiny seal is broken, let's assume they probably took a hammer to the device"
MusashiAA 4/11/2018 3:18 PM
I saw this pic of Zuckerberg sitting on that desk with like, dozens of cameramen pointing their cameras at him very close to his face, and for a second I wondered if its ever okay to do that to someone who's being put under pressure over a stupid political scapegoat
3:18 PM
but then I remember he owns Facebook, which is literally all about exploiting and eroding privacy
3:19 PM
so yes, it is okay if its him
Nex 4/11/2018 3:19 PM
MusashiAA 4/11/2018 3:20 PM
I gotta say, the individual looks strange, his eyes are weird
Nex 4/11/2018 3:21 PM
he also has this uncanny smile
MusashiAA 4/11/2018 3:21 PM
But
3:21 PM
Isn't the whole reptilian meme also a bit of antisemit?
3:21 PM
Isn't he jewish?
Nex 4/11/2018 3:21 PM
Idk
3:22 PM
Its just for fun dud
MusashiAA 4/11/2018 3:22 PM
Zuckerberg sounds jewish to me
Nex 4/11/2018 3:22 PM
zuckerberg is german
MusashiAA 4/11/2018 3:22 PM
Oh
3:22 PM
Fuck him, then
Nex 4/11/2018 3:23 PM
Idk if hes jew
3:24 PM
the reptilian meme is definetly not targeted towards him because he is jew, if so
z20kdc 4/11/2018 3:28 PM
I just read it as "he's a dangerous reptile because he acts like a snake". What was it again, something about buying up the area around his house so nobody could look into his windows?
Jonny_0093 4/11/2018 4:09 PM
Gran Turismo 2000 : searching into highway.img file, I found special stage route 5 textures.. I wasn't able to find the correct colors but it's still something. With the 3d model I was able to see some days ago, I can definitely say that the track is in the game. Just need to figure out how to make the game load it
SirenaBeach 4/11/2018 6:37 PM
quit being speciesist towards reptiles (Godzilla did nothing wrong). Zuckerberg is Skynet or an evil AI robot (designed by IBM anyone?)
Nex 4/11/2018 6:46 PM
whenever I log into my facebook dupe I feel my privacy getting zucc'd as everything is geared towards my intrests
Paulweeze71 4/11/2018 7:10 PM
ゲームボーイ64 4/11/2018 7:18 PM
Zuckerberg can’t be skynet
7:18 PM
He told someone else his plans
7:20 PM
skynet would be silent about it
Simon The Digger 4/11/2018 7:23 PM
Good ol' Zeckburger
Δndrew P. 4/11/2018 7:25 PM
Who even uses facebook anyway all i see are 40 year old soccer moms
Paulweeze71 4/11/2018 7:28 PM
That's just sad...
GerbilSoft 4/11/2018 7:29 PM

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LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 4/11/2018 7:55 PM
has anyone tried looking for the helmet the lizaflos originally had in twilight princess? the unused spikes are in the texture so it wouldn't be that farfetched.
7:56 PM
7:57 PM
maybe it exists under the file for the masked lizaflos
Puffy Puff 4/11/2018 8:00 PM
hmmm
8:01 PM
theres this guy who makes this fangame called Hyrule Conquest and he uses all sorts of models and shit for it so maybe hes dug it up
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 4/11/2018 8:03 PM
yeah i've already seen that, it's a really bad remake of it
Laenthor 4/11/2018 8:14 PM
It could be there, but from what I've seen the zelda pages are really thorough so the chances of an unused model being in ther are lower
punk7890 4/11/2018 9:03 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/984235319426859008
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a small debug mode, an unused video, and some files relating to DVD image creation in Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro: Battle da Yo! (PS2) https://t.co/DB3GHwexBD! The debug mode draws SPRITE DEBUG on screen, and the unused video is a scribbl...
9:03 PM
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/11/2018 9:05 PM
nice!
9:07 PM
I will change title "Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro: Battle da Yo! Hannin Shuugou!". (edited)
Paulweeze71 4/11/2018 9:07 PM
Dude IS a debug menu
9:07 PM
LuigiBlood 4/11/2018 9:08 PM
Currently
9:09 PM
Killer7 source code is helping modding Super Smash Bros. Melee and Kirby Air Ride
9:09 PM
That source code is USEFUL AS FUCK
punk7890 4/11/2018 9:14 PM
@Paulweeze71 lol
9:14 PM
haven't heard that one before
9:14 PM
got a good chuckle from that
Paulweeze71 4/11/2018 9:17 PM
9:17 PM
Were you the one who found the debug in the Twine beta?
Kelton 4/11/2018 9:20 PM
so uh ive seen a guy on a certain site who claims to have a copy of the e3 2005 tp demo (not from e3, from another event, but the same demo) but hes intentionally ignoring dms pretty sure he has credibility tho, he is a legit collector f
punk7890 4/11/2018 9:20 PM
@Paulweeze71 yeah
Paulweeze71 4/11/2018 9:21 PM
Thanks for that
punk7890 4/11/2018 9:22 PM
No problem
SirenaBeach 4/11/2018 10:08 PM
@Kelton anything on the E3 2001 Luigi's Mansion demo? it's almost as if it's intentionally never been leaked because of what could be hiding on the disc... (edited)
divingkxt 4/11/2018 10:10 PM
Problem is that people can easily claim they have X. But when prompted about it? Radio silence.
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:11 PM
@SirenaBeach yes loogi ded seriously tho idk @divingkxt yeaa
SirenaBeach 4/11/2018 10:12 PM
@divingkxt I have seen numerous kids do that on YouTube
10:12 PM
"i have luigi's mansion beta disk"
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:12 PM
btw
10:12 PM
I legitimately own this
10:12 PM
SirenaBeach 4/11/2018 10:12 PM
6 months later
10:13 PM
"still have it. i just can't upload it right now"
10:13 PM
never seen again
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:13 PM
i also was the first to obtain and aided in dumping a previously undumped Wii repair disc
10:13 PM
(not the above one it's been dumped for years)
10:14 PM
https://www.gametdb.com/Wii/091E00
| 091E00 - Movie-Ch Install Disc Ver. A
Nintendo Wii games database, with information and artwork in all languages, including Japanese, Korean and Chinese.
10:14 PM
i didn't dump it myself cause it needed resurfacing and i don't have access directly or indirectly to that
10:14 PM
but i started the effort that led to it getting dumped
10:14 PM
and i documented what i could of it from mine before it was 1:1 dumped
10:15 PM
we also did this
10:15 PM
10:18 PM
10:18 PM
whoever notices what's off gets a cookie
10:18 PM
Smoke 4/11/2018 10:19 PM
i'll steal that cookie
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:19 PM
no u
Smoke 4/11/2018 10:19 PM
ouch
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:20 PM
divingkxt 4/11/2018 10:24 PM
@SirenaBeach They do it solely for attention.
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:27 PM
no shit
10:27 PM
i thought they were doing it for profit
10:27 PM
:^)
divingkxt 4/11/2018 10:28 PM
It would be weird to find out if little kids had their own little hoard hidden out in New Mexico.
SirenaBeach 4/11/2018 10:28 PM
it's the Wii
10:29 PM
or Revolution
Smoke 4/11/2018 10:29 PM
@divingkxt In an RV
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:29 PM
it's the back of E3 2005 Revolution coloured mockup models
10:29 PM
no Sensor Bar port
10:29 PM
because at that point
10:29 PM
it connected via the GC slot
SirenaBeach 4/11/2018 10:29 PM
why didn't Nintendo just release multiple colours back in 2006?
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:29 PM
nintendo
SirenaBeach 4/11/2018 10:30 PM
I mean, I think they did that with the GameCube within 2 years of release
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:31 PM
better pic https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/370015351980949505/433403224226136084/wii-hardware-changed-20060523050808731.jpg
SirenaBeach 4/11/2018 10:31 PM
hey gess wat giys i fund the lugiz manson beta dick in a dumpster in new england
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:31 PM
now
10:31 PM
a truly cum worthy pic
10:31 PM
i really
10:31 PM
really
10:31 PM
wish
10:31 PM
we had this close up
10:31 PM
10:32 PM
that fucking bottom label
10:32 PM
next to it is a Dev Tool V4
darkwitchclaire 4/11/2018 10:32 PM
Why did they have a black console at the mockup but didn't actually release one until a few years later?
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:32 PM
a beta wiimote with a pause and arrow button
10:32 PM
in place of +/-
SirenaBeach 4/11/2018 10:33 PM
weren't the 1 and 2 buttons called x and y?
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:33 PM
well
10:33 PM
they went through a few iterations
10:33 PM
so much so that
10:33 PM
in one promo photo
10:33 PM
it's x/y
10:33 PM
the reflection is a/b
10:34 PM
(or the other way around idr)
10:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKp6PLwxsM
Adam Davies
Nintendo Wii Trailer Part 1, E3 2006 (Increased Brightness)
10:35 PM
this trailer has retail-resembling Dev Tool V4 units
10:35 PM
lemme find the frame
10:37 PM
ah it's in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFZmj8eYs2Q
Adam Davies
Nintendo Wii Trailer Part 2, E3 2006 (Increased Brightness)
10:37 PM
10:37 PM
these aren't exactly the same as the dev tool v4s distributed to devs
10:37 PM
they have the nintendo logo like tgs remotes instead of no logo
10:37 PM
and theyre white
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:37 PM
@Kelton that disc was dumped? I had no idea
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:38 PM
10:38 PM
@Incineroar which one
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:38 PM
the one you own
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:38 PM
i own both
10:38 PM
lol
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:38 PM
ok the one you posted lol
10:38 PM
i was actually looking for that ISO one time
10:38 PM
never did find it for obvious reasons :V
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:38 PM
?g Wii Backup Disc
10:39 PM
dyno doesn't do that
10:39 PM
f
10:39 PM
anyways
10:39 PM
as i was saying
10:39 PM
e3 2006 (edited)
10:39 PM
virtual console
10:39 PM
classic controller is pause/arrow
10:39 PM
and has nintendo logo instead of wii logo
10:40 PM
i know basically everything publicly released/leaked and more (original findings from said released stuff like sdks) about the wii 2003-2006
10:40 PM
from the creation time of the wii's Starlet processor (internally IOP, and IOS is IOP-OS) from the pre-release version of the menu when the ability for games to set a banner flag for controller requirements was removed
10:42 PM
we're cataloguing all this stuff over at http://wiki.mariocube.xyz (it was literally created yesterday, it has little on it atm other than some stuff copypasta'd over from previous places)
Wiki.mariocube.xyz
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:43 PM
and that wii startup disc would be interesting to datamine as well
10:43 PM
and in Googling it, it does seem it was released
10:43 PM
but mirrors no longer exist
10:43 PM
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:43 PM
i created the first google search result for it lol
10:44 PM
that page is outdated
10:44 PM
don't trust it
10:44 PM
it's a bunch of junk
10:44 PM
we're making a new one
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:44 PM
that wiibrew page? (edited)
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:44 PM
no
10:44 PM
the lost media wiki one
10:44 PM
oof
10:44 PM
startup disc is boring tho
10:44 PM
the startup disc menu is much more interesting
10:45 PM
it has weird ass behaviors
10:45 PM
that we can't even trigger without actual corruption
10:45 PM
yes the thing we have is more interesting than the one we don't have lol
10:45 PM
that menu is so damn complicated i made a flowchart for it
10:45 PM
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:49 PM
"Out in the middle of nowhere because we have no goddamn idea." what if that's for the disc being launched from the main menu?
10:49 PM
seems the most likely candidate
10:49 PM
ofc nobody will know until the disc surfaces
10:50 PM
that's a really interesting flowchart though
10:50 PM
seems it does a lot of checking beforehand
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:50 PM
disc being launched for the main menu works like this:
10:51 PM
all versions of the retail system menu have a check in the disc state machine, when checking if the disc is wii or gc, it has a special case for the id being "RAAE", and if it is, it sets the disc type to unknown, causing a generic "could not read the disc" error
10:51 PM
handles it exactly the same way as inserting a DVD
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:51 PM
ah
10:52 PM
i wonder if that could be bypassed and what would happen
10:52 PM
if it does surface
10:52 PM
i'll have to back up my NAND folder in dolphin and try it
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:52 PM
there's actually a priiloader hack someone posted on gbatemp to bypass it
10:52 PM
(made as a parental control by game id type thing)
10:52 PM
(but it actually edits the RAAE check and replaces it with whatever ID)
10:52 PM
the startup disc itself likely isn't very exciting
10:53 PM
just gold 1.0 versions of all the wii software which we already have anyways
10:53 PM
now
10:53 PM
i bet nobody here has seen this
10:53 PM
cause uh
10:53 PM
i'm not supposed to release it
10:53 PM
hehe
10:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/eKXRVNp.png
10:53 PM
this is a confirmed pre-wii wii remote prototype distributed to EA and Factor 5
10:54 PM
it has DDH (early PC-like gamecube devkit) hookups
10:54 PM
this is before the wii project and the controller projects merged
10:54 PM
the wii console was in conceptual stages and had no association with this thing
10:54 PM
this is from 2001-2
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:54 PM
Woah!
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:54 PM
i remember seeing that photo once
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:54 PM
where :o
10:54 PM
as far as i know this is private
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:54 PM
That is slick my man
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:54 PM
a collector got ahold of it from EA
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:54 PM
i can't remember anymore at this point
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:55 PM
sent a few pics but isn't interested in selling or anything
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:55 PM
definitely been a while
10:55 PM
but I do recognize it
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:55 PM
not like i could pay a fair price for anything like THAT lmao
10:55 PM
what
10:55 PM
that got insta deleted
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:55 PM
I'd give anything for a GameCube Dev Unit or Test Unit
10:55 PM
If anyone knows of any
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:55 PM
the pics are supposed to be kept private to avoid interest in him but nah
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:55 PM
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:55 PM
actually yeah
10:55 PM
dev/test units for nintendo consoles are expensive but not impossible to find
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:56 PM
Hm
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:56 PM
the prices vary massively from listing to listing and you'll probably need several hundred dollars
10:56 PM
they're not cheap
10:56 PM
but at any one point you can find an ndev or gc test unit or whatever
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:56 PM
I like Dev Units and Secret Discs/Cards
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:56 PM
well then
10:56 PM
it's shameless self promo time https://discord.gg/kazafY2
10:56 PM
cause we're all about that lol
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:56 PM
And why did discord detect everything from "one" to "or" as a link
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:57 PM
also
10:57 PM
some of you may have heard of this already because of where its only documentation is
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:57 PM
And it wants to open it in Google Maps????
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:57 PM
but on hackmii years ago bushing found out about a wii "pre-repair check disk"
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:57 PM
Ignore the second d one
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:57 PM
i won't elaborate since all the info we have is there so you can just google it
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:57 PM
Meant to send the first one only
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:57 PM
but it's pretty interesting
10:57 PM
basically it's a homebrew scanner and remover tool for the wii
10:58 PM
made by nintendo to set off alerts if a wii in the repair shop has been modded
Incineroar 4/11/2018 10:58 PM
lol
10:58 PM
no homebrew channel 4 u
Jacob 4/11/2018 10:59 PM
I've never modded a wii surprisingly
10:59 PM
Because mine had a firmware version too new
10:59 PM
Sadly
Kelton 4/11/2018 10:59 PM
eh?
10:59 PM
you can mod a wii on latest fw
10:59 PM
and have been able to for uh
10:59 PM
8 years
11:00 PM
j-jesus christ
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:00 PM
Um
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:00 PM
a child born when you were first able to mod a last FW wii
11:00 PM
is now old enough
11:00 PM
to mod a wii
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:00 PM
LetterBomb / SSBB didn't work
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:00 PM
what the F U C K
11:00 PM
AAAA
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:00 PM
What?
Incineroar 4/11/2018 11:00 PM
yeah, letterbomb is 4.2 iirc
11:00 PM
er no
11:01 PM
bannerbomb
11:01 PM
letterbomb should work though on 4.3
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:01 PM
yeah i had a wii which letterbomb didn't work on
11:01 PM
twas strange
11:01 PM
bought the wii just to dump moviech when i was away from main wii
11:01 PM
and to have an RVL-001
old acc! inactive 4/11/2018 11:01 PM
there's also that internet channel exploit
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:01 PM
I used to have a Wii u but it had a heat stroke after I left it in a Cabinet for months and when I touched it again the fan wouldn't work
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:01 PM
sadly was LU64+
Incineroar 4/11/2018 11:01 PM
i used smashstack because letterbomb wasn't a thing yet
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:01 PM
@Jacob same but mine died of power surge
old acc! inactive 4/11/2018 11:01 PM
that nobody seems to remember since it was fairly recent
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
`backup disc, sonic solutions wii, preproduction boards 0 through 2-2, everything from the sdk 2.1, ios0, the lost version of ios9, the unused data in sysmenu 1.0 and 2.0, the early needclassic and needfreestyle banner options, all the ndev versions, the revolution emulator, the real name of the starlet, the dvdvideo library, the wiimote revisions including pause/refresh, the early classic controller patents, the early nunchuk button design, the autoboot title id, the recovery mode, the hidden functionality of the startup disc menu, ndev menu 1.02, 9/14, the fact that a single sound effect frm the wii sysmenu is present in a e3 2006 demo, said e3 2006 vc demo, the early factor 5 wiimote prototype thingy, miosv0 and bcv0, the fact that zelda tp was origianlly gonna be playable in gamecube mode with a wiimote on wii, the dates for a lot of things, the wii's pre-rvl development codename, the early versions of the sc library, everything from that ign article about the revolution, the fact that e3 2006 demo wiis were modified gamecubes, that weird blue screen on e3 2006 ndevs, the nintendo revolution screen, the fact that the wii had 2 sd card slots, the fact that the wii's nand driver has options for under 512mb, "sd card data onslaught", and i'm sure more i'm forgetting but i'm about to run out of characters` very partial/incomplete/old list of our findings from last year
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
I like the Demo discs for GameCube
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
we have found way more since and found out more about each of these things
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
I play with dolphin alot
old acc! inactive 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzS3KF7PxXU
RiiConnect24
FlashHax - New Exploit for the Wii using the Internet Channel!
11:02 PM
this is cool
Incineroar 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
my wii is hacked though so i can mess around with it
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
I need to learn alor about rom / disc decompiling because I'm very poor at it
Incineroar 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
oh right flashhax
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
Alot
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:02 PM
>decompiling
11:02 PM
you mean datamining
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:03 PM
However you mean
11:03 PM
I'm new
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:03 PM
unless we're talking about java
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:03 PM
:3
Incineroar 4/11/2018 11:03 PM
open in dolphin view file system save file as
11:03 PM
???
11:03 PM
profit
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:03 PM
I know how to extract files from ISOS with dolphin
Incineroar 4/11/2018 11:03 PM
it's literally half the work
11:04 PM
the other half is finding ways to manipulate the files
11:04 PM
that's where it varies wildly
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:04 PM
But I don't know how to read DOL, EFI, or GameCube Texture Files whichever extension that was i forgot
11:04 PM
Eight
11:04 PM
Right*
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:04 PM
fun fact
11:04 PM
even after wii dvd support was scrapped
11:04 PM
a separate model with support was planned for 2007
11:04 PM
in a partnership with Sonic Solutions (roxio)
11:05 PM
it never happened
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:05 PM
thank God
11:05 PM
A Sonic themed Wii? No thanks.
11:05 PM
Wait
11:05 PM
The game Sonic
11:05 PM
Or
11:05 PM
NVM
11:06 PM
Oh nvm
11:06 PM
I'm stupid I didn't understand what you meant for a second
Kelton 4/11/2018 11:06 PM
Sanic Solutions
11:07 PM
`the fact that a single sound effect frm the wii sysmenu is present in a e3 2006 demo`
11:07 PM
this is how high the autism levels are
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:10 PM
"Satanic Solutions" @Kelton
Laenthor 4/11/2018 11:18 PM
What is this conversation even?
Incineroar 4/11/2018 11:19 PM
Oh, @Kelton I got your request there
11:19 PM
Been a little focused on homework so
Jacob 4/11/2018 11:20 PM
About Wiis, GameCubes, and. Dev Consoles @Laenthor
Laenthor 4/11/2018 11:21 PM
I just saw these last few comments and I needed to go higher to understand XD
GerbilSoft 4/11/2018 11:58 PM
"everything from the sdk 2.1, ios0, the lost version of ios9,"
11:59 PM
a question about that
11:59 PM
did anyone in your group happen to come across my rvthtool program
11:59 PM
..hm, i can't find it anymore - but there was a pastebin entry listing an RVL test disc that used IOS4
12:01 AM
found part of it in channel history
12:01 AM
[5:25 PM] GerbilSoft: RVL_DIAG_Ver4_4 on IOS4 (?!!?!?!?!) [5:25 PM] GerbilSoft: DIAG_Ver3_1_1 (GameCube) (edited)
Kelton 4/12/2018 12:25 AM
MMM
12:25 AM
@GerbilSoft ok that is EXACTLY our sort of stuff
12:25 AM
did you see my wii factory writeup
12:25 AM
that provides a possible explanation for that
12:25 AM
where did you see that
12:25 AM
please respond when you get on we're very interested
12:26 AM
IOS4 is a pre-IOS9 IOS used for some factory discs, early versions of the dev menu, startup disc menu, etc.
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 12:33 AM
back
12:33 AM
alas i didn't save the pastebin
12:33 AM
but i found it in a listing from my rvthtool program that was on pastebin for a time
12:33 AM
https://github.com/GerbilSoft/rvthtool
GerbilSoft/rvthtool
rvthtool - RVT-H Tool
12:34 AM
rvthtool is a program that manages RVT-H Reader consoles (and is better than rvtwriter because it can actually dump images)
12:35 AM
@Kelton
Kelton 4/12/2018 12:35 AM
ah
12:35 AM
can it decrypt images?
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 12:35 AM
yes
12:35 AM
well
Kelton 4/12/2018 12:35 AM
oooo
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 12:35 AM
that isn't the main purpose
Kelton 4/12/2018 12:35 AM
i thought i heard nobody had the key for that
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 12:35 AM
the debug keys have been available for a while
Kelton 4/12/2018 12:35 AM
ok that could be helpful in the future, nice
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 12:35 AM
there's a recrypt function that can convert debug images to retail
12:35 AM
works for debug-encrypted
12:36 AM
i still need to verify recryption for RVT-H images that aren't encrypted
12:36 AM
(yes these are a thing)
12:36 AM
i tested it in dolphin and it didn't work, need to test on hw
12:36 AM
(dolphin hung on a white screen without even trying to start emulation, not sure why)
Kelton 4/12/2018 12:37 AM
so uh anyways, "diag" is the nintendo-speak for anything repair related, for example one of the functions in the sysmenu is IsDiagDisc to check if a disc has the autoboot title id flag GC_DIAG is presumably gc aging, RVL_DIAG is a bit unclear, see thing is the wii reads aging programs individually off an sd via that all.ini file, but there's probably more to the process and we aren't 100% sure on it since it uses ios4 it's most likely an early version
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 12:37 AM
ok
Kelton 4/12/2018 12:37 AM
the all.ini file itself is extremely interesting
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 12:37 AM
alas i have no idea who actually posted that pastebin, or where the files are
Kelton 4/12/2018 12:37 AM
and lists several programs intended for gamecube hardware and even wii prototype boards
12:37 AM
you should join https://discord.gg/kazafY2
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 1:51 AM
hm
1:51 AM
i just noticed the internal filename for melee (US) save files (edited)
1:51 AM
SuperSmashBros0110290334
1:51 AM
01/10/29 03:34
1:51 AM
October 29, 2001 03:34 AM
1:52 AM
US release date was Dec 3, 2001
1:52 AM
one month lead time?
divingkxt 4/12/2018 1:52 AM
Yeah, SSB was practically rushed out the door.
1:53 AM
And only came out when it did when Satoru Iwata stepped in and disassembled pretty much the entire game to squash a bunch of bugs that were troubling the development team.
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 1:53 AM
derp
1:53 AM
k, z
ゲームボーイ64 4/12/2018 1:54 AM
huh
Lewys (NUTLORD) 4/12/2018 6:24 AM
the irony being that Brawl got delayed at least twice yet has even more bugs and cut content
punk7890 4/12/2018 6:54 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/984384022510882816
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found leftover text relating to a debug menu in Monster Hunter https://t.co/tknwty1Esu Sadly, all debug functions were removed from the game.
6:54 AM
Nex 4/12/2018 7:10 AM
punk, did you check if the demo also has it stripped?
punk7890 4/12/2018 7:10 AM
I had some EU beta but nothing. I'll try the demo later
7:11 AM
they stripped all of the function names in the international releases which was interesting
7:14 AM
was there no Japanese demo? probably won't have any luck with an international demo
Nex 4/12/2018 7:19 AM
would need to check if there is a jp demo
Puffy Puff 4/12/2018 7:56 PM
hey i dunno if i should post this in here but its very important
7:56 PM
https://www.humblebundle.com/software/vegas-pro-creative-freedom-rebundle
Humble Software REBundle: VEGAS Pro: Discover Creative Freedom
Pay what you want for a bundle of software and support charity!
7:56 PM
Sony vegas for cheap, might be really handy
Smoke 4/12/2018 7:57 PM
it's not even sony vegas anymore
Puffy Puff 4/12/2018 7:57 PM
vegas pro, same deal
Smoke 4/12/2018 7:57 PM
eh
Puffy Puff 4/12/2018 7:57 PM
its 20 dollars instead of 800
Smoke 4/12/2018 7:57 PM
i prefer vegas 12
7:58 PM
it handles some video files better than 14
Puffy Puff 4/12/2018 7:58 PM
plus it comes with a couple miscellaneous image/music editing stuff
7:58 PM
jus' thought id spread this so people dont miss it
punk7890 4/12/2018 8:19 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/984586768895758336
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Chuukana Janshi Tenhoo Painyan (PS2) https://t.co/ZhBkIHpdnE The only thing that works correctly in this mode is listening to the game's voice files. Sadly, the debug menu doesn't render on screen anymore. Have a screensh...
8:19 PM
8:20 PM
Also 403 PS2 pages now on TCRF (edited)
GerbilSoft 4/12/2018 8:21 PM
PS2 now officially forbidden
leilei 4/12/2018 8:22 PM
are midway zeus games known to have ejb codes?
8:22 PM
still thinking about the grid
leilei 4/12/2018 8:29 PM
especially when the game's 2nd player is a linked machine
8:30 PM
which isn't emulated in mame
8:30 PM
(and if so it'd really be slow to emulate all 6 grid cabinets as it's already using 4 cores for one of them) (edited)
Andreelikes 4/12/2018 9:08 PM
https://tcrf.net/images/7/71/HMPDDTCA-bgtest.png That bird's name was Max from Talkman for the psp.
9:08 PM
https://tcrf.net/Hatsune_Miku:_Project_DIVA_Dreamy_Theater_Connection_App
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Dreamy Theater Connection App
9:09 PM
Is this supposed to be a screencap?
punk7890 4/12/2018 9:54 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/984610716425437184
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found an unused options menu in NBA In The Zone '98 (N64) https://t.co/5dzY1u5Pra Unfortunately, it does not work anymore. A function was removed from the game to make this menu properly work.
9:54 PM
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/12/2018 9:59 PM
nice!
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:07 PM
Kirby Star Allies is being datamined
10:07 PM
And some unused content have been found... including an unannounced Dream Friend that wasn't known before.
10:08 PM
(no update data, just 1.0.0 data)
Simon The Digger 4/12/2018 10:19 PM
Who is it
General Instrument CP1610 1979 4/12/2018 10:20 PM
Toro Inoue
old acc! inactive 4/12/2018 10:21 PM
sans undertale
tape 4/12/2018 10:27 PM
is it escargoon
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:27 PM
Hyness
tape 4/12/2018 10:27 PM
i can't even tell if you're bullshitting
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:27 PM
I'm not bullshitting you.
10:28 PM
For some reason
10:28 PM
He's in the Hero folder with the other friends and dream friends
tape 4/12/2018 10:28 PM
has the threshold for kirby spoilers passed yet
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:28 PM
I'm not even sure anymore
tape 4/12/2018 10:28 PM
though i guess he's not SUPER spoilery since he's in the intro
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:28 PM
He's in the intro yeah
10:29 PM
Anyway he has textures for second player, third and fourth
10:29 PM
So it's quite there.
tape 4/12/2018 10:29 PM
i remember hearing that magolor was considered for dream friend but scrapped
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:29 PM
just no message file for a move list
tape 4/12/2018 10:29 PM
from a datamine
10:29 PM
of a demo iirc?
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:29 PM
Actually I wouldn't say he's even scrapped at this point
10:29 PM
There's a single file
10:29 PM
"CommandMagolor.msbt"
10:30 PM
Has no text but is meant for move lists
tape 4/12/2018 10:30 PM
magolor definitely feels very likely for later inclusion
10:30 PM
assuming they release the later waves in order of character appearance
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:30 PM
It's also in the demo
10:30 PM
I doubt it's scrapped
10:30 PM
And really
10:31 PM
HAL has no reason to stop making updates since Kirby Star Allies is shaping up to be one of the most successful Kirby games
10:31 PM
And anyway
ゲームボーイ64 4/12/2018 10:31 PM
because the switch is selling like the DS did
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:31 PM
Magolor as a Dream Friend is a given
10:31 PM
He's too popular to not be in the game (edited)
tape 4/12/2018 10:32 PM
since the first dlc wave was KDL2 (animal buddies) -> Super Star (marx) -> KDL3 (even though gooey had a minor cameo in KDL2 first)
10:33 PM
can't really predict anything with just one wave though
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:33 PM
also
10:33 PM
There's unused music
10:34 PM
Nothing that exciting though
10:34 PM
Taranza's theme from Team Kirby Clash Deluxe is in there
10:34 PM
Unused
old acc! inactive 4/12/2018 10:34 PM
taranza for dream friend?
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:34 PM
Taranza is also a given for Dream Friend
10:34 PM
Heck
old acc! inactive 4/12/2018 10:34 PM
also final boss medley
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:35 PM
HAL even acknowledged a japanese meme of Taranza.
10:35 PM
by simply putting it in the game
10:35 PM
Taranza holding a flower
old acc! inactive 4/12/2018 10:35 PM
where's the source for the music tho?
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:35 PM
That's the meme itself
old acc! inactive 4/12/2018 10:35 PM
all i hear about is the hyness recolors
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:35 PM
vgm.hcs64.com for music
old acc! inactive 4/12/2018 10:35 PM
n ice
LuigiBlood 4/12/2018 10:35 PM
I'm the source for the info though
10:35 PM
I have all the files as well
10:36 PM
for Hyness it's someone else
10:36 PM
also there's a music file with a full medley of the final boss theme
10:36 PM
with transitions and everything
10:36 PM
I think it's used, just not in the sound test
divingkxt 4/13/2018 1:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj8xZ8SqsiY
GameHut
Developers At War!
1:52 AM
Hah.
Simon The Digger 4/13/2018 2:03 AM
I wonder what you get if you nail one of the two dudes in the face with every tomato
up gghhh8 4/13/2018 6:46 AM
Anyone managed to look inside for content inside Superstar saga remake for 3DS? The only info I could find was some OoT content in the files according to a person while back in a different server. (edited)
punk7890 4/13/2018 8:04 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/984764059546402816
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Aria The Origination: ~Aoi Hoshi no El Cielo~ (PS2) https://t.co/z2AyzmAwae Contains quite a bit of stuff in it for a visual novel game. Can unlock everything, listen to SFX (which has full, unused descriptions of the SFX...
8:04 AM
Tsugato 4/13/2018 8:44 AM
So, I've been eyeing a game nobody seemed to pick up on and dig through. The game's name is Thrill Kill.
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/13/2018 9:15 AM
nice!
Tsugato 4/13/2018 9:22 AM
One thing is, mounting the game to a drive, Windows Media Player picked up a album, currently featuring 13 tracks.
9:23 AM
Definitely badass for PS1 standards.
9:26 AM
I love when PS1 games have OSTs implanted in the disc.
Simon The Digger 4/13/2018 12:46 PM
Oh, that's the game that got turned into that Wu Tang Clan game
Borman 4/13/2018 12:52 PM
There are a few versions of Thrill Kill out there, so make sure to identify which
1
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/13/2018 12:59 PM
I found debug mode in Generation of Chaos. https://tcrf.net/Generation_of_Chaos
Generation of Chaos
Nex 4/13/2018 1:02 PM
nice find
Paulweeze71 4/13/2018 2:38 PM
TommyD 4/13/2018 3:46 PM
So close, we might have the first Xband match in over 20 years by Monday
moonie 4/13/2018 4:24 PM
@TommyD holy crap, source?!
Nex 4/13/2018 5:42 PM
I wish they would release atleast one
5:42 PM
now that the project is dead
5:42 PM
was looking forward to the game
Paulweeze71 4/13/2018 5:45 PM
☎ 4/13/2018 5:57 PM
assets for the game will be reused
5:57 PM
so comparisons will be fun.
Nex 4/13/2018 6:20 PM
atleast that
punk7890 4/13/2018 7:05 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ Nice work
SirenaBeach 4/13/2018 7:22 PM
I think Bast accidentally deleted the entire Blooper swimming gif
☎ 4/13/2018 9:17 PM
Is there any unused content in Fortnite?
9:18 PM
The game had an interesting dev cycle
leilei 4/13/2018 9:48 PM
it's fun to see it morph from a tf2 knockoff to a pubg knockoff
9:48 PM
and then a quasi-related radical heights comes and is widely hated for being a pubg knockoff
9:49 PM
it's like only one ego is allowed to make battle royale games
9:49 PM
but that's a different story
9:50 PM
Paladins also had a similar development cycle
9:51 PM
and that is UE3 so it should be very diggable
9:51 PM
i'm sure when valve announces a battle royale game no one will complain about it when gaben does it
9:52 PM
we'll see
Deleted User 4/13/2018 10:00 PM
I actually like Fortnite AMA
Laenthor 4/13/2018 10:53 PM
Free to play games just scream annoying communities to me, so I don't even bother.
Kelton 4/13/2018 10:53 PM
Same
10:54 PM
Fuck
10:54 PM
Ninjad
10:54 PM
Same to whovian
10:54 PM
I had 53 minutes and get ninjad
Laenthor 4/13/2018 10:54 PM
why is all your text barred?
Kelton 4/13/2018 10:54 PM
cause autism
10:54 PM
it's my typing style
10:54 PM
:^)
10:55 PM
yea this prob isnt helping ur reputation of fortnite players
10:55 PM
im a downie mcautismman so
Deleted User 4/13/2018 10:56 PM
Aren't you also like 14, Bees?
Revenant 4/13/2018 11:01 PM
clearly
EdTheNerd 4/13/2018 11:23 PM
Laenthor 4/13/2018 11:44 PM
I got dissed for posting a meme picture slightly relating to autism so I'd advise you to tone it down just a tad (aka completely)
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Neko May 4/14/2018 12:54 AM
As long as you're not being disrespectful towards those with disabilities or who are members of protected/disadvantaged classes you should be fine here.
12:54 AM
IOW: Don't be a dick
leilei 4/14/2018 1:23 AM
also there's been a bit of homophobic 'jokes' on this discord in the past couple days
1:24 AM
not saying names or pointing fingers
Dezent 4/14/2018 1:24 AM
1:24 AM
What about a finger
Neko May 4/14/2018 1:27 AM
@leilei: Be sure to flag those when you see them. We definitely want to be removing that sort of thing from here.
1:28 AM
Like @Xkeeper says, handle the toxins before they spread.
1:28 AM
It's a good policy and keeps TCRF a good, safe place.
Dezent 4/14/2018 1:31 AM
throws nuclear waste material around
1:31 AM
muahahaha
Xkeeper 4/14/2018 1:34 AM
@leilei no, do point fingers
1:34 AM
and preferrably mention them to me either in dm (w/ quote/screenshot) or here
1:34 AM
that shit is not tolerated
leilei 4/14/2018 1:38 AM
the most eregious incident of them (edited)
1:39 AM
and not the only one (edited)
Dezent 4/14/2018 1:39 AM
Bit of OT, but square avatars in Discord?
leilei 4/14/2018 1:39 AM
an old version of stylish (edited)
Dezent 4/14/2018 1:39 AM
Aaah right
leilei 4/14/2018 1:40 AM
the before stylish sold out and broke all scripts and tracks you version
Dezent 4/14/2018 1:41 AM
wait whot
1:41 AM
When did this happen?
leilei 4/14/2018 1:41 AM
nov 2017
Dezent 4/14/2018 1:41 AM
...hm
1:41 AM
Well then
leilei 4/14/2018 1:41 AM
the last good version is 2.0.7
Dezent 4/14/2018 1:42 AM
And I'm on 3.0 something
1:43 AM
Eh, I only use it for reddit to replace those godawful circle icons
leilei 4/14/2018 1:43 AM
i first instlaled it when i needed to fix the fonts in discord from being too thin and unreadable and constantly fluctuating themselves in web 3.0ey ways (edited)
Dezent 4/14/2018 1:43 AM
Mmm
Xkeeper 4/14/2018 3:16 AM
I booted that guy ⬆
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3:16 AM
don't want that shit here even if someone thinks it's funny
1
Deleted User 4/14/2018 3:19 AM
I don't think it's funny
Xkeeper 4/14/2018 3:19 AM
it isnt
Chorus Line 4/14/2018 3:20 AM
epic memes
3:20 AM
Found unused rooms in the Yoshi's Island DS Kiosk Demo. The Enemy Museum is entirely unfinished and it seems they wanted to have boss exhibits
Hiccup 4/14/2018 3:27 AM
which file(s) is that?
Chorus Line 4/14/2018 3:30 AM
Most of the boss exhibits are 13w1106 through 13w1115 (edited)
3:36 AM
You can get 'em to load w/o warps by editing 0-1_d3.crsb and startin the demo
Hiccup 4/14/2018 3:55 AM
ah I see, it only exists in the demo.
punk7890 4/14/2018 6:13 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/985098625146486784
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few debug modes in NHL Blades of Steel '99 (N64) https://t.co/mVSVbwTZki Contains free camera & player movement modes, a sound test, and a debug menu. The debug menu doesn't work anymore, unfortunately.
6:13 AM
MysticSageJosh 4/14/2018 7:56 AM
challenge
7:56 AM
make the world's worst game in like
7:56 AM
..how much time did they have to make it?
7:56 AM
i think it was like..
7:56 AM
2 weeks or two days
MysticSageJosh 4/14/2018 8:15 AM
oh
8:15 AM
well for like two days
8:15 AM
the game.. still sucks, but they managed to make a bootable game in two days
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/14/2018 8:16 AM
why did they have two days again?
MysticSageJosh 4/14/2018 8:16 AM
they wanted to make the world's worst game
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/14/2018 8:16 AM
did they really?
MysticSageJosh 4/14/2018 8:16 AM
i think
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/14/2018 8:16 AM
if so thats pretty great
MysticSageJosh 4/14/2018 8:17 AM
I'm not 100% sure about it, but i think they wanted to give nintendo the middle finger or something
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/14/2018 8:21 AM
hmmm
8:21 AM
sounds interesting
Netscape Navigator 4/14/2018 8:31 AM
his friend was an Enix employee so only had a couple of days free to do the programming
Deleted User 4/14/2018 8:47 AM
Lol
Nex 4/14/2018 9:11 AM
someone got kicked? (edited)
Dezent 4/14/2018 9:14 AM
Whatd'ya mean?
Paulweeze71 4/14/2018 9:15 AM
Nex 4/14/2018 9:16 AM
Dezent 4/14/2018 9:17 AM
wait wait wait what? O_O
9:17 AM
uh
9:17 AM
There's some serious fuckery going on, because I never actually saw that message, not until I refreshed
Ziella 4/14/2018 9:20 AM
Question, since in Danganronpa v3, the school uniform sprites are based on their talent uniform sprites, should I add the used sprite that it's based on for comparison? Or not?
9:20 AM
For example, this one is unused. https://tcrf.net/images/7/7b/Danganronpa_V3_KaitoSchoolUniform1.png
9:21 AM
But this one is used. (edited)
Mine18 4/14/2018 11:39 AM
holy shit i found a method to access the debug mode in Bloody Roar 2
11:39 AM
aaaaaa pretty excited to make a page
Klitlika 4/14/2018 12:16 PM
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12:21 PM
.xml FILES, no encyption, i've already made hundreds of mods to this game... Rag Doll Kung Fu PS3 it runs in RPCS3 quite well, private server for multiplayer would be a great project for this one i think... the reason i'm here is mainly the many leftovers, Network play + Panda + Bear costumes, found leftover icons + textures + even unused 3d meshes... (edited)
12:25 PM
you can see the bear which they never made a lower body part for in-game here... editing the various .xml for the AI premade looks you can actually fight varied opponents, i've mainly unlocked what was there for use + made the combat more adult friendly...
Simon The Digger 4/14/2018 1:31 PM
looks up
1:32 PM
The other cartridge next to Hong Kong '97 in that picture is Bishojo (Pretty Young Girl) Columns
1:36 PM
I didn't even know there were any Columns games on the SNES, bootleg or otherwise
Revenant 4/14/2018 1:48 PM
there is a licensed one and also a bootleg/homebrew (pornographic) one, pretty sure that cart is the latter
1:52 PM
the licensed one was only released as a download via nintendo power circa 1999
leilei 4/14/2018 3:26 PM
and the porn one's from 94 and nicks music from some other game, some port of an arcade shmup (edited)
leilei 4/14/2018 3:44 PM
it was Blazeon
Revenant 4/14/2018 3:47 PM
blazeon's music was one of the few over-ripped game soundtracks then
3:47 PM
it was also used in the first SNES homebrew to have sound (in 92)
SirenaBeach 4/14/2018 5:43 PM
I misread "professional" as "professor" and thought you were referring to Professor E. Gadd
leilei 4/14/2018 7:38 PM
yes
7:40 PM
just because it's made to blend for a white background doesn't imply it's an instant mspaint hack job
punk7890 4/14/2018 10:30 PM
hi
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/14/2018 10:30 PM
hey
Paulweeze71 4/14/2018 10:32 PM
10:32 PM
awaits newly found debug menu...
punk7890 4/14/2018 10:32 PM
soon
Paulweeze71 4/14/2018 10:32 PM
punk7890 4/14/2018 10:36 PM
sneak peak
10:36 PM
too much stuff to document though, hopefully someone wants to document more sometime
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/14/2018 10:39 PM
namco game?
punk7890 4/14/2018 10:41 PM
Bloody Roar 3, Konami published
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/14/2018 10:54 PM
oh right
10:54 PM
the cat head threw me off lol
10:55 PM
you run pcsx2 in software render?
punk7890 4/14/2018 10:56 PM
only to render debug menus.
10:56 PM
sometimes it doesn't display correctly in Direct3D
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/14/2018 11:01 PM
ic
11:01 PM
oh yea
11:01 PM
did they ever implement ps1?
punk7890 4/14/2018 11:02 PM
I think so
punk7890 4/14/2018 11:10 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/985354570338455552
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found some extra debug menus in Bloody Roar 3 (PS2). If anyone would like to document / play around with them, the codes to access them are on my TCRF user page: https://t.co/74smOjKsfR
11:10 PM
Paulweeze71 4/14/2018 11:12 PM
GerbilSoft 4/14/2018 11:19 PM
6
2
divingkxt 4/14/2018 11:22 PM
Astrogrep is one small step.
punk7890 4/14/2018 11:28 PM
@GerbilSoft soon™
ecumber 4/14/2018 11:46 PM
guys
11:46 PM
i found kirby star allies
11:47 PM
i dumped it (edited)
11:47 PM
and i found some unused stuff
11:47 PM
11:47 PM
like this
divingkxt 4/14/2018 11:48 PM
Have to wonder what's in that.
11:48 PM
(As in, does it have textures, models, or sounds inside that file?)
old acc! inactive 4/14/2018 11:57 PM
that isn't unused
11:57 PM
it's the hand for the "Game Over" screen
cykochip 4/15/2018 12:09 AM
cmp stores textures
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 12:09 AM
lol always such a bummer
GerbilSoft 4/15/2018 12:09 AM
bfres
12:09 AM
did they just forget to rename it
12:09 AM
or is it the same format as wii u
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 12:10 AM
PSX Mode for PS2 is actually pretty impressive stuff
12:10 AM
https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/wiki/PSX-mode
PCSX2/pcsx2
pcsx2 - PCSX2 - The Playstation 2 Emulator
GerbilSoft 4/15/2018 12:11 AM
"Beginning with consumer hardware (SCPH-7500x), IOP is emulated on a PPC processor (IBM PPC 405GP) with the DECKARD emulator."
12:11 AM
lol wut
12:14 AM
...oh
12:14 AM
https://www.geek.com/games/latest-ps2-has-compatibility-issues-560422/
Matthew Humphries
Latest PS2 has compatibility issues - Geek.com
the forthcoming release of the satin silver slimline playstation 2 in japan is not only a color change, but also the introduction of a new model (scph-75000). the new model contains new hardware, …
12:14 AM
that coincides with this
12:15 AM
(don't read the comments)
divingkxt 4/15/2018 12:47 AM
https://tcrf.net/Columns_(SNES)
Columns (SNES)
12:47 AM
Most inexplicable game port ever.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 12:48 AM
hah
12:48 AM
i get it
12:49 AM
thats what you should put as the intro
GerbilSoft 4/15/2018 1:02 AM
...Columns for SNES?
1:02 AM
in 1999?
1:02 AM
is that a licensed title or a bootleg
1:04 AM
https://superfamicom.org/info/columns huh, it is licensed (edited)
Columns (SNES)
Columns by メディアファクトリー / マリーガル/セガ・エンタープライゼス / Media Factory / Marigul / Sega Enterprises released on 1999-08-01
1:04 AM
z
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 1:12 AM
hreh
1:12 AM
playing SOTN via that mode is....not ideal
1:13 AM
but i always like doing emulators inside emulators
leilei 4/15/2018 1:43 AM
when it was first committed.... i had to do this
ゲームボーイ64 4/15/2018 1:44 AM
The ps1 mode?
punk7890 4/15/2018 2:15 AM
I bring debug https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/985401060855504896
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in I/O (PS2) https://t.co/n2RZqjjsnM This is the same debug menu that is also found in Aria The Origination: ~Aoi Hoshi no El Cielo~. Contains image viewers, sound tests, unlock everything and more. This game also has full d...
2:15 AM
Neko May 4/15/2018 2:26 AM
Sony never could manage to do anything without fucking it all up.
saitama 4/15/2018 2:42 AM
h
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Athena 悠里マヤ 4/15/2018 3:25 AM
@punk7890 nice!
punk7890 4/15/2018 4:44 AM
thanks
Deleted User 4/15/2018 6:59 AM
Good afternoon, guys!
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Dezent 4/15/2018 7:01 AM
https://www.tenor.co/qJZq.gif
Deleted User 4/15/2018 7:08 AM
@karmic Any idea about her iirc's name?
MysticSageJosh 4/15/2018 10:19 AM
I wonder if someone's gonna add about how in GH2's demos there were gonna be drums
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/15/2018 11:41 AM
buenos dias mandy
Smoke 4/15/2018 2:10 PM
buenas tardes amigo (edited)
Dio-ZX (aka William0918) 4/15/2018 2:16 PM
I'm finally getting around to posting screenshots of the Convoy No Nazo pre-release video.
Dio-ZX (aka William0918) 4/15/2018 2:31 PM
Hold on. I forgot to take a screenshot of the 4th boss in the final game.
Deleted User 4/15/2018 3:21 PM
Nex 4/15/2018 3:29 PM
UwU
ecumber 4/15/2018 3:34 PM
i dont know if anyone has posted this before but the build data of super mario odyssey is r:14938 p:NX64 v:Release d:2017-07-11 17:51 n:0.6.10
GerbilSoft 4/15/2018 5:27 PM
>2017
5:27 PM
>still using svn
Simon The Digger 4/15/2018 6:30 PM
Y'all know about UwU
6:31 PM
But do you know about (0w0), (0H0), and (0M0)
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 6:43 PM
>=^]
Neko May 4/15/2018 7:03 PM
>w>
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 7:22 PM
oh me
Laenthor 4/15/2018 7:23 PM
https://youtu.be/VhrJ7Y9Pn8k
Ashkii
OwO what's this
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 7:27 PM
jeeze
7:27 PM
just realized Stone Temple Pilots are still going
7:28 PM
thats 2 singers suicide
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 7:31 PM
Jeeze indeed
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 7:33 PM
gotta give it to them for that perseverance
7:34 PM
or curse? lol
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 7:34 PM
The reality that is Spinal Tap
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 7:37 PM
hahahah
7:37 PM
was it their drummer?
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 7:37 PM
Yep
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 7:41 PM
needs to watch that again
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 7:42 PM
same here, been a min
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 7:44 PM
ichiba.geocities.jp/ysai187/PS2/PSX.htm
7:44 PM
more than I was aware of on that model
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 7:46 PM
Noice, pretty in-depth. I've got a psx but not the most desirable model
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 7:48 PM
oh nice
7:48 PM
what did it cost you
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 7:48 PM
Trying to remember but around $200-300 with the remote and terminal d cable
7:49 PM
Don't have the controller and it's missing the lid (edited)
7:50 PM
Got these on the same day
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 7:56 PM
nifty
7:56 PM
got one of these?
7:56 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panasonic_Q (edited)
Panasonic Q
The Panasonic Q (sometimes known as Q and GameQ) is a hybrid version of the GameCube with a DVD player manufactured by Panasonic in cooperation with Nintendo. The system was officially released only in Japan. A feature of its main competitors Xbo...
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/15/2018 7:59 PM
looks like a toaster/microwave
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 7:59 PM
I wish, I was gonna trade for one in the day but never happened
leilei 4/15/2018 8:01 PM
is there a vcr / gamecube hybrid too
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:01 PM
If not, their should be
leilei 4/15/2018 8:01 PM
i know there's crappy vcr/tv combos
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:01 PM
Super Betaz
leilei 4/15/2018 8:01 PM
those are the worst when a tape gets stuck
8:02 PM
the only other console combos i can think of are 3do blasters for PCs and the amstrad megapcs (386SX + PAL Sega Megadrive) which the US never got (edited)
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:03 PM
Sharp TV w/ the NES built in
Huks 4/15/2018 8:03 PM
There was a Sony Bravia TV with a PS2 built in
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 8:05 PM
thought there were more
8:05 PM
hmm
8:05 PM
Sharp had Twin Fami
8:05 PM
but i guess thats not really a combo
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:06 PM
Still a cool piece
leilei 4/15/2018 8:06 PM
a c128 also has a c64 in it
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:07 PM
Can't forget Nintendo's portable n64..
8:07 PM
GerbilSoft 4/15/2018 8:07 PM
the Sharp NES TV apparently used an RGB PPU
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:08 PM
Just like my av fami
GerbilSoft 4/15/2018 8:08 PM
wait
8:08 PM
what is that
8:08 PM
is that a custom portable n64
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:08 PM
leilei 4/15/2018 8:08 PM
what's with the bilinear filtering
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:09 PM
It's definitely not the best build
leilei 4/15/2018 8:09 PM
assuming it's a mupen64plus'd arm device of some kind
divingkxt 4/15/2018 8:09 PM
@GerbilSoft Yes
8:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PntgEooCZmk
Jacob Carr Allen
The Pocket64 - World's Smallest N64 Portable
GerbilSoft 4/15/2018 8:10 PM
k
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:10 PM
Nice find
GerbilSoft 4/15/2018 8:10 PM
meanwhile, EdTheNerd has the world's largest 3DS
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8:10 PM
:V
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:10 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 8:12 PM
wasnt there an official one tho
8:12 PM
chinese or smthn
8:13 PM
iQue
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:14 PM
Yeah, but it didn't use carts
8:14 PM
still wants one...
divingkxt 4/15/2018 8:15 PM
8:15 PM
It kind of did.
8:16 PM
But not the same way as the N64.
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:17 PM
Weren't the games downloadable?
8:17 PM
Via a kiosk or something?
divingkxt 4/15/2018 8:17 PM
Yes.
8:17 PM
Would have been downloaded on the memory card.
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:17 PM
Sounds about right
divingkxt 4/15/2018 8:17 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 8:18 PM
similar to what they did in japan
8:18 PM
with fds etc
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:19 PM
Yep, and those official SNES and gbc carts
8:19 PM
This is very official
8:19 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 8:20 PM
huh
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:20 PM
Revenant 4/15/2018 8:20 PM
lol "NUS-NM4E" is mortal kombat 4
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:20 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 8:21 PM
here ya go Paul, now's yr chance
8:21 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Modified-Panasonic-Q-Gamecube-with-Games-Accessories-Controllers-Import-Mod-/162963249356
Modified Panasonic Q Gamecube with Games, Accessories, Controllers...
Modification switch is the red button shown on the bottom of the console. System is in pristine working condition. Panasonic Q DVD Remote (DVD compatibility is for Japan only). Battle Houshin (JPN Import). | eBay!
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:21 PM
But, but, it's totally official...
8:21 PM
(edited)
8:22 PM
Ahh, hell no...
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 8:22 PM
hahaha
8:22 PM
yep
8:22 PM
"brand new" tho
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:22 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 4/15/2018 8:23 PM
and i'd rather have one not modded
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 8:24 PM
Yeah, I'd use a standard cube for modding and leave a Panasonic q stock
8:26 PM
Paul Coin Repository
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/15/2018 9:29 PM
dude i absolutely hate how much stuff i need to write on patapon 3's tcrf
9:30 PM
i dont have enough time in my day to finish a single subpage
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 9:32 PM
Some games/betas just have too much to sift through
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/15/2018 9:32 PM
jokes on me
9:32 PM
i sifted through
9:32 PM
every single beta this game has
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 9:32 PM
Rip
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:05 PM
hi
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:06 PM
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:07 PM
soon
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:07 PM
1
1
1
1
11:08 PM
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:16 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/985718206307352576
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug display and 24 hidden cheats in Top Gear Rally 2 (N64) https://t.co/okaVJ9mxlv There is a lot of developer messages as cheats in this game. Some of the cheats are also neat, like Kamakazi AI which makes all AI out to get you.
11:16 PM
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:16 PM
Lit
11:16 PM
You look into the beta as well?
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:17 PM
there's a beta? First I've heard of it
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:17 PM
Yeppers
divingkxt 4/15/2018 11:18 PM
I wonder if any lost movies can be found within games.
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:19 PM
@Paulweeze71 Cool, I'll check it out sometime
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:19 PM
11:19 PM
Keep up the good work btw
leilei 4/15/2018 11:19 PM
yukes games and tiger woods 99 is all i can think of on the top of my head
11:19 PM
there's got to be more interesting dummy fillers out there
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:20 PM
@divingkxt That would be interesting. Has there been anything like that in the past before?
divingkxt 4/15/2018 11:21 PM
None to my knowledge.
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:21 PM
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:23 PM
Not really hidden, but I remember the PS2 transformers prototype had Star Wars movie clips in it
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:23 PM
The one I released?
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:23 PM
Not sure who released it
11:23 PM
it's on hiddenpalace (edited)
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:24 PM
This one?
11:24 PM
http://hiddenpalace.org/Transformers:_Armada_(Nov_10,_2003_prototype)
Transformers: Armada (Nov 10, 2003 prototype)
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:25 PM
Yeah. Nice release. I didn't know you released it
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:25 PM
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:25 PM
Bummer that it doesn't appear to work on a real ps2 though
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:25 PM
I didn't know about the star wars video
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:26 PM
yeah it's in the movie folder
11:26 PM
as the PSS videos
Deleted User 4/15/2018 11:26 PM
lol
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:26 PM
Hello
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:26 PM
Deleted User 4/15/2018 11:27 PM
>007: The World is Not Enough (Prototype)
11:27 PM
oh nice I had a look at that briefly
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:27 PM
@punk7890 these are some of my releases, I've done a few more not credited to me http://hiddenpalace.org/Paulweeze71
Paulweeze71
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:27 PM
that proto is interesting
11:27 PM
(TWINE)
leilei 4/15/2018 11:28 PM
has anything ever leaked of the ps2/pc world is not enough
11:28 PM
before that got canned for agent under fire
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:28 PM
nope
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:28 PM
I think that was the one I found that debug menu in? it didn't work that well though
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:28 PM
i think screenshots maybe
Deleted User 4/15/2018 11:28 PM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/914628416422506498
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
Some debug related strings in the TWINE proto. May also be in final, @NWPlayer123 is working on a script to help me better analyze final.
11:28 PM
@punk7890 lol
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:28 PM
@Deleted User yeah that's the debug menu
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:28 PM
Ahh, I remember that tweet
Deleted User 4/15/2018 11:28 PM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/914631269924917248
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
Debug strings are not present in the US final release of TWINE.
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:29 PM
nope, they went bye bye
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:29 PM
oof
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:29 PM
@Paulweeze71 cool releases
leilei 4/15/2018 11:29 PM
all i've found while digging agent under fire is "yep they did indeed base their code off Quake3 version 1.16"
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:29 PM
Thanks
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:30 PM
I found the unused cutscene menu in final game by using the debug menu
11:30 PM
all text is gone from the menu though
leilei 4/15/2018 11:30 PM
though none of the file formats are the same and are all proprietary ea formats
11:30 PM
those would need extracting+converting for more thorough investigation
11:31 PM
interesting development history though
11:31 PM
and it was the last bond game i ever looked forward to (as twine pc)
divingkxt 4/15/2018 11:31 PM
@CrashOveride Long time, no see Lemurboy.
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:32 PM
im not lemur
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:32 PM
The only game I've restored a debug menu in...
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:32 PM
if you want to find him he's at the VG-Resource server
11:32 PM
leilei 4/15/2018 11:34 PM
my only debug find
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:35 PM
We're not worthy! We're not worthy!
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:35 PM
lol
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:36 PM
I only managed to restore it because there was a leftover edat on a test unit I got
11:39 PM
Deleted User 4/15/2018 11:39 PM
what game
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:40 PM
Dead Nation
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/15/2018 11:40 PM
@CrashOveride you should invite him here (edited)
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:40 PM
11:40 PM
idk i dont know if he'll give a shit
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Dezent 4/15/2018 11:41 PM
Can't hurt to try, right?
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:41 PM
let me see if he's on
11:42 PM
11:43 PM
wat do i say to him so i dont sound like a self-advertising prick
darkwitchclaire 4/15/2018 11:44 PM
Tell him that TCRF is the best site on the planet and if he doesn't come over you're legally allowed to send the mafia after him
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:44 PM
lol
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:45 PM
Mafia is coming...
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:45 PM
punk7890 4/15/2018 11:45 PM
lol
Dezent 4/15/2018 11:45 PM
"TCRF is the bestest site, just ask from anyone and they'll agree with me, it's the bestest. Ask from anyone who hasn't even heard about it, and they'll say yes"
11:45 PM
Say that
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:45 PM
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:46 PM
Best-Est
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:49 PM
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:49 PM
Test Fat
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:51 PM
anyone got an invite
11:52 PM
nvm
JacobLenstar 4/15/2018 11:53 PM
hello folks
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/15/2018 11:53 PM
welcome
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:54 PM
Dezent 4/15/2018 11:54 PM
Heyo
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:54 PM
JacobLenstar 4/15/2018 11:54 PM
divingkxt 4/15/2018 11:54 PM
I'm still around.
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:54 PM
JacobLenstar 4/15/2018 11:55 PM
you really like that low poly mugman, don't you
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:55 PM
yes
11:55 PM
i made emojis lol
11:55 PM
11:55 PM
Laenthor 4/15/2018 11:55 PM
If this could somehow become an emote on here I would be so proud XD
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:56 PM
aaaaaaaa
11:56 PM
also #deleted-channel
Laenthor 4/15/2018 11:56 PM
yeah maybe oops
11:56 PM
Thought I was in off-topic my bad
JacobLenstar 4/15/2018 11:57 PM
I found this in Mario Party 3
11:57 PM
11:57 PM
a snuffit
11:57 PM
I don't recall one ever appearing in the game
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:58 PM
isn't that the Sm64 model
11:58 PM
looks like it
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:58 PM
Looks exactly like sm64
JacobLenstar 4/15/2018 11:58 PM
Laenthor 4/15/2018 11:58 PM
Maybe a comparison is in order
JacobLenstar 4/15/2018 11:58 PM
well I mean
11:58 PM
it is N64 mario
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:59 PM
JacobLenstar 4/15/2018 11:59 PM
it is not the same model
11:59 PM
snuffit in mario 64 used a flat sphere texture
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:59 PM
oh
Paulweeze71 4/15/2018 11:59 PM
Hmm
CrashOveride 4/15/2018 11:59 PM
Laenthor 4/15/2018 11:59 PM
Oh yeah right behind the mask you're right
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:00 AM
also found an earlier model of waluigi
12:00 AM
different proportions and brighter overalls (edited)
divingkxt 4/16/2018 12:00 AM
Doesn't really look right.
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:00 AM
Wah
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 12:00 AM
wah
divingkxt 4/16/2018 12:00 AM
Not off-model, but definitely seems more normally proportioned.
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:01 AM
he's not as tall
12:01 AM
therefore not as waluigi
12:01 AM
also found this in mario party 2
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 12:01 AM
jesus
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:01 AM
were there koopa kid tanks in that one minigame?
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 12:01 AM
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:02 AM
I found the picture I wanted but it might be too late
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:02 AM
oh
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 12:02 AM
lol
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:02 AM
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JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:02 AM
yeah in minigame coaster
12:02 AM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:02 AM
x!avatar
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12:02 AM
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CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:02 AM
heh
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 12:02 AM
kek
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:02 AM
on ebay I found this early screenshot of kirby's adventure the other day
12:03 AM
just a photograph
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:03 AM
Nice health bar
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:03 AM
there's a star counter and different health bar (edited)
12:03 AM
is there anything else noticable?
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 12:03 AM
not really
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:04 AM
Don't think so. Haven't played this is a while so the one-eyed beam enemy looks a bit weird to me but it'S probably the same as in the final
leilei 4/16/2018 12:04 AM
kirby isn't pink
12:04 AM
but that's probably some grayscaling doing that
12:04 AM
causing the hill to also be bright
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:05 AM
weird early screenshot of spongebob revenge of the flying dutchman
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:05 AM
The pic doesn't have the best lighting so yeah
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:05 AM
ooo
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:05 AM
the game felt like a fever dream
12:05 AM
this looks even more surreal somehow
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:06 AM
the speedrunning community for the game discovered how to skip the entire pier section of goo lagoon
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:06 AM
12:06 AM
this is in the background in the goo lagoon slider puzzle (edited)
12:06 AM
you don't even see it
12:06 AM
every world has a weird early screenshot of the world
12:06 AM
this is the only one I seem to have saved
12:07 AM
after playing through the game
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GiYRMt_z4 literally belly flop into the water to grab the jellyfish and coin tiles early, and you don't have to crawl through the pier wreckage collecting coins
Pherris Pheal
Goo Lagoon is dead(jf and coin tile early) RotFD
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:07 AM
Oh man I completely forgot about these pics. I was supposed to upload them months ago on tcrf
12:07 AM
lots of actor rooms
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:08 AM
i believe there's an unused room in one of HL2 maps that hasnt been documented
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:08 AM
the greatest texture ever
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 12:08 AM
i second this
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:08 AM
d1_town_06 has a room underneath the map, and i think alyx is in it (edited)
leilei 4/16/2018 12:09 AM
caching room
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:09 AM
Alyx doesn't actually have a physical appearance in the map though
12:09 AM
She appears on one of the TVs, but its just an animation loop and not an actual NPC (edited)
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:10 AM
I found this on the ending map and so I decided to hunt all of the actor rooms outside the maps. Also this texture is not documented yet (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 4/16/2018 12:10 AM
paul blart mall kart
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 12:10 AM
dont parp his kart
ゲームボーイ64 4/16/2018 12:11 AM
lol
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:11 AM
And then I had fun with unused cutscenes (last pic sorry for potential spam)
leilei 4/16/2018 12:11 AM
that room would make sense for a press release version
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:11 AM
heavy iron's site used to have a ton of bfbb concept art
12:11 AM
and early screenshots
12:11 AM
I saved some of them at the time but not all of them
12:12 AM
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 12:12 AM
not on wayback?
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:12 AM
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12:12 AM
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 12:12 AM
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 12:12 AM
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:12 AM
Actually I just wanted to show that this is the largest actor room I've seen on unreal engine
leilei 4/16/2018 12:13 AM
you would get load hitches if that room wasn't made
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:15 AM
yeah I know I'm not complaining , I'm just saying there's lots of unused space
leilei 4/16/2018 12:15 AM
probably the most lazy criminal thing in that room is the wasted lightmap texture
Laenthor 4/16/2018 12:18 AM
absolutely
bumper3241 4/16/2018 12:57 AM
does anyone know how to access he 3d models of Dark Cloud 2? If it helps, they're .chr files
1:00 AM
sorry, i meant how can i view them? i cant get a program to recognize .chr or .img files
punk7890 4/16/2018 1:00 AM
doesn't the debug menu allow you to view models?
bumper3241 4/16/2018 1:01 AM
yeah, but how can I get them to be usable outside of the game?
Deleted User 4/16/2018 1:02 AM
succubus
bumper3241 4/16/2018 1:02 AM
wat?
punk7890 4/16/2018 1:02 AM
might be file paths loaded in ram that you could change to something else
1:02 AM
just find the main character model
1:02 AM
and try replacing the text to something else?
bumper3241 4/16/2018 1:03 AM
can you explain this to a basic bitch such as myself?
punk7890 4/16/2018 1:03 AM
probably won't work though if its full path names
bumper3241 4/16/2018 1:03 AM
im not exactly good with editing ram lol
punk7890 4/16/2018 1:04 AM
well, say the main character is chr00, try finding that and changing it to another valid name ID, maybe chr01
1:04 AM
I never looked at that game but remind me sometime and I could look
bumper3241 4/16/2018 1:06 AM
i can send you a google drive folder if you want to take a look. im primarily just looking for a way to convert them to mainstream files like .stl or .obj
punk7890 4/16/2018 1:07 AM
oh, I'm not good at that sort of thing, sorry
bumper3241 4/16/2018 1:07 AM
ah, i see. thanks anyways.
1:08 AM
there are a select few people like darkcapilla who know how to do it, but they don't respond to me asking how they render the models.
LazySnake 4/16/2018 2:12 AM
Can tcrf have a page on a mod?
leilei 4/16/2018 2:13 AM
i think that would qualify under "no crappy fan games"
2:13 AM
unless mod became a commercial product and famous (edited)
2:13 AM
like counter-strike
LazySnake 4/16/2018 2:13 AM
Brutal Doom?
leilei 4/16/2018 2:13 AM
2:13 AM
that would be a nsfl page
LazySnake 4/16/2018 2:14 AM
yeah
BoringPerson 4/16/2018 2:14 AM
@bumper3241 I helped someone with a 3D model format and I may be able to help you too. I'm dead tired now, but send me a DM and I'll get back to you hopefully sometime this week (edited)
leilei 4/16/2018 2:14 AM
and tcrf would then be inundated with lots of unfinished eternally beta mods
2:14 AM
i think having mods would set a bad precedent and add distraction
2:15 AM
and it's not as interesting as developers/publishers changes anyway
LazySnake 4/16/2018 2:15 AM
I know it's not commercialized but still it would make a great page
2:15 AM
Maybe just the really popular mods
bumper3241 4/16/2018 2:15 AM
@BoringPerson I'll send you a dm with a few test models tomorrow. Thanks a ton! (edited)
BoringPerson 4/16/2018 2:15 AM
No problem
Nex 4/16/2018 6:19 AM
as much as I would like to make a tcrf page for nehrim - a famous oblivion total conversion - tcrf is just the wrong place for that imo
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 6:25 AM
>brutal doom tcrf fuckin why
Revenant 4/16/2018 9:05 AM
no pages for mods
bumper3241 4/16/2018 9:38 AM
Who do I have to DM for a TCRF account?
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 10:44 AM
Life lessons from Sonic himself...
FutureFractal 4/16/2018 10:55 AM
@Bumper3241 someone with an admin role
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/16/2018 10:59 AM
@bumper3241
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 11:03 AM
@Paulweeze71
Nex 4/16/2018 11:04 AM
@Paulweeze71
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 11:05 AM
@Nex
11:05 AM
@Nex
11:05 AM
@Nex
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/16/2018 11:06 AM
Um
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 11:07 AM
@Patapon Fanatic #3
11:07 AM
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/16/2018 11:10 AM
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 11:14 AM
GerbilSoft 4/16/2018 11:37 AM
(╯°□°）╯︵ ǝuoʎɹǝʌǝ@
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 11:48 AM
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 4:02 PM
What's TCRF's thing with cacti
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 4:05 PM
Netscape Navigator 4/16/2018 4:18 PM
it's an unused texture from Super Mario 64
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 4:21 PM
so it's like the mascot?
Netscape Navigator 4/16/2018 4:21 PM
basically
4:23 PM
one of the earliest things added on the site (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/16/2018 4:29 PM
sampson 4/16/2018 4:32 PM
Hi I don't want an account but I found some stuff that should be put on the TGM1 page on the wiki.. can I just put it here and someone throw it on the page?
4:36 PM
In Tetris: the Grand Master all of the unused text can be seen in-game as it actually has a region code built into it and just needs a hex edit. Verified it works on the real hardware as well. atej_04.2h the very last byte 0x7FFFF is 00 which is the region code. Regions: `00: Japan 01: USA 02: Asia 03: Europe 04: Hispanic 05: Brazil 06: Nigata 07: Odawara 08: Pub Ver (Causes game to crash at license screen)` All of the other regions switches the attract mode to use the non-used English text and USA will make the "Don't use drugs" screen to show up in attract mode
Xkeeper 4/16/2018 5:09 PM
huh, i recognize your avatar.
5:11 PM
I don't have time to do it now, but I threw it here: https://tcrf.net/Talk:Tetris:_The_Grand_Master
Talk:Tetris: The Grand Master
sampson 4/16/2018 5:26 PM
probably from sa, it's my avatar there as well
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 5:32 PM
i have the best avatar
Xkeeper 4/16/2018 5:32 PM
ah, i figured. aaag peanuts
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 5:59 PM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/386543982399979534/435289534121377792/sbrevenge_early1.jpg @JacobLenstar where did you find this picture, out of curiosity?
5:59 PM
also, I just realized those are krabby patties instead of doubloons https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/393977903408349186/435557444954095667/unknown.png
BridgetX 4/16/2018 6:03 PM
hey my dudes what got you into unused content and prototypes?
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 4/16/2018 6:07 PM
6:07 PM
did you ever notice the beta lizaflos had a giant horn on their helmet thing?
Nex 4/16/2018 6:14 PM
basically being curious about how games I like used to look like
BridgetX 4/16/2018 6:30 PM
in my case, although it wasn't unused content, it was the GM Island in WoW, that thing sparked my curiosity for hidden stuff in games (edited)
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GerbilSoft 4/16/2018 6:30 PM
Cue betamax photos
leilei 4/16/2018 6:47 PM
earlymax
Kelton 4/16/2018 6:51 PM
hey guys is it bad if i credit myself for og research in an article (and how do i do it lmao)
EdTheNerd 4/16/2018 7:02 PM
Kelton 4/16/2018 7:08 PM
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 7:08 PM
punk7890 4/16/2018 7:10 PM
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 7:11 PM
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leilei 4/16/2018 7:28 PM
GerbilSoft 4/16/2018 7:30 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/16/2018 7:31 PM
Laenthor 4/16/2018 7:47 PM
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 7:51 PM
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 7:51 PM
JacobLenstar 4/16/2018 8:08 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 I don't remember, but that was the only image there
Xkeeper 4/16/2018 8:09 PM
@Kelton check {{source}} and {{tcrf source}}.
Neko May 4/16/2018 8:58 PM
PRODUCED BY OR UNDER LICENSE FROM SEGA ENTERPRISES LTD. (edited)
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 9:14 PM
Damn TMSS
Neko May 4/16/2018 9:22 PM
Heehee
Δndrew P. 4/16/2018 9:57 PM
Licensed by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. SCEI™
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 10:01 PM
SCEI at it's finest...
GerbilSoft 4/16/2018 10:45 PM
where's ernie
Paulweeze71 4/16/2018 10:46 PM
Just right off the screen
GerbilSoft 4/16/2018 10:46 PM
unrelated
10:46 PM
i've noticed that in interlaced mode on a CRT, if i focus my eyes correctly, i can see scanlines "moving up"
Δndrew P. 4/16/2018 10:52 PM
My brother still has his Plasma screen Panasonic TV from like 2001
Incineroar 4/16/2018 10:53 PM
only just got a flatscreen last summer
Δndrew P. 4/16/2018 10:54 PM
I still have my baby samsung tv from like 2010. Before that was a CRT with a built-in VHS player that never worked
Incineroar 4/16/2018 10:54 PM
i just had a 27 inch CRT, and before that was a 17 inch color TV, and before that was an ancient black and white TV that somehow still worked
Δndrew P. 4/16/2018 10:54 PM
Everyone in my family is so behind on technology except me
10:56 PM
My grandma still has a SECAM TV
GerbilSoft 4/16/2018 11:11 PM
lol SECAM
11:11 PM
System Essentially Contrary to the American Method
11:12 PM
related note
11:12 PM
most Sega consoles released in France didn't have RF out at all - they had RGB
11:12 PM
mostly because SECAM encoders are a pain to design
11:13 PM
however, someone found a Russian Sega Master System that outputs SECAM RF
11:13 PM
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?32163-Russian-Master-System-found-in-Latvian-store
Russian Master System found in Latvian store.
http://www.honkeykongcountry.ee/2017/02/23/russian-master-system-1-found-in-riga/ I just came across this article and thought it was interesting. I had no idea the SMS was ever released in Russia. The article claims that 3000-5000 units are...
11:13 PM
http://www.smspower.org/forums/13939-SovietRussianMasterSystemWithNoCardSlot1990
Laenthor 4/16/2018 11:16 PM
Interesting
GerbilSoft 4/16/2018 11:19 PM
oh
11:19 PM
switch 5.0.2 just happened apparently
11:19 PM
`– Resolved an issue that caused motion controls to respond incorrectly when playing games that use the feature – Resolved an issue that caused user icons for recommended friends to not display correctly`
CrashOveride 4/16/2018 11:28 PM
`>SECAM` aaaaa
GerbilSoft 4/16/2018 11:30 PM
comedy bonus option: the SECAM 2600
11:30 PM
atari couldn't figure out how to make a decent SECAM encoder, so they ended up effectively using 3-bit RGB
divingkxt 4/16/2018 11:35 PM
That's because you can't mix SECAM signals the same way you can for NTSC or PAL signals. (edited)
11:36 PM
You have to demodulate them first before remodulating them.
Neko May 4/16/2018 11:36 PM
11:37 PM
TMSS on LabelTag
divingkxt 4/16/2018 11:39 PM
Have to imagine that it would be interesting as an anti-piracy method.
Neko May 4/16/2018 11:42 PM
The sheer amount of space it wastes makes it pretty pointless
Incineroar 4/17/2018 12:11 AM
Just came across something neat on twitter: F-Zero AX cards
12:11 AM
Those being in use with the Triforce systems
12:11 AM
https://twitter.com/koku_zi/status/695586191484149760?s=19
コクソジ (@koku_zi)
というわけでOKINAWAアメリカンビレッジにもF-ZERO AXが一台だけ稼働してたのをご報告しますね びっくりした！初めて触ったすごい楽しかった！カード作った！！名前入力わかんなく...
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/17/2018 12:17 AM
"F-ZERO AX work in Okinawa American village." (edited)
12:19 AM
I have not seen F-ZERO AX. if I go to Okinawa, I will play it.
Incineroar 4/17/2018 12:23 AM
No need to unless you want the full experience
12:23 AM
https://tcrf.net/F-Zero_GX#Leftover_F-Zero_AX_Code
F-Zero GX
12:23 AM
It's still intact in F-Zero GX for the GameCube
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/17/2018 12:33 AM
I see
punk7890 4/17/2018 12:56 AM
Neat. TCRF still amazes me
☎ 4/17/2018 1:15 AM
FZAX can be emulated with Nintendont too i think.
1:16 AM
The physics featured in the GX version of AX is slightly different, where players cannot perform a move called the T-Drift.
1:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VXMxX3eJdw (edited)
Uchiha Madao
F-Zero AX: T-Drift in action
1:16 AM
replaced the video, bad example
1:19 AM
Oh yeah, there actually a tidbit of information not covered on the FZGX TCRF page. For Chapter 9, there is an unused racer icon for the blue ghost-god-guys.
1:21 AM
1:23 AM
obviously not a good image and i dont have time to go and grab a better one (edited)
1:24 AM
Its directory is root\chara\falcon_face_st9.gma (edited)
1:27 AM
you need a .gma unpacker. There should be one on gamebanana for FZGX and Super Monkey Ball
LuigiBlood 4/17/2018 6:30 AM
"It's still intact in F-Zero GX for the GameCube" not really
6:30 AM
I believe it's missing a few things
Δndrew P. 4/17/2018 7:07 AM
why does he look like yellow diamond from steven universe
Spyro 2025 4/17/2018 11:33 AM
https://tcrf.net/Wario_Land:_Shake_It!/Unused_Enemies
Unused Enemies
up gghhh8 4/17/2018 12:21 PM
Anything found in SS 3DS?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/17/2018 1:49 PM
like the other alphadream games it uses a shit file compression system thing (ehm can you tell more) which makes it hard to find stuff (edited)
1:50 PM
but aside from that there is a map warper in there like the other games
1:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/L0vzFIt.png
Deleted User 4/17/2018 2:02 PM
oh I haven't looked at SS yet
2:03 PM
it's probably BLZ or something
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/17/2018 2:08 PM
Deleted User 4/17/2018 2:11 PM
lol
2:11 PM
that 10/10 memory
2:11 PM
it doesn't seem too bad, but some of these aren't BLZ (edited)
2:11 PM
or at least, the way I cut them is incorrect and breaks decompression
2:11 PM
there's probably an offset table at the top that details everything
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/17/2018 2:11 PM
just wait until you figure it out and they change it AGAIN for BIS DX
Deleted User 4/17/2018 2:12 PM
2:13 PM
2:15 PM
3D
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/17/2018 2:16 PM
oh yeah i forgot they went backwards from the 3D model areas
Deleted User 4/17/2018 2:18 PM
they might be 3D still? these are the battle maps
2:23 PM
hmm
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/17/2018 2:23 PM
ah i guess its some layered shit
Laenthor 4/17/2018 3:03 PM
I think SSDX doesn't have actual 3d (slider does nothing).
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 4/17/2018 3:16 PM
isolated the beta lizaflos helmet from twilight princess for modelling purposes.
up gghhh8 4/17/2018 5:28 PM
If I'm correct, wasn't there some OoT 3D stuff in the files?
5:28 PM
For SSS.
Deleted User 4/17/2018 5:38 PM
SSS?
Laenthor 4/17/2018 5:43 PM
Skyward Sword Sucks (I like skyward sword tho)
up gghhh8 4/17/2018 5:44 PM
@Deleted User Super Star Saga.
5:44 PM
Sorry, I should just say the full name
Deleted User 4/17/2018 5:54 PM
first I've heard
5:54 PM
different developers, different file formats
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/17/2018 5:56 PM
they added the OoT item get sound for great force but i think thats about it
5:56 PM
which if stupid because the planned cameos still werent put in so it comes out of nowhere
Deleted User 4/17/2018 5:57 PM
RIP
5:58 PM
why did they bother remaking it if they weren't going to put in the cameos
punk7890 4/17/2018 7:12 PM
hi
7:14 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/986381477653897216
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a decent sized debug menu in Bouken Ou Beet: Darkness Century (PS2) https://t.co/oeyUxdedCy By the same developers who did Orphen: Scion of Sorcery and Project Arms, the same debug menu can also be found here. Contains sound tests, map s...
7:14 PM
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/17/2018 8:54 PM
added lotsa new stuff to patapon 1 and patapon 3's page
8:54 PM
still not close to done though
8:54 PM
and i still need to add stuff to patapon 2...
Color Printer 4/17/2018 8:54 PM
how many ogg files can a page load before it breaks. asking for a friend
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/17/2018 8:54 PM
idk probably thousands
Smoke 4/17/2018 9:25 PM
oof: https://tcrf.net/Special:UncategorizedFiles
Special:UncategorizedFiles
9:25 PM
so many files to categorize
divingkxt 4/17/2018 9:48 PM
I'll get it.
9:54 PM
...And slowdown.
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/17/2018 9:54 PM
oh hey
9:54 PM
thats
9:54 PM
all the files i uploaded today
9:54 PM
9:54 PM
whoops
divingkxt 4/17/2018 9:57 PM
--(-) === [||]
9:59 PM
Er...
9:59 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:PataponjpPIC1.PNG
File:PataponjpPIC1.PNG
9:59 PM
vs.
10:00 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:PataponinPIC1.PNG
File:PataponinPIC1.PNG
10:00 PM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 For the record, if the only difference is the translation, it's not worth documenting.
10:00 PM
Kind of a Captain Obvious sort of thing.
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/17/2018 10:00 PM
um
10:01 PM
the date...
10:01 PM
and the size of the text
10:01 PM
was what i was really looking at
divingkxt 4/17/2018 10:01 PM
Ah.
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/17/2018 10:03 PM
also i just realized
10:03 PM
the japanese has a blur around the text (edited)
10:03 PM
english has hard white
10:04 PM
i still have more audio i need to upload believe it or not
10:05 PM
wont that be a nightmare
divingkxt 4/17/2018 10:10 PM
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/17/2018 10:18 PM
this is all just for a minigame i found
10:18 PM
10:19 PM
cant wait for patapon 2
10:22 PM
oh wait theres more
10:22 PM
nvm looks like im not gonna update patapon 1 for a while
10:22 PM
too much
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/18/2018 11:01 AM
I found debug menu in Beltlogger 9. https://tcrf.net/Beltlogger_9
Beltlogger 9
1
Paulweeze71 4/18/2018 11:02 AM
AxelFrog 4/18/2018 12:51 PM
Found this unused voice clip in Sonic Forces's files. It seems that it would have been said around here https://youtu.be/pmM4jFwbWAI?t=57s
SonicJGB
Sonic Forces: Lost Valley [1080 HD]
12:53 PM
Along with these
12:53 PM
12:58 PM
There is also this unused voice clip for the Double Boost in The First Tag Team Stage (Stage 7)
punk7890 4/18/2018 7:19 PM
hi
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/18/2018 7:24 PM
punk7890 4/18/2018 7:38 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/986750825010622464
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu + a camera editor tool in Gungrave (PS2) https://t.co/tOUUhCaJM9 Contains your standard debug menu options, sound test, movie test, and level select. It also contains a model / animation viewer and a record input function.
3
7:38 PM
FMecha 4/18/2018 8:07 PM
Should delisted content be considered unused if players who had it before it got delisted can still use it?
8:08 PM
Someone added the mention about delisted "clone" Porsches and Toyota cars to Asphalt 8 article, which I had to remove
Paulweeze71 4/18/2018 8:28 PM
Can't I get one day of rest without punk finding a debug menu?
8:28 PM
hopes he can't...
Dezent 4/19/2018 12:51 AM
For punk, debug menu is love, debug menu is life
12:51 AM
:p
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/19/2018 1:05 AM
Uhhh
1:05 AM
I found some easter egg that I want to list on tcrf
1:05 AM
but idk how to write wiki generally
divingkxt 4/19/2018 1:06 AM
Which easter egg is it?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/19/2018 1:06 AM
Sega Saturn/ Thunder Force V
1:06 AM
NOT PS2 ver
1:07 AM
Should I say details too here?
CrashOveride 4/19/2018 1:08 AM
ye
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/19/2018 1:09 AM
Sure
1:09 AM
In the last potion of game, (Last boss "when Reffi broken"), there is message hidden on BG Graphic (edited)
1:11 AM
I'd capture on SSF later today
1:14 AM
I have rom so
1:14 AM
;)
leilei 4/19/2018 1:39 AM
would the 'realdemo' thing in Dead of Alive 2 home versions count
1:41 AM
(also i tried to find tools to dig doa2 but all i could find are for the later ecchi games)
punk7890 4/19/2018 2:35 AM
this is a cool fairy shop
2:36 AM
good ol' Falcom and their debug maps (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/19/2018 2:37 AM
I remember Reffi message of Thunder Force V PS version is different message in Japanese subtitle and English voice/text . but I don't know US version. (edited)
punk7890 4/19/2018 2:39 AM
hello @Athena 悠里マヤ . Find any cool debug menus?
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/19/2018 2:41 AM
hi, I found debug menu in Beltlogger 9 yesterday.
punk7890 4/19/2018 2:49 AM
Cool. Nice work
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/19/2018 2:51 AM
Thank you
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/19/2018 4:14 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ Not that
4:15 AM
I mean last boss BG screen msgs
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/19/2018 4:29 AM
I see.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/19/2018 4:31 AM
…which I need to go through entire thing
4:31 AM
lol
LuigiBlood 4/19/2018 12:45 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9pvR0yS.jpg
12:45 PM
??????????
12:45 PM
Did 64DD come out in Korea?
Paulweeze71 4/19/2018 12:46 PM
I'm pretty sure it was a JPN exclusive
LuigiBlood 4/19/2018 12:46 PM
why does this exist
Paulweeze71 4/19/2018 12:46 PM
That's just wack...
LuigiBlood 4/19/2018 12:49 PM
I'm having lots of doubts of course but this isn't the only pic and possibly only owner
Paulweeze71 4/19/2018 12:54 PM
I'm genuinely curious if they had plans to branch out of Japan and use Korea to see if Randnet would do well.
LuigiBlood 4/19/2018 12:59 PM
to be honest they had big plans
Paulweeze71 4/19/2018 1:00 PM
Sad it ended up as a big pipe dream
LuigiBlood 4/19/2018 1:04 PM
oh wait
1:04 PM
It's not a keyboard for N64
1:04 PM
It's a regular PS/2 plug
Paulweeze71 4/19/2018 1:04 PM
GerbilSoft 4/19/2018 2:16 PM
why would an N64 keyboard have a windows key
2:17 PM
2:17 PM
the official dreamcast keyboard is 104/105, but has the windows/menu keys replaced with generic "S1" or something (edited)
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Deleted User 4/19/2018 7:33 PM
i'd love people created debug menus for games that lack them lmao
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/19/2018 10:48 PM
@MrRichard999 good.
MrRichard999 4/19/2018 11:03 PM
SirenaBeach 4/20/2018 1:31 AM
the pile of goop generator that spawns Strollin' Stus in Bianco Hills looks like it at one point was able to spawn Goobles as there is an unused or removed manager called NamekuriLauncherManager
1:32 AM
there's also a scrapped model called hauntleg.bmd and it has it's parameters as hauntleg.prm and even it's own manager, HauntLegManager
1:33 AM
what hauntleg even was, I have no idea.
tape 4/20/2018 1:52 AM
the sequel to tape-leg
1:52 AM
wasn't that generator only ever used once in the whole game
1:52 AM
the goop pile one
Deleted User 4/20/2018 2:10 AM
Well that was bizarre
2:10 AM
somehow I was shadowbanned without being shadowbanned...
2:10 AM
2:10 AM
Anyhow I am back after a bit of a hassle
divingkxt 4/20/2018 2:12 AM
Hi.
Deleted User 4/20/2018 2:12 AM
Hello
2:12 AM
now to check on what I missed
2:14 AM
I checked the rules and I didn't seem to break any rules
divingkxt 4/20/2018 2:15 AM
Wait a sec...
2:15 AM
You're ThrowingOutRox aren't you.
Deleted User 4/20/2018 2:15 AM
Whoa whoa whoa holy fuck dude don't accuse me right there
2:15 AM
I'm "musicartlover"
2:16 AM
I'm mostly Mel or Bunboon
divingkxt 4/20/2018 2:16 AM
Oh.
2:16 AM
Sorry about that.
Deleted User 4/20/2018 2:16 AM
Yeah I get that accusations a lot, including some dude named Sean
divingkxt 4/20/2018 2:16 AM
Ouch.
2:16 AM
Bunboon is familiar, but Mel is quite generic.
Deleted User 4/20/2018 2:17 AM
Yeah it's when I realized that "musicartlover" can be sloppily abbreviated
2:17 AM
And since I didn't want people constantly writing the name on full I changed it to mel
Dezent 4/20/2018 2:17 AM
But shouldn't Musicartlover be abbreviated to Mal?
Deleted User 4/20/2018 2:17 AM
Yeah, but Mal sounds wrong
Dezent 4/20/2018 2:18 AM
True that, you could get mixed to My Anime List then
Deleted User 4/20/2018 2:18 AM
Yeah, the freaks there
Simon The Digger 4/20/2018 3:05 AM
Happy 4/20 everybody
Dezent 4/20/2018 3:21 AM
ayy
Deleted User 4/20/2018 3:26 AM
ay it's 4/20
3:26 AM
along with hitler's birth day... yeah
Dezent 4/20/2018 3:27 AM
Just because it's 4/20
2
divingkxt 4/20/2018 3:33 AM
Shame weed's illegal in Japan.
Simon The Digger 4/20/2018 3:33 AM
It's SUPER illegal
divingkxt 4/20/2018 3:33 AM
Then again, it's illegal in most of Asia. So...
Simon The Digger 4/20/2018 3:33 AM
Paul McCartney got arrested for it, and that's back when the Beatles were the biggest thing around
leilei 4/20/2018 3:46 AM
LarryLemmy 4/20/2018 8:49 AM
Doesn't mal mean something along the lines of "bad" in French? I wonder if people use that against My Anime List
Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:50 AM
You can't spell Malicious without Mal
Paulweeze71 4/20/2018 9:44 AM
Klitlika 4/20/2018 11:43 AM
GT5_-_Launch_Version_-_textdata.rar
783.66 KB
Netscape Navigator 4/20/2018 11:53 AM
happy 69th birthday to Jessica Lange
divingkxt 4/20/2018 1:52 PM
Any Sonic the Fighters/Championship fans here?
1:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04UXNNIeDc
Steve Blockhead
Sonic The Fighters: Debug Mode - Download + Tutorial
1:53 PM
Because I found the video with the details.
FMecha 4/20/2018 1:55 PM
since you're here @divingkxt, can you please have answer to this unanswered question
divingkxt 4/20/2018 1:56 PM
Delisted content is not unused.
1:56 PM
Exceptions might be if the content was available for less than 24 hours before being pulled.
1:56 PM
Probably under 3 hours. (edited)
FMecha 4/20/2018 1:57 PM
Ah alright, thanks for clarifying
divingkxt 4/20/2018 1:59 PM
Wait...Quake on the Saturn was T?
Revenant 4/20/2018 2:01 PM
T?
divingkxt 4/20/2018 2:04 PM
As in rated T by the ESRB.
2:04 PM
Despite retaining all of the gore from the PC version.
Revenant 4/20/2018 2:04 PM
oh
2:04 PM
heh
DMTM 4/20/2018 2:56 PM
ゲームボーイ64 4/20/2018 3:09 PM
I heard doom and quake were bad on the saturn
3:09 PM
especially doom
Netscape Navigator 4/20/2018 3:15 PM
Doom had a pretty botched port process
3:16 PM
Quake was rewritten entirely in the Powerslave engine
ゲームボーイ64 4/20/2018 3:16 PM
I heard that rewriting doom for every single system was hell
3:16 PM
and it was done in about two months per platform
3:17 PM
3DO doom was about two weeks though
Revenant 4/20/2018 3:17 PM
"rewriting" is kind of an exaggeration
3:17 PM
most console ports were based on the jaguar version which was still based on the original PC codebase
divingkxt 4/20/2018 3:18 PM
And ID Software knew they were dealing with machines with higher memory constraints.
3:18 PM
And with no upgrade paths (mostly), unlike the PC version.
ゲームボーイ64 4/20/2018 3:20 PM
oops
3:20 PM
I forgot that they were mostly based on jaguar doom
3:20 PM
https://youtu.be/brBQVcf37Xc
Patch93
What Doom on the 32x should have sounded like VER 2 PART 1
3:20 PM
sounds better than what we actually got
divingkxt 4/20/2018 3:21 PM
I mean, Doom on the 32X was a complete rushjob.
3:22 PM
To the point there appears to have been plans to release a better version that never came to fruition.
3:22 PM
Take a look at drx's big Sega dump from 2008 and there are versions compiled after the game's initial release.
3:22 PM
No apparent differences found though.
ゲームボーイ64 4/20/2018 3:23 PM
I played 32x doom
3:23 PM
It was pretty neat
3:23 PM
but the music could have been better, sure
divingkxt 4/20/2018 3:25 PM
It's fine as a launch title.
3:26 PM
Too bad the 32X never really got any better than that.
3:26 PM
Not that it's a bad port, I think, but it's underwhelming for sure.
GerbilSoft 4/20/2018 3:28 PM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-fix-ver-11-3-0-4u-on-old-3ds-xl.501500 fairly certain this guy is trolling
How to fix ver. 11.3.0-4u on old 3ds xl?
So about a year ago I STUPIDLY watched a youtube video to get cfw. Something failed while doing the process and I have been using games to try and save...
3:28 PM
"Got an ass computer (mac) meaning I cant unzip ds_ntrboot_flasher_dsi.nds : / "
3:28 PM
the file isn't compressed
LarryLemmy 4/20/2018 3:41 PM
A magnet should fix it
ゲームボーイ64 4/20/2018 4:35 PM
Chaotix was the prime of the 32x
4:36 PM
And besides the graphics and music, it’s not worth playing
4:36 PM
But, it is scenery pr0n and sounds beautiful for chiptunes
divingkxt 4/20/2018 5:11 PM
5:12 PM
Sonic Clackers.
5:12 PM
Sonic Crackers.
5:13 PM
While an interesting idea, it's not easy to execute having two characters bounce off each other and platform at the same time.
5:13 PM
This is also why loops were scrapped.
GerbilSoft 4/20/2018 5:20 PM
loops were scrapped because the 32X sucks
5:20 PM
the 32X VDP can either be in front of both MD scroll planes, or behind both MD scroll planes
5:20 PM
it can't be in between them
divingkxt 4/20/2018 5:31 PM
Oof.
5:31 PM
Now that is awful.
SirenaBeach 4/20/2018 6:28 PM
by the way, if there's like an unused enemy manager or an unused enemy that has animations and stuff but it doesn't work for some reason, is reverse-engineering it to demonstrate how it was supposed to work allowed or is that considered a hack?
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/20/2018 6:52 PM
both
leilei 4/20/2018 6:57 PM
my favorite 32x game is space harrier
6:58 PM
it's like they've really made the 32x just to port space harrier. everything else is secondary
Deleted User 4/20/2018 6:59 PM
Can someone update the SSBM prerelease page to include this higher-quality beta opening?
6:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1eczELNoBA
Shwa
Super Smash Bros. Melee - Beta Opening
leilei 4/20/2018 6:59 PM
"beta"
Deleted User 4/20/2018 6:59 PM
No rly it is
Nex 4/20/2018 6:59 PM
^^ (edited)
leilei 4/20/2018 6:59 PM
you keep using that word
Deleted User 4/20/2018 7:00 PM
See 0:41-0:48
7:00 PM
It is
divingkxt 4/20/2018 7:01 PM
We really don't like using the word "beta" much, @Deleted User
7:01 PM
Partially because of how specific the word is vs. how often it's used.
Deleted User 4/20/2018 7:01 PM
Oh
7:02 PM
Nvm
7:02 PM
Sorry
divingkxt 4/20/2018 7:02 PM
Anyhow, we'll get it in there.
Deleted User 4/20/2018 7:03 PM
Thanks guys
leilei 4/20/2018 7:04 PM
i've even seen "this is not a demo this is not a beta this is a TEST!" prototypes referred to as "beta's"
Paulweeze71 4/20/2018 7:04 PM
Nex 4/20/2018 7:04 PM
got a sick r&c beta for sale guyz
Paulweeze71 4/20/2018 7:05 PM
Is he still harassing people?
Nex 4/20/2018 7:05 PM
idk
Paulweeze71 4/20/2018 7:05 PM
7:05 PM
Glad I haven't seen him in a while
Nex 4/20/2018 7:05 PM
the meme however will remain - forever
Deleted User 4/20/2018 7:05 PM
Also there's more prerelease info for Melee
7:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NqLfwKWYhE
Games5522
Hyper Magazine Super Smash Bros Melee E3 2001
7:06 PM
I's not on the site yet but if we analyze it
LuigiBlood 4/20/2018 7:08 PM
"Beta Opening" lol
7:08 PM
It's literally just the one from E3 2001
leilei 4/20/2018 7:09 PM
yeah but if we obfuscate facts and call it betas it makes them sound cooler and mystical and brings more hits to my youtubes (edited)
Nex 4/20/2018 7:09 PM
HIDDEN BETA CONTENT
LuigiBlood 4/20/2018 7:10 PM
Let's talk pre-alpha content
divingkxt 4/20/2018 7:10 PM
@Deleted User https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Super_Smash_Bros._Melee#Early_Intro_Cinematic
Prerelease:Super Smash Bros. Melee
7:10 PM
It's already here-ish.
7:10 PM
Refresh.
Deleted User 4/20/2018 7:10 PM
Okeydokes
LuigiBlood 4/20/2018 7:11 PM
I finally understood most of how the Display List works
7:11 PM
on GameCube
Nex 4/20/2018 7:12 PM
https://tcrf.net/Proto:LittleBigPlanet_2/Early_DC_Comics_Build was this prototype even leaked
Early DC Comics Build
7:13 PM
because I very doubt so
Deleted User 4/20/2018 7:13 PM
Also in the E3 opening movie, Fox's blaster sounds different. Just wanted to let you know since it's not on there
divingkxt 4/20/2018 7:13 PM
https://pastebin.com/7u3p0jA2
Volume in drive E is BCES00850 Volume Serial Number is B943-A64D...
7:13 PM
There's this file listing at least.
Nex 4/20/2018 7:14 PM
besides the closed beta or what it was called I only remember a debug lbp2 build from nov 2010 being leaked
Deleted User 4/20/2018 7:18 PM
Also I think we need to address some changes made since this was shot
7:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NqLfwKWYhE
Games5522
Hyper Magazine Super Smash Bros Melee E3 2001
SirenaBeach 4/20/2018 7:33 PM
does a beta version of an x-ray machine give off beta particles instead of x-rays?
GerbilSoft 4/20/2018 7:35 PM
What about an alpha version
7:35 PM
Paulweeze71 4/20/2018 7:44 PM
Nex 4/20/2018 7:44 PM
SirenaBeach 4/20/2018 7:45 PM
am I the only who can barely read the ban emoji?
divingkxt 4/20/2018 7:46 PM
Nope.
7:46 PM
Yep, it's the BAN frame from the Sonic '96 OVA.
Deleted User 4/20/2018 7:47 PM

- in the sonic 4 snes voice* SONIC SONIC

Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:04 PM
So basically we need to see this
8:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NqLfwKWYhE
Games5522
Hyper Magazine Super Smash Bros Melee E3 2001
Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:23 PM
Mario has rougher animations Entei doesn't have a fire pillar, he just catches on fire THE CRATE WARPS WHEN IT'S PICKED UP Corneria has a darker sky and arwings were originally in the background Players don't flash when they use the bat The flipper is a 2D texture Peach's dress isn't fully animated so it clips through her at times and I think her float is different...? A better look at the unused Temple platforms Beta Yoshi's Island has note blocks Onett's clouds jump in animation sometimes Green Greens is totally different and Whispy Woods constantly blows to the left multiple times... maybe he was supposed to blow puffs of air like he did in the games? A bit more alpha Rainbow Cruise footage A bit more alpha Yoshi's Story footage The full alpha Yoshi's Island layout Battlefield is shown for a split-second, does it look any different? Final Destination is also shown for a split-second... any differences?
Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:30 PM
Fourside's UFO is different The screen KO is the same as the one in the first Smash Bros., with the characters not hitting the screen and instead fall in front of it. Kongo Jungle has a faster stream
8:30 PM
Those are all I can notice
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/20/2018 8:33 PM
did you put them into the article...?
8:33 PM
okay
Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:33 PM
Awesome! Thank you!!!
Paulweeze71 4/20/2018 8:35 PM
Your user name makes me hungry
Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:35 PM
Ooohoohoho thanks
GerbilSoft 4/20/2018 8:45 PM
Seems legit
Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:47 PM
Actually, someone I know actually HAS a beta Melee disc... but only Fountain of Dreams works
leilei 4/20/2018 8:47 PM
what is the color of their gamecube
Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:48 PM
Idk but look
8:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11vehztkHso
Very Old Lady
Super Smash Bros. Melee: Beta Copy FOUND!!!
GerbilSoft 4/20/2018 8:50 PM
Uh huh (edited)
8:50 PM
As leilei said - what color is their gamecube
8:50 PM
Ask them
8:51 PM
Or if they're using a Wii, what color is that
Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:53 PM
He actually DOES have a disc, he told me
8:53 PM
But he hasn't been online yet
GerbilSoft 4/20/2018 8:53 PM
Well when he gets online, ask him what color his GameCube/Wii is
Deleted User 4/20/2018 8:53 PM
K then ;P
8:54 PM
Left a message
Getlucky12341 4/20/2018 9:07 PM
hello
Paulweeze71 4/20/2018 9:09 PM
Hello
Getlucky12341 4/20/2018 9:10 PM
I joined because I wanna help edit cutting room floor pages
Paulweeze71 4/20/2018 9:11 PM
Getlucky12341 4/20/2018 9:11 PM
and cause I needed help with something
9:11 PM
is it possible to rip graphics from unity made games?
Deleted User 4/20/2018 9:12 PM
yes
punk7890 4/20/2018 10:07 PM
Could I trouble an admin to upload a lot of images for me sometime? Or is that not possible?
divingkxt 4/20/2018 10:18 PM
Sure, I can do it.
punk7890 4/20/2018 10:21 PM
Thanks. I'll label them all accordingly then send them your way.
Klitlika 4/20/2018 10:26 PM
debug.log found in NPEB01929 Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty - PS3
Paulweeze71 4/20/2018 10:28 PM
ThrowingOutRoX 4/20/2018 10:53 PM
ay yo why was i kicked
Deleted User 4/20/2018 10:55 PM
I don't really know
Getlucky12341 4/20/2018 11:05 PM
One more questions
11:06 PM
is there a way to learn the proper way to format TCRF page layouts?
11:06 PM
don't wanna screw it up
Deleted User 4/20/2018 11:10 PM
find pages with good formatting and steal the source code (edited)
Getlucky12341 4/20/2018 11:11 PM
cool
11:11 PM
it's late though i'm going to bed
11:12 PM
I found a lot of unreleased costumes for characters
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/20/2018 11:46 PM
hmm
11:47 PM
through some file modding i can get old carryover backgrounds to appear in patapon 3
11:47 PM
so thats cool
goob 4/20/2018 11:51 PM
I was making a gif of an animation and accidentally found a couple unused frames of it, the sheet I got it from even points out other unused frames for other animations but missed this one :v
11:52 PM
I think it's actually the frames she blinks in, just without the blinking
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/21/2018 12:01 AM
hhHMMMM
12:01 AM
Deleted User 4/21/2018 12:10 AM
Hello there
12:10 AM
While I don't have any unused game content (not worth talking about), I do have some BF3/BF4 assets.
LuigiBlood 4/21/2018 4:26 AM
I honestly have genuine doubts about that Melee disc
4:27 AM
but yeah, color of the console is pretty important
Lance 4/21/2018 7:46 AM
Uh. Hi everyone
7:46 AM
Is there a way for me to register an account on TCRF? I have heaps of Bloodborne and dark souls 3 cut content to contribute.
Dezent 4/21/2018 7:50 AM
Ask any of the admins and they should be able to assist you
Lance 4/21/2018 7:57 AM
Aye thanks lll do that when I’m on my PC it not sure how to use discord on mobile hahah
7:58 AM
People keep nagging me to post on TCRF so I figure I should Get around to it heh
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/21/2018 9:52 AM
oh also
9:52 AM
I want account on tcrf... how can I eran it?
Deleted User 4/21/2018 9:52 AM
Contact the admins
9:53 AM
LIke Xkeeper or DivingKatae
Deleted User 4/21/2018 10:07 AM
The guy who has the Melee beta disc said he has a white Wii
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 4/21/2018 10:12 AM
i wonder if pitfall the lost expedition has unused content, it seems like it was an m-rated game that was cut down to an e-rated game.
GerbilSoft 4/21/2018 10:14 AM
@Deleted User any specific mention of the color of the front panel of the Wii?
10:14 AM
Or is it all white?
Deleted User 4/21/2018 10:14 AM
All-white.
GerbilSoft 4/21/2018 10:14 AM
Then he's probably lying
Deleted User 4/21/2018 10:30 AM
Can you pls stop saying beta
Dezent 4/21/2018 10:34 AM
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 10:37 AM
I found an unused sprite in something very obscure and not even a game
10:37 AM
10:38 AM
Pocket Monsters Screen Club
10:38 AM
one of the screensavers has this sprite and I do not see it in there
Deleted User 4/21/2018 11:31 AM
nice
Paulweeze71 4/21/2018 12:21 PM
I call BS on the ssbm disc, but I'm sure many of you already know lol
divingkxt 4/21/2018 12:26 PM
I mean, SSBM has plenty of modding tools out there.
12:26 PM
It's one of the easiest console games to hack because of this.
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:30 PM
the more vague, the less of a chance it's real
12:31 PM
http://redump.org/disc/26011/ was this dump ever released publicly?
redump.org • SmaBro DX Event-you Disc • スマブラDX イベ...
Redump - disc images information
divingkxt 4/21/2018 12:33 PM
Not to my knowledge.
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:33 PM
thought so
12:34 PM
http://www.demoban.net/post/162740213884/release-dairantou-smash-brothers-dx-jitsuen-you I looked at this awhile ago but there was nothing special
Demoban
Release: Dairantou Smash Brothers DX Jitsuen-you Demo (DL-DOL-DALJ...
Download Link This disc has also been sitting on the old backlog for a while. As the name indicates, this is a Japanese retail kiosk demo disc for Super Smash Bros. Melee. Content-wise, you get two...
divingkxt 4/21/2018 12:34 PM
No surprise since it's a (near) final copy of the game.
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:35 PM
a recurring theme in my dreams are secret characters or stages in smash bros melee
12:36 PM
low poly female nidoran
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 12:36 PM
i found a bit of interesting unused stuff in dr2 not featured on the tcrf dr2 page, like this unused unloaded food court
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:36 PM
is this anywhere in bubsy 3d?
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 12:37 PM
heres another screenshot
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:38 PM
https://tcrf.net/SpongeBob_SquarePants:_SuperSponge_(PlayStation) a lot of this stuff is from the source code disk and not clear if they're actually in the game or not
SpongeBob SquarePants: SuperSponge (PlayStation)
12:38 PM
like the model renders
12:38 PM
this is a 3ds max file that didn't have any sprites rendered
12:39 PM
but the max file was in the source code
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 12:39 PM
this place was probably scrapped very early on tbh
12:39 PM
i have a few other unused things if you guys want me to find em
12:41 PM
DO YOU
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:41 PM
divingkxt 4/21/2018 12:41 PM
Keep in mind, there's nothing forbidding stuff found in source code from being included,
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:41 PM
oh okay
divingkxt 4/21/2018 12:41 PM
so long as it's available publically.
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:41 PM
it is
12:42 PM
the supersponge discs were the best $130 ever spent
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 12:42 PM
ok imma go in game and find the other stuff, ok?
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:42 PM
I freaking LOVE looking through these things (edited)
12:43 PM
it's so rare you find discs containing everything that went into a game's development
divingkxt 4/21/2018 12:43 PM
And they even include several materials from the show.
12:44 PM
Like storyboards, scripts, backgrounds, unused shots, etc.
12:44 PM
Even raw materials like the episode credits background and the theme song.
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:44 PM
I have been checking ebay nonstop for prototypes for years
12:44 PM
it's rare something interesting pops up
12:45 PM
were there any other games where someone found the source code and released it online?
12:45 PM
I know there was also a muppets pico game
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 12:45 PM
alright, heres something interesting, i actually found the beta name for this store
12:45 PM
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:47 PM
the worst title one could give a game
divingkxt 4/21/2018 12:47 PM
You don't say.
12:48 PM
Ever since Prototype was released, copies have flooded EBay like crazy.
JacobLenstar 4/21/2018 12:48 PM
is it even a good game?
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 12:48 PM
yeah it is
12:49 PM
ive played it on xbox
divingkxt 4/21/2018 12:49 PM
Xbox 360.
12:50 PM
Had to clarify because people just say "Xbox" way too much and don't clarify which Xbox.
12:50 PM
Xbox? Xbox 360? Xbox One? Xbox One X?\
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/21/2018 12:50 PM
try something like "prototype -xbox -playstation"
12:50 PM
kinda sucks if youre lookin for PS or xbox BETAs though
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 12:53 PM
alright, heres something really interesting. this is a very early version of the final boss stage, which was most likely later turned into a test area.
12:53 PM
12:53 PM
the top of this even has collision
divingkxt 4/21/2018 1:36 PM
Nice find.
1:36 PM
The textures are obvious placeholders.
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 1:45 PM
i would assume the crank thing in the second pic was to pull up katey and stacey
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/21/2018 2:56 PM
im slightly uncomfortable rn
2:57 PM
i just found an unused cutscene in patapon 3
2:57 PM
which shows the hero's limbs
2:57 PM
being torn off
2:57 PM
i dont know if i should link it or not...
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 3:00 PM
link it
3:01 PM
wait
3:01 PM
patapon?
Dezent 4/21/2018 3:01 PM
Link it
3:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkIJsnLBA4c
sankarwfu
DO IT
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 3:02 PM
looks like god of war wasnt happy with patapon after they invaded the underworld...
3:02 PM
if you guys dont know what im talking about...
3:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVE8radJSAk&t=78s
BrawlBRSTMs3 X
Hades - Patapon - PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Music Extended
Deleted User 4/21/2018 3:36 PM
@JacobLenstar You mean... no beta music or anything?
3:37 PM
OH SHOOT
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 3:37 PM
you can check it for yourself
Deleted User 4/21/2018 3:37 PM
I SAID IT AGAIN
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 3:37 PM
its freely available
Deleted User 4/21/2018 3:37 PM
Oh okey
3:37 PM
Gee you seem to be a fan of him
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 3:37 PM
https://archive.org/details/sbspdevarchives.7z
SpongeBob SquarePants: SuperSponge Development Archives : Climax :...
The complete development archives of SpongeBob SquarePants: SuperSponge on PlayStation, developed by Climax in 2001. It contains the game's entire source code,...
3:38 PM
im gonna download it again, i fucking love that disc
3:38 PM
always full of goodies
Deleted User 4/21/2018 3:38 PM
How do you open the files for the disc??
3:38 PM
The Melee kiosk one
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 3:38 PM
3:38 PM
GCISO?
3:39 PM
wew
divingkxt 4/21/2018 3:39 PM
https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/619/
GCRebuilder
GameCube Rebuilder a tool for editing Nintendo GameCube images. Main features:

- extact (expor

CrashOveride 4/21/2018 3:39 PM
thx
Deleted User 4/21/2018 3:51 PM
I can't access the demo's files
divingkxt 4/21/2018 3:52 PM
It's probably in a gcm file that needs to be extracted itself.
Deleted User 4/21/2018 3:53 PM
It's a 7Z file
divingkxt 4/21/2018 3:54 PM
Oh.
3:54 PM
WinRAR or 7zip then.
Deleted User 4/21/2018 3:55 PM
Okeydokes, thanks!
3:58 PM
AAAAAAAAAAGH
3:58 PM
Both programs ask for admin downloads
3:58 PM
FRICK
divingkxt 4/21/2018 4:00 PM
Wait, you're using a public computer?
4:00 PM
I mean, just run it anyway.
Deleted User 4/21/2018 4:01 PM
I'm trying to, but it asks for a password
4:01 PM
AND I DONT KNOW IT
divingkxt 4/21/2018 4:01 PM
Where are you trying to download this?
4:01 PM
https://www.7-zip.org/
4:01 PM
Here?
4:02 PM
I mean, you really need to use your own.
Deleted User 4/21/2018 4:02 PM
Oh
4:02 PM
I think it's working
GerbilSoft 4/21/2018 4:10 PM
https://github.com/GerbilSoft/file/commits/gs.2017-06-21.cri-adx.v4 finally got around to sending this batch of 20 patches to the upstream maintainer
GerbilSoft/file
Read-only mirror of file CVS repository, updated every half hour. NOTE: do not make pull requests here, nor comment any commits, submit them usual way to bug tracker or to the mailing list. Maintai...
Deleted User 4/21/2018 4:26 PM
Huh... it won't let me.
4:26 PM
Can you check?
divingkxt 4/21/2018 4:32 PM
What do you mean?
4:32 PM
I mean, I have no idea what the computer you're using is like.
4:32 PM
Is it a library computer?
4:32 PM
Is it something your parents set up?
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 4:33 PM
^
Deleted User 4/21/2018 4:33 PM
Idk
4:33 PM
It just won't let me
4:34 PM
Can you check it yourself?
4:34 PM
Just curious
4:34 PM
Or
4:34 PM
I could ask @JacobLenstar
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 4:34 PM
4:34 PM
what do you mean by wont let you
Deleted User 4/21/2018 4:34 PM
It just wn't
4:34 PM
Idk why
4:34 PM
But still
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 4:34 PM
thats vague as fuck
Deleted User 4/21/2018 4:35 PM
I JUST DONT KNOW OK?
4:35 PM
I'm not used to doing files and stuff
4:35 PM
Lemur's a professional
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 4:35 PM
4:36 PM
uhok
divingkxt 4/21/2018 4:36 PM
I ask because normally it doesn't ask me for an admin password on my computer.
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 4:36 PM
^
divingkxt 4/21/2018 4:36 PM
Windows 7 Home Premium, btw.
Deleted User 4/21/2018 4:39 PM
Still tho
divingkxt 4/21/2018 4:40 PM
Screenshots?
4:40 PM
I mean, press Prt Scr, open up Paint, press Ctrl + V, save that image, and upload it here.
4:41 PM
To show what you're talking about.
CrashOveride 4/21/2018 4:41 PM
or alt+printscreen
4:41 PM
you can just do printscrn then press ctrlv in discord
4:41 PM
as example
4:41 PM
no mspaint needed
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/21/2018 5:15 PM
@Dezent @ThrowingOutRoX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBFGu8E2XKo
owocek
Patapon 3 Hero's Torture Unused Cutscene [GRAPHIC]
5:16 PM
i was browsing through cutscene ids
5:16 PM
i did NOT expect this
5:16 PM
at all
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 5:16 PM
oof
Wumbo 4/21/2018 5:34 PM
Speaking of the Development Archives...
5:34 PM
Also
5:35 PM
Some images I found
divingkxt 4/21/2018 5:36 PM
Like mockup screens or early dev pictures.
Wumbo 4/21/2018 5:36 PM
Here's the one image
5:36 PM
And the other
5:37 PM
That was formatted very badly
5:37 PM
Sorry about that
5:37 PM
The top image is just a render and the .max file for it can be found inside the dump
5:37 PM
The bottom one looks like an in-game screenshot
5:40 PM
And here's a level editor
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 7:59 PM
guys i need to tell you something
7:59 PM
i was editing a dr1 survivors textures to make him have jeans
7:59 PM
7:59 PM
but then i realize
7:59 PM
im being watched
3
4
Lance 4/21/2018 8:09 PM
8:09 PM
cut content confirmed
8:09 PM
deepest lore
Revenant 4/21/2018 8:10 PM
awful
2
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 8:11 PM
ok so i just realized
8:11 PM
so you know how that texture has eyes, right?
8:12 PM
aarons facial texture also has eyes...
8:12 PM
which one is the imposter?!
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/21/2018 8:14 PM
freaky
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 8:15 PM
its just eye after eye
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/21/2018 8:15 PM
anyways the cutscene i found seems to be done in every language
8:15 PM
so thats neat
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 8:16 PM
i just remembered, the game has a cult called the "true eye" culy
8:16 PM
*cult
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/21/2018 8:16 PM
8:16 PM
this is the japanese version
ThrowingOutRoX 4/21/2018 8:16 PM
some people say "open your 3rd eye"
8:16 PM
aaron has opened his 6th
4
leilei 4/21/2018 8:33 PM
as a 3d artist i'm not a fan of eyeball spheres
8:33 PM
i like filling in the eyesocket with polys and let the uv calculations decide
8:34 PM
i'm not even a fan of doa2's modeling techniques and i'm trying to study that game
8:34 PM
seriously who subdivides the top of an ear
8:34 PM
who uses uvspheres for breasts
MrRichard999 4/21/2018 8:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2rox2njKjA
kmlkmljkl
YOU MOTHERFUCKERS
Deleted User 4/21/2018 9:18 PM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/987738400546545664 --- Trying to help spread @Deleted User's tweet.
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
If you own any cassette tapes that were created for these robots, please send me a DM.
leilei 4/21/2018 9:19 PM
i might have a 2xl tape hoarded somewhere deep
9:20 PM
dunno if i'll ever dig it up though
Deleted User 4/21/2018 9:22 PM
leilei 4/21/2018 9:22 PM
and the cundition of it would also be unknown since it's been stuck in a box in a basement storage room for the past 20 years (edited)
Deleted User 4/21/2018 9:22 PM
the one I was able to locate today was in very rough condition (edited)
leilei 4/21/2018 9:22 PM
iirc 2xl played a single mono channel from either side
Deleted User 4/21/2018 9:22 PM
still played though
9:22 PM
yeah
9:23 PM
it outputs off the left channel
9:23 PM
right channel is some hum bullshit
9:23 PM
did a test recording
9:23 PM
I need a new 2XL robot though.
leilei 4/21/2018 9:23 PM
and it also played in reverse iirc? (edited)
Deleted User 4/21/2018 9:23 PM
Mine for some reason plays back at about double speed.
9:24 PM
I say for some reason, but that robot is also in rough shape.
punk7890 4/21/2018 9:42 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/987869095331708928
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a massive amount of unused maps and several debug menus in Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana (Windows) https://t.co/8Rb0IrqGEi These maps mostly contain all of the game's enemies, NPCs, and objects. They also test various conversation scripts a...
9:42 PM
Deleted User 4/21/2018 9:47 PM
donttell.nintendo.com
Revenant 4/21/2018 9:48 PM
1997.com.hk
leilei 4/21/2018 9:52 PM
wii-sports-beta's.nintendo.co.jp
Paulweeze71 4/21/2018 9:57 PM
Nintendoknockoffs.com
9:58 PM
Getlucky12341 4/21/2018 10:01 PM
I'm making a page for a steam game on tcrf, should the release date be the day it left early access?
Deleted User 4/21/2018 10:02 PM
yes
10:02 PM
also make sure the content you're adding isn't from the early access version
Getlucky12341 4/21/2018 10:04 PM
okay
Deleted User 4/21/2018 10:31 PM
Risky question, but does anyone know what's the "definitive website" to look for video game prototypes and buy them?
10:32 PM
Or well, just the most recomended one.
Revenant 4/21/2018 10:34 PM
ebay and yahoo japan auctions
Deleted User 4/21/2018 10:36 PM
Ok, but should I expect the offers to have the name "Prototype", which will make the Ps3/X360 game appear or "Beta", cause reasons?
leilei 4/21/2018 10:36 PM
i'd advise avoiding searching with the term "beta"
10:36 PM
you'd probably turn up cons
EdTheNerd 4/21/2018 10:37 PM
also various "prototypes" on ebay are review samples written to dev carts for reviewers
ゲームボーイ64 4/21/2018 10:37 PM
erm
EdTheNerd 4/21/2018 10:37 PM
be warey of cartridges/discs with the word "sample" where the seller cant list a single diference (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 4/21/2018 10:37 PM
yaj doen’t usually turn up 360 or xbox prototypes in general
Paulweeze71 4/21/2018 11:16 PM
Looking for anything particular?
11:17 PM
dirty solicitor approaching...
EdTheNerd 4/21/2018 11:44 PM
intercepts
Paulweeze71 4/22/2018 12:04 AM
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/22/2018 12:58 AM
mmmkay
12:58 AM
im gonna figure out how mission loading works in patapon 3 100 hour demo
12:58 AM
its slightly different
12:58 AM
but if i can figure it out ill try to load cutscenes in there
12:58 AM
see if theres anything new or different
Lance 4/22/2018 1:07 AM
I just added a little section to the "Bloodborne" page. It's my first time editing on TCRF
1:07 AM
can anyone tell me if I did okay? I added the "Warp Chairs" section
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 1:59 AM
this is randy tugman without his mask and he is just the most beautiful boy ive ever seen
divingkxt 4/22/2018 2:00 AM
And tears, boy.
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:01 AM
huh?
2:02 AM
what does that mean and why do i feel threatened by it
Deleted User 4/22/2018 2:06 AM
He looks like someone with mental disabilities tbh
2:07 AM
I'mnot trying to be insulting but it kinda looks like it
2:07 AM
I know a few people I met like that
divingkxt 4/22/2018 2:07 AM
@ThrowingOutRoX It's a reference to a certain 90's song.
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:07 AM
ok
divingkxt 4/22/2018 2:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiMrrleH_hI
Underworld
Underworld - Born Slippy (Nuxx)
2:07 AM
This one.
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:08 AM
i aint from the 90s so yeah
divingkxt 4/22/2018 2:08 AM
"She was a beautiful boy and tears boy"
2:08 AM
"And all in your inner space boy You had hands girl boy and steel boy"
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:08 AM
finally, a song about randy
2:08 AM
our beautiful boy
2:08 AM
2:09 AM
yeah, he looks much better with the mask on
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:27 AM
oh
2:30 AM
also there is this box out of bounds in the slot ranch casino
2:31 AM
ok
2:31 AM
sure thing my man
Chris 4/22/2018 2:31 AM
I'm scared.
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:31 AM
i am too, my other friend
2:32 AM
tbh you guys are probably gonna get banned causing me to get banned cause im already on thin ice
2:32 AM
ok
2:32 AM
show us
2:32 AM
2:33 AM
hmm
EdTheNerd 4/22/2018 2:33 AM
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:33 AM
uh oh
2:33 AM
there he goes
2:34 AM
he got knocked outta this world
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 2:34 AM
EdTheNerd 4/22/2018 2:34 AM
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:35 AM
oh fuck
Dezent 4/22/2018 2:35 AM
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:35 AM
he got banned
2:35 AM
my other friend left
2:35 AM
im next
EdTheNerd 4/22/2018 2:36 AM
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 2:37 AM
ThrowingOutRoX 4/22/2018 2:37 AM
eh, might as well do the work for them.
Dezent 4/22/2018 2:37 AM
Problem solved
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 2:38 AM
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divingkxt 4/22/2018 2:39 AM
And don't come back, please.
Kyuchumimo👽✨ 4/22/2018 3:00 AM
Hello, a long time ago, send a message to the Facebook TCRF page but they never answered, it was a contribution to the page. In fact, the Facebook page no longer exists. I would like to know if I can somehow do that here.
divingkxt 4/22/2018 3:02 AM
Want to make an account?
3:04 AM
@Kyuchumimo👽✨ Which contribution?
3:04 AM
I can make an account for you, if you want.
Kyuchumimo👽✨ 4/22/2018 3:06 AM
No, I want to show you graphics and unused content from a video game. The game is called Hot Wheels: Stunt Track Challenge for Game Boy Advance
divingkxt 4/22/2018 3:06 AM
Oh.
3:06 AM
You can upload it here.
Kyuchumimo👽✨ 4/22/2018 3:07 AM
Right here on this channel?
divingkxt 4/22/2018 3:08 AM
Yes.
Kyuchumimo👽✨ 4/22/2018 3:10 AM
This is a trophy not used in the game (Hot Wheels: Stunt Track Challenge GBA)
divingkxt 4/22/2018 3:13 AM
Do you have a better screenshot than that?
Kyuchumimo👽✨ 4/22/2018 3:14 AM
No, sorry
divingkxt 4/22/2018 3:14 AM
In that case, someone will have to dig through the game to find a better quality image.
Kyuchumimo👽✨ 4/22/2018 3:17 AM
You can perform the glitch easily to access this content by emulator, but I'm the only person who knows how to perform that glitch
divingkxt 4/22/2018 3:18 AM
So, seen through some GBA emulator glitch with VBA or Boycott.
Kyuchumimo👽✨ 4/22/2018 3:22 AM
This is the Test Race Track, only available on Stunt School mode. In this screen you can see a track map, which in normal gameplay you never see it because the timekeeper and track map does not appears
3:25 AM
Yeah, but the glitch also works in real hardware. Is done by pressing a series of buttons repeatedly
3:31 AM
Another trophy not used in the game. It does not look like a trophy, perhaps within that frame it would be the place where the trophies would appear
3:38 AM
Text not used in the game. Where it says "New vehicle available:" it puts under "Regenerate". It is quite strange, since there is no such Hot Wheel vehicle with that name
Winterツ 4/22/2018 3:40 AM
F R I C K
3:40 AM
I dropped my ds
1
3:43 AM
@divingkxt i dropped my ds what do?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/22/2018 4:08 AM
check for damage
Neko May 4/22/2018 4:13 AM
@Winterツ: notices your avatar OwO
4:13 AM
Fellow furry? :3
Winterツ 4/22/2018 4:14 AM
ok good sir
Neko May 4/22/2018 4:14 AM
Is that a yes? >.>
4:21 AM
Okay, I'm off to sleep. Have a great day, everyone!
Winterツ 4/22/2018 5:27 AM
ok great sir of the americas or whatever
5:34 AM
females are gay because they like enis
EdTheNerd 4/22/2018 5:44 AM
Nex 4/22/2018 6:35 AM
thats deep bro
Deleted User 4/22/2018 6:49 AM
6:49 AM
Nex 4/22/2018 7:04 AM
Deleted User 4/22/2018 8:12 AM
Whatever happened to @ThrowingOutRoX?
8:13 AM
WHAT DID YOU DO TO HIM???
Deleted User 4/22/2018 8:26 AM
He attempted to post several memes
punk7890 4/22/2018 8:36 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/988033630554345472
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a extra debug function in I/O (PS2) https://t.co/Lbxdd435fw This menu would allow you to boot elfs, play movies, or bring up some type of file editor. You would be able to edit and boot stuff off of the HDD, memory card, DVD, or via netw...
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8:36 AM
FMecha 4/22/2018 9:28 AM
I wonder how it would be useful for Free McBoot had it worked
caff!!! 4/22/2018 12:10 PM
@punk7890 seems kinda fitting a game called I/O would have a menu like that. I wonder if it was self made or a SDK tool that slipped in final
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 12:16 PM
..huh
12:16 PM
I'm doing some updates on my mom's laptop
12:16 PM
Shift-Space doesn't work, which trips me up when typing things (I expect it to act like space)
12:17 PM
But the weird thing is, xev shows that it isn't a keyboard problem - the key code shows up
12:17 PM
It's translated to NoSymbol
12:20 PM
...seems to be related to xfce keyboard layouts - in Hebrew layout, it works fine
12:20 PM
But the English(US) layout is broken
divingkxt 4/22/2018 12:56 PM
@Deleted User Yeah, he discussed a topic that is rather NSFW here.
12:57 PM
He broke at least three of the five bullet points in the rules.
Deleted User 4/22/2018 12:58 PM
I never liked him tbh
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/22/2018 1:18 PM
@divingkxt hey, would unused text differences even count on wiki?
divingkxt 4/22/2018 1:18 PM
Sure.
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/22/2018 1:18 PM
like
1:18 PM
gimme a sec
1:18 PM
english
1:18 PM
japanese
1:19 PM
japanese says "placeholder text 0 for uberhero" and "placeholder text 0 for madfang ragewolf"
divingkxt 4/22/2018 1:19 PM
And it has "translation not needed" too.
Deleted User 4/22/2018 4:32 PM
been exploring for unused stuff in this game and so far found a fun one for the subweapon; index number 12 for it makes you walk in the same spot when you use it lmao (edited)
Castlevania_-_Symphony_of_the_night_Ntsc-U.mcd
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4:34 PM
also activated all reliqs slots, even unused one and seems one makes you able to deal damage twice when you have no weapon selected (aka barehand) i haven't tried it yet with a weapon
4:34 PM
idk if this is tcrf worthy? (edited)
4:39 PM
subweapon value in ram is at 00097BFC
divingkxt 4/22/2018 4:51 PM
Don't really know enough about SoTN internally to say.
Deleted User 4/22/2018 4:56 PM
i think there's a more ovbious unused thing = p lmao
4:57 PM
some of the unused stuff has japanese kanas, idk what they mean
4:58 PM
this weapon do nothing, as expected (edited)
4:59 PM
this is the weapon index FF
5:01 PM
here's a seemingly more meaningful one
5:05 PM
this is fun
darkwitchclaire 4/22/2018 5:06 PM
No$psx? haven't seen that before :/
Deleted User 4/22/2018 5:07 PM
damn, just noticed that last thing game me like 250 of attack and defense, probably a debug weapon
5:07 PM
also no$psx is literally the best psx emulator
5:09 PM
the most accurate one, also most commonly used for development and debugging http://problemkaputt.de/psx.htm
5:09 PM
i recommend it 100%
5:09 PM
btw should i add this stuff to tcrf?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/22/2018 5:10 PM
>the most accurate one
darkwitchclaire 4/22/2018 5:10 PM
I use mednafen
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/22/2018 5:10 PM
Deleted User 4/22/2018 5:10 PM
it is the most accurate one afaik
5:10 PM
mednafen's psx is very accurate too (edited)
divingkxt 4/22/2018 5:13 PM
That kind of debug weapon can be added.
Deleted User 4/22/2018 5:13 PM
nice! :D
5:14 PM
gonna have fun documenting all those
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/22/2018 5:14 PM
sotn literally the OoT of PS1
5:14 PM
except maybe the hacking department
Deleted User 4/22/2018 5:15 PM
also damn, it gonna be a rough task lol also have to check for unused armor, helmet, capes and accessories lol
5:15 PM
cool these most have an special effect
5:16 PM
some triggers an animation, others lowers some stats to 0, or add an incredible amount to them
5:20 PM
also lmao ^
5:21 PM
others crash the game deliberately...
5:21 PM
rip
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/22/2018 5:22 PM
haha
5:22 PM
found it
5:22 PM
5:22 PM
patapon 3 multi demo has the e3 trailer
5:23 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/22/2018 5:23 PM
pomf
Revo 4/22/2018 5:48 PM
okay, i think its time i can talk about this
5:48 PM
anyone remember when i was talking about GBA decomp
5:49 PM
well
5:49 PM
i didnt talk about it, but at the time there was a lesser project going on for console to match decomp
5:51 PM
in the last few weeks we've managed to reproduce Nintendo 64 decompilation to match for a majority of games (Games seemed to use either MipsPRO 5.3 or 6.2 and later or GCC) by modifying qemu to run IRIX binaries in order to run the original compiler. As proof, we have also proven one example: Super Mario 64 used IRIX 5.3 with IDO 5.3 installed with the SGI provided r4300 mulmul patch: using `-g -mips2 -non_shared -G 0` produces matching assembly
5:51 PM
so yes, there does exist a Super Mario 64 decompilation to match project now (on a private github somewhere)
5:52 PM
Super Mario 64 seems to have used -g instead of a normal O level for whatever reason
5:52 PM
this is due to the way delay slot usage was combined with the nop jumps seen in US/JP
5:53 PM
in MipsPRO, -gN levels override O levels
5:53 PM
here's an example of a function:
5:53 PM
`static u32 act_hold_water_jump(struct MarioState *m) { if (m->marioObj->interactStatus & 0x00000008) return drop_and_set_mario_action(m, ACT_FREEFALL, 0); if (m->forwardVel < 15.0f) func_802514DC(m, 15.0f); func_80251410(m, 0x04328081, 0); func_802507E8(m, 0x0041); switch (func_80256940(m, 0)) { case AIR_STEP_LANDED: set_mario_action(m, ACT_UNKNOWN_074, 0); func_80285BD8(m->area->unk24, m->area->unk24[1], 1); break; case AIR_STEP_HIT_WALL: func_802514DC(m, 15.0f); break; case AIR_STEP_HIT_LAVA_WALL: lava_boost_on_wall(m); break; } return 0; }`
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 5:58 PM
>delay slots
5:58 PM
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
5:59 PM
incidentally, The Old New Thing is running a multi-part MIPS R4000 series
5:59 PM
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/
5:59 PM
and apparently, sometimes the branch delay slot acts weird
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/22/2018 6:00 PM
maybe i shouldnt be tackling all of this stuff at once
6:01 PM
not pictured: patapon3europemultidemo (edited)
Revo 4/22/2018 6:09 PM
fun fact, apparently the nintendo 64 r4300 had a weird errata behavior that wasn't intended and had to be patched out in the assembler
6:10 PM
`R4300 Errata Nintendo-64 CPU Multiply Errata Preliminary release 1/10/96 ==================================================================== Description The following back-to-back multiply code sequence in the processor pipeline has the potential of producing an incorrect result in the second multiply: mul.[s,d] fd,fs,ft mul.[s,d] fd,fs,ft or [D]MULT[U] rs,rt The error happens only when the first multiply is single- or double-precision floating-point operation and when one or both of its source operands are: Signalling Not-a-Number (sNaN), 0 (Zero), or infinity (Inf). The second multiply instruction may produce an incorrect result depending on the operands of the 1st multiply and the operands of the 2nd multiply. The second multiply can be a multiply of any data type: floating-point or integer, single- or double-precision, sign or unsign integer. This code sequence can occur in the pipeline in two ways: 1) The multiplies are back-to-back in the source code. 2) The first multiply is in a branch delay slot and the second multiply is the target instruction of the branch. Software Workaround When an instruction of any kind (e.g. NOP) is executed between the two multiply instructions, the problem is eliminated. That is to aviod any back-to-back multiply instructions. Affected Versions This problem happens on versions 1.x, 2.0 and 2.1 of the CPU.`
6:10 PM
it's weird
6:10 PM
when you have 2 muls in a row, it wont actually produce a correct result if the first result is nan 0 or infinity
6:10 PM
so the assembler "patch" just adds a nop between them
6:10 PM
apparently that fixes it
6:10 PM
for floating point calculations
Winterツ 4/22/2018 6:11 PM
Saturn sounds like a scream at 2x speed (edited)
Revo 4/22/2018 6:11 PM
anyway, the short answer is that nintendo 64 decomp to match is practical now
6:12 PM
already underway for sm64
6:12 PM
for TAS science, of course
divingkxt 4/22/2018 6:13 PM
At the rate you guys are going, you can decompile almost any software.
Incineroar 4/22/2018 6:13 PM
i like science
Nex 4/22/2018 6:13 PM
decompile my life and fix it pls
Revo 4/22/2018 6:13 PM
yeah, PS1 and Saturn decomp might be possible too
Incineroar 4/22/2018 6:14 PM
something that would be interesting to see, actually, @Revo, is a decomp of say, Pulseman. I'm super curious to see how similar the coding styles would be between Genesis and GB considering most of the same staff worked on both
Revo 4/22/2018 6:14 PM
so it might be possible to recover the Panzer Dragoon Saga source code by match decompiling it
Incineroar 4/22/2018 6:14 PM
obviously it's different instructions but
6:14 PM
how "similar" would it be
Revo 4/22/2018 6:15 PM
PS1 uses MIPS 3 CPU as well, which is curious
6:15 PM
r3000 instead of 4300
Nex 4/22/2018 6:15 PM
@divingkxt just saying but in the LBP3 page is also a unleaked alpha listed
6:15 PM
probably from the same dude
Revo 4/22/2018 6:15 PM
it was not however SGI toolchains though
6:15 PM
so its unlikely to have officially used mipspro
6:15 PM
i wonder if devs used gcc
6:15 PM
lol
Deleted User 4/22/2018 6:15 PM
seems the developers had some fun
Revo 4/22/2018 6:16 PM
sm64 decomp is already 6.8%, its going fast for a few reasons
6:16 PM
1] turns out devs used -g
Incineroar 4/22/2018 6:16 PM
Revo 4/22/2018 6:16 PM
so all the asm is literally 1:1 with the C
6:16 PM
its so easy to decomp
6:16 PM
2] old compiler makes it even easier
Incineroar 4/22/2018 6:16 PM
at this rate you could be 100% in just a few months
Revo 4/22/2018 6:16 PM
3] mips being 32-bit instructions makes the code super undense
6:16 PM
decomp goes very fast
6:17 PM
4] sm64 isn't a big game, codebase wise
6:17 PM
only around 3,000 functions
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:17 PM
counterpoint: modern 64-bit x86
6:17 PM
:V
Revo 4/22/2018 6:17 PM
there is LOTS of floating point math functions though
6:17 PM
kinda sucks
6:17 PM
at least -g makes it easy
Incineroar 4/22/2018 6:17 PM
it's almost tempting to get an Indy online just to replicate the environment and be able to build the game using the repo
Revo 4/22/2018 6:17 PM
tedious, but easy
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:17 PM
did they realize they were building without optimizations
Revo 4/22/2018 6:17 PM
yes, Ocarina of Time uses -g as well
6:17 PM
retail does
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:18 PM
...why
6:18 PM
that seems like a really terrible oversight
divingkxt 4/22/2018 6:18 PM
@Nex Different dude.
Incineroar 4/22/2018 6:18 PM
maybe a bug resulted from using optimizations?
Nex 4/22/2018 6:18 PM
hmmm I see
Revo 4/22/2018 6:18 PM
in fact, we think every Nintendo EAD title may use -g
6:18 PM
most games use O2 though
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:18 PM
challenge: rebuild some N64 games with optimizations (with the same compiler) and see if it changes anything
Revo 4/22/2018 6:18 PM
in fact, Super Mario 64 Europe/Shindou use O2
6:18 PM
instead of -g
6:18 PM
those are way harder to decompile
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:18 PM
interesting
Revo 4/22/2018 6:18 PM
thats why the asm is so different
6:19 PM
-g vs O2
Incineroar 4/22/2018 6:19 PM
i've had Android code give different results in how the code runs when I use a debug build vs a release build
6:19 PM
(I'm trying to mash a bug that's occuring in this way and I have no clue how to fix it)
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:19 PM
i had a bug like that before
Revo 4/22/2018 6:19 PM
fun fact, we know of at least 1 n64 game which uses gcc
6:19 PM
Paper Mario uses gcc
6:19 PM
gcc 2.8.1 to be exact
6:19 PM
binutils 2.9.1
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:19 PM
https://github.com/GerbilSoft/rom-properties/commit/1bf0c0aededbe905015ccd6c8c86fe06c1e64bf8
[win32] RP_ExtractIcon: Always specify GIL_DONTCACHE. · GerbilSof...
If we don't set GIL_DONTCACHE, the first icon extracted will be used as the icon for all handled files. I have no idea why. The issue was showing up in Release builds in both VC10 and VC14, bu...
divingkxt 4/22/2018 6:20 PM
https://tcrf.net/Fighting_Force_64 How about this game?
Fighting Force 64
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:20 PM
i specified GIL_DONTCACHE in debug builds but not in release builds, since i didn't want icons cached while debugging it
Revo 4/22/2018 6:20 PM
the sm64 decomp github is gonna be private for a while though. Nintendo is a big scary mean bear
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:20 PM
turns out the icon cache is completely broken when using custom icon handlers like this
6:20 PM
so what'd happen is if you have a directory of e.g. NDS ROMs
6:20 PM
it'd get the icon for the first one
6:20 PM
then use that same icon for the rest of them
Revo 4/22/2018 6:21 PM
wow
6:21 PM
FF64 has uncompiled source, i should check that out
6:21 PM
that code reeks of macros and typedefs though
6:21 PM
you still need to guess those
6:24 PM
`int brk_handler_null(BRKOBJ *brk,MOB *m,int *dp,ANIM *manptr) { return(0); }` who the hell writes return(n)
6:24 PM
return 0; is perfectly fine
6:25 PM
ewwww they used tabs
6:25 PM
DansGame
divingkxt 4/22/2018 6:25 PM
?
Revo 4/22/2018 6:25 PM
`else if(level==LEVEL_15) { level_logic_15(); } else if(level==LEVEL_21) { do_21_ambientsound(); } else if(level==LEVEL_22) { set_traffic_lights(); if(game_del > 30*2 && sublev && (game_del&7)==0 ) { for(j=0,k=0,m=&mobs[0];j<nmobs;j++,m++) { if(m->type==OD_22POLCEBAR OR m->type==OD_22POLCBAR2) { dual_rumble (RFX_EXP);`
6:25 PM
discord converted it to spaces
6:25 PM
thats how bad it is
divingkxt 4/22/2018 6:25 PM
Ick.
6:26 PM
That's nothing compared to this: https://tcrf.net/Wayne_Gretzky%27s_3D_Hockey_%2798_(Nintendo_64)/Uncompiled_Source_Code
Uncompiled Source Code
6:26 PM
Definitions galore.
6:27 PM
Here's the other game with notable uncompiled code: https://tcrf.net/NHL_Breakaway_99_(Nintendo_64)/Uncompiled_Source_Code
Uncompiled Source Code
Deleted User 4/22/2018 6:29 PM
@Revo Majora's Mask and Doubustu no Mori should be prime candidates then
Revo 4/22/2018 6:30 PM
whats Doubustu no Mori
6:30 PM
Deleted User 4/22/2018 6:30 PM
Animal Crossing
6:30 PM
original N64 release, JP only
Revo 4/22/2018 6:30 PM
o
6:31 PM
probably, but what we do for n64 decomps is emulate the compiler using a modified qemu
6:31 PM
its really janky
6:31 PM
this setup is a hack on top of a hack
Deleted User 4/22/2018 6:31 PM
lol
6:31 PM
just mentioning them cause they use the same engine
Revo 4/22/2018 6:31 PM
and it can just segfaults when it feels like it
6:31 PM
it happens
Incineroar 4/22/2018 6:38 PM
doesn't the GC animal crossing just literally copy itself to RAM because it's that small?
Nex 4/22/2018 6:42 PM
I think you can take the game out and keep playing (edited)
divingkxt 4/22/2018 6:44 PM
You can.
6:45 PM
The only time you ever need to read the disc is when going back to the title screen.
6:45 PM
Animal Crossing on the GC also has symbol tables in the last 100 Megs or so in the disc.
Revo 4/22/2018 6:45 PM
god i wish GC toolchain collectors were a little looser with acquiring their compilers
6:46 PM
so i can start collecting GC metrowerk compilers
Kelton 4/22/2018 6:48 PM
new permanent invite for rgd (shameless ik, but i posted it before and we had to change cause some ass was trying to raid) https://discord.gg/Hg6WhKg
6:48 PM
@Revo i have ones from the Wii SDK but, you know, configured for Wii
Revo 4/22/2018 6:49 PM
could still be interested in Wii. PBR decomp, but not only is that a way later game, and the compiler is way better, but... C++ decomp is uncharted territory
6:49 PM
and probably leagues harder
6:50 PM
as compilers get newer the idea of matching decomp becomes closer and closer to brute force
Kelton 4/22/2018 6:50 PM
fwiw the wii ones still seem to come with files for gc platforms
Revo 4/22/2018 6:50 PM
because compilers just transform functions completely
6:50 PM
in terms of the asm you expect
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:50 PM
also
Revo 4/22/2018 6:50 PM
but idk, maybe that means it suddenly gets easier again
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:51 PM
gcc8 deprecated PowerPC paired singles
Revo 4/22/2018 6:51 PM
because the compiler makes the exact asm you expect (edited)
6:51 PM
paradoxically
6:51 PM
old compilers - easy decomp
6:51 PM
newer-ish compiler - way harder
6:51 PM
even newer compilers - easy again
GerbilSoft 4/22/2018 6:51 PM
depends on the optimizations used
Kelton 4/22/2018 7:03 PM
@Revo if you know anything about decompiling and RE wii/gc stuff we could use your help with something
Revo 4/22/2018 7:03 PM
wii/gc is here be dragons for me
divingkxt 4/22/2018 7:05 PM
Same for anything that's on DOStel/Wintel PCs.
ゲームボーイ64 4/22/2018 7:19 PM
@GerbilSoft you spelled doubutsu wrong :P
heynow 4/22/2018 7:38 PM
hello
Paulweeze71 4/22/2018 7:40 PM
heynow 4/22/2018 7:44 PM
currently hacking Kirby and the Amazing Mirror
7:45 PM
and it's prototype/beta/demo.
Winterツ 4/22/2018 7:45 PM
Poop
☎ 4/22/2018 8:08 PM
yay, praise the kirb
Revo 4/22/2018 9:59 PM
oh wait, n64 decomp means super man 64 could be decompiled
10:00 PM
i wonder what lovecraftian C code horrors lurk within
Laenthor 4/22/2018 10:00 PM
goto(), lots of gotos
Revo 4/22/2018 10:01 PM
then there's no time to waste
10:01 PM
(edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/22/2018 10:11 PM
a lot of jsrs
divingkxt 4/22/2018 10:30 PM
A lot of imprecise floating point math.
10:30 PM
Which would be why the game has such crappy collision.
divingkxt 4/22/2018 10:51 PM
@Revo Oh, and here's some library of sorts for IBM PCs. https://tcrf.net/Fleet_Sweep
Fleet Sweep
10:51 PM
In assembly.
caff!!! 4/23/2018 12:03 AM
superman 64 will be most likely full of either sloppy code or commented out everything due to licensing hell hurting the game
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:13 AM
Code that's been commented out doesn't get compiled.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/23/2018 12:15 AM
@ゲームボーイ64 you nickflashed the wrong person
ゲームボーイ64 4/23/2018 12:18 AM
what?
12:18 AM
what did I do
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:19 AM
You fucked up big time, man
12:19 AM
It's gonna be your ass on a platter
12:20 AM
j/k
ゲームボーイ64 4/23/2018 12:20 AM
well rip me
12:20 AM
lol
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:20 AM
I think you referenced the wrong person earlier when you corrected a typo
ゲームボーイ64 4/23/2018 12:20 AM
ohhh
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:21 AM
Hey, you like my new avatar? ^w^
ゲームボーイ64 4/23/2018 12:21 AM
it's cute
Deleted User 4/23/2018 12:21 AM
it's cool
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:22 AM
Thank you~ ^o^
12:22 AM
It's by @lovelesskiax on Twitter
Deleted User 4/23/2018 12:22 AM
nice! :D
ゲームボーイ64 4/23/2018 12:23 AM
and if previous avatars haven't said it, i like things that wear glasses
12:23 AM
whatever they be, usually (edited)
Deleted User 4/23/2018 12:23 AM
(edited)
12:23 AM
rip
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:23 AM
My bad
12:23 AM
It's @lovelesskia
ゲームボーイ64 4/23/2018 12:23 AM
there is no problem
12:23 AM
oh oops
12:24 AM
i thought you were talking to me :P
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:24 AM
Glasses add +1 to PER and SXY
ゲームボーイ64 4/23/2018 12:24 AM
i'm still adorable
Deleted User 4/23/2018 12:25 AM
btw, just found a debug item that makes everything that hurts you actually heal you lol
ゲームボーイ64 4/23/2018 12:25 AM
cool
12:25 AM
that sounds useful
Deleted User 4/23/2018 12:25 AM
realized they use like half a word for each index
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:25 AM
Switch a SUB to an ADD
Deleted User 4/23/2018 12:26 AM
i would never be able to document all of them in a lifetime lol
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:27 AM
They should have called it the Nintendo Dom, because you never fuck Nintendo, Nintendo only fucks you. So it's no switch.
Deleted User 4/23/2018 12:27 AM
some items are bugged, though seems most of them works and has a different functionality, is fascinating lol
12:27 AM
also lol ^
Neko May 4/23/2018 12:28 AM
:3
ゲームボーイ64 4/23/2018 12:31 AM
is being adorable
⚓Captain Pirate Goon 4/23/2018 1:24 AM
I wonder
1:25 AM
Why doesn't TCRF have any data on NARC (2005)?
1:25 AM
I personally own the game, but there's no data about it there.
leilei 4/23/2018 1:31 AM
because no one has taken the time to document it for the site
1:32 AM
as in, the time to verify, study, reasearch, not ctrlc/ctrlv'ing potential delusions from dead wikias, etc (edited)
Neko May 4/23/2018 1:35 AM
2005?
1:36 AM
I thought NARC was 1988
⚓Captain Pirate Goon 4/23/2018 1:36 AM
There was an "upgraded" version in 2005.
1:36 AM
Look it up and search youtube. It exists.
divingkxt 4/23/2018 1:38 AM
Xbox, PC, PS2
MysticSageJosh 4/23/2018 1:38 AM
Oh yeah, the ps2 game
divingkxt 4/23/2018 1:38 AM
I think that may be why.
1:38 AM
It's kind of fallen into obscurity hard
1:38 AM
and no one's really dug into it yet.
MysticSageJosh 4/23/2018 1:38 AM
I have a copy of it
1:39 AM
I haven't ripped it yet, and also my ps2 can't boot it
⚓Captain Pirate Goon 4/23/2018 1:40 AM
I have the Xbox version, and it works fine.
1:40 AM
1:40 AM
Well, before my Xboxes died.
1:40 AM
But still
MysticSageJosh 4/23/2018 1:40 AM
My ps2 can't boot it because I took bad care of the disc
⚓Captain Pirate Goon 4/23/2018 1:40 AM
rip
MysticSageJosh 4/23/2018 1:40 AM
Plus my ps2's disc drive isn't the best either
⚓Captain Pirate Goon 4/23/2018 1:41 AM
I hear you. My PS2's optical drive is 256 ^ 8 more sensitive to scratches than anything else. XD
MysticSageJosh 4/23/2018 1:42 AM
I don't think modding it helped
⚓Captain Pirate Goon 4/23/2018 1:42 AM
-- oh
1:42 AM
`...`
MysticSageJosh 4/23/2018 1:42 AM
It can do the game swap trick, but I think a piece of dict tape might be slightly hitting my discs?
⚓Captain Pirate Goon 4/23/2018 1:43 AM
... I think, at that point, it's time to buy a new PS2.
leilei 4/23/2018 1:43 AM
the midway years of the 00s have never been particularly noteworthy
MysticSageJosh 4/23/2018 1:43 AM
Maybe a modded ps2, a silver modded ps2..
1:44 AM
Mod chips exist for ps2, so..
punk7890 4/23/2018 7:11 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/988374590811291653
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a small debug function in Angelique Trois (PS2) https://t.co/kKnuXK10P4 This lets you unlock all of the gallery options, pictures, movies and events for each character.
7:11 AM
Halfbit 4/23/2018 9:06 AM
Morning
Dezent 4/23/2018 9:07 AM
yo
GerbilSoft 4/23/2018 11:52 AM
https://github.com/reswitched/fusee-launcher/blob/master/report/fusee_gelee.md
reswitched/fusee-launcher
fusee-launcher - ReSwitched's work-in-progress launcher for one of the Tegra X1 bootROM exploits
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/23/2018 11:53 AM
@punk7890 nice find!
Paulweeze71 4/23/2018 11:57 AM
He's not finding these debug menus, they are finding him...
Deleted User 4/23/2018 12:51 PM
lol
12:54 PM
is there an option in a debugger that let's you see what addresses changed in a certain amount of time? (edited)
Deleted User 4/23/2018 2:55 PM
Tcrf still uses an old version of the tls protocol and also still supports weak dh key exchange: is an upgrade planned?
GerbilSoft 4/23/2018 3:00 PM
looked it up and it should be fixable with some config changes
Deleted User 4/23/2018 3:13 PM
cool
3:14 PM
if anyone needs, here you can check all the probems
3:14 PM
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=tcrf.net
Deleted User 4/23/2018 4:02 PM
found a candle in a odd place, it contains a small heart
4:03 PM
it's a while further pass the room walls on the inverted chamber
Laenthor 4/23/2018 4:05 PM
Ooh, SotN stuff, interesed!
Deleted User 4/23/2018 4:09 PM
also found a huge lot of debug weapons and accessories, i'm trying to find the placement of the debug and unused rooms before i start documenting them in detail
Laenthor 4/23/2018 4:12 PM
Nice, I support you!
4:12 PM
Deleted User 4/23/2018 4:15 PM
thaanks, Laenthor! :D
Laenthor 4/23/2018 4:23 PM
I've heard about a patch/hack that makes the game more balanced, heard about it?
GerbilSoft 4/23/2018 4:26 PM
https://problemkaputt.de/gba.htm DSi coldboot exploit released
Deleted User 4/23/2018 4:37 PM
o, i once heard of it years ago, i haven't checked if there was any update of it, it was unreleased last time i saw
4:37 PM
also nice, GerbilSoft! :D i wish knew how to hardmod my dsi now ;-;
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 4:51 PM
Owo
Laenthor 4/23/2018 5:14 PM
I need to make that HP2 unused animations video but I'm too lazy. I double checked everything so I just have to record and edit. Well I also need disk space...
Deleted User 4/23/2018 5:22 PM
i think i got something new?
5:22 PM
also i'd love to see that tbh! :D
Laenthor 4/23/2018 5:31 PM
I made one for HP1 about 2 months ago. I still have the template so I could just use it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_gEJzl8OA
Laenthor
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone PC - Unused Animations
5:32 PM
There are loads of editing mistakes because of copy-paste errors in sony vegas. The mesh is sometimes the previous one because I went too fast
Deleted User 4/23/2018 5:35 PM
o wait, i'm blind i though you said HR2 referencing to the Double heart refresh glitch on sotn lol my bad :C gonna see it asap tho lol
Laenthor 4/23/2018 5:37 PM
ah no sorry XD
5:42 PM
I can make SotN memes plays Final Toccata
Deleted User 4/23/2018 5:51 PM
this is a really cool find; props, man! :D also nice music too = p
Laenthor 4/23/2018 5:51 PM
Heh thanks
GerbilSoft 4/23/2018 5:55 PM
fyi: the DSi hax has a minor issue right now - if you've installed it, don't go to data management or you will brick
Paulweeze71 4/23/2018 5:56 PM
GerbilSoft 4/23/2018 5:56 PM
apparently it doesn't patch signature verification there
5:56 PM
so if data management encounters an incorrect TMD, it gets deleted immediately
5:56 PM
(3DS data management doesn't do that)
Stewie1.0 4/23/2018 5:57 PM
R we allowed to post any stuff on Action Replay? Cuz several years ago, once when i loaded the DSi one, it loaded the actual Game and Watch game
5:57 PM
And i dont even own it
5:59 PM
Or is that normal at times?
z20kdc 4/23/2018 6:02 PM
it's presumably fine to note "sometimes, Action Replay will turn evil, and load the Game and Watch game"
6:02 PM
"forcing you to endure years of doom" (ok, this might be a bit over-the-top)
Stewie1.0 4/23/2018 6:03 PM
I think its extremely rare to happen
6:03 PM
Cuz it only happened once out of all the times i used it
Paulweeze71 4/23/2018 6:03 PM
The movie Over the Top is over the top...
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/23/2018 6:03 PM
is it safe to say DSi is better programmed in protection than the 3DS
Stewie1.0 4/23/2018 6:04 PM
That could explain y it uses Game and Watch banner. It probably has a full rom of it
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/23/2018 6:08 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT yeah
z20kdc 4/23/2018 6:09 PM
it's to deal with the DSi protection, so I hear - it's the good old bait & switch, bait being the Game and Watch ROM, switch being when it then changes entirely
Revenant 4/23/2018 6:10 PM
https://hackmii.com/2010/02/lawsuit-coming-in-3-2-1/
z20kdc 4/23/2018 6:14 PM
the bit at the bottom about ethics is fun... ethically I'd say interoperability is a decent excuse unless anyone happened to have a better solution at the time legally though I'd say they're absolutely and totally screwed
Stewie1.0 4/23/2018 6:17 PM
Lol so i created the page for Action Replay DSi, and i noticed that i was editing Action Replay DS's page
6:17 PM
Good thing i didnt save
6:18 PM
https://tcrf.net/Action_Replay_DSi
Action Replay DSi
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 6:58 PM
Ah that old hackmii post. I remember reading that one
6:58 PM
Did they ever get sued?
Δndrew P. 4/23/2018 7:00 PM
With the R4i I have it says “Touch! Bomberman Land” on the 3DS HOME Menu
Incineroar 4/23/2018 7:03 PM
@Stewie1.0 The reason for that is that they needed to use a game header that was marked as valid in the Nintendo DSi system's whitelist, so they picked it as part of a reverse-engineering stunt, then hijacked off its loading code to load the code for the Action Replay. When used on a standard Nintendo DS or Lite, it'll just show itself as an Action Replay DSi for the banner
Δndrew P. 4/23/2018 7:03 PM
^
Incineroar 4/23/2018 7:03 PM
Most flashcards worked in the same manner too, but since they could easily be flashed they could just change the game that they used
Δndrew P. 4/23/2018 7:07 PM
so to pretty much sum it up its just to trick the 3DS/DSi its a game in the whitelist (edited)
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:09 PM
It's funny, you can see the cart switching over to the other header in the TWL debugger
Stewie1.0 4/23/2018 7:09 PM
@Incineroar Oh i see
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:09 PM
Theres an led that indicates the cart being in
7:10 PM
Unlike normal carts where the light just goes on and stays that way, when I put my dstwo in, it goes back out then back on, as the cart is doing its switchover (edited)
7:10 PM
Kinda funny seeing it in action
Incineroar 4/23/2018 7:11 PM
it has an LED built into it?
7:12 PM
or is that on the debugger?
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:12 PM
It's on the red box, not the "handheld"
Stewie1.0 4/23/2018 7:12 PM
Should i add that then?
Incineroar 4/23/2018 7:12 PM
ah
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:12 PM
Its just a red led by the cart slot
7:12 PM
I can grab video of people care enough
Stewie1.0 4/23/2018 7:12 PM
For AR DSI
Incineroar 4/23/2018 7:12 PM
up to you if you want to
7:12 PM
it's not a full 100% explanation
7:13 PM
but I think there was a hackmii post that elaborated on exactly how it worked
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:13 PM
Oh, I dunno if I have an AR DSi still, but afaik, the dstwo does the same
7:13 PM
Yes, its linked above
Incineroar 4/23/2018 7:13 PM
oh, completely missed that
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:13 PM
I was just recalling how the debugger shows this happening visually
Incineroar 4/23/2018 7:14 PM
but yeah, it describes how it worked for きゃりーぱみゅぱみゅ
cuba200611 4/23/2018 7:14 PM
I have one somewhere.
7:14 PM
Along with a blue DSi.
Incineroar 4/23/2018 7:14 PM
i have one and usually use it for experimenting with games
cuba200611 4/23/2018 7:14 PM
I don't own a 3DS, however.
Incineroar 4/23/2018 7:14 PM
last I made a code for modifying the Poketch apps in one of the DS games so you could view unused apps
Stewie1.0 4/23/2018 7:16 PM
https://tcrf.net/Action_Replay_DSi Updated
Action Replay DSi
7:22 PM
I actually have a few AR DSi cards, but i think they all stopped working (edited)
GerbilSoft 4/23/2018 7:22 PM
Speaking of debuggers
Stewie1.0 4/23/2018 7:22 PM
My MKDS Kiosk stopped working too
GerbilSoft 4/23/2018 7:22 PM
What exactly is the 7-segment display used for on NDEV
7:22 PM
And the "reserved" button
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:32 PM
Uh, maybe just general output for devs?
7:32 PM
NPDP-GDEV used the same to indicate what disk image was mounted (edited)
punk7890 4/23/2018 7:32 PM
hi
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:33 PM
May have put it there at some point in hardware dev where it may have used a caddy system still?
7:33 PM
I assume it's just general use or fault indication
Paulweeze71 4/23/2018 7:34 PM
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:35 PM
I'd check the SDK docs. I'd guess the reserved button is just gpio
GerbilSoft 4/23/2018 7:38 PM
all i can see from the LED is a generic cycling pattern
7:38 PM
so meh
7:38 PM
@EdTheNerd possibly the same as the RVT-H debug button?
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:38 PM
That's what I think, yeah
7:38 PM
I assume you have the docs?
Paulweeze71 4/23/2018 7:39 PM
Sounds feasible
EdTheNerd 4/23/2018 7:39 PM
I never checked for mention of it
GerbilSoft 4/23/2018 7:54 PM
i have them somewhere
7:54 PM
will look again in a bit
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/23/2018 8:58 PM
hhhhng
8:58 PM
accessing debug in patapon 3 is still hell
8:58 PM
if i ever find out how to unlock it
8:58 PM
thats the biggest achievement i will ever make in my life
Deleted User 4/24/2018 12:02 AM
if you beat dracula as alucard in the prologue, you trigger the gameover screen lol, seems the game handles paradoxs well = p (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/24/2018 12:08 AM
ahaha
punk7890 4/24/2018 1:30 AM
I smell debug
punk7890 4/24/2018 1:39 AM
6
1:39 AM
debug
punk7890 4/24/2018 2:01 AM
2:02 AM
Thank you for labeling the terrain types game.
leilei 4/24/2018 2:09 AM
mateiral debug test room i assume? (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/24/2018 2:14 AM
nice!
punk7890 4/24/2018 2:17 AM
thanks
2:17 AM
@leilei it's a test map yeah
Deleted User 4/24/2018 2:43 AM
what's this game punk7890? :D
2:43 AM
also mad props for all the finding you have got in the last time! \o/
leilei 4/24/2018 2:44 AM
it's gungrave
punk7890 4/24/2018 2:45 AM
GunGrave OD
2:45 AM
also thanks
Nex 4/24/2018 2:45 AM
"I smell debug" - punk, almost everyday
punk7890 4/24/2018 2:45 AM
MysticSageJosh 4/24/2018 2:46 AM
"newest mario party game's debug mode found 1 hour after being released"
Deleted User 4/24/2018 2:48 AM
more like "newest mario party game's debug mode found punk7890" (edited)
2:51 AM
btw found a new unused long room on castlevania sotn, game crashes when going to the next room
punk7890 4/24/2018 2:52 AM
nice
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/24/2018 2:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js4n_WojUmM
SunJiano
I smell a hidden block
2:53 AM
leaked video of punk playing mario party
2:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VY0rn-HAho
darkeye14
Sicko is Psychic
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/24/2018 8:54 AM
I found display the sound driver debug in Korokoro Post nin. https://tcrf.net/Korokoro_Post_Nin
Korokoro Post Nin
Tata 4/24/2018 1:09 PM
I don’t know who’ll see this, but I found something in the screenshot on a Mario Party 5 article. Here’s the link
1:10 PM
https://tcrf.net/Mario_Party_5
Mario Party 5
moonie 4/24/2018 6:28 PM
Does anyone know of any discord servers for console repair/modification? I'm looking for some slightly specialised knowledge
punk7890 4/24/2018 6:35 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ#6843 Nice. What PS1 emulator do you use? (edited)
6:35 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ
☎ 4/24/2018 6:59 PM
@moonie Which console? If it's of an older gen like PS3 and X360, you can try looking on homebrew channels.
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/24/2018 7:27 PM
@punk7890 I use no$psx.
moonie 4/24/2018 7:35 PM
@☎ Famicom. I'm looking for help DIYing a fdsloadr cable for my twin Famicom
7:36 PM
I've got all the parts I need but all the pinouts are for the normal disk system
Paulweeze71 4/24/2018 7:37 PM
Hmm, have a friend that might be able to help out, problem is he doesn't reside here
moonie 4/24/2018 7:40 PM
Oh?
7:40 PM
punk7890 4/24/2018 7:45 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/988926720911622144
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Gungrave: Overdose (PS2) https://t.co/3LkeCuaXWi This one contains more options than the first game. You can play movies, listen to SFX, view models and more. It also contains a level select which has a test map you can c...
7:45 PM
7:48 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ I never had much luck with no$psx. I guess I'll have to fiddle around with it more
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/24/2018 7:48 PM
@punk7890 i challenge you to find a debug mode in the Bee Movie Game (edited)
7:50 PM
iirc @divingkxt joked about it in the IRC a long-ass time ago
punk7890 4/24/2018 8:10 PM
assuming it has one, I could look at it sometime
punk7890 4/24/2018 9:10 PM
having a look at it atm but I don't see anything debuggy
9:10 PM
just some undiscovered cheats
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/24/2018 9:12 PM
punk7890 4/24/2018 9:16 PM
9:16 PM
money cheat
9:16 PM
weird that these button inputs for cheats are in floats
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/24/2018 9:19 PM
ooo
punk7890 4/24/2018 9:21 PM
there's like 10 or so
9:21 PM
I'll get em later
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/24/2018 9:22 PM
you should document these on the site when you get the chance
punk7890 4/24/2018 9:24 PM
that's the plan
Deleted User 4/24/2018 9:28 PM
saving disabled
9:28 PM
bee game is serious shit
divingkxt 4/24/2018 9:36 PM
I mean, at the time, services like XBox Live or PSN were really cracking down on cheating.
9:36 PM
I'm surprised Bee Movie allows cheating at all.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/24/2018 9:37 PM
divingkxt 4/24/2018 9:37 PM
That's also why a lot of the later cheat codes books don't so much list cheat codes, as much as they tell about the stuff that be unlocked by playing through the game. (edited)
9:43 PM
And pre-TCRF, too, before loads of people thought "Hey, why don't I include cheats again? I want my game on TCRF, damnits!"
Deleted User 4/24/2018 10:04 PM
some cheat functions also get shifted over to DLC content
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/24/2018 11:39 PM
hmm
11:40 PM
looks like theres some earlier version hero masks in patapon 3's multi demo
11:40 PM
this is from the full game
11:40 PM
this is from the multi demo
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/25/2018 3:32 AM
wait
3:32 AM
is the bee movie game a GTA clone
Deleted User 4/25/2018 3:36 AM
Anyone happen to know anything about the `Wwise Unity Integration unitypackage`? Trying to get some audio from Yooka Laylee's Switch port. (Organizing it, playing the audio manually, etc)
Deleted User 4/25/2018 5:42 AM
Anyhoo, the name is wrong here
5:42 AM
5:42 AM
It's actually Taizo Hori
5:42 AM
(Also this is in the Namco Museum DS page)
/dev/urandom 4/25/2018 6:32 AM
i would have written "by the main character of Dig Dug"
6:33 AM
because let's be honest, very few people would actually know who taizo hori is
Deleted User 4/25/2018 6:40 AM
You wrote it?
6:43 AM
Well... maybe write "By Taizo Hori/Dig Dug"
/dev/urandom 4/25/2018 6:43 AM
i said "i would have written"
6:43 AM
i.e. "if i were writing it"
6:43 AM
so i definitely did not
6:43 AM
i don't even have a tcrf account really
6:44 AM
...sorry.
🐮 4/25/2018 7:12 AM
I too don't have a TCRF account
7:12 AM
I sure would like one though
7:12 AM
I was going to ask about it but it slipped my mind entirely until now so thanks for the reminder (edited)
Tata 4/25/2018 7:14 AM
7:14 AM
Got cut off there. In the Mario Party 5 article, under 1.2: E3 Menu, the text doesn’t mention how it says ‘Number of Playes’ instead of ‘Number of Players’. Maybe this is an emulation glitch. Really dunno. I’ve attached the picture I’m talking about.
punk7890 4/25/2018 7:29 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/989104125739646976
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a hidden cheat system in Bee Movie Game (PS2) https://t.co/S3fht3H8ma These can give you money, and unlock certain things. There is a few unknowns still so if anyone has knowledge in this game, try them out and see what they do.
1
7:30 AM
if anyone is knowledgeable about this game, it would be neat to identify the unknowns (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/25/2018 7:34 AM
did gfaqs mention them
punk7890 4/25/2018 7:35 AM
negative
Laenthor 4/25/2018 8:17 AM
I had the DS version, which was confusing. I never got past the first "world" because it was so boring.
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:33 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/989120184253276161 (edited)
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found placeholder logo text in Ridge Racer 64 https://t.co/wUf4mE6bzj This simply prints "OPENING HERE" on screen. This also contains a slightly different "Nintendo Software Technology Corporation" logo as well.
8:33 AM
FMecha 4/25/2018 9:02 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Simple 1500 Vol 52: The Pro Wrestling 2 have leftovers from SmackDown! 2: Know Your Role, given the rather blatant use of SmackDown! 2 timer font (same devs notwithstanding). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U9GFT0NX_Q
ITSMYYARD
Gameplay Highlights - DEATHMATCH! Simple 1500 Vol 52.
9:03 AM
Oh, and that body part pain you see here is the ancestor to one included from Here Comes The Pain onwards.
leilei 4/25/2018 9:04 AM
i wish ihadurca were hidden in smackdown 1 and 2
FMecha 4/25/2018 9:04 AM
Probably this has leftovers from SmackDown! 1, since it was built from that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0DDvIUdVg
davpreec
Simple 1500 Series Vol 022 - The Pro Wrestling - Gameplay (Playsta...
9:07 AM
The way I see things, the lineage of Yuke's WWE games look like this: (excluding Day of Reckoning/Wrestle Kingdom series and the Dreamcast/NAOMI Royal Rumble game, dunno how I put that in the lineage tree) `SmackDown! 1 --- Simple 1500 #22 | Know Your Role --- Simple 1500 #52 | Just Bring It | Shut Your Mouth | Here Comes The Pain --- Rumble Roses | SvR '05 ...` (edited)
leilei 4/25/2018 9:11 AM
all the ps3 ones are a blur to me
9:11 AM
from svr2010 to wwe2k14 at least
9:12 AM
probably arches before svr2010
9:13 AM
and then it starts again from 2k15
9:15 AM
i feel kinda bad for yukes, being stuck to make annual wwe wrestling games and can't fix their bugs or probably can't use their tech to make a new rumble roses for contractual reasons (edited)
FMecha 4/25/2018 9:16 AM
Or Wrestle Kingdom games for those puroresu/NJPW marks...
FMecha 4/25/2018 9:28 AM
Reading Legends of Modding forum, someone confirms there's leftovers indeed http://s15.zetaboards.com/legendsofmodding/single/?p=10018778&t=10056120
Viewing Single Post From: The Virtual Pro Wrestling PSX
we are modding and reprogramming experts of wrestling games
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/25/2018 9:28 AM
https://tcrf.net/Bee_Movie_Game_(PlayStation_2)
Bee Movie Game (PlayStation 2)
Paulweeze71 4/25/2018 9:28 AM
FMecha 4/25/2018 9:29 AM
Perhaps there's a debug menu as well in those Simple 1500 wrasslin' titles, but that's @Athena 悠里マヤ's expertise.
🐮 4/25/2018 10:17 AM
SIMPLE series wooo
10:17 AM
Those games are gems
10:17 AM
It's how we got EARTH DEFENSE FORCE
Revenant 4/25/2018 11:03 AM
and also The Miniskirt Police
11:03 AM
whose development staff included the creator of Hong Kong 97 (edited)
Laenthor 4/25/2018 12:09 PM
Hmm, no Sonic and the Secret Rings nor Black Knight page yet... I think I found some unused dialogue just by using some character select cheats. Some characters can't be played in all stages in S&BK, but when you make them load in, they have 1 default piece of dialogue that doesn't fit anywhere in their levels. I'm gonna have to look into it a bit more
12:10 PM
If the Sonic Colors page has had some dialogue extracted, I bet that the engine is similar to the other wii sonic games.
12:11 PM
So I might be able to find something IF I can find stuff in Colors.
Deleted User 4/25/2018 12:23 PM
Please, register me as "BOMBA".
12:24 PM
I can't register.
12:24 PM
As a result, i have the Wikia and i create own wiki
Laenthor 4/25/2018 12:29 PM
Sorry, I meant to tag @🔪 Mods (edited)
Xkeeper 4/25/2018 12:29 PM
Either or (though it occurs to me that I'm not one)
Deleted User 4/25/2018 12:30 PM
Register me now!
Xkeeper 4/25/2018 12:30 PM
DM me your e-mail address and username
Deleted User 4/25/2018 12:32 PM
My email: autodillerbox@mail.ru
12:32 PM
My username: AutoDiller
12:33 PM
Register me, pls!
Xkeeper 4/25/2018 12:34 PM
Password sent A randomly generated password for AutoDiller has been sent to autodillerbox@mail.ru. It can be changed on the change password page upon logging in.
Deleted User 4/25/2018 12:45 PM
I can't login
12:45 PM
Help me. I'm stuck.
12:45 PM
I was trying this password (generated from email), but it doesn't work
Deleted User 4/25/2018 12:56 PM
oh my god, the amount of stuff unused in this game is mad
12:56 PM
also i have no idea what in the hell map i stumbled into
Paulweeze71 4/25/2018 1:02 PM
Deleted User 4/25/2018 1:09 PM
@Deleted User check your e-mail for another password
Deleted User 4/25/2018 2:00 PM
found the first unused save place that doesn't corrupt the save, though it makes me spawn at a blank space way outside the map rip
Deleted User 4/25/2018 2:46 PM
gonna take a lifetime to document all this
Laenthor 4/25/2018 3:30 PM
Take a bit of time each day to be sure to not get tired of it. Believe me, it will happen.
Hallfiry 4/25/2018 3:44 PM
it seems like I found evidence for a cancelled game by Magic Bytes: The NICE demo I recently posted (and probably other versions aswell) has a banner ad for a game called Al Capone (edited)
3:49 PM
3:49 PM
3:49 PM
there's also an ad for BIING!, which was another one of their games
Deleted User 4/25/2018 3:52 PM
i want a hi-octane burger
Deleted User 4/25/2018 4:20 PM
ow ow ow ow
Deleted User 4/25/2018 4:38 PM
unused sprite? to the left, usual ones at the right
Deleted User 4/25/2018 4:46 PM
seems alternative ones for them too?
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/25/2018 4:49 PM
@FMecha I check it now. and found text "Debug Camera 1P".
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/25/2018 5:07 PM
5:07 PM
I found it.
punk7890 4/25/2018 6:34 PM
nice work
FMecha 4/25/2018 6:47 PM
Obvious Smackdown leftover right there
6:48 PM
Whoever doing SD1 proto better check if that debug menu is also there
punk7890 4/25/2018 7:51 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ how do you set read/write breakpoints in no$psx? Also for some reason, that emulator likes to crash on me when ever a breakpoint is read.
Deleted User 4/25/2018 7:52 PM
@punk7890 press Ctrl+B in the debugger and use this syntax
7:53 PM
[00000000]!?
7:53 PM
! is for write, ? is for read
punk7890 4/25/2018 7:53 PM
huh, weird syntax. Thanks
7:53 PM
you'd think it'd just be read/write
Deleted User 4/25/2018 7:54 PM
see the Help section tho, it tells you all the other options for breakpoints there = 3
7:54 PM
also ^, it's a pretty uncommon syntax tbh
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/25/2018 7:54 PM
@punk7890 If you need break on 0x424240 , Input 80424240 to break. but Input 424240, can't break (and sometimes crash emulator) (edited)
punk7890 4/25/2018 7:55 PM
thing is I had it set to break inside a function and it just crashes on me
Deleted User 4/25/2018 7:55 PM
afaik the emulator handles unexpected input by a error message saying Huh? lol
punk7890 4/25/2018 7:56 PM
7:56 PM
everytime this happens when I hit a break
Deleted User 4/25/2018 7:56 PM
that odd, it never crashed to me on breakpoints BUT has done when searching for a string
7:56 PM
o
8:00 PM
that means the value on that certain direction is executing a opcode that wasn't expected, i think when you pass after a break, it skip it, so if the new address was expecting a change on that break to execute something that could happen
8:01 PM
happened me yesterday when messing with music, i put a break on the direction that sets the volume and the music remained low all the way
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:01 PM
it seems I just have bad luck with ps1 hacking all the time. I remember why I don't do it now
8:02 PM
read breaks work fine
8:02 PM
so far (edited)
8:02 PM
thanks for the help
Deleted User 4/25/2018 8:05 PM
anytime, man! and good luck! x3
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:11 PM
I might be dumb, but is there a way to search for values at all? All I can see is searching for text
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/25/2018 8:13 PM
I use cheat engine. (and ps2dis)
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:13 PM
sounds semi inconvenient
8:13 PM
is there a proper memory range for cheat engine?
Deleted User 4/25/2018 8:18 PM
Im wondering. Is the memory controller ran off the internal battery for Oracle of Seasons? (edited)
8:19 PM
I cannot figure why this cart wont boot
8:19 PM
The connections look fine, the pin contacts are clean, and there appears to be no damage
8:20 PM
Rip. Just realized i wasnt in #deleted-channel
8:25 PM
thaanks for the tip, Athena! :D i also was wondering that
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/25/2018 8:29 PM
no problem
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:37 PM
8:37 PM
8:38 PM
took too long to do, not used to this emulator and it's somewhat lacking features
Laenthor 4/25/2018 8:39 PM
hey @punk7890 how do you keep finding debug menus so quickly? What is your secret technique?
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:41 PM
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/25/2018 8:41 PM
wow nice!
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:42 PM
@Laenthor I wouldn't really know how to explain that. I mostly use a combination of a emulator with debug features + ps2dis
8:42 PM
ps2dis is my baby
Laenthor 4/25/2018 8:42 PM
What does it do exactly?
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:43 PM
It analyzes all functions and function calls / sub functions, grabs memory references, grabs all possible text in the game + allows you to reverse search text and see what function calls them up
8:43 PM
and probably more that i forgot
leilei 4/25/2018 8:43 PM
no$psx's debugging stuff overcomes the lack of silly graphics/sound features (edited)
8:44 PM
pSX used to be the other debugging emulator
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:44 PM
@Laenthor all with a click of a button
Laenthor 4/25/2018 8:44 PM
wow, helpful
leilei 4/25/2018 8:44 PM
all of nocash's emulators have debug stuff
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:45 PM
@Laenthor yes, it saves you many many minutes searching for stuff
8:45 PM
you still need to know some assembly though
Laenthor 4/25/2018 8:45 PM
So you just find the calls and track them back to the uncalled debug functions?
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:46 PM
pretty much
Laenthor 4/25/2018 8:46 PM
heh, I don't know anything about assembly. Looks mindlessly complicated
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:46 PM
if it's uncalled you'd have to figure out how to properly call it though
Laenthor 4/25/2018 8:47 PM
Hmm, well it's a bit more simple than I thought if you can see some of the functions and calls in real time
punk7890 4/25/2018 8:48 PM
it's not in real time which is why you'd have to have a emulator with debug functions as well
Laenthor 4/25/2018 8:48 PM
Meanwhile, I'm messing with snes sound data and player. Just found this in the .rsn archives XD
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/25/2018 8:48 PM
cursed music
Laenthor 4/25/2018 8:48 PM
Quality sample, uses 1 channel and keeps sending info to the ram each loop
8:48 PM
instead of just looping
8:50 PM
Speaking of this 'game': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YVa-Ecp8Eg
Pat the NES Punk
Hong Kong 97 SNES Developer Breaks His Silence - #CUPodcast
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Laenthor 4/25/2018 9:02 PM
And I guess that if you want any snes or famicom soundtrack you can ask me and I'll give
Deleted User 4/25/2018 9:12 PM
http://spc.joshw.info is a good site
Laenthor 4/25/2018 9:14 PM
It is, but I already have more than 1500 rsn files on my computer and I can save people the trouble of downloading and recording every soundtrack 1 by 1
9:14 PM
Also BS zelda, man XD
FMecha 4/25/2018 10:15 PM
Apparently Simple 1500: The Pro Wrestling came out first before SmackDown 1.
10:15 PM
So probably the debug menu must be in SD1 (either final or proto) and there's leftovers from TPW in SD1 as well (and vice versa)
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/25/2018 11:41 PM
Probably thisone is related also: https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%96%B0%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E9%97%98%E9%AD%82%E7%83%88%E4%BC%9D
%E6%96%B0%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B9%E3...
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/25/2018 11:42 PM
%
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/25/2018 11:42 PM
This is "Shin nihon pro wrestling: Toukon Retsuden", developed by Yuke's (edited)
Deleted User 4/25/2018 11:56 PM
lol
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/26/2018 12:27 AM
I think TPW is base on Toukon Retsuden 3 (Released in 1998-03-26).
punk7890 4/26/2018 1:56 AM
1:56 AM
too much debug
1:57 AM
it's really odd how much debug content can be left in a game
Neko May 4/26/2018 1:59 AM
Sometimes they just don't bother removing any of it.
EdTheNerd 4/26/2018 1:59 AM
My fave leftovers are the leds and switches used on PSP tools
1:59 AM
Nobody bothers commenting it out
Neko May 4/26/2018 1:59 AM
If they don't think ahead and put it in a define, then it's less work (less cost) to just leave it in instead of commenting it all out.
EdTheNerd 4/26/2018 2:00 AM
I love tossing umds in the debugger and seeing what's left on those toggles
2:00 AM
Never tried hooking up the foot-sw input. I'd imagine it was largely unused
FMecha 4/26/2018 5:34 AM
So the lineage looks like this:
5:34 AM
`Toukon Retsuden 3 | | SmackDown! 1 --- Simple 1500 #22 | Know Your Role --- Simple 1500 #52 | Just Bring It | Shut Your Mouth | Here Comes The Pain --- Rumble Roses | SvR '05 ...` (edited)
punk7890 4/26/2018 7:45 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/989470243151007745
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found large amount of debug material in Legaia 2: Duel Saga (PS2). Too much here to document. I left the codes / information on my TCRF user page if anyone would like to document or play around with them. https://t.co/M8f76asm7Q This is basica...
7:45 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/26/2018 7:54 AM
man punk im not sure if to feel happy or sad that you find them in so many obscure games no ones heard of
punk7890 4/26/2018 7:55 AM
a debug menu is a debug menu
7:56 AM
I've covered some more mainstream games before
7:56 AM
I mostly just go for either early ps2 games, or developers who have had debug stuff in their past games
7:58 AM
some good examples: https://tcrf.net/Category:Games_developed_by_Alfa_System https://tcrf.net/Category:Games_developed_by_Black_Ops_Entertainment https://tcrf.net/Category:Games_developed_by_Gust
Category:Games developed by Alfa System
Category:Games developed by Black Ops Entertainment
Category:Games developed by Gust
7:59 AM
sometimes I randomly pick a game like that I/O game
7:59 AM
wasn't expecting to find anything but ended up finding a debug menu + the same debug menu in one of their later games
FMecha 4/26/2018 8:05 AM
Going to investigate build dates in Exciting Pro Wrestling (NTSC-J SmackDown 1) and Simple 1500 The Pro Wrestling now
FMecha 4/26/2018 8:20 AM
Strangely, the Japanese version uses the proto title holders
8:20 AM
8:25 AM
Can't seem to find the build date in Japanese version
Stewie1.0 4/26/2018 8:25 AM
Oh there was actually one time I found a broken Melee at an Arcade
FMecha 4/26/2018 8:25 AM
I wonder where are the build dates in SD1 stored?
Stewie1.0 4/26/2018 8:26 AM
8:27 AM
Only Falco was playable, no music, and some modes u couldn't play
FMecha 4/26/2018 8:28 AM
Nvm, found it, you have to be in title screen
8:29 AM
`May 22 2000 20:22:31`
8:29 AM
So it's the newest build.
FMecha 4/26/2018 8:36 AM
And no build date whatsoever in TPW
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/26/2018 8:36 AM
I found camera debug in Toukon Retsuden 3 https://tcrf.net/Toukon_Retsuden_3
Toukon Retsuden 3
FMecha 4/26/2018 8:48 AM
Name list in TPW debug menu: `Stone Cold Steve Austin The Undertaker The Rock Big Show Ken Shamrock Triple H Val Venis Big Bossman Mr.McMahon Road Dogg Hardcore Holly Christian Godfather D'Lo Brown Sexual Chocolate Matt Hardy Jeff Hardy Chris Jericho Jeff Jarrett Bah Bah Ray Dudley Shane McMahon Paul Bearer Steve Blackman Bradshaw D-Von Dudley Shawn Stasiak(Meat) Prince Albert Patterson Jackreen Stephany McMahon Stone Cold Steve Austin2 The Rock2 Stevie Richards Blue Meanie`
8:49 AM
Who is Jackreen?
Netscape Navigator 4/26/2018 8:51 AM
It could be an incredibly botched rendering of Jacqueline
FMecha 4/26/2018 8:53 AM
I see there's typos, including Viscere (Viscera)
Netscape Navigator 4/26/2018 8:57 AM
bah bah instead of buh buh ray
Fadores 4/26/2018 1:49 PM
Hey! Has anyone checked out the Spyro 3 speedrun livestream Insomniac did? It was pretty cool, they actually confirmed a few things, such as the unused area in Dino Mines while they weren’t totally sure but it was likely supposed to be a Agent 9 QuickDraw minigame, and there was an unused tiger enemy in an early screenshot of Bamboo Terrace
Deleted User 4/26/2018 2:23 PM
when will tcrf be update to support last tls protocol?
Revenant 4/26/2018 2:27 PM
likely when the server is updated to support an up-to-date version of mediawiki
GerbilSoft 4/26/2018 2:28 PM
it's not like tcrf's used for any sensitive information
2:28 PM
so a TLS upgrade isn't super urgent
Xkeeper 4/26/2018 4:26 PM
hi. we are actually going to downgrade tcrf to ssl 2.0
4:26 PM
for compatibility with more devices
4:26 PM
thank youf or your understanding
Deleted User 4/26/2018 4:38 PM
jyes
GerbilSoft 4/26/2018 4:42 PM
oh good, i can now browse tcrf on Windows 3.1 with Netscape 4
4:42 PM
..or was netscape 4 32-bit only i don't remember
Revenant 4/26/2018 4:46 PM
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/warajevo/Story.html
4:47 PM
read about a zx spectrum emulator that was developed right in the middle of the bosnian war
Nex 4/26/2018 4:54 PM
respect
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Getlucky12341 4/26/2018 6:00 PM
a game with unused costume had an update which added another unused costume, when I add it to a page, should I specify it was added in an update?
6:01 PM
it's a mobile game that doesn't have version numbers
6:01 PM
it just updates every week
divingkxt 4/26/2018 9:42 PM
Here's a weird thing about TCRF.
9:43 PM
Of all the 8-bit computers on the site, guess which one has the most documentation?
9:43 PM
And it wasn't even big in the US.
leilei 4/26/2018 9:45 PM
zx spectrum?
divingkxt 4/26/2018 9:46 PM
Yes.
leilei 4/26/2018 9:46 PM
being american i've never seen a speccy in real life
divingkxt 4/26/2018 9:47 PM
A huge reason being that, unlike the C64, most games are in regular ASCII.
leilei 4/26/2018 9:47 PM
tape loading, ultimate play the game what the H*CK are those
divingkxt 4/26/2018 9:47 PM
And no special disk reader like Ciderpress is required.
9:47 PM
Especially funny is that of all of the ZX Spectrum games we do have, none of them are from Ultimate.
9:47 PM
Not even Jetpac.
leilei 4/26/2018 9:47 PM
and why is a legs man and a tophat guy jumping into toilets a definitive 80s games mascot (edited)
divingkxt 4/26/2018 9:49 PM
Because British kids didn't have arcades close to them.
9:50 PM
Although arguably the same reason Blueprint exists too.
leilei 4/26/2018 9:50 PM
and if they had arcades it's probably bongo
divingkxt 4/26/2018 10:00 PM
@Revenant It's one thing to code an emulator, but another to code it during wartime.
Laenthor 4/26/2018 10:01 PM
That's either unbreakable dedication or not caring at all for human lives...
10:02 PM
Guess it was a way to pass the time for the dev(s)
Revenant 4/26/2018 10:04 PM
you're not a real emulator developer if you've never had to sneak down a river to borrow pirated spectrum tapes without getting shot by snipers
divingkxt 4/26/2018 10:04 PM
Well, better tell that to the Dolphin devs.
Laenthor 4/26/2018 10:08 PM
"Okay guys, we gotta move for a... company meeting vacation..."
GerbilSoft 4/26/2018 10:08 PM
what if the snipers were hired by Nintendo
leilei 4/26/2018 10:08 PM
could they radio the tapes over
10:09 PM
for some wartime digital overtheair piracy
GerbilSoft 4/26/2018 10:09 PM
with enough error correction, sure
cuba200611 4/26/2018 11:59 PM
Speaking of Blueprint, it was an early game developed by the Stamper brothers, who'd later found Ultimate and after that, Rare...
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/27/2018 12:06 AM
yrs time to.get droqnrd
MysticSageJosh 4/27/2018 12:19 AM
Chromaryu you're drunk
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/27/2018 12:29 AM
corrupted
MysticSageJosh 4/27/2018 12:31 AM
you come with a version of bizhawk
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/27/2018 6:38 AM
o I fixed issue with SSF
Andreelikes 4/27/2018 8:25 AM
https://youtu.be/VgfOy9MycrU?t=730 Is that supposed to be yoshi's egg?
おもしろ コメ付き チャンネル
【コメ付き】スーパーマリオアドバンス4 チート...
8:26 AM
The sound effects are included. And they are from Yoshi's Island. (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/27/2018 10:27 AM
10:28 AM
near pixel perfect picture
Deleted User 4/27/2018 10:51 AM
looks like taito's darius space shooter
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/27/2018 10:51 AM
Thunder Force V Stage 3 (edited)
Deleted User 4/27/2018 10:52 AM
also what mario game is that? D:
10:52 AM
o nice! coincidence i'm just downloading the game :D
10:53 AM
the psx one tho, a friend showed me the ost and is amazing <3
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/27/2018 10:55 AM
yeah, Thunder Force V has nice BGM. I love "Legendary Wings"
Deleted User 4/27/2018 10:56 AM
rock n slap best
10:56 AM
also o, that seems the gba's mario advance ^
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/27/2018 11:03 AM
That title is "Intentionally glitched Super Mario Advance 4".
Deleted User 4/27/2018 11:04 AM
o thanks! :D
Incineroar 4/27/2018 11:23 AM
I love when he gets to the mushroom house
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 11:26 AM
Deleted User 4/27/2018 11:31 AM
much room house
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 11:32 AM
Not much room if the mush room can't fit in the house
Deleted User 4/27/2018 11:39 AM
shrink shroom and expand dong
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 11:41 AM
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Deleted User 4/27/2018 2:26 PM
North Korea is gone. It is now just Korea.
2:27 PM
What an incredible day, all those people who suffered. They are now free.
2:28 PM
The only true threat to the world, is gone.
Revenant 4/27/2018 2:33 PM
(note: did not actually happen)
2:34 PM
also please avoid using this server for political discussion
Deleted User 4/27/2018 2:35 PM
Okay l i b e r a l
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Revenant 4/27/2018 2:38 PM
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Deleted User 4/27/2018 2:38 PM
It just made me so happy to hear I felt it needed to be shared to many.
Hiccup 4/27/2018 2:42 PM
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-04-27-meet-the-man-who-smuggled-the-demoscene-into-super-mario-64 (edited)
Tales from inside 90s Nintendo - from the man who made Mario's face
In a history that's coming up on the 130 year mark, there have been many fascinating eras of Nintendo - the Yokoi years, those formative Famicom years and t…
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 2:44 PM
must read
Kelton 4/27/2018 2:54 PM
`Identified a Linux system; setting up the appropriate backend. Found a Tegra with Device ID: b'@\x01\x00\x0e\x00\x00\x00\x00\xc3\xb6)d\x01\x10\x10b' Setting ourselves up to smash the stack... Uploading payload... Smashing the stack... The USB device stopped responding-- sure smells like we've smashed its stack. :) Launch complete! ➜ fusee-launcher-master`
2:54 PM
easy hardmod cant stop me
Revenant 4/27/2018 3:13 PM
Deleted User 4/27/2018 3:21 PM
demoscene into sm64
3:21 PM
you hooked me
Deleted User 4/27/2018 3:44 PM
never knew he was into the amiga scene and was so young =o that's nice! :D
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 4/27/2018 6:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT9Tth2bl5o
SnortOfTheSnorth
Twilight Princess Beta Scrapped Dungeon Footage
Nex 4/27/2018 6:41 PM
beta
6:41 PM
TRIGGERED
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 6:43 PM
6:43 PM
Nex, you ARE a beta
Nex 4/27/2018 6:43 PM
omg
6:44 PM
kk
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 6:44 PM
6:44 PM
Me irl
Nex 4/27/2018 6:44 PM
Lmfao
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 6:44 PM
Will never get old
Nex 4/27/2018 6:45 PM
yeepp
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 6:46 PM
already old
Nex 4/27/2018 6:47 PM
no u
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 6:47 PM
6:49 PM
"LeMmE...tElL...yOu...BoUt...BeTaZ...SoNnY...bOy...."
ゲームボーイ64 4/27/2018 6:53 PM
paul
6:53 PM
You’re drunk
6:54 PM
go home
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 6:57 PM
But...but....
6:58 PM
I'm already home
ゲームボーイ64 4/27/2018 6:58 PM
get off the internet
6:58 PM
It’s time for your nap
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 6:59 PM
But...but...
ゲームボーイ64 4/27/2018 6:59 PM
no butts
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Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 6:59 PM
I already napped
ゲームボーイ64 4/27/2018 6:59 PM
or buts
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Patapon Fanatic #3 4/27/2018 7:23 PM
the people of my twitter demand that i post patapon 1 stuff
7:24 PM
making video now
LuigiBlood 4/27/2018 7:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Tddv8Uv.png
7:37 PM
Early US IPL ROM.
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 7:57 PM
Neko May 4/27/2018 8:27 PM
Wait, the N64 had a BIOS?
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 8:30 PM
64DD
Neko May 4/27/2018 8:36 PM
Ah, okay.
Deleted User 4/27/2018 9:44 PM
seems some guy found two fully functional unused swords on the nes zelda!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B7Bb92psHs :D
Legendary
The Legend of Zelda Game Genie New Swords
9:45 PM
this isn't on tcrf
9:46 PM
i hope someone can research on this x3
leilei 4/27/2018 9:52 PM
new swords or glitched swords?
Laenthor 4/27/2018 9:53 PM
Looks like a color palette limit thing
Revenant 4/27/2018 9:56 PM
the way this guy pronounces "sword" is fucking me up
Deleted User 4/27/2018 9:59 PM
the sword behaves differently tho
10:00 PM
as he points out, the red "tempered" sword is a lot weaker than the first one you get
10:00 PM
i don't thing it is a color palette thing as it is stored in the save
Revenant 4/27/2018 10:01 PM
i'm willing to believe it's just reading past the end of some array(s) and getting bogus palette/damage/etc info
3
Deleted User 4/27/2018 10:01 PM
actually that sounds likely too
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 10:02 PM
Interesting to see the effect but not likely to be stripped out content
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 10:02 PM
hey I got a quick question
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 10:02 PM
❔
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 10:02 PM
Deleted User 4/27/2018 10:03 PM
i can't prove nor deny anything tho
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 10:03 PM
the 3 goats in the middle
10:03 PM
they are unused costumes
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 10:03 PM
Deleted User 4/27/2018 10:03 PM
goats are friends
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 10:03 PM
Not familiar with that game
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 10:03 PM
If I added it to ctrf that image wouldn't work right?
10:04 PM
it would need to be the full screen
old acc! inactive 4/27/2018 10:04 PM
so notsobot is back
10:04 PM
hooray
Deleted User 4/27/2018 10:04 PM
that's a really damaging profile pic to see, Stomped Goomba
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 10:05 PM
i'm reading the rules for images and it says it needs to be the full screen
10:06 PM
moving this to #help my bad
Deleted User 4/27/2018 10:06 PM
i'd request you to change it to a more respectful, wholesome one tbh (edited)
10:07 PM
not that i have the right to ask to, i haven't BUT i'm really shocked with that kind of stuff
10:10 PM
i'm sorry
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/27/2018 10:23 PM
x!avatar @old acc! inactive
Deleted User 4/27/2018 10:25 PM
why
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/27/2018 10:28 PM
we never learned what game that was
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 10:34 PM
divingkxt 4/27/2018 10:39 PM
@Getlucky12341 What game did you screenshot those goats from?
10:39 PM
Kind of important, because none of us have a clue what it is.
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 10:39 PM
oh i'm sorry
10:39 PM
Trailer Park Boys greasy money
10:40 PM
Ehm recently helped me set up a page for it
divingkxt 4/27/2018 10:40 PM
Ah.
10:40 PM
Yeah, we usually prefer either graphics rips or full screenshots.
10:40 PM
Unless it's a thumbnail for the subpages template, please stick to one of those two.
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 10:41 PM
it's just that if I did a full screenshot, it would be very hard to see the goat costumes
divingkxt 4/27/2018 10:42 PM
I'm not sure what's preventing a graphic rip though.
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 10:43 PM
because that goat is already a character
10:43 PM
the costume is just a copy paste
10:46 PM
if it wasn't I would just do a graphic rip
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/27/2018 10:47 PM
...so is it an extra costume or is it a sprite replace?
Paulweeze71 4/27/2018 10:48 PM
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 10:49 PM
There's a character in the game who's just a goat, and the 3 characters have costumes that make them look like that goat
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/27/2018 10:50 PM
oh okay
Getlucky12341 4/27/2018 11:12 PM
https://tcrf.net/Trailer_Park_Boys:_Greasy_Money
Trailer Park Boys: Greasy Money
11:12 PM
how's the formatting on this?
divingkxt 4/27/2018 11:37 PM
Looking good.
Video 4/27/2018 11:37 PM
anyone up for some fortnite digging?
11:38 PM
i got a head start with some unused cinematics
Smoke 4/27/2018 11:39 PM
nope
Video 4/27/2018 11:39 PM
lame
punk7890 4/27/2018 11:57 PM
11:57 PM
lol
11:57 PM
I am guessing that was suppose to be credited to Ehm?
Revenant 4/27/2018 11:58 PM
yes
divingkxt 4/27/2018 11:58 PM
Yep, but they didn't copy and paste correctly.
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/27/2018 11:58 PM
diduknowehm
Revenant 4/27/2018 11:58 PM
https://tcrf.net/User:EHMV
User:EHMV
leilei 4/27/2018 11:58 PM
their v key is sticky indeed
punk7890 4/27/2018 11:58 PM
sasuga
Revenant 4/27/2018 11:58 PM
haha they probably did just hit ctrl+v and then hit v a second time didn't they
11:58 PM
jesus
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/27/2018 11:58 PM
11:58 PM
nice
punk7890 4/27/2018 11:59 PM
what video was it from
divingkxt 4/28/2018 12:00 AM
Their newest.
punk7890 4/28/2018 12:01 AM
oh the lego one
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/28/2018 12:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE
12:06 AM
12:06 AM
hmm
12:07 AM
hmmmmmm
Revenant 4/28/2018 12:07 AM
RIP
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 12:08 AM
why though
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/28/2018 12:08 AM
idk
12:08 AM
sony music entertaiment doesnt like fun
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 12:08 AM
what was the song originally
divingkxt 4/28/2018 12:08 AM
And also because it samples a song owned by SME.
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 12:08 AM
o
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/28/2018 12:09 AM
true
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 12:09 AM
well, sme will claim just about anything
divingkxt 4/28/2018 12:09 AM
It was a song that used a slowed down "It's Your Move" by Diana Ross as its basis.
12:10 AM
MACINTOSH PLUS - リサフランク420 originally
12:10 AM
Lisa Frank 420 (edited)
12:10 AM
It's pretty much the quintessential vaporwave song.
12:11 AM
VS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsZ55muE4O0
Giane Santos
diana ross it´s your move
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 12:11 AM
i mean though, is slowing it down until you don't know what it is originally isn't enough?
divingkxt 4/28/2018 12:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4gl-FX2RvI
Sun Levi
MACINTOSH PLUS - リサフランク420 / 現代のコンピュー ...
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 12:12 AM
they could have just claimed it and not taken it down and been done with it
12:12 AM
am I wrong?
divingkxt 4/28/2018 12:13 AM
Well...
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/28/2018 12:13 AM
divingkxt 4/28/2018 12:13 AM
You have to keep in mind that Sony Music Entertainment is VERY touchy about copyright.
12:13 AM
Much like every other Japanese music company.
leilei 4/28/2018 12:14 AM
victor shakes fist
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 12:14 AM
no kidding
12:14 AM
hell, japanese movie companies are touchy about copyright as well
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/28/2018 12:14 AM
cant wait for the rest of the videos to be taken down
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 12:24 AM
How can I make pages?
12:30 AM
or can somebody help me how can I start writing pages?
divingkxt 4/28/2018 12:39 AM
You have to search the name of the game you want to add.
12:39 AM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=INSERT_GAME_NAME_HERE&action=edit&redlink=1
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 12:39 AM
I did it
Neko May 4/28/2018 12:40 AM
The first rule of YouTube copyright claims is "Fuck You". (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 12:40 AM
https://tcrf.net/Help:Contents/Creating_Articles I'll follow this
Creating Articles
12:40 AM
xd
Neko May 4/28/2018 12:40 AM
There are no further rules.
divingkxt 4/28/2018 12:41 AM
Keiretsu, Chaebol, and their really enigmatic relationships.
Laenthor 4/28/2018 12:41 AM
Rules on youtube copyright? Haha, good meme.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 12:42 AM
@divingkxt how can I upload title screen for game?
12:43 AM
I got bmp image, convert to png, then optipng
12:43 AM
right?
leilei 4/28/2018 12:45 AM
if it's a nes game you've got to make sure you've got the right palette too
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 12:45 AM
this is not nes
leilei 4/28/2018 12:45 AM
okay
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 12:54 AM
Ugh Time to upload mass images
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 1:11 AM
ffs
1:11 AM
I forgot categorizing
TommyD 4/28/2018 1:12 AM
Is there anything in existence that can freeze state or snes game and dump memory
1:13 AM
Not in an emulator
1:13 AM
I need a state of an xband prior to ring
1:13 AM
And after a ring
divingkxt 4/28/2018 1:14 AM
SNES Game Saver Plus
1:14 AM
is the closest I can find.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 1:14 AM
how can I put hidden text file in game CD?
divingkxt 4/28/2018 1:14 AM
Lacking that, you'll need to find a serial port debugger and connect it to a terminal.
1:15 AM
<pre>TEXT</pre>
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 1:15 AM
thanks
1:16 AM
1:16 AM
looks like this?
1:16 AM
with <pre> tag
1:16 AM
aaaaa this is spoiler
divingkxt 4/28/2018 1:17 AM
Yes.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 1:17 AM
Uhhh
1:17 AM
I found file that contains real name
1:17 AM
should I avoid?
divingkxt 4/28/2018 1:20 AM
Nah.
Neko May 4/28/2018 1:38 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person]: By the way, thank you for your contributions. They are valued greatly. :3
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 1:38 AM
1:38 AM
even through I want to upload video
1:39 AM
there is file called TFV_OP.CPK
1:39 AM
can be easily converted to avi
Neko May 4/28/2018 1:39 AM
Video on TCRF is provided by YouTube.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 1:39 AM
yeah I should upload on it
1:40 AM
BUT
1:40 AM
QUALITY SUCKS
Neko May 4/28/2018 1:40 AM
You can mark the video "Unlisted" and simply embed it on TCRF
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 1:40 AM
true
1:44 AM
`.\TFV_OP.CPK: SEGA Saturn Cinepak, 320x174(24), Monaural 16bits 44100Hz, 15fps, 32.83sec`
1:44 AM
lol
Neko May 4/28/2018 1:45 AM
Heh
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 1:46 AM
Hmm
1:47 AM
Upload to YT makes some thing
1:47 AM
Need expand then
1:54 AM
`The end is now here.`
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/28/2018 1:57 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] nice find!
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 1:58 AM
1:58 AM
More to come really
1:58 AM
I'm lazy to beat game
punk7890 4/28/2018 1:58 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/990107867570098176
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a small debug display in Bomberman Land 2 (PS2) https://t.co/aX89gW70oH This simply puts a system resource meter at the top of the screen.
1:58 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/28/2018 1:59 AM
nice!
punk7890 4/28/2018 1:59 AM
there's a map select as well but it's borked
2:00 AM
these Racjin games seem to have left over debug stuff that generally doesn't work properly anymore
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 2:12 AM
Also I am Japanese
2:12 AM
tag me if you need help with Japanese :p
punk7890 4/28/2018 2:12 AM
2:14 AM
If you want to translate something, there's some stuff here. https://tcrf.net/Ys_VIII:_Lacrimosa_of_Dana_(Windows)#tes_UI I haven't bothered just because there's a bit too much
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana (Windows)
leilei 4/28/2018 2:14 AM
i think i've seen you before somewhere
2:14 AM
github maybe
2:14 AM
probably on around libxmp
2:20 AM
the common interest of digging into videogames makes this a small world
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 2:26 AM
iiit’s a small world aafter all
leilei 4/28/2018 2:27 AM
yep, replied on my issue where libxmp wasn't behaving well with my old .mod files because libxmp was assuming a paula compatibility mode of some kind where it shouldn't (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/28/2018 2:58 AM
I found invisible debug menu in Ginga Ojousama Densetsu Yuna: Final Edition. https://tcrf.net/Ginga_Ojousama_Densetsu_Yuna:_Final_Edition
Ginga Ojousama Densetsu Yuna: Final Edition
divingkxt 4/28/2018 2:58 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ Where's the code?
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/28/2018 2:59 AM
oh I forget it. and post now.
2:59 AM
Thank you.
divingkxt 4/28/2018 2:59 AM
You're welcome.
goat 4/28/2018 3:06 AM
character 3 is now in slay the spire
3:06 AM
which means all crowbot assets are unused (edited)
3:08 AM
https://i.redd.it/8vd6tbqdo1h01.png rip lil buddy
leilei 4/28/2018 3:09 AM
512x512 sprites with lots of dead space makes my inner tech artist cry
3:10 AM
especially now that you've got a bunch of unused ones (edited)
goat 4/28/2018 3:11 AM
crowbot was never used and never playable and does not have animations. i think that might be its only sprite, so it's got a good reason to be unwieldy
3:12 AM
3:12 AM
i don't know if their other sprites are based on other games' sprites but this particular one is super obvious and it is kind of funny
punk7890 4/28/2018 3:24 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice work
3:25 AM
I've found some invisible debug menus before as well heh. Sometimes they point to the wrong print function and need to be repointed to another one. Did you try that?
3:26 AM
Gungrave's debug menu was linked to the wrong print function. Pointing it to another one worked.
3:26 AM
it's possible it's not in the game anymore though
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/28/2018 3:35 AM
I check it, but These has not referenced debug text in menu function.
3:36 AM
only address table.
LarryLemmy 4/28/2018 5:25 AM
Ed Balls
5:25 AM
EdTheNerd 4/28/2018 5:29 AM
I approve
FMecha 4/28/2018 5:35 AM
So I made this and need your input on inclusion criteria for this https://tcrf.net/Template:Formula_One_series (edited)
Template:Formula One series
5:36 AM
I've set a rule so that only games with FIA license and not part of it's own series (so no MicroProse's Grand Prix games) be in it, but any other improvenents? I've holding off adding F1 Pole Position 64 for this reason
5:37 AM
As an example the V-System F1 Grand Prix games could be there, but Tail to Nose (same devs, no FIA license) don't belong there (edited)
5:41 AM
This can be used as a reference, but be sure to filter out unlicensed games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Formula_One_games
Template:Formula One games
Initial visibility To set the template's initial visibility, the |state= parameter may be used: |state=collapsed: {{Formula One games|state=collapsed}} to show the template collapsed, i.e., hidden apart from its title bar |state=expanded: {{Formu...
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 7:13 AM
https://twitter.com/naehrwert/status/990042617307021312?s=19
naehrwert (@naehrwert)
coming soon to a switch near you
Likes
303
7:13 AM
7:13 AM
yep I think this is it
Deleted User 4/28/2018 7:40 AM
ooh
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 10:15 AM
o
10:20 AM
I found font file
10:21 AM
on game disk
10:21 AM
lol
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 10:23 AM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 10:28 AM
how can I put it in to tcrf (edited)
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 10:29 AM
#account-requests
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 10:35 AM
@Paulweeze71 have account :p
10:35 AM
https://tcrf.net/Thunder_Force_V_(Sega_Saturn)
Thunder Force V (Sega Saturn)
Wumbo 4/28/2018 11:11 AM
Just curious
11:11 AM
Why was account creation disabled?
11:11 AM
Spam? Vandalism?
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 11:19 AM
No
11:19 AM
Captchas are out of date
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 11:21 AM
Fix soon? (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 4/28/2018 11:30 AM
I dunno, I don’t run the site
Kelton 4/28/2018 12:28 PM
I would really, really, really, really, really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart if someone could link me a tutorial for setting up Debian on Switch if there is one
Deleted User 4/28/2018 1:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obA9MI6YmJ0
Thekempy
Uncharted 4 Cut Content: Manor Sword Fight
1:10 PM
If it interests anyone.
z20kdc 4/28/2018 1:32 PM
RedBees: waaaayyy too early days last I heard
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/28/2018 2:18 PM
https://tcrf.net/Bee_Movie_Game_(PlayStation_2)
Bee Movie Game (PlayStation 2)
1
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 2:19 PM
1
z20kdc 4/28/2018 2:30 PM
developer: "Beenox"
2:30 PM
...what
Dezent 4/28/2018 2:36 PM
Sounds like a stingy developer
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/28/2018 2:37 PM
booooo
Dezent 4/28/2018 2:37 PM
:<
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/28/2018 2:37 PM
jk
2:38 PM
z20kdc 4/28/2018 2:49 PM
At least it's not Catacombs, they scratch your hair up. (...as far as I know no such game developer exists) (edited)
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 2:53 PM
hi
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/28/2018 2:53 PM
hoi
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 2:54 PM
i have an edit to make to the dr mario 64 page
2:54 PM
should i make an account or just say here?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/28/2018 2:56 PM
well registrations are disabled for the time being, but you can request an account in #account-requests
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 2:56 PM
yeah, thats why i came here
2:58 PM
so, ping mods and ask?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 4/28/2018 2:58 PM
ja
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 2:58 PM
kk
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 2:59 PM
Ja mon
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 2:59 PM
thanks
3:03 PM
ok, change made
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 3:04 PM
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 3:05 PM
i feel like 'iQue' should be changed to 'Chinese S', or 'iQue Player'
divingkxt 4/28/2018 3:05 PM
iQue Player.
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 3:05 PM
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 3:05 PM
in terms of 'iQue version'
3:06 PM
'Chinese S version' or 'iQue Player version'
divingkxt 4/28/2018 3:06 PM
https://tcrf.net/Category:IQue_Player_games
Category:IQue Player games
3:06 PM
That's what the category is already.
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 3:06 PM
oh, ok
3:07 PM
majoras mask and the chinese t version of oot need to be added to that
3:09 PM
ique majoras mask is really cool actually, cos the box art and all the manuals are on ique's cds, but the game itself isnt
divingkxt 4/28/2018 3:38 PM
I know one of the iQue CDs has a hidden GBA ROM though.
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 3:38 PM
indeed
3:38 PM
it still needs proper datamining/documentation imho
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 3:46 PM
on the oot page, is it worth mentioning that the disk tag was not only fully translated for ique oot, but that it's super easy to access by modifying the save file?
divingkxt 4/28/2018 3:46 PM
I guess.
3:47 PM
It's especially weird since the 64DD was never released in China.
3:47 PM
Although I think they may have hacked the ROM to translate it, personally
Jhynjhiruu 4/28/2018 3:47 PM
we think that the translators were probably just given a list of all the text in the game
3:47 PM
ique?
3:48 PM
no, nintendo made a slightly updated version of the n64 sdk and gave the source code to ique
3:48 PM
or something close to that
3:49 PM
the sdk actually leaked online
3:49 PM
a team also figured out the decryption keys for all the games and released those, too
3:49 PM
though, n64 emulators need to be updated a little to be able to run them, and saving is completely different to the n64 (edited)
Deleted User 4/28/2018 3:53 PM
Hey, I want to make a page for all versions of Shrek SuperSlam, but currently the only page that exists is for the PS2
3:53 PM
Should I edit this page, or make a new one and redirect the old one?
divingkxt 4/28/2018 3:54 PM
Er...
3:54 PM
Is there anything that can be found in all versions.
3:55 PM
That's important to determine before making a page for all versions.
Deleted User 4/28/2018 3:55 PM
Yeah, I'm getting screenshots and writing it all up now
divingkxt 4/28/2018 3:55 PM
What's been found so far?
Deleted User 4/28/2018 3:55 PM
Debug levels mostly
3:55 PM
A few unused textures hinting at extra stages and characters
Hiccup 4/28/2018 3:59 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/answers/comments/88z6gy/have_any_games_given_any_kind_of_shoutout_to_the/
Have any games given any kind of shout-out to The Cutting Room Flo...
Basically this would involve a)Leaving unused content in the game on purpose and b)something containing a string along the lines of "Hi TCRF" To...
divingkxt 4/28/2018 3:59 PM
We usually make a page for the version that was hacked through first.
4:00 PM
Then, over time, people confirm if most, if not all, of the things found are found in other versions.
4:00 PM
If you've already confirmed that the data is in all versions, then hats off to you.
4:00 PM
Make that page for all versions.
Deleted User 4/28/2018 4:00 PM
I've 100% confirmed it's in Gamecube and Windows
divingkxt 4/28/2018 4:00 PM
And merge with the PS2 page if needed.
Deleted User 4/28/2018 4:01 PM
The Xbox and PS2 are basically identical (the PS2 one exclusively has the ROM that's currently mentioned on the page), so I'd be surprised if they didn't (edited)
divingkxt 4/28/2018 4:07 PM
The joys of cross-platform development.
4:07 PM
Really hit its peak in the early to mid 2000's.
divingkxt 4/28/2018 5:01 PM
https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/security-software/jon-martindale/denuvo-anti-tamper-drops-the-ball-reveals-hidden-developer-messages/
Jon Martindale
Denuvo anti-tamper drops the ball, reveals hidden developer messag...
The Denuvo anti-tamper software company has taken another hit to its reputation over the weekend, wh
Deleted User 4/28/2018 5:01 PM
I've made the new page and left the PS2 one as it is for now, is this alright?
5:02 PM
https://tcrf.net/Shrek_Super_Slam
Shrek Super Slam
Nex 4/28/2018 5:04 PM
best game in existence
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 5:04 PM
You sure bout that Oblivion boi?
Nex 4/28/2018 5:55 PM
yes
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 5:56 PM
Nex 4/28/2018 5:56 PM
now shut up, get to your local game store and grab a copy of skyrim VR
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 5:56 PM
Too late
Nex 4/28/2018 5:56 PM
there are no excuses, only executions if you don't
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 5:56 PM
I remember falling through the floor in VR...
Nex 4/28/2018 5:56 PM
lmao
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 8:34 PM
ah fuck new DRMs?
8:35 PM
also I found ASCII8x8.FNT on Thunder Force V SS
8:35 PM
lol
punk7890 4/28/2018 9:09 PM
hi
Paulweeze71 4/28/2018 9:10 PM
divingkxt 4/28/2018 9:11 PM
https://tcrf.net/Starglider_(Atari_ST)
Starglider (Atari ST)
9:11 PM
"Polygon draw subroutine (yea yea, we`ve all heard the dead parrot joke)"
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 9:12 PM
lol
cuba200611 4/28/2018 9:13 PM
Monty Python refernce, I see.
leilei 4/28/2018 9:22 PM
i'd like to point out these polygon puns are edgey and per verted (edited)
9:25 PM
rides a quad and gets ngon out of here
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 9:53 PM
9:53 PM
dev message hidden on last boss
9:54 PM
a lot of typo, really
leilei 4/28/2018 9:54 PM
gotton? dotton? :S
9:55 PM
i like almost unreadable small font messages
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 9:57 PM
Present by Tec(h)noSoft. You've gott(o|e)n it. nice try, we are looking forward to your next charenge(???)... have a nice day.
leilei 4/28/2018 9:57 PM
challenge
punk7890 4/28/2018 9:57 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/990409652348190720
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Aria The Natural: ~Tooi Yume no Mirage~ (PS2) https://t.co/vFMfjs6VRJ This has the same debug menu as the second game. Contains images viewers, sfx test, character sprite viewers and more. This has placeholder graphics fo...
9:57 PM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 9:57 PM
@leilei but it says charenge on it (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/28/2018 9:58 PM
I found debug menu in Hoshi no Oka Gakuen Monogatari: Gakuensai https://tcrf.net/Hoshi_no_Oka_Gakuen_Monogatari:_Gakuensai
Hoshi no Oka Gakuen Monogatari: Gakuensai
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 9:58 PM
anyway uploading to tcrf
punk7890 4/28/2018 9:59 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/28/2018 9:59 PM
Thanks!
leilei 4/28/2018 10:03 PM
i'm certain they've meant to spell challenge and not another ch word
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 10:03 PM
Yes
10:07 PM
ah too large
10:08 PM
Note to self: do not click Save
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 10:35 PM
10:35 PM
owo what's this
10:41 PM
10:41 PM
srsly
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/28/2018 11:01 PM
1
11:01 PM
I found debug menu in Race Drivin' a Go Go!
1
punk7890 4/28/2018 11:02 PM
the PlayStation 1 debugging machine
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/28/2018 11:18 PM
kek
Neko May 4/29/2018 12:02 AM
Oooh!
FMecha 4/29/2018 12:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqpOHMInQmo Super Monaco GP revisional differences
RB Video Library
1989 [60fps] スーパーモナコGP / Super Monaco GP 7S ALL (看...
12:24 AM
Marlbobo (Marlboro, center of controversy and why the revisional changes exist), Modil (Mobil 1), Hoster's (Foster's) are replaced with Flicky's and Ajip (Agip) and Pibelli (Pirelli) are replaced with gray, everything else is unchanged The section in the pit checkpoint were also updated accordingly
EdTheNerd 4/29/2018 12:28 AM
owo
12:28 AM
is that in 3d? neato
12:31 AM
oh i see, diferent at the end sequence
Neko May 4/29/2018 12:47 AM
Those changes were to match up with bans on tobacco advertisements in sporting events, including motorsport.
FMecha 4/29/2018 2:08 AM
Philip Morris lawyers actually went to Sega about it
Neko May 4/29/2018 3:22 AM
Probably because they were afraid of getting in deep shit over it.
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 3:47 AM
first ique player ace was just achieved btw
Deleted User 4/29/2018 3:57 AM
hm?
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 3:58 AM
im just getting it working on my ique so i can grab a good image, but check stuckpixel's twitter (pixel stuck)
Deleted User 4/29/2018 4:03 AM
EdTheNerd 4/29/2018 4:07 AM
heck
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 4:07 AM
just working on getting a better image
Deleted User 4/29/2018 4:11 AM
Uh.... @Revenant or @Xkeeper am i supposed to be able to see the manage users menu? (edited)
4:12 AM
Or anyone versed into this
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 4:12 AM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ique-player-code-execution-achieved.502377/
iQue Player Code Execution achieved!
Today we were able to successfully execute code on the iQue player! This is the first publically known code execution. Technical details: we were...
Netscape Navigator 4/29/2018 4:21 AM
i like a diet pippu with my marlbobo cigarette (edited)
Neko May 4/29/2018 4:25 AM
@Deleted User: Unless you were made an Administrator, probably not.
4:26 AM
Your name is still white so I think you may have tripped a nasty security bug.
Deleted User 4/29/2018 4:26 AM
I cant do anything so thats good
Neko May 4/29/2018 4:27 AM
Ah, okay. Yeah, you have no special roles.
Deleted User 4/29/2018 4:27 AM
But that is a bug nonetheless
Neko May 4/29/2018 4:27 AM
Indeed it is.
Deleted User 4/29/2018 4:28 AM
I totally am not chuckling at the "hello hacker fucker" role
Neko May 4/29/2018 4:29 AM
Heehee
ecumber 4/29/2018 4:29 AM
https://twitter.com/ecumber05/status/990500383226294272?s=21
ecumber (@ecumber05)
--ODYSSEY UPDATE SPOILERS-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ....
Neko May 4/29/2018 4:29 AM
Matt Furniss, I believe that was?
4:30 AM
Anyway, I need to get to sleep. Good night, all.
Deleted User 4/29/2018 4:30 AM
Night
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 4:37 AM
https://youtu.be/pwB40OlbS2s
Jhynjhiruu Rekrap
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 7:00 AM
ique player dr mario password screen
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:00 AM
nice
7:01 AM
good to know they never removed it
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 7:01 AM
the text is weird though
7:01 AM
i guess its cos fonts and stuff are moved around
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:01 AM
wonder if the debug menu is there still
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 7:02 AM
tell me how to activate it and i can check
7:02 AM
if it requires gameshark and/or code execution youll have to wait
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:03 AM
yeah needs gs codes
7:03 AM
I'd check sometime but I don't have that version atm
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 7:03 AM
we can modify rom data now (thats how we got ace), but its quite tricky
7:04 AM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ique-player-code-execution-achieved.502377/ read the op post
iQue Player Code Execution achieved!
Today we were able to successfully execute code on the iQue player! This is the first publically known code execution. Technical details: we were...
7:06 AM
if you can figure out what to modify in the rom, we made a program to do all the edits
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:08 AM
if you look at the code for the N64 version, it should be easy to force the pause menu to be the debug menu.
7:08 AM
with hex editing
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 7:08 AM
we cant really directly hex edit the games and have them boot
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:08 AM
ah
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:08 AM
can someone edit categories?
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 7:09 AM
we can edit a block (0x10 bytes), but it requires corrupting the block before it
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:09 AM
would probably need something like a gameshark then
7:09 AM
RAM editing somehow
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 7:10 AM
later we're gonna work on getting ace in dr mario
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:10 AM
what's that
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 7:10 AM
we could potentially run some code then jump back to the code
7:10 AM
*game
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:10 AM
ACE, Arbitary Code Execution
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:10 AM
Ah ok
7:10 AM
good luck
Jhynjhiruu 4/29/2018 7:11 AM
currently we only have ace in oot (we tried that first - biggest save file = biggest payload)
7:11 AM
but it should be doable in dr mario
7:11 AM
we really want it in dr mario anyway cos its the only full game that came with every ique
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:29 AM
need improv https://tcrf.net/Thunder_Force_V_(Sega_Saturn) "Hidden message on last boss"
Thunder Force V (Sega Saturn)
7:29 AM
means Idk fancy stuff
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:33 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/990554570437771265
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few debug menus in Bloody Roar 4 https://t.co/TfuR3xdaze These let you test bgm / sfx, play movies, test memory card functions and enable various debug modes during a match. It also contains a cutscene viewer as well.
7:33 AM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:33 AM
OWO
7:33 AM
good
7:33 AM
7:33 AM
followed
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:34 AM
thanks
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:34 AM
7:35 AM
this is what I have up for investigation
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:35 AM
what puyo puyo game
7:35 AM
is that
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:35 AM
SUN
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:35 AM
64?
7:35 AM
or another version
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:35 AM
Puyo Puyo Sun
7:37 AM
yk
7:37 AM
Puyo series have pretty ez to dumop music
7:37 AM
they're just AIFF
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/29/2018 7:38 AM
@punk7890 nice!
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:38 AM
thanks
Mine18 4/29/2018 7:38 AM
How the fuck do you find these debug menus left and right
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/29/2018 7:39 AM
By the way, Sega Saturn version Sakura Taisen has debug mode. http://ch.nicovideo.jp/Xealousive/blomaga/ar361082
サクラ大戦(初代) デバッグモードを遊びつくそう...
こちらの動画群で用いているデバッグモード。 様々な項目があるので、それについて調べてみました。 まずはデバッグモードへ...
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:39 AM
oof
7:39 AM
hmmm
7:39 AM
CPK
7:39 AM
HMMMMMM
7:39 AM
grabs acpk2avi
7:39 AM
I'm ready
7:40 AM
7:40 AM
hmmm
7:40 AM
ARLE.BIN have AIFF
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:40 AM
there's a debug menu in Sakura Taisen V but I couldn't find where the heck it was coming from
7:41 AM
@Mine18 just disassembly knowledge I guess
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:41 AM
7:41 AM
o
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/29/2018 7:41 AM
えいっ！
Mine18 4/29/2018 7:41 AM
Huh
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:41 AM
I found this
7:41 AM
on fucking ARLE.BIN
7:42 AM
7:42 AM
Hmmmm
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:42 AM
odd that the puyo sfx is played over it
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:42 AM
wait
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:42 AM
looks like as sequence format
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:42 AM
yeah
7:42 AM
Seems
7:43 AM
there is multiple voice on it
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:43 AM
header for instruments
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:43 AM
I found multiple AIFF header
7:43 AM
I should rip it
7:43 AM
but seems ffmpeg can't dump many AIFF batched
7:44 AM
ARLE1.aif
20 KB
7:45 AM
yeah ffmpeg can dump only first one
7:45 AM
ARLE.BIN 0-4FFF
7:46 AM
ARLE2.aif
20 KB
7:46 AM
ふぁいあ～！
7:46 AM
cute.
7:46 AM
seriously CUTE
punk7890 4/29/2018 7:46 AM
可愛い
7:47 AM
I like the older Puyo games a bit better
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:53 AM
splitting done
7:53 AM
HAND
7:53 AM
why they add a lot of padding
7:53 AM
00s (edited)
7:57 AM
1) Puyo Puyo uses AIFF for music 2) all <charname>.BIN are voices 3) MANY, MANY CPK Files (edited)
8:00 AM
Investigation done
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:10 AM
8:10 AM
SIGH
8:10 AM
are you fucking kidding me whoever made Command and Conquer in Sega Saturn
8:12 AM
you can't just put Scenario data on INI
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:19 AM
oh yeah
8:19 AM
I have Sega Saturn
8:19 AM
so
Deleted User 4/29/2018 8:24 AM
Hey guys
8:24 AM
who is ino snes?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:24 AM
hi
Deleted User 4/29/2018 8:24 AM
I can't remember I've played somekind of Snes homebrew game it was with gray and yellow colours I believe. It had very nice chiptune tracker music.
8:25 AM
I believe it was a sidescrolling shooter, screen always were going to right.
8:25 AM
Had 2-3 levels but very hard game.
8:25 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] hi!
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:26 AM
hi
8:26 AM
I'm entirely on Sega
Deleted User 4/29/2018 8:26 AM
Same here
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:26 AM
mostly dataminer
Deleted User 4/29/2018 8:26 AM
also prefer gba
8:26 AM
Dataminer? You mean you seek info in games?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:27 AM
yep
Deleted User 4/29/2018 8:27 AM
same
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:27 AM
Arle Nadja voice extracted just now
Deleted User 4/29/2018 8:27 AM
In Zero Tolerance sega game I found some epic codes
8:27 AM
Allowing to go up and down, jump, speed, level corrupt generator
8:27 AM
that was fun
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:27 AM
list it on tcrf
Deleted User 4/29/2018 8:27 AM
You can get their voices in sounds-resources.com or smth
8:28 AM
I will not do, because they are just codes, and too lazy
8:28 AM
lol
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:28 AM
https://tcrf.net/Thunder_Force_V_(Sega_Saturn)
Thunder Force V (Sega Saturn)
Deleted User 4/29/2018 8:28 AM
Seen it
8:29 AM
I need to go now, but welcome to message me. Also again, who is knowing places where snes homebrew games can be downloaded plz message me.
f(x)^3 4/29/2018 12:21 PM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] Why not put scenario data in INI? -shrug- (edited)
s0lo 4/29/2018 1:56 PM
tcrf meme run
divingkxt 4/29/2018 1:57 PM
No.
1:58 PM
Won't do it ever unless we're given lots of money.
s0lo 4/29/2018 1:58 PM
o ok
2:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAWauFF94H8 how do you access this?
pumacundoonma
Rhythm Tengoku intro
2:02 PM
how do you even access this in rhythm tengoku?
divingkxt 4/29/2018 2:04 PM
Presumably by accessing the debug menu.
2:04 PM
Which no one has any instructions available to access.
divingkxt 4/29/2018 2:19 PM
So, the original SimCity had Godzilla... https://tcrf.net/images/6/6b/SimCity_%28Mac_OS_Classic%29_-_Monster_1.1.png (edited)
2:20 PM
He was changed to what's essentially a giant Japanese salamander... https://tcrf.net/images/0/0d/SimCity_%28Mac_OS_Classic%29_-_Monster_1.2.png
2:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ayeTclTnWY Fun fact - one was recently found by a high school student in Japan, and caught footage of it.
Cthulhu Aklo
Giant salamander emerges from river in Japan!
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 2:29 PM
cool
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 4/29/2018 2:37 PM
divingkxt 4/29/2018 2:39 PM
Cool.
f(x)^3 4/29/2018 2:50 PM
I should get to working on the Midtown Madness series pages, there's a lot of neat stuff from those
2:51 PM
They even left actual dev tools in the game files in the beta versions
Video 4/29/2018 3:28 PM
anyone else here getting some problems connecting to the site?
divingkxt 4/29/2018 3:29 PM
It's currently under maintenance.
Video 4/29/2018 3:30 PM
ohhhh
3:30 PM
ok
Xkeeper 4/29/2018 3:47 PM
no it's getting ddosed.
divingkxt 4/29/2018 3:47 PM
Oh shit.
3:47 PM
That's not good.
Xkeeper 4/29/2018 3:47 PM
whoever did it is an idiot and once i checked what was going on i 'fixed' it. it ight still be slow and shitty but it should be responding now.
s0lo 4/29/2018 3:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAoALOs2dus
birby100
Warioware DIY: Boss microgames, Tingle, and softlocks
Dezent 4/29/2018 3:48 PM
Dayum
3:48 PM
Who bets it was npz
1
s0lo 4/29/2018 3:48 PM
how do we replace offical microgames with custom ones?
divingkxt 4/29/2018 3:48 PM
I thought it would be 404 UNF.
Xkeeper 4/29/2018 3:51 PM
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 3:52 PM
oh nice shade of purple
Dezent 4/29/2018 3:53 PM
Purple / pink Windows themes best themes
3:53 PM
Source: rocking Orchid Light
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 3:54 PM
I have a special custom theme of purple and it looks really nice
Dezent 4/29/2018 3:54 PM
Nice
3:54 PM
I keep purple mostly because, well I like the colour and it fits into my firefox theme
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 3:55 PM
I’m weird and picky
3:55 PM
I like the right shades of purple, as long as it’s not too light and not too dark
Dezent 4/29/2018 3:55 PM
Yeah, same
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 3:56 PM
Not too red or not too blue
Dezent 4/29/2018 3:56 PM
And I like hot pink too, for some reason
3:56 PM
Like, the kind of that pierces your eye
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 3:56 PM
ack
Dezent 4/29/2018 3:56 PM
Everyones different, I guess
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 3:57 PM
No, I mean peircing my eyes
Dezent 4/29/2018 3:57 PM
oooooooooh
3:57 PM
lmao
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 3:57 PM
“IT BURRRNS!”
Xkeeper 4/29/2018 3:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxUUGwRChSk
Xkeeper
That there is just a sad display, boy.
Dezent 4/29/2018 4:00 PM
mrw
Deleted User 4/29/2018 4:01 PM
Lol
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 4:01 PM
Which voice is yours?
Deleted User 4/29/2018 4:02 PM
https://mastodon.social/@revenant/99944443480019186 https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/990675354980237312 https://twitter.com/__fisk/status/990676271599439874
(pointless aspect)
(pointless aspect) (@revenant@mastodon.social)
i'm not kidding https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/990675354980237312 https://twitter.com/__fisk/status/990676271599439874
🌸 X/Revya 🌸 (@xkeepah)
this seems abnormal
=w= (@__fisk)
@xkeepah It's a client worm that leverages Sourcemod's ability to send HTTP requests. Facepunch probably aren't going to fix it
divingkxt 4/29/2018 4:02 PM
My 100,000,000 proxies... Activate! /reference
4:03 PM
(It's from Barrack on Mac OS Classic, for the curious)
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 4:08 PM
@divingkxt b&
4:08 PM
we found whodunit
divingkxt 4/29/2018 4:08 PM
Nope, not me.
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 4:09 PM
That’s what the person who did it would say ;)
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 4:09 PM
divingkxt 4/29/2018 4:09 PM
Seriously, it wasn't.
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 4:09 PM
I’m kidding
divingkxt 4/29/2018 4:09 PM
OK.
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 4:11 PM
OK DK
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 4:11 PM
I wouldn’t accuse you of doing that, I know you care about the site too much to do so
4:13 PM
I was trying my best to not make others think I was being serious, sorry (edited)
Dezent 4/29/2018 4:22 PM
/s or /sarcasm is pretty much the way to say that you're sarcastic on the internet
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 4:23 PM
Yeah, i know
4:23 PM
I just didn’t think of doing that
Dezent 4/29/2018 4:24 PM
Mm
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 4:24 PM
Xkeeper 4/29/2018 4:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Nmaster64/status/990690122948599808
Nmaster64 (@Nmaster64)
@xkeepah Someone must really hate DYKG to go that far just to delay their next episode.
caff!!! 4/29/2018 4:46 PM
heh
Xkeeper 4/29/2018 4:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wso1maz2YY0
Xkeeper
Y'all come back now! More where that came from.
4:46 PM
still going btw
caff!!! 4/29/2018 4:46 PM
look at me kids, i'm a real ddos
4:50 PM
another music suggestion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yODLkaF8F-Y
Truesonic1
Sonic Unleashed "Result E" Music
Deleted User 4/29/2018 5:12 PM
kirby kirby kirby
5:13 PM
anyone post the dream friends stuff? i guess a bunch got found in level data
Δndrew P. 4/29/2018 5:46 PM
On some sites i’m an admin on, if someone DDoSes you then you dox them and keep their static I.P (edited)
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 6:26 PM
this DDoS is pathetic though
6:27 PM
@Xkeeper may want to use error code 444 instead
6:27 PM
on nginx, that tells the server to just immediately drop without a response
6:27 PM
https://nginx.org/en/docs/http/request_processing.html
6:28 PM
example: (modify this for user-agent or whatnot)
6:28 PM
`server { listen 80; server_name ""; return 444; }`
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 6:51 PM
actual video of the ddoser https://tcrf.net/images/2/24/TCRF-SucksIcon.gif
Deleted User 4/29/2018 6:56 PM
lol
6:56 PM
i don't really understand why someone would want to ddos a site like tcrf
EdTheNerd 4/29/2018 6:58 PM
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 6:58 PM
Some people have nothing better to do sadly. Tis a waste of time and resources
EdTheNerd 4/29/2018 7:07 PM
Redirect any traffic with that agent back to sender
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:08 PM
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:10 PM
Next they'll be using a browser internal to VRChat as their attack vector, I presume?
EdTheNerd 4/29/2018 7:12 PM
They should be thankful their little residential network isn't getting ass blasted by the server lol
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:12 PM
EdTheNerd 4/29/2018 7:12 PM
Though I would fully support doing so
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:15 PM
It's not even the vector that confuses me.
7:15 PM
Why DDoS TCRF?
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:15 PM
could be someone who got banned for being a complete idiot
7:15 PM
see: "wii sports baeata"
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:16 PM
I must confess I'm not familiar.
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:16 PM
some time ago some guy posted their "wii sports beta" on tcrf
7:16 PM
it was all bs
7:16 PM
and was deleted
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:17 PM
Ah.
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:17 PM
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:17 PM
they moved to a wikia in protest
7:17 PM
...the wikia has been closed
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:17 PM
Heh.
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:17 PM
Guy is determined to show off his fake beta
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:17 PM
https://tcrf.net/Talk:Wii_Sports#On_the_.22beta_iso.22_from_ryanskova
Talk:Wii Sports
7:17 PM
never mind the fact that the 'prototype' had retail encryption
divingkxt 4/29/2018 7:18 PM
And the kid blocked any question as to where this prototype was from.
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:18 PM
i should've replied wrt encryption at the time but oh well
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:18 PM
Who even posts a bogus beta?
7:18 PM
Why?
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:18 PM
people who want fame
7:19 PM
i will note that it is entirely possible for a wii prototype to have retail crypto
divingkxt 4/29/2018 7:19 PM
Because of 12-year-old boys who are obsessed with being the next Simon Wai.
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:19 PM
but if it does, the signature had better be valid
7:20 PM
in other news
7:20 PM
i started noticing some caller IDs at home say "SPAM?"
7:20 PM
turns out this is something verizon rolled out in the past few weeks
7:20 PM
https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/spam-verizon-gives-you-a-new-tool-to-avoid-those-pesky-robocalls-with-new-caller-id-feature-20180416-00638
SPAM? Verizon gives you a new tool to avoid those pesky robocalls ...
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:21 PM
That's pretty cool.
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:22 PM
oh, eientei95 mentioned the debug thing
7:22 PM
"I'd like to also state that the ISO given was one made by CD image tools, not the GC/Wii SDK. Also, all Wii prototypes have been in a format and encryption specific to debug Wiis. This was only recently added to Dolphin (thanks to efforts by GerbilSoft). If you're going to fake an ISO, at least do some research first."
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:24 PM
Wonders if he and npz are related...
divingkxt 4/29/2018 7:24 PM
"You obviously were not paying attention to the messages, i literally said that the iso file didnt work so i had to replace the files in a regular wii sports iso with the files from the beta iso"
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:24 PM
7:24 PM
7:25 PM
brain hurts
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:25 PM
which begs the question
7:25 PM
why would it "not work"
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:25 PM
Cause it's not real
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:25 PM
unless it's missing OPENING.BNR, in which case it'd still work if booted directly on dolphin, a usb loader, or devkit boot program
7:25 PM
:V
Deleted User 4/29/2018 7:26 PM
i wonder if he put anything in there or if it is straight up just a retail iso of wii sports
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:27 PM
his wikia "documented" a bunch of bullshit scrapped sports
Deleted User 4/29/2018 7:27 PM
hahaha
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:27 PM
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jgVwydVB0kQJ:wiisports.wikia.com/wiki/Airplane_(Unused_Wii_Sports_Game)+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1
Airplane (Unused Wii Sports Game)+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client...
Files for the unused Airplane game shown at the E3 Demo of Wii Sports, Still exists on the beta iso, Found By ryanskova (source: ryanskova)
Deleted User 4/29/2018 7:27 PM
Wii Sports Wiki
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:27 PM
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CY8ZYYfYkmkJ:game-content.wikia.com/wiki/Wii_Sports_Beta+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1
Wii Sports Beta | Game Content Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia
The Menu Is Quite Different than the final game obviously:P The menu color is purple instead of blue and the music is lower pitched and slower then the final version In the beta iso there are...
7:27 PM
oh, the wii sports wiki is a different one
7:28 PM
so ignore that i guess
Deleted User 4/29/2018 7:28 PM
hahahahaha "The Menu Is Quite Different than the final game obviously:P "
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:28 PM
This is pretty amusing.
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:28 PM
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zGTtZcvrdsgJ:game-content.wikia.com/wiki/Wii_Play_Beta+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1
Wii Play Beta | Game Content Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia
A Message To Jimmy Kaz and Ryanskova, I have a Wii Play Beta iso and a Mario Galaxy Beta iso that I am willing to trade with you for those Wii Sports Beta Isos.
7:28 PM
`A Message To Jimmy Kaz and Ryanskova, I have a Wii Play Beta iso and a Mario Galaxy Beta iso that I am willing to trade with you for those Wii Sports Beta Isos. Add me on Discord so we can work out a deal: LuigiThePr0#9637`
divingkxt 4/29/2018 7:29 PM
That was trolling.
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:29 PM
thought so
7:29 PM
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jievXZ5NhgQJ:game-content.wikia.com/wiki/Tengu_(Beta_Wii_Sports_Game)+&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1
Tengu (Beta Wii Sports Game) | Game Content Wiki | FANDOM powered...
On June 28, 2005 Development for a Game in Wii Sports with the code name "Tengu" was started. I had saved some files for it from a very rare beta iso that was uploaded to the internet. And i have...
divingkxt 4/29/2018 7:29 PM
And currently, Game Content Wiki is dead in the water.
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:29 PM
even the game description makes it sound like 100% BS
divingkxt 4/29/2018 7:29 PM
But its memory lives on on this Discord.
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:29 PM
the purpose of wii sports was to demonstrate the motion control
7:30 PM
`This game was going to have support for up to 2 players, a nunchuck was required to play as well as a Wii Remote. Your Character (A Mii) would be controlled by the nunchuck and buttons on the remote. this is what the controls would have been like Wii Remote A = Jump B = Slide + = Pause - = Objective Map 1 = No Functions 2 = No Functions Nunchuck Circle Pad = Character Movement C = No Functions Z = Run Fast`
7:30 PM
"This game had a plot to it, let me explain it, you were flying in a plane going to some unknown place for a vacation or something and the plane crashed on a remote island due to turbulence and you would have had to go to all areas in the game to complete tasks and get enough items/money to repair the plane and leave, I guess it kinda makes sense. But it may have been scrapped because it did not qualify as a sport."
Δndrew P. 4/29/2018 7:30 PM
that menu "screenshot" looks like its edited with photoshop ngl
divingkxt 4/29/2018 7:30 PM
"I deleted it before i even knew about this site, someone told me about this website about a month ago"
7:31 PM
The "Dog ate my homework" of prototype hoaxers.
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:31 PM
Δndrew P. 4/29/2018 7:31 PM
There are some people in this world who pull that kind of BS
leilei 4/29/2018 7:31 PM
my uncle works at nintendo invented revolution sport's beta
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:31 PM
i still need to get my Last Story protos working on retail and/or dolphin, and release it
Δndrew P. 4/29/2018 7:32 PM
If you were to have a prototype, at least record it, doesnt matter if it's screen recorded or you used yourr phone, and take more pics
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GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:32 PM
i took pics of the debug menu a while back
7:32 PM
nothing in-game because i haven't played Last Story so i don't know what i'm looking for
7:33 PM
also i backed it up on multiple devices :V
Deleted User 4/29/2018 7:33 PM
i have a rare Developer prototype "Beta" of Donky Kong Country for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. Differences from final are that Funky Kong is seen smoking a joint and Cranky Kong has no dialogue yet. How much will you pay ?
1
1
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:33 PM
$1
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:33 PM
I wish I cared enough to sort out the Super Turrican stuff.
Δndrew P. 4/29/2018 7:33 PM
more like $-1
Deleted User 4/29/2018 7:34 PM
Real talk though id give my left arm for a dk64 prototype where they still had real guns
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:34 PM
Rip wallet
1
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:34 PM
It'd be interesting to see one of the pre expansion pak required builds. (edited)
Δndrew P. 4/29/2018 7:37 PM
There's no real prototype I'd want but it would be nice to have either a Net Yaroze or a Dreamcast dev unit
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:37 PM
iirc the expansion pak was added to fix a crash bug
7:37 PM
and the game didn't actually make use of it
Deleted User 4/29/2018 7:37 PM
yeah
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:37 PM
Yeppers
1
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:37 PM
Ah. I knew it fixed the bug but didn't realise the game didn't actually make proper use of it.
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:37 PM
that is, the game code itself doesn't need more than 4MB RAM
Deleted User 4/29/2018 7:37 PM
the development of that game sounds pretty interesting.. they wanted to have the other kongs follow you like in the dkc games at first from what i remember reading
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 7:37 PM
the ps2 tool is king
1
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:37 PM
but the extra RAM fixes a bug somewhere
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 7:38 PM
better than the kitana
1
Deleted User 4/29/2018 7:38 PM
it sounds like it went through a lot of changes
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:38 PM
Another Rare game: Perfect Dark would be interesting. See how far along Perfect Head actually was before getting canned.
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:39 PM
For some reason I thought it was fully implemented then stripped out
1
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:40 PM
Hearsay said it was something to do with shootings. (edited)
leilei 4/29/2018 7:40 PM
it could've been
7:40 PM
america was on edge since columbine
divingkxt 4/29/2018 7:40 PM
Yes, Columbine took place during the game's development.
7:40 PM
It's why gun peripherals have become uncommon since then.
leilei 4/29/2018 7:40 PM
it also put game modding in a bad light for a while too, especially for doom
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 7:41 PM
light guns are still cool
EdTheNerd 4/29/2018 7:41 PM
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:41 PM
There's this clip of one of the old reps of Doomworld talking to the Clintons about how Doom doesn't fuck people's brains up. (edited)
EdTheNerd 4/29/2018 7:41 PM
Never 4get
GerbilSoft 4/29/2018 7:41 PM
banner is totally legit
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 7:42 PM
yep
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:42 PM
Wish I witnessed that, however dealing with npz on OG was too annoying
leilei 4/29/2018 7:42 PM
i'm reminded of this one kid who claimed to own battlefront 3 and tried to get it through steam greenlight
7:42 PM
his graphics were mspaint jobs over old trailer footage
Laenthor 4/29/2018 7:42 PM
greenlight aproved
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:43 PM
hiiiiii
leilei 4/29/2018 7:43 PM
and i believe he also tried to recruit programmers/artists/etc a whole team on some indie games site
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:43 PM
good morning
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 7:43 PM
hey
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 7:43 PM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:43 PM
7:43 PM
SSF is ❤
leilei 4/29/2018 7:44 PM
i think all that's survived is his steam artwork page https://steamcommunity.com/id/WolfDampf/images/
Steam Community :: WolfDampf :: Artwork
7:44 PM
oddly no bf3 there
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:44 PM
this is 16:9 pixel perfect
leilei 4/29/2018 7:44 PM
OH YEAH he tried to put someone else's hyrule total war mod through greenlight
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:44 PM
lol
leilei 4/29/2018 7:44 PM
you might've known about that through the jim fucking sterling son guy (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 7:44 PM
sounds like a scumbag
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:44 PM
yea
7:46 PM
https://puu.sh/AcXJo/2668e63a1b.png idk why I use real tracker to playback music
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 7:47 PM
neat
leilei 4/29/2018 7:47 PM
because some regressed toward the whole kitchen sink
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:47 PM
accurate emu of OPL3
leilei 4/29/2018 7:47 PM
Cubic Player regressed many mods after 1.7 and still remains unfixed in opencp
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:47 PM
Should use AB16 but
7:47 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:47 PM
adlib tracker intrigues me though I found it rather intimidating.
leilei 4/29/2018 7:48 PM
i hang onto the old 1.6 version from '95 because that seems to handle note cut/delay correctly (edited)
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:48 PM
Compared to having previously dicked around with Famitracker and some I think .it stuff in OpenMPT. (edited)
leilei 4/29/2018 7:48 PM
and i feel openmpt broke stuff too, so i'm sticking with an old 2002 mpt
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:48 PM
I use openmpt and openmpt123
7:49 PM
openmpt vs milky's arp table is different
7:49 PM
7:49 PM
ns how well does it parform in dosbox
leilei 4/29/2018 7:50 PM
i've never attempted to make fm mods/s3ms (edited)
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:51 PM
I wanna use some tracker stuff for my game since then I can enable and disable channels on the fly. (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:51 PM
yeah
leilei 4/29/2018 7:51 PM
and i can't really compose anything original either
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:51 PM
OpenMPT have correct ARP table
7:51 PM
good
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:52 PM
It's supposed to be a pretty basic system though. A few set channels are intended to be added in based on the number of enemies you're dealing with.
leilei 4/29/2018 7:52 PM
the times i did sounded just bad, so i just stick to the technical 'lets reproduce a song' transcription challenges
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:52 PM
https://wiki.openmpt.org/Development:_Test_Cases/XM
XM
7:52 PM
FT2 behaiviour vs openmpt (edited)
leilei 4/29/2018 7:52 PM
more for learning on how to track by ear and using various commands with a lot of trial and error
Altazimuth 4/29/2018 7:53 PM
Though I lack for samples and am still contemplating xm or it. Leaning to the latter.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:53 PM
yk
7:53 PM
Drum with retrig is ❤
leilei 4/29/2018 7:53 PM
yes
7:54 PM
i love abusing notecut/delay across 2 or more channels to squeeze a brief appregio in a slow tempo (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:55 PM
7:55 PM
0cc-ft
leilei 4/29/2018 7:55 PM
i only messed with ft to transcribe a bit of cave story because i didn't like the '8-bit' remixes out there (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:56 PM
true
7:56 PM
but you can convert .org to .xm
7:57 PM
iirc cave story used organya
leilei 4/29/2018 7:57 PM
i just wanted to try to fit within the standard nes limits w/o chips (edited)
7:58 PM
and by ear
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 7:58 PM
I think VRC6 is fair game
leilei 4/29/2018 7:58 PM
i also tried to transcribe vvvvvv's pushing onward once (to mod) and kind of failed that in the timing to an embarrassing level (edited)
8:00 PM
it sounds okay for the first half, then suddenly.......oh my ears
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:00 PM
I can't believe UnderTale used SD-70
punk7890 4/29/2018 8:01 PM
Roland?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:01 PM
yea
punk7890 4/29/2018 8:01 PM
nice
8:01 PM
I still want a JV1010 someday
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 8:02 PM
some music uses ZUN Pet, (aka SD-70 Trumpet)
8:02 PM
that Vibrato
8:02 PM
❤
8:02 PM
I think I can make that in 3xOSC
8:02 PM
but
8:02 PM
quite challenge
Deleted User 4/29/2018 9:41 PM
So....tcrf was ddosed
EdTheNerd 4/29/2018 9:45 PM
Poorly so
9:45 PM
Fixed by just blocking the useragent
Deleted User 4/29/2018 9:55 PM
Im dying with laughter
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/29/2018 10:39 PM
hi
Paulweeze71 4/29/2018 10:50 PM
divingkxt 4/29/2018 10:51 PM
こんにちは。
punk7890 4/29/2018 10:52 PM
hi
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 10:52 PM
こんばんは
darkwitchclaire 4/29/2018 10:53 PM
こんばんは
Neko May 4/29/2018 10:54 PM
meows
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 10:55 PM
ogg vorbis vs ogg opus (edited)
10:55 PM
for music
punk7890 4/29/2018 10:55 PM
皆、今日は元気ですか
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 10:55 PM
Yes I am good
Neko May 4/29/2018 10:55 PM
Vorbis for music
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 10:59 PM
はい。私は元気です。
Δndrew P. 4/29/2018 11:00 PM
I cannot speak Japanese on the spot and i hate using google translate
Deleted User 4/29/2018 11:00 PM
Who could remember such classics as
11:00 PM
"すみませんね"
punk7890 4/29/2018 11:01 PM
頑張ってね
Deleted User 4/29/2018 11:01 PM
and "ジャガ芋"
divingkxt 4/29/2018 11:04 PM
More like 里芋.
Neko May 4/29/2018 11:10 PM
Google Translate actually does pretty good with JP>EN
11:10 PM
Like, what you get back makes sense
11:10 PM
Microsoft, not even close
11:11 PM
Twitter uses MS Translation and it's garbage, especially for JP>EN.
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 11:12 PM
Bing has always been trash
Neko May 4/29/2018 11:13 PM
Yeah, it can barely handle ES>EN
11:13 PM
Or FR>EN
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/29/2018 11:16 PM
hence I am Japanese
11:16 PM
NATIVE
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 11:21 PM
Cool
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 11:29 PM
i wish i could learn kanji faster
Deleted User 4/29/2018 11:29 PM
Bing's good for finding doujins but everything else? nah
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 11:30 PM
But the ways I’ve tried, like practicing the radicals, just aren’t the sort of thing I’m looking for (edited)
11:32 PM
Anyone here got tips?
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/29/2018 11:55 PM
11:55 PM
I found FPS display in Descent PS1
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 11:55 PM
Ooh descent
11:55 PM
How?
11:56 PM
also, is this the japanese version?
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/29/2018 11:56 PM
This is US version.
ゲームボーイ64 4/29/2018 11:56 PM
Ah. Ok.
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 12:05 AM
JP version is dubbed / subtitled.
ゲームボーイ64 4/30/2018 12:06 AM
Ahhhhh
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 12:06 AM
Sometimes there are games that released without dubbing/subtitling. (I am so surprised!)
ゲームボーイ64 4/30/2018 12:07 AM
I’ve never seen one in person, and it has very little documentation
12:08 AM
So then, I take it, there are actually japanese lines in the game instead of english?
12:08 AM
That ought to be interesting
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 12:09 AM
yes.
ゲームボーイ64 4/30/2018 12:09 AM
Ok
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 12:10 AM
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6674690
DESCENT(ディセント) PS版
DESCENT(ディセント) PS版 [ゲーム] DESCENT1のPS版です。買ってきたばかりなので下手くそです。PC版は未プレイなので比較はできません...
ゲームボーイ64 4/30/2018 12:10 AM
Ah. Thanks.
12:11 AM
I’d register, but my japanese is lacking
leilei 4/30/2018 12:43 AM
wow i'm not surprised there's old descent code lurking in descent psx
12:43 AM
there's probably other things in there like non-functional demo recording maybe
12:44 AM
apart from someobvious quake-based ports i can't think of any much other straight pc->console examples
12:45 AM
there's got to be a way to pull down the console for ps2 elite force and ps2 q3r somehow
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 1:22 AM
1:24 AM
I found debug display in simple 2000 series vol.88 the mini suke police.
ゲームボーイ64 4/30/2018 1:25 AM
i’m surprised that there are so many debug menus laying around
MysticSageJosh 4/30/2018 1:28 AM
people think no one will find em
punk7890 4/30/2018 1:38 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice
1:38 AM
you're on a roll with ps1 stuff
leilei 4/30/2018 1:38 AM
i'm not sure what simple the X games i've tried before
1:38 AM
checks memory card
punk7890 4/30/2018 1:38 AM
that game looks like it has decent gfx for ps1
leilei 4/30/2018 1:39 AM
could swear it's ps2
ゲームボーイ64 4/30/2018 1:39 AM
Simple 1500 are ps1
1:39 AM
Simple 2000 are ps2
punk7890 4/30/2018 1:39 AM
ah ok
1:39 AM
was gonna say
leilei 4/30/2018 1:40 AM
i think that in ps1 would at least be half height and have dithering really exposed in those planes blended over the screen
1:40 AM
and the ground looking really affine
punk7890 4/30/2018 1:42 AM
meanwhile I found another debug menu in another game done by the same devs as Bloody Roar 2 and 4
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 1:44 AM
@punk7890 thanks! and nice find!
leilei 4/30/2018 1:46 AM
i've tried the zombie vs ambulance, the kyonshi panic (had to XD), the love smash super tennis, the cat fight , the mogite mizugi, the all star katutou and the bowling
ゲームボーイ64 4/30/2018 1:46 AM
play THEメイド服と機関銃 (edited)
1:46 AM
105
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 1:48 AM
try Vol.81 The 地球防衛軍2. It is very nice game.
punk7890 4/30/2018 1:48 AM
earth defense force is fun yeah
1:48 AM
I have the ps3 version
1:51 AM
☆このメッセージはデバッグ専用です heh neat
1:51 AM
does this get printed to console window?
1:52 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 1:55 AM
This message is related to memory card function. but It has not display anywhere.
leilei 4/30/2018 1:55 AM
the simple series also reminds me of trying out random game clones in the apt repositories
divingkxt 4/30/2018 1:56 AM
A lot of the time, debug menus are dummied out by setting a value to be either debug or retail.
1:56 AM
Even in prototypes of games.
leilei 4/30/2018 2:08 AM
i also like the seinfeld episode name scheme for the titles
2:08 AM
hope there's a simple series with a Friends title scheme (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/30/2018 2:11 AM
debug menu huh…
2:12 AM
How can I exactly find debug menu?
2:12 AM
ABRACADABLA
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 2:14 AM
Use target machine disassembler.
divingkxt 4/30/2018 2:14 AM
no$psx has a debugger in it.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/30/2018 2:14 AM
ohyeah true
2:14 AM
something CMP something right?
2:15 AM
reads exactly 1 byte or many
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 2:22 AM
デバッグテキストを探して、テキストを参照している部分を見つけます。大概、無条件に飛ばすようになっていたりするのでジャンプ命令をnopに変えたり値を入れてジャンプしないようにします。 (sorry, I gave up writing it in English)
ゲームボーイ64 4/30/2018 2:23 AM
おやすみなさい
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 2:24 AM
good night
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/30/2018 2:36 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ I can read English just fine
2:36 AM
oh wait you gave up
2:36 AM
thankfully I can read Japanese lol
2:37 AM
native
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 2:38 AM
I am native Japanese. English is learning now...
Chromaryu [3DS person] 4/30/2018 2:38 AM
Me too
1
2:38 AM
;)
punk7890 4/30/2018 6:42 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/990904120654548992
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few debug menus in Zatch Bell! Mamodo Battles (PS2) https://t.co/2Gb7iVLewO This is by the same developers who did Bloody Roar 3 & 4. Basically the same debug menu remains here. Has sound tests, memory card tests, and you can quick sta...
6:42 AM
leilei 4/30/2018 6:52 AM
eighting right?
punk7890 4/30/2018 6:53 AM
yeah
Glisp 4/30/2018 9:26 AM
so @divingkxt apparently there's a bunch of screenshots of Morrowind's construction set during development I've never saw before
9:26 AM
including ones with Pelagiad, Vivec, and Gnisis still under development
TommyD 4/30/2018 3:06 PM
Celebrating the 21st anniversary of the death of Xband today at 7 central over at twitch.tv/retrodotlive
3:06 PM
No celebration is complete without super unreliable and crashy demos
rampy 4/30/2018 3:23 PM
https://youtu.be/73yDRm8KaWY
stoneG
Wii Trailer 1
3:25 PM
Could be some possible pre-release article worthy footage in there
3:26 PM
the Wii Sports stuff looks a bit different, gonna get some screenshots of my own to compare
!registerkey PPLTOasT 4/30/2018 3:35 PM
still waiting for the Wii Sports BETA
GerbilSoft 4/30/2018 3:36 PM
now with more platform games
Deleted User 4/30/2018 3:37 PM
heard a wii sports beta was found for the ps vita
3:37 PM
big if true
GerbilSoft 4/30/2018 3:37 PM
...in other news
3:37 PM
gbatemp added an XP system with levels
3:37 PM
why
Nex 4/30/2018 3:37 PM
Wii sports [BETA VERSION].zip
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Deleted User 4/30/2018 3:38 PM
cause gbatemp
rampy 4/30/2018 3:42 PM
You guys play your betas
3:43 PM
while I play the real game once the Wii comes out
3:43 PM
already have it pre-ordered
Deleted User 4/30/2018 5:12 PM
everything needs an xp system with levels
Revenant 4/30/2018 7:00 PM
https://twitter.com/voidpnt/status/991089838660169729
Voidpoint (@voidpnt)
We found the source to the internal tool used to generate the palette remaps for Duke 3D... so of course we had to compile it and run it.
leilei 4/30/2018 7:01 PM
nice
leilei 4/30/2018 7:12 PM
anything for the shading colormap?
7:15 PM
i have a feeling their shading calculation/picking is more saturated with the typical id lumpy way
7:17 PM
it's something i wanted to figure out for engoo in 2011 for the onthefly colormap regen (edited)
7:19 PM
FUN FACT: Quake has an unused color remapping function for models dummied out. when undummied out it makes all models red. Romero put it in but forgot what it was for
7:19 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
7:19 PM
but one thing for sure it's the same remapping method quake used to have for its menu background, in which that bit of scrapped code helped me reproduce perfectly since that menu fade is gone from the source since 1.07 (edited)
punk7890 4/30/2018 7:20 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ there's some debug menus in Rockman X4 Sample Version if you want to take a look
7:21 PM
X4_SPECIAL_TAIKENBAN.txt
129 bytes
7:22 PM
uncalled though
Athena 悠里マヤ 4/30/2018 7:24 PM
@punk7890 I will check it.
punk7890 4/30/2018 7:24 PM
cool
7:24 PM
they probably were part of game mode index
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/30/2018 8:41 PM
im getting ever so closer to accessing the unused gamemode in patapon 3
8:42 PM
but from what it looks like, the behaviour of objects in it doesnt seem finished
8:42 PM
Which is... disappointing
Patapon Fanatic #3 4/30/2018 9:24 PM
at least i found out how to load these missions
glossydon 5/1/2018 1:43 AM
I did some research on the Ocarina of Time "A + B" Article, and found that one image has an incorrect caption:
1:43 AM
(edited)
1:43 AM
The page it's found on is here:
1:43 AM
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/A_%2B_B#Camera (edited)
A_%2B_B
1:44 AM
It states "A wireframe Link surveys a Stalfos in first-person."
1:44 AM
1:45 AM
On the right page of this scanned magazine, a Stalfos wireframe was placed on top of a screenshot. Identical to the one on the A + B page.
1:46 AM
I'm a little new here, and I read the rules and welcome channels; I didn't know where else to put this.
divingkxt 5/1/2018 1:51 AM
@glossydon Fixed.
glossydon 5/1/2018 1:54 AM
Thanks. I felt like the information on TCRF had to be as accurate as possible, and noticing that just compelled me to help.
1:54 AM
Neko May 5/1/2018 2:13 AM
@glossydon: Thank you! ^w^
glossydon 5/1/2018 2:16 AM
My pleasure.
Kelton 5/1/2018 2:21 AM
@rampy that wii trailer shows dev tool v4 early 2006 beta wiimotes with pause/refresh buttons and round dpd although the versions shown are a bit different from the dev ones and the one in page on wikipedia article cause they got ninty logo like tgs 2005 ones (dev tool v2)
punk7890 5/1/2018 6:44 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/991267099434663936
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several debug menus in Mega Man X: Command Mission (PS2) https://t.co/BdFcgt5Phv This contains your standard level select and sound test debug menus. In addition to those, there is a battle debug menu, cutscene viewer, message tests, and...
6:44 AM
Mine18 5/1/2018 6:57 AM
I ‏wonder if there are any test stages
6:57 AM
punk7890 5/1/2018 7:09 AM
might be
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/1/2018 8:49 AM
8:51 AM
@punk7890 I did call this debug function in Rockman 8 Trial version. but It is not display "OBJECT TEST MODE". (edited)
8:52 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/1/2018 9:19 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/1/2018 9:55 AM
Where should I write these "Rockman 8 Trial version" debug functions?
Nex 5/1/2018 9:59 AM
nice find
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/1/2018 10:01 AM
thanks!
Jhynjhiruu 5/1/2018 10:18 AM
In a bit we can try and modify iQue Player games to make them crash
10:18 AM
Should we start with Star Fox 64? I heard it has a crash debugger
Nex 5/1/2018 10:25 AM
https://youtu.be/Z4GDvZB5dlQ I did a thing
Nex TheUser
FFXV: All Pre-release Footage from 2014
Paulweeze71 5/1/2018 11:06 AM
Reaper man 5/1/2018 11:12 AM
reads xkeeper's ddos thread
11:12 AM
....damn
11:12 AM
botnet script kiddie is fucked
Laenthor 5/1/2018 11:34 AM
Yeah I saw that in the block log, what happened tltr?
Revenant 5/1/2018 11:37 AM
guy tried to ddos the site using his badly made garry's mod botnet (not kidding) and then messaged me about it a day later out of the blue to make sure i knew that he definitely didn't do it
old acc! inactive 5/1/2018 11:38 AM
nice
Revenant 5/1/2018 11:38 AM
except his tcrf account was registered with his regular email address which you could google to find him advertising the botnet software and posting screenshots of him ddosing other sites
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Reaper man 5/1/2018 11:38 AM
golf claps
old acc! inactive 5/1/2018 11:38 AM
amazing
Revenant 5/1/2018 11:38 AM
such as the website of his new best friends, the finnish police
old acc! inactive 5/1/2018 11:39 AM
outstanding
Revenant 5/1/2018 11:39 AM
(which is where he lives, he was doing this shit from his own home IP address also)
11:39 AM
that's pretty much it
Reaper man 5/1/2018 11:40 AM
would be fun to find out if they are going to press charges against him
Laenthor 5/1/2018 11:41 AM
Well that's... pretty dumb XD
11:41 AM
Even I know nothing about that and I think I would at least use some form of VPN or something
Dezent 5/1/2018 11:41 AM
Wait, the guy was from Finland?
Revenant 5/1/2018 11:42 AM
yes
Dezent 5/1/2018 11:42 AM
...Well then.
Revenant 5/1/2018 11:42 AM
on twitter he made consecutive posts about ddosing both the finnish police and also the website of the apartment complex where he lived
11:42 AM
not exactly a tactical mastermind
Paulweeze71 5/1/2018 11:42 AM
Dezent 5/1/2018 11:43 AM
And we're supposed to have a good IT sector... He proved otherwise
Revenant 5/1/2018 11:47 AM
well as long as most finnish IT staff don't do their work using garry's mod lua scripts i think it's all good
Laenthor 5/1/2018 11:54 AM
goes into prop hunt server "Where is the little twerp?"
Dezent 5/1/2018 11:55 AM
lmao
11:55 AM
I could see that happening
LuigiBlood 5/1/2018 12:40 PM
I guess he's finnished
5
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Jhynjhiruu 5/1/2018 12:40 PM
hehe
Deleted User 5/1/2018 1:09 PM
Who likes Brawl in the Family?
🐮 5/1/2018 1:09 PM
I do!
Deleted User 5/1/2018 1:10 PM
DM me for something cool btw
1:10 PM
I couldn't for some reason
🐮 5/1/2018 1:16 PM
You couldn't like it for some reason?
Deleted User 5/1/2018 1:17 PM
I mean
1:17 PM
I couldn't DM at first
1:17 PM
But now I can
🐮 5/1/2018 1:25 PM
Ah. :)
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/1/2018 1:57 PM
does anyone know what the actor id for lizaflos in twilight princess gamecube is?
Hiccup 5/1/2018 1:58 PM
probably cloudmodding wiki/irc/discord/googledrive does (edited)
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/1/2018 2:03 PM
cloudmodding doesn't have twilight princess
Hiccup 5/1/2018 2:16 PM
the private spreadsheet does
2:16 PM
i've said too much
Nex 5/1/2018 2:19 PM
2:20 PM
I fear I have left too much unsaid, take care on the long road
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/1/2018 2:28 PM
@Hiccup if there is a spreadsheet that says what its actor id is than tell me
Hiccup 5/1/2018 2:31 PM
I don't know if I'm supposed to share the URL, sorry. I recommend you ask GlitterBerri or post on one of the CloudModding discussion things (forum, irc, discord)
2:31 PM
Probably get the best results with irc/discord
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/1/2018 2:33 PM
just tell me the id
2:35 PM
the id for the masked lizaflos so i can replace the scarecrow with it
Hiccup 5/1/2018 2:47 PM
okay
2:52 PM
there doesn't seem to be an actor table. best to ask on the #zelda irc / cloudmodding discord (edited)
Wizzkidwas 5/1/2018 3:05 PM
Peeks in
3:05 PM
Hello!
Dezent 5/1/2018 3:55 PM
Ohai
moonie 5/1/2018 4:04 PM
4:04 PM
Found this in a 5$ bin the other day...
4:05 PM
... But I don't even own a PSP : P
Jhynjhiruu 5/1/2018 4:36 PM
hmm
4:36 PM
seems like ique mario stores chinese characters in halves
punk7890 5/1/2018 6:05 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice job!
Andreelikes 5/1/2018 6:16 PM
https://zenhax.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7798
6:17 PM
Any unused content found in the .lng files?
Sunk 5/1/2018 6:24 PM
still nothing regarding dq8, punk?
punk7890 5/1/2018 6:26 PM
nope. I couldn't get the premium disc's elf file to boot on a retail disc either
Sunk 5/1/2018 6:27 PM
might be a lose situation after all
punk7890 5/1/2018 6:28 PM
possibly :<
6:32 PM
I'll probably have a look at DC2 sometime since it has function labels. Might be easier to track down if it is at all possible to load stuff from the dbg folder.
6:38 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/991446616698638336
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found extra debug menus in the E3 version of Mega Man X: Command Mission. These aren't present in the final version of the game. It contains some type of editor, what appears to be a GFX test room, and an effect viewer? Codes are on my TCRF pa...
6:38 PM
Sunk 5/1/2018 6:40 PM
DC2 does have some labels related to debug. I hope it's the right file I'm looking at (the SCES one)
punk7890 5/1/2018 6:41 PM
are those not on tcrf?
6:42 PM
hmm I don't see that anywhere on tcrf
6:43 PM
it's probably stuff not documented
Sunk 5/1/2018 6:43 PM
I don't think it's worth being there. I honestly have no idea how ps2's assembly works. I just opened the "SCES_511.90" file in ps2dis
punk7890 5/1/2018 6:53 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ you could probably just make a page Proto:Mega_Man_X4 for now if you want. I think that would be acceptable.
6:54 PM
unless maybe those debug menus are in the final version as well
punk7890 5/1/2018 7:05 PM
@Sunk how do you extract the DATA.DAT archive in DC2? The DQ8 extractor doesn't work.
Sunk 5/1/2018 7:05 PM
there's a quickbms script
7:06 PM
http://aluigi.altervista.org/bms/dark_cloud.bms
punk7890 5/1/2018 7:06 PM
thanks
Sunk 5/1/2018 7:06 PM
it can't repack though
punk7890 5/1/2018 7:07 PM
that's fine
7:10 PM
hm I don't see anything too interesting in that game's dbg folder. Just looks like item names
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/1/2018 7:50 PM
theres some presumably unused dialogue in patapon 3's multiplayer beta for a cutscene
7:51 PM
presumably because its nearly impossible to complete the demo now, unless you got 4 psps in total to play together until the end
7:52 PM
my favorite bit of dialogue in it says `W e a r e b u s y p a c k i n g t h e f i n a l g a m e f u l l o f u n c o m p r o m i s e d f u n a n d e x c i t e m e n t ! L o o k f o r w a r d t o a n e n g r o s s i n g e x p e r i e n c e !`
7:52 PM
haha
7:52 PM
engrossing
7:52 PM
uncompromised
Xkeeper 5/1/2018 7:53 PM
tcrf status update thread:
7:53 PM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/991421315335663616
🌸 X/Revya 🌸 (@xkeepah)
https://t.co/0zjI4H0xM5
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Paulweeze71 5/1/2018 7:53 PM
Nex 5/1/2018 7:57 PM
punk, finder of debug menus
Laenthor 5/1/2018 7:58 PM
Is there a day when @punk7890 doesn't find another debug menu? Seriously, thanks for your hard work!
leilei 5/1/2018 7:58 PM
my favorite advisor was the notNickOfferman that gets booed
GerbilSoft 5/1/2018 7:59 PM
:V
7:59 PM
you can't cut back on DDoSing!
7:59 PM
you will regret this
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Laenthor 5/1/2018 7:59 PM
But uh, @Xkeeper , are there any updates concerning the hosting of the website? I seem to recall you guys looking for a new hosting service.
leilei 5/1/2018 7:59 PM
and angry eric clapton
Xkeeper 5/1/2018 8:00 PM
@Laenthor it's not so much new hosting service as much as it is just time & energy right now. unfortunately work has been leaving me a dried-out husk of a person
8:00 PM
speaking of, time to leave work
8:00 PM
happy 5p m
Laenthor 5/1/2018 8:00 PM
Happens to the best of us, keep it up
GerbilSoft 5/1/2018 8:03 PM
i'm going to use a 'free' USB analyzer on my XP VM to see what happens when i connect the Nintendo NDEV
8:03 PM
specifically, what commands it sends to load the firmware
goat 5/1/2018 8:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/991465144617074688
Wario64 (@Wario64)
Disgaea 5 Complete PC demo is apparently the full game. 46k Steam keys left. Will probably work until they fix/revoke the demo https://t.co/KDrjJ3eUsW https://t.co/D0V6LfmDEg
leilei 5/1/2018 8:07 PM
is it really that hard to strip data for a demo
Deleted User 5/1/2018 8:07 PM
tbh
leilei 5/1/2018 8:07 PM
like, doing some debug output to file of which files are loaded during a full demo play and just packing that (edited)
Deleted User 5/1/2018 8:08 PM
this is what they get for making people download a massive demo
8:08 PM
same shit happened with Yakuza 6 on PS4, the demo was the full game so it was like a 35GB download or something stupid
8:12 PM
merp https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/991470073691832320
Wario64 (@Wario64)
Disgaea 5 PC Demo goes up to chapter 3, so not really an error after all https://t.co/nXdT4cbVZ7
leilei 5/1/2018 8:14 PM
coughDoom2016 free weekendscough
goat 5/1/2018 8:18 PM
oh okay
darkwitchclaire 5/1/2018 8:19 PM
Or when Sega accidentally released a Daytona update which contained the entire game
punk7890 5/1/2018 8:19 PM
@Laenthor no problem. Glad other people like what I do.
Laenthor 5/1/2018 8:20 PM
Deleted User 5/1/2018 8:23 PM
anyone up for some JP -> EN translation
8:23 PM
probably a few sentences worth
☎ 5/1/2018 8:31 PM
The Disgaea 5 demo only goes up until chapter 3. It's not the full game afaik unless for some reason the rest of the chapters are actually present
Deleted User 5/1/2018 8:36 PM
they probably are present, but not accessible
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/1/2018 8:41 PM
actually since ehm helped me with my text problem i may need a bit of help translating too
8:42 PM
`ばばばばばびゅ` im pretty sure this is just laughing?
8:42 PM
the repeated sounds give me that impression
Deleted User 5/1/2018 8:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iaV0ngGRKw
LryLry - LqtezModz
あばばばばばばばばばばば
divingkxt 5/1/2018 9:19 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ Put those in the prototype page.
9:20 PM
I think these are also in the final US version, albeit even more broken to the point you need to hack the game extensively or use a patch to use them at all.
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/1/2018 9:51 PM
"Proto:Mega Man 8 (PlayStation)"? Game is "Rockman 8 Trial" in disc "Rockman X4 Trial".
divingkxt 5/1/2018 10:03 PM
Yes.
10:04 PM
Even if the Rockman X4 and Rockman 8 trials are on the same disc
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/1/2018 10:05 PM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 Where use that text? It seems onomatopoeia of fly out something.
10:05 PM
@divingkxt thank you!
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/1/2018 10:13 PM
Oh yeah that makes sense
10:14 PM
In the English version one of the last texts for jumping up in the air is "Zoooooom!"
10:14 PM
The one after that is `US__NO__DATA`
10:14 PM
I was just wondering if the devs were laughing at me in japanese
10:15 PM
wwwwwwww
GoodTofuFriday 5/1/2018 11:29 PM
Maybe you all can answer this. Ive been converting battery save gba games to fram saves for metroid and battle network. I have been using yugioh world wide as a donor cart as its cheap
11:29 PM
But
11:29 PM
11:29 PM
This game used 4 differenr pcbs
11:29 PM
Why do pcb revisions exist outside of battery -> fram
Neko May 5/1/2018 11:42 PM
Sometimes problems are discovered in a PCB that have to be fixed
11:42 PM
Often it'll be to cut a component or two off the board to try to save a hundredth of a cent per board
11:43 PM
Sometimes it can be an original part no longer being available, and having to be replaced with a similar one
11:44 PM
Occasionally it'll be for no particular reason
11:45 PM
Often you'll see boards with post-manufacturing rework, they'll have jump wires connecting various things or an extra component bodged on somewhere
11:46 PM
Those obviously get a revision, since rework is expensive
11:46 PM
But it would be more expensive to junk a run of 10000 boards that just need a bodge wire or two
GoodTofuFriday 5/1/2018 11:47 PM
the by11-01 and-02 boards are def the more common later year boards. im more surprised as its been touted that they were not compatable with each other. the dumps of the roms on the games all match, so they didnt even change anything.
11:47 PM
and trust me i know a lot about after production bodges
Neko May 5/1/2018 11:47 PM
The ROMs themselves could be different
GoodTofuFriday 5/1/2018 11:48 PM
sega teradrive has a ton
11:48 PM
i dumped them
Neko May 5/1/2018 11:48 PM
Nintendo was known to use custom pinout ROMs
GoodTofuFriday 5/1/2018 11:48 PM
and they are the same HEX wise
Neko May 5/1/2018 11:48 PM
If their supplier stops making those, or they don't care anymore, they'll switch to a standard part to save money
11:49 PM
This absolutely requires a brand new board
GoodTofuFriday 5/1/2018 11:49 PM
hm that sounds like the case here. this game was on the market a while
11:50 PM
-clicks- hey. I suppose that the combination of smd caps they have on the later boards is to make it compatable to the old board
Neko May 5/1/2018 11:50 PM
Possibly. The other parts could assist with that, too.
GoodTofuFriday 5/1/2018 11:51 PM
hm ill need to look at the fram data sheets then. thats possible
11:51 PM
on the 5v, 3.3v
Neko May 5/1/2018 11:52 PM
Eh, I said that, but the I/O would need to be converted too
11:52 PM
Some 3V3 parts have 5V tolerant inputs, but the outputs are always 3V3 (edited)
GoodTofuFriday 5/1/2018 11:54 PM
for gameboy color there are a number of fram mods that could do 3.3 or 5v
Neko May 5/1/2018 11:54 PM
Hm.
GoodTofuFriday 5/1/2018 11:54 PM
i should say fram chips
11:54 PM
but the system ran them an 3.3v
11:54 PM
or the other way around. been a while since i read into that
Neko May 5/1/2018 11:55 PM
Only place I've used FRAM is in TI's MSP430 MCUs
11:56 PM
Haven't used discrete chips before
GoodTofuFriday 5/1/2018 11:58 PM
can you dump custom mcus by chance
11:58 PM
or maybe recognize one i havent been able to figure out the spi pins for
Laenthor 5/2/2018 12:45 AM
woah, just found some dialog from James and Lily Potter in HP3 on PC. It's not in the audio archive but it's in the debug sound test. This is my top priority from now on
12:46 AM
Thank god I looked at this thing... Now I just have to find where that actual audio file is and I have no clue where to start.
12:47 AM
That explains the voldemort lines I already posted on the subpage.
12:48 AM
Also James sounds really weird. He sounds like JackScepticEye
divingkxt 5/2/2018 1:03 AM
http://download-cdn.miitomo.com/native/20180125111639/manifests/v2_20180405_3_android/manifest.json
1:03 AM
Anyone want to dig through Manifest?
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:09 AM
@GoodTofuFriday: Custom MCUs as in Mask ROM? Those are typically dumped by decapping them, taking a photo of the ROM array and transcribing it.
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:13 AM
Ff17 alcode a romcode r003
1:13 AM
https://i.imgur.com/LG1EM5o.jpg
1:13 AM
https://i.imgur.com/IceF507.jpg
1:13 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Qmd8SKJ.jpg
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:14 AM
Yeah, they're decapped, photographed and transcribed.
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:14 AM
This is me
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:14 AM
Oh, cool
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:14 AM
And thats where my skill for it stops
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:14 AM
Ah, you need a microscope with a good camera
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:14 AM
I got what was etched into it but no results
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:15 AM
And the ability to stitch images together
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:15 AM
So spend more money
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:15 AM
What you do at that point is magnify and photograph the Mask ROM array
1:16 AM
Stitch the images together as seamlessly as possible
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:16 AM
I see. Yeah thats just a basic microsope that had a setting only good enough to read the etching
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:16 AM
Then transcribe, either by hand or with an automated tool, the contents of the ROM
1:17 AM
Yeah, you'll need more power
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:17 AM
Thats where i will need to read up. Never did transcribing? But always looking to push what i know
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:17 AM
You can ask in #mame on Freenode, MAME has been doing this for years.
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:18 AM
Will the have recomendations on a good scope?
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:19 AM
Basically, the ROM programming is a single custom bit of the photomask that's applied to a generic MCU. Because it's mask programmed, you can determine by eye which bits are connected and which aren't
1:19 AM
They might
1:20 AM
You can also ask people like @johndmcmaster on Twitter
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:20 AM
i understand what you said but that seems like a serious jump ftom my current work flow
1:21 AM
Will def ask him
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:21 AM
Well, determining what the MCU is is also important
1:22 AM
You should be able to do that with what you have
1:22 AM
Provided there are meaningful markings on the die
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:22 AM
My end goal with that would be to dump the contents of a gba acssesory use for megaman games. The toy above used the same "chips" the megaman acessory does
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:23 AM
But the gold mine is obviously the ROM contents
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:23 AM
Ff17 alcode a romcode r003 <- that was the only thing on the die
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:23 AM
Hm, doesn't mean anything to me. :/
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:23 AM
Nor the internet. Which is why i think its custom (edited)
1:24 AM
But thanks for the info. Ill def go poking in those places
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:24 AM
nods
1:24 AM
You're welcome. :3
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:25 AM
I do have a manufacturer too. Just difficult when these were madr in japan and simply licensed state side (edited)
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:25 AM
Sometimes the ROM dump can be used to determine what the MCU is.
1:25 AM
If it's a known type of MCU.
GoodTofuFriday 5/2/2018 1:26 AM
That would be great. There is a lot of sprite artwork id like to get off these toys. They are unique to them and not used in the actual game
Neko May 5/2/2018 1:27 AM
nods
Deleted User 5/2/2018 2:59 AM
Sometimes I get motivation to do a prerelease article on Sonic Unleashed
3:00 AM
And then I go to TCRF.net and then motivation takes a hellish nosedive and "uhhhhh" ensues
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/2/2018 3:05 AM
ehh
3:06 AM
babysteps
3:06 AM
just collect all the material you can, split them to logical pieces like months and by level
3:07 AM
go from there
3:09 AM
“collecting material” does take you to the neverending hole of tracking down press kits for original unwatermarked and uncompressed screenshots
leilei 5/2/2018 3:10 AM
i still haven't found all the 1998 q3 prerelease shots in pristine condition
3:10 AM
the ones i upped to tcrf were salvaged from a random fan site that lasted a couple months in 1999 :V
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/2/2018 3:10 AM
wew
leilei 5/2/2018 3:10 AM
and i still don't have the early curved surfaces shots etc
3:11 AM
plenty of writing about which discussed the then current state of the 'game' though, with bad sounds, 1 gun, and only id people as models
3:11 AM
sorry ofr hijackin but yeah organize and find
3:12 AM
i usually sort things in folders like q3-prerel/ for some few rare scraped jpegs, and then procrastinate a ton because i may forget the obligatory tags from not contributing in a while (edited)
leilei 5/2/2018 7:01 AM
i forgot how rough the animations and models in some of these early tamsoft simple2000s are
7:01 AM
#55 especially
7:04 AM
the shoulder modeling isn't the best
Laenthor 5/2/2018 8:22 AM
Found the clip. This is not harry's dad XD
punk7890 5/2/2018 8:29 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/991655739197345792
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Time Crisis: Crisis Zone (PS2) https://t.co/i5la2SH2sh This contains a sound test and memory card test functions. Not much else appears to work.
8:29 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/2/2018 8:31 AM
nice!
FMecha 5/2/2018 8:48 AM
Looks like it's modeled after operator menu
Neko May 5/2/2018 11:33 AM
Probably straight ported from the arcade.
11:33 AM
It doesn't boot in MAME last I checked, unfortunately.
goat 5/2/2018 1:11 PM
apparently all Sony PS4/Vita devs get the same unity key
🐮 5/2/2018 3:47 PM
I want to know how exactly that person obtained the information.
Deleted User 5/2/2018 3:47 PM
wut
🐮 5/2/2018 3:47 PM
"apparently all Sony PS4/Vita devs get the same unity key"
3:48 PM
https://twitter.com/SiIicaAndPina/status/991666633469906944
Silica (@SiIicaAndPina)
SOOOO Turns out, sony gives the EXACT SAME UNITY KEY to EVERY USER ON DEVNET I3-M7AD-279S-X79U-FPTT-854R - Vita and PS4. HAVE FUN :D
3:48 PM
I'm having some trouble believing everything he says since he has a very negative reputation in the Vita hacking community
3:48 PM
He also likes watching females die and he laughed at me when my grandfather passed away
3:48 PM
That's not related to this channel though so sorry for that
3:49 PM
For mentioning it off-topic I mean
Deleted User 5/2/2018 3:52 PM
it's alright, gives context to the person and your point
3:52 PM
that sucks
goat 5/2/2018 4:00 PM
He's a dumb creepy fucker but he hasn't been too wrong lately
🐮 5/2/2018 4:53 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PlaystationHome/comments/8ezt0c/playstation_home_preservation/ Oh my stars and heavens
Playstation Home Preservation • r/PlaystationHome
EDIT NOTE: From comments and PMs, some people seem to be confused that this is just an archival project. It is not, and I would not be doing...
4:57 PM
It's finally happening...
🐮 5/2/2018 5:05 PM
I know of this because I was apparently contacted by Megalia1 seven days ago. I just did not know because I logged into Reddit today for the first time in months.
5:05 PM
I guess this was fated.
leilei 5/2/2018 5:51 PM
ah, sentient anime characters on twitter why am i not surprised (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/2/2018 5:57 PM
So idk if anyone posted this here or not (it's about 6 months old now) but there was a jet set radio game that was turned down by sega (edited)
5:57 PM
https://youtu.be/3gc9qq55BiQ
dinogamedev
Jet Set Radio Evolution: Visual Proof of Concept - Dinosaur Games
leilei 5/2/2018 5:59 PM
SEGA! (edited)
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2
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5:59 PM
^96 scream
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/2/2018 6:00 PM
They should probably pitch the game again after Sonic mania did so well
Evil Sonic 5/2/2018 6:20 PM
Finally added my findings to this page https://tcrf.net/Conker:_Live_%26_Reloaded
Conker:Live%26_Reloaded
6:21 PM
Wasn't sure about the demo disc stuff, I thought it wasn't enough for its own page but if that should be on its own page I'll move them
Evil Sonic 5/2/2018 6:41 PM
Now, if only ripping textures/models from that game was possible we'd have images on that page
6:41 PM
They're most likely just references, but I do still wonder if there really are left over models from when it was Live and Uncut
Deleted User 5/2/2018 6:44 PM
ripping textures is possible, just a pain
6:47 PM
actually I forgot a whole bunch of the data has custom compression
6:47 PM
lol
6:49 PM
Evil Sonic 5/2/2018 6:54 PM
Would it make sense to include the Live-exclusive graafitti textures (if we can get them) onto the page? They seem to be impossible to get now
6:55 PM
How'd you get that image?
Deleted User 5/2/2018 7:15 PM
converted from raw DXT data
7:15 PM
some files are left uncompressed in the game, but most have compression
7:15 PM
`CAFF28.01.05.0031`
7:15 PM
this fun stuff
Evil Sonic 5/2/2018 7:16 PM
very fun
7:16 PM
I'm assuming all the loading/tip screens are uncompressed then?
Deleted User 5/2/2018 7:22 PM
backgroundBoot / backgroundFuture (pictured above) / backgroundSHCWin, and an icon for Death
7:22 PM
that's what I have saved here right now
7:22 PM
there's probably some other uncompressed stuff
punk7890 5/2/2018 7:58 PM
hi
Deleted User 5/2/2018 7:58 PM
o/
s0lo 5/2/2018 8:48 PM
how do i look into wii wads
Neko May 5/2/2018 9:12 PM
waves to @Luna 🌸
9:13 PM
^w^
s0lo 5/2/2018 9:56 PM
but how do i dump some of the wad files
Laenthor 5/2/2018 10:49 PM
Wow, I never noticed how they didn't make a proper artwork for Ron and just used a cropped model pic XD
10:49 PM
Or they put lighting on his face, whatever, it doesn't look like the other 2
Δndrew P. 5/2/2018 10:51 PM
Mood
Laenthor 5/2/2018 10:54 PM
What's the point of only editing todo tags?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/3/2018 12:04 AM
https://tcrf.net/Happy_Wheels_(Adobe_Flash) someone should look into the demo versions
Happy Wheels (Adobe Flash)
12:04 AM
Supposedly, the 1.52 demo has two weapons not in the full game
12:04 AM
Sadly I can't find said demo anywhere
s0lo 5/3/2018 12:14 AM
funny how every unblocked site has the happy wheels demo version instead
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/3/2018 12:15 AM
it would basically be impossible to host the full version lmao
12:15 AM
technical and legal reasons
s0lo 5/3/2018 12:15 AM
full version swf
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/3/2018 12:15 AM
The full game isn't one SWF file
12:15 AM
it's broken up into multiple SWF files for all the assets and characters
12:16 AM
and sound effects
s0lo 5/3/2018 12:16 AM
like club penguin
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/3/2018 12:16 AM
ye
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/3/2018 12:34 AM
sadly i can't find the 1.52 demo anywhere
FMecha 5/3/2018 3:22 AM
https://www.gtplanet.net/a-mysterious-car-ticket-system-is-showing-up-in-gt-sport/ It happened again
Brendan Rorrison
A Mysterious Car Ticket System is Showing up in GT Sport
Alongside the documented changes found in the latest GT Sport update, there are naturally some hidden features to be found too. These can be minor tweaks here and there but…
Dezent 5/3/2018 3:22 AM
Car tickets, eh?
3:23 AM
That reminds me of GT5
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/3/2018 3:42 AM
https://twitter.com/ucchii16b/status/991909791948664832
Ucchii (@ucchii16b)
メガドライブ開発機 元コン◯イルの方から譲り受けたと記憶しております。 有効利用出来る方いらっしゃいますでしょうか？ #メガドライブ #レトロコンシューマー愛好会
3:42 AM
oof
Deleted User 5/3/2018 9:42 AM
welcome! I found unused content in a game that has no TCRF page
9:42 AM
and there's quite a bit of it
Dezent 5/3/2018 9:44 AM
Noice noice, head over to #account-requests if you want to start on your journey to documenting it
Deleted User 5/3/2018 9:48 AM
9:48 AM
unused map screen from Komiko Kids
9:48 AM
there are 6 screens like this, all of them have complete paths and lead correctly to the next room, which means that if they were on their places in the room order, they would lead to cutscenes (edited)
9:48 AM
my guess for the reason why they're scrapped: they look like shit compared to the rest of the game
9:51 AM
decompiling game maker games is so much fun
9:51 AM
indie games usually have more hidden content than AAA stuff
9:53 AM
unused font
9:53 AM
the game uses a stylized font
9:54 AM
I forced the game to use the unused font (Arial 8) for the dialogue texts
9:54 AM
My guess it's that it was meant as a fallback if the font add routine ("add_font_sprite") fails
9:56 AM
here's the stylized font for comparison
9:57 AM
I also managed to make a patch that lets you turn unused content on and off in the "options" menu (edited)
9:57 AM
options is in quotes because that's the single option I added
10:02 AM
there's a hidden developer's message too
10:02 AM
typing "IMAWESOME" into the cheats menu displays this: "No, you're not."
10:03 AM
also, are all mods dead or what
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/3/2018 10:03 AM
1) it's alive-dead, both
Deleted User 5/3/2018 10:04 AM
i can't wait for my account
10:05 AM
I found a lot of unused content in all games by that dude
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/3/2018 10:09 AM
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10:09 AM
I found debug menu in Simple 1500 series Vol.68 The RC car RC de GO! (edited)
Deleted User 5/3/2018 10:10 AM
Oh, nice!
10:10 AM
what does it allow to do?
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/3/2018 10:11 AM
Use the code to display this menu. 80031D74 C763 80031D76 0800
Deleted User 5/3/2018 10:13 AM
oh, thanks. Gonna check it out (edited)
10:17 AM
you've got a nice gem here @Athena 悠里マヤ
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/3/2018 10:30 AM
thank you!
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/3/2018 11:01 AM
In US version: 800323A4 C8EF 800323A6 0800
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/3/2018 11:06 AM
God I wish it was easier to find the loading groups in patapon 3
Neko May 5/3/2018 1:22 PM
@Deleted User: That "stylized" font is Chicago from MacOS.
Deleted User 5/3/2018 1:28 PM
well, it's imported as a sprite ingame
1:28 PM
@Neko May thanks for info
Neko May 5/3/2018 1:30 PM
You're welcome. :3
Deleted User 5/3/2018 1:54 PM
are mods asleep?
Neko May 5/3/2018 1:57 PM
Just be patient. They'll get to your request.
Dezent 5/3/2018 1:58 PM
Unfortunately, all of them have passed away on the same minute
1:58 PM
;p
Neko May 5/3/2018 1:59 PM
It's the middle of the workday in NA.
s0lo 5/3/2018 3:02 PM
doki doki panic
Deleted User 5/3/2018 3:38 PM
I'm gonna leave some secrets too if I'll be making a game someday, for the TCRF community to find
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/3/2018 3:49 PM
But
3:49 PM
leaving hidden things on purpose is just Easter eggs I think (edited)
Δndrew P. 5/3/2018 5:31 PM
Unless it’s genuinely used for test purposes and it was left there by accident i guess
Revenant 5/3/2018 5:36 PM
easter eggs are generally fine if they're not extremely well known
5:37 PM
however content about easter eggs or "unused content" that are specifically shout outs to TCRF or whatever will be deleted
5:37 PM
people have attempted to do this with their own amateur games to basically use TCRF as free advertising
leilei 5/3/2018 5:46 PM
yeah i hate that stuff. 'look at my unused memes'
5:48 PM
tcrf typically covers oversights
5:48 PM
the sooner the shipping schedule, the better
5:48 PM
or the more involvement the better (edited)
Paulweeze71 5/3/2018 5:50 PM
leilei 5/3/2018 5:50 PM
YOU'RE WINNER !!
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leilei 5/3/2018 6:10 PM
opensource games could be an exemption for tcrfing. many have unused stuff for compatibility purposes or shutting up warnings for the 'a warning is a bug' mindset
6:10 PM
unless, unless they're totally dead/finished and rotting in everyone's apts (edited)
6:10 PM
like eat the whistle and pingus
6:12 PM
wonder how the Pingus devs feel when there's a page that showcases their non-Free junk left in there (edited)
6:17 PM
would probably be insulted the effort taken to cover it wasn't spent on "submitting a patch" etc
6:19 PM
and most versions of most of them are technically an early prototype :V
Deleted User 5/3/2018 6:21 PM
Seriously, what about devs who deliberately leave their unused content thinking "this will be on TCRF"
Smoke 5/3/2018 6:21 PM
12 year olds
Revenant 5/3/2018 6:22 PM
if it's stuff that was actually involved in the development of the game then that's fine
6:22 PM
don't just put random crap in there that you'd never actually use just so you can get your game on the wiki later
leilei 5/3/2018 6:22 PM
shoves in subscribe to my roblox minecraft lets play youtube textures
Deleted User 5/3/2018 6:30 PM
I leave unused content for TCRFers to find. I don't delete unused stuff and for example my game contains an old unused sprite of a chest.
6:31 PM
There's a new chest sprite now, with the old sprite intact in the files (edited)
leilei 5/3/2018 6:32 PM
i have unused content in my stuff but it wasn't left there for tcrf because tcrf didn't exist yet
6:32 PM
post-tcrf i've learned to have foresight to weed things out from reading articles about the many many mistakes and oversights (edited)
Revenant 5/3/2018 6:33 PM
@Deleted User yeah, stuff like that is fine
leilei 5/3/2018 6:44 PM
oh back on topic of obscure easter eggs, does that mean the "special" fuck dialogue stuff in the original GTA is qualified? (edited)
6:46 PM
i.e.
Revenant 5/3/2018 6:47 PM
for those of us who haven't played the original GTA, what's special about it
leilei 5/3/2018 6:47 PM
gta normally says 'if you mess up, we mess you up' here
Revenant 5/3/2018 6:47 PM
oh
6:48 PM
easter eggs are kind of a case-by-case thing, i probably wouldn't create an article just for that alone
leilei 5/3/2018 6:48 PM
all this stuff's in special.fxt. this is from a lazy copy special.fxt english.fxt file operation (edited)
6:49 PM
but to get it normally you'd have to use a specific player name, in which it'll only work once per session (edited)
6:50 PM
i don't know if this exists in the console ports or the freeware rerelease (edited)
leilei 5/3/2018 7:00 PM
it's a little odd because they've got audible fucks in some of the soundtrack
punk7890 5/3/2018 7:20 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/992182098394923008
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few debug menus in Code of the Samurai (PS2) https://t.co/EjxtDN9MEE These contain various sound test options and a cutscene viewer. The cutscene viewer is translated, while the rest are only barely translated.
7:20 PM
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Patapon Fanatic #3 5/3/2018 8:33 PM
so uh
8:33 PM
trying to dig into patapon remastered
8:33 PM
not successful yet
8:33 PM
but judging from the name... all they did was port the psp game to ps4, and they didnt rewrite it like they said
Henke37 5/3/2018 8:38 PM
they didn't throw out the entire codebase? how dare they!
Neko May 5/3/2018 8:40 PM
If they said they rewrote it and they didn't, that's bullshit at best and fraud at worst. (edited)
leilei 5/3/2018 8:43 PM
Source engine is written from scratch
8:44 PM
Skyrim uses an all new engine
GerbilSoft 5/3/2018 8:46 PM
Windows 10 is rewritten from scratch
8:46 PM
:Lenny:
Neko May 5/3/2018 8:46 PM
I'm just saying, if you make claims that aren't true, that's fraudulent. Not commenting on any other part of the situation.
leilei 5/3/2018 8:46 PM
John Carmack stole code from to use in vr by learning how to google
Revenant 5/3/2018 8:52 PM
where does it say that patapon remastered is a rewrite
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/3/2018 8:57 PM
well
8:57 PM
its not 100 percent apparent
8:57 PM
butttt
8:57 PM
you have psp resolution cutscenes
8:57 PM
content ID is UP9000-CUSA06171_00-UCUS987110000001
8:57 PM
psp ID is UCUS98711
8:58 PM
they didnt increase the framerate from the original game
8:58 PM
etc etc
9:03 PM
honestly i suck at extracting pkg files so it might take a while
Deleted User 5/4/2018 4:51 AM
How do I call the page? Komiko Kids? Komiko Kids (Windows)? Komiko Kids: Billy's Quest for Cash?
Mine18 5/4/2018 5:02 AM
I think the template will make the page title for you
Deleted User 5/4/2018 6:01 AM
Can someone make me a page for Komiko Kids with the title screen & data template? I don't know how to
6:05 AM
how do you create a new page on TCRF
Deleted User 5/4/2018 6:24 AM
There are also help sections and guidelines on the left sidebar
6:24 AM
Find an existing page and copy its source wiki code
6:26 AM
okay, I found a tutorial
6:26 AM
how do I add a title screen image?
6:29 AM
Capture the titlescreen according to the image guidelines, upload it, link in article with `|bobscreen= imagename.png`
6:30 AM
how do I upload it, that's the problem
6:31 AM
is an unused map screen unused code, unused graphics or unused cinematics?
6:33 AM
found a whole map screen that went unused in the final game
6:34 AM
If it's a 2d image, graphics.
6:34 AM
yes, but there's some code related to it too, that works
6:34 AM
There's an "upload file" option in the left sidebar
6:34 AM
Unused code as well then. Use both tags
6:36 AM
also how do I upload code pieces if the game was programmed in Game Maker using drag'n drop?
Mine18 5/4/2018 6:37 AM
Wdym by code pieces
Deleted User 5/4/2018 6:37 AM
the code for the map screens
Mine18 5/4/2018 6:38 AM
Just upload it as text?
Deleted User 5/4/2018 6:38 AM
the game uses visual programming
Deleted User 5/4/2018 6:45 AM
https://tcrf.net/Komiko_Kids:_Billy%27s_Quest_for_Cash! okay, the page is created, now I'm gonna fill it with content
Komiko_Kids:_Billy%27s_Quest_for_Cash!
Mine18 5/4/2018 6:47 AM
It's best to add the content while creating the page (edited)
Deleted User 5/4/2018 6:47 AM
Use the preview button constantly
6:54 AM
is this a good format for unused visual programming code?
6:55 AM
found this map screen stuff in decompiled game files
Deleted User 5/4/2018 7:49 AM
should I upload slope masks to Unused Graphics?
7:50 AM
there are collision masks for slopes
Mine18 5/4/2018 7:53 AM
Are they unused?
Deleted User 5/4/2018 7:56 AM
no, the masks aren't
7:56 AM
but they never appear on screen in their raw form
Mine18 5/4/2018 7:57 AM
Well, collision masks don't appear ingamr
Deleted User 5/4/2018 7:57 AM
They're in graphics files
Mine18 5/4/2018 7:58 AM
So they were supposed to be appear like that in-game?
Deleted User 5/4/2018 7:58 AM
No.
Mine18 5/4/2018 7:59 AM
If they weren't supposed to actually show Ingame than I don't think you should document them
Deleted User 5/4/2018 8:16 AM
Can someone make out the text for this message?
Mine18 5/4/2018 8:17 AM
What
8:18 AM
Did you upload the file
Deleted User 5/4/2018 8:18 AM
Yes, but I need the message in the text form too
8:18 AM
`NukeOTron here. Well, the thing is, sure, you beat the game, but you didn't complete all the big goals.` that's what I have
8:19 AM
It's a piece of unused voice acting
Mine18 5/4/2018 8:20 AM
Well you already have the message
Deleted User 5/4/2018 8:20 AM
It's not the full message
8:21 AM
I only have the first 10 seconds or so
8:26 AM
`NukeOTron here. Well, the thing is, sure, you beat the game, but you didn't complete all the big goals. And it's to say [something, please help] really beat the game, you must: 1) Collect over million dollars 2) Collect all the diamonds 3) Collect all the little fuzzies 4) Collect all the blue hearts and 5) Beat the game within 30 minutes on the game clock. I know it sounds tough, but it's possible. And I'm sure(?) of it. Anyway, good luck. You will need it (?).`
8:27 AM
can someone help with the (?) parts?
Mine18 5/4/2018 8:27 AM
"That is to say, in order for you to really beat the game, you must..."
8:28 AM
"I've made sure of it"
8:28 AM
The last part is correct
Deleted User 5/4/2018 8:28 AM
Thanks.
Mine18 5/4/2018 8:28 AM
You're welcome
Deleted User 5/4/2018 8:29 AM
I thought it might qualify for a dev message, but it's unused
Mine18 5/4/2018 8:30 AM
I think it qualifies but I'm not sure
Deleted User 5/4/2018 9:09 AM
https://tcrf.net/Komiko_Kids:_Billy%27s_Quest_for_Cash! I'm done. Is it good for my first page?
Komiko_Kids:_Billy%27s_Quest_for_Cash!
Mine18 5/4/2018 10:06 AM
@Deleted User it's pretty great for a first page but I have one small issue and a bigger issue with it
10:07 AM
The big issue is that you didn't put the audio file of the dev message in the page and the small issue that there's huge unnecessary space in the warpdrive section
10:09 AM
Also try to keep the edits to a minimum
Deleted User 5/4/2018 10:30 AM
I put it in the page.
10:31 AM
maybe the issue is that it's a wav file?
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/4/2018 10:41 AM
Don't upload wav files @Deleted User
10:41 AM
Convert it to ogg
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/4/2018 11:12 AM
vorbis please
Deleted User 5/4/2018 11:14 AM
Why not midi
punk7890 5/4/2018 8:10 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/992556769099501568
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a unused sound test menu in Jangou Simulation Mahjong Dou 64 https://t.co/C0N6DA9mZu The text here is corrupted, however the menu still fully works. You can play BGM, SFX and voices here.
8:10 PM
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divingkxt 5/4/2018 10:26 PM
So nothing much in the N64 Shigesato Itoi fishing game of interest.
10:26 PM
To Mother/Earthbound fans, at least.
10:26 PM
And it seems many of the graphics are uncompressed too.
LazySnake 5/4/2018 11:54 PM
https://youtu.be/iAeaPdog73s
Orange Juice Gaming
Leaked Cards Rascals, Ice Archer, Lava Golem | Heroes: Golden Knig...
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/5/2018 12:28 AM
12:28 AM
I found debug display in The Maid Fuku to Kikanjuu
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/5/2018 12:29 AM
Nice CPU/DMA speed/usage check
ゲームボーイ64 5/5/2018 12:42 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ that's a fun game
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/5/2018 12:50 AM
yeah, I like this game.
ゲームボーイ64 5/5/2018 1:00 AM
though installing it to the HDD with special software seems to block me in a room on stage 3 and I can't play any further, and emulating it brings up a different bunch of problems... (edited)
1:00 AM
mostly the characters being jumbled and looking odd
1:05 AM
http://ichiba.geocities.jp/ysai187/PS2/HDLGameInstaller.htm
1:05 AM
this one
leilei 5/5/2018 1:07 AM
i did check out #88 in pcsx2 for a bit
1:08 AM
i think i'm finally realizing that making everyone wear the same exact bikini set is a running gag of the simple 2000 series (edited)
divingkxt 5/5/2018 1:09 AM
Given how low budget all of the entries are, that is no surprise.
leilei 5/5/2018 1:09 AM
it's also funny in some of the more competitive games (mainly tamsoft) where stock bikinis are the starting costume and you have to unlock their normal costumes. these days, bikini costumes are forms of premium dlc for fighters (edited)
1:12 AM
in the case of mogite mizugi where it's all water games it'll be unlocking the rival's bikini for use
punk7890 5/5/2018 1:36 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice work
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/5/2018 2:12 AM
thank you!
divingkxt 5/5/2018 2:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBVaZM5ZzOU
Vash
Is this clip footage of a cancelled game?
2:57 AM
Remember this from Parasite Eve 2, anyone?
2:57 AM
Because the video uploader is mistaken on this.
Deleted User 5/5/2018 3:05 AM
I never played Parasite Eve
leilei 5/5/2018 3:15 AM
looks like a pitch video for a fmv rebel assaultlike (edited)
3:15 AM
i'm also reminded of davey throws a boomerang
3:16 AM
i don't have pe2, i'm assuming this is dummy data
3:16 AM
it could be anything. could be a bit from a portfolio and not a cancelled anything (edited)
3:18 AM
i can smell the motion splines
3:20 AM
i think dead or alive 2 for the ps2 (at least the japan march 2000 version) had some soccer videos as dummy data iirc (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/5/2018 3:21 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/5/2018 3:31 AM
KAJ is 3D CG create company, Perhaps it was a sample movie. and KAJ developed "Germs: Nerawareta Machi" only. (edited)
divingkxt 5/5/2018 3:37 AM
I wonder if the dev was bought out by Square.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/5/2018 3:58 AM
Is After Burner 2 NEW Ver Rare?
punk7890 5/5/2018 7:53 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/992733945534939136
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Izumo 2: Gakuen Kyousoukyoku - Double Tact (PS2) https://t.co/duHdXhAACo This debug menu can be found in the 2 Aria games and I/O which I posted several weeks ago. Contains BG / sprite viewers, SFX / movie tests, scene te...
7:53 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/5/2018 8:19 AM
nice!
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Jhynjhiruu 5/5/2018 11:49 AM
if anyone can patch any of the ique player roms to enable debugging features, i can run them
Jhynjhiruu 5/5/2018 12:06 PM
so yeah that would be cool
Jhynjhiruu 5/5/2018 12:42 PM
i dont know how to do it myself, so...
glossydon 5/5/2018 12:48 PM
"Link is seen performing a jump strike that was taken out of the final version of the game, but reused in Majora's Mask."
12:49 PM
Where or when is this animation reused in Majora's Mask?
Jhynjhiruu 5/5/2018 12:49 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
glossydon 5/5/2018 12:49 PM
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/A_%2B_C#Actions
A_%2B_C
Deleted User 5/5/2018 1:51 PM
Fierce Deity form?
glossydon 5/5/2018 2:51 PM
I don't remember that being an animation that Fierce Deity Link uses. :/
Gilgamesh 5/5/2018 2:53 PM
o/
2:53 PM
hello
divingkxt 5/5/2018 3:04 PM
Hello.
3:04 PM
About time you finally joined.
Paulweeze71 5/5/2018 3:29 PM
Jhynjhiruu 5/5/2018 4:36 PM
lol, the special cup being called the ique cup in mk64 isnt on the page
divingkxt 5/5/2018 4:37 PM
No surprise, since the iQue version is obscure as hell.
Jhynjhiruu 5/5/2018 4:37 PM
hehe
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/5/2018 4:37 PM
no ones really looking into em
Jhynjhiruu 5/5/2018 4:37 PM
:(
4:38 PM
again, if someone can patch the games to enable debugging features, we can run them now
Dzierzan 5/5/2018 6:37 PM
Hey, I am in middle of preparing page for KKND game and I was thinking. Is it better to seperate graphics per faction or just list everything in "Unused Graphics" section
divingkxt 5/5/2018 6:39 PM
Depends on the number of graphics.
Dzierzan 5/5/2018 6:41 PM
not that much actually
divingkxt 5/5/2018 6:42 PM
I mean, you can easily go for either one.
6:42 PM
I would do the latter though.
Halfbit 5/5/2018 8:27 PM
hi guys
Paulweeze71 5/5/2018 8:29 PM
Halfbit 5/5/2018 8:29 PM
punk7890 5/5/2018 8:37 PM
Paulweeze71 5/5/2018 8:38 PM
punk7890 5/5/2018 8:38 PM
Halfbit 5/5/2018 8:52 PM
Is there a channel for posting music?
divingkxt 5/5/2018 8:54 PM
Not yet.
Nex 5/5/2018 8:54 PM
tfw you want to make a page but there are 10 million other things you need to finish first
Paulweeze71 5/5/2018 8:54 PM
Nex 5/5/2018 8:55 PM
screw you paul!
8:55 PM
paul proto, I shall not forgive you
Paulweeze71 5/5/2018 8:56 PM
I shall not forget you...
Halfbit 5/5/2018 8:56 PM
It's Proto Man!
Nex 5/5/2018 8:57 PM
he has all the builds we dream of
Halfbit 5/5/2018 8:58 PM
Plot twist: Its Ryanskova's father's brother's uncle's cousin (edited)
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Paulweeze71 5/5/2018 8:58 PM
And R&C betaz...
leilei 5/5/2018 8:59 PM
is there an Earl Lee Version?
Paulweeze71 5/5/2018 9:00 PM
old acc! inactive 5/5/2018 9:14 PM
huh
9:15 PM
seems the empty "kokeshi" folder in wii sports was meant for mii graphics
9:15 PM
it probably would've served the same purpose as the kokeshi folder in Common
9:16 PM
and one thing the article forget to mention...
9:16 PM
is this empty folder
9:16 PM
for what might be a scrapped Archery game
leilei 5/5/2018 9:16 PM
or maybe miis are bowing
old acc! inactive 5/5/2018 9:17 PM
leilei 5/5/2018 9:17 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
old acc! inactive 5/5/2018 9:17 PM
oh never mind
9:18 PM
it's just another duplicate folder in Stage
9:18 PM
for bowling
9:18 PM
how lame
GerbilSoft 5/5/2018 9:38 PM
glossydon 5/5/2018 10:25 PM
Spyro 2025 5/6/2018 5:20 AM
Is Pandemonium (Mario Party 9) song truly unused in Mario Party: The Top 100?
5:22 AM
Here's an link for the original Pandemonium: https://youtu.be/4urDcNjNKB8
BrawlBRSTMs3 X
Pandemonium - Mario Party 9 Music Extended
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/6/2018 7:22 AM
time to check CIAs then
Spyro 2025 5/6/2018 7:22 AM
https://youtu.be/eW_eRv4n7HE
gamemusicSTAR
Minigame Theme Pandemonium (Mario Party 9) - Mario Party: The Top ...
Lab Member 5/6/2018 9:58 AM
Hi there. Who can be questioned about kredits on page with unused graphics?
divingkxt 5/6/2018 12:58 PM
What about credits, @Lab Member ?
🐮 5/6/2018 1:43 PM
Hey has anyone dumped the PlayStation Store
1:43 PM
The PS3 version has PS4 files lol
1:44 PM
gift
Deleted User 5/6/2018 2:23 PM
@🐮 which ps store?
🐮 5/6/2018 2:25 PM
Well I use the European one but this seems to be a jumble up of assets from many different regions
Smoke 5/6/2018 2:26 PM
I may have looked through it once
Deleted User 5/6/2018 2:38 PM
I could take a look but im busy at the moment with a CTF competition
divingkxt 5/6/2018 2:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNdTxbRX2A&t=20m12s
Pixelmusement
ADG Episode 236 - Big Red Racing (Game Dungeon Vid)
2:40 PM
Relevant to TCRF.
2:41 PM
Especially the hidden command arguments and the test level.
Jhynjhiruu 5/6/2018 3:03 PM
map select works on ique player
Jhynjhiruu 5/6/2018 3:26 PM
(oot)
leilei 5/6/2018 6:26 PM
i forgot about the debug readouts in that one
6:26 PM
it's been ages, AGES since i really played bigred
6:27 PM
like, 21 years ages
6:27 PM
it's a great lan racer, that's where it really shines (edited)
6:27 PM
and the camera problems the review points out was not all that prevalent on pentium and 486 hardware
6:28 PM
svga mode is also easily findable, i always knew about it too
6:29 PM
also the review could've pointed out some of the nudity in the mars track (edited)
6:30 PM
and the game wasn't really hard to find in stores, at least not hard in CompUSA in 1996 in the US (edited)
6:30 PM
don't know about canada
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 7:18 PM
LOVE this website. Thanks for your work
divingkxt 5/6/2018 7:19 PM
You're welcome.
punk7890 5/6/2018 7:39 PM
Neko May 5/6/2018 7:43 PM
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 7:48 PM
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 7:56 PM
7:56 PM
heres 3 emojiis from the TCRF on a wario game
divingkxt 5/6/2018 7:57 PM
Dig that, ShiggyDiggy sonny boy.
Deleted User 5/6/2018 7:57 PM
those are from Superstar Saga
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 7:58 PM
oh thats right
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 7:58 PM
leilei 5/6/2018 7:58 PM
where's the ds printing money emoji
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:00 PM
8:00 PM
another good emojii courtesy of the site.
Deleted User 5/6/2018 8:01 PM
DKC?
divingkxt 5/6/2018 8:01 PM
Doom.
8:01 PM
Doom 2, IIRC.
leilei 5/6/2018 8:01 PM
doom2 has the burning barrel yes
8:01 PM
can smell the map16 from it and can hear its midi by looking at it (edited)
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:02 PM
8:02 PM
leilei 5/6/2018 8:03 PM
the only videogame emoji i need is.....
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:03 PM
WHOA
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:12 PM
so whats your guy's fav game from a cut content standpoint?
leilei 5/6/2018 8:14 PM
atomic fbomberman (edited)
8:14 PM
though the cutting there was deliberately left in for the curious (edited)
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:15 PM
interesting, looking it up now
8:15 PM
i kinda find the dev message in Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries to be endearing
leilei 5/6/2018 8:15 PM
having 400mb of voice with most of them swearing wasn't an oversight
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:16 PM
lmao
8:16 PM
leilei 5/6/2018 8:16 PM
the only other game that did similar i can think of off the top of my head is Interstate '82
8:17 PM
which tcrf does not cover yet afaik
8:17 PM
and there was the possible potential of nfl blitz pc for doing the same, though no files remain of the swearing
8:17 PM
i do still believe there was a nfl blitz xxx on the pc hidden in midway or pointofview offices (edited)
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:18 PM
whoa
leilei 5/6/2018 8:19 PM
backing this up, the game does recognize an /allswear parameter
EdTheNerd 5/6/2018 8:19 PM
leilei 5/6/2018 8:20 PM
nfl blitz psx sadly lacks any swearing, i've only combed the files and the only remnant i could find is a clipped "CK IS HE DOING?!"
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:21 PM
Hm. interesting. im currently looking at the mario party article
divingkxt 5/6/2018 8:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRNAkFgzWFs
Kombatologist
NBA Jam XXX (SNES) Casual Play
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 8:22 PM
Wasn't that debunked to be fake?
leilei 5/6/2018 8:22 PM
no
8:22 PM
it's been debunked to be real
8:22 PM
tim's 'it's fake' is just saving face
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 8:23 PM
mind is blown
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:23 PM
Tim
8:23 PM
yeah these NSFW voiceclips are gold
leilei 5/6/2018 8:24 PM
hard to claim it's fake when he's said bleeped swears in nfl blitz arcade
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:33 PM
8:36 PM
Starwars Battlefront 2 is super cheap on steam ATM
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/6/2018 8:36 PM
"Get that Shit Out of Here!" was still in the files of the arcade game.
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/6/2018 8:36 PM
Is it the new or old one?
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/6/2018 8:36 PM
Albeit censored.
leilei 5/6/2018 8:36 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/227170552257708032/432793699504619520/File0112.wav
8:38 PM
midway and sports swearing isn't new though
8:38 PM
high impact football has the occasional "you bleep" in 1990 (edited)
8:39 PM
also between the proto and final they added an adjustment option to censor "want to kick some butt?" lol
8:41 PM
keep in mind that is said in the attract mode and the pre-game coin insert
divingkxt 5/6/2018 8:42 PM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 Old.
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/6/2018 8:46 PM
Old bf2 best bf2
leilei 5/6/2018 8:49 PM
my favorite activision game is mw2
divingkxt 5/6/2018 8:49 PM
MechWarrior 2, btw.
Revenant 5/6/2018 8:49 PM
https://twitter.com/pizzaboyfriend/status/992989170565111808
wario (@pizzaboyfriend)
https://t.co/HWdLpPdQei
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DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 8:53 PM
yeah MW2:M
8:53 PM
oh also you lads can get Mechwarrior 4: Mercs for free
8:53 PM
off the abandonware site
8:54 PM
also mechwarrior 4: mercs has supplanted MW3 and MW4:BK as my fav mechwarrior games. it really catches the spirit and gameplay of MW2:M but with better graffix and better overmap. Less mechs than MW2 but more than MW4:M or BK
leilei 5/6/2018 9:03 PM
9:03 PM
i don't believe in abandonware sites
9:04 PM
if you've been a dosbox/pcem tester for ages you'd realize how much conflicting reports broken copies from those sites can lead to (edited)
9:06 PM
especially when dosbox's bin/cue handling doesn't work well for mw2
DeadlyDilemma 5/6/2018 9:06 PM
well this is MW4, different engine and such
cuba200611 5/6/2018 9:16 PM
Speaking of DOS games, all the copies of Prehistorik II that I could find in the net are all cracked by Hybrid...
9:17 PM
And there's about three to four different cracks of Alley Cat floating around in the net - game was originally a PC booter, and had to be hacked so that it could be ran from DOS...
leilei 5/6/2018 9:18 PM
alley cat i've never really seen in the US in the real world (edited)
9:18 PM
it only started to really make the rounds in that silly "oldwarez" movement in 1996
9:19 PM
there's some older scene rips that have been lost to time
9:20 PM
like many of TOADS rips with their splash screens, only the tapper one gets around
cuba200611 5/6/2018 9:21 PM
9:22 PM
9:22 PM
Oldwarez?
9:22 PM
TOADS rips?
leilei 5/6/2018 9:29 PM
the only early ibm game i really saw was donkey (edited)
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 9:29 PM
Castle Adventure
cuba200611 5/6/2018 9:29 PM
Another early IBM game was Shamus...
9:30 PM
Although both Alley Cat and Shamus are ports of Atari 8-bit games...
9:31 PM
Alley Cat, despite being an early IBM PC game, still runs fine on faster CPUs, unlike most of that era...
9:32 PM
(I've tested it on a Compaq laptop that I own which uses a 1.2 GHz Pentium III)
leilei 5/6/2018 9:32 PM
digdug runs fine
9:32 PM
i know i've played pc digdug and c64 digdug
cuba200611 5/6/2018 9:32 PM
IDK what other early PC games run fine on fast CPUs...
leilei 5/6/2018 9:33 PM
i haven't really tried many
9:34 PM
i know a 386sx was too fast for many of them already
Neko May 5/6/2018 9:36 PM
People hardcoding timing loops expecting the PC to never get faster than 4.77MHz
9:37 PM
Even if you ran a 386 at 4.77MHz, it'd still be too fast
cuba200611 5/6/2018 9:37 PM
Yeah, even on a 286, they run like greased lightning...
Neko May 5/6/2018 9:38 PM
Consider that even a "Turbo XT" would run them at least 2x
9:38 PM
One with an 8086 at the same speed, 1.5x
9:38 PM
8086 at double, 3x
Halfbit 5/6/2018 9:44 PM
Hi guys
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 9:48 PM
Halfbit 5/6/2018 9:48 PM
Hewwo
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 9:51 PM
Wats new?
Halfbit 5/6/2018 9:56 PM
Not much
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 9:57 PM
Just got this working...
9:57 PM
9:57 PM
Goofy multicarts
Video 5/6/2018 10:08 PM
what the hell
10:09 PM
is that label
Neko May 5/6/2018 10:12 PM
Mmmm, pirate multicarts.
Halfbit 5/6/2018 10:12 PM
Looks like a prototype
cuba200611 5/6/2018 10:12 PM
It's one of those old bootleg multicarts...
Neko May 5/6/2018 10:12 PM
It's just some random art, probably stolen from something or other
cuba200611 5/6/2018 10:12 PM
They were pretty chunky...
Neko May 5/6/2018 10:14 PM
Well, it's a multiuse board
10:14 PM
This one is clearly one of the cheaper models
10:15 PM
Given the two missing ROMs
10:15 PM
There's likely ones with more games that populate all four positions
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 10:16 PM
I like the reset button
10:16 PM
Only one I have with one
Neko May 5/6/2018 10:17 PM
I didn't know the reset pin went to the cart connector
10:17 PM
Unless it just does something hacky with those logic chips
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 10:18 PM
Could be the case
Neko May 5/6/2018 10:25 PM
The contacts immediately go into VIAs so I can't tell where they go from the picture
10:27 PM
One side almost certainly goes to a power rail, the other, who knows
EdTheNerd 5/6/2018 11:05 PM
oh god
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Neko May 5/6/2018 11:18 PM
?
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 11:21 PM
such a cliffhanger
GerbilSoft 5/6/2018 11:39 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupportgore/comments/8hhomm/trying_to_repair_an_old_gamecube_whenlooks_like/
trying to repair an old GameCube when...looks like whoever owned i...
43 points and 5 comments so far on reddit
11:39 PM
Δndrew P. 5/6/2018 11:41 PM
cursed
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 11:42 PM
Neko May 5/6/2018 11:54 PM
It looks like someone sneezed molten solder onto the board.
ゲームボーイ64 5/6/2018 11:55 PM
a-choo
11:55 PM
dammit, more solder. when will it end?
punk7890 5/6/2018 11:56 PM
hi
Paulweeze71 5/6/2018 11:59 PM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/7/2018 12:09 AM
who the fuck …
DeadlyDilemma 5/7/2018 12:26 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/7/2018 12:45 AM
hi
Neko May 5/7/2018 12:52 AM
Morning
Aistarin 5/7/2018 2:31 AM
hallo
Dezent 5/7/2018 2:47 AM
'ello
MysticSageJosh 5/7/2018 2:55 AM
Kicks open door MASSIVE LEGEND HERE
Dezent 5/7/2018 3:04 AM
bursts through wall absolute unit here
punk7890 5/7/2018 5:26 AM
I think I smell debug
eientei 5/7/2018 5:28 AM
Ew, gross
punk7890 5/7/2018 5:30 AM
I smelt
5:35 AM
2
Jhynjhiruu 5/7/2018 5:36 AM
japan's triumph face is weird
5:36 AM
i seem to remember it being something to do with manga...?
punk7890 5/7/2018 5:37 AM
oh snap
5:37 AM
I think this game has a lot of cheats (edited)
5:38 AM
MysticSageJosh 5/7/2018 5:40 AM
You want to know what sucks?
5:41 AM
when you want to find the power adapter to one of the consoles you never play
5:41 AM
and you CAN'T FIND IT
punk7890 5/7/2018 5:42 AM
I've been there
5:43 AM
bleh too many cheats
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/7/2018 6:49 AM
nice find!
Mine18 5/7/2018 6:50 AM
How can a game have too many cheats?
MysticSageJosh 5/7/2018 6:52 AM
super mario 64's color codes
6:52 AM
nuff said
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 7:01 AM
Does it matter if one capitalizes Postal as POSTAL? I've set it and POSTAL 2 to use their official capitalizations, Postal III doesn't have it.
punk7890 5/7/2018 7:21 AM
@Mine18 "too many cheats" as in, too much stuff to document. It's not bad though, I'll save for later.
Mine18 5/7/2018 7:23 AM
Huh
punk7890 5/7/2018 7:34 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/993454371378577408 (edited)
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a simple debug display in Realm of the Dead (PS2). This shows various system related information.
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7:34 AM
7:35 AM
whoops forgot link
Neko May 5/7/2018 7:35 AM
So who is the rightful mascot of TCRF? Is it SMB2 Smiley Tile or SM64 Cactus Texture? (edited)
7:36 AM
rofl
punk7890 5/7/2018 7:36 AM
agreed
7:36 AM
Can you not react to emots on discord anymore?
Neko May 5/7/2018 7:37 AM
So Creepy-Sexy Proto Ms. Pac-Man
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7:37 AM
@punk7890: Are you getting "Reaction Blocked"?
punk7890 5/7/2018 7:38 AM
Oh, it works now
7:38 AM
I was just dumb, that's all.
Neko May 5/7/2018 7:38 AM
Heh
7:39 AM
I can't leave reactions to anything from @leilei for some reason
7:39 AM
I can't even add to reactions already left by others
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Dezent 5/7/2018 7:42 AM
Simple: the reaction machine is roke
Nex 5/7/2018 7:43 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/7/2018 8:26 AM
8:26 AM
I found hidden Sound Test in SIMPLE 2000 series Vol.36 The Musume Ikusei Simulation. (edited)
Blaring Coder 395 5/7/2018 8:34 AM
I found demo leftovers of this obscure game not many know of.
8:34 AM
8:34 AM
Don't know what this is intended for. Maybe after the piracy screen?
8:37 AM
Apparently, the PAL version was meant to be multi-language. The completed PAL version (dated March 20th 1998) remains only in English.
eientei 5/7/2018 8:45 AM
@BrokenBenny The title's were stylised in upper-case, with Postal 2 being stylised as POSTAL^2. As Wikipedia lists them as "Postal" and "Postal 2" respectively, we should do the same (edited)
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 8:50 AM
@eientei I'm doomed.
eientei 5/7/2018 8:50 AM
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 8:55 AM
Oh look; I made a double redirection! This is all on me. https://tcrf.net/Special:DoubleRedirects
Special:DoubleRedirects
8:57 AM
For someone who's on a quest to get rid of the double redirects on Fire Emblem Heroes Wiki, this process of trying to have Postal's games (sans Postal III) in allcaps was a poor decision.
Blaring Coder 395 5/7/2018 8:58 AM
There's another unused car in Test Drive 6 - the McLaren F1 GTR. There are even early track loading screens:
8:58 AM
8:58 AM
Early title screen, I guess
Dezent 5/7/2018 8:58 AM
Mmmmh Dodge Viper
🐮 5/7/2018 8:59 AM
Nice finds, everyone!
Blaring Coder 395 5/7/2018 8:59 AM
A higher resolution of this image can be found in the PC version and IS USED.
eientei 5/7/2018 8:59 AM
@BrokenBenny Umm... You just overwrote the page with a redirect
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 8:59 AM
Yes, and I know I was insane.
Deleted User 5/7/2018 9:00 AM
was eh
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 9:00 AM
I'm trying to fix the damage I did right now, eientei
eientei 5/7/2018 9:00 AM
Why not ask a mod to move the page (edited)
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 9:00 AM
I thought I wanted to keep the capitalized title.
eientei 5/7/2018 9:00 AM
I'm sure at least @Deleted User can try and fix the damage
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 9:02 AM
Well, at least we now have the redirections for how they're listed on Steam… and Postal Wiki… Such trivial things.
Deleted User 5/7/2018 9:04 AM
what page
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 9:04 AM
._.
9:05 AM
I wanted the TCRF pages for the two Postal games to be in allcaps, but eientei informed me we're doing it like Wikipedia.
Blaring Coder 395 5/7/2018 9:05 AM
The PS1 version of Test Drive 6 features leftovers of 5. There are even unused sounds in the PC version, but are used in other versions: DirtSkid.WAV - Unused, meant for skidding on dirt surface CarRoll.WAV - Used only on PS1 and Dreamcast versions Collect2.WAV, Collect6.WAV, Dying.WAV, Explode1.WAV, Explode2.WAV, Fire.WAV and Sick.WAV are Demolition Racer leftovers. TireCobble.WAV, TireGravel.WAV, TireMud.WAV, TireRub1.WAV, TireRub2.WAV, TireTrack.WAV and TireWtr are surface specific sounds but they're not used at all.
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 9:06 AM
@Deleted User I'm afraid you'll have to fix what I broke, man. I apologize. The intention was good, and it went all downhill instead.
Deleted User 5/7/2018 9:06 AM
what page
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 9:06 AM
The talk pages for Postal 1 and 2.
9:07 AM
"Talk:POSTAL 2" exists, but it cannot be moved to the non-allcaps one.
9:07 AM
Such is also true for "Talk:POSTAL"
9:08 AM
Wait, I'm wrong. The first game is free from troubles.
Deleted User 5/7/2018 9:08 AM
ok they redirect into each other
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 9:09 AM
BreakinBenny done goofed.
9:10 AM
I did at least add the original release date for Postal 2.
9:10 AM
Alright... "Talk:POSTAL 2" should be "Talk:Postal 2". (edited)
9:11 AM
I don't have permission to do this procedure
9:11 AM
Feel free to get rid of "Talk:Postal 2 Complete" if you wish.
9:12 AM
If it still isn't gone
9:13 AM
It's impressive how Postal 1 was obviously shocking, while Postal 2 is more subtle and surprising about it.
Deleted User 5/7/2018 9:13 AM
sophomore syndrome
9:14 AM
anyways going afk, try not to do that again for a couple of hours
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 9:33 AM
I've been looking inside The Stanley Parable's _master.cache after learning The Beginner's Guide had things to hide in its own one.
9:35 AM
It lists a number of files present in The Beginner's Guide.
9:36 AM
It's clear that The Beginner's Guide started development months before The Stanley Parable's final release.
9:37 AM
Sounds up until 7. Down are mentioned in TSP
Blaring Coder 395 5/7/2018 10:29 AM
There's a hidden sound test in Hybrid which can be found by inputting the code QC ten times and the asterisk symbol ten times at the password screen.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/7/2018 11:01 AM
who wants to start a team with me to remake twilight princess beta?
Nex 5/7/2018 11:10 AM
beta
11:10 AM
angery
11:11 AM
I'm already a beta, get on my level
Paulweeze71 5/7/2018 11:11 AM
Remake Nex [Beta Version]
Revenant 5/7/2018 11:11 AM
real TCRF heads are already remaking the metroid prime beta
Paulweeze71 5/7/2018 11:12 AM
Also, anyone got R&C betaz for trade?
11:12 AM
FMecha 5/7/2018 11:14 AM
I still need that CLK-GTR/SSR11 GT2 demo build
Deleted User 5/7/2018 11:36 AM
send promo video to the press on betamax
Paulweeze71 5/7/2018 11:41 AM
Superbetaz
Deleted User 5/7/2018 12:22 PM
oh wait this is #tcrf
Netscape Navigator 5/7/2018 1:05 PM
this is the ideal male body. you may not like it but this is what peak program meter looks like
Hiccup 5/7/2018 1:34 PM
@divingkxt I think you may be interested in this. I think you said something about flash game preservation somewhere. https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/317466/Flashpoint_is_archiving_Flash_games_before_they_disappear_forever.php
Flashpoint is archiving Flash games before they disappear forever
Ben Latimore writes about his quest to save Flash games before they disappear.
Smoke 5/7/2018 1:47 PM
Thanks Hiccup
Hiccup 5/7/2018 2:00 PM
it was posted already
2:00 PM
oops
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 4:33 PM
I've looked inside The Stanley Parable's _master.cache, there's practically nothing of interest here compared to what was discovered in its successor. I'm stunned!
4:35 PM
The only knowledge I have is that the ambient_generic entities in testchmb_a_00 require PlaytestFinale_1.wav and PlaytestFinale_2.wav, but since those audio files don't exist the Narrator says nothing when the player drops into the hole the elevator covered.
BrokenBenny 5/7/2018 5:19 PM
Part of the problem however, is that PlaytestFinale_1_00.wav and PlaytestFinale_2_00.wav are not in the soundcache, but their double-zero-less files do!
s0lo 5/7/2018 9:47 PM
how do i upload images to the wiki
divingkxt 5/7/2018 9:48 PM
https://tcrf.net/Special:Upload
Special:Upload
Halfbit 5/7/2018 10:35 PM
Hewwo
Neko May 5/7/2018 10:40 PM
meows
Halfbit 5/7/2018 10:42 PM
Roars
Halfbit 5/7/2018 10:52 PM
farts
ゲームボーイ64 5/7/2018 10:53 PM
canned laughter
10:54 PM
https://youtu.be/_V2sBURgUBI
Theme Guy
Seinfeld Theme
Δndrew P. 5/7/2018 11:06 PM
I have a collection of out-of-context convos here
11:07 PM
11:07 PM
11:08 PM
and the best one
3
Revenant 5/7/2018 11:10 PM
second one = good message/username combo
Δndrew P. 5/7/2018 11:12 PM
Ikr
ecumber 5/7/2018 11:40 PM
i found a test mario animation
11:41 PM
in super mario odyssey
11:41 PM
divingkxt 5/7/2018 11:45 PM
Uh wow...
11:45 PM
That is awfully huge.
11:45 PM
Seems like the unused anims need their own subpage.
11:46 PM
Also, not sure what's up with the long rapid twisting at the end.
Neko May 5/7/2018 11:46 PM
That's a very interesting animation, there....
EdTheNerd 5/7/2018 11:46 PM
This is fine
11:46 PM
Everything's fine.
Revenant 5/7/2018 11:47 PM
are we sure that's actually supposed to be an animation and not just the game applying some garbage to mario's model
Neko May 5/7/2018 11:47 PM
@Revenant: I had the same thought
11:48 PM
It seems to just start spinning the leg and torso faster and faster
Revenant 5/7/2018 11:48 PM
(either way that gif is almost 10 MB, good lord)
Laenthor 5/7/2018 11:49 PM
flashbacks to me posting a 3.5mb gif on a page
Neko May 5/7/2018 11:50 PM
I noticed it took a ridiculously long time to load
leilei 5/7/2018 11:53 PM
it's like animating in milkshape 3d
f(x)^3 5/7/2018 11:55 PM
Lol, that leg reminds me of a broken animation in Midtown Madness 2
Deleted User 5/7/2018 11:56 PM
looks like either an animation intended for a different model, or junk data like Revenant said
f(x)^3 5/7/2018 11:56 PM
https://youtu.be/y2B_4f6D8Cw?t=14
Trees and Stuff
bandicam 2017 01 31 13 20 45 742
11:56 PM
This one (14 seconds)
divingkxt 5/7/2018 11:57 PM
@ecumber Please make sure that the data isn't garbage data.
leilei 5/7/2018 11:59 PM
clicks random pose on ragdoll wow unused animations in halflife 2
2
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/8/2018 12:00 AM
lol
ecumber 5/8/2018 12:00 AM
12:00 AM
this is the animation name
Deleted User 5/8/2018 12:03 AM
is it specifically intended for Mario
ecumber 5/8/2018 12:04 AM
it's in playeranimation.bfres
Deleted User 5/8/2018 12:05 AM
then I'm guessing the original animation data was overwritten/corrupted
ecumber 5/8/2018 12:06 AM
must i show the bfres file
Deleted User 5/8/2018 12:07 AM
or the animation isn't being loaded correctly.
ecumber 5/8/2018 12:08 AM
look in this file and tell me if it is corrupt
PlayerAnimation.zip
6.23 MB
12:08 AM
Mario.bfres
696.4 KB
12:08 AM
apply it to this model
Deleted User 5/8/2018 12:08 AM
`or the animation isn't being loaded correctly.`
12:09 AM
either way, I'd rather you not upload a 10MB gif right now
12:09 AM
considering it looks super broken
ecumber 5/8/2018 12:10 AM
ugh fine
leilei 5/8/2018 12:10 AM
just seeing mario spin two bone controllers has me thinking of bigrigs reversing into warp
1
Neko May 5/8/2018 12:16 AM
lol
EdTheNerd 5/8/2018 1:11 AM
Bigrigs is the best
1
Revenant 5/8/2018 1:27 AM
the real "odyssey" is spinning your torso 3600000000°
Neko May 5/8/2018 2:05 AM
lol
ゲームボーイ64 5/8/2018 2:07 AM
if the computer could win in big rigs, it would have been funny if it said "you're a lose", like hoiw the initial version said "you're winner"
leilei 5/8/2018 2:10 AM
i'd expect "you're looser" (edited)
2:11 AM
divingkxt 5/8/2018 2:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EyEN8WZJQI
Blake Patterson
Certain Impact flight simulator for SGI
leilei 5/8/2018 2:15 AM
the earliest gl footage i've seen is probably in a movie
2:15 AM
Fire Birds (1990) in particular (edited)
2:15 AM
the simulator they had in the movie showed familiar GL-ish rendering. (irixgl likely) mipmaps, ge128 alpha testing with alpha modulation, etc (edited)
2:17 AM
it wasn't supposed to be impressive movie cgi (edited)
Neko May 5/8/2018 2:19 AM
I need to take a picture of the 4GE7 chip from my GU1-Extreme
2:19 AM
It's a massive MCM with four separate GE7 dies
Deleted User 5/8/2018 4:52 AM
The Goonies 1 for NES has some differences between the beta version (shown in the commercial) and the final version. What do I do with it?
leilei 5/8/2018 4:53 AM
you mean early prototype version
Deleted User 5/8/2018 4:53 AM
Yup
leilei 5/8/2018 4:53 AM
a commercial would be a prerelease article stuff
Deleted User 5/8/2018 4:54 AM
Look at the commercial, no lifes icon and no timer, instead hiscore is displayed
4:55 AM
Looks like the timer was added fairly late into the game's development cycle
4:56 AM
Maybe because the game would be too easy without it
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/8/2018 5:24 AM
5:25 AM
I found debug menu in SIMPLE 2000 series Vol. 113 The Tairyou Jigoku.
Deleted User 5/8/2018 5:26 AM
nice (edited)
punk7890 5/8/2018 5:26 AM
nice
5:27 AM
leilei 5/8/2018 5:29 AM
as for goonies there is a vs version where high scores are more relevant
5:30 AM
no wait
5:30 AM
that has timer and lives too
5:30 AM
lol
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/8/2018 5:31 AM
@Deleted User @punk7890 thank you!
punk7890 5/8/2018 5:32 AM
anytime
Deleted User 5/8/2018 5:32 AM
yer welcome
punk7890 5/8/2018 6:59 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/993807619063037952
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a hidden cheat system in Duel Savior Destiny (PS2) https://t.co/8iQ6fFjjVo These essentially unlock everything in the game if you enable all of them at once.
6:59 AM
1
MysticSageJosh 5/8/2018 8:35 AM
it keeps saying i'm blocking ads when both of my ad blockers are disabled
FMecha 5/8/2018 9:42 AM
Current project (not TCRF related): finding/making a Quick Win/Freeze Timer code for PC version of Sega GT
9:44 AM
If anyone can help, let me know
9:44 AM
Or better yet, an "unlock all Carrozeria bodies" code (Carrozeria is Sega GT's create a car feature)
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 9:46 AM
I need that! @FMecha
FMecha 5/8/2018 9:47 AM
I'm working on a project to document all Carrozeria bodies (since nobody did it) and got everything except for Reynolds (Ferrari F50 GT1)
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/8/2018 11:23 AM
Urban Reign has debug function at 0x1BC220 (JP address). but going to slow or going to crash the game after call it.
FMecha 5/8/2018 12:02 PM
https://gamehacking.org/game/51458 Sega GT (DC, US) codes
12:02 PM
If anyone can peek the timer when it's not 0:00.000 it would be helpful to my cause (edited)
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:00 PM
I didn't know Sega GT had a PC version
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 1:06 PM
@Neko Ed#2096 Empire Interactive published it in Europe
1:06 PM
Sega ported it
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:06 PM
Ah, Europe, that would explain why.
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 1:06 PM
No wait
1:07 PM
It also came out in North America
1:07 PM
Published by Activision Value
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:07 PM
Ah, Activision Value, that would explain why.
1:08 PM
It'd be relegated to a dusty corner of the store away from the rest of the games. :P
1:08 PM
Gotta push those $60 AAA titles
1:09 PM
Eh, at least I have it on Dreamcast
Nex 5/8/2018 1:10 PM
AAA titles slowly start costing 70 bucks over here
Paulweeze71 5/8/2018 1:10 PM
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:10 PM
They're $100 if you want the "full experience"
Paulweeze71 5/8/2018 1:11 PM
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:11 PM
Game + Season Pass + Extra Crap
1:11 PM
Though, the Season Pass IS worth it
1:11 PM
At worst, it's the exact cost of all the DLC.
1:12 PM
Typically it's cheaper
1:12 PM
Usually $10-20 cheaper
Nex 5/8/2018 1:17 PM
game + season pass + maybe extra dlc not even in the season pass
1:17 PM
and if we go by evolved logic, season pass 2
Mine18 5/8/2018 1:24 PM
Just buy indie games on steam
1:24 PM
And save yourself the trouble
Nex 5/8/2018 1:25 PM
did not regret my recent purchase of god of war
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:26 PM
I don't game on my PC.
1:26 PM
Unless you count emulation
Mine18 5/8/2018 1:26 PM
Why?
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:27 PM
Because I will not install Windows, and most of the stuff available for Linux is crap.
Mine18 5/8/2018 1:27 PM
Huh
1:28 PM
Shame not every steam game is compatible with linux
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:28 PM
It's a big shame
Mine18 5/8/2018 1:29 PM
Speaking of emulation, it's pretty exciting to hear new updates for them
1:29 PM
Like Dolphin has an auto update now which is super fucking neat
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:29 PM
Daytona USA runs very well in MAME 0.197
1:30 PM
I'm very happy about that
1:30 PM
It's not perfect but I'd say it's 90% there
Mine18 5/8/2018 1:31 PM
I was pretty happy when I got Dolphin. 5 and I was able to run every GameCube game I downloaded
1:31 PM
Before I was only able to run Animal crossong
Neko May 5/8/2018 1:33 PM
I need to test out some of the more popular emulators in WINE
1:34 PM
See how/if they run
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/8/2018 2:13 PM
>was able to run every GameCube game I downloaded
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/8/2018 2:33 PM
God I wish it was easier to edit files in this game
Nex 5/8/2018 2:36 PM
what game tho
🐮 5/8/2018 4:03 PM
Wait, are you one of those people that is completely against Windows and will not use it under any circumstances...?
eientei 5/8/2018 4:31 PM
Why does it matter
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/8/2018 4:37 PM
@Nex patapon 3
Nex 5/8/2018 4:37 PM
ah ok
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 4:41 PM
Unused image in Galerians (1)
4:42 PM
Untranslated piece of text. Requesting someone to translate this!
4:42 PM
Something about Memory Card slot 1?
Cuyler 5/8/2018 4:50 PM
I believe that translates to "Delete data on Memory Card in Slot 1?"
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 4:51 PM
I think so. That image goes unused and I believe it's ONLY used in the Japanese version
Cuyler 5/8/2018 4:51 PM
My Japanese is rough, but I know it's talking about the removal/deletion of data
4:51 PM
It could be a prompt that says "Deleting data on the Memory Card in Slot 1"
4:51 PM
I'm unsure though
4:52 PM
Speaking of unused text
4:52 PM
1
4:55 PM
Its something my friend found in Animal Crossing
4:55 PM
it seems to be a leftover from Animal Forest (I extracted this text from it, which translates to that)
4:55 PM
このスクリプトがでたときは、 バグほうこくおねがいします。<Pause [12]> スクリプトNo 5068 うえだ けんしろう <End Conversation>
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 4:56 PM
There's another piece of Japanese text that Crave themselves forgot to translate (Broken):
Cuyler 5/8/2018 4:56 PM
oh that's kind of difficult to read
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 4:56 PM
Half of it is broken, though
Jhynjhiruu 5/8/2018 4:56 PM
i would expect that the text also appears in animal forest on the ique player - the translators seemingly translated every line of text in the entire game
4:57 PM
in oot at least
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 4:57 PM
So that's THREE Japanese version leftovers in the US version of Galerians
4:57 PM
I'm not sure if they remain on the PAL version
Cuyler 5/8/2018 4:57 PM
That one is "Yes, no"
4:58 PM
So, it's probably used for option selection or something
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 4:59 PM
Or for the continue screen. The US version uses this instead...
Cuyler 5/8/2018 4:59 PM
Interesting
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/8/2018 6:20 PM
so uh
6:20 PM
the newest discord update has audio embedding now! horray
6:21 PM
except mobile
6:21 PM
mobile doesnt get any embeds still
leilei 5/8/2018 6:23 PM
it's had audio embedding for a while
6:23 PM
was surprised when a wav i plonked here had it
6:25 PM
Revenant 5/8/2018 6:28 PM
it's recent enough for it not to be mentioned in the changelog yet
6:28 PM
and for searching "has:embed" to not include embedded audio
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/8/2018 7:02 PM
@Blaring Coder 395 DISPLAY.CDB39_p00.png: ほぞん Fileをせんたく　データ保存に失敗しま / "Save" "Select file" "Failed to save" (edited)
7:04 PM
It seems to 3 messages.
Blaring Coder 395 5/8/2018 7:09 PM
Good job! @Athena 悠里マヤ
7:13 PM
I might create a page for Galerians. As well as point out the regional differences.
7:18 PM
There's just Incredible Crisis (made by the same developer, Polygon Magic) which has a page. This game, in which I found unused graphics in, needs a page.
Neko May 5/8/2018 7:45 PM
@🐮: I try my best to avoid it at all costs, yes. Do you have some kind of problem with that?
goat 5/8/2018 9:29 PM
galerians is one of the weirdest experiences
Shiro Kusanagi 5/8/2018 9:58 PM
I can’t seem to get the media player to show up on https://tcrf.net/Michael_Jackson%27s_Moonwalker_(Genesis)
MichaelJackson%27s_Moonwalker(Genesis)
9:58 PM
On iOS.
Normmatt 5/8/2018 10:30 PM
lol rise of nations extended edition contains pdb files
10:31 PM
and lots of what appear to be left over dev files (no sources sadly)
DeadlyDilemma 5/8/2018 10:31 PM
alright lads. im here
divingkxt 5/8/2018 10:50 PM
@Shiro Kusanagi Might not work in Safari.
10:50 PM
Firefox, maybe?
Shiro Kusanagi 5/8/2018 11:16 PM
may be old but this is HIGHLY relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYwXh2ae1AE
brian the hedgehog
Michael Jackson's Moonwalker (Sega Genesis) Pre-Production Sample
11:16 PM
someone found a pre-production EPROM cart with Thriller in it
Paulweeze71 5/8/2018 11:17 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/8/2018 11:21 PM
wait a sec, if Michael Jackson didn't want to be credited for the music of Sonic 3 because he didn't like how the Genesis music sounded (according to a rumor) then how do you explain Moonwalker?
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:24 PM
I think MJ not wanting credit could had been possible legal compications
ゲームボーイ64 5/8/2018 11:25 PM
He said he didn’t like the sound of the genesis
11:25 PM
but i dunno
11:26 PM
I don’t know which story is right anymore
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/8/2018 11:26 PM
again, him not liking the sound of the genesis makes no sense because Moonwalker is a thing
ゲームボーイ64 5/8/2018 11:26 PM
Exactly
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:26 PM
moonwalker wasn't originally a genesis game
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:26 PM
it's all hearsay at this point, which anyone who knows not saying anything or had forgotten
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:27 PM
and it's not like he could just take his name off of it and turn it into "NOT michael jackson's moonwalker, featuring music by NOT michael jackson"
11:27 PM
based on the movie moonwalker, NOT starring michael jackson
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/8/2018 11:27 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6t70Gf4Fcao/maxresdefault.jpg it stars this guy instead
ゲームボーイ64 5/8/2018 11:27 PM
yepperoni
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:27 PM
that's brad buxer
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/8/2018 11:28 PM
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:28 PM
I think moonwalker also was a licensed game and sega already had liceses for the song
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:28 PM
(also - hot take - the music in the genesis version of moonwalker sounds good anyway)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/8/2018 11:29 PM
i believe MJ composing the music for Sonic 3 is why we've basically seen no re-releases for the game
11:29 PM
iirc
ゲームボーイ64 5/8/2018 11:29 PM
smooth criminal on the genesis sounds really good
darkwitchclaire 5/8/2018 11:29 PM
In a Famitsu article about the 40 games they wanted to see in a MD mini, Moonwalker was on there
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:30 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 it's on virtual console
ゲームボーイ64 5/8/2018 11:30 PM
shrug
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/8/2018 11:30 PM
ah right lul
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:30 PM
and in sonic mega collection
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/8/2018 11:30 PM
but we still havent gotten a mobile port yet :/
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:30 PM
well, one of the songs in sonic 3 was a spruced up song by one of MJ's song writers
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:31 PM
sega likely owns the copyright to all of the muisc in s3k regardless of who actually wrote it anyway
11:31 PM
because that's how works-for-hire normally work
darkwitchclaire 5/8/2018 11:31 PM
Then why did they change some songs for the PC version?
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:31 PM
samples?
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:31 PM
samples
ゲームボーイ64 5/8/2018 11:31 PM
But then why did they reject remaking sonic 3 and knuckles
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:31 PM
the songs they replaced werent easy to do straight remakes of with just general midi
ゲームボーイ64 5/8/2018 11:32 PM
After it’s been proposed even by stealth and the taxman
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:33 PM
how should we know, nobody here works for sega
ゲームボーイ64 5/8/2018 11:33 PM
Oh
11:33 PM
Ok
Neko May 5/8/2018 11:33 PM
They want us to suffer
11:35 PM
inb4 "We can't emulate the patented Lock On Technology TM properly"
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:36 PM
releasing from-the-ground-up remakes of games costs money that sega probably doesn't want to spend
11:36 PM
or else they might have released the sonic 1 and 2 remakes on something other than mobile
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:37 PM
seems likely
11:39 PM
with sonic mania being a uh "for the fans" niche game to sega's eyes
Shiro Kusanagi 5/8/2018 11:43 PM
The reason some songs changed is probably partially due to IceCap Zone being the same as "Hard Times" by The Jetzons
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:43 PM
but that was unreleased
Neko May 5/8/2018 11:43 PM
Money they probably don't HAVE. :P
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:43 PM
and by someone who worked with MJ
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:44 PM
the 2011 remake of Sonic CD has like 300 people listed in the credits and all of those people had to be paid to work on it
11:44 PM
it's not the kind of thing you can do on the cheap anymore if you want it to look like a professional product
Shiro Kusanagi 5/8/2018 11:45 PM
True, but the underlying music by Brad Buxer is identical
11:45 PM
and still probably under copyright
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:45 PM
odds are, he'd worked on the game
Neko May 5/8/2018 11:46 PM
Licensing, ruining everything since ever
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:46 PM
even so, they've literally already released sonic 3 with different music, it's not like they can't do it again if music licensing was actually the issue
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:46 PM
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3#Production_credits like brad buxer is first listed as a composor
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Neko May 5/8/2018 11:47 PM
Imagine if they had to deal with this shit in the Renaissance. We'd be back in the dark ages today.
1
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:47 PM
i think sega wants to play it safe, or sega of japan pissed off SoA did this
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:47 PM
and if one is the sort of person who would consider "remake doesn't include [song]" to be a total dealbreaker then you probably weren't going to have a good reason to buy the remake in the first place
Neko May 5/8/2018 11:48 PM
SoJ probably still has a massive hatred for SoA
11:48 PM
Does Naka still work for Sega? Because that would explain everything.
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:49 PM
he works for squenix now
Neko May 5/8/2018 11:49 PM
Hm.
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:49 PM
as of january, apparently
Neko May 5/8/2018 11:50 PM
Ah, well, if he was still with Sega until then, he was likely still fostering that hatred
Revenant 5/8/2018 11:50 PM
who knows
Neko May 5/8/2018 11:50 PM
Well, if remakes suddenly end up on the table, we have a wiener
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11:51 PM
Naka was why Sonic Xtreme got cancelled
Shiro Kusanagi 5/8/2018 11:52 PM
Sadly Sonic 3 may never see another rerelease thanks to the Jackson estate having a stranglehold on anything to do with his music
Neko May 5/8/2018 11:52 PM
I wouldn't put it past him to fuck over anything SoA tried to do again
11:52 PM
I wonder if he'll try to pull the same shit at Squenix
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:54 PM
even the shadow of MJ on the soundtrack was enough to stop it I'd guess
11:58 PM
or that sega had a cheap music contract, not thinking of long term music reuse?
Halfbit 5/8/2018 11:59 PM
Hewwooooooowo
caff!!! 5/8/2018 11:59 PM
hi
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although, it doesn't explain S3 showing up in the mega collection, unless it was still in contract time?
12:00 AM
or being on VC past 10 years?
f(x)^3 5/9/2018 12:00 AM
Wow, that's a lot of people involved in a remake
Halfbit 5/9/2018 12:02 AM
Yup
caff!!! 5/9/2018 12:04 AM
http://info.sonicretro.org/Game_Development:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3/Music#The_other_.22composers.22 but yeah, pretty much everyone on the composer list in S3 has connections to MJ
Music
Laenthor 5/9/2018 12:05 AM
Contracts for copyrights are just annoying in general. I mean I get why they exist but they cause a lot of long-time trouble usually
caff!!! 5/9/2018 12:06 AM
yeah, but I think S3's situation may be complicated
Laenthor 5/9/2018 12:07 AM
It always was, but now that MJ has been dead for a while I doubt they would even try at this point. Too costly most likely
Halfbit 5/9/2018 12:09 AM
What about his estate?
Laenthor 5/9/2018 12:10 AM
can't really answer. I don't know much about musical contracts
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 12:43 AM
I hear one of the reasons the music in the S&K collection was changed was because it didn't play well with digitized samples
12:44 AM
because it used the Midi format
divingkxt 5/9/2018 12:45 AM
Correct.
12:45 AM
And they couldn't just make their own sample banks easily.
12:46 AM
Especially since there were loads of different configs in use at the time.
12:46 AM
And loads of cards to program for.
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 12:46 AM
I don't get why they couldn't.. y'know
12:46 AM
remake Ice Cap zone's music using Midi
12:46 AM
but i'm not a 90's game dev
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divingkxt 5/9/2018 12:47 AM
Because of the voice clips.
12:47 AM
Hard to represent those with MIDI.
12:48 AM
Without some clever bank replacement that might not work across all cards.
12:49 AM
And it's not like MJ was willing to waltz in to record 11 KHz samples of his voice.
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 12:51 AM
sure, that's a good explanation i guess
12:51 AM
BUT WHY IS THE REPLACEMENT MUSIC IN S&K COLLECTION FOR ICE CAP SO TERRIBLE!? (edited)
divingkxt 5/9/2018 12:52 AM
Programmer music?
12:53 AM
Hasty replacement for when they decided to make new tracks?
12:53 AM
Grabbed out from some other project?
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 12:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGb50xDIk7E&ab_channel=Jami393
Jami393
Sonic and Knuckles Collection IceCap Act 1 music
12:53 AM
MY EARS
divingkxt 5/9/2018 12:54 AM
Yeah, my explanations still stand.
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 12:54 AM
Thankfully there's a way to program custom midi files into the game
ゲームボーイ64 5/9/2018 12:54 AM
I don't remember it ever sounding like that
12:55 AM
the general midi/fm synth I've used in the past sounds cheesy as hell
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 12:55 AM
on PC?
ゲームボーイ64 5/9/2018 12:55 AM
yeah
12:55 AM
it's the same song
12:55 AM
but it sounds different
divingkxt 5/9/2018 12:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p27ppD9_5P4
Unlimited Extender
Sonic 3 Complete - Ice Cap Zone, Act 1 (S&K Collection)
12:55 AM
Ironically, it sounds better in the Complete ROM hack. (edited)
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 12:57 AM
Still not as good as Genesis, AKA Hard Times by the Jetzons imo
ゲームボーイ64 5/9/2018 12:57 AM
the unused midi sounds cool, I wonder what it would have been used for
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FM_44_Unused.mid
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12:58 AM
this one
divingkxt 5/9/2018 12:58 AM
I vaguely recall it sounding similar to an 80's song.
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 12:58 AM
are we allowed to link game's midi's here?
ゲームボーイ64 5/9/2018 12:58 AM
i mean, I just did so
divingkxt 5/9/2018 12:58 AM
Sure.
ゲームボーイ64 5/9/2018 12:58 AM
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divingkxt 5/9/2018 12:59 AM
So long as it's video game music.
ゲームボーイ64 5/9/2018 12:59 AM
ok
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 12:59 AM
https://youtu.be/8WDP0y53Ja0?t=1m6s Sonic 3 and St Knuckles
Wockes
Sonic 3k PC Music differences between computers
1:01 AM
the joke is that the drum sounds like st anger's snare
divingkxt 5/9/2018 1:02 AM
Compare the unused S&K theme to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-zP66eSLto
u2exemplo
Level 42 - Something About You
1:03 AM
Especially starting at 0:52.
1:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ZUq1rPt_4
sonicdx17
Sonic & Knuckles Collection Soundtrack Unused Theme
leilei 5/9/2018 1:04 AM
yamahas help
ゲームボーイ64 5/9/2018 1:05 AM
holy shit i haven't heard that song in forever
caff!!! 5/9/2018 1:05 AM
that was a lite rock setlist patron saint
leilei 5/9/2018 1:06 AM
i like the notSurrender in Super Turrican / Turrican 3 / Mega Turrican (edited)
divingkxt 5/9/2018 1:08 AM
Only remembered it because it was in my IRC archives.
ゲームボーイ64 5/9/2018 1:08 AM
that was a song I used to hear on the radio all the time
1:09 AM
and now I almost never hear it
1:09 AM
but they sure love to play other songs over and over
leilei 5/9/2018 1:32 AM
i'm glad i don't have to hear I DONT KNOW I DONT KNOW, I DONT KNOW WHERE THE BODY IS anymore. phew
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 1:44 AM
1:44 AM
this took longer than you'd think
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 1:46 AM
are those rips from the tiger gamecom!? (edited)
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 1:46 AM
yes
1:46 AM
rom-properties now thumbnails them
eientei 5/9/2018 2:34 AM
@Jhynjhiruu Speaking of iQue player, OoT on it is based off the US/JP version, just with teh US text replaced with Chinese
Jhynjhiruu 5/9/2018 2:34 AM
indeed
2:34 AM
we know
eientei 5/9/2018 2:34 AM
The EN font was expanded, the text isn't even encoded
2:34 AM
It's just pointers as if they were symbols
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 2:36 AM
i can't get the Ique dumps to work properly on emu
eientei 5/9/2018 2:37 AM
Try mupen64plus or cen64
2:37 AM
@GerbilSoft but... why
2:39 AM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17020285
indescions_2018
The Cutting Room Floor: Unearthing Unused Content from Video Games
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 2:41 AM
Nvm i just got it to work on mupen lol
EdTheNerd 5/9/2018 4:29 AM
day 13: still zero replys to gerbilsoft's RVT-H Tool thread on GBATemp
4:29 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/9/2018 4:30 AM
aint scriptkiddies gonna care
punk7890 5/9/2018 4:38 AM
hi
MysticSageJosh 5/9/2018 4:39 AM
hi punk
4:39 AM
discover any new debug menus?
punk7890 5/9/2018 4:39 AM
of course
EdTheNerd 5/9/2018 4:48 AM
punk7890 5/9/2018 4:52 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/994137996579356672
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner (PSP) https://t.co/yDhQCyx8MP This contains sound tests, event viewers, movie viewers, an image viewer and more. In addition to that, I also found a simple CPU/GPU meter display and anot...
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Mine18 5/9/2018 4:52 AM
nice
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/9/2018 4:53 AM
nice find!
Mine18 5/9/2018 4:53 AM
have you looked for any debug menus in popular ps2 games?
punk7890 5/9/2018 4:54 AM
what would be popular?
Mine18 5/9/2018 4:54 AM
say like the Crash games
4:54 AM
Metal Gear sold 2 and 3
4:54 AM
Jak and Daxter but a debug mode was found so
punk7890 5/9/2018 4:55 AM
I looked at one Crash game that had a leftover cheat menu that doesn't work anymore
4:55 AM
I mostly just do whatever
Blaring Coder 395 5/9/2018 4:55 AM
My word, another Japanese leftover in Galerians.
punk7890 5/9/2018 4:56 AM
I'll probably look at the MGS games one day
Mine18 5/9/2018 4:57 AM
still cant believe Bee Movie has cheats best find yet
punk7890 5/9/2018 4:57 AM
4:58 AM
also another PSP Atlus game which I'll post sometime
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/9/2018 4:58 AM
ビリヤード台の玉無し: Doesn't exists ball of billiards
Blaring Coder 395 5/9/2018 5:04 AM
These also go unused: Something about the G-Types?
5:04 AM
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5:05 AM
There goes another leftover. (edited)
5:06 AM
Another transparent piece of text
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/9/2018 5:11 AM
G報告書: G report その壱: #1 その弐: #2 その三: #3 その四: #4 その伍: #5 リオンの実験データ: Rion's experimental data
Blaring Coder 395 5/9/2018 5:12 AM
The ones used in Stage A are translated.
punk7890 5/9/2018 5:15 AM
It would have been nice if you thanked Athena for the translations.
Blaring Coder 395 5/9/2018 5:16 AM
Also, thanks a lot @Athena 悠里マヤ
punk7890 5/9/2018 5:16 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/9/2018 5:16 AM
you're welcome! (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/9/2018 5:17 AM
native speakers choke that a ton
punk7890 5/9/2018 5:18 AM
I'd imagine so
5:18 AM
it's all fine and dandy though
Blaring Coder 395 5/9/2018 5:21 AM
Still, I think I'll make a page for Galerians since there's a ton of unused graphics
5:21 AM
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Athena 悠里マヤ 5/9/2018 5:36 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT @punk7890 I see. "no problem" is better?
punk7890 5/9/2018 5:49 AM
"You're welcome" is fine for that situation.
5:51 AM
"No problem" is less formal.
FMecha 5/9/2018 5:55 AM
Still digging how to unlock all Carrozeria bodies in PC ver in Sega GT
5:55 AM
In doing so, I found a debug menu string
5:56 AM
Also, segagt.sgs is the game's save data file - if anyone has a everything unlocked save file, that'll help my problems
5:56 AM
Or figure out the flags in it
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:18 AM
Hey, I got a question, did anyone ever crack The Lost Vikings game?
6:18 AM
Like checking unused graphics?
6:20 AM
I am asking because there's no unused graphics shown in tcrf page
Mine18 5/9/2018 6:29 AM
maybe people didnt dig that deep
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:30 AM
because me and my friend learnt that KKND game was build on top of Lost Vikings game
6:31 AM
that means LV is using the same formats
6:31 AM
and my friend's tool which allows watching KKND's sprites/maps, almost works with LV game, it just requires some polishment
leilei 5/9/2018 6:34 AM
and let me guess it works with blackthorne too
6:34 AM
i don't see any reason why kknd would need to base their rts game off a 1993 blizzard platformer
6:35 AM
that's like claiming resident evil uses the quake engine because polygons (edited)
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:35 AM
Lost Vikins was developed by Beam Software
6:35 AM
the same guys who did KKND
6:35 AM
back then there weren't any free engines, so people had to use what they had
Blaring Coder 395 5/9/2018 6:36 AM
Blizzard made The Lost Vikings
leilei 5/9/2018 6:36 AM
silicon & synapse = blizzard. blizzard = us. beam = australia.
Blaring Coder 395 5/9/2018 6:36 AM
Exactly!
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:37 AM
Hi
6:37 AM
I'm new here :)
Blaring Coder 395 5/9/2018 6:37 AM
Welcome! Be sure to read the rules
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:37 AM
Okii
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:38 AM
I am sorry
6:38 AM
The Lost Vikings 2
6:38 AM
that game was developed by Beam Software
6:38 AM
and Blizzard
Blaring Coder 395 5/9/2018 6:38 AM
Beam/Melbourne House did Dethkarz, I believe
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:38 AM
Yes
6:38 AM
that too
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:39 AM
I'd like to create a new page on TCRF. Any hints? (edited)
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:39 AM
Do you have unused material which could be shown?
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:39 AM
Yea
leilei 5/9/2018 6:39 AM
well blizzard devved lost vikings 2 originally, beam did the pc ports
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:40 AM
Cool, make sure you re-read rules a lot of times cause I didn't and I was warned 2 times (edited)
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:40 AM
It's just I'm not that good in wording things nicely. The easiest thing would be to make a page with some screenshots only
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:40 AM
@leilei seems like you are correct
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:41 AM
I can't find the "Create new page" button
6:41 AM
Rip
Mine18 5/9/2018 6:41 AM
if you want we could help you, i also was awful at making/editing pages when i began still kinda am to this day (edited)
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:42 AM
Neither I am good in writing nice sentences, so someone will have to probably correct all stuff I am writing for KKND
leilei 5/9/2018 6:42 AM
lost vikings 2 is still a curiosity though. the snes version carries none of the art makeover beam did
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:43 AM
interesting
leilei 5/9/2018 6:44 AM
and dates internally to 1995
Mine18 5/9/2018 6:44 AM
im thinking of adding the famous Crash Bash Demo cheat thing later today (edited)
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:44 AM
Anyone who has played the PC version of SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom can help :)
6:45 AM
Which is likely not a lot
6:45 AM
The PC port of this game isn't really popular xD
Mine18 5/9/2018 6:45 AM
why not install it yourself?
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:46 AM
How do you mean?
6:46 AM
I have this game already
6:46 AM
I'm talking about the TCRF page
Mine18 5/9/2018 6:46 AM
i mean the game
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:46 AM
Yea
6:46 AM
I have the game already :p
leilei 5/9/2018 6:47 AM
also kknd came out before lost vikings 2
6:47 AM
so i wouldn't think beam 'based on' that game. more like they've had their own containers and such common between their own engines and backends (edited)
6:48 AM
kknd's code lineage can't possibly trace itself to a snes platformer
6:49 AM
there's probably other earlier beam pc games you could compare it to, like maybe..... Cricket '96
eientei 5/9/2018 6:50 AM
@Eugène https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=SpongeBob_SquarePants:_Battle_for_Bikini_Bottom_(Windows)&action=edit
Index.php?title=SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom (W...
Eugène 5/9/2018 6:50 AM
Yea, I'm already there xD
Dzierzan 5/9/2018 6:56 AM
@leilei perhaps
6:57 AM
nevertheless my friend is able to open these containers
6:57 AM
using tools written for KKND
6:58 AM
But there has to be someone who knows LV2 game cause I do not know this game so good to know what's unused or used
leilei 5/9/2018 6:58 AM
finding the unused stuff in the snes version, and seeing if that survived the porting job would be interesting
6:59 AM
like every super mario bros article
6:59 AM
but i haven't played lv2 ever
6:59 AM
played plenty of lv1 in 94 though
eientei 5/9/2018 7:50 AM
@Eugène Please read the rules
7:50 AM
Specifically the "No placeholders" and "Box art isn't a titlescreen" (edited)
Eugène 5/9/2018 9:32 AM
@eientei Sorry! I added information now and I fixed the box art thing.
9:33 AM
May I ask tho' why TCRF wants titlescreens instead of box art?
eientei 5/9/2018 9:39 AM
Because box art isn't a titlescreen nor is it representative of the game itself (edited)
9:39 AM
Plus how do you say one scan of box art is more accurate than another?
9:40 AM
@Eugène The "Early Hub World" section should really go on a Prerelease page
Eugène 5/9/2018 9:41 AM
>>"Because box art isn't a titlescreen" You don't say.. I asked that because other sites with info about games usually use box art :p
9:41 AM
>>"Plus how do you say one scan of box art is more accurate than another?" What do you mean by this?
9:46 AM
>> "The "Early Hub World" section should really go on a Prerelease page" @eientei Fixed!
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/9/2018 10:04 AM
@punk7890 I see! Thank you!
Deleted User 5/9/2018 10:12 AM
-it's more uniform
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 10:13 AM
games generally have the same title screen in multiple regions, whereas the boxart might be different
Deleted User 5/9/2018 10:13 AM
-it's easier for users to take a titlescreen shot than find box art on the net that looks in decent shape
10:13 AM
-it's representative of the game itself, as eientei said. older box art in particular was designed to sell the game to you in a store.
Eugène 5/9/2018 10:14 AM
Ahh okay
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 10:14 AM
oh, that reminds me of atari 2600 games
10:14 AM
Super Breakout's title screen: http://atariage.com/2600/screenshots/s_SuperBreakout_1.png
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(not actually a title screen because most 2600 games didn't have one)
10:14 AM
boxart: http://atariage.com/2600/boxes/b_SuperBreakout_Color_front.jpg
Deleted User 5/9/2018 10:15 AM
2001: A Breakout Odyssey
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 10:16 AM
here's another one
10:16 AM
Atari 400/800 Pac-Man
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title: http://www.atarimania.com/8bit/screens/PacMan.gif
10:16 AM
the rather infamous boxart for the first run: http://www.atarimania.com/8bit/boxes/hi_res/PacMan_cart_4.jpg
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Deleted User 5/9/2018 10:17 AM
lol
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 10:17 AM
later runs: http://www.atarimania.com/8bit/boxes/hi_res/PacMan_cart_6.jpg
Eugène 5/9/2018 10:20 AM
O damn xD
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/9/2018 10:25 AM
I remember surprised that watch text "old guy with a banjo" on tcrf page Phalanx. I knew Phalanx boxart is spaceship only. (edited)
Deleted User 5/9/2018 10:39 AM
just documented an unused nozzle type in sunshine; it's pretty amazing how much unused stuff they left in this game
10:40 AM
searched high and low for code for the sniper nozzle but couldn't find anything. the game loads a bunch of base classes for nozzles in TWaterGun but I couldn't find it loading the parameters for the sniper nozzle at all
Laenthor 5/9/2018 10:42 AM
So there's just a name with no code or params?
10:43 AM
Maybe they figured that the rocket nozzle acted similarly, idk
Deleted User 5/9/2018 10:43 AM
it has a parameter file, since i know some of the fields i was able to point out differences, like the radius of the shots you can fire, the power of the shots (very powerful)
10:43 AM
I'm unsure about the yoshi nozzle files i see in there so I'm not going to attempt to label that as unused until I do some tests
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/9/2018 10:43 AM
watch out for the 12 yo kid who comes up with the unique idea of a sunshine fps mod
Deleted User 5/9/2018 10:44 AM
nozzleyoshi.prm itself is not loaded by the game
10:44 AM
that goes with https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_Sunshine/Unused_Objects#Yoshi_Nozzle
Mine18 5/9/2018 10:45 AM
its kind of amazing how big the sunshine page has gotten
10:45 AM
no longer does it only cover unused graphics and items
10:45 AM
but also FUCKING FILE NAME ODDITIES
10:45 AM
i seriously cant get over that
Deleted User 5/9/2018 10:46 AM
I don't know why that even exists tbh
10:47 AM
I've done a bunch of reverse engineering of the game and the more "Interesting stuff" to the rest of the community is something with the word "shit" in it
10:47 AM
smh
10:48 AM
to be real though sunshine has a lot of typos in its filenames
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/9/2018 10:51 AM
Imagine if I had more time to edit the patapon 3 page
10:52 AM
It could probably get bigger than the sunshine page imo
Laenthor 5/9/2018 11:27 AM
@Mine18 If I really wanted, I could also put filename oddities on the harry potter pages. There's so much weird names in there.
Mine18 5/9/2018 11:27 AM
then why dont you do it kek (edited)
Laenthor 5/9/2018 11:58 AM
There's a lot of other more important stuff do do first
11:59 AM
But I don't really have time for tcrf much right now. I will next week though. Been planning on making a video on unused HP2 animations for a while now
Netscape Navigator 5/9/2018 12:37 PM
this box stuff I believe influenced the black box nes covers
12:38 PM
With images that are fairly representative of the real game with some more colors and dramatic flair
LarryLemmy 5/9/2018 1:33 PM
Wow, tcrf has a lot of Spongebob articles
1:34 PM
In fact, it's surprising that so many Spongebob games even exist
Mine18 5/9/2018 1:36 PM
well, its spongebob
1:36 PM
nickelodeon will milk that sponge until it crumbles to dust (edited)
LarryLemmy 5/9/2018 1:38 PM
On the topic of title screens/boxart, sometimes even title screens aren't hugely representative of the games eg. ET on Atari
🐮 5/9/2018 1:45 PM
@Neko May No, I'm wondering why you are the person that has some kind of problem with Windows, haha. I mean, I know it has flaws, but I'd like to hear your perspective.
1:45 PM
TCRF has the Smurf iOS game
1:45 PM
Yet it doesn't have any Doko Demo Issyo games
1:45 PM
It's a magical place to be
tape 5/9/2018 2:06 PM
hot take: the best disclaimer on tcrf is the one on the half life 1997 proto warning you, the humble reader, about big alien ass cheeks
Deleted User 5/9/2018 2:07 PM
gotta be prepared
tape 5/9/2018 2:10 PM
the insinuation that headcrabs have a functional digestive system is too much to bear
airstrike 5/9/2018 2:26 PM
hey all
2:26 PM
just wanted to mention that Black Belt for the Sega Master System had another hidden trick involving hitting Reset when launching the game or maybe holding it? I can't remember exactly as I was around 4 years old then
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and obviously no longer have a master system to try it on
2:32 PM
and I haven't been to Brazil in years but I'll make sure to grab a new console the next time I'm there
2:33 PM
apparently it's only around $55 USD right now https://www.casasbahia.com.br/Games/Consoles/Console-TecToy-Master-System-Evolution-c-132-Jogos-%E2%80%93-Blue-416589.html?rectype=p1_op_s1
2:35 PM
also one source
2:35 PM
also one source *tells me they sold ~150k consoles as recently as 2012 which is insane
🐮 5/9/2018 2:52 PM
Is it known what the trick does exactly?
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/9/2018 2:53 PM
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There's some unused menu options in pata3
2:54 PM
Includes: Demo, Download
airstrike 5/9/2018 2:57 PM
Tymek: I think it makes you invincible if memory serves me right
Nex 5/9/2018 3:18 PM
oof
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/9/2018 4:13 PM
Modding for this game is really close
4:14 PM
If I can mod this game I can make a bunch of stuff appear properly
Nex 5/9/2018 4:15 PM
Patapon 3: Enchanced Edition
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/9/2018 5:10 PM
actually
5:10 PM
you might think thats a good joke
5:10 PM
but thats actually a brilliant idea
Nex 5/9/2018 5:15 PM
nothing better than content restoration
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/9/2018 5:45 PM
I have NTSC SMS tbh…
🐮 5/9/2018 5:50 PM
Christ, Patapon 3
5:50 PM
I remember participating in the Multiplayer Demo/Beta for that....
5:51 PM
....back in 2010....
5:56 PM
I wonder if it has been dumped by someone
5:57 PM
If not, I could probably dump it
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/9/2018 6:16 PM
@🐮 i'm already dumping it (edited)
6:17 PM
the full game has special encryption
6:17 PM
but the multi demo has the same as all other patapon games (edited)
6:20 PM
anyways @Nex the reason why i said its a good idea is because patapon 3 VS is unbalanced as fuck and there are a bunch of glitches that hinder your progress or create very unfair advantages
6:21 PM
ex. slogturtle's class skills are glitched. only one of them can gain experience
Nex 5/9/2018 6:24 PM
good luck on fixing that
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/9/2018 7:12 PM
theres a fix for it
7:12 PM
just dumb that they didnt catch it in game testing
s0lo 5/9/2018 7:22 PM
hmm
7:23 PM
this is probably unused
Revenant 5/9/2018 7:25 PM
what's that dumped from
s0lo 5/9/2018 7:27 PM
no fucking idea
7:27 PM
but i found it in somj01
Smoke 5/9/2018 7:28 PM
Rhythm Heaven Fever
7:28 PM
According to: https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Rhythm_Heaven_Fever
Index.php?title=Rhythm Heaven Fever
s0lo 5/9/2018 7:37 PM
text is inaccurate on the bottom
7:37 PM
did you know
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/9/2018 7:39 PM
安全第一= Safety First…
7:39 PM
soooo
punk7890 5/9/2018 7:44 PM
7:44 PM
crash imminent
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 7:45 PM
That's Diddy, not Crash
7:45 PM
punk7890 5/9/2018 7:47 PM
airstrike 5/9/2018 7:51 PM
lol
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/9/2018 8:47 PM
nice find!
punk7890 5/9/2018 8:47 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/994378218164514816
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug display in Diddy Kong Racing https://t.co/uRbnIoV9kq This shows the current colors rendered in the area.
5
5
8:47 PM
Rena 5/9/2018 8:51 PM
That's a strange thing for a debug display to show
punk7890 5/9/2018 8:52 PM
An odd choice, yeah.
Rena 5/9/2018 8:52 PM
Any chance the labels mean something else?
punk7890 5/9/2018 8:54 PM
Doesn't look like it.
8:54 PM
Not 100% sure, but it's either fog color or map colors
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/9/2018 8:59 PM
i know i talk about patapon a lot more than i should here but
9:00 PM
nah nvm
9:00 PM
not really worth posting about
caff!!! 5/9/2018 9:20 PM
I wonder if it's due to palette limitations?
divingkxt 5/9/2018 9:50 PM
@s0lo "The text on the Japanese garage door translates to "Flow First", a play on the typical Japanese 安全✚第一 "Safety First" sign. "
9:51 PM
Could add the transcription for the door
Dagel 5/9/2018 10:20 PM
tfw i triple check to make sure my copies of the debug OoTMQ and gamecube service disk ISOs are backed up to my backup hard drive before i set up my new computer
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 10:39 PM
OHAI
punk7890 5/9/2018 10:40 PM
yo
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 10:46 PM
anyone messed with those VHS-based systems
10:47 PM
apparently Daphne can run some of them...
10:48 PM
deeeee kaayyy
DeadlyDilemma 5/9/2018 11:09 PM
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:15 PM
@Super Nintendo Chalmers: I used to have one
11:16 PM
It was an educational one, would present you with multiple choice questions, and you had a controller that was also the console itself
11:17 PM
I can't remember what it was called, but this one had the ability to control the VCR
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:17 PM
nifty
11:18 PM
i recall seeing one in a friends house back in 80s
11:18 PM
they were playing some sort of cheesy space combat thing
11:19 PM
ActionMax maybe?
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:19 PM
Hm, lightgun with a light to mount on the TV?
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:19 PM
yes!
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:19 PM
ActionMax
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:21 PM
sold it?
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:21 PM
Mine had a wedge shaped controller with four buttons, each with different symbols and colors
11:22 PM
It also had two caterpillar things with LEDs
11:22 PM
One was smiling and green, the other was angry and red
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:22 PM
lolo
11:22 PM
i did have an Adam!
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:22 PM
And may God have mercy on you if you forgot to shut it off (edited)
11:23 PM
Because it would punish you dearly
11:23 PM
lol
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:23 PM
we got the Adam before a real PC
11:23 PM
our 1st comp
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:24 PM
Basically it would command you to turn the device off in a loud, stern and most importantly sudden, out-of-nowhere voice to turn it off.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:24 PM
sounds spooky
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:24 PM
Oh, fuck, here it is
11:24 PM
Videosmarts
11:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYgyz5U7IME
Robert Carey
Videosmarts Letters A to Z
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:25 PM
that doesnt look very fun
11:26 PM
edutainment
11:26 PM
can you guess my 1st actual PC?
11:26 PM
hint: it was a Commodore
11:26 PM
and it was an actual XT
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:28 PM
Hm. Was it a Commodore PC? :P
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:28 PM
they did actually make a few PCs yea
11:28 PM
The Colt!
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:28 PM
Ah
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:29 PM
when we got a HDD
11:29 PM
you had to park it ;/
11:29 PM
some command
11:30 PM
is old
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:31 PM
Shit, that's the wrong link
11:31 PM
And Discord is too stupid to let me copy paste it
Super Nintendo Chalmers 5/9/2018 11:31 PM
what was your 1st machine
11:31 PM
not console
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFUzIQGDROY
Beta MAX
1986 Videosmarts Learning Game Commercial
11:32 PM
I also had one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS0WihTJOo4
lugnutsoldcrap
1988 VTech Socrates commercial
11:33 PM
Check out the diversity in that commercial, too
11:33 PM
How many other 80s commercials would cast a black kid?
11:33 PM
lol
11:36 PM
Anyway, first computer
11:36 PM
Beige box 386SLC-16
11:43 PM
pokes @Super Nintendo Chalmers
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 11:50 PM
@Neko May i actually have one of those
11:50 PM
got it at a thrift store a while back
11:50 PM
it works
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:51 PM
Videosmarts?
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 11:51 PM
included a cartridge "around the world" - the cartridge has some indentations that make it 'look' like a floppy disk
11:51 PM
Socrates
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:51 PM
Oh
11:51 PM
That's awesome, though
11:51 PM
Ours is sadly long gone
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 11:52 PM
iirc the CPU is a Z80, and everything else is proprietary
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:52 PM
Yep
11:52 PM
Z80 @ NTSC CB
11:52 PM
There's efforts to emulate it in MAME
GerbilSoft 5/9/2018 11:53 PM
RF out only (using dual coax connectors on the console instead of the TV/Game switchbox setup)
Neko May 5/9/2018 11:53 PM
Heh, RF is the only way a lot of these old things can work on modern TVs anyway (edited)
11:54 PM
I want to know what was in the Videosmarts.
11:54 PM
lol
eientei 5/10/2018 2:16 AM
@Deleted User was saying to me a while back about how he has/had a Socrates
2:16 AM
and how MAME emulates it somewhat (minus sound) (edited)
Neko May 5/10/2018 2:40 AM
Hm.
eientei 5/10/2018 5:35 AM
also how some games do a region-check on the system and change the language accordingly (edited)
LarryLemmy 5/10/2018 6:06 AM
Has there been discussion on introducing an "Unused NPCs" category?
punk7890 5/10/2018 6:20 AM
when did I get a role of "Debug Dude" lol
Deleted User 5/10/2018 6:24 AM
My socrates was short lived
6:24 AM
RIP in flood
punk7890 5/10/2018 6:42 AM
you will be missed
6:42 AM
sorry things had to go this way
6:44 AM
(* ´艸｀)ｸｽｸｽ
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/10/2018 6:45 AM
ヽ(^o^)丿
Gilgamesh 5/10/2018 6:56 AM
hello
punk7890 5/10/2018 6:56 AM
hi Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh 5/10/2018 6:56 AM
hi punk7890
Mine18 5/10/2018 6:56 AM
Hi
Gilgamesh 5/10/2018 6:56 AM
cool your GS codes for Diddy Kong Racing
6:57 AM
o/
punk7890 5/10/2018 6:57 AM
thanks
punk7890 5/10/2018 7:49 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/994544956193714178
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a sound test menu and a debug display in Bass Rush: ECOGEAR PowerWorm Championship (N64) https://t.co/4Ngk9Ep0VT The sound test menu is neat. You can change the sequence volume, pitch, tempo and pan in real time.
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7:49 AM
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 7:50 AM
https://twitter.com/manfightdragon/status/994466216986066949
Lance McDonald (@manfightdragon)
The PS4 port of Parappa the Rapper is actually a PSP Emulator running an image of the PSP port of Parappa the Rapper. Because of this, the PS4 homebrew community have access to a fully functional PSP emulator on PS4 (source https://t.co/XhBTtN...
Retweets
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7:50 AM
Confirmed
7:51 AM
Remasters for parappa/locoroco/patapon are just psp emulated ports (edited)
🐮 5/10/2018 7:53 AM
Yeah
7:53 AM
It's insane :0
7:54 AM
Thank you for the info by the way, @airstrike#2448
MysticSageJosh 5/10/2018 8:03 AM
so we can get..
8:03 AM
size matters on ps4?
🐮 5/10/2018 8:20 AM
If you care to dream and never stop believing; probably
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/10/2018 8:46 AM
8:47 AM
I found VRAM viewer in SIMPLE 1500 series Vol.34 The Quiz Bangumi
1
8:47 AM
This game has more debug menu. but It didn't display debug text.
🐮 5/10/2018 8:47 AM
Nice find!
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/10/2018 8:47 AM
Thank you!
Rim 5/10/2018 9:13 AM
Yall got a .grn 1.0 model viewer?? (edited)
Halfbit 5/10/2018 9:46 AM
Morning
Dezent 5/10/2018 10:14 AM
yo
Δndrew P. 5/10/2018 11:55 AM
honestly i wasnt surprised about PaRappa Remastered having a PSP emu because the PS4 one is literally just a carbon copy of the PSP version
MLagaffe 5/10/2018 12:25 PM
Some already found the HD texture pack files as pngs
12:26 PM
I'm waiting for a texture pack release usable with PPSSPP.
12:26 PM
the emulator apparently has low compatibility however
Neko May 5/10/2018 12:27 PM
So Nintendo style, then.
12:29 PM
Just barely good enough for whatever crap they're trying to sell that day
MLagaffe 5/10/2018 12:29 PM
patapon already uses a game specific hack
12:29 PM
in psphd (this)
12:30 PM
so, maybe even worse than nintendo
12:30 PM
whose worst emulator so far
12:31 PM
either the gba one on GC for naruto collection / pokemon, or the n64 one on GC for zelda collector's edition
12:31 PM
can at least accept game injection for playable status for at least 7 games
🐮 5/10/2018 12:31 PM
The GBA emulator on GC for Naruto Collection?
12:31 PM
As for Pokemon...you mean Pokemon BOX?
MLagaffe 5/10/2018 12:31 PM
this one (psphd) has none confirmed so far.
12:32 PM
Yes.
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 12:32 PM
Wait wait
12:32 PM
Patapon remaster uses png? (edited)
MLagaffe 5/10/2018 12:32 PM
the hd texture packs do.
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 12:32 PM
That's strange
12:32 PM
The original game used gxt
🐮 5/10/2018 12:32 PM
I did not know there was a GC Naruto game with a GBA emulator.... And, what was wrong with BOX's emulator?
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 12:32 PM
Maybe they dumped that
MLagaffe 5/10/2018 12:32 PM
i know, but this is an emulator with a hd texture pack replacement on the fly
12:33 PM
like dolphin, project64, ppsspp, etc
12:33 PM
it's just official.
12:34 PM
As for the GBA emulation on GC, both games that used it required the actual cartridges to be linked
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 12:34 PM
Then again, gxx files have to use a png to display properly... So they could just be skipping a step (edited)
MLagaffe 5/10/2018 12:35 PM
with the GBA/GC cable, and pretended it's pulled off the link cable (whose bandwidth can't nearly even do that transfer quickly, much less real time streaming from GBA, so there are gba roms stored on the gc disk)
12:35 PM
the ones in naruto collection are heavily modified, both the roms and the emulator
12:36 PM
but it can still run some injected gba games, with tons of glitches and no sound
12:36 PM
the n64 one is nearly perfect
12:36 PM
but again, only run the zelda games, mario 64, and just a handful other very basic games
12:37 PM
in case that wasn't clear about PSPHD,
12:38 PM
it has an untouched (?) PSP iso, and pulls most of the game assets as upscaled png files included with the emulator
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 12:38 PM
Ppsspp doesn't have an HD texture pack from what I see
MLagaffe 5/10/2018 12:39 PM
more verification is needed though. but i can confirm at least i saw the extracted png images from that external texture pack.
12:39 PM
i don't have the games themselves yet
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 12:41 PM
I can extract big gxt images now (edited)
12:41 PM
Some neat unused stuff
12:41 PM
All the dark heroes in these cards are holding spears except for ragewolf
12:41 PM
12:42 PM
FMecha 5/10/2018 1:19 PM
X the Ball was published by Tecmo in Japan https://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=flyer&db=arcadedb&id=633&image=1
Rena 5/10/2018 4:45 PM
With N64 it's not surprising that compatibility is limited. Emulators usually interpret the graphic commands directly instead of simulating the RSP chip. If they don't support the commands used by a game, it won't work.
4:46 PM
There are only a handful of different command sets but they're not going to bother implementing ones they didn't need
Deleted User 73f1c0b5 5/10/2018 5:00 PM
handful of different command sets most developers tweaked things to their needs
Rena 5/10/2018 5:05 PM
I just remembered in Banjo Kazooie, you can combine some of the cheat codes. Like typing "blueredgoldfeathers" would refill all your items if you'd unlocked the cheats. I wonder if that's a bug?
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 5:25 PM
maybe, maybe not
5:25 PM
you mean like
5:26 PM
blue feathers, red feathers, gold feathers? @Rena
5:26 PM
if so thats not a bug
Rena 5/10/2018 5:29 PM
no, you type one string to fill all three
5:29 PM
like BLUEREDGOLDFEATHERS = BLUEEGGS + REDFEATHERS + GOLDFEATHERS
Rena 5/10/2018 5:39 PM
so should it be documented? I'm pretty sure it's not given in the game
Revenant 5/10/2018 6:19 PM
it seems pretty well documented already
Rena 5/10/2018 6:24 PM
where?
Revenant 5/10/2018 6:25 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22BLUEREDGOLDFEATHERS%22 (edited)
Rena 5/10/2018 6:25 PM
so not on TCRF
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 6:27 PM
hmmm
6:27 PM
the multi demo for patapon 3
6:27 PM
has an awful lot of map data
6:28 PM
for something that just came out of e3
Revenant 5/10/2018 6:29 PM
@Rena generally if a cheat is already documented and isn't related to unused or debug content then it doesn't belong here
Rena 5/10/2018 6:29 PM
it IS unused
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 6:30 PM
how?
Rena 5/10/2018 6:31 PM
the same way all the "unlock xyz" ones are
Revenant 5/10/2018 6:35 PM
i don't follow
6:35 PM
as long as it actually does something, i don't see how it's "unused" just because the game doesn't tell you it exists or something
Rena 5/10/2018 6:36 PM
that could be said of a lot of cheat codes on TCRF, including the others for the same game
Revenant 5/10/2018 6:39 PM
the only other ones i see in the banjo-kazooie article are for the stop & swop items, which basically could be considered "unused items" or whatever since they were for a scrapped feature
Rena 5/10/2018 6:40 PM
check the notes page
6:40 PM
hell it even lists the ones that are given in-game
Revenant 5/10/2018 6:44 PM
there aren't really any guidelines about content in notes pages (likewise just feel free to add it there, i guess)
6:44 PM
but "don't add cheat codes except for __" has pretty much always been a guideline for actual articles
Rena 5/10/2018 6:48 PM
well originally I was asking if it's known to be an actual implemented cheat or a bug in how it reads them
Revenant 5/10/2018 6:51 PM
good question
6:51 PM
probably at least worth mentioning on the talk page or something
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 6:54 PM
implemented cheat probably
Rena 5/10/2018 6:54 PM
I remember there being other weird ones
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 6:55 PM
ill check out the rom real quick
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 7:04 PM
wow nintendo packs their stuff better than sony does
Rena 5/10/2018 7:05 PM
check in a RAM d ump
leilei 5/10/2018 7:07 PM
i'm sad the snes classic doesn't carry the same scent a fresh snes did
punk7890 5/10/2018 7:43 PM
hi
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/10/2018 7:44 PM
hi
punk7890 5/10/2018 7:45 PM
what's newか (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/10/2018 8:11 PM
not sure if this is worth posting about
8:11 PM
8:11 PM
guild wars 2 has an unfinished path in dragon's reach, part of the heart of thorns expac
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/10/2018 8:32 PM
so why is there no unused models in breath of the mild?
Halfbit 5/10/2018 8:38 PM
Hewwo
Nex 5/10/2018 9:01 PM
heyo
Neko May 5/10/2018 9:04 PM
waves
divingkxt 5/10/2018 10:52 PM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 I'm not surprised.
10:53 PM
Considering that Sony has way more disc space to waste than Nintendo does.
10:54 PM
@Revenant I'd imagine it's unused in the sense no guides at the time (official or otherwise), no manuals, and no in-game prompts tell you about the cheat.
Revenant 5/10/2018 10:55 PM
in other words, it's a cheat code
divingkxt 5/10/2018 10:59 PM
Also, in the sense no magazines covered it to anyone's knowledge.
10:59 PM
So in that sense, it qualifies as a previously unpublished cheat.
10:59 PM
But yeah... here's the page Rena's talking about - https://tcrf.net/Notes:Banjo-Kazooie
Notes:Banjo-Kazooie
Revenant 5/10/2018 11:01 PM
yeah i know
11:01 PM
but it's not "unpublished" in that the first google result is ign.com
11:02 PM
and the next results are multiple cheat sites
11:03 PM
so unless it really is the result of a parsing bug or whatever then it's pretty much out of scope
Neko May 5/10/2018 11:05 PM
It's not the only page on the site with cheat codes, by far
divingkxt 5/10/2018 11:08 PM
Yeah, but usually the cheat codes allowed are for accessing debugging stuff or were previously completely unknown.
11:08 PM
Or level selects. Or sound tests.
Revenant 5/10/2018 11:08 PM
yes
11:09 PM
whenever i've added cheats to an article it's one of the few kinds that are expressly allowed or else one that i was literally the first one to document online
punk7890 5/10/2018 11:09 PM
yeah I've documented some undiscovered cheats before
11:09 PM
which is allowed, yes?
divingkxt 5/10/2018 11:09 PM
Yes.
punk7890 5/10/2018 11:10 PM
Revenant 5/10/2018 11:10 PM
only exception i can remember is when i found a money cheat in SNES sim city 2000 that i didn't think felt justified an entire new article so i just got vaguerant to submit it to gamefaqs because i couldn't remember my login information there
Neko May 5/10/2018 11:10 PM
How do we know we didn't find them and IGN just ripped them off?
Revenant 5/10/2018 11:11 PM
the one i'm talking about is not presently listed on TCRF
11:11 PM
(re: banjo-kazooie, i mean)
Neko May 5/10/2018 11:12 PM
Hm.
Revenant 5/10/2018 11:12 PM
(one of the google results for it is hosted on angelfire, if that is a better example)
Neko May 5/10/2018 11:14 PM
nods
divingkxt 5/10/2018 11:44 PM
https://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?pid=456745#456745
Jul -- The Cutting Room Floor: Help create account
https://tcrf.net/Special:UserLogin/signup please help create account without password: User name: SpongeBob 132 E-mail address: edward.generalov@yandex.ru...
11:44 PM
He's still at it.
11:45 PM
Can we just delete any message that contains his e-mail address?
11:48 PM
Yes.
DarthDubඞ 5/10/2018 11:50 PM
oh gosh
11:50 PM
i feel sorry for you guys
11:50 PM
oh btw thanks for editing my upload for xenoblade 2
11:51 PM
i wasn't sure if it was labeled as Switch or Nintendo Switch
divingkxt 5/10/2018 11:51 PM
Nintendo Switch
DarthDubඞ 5/10/2018 11:51 PM
yeah
divingkxt 5/10/2018 11:51 PM
Because Switch alone was too confusing.
GerbilSoft 5/10/2018 11:55 PM
11:55 PM
alternatively, have it automatically replace his email address with TCRF-SucksIcon.gif
divingkxt 5/10/2018 11:56 PM
That would be even better.
11:56 PM
@Xkeeper ^
11:57 PM
Have Inuyasha, BMF, or you change Edward Generalov's e-mail address to that.
Xkeeper 5/11/2018 12:39 AM
lsigh
Deleted User 5/11/2018 1:16 AM
heyo
divingkxt 5/11/2018 1:20 AM
How's the KotOR article going?
1:20 AM
Or rather KotOR 2?
JacobLenstar 5/11/2018 1:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycP-q4OIFko this video has some early diddy kong racing footage
Killertamagotchi
Nintendo 64 - Wieviel 3D hältst du aus? (1997 Promotion VHS)
1:22 AM
not super early
1:22 AM
but like
1:22 AM
I see a few differences
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 1:22 AM
1997
1:22 AM
sounds pretty early to me
JacobLenstar 5/11/2018 1:22 AM
2
caff!!! 5/11/2018 1:24 AM
Nice find
JacobLenstar 5/11/2018 1:24 AM
okay I take that back
1:25 AM
I think the overworld is different
1:25 AM
and krunch getting hit in the intro looks slightly different
1:26 AM
wait which level is this?
punk7890 5/11/2018 1:28 AM
Version 1.1605 is in the final game for some reason
JacobLenstar 5/11/2018 1:28 AM
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Diddy_Kong_Racing oh
Prerelease:Diddy Kong Racing
1:28 AM
someone already found the video
1:28 AM
oh it is pirate lagoon
1:28 AM
I don't remember it being at sunset
1:29 AM
then again I haven't played the game in almost a decade so nevermind
punk7890 5/11/2018 1:29 AM
"1.1605" and "02/10/97 16:03" to be exact
1:29 AM
at least in the USA version
JacobLenstar 5/11/2018 1:30 AM
early versions of rare games have always been mystifying
punk7890 5/11/2018 1:30 AM
indeed
1:30 AM
Jet Force Gemini was rather different as well.
JacobLenstar 5/11/2018 1:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXKYEv7kYxs still freaking mystifying
Unseen64: an Archive for Beta & Cancelled Games
Banjo Kazooie Beta Video [E3 1997?] N64
punk7890 5/11/2018 1:30 AM
Ah yeah
JacobLenstar 5/11/2018 1:30 AM
even after seeing a lot more early banjo footage since
1:31 AM
the rare revealed videos
1:31 AM
it felt soooo good to see those early builds in full quality
1:32 AM
I still want more
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 1:32 AM
i'm excited about the majora's mask prerelease page
leilei 5/11/2018 1:42 AM
i wonder about early blast corps stuff
1:42 AM
that apparently had a bit of pre-production in 1994 before rare actually got their ultra64n64 hardware to work with (edited)
Neko May 5/11/2018 1:52 AM
I love Blast Corps
1:53 AM
Very underrated title
punk7890 5/11/2018 1:56 AM
Yeah, it was pretty fun.
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 1:59 AM
i've played it, it's fun
Revenant 5/11/2018 2:02 AM
blast corps is great except some of the missions are completely agonizing
punk7890 5/11/2018 2:02 AM
I still own it
2:02 AM
Yeah, I remember that as well but I can't remember what mission.
caff!!! 5/11/2018 2:03 AM
The gdq blast corps run is great, and the commentary was amazing
2:04 AM
The billiards level
Revenant 5/11/2018 2:05 AM
@punk7890 something involving a railroad and the dump truck, if memory serves
Neko May 5/11/2018 2:05 AM
Any level with the Backlash
Revenant 5/11/2018 2:06 AM
yeah that thing
Neko May 5/11/2018 2:06 AM
@Revenant: Yes, that one. A late-game level.
Revenant 5/11/2018 2:06 AM
try something else! try something else! try something else! try something else! try something else!
Neko May 5/11/2018 2:06 AM
I think it's one of the last ones before leaving Earth
2:06 AM
Try somet- BOOM
caff!!! 5/11/2018 2:07 AM
https://youtu.be/3jRE08n5dZc
ViperMach5
Blast Corps (Bonus Music) - Orion Plaza
Neko May 5/11/2018 2:07 AM
You can pull this music up in Droidsound-E from Modland
2:08 AM
It's under Ultra64 Sound Format and I think the composer was Grant Kirkhope
2:08 AM
If not it's Graeme Norgate
2:09 AM
https://github.com/droidmjt/Droidsound
droidmjt/Droidsound
Droidsound - DOWNLOAD LINKS AT THE BOTTOM ON THE PAGE.
Revenant 5/11/2018 2:09 AM
you can get all of barry leitch's N64 game music (rush 2, top gear rally, etc) on modland except in the fasttracker 2 directory
Neko May 5/11/2018 2:10 AM
Droidsound-E has a direct link to Modland from inside the app
2:10 AM
It's the best chiptune player I've ever used
GlitterBerri 5/11/2018 2:16 AM
@DarthDubඞ I'm excited about you B)
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 2:17 AM
whoa
Neko May 5/11/2018 2:17 AM
:o
punk7890 5/11/2018 2:17 AM
GlitterBerri 5/11/2018 2:19 AM
@DarthDubඞ Assistance/feedback/anything very welcome
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/11/2018 2:19 AM
b-but GB
2:19 AM
i thought you were mine
punk7890 5/11/2018 2:19 AM
I don't know where my masterball went
GlitterBerri 5/11/2018 2:19 AM
I'm a mine
2:19 AM
Set to explode if you step on me
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 2:19 AM
kinky
Neko May 5/11/2018 2:21 AM
I thought you said "mime" at first.
GlitterBerri 5/11/2018 2:21 AM
also that
2:21 AM
@DarthDubඞ https://discord.gg/JNHAF9
2:22 AM
zelda hacking, beto-finding, and documentation general
punk7890 5/11/2018 5:12 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/994867814065467394
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug display and a hidden cheat system in Bio F.R.E.A.K.S. (N64) https://t.co/Xab4ykHtjH Some of the cheats here graphically change the characters in the game. The debug display outputs various system information on screen.
5:12 AM
EdTheNerd 5/11/2018 5:18 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/11/2018 5:38 AM
nice find!
punk7890 5/11/2018 5:39 AM
thx
2
Gilgamesh 5/11/2018 6:01 AM
hello
6:01 AM
European version TCRF update
punk7890 5/11/2018 6:03 AM
cool thanks
Gilgamesh 5/11/2018 6:03 AM
how are you?
punk7890 5/11/2018 6:04 AM
fine thanks. Yourself?
Gilgamesh 5/11/2018 6:05 AM
fine
leilei 5/11/2018 6:10 AM
players as vectormans
Gilgamesh 5/11/2018 6:29 AM
Top Gear Rally 2 TCRF update
6:29 AM
your code for Japanese and European versions
6:30 AM
Debug Display
6:30 AM
I'm looking for TGR2 Beta
punk7890 5/11/2018 6:34 AM
cool
6:34 AM
I haven't looked in that version yet
Gilgamesh 5/11/2018 6:49 AM
hum
6:49 AM
I can't found
punk7890 5/11/2018 6:50 AM
I'll look sometime
6:50 AM
wonder if the cheats are different
6:50 AM
or any other debug
6:50 AM
can you try the cheats out
6:50 AM
and see if they are the same?
Gilgamesh 5/11/2018 6:51 AM
european and japanese?
6:52 AM
yes, same
punk7890 5/11/2018 6:53 AM
no I mean the prototype version
Gilgamesh 5/11/2018 6:53 AM
build date is displays for Beta
6:53 AM
V 1999.08.31
6:53 AM
RAM is little bit different
6:54 AM
8003F844
punk7890 5/11/2018 6:54 AM
https://tcrf.net/Top_Gear_Rally_2_(Nintendo_64)#Hidden_Cheats I mean these
Top Gear Rally 2 (Nintendo 64)
Gilgamesh 5/11/2018 6:54 AM
romhustler
skeletonhugger 5/11/2018 9:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnu-yMDZxAM&feature=youtu.be
13th Vessel
Inside KINGDOM HEARTS II [Research]
caff!!! 5/11/2018 10:28 AM
I think I saw that maximum points as support van code as something for the GameShark before
10:28 AM
I wonder if they never found the activation code, or didn't tell to sell sharks
Nex 5/11/2018 10:30 AM
neat video, thats a lot of research
skeletonhugger 5/11/2018 10:39 AM
while I'm at it, does anyone happen to own Visionaire Studio 3/A license for it? It's been discontinued and there's a game I want to check out, the only thing I was able to find is a download page that requires a license, and it doesn't seem like Studio 4 or 5 support Studio 3 games
caff!!! 5/11/2018 10:53 AM
well, it turns out the gameshark code included with pj64 doesn't work for unlocking in top gear rally 2 lol
Deleted User 5/11/2018 11:33 AM
Any admin active here?
Paulweeze71 5/11/2018 11:39 AM
If you are looking to get a account, submit your request at #account-requests
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/11/2018 12:04 PM
let's have a contest to see who can remake the model of the beta moblin from twilight princess the most accurately
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/11/2018 12:08 PM
Beta
Nex 5/11/2018 12:27 PM
beta reeeee
12:27 PM
and no
MysticSageJosh 5/11/2018 12:51 PM
this is like.. the only entry to this contest, and you said remake, right?
5
2
12:51 PM
never specified 2d or 3d
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/11/2018 12:53 PM
You win by default!
Nex 5/11/2018 12:58 PM
OOF
Laenthor 5/11/2018 1:01 PM
Since he's gone it's okay to post this, right?
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/11/2018 1:03 PM
@sunn that should say errors: 100 accuracy: 0% (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/11/2018 1:29 PM
Ohhh
Halfbit 5/11/2018 1:32 PM
Bowser Lightyear
MysticSageJosh 5/11/2018 1:33 PM
tcrf's new meme
1:33 PM
bowser2002
Halfbit 5/11/2018 1:35 PM
I wonder how his giant shell fits into that space suit
Dezent 5/11/2018 1:37 PM
It's a Schrödingers shell
MysticSageJosh 5/11/2018 1:38 PM
bowser is like a koopa
1:38 PM
removeable shell
1:38 PM
in this case he removed it so he could cosplay as BUZZ LIGHTYEAR
Netscape Navigator 5/11/2018 2:17 PM
bowser2002
2:17 PM
on wheels
ゲームボーイ64 5/11/2018 2:18 PM
Nyoom
Laenthor 5/11/2018 3:09 PM
I wish this was an emoji... Maybe if I put transparency on the background?
Paulweeze71 5/11/2018 3:13 PM
Deleted User 5/11/2018 4:40 PM
Could someone investigate Komiko Kids for more unused content?
punk7890 5/11/2018 8:24 PM
hi
Nex 5/11/2018 8:24 PM
yo
Paulweeze71 5/11/2018 8:37 PM
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:19 PM
These are in the game Thrill Kill, lol
Nex 5/11/2018 9:20 PM
I have questions
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:20 PM
What may they be? lol
Nex 5/11/2018 9:21 PM
who, why and how
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:22 PM
About the images in the game?
Nex 5/11/2018 9:22 PM
ye
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:24 PM
1. By god, I don't know 2. Possibly to troll with people who rip games or just put in as a development team joke 3. Depending on what you mean by how
Nex 5/11/2018 9:25 PM
in the end its probably just a joke from the devs
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:26 PM
An interesting image from a cancelled game, obviously.
9:27 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if there were hidden dev logs lurking around the code.
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:36 PM
>,PSX
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 9:37 PM
nani
9:37 PM
what is this from
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:37 PM
Thrill Kill.
9:37 PM
Really underrated game due to it being cancelled.
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 9:37 PM
oh isn't that that one super bloody fighting game that got cancelled
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:38 PM
Yep. Files got leaked way back then, but it's a fun play tbh.
9:39 PM
I wish I can open these, lol
leilei 5/11/2018 9:39 PM
cancelled because ea wanted to maintain a good image after acquiring virgin's interactive assets
9:40 PM
(which is a bit odd when EA suddenly had Alice out a couple years later, often said to be EA's first morbidly dark M game) (edited)
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 9:40 PM
EA went from lonely virgin to chad alice
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:42 PM
If Thrill Kill would've been made today, I sense it would be released.
9:43 PM
Check him out, lol
leilei 5/11/2018 9:44 PM
well, i'm sure had it been any other company that would release thrill kill then, it would be acclaim
9:44 PM
acclaim was trying to go for the edgy in that time
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:45 PM
If the game was released, it'd create a what if situation. How would Thrill Kill make an impact on gaming as we know it? Lol
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 9:45 PM
we would've gotten it over mortal kombat
leilei 5/11/2018 9:45 PM
likely would be ignored (edited)
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:45 PM
Or it'd might be the Saints Row of Mortal Kombat lol.
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 9:46 PM
where it's actually better
leilei 5/11/2018 9:46 PM
it might get a controversy mention in an article or two and then get forgotten as an embarrassing footnote
9:46 PM
influence i wouldn't think so
9:47 PM
it's not like it was a big ip like mortal kombat was
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:47 PM
9:47 PM
I was about to say something stupid, lol.
9:49 PM
I was about to say "Well, Saints Row was a small IP when it started, and it at first started as a GTA clone." which then on breaks off our current topic, lol.
9:50 PM
9:50 PM
This is a texture from a costume worn by Kleetus, the cannibal. (edited)
9:50 PM
lol
leilei 5/11/2018 9:51 PM
saints row's original saving grace was the multiplayer (edited)
9:51 PM
since gta clones at the time didn't want to bother with that
Tsugato 5/11/2018 9:52 PM
Thrill Kill has 4 player functionality, lol (edited)
9:55 PM
This folder is named shared, but for what reason?
leilei 5/11/2018 10:07 PM
probably as another word for common
10:07 PM
not exactly the best thing to do for disc loading times
10:07 PM
hence there's so little to load for it
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:12 PM
Know any programs that can open RTT and DTA files?
leilei 5/11/2018 10:14 PM
likely nothing if it's a proprietary format for an obscure unreleased game
10:14 PM
this is where quickbms scriptmaking comes in
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:15 PM
I guess so.
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/11/2018 10:16 PM
I think Alice might have gotten through because of the whole "Holy shit! One of DOOM's map designers made this!" thing.
10:16 PM
It at least worked out better than Daikitana.
leilei 5/11/2018 10:17 PM
i'd say the "powered by quake3" part might be bigger marketing than mcgee' s personal brand
10:17 PM
it's not like he was john romero
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/11/2018 10:17 PM
Well, his name was straight up in the title. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_McGee%27s_Alice
American_McGee%27s_Alice
10:18 PM
American McGee's Alice
10:18 PM
Not even Daikitana did that.
leilei 5/11/2018 10:18 PM
as opposed to, another author's alice
Revenant 5/11/2018 10:18 PM
daikatana literally had "JOHN ROMERO'S" on the box in larger type than that
leilei 5/11/2018 10:18 PM
i'm sure they'd get in trouble if it was simply ALICE
10:19 PM
of course the american mcgee brand saw trouble after bad day la lol
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:19 PM
Article from 2001, lol. https://www.macworld.com/article/1021270/alice.html
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DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 10:19 PM
i'm using dreamcast tools from 2001
Deleted User 5/11/2018 10:20 PM
American McGee's Battlegrounds
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:20 PM
no
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/11/2018 10:20 PM
@Revenant It does, but It's not actually part of the title. http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/12401-john-romero-s-daikatana-windows-back-cover.jpg
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:20 PM
Nobody really checks the back. lol
Revenant 5/11/2018 10:20 PM
tell that to mobygames
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/11/2018 10:20 PM
The back of the box just calls it "Daikatana".
Revenant 5/11/2018 10:20 PM
and wikipedia
Deleted User 5/11/2018 10:21 PM
and john romero
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 10:21 PM
it looks like a mixture of hexen and quake
Revenant 5/11/2018 10:21 PM
it still says "john romero's daikatana" right there
leilei 5/11/2018 10:21 PM
i've encountered 'daikatana was good its n64 version was crap ruined daikatanas reputation' revisionists before (edited)
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 10:21 PM
well fps aren't that fun on n64
leilei 5/11/2018 10:21 PM
mostly defending the game because you can bunnyhop and rocket jump in it
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:22 PM
Daikatana was a flop overall.
leilei 5/11/2018 10:22 PM
of course, its "ironic" fanbase coming from a certain jerkass youtuber who made it their first game review doesnt help (edited)
10:23 PM
giving daikatana kind of the millenial bubsy treatment (edited)
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:23 PM
Which brings in the line of this "You may have scored aces in your life, but all the ones after not may not hit as high as the others."
10:24 PM
I thought it was universally accepted that Bubsy is shit.
leilei 5/11/2018 10:24 PM
(sorry, "millenial bubsy" is the best terms i can come up for this instance) (edited)
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/11/2018 10:24 PM
Looking at the copyright info, "Daikatana" is trademarked as just that, no John Romero. Alice on the other hand... http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/213823-american-mcgee-s-alice-macintosh-other.jpg
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 10:24 PM
what could possibly go wrong
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/11/2018 10:25 PM
"American Mcgee's Alice are trademarks or registered trademarks of Electronic Arts inc."
leilei 5/11/2018 10:25 PM
convenient key reference on jewelcases are rare
Revenant 5/11/2018 10:25 PM
"alice" by itself probably wouldn't be eligible for a trademark
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/11/2018 10:26 PM
http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/88713-john-romero-s-daikatana-windows-other.jpg Here's a better view of Daikatana trademarks.
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:26 PM
Once it's EA's, it will always be EA's.
DarthDubඞ 5/11/2018 10:26 PM
rip renderware
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:27 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/20060814225229/http://www.renderware.com//
Welcome to RenderWare
RenderWare is empowering developers to be creative within a mature, professional software engineering environment. There are over 500 current generation RenderWare games in development or published world-wide. Today 1 in 4 console titles in pre-p...
Deleted User 5/11/2018 10:28 PM
they used renderware in persona 3 and 4
leilei 5/11/2018 10:28 PM
no
10:28 PM
netimmerse
10:29 PM
->gamebryo
10:29 PM
->"from scratch" (edited)
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:29 PM
Renderware was actually awesome for it's time, but dang, it went down quick.
leilei 5/11/2018 10:30 PM
quick? it's been around longer (edited)
10:30 PM
earliest renderware game i can think of is Locus (1995) (edited)
10:30 PM
also there's a possibility renderware was used in Critter Clash and Sento (1994) since criterion was in the thanks for those
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:31 PM
I didn't say the start, more or the the ending. They just blammoed out of there.
leilei 5/11/2018 10:32 PM
15 years of renderware isn't too bad
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:33 PM
I forget this, but what did Rise of the Triad run on?
leilei 5/11/2018 10:33 PM
fast 386dxs and 486s and early pentiums (edited)
10:34 PM
oh you mean engine? a modified wolf3d
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:34 PM
Yep.
leilei 5/11/2018 10:34 PM
it was originally a wolf3d sequel, so it does make 503% sense
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:35 PM
That game is a perfect example of early FPS games.
leilei 5/11/2018 10:36 PM
Bethesda Softworks invented the FPS genre with Terminator Rampage
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:36 PM
lol
10:37 PM
I want to get my hand on some old game engines, a program small games for fun. Lol
leilei 5/11/2018 10:40 PM
rott was nearly considering an engine switch to build too
10:40 PM
good thing it didn't
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:41 PM
Indeed
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 10:46 PM
i love finding developer rage messages in games
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:46 PM
Any spicy ones you found currently? Lol
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 10:47 PM
I found some great ones in Rally Championship XTreme
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:47 PM
Might get it and take a peak for myself, lol
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 10:49 PM
`***WARNING***: Checkpoint has lost the fucking road MaxCoord(%f,%f,%f) *** ERROR ***: Missing wipers (fucking fix) Mip is Fucked! (shows up x3) COMPRESSOR FUCKED... SEE PAULIE` (edited)
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:50 PM
LOL
10:50 PM
Developer quarrel
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 10:50 PM
I talked to that Paulie guy in hopes of getting his compression method for this game (it's custom :(), he didn't even know of that string
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:51 PM
o
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 10:51 PM
OH yeah, this exists too XD `FUDGEFUDGEGLORIOUSFUDGE ***ERROR*** Wank sunshade please get PAH to fix. splashShutdown called for no reason` (edited)
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:52 PM
LOL
10:52 PM
What file are they under?
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 10:52 PM
All in the EXE
10:52 PM
Oh boy, wonder how to cause this message `Wow!!!!!!` (edited)
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:52 PM
o wow, how do you check out the exe? I'm dumb to this kind of stuff, lol
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 10:53 PM
Also `Bullshit detected!`. Seems like there was a little programmer rage here
10:55 PM
I use OllyDbg myself to look for this stuff
10:55 PM
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:56 PM
o
10:57 PM
What address is all the stuff?
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 10:57 PM
When you search all referenced text strings it just finds them all
Tsugato 5/11/2018 10:58 PM
o
10:58 PM
Oh wow, that's really useful.
10:58 PM
I'm getting it for my ventures, lol.
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 11:00 PM
Also found this, hehe `CardSpecific : 3Dfx Voodoo4/5 -> Decompressign non-square textures. I haven't actually tried this on a Voodoo4, but QA tells me that it's quite close to the Voodoo5... So, if you see this, you've hopfully got a 3Dfx that isn't a Voodoo3 -Morten-`
Tsugato 5/11/2018 11:00 PM
Daily Tips by Morten
11:01 PM
f(x)^3 5/11/2018 11:10 PM
Just noticed decompressing is misspelled too
leilei 5/11/2018 11:10 PM
well technically a v4 is a v5 with one less core
11:10 PM
and v4 is part of v3's lineage
11:11 PM
and v3 doesn't have fxt texture compression iirc (edited)
divingkxt 5/11/2018 11:25 PM
Yeah, easy for forget that a lot of early accelerators had issues doing textures.
11:25 PM
Of course, GPUs are being used for everything under the sun.
11:25 PM
Making me really want to utilize OpenCL in my emulator for things like MMUs and stuff.
leilei 5/11/2018 11:46 PM
especially earlier when the best is a rgb565/rgba4444 guaranteed across many vendors
eientei 5/11/2018 11:46 PM
Huh, the trademark for "DEUS EX INVISIBLE WAR" was renewed 5th March 2016
leilei 5/11/2018 11:46 PM
eidossqueenix london needs to renew it to sell the game (edited)
eientei 5/11/2018 11:47 PM
and before that trademark was filed, one was filed for "DX2: INVISIBLE WAR"
11:48 PM
DirectX 2: Invisible War
Tsugato 5/11/2018 11:49 PM
Lol
punk7890 5/11/2018 11:49 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/995148870416875520
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found some unused text strings in Doom 64 https://t.co/joGn3QR8JT While these strings have been known, I made a GameShark code to re-enable them. Sadly, they don't have any functionality anymore. I wonder what Warp to Fun would have done. Ther...
11:49 PM
leilei 5/11/2018 11:50 PM
*pokes @Sneaker ^
11:50 PM
maybe warp to fun is another midway red herring
eientei 5/11/2018 11:50 PM
Anyone know wtf this is? Trademarked by Ion Sotrm, renewed by SquEnix
leilei 5/11/2018 11:50 PM
there is no fun in games
punk7890 5/11/2018 11:50 PM
can't have fun
leilei 5/11/2018 11:50 PM
deus ex's logo mark (edited)
11:51 PM
it's big and spinning in the original two dx games (edited)
Tsugato 5/11/2018 11:51 PM
^
eientei 5/11/2018 11:51 PM
@leilei Thanks. Trademark only gives it as "DL"
leilei 5/11/2018 11:51 PM
DeusexLogo
eientei 5/11/2018 11:51 PM
Deus Lex
11:51 PM
>The mark consists of a circle and the letters "D" and "L" intersecting.
Tsugato 5/11/2018 11:52 PM
Desexu
leilei 5/11/2018 11:52 PM
it's supposed to look like a DX when connected, for, Deus eX (edited)
eientei 5/11/2018 11:52 PM
TINYTENDO 64
11:52 PM
>Filing Date January 5, 2018
11:52 PM
>Abandonment Date March 28, 2018
11:53 PM
RIP Mini 64
Tsugato 5/11/2018 11:53 PM
Quick abandonment, lol
leilei 5/11/2018 11:53 PM
just like perfect dark is a flipped techy 69
eientei 5/11/2018 11:53 PM
>Owner (APPLICANT) Shook Ideas LLC DBA Collector Craft LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY IDAHO 405 S 8th St Ste 365 Boise IDAHO 83702
Tsugato 5/11/2018 11:54 PM
So, I can't find the shit the dude was looking for.
11:55 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
divingkxt 5/11/2018 11:55 PM
@eientei There ain't much the N64 got beyond what Nintendo and Rare brought.
leilei 5/11/2018 11:56 PM
titus brought some classics
eientei 5/11/2018 11:56 PM
That Tinytendo 64 is registered by these guys: https://collectorcraft.com/collections/frontpage
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leilei 5/11/2018 11:56 PM
oh no
11:57 PM
pi3b's suck at n64 emulation
Tsugato 5/11/2018 11:57 PM
^^^^
eientei 5/12/2018 12:00 AM
Word Mark NINTENDO
>Goods and Services IC 009. US 022. G & S: Coin Operated Electronic and Video Games. FIRST USE: 19790221. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19790813
12:00 AM
>(CANCELLED) IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: [ Playing Cards ]. FIRST USE: 18871011. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19351011
12:01 AM
Those first use dates are interesting
leilei 5/12/2018 12:01 AM
hanafuda cards?
Revenant 5/12/2018 12:03 AM
1887 is interesting since they weren't officially founded until 1889
eientei 5/12/2018 12:04 AM
Huh, it wasn't until 2003 did Squeenix own the Dragon Warrior trademark, as it was applied for by Ninty
12:04 AM
Oh whoops
12:04 AM
1993
leilei 5/12/2018 12:04 AM
enix and square were separate entities before that point (edited)
cuba200611 5/12/2018 12:05 AM
Yeah, they didn't merge until 2003.
12:05 AM
And the Dragon Quest trademark in the US was originally owned by TSR.
12:06 AM
Hence why the video game series' name change to Dragon Warrior here in the US. (edited)
divingkxt 5/12/2018 12:06 AM
:themoreyouknow:
cuba200611 5/12/2018 12:06 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DragonQuest
DragonQuest
DragonQuest is a fantasy role-playing game originally published by Simulations Publications (SPI) in 1980. Where first generation fantasy role-playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons restricted players to particular character classes, DragonQues...
DarthDubඞ 5/12/2018 12:07 AM
reminds me of star fox on the atari
eientei 5/12/2018 12:07 AM
@cuba200611 But TSR didn't get the Dragon Quest trademark until 1993
12:07 AM
Goods and Services (CANCELLED) IC 028. US 022. G & S: fantasy role-playing games and board games, and game accessories; namely, booklets containing role-playing game scenarios. FIRST USE: 19920800. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19920800
12:07 AM
Registration Date June 8, 1993 Owner (REGISTRANT) TSR, Inc. CORPORATION WISCONSIN 1801 LIND AVENUE SW RENTON WASHINGTON 98055
12:08 AM
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=74326964&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Revenant 5/12/2018 12:08 AM
the TSR/SPI DragonQuest was first published in 1980
12:09 AM
TSR weren't the original trademark owners, they acquired SPI at some point later
eientei 5/12/2018 12:09 AM
Right, and DragonQuest was a different trademark
Revenant 5/12/2018 12:09 AM
they're the same thing
eientei 5/12/2018 12:10 AM
If the space matters so much, how did "Dragonquest" get trademarked in 2005
12:10 AM
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=78654488&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Revenant 5/12/2018 12:10 AM
it didn't
12:10 AM
the application was abandoned
eientei 5/12/2018 12:10 AM
It did
12:10 AM
The registration was valid until 2006
12:11 AM
Also TSR Hobbies, Inc. were the original DragonQuest trademark owners http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73275939&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Revenant 5/12/2018 12:11 AM
it was applied for and then abandoned before actually being granted
12:13 AM
also that page just lists TSR as the owner because they were the current owner by the time the trademark information was last updated, in 2004
12:14 AM
or wait, i guess they did buy out SPI a bit earlier than i thought
eientei 5/12/2018 12:14 AM
Yeah, 1982
12:16 AM
Also weird. Pilotwings's trademark was never renewed.
12:17 AM
Didn't they put that on Wii VC at least
Revenant 5/12/2018 12:19 AM
yeah, it's not exactly an active franchise though
12:19 AM
"pilotwings resort" is still an active trademark
eientei 5/12/2018 12:19 AM
Yeah
MxArgent 5/12/2018 12:20 AM
Eyo
Tsugato 5/12/2018 12:40 AM
Granola Boy? What the fuck.
12:41 AM
00000051E764 00000051E764 and The New Tetris is all I can say.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 12:48 AM
Is BinText even a good tool? Lots of shit in this ROM seems corrupted. Compared with an actual hex editor, it's all mashed potatoes and gravy right there. Lol
divingkxt 5/12/2018 12:56 AM
@Tsugato Incorrect byte order.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 12:56 AM
o
divingkxt 5/12/2018 12:57 AM
Use a program like dd in Cygwin and type dd conv=swab <infile >outfile
12:58 AM
There's also a program that can search for strings in either little endian or big endian.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 12:58 AM
Does dd come with Cygwin, or do you have to get it seperatley?
divingkxt 5/12/2018 12:59 AM
Comes with Cygwin.
12:59 AM
Or with almost any Unix distribution.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 12:59 AM
o
divingkxt 5/12/2018 1:00 AM
What I think is going on here is that the dump is a big-endian dump, parsing it over 16 bits. (edited)
Tsugato 5/12/2018 1:00 AM
Granola Boy, lol
divingkxt 5/12/2018 1:00 AM
Anyhow, we already have The New Tetris on the site.
1:01 AM
In fact, one of the oldest finds.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 1:01 AM
Indeed, but I still do want to peak at it out of curiosity. Lol
divingkxt 5/12/2018 1:02 AM
Actually
ThePeeper.zip
149.92 KB
1:03 AM
Here's one better.
1:03 AM
An obscure and hard-to-find program specifically made for searching byte-reversed strings.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 1:03 AM
o
1:06 AM
do u even engrish bro?
1:06 AM
lol
1:06 AM
There we go
1:07 AM
Finally, not speaking caveman at me.
1:08 AM
Thank you, lol. @divingkxt
eientei 5/12/2018 1:09 AM
or you could convert the rom to .z64 (edited)
Tsugato 5/12/2018 5:09 AM
Anybody up for a peak?
5:13 AM
>DRMUTO.00 >1.9GBs What the Hel is in there? Lol
5:13 AM
Time to dive in then lol
5:14 AM
Inaccessible file, fml
Tsugato 5/12/2018 5:22 AM
I don't know why, but whenever I boot it in Daemon tools, because it won't let me rip it normally, it starts disconnecting from the virtual disc drive after 85%,
5:25 AM
No joke, this spoops me
5:27 AM
91% yes I'm getting close
5:29 AM
I've never wanted to reeee so much ever in my life right now.
5:33 AM
Well... I found out I can extract the file with 7zip, so I basically wasted time using Daemon tools to extract it.
Mine18 5/12/2018 5:35 AM
nice
Tsugato 5/12/2018 5:37 AM
The next thing is... trying to actually open it. It's a file file so I can't just open it in WinRar or 7Zip.
augitesoul 5/12/2018 5:50 AM
what about changing the extension?
punk7890 5/12/2018 5:56 AM
let me know if there is any debug menu text in the SLUS
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:04 AM
@augitesoul Did that, did rar, 7zip, and zip. Basically corrupted.
augitesoul 5/12/2018 6:05 AM
Also isn't there an option to load any file in 7zip or something
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:07 AM
punk7890 5/12/2018 6:48 AM
debug incoming
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:49 AM
O
punk7890 5/12/2018 6:52 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/995255444208734208
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in The King of Route 66 (PS2) https://t.co/YlcZ2fpSrD Contains a working sound test menu and a cutscene / model viewer among quick start options.
6:52 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 7:17 AM
nice!
punk7890 5/12/2018 7:18 AM
thanks
Pixel 5/12/2018 9:20 AM
Hello there! I've joined this server just to show that I found undocumented "prototype"/ place holder version of Battle Mode menu in Shadow The Hedgehog (Xbox version)
Tsugato 5/12/2018 9:23 AM
Got the prototype? @Pixel
Pixel 5/12/2018 9:23 AM
Saddly no
9:23 AM
It's just a leftover in Xbox version files
Deleted User 5/12/2018 9:23 AM
well that is a good discovery
Tsugato 5/12/2018 9:24 AM
Indeed.
Pixel 5/12/2018 9:24 AM
Afaik it's only in Xbox
Tsugato 5/12/2018 9:24 AM
Was Shadow The Hedgehog on Xbox?
Pixel 5/12/2018 9:25 AM
Yep
9:25 AM
Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox
Tsugato 5/12/2018 9:25 AM
I own the PS2 copy, lol
Pixel 5/12/2018 9:28 AM
I don't have an account so I can't contribute it yet. But I just wanted to post it here for now
Tsugato 5/12/2018 9:29 AM
Current registration seem to be down, but if you do plan to soon join go to #account-requests
Pixel 5/12/2018 9:32 AM
ok
Mine18 5/12/2018 10:21 AM
nice
10:21 AM
the page pretty empty so any contribution is good (edited)
10:22 AM
i remember when i wanted someone to help with the editing of the page
10:23 AM
now i kind of regret and i rewrote my entire edit to make it much more smaller
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 10:51 AM
10:52 AM
I found debug menu in SIMPLE 1500 series Vol.38 The Real Racing.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 10:52 AM
http://pscode.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E4%BF%BA%E3%81%AE%E5%B1%8D%E3%82%92%E8%B6%8A%E3%81%88%E3%81%A6%E3%82%86%E3%81%91
俺の屍を越えてゆけ - PS改造コードまとめ
プレーステーション１でリリースされているゲームの改造コードを紹介しています
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/12/2018 10:52 AM
SIMPLE debug series more like
Tsugato 5/12/2018 11:00 AM
Oo interesting.
Revenant 5/12/2018 11:09 AM
probably worth looking for debug stuff in known psx games by TOSE
11:09 AM
i found like 50 of them just by going down their list of SNES games on GDRI
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 11:10 AM
are you also including games only devved by them
Revenant 5/12/2018 11:10 AM
anything they had involvement with
11:10 AM
based on http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Tose
Tose
Tose Co., Ltd. (株式会社トーセ) was established on November 1, 1979, as an off-shoot of Toa Seiko. The company is notorious for being very secretive about the games it develops. It has reportedly worked on over 2,200 titles, the first bein...
divingkxt 5/12/2018 11:11 AM
Heck, make that any game they have worked on ever.
11:11 AM
Almost any game.
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 11:17 AM
wow, many title for ps1!
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 11:25 AM
A lot of famicom games too
Tsugato 5/12/2018 11:40 AM
o wow
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 11:40 AM
"Bokujou Monogatari" has debug text. I check more detail.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 11:59 AM
I think we have about 60% of the official combined NES and Famicom library.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:01 PM
i never thought of it that way
12:01 PM
huh
divingkxt 5/12/2018 12:01 PM
Possibly more.
12:01 PM
We put all the Famicom and NES games in the NES category, as the two are basically the same.
12:02 PM
There are some hardware differences, but usually don't affect the game.
12:02 PM
And it's mostly either mapper or music chip related.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:03 PM
And we have about 20% of ps2 games
12:04 PM
Thanks to @punk7890
divingkxt 5/12/2018 12:04 PM
10 titles away from 400 PS1 titles.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:05 PM
looking at tcrf in japanese, I’ve only today figured out that the kanji for page is pronounced the same way in katakana
12:06 PM
頁 ページ
12:06 PM
strange
12:07 PM
but interesting
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 12:07 PM
It is 当て字 (Ateji) like a 倶楽部(くらぶ, club)
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:08 PM
Neat, thanks. (edited)
FMecha 5/12/2018 12:28 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ [re the Real Racing] it's based on Advan Racing, so once I investigate it and Netz Toyota Racing, I might merge them into one Advan Racing page
12:29 PM
No wait, you already made one
12:29 PM
I'll get Netz Toyota Racing too
12:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0c4tN9AZrM
ghegs
Netz Toyota Racing, a rare and obscure PS1 racing game
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 12:33 PM
perhaps They are same program even address/code.
FMecha 5/12/2018 12:33 PM
Same engine, as well
Dezent 5/12/2018 12:33 PM
I like the Toyota Chaser clip in that lol
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:34 PM
by that thought, they would have just reskinned the game’s textures and menu screens
12:34 PM
Maybe some code could have been changed (edited)
Dezent 5/12/2018 12:36 PM
Why does that option menu design resemble Gran Turismo 1 a little bit?
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 12:36 PM
yeah, but Advan Racing and The Real Racing can use code "30010224 0001". The Real Racing also has changed menu.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:37 PM
Then the game might have just been reskinned. Does the code do the same thing? (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 12:39 PM
perhaps. both 0x80010224 is flag table.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:40 PM
Hmmm
12:41 PM
If that theory doesn’t stand, then maybe they just reused certain parts of the code that allows the code to work.
Andreelikes 5/12/2018 12:42 PM
Which one came first, Advan Racing or The Real Racing?
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 12:42 PM
Advan Racing
Andreelikes 5/12/2018 12:42 PM
So there might be leftovers from The Real Racing.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:43 PM
You mean in the real racing?
Andreelikes 5/12/2018 12:43 PM
I mean like The Real Racing leftovers in Advan Racing.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:44 PM
If advan racing came first, then there would be leftovers from advan racing in the real racing
Tsugato 5/12/2018 12:44 PM
FMecha 5/12/2018 12:46 PM
Release order is Advan -> Netz -> Real
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:46 PM
Not the other way around
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 12:47 PM
Advan Racing movies left over in The Real Racing. "ADVAN/*.STR" (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 12:49 PM
They work as nice padding
FMecha 5/12/2018 1:29 PM
`Nov 6 2000 20:35:29`
1:29 PM
The Pro Wrestling 2 build date
1:30 PM
Smackdown 2 doesn't even have a build date in RAM (edited)
Spyro 2025 5/12/2018 1:33 PM
https://youtu.be/Xu58xH6Qylk
A Blob
Sonic Forces - All Unused English Lines
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 1:43 PM
1:43 PM
I found debug mode in Bokujou Monogatari Harvest Moon for girl.
FMecha 5/12/2018 1:45 PM
By the way I poked though RAM and found no signs of debug menu in The Pro Wrestling 2
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 1:46 PM
yeah, I did not found debug text in The Pro Wrestling 2. but There is sound test.
Spyro 2025 5/12/2018 1:46 PM
People, listen the video, plz? https://youtu.be/Xu58xH6Qylk (edited)
A Blob
Sonic Forces - All Unused English Lines
🐮 5/12/2018 3:35 PM
I am listening.
3:39 PM
How does so much go unused?...
divingkxt 5/12/2018 3:44 PM
Well, rushed development for one.
3:44 PM
It was supposed to be a VR game, but Sonic Team probably didn't implement it in time.
3:44 PM
How would a VR Sonic game work anyway?
🐮 5/12/2018 3:46 PM
I guess it was more of a statement than a question... Yes, I remember the CONFIDENTIAL DEMO title screen found in the files
3:46 PM
That is a curious question
Huks 5/12/2018 4:00 PM
First-person VR Sonic game
4:00 PM
Every time you jump or spin you vomit all over the couch
divingkxt 5/12/2018 4:01 PM
Pretty much the only way to do a VR Sonic game that's in first person is to have graphical indicators rather than a camera moving with Sonic's face.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 5:14 PM
http://gamedevs.org/uploads/monolith-claw.pdf
Netscape Navigator 5/12/2018 5:39 PM
vr sonic game where you play as tails and have to make enough chilli dogs for Sonic, Classic Sonic, Boom Sonic and the avatar (edited)
Tsugato 5/12/2018 5:39 PM
^^^^
5:39 PM
LOL
5:40 PM
Just came in here, and just saw that.
z20kdc 5/12/2018 5:42 PM
Going to have to agree, that would be a fun game.
Netscape Navigator 5/12/2018 5:43 PM
in all seriousness it would have to be gimmicky like Tails' Workshop
5:43 PM
or they listen to the 50 hardcode chao garden fans constantly tweeting at sega
5:43 PM
i thought Lucky's Tale was disorienting enough and that is just a generic platformer from a VR perspective
Tsugato 5/12/2018 5:55 PM
This is something... I'm new to this finding debug menus, like to experiment with my boundaries and such, but I was immediately caught by this, lol.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 5:58 PM
@Tsugato Is that from a PlayStation 1 game?
Tsugato 5/12/2018 5:58 PM
Yep.
5:58 PM
Thrill Kill, tbh
divingkxt 5/12/2018 5:59 PM
I mention that because that's in practically every PS1 game ever made. https://tcrf.net/PlayStation#Standard_Libraries
PlayStation
Tsugato 5/12/2018 5:59 PM
well i'm dumb
Blaring Coder 395 5/12/2018 5:59 PM
Electronic Arts requested Virgin to cancel this game
divingkxt 5/12/2018 5:59 PM
Well...It's more than most people don't really look inside PS1 executables often.
1
5:59 PM
As for Thrill Kill, no surprise it was canned.
1
5:59 PM
It was rated AO at one point.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 5:59 PM
Yeah
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:00 PM
Much to the horror of Sony.
6:00 PM
They don't allow AO rated titles now, as they're mostly porn.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:00 PM
lol
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:00 PM
And occasionally gorn.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:01 PM
but if it’s just violence and a hell of a lot of language
6:01 PM
then you have to clean out your game?
6:02 PM
Like how the mpaa works with 400 words that are foul or something like that
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:02 PM
If the MPAA did it, the ESRB can do it too.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:03 PM
Yeah
6:03 PM
Serious question though
6:03 PM
Why is the cero more strict than the ESRB?
6:04 PM
I heard it was something other than cultural differences
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:04 PM
Because CERO has actual parents in it.
🐮 5/12/2018 6:05 PM
Ha!
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:05 PM
And yes, there are cultural differences involved too.
goat 5/12/2018 6:05 PM
there's some weird stuff going on right now over in the nintendo scene
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:05 PM
Not sure if it's better or worse, honestly.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:05 PM
so then, that’s why they’re stricter on violence and blood than nudity?
6:05 PM
Ok
goat 5/12/2018 6:05 PM
there's a chinese nvidia shield emulator for gamecube/wii games that runs twilight princess fairly flawlessly
🐮 5/12/2018 6:05 PM
Games that are rated T or M in the US are/can be CERO Z in Japan (edited)
6:05 PM
Think about that
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:06 PM
But I’ve checked quite a few movies that got R-ratings, and (this might just apply to movies) most of them that are really bad are full of nonstop violence and gore
6:06 PM
Mostly horror movies
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:06 PM
goat: Would this emulator have any suspicious symbols like `Dolphin` in it?
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:06 PM
But games that have a fair bit of violence are near banned (edited)
6:07 PM
That doesn’t make any sense to me
6:07 PM
Then again, I’m just stupid anyways
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:07 PM
Well...nudity is also not entirely OK.
Blaring Coder 395 5/12/2018 6:07 PM
ELSPA 3 is Everyone, 11-14 is Teen (and 15 on some occasions), 15 and 18 is Mature
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:07 PM
In a better term
6:07 PM
They’re more open to sexual themes
Blaring Coder 395 5/12/2018 6:08 PM
This was pre-PEGI
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:08 PM
Less to violence though
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:08 PM
More open? Maybe, maybe not.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:08 PM
But that part doesn’t make any sense
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:08 PM
Cultural differences, man. Japanese don't care if it got tits or the holy clit. They just see violence as disorderly.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:08 PM
let me put it this way
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:08 PM
Aren't Japanese bath houses public? Dumb question.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:09 PM
@Tsugato Tits? No. Clit? Almost certainly.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:09 PM
The second matrix game got a T here, but a Z (or on some prints, and 18) in japan
6:09 PM
I don’t know which one to trust
6:09 PM
But it’s a Z, basically
6:10 PM
I can understand until dawn more, as a lot of american horror flicks get an R17 rating
6:10 PM
I don’t know, I’m just clueless
6:11 PM
Most things I see online I don’t particularly trust
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:12 PM
One thing. (may I bring up a off but yet on topic thing), J-Horror less revolves around violence so they could be more open to a more mainstream audiences. But the J-Horror that do involve full on physical violence would be thrown under the rug for the mainstream.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:12 PM
as the articles I see I don’t know whether the evidence is substantial enough, or truthful enough
6:12 PM
What does J-Horror revolve more around?
6:13 PM
an honest question
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:13 PM
I forget the word, but human something something.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:13 PM
@ゲームボーイ64 The Matrix: Path of Neo?
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:13 PM
PSYCHOLOGICAL
6:13 PM
Psychological Horror in Japanese cinema is all too common.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:14 PM
@divingkxt yeah
6:14 PM
@Tsugato sounds like the sort of horror I’d be more interested in; the modern “jumpscare” horror is just really cheesy and overdone.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:15 PM
Take a look here, Sadako and Kayako don't fight, but only merge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LuHqFXbuTo
Classic VHS Horror
Sadako vs Kayako Fight Scene - 貞子対カヤコ
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:15 PM
I played that game but then gave it to a friend; i found the bar training stage too difficult
6:15 PM
That and overall he had more interest than I did
Tsugato 5/12/2018 6:15 PM
Shit, that clip doesn't include the merging. RIP
6:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tkIdgOsdgE Here we go.
Mr. Bubblegum. jr
Sadako vs Kayako (2016) movie clips (5/5) | Birth of Sadakaya
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:16 PM
nonetheless, the US rating systems have gotten more strict and (imho) sensitive than they used to be
goat 5/12/2018 6:16 PM
@z20kdc shockingly, no
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:17 PM
I'd imagine that's because they're trying to appeal to other audiences, especially the Chinese market.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:17 PM
if frozen is PG, then the lion king might as well be pg-13, ffs
goat 5/12/2018 6:17 PM
https://www.xda-developers.com/chinese-nvidia-shield-tv-nintendo-gamecube-wii-emulator/
Doug Lynch
Chinese Nvidia Shield TV with Nintendo games may actually be runni...
There's some evidence to suggest that NVIDIA shipped a GameCube/Wii emulator in the Chinese variant of the NVIDIA Shield TV.
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:20 PM
"But oddly, it was impossible to replicate two “notorious” and well-documented crashes on the GameCube version of the game on the Shield TV." hums the MMU not enabled song
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:20 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what the live-action Lion King would be re-rated.
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:20 PM
honestly though
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:21 PM
@goat And by GameCube/Wii emulator, they probably mean they took Dolphin and illegally put it on the market.
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:21 PM
divingkatae: Seeing the article gives more context
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:22 PM
lion king 2 seemed a lot more G-Rated and devoid of much interesting conflict
goat 5/12/2018 6:22 PM
okay so when i said shockingly, no, i didn't mean "it is not dolphin", i meant "shockingly, it is not obviously dolphin"
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 6:23 PM
1 1/2 was just a bit of a funny movie that, while not replacing the first one, was good enough to be enjoyable multiple times
6:23 PM
But back on subject
goat 5/12/2018 6:24 PM
i'm in hopes someone manages to get the apk going on a switch
6:25 PM
i just updated my switch despite wanting homebrew because the entry method is unpatchable
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:26 PM
goat: Could always boot into Linux on Switch and then try to get Dolphin going from there.
goat 5/12/2018 6:26 PM
already been done :v
6:26 PM
linux on switch has serious issues though, right now it doesn't have audio and desyncs the battery
6:27 PM
the exploit requires, and i paraphrase: "a conductive piece of metal"
6:27 PM
horizon OS has its own tracking for the battery and when you're running linux through rcm it isn't affecting that tracking
6:29 PM
i just adore the piece of metal requirement. if there's voltage where there shouldn't be, the switch launches the tegra recovery module before even booting baseline security functions
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:29 PM
Just a standard phone recovery mode...
6:29 PM
wait what do you mean this isn't a phone
goat 5/12/2018 6:30 PM
"jam a paperclip in it" is just... such a rare viable option to defeating kernel security
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:30 PM
Not really. Again, from the perspective of a phone, it makes sense -
6:30 PM
anyone who wants actual data security will have encrypted the device,
6:31 PM
and it's rather useful to be able to wipe/reflash it at will for whatever reason,
6:31 PM
so they leave something like fastboot in there.
6:32 PM
...the Switch isn't a phone, but still.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:32 PM
It uses similar hardware to a phone.
6:32 PM
Makes me wonder if Nintendo copied a lot of their biz model from Apple starting in the 90's.
goat 5/12/2018 6:33 PM
the switch is literally an nvidia tegra x1 with custom peripherals
6:33 PM
you can use pixel c kernel modules to boot switch linux
GerbilSoft 5/12/2018 6:33 PM
the RCM is designed to only load a signed recovery program
6:33 PM
the problem is the buffer overflows
goat 5/12/2018 6:34 PM
thank you. that is good info
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:34 PM
1. Signed by who, and could this signature be the same as, say, a convenient recovery program for phones that could be used for the exploit 2. Oh dear, Nintendo Wii programmers must be infectious.
GerbilSoft 5/12/2018 6:34 PM
by nintendo i assume
6:34 PM
the RCM code is written by nvidia
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:35 PM
Yup, the Nintendo Wii programmers must have accidentally given Nvidia their cold.
GerbilSoft 5/12/2018 6:35 PM
wii's problem wasn't a buffer overflow
goat 5/12/2018 6:35 PM
could be worse
6:35 PM
coulda caught what Level-5 were packing
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:35 PM
GerbilSoft: nope, but...
GerbilSoft 5/12/2018 6:35 PM
3DS has a similar bootrom vulnerability, but also not a buffer overflow - the RSA verification is broken
goat 5/12/2018 6:36 PM
the last thing dolphin ever booted was a level-5 program
z20kdc 5/12/2018 6:36 PM
they be up to evil stuff
goat 5/12/2018 6:37 PM
copy protection is beyond fascinating
GerbilSoft 5/12/2018 6:38 PM
and then there's some times when the use of undefined behavior results in compatibility fuckups
6:38 PM
see: windows (the old new thing blog)
goat 5/12/2018 6:38 PM
copy protection through arcane magicks and horrid black witchcraft is really cool but less fascinating as understanding it involves lovecraftian knowledge (not the really racist stuff)
GerbilSoft 5/12/2018 6:38 PM
and one of the mega man GBA games crashing on the original DS
goat 5/12/2018 6:38 PM
twilight princess was running 0x0 as a texture
GerbilSoft 5/12/2018 6:38 PM
that's the 'undefined behavior' thing
6:38 PM
was most likely an error that they overlooked because it 'worked'
goat 5/12/2018 6:39 PM
the type of thing where you want to sit down the programmer and just say"whyyyyyyy"
GerbilSoft 5/12/2018 6:39 PM
that one's listed here https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2016/09/01/dolphin-progress-report-august-2016/
Dolphin Emulator
goat 5/12/2018 6:39 PM
dolphin progress reports are fascinatin'
6:40 PM
fiora aeterna is a wizard and it was incredible to see her just axing chunks off performance costs month after month after month
GerbilSoft 5/12/2018 6:40 PM
"This is something that would crash a normal computer program, so Dolphin just assumed that 0x0 was invalid. After all, there was never going to be a texture at address 0x0 anyway, because the GameID is stored there. But degasus pointed out that on the GameCube, 0x0 was considered valid memory. And it turns out, the GameID doesn't have any transparent pixels. As insane as it sounds, reading back the GameID as a texture for the mirror's alpha test actually works!"
6:40 PM
this is because most gcn/wii games don't use the MMU
divingkxt 5/12/2018 6:43 PM
The ones that do are usually those that do crazy things with it.
6:44 PM
Oh, speaking of which, want to know why Sheepshaver can run Mac OS at all?
6:44 PM
It uses machine code patches to find pieces of code and disable all sorts of checks within its nanokernel.
6:45 PM
That's part of the reason why Sheepshaver's development has all but stalled.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:01 PM
@ゲームボーイ64 Oh, and allegedly there's also favoritism with Japanese devs regarding CERO.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 7:06 PM
Where are you getting this info? Lol @divingkxt
leilei 5/12/2018 7:07 PM
all the favoritism i can think of in CERO is fighting games
7:08 PM
since the context of sportsish competition reduces the intensity of the content it may contain. unless it's gory west games like mkx (edited)
Tsugato 5/12/2018 7:08 PM
When it comes to Psychological Horror, I sense Silent Hill is their favorites.
BoggY 5/12/2018 7:10 PM
Hey yall
Paulweeze71 5/12/2018 7:10 PM
leilei 5/12/2018 7:10 PM
actually on second thought maybe the exploding testes in mkx keeps it at z
7:11 PM
that and/or any beheading
Tsugato 5/12/2018 7:12 PM
Silent Hill manages to get a C rating, so lol.
BoggY 5/12/2018 7:12 PM
joined mostly because of an old forgotten game that i found some new content
leilei 5/12/2018 7:12 PM
those silent hill games usually don't give you first person violent graphic death making (edited)
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7:13 PM
don't forget you can have bloody and gory T games in a more restricted context where the player isn't doing it up close or if it's at a far enough distance (edited)
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:14 PM
Also, no electrocutions.
7:14 PM
It can guarantee at least a D CERO rating.
leilei 5/12/2018 7:14 PM
coughblankacough
7:14 PM
unless you mean graphic actual frying electrocution
Tsugato 5/12/2018 7:15 PM
cough cough puking up deity fetuses cough cough
BoggY 5/12/2018 7:15 PM
anyone heard of Bejeweled?
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:15 PM
@leilei Infamous, which got a T rating in the US but a Z rating in Japan.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 7:15 PM
Also cough cough a person snatches the fetus and swallows COUGH COUGH
leilei 5/12/2018 7:16 PM
oh that might explain mk's z for raiden
Tsugato 5/12/2018 7:16 PM
https://youtu.be/fGDN7tp0zaI
Anthony Kerr
Silent Hill 3 Claudia Ingests "God"
BoggY 5/12/2018 7:16 PM
anyways there was a page with unused content and there was talk about a chinese release (https://tcrf.net/Talk:Bejeweled_3), which I have currently got (edited)
leilei 5/12/2018 7:16 PM
raiden zapping and nuts popping
7:16 PM
oh wait does that mean all the red alerts are Z?? rip tesla coil
BoggY 5/12/2018 7:16 PM
how do i even post there?
leilei 5/12/2018 7:17 PM
#account-requests (edited)
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:17 PM
@leilei He means how to make a post in the talk page.
leilei 5/12/2018 7:17 PM
ah
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:17 PM
Click the edit tab.
leilei 5/12/2018 7:17 PM
if it's a reply start with a colon
7:17 PM
like
7:17 PM
I don't like thing -[ThingDontLiker] (edited)
7:17 PM
: Okay ~~~~ (edited)
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:17 PM
:: I have a copy here
BoggY 5/12/2018 7:18 PM
will anyone notice?
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:18 PM
A few people do and the IRC log notes when people make edits.
BoggY 5/12/2018 7:18 PM
makes sense
leilei 5/12/2018 7:18 PM
and you will want to have the four tildas to sign your message with ~~~~
7:18 PM
otherwise an annoyed admin will have to sign it for you
7:19 PM
yeah it sucks wikis don't work like forums when it comes to talk pages
7:19 PM
this isn't tv tropes
BoggY 5/12/2018 7:19 PM
good to know, thanks
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:19 PM
@divingkxt that makes a LOT more sense now, thanks
7:20 PM
Even if it’s a conspiracy, it seems almost like it could be very well backed up
leilei 5/12/2018 7:21 PM
CERO rates with context and intensity
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:21 PM
Yes.
7:22 PM
Is it based on reality? How realistic are the actions portrayed? What is the purpose behind the imagery shown? (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:22 PM
That also makes sense
leilei 5/12/2018 7:23 PM
and that's not counting the differences of censorship laws etc
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:24 PM
oh
7:24 PM
then, from my interpretation
leilei 5/12/2018 7:24 PM
i think silent hill's c is reasonable
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:25 PM
japan is more sensitive to violent games that have gore than lewd games that have a lot of innuendos, whether subtle or not
7:25 PM
Yeah
7:25 PM
Just my interpretation
leilei 5/12/2018 7:25 PM
vampire savior was C and that's a game with near nude kitty tiddy and jedah bursting the blood out of everyone and bishamon slicing and bisecting everyone and getting others to commit seppuku (edited)
7:25 PM
because it's a fighting game and it's cartoony it's okay
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:25 PM
reasonable as well
7:26 PM
i mean, without ratings, japan usually had the games censored by the publishing company
7:26 PM
and now the rating as well
7:27 PM
Case in point, MKII
7:27 PM
SFC
leilei 5/12/2018 7:27 PM
japan was barely starting to have a rating system by that point
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:28 PM
Yeah
7:28 PM
It was mostly the companies’ ratings
leilei 5/12/2018 7:28 PM
it was just a and ALLAGES iirc (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:28 PM
I don’t remember what sega had (edited)
7:28 PM
But I remember MK on the MCD had a green, and MK2 on 32X had a red color
7:29 PM
I need to look it up again
7:30 PM
Nope, I remember wrong
7:30 PM
7:31 PM
It was MA-17, like sega of the US
7:31 PM
but then it had different colors
leilei 5/12/2018 7:31 PM
yeah sega's VRC is one of the earliest notable attempts
7:31 PM
ESRB eventually got it replaced though
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:32 PM
yeah
leilei 5/12/2018 7:32 PM
also consider the same game, like ff6, getting 3 different ratings over the years
7:32 PM
ditto for Chrono Trigger
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:32 PM
7:32 PM
Yeah
7:33 PM
Wait why is the 32X version yellow and the aturn verion red
7:33 PM
They’re the same game
7:33 PM
7:33 PM
Pardon for filling up the general with images
7:33 PM
But these are the ones I remember with ratings
7:34 PM
The esrb rolled out around 1994ish
leilei 5/12/2018 7:34 PM
mid-late 94
7:34 PM
we also had the RSAC for a while which was way more informative of content and didn't assign an age rating
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:34 PM
I only know that becuase panic on the sega cd got a T and not a MA-17, like what the vrc had originally planned
7:35 PM
esrb way back when was more laid back than they are now
leilei 5/12/2018 7:35 PM
esrb felt laid back only due to whatever the publisher gives them to grade
7:35 PM
it wasn't until the hot coffee controversy and oblivion that changed (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:36 PM
Why did oblivion change it?
leilei 5/12/2018 7:36 PM
Oblivion was once T, until it was realized modders could put male textures on female to attain 'nudity'
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:36 PM
wtf
leilei 5/12/2018 7:36 PM
(and that's not counting some of the script)
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:36 PM
Why should that change things
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:37 PM
Which is bullshit, mods shouldn't change a rating
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:37 PM
Were the textures in the files?
leilei 5/12/2018 7:37 PM
it also briefly set a bad precedent
7:37 PM
yeah
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:37 PM
well then
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:37 PM
Otherwise everything would be AO
leilei 5/12/2018 7:37 PM
this was just around release before there was even boob mods and the like etc
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:37 PM
that’s a tiny bit different
leilei 5/12/2018 7:38 PM
this could be avoided if they gave women entirely different uvmaps for the body, so nipples would appear in a blank space or the armpits
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:38 PM
That'd be like if they rated online interactions.
leilei 5/12/2018 7:38 PM
and doesn't that use normal maps too? it'd also end up with the strangest muscle anatomy possible if tried that way too
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:39 PM
NA attitudes towards sex are complete bullshit anyway
punk7890 5/12/2018 7:40 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/995448518364905472
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
I've found some hidden cheats in Hot Wheels Turbo Racing (N64) if anyone would like to take a shot at figuring out what they all do. https://t.co/xOn3fyqpcU One of them changes the maps to nighttime.
7:40 PM
Would be neat to figure these out sometime. I've put them on tcrf if anyone wants to help
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:42 PM
Particularly those of the US
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 7:43 PM
Not everyone is or should be open to sexualizing everything, but I do think they need to tone it back a bit (edited)
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:43 PM
Sex shouldn't be treated as a 100% negative thing
7:44 PM
US society is extremistly sex-negative (edited)
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:44 PM
Ironic considering how early people lose their virginity.
7:44 PM
On average.
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:44 PM
Which causes a lot of problems
7:44 PM
@divingkxt: That's actually a direct result
7:45 PM
It's made into this thing you can't ever have except under extremely strict circumstances and ONLY for one purpose.
7:46 PM
It's something that's supposed to be single-function and God help you if you enjoy any part of it
7:47 PM
And if you're ANYWHERE outside this tiny 1px by 1px box of "acceptible sexuality" you're an irredeemable deviant
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:47 PM
Not limited to the US, but definitely one of the most egregious examples.
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:49 PM
It's THE most egregious example, and most other examples along the same lines got it from christian extremists from the US on missions to preach and teach their hatred to others
7:50 PM
All of this homophobic attitude in African countries was a US export.
Tsugato 5/12/2018 7:52 PM
Before the chat goes to lunacy, I forgot this list exists. I might look around for more copies of The Thrill Kill.
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:52 PM
And now they have all their people in place to start pushing the same here in the US, with Pence already relentlessly attacking trans people.
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/12/2018 7:54 PM
patapon 1 and 2 backgrounds are in patapon 3 but the only way to get them to appear (from my knowledge) is decrypting dlc, unpacking, repacking, encrypting
7:54 PM
7:54 PM
example
Tsugato 5/12/2018 7:54 PM
You know what, what happened to rule #4?
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:55 PM
@Neko May Uh...Neko.
7:55 PM
Can you not go into politics again?
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:55 PM
I'll try
7:55 PM
But it was already there when I came in
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:56 PM
Let's just move on to other things quick.
7:57 PM
Yeah...anyone hacked into Revenant yet?
Neko May 5/12/2018 7:58 PM
I don't think @Revenant would be too happy about that.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 7:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd6ON2NUSRU
Revenant gameplay (PC Game, 1999)
Introduction and gameplay for Revenant, PC game produced by Eidos in 1999 - http://www.squakenet.com/download/revenant/11197/ Revenant is a game with an inte...
7:59 PM
This game was rushed to all heck.
8:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l1kbXaZNpI
barbarianbros
Revenant - Video Game Trailer. PC Windows, 1998.
8:00 PM
Here's a trailer from 1998.
Neko May 5/12/2018 8:01 PM
Hm.
divingkxt 5/12/2018 8:01 PM
Environments are pretty complete-looking, but the gameplay looks barren.
8:01 PM
Note especially the lack of HUD.
8:03 PM
If you're trying to run the game on Windows >98, that's gonna cause some issues.
8:03 PM
Like a lot of 90's games.
Neko May 5/12/2018 8:04 PM
Makes sense
8:05 PM
ME might be okay, but 2000/XP will probably be problematic at best.
leilei 5/12/2018 8:09 PM
a friend of mine once bought a press release early proto of Revenant on ebay (edited)
8:09 PM
i did namedrop tcrf in that conversation, dunno if he had interest to dig
8:10 PM
it was by accident too. he wanted a real final disc (edited)
8:11 PM
i don't know if he ever uploaded it to some 'beta' site or assembler or not (edited)
8:12 PM
at least eidos included revenant in its heavy marketing phases in 1999
8:13 PM
it's definitely well advertised, sometimes with 2 pagers and 'advertoiral' features (edited)
8:13 PM
cnet's tv shows also plugged it a bunch
8:14 PM
(with badly done footage on poor video cards that couldn't render the game properly)
divingkxt 5/12/2018 8:14 PM
And yet, it sold like shit.
leilei 5/12/2018 8:14 PM
yeah the ads were vague
8:15 PM
"look at this man this is a big badass guy." tiny isometric screenshots
8:15 PM
marketing like it's an already known ip like tomb raider
8:16 PM
urban chaos and omikron had similar marketing issues (edited)
divingkxt 5/12/2018 8:16 PM
No surprise because marketers usually don't play the games they are told to market.
leilei 5/12/2018 8:17 PM
and deus ex and daikatana
8:17 PM
though those were more mlke wilson'd
8:18 PM
everyone loves him for devolver nowadays (edited)
divingkxt 5/12/2018 8:20 PM
At least he's no Mike Dawson. (edited)
leilei 5/12/2018 8:22 PM
i blame the abuse of the exocet typeface in the mid-late 90s on mike wilson
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/12/2018 8:31 PM
theres a path for a non existant file in stages
8:31 PM
`// C:\prj\Labo3\build\allocation\LoadingGroup\BasesData\LoadingGroupCmn\ActorResourceNode\DataList.prm に移した`
8:31 PM
(patapon 3)
Smoke 5/12/2018 8:49 PM
CSoundBankManager::GetBankCategoryAndIndex: NO SOUP FOR YOU!
punk7890 5/12/2018 8:53 PM
so I found something amazing
8:53 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/995466707245256705
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a simple FPS display in Namco Museum: 50th Anniversary (PS2) https://t.co/O24UG4BvkS Very high quality stuff.
rampy 5/12/2018 8:56 PM
Groundbreaking
8:56 PM
Simply amazing
ゲームボーイ64 5/12/2018 8:56 PM
@punk7890 I think you can input debug commands on the tool
8:56 PM
with that game
punk7890 5/12/2018 9:01 PM
o right
9:01 PM
forgot to check what that stuff was (edited)
9:02 PM
also, anyone want 698MBs worth of pngs that I've put on tcrf
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/12/2018 9:25 PM
Sneaker 5/12/2018 9:37 PM
@leilei I can't find where you highlighted me because discord sucks
9:37 PM
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/12/2018 10:12 PM
@Sneaker
10:12 PM
Sneaker 5/12/2018 10:12 PM
ohhhhhh
10:12 PM
so that's what that is
10:12 PM
everyone telling me to not @ them so I thought that was an @er
10:13 PM
thanks
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/12/2018 10:13 PM
np
Tsugato 5/12/2018 10:16 PM
Lol
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/12/2018 10:27 PM
I found debug menu in Bokujou Monogatari: Harvest Moon (and for Girl). https://tcrf.net/Harvest_Moon:_Back_to_Nature
Harvest Moon: Back to Nature
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2
Deleted User 5/12/2018 10:46 PM
@punk7890 I hope you've been crunching those
punk7890 5/12/2018 10:57 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice
10:58 PM
@Deleted User I'm not sure I get the reference
Tsugato 5/13/2018 1:10 AM
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:13 AM
@punk7890 He's talking about PNG compression.
1:13 AM
Right now, TCRF has less than a GB of free space.
leilei 5/13/2018 1:17 AM
crunch off every png
1:17 AM
for great justice
1:18 AM
i've been making a bit to crush every png i save to the point i associate pngout with png as a default program (edited)
Neko May 5/13/2018 1:23 AM
Run optipng on everything
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:23 AM
pngcrush -brute works too.
punk7890 5/13/2018 1:33 AM
Ah ok, gotcha
1:35 AM
can you change those settings in PNGGauntlet?
f(x)^3 5/13/2018 1:39 AM
@divingkxt Have you ever looked into that game, out of curiosity?
1:39 AM
Revenant
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:39 AM
Nay.
1:39 AM
I'm busier with other things.
f(x)^3 5/13/2018 1:40 AM
Imma take a quick look
1:40 AM
eventually
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:41 AM
First thing I like to do is look into the game's executable.
1:41 AM
All sorts of fun tidbits in there.
f(x)^3 5/13/2018 1:49 AM
Well screw using that download
1:49 AM
1:53 AM
Already finding rush / laziness signs
1:53 AM
options screen file has this at the top `// ** Revenant Host Game Interface DEF File ***`
1:54 AM
Interesting, this game has a scripting language (edited)
Revenant 5/13/2018 1:54 AM
thank god this isn't irc where this conversation would be highlighting me every 2 seconds
f(x)^3 5/13/2018 1:54 AM
I'll make sure to tag you every time I mention it
1:54 AM
MysticSageJosh 5/13/2018 2:06 AM
I muted the irc channel lol
f(x)^3 5/13/2018 2:16 AM
Heh, @divingkxt `1 VERSIONINFO FILEVERSION 1,0,0,0 PRODUCTVERSION 1,0,0,0 FILEOS 0x4 FILETYPE 0x1 { BLOCK "StringFileInfo" { BLOCK "040904E4" { VALUE "CompanyName", "Cinematix Studios" VALUE "FileDescription", "Revenant Launcher Utility" VALUE "FileVersion", "1.0.0.0" VALUE "InternalName", "Launcher?" VALUE "LegalCopyright", "Cinematix Studios, 1999" VALUE "LegalTrademarks", "" VALUE "OriginalFilename", "Launcher.exe" VALUE "ProductName", "" VALUE "ProductVersion", "1.0.0.0" VALUE "Comments", "If it doesn't work, bite me." } } BLOCK "VarFileInfo" { VALUE "Translation", 0x0409 0x04E4 } }`
2:16 AM
Comments and InternalName
divingkxt 5/13/2018 2:18 AM
They were definitely not happy.
eientei 5/13/2018 3:09 AM
3
3
MysticSageJosh 5/13/2018 3:16 AM
r/outoftheloop
Neko May 5/13/2018 3:31 AM
TL;DR: RetroArch sucks
eientei 5/13/2018 3:38 AM
@MysticSageJosh /r/subredditsashashtags
Tsugato 5/13/2018 3:53 AM
You going to share that with your subreddit buddies? Lol @eientei
3:55 AM
3:55 AM
Lol
3:55 AM
Was digging in ALIFE.exe
eientei 5/13/2018 3:58 AM
@Tsugato what are you talking about
Tsugato 5/13/2018 3:58 AM
Nothing.
3:59 AM
Neko May 5/13/2018 3:59 AM
>.>
Tsugato 5/13/2018 4:06 AM
Hmmmm.... I would guess include them together.
Neko May 5/13/2018 4:09 AM
Hm, tough call.
4:10 AM
I'm going to lean ever so slightly towards making them one thing.
Tsugato 5/13/2018 4:12 AM
This is in the executable of Civ3, is this a dev log... or something else? I kind of got thrown off guard for a second.
Tsugato 5/13/2018 4:21 AM
Not a dev log, as usual my stupidity.
punk7890 5/13/2018 5:58 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/995603970973253632
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug option in Milo's Astro Lanes (N64) https://t.co/MzKEiKK9Nq This function allows you to edit the current lighting of the map you are in.
5:58 AM
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leilei 5/13/2018 5:59 AM
whoa a n64 crash game
Sunk 5/13/2018 6:00 AM
man, all those debug menus, yet still nothing from that one game :feelsbadman:
punk7890 5/13/2018 6:00 AM
え？
Sunk 5/13/2018 6:01 AM
you know what I'm talking about
punk7890 5/13/2018 6:01 AM
there's too many games out there
6:01 AM
dunno what 1
Sunk 5/13/2018 6:02 AM
hint
leilei 5/13/2018 6:03 AM
blue dragon?
6:03 AM
chrono trigger?
punk7890 5/13/2018 6:03 AM
yeah I know, I was just joking around. I don't have a clue about that one.
MysticSageJosh 5/13/2018 6:03 AM
dragon quest
6:03 AM
idk
punk7890 5/13/2018 6:03 AM
^
leilei 5/13/2018 6:03 AM
final bout?
punk7890 5/13/2018 6:04 AM
viii
Sunk 5/13/2018 6:04 AM
and I still haven't found any info regarding jessica's breast puns
punk7890 5/13/2018 6:04 AM
bummer
6:04 AM
I should check out the magic attacks sometime / regular attacks
leilei 5/13/2018 6:04 AM
tobal no2?
punk7890 5/13/2018 6:05 AM
@leilei Lilo and Stitch
leilei 5/13/2018 6:05 AM
ah
punk7890 5/13/2018 6:05 AM
close tho
Sunk 5/13/2018 6:06 AM
the guy I contacted on facebook doesn't seem to be very active, with his last post dating back to february
punk7890 5/13/2018 6:09 AM
:<
eientei 5/13/2018 8:26 AM
and there we go. If NintendoPlayer were to disappear, it'd be archived
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 8:46 AM
ique mario ds build date is `2007-05-16 11:41:10 yosimoto`
8:46 AM
any ideas?
8:50 AM
wait thats already on tcrf
8:50 AM
nvm
augitesoul 5/13/2018 8:52 AM
why is that "m" looking weird?
eientei 5/13/2018 8:59 AM
At least one hex editor does that for some godless reason
9:00 AM
https://twitter.com/gdri/status/995503617258946561
GDRI (@gdri)
Pasofami developer Nobuaki Andou has died, according to a statement by his son posted on Andou's website. Pasofami was one of the first Famicom/NES emulators. https://t.co/tRFXSJt8SZ
leilei 5/13/2018 9:01 AM
RIP
9:01 AM
first nes emulator i've used
eientei 5/13/2018 9:05 AM
First NES emulator you used that nuked C:\Windows
leilei 5/13/2018 9:11 AM
didn't for me, was a 1996 version
9:11 AM
the worst it'd do was interrupt emulation with a registration nag
Tsugato 5/13/2018 9:43 AM
Tbh, if you ran that emulator on W3.1, it would lag constantly. Also, one a W95, don't get me started. Lol
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 9:51 AM
i think the m thing is just a bug in nsmbe
Tsugato 5/13/2018 9:54 AM
That m has ascended.
9:55 AM
ᴹaster ᴹ
9:55 AM
Our ᴹessiah
9:56 AM
My World ᴹolder.
9:56 AM
ᴹ
Paulweeze71 5/13/2018 10:16 AM
leilei 5/13/2018 10:17 AM
it was made for win3.1
10:18 AM
the lag can be mitigated by tweaking around with the many many timing settings
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 11:34 AM
are the build dates for melee listed somewhere
divingkxt 5/13/2018 12:39 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT Nay.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 12:40 PM
yeah no kidding
12:40 PM
looked everywhere i think they couldve been
divingkxt 5/13/2018 12:56 PM
Search for 2001 and 2002 in start.dol.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 1:00 PM
i only have like demo discs so thisll take a while...
1:00 PM
Hiccup 5/13/2018 1:00 PM
pretty sure they are in boot.dol
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:01 PM
Yeah, but no one has extracted the dol execs from the ISOs and GCMs. (edited)
1:02 PM
And put them all into one giant zip file.
Hiccup 5/13/2018 1:02 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 1:02 PM
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:02 PM
Then again, that's also true for pretty much every disc-based console.
1:04 PM
If we did that, it'd probably be a heck of a lot easier to find build dates and debug modes.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 1:04 PM
honestly thats a pretty legit idea
Hiccup 5/13/2018 1:06 PM
what melee versions don't you have ppltoast?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 1:07 PM
idk if the JP version isos are somehow different from US (edited)
Hiccup 5/13/2018 1:08 PM
they are
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 1:08 PM
including build date?
Hiccup 5/13/2018 1:08 PM
probably, but I don't know
1:10 PM
there are at least 9 versions, excluding the multi-game demo discs demos and assuming the JP movie disc doesn't contain an ISO
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 1:11 PM
the event disc D24J you mean?
1:11 PM
thats the last undumped one anyway
Hiccup 5/13/2018 1:13 PM
I meant D23J, but there is that too apparently
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 1:14 PM
yeah that gold tourney discs dumped
1:14 PM
sadly its all just videos
Hiccup 5/13/2018 1:16 PM
they are both on redump, but yeah, SmaBro DX Event-you Disc (Japan) / D24J seems to be missing
Zedd 5/13/2018 1:17 PM
hallo everyone
1:17 PM
been a while since i came here
1:18 PM
but id like some help if yall wouldnt mind
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:19 PM
Sure.
Zedd 5/13/2018 1:20 PM
alright kind of a stupid thing and a gigantic shot in the dark but
1:20 PM
so i was reading this page: https://tcrf.net/Transformers:_The_Game_(Windows)
Transformers: The Game (Windows)
1:21 PM
and it keeps mentioning a method to use unplayable characters (ie the drones) but never actually says how
1:21 PM
that page does need some clean up and ill do my best but regardless
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:23 PM
@Zedd No surprise, most of that page was written by a young Argentine.
1:24 PM
And I did a fair amount of work trying to get everything formatted properly and try to correct the grammar.
Zedd 5/13/2018 1:25 PM
that norav durok person i assume
1:25 PM
this game is hugely nostalgic so any unused shit? mmmm good
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:25 PM
Zekrom too.
1:26 PM
As for how they hacked the unused characters in, the game seems to be storing things in .cfg files.
1:26 PM
Human-readable usually.
Zedd 5/13/2018 1:28 PM
what do you mean human readable?
1:28 PM
actually do you mind if i just dm you? i don't want to flood the chat with stupid questions
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/13/2018 1:35 PM
todayyy
1:35 PM
is discords birthdayyyy
1:35 PM
happy birthday discord!
3
1:39 PM
bringing back this old boy
1:39 PM
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 1:39 PM
wha
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/13/2018 1:40 PM
(for the lazy)
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 1:40 PM
didnt work for me for whatever reaso
1:40 PM
n
1:40 PM
but thats really awesome lol
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/13/2018 1:41 PM
better played in audacity/foobar/not windows media player
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 1:41 PM
ah k then
1:41 PM
that worked great
EdTheNerd 5/13/2018 1:43 PM
>doesnt play DO THE MARIO
1
1:43 PM
i am disappointed
Paulweeze71 5/13/2018 1:45 PM
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:46 PM
Note the LAME3.99.5 hidden in the JPEG.
1:47 PM
Not a bad breakbeat.
EdTheNerd 5/13/2018 1:52 PM
1:52 PM
better
divingkxt 5/13/2018 1:54 PM
Oh snap.
1:54 PM
Clever use of LAME footers there too.
1:54 PM
Multiple headers to parse each section.
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/13/2018 1:54 PM
i feel like ill regret playing this
1:55 PM
oh
1:55 PM
nvm
1:55 PM
this is the best thing ever made
EdTheNerd 5/13/2018 2:02 PM
divingkxt 5/13/2018 2:06 PM
Also, since MP3 and JPEG share a similar lossy compression method, they can be overlaid quite well.
Kelton 5/13/2018 4:23 PM
I just found something pretty big Wii-related in my server. Beta versions of the Wii Menu were released to Wii developers (we previously weren't sure).
4:23 PM
(This was also the case for Wii U and Switch, the latter of which we have but don't yet have the keys to extract)
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 4:24 PM
it seems like animal forest on the ique player was compiled in 2003
4:24 PM
which is weird, as the game was released in 2006
divingkxt 5/13/2018 4:27 PM
Probably had to pace their releases so they didn't all come out in the same day.
4:27 PM
And thus tip off Chinese authorities.
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 4:27 PM
they had to submit it and stuff
4:27 PM
and i found a bunch of weird stuff in the rom
4:27 PM
https://pastebin.com/Bnyqt0p6
Animal Forest thing - Pastebin.com
divingkxt 5/13/2018 4:28 PM
It's the crash debugger.
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 4:28 PM
yeup
4:28 PM
also `libultra 12/06/04 08:28:27......`
divingkxt 5/13/2018 4:31 PM
libultra is the official Nintendo 64 library.
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 4:31 PM
indeed
4:31 PM
a modified version of it is in the ique player sdk
4:37 PM
`TERESA OBAKE....YYAMA1 % YSLD1..SELECT ROOM.....HORROR DUNGEON..SABAKU % PYRMD..BATTLE FIELD....YUKIYAMA2.......POOL KAI........WTDG % TINBOTU..BIG WORLD.......CLOCK TOWER.....RAINBOW CRUISE..MAIN MAP........EXT1 YOKO SCRL..EXT7 HORI MINI..EXT2 TIKA LAVA..EXT9 SUISOU.....EXT3 HEAVEN.....FIREB1 % INVLC..WATER LAND......MOUNTAIN........ENDING..........URANIWA.........EXT4 MINI SLID..IN THE FALL.....EXT6 MARIO FLY..KUPPA1..........EXT8 BLUE SKY...................KUPPA2..........KUPPA3..........................DONKEY % SLID2..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................SELECT STAGE....PRESS START BUTTON..%2d.........` i guess the stage select is in ique mario...?
divingkxt 5/13/2018 4:38 PM
Yep.
4:38 PM
It's in all versions of SM64.
4:39 PM
I don't see why it wouldn't be here.
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 4:39 PM
no real reason
4:39 PM
its interesting though, for other games they translated all the text
4:39 PM
they didnt translate this though
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 4:47 PM
i dont believe they were pacing releases
4:47 PM
ique smash is from october 2005
4:47 PM
theres gotta be something that happened with animal forest...
4:49 PM
just the fact that animal forest predates the chinese OoT by 7 months would to me imply that it was among the first games they considered for the system
4:49 PM
it does use the RTC after all
4:52 PM
of course i guess its possible the system they were building on was somehow set 3 years behind the actual time
Deleted User 5/13/2018 5:06 PM
localization on a game like AC would take a lot longer than OoT, assuming they modified the game to add Chinese-specific holidays and other cultural aspects.
Jhynjhiruu 5/13/2018 5:07 PM
they did
5:07 PM
but
5:07 PM
if it was built 3 years before release
5:07 PM
they wouldnt have changed anything after that
5:07 PM
unless they hacked their own rom
Deleted User 5/13/2018 5:09 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
5:09 PM
do we know for sure that the timestamp is accurate
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 5:10 PM
how would you
Deleted User 5/13/2018 5:10 PM
idk
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/13/2018 5:10 PM
so far the other build dates found make sense
Deleted User 5/13/2018 5:11 PM
also consider: odd business decisions
5:11 PM
remember Brain Age 3DS
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/13/2018 6:16 PM
https://twitter.com/theflow0/status/995580948241674241?s=19
TheFloW (@theflow0)
Since I get asked daily if it is safe to update:

- if you‘re on 3.61-3.63, you can update to 3.65 (latest fw that can run enso)
- if you‘re on 3.67, you can also update to 3.68, there‘s no big difference

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6:16 PM
hype?
EdTheNerd 5/13/2018 6:43 PM
wot (edited)
divingkxt 5/13/2018 7:03 PM
Pasta?
7:03 PM
You in here?
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/13/2018 7:04 PM
@Pasta937
Pasta937 5/13/2018 7:04 PM
What
divingkxt 5/13/2018 7:05 PM
Why did you upload a JPEG as a PNG if it's a JPEG in the files?
Pasta937 5/13/2018 7:06 PM
Because the flash extractor after it was extracted shows an error. So I had to save it as png.
7:07 PM
The windows viewer says it can’t be viewed for whatever reason. I use FFdec.
7:09 PM
It only works if I extracted it on shapes. Not images.
divingkxt 5/13/2018 7:09 PM
That's lame.
7:09 PM
Really have to wonder how FFdec is that crap.
Pasta937 5/13/2018 7:09 PM
Yeah I know strange error.
divingkxt 5/13/2018 7:19 PM
Man, Valusoft were like cockroaches in the 2000s.
Pasta937 5/13/2018 7:22 PM
Kind of like LJN
divingkxt 5/13/2018 7:24 PM
Except Valusoft games had less effort in them.
Neko May 5/13/2018 7:25 PM
Probably half the games reviewed on Something Awful are ValuSoft
7:26 PM
It's because they'd buy literally anything and publish it without really caring about.... anything
divingkxt 5/13/2018 7:33 PM
They published Flash games from the Internet on retail stores.
7:33 PM
That's enough proof for that.
7:33 PM
Didn't even try filling a whole disc.
7:36 PM
And yet there's still random shit in there sometimes.
cuba200611 5/13/2018 7:41 PM
ValuSoft - they sold shovelware, right?
ゲームボーイ64 5/13/2018 7:42 PM
Yep
Neko May 5/13/2018 7:55 PM
Literally nothing but
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/13/2018 8:07 PM
umm
8:07 PM
i dont
8:07 PM
remember this cutscene
8:09 PM
gimme a sec
8:09 PM
im gonna dump the audio and video
8:10 PM
(no audio in this one, need to add it) (edited)
8:10 PM
Andreelikes 5/13/2018 8:32 PM
DLC?
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/13/2018 8:37 PM
i dont think so
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/13/2018 9:01 PM
9:01 PM
audio for cutscene above
caff!!! 5/13/2018 9:31 PM
Valusoft sold SCS's early products
9:32 PM
Bunch of truck Sims, which would in due time become the amazing ETS2 and ATS
Zedd 5/13/2018 9:32 PM
hewwo everyone
caff!!! 5/13/2018 9:33 PM
Also later sold SEGA's pc ports from the 90's
Zedd 5/13/2018 9:33 PM
i am back and require assitance for like the same gosh darn problem lmao
leilei 5/13/2018 9:34 PM
surely you're not confusing valusoft with expert software
caff!!! 5/13/2018 9:38 PM
I used to get so many cheap budgetware programs
9:38 PM
parents got me them from a super regional hardware store chain
9:39 PM
even got big rigs over the road racing
leilei 5/13/2018 9:40 PM
i wish d3publisher did a simple series for pcs in the US
9:40 PM
heh
caff!!! 5/13/2018 9:43 PM
yeah, I did get things mixed up
9:43 PM
but it was released by valusoft in Australia? or another company named that
9:44 PM
all those cheapware companies are one big blur
9:44 PM
I really should find my copy of big rigs over the road racing
9:44 PM
I bet it's worth $5
9:44 PM
ha ha
9:45 PM
it appears I am sorely mistaken
Blaring Coder 395 5/13/2018 9:49 PM
You're winner!
caff!!! 5/13/2018 9:50 PM
indeed
9:55 PM
legit photo evidence
Neko May 5/13/2018 10:02 PM
Heh
ゲームボーイ64 5/13/2018 10:23 PM
Why is it so much though
s0lo 5/13/2018 10:25 PM
some unseen area in gmod
Deleted User 5/13/2018 10:26 PM
RacondHa 5/13/2018 10:28 PM
Isn't the hidden room from the map FlatGrass? (edited)
Neko May 5/13/2018 10:35 PM
@ゲームボーイ64: Because it has become legendary.
ゲームボーイ64 5/13/2018 10:35 PM
go figure
Neko May 5/13/2018 10:35 PM
It's like a B movie
10:36 PM
It's so bad, it's good
ゲームボーイ64 5/13/2018 10:36 PM
at least some B movies are worth being legends
10:38 PM
But nonetheless
10:38 PM
punk7890 5/13/2018 10:38 PM
thx
10:39 PM
will take
ゲームボーイ64 5/13/2018 10:39 PM
no
Neko May 5/13/2018 10:42 PM
That trophy rules
EdTheNerd 5/13/2018 10:58 PM
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/13/2018 11:03 PM
@s0lo that's just the flatgrass hidden room. It's pretty easy to press v to noclip and get inside (edited)
11:04 PM
If you looked around you'd see a message or a doll from what I remember (edited)
ƒluƒƒу 5/13/2018 11:57 PM
so a friend of mine was poking around with wii u vc roms and she made a curious little discovery in the n64 ones
11:58 PM
the pal versions, at least, contain a config folder which holds ini files for a metric fuckton of n64 titles, including somethat were never actually released (edited)
11:58 PM
https://twitter.com/Zowayix/status/995715166158274560
Megan 🏳️‍🌈🐈 (@Zowayix)
Alrighty then. Here's all the N64 titles that are contained in every N64 Wii U VC game's "config" folder, or at least on PAL (not sure if USA or Japan VC releases would contain anything different). Spicy stuff. https://t.co/ZwRZAw4yYX
11:58 PM
https://gist.github.com/Zowayix/9d4f9cffd4d83bb69561c4ca926a1d34
11:59 PM
the files evidently contain, in her words, "rom patches and cheat codes"
11:59 PM
some samples she specifically showed me included smash 64
11:59 PM
`;SmashBrothers JP [SpecialInst] Count=3 Address0 = 0x800031EC Inst0 = 0x02C0F809 Type0 = 0 Address1 = 0x80002F80 Inst1 = 0x02C0F809 Type1 = 0 Address2 = 0x80002FCC Inst2 = 0x02C0F809 Type2 = 0 [RomOption] RetraceByVsync = 1 RSPMultiCore = 1`
12:00 AM
and the amusingly mistitled pkmn snap
12:00 AM
`;pokermon snap [RomOption] RetraceByVsync = 0 Rumble = 0 [InsertIdleInst] Count = 1 Type0 = 0 Address0 = 0x80006A90 Inst0 = 0x0C00167D Value0 = 7 [SpecialInst] Count = 1 Type0 = 2 Address0 = 0x80006A90 Inst0 = 0x0C00167D [RomHack] Count=4 ;ḂẁĊÉĊḊĊŸĊÄḂṗpatch Address0 = 0x1fa5d0 Type0 = 4 Value0 = a112: 01 01 70 2E 80 13 16 A0 e7 2C 2A 28 00 28 26 24 e7 24 22 28 00 28 22 20 e7 1E 2C 22 00 22 1C 1E e7 1A 1C 22 00 22 18 1A e7 1C 1A 16 00 16 14 1C e7 1C 14 12 00 14 16 10 e7 10 0E 14 00 14 0E 0C e7 0E 10 0A 00 0A 08 0E e7 0E 08 06 00 08 0A 04 e7 04 02 08 00 08 02 00 e7 12 1E 1C 00 0C 12 14 e7 06 0C 0E 00 00 06 08 E7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ;ḂẁċêċŴ©`Ḃṗpatch Address1 = 0x2aa4c0 Type1 = 4 Value1 = a16: 01 00 30 06 80 13 C0 50 e7 04 02 00 00 00 00 00 ;ḂẁĊḋĊ¶ĊóḂṗpatch 1 Address2 = 0x32a500 Type2 = 4 Value2 = a32: 06 0C 12 0E 00 0E 0A 0C e7 08 06 04 00 02 08 04 e7 06 08 00 00 00 00 00 E7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ;ḂẁĊḋĊ¶ĊóḂṗpatch 2 Address3 = 0x32bdc0 Type3 = 4 Value3 = a16: E7 0A 08 06 00 08 0A 04 E7 02 08 04 00 04 00 02`
12:00 AM
she suspects that the obligatory jynx edit is part of this ini file
Deleted User 5/14/2018 12:00 AM
That's frustrating.
12:01 AM
There could've been so much more to the N64 VC scene, it would've probably improve 64 emulation too. (edited)
12:03 AM
That Twitter bio hoo-wee
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ƒluƒƒу 5/14/2018 12:03 AM
hey don't even fuckin think about it she's a good friend of mine
12:04 AM
and she's had a hard as fuck life, including literally right now
Deleted User 5/14/2018 12:05 AM
Okay calm down? (edited)
leilei 5/14/2018 12:13 AM
what do you mean "hoo-wee"
goat 5/14/2018 12:18 AM
that is not a very weird twitter bio to be even pointing out
leilei 5/14/2018 12:18 AM
yeah i don't see any problem with it
Neko May 5/14/2018 12:29 AM
Yeah, me either. What's wrong with it, @Deleted User?
12:35 AM
@ƒluƒƒу: If the format of those patches can be RE'd, perhaps they can be applied to a ROM and compared.
ƒluƒƒу 5/14/2018 12:35 AM
a very interesting possibility, to be sure
Neko May 5/14/2018 12:36 AM
It looks to be some kind of SREC/IHEX type of thing
12:37 AM
Also, "Pokermon" will probably be Nintendo's next mobile game.
Revenant 5/14/2018 12:42 AM
https://twitter.com/LanceBoyle94/status/995866481459105793
The Dude (@LanceBoyle94)
actual filler text from the opening cutscene of Gundam 0079: The War for Earth (still appears on the Japanese PS1 version!)
Neko May 5/14/2018 12:43 AM
lol
12:44 AM
Star Trek: TNG had silly filler text all over the place, especially on doors.
ƒluƒƒу 5/14/2018 12:45 AM
i for one strongly appreciate being given secret background updates about the status of the uss heart of gold
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/14/2018 12:47 AM
RE: the N64 VC thing. Didn't someone find evidence they were planning to release goldeneye on it?
12:47 AM
and other Rare games.
12:47 AM
I'm pretty sure @Deleted User was the one who initally found it.
Revenant 5/14/2018 12:48 AM
that sounds familiar but i assume goldeneye would have had problems with the actual 007 license
12:48 AM
(not the license to kill, the other more boring one)
caff!!! 5/14/2018 12:51 AM
and microsoft?
12:52 AM
also most likely need to license likeness, unless that comes with the bond game deal
12:52 AM
on that subject, who even has the james bond game license
Revenant 5/14/2018 12:53 AM
currently nobody, apparently
Deleted User 5/14/2018 12:53 AM
there were config files for a bunch of random N64 games stored alongside DK64
12:53 AM
but it was likely them just testing their VC emulator
Revenant 5/14/2018 12:53 AM
activision had the bond game license until 2013 but let it lapse after that
caff!!! 5/14/2018 12:54 AM
also, microsoft has to get on board
ƒluƒƒу 5/14/2018 12:54 AM
it's not goldeneye, but perfect dark is there
12:54 AM
so that's something i guess
caff!!! 5/14/2018 12:54 AM
well, perfect dark is way more simple with IP, just one call to microsoft for it
ƒluƒƒу 5/14/2018 12:55 AM
oh naturally
caff!!! 5/14/2018 12:56 AM
I know it was re-released on the 360 in HD, but I'd be for a crossplay perfect dark with all the levels from the game with the finely dressed man
12:56 AM
wink
12:56 AM
also i should play perfect dark
Revenant 5/14/2018 12:56 AM
my original character Bames Jond
caff!!! 5/14/2018 12:56 AM
I hear it's better than goldeneye
Revenant 5/14/2018 12:57 AM
i dont' know how well the n64 version has aged
12:57 AM
(then again how well has goldeneye aged either)
caff!!! 5/14/2018 12:57 AM
then again, goldeneye spent half of it's life as a rail shooter and it shows
Deleted User 5/14/2018 12:58 AM
008
caff!!! 5/14/2018 12:59 AM
I think perfect dark on native n64 was like, 20 FPS
12:59 AM
then again so was the zelda games
leilei 5/14/2018 1:13 AM
explains why everything's explodium easily
Neko May 5/14/2018 1:21 AM
Goldeneye > Perfect Dark
punk7890 5/14/2018 1:22 AM
:<
1:23 AM
but that improved AI tho
Neko May 5/14/2018 1:23 AM
Not enough
punk7890 5/14/2018 1:23 AM
:<
1:23 AM
I think it also had more complex action blocks as well.
Neko May 5/14/2018 1:24 AM
It didn't help PD that half their talent quit after Goldeneye
punk7890 5/14/2018 1:24 AM
I know custom missions in PD is rather fun because of the really neat action blocks you can use.
Neko May 5/14/2018 1:26 AM
Eh, still think Goldeneye was better.
punk7890 5/14/2018 1:26 AM
It certainly has its charm.
1:26 AM
Probably the first shooter I played, I think
Neko May 5/14/2018 1:27 AM
And Time Crisis proves there's nothing wrong with rail shooters.
1:29 AM
"beepbeep beepbeep beepbeep ACTION!" (edited)
1:31 AM
It still has a weird bug in MAME where you can't shoot the helicopter
1:31 AM
And the sequel is MIG, MNW
1:32 AM
It sorta runs but looks really bad, and locks up shortly into the first level
1:34 AM
Not sure of the N64 emulation status
1:34 AM
I don't often stray into what used to be the MESS side
pepper 5/14/2018 1:51 AM
here's a long shot
1:51 AM
1:52 AM
does anyone actually recognize these things
1:52 AM
these bastard neopets I found in a rom (edited)
divingkxt 5/14/2018 1:52 AM
Nope.
Revenant 5/14/2018 1:52 AM
top right looks like a bootleg version of bub and/or bob
divingkxt 5/14/2018 1:52 AM
Half of those look like reject Pokemon.
Revenant 5/14/2018 1:53 AM
they do look kinda like neopets
pepper 5/14/2018 1:53 AM
these bastards I stitched together for like 2 hours
1:54 AM
well, I like the one on the top left
1:54 AM
but I don't recognize any of them and they're completely out of place in this game
Revenant 5/14/2018 1:54 AM
what game
pepper 5/14/2018 1:54 AM
Lil' Monster
1:54 AM
it's an agetec Gameboy game (edited)
1:56 AM
1:56 AM
maybe the game artist would give a clue, hmm
divingkxt 5/14/2018 1:59 AM
Apparently developed by KID
1:59 AM
No staff credits listed online.
pepper 5/14/2018 2:01 AM
`Lil' Monster Staff Planning Chana Take Graphics Marohho Nakaji Cyuruli J Honyara Yajiron Tarosa`
2:01 AM
I should look personally in the game, but this is just from what I extracted
2:02 AM
it has some weird strings split apart because I assume when they translated it they just added the extended messages to the end of the data (edited)
divingkxt 5/14/2018 2:03 AM
Yeah, just adding pointers to existing messages to extend them.
2:03 AM
Very hacky, but I guess it works when you have just enough free ROM space.
pepper 5/14/2018 2:06 AM
maybe it'd be more informative to just
2:06 AM
rip the strings from the JP release of the game
punk7890 5/14/2018 2:26 AM
don't divide by zero
2:26 AM
sorry game
2:27 AM
not sure what the U3 M5 M4 stuff could be indicating (edited)
eientei 5/14/2018 2:33 AM
https://twitter.com/videogamedeals/status/995039623045840896
Cheap Ass Gamer (@videogamedeals)
(PCDD) Disgaea PC $6.74 via Humble Store. https://t.co/5uetBBkHTO
punk7890 5/14/2018 2:33 AM
Neko May 5/14/2018 2:57 AM
@punk7890: I think it's status flags set in the CPU SR
3:00 AM
The register dump displays the register names using their MIPS ABI designations rather than just "Rnn" (edited)
3:00 AM
That's almost universal on these crash screens
3:01 AM
"epc" is Exception Program Counter: it's the value of PC when the fault occured
3:03 AM
"badvaddr" is the virtual address being accessed at the time of the fault
3:05 AM
"cause" should be self-explanatory
3:05 AM
"sr" is the contents of the CPU status register
3:05 AM
"fpcsr" is the same but for the Floating Point Coprocessor
3:06 AM
That register dump is rather strange, though
3:07 AM
Is that game actually running the CPU in 64 bit mode?
3:11 AM
Interesting that they crushed all the possible exceptions into a single line (too long for the screen)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/14/2018 3:28 AM
yeah strange
3:28 AM
all 88…
3:28 AM
o
3:28 AM
wait
3:29 AM
I think I got clue
3:29 AM
@Neko May I think 64bit but access is 32bit? that means all register can access 64bit all, or 32/32
3:30 AM
(kinda like 6809)
3:31 AM
then CPU can use 64bit data access or 32/32 data access.
3:31 AM
(It's just a assumption, ignore me)
Neko May 5/14/2018 3:41 AM
Well, I know the chip can be run in 32 or 64 bit mode; that's a feature of all R4xxx MIPS processors
3:44 AM
Most things just run it in 32 bit mode
3:44 AM
Even SGI ran their R4000 and R4400 equipped workstations in 32 bit mode.
3:45 AM
The first chip to be used in 64 bit mode was the R8000
pepper 5/14/2018 4:01 AM
4:01 AM
oh, transparency in the preview is weird
4:03 AM
trying to figure out if there's anything significant about these sprites, they're located at the very beginning of a bank and not much else
4:03 AM
I mean, I guess if 0xf0000 is the start of a bank
Neko May 5/14/2018 4:15 AM
Seems like a good place to start one to me.
4:18 AM
What system is this from?
pepper 5/14/2018 4:19 AM
gameboy (black cart) (edited)
4:19 AM
it has super gameboy support
Neko May 5/14/2018 4:20 AM
Then yes, that has to be the start of a bank because the maximum possible size of a bank is 64K
4:20 AM
Since that's all the DMG/SGB-CPU can address
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/14/2018 4:20 AM
63 bank of madness (edited)
4:21 AM
Sega Saturn or Mega Drive
4:21 AM
both I suck at it (edited)
4:21 AM
you can choose
Neko May 5/14/2018 4:22 AM
The actual size of a GB bank is actually smaller than that since there needs to be room for RAM and peripherals
4:22 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person]: Mega Saturn
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/14/2018 4:22 AM
Why
Neko May 5/14/2018 4:22 AM
shrugs
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/14/2018 4:23 AM
gona play md then
4:23 AM
Regen
Neko May 5/14/2018 4:24 AM
k
4:24 AM
Have fun!
4:25 AM
I'm going to sleep
4:25 AM
punk7890 5/14/2018 5:01 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/995952196779819009
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a couple of debug menus in Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth (N64) https://t.co/LETMqpmlO4 Enemy Select menu contains a list of all the enemies in the game to fight against. They will endless spawn here. Stage Select should be self explanato...
5:01 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/14/2018 5:06 AM
nice!
punk7890 5/14/2018 5:23 AM
thanks
MysticSageJosh 5/14/2018 6:24 AM
Ah crap, i remember having a video of a sonic 06 glitch on my phone
6:24 AM
that no one had talked about, and i had never seen before
6:24 AM
but i deleted it
Netscape Navigator 5/14/2018 7:05 AM
Remember during one of the GDQ speedruns sonic got stuck spinning against a wall in kingdom valley
7:05 AM
and it was literally a “this has never happened before” moment
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/14/2018 7:05 AM
the GDQ meme
Netscape Navigator 5/14/2018 7:08 AM
https://youtu.be/ChZLoHXGgWE?t=3778
Games Done Quick
Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) by tripl3ag3nt in 1:01:05 - SGDQ 2016 - ...
leilei 5/14/2018 7:11 AM
drakken was my favorite moment
7:11 AM
just drakken
7:11 AM
it's drakken
Tsugato 5/14/2018 7:25 AM
LarryLemmy 5/14/2018 8:34 AM
Thanks to a certain Jak and Daxter speedrun I can no longer say "car keys" like a normal person
MysticSageJosh 5/14/2018 8:38 AM
WOW
Tsugato 5/14/2018 8:46 AM
How do you pronounce them? Lol @LarryLemmy
Dezent 5/14/2018 8:47 AM
Probably like "cah kees"
LarryLemmy 5/14/2018 8:48 AM
KHAA KEES
Tsugato 5/14/2018 8:48 AM
I pronounce them like that, lol
Tsugato 5/14/2018 8:56 AM
Collect more orbs to get your cah kees
1
Tsugato 5/14/2018 10:47 AM
That looks aesthetically pleasing, lol
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/14/2018 10:59 AM
11:00 AM
I found debug in SIMPLE 1500 series Vol.47 The Skate Board. but It seems to exists only this text...
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/14/2018 11:13 AM
Hey nice!
goat 5/14/2018 11:19 AM
drakkhen was my first good bad game
11:21 AM
it is an awful game but a fun powergaming game
11:25 AM
i can't even find videos of the really bizarre enemies but like one of them is a extremely tall Matisse painting that instakills party members and drops nothing
11:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnE9XEC5mWw then there's this thing
jamatthews
Drakkhen: I Love You Too
11:27 AM
https://youtu.be/aTgckiiVxsE?t=344 ah, here's the shadow man
Revenant 5/14/2018 11:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_muZXlrhEiQ
top40 1983
Yello - I Love You
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 3:17 PM
Is it ok if i post pics on tcrf I took from my phone temporarily until i get an in-game screenshot?
Revenant 5/14/2018 3:18 PM
no
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 3:20 PM
They're just something like this tho:
3:20 PM
Deleted User 5/14/2018 3:45 PM
it can wait
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 3:46 PM
Oh
Revenant 5/14/2018 3:48 PM
yeah just leave a TODO until you can add proper screenshots
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 3:55 PM
Actually i just went to my PS3 and took them
3:55 PM
3:56 PM
The songs without tags i added btw. Not normally in the game
3:58 PM
I actually wasnt sure if screenshots was a feature on PS3
Deleted User 5/14/2018 3:59 PM
I've never been able to get screenshots to work on mine for some reason
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 4:00 PM
Pressing the button combo didnt work for me. During a game, u just press the PS button, go to photos, save screenshot
Deleted User 5/14/2018 4:01 PM
oh damn
4:01 PM
I'll have to try that some time
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 4:27 PM
https://tcrf.net/Hatsune_Miku:_Project_DIVA_Dreamy_Theater
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Dreamy Theater
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 4:48 PM
I just went back to my PS3 to try something in the game with Extreme and Encore, and I actually just noticed something about it
4:48 PM
When selecting Encore, the confirmation screen says "EXTREAM"
Blaring Coder 395 5/14/2018 4:49 PM
Must be a typo
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 4:50 PM
Well yes I said that on the page that it's spelled incorrectly, but in this case it means Encore is using Extreme's text for that
4:51 PM
The difficulty text is in eboot, and only 1 of the strings says "EXTREAM"
4:51 PM
So it's just using that
f(x)^3 5/14/2018 5:01 PM
Midtown Madness's unused replay texture is pretty crude :P This is how it displays in game when a replay is running, via some x86 editing
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/14/2018 5:10 PM
http://totaljerkface.com/swf/levels/level2.swf there's an unused/unfinished Happy Wheels level
5:11 PM
i found out about it on the happy wheels wiki (edited)
Jhynjhiruu 5/14/2018 5:11 PM
huh
5:11 PM
hmm
5:12 PM
level1_fla
5:12 PM
is that in the other levels too?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/14/2018 5:12 PM
no clue as far as I know, Happy Green Hills (level1.swf) and level2.swf are the only levels that are stored as swf files
5:13 PM
https://tcrf.net/Happy_Wheels_(Adobe_Flash)
Happy Wheels (Adobe Flash)
Jhynjhiruu 5/14/2018 5:13 PM
https://gyazo.com/dec9f50e6ca6b79e49620fe7512c8404 ooh look a car
5:14 PM
theres some actual code in this level, nice
5:14 PM
not a lot, but...
Smoke 5/14/2018 5:17 PM
this level looks boring
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/14/2018 5:18 PM
it was never even finished lmao
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Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 5:18 PM
https://tcrf.net/Hatsune_Miku:_Project_DIVA_Dreamy_Theater updated a few things
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Dreamy Theater
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 5:30 PM
I actually just tried Encore with a dsc that has data (I copied Hard's), but it cant load it
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 5:48 PM
For some reason, it actually loads from Extreme
Deleted User 5/14/2018 5:50 PM
Don't recall leaving here
Stewie1.0 5/14/2018 5:57 PM
Me?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/14/2018 6:08 PM
agh
6:08 PM
i don't think the level works
6:09 PM
I tried to redirect level1.swf to level2.swf and it just goes to a blue screen
Neko May 5/14/2018 6:58 PM
Of death?
Zedd 5/14/2018 8:03 PM
i was doing research into the tf game and i found something rlly funn
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/14/2018 8:11 PM
me_irl
punk7890 5/14/2018 8:26 PM
debug
8:26 PM
colorful debug
3
3
3
3
3
TheMonkeyBob 5/14/2018 9:09 PM
I have started working on WarioWare Inc again. Here are a few fruits of my labour. https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/173908588516/warioware-inc-midi-data-1-25
Deleted User 5/14/2018 9:13 PM
neat
Neko May 5/14/2018 10:51 PM
Maybe they intended for an old T9-style keyboard?
10:52 PM
The bad old days, when typing an "s" meant hitting the 7 key four times.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/14/2018 11:13 PM
but it used to be good
Halfbit 5/14/2018 11:13 PM
Hewwo
Sneaker 5/14/2018 11:22 PM
oooh my Atari VCS heavy sixer won't play any of the Epyx games
11:22 PM
and I have no idea why
11:22 PM
they all use F6 bankswitching but Dig Dug works, so I don't think it's that...
divingkxt 5/14/2018 11:25 PM
Cart pins? (edited)
Sneaker 5/14/2018 11:25 PM
no, this is a harmony cart (flash cart) so I would assume I'd see something else go crazy first
11:25 PM
I've cleaned them though
f(x)^3 5/14/2018 11:29 PM
11:29 PM
This feels like it's a bit big for a sidebar image
11:30 PM
but tbh I don't know any better
leilei 5/14/2018 11:30 PM
criware isn't a developer
Revenant 5/14/2018 11:30 PM
more like hatsune miku dream theater
11:30 PM
also just set |screenwidth=320px or something
Deleted User 5/14/2018 11:30 PM
320 is standard, unless native res of a screenshot is close enough
11:31 PM
(like 3DS's 400px width)
f(x)^3 5/14/2018 11:31 PM
Yeah it's definitely the largest image I've seen so far on one of those bars
Laenthor 5/14/2018 11:41 PM
Not unused, but I'd like to know what this translates to.
divingkxt 5/14/2018 11:50 PM
Not even sure if that's supposed to translate to anything.
11:50 PM
Or if it's just nice scribbles.
11:51 PM
Hylian?
DarthDubඞ 5/15/2018 12:07 AM
i wonder if anyone's heard of the pc game called Keepsake
divingkxt 5/15/2018 12:14 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keepsake_(video_game) This?
Keepsake (video game)
Keepsake is a third person point-and-click adventure game developed by Wicked Studios for Linux, Mac OS X and Windows platforms. The player plays as the main character Lydia. The quest starts that Lydia investigates what happened to Dragonvale Ac...
12:14 AM
First time I heard about it.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/15/2018 12:15 AM
for sake
DarthDubඞ 5/15/2018 12:16 AM
it's one of many point and click adventure games
12:16 AM
i personally don't like it
12:16 AM
but i felt like i should try datamining it
12:17 AM
is finding source code tcrf worthy?
12:18 AM
i know just error messages aren't
Neko May 5/15/2018 12:34 AM
Very TCRF worthy
divingkxt 5/15/2018 12:51 AM
@DarthDubඞ Depends on what the code is?
DarthDubඞ 5/15/2018 12:53 AM
it's in the exe
12:53 AM
divingkxt 5/15/2018 12:53 AM
Is it shader code?
12:53 AM
Not really code though, more like a listing of files used to compile the game.
12:54 AM
Interesting in its own right, but I'm not 100% sure. I guess I can allow it for now.
12:54 AM
Especially if it's closed source.
Dezent 5/15/2018 12:54 AM
DK be like https://www.tenor.co/sUDA.gif
divingkxt 5/15/2018 12:57 AM
It's not uncompiled source code though.
12:57 AM
Think something more like this - https://tcrf.net/Starglider_(Atari_ST)
Starglider (Atari ST)
12:57 AM
One better is https://tcrf.net/Century
Century
12:58 AM
That's more like it.
DarthDubඞ 5/15/2018 1:00 AM
i'm mainly just seeing if there's a debug mode and go from there
Neko May 5/15/2018 1:28 AM
So I just realized, in five years, Perfect Dark will be today.
leilei 5/15/2018 1:31 AM
loads of compilers leave in local paths of the files involved to compile. commonly assertions from visual c runtimes will expose those paths
1:31 AM
i don't think that's tcrfable
1:32 AM
it's not exactly interesting trivia to know where files are linked from (edited)
DarthDubඞ 5/15/2018 1:38 AM
I kinda didn't want to document it anyways
divingkxt 5/15/2018 1:40 AM
Well then, off to the Common Things page it would go.
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/15/2018 2:27 AM
That looks like the end of compiled code
Tsugato 5/15/2018 2:44 AM
Dragon's Lair Amiga 1989, lol
eientei 5/15/2018 2:45 AM
Sounds like a cracker message
leilei 5/15/2018 2:50 AM
^
2:50 AM
not tcrfable either
2:50 AM
unless it's a dev message teasing the cracking scene (edited)
2:50 AM
which there are quite a few of on the amiga
2:51 AM
this is especially a problem when the commonly seen computer dumps are all cracked versions as floppy preservation tech sucks variably
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/15/2018 2:52 AM
is it basically impossible to rip floppies in 1:1 due to the antipiracy schemes? (edited)
Neko May 5/15/2018 3:07 AM
It's possible, but the only tool capable, the KryoFlux, has onerous license restrictions that make the device completely worthless (dumps made using the device cannot be released for any purpose whatsoever, including library preservation).
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/15/2018 3:09 AM
ah
FMecha 5/15/2018 3:10 AM
>made by a software preservation society >dumps made using KryoFlux can't be released whatsoever
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/15/2018 3:11 AM
its still "preservation" technically
3:11 AM
provided they have redundant backups
Neko May 5/15/2018 3:11 AM
Proper preserved software is only achieved when everyone has a copy
3:12 AM
Or at least a sufficient number to be considered close enough to "everyone"
3:12 AM
This is why privately dumped protos are not actually preserved (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/15/2018 3:13 AM
thatd be the ideal definition anyway
3:13 AM
but aint the legal offices gonna listen to any of this
Neko May 5/15/2018 3:13 AM
Fuck them
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/15/2018 3:14 AM
spread all the kryoflux dumps around
Neko May 5/15/2018 3:14 AM
One of the great things about information these days is that once it's free you really can't lock it back up.
3:15 AM
It's practically impossible
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/15/2018 3:16 AM
for better or worse anyway
leilei 5/15/2018 3:20 AM
because cd imaging software never had their "dont duplicate" usage rights ignored (edited)
Neko May 5/15/2018 3:22 AM
Well, the other problem is that since this is pretty specialist, I don't think anyone outside of them have actually done anything to work with their format.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/15/2018 3:24 AM
https://www.kryoflux.com/?page=links_emulators
3:25 AM
i suppose its still possible for an emu to trigger the anti piracy?
Neko May 5/15/2018 3:25 AM
Last I had checked nobody cared because of the restriction.
3:25 AM
Well, if the emulator has imperfections, yes
3:26 AM
It could also be tripping over other, unrelated antipiracy crap
Ziella 5/15/2018 3:37 AM
https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_Odyssey#Peach If I was to make a video render of the unused peach animation, would it be alright to replace the gif that's currently there? The image seems to be marked as needing to be replaced anyway.
Super Mario Odyssey
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/15/2018 3:43 AM
XCOPY… DD…
3:44 AM
sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 of=image.bin
Neko May 5/15/2018 3:50 AM
ddrescue
eientei 5/15/2018 5:09 AM
>One of the great things about information these days is that once it's free you really can't lock it back up. Unless it's only on one site and they block ia_archiver in robots.txt
leilei 5/15/2018 5:14 AM
and unless it's hosted on a short term-hosted free website
5:14 AM
.........that has a robots.txt
5:15 AM
and unless your site is flash only
5:15 AM
or through java applets
punk7890 5/15/2018 6:22 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/996334478124498944
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Tigger's Honey Hunt (N64) https://t.co/A2uuwCh4LE This grants you various level specific bonus.
5
6:22 AM
6:25 AM
also post below is interesting
6:26 AM
That is my ultimate goal to find that. @sunn It may be very soon. (edited)
6:26 AM
I'll be sure to put it on tcrf when I do
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/15/2018 7:15 AM
Streaming soon(tm)
7:15 AM
Today: Hmmm Idk
7:15 AM
random game
Nex 5/15/2018 7:45 AM
play skyrim
MysticSageJosh 5/15/2018 8:26 AM
Fallout New Vegas
T-Squared Productions 5/15/2018 8:34 AM
buuuurp
8:35 AM
Borman 5/15/2018 9:07 AM
Applesauce will be great for Apple II disks, looks to copy things with protection intact
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/15/2018 11:33 AM
To find the debug menu to reality you must unlock all debug menus ever made (edited)
glossydon 5/15/2018 11:40 AM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 Facts.
Mine18 5/15/2018 11:44 AM
shit punk might actually unlock that
11:44 AM
WHAT WILL HE DO
glossydon 5/15/2018 11:51 AM
It's gonna be like west world: he'll do something that re-writes history, and we won't even realize it.
Revenant 5/15/2018 11:51 AM
the debug menu for reality is actually just the debug menu for the coke freestyle machine
Borman 5/15/2018 11:54 AM
2
2
Nex 5/15/2018 11:57 AM
lmfao
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/15/2018 12:00 PM
Debug menu for vending machines when?
Borman 5/15/2018 12:00 PM
4 2 3 1
12:00 PM
Thats the hidden menu on most coke machines
12:00 PM
Been mostly disabled since people found out about it years ago
Nex 5/15/2018 12:01 PM
a fresh bottle of debugged coke™ (edited)
Δndrew P. 5/15/2018 12:37 PM
Ubuntu cola
MysticSageJosh 5/15/2018 12:41 PM
Psyken arrested for hacking into pepsi machines
darkwitchclaire 5/15/2018 12:43 PM
I remember that rumor from my sleep away camp days
MysticSageJosh 5/15/2018 12:44 PM
Psyken states:I hacked into pepsi machines because i was thirsty
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/15/2018 12:48 PM
By the way, what is +v mode?
12:48 PM
I keep seeing it in irc
Xkeeper 5/15/2018 12:51 PM
I thought it was 1 3 2 4
12:51 PM
but either way, it's not really a debug mode as much as it is just letting you see vend counts. you can't do anything exciting with it
12:52 PM
`+v` is "voice". it just lets you talk if the room is `+m` (moderated).
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/15/2018 12:55 PM
Ohhhhh
Stewie1.0 5/15/2018 1:00 PM
@f(x)^3 Dingo didn't help with Dreamy Theater
1:00 PM
That was only the PSP games
1:00 PM
Criware helped with it
1:01 PM
So that's incorrect
f(x)^3 5/15/2018 1:01 PM
I just found the page and the large image, didn't actually work on it
Stewie1.0 5/15/2018 1:01 PM
I worked on it. Someone changed it to Dingo
1:01 PM
I didn't do that
f(x)^3 5/15/2018 1:02 PM
All I did was edit the image size
Stewie1.0 5/15/2018 1:02 PM
Oh
1:06 PM
Fixed it
1:06 PM
Not the image size
Tsugato 5/15/2018 1:10 PM
So... yeah. I'm ripping Jampack Winter 2000 to see if there is anything. Just because I felt like it.
glossydon 5/15/2018 1:16 PM
: (edited)
1:16 PM
.-.
Tsugato 5/15/2018 1:21 PM
Spyro Jampack demo uses WAD?
1:24 PM
Doesn't want to open up with a WAD viewer, so in most cases a unique format for the game.
1:29 PM
One thing is, I might want to compare the demo with the full game things could've possibly changed between the two.
TommyD 5/15/2018 2:18 PM
Budding Snes Hackers : We are in the process of decompiling the Xband patches for Mario Kart, and SSF2. As well as beginning to add a development API for testing patches into Retro.Live. Soon it will be possible to hack native online support into your favorite games
LuigiBlood 5/15/2018 4:19 PM
Revenant 5/15/2018 5:05 PM
do you still need any help dumping patches
TommyD 5/15/2018 6:27 PM
You guys did an awesome job, we were able to recover the SSF2 patch @Revenant
Revenant 5/15/2018 6:27 PM
nice
6:27 PM
is that the one someone (forgot their name sorry) was emailing me about before
TommyD 5/15/2018 6:27 PM
Unfortunately, dumping more would require that we found modems with cell batteries that survived 20 years
Revenant 5/15/2018 6:27 PM
ouch
TommyD 5/15/2018 6:27 PM
6:28 PM
The upside is we have a few patches
Revenant 5/15/2018 6:28 PM
if it helps, i could try to salvage some from ebay and dump whatever they have
TommyD 5/15/2018 6:28 PM
So if we can understand them , the old ones don't matter
6:28 PM
If people are williing to make new ones
Revenant 5/15/2018 6:28 PM
i'd say it's still worth preserving the original ones as much as possible
TommyD 5/15/2018 6:28 PM
I agree
6:28 PM
Especially doom
6:29 PM
Which we don't have
6:29 PM
Because that patch was quite a hack
Borman 5/15/2018 6:29 PM
Is the process documented for dumping?
TommyD 5/15/2018 6:29 PM
Not currently
6:30 PM
We have 3 seperate teams working on things
6:30 PM
One is doing hardware development, one is disassembling / documenting, and one is working on the client / server
Borman 5/15/2018 6:31 PM
Looks like we have a Genesis and Super Nintendo XBand at work, most likely cant send them off anywhere or do anything too invasive on them
TommyD 5/15/2018 6:33 PM
We have some pretty crazy ideas
6:33 PM
We can actually execute code from the server after downloading it in a dB entry
6:34 PM
Considering the idea of being able to download home brew through retro live
6:34 PM
Unfortunately we haven’t done enough tests
6:34 PM
But you could also easily download hack patches for games you own
6:35 PM
Our community is growing pretty steadily, exciting times, now if we can get past the stupid minor issues we’re having
TheMonkeyBob 5/15/2018 7:50 PM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/173940567281/warioware-inc-midi-data-26-100
Rena 5/15/2018 8:37 PM
I wonder if the original authors of those patches would be willing to help recover them
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/15/2018 8:59 PM
wow i finally found dev notes in patapon 3
9:00 PM
and it literally translates to "DELETE"
9:00 PM
isnt that amazing?
Deleted User 5/15/2018 9:17 PM
delete
3
2
2
Deleted User 5/15/2018 9:37 PM
Awwwww yeaaaaa
9:38 PM
How would one start digging inside a 3ds game
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Just uh...curious
9:41 PM
1) homebrew
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2) dump cartridge
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3) decrypt/extract
9:41 PM
4) stick it to atlus
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5) ? (edited)
9:42 PM
6) profit
Neko May 5/15/2018 10:23 PM
I'd love to see if Sega Channel could be emulated
10:24 PM
Hidden Palace has that disc with code and ROMs
divingkxt 5/15/2018 10:27 PM
That was indeed a very interesting find,
10:28 PM
but emulating it requires emulating the unique HW within.
10:28 PM
We have the GI and SA files used for transmission at least.
10:28 PM
And now know how the system worked in greater technical detail.
FMecha 5/15/2018 11:24 PM
What are those two races? I know there is a mention of "sports car", but what exactly?
Rena 5/15/2018 11:28 PM
Google Translate: ■ Sunday Cup ■ Club Man Cup ■ Gran Turismo Cup ■ Gran Turismo · World Championship Normal Car World's Fastest Machine Selected Battle ■ Tuned Car World's Fastest Machine Battle ■ Light Weight Sports World's Final Battle ■ FF Car World's Best Battle ■ FR Car World One decision fight ■ Japan-US competing sports car championship ■ Japan-UK Sports Car Championship
punk7890 5/15/2018 11:28 PM
hi
Rena 5/15/2018 11:28 PM
punk7890 5/15/2018 11:29 PM
(* ´艸｀)ｸｽｸｽ
Dezent 5/16/2018 12:50 AM
I see GT, I approve
Neko May 5/16/2018 12:55 AM
I prefer Sega GT
12:56 AM
Though Sega GT 2002 was a pretty heavy improvement
12:56 AM
Sega GT Online was a pile of shit, though.
Dezent 5/16/2018 12:59 AM
Gran Turismo was my shit when I was a wee little lad
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1:00 AM
Even today I play GT1 once in a while, just to re-ignite that nostalgia
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Neko May 5/16/2018 1:10 AM
This is not a Sony household
1:10 AM
lol
1:12 AM
Hm. The music in SF Rush for the N64 isn't tracked. I guess it makes sense, the cabinet used Midway's DCS
1:13 AM
They probably just ported the music over
1:13 AM
I think they had to reduce the quality, though
caff!!! 5/16/2018 1:13 AM
That'd suck up a lot of space
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:13 AM
I don't remember it sounding so shit in the arcade
1:14 AM
It's definitely low bitrate prerecorded music, though.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:15 AM
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:16 AM
Each .usf is only 64 bytes
1:16 AM
So it's just calling into the .usflib with a pointer
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:16 AM
I can actually can play After Burner 2 on arcade
1:16 AM
nearby arcade have them
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:16 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person]: Cool
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:17 AM
And ROM was Gen2
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:17 AM
Deluxe supercab or lame standup?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:17 AM
Lame one
1:17 AM
But ROM is Gen2 which have melody
1:17 AM
rare
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:17 AM
Better than nothing, I guess
1:18 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person]: Is Daytona USA still really big over there in Japan, too?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:18 AM
I think so
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:18 AM
Cool.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:18 AM
but I seen one only
1:18 AM
SS port was actually quite good
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:18 AM
Practically every arcade in the US has it
1:19 AM
Still
1:19 AM
25 years later
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:19 AM
moving parts deceases
1:19 AM
I think father can repair it
1:19 AM
He worked at SEGA
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:19 AM
They usually have the small cab with jerking seat
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:20 AM
SEGA Enterprises
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:20 AM
You never see the full size anymore
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:20 AM
Amusement section, And yea
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:20 AM
That's cool
1:20 AM
PRODUCED BY OR UNDER LICENSE FROM SEGA ENTERPRISES LTD.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:21 AM
yea
1:21 AM
those img is actually verified on-disk
1:21 AM
not system specfic
1:21 AM
I think.
1:22 AM
on SS atleast; because modchip
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:22 AM
Mmmm, piracy.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:22 AM
I have one in my SS ;)
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:22 AM
Good. :3
1:23 AM
Though I like that the Dreamcast didn't even need one
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:23 AM
but I'd wait till those datapass
1:23 AM
Mil-CD?
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:23 AM
Yep
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 1:23 AM
Yeah I have DC that's compatible with it
Neko May 5/16/2018 1:23 AM
All but the very last were
1:27 AM
*listens to the High Score Name Entry Screen Music from San Francisco Rush: Extreme Racing (N64)" (edited)
punk7890 5/16/2018 2:00 AM
SF Rush N64 is sequenced music
2:00 AM
can't remember what type
2:00 AM
I think it was some format that not many N64 games used
2:01 AM
I think it's the same format as one of the Crusin' games
Neko May 5/16/2018 2:08 AM
All the "files" are 64 bytes in size. Not sure of the size of the sound engine, it's probably huge
2:10 AM
I know Midway had been using their DCS on the arcade machines for a while by that point, which stored the music in what was essentially an MP3-like format
Ziella 5/16/2018 6:07 AM
Was digging around in Wallace & Gromit in Project Zoo for the gamecube and found a developer comment. `//Ok, here's a few rules that have just cropped up since ResTool not only scans this //bloody file, it also #includes the sodding thing. //if you want bits NOT to be compiled in ResTool (which is a bloody GOOD THING) //then, shove them in an '#if !RESTOOL_COMPILE' AT THE END OF THE FILE! //why? //oh, just let me explain. Get yourself comfy. //ResTool currently has some project specific code dependancies for displaying animations //and so on. To do this, it needs to create objects (world_objects etc..), it figures out //which ones to create from this table. This isn't a problem, because this table is #included //into Objects.cpp and so the right thing is created. //But it's not. ResTool, in order to get the unique ID of the creature class type id to //create, 'reads' this file on the fly and isn't bright enough to spot the #if !RESTOOL_COMPILES //(because it's not been told about it.) //So what happens? //If you'd done an #if ! around something in the middle of table, lets just say one thing, //something like camera. ResTool upon 'reading' this file, will assign it an ID even though //it's in an #if !. So then when ResTool actually gets around to creating an object, it passes //THE WRONG BLOODY ID into Objects_CreateOne in Objects.cpp. So in the case of removing one //item, you won't get the item you want, you'll get the one BELOW (since the one you want //hasn't been compiled.) //Bloody resource tool project dependancies grumble whinge moan splutter fist shaking.`
punk7890 5/16/2018 6:09 AM
nice
Dezent 5/16/2018 6:12 AM
10/10 lol
eientei 5/16/2018 6:35 AM
>bloody >sodding British devs?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/16/2018 6:42 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_Developments
Frontier Developments
Frontier Developments plc (formerly Frontier Developments Limited) is a British video game developer based in Cambridge, England founded in January 1994. David Braben is the founder and chief executive officer of the company. It has produced seve...
6:42 AM
indeed
6:44 AM
Netscape Navigator 5/16/2018 6:52 AM
Sometimes you have to make ends meet
6:53 AM
Or someone thinks “why aren’t there more games where you play as a dog”
Tsugato 5/16/2018 7:43 AM
So, when I mounted Virtual Hydlide onto my PC, Foobar2000 detected there was a soundtrack with the game, lol.
7:43 AM
Nothing too important, but I forgot games can pack soundtracks with their games.
eientei 5/16/2018 7:56 AM
1995 CD game has audio tracks. More at 11
Tsugato 5/16/2018 7:57 AM
Lol
Tsugato 5/16/2018 8:05 AM
I like it when games do that tbh
eientei 5/16/2018 8:12 AM
Look at Saturn games then
Tsugato 5/16/2018 8:15 AM
One of my favorite soundtracks from games has to be Namco Museum Vol. 1 for the PS1 lol
eientei 5/16/2018 8:17 AM
One of my favourite soundtracks from games has to be Pong for the Arcade lol
8:17 AM
BEEP
8:17 AM
BOOP
8:18 AM
BUZZZZZZZ
Tsugato 5/16/2018 8:19 AM
Have you ever listened to Video Game Music by Haruomi Hosono? It's just basically game sounds mashed with others. lol
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 9:04 AM
wait no
9:04 AM
https://twitter.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/996728782756048902
小島秀夫 (@Kojima_Hideo)
4Kの素材を取り込んで編集しようとしたら、僕のパソコンは馬力不足でスムーズに動かず、リニア編集出来ず。しばらく2Kで編集する
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9:04 AM
E3_2018
9:04 AM
er...I think
9:04 AM
new game?
Tsugato 5/16/2018 9:09 AM
o
9:10 AM
So... he's also having an issue with 4k?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 9:10 AM
Yea (edited)
9:10 AM
his PC spec can't edit 4Ks (edited)
9:10 AM
duie to lack of speeds/CPU/GPU w/w (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/16/2018 9:10 AM
>When I tried to import and edit 4k material, my personal computer was not able to move smoothly because of a horse shortage, and I could not edit it linearly. Edit in 2k for a while
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 9:10 AM
^
Tsugato 5/16/2018 9:10 AM
>horse shortage
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 9:10 AM
^
Tsugato 5/16/2018 9:11 AM
lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/16/2018 9:11 AM
tfw kojima cant afford enough horses for computer
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 9:11 AM
yea
9:11 AM
caff!!! 5/16/2018 9:11 AM
Most likely death stranding trailer
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 9:11 AM
I am very concerning
Tsugato 5/16/2018 9:11 AM
Donate horses to Kojima
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 9:12 AM
do 32KHz DAC Stream on MD
9:12 AM
Possible 8bit 32KHz (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/16/2018 9:38 AM
9:38 AM
I found debug display in Gundam The Battle Master 2 (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 9:43 AM
sizeof
Tsugato 5/16/2018 9:45 AM
Nice.
Blaring Coder 395 5/16/2018 9:59 AM
Wow.
Δndrew P. 5/16/2018 10:21 AM
In the GameCube version of Puyo Puyo Fever, there is a .CONF file that mentions something about the GameCube's AX Sound Library. It is located in \tmp\snd\gcax
10:21 AM
GCAX.CONF
1.57 KB
LeanTM 5/16/2018 10:42 AM
hello
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/16/2018 10:43 AM
hello
Neko May 5/16/2018 10:58 AM
Hello. :3
🐮 5/16/2018 11:04 AM
Hello
Deleted User 5/16/2018 11:34 AM
I knocked out before attempting to dig into Redux.
11:34 AM
Ill attempt after work
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 11:56 AM
@Deleted User hi
Deleted User 5/16/2018 11:56 AM
Hey chroma
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 11:56 AM
time to buy PS2(
11:57 AM
or PS3
11:57 AM
or something else that i can mod
11:57 AM
but for PS2, emu is totally bae…
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/16/2018 12:10 PM
ugh
12:10 PM
wifi died
goat 5/16/2018 4:28 PM
grab a ps4 :V the progress on its emulation ain't going too badly
Laenthor 5/16/2018 4:38 PM
Well the homebrew on switch was just prefected a few days ago. Now we just need some apps to load from it
LeanTM 5/16/2018 5:01 PM
not mine but...
punk7890 5/16/2018 5:53 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/996871128676163584
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a hidden cheat system and several debug displays in Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (N64) https://t.co/BmVJLeH1HB This lets you toggle unlimited ammo, toggle blood on / off and many more. The debug displays allow you to edit map lighting and li...
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Nex 5/16/2018 5:54 PM
legend says punk will stop finding debug menus one day
MysticSageJosh 5/16/2018 5:54 PM
that legend will die once punk finds the debug menu to it
Nex 5/16/2018 5:56 PM
legend = false
5:56 PM
woosh
5:56 PM
gone
Dezent 5/16/2018 5:57 PM
Legend says that if you look into or towards punk, you see a debug menu
Nex 5/16/2018 5:58 PM
big if true
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/16/2018 5:59 PM
legend says punk found his own debug menu
6:00 PM
now he uses this knowledge to find new debug menus
Revenant 5/16/2018 6:11 PM
Blaring Coder 395 5/16/2018 6:13 PM
I saw that film
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/16/2018 6:19 PM
whats up with his finger lol
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/16/2018 6:25 PM
Isn't that movie ridiculously depressing for something that was promoted as a generic Adam Sandler comedy?
TheMonkeyBob 5/16/2018 6:26 PM
Ya, kinda
leilei 5/16/2018 7:12 PM
what i really want to know about rainbow six n64
7:12 PM
does it still have the fart cheat code (edited)
7:12 PM
and the turnpunchkick code
7:15 PM
it's a shame quake engine games don't really have debug menus
7:15 PM
the only exception are ubertools games on a few
7:15 PM
which i should document one day
7:16 PM
since you can't simply just console your way into them
7:16 PM
well i guess the console ports are the exceptions too
Blaring Coder 395 5/16/2018 7:37 PM
TurnPunchKick code was covered on Cybernet in 1999
GerbilSoft 5/16/2018 8:19 PM
>receive new projector bulb in the mail
8:19 PM
8:19 PM
this is fine
Neko May 5/16/2018 9:02 PM
I'm not familiar with projector bulbs. What's the problem?
MysticSageJosh 5/16/2018 9:08 PM
is it like
9:09 PM
burnt out
9:09 PM
or something?
9:09 PM
is it broken?
GerbilSoft 5/16/2018 9:20 PM
It's a "new" bulb
9:20 PM

- the plastic casing is broken

9:21 PM

- one of the wires isn't connected

MysticSageJosh 5/16/2018 9:22 PM
it doesn't look..
9:22 PM
complete
Neko May 5/16/2018 9:37 PM
Ah, I wasn't sure if it supposed to be like that or not, and I can't even see any wires
9:37 PM
Oh
9:37 PM
They're the EXACT SAME COLOR as the plastic housing
9:39 PM
I thought the disconnected one was part of the plastic
Deleted User 5/16/2018 10:18 PM
where should I post ?
divingkxt 5/16/2018 10:23 PM
Why not here http://jul.rustedlogic.net/forum.php?id=12
10:23 PM
or here? https://www.reddit.com/r/tcrf/
r/tcrf
Deleted User 5/16/2018 10:27 PM
can I at least post a screen shot here? or some channel?
divingkxt 5/16/2018 10:27 PM
Sure.
10:27 PM
Post a screenshot here.
Deleted User 5/16/2018 10:28 PM
basically , unused area in ctf_turbine from team fortress 2 (tf2) .
10:28 PM
10:28 PM
10:33 PM
I once found that area in pl_upward.
felineki 5/16/2018 10:45 PM
Anyone remember hearing this in Night Warriors? I can't, offhand. Probably unused.
Deleted User 5/16/2018 10:47 PM
@Deleted User I am pretty sure that those areas were used for the meet your match update
10:47 PM
see ?
10:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvuqLylQOoE
teamfortress
Meet your Match
Deleted User 5/16/2018 11:10 PM
@felineki Never heard that before .
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/16/2018 11:30 PM
holy fuck we literally got some of the scrapped gen 1 pokemon
3
2
3
11:30 PM
and they're all amazing
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/16/2018 11:37 PM
i'm ecstatic right now i've literally wanted this my whole life (edited)
11:38 PM
it's such a tragedy that there are text boxes in the way of most of them though
11:39 PM
i mean just look at it, those literally were pokemon on equal ground with all the other first generation of pokemon among the sprites from pokemon red and green and they scrapped them. how could they do that.
divingkxt 5/16/2018 11:40 PM
I think that's part of the reason it took six years to make the game.
11:40 PM
Because there were loads of designs and the team had to streamline which ones would make it into the game.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/16/2018 11:42 PM
that's not an excuse they should have put the unused designs in the second generation of pokemon without modifying them. they are literally pokemon.
divingkxt 5/16/2018 11:43 PM
Kind of hard to compel developers to re-use designs that were rejected.
11:44 PM
Some of those look like they might have been reworked for the second and third gens.
11:44 PM
Notably Deer and Jag.
DarthDubඞ 5/16/2018 11:45 PM
i think the shark one became sharpedo
divingkxt 5/16/2018 11:46 PM
Deer became Stantler.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/16/2018 11:46 PM
stantler sucks ass and that pokemon is a deer with a metal shell and spikes on it. it just isn't fair.
divingkxt 5/16/2018 11:47 PM
人気投票 = Popular Vote
11:47 PM
And the heading on the right says it was an in-company vote for Game Freak.
11:47 PM
So yeah.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/16/2018 11:49 PM
these are literally some of the original 190 pokemon
divingkxt 5/16/2018 11:50 PM
Speaking of which, I'm not sure how far people dug into the original Red and Green from Japan.
11:50 PM
I know people found the text entries, but not so much as for the code used to generate the Pokemon portraits.
Deleted User 5/16/2018 11:52 PM
i remember reading that there's leftover data from the gen 2 pokemon being in r/g
11:52 PM
some where thou .
divingkxt 5/16/2018 11:53 PM
I'm not exactly sure if you can say that, but yes, those empty slots in R/G do correspond with certain Pokemon in Gen 2.
11:53 PM
Including Lugia and Ho-Oh.
Deleted User 5/16/2018 11:54 PM
mhm
11:54 PM
i can't remember thou , that was like YEARS ago
11:55 PM
like when the dsi was popular
divingkxt 5/16/2018 11:56 PM
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_(Generation_I)
Listof_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number(Generation_I)
Deleted User 5/16/2018 11:57 PM
right , lol .
felineki 5/17/2018 12:10 AM
Listening to the sample ROM again, I think I hear a few other unused sounds in Night Warriors. Will have to add them to the article eventually. (edited)
Neko May 5/17/2018 12:27 AM
@felineki: Your name seems familiar. Have we met before?
leilei 5/17/2018 12:27 AM
yeah i never noticed which were used or not either
12:27 AM
having listened through the raw roms in cooledit ages ago
12:29 AM
back when i was ripping them to do .mods with
Deleted User 5/17/2018 12:29 AM
@leilei your icon has rather nice art btw
12:30 AM
tfw ur game boy's sprites turn to a black box .
DarthDubඞ 5/17/2018 12:32 AM
reminds me when i tried to put missingno into pokemon stadium
12:32 AM
it wouldn't let me
12:32 AM
but it showed a substitute doll as the pokemon (edited)
Deleted User 5/17/2018 12:37 AM
Rena 5/17/2018 12:48 AM
That's the save memory failing. Probably the battery.
12:48 AM
Pokemon uses some save memory as a buffer to decompress mon sprites
Deleted User 5/17/2018 12:56 AM
ik .
12:56 AM
that happened to meh irl .
Neko May 5/17/2018 1:44 AM
The SRAM chip should be powered by the GB when it's turned on, though.
FMecha 5/17/2018 1:47 AM
While trying to poll car IDs for Advan Racing, I got a dummy icon
Neko May 5/17/2018 1:54 AM
And a corrupt drivetrain indicator
1:55 AM
Try starting the race
1:55 AM
lol
FMecha 5/17/2018 2:09 AM
It reverts to first unlockable car, FER-F50 (Ferrari F50)
2:10 AM
On NC1 class at least, so on other classes must be first unlockable car for each class
Neko May 5/17/2018 2:20 AM
Hm.
punk7890 5/17/2018 5:13 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/997042374869041152
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a couple of debug displays in Xena: Warrior Princess: Talisman of Fate (N64) https://t.co/pv4tzEJtin This enables system information and combat information. The system information display is also present in Top Gear Rally 2.
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Kuri 5/17/2018 10:29 AM
I have a question concerning uploading files (not sure if this is the channel to ask):
10:30 AM
I have around 400 audio files (totalling to about 6MB for all of them) that I want to upload. All are unused voice clips for Gran Turismo 5. Is there a bulk uploader and tagger instead of uploading them individually?
Dezent 5/17/2018 10:43 AM
As a GT fan, what are these voice clips about?
Kuri 5/17/2018 10:47 AM
They pertain to the Special Events in the game, particularly the Gran Turismo Rally and NASCAR events
Dezent 5/17/2018 10:49 AM
Aah
10:49 AM
Nice
Oddbrother 5/17/2018 10:56 AM
Hehe, Jeff Gordon's voice.
🦊 5/17/2018 2:30 PM
rip discord
2:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DhUOPdR.png
caff!!! 5/17/2018 2:42 PM
jc the discord is dying
BridgetX 5/17/2018 2:43 PM
Someone help discord
MysticSageJosh 5/17/2018 2:46 PM
discord is exploding internally
BridgetX 5/17/2018 3:01 PM
Oof this server died to me again
Oddbrother 5/17/2018 3:23 PM
I got some things to contribute to a game.
3:23 PM
'Member this?
Blaring Coder 395 5/17/2018 6:27 PM
Fight 1 Ready... GO!
Deleted User 5/17/2018 8:43 PM
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Deleted User 5/17/2018 9:17 PM
hahaha
TheMonkeyBob 5/17/2018 9:18 PM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174005433661/warioware-inc-midi-data-101-200
Master of Nothing
WarioWare Inc MIDI Data 101-200
I am continuing to go through WarioWare Inc’s audio files to look for any text that has been included. This is not usually possible with GBA games, as they typically do not use MIDI files for their...
🐮 5/18/2018 2:27 AM
That is amazing, Smegma Chicken
Deleted User 5/18/2018 3:03 AM
Can't find 2001 background in hl2 beta files
punk7890 5/18/2018 4:41 AM
BETA
Chorus Line 5/18/2018 4:44 AM
beta alpha omega
leilei 5/18/2018 4:57 AM
i'd imagine the ye ol '03 leak had been regurgitated with less/different content as time goes on nowadays (edited)
Uncanny 5/18/2018 5:54 AM
I believe the menu images are in the /launcher folder in pak01_dir, you need one of nems tool's to open vpk's, unfortunately I dont know which version can open the vpk version from the hl2 leak
punk7890 5/18/2018 6:45 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/997427871978213376
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few debug menus in Choukuukan: Night Pro Yakyuu King (N64) https://t.co/cJYyIe03gv Unfortunately, not a lot works here anymore as these menu options don't exist anymore. There's also, what appears to be, a bare-bones main menu screen l...
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Gilgamesh 5/18/2018 7:26 AM
7:26 AM
hello there
punk7890 5/18/2018 7:29 AM
hi
Dezent 5/18/2018 7:30 AM
yo
Gilgamesh 5/18/2018 7:33 AM
o/
punk7890 5/18/2018 7:35 AM
お休み
Gilgamesh 5/18/2018 7:42 AM
KOB not GOB
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/18/2018 7:58 AM
hi
Neko May 5/18/2018 7:58 AM
Hello
Dezent 5/18/2018 7:59 AM
Heyo
UT 5/18/2018 7:59 AM
Morning (edited)
Halfbit 5/18/2018 8:11 AM
Morning
Gilgamesh 5/18/2018 8:18 AM
14:18
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/18/2018 8:35 AM
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Dezent 5/18/2018 8:36 AM
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Gilgamesh 5/18/2018 8:45 AM
Japan
8:45 AM
Greenwich
8:46 AM
+1
Nex 5/18/2018 9:28 AM
15:28
Blaring Coder 395 5/18/2018 11:14 AM
17:16
Δndrew P. 5/18/2018 12:14 PM
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Dezent 5/18/2018 12:15 PM
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🐮 5/18/2018 12:19 PM
18:19/06:19PM
Nex 5/18/2018 12:48 PM
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Dezent 5/18/2018 1:01 PM
20:00
MysticSageJosh 5/18/2018 1:11 PM
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Revenant 5/18/2018 1:12 PM
http://tane.us/ac/
Neko May 5/18/2018 1:31 PM
1:31PM
Nex 5/18/2018 1:51 PM
19:51
Laenthor 5/18/2018 3:23 PM
15:23
Dezent 5/18/2018 3:24 PM
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Gilgamesh 5/18/2018 3:52 PM
cool
3:52 PM
what time is it?
Rena 5/18/2018 4:03 PM
'bout tree fiddy
🐮 5/18/2018 4:03 PM
lmao
Deleted User 5/18/2018 4:04 PM
lol
Gilgamesh 5/18/2018 4:08 PM
@@
MysticSageJosh 5/18/2018 4:08 PM
boobs
Gilgamesh 5/18/2018 4:08 PM
no
MysticSageJosh 5/18/2018 4:09 PM
yes
Gilgamesh 5/18/2018 4:09 PM
eyes swirling
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/18/2018 5:16 PM
hahaha
5:16 PM
i finally found something thats somewhat like a dev note in patapon 3 (edited)
5:16 PM
finally
5:17 PM
English File: `no translation needed` Japanese File: `削除 本クエストは、未実装につき削除されました。 翻訳の必要はありません。` Translation: `Deleted This quest has been deleted, because it was unimplimented. There is no need for translation.`
moonie 5/18/2018 5:18 PM
5:18 PM
welp i think it's safe to say this is a lost cause
GerbilSoft 5/18/2018 5:41 PM
what is that
5:42 PM
...a copy of Pokemon Diamond?
moonie 5/18/2018 6:25 PM
yes
Nex 5/18/2018 6:25 PM
good game
Smoke 5/18/2018 6:36 PM
rip
Nex 5/18/2018 6:36 PM
rip
Smoke 5/18/2018 6:36 PM
nvm it works again
Nex 5/18/2018 6:52 PM
oof
6:52 PM
00:52
punk7890 5/18/2018 8:02 PM
hi
Nex 5/18/2018 8:07 PM
yo
Neko May 5/18/2018 8:08 PM
️
TommyD 5/18/2018 8:14 PM
@Revenant @LuigiBlood Question
LuigiBlood 5/18/2018 8:14 PM
?
TommyD 5/18/2018 8:14 PM
Are there any... Literal differences in Super Fami and SNES?
8:15 PM
We had someone connect to our server with an american xband on a Super Fami
8:15 PM
And we got something.... a little strange
LuigiBlood 5/18/2018 8:15 PM
NTSC SNES hardware shouldn't be any different
8:15 PM
The differences may be in the revisions, instead
8:16 PM
CPU, PPU revisions and stuff
TommyD 5/18/2018 8:16 PM
So nothing that could potentially shift a value down 12 bytes in memory
LuigiBlood 5/18/2018 8:16 PM
normally, no
Neko May 5/18/2018 8:16 PM
NTSC-J has only one difference I know of from NTSC-U
LuigiBlood 5/18/2018 8:16 PM
there is?
8:17 PM
aside from physical design
Neko May 5/18/2018 8:17 PM
And that's the lowest value of the color black
TommyD 5/18/2018 8:17 PM
Okay
Neko May 5/18/2018 8:17 PM
I mean NTSC itself
TommyD 5/18/2018 8:17 PM
That wouldn't come into play here
Neko May 5/18/2018 8:17 PM
No, so I can't think of anything that would cause such a thing
TommyD 5/18/2018 8:18 PM
Unless
8:18 PM
Hmmm
Neko May 5/18/2018 8:18 PM
The hardware should be identical
LuigiBlood 5/18/2018 8:18 PM
The only thing I can think of that could make a difference is rather the aging hardware
8:18 PM
like clocks
Neko May 5/18/2018 8:19 PM
That shouldn't cause things in RAM to shift around
Revenant 5/18/2018 8:19 PM
the hardware is identical aside from CPU/PPU revisions (which aren't region related) and CIC differences (which aren't NTSC-specific and if that was the trouble then the xband wouldn't even boot)
LuigiBlood 5/18/2018 8:19 PM
it's the only thing I can think of
Neko May 5/18/2018 8:20 PM
@LuigiBlood: No, if it was that messed up there would be clear and obvious problems with the console.
LuigiBlood 5/18/2018 8:20 PM
well yeah
8:20 PM
But I mean that did make Super Metroid longer to "load" from what I've heard from TASBot team
8:21 PM
it's a slight difference
8:21 PM
But enough for them to have problems
8:21 PM
But honestly
8:21 PM
NTSC hardware are identical
Revenant 5/18/2018 8:21 PM
i think if the clock were fucked up enough to somehow cause that then you'd also be seeing noticeable sync issues in the TV signal
Neko May 5/18/2018 8:22 PM
Exactly
8:22 PM
Besides, it's simply not possible anyway
cuba200611 5/18/2018 10:01 PM
The only lockout the SNES has with Japanese carts is physical - two tabs on the sides of the cartridge slot.
10:02 PM
Remove those two with pliers, and bam, now you can play SFC carts in your American SNES. (edited)
Halfbit 5/18/2018 10:04 PM
Can you play PAL carts on US SNES too?
cuba200611 5/18/2018 10:04 PM
Nope without an additional device... (edited)
10:05 PM
NTSC models have actual lockout hardware to prevent PAL carts from being used on them, and vis-versa... (edited)
Revenant 5/18/2018 10:06 PM
you "can" if you replace the CIC or use an adapter
10:06 PM
they're not guaranteed to run correctly
Neko May 5/18/2018 10:06 PM
It's just a different CIC
cuba200611 5/18/2018 10:06 PM
And even then, running a PAL game on a NTSC machine will have issues...
Neko May 5/18/2018 10:06 PM
Yeah, naturally
cuba200611 5/18/2018 10:06 PM
Other way around is about the same issue... (edited)
Revenant 5/18/2018 10:07 PM
i've run enough PAL games on my NTSC SNES without issue but it's not a guaranteed thing
cuba200611 5/18/2018 10:07 PM
Game will either run a bit too fast or too slow, and timing issues can lead to other problems... (edited)
Neko May 5/18/2018 10:07 PM
It won't run properly; it will be too slow or.... yeah
Revenant 5/18/2018 10:08 PM
if you don't care about the speed difference then the only real potential timing issue is the reduced DMA bandwidth on NTSC consoles, which isn't always actually a problem
cuba200611 5/18/2018 10:08 PM
So it's not as severe as say the C64...
Revenant 5/18/2018 10:08 PM
no
10:09 PM
cycle-timed software on the SNES is generally not a thing
Halfbit 5/18/2018 10:10 PM
I can run PAL games fine on my SD2SNES
cuba200611 5/18/2018 10:10 PM
Is the CPU clocked differently on PAL units than NTSC units, or no?
10:11 PM
Since that was a thing with the C64, and various other machines... (edited)
Revenant 5/18/2018 10:11 PM
it is, but it rarely matters
10:12 PM
the master clock is less than 1% slower
Neko May 5/18/2018 10:12 PM
Yes, they did the usual cheap tjing and clocked everything with the crystal relevant to the standard
10:12 PM
That's why the IBM PC is 4.77MHz
10:13 PM
It uses an NTSC colorburst crystal
10:13 PM
Because they were absolutely cheap as hell
10:14 PM
Far cheaper and more available than a 5MHz crystal
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/18/2018 10:57 PM
currently trying to understand patapon 3 dlc file structure
10:57 PM
theres approx. 10 empty dlc files i can use to test the game (edited)
FMecha 5/19/2018 12:32 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ can you help translate those? I know the car mentioned is a Honda Prelude
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/19/2018 12:36 AM
乗換: Change the this car 戦績をみる: Watch the record 詳細をみる: Watch the detail 調整する: Tune up 車をよくみる: Watch the car
s0lo 5/19/2018 12:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwad39VC74Y&feature=youtu.be lenstar made this video????
Lenstar Productions
Wii Fit Plus - binder.brres
felineki 5/19/2018 3:02 AM
Wait, the Chrono Trigger prototype let you change equipment during battle?
3:02 AM
https://twitter.com/sananoboyaki/status/838102577614991360 First I'd heard of that.
竹沢梨奈@干支忍箱推し (@sananoboyaki)
寝る前に体験版ネタ バトル中に装備変更とか何それ戦略性ひろがるやん #クロノ・トリガー体験版
3:04 AM
https://twitter.com/sananoboyaki/status/859394160494649345 DOOR MAGICALLY BECOMES TABLE
竹沢梨奈@干支忍箱推し (@sananoboyaki)
マールの部屋へ行ったついでに王様の部屋も訪問してみたら扉がとんでもない事になった マールの部屋はちゃんと開くのになんで！？ #クロノ・トリガー体験版 https://t.co/P89D5FxQvp
3:11 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDGuwZkV0AEFmBj.jpg "We intend to further change this skill/spell/attack/whatever."
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/19/2018 4:46 AM
4:46 AM
I found debug display in Spectral Force.
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punk7890 5/19/2018 4:46 AM
nice work
4:46 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/19/2018 4:49 AM
Thank you!
punk7890 5/19/2018 4:54 AM
https://twitter.com/ash0966/status/997175662019469313
深町秋生・5月18日「オーバーキルＢＣ２」発刊予定 (@ash0966)
地方都市には驚きがつまってるもので、昨年の岩手一関市で見たこれには驚かされたものだ。
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BETA
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/19/2018 4:58 AM
ベータ！
punk7890 5/19/2018 4:58 AM
大勝だな
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/19/2018 4:59 AM
but I have see VHS only. I have not see Betamax tape.
punk7890 5/19/2018 5:00 AM
Yeah, I don't think I have heard of them before.
punk7890 5/19/2018 5:16 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/997767294573932544
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several debug menus, a sound test, and an unused game mechanic in Famista 64 (N64) https://t.co/qCF0CqYNUc These menus enable animation viewers, team viewers, stadium viewers, and a test mode that allows you to toggle various settings fo...
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Athena 悠里マヤ 5/19/2018 5:57 AM
nice!
punk7890 5/19/2018 6:04 AM
thanks
BoringPerson 5/19/2018 6:22 AM
@FMecha don't know if anyone mentioned it, but in that screenshot, プレリュード looks like "Prelude" to me
FMecha 5/19/2018 6:22 AM
I already said that
6:22 AM
It's a reference to a Honda car model
BoringPerson 5/19/2018 6:22 AM
oops, I skimmed too fast
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/19/2018 7:00 AM
@FMecha I wrote translation under your reply. and I forgot it: "現在の車": Current car
FMecha 5/19/2018 7:01 AM
We already sort of implied it
7:02 AM
Since it is located where My Car is in final
Neko May 5/19/2018 7:34 AM
I've seen Betamax gear
7:35 AM
The cassettes are different dimensions. About the same thickness, not as wide as VHS but maybe a little longer (it's been a while)
7:36 AM
VHS won because it was an open standard
7:36 AM
Anyone could make VHS gear, only Sony could make Betamax gear.
7:37 AM
Trivia: VHS stand for Video Home System.
7:39 AM
It uses a helical scan arrangement wherein instead of linear recording, the heads spin at a 7° angle to the tape and record in a series of diagonal strips
7:40 AM
If you've ever had to adjust the "tracking" on a VCR (or seen a later one do it automatically) what you're (or it is) doing is making the heads line up with the strips.
7:41 AM
Helical scan allows for more recorded content to use less tape.
7:42 AM
Anyway, this has been Intro to VHS. Comments and questions welcome. :3
LarryLemmy 5/19/2018 9:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeLMIrsEfFo
Z4RT4N
Oh No... BETA!!!
z20kdc 5/19/2018 10:02 AM
Neko Ed: Could a VHS player be adapted to be semi-digital (most of the system being the same, but signal contents being digital data at a sufficient speed)?
10:02 AM
Obviously such a thing would not be compatible with anything else (unless the adaptation was made consistent) (edited)
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 11:10 AM
ever heard of d-vhs?
11:10 AM
im probably missing context and that wasnt a good answer
eientei 5/19/2018 11:10 AM
https://discord.statuspage.io/incidents/78mytz9rr1vd
Discord Status - Message Send Failures
Discord's Status Page - Message Send Failures.
11:11 AM
Ironically, this failed being sent
z20kdc 5/19/2018 11:15 AM
Jhynjhiruu: ...that was a decent answer to my question, at least, thanks
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 11:15 AM
techmoan did a video on it
11:15 AM
seeing hd footage of new york from 1993 is quite surreal
meeper 5/19/2018 11:36 AM
What are some 64 games with secret button codes to access stuff like debug or crash menus that you guys can think of?
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 11:36 AM
oot
11:36 AM
mm
11:36 AM
i think af
meeper 5/19/2018 11:38 AM
wow i actually didn’t know that
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 11:38 AM
crash menus i think
Neko May 5/19/2018 12:25 PM
@z20kdc: There were also a few systems for using VHS tapes for computer data backup
12:26 PM
They were particularly popular in Russia
The Dinkster 5/19/2018 12:43 PM
G U Y S https://youtu.be/LvIEI_zKjxw?t=6m40s
Retro Master
Sonic Mania 1.04 Encore Mode: Playthrough
12:43 PM
also i need an account
Neko May 5/19/2018 12:45 PM
Huh, VHS-D is also a Croatian assault rifle.
12:45 PM
@The Dinkster: Ask in #account-requests
The Dinkster 5/19/2018 12:55 PM
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MysticSageJosh 5/19/2018 2:26 PM
use the VHS-D to protect the D-VHS! (edited)
z20kdc 5/19/2018 2:54 PM
"These videos are protected by international maritime laws and lethal force."
2:54 PM
"Do not copy."
goat 5/19/2018 3:28 PM
the switch exploit is pretty odd and it is looking like a possible way to get it to be sort of persistent is by intentionally flipping a byte to make the bootrom invalid
old acc! inactive 5/19/2018 3:36 PM
>3ds exploit involves exploiting a bug in the bootrom to load an exploit >switch exploit involves CORRUPTING the bootrom to load another bootrom
3:36 PM
whats next
3:36 PM
destroying the system
3:36 PM
to load a payload
3:36 PM
for the next gen of nintendo consoles
Revenant 5/19/2018 3:37 PM
literally hacking it with an axe
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:37 PM
>dsi exploit involves verifying too much of the system menu
3:38 PM
...sort of
old acc! inactive 5/19/2018 3:39 PM
>wii u exploit involves renaming a file to .zip and loading it in a VC game, giving full access to the system
3:39 PM
oops
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:39 PM
>wii u coldboot exploit involves making the system load a game in place of the system menuy
3:40 PM
>ique player exploit involves theres tons of things that noone could exploit cos encryption
cuba200611 5/19/2018 3:42 PM
>nes exploit involves a pair of pliers
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:42 PM
>wii exploit involved a pair of tweezers
z20kdc 5/19/2018 3:42 PM
>wii exploit involved lightly coughing near boot0
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:43 PM
>dreamcast exploit involved anti-piracy being a joke
3:43 PM
slash
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cds
old acc! inactive 5/19/2018 3:43 PM
>ds exploit >"lol what if we just put another game's banner in our flashcard" >"what the fuck it actually worked" (edited)
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:44 PM
>gamecube exploit >wait they dont check that? lol
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>installing an ique player exploit >ooh look a diag tool included in the download
cuba200611 5/19/2018 3:46 PM
>saturn exploit involves inserting a special card on a rarely-used slot
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:46 PM
listing exploits is kinda fun actually
3:47 PM
>exploit for nes >lets just pretend we're suing nintendo and get their code
goat 5/19/2018 3:47 PM
the boot exploit on the switch is bridging pin 10 of the right joycon to ground,which makes it boot to nvidia's recovery mode
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:47 PM
no its not
3:47 PM
the exploit is...
3:47 PM
something in rcm
3:47 PM
need to look it up
3:47 PM
recovery mode isnt an exploit
goat 5/19/2018 3:48 PM
... there is an exploit after that.
3:48 PM
rcm isn't supposed to be loading unsigned payloads
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:48 PM
indeed
3:48 PM
the exploit is in recovery mode
goat 5/19/2018 3:48 PM
yeah i was getting to it
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:48 PM
if the switch didnt have a recovery mode nintendo wouldnt be able to recover bricked consoles
3:48 PM
oh ok
3:48 PM
well i mean they could but whatever
GerbilSoft 5/19/2018 3:48 PM
it's a buffer overflow
goat 5/19/2018 3:48 PM
i am very sick (edited)
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:49 PM
>ps2 exploit >memory cards lul
GerbilSoft 5/19/2018 3:49 PM
gamecube didn't have any encryption due to various export laws at the time
goat 5/19/2018 3:49 PM
the last dev-related conversation i held had a 12 hour delay in the middle of it because i forgot what i was going to say
GerbilSoft 5/19/2018 3:49 PM
so it relied on the proprietary disc format
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:49 PM
ique player is similar
3:49 PM
once we can run code, everything has tons of flaws
goat 5/19/2018 3:49 PM
the dreamcast's was shrug
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:49 PM
until then, completely impenetrable
3:50 PM
>wii mini exploit >...oh
goat 5/19/2018 3:50 PM
my first run of sweet home was on a cd burnt and put into a dreamcast
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:51 PM
anyone noticed that im somewhat obsessed with ique yet?
goat 5/19/2018 3:51 PM
you've seen the android apk gamecube emulator thing for the chinese shield, right
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:52 PM
of course
3:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCep2NX__5SSYicsSrlCuFEg haz a channel
Chinese Nintendo
Uncovering the rarely known history of iQue and Nintendo in the greater Chinese region in general. If you're looking for the newest official stuff from Ninte...
goat 5/19/2018 3:54 PM
i hope it comes to anything
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:54 PM
https://youtu.be/chRH0RYgybs this trailer is somewhat ironic, cos the nes never released in china
3:54 PM
officially at least
3:56 PM
v probably on a bootleg system, there were only like 10000 ique players even MADE
goat 5/19/2018 3:57 PM
someone's first video game may have been in china on an imported dendy
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:57 PM
true
3:57 PM
the kid is using an nes controller
cuba200611 5/19/2018 3:57 PM
Or one of many domestic famiclones.
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:57 PM
so, does nintendo support importing games now?
cuba200611 5/19/2018 3:57 PM
Or a Neo Geo arcade machine with bootleg carts.
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 3:59 PM
i thought nintendo didnt like importing games...?
3:59 PM
except on the switch though lul
3:59 PM
and <dsi
3:59 PM
except the ique ds
eientei 5/19/2018 4:03 PM
@Jhynjhiruu PS2 was more like "Oh that? Fuck, forgot about that."
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:03 PM
yeah lol
eientei 5/19/2018 4:03 PM
exploit was the PS2 looking for DVD Player update on the memcard
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:03 PM
tries to think of super obscure consoles
eientei 5/19/2018 4:03 PM
Jaguar
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:04 PM
idk much about it
eientei 5/19/2018 4:04 PM
Sega CD: "What"
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:04 PM
non-americans: "whats a sega cd?"
eientei 5/19/2018 4:04 PM

- Mega CD

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Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:05 PM
>ps1 >cant we just swap the discs?
eientei 5/19/2018 4:06 PM
>PS3 >Fuck, they got the keys? Better throw more at it
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:07 PM
>ps4 >oh god fail0verflow, may as well not try >wait they never release anything, we're fine
4:07 PM
this has become less serious
eientei 5/19/2018 4:07 PM
>Xbox 360 >JTAG
MysticSageJosh 5/19/2018 4:07 PM
>let's patch that out
4:08 PM
>damn it they made rgh
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:08 PM
>og xbox >ooh look bios source code
4:08 PM
>xbox one >theres no point even trying, lets just put a developer mode in
eientei 5/19/2018 4:08 PM
>Xbox >Games have save file exploits? And we can easily mod USB in?
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:09 PM
>n2dsxl >ooh, a hardware revision, time to fix bugs >wait no that means spending money, lets just not do anything
MysticSageJosh 5/19/2018 4:09 PM
>ps2 >let's make our disc drive break when people try and hack it >god damn it they hacked it anyways (edited)
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:10 PM
>classic mini series >wait whats fel mode again?
4:11 PM
>switch >joyconhax? sounds fun, lets leave it in :D
4:12 PM
>psp >i KNEW we should have made it take AAs
MysticSageJosh 5/19/2018 4:13 PM
>wii >let's make our console use sd cards
4:13 PM
>you fools
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:13 PM
>switch >avoid a web browser at all costs >goddammit wifi
4:14 PM
>vita >vita will NEVER DIE while there are exploits! >...oh dear
cuba200611 5/19/2018 4:16 PM
>TG-CD
4:16 PM
>copy protection? Nah, we don't need it - besides, only rich people can buy CD burners (edited)
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:16 PM
>ique player >no seriously
4:17 PM
(bb player = ique player codename)
4:17 PM
(bbc = ique [player] card)
MysticSageJosh 5/19/2018 4:18 PM
>dreamcast >let's make our system use a certain type of disc >action replay >howboutno.jpg
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 4:19 PM
somewhat unrelated, but
4:19 PM
>ique gba sp >lets just include a fully translated mario comic on the software cd
4:21 PM
http://www.ique.com/products/img/player/UOS.swf this is on ique's ique@home page (edited)
4:25 PM
hmm, 12fps
4:25 PM
i wonder what it looks like at 60?
4:25 PM
hehe
4:27 PM
https://gyazo.com/42f55f0413e290fbe04d1cc90c7547fb
🐮 5/19/2018 4:59 PM
Speaking of PS2 forgotten
4:59 PM
5:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCysbldEisQ
IGN
Nobunaga's Ambition Online PlayStation 2
5:02 PM
The PS2 version was online until late 2014
5:03 PM
Damn...that just reminded me of FFXI's servers shutting down a little over 2 years ago
5:03 PM
The PS2 ones, I mean
divingkxt 5/19/2018 5:03 PM
And only because Sony said so.
🐮 5/19/2018 5:03 PM
Really?
leilei 5/19/2018 5:03 PM
it's not called everquest
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:04 PM
servers shutting down somewhere around two years ago ish...
5:04 PM
that reminds me of something
5:04 PM
ah yes
5:04 PM
ique!
🐮 5/19/2018 5:04 PM
elaborate
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:04 PM
end of 2016
goat 5/19/2018 5:04 PM
the ps2 and gamecube sharea weird quirk in that for a while the piracy device of choice was an external broadband adapter
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:05 PM
purchasing servers
goat 5/19/2018 5:05 PM
that's extra weird because each one had like one real game to actually use it with
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:05 PM
its like how brain trainage is the most popular game on the wii u vc, or something like that
5:05 PM
eshop?
5:06 PM
most popular sometimes?
5:06 PM
id
5:06 PM
k
goat 5/19/2018 5:06 PM
yeah but this is a weirdass physical external they mass produced for little reason
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:06 PM
true
5:07 PM
that n64 game with modem built in tho
goat 5/19/2018 5:07 PM
sorry, in the case of the gamecube it's 8 games
🐮 5/19/2018 5:07 PM
Only three games had actual Online functionality
goat 5/19/2018 5:07 PM
three of those are phantasy star online ep 1/2/3
🐮 5/19/2018 5:07 PM
The rest was LAN
5:07 PM
That is correct
5:07 PM
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE 2 EPSIODE I & II PHANTASY STAR ONLINE 2 EPISODE III and HOMELAND
5:07 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland_(video_game)
Homeland (video game)
Homeland (Japanese: ホームランド, Hepburn: hōmurando) is a role-playing video game for the Nintendo GameCube developed and published by Chunsoft, and was released in Japan on April 29, 2005. The game can be played offline in single-player ...
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:08 PM
ive actually heard of homeland
goat 5/19/2018 5:08 PM
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:08 PM
i think it was when someone else was talking about the gamecube broadband adapter
5:08 PM
heh
🐮 5/19/2018 5:08 PM
DLC for a GameCube game wew
5:08 PM
Though PSO had downloadable quests and the such, so
goat 5/19/2018 5:09 PM
and god BLESS the best adapter
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:09 PM
do bsx games count as dlc?
goat 5/19/2018 5:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/2cwbhk8.jpg?1
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:10 PM
anyone else secretly wanted to get one of those, but has never played phantasy star?
goat 5/19/2018 5:10 PM
a tale of keyboards, eternally retold: https://www.amazon.co.jp/CYBER-USB%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89-SWITCH-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF-%E3%83%89%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0/dp/B073S8FYQJ/ref=sr_1_19?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1526764228&sr=1-19
Amazon | CYBER ・ USBキーボード ( SWITCH 用) ブラック ...
CYBER ・ USBキーボード ( SWITCH 用) ブラック 【 Joy-Con ドッキング 可能】が周辺機器・アクセサリストアでいつでもお買い得。当日お急ぎ便対象商品は、当日お届け可能です。オンライン...
5:11 PM
that's thirty bucks
🐮 5/19/2018 5:15 PM
I actually own that keyboard
5:15 PM
The ASCII one
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:15 PM
theres also a sami one iirc
5:15 PM
sami?
5:15 PM
something like that
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/19/2018 5:16 PM
funny you bring this controller up
5:16 PM
https://www.play-asia.com/cyber-usb-keyboard-for-nintendo-switch/13/70bhkj?ref=froogle_us&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlv_XBRDrARIsAH-iRJQKyMeRUOP98vM24c-UMjXIyJZpMSV1gUTMRQddFiIqNth6Gqj4MNUaAhn0EALw_wcB
5:16 PM
5:16 PM
a keyboard was just developed for switch
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:16 PM
i think i saw that
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/19/2018 5:16 PM
releasing May 31, 2018
🐮 5/19/2018 5:18 PM
Is this the same keyboard that was announced months ago
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/19/2018 5:19 PM
maybe
🐮 5/19/2018 5:19 PM
It is!
5:19 PM
CyberGadget were the first ones to release one
5:20 PM
Aaand now I'm confused.
5:20 PM
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/7/11/15951650/nintendo-switch-keyboard-that-doesnt-suck
Someone actually made the Nintendo Switch keyboard I asked for
Last month I got upset at Hori for making a useless Nintendo Switch keyboard. It looked like this: But I thought it should look...
5:20 PM
Was....was the keyboard delayed?
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/19/2018 5:21 PM
maybe
divingkxt 5/19/2018 5:26 PM
Who's gonna use a Switch for word processing?
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:26 PM
just watch, someone will
🐮 5/19/2018 5:27 PM
Well, I mean, the Switch does have two MMOs so far with three or four more to come
5:27 PM
DRAGON QUEST X ONLINE and PHANTASY STAR ONLINE 2 CLOUD
5:28 PM
Onigiri, Avabel Online and Elemental Knights Online are also coming to Switch
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:28 PM
that code studio game thing would work well with it
🐮 5/19/2018 5:28 PM
With Elemental Knights Online even being in English according to the developers
Deleted User 5/19/2018 5:28 PM
mario teaches typing for the switch pls .
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/19/2018 5:28 PM
whos gonna be the first person to make microsoft office on the switch?
🐮 5/19/2018 5:28 PM
Avabel Online and Elemental Knights Online are originally mobile titles but Onigiri is a PC/PS4 title
Jhynjhiruu 5/19/2018 5:28 PM
i thought someone got windows running on
5:28 PM
it
5:29 PM
or maybe not
5:29 PM
cant remember
5:29 PM
office would run on it then
Deleted User 5/19/2018 5:29 PM
i want mario teaches typing for the switch , l m f a o . (edited)
🐮 5/19/2018 5:29 PM
Onigiri has a PS Vita version in Japan but it's just a streamed version
5:29 PM
http://nichegamer.com/2017/09/24/smartphone-mmorpg-avabel-online-heading-to-pc-ps4-and-switch/
Brandon Orselli
Smartphone MMORPG Avabel Online Heading to PC, PS4, and Switch - N...
Asobimo has announced they’re bringing their smartphone MMORPG Avabel Online to PC, PlayStation 4, and the Nintendo Switch. The news was confirmed at this year’s Tokyo Game Show. Featured above, you can view a new trailer for the game’s...
5:29 PM
Oh, right, Avabel is even heading to PS4
Deleted User 5/19/2018 5:30 PM
wat .
🐮 5/19/2018 5:30 PM
This is such a weird, large, disproportionate jump from one platform to the other
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/19/2018 5:30 PM
diversify your game
5:30 PM
🐮 5/19/2018 5:32 PM
I tried Avabel Online on January 17, 2016 but I did not think of it
5:33 PM
Worth noting is that all three of those MMOs have a rather poor English translation
5:33 PM
Not localization just translation
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/19/2018 5:33 PM
engrish you say?
🐮 5/19/2018 5:35 PM
Basically yeah
5:35 PM
I'll try to have some pictures up soon
goat 5/19/2018 5:36 PM
y'all that amazon.co.jp link was the keyboard both of you responded with
TheMonkeyBob 5/19/2018 5:37 PM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174060355646/warioware-inc-midi-data-201-300
🐮 5/19/2018 5:37 PM
5:38 PM
5:39 PM
5:39 PM
This one is Elemental Knights Online by the way
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/19/2018 5:48 PM
me talking to other people irl
🐮 5/19/2018 5:55 PM
do LLLaaaPPP?
Feta Cheese 5/19/2018 7:04 PM
Hey my epics
7:04 PM
I want an account and I got told to talk to the admins here
Neko May 5/19/2018 7:22 PM
#account-requests
divingkxt 5/19/2018 7:25 PM
So...uh...turns out Greendog is a licensed game.
7:26 PM
That's why there's difficulty in getting re-releases out for it sometimes.
7:26 PM
And by sometimes, I mean it didn't even get a Virtual Console release.
7:27 PM
It's based on a board game named Surf Trip, made by an actual surfer.
Deleted User 5/19/2018 8:43 PM
oof
divingkxt 5/19/2018 8:51 PM
There were plans for an NES game that fell through the cracks.
8:51 PM
Probably not even developed.
Deleted User 5/19/2018 9:10 PM
oof .
9:10 PM
where did u find that out ? ? .
🐮 5/19/2018 9:44 PM
That's...wild.
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:21 PM
how much truth is there behind the rumor that xenosaga's sex scene had more explicit sprite art drawn for it and buried within the files?
10:21 PM
it wouldn't be the first time sony cut some stuff
MusashiAA 5/19/2018 10:21 PM
I doubt it
10:22 PM
But those characters do have nude sprites
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:22 PM
one longplay writer basically said "google those" as if it was common knowledge
10:22 PM
but google algorithms change all the time
MusashiAA 5/19/2018 10:23 PM
Must've been a misinformed opinion
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:23 PM
might be still worth it to dig into the vram during that scene just before the animated cutscene
goat 5/19/2018 10:24 PM
the absolute best thing about xenosaga region differences is that the US censored version of albedo's decapitation is one thousand times more horrifying
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:24 PM
the squaresoft one or the namco published ones?
goat 5/19/2018 10:25 PM
xenosaga: episode 1
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:25 PM
afaik the former was hardly cut
10:25 PM
so namco.
goat 5/19/2018 10:25 PM
yeah
10:25 PM
are you thinking xenogears
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:25 PM
my bad, must be sleep deprivation
MusashiAA 5/19/2018 10:25 PM
Yeah, must be Xenogears
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:25 PM
that was infamous
MusashiAA 5/19/2018 10:25 PM
It's what I had in mind
goat 5/19/2018 10:26 PM
anyway, in the japanese xenosaga, albedo uses a bigass knife to cut his head off, and the camera angles are not carefully calculated to make that as bad as possible
10:26 PM
in the us version they took his knife away and made the angles like. precisely the worst
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:26 PM
the one when he tears his head off with his bare hands?
10:27 PM
I remember that.
10:27 PM
not that the jp versions are totally uncut either
10:27 PM
there's that characteristic black goo of violent-but-still-not-late-time shows
10:27 PM
covering any wounds
10:28 PM
there's that sony published ps1 jrpg (legend of lagoon , or something)
10:29 PM
(or was it dragoon)
10:29 PM
with a certain Rosa
goat 5/19/2018 10:29 PM
honestly just taking the knife away alone is making the scene way freakier
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:29 PM
she was supposed to cut her wrists and use the blood to summon a dark portal
10:30 PM
(demon gate was the move name iirc)
goat 5/19/2018 10:30 PM
legend of dragoon owned and was the absolute pinnacle of bad translations
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:30 PM
sony japan cut the self harm part and had just the dropping blood as she's floating in midair in pair with her legs spread open
10:31 PM
(the reason the self harm part is known at all is
leilei 5/19/2018 10:31 PM
sounds like a case of removing imitable violence
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:31 PM
magazine screenshoots and incomplete data)
goat 5/19/2018 10:31 PM
https://lparchive.org/The-Legend-of-Dragoon/Update%2021/58-valley-151.jpg this is possibly the most legendary screwed up translation i know of
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:31 PM
and us version saw blood and said.. better make it black
goat 5/19/2018 10:31 PM
i would say it's worse than I FEEL ASLEEP
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:32 PM
so it came to be known as the period attack
goat 5/19/2018 10:32 PM
the original line is supposed to be like, the cliched "save your strength, it'll be okay" kinda thing
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:33 PM
is this one of those try hard localizations when the translator thinks he's more witty than he is?
goat 5/19/2018 10:33 PM
No. This is one of those translations where it is questionable that anyone in the process is a native speaker of either language, or that the budget was more than a half-stamped Subway Club Card
10:34 PM
It is to the English language what David Lynch is to set design.
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:34 PM
not a native speaker of japanese at any rate
10:34 PM
that's a major screwup
10:34 PM
even literal translations don't do this
10:34 PM
i wonder what happened
goat 5/19/2018 10:34 PM
you will not even make it through the tutorial without noticing major stilted weird lines
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:34 PM
with this one
10:35 PM
wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibilities for them to have babelfished it
goat 5/19/2018 10:35 PM
ah, like tales of phantasia's holy blade Kangaroo
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:35 PM
with whatever proto-babelfish tech they had.
goat 5/19/2018 10:35 PM
oh wait that was Word.. 2003
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:36 PM
Kangoroo was clippy's doing.
goat 5/19/2018 10:36 PM
You look like you're trying to overthrow the despotic reign of Dhaos! Do you need help?
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:36 PM
the voice acting isn't excusable though
goat 5/19/2018 10:37 PM
god nobody who heard a voice acted legend of dragoon would have lived
DarthDubඞ 5/19/2018 10:37 PM
spinning cane
goat 5/19/2018 10:37 PM
that era was also the peak of bad voice acting and if the two had met it'd have been four disks that could make a human collapse into a cringe black hole
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:38 PM
i think IGA said one time about SOTN
10:38 PM
he found Berglade's original take for the "shimatta" line when Death confiscates his weapons
10:38 PM
too awful
10:39 PM
and replaced it with a "What?" from elsewhere in the game.
10:40 PM
woops
10:40 PM
for some reason my line kept getting deleted
10:40 PM
it was originally
10:40 PM
"NoooooOOO !!!!!"
10:41 PM
might explain why there's a complete voiced game in the files made inaccessible in the us version.
10:41 PM
(for the most part)
leilei 5/19/2018 10:42 PM
the mod bot here will eat your chats with repeating letters (edited)
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:42 PM
I like how capcom just gave up and put megaman x6 in japanese
leilei 5/19/2018 10:42 PM
keep that in mind
10:42 PM
don't quote crono etc
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 10:43 PM
ah, alright
10:43 PM
megaman 8 was allegedly random foreign tourists in japan rounded up for an impromptu voice acting session
10:45 PM
sometimes the dubs are so bad capcpom cuts them from european versions and pretend never existed.
10:46 PM
and then there's this (trigger warning: ear torture) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTsvWTtoiQ
metapod
Mega Man X7 - Flame Hyenard (No Damage, Axl Bullet Only)
goat 5/19/2018 10:47 PM
I'M GRENADE MAN
10:47 PM
HURTS SO GOOD.
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:19 PM
speaking of sony censorship, weren't they also against anything promoting drugs?
11:22 PM
or japan's stance on anything drug/alcohol related for children
11:22 PM
because there's this
11:23 PM
11:23 PM
it's a minor detail, but it's about the marijuana leaf there
divingkxt 5/19/2018 11:24 PM
@MLagaffe Most Asian companies are.
11:24 PM
Sony and Nintendo are no exceptions.
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:24 PM
interesting this slipped by somehow
divingkxt 5/19/2018 11:25 PM
Probably because it's so low-res.
11:25 PM
Looks like an asterisk to the untrained eye,
11:25 PM
so it can fly by the casual onlooker.
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:26 PM
I only noticed it because it only was a thing in the original manga (not the covers, the translations or the reprints)
11:26 PM
and even then only alluded to
11:26 PM
(the whole drug consumption thing)
11:26 PM
this game on the other side is CERO A iirc
11:27 PM
but then again even mother 3 is
divingkxt 5/19/2018 11:28 PM
Then again, Shaman King also had Ren and Stimpy knock-offs.
11:28 PM
Which were changed in the anime for obvious copyright concerns.
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:29 PM
the anime was sanitized in ways that match whatever Viz Media changed
11:29 PM
(the black guy's backstory, anything about genitals, underage sex, underage drugs...)
11:29 PM
this game was somehow based on the anime
divingkxt 5/19/2018 11:30 PM
Heck, they even have silver rubber nipples on the ends of their tales.
11:30 PM
(Rubber Nipple Salesman, anyone?)
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:30 PM
(unlike the NA GBA games. those were weird. They were commissioned by 4Kids, the owners of the US anime license, but are technically based on the manga)
leilei 5/19/2018 11:34 PM
no one wants to be nec
11:35 PM
even some tie-in games for some very-much-not-hentai animes get cuts in japan (edited)
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:36 PM
that's so unlike 4kids
11:36 PM
11:36 PM
they didn't even bother to change ponchi and konchi's gba game appearances to be copyright friendly
11:37 PM
they're just the way they were in the manga
11:38 PM
just with some neat colorwork
divingkxt 5/19/2018 11:38 PM
Remember that one time 4Kids released uncut versions of Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King?
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:38 PM
(it's truly admirable how far they went just to not pay xebec)
divingkxt 5/19/2018 11:39 PM
And next to no one noticed because they were printed in such limited quantities?
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:39 PM
(which is understandable. the artstyle is ugly as a sin)
divingkxt 5/19/2018 11:39 PM
And only in limited locations?
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:39 PM
there's one more uncut yugioh dub
11:40 PM
but it was part of the 2011 litigation when konami/toei were fed up with 4kids
11:40 PM
and they went and made their own dub
11:40 PM
but it never released because courts ruled the existing license (4kids') was still valid
11:42 PM
it was one of those experimental dubs where japanese animators would collaborate with the licensees for reanimating lip synch and stuff like that.
11:42 PM
disney's doraemon version for example.
11:45 PM
probably offtopic though
divingkxt 5/19/2018 11:48 PM
Disney's Doraemon isn't a half-bad dub from what I've seen.
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:49 PM
about the nec thing, every struggling console maker went there.
11:49 PM
and i mean it by everyone.
11:50 PM
how about a list to illustrate my point
DarthDubඞ 5/19/2018 11:51 PM
i'm sad that there's not gonna be a 3rd season
11:52 PM
disney doesn't know how to handle anime licenses very well
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:54 PM
• Sega: various elf console ports uncensored from snes/ps1 (Variable Geo), outright porn games with stills and naughty bits slightly offscreen but all the audio action intact (Steam Hearts), YU-NO, couple of strip jankenpon games... all mostly on saturn between 1995-1997 • Nintendo: Vivid Dolls (N64 arcade, strip) • NEC: Sega approach for PC Engine, full on explicit for PC-FX • Sony: softcore porn on Vita/late gen PS3
11:55 PM
It's all for when the consoles are struggling however. Otherwise it's the complete opposite attitude.
11:56 PM
only thing that breaks this pattern is nintendo asking pervy game developers to include their console for 3DS and Switch themselves.
11:57 PM
even though they are successful, but maybe that's realpolitiks.
leilei 5/19/2018 11:59 PM
and then there's NEC's computer line which should go without saying
MLagaffe 5/19/2018 11:59 PM
computers are unregulated and something seen for adults, that goes without saying
12:00 AM
but consoles are the "kids" platforms in the public eye
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/20/2018 12:00 AM
That "N64 arcade" thing is a bootleg, i think.
MLagaffe 5/20/2018 12:00 AM
the aleck64 was officially licensed by nintendo.
12:00 AM
it even has a separate value in the rom header.
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/20/2018 12:01 AM
Oh
divingkxt 5/20/2018 12:02 AM
@MLagaffe That game was made by Visco.
12:02 AM
Still...
MLagaffe 5/20/2018 12:02 AM
oh sure, i meant from the PoV of publishers *(console makers) rejecting / opening the floodgates for approving cert of porn (edited)
12:03 AM
oh i almost forgot the best one
12:03 AM
PSP UMDs.
12:03 AM
It's technically a media format, but the discs are pressed by Sony..
12:04 AM
and they sure didn't have much reservations about the kind of content they had, even when it almost crossed actual laws, let alone their cert rules.
12:05 AM
if we're talking game publishers desperate enough to put out porn
12:05 AM
there's no shortage of examples
12:06 AM
enix and squaresoft early stuff was really wild
12:07 AM
same goes for koei
12:07 AM
all of it was pre-NES, so it's relatively obscure
12:09 AM
konami didn't do it as much, but they're making up for it with castlevania pachinkos with high impact erotic violence
divingkxt 5/20/2018 1:26 AM
http://www.verycomputer.com/44_d8c5e0009224e9ce_1.htm
1:27 AM
Not me.
1:28 AM
Better off searching inside random PS1, DC, and PC games from 1997-2001.
leilei 5/20/2018 1:29 AM
i'm sensing 'just learned about nesticle'
divingkxt 5/20/2018 1:29 AM
?
1:30 AM
I know what Nesticle is.
1:30 AM
I never used it, but yeah, old DOS emus aren't my cup of tea.
leilei 5/20/2018 1:30 AM
also ethan petty's still around so he would probably still give a shit
1:31 AM
so
Neko May 5/20/2018 1:31 AM
Ah, Nesticle. The old gold standard.
leilei 5/20/2018 1:31 AM
also years? try decades
Neko May 5/20/2018 1:31 AM
Now a very moldy oldy (edited)
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 1:31 AM
i remember using that
1:31 AM
man that was forever ago
leilei 5/20/2018 1:32 AM
just because something is old doesn't justify wanting a forbidden leak
Neko May 5/20/2018 1:32 AM
1997 was the last release?
1:32 AM
It's at least 20 years old.
divingkxt 5/20/2018 1:32 AM
August 1998.
1:32 AM
Is when x.xx was released.
Neko May 5/20/2018 1:32 AM
Okay, so damn close to 20.
divingkxt 5/20/2018 1:32 AM
So yeah, almost 20 years since its last update.
1:33 AM
Coincidentally, also the iMac's 20 anniversary.
leilei 5/20/2018 1:33 AM
and the leaks caused all his emu dev projects to cease
1:33 AM
and you want the source of his misery
1:33 AM
uh no
1:34 AM
fce was already underway at the time (edited)
Neko May 5/20/2018 1:34 AM
On one paw, what leilei said
1:34 AM
On the other, it's kinda historic now
1:35 AM
Nesticle was a piece of shit, though
1:35 AM
Actually, it wasn't
1:36 AM
It was always a terrible emulator, we just didn't know any better at the time.
1:36 AM
It had a LOT of hacks and was ridiculously inaccurate
1:37 AM
Even it's CPU core would be considered unusable by today's standards.
1:38 AM
No, I mean the code had sloppy hacks to support certain games
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 1:38 AM
sounds like zsnes
Neko May 5/20/2018 1:38 AM
Yeah, about that much, actually
1:39 AM
Another poorly coded, inaccurate-as-hell emulator
1:40 AM
They were both popular because they were fast, not because they were good.
divingkxt 5/20/2018 1:41 AM
Much like ZSNES, UltraHLE, Bleem, and many more.
leilei 5/20/2018 1:43 AM
even if you did 'archive' the source, no self-respecting competent programmer with an understanding of x86 assembly will ever want to get involved with any part of it
1:44 AM
nesticle's lasting legacy lies in the user experience. that is all (edited)
1:44 AM
(that, and a bunch of shitty edgelord mario hacks that nesticle enabled easy editing for) (edited)
Neko May 5/20/2018 1:45 AM
Considering it's never coming back and the author is gone for good, I don't see why the source should remain some closely guarded secret. It's over, no continues, no more coins. Let it go.
1:46 AM
@divingkxt: ZSNES was the one that was mentioned. Supposedly it's still alive?
1:47 AM
I don't know if Sardu is dead, but he hasn't been heard from since
1:47 AM
He left the scene for good and has stayed true to his word
1:48 AM
Ah.
leilei 5/20/2018 1:48 AM
https://twitter.com/EthanJamesPetty
Ethan James Petty (@EthanJamesPetty)
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Neko May 5/20/2018 1:49 AM
If that's him, maybe we could just ask him to release what's left of it himself.
1:50 AM
I mean, it IS a ridiculously significant part of emulation history, for better or for worse.
1:50 AM
Maybe convince him to put it up on GitHub
1:50 AM
Just for the hell of it
1:52 AM
Nothing to lose, really.
1:53 AM
Maybe he could release the source for the 20th anniversary of vX.XX
1:54 AM
It would
leilei 5/20/2018 1:58 AM
only when nesticle (or callus or genetalsgenecyst) is officially uploaded by the petty guy would get people to dare touch it
1:59 AM
like say the typical C-ifying SDL port dos games used to get
2:00 AM
or maybe a massive automatic asm-conversion libretro core for supporting historical hilarity on multiple platforms
2:00 AM
or maybe maybe taking its infamous gui in as a retroarch menu driver
2:01 AM
maybe that would be considered more usable for some people
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:01 AM
Ugh, RetroArch
2:01 AM
You know those vultures would steal it in a heartbeat
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:04 AM
hi
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:05 AM
If there's one thing RA loves it's decade+ old emulator cores
2:05 AM
Morning, @punk7890
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:05 AM
morning
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:06 AM
Find any debug menus in your sleep again? :3
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:07 AM
yes, I woke to debug
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:07 AM
Heehee
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:07 AM
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2:08 AM
I'd reckon nobody knows of this game
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:08 AM
Can't say I do
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 2:09 AM
is that britney spears?
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:09 AM
correct
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:09 AM
I thought so
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 2:09 AM
i'm gonna guess it's ps2
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:09 AM
correct x2
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:10 AM
I thought her career had nosedived by the PS2
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:11 AM
it's an earlier ps2 game, from 2002
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 2:11 AM
iwonderifanyoneremembersherpornpictures
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:11 AM
Ah
leilei 5/20/2018 2:11 AM
britney's dance beat
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:11 AM
I remember her shaving her head
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:11 AM
correct x3
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 2:11 AM
owo what's this
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:11 AM
all corrects are taken at this point
leilei 5/20/2018 2:12 AM
does the nsync gbc game have debug
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:12 AM
No more vowels
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 2:12 AM
how do you find these
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:12 AM
@leilei is it a Metro Graphics developed game? (edited)
2:13 AM
if it is, it probably does
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:13 AM
Mmmm. Debug.
punk7890 5/20/2018 2:13 AM
I think this Britney game is the last ps2 game they did
2:14 AM
all three of their games that I know of had this debug menu
2:14 AM
Dance Summit 2001's was a bit different
leilei 5/20/2018 2:17 AM
i wish there were more musician games. a nickelback game would be a fun collectathon (edited)
Neko May 5/20/2018 2:18 AM
gags
2:19 AM
"Find all of Nickelback's lost nickles so the show can start! You've got 5 minutes, get those nickles back!"
2:21 AM
I think a good game featuring Nickelback would be one where you have to sabotage their concert tour.
2:21 AM
If they make it to the stage and successfully play their set, you lose.
2:21 AM
X3
z20kdc 5/20/2018 4:16 AM
...are flamethrowers an allowed part? Because if so the game would be ridiculously easy.
leilei 5/20/2018 4:17 AM
that shit makes me batshit crazy
cuba200611 5/20/2018 4:17 AM
Flamethrowers - you know what they say about them. (edited)
leilei 5/20/2018 4:17 AM
thursday's theme was wands and flamethrowers and wand flamethrowers
eientei 5/20/2018 5:32 AM
JP version of Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure has `00_readme.txt`: `# -*- Mode: text; tab-width: 2; c-basic-offset: 2; coding: utf-8-unix; -*- # @version $Id: 00_readme.txt 313 2010-10-21 08:44:32Z miyoshi-masayuki@xeen.co.jp $ # @revision $Revision: 8 $ # @author $Author: miyoshi-masayuki@xeen.co.jp $ # @date $Date: 2010-09-04 16:57:36 +0900 (土, 04 9 2010) $ ロムデータをいれておきます 最終的にどの様にデータにアクセスするかは、redmineを参照ください 2d 　２Dデータ入っています fonts フォントを入れる予定 rhythm 　リズムゲーム用データを入れる shaders 　シェーダを入れておきます。 sound 　サウンドデータをいれておきます。 sample 　確実にこれは開発時しか参照できません。 　サンプルデータを入れておきます 　作業が終ったものは消去してください。 　debug/sys用データはsample/sysにいれてください adventure 　アドベンチャーパート用のスクリプトデータが入っています。`
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/20/2018 5:53 AM
good gaem
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/20/2018 6:01 AM
`# -*- Mode: text; tab-width: 2; c-basic-offset: 2; coding: utf-8-unix; -*- # @version $Id: 00_readme.txt 313 2010-10-21 08:44:32Z miyoshi-masayuki@xeen.co.jp $ # @revision $Revision: 8 $ # @author $Author: miyoshi-masayuki@xeen.co.jp $ # @date $Date: 2010-09-04 16:57:36 +0900 (土, 04 9 2010) $ ロムデータをいれておきます I'll put ROM data in this. 最終的にどの様にデータにアクセスするかは、redmineを参照ください cf. "redmine" for how to access to data at final. 2d 　２Dデータ入っています containing 2D data. fonts フォントを入れる予定 will add fonts. rhythm 　リズムゲーム用データを入れる put rhythm game data. shaders 　シェーダを入れておきます。 for shaders. sound 　サウンドデータをいれておきます。 for sound datas. sample 　確実にこれは開発時しか参照できません。 　サンプルデータを入れておきます 　作業が終ったものは消去してください。 　debug/sys用データはsample/sysにいれてください certainly this will be only read on development. I'll put sample data. delete if done working on data. debug/sys data will be on sample/sys adventure 　アドベンチャーパート用のスクリプトデータが入っています。 containing scripts for adventure part`
6:02 AM
@eientei ^
6:02 AM
rough but should be easier to understand
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/20/2018 6:02 AM
googel translate
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/20/2018 6:02 AM
not used tho
6:03 AM
I'm just generally sucked at JP->ENG
6:03 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT SINCE I am native to Japanese
6:03 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/20/2018 6:03 AM
it joke
punk7890 5/20/2018 6:18 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/998145429626744832
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a decent sized debug menu / mode in Kuon no Kizuna: Sairinsho (PS2) https://t.co/sYYyWJyXeu This basically puts the game into developer mode, which grants access to debug information on screen and a debug menu. It contains sound tests, s...
6:18 AM
eientei 5/20/2018 6:53 AM
https://tedium.co/2018/05/17/nintendo-nes-chiptune-music-scene/
Nintendo Music Scene: Chiptune and Game-Rock Heavyweights
How music from the 8-bit video game era has inspired an entire generation of modern musicians and created new musical genres.
Oddbrother 5/20/2018 7:33 AM
"Game-rock?"
MusashiAA 5/20/2018 8:10 AM
Game rock?
8:11 AM
Its just different takes on prog rock, with heavy influences of jazz fusion and plenty of classical age genres
8:13 AM
I think...I feel there's too many musical influences to neither point it all into a couple of genres, nor to single it all into one umbrella genre
8:13 AM
VGM is definitely not its own genre
Jupp3 5/20/2018 10:26 AM
Hi, was just looking at https://tcrf.net/1942_(Commodore_64) - there are (at least) 2 versions of the game, with completely different musics
1942 (Commodore 64)
10:26 AM
Not quite sure if they're the same versions presented there
10:29 AM
Or more specifically, the intro & ingame music is different, not sure if there are slight differences in the others. Both are in HVSC (the second one submitted by me long ago)
FMecha 5/20/2018 11:38 AM
https://tcrf.net/The_Pro_Wrestling_2 new page
The Pro Wrestling 2
DevEd 5/20/2018 12:39 PM
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=18592
Jul -- The Cutting Room Floor: Unblock me
Please unblock here - https://tcrf.net/Special:Unblock/Edwardthe
Jhynjhiruu 5/20/2018 12:57 PM
a shop near me is selling their ps4 demo pod
Chunky 5/20/2018 1:10 PM
I was checking Puggsy's junior levels in the EU and US versions, (because the page for the genesis version mentioned that item layouts for certain junior levels changed between regions) and I noticed that the exit gate in Lighthouse 2 was purple in the EU version, but yellow in the US version. (edited)
1:10 PM
Lighthouse 2 exit gate in the EU version
1:11 PM
Lighthouse 2 exit gate in the US version
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/20/2018 1:11 PM
r/hmmm
Chunky 5/20/2018 1:12 PM
I haven't checked the full game to see if the changes apply there as well, so for all I know these could just be specific to junior mode.
1:13 PM
That said, if they're different in the full game would it be worth checking the other levels to see if any other palettes were changed between the US and EU versions? (edited)
Revenant 5/20/2018 3:35 PM
https://twitter.com/solskogenparty/status/998167246231998464?s=19
Solskogen Demoparty (@solskogenparty)
How serious are we about oldschool gear? Very, very serious. Read about our new A/V chain for treating oldschool computers right at #solskogen 2018: https://t.co/G5gfGWYlmL
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/20/2018 3:49 PM
that looks so good
caff!!! 5/20/2018 3:58 PM
nice
TheMonkeyBob 5/20/2018 5:43 PM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174092651066/warioware-inc-midi-data-301-400
meeper 5/20/2018 5:52 PM
what are some n64 debug menus that can be accessed without GS?
5:52 PM
i remember reading one in particular and it bugged me because i could never remember it
divingkxt 5/20/2018 5:53 PM
Chopper Attack is one.
meeper 5/20/2018 5:53 PM
think it was one of those "enter a specific code at the title screen", you know, the like that would make kotaku articles like "this code was hidden in the games code and only found after 11 years!!!"
divingkxt 5/20/2018 5:53 PM
Though the whole thing isn't accessible without cheat devices. (edited)
5:54 PM
That's about it.
meeper 5/20/2018 5:54 PM
oh wait, didn't shadows of the empire have one?
divingkxt 5/20/2018 5:54 PM
Yes, it did.
5:54 PM
Oh yeah, and Episode I Racer.
meeper 5/20/2018 5:55 PM
Mario Party as well!
5:55 PM
I think Mario Party may have been the one I read
5:55 PM
though mario party's was like
5:55 PM
just let you view board turns and stuff
divingkxt 5/20/2018 5:57 PM
I vaguely recall accessing it as a kid by accident.
5:57 PM
But not knowing what the heck it was.
meeper 5/20/2018 6:03 PM
haha cheeky devs, they made the activation code the Konami code
6:03 PM
anyways just tried it on my cart, can confirm, works
6:03 PM
pretty neat
The Dinkster 5/20/2018 6:04 PM
btw, i dont know if anyones seen this, but sonic mania had its encore mode leaked, do we document it when it releases officialy, or do we do it now under glitches/unused stuff? https://youtu.be/cJCppSdVGXo?t=2m10s
Wimpyfox
All Sonic Mania Plus Encore Zones (Leak)
punk7890 5/20/2018 6:04 PM
those are probably the only N64 debug menus that can be accessed without gs codes on N64
6:04 PM
that I know of at least
6:05 PM
there's a couple on PS2
GerbilSoft 5/20/2018 6:07 PM
encore mode wouldn't be documented on tcrf
6:07 PM
unless there's some unused stuff discovered after the final release (edited)
Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:10 PM
https://tcrf.net/Asteroids_Hyper_64
Asteroids Hyper 64
leilei 5/20/2018 6:12 PM
kind of curious what's in the original pc version
The Dinkster 5/20/2018 6:14 PM
oh ok
Borman 5/20/2018 6:29 PM
I should see if the debug mode loads in the prototype versions I have
6:30 PM
Actually I think that was just in the pause menu in the prototype
Nukley 5/20/2018 8:09 PM
I recommend setting the default channel for the invite link on the site to #rules
8:12 PM
Also, i would consider the dev bios to be prototype. So, does anybody have the actual non modded dev bios? The only ones i could find were the reigon free ones, that are basically just the normal bios with the dev kit bootup.
divingkxt 5/20/2018 8:13 PM
Uh... You do realize that just because the dev bios has no region lock doesn't mean it's modded, right?
8:13 PM
Also, what dev bios are you talking about?
Δndrew P. 5/20/2018 8:20 PM
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🐮 5/20/2018 9:22 PM
https://twitter.com/LotsaNintendo/status/998322734546477058?s=20
blank heartache (@LotsaNintendo)
This message exists within #SpelunkerWorld, even though the Vita ver. was not released in America/English. #PS4share
TheMonkeyBob 5/20/2018 9:38 PM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174098810961/warioware-inc-midi-data-401-500
快乐爱的小精灵 (Down for Loc) 5/20/2018 9:51 PM
(Yuu Yuu Hakusho) Looks like this music is unused in the game
9:52 PM
(This tune is used in Sonic 1 Hack, Metal Sonic Hyperdrive, which is in Eggtropolis Zone)
Neko May 5/20/2018 10:04 PM
Hacks don't qualify for TCRF
快乐爱的小精灵 (Down for Loc) 5/20/2018 10:05 PM
I mean that music. Heard nowhere......
Neko May 5/20/2018 10:11 PM
It's unused in the original game?
快乐爱的小精灵 (Down for Loc) 5/20/2018 10:15 PM
I think yes
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 10:28 PM
well this is odd
10:28 PM
i found dead or alive 1 on dead or alive 2's disc for dead or alive ultimate
10:29 PM
xbox
🐮 5/20/2018 10:30 PM
Dead or Alive Ultimate is a compilation fighting game developed by Team Ninja and released by Tecmo for the Xbox in 2004. It is a collection of the two previous games in the series, 1996's Dead or Alive and 1999's Dead or Alive 2.
10:31 PM
Did they not come on one disc?
10:31 PM
That's...strange.
10:31 PM
I had no idea! Another thing learned.
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 10:31 PM
it's a 2 disc collection
10:32 PM
dead or alive 1 on disc 1 and dead or alive 2 ultimate on disc 2
10:32 PM
i used aurora's file explorer on the xbox 360 to load dead or alive 1 on the 2nd disc
leilei 5/20/2018 10:33 PM
probably lazily done to satisfy a microsoft deal
10:33 PM
i'm sure tecmo would desire one disc for both (edited)
ZeaLitY 5/20/2018 10:40 PM
Was new music made for Mania's Encore mode?
Neko May 5/20/2018 10:47 PM
@Love Bodhi#8346: That qualifies, then
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 10:50 PM
after i beat arcade mode with kasumi and entered my name it gave me a disc is dirty message
10:50 PM
probably missing data
Laenthor 5/20/2018 10:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqAG0abOxCY Feels good to be done with this!
Laenthor
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets PC - Unused Animations
DarthDubඞ 5/20/2018 11:01 PM
i think it only has the base game and none of the cutscnes are on the disc
11:02 PM
so it gave me an error message while trying to load a cutscene that wasn't on the disc
felineki 5/21/2018 1:00 AM
punk7890 5/21/2018 1:00 AM
https://twitter.com/forestillusion/status/990814167220170753
Forest of Illusion (@forestillusion)
An early Famicom magazine showing the insides of Mario.
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Athena 悠里マヤ 5/21/2018 1:04 AM
わお
1:06 AM
Mario has atomic powered fist. 万能原子力げんこつ
ゲームボーイ64 5/21/2018 1:28 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ you might be the best to answer my question, but what are the meanings of おん and くん when talking about kanji?
divingkxt 5/21/2018 1:36 AM
Kun is the native Japanese reading of a kanji,
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1:36 AM
while on is a borrowed reading from a Chinese language.
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1:37 AM
There are multiple borrowed readings from the Chinese languages too.
1:38 AM
Go'on, Kan'on, Tou'on, and Kanyou'on.
Neko May 5/21/2018 1:39 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ: Is that how he throws fireballs?
divingkxt 5/21/2018 1:39 AM
That last one includes both misinterpretations that became standard.
1:39 AM
Neko May 5/21/2018 1:40 AM
Yes, I saw that earlier and can't read any of it.
ゲームボーイ64 5/21/2018 1:40 AM
Thanks, divingkatae
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/21/2018 1:44 AM
@Neko May no. fireball is "炎花分解炎玉製造胃"; Fire flower decompose and fireball generate stomach
1:44 AM
right thirdone. (edited)
Nukley 5/21/2018 1:44 AM
The dev kit bios
1:45 AM
For the dreamcast
1:45 AM
With the 3d startup screen (edited)
Neko May 5/21/2018 1:45 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ: So he actually pukes the fireballs
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Nukley 5/21/2018 1:45 AM
Sorry, i was offline for a bit
divingkxt 5/21/2018 1:46 AM
@Nukley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6off9WLJ1No ?
zadoke123
Dreamcast PAL Dev Kit Startup (with bios on descrition!)
1:46 AM
Check the description
Nukley 5/21/2018 1:47 AM
I put that in reicast, but it didn't have the intro. Do i have to use a non-android emulator?
1:47 AM
It just flashed the dreamcast logo
divingkxt 5/21/2018 1:51 AM
I don't know much about Dreamcast emulation to help you.
Nukley 5/21/2018 1:51 AM
Ah, alright then.
divingkxt 5/21/2018 1:54 AM
Your best bet is to check out TOSEC or NoIntro.
FMecha 5/21/2018 2:05 AM
https://twitter.com/Protodude/status/998383765197123584?s=19
Brian (@Protodude)
The unused Mega Man 4 sphinx boss footage has been recovered! A big thanks to Mathias and @MultitapMugen! Download the whole episode here: https://t.co/U7B2czKKYI https://t.co/HkoChZuXNT
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2:06 AM
MM4 stuff
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/21/2018 3:15 AM
was the other video deleted?
3:17 AM
seems
3:18 AM
wtf
3:23 AM
ok just read the previous tweets
3:24 AM
funny almost no one backed it up
Neko May 5/21/2018 3:30 AM
That's one of the most serious problems with "the cloud"
3:31 AM
People expect things that are there to stay there forever
3:31 AM
And that's just not the case
3:31 AM
It's guaranteed to disappear at some point for some reason (edited)
3:32 AM
Remember: There is no cloud, it's just someone else's computer.
eientei 5/21/2018 5:51 AM
Archived it to a couple places
5:51 AM
https://archive.org/details/TheGamingAdventuresOfEdwardSemrad.Part2Of3WithKenWilliams1 https://youtu.be/EHyOGjv_fEw
TCRFChannel
The Gaming Adventures of Edward Semrad (Part 2 of 3) with Ken Will...
5:52 AM
@punk7890 You gonna explain your latest article
punk7890 5/21/2018 5:53 AM
it uh
5:53 AM
had debug
5:53 AM
yes, debug
eientei 5/21/2018 6:01 AM
It's Britney debug b*tch
punk7890 5/21/2018 6:15 AM
3
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/21/2018 7:08 AM
what about parts 1 and 3
punk7890 5/21/2018 7:10 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/998520284662546432
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu (how many times have I said this now? ◕ ◡ ◕ ) in Britney's Dance Beat (PS2) https://t.co/Qpu2IJCJtd These let you view models, animations and stages in the game. The rest of the options are regular game options.
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Deleted User 5/21/2018 7:29 AM
why tho
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/21/2018 7:31 AM
nice!
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/21/2018 8:01 AM
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8:01 AM
I found debug display in Spectral Force 2.
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rampy 5/21/2018 8:24 AM
eezzzz 5/21/2018 9:48 AM
Here's my backup of all three parts of the "Gaming Adventures of Edward Semrad" videos: https://mega.nz/#F!lAEGTT5A!Zxv5Oc5aLaEKT48sAmZqTw (edited)
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punk7890 5/21/2018 8:32 PM
hi
8:36 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ I just found this: https://tcrf.net/Generation_of_Chaos in Generation of Chaos Next also
Generation of Chaos
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8:36 PM
same debug display
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/21/2018 8:51 PM
nice!
punk7890 5/21/2018 8:59 PM
punk7890 5/21/2018 9:44 PM
yay 430 ps2 games now
9:45 PM
大勝
9:49 PM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/998742690454945793
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several debug displays in Generation of Chaos Next (PS2) https://t.co/3A9w3a8b3T These allow you to view various parameters. It also enables you to edit a handful of them, such has enemy attack patterns and change health values of your party and enemies.
9:50 PM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/21/2018 10:13 PM
@punk7890 nice
10:13 PM
I kinda want to make dbgscrn like this
punk7890 5/21/2018 10:18 PM
thx
Revenant 5/21/2018 10:31 PM
i love when people join and then flood so much that they break their connection
10:31 PM
makes my job easier
Halfbit 5/21/2018 11:00 PM
Lol
punk7890 5/22/2018 6:54 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/998879680668160000
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in The Double Mahjong Puzzle (PS2) https://t.co/YYFjX7DKJo None of the test options work here anymore, unfortunately. This same menu can also be found in Truck Kyousoukyoku: Ai to Kanashimi no Rodeo, and Britney's Dance Beat.
6:54 AM
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Athena 悠里マヤ 5/22/2018 7:11 AM
nice!
DevEd 5/22/2018 8:37 AM
>emails henk nieborg about the work he did for karma studios
8:38 AM
>"Who are you please?"
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DevEd 5/22/2018 9:09 AM
i'm not exaggerating btw, that was his actual response
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/22/2018 10:46 AM
thats how i would reply too
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/22/2018 11:37 AM
^
🐮 5/22/2018 1:38 PM
wow
DevEd 5/22/2018 2:58 PM
turns out it's just a case of "i want to know who i'm talking to"
3:01 PM
`I've done the following stuff for GBC when I was at Karma Studios in Arnhem , The Netherlands: - Disney's Atlantis (This was released on GBC but they somehow manages to butcher my pixels :)) - Stip (Bubble/Bobble like platformer, was complete but never released I think) - Keep The Balance (Puzzlegame, Finished but not sure if it was released. - Supernova (Olschool vertical Shooter prototype, believe this was for Gameboy Advance anyway) Got most of the above assets backed up except for 'keep the balance'. There might have been more loose stuff but I can't remember. Cheers, Henk.`
3:02 PM
i knew about atlantis, stip, and keep the balance but i've never heard of supernova
3:06 PM
might be a long shot but imma see if he has any of the games
3:06 PM
wait this isn't #prototypes
🐮 5/22/2018 3:12 PM
Ah, so he is Dutch? I had a hunch considering the name, but still
3:13 PM
Wait, how did you introduce yourself to him if he felt the need to ask a question like that?
DevEd 5/22/2018 3:15 PM
i didn't think i'd need an introduction tbh
🐮 5/22/2018 3:16 PM
:V
Revenant 5/22/2018 3:17 PM
it really is good practice to introduce yourself if you're going to just randomly ask someone about their job history
DevEd 5/22/2018 3:19 PM
i'll keep that in mind for next time
punk7890 5/22/2018 7:31 PM
hi
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/22/2018 8:07 PM
hey (edited)
Halfbit 5/22/2018 8:07 PM
Hi
Δndrew P. 5/22/2018 8:09 PM
hello
Halfbit 5/22/2018 8:09 PM
Δndrew P. 5/22/2018 8:17 PM
2
Andreelikes 5/22/2018 9:01 PM
What was that?
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 5/22/2018 9:37 PM
`{{source|[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUUcrRxHdYk GRAnimated]}}` this is resulting in source: source needed, why?
divingkxt 5/22/2018 9:44 PM
@GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ That =.
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 5/22/2018 9:44 PM
o
divingkxt 5/22/2018 9:44 PM
Do 1= before the URL. (edited)
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 5/22/2018 9:44 PM
so like `{{source|[1=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUUcrRxHdYk GRAnimated]}}`?
9:45 PM
nvm got it
9:45 PM
1= before the [
divingkxt 5/22/2018 9:45 PM
Yes.
GRAnimated ᵈᵘᵐᵇᵒ 5/22/2018 9:45 PM
thanks!
Revenant 5/22/2018 11:43 PM
https://twitter.com/SmokeMonsterTWI/status/999045778399285248
SmokeMonster (@SmokeMonsterTWI)
SNES: A never-before-dumped game revision was uncovered by a member of my Discord. SD The Great Battle (Japan) (Rev 1). This v1.1 is a later revision of the game than what's circulating, so it may have fixes or other updates.
DarthDubඞ 5/22/2018 11:50 PM
looks like a new no-intro set is on its way
Madison 5/23/2018 3:11 AM
Hello!
punk7890 5/23/2018 6:25 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/999234791340892160
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Princess Crown (PSP) https://t.co/mrIgyRggYY Sadly, the root of the debug menu does not render its text anymore. Only the obtain item menu does. Everything in this menu still works, however.
1
6:25 AM
6:26 AM
Atlus at its finest. Removing debug menu text since almost forever.
Madison 5/23/2018 6:34 AM
"How do we stop people hacking the game with debug" "Heheheh, good luck getting through this unmarked mess"
punk7890 5/23/2018 6:35 AM
6:36 AM
I wonder if it's all in the Saturn version still
6:36 AM
I mean, I did see some, but looks like the text print function of it was removed
Madison 5/23/2018 6:45 AM
Would it be possible to mod it back in? I assume it would be difficult at best
punk7890 5/23/2018 6:50 AM
Assuming all of the text is still there (I only saw a section of it, could be more though) and the function to print text is somewhere else (not likely), yes. If the text print function for it isn't, it wouldn't be fun to make a asm code to make it print again.
punk7890 5/23/2018 6:59 AM
checking it again I can confirm it never grabs the text from stack
Madison 5/23/2018 7:04 AM
Meaning?
punk7890 5/23/2018 7:05 AM
no print function reads the text
7:06 AM
sad days
Madison 5/23/2018 7:16 AM
Alas
MLagaffe 5/23/2018 9:21 AM
After what happened with Idolmasters Shiny Festa on PSP (Japan's own Hot Coffee incident) I don't really blame them for scrubbing debug menus, especially model viewers. It got so bad now CERO asks for the 3D models directly to rotate and examinate them in all directions.
Dezent 5/23/2018 9:22 AM
Oh?
MLagaffe 5/23/2018 9:24 AM
It had a model viewer, so first thing that happened was people forcing the girls into nsfw poses and uploading the pictures online. It caught CERO's attention and caused a policy change.
9:26 AM
Now it's not enough anymore to have restricted camera angles that prevent panty shots, the panties themselves are reviewed as if they were easily accessible as long as they are textured and modeled.
Dezent 5/23/2018 9:27 AM
Aaah
MLagaffe 5/23/2018 9:27 AM
Result: more mysterious black voids.
9:27 AM
and less debug menus.
9:29 AM
as a matter of fact, Nintendo has it as an official policy to scrub debug menus and developer notes to prevent anything directly or indirectly compromising because of this.
9:31 AM
it was only a matter of time tbh
9:33 AM
a lot of japanese developers didn't account for their internal shit to be datamined and uploaded online, and sometimes used as controversy ammo. so for example, in dragon's dogma,
9:34 AM
if the player is forced via memory editing to have absolutely no equipment,
9:34 AM
he's in his birthday suit (edited)
9:34 AM
in an anatomically correct way.
Neko May 5/23/2018 11:41 AM
ESRB demanded similar after the "Hot Coffee" controversy.
Netscape Navigator 5/23/2018 12:00 PM
dragon’s dongma
12:01 PM
dark arisen
🐮 5/23/2018 12:10 PM
Hot Coffee incident?
12:13 PM
christ
Stewie1.0 5/23/2018 1:09 PM
I updated this, but for some reason it still sounds like the old version. I uploaded the correct file https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=File%3AHMPDFT-pv_230.ogg
index.php?title=File%3AHMPDFT-pv_230.ogg
1:10 PM
Cuz i dont even have the old one anymore lol
1:12 PM
This is how it should sound:
1:12 PM
Deleted User 5/23/2018 1:56 PM
@Stewie1.0 Press Ctrl+F5 on the page to refresh your browser cache
1:57 PM
it's not loading the new file because it kept the old one in cache for faster page loading
Stewie1.0 5/23/2018 1:57 PM
Oh
1:58 PM
It still sounds like the old one
Deleted User 5/23/2018 2:05 PM
2:06 PM
new one sounds different from July 14 to me
Blatoy 5/23/2018 2:27 PM
Hello o/
Deleted User 5/23/2018 2:27 PM
o/
Dezent 5/23/2018 2:29 PM
ohai
doctor 5/23/2018 4:06 PM
hi
4:07 PM
id like to show some unused stuff i found in meteos ds
Stewie1.0 5/23/2018 4:18 PM
@Deleted User Oh well at least it does for u
4:18 PM
It sounds like the one i sent?
Deleted User 5/23/2018 4:19 PM
yeah
4:19 PM
it's stereo, it sounds nice.
4:19 PM
@doctor go for it
Stewie1.0 5/23/2018 4:20 PM
Ah well thats good. Problem before was i originally didnt know how to make the mono streams into stereo. The songs in Diva use mono streams, which makes it sound stereo in game
4:20 PM
The off vocal part and vocals both do it
4:22 PM
Good thing is soon im gona be getting all of Future Tone DX's files so then i can look for more unused stuff
4:24 PM
Should Future Tone DX be a separate page or part of Future Tone's page?
doctor 5/23/2018 4:25 PM
there are two usused songs that are supposed to take place in star trip (edited)
4:25 PM
4:25 PM
4:26 PM
there are also tons of unused sprites
4:27 PM
4:27 PM
(the options button on the left, for example)
Deleted User 5/23/2018 4:33 PM
neat
4:33 PM
@Stewie1.0 yes, separate
Stewie1.0 5/23/2018 4:34 PM
Oh alright
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/23/2018 4:35 PM
sakurai totes on graphics design with those menu buttons
Deleted User 5/23/2018 4:39 PM
less wire
Stewie1.0 5/23/2018 4:53 PM
https://tcrf.net/Hatsune_Miku:_Project_DIVA_Dreamy_Theater
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Dreamy Theater
4:53 PM
Added unused animations
YSB573 5/23/2018 9:55 PM
heard about the warioware thing
9:56 PM
hopefully it will be possible to isolate the vocals for Drifting Away soon?
Deleted User 5/23/2018 9:57 PM
probably .
9:58 PM
it is possible to use a program to isolate the separate layers and or extract them as separate .mp4 tracks .
YSB573 5/23/2018 9:58 PM
imo isolated vocals for Four Seasons and Drifting Away are the most useful things we'll be able to get out of these midi dumps (edited)
Deleted User 5/23/2018 9:59 PM
you're correct there , mis amigo .
10:00 PM
nice pfp btw , just sayin ' .
YSB573 5/23/2018 10:00 PM
thanks
10:01 PM
even though the vocals will be terribly bitcrushed at least it'll be cleaner than noise removal
Deleted User 5/23/2018 10:01 PM
it's still some thing , right? (edited)
YSB573 5/23/2018 10:02 PM
yeah it beats noise removal by lightyears
Deleted User 5/23/2018 10:03 PM
yeh .
10:04 PM
so , i can try to find a program to split the layers , thou i will need the file .
Neko May 5/23/2018 10:52 PM
I detect possible furries. :3
MysticSageJosh 5/23/2018 10:52 PM
AH!
10:52 PM
Runs from the furries
Neko May 5/23/2018 10:55 PM
I've got a great picture I came across earlier but I can't share it here because it's NSFW D:
Nex 5/23/2018 10:55 PM
lmao
Deleted User 5/23/2018 10:59 PM
furry?
11:00 PM
aren't u a furry too ? _ ? .
MysticSageJosh 5/23/2018 11:00 PM
furries are scurry
11:00 PM
i'm scurred
Deleted User 5/23/2018 11:00 PM
i ain't scary , l e w l .
Neko May 5/23/2018 11:01 PM
I'm a proud furry. :3
Deleted User 5/23/2018 11:02 PM
i don't class meh self as a furry , i think .
ShimDrawsMUGEN 5/23/2018 11:02 PM
imma brony, but i don't mind furries
MysticSageJosh 5/23/2018 11:03 PM
Scared Psyken noises
Δndrew P. 5/23/2018 11:13 PM
Thank god i’m friends with the chill ones though. the ones that I saw on Google+… man where do I begin (edited)
MysticSageJosh 5/23/2018 11:15 PM
OH MY GOD
11:15 PM
...people use google+?
11:15 PM
also what are we doing here, this is pretty #deleted-channel
Deleted User 5/23/2018 11:15 PM
i d k .
Neko May 5/23/2018 11:18 PM
Nobody else talking about anything
Deleted User 5/23/2018 11:19 PM
o o f .
MysticSageJosh 5/23/2018 11:19 PM
when did we get all uhh
11:19 PM
A E S T H E T I C
Stewie1.0 5/24/2018 12:33 AM
I found this odd motion in Dreamy Theater 1
12:33 AM
MysticSageJosh 5/24/2018 12:53 AM
wtf
punk7890 5/24/2018 1:08 AM
doesn't look healthy
1:08 AM
clearly only ダミ's do that
General Instrument CP1610 1979 5/24/2018 1:24 AM
lewd
MLagaffe 5/24/2018 5:35 AM
dami? more like dame
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/24/2018 7:03 AM
ダミー dummy
7:05 AM
That motion looks like Y字バランス. sorry, I didn't know it in English.
Madison 5/24/2018 7:06 AM
Halfbit 5/24/2018 10:52 AM
Hewwos
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/24/2018 10:57 AM
10:58 AM
I found debug display in SIMPLE 2000 series Vol. 63 Mogitate Mizugi! Onna Mamire no The Suiei Taikai.
Rena 5/24/2018 11:07 AM
Y字バランス = "Y shape balance"? I don't know any English term for it either
11:08 AM
It looks like the splits but that usually is done with both legs on the ground
11:11 AM
Some mod should probably look into this guy http://tcrf.net/r.php?a=568136,568135
Revenant 5/24/2018 11:23 AM
https://tcrf.net/User_talk:THE_GAMING_CHANNEL#Advertisement
11:23 AM
Dezent 5/24/2018 11:24 AM
rekt
Neko May 5/24/2018 11:24 AM
Revenant 5/24/2018 11:28 AM
at first i wasn't even going to bother with a warning but i was feeling generous
11:29 AM
i probably should have also said something about editing the same paragraph 6 times within 10 minutes but whatever
Deleted User 5/24/2018 11:41 AM
THE GAMING CHANNEL
Sunk 5/24/2018 11:47 AM
I'm actually surprised more by the fact he's chosen tcrf as the platform to advertise it on. I mean, it's not really as widespread as reddit or whatever
Revenant 5/24/2018 11:48 AM
he's not the first to try and by far not the most entertaining
11:48 AM
check this out https://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=15914
FMecha 5/24/2018 11:54 AM
http://archive.is/ExB0E
11:55 AM
Side note, I used to read this blog, then the blogger sold out to a dev and it shut down in December 2017, so there are no pics (I noted this in TCRF:CTE)
11:57 AM
It's basically a revisional difference material
GerbilSoft 5/24/2018 12:25 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166x-OEM-NINTENDO-WII-U-GAMEPAD-MOTHERBOARD-AS-IS-PARTS-BROKEN/222796470851?hash=item33dfb45a43:g:bEUAAOSwp7FaW-nr
12:25 PM
what could you do with 166 Wii U gamepad logic boards
12:25 PM
... 166 broken boards
Dezent 5/24/2018 12:42 PM
Create one working unit?
Rena 5/24/2018 12:46 PM
Maybe some useful parts
12:47 PM
Maybe make some kind of art out of them
Neko May 5/24/2018 1:05 PM
Melt them down, get $2 worth of metals
divingkxt 5/24/2018 1:13 PM
I'd melt pennies, but that's illegal now.
Neko May 5/24/2018 1:13 PM
It's always been
1:14 PM
For as long as I can remember, anyway
1:14 PM
You can mutilate US money for fun, but not for profit
1:14 PM
That's why penny press machines are legal
Halfbit 5/24/2018 3:52 PM
Don’t kill pennies! They’re only In a Cent!
olistepsforward 5/24/2018 4:02 PM
hello there
divingkxt 5/24/2018 4:02 PM
Hello.
olistepsforward 5/24/2018 4:03 PM
hi
leilei 5/24/2018 5:50 PM
the gaming channel also attempted to insert misinformation
5:50 PM
as there is no rare replay for the xbox 360
MysticSageJosh 5/24/2018 5:55 PM
it has 360 games, like
5:55 PM
a collection would only work
5:55 PM
on the xbone
5:56 PM
it has like.. multiple 360 games, right?
5:56 PM
it's only on xbone
leilei 5/24/2018 6:03 PM
"On March 17, 2010, it was released on the Xbox 360 in the RARE REPLAY pack."
6:03 PM
replay was 2015 for the xbone (edited)
6:04 PM
on x360 it's a xbla title
MysticSageJosh 5/24/2018 6:24 PM
wat
6:24 PM
who wrote this
divingkxt 5/24/2018 6:26 PM
@leilei Source plz
6:29 PM
@MysticSageJosh The Gaming Channel
6:29 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Perfect_Dark_%28Nintendo_64%2C_Xbox_360%29&type=revision&diff=568132&oldid=533470
index.php?title=PerfectDark%28Nintendo_64%2C_Xbox_360%29&type=re...
MysticSageJosh 5/24/2018 6:31 PM
how 2 ban idiots
leilei 5/24/2018 6:33 PM
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-us/Product/Perfect-Dark/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584109c2?DownloadType=Game#LiveZone
Smoke 5/24/2018 6:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCagik2KeU_7Huw342cUL05Q
THE GAMING CHANNEL
Welcome to my YouTube Channel. Please Visit my GOOGLE+ Page for Gaming News, Gaming Polls, and Gaming Reviews. January: Side Scroller Month. February: Online...
leilei 5/24/2018 7:06 PM
only plays old popular shooters (edited)
7:07 PM
and i thought that was battlefront 3 in the video list for a second
Oddbrother 5/24/2018 7:13 PM
It's a start.
Deleted User 5/24/2018 8:06 PM
idk if i am allowed to but meh and meh team made a test level build for cybershift , if any of u want the game , p m meh . (edited)
TommyD 5/24/2018 9:58 PM
@LuigiBlood @Revenant Do either of you know any of the Saturn emu devs?
Revenant 5/24/2018 9:58 PM
i don't
TommyD 5/24/2018 9:59 PM
Our new netlink tunneler just so happens to support yabause netlink support
9:59 PM
But yabause is shaky as an emulator
divingkxt 5/24/2018 11:22 PM
There's SSF, but it's deeply rooted in x86 ASM. (edited)
11:22 PM
Also, Mednafen.
leilei 5/24/2018 11:48 PM
mednafen rules
11:48 PM
i haven't used ssf in 10 years
11:48 PM
and 10 years ago it was the only saturn emulator worth using
divingkxt 5/24/2018 11:51 PM
Because Yabause is too crap.
11:52 PM
And is developed at a snail's pace.
leilei 5/24/2018 11:54 PM
i remember it used to get a bunch of coverage ages ago because it was the only linux-based emulator for saturn
11:54 PM
though i've never used iy then and still don't use it now
DarthDubඞ 5/24/2018 11:54 PM
if you're like me and have a potato pc ssf is the emulator to use (edited)
leilei 5/24/2018 11:54 PM
i think the hle 3d approach to saturn is a bad idea
TheMonkeyBob 5/25/2018 12:49 AM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174231737701/warioware-inc-midi-data-501-600
Neko May 5/25/2018 12:51 AM
The HLE approach to anytging is a bad idea
cuba200611 5/25/2018 12:59 AM
But again, it really was the only way to do emulation way back then...
ゲームボーイ64 5/25/2018 1:14 AM
all saturn emulators are pretty poor
1:14 AM
it just depends on what level of poor you're talking about (edited)
TheMonkeyBob 5/25/2018 1:14 AM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174232406436/warioware-midi-data-601-700
leilei 5/25/2018 1:19 AM
mednafen's only 'poor' is the proper checking of cuesheets that breaks bad dumps
ゲームボーイ64 5/25/2018 1:19 AM
ok
1:19 AM
I'll need to check out mednafen sometime
1:19 AM
I haven't really been keeping up with it
1:20 AM
mostly because it doesn't come with a GUI, and trying to use the command-line interface is too much of a pain in the arse
leilei 5/25/2018 1:20 AM
there are frontends
ゲームボーイ64 5/25/2018 1:22 AM
i know, i'm just too lazy to keep up
1:23 AM
it's my own fault, I just don't really use it, as I've not been emulating much recently
leilei 5/25/2018 1:23 AM
not your fault not many are aware that mednafen covers saturn these days
ゲームボーイ64 5/25/2018 1:24 AM
no, I know it covers saturn, I just don't use mednafen all that much
1:24 AM
i learned that through using openemu
1:25 AM
the most emulation I've done recenely is PCSX2
1:25 AM
*recently
Spyro 2025 5/25/2018 1:25 AM
Are you people gonna research this game, after its release?
ゲームボーイ64 5/25/2018 1:25 AM
maybe when they can dump it
DarthDubඞ 5/25/2018 1:25 AM
it's a mario game of course people are gonna dive into it
ゲームボーイ64 5/25/2018 1:25 AM
i probably should use mendafen, but the only saturn games I emulate are Tempest 2000 and sonic jam
Madison 5/25/2018 1:26 AM
If there's one game I really want looked at, it's Trauma Team
ゲームボーイ64 5/25/2018 1:26 AM
T2K has always been broken on saturn emulators, i wonder how it'll turn out on the newest version of mednafen (edited)
1:29 AM
I do wonder though, wonder whether the lunar games are better on the saturn than the PS1
punk7890 5/25/2018 3:55 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/999921792855638016
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several test menus in Super Bust-A-Move (PS2) https://t.co/lZFLQ0IFK4 These let you listen to music, sfx, and voices. It will also allow you to toggle debug info on screen as well.
3:55 AM
5
3:55 AM
Catch the heart, Taito!
EdTheNerd 5/25/2018 4:28 AM
3
1
LuigiBlood 5/25/2018 6:50 AM
@TommyD I do not know any Saturn devs, sorry
vervalkon 5/25/2018 1:12 PM
any Tomba pro around
vervalkon 5/25/2018 1:21 PM
we found something unused maybe(?) from Tomba! I can't remember this part at all, and after looking at some YouTube vids, the camera stops abruptly after the Tree of Knowledge so you never see the rightmost part of this area
2
2
1:22 PM
1:22 PM
the camera stops so you only see it like this:
1:22 PM
1:22 PM
but there's an entire section after it
1:22 PM
Dezent 5/25/2018 1:45 PM
Hm
1:45 PM
That's interesting, lemme see if I still have a Tomba savefile on PSP and I'll visit the area myself
1:51 PM
Yeah, the camera stops after the Tree of Knowledge, and I can't remember the area after it either
1:51 PM
I think it's unused then
goat 5/25/2018 2:17 PM
adsfsf the switch is so close to owning
Deleted User 5/25/2018 2:55 PM
So yeah I'm glad MiPR was found
2:55 PM
(Made in Point Richmond)
2:55 PM
...OH SHIT WRONG SERVER LOL
Netscape Navigator 5/25/2018 2:57 PM
you can delete your messages
divingkxt 5/25/2018 2:57 PM
@Deleted User Lemme guess, you're an LMW user.
Deleted User 5/25/2018 2:58 PM
Naw but I used to be on the Discord
2:58 PM
And I mistook one for the other lol
2:58 PM
Anyhoo, I'm not active here so... see ya on the other side
Nex 5/25/2018 4:04 PM
lolz
Revenant 5/25/2018 4:05 PM
see you later i guess
divingkxt 5/25/2018 4:19 PM
Where's Nikki the gryphon on here?
RadSpyro 5/25/2018 4:55 PM
Just to add to that Tomba area, I definitely agree that it appears to be unused. It's really interesting, because....
4:56 PM
There's supposed to be a village past it, which Tomba can't enter during gameplay. (edited)
divingkxt 5/25/2018 5:04 PM
Tomba was really rushed out the door.
5:04 PM
Especially in its Japanese release.
5:04 PM
There's not much the Japanese demo has either, despite predating the final release by a few weeks.
5:05 PM
Keep in mind the final Japanese release was on Christmas!
5:06 PM
So, it was very, very likely a rushjob.
Dezent 5/25/2018 5:17 PM
Interesting
5:21 PM
For the life of me, I can't remember what the other village was called... Iron something? Wasn't it also supposed to be bigger?
divingkxt 5/25/2018 5:28 PM
Some unused graphics were found, but the palette is some 15-bit thingy that makes it hard to determine what it looked like. (edited)
Dezent 5/25/2018 5:33 PM
Ah
divingkxt 5/25/2018 6:01 PM
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/604890-puzzle-quest-2/62606352
Debug Menu and such - Puzzle Quest 2 Message Board for PC - GameFAQs
For Puzzle Quest 2 on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Debug Menu and such".
Deleted User 5/25/2018 8:02 PM
*A4D is NOT ASSOCIATED in any way with A43127D. Neither the design nor instruction were developed by, are sold by, or are endorsed by A43127D. Parts for this Fine-tuning device are available at many electronics stores. This is not a A43127D product.
Revenant 5/25/2018 8:10 PM
could you kick up the 4D3D3D3
Splitwirez 5/25/2018 8:11 PM
Anyone else here know that feeling of when a single unused texture atlas contains elements from atleast 3 games, the oldest of which is represented in both its released form and a pre-release build shown a year prior to release?
divingkxt 5/25/2018 8:15 PM
Like, highly confused? I guess.
Splitwirez 5/25/2018 8:16 PM
Yes. Very. Then again, I wouldn't expect anything (less/more) from the mess that (is/was) Darkspore :P
old acc! inactive 5/25/2018 10:00 PM
found an interesting tidbit in pokemon BW and its sequels (edited)
10:00 PM
Keldeo will properly use the Legendary theme and the Three Muskateer's intro...but it's never encountered in the wild
10:00 PM
Meloetta of course has the unused held item but it doesnt use the Legendary theme
10:00 PM
at least not in B2W2
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/25/2018 10:04 PM
hmm
MrRichard999 5/25/2018 10:37 PM
steam://openurl/https://store.steampowered.com/app/608800/Guns_of_Icarus_Alliance/
Guns of Icarus Alliance
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10:42 PM
steam://openurl/https://store.steampowered.com/app/202200/Galactic_Civilizations_II_Ultimate_Edition/
Galactic Civilizations® II: Ultimate Edition
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Neko May 5/25/2018 11:59 PM
Guns of Icarus is FTP, and the second one isn't free at all.
11:59 PM
No advertising, please.
Spyro 2025 5/26/2018 12:07 AM
Can the MTA DEMO still be researched?
divingkxt 5/26/2018 12:08 AM
MTA?
Spyro 2025 5/26/2018 12:08 AM
Mario Tennis Aces
DarthDubඞ 5/26/2018 12:08 AM
does anyone in here even have switches hacked?
divingkxt 5/26/2018 12:08 AM
Depends on whether or not someone downloaded the game before it was taken down.
12:09 AM
There are several hacks for the Switch, believe it or not.
DarthDubඞ 5/26/2018 12:09 AM
no i mean people in this server
divingkxt 5/26/2018 12:09 AM
Possible Ehm.
12:09 AM
I don't have a Switch.
DarthDubඞ 5/26/2018 12:09 AM
i haven't touched it cause i don't wanna get banned and i only have one
Spyro 2025 5/26/2018 12:10 AM
There is already game research about Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, for example
12:10 AM
https://tcrf.net/Mario_Kart_8_Deluxe
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
DarthDubඞ 5/26/2018 12:10 AM
but yeah like diving says, it depends on whether someone with a hacked switch dumped it
divingkxt 5/26/2018 12:14 AM
Dumped it and there's already tools to look into these games floating around.
DarthDubඞ 5/26/2018 12:14 AM
if i had a 2nd switch i'd try this
goat 5/26/2018 1:06 AM
it is very, very easy to dump games on the switch
1:07 AM
you need a bendy wire and steady hands and you can have dumping stuff working in minutes
1:08 AM
the only way it can go wrong is if you touch pin 4
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:08 AM
I want a Switch, but money
1:08 AM
@goat Pin 4 is what, reflash enable?
goat 5/26/2018 1:09 AM
pin 4 is 5V iirc
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:09 AM
Ah
goat 5/26/2018 1:09 AM
pin 10 to pin 1 is ideal, pin 10 to fan screw is fine, pin 10 to pin 9 works if a joycon is inserted too
1:10 AM
pin 4 to pin not 4 is dumping 5V down a circuit with no protection
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:10 AM
*nod*
goat 5/26/2018 1:11 AM
early pioneers were using foil and it was not going well at times
1:11 AM
right now the stanadard is a paper clip
1:11 AM
or a $4 ebay jig
1:12 AM
if you have like, a google pixel 2 it's convenient as hell because the process is
1:13 AM
put jig in, hold vol+ and power, wait, if nothing happens plug the pixel 2 into the switch and use WebUSB (when did this happen) to send over a payload
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:13 AM
Unfortunately I don't (or a Switch)
1:13 AM
(and by the time I can afford to get one all there'll be is the new revision because that's just my luck)
goat 5/26/2018 1:14 AM
mariko is the codename for the new revision and it would actually not shock me if they failed to fix this bug
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:14 AM
If I get one, it'll be fixed; if I shell out for rev0, rev1 will be wide open
goat 5/26/2018 1:15 AM
they'regoing to have to specifically bug nvidia to fix the bug because it's not in nintendo hardware or software
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:15 AM
Ah
DarthDubඞ 5/26/2018 1:15 AM
i actually might buy a new switch if the new revision actually comes out
1:16 AM
just so i can say i have both (and hack the non-mariko one)
goat 5/26/2018 1:16 AM
there are no exploits past 3.0.0 in nintendland, it's all tegra exploits
1:17 AM
it's kinda fascinating to see an exploit this low
1:18 AM
they're having to initialize all the hardware manually with reverse engineered info because the bootrom exploit hits before functionality like the sd card slot are ready
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:19 AM
Huh
goat 5/26/2018 1:20 AM
https://github.com/Atmosphere-NX/Atmosphere/projects
1:21 AM
that's the parts of the cfw that isn't going to be $30 at launch
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:27 AM
What's the $30 part? A game or?
goat 5/26/2018 1:31 AM
there's a paid cfw coming out called TX OS
1:31 AM
it's the same shit, even including the option to purposefully brick your system like the free stuff
1:32 AM
the intentional birck will be good once the cfw is good becauuse from being bricked you're automatically putting the system into receive payload mode
1:33 AM
right now it causes some charging issues and, like all switch homebrew things, causes problems with sleep mode
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:35 AM
1:35 AM
And that's required to do Switch CFW?!
Madison 5/26/2018 1:37 AM
I hope they shut down. Unofficial paid mods are more likely to, yeah?
Rena 5/26/2018 1:38 AM
That does sound like a good way to receive a nastygram from Nintendo Of America Legal Dept
goat 5/26/2018 1:38 AM
it's not required to do switch cfw, it just lets you skip the requirement to bridge pins
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/26/2018 1:38 AM
Ah
1:38 AM
@Rena Indeed
goat 5/26/2018 1:39 AM
i beliee the current Hekate way to do auto-RCM/intentional brick is XORing the first byte of boot
1:39 AM
that way running it again fixes it
1:41 AM
the paid one needs to be shut down with an iron fist but they are being suprisingly progressive
1:41 AM
their jig/dongle combo will work with the standard cfw or any arbitrary payload you want
Deleted User 5/26/2018 1:52 AM
No gods no masters 666 666 666 666 666
EdTheNerd 5/26/2018 2:32 AM
Wot
eientei 5/26/2018 2:40 AM
@Deleted User Yes gods yes masters 7777777
vervalkon 5/26/2018 4:54 AM
@RadSpyro wow, never noticed that
punk7890 5/26/2018 5:34 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1000309219222962177
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a fairly large debug menu in Sky Odyssey (PS2) https://t.co/Uip2aVOvbV This lets you adjust various plane parameters, test music, voices, and SFX. It also allows you to quick jump into any game mode.
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5:35 AM
Deleted User 5/26/2018 5:49 AM
@punk7890 well you've been finding lotsa debug menus lately in games
5:49 AM
so I guess i can give you some applauding
eientei 5/26/2018 6:03 AM
Twist: @punk7890 is actually a team of hackers
punk7890 5/26/2018 6:04 AM
@Deleted User thanks
6:05 AM
@eientei
Gilgamesh 5/26/2018 6:10 AM
hello
punk7890 5/26/2018 6:10 AM
@Gilgamesh hello there
Gilgamesh 5/26/2018 6:10 AM
hi Punk7890
punk7890 5/26/2018 6:11 AM
what's new in France
Gilgamesh 5/26/2018 6:13 AM
I don't know
eientei 5/26/2018 6:16 AM
@Neko May https://twitter.com/GRIMECRAFT/status/1000123504153452544
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Gilgamesh 5/26/2018 6:17 AM
Baten Kaitos - Eternal Wings demo
6:18 AM
Load and Save Game is disabled
6:19 AM
https://twitter.com/gilgalegrouik/status/1000132655134986240
Gilgamesh (@gilgalegrouik)
Baten Kaitos - Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean (Demo) zz_BatenKaitos_game.tgc DKBEAF LOAD GAME enabled
punk7890 5/26/2018 6:23 AM
nice
Gilgamesh 5/26/2018 6:24 AM
english language
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/26/2018 7:32 AM
nice
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/26/2018 8:15 AM
i love the way they name their tgcs zz_ on the demo discs to force them to the bottom of the directory
8:16 AM
Splitwirez 5/26/2018 8:20 AM
ff 5/26/2018 10:45 AM
reeee
divingkxt 5/26/2018 12:53 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Uno_(WiiWare) Do we really need this page?
Index.php?title=Uno (WiiWare)
12:54 PM
I honestly don't think so. Excessively boring too
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/26/2018 12:56 PM
>Uno is a card game that debued in 1971.
12:56 PM
phonetics are fun
Hiccup 5/26/2018 1:01 PM
Stuff like that has been deleted before. E.g. dummy.txt files containing nothing. This is basically the same thing.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:37 PM
im not 100% sure but i dont think this trailer ever appeared outside of china
2:37 PM
https://youtu.be/nK4GpxRj3g0
Chinese Nintendo
[iQue Player] Super Mario 64 Trailer
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:39 PM
Not terribly interesting in my eyes, considering it's using footage based on the final Chinese version.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:39 PM
yeah
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:40 PM
Made several years after its initial release and featuring a MIDI rendition straight from VGMusic.
Revenant 5/26/2018 2:40 PM
still kinda interesting to see though
2:40 PM
just for the international aspect
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:41 PM
afaik the soundtrack isnt used anywhere else
Revenant 5/26/2018 2:41 PM
lol at the MIDI BGM though
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:41 PM
cds.idc.ique.com:16963/cds/download?content_id=20000001 and cds.idc.ique.com:16963/cds/download?content_id=20000002
2:41 PM
download -> rename to .avi
2:41 PM
its weird that theyre on the cds
2:41 PM
theres a bunch of other trailers, too
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:44 PM
@Jhynjhiruu MIDI rendition straight from VGMusic
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:45 PM
youll have to explain that to me
Sunk 5/26/2018 2:45 PM
never heard of vgmusic?
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:45 PM
not really
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:46 PM
https://www.vgmusic.com/
VGMusic - 31,684 Game Music MIDI files
Video Game MIDI Music from NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Gameboy, Genesis, Master System, Sega Dreamcast, Sega Saturn, Sony PlayStation, X-Box, Atari, TurboGrafx-16, and more!
2:46 PM
This.
Sunk 5/26/2018 2:46 PM
it's one of the oldest websites, but other than that, it's where people dump their midis based of off video game music
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:46 PM
Basically, a repository of MIDI renditions of video game music.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:46 PM
i highly doubt the music in that trailer comes from there
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:46 PM
And its website design hasn't been updated since 1998.
2:47 PM
https://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/n64#Super_Mario_64
2:47 PM
@Jhynjhiruu There are at least five different renditions of this sound track alone.
Sunk 5/26/2018 2:47 PM
so those chinese devs stole the music? from a fan website?
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:47 PM
^
2:48 PM
?
2:48 PM
doesnt seem like a thing theyd do
Netscape Navigator 5/26/2018 2:48 PM
it really does sound like the default windows gm.dls sound source for midi playback
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:48 PM
I guess you could say that.
2:48 PM
Not that it's a complex tune either.
Netscape Navigator 5/26/2018 2:49 PM
although you can hear a channel that sounds like a piano playing a part it isn't supposed to
Sunk 5/26/2018 2:49 PM
would have been funny, but since china has little to no definition of copyright, it's a pretty normal thing for them to do
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:49 PM
ique is like
2:49 PM
a subsidiary of nintendo
2:49 PM
nintendo doesnt normally download their own soundtracks
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:49 PM
iQue's a joint venture between Wei Yen and Nintendo.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:50 PM
was
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:50 PM
So, not quite Nintendo.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:50 PM
dr wei yen left in 2013
2:50 PM
at which point it became a wholly owned subsidiary
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:50 PM
Yeah, but in 2003, Wei Yen was a part of iQue, so yeah.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:50 PM
true
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:50 PM
Not fully Nintendo.
Sunk 5/26/2018 2:50 PM
doctor? was he actually a doctor?
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:50 PM
yeah
2:51 PM
but, they (probably, given circumstances) had access to the source code of the games to translate them
2:51 PM
nintendo probably made the soundtrack for that ad
2:51 PM
trailer
2:51 PM
whatever
Netscape Navigator 5/26/2018 2:51 PM
speaking of vgmusic did anyone ever do a proper comparison on the map music in Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood
2:51 PM
because people kept saying it sounded like bad fan midis
2:52 PM
with an even worse soundset
Sunk 5/26/2018 2:53 PM
bad sonic midis eh. early 2000 sonic fangames have a lot of them
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:53 PM
If Nintendo really made that soundtrack, why does it sound like it's got the default Windows sound font?
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:53 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:53 PM
That's really uncharacteristic of them.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:53 PM
perhaps its supposed to sound like that
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:53 PM
They almost always make their own, based on whatever keyboards they used.
2:53 PM
Highly doubt that.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:53 PM
crazy theory
2:53 PM
well, why would they release it if it didnt sound how they wanted?
2:54 PM
why would the 3 different (2 different? not 100% sure) versions of it use the same soundtrack if it was wrong?
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:54 PM
Because the trailer isn't using a rip straight from the game.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:54 PM
indeed
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:55 PM
It's playing a rip played straight from Windows Media Player with the default Windows sound font.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:55 PM
indeed
2:55 PM
but, who made the midi?
2:55 PM
probably not a fan one
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:57 PM
Tough to say.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:57 PM
ive never heard that music anywhere else
2:58 PM
the american trailer is completely different as far as i can tell
2:58 PM
idk about the european one
2:58 PM
and they used the ique player version of the game in the trailer, so the gameplay aspect is different
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:58 PM
why would they release it if it didnt sound how they wanted
Revenant 5/26/2018 2:58 PM
https://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/n64/m64metlm.mid
2:58 PM
i'm pretty sure it's this one
divingkxt 5/26/2018 2:59 PM
@Jhynjhiruu ^
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:59 PM
different soundfont
2:59 PM
oh wait thats just vlc
2:59 PM
bass-y bits sound different, again, probably vlc
Revenant 5/26/2018 2:59 PM
if you listen to the actual arrangement it's basically identical though
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 2:59 PM
yeah
3:00 PM
shorter
3:00 PM
if it is the same, why would ique have used a fan-made midi?
A Blob 5/26/2018 3:01 PM
Laziness
Revenant 5/26/2018 3:01 PM
probably because it was easier than figuring out how to use the actual ingame music and whoever made the trailer didn't give a shit
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 3:01 PM
thats unlike ique though
3:01 PM
they put a ton of care and attention into everything else
A Blob 5/26/2018 3:02 PM
Sometimes, someone can just trip up badly or make something bad. I guess.
Jhynjhiruu 5/26/2018 3:03 PM
but... all 3 versions?
3:03 PM
idk
3:03 PM
perhaps
divingkxt 5/26/2018 3:46 PM
Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:04 PM
lol
Tom [MarioDS64] 5/26/2018 5:32 PM
5:32 PM
5:32 PM
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/26/2018 5:43 PM
what are these?
Halfbit 5/26/2018 5:46 PM
Game boy protos
divingkxt 5/26/2018 5:46 PM
The right one is a proto for Mario Land 2.
5:46 PM
From "Mario Labs", apparently.
LuigiBlood 5/26/2018 5:46 PM
They're dumped
divingkxt 5/26/2018 5:46 PM
mariolabs.nintendo.co.jp
LuigiBlood 5/26/2018 5:46 PM
IIRC Mario Land 2 is final
5:47 PM
also I'm familiar with these Metroid stickers
5:48 PM
5:48 PM
Sound Factory prototype
Tom [MarioDS64] 5/26/2018 7:00 PM
They’re final
goat 5/26/2018 7:01 PM
it looks like someone shot it with a double barrel chip launcher and the wound healed well
jαy 5/26/2018 8:59 PM
Hi! Is there anyone specific I should contact about registering an account on TCRF? (edited)
Wumbo 5/26/2018 9:00 PM
#account-requests
jαy 5/26/2018 9:00 PM
Thanks.
divingkxt 5/26/2018 9:14 PM
https://tcrf.net/Sentient_(PlayStation)
Sentient (PlayStation)
9:14 PM
Some strange things found here.
9:14 PM
Including one of the few confirmed instances of MIPS assembly in an official PlayStation game.
Deleted User 5/26/2018 9:26 PM
nice .
Δndrew P. 5/26/2018 9:28 PM
So I checked out SA2B's TCRF page and this isn't documented yet, so here I go. Basically, if you use a cheat code in the GameCube version of SA2B that let's you play as any character (except Knuckles and Rouge) and use that cheat code in a Knuckles/Rouge level, the monitors will show a placeholder message saying "NoText" when you go up to one.
9:32 PM
(and fyi using the always sonic or always shadow cheat code in the Tails/Eggman levels is kinda fun because it's like a big obsticle course) (edited)
Deleted User 5/26/2018 9:34 PM
k e w l .
9:35 PM
i also discovered a hidden room from ctf_turbine in tf2 , but that has not been added yet . (edited)
GerbilSoft 5/26/2018 10:13 PM
https://youtu.be/uVXFSdj0tOI
Larsen's Wii Stuff
Worst Wii Banners
Δndrew P. 5/26/2018 10:24 PM
the first one looked like some person just copy-pasted a template and photo edited like 4 things and thats it (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/26/2018 10:25 PM
thats probably right actually
Δndrew P. 5/26/2018 10:25 PM
second one is literally just a parallax scrolling and a 1 second apple loop
BearyScary 5/26/2018 10:34 PM
That video looks pretty interesting. I'll have to check it out
divingkxt 5/26/2018 10:50 PM
@sunn "Interestingly, the build date for the demo is the same as the final USA and European releases: April 17, 2003. "
10:51 PM
So, it's not really suitable to be labelled as a prototype.
Neko May 5/26/2018 11:52 PM
Unless the final never had the build info updated
11:53 PM
Like the Madden games for the Genesis
11:54 PM
The sequels all have the same build date as the first one
Revenant 5/26/2018 11:55 PM
they used the bttf sports almanac to make all of them at the same time
Neko May 5/26/2018 11:55 PM
lol
Kelton 5/27/2018 5:44 AM
How many of y'all have heard about the Official Dolphin Emulator?
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 5:44 AM
as in, like, the massive blue box, or...?
Kelton 5/27/2018 5:45 AM
Not the GDEV. The pc/Mac software.
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 5:45 AM
oh
5:45 AM
no then
eientei 5/27/2018 5:46 AM
I've heard about the Unofficial Dolphin Emulator
Kelton 5/27/2018 5:46 AM
Basically it's an API layer that lets GC games run from source. Think wine but across platforms; essentially it's not really an emulator and can't run compiled code
5:47 AM
This is the second most widely known and leaked ninty dev emulator; first is Ensata which is a real DS emulator.
5:48 AM
But there are more than just those two which are extremely obscure.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/27/2018 5:48 AM
inb4 silhouette
Kelton 5/27/2018 5:48 AM
No lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/27/2018 5:48 AM
im really skeptical of that myself
Kelton 5/27/2018 5:48 AM
90s internet hoaxes lool
5:49 AM
Deep within the wiis sdk
5:49 AM
There is a mention of a never seen "revolution emulator kit"
5:49 AM
Listed under the GC debug platforms
5:50 AM
Presumably this is a modification of the GC emulator for wii with starlet "emulation"
5:50 AM
In fact we know it has starlet emulation because there's another mention of it in a config file
5:51 AM
This emulator has never been leaked and never will.
5:51 AM
It likely was only used in early wii hardware development and never sent to third parties
5:52 AM
Think late 2004 early 2005
5:52 AM
But
5:52 AM
Something like this exists for the switch as well
5:52 AM
Ninty still distributes it with the sdk
5:52 AM
It's a main way of debugging switch code
5:54 AM
The wii u is interesting because it appears to have been developed mainly in 2008 thru 2010 but the earliest sdk we have is 2011 at which point it was pretty much hardware complete
5:55 AM
This means there was likely a wii u emulator in circa 2009
5:55 AM
The wii u bootrom is dated to 2009
5:55 AM
Someday I will go to noa hq and demand the revolution emulator
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 5:58 AM
apparently the ique player sdk contains beta 64dd ipls
Kelton 5/27/2018 6:00 AM
Interesting
6:00 AM
Ique player sdk was quite a lazy job they just copied the n64 sdk including irreelevant bits like n64dd (edited)
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:00 AM
indeed
6:01 AM
and theres the fact that the docs are in english
Kelton 5/27/2018 6:02 AM
Fun fact there was a very very early wii sdk distributed in late 2005
6:03 AM
By sdk I mean docs and libs for a controller prototype that plugged into GDEVs that was added into the GC sdk
6:04 AM
And apparently a physical sheet of paper with spec differences
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:04 AM
https://twitter.com/luigiblood/status/989987689209491457?lang=en-gb
LuigiBlood (@LuigiBlood)
Okay for some reason, iQue Player SDK leaks, and we get beta(?) 64DD IPL ROMs in Japanese AND English.
Kelton 5/27/2018 6:05 AM
I wish I had a 2000 beta retail version GC ipl
6:06 AM
Or better a June 2006 build of retail wii sysmenu (edited)
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:06 AM
apparently the ique wii sysmenu was on nus for a while, but no-one kept it cos they didnt think it was important
6:06 AM
or something like that
Kelton 5/27/2018 6:07 AM
Ique wii was cancelled it was meant to be released and coded as a region but never released
6:07 AM
Taiwan and hk was released tho
6:07 AM
So Chinese wii did exist
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:07 AM
yup
6:07 AM
@LuigiUltra64 was actually the person that told me that
Kelton 5/27/2018 6:08 AM
Fun fact ios4v3 was on nus at one point for some reason
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:09 AM
anyone have any idea what osc and idc stand for, in the context of http://osc.idc.ique.com:16976/osc/public/iQueHome?OscAction=navigate&locale=zh_CN?
6:10 AM
and then there are the images on that same server
Kelton 5/27/2018 6:10 AM
Idk my area is wii not ique
6:10 AM
Sorry
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:10 AM
in general
6:10 AM
theres also a cds
6:10 AM
content distribution server
6:10 AM
but what do osc and idc mean?
Hiccup 5/27/2018 6:51 AM
Would unused content that only exists in a (as far as I can tell) post-final demo go on a subpage, or could it go alongside the other content with a note beside the relevant parts?
eientei 5/27/2018 6:52 AM
What sort of content
Hiccup 5/27/2018 7:14 AM
the game is Mario Kart 8 (Wii U) (edited)
7:14 AM
content is:
7:14 AM

- test track

7:15 AM

- debug folder containing build date/numbers, config files and symbol map

(edited)
Hiccup 5/27/2018 7:29 AM
@eientei
eientei 5/27/2018 7:46 AM
@Hiccup What's the build date on final v. demo?
Hiccup 5/27/2018 7:50 AM
final doesn't have a build date (both those things listed above are not present in retail versions). demo one was a month or so before JP release date. (edited)
Hiccup 5/27/2018 8:08 AM
I vote for putting it with the other content.
old acc! inactive 5/27/2018 8:49 AM
it should go in a subpage
8:49 AM
if it's exclusive to the post-release demo
Hiccup 5/27/2018 9:03 AM
I don't object to that, but I prefer the idea of keeping it with the rest of the stuff
old acc! inactive 5/27/2018 9:06 AM
hmm
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/27/2018 10:51 AM
sorry for the ping but it's kind of important (edited)
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Dezent 5/27/2018 10:52 AM
Oh my god is that person who I think it is?
Nex 5/27/2018 10:52 AM
lmaooooooooooooo
whizzer0 5/27/2018 10:52 AM
for once someone pinged everyone for a good reason
1
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 10:52 AM
what'S that Rac1Alpha.rar file?
eientei 5/27/2018 10:52 AM
A rar archive
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 10:52 AM
I hate RAR (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/27/2018 10:53 AM
got 7zip?
eientei 5/27/2018 10:53 AM
RAwR
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 10:53 AM
Yes I do but joke
Nex 5/27/2018 10:53 AM
rawr xoxo
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/27/2018 10:53 AM
rar X3
eientei 5/27/2018 10:53 AM
Gossip Girl
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 5/27/2018 10:54 AM
holds up spork
FrostedGeulleisia 5/27/2018 10:55 AM
I think it's actually time to edit the pages on Pokémon SM and USUM, to remove this part since, it'll no longer be true starting from June `Zygarde - Zygarde cannot be received as Shiny in Sun and Moon. The collective of Zygarde Cells and Cores is locked to never be Shiny when they are formed together. However, a Shiny Zygarde was later distributed to Generation VII games as part of an event.` Shiny Zygarde is actually being distributed from June 1 to June 22th, Also are the Hidden Ability starter mentions of them being unobtainable also removed? They got distributed a long time ago
10:56 AM
and yes I typed out a wall
FrostedGeulleisia 5/27/2018 11:03 AM
of course it being shinylocked is still true
GerbilSoft 5/27/2018 11:03 AM
Regarding the dolphin emulator mentioned earlier
11:03 AM
The retail Pikmin disc has a build of Pikmin compiled using said emulator
Deleted User 5/27/2018 11:59 AM
can I write about things cut from official release but seen on pre-release screenshots?
11:59 AM
or only about leftovers in game files?
11:59 AM
of course with providing suitable screenshots that I'm talking about
FMecha 5/27/2018 11:59 AM
That's what Prerelease namespace is for
Deleted User 5/27/2018 12:00 PM
ohh
12:00 PM
now I see
12:00 PM
it makes sense
12:00 PM
thanks!
12:01 PM
so GTA SA doesn't have such page, so I have to make one
divingkxt 5/27/2018 12:41 PM
Right.
f(x)^3 5/27/2018 12:48 PM
Has anyone looked at Colin Mcrae Rally 2? (edited)
12:48 PM
I'm looking around it right now
divingkxt 5/27/2018 12:48 PM
Not to my knowledge.
12:48 PM
Unless you're talking about the PS1 version. https://tcrf.net/Colin_McRae_Rally_2.0_(PlayStation)
Colin McRae Rally 2.0 (PlayStation)
divingkxt 5/27/2018 12:58 PM
Oh, btw, how's Revenant going?
Revenant 5/27/2018 1:04 PM
fine, and you?
1:04 PM
divingkxt 5/27/2018 1:08 PM
The game.
1:08 PM
There was a cheeky comment hidden in the set-up's executable.
1:09 PM
"If it doesn't work, bite me."
f(x)^3 5/27/2018 1:11 PM
It was in the configurator, but that was about the best I found that day. Nothing much more within any text files or within the game executable itself, most strings in the EXE are for the script system it seems
1:13 PM
CMR 2 doesn't look too interesting, it seems it only has a total of one command line argument D:
1:13 PM
"gamegauge"
Deleted User 5/27/2018 1:33 PM
afair there was unused Punto in CMR 5
1:33 PM
at least some strings (edited)
1:33 PM
or empty folder
Kelton 5/27/2018 1:54 PM
1:54 PM
unused content from unused content :^)
divingkxt 5/27/2018 1:54 PM
https://pastebin.com/EWYvYkt1 Still a bunch of stuff here to look at.
Things to investigate - PSX master edition - Pastebin.com
Kelton 5/27/2018 1:57 PM
1:57 PM
if anyone guesses what this is they get 8 redbeescoin
divingkxt 5/27/2018 1:58 PM
What do you mean by this?
1:59 PM
If you mean, the GameCube, that looks like a 2001 initial model with the component and composite ports connected.
FMecha 5/27/2018 2:00 PM
`* Stock Car Racing // build date - Version - 0.465 Pre-Alpha.. CD Info : Burn Date - 28/03/2000 ~ @ offset 00058D70 -- this is either old text for the pre-alpha version of the game or this game really was released as a pre-alpha two years after this date`
2:00 PM
I posted a text dump in the forums, looks like it's from Mile Miglia (same dev)
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:01 PM
@divingkxt it's a very rare photo (only one i have and i can't even remember where I got it) of a early Wii devkit in a GC case notice the bigger side grills
2:01 PM
they did this behind the scenes at e3 2006
divingkxt 5/27/2018 2:04 PM
Oh.
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:05 PM
here's the rarest and earliest seen gamecube controller prototype, while several versions before this exist according to the SDK, this and the subsequent one (the subsequent one being the most commonly seen one) are the only versions that have been publicly shown (aside from variations on those versions) this is the "DS4" controller model
2:06 PM
the 3/4 sticker means it's intended for devkits that run at 3/4 cpu speed
2:10 PM
a very early AGB (GBA) prototype board with no screen
2:11 PM
bunch of obscure NFR wii discs (i own 2, 2 have been dumped)
------ 5/27/2018 2:14 PM
That Activison box though.
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:14 PM
left to right, top to bottom: discupdate, not obtained by any of us, not dumped. as one could infer from the label, probably updates the system to 3.0, although exactly how it does this is unknown pinkfish, widely dumped and known, one i own moviech, the big one that we had to handle and the other one i own, there was a lot of hype around it but it basically just installs the wii internet demo video channel with a modified SDK tool mii support discs, nobody has any goddamn idea; one of us has one, but it's deeply intentionally scratched for data destruction rvt wmi disc, not sure why it's mixed in with these (edited)
------ 5/27/2018 2:15 PM
Idea on the Mii support discs, is it possible they're for early/pre release consoles?
2:16 PM
Seems they're for specific games, wonder if they just install a handful of Miis for dev builds on consoles that didn't have the Mii Channel or something
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:16 PM
if they were, it's not likely we'd have them; moviech is from 2008 and it's the version of the backup disc there which was dumped in 2008, since the discupdate is 3.0 which is also around 2008 i'd presume these discs are all from around that time
2:16 PM
also, the startup disc installs the mii channel, so even the earliest retail consoles would have it
2:17 PM
there is something that they're more likely used for
2:17 PM
there's a rarely seen error message in the wii system menu
2:17 PM
complaining about corrupt mii channel data
2:17 PM
it's likely to fix that
2:17 PM
although none of us can wrap our head around the multiple wii sports/wii play versions
------ 5/27/2018 2:18 PM
Yeah the fact they're labeled for specific games is what made me think they're a patch disc or something.
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:18 PM
my best guess is that wii sports and play are known to mangle mii data in some cases in particular ways, and these discs are meant to fix that with a method per game
Hiccup 5/27/2018 2:19 PM
for use in nintendo repair centres, presumably? (edited)
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:19 PM
yeah
2:19 PM
although the source of these discs is weird
2:19 PM
since they came bundled with an rvt disc
2:19 PM
decidedly not for repair centers
------ 5/27/2018 2:19 PM
Either that or there is some exploit/glitch with Mii support in those games?
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:19 PM
and there's a box saying activision lol
Hiccup 5/27/2018 2:20 PM
its just a collector doing what a collector does
------ 5/27/2018 2:20 PM
I'm not huge on Mii stuff so not sure if there is anything special with those two
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:20 PM
@Hiccup you know these were sold on an online shop, right
2:20 PM
this is a picture from the shop
------ 5/27/2018 2:20 PM
Do you know what the shop is?
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:20 PM
gamedealdaily
Hiccup 5/27/2018 2:20 PM
so they were sold as one item, or sold in the same category?
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:20 PM
they sell moviech and backup disc for $20 each
2:20 PM
they sold out of the others
2:21 PM
you can own a formerly extremely rare nfr wii disc for only $20
divingkxt 5/27/2018 2:21 PM
Well, you have a bigger prototype collection than what I have.
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:22 PM
also, this is the craziest picture I have, and nobody seems to care about it or believe its origins
2:22 PM
this is legit news article creating shit, i just havent seen people who actually care lol
------ 5/27/2018 2:22 PM
https://gamedealdaily.com/product/legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess-kiosk-demo-disc/
mfriel
Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess Kiosk Demo Disc + 2 Bonus Discs
2:22 PM
This says it comes with two of those discs... curious to see what they'd give you
divingkxt 5/27/2018 2:22 PM
@Kelton Was that bought from Washington?
2:22 PM
Like, that state of Washington?
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:22 PM
it's also an exclusive picture, was sent it by a person on a website and told not to release it but i'm not good at obedience lol
2:22 PM
i know the story behind it
2:22 PM
basically
divingkxt 5/27/2018 2:23 PM
but i'm not good at obedience
2:23 PM
Good luck getting a job.
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:23 PM
k thanks for the life advice i already know i'm very mentally ill and dysfunctional
2:23 PM
in 2000-2001 when they were still using DDH gc devkits with ethernet jacks that motion controller proto was sent to a few studios including EA it got out from EA into the hands of a collector
------ 5/27/2018 2:23 PM
If it was posted publically i'd say fair game, PM keep it private.
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:24 PM
the latter
2:24 PM
`i already know i'm very mentally ill and dysfunctional`
2:25 PM
`its double the size of a stardard remote and takes 4 batteries and the battery pack is removable no nunchuck and seems like it takes a phone line cable for some sort of hookup`
2:26 PM
"If this was definitely for GameCube/Wii, then it must have been an early sample because it does not fit with the description of any of the Revolution Dev Controllers. I think that it is a bit odd that it has a phone jack. Only the early DDH systems used phone jacks, the later models had GC controller ports. Plus most developers used GDEV's by the time the Revolution controllers where being developed. Why would Nintendo make a Revolution sample controller that is only for use on very early GameCube dev hardware? That does not make a lot of sense. The only real logical reason that I can think of is that this controller was originally intended as a GameCube peripheral long before Wii was even considered, whilst developers where still using the early DDH systems. Some other member on here said that he believes he remembers seeing a GameCube SDK RoadMap that suggested that the GameCube was going to get a controller much like what the Wii ended up getting. So it is very possible that this is a sample of a controller that was originally intended to be a GameCube only peripheral, but Nintendo decided to save it and use it as the selling point of their next console (Wii). Obviously this is just speculation."
divingkxt 5/27/2018 2:27 PM
It would make a lot more sense if it was from very early on in the system's prototyping cycle.
2:27 PM
Like around 2003-2004.
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:27 PM
also, if you think above is bad, just be glad I've resisted talking about the current gen stuff I have
2:28 PM
@divingkxt you know about the wiimote proto sent to factor 5 in 2000, right this is presumably the same thing
2:28 PM
the DDH hookups are the era tipoff
2:28 PM
only DDH early devkits used those hookups
2:28 PM
would be completely out of use by 03-04
divingkxt 5/27/2018 2:28 PM
Oh, Factor 5 got a Wiimote proto in 2000?
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:28 PM
yeah
divingkxt 5/27/2018 2:28 PM
Not 2005?
2:28 PM
Because that is intriguing.
FMecha 5/27/2018 2:29 PM
Early Ridge Racer V HUD? I might get the PS Festival 2000 demo and investigate it
2:29 PM
Might have same HUD as this one
Kelton 5/27/2018 2:34 PM
wii dev cycle (i'd link to my wiki but it's down atm ): late 90s, motion controller is conceived and early protos made for n64, in-development GC, etc 2000, above prototype is released to select third parties 2001, nintendo comes up with blue ocean strategy for next system and begins conceiving it, new system and controller project are completely separate at this point 2002-2003, nintendo continues to work on their new console and the controller project simultaneously but not together, gyropod is invented in 2003 2004, projects merge and controller starts entering phase of design where it takes the shape we know of today (but not before insane protos, the photo with the star controller is from early 2004) and by the end of 2004 we have a wiimote and nunchuk relatively similar to final; at the same time, over on the console front, things continue to be conceptualized (particularly in the online department) and wii hardware (cpu, gpu, iop) is created in initial versions, early proto boards etc 2005, console hardware development near finalizes and controller hardware goes through internal refinement and a few external design changes, online infrastructure including shop channel is worked on with BroadOn, wii sdk is created from gc sdk fork, talks about wii system menu/channels begin and prototypes developed, in July third parties gain access to the first "wii devkit" which is just a wiimote prototype for the gamecube and the docs/libs for it (we have this) 2006, console hw finalizes, wiimote continues to go through internal/external changes, software development continues and finalizes, IOS reaches RC, everything finishes up and releases
EdTheNerd 5/27/2018 3:03 PM
I mean, reusing the prior hardware isnt shocking. They have a pattern of this
3:04 PM
Hell the switch started off with controller prototypes connected Wii U hardware
divingkxt 5/27/2018 3:16 PM
@punk7890 https://tcrf.net/Fushigi_no_Dungeon:_Fuurai_no_Shiren_2:_Oni_Shuurai!_Shiren-jou!
3:17 PM
Requesting a code here.
Kelton 5/27/2018 3:20 PM
@EdTheNerd They had no reason not to reuse gc hardware for wii, they wanted to make it as cheap and easy to develop for for GC devs as possible
divingkxt 5/27/2018 3:23 PM
(That's pretty much what Ed was saying, RedBees)
3:24 PM
Of course, they made it really easy to make shovelware in the process. What with them using regular-ish DVDs rather than the mini-DVDs.
------ 5/27/2018 3:24 PM
Quick Q: are these discs always identical to retail? (Ignore the games in the photo, I just lifted the first one from ebay)
divingkxt 5/27/2018 3:27 PM
Usually, but sometimes you can find unreleased games.
------ 5/27/2018 3:27 PM
Eh, I'm targetting a specific game mostly... trying to find a pre-release build of Guitar Hero 80s
3:28 PM
I've noticed some differences in the note charts of songs, some minor (a few notes changed), some completely recharted, along with a removed song... so i'm trying to find my own version to research more lol
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/27/2018 3:28 PM
nice
divingkxt 5/27/2018 3:30 PM
I believe those are review copies for the PAL region.
------ 5/27/2018 3:31 PM
Yeah, i'm just curious what "stage" the game will be in for them
divingkxt 5/27/2018 3:45 PM
"YOU HAVE REACHED THE HIDDEN STAGE! "
3:46 PM
found in Yar's Revenge - The Quotile Ultimatum
Nana-Chan 5/27/2018 4:35 PM
I recall wii remotes being rumored to allow interchangeable joysticks.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 5:20 PM
https://tcrf.net/Big_Red_Racing
Big Red Racing
5:20 PM
Boosh.
5:20 PM
Quick article written up. Feel free to correct as needed.
Jacob 5/27/2018 5:25 PM
Shesez anyone?
divingkxt 5/27/2018 5:31 PM
Ah yes, he has a Discord, doesn't he.
5:32 PM
A couple of his finds are on the wiki.
5:32 PM
But we've never collaborated with him (at least not directly).
Kelton 5/27/2018 5:38 PM
divingkxt 5/27/2018 5:38 PM
Man, that privacy policy meme is getting real old already.
Deleted User 5/27/2018 5:52 PM
Why is it a problem anyhow
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:02 PM
@Deleted User 'Cause every site is obliged to show that message.
6:03 PM
Especially sites collecting data on users based in the EU.
Deleted User 5/27/2018 6:04 PM
Zombo.com is updating its privacy policy
6:04 PM
there am i cool now
DarthDubඞ 5/27/2018 6:08 PM
probably get better luck having a patreon/gofundme
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:09 PM
Yes, Wimpy/NPZMan is still trying to scam people.
6:09 PM
Not a well-adjusted person, to put it mildly.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 6:15 PM
what firmware is affected?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/27/2018 6:16 PM
>and permanently destroy the devices with a single command
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 6:16 PM
DD-WRT too?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/27/2018 6:16 PM
please stop
darkwitchclaire 5/27/2018 6:16 PM
Wimpy is NPZMan? He had quite a reputation on AG
GerbilSoft 5/27/2018 6:16 PM
`Linksys E1200 Linksys E2500 Linksys WRVS4400N Mikrotik RouterOS for Cloud Core Routers: Versions 1016, 1036, and 1072 Netgear DGN2200 Netgear R6400 Netgear R7000 Netgear R8000 Netgear WNR1000 Netgear WNR2000 QNAP TS251 QNAP TS439 Pro Other QNAP NAS devices running QTS software TP-Link R600VPN`
6:16 PM
FBI is advising everyone to reboot their router regardless
Deleted User 73f1c0b5 5/27/2018 6:16 PM
good thing i use my phone
Pasta937 5/27/2018 6:16 PM
Same
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 6:16 PM
not affected then…
6:16 PM
MIPS+DD-WRT ftw (edited)
GW9 5/27/2018 6:18 PM
Shoot
Deleted User 73f1c0b5 5/27/2018 6:19 PM
well i was gonna write stop but then it turned into stoned
6:20 PM
is there any proof of this malware actually existing or is it just some more anti russia bullshit because liberals cant believe they lost the election
6:21 PM
Sure but i mean like
6:21 PM
has anyone outside of the government and related facilities documented this?
GW9 5/27/2018 6:22 PM
Hmm where can I find the model name?
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:22 PM
"Most of the devices targeted are known to use default credentials and/or have known exploits, particularly for older versions."
Deleted User 73f1c0b5 5/27/2018 6:22 PM
so there is no "real" threat then
6:23 PM
its only for people using outdated hardware or the default password
GW9 5/27/2018 6:23 PM
Like what kind of outdated models are they talking about?
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:23 PM
https://www.symantec.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/vpnfilter-iot-malware
VPNFilter: New Router Malware with Destructive Capabilities
Unlike most other IoT threats, malware can survive reboot.
6:23 PM
Read this, specifically "What devices are known to be affected by VPNFilter?"
GW9 5/27/2018 6:24 PM
Where can I find the model name?
6:24 PM
On the device
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:24 PM
There will usually be a sticker on the back side of the device or underneath it.
GW9 5/27/2018 6:24 PM
I'm doing it just in case
6:25 PM
Does unplugging it and replugging it work?
GerbilSoft 5/27/2018 6:25 PM
late but
6:25 PM
`[2:17 PM] RedBees: there's a rarely seen error message in the wii system menu [2:17 PM] RedBees: complaining about corrupt mii channel data`
6:25 PM
didn't see this in the system menu, but i think i saw a mii data error when booting metroid prime trilogy on my RVT-H
6:26 PM
probably because system menu wasn't booted
6:26 PM
or installed
6:26 PM
so nothing ever created the mii data
GW9 5/27/2018 6:27 PM
I have a CGN2-RPS.
6:28 PM
IDK if that is a new model or a model at risk. I believe it's a Hiltron CGN2-RPS.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:30 PM
@GW9 Yes.
GW9 5/27/2018 6:31 PM
To the risk?
6:31 PM
Or to my previous comment?
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:31 PM
"Does unplugging it and replugging it work?"
GW9 5/27/2018 6:31 PM
Oh.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:32 PM
I wouldn't say it's for obselete devices, but it's definitely for some of the more common devices.
punk7890 5/27/2018 6:33 PM
@divingkxt Sure. I'll note it down.
GW9 5/27/2018 6:33 PM
Alright.
6:33 PM
Honestly I thought you were going to say no.
6:35 PM
I think my family is going to think that the signal was poor for a few seconds there.
6:37 PM
Oh. Also the router password...
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:38 PM
If it's not the default password, you're good.
GW9 5/27/2018 6:39 PM
Oh.
6:39 PM
Factory default or personal default?
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:39 PM
Either.
6:42 PM
Also, the hackers behind this attack are Fancy Bear, speculated to be part of the GRU/MID (Main Intelligence Directorate) of Russia.
tape 5/27/2018 6:47 PM
i'm not really knowledgeable in any of this so is the router password the password used to connect a device to the router with or is that something else
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:48 PM
The password used to gain access to the router.
tape 5/27/2018 6:49 PM
like, administrative stuff?
Laenthor 5/27/2018 6:50 PM
Who doea it affect?
6:51 PM
Hmm, read above and if I'm not using the default password I should be safe?
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:52 PM
@Laenthor Here's a listed of some of the devices affected.
6:52 PM
Yes, if you don't use the default PW, you're safe.
Laenthor 5/27/2018 6:52 PM
I'm safe then. I assume that these are all older models?
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:53 PM
@tape Yes, if it can access the administrative stuff, then the malware will install itself.
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 6:53 PM
so basically the malware is targeted towards people who didn't set up their router?
6:53 PM
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:54 PM
Well, those who set up their routers, but didn't change the PW for whatever reason.
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 6:54 PM
scrubs
6:54 PM
so I'm fine
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:55 PM
im gonna have to wait, what, 9 hours to be able to change this one's password
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 6:55 PM
well do you have the stock password?
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:55 PM
yeah
6:55 PM
its not one of the routers listed
6:55 PM
but i wanna be sure
punk7890 5/27/2018 6:56 PM
hmm I have stock password as well, but each model has a different default password.
GW9 5/27/2018 6:56 PM
Oh stock passwords.
6:56 PM
Heck no. We already have a custom password.
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:56 PM
ive changed the password on my home router
6:56 PM
but this one...
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 6:57 PM
also, all of these discord warnings
Jhynjhiruu 5/27/2018 6:57 PM
discord is a pretty good way to spread news, tbh
GW9 5/27/2018 6:57 PM
Yeah
6:57 PM
Especially news like this
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 6:57 PM
"don't accept this person's friend requests" "this guy is selling fake prototypes and is a scammer" "there's router malware"
6:58 PM
lots of warnings
GW9 5/27/2018 6:59 PM
Well, technology is frail.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 6:59 PM
And that's part of the issue.
6:59 PM
When some info is given that a foreign actor is involved, there's not much proof given that a foreign actor was involved.
7:00 PM
i.e. Code signatures, strings, random bits of data left behind
GW9 5/27/2018 7:01 PM
Yeah. Curious of what the motive is.
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 7:02 PM
they're just trying to find your po-..
7:02 PM
never mind (edited)
GW9 5/27/2018 7:02 PM
Most likely stealing documents and identities, given that most major institutions have those models.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 7:02 PM
Well, it's named VPNFilter.
7:03 PM
It's likely a trick malware, but the problem is that there isn't much screenshot evidence of this (since it's running directly on the router).
7:04 PM
And moreover, relies on a Photobucket connection to a particular account, which has hidden EXIF data in it. (edited)
leogorerd 5/27/2018 7:05 PM
motive is probably a botnet
divingkxt 5/27/2018 7:05 PM
Exactly what I was thinking.
TheMonkeyBob 5/27/2018 7:16 PM
I wish I could change the password on my router, but that top notch Telus firmware always reverts the password after a few minutes.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 7:17 PM
Bet people wish they could move from Telus if they could.
TheMonkeyBob 5/27/2018 7:18 PM
Hell yeah
GW9 5/27/2018 7:21 PM
How long should I unplug/replug?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 7:24 PM
I want malware to destroy my router
GW9 5/27/2018 7:24 PM
Why?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 7:24 PM
so we can buy new one >:)
Dezent 5/27/2018 7:25 PM
Use a hammer, and strike it "accidentally"
GW9 5/27/2018 7:27 PM
If anything, place an empty cup on the ground in a way that looks like you tripped over it and toss it out the window.
7:27 PM
I don't think a hammer would look "accidental" without a reason to use it.
Dezent 5/27/2018 7:27 PM
Place it on the ground, trip on it knee first, say you stumbled on the wires and it flew and broke (edited)
GW9 5/27/2018 7:29 PM
Better yet, "trip" it into the trash can directly.
7:29 PM
I'm still thinking of a good excuse to justify it, though...
Dezent 5/27/2018 7:30 PM
Use a lighter near the ventilation grills, make it look like it started to overheat and melted
LarryLemmy 5/27/2018 7:35 PM
This reminds me of when I used to attack my router in a fit of rage as an angst ridden 13 year old when it didn't work properly
Dezent 5/27/2018 7:35 PM
Ah yes the ol percussive maintenance
leogorerd 5/27/2018 7:44 PM
you could purposefuly mess up an update and brick it
old acc! inactive 5/27/2018 8:06 PM
fuckin russian hackers at it again
Glisp 5/27/2018 8:33 PM
@divingkxt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxSxosSvdXg
Morrowind Modding Showcases
Skyrim - Realms of the West Trailer - A Morrowind Mod
8:33 PM
Morrowind modding at some of its finest
punk7890 5/27/2018 8:38 PM
@divingkxt I made a code for that game, didn't look at it much but the debug map should hopefully be in there. I guess I'll throw it on a notes page.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 8:38 PM
Thank you.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 8:50 PM
"Beyond: Two Souls: Uncensored in Russia & US. Censored in Europe for violence. " ?
punk7890 5/27/2018 8:55 PM
https://tcrf.net/Notes:Fushigi_no_Dungeon:_Fuurai_no_Shiren_2:_Oni_Shuurai!_Shiren-jou!
Notes:Fushigi no Dungeon: Fuurai no Shiren 2: Oni Shuurai! Shiren-jou!
8:55 PM
hopefully it is there somewhere with those codes
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/27/2018 8:59 PM
YALL
8:59 PM
i just realized
8:59 PM
from this interview (edited)
8:59 PM
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/08/01/marching-to-the-beat-of-their-own-drum-an-interview-with-the-creators-of-patapon/
Marching to the Beat of Their Own Drum — An Interview with the C...
8:59 PM
8:59 PM
9:00 PM
sony has their own plastic water bottles
9:00 PM
that might not seem like a big deal to anyone here but. that means theres a place sony makes these (edited)
9:01 PM
what the fuck
divingkxt 5/27/2018 9:02 PM
That would mean Sony has some water plant or other. Alternatively, a contractor was farmed out to make these.
DarthDubඞ 5/27/2018 9:02 PM
the ps3 isn't the reason they bled money, it's the water bottles /s (edited)
Neko May 5/27/2018 9:04 PM
It's just some water company's standard product with a custom label.
9:04 PM
Most bottles in Japan are square.
Halfbit 5/27/2018 9:06 PM
Interesting
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 9:12 PM
watermelons in japan are square
Halfbit 5/27/2018 9:13 PM
Knew that
divingkxt 5/27/2018 9:13 PM
Ergonomic reasons.
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 9:13 PM
SQUARE WATERMELONS
9:13 PM
i need that
DarthDubඞ 5/27/2018 9:14 PM
unused square watermelons in games
Halfbit 5/27/2018 9:14 PM
Don’t be square
divingkxt 5/27/2018 9:15 PM
@MysticSageJosh Grow some watermelons in boxes.
Splitwirez 5/27/2018 9:15 PM
Minecraft has cubical watermelons
9:15 PM
...they aren't unused though
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 9:16 PM
unused round watermelons in minecraft (edited)
Splitwirez 5/27/2018 9:17 PM
O-O
9:17 PM
...doesn't Super Mario Galaxy have unused cube...bubbles? .-.
smubear 5/27/2018 9:45 PM
hey guys im new to the tcrf discord and all that but ive been lurkin on the wiki for some time lol
9:45 PM
i just found something and im not sure if its been discovered before
9:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wdo8kwP5b0 (edited)
Smubear
(Old?) Xbox Startup
9:46 PM
a different startup video to the original xbox
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/27/2018 9:47 PM
ive never seen it
darkwitchclaire 5/27/2018 9:52 PM
Is that different from what plays when you put an Xbox game in a normal DVD player?
9:53 PM
Nope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQJJMsPl6Q
videogames4u2see
Putting an XBOX Game into a PS2 System
smubear 5/27/2018 10:00 PM
so not new?
10:01 PM
hm
10:01 PM
ok
10:01 PM
thanks
10:01 PM
i got the screen with the text too
10:02 PM
10:02 PM
i guess you just get this crap when you try to put xbox games into other things, hence why i could see it without an iso rip or some crap
10:02 PM
speaking of which how tf u rip an iso
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 10:22 PM
@smubear ripping iso is ez
10:23 PM
you can just use imgburn
smubear 5/27/2018 10:23 PM
kthx
10:23 PM
got a link for that?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 10:23 PM
http://www.imgburn.com/
The Official ImgBurn Website
ImgBurn is a lightweight CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application that everyone should have in their toolkit... and it's free!
smubear 5/27/2018 10:24 PM
thanks
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 10:24 PM
It can: make iso, write iso(better spport than windows), file write(better).
10:25 PM
also build valid iso
smubear 5/27/2018 10:25 PM
whats a valid iso
10:25 PM
something that can be put back on a disk?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 10:25 PM
yea
smubear 5/27/2018 10:25 PM
aight
10:26 PM
im downloadin
10:28 PM
sneaky thing tried to get me to use yahoo
10:28 PM
not today
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/27/2018 10:28 PM
true
smubear 5/27/2018 10:30 PM
ok cool now i can rip spongebob movie game hopefully
10:35 PM
i did something wrong i think
10:36 PM
10:36 PM
its just this
10:36 PM
the same stuff i saw before
10:36 PM
no fun
10:37 PM
ill mess with it tomorrow i guess
felineki 5/27/2018 10:44 PM
I'm woking on Huitzil's sprites again, and I think there are still lots of unused parts here. Like his pelvis has a lot of angles that don't seem to be used anywhere.
10:45 PM
Like this almost-front-view
10:46 PM
Or these 3/4 back views.
10:48 PM
I still think Huitzil should be TCRF's mascot, I mean I just keep finding more and more and more unused material for this one character. :p (edited)
Neko May 5/27/2018 10:49 PM
Nah, our mascot is the cactus texture from SM64
10:50 PM
That or the smiley face from SMB2
10:50 PM
10:50 PM
Though creepysexy Ms. Pac-Man is trying to muscle her way in
10:50 PM
1
felineki 5/27/2018 10:50 PM
I don't recall this 3/4 back view shoulder being used anywhere either.
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 10:51 PM
Psycho Mantis reading your memory card is awesome, but imagine psycho mantis reading your browser history
10:52 PM
that'd be terrifying
Neko May 5/27/2018 10:52 PM
You have a chance to just skip the battle depending on what's found (edited)
10:53 PM
"Oh.... oh wait.... fuck this shit, I'm out of here."
10:53 PM
lol
Halfbit 5/27/2018 10:53 PM
What happens if Pschomantis detects a certain save?
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 10:53 PM
"Ah, i see that you.."
10:53 PM
"like..."
10:54 PM
"JESUS CHRIST WHAT IS THIS"
Neko May 5/27/2018 10:54 PM
lol
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 10:55 PM
"WHAT IS THIS!?! YOU'RE MAKING ME WISH I COULDN'T READ MINDS!"
felineki 5/27/2018 10:56 PM
You know, since Sentinel in Children of the Atom is built in a similiar method to Huitzil, I wonder if he has any unused parts. I do know from the debug menu that he has both crouching and standing versions of both the mouth missile and mouth laser set up, although in-game you can only use the laser while standing and the missile while crouching. (edited)
divingkxt 5/27/2018 10:57 PM
@smubear That Xbox video is in every single Xbox game.
10:58 PM
It occupies the first 14 MB or so of every game and has a sector dedicated to it, so that regular DVD players don't attempt to read the other pieces of data on the disk.
Neko May 5/27/2018 10:59 PM
nods
10:59 PM
Similar to the audio track on Dreamcast discs
divingkxt 5/27/2018 10:59 PM
Yes.
10:59 PM
That's exactly its purpose.
MysticSageJosh 5/27/2018 11:00 PM
also a similar thing to xbox 360
divingkxt 5/27/2018 11:00 PM
Also helps it distinguish itself as a legit game.
Halfbit 5/27/2018 11:00 PM
Reminds me of the GB bios, how every game has part of the bios (edited)
Neko May 5/27/2018 11:02 PM
Most disc-based sysyems have that. I think the Playstation is the only one that didn't.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 11:02 PM
@smubear I used your video here: https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Common_Things#Anti-Piracy
The Cutting Room Floor:Common Things
Neko May 5/27/2018 11:03 PM
Sony was more concerned about having their ATIP-based copy protection.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 11:03 PM
That is to say, they didn't even bother with a movie for PS3 and PS4 discs.
Neko May 5/27/2018 11:04 PM
Possibly because they couldn't
11:04 PM
Since they double as Blu-Ray players
divingkxt 5/27/2018 11:04 PM
Eh, they could have.
11:04 PM
Xbox 360 doubles as a DVD player.
Neko May 5/27/2018 11:04 PM
My guess is Sony was too incompetent to do it.
divingkxt 5/27/2018 11:04 PM
Very possibly.
11:05 PM
As the original Xbox and the 360 dedicate whole sectors to the movie,
11:05 PM
with the remaining being formatted such that regular PCs struggle to interpret it and so just stop attempting to read the disc after the movie.
Neko May 5/27/2018 11:06 PM
Right
divingkxt 5/27/2018 11:07 PM
I remember getting Halo 3 on the 360, but I had a PS3.
11:07 PM
That was fun times.
Neko May 5/27/2018 11:08 PM
Heh
f(x)^3 5/27/2018 11:13 PM
@MysticSageJosh ISPs here (Ontario, Canada) decide to just set up your router, but usually leave the password as `password`
11:13 PM
In the administration settings that is
11:13 PM
I've been able to log into multiple routers from my ISP with `user:cusadmin password:password` (edited)
caff!!! 5/27/2018 11:20 PM
At&t's newer boxes have passwords that depend on a label on hardware
11:21 PM
Older ones, well, not so much
11:21 PM
3rd party stuff is even worse
Neko May 5/27/2018 11:28 PM
Third party at least can't be accessed and reset at will by ISP backdoors.
11:29 PM
Also, a lot of third party routers now come with randomly generated passwords burned in and printed on a sticker.
Δndrew P. 5/27/2018 11:29 PM
My router was already shit so
11:30 PM
I just use phone hotspot 24/7 now
Spyro 2025 5/27/2018 11:41 PM
Keep up @everyone the video game research on TCRF
11:41 PM
I ❤ TCRF
GerbilSoft 5/27/2018 11:46 PM
[11:00 PM] Halfbit: Reminds me of the GB bios, how every game has part of the bios(edited)
11:46 PM
they do?
Revenant 5/27/2018 11:47 PM
the logo
GerbilSoft 5/27/2018 11:48 PM
oh
11:48 PM
not exactly part of the bios per se
11:48 PM
also if the logo is wrong, it'll hang after the boot screen (edited)
11:48 PM
....with some exceptions
smubear 5/27/2018 11:55 PM
oh @divingkxt thats cool and thanks for using the video
11:55 PM
also
11:55 PM
does anyone know how to get past just these videos on the disk drive?
11:56 PM
i know theres more in there but i cant see anything
11:56 PM
plus, the spongebob movie game doesn't even have atcrf page (yet) and i want to see what kinda stuff is in there
Smoke 5/27/2018 11:57 PM
The first one?
divingkxt 5/27/2018 11:58 PM
Yeah.
11:58 PM
As for viewing stuff in the disk drive...
11:58 PM
Uh..that's gonna be tricky without dd or using the Xbox and setting up an FTP.
11:59 PM
The latter is how many of the Xbox Original games were ripped.
smubear 5/27/2018 11:59 PM
ive got an xbox
11:59 PM
but how in the heck are you supposed to set up an ftp on it?
12:00 AM
and whats "dd"?
12:00 AM
im new to this so im sorry if im asking stupidly simple questions
12:00 AM
lol
divingkxt 5/28/2018 12:01 AM
https://forums.afterdawn.com/threads/tutorial-how-to-ftp-in-to-your-xbox.375413/
Tutorial: How to FTP in to your Xbox
An Easy Way To FTP To Your Xbox One of the most popular questions in Xbox forums are "How do I FTP to my Xbox?" So I figured I would write the...
smubear 5/28/2018 12:01 AM
cool
divingkxt 5/28/2018 12:01 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
Dd (Unix)
dd is a command-line utility for Unix and Unix-like operating systems whose primary purpose is to convert and copy files. On Unix, device drivers for hardware (such as hard disk drives) and special device files (such as /dev/zero and /dev/random) appear in the file system jus...
smubear 5/28/2018 12:10 AM
which would be your preference personally?
12:10 AM
im guessing the ftp method as whats what you said earlier
12:11 AM
ima go with that since i have an xbox
Neko May 5/28/2018 12:32 AM
Oh. It stands for "copy and convert" but it's "dd" because "cc" is the C compiler.
12:32 AM
TIL
12:33 AM
Though, that may or may not be true
Revenant 5/28/2018 12:55 AM
it's dd because that was the input/output specifier in JCL cards
12:55 AM
which is why it also uses "arg=value" syntax
12:56 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Control_Language#In-stream_input
Job Control Language
Job Control Language (JCL) is a name for scripting languages used on IBM mainframe operating systems to instruct the system on how to run a batch job or start a subsystem. More specifically, the purpose of JCL is to say which programs to run, using which files or devices for...
Neko May 5/28/2018 1:47 AM
That's what Wikipedia says, yeah.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/28/2018 1:50 AM
Nintendo Logo persists on all NDS rom too
1:50 AM
with CRC16 of CC56
TheMonkeyBob 5/28/2018 4:20 AM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174330574816/warioware-inc-midi-data-701-800
Incineroar 5/28/2018 4:54 AM
Yeah, [ and ] are used by mid2agb to insert the loop information. You can insert them using Anvil Studio
4:55 AM
They also kept this for all the proprietary sequence formats on every following console
4:55 AM
DS, Wii, Wii U, 3DS, and probably Switch
CheetahPixie 5/28/2018 5:01 AM
Okay lads.
5:01 AM
I think this is the best place for it.
5:02 AM
But: What consoles have ONLY one D pad and four total buttons? (Not face buttons; this is action buttons, shoulders and start+select. Only four of those total.)
5:02 AM
I mean, I know the GBC and the OGB and the NES, but those are the only ones.
5:02 AM
Are there any others?
TheMonkeyBob 5/28/2018 5:02 AM
I have found that sometimes there is note data after the ] marker
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/28/2018 5:03 AM
>OGB
Deleted User 5/28/2018 5:28 AM
Literally all I did for my router is just disconnect it for about 30 seconds then reconnected it
5:29 AM
Even though mine's just a Netgear WNDR3700v4 i still did it
punk7890 5/28/2018 5:41 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1001035317355282432
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a couple of unused maps in Virtua Fighter 4 (PS2) https://t.co/fB7reqnBZs The first map is internally named DEBUG STAGE. All it has is a city background, with no floor. This also occupies 4 other map IDs. The second one is unknown. It's named VIP STAGE.
5:41 AM
2
4
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/28/2018 5:58 AM
nice!
kyoobqa 5/28/2018 7:31 AM
Has anyone looked into the final version of Battlefield 4 yet?
7:31 AM
I haven't seen any documentation on the leftovers.
Deleted User 5/28/2018 8:10 AM
@Revenant
vervalkon 5/28/2018 8:21 AM
revenant is a saint
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/28/2018 8:40 AM
8:40 AM
I found VAB sound test in Simple 1500 series Vol.52 The Pro Wrestling 2.
optiroc 5/28/2018 8:45 AM
@togemet2 I may be able to help out
Stewie1.0 5/28/2018 9:54 AM
I have Future Tone DX's files dumped
9:55 AM
They left in more Diva Arcade stuff than regular Future Tone
Klitlika 5/28/2018 9:56 AM
FMecha 5/28/2018 10:06 AM
>register for Legends of Modding forums >not approved yet
goat 5/28/2018 11:01 AM
romfs and exefs modification on the switch is so close
Rena 5/28/2018 12:27 PM
Re: Xbox video partition, that "feature" kinda bit MS in the butt
12:28 PM
When the 360 drive started to wear out, often it would read the disc but fail to recognize it as a game
12:28 PM
So it would assume it's a DVD movie, and play the video telling you to put the disc in an Xbox 360.
12:29 PM
Obviously a lot of people were confused when they were being told that by an Xbox 360.
Neko May 5/28/2018 12:34 PM
You mean the original XBox. That was the one that used the terrible Thomson DVD drives.
Rena 5/28/2018 12:37 PM
360 did it too
12:38 PM
Happened to my dad several times
GerbilSoft 5/28/2018 2:51 PM
today's gbatemp https://gbatemp.net/threads/trying-to-run-backups.505500/
Trying to run backups
So Ive gotten as far as my game showing in home menu but get this error when trying to run 2347-0007 searched all over cant find any info on the error...
2:51 PM
14 pages of a guy pretending to be writing a backup loader
EdTheNerd 5/28/2018 3:10 PM
lol
3:11 PM
we had an issue in RS with someone with a username of "4chan" saying "something" was coming
3:11 PM
of course, its also in /hbg/ and they're talking up some loader
3:11 PM
their raid never happened because of course
3:12 PM
they later claimed that same error in /hbg/ as the reason to call off their little fun
3:12 PM
today was pretty stupid overall lol
smubear 5/28/2018 4:37 PM
i still cant ftp my xbox
4:37 PM
smh
4:39 PM
im no good at networking either so im probably missing something extremely simple
4:39 PM
hmmmmmmmmm
4:41 PM
how does dd work anyways? might try that if i cant figure this out
smubear 5/28/2018 4:56 PM
i figured it out
4:56 PM
i need a fricken crossover cable
4:56 PM
duh
4:56 PM
welp time to go buy one lol
GerbilSoft 5/28/2018 4:59 PM
...if you have gigabit Ethernet on your PC, it should be autocrossover
smubear 5/28/2018 5:04 PM
my xbox isnt softmodded either so that also may be an issue
5:05 PM
im using my laptop to mod and i have no idea if its got gigabit on it, but im fairly sure my main pc does
5:06 PM
@GerbilSoft do you have to get something like unleash x in order to ftp to an xbox, even with a crossover or gigabit ethernet? or would a regular xbox work ok with that?
GerbilSoft 5/28/2018 5:07 PM
I don't know
smubear 5/28/2018 5:10 PM
I'll just experiment I suppose. only way to figure things out
alan 5/28/2018 5:10 PM
im pretty sure you do need something like unleash x
5:10 PM
unless you are using some other mod of some sorts
smubear 5/28/2018 5:10 PM
but not vanilla, right?
alan 5/28/2018 5:10 PM
vanilla wont work
smubear 5/28/2018 5:11 PM
oof
5:11 PM
alright time to get moddin so that I can ftp so that I can gain access to game files
5:11 PM
all in hopes that there's something new
5:12 PM
yeet
smubear 5/28/2018 6:53 PM
just found out about sid installer boi would that have been useful earlier
Neko May 5/28/2018 7:15 PM
dd if=<devicefile> of=<filename>
smubear 5/28/2018 8:27 PM
is that a windows command
8:29 PM
8:29 PM
guess not
ゲームボーイ64 5/28/2018 8:30 PM
nope, linux
smubear 5/28/2018 8:31 PM
would it work if i connected a usb disk drive to a raspberry pi
8:32 PM
and ran dd on an xbox disk
8:32 PM
well i guess id need a pi for that.... mines bricked
8:33 PM
ill just keep trying to get an ftp on the xbox
8:33 PM
immaking progress
8:33 PM
i need to get some stuff tho, like a usb to bxox cable and a crossover cable but besides that i think im good
Deleted User 5/28/2018 8:52 PM
dd.exe
334 KB
8:52 PM
windows equivalent
Neko May 5/28/2018 8:58 PM
Unix command, actually, but as @Deleted User has posted, there's a Windows port.
smubear 5/28/2018 9:45 PM
idk
9:45 PM
also thanks @Deleted User
Deleted User 5/28/2018 10:14 PM
np
divingkxt 5/28/2018 11:53 PM
make a .ccd/.img copy with CloneCD and another virtual drive program.
11:53 PM
Oh, that explains that.
11:53 PM
Welp.
smubear 5/29/2018 12:08 AM
im dumb, i thought there was no page for the spongebob movie game
12:08 AM
but there is
12:08 AM
https://tcrf.net/The_SpongeBob_SquarePants_Movie_(GameCube,_PlayStation_2,_Xbox)
The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie (GameCube, PlayStation 2, Xbox)
12:08 AM
im still gonna explore it because nobody can stop me
Deleted User 5/29/2018 12:09 AM
btw .
12:09 AM
i'm actually playing that on an emulator
AnkyloSource 5/29/2018 12:10 AM
I just finished playing movie on a wii(gc) backup (edited)
12:10 AM
pretty good
Deleted User 5/29/2018 12:10 AM
k e w l . (edited)
12:10 AM
but i prefer battle for bikini bottom .
smubear 5/29/2018 12:10 AM
me too
12:11 AM
ive been playing the gamcube version of the movie game on dolphin recently
12:11 AM
but i just played it on xbox today
12:11 AM
and im planning on setting up and ftp to my xbox to access the game files
Deleted User 5/29/2018 12:13 AM
nice .
smubear 5/29/2018 12:15 AM
thanks
12:15 AM
see i know how to ftp, since thats what my home media server works off of
12:15 AM
but ya gotta softmod an xbox in order to do it to an xbox
12:15 AM
custom dashboard
12:15 AM
so once i get 2 things from amazon its moddin time
12:16 AM
to be honest i was surprised they still even make usb to xbox port cables
goat 5/29/2018 12:19 AM
i made mine, and my crossover
12:20 AM
which is impressive as at the time i did not know a god damn thing about soldering, or own a wire stripper
smubear 5/29/2018 12:21 AM
gotdam
12:21 AM
legend
12:21 AM
i just bought one since it was only 5 dollar and on prime (edited)
goat 5/29/2018 12:52 AM
the switch is teetering on the edge of being the true successor to the psp
12:53 AM
it's killin me
Laenthor 5/29/2018 2:14 AM
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Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/29/2018 2:16 AM
celebrates his birthday
Neko May 5/29/2018 2:57 AM
@Hâlian (ping in replies): Happy birthday! ^w^
Hâlian (ping in replies) 5/29/2018 2:57 AM
Thanks ^w^
Dezent 5/29/2018 3:09 AM
Happy birthdayyy!
Nex 5/29/2018 5:17 AM
happeh birthday (edited)
MysticSageJosh 5/29/2018 5:19 AM
merry birfmas
5:19 AM
..i mean.. um
punk7890 5/29/2018 7:01 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1001417065041838080
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks (PS2) https://t.co/ru8JUS2a1w This lets you warp to any level in the game, refill your health, and a few others. It allows you to warp around the current map as well. This also contains several test maps to choose from.
7:01 AM
3
leilei 5/29/2018 7:08 AM
wonder if mdk2 armageddon (PS2)'s debug can be get into
7:08 AM
mdk2 is powered by lua scripts
7:09 AM
and the ps2 version does have debug.lua
7:10 AM
Despite the "-- debug.lua -- -- Do not ship this file. The game must run even if this file -- does not exist." in its header
punk7890 5/29/2018 7:11 AM
I think I looked at that before but didn't see anything debug menu worthy loaded in RAM
leilei 5/29/2018 7:13 AM
usually setting 'debug' and' features' variables to 1 (in lua) enables them (edited)
punk7890 5/29/2018 7:13 AM
where is debug.lua so I know for next time
leilei 5/29/2018 7:14 AM
base.zip
punk7890 5/29/2018 7:14 AM
thanks
7:14 AM
will look at it sometime
leilei 5/29/2018 7:15 AM
it's not a standard zip fyi
7:15 AM
iirc quickbms can get at it
punk7890 5/29/2018 7:15 AM
shouldn't matter much
7:16 AM
assuming the game reads debug.lua at boot
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/29/2018 8:05 AM
did you look at deception already
Borman 5/29/2018 10:16 AM
I think I have some development stuff for deception, need to dive into that more sometime
Nex 5/29/2018 10:18 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/29/2018 10:22 AM
inb4 borman pulls out tecmo's deception
Borman 5/29/2018 10:28 AM
Japanese games are rough
10:29 AM
I did sneak in some Mortal Kombat Deception PSP footage in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSMkKPQ6yVw . From before it was renamed.
PtoPOnline
Street Fighter vs. DC PSP | The Undeveloped Pitch
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/29/2018 10:49 AM
10:49 AM
I found "testing now" scene in Fist (PlayStation)
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TheMonkeyBob 5/29/2018 3:46 PM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174378769821/warioware-inc-midi-data-801-900
Borman 5/29/2018 6:47 PM
Found some Deception stuff https://twitter.com/Borman18/status/1001595157958021120
Andrew Borman (@Borman18)
Found this in some files of mine, a Mortal Kombat Deception HUD mockup from the development process
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punk7890 5/29/2018 7:33 PM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/29/2018 7:35 PM
Sky = Time + Darkness + (aspect)
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/29/2018 8:04 PM
space
TheMonkeyBob 5/29/2018 9:47 PM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174388312411/warioware-inc-midi-data-901-1000
Deleted User 5/29/2018 10:06 PM
i'm bored , some body wunna practice lines for a video or what ever with meh ? - ? .
10:06 PM
or what ever .
divingkxt 5/29/2018 10:07 PM
I'm working on an emulator for PPC Macs.
10:07 PM
Early stages.
Deleted User 5/29/2018 10:07 PM
nice .
10:07 PM
is it bad i can do three things at once ? - ? .
10:08 PM
cause i am - gettin ' prepped for rehearsin ' lines , usin ' software to create mods for mega man maker , other stuff ,
divingkxt 5/29/2018 10:12 PM
Depends on how well you can do it.
10:12 PM
And how you can organize individual jobs.
10:12 PM
Prioritization is important.
Deleted User 5/29/2018 10:15 PM
oh yeh , playin ' PokéMan .
MysticSageJosh 5/29/2018 10:22 PM
a video wtf
☎ 5/30/2018 12:26 AM
https://tcrf.net/Painkiller:_Black_Edition
Painkiller: Black Edition
12:26 AM
Is the layout for this page okay? I feel like I overused tables.
Deleted User 5/30/2018 12:32 AM
it's fine
☎ 5/30/2018 12:56 AM
Thanks, if it can be improved please let me know
goat 5/30/2018 12:57 AM
sciresm is already dumping the new pokemon game
12:58 AM
https://gist.github.com/SciresM/5662114f22927c5a6bb50bb5cab853df this is a tool he wrote to print the encounter table
Encounter Set printer for Pokemon Quest
Encounter Set printer for Pokemon Quest
12:59 AM
it's stock unity so he's ripping it apart like tissue paper
1:02 AM
https://twitter.com/SciresM here's the whole feed of it
Michael (@SciresM)
Pokemon researcher @ https://t.co/pbmhyO7NNu. Console hacker/Horizon OS Prosthelytizer/Boot9Strap & Atmosphère developer. !t.3fxzeyWo. https://t.co/iuYB1HNQDn
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divingkxt 5/30/2018 1:19 AM
@goat There are so many more games written in Unity that really need to be looked into.
goat 5/30/2018 1:19 AM
123 not it
ゲームボーイ64 5/30/2018 1:19 AM
ain't got the HW for it
goat 5/30/2018 1:20 AM
i only look into games that fascinate me and that is kind of rare and the last time it really happened i found out a lot of real dark stuff!
1:22 AM
i got real deep into lisa: the painful to the point of finding out some weird stuff and then lisa: the joyful hit and confirmed all of the worst of it
Netscape Navigator 5/30/2018 2:45 AM
game freak have developed with unity three times now
2:45 AM
at this rate let’s go and Pokémon 2019 will be unity titles
BearyScary 5/30/2018 2:47 AM
Nooo
leilei 5/30/2018 2:47 AM
game freak needs to make more not-pokemon games imo
Netscape Navigator 5/30/2018 2:52 AM
Put Tembo In Sonic R 2
MLagaffe 5/30/2018 4:56 AM
super mario run is in unity, but the assets are encrypted
4:57 AM
that game really needs an offline mod.
punk7890 5/30/2018 5:11 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1001752785354801152
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several debug modes in The Mummy Returns (PS2) https://t.co/8j8SV0xJ5E These mostly activate various information onscreen relating to the player, objects in the map, player statues and many more. There is also an infinite health option as well.
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5:11 AM
statuses
5:12 AM
rip
LarryLemmy 5/30/2018 6:52 AM
This tweet reminded me of something https://twitter.com/_Pokedex_Facts/status/1001773108410318848
Pokedex Facts (@_Pokedex_Facts)
Pac-Man was trying to climb her pole-dancing pole.
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T02my 5/30/2018 7:37 AM
Hello, when can I submit to get an account on TCRF.net?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/30/2018 7:38 AM
#account-requests ^
leilei 5/30/2018 7:39 AM
you can submit any time you want
T02my 5/30/2018 8:10 AM
thx
8:10 AM
will apply someday
Splitwirez 5/30/2018 8:12 AM
Is documenting things as they're found while actively dissecting a game acceptable practice?
Nex 5/30/2018 9:19 AM
don't see anything wrong with that
Splitwirez 5/30/2018 9:20 AM
kgood
9:21 AM
emits a sigh of relief
Nex 5/30/2018 9:21 AM
I did that with dementium 2
Splitwirez 5/30/2018 9:22 AM
kgood...I've been doing it with Spore and Darkspore, but it sort of occurred to me that "oh maybe I should've checked in before doing so...welp, better check in before proceeding in doing so" :P
goat 5/30/2018 1:16 PM
literally no human alive is going to come in and rant about your practices in documenting spore
Splitwirez 5/30/2018 1:56 PM
...kgood. Sorry if I seem overly cautious... .-.
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/30/2018 4:11 PM
so i was playing mario maker and the scrapped moblin from twilight princess is in the official twilight princess hd level
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/30/2018 4:45 PM
nice
4:46 PM
the horn isnt the same though
4:46 PM
or the "nose"
Deleted User 5/30/2018 4:51 PM
oof .
Dribbleondo 5/30/2018 5:39 PM
https://tcrf.net/Go_(Mac_OS_Classic) Who and why...
Go (Mac OS Classic)
leilei 5/30/2018 6:11 PM
good intro
TechWizard 5/30/2018 6:21 PM
Greetings
smubear 5/30/2018 6:24 PM
hello
eientei 5/30/2018 9:04 PM
@Dribbleondo Daxeria, our main Mac OS Classic person
divingkxt 5/30/2018 11:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Abahbob/status/999578985251028992
Matt Hurd (@Abahbob)
Coworkers: "What did you do last night?" Me: "Uh, nothing" In actuality: I found the Winx Club PC Debug Menu
11:38 PM
https://twitter.com/windowstiger/status/998430854148849664
WindowsTiger (@windowstiger)
it looks like nobody found debug menu cheat code of rhythm heaven silver (rhythm tengoku). Whatever 08000454:089ddbcc Here is cheat code.
DarthDubඞ 5/30/2018 11:43 PM
i should follow these felllas
divingkxt 5/30/2018 11:57 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:Game_Over_Early.ogg
File:Game Over Early.ogg
11:57 PM
Can anyone verify where this came from?
11:58 PM
Obviously early version of Super Mario 64, but where's the source material for this?
12:01 AM
i.e. was this sourced from a video, has a prototype magically leaked out and no one noticed, is this from SMWCentral?
divingkxt 5/31/2018 12:44 AM
@sunn So... this is just the final version's music.
Revenant 5/31/2018 12:45 AM
lol
divingkxt 5/31/2018 12:47 AM
Also, uh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSNh1pnnI6Y
GilvaSunner
Give It To Me - 1080° Snowboarding
12:47 AM
I played the JP version through emulation and I don't recall these vocals the slightest.
divingkxt 5/31/2018 1:37 AM
Done.
1:37 AM
Nothing special really.
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 1:46 AM
hmm
1:46 AM
diving can translate japanese?
divingkxt 5/31/2018 1:47 AM
Yeah, but...
1:47 AM
I'm heading off to bed now.
1:48 AM
I'll do some translation stuff tomorrow evening.
1:48 AM
Until then, later.
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 1:58 AM
night
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 4:55 AM
@DarthDubඞ just call me :(
4:56 AM
I'm native Japanese
Dezent 5/31/2018 5:03 AM
Athena is too, right?
Madison 5/31/2018 5:06 AM
I've been meaning to learn Japanese, but I keep procrastinating
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 5:10 AM
yeah
alphaTECH 5/31/2018 5:18 AM
Hello, frequent TCRF lurker, love the work everybody has put in
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 5:18 AM
owo!
alphaTECH 5/31/2018 5:18 AM
Can somebody please delete this load of shit from the Vice City page?
5:18 AM
"Kenny Loggins was supposed to make a guest appearance on VCN as a host of one of the radio programs. "
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 5:18 AM
why?
alphaTECH 5/31/2018 5:19 AM
That rumour came about as Chinese whispers, IIRC
Madison 5/31/2018 5:19 AM
I suppose that's also not stuff that's in the game or prototypes, technically?
alphaTECH 5/31/2018 5:19 AM
A cut line from Phnom Penh '86 has Lance saying "wanna listen to some Loggins?" but that somehow turned into this "guest appearance" rumour
5:20 AM
Oh yeah, no, no Loggins in Vice City apart from the cut reference
5:20 AM
I think
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 5:21 AM
`There are unused radar icons for all the radio stations and including Vice City News.[58] Their purpose is unknown.` (on gtwiki)
alphaTECH 5/31/2018 5:21 AM
Yep, that's more like it
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 5:21 AM
well I can delete that
Madison 5/31/2018 5:21 AM
It'd be nice to have a source on this, just to be as accurate as possible
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 5:21 AM
yeah
alphaTECH 5/31/2018 5:22 AM
I'll try and dig up some GTAForums posts where people were discussing it
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 5:22 AM
mm, I'll postpone deleting till then
alphaTECH 5/31/2018 5:27 AM
Here's the mission lines
5:27 AM
https://gtaforums.com/topic/743880-beta-vice-city/?do=findComment&comment=1066778250
Beta Vice City
More working titles for the game were: GTA IV & GTA: Miami. No sh*t Sherlock (no rude btw). GTA IVs developement started after San Andreas release (until 2008, where LCS/VCS got released between these years, to keep the fans alive). After VC, San Andreas was in progress, not ...
5:27 AM
Will find more
Hiccup 5/31/2018 5:28 AM
its pokemon. its spaceworld. and its leaked.
5:29 AM
there is a link earlier on, somewhere in the channel.
5:29 AM
and probably elsewhere. the original (mega) download posted on 4chan is still working. (edited)
5:33 AM
yep
alphaTECH 5/31/2018 5:34 AM
https://gtaforums.com/topic/743880-beta-vice-city/?do=findComment&comment=1067953064
5:34 AM
Another post agreeing
5:34 AM
https://gtaforums.com/topic/743880-beta-vice-city/?do=findComment&comment=1067962759
Beta Vice City
Gotta be honest, the BETA Vercetti Gang guys resemble Yakuzas. Perhaps because of their role in GTA3, they might have been also featured in VC? Or even different - the FBI dude was actually Japanese as well, and he was working for the Yakuzas, kinda like being a crooked cop o...
5:35 AM
Another two posts agreeing on bullshit
5:35 AM
https://gtaforums.com/topic/743880-beta-vice-city/?do=findComment&comment=1068196476
Beta Vice City
I dont see how thats relevant He wanted to know how2become moderator on GTA wikia, so i made this easy step by step tutorial. No, I meant GTAForums, not GTAWikia
5:38 AM
Basically there is absolutely no source on the "Loggins as radio host" claim. I have never seen a shred of evidence to back it up, and I've read a lot of Vice City pre-release stuff. You can add to the VC page that Roxy Music's "More Than This" was originally going to be used as VC's intro/theme song. Some marketing director wrote up a bti of
5:38 AM
bit of a scathing report on R* work culture and mentioned this. I'll dig that up too. (edited)
alphaTECH 5/31/2018 5:47 AM
Can't find the damn thing. I've started a topic on GTAForums asking for help finding it. Will make contact if I get a heads up
punk7890 5/31/2018 5:52 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1002125656455499777
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several test menus in Super Bust-A-Move 2 (PS2) https://t.co/tAOJMLZ3jD The entirety of these menus are also present in the first game. They contain voice, sfx, and BGM tests. It will also allow you to toggle debug info on screen.
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Chorus Line 5/31/2018 6:20 AM
early pichu is the cutest thing ever and should have stayed -- change my mind
6:20 AM
Normmatt 5/31/2018 6:26 AM
i like the baby mons
6:26 AM
and the farfetch'd evo
Deleted User 5/31/2018 6:28 AM
I'm just gonna say that I like the old designs and cut pokemon a lot better (edited)
Chorus Line 5/31/2018 6:34 AM
idk. Some of the babies are cute but I appreciate them cutting back some because damn that was a lot
Deleted User 5/31/2018 6:37 AM
more pokemon the better IMO
Madison 5/31/2018 6:50 AM
Well, babies usually have terrible stats iirc?
LarryLemmy 5/31/2018 6:53 AM
I don't think they could fit more than 255 so it's better that they cut back on babies
Deleted User 5/31/2018 7:13 AM
I'd like to see a romhack with the updated stuff. Would be neat
7:13 AM
also: I miss the phone feature from g/s. Not sure why they cut all the cool stuff
7:13 AM
pokemon walking behind you too
7:13 AM
I think that was only in a few games
Deleted User 5/31/2018 7:29 AM
hi guys.
7:29 AM
hi
7:30 AM
sup. @Deleted User
7:31 AM
i see there's an #irc channel?
7:32 AM
i joined the real irc via IRCCloud.
7:34 AM
yes i pay to chat... on both fronts...
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/31/2018 9:05 AM
9:05 AM
I found debug menu in Nibiiro no Koubou: 32 Nin no Sensha Chou
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 10:28 AM
So how about that pokemon demo? My Twitter feed is going crazy with it.
eientei 5/31/2018 10:29 AM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 #prototypes
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 10:29 AM
I see
10:29 AM
Thanks for the redirect
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:04 AM
does anyone know of a game where you can extract the collision maps as images?
11:04 AM
11:04 AM
like this, hypothetically?
TechWizard 5/31/2018 11:33 AM
so i was wondering if anyone had some footage of the unused content from club penguin elite penguin force: herbert's revenge
☎ 5/31/2018 11:43 AM
The site is slower than usual, right?
eientei 5/31/2018 11:43 AM
Yes
whizzer0 5/31/2018 11:43 AM
now that's a game I haven't heard about in years
caff!!! 5/31/2018 11:49 AM
yeah, it's not like a proto of an extremely popular nintendo game got put on tcrf
11:49 AM
since the prototypes room is on another topic, does the leaked demo line up with this demo report? http://www.glitterberri.com/pokemon-gold-silver/spaceworld-97-demo/ (edited)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:50 AM
i doubt it's 80% complete like it was reported to be, but then again, most of the pokemon and their sprites are finished
caff!!! 5/31/2018 11:51 AM
maybe 80% complete as it was seen then
11:52 AM
then the game took another year in the oven, redid the map, and became a hit
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:52 AM
the starters are all the same as described in the article
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:52 AM
the closest thing to an inconsistency there really is is chikorita looking exactly like final chikorita rather than that truncated blob artist's impression
11:52 AM
and let's face it that's pretty easy to chalk down to human memory not being great
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:53 AM
kurusu looks the closest to what's actually in the game
caff!!! 5/31/2018 11:53 AM
well, it kinda does look like a leaning blob if you think of it
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:54 AM
yoroidori is also in the proto, and it's been finalized into skarmory at this point
caff!!! 5/31/2018 11:56 AM
some of the later stuff in the article might be for a later proto, yet undumped
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:56 AM
yeah you can't use the skateboard normally in this build, and it doesn't work correctly anyway
caff!!! 5/31/2018 11:57 AM
there's one talking about berries and items that block certain status effects
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:57 AM
oh wait, different article
11:57 AM
well, i can confirm at least that all of these pokemon are in the prototype
11:58 AM
and they all more or less match their sprite, besides ledbya, who looks the same as it does in the final game
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 11:58 AM
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:00 PM
You can clearly noticed the guy who did the silly Gren/Red/Blue sprites was eventually replaced
12:00 PM
Some Gen 1 sprites got redrawn, and some Gen 2 sprites were drawn by silly dude
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:01 PM
yeah, i noticed some of them seemed really odd
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:01 PM
Did Gold begin development before the existence of the GBC?
12:01 PM
That Gorebyss looking Pokemon seems colored like a GB pokemon
12:02 PM
With that hard black
12:02 PM
Also proto Gorebyss
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:02 PM
it began development sometime in 1997, or at least, that's when it was first publicly announced
caff!!! 5/31/2018 12:03 PM
seems likely that the artists made it more for the GB before GBC repass
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:03 PM
"The games were intended to be released at the end of the year for the original Game Boy, while supporting the Super Game Boy enhancements that the Generation I games have."
12:03 PM
from bulbapedia
12:03 PM
also gold and silver both fully function on regular game boys, so there's more evidence that they were originally designed for it
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/31/2018 12:05 PM
http://web.archive.org/web/19970605021149/http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n02/dmg/kingin/index.html
12:05 PM
発売日 平成9年 年末頃
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:06 PM
yeah, it's listed there as well
Athena 悠里マヤ 5/31/2018 12:07 PM
Release date: 1997 late (edited)
caff!!! 5/31/2018 12:07 PM
that makes me wonder, does the GBC have on board edits for gen1 pokemon games or was that just palette selection
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 12:07 PM
japanese yellow is a sgb-enhanced only game too
12:07 PM
english yellow has more elaborate GBC use
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:08 PM
the GBC makes no edits to red/blue/green besides the palettes
12:08 PM
they have unique borders on the super game boy but that's it
caff!!! 5/31/2018 12:08 PM
ah, just palette swapping
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 12:14 PM
GS development started in 1996, according to the Iwata Asks page for Heart Gold / Soul Silver
12:14 PM
after finishing Red & Green
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:14 PM
12:15 PM
i really don't like how this map looks, I'm glad they changed it
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 12:15 PM
although they released a couple non-nintendo games in 96 & 97 so it couldnt have been full steam ahead
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:16 PM
also kanto was apparently "compressed to a single map"
12:17 PM
knowing how much trouble they had even putting kanto into the game in the first place, that's not too surprising, but still
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 12:17 PM
(their SNES game Bushi Seiryūden has music that turned into a different track in Gold & Silver as an interesting note)
caff!!! 5/31/2018 12:20 PM
yeah, the map does feel very railroady
12:21 PM
Scrapping it and replacing it with the eventual 2 regions one was a great idea
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/31/2018 12:21 PM
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver/Pok%C3%A9mon
Pok%C3%A9mon
12:21 PM
can someone remove the final column? it adds nothing and will confuse people.
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:39 PM
woaaaah proto johto
eientei 5/31/2018 12:43 PM
Prohto
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:44 PM
apparently it's more than just proto johto
12:44 PM
kanto is also part of this map, but it's just one area
12:45 PM
with the size of the towns, and how the map is supposed to represent all of japan, this must be one very tiny region
12:45 PM
or a small country rather
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:46 PM
but then that would make Johto enormous
12:46 PM
Distances between towns would be many hundreds of miles
12:46 PM
I'm glad they toned down the size
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:47 PM
maybe the characters and buildings are just gigantic and scaled down to size because it's a top down view
12:48 PM
they probably made it like that because they wanted gold and silver to be "the end"
12:48 PM
i don't think they were anticipating or even planning a gen 3 at the time
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:52 PM
Gen 3 surely never had anything of this sort
12:52 PM
A vastly different prototype
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:52 PM
yeah, we've already seen what gen 3 looked like before the GBA's name was even finalized
12:52 PM
it wasn't that much different (edited)
Nex 5/31/2018 12:52 PM
gen 4 used to look quite different
Ritera 5/31/2018 12:53 PM
I think maybe they started on kanto being part of a bigger map which would be the map of GS
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:53 PM
Kanto had many, many locations
Ritera 5/31/2018 12:53 PM
Since kanto is included in GS
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:53 PM
the idea of kanto and johto being part of a connected map was set in stone since the very beginning
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:53 PM
A downsize would have not beem fair
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:54 PM
but johto was meant to be a gigantic region that kanto was only a very tiny part of originally
12:54 PM
It's a miracle that we got what we ended up with in the final game
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:54 PM
Rather than making Johto ginormous and scale down Kanto
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:54 PM
if they couldn't pull it off, they most likely would've scrapped the kanto connection entirely
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:55 PM
They kept Kanto in almost 1:1, and downsized Johto
12:56 PM
A much better design
Ritera 5/31/2018 12:56 PM
It was better this way, paved way for other regions, like Hoenn (Kyushu)
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:56 PM
only possible cuz of Iwata compressing Kanto
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:56 PM
the hero of nintendo in the 90s
Rena 5/31/2018 12:56 PM
Hmm, TCRF is very slow today
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:57 PM
Has to be
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:57 PM
it's because of the pokemon gold and silver proto, traffic is insane right now
12:57 PM
once pokemon green gets dumped it'll be just as bad, if not worse
Ritera 5/31/2018 12:57 PM
Yeah, didn't know about here before, just got the rom
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:57 PM
I wonder if anybody has tipped off Gamefreak already
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:58 PM
somebody has to have done it
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:58 PM
Wait, Green?
Ritera 5/31/2018 12:58 PM
Not much they can do now, I think
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 12:58 PM
the person who dumped this demo claims to have a pokemon green beta as well
Dos 5/31/2018 12:58 PM
man what a thing to wake up to
12:59 PM
you all are awesome
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 12:59 PM
...I dont think itll be as interesting as Prohto
1:00 PM
They pretty much had a solid plan for Kanto from the get go
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 1:00 PM
it depends on how much is left from the capsule monsters concept
goat 5/31/2018 1:00 PM
pokemon green will be interesting because people aren't used to pokemon green's wacky sprites
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 1:00 PM
Johto beta...is kind of a work in progress
1:00 PM
They didnt expect the series to be such a big hit
1:01 PM
so they sort of tried to make an end all be all sequel to send it off
1:02 PM
Dont pretty much all Gen 1 pokes have baby forms in Johto beta?
1:02 PM
Even baby forms that came to existence 2 gens later
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 1:02 PM
not all of them, but i know tangela does
1:02 PM
apparently
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 1:02 PM
Doduo
1:03 PM
Meowth
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
elekid and smoochum are drastically different
🐮 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
How exactly did the demo get leaked on 4chan?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
are we calling it the "Johto Beta" now
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
somebody probably stole it
🐮 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
Jalpha
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
Mime Jr is called Ballerina
1:03 PM
PROHTO
🐮 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
Musashi wins
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
No
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
and it was just now discovered/re-stolen
🐮 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
Yes
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 1:03 PM
when Green beta comes out
🐮 5/31/2018 1:04 PM
Verta
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 1:04 PM
How will you call Kanto Proto
1:04 PM
Pronto?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 1:04 PM
1:04 PM
current mood
🐮 5/31/2018 1:04 PM
Kalphanto
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 1:05 PM
Lickitung has an evo
1:05 PM
Waaay before Lickylicky existed
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 1:06 PM
ughhhhh i needed that picross game
1:06 PM
why did they cut it
🐮 5/31/2018 1:06 PM
They wanted to wait 18 years so they could release it as a freemium 3DS game
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 1:06 PM
i know it's not popular outside of japan like at all but i love picross
🐮 5/31/2018 1:07 PM
I'm still bummed out about having lost my Picross DS cartridge
goat 5/31/2018 1:07 PM
there's an absurd amoutn of picross on the 3ds and it owns
🐮 5/31/2018 1:08 PM
Picross e1, e2, e3, e4, e5, e6, e7, e8, 3D Round 2, Club Nintendo Picross, Club Nintendo Picross Plus, MyNintendo Twilight Princess Picross, Sanrio Picross, Pokémon Picross
goat 5/31/2018 1:08 PM
shoutouts to the twilight princess one for not fitting onscreen
🐮 5/31/2018 1:09 PM
Those are the ones from the top of my head; not sure if there are more
goat 5/31/2018 1:09 PM
the name is so long that when you're downloading it it's wrapping offscreen
🐮 5/31/2018 1:09 PM
I do remember that haha
1:10 PM
Oh, I forgot about one
1:10 PM
Mario's Picross
1:10 PM
And Mario's Super Picross for New Nintendo 3DS
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 1:11 PM
i think Picross 2 was released in japan too
🐮 5/31/2018 1:11 PM
That's right
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 1:11 PM
easily the shittiest of the bunch due to the harsh unlock requirement for the last puzzle of every round (edited)
🐮 5/31/2018 1:11 PM
So that's 17 Picross games then
1:13 PM
All available on Nintendo 3DS
Rena 5/31/2018 1:13 PM
That's a funny looking Porygon2
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 1:13 PM
beta porygon2 doesn't even make any sense
1:13 PM
as far as i can see anyway
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 1:14 PM
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 1:14 PM
There
1:14 PM
It also made thematic sense (edited)
1:14 PM
Porygon is all polygonal
1:15 PM
Porygon2 is all rounded
1:15 PM
But the design was admittedly too different
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 1:15 PM
the final porygon2 makes more thematic sense because it's an advanced version of what it previously was
1:15 PM
supposed to represent improvements in 3d technology
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 1:16 PM
maybe they were afraid of copyright claims by mister donut
Rena 5/31/2018 1:19 PM
I figured they just pulled the wrong sprite
Dos 5/31/2018 1:39 PM
what is the story with pon de lion because i do not know who that is and why it would be something worth spoofing for a CGI pokemon evolution
eientei 5/31/2018 1:40 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Donut#Marketing_presence
Mister Donut
Mister Donut (ミスタードーナツ, Misutā Dōnatsu) is a fast food franchise founded in the United States in 1956 and now headquartered in Japan, where it has more than 1,300 stores. The primary offerings include doughnuts, coffee, muffins and pastries. After being acqu...
1:40 PM
>a lion with a mane shaped like its "pon de ring"
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 1:41 PM
i saw someone say that there was apparently one near game freaks hq or something
1:42 PM
have fun confirming that
GerbilSoft 5/31/2018 1:43 PM
https://it.slashdot.org/story/18/05/31/1723203/valve-patches-security-bug-that-existed-in-steam-client-for-the-past-ten-years
Valve Patches Security Bug That Existed in Steam Client for the Pa...
Valve developers have recently patched a severe security flaw that affected all versions of the Steam gaming client released in the past ten years. From a report: According to Tom Court, a security researcher with Context Information Security, the one who discovered the flaw,...
1:44 PM
"Court says an attacker was only required to send malformed UDP packets to a target's Steam client, which would have triggered the bug and allowed him to run malicious code on the target's PC."
1:44 PM
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 1:44 PM
amazing
vervalkon 5/31/2018 1:45 PM
wow
GerbilSoft 5/31/2018 1:46 PM
"The Context security researcher says exploitation of this flaw would have been trivial up until July 2017, when Valve added ASLR protection to the Steam desktop client."
1:46 PM
.
1:46 PM
you have to go out of your way to explicitly disable ASLR if building with VS2005 or later
1:46 PM
the fix was included in an update on April 4 (edited)
eientei 5/31/2018 1:47 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT There's a Denny's, 7/11, Subway and Starbucks near their current HQ in the Carrot Tower
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 1:48 PM
GerbilSoft 5/31/2018 1:49 PM
...actually maybe 2010 or later
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/31/2018 1:52 PM
WHAT ARE YA'LL'S FAVORITE NEW POKEMONS? (edited)
1:53 PM
I love the panda pokemon and how it's pre-evolution is literally a voodoo doll panda with a nail through its chest
1:53 PM
1:54 PM
and the unreleased version of Kingdra is boss af, look at those hands it's so cool
GW9 5/31/2018 1:54 PM
That anchor shark midevo (edited)
Dos 5/31/2018 1:55 PM
rinring is already my pokesona
caff!!! 5/31/2018 1:55 PM
beta bayleef
1:57 PM
hanamogura is cute
tape 5/31/2018 1:59 PM
huntail??
2:00 PM
holy SHIT qwilfish had an evolution??
2:00 PM
remoraid and octillery looking more like a gun and a tank
2:02 PM
the fireball seal is clever
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:03 PM
i like not-mega pinsir
2:03 PM
i couldn't even find its face at first (edited)
tape 5/31/2018 2:03 PM
why is one of these just tentaquil
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/31/2018 2:04 PM
unreleased version of hitmontop is so much cooler and so is unreleased version of blissey
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:04 PM
hitmontop's preevolution looks better than tyrogue imo
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/31/2018 2:05 PM
woah look at this
2:05 PM
how do you go from that to the released version
tape 5/31/2018 2:05 PM
proto blissey is better than used blissey because it keeps the axolotl theme from chansey
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/31/2018 2:05 PM
@Hugette Hikari yeah it totally does
2:05 PM
literally 100x better than the released version
tape 5/31/2018 2:05 PM
and yeah as much as i like hitmontop i think that scrapped version is much more creative
FrostedGeulleisia 5/31/2018 2:07 PM
that blissey looks like Togekiss but on grounds doesn't it
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:08 PM
So many baby forms
2:08 PM
Baby Goldeen
2:08 PM
Baby Grimer
2:08 PM
Baby Growlithe
2:09 PM
Baby Meowth
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/31/2018 2:09 PM
it literally looks like gamefreak's thought process was, "if it looks cool, get rid of it"
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:10 PM
I think they just believed leaving some pokemon evo trees as twofers was more balanced?
2:10 PM
Baby Vulpix
Dos 5/31/2018 2:10 PM
having nothing but babies would not have made for the most fun experience
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:11 PM
Baby Paras
2:11 PM
I mean, if the idea was to breed eggs
2:11 PM
Then babied existing wouldnt havr been much of an issue
GW9 5/31/2018 2:12 PM
Eh. Looking at the stats, I don't think Game Freak was going for balance yet.
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:12 PM
It would be even less of an issue nowadays
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 2:12 PM
guys what if the BETA moblin from twilight princess BETA was originally in pokemon gold BETA???
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:12 PM
i like how pichu is just a ball with ears in this build
GW9 5/31/2018 2:12 PM
Most of the stats look unfinished.
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:13 PM
You could just throw all these in like, in the next core entry
2:13 PM
Nothing to lose
GW9 5/31/2018 2:13 PM
Honestly I want to see the shark anchor
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:13 PM
people are theorizing that gorochu will be the new pokemon in let's go pikachu/eevee
2:13 PM
so they might actually do that
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:13 PM
Why they didnt keep all the babies is weird
GW9 5/31/2018 2:14 PM
Oversaturation of babies?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:14 PM
too many babies in one generation, gen 4 took over most of them anyway
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:14 PM
but babies making up a large number of the roster is prolly a reasob why
2:14 PM
Nowadays, with so many pokes
2:14 PM
It wouldnt hurt to reintroduce them
GW9 5/31/2018 2:15 PM
Gorochu would still be interesting to implement as its own standalone Pokemon or a split evolution.
Dos 5/31/2018 2:15 PM
did G/S have wild encounters with babies? I thought they were only available via breeding
2:15 PM
which would be a huge pain if a massive chunk of the dex was them
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:15 PM
I think Gen 4 barely reintroduced like, 3 or 4 of them
2:15 PM
Theres over 10 baby forms in GS Proto
2:15 PM
I think
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:15 PM
there are no wild encounters with baby pokemon in G/S (edited)
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:16 PM
Trading with RB + breeding
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:16 PM
you never see them in trainer battles before you get the odd egg from the day care either
Dos 5/31/2018 2:16 PM
a huge issue with actual gold/silver is that a surprising number of wild pokemon are just gen1 again
2:16 PM
there's a ton you don't get until really late in the game
MusashiAA 5/31/2018 2:16 PM
Some Kanto pokes were prolly going to be missing
caff!!! 5/31/2018 2:18 PM
Nah, cross-gen trades seemed to be in from the start
danke 5/31/2018 2:18 PM
How were the English Pokemon names obtained?
caff!!! 5/31/2018 2:19 PM
I'm just thinking that some designs got replaced with more unique things
Glisp 5/31/2018 2:19 PM
wow, lots of traffic on the site
2:19 PM
I just got the news from one of my videos
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:19 PM
i think somebody explained it already where the english names came from
Glisp 5/31/2018 2:19 PM
(I was doing a rom hack for Pokemon gold to restore towns years ago)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:19 PM
buried somewhere here in the chat or in #prototypes
Glisp 5/31/2018 2:20 PM
The site's moving slow because of all the traffic
2:20 PM
I can tell
Nex 5/31/2018 2:21 PM
tcrf.net is chocking blood rn while trying to catch up with the heavy traffic
danke 5/31/2018 2:22 PM
Looks like they are unofficial translated name puns. I wish it would indicate that.
f(x)^3 5/31/2018 2:22 PM
Is the site dead right now?
Glisp 5/31/2018 2:22 PM
No
2:22 PM
just VERY slow
2:22 PM
It's getting way more traffic than it can handle because of the beta
f(x)^3 5/31/2018 2:23 PM
What beta?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:23 PM
a pokemon gold and silver beta was leaked today
2:23 PM
it's one of the biggest finds in prototype history because it was thought to be completely lost for 20 years (edited)
f(x)^3 5/31/2018 2:24 PM
oh damn
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:24 PM
plus nintendo prototypes, especially ones that are drastically different like this one, are exceedingly rare
Glisp 5/31/2018 2:24 PM
How did they come across it though?
2:25 PM
that's something I'd like to know
2:25 PM
I'm sure it's a secret for legal reasons though
susieq 5/31/2018 2:25 PM
the story i've seen is some collector has been hoarding it for years alongside some other stuff, and when they died their collection got put in thrift stores/etc
Glisp 5/31/2018 2:25 PM
Some of the pokemon got cut actually
GutsehMan 5/31/2018 2:27 PM
november 1997 right?
2:27 PM
this is from like
Zedd 5/31/2018 2:27 PM
what other prototypes
caff!!! 5/31/2018 2:28 PM
Gen1 proto yet to be dumped, at the very least
Zedd 5/31/2018 2:28 PM
WHAT
susieq 5/31/2018 2:29 PM
all i remember was some megadrive stuff and rumors of a pokemon green proto on top of the gold/silver ones now
2:29 PM
on an unrelated note i found some more undocumented unused assets in zoo tycoon but i definitely wont be bothering with that while the site is dying, not entirely sure how to go about documenting it anyway
caff!!! 5/31/2018 2:29 PM
Thing is, it may be a us version port proto and not technically a in development version
susieq 5/31/2018 2:31 PM
theres an entire female sprite set for bigfoot with modelled breasts thats unused (because the ai file is set to use the male sprite set for female bigfoot, though this may have been done intentionally to keep the game's rating from going up)
2:32 PM
works 100% normally if you just change one M to F in the bigfoot.ai file
eientei 5/31/2018 2:32 PM
@caff!!! For what, the G/S protos?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:32 PM
green was never proven to ever be approved for a US release, and the screenshot he shared is in japanese for a screen that doesn't exist in any gen 1 game
Zedd 5/31/2018 2:32 PM
what screenshot
caff!!! 5/31/2018 2:33 PM
@eientei rumored green proto
eientei 5/31/2018 2:33 PM
Yeah no
caff!!! 5/31/2018 2:33 PM
Ah
2:34 PM
Well, I'm hyped
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:34 PM
yeah like i said there's a 0% chance that this is an early english port of pokemon green
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 2:34 PM
where did the green proto thing pop up from
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:35 PM
the same person who dumped gold and silver claimed to have a proto of green
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 2:35 PM
like the very original leak?
2:35 PM
not the 4chan one
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:35 PM
i think so
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 2:35 PM
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:36 PM
Wait wait
2:36 PM
There are Green prototypes out there as well, yet to be dumped?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:36 PM
supposedly
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 2:36 PM
no one knows
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:36 PM
Hmmmm... That would definitely be interesting
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:37 PM
all we have to go off of is the leaker's word, and i see no reason for him to lie if they had this demo available
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:37 PM
Has there been an actual reason why they stuck with Red/Blue instead of Red/Green in the West, despite the 'Blue version' being the surperior version? (edited)
LarryLemmy 5/31/2018 2:38 PM
I'm curious to know if the leaker got the proto from Sanqui et al or someone else
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:38 PM
they probably figured kids would find blastoise more appealing than venusaur
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 2:38 PM
the 4chan leaker did from the private release
2:38 PM
but we dont know where the private release came from
caff!!! 5/31/2018 2:39 PM
Red/green is a common colorblind color set
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 2:39 PM
if they used Japan blue as a base wouldn't that be slightly easier to use for English Red/Blue too
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 5/31/2018 2:39 PM
i'm pretty sure any of the unreleased pokemon would not be in pokemon green because they literally scrapped them because they didn't have enough space on the cartridge (edited)
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:39 PM
Eh, true. I just hope more protos or in development versions get dumped for preservation. Would be interesting to see if there's a Crystal one out there as well.
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:40 PM
even if the beta pokemon aren't there, we know gen 1 used to be drastically different and there's many scrapped things left in the game's code
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:40 PM
Well, those were rumours/what developers said, yet the actual evidence would be in legit ROM images.
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:40 PM
oh yeah
2:40 PM
a crystal proto
2:40 PM
i wonder if we'd see the early female trainer in it
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:41 PM
Wouldn't be as exciting as this one, but it could still have interesting leftover data.
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:41 PM
green might have some remnants of the female player character that was planned for gen 1 as well, but probably not
2:41 PM
it was far enough in development for art to be made of her, at least
tape 5/31/2018 2:41 PM
if green has crocky the crackodile i'll scream
2:41 PM
but if not, that's fine
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:41 PM
OH, I wanted to ask this: Has someone else got with the Gold prototype a sound issue with the intro being mute, until the title screen? Probably not, considering we don't even have the turtle Pokémon in the Gold Proto. :/
tape 5/31/2018 2:42 PM
we already know he exists
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:42 PM
we'll all scream, some of excitement and some of horror (edited)
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 2:42 PM
i don't think there's any new music in the proto
2:42 PM
or at least none programmed in
tape 5/31/2018 2:42 PM
if it has the fucked up early sprite of venusaur as some kind of rotting glob i'll be happy
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 2:42 PM
they just re-used music from red & blue
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:42 PM
as far as i know all the music in the proto is reused from red/blue
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:43 PM
Hmmm, okay then.
caff!!! 5/31/2018 2:43 PM
Yeah, sound was usually the last thing worked on in games of the era
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:44 PM
gold and silver has early work-in-progress sprites, so it's likely that green could have the same
LarryLemmy 5/31/2018 2:45 PM
Some of the final RG sprites look like they were work in progress
2:45 PM
That freaking Wigglytuff...
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 2:45 PM
g/s final sprites are barely done (edited)
2:45 PM
so many of them were fixed in the english copies or crystal
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:46 PM
Wait wait
2:46 PM
Silver version is there as well?
2:46 PM
Or is it fake?
2:46 PM
The one mentioned at 4chan
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:46 PM
It's real but there's no difference between the two
2:47 PM
ho-oh is on the title screen for both
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:47 PM
Are theere not internal differences then? Hmmm... Perhaps Ho-Oh was the only cover legendary then?
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 2:49 PM
yeah Lugia was developed later in conjuction with Pokemon the Movie 2000
2:49 PM
they may have been less different from each other a la red/green/blue initially
goat 5/31/2018 2:49 PM
and ho-oh was waay pre-gold/silver
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:49 PM
we don't know about internal differences just yet, i don't think anybody's taken more than just a glance at the code
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 2:49 PM
Ho-Oh being around since episode 1 of the anime
TopHat 5/31/2018 2:50 PM
Huh. Why are these two prototypes suddenly leaked now, out of all times huh?
goat 5/31/2018 2:50 PM
the walls of reality are decaying
GutsehMan 5/31/2018 2:50 PM
apparently the people who had them wanted to decompile all the information they could first and release it in a month
2:50 PM
and then someone just 'noped' and leaked it
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:50 PM
a collector died and his stuff got sold, this proto was one of them
GutsehMan 5/31/2018 2:51 PM
people are saying this is 'the holy grail' but for me a holy grail would be like
2:51 PM
idk gamecube prototypes of nintendo games
2:51 PM
like a melee prototype or a sunshine prototype
f(x)^3 5/31/2018 2:52 PM
for me it'd be Midtown Madness 1 betas, Angel Studios' first vehicle game
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 2:52 PM
Sonic 1 prototype is pretty high up there
GutsehMan 5/31/2018 2:52 PM
that's true
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:52 PM
yeah I'd consider sonic 1 to be the holy grail
Dos 5/31/2018 2:52 PM
Dueling Firemen or bust
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 2:52 PM
even sega doesn't know where it is
GutsehMan 5/31/2018 2:52 PM
obviously mother 3 on the 64 is up there
goat 5/31/2018 2:52 PM
a nice holy grail would be final fantasy iv nes
eientei 5/31/2018 2:52 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RdnNemmFo6i3W5lTTo_34OJ-8-rzA4SD/view?usp=sharing
XboxOne_Mnemonic_3s_ProRes444_1080p_25.mov
goat 5/31/2018 2:53 PM
resident evil 1.5 came out, right?
GutsehMan 5/31/2018 2:54 PM
i think it did but it was a rather incomplete version
Rena 5/31/2018 2:54 PM
Diddy Kong Racing 2 or Dinosaur Planet would be pretty epic
Nex 5/31/2018 2:54 PM
theres like 40% build of 1.5 out but a 80% build exists
Rena 5/31/2018 2:55 PM
Or the Switch master signing key :V
LarryLemmy 5/31/2018 2:55 PM
My personal preference would be the first Jak and Daxter game
goat 5/31/2018 2:55 PM
it'd be hilarious if the switch master key leaked right now, when two separate cfws are racing
GutsehMan 5/31/2018 2:57 PM
isn't there already work on a switch emulator?
eientei 5/31/2018 2:58 PM
Yes
goat 5/31/2018 3:02 PM
yuzu can run a few games
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 3:03 PM
dinosaur planet is more feasible than dkr2 or donkey kong racing
3:04 PM
I'd say so anyway, cause we have a soundtrack and gameplay available
3:04 PM
so we know it's out there in a playable state
smubear 5/31/2018 3:18 PM
aight i just softmodded my xbox
3:18 PM
now i can ftp and look at game files hopefully
3:19 PM
3:19 PM
yeet
Borman 5/31/2018 3:30 PM
I have the Diddy Kong racing adventure prototype pitch :P Not the same of course
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 3:30 PM
yeah, that's just a tech demo/demonstration
Gilgamesh 5/31/2018 3:32 PM
Gamecube demo
3:32 PM
:p
Deleted User 5/31/2018 3:35 PM
Found a Japanese ROM of Darkwing Duck. It's a fan translation. (edited)
Darkwing_Duck_J_.nes
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3:38 PM
oh, it actually is a fan translation.
------ 5/31/2018 3:52 PM
@smubear Remember to check your model number and maybe remove that clock cap.
3:54 PM
My holy grail is pretty much mostly anything from the Rock Band and Guitar Hero series, but i've accepted it's highly unlikely to ever find anything.
3:55 PM
Right now I guess my targets are GH 80s Preview Build, a RB3 pre production build (May actually have a possible lead on a E3 build for it, but the guy is pretty flaky) and GH1 prototypes.
eientei 5/31/2018 3:55 PM
My holy grail is a heroic person
3:56 PM
You could say I'm holding out for a hero
smubear 5/31/2018 4:13 PM
@------ what do ya mean by model number and clock cap?
4:14 PM
why do i need to know those and where can i find em
eientei 5/31/2018 4:17 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/originalxbox
Original Xbox: Games will never be the same • r/originalxbox
There's an Xbox 360 and an Xbox One, but first there was just Xbox. The original Xbox.
4:18 PM
They have a guide as to what you should know
------ 5/31/2018 4:25 PM
If you look about online you'll find some decent info, basically, everything but xbox version 1.6 has a cap on the board that will leak and kill the console
Fem-grima exe 5/31/2018 4:28 PM
The long waited prototype of pokemon gold and silver gives me hope. Mostly because they're just not completely lost forever.
Khangaroo 5/31/2018 4:29 PM
what up
4:29 PM
i actually had a tcrf wiki account for a while now but the pokemon gold stuff got me to join this discord
------ 5/31/2018 4:31 PM
This is what stings the most about my holy grail lol
4:31 PM
I know they exist.
4:31 PM
but they're just locked away in the developers office and can't be released/looked into.
Nex 5/31/2018 4:32 PM
GH2?
------ 5/31/2018 4:32 PM
Guitar Hero 2
Nex 5/31/2018 4:32 PM
oh
------ 5/31/2018 4:32 PM
That picture was taken in Harmonix's offices.
4:32 PM
They have binders like this for all their projects, (almost) daily builds.
4:33 PM
(along with all their cancelled games).
4:33 PM
I'd kill to be allowed to sit and document all these builds.
Seventy7 5/31/2018 4:41 PM
Joining here from Video Game Preservation Collective discord. We coordinate datting roms/dumps with redump.org and no-intro: https://discord.gg/qmY8Dxm I've noticed a lot of proto dumpers aren't submitting their dumps for datting and they get lost with time, for example some dead links on hiddenpalace wiki. This is a serious concern for video game preservation. (edited)
f(x)^3 5/31/2018 5:03 PM
So I looked at this out of curiosity https://tcrf.net/SimCity_3000
5:03 PM
and now here I am in ida looking at the debug stuff
5:03 PM
Glisp 5/31/2018 5:39 PM
I dunno
5:40 PM
regarding the guys talking about the Holy Grail
5:40 PM
Pokemon Gold prototype is a pretty big deal to a lot of people
5:41 PM
People have put hours of research into its unused content like many other games.
5:41 PM
even more effort has been put into its research than Red and Green
eientei 5/31/2018 5:41 PM
Eh
5:41 PM
Still less than Red/Blue
5:41 PM
or even Crystal
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 5:42 PM
crystal doesn't have very much to follow though
Glisp 5/31/2018 5:42 PM
I dunno, seems like more unused content was found for Pokemon Gold and Silver than RBGY and Crystal
5:42 PM
Of course, I kinda blame that on priority of finding things
5:43 PM
also, someone was talking about Pokemon Gold and Silver final's sprites being unfinished
5:43 PM
Which while the US version fixed, it's clear that Raikou and Entei weren't finished
5:43 PM
Have you saw their sprites in Gold and Silver? They look horrendus
5:43 PM
especially entei's backsprite
5:44 PM
thankfully, Crystal fixed them
leilei 5/31/2018 5:44 PM
perhaps its hugeness could have a dedicated channel for it
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 5:45 PM
yeah but red/green were in development for a really long period of time we know very little about
Glisp 5/31/2018 5:45 PM
Indeed
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 5:45 PM
more eyes were on them in the 3 year period gs was made
Glisp 5/31/2018 5:46 PM
Most development for Pokemon R/G and even GS weren't even published. So until this prototype came out, little was known (edited)
5:46 PM
I have to say though, some of the unreleased pokemon look crazy
5:47 PM
also, I've noticed it seems like the Chikorita line was in the process of being replaced
5:47 PM
As Bayleef is different and their names are still different
5:47 PM
so it's possible like the other two starters, a completely different pokemon evolution line existed there
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 5:48 PM
it's funny a while ago i went through the official US pokemon website in the wayback machine
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 5:48 PM
explodes
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 5:48 PM
at one point they mention Gold and Silver's Japanese announcement and pending release date for some reason (i think this when they were still aiming for 1998)
5:49 PM
it was quietly removed a short time later
5:49 PM
baller web design too
5:49 PM
real late 90s explosion of colors and html
Glisp 5/31/2018 5:49 PM
seems like the Bellsprout line was gonna have a sunstone evolution
5:50 PM
This is awesome stuff
5:50 PM
I just came back from a power outage
5:50 PM
I was looking at the stuff on my phone in the mean time and am just now commenting on it
Netscape Navigator 5/31/2018 5:52 PM
once the official Pokémon website even posted garbage-quality jpgs of untranslated Japanese screenshots of Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire
5:52 PM
and Japanese Pokémon names
5:52 PM
not really on brand for Nintendo in those days
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 5:55 PM
lol (edited)
5:55 PM
i can imagine that from the old site
Glisp 5/31/2018 5:56 PM
rather than looking like beasts, the legendary beasts look like dogs
5:56 PM
(as they're sometimes also called but in this case they literally are legendary dogs)
tape 5/31/2018 6:01 PM
they look like that anime dog with the hair i see sometimes
GerbilSoft 5/31/2018 6:19 PM
live video of TCRF's datacenter https://www.tenor.co/WaoP.gif (edited)
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Nex 5/31/2018 6:22 PM
everything is fine
eientei 5/31/2018 6:29 PM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/1002250505781891072
🌸 X/Revya 🌸 (@xkeepah)
current tcrf server status https://t.co/20D4VftUML
AnkyloSource 5/31/2018 6:36 PM
even discord is crazy today
6:37 PM
I don't check in a bunch, but I feel like i've never seen this many people talking at once
eientei 5/31/2018 6:38 PM
Yeah, mainly #prototypes is having the most activity in ages
palex00 5/31/2018 6:44 PM
I'm new here and I'm addicted. Didn't know this existed but I love finding cut content from games and beta / development footage. I'll stick around!
Deleted User 5/31/2018 6:44 PM
These Pokemon leaks. Why is Ledyba's evolution a YGO card? lol
Nex 5/31/2018 6:46 PM
the word betas has been used dozens of times in #prototypes not too long ago
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 6:46 PM
i thought beta is for when people can play it like a demo
6:46 PM
like at a showing floor
smubear 5/31/2018 6:46 PM
but not a cutting room floor
6:47 PM
huehuehue
palex00 5/31/2018 6:48 PM
Urgh, did it without thinking. I have used the word prototype before tho! I swear! I'm a good potato!
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 6:49 PM
isn't prototype just something that isn't supposed to be shown at all to the public and only in the company itself
6:49 PM
i wouldn't mind some clarification
leilei 5/31/2018 6:51 PM
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/319106/Early_Pokemon_Gold_and_Silver_demo_uncovers_scrapped_content.php (edited)
Early Pokemon Gold and Silver demo uncovers scrapped content
An early demo has found its way online, offering developers a rare look at some of the ideas, locations, and creatures that never made it into the final versions of the second round of Pokemon games.
eientei 5/31/2018 6:55 PM
>After digging into the folks over at ResetEra have discovered a significant amount of differences between the demo and the version of Pokemon Gold and Silver released two years later in 1999.
Nex 5/31/2018 6:59 PM
j o u r n a l i s m
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 6:59 PM
we don't exist
6:59 PM
instead neo-neogaf gets the credit
Wumbo 5/31/2018 7:02 PM
Folks Over at Google Docs Prepare for English Translation of Pokemon Prototype
Nex 5/31/2018 7:05 PM
folks over at google +
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:06 PM
"bulbapedia discovers newly found pokemon beta"
leilei 5/31/2018 7:06 PM
thank you youtubegaming for releasing pokemon the golden beta (edited)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:06 PM
they're not gonna say prototype, let's be honest
Nex 5/31/2018 7:06 PM
youtube gaming is where I get my news from
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 7:06 PM
you're a prototype
leilei 5/31/2018 7:06 PM
at least gamasutra only said demo (edited)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:06 PM
i am
Nex 5/31/2018 7:06 PM
I'm a BETA
7:06 PM
look at my name ffs
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 7:07 PM
i'm an alpha
7:07 PM
:^)
Nex 5/31/2018 7:07 PM
oof
7:07 PM
I'm omega
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:07 PM
alphas are almost always just completely unplayable demos though
leilei 5/31/2018 7:07 PM
alpha and the omega
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:07 PM
Okay this is strange
7:08 PM
VBA M keeps writing battery files for the prototype non-stop
7:08 PM
Like every few seconds I'll get a message saying "writing battery"
Rena 5/31/2018 7:10 PM
Sounds like it's enabling and disabling the save memory often
7:10 PM
Maybe trying to access the clock
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:10 PM
Ah
7:10 PM
but the clock doesn't exist really, does it?
7:10 PM
Oh wait, yeah it has to
7:11 PM
because primative pokegear is in the game
7:11 PM
It seems to happen every time I enter a building or new location
7:11 PM
or enter a battle
eientei 5/31/2018 7:11 PM
@Hugette Hikari "bulbapedia discovers newly found pokemon beta" They're not going to, they're actively refusing to acknowledge it's real
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:11 PM
saving is disabled so maybe it keeps trying to write to the battery because it can't actually do it
7:11 PM
so it just keeps trying
Rena 5/31/2018 7:13 PM
https://youtu.be/XzeTpf1HGQE
GameHut
SNES Puggsy was Cancelled! But I found some original GFX and Music...
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:13 PM
There's a weird infinite wild pokemon encounter glitch
Rena 5/31/2018 7:13 PM
From the devs afaik
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:14 PM
when you try to exit a tile with grass on it that's next to a wall and go out the way the wall is, you'll always trigger a wild encounter
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:14 PM
yeah this is from the head of traveler's tales
7:14 PM
he's been documenting protos of his games for a while
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:14 PM
Just realized
7:14 PM
these starters are from the concept art...
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:15 PM
there was no publicly released concept art of these starters, it was just a mockup that somebody drew based on memory/description
eientei 5/31/2018 7:15 PM
>EscLucy - Today at 11:14 AM >We only write articles on facts. Bulbanews is and always will be factual articles for our users. We will not reconsider this long-standing rule just because of this leak.
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:16 PM
Sounds like they want to but they're worried the big N will come after them
7:16 PM
iirc, there was a similar stigma with them and the Ruby debugging prototype
eientei 5/31/2018 7:17 PM
Nah, they're still actively denying it's real, but not saying they won't cover it because of fear of DMCA
leilei 5/31/2018 7:17 PM
i sitll want to play fleapit
Nex 5/31/2018 7:17 PM
they're loosing out good if they don't cover it (edited)
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:17 PM
Dunno, seems pretty real to me
7:18 PM
Of course, blame the age of ROM hacks and awful looking fake pokemon from some of them
tape 5/31/2018 7:18 PM
excuse me
Dos 5/31/2018 7:18 PM
isn't Bulbanews part of Bulbapedia?
tape 5/31/2018 7:18 PM
pokemon quartz is a masterpiece
Dos 5/31/2018 7:19 PM
where i literally found myself yesterday on their page for cut character designs throughout the series
eientei 5/31/2018 7:19 PM
@Dos Yes
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:19 PM
I wasn't refering to quartz
eientei 5/31/2018 7:19 PM
They're both under the Bulbagarden label, and so both are actively refusing to cover it
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:19 PM
Something similar happened with the leak of Earthbound (NES) back in the day
7:20 PM
there were a people skeptical that it was real
7:20 PM
and until Earthbound beginnings came out, there were still skeptics
7:22 PM
Ledyba uses the Green SGB pallete...
7:23 PM
kind of an odd color choice
7:23 PM
since there is at least one red pallete
7:23 PM
Hah if you lose it's game over
7:26 PM
Too bad we can't just get Masuda to come out and say it's legit
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:27 PM
he could, yuji naka himself confirmed that the sonic 2 beta was legitimate and the same as one that was stolen
7:27 PM
it's not likely that he'll comment on this though
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:27 PM
If anything he'll probably try and take legal action if he hears about it
7:28 PM
Just because the guys at Nintendo all seem pretty protective of their IP's
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 7:28 PM
ok quick question is someone already working on color sprite rips or should I get on it
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:29 PM
somebody already did it
7:29 PM
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:29 PM
They're still using SGB palletes btw
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:30 PM
if you want to do like full color you can go ahead
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 7:30 PM
SGB are the only ones that exist is my understanding
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:30 PM
Yeah they are
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 7:30 PM
no kanto mons... was this all done manually?
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:31 PM
GBA mode uses standard Gameboy colors
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:31 PM
it was done manually
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 7:31 PM
oof
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:31 PM
oh wait
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:31 PM
It's still running off of the old engine so that's no surprise
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:31 PM
they weren't manually colored
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 7:31 PM
manually screenshotted and arranged though
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:31 PM
yeah
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:32 PM
The AI trainers are surprisingly strong
7:33 PM
Kinda curious why they picked the Gym Leader music for battles (edited)
7:33 PM
seems a bit too epic for normal battles IMO
borb 5/31/2018 7:34 PM
"hey, we have a demo at spaceworld tomorrow and we don't have a wild pokemon battle music yet"
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:34 PM
Technically they did
7:34 PM
all the music from Red and green seems to be present
7:34 PM
from what I understand
borb 5/31/2018 7:34 PM
oh, okay!
Nex 5/31/2018 7:34 PM
DevED posted the list of music not too long ago
7:34 PM
`00 = Silence 01 = Title 02 = Route 1 03 = Oak Intro 04 = Gym Leader Battle 05 = Trainer Battle 06 = Red/Blue Intro 07 = Viridian City 08 = Heal 09 = Bike 0a = Rocket encounter 0b = Victory 0c = Evolution/Safari Zone`
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:35 PM
Also, the EXP bar changes colors with your HP
7:35 PM
Wild pokemon music isn't present? weird
7:35 PM
you'd think it would be considering it was built off of Red and Green
7:36 PM
guess they were in the process of overwriting music for the new music
borb 5/31/2018 7:36 PM
i'd imagine it's something like that
L95 5/31/2018 7:37 PM
enjoy vs gym leader in the meantime hehe
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:37 PM
are you even able to see team rocket in the demo areas?
7:37 PM
i know they exist on the outside
borb 5/31/2018 7:38 PM
hmm, i didn't spot any but I didn't battle every single npc
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:38 PM
the warp from the new bark town area is weird
7:39 PM
it's a solid mountain wall that warps you into a new area.
borb 5/31/2018 7:39 PM
i completely missed it on my first try...
7:39 PM
"oh welp, there's a tree in my way and no CUT in sight"
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:40 PM
So much for reviving a pokemon if it faints
7:40 PM
The pokemon center doesn't work
Noel 5/31/2018 7:41 PM
did any of you notice that there's an infinite runner sort of game with pikachu where you collect music notes if you wait on the title screen?
L95 5/31/2018 7:43 PM
I did a quick search here to see if it was mentioned or not, but is it possible the picross game is related to this? https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Picross_(Game_Boy_Color)
Pok%C3%A9monPicross(Game_Boy_Color)
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 7:46 PM
gonna make a script to screenshot all the sprites (less effort than actually extracting from the rom tbh) although I can't figure out what to poke to force shinys
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:46 PM
Wild pokemon fleeing behavior is working in the prototype
7:46 PM
I just had a Caterpie flee at the start of battle
blueskyrunner 5/31/2018 7:46 PM
The Pikachu minigame isn't endless
Noel 5/31/2018 7:46 PM
ah
blueskyrunner 5/31/2018 7:46 PM
Once you get 200 notes, you reach a Jigglypuff
7:46 PM
Then it returns to the title screen
7:46 PM
And the flames are replaced with music notes
MysticSageJosh 5/31/2018 7:46 PM
TCRF's ads just don't load
7:46 PM
they say i blocked it
7:47 PM
i didn't do anything (edited)
eientei 5/31/2018 7:47 PM
@L95 No, completely different layout
Noel 5/31/2018 7:47 PM
sometimes I get into two wild encounters without moving on the same grass tile
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:47 PM
I wonder if the flames being replaced is a vram bug or not...
7:47 PM
sounds more like an easter egg really
blueskyrunner 5/31/2018 7:49 PM
Yeah, if you go to the start/option screen then cancel out the flames get replaced then too
7:49 PM
So I'm assuming there's some kind of bug there
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:50 PM
Sweet kiss has a different animation
7:51 PM
at least I think anyway
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:51 PM
sweet kiss has an angel come down near the enemy and a heart shows up
7:51 PM
in the final game i mean
7:51 PM
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:53 PM
Yeah the Angel is a lot more realistic in the prototype
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 7:53 PM
spite uses a grim reaper for its animation instead of the devil-esque creature
7:54 PM
and safeguard has crosses instead of stars
Glisp 5/31/2018 7:55 PM
Seems ho-oh being a sillhouette is a go by this point
7:57 PM
Hey speaking of legendary pokemon, where are serial codes being distributed for Shiny Zygarde?
7:58 PM
I'm glad I didn't want to do any work on Trespasser or Morrowind articles today on TCRF btw
7:58 PM
That would be a disaster
7:59 PM
I found out you can force musical notes to appear on the title screen without playing the minigame. Just press A on the title screen and hold and while holding, press B to go back to the menu
7:59 PM
er the title screen
8:00 PM
Not really sure what the point is
8:00 PM
just kinda odd you can do that without playing the minigame
blueskyrunner 5/31/2018 8:01 PM
I would assume that's not intentional
Glisp 5/31/2018 8:02 PM
Pidgey's still using Gust as a starting move at this point
8:05 PM
in the final, gust was replaced with Tackle as its starting move, meanwhile gust is learned a few levels later
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 8:10 PM
i found some dev notes in patapon 3 about text coloring, appearance, and sizing
8:10 PM
theres so much...
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:47 PM
Hey...
8:47 PM
It says the english version of the demo is available (edited)
8:48 PM
But where do i find it?!?
Hyperboreal 5/31/2018 8:48 PM
I don't think it's done yet
Glisp 5/31/2018 8:48 PM
So I'm testing out the battle debugger
8:48 PM
apparently trainer 18 isn't misty
8:48 PM
it's Kurt!
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:48 PM
@Hyperboreal
Glisp 5/31/2018 8:48 PM
Hyperboreal 5/31/2018 8:49 PM
Huh
Glisp 5/31/2018 8:49 PM
Also battle debugger for trainers is broken
8:49 PM
well moreso they don't have any assigned rosters
8:50 PM
So the game hangs the second they attempt to send out a pokemon
8:50 PM
presumably because they're trying to send out 000
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 8:51 PM
is this tin tower? sprout tower?
Nex 5/31/2018 8:51 PM
just empty trainer data
Xkeeper 5/31/2018 8:51 PM
discussion of this is also going on in #prototypes fyi
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 8:52 PM
why does Kurt have a battle sprite in this proto anyway?
Hyperboreal 5/31/2018 8:52 PM
To battle, I guess
blueskyrunner 5/31/2018 8:52 PM
Interesting, so Kurt's actually in this to some degree
8:53 PM
According to that Google doc, Apricorns aren't in this
8:53 PM
Or at least not in the item list
8:53 PM
I wonder if this means Kurt had a different role?
Hyperboreal 5/31/2018 8:53 PM
Recall that R/B had a dummied out Oak fight
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:53 PM
So...nobody knows where the download link is?
8:53 PM
I showed that it is available
Slashy 5/31/2018 8:53 PM
How do people datamine Switch games?
MysticSageJosh 5/31/2018 8:54 PM
I know where the download link is
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 8:54 PM
this proto also has a trainer class for oak
Slashy 5/31/2018 8:54 PM
Or at least did before Homebrew.
Hyperboreal 5/31/2018 8:54 PM
The document says it's still underway, so one of the statements in the document is incorrect
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:54 PM
Well @MysticSageJosh says he knows where to get it so thanks
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 8:54 PM
one of the things that's incorrect is Giovanni being part of the elite 4
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 8:54 PM
download link to what
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:55 PM
To the english version of the demo
Hyperboreal 5/31/2018 8:55 PM
@DarthDubඞ the english translation
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 8:55 PM
oh that still needs to be made
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:55 PM
No it was already released (edited)
MysticSageJosh 5/31/2018 8:55 PM
i thought you meant the japanese version
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 8:55 PM
wait what
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 8:55 PM
this would definitely be the day care
8:55 PM
i'm sure of it
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:55 PM
@MysticSageJosh No...i know where to get that
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 8:55 PM
or not. i guess not
8:55 PM
why does it have a fence then...?
MysticSageJosh 5/31/2018 8:56 PM
nah
8:56 PM
daycare seems..
8:56 PM
plausible
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 8:56 PM
looks more like remnants of that house from that bike route from gen 1
Hyperboreal 5/31/2018 8:56 PM
It's being translated, and from everything I hear, it's going to take at least a month to be released (edited)
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 8:56 PM
i said 'i guess not' because there's what looks like a bunch of karate guy npcs inside
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:56 PM
Testing
8:56 PM
Hm...
GerbilSoft 5/31/2018 8:57 PM
current status of linode support: https://tcrf.net/images/2/24/TCRF-SucksIcon.gif
Glisp 5/31/2018 8:57 PM
there's actually a lot of trainers
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:57 PM
Well tcrf.net went down
GerbilSoft 5/31/2018 8:57 PM
oh right that won't load
8:57 PM
lol
Glisp 5/31/2018 8:57 PM
I'll go in and test them out in a bit
8:57 PM
save states
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 8:57 PM
also the building is a lot longer inside than it looks
GerbilSoft 5/31/2018 8:58 PM
current status of linode support: https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/438367676616933387.gif?v=1
blueskyrunner 5/31/2018 8:58 PM
That's kind of a running theme in this proto
Deleted User 5/31/2018 8:58 PM
what a day
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 8:59 PM
wow ok so now theres a town where i think somethings fucked up cause like
8:59 PM
all the npcs use the player's sprites
Glisp 5/31/2018 8:59 PM
https://imgur.com/a/2phkNdK unofficial but these look nice
9:00 PM
They're ken sugimori styled drawings of the baby pokemon
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:00 PM
hey the gif loaded gerbilsoft
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:02 PM
Ugh...i wish the english version was released
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 9:02 PM
this pokemon center's just missing a nurse joy altogether
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:02 PM
still better than nurse joy being there and not healing your pokemon
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 9:02 PM
hops the counter and heals my pokemon myself
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:02 PM
How are you playing a game you cant even understand?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:02 PM
trial and error
f(x)^3 5/31/2018 9:02 PM
So after looking around SC3000, I have determined one thing the cheat function is annoying
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:03 PM
by being a wizard
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:03 PM
the translation isn't coming until next month
blueskyrunner 5/31/2018 9:03 PM
Paitence, guys
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 9:03 PM
well at least its the last day of the month
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:04 PM
i'll probably make vc injects for 3ds when that drops
MysticSageJosh 5/31/2018 9:04 PM
next month like
9:04 PM
at least
9:04 PM
translation is hard
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:04 PM
yeah
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 9:05 PM
imagine the wait on until somebody inevitably finishes this version for game freak
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:06 PM
Now wenneed to change half of the Pokemon names
9:06 PM
To make it feel really legit.
MysticSageJosh 5/31/2018 9:06 PM
..now there's gonna be like
9:06 PM
two translations
9:06 PM
to appease everyone
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:07 PM
I don't mind.
9:07 PM
It would be a fun thing to do.
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:07 PM
^^^
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 9:07 PM
this man's trapped in unwalkable grass
9:07 PM
somebody save him
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:07 PM
The ironic part is that a lot of the names are changed because they are lazy English words.
9:08 PM
I used to think it was stupid but I totally get now why a Pokemon named Lickk would sound overly simplistic. (edited)
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 9:09 PM
10/10 best store
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:09 PM
Where is the cashier
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 9:09 PM
somebody locked him in the drink fridges
9:09 PM
or whatyever the fuck those are
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:10 PM
i'm the guy on the shelf
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:10 PM
japanese gen 1 had names like
9:10 PM
ghost
L95 5/31/2018 9:10 PM
Ghos
9:10 PM
and Ghost
9:10 PM
and then Gengar
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:10 PM
I say the name for baby Grimer should be Slimby
L95 5/31/2018 9:11 PM
(I don't think it's exactly gengar but I'm too lazy to look it up)
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:11 PM
Slime+Baby
9:11 PM
It was Gangar
L95 5/31/2018 9:11 PM
(thanks)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:11 PM
i wonder if it's a coincidence that ho-oh, togepi, and snubbull are all next to each other on the pokedex
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:11 PM
They were definitely among the first designed.
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:11 PM
since they, along with marill, are the first gen 2 pokemon we were exposed to
xONLYFEET (US East) 5/31/2018 9:15 PM
I did some testing with a few anons on link cable stuff https://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/35751277#p35755960 Gold 97 Pokemon can be imported into Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon!
/vp/ - Pokemon Gold 1997 Link Cable Club info - Pokémon - 4chan
Pokemon Gold 1997 Link Cable Club info - "/vp/ - Pokémon" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to discussing the Pokémon series of video games and shows.
blueskyrunner 5/31/2018 9:15 PM
Whoa, that's cool!
9:15 PM
Probably just the original 151 though, huh?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:15 PM
whaaaaa
xONLYFEET (US East) 5/31/2018 9:15 PM
yeah just the original 151
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:16 PM
I'm pretty sure it doesn't recognize the other 100 because they've got broken/invalid stats
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:16 PM
Falkner is still slot 1
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:16 PM
otherwise they'd just appear as normal gen 2 pokemon
9:16 PM
holy hell, i thought falkner couldn't be any cooler
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:17 PM
slot 2 is a bug catcher for some strange reason...
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:17 PM
it's whitney
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:17 PM
It's supposed to be
9:17 PM
lol
9:17 PM
Guess she doesn't have a sprite yet
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:18 PM
slot 3 is bugsy, slot 4 is morty, slot 6 is jasmine, and slot 7 is blue
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:18 PM
We're going by the final
9:18 PM
This is a prototype
9:18 PM
so the line up may be different
9:18 PM
though prof oak seems in the proper place
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:19 PM
i'm talking about the proto
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:19 PM
Slot 3 is bugsy
9:19 PM
he looks totally different though
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:19 PM
show us
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:20 PM
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:20 PM
whoa
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:20 PM
lmao anyone know how to beat or get around the first rival battle in new game mode
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:20 PM
no gender confusion here, that's for sure
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:20 PM
He's wearing a white tux it looks like
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:21 PM
you can't beat him if you get the water starter
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:21 PM
i chose the fire one
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:21 PM
does he still have the level 10 meowth?
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:21 PM
slot 18 is the slot Kurt's in btw
Noel 5/31/2018 9:21 PM
what pokemon is the bird on Falkner's arm supposed to be
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:21 PM
he has a full team of over leveld stuff
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:22 PM
slot 18 is used for an unnamed gym leader with Kurt's sprite
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:22 PM
I think it's proto noctowl
9:22 PM
not positive
L95 5/31/2018 9:22 PM
nonspecific bird pokemon
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:22 PM
wait no
9:22 PM
my bad
9:22 PM
had to take a second look
9:22 PM
dunno
9:22 PM
generic bird I guess?
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:22 PM
how far does new game mode go because it seems pretty complete so far
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:22 PM
once you talk to the rival, the game ends
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:23 PM
i don't think kurt actually has his own unique slot just yet, all of the elite 4 and slots 18-20 use his sprite
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:23 PM
or if all your pokemon faint
9:23 PM
Hah (edited)
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:23 PM
aw lol really I had my hopes up
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:23 PM
doesn't seem like any of the trainers have defined rosters yet
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:23 PM
if you press select at the title screen and select the 2nd option, you can press b to walk/run through walls
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:23 PM
but that forces you into demo mode
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:24 PM
hmm
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
if there was a way to use cheats thatd be quite helpful lol
divingkxt 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
Greetings people.
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
is this supposed to be silver?
divingkxt 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
Yes.
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
no, that's morty
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
Ah
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
welcome back diving
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
It's funny
blueskyrunner 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
According to the Google doc, there is more after the rival battle, but of course you have to get past it...
Nex 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
hi diving
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
that's his early design and his early name is attached to it
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:25 PM
he looks like Paul from the dp anime
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
he really does
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
Yeah the question is how the hell do you lmao
divingkxt 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
I see the Pokemon Gold demo was leaked earlier than expected.
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
we also have silver too
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
blame 4chan
divingkxt 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
I was wondering why TCRF was barely accessible.
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
they can't wait to spoil things
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
this is the holy grail of prototypes
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
yeah loads of traffic
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:26 PM
this is like Earthbound 64 level of legendary
9:27 PM
does anyone here know who found/had this and how they got it
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 9:27 PM
youre only like the 10 millionth person to ask
9:27 PM
and to receive the answer "no one knows"
divingkxt 5/31/2018 9:27 PM
There's conflicting stories for its origin.
Nex 5/31/2018 9:27 PM
my uncle who works at nintendo stole it
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:28 PM
well whoever they are I wonder if they have more spaceworld stuff
Air Cutter Gyarados 5/31/2018 9:28 PM
is xkeeper in this discord?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:28 PM
yes
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:28 PM
yes
divingkxt 5/31/2018 9:28 PM
And considering how high profile Gold and Silver is, we may never know.
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:28 PM
xkeeper says all of the stories surrounding how the beta was obtained are false
Nex 5/31/2018 9:28 PM
they should rather stay unknown
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:28 PM
just put it as speculation
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:28 PM
Yeah who got it doesn't really matter I just wanna know how
!registerkey PPLTOasT 5/31/2018 9:29 PM
the chances of us finding out are about as slim as bulbapedia believing this proto is not a hoax
9:29 PM
that is to say, close to 0
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:29 PM
and both versions no less
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:29 PM
Pryce is using a Junior Trainer Male sprite
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:30 PM
i didn't know tcrf had a discord Ive never been active with community members
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:30 PM
Jasmine
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:30 PM
I just contribute to the wiki when I can
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:30 PM
it's unofficial
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:30 PM
They downgraded her
9:30 PM
in the final game i mean
9:31 PM
i wish we could see an early version of clair
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:31 PM
chuck is using a pokemaniac sprite
9:31 PM
Clair's next
9:32 PM
A Super Nerd? Seriously?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:32 PM
so clair is slot 8
9:32 PM
what you thought what chuck is actually meant to be blue
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:33 PM
Clair seems to have gotten hairy
9:33 PM
XD (edited)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:33 PM
pryce and clair are both replaced by trainers named "okera" and "gama" respectively
divingkxt 5/31/2018 9:33 PM
I'm still amazed the Spaceworld 1997 demos were found and dumped at all. It's like dreams come true for the young child in me. (edited)
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:34 PM
Whitney is using a bugcatcher sprite as well
9:34 PM
Silver hasn't changed a bit....other than his coloring...
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:34 PM
i know right?
Nex 5/31/2018 9:35 PM
once in a while miracles do happen
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:35 PM
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:35 PM
ikr diving
Nex 5/31/2018 9:35 PM
went batshit insane when oblivion psp leaked not too long ago
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:36 PM
I hope SM64 beta leaks some day
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:36 PM
Trainer 11 is.... you
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:36 PM
Even though it is probably really similar to the final
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:36 PM
these were literally my number 3 Prototype I most wanted to play
9:36 PM
behind Earthbound 64 and all the misc versions of OoT
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 9:37 PM
pre child link being added is what i want to play
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:37 PM
Trainer 12 is also using the player sprite (edited)
9:37 PM
Though, it's that in the final as well
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:37 PM
Mario Sunshine prerelease would be pretty great too
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:37 PM
Oh yeah
9:38 PM
Conker
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:38 PM
Trainer 14 and onwards use kurt as a sprite
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:38 PM
honestly anything from nintendo from the N64 to early GameCube era would be legendary af (edited)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:39 PM
i want that build of banjo kazooie that was used in the promotional VHS
9:39 PM
or one where the giant's lair still exists
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:39 PM
Was the original villain not Grunty?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:39 PM
no, it was always her
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:39 PM
Huh
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:40 PM
giant's lair was just the name of the hub world for some reason, and it was drastically different
Slashy 5/31/2018 9:40 PM
Was there an entirely different hub?
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:40 PM
apparently the original pokemaniac and the new pokemaniac are in the rom
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:40 PM
still trying to figure out how to get passed the first rival battle lmaoooo
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:40 PM
we've apparently never actually seen the giant's lair
9:40 PM
just a test level that was named that by fans
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:41 PM
9:41 PM
Pryce uses the Gen 1 pokemaniac sprite
9:41 PM
also, this pokemaniac is notably less creepy than the final's and gen 1's (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 5/31/2018 9:43 PM
Funny thing
9:43 PM
みかん means orange in japanese
9:43 PM
I know it was in katakana
9:43 PM
But i thought that that would be an interesting thing to note
Hi-C 5/31/2018 9:43 PM
How are you fighting Pryce? (edited)
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:43 PM
9:43 PM
protect him
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:43 PM
So cute
leilei 5/31/2018 9:44 PM
is that a slime rancher cat slime
tape 5/31/2018 9:44 PM
spherechu
9:44 PM
no, hoppip is
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:44 PM
9:44 PM
protect!!!
tape 5/31/2018 9:44 PM
dogy
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:45 PM
so apparently most pokemon have their stats just set to 50
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:46 PM
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:46 PM
yup that's broken
9:46 PM
i like this youngster sprite
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:46 PM
Not sure who this is supposed to be
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 9:46 PM
sad kid
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:46 PM
Possibly a schoolkid
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:46 PM
9:46 PM
!!!!
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:46 PM
which slot is it?
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:46 PM
I want all of these
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:47 PM
24
9:47 PM
23 crashes the game
9:47 PM
which would be the school kid's in the final
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:47 PM
24 is listed as "Bird Keeper Fledgling"
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:47 PM
Weird
9:47 PM
doesn't look like one
9:47 PM
in fact, he looks like a kid picking his nose
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:47 PM
fledgling is supposed to be its actual class, I'm assuming
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:48 PM
anyone know of a way to make the debug menu work in new game mode
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:48 PM
doesn't seem to really fit the theme of a bird keeper
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:48 PM
no no, i think the bird keeper thing is just a mistake
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:49 PM
Well, the bird keeper is actually slot 24 in the final
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:49 PM
most trainers have two classes assigned to them because there's no actual names implemented yet
9:49 PM
so you get things like "Lass Lass"
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:49 PM
I see
9:49 PM
Then perhaps it is the schoolkid sprite (edited)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:50 PM
slot 23 is assigned to a schoolkid
9:50 PM
but like you said it crashes the game
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:50 PM
if i take one more step hes gonna kick my ass with a level 150 starter lmao
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:51 PM
Well, it could be that numbers got shifted at some point
9:51 PM
Regarding the schoolkid being there in said slot
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:51 PM
slot 43 apparently uses the rival.sprite from gen 1
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:51 PM
makes sense that hes in the game because hes Oaks assistant
9:52 PM
or at least im pretty sure thats him
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:52 PM
that is him
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:53 PM
Is this what the tamer looks like in RBGY?
9:53 PM
been a while
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:53 PM
he has a different sprite in gen 1
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:53 PM
Ah
9:53 PM
seems they may have planned him for Gen II at one point
9:53 PM
he ultimately got the axe though
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:53 PM
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:53 PM
Right
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:54 PM
several trainers still have whips in this proto
9:54 PM
they were all.removed in the final game
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:54 PM
that kinda looks like Bugsy?
9:54 PM
a little
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:54 PM
Scroll up and you can see prototype bugsy
9:56 PM
actually, that guy above may actually be cooltrainer Male
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:56 PM
9:57 PM
this cant be done
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 9:57 PM
Nice colors
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:58 PM
female cooltrainer
9:58 PM
looks very much like her final design, except for the pose and the whip
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:58 PM
what is it with these whips
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:58 PM
It was a thing with the cooltrainers in Gen 1 as well
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:58 PM
because you gotta learn them pokemans good
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:59 PM
The Rockets had whips too
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:59 PM
i know, there were so many in gen 1
Deleted User 5/31/2018 9:59 PM
my favorite gen 1 trainer sprite is the fat dude with the bellspout on his dick
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:59 PM
I'm assuming they removed them cause animal cruelty and all that
9:59 PM
oh, the cue ball
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:59 PM
Just also remembered, the female cooltrainer's hair is different from the final
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:59 PM
yeah i remember looking at that sprite and thinking "why does he have a mushroom sticking out from there?"
Glisp 5/31/2018 9:59 PM
Whips aren't actually meant to be used to beat animals with
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 9:59 PM
it's supposed to be a codpiece
10:00 PM
which isn't much better
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:00 PM
they're meant to scare them
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 10:00 PM
10:01 PM
Anyways that's the only meme I'm ever posting in this chat
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:01 PM
Beauty's looking hot as ever
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:02 PM
i prefer her hair here
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:03 PM
10:03 PM
What the Rocket grunts look like
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:03 PM
it's an update to his gen 1 sprite instead of being styled after the grunts from the anime
Ketsuban 5/31/2018 10:04 PM
Hey, they're Team Rocket Member Saama, not Rocket Grunt!
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:04 PM
Same slot too
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:04 PM
huh, i wonder if they had names originally
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:05 PM
Next slot is Gentleman in the final, but to me it looks like a male version of the teacher, complete with pointer
Ketsuban 5/31/2018 10:06 PM
Oh wait, no, that's not necessarily a named Grunt. The name is gibberish.
10:06 PM
And ロケットだんいん is the Japanese name for the Rocket trainer class in Gen 1.
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:06 PM
Skier is using his sprite as well
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:07 PM
yeah, that's a male teacher
10:07 PM
the next a lot should be a female teacher
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:07 PM
It seems there WERE male teacher....oh ninja'd
10:07 PM
Yeah
10:08 PM
she looks a lot meaner than the final iteration
10:08 PM
She looks like she's about to beat you with her pointer
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:08 PM
she looks like she's about to fall over to me
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:08 PM
that too
10:08 PM
lol
10:08 PM
also, lol those boobs
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:08 PM
also you can tell that these sprites are still done in gen 1's artstyle
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 10:09 PM
:lennyface:
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:09 PM
that's like, misty/sabrina's face on that teacher
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:09 PM
the prototype gen 2 legendaries look like some deviantart romhack shit
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:09 PM
wait those aren't boobs
Dos 5/31/2018 10:09 PM
they do and i love them
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:10 PM
it's a ribbon
10:10 PM
no wonder it looked odd XD
10:10 PM
I kinda like Rai's design really
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:10 PM
i like all 3 of them
☎ 5/31/2018 10:10 PM
baby pokemon look pretty cute
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:10 PM
Yeah, they all look pretty cool
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:10 PM
the baby pokemon are literally the greatest and i want them
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:11 PM
no substitute for the final iterations though
10:11 PM
That baby meowth is like so cute
☎ 5/31/2018 10:11 PM
Baby pokemon plushies would be nice
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:11 PM
Baby Grimer
10:11 PM
lol Grimey, I dunno what to think about it
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:12 PM
to me it seems like they wanted to do more original pokemon instead because the majority of these are babies or new evolutions for gen 1 stuff
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:12 PM
Seems like they also had a larger emphasis on breeding to complete the pokedex early on
10:13 PM
I'm fine with these changes
10:13 PM
but they never brought many of them back
10:13 PM
at least not in their original designs
10:13 PM
some of them got reworked
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:13 PM
they probably wanted to put a emphasis on the new mechanics
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:13 PM
I wonder what this games dev story was because this seems like a 70% complete game from what I can tell
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:13 PM
then decided it was too gimmicky
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:14 PM
Well I heard a story that originally, they were having issues with getting the whole game to fit on the ROM
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:14 PM
seems like they scrapped just about everything and started over for the current version of gold
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:14 PM
that was after this prototype
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:14 PM
Miyamoto came in and taught them how to compress files in the ROM
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:14 PM
Iwata*
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:14 PM
My bad
10:14 PM
but yeah as a result they had way more room than they needed.
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:14 PM
yeah that was probably after this because despite seeming mostly complete this is a pretty small game
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:14 PM
So we got kanto too
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:15 PM
they only faced size issues during the development of the final versions of gold and silver, and iwata was the one who helped them compress things enough that they were able to make kanto work
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:15 PM
seems smaller than even gen 1
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:15 PM
the main game itself had no issues
10:15 PM
it was kanto that was pushing things to the limits
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:15 PM
I thought Kanto wasn't in the original plan though
Slashy 5/31/2018 10:15 PM
Wasn't G/S originally the last game?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:15 PM
kanto is in this prototype
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:15 PM
It was supposed to be yeah
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:16 PM
so we know it was planned for a while
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:16 PM
kanto is partially here yeah
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:16 PM
I meant in its original scale
Slashy 5/31/2018 10:16 PM
Maybe it was meant to be a complete approach to the idea.
Revenant 5/31/2018 10:16 PM
the compression iwata "invented" for G/S is just a minor variant of the compression format HAL had been using since the NES (edited)
10:16 PM
i think that story is kind of exaggerated
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:16 PM
kanto wasn't even able to fit entirely within the game
10:17 PM
several areas are completely missing, scaled down, or inaccessible
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:17 PM
yeah kanto is a freaking wasteland lmao
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:17 PM
35 is supposed to be sabrina, but it uses the Gen II bug catcher sprite
Slashy 5/31/2018 10:17 PM
Honestly
10:17 PM
When OOT3D came out
10:17 PM
I thought it should have had Termina in it.
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:17 PM
slot 35 is named "Leader Manchild"
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:18 PM
10:18 PM
leader manchild?
10:18 PM
what, are they taking jabs at the fanbase there?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:18 PM
it's probably another case of weird naming
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 10:18 PM
who's talking about me again
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:18 PM
manchild was probably another cut class like fledgling
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:18 PM
Majoras Mask 3D taking 4 years to develop is the biggest fucking lie ever told lmao (edited)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:18 PM
or it became the pokefan class
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:18 PM
That makes sense
DarthDubඞ 5/31/2018 10:19 PM
grezzo had issues trying to get the free camera to work
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:19 PM
36 actually IS bug catcher
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:19 PM
a camera doesnt take 4 years
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:19 PM
so I'm guessing it's doing a "Chief" and using the sprite from the next slot after it
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:20 PM
And then in those interviews for OoT 3D and how they were saying they recreated all the famous glitches (edited)
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:21 PM
Fisher and his cigarette
10:21 PM
doesn't look much different from his finalized iteration
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:21 PM
36 is named "Bug Catcher Bug Catcher Boy"
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:21 PM
Grezzo are a bunch of liars
Color Printer 5/31/2018 10:21 PM
i can't believe i saw all the babymon but i never saw this beautiful specimen on twitter until i opened up the spritesheet
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:21 PM
wonder if there was a female equivalent
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:22 PM
He kinda reminds me of whiscash
10:22 PM
but then again, so does Qwilfish's evolved form
10:22 PM
I think some pokemon designs were actually merged for later generations
10:23 PM
I also think Pinsir's evolved form was resdesigned and became Heracross
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:23 PM
10:23 PM
isnt this thing in newer gens
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:23 PM
Sneasel
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 10:23 PM
Oh
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:23 PM
That's what that is
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 10:23 PM
Thought it was meinfoo
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:23 PM
I hate gen 5 and beyond so idk much
10:24 PM
yeah meinfoo
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:24 PM
Now that you mention it, it kinda does look like meinfoo
10:24 PM
But yeah, that's what Sneasel was originally intended to look like
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:25 PM
10:25 PM
i love this sprite
10:25 PM
hes like
10:25 PM
"woah"
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:25 PM
That's used in Pokemon Red and Blue actually
10:25 PM
a lot of the Gen 1 pokemon sprites are recycled from Japanese blue
Dos 5/31/2018 10:25 PM
Sneasel is based on kamaitachi which meinfoo/meinshao also look very inspired by so i'm not surprised
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:26 PM
the trainer classes i don't recognize are:

- 18-20: Trio
- 24: Fledgling
- 26: Prodigy
- 33: Teacher Male
- 42: Engineer
- 43: Rocker
- 46: Rock Climber
- 51: Sportsman
- 55: Hooligan
- 54: Fortune Teller
- 58: Soldier

Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 10:26 PM
Also when I first glanced at this I thought it was gorochu, lol
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:26 PM
Hooligan?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:26 PM
engineer and rocker were both in gen 1, but not in gen 2
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:26 PM
That sounds like Cueball
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:26 PM
I didn't really know what to expect when I first loaded this rom so to immediately see that was insane
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:26 PM
ooh you might be right
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:27 PM
Im surprised at how basically none of this gen 2 roster made the cut
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:27 PM
His japanese name should be on bulbapedia
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:27 PM
very few carried over
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:28 PM
Well if we're lead to believe those concept arts were recreations of what the author saw, and not official, then that may mean that Chikorita had a very different design at one point
10:28 PM
mainly, because if you look at its second evolution, it looks nothing like the other two
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:28 PM
"When paired with Bikers in Double Battles, they are called Hooligans."
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:28 PM
yeah that 2nd evolution is weird as hell lol
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:29 PM
someone suggested it's a cocoon type thing like.metapod
10:29 PM
i don't see it
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:29 PM
Dos 5/31/2018 10:29 PM
the middle evo kinds of reminds me of Flabebe
10:29 PM
10:29 PM
little thing steering a flower
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:29 PM
it does lol
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:30 PM
But yeah, more than likely they were redesigning the Grass starter at this point
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:30 PM
i wonder where the soldier trainer class would've even fit
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:30 PM
I dunno
10:30 PM
a lot of the later entries just crash the game
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:30 PM
10:31 PM
these were probably for them
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:31 PM
They're literally based on guns in the prototype
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:31 PM
also rock climber and hiker are also distinct instead of being the same thing, which is odd
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:31 PM
well actually, Octillery is a fucking tank
10:31 PM
which is badass
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:31 PM
the evolution makes more sense this way
10:31 PM
I never understood why a fish turns into an octopus
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:32 PM
It's possible they changed it because of ESRB
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:32 PM
honestly i disagree
10:32 PM
at the risk of sounding like an arrogant prick, i was just discussing what probably happened here in the prototypes channel
10:32 PM
probably a simple innocuous case of revision making them less overwhelmingly obvious
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:32 PM
That's possible too
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:32 PM
`[12:22 PM] bookofholsety: of course occasionally you find something that it's abundantly obvious why this would've been changed [12:22 PM] bookofholsety: [12:22 PM] bookofholsety: i am absolutely not surprised they felt the need to tone these two down [12:22 PM] Nex [βeta Version]: needs more jpeg [12:22 PM] bookofholsety: sorry, it's just what i had on hand [12:22 PM] MK: Yeah it was too blunt. Nowadays Remoraid is easy to not be seen as a revolver [12:23 PM] MK: until it's pointed out anyway [12:23 PM] bookofholsety: if you stare at remoraid long enough you can at least see the influence [12:23 PM] Badsy the Edgecat: it wasn't until just now that i noticed the revolver part of remoraid [12:23 PM] bookofholsety: especially when dexes and spinoffs start talking about its accurate water gunning [12:23 PM] bookofholsety: but see this is the value of revision and reworking [12:24 PM] bookofholsety: turning ideas with all the subtlety of an eight-ton anvil into something that conveys the idea more gracefully`
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:33 PM
though in a US localization, I doubt looking like a gun would fly very well
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:33 PM
oh sure
10:33 PM
but then this was before english localisation of the series began so i'd be curious to know how high in their mind that risk would be
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:33 PM
Probably not very
10:33 PM
lol
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:33 PM
they obviously had no consideration for the overseas audience
Dos 5/31/2018 10:34 PM
SW Remoraid doesn't look like a fish to me at all
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:34 PM
look at all the "banned" episodes from season 1 of the anime
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:34 PM
It wasn't until gen V they started giving a crap about us really
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:34 PM
or jynx
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:34 PM
yeah actually thats right pokemon hadnt even hit america when this was being made
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:34 PM
Yeah, I forgot
10:34 PM
lol
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:34 PM
jynx wasn't a problem until america made it a problem
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:34 PM
the localisation might have been in its early development stages given the timing but
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:34 PM
CERO didn't exist yet either
10:35 PM
Though I doubt looking like a gun would trigger CERO (edited)
Dos 5/31/2018 10:35 PM
i always liked how they localized "Mr. Mime" despite working on games that were going to give that pokemon varying gender
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:35 PM
at that point, let's face it, the jp version always took primacy for just about everything nintendo did
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:35 PM
absolutely
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:35 PM
and no matter how much effort was put into localisations, it wasn't really something high in anyone's minds
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:36 PM
i would like to see that Ditto is a failed Mew clone theory with this unused evolution in the mix
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:36 PM
localisation "censorship" would occur rather than the modern tendency to simply not have that shit in in the first place
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:36 PM
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:36 PM
nintendo of japan didn't care about nintendo of america (or europe's) opinions on anything
10:36 PM
they still kinda don't
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:37 PM
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:37 PM
they don't make games with foreign audiences or localization in mind usually
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:37 PM
now i'm not an expert on the administrative history of nintendo by any means so i can't speak as to the exact timing and cause of this eventual change in policy
10:37 PM
but nonetheless there it is i guess
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:37 PM
the swimmer stayed pretty faithful throughout production
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:38 PM
only so many ways to draw a scrawny dude in a speedo i guess
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:38 PM
anyone wanna try to write gameshark codes for this thing
10:38 PM
specifically an infinite health cheat pls
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:38 PM
they'll be made eventually. Don't worry
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:38 PM
Not really sure why NOA did it but in Gen IV they started censoring speedos
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:38 PM
i want to get passed the rival battle
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:38 PM
yet didn't bother previously
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:38 PM
it kind of makes sense in a way
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:39 PM
they censored gen 2 sprites iirc
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 10:39 PM
better hardware = better graphical detail = better graphical detail on the speedos
10:39 PM
rather than being nondescript black blobs
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:39 PM
yeah they removed the fisher's cigarette
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:39 PM
and gave the ladies less revealing clothes
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:39 PM
female swimmer
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
set CA12 to 02 for infinite health
divingkxt 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
@Glisp General Anti-nudity
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
WHOA
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
THANKS (edited)
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
Hnnnng
10:40 PM
lol
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
it's how I beat rival
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
where's the fanart of this
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
thank you @Deleted User
Chromaryu [3DS person] 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
LOL
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:40 PM
Yeah, she stayed pretty faithful to her final iteration, but juding by the color, she's clearly blonde
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:41 PM
10:41 PM
another downgraded design
10:42 PM
just like jasmine
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:42 PM
Oh right
10:42 PM
Her Japanese sprite winks still though btw
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:42 PM
winking 2 sexy for us
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:43 PM
my god though, her prototype sprite is fucking hot
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:43 PM
exactly
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:43 PM
kinda puts Gen II misty to shame
10:44 PM
10:44 PM
we have it on the wiki but yeah
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:44 PM
i like how you name your mom lmao
10:44 PM
the rarest pokemon of all
10:46 PM
has anyone experienced random crashes during new game mode
10:46 PM
like for no reason
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 10:46 PM
and like. in new game mode
10:47 PM
i don't think u even see ur mom
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:47 PM
lol, this super nerd sprite made me chuckle
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 10:47 PM
me
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:47 PM
he saw swimmers boobs (edited)
f(x)^3 5/31/2018 10:47 PM
I've been sitting here getting a headache trying to figure out the hashing function for Sim City 3000's strings (that get passed into the cheat function and get compared by hash), trying to find a debug cheat and I just realized a) the debug vtable is stored in a global variable b) I at least know where one cheat gets activated so this entire time I could've just hooked that cheat activation, and called the debug window function instead of tracing function call after function call after function call (edited)
10:48 PM
WELP
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:48 PM
I dunno what it is about that sprite but I find it hilarious
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:48 PM
hes seen some shit
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:48 PM
XD
10:48 PM
I hope he doesn't become a meme like down syndrome sonic
MysticSageJosh 5/31/2018 10:49 PM
he's crying in the corner because he saw his parents
10:49 PM
uh
10:49 PM
nvm
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:49 PM
@Hugette Hikari You gotta see that Super Nerd sprite XD
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:50 PM
it looks to me like you just walk in on him sitting by himself
10:50 PM
like
10:50 PM
"....hellooooo"
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:50 PM
He's like "sup? Wanna play with my pokemon?"
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:51 PM
i think BGBs fast forward is unstable
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:52 PM
Engineer
10:52 PM
Slot 42
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:52 PM
they actually drew a new sprite for him
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:52 PM
Slot 42 is Silver's Kanto sprite in the final
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:53 PM
is the guy in your room in new game mode supposed to be your brother
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:53 PM
43 crashes the game
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:54 PM
oh wait i just realized
10:54 PM
names didn't exist at all in this build
10:54 PM
just trainer classes, like gen 1, i was misreading the spread sheet
10:55 PM
i just now realized it when you said slot 42 is the rival in the final game, because the spreadsheet says the same thing
10:55 PM
so what happened with the unused kid sprite was that it was an unused trainer class that was replaced with a bird trainer in the final game (edited)
10:57 PM
43 shouldn't crash the game, somebody had to have found out that it uses the rival sprite from gen 1 by fighting it
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:57 PM
the infinite health thing isnt working for me @Deleted User
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:58 PM
It may be possible that some of them are crashing because they aren't bring up valid rosters
10:58 PM
I keep getting crashes though
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:58 PM
hm, i remember a similar thing happening if you tried to force a professor oak encounter in red/blue through gameshark
Deleted User 5/31/2018 10:59 PM
x.x
Glisp 5/31/2018 10:59 PM
depends upon how you forced it
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 10:59 PM
i tried to change the rival fight into a professor oak encounter
10:59 PM
the game crashed every single time
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:00 PM
I used a code that made NPC's I talk to become professor Oak
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:01 PM
Might have to try checking RAM yourself for a Pokemon's stats then
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcayQInka-c
glitchhunter09
Pokemon Red: Battle With Professor Oak
11:01 PM
A very old video I did
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:01 PM
there's HP, MaxHP, Attack, Defence... stored as consecutive 2-byte values (edited)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:01 PM
yeah this is what i was trying to have happen
11:02 PM
but instead the game just crashed
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:02 PM
damn idk how to do that im an idiot
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:02 PM
How about a code that puts your pokemon over level 100?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:02 PM
shouldn't there be an instant win/kill code
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:03 PM
the rivals team is glitched still might not be 100%
11:03 PM
instant kill would work
11:03 PM
I couldn't find any that recalculated stats in time for rival, since he's the 1st battle
11:03 PM
or infinite health
11:04 PM
im gonna pick the water starter maybe that will have a different outcome
11:04 PM
ok all he has is a level 10 meowth this is possible
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:04 PM
the water starter gives him a level 10 meowth
11:05 PM
it's not possible to beat legitimately
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:05 PM
has to be
11:05 PM
just pure luck
11:05 PM
thats not that hard
11:05 PM
better than level 159 missing no
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:05 PM
Hey, I got the ones that are crashing to not crash
11:05 PM
just lowered the levels
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:06 PM
nice!
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:06 PM
apparently for a lot of entries the game doesn't like level 100
11:06 PM
or level 0
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:07 PM
level 0 freezes the game in the final version
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:07 PM
ok the CA12 02 address is working now
11:07 PM
its not infinite health
11:07 PM
but its a lot of health
11:08 PM
holy shit finally
11:10 PM
i hope the patches that are being worked on make new game mode more convienent
11:11 PM
being able to save would be nice
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:13 PM
ok quick minor question
11:13 PM
i have spent very little time with the gen1 and 2 games in my life so i've been wondering
eientei 5/31/2018 11:13 PM
fast small answer
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:13 PM
was the opening of texboxes always so laggy in the final releases
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:13 PM
no
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:13 PM
makes sense
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:13 PM
no
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:14 PM
So apparently they have pre-determined pokemon in battle test
11:14 PM
doubt it's their intended roster though
11:14 PM
Falkner sent out a level 9 Slowking
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:14 PM
you should be able to see their sprites now then, right?
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:14 PM
yep
11:15 PM
and yes, 43 is indeed blue
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:15 PM
WAIT THE RIVAL STILL ENDS NEW GAME MODE???
11:15 PM
ALL THIS EFFORT FOR NOTHING
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:15 PM
he's called green in this build
ゲームボーイ64 5/31/2018 11:16 PM
because it's japanese
11:16 PM
in japan,
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:16 PM
yes, but here's the problem:
ゲームボーイ64 5/31/2018 11:16 PM
well, um
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:16 PM
there's another trainer called blue in the game's files
11:17 PM
and it's most likely meant to be the kanto gym leader, aka red
ゲームボーイ64 5/31/2018 11:17 PM
ffs dyno why did ou delete that message
11:17 PM
red is the male main character, green is the rival, and blue is....
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 11:17 PM
maybe it actually refers to leaf
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:17 PM
it's odd that there's literally no.mention of red anywhere
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:17 PM
hmmm
bumper3241 5/31/2018 11:17 PM
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:18 PM
no clearly you're fighitng the abstract concept of the colour blue
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:18 PM
just green and blue
ゲームボーイ64 5/31/2018 11:18 PM
blue is best known from either that three-trainer artwork or this
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:18 PM
44 still crashes
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:18 PM
she doesn't exist here
ゲームボーイ64 5/31/2018 11:18 PM
yeah
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:18 PM
these poor children being named after colors
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:18 PM
What's slot 44 supposed to be?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:18 PM
all we know is that red is a gym leader, and "blue" is listed with the other leaders
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
in the final it's Hiker
ゲームボーイ64 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
my avatar is named after a gem, robfozz
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
dumb trivia: if you catch unown Z its backsprite is unown Y
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
It's a hiker that uses a biker's sprite
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
hmmm
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
45 is a biker btw
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
for some reason it crashes regardless of the level I use
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
that chief thing really happens often
MK 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
Would be funny if each Unown's back sprite was the next letter in the alphabet or something
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:19 PM
where it just grabs a sprite from whatever's next in line
11:20 PM
it happens with 46 as well, it uses a burglar sprite and 47 is a burglar
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:20 PM
got him
11:20 PM
sometimes you have to set it to a specific value
11:20 PM
otherwise it doesn't work
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:20 PM
and since 46 is an unused trainer class, we'll probably never know what a rock climber looked like
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 11:20 PM
it was right in front of us all along
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:21 PM
oh, ok
11:21 PM
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:21 PM
I'
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:21 PM
here ya go
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:22 PM
I'd imagine a rock climber would be a younger version of the hiker class
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:22 PM
the sportsman reminds me of the triathletes from gen 3
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:23 PM
Hey Soldier class actually has a sprite
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:23 PM
wild ledyba ran away
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:23 PM
he's actually wearing camo and a backpack
11:23 PM
i guess to make him more recognizable as a soldier
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:24 PM
I'd imagine Soldiers would be found in Vermillion Gym if they were in the game
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:24 PM
rip a random country declaring war on a ten year old
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:24 PM
as well as a few other locations
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:24 PM
yeah, that'd make sense
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:24 PM
wild pokemon actually run away (edited)
11:25 PM
a lot
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:25 PM
11:25 PM
Figured I'd post an image of him anyway
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:25 PM
they do that in gen 2 normally but nowhere near this often, and it's only a very specific set of pokemon
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:25 PM
maybe they wanted to add some tension to catching stuff
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:25 PM
I was actually surprised they implemented it at that point
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:28 PM
found wild skarmory
11:29 PM
caught it
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 11:29 PM
when pokedex?
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:29 PM
Articuno's back sprite is a little on the terrifying side...
11:31 PM
I mean look at this
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:32 PM
we already have pokedex
11:32 PM
it's almost all just placeholder entries
L95 5/31/2018 11:32 PM
skreee
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:32 PM
It's a lot worse if you're looking at it up close
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:32 PM
apparently umbreon has an entry that describes it sweating poison though
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:33 PM
I dunno why, but that sounds like something I have heard about Umbreon before....
Badsy the Edgecat 5/31/2018 11:33 PM
what does the placeholder entry read
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:34 PM
oh my god this palette
11:34 PM
it makes my eyes hurt
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:34 PM
woah (edited)
11:34 PM
all ive seen is the eye blinding cyan palette
eientei 5/31/2018 11:35 PM
California (October, 2017)
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:38 PM
"Coin Hurl Attacks using money. The richer the owner, the stronger the attack."
11:39 PM
an unused attack
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 11:39 PM
isnt that payday?
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:39 PM
no, pay day is an attack that spawns 50 pokedollars each time its used
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 11:40 PM
oh so its like the opposite
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:40 PM
there has never been an attack that has its strength based on how much money you're carrying
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 11:40 PM
neat
11:40 PM
sounds broken
11:40 PM
when 999999 pokedollars?
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:40 PM
like the mushroom badge in mario and luigi lmao
tape 5/31/2018 11:41 PM
the umbreon sweating poison thing is its entry in the final version of gold iirc
11:41 PM
and in a handful of later games
11:41 PM
up to sun
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:42 PM
I was talking to the guys in the bulbagarden IRC and they think it's legit
11:42 PM
of course, they probably have no jurisdiction over bulbapedia
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:42 PM
it's about time they face reality
11:42 PM
i can't find anything about them being on denial over it though
11:43 PM
i'd like to see what they're saying
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:43 PM
I told them that bulba news wasn't convinced and thought it was a hoax and they laughed saying that it was dumb that they were doing that
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:43 PM
they think this rom is fake?
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:43 PM
Eh some people do
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:43 PM
LOL
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:43 PM
some guy on 4chan is denying all evidence that it's real
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:43 PM
Seems to mostly be the higher ups on bulbapedia
tape 5/31/2018 11:44 PM
what would someone have to gain by faking something like this
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:44 PM
lolbulbapedia
tape 5/31/2018 11:44 PM
it's not just some pokemon sprites
11:44 PM
this entire game is completely fuckin different
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:44 PM
this is the greatest fake of all time if it is
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:44 PM
Chances are it's something like what happened with the Ruby prototype
tape 5/31/2018 11:44 PM
better than the fake bio force ape thread with the butter monster
11:44 PM
?
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:44 PM
where they were reluctant to talk about it
Patapon Fanatic #3 5/31/2018 11:44 PM
most impressive romhack ever if its really fake
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:45 PM
Eventually somebody gave in though
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:45 PM
what ruby prototype dont think i heard about that one
divingkxt 5/31/2018 11:45 PM
There's not even one watermark from this ROM.
11:45 PM
No hacker signature or anything. Not even a cracktro.
11:46 PM
More than what I can say for Stimpy's Invention's prototype.
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:46 PM
there's no remnants of the final gold and silver either
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:46 PM
on the unlikely offchance that it's a fake, i've got to hand it to whoever faked it: including fucking picross was a masterful curveball :P
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:46 PM
I really doubt this is fake
divingkxt 5/31/2018 11:47 PM
Duh. It's not fake in the slightest.
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:47 PM
100% agreed
divingkxt 5/31/2018 11:47 PM
If it were, we wouldn't be covering it.
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:47 PM
bulbapedia is just kind of ass
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:47 PM
Air Cutter Gyarados 5/31/2018 11:48 PM
that ledyba looks like the one ingame
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:48 PM
do we have any proof that this is official artwork?
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:48 PM
it's not
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:48 PM
that doesnt look official lmao
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:48 PM
that's what i thought
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:48 PM
it's an artist's impression of what the player saw
Air Cutter Gyarados 5/31/2018 11:48 PM
oh
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:48 PM
but bulbapedia insists it's early art
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:49 PM
LOL
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:49 PM
hence weirdness like not being able to quite remember what chikorita looks like
11:49 PM
actually matches up with more modern experiences
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:49 PM
and it's been passed around as an early design for silver and ledbya for years (edited)
Chorus Line 5/31/2018 11:49 PM
The prototype was already being covered by glitterberri and co. before being leaked
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:49 PM
trevenant went through the same thing before gen6 hit
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:49 PM
still pretty cool this artist remembered all of this stuff so well
Chorus Line 5/31/2018 11:49 PM
p sure that cements it's real
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:49 PM
only first seen in private screenings of a movie ad
11:49 PM
people tried drawing what they saw to share it with the wolrd
11:49 PM
came out with some wildly divergent ideas of what it looked like
11:50 PM
differing greatly from both what it actually looks like and from each other's takes
11:50 PM
fun
divingkxt 5/31/2018 11:50 PM
Bulbapedia is better than Super Mario Wiki though.
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:50 PM
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:1997_GS_Pokemon.png
File:1997 GS Pokemon.png
11:50 PM
That Ampharos sprite isn't in the prototype (edited)
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:50 PM
i'd argue the only niwa wiki worth a damn is the fire emblem one, and even then it suffers heavily from inconsistent quality
11:50 PM
some pages are meticulously sourced essays
11:51 PM
others are still tiny stubs years and years later
tape 5/31/2018 11:51 PM
if it was fake then chikorita and qwilfish would look like the artist's interpretations
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:51 PM
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Rediba_Silver_Title_Cutscene_Concept.png
File:Rediba Silver Title Cutscene Concept.png
11:51 PM
see, they call it concept art
tape 5/31/2018 11:51 PM
pirate goomba is a pirate goomba
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:51 PM
that said you're absolutely right, the writing style of the mario wiki is physically painful
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:52 PM
11:52 PM
around the same year as the prototype
tape 5/31/2018 11:52 PM
whoever got rid of "klump evilly throws a banana on the floor" and "donkey kong holds a barrel in the darkness" needs to be shown a picture of kirby being sad
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:52 PM
and the fire emblem wiki has a ton of red links and unfinished pages
11:52 PM
also, that art with tyranitar
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:52 PM
ye, is what i'm saying
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:52 PM
there's an explanation for it
Chorus Line 5/31/2018 11:52 PM
There's a lot of work going into the SMW pages
tape 5/31/2018 11:52 PM
at least we still have "diddy is painfully shot"
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:52 PM
I kinda wanna find this magazine now
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:53 PM
this was meant to be a "what if" drawing that ken sugimori did for fun
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:53 PM
oh hi drtapeworm
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:53 PM
not actual gen 2 concept art
MrCheeze 5/31/2018 11:53 PM
https://reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/8nosxv/full_sprite_rip_of_all_pokemon_from_the/
Full sprite rip of all Pokemon from the Gold/Silver prototype, wit...
2 points and 2 comments so far on reddit
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:53 PM
Ah
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:53 PM
people just assume it's gen 2 concept art because it has tyranitar in it
11:54 PM
never mind the fact that nothing else in that picture is ever referenced anywhere else
tape 5/31/2018 11:54 PM
[tinfoil hat] maybe it was gen 1
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:54 PM
it's gotta be gen 2 concept art because it has a pokemon that was in gen 2, and "beta hitmontop"
tape 5/31/2018 11:55 PM
i keep hearing rumors that tyranitar was a concept held over from gen 1
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:55 PM
assets like this are like the world's most efficient rorschach inkblot tests
tape 5/31/2018 11:55 PM
i'm not inclined to believe them
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:55 PM
very revealing about the observer
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:55 PM
a godzilla-esque pokemon was drawn ever since the initial capsule monsters pitch
tape 5/31/2018 11:55 PM
ah
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:55 PM
They removed those other "faked" images of pokemon btw
11:56 PM
you know, the ones that showed the spaceworld pokemon?
tape 5/31/2018 11:56 PM
and iirc one of the names from that image with the cut gen 1 pokemon is "gojira" or something similar, but the sprite is either unseen or blurry
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:56 PM
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:56 PM
i want hat ape pokemon
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:56 PM
I think it might be something around the lines of Gorilla
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:57 PM
goriraimo and gojirante
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:57 PM
Yup
Glisp 5/31/2018 11:57 PM
Well now that I think about it, Hat ape reminds me a lot of Slaking (edited)
tape 5/31/2018 11:57 PM
hat ape is painfully shot by the klaptrap blaster
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:58 PM
HIS COCONUT GUNS
11:58 PM
etc etc
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:58 PM
"Digging Claw Use DIG outside of battle. (HOLD)" "Counter Cuff Counter-attacks foe for 1/4 of damage received. (HOLD)" "Long Tongue Raises POKéMON catch rate. (HOLD)" " Long Vine Raises POKéMON catch rate. (HOLD)" "Mom's Love Heals 1 HP for each step taken. (HOLD)" "Heart Stone Evolves certain kinds of POKéMON." "Poison Stone Evolves certain kinds of POKéMON."
11:58 PM
interesting unused items
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:58 PM
ooooh .
11:58 PM
those sound cool
ƒluƒƒу 5/31/2018 11:59 PM
`"Long Tongue Raises POKéMON catch rate. (HOLD)" " Long Vine Raises POKéMON catch rate. (HOLD)"`
11:59 PM
they can't escape you if you're tying them up and pinning them down
tape 5/31/2018 11:59 PM
where's the ice bikini
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:59 PM
i always liked evolution items i wish they kept these
Hugette Hikari 5/31/2018 11:59 PM
who knows what they were thinking when they removed those items tbh
Deleted User 5/31/2018 11:59 PM
ultra oof .
11:59 PM
hugo .
11:59 PM
probs made the catches too easy ? - ? .
divingkxt 6/1/2018 12:00 AM
I just noticed.
12:00 AM
Delibird has a Santa hat!
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:00 AM
ehhh idk
divingkxt 6/1/2018 12:00 AM
Suddenly, that Christmas episode with the Delibirds makes more sense.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:00 AM
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:00 AM
delibird is based on santa anyway
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:00 AM
i like this better than the final
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:00 AM
red and white, carries a sack around, gives presents
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 12:01 AM
`[2:00 PM] divingkatae: Suddenly, that Christmas episode with the Delibirds makes more sense.` my first thought on seeing this was `One of the worst things about Christmas has to be the mall Santas. Every year these vapid tokens of an overly commercialized holiday pop up all over like clockwork, intending to spread joy and cheer but doing nothing but delivering lackadaisical performances and disappointment. Many a kid's holidays have been spoiled by these mundane avatars of Kris Kringle in what can only be described as a ritualistic assassination of childhood innocence. Truly, they are a blight upon our cultural landscape, and only when they are washed from our social consciousness can some form of dignity begin to return to Christmas. Everything stated in the above paragraph also applies to Delibird.` (edited)
12:02 AM
(via https://www.smogon.com/dex/bw/pokemon/delibird/)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:02 AM
out of all of the places they could've kept in kanto...
MrCheeze 6/1/2018 12:02 AM
stop posting b&w sprites
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:02 AM
we got these:
MrCheeze 6/1/2018 12:02 AM
we got color
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:03 AM
leilei 6/1/2018 12:03 AM
stop doing x. i'm pokemon mater
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:03 AM
KANTO_FISHING_GURU KANTO_DINER KANTO_SCHOOL KANTO_UNUSED_AREA KANTO_ELDERS_HOUSE KANTO_CERULEAN_HOUSE KANTO_EAST_ROUTE
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:03 AM
carve me up please"I can't believe"
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:04 AM
that's not all of them but it's silly that they thought these were important enough to keep
tape 6/1/2018 12:04 AM
i like how gastly and haunter's front sprites look normal but their back sprites are based on the red and blue sprites
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:04 AM
also we got what looks like saffron city
12:04 AM
and a small portion of lavender town
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:05 AM
silph co, the celadon mart, lavender house, kanto league, "kanto league 2", gamefreak HQ, red's house, green's house, oak's lab, and the game corner are also all there
12:05 AM
silph co is still only just one floor though
12:06 AM
"CAVE_MINECARTS_1"
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:06 AM
i wonder if theres more beyond the rival block in new game mode
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:06 AM
12:07 AM
there's 7 "cave minecarts" maps
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 12:07 AM
>minecarts 64 version of mother 3 confirmed for sequel to this prototype
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:07 AM
DKC minecart level
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:07 AM
we already know there's a scrapped minecart sprite in the final game
12:07 AM
so i guess this is where it was used
12:08 AM
also the power plant is a lot bigger and consists of 4 maps instead of just being 1 like the final game (edited)
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:09 AM
There's a minigame in Pokemon stadium 2 where you control Delibird
12:09 AM
And the goal is to deliver more presents than the other delibirds
12:09 AM
so the santa thing isn't new lol
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:09 AM
"OLD_POKECENTER_TRADE" "OLD_POKECENTER_TIME_MACHINE"
divingkxt 6/1/2018 12:09 AM
Last graphic bank with legit GFX uncompressed.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:10 AM
these two maps have working scripts
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/1/2018 12:10 AM
thats some nice text
12:10 AM
i feel like i'm looking at it from an aerial view lol
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:12 AM
the starters arent programmed to evolve huh?
12:12 AM
Ive been grinding and i got the water one to level 26
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:12 AM
someone tested it with rare candies and came to the conclusion that the water starter doesn't evolve until at least 28
Ketsuban 6/1/2018 12:12 AM
IIRC Kurusu isn't set up to evolve for whatever reason, but the other two are.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:13 AM
guess ill try for 28
divingkxt 6/1/2018 12:13 AM
I find it funny how Kanto is just like this little backyard.
12:14 AM
Man, GF were lucky Satoru lent them his compression code.
Ketsuban 6/1/2018 12:14 AM
Oh no, it's Kurusu and Honouguma who are missing evolution data.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:14 AM
still convinced GF is a team of terrible programmers and that their incompetence has finally caught up to them in the modern age
Ketsuban 6/1/2018 12:15 AM
Akua and Volbear evolve at level 32 so most likely they're both supposed to be level 16 and they just forgot to actually hook them both up.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:16 AM
doesnt toadadile evolve in his mid 20s for some reason
Nick 6/1/2018 12:16 AM
@Deleted User Pulseman doesn't seem to be too buggy from what I've played, and that was before Red and Green
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:16 AM
18
12:16 AM
that's when totodile evolves
Ketsuban 6/1/2018 12:16 AM
The final Gen 2 starters are 16 -> 32 for Chikorita, 18 -> 30 for Totodile and 14 -> 36 for Cyndaquil.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:17 AM
i remember totodile taking longer (edited)
Ketsuban 6/1/2018 12:17 AM
That's more to do with Johto's screwed-up level curve.
12:18 AM
You spend an eternity in the 20s because that's right where everything flattens out.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:18 AM
thats probably what im remembering
12:18 AM
this demos difficulty is off the walls too
12:19 AM
idk how you were supposed to legitimately beat any of these trainers if you went to go play this at the tradeshow
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 12:19 AM
you probably weren't
12:19 AM
good tactic to keep people from hogging the demo units forever
12:19 AM
easy game overs = easy pretense to boot people off
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:20 AM
yeah that sounds right actually
divingkxt 6/1/2018 12:22 AM
Can't beat any of the trainers either without hacking the savegame or whatever.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:22 AM
Ive been editiing CA12 to 02 every time i need to heal
12:22 AM
gives you about 500hp
12:23 AM
Kurusu does not evolve at level 28
12:24 AM
whoever said he did was making it up lol
12:25 AM
i think ive done everything in new game mode unless theres more beyond where the rival resets the game
f(x)^3 6/1/2018 12:25 AM
I may have found the hash function in SC3000 finally
12:25 AM
and the devs are sneaky ..
12:26 AM
"Anthony loves to write bad code" looks like some easter egg or debug message
12:26 AM
but it's used directly in the hashing process it looks like
12:28 AM
I think I've found it anyways
divingkxt 6/1/2018 12:28 AM
Devs sometimes love writing cheeky strings as part of a function.
12:28 AM
Normal users aren't supposed to know about it, but it can be easy to find if the dev didn't encrypt it (which is often).
f(x)^3 6/1/2018 12:29 AM
Does IRC require you to tell the server what your client is btw?
12:29 AM
'cause I found these 2 strings `Proprietary IRC client. Not for sale. Proprietary IRC client v1.0 Unknown OS` (edited)
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:31 AM
12:31 AM
I wonder what this place is supposed to be
Dos 6/1/2018 12:31 AM
looks like Aelph
12:31 AM
unless you mean where in Japan
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:31 AM
no lol
12:31 AM
probably is alph
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:31 AM
Dedinitely Aleph
12:32 AM
It has the Unown on it and everything
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:32 AM
wish the loading zone worked
12:34 AM
o o f .
divingkxt 6/1/2018 12:35 AM
I wonder how one can add more Pokemon?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:35 AM
divingkxt 6/1/2018 12:35 AM
I'm trying to find Happa's value in RAM.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:35 AM
theres a loading zone at this poster
12:35 AM
but it pushes you out
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:36 AM
you can't add any more pokemon to gen 2
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:36 AM
Look familiar to anyone?>
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:36 AM
like at most you could pull off like 3 of them
12:37 AM
251 is already dangerously close to 255
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:37 AM
Well.... there is... bank switching
12:37 AM
Dragon Warrior Monsters 2 untilizes it for its monsters
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:38 AM
yeah definitely not impossible
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:38 AM
Not something I'd expect to find in Johto
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:39 AM
i like the spook trees
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:39 AM
That's the desert area
12:39 AM
The town you find going forward has cacti!
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:40 AM
i like the town with the palm trees and mountains
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:40 AM
I honestly love the environment variety in this proto compared to the final
12:40 AM
Yeah!
12:40 AM
And the snowy areas where the roofs are covered in snow!
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:40 AM
i dont think ive seen that one yet
divingkxt 6/1/2018 12:40 AM
Weird how there's musical notes on the Pokemon Gold title screen now.
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:41 AM
It's because of an Easter egg
12:41 AM
If you stay at the title screen, it loads up a minigame where you play as a Pikachu collecting musical notes
------ 6/1/2018 12:41 AM
I wish I was into Pokemon because this sounds super exciting for you guys ha.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:41 AM
im honestly not super into pokemon this is just such an amazing find
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:42 AM
When you complete it, musical notes show up on the title, but due to a glitch just going into the menu and coming back to the title bring up the notes as well
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:42 AM
i only actually like 3 of the gens
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:42 AM
Also, Robfozz, where'd you find that room with the Rocket members?
12:42 AM
I didn't find that while exploring earlier
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:43 AM
its in the town with the weird mountain thing in the middle thats probably ruins of alph
12:43 AM
top left house
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:44 AM
Oh
12:44 AM
I forgot to go in there
tape 6/1/2018 12:44 AM
snowy areas?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:44 AM
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:44 AM
Falkner's gym has a lot more trainers in it than the final
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:44 AM
another loading zone i wish worked
tape 6/1/2018 12:45 AM
wasn't there a boarder trainer scrapped from gen 2 or was that 3
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:45 AM
Yeah, it seems like dungeons weren't started yet here
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:45 AM
i think gen 2 ? - ? .
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:45 AM
There's a gym you can get stuck in
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:45 AM
Every cave you can find has no loading zone at all
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:46 AM
gen 2 has boarders
12:46 AM
they're only in the 7th gym
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:46 AM
I wonder if its because the maps dont exist or the loading zones just arent there
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:46 AM
I hope it's the latter
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:46 AM
same
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:46 AM
Same with potential text
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:46 AM
probs .
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:47 AM
I'd love tfor there to be more story stuff
tape 6/1/2018 12:47 AM
ok the boarders are unused in gen 3, duh
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:47 AM
theres some stuff in new game mode that has text and then doesnt in demo mode
12:47 AM
so maybe we just need to be in new game mode
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
I think I found Azalea Town
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
Which one?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
so wait , is the debug , the space world 97 ' build ? - ? .
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
Yes
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
the one with the duplicates of Ethan everywhere
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
holy fu .
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
That's a lot of towns, Glisp :V
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
bill and kurt are in the same town apparently
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
i just saw a couple of comparisons of some areas being similar to gen 4 areas
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:48 AM
A good number of towns have clones of Gold/Ethan/whatever you call him
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
It's the town with the well in the center obviously
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
or i should say the other way around
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
also. Regarding map exits
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
Oooooooooooooh
12:49 AM
Okay, now I know which one you mean
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
remember that most of the maps don't have functioning scripts
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
Unfortunately orz
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
the map with water in the middle with bridges and a gate at the top is similar to canalave city
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
Also found Golden Rod
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
minus the gate
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:49 AM
Was about to say
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:50 AM
not a big deal though
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:50 AM
goldenrod is kinda obvious on the map
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 12:50 AM
and the snowy area is similar to a certain snowy town in gen 4
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:50 AM
does anyone know how far the rom thats being worked on is gonna take things
12:50 AM
is it gonna restore a bunch of broken shit
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:50 AM
I doubt that
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:51 AM
I think they're just leaving it at translating what's for sure there
12:51 AM
Maybe fix a few bugs
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:51 AM
as far as I know, it's just a translation patch
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:51 AM
dang
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:51 AM
i think people are going to wait until the translation is finished until they start hacking it (edited)
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:51 AM
It's not gonna be, like, a massive restoration thing
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 12:51 AM
if they fix anything it'll probably be any particularly serious game-threatening bugs and nothing lesser
12:51 AM
at least that's how i approached things
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:51 AM
well i dont mean like make it a fully functional game
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 12:52 AM
you're more likely to see someone hack crystal and replace a bunch of pokemon designs
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 12:52 AM
fix the nasty crashes, leave the cute quirks
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:52 AM
the translation project and a potential but likely restoration of the game are going to be two seperate things
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:52 AM
but theres clearly stuff hidden away and is just broken
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:52 AM
Oh, most definitely
12:52 AM
But that'll be in the hands of the fans post-translation
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:52 AM
yeah
12:53 AM
and somebody will finish this game someday
Meloetta 6/1/2018 12:53 AM
Any way to dig into the rom yet?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:53 AM
i know theyre fixing collision which will be pretty good
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:53 AM
maybe they'll fix the skateboard (edited)
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:54 AM
that might be hard it seems pretty fucked
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:54 AM
I could see that happening at least
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:54 AM
I was jumping over houses and shit lmao
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:54 AM
Maybe?
12:54 AM
Maybe not
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:55 AM
the skate board ? - ? . (edited)
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:55 AM
Yeah
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 12:55 AM
honestly i'm a bit surprised at the collision problems
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:55 AM
That's in here, and it's usable, but it's super broken
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 12:55 AM
i always assumed collision states were like, a core part of the tile set definitions
12:55 AM
rather than something evidently done separately later
12:55 AM
my mistake i guess
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 12:55 AM
nope
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:55 AM
that's not how it works
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:55 AM
the collision works if you walkthrough walls around the loading zone
12:55 AM
but then the graphics are fucked
12:56 AM
they probs just coded what the demo allowed . (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:56 AM
tiling and collision is done desperately
12:56 AM
seperately
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 12:56 AM
i suppose that makes more sense
12:56 AM
the more you know i guess
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 12:56 AM
well i mean they probably did both
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:56 AM
the collision is there its just not loading right
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:56 AM
oh wait
12:57 AM
if you use walk through walls to skip loading zones then the collision works outside of the demo area
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:57 AM
literally just said this
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:57 AM
i elaborated because i remembered
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:57 AM
lmao
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:57 AM
found another patch of working grass.
12:57 AM
and it has level 25 pokemon
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:58 AM
the grass also works if you WTW passed loading zones
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:58 AM
ah, did not know that
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:58 AM
havent found any cool spawns
12:58 AM
almost 100% Gen 1
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:59 AM
Hoothoot
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:59 AM
only gen 2 spawns ive found are in the intended demo area
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 12:59 AM
I found Wolfman in the snow area
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 12:59 AM
come to think of it, i'm honestly mildly curious if anyone playing at the original event was able to notice or even hear that the audio is entirely gen1 audio
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:00 AM
Oh, that's actually a good question
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:00 AM
the relatively haphazard assignment makes me suspect the thing was run on mute there but
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:00 AM
Especially with the new mons having Nidoran's cry, too
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:00 AM
oh yeah that's another good point that slipped my mind
1:00 AM
i was distracted entirely by the soundtrack
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:01 AM
Not all of them have Nidoran's cry
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:01 AM
i wish there was some unused music
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:01 AM
They seem to utilize the unused Missingno cries in Gen I
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:01 AM
Which mons have original cries?
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:01 AM
And most of those just happened to be null values
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:02 AM
I thought all the Gen 2 mons had the default?
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:02 AM
Proto hophip
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:02 AM
none of them do
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:02 AM
It doesn't use 000
1:02 AM
it uses another one
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:02 AM
oh wait
1:02 AM
i did hear some other gen 1 cries mixed in there
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:02 AM
There's possibly a couple of others
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:02 AM
am i allowed to live stream the demo ? - ? . (edited)
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:03 AM
Go for it
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:03 AM
thxs .
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:04 AM
Holy shit, wild Girafarig are in the starting area
Zenon 6/1/2018 1:04 AM
You guys heard of the Pokemon Gold prototype leak, or am I late to the party?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:04 AM
lmao
1:05 AM
ur late .
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:05 AM
incredibly extremely late
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:05 AM
@Zenon We are literally fuckin ' talkin ' about the hidden treasures of the game .
Zenon 6/1/2018 1:05 AM
guess I'm a slowpoke then
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:06 AM
Ayyyyyyyyyyy
Zenon 6/1/2018 1:06 AM
Ayyyyyyyyyy
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:06 AM
good night . (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:06 AM
gnight
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:06 AM
G'night!
tape 6/1/2018 1:07 AM
ok poliwrath straight up looks like bad box art megaman i'm crying
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:07 AM
ive been playing this since like 3am
tape 6/1/2018 1:08 AM
these backsprites
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:08 AM
the backsprites make it look like the battles were gonna be in a different perspective
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:09 AM
that's onix's gen 1 backsprite
1:09 AM
actually no
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:09 AM
Hey, that WTW over loading zones crap didn't make the grass work
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:09 AM
it's just angled similarly
AnkyloSource 6/1/2018 1:09 AM
we could have gotten a sideways rpg out of pokemon
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:10 AM
honestly my gut feeling is less that and more a compromise given the limitations of the art style
1:10 AM
especially in gastly's case
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:10 AM
you have to start from an area that has walkable grass @Glisp
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:10 AM
because how the hell do you depict gastly's back while still looking clearly like gastly
1:10 AM
drowzee might also have a similar problem of looking like a yellow blob from the back
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:11 AM
you have to do it from route 1 or silent hills
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:11 AM
i wonder why they got rid of this little pikachu music note game
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:11 AM
and given these are very much the minority i can see them making exceptins for cases like this
MrCheeze 6/1/2018 1:11 AM
stop posting b&w sprites
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:11 AM
stop being dumb
tape 6/1/2018 1:11 AM
these are clearly from gold and silver anyways
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:11 AM
"Starting the game with a save file existing on the cartridge will change the Super Game Boy border to one identical to the final, instead of the one used for the demo. This border is always seen in early magazine photos of the game."
1:11 AM
but how?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:12 AM
yeah i wonder what they mean by that
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:12 AM
does any other sgb-compatible game do that ever
Xkeeper 6/1/2018 1:12 AM
many games change the border on SGB
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:12 AM
not that i know of
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:12 AM
how can you load a save in a game that doesnt save
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:12 AM
o ok, my mistake
Xkeeper 6/1/2018 1:13 AM
Mario's Picross is one that has several different variants
1:13 AM
anyway you can get the save menu if you use the title screen debug menu
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:13 AM
is the border from the silver debug used anywhere else
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:13 AM
All I need now is mayro sunshine proto and my life will be complete
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:13 AM
^
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:13 AM
also it seems like somebody finally put out the fire
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:13 AM
i use bgb emulator
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:13 AM
tcrf is working again
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:13 AM
my god, Girafarig's backsprite is nightmare fuel
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:14 AM
people been sleeping on the silver prototype
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:14 AM
not me
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:14 AM
what if it has valuable differences
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:14 AM
whats with the grass you cant walk in, some messed up collision
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:14 AM
walk through walls from the starting area and it works
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:15 AM
^ every map outside of the demo area has broken collision unless you do that
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:15 AM
but then the graphics are broken so pick your poison
1:15 AM
its weird how lugia isnt even a thing
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:16 AM
what do you mean
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:16 AM
lugia isnt in the rom
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:16 AM
lugia does not exist anywhere in this prototype
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:16 AM
and the silver version title screen is still ho oh
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:17 AM
no to get grass working
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:17 AM
oh
1:18 AM
use the debug mode to walk through walls
1:18 AM
from the beginning area
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:18 AM
it's only weird because of what we've become conditioned to, to have two mascot legendaries, and lugia was always there in the final game (edited)
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:18 AM
I did, grass in non kanto areas you cant walk in
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:18 AM
dont go into any buildings
1:18 AM
it will reset everything
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:19 AM
ah ok
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:19 AM
seems to reset after you encounter a wild pokemon as well...
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:19 AM
yeah that too
1:19 AM
use save states
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:19 AM
it reloads the area every time you go into a battle, that's why
2figs 6/1/2018 1:21 AM
I dunno if anyone has confirmed this already but I caught a shiny Pikachu in the game a couple of minutes ago so I guess despite the game being black and white there's still shinies because he does the sparkly thing when I send him out??
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:21 AM
Wait, does the demo end after a set amount of time?
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:21 AM
yes, shinies are in this game
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:21 AM
pikachu and the sunflower guy are hardcoded to be shiny right
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:21 AM
Yup
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:21 AM
they are
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
You can't even find non-shiny ones of them without hacking
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
the demo shouldnt end @Glisp
2figs 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
lol so much for me feeling special then
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
Why do I encounter pink shinies?
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
I found a few already. rlly want to turn them into pk2 files
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
or pink pokemon?
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
The demo only ends when you fight your rival in front of the gate to Old City
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
pinkachu
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
sometimes my emulator miscolors the battle sprites
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
It ends for me when I finish certain wild battles
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:22 AM
might be a game glitch
1:23 AM
im sure this thing is far from stable
1:23 AM
my game crashed a few times in New Game mode
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:23 AM
Found a wild baby vulpix near proto goldenrod
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:24 AM
A good boy
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:25 AM
found another rocket hideout
1:25 AM
in the city that has all the pokemon in enclosures like fuchsia city in gen 1 (edited)
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:26 AM
I hope this collectors other stuff gets leaked tbh
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:26 AM
is it from a collector?
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:26 AM
no (edited)
1:27 AM
we don't know where it came from
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:27 AM
Oh, I was under the impression it was
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:27 AM
That's a fake rumor 4chan started
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:27 AM
ah
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:27 AM
theres this fucking asshole on youtube who has hundreds of game protos
1:27 AM
and wont dump any
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:27 AM
yeah lol
1:27 AM
steven something (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 1:27 AM
like that guy with socks the cat rocks the hill?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:27 AM
someone needs to rob this mofo
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:27 AM
yeah
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:28 AM
It's frustrating, but there's no need to wish violence on the guy
MrCheeze 6/1/2018 1:28 AM
lugia was invented for pokemon 2000 https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver#Lugia
Prerelease:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:28 AM
Heh, funny how true that is
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:28 AM
socks the cat rocks the hill has been dumped
1:28 AM
what do you mean
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 1:28 AM
oh
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8FdA3lshY
Steven Seventyeight
Mario Kart XXL Nintendo Gameboy Advance Prototype / Demo
1:29 AM
this fucking guy
1:29 AM
personally this is the only thing he has that I care about
1:29 AM
but he has hundreds of protos
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:30 AM
probs some rich asshole who bids thousands for them on ebay
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:30 AM
hes got some chad ass tattoos
1:30 AM
and he holds controllers like a 4 year old whos never played games
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:30 AM
found a spot that resets the collision yay
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:31 AM
Heh, this page mentions the protaganist's brother
1:32 AM
And how the rival was different from Blue
1:32 AM
It's so weird to actually see it in the games though
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:32 AM
Silver looks like an anime girl
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:33 AM
he looks like he always does
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:33 AM
"I like Nintendo prototypes specially NES and Gameboy. You have some for sale ? Let me know :) NOTE: I will NOT release ROMS of any game i have, so no need to ask or email me about it."
1:33 AM
how to be the most hated person on the internet
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:33 AM
bastard
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:34 AM
not if i find him and take them
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:34 AM
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:34 AM
thats the only thing i want
1:34 AM
the rest of his shit i dont really care about
1:35 AM
you got a copy of pokemon yellow during the spanish translation who gives a shit
1:36 AM
if you somehow got it from him youd be a hero
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:36 AM
bellossum has a unique cry
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:36 AM
the only thing i see here that interests me is an NTSC version of mr gimmick, which isn't really much
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:37 AM
yeah that exists elsewhere
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:37 AM
i mean, i know, the game's already available, that's why i don't really care
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:37 AM
yeah test carts are cool
1:37 AM
if he wants money im sure the community can pull through
1:38 AM
he doesnt seem interested in selling but he also doesnt want to "devalue his collection" by dumping roms
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:38 AM
Ayyy
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:38 AM
"Pokemon Red Gameboy Prototype" plays for 2 minutes and does nothing to show any differences
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:39 AM
in fairness people like this are arguably the status quo in the world of prototypes
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:39 AM
yeah that's real convincing
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:39 AM
found this guy
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:39 AM
just about all of the famous ones passed through collectors like this before eventually being sold off to someone who dumped the thing
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:39 AM
all his pokemon protos are in languages other than japanese so theyre irrelavent
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:39 AM
then it's still a clickbait title
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:40 AM
it might not have the significance of a proper prototype but it's still a fun little historical footnote
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:40 AM
Nobody cares about them...well unless it's the infamous "The brock wants to fight" proto
ƒluƒƒу 6/1/2018 1:40 AM
and you never know for sure with those until you actually go digging
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:40 AM
I got really excited about this earthbound prototype but it was also a review copy
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:41 AM
Earthbound didn't change too much during development from what little is known
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:41 AM
i once had a "not for resale" copy of pokemon crystal
1:41 AM
dunno if that counts as anything
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:41 AM
if there's any differences from final
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:42 AM
most of the changes for earthbound were graphical from footage we have but itd still be a cool thing to look at
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:42 AM
there wasn't, it was just the regular game
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:42 AM
There were some obviously, but it pretty much stayed in the proper direction
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:43 AM
for some reason N64 Not for Resales are super valuable but any other system they really arent
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:43 AM
On genesis/mega drive, they're labeled that if they came with the console lol (edited)
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:43 AM
yeah lol like my shitty copy of sonic 2
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:43 AM
I have a copy of sonic 1 with not for resale
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:44 AM
oh that would explain my parents copy of sonic 1
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:44 AM
I used to have a shitload of copies of Sonic 1 and 2
1:44 AM
I sold most of them
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:44 AM
found one of those at a thrift store
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:44 AM
I dont own any genesis games besides sonic 2
1:44 AM
dont care for the system
1:45 AM
oh I also own columns 3 but thats because the cover art is so meme worthy
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:45 AM
I actually found a complete copy of Sonic 2 at goodwill
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:45 AM
most genesis games aren't really any good
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:45 AM
even came with the advertising pamphlet
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:45 AM
i only like sonic 2/3 and streets of rage
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:45 AM
which advertised the little known about and cancelled game, Jester
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:45 AM
1:45 AM
like what the actual fuck is this
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:45 AM
Tetris like game
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:45 AM
who is this man
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:46 AM
that box art though.
1:46 AM
lol
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:46 AM
phalanx for the SNES is still better
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:46 AM
Probably some bum that they paid
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:46 AM
He just shit a pile of precious gems
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:46 AM
me and a group of friends have photoshopped this guy onto a bunch of other shit
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:46 AM
Apparently Columns is on the SNES
1:46 AM
So it's not exactly Genesis exclusive
1:46 AM
The original Columns
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:47 AM
Columns III starring Balding McHairloss as The Gem Shitting Guy
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:47 AM
1:47 AM
columns for the modern generation
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:48 AM
I think it's silly that Columns 2 was arcade exclusive
1:48 AM
It caused people to ask "what happened to columns 2?" (edited)
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:48 AM
Columns lore is complicated
1:49 AM
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:49 AM
the gritty remake by konami
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:49 AM
Has to have a Sega Logo on it too
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:49 AM
this is worth congratulating
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:49 AM
Every time Colums II is off screen, other characters should be asking "Where is Columns II?"
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:49 AM
since it's a Sega IP
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:49 AM
nah just look at the bomberman reboot on 360
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:50 AM
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:50 AM
rofl
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:51 AM
divingkxt 6/1/2018 1:51 AM
@Hugette Hikari Er...I meant adding more Pokemon to my party.
1:51 AM
Because only one is not enough for me.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:51 AM
ohhhhhhhh
1:52 AM
you have 3 random level 5 pokemon in the PC
1:52 AM
you should, anyway
divingkxt 6/1/2018 1:52 AM
Phew.
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:52 AM
Just admit it @Deleted User you like Columns
divingkxt 6/1/2018 1:52 AM
Should be a good starting place for forcibly upping some Pokemon.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:52 AM
i may have a problem
1:53 AM
1:53 AM
if columns came back
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:53 AM
Why would it be AO?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:53 AM
cause nudity
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:53 AM
Action too intense for kids?
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:53 AM
it says right on the box
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:53 AM
it'll be like one of those steam games
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:54 AM
"Hot Fuckin Tits Ass cummies"
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:54 AM
Columns V is PC exclusive
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:54 AM
rated m for cummies
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:54 AM
speaking of steam games, you hear about the disappointment that is Agony?
1:55 AM
They promised the game wouldn't be censored and it was
leilei 6/1/2018 1:55 AM
that ps4 release implies including that one 1994 snes version
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:55 AM
Pissed off a lot of kickstarter backers
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:56 AM
Kickscammer
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:56 AM
1:56 AM
SMW beta boxart
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:57 AM
Haha
1:58 AM
@Deleted User: You're a wonderful lunatic.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:58 AM
i have like 20 more of these i most definitely need help
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:58 AM
Is it possible to go past the rival barrier in the game to progress further?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:58 AM
not in new game mode right now
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 1:58 AM
someone please pin the explaination
1:59 AM
press select at the title screen, select the 2nd option, once you're in game you can hold b to run through walls
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:59 AM
(not available in new game mode)
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:59 AM
Are there walls of unused text that would indicate it goes further? I've seen the map
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:59 AM
we don't know yet
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:59 AM
@Deleted User: I need more, POST MORE.
1:59 AM
lol
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:00 AM
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:00 AM
XD
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:00 AM
if there's an early script, it'll make rebuilding this thing a lot easier
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:00 AM
You are a fast shopper
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:00 AM
no i just have these
2:00 AM
because im a maniac
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:01 AM
Can't wait to see how far into a functioning game this demo was
2:01 AM
Best day ever
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:01 AM
have you hex edited to play the new game mode
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:01 AM
We'll need to de-demo it somehow
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:01 AM
most of the maps have broken collision and don't contain any working scripts
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:01 AM
because it seems more complete than we think
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:01 AM
so it's not very functional
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:01 AM
I'm just watching footage
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:01 AM
you can de-demo it
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:01 AM
Sept 1997 was pretty early, no?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:02 AM
can I upload roms on this server or will i get in trouble
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:02 AM
It's not the sort of thing that is fun to play but fun to read and watch
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:02 AM
considering its on TCRF im assuming its ok
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:02 AM
at the point when this game was demoed, it was 80% complete
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:02 AM
Also anyone here heard of Polaroid Pete?
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:02 AM
whether or not that extends to the demo as well remains to be seen, but it's extremely unlikely
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:02 AM
PGP_NEW_GAME_MODE.sgb
1 MB
2:02 AM
here this is hex edited for new game mode
2:03 AM
it shows that there is scripting in the game
2:03 AM
we just dont know how much yet
Cuenta abandonada 6/1/2018 2:03 AM
is there an English version of the beta? sorry for the bad English
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:03 AM
somebody will have to re-enable/hack in whatever scripts are laying around but are inaccessible
2:03 AM
also not yet, but they're working on a translation now
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:03 AM
@Cuenta abandonada its being translated right now
1
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:04 AM
Notice how there is an over the top amount of cute pokemon designs, probably cause they knew that was the biggest selling point after the release
2:04 AM
All those cat mouths
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:04 AM
Scripts might not need to be hacked in, if somebody could find a way to walk through walls seperate from the debug menu we could find out really quickly (edited)
Cuenta abandonada 6/1/2018 2:04 AM
@Deleted User thanx i waiting
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:05 AM
if it actually does work like we expect it to
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:05 AM
Im assuming New Game mode starts scripts correctly but im probably wrong
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:05 AM
There's still so many information left in the game someone could make a really good beta fan game
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:06 AM
we won't know for sure until we get a way to do it
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:06 AM
it doesnt even need to be a fan game there could be enough here to just be a game
2:06 AM
it just needs to be fixed
2:06 AM
too early to tell
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:06 AM
I hope a genius can work magic then ho.oh appears before them
tape 6/1/2018 2:06 AM
this reminds me a lot of the half life prototype honestly
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:07 AM
from just running around and messing with shit it seems like this is a mostly finished game
2:07 AM
but thats just my guess
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:07 AM
Theres no elite four, team rocket boses or final 4 gym leader sprites tho right?
tape 6/1/2018 2:07 AM
something that was on track to being done but then they started over and made something bigger
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:07 AM
there isn't, not that has been found yet anyway
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:08 AM
yeah they could be in the rom right? everything we have is just from the sprite viewers im guessing
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:08 AM
they don't appear with the trainers they're associated with, at least, all of the elite 4 use kurt's sprite
2:08 AM
the most we have are their names
2:09 AM
also there's no data that's been found yet for any rocket bosses/admins besides giovanni
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:09 AM
So there is still potentially decompiled sprite data, to show more images?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:09 AM
giovani is in the top floor of the radio tower
2:09 AM
obviously cant battle or talk to him tho
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
i mentioned that earlier today
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
This thing will be completely and utterly picked apart over the coming weeks
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
yes
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
yeah this things only been up for a day lol
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
there won't be any secrets left when the experts are done with this
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
We'll know more about it than the people who developed it
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
I look forward to a 3 Part DYKG video on YouTube lol
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
Then again, a lot of stuff was missed in R/B/G/S
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
Amazing @Neko May haha
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:10 AM
i hope this leads to more spaceworld shit
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:11 AM
zelda 64
2:11 AM
come on
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:11 AM
More prototypes! MORE!
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:11 AM
a person can dream
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:11 AM
SATIATE OUR PROTOLUST
2:11 AM
lol
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:11 AM
earthbound 64 literally had dozens of playable demo stations at several shows
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:11 AM
sega lost the sonic 1 prototype apparently
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:11 AM
it has to be floating around (edited)
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:11 AM
Is it true that the person that owned these carts/roms died, it was handed into a store in Kyoto, then someone dumped it.... ?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
probably not lol
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
It's not true
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
probably just a cover story
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
Conspiracy theories
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
nobody knows where they came from rn
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
we don't know exactly how or where this rom was obtained
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
i've heard a similar story before on 4chan
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
Where did they surface?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
sorry for doubting you @Xkeeper ❤
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:12 AM
the team working on the fixed rom probably knows something
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:13 AM
I really hope so, maybe an ex employee just gave them it and didnt want to give away an identity?
2:13 AM
I can't wait to hear
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:13 AM
also the sonic 1 proto was reported lost in like, 2004 or earlier
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:13 AM
Mario kart xxl sucks tbh who cares
2:13 AM
Nothing will top this
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:13 AM
Hopefully it wasn't purchased by a hoarder
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:13 AM
it was
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:14 AM
Fuck
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:14 AM
several things could top this
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:14 AM
^
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:14 AM
Yeah, that's gone, then, the ROM will bitrot
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:14 AM
When has an n64 rom ever been released in beta?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:14 AM
majora's mask demo
2:14 AM
debug roms
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:14 AM
A ROM is only truly preserved when everyone has a copy.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:15 AM
there's probably more
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:15 AM
Glover 2 is 100% completed and playable
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:15 AM
no it's not
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:15 AM
oh the glover 2 prototypes
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:15 AM
I know Mother 3 has a demo, and the devs played a basically finished game to create mother 3 gba, but i mean what are the chances that will ever be dumped...
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:15 AM
If you don't even dump it, you've just got a timebomb
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
it's very obviously not completed
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
yeah i heard about that mother 3 demo
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
40 winks
tape 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
i'm pretty sure glover 2 is just a bunch of empty levels disconnected
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
I just heard it was sorry @Hugette Hikari
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
Because Flash doesn't hold on to data forever
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
there's 2 prototypes @tape
2:16 AM
the really early one is like that
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
a lot of events in glover 2 literally don't work at all or need to be triggered through hacking/using cheats (edited)
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
EPROM, EEPROM, Flash, they all bitrot
tape 6/1/2018 2:16 AM
there's another?? news to me
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:17 AM
yeah a later one that has an actual intro
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:17 AM
yeah there's two
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:17 AM
and more polished
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:17 AM
one is more finished than the other
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:17 AM
Mmmm, I love prototypes.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:17 AM
Can't believe the original sonic 1 rom is lost forever lol
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:17 AM
any Zelda 64 proto, Earthbound 64, and Mario Sunshine are my most wanted protos
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:17 AM
i have more fun with glover 2 than glover 1
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:17 AM
pokemon was on my list too but we just got it
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:18 AM
At least we have all those Sonic 2 prototypes
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:18 AM
glover 2 feels and looks like a copy of a rareware game but I still would have bought and played it
tape 6/1/2018 2:18 AM
any pikmin or pikmin 2 proto with significant differences from the final
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:18 AM
I like glover ngl
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:18 AM
they parodied banjo kazooie
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:19 AM
So strange how the pokemom gold demo surfaced a few weeks after the manga revealing red and blue beta mons, not long after new footage found from the spaceworld 97 demo with hopip and giraf
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:19 AM
Dragon Sword 64? what the heck is this
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:19 AM
yeah i know, it's a really odd coincidence
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:19 AM
and with the announcement of the new games
2:19 AM
this has been a huge time for pokemon lmao
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:19 AM
maybe another canceled n64 rpg?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:20 AM
it plays similar to gauntlet i think
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:20 AM
Best week ever for me
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:20 AM
but not as good
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:20 AM
as if there weren't enough of those already, like every single RPG for the n64 just got canceled
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:20 AM
You think maybe Game Freak is behind the leak?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:20 AM
yeah this prototype is gonna keep me entertained for quite some time especially as stuff gets found
tape 6/1/2018 2:20 AM
the only thing that will make any of this better is if the new pokemon in let's go is crocky
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:20 AM
Honestly this is the best unearthed thing ever, was on my top 3 probably number 1, sonic and mother 3 being the other 2
2:20 AM
Also Polaroid Pete.....
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:20 AM
someone theorized that game freak let this happen on purpose
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:21 AM
Sonic 2 Nick Arcade was an incredible find
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:21 AM
generating hype?
2:21 AM
who would've thunk
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:21 AM
to go along with the reveal of gorochu and those design documents
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:21 AM
Sonic 1 nick arcade you mean no?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:21 AM
you know what, with how we got both versions AND nondebug releases (4 different dumps in total) it very well could be an insider leak
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:21 AM
@MS|EXCEL: No
2:21 AM
It's a Sonic 2 prototype
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:21 AM
i mean, that build basically is just sonic 1
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:22 AM
The new engine is based off the old one.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:22 AM
sega were the original romhackers
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:22 AM
The Wai beta still had Sonic 1 assets, too
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:22 AM
sonic 2 simon wai is one of my favorite protos (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:23 AM
not to the extent of the nick arcade proto, mainly because a lot of work had been done inbetween
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:23 AM
Wow that's new to me
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:23 AM
Whatever happened to him, anyway?
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:23 AM
probably just faded back into obscurity
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:23 AM
theres a shit ton of sonic protos whats the deal with that
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:24 AM
drx got a computer from Sega QA
2:24 AM
Full of prototype ROMs (edited)
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:24 AM
thats pretty rad
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:24 AM
it's not unusual for a game to go through several revisions during its development, but to have all of them leaked like that is just unheard of anywhere else
tape 6/1/2018 2:24 AM
[picture of a skeleton at a computer desk] me waiting for all those ecco the dolphin prototypes to get released!
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:24 AM
he got a massive amount of genesis protos
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:24 AM
there are already some though
tape 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
i mean the buttload that were supposed to be released like years ago
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
More than just Genesis
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
ecco 3 when
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
i mean not just for one sonic game, we have several protos for every sonic game as well as some roms of games that never even happened
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
wasn't the ecco sequel on dreamcast dumped
tape 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
iirc the guy who ran dark sea made a deal with drx to unveil the prototypes on that website
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
every sonic game EXCEPT sonic 1
tape 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
and it just like
2:25 AM
never happened
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
Sonic Crackers became Knuckles Chaotix
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
sonic 1 sucks anyway
tape 6/1/2018 2:25 AM
and dark sea is dead and gone forever anyways so Welp
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
So it sort of happened
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
Oh wait ive seen nick sonic 2, more interestes in nick sonic 1 where he jumps on the ball....
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
makes me wonder if there's any protos for ecco games on sega cd
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
sonic 1 does suck but documenting a prototype of it would be a massive achievement
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
yeah for sure
tape 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
there's gotta one out there somewhere
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
There's an ISO on Hidden Palace full of Sega Channel stuff
tape 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
the pokemon stuff just proved that anything can happen
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:26 AM
why the fuck hasnt anyone dug into the shenmue discs for TCRF
2:27 AM
any shenmue fans here?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:27 AM
cause dreamcast datamining is a bit of a pain
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:27 AM
the proto was reported lost by sega like 14 years ago and drx never got his hands on it either
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:27 AM
We need more Japanese community, i mean what is even the Japanese preservation community?
tape 6/1/2018 2:27 AM
unless someone STOLE it
2:27 AM
no one ever knew!
vervalkon 6/1/2018 2:27 AM
@DarthDubඞ can you elaborate
tape 6/1/2018 2:27 AM
[dan backslide voice]
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:27 AM
somebody probably did steal it
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:27 AM
they dont really care about retro games over there from what I can tell
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:27 AM
They hate anyone who isn't the Japanese preservation community
vervalkon 6/1/2018 2:28 AM
Is there something notably different in DC games
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:28 AM
There's a kirby proto i saw online
tape 6/1/2018 2:28 AM
speaking of which
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:28 AM
Just a different title screen, called twinkiepopopo
2:28 AM
In the hands of a japanese soul
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:28 AM
They really don't like letting anything leave Japan
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:28 AM
it's entirely possible that sega themselves destroyed the proto by overwriting it with something else
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:28 AM
proprietary sega file formats
2:28 AM
idk
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:28 AM
I got the impression dreamcast was easy to datamine because of how broken the system is but im just talking out my ass
tape 6/1/2018 2:28 AM
didn't the kirby and the amazing mirror proto have graphics for a clock enemy or am i misremembering a different jul post
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:29 AM
i didn't say it's impossible
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:29 AM
So they keep everything pretty well hoarded, unfortunately
2:29 AM
And that's just final release games
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:29 AM
shenmue is probably a treasure trove of unused stuff but the fanbase is too small nobodies taken a look
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:29 AM
i'm sure interest in shenmue datamining will increase when the hd collection comes out
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:29 AM
Roms just get overwitten because the carts are so expensive, thats why demos are the best bet, you can bet your ass those n64 ones were overwritten so good luck
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:30 AM
yeah i know how that is
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:30 AM
Dev carts using EEPROM or Flash, definitely overwritten
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:30 AM
certain dragon ball z games have fucktons of unused content that hasn't and can't really be organized or documented by TCRF because of how massive it is
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:30 AM
same for naruto clash of ninja games
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:31 AM
im glad TCRF is getting more attention these days
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:31 AM
like one game alone has hundreds of unused voice clips
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:31 AM
i was surprised to join this server and see 250 members
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:31 AM
Someone on retonauts had this sad story about a huge collector whose proto collection burned down
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:31 AM
like 600+
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:31 AM
i invited my friend today
2:31 AM
just cause of pokemon
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:31 AM
@MS|EXCEL: Let me guess, a hoarder, too
2:31 AM
So it's all gone for good
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:32 AM
Probably @Neko May
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:32 AM
Ive been a part of TCRF for a while but found the discord because I wanted to get some help with the pokemon roms
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:32 AM
This was a podcast i listened to about 2 years ago and it gave me anxiety
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:32 AM
i remember suggesting a discord server a while back and was happy when i found this
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:32 AM
Preservation is not complete until everyone has a copy.
2:32 AM
One dump is not preservation
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:32 AM
I really just want that Sim City NES rom NOW!
tape 6/1/2018 2:32 AM
ya i am made of dur butter und you are worth 2k monies
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:33 AM
inb4 no-intro updates
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:33 AM
i think when it comes to the sonic 1 proto there's a couple extremely likely possibilities, considering the circumstances
tape 6/1/2018 2:33 AM
when will the bio force ape make proto hoarders eat communism
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:34 AM
64DD anything is always exciting too bad those bluediscs never have anything on them
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:34 AM
1. Sega actually did lose the proto at some point and has no way to recover it or 2. They overwrote it years ago and just forgot when they went looking for it to include in sonic mega collection
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:34 AM
I want a 64DD disk just to have one
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:34 AM
same
2:34 AM
i want a 64dd
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:34 AM
I have a mario artist disc
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:35 AM
They remind me of the Goldeneye key (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:35 AM
you can put them on any model n64
2:35 AM
it has the slot for it
2:35 AM
(well not ique)
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:35 AM
wasnt the ique hacked recently
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:35 AM
yep
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:35 AM
i want one now
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:35 AM
ocarina of time romhacks work on it too
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:35 AM
Mario artist was the parent of Miis and Wario Ware, it's great
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:36 AM
yeah luigiblood was showing me stuff from it
2:36 AM
that wario ware like humor
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:36 AM
i wonder if all these 64dd bluediscs that dont end up having anything on them just got magnetically wiped by accident lmao
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:36 AM
No like actual mini games exaxtly like warioware
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:36 AM
thatd be so unfortunate
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:36 AM
i know
2:37 AM
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:37 AM
:)
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:37 AM
magnets are bad guys
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:37 AM
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:37 AM
honestly it's always possible
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:37 AM
now i'm feeling anxious, thanks robfozz
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:37 AM
lol
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:38 AM
Maybe all the bluediscs have some internal wipe feature, or they are really faulty, or..... hear me out on this
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:38 AM
honestly every blue disc video on youtube is always like
2:38 AM
whats on it!?!?
2:38 AM
NOTHING LOL
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:38 AM
i only know about the mario 64 on one
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:38 AM
They'll never find anything good on a blue disk
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:38 AM
Nintendo's HQ had huge magnets at the doors upon exit so no one could rob the game externally lol
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:38 AM
where it's just the shindou version but on a n64 disk
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:39 AM
mario 64 DD was on a standard disk which was really weird
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:39 AM
the ique chinese version is based off the shindou version
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:39 AM
Where are blue disks appearing from anyway? So odd
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:39 AM
we discussed this earlier, about how mario 64 DD is just a worse version of regular mario 64
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:39 AM
I want the Goldeneye key from the game.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:39 AM
its a cool novelty
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:39 AM
arent' there long load times like the famicom disk system
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:40 AM
@MS|EXCEL: Maybe they were just blanks produced for storage
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:40 AM
it has to load whenever you grab a hat powerup
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:40 AM
Some games used the 64DD as a giant Controller Pak
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:40 AM
i wouldn't mind that
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:41 AM
people are genuinely hoping that one day they'll find earthbound 64 or the legendary early zelda build with the triforce that most likely never existed beyond a mockup promotional video
2:41 AM
it's sad
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:41 AM
Anyone wanna join me on an oceans 11 nintendo hq proto raid?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:41 AM
let's try to raid NoA first
2:41 AM
then japan later
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:41 AM
Okie dokie
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:41 AM
No
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:41 AM
earthbound 64 just got a whole lot more likely now that pokemon is dumped
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:41 AM
NoJ has the good stuff
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:41 AM
they were at the same tradeshow
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:41 AM
or we could try europe
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:42 AM
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:42 AM
somebody will risk their lives to retrieve the earthbound 64 proto
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:42 AM
Hitting NoA first will just increase security at NoJ
2:42 AM
NoE has literally nothing
2:42 AM
Waste of time
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:42 AM
europe only had debug builds
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:42 AM
brownie brown is supposed to have a near complete build of EB64 that they used as reference to make Mother 3
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:42 AM
We need someone who gives a shit about this shit at nintendo to dump roms secretly, or else have some dying wish to play these
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:42 AM
go find them they probably dont have any security
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:43 AM
i'm pretty sure there's a copy in the nintendo vault as well
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:43 AM
Right, who can we blackmail at brownie brown?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:43 AM
NoA has a vault, so why wouldn't NoJ?
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:43 AM
No, you need to go into NoJ on a suicide mission with backpacks full of dumping equipment and long-range data radios
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:43 AM
what does brownie brown even do anymore
2:43 AM
you could probably walk in and grab it lmao
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:43 AM
who is brownie brown
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:43 AM
nothing, last time i checked
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:44 AM
i remember hearing some random dude on youtube saying yeah i got the earthbound 64 proto
2:44 AM
and never came back
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:44 AM
Nintendo wouldnt chuck a finished N64 game like Mother 3, they easily spent over a million developing it
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:44 AM
they killed him
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:44 AM
there are several random dudes on youtube who apparently have it lmao
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:44 AM
Of course, I'm not advocating international crime here
2:44 AM
lol
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:44 AM
my uncle has EB64 I swear
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:44 AM
yeah i'm sure the dude was full of poop
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:45 AM
apparently the biggest reason Mother 3 on N64 didnt happen was because they were horrible at 3D modeling
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:45 AM
no it's cause of the n64dd failing
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:45 AM
well, we can all see that clearly
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:45 AM
I do remember some uglyass screenshots
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:45 AM
luigiblood says it wasn't a DD game
Meloetta 6/1/2018 2:45 AM
you mean squandog?
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:45 AM
it was just a regular cartridge
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:45 AM
well it was planned to be one
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:46 AM
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2:46 AM
look at this shit lmao
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:46 AM
just like how both zeldas on n64 were gonna be on n64dd
TopHat 6/1/2018 2:46 AM
Wait, what game is the Sea Monster from?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:46 AM
we wouldve gotten some cool shit if nintendo wasnt stupid with the DD
2:46 AM
Mother 3 64
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:46 AM
Nah Mother 3 was nearly finished, if not completely, but cartridges would have been too expensive, n64dd failed too, no return on investment
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:46 AM
well carts were expensive
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:46 AM
nobody was going to buy the DD anyway
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:46 AM
if they released it when they were supposed to
Meloetta 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
and not through some mail in service
2:47 AM
it wouldve probably done well
TopHat 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
Wait, that's MOTHER 3? Never seen that screenshot before
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
i think my brother would've bought a 64dd if it came west
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
I have a lot of "rare" mother 3 screenshots
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
I'm surprised it failed; Japanese gamers usually buy everything and anything
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
(i was too young and had no money)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
just look at how successful the e reader was in japan
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
Hell, the fucking e-Reader was a massive hit
TopHat 6/1/2018 2:47 AM
Can ya share me them perhaps @Deleted User ? Would be interestig to look at.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
yeah cause e-reader = cards
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
all the DD games got canceled because nintendo kept delaying it and changing the hardware internally
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
nintendo = cards
TopHat 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
I wish we got the e-Reader here in Europe, but CANCELATION grumblegrumble
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
An rpg on the n64 or dd is a terrible idea anyway, nintendos hardware for 64 era REALLY SUCKED! Most 3d models looked bad, mother 3 is no surprise considering how wacky the mother series is in general
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
then the dd came out and failed because you had to order it through an obscure service+no games
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
@TopHat: You didn't miss anything
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
delet dis
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
I still have mine
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
it was nintendo copying sega which was a bad thing
TopHat 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
@Neko May eReader levels tho
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:48 AM
It was terrible.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:49 AM
the addon gimmick
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:49 AM
anything he missed is readily available elsewhere
2:49 AM
except in animal crossing
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:49 AM
the DD couldve saved the N64 if anything
2:49 AM
cheaper format plus more storage
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:49 AM
the n64 sold better than the gamecube
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:49 AM
The DD failed IN JAPAN
2:49 AM
There was NO CHANCE anywhere else
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:49 AM
not for the reasons you think
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:49 AM
No way the dd could save n64, console expansions have never worked outside of japan
TopHat 6/1/2018 2:50 AM
Failure in Japan does not equal failure everywhere else
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:50 AM
i'm surprised they even released the disk drive in america
TopHat 6/1/2018 2:50 AM
Look at the Xboxes
2:50 AM
They were sold better in the West
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:50 AM
Because they were made in the west
2:50 AM
That's why they failed in Japan
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:50 AM
nintendo was really going all in with the disk drive and they screwed up every possible thing
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:51 AM
Lol the n64 cartridge price was a joke, the dd disks would still be hella expensive compared to CD, so dumb
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:51 AM
read what I said above, it only failed because it didnt come out when it was supposed to and then nintendo just said fuck it and decided to just put out what they had through some mail away sub
TopHat 6/1/2018 2:51 AM
@Hugette Hikari Well they only got a dev kit. Is that just the only reason tho? Japan loved western culture like Elvis back in the day, and KFC
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:51 AM
it's cause they were trying to do the snes addon but with their own proprietary hardware
2:51 AM
it's just
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:51 AM
DD was supposed to come out within the same year as the actual 64
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:51 AM
no
2:51 AM
yeah
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:51 AM
if it did, it wouldve done alright
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:51 AM
Probably
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:51 AM
SyQuest EZDisk, but for N64 (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:52 AM
if it used cds it would've been cheaper
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:52 AM
devs canceled all the DD games because of all the delays
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:52 AM
dk64 on the disk drive
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:52 AM
imagine if it used actual cds
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:52 AM
It would have been slower and weaker than the carts
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:52 AM
Still the textures, resolution, sound, storage and consumer game price issue
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:52 AM
why was nintendo using floppies again
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:53 AM
the writable format couldve allowed for some cool game shit
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:53 AM
N64 was just lucky it had a few hit 1st party titles
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:53 AM
or whatever you wanna call em
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:53 AM
Famicom Disk System
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:53 AM
like Zelda 64 was supposed to record everything you did to the world (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:53 AM
like why were they not using actual disks
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:53 AM
Sony thing
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:53 AM
it's cause nintendo didn't want to fall to sony's demands
2:54 AM
aka give them money
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:54 AM
Because carts were faster and FMV sucks
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:54 AM
they stabbed sony in the back and paid for it
2:54 AM
well done
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:54 AM
real talk
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:54 AM
At least nintendo didn't have to deal with load times and had 4 controller ports..... but nah still kinda crappy
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:54 AM
what the fuck is doshin the giant 2
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:54 AM
Sony tried to royally screw Nintendo
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:54 AM
^
2:55 AM
they wanted a majority of profits for every cd sold
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:55 AM
I can read some japanese and have a basic understanding
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:55 AM
when they did the snes addon
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:55 AM
They demanded access to all Nintendo IP and 50% of everything
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:55 AM
I do not fucking know what doshin 2 is
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 2:55 AM
Sony are brutal
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:55 AM
2:55 AM
well, that's japan for you
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:55 AM
yeah i don't like sony as a company
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:55 AM
Sony are a bunch of rotten bastards
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:55 AM
they're anal about the most trivial things
2:56 AM
well the american branch is anyways
2:56 AM
playstation classics
2:56 AM
you can't translate it
2:56 AM
or else it isn't a classic anymore
2:56 AM
nintendo? it's virtual console
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:56 AM
sony doesn't even have that many good first party or exclusive games anymore anyway
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:56 AM
No, Sony Japan are fucking pricks too
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:56 AM
so they just fail in all aspects
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:57 AM
i remember monster world iv getting on virtual console no problem in english when it was japan only before
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:57 AM
same thing happened for sin and punishment
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:57 AM
and dont get me started on sony of america being anti-2d in the 90s
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:57 AM
Everyone was
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:57 AM
there was a limit on amount of 2d games released
Ren - レン 6/1/2018 2:57 AM
saw doshin 2 and just wanted to say it's a game about pissing and that's the general gist of it
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:57 AM
So they get a pass there
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
PS1 and N64 gen is probably my least favorite gen in gaming
2:58 AM
very few things aged well
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
The N64 was great
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
PS1 especially (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
what about sega saturn
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
Goldeneye
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
nintendo would've let somebody make a 2d game if they wanted to
2:58 AM
sony literally refused to let it happen ever
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
are you like me and are feeling nostalgic for the saturn
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
even 2d animation wasn't allowed
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
Whats a Sega Saturn
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:58 AM
If you speak ill of Goldeneye you do not deserve to speak
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:59 AM
goldeneye is alright
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:59 AM
Sega Saturn has nothing but panzer dragoon
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:59 AM
Unless it's the Wii renake
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:59 AM
i preferred perfect dark
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:59 AM
Shit on that all you want
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 2:59 AM
like they scrapped those cartoon cutscenes from crash bandicoot specifically because it was 2d animation instead of 3d fmv
Neko May 6/1/2018 2:59 AM
Perfect Dark was a wannabe
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 2:59 AM
tbh i wasn't a big fan of shooters on n64
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:59 AM
perfect dark owns goldeneye tbh
2:59 AM
neither are great
2:59 AM
unless its the XBLA version of PD
3:00 AM
thats cash
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
conker's bad fur day had better multiplayer than either of those 2
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
DK64 multiplayer anyone
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
BFD was a piece of shit
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
here
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
i guess it's just rare getting steadily better with releases
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
i played BFD for the first time a couple years ago
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
then microsoft happened
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
it aged better than what I've heard said about it, besides certain segments
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
Edgy nonsense for the purpose of edgy nonsense
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:00 AM
like all that bullshit in the war chapter
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:01 AM
at least microsoft was cool with them making games on nintendo handhelds after the buyout
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:01 AM
Honestly the only N64 Rare game I dont like is banjo tooie
3:01 AM
its not bad
3:01 AM
but its not very good either
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:01 AM
the only N64 rare game i don't like is banjo kazooie
3:01 AM
it's too bland for me
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:01 AM
the xbox live arcade version makes it better
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:02 AM
Ive only played the XBLA versions
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:02 AM
collecting notes stay in your inventory
3:02 AM
n64 version, if you die you lose them all
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:02 AM
plus some design choices in the n64 version specifically infuriate me
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:02 AM
Wow, crack a window, there's too many stinky hot takes in here
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:02 AM
yeah that sounds really dumb
3:02 AM
i have many a hot take
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:02 AM
i am gonna shower before i head to bed
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:02 AM
ive been kicked out of groups for my hot takes
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:02 AM
shh
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:03 AM
I've never been able to complete banjo kazooie because i get tired of the game by mad monster mansion every single time
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:04 AM
Oh, hey, it's officially Pride Month across the continental US now. ️‍
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DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:04 AM
i remember having a hard time collecting stuff while flying
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:04 AM
yeah flying in banjo sucks
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:04 AM
aiming while flying in banjo tooie
3:04 AM
blech
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:04 AM
Diddy Kong Racing. There's your worst RARE game ever.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:04 AM
why
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:04 AM
Hottest take all day: BotW is one of the worst games of all time
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:05 AM
says all the high ratings
3:05 AM
hah
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:05 AM
everything gets 10s now
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:05 AM
do you even CONKER'S POCKET TALES neko ed?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:05 AM
that one's a bit charming
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:05 AM
do you even GRUNTYS REVENGE
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:05 AM
also rare made much worse games in the ZX spectrum and NES days than anything they made in the n64 era
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:05 AM
i actually didn't mind that one
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:05 AM
Horrendous difficulty to the point of being literally impossible
3:05 AM
No, sorry, superfuck DKR
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:05 AM
yeah let's not go to nes and before days
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:06 AM
One of the worst games ever
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:06 AM
nah
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:06 AM
You're one of the worst games ever
3:06 AM
you're bad
3:06 AM
at dkr
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:06 AM
Toss it in the pile with ET and Superman 64
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:06 AM
shhh don't expose me
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:06 AM
okay that's too harsh
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:06 AM
garfield kart anyone
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:06 AM
I agree that DKR gets way more praise than it deserves
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:06 AM
on the topic of bad games
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:07 AM
its kinda generic and bland
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:07 AM
also crash team racing is better than DKR anyway
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:07 AM
but it aint bad or anything
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:07 AM
you guys wanna talk about a bad game i mentioned a while back
3:07 AM
keepsake for pc
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:07 AM
Fuck the entire Crash Bandicoot franchise
3:07 AM
more like Trash Bandicoot
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:07 AM
throws robfozz out
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:07 AM
same with spyro
3:08 AM
all these nostalgia babies
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
i like sonic 06 and i think it's a redeemable game, but only solely when it comes to its gameplay
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
jizzing over remakes
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
everything else is a disaster
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
can we take a moment and talk about how spyro 1 has the worst final boss battle in history
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
these games were forgotten and ignored for 16 years for a reason
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
Exactly
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
spyro 1 has terrible bosses in general
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
my unpopular opinion
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
everything else was fun though
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:08 AM
final fantasy 7 was AWFUL
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
6 > 7
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
I couldn't get into it (edited)
3:09 AM
not gud (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
a house shoots missiles at psyken out of this server
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
actually
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
All Spyro and Crash have really given us are shitty platformers and mediocre furry porn.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
6 > 10 > 7
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
no comment
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
Mediocre furry porn is better than no furry porn
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
also fuck off with that
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:09 AM
2 is my guilty pleasure
3:09 AM
ff 2 i mean
3:10 AM
the real 2
3:10 AM
not 4
Tsugato 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
God... it's pride month. just full on oof tbh
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
@MysticSageJosh: True, though
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
anyways, Final Fantasy 7 is just
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
lol
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
i just like how the leveling up works in that game
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
FF7 is an FMV wankfest
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
it's by stats, not by general level
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
Night Trap, but it's an RPG (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
ff7 doesn't deserve a remake
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:10 AM
you punch something your unarmed goes up
3:10 AM
etc
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
i wouldn't say 6 should get one either
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
i think 2 deserves a remake
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
The Only Thing FF7 did right was tifa... oh jeez...tifa is just... RIGHT
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
Aerith was cuter
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
or 6 as a close 2nd
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
2 already has a remake
3:11 AM
on the gba
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
but Aerith is ded
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
no i mean like full 3d
3:11 AM
like how they did the ds ones
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
like ff3 on the ds?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:11 AM
yeah
3:11 AM
i mean psp got hdish remake sprites
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
6 was the last good FF
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
9 was pretty good wat
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
Though those Miquote are pretty good.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
i'd say 10 was the last good one
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
Points to 14 for them
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
another thing, I have NEVER played chrono trigger
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
nibba what
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
I haven't emulated it
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
not great but good
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
or found a cartridge copy of it
3:12 AM
just never played it
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:12 AM
Ayla. :3
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:13 AM
chrono trigger is one of those games you need to experience at least once
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:13 AM
marle sucks and is garbage
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:13 AM
chrono cross too cause of how weird it is
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:13 AM
ayla all the way
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:13 AM
Stumble through it until you get pissed off and give up
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:13 AM
isn't chrono cross like.. HELL to video upscalers?
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:13 AM
That's Chrono Trigger
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:13 AM
chrono cross is hell to your senses, patience, and brain
3:14 AM
don't bother with it
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:14 AM
yep you're all getting banned for hottakes lmao
3:14 AM
including me
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:14 AM
I dont like Chrono Trigger
3:14 AM
besides the music, thats pretty great
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:14 AM
Okay so i googled "Ayla chrono trigger"
3:15 AM
...i uh..
3:15 AM
i like this character
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:15 AM
chrono trigger is a better final fantasy game than 7 is
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:15 AM
she's like blonde launch cause same artist
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:15 AM
the lack of story in chrono trigger ruins it for me
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Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:15 AM
what
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:15 AM
it's snes era rpg
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:15 AM
if your RPG doesnt have a good story what is the point
3:16 AM
im not sitting through the worlds most monotonous gameplay for nothing
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
so, what is the issue, a lack of story, or a not good story
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
CT is also extremely confusing
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
both lol
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
robfozz being impatient with rpgs
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
Even with a guide I struggled (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
that's all it is
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
some of my most favorite games are RPGS
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
same
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
For some reason i haven't completed metroid zero mission
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
theres a lot of pretty shitty and over rated ones is all
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
I'm like
3:17 AM
2 minutes away
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
I hate metroid
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
I got lost on what to do in CT once you were given freedom (edited)
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
from beating it (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:17 AM
i'm out
3:17 AM
you killed it
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
that was the final straw
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
I hate Fire Emblem too
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
random trivia, i haven't beaten a single metroid game
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
So lol
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
now you've really insulted me
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
the only 2 bad nintendo franchises
1
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
no it's cause i suck
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
the castlevania games are much better than metroid
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
Your bloodline is weak
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:18 AM
I haven't beaten SMB
3:19 AM
I'm so shit at platformers
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:19 AM
and fire emblem is just gross
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:19 AM
gross how
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:19 AM
Games i haven't completed (this is just franchise wise btw):Metroid, Mario, Final Fantasy, Super Smash Bros, Fire Emblem, Sonic The Hedgehog
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:19 AM
he's probably talking about the recent ones
3:19 AM
the weeby ones
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:19 AM
generic anime trash wrapped in a bad gameplay bow
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:19 AM
then it doesn't count for anything
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:19 AM
look up tearring saga
3:19 AM
the original creator of fire emblem makes those
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:19 AM
I made it to Metropolis Zone Ace 3
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:19 AM
if you want a good Fire Emblem game play FF Tactics on PS1 lol
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:20 AM
I haven't beaten mega man either
3:20 AM
like
3:20 AM
any mega man game
3:20 AM
...i think
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:20 AM
and here i thought we could be friends
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:20 AM
shining force fam
3:20 AM
it's all you need
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:20 AM
Xenoblade is also a shit franchise now, which is really sad because the original chronicles was amazing
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:20 AM
finally
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:20 AM
okay, i gotta go
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:21 AM
I have never played a persona game
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:21 AM
the more i stay here the angrier i get
3:21 AM
it's 3:21 am
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:21 AM
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:21 AM
2 is basically like EA where it's not a complete game til the next year
3:21 AM
(or insert company here)
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:21 AM
2 is the stupidest tropiest anime weeb bullshit ive ever seen
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:21 AM
if you think XC2 is an unfinished game you've obviously never played FF15
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:21 AM
yeah it's cause the creator doesn't know what you're doing
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:21 AM
@Deleted User: Okay, you're getting excessive now.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
he's*
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
and besides that aspect its just completely downgraded from the original
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
Cool it down.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
he wants his next game to be basically like 2 but m rated
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
the only downgrade I'd agree on is the combat being locked to three skills
3:22 AM
instead of 8
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
the world sucks too
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
not enough side quests
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
the enemies are a disorganized mess
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
too many merc missions
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:22 AM
the story is horrid
3:23 AM
rancid
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:23 AM
the story only gets "good" towards the end
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:23 AM
every cutscene makes me cringe
3:23 AM
youre confusing good with "not as bad as it was"
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:23 AM
fozz
3:23 AM
shut up
Rim 6/1/2018 3:23 AM
Am I dreaming? Is Nintendo themselves actually running ads on this site?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:23 AM
go to off-topic before someone goes crazy on you rob
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:23 AM
please
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:24 AM
Meet me in the McDonalds Parking Lot for an ass-kicking
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:24 AM
like none of this is bothering me personally
3:24 AM
but i'm sure it's bothering others
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:24 AM
it's definitely bothering me personally
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:24 AM
@Deleted User: Cool it.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:24 AM
never talk shit on anime games
3:24 AM
Rim 6/1/2018 3:25 AM
dragon ballz fighters is bad!
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:25 AM
Keep your dislike for them civil
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:25 AM
gotta hand it to nintendo though for having a character say you little shit in a cutscene
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:25 AM
Or keep it to yourself
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:25 AM
they can say shit but they can't show blood
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:25 AM
ikr
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:25 AM
it's confusing to me
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:25 AM
it's xenosaga ep 3 all over again
3:26 AM
can't wait for mortal kombat sweat
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:26 AM
when i first saw that scene i was like "what, did they censor this cause they don't wanna show a teen getting stabbed?"
3:26 AM
then i found out it's always been like that and i was just confused
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:26 AM
at least they didn't cut the stabbing part out like bamco did with tales of berseria
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:27 AM
i liked the part in xenoblade 2 where he grabs her titty to teleport
3:27 AM
and hes all like "huh!"
3:27 AM
very funny
3:27 AM
haha
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:27 AM
tiddyport
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:27 AM
and then the part where shes in his bed
3:28 AM
and hes all like "huh!"
3:28 AM
very funny haha
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:28 AM
the zeke battles were funny
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:28 AM
or the part where theyre at the hot springs
3:28 AM
and shes naked and theyre all like
3:28 AM
"huh!"
3:28 AM
very funny haha
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:28 AM
zeke is hilarious
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:29 AM
anime!
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:29 AM
well freaking mythra slaps rex into the camera before the battle
3:29 AM
breaking the camera
3:29 AM
and the battle starts
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:29 AM
i just like the first one where they just completely ignore him
3:29 AM
i swear his battle transition thing where the screen cracks is supposed to be a final fantasy reference
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:29 AM
i know this is tcrf but
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:29 AM
but nobody seems to agree
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:29 AM
shouldn't we have a spoilers channel
3:30 AM
then again that's redudant
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:30 AM
If the game is over a decade old you've had plenty of time to play it.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:30 AM
i stand with that philosophy
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:30 AM
no i'm talking about recent stuff
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:31 AM
all i play is decade old shit new games are rancid
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 3:31 AM
recent stuff is definitely more questionable when it comes to spoilers
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:31 AM
i'm still enjoying psp games
3:31 AM
what the heck happened
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:31 AM
only games im looking forward to this year is kingdom hearts 3 and shenmue HD
3:31 AM
and shenmue hd isnt a new game
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:31 AM
i'm getting the touhou remake on switch
3:32 AM
and probably pokemon let's go cause i need some filler
Neko May 6/1/2018 3:32 AM
I'm getting tired
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:32 AM
ive been up since 2am playing this proto
3:32 AM
it is now 2am
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:32 AM
this proto was the reason i got twitch setup with obs
3:32 AM
lol
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:33 AM
I just wanna know how people are able to start a new game. Id also like to know how to dig into the r om but no rom editor works :c
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 3:33 AM
i don't know if i should sleeeeppp ehhhh
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:33 AM
yeah i don't get it either
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:33 AM
PGP_NEW_GAME_MODE.sgb
1 MB
3:33 AM
@Meloetta
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:33 AM
i just did debug or whatever
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:34 AM
thank you
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:34 AM
at least everything's slowed down thankfully
3:34 AM
man today was a trip
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:34 AM
youre gonna need to edit hex codes during gameplay to restore health because it is impossible to get through without healing
3:34 AM
edit address CA12 to 02
3:35 AM
for 500HP
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:35 AM
i think fixing pokemon centers should be a priority
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:35 AM
I saw somewhere that female character was in this. Is that true?
3:35 AM
or was that bs
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:35 AM
probably bs
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:35 AM
probably just changed the player sprite
3:35 AM
if you use the sprite viewer, a lot of npcs have similar sprites
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:35 AM
unless someone just found it in the rom
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:35 AM
for walking in every direction
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:36 AM
we all been sitting in here all day other people have probably found stuff
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:36 AM
Actually I think I found the female protag in the debug menu
3:36 AM
hold on
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:36 AM
i just hope someone puts in the similarities to some 4th gen areas
3:36 AM
it's really neat
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:37 AM
4th gen is so under rated
3:37 AM
probably my favorite
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:37 AM
i'd probably appreciate 4th gen more if it had 5th gen's battle engine
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:37 AM
5th gen and above are trash
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:37 AM
nibba what
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:37 AM
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:37 AM
okay that's it
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:38 AM
thats a gym leader I think
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:38 AM
you enjoy your trashy 4th gen game engine that runs slower than 3rd gen
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:38 AM
it has walking animation and 2 sprite sheets
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:38 AM
Im talking about everything besides the battles
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:38 AM
you didn't specify
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:38 AM
i dont give a fuck about battles theyre boring
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:38 AM
then why play pokemon?
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:38 AM
after those its a bunch of place holders
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:39 AM
because everything else is fun
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:39 AM
for things like skate board and biking
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:39 AM
catching shit is cool
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:39 AM
you might enjoy pokemon let's go then
3:39 AM
since it focuses more on catching
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:39 AM
Everything about that game looks tight as hell except that lmao
3:40 AM
now theres no skill or strategy
3:40 AM
you just chuck the ball
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:40 AM
well there might be stuff that's there that we don't know yet
3:40 AM
like actual wild pokemon battles
3:40 AM
they were probably trying to appeal to the pokemon go players in the trailer
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:40 AM
I still play Pokemon Go NGL
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:41 AM
wtf is this
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:41 AM
woah
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:41 AM
super sentai/sniper joe
3:41 AM
mega man NEIN
Bunkai 6/1/2018 3:41 AM
Looks more like an alien than an actual biker
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:42 AM
or maybe it's gundam related
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:42 AM
i thought it was squirtle
3:42 AM
I had to squint that screenshot is so small
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:42 AM
yeah that's 1x screenshot
3:43 AM
origa are you using bgb
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:43 AM
how is anyone not using bgb
3:43 AM
like seriously get good
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:43 AM
idk someone who was using vba earlier
3:43 AM
a 13 year old emulator
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:44 AM
people still use old emulators because nobody advertises the new ones
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:44 AM
basically
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:44 AM
theyre fucking hidden
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:44 AM
i used vba for the longest time
3:44 AM
then mgba became a thing
3:44 AM
and i fell in love
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:44 AM
dude I didnt even know there was anything better than Snes9x for forever
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:44 AM
Ok silver is a hacker
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:44 AM
i used zsnes for a long time
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:45 AM
having honoguma's final evo
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:45 AM
someone out there is still using nesticle
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:45 AM
i just recently started using snes9x
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:45 AM
Higan is the new good snes emulator
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:45 AM
so origa? are you using bgb to take screenshots
3:46 AM
it's lit
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:46 AM
i just printscreen and crop
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 3:46 AM
i wonder when the bmp saving meme will end
Meloetta 6/1/2018 3:47 AM
Does any tile editor work with this yet
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:48 AM
i just realized some dude asked me for my mother 3 screenshots an hour ago
3:48 AM
oops
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:58 AM
@TopHat
mother_3_screens.zip
5.03 MB
TopHat 6/1/2018 3:59 AM
@Deleted User Thanks mate, really appreciating it! I'm a big MOTHER fan, so I'm glad I can get my hands on these screens.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 3:59 AM
not guaranteeing you havent seen these but I havent seen most of those online anywhere
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:00 AM
thanks rob
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:00 AM
i'll take a look
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:00 AM
i downloaded too
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:00 AM
There are some that I haven't seen, some are known to be though but it's great to have a backup of it
4:01 AM
Quite a few I have not seen before
4:02 AM
Huh, so it seems Duster was back there in the game
4:02 AM
Looking at the Pyramid pic
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:03 AM
it seems like not much changed other than 3D to 2D
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:04 AM
went from an ugly game to a pretty game
4:04 AM
it would've been interesting on gamecube
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:05 AM
wasnt it in development for GameCube for a short time
4:05 AM
dont think theres any screenshots from that point
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:05 AM
I think there's no confirmation on that, right? (edited)
4:06 AM
Like how there's no evidence that they worked on an 'expansion pack' for the 64DD's MOTHER 3.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:06 AM
i would've loved wind waker-esque graphics
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:06 AM
i dont see how they couldve made this game work on a standard size 64 cart
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:07 AM
i'm a sucker for cel shading
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:07 AM
Oh, have you seen those MOTHER 3 WindWaker mockups? :P It was meant for the 64DD. However, now I look at Hinawa, may the hair color be symbolical? Like, Lucas is blonde along with the beta mother, 'indicating' a tighter bond with her because [MOTHER 3 spoilers]?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:07 AM
that mockup was fanmade
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:07 AM
Yeah I know
4:08 AM
but I figured you might've heard of those fan mockups
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:08 AM
yep
4:08 AM
just another guy who wants a japan only game from nintendo
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:08 AM
still waiting for official mother 3 translation lol
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:09 AM
doesn't the guy who did the fan translation work for nintendo now
4:09 AM
or did at one point
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:09 AM
I gave up hope on it, yet LuigiBlood believes there is a finished localization at NOE.
4:09 AM
Nah, was hired as part of a third-party translation team, for Mario & Sonic on the Olympic Rio games.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:10 AM
yeah that's what i'm talking about
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:10 AM
I think he was hired along with a team he represented, could be he was hired specifically but I doubt that.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:10 AM
come on nintendo
4:10 AM
have this guy translate all the japan only games and release in collections
4:10 AM
since switch isn't doing vc
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:11 AM
literally just take Tomatos translation that he offered for free
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:11 AM
they'll probably remove some swearing
4:11 AM
not all of it though
4:11 AM
so they can get a T rating
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:11 AM
they'll probably remove the part where Lucas gets his dick sucked in a hot tub
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:12 AM
I don'think that happened tho lol
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:12 AM
of course not
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:12 AM
Gotta censor Club Titiboo though
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:12 AM
im pretty sure that's what happened
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:12 AM
because or else we'll get FBI, OPEN THE DOOR for even talking about the game lol (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:12 AM
dude earthbound had that risque guy
4:13 AM
saying something about shorts
4:13 AM
i forgot the line
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
You mean 'Hi! These shorts are comfy and easy to wear'?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
no
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
Haha, just messing with ya (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
it's why it's rated T on vc
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
Oh
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
wen u gotta take ur little brother with you to the grocery store
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
Well I doubt that was the case for the T rating
4:13 AM
And LOL
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
it says suggestive content
4:13 AM
and it's pretty suggestive
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:13 AM
Anyhow, I think it was that 'hooker' at the hotel, working for the zombies.
4:14 AM
Or perhaps the Giygas fight with 'it feels good'
4:14 AM
Anyhow, it got 12+ in Europe because of words like 'Crap' in it.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:15 AM
i thought it'd get an E10+ rating
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:15 AM
giygas had a freudian slip because he's half baby half man half poopie xd; you can't think properly when you're a morphing pink half baby half man half poopie xd monster who's wrangling with a 13 year old dude
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:15 AM
i think the T rating was a marketing ploy
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:15 AM
I doubt it
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:16 AM
it wasn't dark enough to warrant a T rating imo
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:16 AM
4:16 AM
what happened
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:17 AM
BTW, what eve warranted EBB a T rating?
4:17 AM
Hell, here it is just 3+ LOL
4:18 AM
The only 'reason' it made EarthBound itself 12+ here is probably the infrequent use of mild language. That's the Content Descriptor for it anyways
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:20 AM
wait I just realized something
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:20 AM
Wha? (edited)
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:22 AM
4:22 AM
nvm
4:22 AM
they seemed more similar in my head
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:29 AM
earthbound beginings has censorship too
4:29 AM
like what even
TopHat 6/1/2018 4:31 AM
Yeah
4:32 AM
Understandable tho
Deleted User 6/1/2018 4:32 AM
im still in disbelief they released that
4:33 AM
every time I turn on my Wii U Im like
4:33 AM
OH YEAH
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 4:34 AM
i hope they make a mother collection for switch
Normmatt 6/1/2018 5:42 AM
just me or does https://tcrf.net/File:PokeGoldDemo-front_218.png more resemble a baby jynx than smoochum
File:PokeGoldDemo-front 218.png
Deleted User 6/1/2018 6:31 AM
Baby jynx
6:32 AM
Which would be reformed into smoochum later
6:32 AM
spoiler: That was actually Jynx's baby photos
6:35 AM
Jynx simply had a fetish for fashion as a toddler until she grew out of it
chlœrawr ♀ 6/1/2018 6:50 AM
o/ everyone
chlœrawr ♀ 6/1/2018 6:58 AM
I'm still in shock about the G/S Spaceworld demo leaking.
6:59 AM
If I ever get around to it, I'll try to play it and see where I end up
Deleted User 6/1/2018 8:09 AM
where's the pokemon demo hype channel (edited)
leilei 6/1/2018 8:17 AM
rip other prototypes (for a while anyway)
8:18 AM
who's gonna notice the next sale now
Δndrew P. 6/1/2018 8:36 AM
People are gonna end up thinking the end of the world’s gonna happen.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 8:38 AM
i mean, pokemon was well distributed as a demo, what other well distributed demos come to mind other than Mother 3 N64?
A Blob 6/1/2018 8:54 AM
Kirby's Air Ride/Bowl 64?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 9:09 AM
Founded MotoGp 3 Alpha build
9:11 AM
There is 2 build
Noel 6/1/2018 9:12 AM
Ura Zelda?
Deleted User 6/1/2018 9:13 AM
9:13 AM
smeea
9:14 AM
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 10:33 AM
Is there any updated webpages you can check out the progress of discoveries within the Spaceworld ROMs?
10:33 AM
like daily updates or whatnot
Hiccup 6/1/2018 10:43 AM
tcrf
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/1/2018 10:44 AM
Twitter dot com
Hiccup 6/1/2018 10:44 AM
and the spreadsheet
10:44 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1B5epMdm1Wcvh33qFABpw-SO76uZt6WNSl0UsD5yq_dI/htmlview?sle=true#
10:44 AM
might be other spreadsheets too
10:45 AM
When I posted "tcrf" I didn't actually notice I was on the tcrf channel. But what I said isn't wrong (edited)
Zunaka 6/1/2018 10:59 AM
Hello
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MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:30 AM
re: mother 3, so much will be cut to meet NoA's "standards"
11:30 AM
it wouldn't even be funny.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:30 AM
why are you guys so insistent that NOA would butcher mother 3
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 11:31 AM
I don't think it would, honestly
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:31 AM
It's up there with Time Twist as far as controversial content goes
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:31 AM
really?
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 11:31 AM
Besides, if the rumors are true, NoE handled the localization
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:31 AM
by NoA's standards, again.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:31 AM
NOA localizes fire emblem
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 11:31 AM
And they're pretty well known for being pretty close to the original
11:31 AM
Comparing Mother 3 to Time Twist is... pretty extreme...
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:31 AM
which has onscreen murder, slavery, and extremely rape-y scenarios (edited)
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 11:31 AM
Like, that's not even close
goat 6/1/2018 11:32 AM
I cannot see the magypsies being handled well.
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:32 AM
there's substance abuse, sexual themes, child murder, suicide, self harm...
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:32 AM
a lot of that is in fire emblem
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 11:32 AM
And Fire Emblem doesn't?
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:32 AM
NoA clearly proved that's too much for them
11:32 AM
Henry's backstory in FE Awakening was cut
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 11:33 AM
Again, NoE is allegedly handling Mother 3
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:33 AM
for being "too dark"
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 11:33 AM
I feel like you're worrying way too much
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:33 AM
the implications of suicide in his solo ending are still there, and they didn't cut blatant suicide in fire emblem fates either
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:33 AM
the problem is that NoE does well when left to their own devices but not when NoA is directly overseeing the project.
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 11:34 AM
The rumors don't say that though
Deleted User 6/1/2018 11:34 AM
what's with all the Mother 3 talk, am i missing something?
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:34 AM
compare Xenoblade 1 to either the Wii U one (done by NoA) or 2 (by NoE, but simultaneous release unlike 1 which wasn't even supposed to release in US)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:34 AM
xenoblade 2 wasn't censored
11:35 AM
or toned down really
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:35 AM
it only has a blackface thing cut, compared to cutting religious plots from a Xeno game
11:35 AM
2 technically is less censored than X, since the censorship only covered the text, not the assets
11:35 AM
that doesn't make it particularly better.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:36 AM
also what's stopping 8-4 from handling mother 3's localization
11:36 AM
everyone is just assuming it'll absolutely for sure be done by treehouse
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:36 AM
8-4 cut puff-puff jokes from dragon quest.
11:37 AM
they don't have the best record either, though not all the blame is on them
11:37 AM
considering they're often contracted.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:37 AM
from what I've seen of it done in dragon quest 9, it's not really much of a loss if you ask me, but i see what you're saying
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:37 AM
and I mean, cut jokes nineties NoA was fine with.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:37 AM
NOA localized dragon quest 9 themselves, didn't they
11:38 AM
since square refused to bring it over
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:38 AM
I think 8-4 handled 6 and 7 iirc
11:38 AM
others were Plus Alfa
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:38 AM
i remember hearing that square was pissed over dragon quest 9 being taken into nintendo's hands and threatened them over dragon quest 10
11:39 AM
that they'd lose the exclusivity deal for future games if they did it again
Noel 6/1/2018 11:39 AM
DQ9 is a fave
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:39 AM
that was like, back before the wii u though, and 10 is an mmo anyway
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:40 AM
pissed off? how so
11:41 AM
they had the final say who got the game's overseas license
11:41 AM
not to mention, they were okay with
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:41 AM
square didn't want to localize dragon quest 9 because of the series not being very popular overseas
11:41 AM
so nintendo of america took over the project themselves
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:41 AM
7 being done by nintendo
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:42 AM
that was years later
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:42 AM
even if that meant they had exclusivity over its script.
11:42 AM
Well, here's what i heard
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:42 AM
7 was a ps2 game originally, remember? or was it ps1
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 11:42 AM
7 was PS1, 8 was PS2
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:42 AM
square did 4 and 5 and ofc chrono and final fantasy and front mission 1 on ds
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:43 AM
yeah nintendo themselves heavily promoted and pushed dragon quest 9
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:43 AM
then the deal breaker was joker 2, chocobo dungeon 1 ds bombing
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:43 AM
like moreso than any other square RPG at the time
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:43 AM
they shelved some projects
11:43 AM
like english hanjaku hero and nanashi no game ds
11:44 AM
and especially 6.
11:44 AM
6 is especially obvious in how it's done by 2 companies
11:44 AM
plus alfa, and 8-4 after nintendo took over.
11:45 AM
after that, it's as if square renounced english versions for nintendo hardware altogether
11:45 AM
until dragon quest 11 switch, surprisingly.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:45 AM
square apparently didn't even believe that dq9 would sell that well
11:45 AM
nintendo had more faith in it than them
Noel 6/1/2018 11:45 AM
I knew nobody else who had DQ9
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:45 AM
same here
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:45 AM
9 was before square calling it quits.
Noel 6/1/2018 11:46 AM
I was lonely
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:46 AM
they partnered with nintendo for the marketing push
11:46 AM
but after that, it was purely laziness.
11:46 AM
games that were multiplatform ofc had no way to be localized ever
11:47 AM
unless nintendo secured exclusivity for the english versions (dragon quest 7, case in point)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:47 AM
i think DQ9 was a major reason for the 3ds having streetpass
Noel 6/1/2018 11:47 AM
yeah
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:47 AM
they said that, yes.
11:48 AM
also 3ds was built in with some shaders and fog modes tailor made around a konami silent hills port, lol
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:48 AM
it's odd that a 3rd party game would affect their future hardware to that extent. too bad tag mode on the ds sucks and you can't use streetpass for DQ9
11:48 AM
I'll never be able to fill up the inn
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:48 AM
just use a save editor.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:49 AM
i can't, i don't own a flashcart or save tool
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:49 AM
i'm more worried about bravely default/second bonus bosses exclusive to that internet friends thing
11:49 AM
since that can't be fudged as easily
11:49 AM
(you can on pc )
11:50 AM
(after all, emulators exist)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:50 AM
sure but I'd rather use the cartridge I've poured hundreds of hours into
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:50 AM
there are ways for the other downloadable ds content (i was directly involved) but more complicated to set up
old acc! inactive 6/1/2018 11:50 AM
the qr code scanner in ACNL was unholy
11:51 AM
you have to wait a week to unlock it
11:51 AM
in real time
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:51 AM
most of the DLC in regular ds games can just easily be hacked in
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:51 AM
speaking of 3ds, there's some content locked behind Nintendo Zones.
11:51 AM
the service is long defunct
Noel 6/1/2018 11:51 AM
my New 3DS XL crashes whenever it tries to access the camera
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:51 AM
anyone here know the title Polaroid Pete?
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:51 AM
and you'd need to be physically present in some locations.
Noel 6/1/2018 11:51 AM
it's done that since launch day
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:52 AM
@MS|EXCEL sure i do, gekibo 2. fine game.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:52 AM
English version surfaced
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:52 AM
Pal version ever leaked?
11:52 AM
wow
11:52 AM
where
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:52 AM
on eBay, a few days ago
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:52 AM
nintendo zones never worked for me anyway
11:52 AM
unless i was getting pokemon from them
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:52 AM
that's a white wale
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:53 AM
the buyer is part of a preservation group, he is planning on releasing it
11:53 AM
want to see?
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:53 AM
that's nice to hear.
11:53 AM
sure
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:53 AM
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:53 AM
one of my favorite games that introduced me to the world of weird jp games.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:54 AM
same
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:54 AM
that's definitely a 2002 looking title screen
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:54 AM
the game is a launch title
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:54 AM
I was outbid but the seller assured me that the buyer will deliver, not sure when
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:54 AM
iirc.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:54 AM
something about it just screams that its from that era
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:55 AM
similarly, ganbare goemon ps2 in english is a thing
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:55 AM
I mainly interested to see if they went as far as editing the graphics, for censorship or maybe just to make to more appealing to the west/europe
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:55 AM
never released somehow
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:55 AM
that's konami right? was the translation far in?
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:55 AM
yes, working designs did it
Glisp 6/1/2018 11:55 AM
Day 2 of pokeprotomania
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:55 AM
probably because every goemon game.released in america didn't do well from what i recall so they just gave up after 64
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:56 AM
they even tried pitching it to PSN
11:56 AM
but sony america denied them.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:56 AM
odd that they actually translated another one though
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 11:56 AM
Switch is a nutty game
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:56 AM
maybe he should just release it emulated on steam with an alternate hle bios.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:57 AM
a japanese game filled with japanese references and jokes, i can see why it wasn't received well even though they're decent games
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:57 AM
the goemon series isn't very marketable
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:57 AM
yeah no kidding
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:57 AM
second game has a western invasion, third game has bismaru
Revenant 6/1/2018 11:57 AM
i'm surprised any of them were localized for the US at all
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:57 AM
things like yokai watch are marketable over here because the appeal is universal
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:58 AM
it was a wacky game, i can see how the n64 games worked but the newer titles are a stretch, the nintendo ds title might have worked too
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 11:58 AM
pokes head into conversation (edited)
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:58 AM
4th game has things that noa would never accept too
Glisp 6/1/2018 11:58 AM
Monster RPG's are all the rage really
11:58 AM
I love them
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:58 AM
goemon is like absolutely japanese and there's no way around that
Glisp 6/1/2018 11:58 AM
Pokemon is just the tip of the iceberg for me
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:58 AM
didn't keep the n64 games from coming over, but they were tamer in content
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:59 AM
what is REALLY insane is that ADV dubbed and released all of the Ganbare Goemon anime, which is a really bad anime, no wonder they went bankrupt, licencing every anime
Glisp 6/1/2018 11:59 AM
Goemon... wasn't that the game localized as Mystical Ninja on the SNES?
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:59 AM
aren't they the same people who dubbed the fire emblem anime
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:59 AM
the ADV dubbed episodes covered the plot from the unreleased games.
11:59 AM
and that too
11:59 AM
Mars.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:59 AM
woah the DS title was the final title released for Goemon, that was 13 years ago, insane
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 11:59 AM
even though fire emblem had literally no presence in america, despite "based on the hit game!" being on the cover of the english VHS
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 11:59 AM
dubbed with a horrible voice actor for that green haired archer brat.
Revenant 6/1/2018 11:59 AM
@Glisp yes
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 11:59 AM
oh yeah, Konami, forgot
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:00 PM
Though so
Revenant 6/1/2018 12:00 PM
and on N64 also
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:00 PM
Heh
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:00 PM
I wonder if nintendo ever planned to localize mystery of the emblem at some point
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:00 PM
actually really surprised anything but the SNES title got released outside of japan
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:00 PM
Fire Emblem 4. Incest.
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:00 PM
I remember playing the SNES title and it wasn't bad
12:01 PM
Though I also remember being "meh" while playing it
Revenant 6/1/2018 12:01 PM
there were actually 4 of them on the SNES
12:01 PM
i forget which one is the one that got localized
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:01 PM
i couldn't see thracia or genealogy passing through, but mystery of the emblem is more "casual" than those two and doesn't have the same mature themes
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:01 PM
first goemon only got translated
12:01 PM
(first on snes, because there were some before it
12:01 PM
the kanbei cat is actually a cameo from there)
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:01 PM
I didn't think it was a bad game, but it just didn't appeal to me for some reason
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:01 PM
(Goemon 2 snes has even more cameos)
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:01 PM
hardly ever touched it tbh
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:02 PM
most of the humor that goemon is based around makes no sense to most people outside of japan
12:02 PM
it doesn't translate very well at all
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:02 PM
the way legend of mystical ninja was translated and censored didn't help
12:02 PM
the plot made zilch sense at all
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:02 PM
The lack of appeal for western players may have been the reason for its lack of success
12:02 PM
if I'm meh about playing a game, something is wrong
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:03 PM
they couldn't even say there was a vengeful ghost woman in the graveyard
12:03 PM
clearly.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:03 PM
they localized pocky and rocky and its sequel though, but those have less issues than goemon i guess
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:04 PM
the manji is a prominent pattern in 3.
Revenant 6/1/2018 12:04 PM
the pocky & rocky games don't have as much dialogue
12:04 PM
and yeah goemon 3 even has a huge manji/swastika right there on the title screen
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 12:04 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Resident-Evil-Silent-Hill-Timesplitters-Preview-Review-Debug-Dev-Discs-/263704936314?
Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Timesplitters Preview / Review / Debug...
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MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:05 PM
they usually cut manjis in rereleases but they didn't even bother with the virtual console versions
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 12:05 PM
think those discs have anything of interest?
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:05 PM
not just the title screen. stage tiles. everywhere.
12:05 PM
even the little icons for which weapon is active or not has a tiny manji on it
12:06 PM
it's as if they did it on purpose
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:06 PM
konami spiting people even before the 2010s
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:06 PM
konami europe bothered translating 1 to german in 1994
Revenant 6/1/2018 12:07 PM
idk if they did it on purpose, more like "there's no way this is getting localized anyway so why the hell not"
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:07 PM
true
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:07 PM
as part of their drive to bring some exclusive games to pal (twinbee especially)
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:07 PM
Oh cool
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:07 PM
maybe they hoped the others could be europe only.
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:07 PM
any idea what that Resident Evil preview dates to?
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:07 PM
in fact, they managed to bring an extra europe only goemon, but on gameboy.
Revenant 6/1/2018 12:08 PM
idk, the goemon games wouldn't really be any easier to localize for europe
12:08 PM
seems like a questionable decision
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:08 PM
Sounds like it's pretty late in production by the name
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:08 PM
2 is anti-american in particular.
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:08 PM
The auction ended.... awwww
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:08 PM
one game that fits that description made the cut (parodius)
12:08 PM
in europe.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:09 PM
goemon reminds me of how the first season of the pokemon anime was so hard to.localize because of how rooted in japanese culture that it was
Netscape Navigator 6/1/2018 12:09 PM
jelly donuts
Revenant 6/1/2018 12:09 PM
eat your hamburgers, pikachu
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:09 PM
it has more personality that way.
Netscape Navigator 6/1/2018 12:09 PM
there's some funny stuff in the latest season where Professor Oak's cousin constantly talks in pokemon name puns that have matching animation gags
12:10 PM
i don't know how they get around this in the english script
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:10 PM
it does, people like the first season of the pokemon anime for more reasons than just nostalgia
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:10 PM
imagine an asterix game done without europe-specific references.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:10 PM
the writing and feel of the show is completely different
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:10 PM
that just limits creativity.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:11 PM
phoenix wright has just become a complete self parody with its localization
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:11 PM
1 wasn't so bad, and 6 at times slips up and keep the original setting intact
12:12 PM
but i agree.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:12 PM
that's starting to really screw them over now that the japanese influence is becoming increasingly more obvious
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:12 PM
however its writing as a whole declined.
12:12 PM
the subseries by shu takemi set in meiji era japan
12:12 PM
is better written
12:13 PM
and i'm glad the fan translators didn't listen to those who wanted it be given the old treatment
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:13 PM
boop
12:14 PM
hey @EdTheNerd nice to see someone else loves the dead-inside pikachube
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:14 PM
(when you think about it, the reason why they have those english names is because keeping them as kanji doesn't convey their original meaning
EdTheNerd 6/1/2018 12:14 PM
Aww yee
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:14 PM
mine is screaming
EdTheNerd 6/1/2018 12:14 PM
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:14 PM
so there was a reason. whereas for dai gyakuten they want change for the sake of change and that's not okay)
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:14 PM
I wanted to add the mountain cowboy's hat to mine
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:15 PM
I hope the new owner takes care of those prototypes in that auction above
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:15 PM
dai gyakuten is near impossible to localize anyway, especially while retaining what they've established in the previous english games
12:15 PM
the best we will get are the fan translations
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:16 PM
it's perfectly possible to localize.
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:16 PM
Speaking of prototypes, I keep planning on redumping the Sega CD prototypes I own because the download links have been lost
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:16 PM
oh good
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:16 PM
the issue is that the concept of localization was that badly distorted those drastic rewrites came to be accepted as part of it
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:16 PM
I keep forgetting to do it though
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:16 PM
Sega CD games have been terribly archived
12:16 PM
mp3 files I mean really guys
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:16 PM
That's another reason for why I'm redumping
ShiniiLevii 6/1/2018 12:16 PM
wait what
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:16 PM
is there not a good mixed mode cd archival format
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
My last dump was MP#
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
besides that nrg one
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
*mp3
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
ancient san francisco instead of feudal japan
ShiniiLevii 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
Sega CD prototypes on an .mp3?
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
(pukes)
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
@Sneaker exactly
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
The reason why I haven't redumped them yet is because I'm just lazy lol
12:17 PM
I'm the owner of the unreleased Johnny Mnemonic Sega CD port prototypes
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
[12:16 PM] ConSiGno: is there not a good mixed mode cd archival format
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
but hidden palace usually dumps em to ccd/img/sub or bin/cue (edited)
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:17 PM
bin/cue
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
ah figured
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
or cdrdao's bin/toc
ShiniiLevii 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
Woah
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
bin/cue is good enough.
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
bin/toc supports subchannels
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
I wanted to get a ROM of silpheed to test my cd-mega
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
i don't think any sega cd game makes use of them
12:18 PM
some playstation games do
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
and it was almost impossible
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
the pal ones with that weird antipiracy thing?
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
ccd/sub/img is really only needed for CD+G or discs that have data hidden in the subcode
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
yeah
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:18 PM
i think at least one uses it for an in-game rng
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:19 PM
Those don't need to be redumped because they're just FMV footage but I'll probably do it anyway since some people prefer bin over ISO
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:19 PM
in nerdy voice I need to replace the caps on that one
12:19 PM
I got the cd mega at kaybee toys for like 50 bucks
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:19 PM
I also have one sega saturn prototype
ShiniiLevii 6/1/2018 12:19 PM
?
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:19 PM
@Glisp wav/iso/cue isn’t all that good, but it’s better than mp3/iso/cue
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:19 PM
sadly, it seems to just be the final version of Virtua Fighter remix
ShiniiLevii 6/1/2018 12:20 PM
aw
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:20 PM
i've been dumping a bunch of my old PC CD-ROMs
12:20 PM
ISO for mode 1 data-only discs
12:20 PM
BIN/TOC for any mode 2 and mixed discs
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:20 PM
as for the other prototypes I have
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:20 PM
>tfw no Lego Island VR will ever exist
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:20 PM
(some of these discs are mode 2 for seemingly no reason)
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:20 PM
@ゲームボーイ64 that's not that different. Unless you mean how lossy the audio compression is?
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:20 PM
I have Black Hole Assault, which is about a month from being completed in Japan
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:20 PM
wav is always lossless
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
it's not the wav/mp3 stuff it's the track gaps
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
flac is too.
12:21 PM
yes.
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
Just mostly features some music playing cue differences
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
actually, wav is not always lossless - you can store MP3 within a WAV container
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
mp3 is always lossy
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
this isn't very common though
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
notably in multiplayer
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
Yes, i know flac is lossless
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
never understood that pregap thing too well.
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
CD format has a lot of weird shit
12:21 PM
pregaps, subchannels
12:21 PM
sector modes
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
I have a prototype of Shining Force CD which is in the middle of translation to english
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:21 PM
But not many people can burn flac to CD-Rs, unless you have ffdshow or the LAV filters
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:22 PM
CDs are all over the place
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:22 PM
almost all of these were eliminated in DVD
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:22 PM
I also have a prototype Fatal Fury special which may or may not have been dumped before I dumped mine
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:22 PM
I once made a copy of Sonic CD that played better on my CDX than the real CD
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:22 PM
DVD sectors are 2064 bytes, though most drives don't let you read anything but the 2048-byte user area
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:22 PM
and no it wasn't scratches
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:22 PM
So in total I have six discs
Sneaker 6/1/2018 12:22 PM
it was just how I laid out the tracks
12:22 PM
no telling what else lies in there
12:23 PM
Dreamcast is weirder
12:23 PM
having to dummy things
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:24 PM
DC games with audio usually have two data tracks
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:24 PM
The 3 non-FMV sega CD prototypes and the one Saturn prototype are a priority over the Johnny Mnemonic Sega CD prototypes
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:24 PM
the first track has the header
12:24 PM
then audio tracks
12:24 PM
and then the second data track with actual data
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:24 PM
basically those are the ones i'm familiar with somehow
12:24 PM

- bin/cue
- bin/cue/sbi, bin/toc for subchannels
- bin/cue/audio for saving disc space (audio either wav/flac for lossless, or ogg/mp3/at3..)
- img/cue
- to be avoided: nrg, iso (single file)

Glisp 6/1/2018 12:24 PM
I'm doing a BIN/Cue dump
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
cdrdao uses bin/toc
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
no sense in leaving the music strung out in the directory
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
er oh you mentioned that
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
if you want to save on disc space you do.
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
bin/toc + squashfs with LZMA for direct access
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
Nah
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
though i've been using RAR5 with recovery record for archival
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
people wanted a BIN/CUE dump
12:25 PM
so I'm giving it to them
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
that would be ideal.
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:25 PM
I might do an ISO/WAV dump as well just for posterity
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:26 PM
the bin/cue/wav thing is a bit lossy
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:26 PM
A lot of PCECD-ROM games are dumped to ISO/CUE
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:26 PM
Maybe an ISO MP3 dump as well for those that want a smaller download
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:26 PM
and for compression purposes.
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:26 PM
and i don’t know why they are
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 12:26 PM
i have noticed that RAR5 seems to compress audio tracks quite well
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:26 PM
I saw it in very old PCE-CD sets, or official versions on PSN.
12:27 PM
it's done to save disc space too, so if that's not an issue, bin/cue or bin/toc would be ideal
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:28 PM
The only multi-session CD I own is bejeweled 2 on PC
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:28 PM
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:28 PM
some acquaintance of mine had a rare ps1 bootleg dumped as bin/cue for that reason despite the inconvenience.
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:28 PM
This articuno backsprite still is kinda terrifying
12:28 PM
I think it's the eyes
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:28 PM
Nina pokemon best pokemon
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:29 PM
I do like that the look kinda makes it look like Articuno's made out of ice though (edited)
Borman 6/1/2018 12:29 PM
Ill be streaming a Lunar Eternal Blue prototype in a few hours from mid-translation. Voices still Japanese, text slightly different in spots, etc.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 12:30 PM
Whats goin' on?
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:30 PM
Moltres looks badass
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:30 PM
is that eternal blue prototype out in the wild or a private dump?
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:30 PM
It's in the wild
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:31 PM
playable to completion with no major issues or not?
12:31 PM
because i've found some prototypes to be lowkey best versions
Borman 6/1/2018 12:31 PM
Not in the wild, it belongs to the museum I work for
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:32 PM
like the us region sonic cd proto with jp audio.
12:32 PM
(510 i think)
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:32 PM
This Super Nerd still cracks me up lol
Borman 6/1/2018 12:32 PM
Ive only played the first hour or so, and hacked in the debug menu yesterday
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:32 PM
Look at him
12:32 PM
he just has this look like "I know something you don't"
12:33 PM
And he's proud of it
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:33 PM
at first it seemed like the tv chick from the grudge
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:33 PM
He saw something and he's happy about it
Borman 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
The nudity had already been toned down in the preview build though
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
I like how articuno is called “freezer”
12:34 PM
Damn
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
nudity in pokemon? what
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
No
Borman 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
Lunar
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
oh.
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
Borman is talking about lunar 2
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
lol
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
Original or remake, bman?
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
sega cd.
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:34 PM
Ok
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:35 PM
The closest thing we get to nudity is the hot female swimmer
12:35 PM
sorry wrong image before lol
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:35 PM
in japanese, the birds are called freezer, thunder, and fire
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:35 PM
Ah
12:35 PM
Ok
MLagaffe 6/1/2018 12:35 PM
so inspired.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:35 PM
oh look it's my favorite sprite again
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:35 PM
Seriously, she's so fucking hot
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:35 PM
yeah japanese gen 1 names are incredibly lazy
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:36 PM
She puts Gen II Misty to shame (edited)
ゲームボーイ64 6/1/2018 12:36 PM
ミュウ (edited)
Glisp 6/1/2018 12:37 PM
This is another one of my favorites
12:38 PM
Prototype bugsy
12:38 PM
No gender confusion here as Hugo put it
12:39 PM
Jasmine reminds me of a girl you see in some anime
12:40 PM
One of the trainer classes that didn't make the cut and still hasn't
12:40 PM
Soldier
12:40 PM
I'd imagine he'd use Ramoraid and Octillary to fit his theme
12:41 PM
And maybe use electric pokemon if he were to appear in Vermillion Gym
12:41 PM
(which makes a lot of sense considering Lt. Surge is a former US soldier)
ShiniiLevii 6/1/2018 12:55 PM
is that a vietname soldier
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:55 PM
12:55 PM
ShiniiLevii 6/1/2018 12:56 PM
Lol I picked the seal starter and I thought my rival picked chikorita It turns out it was a meowth
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:57 PM
ShiniiLevii 6/1/2018 12:57 PM
Yeah that
12:58 PM
Anyways My starter committed suicide by attacking itself twice I lost the battle And the game restarted
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 12:58 PM
12:59 PM
in case there was any doubt that these fights are designed to be unwinnable without cheating
TechWizard 6/1/2018 1:00 PM
hey wait a minute
1:00 PM
@Hugette Hikari Aren't you the guy who had the Paper Mario Color Splash spoilers?
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:00 PM
that would be me, yes
TechWizard 6/1/2018 1:00 PM
ayyy wassup man
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:00 PM
not much these days
TechWizard 6/1/2018 1:01 PM
same man
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:01 PM
How on earth did I get color transitions to work?
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:02 PM
Wow, the GB screen does NOT look good stretched to 16:9 (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:04 PM
so, honoguma's battle is just completely broken and glitchy
1:04 PM
kurusu is potentially winnable with RNG manipulation
1:04 PM
chikorita is completely impossible without cheating
1:05 PM
like, slowking's defense is so incredibly high, plus it has psychic, it's not possible to beat this thing
1:06 PM
chikorita doesn't even have any moves like growl, it just has what looks like focus energy, which doesn't matter because it can't survive more than one attack
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:08 PM
You'd think your rival would have the other starter?
1:08 PM
Surely this is just some weird placeholder thing, especially consdering the one he has when you have Honooguma is just null data
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:08 PM
oh that's definitely the case
1:09 PM
we aren't supposed to be able to play this part of the game anyway
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:09 PM
Also someone said there is a bit more if you win the rival battle?
1:09 PM
I've seen people say that, but I haven't actually seen it, so I don't know how true it is
1:09 PM
Like apparently after the battle you meet Oak's granddaugher who exists? And then your in-game mom gives you pokeballs or something, then it's pretty much back to the demo proper
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:10 PM
blue's sister is in kanto
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:10 PM
Right, that's why I'm saying I'm not sure how true it is
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:10 PM
you can see her if you warp over to where kanto is and enter oak's old lab in pallet town, but she obviously doesn't do anything
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:10 PM
Right, right
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:15 PM
( secretly needs help with settin ' up obs but does not have a cow how to do so ) /
rampy 6/1/2018 1:16 PM
Just found some undocumented cheat codes in George of the Jungle for the Wii
1:16 PM
one is "skipit", which skips the current level
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:17 PM
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:17 PM
It's a fair cop
rampy 6/1/2018 1:18 PM
and one that adds a life to the health count
1:19 PM
also checking this was the first time I've looked at a cheat code site in ages
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:19 PM
How do I use the ingame debug again?
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:19 PM
For Pokemon?
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:19 PM
yeah
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:19 PM
Start + B assuming you already activated debug from the title screen
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:20 PM
thankies
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:20 PM
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:20 PM
Is the traffic any better on TCRF today?
1:21 PM
Seems like it is
1:21 PM
Wow, that died down faster than I expected
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:22 PM
yeh .
1:22 PM
may gunna live stream the proto when i get help with the obs .
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:22 PM
I imagine it'll get a boost once the translation hits
Maka 6/1/2018 1:22 PM
Hey, who should I talk to for helping to translate the script?
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:22 PM
Plus, as far as a surface level is concerned, we've basically seen everything it has to offer outside of hacking to find stuff inaccessable through gameplay alone
Maka 6/1/2018 1:22 PM
I'm a Japanese major with a best friend who is a Japanese exchange student and we want to work on it
1:23 PM
On the Google Doc, it says to add translation in comments but I have no permission to add comments anywhere
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:23 PM
Shoot an e-mail to me@sanqui.net
1:23 PM
That's the e-mail in the Google Doc
Maka 6/1/2018 1:24 PM
Alright, will do. Thanks!
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:24 PM
It seems intended for press, but I'm sure if your reason is good (which it is, I'm sure they'd love more help on translation), you'll probably be good to go
Maka 6/1/2018 1:25 PM
It also says to contact GlitterBerri on Discord, but I didn't see her tag anywhere. I did find this through the Cutting Room Floor Wiki
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:25 PM
Are they on the user list?
1:26 PM
You should be able to shoot them a message that way if so
Maka 6/1/2018 1:26 PM
She probably is, which is why I joined this Discord! I'm really excited to help though
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:26 PM
Hm, unless they have a different Discord name, I don't see them on the list
Maka 6/1/2018 1:26 PM
She might be offline
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:26 PM
I looked on the offline list and didn't see her
1:27 PM
Oh wait
1:27 PM
Oh
1:27 PM
This is a long list
1:27 PM
Yeah, okay, I don't think she's on here?
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:27 PM
Have people progressed past the rival barrier?
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:28 PM
i don't think so
1:28 PM
people have beaten the rival fight in the lab by memory editing
1:28 PM
but using walk through walls to walk past him at the gate doesn't lead to anything interesting
1:29 PM
people are still theorizing that there's more to see if we get past him in the non-debug rom though
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:29 PM
good god, the bike is slow lol
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:29 PM
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:29 PM
Glitterberri has posts dating to yesterday at 4 A.M. I'd say they are here.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:29 PM
Y E O W
Maka 6/1/2018 1:30 PM
I sent her a PM, waiting for a response! :)
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:30 PM
Alright. Good luck with the translation.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:30 PM
good luck with the translation, we're all rooting for you!
Maka 6/1/2018 1:30 PM
Thanks! It shouldn't be hard, since the script has no kanji
1:30 PM
but even so, my best friend is a Japanese native
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:31 PM
I wonder if they could even fit Kanji in the script, given that the game was pretty tight on space at first. But I don't know for certain.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:31 PM
Do we have enough information to create a reconstruction of how the game was supposed to be?
Maka 6/1/2018 1:32 PM
They probably couldn't. I don't think an option of kanji was included in Japanese language Pokemon titles until Gen 5
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:32 PM
I think you're right. I seem to remember something like that.
Maka 6/1/2018 1:33 PM
There's still a hiragana + katakana option only, which is a huge help when you know a lot of words but not the kanji for them :)
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:34 PM
Unless there's a bunch of story-related text in the game's code we haven't found yet, it doesn't seem likely @MS|EXCEL
1:34 PM
People would also need to add new areas to the game
1:34 PM
The overworld is clearly unfinished at points, and there are no dungeons whatsoever, at least not playable without hacking
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:34 PM
also a lot of map connections lead nowhere
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:35 PM
Give it 2 years and i'm sure someone will make a convincing version of Pocket Monsters 2
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:35 PM
Oh, no doubt
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:35 PM
I checked, to be safe. Black/White onwards has a Kanji mode, with a Katakana/Hiragana mode. You're right.
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Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:35 PM
like, even the demo version doesn't have proper map connections
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:35 PM
I'm really excited for that, i'm disappointed about the lack of new music
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:35 PM
you walk into a wall and are teleported to the next area
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:35 PM
Also apparently the mountain in the middle of Route 1 isn't meant to be there
Maka 6/1/2018 1:36 PM
Would music found in this be "new" music though??
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:36 PM
Likely added just for the demo
1:36 PM
Depends
1:36 PM
All of the known music is from Gen 1
1:36 PM
If there's anything new at all, it's not active in-game at all
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:36 PM
they just rushed it out there to show the public while the pokecraze of Japan hit full swing, with the anime and everything
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:36 PM
the anime didn't exist yet
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:36 PM
And someone was actually looking through the music data, and apparently it's super compressed or something
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:36 PM
the anime did
1:37 PM
it was a month before the Porygon episode
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:37 PM
Gold and Silver were definitely in development at the time the anime started, due to Ho-oh
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:37 PM
whoever told me the anime came first in america is a liar
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:37 PM
Or at least in the planning stages
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:37 PM
All the new pokemon are using the various unused Missingno cries
1:37 PM
mosly 000 with a few exceptions later on in the pokedex
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:37 PM
Togepi was there too.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:37 PM
the anime didn't exist in America at this stage that is correct
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:38 PM
i was duped
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:38 PM
Togepi was revealed first in this rom before the anime however, togepi would have been in the anime mid 1998ish
Maka 6/1/2018 1:38 PM
bamboozled
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:38 PM
You might be confused, the anime came out before the games in America
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:38 PM
smeckeldorfed
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:38 PM
but it was in Japan first
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:38 PM
so, i think it's obvious what happened here
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:38 PM
the American adaptation isn't relevant to this conversation
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:38 PM
I've said this story before but I'll say it again
1:39 PM
the game, as it was originally intended to be, was 80% complete during spaceworld 1997
Maka 6/1/2018 1:39 PM
But did the demo have all of that is the question
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:40 PM
we don't know why, but they decided to hold the game back for two years to retool it completely, and pokemon yellow took its place as the next pokemon game
Maka 6/1/2018 1:40 PM
Stuff is often removed for demos (especially today with digital download demos) to prevent players for discovering things they shouldnt
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:40 PM
Granted, but outside of debug you can't really find much in the demo area
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:41 PM
hopefully they didn't end up removing much
1:41 PM
if anything at all
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:41 PM
found another location with working grass
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:41 PM
According to Bulbapedia, the JP episode where Togepi hatched aired on June 25, 1998. Lines up with what you said.
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:41 PM
it's an area northeast of what we presume is pallet town (edited)
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:41 PM
Screenshot?
1:41 PM
Oh
1:41 PM
Oh, right
1:41 PM
Skarmory can be found there, too
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:42 PM
Yep, I just caught one
1:42 PM
and a Rhyhorn
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 1:42 PM
Nice!
rampy 6/1/2018 1:42 PM
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:42 PM
at full health too
rampy 6/1/2018 1:42 PM
it crashes Dolphin though
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:43 PM
I don't think Catchrates are properly coded for some pokemon yet
1:43 PM
Either that or I'm just really lucky
1:43 PM
I just caught three pokemon at full health in a row (edited)
1:44 PM
and they're like level 30
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:44 PM
Balance tends to be one of the last things to go in
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:44 PM
Which type of Poké Ball did you use? Just curious.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:45 PM
I think togepi is near last in the pokedex because the game designers and anime crew were working together to create a cute appealing character, do you agree?
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:45 PM
to hell if I know
1:45 PM
I can't read japanese
1:45 PM
It's the one with the quantity of 30
Neko May 6/1/2018 1:45 PM
The NES Earthbound has serious balance problems too
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:45 PM
They have color differences in their sprites, I think.
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:45 PM
snubbull is also at the end of the pokedex with togepi and ho-oh
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:45 PM
togepi is a late addition, made in conjunction with the anime crew
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:46 PM
That is very possible, I think.
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:46 PM
snubbul, donphan, marril were the next 3 reveals after togepi in the anime
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:46 PM
marill isn't, but that's because its design likely wasn't finalized or planned to be used for the anime yet
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:46 PM
speaking of Marill
1:46 PM
its SGB color is pink for some strange reason
MS|EXCEL 6/1/2018 1:46 PM
donphan and snubbul didn't really change, shows how confident they were with the designs
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:47 PM
either the devs made a mistake or they planned it to be pink
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:47 PM
Reminds me of Chimecho's last minute appearance in R/S.
Xkeeper 6/1/2018 1:47 PM
I made a new channel, #pokemon-discussion, to keep discussion of this organized for now. Or at least more organized than it is currently
Glisp 6/1/2018 1:47 PM
Thanks X
1:47 PM
you're the best
Damascio 6/1/2018 1:47 PM
Much appreciated.
Deleted User 6/1/2018 1:48 PM
can some body help meh set up live streams for obs ? - ? . link was not much help thou , as i was tryin ' to set up for the space world demo . (edited)
Netscape Navigator 6/1/2018 1:50 PM
yes, Marill was originally pink
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 1:50 PM
that's what i thought
Netscape Navigator 6/1/2018 1:51 PM
Meloetta 6/1/2018 1:59 PM
Pinkachu
eientei 6/1/2018 2:02 PM
@divingkxt http://32by32.com/
Deleted User 6/1/2018 2:06 PM
guys is pikablue in the game
eientei 6/1/2018 2:09 PM
Please take all Pokemon G/S Spaceworld '97 related talk to #pokemon-discussion
GoodTofuFriday 6/1/2018 3:12 PM
anyone know how the erader was dumped looking to dump another gba ext port peripheral
3:12 PM
have an idea to but want to know how the reader was done
eientei 6/1/2018 3:22 PM
Which peripheral
DeadlyDilemma 6/1/2018 3:23 PM
Does TCRF have a patreon?
Nex 6/1/2018 3:25 PM
yea
Damascio 6/1/2018 3:25 PM
It has a donate page linked on their front page.
DeadlyDilemma 6/1/2018 3:26 PM
aight
Damascio 6/1/2018 3:26 PM
https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor:Donate
GoodTofuFriday 6/1/2018 3:27 PM
3:27 PM
exe 6 link gate
DeadlyDilemma 6/1/2018 3:27 PM
UPGRADE
GoodTofuFriday 6/1/2018 3:27 PM
this version has an SPI interface that I know of. but the two previous versions dont
chlœrawr ♀ 6/1/2018 3:27 PM
How good is the Spaceworld demo, even?
3:27 PM
Does it fare with the final (long shot to ask, but I may as well)? (edited)
GoodTofuFriday 6/1/2018 3:28 PM
its basically a different game
Henke37 6/1/2018 3:36 PM
the site sure is slow today
DeadlyDilemma 6/1/2018 3:38 PM
yeah its not working well
Nex 6/1/2018 3:44 PM
ever since the gs protos leaked
chlœrawr ♀ 6/1/2018 3:46 PM
Traffic spike most likely.
Mitchy 6/1/2018 3:46 PM
Hi, it's me, MitchZer0
old acc! inactive 6/1/2018 3:53 PM
pikapink
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/1/2018 4:13 PM
traffic spike + current conditions of the servers doesnt really help tcrf out
4:13 PM
well (edited)
4:13 PM
it does bring in
4:13 PM
all that sweet
4:14 PM
AD REVENUE
rampy 6/1/2018 4:15 PM
Y'all better have your adblockers off
jimjam707 6/1/2018 4:15 PM
wouldn't have it any other way
rampy 6/1/2018 4:16 PM
I don't think they make any additional ad money with the traffic though
GoodTofuFriday 6/1/2018 4:16 PM
theres ads on tcrf?
rampy 6/1/2018 4:17 PM
Don't Project Wonderful advertisers pay a fixed amount per day to show the ad, and not per view or click? (edited)
Revenant 6/1/2018 4:17 PM
yes
rampy 6/1/2018 4:18 PM
on a side note, today would be a good day to beat the current ad bid with the additional traffic
Glisp 6/1/2018 4:27 PM
https://www.twitch.tv/glitchhunter09
4:28 PM
streaming pokemon proto gameplay for anyone interested
rampy 6/1/2018 4:28 PM
Khangaroo 6/1/2018 4:33 PM
finally nailed the formula for good lossless gifs from bitmap framedumps
chlœrawr ♀ 6/1/2018 4:34 PM
Opening screen dump? ooh
Khangaroo 6/1/2018 4:35 PM
ffmpeg's default gif settings suck
chlœrawr ♀ 6/1/2018 4:35 PM
We need a side-by-side of this and the final's opening
Khangaroo 6/1/2018 4:35 PM
and...
4:35 PM
there's one on the `Prerelease:` page
chlœrawr ♀ 6/1/2018 4:35 PM
Fully animated and all?
Khangaroo 6/1/2018 4:35 PM
however it looks like shit because it was from a show and not an emulator
chlœrawr ♀ 6/1/2018 4:36 PM
GIF will probably need an update at some point
Khangaroo 6/1/2018 4:36 PM
i'm saving it for when the proto: page is more complete
Xkeeper 6/1/2018 4:38 PM
[1:35 PM] Khangaroo: ffmpeg's default gif settings suck
4:38 PM
I just use gifsicle for that sort of thing, but it's not ideal in some cases
Khangaroo 6/1/2018 4:44 PM
`#!/bin/sh palette="/tmp/palette.png" filters="fps=60" ffmpeg -i $1 -vf "$filters,palettegen" -y $palette ffmpeg -framerate 60 -i $1 -i $palette -lavfi "$filters [x]; [x][1:v] paletteuse" -y -framerate 60 $2` shamelessly stolen and modified from http://blog.pkh.me/p/21-high-quality-gif-with-ffmpeg.html
4:45 PM
`./gifenc.sh bgb-1527885650-%05d.bmp output.gif`
4:45 PM
example usage
4:45 PM
on windows you can just use msys2 or something
Khangaroo 6/1/2018 5:22 PM
@Xkeeper is optipng or anything run serverside?
5:23 PM
would be pretty useful
5:23 PM
and has the added bonus of converting bmp to optimized png
5:23 PM
(pretty damn useful for bgb!)
Xkeeper 6/1/2018 5:27 PM
No, it takes files as-is. You can use something like Irfanview to batch convert BMP to PNG, and there'sa plugin for optipng iirc
Glisp 6/1/2018 5:44 PM
motherfucking breaker
Deleted User 6/1/2018 5:44 PM
Side note: BGB will likely never output PNG files. Sad, but beware has his reason :p
eientei 6/1/2018 5:51 PM
I prefer Trimage on Linux. Batch losslessly compresses JPG and PNG
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 6/1/2018 5:55 PM
is anyone gonna fix this trainwreck? https://tcrf.net/Proto:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver/Pok%C3%A9mon
Pok%C3%A9mon
rampy 6/1/2018 5:58 PM
That's a trainwreck how?
Revenant 6/1/2018 5:59 PM
sounds like an excellent question for the entire other channel dedicated to discussing that proto
rampy 6/1/2018 6:00 PM
Oh, the misaligned images closer to the bottom?
6:00 PM
yeah, what revenant said
Xkeeper 6/1/2018 6:03 PM
it's a work in progress and calling things a "trainwreck" isn't helping
6:03 PM
there's a lot going on and things will settle over time
Deleted User 6/1/2018 6:05 PM
yeh
MrCheeze 6/1/2018 6:42 PM
What is the reasoning behind "Leafeo" ?
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:43 PM
Not sure but I think that's a typo
6:44 PM
I won't edit it in the spreadsheet since I'm not sure if that's intentional
6:44 PM
Will ask
MrCheeze 6/1/2018 6:46 PM
LMAO
6:46 PM
That's being spread as the official name now
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:46 PM
Really hope it isn't a typo lol
MrCheeze 6/1/2018 6:46 PM
Man you guys have the ability to fuck with people a ton if you so choose (but don't)
6:47 PM
They'll believe anything
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:47 PM
Alright I've edited it to Leafeon
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 6:48 PM
Quick let's add a "Luigi" pokemon
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:48 PM
Apparently it was Leafeon before so I think someone accidentally changed it earlier
MrCheeze 6/1/2018 6:48 PM
Obvious question, is the Japanese name identical
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:48 PM
Yes
MrCheeze 6/1/2018 6:48 PM
Ok lmao nice paper town
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:48 PM
I think so
Hugette Hikari 6/1/2018 6:48 PM
somebody will use us joking as "proof" that this is all an elaborate hoax
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:48 PM
:0
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 6:49 PM
Stupid people will be stupid
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rufus10 6/1/2018 6:49 PM
I mean the English names were made up by the translation team, but with the original Japanese names in mind.
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 6:49 PM
Can't do anything about that
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:49 PM
So they should be faithful to the originals
6:49 PM
The transliterations of the names are technically more official though (edited)
rampy 6/1/2018 6:50 PM
I mean, the critics can say them in Japanese if they really want to
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:50 PM
Yeah
rampy 6/1/2018 6:51 PM
Also we're spilling into #tcrf again
rufus10 6/1/2018 6:51 PM
Let's move over into the other channel
punk7890 6/1/2018 7:56 PM
probably delete the user as well
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 7:56 PM
Was expecting BS proto info
LarryLemmy 6/1/2018 7:57 PM
Created page with "'''ha ha got you'''" Yeah he sure got us...
rampy 6/1/2018 7:57 PM
Ouch
7:58 PM
how will we recover
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 8:00 PM
Deleted User 6/1/2018 8:04 PM
`<TempTina> Proto:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Spaceworld Demo created by Wisealligator (Created page with "'''ha ha got you'''" (+19)): http://tcrf.net/r.php?w=Proto%3AThe_Legend_of_Zelda%3A_Ocarina_of_Time_Spaceworld_Demo <rabidabid> ... (...) <TempTina> Proto:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Spaceworld Demo DELETED by Devin (Vandalism): http://tcrf.net/r.php?w=Proto%3AThe_Legend_of_Zelda%3A_Ocarina_of_Time_Spaceworld_Demo <ISSOtm> Page lasted exactly 17 minutes and 16 seconds <ISSOtm> Nice try`
Revenant 6/1/2018 8:05 PM
i would have deleted that faster except i was driving
MusashiAA 6/1/2018 8:06 PM
Man
punk7890 6/1/2018 8:06 PM
need for speed
MusashiAA 6/1/2018 8:06 PM
Should've lasted 18:10
MysticSageJosh 6/1/2018 8:06 PM
need for weed 420
Deleted User 6/1/2018 8:15 PM
`<TempTina> Proto:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Master Quest/Actor Debugger edited by Xkeeper (Reverting ancient edits by noted Very Funny Editor wisealligator (m -71)): http://tcrf.net/r.php?a=571479,554102`
Revenant 6/1/2018 8:20 PM
oh god that person was cendamos wasn't it
8:20 PM
i shouldh ave fucking known from the username
GerbilSoft 6/1/2018 8:24 PM
OH HELL NO https://slashdot.org/story/341656
Microsoft Is Talking About Acquiring GitHub, Says Report - Slashdot
The Welcome Rain shares a report from ZDNet: Microsoft officials have been talking to GitHub about possibly acquiring the company, according to a June 1 report in Business Insider. BI claims that the two have discussed the possibility of an acquisition on an on-and-off-again...
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DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 8:24 PM
oh gosh
8:25 PM
gee i sure love monopolies
Deleted User 6/1/2018 8:29 PM
GOD NO
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 8:32 PM
watch every homebrew made for xbone die
??????? 6/1/2018 8:40 PM
Thanks capitalism
punk7890 6/1/2018 8:41 PM
yeah that was likely cendamos
Revenant 6/1/2018 8:42 PM
i have developed an intense distrust of crocodilian zelda enthusiasts over the years
punk7890 6/1/2018 8:42 PM
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 8:43 PM
rip alligator man who likes dog food from link's awakening
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 6/1/2018 9:16 PM
why am i not allowed to post in the pokemon spaceworld chat?
9:16 PM
I'm literally getting bullied for sticking to what the point of the cutting room floor is.
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!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/1/2018 9:17 PM
go talk to the cyber police
Ketsuban 6/1/2018 9:17 PM
1. lol 2. [02:16] Xkeeper: anyway hi tcrf's job is to not do wild speculation (mario looks funny in this glitch so he's obviously Captain Underpants) but to draw connections where they are obvious (this level that looks a lot like 1-3 but missing some things is probably an early 1-3)
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 6/1/2018 9:17 PM
xkeeper literally just agreed with everything i said
Xkeeper 6/1/2018 9:17 PM
you are taking a little time out for a while
rampy 6/1/2018 9:18 PM
Why does the timeout role look so special
9:18 PM
now I want one
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:18 PM
i like the red
Getlucky12341 6/1/2018 9:18 PM
the page for mario sunshine got updated a lot
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:18 PM
ffff
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/1/2018 9:18 PM
tfw u get timed out
Xkeeper 6/1/2018 9:18 PM
because roles can't be a dunce cap emoji
Khangaroo 6/1/2018 9:19 PM
TJ "Henry" Yoshi 2: Electric Boogaloo
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 6/1/2018 9:19 PM
guys this must be a goomba because it looks like a goomba and its called a goomba! (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/1/2018 9:19 PM
i mean they essentially were
9:20 PM
but got retconned
Getlucky12341 6/1/2018 9:20 PM
well listen
9:20 PM
sunshine was my favorite game growing up
9:20 PM
ya'll are doing a great job on it
9:21 PM
Mario sunshine is probably my favorite game to read about on here
Deleted User 6/1/2018 9:21 PM
@LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong is this the hill you wanna die on tonight
9:21 PM
there are probably more important things you could be putting energy into.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/1/2018 9:22 PM
i used to be a BETA explorer like you
9:23 PM
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:25 PM
but it's a goomba
Getlucky12341 6/1/2018 9:26 PM
@sunn are there really more of these?
rampy 6/1/2018 9:26 PM
I wonder how many todos actually get looked into
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:26 PM
i've only done one personally
rampy 6/1/2018 9:27 PM
I'm sitting on one or two to dos that I have researched
9:27 PM
I just need to get the stupid screenshots
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:27 PM
that's always fun
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 6/1/2018 9:27 PM
It's interesting how I can't post in the pokemon spaceworld channel but the people arguing with me can despite the admins agreeing with me.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:28 PM
there are people shitposting in there
9:28 PM
or was
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/1/2018 9:28 PM
someone wake me up in 20XX when the demo is done being documented so i can go to sleep earlier
KillHitlerAgain 6/1/2018 9:30 PM
I have something important to say.
9:30 PM
Someone seriously needs to remove those fan translations from the demo.
9:30 PM
People are taking those as their actual names
9:30 PM
What you need to do is have literal translations of the names, and then a comments section talking about if they are the same as a real name or similar.
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:31 PM
or a talk page
KillHitlerAgain 6/1/2018 9:31 PM
Like, that pokemon that people are saying has the same name as Leafon?
rampy 6/1/2018 9:31 PM
#pokemon-discussion exists
KillHitlerAgain 6/1/2018 9:31 PM
It doesn't
9:31 PM
Sorry.
rampy 6/1/2018 9:31 PM
whoops my bad
KillHitlerAgain 6/1/2018 9:31 PM
I just got here I'll put that there.
9:31 PM
I mean no sorry
9:31 PM
It does
9:31 PM
I meant that the pokemon doesn't have the same name as leafeon
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 6/1/2018 9:31 PM
you will probably be stopped from posting on here if you keep talking like that, fan names and theories are welcomed on the cutting room floor and it is offensive to discriminate against them.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/1/2018 9:32 PM
totes a multiaco
KillHitlerAgain 6/1/2018 9:32 PM
The point is that it's being listed as if it's real.
9:32 PM
It isn't obvious enough.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/1/2018 9:32 PM
9:32 PM
compare the spelling
9:33 PM
as soon as he went all covert he switched to lower case
LordShakeOfTheDonkeyDong 6/1/2018 9:33 PM
literally kicked for pointing out what I got punished for because I care about the rules of tcrf
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:33 PM
dude the role was removed
Deleted User 6/1/2018 9:33 PM
kicked?
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:33 PM
you're not muted from it anymore
Deleted User 6/1/2018 9:33 PM
lmao
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 9:33 PM
nani
rampy 6/1/2018 9:33 PM
Was wondering what was going on
Revenant 6/1/2018 9:34 PM
anyway, you were asked to stop after being explained the difference between reasonable speculation and just making shit up
9:34 PM
(and no, we actually don't welcome the latter)
9:34 PM
everything else you pointed out is alreayd in a huge TODO at the top of the page
Getlucky12341 6/1/2018 9:38 PM
at least unless the rom for the spaceworld build is found
9:39 PM
honestly the cutscene oddity section is my favorite
rampy 6/1/2018 9:40 PM
I'm super jealous of the Sunshine page
9:41 PM
I wish every game could have that immense amount of well-documented info and thorough research
9:41 PM
one of my favorites as well
Getlucky12341 6/1/2018 9:45 PM
it's hard to produce content for tcrf knowing your article will never been as good as the sunshine page
9:49 PM
name some i'm bored and wanna read good articles
blueskyrunner 6/1/2018 9:50 PM
The Lufia 2 article is a good one
9:50 PM
Especially the proto coverage
DarthDubඞ 6/1/2018 11:15 PM
Δndrew P. 6/1/2018 11:33 PM
paper mario is not the type of RPG I like. In every Paper Mario game, i start playing, then immediately lose interest after playing 2 or 3 battles.
LexiMax 6/2/2018 12:05 AM
@Δndrew P. Do a YouTube search for Stryder7x. That's a good way to make Paper Mario entertaining.
Spyro 2025 6/2/2018 12:15 AM
12:17 AM
Delfino Plaza from Delfino Airstrip?
divingkxt 6/2/2018 12:18 AM
@sunn Many people don't recall seeing a model of the Plaza from the Airstrip.
12:19 AM
Spyro the Dragon 2018 is among these people.
Deleted User 6/2/2018 1:38 AM
This Ms. Pac Man still scares me.
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Hâlian (ping in replies) 6/2/2018 1:43 AM
Remove this cursed image
Deleted User 6/2/2018 1:48 AM
help
divingkxt 6/2/2018 1:56 AM
Fractal wrongness in one image.
1:56 AM
She's not even wearing boots.
DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 1:57 AM
i still think she looks like a hooker (hope noone gets offended)
divingkxt 6/2/2018 1:59 AM
Looks like more Ms. Pac-Man, Jessica Rabbit, and a bunch of flappers had a baby.
ゲームボーイ64 6/2/2018 1:59 AM
don't put that image into my head
Neko May 6/2/2018 2:06 AM
lol
2:07 AM
I love how the ghosts on the title screen are terrified/disgusted
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DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 2:07 AM
i would be too
Neko May 6/2/2018 2:08 AM
They've got a primo view of her bare pac-ass
tape 6/2/2018 2:08 AM
it's a portal to another dimension
2:08 AM
where everything looks like that
Neko May 6/2/2018 2:08 AM
lol
2:09 AM
Sexual Harassment Ms. Pac-Man
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susieq 6/2/2018 2:14 AM
i tried switching pac with hinaface once and i cursed myself
2:15 AM
Revenant 6/2/2018 2:21 AM
2:21 AM
welcome to my underground lair
DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 2:21 AM
i see the cart er board
2:22 AM
i wish i had a snes
2:24 AM
i have a super game boy cart too
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/2/2018 2:41 AM
Zechariah B. 6/2/2018 2:43 AM
@Revenant That is pure nightmare fuel
DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 2:43 AM
i remember the seinfeld one
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/2/2018 2:43 AM
2:43 AM
Neko May 6/2/2018 2:44 AM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006: You're fired
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/2/2018 2:44 AM
leilei 6/2/2018 2:46 AM
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Neko May 6/2/2018 2:47 AM
Pac-Man never did make the 3D leap successfully
Deleted User 6/2/2018 2:48 AM
`divingkatae - Yesterday at 23:59 Looks like more Ms. Pac-Man, Jessica Rabbit, and a bunch of flappers had a baby.`
2:48 AM
`>flappers`
2:48 AM
well ain'tcha kinda glad
2:48 AM
and ain'tcha kinda gay
2:48 AM
when you hear ye say t- okay no
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DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 2:48 AM
Revenant 6/2/2018 2:49 AM
wise decision to top off that horrifying 3D pacman by making the main menu look like a ransom letter
Neko May 6/2/2018 2:50 AM
Haha
2:50 AM
Pac-Man's got some kind of disease there, too
Revenant 6/2/2018 2:50 AM
his skin texture an oversaturated close up photo of macaroni and cheese
Neko May 6/2/2018 2:51 AM
XD
leilei 6/2/2018 2:52 AM
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2
2:53 AM
context: quester is namco's arkanoid clone
2:53 AM
it had a pacman level
2:53 AM
but that level also had special blocks that turn red and spread about
2:53 AM
starting from the eyes
2:55 AM
even namco cant help make pacman look more horrifying (edited)
Deleted User 6/2/2018 3:01 AM
3:01 AM
conider this a correction to the ocarina of time page
DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 3:02 AM
reflections
leilei 6/2/2018 3:02 AM
environment maps
Deleted User 6/2/2018 3:04 AM
it want wrrong but the texture is a super mario 64 engine environment map and is used for most reflections in game
3:04 AM
gameplay_keep is always loaded
punk7890 6/2/2018 3:37 AM
Type here to search
Neko May 6/2/2018 3:38 AM
Message #tcrf
Lia 6/2/2018 6:57 AM
Would TCRF want stuff from a lost game? Technically it was released but in such a limited way only like an hour of footage exists between three games
6:58 AM
I have pretty much all the available info from the Tales of Mobile games that exists
6:59 AM
Most of it is info on Breaker including nearly the full soundtrack, a lot of story info, maps, character data, etc but I have a bit of media from the others
7:00 AM
It feels like a grey area since technically it was released but it was so super limited and restricted that very few could access it (edited)
7:00 AM
Unfortunately ROM dumps are effectively impossible
7:01 AM
But I have the info needed to reconstruct full sprite sheets with exact palettes and stuff like that
7:05 AM
Would it be better for Lost Media Wiki?
blueskyrunner 6/2/2018 8:56 AM
Does TCRF have pages on lost games? I'm not actually sure.
8:56 AM
It's certainly got pages on unreleased games, so I'm not sure
8:57 AM
Lost Media would definitely be a good fit for it, though
blueskyrunner 6/2/2018 9:04 AM
Yeah, he knows that
9:04 AM
He just wasn't sure if it was a good fit or not
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/2/2018 9:16 AM
ppst: lost media wiki exists.
MLagaffe 6/2/2018 9:19 AM
anything that helps with mobile game preservation should be done, either here or in a place that allows it if the rules here don't (there's lots of direct rom links on the wiki, so if it was rejected it would be because it's "off-topic")
9:19 AM
especially jp only mobile games.
9:21 AM
i got some translations they did exclusively for mobile ports no longer on sale (megaman x, tales of phantasia 1) too
9:21 AM
and for that to go all to waste is a shame.
9:23 AM
wasn't there a discord that covered some i-mode games done recently for the megaman games?
rampy 6/2/2018 10:27 AM
Found this file in the Bolt Wii game that seems to contain a bunch of info on different explicit rap songs
10:27 AM
https://pastebin.com/VaiB9qC8
trackdb.txt - Pastebin.com
10:28 AM
Haven't played a ton of the game, but I'm guessing this is unused
10:28 AM
Considering the third song down has the n-word in the first few lyrics
rampy 6/2/2018 10:39 AM
This must have some leftovers from a different game
10:39 AM
`context accounts username IvanTheSquid email noone@eidos.com password AAAA clan Avalanche skill 1 character_type gangster end`
goat 6/2/2018 11:27 AM
the best thing about sonic cd is that you can unlock the level select by punching the sega cd
Khangaroo 6/2/2018 11:33 AM
i thought that was 3d blast
Hugette Hikari 6/2/2018 11:34 AM
yeah that's 3d blast
vervalkon 6/2/2018 12:06 PM
Doesn't Mickey Mania do the same?
12:06 PM
iirc
Revenant 6/2/2018 12:07 PM
12:08 PM
mickey mania had this thing
Nex 6/2/2018 12:13 PM
dafuq
Dry Paper Hammer Bro 6/2/2018 12:38 PM
How's the translation going on the Pokemon gen 2 demo?
12:39 PM
How do I join the Cacti Club?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/2/2018 12:40 PM
donate to patreon
Revenant 6/2/2018 12:41 PM
yep cacti club is the patreon donor group
12:41 PM
also check out #pokemon-discussion for pokemon demo info
Dry Paper Hammer Bro 6/2/2018 12:45 PM
What're the perks of the club?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/2/2018 12:50 PM
being able to be part of the club
Dezent 6/2/2018 12:59 PM
Cool colour
Hex 6/2/2018 1:07 PM
Clout
1:07 PM
Cacti Clout
ゲームボーイ64 6/2/2018 1:09 PM
i feel odd for not getting the whole "clout" thing
Δndrew P. 6/2/2018 1:14 PM
And im still wondering what the heck clout means
Hugette Hikari 6/2/2018 1:15 PM
public influence
ゲームボーイ64 6/2/2018 1:15 PM
i think it's some sort of "soundloud rapper" term for having things
Hugette Hikari 6/2/2018 1:15 PM
i think
1:15 PM
clout is an actual term
ゲームボーイ64 6/2/2018 1:15 PM
i thought it was a drain cleaner
Hugette Hikari 6/2/2018 1:16 PM
"influence or power, especially in politics or business"
Hex 6/2/2018 1:28 PM
clout is a real word that existed before soundcloud but it popped up in the popular lexicon a couple months ago
1:30 PM
I said it a few weeks ago and someone was like "clout is a shitty meme why are people saying it now" and I was like ???????
1:30 PM
and thats how i found out it was a "thing" now
divingkxt 6/2/2018 1:31 PM
@Dry Paper Hammer Bro There's a whole hidden channel.
1:31 PM
Which you can access on this Discord with a small donation.
1:32 PM
5$ or more.
Dry Paper Hammer Bro 6/2/2018 1:36 PM
Huh! Neat!
Sunk 6/2/2018 1:54 PM
https://tcrf.net/images/d/d3/MickeyManiaMDRegion2.png I've read this in mickey mouse's voice
Dry Paper Hammer Bro 6/2/2018 1:55 PM
Good Morning, Cactus Crew!
Devann 6/2/2018 2:00 PM
Hi people
divingkxt 6/2/2018 2:41 PM
Hello.
Nex 6/2/2018 2:42 PM
LexiMax 6/2/2018 2:59 PM
@Sunk I've read this in the GameHut dude's voice
3:00 PM
"In this video, I will tell you how and why I display this message"
Mitchy 6/2/2018 3:46 PM
Me too
3:46 PM
I actually am a half mod on Gamehut's server
AxelFrog 6/2/2018 3:58 PM
Hey guys, so someone discovered these 16x16 tiles of Mirage saloon used in the inbetween cutscene in the switch version with some few differences altho im not entirely sure if i should include it on the TCRF's Page of Sonic Mania (The Tiles that are unused are colored green)
3:59 PM
4:03 PM
Some changes include differing tiles,some different deco, alongside having the rock missing, and most importantly the upwards curve, which is wooden in the old version (edited)
Deleted User 6/2/2018 4:04 PM
nice .
rampy 6/2/2018 4:06 PM
https://tcrf.net/Just_Dance_2015_(Xbox_360)
Just Dance 2015 (Xbox 360)
4:06 PM
This has embedded YouTube videos that no longer exist
4:06 PM
assuming there's a category for this sort of thing?
divingkxt 6/2/2018 4:07 PM
@rampy There's no category yet, though I can easily add one.
4:07 PM
Stuff like this when videos randomly go down is a real concern for the wiki.
4:08 PM
And unfortunately, server space is rather limited right now.
rampy 6/2/2018 4:09 PM
Yeah, I guess that's the problem with YouTube
4:09 PM
How much server space do we take up at the moment?
divingkxt 6/2/2018 4:10 PM
I don't recall an exact number, but we do only have less than 1 GB remaining.
AxelFrog 6/2/2018 4:10 PM
So we're just gonna ignore my question? okay
Deleted User 6/2/2018 4:13 PM
@AxelFrog Urs was ? - ? .
divingkxt 6/2/2018 4:13 PM
@AxelFrog Depends on how different the unused tiles are compared to the used ones.
Dry Paper Hammer Bro 6/2/2018 4:14 PM
as usual, I see?!
AxelFrog 6/2/2018 4:14 PM
So far, i dont see really much of an difference between that and the final tiles. less detailed but really close to the final
Khangaroo 6/2/2018 4:14 PM
recursive lossless image optimization?
Dry Paper Hammer Bro 6/2/2018 4:14 PM
No, that's not original.
Khangaroo 6/2/2018 4:15 PM
i doubt a lot of images on tcrf are optimized
4:15 PM
sure it might be in the guidelines but
4:15 PM
still doubt it
divingkxt 6/2/2018 4:15 PM
@AxelFrog Eh, just upload the tiles that are different and make a comparison to the final anyway.
AxelFrog 6/2/2018 4:16 PM
Alright, i will
Δndrew P. 6/2/2018 4:22 PM
Yowza, I have something that needs to be shared about Wipeout Pulse (PS2), but i'll be right back because I'd rather post a video rather than multiple images. (edited)
Δndrew P. 6/2/2018 5:01 PM
Let's just say, in an archive that had no file extension (and i easily opened this with 7zip) I found development software for Wipeout Pulse. There's a hella amount to document (since it has development data(?) for both PS2 and PSP versions). I'm gonna upload a video of just me browsing through the files and folders in the archive (and i swear its a lot of stuff, around 4GB of data after extracting) (edited)
Δndrew P. 6/2/2018 5:15 PM
i looked through (some, if not most) directories in that archive... https://youtu.be/XBbHAT3w0O4
SQUAD OSU
PDZ2 Archive extraction from WipEout Pulse
JacobLenstar 6/2/2018 5:27 PM
http://romshepherd.com/index.php/topic,4156.msg104984.html#msg104984 another gamecube aging test disc was found (edited)
missing gamecube redump
missing gamecube redump
5:27 PM
looked inside and didn't find much special
5:28 PM
a lot we've already seen on the other disc
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/2/2018 5:33 PM
http://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2780
5:33 PM
i assume its this?
JacobLenstar 6/2/2018 5:40 PM
oh
FMecha 6/2/2018 8:28 PM
https://twitter.com/sfc_moogle/status/1002871717965062144
ChronoMoogle (@sfc_moogle)
Nintendo planned sort of a Satellaview 2.0 with disc drive and combined broadcast & internet connectivity for the N64. Pictures of the prototype now appeared on Assemblergames, along with many other details: https://t.co/W3AVcUaqQK
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8:29 PM
I suspect this might be 64DD related
divingkxt 6/2/2018 8:30 PM
Oh no doubt about it.
Hugette Hikari 6/2/2018 8:30 PM
inb4 ura zelda
divingkxt 6/2/2018 8:30 PM
Heck it kind of looks like the 64DD.
Hugette Hikari 6/2/2018 8:31 PM
an BS ocarina of time game like ancient stone tablets would've been awesome
Deleted User 6/2/2018 8:35 PM
I'm still hoping for an official remake/re-release of ancient stone tablets
8:35 PM
so people can play it officially
Hugette Hikari 6/2/2018 8:35 PM
oh, official, i was about to say "they already did that"
Deleted User 6/2/2018 8:36 PM
yeah, making it playable through mods/hacks has already been done lol
Neko May 6/2/2018 9:16 PM
I thought the 64DD had a modem
9:16 PM
What was that RANDnet thing?
DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 9:27 PM
https://mega.nz/#F!RAUHzZbC!yOwjA9Zm5-cLJjrc-8g_KQ idk if anyone has these, but they're spyro demos
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9:27 PM
if it's against the rules please delete this
Khangaroo 6/2/2018 9:30 PM
technically a prototype i guess
divingkxt 6/2/2018 9:36 PM
Nah, not really.
9:36 PM
They're prototypes and only parts of the game at that.
Deleted User 6/2/2018 9:46 PM
How likely am I to find stuff if I just randomly start poking around a game in my steam library?
DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 9:47 PM
depends on the game
9:47 PM
some indies have music sitting out in the open
Deleted User 6/2/2018 9:47 PM
my extremely limited experience has been finding unused textures and developer notes
9:48 PM
which may or may not be interesting to you
9:49 PM
So, most games have at least some unused stuff hanging around in their release build?
9:50 PM
I am not qualified to give a definite answer to that
9:51 PM
I would guess yes but mostly boring stuff (edited)
9:51 PM
as someone told me once: be bold
leilei 6/2/2018 9:52 PM
https://twitter.com/vectorpoem/status/1003091025919799297
JP LeBreton (@vectorpoem)
Nice article on reverse engineering process using Yoda Stories as an example: https://t.co/HjYHboY4NT Also apparently Mark Hamill's car from Corvette Summer is in the game as an Easter Egg, which is a deep cut indeed:
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punk7890 6/2/2018 10:07 PM
hi
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rampy 6/2/2018 10:09 PM
Heyo
Δndrew P. 6/2/2018 10:11 PM
heyyy
Neko May 6/2/2018 10:16 PM
Hello!
Khangaroo 6/2/2018 10:16 PM
Hello there!
DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 10:18 PM
henlo
punk7890 6/2/2018 10:19 PM
DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 10:19 PM
anyone get any use out of the spyro demos?
punk7890 6/2/2018 10:21 PM
I added this stuff if anyone wants to fiddle diddle with it: https://tcrf.net/Notes:Persona_3_FES
Notes:Persona 3 FES
10:21 PM
I have too much notes that I forgot about
DarthDubඞ 6/2/2018 10:22 PM
nice
ChrisNonyminus 6/3/2018 12:20 AM
hello
12:21 AM
I'm new here
12:21 AM
joined because of the whole spaceworld thing
12:21 AM
and because I heard that there's a spaceworld demo-related channel on this server
Xkeeper 6/3/2018 12:26 AM
there is! it's even called #pokemon-discussion
DarthDubඞ 6/3/2018 12:30 AM
welcome
ChrisNonyminus 6/3/2018 12:33 AM
yeah I see
Deleted User 6/3/2018 12:38 AM
Is Nintendo fucking stupid?
12:38 AM
The Nintendo 64 is a thing of the past nowadays
12:38 AM
So that is just useless
MysticSageJosh 6/3/2018 12:38 AM
posted here earlier..
Deleted User 6/3/2018 12:39 AM
Well why make something for a freaking system that has been deprecated for over 20 years
divingkxt 6/3/2018 12:39 AM
Because it was made in 1997/1998. (edited)
12:40 AM
Obviously not anything new, but mildly interesting in my eyes.
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 12:40 AM
wait
12:40 AM
did you think this was being made now
divingkxt 6/3/2018 12:40 AM
@Deleted User You do realize this was made while the N64 was Nintendo's flagship system and not some new thingy right?
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 12:40 AM
^
Khangaroo 6/3/2018 12:41 AM
that's like sony releasing a ethernet adapter for the original playstation today
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 12:41 AM
pocketstation 2.0 to replace the vita
EdTheNerd 6/3/2018 12:50 AM
Naw, this is clearly a new product
blueskyrunner 6/3/2018 12:50 AM
The Game Boy Pocketstation Classic Mini
EdTheNerd 6/3/2018 12:51 AM
I'm sure it will release along side the supernintendo hologram generator addon
DarthDubඞ 6/3/2018 12:54 AM
didn't you hear? it's the n64 mini
Deleted User 6/3/2018 1:57 AM
Pokémon Béta
punk7890 6/3/2018 2:06 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1003156021114617856
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in Lotus Challenge (PS2) https://t.co/n7zLwnxH8H This lets you edit all parameters relating to the currently selected car. You can change weight, gears, speed, and much more with this menu.
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2:07 AM
Neko May 6/3/2018 2:39 AM
That's awesome
punk7890 6/3/2018 2:55 AM
Yeah, it's pretty neat.
DarthDubඞ 6/3/2018 2:57 AM
yay more debug stuff
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/3/2018 3:26 AM
3:26 AM
I found debug display in Little Lovers She So Game.
Neko May 6/3/2018 3:28 AM
Dating sim?
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/3/2018 3:28 AM
yes
3:29 AM
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Lovers_SHE_SO_GAME
Little Lovers SHE SO GAME
『Little Lovers SHE SO GAME』（リトルラバーズ シーソーゲーム）は、1999年9月2日に日経映像・NTT出版より発売されたプレイステーション用テーブルトークRPG。『Little Lovers』の関連作品である。
Neko May 6/3/2018 3:29 AM
Disturbing title for a dating sim (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/3/2018 3:29 AM
プレイステーション用テーブルトークRPG
3:29 AM
Tabletop role-playing game
Neko May 6/3/2018 3:29 AM
Interesting
3:30 AM
NTT, isn't that Japan's national telephone company?
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/3/2018 3:33 AM
yes. but NTT was privatization in 1985.
3:34 AM
and They have publishing department NTT出版.
Neko May 6/3/2018 3:40 AM
Ah.
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/3/2018 3:55 AM
3:55 AM
and I found debug menu in Digital Figure Iina. but It is not display on screen, compose on VRAM only. If you try it, Use the code (801DEF58 6176, 801DEF5A 0C00) to appear it.
☎ 6/3/2018 4:14 AM
Was that Socks the Cat Rocks the Hill game ever dumped properly?
MysticSageJosh 6/3/2018 4:15 AM
yeah
4:15 AM
someone like
4:15 AM
bought the rights to it
☎ 6/3/2018 4:15 AM
But the rom isn't online from what I've seen
leilei 6/3/2018 4:16 AM
i assume it's another super nt
☎ 6/3/2018 4:16 AM
Super NT?
leilei 6/3/2018 4:17 AM
that recent snes clone of sorts
4:17 AM
supposedly having super turrican director's cut or something
4:17 AM
never really looked into it
4:17 AM
sounds sketchy to me anyway
☎ 6/3/2018 4:20 AM
Socks the Cat was supposed to be given a physical and digital release but I have seen no news regarding it
4:21 AM
And the kickstarter was made two years ago.
Neko May 6/3/2018 4:22 AM
Kickscammer
Deleted User 6/3/2018 4:22 AM
Or the kickstarter that was destroyed by the sun
☎ 6/3/2018 4:23 AM
Possibly :[
4:23 AM
What a shame.
Deleted User 6/3/2018 4:23 AM
4:23 AM
Fear it.
☎ 6/3/2018 4:23 AM
Oh no, that sun?!
MysticSageJosh 6/3/2018 4:23 AM
runs in fear
Neko May 6/3/2018 4:23 AM
falls asleep
MysticSageJosh 6/3/2018 4:25 AM
BABY SUN OF DEAAAAAATHHHH
f(x)^3 6/3/2018 4:39 AM
Oh boy
4:39 AM
This is from SC3000 XD
4:41 AM
4:41 AM
a string in SIMMISC.DLL
4:42 AM
sadly does nothing
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 4:53 AM
Socks the Cat did get a physical release that is still being sold on second dimension's site and someone dumped a ROM from their cartridge on Emuparadise's forums
4:54 AM
I've even made injects for the 3ds and Wii, someone else did the Wii U inject
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/3/2018 5:10 AM
5:10 AM
I found debug menu in Treasure Gear.
punk7890 6/3/2018 5:10 AM
Athena, the human debug menu.
5:10 AM
nice work
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/3/2018 5:10 AM
Thank you!
punk7890 6/3/2018 5:12 AM
I found some unused menu in a game where you can choose 89 different resolution types. You don't see those everyday.
5:12 AM
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5:13 AM
also found this non working debug menu
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/3/2018 5:13 AM
nice!
punk7890 6/3/2018 5:13 AM
The game isn't even called KillerB. Not sure why it's named that.
5:14 AM
Whatever the case is, it has no subfuctions that I can see, sadly.
Dry Paper Hammer Bro 6/3/2018 6:34 AM
Is the Super Nt's built-in game online?
6:40 AM
Who "owns" TCRF?
Deleted User 6/3/2018 6:44 AM
I do
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Deleted User 6/3/2018 6:56 AM
I know you're asking for who the admin/host is, but really you're just opening yourself up to people going "the community owns TCRF"
Pixel 6/3/2018 7:03 AM
According to page informations the page creator is "MediaWiki default"
Deleted User 6/3/2018 7:08 AM
lol
7:08 AM
the world may never know
leilei 6/3/2018 7:11 AM
mediawiki default, the creator of the internet
7:13 AM
not as prolific as criware the creator behind all the dreamcast games ever made though (edited)
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Deleted User 6/3/2018 7:14 AM
You mean the creator of the internet isn't that "caution, website is under development" banner?
LuigiBlood 6/3/2018 8:38 AM
Super Turrican Director's Cut is just an older version of the game
8:38 AM
...which doesn't have any new stages
8:38 AM
so it's kind of a lie lol
8:39 AM
if anything it's actually less polished
vervalkon 6/3/2018 11:23 AM
Trip World version differences
11:23 AM
11:24 AM
literally just these two bytes
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 12:46 PM
http://gbdev.gg8.se/wiki/articles/The_Cartridge_Header#014A_-_Destination_Code
The Cartridge Header
12:47 PM
changed the destination code to non japanese and the checksum for the header (edited)
Hiccup 6/3/2018 1:54 PM
Whats even the point.
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rampy 6/3/2018 2:01 PM
This is quite an ad race
2:02 PM
someone else beat out the old ad with the Nintendo logo
2:02 PM
Up to $5.10
2:04 PM
they have the ad spot in everywhere but US
divingkxt 6/3/2018 2:04 PM
Also note.
2:04 PM
The game is Dodge Club Pocket,
2:04 PM
yet all the recommendations below that are Pokemon games.
2:05 PM
old acc! inactive 6/3/2018 2:09 PM
so tourney mode got removed completely from smash wii u a while back (edited)
2:09 PM
should this be mentioned on the tcrf page since everything goes unused from that mode
divingkxt 6/3/2018 2:14 PM
Was it removed in an update?
2:14 PM
That's definitely noteworthy, but I'm not sure if tourney was removed after a while or not.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 2:18 PM
2:18 PM
tfw the highest quality screenshot they have
goat 6/3/2018 2:40 PM
so what's the deal with eshop sales
2:40 PM
is it just.. one at a time
Deleted User 6/3/2018 2:45 PM
Hey @Deleted User can you give me the filename of the font used in the nintendo labo? There might be multiple, but I'm looking to find the font that's used when making the creations because I like it
2:45 PM
I'd assume it's on both but I'm talking about the one on the variety kit
outside998 6/3/2018 2:47 PM
Hi guys, just joined.
Deleted User 6/3/2018 2:47 PM
Unless nintendo made their own font...
2:47 PM
Just joined too, I joined this server before but I left it
2:47 PM
I plan on staying this time since I have edited on tcrf
outside998 6/3/2018 2:47 PM
I want to edit myself.
2:48 PM
I stumbled over the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 for N64 site and realized that I could add the second photograph and the corresponding code for it.
divingkxt 6/3/2018 2:53 PM
@outside998 So you want an account?
outside998 6/3/2018 2:53 PM
gladly
2:54 PM
was just about to ask one of you guys
outside998 6/3/2018 3:04 PM
@divingkxt so what do I have to do to get an account?
divingkxt 6/3/2018 3:06 PM
Don't need to do anything.
3:07 PM
If any one of your friends wants an account, please use the account-requests text channel. (edited)
Deleted User 6/3/2018 3:07 PM
so you don't get an account at all?
3:08 PM
only your friends?
divingkxt 6/3/2018 3:13 PM
Outside998 has an account now.
3:14 PM
But yeah, this is why we have an account request channel.
rampy 6/3/2018 3:19 PM
Welcome
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZAL6039Ejk&feature=youtu.be
Lemur's Basement
Pokemon Stadium 2 Promo (Nintendo Magazine 2001)
3:25 PM
I bought this disc on ebay
3:25 PM
I was expecting a lot more than just a single video
3:25 PM
$40 well spent :| (edited)
3:26 PM
there's literally nothing else on the disc
divingkxt 6/3/2018 3:26 PM
@JacobLenstar Probably not a spectular find either, seeing as this is a European promo.
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:27 PM
yeah
3:27 PM
the ebay listing didn't give much info
3:27 PM
other than that it was a "rare cd"
3:27 PM
but curiosity got the best of me
divingkxt 6/3/2018 3:27 PM
This is why you have to be careful with random eBay listings.
3:27 PM
Don't just buy stuff because you're curious about it.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:28 PM
at the very least its preserved
divingkxt 6/3/2018 3:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct3VNIVq-8M
Kerr Henderson
Pokemon Stadium 2 Promo Disk
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:29 PM
boy I wish it were that easy
3:29 PM
yeah
divingkxt 6/3/2018 3:29 PM
Yes, but someone else also found that.
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:29 PM
that's my main motivation for buying this stuff
3:29 PM
well shit
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:29 PM
oops
divingkxt 6/3/2018 3:29 PM
There's at least three other uploads with the same video. (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:30 PM
how long until a revenge of the flying dutchman prototype shows up?
divingkxt 6/3/2018 3:31 PM
2 years.
3:31 PM
At least.
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:31 PM
there was one time I spent $100 on an "umjammer lammy proto"
3:32 PM
it was a blank disk with "um jammer lammy 1/99" written on it in sharpee
3:32 PM
turns out it said 7/99
3:32 PM
and was just a localization prototype with nothing different
3:32 PM
this was a year or two ago
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:32 PM
how are you able to just throw money like that
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:32 PM
I have a lot of disposable cash (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:33 PM
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:33 PM
I don't spend very much
3:33 PM
or very often
Deleted User 6/3/2018 3:33 PM
yo @Deleted User gimme a bit
goat 6/3/2018 3:33 PM
i'm glad you can do that even though i am also jeaous because there have been multiple months in the past two years whrere i've mainly eaten microwaved potatoes
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:33 PM
the cup noodle diet
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:35 PM
i'm always searching high and low on ebay for prototypes of press kits that appeal to me
3:35 PM
the best thing I ever found were the spongebob supersponge discs
3:35 PM
that was like
3:35 PM
the holy grail
Deleted User 6/3/2018 3:35 PM
that was a great find
goat 6/3/2018 3:35 PM
fuck dude now i want ramen
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:36 PM
the most appealing games are usually the licensed ones
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:37 PM
i wonder if a BFBB prototype will ever show up
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:37 PM
for finding prototypes and stuff (edited)
3:37 PM
well of course
3:37 PM
bfbb
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:37 PM
there was a couple unreleased localizations sold a few days back
3:37 PM
for a pretty penny
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:37 PM
I found a PS2 kiosk disc that had a BFBB demo but I didn't find anything different in it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:37 PM
oof
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:37 PM
i dont think many even realized what that stuff was but it still went for crazy prices
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:37 PM
the hop files are dated a few days after the final game's (edited)
Ewzzy 6/3/2018 3:38 PM
what was the Supersponge stuff like?
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:38 PM
well
3:38 PM
there were +100 prototype builds of the game
3:38 PM
but the real meat
3:38 PM
was Sponge Bob Disc 1 and Disc 2
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:38 PM
Every single asset made for the game was on those discs.
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:38 PM
disc 1 had all the source code
Deleted User 6/3/2018 3:38 PM
lol
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:39 PM
Models (for making the prerendered sprites ala Donkey Kong Country), art, music files, etc
Ewzzy 6/3/2018 3:39 PM
good lord that is a treasure trove
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:39 PM
and this basement is a true treasure trove
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:39 PM
my fav was the game ref folder with emulators and roms for games
3:39 PM
for inspiration
tape 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
the real krabby patty secret formula
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
3:40 PM
shout outs to vimms lair
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
disc 2 has assets from the actual show
3:40 PM
full res backgrounds
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
Deleted User 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
what's vimm's lair
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
Deleted User 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
romsite?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
an infamous one
tape 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
holy shit it's REFLECTO'S LAIR
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
they would edit the rom headers to put their own site name
Deleted User 6/3/2018 3:40 PM
gross
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:41 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:41 PM
look at that krusty krab pizza™ (edited)
tape 6/3/2018 3:41 PM
that oughta do it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:41 PM
FIRMLY
3:41 PM
GRASP
3:41 PM
IT
tape 6/3/2018 3:41 PM
[PAINED MOANING]
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:41 PM
there's even some backgrounds that were cut from episodes
3:41 PM
this was in pizza delivery
tape 6/3/2018 3:41 PM
that's one ominous clock
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:42 PM
was that clock reused for squeaky boots?
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:42 PM
i thought the same thing
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:42 PM
man I never truly admired the art in spongebob until recently
Ewzzy 6/3/2018 3:42 PM
That's really cool. Supersponge is already a really interesting artifact from early in the series. The CG enemies being such a huge departure from the show.
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:42 PM
such a gorgeous show
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:42 PM
so it was the carnival the whole time
tape 6/3/2018 3:42 PM
the painted stills from spongebob are both beautiful and also extremely hilarious
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:43 PM
this was in mermaid man and barnacle boy ii but in the actual episode they're made of krabby patties, not grotesque meat
tape 6/3/2018 3:43 PM
god i was just gonna mention that one
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:43 PM
that's one awful looking barnacle boy
tape 6/3/2018 3:43 PM
i saw that still on lost media wiki a while ago and i wanted to throw up
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:43 PM
and there was gonna be a scene where someone robs a jewelry store(?)
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:44 PM
reminds me of the chase scene at the beginning of F.U.N.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:44 PM
That Mermaid Man pic looks like a shot from a post-movie episode lmao
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:44 PM
like specifically the magic shop
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:44 PM
this one's not even finished
tape 6/3/2018 3:44 PM
even SQUIDWARD misses you!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:44 PM
where they try to be grotesque and horrifying as much as possible in every goddamned episode
tape 6/3/2018 3:45 PM
i hear the episodes after the second movie are better
3:45 PM
especially the animation which is ridiculously fluid and expressive
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:45 PM
I've seen a few post-sequel episodes
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:45 PM
not all of them but there's an obvious increase in quality
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:45 PM
rock bottom model sheets
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3:45 PM
oh the latest season of spongebob is great
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:45 PM
"deep sea incidental"
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:45 PM
They're definitely an improvement
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:46 PM
watched a few eps and had a smile the whole time
tape 6/3/2018 3:46 PM
i pbbt can't pbbt understand pbbt your pbbt accent
3:46 PM
pbbt
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:46 PM
Although I feel like a few characters still suffer from flanderization
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:46 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:46 PM
the doodlebob episode was great
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:46 PM
TARNATION ITS THAT NUT STEALING ARM AGAIN
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:46 PM
Wumbo 6/3/2018 3:47 PM
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:47 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:47 PM
the aftermath of reflecto's rampage
3:47 PM
jesus christ that brain one
Wumbo 6/3/2018 3:47 PM
Also cut from Scaredy Pants
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:47 PM
the halloween episode would've been genuinely scary if they used that shot
tape 6/3/2018 3:47 PM
still not as bad as the krabby patty mannequins
3:47 PM
brain shot reminds me of flapjack
3:47 PM
like i can imagine it cutting to that with a goofy scream
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:48 PM
Wumbo 6/3/2018 3:48 PM
I'd guess that if it were used, it would be used right after The Flying Dutchman pulls the sheet off of SpongeBob, accompanied by a screaming sound
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:48 PM
barbed q's
3:48 PM
(it took me years to get that joke)
Wumbo 6/3/2018 3:48 PM
I can't imagine the brain still being used without a screaming sound
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:48 PM
now if only we could have an asset leak from ratchet and clank
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:49 PM
at least we have protos of R&C1
3:49 PM
plus the concept art thats in some of the games
tape 6/3/2018 3:49 PM
mister fister is the key to all of this
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:49 PM
3:50 PM
these filenames
Wumbo 6/3/2018 3:50 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:50 PM
"kid2_dead"
3:51 PM
"old_bitch"
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:51 PM
a lot of funny early character renders
3:51 PM
Wumbo 6/3/2018 3:51 PM
My favorite (edited)
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:51 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:51 PM
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:51 PM
neptune's not even in the final game
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:51 PM
brb making some t-pose memes /s
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:51 PM
Neptune was too good for this game
Ewzzy 6/3/2018 3:52 PM
I swear the M on Mermaidman was pasted on after the render
Wumbo 6/3/2018 3:52 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:52 PM
that's why he's so fat
3:52 PM
he's not wearing his belt
3:52 PM
this reminds me of those "Yeah I do crack" memes
Wumbo 6/3/2018 3:52 PM
He's not wearing his belt right
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:52 PM
the slag wagon
Khangaroo 6/3/2018 3:53 PM
slag_waggon.gif
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:53 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:53 PM
i love how people just name the files whatever because nobody will see them
3:53 PM
like good old "obj_Motherfucker" from crash bandicoot
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:54 PM
this looks cool
3:54 PM
I actually really like the way this looks
3:54 PM
opaque transparency aside
Wumbo 6/3/2018 3:54 PM
Purple ladder
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:54 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:54 PM
look at that texture face
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:55 PM
I dunno if I'll ever find something as good as these discs again (edited)
tape 6/3/2018 3:55 PM
looks like an algae bloom in the water
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:55 PM
inb4 you find sm64 beta
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:55 PM
i'll leave that to someone else
3:55 PM
lol
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:55 PM
beta mario screeching intensifies
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:56 PM
since the source code is all there it is theoretically possible to make an open source PC port of this game
tape 6/3/2018 3:56 PM
zsupersponge
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:56 PM
spongebob squarepants maker
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:56 PM
could you make it into a better game though
tape 6/3/2018 3:56 PM
chocolate supersponge
Khangaroo 6/3/2018 3:56 PM
YAAAAHAAAA (edited)
3:56 PM
we need sm64 beta dumped just to rip his voice
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:56 PM
we already have them
3:56 PM
it's warner bros sounds
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:57 PM
^
Khangaroo 6/3/2018 3:57 PM
oh
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 3:57 PM
Mel Blanc as Mario
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 3:57 PM
those are all placeholders, you can tell because he has like 4 different voices in the footage
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 3:59 PM
his early voice sounds like lemongrab
4:00 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/3/2018 4:00 PM
when he gets burned by fire i can kinda hear it
4:00 PM
not so much for the "YAHAAA" and other noises (edited)
blueskyrunner 6/3/2018 4:03 PM
Wait, what game is this?
4:03 PM
Supersponge?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 4:03 PM
yes
JacobLenstar 6/3/2018 4:03 PM
yes
Henke37 6/3/2018 4:31 PM
so, anyone going to do a bot to automatically apply the new template?
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/3/2018 5:44 PM
?
TopHat 6/3/2018 5:48 PM
Hey, can someone give me an invite link to this Discord? A friend of mine alledegly has a PAL prototype of Extertainment's Mountain Bike / Speed Racer, which only the US version has been dumped of.
5:48 PM
When I try to right click and invite him that way, he doesn't seem to receive an invite.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 5:50 PM
https://discord.gg/SdV3GYq
Invite to join a server
The Cutting Room Floor 🌵
rules
TopHat 6/3/2018 5:50 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 Thanks a ton, mate!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/3/2018 5:50 PM
np fam
5:50 PM
TopHat 6/3/2018 5:51 PM
Friend came up in another Discord asking who's an actual Nintendo collector, then he mentioned something about a prototype. Considering I can't afford it nor dump it, I thought of redirecting it to here, considering the community wants to preserve prototypes after all.
divingkxt 6/3/2018 5:58 PM
Interessant.
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Nex 6/3/2018 5:59 PM
echt so
TopHat 6/3/2018 6:16 PM
Don't ask me, I'm nto the owner. He's just a friend of mine, haha. Ask @Joerne .
6:16 PM
And check #prototypes
Joerne 6/3/2018 6:17 PM
Yes
6:17 PM
And no, I don't have the bike hahah
6:17 PM
I'm not sure if the bike ever existed in Europe
Deleted User 6/3/2018 6:59 PM
@TopHat nice to see you here lol
TopHat 6/3/2018 7:00 PM
lol
punk7890 6/3/2018 7:16 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ https://tcrf.net/User:Punk7890#Happy.21_Happy.21.21_Boarders_in_Hokkaido found this but couldn't easily figure out a way to enable it. Figured you might want to take a look sometime.
User:Punk7890
7:16 PM
I'd be pretty neat if it worked. Contains a full NPC editor
7:17 PM
that function expects something in A0/V0 (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/3/2018 7:34 PM
A0 is… yeah addressing…
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 7:40 PM
Alright, so, I have made an account on TCRF a while ago, but nothing's on it. Should I start making a normal page about a game I want to report, or should I make a user page first? (Don't worry, I'm reading the Guidelines right now)
7:41 PM
Cuz I'm kinda unsure about what I want to do first.
divingkxt 6/3/2018 7:47 PM
Eh, people usually do the page on the game first, then the user page.
7:48 PM
No need to worry about how you do stuff so long as what you do is good.
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 7:52 PM
okay, cool.
Glisp 6/3/2018 7:53 PM
Hey @divingkxt think I'll need to put a NSFW warning when I upload this due to the lyrics? It's the music track that plays in Trespasser build 55's test level when the music button is pressed
7:55 PM
apparently winamp gives the track name
7:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAV0gZ8Idb0 haha found the full track
David Boron
EBN ~ Shoot the MAC-10
7:56 PM
Thanks winamp
7:56 PM
At least I know what the track name is
divingkxt 6/3/2018 8:00 PM
@Glisp Depends on what the lyrics are.
8:00 PM
Oh wow, yes.
susieq 6/3/2018 8:00 PM
somewhat related, i've been sitting on some unused zoo tycoon sprites for a bit because i have no clue how to go about actually presenting them (the game uses the male bigfoot sprites for both genders of bigfoot when there's female versions of every animation in the files, im not sure if its fine to just rip one sprite set or rip each sprite, and also don't know if it'd need an nsfw warning because they have like 12 pixels of boob)
divingkxt 6/3/2018 8:00 PM
Deffo put an NSFW warning on that.
Glisp 6/3/2018 8:01 PM
"Fuckin mow them down a mac-10" repeatedly for the most part (edited)
8:01 PM
and yeah I was thinking as such
8:01 PM
Thanks Diving
divingkxt 6/3/2018 8:01 PM
https://genius.com/Emergency-broadcast-network-shoot-the-mac-10-lyrics
Emergency Broadcast Network (Ft. Grandmaster Melle Mel) – Sho...
[Intro] / We have the MAC 10/11 / I’ll shoot the MAC 10 / We have the AK 47/S / I’ll shoot the MAC 10 / We have a twelve gauge skeet shotgun / I’ll shoot the MAC 10 / You make it
8:02 PM
This must have really hit hard in the 90's.
8:02 PM
"The CD release included three video tracks in addition to the audio as well as a floppy disc that included AV editing software"
8:03 PM
That's something you don't see every day.
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 8:08 PM
If I were to write what the Developer of the game is, and the developer company/studio changed their name, do I write their original or new name?
ゲームボーイ64 6/3/2018 8:10 PM
whatever it was back when it was released, I think.
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 8:10 PM
Alright
8:12 PM
I'm doing this like baby steps, like, each element I'm doing for a page I'm gonna do is right now being written in individual text files, then when I make the real page, that's when I'll copy-paste what I typed onto the page, because I have no idea if this type of wiki system lets you make drafts.
8:16 PM
For now I'll try to upload the title screen and leave a comment saying it'll be in a page soon. Is this image alright?
8:16 PM
I checked and yes it's native res, in PNG, and converted to PNG (from BMP) using GIMP. (edited)
divingkxt 6/3/2018 8:17 PM
Yes, perfectly fine.
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 8:18 PM
This is my first time and like I'm paranoid about getting the things right, you know? That's why I'm keep checking here if it's okay and whatnot. hh
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/3/2018 8:46 PM
@Δndrew P. you might want to ue pnggauntlet
Scorpion Illuminati 6/3/2018 8:46 PM
Am I allowed to create a blank game page?
Revenant 6/3/2018 8:47 PM
no
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/3/2018 8:47 PM
Atleast BOB and one content i think
8:47 PM
microsoft bob
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 8:47 PM
the image is just 78KB however
Scorpion Illuminati 6/3/2018 8:48 PM
Well it would be to encourage people to dig into my game...
8:50 PM
Since I can't hint
divingkxt 6/3/2018 8:51 PM
That's still a huge no-no.
Scorpion Illuminati 6/3/2018 8:53 PM
Ok, well how would I encourage people to find unused content in my game? LEGALLY?
Deleted User 6/3/2018 8:54 PM
what
Scorpion Illuminati 6/3/2018 8:54 PM
Actually scratch that, I'm not sure if I left any
Revenant 6/3/2018 8:54 PM
if it's worth finding then they'll find it on their own eventually
8:54 PM
don't use our site to advertise your game
Scorpion Illuminati 6/3/2018 8:56 PM
Actually I'm not, I want to get rid of unused content since I'm limited to 4MB (edited)
punk7890 6/3/2018 8:59 PM
RANDUM
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:00 PM
no ur dum
Rena 6/3/2018 9:00 PM
So randumb! holds up spork
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 9:04 PM
Now, since there's a hella amount of Windows Batches, do I have to copy the code of all, most, or some of them onto the page? (edited)
9:04 PM
(there's much more than what you see)
9:05 PM
and the codes of some of them are very long
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:08 PM
Hey...
9:08 PM
Has anybody thought of putting that Pokemon Spaceworld thing on 3DS VC? (edited)
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:09 PM
Already did that, but it lacks color
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:09 PM
Oh really?
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:09 PM
Yes
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:09 PM
Why does it lack color?
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:09 PM
No SGB support
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:09 PM
True...only GB, GBC & GBA support
susieq 6/3/2018 9:10 PM
i assume its because its a normal gameboy rom and the VC emulator shows normal gameboy games in black and white (including pokemon r/b/y if i remember correctly)
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:10 PM
Actually no
9:10 PM
The VC shows games in color
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:10 PM
If someone makes a GB/C emulator with SGB support and adds it to NSUI as an injection method that will allow for color
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:10 PM
Like Pokemon Yellow
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:11 PM
Or someone can make a color patch similar to the ones for red and blue
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:11 PM
Well
9:11 PM
We could also try and port it to GBC
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:12 PM
It has no GBC mode so the GBC cannot colorize it
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:12 PM
No i mean like...port the ROM itself to the GBC
9:12 PM
So the ROM file would be .gbc or whatever it is instead of .sgb
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:13 PM
Changing the extension does nothing without an extensive hack
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:13 PM
Well
9:13 PM
I know that
9:13 PM
Thats why we actually port it
susieq 6/3/2018 9:14 PM
so wait, pokemon yellow has color by default in VC?
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:14 PM
Yep
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:14 PM
So does gold and silver
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:14 PM
Pokemon Yellow is actually still sold today
9:14 PM
Just digitally and on VC
susieq 6/3/2018 9:14 PM
is it possible to take the header from that rom and replace the prototype's header with it
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:14 PM
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:15 PM
Couldn't hurt to try
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:15 PM
If it works then this will be a breakthrough
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:15 PM
Wait, has anyone tried extracting the files from the cia and replacing the ROM with the prototype?
Deleted User 6/3/2018 9:15 PM
@New Super Jerkass 𝕏 @susieq Lets move to #pokemon-discussion
9:16 PM
@New Super Jerkass 𝕏 Nope lol
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/3/2018 9:16 PM
I'll give that a go
Halfbit 6/3/2018 9:16 PM
Hello
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punk7890 6/3/2018 9:23 PM
I think all of the games I've looked at that only had one release by a developer have had lots of debug stuff left in.
9:24 PM
at least, one release on a platform
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 9:47 PM
I'm probably gonna have to make a subpage if I have to list a bunch of Windows batch codes
divingkxt 6/3/2018 9:48 PM
Yeah...
9:48 PM
Either that or a zip file.
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 9:51 PM
GAAAH What about development tools that have a GUI? Studio Liverpool just left all their development tools and everything in a single archive, in a game. Like, that’s something huge I have to write about.
9:52 PM
There’s like a few uncompiled source code, and a bunch of batches left everywhere.
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 10:42 PM
And i swear there were some kind of comparison pictures between models from the PSP verson and PS2 version...
Δndrew P. 6/3/2018 10:59 PM
Yeah i can kinda tell the page i’m gonna make is gonna take a while, because there’s so much developer stuff i have to cover, but also paying attention to the guidelines.
goat 6/3/2018 11:28 PM
wooooooo the switch sleep glitch is fied
Deleted User 6/3/2018 11:30 PM
?
11:30 PM
What glitch?
JacobLenstar 6/4/2018 1:33 AM
found a pic of mario party 7 that looks like it has debug stuff at the bottom
punk7890 6/4/2018 4:54 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1003559995131039749
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found an unused video settings menu in Rebel Raiders: Operation Nighthawk (PS2) https://t.co/IenNGdLGiM This lets you choose from 90 different video resolution modes. Yes, 90. I have no idea why you would need to have all of these video modes, ever.
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1
4:54 AM
cuba200611 6/4/2018 5:11 AM
What is this, a mid-90s DOS game?
leilei 6/4/2018 5:31 AM
it's the whole gamut of playstation video modes
leilei 6/4/2018 6:19 AM
almost, almost feel like covering unreal's differences between 219 and 220
6:20 AM
as 220's when they start patching the content with changes
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/4/2018 6:34 AM
@punk7890 I will check Boarders in Hokkaido.
ZeaLitY 6/4/2018 7:44 AM
whoever initially investigated the MMX5 proto and ripped the Rainy Turtloid music, you have my eternal thanks
punk7890 6/4/2018 7:49 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ cool, thanks
GerbilSoft 6/4/2018 9:35 AM
https://slashdot.org/story/341740 (edited)
Microsoft Acquires GitHub For $7.5B - Slashdot
As rumored, Microsoft said Monday that it has acquired code repository website GitHub for a whopping sum of $7.5B in Microsoft stock. Microsoft Corporate Vice President Nat Friedman, founder of Xamarin and an open source veteran, will assume the role of GitHub CEO. GitHub's c...
9:36 AM
"GitHub will retain its developer-first ethos and will operate independently to provide an open platform for all developers in all industries. Developers will continue to be able to use the programming languages, tools and operating systems of their choice for their projects -- and will still be able to deploy their code to any operating system, any cloud and any device."
ゲームボーイ64 6/4/2018 9:37 AM
I read that as $7.58
cuba200611 6/4/2018 10:15 AM
Who the heck would buy a large site for $7.58?
10:15 AM
And yeah, confusing B with 8.
Huks 6/4/2018 10:18 AM
I mean everything on github is literally downloadable for free so the site can't be worth that much can it
Aerocatia 6/4/2018 11:04 AM
"In stock"
11:04 AM
I see they fell for that old trick
Deleted User 6/4/2018 1:54 PM
shi... they can just take down any x-bone homebrew they want maybe
goat 6/4/2018 1:57 PM
pfffft yeah the wealth of xbone homebrew
Deleted User 6/4/2018 2:33 PM
ik Nintendo has a lot of homebrew they would love takin down if they payed Microsoft a bit
2:33 PM
there seems to be profit in that fact
Buster 6/4/2018 2:34 PM
good point
Bunkai 6/4/2018 3:22 PM
Ps and ps vita has a lot of homebrew there too (edited)
Rena 6/4/2018 3:22 PM
Do we all move to Gitlab or is there a proper decentralized solution yet
Deleted User 6/4/2018 3:22 PM
I thought gitlab was decentralized or something
Rena 6/4/2018 3:23 PM
In a way. With git everyone who works on a project has a local copy.
3:24 PM
The trick is being able to keep those copies in sync, and have an issue tracker and such, without relying on a central server.
3:24 PM
You can just run your own git server too but then you have to deal with accounts and it's still a central server.
Deleted User 6/4/2018 3:24 PM
it's a bit beyond my area of expertise, I'll admit
Rena 6/4/2018 3:25 PM
Something could probably be built on Zeronet, which itself is built on torrents AFAIK
3:26 PM
you push by just publishing a new version/patchset signed with your key
3:26 PM
Someone else can push something signed with their key and that would be a fork, and if you were to then merge their changes it would be like a pull request
3:27 PM
I mean that's how pull requests work already
Deleted User 6/4/2018 3:28 PM
I code just for fun but I want to get into more serious projects
3:28 PM
I'm trying to figure out what I should make "my thing" my self
rampy 6/4/2018 3:28 PM
Wow just heard the news
vervalkon 6/4/2018 3:28 PM
found Trip World level data, nothing interesting sadly
rampy 6/4/2018 3:29 PM
I'll stick with GitHub for now mainly because I use the static hosting for a site
Deleted User 6/4/2018 3:29 PM
I don't think microsoft is gonna change github much (edited)
rampy 6/4/2018 3:29 PM
I hope you're right
Deleted User 6/4/2018 3:31 PM
I don't mean that in a good way, I mean it in a "meh" way
Bunkai 6/4/2018 3:34 PM
I think they are going to do the same they did with skype. Ads and little updates.
Rena 6/4/2018 4:32 PM
Well they certainly turned Skype into shit (more than it already was)
Deleted User 6/4/2018 4:38 PM
it has been pointed out microsoft has different management now
4:38 PM
don't know how different, but different
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 5:41 PM
meanwhile in WipEout Pulse's files I found some comparison images of the ship models between the PS2 and PSP versions. (these were originally stored as JPGs) (edited)
5:41 PM
5:42 PM
There's a lot more ships too.
5:47 PM
Do images like these go under the Model Renders, or Ripped Graphics category?
Revenant 6/4/2018 5:48 PM
ripped graphics
5:48 PM
model renders is for user-made views of actual unused model files etc
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 5:49 PM
Ahh okay
5:53 PM
(I'll be uploading a few of these comparison images, i'll leave a comment saying they'll be in a page soon)
Deleted User 6/4/2018 5:54 PM
@Δndrew P. you're good to upload those jpgs as-is, btw
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 5:54 PM
Alright cool.
Deleted User 6/4/2018 5:58 PM
add this tag: `{{AlreadyJPEG}}` in addition to the `{{rippedgraphic|<console>}}` tag
5:58 PM
copy/paste, cause it's case sensitive
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 5:59 PM
Alright lemme edit the image comments to add that
6:03 PM
Okay done
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:04 PM
thanks (edited)
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:05 PM
and since the images are already like 1980x1080, what number would I use to downsize (resize) the image on the page? (edited)
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:06 PM
`|800px]]` should be fine
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:06 PM
Thank you!!
6:10 PM
okay so here's a draft of the first two sections im gonna add. Do these sound alright...?
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:20 PM
looks alright
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:22 PM
I'm considering making a sub-page that's about windows batch files, since there are quite a lot of batches in that same PADZ2 archive. If needed, I can try to upload that PADZ2 file and link it so others can see what's in it. (the whole thing is like 2GB) (edited)
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:24 PM
oof
6:25 PM
what console is this on
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:25 PM
PlayStation 2. This game was only released in Europe.
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:25 PM
2GB of padding on a 4.37GB disc
6:25 PM
wild
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:25 PM
ikr
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:25 PM
the most I've seen is about 800MB of padding in Persona 4
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:25 PM
wow
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:26 PM
It's all Persona 3 data :v
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:28 PM
but the million dollar question in WipEout Pulse is that why did they leave developer tools and source codes in that padding file
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:29 PM
bad choice
DarthDubඞ 6/4/2018 6:29 PM
did someone say padding?
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:29 PM
needed some quick padding
DarthDubඞ 6/4/2018 6:29 PM
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:31 PM
lol
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:31 PM
ayiyai those images really need spacing between and maybe have to be smaller...
6:31 PM
and fixes in the main bob
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:31 PM
you can either add a manual line break between the image embed tags, or add a <br> tag between each
6:32 PM
<br> adds more space than a manual line break
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:35 PM
Kinda like this?
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:36 PM
yeah that should do it
6:36 PM
you can also drop the 800 width size if you like
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:37 PM
Still kinda gives me the same thing (I did lower the px though)
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 6:38 PM
So... I found this today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCNug82c0U
Envy May
Unused Music - Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
6:38 PM
The guy who claimed he found it said it was encrypted or something (Which sounds very convenient, right after saying he doesn't understand the technical aspects about a DS (edited)
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:39 PM
>>Check out Purple here, he makes neat remixes and stuff:
punk7890 6/4/2018 6:39 PM
under constraction!
Deleted User 6/4/2018 6:39 PM
seems legit
6:39 PM
@Δndrew P. save the page and I'll fix it
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 6:39 PM
yeah, thats what i thought too
Δndrew P. 6/4/2018 6:40 PM
Thank you, Ehm
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 6:40 PM
but he had the guts to post a filename as well
old acc! inactive 6/4/2018 6:40 PM
its not in the game
6:40 PM
i checked the SDAT file
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 6:40 PM
that's cool.
6:40 PM
alright, thanks
old acc! inactive 6/4/2018 6:40 PM
also i think thats a song from Paper Jam
6:41 PM
or + Bowser's Minions
6:41 PM
idk
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 6:41 PM
I think it's original, but it does sound similar to the boss theme.
old acc! inactive 6/4/2018 6:41 PM
it sounds like it
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 6:41 PM
from paper jam that is, or the minions boss theme
old acc! inactive 6/4/2018 6:41 PM
also it was uploaded March 31
6:41 PM
which automatically confirms it as fake
Splitwirez 6/4/2018 6:41 PM
timezones amiri- oh (edited)
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 6:42 PM
yeah, it would make sense
6:42 PM
Oh, while I'm here, i dumped the rom of Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again.
6:43 PM
And I ACTUALLY found a few unused sequences.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/4/2018 6:43 PM
u know what else was on april 1st
6:43 PM
6:43 PM
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 6:43 PM
t c h
6:46 PM
I'll just write in in pastebin
blueskyrunner 6/4/2018 6:51 PM
Wow
GerbilSoft 6/4/2018 7:12 PM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/1003729065860165634 (edited)
🌸 X/Revya 🌸 (@xkeepah)
a lot of gb emulators appear to have problems understanding that ".sgb" is a gameboy ROM but gb(c) was always weird in that there were .gb, .gbc, and .sgb ...
7:12 PM
No one cares about super Gameboy :(
DarthDubඞ 6/4/2018 7:13 PM
bgb is supreme
GerbilSoft 6/4/2018 7:13 PM
Where was that one page that showed off the various sgb games
7:14 PM
http://loveconquersallgam.es/post/2350461718/fuck-the-super-game-boy-introduction might've been this
Love Conquers All games
Fuck the Super Game Boy: Introduction
The Super Game Boy is probably the coolest piece of video game hardware in existence. It’s also probably the biggest wasted opportunity in video games. It’s been pretty much entirely forgotten about...
7:14 PM
Yep that's it
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 7:14 PM
Donkey Kong 94 is really cool when played on one.
DarthDubඞ 6/4/2018 7:14 PM
well even nintendo forgot it existed
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 7:17 PM
Alright, here's all the unused tracks, I think. https://pastebin.com/ZY5j6vsh
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again! Unused Music - Pastebin.com
7:18 PM
I don't know where you guys want me to put the ROM of the game, or if you even want it
7:18 PM
but it's not playable because it's a DSiware game, but you can open the files.
7:19 PM
Also, last thing: There are lots of regional differences in this game and it's prequel, mainly surrounding Floor names. (1st floor is Ground Floor, 2nd floor is 1st floor, etc.)
7:25 PM
@old acc! inactive Also, have you listened to the multitude of seemingly interesting tracks in BiS that were all overwritten by the tutorial theme?
old acc! inactive 6/4/2018 7:26 PM
yea
7:26 PM
its all leftovers from the second game
7:26 PM
some voice leftovers are there too
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 7:26 PM
yeah, but i swear there were more, but i'm just probably overhyping it
old acc! inactive 6/4/2018 7:27 PM
well there are the streamed tracks
7:27 PM
but nothing really interesting
7:27 PM
besides the 5 versions of the Star Cure theme
Sam Deluxe 6/4/2018 7:27 PM
oh yeah, i remember that
Deleted User 6/4/2018 7:28 PM
Running a hosting company gets expensive
7:28 PM
I can see why hosting companies make their plans so expensive
7:28 PM
Sort of
7:29 PM
I dont believen expensive plans though lol
f(x)^3 6/4/2018 8:52 PM
Dang, always fear when this happens
8:52 PM
8:54 PM
I guess the good thing is the fact that the function still exists
goat 6/4/2018 9:11 PM
i can now get screenshots off my switch but only 80% of them or so
9:12 PM
and it's interesting seeing different things try to render said screenshots
9:13 PM
Revenant 6/4/2018 9:36 PM
https://twitter.com/itstheshadsy/status/1003809709445599237 https://twitter.com/ItsTheShadsy/status/1003811026113048576 https://twitter.com/ItsTheShadsy/status/1003812347746582529
Phil Salvador (@ItsTheShadsy)
Zeddas 3: Labyrinthe, a Japanese adventure game that was previously assumed lost, leaked out today. There's a lot more to this story too https://t.co/U1gh7uJY3s
Phil Salvador (@ItsTheShadsy)
This comes from a private collector who, for some reason, put their collection in a private file-sharing directory. 67GB of Japanese games, including 76 games that have never been released online before
Phil Salvador (@ItsTheShadsy)
There are some absolute winners in this collection, like Cookie's Bustle, an Olympics-style sports game set during a political conspiracy and a visit from aliens
blueskyrunner 6/4/2018 9:39 PM
HOLY SHIT YES
9:39 PM
This is fantastic!
Deleted User 6/4/2018 9:41 PM
wild
blueskyrunner 6/4/2018 9:42 PM
What other games were leaked?
9:42 PM
Is there a list?
Revenant 6/4/2018 9:42 PM
i don't know if there's a list or a download
blueskyrunner 6/4/2018 9:42 PM
There didn't seem to be any in the tweets
9:43 PM
Ah
9:43 PM
I figured since Labyrinthe was up the others were too
9:43 PM
Or at least he'd have a full list of the games (edited)
9:44 PM
Also Cookie's Bustle sounds amazing and I need to play it right now
MusashiAA 6/4/2018 9:50 PM
Huh, guess I just reposted
divingkxt 6/4/2018 10:50 PM
Can anyone find a clean screenshot of Minis March Again's title screen? (edited)
10:51 PM
So far, there's a clean emulator screenshot for Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis' title screen.
10:51 PM
Do not get these two confused, but yeah, they have rather different title screens.
10:51 PM
Unfortunately, the only sources found for the sequel are shitty JPEGs.
DarthDubඞ 6/4/2018 10:56 PM
i would if luma worked in dsi mode
10:56 PM
i actually own the game too
10:57 PM
3ds capture card/dsi capture card sounds like the only plausible thing right now and i have neither
Laenthor 6/4/2018 11:19 PM
Uh?
11:20 PM
Hehe, can someone either delete this or move it to my actual talk page?
11:20 PM
https://tcrf.net/User_talk:Ltr121312
User talk:Ltr121312
divingkxt 6/4/2018 11:22 PM
Seems like they tried typing in your name by memory.
Laenthor 6/4/2018 11:22 PM
yeah, probably an old comment, but they didn't create a topic either way so, noob mistake is more likely than anything else
11:23 PM
I did change my name a while back and I still have some comments linking to my old user page, that's the most likely reason
divingkxt 6/4/2018 11:23 PM
Definitely.
11:25 PM
That's why users usually don't delete their old user page redirects though.
Laenthor 6/4/2018 11:25 PM
I didn't?
divingkxt 6/4/2018 11:25 PM
You requested the redirect to be deleted.
Laenthor 6/4/2018 11:26 PM
Ah I did?
11:26 PM
Hmm, weird
divingkxt 6/4/2018 11:26 PM
Says so in the log.
Laenthor 6/4/2018 11:26 PM
I don't think I specified or was asked
11:26 PM
Oh well, it's not a big deal
Smoke 6/4/2018 11:27 PM
Placeholder page: https://tcrf.net/Max_Payne_3
Max Payne 3
divingkxt 6/4/2018 11:30 PM
@Smoke Baleeted.
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Laenthor 6/4/2018 11:59 PM
hey @divingkxt , I'd like to add this to the featured articles page, what do you think? https://tcrf.net/Harry_Potter_and_the_Sorcerer%27s_Stone_(Windows,_Mac_OS_Classic,_Mac_OS_X)
HarryPotter_and_the_Sorcerer%27s_Stone(Windows,Mac_OS_Classic,...
divingkxt 6/5/2018 12:01 AM
And you got everything?
Laenthor 6/5/2018 12:02 AM
pretty much. I could double check for sound effects but besides that, I think it's clean
12:03 AM
The major stuff is done for sure at least
divingkxt 6/5/2018 12:04 AM
Ding.
Laenthor 6/5/2018 12:04 AM
It's on it?
divingkxt 6/5/2018 12:04 AM
Refresh the main page for that article.
Laenthor 6/5/2018 12:05 AM
how do I get a specific featured article? I thought it was random
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/5/2018 12:05 AM
f(x)^3 6/5/2018 12:06 AM
12:06 AM
Heh, love finding these
divingkxt 6/5/2018 12:07 AM
@Laenthor It is random.
12:07 AM
However, all of them are categorized.
Laenthor 6/5/2018 12:07 AM
Aww, well I can see it's on there at least
divingkxt 6/5/2018 12:08 AM
It's just that we haven't written the blurbs for all of them yet. (edited)
Laenthor 6/5/2018 12:08 AM
Ah ok. If you want I can write a small paragraph for this one
12:08 AM
Although not today, I'm off to bed in 5 minutes
divingkxt 6/5/2018 12:10 AM
I can do it.
12:10 AM
But do feel free to improve it.
Laenthor 6/5/2018 12:10 AM
Where do I go to modify these texts? I was actually wondering about that
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 12:14 AM
compiled the rotfd extractor, found this, don't remember hearing it
divingkxt 6/5/2018 12:14 AM
Probably for that tech demo.
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 12:15 AM
so this is unused?
divingkxt 6/5/2018 12:16 AM
I dunno.
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 12:16 AM
divingkxt 6/5/2018 12:16 AM
Sure sounds like it has a low bit rate though.
12:17 AM
Keep in mind that RotFD and Jimmy Neutron on the GC/PS2 share the same engine.
12:17 AM
And in fact, were made by a team who were largely familiar with the PS1.
12:17 AM
Which explains a lot of the eccentricities.
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 12:19 AM
FMecha 6/5/2018 12:58 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ can you translate the text on bottom?
12:59 AM
This too, I know it talks about racing special models
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/5/2018 1:06 AM
@FMecha 参加資格: Entry qualification ライセンス保持者 Licensee 車種無差別: Open category チューンド·カー可: Tuned car permitted レーシングスペシャルモデルのみ: Racing special model only (edited)
FMecha 6/5/2018 1:07 AM
And those?
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/5/2018 1:09 AM
メモリーカード: Memory card GTのDATAがありません: Doesn't exist GT data. しばらくお待ち下さい: Please wait (edited)
punk7890 6/5/2018 1:35 AM
素敵
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/5/2018 1:36 AM
ありがとうございます
punk7890 6/5/2018 1:36 AM
anytime
1:37 AM
had too much free time today
1:38 AM
so I found 5 debug menus in 5 different games
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/5/2018 1:38 AM
now you can rest for 4 days
punk7890 6/5/2018 1:39 AM
correct
Neko May 6/5/2018 2:53 AM
Sorry, corporate wants this to be your new target, get me 5 more tomorrow or you're fired.
eientei 6/5/2018 3:29 AM
LunieFrost - Yesterday at 11:10 AM "users" No one is even saying its a rom hack, lmao no one is saying it's fake, we're just waiting on confirmation its the real thing
3:29 AM
lol
DarthDubඞ 6/5/2018 3:30 AM
oh gosh
eientei 6/5/2018 3:32 AM
Meanwhile I've said "fuck it" and am now filling up a DigitalOcean HD with YT videos linked to and embedded in TCRF
Neko May 6/5/2018 3:43 AM
Are those Bulbapedia idiots still being completely fucking obstinate?
DarthDubඞ 6/5/2018 3:44 AM
sometimes people will get attention even if it's in a negative light
3:44 AM
that's probably what they're going for
Neko May 6/5/2018 3:46 AM
YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER meme
eientei 6/5/2018 3:48 AM
@Neko May Yup (edited)
Neko May 6/5/2018 3:52 AM
Ugh
tape 6/5/2018 3:53 AM
expecting game freak to intentionally confirm anything would be like expecting half life 3 to come out
Rlan 6/5/2018 3:58 AM
Ahoy hoy
DarthDubඞ 6/5/2018 3:59 AM
i see some guy talking about unused content
Rlan 6/5/2018 4:02 AM
It's small, but I don't think it's been mentioned.
4:03 AM
Was going through the Dreamcast 'Generator' demo disc looking for trailers for Sonic The Hedgeblog / Sega City content.
4:03 AM
Turns out there was a Sample SFD file on there (The video format)
4:03 AM
It's actually a video of the Sonic 3D Blast intro from the Saturn.
4:04 AM
But.. it's actually better. It runs at 30fps, while the original runs at 15fps on the PC and Saturn versions.
DarthDubඞ 6/5/2018 4:05 AM
you should get in touch with jon burton on his youtube channel called gamehut
punk7890 6/5/2018 6:20 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1003944369404039168
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in D.N.A. Dark Native Apostle (PS2) https://t.co/ohJ3pUY3Qf Sadly, it appears to be missing the other menu options. Nothing in the list works. Perhaps "KillerB" was an early name for the game.
6:20 AM
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CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/5/2018 7:58 AM
@JacobLenstar yeah i've never heard those sounds
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/5/2018 10:26 AM
10:26 AM
I found debug menu in Global Force: Shin Sentou Kokka.
Deleted User 6/5/2018 10:52 AM
also correct me if im wrong on this because this is speculation but you know this thing in SegaSonic's proto right
10:52 AM
10:52 AM
well i was looking at the gif and i wondered why it looked so off
10:53 AM
then it hit me; the frames timing and length is all wrong!
10:53 AM
now why do i think that?
10:53 AM
well, it's because there's smears in the GIF
10:54 AM
if you don't know what smears are, basically they're frames in animated shorts where it simulates motion blur in real life like say when somethings going fast
10:54 AM
10:54 AM
as seen here
10:55 AM
so with that in mind i think what the timing actually is is that the animation was supposed to rev up, then immediately convert to the smears when the non smears are fast enough
10:55 AM
here's the "timing corrected" version that I made
Ewzzy 6/5/2018 11:01 AM
that looks great
Deleted User 6/5/2018 11:04 AM
Can't bother to do the slow down part
11:04 AM
does anyone want to 1v1 in Tetris?
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/5/2018 11:53 AM
11:55 AM
I found debug menu in Sentou Kokka Kai: Improved. but It is not working(?) needs more investigate (edited)
GerbilSoft 6/5/2018 12:12 PM
and now, it's time for the Ignorant GBAtemp Post of the Day
12:12 PM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/microsoft-purchases-github.506294/page-5#post-8027887
Microsoft purchases GitHub
I don't understand you people. Microsoft bought Minecraft and expanded it. Windows 10 allows you to run UNIX codes straight from its own cmd prompt...
12:12 PM
`Linus Torvalds - "Microsoft is a piece of shit and they make shitty things" Bil Gates - "Here, here little Linny. I have some 7,5 billions for my little friend~" Linus Torvalds - "B-BILL SENPAI! PLEASE TAKE MY OS AND MY GITHUB! :'D"`
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/5/2018 12:13 PM
1000 MEMBERS
Revenant 6/5/2018 12:13 PM
common mistake, linus actually invented pornhub
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/5/2018 12:15 PM
@Silvio is the 1000th member
Rena 6/5/2018 12:23 PM
12:23 PM
I guess we don't have :toot: here
Silvio 6/5/2018 12:40 PM
What
12:40 PM
For real
12:41 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/5/2018 12:41 PM
yup
Silvio 6/5/2018 12:42 PM
Holy sh
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/5/2018 12:57 PM
Spaceworld demo probably boosted us a few hundred users
Dezent 6/5/2018 1:00 PM
Dang, TCRF is that big? o.o
1:00 PM
I always thought that there was like 200-300 users in here only
1:00 PM
lmao
Silvio 6/5/2018 1:00 PM
More people to make better pages about more games.
Dezent 6/5/2018 1:00 PM
True
1:00 PM
And more people to talk to about random stuff too (edited)
Silvio 6/5/2018 1:02 PM
Heh
Halfbit 6/5/2018 1:07 PM
Thats awesome!
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/5/2018 1:33 PM
if i leave and come back, ill be number 1000
Neko May 6/5/2018 1:34 PM
@Patapon Fanatic #3: Try 500+
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/5/2018 2:30 PM
lol true
punk7890 6/5/2018 6:05 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice work
Meow 6/5/2018 7:38 PM
Ok so GS invited me back, I left this scene for people wondering but tonight came across and old backup of my Wii beta's, it reminded me about a debug mode left in Mario & Sonic, would anybody be interested in taking notes?
punk7890 6/5/2018 7:44 PM
welcome back
Meow 6/5/2018 7:52 PM
thanks I guess? lol
7:52 PM
btw punk you're the debug menu guy right?
Dezent 6/5/2018 7:57 PM
He indeed is the debug menu guy (edited)
7:57 PM
He probably could find a debug menu in the human body
Meow 6/5/2018 8:00 PM
Well maybe he'd be interested in the notes for Mario & Sonic? to enable it that is
8:00 PM
it requires editing a file
8:01 PM
about to test it on retail once the rom downloads but it's in the gamescom build I released
Deleted User 6/5/2018 8:23 PM
lol
8:23 PM
Punk the Debug Menu Guy
Δndrew P. 6/5/2018 8:38 PM
the debug menu to the universe
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/5/2018 8:40 PM
welcome back fam
Meow 6/5/2018 8:41 PM
idk if I'll stay
punk7890 6/5/2018 8:41 PM
I don't know anything about GameCube / Wii hacking
8:41 PM
@Meow
Meow 6/5/2018 8:42 PM
It's not reallyhacking, just extract the iso, edit a LUA file, open in dolphin emu and this builds got debug stuff enabled
Deleted User 6/5/2018 8:43 PM
>extract the iso >all the files are already there for you to edit
8:43 PM
my favorite thing about newer systems
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/5/2018 8:49 PM
now if only that was possible with the ps2 ratchet and clank games (edited)
Meow 6/5/2018 8:57 PM
shoop you missed the R&C beta on feebay and crash bandicoot
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 8:59 PM
the texture for shiny mr mime in my pokemon ranch has an eye in the top corner
8:59 PM
8:59 PM
the normal one doesn't
jimjam707 6/5/2018 9:00 PM
i was better off before i saw the eye texture tbh
Meow 6/5/2018 9:03 PM
possibly being released soon.. just waiting for owner to give the go ahead
9:04 PM
Deleted User 6/5/2018 9:05 PM
what am I lookin' at
9:05 PM
also that's a pretty good debug menu icon
9:05 PM
oh skylanders
9:05 PM
neat
9:06 PM
Crash HD was done by the same devs.
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:07 PM
I still don't understand why Activision thinks this "badass spyro" is a selling point.
9:08 PM
They should do a classic spyro figure though
9:08 PM
just for the sake of it (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:08 PM
what badass spyro?
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:08 PM
Exactly
9:08 PM
I was referring to Skylanders spyro though in all seriousness
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:09 PM
spyro hasn't mattered to skylanders in ages tbh so i never really cared what they did with him
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:09 PM
Activision likes to let IP's rot
9:09 PM
like EA
9:09 PM
So I'm not surprised
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:09 PM
at least they're trying with crash and spyro
Meow 6/5/2018 9:10 PM
EA ruined NFS
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:10 PM
those remasters mean big money for them and an obvious interest in new traditional games in those series
ChrisNonyminus 6/5/2018 9:10 PM
https://i.imgur.com/u3Jahoq.png hey check this out
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:10 PM
I just don't like EA or Activision that much
9:10 PM
Mostly because of the fact they're both crooked companies
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:10 PM
I don't either and I wouldn't care about activision at all if they didn't make the remasters
9:11 PM
EA has nothing
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:11 PM
Yeah the Spyro trilogy remaster looks interesting
9:11 PM
I'm guessing it's only for consoles though as I haven't saw it on steam
9:11 PM
Which I'm fine with
Meow 6/5/2018 9:12 PM
wait remaster of the originals???!
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:13 PM
Yes
Meow 6/5/2018 9:13 PM
oh shit now I do need a PS4
9:13 PM
so much for no current gen retails
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:13 PM
lol
9:13 PM
I'm lucky enough to have bought a ps4 years in advance for kingdom hearts 3
Meow 6/5/2018 9:13 PM
it's sad, I've never seen a PS4 in person yet I've had ps4 review code disks
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:14 PM
I own a PS4
Deleted User 6/5/2018 9:14 PM
it'll probably be announced for switch next week
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:14 PM
honestly you're probably right
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:14 PM
I need more games for my switch really
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:14 PM
but i have a switch as well so no big deal to me
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:14 PM
Hoping for a PC version though
9:14 PM
because mods
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:15 PM
if it doesn't you can count on the fans to make their own remaster
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:16 PM
Did they even announce a multiplatform release though?
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:16 PM
i don't think so
9:16 PM
it took a year for it to happen with crash but i don't think it'll take that long this time
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:18 PM
I think it's kinda stupid that Insomniac didn't trademark spyro though for their use only
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:19 PM
why? they left it behind on purpose
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:19 PM
Instead it got passed around to less than competent developers over the years
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:19 PM
I'd take the legend of spyro games over nothing, honestly
9:19 PM
plus some people liked a hero's tail
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:20 PM
The GBA games weren't bad either tbh
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:20 PM
never played them but they look decent enough
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:20 PM
They play pretty close to the 3D games
9:20 PM
though it's an isometric perspective
9:22 PM
The earlier GBA games of course
9:22 PM
The later games opted for a side scrolling perspective instead
9:23 PM
the Spyro and crash games were kinda shitty
9:23 PM
just a bunch of minigames that repeated later much harder
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:23 PM
crash purple is better than spyro orange, but neither are very good
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:23 PM
I only played Spyro Orange
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:24 PM
crash purple only makes you break all the boxes in the minigames to earn the gem, instead of completing every minigame 3 times
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:24 PM
tbh I've never really cared much for Crash. He's an okay character but something about him has never interested me really
9:25 PM
And yes I own Crash 1
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:25 PM
crash 1 is shite
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Deleted User 6/5/2018 9:25 PM
o o f .
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:25 PM
Well, that might be why it doesn't interest me
Halfbit 6/5/2018 9:25 PM
I loved Crash when I was little
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:25 PM
feels dated
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:26 PM
crash 1 suffers from extremely dated gameplay and some very bad decisions
9:26 PM
crash 2 is a gigantic improvement, and crash 3 is arguably even better than the second game, depending on who you ask
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:27 PM
I actually feel kinda the same with the first spyro.
9:27 PM
Though tbf I started with Spyro 3 so I'm spoiled
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:27 PM
i started with spyro 1 and I'd still say it's better than crash 1
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:28 PM
I didn't think the first Spyro was awful but it felt slower paced than 2 and 3
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:28 PM
it's slower paced because the levels are more focused on being big and exploration, instead of completing objectives
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:29 PM
Plus, the bosses weren't really very good tbh
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:29 PM
spyro 1 has terrible bosses
9:29 PM
they're more like slightly upgraded regular enemies, and the final boss is laughably pathetic for how much it was built up to
Halfbit 6/5/2018 9:31 PM
I thought Crash was a bit worn out with the 3rd game
9:31 PM
2 is my favorite
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:32 PM
3 is my favorite because it's the first one I've played, and it's the one I'm the best at
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:33 PM
'Same here hugo
9:33 PM
I started with Year of the Dragon
Halfbit 6/5/2018 9:33 PM
I remember watching my dad play Crash on the PS1 when I was little and I would ask him the stupidest questions
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:33 PM
Because of its slower pacing, I actually haven't completed Spyro 1
9:33 PM
completed 2 though
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:33 PM
spyro 3 and crash 3 are both great games, but it does feel a bit like they wanted to branch out into something else with how many new mechanics were introduced in both games
9:34 PM
i beat spyro 2, never beat 3, and almost beat 1 but then the disc broke
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:34 PM
I've 100%'d 2 and 3
9:34 PM
Well, technically beyond 100%
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:35 PM
i didn't 100% spyro 2 as a kid, but i did a couple of years ago
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:35 PM
My first save file ever actually bugged in 3 and I wasn't able to unlock super bonus round
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:35 PM
yeah 3 is pretty buggy cause it was rushed
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:36 PM
for whatever reason in fireworks factory, a Gem had ended up stuck on the roof of a building that's impossible to get to
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:36 PM
you can easily permanently lock yourself out of getting some gems or eggs
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:36 PM
and the gem's position was saved
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:36 PM
like, if you get one egg in a speedway but leave before getting the other one, the second egg is now permanently impossible to get on that save file
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:37 PM
The Greatest Hits version fixed locking you out of eggs
9:37 PM
in the speedway
Halfbit 6/5/2018 9:37 PM
You could try swapping a v1.0 disc with v.1.1 disc
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:37 PM
unfortunately that's not the version on the ps3 store, which is the copy i have
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:37 PM
Yeah saves are compatible with both
9:37 PM
I've tested it
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:37 PM
i only own ps1 discs for the first two games
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:37 PM
I own both versions
9:37 PM
well both US versions
9:38 PM
They actually changed a lot in the greatest hits release
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:38 PM
also believe it or not enter the dragonfly was my first spyro game
9:38 PM
even as a young kid i knew it was terrible
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:38 PM
Ouch
Meow 6/5/2018 9:38 PM
Good news, Skylanders builds coming soon.
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:39 PM
i vividly remember one of the NPCs having their dialogue glitch out
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:39 PM
Surprised you gave the series another chance after playing that mess
9:39 PM
I will give Enter the Dragonfly credit though
9:39 PM
it tried to be like the original trilogy at least (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:40 PM
like, he would tell me i couldn't enter one of the worlds because i didn't have enough dragonflies, and then 2 seconds later he'd play his dialogue for me being allowed entry (even though i still couldn't go in)
Meow 6/5/2018 9:43 PM
Oh shit this Skylanders build seems to have cut levels
9:44 PM
9:45 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:45 PM
oh so that's what those screens were, skylanders?
Meow 6/5/2018 9:45 PM
yeah
9:45 PM
Skylanders Giants alpha builds
divingkxt 6/5/2018 9:46 PM
@Meow How's your kitten doing?
Meow 6/5/2018 9:47 PM
Kitten? he's 4 years old haha
9:47 PM
but he's doing good thanks
9:47 PM
way better then he was dying on the streets
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:48 PM
@Hugette Hikari https://tcrf.net/Spyro:_Year_of_the_Dragon#Revisional_Differences.2FGlitches
Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Tato 6/5/2018 9:48 PM
this server smells weird. I am leaving
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:49 PM
There's a huge amount of differences between the two versions, not just bug fixes
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:49 PM
oh i know
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:49 PM
Several music tracks are unique to greatest hits which is crazy
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:49 PM
missing cutscene was put back in, soundtrack was finished, etc
9:49 PM
a lot of songs were reused because the soundtrack literally just wasn't finished by the time the game went out
9:50 PM
they barely made the 2000 release date deadline, and they only did it by rushing the game out the door (edited)
9:50 PM
still a pretty solid game either way, which is surprising
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:54 PM
You should get the PS1 game, or wait for the trilogy
9:54 PM
I hope they put the proper music in the trilogy version...
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:54 PM
I'll just wait for the trilogy
Glisp 6/5/2018 9:55 PM
I can't stand Sunrise Springs playing during Sorceress' Lair (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/5/2018 9:55 PM
somehow hearing that song play there is nostalgic for me
9:56 PM
I don't know how, cause i never played it as a kid
Meow 6/5/2018 9:58 PM
Glisp 6/5/2018 10:02 PM
My problem with it is that it just doesn't fit
10:03 PM
I mean, why would you use a peaceful home world theme for a boss?
10:08 PM
I feel bad for people that got Spyro 3 in europe
10:08 PM
they were screwed out of most of the music updates for the bug fix
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 10:08 PM
more rotfd sounds
10:09 PM
10:10 PM
10:10 PM
these sounds are so ominous
10:11 PM
like what are they?
10:11 PM
10:14 PM
10:14 PM
what is PS?
10:15 PM
Glisp 6/5/2018 10:15 PM
Playstation?
10:15 PM
I dunno
10:15 PM
lol
10:16 PM
Player Sound maybe?
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 10:16 PM
no it's a character or object in the game
10:16 PM
it isn't Patrick Star
10:16 PM
I have never heard this sound
10:16 PM
jesus how much got cut in this game?
Glisp 6/5/2018 10:17 PM
The first two sounds sound like pirate noises... lol
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 10:17 PM
maybe it's pirate ship
10:17 PM
pirate something
10:17 PM
I dunno
Halfbit 6/5/2018 10:17 PM
Pro Skater?
Glisp 6/5/2018 10:17 PM
The PXert and Phit I was referring to
10:17 PM
but Pirate ship doesn't sound far off
10:18 PM
for the other sounds I mean
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 10:19 PM
Glisp 6/5/2018 10:19 PM
@divingkxt Still want to see this model found someday
10:20 PM
The Gary song sounds like his song from that one episode
divingkxt 6/5/2018 10:20 PM
That same episode where Spongebob transformed into a snail.
Glisp 6/5/2018 10:20 PM
yeah
divingkxt 6/5/2018 10:20 PM
And Squidward.
Glisp 6/5/2018 10:21 PM
that one
divingkxt 6/5/2018 10:21 PM
I Was A Teenage Gary.
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 10:21 PM
it isn't
10:22 PM
not unused but THAT'S what that sound is?
Glisp 6/5/2018 10:22 PM
Yeah, now that you mention it it does sound different
JacobLenstar 6/5/2018 10:22 PM
I thought it was either a kazoo or a kid whining
10:22 PM
or cheering
Glisp 6/5/2018 10:27 PM
Back when Vivec was still Open Canton in TES III, this is actually a pre-release mockup that came from a development video the devs made to show what they wanted the game to be like. The video itself has never been found and may have been for in house viewing only
10:28 PM
The day I get around to it, there is a lot to go over in this image alone as it reveals many pre-release assets cut from the final game (edited)
10:29 PM
as for why vivec was made closed canton, it had to do with performance issues on most PC's around the time.
10:30 PM
there have been mods to restore the open canton look, but there is still noticable slowdown
10:30 PM
(because the Morrowind engine isn't very good obviously)
10:31 PM
Open MW solves this issue for the most part but for the time being, I personally use the vanilla engine (patched with morrowind code patch of course) (edited)
10:33 PM
@divingkxt have you sat down and played Morrowind at all yet?
divingkxt 6/5/2018 11:07 PM
Too busy with a job and TCRF.
Δndrew P. 6/5/2018 11:10 PM
I’m gonna continue working on that page i started working on soon, maybe when summer break starts.
Meow 6/6/2018 3:50 AM
escape209 6/6/2018 3:54 AM
GETITEM1 is the sound for getting underwear
3:55 AM
and holy crap that's a lot of unused sounds for the pirate
punk7890 6/6/2018 4:42 AM
私はここだ (edited)
punk7890 6/6/2018 5:53 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1004300073327423488 Hadouken!
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found some leftover arcade code, and an unused menu option in Street Fighter EX3 (PS2) https://t.co/R2PUPhCywS Hadouken! The dip switch menus allow you to toggle various settings. The unused menu, named "EX OPTION" doesn't do anything, however, it is "under constraction!"
5:55 AM
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1
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Dezent 6/6/2018 5:55 AM
Neat
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/6/2018 6:06 AM
neat 素晴らしい
punk7890 6/6/2018 6:11 AM
ありがとうございます！ (edited)
6:16 AM
Also. the menu controls for the dip switches were messed up. It was trying to read button inputs but instead was pointing to "CAPCOM" copyright text lol
EdTheNerd 6/6/2018 6:20 AM
Lol
GerbilSoft 6/6/2018 8:11 AM
We're looking at setting the Wii console type depending on the disc signature
8:12 AM
If that's implemented, then TLS should work
8:12 AM
(the last story)
8:13 AM
I might try doing that on ulgx also, though I'm not sure if that'll cause any weird side effects
GerbilSoft 6/6/2018 10:17 AM
http://www.unicode.org/emoji/charts-11.0/emoji-released.html
10:18 AM
Unicode 11 released, with moar emoji
DevEd 6/6/2018 10:19 AM
>bone emoji
10:19 AM
took them long enough :V
eientei 6/6/2018 10:19 AM
Move over eggplant
Huks 6/6/2018 10:24 AM
Can't wait to use these emojis when they reach Discord in about two years' time
GerbilSoft 6/6/2018 10:45 AM
discord's still stuck on unicode 9
10:47 AM
https://developers.slashdot.org/story/18/06/06/132215/microsoft-addresses-pressure-from-developer-community-promises-to-rename-gvfs MS caves
Microsoft Addresses Pressure From Developer Community, Promises To...
DuroSoft writes: Earlier this week an article ran about how Microsoft's multi-year refusal to rename its terabyte-scale Git extension "GVFS" (Git Virtual File System) had drawn the ire and dismay of the GNOME GVfs project (Gnome Virtual File System) which predates the Microso...
FMecha 6/6/2018 11:02 AM
I could have asked @Athena 悠里マヤ for this, but it looks like Athena is offline atm https://tcrf.net/images/c/c0/GT1_TRIAL_CAR_DESC_WIP.png
FMecha 6/6/2018 11:28 AM
And perhaps this too
Dezent 6/6/2018 12:04 PM
Early GT1 images?
FMecha 6/6/2018 12:06 PM
Indeed https://tcrf.net/Proto:Gran_Turismo_(PlayStation)
Proto:Gran Turismo (PlayStation)
Dezent 6/6/2018 12:06 PM
Funky
Nex 6/6/2018 12:07 PM
new funky mode!
Dezent 6/6/2018 12:07 PM
I never knew that they were planning on swapping rims, feature that appeared later in GT2
FMecha 6/6/2018 12:18 PM
502 Bad Gateway
Revenant 6/6/2018 12:19 PM
uh oh
GerbilSoft 6/6/2018 12:26 PM
tcrf server status: https://media.giphy.com/media/dbtDDSvWErdf2/giphy.gif
Dezent 6/6/2018 12:30 PM
Neko May 6/6/2018 12:38 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006: Great choice of image for the #announcements channel. :3
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/6/2018 12:38 PM
thanks lul
Nex 6/6/2018 12:38 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/6/2018 12:39 PM
Neko May 6/6/2018 12:40 PM
Revenant 6/6/2018 12:40 PM
GerbilSoft 6/6/2018 12:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/4xYE7DX.png
Neko May 6/6/2018 12:41 PM
Revenant 6/6/2018 12:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ1fv2UjZas
YouTube Executive
Bart hits homer with chair: Eric Andre
Sunk 6/6/2018 12:42 PM
shitposting in #tcrf. hits so close to home...
Hiccup 6/6/2018 12:44 PM
Neko May 6/6/2018 12:44 PM
12:45 PM
Accompany with 1000Hz tone
GerbilSoft 6/6/2018 12:45 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/6/2018 12:45 PM
Neko May 6/6/2018 12:47 PM
Revenant 6/6/2018 12:51 PM
9
Deleted User 6/6/2018 12:52 PM
time to change the tcrf favicon
Neko May 6/6/2018 12:53 PM
Oh God. XD
Revenant 6/6/2018 12:53 PM
this is what i spend lunchtime at work doing
Sunk 6/6/2018 12:54 PM
i need an adult
Revenant 6/6/2018 12:56 PM
i was going to bid on safestuff's paperboy 2 proto last night but i got distracted and missed it
12:56 PM
it probably wouldn't be as interesting as their sfa2/mmx3/ms pac protos though
blueskyrunner 6/6/2018 1:13 PM
What the fuck is even with that Ms. Pac Man
Revenant 6/6/2018 1:17 PM
nobody knows
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/6/2018 2:20 PM
Revenant 6/6/2018 2:21 PM
two ms. pac pins in a row
2:21 PM
that is obscene
Damascio 6/6/2018 2:26 PM
She's a sociopac
blueskyrunner 6/6/2018 2:27 PM
Nightmare
Tsugato 6/6/2018 2:37 PM
Hey, anybody had time checking out that leaked Labyrinthe game?
Dezent 6/6/2018 2:44 PM
sees the Ms. Pac Man pins https://www.tenor.co/WmUi.gif
ChrisNonyminus 6/6/2018 3:25 PM
what's this whole ms pacman thing people keep talking about
3:25 PM
a proto?
GerbilSoft 6/6/2018 3:30 PM
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Ms._Pac-Man_(SNES)
Proto:Ms. Pac-Man (SNES)
3:30 PM
GerbilSoft 6/6/2018 3:47 PM
https://www.fark.com/comments/10048610/That-router-malware-FBI-told-us-about-last-week-Yeah-its-worse-than-we-thought fyi
That router malware the FBI told us about last week? Yeah, it's wo...
That router malware the FBI told us about last week? Yeah, it's worse than we thought
3:47 PM
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/06/vpnfilter-malware-infecting-50000-devices-is-worse-than-we-thought/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
VPNFilter malware infecting 500,000 devices is worse than we thought
Malware tied to Russia can attack connected computers and downgrade HTTPS.
3:47 PM
"Now, researchers from Cisco’s Talos security team say additional analysis shows that the malware is more powerful than originally thought and runs on a much broader base of models, many from previously unaffected manufacturers."
3:47 PM
so if you haven't already, reboot your router
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/6/2018 3:47 PM
i figured it would be obvious it would affect more
NickGemini12 6/6/2018 5:34 PM
Hello everyone
Halfbit 6/6/2018 5:35 PM
Hi
NickGemini12 6/6/2018 5:36 PM
Been getting into finding unused content in games, There are 2 games I've been trying to look for unused content in.
5:39 PM
Shaq Fu for the Sega Genesis & NFL Blitz for Mame
5:39 PM
It was recently mentioned in an article that those 2 had quite abit of stuff taken out from them to keep the rating down.
5:40 PM
What software could i use to find unused, hidden graphics, text in a Sega Genesis Rom & A Mame Rom?
cuba200611 6/6/2018 5:49 PM
A hex editor.
5:49 PM
Text is pretty easy - graphics, that I don't know...
5:50 PM
And arcade games usually come in multiple ROM images - it's just that they are packed in a ZIP for convenience (and also to use less disk space)
5:51 PM
It would be helpful to look at MAME source code for a particular arcade game's hardware, since it does say which ROM images contain what type of data (program, graphics, etc.) (edited)
5:52 PM
I've ripped PCM data from a few arcade games with the help of that...
Meow 6/6/2018 6:33 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/coming-soon-skylanders-giants-x6-builds-tag-programmer.24842/ I'll just leave this here.
Wii - Coming Soon! - Skylanders Giants x6 builds + Tag Programmer
Coming this weekend (hopefully!) The first ever "decrypted" Wii RVT-H dumps. @GerbilSoft before I left this scene had started working on a tool to extract data from Wii RVT-H developer kits which contain a 40GB or 80GB Hard Drive. Recently, I came across a backup of the i...
Glisp 6/6/2018 7:09 PM
Since when was this a chat for sharing memes?
Splitwirez 6/6/2018 7:09 PM
This channel or the whole server?
Glisp 6/6/2018 7:09 PM
the channel
7:09 PM
(scroll up)
Deleted User 6/6/2018 7:11 PM
from one account luigi's mansion 2 was gonna be a fuckton darker than the first game
Halfbit 6/6/2018 7:12 PM
Nice avatar @Deleted User I love Mr. Gimmick
Deleted User 6/6/2018 7:12 PM
thank
7:12 PM
5b makes it better
Halfbit 6/6/2018 7:12 PM
Agreed
DeadlyDilemma 6/6/2018 7:16 PM
7:16 PM
found some aesthetic
7:16 PM
on TCRF
Deleted User 6/6/2018 7:26 PM
Solo Cup: The Game
Deleted User 6/6/2018 7:41 PM
Anyone noticed that someone discovered Pokemon Gold SpaceWorld 1997 Demo? Like 7 Days ago
LarryLemmy 6/6/2018 7:41 PM
Can't say I've noticed
Splitwirez 6/6/2018 7:44 PM
No, I don't think aaaaanyone here was aware of that.
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/6/2018 7:46 PM
I don't think anyone has noticed the biggest leak ever, not at all
Deleted User 6/6/2018 7:47 PM
Theres absolutely no channel in this server dedicated to it
7:49 PM
@Splitwirez I don't think I had the time to look around buddy.
Splitwirez 6/6/2018 7:49 PM
Okay fair point, that joke was a bit much
7:49 PM
My apologies :c
7:50 PM
...in all seriousness though, is it even possible to have not noticed the leak by now...?
GerbilSoft 6/6/2018 7:50 PM
Splitwirez 6/6/2018 7:50 PM
Deleted User 6/6/2018 7:56 PM
Splitwirez 6/6/2018 7:58 PM
escape209 6/6/2018 8:05 PM
Dezent 6/6/2018 8:05 PM
leilei 6/6/2018 8:06 PM
guys guys guys resetera found the beta of pokemon gold from spaceworld 94 (edited)
Meow 6/6/2018 8:12 PM
How the hell you meant to sign up there when they've blocked every email provider? lol gmail/live/outlook/hotmail even my personal email domains blacklisted which is funny seeing as less then 10 people use it.
leilei 6/6/2018 8:16 PM
the isp email requirement has drama prevention in mind
8:16 PM
which of course doesn't work
8:17 PM
also emails from self-hosted domains aren't allowed either
8:17 PM
but that's beside the point. beta's
Deleted User 6/6/2018 8:20 PM
Many games go through changes throughout development, but its interesting when these old builds get leaked
8:21 PM
Btw beta is usually the testing stage as alpha is usually the active development
8:21 PM
resetbeta
leilei 6/6/2018 8:21 PM
betas are either offering interesting development insight, or coolthingtohaveforbraggingrightsontheinternet
8:21 PM
or final releases
8:22 PM
there was a point in time when beta versions are considered lame and purged when the finals came (edited)
Deleted User 6/6/2018 8:23 PM
The zelda debug rom is a final pal build
8:23 PM
Just ntsc ized
8:23 PM
And with debug featured
8:24 PM
Still has all the cool unused stuff
8:25 PM
Re1.5 is the opposite (edited)
8:26 PM
Pokemon spaceworld is probably early days in development to go back to Pokemon
8:29 PM
Also if im being a pest ill stop (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/6/2018 8:31 PM
@FMecha 準備中です: preparing now 購入したタイヤのホイールを選ぶことができます。ホイールカタログから気に入ったホイールを選んでください: You can select purchased wheel. Select favorite wheel from wheel catalog.
Dezent 6/6/2018 8:39 PM
Hm, interesting
8:39 PM
Thank you
8:40 PM
The "preparing now" line is a bit odd, why would it say that in the car description / history menu? Placeholder perhaps?
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/6/2018 8:53 PM
probably placeholder
Borman 6/6/2018 8:55 PM
Beta phase can still be active development. Look at my previous comments with actual examples from game development
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/6/2018 9:16 PM
deee kaay
Hugette Hikari 6/6/2018 9:16 PM
donkey kong?
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/6/2018 9:16 PM
basically
Deleted User 6/6/2018 9:17 PM
i never said all changes stop
9:18 PM
but thats when the game is sent to 3rd party companies for major testing
9:19 PM
i probably should have been more specific
9:19 PM
i do work in game development
9:20 PM
i mostly do light coding and 3d art
9:25 PM
thats all ill say about it though
Halfbit 6/6/2018 9:26 PM
Do you know what it’s like porting a Wii U gane to Switch?
Deleted User 6/6/2018 9:27 PM
unless your game uses a 3rd party engine that does the bulk of the work for you a lot of the code needs to be redone
Halfbit 6/6/2018 9:27 PM
Take MK8 for example
Deleted User 6/6/2018 9:28 PM
i dont work for nintendo so im sure they have proprietary tools i will never have access to (edited)
9:29 PM
but they probably just ported their dev tools to the switch (edited)
old acc! inactive 6/6/2018 9:30 PM
5
Deleted User 6/6/2018 9:30 PM
lol
9:31 PM
i see you use the insider builds
9:32 PM
probably an inside joke
9:33 PM
but seeing it in the final product has me scratching my head
9:34 PM
in one of my games that was canceled we had to characters code named "Sake" and "Chici"
9:34 PM
they were brother and sister (edited)
9:35 PM
we might reuse them with proper names
LuigiBlood 6/6/2018 9:36 PM
are you freaking serious lol
Deleted User 6/6/2018 9:36 PM
yes
9:39 PM
the bonzi buddy reference is pure gold
divingkxt 6/6/2018 10:11 PM
@old acc! inactive I think I might know why.
10:11 PM
It's part of a long list of strings borrowed from Windows 8.1/10.
10:12 PM
And that makes extra sense considering the Xbone is now similar hardware-wise for a respectable gaming PC.
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:12 PM
dont xbox ones run custom versions of windows 10?
10:16 PM
I still hold the idea that ist an inside joke
10:17 PM
theres no reason why the api has hardcoded references to specific applications (edited)
leilei 6/6/2018 10:18 PM
hardcoded compatibility has been around windows for a very long time
10:18 PM
win95 used to detect known dos games to suggest msdos mode before running
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:18 PM
ah
leilei 6/6/2018 10:18 PM
and that's regarding most pre-july1995 dos games without accompanying .pif files (edited)
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:19 PM
didnt even consider compatibility mode
10:21 PM
it must be an extensive list considering windows runs on x86 amd64 arm and arm64
10:23 PM
also considering windows nt ran on mips and risc machines its even longer
leilei 6/6/2018 10:24 PM
apps.inf
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:24 PM
also sorry if im starting to get, well annoying
leilei 6/6/2018 10:24 PM
you're not annoying (edited)
10:25 PM
it's okay to be interrogative here
10:25 PM
as long as it's not about bowser cosplaying as buzzlightyear, anyway
cuba200611 6/6/2018 10:25 PM
Yeah, don't be that pushy
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:25 PM
Was about to bring that up xD
10:25 PM
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:27 PM
in the older zelda communities people get petty over, well trivial reasons. its a non issue now but ive seen lives get ruined
leilei 6/6/2018 10:27 PM
i know. like sterling's 7/10 botw (edited)
darkwitchclaire 6/6/2018 10:27 PM
I'm not surprised
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:27 PM
forgive me if im cautious
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:28 PM
It's okay to be. There'a a difference between being curious and asking obvious questions
10:28 PM
You're fine tho
leilei 6/6/2018 10:33 PM
yeah the incident mentioned involved a load of questions which had answers that might as well write a history book of 80s-90s pop culture
10:34 PM
where idioms regarding game development were taken literally (edited)
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:35 PM
The weirdest one asked from that user was: Have you seen any artwork where Bowser cosplays as Buzz Lightyear?
leilei 6/6/2018 10:35 PM
and i don't think he was there for the games either, but as some random bowser fan chatroom
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:35 PM
Like, what can you reply to that?
leilei 6/6/2018 10:36 PM
he left on his own volition
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:36 PM
And he insisted on it, but yeah he eventually left. Not before posting his public info for some reason.
leilei 6/6/2018 10:36 PM
didn't really break rules, but did define "annoying" (edited)
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:37 PM
I can't figure out how he even came on here
leilei 6/6/2018 10:37 PM
i'd assume linked from a roblox forum (edited)
10:38 PM
though a mass discord invite list is also possible
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:38 PM
tfw u r playin ' roblox rn .
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:38 PM
?
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:38 PM
i'm playin ' roblox rn .
10:38 PM
ironic .
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:39 PM
Not really. Not sure why you had to point this out.
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:39 PM
probably because hes very young (edited)
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:39 PM
I assume, but still, I ask to know.
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:40 PM
actually .
leilei 6/6/2018 10:40 PM
maybe, though he's probably older than some here
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:40 PM
"i'd assume linked from a roblox forum"
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:40 PM
Did you come here from something like that?
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:40 PM
it was kinda relevant , i think ,
10:40 PM
btw , how old do u think i am ? - ? .
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:41 PM
idk, you just have a weird and inconsistant punctuation
10:42 PM
Lower than 15 if I had to guess
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:42 PM
Ur So Close . (edited)
10:42 PM
Redz = 16 .
10:42 PM
AGGRESIVE DABS . (edited)
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:43 PM
Leave the cringy memes in another discord please.
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:43 PM
fine .
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:43 PM
Or at least go in off-topic if your brain itches to meme hard
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:43 PM
i'll stahp .
10:44 PM
~t poses without knowing where t posing comes from (edited)
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:44 PM
It's not that we don't like memes, we just don't like forced/outdated ones.
Khangaroo 6/6/2018 10:44 PM
something tells me you aren't 16
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:44 PM
Most people don't
Khangaroo 6/6/2018 10:44 PM
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:46 PM
I don't like memes
10:46 PM
I don't even like the word "meme"
Khangaroo 6/6/2018 10:47 PM
you must have a very boring life then
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6pP0YO8KGQ
YourSecuritySucks
That's so very, very sad.
Deleted User 6/6/2018 10:47 PM
to me its harmless fun if you do them right
Laenthor 6/6/2018 10:48 PM
Is this a good meme?
10:49 PM
Probably not, I made this a few years ago
10:49 PM
Oops we're not in off-topic. Gonna stop posting memes here then
leilei 6/6/2018 10:53 PM
i'm too old for memes
Glisp 6/6/2018 11:03 PM
Ah Freakazoid, you're always full of memes
Hugette Hikari 6/6/2018 11:03 PM
a shame they never got a 3rd season
Glisp 6/6/2018 11:03 PM
totally
11:03 PM
I have the first season on DVD
11:03 PM
need to get Season 2 still
Hugette Hikari 6/6/2018 11:04 PM
i watched the whole show a few years ago when somebody had it all uploaded on youtube
Glisp 6/6/2018 11:04 PM
Same
Hugette Hikari 6/6/2018 11:04 PM
i teared up a bit at the end of the last episode
Glisp 6/6/2018 11:04 PM
I just want it on physical media
11:04 PM
I'm one of those people that likes owning physical media
Deleted User 6/6/2018 11:11 PM
nah ) ) .
Splitwirez 6/6/2018 11:14 PM
...that was a joke about the meme in question .-.
Deleted User 6/6/2018 11:14 PM
ik .
11:14 PM
wait , wrong channel .
Splitwirez 6/6/2018 11:14 PM
o no
Deleted User 6/6/2018 11:31 PM
anyone see a new patch for biohazard 1.5 got released
blueskyrunner 6/6/2018 11:54 PM
Whaaaaaat
11:54 PM
Link please
weapon_bugbait 6/7/2018 12:18 AM
I wanna give a quick shout out to whoever fixed the half-life prototype article
tape 6/7/2018 12:19 AM
if they didn't wallpaper the page in headcrab asses then is it even a fix
leilei 6/7/2018 12:20 AM
i assume you're thanking teflon
12:21 AM
who is not here (edited)
12:21 AM
teflon last did extensive overage of the shadow warrior alphas lately
HunniBun 6/7/2018 4:57 AM
question
4:57 AM
where is this from and where can i get more of it
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Uncanny 6/7/2018 4:58 AM
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Ms._Pac-Man_(SNES)
Proto:Ms. Pac-Man (SNES)
Dezent 6/7/2018 5:06 AM
You have to think, what drugs did the artist team smoke when they did that and where can I get some too
MysticSageJosh 6/7/2018 5:07 AM
I think it was speedball (edited)
eientei 6/7/2018 5:48 AM
3,130 youtube videos
5:54 AM
Had forgotten to export the proto and bugs pages
alphaTECH 6/7/2018 6:46 AM
I've done some digging around inside the GTA Advance ROM:
6:46 AM
https://gtaforums.com/topic/909996-gta-advance-beta-content/?do=findComment&comment=1070260978
GTA Advance BETA Content
Hey guys, Im Kamikatsu from the GTA Wiki. I just opened the GTA Advance ROM (.gba file) with a text editor and I found several interesting things that were removed from the game. I found a line with a list of vehicles from GTA III and that would probably be in that game, such...
eientei 6/7/2018 6:47 AM
>text editor
alphaTECH 6/7/2018 6:48 AM
That's not me
6:48 AM
I used a hex editor, his shit has watermarks all over it
eientei 6/7/2018 6:50 AM
6:51 AM
@alphaTECH Not only that, he uploaded the stuff to the GTA wikia and linked from there
6:51 AM
http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Beta_Releases_in_GTA_Advance
Beta Releases in GTA Advance
Before the release of Grand Theft Auto Advance, there were features that were removed from the final product. At the beginning of its development, GTA Advance was meant to be a portable version of...
6:52 AM
>If you open the game's ROM (.gba file) with the notepad or a hex editor, you will find some lines of code with a list of vehicles that were supposed to be part of an import/export sidemission. Interesting fact, some of these vehicles are from GTA III.
6:52 AM
>the notepad
6:54 AM
and this is why I tend to stay away from certain communities
alphaTECH 6/7/2018 7:04 AM
Yeah I know, GTA Wikia is a known cesspit when it comes to data accuracy. Their GTA Advance beta page is a disgrace.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/7/2018 7:05 AM
7:05 AM
im glad people are catching on
7:06 AM
7:06 AM
totally my own dumped cart, yes
7:06 AM
and the fucking huge watermark
Neko May 6/7/2018 7:28 AM
I'm surprised it's not 50% transparent and plastered across the center of the images DeviantArt-style.
Nex 6/7/2018 7:32 AM
big ass transparent logo covering the whole image
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/7/2018 7:55 AM
just open with IDA
Deleted User 6/7/2018 8:09 AM
hi
Daniel 6/7/2018 8:12 AM
hi
chausies 6/7/2018 8:40 AM
Hey guys, can someone make an edit for me (since I don't have an account)?
8:40 AM
On this list ( https://tcrf.net/Notes:Xenoblade_Chronicles/Item_ID_Values ), "Antol Gold Nugget" is incorrect
Item ID Values
8:41 AM
it should be "Apis Gold Nugget"
8:41 AM
anyone mind making that edit for me?
8:42 AM
@🔪 Mods maybe?
Nex 6/7/2018 8:45 AM
you could request an account
chausies 6/7/2018 8:50 AM
;~;
8:51 AM
I just wanted to update the list when I found it was wrong ;~;. But kay.
MysticSageJosh 6/7/2018 8:52 AM
I barely remember if i have a tcrf account lol
8:53 AM
I just come here because i like the people
8:53 AM
and the memes
Dezent 6/7/2018 9:02 AM
I don't have a TCRF account, because I don't know anything about digging games, but I'm fascinated about what people can find in them, especially if it's from my childhood games (most notably the Gran Turismo series)
9:03 AM
Plus, this is a cool and chill place to hang out and talk to people :p
MysticSageJosh 6/7/2018 9:04 AM
I'd probably try and figure out how to dump a prototype
9:04 AM
..that'd be it
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/7/2018 9:53 AM
wew
Dezent 6/7/2018 9:53 AM
wewlad
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/7/2018 9:54 AM
for comparison #tcrf has been around for 6 months
Dezent 6/7/2018 9:55 AM
In conclusion, people like pokemon
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/7/2018 10:26 AM
10:27 AM
I found debug menu in Azumanga Donjara Daioh.
Dezent 6/7/2018 10:31 AM
Nice
Nex 6/7/2018 10:47 AM
nice find
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/7/2018 10:49 AM
Thank you!
GerbilSoft 6/7/2018 12:01 PM
so for 2018, we have thousands of debug menus and pokemon GS 97
12:01 PM
:V
12:01 PM
(not complaining, of course)
LarryLemmy 6/7/2018 12:01 PM
Good year so far
MysticSageJosh 6/7/2018 12:04 PM
So I assume next year we're getting gen 1 spaceworld demos?
Splitwirez 6/7/2018 12:04 PM
O:
12:04 PM
xd
Dezent 6/7/2018 12:04 PM
Next year, we gonna get debug menus... for debug menus!
Splitwirez 6/7/2018 12:04 PM
GerbilSoft 6/7/2018 12:04 PM
yo dawg
12:04 PM
i heard you like debug menus
LarryLemmy 6/7/2018 12:05 PM
I had a dream about debug menus earlier this week...
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/7/2018 12:06 PM
i would like a debug menu for the debug menu
Hiccup 6/7/2018 12:06 PM
@Dezent In conclusion, the [popular news site] phenomenon happened (edited)
Dezent 6/7/2018 12:06 PM
Eeeh whatever close enough ;p
Sunk 6/7/2018 12:08 PM
is there a use for this emote?
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Dezent 6/7/2018 12:09 PM
Yes
12:09 PM
As a reaction
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/7/2018 12:47 PM
this emote is not only god tier (the CEO of Insomniac Games with a mullet and smug-ass expression on his face) but it's also an unused image in Ratchet Deadlocked
12:47 PM
and yet i never ser anybody use it
12:48 PM
12:48 PM
he looks like Jesus
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/7/2018 2:58 PM
@GerbilSoft inb4 we find a super mario 64 beta this year
2:59 PM
i can dream dammit
Huks 6/7/2018 3:01 PM
Now a Super Mario Bros. prototype would be the ultimate dream
3:01 PM
Probably never going to happen
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/7/2018 3:04 PM
Hiccup 6/7/2018 3:19 PM
DreamTR (famous collector) has claimed to own a suspect one. But I don't know if he has ever dumped anything. (edited)
Splitwirez 6/7/2018 3:19 PM
"suspect" meaning...?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/7/2018 3:21 PM
3:21 PM
INTERROGATION TIME
ZeaLitY 6/7/2018 3:21 PM
I wish I would've gotten the Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon proto he sold
3:21 PM
That was before I had just $400 lying around
Splitwirez 6/7/2018 3:21 PM
ZeaLitY 6/7/2018 3:21 PM
If anyone knows the chain of titel on that thing, it needs to be dumped, or at least described
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/7/2018 3:21 PM
this man could have the holy grail of prototypes
ZeaLitY 6/7/2018 3:22 PM
I remember in 1999, someone on our GE007 BBS literally asking his extended family in Russia to try and find a beta over there
Revenant 6/7/2018 3:22 PM
"But I don't know if he has ever dumped anything."
3:23 PM
i'm not aware of DreamTR ever dumping anything either
3:23 PM
just buying protos and (if you're lucky) eventually selling them again
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1
Nex 6/7/2018 3:28 PM
he never dumped anything, if something from his collection was dumped it was because someone else bought and released it (edited)
3:28 PM
as far as I know
Revenant 6/7/2018 3:31 PM
yeah that's my understanding too
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/7/2018 3:47 PM
When you're datamining and you find a new header but there's nothing about it on the internet anywhere
Gilgamesh 6/7/2018 4:02 PM
hello
4:07 PM
Someone would have AR codes for Star Wars - Rogue Squadron 3 - Rebel Strike?
Slashy 6/7/2018 5:51 PM
Can't you convert the decrypted codes back into AR codes?
Gilgamesh 6/7/2018 6:15 PM
gcncrypt
6:15 PM
dolphin
GerbilSoft 6/7/2018 6:16 PM
Ugh so I'm looking for a decent CD image handling library so I can add support for e.g. .CDI without much effort
6:16 PM
libmirage supports basically everything
6:16 PM
...but it requires glib
6:16 PM
I don't want to use glib on windows
Gilgamesh 6/7/2018 6:16 PM
https://twitter.com/gilgalegrouik/status/1004829403350695938
Gilgamesh (@gilgalegrouik)
Star Wars - Rogue Squadron III - Rebel Strike Interactive Multi-Game Demo Disc - Version 12 (D85E01) zz_starwars_game.tgc
leilei 6/7/2018 6:20 PM
rouge squad ron : rebel's trike
Gilgamesh 6/7/2018 6:20 PM
hum
6:21 PM
je ne comprends pas
punk7890 6/7/2018 6:33 PM
ja na
scoots (she/her) 6/7/2018 7:57 PM
Just noticed that the "default" cry on MissingNo.'s page actually belongs to 'M (00). https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Blue/MissingNo.
MissingNo.
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 7:57 PM
^
7:57 PM
it's been like that for a while
scoots (she/her) 6/7/2018 7:57 PM
you noticed it too?
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 7:58 PM
yeah i did
scoots (she/her) 6/7/2018 8:00 PM
MissingNo's default cry sounds like a male Nidoran, this goes for most of the RB normal forms and for the ghost and fossil forms
8:03 PM
stole this from chickasaurusgl, but heres the cry they normally use. goes for the ghost and fossil forms in yellow as well
Halfbit 6/7/2018 8:20 PM
Theres got to be sone enployees that kept then
Ketsuban 6/7/2018 8:22 PM
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Blue/Unseen_Graphics#Tilesets Is there any way to make the unused blocks more obvious in the images?
Unseen Graphics
Deleted User 6/7/2018 9:22 PM
could remove the used stuff
9:22 PM
or colourize the used tiles, leaving the unused ones unmodified.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/7/2018 9:25 PM
hello hacker fucker
punk7890 6/7/2018 9:35 PM
hi
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 9:47 PM
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver/Unused_Text#Hall_of_Fame
Unused Text
9:47 PM
should it be mentioned that this text doesn't appear due to a bug?
9:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHkWubvxmSg
SatoMew
Unused 201+ Hall of Fame entry message (Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal)
divingkxt 6/7/2018 10:10 PM
@Hugette Hikari YES
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 10:11 PM
whoa, just take it easy man
divingkxt 6/7/2018 10:12 PM
Although I suspect it's more of an edge casey thing.
10:13 PM
See also: Fallout 2's "true" ending, which can only be reached after 13 years of in-game time. (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 10:13 PM
there's evidence showing when and where the bug is triggered in the code
divingkxt 6/7/2018 10:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLwHApdaJFk
The Vault - Fallout Wiki
Fallout 2 Cutscenes: The End
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 10:13 PM
the video description explains it and has github links pointing out where and why it happens
10:14 PM
probably for the disassembly
10:15 PM
"The bug lies in this snippet of code: https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/master/engine/events/halloffame.asm#L373-L395 Instruction cp 200 + 1 is trying to check if the current entry is 201 but the instruction at https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/master/engine/events/halloffame.asm#L19-L23 instead makes sure that the counter never goes beyond 200." (edited)
10:15 PM
dammit
10:16 PM
there we go
divingkxt 6/7/2018 10:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MabGcG0Ao1k
GameHut
Things I'd Change in a TOY STORY: Director's Cut
Splitwirez 6/7/2018 10:25 PM
A Blob 6/7/2018 10:37 PM
Phew, okay let's see how much I added to the Sonic Forces article by adding just one more level-- "+11829"
3
2
10:37 PM
Hey, VSauce, DYKG here. Did you know? Sonic Forces is getting rediculous with its unused content. And there'll be a lot more. Yaaaay...
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DarthDubඞ 6/7/2018 10:38 PM
hopefully there'll be fanmade mods to make it "better"
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 10:38 PM
well, people have fixed classic sonic, at least
blueskyrunner 6/7/2018 10:41 PM
Let me know when a Chao garden is added to the game orz
A Blob 6/7/2018 10:46 PM
Also, hire German fandubbers and re-translate it. How can you mistranslate "Both of you just run fast and catch up (to Metal Sonic)!" and come out with "Run as fast as you can and catch up with us (Knuckles)." and still get paid? (edited)
Deleted User 6/7/2018 10:46 PM
let meh know when CyberShift gets finished . (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 11:11 PM
sonic games have been poorly translated or had massive edits to the script since sonic adventure 2
11:15 PM
the english translators at least like to add "spice" to the script, which is how we get gems such as this, even though the original script doesn't say anything like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veSFrIVKXOY (edited)
MisterDoubleYum
Shadow the Hedgehog - This is like taking candy from a baby.
11:16 PM
or lines like the infamous "tortured for 6 months/tails has lost it/green hill's looking a lot more like sand hill/that's why it's called war" (edited)
leilei 6/7/2018 11:17 PM
A Blob 6/7/2018 11:17 PM
At least those lines aren't read while squealing. https://youtu.be/84WXXnenhA4?t=35s
A Blob
Sonic Forces - Sonic the Rubberduck [CONTAINS SPOILERS]
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 11:18 PM
i don't think sega even cares at this point
A Blob 6/7/2018 11:18 PM
Whoever did the German localization didn't care at all... and the sad part is that those voice actors did decent at Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric's translation. (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 11:19 PM
but to be honest, with the horror stories of how much of a trainwreck the dubbing for adventure 2 was, it's kinda hard to say they ever really cared for what comes out of japan
11:21 PM
knowing this now, it really seems like sonic forces was a complete disaster in almost every aspect
A Blob 6/7/2018 11:22 PM
I'm more so scared about what could come next. This right now seems more like a Shadow the Hedgehog 2005 game. Like a "How could it possibly get worse?" game.
11:22 PM
But whatever.
Hugette Hikari 6/7/2018 11:23 PM
i'm completely disinterested in their racing game because it's just obvious filler that's not going to be any better than sonic riders
A Blob 6/7/2018 11:24 PM
Eh, it's Sumo Digital, they'll make it turn out at least decent.
Deleted User 6/8/2018 12:03 AM
hey Aria , turns out the link to the build = broken . I can try to get the build back up by tomorrow if u want .
12:03 AM
when ever im not in a rush
12:05 AM
eh , touché . but i'll have the build up by tomorrow .
12:08 AM
well , got's to go ( not fest ) . so long gay bowser . (edited)
Laenthor 6/8/2018 12:22 AM
When I get the time I'll translate the french voice clips from Sonic Forces. It's rare that I get to do my favourite thing on here, which is translating voice clips.
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12:27 AM
I translated 3 just to get it started and eww, the french VA for Sonic got even worse. It was already bad in Generations, but it's twice as cringy here.
Uncanny 6/8/2018 1:03 AM
has this been talked about here yet? Im interested to see what lies inside them all https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3anja/labyrinthe-japanese-game-discovered-on-private-forum
70 Long-Lost Japanese Video Games Have Been Discovered in a 67GB F...
They were found in a folder called "DO NOT UPLOAD."
Deleted User 6/8/2018 1:05 AM
what the fuck is that
1:05 AM
lol
DarthDubඞ 6/8/2018 1:08 AM
is that from the 90s
Uncanny 6/8/2018 1:08 AM
the game featured seems to be a japanese maze game (edited)
Deleted User 6/8/2018 1:08 AM
most likely
leilei 6/8/2018 1:08 AM
>vice
Deleted User 6/8/2018 1:09 AM
that game looks like something i would have bought
leilei 6/8/2018 1:10 AM
note: https://obscuritory.com/blog/lost-japanese-game-labyrinthe-released/
Phil "Shadsy" Salvador
[redacted] | The Obscuritory
-
divingkxt 6/8/2018 1:27 AM
"I’ve decide to redact this post. I was overeager, and I brought unwanted attention to sensitive information and may have caused additional harm. I’m sorry."
1:27 AM
Yeah, that's the dangerous part.
1:27 AM
Sometimes people do rip stuff, but don't feel comfortable uploading it.
1:28 AM
And keep in mind that Japanese copyright law is strict as heck.
leilei 6/8/2018 1:31 AM
and then there's vice's harrassment track record
1:31 AM
hopefully shadsy isn't vice'd
divingkxt 6/8/2018 1:40 AM
Vice the Viceful
DarthDubඞ 6/8/2018 1:47 AM
Vyse the Viceful
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/8/2018 2:11 AM
@divingkxt yet you can buy flashcart on Japan
2:11 AM
still, after ban
2:11 AM
what kind of loophole is this
2:12 AM
(oh I'm Japanese)
punk7890 6/8/2018 7:28 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1005048810479861761
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found 6 debug menus in Gambler Densetsu Tetsuya (PS2) https://t.co/h02JujgcGr These contain bgm / sfx / voice tests, memory card test options, controller tests, a quick start menu, a movie viewer, and a image cut-in viewer.
7:28 AM
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Neko May 6/8/2018 7:59 AM
Heehee, the last option on the menu in brackets. X3
LuigiBlood 6/8/2018 8:00 AM
https://obscuritory.com/uncategorized/temporary-leave/
Phil "Shadsy" Salvador
Temporary leave | The Obscuritory
Hi everyone. In light of recent events, I'm taking a mental health break. I understand and appreciate the interest this topic received this week, but I went about it the wrong way and I regret possibly causing additional damage. I'm sorry, and I'm stepping away for a bit. I w...
Dezent 6/8/2018 8:00 AM
What's so funny about Volkswagen Group? (VAG)
8:00 AM
;P
LuigiBlood 6/8/2018 8:01 AM
tl;dr: It shouldn't have been uploaded in the first place
8:01 AM
at least not at that point
8:01 AM
so this isn't a vice thing
Neko May 6/8/2018 8:02 AM
giggles
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 8:17 AM
RIP that leak then.
8:17 AM
I still have the link but some games were removed from the upload since the initial article went viral
8:19 AM
I certainly would not put it above vice and kotaku to harrass "contact him for early access" to the full leak, which is still technically warez distribution, and he did it under his REAL name
8:20 AM
considering both were involved in fantranslator drama before and tried to demonize or compromise people who would not give them their real contact info or not disclose everything to them (am2r, fire emblem fates various retranslations, final fantasy type-0, etc)
8:21 AM
basically, feeling entitled to press access but still treating those groups as low-rate indie groups who don't deserve as much respect as real companies PR
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/8/2018 8:24 AM
i was about to ask if there were any games worth playing
8:24 AM
but realized its all in japanese so nevermind
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 8:24 AM
some would say "duh, that's what journalism is supposed to be" and "internet anonymity should die anyways" but these articles often contain doxx (real name, internet name, age, rough geographical location, job) and the legal stakes are real. (edited)
8:25 AM
it's mostly adventure games but hard to judge from just the 8 that were out
8:25 AM
maybe there are some platformers in there.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/8/2018 8:26 AM
only 8 got out of the 70?
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 8:26 AM
or something more palatable for illiterate peasants like us
8:26 AM
only 8 got uploaded on the archive folder he said he'd leak it on
8:26 AM
then he removed at least one
8:27 AM
(that's still accessible from a mega link in the initial video leak)
8:27 AM
and purged the entire article.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/8/2018 8:27 AM
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 8:27 AM
and now it's a "temporary leave".
eientei 6/8/2018 8:27 AM
So what games were leaked
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 8:28 AM
If the article's writer, and the yt writer, are two different people, there are chances.
8:28 AM
https://archive.org/details/@philsalv
8:28 AM
oh damn
8:28 AM
now he removed them all
eientei 6/8/2018 8:29 AM
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 8:30 AM
hopefully things change later.
rampy 6/8/2018 8:30 AM
I'm out of the loop
8:30 AM
Was something else leaked?
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 8:30 AM
the "mental health" comment implies some really nasty behind the scenes stuff
8:31 AM
a bunch of recent uploads with jp names, i guess those were the ones supposed to be the uploads.
8:32 AM
i still can't say i'm not ambivalent about the outcome
8:32 AM
the way the leak happened was
rampy 6/8/2018 8:32 AM
I like seeing stuff get leaked
8:32 AM
but not at the expense of the leaker
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 8:33 AM
1/ a jp collector who hoards things but still preserves them on a public FTP on the condition the forum members that have the link don't spread it too soon so that it doesn't lose market value 2/ a forum member who got the games, intends to leak it eventually, but wants to wait to protect himself and/or the reseller's interests
8:34 AM
3/ someone (2) entrusted him with the games so that they don't get lost in HDD crashes if on a single pc, or is just a friend, on the condition he does not leak it. Leaks it on yt anyways (just one game) (edited)
8:35 AM
4/ another one from the same forum OR same person as 3 wants to upload the full 76 games. already put 8 on the archive
8:37 AM
then (1) and/or (2) were upset, told him to stop, or felt betrayed, or someone else (press? corporate? EGG Project? companies owning the unreleased games like with Resident Evil N64?) harassed him
8:37 AM
so (4) removed everything and took a leave
8:37 AM
....... well, i can't say i don't empatize (edited)
8:39 AM
and reading about this situation it's like the stakes are x10 higher
8:40 AM
lots of other games, especially i-mode docomo japanese cell phone games, and undumped satellaview games , are in the same boat. Private FTP folders and all
Deleted User 6/8/2018 11:29 AM
hello
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/8/2018 11:30 AM
https://tcrf.net/Trifels_Mahou_Gakuen I found many uncompiled source code in Trifels Mahou Gakuen.
Trifels Mahou Gakuen
Deleted User 6/8/2018 11:30 AM
any use pokemon go?
Glisp 6/8/2018 11:56 AM
@divingkxt for whenever you get on http://www.trescomforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=11231 We've all discussed the inconsistency of the official walkthroughs vs. the final before but here's a list of notable differences. (edited)
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:16 PM
I think Trespasser's beta versions are a fine example of Beta versions that underwent massive changes
1:16 PM
And yes, technically build 96 is a beta
1:16 PM
It's less than a month from the development deadline and is nearing the final product but still has massive differences (edited)
1:17 PM
Of course, one could argue that since Trespasser was released in an unfinished state, Beta might be overshooting things (edited)
1:22 PM
(executive meddling is by far the worst fate for any game)
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:22 PM
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/cookie-s-bustle-c5y
Cookie's Bustle (Windows)
Remember Cookie's Bustle (Windows), an old video game from 1999? Download it and play again on MyAbandonware.
1:23 PM
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/harapeko-tsuki-to-hoshi-atsume-c61
Harapeko Tsuki To Hoshi Atsume (Windows)
Remember Harapeko Tsuki To Hoshi Atsume (Windows), an old video game from 1997? Download it and play again on MyAbandonware.
1:23 PM
at least those two were reuploaded elsewhere
1:23 PM
2 out of 76, doesn't sound too bad
1:23 PM
could have been 0
1:24 PM
aaanyways, you might want to download that while you can
1:27 PM
maybe there's more here
1:27 PM
https://www.myabandonware.com/browse/recent/
Recent abandonware games published - My Abandonware
List of the last games, or new game version, released on My Abandonware. Check twitter.com/myabandonware for live updates.
1:27 PM
a couple of super niche games called "Sexy Raper" for PC clearly made in Japan, dunno if they're part of the leak
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:29 PM
That one sounds kinky
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:30 PM
there's screenshoots for those two alone whereas there's like 5 other games without screenshots (including these two)
1:31 PM
and all of them have japanese names
1:31 PM
that might be it
1:32 PM
anyways i'm all for preservation but the sexy raper games can be preserved by someone else
1:32 PM
maybe someone competent like a D.J.
1:33 PM
let's not push the subject further. this is probably a christian server, children to think of, etc.
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:34 PM
Nah, it's not so much that
1:34 PM
it's because of other reasons
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:34 PM
i'm torn between downloading lost games
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:34 PM
we really need a channel for NSFW game research
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:34 PM
and taking the risk of getting unknown content on my PC
1:35 PM
oh the humanity.
1:35 PM
(i'll probably succumb to the temptation anyways)
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:35 PM
I mean, as unfortunate as it is to say, Hentai games are a thing too. And as far as I know the wiki's goal is to cover just about any game with unused content.
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:35 PM
tcrf has two nsfw tags
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:36 PM
Yeah TCRF does have one
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:36 PM
first one was for the one with hidden naughty content
1:36 PM
and second one was when they though the first one didn't properly convey how naughty it was
1:37 PM
(the murder/rape sexual fetish ones? a couple of them actually)
1:37 PM
i wonder if there are any of the pc-98 games with cut sexual content datamined on the wiki
1:38 PM
some of it could easily require the second (or even a third) tag
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:38 PM
also, how is phantasy Star on Master System Abandonware?
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:39 PM
someone is implying it's actually 4
1:39 PM
but even if it was legit
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:39 PM
Pretty sure Sega still owns and uses the IP for rereleases iirc
Hugette Hikari 6/8/2018 1:39 PM
isn't phantasy star 1 the one that they never port anywhere
1:39 PM
iirc they only do 2-4
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:39 PM
They did port it once actually
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:39 PM
basically, 1 was sold as a very limited release (1000 copies) on the genesis in 1994
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:39 PM
Sonic's Ultimate Genesis/Mega Drive Collection has it as an unlockable (edited)
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:40 PM
(not really, 1 was remade on ps2 as part of the sega ages series along with 2, and both are on vc)
1:40 PM
(with red cross insigna edited out with creative rom hacking)
1:41 PM
but, back to 1's elusive megadrive version
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:41 PM
The one in SUGC is the Master system version
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:41 PM
some say it's just the master system version flashed on a genesis cart
1:41 PM
not just a port but a 1:1 data replica
1:41 PM
and the differences are purely hardware
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:42 PM
By the looks of the images, this is probably the Mega Drive version
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:42 PM
but i have yet to see someone try and dump it anyways.
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:42 PM
Why is it labeled as master system?
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:42 PM
could have some typos / updated copyright dates / bugfixes,
1:42 PM
who knows.
1:43 PM
I can see also how it's just 4
1:43 PM
and the uploader got mistaken.
1:43 PM
PS4 doesn't actually have 4 in the jp title
1:43 PM
when browsing my no intro set in retroarch i frequently do the same mistake
1:44 PM
loading 4 jp instead of something else
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:44 PM
Okay, this is strange then
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:45 PM
just download it and try it with an emulator and we'll get to the bottom of this mystery
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:45 PM
Sometimes I think people just upload stuff on this site as abandonware even when it's not
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:45 PM
i'd do it if i wasn't already downloading sthg else
Glisp 6/8/2018 1:45 PM
Same
1:45 PM
the downloads on this site are fucking slow btw
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 1:46 PM
230kb/s for me
1:46 PM
not as bad as it could have been
1:46 PM
for similar sites.
1:47 PM
abandonware is basically a retro pc warez site now
1:47 PM
which is perfectly fine.
1:47 PM
it doesn't harm the actual developers.
1:48 PM
they don't seem to allow AAA games on it either.
1:48 PM
or console games.
1:49 PM
I would argue some actual abandonware (official pc version of resident evil 3) isn't actually there because this.
Puffy Puff 6/8/2018 2:05 PM
2:06 PM
https://gyazo.com/e4e2fdfa9843695bcdab1cacc6b99559
Gyazo
​
2:06 PM
a friend of mine found this odd sprite in the ROM of Pokemon Black and White 1
2:06 PM
was this already known about or is this new
2:07 PM
and if it's already known, what is it for? Like, it's clearly a test sprite, but for what?
Sunk 6/8/2018 2:07 PM
https://tcrf.net/images/0/0f/Bw_unknownface.png I think
Netscape Navigator 6/8/2018 2:08 PM
yes it's in the unused graphics subpage
Sunk 6/8/2018 2:08 PM
palette looks messed up though
Puffy Puff 6/8/2018 2:08 PM
yeah that seems odd
2:10 PM
also a bunch of gen 4 leftovers including Underground graphics though that doesnt surprise me
Sunk 6/8/2018 2:14 PM
that pikachu looks like something from undertale
2:15 PM
sort of
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 2:52 PM
that last remark isn't very flattering to undertale though
2:53 PM
but still true
🐮 6/8/2018 4:52 PM
Hey, I'm not sure if anyone remembers me talking about this before, but does anyone remember me talking about wanting to preserve a PS3 install of FFXIV?
4:52 PM
I still have a full, complete 14GB install of FFXIV (excluding Heavensward) on my PS3, and I wanted to attempt to back it up somewhere for preservation purposes
4:53 PM
But at the time, someone told me that it's probably not worth it or not worth the effort
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/8/2018 4:58 PM
you'd probably need a CFW for your PS3 in order to archive it for backup purposes
4:59 PM
though it probably isn't worth it unless the game can't really be found anymore
🐮 6/8/2018 5:00 PM
Well, yeah
5:00 PM
I have a PS3 with CFW for that very purpose
5:01 PM
It's how I got my backup of PlayStation Home after three plus years (edited)
5:01 PM
The PS3 version has been closed down completely and I don't think downloading new data is possible with it anymore
5:08 PM
Huh.
5:08 PM
FFXIV's data is split into several files of several GB.
5:09 PM
I think those are all the patches released for the PS3 version as seperate files.
5:09 PM
I know there aren't a lot of people around right now but I would greatly appreciate the input
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/8/2018 5:14 PM
well if you're wanting to store it somewhere, I'd suggest a cloud service like mega or mediafire
5:15 PM
either that or an external HDD or SSD
Smoke 6/8/2018 5:43 PM
Uninteresting crap: https://tcrf.net/Build-A-Bear:_Trick_Shot
Build-A-Bear: Trick Shot
🐮 6/8/2018 6:12 PM
Anyone at all?
6:13 PM
This is the last call as I can't really postpone it any further
leilei 6/8/2018 6:27 PM
okay digging unreal revisions
6:27 PM
apparently also, since 224 they've reduced the rate/depth on many of the new sounds
6:27 PM
the 220 sounds introduced are all mostly 44khz 16bit
6:27 PM
most got 22khz 8bit cuts in 224
6:28 PM
hopefully when i get around to it i don't have to upload the lower quality versions
6:29 PM
i'm still not over their oversight on the stinger sound replacement not getting the end shooting sound replaced ever
6:29 PM
literally an epic fail (edited)
GerbilSoft 6/8/2018 6:37 PM
Late but
6:37 PM
I remember hearing about the phantasy star MD thing
6:37 PM
and iirc it enabled SMS mode by grounding a certain pin - cart hardware was an SMS mapper and 8-bit mask rom
6:37 PM
Basically a combined PBC and SMS cart
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 7:36 PM
@🐮 check rpcs3's website for dumping instructions. The directories for updates and dlc should be the same too
7:36 PM
between the emulator and the real console.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/8/2018 7:47 PM
found an option for enabling debug in patapon 3... is it really that easy?
7:48 PM
if this option isnt broken ill be surprised
Meow 6/8/2018 8:07 PM
https://mega.nz/#F!fnYl0ByC!5tTTzN5DHsipyG_St2BxhA Skylanders Giants Alpha buildsfor your enjoyment people. Please check the readme, as only certain versions of Dolphin emu will run them.
MEGA
MEGA provides free cloud storage with convenient and powerful always-on privacy. Claim your free 50GB now
8:12 PM
https://imgur.com/a/OIomf5t few screenshots to go with it.
4
MLagaffe 6/8/2018 8:29 PM
niiice
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/8/2018 8:43 PM
whoa (edited)
Laenthor 6/8/2018 9:02 PM
wtf italian sonic sounds so smooth
9:02 PM
Why is the french one the worst?
JacobLenstar 6/8/2018 9:03 PM
Laenthor 6/8/2018 9:03 PM
Okay, german is maybe worse XD
9:03 PM
Sounds like an angsty teen voice
GerbilSoft 6/8/2018 9:09 PM
Oh it's out now
9:09 PM
Woo
9:10 PM
5.0-8045 or later, of course
9:10 PM
(should be implied)
9:10 PM
[possibly slightly earlier builds will work but why bother]
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/9/2018 12:59 AM
god i hate how theres like, literally no patapon prototypes on the market
eientei 6/9/2018 2:13 AM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 2:19 AM
radio Dxing this late at night is
2:21 AM
2:21 AM
can anyone identify this language?
divingkxt 6/9/2018 2:22 AM
English, but with a very Aussie accent.
Neko May 6/9/2018 2:23 AM
Mmmm, amateur radio
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 2:23 AM
these guys have been chatting outside of standard amateur bands
Neko May 6/9/2018 2:23 AM
Oh, fucking freebanders
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 2:23 AM
very high kHz
Neko May 6/9/2018 2:24 AM
Yeah, there's no band allocation there
2:24 AM
Only bands in the kHz are 2200m and 500m
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 2:26 AM
2:27 AM
w e w i think i found pirate radio station
2:27 AM
this was near a citizen band
divingkxt 6/9/2018 2:28 AM
@DeadlyDilemma "force down the lower band, err... normal control ... and uh, they're coming in from the..."
Neko May 6/9/2018 2:28 AM
Watch out for the shortwave bands in NA, they have literally nothing but hate-spewing bigots.
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 2:28 AM
i DX high freqs mostly. lookin for those sweet numbers stations
2:28 AM
what language DK?
2:32 AM
jammers out in force tonight lads
Neko May 6/9/2018 2:34 AM
shakes head
punk7890 6/9/2018 2:37 AM
PLAYYYYYYYYY
3
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 2:42 AM
oh dang
divingkxt 6/9/2018 2:45 AM
@DeadlyDilemma Off-topic
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 2:46 AM
oh i see that now woops
2:47 AM
Moved to #deleted-channel
Deleted User 6/9/2018 4:09 AM
Wow, ok.
eientei 6/9/2018 4:40 AM
@Deleted User Where's that from
Deleted User 6/9/2018 4:41 AM
CVG
4:41 AM
That one magazine.
leilei 6/9/2018 5:29 AM
thanks vice https://twitter.com/ItsTheShadsy/status/1005243897801576448
Phil Salvador (@ItsTheShadsy)
I believe strongly in open digital preservation, but there are times when releasing everything openly can endanger the relationships, confidentiality, and trust that make preservation possible at all. I believe now this is one of those cases
Deleted User 6/9/2018 6:24 AM
I got like 6 of those games backed up. Whatever got released.
eientei 6/9/2018 6:36 AM
There's a couple mirrored on IA
6:36 AM
https://archive.org/details/zeddas
Zeddas: Horror Tour 2 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Int...
If the first Horror Tour can be considered obscure, then the existence of its sequels are down right mythical, with little to no mention of them even on...
6:36 AM
https://archive.org/details/labyrinthe
Zeddas: Horror Tour 3 : Labyrinthe : Free Download, Borrow, and St...
ホラーツアー3 ラビラーント Zeddas: Horror Tour 3 : Labyrinthe Developer: Caravan Interactive Publisher: Caravan Interactive Designer:Yoshio...
Borman 6/9/2018 9:07 AM
This is a situation where game preservation ia just far more complicated than most people realize
9:08 AM
So many things at play (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 9:09 AM
sounds to me like a good reason to not bother
Hiccup 6/9/2018 9:11 AM
Deleted User 6/9/2018 9:26 AM
Hey TCRF! On the Wind Waker page (https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Wind_Waker), the "Build Date" section has a To-Do box mentioning about possible Japanese demos existing between October-December 2002. The November 2002 demo has just been dumped and didn't have the Wind Waker demo. Can someone edit the text to mention it doesn't exist?
9:27 AM
Here is discA on Hidden Palace: http://hiddenpalace.org/Interactive_Multi-Game_Demo_Disc_11/2002_-_discA_(demo)
2002 - discA (demo)
9:27 AM
Disc B on Hidden Palace: http://hiddenpalace.org/Interactive_Multi-Game_Demo_Disc_11/2002_-_discB_(demo)
2002 - discB (demo)
9:30 AM
Also, a Wind Waker demo build from February 2003 exists and could be added to the list: http://hiddenpalace.org/Category:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Wind_Waker_prototypes
Category:The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker prototypes
9:33 AM
It's worth mentioning that the November 2002 demo does have a video interview with Shigeru Miyamoto talking about Wind Waker, but the video will need to be translated to English.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 9:42 AM
i believe the feb 27 demo is this european one
9:42 AM
as for why it says 27 on hidden palace and not 28...
eientei 6/9/2018 9:45 AM
Time zones :Kappa:
Hiccup 6/9/2018 9:45 AM
@Deleted User did you dump any of these discs?
eientei 6/9/2018 9:48 AM
https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Twilight_Princess_Preview_Trailer#.22BETA.22_Version Why are we referring to this as "BETA" when it's horribly obvious that the "(BETA)" was hacked in?
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Preview Trailer
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 9:49 AM
was it?
Deleted User 6/9/2018 9:51 AM
Hey Hiccup, yes, I dumped it yesterday.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 9:51 AM
mustve cost a pretty penny
9:51 AM
huge thanks though
Deleted User 6/9/2018 9:52 AM
Hi eientei95, I wasn't sure how to use the HiddenPalace wiki, so I just chose Beta from the preset drop down. It needs to be edited to demo. My bad!
9:53 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT, Haha, it did! It was basically a gamble to see if it had Wind Waker. I think a Wind Waker demo exists for the December 2002 demo, but I've yet to see one surface.
9:54 AM
Also, @eientei, there might be other demos that were initially added to HiddenPalace improperly labeled as prototype since I was being a noob with the preset category drop down.
9:56 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT The Feb 2003 demo on HiddenPalace was from a Us interactive disc with the build date: 03/02/27 21:33:17. I'll try to check which interactive disc it was a part of, it's so close to the other demo it might not be worth mentioning.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 9:56 AM
oh
9:57 AM
OH YEAH i remember now
Deleted User 6/9/2018 10:00 AM
Ok, it was either US Interactive Multi-Game Demo Disc version 9 or 10
10:00 AM
Both 9 and 10 have Wind Waker, but each is a different build date
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:05 AM
also, fuck Vice
Nex 6/9/2018 10:05 AM
uh, so
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:06 AM
they are indeed a reason for this mess.
Nex 6/9/2018 10:06 AM
is that this collection that was supposed to be private
eientei 6/9/2018 10:06 AM
Yes.
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:07 AM
"private" was sensationalism
eientei 6/9/2018 10:08 AM
No, "private" was counting on people not acting like an arsehole
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:08 AM
the existence of the place where these were shared was supposed to be private, and these were supposed to trickle down
eientei 6/9/2018 10:08 AM
Not-so-subtle hinting here
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:08 AM
to the mainstream eventually (there's a reason they were uploaded, think of it)
10:09 AM
the sensationalism Vice caused when this went viral
10:09 AM
really affected everyone involved negatively
eientei 6/9/2018 10:09 AM
So you're just going to act entitled for the rest of your life?
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:09 AM
...me?
eientei 6/9/2018 10:10 AM
Yes you
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:10 AM
Elaborate
eientei 6/9/2018 10:11 AM
"Oh, I got these links. I'm just going to dump the links here instead of mirroring them in various places and directing people to them when they ask for it"
10:12 AM
But sure, let's all blame a site for their shitty journalistic practices instead of thinking "Hmm. The rest will probably come in another way, in a matter that won't negatively affect everyone in the process"
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:12 AM
oh, problem solved then. I removed the links.
10:13 AM
they're being uploaded to the archive anyways
10:13 AM
and they're public at this point
10:13 AM
" thanks "
eientei 6/9/2018 10:14 AM
Yeah, I wonder why they're public
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:14 AM
for the reminder.
10:14 AM
The leak happened days ago
10:14 AM
and they were circulating now privately and surfaced just now
10:15 AM
from that leak source
10:15 AM
are you trying to imply I'm somehow responsible for the leak?
eientei 6/9/2018 10:15 AM
Did anyone else see another person post those links here?
10:16 AM
Anyone at all?
10:16 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT did you?
10:16 AM
No?
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:16 AM
what's your problem?
10:16 AM
we were discussing this just fine yesterday
eientei 6/9/2018 10:16 AM
You'd have to be a little more specific
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:17 AM
and moderators were not alarmed by this.
10:17 AM
so what's the big deal?
Borman 6/9/2018 10:17 AM
Once it's out of the bag, its useless to pretend that you can put it back in
10:17 AM
Its unfortunate.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 10:17 AM
probably because theyre all asleep
Borman 6/9/2018 10:17 AM
Many of us have been there.
eientei 6/9/2018 10:17 AM
"Hey guys, I got these links to a bunch of files that were supposed to be private. I'll just dump them all here, hur"
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:18 AM
You should direct your ire at the original article author, archive, reddit, everyone who ever reposted the article and the links
10:18 AM
that were already uploaded days ago, just scattered
10:19 AM
and the original uploader drama unfolded there and then
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 10:19 AM
the whole thing was handled rather poorly
10:19 AM
this was just the cherry on the cake
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:19 AM
Unless you're angered by the blatant disregard for abandonware copyright?
10:21 AM
srsly though, i dont care one bit about what you think about it
10:21 AM
here are the links again.
10:21 AM
since there's clear demand for them, and they were almost lost before
eientei 6/9/2018 10:21 AM
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:21 AM
because someone didn't download them soon enough
10:22 AM
from the archive.
eientei 6/9/2018 10:22 AM
For the love of christ (edited)
Nex 6/9/2018 10:22 AM
1
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:28 AM
after thinking of it again, i removed the links. i wouldn't put it above you to report them to mega.
eientei 6/9/2018 10:29 AM
Honestly, I can't deal with your shit right now
MLagaffe 6/9/2018 10:29 AM
everyone else interested, look forward for an archive link soon.
eientei 6/9/2018 10:30 AM
@Borman Why is it always people like these that do this sort of thing
Borman 6/9/2018 10:31 AM
Don't ask me to understand people. Not my specialty.
eientei 6/9/2018 10:32 AM
Aw
10:33 AM
Maybe if we were dealing with people developer kits?
Borman 6/9/2018 10:33 AM
@Nex learned how to talk to people through the best game of all time, Skyrim, so I'll defer to him
1
Nex 6/9/2018 10:36 AM
play skyrim VR, switch, vanilla and special edition and you will get it
Spyro 2025 6/9/2018 11:36 AM
Is it possible to research U.B. Funkeys for unused stuff? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.B._Funkeys
U.B. Funkeys
U.B. Funkeys was a personal computer game and collectible figure set created by Mattel. It was created in 2007 until discontinuation of the toys in the United States in 2010. Play consisted of a personal computer game that worked together with collectible figures that represe...
Smoke 6/9/2018 12:30 PM
Yes
eientei 6/9/2018 12:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6z_VkPgGuc
Pedalpowerluigi
Monthly Nintendo Shopfront Demo November 2002 - Miyamoto Interview
divingkxt 6/9/2018 12:38 PM
@Spyro 2025 If someone backed up the game, then yes.
Smoke 6/9/2018 12:41 PM
I think I still have the install disc
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12:41 PM
Never played it before though
Smoke 6/9/2018 12:50 PM
I installed it a while ago, I also have the installation files on my PC.
Spyro 2025 6/9/2018 1:05 PM
How about this phone application?
1:06 PM
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_Dash_2:_Sonic_Boom
Sonic Dash 2: Sonic Boom
Sonic Dash 2: Sonic Boom is an endless runner platform video game developed by Hardlight Studio and published by Sega, exclusively for mobile devices, and is the sequel to Sonic Dash. Unlike its...
divingkxt 6/9/2018 1:06 PM
Yes.
1:07 PM
We already have Sonic Dash on the site already.
Spyro 2025 6/9/2018 1:07 PM
Sonic Dash 1? (edited)
1:12 PM
@divingkxt
1:13 PM
There IS no Sonic Dash 2 in the iOS/Android category of Sonic series (at the moment) (edited)
eientei 6/9/2018 1:16 PM
Then make a page for it
Spyro 2025 6/9/2018 1:16 PM
I DON'T have an account on TCRF, @eientei (edited)
Neko May 6/9/2018 1:18 PM
Then ask for one.
Dezent 6/9/2018 1:18 PM
So #account-requests, dude
Spyro 2025 6/9/2018 1:19 PM
I DON'T have even any equipment for video game research
1:20 PM
But, anyway, I ❤ the TCRF, a lot (edited)
divingkxt 6/9/2018 1:24 PM
Cheat Engine
eientei 6/9/2018 1:25 PM
Just unzip the apk
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 1:26 PM
what is unzip???
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Hiccup 6/9/2018 1:37 PM
blueskyrunner 6/9/2018 1:52 PM
Lako 6/9/2018 1:56 PM
Holy crap someone talked about U.B Funkeys
1:57 PM
U.B Funkeys is made with Flash, so you need to extract the SWF.
1:58 PM
There's several unused Funkeys and 2 whole unused sets. (edited)
2:00 PM
The DC set which was cancelled, and the Funkey Tools set.
2:05 PM
I'mma get to work on finding stuff in it.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:27 PM
hey, i've been looking around SM64 levels in an editor, specifically looking at the collision geometry and seeing if it differs from the visual geometry
2:27 PM
i've found a few discrepencies
divingkxt 6/9/2018 2:27 PM
Huh.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:28 PM
2
2
1
1
2:28 PM
such as the slide in Tall Tall Mountain
2:28 PM
having some kind of sign above the tunnel there
Lako 6/9/2018 2:28 PM
Woah.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:28 PM
well, it looks like it was a sign to me. maybe it said "danger" or something
Lako 6/9/2018 2:28 PM
Maybe a light
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:29 PM
2:29 PM
this is not so exciting, but the collision geometry of the mushrooms is straight! visually they are bent
2:30 PM
2:30 PM
probably anyone who has been on top of the castle has noticed this. but the back two spires are missing collision polygons completely
Hiccup 6/9/2018 2:30 PM
great catches (edited)
2:31 PM
definitely add these to the page
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:31 PM
i would if i could make an account
Hiccup 6/9/2018 2:31 PM
whats gone wrong?
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:31 PM
i thought account creation was halted
2:31 PM
i've got more stuff too. i can share them here or wait to get a wiki account
Hiccup 6/9/2018 2:32 PM
you can use account-requests channel
2:32 PM
on the left
2:32 PM
it is disabled for bit
2:33 PM
but you can ask an admin to manually add you
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:33 PM
i've done it
2:34 PM
i may as well show the other stuff now
Hiccup 6/9/2018 2:34 PM
actually, it seems any user can make an account
2:34 PM
if you want, you can trust me with your email and I'll make you one
2:34 PM
you can use a temp. email if you want
2:34 PM
and change it later
2:35 PM
Actually, it seems divingkatae has created you one.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:36 PM
yep, i've got one now. that was fast haha
Hiccup 6/9/2018 2:37 PM
its probably worth noting the collision type, if it is non-standard
2:38 PM
e.g. if the "sign" is pass through, rather than the standard solid collision type
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:39 PM
why would SM64 have pass-through collision polygons?
Hiccup 6/9/2018 2:39 PM
for decorative objects
2:40 PM
can't think of an example
2:40 PM
maybe there is no option for it
2:40 PM
the smiley faces and the stars on the mountain slide?
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:40 PM
SM64 has decorative polygons and collision polygons. decorative ones are pass-through
2:40 PM
yeah the smiley faces and stars are decorative polygons (edited)
Hiccup 6/9/2018 2:40 PM
okay
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:41 PM
from what i've seen, the collision polygons were made first, or generated from decorative polygons at some point
2:41 PM
then someone went and changed the decorations without updating the collision geometry. that's what i guess happened with the mushrooms
Hiccup 6/9/2018 2:42 PM
oh i see what you mean now
2:42 PM
the pass through stuff simply isn't in the collision model
2:42 PM
derp
Deleted User 6/9/2018 2:42 PM
yeah, exactly
Hiccup 6/9/2018 2:43 PM
indeed, there would be no point in having a collision face if you set it to a theoretical "do nothing" setting
divingkxt 6/9/2018 3:16 PM
@Deleted User Got a higher res picture?
3:16 PM
Also, gonna split this in two, probably.
3:16 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:Sm64-CollisionOddity_Castle1.png
File:Sm64-CollisionOddity Castle1.png
Deleted User 6/9/2018 3:17 PM
is it ok to wait until i've finished editing the page?
divingkxt 6/9/2018 3:17 PM
Sure.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 3:18 PM
i'll add all the findings then fix up my images after
Deleted User 6/9/2018 3:27 PM
alright i'm done editing. i can upload higher-res version of the images and add a px tag to them
divingkxt 6/9/2018 3:27 PM
Thank you.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 3:39 PM
alright, so there's my first TCRF contribution ever
3:40 PM
after many years of lurking
Deleted User 6/9/2018 4:04 PM
@Deleted User In some footage I saw there were signs telling you in which direction you should go
Deleted User 6/9/2018 5:03 PM
@Deleted User can you find the footage again?
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 5:05 PM
5:05 PM
took key from mario 64 article and made it into an emojii
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 5:05 PM
clever
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 5:06 PM
⬇ always looking for good emojiis from TCRF
Deleted User 6/9/2018 5:07 PM
apparently i need to upgrade to use such emojis? (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/9/2018 5:08 PM
yeah people without discord nitro can't use animated emotes
divingkxt 6/9/2018 5:08 PM
Not even as reactions.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 5:09 PM
that's commercialized IRC for you i guess
divingkxt 6/9/2018 5:10 PM
Although Discord isn't really IRC at all.
5:10 PM
In fact, someone had to make a bot to get IRC <-> Discord exchanges working at all.
5:11 PM
Two different people actually.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 5:22 PM
hehe
5:22 PM
IRC is for ppl born before 2000
5:22 PM
read that somewhere lol
Deleted User 6/9/2018 5:23 PM
i mean, of course they are probably not technologically similar. but they serve very similar purposes
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 5:25 PM
IRC is one of those things like email that was around from almost the beginning and wont die
5:25 PM
like who still uses Archie or Gopher
Dezent 6/9/2018 5:27 PM
To me IRC is only useful as our friend group used it as primary method of communication for a while and then there was Minecraft server chat <-> IRC bridges
divingkxt 6/9/2018 5:27 PM
IBM's Gopher is still up somehow.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 5:27 PM
hahaha
divingkxt 6/9/2018 5:27 PM
I know there's archives of that too.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 5:27 PM
DK, did you check out that Space Quest in Unreal thing I linked?
divingkxt 6/9/2018 5:29 PM
Yes.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 5:29 PM
i have an interest in Unreal 1998
5:30 PM
and anything which is 3D and from the 90s
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 5:33 PM
oh man
5:33 PM
such an interesting time to be around
5:33 PM
nothing was standardized
divingkxt 6/9/2018 5:33 PM
Glide, DirectX, OpenGL, Quickdraw 3D,
5:34 PM
and several vendor-exclusive APIs.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 5:34 PM
DK: what did you think of it? did you find all the deaths?
divingkxt 6/9/2018 5:35 PM
Oh, it's a playable game.
5:35 PM
Oh, my rig kind of stinks with UE4 games.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 5:35 PM
oh, UE4 haha
divingkxt 6/9/2018 5:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq024O5HNk8
Kjell Emanuelsson
Space Quest 3 3D
5:36 PM
LOL at the Wilhelm scream.
5:37 PM
That face though...
5:37 PM
Eww...
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 5:53 PM
lmao nice
5:53 PM
yes you gotta have nitro like me cause im cool A HUGE NERD (edited)
5:54 PM
i remember playing old DOS games when i was a kid and having to select the soundcard during installation
leilei 6/9/2018 5:55 PM
i remember the joys of dual floppies and no hard drive
Deleted User 6/9/2018 5:55 PM
dual-wielding floppies
leilei 6/9/2018 5:56 PM
also wtf wilco shouldnt walk like that
5:58 PM
also that metal cut should be way way more gushier
5:59 PM
how would they animate wilco putting the ladder into his pocket
5:59 PM
or the jockstrap sequence
divingkxt 6/9/2018 6:00 PM
Shrink it as he's putting it into his pocket.
Deleted User 6/9/2018 6:00 PM
lol
leilei 6/9/2018 6:01 PM
also i used to believe half-life was part of the space quest 3 universe
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 6:01 PM
FLOPPIES AKIMBO
6:02 PM
leilei
leilei 6/9/2018 6:02 PM
gotta have a floppy for booting and saving you know (edited)
DeadlyDilemma 6/9/2018 6:03 PM
hey guys. dont copy that floppy
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 6:07 PM
never
6:08 PM
need a new modem/router combo
6:08 PM
any suggestions
leilei 6/9/2018 6:09 PM
also nevermind the floppies part. how about trying to get through this
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 6:10 PM
i played those in CGA initially
6:10 PM
but damn
6:10 PM
is that Hercules?
leilei 6/9/2018 6:10 PM
CGA
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 6:10 PM
CGA was 4 colors
leilei 6/9/2018 6:10 PM
can also be 640x200x1 (edited)
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 6:10 PM
eeew
Deleted User 6/9/2018 6:11 PM
putting those bits to maximum use
leilei 6/9/2018 6:12 PM
it's meant for composite monitors yeah (edited)
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 6:12 PM
i want a composite MINOTAUR
Ketsuban 6/9/2018 6:13 PM
Composite Minotaur sounds like an Earthbound enemy.
6:13 PM
(also rad as hell I want one too)
Deleted User 6/9/2018 6:13 PM
it is less sophisticated than the composed minotaur
6:15 PM
sounds like an o c .
Huks 6/9/2018 6:31 PM
Composite Minotaur is a bit redundant since a minotaur is half man, half bull
6:31 PM
They're all composites
Revenant 6/9/2018 6:31 PM
a regular person riding a bull is a component minotaur
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 6:32 PM
well this turned into comedy gold
6:32 PM
all from a typo
blueskyrunner 6/9/2018 6:46 PM
I wish I had a minotaur D:
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 6:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXwopAoScvw
PtoPOnline
X-Men N64 | Unreleased 1999/2000
6:46 PM
looks sooo bad
Borman 6/9/2018 6:46 PM
Posted in the prototype chat. Its from over a year before the game came out, its not surprising.
6:47 PM
Or would have come out rather
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 6:47 PM
oh yea
6:48 PM
i think i was just reacting to N64 games in general
6:48 PM
that console does not age
6:48 PM
age well
Netscape Navigator 6/9/2018 6:51 PM
"64 megabytes should be enough for anyone" - shigeru miyamoto
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 6:51 PM
wish it had that much RAM
6:51 PM
more like 4/8
Hugette Hikari 6/9/2018 6:52 PM
why
Deleted User 6/9/2018 6:53 PM
pardon .
divingkxt 6/9/2018 6:59 PM
@Super Nintendo Chalmers Huh?
6:59 PM
I mean, there is the Expansion Pak, but not many people used it for their games.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 6:59 PM
its not ram that kills the N64
6:59 PM
the 4 kb texture cache
divingkxt 6/9/2018 7:00 PM
Ah yes, that cache is so small.
7:00 PM
Could be easily taken up by a 8bpp texture of a small size.
7:01 PM
Two 256-color textures at 16*16.
7:01 PM
That's why devs resorted to 16-color textures.
leilei 6/9/2018 7:01 PM
and lots of combine ops to simulate a higher res texture
7:02 PM
nice example are the explosions in goldeneye64
7:03 PM
they're just a gray smoke blob with a really really tiny fireball texture combined into it for color
escape209 6/9/2018 8:05 PM
wow
8:05 PM
what were they thinking making it so small
8:06 PM
The Sega Saturn had 512KB of texture cache
goat 6/9/2018 8:06 PM
"we have like three kilobytes of ram and pierce brosnan's face is half of it"
8:07 PM
"games look like ass and everyone seems okay with it"
escape209 6/9/2018 8:10 PM
discord pls
8:11 PM
ShiniiLevii 6/9/2018 8:11 PM
escape209 6/9/2018 8:11 PM
original was 2kb btw
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/9/2018 8:11 PM
Some games still make use of the expansion pak for various enhancements, but only 3 games actually required it
goat 6/9/2018 8:13 PM
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/9/2018 8:14 PM
No amount of extra ram could fix that Trainwreck
Meow 6/9/2018 8:48 PM
reposting this as seems nobody ever bothers to look https://tcrf.net/The_Muppets_On_The_Go! here's the source code and a few beta roms, https://mega.nz/#!6yQljIaL!cMSzamA3-lhnZ3iS2OjYRxtehtvB_0PzLjMa7LOIHXI source code zip archives pass is: kimpmt and this disc came from climax's archive
The Muppets On The Go!
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Meow 6/9/2018 9:02 PM
Tomb Raider 3 PC and PS1 source code coming up too
divingkxt 6/9/2018 9:03 PM
Oh SNAP.
Meow 6/9/2018 9:03 PM
https://www.obscuregamers.com/threads/tomb-raider-3-ps1-pc-source-code.24846/
PS1 - Tomb Raider 3 PS1 & PC Source Code
Oh boy, I was just linked something that would make a few people need to have tissues to hand. Special thank you to the anonymous donor. Here's the source code for Tomb Raider 3, it's source for both PS1 and PC. Make sure to archive this, I'm not sure of the legal standing...
divingkxt 6/9/2018 9:03 PM
Now that is surprising.
Meow 6/9/2018 9:03 PM
https://mega.nz/#!GzxGETTJ!yAll4g3BEiF10FqpoNmNRmo55oF5d-6qcxlkmJCoepE
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divingkxt 6/9/2018 9:03 PM
Granted, very gray area, but still quite neat.
Meow 6/9/2018 9:05 PM
might wanna tag people as I'm sure this might cause a few issues
9:05 PM
more people that grab the better
9:05 PM
@GameHistoryOrg coughs
leilei 6/9/2018 9:09 PM
hmm i wonder if there's ever been a 'shooter' proto in around from where that tr3 proto is found
9:09 PM
(shooter being the codename for Deus Ex)
9:11 PM
something in early/mid 1998 had to get it greenlit by eidos
divingkxt 6/9/2018 9:17 PM
divingkxt 6/9/2018 9:17 PM
One better - Pinned it.
Meow 6/9/2018 9:18 PM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/9/2018 9:20 PM
wasnt there also some TR2 stuff?
Meow 6/9/2018 9:20 PM
no clue, I just got linked this
ff 6/9/2018 9:21 PM
Hi
Simon The Digger 6/9/2018 9:22 PM
Haldo
Nex 6/9/2018 9:23 PM
hallo
blueskyrunner 6/9/2018 9:30 PM
☎ 6/9/2018 9:45 PM
There's more than just Tomb Raider 3 stuff in there.
9:45 PM
jasonps.log has this: `Script;- DESCRIPTION OPTIONS TITLE_FILES LEVEL LEVEL Script read successfully Gameflow script produced for;- Tomb Raider II PS Script. Internal Development Only - Jason (c) Core Design 1997.` (edited)
9:47 PM
9:47 PM
This too
Meow 6/9/2018 9:48 PM
ahh that explains, idk I literally got sent it and I reuploaded after asking the leak source
Deleted User 6/9/2018 9:49 PM
hi
☎ 6/9/2018 9:49 PM
hi
Meow 6/9/2018 9:49 PM
o.o
☎ 6/9/2018 9:50 PM
That's a bit weird
9:50 PM
haha
Meow 6/9/2018 9:50 PM
9:50 PM
9:50 PM
thistoo lol
9:51 PM
OutputDirectory=".\TombRai4" interesting
9:51 PM
tomb raider 4?
old acc! inactive 6/9/2018 9:52 PM
h
Meow 6/9/2018 9:53 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 9:55 PM
sup damien
☎ 6/9/2018 9:56 PM
Would this make a Duke Nukem Time to Kill port to PC possible?
Meow 6/9/2018 9:56 PM
nm just half awake
☎ 6/9/2018 9:56 PM
afaik it runs on the Tomb raider engine
Meow 6/9/2018 9:57 PM
possibly
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/9/2018 9:57 PM
thats rather odd
Meow 6/9/2018 10:28 PM
So it seems the TR3 source code was posted on Github originally.
10:29 PM
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/9/2018 10:43 PM
Someone should add this room to the page for Half-Life 2
10:44 PM
There's a little room with Alyx in the map d1_town_05
10:45 PM
I think it was meant to be used for this TV, but an animated texture is used instead of a camera
10:45 PM
(please excuse the mods)
blueskyrunner 6/9/2018 10:47 PM
Ah, yes, my favorite Half-Life 2 character: Bag of Sour Cream and Onion Lays
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/9/2018 10:49 PM
There's a camera and microphone meant for the TV
divingkxt 6/9/2018 10:50 PM
https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Proto:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_2_(Genesis)/Simon_Wai_Prototype&diff=prev&oldid=573909 What's the point of this edit?
Simon Wai Prototype&diff=prev&oldid=573909
DarthDubඞ 6/9/2018 11:04 PM
a par code isn't a difference nani the waht
Rena 6/9/2018 11:08 PM
Unless the code lets you access something unused
DarthDubඞ 6/9/2018 11:09 PM
no it was just adding a boss capsule to end the level
11:09 PM
for hidden palace
blueskyrunner 6/9/2018 11:09 PM
But why
Rena 6/9/2018 11:10 PM
Does that let you reach levels you otherwise can't?
blueskyrunner 6/9/2018 11:11 PM
Doesn't seem like it
DarthDubඞ 6/9/2018 11:11 PM
there's already codes to access unused levels
Hugette Hikari 6/9/2018 11:11 PM
^
11:11 PM
there's nothing there though
Rena 6/9/2018 11:12 PM
No idea then
Hugette Hikari 6/9/2018 11:12 PM
iirc the proto has one or two level slots that aren't in the level select that can only be accessed through hacking, but there's nothing of interest there
Neko May 6/9/2018 11:18 PM
Quite literally nothing, in fact
Hugette Hikari 6/9/2018 11:18 PM
i thought it was the same default level layout that the final uses, which is that unfinished emerald hill
11:18 PM
is it just blank like death egg and sky chase?
Neko May 6/9/2018 11:35 PM
I think they're just blank
11:35 PM
Maybe with stray garbage interpreted as collision
Deleted User 6/10/2018 12:39 AM
leilei 6/10/2018 1:18 AM
time to kill wasn't built on tomb raider
1:18 AM
that's a silly assumption
1:19 AM
it would play much better if it were tr-based tbh imo
divingkxt 6/10/2018 1:19 AM
https://jamchamb.github.io/2018/06/09/animal-crossing-developer-mode.html
Reverse engineering Animal Crossing’s developer mode
Last summer I began reverse engineering Animal Crossing for the GameCube to explore the possibility of creating mods for the game. I also wanted to document the process to create tutorials for people interested in ROM hacking and reverse engineering. In this post I explore th...
1:19 AM
So uh...
1:20 AM
In an interesting revelation, it turns out there's a button code to enable the debug mode in Animal Crossing.
Hugette Hikari 6/10/2018 1:20 AM
...oh my god
1:22 AM
but wait, what does it actually do? just a regular old debug mode with no additional features?
punk7890 6/10/2018 1:24 AM
neat
Revenant 6/10/2018 1:37 AM
i wish i had done writeups like that of SNES/PSX debug modes i used to find
1:37 AM
instead of just shitting out a tcrf article and never saving my notes
punk7890 6/10/2018 1:43 AM
yeah, kinda wish I'd done something like that for some of my neat debug findings
itsblah 6/10/2018 1:44 AM
just makes me kinda regret it never felt like I was formally taught how to take notes on things, just one of those skills the school system threw me into the water and expected me to float on
Meow 6/10/2018 1:44 AM
just like the mario one I posted the other day which people totally ignored
itsblah 6/10/2018 1:45 AM
I used to take apart a bunch of mostly non-game windows programs but I never saved my notes properly on them, heck, I had a whole ton on ragnarok online that I'm still regretting not documenting for myself
Meow 6/10/2018 1:45 AM
1:45 AM
and this
punk7890 6/10/2018 1:45 AM
also too much effort to write something that gigantic
itsblah 6/10/2018 1:45 AM
wat
punk7890 6/10/2018 1:45 AM
which is generally why I don't
Meow 6/10/2018 1:46 AM
or this
1:46 AM
ah
1:46 AM
discord blocked me lmfao
1:46 AM
1:46 AM
test?
1:46 AM
ah
1:46 AM
that worked
punk7890 6/10/2018 1:46 AM
Killer7? reminds me of some "KillerB" debug menu I found recently. Pretty sure the games are not linked in anyway though, heh
Meow 6/10/2018 1:47 AM
There's a crapton of debug stuff in the mario&sonic build I leaked awhile back
1:47 AM
and yeah turned out the leaked source code had a debug launcher
leilei 6/10/2018 1:47 AM
trailing characters will get your message deleted by the bot (edited)
Meow 6/10/2018 1:47 AM
literally just copy it into theretail iso and bam
DarthDubඞ 6/10/2018 1:50 AM
trailing?
Meow 6/10/2018 1:50 AM
the retail* sorry
DarthDubඞ 6/10/2018 1:50 AM
like multiples of the same symbol or something?
Meow 6/10/2018 1:50 AM
7am nearly lol
itsblah 6/10/2018 1:55 AM
also, on birdo, it was only tonight playing MP7 that I noticed birdo was even wearing a ring with a giant jewel
1:55 AM
makes me wonder when nintendo snuck that detail in
Neko May 6/10/2018 2:36 AM
Birdo, gaming's first trans character.
MysticSageJosh 6/10/2018 2:36 AM
More like..
2:36 AM
Birdo
2:36 AM
wtf is it
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/10/2018 2:39 AM
its a mario character
2:39 AM
they are all unknowable
Neko May 6/10/2018 2:39 AM
Actually Birdo is referred to as male at least once
MysticSageJosh 6/10/2018 2:39 AM
Yoshi
2:39 AM
the first..
2:39 AM
..wtf even is yoshi
itsblah 6/10/2018 2:40 AM
all I have to say is >tfw you will never ride a giant flying egg over the ocean all alone
MysticSageJosh 6/10/2018 2:40 AM
agender?
Neko May 6/10/2018 2:40 AM
Canonically
MysticSageJosh 6/10/2018 2:40 AM
what
Neko May 6/10/2018 2:40 AM
I can't remember where though
2:40 AM
I want to say the SMB2 manual
MysticSageJosh 6/10/2018 2:41 AM
oh, birdo's gender
2:41 AM
i thought we were talking about yoshi being..
2:41 AM
...okay i still don't know, is yoshi agender? (edited)
Neko May 6/10/2018 2:41 AM
It lays eggs
2:42 AM
For whatever that's worth
MysticSageJosh 6/10/2018 2:42 AM
Okay i think it's safe to say anything that isn't human in the mario universe besides bowser and... toadette.. i guess
2:42 AM
Do NOT have genders
Neko May 6/10/2018 2:43 AM
shrugs
2:43 AM
I would place it as "undefined" rather than "none"
MysticSageJosh 6/10/2018 2:44 AM
if we tried to figure out the gender of yoshi and birdo, our brains would explode
Neko May 6/10/2018 2:45 AM
Well, as I said, Birdo has canonically been referred to as male, but clearly presents as female
2:45 AM
@☎: Yeah, that's not funny.
☎ 6/10/2018 2:45 AM
I apologize. Do you want me to remove the message?
Neko May 6/10/2018 2:46 AM
Accepted. You may if you wish.
MysticSageJosh 6/10/2018 2:46 AM
"What is yoshi's gender"
2:46 AM
"YES"
Neko May 6/10/2018 2:46 AM
@MysticSageJosh: lol
MysticSageJosh 6/10/2018 2:47 AM
"What is birdo's gender" "NO"
2:47 AM
"Alright, well, this has been eye opening"
eientei 6/10/2018 2:49 AM
2:50 AM
Why does Discord change the white to pink...
Revenant 6/10/2018 2:56 AM
what do you mean
2:56 AM
oh in the switch logo? i guess i kind of see it
divingkxt 6/10/2018 2:57 AM
Because it's so red.
2:58 AM
It bleeds into the white because many video encodings don't handle reds (especially pure or near-pure reds) well.
Revenant 6/10/2018 2:58 AM
yeah i assume it happened when downscaling it
3:01 AM
downloading the original file and playing it back looks fine
eientei 6/10/2018 3:15 AM
Converted from the original mov file Nintendo distributes for companies to put in ads
Deleted User 6/10/2018 3:50 AM
Happen to be willing to post the source please @eientei ?
3:52 AM
https://twitter.com/jamchamb_/status/1005562666168053760 Neat
James Chambers (@jamchamb_)
A write up for finding the developer mode cheat combo in Animal Crossing for GameCube https://t.co/RlqUGbPFu1
eientei 6/10/2018 4:00 AM
@Deleted User For what
Deleted User 6/10/2018 4:03 AM
The Switch webm, @eientei
eientei 6/10/2018 4:03 AM
What switch webm
Deleted User 6/10/2018 4:04 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386543982399979534/455262306637578252/output.webm
4:04 AM
That one
eientei 6/10/2018 4:04 AM
You linked it, not me (edited)
Deleted User 6/10/2018 4:04 AM
I... what?
eientei 6/10/2018 4:04 AM
Just before
4:05 AM
You linked it, I didn't
Deleted User 6/10/2018 4:05 AM
But I got that link from the file you uploaded earlier
eientei 6/10/2018 4:06 AM
So you have your link
4:06 AM
Why do you need a source
Deleted User 6/10/2018 4:06 AM
Because I wanted the original file, if possible, since I thought it would be cool to have
eientei 6/10/2018 4:07 AM
I just ripped it from a Switch game's trailer
Deleted User 6/10/2018 4:07 AM
Ah okay
leilei 6/10/2018 4:20 AM
part of me wants to see that replace the start of this trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnQU990Hdeg (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/10/2018 6:14 AM
6:14 AM
I found debug viewer(?) in Love Hina Ai wa kotoba no Naka ni.
Meow 6/10/2018 6:15 AM
https://mega.nz/#!PzJ30QJL!9LezARqMi3_H2omIDk1oLVuNjiDWx_JSWeIJjQzKMWs repost
MEGA
MEGA provides free cloud storage with convenient and powerful always-on privacy. Claim your free 50GB now
Hiccup 6/10/2018 7:42 AM
@GlitterBerri#3018 I've checked all EAD N64/N64DD games for "START" (in a key combo) and "THREAD" (in a debug display). The following have one or both: Yoshi's Story, Pokémon Stadium, Pokémon Stadium 2, Mario Artist: Polygon Studio, Mario Artist: Paint Studio, Mario Artist: Talent Studio, Mario Artist - Communication Kit
7:42 AM
I only checked one version of each game.
7:42 AM
(usually Japan)
eientei 6/10/2018 7:59 AM
@GlitterBerri ^
GlitterBerri 6/10/2018 8:00 AM
Oh, very cool
8:00 AM
@Hiccup
8:00 AM
You should maybe put that on the "to investigate" page of TCRF if you don't feel like looking into it yourself :)
Hiccup 6/10/2018 8:13 AM
I will.
☎ 6/10/2018 8:14 AM
What's the stuff Demon posted recently?
8:14 AM
He "reposted" TR 4 and 5 stuff but the original download link he sent much earlier was TR3 stuff. (edited)
8:18 AM
Is this a new Tr leak then?
Hiccup 6/10/2018 8:20 AM
Ask Demon, I guess.
☎ 6/10/2018 8:20 AM
Tried, he's offline and he does not accept messages.
8:20 AM
I'm just curious because nobody discussed whatever he posted
Hiccup 6/10/2018 8:20 AM
@Meow
8:20 AM
☎ 6/10/2018 8:20 AM
o right
Meow 6/10/2018 8:21 AM
yeah
☎ 6/10/2018 8:21 AM
What's the TR4 and 5 thing you posted just now?
Meow 6/10/2018 8:21 AM
someone leaked it a few months back and the link was sent to me last night
8:21 AM
That's an old leak from 2013 or something
8:21 AM
has some dev tools in
☎ 6/10/2018 8:21 AM
Oh, I see. I thought it was another fresh source code leak
Meow 6/10/2018 8:25 AM
nah really old one I didn't even know about it till a friend sent it
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メタトンEX 6/10/2018 8:26 AM
https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_64_(Nintendo_64)#Tall_Tall_Mountain https://i.imgur.com/RhZwINe.png
Super Mario 64 (Nintendo 64)
eientei 6/10/2018 8:27 AM
>however because the network has now long-since shut down, it is now restricted to the title screen menus. Har
8:31 AM
http://hiddenpalace.org/Jak_X:_Combat_Racing_(Jun_22,_2005_prototype) Why is this credited to "LarryLemmy" when it was emuLOAD who dumped it properly for redump's database
Jak X: Combat Racing (Jun 22, 2005 prototype)
8:32 AM
http://redump.org/disc/51664/
redump.org • Jak X
Redump - disc images information
Cuyler 6/10/2018 8:39 AM
Found a debug player select menu in Animal Crossing (GameCube)
8:39 AM
https://puu.sh/ACxe0/3aef7acc3a.mp4
3
1
Andreelikes 6/10/2018 8:58 AM
Can you try the Japanese version?
Lako 6/10/2018 8:58 AM
Why skulls
9:00 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBAND
XBAND
XBAND (stylized as XB∀ND) was one of the first online console gaming networks, and was available for Super NES and Genesis systems. It was produced by Catapult Entertainment, a Cupertino, California-based software company. It is the only modem released in America to have be...
9:00 AM
This.
9:00 AM
is innovative
9:01 AM
And it is not even unlicensed
Cuyler 6/10/2018 9:25 AM
This is what it is translated
9:25 AM
9:26 AM
I pulled the japanese text from the game and translated it accordingly
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 9:29 AM
owo
Lako 6/10/2018 9:38 AM
https://youtu.be/8lhb9VUzaJc
Smoke
Skate 2 - 1119.flv
9:38 AM
this is it for one. Really.
9:39 AM
Nothing but this.
eientei 6/10/2018 9:54 AM
https://youtu.be/fNULvfT08-Q?t=1586 Huh, Japanese wrestler mask in Metal Gear Online
media.ccc.de
Joseph Tartaro, Matthew Halchyshak: Cyber Necromancy
Δndrew P. 6/10/2018 9:58 AM
I could never get Animal Crossing dumped correctly (on my Wii). It always says something about the sectors being out of range.
eientei 6/10/2018 10:04 AM
>R.F. This is probably my 5th tcrf account. I'm always forgetting my passwords. Sigh.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 10:04 AM
Cuyler 6/10/2018 10:27 AM
Also found a debug save menu in Animal Crossing (GameCube) https://puu.sh/ACzG4/8ebd4b0f70.png https://puu.sh/ACzDH/ff0e21ffaa.mp4
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Hiccup 6/10/2018 10:30 AM
will you be posting these to TCRF eventually?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/10/2018 10:36 AM
when someone makes the account for him
Hiccup 6/10/2018 10:37 AM
is it okay for non-admins to do that?
10:38 AM
@Cuyler do you want an account?
Cuyler 6/10/2018 10:39 AM
yes
10:39 AM
I did request one in #account-requests
Hiccup 6/10/2018 11:07 AM
whats the japanese term(s) for "events" like E3, Space World etc?
ShiniiLevii 6/10/2018 11:09 AM
For Spaceworld, it's Shoshinkai iirc
eientei 6/10/2018 11:09 AM
Shoshinkai was the previous name for Space World
ShiniiLevii 6/10/2018 11:09 AM
ah
Hiccup 6/10/2018 11:09 AM
I mean in general
11:09 AM
events of that sort
ShiniiLevii 6/10/2018 11:10 AM
E3 is just E3
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/10/2018 11:11 AM
ESan
ShiniiLevii 6/10/2018 11:11 AM
seinfeld intro song plays
Hiccup 6/10/2018 11:12 AM
nintendo website uses "イベント"
eientei 6/10/2018 11:12 AM
展示会?
Rena 6/10/2018 11:14 AM
Setting version to 0x99 also enables debug mode in Wind Waker doesn't it
11:14 AM
Should look for a key combo there, and try setting version in other games
1
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/10/2018 11:15 AM
ditto for TP
11:15 AM
though i dont think it was 99 specifically
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/10/2018 11:34 AM
11:38 AM
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 11:42 AM
Screenshots show Duster and Kumatora were still in the game as well
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 11:46 AM
cartridges are super fast
11:47 AM
on 1980-1990 era…
11:47 AM
direct memmap
☎ 6/10/2018 11:47 AM
Some EB64 music appears in Mother 3 too.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/10/2018 11:49 AM
11:50 AM
despite EGM explaining this, im surprised people to this day dont understand
Pasta937 6/10/2018 11:51 AM
Can someone delete the previous not needed Monkey Ball screenshots?
eientei 6/10/2018 11:51 AM
Just tag them with {{delete}}
Pasta937 6/10/2018 11:51 AM
They are.
eientei 6/10/2018 11:51 AM
Then they'll be deleted in time
Pasta937 6/10/2018 11:52 AM
Ok
LuigiBlood 6/10/2018 12:30 PM
FlashRom in Animal Crossing GC
12:30 PM
That's definitely a N64 leftover
Wumbo 6/10/2018 12:39 PM
If you could obtain a prototype of a video game of your choice, what would it be?
Hugette Hikari 6/10/2018 12:39 PM
e3 demo of donkey kong 64 or an early build of banjo kazooie
Dalekcraft 6/10/2018 12:39 PM
An actual demo cartridge for Gold
Wumbo 6/10/2018 12:40 PM
I'd kill for a NSMB prototype
12:40 PM
Or even a SM64 prototype
ShiniiLevii 6/10/2018 12:40 PM
Sonic 1 Prototype (1990)
Deleted User 6/10/2018 12:40 PM
the sonic prototype with the weird welcome sign at the start
Wumbo 6/10/2018 12:40 PM
The Sonic 1 TGS Build would be very interesting to see (edited)
Netscape Navigator 6/10/2018 12:41 PM
capcom fighting all-stars
12:41 PM
the build before they cancelled it (edited)
12:42 PM
as an original 3D fighting game
Wumbo 6/10/2018 12:42 PM
I don't know which I'd want more, though, a SM64 or NSMB prototype Both have very interesting developments with a lot of cut features
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 12:42 PM
Mother 3 on N64 for me
Deleted User 6/10/2018 12:43 PM
i love those old SM64 videos with the different colour palettes
Wumbo 6/10/2018 12:44 PM
Unfortunately, it would be very, very unlikely for a prototype of a Nintendo game (especially a Mario game) to be found and dumped onto the internet
Borman 6/10/2018 12:44 PM
True Fantasy Live Online with server software
Wumbo 6/10/2018 12:45 PM
And with all the stingy private collectors in the world
Deleted User 6/10/2018 12:45 PM
@Wumbo the OoT prototype was leaked by some third party IIRC
12:45 PM
so we'd need a similar situation
12:45 PM
ah not prototype. i mean debug build
Wumbo 6/10/2018 12:46 PM
True, and there's also the Super Mario Bros. 2 prototype that was dumped
12:46 PM
The US version
Deleted User 6/10/2018 12:46 PM
another way this stuff gets obtained is via plain stealing from shows
Borman 6/10/2018 12:47 PM
Rarely though.
Deleted User 6/10/2018 12:47 PM
not that i can imagine how that actually happens though
Borman 6/10/2018 12:47 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2004/05/14/e3-2004-metal-gear-solid-3-code-stolen
E3 2004: Metal Gear Solid 3 Code Stolen - IGN
As reported today on Gamesradar, two unidentified people attending E3 yesterday made off with the demo code for Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater.
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 12:47 PM
Wasn't True Fantasy Online actually finished? Or do we not know for sure?
Wumbo 6/10/2018 12:47 PM
I'm pretty sure that was the case for the Sonic 2 Simon Wai Prototype?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/10/2018 12:48 PM
>According to reports, the two thieves, believed to be young men between 19-20 years old, cracked the case protecting the demo PS2 and leaned against the unit until they were able to eject the disc. They then made a mad dash for the doors.
Borman 6/10/2018 12:48 PM
Word on the street was TFLO was far from finished.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/10/2018 12:48 PM
i wish someone couldve done this to the hundreds of other games
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 12:48 PM
Hmmm
12:48 PM
I was under the impression that the major reason the game got canned was because of fricition with Microsoft, wasn't it?
12:48 PM
Something about the voice chat?
Deleted User 6/10/2018 12:49 PM
wow so people literally just take the discs out of the consoles? haha
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/10/2018 12:49 PM
my question is how did no one notice
Borman 6/10/2018 12:49 PM
Voice chat was a big one, but I had heard it just wasnt coming together
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 12:49 PM
Not exactly Ocean's Eleven, huh?
Deleted User 6/10/2018 12:49 PM
lol
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 12:50 PM
I like to think that they recycled a lot of the work and concepts of TFO into White Knight Chronicles
Borman 6/10/2018 12:50 PM
https://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/breach-game-code-theft-at-pax-east-ends-in-arrest/
'Breach' game code theft at PAX East ends in arrest [update]
[Photo: Kevin Kelly] digg_url = 'http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/30/breach-game-code-theft-at-pax-east-ends-in-arrest/'; An attempted theft of Atomic Games' Br...
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 12:51 PM
Now if only White Knight Chronicles was actually good...
Deleted User 6/10/2018 12:52 PM
imagines a Terminator-style scenario of someone going back in time to steal a cartridge from Spaceworld '99 (edited)
12:57 PM
how likely is it that Nintendo etc. still have the code from pre-release games from the 90s?
Netscape Navigator 6/10/2018 12:58 PM
it's difficult to say if they have the code for the final builds of those games
Borman 6/10/2018 1:00 PM
Nintendo has held onto a lot of stuff that many companies didnt anyway
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 1:04 PM
Oh, actually, another game I'd love to see leak? FFIV on NES
1:04 PM
I don't remember where I read this, but apparently one of the major players at Square said in an interview that FFIV on NES was way further along in development then they'd led the public to believe back in the day
Nex 6/10/2018 1:04 PM
did that even get beyond the concept
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 1:04 PM
It did!
1:05 PM
I need to find the source, I think it was on Unseen or something like that
Hugette Hikari 6/10/2018 1:05 PM
i'm assuming ff7 on the n64 didn't get past the concept though
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 1:05 PM
But assuming I'm remembering right, they did indeed have a lot of work done on it
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/10/2018 1:05 PM
nah fuck that
1:05 PM
FF3 on wonderswan color
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 1:05 PM
Ooh, that'd be a good one too
1:05 PM
Though I imagine it'd basically be the DS version just in 2D with one screen, right?
1:06 PM
Would still be interesting, though
1:07 PM
Actually, one of my favorite baseless theories about Final Fantasy is that V is essentially an up-port of what IV would've been if it were on the NES
1:07 PM
Compared to IV, V was a bit of a step back in certain ways, it brought back the Job system for III and, in my opinion, was a lot closer in tone to III than IV was
1:08 PM
So while I have no proof and baseless conjecture, I like to think that Square wanted to make a splash on the SFC with IV, so they scrapped everything and made the IV we got instead, but still had a lot of work done on NES IV they didn't want to waste, so they essentially remade that version for the SNES and released it as V (edited)
ℌ𝔬𝔩𝔩𝔶 𝔎𝔲𝔧𝔬 6/10/2018 2:05 PM
guys can u add baldi's basics to the site
Hiccup 6/10/2018 2:10 PM
what do you mean?
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 2:10 PM
Some free horror game I think?
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/10/2018 2:17 PM
School fnaf
Huks 6/10/2018 2:24 PM
It's like a parody of those shitty creepypasta games I think
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 2:24 PM
Huh, it's apparently a weird parody of Sonic's Schoolhouse
Sunk 6/10/2018 2:25 PM
the fact sonic's schoolhouse came into existence is already scary enough
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 2:25 PM
Heh
2:26 PM
Also when you get a game over a fidget spinner appears on screen
2:26 PM
Uh
Sunk 6/10/2018 2:27 PM
I wonder if any child back then had actually enjoyed playing it. nowadays the only reason people know about it is because of memes
blueskyrunner 6/10/2018 2:28 PM
...I did >_>
2:28 PM
I played Sonic's Schoolhouse a lot as a kid
Sunk 6/10/2018 2:35 PM
I honestly would have been terrified by all the distorted avatars if I had to play it as a kid
LarryLemmy 6/10/2018 4:33 PM
The only Sonic game I played as a kid was one of those Tiger LCDs
ShiniiLevii 6/10/2018 4:33 PM
you mean that one based off Sonic 3D Blast?
LarryLemmy 6/10/2018 4:34 PM
No, it was called Sonic the Hedgehog 2
ShiniiLevii 6/10/2018 4:35 PM
ah
4:35 PM
the only Sonic Tiger LCD I ever saw was a Sonic 3D Blast one
Sunk 6/10/2018 4:36 PM
was it from an avgn review?
ShiniiLevii 6/10/2018 4:37 PM
yes
Laenthor 6/10/2018 5:43 PM
I had something like that. It was from a Sonic heroes promotional thing at McDonald's. The one I had was Shadow and Gamma hockey.
5:43 PM
I think I still have it somewhere but it most likely doesn't have any batteries.
Δndrew P. 6/10/2018 7:12 PM
Flashbacks to the pakistan mcdonalds commercial of sonic toys
divingkxt 6/10/2018 7:14 PM
There's also Sonic racing... on LCD.
7:15 PM
Man, Tiger Electronics really pumped out LCD shit.
7:15 PM
Oh yeah, and there's that LCD Pokemon pinball game.
7:16 PM
"Amiga's Blitter is very fast if you use it directly !!!"
Deleted User 6/10/2018 7:34 PM
rogue and amy tennis
tape 6/10/2018 7:42 PM
cream butt flower cat
punk7890 6/10/2018 7:52 PM
So I had a look at Doubutsu no Mori for N64, and found out button inputs that enable debug mode. It's exactly the same as this: https://tcrf.net/Doubutsu_no_Mori#Debug_Displays however, you need to press those button combinations on controller 2.
Doubutsu no Mori
7:53 PM
not sure if it enables level select, it probably should
Neko May 6/10/2018 8:06 PM
Nintendo: You MUST erase any and all debug features and/or crash handlers or your game will be rejected. Also Nintendo: Own games are full of debug features and crash handlers. (edited)
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:07 PM
...why
8:07 PM
Also when was this...?
Neko May 6/10/2018 8:07 PM
Always
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:07 PM
um
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:07 PM
They threatened to reject The New Tetris because of a crash that was hard to track down.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:07 PM
8:07 PM
THEN HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:08 PM
Is that The Conduit?
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:08 PM
Yes
8:08 PM
...wait do you actually know what the Conduit is
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:08 PM
Kind of, yes.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:08 PM
holy something I'm not the only one (edited)
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:08 PM
I remember people hacking into it back in the X-Cult days.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:08 PM
...the what days?
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:08 PM
Do you know what X-Cult was?
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:09 PM
No...
8:09 PM
:c
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:09 PM
Do you know what Sonic Cult was?
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:09 PM
...also no :c
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:10 PM
OK, then. As for the Conduit, I recall it being a trivial ini file change.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:10 PM
Yeah, pretty much
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:10 PM
That's rather common in games in actually.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:10 PM
oh
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:10 PM
All they have to do to ship it is to turn it off.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:10 PM
oh that explains it
8:10 PM
...also I find it almost funny how you practically didn't even need to hack the first game to cheat like hell...and also kinda sad... :/ (edited)
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:11 PM
Lazy, but it works and doubles as a way to test between release candidates and debug copies.
Borman 6/10/2018 8:12 PM
Did anyone verify it was actually outputting debug messages to a remote console though?
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:13 PM
wait...what
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:13 PM
Basically, one can attach a dev console to a computer to get read-outs from the game.
8:13 PM
These read-outs are for determining what's going on when the game's running.
Borman 6/10/2018 8:14 PM
Yeah, basically the debug menu is really only a small function of a debug build usually
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:14 PM
For instance, https://tcrf.net/Scorched_Earth#Version_1.1_2
Scorched Earth
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:14 PM
...no I know what debug messages are, I was just surprised to think that the Conduit might still have secrets of the sort waiting to be found .-.
8:14 PM
...wait, was that even about the Conduit specifically, or...? (edited)
Borman 6/10/2018 8:15 PM
Well it was more a response to making it easier to test RC and debug copies. Just saying that there could be a difference still
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:15 PM
Oh
Borman 6/10/2018 8:15 PM
That said, it could still have secrets
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:16 PM
The Conduit is on the CTE page.
8:16 PM
(CTE = Context to Expand)
8:16 PM
And yes, there are test maps that have been found.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:16 PM
Multiple?
Borman 6/10/2018 8:16 PM
Considering people find stuff still in games from decades ago that are under 4MB, I imagine there is plenty to find in the Conduit
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:17 PM
I've seen little to no research anywhere into the matter, bar a single revelation of the remains of a couple of unused weapons in the second game (edited)
8:17 PM
(two of which were used in the first)
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:18 PM
The Conduit isn't terribly well-known here, so that's part of the reason.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:18 PM
It isn't terribly well-known anywhere
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:19 PM
True.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:19 PM
I've tried to do some digging. No luck. Maybe I'll take another shot at it someday...
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:20 PM
Have you used GCRebuilder?
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:20 PM
Never heard of it
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:22 PM
https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/619/
GCRebuilder
GameCube Rebuilder a tool for editing Nintendo GameCube images. Main features:

- extact (expor

8:22 PM
>GameCube Rebuilder a tool for editing Nintendo GameCube images.
8:23 PM
May also work on Wii games.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:23 PM
...just curious...what's better about this than, say, WiiScrubber, or better still, Riivolution?
8:24 PM
(or that Dolphin trick for loading files that aren't even built into an ISO? )
divingkxt 6/10/2018 8:24 PM
Oh, never heard of those.
Splitwirez 6/10/2018 8:24 PM
Oh
8:24 PM
...well that explains that :P
8:25 PM
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Riivolution
Riivolution
allytogood 6/10/2018 8:35 PM
I'm looking for a source that talks about how the designers of the adult temples in Ocarina of Time were Mario Club, and that this is why those dungeons are more action-focused rather than puzzle-focused. I just went through every Ocarina of Time Iwata Asks including the Special with Miyamoto for the 3DS launch. It's not in those. It must be some other site's exclusive feature on them.
8:40 PM
If anyone can help me track it down
8:40 PM
I'd greatly appreciate it.
Chorus Line 6/10/2018 9:11 PM
I wonder if any hacker back in the day ever called the numbers in those hidden dev messages from Amiga/Commodore/Etc and got a job from it.
9:11 PM
You know, the messages that are like "if you know assembly call here!" or w/e
9:12 PM
Something I've always wondered. (edited)
divingkxt 6/10/2018 9:12 PM
Probably not many.
9:12 PM
They probably did contact the numbers, but were likely dropped.
Borman 6/10/2018 9:14 PM
I wonder if any pirates ever changed the phone number to something more...explicit.
divingkxt 6/10/2018 9:18 PM
Tough to say.
9:18 PM
We're talking 30 year old phone numbers from Europe.
Borman 6/10/2018 9:19 PM
Yeah
9:19 PM
Would have to be a story from the time
divingkxt 6/10/2018 9:19 PM
It's possible, but considering the preservation of old computer games is going slow, don't hold your breath.
Borman 6/10/2018 9:19 PM
Just something I never thought about
divingkxt 6/10/2018 9:50 PM
Long story short - A lot of computers of ancient computer games are cracks.
9:50 PM
Pretty much every platform released is affected.
9:50 PM
Some worse than others obviously.
9:50 PM
ZX Spectrum least affected, weirdly.
cuba200611 6/10/2018 10:23 PM
Yeah, since tapes are pretty easy to copy and dump, unlike floppies... (edited)
10:24 PM
Hence why there's little cracked software for the Spectrum...
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 10:30 PM
X-Copy on amiga
10:30 PM
you know
10:31 PM
nowadays you can use dd
cuba200611 6/10/2018 10:39 PM
But what about those floppies with them copy protection schemes?
Neko May 6/10/2018 10:49 PM
Tricky schemes with deliberately bad sectors and such have to be preserved with a device that records flux transitions.
10:50 PM
Unfortunately there are no such devices available (KryoFlux has licensing which forbids practically any use of the images it generates, and is therefore not useful for preservation.)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 10:52 PM
yeah those floppies sucks
10:52 PM
on those "crackers" mainly targetted to circumvent that
Neko May 6/10/2018 10:54 PM
Yeah, cracks are made to circumvent any form of copy protection
10:54 PM
Including physical forms like the bad/weak sector type
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 10:54 PM
disk-based is mostly the one
10:55 PM
those "DRM" (offdisk) is easy…
Neko May 6/10/2018 10:55 PM
Nah, there are cracks for codebook/codesheet protections, too
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 10:55 PM
yea
10:55 PM
offdisk prot
Borman 6/10/2018 10:56 PM
Applesauce is going to be great
Neko May 6/10/2018 10:56 PM
Offdisk was just as annying as ondisk, if not moreso.
10:57 PM
Having to look up a specific word in the manual
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 10:57 PM
Tru
10:57 PM
time to hook!
Neko May 6/10/2018 10:57 PM
Turn the codewheel to X Y Z
10:57 PM
etc
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 10:57 PM
why not put jmp :p
10:58 PM
(bad idea)
Neko May 6/10/2018 10:58 PM
Just NOP it out
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 10:58 PM
sliiiide
Neko May 6/10/2018 10:58 PM
Or yeah, JMP to the pass condition
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 10:58 PM
I like jmp better
Neko May 6/10/2018 10:59 PM
Usually in the crack it would still aak for the word/whatever
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 10:59 PM
press enter works
Neko May 6/10/2018 10:59 PM
But you could enter anything and it would pass
10:59 PM
Right
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 11:00 PM
I was recently tried to crack pacjage format on XignCode (edited)
11:00 PM
which is unknown
11:00 PM
XdNa,Loma,TARA
11:01 PM
which is basically no document
Neko May 6/10/2018 11:01 PM
Hm.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 11:02 PM
properietary archive
11:02 PM
I mean there IS depacker
11:02 PM
(inside xigncode itself)
11:02 PM
no dbgsymbol disasm is pain
11:03 PM
I mean lomx archive
Neko May 6/10/2018 11:05 PM
nods
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 11:06 PM
idk what to look for… only I understand is, there is no filename table. (maybe entire archive is encrypted?)
Neko May 6/10/2018 11:08 PM
It's entirely possible
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/10/2018 11:11 PM
yeah
11:11 PM
lemme fiddle with IDA
11:11 PM
bbl
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 12:11 AM
Gamers,
cuba200611 6/11/2018 12:12 AM
Yeah, off-disk copy protection tended to be eaiser to crack than on-disk copy protection...
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 12:13 AM
Anyways, I'm not too proficient with roms or anything, but I love reading about history for video games and their inner workings. It's always been fascinating to me. That's why I like the TCRF and why I joined this Discord.
cuba200611 6/11/2018 12:13 AM
^
12:14 AM
I just like learning stuff hidden in games...
12:14 AM
Like those rants Richard Aplin put on a few games he worked on...
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 12:26 AM
True.
Neko May 6/11/2018 12:26 AM
@KeetaCat: Welcome and enjoy your stay. :3
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 12:26 AM
And past events relating to games, like Nintendo
12:26 AM
Thanks
Neko May 6/11/2018 12:26 AM
^w^
12:27 AM
You're welcome!
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 12:29 AM
Anyways, I've been researching old Nintendo events for the last hour or so. It's pretty fascinating.
12:31 AM
It also shocked me how far back Ninty's online reach was.
12:31 AM
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/11/2018 12:32 AM
nintendo always tries to do something first, even if the technology is holding it back
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 12:35 AM
Yep, they even did VR back in 1995.
12:35 AM
Even though the Virtual Boy kind of.. sucked.
Hugette Hikari 6/11/2018 12:35 AM
wow, camp hyrule, i haven't heard that name in forever
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 12:36 AM
I didn't know about its existence until today when I was looking through old Nintendo events on Wikipedia.
Hugette Hikari 6/11/2018 12:36 AM
i used to go on there a very long time ago, i remember minigames and there being "stories" every year
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 12:38 AM
I was only like 4 when the last one happened. I wish I could of experienced the 2000's more.
divingkxt 6/11/2018 1:13 AM
I mean, Netscape might not have been had Nintendo not shrugged it off. (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/11/2018 1:22 AM
owo!
Neko May 6/11/2018 1:30 AM
Are we trying to give Nintendo completely undeserved credit for things?
divingkxt 6/11/2018 1:48 AM
https://www.dromble.com/2013/09/07/the-nintendo-connection-why-netscape-almost-never-happened/
Emily Rogers
The Nintendo Connection: Why Netscape Almost Never Happened - Dromble
What would the internet be like if Netscape didn’t happen? You could argue that the war between Netscape vs. Internet Explorer contributed to internet access becoming more widespread and mainstream at a much faster rate. Perhaps Microsoft wouldn’t have pushed Internet...
1:48 AM
Well...
1:50 AM
Netscape was supposed to serve as an internet component for the 64 rather than a web browser.
divingkxt 6/11/2018 1:57 AM
Of course, Nintendo shrugged it off because the proposition was before web browsing was even advertised or common. (edited)
1:58 AM
This was in the early days of AOL. Also, Prodigy and CompuServe. (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/11/2018 2:04 AM
webkit
divingkxt 6/11/2018 2:06 AM
No relation to WebKit.
2:06 AM
Closer to Mosaic.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/11/2018 3:44 AM
oh
Hiccup 6/11/2018 4:45 AM
In Super Mario 64, is there a difference between "models in general" and "models used for objects"? Or are they stored in the same way?
Deleted User 6/11/2018 5:57 AM
Hey, I've contributed (somewhat poorly) to the wiki for a while but i'm new here! I kinda need a bit of updating, what's with the closing of account registration thingy?
5:58 AM
sorry if you've heard the question a million times from other noobs or returning users, just wondering
Ketsuban 6/11/2018 6:05 AM
Google took down the old reCAPTCHA, and replacing it with the new kind is nontrivial.
6:05 AM
IIRC, anyway.
Deleted User 6/11/2018 6:06 AM
oh, that was it? lol
6:08 AM
anyway, i'm gonna spend some time trying to figure out how to edit a wiki again, apologies to any messes i've caused previously haha
Hiccup 6/11/2018 6:23 AM
Is Mupen64Plus an acceptable emulator for screenshots?
6:23 AM
Its not listed on the page.
Guber "Губер" 6/11/2018 8:10 AM
I found some sprites while digging through the ROM of Hamtaro - Ham Ham Heartbreak! for GBA, and I found two sprites of a character that I haven't seen anywhere in the game from what I've played, and nowhere on the site. How can I verify if it's actual unused content?
Hiccup 6/11/2018 8:18 AM
If you are pretty sure, you can put it on the site.
8:18 AM
You could potentially write some code to check what the game loads and then play through the whole game. Maybe. (edited)
Guber "Губер" 6/11/2018 8:19 AM
I could watch the sprites with VisualBoy Advance and maybe find a TAS movie?
Hiccup 6/11/2018 8:19 AM
Just put it on the wiki - other people can correct it if need be.
eientei 6/11/2018 8:19 AM
or you could watch a longplay
Hiccup 6/11/2018 8:20 AM
Yeah. eientei95's idea is better than the TAS one, as TASs skip a lot of stuff. (edited)
Guber "Губер" 6/11/2018 8:20 AM
Alright, hopefully the palette I used is correct. I screwed with the regular palettes and found one that I think is normal.
Deleted User 6/11/2018 12:39 PM
I have pledged a tiny symbolic donation to the cutting room floor on liberapay.com
12:40 PM
it is almost certainly not worth the effort of collecting, but if you were wondering who did that, there you go
Netscape Navigator 6/11/2018 4:25 PM
https://www.projectwonderful.com/thanks.php oh
Project Wonderful - So long, and thanks for all the hits :(
Project Wonderful is an online advertising broker with an innovative model that brings fairness, transparency, and profitability to the advertising process!
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rampy 6/11/2018 4:31 PM
Dang
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 4:36 PM
I hope that doesn't mean TCRF gets normal ads.
4:36 PM
I browse places like it on mobile alot where I can't get access to an adblocker and having my device get slowed down to a crawl by constant popups and animated ads is irritating.
Xkeeper 6/11/2018 4:45 PM
tcrf will get no ads.
4:45 PM
well
4:45 PM
other than the noticebox at the top of the page, which will probably revert to "support us on patreon thx"
4:45 PM
but with pw gone i'm not adding anything else.
Deleted User 6/11/2018 4:47 PM
thanks xkeeper
KeetaCat 6/11/2018 4:59 PM
I was wondering if by any chance someone here archived the AddPost.aspx page from the now-defunct ROBLOX forums.
4:59 PM
We're doing a restoration project and that's one of the missing pieces.
Deleted User 6/11/2018 5:08 PM
I do not know, sorry
CM30 6/11/2018 5:15 PM
Not sure if this has been noted yet, but came across a few unused graphics from Wario Land 4 while looking through the files in a level editor that's in development at the moment.
5:16 PM
For instance, Crescent Moon Village has odd tiles for windows and doors that don't seem to match the style of the level, nor get used anywhere. https://warioforums.com/attachments/unuseddoortiles-png.7319/
5:16 PM
Glisp 6/11/2018 5:55 PM
Oh cool, witcher 3 is on sale for 60% off on steam
Glisp 6/11/2018 6:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTd3Bry-ZT4 lol
Rwesthuis
Sonic Boom - Knuckles explains Feminism
6:18 PM
this was too funny
Splitwirez 6/11/2018 6:52 PM
Neko May 6/11/2018 7:20 PM
@KeetaCat: Use Firefox on mobile and you can install uBlock Origin (and HTTPS Everywhere)
Rena 6/11/2018 7:48 PM
How much did the ads even bring in
Guber "Губер" 6/11/2018 8:15 PM
Looking into it, the unused character I found in the GBA Hamtaro game is actually an unused "Ham Chat" that was in the game before it, but didn't make the cut for the sequel. In order to edit the page on TCRF, I need to register an account, but registering is currently closed. What do I do?
AnkyloSource 6/11/2018 8:20 PM
#account-requests
Guber "Губер" 6/11/2018 8:20 PM
Thanks.
divingkxt 6/11/2018 9:17 PM
@Rena On a good day, about $5.
9:17 PM
Right now it's actually one of the higher points.
LexiMax 6/11/2018 9:45 PM
yo is that the cheat in #announcements ?
9:45 PM
You
9:45 PM
I like you
9:45 PM
(whoever You are)
s0lo 6/11/2018 10:03 PM
https://tcrf.net/Five_Nights_at_Freddy%27s_(Windows) exists
FiveNights_at_Freddy%27s(Windows)
divingkxt 6/11/2018 10:06 PM
And?
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/11/2018 10:34 PM
hihi
1
Halfbit 6/11/2018 10:34 PM
Hi
divingkxt 6/11/2018 10:35 PM
iGreetings (edited)
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/11/2018 10:35 PM
lol
10:35 PM
ok jobs
10:36 PM
actually
10:36 PM
you know what sucks abt iOS
10:36 PM
you cant see the fucking wifi freq!!!
divingkxt 6/11/2018 10:37 PM
Oh definitely.
10:37 PM
Android has an app that allows some serious Wi-Fi checking. (edited)
leogorerd 6/11/2018 10:38 PM
you can enable extra wifi information in developer settings, no need for an app
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/11/2018 11:04 PM
that RE2 trailer!
11:04 PM
my highlight so far
Deleted User 6/11/2018 11:11 PM
i cant get that zombie scene out of my head
A Blob 6/11/2018 11:29 PM
Rat mode, pls.
1
Deleted User 6/12/2018 12:49 AM
tfw u think that u may have started to over work ur self .
FMecha 6/12/2018 1:31 AM
http://thearcadestriker.wixsite.com/arcadecollection/other-stuff
TheArcadeStriker Collection
1:32 AM
VF2 PC debug stuff
SBH 6/12/2018 2:58 AM
Can I ask a question about the Sega NAOMI's inputs? Of course we have, PUSH1 to PUSH8, D-Pad, the two analog sticks, and Start, which is normal. But, I see a few games contain strings indicating there are also inputs SHOT10, SHOT11, SHOT12, and SHOT13. Does anyone know what these inputs are? Demul doesn't have these in the control setup, nor could I hack them in myself. (edited)
3:03 AM
I've also done plenty of detective work, looking through Sega NAOMI service manuals and hardware documentation, but still, nothing.
Neko May 6/12/2018 3:10 AM
Check the MAME source?
SBH 6/12/2018 3:15 AM
Will do.
allytogood 6/12/2018 4:14 AM
So, I already asked but I figured I might as well try again. Anybody know anything about Mario Club and their relevance to Ocarina of Time's development. Specifically, how they designed the adult temples which accordingly ended up being more action-oriented?
Neko May 6/12/2018 4:17 AM
The first rule of Mario Club is you don't talk about Mario Club.
allytogood 6/12/2018 4:17 AM
What's the second?
Neko May 6/12/2018 4:17 AM
lol
4:18 AM
I thought they were just glorified testers
4:19 AM
But I actually don't know anything about them other than they exist, so, grain of salt.
allytogood 6/12/2018 4:19 AM
They seem to be more than that, but I also thought the same. However, this is likely due to how it thanks them alongside NOA's Testing Staff or whatever in the credits.
Neko May 6/12/2018 4:19 AM
nods
eientei 6/12/2018 5:24 AM
>I thought they were just glorified testers There's a gif of NSMB(U?) that shows some of the gameplay they do
Hiccup 6/12/2018 5:29 AM
According to this (https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-Asks/Iwata-Asks-New-Super-Mario-Bros-Wii/Volume-3/5-New-Courses-Two-Weeks-Before-Deadline/5-New-Courses-Two-Weeks-Before-Deadline-219635.html) Mario Club did the Super Skills "videos" (input playbacks) in New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Similar videos exist for NSMBU on the game's youtube channel and on the NSMBU+NSLU combo discs. (edited)
Iwata Asks: New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Shigeru Miyamoto and Satoru Iwata take an in-depth look at Mario past and present.
5:30 AM
They might have done the super guide stuff too.
punk7890 6/12/2018 5:40 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1006471196773310464
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a couple of large debug menus in Okage: Shadow King (PS2) https://t.co/dV60fB2oiH These have everything you can think of. Level select, sound tests, enemy encounter tests, flag editors, a dialog viewing menu, camera debug tools, map lighting editors, and more.
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5:40 AM
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/12/2018 7:56 AM
Do they all work?
ajshell1 6/12/2018 9:02 AM
I found some unused content in Defender (2002) for PS2.
9:03 AM
Use Psound to extract some wav files from a certain file, and it'll extract them
9:04 AM
Highlights include unused speech and a slowed-down version of "Danger Zone" by Kenny Loggins.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/12/2018 9:35 AM
Hall way to the DANGER ZONE!
9:35 AM
Take it away to.... COUGH
leilei 6/12/2018 3:05 PM
slowed down, more like psound not finding the proper sample rate so it plays slower than it should by default (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/12/2018 3:16 PM
^
3:16 PM
i have that all the time on psound
LarryLemmy 6/12/2018 6:09 PM
It can be fixed in PSound's "Force to x Hz" option
6:09 PM
But you have to find the right frequency
punk7890 6/12/2018 6:49 PM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 assuming "Do they all work?" was aimed at me, yes. All functions in these menus fully work.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/12/2018 6:49 PM
That's crazy
6:50 PM
I wonder how big the game would be if you took the debug menu out
punk7890 6/12/2018 6:52 PM
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. At best, it's probably only about 10kb worth of code
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/12/2018 6:55 PM
Yeah, you're probably right
6:56 PM
I just always think debug menus are big and extensive things
rabidrodent 6/12/2018 7:37 PM
User: Nintendo / Pass: Smash2018 http://nintendo.e3press.com/Event
Deleted User 6/12/2018 7:51 PM
does anyone know if real? (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/12/2018 7:51 PM
if what's real?
7:52 PM
that e3 link and login is legit
Deleted User 6/12/2018 7:52 PM
could be real
7:56 PM
theres no could about it
7:56 PM
thats for the press only tho
Hugette Hikari 6/12/2018 7:57 PM
well, not anymore. not really anything worth looking at here though besides some stuff that wasn't at e3, but it's nothing we don't already know about
Deleted User 6/12/2018 7:57 PM
some people say it's real. some people say it's fake
7:58 PM
therefore there's a 50/50 chance it's real
rabidrodent 6/12/2018 7:58 PM
...
Deleted User 6/12/2018 7:58 PM
dude thoes people that say its fake dont do this for a living
Borman 6/12/2018 7:58 PM
The press site gets shares every year
Deleted User 6/12/2018 7:59 PM
I don't know could be
7:59 PM
theres a difference between fact and opinion
7:59 PM
the fact is its real
7:59 PM
facts don't matter. people do
Hugette Hikari 6/12/2018 8:00 PM
what
Deleted User 6/12/2018 8:00 PM
8:00 PM
I'm just saying
8:00 PM
look its been known for years even before i got a gamedev job
Derpatide 6/12/2018 8:01 PM
Why would anyone fake a press kit? Everything on there is out now anyway
8:01 PM
It's a press kit
Deleted User 6/12/2018 8:01 PM
I didn't say it was fake. I just said I don't know
Derpatide 6/12/2018 8:01 PM
for advertisement
8:01 PM
for articles
8:01 PM
for promotion
8:01 PM
nothing fancy on there to fake
8:02 PM
it gets sent out every year
Deleted User 6/12/2018 8:02 PM
I wonder
Derpatide 6/12/2018 8:02 PM
Wonder what? Lol
Deleted User 6/12/2018 8:02 PM
what are they up to?
Derpatide 6/12/2018 8:02 PM
Nintendo?
Deleted User 6/12/2018 8:03 PM
nitendo? or nitend-WHO?
GerbilSoft 6/12/2018 8:23 PM
E3press.com is owned by games press ltd
MAR 6/12/2018 8:42 PM
2
8:42 PM
lets talk about sukapon in smash
☎ 6/12/2018 8:45 PM
Damn even ROB is getting LED's now
Deleted User 6/12/2018 8:46 PM
Nintendo.E3press.com is a third party used by Nintendo. Traditionally Nintendo used press.nintendo.com
Splitwirez 6/12/2018 8:47 PM
Laenthor 6/12/2018 8:57 PM
Even if smash ultimate is just smash 4.5, I'll still buy it because smash XD
8:58 PM
If I wasn't working so much, I would've started sorting out most of the unused voice clips from Prisoner of Azkaban. There are at least 300
GerbilSoft 6/12/2018 9:42 PM
FYI: derp bug in rom-properties v1.3 on windows only that caused crashes for certain file types with images whose width wasn't a multiple of 8
9:42 PM
v1.3.1 fixes this
Ketsuban 6/12/2018 9:47 PM
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Ruby_and_Sapphire Is there really an unused Trainer class "THRIATLETE" or is that a typo?
Pok%C3%A9mon_Ruby_and_Sapphire
Hugette Hikari 6/12/2018 9:48 PM
triathlete is a used trainer class in the final game, just looks like a typo to me
9:48 PM
plus the section right above mentions the boarder being the only unused class
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/12/2018 10:37 PM
https://www.dromble.com/2014/01/07/dolphin-tale-story-of-gamecube/
Emily Rogers
A Dolphin's Tale: The Story of GameCube - Dromble
Inside of the Peacock Room in San Francisco’s Mark Hopkins hotel, Silicon Graphics chairman Jim Clark announced an agreement to create the technology for Nintendo’s next gen console, the Ultra 64. An animated 3-D image of Mario is projected onto a movie screen behind Cla...
10:37 PM
great read there
10:38 PM
the SGI stuff best part IMO
allytogood 6/12/2018 11:55 PM
Anybody on here free and can add text to an image for me, plos? I need someone to take this picture and type in `In ALttP there is a Magic Portal to Dark World at the Castle's entrance. In the Japanese version, Sahasrahla tells you it was created when Agahnim broke the Sages' seal—This is ignored in every English release, saying only that the worlds were linked "at Hyrule Castle."`
divingkxt 6/12/2018 11:57 PM
Really wish there was some SOS thingy for Discord.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/12/2018 11:58 PM
youre a thingy
allytogood 6/12/2018 11:58 PM
Yeah might be cool.
divingkxt 6/13/2018 12:01 AM
Problem - I haven't played A Link to the Past.
allytogood 6/13/2018 12:02 AM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/13/2018 12:03 AM
was there something new announced ?
12:04 AM
oh
12:04 AM
link between
allytogood 6/13/2018 12:04 AM
Nah. I'm just using it for something.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/13/2018 12:10 AM
switch emulation is already moving pretty fast
Laenthor 6/13/2018 12:11 AM
@allytogood Have you checked in the other languages?
allytogood 6/13/2018 12:17 AM
Negative Laenthor.
12:17 AM
But since they typically run off the English language I suspect they are the same.
Laenthor 6/13/2018 12:18 AM
Yeah makes sense
allytogood 6/13/2018 12:20 AM
There is one annotation to this though. Sahasrahla DOES say something is at the castle again in both Japanese/English if you go and look for him in person. So a player who skipped the Moon's Pearl deliberately or by accident and finds themselves stuck in only the Death Mountain section of Dark World, still has some chance of thinking to check around the castle and walking through the portal under the arch.
12:21 AM
Er, to not confuse you if you don't keep up. You can revert back to human form using the Mirror at any time, and this will create a portal to Dark World. But this will dissipate after you go back to Death Mountain to get the Pearl.
Laenthor 6/13/2018 12:25 AM
Wait? There's a moon pearl in albw? Can't remember honestly
Hugette Hikari 6/13/2018 12:26 AM
there is not
Laenthor 6/13/2018 12:27 AM
ah whoops, thought you were talking about albw up there for some reason. Getting tired XD
12:27 AM
Night everyone
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/13/2018 12:27 AM
Laenthor 6/13/2018 12:27 AM
yes
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/13/2018 12:27 AM
Deleted User 6/13/2018 2:44 AM
how to open txd ps2 file for other games (not gta)?
eientei 6/13/2018 2:49 AM
What games
Deleted User 6/13/2018 2:50 AM
Burnout 3
eientei 6/13/2018 2:53 AM
https://zenhax.com/viewtopic.php?p=18562&sid=64c67157e995fd04abcee00d9b90e136#p18562
Deleted User 6/13/2018 3:00 AM
dat files (edited)
escape209 6/13/2018 4:19 AM
Oh hey that's me when i was DPersonalized :D
4:21 AM
to view burnout 3's textures, i use a program called TextureFinder, though bear in mind it doesn't work for all texture formats used by the game
Deleted User 6/13/2018 4:56 AM
what about Adobe ImageReady CS2?
Deleted User 6/13/2018 9:55 AM
Try this as well https://github.com/TGEnigma/Amicitia/releases
TGEnigma/Amicitia
Amicitia - Editor for file formats used in Atlus' Persona games
9:56 AM
Persona 3/4 use renderware formats, and this program supports them. I don't know how different the formats vary between Burnout and Persona though.
Deleted User 6/13/2018 10:25 AM
nop work
FMecha 6/13/2018 11:40 AM
So I'm watching Asphalt 8 update livestream
11:41 AM
An official leak gave the McLaren MP4-X as one of the new cars for upcoming update, but the livestream reveals it's the McLaren X2 instead
11:41 AM
Is this Prerelease worthy, or where should it belong?
11:42 AM
This is the video with MP4-X https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ5JIhAq7ok
Elite Hectorx
Asphalt 8 - SUMMER UPDATE [27] MP4-X (SNEAK PEEK)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/13/2018 11:45 AM
BETA MP4-X
FMecha 6/13/2018 11:47 AM
Here's the X2 (update isn't out yet)
Deleted User 6/13/2018 12:13 PM
this game is bullshit
12:13 PM
better than AsphaltX
GerbilSoft 6/13/2018 1:38 PM
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/06/13/1532243/a-vulnerability-in-cortana-now-patched-allowed-attacker-to-access-a-locked-computer-change-its-password
A Vulnerability in Cortana, Now Patched, Allowed Attacker To Acces...
Catalin Cimpanu, reporting for BleepingComputer: Microsoft has patched a vulnerability in the Cortana smart assistant that could have allowed an attacker with access to a locked computer to use the smart assistant and access data on the device, execute malicious code, or even...
1:38 PM
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
MysticSageJosh 6/13/2018 1:39 PM
Cortana is useless
1:40 PM
about as useless as bonzibuddy
Revenant 6/13/2018 1:46 PM
bonzibuddy is actually more useful because it's a cool gorilla and/or parrot
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Zechariah B. 6/13/2018 1:57 PM
I would seriously give 100$ to anyone that figures out how LSD Dream Emulator's randomness can be predicted and know exactly how the code for it works.
2:01 PM
Probably a GUI map that tells position and nearby visited locations while dreaming would be nice...
Zechariah B. 6/13/2018 2:19 PM
@Revenant Bonzi spyware spies for the "best interest" of advertising.
cuba200611 6/13/2018 3:05 PM
'Cept the parrot is stolen from Office 97 IIRC.
Hugette Hikari 6/13/2018 3:05 PM
yes it is
3:05 PM
idk the exact version but it's stolen from some version of office
Netscape Navigator 6/13/2018 3:25 PM
it's from the Microsoft Agents assets
3:25 PM
ms deliberately released that stuff to developers in Windows 98 (edited)
3:26 PM
i can't think of anything except Office Assistant and BonziBuddy that used it though
Hugette Hikari 6/13/2018 3:26 PM
plus bonzi just scrapped peedy in favor of everyone's favorite purple gorilla anyway
Sunk 6/13/2018 3:35 PM
speaking of bonzi, https://www.ebay.com/itm/162952527797?ViewItem=&item=162952527797
RARE Bonzi Buddy Plush BRAND NEW/MINT 2001 Gold Membership Reward ...
Don't miss out! | eBay!
🐮 6/13/2018 3:35 PM
http://littlebigarchive.com/
Home
3:35 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/PS3/comments/8ghoep/saving_modnation_racers_and_littlebigplanet/e02xjs2/
Saving ModNation Racers and LittleBigPlanet Karting - MNR now shut...
I figure this is a good place to share something I've been working on then. http://littlebigarchive.com/ this...
Sunk 6/13/2018 3:36 PM
I've been following that auction since February. its initial price was about $1000
3:36 PM
looks like the owner has been unsuccessful ever since, so he keeps lowering the price
Deleted User 6/13/2018 3:38 PM
is the irony bubble finally bursting? thank god
3:38 PM
or more likely people just have no fucking money (edited)
blueskyrunner 6/13/2018 4:05 PM
I've been watching a Sonic Adventure Big plush over multiple listings in hopes it would become affordable
4:05 PM
It started in the $3000 range, and is now in the double digits range, but still rather pricy
Rena 6/13/2018 5:27 PM
I've been watching the Pixel C tablet
5:27 PM
Started out at $1000CAD and now it's like twice that
5:27 PM
No idea why
5:28 PM
On US Amazon it was like $400
goat 6/13/2018 5:32 PM
it's a switch
Neko May 6/13/2018 8:16 PM
I wish someone would make another 12.2" Android tablet
8:16 PM
Mine is getting long in the tooth
Laenthor 6/13/2018 10:32 PM
Um?
10:32 PM
Is this article really needed?
Deleted User 6/13/2018 10:33 PM
I vote no
Δndrew P. 6/13/2018 10:34 PM
What in the...? I doubt that’s needed in a wiki.
Revenant 6/13/2018 10:34 PM
10:35 PM
can you name the admin that was contacted about this? (i can't)
10:35 PM
Laenthor 6/13/2018 10:35 PM
You guys were okay with this?
darkwitchclaire 6/13/2018 10:35 PM
I'm guessing none
Revenant 6/13/2018 10:35 PM
i sure didn't hear about it
Laenthor 6/13/2018 10:35 PM
Yeah guessed so
10:35 PM
Me neither, I just saw this in the recent changes log
Splitwirez 6/13/2018 10:39 PM
>Sunky lol
Laenthor 6/13/2018 10:40 PM
https://tcrf.net/Sunky_The_Game:_Part_1_(Windows) Here's the page that I hope will be burned off the site soon
Sunky The Game: Part 1 (Windows)
Splitwirez 6/13/2018 10:41 PM
(edited)
Rena 6/13/2018 11:04 PM
I'm just surprised the article wasn't created by a user named Looney Dude
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Δndrew P. 6/13/2018 11:06 PM
Plot twist, the user who made the article is actually Looney Dude
DarthDubඞ 6/13/2018 11:10 PM
i saw that last night and i was flabbergasted
11:10 PM
i think sonic fangames shouldn't be allowed
11:11 PM
but whatever the admins decide i'm cool with (edited)
Smoke 6/13/2018 11:12 PM
why does this continue to happen
GerbilSoft 6/13/2018 11:22 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-wii-prototype-Ndev-model-rvt-001-for-colectors-untested-selling-as-is/142825491649 relatively cheap NDEV - $300 + $38.60 shipping
Nintendo wii prototype Ndev model rvt-001 for colectors untested ...
No wires or acceosries includes. | eBay!
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/13/2018 11:44 PM
ooo
11:44 PM
nice find
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/13/2018 11:50 PM
@Δndrew P. i think its something similar to that
11:50 PM
11:50 PM
11:50 PM
r/hmmm
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/13/2018 11:51 PM
@GerbilSoft how bout this thing?
11:51 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-GameCube-ATI-Flipper-Thanks-For-Outstanding-Effort-Limited-Rare-Console/222966478362?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D44040%26meid%3D45a5043dd6de41a78aa89daa8e3fcf0c%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D142825491649%26itm%3D222966478362&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982
Nintendo GameCube ATI Flipper Thanks For Outstanding Effort Limite...
Selling an extremely rare ATI thanks for your effort on Flipper Console. No cords or controllers included. Console has sunfading. Hear were given to those who helped at ATI in the processor design. See pictures for fading and wear. Sold as is- no returns. Sold as a collectors...
GerbilSoft 6/13/2018 11:53 PM
seen it
11:53 PM
it's a 'nice to have'
11:53 PM
but not worth $999.99
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/13/2018 11:53 PM
oh theres more out there?
GerbilSoft 6/13/2018 11:54 PM
i think there are
11:54 PM
but the system itself is identical to retail
11:54 PM
the only difference is the center lid
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/13/2018 11:54 PM
looks like a die on there too
GerbilSoft 6/13/2018 11:54 PM
(which is removable)
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/13/2018 11:55 PM
DC dev kits seem less expensive
11:56 PM
assembler ppl prolly have all this shit
leilei 6/14/2018 1:31 AM
i forget. do dc dev kits also carry some powervr sg video card?
1:32 AM
as that was once going to be powervr's 1998 consumer video card product
1:32 AM
before it was shelved and reunshelved to become neon 250 the next year
1:32 AM
the dc gpu is based on that sg card (edited)
1:33 AM
you gotta debug rendering somewhere
1:34 AM
i also wonder what hilarious strings lie inside the pvr2 debug drivers like there was for pcx2 (edited)
Neko May 6/14/2018 2:22 AM
ST Kyro chips were PVR2. (edited)
2:23 AM
There were a few commercial designs that used the chips.
2:23 AM
PowerVR was always fabless
Hiccup 6/14/2018 6:21 AM
Am I making a stupid mistake or do some (New Super Mario Bros (USA) and others) Wii U Virtual Console DS ROM's ARM9 code differ from the physical game equivalent? I might just be extracting/decompressing it wrong. The game serial/revision matches... (edited)
6:23 AM
nsmb_usa_vc_arm9.bin
568.14 KB
6:23 AM
nsmb_usa_arm9.bin
568.14 KB
ff 6/14/2018 6:58 AM
So I dumped the sound data thingy from the Twilight Princess trailer for the Nintendo DS
sound_data_smap.txt
1.3 KB
7:02 AM
Also, here.
NDSeditor.zip
64 KB
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/14/2018 9:16 AM
9:17 AM
I found stage editor in Kaettekita Cyborg Kuro chan.
ShiniiLevii 6/14/2018 11:49 AM
cool
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 12:19 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Skipper
Sky Skipper
Sky Skipper (スカイ・スキッパー, Sukai Sukippā) is a 1981 arcade game by Nintendo R&D1. Some sources assert that Ikegami Tsushinki also did design work on the game. Sky Skipper was produced in upright, cabaret, and cocktail cabinets. Sky Skipper was not successful i...
12:19 PM
nintendo has held onto the original north american arcade board for this and is officially releasing it for the switch
12:19 PM
what does that say for other lost nintendo things?
12:23 PM
if they held onto and preserved this of all things, who knows what else they could have
MysticSageJosh 6/14/2018 12:24 PM
time to rob nintendo and get zelda 64
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 12:28 PM
>At E3 2018, it was revealed Sky Skipper will be released on the Nintendo eShop for Nintendo Switch. The game's ROM was pulled from the last remaining arcade cabinet in America.
12:28 PM
what in the fuck
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 12:29 PM
exactly, they held onto that for 37 years despite the game being a huge failure and never released in north america
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 12:29 PM
nah idk
12:30 PM
is it that last remaining cabinet was in america and imported from japan?
12:30 PM
i doubt its some unreleased NA version
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 12:31 PM
either way, it was claimed to be "the last remaining known cabinet" and it was built from that
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 12:32 PM
https://www.skyskipperproject.com/
Sky Skipper Project
12:32 PM
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 12:35 PM
the story is that nintendo of america received 10 sky skipper cabinets and they were put into arcades as a test, but it never got released and only one machine survived in NOA's archive
12:35 PM
12:35 PM
here's the cabinet
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 12:41 PM
>Stanley informed me that Nintendo doesn’t really pay much attention to the ‘pre-NES’ timeline, so there’s little-to-no interest in the arcade-era legacy, and much – if not all – of what Nintendo has in their historical archives is due to the nostalgia of Stanley, Frank Ballouz and others at Nintendo that sought to preserve the history – not the corporation itself being overly interested in that preservation.
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 12:43 PM
nintendo of japan themselves requested that the ROM would be retrieved from the cabinet so that they could officially release it, so I don't know
12:44 PM
then again it took until today for an arcade perfect port of donkey kong to be released
Neko May 6/14/2018 12:53 PM
@Hiccup: Perhaps they're prepatching now instead of doing it on the fly?
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:14 PM
https://twitter.com/gosokkyu/status/1007298001021202432
GSK🌭 (@gosokkyu)
for context, there were only ever ~12 boards in existence w only one left in NOA's archives & 1 or 2 in the wild; even the released JP ver is rare due to being cannibalised for Popeye boards they didn't have to do this, nobody ever thought they'd do this, big ups for doin...
Neko May 6/14/2018 1:14 PM
Psh. They're only doing it to cash in on "retro".
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:15 PM
doesn't matter why they did it
1:15 PM
the point is that they did it to begin with
MysticSageJosh 6/14/2018 1:15 PM
"cash in on retro"
1:16 PM
for a game no one has fucking heard of until now
Revenant 6/14/2018 1:16 PM
game publisher publishes game to cash in on game, water is wet, etc
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:17 PM
releasing the arcade versions of punch out, mario bros, and donkey kong is cashing in on retro
Neko May 6/14/2018 1:17 PM
Hopefully the ROMs can be extracted.
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:17 PM
releasing a game most people haven't even heard of and was never released in north america is different
1:17 PM
it will be
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:19 PM
https://www.skyskipperproject.com/30-years-of-nothing-then-ebay/
Whitney Roberts
30 years of nothing…and then eBay happened
eBay is an interesting place – of that there is no doubt. Like all dedicated arcade hunters, I have a plethora of saved searches and notifications keeping me up-to-date on new arcade-related…
1:19 PM
converted popeye board
1:22 PM
but yeah i believe mame has sky skipper already
Neko May 6/14/2018 1:23 PM
Hm. Let me check.
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:24 PM
surviving japanese boards have been playable or converted/fixed up to be playable
Neko May 6/14/2018 1:24 PM
SKYSKIPR
1:25 PM
Yep, you're right, it's in there
1:25 PM
http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/?mame=skyskipr
Sky Skipper - Gioco MAME
Pagina di dettaglio di Sky Skipper, romset skyskipr
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:27 PM
recovering the rom will probably be pointless in that case because I'm sure it's identical to the version we already have
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:27 PM
extracting it would still potentially verify the dump is good
Neko May 6/14/2018 1:27 PM
Never assume.
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:27 PM
but again, the point i was trying to make was this: nintendo held onto this crap game that nobody liked for 37 years
1:28 PM
and we just recently found the pokemon gold proto that we thought was lost too
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:28 PM
i think it was mainly like 1 guy who had the cab in the warehouse
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:28 PM
it was in the nintendo archives
1:28 PM
not a warehouse
Neko May 6/14/2018 1:28 PM
Well, not Nintendo specifically, yeah
1:28 PM
Just one or two guys who said "maybe we should hold on to this"
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:28 PM
what would an "archive" look like
Hiccup 6/14/2018 1:29 PM
a temperature controlled room
Neko May 6/14/2018 1:29 PM
Who knows, they could be lying for all we know and just grabbed the MAME ROMset. (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:29 PM
what I'm saying is that it wasn't just sitting in some warehouse somewhere that somebody accidentally found one day
1:30 PM
it was readily available for nintendo of america to grab the rom from for the sake of porting it
Neko May 6/14/2018 1:30 PM
Wouldn't be the first time MAME's dumps have made it into commercial, official products/releases.
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:30 PM
and it's not like some random employee is the one who told the story for the sake of PR
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:31 PM
Hiccup 6/14/2018 1:31 PM
Maybe Nintendo Co Ltd only has a ROM archive for recent systems. Or maybe for the older systems its only the Japanese versions they keep. (edited)
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:32 PM
don james was around with the company when the game was actually still being made and was present for when the machines came to america
1:32 PM
where are you getting that article from?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:33 PM
https://www.skyskipperproject.com/our-day-at-noa/
Whitney Roberts
Our Day at NOA
This post is easily a year in the making, so bear with us because it is a long one. Tons of pictures and lots to say – I’d grab a beer ahead of this and set aside a bit of time. The ba…
1:33 PM
they went there like a year back to scan the marquee and shit
1:34 PM
not sure where hamster got the idea to get it too but this cab has been pretty busy the last few years
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:35 PM
hamster has been doing stuff like this since the switch launched so they probably decided to take things one step further than just making the first arcade perfect ports for nintendo's released games (edited)
1:36 PM
but even if it was just one person that insisted they keep the machine around, that still suggests there could be more treasures left in there
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:36 PM
right
1:36 PM
waiting for donkey kong no ongaku asobi
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:37 PM
probably something to find
1:37 PM
people found that one port of donkey kong 3
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:37 PM
at least that one was released
1:38 PM
this'd be in the NoJ archives if anywhere
1:38 PM
speakin of DK3
1:39 PM
i think we only have the PC-88 version
1:39 PM
theres still the sharp-x1
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:39 PM
in a perfect world nintendo would release the lost satellaview games
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:39 PM
idk how they would handle the soundlink enhanced games tho
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:39 PM
the sharp x1 version was found
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:40 PM
ah was it
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIOCYT2TcpY
Nintendo Era
Donkey Kong 3: Dai Gyakushuu Stages 11-15 (Sharp X1)
1:41 PM
can't find anything for a pc-88 version though
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:41 PM
oh yeah maybe it was that one then
1:41 PM
i was confused because the filenames like D88 for the sharp x1 dump
Deleted User 6/14/2018 1:43 PM
@Hugette Hikari all i could find from a simple google search - http://www.mobygames.com/game/pc88/donkey-kong-3 https://www.mariowiki.com/Donkey_Kong_3:_Dai_Gyakush%C5%AB
Donkey Kong 3 for PC-88 (1984) - MobyGames
Released in the arcades in 1983, Donkey Kong 3 is the third of the "Donkey Kong" arcade game series, changing the format to more of an action-shooter than a platform game. As Stanley the Bugman, players are positioned under Donkey Kong, who has taken over a multi-level greenh...
Donkey_Kong_3:_Dai_Gyakush%C5%AB
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:43 PM
1:44 PM
i guess they do exist
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:44 PM
why wouldnt they
Deleted User 6/14/2018 1:44 PM
just un released , i guess ,
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:44 PM
sigh
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:44 PM
i just wasn't sure, i guess people settled after finding at least one version
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/14/2018 1:44 PM
i thought you meant a rom
1:45 PM
which yes, theres no dump for that
1:45 PM
and apparently theres a PC-66 version too
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 1:45 PM
one is better than none and going by hudson's other games, they're mostly identical anyway
1:45 PM
so probably wasn't considered worth the effort to continue the hunt for most people
GerbilSoft 6/14/2018 4:11 PM
>sky skipper game wasn't booting
4:12 PM
i think i know why
4:12 PM
4:12 PM
twitch
4:13 PM
..though apparently the ROMs were intact
4:13 PM
so ??
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 4:13 PM
that's how they were able to make the switch port in the first place, after all
GerbilSoft 6/14/2018 4:14 PM
just seeing uncovered EPROMs like that though
Borman 6/14/2018 4:17 PM
Not a huge deal honestly, it would be enclosed in a cabinet, minimal light
blueskyrunner 6/14/2018 4:24 PM
I see we're talking about Sky Skipper!
4:24 PM
Man, that was a surprise to come home from work to
4:24 PM
I'm looking forward to when it comes out!
GerbilSoft 6/14/2018 4:25 PM
hm
4:25 PM
apparently there was a 2600 release of Sky Skipper
blueskyrunner 6/14/2018 4:25 PM
Yup! Officially released, too
GerbilSoft 6/14/2018 4:25 PM
published by Parker Bros. (edited)
blueskyrunner 6/14/2018 4:25 PM
Though it's only a port in name only, really
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 4:25 PM
not just that, but finally an arcade perfect port of donkey kong too, and it even has both the US and japanese level orders
blueskyrunner 6/14/2018 4:25 PM
Like, it's still about flying in a plane, they have the whole card suits thing, but it's pretty different from the arcade version
4:26 PM
I'd wanted to play it ever since that Sky Skipper arcade cabinet recreation
GerbilSoft 6/14/2018 4:27 PM
are the ROMs publicly available somewhere?
4:27 PM
...well if they aren't now, they will be in a month :V
4:28 PM
also, looking at screenshots - it doesn't look like tile-based rendering
blueskyrunner 6/14/2018 4:28 PM
Oh, the ROM's been online for years
4:28 PM
So the story goes, apparently someone from Factor 5 dumped the ROM right under Nintendo's nose
GerbilSoft 6/14/2018 4:28 PM
oh ok
4:28 PM
derp
blueskyrunner 6/14/2018 4:28 PM
Pretty wild that the person got away with it too, we still don't know who did it, just that it was someone from Factor 5
4:29 PM
It's probably for the best though, they did good work
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 4:31 PM
now everyone can play the game, both people who prefer official releases and people who are comfortable with emulating
Revenant 6/14/2018 4:32 PM
back when the demoscene group i'm in was still involved with GBC scene releases/trainers i've been told Factor 5 used to just leak games to whoever had intros that they liked
4:33 PM
pretty hard to believe they eventually went bankrupt
blueskyrunner 6/14/2018 4:34 PM
Yeah, kind of a bummer. They sounded pretty darn cool
leilei 6/14/2018 4:35 PM
wasn't funcom involved with censor
4:36 PM
or am i confusing things
4:36 PM
MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
Revenant 6/14/2018 4:36 PM
yes
4:36 PM
alfatech/censor worked on the snes port of nba hang time
4:37 PM
a bunch of guys from spaceballs worked on winter gold which is insanely obvious if you watch some of their old demos
blueskyrunner 6/14/2018 4:37 PM
I love the look of that game
Revenant 6/14/2018 4:39 PM
(also i have a lot of reason to believe that one or two of argonaut's SNES/N64 era sound guys were also anthrox members, which is why they made most of the only SNES homebrew and intros back then with good music or any music)
leilei 6/14/2018 4:40 PM
yeah i was wondering why there was a pd rom with funky goblin (edited)
4:42 PM
but though i forget the details of many of those pd roms anyway
4:42 PM
i jdo know some snes games had their assets flipped into the pd roms (edited)
Revenant 6/14/2018 4:42 PM
i'm talking about homebrew with original music though
4:43 PM
the guy who programmed anthrox's spacewar clone "shoot your load" also worked on star fox (it wasn't dylan or giles but i forgot the guy's real name)
leilei 6/14/2018 4:44 PM
that had rock & roll racing music didn't it
Revenant 6/14/2018 4:44 PM
no, all their music was original
4:44 PM
(well there was an odd cover version here or there but it was still self-made)
4:47 PM
i wrote about it here a while ago https://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=13722
4:48 PM
and tweeted at justin scharvona some time ago "hey was this you" but never got an answer
A Blob 6/14/2018 9:12 PM
"After the most amazing fist bump, Sonic runs away." https://pastebin.com/vDubsVhN
SONIC FORCES Scenario (2016/1/19) [Translated by Windii] - Pastebi...
9:12 PM
An early Sonic Forces script has been leaked and translated so that's neat.
9:14 PM
And even in the early script, Seaside Hill doesn't appear as a level, what the hell?
AnkyloSource 6/14/2018 10:10 PM
I heard some switch custom OS is getting released soon. I know it won't be as far advance/etc as the 3ds stuff but I'm really temped just so I can start dumping/REing switch stuff
10:10 PM
I just really don't wanna be banned lol, almost every game i have is download play (edited)
old acc! inactive 6/14/2018 10:10 PM
previews of the SX Pro are releasing and people are already making a crack
10:10 PM
niCe
BowzasaurusRex 6/14/2018 11:30 PM
Hey, I was bored poking around in the 3DS eShop software and I found the icons for Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection and Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection Pay & Play. Are these used at all on the eShop, or are they unused?
Laenthor 6/14/2018 11:40 PM
was the NWFC still a thing when the 3ds was launched?
11:40 PM
Because it might've been used for some dsi games. That's my best guess.
11:41 PM
Hmm, last game I recall using it is Mario Kart Wii's online mode.
Halfbit 6/14/2018 11:42 PM
NWFIC was dicsontinued on May 20, 2014
11:42 PM
@Laenthor
Laenthor 6/14/2018 11:43 PM
Yeah makes sense that I remember MKW being the last thing I remember using the NWFC
Hugette Hikari 6/14/2018 11:43 PM
pokemon black/white 2 is the most recent game i recall using nintendo wifi connection
Deleted User 6/14/2018 11:44 PM
yeh ,
Laenthor 6/14/2018 11:44 PM
Also one of the more popular, alongside Mario Kart DS
11:44 PM
Maybe some obscure 3ds-ported dsi software used the NWFC
11:45 PM
I really need to work on these Prisoner of Azkaban voice clips but I'm always so tired from work!
11:48 PM
Starting monday, I'm going to find at least 10 per day. https://tcrf.net/Harry_Potter_and_the_Prisoner_of_Azkaban_(Windows) This page needs a lot of work
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (Windows)
BowzasaurusRex 6/14/2018 11:50 PM
On the topic of the Nintendo WFC icons, apparently there were two DSiWare games that used Nintendo WFC before it was shut down, maybe it was ported to the eShop before they discontinued online in 2014.
11:50 PM
Not too sure about Pay & Play though
Laenthor 6/14/2018 11:52 PM
Since Sorcerer's Stone is on the featured articles and Chamber of Secrets is pretty full as well, my focus will shift to this game. There are over 300 unused voice clips, probably even more unused sound clips, at least 5 or more unused music tracks, more models, textures, and to top it off, a LOT of unused animations (a video will take more than 15 minutes just to showcase 5 seconds of each animation).
1
11:52 PM
This game is a goldmine of unused content
1
11:58 PM
I thought I had most voice clips in the alldialog.uax file, but nope, activating the sound test reveals even MORE audio (and I don't know how I will record/extract it)
Deleted User 6/14/2018 11:59 PM
you can do it! I believe in you!!!
Laenthor 6/15/2018 12:01 AM
Everytime I activate debug mode I discover new stuff! It's a curse. The tcrf curse!
12:03 AM
Welp, got a busy weekend at work, going to bed
AnkyloSource 6/15/2018 12:18 AM
I'm still trying to figure out my first file format I'm not very good at this yet lol
12:18 AM
I accidentally got a bit distracted and found a tiny bit of debug code though which is cool
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/15/2018 12:22 AM
>It should be mentioned that the sub causes some lag on the N64 version of the game. The lag issue was fixed in the Virtual Console re-release and the DS remake.
12:22 AM
A Blob 6/15/2018 12:54 AM
@BowzasaurusRex Those are unused because the 3DS and Wii U use the Nintendo Network, not the Wi-Fi Connection.
escape209 6/15/2018 3:16 AM
This game is weird
leilei 6/15/2018 3:34 AM
eientei 6/15/2018 11:10 AM
Huh, Conker's Quest
11:11 AM
MP4 converted
Deleted User 6/15/2018 11:40 AM
Neat
Rena 6/15/2018 11:44 AM
It's common for audio files to be stored in one bitrate but played in another to save space
11:44 AM
Or even played at multiple rates for different effects (eg Boo and Bowser in SM64 are the same sound)
RadSpyro 6/15/2018 3:44 PM
Found an unused boss in the final version of Nightmare Busters. Sadly only the portrait and arena seem to remain.
5
2
3
DarthDubඞ 6/15/2018 5:22 PM
good work
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/15/2018 10:59 PM
nice!
10:59 PM
11:00 PM
I found debug menu in Elder Gate.
5
4
6
4
DeadlyDilemma 6/15/2018 11:38 PM
time to get crazy
Deleted User 6/15/2018 11:39 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/15/2018 11:53 PM
DK
11:53 PM
any progress on dingus?
divingkxt 6/16/2018 12:15 AM
Not yet.
12:15 AM
Awaiting to see how it's running thus far.
12:16 AM
But yeah... The next step is to get a more complete MMU emulation in.
AnkyloSource 6/16/2018 12:18 AM
after days of finding my way around IDA, 3ds quirks, and c in general, I finally found the code that reads the file format I'm researching
12:19 AM
it's so cool finally seeing what bytes do what. I found a control byte in almost every file format that I had no idea existed
divingkxt 6/16/2018 12:27 AM
OH shit, it can't actually run anything due to a RAM detection bug.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/16/2018 12:32 AM
how did you NOT know that?!! hahah
12:32 AM
dont you build/test?
divingkxt 6/16/2018 12:32 AM
Yes, but I didn't expect this bug.
FMecha 6/16/2018 12:34 AM
another re-ask for your @divingkxt
12:34 AM
This car ended up in the update instead for the record https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/386543982399979534/456484743983136780/unknown.png?width=916&height=473
divingkxt 6/16/2018 12:34 AM
To be honest, it's tricky.
12:35 AM
I can't tell if this is some error or not.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/16/2018 12:35 AM
IIRC when I ran that build you gave me it said something about mem
12:35 AM
64k or smthn
divingkxt 6/16/2018 12:36 AM
Anyhow, for dingus, the error is caused by "machine_sysram_mem = (unsigned char*) malloc (1024 * 1024 * 4);"
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 12:36 AM
nice malloc
divingkxt 6/16/2018 12:36 AM
TBF, not much better than what Sheepshaver uses.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/16/2018 12:37 AM
i didnt even try passing it any args
12:37 AM
ARE there any?
divingkxt 6/16/2018 12:38 AM
Two - fuzzer and realtime.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/16/2018 12:44 AM
trying to dig into Eternal Darkness over here
12:44 AM
never really played it back in the day
divingkxt 6/16/2018 12:45 AM
Eternal Darkness is tricky, but the stuff is decompressed in RAM.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 12:49 AM
UUGH
12:50 AM
tinkering with 3ds HB is hard
mrsharkus12 6/16/2018 3:00 AM
Found a Portal Bonus files but they are russian (edited)
Portal_Bonus_Files.zip
3.81 MB
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CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/16/2018 2:08 PM
(edited)
Wumbo 6/16/2018 2:12 PM
Is The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Anniversary Edition lost by any chance?
Hugette Hikari 6/16/2018 2:13 PM
no, it's been put back onto the eshop a couple times since the original release, it's just always been a limited time offer
Wumbo 6/16/2018 2:14 PM
Okay, because I have it on my 3DS and I couldn't find a straightforward answer to my question on the web
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/16/2018 3:11 PM
Hey, so when is Matt Furniss coming to my house and breaking my legs?
Hugette Hikari 6/16/2018 3:11 PM
when he finds out that we're laughing at him, he'll start the manhunt
Deleted User 6/16/2018 6:14 PM
TCRF announces plan to destroy any information it cannot unlock
DarthDubඞ 6/16/2018 6:16 PM
if it's been on the 3ds/wii u eshop, then it's still there to redownload
6:17 PM
so yes you can get it but not by legitimate means
Hugette Hikari 6/16/2018 6:17 PM
yeah, if you've downloaded a game but it becomes delisted, you can still download it any time you want
DarthDubඞ 6/16/2018 6:17 PM
i've actually "pirated" this game (it was free to begin with sue me)
Hugette Hikari 6/16/2018 6:20 PM
if only you could do the same for digital PlayStation games, i really wanted to play jojo's bizarre adventure HD on ps3 but it's been delisted for years
DarthDubඞ 6/16/2018 6:21 PM
rip
AnkyloSource 6/16/2018 6:45 PM
is wayforward a bit dead or do you think they just haven't touched this page in a bit https://wayforward.com/all-games-by-date/
Aaron-WF
All Games (By Date)
The official WayForward website
Hugette Hikari 6/16/2018 6:46 PM
i'd wager that they just haven't updated it
6:46 PM
they worked on the switch port of half-genie hero, didn't they?
AnkyloSource 6/16/2018 6:47 PM
probably, don't have it listed though lol
6:47 PM
I guess they're too busy making games
Hugette Hikari 6/16/2018 6:47 PM
they're missing many things, it seems
6:47 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WayForward_Technologies
WayForward Technologies
WayForward Technologies, Inc. is an American independent video game developer and publisher based in Valencia, California. Founded in 1990 by technology entrepreneur Voldi Way, WayForward started by developing games for consoles such as the Super NES and Genesis, as well as T...
AnkyloSource 6/16/2018 6:48 PM
they seem to be missing some ports, drawn to life isn't written anywhere
Laenthor 6/16/2018 7:13 PM
Time to find some unused audio clips in HP3!
DarthDubඞ 6/16/2018 7:13 PM
unused content in webpages when
divingkxt 6/16/2018 7:14 PM
@DarthDubඞ http://miscdatadigs.shoutwiki.com/
7:14 PM
Right now.
DarthDubඞ 6/16/2018 7:14 PM
damn
divingkxt 6/16/2018 7:14 PM
http://miscdatadigs.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Category:Websites
Category:Websites
7:14 PM
It hasn't seen much usage recently, but it's there.
DarthDubඞ 6/16/2018 7:14 PM
is that the same site that has 3d movie maker
divingkxt 6/16/2018 7:14 PM
Yes.
DarthDubඞ 6/16/2018 7:15 PM
thanks again (even though i have it bookmarked from before)
divingkxt 6/16/2018 7:15 PM
Alsoooo... http://miscdatadigs.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Category:Applications
Category:Applications
7:15 PM
http://miscdatadigs.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Category:Hardware
Category:Hardware
7:15 PM
http://miscdatadigs.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Category:Demoscene
Category:Demoscene
AnkyloSource 6/16/2018 7:17 PM
I probably didn't read enough to know, but why is the beavis and butthead thing there? also, that's really cool that there's a place for this as well. I've always wondered how people get info from/RE physical chips
divingkxt 6/16/2018 7:18 PM
The Beavis and Butthead thing there isn't really a game.
7:19 PM
It's a compilation of random icons, screensavers, cursors, desktop themes, fonts, etc. tied together in a commercial package.
7:19 PM
Most definitely not the only thing like that. There were plenty of these in the 90's.
DarthDubඞ 6/16/2018 7:19 PM
oh goody i can access the site on my wii u
divingkxt 6/16/2018 7:19 PM
Especially during the 3.1, 95, and 98 eras.
AnkyloSource 6/16/2018 7:20 PM
huh, I vaguely remember having something like that, but I'm a little too young to remember all that
divingkxt 6/16/2018 7:23 PM
The 90's also brought us desktop toys.
7:23 PM
And if I had enough motivation and people willing to help out, I would definitely do the Nick Clickables stuff.
Rena 6/16/2018 7:25 PM
Getting stuff out of physical chips can involve finding their datasheets or patent info, fuzzing, extrapolating from how they're used, or using chemicals to remove the plastic and looking at it under a microscope
7:25 PM
If it's just a ROM, it's fairly simple to dump once you figure out the pins. If it's an MCU you usually try to exploit the software
AnkyloSource 6/16/2018 7:30 PM
huh that's really cool. for microcontrollers at least it seems like a tougher/uncommon thing to do. I don't think I've really ever heard stories of interesting things found in them
HunniBun 6/16/2018 7:33 PM
h (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/16/2018 7:37 PM
i managed to make an account while being on my wii u lol
7:38 PM
thanks again diving
Neko May 6/16/2018 8:55 PM
@AnkyloSource: MAME has decapped and dumped quite a few MCUs.
8:57 PM
I love seeing these pride profile pictures. I hope everyone keeps them for good. <3
AnkyloSource 6/16/2018 9:13 PM
I didn't even think of mame, that's really cool! Images of some decapped chips show I would never ever be able to understand this stuff lol
9:13 PM
Also, I like a lot how pride friendly tcrf is, not every game-related community I've been in has been so accepting
Hugette Hikari 6/16/2018 9:14 PM
just a consequence we have to face, unfortunately, but it helps to be accepted
ShiniiLevii 6/16/2018 9:17 PM
:)
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:36 PM
I found that all of these are unused. The not sure folder contains mostly NPCs and stuff that I'll check last because their dialog is boring and unimportant in the story
9:37 PM
Most of these are bumplines because you can't directly talk to these characters at any point, only in cutscenes and/or blocked off by barriers
9:40 PM
Literally all of these are variants of the line "press the button to fly"
ShiniiLevii 6/16/2018 9:41 PM
what
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:41 PM
ShiniiLevii 6/16/2018 9:41 PM
what button
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:41 PM
Listen to the thing I sent
Neko May 6/16/2018 9:41 PM
@AnkyloSource: Yes, TCRF is definitely one of the greatest gaming communities for that very reason among others. :3
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:41 PM
ah doesn't work on discord
9:42 PM
but uh, they cut a lot of useless tutorial dialog, and that's a good thing
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 9:42 PM
encode?
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:42 PM
most likely
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 9:42 PM
UH
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:42 PM
Once I gather enough clips I'll just convert them to ogg in audacity to post on tcrf
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 9:42 PM
that's video
9:43 PM
9:43 PM
LOL
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:43 PM
It's weird, it's a .bik format under a wav
9:43 PM
I think
9:43 PM
VLC can play them fine
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 9:43 PM
9:43 PM
this better I think
9:44 PM
ffmpeg op
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:44 PM
yeah, I just wanted to send a quick example without hassle
9:44 PM
but no XD
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 9:44 PM
ffmpeg is most-needed tool
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:44 PM
ffmpeg is the convert god
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 9:44 PM
you can convert any vid fine...
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:45 PM
ffmpeg on youtube-dl is a must
ShiniiLevii 6/16/2018 9:45 PM
what
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 9:46 PM
lol
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:46 PM
Harry: Hagrid, what's a right mouse button?
9:46 PM
This game is a beautiful mess and I love it
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/16/2018 9:47 PM
looks 4th wall
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:47 PM
nah he doesn't say that, but I wish he did
ShiniiLevii 6/16/2018 9:47 PM
wait are we talking about a Harry Potter game?
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:47 PM
The narative flow is all over the place and the game is just honestly rushed
9:47 PM
yes
ShiniiLevii 6/16/2018 9:47 PM
what game is it
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:47 PM
prisoner of askaban on pc
ShiniiLevii 6/16/2018 9:48 PM
ah
9:48 PM
ok
Laenthor 6/16/2018 9:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ua0yFXhfgc
ToughGamingGuy
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (PC) - Full Game Walkthro...
9:48 PM
I'm looking through audio files to find the unused stuff (and there's a lot of it!)
9:51 PM
Damn, just in about 1 hour I found all this
Deleted User 6/16/2018 9:52 PM
you are doing good work
9:55 PM
I wonder if I could do anything with weird audio files
goat 6/16/2018 10:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU3cFpElLZU&feature=youtu.be i don't know if this has made it to tcr
CaptinNemrac
Unreleased Filters in Super Mario Odyssey!
10:23 PM
worth clicking for the dude describing manga
Laenthor 6/16/2018 11:00 PM
"They are books and you read them backwards"
11:00 PM
Good enough XD
11:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhiTV5OQlOY
Expression de Youtubeurs
David Goodenough - JDG
AnkyloSource 6/16/2018 11:57 PM
Finally figured out why the heck there were so many randomly placed cpp file names in this code
11:58 PM
when they malloc'd, they took the file name as an arg to make finding the error easier. yay debug stuff!
Laenthor 6/17/2018 12:03 AM
cpp?
divingkxt 6/17/2018 12:03 AM
C++
AnkyloSource 6/17/2018 12:03 AM
sorry, yea
12:03 AM
called whatever.cpp so that's what i was thinking of lol
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/17/2018 12:08 AM
cp(lus)p(lus)
AnkyloSource 6/17/2018 12:10 AM
my favorite language, luslus
12:10 AM
you could probably make an esolang related to something creative not in c++ and have the extension be .luslus
12:10 AM
I'd use it (for a second then forget about it forever)
Deleted User 6/17/2018 12:12 AM
more like c-pee-pee
12:12 AM
the way YOU program it
TheMonkeyBob 6/17/2018 2:29 AM
https://themonkeybob.tumblr.com/post/174967702171/warioware-inc-midi-data
Hiccup 6/17/2018 9:38 AM
Does anyone here have "Yoshi's Cookie" for Wii Virtual Console on their Wii/Wii U? It was removed from the CDN.
Deleted User 6/17/2018 10:00 AM
@Hiccup It's available online formatted as a WAD. I'll PM you.
eientei 6/17/2018 10:00 AM
He wants to do a redump
Deleted User 6/17/2018 10:02 AM
@eientei Oh, okay. Unfortunately I do not have it.
Hiccup 6/17/2018 10:02 AM
Yeah, the one you've found online is probably from the scene release. (edited)
LexiMax 6/17/2018 5:28 PM
Does the WAD format have anything to do at all with the format of a Doom WAD?
Hiccup 6/17/2018 5:29 PM
No, its another file type
5:29 PM
its a package used to contain digital Wii titles
LexiMax 6/17/2018 5:30 PM
I had hoped so
5:30 PM
Doom WAD's only have an eight character limit on each "file"
Borman 6/17/2018 5:33 PM
Wad has just become a generic file container at this point
Hiccup 6/17/2018 5:34 PM
well, wad for Wii isn't a generic archive
5:34 PM
its a different thing
5:35 PM
Dunno what it stands for, though W is probably Wii
CyanoTex 6/17/2018 5:49 PM
Hey.
5:53 PM
So, I was curious. Would Detroit: Become Human eventually appear in TCRF?
5:55 PM
I'd assume it has content inside since Quantic Dreams kind of gave us the first chapter before launch as a demo IIRC.
Deleted User 6/17/2018 5:56 PM
The game data can't be dumped yet, but it will happen eventually.
5:56 PM
The current release cutoff is on or before God of War, I think.
divingkxt 6/17/2018 6:04 PM
The 2018 God of War.
6:04 PM
Though we still don't have the original PS2 God of War.
6:04 PM
If you find something there (look inside the executable, for starters), then post it.
divingkxt 6/17/2018 6:35 PM
Speaking of which, where are God of War's cheats?
MysticSageJosh 6/17/2018 6:56 PM
Powersporb is a much better name than Power Bomb Guardian
divingkxt 6/17/2018 6:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxOE44o3hpo
Crystal_
Pokemon Yellow - All Pikachu emotions, and a look at Pikachu's fri...
goat 6/17/2018 7:39 PM
switch game tampering is now a thing
Video 6/17/2018 7:58 PM
unintentional ascii art?
Deleted User 6/17/2018 7:58 PM
I would assume intentional
divingkxt 6/17/2018 7:59 PM
@Video
7:59 PM
That's probably a graphic as viewed through a hex editor.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/17/2018 7:59 PM
bitmap
Video 6/17/2018 7:59 PM
OH
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/17/2018 7:59 PM
look for pallet
8:00 PM
maybe looks like bitmap w/o color…
AnkyloSource 6/17/2018 8:21 PM
@goat with the new layeredFS thing? is there an actual OS to install to do this?
goat 6/17/2018 8:24 PM
layereds, yeah
AnkyloSource 6/17/2018 8:25 PM
I wanna get in on that action but I'm so so scared my switch will be banned lmao
8:25 PM
I'm slightly considering buying another one and only playing cartridge games in it instead of download
softwater 6/17/2018 9:10 PM
you should be fine as long as you keep your switch in airplane mode while doing it
Rena 6/17/2018 9:45 PM
Can you use the joycons wirelessly in airplane mode
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/17/2018 9:46 PM
i think so
AnkyloSource 6/17/2018 9:49 PM
you can't in dockless mode
9:52 PM
and I don't think airplane mode is a thing when docked. but you can just turn of the wifi i suppose
9:53 PM
shinyquagsire is talking about error and stuff being saved to your switch's user account. They could always be storing stuff like that to broadcast later
AnkyloSource 6/17/2018 10:07 PM
this code seems like it allocates a huge chunk of memory then immediately gets rid of it
AnkyloSource 6/17/2018 10:15 PM
wait no it moves it? oof this is too complex for me
Halfbit 6/17/2018 10:48 PM
Hewwo
Deleted User 6/17/2018 10:53 PM
hi
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:01 PM
@divingkxt I got distracted somehow and I uploaded the last 3 files with the wrong name (or with no prefix). If you could move them yourself or tell me how it would be appreciated.
eientei 6/17/2018 11:02 PM
@Laenthor You can move them yourself
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:02 PM
idk how
eientei 6/17/2018 11:03 PM
Go to the file's page, at the top under "More" it has "Move"
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:03 PM
Ah, that's a bit hidden
eientei 6/17/2018 11:03 PM
Yeah
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:08 PM
A simple UI redesign could help a lot. I'm not saying I have a plan but some of the important stuff is still all over the place.
11:09 PM
There's like nothing on the top-center. Put some more stuff in there, or strech the top-left and top-right menus a bit more, idk
eientei 6/17/2018 11:15 PM
Blame the Vector skin
11:15 PM
You can change the skin in https://tcrf.net/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering
Special:Preferences
11:16 PM
You can also do custom CSS that only applies to you
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:17 PM
I tried some custom CSS for mediawiki a while ago and it did not look good
eientei 6/17/2018 11:17 PM
@Laenthor https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=File:HPPoAPC-pc_fre_TaskedShop_46.ogg&useskin=monobook
Index.php?title=File:HPPoAPC-pc fre TaskedShop 46.ogg&useskin=monobook
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:18 PM
Eww, everything is small and squished
eientei 6/17/2018 11:18 PM
Then zoom in /s
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:19 PM
That's just bad
11:19 PM
Nope, the vanilla one is better
eientei 6/17/2018 11:20 PM
Trivia: Monobook used to be the default TCRF skin
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:21 PM
Eww, that would've definitely made me go away (maybe not idk)
Revenant 6/17/2018 11:21 PM
monobook is good
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:22 PM
https://tcrf.net/Harry_Potter_and_the_Prisoner_of_Azkaban_(Windows) Can't wait to be done with the audio to clean up this first section. I'm the one responsible for that disgusting table
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (Windows)
11:22 PM
It's all going to be replaced by a single video
divingkxt 6/17/2018 11:26 PM
@Laenthor Uh...
11:26 PM
That's against the ethos of the site.
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:26 PM
what is?
divingkxt 6/17/2018 11:26 PM
Replacing all the uploaded audio clips with a single video.
eientei 6/17/2018 11:26 PM
I think @Laenthor means the animations
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:26 PM
not the audio clips, the unused animations
eientei 6/17/2018 11:27 PM
as they're all external giphy links atm
divingkxt 6/17/2018 11:27 PM
Oh yeah, that's pretty ugly.
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:27 PM
Yeah I was told to stop
11:27 PM
wonder why XD
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/17/2018 11:27 PM
i read that the same way dk, lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/17/2018 11:27 PM
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:27 PM
That was like a year ago. Don't worry, after the audio, that's the first thing I'm fixing
11:31 PM
https://youtu.be/vqAG0abOxCY It'll be in the same format as this
Laenthor
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets PC - Unused Animations
divingkxt 6/17/2018 11:31 PM
Ah.
Laenthor 6/17/2018 11:32 PM
It's just that there's over 300 unused animations this time so it's going to take a while to make
11:32 PM
and even before that, just checking the files over and over to not miss anything
Spyro 2025 6/18/2018 1:20 AM
This game needs researching for unused stuff
Hugette Hikari 6/18/2018 1:21 AM
would be neat if those starbeans cafe sprites got updated but still went unused
1:21 AM
wouldn't be the first time something like that happened
old acc! inactive 6/18/2018 1:23 AM
why does that koopa seep into the Nintendo 3DS part of the box
Neko May 6/18/2018 1:24 AM
Because he's not covering anything important
Hugette Hikari 6/18/2018 1:24 AM
a better question would be why only europe gets this boxart
1:24 AM
old acc! inactive 6/18/2018 1:25 AM
oh how the tables have turned (edited)
eientei 6/18/2018 1:25 AM
@Spyro 2025 So when are you going to look
Hugette Hikari 6/18/2018 1:26 AM
the european box art is much more reminiscent of the international box art for the GBA original, so I'm not sure why they just went with a simple edit/translation for the US boxart
1:27 AM
then again, they've been doing that since bowser's inside story...
punk7890 6/18/2018 1:27 AM
hi
3
1:30 AM
@Spyro 2025 I believe in you. You can do it.
Spyro 2025 6/18/2018 1:31 AM
@punk7890 I DON'T have anything to research that game
1:32 AM
Are they even available in GameStops?
punk7890 6/18/2018 1:32 AM
the game should be
eientei 6/18/2018 1:38 AM
@punk7890 I DON'T have GameStops to buy that game
Deleted User 6/18/2018 1:38 AM
don't hate
punk7890 6/18/2018 1:39 AM
Hugette Hikari 6/18/2018 1:42 AM
https://tcrf.net/Dragon_Ball_Z:_The_Legacy_of_Goku_II#Debugging_Text
Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II
1:42 AM
would it be worth grabbing screenshots of this text ingame, if possible? I've gotten the game to crash with one of these messages displayed afterwards before, and it uses the same screen as the crash handler from the section after this
1:43 AM
eientei 6/18/2018 1:43 AM
@Hugette Hikari I'd say so, as it shows that they're used by a crash handler
Hugette Hikari 6/18/2018 1:44 AM
also, this was captured from a US cartridge, so it doesn't seem that the crash handler is only functional in the japanese version
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 1:49 AM
I'm really interested in looking into 3ds games right now, I might add it to the list
1:49 AM
I'm currently spending forever learning how to reverse my first file format though (jeez)
Neko May 6/18/2018 1:51 AM
ASSERTION FAILED
1:51 AM
Usually you disable those in a release build.
Hugette Hikari 6/18/2018 1:52 AM
some of them seem to be disabled in the english version, but i got this one to show up due to a faulty cartridge
Neko May 6/18/2018 1:53 AM
Hm.
cal 6/18/2018 4:31 AM
hey
4:32 AM
anyone feel like helping a dude out
eientei 6/18/2018 4:33 AM
#help
eientei 6/18/2018 5:42 AM
>To top it all off, a debug build of the PC version is contained right there on your Diablo disc! Hidden in `DIABDAT.MPQ -> D1221A.MPQ -> DIABLO.EXE`. This build contains debug tools not found in the retail game, and many assert strings giving away code information.
5:43 AM
https://github.com/galaxyhaxz/devilution
galaxyhaxz/devilution
devilution - Diablo devolved - magic behind the 1996 computer game
punk7890 6/18/2018 6:08 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1008652614358073344
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a colorful debug menu in Aces of War (PS2) https://t.co/sJEo5uO1dA This contains your standard debug menu options. Sound tests, level select, toggle debug info on, and a game mode selector are all here.
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6:08 AM
Dezent 6/18/2018 6:09 AM
That's pretty colourful
6:09 AM
Nice work
Nex 6/18/2018 6:11 AM
a debug menu a day keeps the punk away
leilei 6/18/2018 6:12 AM
that's a good conformance screen
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/18/2018 6:25 AM
nice!
6:29 AM
That debug screen similar to thisone: https://tcrf.net/Diorama_Sensen_Ijounashi
Diorama Sensen Ijounashi
6:30 AM
maybe some other games developed by Marionette has debug screen? (edited)
punk7890 6/18/2018 6:40 AM
ah yeah, probably do
6:41 AM
there also is an uncalled function in this game that calls that debug menu as well.
6:41 AM
probably was linked to boot, but I just made the code change the game mode to enter the debug menu. The uncalled function does the same thing, basically. (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/18/2018 9:31 AM
9:31 AM
I found debug mode in Myst PS1.
eientei 6/18/2018 9:31 AM
Nice
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/18/2018 9:36 AM
Thank you!
Dezent 6/18/2018 10:04 AM
Good work
2
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/18/2018 10:35 AM
Myst debug menu other page (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/18/2018 10:36 AM
lol cryptic
10:39 AM
ateast ENDI and ABOT, MUSIC, SE, Exit is what I think it is
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/18/2018 10:40 AM
yeah, and "MYST" is probably book or island related menu.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/18/2018 10:41 AM
ENDIng, ABOuT…
10:42 AM
maybe click and see what happens :p
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/18/2018 10:43 AM
These menu doesn't work. only Exit is work.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/18/2018 10:43 AM
owo
blueskyrunner 6/18/2018 10:53 AM
I once found some weird debug-ish thing in the Saturn version of Myst, but I think it was only a fluke, I could never get it to work again
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/18/2018 10:57 AM
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/MYST
MYST
『MYST』（ミスト）は、アメリカのパソコン用ソフトメーカー「Cyan」が作ったパズルアドベンチャーゲーム。さまざまなプラットフォーム向けに移植されている。CGプリレンダリングで製作された静止画や...
10:57 AM
セガサターン版では、最初の「ミスト島・発電室」に入ると動作が停止し、画面いっぱいにプログラム文が表示されるという不具合があった。これは初期に出荷された機種のみに発生する。
10:59 AM
Saturn version has bug, Display program text on whole of screen when enter to power room.
10:59 AM
I don't know it is related to debug.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/18/2018 11:06 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ maybe due to newer 68000
11:06 AM
there is the game later SS have bug
1
11:06 AM
due to how 68000 int works, rot issue
11:09 AM
IIRC Spacr harrier had problem
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 1:23 PM
were older 3ds games not released on the eshop? I can't find lego harry potter
Hiccup 6/18/2018 1:26 PM
There could be various reasons why physical games don't have eShop releases.
1:26 PM
I'm checking now to see if it was on the eShop at any point.
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 1:27 PM
how do you check that?
Hiccup 6/18/2018 1:28 PM
A 3dbrew user has some records of the CDN/eShop
1:31 PM
Its listed in the US and GB eshops as physical only.
1:31 PM
So its very unlikely to be on the CDN.
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 1:33 PM
huh, I guess it's a little harder to come by
1:33 PM
I was just gonna try to take a screenshot for it lol
1:34 PM
thank you though! (edited)
Netscape Navigator 6/18/2018 1:45 PM
yeah a lot of early releases were physical only
1:45 PM
it took about a year for all of Nintendo's first wave to come out on the eshop
1:45 PM
OOT 3D, MK7, SM3DL and Star Fox 3D
Hiccup 6/18/2018 3:00 PM
@AnkyloSource if you have CFW, you can dump the cart (or got the ROM elsewhere), convert it to CIA (using GodMode9 or whatever you like) and install it using FBI
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 3:02 PM
yea that's probably what I'll end up doing. for now I'm looking into a game I have easier access to
Hiccup 6/18/2018 3:08 PM
You can always use Citra and upload a "to be replaced" screenshot.
3:09 PM
Better than nothing, I guess.
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 3:58 PM
I'm hit with the big question
3:58 PM
do I want to trust binwalk that this file is zlib compressed and figure out how to decompress it?
3:58 PM
the answer is usually no, but this one looks more promising than most
4:04 PM
oh hey, binwalk can automatically extract that's awesome. also it actually was!
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 5:30 PM
is there any legal responsibility for someone to not read confidential info that's been leaked online? Like I know nintendo isn't going to come after me for reading a confidential power point, but if I really pissed them off somehow, would they have a leg to stand on?
Revenant 6/18/2018 5:30 PM
no
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 5:37 PM
I think I'm gonna start collecting this stuff then, it's pretty cool
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 8:08 PM
lol. first time finding a link to a youtube video hidden in a game
8:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVC6nlhU4-E
dynone
Boom Boxx Feat Linda O - Balla Da Li
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:09 PM
So anyone have any idea why Nintendo decided to make Majora's Mask lack of Exapnsion Pak error all textures?
8:09 PM
8:10 PM
the expansion pack doubled the ram which is required for some games
8:10 PM
I'm aware (edited)
8:11 PM
which version are you asking about first of all
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:11 PM
I'm not sure what you just asked.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:11 PM
that too
8:12 PM
why the text is stored as textures
8:12 PM
Yes thanks
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:12 PM
Oh.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:13 PM
I have no clue, it seems to be the US
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:13 PM
Heck if I know.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:13 PM
(or NTSC)
8:13 PM
because everything is stored as a texture including fonts
8:13 PM
everything is a textured polygon
Revenant 6/18/2018 8:13 PM
yes but normally you don't store the entire message in one texture which is what it looks like is happening
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:13 PM
or a textrerec
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:13 PM
What @Revenant said
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:14 PM
Just seems strange
Revenant 6/18/2018 8:14 PM
hence the weird text scaling
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:14 PM
its also easier to draw 2 polygons instead of 40 (edited)
8:14 PM
True
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:14 PM
Maybe some incorrect assumption about system state
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:14 PM
But it just looks so crappily made. (edited)
8:14 PM
many games did it
Revenant 6/18/2018 8:14 PM
it's not like the game didn't already have a way to display text
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:15 PM
Really?
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:15 PM
Or if it doesn't detect the pak it doesn't set anything up to display text properly
8:15 PM
It might do the check very early in boot and fail out immediately
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:15 PM
Well true
8:15 PM
in order for the text box system to work the game has to actually boot
8:16 PM
and the game has the rom chip packed already (edited)
8:16 PM
And this theoretical game pak detection function is done before font rendering functions.
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:16 PM
That's my theory
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:17 PM
But again, it just looks like some intern scanned a piece of black paper with white text and used that as the texture.
8:17 PM
Kind of sets off some OCD part of my mind.
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:17 PM
I guess they didn't expect many people to see it
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:17 PM
Its not a theory its well documented
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:18 PM
So they just slapped it together
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:18 PM
You guys know i mod zelda right
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:18 PM
@Deleted User: Oh, so I was right? Cool.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:20 PM
Also the n64 can do printf statements if that isnt shitty enough for you
8:21 PM
The game also much like oot is a 64dd conversion
8:22 PM
But by that time it was too late to make it run without the pak
8:22 PM
yeh .
8:23 PM
The game also doesnt have lod models (edited)
8:24 PM
Unlike oot
8:24 PM
In oot if you disable them the game still runs normally tho
8:26 PM
Also the Time function and some textures heavily relied on the expansion pak
8:26 PM
Unlike DK64 where it "patched" a bug
8:26 PM
Which, I also have to ask, has anyone fixed the DK64 memory leakage problem?
8:26 PM
It's still present on the Wii U version
8:27 PM
In oot they limited the texture size to 2kb because vram is shared
8:27 PM
With the pak in its still the case but theres more to work with
8:28 PM
Both used yaz0 to compress files
8:28 PM
What happens if you force boot MM without the expansion pak?
8:28 PM
But thats whole archives instead of independant textures
8:29 PM
if you force load it wont boot at all
8:30 PM
It will lock up
8:30 PM
Alright
8:30 PM
Also with the DK64 memory leak
8:30 PM
How would you go about patching it?
8:30 PM
Besides providing a bunch more memory
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:32 PM
If you try to force it to boot, it will try to read from memory that doesn't exist and trip an exception.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:32 PM
I dont know know much about rare games as they use use non standard libraries
8:32 PM
I see then
8:32 PM
And yes
8:33 PM
But on the screen it will just be black
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:33 PM
Right, it will hit the expection fairly early, no doubt.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:33 PM
But on a text console it would trip on a function that calls to memory?
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:34 PM
In theory the exception handlers should be set up by then
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:34 PM
Retail n64 has that feature locked
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:35 PM
But the debugger screens may not be available yet.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:35 PM
Tho some game reenables them
8:35 PM
More theoretical than anything.
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:35 PM
You can't "disable" exception handling, that's a feature of MIPS (edited)
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:36 PM
They can an did
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:36 PM
You can render it useless by pointing the handlers to infinite loops
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:36 PM
Its in the sdk
8:37 PM
Infinit loops are triggered by the lockout chip
8:37 PM
And the checksum
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:37 PM
An exception will ALWAYS be called by the processor. What happens after that is up to software.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:37 PM
Yes
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:38 PM
You can have the game lock up by pointing exceptions to "JMP $"
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:38 PM
So, since I'm here, how does the hardware and underlying aspects of the N64 work? Work as in what's the hardware, how it boots games, and the usual libraries used?
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:38 PM
Or you can jump to an actual handler
8:39 PM
But you can't disable exception handling on a MIPS processor.
8:40 PM
The N64 uses an NEC VR4300i CPU, and a vectorized R4000-based coprocessor called the RSP
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:40 PM
Give me one sec
8:40 PM
And thats correct
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:40 PM
It has 4MB of RAMBUS DRAM stock, expandable to 8MB with thr Expansion pack
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:41 PM
RAMBUS
8:41 PM
Correct
8:41 PM
I heard that somewhere before
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:41 PM
Since it's RAMBUS, either the Jumper Pak or Expansion Pak MUST be installed
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:41 PM
Yup, it's that shitty attempted to replace DDR
8:41 PM
lol
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:42 PM
Otherwise the memory signals cannot reach the termination resistors and signal reflections occur.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:42 PM
Why RAMBUS?
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:43 PM
RAMBUS was actually designed for consoles
8:43 PM
And was used in a number of them.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:43 PM
I mean it died out pretty young, and DDR won the fight.
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:43 PM
It's only real disadvantages are latency and cost
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:44 PM
Also using termination sticks for empty RAM slots
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:44 PM
Actually, it still exists to this day.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:44 PM
The n64s cpu has things disabled on a hardware level like soft reset (edited)
8:44 PM
Also what is the CPU clocked at?
8:44 PM
I assume single core as well
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:44 PM
A little under 100MHz
8:45 PM
Yes, single core.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:45 PM
Alright
8:45 PM
So how about the BIOS?
8:45 PM
N64 had a minimalistic os
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:45 PM
There's something called the "PIF" but no actual BIOS per se
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:46 PM
Didn't the DD have some sort of BIOS then?
8:46 PM
Something to have a RTC
8:46 PM
The 64dd has a bios
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:47 PM
Yes.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:47 PM
But only to boot the discs and tell games that it exists but it has graphics
8:47 PM
Mario running around an n64 logo
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:48 PM
More very minimalistic stuff.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:48 PM
They done it that way to let devs get down to the metal
8:49 PM
Which, yeah, that's completely understandable.
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:49 PM
And then didn't release the proper documentation to allow them to do it
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:49 PM
oh
8:49 PM
They did
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:49 PM
There's no docs on the RSP
8:49 PM
99% of games use the stock microcode
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:49 PM
But since it has been decades since, people have documented this stuff well?
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:50 PM
Factor 5 was the only one who figured it out and pushed it hard. (edited)
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:50 PM
There are some still protected under the nda and it really hard to grasp (edited)
8:51 PM
Seems like it
8:51 PM
Also, I wouldn't assume officially from any developers, just from unofficial sources and just studying the console.
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:51 PM
Nintendo has always been pretty shitty with their docs, especially for non-Japanese developers.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:51 PM
true
8:52 PM
they really trusted rare
8:52 PM
Well they let them make the DK64 game
8:52 PM
Seems like they had a lot of trust with them
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:52 PM
They had a long relationship together (edited)
cuba200611 6/18/2018 8:52 PM
Well, Rare was a 2nd-party of Nintendo back then...
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:52 PM
they had access to tools i dont even know about
8:53 PM
I would give it a half a decade to leak
8:53 PM
they even have their own microcode (renderer)
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:53 PM
Rare was always a 3rd Party
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:53 PM
@Neko May Rare abused microcodes for their n64 games
8:53 PM
also 2nd party*
8:53 PM
microcodes?
8:53 PM
rare became second party after dkc (edited)
8:53 PM
you mean dkc right
8:54 PM
just corrected myself
8:54 PM
during dkc's production they bought a 45% stake in their property
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:54 PM
That's right
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:54 PM
sucks they didnt buy them out though
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:54 PM
I wonder how that fell apart
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:54 PM
microcodes were basically apis for the n64
8:54 PM
Seems like it went downhill after StairFax Temp... I mean Starfox Adventures.
8:55 PM
yeah
8:55 PM
we got a half baked conker reboot
8:55 PM
microshaft bought rare (edited)
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:55 PM
Microcode dictated how the RSP behaved
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:55 PM
Alright then
8:55 PM
So what are common libraries used for the N64?
8:55 PM
gcc
8:55 PM
niff
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:56 PM
The C Standard Library
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:56 PM
thats covered by gcc
8:56 PM
So essentially C standard stuff
8:56 PM
quick question: how fast is the RSP?
8:56 PM
i know r4300i is around 98 MHz
8:56 PM
And C++ (edited)
8:56 PM
it was the most powerful consumer gpu at the time
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:56 PM
@Deleted User: I think it's clocked at 2/3 the CPU
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:57 PM
More powerful than the PS1?
8:57 PM
Yes
8:57 PM
Sort of frustrating Nintendo didn't go with CDs during the time
8:57 PM
oof
Neko May 6/18/2018 8:58 PM
By insane length
Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:58 PM
huh
8:58 PM
doing math the RSP is 65.3 MHz
8:59 PM
It actually had a mode that renderered ps1 level stuff
8:59 PM
sheesh sony
9:00 PM
I guess history is frustrating.
Neko May 6/18/2018 9:00 PM
The RSP could run rings around the PS1
Deleted User 6/18/2018 9:00 PM
But devs werent allowed to use it
9:00 PM
i find it sad an overclocked Super FX chip (GSU1 and MARIO CHIP) can hit 60 MHz and be faster than the PS1
9:00 PM
Ran 4 times better
9:01 PM
Did Nintendo have a reason to?
9:01 PM
To not allow developers to use that mode
9:01 PM
guys could mario 64 run on only the RSP
Neko May 6/18/2018 9:01 PM
Factor 5's custom microcode just whipped the hell out of everything of that era.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 9:01 PM
half-serious question
9:01 PM
They wanted non blocky graphics
Neko May 6/18/2018 9:01 PM
It could do 640x480
Deleted User 6/18/2018 9:01 PM
What about Perfect Dark? (edited)
9:01 PM
What did that use?
9:02 PM
perfect dark is a good example of good graphics
Neko May 6/18/2018 9:02 PM
PD0 is an XBox game.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 9:02 PM
But laggy gameplay.
9:02 PM
Sorry
9:02 PM
heck hi-res makes the game tank with the detail they put in
9:02 PM
Perfect Dark
9:02 PM
yeah
9:03 PM
Pefect dark used a modified f3dex2 microcode
9:03 PM
i own a legit copy with a real n64 and this game lags like hell when there's like 5 enemies all trying to kill you
9:04 PM
from what i know of
9:04 PM
Most games lagged
9:04 PM
CBFD didnt do anything fancy with the expansion pak (edited)
9:04 PM
i think it used it for extra ram and thats it
9:04 PM
Cbf didntuse it at all
9:04 PM
oh
9:04 PM
Only a few games used it for better textures
9:05 PM
Only DK64 and MM required it
9:05 PM
Your thinking of a pj64 bug
9:05 PM
i guess that explains the lag in 4P deathmatch
9:05 PM
pj64?
9:05 PM
project 64
9:05 PM
uh
9:05 PM
its an emulator
9:05 PM
lmao
9:05 PM
oh oof
9:05 PM
Eh mind machine broke
9:06 PM
rip
9:06 PM
for that second
9:06 PM
My pc is over heating
9:06 PM
But uh yeah, which pj64 bug?
9:06 PM
one that lets you hog extra ram in games that didn't need it
9:06 PM
The one where most games only boot in 8mb mode
9:07 PM
also is SSB64 super horrible in it's coding because why does the game lag with so few polygons in 4p matches (edited)
9:08 PM
because og the giant texture use in jpeg mode (edited)
9:08 PM
ew
9:08 PM
jesus set the RSP to ps1 mode then
9:08 PM
the n64 can actually use jpegs as textures (edited)
9:08 PM
but it hogs RSP/CPU cycles
9:09 PM
re2 used it for fmvs
9:09 PM
and backgrounds
9:09 PM
oh yeah
9:11 PM
i remember a dev article telling us how to do fmvs
9:11 PM
at a time when people either jumped ship or were moving to pj dolphin (edited)
9:12 PM
what coding beast did conker use for the voice acting
9:12 PM
i heard they're super compressed mp3's
9:13 PM
Not sure
9:14 PM
Factor 5 handled most things like that
9:16 PM
copyright screen talks about "miles sound system"
9:16 PM
multiple times too
9:17 PM
Probably another sound studio
9:18 PM
My pc keeps overheating
9:19 PM
uhh
9:19 PM
check the cooling stuff on it
9:20 PM
not the heatsink but the gel thing
9:20 PM
Its the 90 degree weather rn
9:20 PM
oh
9:20 PM
nice
9:20 PM
Getting fried at room temperature
9:20 PM
also the official site for the miles sound system says this: `and highly-optimized audio decoders (MP3, Ogg and Bink Audio).`
9:21 PM
guess the butchered MP3 stuff makes sense now
9:21 PM
It is possible since they modified the graphics code
9:26 PM
ogg is also glorified opensource mp3
9:26 PM
not the same but has the same features (edited)
9:29 PM
also what the hey is this
9:29 PM
GerbilSoft 6/18/2018 9:30 PM
https://yls8.mtheall.com/ninupdates/reports.php?date=06-18-18_08-00-36&sys=ctr
9:30 PM
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
9:30 PM
3DS 11.7
Deleted User 6/18/2018 9:30 PM
mp3
9:30 PM
oh
9:30 PM
whens that
9:30 PM
@GerbilSoft
9:30 PM
Rare used microcode for mp3 decode in Conker
9:30 PM
like
9:30 PM
right now
GerbilSoft 6/18/2018 9:31 PM
yes
9:31 PM
https://gist.github.com/ihaveamac/2994b64bab554973e3c43fecd2f24a0a
gist:2994b64bab554973e3c43fecd2f24a0a
9:31 PM
looks like it's just gdpr-related bullshit
DarthDubඞ 6/18/2018 9:31 PM
miiverse icon removed?
Deleted User 6/18/2018 9:32 PM
if its not ill laugh
9:33 PM
well guys i'm officially killing my 3ds
Neko May 6/18/2018 9:33 PM
Oooh, Midnight Lycanroc. <3
Deleted User 6/18/2018 9:33 PM
im glad i emulate
9:33 PM
it's gonna lag like fuck when i play sun/moon
9:34 PM
because old 3ds
Dos 6/18/2018 9:36 PM
all the best programmers are secretly pokemon
9:36 PM
i remember Sun/Moon running much better than X/Y did on o3DS
Deleted User 6/18/2018 9:36 PM
huh.
9:36 PM
nintendos dev interaction is... very japanese (edited)
9:36 PM
on o3ds for me x/y didnt lag much
9:37 PM
as in they think the consumer including devs dont know that they want
9:38 PM
is it just me or does it feel like luigi's mansion 3ds has a lot of hidden content (edited)
9:39 PM
So what's the point on having test assets in retail games' data?
Hugette Hikari 6/18/2018 9:40 PM
i thought you were talking about the remake for a second there
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 9:40 PM
pretty sure it's for bug fixing post release
9:45 PM
@Deleted User leftovers from development typically
9:46 PM
either laziness, or overlooked, or it might be risky to remove data in case it breaks something
9:46 PM
that last one was more common with older games that didn't have file systems, I believe.
9:51 PM
in the software submissions page it specifically says not to have unused stuff due to size constraints
9:54 PM
its more the case that the game requires a lot of modification to remove something (edited)
9:55 PM
especially a game that has hundreds of files
9:58 PM
it could also be laziness but chips were expensive back then
ArcadeStriker 6/18/2018 10:12 PM
eyy
10:13 PM
anyone here has played KI2?
divingkxt 6/18/2018 10:14 PM
Killer Instinct Gold.
ArcadeStriker 6/18/2018 10:16 PM
Killer Instinct Gold is pretty fun, never understood the hate for it
10:16 PM
but yeah, bringing up KI2 because of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTmqfT-WOPw&feature=youtu.be&t=2m43s
abystus
Killer Instinct Sprite Viewer Progress Update
10:16 PM
Its from 2015 but yeah
10:17 PM
abystus found those unused sprites
10:17 PM
Taunts and dominations (the char forcing someone to do something and...the char dancing)
10:17 PM
in other words, humillations from KI1
divingkxt 6/18/2018 10:17 PM
It's loathed because a lot what cut down for the small cart size and being an early N64 title.
10:18 PM
Also, there's illegal opcode weirdness galore on emulators.
ArcadeStriker 6/18/2018 10:18 PM
I found a good setup in PJ64 using glide64 napalm 1.22
10:18 PM
works fine on my laptop, runs fine, shows hitsparks and sky fine
Deleted User 6/18/2018 10:19 PM
glideN64 is way better for systems that can hande it (edited)
ArcadeStriker 6/18/2018 10:19 PM
Yeah...mine doesn't
10:19 PM
max on windows is ogl 3.1
10:19 PM
but 3.3 in linux
10:19 PM
i use windows though
Deleted User 6/18/2018 10:20 PM
theres $40 gpus that can handle it
10:20 PM
if you have a desktop
10:21 PM
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Profile-PCI-Express-R6450-MD1GD3-LP/dp/B004X6ABTM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1529374854&sr=8-1&keywords=ati+radeon+hd6450
ArcadeStriker 6/18/2018 10:21 PM
I live in venezuela though
10:22 PM
Livin' in low end :p
Deleted User 6/18/2018 10:22 PM
ah
ArcadeStriker 6/18/2018 10:22 PM
intel hd graphics, intel pentium b960
Deleted User 6/18/2018 10:22 PM
opengl 3.1 is still pretty good (edited)
10:23 PM
lakka can boot in usb only mode
10:24 PM
if you ever want to emulate in linux mode
10:24 PM
without touching you windows install
10:24 PM
saves are self contained on the usb
10:25 PM
you can also transfer files via samba
divingkxt 6/18/2018 10:25 PM
@ArcadeStriker You live in Venezuela?
10:25 PM
Mad props for somehow being a gamer there.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 10:26 PM
i got my mm cart from there
ArcadeStriker 6/18/2018 10:27 PM
eh, getting old games and some random new game that I can somehow run is my lifestyle
10:27 PM
thanks
Neko May 6/18/2018 10:42 PM
I'm friends with a furry artist in Venezuela
10:42 PM
I've got a piece from him I can't share here
10:42 PM
lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/18/2018 10:43 PM
punk7890 6/18/2018 10:43 PM
debug
Neko May 6/18/2018 10:43 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT: Problem?
AnkyloSource 6/18/2018 10:43 PM
I'm not convinced that's not the only word you know @punk7890
10:44 PM
you find so damn many lol
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/18/2018 10:44 PM
punk7890 6/18/2018 10:44 PM
Neko May 6/18/2018 10:44 PM
I'm actually getting another piece from him soon that I also can't share here.
10:44 PM
lol
punk7890 6/18/2018 10:44 PM
hacking at its finest
Neko May 6/18/2018 10:45 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT: I've got SFW art.
Lako 6/18/2018 10:45 PM
How hard is it to decompile a SWF file?
punk7890 6/18/2018 10:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-fFQH0iKM0
gmaster2647
[Music] Okami - Kamiki Village
Lako 6/18/2018 10:46 PM
Anything?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/18/2018 10:47 PM
ffdec is alright but the ui is questionable
Neko May 6/18/2018 10:47 PM
@Lako: #help is a better place to ask
Lako 6/18/2018 10:47 PM
Oh sorry.
Neko May 6/18/2018 10:47 PM
You're okay
10:48 PM
It's just so things don't get lost in the noise :3
Deleted User 6/18/2018 11:01 PM
@Lako there are commercial decompilers
11:02 PM
swf is so simple that it works quite well
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/18/2018 11:03 PM
time to search for debugs...
11:03 PM
tho ill have to take the easy route of code conversion which still turns out to be a bitch
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/18/2018 11:39 PM
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 11:41 PM
cool
11:42 PM
i assume the lower date is obviously the build date
11:42 PM
walktrough looks weird
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/18/2018 11:47 PM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/18/2018 11:48 PM
Japanese one
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/18/2018 11:48 PM
ye
11:48 PM
ill be honest, ive no clue what im even doing but as long as it works, wont complain
Deleted User 6/18/2018 11:49 PM
a lot of games start that way
11:55 PM
which game?
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/18/2018 11:55 PM
11:55 PM
hotel dusk 215
Deleted User 6/18/2018 11:56 PM
Also, real quick, I'm for some reason very curious about debug menus for arcade games
11:56 PM
Ever since that one 4D Konami game
11:56 PM
Dark Escape 4D it was called
eientei 6/18/2018 11:58 PM
Set the test switch on. Done.
Deleted User 6/18/2018 11:58 PM
http://bhmvending.com/amusements/namco/namco_dark_escape_4D.html
11:58 PM
If anyone has $33K, then go for it
12:03 AM
https://my.mixtape.moe/pscteh.pdf
12:03 AM
Here's the manual as well
divingkxt 6/19/2018 12:09 AM
>$30,000 for some gimmicky arcade machine? My wallet's too small.
DarthDubඞ 6/19/2018 12:10 AM
you just reminded me how poor i am
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 12:10 AM
I'm sorry. Are you telling me ".moe" exists and every weeb in the world isn't registering a domain with it (edited)
Revenant 6/19/2018 12:10 AM
who says they aren't
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 12:10 AM
My brother doesn't have a site, so that's 1/[every single one] that doesn't
divingkxt 6/19/2018 12:13 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.moe
.moe
The domain name moe is a top-level domain (TLD) in the Domain Name System of the Internet. Its name comes from the Japanese slang word moe, indicating its intended purpose in the marketing of products or services deemed moe.
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AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 12:14 AM
it's actually based on moe stuff wow
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/19/2018 12:15 AM
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 12:15 AM
nice font
Deleted User 6/19/2018 12:16 AM
But uhh yeah, cool arcade machine
12:16 AM
Gimmick, yeah
12:16 AM
But it's a fun gimmick none of the less.
DarthDubඞ 6/19/2018 12:16 AM
i mean i'd donate to a gofundme to get it
punk7890 6/19/2018 12:18 AM
debug menu
12:18 AM
yum
Revenant 6/19/2018 12:20 AM
http://420.moe
MOKE SWEED ERRDAY
ANIME AND WEED ALL U NEED
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eientei 6/19/2018 12:26 AM
https://youtu.be/DJfg39WkMvE
MowtenDoo
Blend W
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 12:44 AM
Do you guys remember that time I developed a game
12:44 AM
I successfully re-compressed the credits file and all was good. The "controls" file died on me though
eientei 6/19/2018 12:45 AM
Okay
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 12:45 AM
it has a debug key combo that you need a controller for and I want to enable it
12:45 AM
I might have to go force it in the code though (if it still exists)
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/19/2018 1:23 AM
hey, uh
1:23 AM
https://tcrf.net/Starbound
Starbound
1:23 AM
in the hidden developer message section
1:23 AM
`A developer's lament over changes in a Starbound mod can be found within the file penguin.species.`
1:23 AM
im confused if this is talking about modded starbound or base game (edited)
1:23 AM
Deleted User 6/19/2018 2:30 AM
So with arcade machines, couldn't you just befriend an arcade owner and have them allow you to dump some of their arcade machine ROMs?
2:30 AM
In terms of archiving newer games
eientei 6/19/2018 2:33 AM
It doesn't work like that
2:33 AM
Most arcade owners rent out the games
2:34 AM
Plus modern games are PC-based, meaning that you have to dump the HD and any applicalble ROMs
2:34 AM
Plus security dongles
Deleted User 6/19/2018 2:34 AM
True
eientei 6/19/2018 2:36 AM
[04:44:49] * Chris (Chris@58daf2.9c8f34.aceca3.142709) has joined [04:45:19] <Chris> I can't get the english IRC to work, so I figured I'd come here. [04:46:14] <Chris> It says if you want to make a account on The Cutting Room Floor, ask a administrator. [04:49:18] <Chris> I've found different versions and an early version of the Season 4 opening movie in Fortnite's cinematic folder. Since then, I've wanted to make a Fortnite article on TCRF and upload these videos but I can't, I need some help here. [05:07:45] * Chris has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) rip (in the #tcrf-jp IRC channel)
Neko May 6/19/2018 2:39 AM
Very modern PC-based arcade games also use always-online DRM
2:40 AM
Konami, particularly
eientei 6/19/2018 2:40 AM
Modern Atari arcade games are a common occurence on https://www.reddit.com/r/PBSOD/
r/PBSOD
2:41 AM
>Deal Or No Deal arcade machine. https://i.redd.it/ytbpx45y7nf01.jpg
Neko May 6/19/2018 2:42 AM
I love public computer errors.
eientei 6/19/2018 2:42 AM
https://i.redd.it/jjoy7d8l1w111.jpg This is that Atari machine
Neko May 6/19/2018 2:43 AM
Heehee
2:43 AM
It crashed in the kernel, too
eientei 6/19/2018 2:43 AM
2:43 AM
https://i.imgur.com/NcH6dth.jpg >emulator
Neko May 6/19/2018 2:44 AM
An ancient version of MAME
eientei 6/19/2018 2:44 AM
>M.A.M.E
2:45 AM
@Neko May Also "MaLa is a multi emulator front-end designed for all 32bit Windows operating systems."
Neko May 6/19/2018 2:45 AM
Heh
eientei 6/19/2018 2:48 AM
@Neko May https://www.reddit.com/r/PBSOD/search?q=arcade&restrict_sr=on
reddit.com: search results - arcade
r/PBSOD: Public Blue Screens of Death, computer crashes, etc.
Neko May 6/19/2018 2:58 AM
@eientei: Already there! :3
eientei 6/19/2018 2:58 AM
:3
eientei 6/19/2018 3:06 AM
https://twitter.com/forestillusion/status/1008640253014364161 Neat
Forest of Illusion (@forestillusion)
Prototype of an unreleased laptop-sized portable Super Nintendo shown at Shoshinkai 1993. The Bandai HET.
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Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/19/2018 4:51 AM
dongles
4:51 AM
actually p secure AES/RSA key
Uncanny 6/19/2018 5:36 AM
whoa, man it would be nice to have a clamshell snes now that i think about it
Halfbit 6/19/2018 8:35 AM
I love the PBSOD subreddit (edited)
eientei 6/19/2018 8:59 AM
For people who like Spore: https://archive.org/details/TheMakingOfSpore
MysticSageJosh 6/19/2018 9:31 AM
I like spore
9:31 AM
it's fun
FMecha 6/19/2018 9:54 AM
Added a common regional difference
9:54 AM
I know with Crash 3 it causes title music and sound effects to lose sync
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 9:58 AM
if i'm playing a pirated game where am I getting a manual with a customer service number
Δndrew P. 6/19/2018 10:00 AM
With Wipeout if you play it on a burned CD the game doesnt get past the loading screen that’s before the title
10:03 AM
At least that isn’t as alarming as the Anti-Modchip screens:
10:03 AM
FMecha 6/19/2018 10:04 AM
That's the NTSC-J ver, the NTSC-U gives a hotline IIRC
10:04 AM
What about PAL version though?
10:05 AM
This is US version of that screen, btw
Δndrew P. 6/19/2018 10:05 AM
Yeah
10:05 AM
Sometimes it has black text and its barely readable
10:06 AM
Dokodemo Issyo immediately shows the Anti-modchip screen right after the PlayStation license screen if you play it on pSX (psxfin). (edited)
10:07 AM
god i cannot spell anything today
FMecha 6/19/2018 10:11 AM
PAL systems gives a "stop" hand instead with no text, probably in attempt of language neutrality (hence why there's no text in PAL BIOS) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNGfPfF15ps
Naitoraven951
SCPH-7502 - strange modchip problem (libcrypt)
Δndrew P. 6/19/2018 10:26 AM
Yeah
Deleted User 6/19/2018 10:56 AM
I like those warning screens for some odd reason.
10:56 AM
Like, gives a sense of danger and stuff.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/19/2018 11:20 AM
I want mod ps2
11:20 AM
P:
11:20 AM
ny SS is modded
Δndrew P. 6/19/2018 12:34 PM
Modding a PS2 is worth it. The Slim PS2s are much easier to mod rather than the fat ones.
cuba200611 6/19/2018 1:05 PM
And MAME emulates one of those multicade boards that uses an old version of MAME - so it's metaemulation...
1:05 PM
@Δndrew P. It's actually the other way around...
1:05 PM
The late slims can't be softmodded.
Δndrew P. 6/19/2018 1:05 PM
I did the tape-tissue-straw mod and it was easier for me...
1:06 PM
The one I had was made in July of 2006
goat 6/19/2018 1:24 PM
if you get a slim ps2 that can take fmcb it is priceless
1:25 PM
s'like dang man lemme just connect to a smb share and play games forever
cuba200611 6/19/2018 1:30 PM
I own one of the late models - so it's either Swap Magic or a modchip for me...
Δndrew P. 6/19/2018 1:40 PM
I bought a mem card off of ebay that had mcboot. Buying one on ebay was an alternative and it was only like $8, so no big deal.
1:41 PM
It’s a 64MB mem card too
goat 6/19/2018 1:41 PM
fmcb is one of my favorite homebrew tools
Δndrew P. 6/19/2018 1:41 PM
Same
1:42 PM
Mine already came with the stuff like psxlauncher, ESR, etc.
1:42 PM
ESR is a lifesaver, as playing isos off of DVDs is the only good choice for me. I can’t stand USB 1.1 and getting a HDD for my PS2 is top expensive
goat 6/19/2018 1:42 PM
mmnm when i got mine it was when pcsx2 was well out of my reach and couldn't run Atlus games anyway
Δndrew P. 6/19/2018 1:44 PM
Ah
goat 6/19/2018 1:47 PM
i was running off a smb share and playing like, digital devil saga
LuigiBlood 6/19/2018 4:22 PM
the US text looks scary
ArcadeStriker 6/19/2018 4:27 PM
T E R M I N A T E D
GerbilSoft 6/19/2018 5:04 PM
5:04 PM
>8-drive RAID-0
5:04 PM
>one drive has failed
5:04 PM
press F to pay respects
Deleted User 6/19/2018 5:07 PM
i avoid raids because if one dies they all go down
GerbilSoft 6/19/2018 5:07 PM
only RAID-0
5:08 PM
RAID-1 and higher have redundancy
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 5:14 PM
I thought raid's entire purpose was to store stuff redundantly, didn't realize there was one without
ajshell1 6/19/2018 5:18 PM
I hope that wasn't yours @GerbilSoft
GerbilSoft 6/19/2018 5:19 PM
it wasn't
ajshell1 6/19/2018 5:19 PM
Thank goodness
5:19 PM
I pitty the poor sod who owned it though.
5:19 PM
That's why I use RAIDZ2.
5:19 PM
(AKA RAID6)
Trip Away 6/19/2018 5:21 PM
hello
5:23 PM
i finish edit Wandering Sin section of Bendy and the Ink Machine page
5:27 PM
its right how i made it? https://tcrf.net/Bendy_and_the_Ink_Machine#Wandering_Sin
Bendy and the Ink Machine
Deleted User 6/19/2018 5:46 PM
arch losers
5:46 PM
debian chads
cuba200611 6/19/2018 5:48 PM
Look, this is not the time to debate which distro is the best...
DarthDubඞ 6/19/2018 5:48 PM
linux mint cinnamon
Deleted User 6/19/2018 5:48 PM
Kali Linux
5:49 PM
Good for hackthebox.eu
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/19/2018 5:49 PM
(Archer)
Deleted User 6/19/2018 5:49 PM
pureos
5:50 PM
jk
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/19/2018 5:50 PM
O
5:50 PM
nds-bootstrap v0.9.1 released https://github.com/ahezard/nds-bootstrap/releases/tag/v0.9.1
ahezard/nds-bootstrap
nds-bootstrap - Boot an nds file
5:50 PM
+ save redir for (almost) all games
Deleted User 6/19/2018 6:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i8qabG3v7I
DGR
Animal Crossing's Debug Menu Found 15 Years AFTER Release | Glitch...
6:11 PM
anyone know how to use ctrtool
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/19/2018 6:14 PM
to open romfs?
Deleted User 6/19/2018 6:15 PM
i wouldnt know since its the first time ive heard the name (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/19/2018 6:15 PM
you can use 3ds-fuse
Deleted User 6/19/2018 6:18 PM
idk if i found the real deal , but i may have found the ROBLOX File From 2007 .
Deleted User 6/19/2018 6:28 PM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] thanks
eientei 6/19/2018 8:05 PM
@Deleted User ctrtool --romfsdir romfs file.3ds
Crusher Isran Chezzy 6/19/2018 9:18 PM
I have a question about soul silver, if I beat the elite four before getting Lugia with cheats. Does the flag of encountering Lugia with the ladies set to 1 even though I never triggered it legit? And are there suppose to be team rocket grunts in the whirl islands?
Neko May 6/19/2018 9:29 PM
Just remember that RAID is NOT an acceptable backup strategy!
9:30 PM
It won't protect you from viruses, malware, filesystem corruption, accidental deletion....
cuba200611 6/19/2018 9:30 PM
Aren't tapes used to backup servers?
Neko May 6/19/2018 9:30 PM
Yes
cuba200611 6/19/2018 9:30 PM
And some of them can hold a few TB of data.
Neko May 6/19/2018 9:31 PM
Yep
9:32 PM
LTO is the modern technology.
cuba200611 6/19/2018 9:34 PM
Drives are expensive - in the thousands, but it's a vital investment for those maintaining servers...
Neko May 6/19/2018 9:34 PM
Indeed.
cuba200611 6/19/2018 9:34 PM
The tapes themselves are like a hundred and fifty for 12 TB uncompressed. (edited)
9:35 PM
In comparison, a 12 TB hard drive costs several hundrend dollars.
eientei 6/19/2018 9:37 PM
If anyone wants a couple 500GB tapes, we're trying to sell them
Neko May 6/19/2018 9:37 PM
@eientei: Used them up? :P
eientei 6/19/2018 9:39 PM
Nope, blank and still sealed
9:39 PM
Sorry to disappoint :P
cuba200611 6/19/2018 9:42 PM
Speaking of tape drives, there's one for sale in a local pawn shop for about $150.
9:42 PM
And it's not an ancient one.
9:42 PM
Looks pretty modern - it uses SAS.
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 9:57 PM
I think I found a sprite that goes unused in the game I'm looking at, but I can't figure out for sure lol
9:57 PM
I don't remember seeing it and it doesn't get referenced from a quick gloss over, but still lol
Crusher Isran Chezzy 6/19/2018 10:02 PM
Theres a new pokemon discord, whats it called exactly? I could ask my soul silver question there.
Deleted User 6/19/2018 10:02 PM
After much procrastinating.... I'm finally dumping
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 10:02 PM
what game?
Deleted User 6/19/2018 10:02 PM
uh ,
10:03 PM
Redux
10:03 PM
Shin Megami Tensei
divingkxt 6/19/2018 10:04 PM
@Trip Away Sure, seems right mostly.
10:04 PM
Not sure why the easter egg graphic is also part of the gallery.
10:04 PM
Also, please make sure you include the game's name in each of the files' names.
Deleted User 6/19/2018 10:04 PM
Hm?
10:04 PM
Ah.
10:05 PM
Well...the plan was since I'm not confident enough to post I'll give it to a tcrf user to post in proxy
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/19/2018 11:42 PM
usually tcrf users want to post their own stuff
11:42 PM
you should really just post it all yourself
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/19/2018 11:43 PM
more often that not, shit gets found but is never documented out of boredom and/or laziness
Deleted User 6/19/2018 11:43 PM
^ that's me
11:43 PM
also lack of time
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/19/2018 11:44 PM
as much as id like to use that as an excuse, ive time but just cant spend it in smart ways
Deleted User 6/19/2018 11:47 PM
https://twitter.com/OtherEhm/status/923752255760814081
Ehm (@OtherEhm)
dummy models in Strange Journey Redux. top left Yuka, top right Kabe, bottom left Tobira, bottom right Takara
11:47 PM
There's also a full set of the original DS demon sprites leftover
11:48 PM
I hope you find something else because that's most of what I posted.
11:48 PM
There should be more
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/19/2018 11:48 PM
walls and doors
AnkyloSource 6/19/2018 11:51 PM
I'm making a text file of unused content and I'm waiting for it to reach critical mass so I'll be forced to document it
11:52 PM
whoops my discord didn't update. pretend my last message was like 4 or 5 comments ago
Trip Away 6/20/2018 12:12 AM
disturbing
MysticSageJosh 6/20/2018 12:13 AM
I'll wander where i want when i want
12:13 AM
I'll sin and do whatever
blueskyrunner 6/20/2018 12:28 AM
What's that from...?
eientei 6/20/2018 12:34 AM
Bendy and the Ink Machine I'm guessing
Trip Away 6/20/2018 12:45 AM
yup
Devann 6/20/2018 12:55 AM
HI TCRF people
12:56 AM
How are peoples today
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/20/2018 1:02 AM
good
1:02 AM
i'm slacking on updating pages
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/20/2018 1:04 AM
punk7890 6/20/2018 1:06 AM
hellお
AnkyloSource 6/20/2018 1:16 AM
I made some cut content work again
1:16 AM
soon I'll have to make a tcrf page
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 1:17 AM
hell-o @punk7890
punk7890 6/20/2018 1:18 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/20/2018 1:18 AM
goodbye
punk7890 6/20/2018 1:24 AM
:<
DeadlyDilemma 6/20/2018 1:38 AM
Would it be possible to add a bot that crawls tcrf to add links to wikipedia for a given game?
1:39 AM
Well i know technically its ez. I mean admin wise (edited)
leilei 6/20/2018 1:39 AM
but why?
1:40 AM
not every game is "notable" to make that worth it, and wikipedia's has had misinformation on its own
Revenant 6/20/2018 1:41 AM
wait are we talking about putting links to wikipedia in tcrf articles or something else
leilei 6/20/2018 1:41 AM
even tcrf's more reliable for old game release dates than wikipedia
goat 6/20/2018 1:42 AM
it'd be useful to grab wiki pages for non-wiki things, actually
1:42 AM
like for bootleg games, there's that bootleg game wiki
leilei 6/20/2018 1:42 AM
as trying to correct it on wp would probably lead to a vandalbot reverting and a citation needed on that your source isn't authoritive enough
1:43 AM
but that's getting into gripes
Deleted User 6/20/2018 2:37 AM
Hm
Deleted User 6/20/2018 2:49 AM
God. How do I even view most of the file formats
2:50 AM
Also I don't think ctrtool saved the movies and music but it saved the rest
2:51 AM
Folder named "Debug"
2:53 AM
Well. Got work so I'll head to bed but if anybody knows how to view .bf files, .mbm files or .tbb files could you tell me how (edited)
2:53 AM
As it stands this is my first attempt at data mining a game for unused or leftover content (edited)
2:55 AM
I assume its proprietary files
2:55 AM
So I'll probs not touch those
eientei 6/20/2018 4:40 AM
`Change 184527 on 2018/05/30 20:29:59 by rjohnston@rjohnston_Kinopio_S Kinopio-C/Demo - try to fix MCA END_LINE_CODE Pilot All`
4:40 AM
Nice
Hiccup 6/20/2018 5:22 AM
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker for Switch or 3DS?
eientei 6/20/2018 5:23 AM
3DS
5:23 AM
Got quite a bit of Lua and debug stuff
Hiccup 6/20/2018 5:24 AM
Neat. Its quite interesting that they've ported a "Galaxy engine" (edit: alternatively the "Jungle Beat engine", as it seems to have started there) game to 3DS (even if Photos with Mario technically predated it). (edited)
5:24 AM
Maybe SMM3DS ran on it too. (edited)
eientei 6/20/2018 5:25 AM
downloads to find out
Hiccup 6/20/2018 5:25 AM
That has a lot of lua (or something plain text) too.
eientei 6/20/2018 5:27 AM
>UIX
5:27 AM
Yup
Hiccup 6/20/2018 5:27 AM
Its a bit of a guess on my part that SMM uses the engine. Its just because it had Splatoon leftovers (Splatoon definitively used the engine). (edited)
eientei 6/20/2018 5:28 AM
Toad and Mario both have that UIX folder, so I'm willing to say they were built with the same framework
eientei 6/20/2018 5:42 AM
@Hiccup Interesting. `D:/home/jenkins/workspace/wup-ama/Pack/5129d543/OnlineCore/src/Platform/Core/MemoryManager.cpp`
5:42 AM
Specifically the `wup-ama` (edited)
Hiccup 6/20/2018 6:08 AM
Any idea what "ama" is meant to mean here?
eientei 6/20/2018 6:19 AM
Nop
itsblah 6/20/2018 6:31 AM
it probably means amazon as "wup-ama.app.nintendo.net" is a CNAME for smmb-game-1151858420.us-west-2.elb.amazonaws.com
Halfbit 6/20/2018 9:20 AM
When a game uses internal files (ex a GC game) If a cheat device changes a value inside a folder, does it technically affect that folders Last Modified date?
DeadlyDilemma 6/20/2018 9:32 AM
what is the most intense anti-piracy measure in a game?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 9:37 AM
@DeadlyDilemma definately switch
DeadlyDilemma 6/20/2018 9:38 AM
9:38 AM
I know the Earthbound anti-piracy measures are (in)famous
eientei 6/20/2018 9:43 AM
@Halfbit No
9:43 AM
Cheat devices change values in memory
9:43 AM
They do not modify the file in any way
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 9:48 AM
loves that anti-piracy measure
9:48 AM
but easy to avoid lol
9:53 AM
copier make dumb mistake like putting wrong amt of ram (edited)
9:54 AM
and they reports those ram area "correctly"
Trip Away 6/20/2018 10:32 AM
A homebrew special-made console can be a hit. (edited)
Hiccup 6/20/2018 11:07 AM
@Halfbit also, GC discs are read only and the GC disc filesystem doesn't have last-modified dates (edited)
GerbilSoft 6/20/2018 11:42 AM
nintendo's FST has barely any metadata
11:42 AM
rationale is probably "we want to save all the space for the game!"
11:42 AM
on wii they blew that excuse out of the water by reserving 1/32 of the disc for hashes
Hiccup 6/20/2018 11:42 AM
Some games like Luigi's Mansion (or maybe its just LM) have SVN data in the form of extra files. (edited)
11:43 AM
Just a fun fact
GerbilSoft 6/20/2018 11:43 AM
a few of them have stuff like that
11:43 AM
but that's not part of the fs itself
Hiccup 6/20/2018 11:43 AM
Indeed.
GerbilSoft 6/20/2018 11:43 AM
whereas something like ISO-9660 has a much more extensive directory structure
Hiccup 6/20/2018 11:43 AM
Some games also have built in dates, like Super Paper Mario.
11:43 AM
File modified dates would be useful. (edited)
GerbilSoft 6/20/2018 11:44 AM
ISO-9660 also has some ridiculous legacy stuff
11:44 AM
for example, encoding numbers in both little-endian and big-endian to avoid having to byteswap
Ketsuban 6/20/2018 11:46 AM
Galaxy brain: encode everything in both big- and little-endian at opposite ends of the data structure, so it's a palindrome. (edited)
Revenant 6/20/2018 11:58 AM
universe brain: encode everything as text
dokidoki 6/20/2018 12:40 PM
rockband 2 had symbols IIRC
Revenant 6/20/2018 12:50 PM
debug cymbals
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Neko May 6/20/2018 12:53 PM
lol
GerbilSoft 6/20/2018 1:03 PM
AnkyloSource 6/20/2018 1:03 PM
speaking of which, is it common for games built with c++ to have mangled function names as text in the game?
GerbilSoft 6/20/2018 1:04 PM
not too common
1:04 PM
that'd only happen if it's built with rtti and something actually uses the type name
AnkyloSource 6/20/2018 1:04 PM
is rtti maybe a feature of boost?
dokidoki 6/20/2018 1:05 PM
or if you build with assertions that add `__LINE__` `__FILE__`
1:05 PM
wait not function names then
1:05 PM
nvm
1:05 PM
I was re-ing one game and there were some function names coming from exception handling, not sure what they used though
AnkyloSource 6/20/2018 1:06 PM
I found something that unmangles to `typeinfo name for boost::_bi::bind_t<void, boost::_mfi::mf0<void, imf::Menu>, boost::_bi::list1<boost::_bi::value<imf::DebugListMenu*> > >` but I'm not sure if I can use that (or how I would go about doing anything with it at all)
1:06 PM
(it's a lot of text, just notice the `DebugListMenu` at the end and disregard the rest)
dokidoki 6/20/2018 1:11 PM
wouldn't you get typeinfo even for dynamic_cast and stuff like that?
AngrySonics 6/20/2018 2:27 PM
Cutting Some Steam Game Data...... Done!
AnkyloSource 6/20/2018 4:23 PM
I didn't realize tcrf let you put language data on your account
4:24 PM
that's pretty cool, now I just gotta learn another language
AnkyloSource 6/20/2018 5:25 PM
there's so much debug code in this game I feel like it's mocking my inability to RE it
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 5:50 PM
nice libboost
goat 6/20/2018 5:55 PM
you sohuld see the piracy thing on switch right now (edited)
5:55 PM
it encrypts and decrypts itself 32 times before running
Deleted User 6/20/2018 6:02 PM
32 times eh
6:02 PM
got a source for that? (edited)
goat 6/20/2018 6:39 PM
https://imgur.com/7YG8ivs i think this is it in ida?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 6:55 PM
LEL
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/20/2018 6:57 PM
whoa
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 6:59 PM
is this obs
goat 6/20/2018 6:59 PM
that's a paid piracy thing over on the switch right now
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 7:03 PM
@goat not useful, their os cracked.
goat 6/20/2018 7:04 PM
sx os isn't cracked yet
7:04 PM
it is already unable to run new games and fails to run homebrew, tho
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:06 PM
Card2 games
Deleted User 6/20/2018 7:06 PM
is this team xecuter's thing in ida (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 7:06 PM
lol
Deleted User 6/20/2018 7:07 PM
I highly advise against installing TX's OS on your Switch.
LuigiBlood 6/20/2018 7:07 PM
^
Deleted User 6/20/2018 7:07 PM
Piracy aside
7:07 PM
they have proven to be malicious in the past.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 7:08 PM
yea
7:08 PM
point "why not use hekate-ipl"
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/20/2018 7:08 PM
Like the gateway 3ds team but worse?
Deleted User 6/20/2018 7:08 PM
same team
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 7:08 PM
yea
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/20/2018 7:09 PM
I'm gonna guess they stole more source code without credits to the person that made the code again (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:10 PM
How was tx malicious
goat 6/20/2018 7:10 PM
they're the gateway team, and the gateway team was malicious
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:10 PM
Do you have proof
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/20/2018 7:11 PM
And much like they bricked 3dses, they'll most likely brick your switches as well
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:12 PM
Where do you get your info?
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/20/2018 7:13 PM
Other people most likely, but surely you remember people losing their shit after gateway started bricking 3dses
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:13 PM
Gateway clones bricked
goat 6/20/2018 7:13 PM
yeah that was the gateway payload causing it,though
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/20/2018 7:14 PM
Because gateway team didn't want people using unofficial carts, so they added code to their firmware to lock the nand if it was being used on a non-gateway cart (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:14 PM
Goat where did you get your info that tx is gateway
7:14 PM
So silent lol
Deleted User 6/20/2018 7:15 PM
someone's defensive
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:15 PM
Im asking for sources is that too much to ask
Deleted User 6/20/2018 7:15 PM
can't even wait for a response.
goat 6/20/2018 7:15 PM
wow, you're right! i must be sweating, and not actually doing other things at the same time
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:16 PM
Or you can say hey sorry im busy
7:16 PM
Thwts what i do
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/20/2018 7:16 PM
or you could back off a bit
Wumbo 6/20/2018 7:16 PM
Maybe they didn't have the time to do that
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/20/2018 7:16 PM
goat 6/20/2018 7:16 PM
no. i actually can't. because i was doing things that took me away from the keyboard.
Wumbo 6/20/2018 7:16 PM
What if it was an emergency?
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:16 PM
But they had time to make speculation
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 7:16 PM
hekate-ipl
goat 6/20/2018 7:17 PM
the only thing i know that's concrete is that the current tx is not the old tx
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:17 PM
If peoples switches brick from it let me know
goat 6/20/2018 7:18 PM
you can't really brick a switch unless you do some extremely inane shit
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:18 PM
I'm just observing from the shadows
7:18 PM
No i mean the people trying to crack sx os
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/20/2018 7:18 PM
not very well
goat 6/20/2018 7:20 PM
the only thingi know of that the sx os payload could possibly do to crack a switch would be to blow every efuse available
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/20/2018 7:21 PM
sounds crazy
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:22 PM
Noone's actually done that yet so its just speculation at this point wait and see if its true or not
7:22 PM
Well maybe one person has
Deleted User 6/20/2018 7:22 PM
https://twitter.com/david3141593/status/1008863171107573760
David Buchanan (@David3141593)
@naehrwert Whaaaaat, the data section contains this gameboy demo rom: https://t.co/ELE17lXGsd (I think it's this one, at least)
7:22 PM
https://twitter.com/0x7bdf/status/1008865541627363328
AJ Ringer (@0x7bdf)
@David3141593 @naehrwert Weird Gateway did the exact same thing.
7:22 PM
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 6/20/2018 7:23 PM
There really is no point in "backup loading" on the switch when Nintendo finally did with the switch that they failed to do on the 3ds, actual anti-piracy checks to ensure the game is legit, and failing that your console and account will be banned
goat 6/20/2018 7:23 PM
there's a reason, but there's no reason to pay for it
7:24 PM
:V pick up a switch someone got banned and use it for local/single player
7:28 PM
so to get more on topic, there's plenty of opportunity to mess with stuff right now without being banned. for example, hyrule warriors uses the same format as the 3ds version but it has an additional set of weapons/character entries
7:29 PM
skyrim switch can have its hyrule.esm dumped now
Deleted User 6/20/2018 7:34 PM
oooh
goat 6/20/2018 7:39 PM
how's morrowind 2 comin' dude
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 7:48 PM
anybody familiar with the NES game "casino kid"? I'm wondering if there's any unused leftovers from the famicom version, they seem to have done a pretty good job scrubbing out the sprites for the stuff that was cut from the localization
7:49 PM
which is a bit surprising considering that the developers don't seem to have any actual stake or prior experience to that game in the video game market
blueskyrunner 6/20/2018 7:54 PM
I know of it, but I'm not intimately familiar with it, outside of knowing the US version was pretty different
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 7:54 PM
yeah, it was a licensed game in japan based off of some obscure manga I've been unable to find, and a ton was cut from the US version
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:55 PM
I could probably check later today
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 7:55 PM
thank you, probably not gonna turn up anything but it's worth a shot to look
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 7:56 PM
Mind you i havent used a tile program in forever
7:56 PM
Tile layer pro is good right?
7:56 PM
(Man im old)
susieq 6/20/2018 7:58 PM
i use YY-CHR myself but that should be fine
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 7:59 PM
one of my goals is to somehow get or make a translation of the famicom version, since it's the "definitive" edition
7:59 PM
and the gameplay portion is already in english, it's just the script that needs translation
blueskyrunner 6/20/2018 8:18 PM
The translation of the English version is pretty quirky, though
8:19 PM
Not a bad thing, mind, just making a note
8:19 PM
Also, wow! Didn't know it was a liscensed game!
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 8:36 PM
yeah, the manga it's based on is extremely obscure, there's only a couple chapters of it online
blueskyrunner 6/20/2018 8:39 PM
Huh
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 8:40 PM
from what i can tell, a few cutscenes, several NPCs, two entire casinos, the slot machine and roulette games, as well as the central plot has been removed or replaced with something else
blueskyrunner 6/20/2018 8:41 PM
There was only one casino in the NES version, wasn't there?
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 8:42 PM
yeah, just the one, there's two extra ones in the japanese version
blueskyrunner 6/20/2018 8:53 PM
Wow
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 8:54 PM
Hey hugo dm me so when i get on my pc i'll have a notification
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 8:55 PM
gotcha
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 8:56 PM
Thanks
8:56 PM
I tend to forget things
Stewie1.0 6/20/2018 9:40 PM
@divingkxt Those images i uploaded were originally jpg. The page they're even says so
divingkxt 6/20/2018 9:40 PM
OK then.
9:40 PM
Will re-tag them.
old acc! inactive 6/20/2018 10:26 PM
Captain Toad port has Wii U leftovers
10:26 PM
and nobody was surprised
divingkxt 6/20/2018 10:29 PM
OFC
AnkyloSource 6/20/2018 10:30 PM
we'll be seeing the exact same tweet about sma5h in a few months
blueskyrunner 6/20/2018 10:38 PM
Just watch: there will be a few characters not announced before release and people are gonna know about them the second the game's out before anyone can ever be surprised by unlocking them naturally
10:38 PM
Calling it now
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 10:38 PM
sakurai traditionally doesn't announce every character before release
10:39 PM
and of course it'll happen
AnkyloSource 6/20/2018 10:39 PM
I think they've learned their lesson to not put characters in the demo at least
10:39 PM
so we'll be safe a biiiit longer
Hugette Hikari 6/20/2018 10:39 PM
it might even happen before release again, somebody wanting to fill the ESRB leaker's shoes might step up and leak it all again
Deleted User 6/20/2018 10:40 PM
So. Is it me or is TX more antagonistic than ever
10:41 PM
Oh. And.... @Deleted User how were you able to view files from a dump of Redux (edited)
AnkyloSource 6/20/2018 10:55 PM
4 mysterious and changing bytes at the beginning of compressed data and I never considered that they were the size of the uncompressed data
goat 6/20/2018 11:24 PM
okay, now that OS is cracked
Neko May 6/20/2018 11:24 PM
?
goat 6/20/2018 11:25 PM
the s os, the paid piracy solution for the switch that uses free, open source methods and has drm + licensing + a $30 entry fee
Neko May 6/20/2018 11:25 PM
Ah, good, glad someone cracked it.
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 11:27 PM
guess we'll watch efuses blow
goat 6/20/2018 11:27 PM
nope. there isn't anything in the payload blowing fuses.
DarthDubඞ 6/20/2018 11:27 PM
that's good to know
Deleted User 6/20/2018 11:42 PM
open source and drm shouldn't be allowed to be in the same sentence (edited)
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MysticSageJosh 6/20/2018 11:43 PM
isn't that kind of an oxymoron?
11:43 PM
"a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction"
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/20/2018 11:44 PM
@Deleted User opensource the "engine" but DRM on gamefile
MealwormJim 6/21/2018 12:21 AM
well to be fair, Brawl had character data for unreleased characters... which ended up never being released (edited)
Khangaroo 6/21/2018 1:23 AM
https://twitter.com/Khangarood/status/1009663660803874817
Khangaroo (@Khangarood)
nice weather
1:23 AM
so splatoon 2 has a test map in it
1:24 AM
people on /r/splatoon told me it looks like bigger inkblot
1:24 AM
i could only load it on octo expansion
1:24 AM
no way in hell i'm loading this online
CheetahPixie 6/21/2018 2:10 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Prototype-Old-iMac-Motherboard/252927400660?hash=item3ae3a5dad4:g:0L8AAOSwurZZENAG Heads the hell up folks.
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punk7890 6/21/2018 2:59 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1009692193269809152
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a few debug menus & displays in Growlanser II: The Sense of Justice (PS2) https://t.co/sjSta1HUNK These mostly contain several sound test menus. It also has a movie viewing test menu as well.
2:59 AM
4
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cutienights 6/21/2018 2:59 AM
ayy
3:02 AM
nice find my dude @punk7890
Neko May 6/21/2018 3:02 AM
The Scents of Justice
punk7890 6/21/2018 3:03 AM
thx
Neko May 6/21/2018 3:07 AM
@cutienights: They do this literally all the time. At least once a day.
3:07 AM
Yet it's still awesome every time. :3
cutienights 6/21/2018 3:07 AM
;P
Neko May 6/21/2018 3:08 AM
wags tails, smiles :3
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 4:19 AM
lpl @punk7890 Father…
4:20 AM
@Neko May hi
Deleted User 6/21/2018 5:08 AM
wwww
punk7890 6/21/2018 5:18 AM
お父様
CheetahPixie 6/21/2018 5:53 AM
so
5:53 AM
curious
5:53 AM
does anyone have a top gear 3000 proto or details?
CheetahPixie 6/21/2018 6:21 AM
oh
6:22 AM
that board is the real deal; I can tell on the wifi adapter and what it says. Also a diff shape of shield to retail.
6:22 AM
Late 2006 iMac polycarb.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 6:50 AM
"Father…" would be correct tr
6:50 AM
but shrugs
CheetahPixie 6/21/2018 7:37 AM
also sticker situation
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 9:00 AM
also Soundtest
Xkeeper 6/21/2018 12:36 PM
http://rohija.xkeeper.net/timer/
cuba200611 6/21/2018 12:39 PM
What's this?
Nex 6/21/2018 12:40 PM
tcrf is running out of disk space
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 12:45 PM
Lol
Netscape Navigator 6/21/2018 12:53 PM
have you tried deleting temporary internet files
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 12:54 PM
lel
AnkyloSource 6/21/2018 12:57 PM
lol I was just gearing up to write my first page, rip!
12:58 PM
now i have incentive to find an internship asap
Xkeeper 6/21/2018 12:59 PM
@Netscape Navigator yes, actually. repeatedly
12:59 PM
if you check the munin graphs (not possible as the server is offline atm) you'll notice that the disk usage has been at 99% for basically the last several months
12:59 PM
as i've scoured around trying to find random shit i can delete from the server
AceKombat 6/21/2018 1:17 PM
Anyone here familiar with From Software titles (in the BGM side of stuff) from around and before 2000?
1:19 PM
There is leftover/unused music held in Armored Core 2 (also in the update title Another Age). Of the 4 PSF2s present in both Armored Core 2 and Armored Core 2 Another Age, 001.PSF2 is a leftover from Eternal Ring (Soulus Part 2). That leaves 002.PSF2 with unknown origin.
Rena 6/21/2018 1:24 PM
Hm, what unreleased characters did brawl have?
f(x)^3 6/21/2018 1:31 PM
So what do we do when tcrf runs out?
Hiccup 6/21/2018 1:32 PM
Get more space. (edited)
AceKombat 6/21/2018 1:33 PM
Panic
Hiccup 6/21/2018 1:42 PM
Free up some space by getting rid of data that isn't used.
AnkyloSource 6/21/2018 1:42 PM
1:43 PM
can we make a tcrf for tcrf
Hiccup 6/21/2018 1:44 PM
You can view the revisional differences by clicking on a page's history tab.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/21/2018 1:54 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:PkmnGS-EarlyTitle.gif
File:PkmnGS-EarlyTitle.gif
1:54 PM
theres bout 5 MB's worth of shit here that can be delted
Hugette Hikari 6/21/2018 2:05 PM
@Rena they weren't unreleased characters, just leftover data files for characters that were scrapped during development. iirc they were mewtwo (who is the most complete), roy, dr mario, dixie kong, toon zelda/sheik, and whatever "pra_mai" (the name of this character) is supposed to be
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/21/2018 2:13 PM
plusle and minun
blueskyrunner 6/21/2018 2:14 PM
That's only assumed
2:14 PM
We don't actually know for sure, there's not enough there to know for sure
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/21/2018 2:15 PM
i dont see what else it could be
Revenant 6/21/2018 2:17 PM
プラ(スル) and マイ(ナン) seems pretty obvious to me
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/21/2018 2:23 PM
>In a Nintendo Power Article, Sakurai said that “Ridley would be impossible”, “very slow”,and that the team would have to work very hard in order to make him work as a playable character.
2:23 PM
Laenthor 6/21/2018 2:46 PM
Yay! No more of this semi-functionnal tool!
goat 6/21/2018 3:34 PM
oh hey, devmenu on switch is now accessible
Laenthor 6/21/2018 3:46 PM
woot!
3:47 PM
Can't wait to be able to load game dumps!
goat 6/21/2018 4:07 PM
you already can, you're just likely to be banned
leilei 6/21/2018 4:17 PM
crush off every png
4:17 PM
for great justice
LexiMax 6/21/2018 6:37 PM
Yo, where do DOS grognards hang out?
6:38 PM
I'd be nice to have someplace where I could ask questions about 16-bit DOS assembler
Dos 6/21/2018 7:31 PM
Ironically, do not look at me.
7:31 PM
Saxxonfox on Twitter may be knowledgeable
eientei 6/21/2018 7:57 PM
Probably #help is where to ask
Halfbit 6/21/2018 8:19 PM
Hewwo
MysticSageJosh 6/21/2018 8:35 PM
Borks
Deleted User 6/21/2018 8:35 PM
BONK .
punk7890 6/21/2018 8:55 PM
Yeshh. This game has lotsa debug (edited)
1
8:56 PM
8:56 PM
8:58 PM
wonder if this stuff is in the USA disc set
AnkyloSource 6/21/2018 9:00 PM
oh great punk, bless me with the powers to enable debug mode on games
NickGemini12 6/21/2018 9:00 PM
Evening, There's a game that needs to be checked for unused stuff
MysticSageJosh 6/21/2018 9:00 PM
..what is it
NickGemini12 6/21/2018 9:01 PM
Shaq-Fu. It's been confirmed in an article, It was originally made without Shaq in mind. & Had unused graphics too
9:01 PM
The original 1994 Game
9:01 PM
I seen in an old article, An unused cutscene pic
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 9:08 PM
@punk7890 `Execute Intro Macro (Face Effect Check) Menu-relative check Debug setting Normal dungeon check Sound/Face graphic check Unit check Simple-City check Takada check BattleDebug check Koeda check Matsuda check`
punk7890 6/21/2018 9:10 PM
Ah thanks. I wasn't expecting a translation! I'll save them for later for when I add this to TCRF. Thanks! There's a ton more, however.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 9:10 PM
@punk7890 also for first debug screen `Debug font color Debug font ON Show axis OFF Show magic ON Fast Cast OFF prohibit scroll ON force scroll OFF Performance Meter OFF`
9:11 PM
Permormance meter looks interesting owo
9:12 PM
@punk7890 also for "Normal Dungeon", maybe English is not correct, It means "general purpose dungeon" sorry
9:12 PM
lazy to edit tbh
punk7890 6/21/2018 9:12 PM
it is indeed interesting
9:13 PM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] That's fine. Thanks for the translations!
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 9:13 PM
yeah hit me.up with DM if you want (crude) translations
punk7890 6/21/2018 9:14 PM
Sounds good. I'll notify you when I make the page for the game.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 9:14 PM
mk
9:14 PM
I'm sure I want to look into debug menu
9:14 PM
but tbh I think all of my game is well documented
punk7890 6/21/2018 9:15 PM
what games?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 9:15 PM
Megadrive games
punk7890 6/21/2018 9:15 PM
ah
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 9:15 PM
I can't disasm really
punk7890 6/21/2018 9:15 PM
I don't know anything about Megadrive stuff, so I can't help there.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/21/2018 9:16 PM
yet I know how to disable TMSS lol
9:17 PM
or clear TMSS lockdown
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/21/2018 9:26 PM
@punk7890 nice find!
punk7890 6/21/2018 9:40 PM
thanks
Deleted User 6/21/2018 10:06 PM
im up real mario tennis hours
AnkyloSource 6/21/2018 11:22 PM
Have you guys ever seen html generated by nintendoware stuff?
11:22 PM
I didn't know that was a thing
divingkxt 6/22/2018 1:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pQ1bZyCX54&feature=youtu.be Time to get that Sonic the Fighters debug mode enabled and documented for TCRF.
Steve Blockhead
Sonic The Fighters - Debug Mode Showcase
eientei 6/22/2018 6:52 AM
Sonic The Fighters: The Movie: The Game
punk7890 6/22/2018 7:32 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1010122678353530882
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a large debug menu in Growlanser III: The Dual Darkness (PS2) https://t.co/Bh6GKbQIw3 This contains, well, pretty much everything you can think of. Sound tests, level select, debug information, party editors, graphic viewing options and plenty more.
7:32 AM
4
Dezent 6/22/2018 7:41 AM
Nice
punk7890 6/22/2018 7:44 AM
thanks
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/22/2018 7:46 AM
@punk7890 time to work om trrrrr
7:47 AM
should I?
7:47 AM
on tr*
punk7890 6/22/2018 7:47 AM
idk, probably not worth it. This menu is too big for me to document. Thanks for the offer though.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/22/2018 7:47 AM
hm
punk7890 6/22/2018 7:47 AM
it has many sub menus not shown
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/22/2018 7:47 AM
I got plenty of time tbh
7:48 AM
sadly I don't have game :(
punk7890 6/22/2018 7:48 AM
that is troubling
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/22/2018 7:48 AM
so i can translate what i see, but i can't see those menu and document
punk7890 6/22/2018 7:49 AM
hmm let me fetch some more than
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/22/2018 7:49 AM
(yet still where you want is good
punk7890 6/22/2018 7:58 AM
ok here is all of the sub menus I could see
growlanser_3.zip
4.31 MB
7:58 AM
screenshots of them
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/22/2018 7:58 AM
added pass-1 of japanese all debug menu you listed (edited)
punk7890 6/22/2018 7:59 AM
cool, thanks for the help
7:59 AM
I'm going to head out, cya. I'll add those pictures to tcrf later
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/22/2018 7:59 AM
mm
8:00 AM
https://i.imgur.com/KVJQdeL.png
8:00 AM
Lol
eientei 6/22/2018 8:06 AM
>The PAL release of the game contains a folder with 5 Microsoft Word files from Nintendo's Lot Check process. lol
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/22/2018 8:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/MHlQrzA.png
8:07 AM
Hmmmmmm
8:07 AM
PACK4,,,
8:09 AM
aaaah procyon...
8:09 AM
looks at SMDL format
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/22/2018 8:36 AM
oh yeah
8:37 AM
ppmd works
FMecha 6/22/2018 8:39 AM
Chris Benoit double-murder suicide will turn 11 years this weekend, so let's remember that SmackDown vs RAW 2008 had Benoit removed (at WWE's pressure) and the Crossface Crippler move was hidden (but not completely deleted), ostensibly to prevent creation of Benoit CAWs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVWkewDiRG4
slaywee
Ps2 WWE SVR 2008 Hacked Moves SS Crossface & Walls of Jericho
8:40 AM
(Benoit shown here is a CAW; also, please no debates about him here) (edited)
Deleted User 6/22/2018 12:03 PM
Wut
12:03 PM
Idgaf about wrestling
12:03 PM
I'm a technical sort of guy
Ketsuban 6/22/2018 12:19 PM
CAW?
FMecha 6/22/2018 12:37 PM
Create-A-Wrestler
12:38 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit_double-murder_and_suicide for further context
Chris Benoit double-murder and suicide
Over a three-day period between June 22 and June 24, 2007, Chris Benoit, a 40-year-old veteran professional wrestler employed by World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), killed his wife Nancy Benoit and strangled their 7-year-old son Daniel. Autopsy results showed that Benoit's w...
divingkxt 6/22/2018 12:40 PM
Steroids can really mess up your brain.
12:40 PM
All sorts of paranoid thoughts.
12:41 PM
That's all I'll say here.
FMecha 6/22/2018 12:42 PM
Current narrative about Benoit has largely shifted from steroids to concussions though (and that's my last saying about it here)
12:43 PM
The link above is provided merely as a context to removal of Crossface Crippler in SvR 2008
Borman 6/22/2018 12:51 PM
Jumping off the ropes and hitting your head to the mat multiple times a week certainly didnt help anything
divingkxt 6/22/2018 1:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvvJJss3Bu0
ImJustATester
Sly 3 - August 2005 Prototype - Debug Menu (Parts of it)
Stewie1.0 6/22/2018 2:12 PM
Oh dammit. I was editing a page and my laptop froze
2:14 PM
I didn't even get to save
LuigiBlood 6/22/2018 4:01 PM
So apparently we can now extract music from Metal Gear Solid
4:01 PM
and have working PSFs
4:01 PM
I did it on VR Mission
4:01 PM
And it seems I found an unused song
4:02 PM
Apparently VR Mission title screen was supposed to have a remix of Metal Gear 2's Main Theme
divingkxt 6/22/2018 4:02 PM
Er...I see no checkbox.
4:03 PM
"Select the "Sign" option under the "Scenery/Trees" tab during game play. Place it anywhere on the map. Then, enter one of the following codes and press [Enter] to activate a cheat function. A small checkmark will appear to confirm correct code entry. Saving the game is recommended before any code is enabled in the event it causes unintended consequences. "
4:06 PM
"Show all general statistics for current game - Cht: Debugger"
Ketsuban 6/22/2018 4:06 PM
Which Transport Tycoon is this?
divingkxt 6/22/2018 4:08 PM
Deluxe.
4:08 PM
http://www.cheatbook.de/files/traporttyuxe.htm
Transport Tycoon Deluxe Cheats, Codes - PC - Cheatbook
Transport Tycoon Deluxe for PC Cheats - Cheatbook is the resource for the latest tips, unlockables, cheat codes, easter eggs, hints and secrets to get the edge to win.
4:14 PM
I do see the text in the executable at least.
4:14 PM
Still, not all so great.
Dezent 6/22/2018 4:51 PM
@LuigiBlood that's pretty interesting
Stewie1.0 6/22/2018 4:57 PM
Can youtube videos be in a thumbnail?
4:57 PM
Cuz im trying to add one in a thumbnail
DMTM 6/22/2018 5:01 PM
hey peeps in the cutting floor.
5:01 PM
:)
divingkxt 6/22/2018 5:03 PM
Yo.
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:07 PM
Hi
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:12 PM
I think I might have a beta version of Dr. Mario Online Rx
5:14 PM

- it's from NUS
- banner jingle is different
- game versions exist separately for different languages
- the manual is embedded into the game, doesn't have the controls image then tells you to go to the wii shop channel
- doesn't seem to let you send a friend battle demo
- id starts with HDM

(edited)
5:16 PM
the jingle sounds like this
5:18 PM
here's the final one
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:19 PM
is it the same title id?
GerbilSoft 6/22/2018 5:19 PM
hm
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:19 PM
No
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:19 PM
what name does it have in the Wii Shop Channel?
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:19 PM
The final game has WDM Friend battle demo has WDP This one has HDM
5:20 PM
which is weird, because H is reserved for Channels
5:20 PM
just like the first character is always reserved for the game platform
GerbilSoft 6/22/2018 5:20 PM
5:20 PM
HDM = demo channel?
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:20 PM
X is used for wiiware demos
GerbilSoft 6/22/2018 5:20 PM
oh wait no
5:20 PM
DM is the correct game ID
5:21 PM
i dunno
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:22 PM
wii shop channel doesn't show anything about the title @Hiccup
5:22 PM
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:22 PM
I guess it has no metadata.
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:22 PM
yes
5:22 PM
also the game files are compressed in a way I don't know
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:23 PM
I don't think I ever found a decompressor for it.
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:23 PM
aluigi (father of quickbms) couldn't figure it out but he figured out the one used in endless ocean (seems to be the same archive format but uncompressed)
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:23 PM
Could you list the dates in the code?
5:23 PM
And compare them with final?
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:23 PM
you mean the one that looks like this?
5:23 PM
5:23 PM
u8 archives that they're enclosed in do not have a timestamp
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:24 PM
I mean the SDK-related dates (or development leftover build dates - but this game may not have those) in the uncompressed executable (edited)
5:25 PM
@GerbilSoft Do WiiWare have debug flags of any kind?
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:25 PM
oh here's another thing
5:26 PM
the DOL isn't compressed
GerbilSoft 6/22/2018 5:26 PM
no idea, haven't done much wiiware stuff
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:26 PM
Okay. So, larsenv - does the code/dol have any dates in whatsoever
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:26 PM
By the way, the beta one has a LANG.dat with just an integer for the language code
5:27 PM
Umm
5:27 PM
what's the best way to check
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:27 PM
open decompressed code in hex editor
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:27 PM
yeah I use a hex editor
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:29 PM
search for the strings "2007", "2008", "07", "08"
5:29 PM
and look through carefully
GerbilSoft 6/22/2018 5:29 PM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/psa-sx-os-banwave-is-here.508435/ rip
Discussion - [PSA] SX OS Banwave is here!!!
Aaaaand the ban hammer drops! 5.1.0 and never used CDN, using SX for the past couple of days (SX 1.1 since yesterday) with a shit ton of backups.....
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:29 PM
you can narrow down the two-digit years if you have to
5:29 PM
by trying
5:29 PM
"/07", "07/", "-07", "07-"
5:29 PM
Or just send me the file
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:30 PM
Yeah I was looking at it
5:30 PM
am I allowed to DM you?
5:30 PM
the file?
5:30 PM
does that comply with the rules?
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:30 PM
TCRF rules: (edited)
5:30 PM
I would say this
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:30 PM
I checked the rules
Hiccup 6/22/2018 5:31 PM
TCRF rules don't really cover non-TCRF communications
5:31 PM
and its only a small part of the game (edited)
5:31 PM
You could even upload it here, I believe.
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:38 PM
@divingkxt do you know?
5:39 PM
should probably ask @GerbilSoft instead actually
divingkxt 6/22/2018 5:39 PM
Yeah, I ain't so knowledgeable on Wii game hacking.
GerbilSoft 6/22/2018 5:39 PM
i can check later (edited)
Deleted User 6/22/2018 5:43 PM
I'll take that as a yes
5:43 PM
HDME.wad
22.63 MB
5:43 PM
here's the USA version, but there's more
MysticSageJosh 6/22/2018 7:58 PM
is that wad meant for wiis
skeletonhugger 6/22/2018 8:08 PM
what do you people use to keep notes for unused content in games until it's added to an article?
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/22/2018 8:16 PM
usually user pages i think
8:16 PM
or whatever theyre called
Neko May 6/22/2018 8:17 PM
You can use any text editor or even a pen and paper if you like
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/22/2018 8:35 PM
8:35 PM
Δndrew P. 6/22/2018 9:36 PM
damn it no DDR here
divingkxt 6/22/2018 9:36 PM
?
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/22/2018 9:37 PM
dance dance revolution?
Neko May 6/22/2018 9:38 PM
Double Data Rate
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/22/2018 9:41 PM
oh
Δndrew P. 6/22/2018 9:41 PM
oh heck wrong server
9:41 PM
Im so sorry
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/22/2018 9:41 PM
oh x2
Δndrew P. 6/22/2018 10:40 PM
Around an hour ago i was at a big arcade. It was alright i guess.
Neko May 6/22/2018 10:41 PM
I'm guessing more than half of it was coin redemption
Aistarin 6/22/2018 10:48 PM
did it have classics?
10:49 PM
or just mobile app ports?
Δndrew P. 6/22/2018 10:49 PM
A mix of both.
goat 6/22/2018 10:49 PM
i'm to the point where i get excited when i see one of those punching machines because i know my time in the arcade will offer something i don't already have in my pocket
Aistarin 6/22/2018 10:50 PM
most importantly
10:50 PM
did it have Time Crisis 1 or 2 and/or Crisis Zone?
Δndrew P. 6/22/2018 10:50 PM
I saw an arcade cabinet that was apparently made by Raw Thrills and Nintendo, it was some racing game.
10:53 PM
Some person accidentally left ~400 tickets in the converting/ticket feed machine so i tool that 400 something tickets and added them to my card
10:53 PM
*took
goat 6/22/2018 10:55 PM
nobody has ever left me alone in an arcade with a punching machine but i figure i'll convert all my money to punches
Δndrew P. 6/22/2018 10:56 PM
I was hoping they had dance dance revo but sadly no
10:56 PM
I’d spend ALL my money there
goat 6/22/2018 10:57 PM
i have a dance pad and necrodancer here but i never have the room
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/22/2018 10:58 PM
coda with dancepad
10:58 PM
id like to see it
Neko May 6/22/2018 10:59 PM
I still need to finish Time Crisis 5
10:59 PM
When I last played it, it was only half released
Laenthor 6/22/2018 11:26 PM
AnkyloSource 6/22/2018 11:28 PM
buddy
11:31 PM
huh, I'm surprised there's no page for shovel knight
Laenthor 6/22/2018 11:32 PM
Yeah I'm actually planning of starting one in the future if I ever run out of stuff to do
11:32 PM
At least the 300+ cheats must be documented or something.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 12:29 AM
DK joins then parts
12:29 AM
lol
12:33 AM
i have the demo, full DOS and deluxe
12:33 AM
did the other cheats work?
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:38 AM
My internet is down the tubes, connection-wise.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 12:47 AM
k
12:47 AM
loooks like issues on latest DB with the orig game
12:47 AM
trying deluxe
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 12:55 AM
hahh!
12:55 AM
in the demo exe
12:55 AM
Appl pgm is a debugger
divingkxt 6/23/2018 1:18 AM
Haven't tested the other cheats.
1:18 AM
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/562952-transport-tycoon-deluxe/cheats
Transport Tycoon Deluxe Cheats, Codes, and Secrets for PC - GameFAQs
For Transport Tycoon Deluxe on the PC, GameFAQs has 12 cheat codes and secrets.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 1:19 AM
yep thats what im using
1:20 AM
none of them work so far
1:20 AM
how picky is the txt input i wonder
1:20 AM
spaces etc
divingkxt 6/23/2018 1:22 AM
With or without spaces, they didn't work.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 1:28 AM
yeah this sucks
1:28 AM
theres console ports lol
divingkxt 6/23/2018 1:30 AM
Would ask Chris Sawyer, but I doubt he remembers.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 1:30 AM
wow
1:30 AM
have you had much success with contacting devs of ancient games for stuff?
divingkxt 6/23/2018 1:32 AM
Nah.
1:32 AM
Closest thing was getting a dev to comment on a video about an obscure as hell shareware game.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 1:35 AM
nice
divingkxt 6/23/2018 1:40 AM
Still worth something.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 1:40 AM
link?
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 1:55 AM
gonna get one of these
1:55 AM
https://www.amazon.com/BUG-A-SALT-2-0-from-Skell-Inc/dp/B00STSZ77G
DeadlyDilemma 6/23/2018 2:10 AM
the lack of TCRF info about mechwarrior games beyond 2 and 3055 makes my heart hurt
Neko May 6/23/2018 2:22 AM
@DeadlyDilemma: Good thing TCRF is a wiki! Get to work!
2:22 AM
:P
DeadlyDilemma 6/23/2018 2:23 AM
ah jeez
2:23 AM
maybe ill try my hand at splitting open MW4:M
Neko May 6/23/2018 2:24 AM
There's info about how to datamine on the wiki, and #help if you have questions not answered there, and #tools for info about any tools for doing it.
eientei 6/23/2018 4:13 AM
@AnkyloSource "huh, I'm surprised there's no page for shovel knight" There still needs to be documented the debug menu in the PC game (see Jul topic)
eientei 6/23/2018 5:02 AM
There's a guy banned from the discord in the IRC channel wanting an account
5:03 AM
@alivebacon#1140 (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/23/2018 5:04 AM
eientei 6/23/2018 5:05 AM
Can someone check the logs to see what he's done
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/23/2018 5:05 AM
he played the slots twice (edited)
eientei 6/23/2018 5:06 AM
Yeah, but his posts were deleted
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/23/2018 5:06 AM
ohh
leilei 6/23/2018 5:15 AM
looking back and checking their avatar had me recall someone posting maga crap here months ago but that's probably someone else
5:16 AM
was npzman alting their way here during april?
eientei 6/23/2018 5:16 AM
I probably should ping the @🔪 Mods
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 5:16 AM
ugh
leilei 6/23/2018 6:28 AM
yeah i might be thinking of someone else that joined shortly after this became the official discord
6:28 AM
which was way earlier than april
6:28 AM
so bacon........idunno (edited)
LarryLemmy 6/23/2018 11:04 AM
Wasn't AliveBacon that really annoying person who must have been about 10 years old? Judging by his behaviour anyway
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 11:26 AM
https://tcrf.net/Killer_Instinct_2
Killer Instinct 2
11:26 AM
"Note that version 1.0 of the disk image has never been dumped, and is believed to no longer exist. " This seems curious
11:26 AM
haven't heard anything about a 1.0 disk...but there is a dumped rom of a 1.0 version
11:27 AM
for the record there's that KI prototype version 4.7
11:27 AM
that doesn't have its own disk
11:27 AM
but rather just has a rom dumped
divingkxt 6/23/2018 11:56 AM
That's not to say 10 year olds aren't welcome, provided they can act mature enough.
11:56 AM
But 95% of them aren't mature enough to be on TCRF IMHO.
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:05 PM
https://tcrf.net/Baldi%27s_Basics_in_Education_and_Learning
Baldi%27s_Basics_in_Education_and_Learning
12:05 PM
Why am I not surprised this was made by TherainbowcreeperRBX?
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:05 PM
Sigh
Dezent 6/23/2018 12:07 PM
wat
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:08 PM
Some dude who was in here bugging people the other day to make a page for some meme game went ahead and made a page for said meme game
LuigiBlood 6/23/2018 12:09 PM
https://twitter.com/gmontoir/status/1010035882332774401
Gregory Montoir (@gmontoir)
Room backgrounds in Flashback are 256x224 bitmaps on DOS and Amiga versions but there is a left over (from Sega MegaDrive ?) file level1.sgd containing the tiles. Could be useful if anyone comes up with an editor...
12:09 PM
interesting
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:09 PM
@blueskyrunner Actually, a different user.
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:10 PM
Oh
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:10 PM
This user is from Wikia and they also are on the Roblox Creepypasta Wikia.
Dezent 6/23/2018 12:10 PM
Well then
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:10 PM
>Roblox Creepypasta wiki
12:10 PM
That's certainly a combination of words you just said
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:11 PM
It's real though and I question why.
12:12 PM
Then again, most Roblox users are under 14 (and sometimes under 11 even).
12:12 PM
Nex 6/23/2018 12:12 PM
wait wait wait wait
12:12 PM
alivebacon?
12:13 PM
like on discord?
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:14 PM
Yup
Nex 6/23/2018 12:14 PM
we banned that dude from our psp server
12:14 PM
due to being spammy, always posting in the wrong channel and being highly annoying
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:14 PM
We banned him here too.
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:14 PM
Sounds about right
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:14 PM
And recently he found our IRC channel.
12:14 PM
He's banned from there too.
Nex 6/23/2018 12:15 PM
also he begged me for 2 emojis
12:15 PM
he couldn't just rip them himself
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:16 PM
OFC, because he's dumb and has to rely on YT tutorial videos made with OBS and Notepad.
Nex 6/23/2018 12:16 PM
12:16 PM
he also was pretty demanding about it
12:17 PM
wich pissed me off
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:21 PM
I can't stand people like that, thinking that they're the ur-person
12:21 PM
That "world revolves around me" bullshit, ugh
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:21 PM
Ugh I need to sweep that baldi's page
12:22 PM
deleting crap
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:22 PM
12:22 PM
Just call it what it is, an infliction
12:22 PM
We've been inflicted with baldness :V
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:22 PM
GOTTA SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP
12:22 PM
cough
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:22 PM
Ha
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:23 PM
that's what exactly happens.
12:26 PM
done.
12:26 PM
and -2348 bytes
12:26 PM
lol
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:29 PM
Whew
12:29 PM
Looks much better now!
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:30 PM
Yeah, that corruption was not needed.
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:31 PM
But it's spooooopy
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:32 PM
Also note that we have pages for the entire Five Nights at Freddy's series and Slender: The Arrival...
12:32 PM
but yet plenty of other games are outright missing pages.
12:32 PM
And not even listed on the CTE page.
12:32 PM
As in, only recently did we add Transport Tycoon.
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:32 PM
That's really sad D:
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:34 PM
@blueskyrunner Can you dig through a bunch of random DOS games with Astrogrep, perhaps?
12:34 PM
No wiki editing knowledge required even.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:34 PM
I'm digging though procyon's game
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:34 PM
Just post whatever interesting tidbits you find by searching "debug", "confidential", "beta", or whatever other term pops in your head.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:34 PM
I got ppmd so I can dug on music (that's SMDL/SWDL)
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:35 PM
Hell, there's barely any hex editor knowledge needed, just drag and drop.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:35 PM
@divingkxt do you kniw how to extract PACK4 format?
12:35 PM
I have something hidden
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 12:36 PM
oof
12:36 PM
heyo
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:36 PM
But can't get crack on it
12:36 PM
It's for SomaBringer, one of early MonolithSoft game
12:36 PM
w/ procyon game studio music
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:37 PM
First time I've heard about it.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:37 PM
those Monolithsoft files are like
12:37 PM
so properietary af
12:37 PM
(except musics)
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:38 PM
I could give it a go, sure
12:38 PM
I've wanted to start digging through games anyway
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:39 PM
anyway gn for me
12:39 PM
1AM
12:39 PM
I'll work on various NDS game
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:39 PM
Oyasuminasai
12:39 PM
http://astrogrep.sourceforge.net/
AstroGrep
A Windows grep utility that supports regular expressions, context lines, and advanced search options
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 12:39 PM
Somabringer nice game
12:39 PM
but their model is literally unextracted
12:40 PM
I can't get grip on jt
12:40 PM
no document
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:42 PM
Were there any particular games you wanted me to look at?
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:45 PM
Well...any game not on the wiki right now.
12:45 PM
https://tcrf.net/Category:DOS_games
Category:DOS games
12:45 PM
Much of the LucasArts' adventure game catalogue is still MIA.
Rena 6/23/2018 12:46 PM
Find debug stuff in Banjo Kazooie
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 12:47 PM
I'll give it a go and let you know if I find anything!
12:47 PM
I have to admit I haven't done anything like this before though, heh
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 12:50 PM
I have fiddled around with a DOA2 Prototype once
12:50 PM
not sure if there's something interesting in the data but the most I found is some broken chars lol
12:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05_sektz_Oo
TheArcadeStriker
Dead or Alive 2 (Dreamcast) - Prototype footage
12:51 PM
also, just by casualty, aren't you Rena the one that uploaded this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rty8SDh0dwM
Rena Kunisaki
First Ever Mario Kart 64 Custom Track NOW AVAILABLE
12:51 PM
This looked really cool for me back then
LarryLemmy 6/23/2018 12:54 PM
Hey, I remember that mod! It's what introduced me to Eurobeat
divingkxt 6/23/2018 12:55 PM
@Rena @punk7890 is the man for that.
Rena 6/23/2018 12:55 PM
Yeah that was me
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 12:55 PM
also, heyo there punk7890; thanks a lot for that help you gave me in getting Net de Bomberman music from the ISO
12:56 PM
Funny how that rare online ps2 bomberman game is now "easier to find" yet it's currently impossible to access any gameplay thanks to it being online only
12:56 PM
it used a (afaik) unemulated peripheral to connect to online, and the servers are obviously long dead
Rena 6/23/2018 12:56 PM
Shame I never really went any further with Mario Kart. micro500 has been working on it though
cuba200611 6/23/2018 12:57 PM
Punk, the master of debug menus
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 12:57 PM
Hmmm...I may want to do some HQ recording of the custom track myself :3
12:57 PM
oh yeah, and pitstop 64
Rena 6/23/2018 12:57 PM
It doesn't work on real N64 either. I had no way to test at the time.
12:57 PM
I mean, it runs, but the track is invisible
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 12:57 PM
custom music and sprites are possible too currently
12:58 PM
music, sounds, sprites and textues iirc (edited)
Rena 6/23/2018 12:58 PM
The way the game is coded makes it a bit difficult to edit but very flexible
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 12:58 PM
it has quite gone a long way
12:58 PM
just like xbox emulation
Rena 6/23/2018 12:58 PM
The levels are pretty much memory dumps
12:59 PM
It wouldn't be too hard to just include some extra code/resources in them and patch things to use it
1:00 PM
Main obstacle is finding code in the game that deals with things like setting up the race and drawing extra things like the neon signs in the sky
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 1:03 PM
there hasn't been ANY kiosk demo disc release of SSBM that is before the JPN release date right?
divingkxt 6/23/2018 1:07 PM
Correct.
1:07 PM
No dev release even.
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 1:09 PM
there was a kiosk demo that had a F-Zero GX proto though, right?
divingkxt 6/23/2018 1:14 PM
None to my knowledge.
FancyEX 6/23/2018 1:15 PM
Hey guys In MKDD Is the music file GURAGURA_MARIO_0.x.32.c4.ast hidden in the MKDD disc used?
1:15 PM
It sounds like an early version of Baby Park's music. (edited)
divingkxt 6/23/2018 1:15 PM
"The song 'Guragura_mario_0.x.32.c4.ast' is another version of Baby Park with an extra intro. Can someone confirm if this is unused or not?"
1:16 PM
"Is it the version used in the battle course named Tilt-A-Kart? That one starts with the intro to the Super Mario Bros. ground theme."
FancyEX 6/23/2018 1:17 PM
Uhhhhh.
1:17 PM
Sorry?
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 1:18 PM
I need to start uploading those old sprites of https://tcrf.net/Atomic_Bomberman prototype
Atomic Bomberman
1:18 PM
I got to check them thanks to Fredit tools from the game and PCEm
divingkxt 6/23/2018 1:20 PM
@FancyEX Nah, don't be.
1:20 PM
To be honest, it seems like we're the only place that even acknowledges the file's existence. (edited)
ArcadeStriker 6/23/2018 1:24 PM
leilei 6/23/2018 5:12 PM
all i could really find in the doa2 prototype is the borken random select
5:12 PM
since the prototype was mid-2000 it wasn't that interesting, not really 1999 and earlier (edited)
5:13 PM
just felt like a buggy final game (edited)
5:13 PM
being a hacked proto doesn't help (t was a ntsc-j dumped as pal)
The JustGreat Minty Meeo 6/23/2018 7:11 PM
I'm pretty proud to announce that I've made my first decent contribution to TCRF
7:11 PM
https://tcrf.net/Pikmin#Usuba
Pikmin
divingkxt 6/23/2018 7:11 PM
claps hands
The JustGreat Minty Meeo 6/23/2018 7:12 PM
After hacking this game for a year, I stumbled upon an unused enemy while trying to make sense of some information by a hacker from years-gone-by
Dezent 6/23/2018 7:12 PM
7:12 PM
Well done
DarthDubඞ 6/23/2018 7:14 PM
@leilei i love you
Dezent 6/23/2018 7:18 PM
(get a room you two)
7:18 PM
:p
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 7:21 PM
Whoa, that's really nifty!
7:22 PM
Does it have any sort of coding left, or is it just the model?
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 7:28 PM
is that the one with working windows version in it?
The JustGreat Minty Meeo 6/23/2018 7:40 PM
Usuba has a model, a single animation called 'fly.dca', a well-developed set of parameters that are of an older version, and a debug string that says "Usaba is flying."
7:41 PM
However, attempting to spawn it in crashes the game for an unknown reason
Niamiko 6/23/2018 7:41 PM
jIIHMZ+1PO
7:41 PM
Now what's the answer to the question
7:41 PM
@🔧 Admins
The JustGreat Minty Meeo 6/23/2018 7:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaN7IGzwDfo&feature=youtu.be&t=4m25s
Woofmute
Pikmin Model Test Mode
7:42 PM
Usuba makes an "appearance" in this video, but is totally invisible
Niamiko 6/23/2018 7:42 PM
oh wait there's a channel for this
Revenant 6/23/2018 7:42 PM
@Niamiko k0BGuM3JL+
Niamiko 6/23/2018 7:42 PM
@Revenant thanks
7:42 PM
see ya
The JustGreat Minty Meeo 6/23/2018 7:43 PM
I'm not really skilled enough yet to tell if there are any unused functions tied to this enemy
7:47 PM
Though the build map has plenty of references to the AI files of the enemy being compiled, so I guess there is something.
MysticSageJosh 6/23/2018 7:47 PM
Very nice
7:47 PM
i haven't contributed shit
7:49 PM
I don't know how to hack games and i don't have the money to buy and dump protos
DarthDubඞ 6/23/2018 7:52 PM
be like me and look at pc games
The JustGreat Minty Meeo 6/23/2018 7:52 PM
who needs protos when you can just hack games that never got love
DarthDubඞ 6/23/2018 7:53 PM
i've only made one contribution to a page (well i should say upload) and the rest are just fixing typos
7:53 PM
nothing wrong with fixing typos
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/23/2018 7:59 PM
ive done a ton of that
8:00 PM
then some LSL content too
blueskyrunner 6/23/2018 8:01 PM
I've actually tried to look through some SNES games with programs like TileMolester, but I couldn't make heads or tails of it
DarthDubඞ 6/23/2018 8:01 PM
i somehow ended up helping someone with regional differences for a game with tile layer pro even though i didn't know what i was doing
Deleted User 6/23/2018 8:20 PM
programs like that dont distinguish other data from actual graphics
8:20 PM
you just got to look carefully
Rim 6/23/2018 8:40 PM
so, several N64 games use the Quake engine
8:40 PM
has anyone tried to import/extract maps from these games?
divingkxt 6/23/2018 8:46 PM
Er...which games?
8:46 PM
Besides Quake, obviously.
Rim 6/23/2018 8:48 PM
Quake 2
DarthDubඞ 6/23/2018 8:48 PM
do the turok games use it?
Rim 6/23/2018 8:49 PM
Don't know about Turok but i know Hexen uses it
DarthDubඞ 6/23/2018 8:49 PM
oh yeah for sure
Ziella 6/23/2018 9:03 PM
If a game's announced to be coming out to the west, and is already out in Japan, should I wait for the English release to come out too before making an article?
eientei 6/23/2018 9:04 PM
Up to you
9:05 PM
We've had a few articles made from the JP version before a localised version was released
Ziella 6/23/2018 9:06 PM
Ah alright. Just wanted to check since I know some sites want you to wait for it to come out localized if it's been announced to be coming out in the west. In that case should I use the Japanese name of the game, or use the announced english name?
Revenant 6/23/2018 9:20 PM
n64 hexen doesn't use the quake engine
9:20 PM
the turok games don't either
AnkyloSource 6/23/2018 9:54 PM
@eientei about the shovel knight debug menu, do you know if that's PC only? After my current project I might move on to 3ds shovel knight
eientei 6/23/2018 10:11 PM
Only PC as far as I know (edited)
goat 6/23/2018 10:21 PM
why would hexen use the quake engine
divingkxt 6/23/2018 10:44 PM
Because floating points, apparently?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 11:22 PM
Hexen PC is quake engine
11:22 PM
(IIRC Quake sourceport will work with Hexen)
goat 6/23/2018 11:32 PM
hexen pc is not quake engine, hexen pc is doom engine
Revenant 6/23/2018 11:32 PM
yeah
11:32 PM
hexen n64 also contains a regular doom engine IWAD
11:33 PM
hexen pc came out about 8 months before quake
divingkxt 6/23/2018 11:40 PM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] 違いました。It uses the Doom engine.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 11:40 PM
oh
11:40 PM
yeah
11:40 PM
doom
divingkxt 6/23/2018 11:40 PM
For both DOS and N64 versions.
Neko May 6/23/2018 11:40 PM
Does it have overlapping rooms in any level? If not, it's probably DOOM engine. (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/23/2018 11:40 PM
lol
Neko May 6/23/2018 11:42 PM
Remember the DOOM engine is actually 2D
Revenant 6/23/2018 11:54 PM
not really
11:55 PM
map vertices are 2D and that's it
Revenant 6/24/2018 12:02 AM
"doom is 2D" kind of misrepresents the fact that everything still exists/moves around in three dimensions
tape 6/24/2018 12:20 AM
actually all video games are 2d because they're projected on a flat screen
Revenant 6/24/2018 12:22 AM
punk7890 6/24/2018 12:23 AM
Revenant 6/24/2018 12:23 AM
3DS games are projected on two stereoscopic frame buffers and also the bottom screen which basically means they're actually 6D
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/24/2018 12:39 AM
what type of dimension
12:39 AM
nintendo is living in 2043
goat 6/24/2018 1:15 AM
hexen was a clusterfuck
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/24/2018 2:23 AM
2D calc'd game would be 2d :p
2:23 AM
pseudo 3D exists
eientei 6/24/2018 2:30 AM
I should dump the 1995 shareware disc I picked up today
2:31 AM
Even contains I. M. Meen
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/24/2018 3:18 AM
@eientei dd it :p
eientei 6/24/2018 3:20 AM
:p
3:20 AM
Only problem is that my laptop doesn't have a disc drive
3:21 AM
Desktop does, but has WIn7 because there was some ripping software that didn't run with Wine needed for Redump
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/24/2018 3:40 AM
@eientei imgburn?
eientei 6/24/2018 4:00 AM
Nah, DiscImageCreator
Neko May 6/24/2018 4:03 AM
meows loudly at @Chromaryu [3DS person] for no reason whatsoever
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/24/2018 4:16 AM
lol
4:16 AM
Meow
4:16 AM
@Neko May ^
Neko May 6/24/2018 4:18 AM
wags tails :3
xXMarT1naXx 6/24/2018 5:48 AM
hey there
5:48 AM
Didn't know you had a discord server
Dezent 6/24/2018 6:23 AM
Hey hey, welcome
eientei 6/24/2018 7:20 AM
https://social.coop/@gdorn/100249934274548758
George Dorn
George Dorn on social.coop
#Discord re-set this flag automatically during the last update. If you don't want it scanning your computer and uploading that info to their servers, check your privacy settings. This is awful. https://social.coop/media/B0HHhnSRwKh9np9ET74
Sunk 6/24/2018 7:23 AM
don't see this setting. where is it?
7:23 AM
it's not in "Privacy & Safety"
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/24/2018 7:24 AM
connections
Nex 6/24/2018 7:24 AM
I looked and didn't find it either
Sunk 6/24/2018 7:24 AM
found it
Nex 6/24/2018 7:24 AM
ah there
eientei 6/24/2018 7:28 AM
It's even in the Linux client, so don't think you're safe just because you're on Linux
Sunk 6/24/2018 7:29 AM
my thoughts exactly, george
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/24/2018 7:38 AM
nice avatar eien
7:38 AM
where have i seen that before
Hiccup 6/24/2018 7:40 AM
its just a thing for the downloadable client
eientei 6/24/2018 7:49 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT kappa
Neko May 6/24/2018 8:37 AM
You would seem to be safe on the Android client.
8:38 AM
It doesn't appear to do such automatically.
moonie 6/24/2018 1:55 PM
1:55 PM
[heavy breathing]
blueskyrunner 6/24/2018 2:19 PM
Deleted User 6/24/2018 4:23 PM
Raw
MysticSageJosh 6/24/2018 4:48 PM
IT'S FUCKING RAW!
Dezent 6/24/2018 5:25 PM
WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE?!
Rena 6/24/2018 7:04 PM
Is that a fucking SMRPG proto
7:05 PM
Also I don't see that setting in Android Discord
ShiniiLevii 6/24/2018 7:07 PM
oh boi
divingkxt 6/24/2018 7:07 PM
Seems like a final copy of SMRPG with some signature on the bottom.
ShiniiLevii 6/24/2018 7:07 PM
hm
7:08 PM
ok
Borman 6/24/2018 7:08 PM
Yep, Replay FX: https://replayfx.org/
mhstein
Home
Rena 6/24/2018 7:09 PM
Aw.
ShiniiLevii 6/24/2018 7:09 PM
:(
Salmonian 6/24/2018 7:12 PM
The slime rancher wikia would rather have their stuff stay on their site, i've tried.
divingkxt 6/24/2018 7:14 PM
?
Salmonian 6/24/2018 7:15 PM
They hide their cut secrets.
7:15 PM
Go to the place where the wikia is decided
7:15 PM
then (edited)
divingkxt 6/24/2018 7:16 PM
There's still the endless revisional differences.
Salmonian 6/24/2018 7:16 PM
they do only the revisional differences
7:16 PM
they count it all as such
divingkxt 6/24/2018 7:16 PM
Way more there than what's on here.
7:17 PM
And there's also the revision differences to be moved to the Proto:Slime Rancher page.
7:17 PM
https://slimerancher.wikia.com/wiki/Unused_Features
Unused Features
For upcoming content announced to be added to the game, see: Upcoming Features This page serves to document content that was either planned and ultimately scrapped, or is in the files but remains...
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/24/2018 7:19 PM
I got few Sega Saturn sound driver
7:19 PM
it have dev's signature owo
7:20 PM
start with move.w SR,#2700
DarthDubඞ 6/24/2018 7:20 PM
i was thinking of monster rancher for some reason when i saw the name slime rancher oops
divingkxt 6/24/2018 7:21 PM
We have the most on any Monster Rancher honestly.
7:21 PM
Not saying much TBH.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/24/2018 7:25 PM
i think its kinda weird how nobody has made a guild wars 2 page for the cutting room floor
7:25 PM
i feel like its about time that someone started one
7:25 PM
maybe ill start it...? (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/24/2018 7:26 PM
did you find anything in it?
divingkxt 6/24/2018 9:39 PM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 There are whole bunches of games without pages. (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/24/2018 9:40 PM
yeah
9:40 PM
also @DarthDubඞ i don't even have to dig in game files to find unused content
divingkxt 6/24/2018 9:40 PM
Even Guild Wars barely has a page. https://tcrf.net/Guild_Wars
Guild Wars
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/24/2018 9:40 PM
oh god
9:41 PM
9:41 PM
9:41 PM
this game is dead and the only reason people play it anymore is because of guild vs guild and carryover content to guild wars 2
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/24/2018 10:09 PM
hmm
10:10 PM
guild wars 2 doesnt really have a title screen
10:10 PM
would the logo do?
divingkxt 6/24/2018 10:10 PM
Log-in screen.
10:10 PM
Alternatively, use "noscreen = y" in the Bob.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/24/2018 10:10 PM
i don't really wanna show people my characters
10:10 PM
so noscreen = y
10:11 PM
because the game goes: log in to launcher > launcher > character select (edited)
divingkxt 6/24/2018 10:12 PM
Yes.
goat 6/25/2018 1:00 AM
i'm sad because i had characters saved in weird places before the big city was remade in gw2 and when i loaded them they were all in reasonable places instead
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/25/2018 3:58 AM
rip
punk7890 6/25/2018 4:44 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1011168088165715968
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a large debug menu in Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of the Time (PS2) https://t.co/qsxZDzaIUu This is basically the same debug menu from Growlanser III with a few added options. Once again, this contains everything you can think of.
4:44 AM
3
leilei 6/25/2018 4:45 AM
nice!
punk7890 6/25/2018 4:45 AM
大勝
3
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/25/2018 4:48 AM
nice!
punk7890 6/25/2018 4:52 AM
thanks
4:54 AM
time to look at it's sequel
4:56 AM
that was easy
6
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/25/2018 6:43 AM
@punk7890 wanna need tr?
Neko May 6/25/2018 7:33 AM
Everything I can think of, eh?
xXMarT1naXx 6/25/2018 7:54 AM
I have lots of data about Star Wars : Republic Commando leftovers
7:54 AM
This is some good shit
7:55 AM
unused HUD sprites and textures, unused weapon sounds, early story leftovers and an unused map, references to cut features and unfinished NPCs
Rena 6/25/2018 10:07 AM
Wayfarer of the Boobs
10:08 AM
For GW2 would a shot of the launcher work? Or is it basically just a menu?
GerbilSoft 6/25/2018 11:42 AM
https://github.com/file/file/commits/master whee
file/file
Read-only mirror of file CVS repository, updated every half hour. NOTE: do not make pull requests here, nor comment any commits, submit them usual way to bug tracker or to the mailing list. Maintai...
11:43 AM
got a bunch more patches upstreamed to file recently
susieq 6/25/2018 2:27 PM
so ive been ripping phoenix wright midis from sseq, and noticed that all 3 of the original trilogy games have several tracks in common, and all seem to share the same track numbering scheme (like, the tracks that are shared are always the same numbers, and some tracks skip numbers that are present in other games) leading me to believe they were probably built off of the same engine, at least sdat-wise
2:27 PM
is it worth pointing that out anywhere on any of the pages?
2:28 PM
for reference, the tracks shared between all 3 games are gumshoe, pressing pursuit ~ cornered (2001), investigation ~ core (2001), suspense, turnabout sisters' ballad, happy people, recollection ~ DL-6 incident, while trials & tribulations also has the alternate variation of pressing pursuit from the first game
2:30 PM
slightly related, all of the music from the episodes ported from the GBA version of the first game uses tracks 0-28, while the ds-exclusive episode (rise from the ashes) uses tracks 150-156 (which, when combined with the other games music, is listed after the last track in trials & tribulations, BGM143)
2:30 PM
the SFX from T&T take up slots 144-149
FancyEX 6/25/2018 2:32 PM
TCRF is now TCRDF?
susieq 6/25/2018 2:35 PM
the turnabout sisters ballad and the dl-6 incident (i believe) go unused in every game past the first since they're related to cases in the first game (though im not about to play through every single game again to check that), and i believe the steel samurai ballad and franziska von karma's theme go unused in T&T, so those at least should probably be mentioned somewhere
FancyEX 6/25/2018 2:38 PM
oooooooooooooo
susieq 6/25/2018 2:45 PM
ok after double-checking it looks like investigation ~ core (2002), trick & magic, hotline of fate, and courtroom lobby ~ another overture ALSO go unused in T&T, on top of pressing pursuit from the first game as mentioned earlier (as well as a SECOND copy of the psyche lock music exclusive to it, even though its identical to the J4A version, J4A uses BGM085 while T&T has BGM079 and BGM085)
2:48 PM
BGM082 in T&T is one of the great revival themes, but since i can't export the nes sq instrument properly i can't tell if it's a copy of edgeworth's theme or von karma's theme
Deleted User 6/25/2018 3:56 PM
are you looking at the DS versions, or 3DS?
susieq 6/25/2018 4:26 PM
DS
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/25/2018 4:32 PM
i dont think 3DS uses sdat?
Deleted User 6/25/2018 4:47 PM
cool
4:47 PM
those GBA games got ported to PC and released in JP only
4:48 PM
they were basically a GBA ROM emulation + high quality audio files hooked in
old acc! inactive 6/25/2018 5:22 PM
@susieq all of those you listed are used in 2/3
5:22 PM
sorry to burst your bubble
MysticSageJosh 6/25/2018 6:08 PM
https://tcrf.net/images/3/37/Hyrule_warriors_zelda_singing_zeldas_lullaby.ogg
6:08 PM
why am i relaxed? (edited)
6:09 PM
why is this unused? why is it so good? why am i-falls asleep
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/25/2018 6:12 PM
lol
Crusher Isran Chezzy 6/25/2018 6:14 PM
in Minish Cap, how can I turn off the flag where the game thinks I completed the book quest even though I didn't? The library employee is like, "your smith's grand son?" Also, the game thinks I got the books since in 2 locations, there gone. And when I turn tiny to go into the shelf area, the books are not there. There's empty space. I always have this problem when using item cheats, would removing pegasus boots or power bracelet fix my issue? I got all 4 elements and the book quest is broken. (edited)
darkwitchclaire 6/25/2018 6:15 PM
sings https://tcrf.net/images/8/86/Cvsotn-nocturne.ogg to Psyken
MysticSageJosh 6/25/2018 6:16 PM
sleeping psyken
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/25/2018 6:20 PM
Psyken.isAwake() == false
6:20 PM
Chroma.slapPerson(Psyken);
MysticSageJosh 6/25/2018 6:22 PM
Is too deep into sleep
6:23 PM
has dreams of princess zelda cuddling
Raffine52 6/25/2018 6:40 PM
I'm Here.
6:40 PM
Hello.
MysticSageJosh 6/25/2018 6:41 PM
Snore
Dezent 6/25/2018 6:43 PM
Hey hey
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/25/2018 6:52 PM
@MysticSageJosh wake…up…
MysticSageJosh 6/25/2018 6:53 PM
Motions for Chromaryu to go away
☎ 6/25/2018 7:02 PM
was that forza horizon 4 leak backed up somewhere?
punk7890 6/25/2018 7:02 PM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] If you want to, sure. I've put up a "needs translation" tag for that reason.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/25/2018 7:03 PM
mk
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/25/2018 7:49 PM
https://twitter.com/koitsu511/status/1010943166369820672?s=19
こいつ (@koitsu511)
この時間なので怖い話をしようと思います
Retweets
4530
Likes
5162
7:50 PM
"beatmania BEST HITS" has 5th source code in disc. (edited)
Raffine52 6/25/2018 7:56 PM
Superdimension Neptune VS Sega Hard Girls has Field Animations for Every Character, Even the Unleaderable ones.
7:56 PM
General Instrument CP1610 1979 6/25/2018 7:57 PM
Video 6/25/2018 8:31 PM
8:32 PM
This is going to be fun to rip into
Crusher Isran Chezzy 6/25/2018 8:38 PM
In Minish cap, if this is a All elements code, how do I change it so I got none of them yet? A2F05A69D3E7
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/25/2018 8:44 PM
@Rena i don't think so
8:44 PM
the launcher is like any generic game launcher
8:44 PM
news, update progress, etc
Salmonian 6/25/2018 8:57 PM
Im gnna try and help out
Deleted User 6/25/2018 10:42 PM
Joy. Redux is making me just want to quit, dump it in Eraser, delete it and play Shadowrun Returns (edited)
10:42 PM
Hey @Deleted User
10:43 PM
Pray tell, how did you manage to view the files inside SMT Redux
divingkxt 6/25/2018 11:06 PM
@Crusher Isran Chezzy You'll have to convert it to match the address changed and the value it's changed to.
11:06 PM
VBA does this automatically.
Crusher Isran Chezzy 6/25/2018 11:32 PM
Oh ok. Idk how though and I think this temple was going to have more rooms. Their hidden (edited)
11:33 PM
How do I delete the 2nd pic? Idk if screenshots should go here
Neko May 6/25/2018 11:34 PM
You're okay
Crusher Isran Chezzy 6/25/2018 11:37 PM
Alright, this game is not like Link to the Past but is it possible to get the camera to follow link once he goes out of bounds over the walls? Because the camera stays centered in all rooms
Neko May 6/25/2018 11:42 PM
I'm not sure on that one, sorry.
Crusher Isran Chezzy 6/25/2018 11:54 PM
Thats ok, the exploration is harder because of that but I'll get around it somehow.
Neko May 6/25/2018 11:55 PM
nods
Crusher Isran Chezzy 6/26/2018 12:46 AM
I really wish I could record this but somehow in the left part of the unused rooms, it plays the house theme music and I think theres mulitple versions of that ghosts grave rooms.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/26/2018 12:53 AM
sharex is pretty good for that type of stuff
eientei 6/26/2018 2:22 AM
World version of Puyo Pop Fever [Naomi hw] was dumped
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/26/2018 2:23 AM
o nice
eientei 6/26/2018 2:25 AM
https://github.com/Jazpy/RYUNATOR Haha, this is cool
Jazpy/RYUNATOR
RYUNATOR - SFII Neural Network
eientei 6/26/2018 2:34 AM
Nice, the Discord interaction works
leilei 6/26/2018 3:09 AM
so an input reading neural thing?
3:09 AM
so i could like........play wi.....against my self?
3:10 AM
and i assume by the name it only works on ryukens (edited)
DarthDubඞ 6/26/2018 3:14 AM
hm i might work on this in the future https://tcrf.net/Dragon_Ball_Xenoverse
Dragon Ball Xenoverse
3:14 AM
i bought the game on steam recently
eientei 6/26/2018 3:31 AM
@leilei Nah, it's a MAME Lua script that plays against itself
leilei 6/26/2018 3:32 AM
oh okay. so its like a newbie robot learning how to play on its own right
eientei 6/26/2018 3:32 AM
Yup
leilei 6/26/2018 3:32 AM
the page wasn't clear enough. thanks
eientei 6/26/2018 3:32 AM
np
leilei 6/26/2018 3:32 AM
could be the birth of skynet though....
eientei 6/26/2018 3:33 AM
Based on MarI/O, which is the same thing but SMB
leilei 6/26/2018 3:33 AM
i'd like to see it applied against. .. . vsav
3:33 AM
or alex kidd and the lost stars
3:34 AM
or gimmick
eientei 6/26/2018 3:34 AM
Mm
3:34 AM
VSAV?
leilei 6/26/2018 3:34 AM
vampire savior
eientei 6/26/2018 3:34 AM
Ah
3:36 AM
I'd like to see it applied to Battle Kid
Neko May 6/26/2018 4:09 AM
Virtua Fighter
eientei 6/26/2018 4:26 AM
Anyone else see that Nintendo is finally releasing an emulation of their rare arcade game Sky Skipper?
4:26 AM
And by Nintendo I mean Hamster
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/26/2018 4:55 AM
about 2 weeks back we had some discussions right when it was announced
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/26/2018 8:26 AM
8:26 AM
I found debug menu in Kuro no Juusan
Nex 6/26/2018 8:28 AM
nice find
Dezent 6/26/2018 8:29 AM
Nice nice
Athena 悠里マヤ 6/26/2018 8:29 AM
thank you!
goat 6/26/2018 11:36 AM
you're really good at this! have you done a guide on how you do it?
Salmonian 6/26/2018 12:26 PM
:P
pyrocow 6/26/2018 12:50 PM
The NES Console in Animal Crossing that doesn't seem to do anything can actually load NES ROMs from memory cards: https://twitter.com/jamchamb_/status/1011471338610003968
James Chambers (@jamchamb_)
#AnimalCrossing RE update: The generic "NES Console" you can get through a cheat code that normally says "I don't have software" can actually boot ROMs from the memory card. Booting save file crashed it :), but I got a dummy file to run that just waits for exit code. More ...
Deleted User 6/26/2018 12:53 PM
interesting!
Gilgamesh 6/26/2018 4:34 PM
nice
4:34 PM
Famicom
Deleted User 6/26/2018 4:55 PM
@pyrocow Cool find! I wonder how NES games would get loaded on the memory card. Maybe through kiosks at promo events?
Halfbit 6/26/2018 4:55 PM
Whoa!
4:55 PM
Loading ROMs from a Memory Card has potential
pyrocow 6/26/2018 4:57 PM
@Deleted User I think that would've been the idea, but they just never used it
4:59 PM
To create them you'd have to know the correct format of the files or have software that could generate them, and be able to write custom files to the memory card, which a normal user probably wouldn't be able to do
5:02 PM
I'm curious if that item is also in the N64 version, maybe they could've distributed memory paks with NES roms
leilei 6/26/2018 5:10 PM
what if .......animal crossing is the alpha of virtual console beta
5:11 PM
acid test all of nintendo's nes emulators and grade them against each other (edited)
Hallfiry 6/26/2018 5:16 PM
Possibly interesting: @Nex and I spent more than an hour transcribing the game names of the marketing calendars on my charts page. you can find them at the far bottom of the page: http://kultcds.com/Upload/Charts/
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Nex 6/26/2018 5:22 PM
be warned - its german
Deleted User 6/26/2018 5:23 PM
nice .
Deleted User 6/26/2018 5:34 PM
The tents in this Ocarina of Time beta footage from Spaceworld 1997 seem familiar. Did these tent objects carry over into the final game or Majora's Mask?
leilei 6/26/2018 5:35 PM
early
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/26/2018 5:36 PM
beta!
5:36 PM
the final frontier
Deleted User 6/26/2018 5:37 PM
@leilei @Patapon Fanatic #3 Haha! Probably right, I think I'm confusing these with the carpenters' tent.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/26/2018 5:38 PM
maybe
5:38 PM
i've never played majora's mask so i cant say
Deleted User 6/26/2018 5:39 PM
@Patapon Fanatic #3 No worries, it's a fun game if you ever get the chance to try it. There were several unused assets from Ocarina of Time that were later used in Majora's Mask. The beta returns!
5:41 PM
a lot of beta screenshots are just early versions of final areas
leilei 6/26/2018 5:42 PM
5:42 PM
there's also some cases of 'beta screenshots' that are pretty much the final game (edited)
5:42 PM
interstate 82 for example
Deleted User 6/26/2018 5:42 PM
theres some odd balls but the majority made it in game be it hevily modified
5:43 PM
the beta stalfos rooms are in the mq debug rom
leilei 6/26/2018 5:43 PM
i feel i82 was put on some 11 month backburner then rushed out before y2k arrived (edited)
5:44 PM
it was the last game activision developed themselves
5:44 PM
developed used very loosely here
Hallfiry 6/26/2018 5:53 PM
probably previously unknown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpkfMf4A73Y
Moritz Ernst Jacob
Interstate 82 - Gameplay Footage - PC Extreme
5:53 PM
possibly from E3 1999
leilei 6/26/2018 5:57 PM
i think all the press stuff is from dec98-jan99 iirc
Hallfiry 6/26/2018 5:58 PM
I also have a vid from E3 1998 (which is a trailer) (edited)
leilei 6/26/2018 5:58 PM
i'm not even sure if it was even at e3 99
5:58 PM
that's more dark reign 2 battlezone 2 showoff time
5:58 PM
which of course were much better games
Hallfiry 6/26/2018 6:01 PM
I should also have press pics from E3 1998 if you are interested, thoguh I doubt they are new
Borman 6/26/2018 6:50 PM
Some things just get solidified early in development
Deleted User 6/26/2018 6:58 PM
@Deleted User Beta Stalfos room is a good example, I'm impressed it lasted long enough to remain in the MQ debug.
7:01 PM
that room is very different including broken but oddly still compatible collision and probably was only made to show off the game before they had presentable levels
7:01 PM
the door texture is used on prerendered scenes, but the final model covers them up
7:03 PM
you can restore the rooms with the correct collision and enemies with a patch (dont use zelda edit ill provide a hardware compatible version)
7:04 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/download/y9vt4uuuiqf2atn/oot_debug_firetemple.zip
oot_debug_firetemple.zip
Aroenai's patch for the Debug Ocarina of Time Uncompressed release.
7:06 PM
its a bps one that restores a lot of locked ot features including the maps
Deleted User 6/26/2018 7:44 PM
@Deleted User Wow, cool patch! I just tested with the beta Stalfos room restored and will see what else I can find. Thanks for sharing!
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/26/2018 7:44 PM
Deleted User 6/26/2018 7:49 PM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT The term modded-to-look-like-beta seemed too long to use.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/26/2018 7:53 PM
the term
7:53 PM
modded
7:53 PM
is pretty easy to use
Deleted User 6/26/2018 7:54 PM
the mod just fixes broken stuff while working on real hardware
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/26/2018 7:55 PM
ah i see
7:55 PM
so its a fix, then
bendyfan101 6/26/2018 9:22 PM
I got to stay did anyone found a few unused content in the Octo expansion
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/26/2018 9:27 PM
of course
9:28 PM
not sure if its documented or not though
pingaslord98 6/26/2018 11:48 PM
In the so called modern Sonic games, are you ranked by the letters: ABCS?
divingkxt 6/26/2018 11:53 PM
Sonic Adventure 2 uses A, B, C, D, and E.
11:53 PM
https://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Rank
Rank
The Rank is a grading system used in the Sonic the Hedgehog series video games used to measure how well the player performed in a particular event of a game, the most common being completing a...
11:53 PM
S > A > B > C
pingaslord98 6/26/2018 11:54 PM
Ok. On the Sonic Adventure 1 page, there are a set of letters that I thought corresponded with rank. I might make an edit once my account gets approved.
11:57 PM
I feel like they modified it before releasing it.
divingkxt 6/26/2018 11:57 PM
https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Adventure_(Dreamcast)#HUD
Sonic Adventure (Dreamcast)
11:57 PM
Wait...you mean these letters listed as "Level Icons"?
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 12:10 AM
Yes.
divingkxt 6/27/2018 12:12 AM
Er, thing is...
12:13 AM
Missions are called something like Mission C, Mission B, and Mission A.
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 12:14 AM
Oh.
12:15 AM
I am a Sonic fanboy, but I'm not a big fan of the modern games.
Neko May 6/27/2018 12:17 AM
The "S" rank being superior to A is pretty common in Japan
12:17 AM
Also the use of E rather than F
divingkxt 6/27/2018 12:21 AM
True, but Sonic Adventure doesn't have that ranking system.
12:21 AM
Just a simple fail/pass thingy.
Deleted User 6/27/2018 12:23 AM
japan has been using that system way before sonic adventure (edited)
12:24 AM
even resident evil used it
Neko May 6/27/2018 12:38 AM
I just said that
Deleted User 6/27/2018 12:38 AM
ah
Δndrew P. 6/27/2018 1:50 AM
At least it wasnt as extra as sonic riders where in the tricks you do, you’re given: X > SS > S > AA > A > B > C
Neko May 6/27/2018 2:26 AM
Forza's car tiers go X > P > R > S > A > B > C > D > E
punk7890 6/27/2018 3:59 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1011881563393388545
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a large debug menu in Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of Time - Return (PS2) https://t.co/5lhReBfUQo This is basically the same as the previous two debug menus, with slightly less options. Contains the usual: Sound tests, level select, flag editors, debug information + more.
3:59 AM
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leilei 6/27/2018 3:59 AM
nice!
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/27/2018 4:00 AM
oops I exposed my twitter acc
4:00 AM
(dc)
4:01 AM
agh fuck chkdsk
punk7890 6/27/2018 4:02 AM
I still got 4 more Growlanser games to check
4:02 AM
probably same menu each time still
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/27/2018 4:03 AM
AAAAAAAAA
punk7890 6/27/2018 4:03 AM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/27/2018 4:03 AM
explodes
leilei 6/27/2018 4:03 AM
fsck chkdsk you mean
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/27/2018 4:10 AM
yea
4:10 AM
and windows is derp
4:11 AM
saying unable to repair
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/27/2018 9:42 AM
ey
MysticSageJosh 6/27/2018 10:27 AM
I think the ads qualify as unused content
10:27 AM
because no matter what i do, i can't get them to show up
Deleted User 6/27/2018 10:29 AM
are you on firefox
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 10:29 AM
Lucky. Those things are kinda distracting.
MysticSageJosh 6/27/2018 10:30 AM
yes
10:30 AM
i am on firefox
Deleted User 6/27/2018 10:30 AM
you'll need to turn this off
10:30 AM
Firefox's default block list includes our advertiser, despite them having no tracking functionality.
MysticSageJosh 6/27/2018 10:30 AM
oh
Deleted User 6/27/2018 10:31 AM
I think I tried adding an exception and it didn't work, but that was ages ago. You're welcome to test it out.
10:31 AM
The domain to whitelist should be `projectwonderful.com`
MysticSageJosh 6/27/2018 10:32 AM
it won't let me add shit
10:33 AM
Deleted User 6/27/2018 10:33 AM
lol
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/27/2018 10:36 AM
@Deleted User because porjectwonderful will be down
Neko May 6/27/2018 10:44 AM
No point, it's going away in August anyway. Just donate via PayPal.
10:44 AM
That's what I do.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/27/2018 10:50 AM
lel
10:50 AM
gb projectw
GerbilSoft 6/27/2018 10:53 AM
https://gbatemp.net/threads/turns-out-a-glitch-in-kirbys-adventure-breaks-your-disk-drive.509246/
Turns out a glitch in Kirby's Adventure breaks your disk drive
In Kirby's Adventure (Kirby's 20th Anniversary Collection) there is a glitch in World 6 that can crash your game. I tried doing this glitch on my Wii...
10:53 AM
uh
10:53 AM
what
Deleted User 6/27/2018 10:53 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] it's been blocked by firefox for at least a year
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/27/2018 10:53 AM
oh
10:53 AM
ok
10:55 AM
@GerbilSoft (if Kirby20th can access to boot2, that'll be amazing :p)
GerbilSoft 6/27/2018 10:55 AM
claims the system crashes whenever he puts a disc in now
Neko May 6/27/2018 10:56 AM
I don't even want to open that link. I can feel the stupid emanating from it.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/27/2018 10:56 AM
don't open it
GerbilSoft 6/27/2018 10:57 AM
Neko May 6/27/2018 10:57 AM
lol
Rena 6/27/2018 11:27 AM
Well maaaayyybe the glitch made it thrash the disc drive... but nah
Neko May 6/27/2018 11:28 AM
No way.
Δndrew P. 6/27/2018 12:59 PM
when people post stuff like that it makes me think if they were just dreaming it happened.
1:00 PM
The only way to prove it is recording. (edited)
rampy 6/27/2018 1:29 PM
1:29 PM
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 1:34 PM
Δndrew P. 6/27/2018 1:39 PM
i meant if it actually happened and it wasnt a dream
1:39 PM
uh
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 1:46 PM
To do: Record Dreams
Δndrew P. 6/27/2018 1:51 PM
kih
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 1:53 PM
What?
LarryLemmy 6/27/2018 3:06 PM
Don't you just hate it when you dream about getting a prototype you've been after for years only to realise it wasn't real?
Nex 6/27/2018 3:16 PM
said prototype would be?
LarryLemmy 6/27/2018 3:18 PM
Anything
blueskyrunner 6/27/2018 3:21 PM
That's happened to me orz
3:22 PM
Also the day a device that lets one record and then watch dreams is the day someone becomes a millionare (edited)
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 4:02 PM
Geez. Quiet today.
blueskyrunner 6/27/2018 4:03 PM
Yup
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 4:04 PM
I'm getting my tools installed. Ready to get searching!
4:05 PM
Even the irc was quiet for a while
DevEd 6/27/2018 4:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21F8DbVjyNA alberto jose gonzalez just posted some unreleased tracks from asterix (nes)
Alberto J. González
Asterix NES - discarded tracks
4:22 PM
one of them is from the GB version of asterix
goat 6/27/2018 4:27 PM
i actuallyhoped that kirby disk drive break thing earlier was real
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 4:28 PM
Is it ok if I just spellcheck the articles of tcrf, because I don't have the slightest idea on how to search for stuff.
Deleted User 6/27/2018 4:28 PM
if you see errors, yes
4:28 PM
but do not change wording for the sake of making an edit (edited)
leilei 6/27/2018 4:29 PM
also don't add jokes
4:29 PM
adding jokes is earned, not a right. or something like that
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 4:30 PM
Ok. This is what I do on wikipedia, so i'm pretty good at it.
4:30 PM
Not adding jokes, mind you.
4:30 PM
How do you add the NSFW warnings?
leilei 6/27/2018 4:31 PM
you're not going to pull a 'theres romses' on all the pages that contain the s or f word are you
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 4:31 PM
No! Of course not.
4:32 PM
I will probably look at some "examples" so I can get a good idea on what should be catogorized.
leilei 6/27/2018 4:33 PM
responsible contributors that find and add stuff typically do that on their own
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 4:34 PM
Ok. Take a look at F-15 Strike Eagle's page. Tell me what you think.
4:34 PM
Go to the notes page
4:35 PM
You know what, nevermind.
DarthDubඞ 6/27/2018 6:22 PM
hey guys, i got an nes game here that's completely loaded into memory and it borked my disc drive
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Neko May 6/27/2018 6:52 PM
All they asked is if they could proofread articles, which is menial work that nobody wants to do, and you immediately jump down their throat? And people say I overreact to things.
6:52 PM
@Deleted User @leilei
Neko May 6/27/2018 6:59 PM
@pingaslord98: You proofread all you like.
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 8:42 PM
How the heck does the IRC client work? I have no idea what it does. (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/27/2018 8:47 PM
so apparently the hidden unused dlc bosses in patapon 3 have even more hidden alt color schemes and unfinished models (edited)
8:48 PM
this one is my favorite
Rena 6/27/2018 8:50 PM
I caught missingno and my toaster broke
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pingaslord98 6/27/2018 8:50 PM
WHAAAAAAAT?
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/27/2018 8:53 PM
nice
Deleted User 6/27/2018 8:58 PM
@Neko May I'm not jumping down anyone's throat
8:58 PM
please stop trying to moderate.
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 9:00 PM
Thanks.
Neko May 6/27/2018 9:05 PM
@Deleted User: I'm not trying to moderate
9:05 PM
I don't appreciate being accused of it, either
9:07 PM
I usually proofread articles, too. All I do is fix typos or grammar (unless I'm not sure what they were trying to say, then I leave it alone).
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 9:08 PM
Anywhere that I should focus on?
Neko May 6/27/2018 9:08 PM
Proofreading never involves "adding jokes" and we're not just doing for "the sake of making edits"
9:08 PM
We see a typo or something, we fix it, everyone benefits.
9:09 PM
@pingaslord98: Personally, I just read articles for fun and do fixups as I see typos.
Deleted User 6/27/2018 9:09 PM
There's been a history of people proofreading edits and eventually changing wording just to do something. I simply asked they don't go down that route.
9:09 PM
And you were 100% attempting to moderate what I was saying.
9:09 PM
Stop.
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 9:10 PM
@Neko May Ok, I tried to use the "random page" function.
Deleted User 6/27/2018 9:14 PM
@pingaslord98 what are you trying to do on irc?
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 9:15 PM
@Deleted User I just wanted to know what the bot actually did.
Neko May 6/27/2018 9:16 PM
It just relays stuff to and from #irc and the IRC server
9:16 PM
#tcrf on irc.badnik.net
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 9:17 PM
Ok, thanks.
Deleted User 6/27/2018 9:18 PM
I am trying to use irc more, because I'm mad at discord for some reason I don't remember
9:20 PM
let me try something stupid
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 9:21 PM
Go ahead.
pingaslord98 6/27/2018 9:45 PM
Have a great night, and I will see you all in the morning. Have fun...doing whatever you do.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/27/2018 9:49 PM
update
9:49 PM
hidden dlc boss alt color schemes arent alt color scemes
9:49 PM
9:50 PM
i didnt have my recorder ready when i was making this
9:53 PM
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/27/2018 10:02 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/27/2018 10:41 PM
lol @ moderation propriety
divingkxt 6/27/2018 10:42 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:Unused1.png
File:Unused1.png
10:43 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:Unused3.png <- This is used in the game's intro!
File:Unused3.png
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/27/2018 10:43 PM
moderates a panel on Eggos
divingkxt 6/27/2018 10:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHjiUOQ_4dg&t=2m30s
World of Longplays
SNES Longplay [054] Mega Man 7
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/27/2018 10:43 PM
yay
divingkxt 6/27/2018 10:44 PM
Og wait...
DarthDubඞ 6/27/2018 10:44 PM
it looks different
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/27/2018 10:46 PM
is there still stuff being found in SotN?
DarthDubඞ 6/27/2018 10:46 PM
yeah pizza
divingkxt 6/27/2018 10:48 PM
IIRC, Mega Man 7 had something like a 6 month development or some shit.
10:49 PM
Part of why the game is underwhelming to many.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 6/27/2018 10:51 PM
but Roll
DarthDubඞ 6/27/2018 10:51 PM
i liked it
10:52 PM
at least it didn't look like mega man 1 ad infinitum
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/27/2018 11:06 PM
i really like MM7
11:06 PM
but i could see why people wouldnt think much of it after the X series which had a ton of abilities and shit and really fast gameplay (edited)
ShiniiLevii 6/27/2018 11:11 PM
speaking of the x series
11:11 PM
In the X collections X5's Mavericks are having new names
11:11 PM
no more GNR names
11:12 PM
well Names based off GNR to be specific
MysticSageJosh 6/27/2018 11:13 PM
no GNR names?
11:13 PM
throws table
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/27/2018 11:13 PM
“In our mission to make these collections an authentic Mega Man X experience, we took the opportunity to better align the naming of the Mega Man X5 Mavericks across all regions for better narrative cohesion across the series, making the names more aligned with the original Japanese version release. We hope that fans appreciate our intent to unify the Mega Man X Maverick-naming convention all these years later.”
MysticSageJosh 6/27/2018 11:14 PM
I'm hacking the game to have the original names
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/27/2018 11:14 PM
id like to see if nintendo was one day like "you know, to better align with the original japanese version, we reverted every english name to japanese"
MysticSageJosh 6/27/2018 11:14 PM
i will release a patch
ShiniiLevii 6/27/2018 11:15 PM
hopefully they can do the same and fix X6
11:15 PM
like not change the names
11:15 PM
but just fix it in general
DarthDubඞ 6/27/2018 11:58 PM
i hope x6 will have the dubbing from the ps1 version
divingkxt 6/28/2018 12:16 AM
Nice one.
12:17 AM
Assuming Capcom somehow preserved X6's source code.
12:18 AM
Possible, but would be heavily tied to the PS1.
12:18 AM
Also, no idea how to get in touch with the original designers.
Klitlika 6/28/2018 1:16 AM
https://tcrf.net/Final_Fantasy_VIII/Unused_Text would like to add more unused text...
Unused Text
☎ 6/28/2018 5:14 AM
How do I mark a file for deletion?
☎ 6/28/2018 7:09 AM
figured it out
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/28/2018 9:07 AM
Hmm
9:07 AM
9:07 AM
Patapon 1 loads in a bunch of tests in the main menu (edited)
9:07 AM
Hopefully viewable stuff
old acc! inactive 6/28/2018 9:55 AM
so turns out Kirby: Planet Robobot does have unused content after all
9:55 AM
mainly unused move variations for the Mirror ability (edited)
9:57 AM
(used)
9:57 AM
(unused)
9:57 AM
(unused 2)
Halfbit 6/28/2018 10:59 AM
I like MM7
10:59 AM
Also it was in development for 3 months
FMecha 6/28/2018 12:40 PM
Hmmm http://www.psxdev.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=1499
12:41 PM
Psychic Detective's anti-piracy stuff
pingaslord98 6/28/2018 1:41 PM
Is there any one page on tcrf that needs some help with it's grammar?
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/28/2018 1:43 PM
Maybe patapon 3
1:43 PM
I'm not done with the subpages though so don't dare go there lol
pingaslord98 6/28/2018 1:49 PM
Ok. I'm a SPELLCHECKER!
Cuyler 6/28/2018 2:28 PM
We've got non-standard NES games fully loading in Animal Crossing now
2
2:28 PM
Metroid for example
2:28 PM
https://puu.sh/ANyUj/98d0a8bb3f.mp4
pingaslord98 6/28/2018 2:36 PM
Nice
blueskyrunner 6/28/2018 2:42 PM
Hard to believe it took this long to discover this functionality
2:42 PM
Wait, does it have sound?
SimLola661 6/28/2018 2:55 PM
So, the Animal Crossing NES emulator is fully functional? Cool!
Cuyler 6/28/2018 3:49 PM
It does have sound
3:49 PM
I just don't have sound recording enabled
3:50 PM
The only thing we don't have working in saving, but that should be resolved soon
3:50 PM
It does save, but it doesn't save all the data
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 4:20 PM
how does it rank emulator wise?
4:20 PM
is it accurate?
jotaropowered 6/28/2018 4:29 PM
@GerbilSoft Where would we discuss any edits to articles or do we just do em?
GerbilSoft 6/28/2018 4:30 PM
depends on if it's a huge edit or controversial or whatnot
4:30 PM
if you think you need to discuss it, use the Talk page for a given article
4:30 PM
otherwise just do it
jotaropowered 6/28/2018 4:32 PM
I have much a shit ton of information on 06
Cuyler 6/28/2018 5:22 PM
@MysticSageJosh It appears to be pretty accurate
5:22 PM
it even runs homebrew and modded titles fine
jotaropowered 6/28/2018 5:54 PM
To whoever wrote the original cutting room floor article for 06
5:54 PM
The TGS 05 animations are not custom
Neko May 6/28/2018 6:54 PM
@Cuyler: What about mapper support?
Cuyler 6/28/2018 7:11 PM
Seems like it has full mapper support, but we're not 100% sure yet
7:12 PM
I'll look into it more after I get saving to work properly @Neko May
Neko May 6/28/2018 7:58 PM
@Cuyler: Cool. I'm just wondering if it will play pirate carts. ;3
7:58 PM
100-in-1 Contra Function
7:58 PM
(I think that was the first multicart ever emulated)
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:13 PM
It plays the Forbidden four multi-cart
8:13 PM
that was made from the AC games
8:14 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363525805269188611/461980511628165120/image.jpg @Neko May
8:14 PM
that's being run on AC apparently
Dos 6/28/2018 8:16 PM
nice logo
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:21 PM
Hm....
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:28 PM
@Cuyler: I wonder who they stole the code from....
8:29 PM
If it runs Contra Function, it's definitely stolen code
Revenant 6/28/2018 8:45 PM
forbidden four uses the same mapper as legend of zelda and like 200 other games, it's not exactly exotic
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:47 PM
I can test a few games
8:47 PM
I'm not familiar with the various NES mappers, so if anyone has a list of games that don't play nice with NES emulators, I can try them
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:52 PM
Basically any pirate mapper should probably fail
8:53 PM
Toss a handful of pirate multicarts and HKOs on there and see if any work.
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:53 PM
alright
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:54 PM
If any would be likely to work, it's 100-in-1 Contra Function
Revenant 6/28/2018 8:54 PM
color dreams/wisdom tree games would probably also be good candidates
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:55 PM
That one's been around for quite some time
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:55 PM
It's possible the multicarts may not load due to their size
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:55 PM
"100-in-1 Contra 16 Function"
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:56 PM
Yeah I'm trying that one now
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:56 PM
Oh, you have to try Action 52, of course
8:56 PM
The Contra one only has 34 actual games
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:57 PM
So far so good
8:57 PM
8:57 PM
And nope
8:57 PM
it failed
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:58 PM
Hm....
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:58 PM
It could be due to the size of the game
8:58 PM
I'm not sure how much RAM is allocated for the NES ROM
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:58 PM
There's the Caltron 6-in-1
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:58 PM
oh yeah
8:58 PM
it definitely won't load at 0x102040 bytes long
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:59 PM
You could also try things like Kart Fighter
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:59 PM
it has to be 0xFFFF0 bytes or less
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:59 PM
Ah
Cuyler 6/28/2018 8:59 PM
alright I'll try a few more
Neko May 6/28/2018 8:59 PM
I'm looking at the list of mappers on nesdev, see if I can pick a few
Revenant 6/28/2018 9:00 PM
try crystal mines, it's only 80kb but uses an unlicensed mapper
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:00 PM
I'm wondering if some of the official but non-Nintendo mappers will function
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:01 PM
I'm trying crystal mines
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:01 PM
Your limit is 1024752 bytes
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:01 PM
yeah
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:01 PM
1.02 mb , btw ,
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:01 PM
the rom size is limited to that because there's a short that tells the cart size
9:01 PM
and the calculation is done like this
9:02 PM
RomSize = (StoredSize << 4)
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:02 PM
Ah.
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:02 PM
Crystal Mines seems to be a no-go too
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:02 PM
Bummer
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:02 PM
what about mega man?
9:02 PM
i'm just curious
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:02 PM
I think megaman works
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:03 PM
Have you tried non-Nintendo mappers?
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:03 PM
what about kirby's adventure
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:03 PM
i don't know much about "non nintendo mapppers" or whatever
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:03 PM
Kirby's adventure works
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:03 PM
or try action 52
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:03 PM
Most Konami games used their own
9:03 PM
Action 52 is too big, IINM
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:03 PM
kk
Revenant 6/28/2018 9:03 PM
try the japanese version of contra
9:03 PM
the american version uses a nintendo mapper iirc
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:04 PM
Yeah, most NES games used Nintendo mappers, while Famicom devs had a lot more freedom
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:04 PM
dragon quest 4? (edited)
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:05 PM
Metal Slader Glory was the largest official game; I think it may be too large, however
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:05 PM
I'm trying Japanese Contra atm
9:06 PM
The max size should be 1.048MB
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:07 PM
0xFFFF0 is only going to give you 1024752B though.
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:07 PM
famicom metroid , probs ? - ? . (edited)
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:07 PM
Just short of 1MiB
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:07 PM
FFFF0 gives this many bytes
9:07 PM
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:07 PM
so , if not 1mb , then can not play ? - ? .
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:07 PM
Hm
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:07 PM
If it's greater than 1MB it won't run
9:08 PM
Contra Japanese runs
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:08 PM
confused now .
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:08 PM
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:08 PM
Mega Man 2?
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:08 PM
Cool.
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:08 PM
but does FamiCom Metroid Work .
Revenant 6/28/2018 9:08 PM
famicom metroid doesn't exist
9:08 PM
@Cuyler is it actually playable
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:09 PM
the metroid that uses the sram like zelda 1 .
9:09 PM
disk system metroid* . (edited)
9:09 PM
but nvm .
9:10 PM
hey cuy , does battletoads work ,
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:10 PM
It is @Revenant
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:11 PM
dumb question , but smb3 ? - ? . (edited)
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:11 PM
I don't think my image/video application is going to upload properly
9:11 PM
nvm
9:11 PM
https://puu.sh/ANKqO/f1cb472029.mp4
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:11 PM
Awesome, so it supports more than just Nintendo mappers, too.
9:11 PM
That's definitely interesting
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:11 PM
I have audio disabled in record, so that's why there isn't audio
9:11 PM
but it does play it
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:12 PM
i got like 1 thing left to ask , or 2 , idk ,.
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:12 PM
Because it points to the possibility they they did appropriate the code
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:12 PM
dragon's lair/prince of persia .
leilei 6/28/2018 9:12 PM
castlevania iii
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:13 PM
wus gunna say that , but i did not want to over whelm him .
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:13 PM
I think most authorized games should run
9:13 PM
I'll try castlevania 3
leilei 6/28/2018 9:13 PM
but does cv3 scroll
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:13 PM
but does contra , dragon's lair (nes) or prince of persia (nes) work . (edited)
leilei 6/28/2018 9:13 PM
also what about dark games like some eurocoms
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:14 PM
idk .
9:14 PM
but i gotta split , probs gunna be back in about 2 - 3 , cause , on the xp ,
leilei 6/28/2018 9:14 PM
the immortal
Deleted User 6/28/2018 9:14 PM
so make like a banana then split .
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:17 PM
Looks like Castlevania 3 works
9:17 PM
https://puu.sh/ANKzO/d506139398.mp4
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:19 PM
Playing an emulator inside of an emulator
9:19 PM
dude, this is trippy
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:19 PM
There are also tags (which tell the emulator to use specific settings rather than general settings or the settings in the game)
9:19 PM
Once we figure out what each of those does, it's possible we can get other games booting that wouldn't before
9:20 PM
But currently it looks like most official titles boot
9:20 PM
and play just fine
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:20 PM
I'm seriously curious
9:20 PM
mega man 2
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:20 PM
I'll check but I'm fairly certain it'll run fine
Revenant 6/28/2018 9:21 PM
the color dreams pirate mapper was one of the earliest mappers to be emulated (it was documented in 1997 if not earlier) so if crystal mines and other such games don't work but konami VRC games (and MMC3 games e.g. kirby's adventure) do work then it's unlikely to be a reused third party emulator
Neko May 6/28/2018 9:21 PM
That's pretty cool.
divingkxt 6/28/2018 9:21 PM
Try an emulator within an emulator within an emulator.
9:21 PM
A Chip-8 emu in a NES emu in a GC emu (edited)
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:21 PM
Yeah it's not
9:21 PM
They use their own emulator
9:21 PM
The tags are proof of that
divingkxt 6/28/2018 9:22 PM
Further, Animal Crossing has a shitton of symbols left in its data.
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:22 PM
It has all the symbols left
9:22 PM
I wrote a plugin to map them to ida (edited)
divingkxt 6/28/2018 9:23 PM
I believe this may have been noted in another topic.
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:23 PM
Yeah I think it has been
9:23 PM
It's been a godsend though
divingkxt 6/28/2018 9:23 PM
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=18043
Jul -- General Game/ROM Hacking: List of retail games with debuggi...
Hello everyone. I would like this post to be a list of video games (any platforms) that are shipped with debugging symbols. Please let us know if you know an...
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:23 PM
scurry programming talk
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:23 PM
Because it would've been a major pain to do it without it
leilei 6/28/2018 9:23 PM
any remnant of this in the n64 one?
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:24 PM
Possibly
9:24 PM
Does the original N64 one have the standalone NES in it?
9:24 PM
If it does, then it probably has functionality
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:25 PM
i'm on this website and it DOES say In Doubutsu no Mori and Doubutsu no Mori+
9:25 PM
Dobutsu no Mori is the original "animal forest"
9:25 PM
right?
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:26 PM
Mega Man 2 works
9:27 PM
also, I can't say for sure
9:27 PM
I haven't done much work with DnM
9:27 PM
although my save editor works on it, I can't remember if it has that item or not
9:27 PM
@MysticSageJosh https://puu.sh/ANKPO/14bfaf4c74.mp4
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:28 PM
Smh picking flash man first
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:29 PM
I've never played a mega man game before lmao
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:29 PM
basically the optimal thing to is pick metal man first, because metal man's weapon can take down most of the bosses (edited)
Revenant 6/28/2018 9:29 PM
plus metal man is the easiest boss anyway
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:29 PM
easiest boss, most OP weapon
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:30 PM
Does anyone know if speedrunning on an emulator inside another emulator is against the rules?
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:30 PM
Windows Crash
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:30 PM
Some how I don't think a speed boost is that likely
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:30 PM
I think we found like... a loophole
9:30 PM
hold on i got to talk to some professionals
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:30 PM
lol
9:31 PM
I'll have a program up for it relatively soon
9:31 PM
right now it's command line only
leilei 6/28/2018 9:35 PM
dudes with attitude? a week of garfield?
9:35 PM
not exotic enough i know
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:37 PM
Cuyler 6/28/2018 9:38 PM
Lol
leilei 6/28/2018 9:38 PM
what about running pcsx2 emulating a ps2 emulating a psx emulating sega master system
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 9:39 PM
what
9:39 PM
what about a PS3 using retroarch to emulate a GBA emulating a NES (edited)
leilei 6/28/2018 9:40 PM
9:41 PM
a sms port of an arcade game at that
Dos 6/28/2018 9:52 PM
serious post: AC emulator would probably be its own category like Mario 64 on N64 vs Wii VC vs iQue, etc etc
9:52 PM
but if it did end up being #1 at something people would use it so heck yeah
Deleted User 6/28/2018 10:24 PM
k back .
cuba200611 6/28/2018 10:36 PM
Test if Castlevania 3 (US version) works... @Cuyler (edited)
10:37 PM
No, wait, that's probally too big.
Cuyler 6/28/2018 10:38 PM
Well the Japanese version worked
10:38 PM
Anyways
10:38 PM
if you guys want to test out your own games
10:38 PM
https://github.com/Cuyler36/ACNESCreator/releases/tag/V1.0
Cuyler36/ACNESCreator
ACNESCreator - A program that creates Animal Crossing NES ROM save files for Animal Crossing to load
10:39 PM
Only works on Windows
cuba200611 6/28/2018 10:39 PM
Did the emulator play back the enhanced sound, or no?
Cuyler 6/28/2018 10:39 PM
It does
10:39 PM
I just had my sound recording disabled
cuba200611 6/28/2018 10:39 PM
Ok, so it has full VRC6 support then.
Cuyler 6/28/2018 10:41 PM
Yeah I think so?
10:41 PM
I'm not familiar with NES hardware
10:42 PM
Also, you need the regular NES (item id 0x1DF4)
10:42 PM
none of the ones with games will work
jotaropowered 6/28/2018 11:45 PM
Speaking of emulators
11:45 PM
Xenia is actually somewhat decent now
jotaropowered 6/28/2018 11:56 PM
@GerbilSoft I am well versed in modding btw, can I add anything I've else I've found to the TCRF page for the piece of shit 06?
GerbilSoft 6/28/2018 11:57 PM
i guess?
divingkxt 6/28/2018 11:58 PM
@jotaropowered Like what?
jotaropowered 6/28/2018 11:59 PM
Unused Voice Clips mostly.
11:59 PM
In terms of modding though
11:59 PM
I have found a lot of shit
MysticSageJosh 6/28/2018 11:59 PM
figure out how the shield is activated
12:00 AM
we need that on the page
jotaropowered 6/29/2018 12:00 AM
Okay
12:00 AM
I also have a way to show extra characters on the selection.
12:01 AM
But that's more modding
12:02 AM
Exploit in the code
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/29/2018 12:02 AM
sonic 06 had dlc?
12:02 AM
neat
divingkxt 6/29/2018 12:02 AM
Unused Voice Clips = Cool
12:03 AM
Sonic 06 was planned to have more DLC.
12:03 AM
I think the only DLC released was some Hard Mode stuff.
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/29/2018 12:03 AM
sounds lame
12:03 AM
guess thats why ive never heard of it
divingkxt 6/29/2018 12:04 AM
Same goes for most people.
jotaropowered 6/29/2018 12:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYQYDE4Papw
Renegadesaiyan
For the Cutting Room floor
12:09 AM
Added this link
12:10 AM
@divingkxt There are several unused clips, at least about 30 per character.
leilei 6/29/2018 12:11 AM
can xenia run the xbox emulator
jotaropowered 6/29/2018 12:11 AM
I wish
12:11 AM
It can run some games
Deleted User 6/29/2018 12:11 AM
http://xenia.jp/
xenia - Xbox 360 Research Emulator
xenia is a BSD licensed open source research project for emulating Xbox 360 games on modern PCs.
jotaropowered 6/29/2018 12:11 AM
At this point
SkicoNow 6/29/2018 12:11 AM
https://youtu.be/1AUDeueWrp0 I think I found some unused Bowser sound clips from Super Mario 64 DS (edited)
SkicoNow
Beautiful Bowser Noises
leilei 6/29/2018 12:12 AM
last i checked it ran g force hilariously
jotaropowered 6/29/2018 12:18 AM
@divingkxt I happen to have also found the leftovers of an unused crisis layout in 06
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/29/2018 12:46 AM
so i think i found about 5 more debug menus in patapon... geez, how many do they need?
12:46 AM
will update later
Deleted User 6/29/2018 1:43 AM
GUYS
1:43 AM
I RECORDED SOMETHING AMAZING
1:43 AM
@Xkeeper
1:43 AM
EVERYONE
1:44 AM
I AM LEAKING FOOTAGE OF THE NEW POKEMON GAME
Xkeeper 6/29/2018 1:44 AM
right.
Deleted User 6/29/2018 1:44 AM
https://gyazo.com/5869c78d30f9f617aadf19406da7a0c0
1:44 AM
THATS NOT EVEN ON THE NEWS
1:44 AM
THIS IS NOT EVEN OUT PUBLICY
1:46 AM
@Xkeeper You watched it?
Xkeeper 6/29/2018 1:46 AM
it looks like a shitty fangame.
Deleted User 6/29/2018 1:46 AM
The Pokemon game is still in dev
1:47 AM
You cant blame them
Xkeeper 6/29/2018 1:48 AM
the fact the names are in english is also a big red flag.
Deleted User 6/29/2018 1:49 AM
I just found out where i got the ROM from
1:49 AM
It was fake
Xkeeper 6/29/2018 1:51 AM
congrats
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/29/2018 2:02 AM
hahaha
Neko May 6/29/2018 2:04 AM
double facepalm
jotaropowered 6/29/2018 2:06 AM
Nex 6/29/2018 2:52 AM
who could have thought its fake
☎ 6/29/2018 5:02 AM
it looks like ROBLOX a little
5:03 AM
Are there any programs to batch convert .tga into .png?
☎ 6/29/2018 5:15 AM
I found some Convertio site but it seems sketchy.
Nex 6/29/2018 5:23 AM
irfanview (edited)
leilei 6/29/2018 6:51 AM
could literally have a batch file to imagemagick them all
☎ 6/29/2018 7:40 AM
When listing unused models or textures in an early build of a game, do I include every model or texture that's unused in that particular build even if they are used in the retail game? (edited)
GerbilSoft 6/29/2018 8:53 AM
>look at that fake Pokemon game
8:53 AM
lol
8:53 AM
Also er, "rom"?
8:53 AM
@Deleted User what system was that "rom" for
Revenant 6/29/2018 8:55 AM
the nintendo unity asset store
GerbilSoft 6/29/2018 8:55 AM
:v
Deleted User 6/29/2018 9:33 AM
Hello
Dezent 6/29/2018 9:52 AM
Hey hey
Xkeeper 6/29/2018 12:17 PM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/1012730842030829568
4
5
3
Nex 6/29/2018 12:22 PM
lmao, thanks for the laugh
FMecha 6/29/2018 12:26 PM
The proto scammer at work again?
Dezent 6/29/2018 12:29 PM
Is that seriously the guy I think who it is?
Nex 6/29/2018 12:30 PM
its the one and only
12:30 PM
npzman
Dezent 6/29/2018 12:33 PM
Fucking
12:33 PM
lmao
12:33 PM
How much energy does that twerp have
Nex 6/29/2018 12:38 PM
infinite
blueskyrunner 6/29/2018 12:38 PM
How does someone come to the conclusion that's a good use of their time
Nex 6/29/2018 12:38 PM
I wish I had as much energy as this guy
blueskyrunner 6/29/2018 12:38 PM
Imagine being that stupid and desperate...
12:38 PM
What a waste (edited)
Rena 6/29/2018 12:38 PM
It's amazing how much effort some people will put into being idiots
3
blueskyrunner 6/29/2018 12:38 PM
Indeed
12:39 PM
You should mute him
12:39 PM
That way, he won't know that you're not seeing his messages, and he'll continue wasting his time never knowing it's all for naught
12:39 PM
Way better than blocking, I think
Dezent 6/29/2018 12:40 PM
Thankfully he's not here, unless he's hiding under an alt or something
blueskyrunner 6/29/2018 12:40 PM
I mean, he seems to have a way of making himself known
12:40 PM
I feel like if he was here, we'd know
Dezent 6/29/2018 12:41 PM
True
Xkeeper 6/29/2018 12:41 PM
i don't block him because occasionally he sends me something wacky like this shit
blueskyrunner 6/29/2018 12:45 PM
Hm?
Revenant 6/29/2018 1:49 PM
just keep replying with "are you a girl"
1:49 PM
pro npzman strats
blueskyrunner 6/29/2018 1:51 PM
^^^^^^
GerbilSoft 6/29/2018 2:07 PM
>are you a girl
2:07 PM
2:07 PM
derpcord isn't embedding it for some reason
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/29/2018 2:08 PM
thought it was just me
GerbilSoft 6/29/2018 2:08 PM
it's been having weird issues for a few hours now
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/29/2018 2:08 PM
did the X3 title shot embed either?
GerbilSoft 6/29/2018 2:08 PM
nope
2:12 PM
... suddenly a wild embedded GIF appears
Rena 6/29/2018 2:37 PM
Embed worked fine here
Dezent 6/29/2018 2:44 PM
Works fine here too
DevEd 6/29/2018 6:27 PM
found an unused message in The Light Corridor (ZX Spectrum)
6:27 PM
"joe mc alby" is actually alberto jose gonzalez btw
FMecha 6/29/2018 7:10 PM
Looks like Byuu did another purge/reset, so the Mega Man X rewiring tweet is lost (edited)
Revenant 6/29/2018 7:16 PM
bummer
7:17 PM
i should have uploaded the image back when i originally meant to
MysticSageJosh 6/29/2018 7:20 PM
I sometimes wonder why i'm even here lol
7:20 PM
i don't know anything about programming, i don't know how to edit pages, i don't know how to datamine for unused content, etc
Dezent 6/29/2018 7:22 PM
I'm here to shitpost to be fair, I don't know anything of those either, with the exception of some C code I learned in ICT... I just like the place, plus I'm really interested in unused / cut content, regardless of the game
7:22 PM
Plus, the people in here are awesome
PlugMeister 6/29/2018 8:04 PM
I'm mainly here to help with regional differences stuff if needed
ErnestoAM 6/29/2018 8:07 PM
I'm here to be one of those many guys who have no idea what people are talking about.
MysticSageJosh 6/29/2018 8:07 PM
same
ShiniiLevii 6/29/2018 8:09 PM
i was here around the time when the pokemon spaceworld demo surfaced and now im here contributing to the site(tcrf), despite not being a tech guy or not knowing alot about programming
8:10 PM
but doing the best i can do
ErnestoAM 6/29/2018 8:11 PM
I did make that Namco Museum Remix page. Made me feel special for around 1 second before I released how I even managed to get into the ISO.
8:13 PM
And honestly I could contribute to that Plants vs. Zombies 2 page, but there's just so much to document such as unused plants, text, levels, etc. that it'll be too much for me to do by myself.
8:13 PM
It may be a shitty mobile game, but that game has a treasure trove of unused content. (edited)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/29/2018 9:13 PM
@Dezent i've banned pretty much all of his alts lmao
9:14 PM
one of them messaged me but then deleted said message i check the mutual servers and what do you know, he's in the cartoon network server and the tcrf server
MysticSageJosh 6/29/2018 9:37 PM
this NPZMan guy sounds like a colorful character
divingkxt 6/29/2018 10:06 PM
There's a whole server dedicated to his nutty escapades.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/29/2018 10:17 PM
I wonder if it would be worth documenting stuff like this on the page for Half-Life 2? "kl_whatsbest.wav" doesn't exist in the files at all
10:17 PM
this was found in level_sounds_trainyard
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/29/2018 10:18 PM
PITCH_NORM
10:18 PM
pingaslord98 6/29/2018 10:22 PM
I feel like I should investigate the Steam application itself.
divingkxt 6/29/2018 11:02 PM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 We already do something like this for the Duke Nukem 3D page.
jotaropowered 6/29/2018 11:12 PM
@divingkxt found something extremely interesting that I can contribute to the article of 06
divingkxt 6/29/2018 11:31 PM
https://dolphin-emu.org/download/dev/e22c5333ab50c3e84774ce831eaeba48bcea5901/
Dolphin Emulator
11:31 PM
RIP WxWidgets in Dolphin
11:31 PM
2003-2018
GerbilSoft 6/29/2018 11:37 PM
They finally killed it?
divingkxt 6/29/2018 11:38 PM
Yes.
GerbilSoft 6/30/2018 12:06 AM
meanwhile, in another guild
12:06 AM
`[11:38 PM] The_Sonic_Man_YT: does anyone have a good sonic and knuckles rom [11:38 PM] The_Sonic_Man_YT: for dolphin emulator`
12:06 AM
MysticSageJosh 6/30/2018 12:10 AM
bruh
12:10 AM
why the fuck do they need a sonic and knuckles rom
ErnestoAM 6/30/2018 12:10 AM
Much grammar
MysticSageJosh 6/30/2018 12:10 AM
for DOLPHIN
Patapon Fanatic #3 6/30/2018 12:15 AM
ah yes
12:16 AM
sonic and knuckles for gamecube
12:16 AM
my favorite game
12:16 AM
released in the year 20XX
WarioBarker 6/30/2018 12:16 AM
Saw the discussion earlier about Animal Crossing's built-in NES emulator and I was curious: Will it load the FDS BIOS? I ask because the disk version of Clu Clu Land is one of the games you can obtain in Animal Crossing (listed as "Clu Clu Land D" by the in-game text). (edited)
Neko May 6/30/2018 1:09 AM
It may just accept FDS images
1:10 AM
That, or Nintendo did a pirate port of it themselves
ErnestoAM 6/30/2018 1:19 AM
I go with latter
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/30/2018 1:48 AM
what Animal Crossing tho
MysticSageJosh 6/30/2018 2:05 AM
the gamecube one
Deleted User 6/30/2018 2:18 AM
https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48441 enjoy the show.
2:21 AM
Or by that I mean watch people be stupid
2:21 AM
And use a different ftp client
eientei 6/30/2018 2:22 AM
@Neko May @ErnestoAM No. The FDS games in Animal Crossing are the same format as what would later be seen in the 3DS VC. They're dumps of FDS disks with checksums intact (which the .fds format doesn't do)
2:28 AM
@Deleted User Holy shit
2:28 AM
>Dangerously ignorant user. Not matching filename = the checksum is NOT for that file.
Deleted User 6/30/2018 2:28 AM
`The IP's and domains we see tofufeti.exe connecting to are: 54.225.173.220 on tcp/80 (goquc.com) 52.84.25.26 on tcp/80 (d39ievd5spb5kl.cloudfront.net) 34.208.177.52 on tcp/80 (gubuh.com) Random unsigned processes reaching out to random sites with no content over port 80 is typically a sign of malware beaconing.` (edited)
2:29 AM
Can't argue with that
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/30/2018 3:02 AM
ahahaha
Neko May 6/30/2018 3:43 AM
Wow, well, no more FileZilla, that's for sure.
eientei 6/30/2018 3:45 AM
FIlezilla on Linux. Problem solved
3:46 AM
@Neko May Just use `ftp`
Dos 6/30/2018 3:49 AM
FileZilla on Windows went to shit years ago and has ads for like hosting providers when you launch it now
eientei 6/30/2018 3:55 AM
Thunderbird tries to set you up with an account on a paid web host
3:55 AM
On all OS
FMecha 6/30/2018 3:57 AM
Prerelase screenshot of Shutokou Battle PSP (Street Supremacy)
3:57 AM
@eientei which one?
eientei 6/30/2018 3:58 AM
Gimme a sec
4:03 AM
@FMecha It's worse. It asks "Would you like a new email address?" and when you type in what you'd presume to be your nickname and press search, it searches gandi.net for that name as a domain name
4:03 AM
The search terms used are sent to Mozilla (Privacy Policy) and to 3rd party email providers gandi.net (Privacy Policy, Terms of Service) to find available email addresses.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 6/30/2018 4:05 AM
gandhi
Neko May 6/30/2018 4:33 AM
I mean, they have to make money SOMEHOW
4:33 AM
At least it's not by bundling fucking malware
punk7890 6/30/2018 4:43 AM
Hmm. I've had FileZilla installed for sometime now
Dezent 6/30/2018 5:00 AM
Same, but the version prolly is real old
eientei 6/30/2018 5:01 AM
I remember using Filezilla on ME
leilei 6/30/2018 5:10 AM
my goto used to be bulletproof ftp
5:10 AM
and cuteftp and smartftp
5:10 AM
and before all of thsoe wsftp
eientei 6/30/2018 5:41 AM
I only know of one person who has purchased CuteFTP
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/30/2018 9:18 AM
WinSCP?
Borman 6/30/2018 11:50 AM
I just switched to WinSCP myself
divingkxt 6/30/2018 12:15 PM
WinSCP all the way.
Rena 6/30/2018 12:45 PM
The hash doesn't match because the filename doesn't match.
12:46 PM
HASHES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY.
Revenant 6/30/2018 12:47 PM
i think they were trying to say "the hash doesn't match because it's not even supposed to be the same file"
12:49 PM
not looking at the thread atm but iirc they were talking about the "clean" installer vs the regular bundled one
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/30/2018 12:54 PM
yep
Neko May 6/30/2018 12:58 PM
The fact that they were alerted to blatantly obvious malware and DID NOT CARE is what really tells you everything you need to know.
12:59 PM
In fact, their insistence on focusing on the hash/signature and handwaving of malware behavior indicates possible complicity.
Rena 6/30/2018 1:04 PM
Yup, either they're completely clueless or they did it on purpose. Either way, steer clear.
divingkxt 6/30/2018 1:05 PM
@Rena Where is this?
Rena 6/30/2018 1:05 PM
Scroll up
1:05 PM
It's in the forum thread
divingkxt 6/30/2018 1:05 PM
Oh, the Filezilla forum thread.
1:05 PM
DORP
GerbilSoft 6/30/2018 1:06 PM
dammit, somehow hit a heisenbug in rom-properties
1:06 PM
the thunar version is crashing when viewing properties, and thumbnailing isn't working
1:06 PM
in the debug build it's not crashing (but thumbnailing still isn't working)
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/30/2018 1:07 PM
The hash doesn't match because the filename doesn't match.
THE HASH SLINGING SLASHER
Hiccup 6/30/2018 1:26 PM
All this time, Super Mario Galaxy's internal project name has been there in the main AudioRes szs's filename: "SMR". Probably short for "Super Mario Revolution".
1:26 PM
Not that surprising. Its said to be "Super Mario Revolution" in the Wikipedia article, but with no source. (edited)
divingkxt 6/30/2018 1:27 PM
https://twitter.com/official_pcf13/status/1012935081290321920
PCF13 (@official_pcf13)
@CuttingRoomWiki Am I allowed to request a game to be featured on TCRF?
1:27 PM
Pro tip - Anyone can.
GerbilSoft 6/30/2018 1:46 PM
welp, figured out two bugs
1:46 PM
1. forgot to disable LTO on the IFUNC modules in the GTK UIs
1:46 PM
2. it's not properly detecting local filenames
rareblin 6/30/2018 1:46 PM
why has nobody ever talked about this unused thing (unless im an idiot and it is used)
GerbilSoft 6/30/2018 1:49 PM
...actually #2 isn't a bug - i just didn't set it up right
Borman 6/30/2018 2:17 PM
Still no easy way to load a .dpf file on Dolphin? One day Ill check out these alpha builds of Serious Sam
divingkxt 6/30/2018 2:36 PM
@rareblin Egg Reverie Zone
rareblin 6/30/2018 2:36 PM
i know
2:36 PM
it isn't used though
Dr. RNG 6/30/2018 3:05 PM
found this in BLiNX: the time sweeper's demo and final builds. I had to use an emulator to find this.
3:08 PM
I also found an E3 screen, but it is already on the tcrf page. all it is is a picture with the stage select theme playing in the background.
3:10 PM
the demo may have more stuff though... the final version made the sound test less functional.
3:12 PM
https://youtu.be/2w0HAL-oVhk this has both screens (in the final game)
Blinx The Time Sweeper GOD
BLiNX: the time sweeper Unused screens
3:16 PM
I'm going to check the other demos now
divingkxt 6/30/2018 3:17 PM
@rareblin Well then, add it to the page.
3:17 PM
Or least upload it.
Deleted User 6/30/2018 3:18 PM
btw , i would make a mod of sm64 to put in the voice clips or other cut / beta stuff , but idk how . (edited)
Dr. RNG 6/30/2018 3:18 PM
this is the demo I am checking
Huks 6/30/2018 3:18 PM
That is a terrifying background
Dr. RNG 6/30/2018 3:18 PM
emulation doesn't render videos yet
3:19 PM
the Original xbox has made progress though
rareblin 6/30/2018 3:19 PM
lol i added it lol
divingkxt 6/30/2018 3:20 PM
Cxbx-Reloaded only recently got any progress.
3:20 PM
That's why they only now have a progress blog.
Dr. RNG 6/30/2018 3:22 PM
I'm the guy who has hacked the BLiNX games to the point pf almost nothing left to do.
3:23 PM
the trailers on it's tcrf page were used in the demos
3:24 PM
after you finish any of the demos, the video starts
3:25 PM
This demo never lets you go to the map screen without hacks
Dr. RNG 6/30/2018 3:56 PM
rareblin 6/30/2018 4:14 PM
Many people know about the unused Animal Capsule found in the Time Attack Room in Titanic Monarch Act 2 while playing Mania Mode in Sonic Mania
4:16 PM
an explanation for why it's there is that every act needs a defenite ending (signpost, boss that drops a signpost or flying animal capsule, animal capsule) If that's true, then the other zones with their boss battle being a third act (Lava Reef Zone and Stardust Speedway) must have a hidden animal capsule in their act 2
Dr. RNG 6/30/2018 5:19 PM
I hacked the demo's xbe to always go to the stage select when I choose the options screen
divingkxt 6/30/2018 5:19 PM
@rareblin Sure, that time capsule isn't used in Time Attack?
5:19 PM
Because I swear it may have been removed from the article at one point b/c of that.
Dr. RNG 6/30/2018 5:38 PM
I added the unused sound test back in by replacing the shop's value (C7 05 44 8F 50 00 06 00 00 00) with the sound test value (C7 05 44 8F 50 00 0E 00 00 00) I used HxD to do this.
5:40 PM
now I can test it on actual hardware
divingkxt 6/30/2018 5:45 PM
@rareblin https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Sonic_Mania&type=revision&diff=489189&oldid=489183
Index.php?title=Sonic Mania&type=revision&diff=489189&oldid=489183
5:46 PM
"TMZ2 area isn't unused. That's the Time Attack ending area."
rareblin 6/30/2018 6:11 PM
@divingkxt i said that the area IS used, but the CAPSULE isn't
6:11 PM
if i'm right, there's a time gate instead
6:12 PM
well where else would the capsule go if it isn't an unused area, sprite, text line etc
divingkxt 6/30/2018 6:12 PM
Restored.
6:12 PM
Whoops.
rareblin 6/30/2018 6:12 PM
thanks lol
6:13 PM
also if you hover over the image it tells you where the time attack area is for people who want to find the capsule
6:13 PM
i said its above the small shield rooms with teleportation g a s the last bit is a joke lol
rareblin 6/30/2018 6:21 PM
*oh yea i also added a todo saying to get a higher quality image and to get a screenshot of the star post (edited)
6:26 PM
im gonna be doing some extra editing to the unused graphics section on sonic mania lol
Chromaryu [3DS person] 6/30/2018 7:02 PM
gas
7:02 PM
rareblin 6/30/2018 7:03 PM
lol its more like fog
7:04 PM
also wheres the location of the unused objects like the monkey dude in sonic mania lol
divingkxt 6/30/2018 9:06 PM
Oh yeah, uh...
9:06 PM
Captain Rainbow
9:06 PM
There's one game we haven't touched at all.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 6/30/2018 9:15 PM
️‍
divingkxt 6/30/2018 9:18 PM
It features a bunch of the lesser Nintendo characters,
9:19 PM
notably Birdo, Lip, Devil, and Little Mac.
ErnestoAM 6/30/2018 9:23 PM
I know all but Devil.
divingkxt 6/30/2018 9:25 PM
https://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Devil
Devil
Devil (デビル, Debiru) is a character from the Famicom video game Devil World. He is a blue demon who sports two horns and red wings. He was the antagonist of the game, and later appeared as an...
9:25 PM
Devil World wasn't released in the US for obvious reasons.
9:26 PM
Was released in Europe though.
ErnestoAM 6/30/2018 9:26 PM
We're too much of wusses
MysticSageJosh 6/30/2018 9:30 PM
wait till it gets upped to Satan Universe
Neko May 6/30/2018 10:47 PM
Birdo, the first trans videogame character
MysticSageJosh 6/30/2018 10:48 PM
Poison from final fight, My favorite trans video game character
10:48 PM
...is that insensitive?
10:49 PM
if it's insensitive i'll remove it
Neko May 6/30/2018 10:50 PM
Sounds fine to me
MysticSageJosh 6/30/2018 10:50 PM
Posion is hawt
10:52 PM
Anyways, when i get a new pc i'll probably try and datamine some pc games
ErnestoAM 6/30/2018 11:25 PM
11:25 PM
Found this dummy placeholder in CR.
11:26 PM
There are several of them
3
DarthDubඞ 6/30/2018 11:26 PM
time to make a page
ErnestoAM 6/30/2018 11:26 PM
38 to be exact
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/1/2018 12:21 AM
this is the third person model you stinky (edited)
ErnestoAM 7/1/2018 12:24 AM
Lol
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/1/2018 12:25 AM
should i remove the passage entirely or edit it so it mentions how the model is Gordon's third-person model, which cannot be viewed without cheats?
Borman 7/1/2018 12:25 AM
https://twitter.com/Borman18/status/1013272459016011777 /shrug
Andrew Borman (@Borman18)
Presented without context, because I dont have context. #metroid
divingkxt 7/1/2018 1:03 AM
Ooh, Metroid Prime Hunters stuff.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/1/2018 1:58 AM
NST shit?
1:58 AM
dang
EdTheNerd 7/1/2018 2:15 AM
2
leilei 7/1/2018 3:47 AM
a blank gordon model would also be usable for hitbox and bone controller purposes
3:48 AM
for what it's worth you can't see half-life's player model normally ever either (edited)
3:48 AM
the only point where you could ALMOST see the model is if you turn on the flashlight right at the ending
3:54 AM
3:55 AM
your hand just does the idle pump throughout the credits
3:55 AM
jammin out to that song
3:56 AM
if the camera were to be any further away you'd see your helmetless head
3:59 AM
but yeah, half-life and half-life 2 do technically use that 'invisible' gordon model
Deleted User 7/1/2018 3:59 AM
https://tcrf.net/images/8/81/SonicAdventureAutodemo_Title.ogg
3:59 AM
The random cut in the AutoDemo version of the riff is so jarring
4:00 AM
It's like they put no effort for shortening it
leilei 7/1/2018 4:05 AM
also when half-life did have working mirror rendering at one point, gordon was still invisible
4:06 AM
you'll only ever ever see him if a camera entity is used
4:06 AM
(without pulling down a console and typing thirdperson or chase_active 1 anyway) (edited)
4:07 AM
also the third person mode's only tailored for pr stuff
4:10 AM
perhaps gordon freeman is actually a vampire
4:10 AM
he drinks blood from health stations
Hiccup 7/1/2018 5:52 AM
What the hell?
5:52 AM
Dillion's Dead Heat Breakers has exe files renamed to .bin
5:52 AM
for some of the files in its assets folder (edited)
eientei 7/1/2018 6:01 AM
Are you sure
Hiccup 7/1/2018 6:02 AM
Yeah
eientei 7/1/2018 6:05 AM
`./asset/battle_enemy_asset.bin: PE32 executable (console) Intel 80386 (stripped to external PDB), for MS Windows` Huh. Odd.
6:06 AM
`GCC: (GNU) 4.9.3`
Hiccup 7/1/2018 6:26 AM
Possibly a bunch of test models and maps too. But I haven't played the game.
6:27 AM
I only checked the game because I got the scene release to add it to No-Intro (though someone got there first) (edited)
Lil-G 7/1/2018 9:13 AM
@Neko May somehow i accidentally found you on ifunny in collective
Deleted User 7/1/2018 11:26 AM
I got in contact with someone last night who was able to scan the Zelda 64 section of the guidebook given to attendees at Spaceworld 1997.
11:26 AM
11:26 AM
ShiniiLevii 7/1/2018 11:27 AM
o
Deleted User 7/1/2018 11:27 AM
On a prerelease page, there is a translation of the story that was taken previously from a poor video footage. Is anyone able to translate this to English? https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/Early_Sword_on_A#Spaceworld_.2797_Guidebook
Early Sword on A
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/1/2018 11:28 AM
https://youtu.be/3dnW8QJxHD0 relevant
MichMasteR
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - Mirinda commercial -
Deleted User 7/1/2018 11:28 AM
@CELL Broadband Engine 2006 Haha! That never gets old.
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/1/2018 11:29 AM
ErnestoAM 7/1/2018 11:37 AM
Wait that's a thing
Deleted User 7/1/2018 11:48 AM
Discussing the previous poor capture of the Zelda Spaceworld '97 guidebook, someone on TCRF left this comment: "The above sentence is an homage to the person who decided that the best way to share their lovely quality scans of a rare piece of gaming memorabilia was a terrible-quality video that renders the text unreadable, then followed up that decision by promptly disappearing from the internet forever." It feels good to finally have a decent scan!
11:48 AM
If anyone is willing to translate it to English, please let me know.
ImJustATester 7/1/2018 12:14 PM
Don't forget to remove dev menus before releasing the game
Ketsuban 7/1/2018 12:15 PM
tired: don't forget to remove dev menus before releasing the game wired: don't remove dev menus before releasing the game
duke 7/1/2018 12:28 PM
Writing wiki pages really is rather time consuming.
Dezent 7/1/2018 12:31 PM
Eating clocks is very time consuming too
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/1/2018 12:34 PM
Splitwirez 7/1/2018 1:18 PM
Revo 7/1/2018 1:25 PM
there's yet another mistake on the ruby/sapph TCRF page
1:25 PM
https://github.com/pret/pokeruby/blob/7b7f4bb7d6f5d29b40e15aa4c6285c6885359e0d/data/maps/UnknownMap_25_34/scripts.inc#L28
pret/pokeruby
pokeruby - Disassembly of Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire
1:25 PM
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Ruby_and_Sapphire#Unused_Music
Pok%C3%A9mon_Ruby_and_Sapphire
1:25 PM
Test1-4 actually is used
1:25 PM
for contest link battles for p1-4
divingkxt 7/1/2018 1:26 PM
Done.
Revo 7/1/2018 1:27 PM
divingkxt 7/1/2018 1:27 PM
I think it might have been added by accident given how few people actually played that mode.
Revo 7/1/2018 1:27 PM
ive got some stuff to add to that page eventually
divingkxt 7/1/2018 1:27 PM
Myself included.
Revo 7/1/2018 1:27 PM
there's a couple of unused coding systems in the game that werent known until decompiled
1:27 PM
i think ive talked about it before
divingkxt 7/1/2018 1:27 PM
Someone added it to a list of things to translate to Korean, but I'm holding off on that for two months.
Revo 7/1/2018 1:30 PM
eventually ill have more details for the sm64 TCRF page as well
1:30 PM
particularly to how the debug profilers work
1:33 PM
@divingkxt did i tell you we're decompiling super mario 64 to matching C code as well
1:34 PM
same treatment gen 3 pokemon was getting
1:34 PM
i spent months hunting down the original compiler
divingkxt 7/1/2018 1:38 PM
No surprise since it uses a specific version of the GCC compiler. (edited)
1:39 PM
Given how much Punk7890 has already found in the entire N64 library,
Revo 7/1/2018 1:39 PM
so one of the ruby/sapphire unused features is really hard to spot, but it is a part of the function located at `0x80fb170` in Ruby english 1.0 the function updates the zoom registers of the region map feature which draws the Hoenn Map: here's the C code for it: `void CalcZoomScrollParams(s16 a, s16 b, s16 c, s16 d, u16 e, u16 f, u8 rotation) { s32 var1; s32 var2; s32 var3; s32 var4; gRegionMap->unk2C = e * gSineTable[rotation + 64] >> 8; gRegionMap->unk30 = e * -gSineTable[rotation] >> 8; gRegionMap->unk34 = f * gSineTable[rotation] >> 8; gRegionMap->unk38 = f * gSineTable[rotation + 64] >> 8; var1 = (a << 8) + (c << 8); var2 = d * gRegionMap->unk34 + gRegionMap->unk2C * c; gRegionMap->bg2x = var1 - var2; var3 = (b << 8) + (d << 8); var4 = gRegionMap->unk38 * d + gRegionMap->unk30 * c; gRegionMap->bg2y = var3 - var4; gRegionMap->needUpdateVideoRegs = TRUE; }` https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306193495234707456/336036194389458944/pokeruby_map.png
1:39 PM
this feature is a parameter of the function at `0x80fb170`
1:39 PM
however, in vanilla, this parameter is always 0
1:39 PM
(it's rotation)
1:39 PM
making it anything other than 0 of course does the map rotation
divingkxt 7/1/2018 1:40 PM
Likely scrapped because of how useless it is.
Revo 7/1/2018 1:40 PM
it's gone in emerald
1:40 PM
they removed the rotation feature from the code
1:40 PM
i prefer to think they planned to map rotation to the L/R buttons
1:41 PM
i wonder if pokenav wasnt intended at first and it was just going to be a town map think in your head a mental image of brendan getting confused about the map, and rotating it various ways to make sense of it
1:42 PM
he is after all (the player, i mean) not native to hoenn
1:42 PM
so this makes sense?
1:44 PM
the other major unused feature thats only in r/s and not emerald is a function at `0x801b40c` in Ruby eng 1.0
1:44 PM
`struct CombinedMove { u16 move1; u16 move2; u16 newMove; }; static const struct CombinedMove sCombinedMoves[2] = { {MOVE_EMBER, MOVE_GUST, MOVE_HEAT_WAVE}, {0xFFFF, 0xFFFF, 0xFFFF} }; void unref_sub_801B40C(void) { int i = 0; if (gBattleTypeFlags & BATTLE_TYPE_DOUBLE) { do { u8 bank = 0; do { u8 absent = gAbsentBattlerFlags; if (gBitTable[bank] & absent || absent & gBitTable[bank + 2]) bank++; else { if (sCombinedMoves[i].move1 == gChosenMovesByBanks[bank] && sCombinedMoves[i].move2 == gChosenMovesByBanks[bank + 2]) { gSideTimers[GetBattlerPosition(bank) & 1].field3 = (bank) | ((bank + 2) << 4); gSideTimers[GetBattlerPosition(bank) & 1].field4 = sCombinedMoves[i].newMove; gSideAffecting[GetBattlerPosition(bank) & 1] |= SIDE_STATUS_X4; } if (sCombinedMoves[i].move1 == gChosenMovesByBanks[bank + 2] && sCombinedMoves[i].move2 == gChosenMovesByBanks[bank]) { gSideTimers[GetBattlerPosition(bank) & 1].field3 = (bank + 2) | ((bank) << 4); gSideTimers[GetBattlerPosition(bank) & 1].field4 = sCombinedMoves[i].newMove; gSideAffecting[GetBattlerPosition(bank) & 1] |= SIDE_STATUS_X4; } bank++; } } while (bank < 2); i++; } while (sCombinedMoves[i].move1 != 0xFFFF); } }`
1:44 PM
the ability to combine moves in a double battle into a stronger single move
1:44 PM
basically a gen 3 pledge
1:45 PM
it also makes sense of the: `const u8 BattleText_WindHeatWave[] = _("The wind turned into a\nHEAT WAVE!");`
1:45 PM
remember that unused text?
1:46 PM
although, im not sure how to contextualize this in a TCRF article, given it's about unused code features and not something simpler to show in an article
1:46 PM
like text or pictures
1:46 PM
this is unused code
1:46 PM
rather, unused subsystems
1:47 PM
maybe under `Unused Features` ?
1:49 PM
@divingkxt sm64's compiler isnt gcc (unless you mean the iQue super mario 64, which does use gcc) super mario 64 used the IRIX 5.3 compiler + IDO 5.3 (IRIS Development Option 5.3)
divingkxt 7/1/2018 1:49 PM
Oh.
Revo 7/1/2018 1:49 PM
we built a runtime irix emulator that emulates the IDO 5.3 compiler
1:49 PM
so we can decompile the code on linux
1:49 PM
its actually kind of amazing
1:50 PM
US/JP was compiled with a debug flag that eliminated all cross-statement optimizations
1:50 PM
it uses -g
1:50 PM
the SDK explicitly tells you not to ship -g ROMs to retail
1:50 PM
But Nintendo did it anyway
1:50 PM
so there's basically 0 optimizations
1:50 PM
all the code's incredibly easy to match
1:51 PM
so we can see everything, including dead code
divingkxt 7/1/2018 1:52 PM
Which explains why there's so much unused stuff.
1:52 PM
Including stuff only seen in the JP version's code.
1:53 PM
Funny to think they ignore their own advice when compiling their stuff.
Revo 7/1/2018 1:54 PM
at `0x802CDA44` in sm64 J, the function actually has an explicit reference to luigi (kind of)
1:54 PM
`// Dims shadows according to some formula. Only done for "playable characters". // Maybe "shadow addition"? s8 func_802CDA44(s32 isLuigi, u8 initialSolidity, struct Shadow *shadow) { struct Object *sp34; s8 sp33; s16 animFrame; switch (isLuigi) { case 0: sp34 = gMarioObject; break; case 1: //! This is unironically probably Luigi. This variable is never // used anywhere else in the code, lies in memory just after the // Mario object, and appears to have the special "Mario shadows". sp34 = gLuigiObject; break; } animFrame = sp34->gfx.unk40; ...`
1:54 PM
it's the only reference to the mario object ptr right after gMarioObject
1:54 PM
for a mario-like shadow
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/1/2018 1:58 PM
i found the disabled debug code pretty interesting
Revo 7/1/2018 1:59 PM
ive already decompiled the mapinfo system
1:59 PM
its not well documented yet
2:00 PM
`const char *D_8032FEE0[] = { " a0 %d", " a1 %d", " a2 %d", " a3 %d", " a4 %d", " a5 %d", " a6 %d", " a7 %d", "A" }; const char *D_8032FF04[] = { " b0 %d", " b1 %d", " b2 %d", " b3 %d", " b4 %d", " b5 %d", " b6 %d", " b7 %d", "B" };` these are the effectinfo and enemyinfo string placeholders
2:00 PM
i know that much, but i havent determined what actually goes there
Andreelikes 7/1/2018 2:55 PM
So, has anyone datamined Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's Labo update yet?
divingkxt 7/1/2018 2:57 PM
IIRC, no.
divingkxt 7/1/2018 3:33 PM
https://twitter.com/Syk0Tweet/status/1013358762256723973
Syko (@Syk0Tweet)
The November build of Melee contains Beta Great Bay's textures. Kinda makes me think this was the last stage made. tcrf partially mentioned this but only documented what's inside the laboratory afaik
Hiccup 7/1/2018 3:41 PM
Is this a dumped demo of Melee? Or is it referring to pre-release materials?
Deleted User 7/1/2018 3:43 PM
@Hiccup The November build could be the Japan demo or JP/US 1.01
3:43 PM
Both builds are dumped.
3:43 PM
I'll confirm whether the November JP demo has these textures.
Deleted User 7/1/2018 4:08 PM
@Hiccup I believe they are referring to the JPN/US 1.01 build. I compared the JPN November demo with US 1.02 and the textures look the same.
4:08 PM
Unfortunately I do not have JPN/US 1.01 to validate.
divingkxt 7/1/2018 4:37 PM
https://tcrf.net/Thomas_And_Friends:_Trouble_on_the_Tracks
Thomas And Friends: Trouble on the Tracks
4:37 PM
What a fucking mess.
blueskyrunner 7/1/2018 4:40 PM
Oh my god
Deleted User 7/1/2018 4:40 PM
Could use some work.
Nex 7/1/2018 4:41 PM
how the fuck is this even a article
divingkxt 7/1/2018 4:41 PM
Warned him in his talk page about it just now.
Nex 7/1/2018 4:42 PM
should I look into fixing it somewhat
divingkxt 7/1/2018 4:42 PM
Right now, I'm heavily reworking this article.
Nex 7/1/2018 4:42 PM
oh ok then
4:42 PM
what a fucking mess lmao
4:43 PM
I got a question divingkatae, https://tcrf.net/User:NexIsBack/TravelsBuild310107/Unused_Maps here I took screenshots with ppspp but now I got a plugin on my psp on wich I could take screenshots with, would that be prefered?
Unused Maps
divingkxt 7/1/2018 4:45 PM
Depends on whether or not it saves as a PNG.
Nex 7/1/2018 4:45 PM
it saves as bmp
4:45 PM
let me grab a sample screen
divingkxt 7/1/2018 4:48 PM
OK then.
4:48 PM
BMP can be resaved as PNG easily.
4:48 PM
Just don't use Paint.
4:48 PM
Paint tends to distort color info.
Nex 7/1/2018 4:48 PM
I see
4:49 PM
4:53 PM
on emu
divingkxt 7/1/2018 4:54 PM
To be honest, doesn't seem to make a huge difference here.
Nex 7/1/2018 4:54 PM
the navigation bar is off by a few pixels
4:55 PM
would it be fine if I just take any further screenshots with the plugin and leave the old ones?
divingkxt 7/1/2018 4:55 PM
Oh.
Nex 7/1/2018 4:55 PM
although If needed I can remake all screenshots
4:55 PM
just bothers me when things are off
divingkxt 7/1/2018 4:55 PM
A bit overkill for now.
4:56 PM
If it bothers you, then go right ahead.
4:56 PM
We migrated to a new server now.
Nex 7/1/2018 4:56 PM
could you kindly delete the images wich are used in the page?
4:57 PM
also another question, when is a video prefered and when are screenshots?
divingkxt 7/1/2018 4:59 PM
Screenshots - Most of the time
4:59 PM
Video - Only if there's something screenshots alone can't convey
Nex 7/1/2018 4:59 PM
I see, thanks for the clarification
TheMonkeyBob 7/1/2018 5:21 PM
When do I get my patreon role?
Ryansock 7/1/2018 5:28 PM
Sorry about my article
5:29 PM
I'm used to more simplistic wiki article editing stuff
divingkxt 7/1/2018 5:41 PM
@TheMonkeyBob VIP or regular Cacti Club?
TheMonkeyBob 7/1/2018 5:43 PM
VIP
5:46 PM
@divingkxt
divingkxt 7/1/2018 5:47 PM
Done.
nyctomatic 7/1/2018 6:08 PM
hi guys, i found something in a beta version of splatoon 2
6:10 PM
in this beta screenshot from the switch event you see a claw machine icon that isn't seen in the final game
6:11 PM
6:12 PM
over to the right of the shoal you see a claw machine, so was this a scrapped beta feature?
Deleted User 7/1/2018 6:13 PM
couldn have been like an item shop where u could pick items or weapons or what ever out of a claw machine .
nyctomatic 7/1/2018 6:19 PM
the "C'mon!" command hadn't been replaced with "This way!" at that time either
DarthDubඞ 7/1/2018 6:39 PM
i use paint.net to convert Nintendo 3DS' Luma CFW's bmp screenshots to png (edited)
6:39 PM
oh and congrats @punk7890
punk7890 7/1/2018 7:14 PM
thanks for the shoutout guys!
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/1/2018 7:18 PM
np fam
cuba200611 7/1/2018 7:33 PM
Just a question - what's the difference between Cacti Club regular and Cacti Club VIP? The amount donated?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/1/2018 7:33 PM
(I should impliment bot to auto convert bmp to png)
7:33 PM
(also auto optimize)
punk7890 7/1/2018 7:34 PM
Here's a sneak peak at a new debug menu.
Neko May 7/1/2018 7:40 PM
@Lil-G: What? (Re: @Neko Ed somehow i accidentally found you on ifunny in collective)
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/1/2018 7:42 PM
its not ehm but its almost
divingkxt 7/1/2018 7:50 PM
@cuba200611 VIP gets an extra channel.
7:50 PM
They need to donate 5$ first.
Deleted User 7/1/2018 8:05 PM
Happy belated Canada day to any other fellow canadians
Lil-G 7/1/2018 8:18 PM
@Neko May yeah, i'm guessing someone posted a commission you made or something. I'll send it as a PM
Neko May 7/1/2018 8:23 PM
Yep, that would be a commission I made not too long ago. :3
blueskyrunner 7/1/2018 8:25 PM
Hm? What'd you draw?
Neko May 7/1/2018 8:27 PM
Oh, no, a commission from someone else
8:27 PM
Apparantly one of them ended up on ifunny
Nex 7/1/2018 8:33 PM
@punk7890 found a debug menu for real life yet?
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/1/2018 8:43 PM
he IS the debug menu
punk7890 7/1/2018 8:44 PM
@Nex soon™
Nex 7/1/2018 8:46 PM
hell yeah
Deleted User 7/1/2018 8:48 PM
inb4 Second Life debug menu
ErnestoAM 7/1/2018 8:49 PM
Anyone know if these are used? I assume they are in some unlockable gallery in the game. But what do I know, haven't played the game nor can.
CapRB-Concept_Art.zip
1.45 MB
Deleted User 7/1/2018 8:53 PM
@ErnestoAM where are those from ? - ? .
ErnestoAM 7/1/2018 8:53 PM
From the game files
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/1/2018 8:53 PM
what game
Deleted User 7/1/2018 8:54 PM
yeh , whut was the game called .
ErnestoAM 7/1/2018 8:54 PM
Captain Rainbow
Deleted User 7/1/2018 8:54 PM
i guess punch ou - - oh .
8:54 PM
let meh check the game real quick .
8:59 PM
uhh , i think they were un used .
ErnestoAM 7/1/2018 9:00 PM
Also, there are more, I forgot to extract like half of them.
Deleted User 7/1/2018 9:01 PM
wait,
9:01 PM
hmmm
9:01 PM
the more i look into the stuff .
9:02 PM
there are bits/pieces used , but did u mean the full piece ? - ? .
ErnestoAM 7/1/2018 9:02 PM
CapRB-Concept_Art_MARK_II.zip
2.72 MB
9:02 PM
Well, I guess the full piece.
Deleted User 7/1/2018 9:09 PM
i guess they would be un-used , then . (edited)
Neko May 7/1/2018 9:11 PM
"Unused" is one word
Deleted User 7/1/2018 9:13 PM
ocd is one term .
9:13 PM
but happeh ? - ? .
9:14 PM
i added the hyphen .
ErnestoAM 7/1/2018 9:23 PM
Are any of these items unused?
Caotain_Rainbow_Items.zip
407.13 KB
Deleted User 7/1/2018 9:48 PM
the dummies are a definite .
ErnestoAM 7/1/2018 9:49 PM
I would have never guessed.
Deleted User 7/1/2018 9:50 PM
i kid , roflmao .
9:51 PM
but idk , never played the game either . (edited)
Deleted User 7/2/2018 2:19 AM
for that thomas article
2:19 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Friends-Trouble-Tracks-PC/dp/B00004T77X
Amazon.com: Thomas and Friends Trouble on the Tracks - PC: Video Games
Amazon.com: Thomas and Friends Trouble on the Tracks - PC: Video Games
2:19 AM
should I buy it just to get shit off it?
2:19 AM
should i not buy it?
cuba200611 7/2/2018 2:22 AM
Just for kicks, I decided to corrupt a few arcade games...
2:23 AM
And this is something interesting I found:
2:24 AM
This is a warning screen in Big Karnak - which is not used odd enough... (edited)
eientei 7/2/2018 2:35 AM
@Deleted User Do whatever the heck you like
2:41 AM
@cuba200611 `MADE IN SPAIN BIG KARNAK GAELCO 1991 ESTE JUEGO ESTA METICULOSAMENTE PROTEGIDO: -POR LA LEY -POR SOFTWARE -POR HARDWARE`
2:42 AM
`1991 Big Karnak REF 901112-1 Unprotected`
cuba200611 7/2/2018 2:43 AM
Where'd you pull that out? (The chunk of text that is - the other part is from the MAME code for the hardware it runs on)
eientei 7/2/2018 2:43 AM
Semi-Google translation: `MADE IN SPAIN BIG KARNAK GAELCO 1991 THIS GAME IS METICULOUSLY PROTECTED: -BY THE LAW -BY SOFTWARE -BY HARDWARE`
2:43 AM
@cuba200611 At 0x300 in RAM when the game is loaded
cuba200611 7/2/2018 2:43 AM
So more hidden text I see.
eientei 7/2/2018 2:45 AM
At 0x18A: `ERROR DE BUS ERROR DE DIRECCION INSTRUCCION ILEGAL DIVISION POR CERO INSTRUCCION CHK INSTRUCCION TRAPV VIOLACION DE PRIVILEGIO TRAZADO LINEA 1010 DE EMULADOR LINEA 1111 DE EMULADOR INTERRUPCION DIF. A 6 TRAP 0-F`
2:45 AM
Odd seeing Spanish error messages
2:45 AM
Not so odd in a Spanish-developed game :V
cuba200611 7/2/2018 2:47 AM
Oh yeah, MAME has a RAM-dump function in debug mode...
eientei 7/2/2018 2:49 AM
Just use the Memory window in debug mode :P
eientei 7/2/2018 2:59 AM
@cuba200611 I wouldn't be surprised if one of the "Unknown" dipswitches in Big Karnak triggered the warning screen or a language select between English and Spanish
Neko May 7/2/2018 3:06 AM
One way to find out
cuba200611 7/2/2018 3:06 AM
And in TH Strikes Back:
3:06 AM
`000160: 203C 0000 000C 6098 4552 524F 5220 4445 <....`.ERROR DE 000170: 2042 5553 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2045 BUS E 000180: 5252 4F52 2044 4520 4449 5245 4343 494F RROR DE DIRECCIO 000190: 4E20 2020 2020 494E 5354 5255 4343 494F N INSTRUCCIO 0001A0: 4E20 494C 4547 414C 2020 2020 2044 4956 N ILEGAL DIV 0001B0: 4953 494F 4E20 504F 5220 4345 524F 2020 ISION POR CERO 0001C0: 2020 2020 494E 5354 5255 4343 494F 4E20 INSTRUCCION 0001D0: 4348 4B20 2020 2020 2020 2049 4E53 5452 CHK INSTR 0001E0: 5543 4349 4F4E 2054 5241 5056 2020 2020 UCCION TRAPV 0001F0: 2020 5649 4F4C 4143 494F 4E20 4445 2050 VIOLACION DE P 000200: 5249 5649 4C45 4749 4F54 5241 5A41 444F RIVILEGIOTRAZADO 000210: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 000220: 4C49 4E45 4120 3130 3130 2044 4520 454D LINEA 1010 DE EM 000230: 554C 4144 4F52 204C 494E 4541 2031 3131 ULADOR LINEA 111 000240: 3120 4445 2045 4D55 4C41 444F 5220 494E 1 DE EMULADOR IN 000250: 5445 5252 5550 4349 4F4E 2044 4946 2E20 TERRUPCION DIF. 000260: 4120 3620 2054 5241 5020 302D 4620 2020 A 6 TRAP 0-F`
Neko May 7/2/2018 3:07 AM
Looks like an error handler
3:07 AM
Corrupt something in the debugger and see if it crashes
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/2/2018 3:08 AM
3:08 AM
I found debug print in T kara Hajimaru Monogatari.
2
Neko May 7/2/2018 3:11 AM
You can replace an instruction with 0xFFFF and that should cause a Line 1111 Emulator exception, in theory
3:15 AM
Arcade games weren't skittish about dumping exception state to the user, the majority would happily do it (where possible, obviously)
cuba200611 7/2/2018 3:16 AM
And this is from Alien Challenge:
3:16 AM
Wait, let me split it up...
Neko May 7/2/2018 3:16 AM
It usually made for a pretty obvious "out of service" condition
cuba200611 7/2/2018 3:16 AM
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3:17 AM
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3:17 AM
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3:18 AM
It looks like Round House was probally going to be the game's name...
eientei 7/2/2018 3:18 AM
Looks like something from the end of the credits
cuba200611 7/2/2018 3:18 AM
That's actually the opening text.
3:19 AM
It's in there four times in the RAM dump - two with Alien Challenge, two with Round House - and they have a mixed cap version, and an all caps version - of which the all caps Alien Challenge one is seen in game.
eientei 7/2/2018 3:19 AM
Alt name then?
cuba200611 7/2/2018 3:20 AM
Probally...
eientei 7/2/2018 3:20 AM
@Neko May Yeah. Only problem is that one commit affected the makefile, so it needs to recompile everything :p
cuba200611 7/2/2018 3:20 AM
And there's also a few different warnings for different regions - which suggest releases in such areas, but only the world and Chinese versions are currently dumped. (edited)
3:21 AM
And this I also found:
3:21 AM
`03D680: 8000 0000 2020 2057 6172 6E69 6E67 2053 .... Warning S 03D690: 7472 696E 6720 4865 7265 0A20 2020 5761 tring Here. Wa 03D6A0: 726E 696E 6720 5374 7269 6E67 2048 6572 rning String Her 03D6B0: 650A 0000 0015 8BFE 0000 0000 0000 0090 e...............`
3:23 AM
Also this:
3:23 AM
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3:23 AM
Looks like win quotes, of which the game does not use from what I've experienced and seen of it... (edited)
Neko May 7/2/2018 3:32 AM
Hm.
3:34 AM
"This game is only for use in Warning String Here"
eientei 7/2/2018 3:35 AM
lol
cuba200611 7/2/2018 3:37 AM
In Psychic 5:
3:37 AM
`0030: F3 E5 D5 C5 F5 C3 97 00 43 6F 70 79 72 69 67 68 ........Copyrigh 0040: 74 20 31 39 38 36 20 4E 4D 4B 20 4C 74 64 2E 00 t 1986 NMK Ltd..`
3:38 AM
I already knew that NMK developed it - although the game says 1987, not 1986...
3:38 AM
So that suggests that the game was developed in late 86 and released in early 87.
3:44 AM
Here's what I found in the memory for the sound CPU:
3:44 AM
`0070: 54 68 69 73 20 53 6F 75 6E 64 20 4D 6F 6E 69 74 This Sound Monit 0080: 6F 72 20 4D 61 64 65 20 62 79 20 43 68 65 61 62 or Made by Cheab 0090: 6F 77 2E 2A 2A 2A 2A 2A 2A 53 6F 75 6E 64 20 45 ow.******Sound E 00A0: 66 66 65 63 74 20 53 6F 66 74 77 61 72 65 20 4C ffect Software L 00B0: 6F 67 69 63 20 44 65 73 69 67 6E 20 62 79 20 43 ogic Design by C 00C0: 68 65 61 62 6F 77 2E 2A 2A 2A 2A 2A 2A 4D 75 73 heabow.******Mus 00D0: 69 63 20 44 61 74 61 20 54 72 61 6E 73 66 65 72 ic Data Transfer 00E0: 20 4C 6F 67 69 63 20 44 65 73 69 67 6E 20 62 79 Logic Design by 00F0: 20 43 68 65 61 62 6F 77 2E 2A 2A 2A 3C 3C 3C 3C Cheabow.***<<<< 0100: 43 41 55 54 49 4F 4E 3A 20 4E 4F 54 20 41 20 4D CAUTION: NOT A M 0110: 41 4E 4E 45 52 20 2E 2E 2E 2E 20 74 6F 20 62 65 ANNER .... to be 0120: 20 63 6F 6E 74 69 6E 75 65 2E 3E 3E 3E 3E 31 00 continue.>>>>1.`
3:45 AM
`1530: 7F 4A 7F 4C 7F 4D 7F 4E 7F FF 41 6C 6C 20 4D 75 .J.L.M.N..All Mu 1540: 73 69 63 20 43 6F 6D 70 6F 73 65 20 62 79 20 43 sic Compose by C 1550: 68 65 61 62 6F 77 2E 41 6C 6C 20 4D 75 73 69 63 heabow.All Music 1560: 20 41 72 72 61 6E 67 65 20 62 79 20 43 68 65 61 Arrange by Chea 1570: 62 6F 77 2E 41 6C 6C 20 4D 75 73 69 63 20 50 72 bow.All Music Pr 1580: 6F 64 75 63 65 20 62 79 20 43 68 65 61 62 6F 77 oduce by Cheabow 1590: 2E 41 6C 6C 20 4D 75 73 69 63 20 56 6F 69 63 69 .All Music Voici 15A0: 6E 67 20 62 79 20 43 68 65 61 62 6F 77 2E 53 6F ng by Cheabow.So 15B0: 75 6E 64 20 45 66 66 65 63 74 20 20 62 79 20 43 und Effect by C 15C0: 68 65 61 62 6F 77 20 26 20 54 61 65 6B 6F 20 53 heabow & Taeko S 15D0: 75 7A 75 6B 69 2E 54 69 6D 65 20 4B 65 65 70 65 uzuki.Time Keepe 15E0: 72 20 62 79 20 43 68 65 61 62 6F 77 20 26 20 54 r by Cheabow & T 15F0: 61 65 6B 6F 20 53 75 7A 75 6B 69 2E 41 6C 6C 20 aeko Suzuki.All 1600: 53 6F 75 6E 64 20 45 66 66 65 63 74 20 26 20 4D Sound Effect & M 1610: 75 73 69 63 20 44 61 74 61 20 6B 65 79 20 69 6E usic Data key in 1620: 20 62 79 20 54 61 65 6B 6F 20 53 75 7A 75 6B 69 by Taeko Suzuki 1630: 2E 28 43 29 20 31 39 38 36 20 4E 69 68 6F 6E 20 .(C) 1986 Nihon 1640: 4D 61 69 63 6F 6D 20 4B 61 69 68 61 74 73 75 20 Maicom Kaihatsu 1650: 4C 54 44 2E 53 63 6F 72 65 20 77 72 69 74 69 6E LTD.Score writin 1660: 67 20 62 79 20 54 61 65 6B 6F 20 53 75 7A 75 6B g by Taeko Suzuk 1670: 69 2E 74 6F 20 62 65 20 63 6F 6E 74 69 6E 75 65 i.to be continue`
eientei 7/2/2018 3:45 AM
Cheabow is credited for the music in the credits
3:45 AM
cuba200611 7/2/2018 3:46 AM
Yeah, although I don't see any Suzuki be mentioned in the credits - although there is a Taeko mentioned - maybe that is Taeko Suzuki. (edited)
eientei 7/2/2018 3:48 AM
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2208487/
Taeko Suzuki
Taeko Suzuki, Art Department: Brain Lord
3:49 AM
>Psychic 5 (Video Game) (character designer - as Italiano Taeko)
3:49 AM
I'd suggest having a look at Butasan
eientei 7/2/2018 4:07 AM
Huh
4:07 AM
The General Test in Big Karnak is a subroutine (edited)
punk7890 7/2/2018 4:11 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/2/2018 4:13 AM
thank you!
punk7890 7/2/2018 4:41 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1013702977649950720
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a large debug menu in Spawn: Armageddon (PS2) https://t.co/DzLniZK4ry This menu has a neat interface to it. You can enable a variety of exclusive debug cheats, view models, warp to any level (including test maps), and more.
4:41 AM
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FMecha 7/2/2018 4:49 AM
4:50 AM
It seems that the NFS High Stakes (PS1) devs went their way to ensure the Ferrari and Mercedes cars are not playable in Hot Pursuit mode
4:50 AM
Normally, these cars are skipped over; if you use a GS code to change the selected car to a Ferrari or Mercedes, the game throws this error
Deleted User 7/2/2018 4:50 AM
@punk7890 I wonder how you find these to be honest
punk7890 7/2/2018 4:54 AM
through disassembly / using a debugger
Deleted User 7/2/2018 4:55 AM
oh okay
Hiccup 7/2/2018 5:09 AM
@Revo TCRF has a page category for unused code. Its definitely something that TCRF covers. And stuff doesn't need to fit into one of the categories to be appropriate for TCRF.
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 5:11 AM
I'm just gonna ask, why isn't nurse joy's back sprite considered "unused content"
5:12 AM
i don't know anything about articles but we never see this without cheats/sprite viewers
Hiccup 7/2/2018 5:13 AM
Why do you say it isn't considered unused content?
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 5:14 AM
Well i haven't found it on any articles is what i mean
Hiccup 7/2/2018 5:14 AM
All articles are a work in progress, basically.
5:15 AM
Games basically always have more to add.
5:15 AM
The only exception are games that have full disassemblies.
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 5:15 AM
this sounds weird but we need to add "nurse joy's ass" to basically all main gen pokemon game articles (edited)
5:16 AM
...i think....
5:16 AM
...now i just look weird
Hiccup 7/2/2018 5:16 AM
If its unused, add it.
5:17 AM
You don't need to use that particular wording though
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 5:18 AM
this will probably be my first contribution
5:18 AM
and it's an ass
5:18 AM
sits for a while and lets that sink in
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/2/2018 5:25 AM
5:25 AM
I found hidden sound test in Maze Heroes Meikyuu Densetsu
eientei 7/2/2018 5:25 AM
>...now i just look weird Oh don't worry, there's someone who's weirder
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 5:26 AM
alright, loading up my totally legit copy of pokemon and vba-m
5:26 AM
Gen 1-3 need them backsprites
punk7890 7/2/2018 5:32 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice work
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Athena 悠里マヤ 7/2/2018 5:32 AM
thank you!
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 5:39 AM
holy crap i have a tcrf account
5:39 AM
Guess i'll go by this now
Hiccup 7/2/2018 5:48 AM
There's stuff like this on other pages, if I recall correctly. NPC sprites that are unused because they don't move/face a certain way.
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 5:52 AM
behold, nurse joy's backside
5:54 AM
alright, time to figure out how this editing article shit works
Hiccup 7/2/2018 5:54 AM
you can probably use the mGBA to make a transparent rip of the sprite
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 5:56 AM
well.. it's..
5:57 AM
...it's a start for someone who doesn't know anything about this, right?
Hiccup 7/2/2018 5:58 AM
there's no obligation for you to make any huge discovery
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 5:59 AM
I barely know how this sprite ripping stuff works, i just print screen and use ms paint to edit out my character sprite
eientei 7/2/2018 6:01 AM
Don't use MS Paint
6:01 AM
Use something like Gimp or Paint.NET
6:01 AM
Preserves transparency in PNG files properly
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 6:02 AM
alright..
6:02 AM
gotta wait 20 minutes for gimp to boot up i guess
ErnestoAM 7/2/2018 6:03 AM
What are you talking about, MS Paint is god tier software.
rad 7/2/2018 6:04 AM
can i include concept art in the article? because the game i am making an article about has concept art of cars that cannot be found in the game nor the game final state
eientei 7/2/2018 6:04 AM
No
6:04 AM
That belongs on a prerelease page
rad 7/2/2018 6:04 AM
ok thanks
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 6:13 AM
wait wut
6:13 AM
i didn't use cheats btw
6:13 AM
i found this gard
6:14 AM
...i should be finding RALTS by this point, right?
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6:19 AM
i know it said "saved cheats" but i was using cheats in firered so i could get the nurse joy sprite
ErnestoAM 7/2/2018 6:20 AM
Hmm?
rad 7/2/2018 6:33 AM
can updates count as revisonal differences?
eientei 7/2/2018 6:38 AM
Yes
rad 7/2/2018 6:39 AM
great
eientei 7/2/2018 6:39 AM
@MysticSageJosh Most likely the cheat is affecting something else as well
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 6:55 AM
hmm..
6:56 AM
maybe it's just the debug rom messing with something, either way i have a gardevoir now
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 7:15 AM
i spent so much time playing the game i completely forgot to look up the walk through walls cheat and get the nurse joy sprite but i'm having fun
punk7890 7/2/2018 7:19 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1013743854112071680
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found 3 hidden cheats and 2 unused cheats in The Scorpion King: Rise of the Akkadian (PS2) https://t.co/p93zVxDC0z The cheats change the NPCs to become small, and a cheat to enable you to refill your health and stamina. There is also an unused level select menu.
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7:19 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/2/2018 7:20 AM
nice!
punk7890 7/2/2018 7:23 AM
thanks
FMecha 7/2/2018 7:50 AM
The final version of SCGT appears to have more debug menu compared to the "Sony IMSA" proto... @punk7890 might help with actually activating it. https://tcrf.net/Sports_Car_GT_(PlayStation)
Sports Car GT (PlayStation)
7:51 AM
Also, it seems that the Aurora didn't make it to the final game
punk7890 7/2/2018 7:53 AM
Point of View, eh? Probably something there
7:53 AM
I'll note it down, either that or @Athena 悠里マヤ could probably get it as well.
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/2/2018 7:53 AM
@FMecha @punk7890 I check now.
punk7890 7/2/2018 7:54 AM
sounds good
7:54 AM
I'm off to sleep. Night night
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Athena 悠里マヤ 7/2/2018 8:22 AM
8:22 AM
@FMecha I found it.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/2/2018 8:22 AM
lol
eientei 7/2/2018 8:24 AM
30 goddamn minutes
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 8:50 AM
the cycle of tcrf
8:50 AM
25% other things
8:51 AM
75% punk finding debug menus
eientei 7/2/2018 8:52 AM
s/punk/punk and athena/
FMecha 7/2/2018 9:00 AM
Mazda RX-7 and Nissan 240SX is mentioned in car type in the debug menu... but these cars aren't in the game.
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Athena 悠里マヤ 7/2/2018 9:01 AM
wow unused cars.
FMecha 7/2/2018 9:02 AM
I work with racing games such as Gran Turismo so I've used to dealing with those things
9:08 AM
The 240SX and RX-7 did compete in an IMSA series, but it was during the GTO/GTU era in the early 90s; SCGT is based on the GT1 era of sportscar racing
9:08 AM
9:08 AM
9:09 AM
http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/09/meeting-your-rotary-heroes/ http://www.speedhunters.com/2016/09/cool-s13-bro-imsa-gtu-240sx/
Meeting Your Rotary Heroes - Speedhunters
Every year Mazda can be counted on for a strong presence at the Rolex Historics, and 2015 was no different. The GTO RX-7 was one of three historic race cars Mazda brought out this year, with the iconic 787 and the RX-792P GTP car rounding out the trio of rotary icons. From t...
Cool S13, Bro: The IMSA GTU 240SX - Speedhunters
That doesn’t mean, however, that Japanese cars are unwelcome or go unappreciated at Laguna Seca this time of the year. Not only do the Japanese-badged race cars stand out in a big way at the Reunion, they’re also fan favorites, particularly among the slightly younger set...
MysticSageJosh 7/2/2018 9:35 AM
oh shit
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/2/2018 10:28 AM
?
GoofyG 7/2/2018 12:32 PM
Yo.
12:32 PM
I'm new here.
12:32 PM
but
12:32 PM
had a question.
12:33 PM
I don't know anything about the process of datamining games.
12:34 PM
Would anyone here be able to do a datamine of Playdead's Inside?
Dezent 7/2/2018 12:45 PM
Hello new person
Hiccup 7/2/2018 12:54 PM
dunno about Xbox One and PS4, but it should be straightforward to datamine the Windows version
12:55 PM
as long as the file formats it uses aren't undocumented
Deleted User 7/2/2018 1:04 PM
it also just released on switch
Hiccup 7/2/2018 1:07 PM
dunno much about that either but that's not too difficult to get into, if you have the right cryptographic keys (edited)
goat 7/2/2018 1:44 PM
the switch is busted open
Hiccup 7/2/2018 1:47 PM
in terms of game dumping, it seems to be
1:47 PM
though its not very straightforward for digital games
AloXado320 7/2/2018 1:57 PM
Found this on yt
1:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vIIeCCWUKs
BetaM
Crash N.Sane Trilogy Whiterooms (Test Levels)
Deleted User 7/2/2018 2:00 PM
oh nice
2:00 PM
someone actually got them loaded
2:01 PM
these test rooms are in all versions of the game
2:01 PM
even ps4
Hiccup 7/2/2018 2:07 PM
why "even"? is sony more strict about file sizes/unused/debug content?
Nex 7/2/2018 2:07 PM
wouldn't say so
Hiccup 7/2/2018 2:08 PM
or maybe the "even" was just for the fact it wasn't removed on any platform
Deleted User 7/2/2018 2:10 PM
even because this is showcasing the steam version
2:11 PM
ports can have new unused content sometimes
AloXado320 7/2/2018 2:11 PM
Btw there's no N Sane Trilogy page yet
rad 7/2/2018 2:24 PM
I just finished my first article (edited)
Dezent 7/2/2018 2:25 PM
Nice
FancyEX 7/2/2018 2:43 PM
@JacobLenstar what wii game prototypes have you dumped
cuba200611 7/2/2018 2:52 PM
More stuff I found - in this case, Best of Best by SunA:
2:52 PM
`04FF80: 202D 4245 5354 204F 4620 4245 5354 2D20 -BEST OF BEST- 04FF90: 4D41 494E 2050 524F 4752 414D 2020 2020 MAIN PROGRAM 04FFA0: 3638 3030 3020 5631 332E 3020 2020 2020 68000 V13.0 04FFB0: 5355 4E41 2045 4C45 4354 524F 4E49 4353 SUNA ELECTRONICS 04FFC0: 3139 3933 2C33 2C32 352D 3131 2C32 3920 1993,3,25-11,29 04FFD0: 4B49 4D2E 482E 5420 2020 2020 2020 2020 KIM.H.T 04FFE0: 4D3D 313A 4B44 533D 3920 2020 2020 2020 M=1:KDS=9`
Deleted User 7/2/2018 2:53 PM
@rad https://tcrf.net/File:TCCutImpalaDrag.jpg
File:TCCutImpalaDrag.jpg
2:53 PM
is this from a trailer
rad 7/2/2018 2:54 PM
yes
2:54 PM
wait no
2:54 PM
this one in game footage
Deleted User 7/2/2018 2:54 PM
like a cutscene movie or something?
rad 7/2/2018 2:55 PM
it is in the background of a results menu
cuba200611 7/2/2018 2:55 PM
And from the sound CPU:
2:55 PM
`0050: 42 45 53 54 20 4F 46 20 42 45 53 54 20 56 31 30 BEST OF BEST V10 0060: 58 49 4C 49 4E 58 20 50 52 4F 47 52 41 4D 00 00 XILINX PROGRAM.. 0070: 33 30 32 30 20 31 39 39 34 2C 31 2C 31 37 20 20 3020 1994,1,17`
Deleted User 7/2/2018 2:55 PM
ok
cuba200611 7/2/2018 2:57 PM
`1320: 4D 55 53 49 43 20 50 52 4F 47 52 41 4D 00 00 00 MUSIC PROGRAM... 1330: 56 20 32 2C 30 20 31 39 39 30 2E 31 32 2E 31 34 V 2,0 1990.12.14 1340: 53 55 4E 41 20 45 4C 45 43 54 52 4F 4E 49 43 53 SUNA ELECTRONICS 1350: 4B 48 54 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00 00 KHT.............`
2:57 PM
X IS UNMANLY!
rad 7/2/2018 2:57 PM
what happen to the base game title screen? in my article
Deleted User 7/2/2018 2:58 PM
I'm still cleaning things up, please wait
rad 7/2/2018 2:58 PM
ok take your time
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:02 PM
https://tcrf.net/File:TCHUDDifferences.jpg
File:TCHUDDifferences.jpg
3:02 PM
did you create this or pull it off reddit or something
3:02 PM
oh nvm saw the source
3:06 PM
@rad where did this come from https://tcrf.net/File:The-crew-TC-Canceled-Mobile-App.jpg
File:The-crew-TC-Canceled-Mobile-App.jpg
3:06 PM
internet?
rad 7/2/2018 3:06 PM
yes
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:07 PM
ok
JacobLenstar 7/2/2018 3:11 PM
no wii games
3:11 PM
the only games I can recall dumping are the supersponge protos and a debug build of ed edd n eddy the misedventures
3:12 PM
and a few demo discs
Δndrew P. 7/2/2018 3:22 PM
In Yu-Gi-Oh Forbidden Memories (Japanese version), there are a few sprites left unused, but are left in the VRAM. The unused sprites such as the disc sprites, the box with the slash through, and the X, O, Triangle, and Square buttons with a different... angle? I'm using this old VRAM viewing tool, and i cannot find a proper color pallette yet, so this is black-and-white for now. (edited)
rampy 7/2/2018 3:23 PM
Neato
blueskyrunner 7/2/2018 3:23 PM
Oh wow I actually remember this game
rad 7/2/2018 3:24 PM
Good find
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:24 PM
never played yu-gi-oh be-fore . (edited)
Δndrew P. 7/2/2018 3:27 PM
The unused box sprite with the slash was probably meant to be in the Deck Editor, but most likely scrapped.
3:27 PM
keyword probably
outside998 7/2/2018 3:31 PM
I found something interesting today: The side for the Crash Team Racing Review Copy stated that the iso was leaked 2012. However, Tyrantking10, a YouTuber, once did a Let's Play of CTR starting in 2009. Unbeknown to him, he uses the review copy, almost three years before its supposed leak.
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:32 PM
realleh ? - ? .
outside998 7/2/2018 3:33 PM
yep, I am currently doing some editing to put all screenshots into one image
3:33 PM
for proof
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:33 PM
n0ice .
3:33 PM
can not wait to check that out ,
outside998 7/2/2018 3:42 PM
excuse the mess, by the way
3:42 PM
the stats of the cars on the right are also missing, like in the review copy.
3:43 PM
as you can see in the original screenshot
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:44 PM
seems tots legit .
outside998 7/2/2018 3:44 PM
This is the link to the series, in case you want to see for yourselves. Everything matches: The different model for cortex, the icons for the characters, the edges of the portals...
3:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kFZ1NAaH-w&list=PLC5B539C7F69849B4
Tyrant
Let's Play Crash Team Racing: 1 - Ladies and Gentlemen, Start Your...
3:45 PM
I remember watching the series back when it was originally uploaded. It always struck me as weird in some places, but I just assumed it was because of NTSC/PAL differences
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:47 PM
tcrf says that the "copy is usually sent to professional reviewers , so they can prepare an article about the game beforehand" . (edited)
3:47 PM
could just be the case there .
3:47 PM
but . .
3:47 PM
wait .
3:48 PM
hmmm , if ctr was re-leased in ' 99 , then how the hell did he get the build , un-less - 2 - he got one from a friend . 3 - got one be-fore that was taken down . (edited)
outside998 7/2/2018 3:48 PM
I don't think that's the case, as he was around 17 at the time of the upload.
3:48 PM
I will see if I can find something in the comments.
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:48 PM
let meh check too .
outside998 7/2/2018 3:49 PM
I remember people talking about the weirdness later on
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:49 PM
ppl just talkin ' ' bout who they picked . (edited)
outside998 7/2/2018 3:49 PM
in later vids, I mean. I don't remember if he replied
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:50 PM
oh .
3:50 PM
but the first vid - Crashpro3 - Castcoder: Yep, this is a BETA ISO. The intro music is the song that never is used, but found in the coding, the opening cinematic plays BEFORE the main menu (instead of waiting for it to start at the main menu), Crash Cove has a checkered pattern around its portal, some of the character icons are incorrect, the font used to enter names after getting a new record is different, stats are not displayed in the character select, Polar's area isn't as dark, and all of the relic times are easier.
3:50 PM
will edit for other comments .
outside998 7/2/2018 3:52 PM
8 years ago
3:52 PM
so 2010 (edited)
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:52 PM
yeh .
outside998 7/2/2018 3:53 PM
man, that is a riddle
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:53 PM
2009 to 2010 .
3:53 PM
he probs - 1 - got the build from the dude who leaked the rom , then played the game , un-aware that the dude gave him the beta build . 2 - time traveled , cause that al-ways worked , in some 80's movie with a time travellin ' car . (edited)
outside998 7/2/2018 3:53 PM
most likely case
3:54 PM
I will watch the series again, maybe he mentions something
Deleted User 7/2/2018 3:55 PM
i tl;dr'd some of the videos , he did not seem to acknowledge that the vid was a beta .
3:55 PM
the closest bein ' that he could not save state , or what ever ,
outside998 7/2/2018 3:58 PM
still, maybe I stumble over something
Deleted User 7/2/2018 4:02 PM
Let Us Check AGain .
GoofyG 7/2/2018 5:00 PM
I was actually interested to see if there were any files on Inside for Switch that weren’t present in other released versions.
5:03 PM
There’s a bizarre thing where if you wait near a printer long enough, it will start to spout one of a number of predetermined strings of patterns. The thing about that which makes me interested in a datamine of the game on different platforms is this printer thing. You see, there’s a different set of in-game codes depending on what console or computer you’re playing on.
GoofyG 7/2/2018 5:24 PM
I’m not just asking for myself. There are a number of people who are doing a lot of research into these games, and it would really help us a lot if someone could datamine Inside.
5:24 PM
On any platform possible.
Dezent 7/2/2018 5:25 PM
So you're asking if someone has knowledge on the inside
5:25 PM
:>
5:25 PM
i'll go now
GoofyG 7/2/2018 5:31 PM
5:31 PM
@Dezent I actually have a strong taste for puns. Don’t go.
5:31 PM
@Dezent
Dezent 7/2/2018 5:32 PM
tooooo laaate
GoofyG 7/2/2018 5:32 PM
I think your puns are very good. Well, they are… at least… dezent.
5:32 PM
Mwahahahaha
5:32 PM
!
5:32 PM
Dezent 7/2/2018 5:32 PM
goddamnit lol
5:33 PM
You have no idea how many times I've heard my name being referenced in a pun
GoofyG 7/2/2018 5:33 PM
They make for dezent puns.
Dezent 7/2/2018 5:34 PM
They sure do, but some of them are just plain goofy
GoofyG 7/2/2018 5:34 PM
Mwahahahaha
5:34 PM
5:34 PM
Anyways.
5:35 PM
There’s a code hidden in the game. I’m working with a server that’s trying to crack the code.
Dezent 7/2/2018 5:38 PM
Cracking the code like
1
5:38 PM
(okay I'll stop shitposting now)
GoofyG 7/2/2018 5:38 PM
5:39 PM
https://youtu.be/CQUfIxEFipY
blackheartgod
The King says Oh Ship for 10 minutes
Dezent 7/2/2018 5:40 PM
Ahhh... that video reminds me of the good ol' zelda & link youtube poops
GoofyG 7/2/2018 5:40 PM
MMMMMMMMM
5:40 PM
Hugette Hikari 7/2/2018 5:41 PM
i miss the days of spadinner
GoofyG 7/2/2018 5:43 PM
Somebody toucha my SPAGHET!
AloXado320 7/2/2018 6:04 PM
somebody toucha my unused content
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/2/2018 6:04 PM
I ain't the coder at all
Deleted User 7/2/2018 6:10 PM
YO MY MAN WHAT UP @CELL Broadband Engine 2006
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/2/2018 6:10 PM
ohai
Deleted User 7/2/2018 6:10 PM
why did i even join this server? idk im bored
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/2/2018 6:10 PM
yooooo
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/2/2018 6:11 PM
welcome to a kewl place
Deleted User 7/2/2018 6:12 PM
rareblin 7/2/2018 6:31 PM
has nobody ever realized that there's an object placed far out of bounds in the sixth special stage in sonic mania
blueskyrunner 7/2/2018 6:37 PM
Oh?
6:37 PM
What object?
rareblin 7/2/2018 6:37 PM
idk
6:38 PM
i was looking through level maps made by some guy which used a blue dot for every object and you can see one far off in the bottom left corner
6:38 PM
its hard to see but its there
blueskyrunner 7/2/2018 6:40 PM
Huh
punk7890 7/2/2018 6:43 PM
@Athena 悠里マヤ nice work
ErnestoAM 7/2/2018 7:46 PM
Not gonna lie, it looks like a Mario Kart Super Circuit track.
Deleted User 7/2/2018 8:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm6v_FQUlQc
Whang!
Tanya in Mortal Kombat 2?! - Gaming Mysteries
GoofyG 7/2/2018 11:16 PM
@Deleted User has been really helpful with accounting for the spare files hidden in the PC version of Inside’s files. Is anyone on here able to datamine the Switch, Xbox or PlayStation ports?
Deleted User 7/2/2018 11:19 PM
don't expect xbox to happen any time soon
GoofyG 7/2/2018 11:21 PM
Is Xbox particularly hard to datamine?
DarthDubඞ 7/2/2018 11:21 PM
only xbox one is as far as i am aware
11:21 PM
please correct me if i'm wrong
GoofyG 7/2/2018 11:22 PM
Shoot. The game is on the Xbox One.
11:22 PM
There was a “Special Edition” released for one of the PlayStations.
Δndrew P. 7/2/2018 11:42 PM
I’ve managed to decrypt and get the files from World of Final Fantasy (PS Vita) so maybe soon i might look into that game. I’ve peeked in earlier today and majority of the game data is just in a bunch of .DATs, along with a few .ACB/AWBs (AFS2) (and criware makes me wanna cry but i learned to deal with it)
11:44 PM
And im gonna look into Welcome Park (a built-in Vita game) as well (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/2/2018 11:50 PM
those deckey is
punk7890 7/3/2018 1:19 AM
Does anyone have a list of all of the playable demos contained inside Official US PlayStation 2 Magazine demo discs? I found some before, but I can't remember where
1:19 AM
Also a Dengeki PS2 list would be neat as well.
Deleted User 7/3/2018 1:46 AM
I would tell you but I'm Canadian and I don't know if my dad was even subscribed to the magazine
1:46 AM
Looks like I'm gonna have to go sleuthing through the interwebs
1:48 AM
well.. shit
1:48 AM
I'm stumped, there's mostly information on PS1 demo discs
leilei 7/3/2018 1:55 AM
oddly there's more dumps of demo discs than there's listings of what's on them
1:55 AM
last i checked 10 years ago anyway
☎ 7/3/2018 1:56 AM
When exporting audio to .ogg format what equality should I use?
leilei 7/3/2018 1:58 AM
i usually use 5.50
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 1:59 AM
speaking of dumped demo discs
DarthDubඞ 7/3/2018 1:59 AM
i like playing around with the billy hatcher demo
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 1:59 AM
it seems to be difficult to find dumps of dreamcast demo discs
leilei 7/3/2018 1:59 AM
that's true
DarthDubඞ 7/3/2018 1:59 AM
yikes
leilei 7/3/2018 1:59 AM
and oddly, pc demo discs aren't all really all dumped either
DarthDubඞ 7/3/2018 1:59 AM
my brother used to own all of them at one point
1:59 AM
at least for u.s.
2:00 AM
idk if he still has them
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:00 AM
i remember looking for generator vol 1 a while back and it took forever to find
2:00 AM
plus the american official dreamcast magazine discs apparently are even more difficult to find
leilei 7/3/2018 2:01 AM
there's more french pc demo cds dumped than america pc demo cds
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:01 AM
Probably because they were GD-ROM
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:01 AM
if i had to guess why, maybe it's because magazine demo disks are more popular outside of america
leilei 7/3/2018 2:01 AM
and i'm talking 90s here
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:01 AM
enough that they'd be better preserved
leilei 7/3/2018 2:02 AM
when these demo cds served as a curious convenience
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:02 AM
People probably didn't care to go through the effort to dump DC demo discs
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:02 AM
people still don't care
2:02 AM
it was just earlier this year that i was hunting for them
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:02 AM
GD-ROMs still aren't trivial to dump, after all.
leilei 7/3/2018 2:02 AM
the threshold of 'preservation'
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:03 AM
i mean, the entire dreamcast library is readily available as far as i know, except those demo discs
leilei 7/3/2018 2:04 AM
does redump list any of them?
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:04 AM
i saw the names in some list but i don't remember what it was
Bunkai 7/3/2018 2:04 AM
Maybe is a dumb question, but why demo cds are harder to dump?
ErnestoAM 7/3/2018 2:04 AM
Because they're rare
2:04 AM
And hoarders
Bunkai 7/3/2018 2:06 AM
Ah, it sounded like it was something about their format
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:06 AM
i'd wager that's also an issue
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:06 AM
Oh, Dreamcast demo discs specifically
ErnestoAM 7/3/2018 2:06 AM
Well, it could possibly be that too if they were made during development of a console.
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:06 AM
Dreamcast used GD-ROMs
2:07 AM
It was actually COTS equipment with an increased data rate
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:07 AM
i did actually find a dump of a demo disc, it wasn't set up like regular dreamcast games
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:07 AM
To store 1GB of data on CD-like optical media
punk7890 7/3/2018 2:08 AM
Had a look at OPM vol 69 and it looks like it contains a slightly early version of X-Men Next Dimension
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:08 AM
`Hugo Hikari - Yesterday at 23:59 it seems to be difficult to find dumps of dreamcast demo discs`
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
well, what i found for dreamcast magazine vol 4 was that it was split into individual tracks and a GDI file
punk7890 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
It also has a debug menu
2:09 AM
not sure if it's in retail version
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
so, obviously impossible to play in that form
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
@Hugette Hikari: Interesting.
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
I actually have a couple of Dreamcast demo discs from some magnazine from 2000 to 1999 thanks to my dad somehow being subbed to a magazine
leilei 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
Eric special
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
I thought I'd put one in my PC aaand all I got was Sega Swirl
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
I might have a demo disc or two as well
leilei 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
well yeah that's what they do
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:09 AM
leilei 7/3/2018 2:10 AM
complementary swirl on the first track
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:10 AM
GD-ROMs had a small bit readable by a normal CD-ROM drive
leilei 7/3/2018 2:10 AM
usually in that track is a txt file and some omake images and/or/maybe a song
punk7890 7/3/2018 2:10 AM
I can't remember but I don't think these outfits are in the final game. I could be wrong however. I haven't played this game in many years (edited)
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:10 AM
Then the rest was cut off by a nonstandard TOC and the aforementioned data rate change
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:11 AM
I remember looking at the discs wondering if a demo of Sonic Adventure or some shit was on it lol
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:11 AM
SA was a launch title, so unlikely
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:11 AM
generator vol 1 has a sonic adventure demo on it
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:11 AM
Oh?
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:11 AM
the only playable level is emerald coast
leilei 7/3/2018 2:12 AM
it's usually always a wallpaper or two
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:12 AM
2:12 AM
Looks a teeny tiny familiar
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:12 AM
that's the one
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:12 AM
It does
leilei 7/3/2018 2:13 AM
like the filthy softcore porn tasteful bikini pictures on the dead or alive 2 disc (edited)
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:13 AM
mostly the background
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:13 AM
supposedly generator vol 2 also has an sa1 demo
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:13 AM
Did that come with the DC?
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNyL0BUqoxI
Boomer reviews
Deming demos: Dreamcast generator vol 1
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:13 AM
leilei 7/3/2018 2:13 AM
PSX discs sometimes have pc bonuses too
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:13 AM
i keep thinking of Felix the Cat when I see that render
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:13 AM
Yes, I explicitly remember that disc
leilei 7/3/2018 2:14 AM
but as that's an earlier era it'd likely be 640x480 bmps or even windows icons at best (edited)
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:15 AM
I think I remember playing the THPS2 demo from it
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:15 AM
for the record, the sa1 demo has the intro movie and potentially the demo cutscenes at the title screen as well, so it's either a cut version of the final game or a very late demo
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:15 AM
Well, there IS a late protoype of SA
2:16 AM
It was rented out at Hollywood Video
2:16 AM
I have a copy that we bought from them when they shut down.
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:16 AM
sonic also has his running animation from the localized version
2:16 AM
so it's definitely not an early version
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:16 AM
Advertised as a "Special Edition" or somesuch (edited)
2:17 AM
It's actually a very late prototype
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:17 AM
interesting
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:17 AM
"Limited Edition"
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:17 AM
yeah, i think I've heard of that
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:18 AM
Two months before the final version
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:18 AM
to be fair the japanese version is also a very late beta
2:18 AM
with how busted it is
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:18 AM
BETA
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:18 AM
Oh, shut up
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:18 AM
Unrelated but some day I want to make a "demo that's not actually a demo" which is literally a bunch of stickmen talking... on the NES
eientei 7/3/2018 2:18 AM
Sonic Boom is a mid-development BETA
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:18 AM
pushes @!registerkey PPLTOasT back where he came from
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:18 AM
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:19 AM
Sonic Retro says the LE save files are identical to the JP version.
MysticSageJosh 7/3/2018 2:19 AM
i'm doing everything wrong (edited)
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:19 AM
yeah, that'd make sense then
leilei 7/3/2018 2:19 AM
nah, the 1998 version is alpha
eientei 7/3/2018 2:19 AM
Like spelling "wrong"
leilei 7/3/2018 2:19 AM
the 9-9-99 prototype is a beta
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:19 AM
no, THIS is how you do it
leilei 7/3/2018 2:19 AM
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:19 AM
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:20 AM
the japanese version is blatantly unfinished, even arguably on par with DX
leilei 7/3/2018 2:20 AM
sadx is a release candidate
eientei 7/3/2018 2:20 AM
@leilei is a day one patch
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:20 AM
DX broke more things than it fixed
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:21 AM
Yeah, well, it was a downgrade from the DC to the GCN
2:21 AM
So that's no surprise
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:21 AM
and then they port GC to PC
2:21 AM
and to this day use it
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:21 AM
there will never be a good port of sa1
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:21 AM
Nope.
leilei 7/3/2018 2:22 AM
or a good sa1 for that matter
2:22 AM
:)))))))))
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:22 AM
hey
MysticSageJosh 7/3/2018 2:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uNsTXIzgGI&ab_channel=BlazeHedgehog
BlazeHedgehog
The Definitive Way to Play Sonic Adventure
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:22 AM
There's a lot of first party Sega games that will never see a proper port.
leilei 7/3/2018 2:22 AM
the moment sonic team turned into bethesda
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:22 AM
people just resort to modding SADX PC with DC features but its kinda dirty (edited)
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:22 AM
to be fair sonic 3 is also really glitchy
2:23 AM
"Robotnik's speed traps"
eientei 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
Sonic * is also really glitchy
MysticSageJosh 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
Hey, at least it isn't SONIC 06 (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
speaking of sonic 3
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
Sonic 3 had it's own special problems
eientei 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
[insert game here] is really glitchy
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
i encountered a weird bug that i could never recreate
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
Like being one game that had to be split into two
leilei 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
agreed but [insert game here directors cut] is worse than the original
MysticSageJosh 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
You could do a glitch with sonic 3 and knuckles and it'd reboot as if you were playing sonic and knuckles (edited)
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
sonic team is very bad at bug testing and always has been
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:23 AM
i tapped B on the file select after completing the game and it took me to garbled up credits
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:24 AM
@!registerkey PPLTOasT: Unreproducable bugs aren't.
2:24 AM
They're glitches.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:24 AM
though for all we know, couldve been some emulation error with the mega collection
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:24 AM
Sonic Adventure wasn't really a bad game but wasn't a good one either tbh
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:25 AM
sonic adventure is my favorite sonic game tbh
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:25 AM
It was good.
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:25 AM
SADX's many port of a port of a port of a port of a port of a port released into Steams only made its reputation worse
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:25 AM
also game grumps
2:25 AM
can't forget their "contribution"
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:26 AM
SA2B on GC has some weird double jump bug where it registers your inputs twice sometimes
2:26 AM
really fucks you over
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:26 AM
That was another DC -> GCN downgrade port
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:26 AM
it's annoying because otherwise SA2B is a pretty good port
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:26 AM
I wonder how badly they'll fuck up the Shenmue port
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:27 AM
well, sega's only doing it for a quick buck anyway cause shenmue 3 is coming out
2:27 AM
they don't care about it
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:27 AM
They never did.
2:27 AM
Yu Suzuki's magnum opus
2:27 AM
And Sega never cared
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:28 AM
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:28 AM
if it doesn't get finished within his lifetime, i blame sega
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:28 AM
i guess i booted up 50Hz mode by accident lul
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:28 AM
also that reminds me of a bug i encountered on sa2 dreamcast
2:28 AM
when i was playing metal harbor, i would hear random sound effects playing quietly in the background
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:29 AM
that reminds me of something too
2:29 AM
i think pressing A on controller 2 would do some weird shit in metal harbor
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:29 AM
then when i got to the rocket segment, it started playing the last 3 played sound effects (pause sound, homing attack, and homing attack voice clip) rapidly and repeatedly
MysticSageJosh 7/3/2018 2:30 AM
https://youtu.be/qBwzPdNXk6o?t=15m29s
A+Start
Sonic 3 & Knuckles Glitches (Part Two) - Son Of A Glitch - Episode 47
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:30 AM
I've only encountered this on metal harbor so far
2:30 AM
also yeah apparently they didn't turn off a debug command for metal harbor, pressing something on the second controller spawns an invisible board for sonic
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:31 AM
Heh
MysticSageJosh 7/3/2018 2:32 AM
I wonder if there's a non debug way to do the glitch in the video i linked
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/3/2018 2:32 AM
2:32 AM
good ol 2016 me
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:32 AM
you can probably force a crash somehow
2:32 AM
or just cause one by accident
2:34 AM
it reminds me of when i went out of bounds in wing fortress in sonic 2 and just found a stack of repeating sprites
2:34 AM
but not as severe, since that just killed sonic by him falling
2:34 AM
i remember a super annoying glitch in sonic 1 that i had happen exactly once
Neko May 7/3/2018 2:35 AM
Hall of Mirrors?
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:35 AM
when i got to scrap brain act 3, instead of falling into gray labyrinth zone like sonic is supposed to, instead he fell through the loading zone and landed on the ceiling of the small area where the cutscene happens
2:36 AM
if i didn't have debug mode on, i would have had to restart the entire game due to me being stuck
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:37 AM
I actually fucked around on Scrap Brain Act 3 using a glitch where if you push a section of a stair after getting off the descending platform where that red enemy is in the start, you'll end up in the end of the stage after pushing and sinking downwards...?
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:38 AM
what is it about labyrinth zone that makes it so buggy
2:39 AM
does all that water just break the game or something
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:56 AM
Actually I once had the X360 port of Sonic 1 restart for no reason
2:57 AM
I replicated kinda of what I did and apparently by holding down in Labyrinth Zone when you finish it in a literal roll, you crash the game
2:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNm9Ah4Gl4
darkmessenger84
Sonic 1 - Labyrinth Zone Act 2, End of level crash
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:58 AM
yup, that happens 100% of the time, i think it got patched eventually though
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:58 AM
No, it didn't (except the shitty GBA port)
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:59 AM
i swear it doesn't work in mega collection
2:59 AM
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:59 AM
/dev/urandom 7/3/2018 3:00 AM
gotta love that ym2612 being stuck on one note
Deleted User 7/3/2018 3:01 AM
Don't do The Ring Ride, kids.
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Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 3:01 AM
much more pleasing than the hell screech of the gba
leilei 7/3/2018 3:02 AM
first a day in the life. and now revolution #9
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 3:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcIZryqkU44
Truesonic1
Sonic 1 "Go too fast and die"
Deleted User 7/3/2018 3:05 AM
its actually possible to save yourself from that bug
3:05 AM
3:05 AM
percisely when sonic reaches this point before the slope, jump
3:05 AM
you'll still retain your speed
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 3:08 AM
you'll never see it coming the first time though
3:10 AM
also what i find weird is that they patched the spike thing, the thing that wasn't even a bug, but apparently left all the other glitches in
punk7890 7/3/2018 6:42 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1014096890256748544
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a simple debug menu in Kowloon Youma Gakuenki (PS2) https://t.co/5fqRINUgHh This lets you simply change the day and will send you to your room.
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6:42 AM
Dezent 7/3/2018 6:46 AM
Nice nice
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/3/2018 7:11 AM
nice!
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 7:30 AM
Labyrinth Zone is due to a bug with graphics decompression that causes a race condition (edited)
7:35 AM
not fixed until Sonic 3 but I don’t know how you would reliably trigger it in Sonic 2
7:39 AM
possibly the additional processing being done for the screen being partially underwater in LBZ is what makes it easier to trigger this bug idk
ShiniiLevii 7/3/2018 7:53 AM
iirc you can do that bug in LBZ Act 2 in the 3DS version
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 7:59 AM
probably most ports except the DS one apparently
7:59 AM
that might even just be a quirk of the strange emulator and rom modifications they did to that (edited)
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 8:08 AM
would be interesting to check if regular JenesisDS crashes
Neko May 7/3/2018 8:29 AM
Any emulator should be "bug-compatible"
8:29 AM
If a bug happens on real hardware, it should happen in the emulator, too
8:30 AM
If it doesn't, something is wrong with your emulator.
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 8:32 AM
JenesisDS already had strange handling of a couple of obscure opcodes
8:33 AM
when they used it as the basis for Sonic Classics Collection they decided to alter the game ROMs to utilize this bug while making them unplayable on a normal emulator
8:33 AM
for some reason
8:35 AM
and also cutting out incompatiable features like 2 player
Neko May 7/3/2018 8:37 AM
"obscure opcodes"?
8:37 AM
It's a bog-standard 68000 and Z80
8:38 AM
There's no excuse for getting any part of either of those wrong
SheatNoisette 7/3/2018 8:40 AM
Question: Is Doom have difficulty level map like in quake ?
Neko May 7/3/2018 8:40 AM
Two of the most widely-used CPUs ever, both still in production.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/3/2018 8:42 AM
Exodus
Deleted User 7/3/2018 8:49 AM
It doesn't @SheatNoisette
8:49 AM
You select it from the menu in Doom. (edited)
SheatNoisette 7/3/2018 8:50 AM
8:50 AM
I found this in the e1m1 remake in Doom 2016.
8:51 AM
Switch Port.
Deleted User 7/3/2018 8:51 AM
Whoa.
SheatNoisette 7/3/2018 8:51 AM
Abusing the "Cinematic" thingy and going OoB.
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 8:58 AM
JenesisDS treated $Axxx and $Fxxx as if they were $6xxx instructions
8:58 AM
so things you would never see in a genesis game
9:00 AM
the sonic classic collection roms have all the branch instructions changed to this nonsense
9:00 AM
for reasons unclear to us outside the mad sega offices (edited)
Deleted User 7/3/2018 9:02 AM
I wonder if it's because they edited the roms a bit? I wouldn't have no idea, as I'm not the biggest Sega person.
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 9:04 AM
the only thing I can think of is futile dumping protection
9:05 AM
when you can get a sonic rom much easier a hundred other ways
Deleted User 7/3/2018 9:05 AM
Or knowing Sega, they probably used a bad dump?
9:05 AM
And they tried to fix it?
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 9:07 AM
It’s something you would only do on purpose with specific wrong emulator behavior. I think most sonic releases before now are standard dumps of common revisions
9:07 AM
nothing as bad as that shinobi proto that was mislabeled in an archive
Deleted User 7/3/2018 9:07 AM
Did Sega also accidentally put the proto of Comix Zone on VC before?
Neko May 7/3/2018 9:20 AM
@Netscape Navigator: That's one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever heard of
9:21 AM
"Line 1010 Emulator" is intended for creating custom instructions/system calls
9:22 AM
The handler looks at what caused it to come in and jumps to the appropriate place
9:22 AM
Typically this will cause a halt in most game since they don't use it and it means you've started executing garbage
9:23 AM
"Line 1111 Emulator" is for FP instructions, though the handler also allows for them to be emulated
9:23 AM
This is another indication you've gone off into the weeds on games, though.
9:25 AM
All instructions from $A000-$AFFF and $F000-$FFFF should absolutely cause their respective exceptions, otherwise you've seriously fucked up your emulation.
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 9:26 AM
Probably a case of just focusing on whatever commercial Genesis games need to work and doing something weird for no other reason
Neko May 7/3/2018 9:26 AM
(I love being an EE)
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 9:27 AM
for the author of JenesisDS anyway
Neko May 7/3/2018 9:27 AM
Well, if they did something that fucking insane, that's going to make me doubt literally everything else they've done
9:28 AM
You've done a pretty bad job when someone thinks Genecyst has better emulation
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 9:29 AM
genecyst can play s3k with better sound :v
Neko May 7/3/2018 9:29 AM
At least Genecyst got exceptions right
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 9:29 AM
(But that’s the fault of the ds specs)
Neko May 7/3/2018 9:29 AM
Yeah, the DS has a lousy ARM946E (edited)
9:30 AM
ARMv5TE (edited)
9:30 AM
So it's incredibly weak
9:31 AM
You've gotta make Genecyst-style concessions for it, but at least get all the instructions right
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 9:31 AM
i think that’s the 3DS lol
9:31 AM
DS is an ARM9 that you’re allowed to run code on
Neko May 7/3/2018 9:32 AM
You're right, my bad
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 9:32 AM
and supposedly the ARM7 should only run Nintendo SDK functions
Neko May 7/3/2018 9:32 AM
Let me doublecheck
9:33 AM
Corrected, it's an ARM946E
9:34 AM
ARMv5TE
9:34 AM
Which is even weaker
9:36 AM
The ARM7TDMI is ARMv4T, a step further back
9:36 AM
But yeah, that's only for internal use and playing GBA games
9:38 AM
Everything prior to ARMv7 is NRND by ARM Ltd
9:38 AM
Save for ARMv6-M
9:39 AM
I wonder if you can even license the old cores anymore. Probably not.
Netscape Navigator 7/3/2018 9:47 AM
hence Sonic Classics Collection strips out sound emulation for bad prerecorded music and sfx, and runs pretty badly on non-DSi systems with only the arm9 to run all the emulation
9:48 AM
not Sonic Genesis bad but yet another low quality product Sega was happy to sell
Neko May 7/3/2018 9:49 AM
Of course.
𒉭Ilyasim𒉭 7/3/2018 10:34 AM
Hey guys i'm novice?
10:34 AM
Looking for something
10:36 AM
10:36 AM
Alpha version this game very early
10:36 AM
1999.03.16
Borman 7/3/2018 10:56 AM
Is that the Akuji demo? https://www.thelostworlds.net/SR1/The_Lighthouse_Demo.html
The Lighthouse Demo - Soul Reaver - Legacy of Kain: The Lost Worlds
The first playable demo of Soul Reaver, released only for the Playstation.
10:56 AM
Hard to keep track of sometimes.
𒉭Ilyasim𒉭 7/3/2018 10:57 AM
No akuji alpha
10:58 AM
Alpha soul reaver
10:58 AM
Like this https://youtu.be/Z_afLP3tyWo
George Sears
Soul Reaver - 1999-03-16 video demo.
Borman 7/3/2018 11:01 AM
Good luck, doesnt seem like anyone has it thus far.
𒉭Ilyasim𒉭 7/3/2018 11:03 AM
https://youtu.be/XIylH29So_Q
Gh0stBlade
[Alpha] Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver Early Footage - Exclusive!
11:03 AM
This
11:04 AM
Author not have this anymore
𒉭Ilyasim𒉭 7/3/2018 11:18 AM
Press ptiduction disc
11:18 AM
Production
Sun Rays 7/3/2018 11:54 AM
diYrCbs/Nr
11:54 AM
@🔪 Mods
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/3/2018 11:54 AM
Deleted User 7/3/2018 11:55 AM
@Sun Rays `sxO74tKBHp`
Sun Rays 7/3/2018 11:55 AM
thanks
Deleted User 7/3/2018 11:55 AM
np
rampy 7/3/2018 11:55 AM
Welcome aboard
Neko May 7/3/2018 11:58 AM
Sun Rays like the thin clients?
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRX-C7kjy4Y
Spawn Wave
Taking Apart The Nintendo Switch Pro Controller! Secret Message In...
2:12 PM
there is secret text in the pro controller
2:16 PM
reminds me of https://i.imgur.com/EWHfhFo.jpg
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/3/2018 2:17 PM
is the message possibly something like
2:17 PM
we love gamers (edited)
Deleted User 7/3/2018 2:17 PM
thx2allgamefans
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/3/2018 2:17 PM
i think thats in the joycon controllers too
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 2:17 PM
"I hate video games"
Dezent 7/3/2018 2:22 PM
"help, I am trapped in a game controller factory, I feel like I'm on rails"
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/3/2018 2:26 PM
"hello from seattle" "made in china"
Deleted User 7/3/2018 3:01 PM
got bored , so tryin ' to create a video for a possible theory series , but do any of f got any name ideas ? - ? .
rampy 7/3/2018 3:08 PM
Possible Theory Series™
Deleted User 7/3/2018 3:17 PM
boi .
3:18 PM
i will . . . uhhh . . . do some thin ' to you ! - ! .
3:18 PM
throws cake .
3:18 PM
(╯°□°）╯︵ (edited)
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/3/2018 4:34 PM
thats actually a good name
susieq 7/3/2018 4:37 PM
but thats just a theory-a possible theory™
A Blob 7/3/2018 4:38 PM
The cutscene video for the Sonic Boom article should probably get updated because it does contain audio and it isn't just mute. https://twitter.com/AnotherBlob/status/1014246453437501440
A Blob (@AnotherBlob)
(Probably important to @MotoBadnik) Audio Channel 10 has actual audio for the unused prototype cutscene in Rise of Lyric. https://t.co/wzXCuezd1D
4:42 PM
The audio channels 6, 7, 8 and 9 have audio too.
4:47 PM
https://twitter.com/AnotherBlob/status/1014249035786608647
A Blob (@AnotherBlob)
@MotoBadnik Here's the full audio for the unused Rise of Lyric cutscene. https://t.co/prthxAuiSx
Xkeeper 7/3/2018 5:37 PM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/1014261068783235072
🌸 X/Revya 🌸 (@xkeepah)
uncovered a 25-year-old mystery (literally), in room 1-FD (the version on the right is from my renderer, before it gets to the walls/chest/ground that make up the cave) ... something about this feels really weird, somehow
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DarthDubඞ 7/3/2018 6:33 PM
What are you using as a renderer?
Xkeeper 7/3/2018 6:50 PM
some crap i wrote
DarthDubඞ 7/3/2018 6:51 PM
nice
6:51 PM
i also really like link's awakening
Xkeeper 7/3/2018 6:52 PM
Rena 7/3/2018 7:21 PM
There's hidden text inside my Nintendo too! "U1 CPU", "U2 PPU"... oh wait
Neko May 7/3/2018 7:50 PM
lol
AnkyloSource 7/3/2018 8:30 PM
I wanna know about that question mark on the ground
Xkeeper 7/3/2018 9:35 PM
theres not much else to know about it
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/3/2018 9:43 PM
I think it's a mystery
DarthDubඞ 7/3/2018 9:58 PM
Mystery Seeds?
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/3/2018 10:02 PM
Mystery skulls (edited)
DarthDubඞ 7/3/2018 10:03 PM
i was making a reference to the oracle games
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/3/2018 10:03 PM
I was making a reference to the band
Hugette Hikari 7/3/2018 10:03 PM
mysterious shells
GerbilSoft 7/3/2018 10:37 PM
woo, got another PR merged in dolphin
10:37 PM
https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/pull/7191 (edited)
CMake: Use thin archives on Linux. by GerbilSoft · Pull Request #...
Thin archives contain pathnames pointing to the object files instead of full copies of the object files. This significantly reduces the disk usage when building Dolphin. Size of *.a files: (gcc-8.1...
10:38 PM
reduces the disk usage when building on linux
Rena 7/3/2018 10:38 PM
Deleted User 7/3/2018 10:39 PM
hello
NachtKitty 7/3/2018 10:41 PM
Hi
punk7890 7/3/2018 11:05 PM
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Super Nintendo Chalmers 7/3/2018 11:22 PM
that Shinobi ps2?
punk7890 7/3/2018 11:26 PM
yes
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/4/2018 12:06 AM
there is hidden on my Megadrive too! "SEGA VA1"…wait
divingkxt 7/4/2018 12:23 AM
" By enabling the Cement Truck Drone, the Armoured Car Drone and the Forklift Drone<ref>The Forklift Drone doesn't have the animation to walk with the object.</ref> to pick up swinging object and enabling the animations, their swinging animation can be seen."
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12:24 AM
What on earth are they trying to say here?
punk7890 7/4/2018 1:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-2LsE4Ci5c
UncommentatedPannen
Sending Koopa the Quick to a PU
old acc! inactive 7/4/2018 1:22 AM
is this dare i say
1:22 AM
too much power
ErnestoAM 7/4/2018 5:04 AM
But first, let's talk about parallel universes.
Ziella 7/4/2018 6:22 AM
Hey, question. If one version of a game has only one unused asset that another version doesn't, is it alright to add it to the main page, and just mention that it's only in like, the PS4 version of the game? Instead of making a whole page for one image. (edited)
Deleted User 7/4/2018 9:08 AM
yes
Rena 7/4/2018 11:45 AM
@divingkxt "by enabling these vehicles to pick up swinging objects (and enabling the animation), their swinging animation can be seen. (The forklift drone doesn't have a "walk with object" animation)
11:45 AM
Just misuse of ref tag
11:46 AM
Presumably those vehicles can't normally pick up swinging objects, but have an unused animation for it
11:47 AM
Or they might have meant "pick up and swing objects" if their grammar is particularly bad
chlœrawr ♀ 7/4/2018 1:37 PM
@Rena Might be it was planned for them to be able to do so, but was scrapped before release as they probably didn't have time to code it in
DarthDubඞ 7/4/2018 6:29 PM
i feel like the sega saturn and playstation 1 pages for mega man 8 should be merged
][STA][T3K 7/4/2018 7:11 PM
gooday
Zerovii 7/4/2018 7:25 PM
I can see that, the only difference is the subtitle shout in the saturn and the shoot shoot icons in psx
Mr.64 7/4/2018 7:39 PM
https://goo.gl/i4K2OR
MEGA
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7:40 PM
These are models of maps from banjo kazooie nuts and bolts demo.
7:41 PM
That contain 2 test maps and the lost level called "wild west" (edited)
Mr.64 7/4/2018 7:52 PM
Also from conker ect demo, There is a hidden debug selection that couldn't be seen normally, by enabling the Cutscene Skip and Unlocking all chapters would make you enter clang lair with it actors. (edited)
7:52 PM
. (edited)
divingkxt 7/4/2018 9:26 PM
Anyhow, WHOO! My score is 32,768.
9:27 PM
How about I take a year-long break from contributing?
9:27 PM
Still be around here, but yeah...
Deleted User 7/4/2018 9:32 PM
Speaking of Conker, has anyone checked the .mp3 files from the demo in more detail? I found some oddities a long time ago.
Deleted User 7/4/2018 10:05 PM
@divingkxt your next goal is 65536
divingkxt 7/4/2018 10:06 PM
https://tcrf.net/Special:ContributionScores
Special:ContributionScores
10:06 PM
Your score is 6,916.
10:06 PM
I'll get back to editing once 5 people beat my score.
Deleted User 7/4/2018 10:06 PM
lol
GerbilSoft 7/4/2018 10:07 PM
oh, wikiscore is back? :V
Deleted User 7/4/2018 10:07 PM
it never left
Super Nintendo Chalmers 7/4/2018 10:33 PM
GG DK!
10:33 PM
all the points
divingkxt 7/4/2018 10:41 PM
Yep.
10:41 PM
Gonna try to catch up with other things.
10:41 PM
Like DingusPPC.
10:41 PM
Because yeah, I gotta test that thing for once.
Super Nintendo Chalmers 7/4/2018 10:49 PM
right on
punk7890 7/4/2018 11:11 PM
@divingkxt nice work!
divingkxt 7/4/2018 11:24 PM
Thank you.
DarthDubඞ 7/4/2018 11:24 PM
i appreciate everything you do diving
Zerovii 7/4/2018 11:26 PM
you do fantastic work diving
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divingkxt 7/4/2018 11:40 PM
If people want to beat my score, here's how:
11:41 PM
Categorize uncategorized files
11:41 PM
Astrogrep through anything, even executables and images.
11:41 PM
Take clean screenshots. Or upload title screens for games that don't have one yet.
11:42 PM
Move files around to have correct names.
divingkxt 7/4/2018 11:51 PM
There's also loads of Google searching involved.
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/5/2018 12:02 AM
@divingkxt nice! すごいです!
MysticSageJosh 7/5/2018 12:07 AM
Eats corn i uh.. still haven't done anything yet
12:07 AM
odds are someone added in nurse joy's back sprite before i did
Zerovii 7/5/2018 12:14 AM
as a longtime lurker first time donator I figured that there is a mint of points in adding proper screenshots
Neko May 7/5/2018 12:26 AM
I just fix typos and grammatical errors.
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 12:45 AM
i only look at new content
punk7890 7/5/2018 1:00 AM
I debug
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/5/2018 1:34 AM
I translate
Xkeeper 7/5/2018 1:37 AM
i keep the lights on
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Nex 7/5/2018 1:42 AM
Deleted User 7/5/2018 1:42 AM
I cheer on in the shadows
Nex 7/5/2018 1:42 AM
I sit in school waiting for freedom
Deleted User 7/5/2018 1:43 AM
I struggle to grasp how one can look at models in a dumped 3ds game
1:44 AM
After I figure this out I'll probably just disappear from the internet. I can't handle the toxicity I see everyday in other places
Neko May 7/5/2018 1:44 AM
Heehee
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 1:44 AM
what 3ds game?
Deleted User 7/5/2018 1:45 AM
Same game I put off due to me not being able to view the models and the files in a folder named "Debug": Strange Journey Redux
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 1:46 AM
file extension?
Deleted User 7/5/2018 1:46 AM
As it stand I have a partial romfs dump. ( partial bc it fails to dump the movies and music)
1:48 AM
I kinda give up due to 2 facts I concluded. 1) all the files may be proprietary and may not even be able to open without the corresponding software 2)ctrtool likes to die while dumping music and movies (edited)
1:49 AM
file extension? well for starters there's the mbm format
1:49 AM
it may be the multi-bitmap file format
1:50 AM
but I'd have no way of opening
1:50 AM
just to confirm
1:50 AM
then you have the files that are compressed
1:52 AM
I decompressed most of those thanks to the help given by Ehm (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/5/2018 2:34 AM
@Deleted User why not like use GM9
Deleted User 7/5/2018 2:44 AM
hm?
2:44 AM
I did use gm9 to decrypt the CIA into a 3ds file
2:44 AM
Then used ctrtool
2:45 AM
Now I'm looking at a toolkit for Star Trek: Deep Space 9
2:50 AM
now arkcmp2bmp
2:54 AM
this is the result.
2:57 AM
Its something.
2:57 AM
but disappointed
3:02 AM
this is a cmp file converted into a bitmap (edited)
Xkeeper 7/5/2018 3:23 AM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/1014770581575688193
🌸 X/Revya 🌸 (@xkeepah)
anyway if you want to see what i've been writing down, here you go. it's full of technical bullshit https://t.co/pks1fynrYY
Deleted User 7/5/2018 3:25 AM
nice
3:28 AM
Ah joy
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 3:28 AM
@🔧 Admins fixed (edited)
Deleted User 7/5/2018 3:28 AM
Any mods
3:28 AM
@Xkeeper got beat to the punch in nuking a spamming monkey (edited)
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 3:28 AM
@🔪 Mods fixed (edited)
Revenant 7/5/2018 3:28 AM
eat shit guy
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 3:28 AM
thank you
Deleted User 7/5/2018 3:29 AM
I walk into.....this....
Xkeeper 7/5/2018 3:29 AM
devin beat me. rip
Hugette Hikari 7/5/2018 3:29 AM
what happened
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 3:29 AM
xkeeper posts cool shit, someone decides to spam
3:29 AM
smh
Deleted User 7/5/2018 3:29 AM
lots of fum
Revenant 7/5/2018 3:29 AM
some moron was flooding for about 10 seconds and then got nuked
3:29 AM
nothing to see here
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 3:30 AM
i remember downloading it last night and doing nothing else
3:30 AM
thanks for reminding me
3:32 AM
i really should organize stuff that's betas/demos etc
Deleted User 7/5/2018 3:32 AM
I give up.
Xkeeper 7/5/2018 3:32 AM
can you still spell "ass" in it
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DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 3:33 AM
oh i remember now
3:33 AM
i was like wat
Xkeeper 7/5/2018 3:34 AM
I played wordtris a lot but it's like 12:34 and I should be in bed
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 3:34 AM
hey we're on the same time zone
Deleted User 7/5/2018 3:35 AM
Its 2:34 and I can't sleep
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 3:37 AM
it works on bgb
leilei 7/5/2018 3:37 AM
i played the shareware variant textris more
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 3:38 AM
interesting game
3:38 AM
is it cause of the header?
3:39 AM
i got some weird message
3:39 AM
but it ran anyways
3:39 AM
let me rerun it and copy paste
3:39 AM
"Rom size in header does not match actual rom size. ROM checksum fails. A real gameboy wouldn't care."
3:40 AM
this is from bgb btw
3:40 AM
i unzipped it too
3:44 AM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/1014770581575688193
🌸 X/Revya 🌸 (@xkeepah)
anyway if you want to see what i've been writing down, here you go. it's full of technical bullshit https://t.co/pks1fynrYY
3:44 AM
yes i'm resharing xkeeper's post
Drac 7/5/2018 4:25 AM
punk7890 7/5/2018 6:03 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1014809476220588037
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu and 2 unused maps in Shinobi (PS2) https://t.co/xqdGdk5HUk This menu allows you to unlock everything, turn on debug information, and select any level in the game. The unused maps contain various terrain types and platforms.
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MysticSageJosh 7/5/2018 6:03 AM
legend has it that Punk7890 is just an artificial intelligence that's purpose is finding debug menus
ErnestoAM 7/5/2018 6:04 AM
I believe so
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/5/2018 6:31 AM
U.N.Owen was punk7890
6:31 AM
it's common sence
6:32 AM
he have superior bullet hell
eientei 7/5/2018 6:32 AM
@punk7890 dreams debug
punk7890 7/5/2018 6:33 AM
it's true
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/5/2018 6:39 AM
@punk7890 nice work!
punk7890 7/5/2018 6:39 AM
thanks
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/5/2018 9:56 AM
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9:57 AM
I found debug display in Fuujin Ryouiki Eretzvuju.
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/5/2018 10:05 AM
This debug display similar to Simple 1500 series Vol.22 The Pro Wrestling.
DeadlyDilemma 7/5/2018 10:14 AM
hello lads
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/5/2018 10:14 AM
hi
DeadlyDilemma 7/5/2018 10:15 AM
whats new with you pikachu athena?
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/5/2018 10:16 AM
I found a debug display as above.
DeadlyDilemma 7/5/2018 10:17 AM
Excellent. not familar with this game
Andreelikes 7/5/2018 10:27 AM
Did you dig into the files of the game to find The Pro Wrestling leftovers in Fuujin Ryouiki Eretzvuju?
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/5/2018 10:29 AM
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/5/2018 10:29 AM
not yet. and I noticed Fuujin Ryouiki Eretzvaju is early release than The Pro Wrestling. I check it now.
FMecha 7/5/2018 10:30 AM
Same devs (Yuke's) right?
10:31 AM
You're likely to find early SmackDown! assets in The Pro Wrestling anyway
10:31 AM
And probably those from a Toukon Retsuden game
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/5/2018 10:32 AM
yes. developed by Yuke's.
FMecha 7/5/2018 10:33 AM
I've made an account on the Legends of Modding forums to tell them on TPW debug menu so they can dig out early SD1 stuff on TPW, but they never approved my account
DeadlyDilemma 7/5/2018 10:37 AM
Athena you are doing great work here
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/5/2018 10:38 AM
thank you!
DeadlyDilemma 7/5/2018 10:41 AM
reading about this wacky game now. i feel like "random article" on tcrf leads to often a japanese game lmao. so many games ive never heard of !
leilei 7/5/2018 3:22 PM
EVIL ZONE!! (edited)
3:22 PM
nice!
3:22 PM
and yeah i'd expect the same in WWF Smackdown! and Smackdown! 2 for the PSX (edited)
3:23 PM
though there is a leaked proto of WWF Smackdown! out there already (edited)
3:23 PM
maybe that can help on finding bits for debugs in other yukes stuffs
{λ²} Д-Ø-Գ 강아지 7/5/2018 4:43 PM
hello world
Dezent 7/5/2018 4:57 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Auybzq7.mp4
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{λ²} Д-Ø-Գ 강아지 7/5/2018 4:58 PM
:)
Neko May 7/5/2018 7:25 PM
@{λ²} Д-Ø-Գ 강아지: Hello. :3
7:26 PM
Cute avatar! Are you a fellow furry, by chance?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/5/2018 7:36 PM
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:02 PM
my discord server is 98 percent furries
8:03 PM
the only ones who arent are me and another dev
8:03 PM
unless you discount scalies
8:03 PM
then thats one less
{λ²} Д-Ø-Գ 강아지 7/5/2018 8:14 PM
@Neko May yes I am
Neko May 7/5/2018 8:16 PM
@{λ²} Д-Ø-Գ 강아지: Cool! ^w^
{λ²} Д-Ø-Գ 강아지 7/5/2018 8:16 PM
:D
Neko May 7/5/2018 8:16 PM
^w^
Dezent 7/5/2018 8:23 PM
I feel like you have some kind of a superpower, knowing whether someone is a furry or not :P
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:23 PM
furries usually stick up for eachother
Hugette Hikari 7/5/2018 8:24 PM
do they?
8:24 PM
I've never experienced that
Dezent 7/5/2018 8:24 PM
I guess, I'm not one so I can't really say anything on that matter
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:24 PM
They do, but it depends on how the situation goes
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:24 PM
true
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:24 PM
Some actually do, and some are just "back off hater!!!!111"
Hugette Hikari 7/5/2018 8:25 PM
i've only been ostracized and alienated for being a furry
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:25 PM
If you've been to g+ oh GOD
Dezent 7/5/2018 8:25 PM
What did you expect from G+?
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:25 PM
im just making an observation and i dont juge based on intrests if anything at all
Hugette Hikari 7/5/2018 8:26 PM
people use G+?
Dezent 7/5/2018 8:26 PM
I did, and my friend circle too, at one point
8:26 PM
Then it faded away
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:26 PM
A few people i know online only use g+ for some reason so i have it just to keep contact with them.
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:26 PM
ive never used g+
Dezent 7/5/2018 8:26 PM
Good, don't
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:26 PM
G+ is the annoying cousin of tumblr
Hugette Hikari 7/5/2018 8:26 PM
i've only known people using G+ because youtube forced them to
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:26 PM
skype and discord are supirior
Dezent 7/5/2018 8:27 PM
*Discord is superior
8:27 PM
Skype is a horrible piece of shit software too
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:27 PM
What about Ch@b Talk
Hugette Hikari 7/5/2018 8:27 PM
older skype versions are ok
8:27 PM
i never update
Dezent 7/5/2018 8:27 PM
I still remember when someone got access to my Hotmail / Outlook because my Skype and MS account was linked
Hugette Hikari 7/5/2018 8:28 PM
the second i update it, or when skype inevitably brute forces me into it" everything is going to break
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:28 PM
still better than g+ especially when discord didnt have a linux port
Dezent 7/5/2018 8:28 PM
Here's the kicker: I had 2FA
8:28 PM
So somehow a guy from the USA, managed to get into my email, by using my Skype name, eventhough I had an unique password and 2FA. Pretty cool.
Hugette Hikari 7/5/2018 8:29 PM
remember, kids: when microsoft gets their hands on something, it's fucked
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:29 PM
thats why we use discord
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:29 PM
2FA is really annoying with iCloud
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 8:29 PM
never use hotmail
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:29 PM
didnt say i liked skype
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:29 PM
every time i login it asks me for 2FA and my phone is at the other side of the house
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:29 PM
i just dont like g+
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:29 PM
i dont wither
8:30 PM
but i keep it just for communication
8:30 PM
*either
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:30 PM
its preinstalled in windows 10
Δndrew P. 7/5/2018 8:31 PM
eww
Dezent 7/5/2018 8:31 PM
I just straight up said fuck it to Skype, put my Discord account name + discriminator in status msg and said to contact there if you wanted to still talk
8:31 PM
I assume all have faded away from there, too, no contact from them for a looong time, and it's good, some of them were arseholes and I don't want anything to do with them lmao
Deleted User 7/5/2018 8:32 PM
if you really wanted to put on the tinfoil hat you can switch to a gnu fsf certified linux distro
8:34 PM
only use libre open source software and get a internet adapter with a physical kill switch
8:34 PM
but most people rely on closed source software
8:35 PM
use one closed source program and it defeats the purpose (edited)
divingkxt 7/5/2018 9:29 PM
Anyone got a copy of Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag?
9:30 PM
There's a hidden audio message from John of IT hidden in the game's files.
9:30 PM
He insults those hacking the game too.
Zerovii 7/5/2018 9:37 PM
I have it installed at the moment from the steam release, would it be in there?
divingkxt 7/5/2018 9:38 PM
Yes.
Zerovii 7/5/2018 9:39 PM
theres a folder for sounddata in .pck files, hmm
divingkxt 7/5/2018 9:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkAt2btWDnc
Kosappi Uni
John from IT Easter Egg (hidden audio) | Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag
9:41 PM
Here's the sound file itself.
9:42 PM
Just need to find where it is in the game's files.
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 9:45 PM
i could try looking into the wii u version
9:46 PM
but only if it's on eshop
Zerovii 7/5/2018 9:47 PM
found a pck extractor to mp3, gonna look through them now
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 9:53 PM
yep it's on eshop
9:55 PM
it has an update too so i'll see if it's in the base game (edited)
Laenthor 7/5/2018 10:01 PM
Lol I have it on disc
10:01 PM
The framerate is just horrible
divingkxt 7/5/2018 10:18 PM
No surprise given this is Ubisoft.
3
Laenthor 7/5/2018 10:18 PM
Sometimes I'm ashamed of being French Canadian because of them...
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 10:19 PM
rayman 4 when ; O;
divingkxt 7/5/2018 10:20 PM
When the Rabbids fade out of sight and 3D platformers start becoming innovative again.
10:20 PM
And not just for DLC or server gimmicks.
Zerovii 7/5/2018 10:30 PM
Id be happy with rayman 1-3 on switch or something
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Zerovii 7/5/2018 10:53 PM
also holy cow this conversion and unpacking is taking a good deal of time
10:53 PM
it better be as hidden as I expect and hidden in sfx and not one of the localized va files
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 11:21 PM
which file?
11:26 PM
unpacking into loadiine as we speak
Zerovii 7/5/2018 11:27 PM
sounds_sfx.pck was what I was trying at
11:28 PM
granted the others will take anywhere from 1/2 to 1/10 of the time
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 11:43 PM
finally it's done unpacking
11:43 PM
now i can look at the game's files
11:44 PM
uhh
11:49 PM
let me know when you find it
Zerovii 7/5/2018 11:50 PM
welp, I complained I was bored on vacation anyway..
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 11:50 PM
actually i got a better idea
11:51 PM
what's the tool you used?
11:51 PM
i'm gonna look in sounds_eng.pck
Zerovii 7/5/2018 11:51 PM
wwise unpacker
11:51 PM
http://allsoundsasscreed.tumblr.com/post/44227512337/how-to-extract-audio-from-assassins-creed-series
All Sounds of Assassin's Creed
How to Extract Audio from Assassin's Creed series
Due to the popularity of the request, I’ve decided to post on how I extract audio files from AC2 to Origins. This method has only been tested on Windows 64-bit. Please do not ask about methods for...
11:51 PM
I got it from this thing
DarthDubඞ 7/5/2018 11:54 PM
thanks
11:55 PM
i chose unpack to ogg
Δndrew P. 7/6/2018 12:27 AM
A website that you could access in-game, in Dokodemo Issyo: Let’s Gakkou! is still up for 10+ years, but sadly it said that a service was discontinued a while ago, from 2006-2008. I wonder what it was. (The game is still playable offline) There are a few things that you could download directly (.DLR Files, but when i looked inside them they were just URL Links to Infoseek. ) (edited)
DarthDubඞ 7/6/2018 12:27 AM
man it's still going
Δndrew P. 7/6/2018 12:29 AM
There was this other site i wanna go to in-game, but PSP gives me “There’s not enough memory” errors even with the right browser memory settings
Δndrew P. 7/6/2018 12:38 AM
Yup, main homepage is shut down, browser gives me a DNS Error after 4 retries (edited)
DarthDubඞ 7/6/2018 12:44 AM
10,786 files in sounds_eng.pck
cuba200611 7/6/2018 1:14 AM
@divingkxt I have a copy of Black Flag - but for the PS4, not PC.
divingkxt 7/6/2018 1:14 AM
Ouch.
DarthDubඞ 7/6/2018 1:49 AM
i'll listen to these tomorrow when i'm more sane
Huks 7/6/2018 2:57 AM
Rayman 4 is happening when Michel Ancel is finished with BG&E2 and Wild
2:58 AM
So probably 2025 at the earliest
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 2:58 AM
is that true?
Neko May 7/6/2018 3:08 AM
PSE&G
DarthDubඞ 7/6/2018 3:10 AM
what are these abbreviations of
Neko May 7/6/2018 3:10 AM
Mine is an electric/gas company
3:10 AM
lol
Huks 7/6/2018 3:14 AM
Beyond Good and Evil 2
3:15 AM
I'm only joking about the date but it'll be years before Ancel has time to devote to Rayman since both of his current titles have suffered from development hell
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 3:15 AM
if we actually get rayman 4 and it's finally another 3d rayman game, i'll be overjoyed
3:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHSWxxK6nA8&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=lIR2wLLVWDk3o6zv-6
TheZZAZZGlitch
VBA 1.8.0, VBA-M 2.0.2 - Multiple vulnerabilities in ELF file parser
DarthDubඞ 7/6/2018 3:23 AM
maybe they should make an actual definitive edition of rayman 2
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 3:23 AM
better than revolution?
DarthDubඞ 7/6/2018 3:23 AM
yes
3:23 AM
revolution suffered from framerate issues
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 3:25 AM
as long as they give an option for "raymanese" for the language track instead of just forcing the dub on you
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 3:25 AM
Lua ACE?
3:26 AM
that's not new :p
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 3:26 AM
well it's just further cementing that VBA is shit
3:26 AM
"Loading specially prepared ELF files could either result in running untrusted code outside the emulator, or leak information about the outside environment to the emulated ROM, including user account information, filesystem paths, configuration, or even save data from other games."
DarthDubඞ 7/6/2018 3:27 AM
didn't vba-m get an update?
Cuyler 7/6/2018 3:37 AM
We have arbitrary code execution in Animal Crossing now
3:37 AM
https://puu.sh/ARLd1/9ee6b71269.mp4
3:37 AM
We can write to anywhere in memory via the NES game loader
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 3:47 AM
@Cuyler Hey
3:48 AM
how much does it allows
3:48 AM
maybe memcard loading
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 3:53 AM
does this mean i can get the forbidden NES games without action replay?
3:53 AM
or change my villagers?
Cuyler 7/6/2018 3:59 AM
yes
3:59 AM
it means we have access to the entirety of RAM
3:59 AM
we can write code to it
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:00 AM
finally
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:00 AM
What I showed off there wasn't code being written, but rather me setting two inventory items to something I didn't have (NES + 30K bell bag)
4:00 AM
but it's easy enough to inject code
MysticSageJosh 7/6/2018 4:00 AM
so does this mean we could theoretically patch the game so the "forbidden 4" into a shop or something?
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
yes
MysticSageJosh 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
I dunno shit
4:01 AM
oh, cool
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
Hm
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
nothing is impossible to obtain now
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
If there's anything you can imagine doing it's possible now
4:01 AM
without an AR
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
Now write loader then lol
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
I did write a loder
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
i've dreamed of this day
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
loader*
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
I think Stg2 via Memcard
4:01 AM
is possible
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
that's the loader
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:01 AM
O
4:01 AM
Easy lol
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:02 AM
It's too big so I don't wanna leave it up
4:02 AM
But it's open source lol
4:02 AM
I'm adding the functionality into my NES Save File creator program I wrote
Neko May 7/6/2018 4:02 AM
@Cuyler: Fuckin' awesome. :D
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:03 AM
@Neko May do you have 3DS?
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:03 AM
It was mainly @pyrocow's discovery
4:03 AM
I just wrote the loader
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:03 AM
between this and the discovery of the debug menu
4:03 AM
it's a good year for animal crossing
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:03 AM
yeah
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:03 AM
or anyone have CFW'd 3ds?
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:04 AM
You can start swiss now with AC
4:04 AM
an easy to get game
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:04 AM
lol
Neko May 7/6/2018 4:04 AM
I don't have a 3DS, sorry
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:04 AM
mk
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/6/2018 4:04 AM
cuyler gonna jack up the price of AC on ebay now
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
anyone have CFW'd O3DS, ping me… (edited)
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
haha
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
but can we turn AC into a completely different game
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
yes
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
like what somebody did for that one pokemon TAS
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
this allows you to write as much data as you want
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
the one with the spongebob clip
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
Because you can essentially read w/e you want
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
^
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:05 AM
w/o any sandbox restriction
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:06 AM
idk if we were limited by like size restrictions or something, because AC is a very small game
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/6/2018 4:06 AM
ugh the euro versions like 40+ bucks
4:06 AM
life sucks
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:06 AM
it'll be fun if you can load smth from Memcard
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:06 AM
Before it was limited to offsets 0x80000000 - 0x8007FFFF, but with my loader it can patch an address
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:06 AM
like recent ADGQ TAS block
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:06 AM
I don't see why you couldn't
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:06 AM
Fzero GX
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:06 AM
what's SMTH?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:06 AM
something
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:07 AM
oh
4:07 AM
haha
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/6/2018 4:07 AM
youd just be limited by the amount of the memory card here right?
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:07 AM
yes
4:07 AM
unless there is a size restriction on save files
4:07 AM
(I don't think there is)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:07 AM
but that's easy to circumvent
4:07 AM
why not read memcard directly, notvia savedata :p
Neko May 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
So it's basically a GameCube Yaroze
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
yea
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
could you theoretically mod a gamecube with this if it can read off of the memory card
Neko May 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
As long as the code fits in RAM
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
Well the exploit works by loading a fake NES save file from your memory card
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
@Hugette Hikari modded wii can write to gc memcard
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
i know that
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
it takes advantage of the memcard NES rom loader we discovered last week
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
i meant an actual gamecube
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
hence it's possible to plant some stg2 payload.
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
I'm going to try and load swiss from AC
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
go ahead
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/6/2018 4:08 AM
you need to write the NES rom save via a Wii
4:09 AM
cant be done on a GC
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:09 AM
it'll be fun lpl
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:09 AM
darn
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:09 AM
yea
Neko May 7/6/2018 4:09 AM
Think there might be a way to load burned games using this?
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:09 AM
modded wii has more utility anyway i guess
4:09 AM
that's what i was asking
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/6/2018 4:10 AM
only use for homebrew access on a GC is GBI for the GBP
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:10 AM
(burn 1.3GB into 8cm dvd)
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:10 AM
it's possible, with the power of hacking magic
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:10 AM
also for wii :p
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/6/2018 4:10 AM
i think AUF might be the cheapest of the bunch for a save exploit game on GC
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:11 AM
I don't know if that can be patched @Hugette Hikari
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:11 AM
if what can be patched?
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:11 AM
But since you can load swiss, you can run backups off of a wiikey fusion I think
4:11 AM
well yeah, if you can patch it via code then sure
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:12 AM
not possible
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:12 AM
That's what I guessed
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 4:12 AM
i'm lost
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 4:12 AM
since all code is in ROM, nobody can patch those exploits
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:12 AM
That's why swiss is the better option (and why I'm going to try and load it)
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:31 AM
Postponing trying to load swiss directly into RAM since it'll overwrite the loader unless I make it copy itself to a different location in RAM first lol
Neko May 7/6/2018 4:32 AM
Not very useful to pull the rug out from under yourself
4:32 AM
lol
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:32 AM
yeah
4:32 AM
But I could do something easy like get the F4 into the game etc
4:33 AM
as a demonstration
4:33 AM
or something else if anyone has any ideas
Neko May 7/6/2018 4:33 AM
Definitely go for that.
4:34 AM
Anyway, past 4:30AM here, need to sleep. Good night, all! ^w^
Cuyler 7/6/2018 4:52 AM
@MysticSageJosh Here's proof you can get the F4 via this method
4:52 AM
https://puu.sh/ARMAE/e311d77c6d.mp4
MysticSageJosh 7/6/2018 5:00 AM
again, i barely understand this
5:00 AM
But that's cool (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 5:26 AM
@Cuyler can I have source code? I'm interested in
Cuyler 7/6/2018 5:31 AM
Yeah I'll publish it as an extension of my AC NES ROM injector tomorrow after I clean it up
5:31 AM
The link to that tool is in the Tools section if you're interested. It's on GitHub
Cuyler 7/6/2018 6:11 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] You can check out the latest source code now here: https://github.com/Cuyler36/ACNESCreator
Cuyler36/ACNESCreator
ACNESCreator - A program that creates Animal Crossing NES ROM save files for Animal Crossing to load
6:11 AM
Specifically this commit: https://github.com/Cuyler36/ACNESCreator/commit/a2c3ceb174c952454e45cb4c3178b105d9f72618
Implement ACE Patch for non-NES ROMs · Cuyler36/ACNESCreator@a2c3ceb
To load code with it, the file used as the NES ROM must fullow this format: 0x00 - 0x03: Write Offset: Example: 0x80003100 0x04 - 0x07: Write Length: Example: 0x00000008 (8 bytes to write) 0x8+...
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/6/2018 6:12 AM
o C# (edited)
Cuyler 7/6/2018 6:13 AM
yeah
6:13 AM
pyrocow has a python version but it doesn't have the loader I made included
6:13 AM
if you're more comfortable with python
MysticSageJosh 7/6/2018 6:24 AM
https://tcrf.net/images/a/a5/MK2ShaoKahnStanding.gif this is fucking hilarious to me and i don't know why
Dezent 7/6/2018 6:25 AM
tbag intensifies
Nex 7/6/2018 6:25 AM
lmao
MysticSageJosh 7/6/2018 6:25 AM
Just make that the victory animation
6:26 AM
Tbag
Deleted User 7/6/2018 6:50 AM
also guys
6:50 AM
you know that sonic cd unused sprites for the special stage
6:50 AM
the one for "jumping"
6:50 AM
well after looking at it i realized something
6:51 AM
the sprite's actually a unused "leadup" to a sequence of sonic jumping off a cliff or something
6:51 AM
it would've looked like this (imagine the platforms)
6:51 AM
Neko May 7/6/2018 7:24 AM
Nonlooping animated GIFs are weird
Zerovii 7/6/2018 8:58 AM
that makes a lot more sense
Netscape Navigator 7/6/2018 9:37 AM
hi this is sonic the hedgehog and welcome to jackass (edited)
MysticSageJosh 7/6/2018 9:56 AM
Not stupid enough for jackass
9:58 AM
"Hi, I'm Sonic the Hedgehog and I'm going to take a shotgun blast to the face"
Δndrew P. 7/6/2018 10:21 AM
Welcome Park (a built-in PS Vita game) uses standard tars as archives, and you know whats in them? GZs, then whats inside the GZs? The actual file.
10:25 AM
Although the Hello Face minigame uses 2 .BPM files
GerbilSoft 7/6/2018 10:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHSWxxK6nA8
TheZZAZZGlitch
VBA 1.8.0, VBA-M 2.0.2 - Multiple vulnerabilities in ELF file parser
10:53 AM
so many WTFs in this video
10:53 AM
1. the fact that VBA supports loading an ELF file to begin with
10:53 AM
2. use of sprintf() on a static buffer
Δndrew P. 7/6/2018 10:58 AM
The only time I used .ELFs in VBA is just to try out a few ELFs that were provided in that AGB SDK.
GerbilSoft 7/6/2018 11:13 AM
for #2, they fixed it by increasing the size of the buffer
11:13 AM
not by using snprintf
11:13 AM
-_-
Rena 7/6/2018 12:47 PM
So it's not fixed at all
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/6/2018 2:22 PM
>VBA
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 2:23 PM
i mean, it's exposing flaws with VBA
Netscape Navigator 7/6/2018 3:03 PM
not even a cool emulator flaw like floating point rounding modes that let you beat mario 64 in 3 days with no A presses
Hugette Hikari 7/6/2018 3:04 PM
nope, just bad exploits for a shitty emulator
chlœrawr ♀ 7/6/2018 3:08 PM
@GerbilSoft They could just use readAllBytes() or whatever similar function C/C++/w/e VBA-M's written in has
3:08 PM
That would automatically adjust the buffer size and prevent this exploit from occurring once and for all.
chlœrawr ♀ 7/6/2018 3:24 PM
Actually, taking a look at the code, it looks like they've just implemented a frickton of checks.
Ketsuban 7/6/2018 4:20 PM
Loading an ELF file is useful for homebrew development because the debug information is right there in the file, rather than needing to strip it out and then reassociate them again in gdb. (edited)
Cuyler 7/6/2018 7:17 PM
Made a video showing off ACE for AC on console by enabling zurumode 2 (game disc id needs to be set to 0x99, can usually only be enabled on console by an AR code, as the cheat code only gives you zurumode 1): https://youtu.be/Z4t2cfUtzfY (Garbage recording quality warning)
Cuyler
Animal Crossing Zurumode 2 via NES ACE
punk7890 7/6/2018 7:30 PM
Deleted User 7/6/2018 7:31 PM
Nex 7/6/2018 7:31 PM
punk7890 7/6/2018 7:33 PM
7:35 PM
better
7:35 PM
wait
7:35 PM
I see unused things (edited)
7:40 PM
test map
Nex 7/6/2018 7:45 PM
neat stuff
Zerovii 7/6/2018 8:38 PM
@divingkxt wrt AC4:BF easter egg, its in sounddata\sounds_eng.pck > sounds_eng_6014
divingkxt 7/6/2018 9:25 PM
Sweet
9:25 PM
Gonna add it to the wiki soon?
9:26 PM
I made a vow to myself to not make a single edit more (possibly including talk page edits) until at least 5 people beat my score of 32,768.
DarthDubඞ 7/6/2018 9:27 PM
you deserve a break anyways
divingkxt 7/6/2018 9:30 PM
Yeah, that and I am also busier than before.
9:30 PM
https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2018/07/06/dolphin-progress-report-june-2018/
Dolphin Emulator
9:30 PM
In the sense I'm now taking on all sorts of responsibility personally. (edited)
9:32 PM
Not like I wasn't before, just that it's gotten more intense.
Zerovii 7/6/2018 10:07 PM
ah fair enough, but I never edited the wiki to make an article before, just minor typo fixes
10:08 PM
I was gonna put some work into the LISA: the painful article so I guess now is a good time to learn
10:08 PM
how should I phrase how to find it? just say when extracting sounds from the pck file there will be one of x:xx length and that's the one?
divingkxt 7/6/2018 10:09 PM
Note the file the sound byte is in.
10:09 PM
And the pck file to extract it from. (edited)
eientei 7/7/2018 2:15 AM
[15:06:57] <derek2> gals panic s3 (japan) has english sfx & voices in the sound test, is there any way to enable this in the game instead of the japanese voices?
2:15 AM
From the MAME channel
FMecha 7/7/2018 2:19 AM
I remember Slipstream (Capcom's System 32 racing game) also had English and Japanese menu texts
cuba200611 7/7/2018 2:42 AM
Slipstream - a racing game by Capcom (on Sega System 32 hardware) which only came out in South America - that is odd... (edited)
punk7890 7/7/2018 6:32 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1015543282120577025
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found several debug displays and a test map in Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven (PS2) https://t.co/nyfGMa4K6b The debug displays render various engine statistics and will also display collision boxes. The test map contains various untextured buildings.
3
6:32 AM
3
Neko May 7/7/2018 7:37 AM
We need a custom emoji that's a bug with an X over it.
eientei 7/7/2018 7:39 AM
@Neko May No, we need /the/ bug, for it is de bug
Neko May 7/7/2018 7:42 AM
I'm going to stick with my idea
7:42 AM
lol
eientei 7/7/2018 8:03 AM
:P
Hiccup 7/7/2018 8:39 AM
Is the OOT footage at 06:27 of this video final? https://archive.org/details/youtube-Ha0yJXInbYM
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:47 AM
@Hiccup Great find! It looks near-final. At 7:24, there is an unused object in the background that rises-and-falls quickly.
8:50 AM
Wait, I lied, that object is a guillotine from the Shadow Temple. It was difficult to tell what it was at first due to video quality.
8:51 AM
The footage seems final, but the video displays concept art which is neat.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/7/2018 8:51 AM
Hiccup 7/7/2018 9:21 AM
Its a presentation on Mario Galaxy. I'm just not very familiar with OOT on the N64 (I've only played OOT3D).
9:21 AM
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 9:33 AM
looks like a retail N64 JP build
9:33 AM
maybe running on Wii VC?
Hiccup 7/7/2018 11:12 AM
http://blog.beforemario.com/2017/10/nintendo-company-report-1993.html
Nintendo Company Report 1993
In the days before the World Wide Web allowed companies to easily disseminate information, the main way to share company details was through...
11:12 AM
Are any of the screenshots featured in the above pre-final?
Zerovii 7/7/2018 11:25 AM
That smk pic looks odd
11:25 AM
I miss for frogs the bell tolls
rareblin 7/7/2018 12:26 PM
idk where to put this because theres no "sonic mania glitches" discord server i found out how to recreate that low gravity glitch from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuZL7TQE4hU
CodeNameMario
Destroying Sonic Mania's Physics
Timo 7/7/2018 12:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n2iQcNlr9w Shesez discovered a testmap in the Pinstripe Bossfight. If that is not already mentioned
Shesez
Out of Bounds Discoveries | Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy - Boun...
GerbilSoft 7/7/2018 2:16 PM
2:16 PM
Huks 7/7/2018 2:17 PM
Wow I can't believe Yoshi had a game on the 2600
divingkxt 7/7/2018 2:19 PM
@GerbilSoft Not on TCRF either.
GerbilSoft 7/7/2018 2:20 PM
It's apparently a known game and the ROM is available
2:20 PM
Just that no one cares because it was one of the shitty games released during the video game crash
divingkxt 7/7/2018 2:21 PM
And there was a flood of crappy games.
2:21 PM
1982
2:21 PM
So right before the crash.
2:21 PM
But yeah, the premise...
Zerovii 7/7/2018 2:29 PM
Hmm
CELL Broadband Engine 2006 7/7/2018 4:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwgJTQZb3C0
igorseabra4
SpongeBob SquarePants: BFBB - Unused Bubble Buddy in Spongebob's Dream
Deleted User 7/7/2018 4:24 PM
did you hear about the sonic hack with the blood / gore ? _ ? .
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 4:24 PM
Sonic.EXE?
Deleted User 7/7/2018 4:25 PM
no , sonic fan edition .
4:25 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/8woo0l/warning_the_sonic_1_romhack_sonic_fan_edition/
r/SonicTheHedgehog - WARNING: the Sonic 1 Romhack "Sonic Fan Editi...
82 votes and 79 so far on reddit
Huks 7/7/2018 4:28 PM
What the fuck
Deleted User 7/7/2018 4:28 PM
mhm ,
4:28 PM
for the love of the lord helix fossil .
4:28 PM
DO NOT PLAY THE GAME .
4:28 PM
U HAVE BEEN WARNED .
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 4:29 PM
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 4:30 PM
I'm sorry but what?
Deleted User 7/7/2018 4:30 PM
4:31 PM
there was a gory image + ear-rape scream if u do the level select then hard re-set . (edited)
Huks 7/7/2018 4:33 PM
Jesus Christ
4:33 PM
Why would anyone do such a thing
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 4:33 PM
i just wanna see the gory image
4:33 PM
people keep hyping it up in the comments and dont wanna post it
4:33 PM
like at that point stop teasing and dont flat out mention it
Netscape Navigator 7/7/2018 4:34 PM
yeah lol reddit is really bad at explaining stuff
4:39 PM
still, classic dumb shock site stuff that
4:40 PM
you don't see that much now or maybe i just don't look in really stupid places anymore
Zerovii 7/7/2018 4:41 PM
Usually see worse at the movies nowadays
Deleted User 7/7/2018 4:57 PM
pm me for the rom , if u wish .
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 5:05 PM
5:05 PM
this should be the code but i cant seem to get it to work
divingkxt 7/7/2018 5:33 PM
FFFFD0:0100
5:34 PM
Also, pls don't post here.
5:34 PM
PM it to those asking.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 5:34 PM
bizhawk cant take PAR codes
5:34 PM
does that do something different to the game genie code
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:35 PM
what is this, trying to take the place of sonic gather battle?
divingkxt 7/7/2018 5:35 PM
Changes 00FFD0 to 0001.
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:36 PM
who even cares if you use level select in a romhack
5:37 PM
at least sonic gather battle had an "excuse" for its dick move, as stupid as it was, "they're gonna steal my stolen sprites!!!!!"
Zerovii 7/7/2018 5:38 PM
ppltoast if you get it pm me it Im curious what it is since I cant find it on google anywhere
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 5:39 PM
will do...
5:39 PM
5:39 PM
gold
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:39 PM
controlleronahanger 7/7/2018 5:40 PM
Zerovii 7/7/2018 5:41 PM
Nex 7/7/2018 5:41 PM
rip jue
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:41 PM
should be hue instead
5:41 PM
they probably would find it funny
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 5:44 PM
well i edited FFD0 in the rom to 0001 but still nothing
5:44 PM
man how can it be this hard
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:44 PM
still waiting on the tutorial from OP in that reddit post
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 5:44 PM
he did post it but i think it got deleted
5:44 PM
would need to dm
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:45 PM
c'mon... he didn't even post the picture, just told curious people how to do it
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 5:45 PM
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:45 PM
yeah i guess that's fair enough, some people are too curious for their own good
leilei 7/7/2018 5:46 PM
thank goodness tcrf doesn't document crappy fan games/hacks
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:46 PM
i feel like they've done it for at least one fangame
5:46 PM
crappy or otherwise
Zerovii 7/7/2018 5:47 PM
I feel like a pictureof a gory image at cruddy genesis resolutions (no offense) cant be worse than some of the horror shit Ive been introduced to lol
leilei 7/7/2018 5:47 PM
movie horror gore is fine because no one is hurt and is morally okay. don't compare the two to justify shock gore crap (edited)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 5:47 PM
320 x 224 is quite cool to work with tho
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:47 PM
well, they do say it's darkweb type stuff
Zerovii 7/7/2018 5:47 PM
ah
5:47 PM
sorry
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:47 PM
might just be exaggeration
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 5:47 PM
flygon would know
Zerovii 7/7/2018 5:48 PM
I thought it may just be more fake gore stuff and not actual snuff
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:48 PM
until somebody here actually sees it i don't think we can know for sure
leilei 7/7/2018 5:48 PM
320 is enough resolution to go around
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 5:48 PM
someone said it's fake, someone said it's "fanart", OP said it's darkweb stuff
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:00 PM
TBH, I considered using Misc Data Digs for all the things TCRF doesn't allow.
6:00 PM
Then I realized that would include the shock/gore stuff.
6:01 PM
That's still not allowed there yet, at least not until I can lock off the article to only those willing to pay.
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:09 PM
@FFD0 to 0100
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:12 PM
6:12 PM
still nothing
6:12 PM
theres gotta be something specific in these instructions we dont have
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:12 PM
RAM Adress FFD0.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:13 PM
is that somehow different from 00FFD0
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:14 PM
No.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:16 PM
https://www.removeddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/8woo0l/warning_the_sonic_1_romhack_sonic_fan_edition/
6:23 PM
6:23 PM
guess bizhawks just fucked somehow
6:23 PM
oh well
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:24 PM
of course it's russian
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:24 PM
and ye the pictures a drawing
6:24 PM
pretty damn nice looking
6:25 PM
not that im into gore or anything....
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:25 PM
if it was made specifically for the game, just for this one thing
6:25 PM
wasted talent
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:25 PM
>Just checked it out and have found the original artwork. It's an artwork done by AyaSwan, and the character shown in the image is supposed to be Mei from Overwatch.
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:25 PM
what
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:25 PM
тікай з городу! = Run away from the city!
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:26 PM
wouldn't that be a pleasant surprise to most overwatch players
6:26 PM
they want to kill mei anyway
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:26 PM
dont even dare googling that guys name
6:26 PM
christ
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 6:26 PM
Wasn't planning on it
leilei 7/7/2018 6:26 PM
shit now i'm reminded of that gory fetish chun-li fan artist from a decade ago (edited)
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:27 PM
is that russian text just supposed to be "escape from the city" then
6:27 PM
that's the only relation to sonic i can think of
6:28 PM
i'm sure it was chosen because "ooh scary Russian words HET" but still
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:28 PM
Ukrainian.
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:28 PM
^
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:28 PM
either way
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:28 PM
Russian abandoned <Ii> in the 1917 orthography reform (edited)
leilei 7/7/2018 6:29 PM
to an edgelord, either are "scary russian words"
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:29 PM
exactly
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:29 PM
Meanwhile, removeddit won't load for me in Firefox -_-
leilei 7/7/2018 6:30 PM
blessing in disguise
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:30 PM
do you have cookies enabled
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:30 PM
@leilei ?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:30 PM
again i doubt it was chosen because of any actual reason besides to be in the style of the infamous giivasunner rip and those weird genesis bootlegs that use stolen fanart
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:30 PM
Russian would be побег с городу
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:30 PM
`[7/7/2018, 6:23:13 PM] ppltoast: guess bizhawks just fucked somehow` What happened? (aside from Bizhawk being made :v)
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:31 PM
i had to use fusion to see it
6:31 PM
i may just be poking the wrong address on bizhawk
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:31 PM
Ah
6:31 PM
I thought you meant the bigger sense of “fucked”
6:32 PM
Meanwhile, the whole debacle rather reminds me of Sonic Gather Battle
6:32 PM
People get way too protective over this sort of thing
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:33 PM
that's what i thought of as well
leilei 7/7/2018 6:33 PM
think of the children
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:33 PM
this isn't even for the sake of being protective
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:33 PM
(also I can't not misread your username as leliel)
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:33 PM
it's just "fuck you hacker bitch I'll break your legs" edgelord style thing
6:33 PM
it's a level select code
6:34 PM
calm down
leilei 7/7/2018 6:34 PM
like it or not, sonic's fanbase does have a load of kids
6:34 PM
it's just more of being considerate
6:34 PM
than SENSOR SHEEP!!! FROZEN PEACHES etc
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:35 PM
these devs have no sense of being considerate
Rena 7/7/2018 6:35 PM
What is it about Sonic
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:36 PM
the only way to play the game is their way
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:39 PM
@Rena The first three Sonic games are among the most hacked games ever.
6:40 PM
Heck, all three of them have been thoroughly disassembled and anyone can do a reasonably good hack with a bit of ASM knowledge, some fan tools, and patience.
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:41 PM
i think they meant "what is it about sonic that attracts things like this"
6:41 PM
between this and gather battle
leilei 7/7/2018 6:41 PM
.exe creepypastas
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:41 PM
not even for the sake of anti piracy
6:42 PM
but just to spite cheaters/hackers
Netscape Navigator 7/7/2018 6:42 PM
hack detection (edited)
6:42 PM
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:42 PM
hack protection of their hack
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:42 PM
Because they know kids aren't particularly bright.
6:42 PM
And do it for trolling or giggling.
6:43 PM
They know most kids will recognize Sonic and there are indeed plenty of young lurkers in the Sonic scene.
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:43 PM
Blargh, I can't remember where "Hack Detection" came from (edited)
Netscape Navigator 7/7/2018 6:43 PM
sonic 2 hd
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:43 PM
Sonic 2's HD fan remake demo.
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 6:44 PM
What'd that do?
Netscape Navigator 7/7/2018 6:44 PM
it just blocked the game from running if you tried to edit anything
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:44 PM
Sonic Retro even has an easter egg related to this.
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:45 PM
>After some careful examination by forum member Guess_Who, the “keylogger” was confirmed to be benign and a false positive, revealing that it was a result of shoddy DirectInput programming. This is how the program was able to register key presses even when the window was not selected and running in the background.
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:45 PM
why are people so furiously protective of things they don't even own
6:45 PM
especially the gather battle guy
leilei 7/7/2018 6:46 PM
spriters-resource kind of fostered that behavior for years iirc
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:47 PM
"Do not distribute without crediting or permission" etc in every sprite sheet
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 6:47 PM
I mean... if it's original sprites, I get that, but for ones literally just ripped from a released game?
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:48 PM
Shouldn't have allowed sprites from canon sources, IMO
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:48 PM
from what i recall nothing in gather battle was actually original when it came to sprites
6:48 PM
besides possibly some of the hack protection ones
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 6:48 PM
Like, how would someone even tell if the sprites in question were ripped by one person over another in terms of released games?
6:48 PM
Obviously if it's an original work, that's different
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:49 PM
because people used to put "Ripped by: X" on their sprite sheets
6:49 PM
that's about it
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 6:50 PM
So if you just take the sprites themselves, you could never tell...
6:50 PM
Which makes me wonder what the point is
Rena 7/7/2018 6:50 PM
Don't use this shitty JPEG sprite sheet that uses a background color which is also used by the sprites themselves without credit
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:51 PM
internet cred from people who don't know any better and actually credit them, maybe, possibly also because they saw everyone else do it and did it as well
leilei 7/7/2018 6:52 PM
yeah i'd like to see a court prosecution over stolen sprites from the ripper than the company that owns said creative work (edited)
divingkxt 7/7/2018 6:52 PM
If they really wanted to prevent the spreading, they would have put galoshes on the sprites.
Rena 7/7/2018 6:52 PM
Like if I'm using the sprites in some project and you took the time to rip them and I happened to use your rip, that's worth a mention in the credits
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:52 PM
man i remember when sprite sheets were just solid colors and you had to manually make the backgrounds transparent
6:52 PM
i hated doing that
leilei 7/7/2018 6:52 PM
i think the same applies to ripped models on the models resource
6:53 PM
one can just pop whatever in noesis, out an obj (complete with noesis' uv flip bug) and unleash it as their own hard work, knowingly violating Noesis' usage terms, therefore not mentioning its use (edited)
Rena 7/7/2018 6:53 PM
Black background for sprites with black borders
leilei 7/7/2018 6:53 PM
unknowingly supplying models for asset flippers
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 6:53 PM
i think the same also applied to some fan comics using ripped sprites
6:53 PM
"DON'T POST THIS ANYWHERE BESIDES list of websites"
Rena 7/7/2018 6:53 PM
I just wish more model rips were rigged
leilei 7/7/2018 6:55 PM
pfft that'd take effort
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 6:55 PM
gamefaqs like "dont host this .txt file anywhere but gamefaqs"
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:56 PM
What's Noesis?
leilei 7/7/2018 6:57 PM
3d model viewing/conversion program
6:57 PM
i mainly use it to convert my own work to another format
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 6:57 PM
Ah
leilei 7/7/2018 6:57 PM
since it's the only MDR exporter around that's not called Milkshit3d
6:58 PM
the development's mostly halted after discovering it's being abused for model ripping sites
6:59 PM
because fuck opening models for personal studying
Rena 7/7/2018 7:00 PM
3D model formats do seem to be a world of fuck
leilei 7/7/2018 7:09 PM
i used to be bugged about releasing my very-much-from-scratch fan models on models-resource (edited)
7:10 PM
what would be the point, it'd be buried in a sea of mass rips
7:10 PM
and be clumsily imported into brawl, gmod or roblox with further credit displacement (edited)
7:11 PM
or worse. a steam game
7:12 PM
i've already endured death threats over not giving my art files
divingkxt 7/7/2018 7:12 PM
I mean, considering the endless slew of sprite comics in the 2000s
7:12 PM
and the endless stream of Source Filmmaker shit today,
Rena 7/7/2018 7:13 PM
See and then someone like me comes along and asks "cool model, is it available to download?" and people interpret that as demanding
7:13 PM
Because they're used to everyone demanding
divingkxt 7/7/2018 7:17 PM
plus the effort required to rip stuff, I'm glad I didn't make whole spritesheets of stuff.
leilei 7/7/2018 7:19 PM
you wouldn't want to be in my shoes when you're the only one modeling all the darkstalkers just before mvc3 hype featured a few of them
Zerovii 7/7/2018 7:22 PM
oof
leilei 7/7/2018 7:24 PM
if i make 3d fan art of game characters again it'll have to be relatively obscure ones as that's far more comfortable, regarding demand, fan baggage and stress (edited)
ErnestoAM 7/7/2018 7:25 PM
Panel de Pon Lip
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:25 PM
LOL
Zerovii 7/7/2018 7:26 PM
hd threads of fate character models
7:26 PM
because Im like one of 9 people who actually cares about that game anymore
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:26 PM
i know somebody from the misadventures of tron bonne that has like 3 pieces of fanart total
7:27 PM
or literally anybody from fighter's destiny on the n64
7:28 PM
the price to pay for loving obscure n64/playstation games
leilei 7/7/2018 7:29 PM
7:30 PM
i think the last obscure game character i tried to model was nirvana
7:30 PM
the mahou daisakusen series barely gets fan art lol
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:32 PM
Ooh, I like the dragon guy in that one
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:32 PM
nobody likes obscure early 3d games, it's not fair
Zerovii 7/7/2018 7:32 PM
tfw that game left off on a sequel hook and it never arrived
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:32 PM
unless it's a franchise that lasted into the 2000s
7:35 PM
also timestalkers/climax landers on the dreamcast
Neko May 7/7/2018 7:36 PM
Just find R34 artists and tell them "Hey, no porn of this exists yet"
7:36 PM
lol
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:36 PM
I've tried
Neko May 7/7/2018 7:37 PM
Wow. I guess Rule 34 is broken.
Zerovii 7/7/2018 7:37 PM
it only says it would exist, not that it would be quality
7:38 PM
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:38 PM
i mean, part of my goal is to get r34 of these things
7:38 PM
but i want sfw fanart too
Neko May 7/7/2018 7:38 PM
Of course
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:41 PM
I can think of so many anthro characters from obscure video games without fan art and it saddens me
leilei 7/7/2018 7:42 PM
thatll always change once a popular strimmertuber comes across it (edited)
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:42 PM
Well, lemme know if anyone wants to stream Albert Odyssey on the Saturn or Time Stalkers on Dreamcast then :V
Neko May 7/7/2018 7:43 PM
Heck, just think of all the Pokemon that don't have fan art
7:43 PM
I'm sure at least half have none at all
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 7:43 PM
They all do
Nex 7/7/2018 7:44 PM
something thats not r34? I'm in the wrong universe then
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:44 PM
there's nothing
7:44 PM
also i didn't know early screenshots existed of this game
7:44 PM
another treasure to hope somebody digs up
leilei 7/7/2018 7:44 PM
thats a cool design
7:44 PM
despite the obvious lack of the knees
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 7:45 PM
And the weird color scheme
leilei 7/7/2018 7:45 PM
i think the stick just sticks out
Neko May 7/7/2018 7:45 PM
How about even older games, or non-3D games with no fanart
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:45 PM
also what's funny is that I'm pretty sure people actually played shining in the darkness
7:45 PM
yet there's no good r34 of her
leilei 7/7/2018 7:46 PM
...
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:46 PM
I was thinking more Rao
7:46 PM
That cool lion guy
7:46 PM
He cute
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:46 PM
even rao
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:46 PM
Also where'd you find those screenshots Hugo?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:46 PM
there's nothing
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:46 PM
I've never seen those before
leilei 7/7/2018 7:46 PM
<------ this character doesn't have fan art at all. and google image search can't even bring high quality versions of the official art
7:46 PM
doesn't even have a name either
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:46 PM
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:47 PM
That's Pyra from Shining in the Darkness
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:47 PM
yes, her time stalkers art
leilei 7/7/2018 7:47 PM
ok that's better colors
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:47 PM
7:47 PM
comparison to lady from ladystalker
7:47 PM
all the human characters have this weird facial thing going on
leilei 7/7/2018 7:48 PM
what a fine tifa recolor
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 7:48 PM
What game is that?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:48 PM
official artwork from timestalkers/climax landers on the dreamcast
7:48 PM
an extremely obscure roguelike RPG that's a crossover between climax entertainment's other titles
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 7:48 PM
Oki
7:49 PM
May as well make some fanart for them in the future XD
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:49 PM
Got a link to that website Hugo?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:49 PM
hang on
7:50 PM
https://www.giantbomb.com/time-stalkers/3030-3784/images/
Time Stalkers screenshots, images and pictures - Giant Bomb
Known in Japan as Climax Landers. Its an RPG game where there are worlds within worlds in which you can travel. The main character Sword who comes from another world. You collect new characters you can play as you journey through the worlds.
7:50 PM
it seems that dungeons were supposed to be third person like the overworld instead of an overhead view
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:50 PM
Huh
7:51 PM
It's been years since I played the game, but weren't there alternate camera angles?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:51 PM
I'm not sure
DarthDubඞ 7/7/2018 7:51 PM
i've always wanted to play it
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:51 PM
It's super short but it's pretty good
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:51 PM
It is!
7:52 PM
Easily the best near-launch RPG
7:52 PM
Far better than Evolution
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:52 PM
i always wanted to make a prequel to it, because there's a lot of things that aren't built upon for the game's original characters besides a passing mention
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 7:52 PM
Is there an english version?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:52 PM
there is
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:52 PM
Yup!
7:52 PM
It was called Time Stalkers in the US and PAL reigons
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 7:52 PM
Cool
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:53 PM
Last I checked, it's pretty cheap too
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 7:53 PM
Is the ROM available to download? (edited)
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:53 PM
yes
leilei 7/7/2018 7:53 PM
it would be a gdi by that point
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 7:53 PM
gdi?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:53 PM
it emulates really well
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:54 PM
Is Climax even around anymore...?
7:54 PM
I know they released, like, one DS game
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:54 PM
I don't think they've made a game in years
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:54 PM
And I honestly can't think of anything they've done past that
7:55 PM
Yeah, that sucks
leilei 7/7/2018 7:55 PM
i thought climax released a ton
7:55 PM
unless this is a different climax
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:56 PM
climax and climax entertainment are different
7:56 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climax_Entertainment
Climax Entertainment
Climax Entertainment (株式会社クライマックス Kabushiki Gaisha Kuraimakkusu) was a Japanese video game development company. It was a small company, with just 20 staff in 1996. Climax got its start during the 16-bit era, primarily developing games for the Sega Genesi...
leilei 7/7/2018 7:56 PM
yeah
7:56 PM
reminds me of the two monoliths
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:57 PM
There's two video game developers named Climax Neko
7:57 PM
There's the one we're talking about, from Japan, and there's a US one in Texas
leilei 7/7/2018 7:57 PM
you could say they all reached their climax 11 years ago
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blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:57 PM
Totally seperate companies
7:58 PM
The US Climax made a bunch of Silent Hill games for Konami and some other liscenced games as well
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 7:58 PM
7:58 PM
you know your game is obscure when even all the animal characters have no art
7:58 PM
e621 doesn't even have a tag for it
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/7/2018 7:59 PM
Sad
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 7:59 PM
even though there should be (edited)
leilei 7/7/2018 7:59 PM
i'm still surprised nirvana has none
7:59 PM
i would think the giantess baggage from being a "huge fairy" would at least warrant one silly "sexy" size difference picture (edited)
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:00 PM
quickly, somebody become famous and show off all this obscure stuff to the general public
leilei 7/7/2018 8:00 PM
but nope
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:00 PM
Oh man, is that Climax Lander?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:00 PM
that is
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:01 PM
i almost never hear it mentioned
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:01 PM
before today I've never known anybody who's even heard of the game
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:01 PM
glad to see that it's known a little, at least
8:01 PM
it was one of my favorites for Dreamcast
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:01 PM
i got it from my cousin along with his dreamcast so i grew up playing it
leilei 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
hell, even stella from astra superstars barely gets any
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
The story kind of pissed me off near the end, but all the side characters and their plots were super interesting to me
leilei 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
and that game's relatively more known
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
that's also how i know of shining in the darkness, because another cousin had it
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
I forgot I was gonna get my dreamcast working to play evolution
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
I want this guy to have more fan-art
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
I wish this game had more fan art, period
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
I still need a new PSU for my Dreamcast, but broke
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
the thing i hate about timestalkers is how unclear the intro is about everything
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:02 PM
What, Albert Odyssey? (edited)
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:03 PM
I forget whats wrong with mine its just open rn
8:03 PM
somethings messed with the gdrom
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:03 PM
Yeah, the intro to Time Stalkers is like "hey, here's Sword, he fights a knight, there's a girl, he enters a tower, something something"
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:03 PM
who is sword, what does he do, why is he cursed, who is that woman, what did the guy with the axe do, why is sword a vampire and why is this only revealed in an optional dream sequence
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:03 PM
RIGHT?!
8:03 PM
Seriously, everything about Sword is so friggin' obtuse
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:04 PM
Yeah, Grizz. Albert Odyssey was a good game, too
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:04 PM
o/
8:04 PM
Albert Odyssey is one of those games I'd really love to see get a good TCRF article
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:04 PM
this is why i desperately want to make a prequel game about sword, to fill in the blanks myself
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:04 PM
There's so much about that game that screams "we had to rush this out the door"
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:05 PM
Yeah, gotta agree that the story for Time Stalker/Climax Lander was pretty nonsensical
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:05 PM
Like, the game started out on the SNES, then was moved up, and there's a lot of weird stuff that's really mysterious
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:05 PM
i'd like to know more as well, it's really interesting
leilei 7/7/2018 8:05 PM
i still need to finish this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/227170552257708032/434965900307857418/stellAAAAAAAA.jpg
Nex 7/7/2018 8:05 PM
if you guys mean the climax from UK; they now make VR games
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:05 PM
Like that one giant pile of snow near the airfish town that has it's own battle background used nowhere else in the game
leilei 7/7/2018 8:05 PM
i stopped at the arms as i screwed those up and deleted them
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
it's so criminally short and undeveloped in every aspect, but the fact that there's so many subplots for the NPCs and every character has their own ending is a nice touch
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
Or how there's a bunch of parts of the world map that are just never used and super empty
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
@Nex, nope, the Japanese Climax
Nex 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
ah ok
8:06 PM
nvm then
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
Like, there's this one island with a lake, and a dock leading into the lake, and there's NOTHING THERE
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
Yeah. This company kinda disappeared
Nex 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
damn
leilei 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
i wonder how much demand the japanese monolith gets for a new blood sequel
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
IKR? there are a ton of weird things in the game like that
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:06 PM
time stalkers was essentially their magnum opus and then they just kinda died down afterwards
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:07 PM
that's about right, yeah
Nex 7/7/2018 8:07 PM
pretty sure I read on Assemblergames once that climax closes down or something
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:07 PM
And the game is easily one of the prettiest 2D RPGs I've ever played, hands down
Nex 7/7/2018 8:07 PM
the japanese one that is
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:07 PM
The soundtrack is SUBLIME and the graphics are plain goregous, some of the best pixel art in a game I've seen
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:07 PM
agreed, @blueskyrunner
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:07 PM
i need to check out albert odyssey now
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
Have you see the pictures of the SNES version, Zen?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
i thrive on obscure RPGs
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
I wish DC emulation on OS X didn't suck
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
it's a really unique game. i'd recommend it
Nex 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
@Deleted User https://assemblergames.com/threads/climax-entertaiment-has-been-closed-and-appearently-no-one-did-know-that.64820/
Climax Entertaiment has been closed (and appearently no one did kn...
I was wondering if the Landstalker and Runabout developer, Climax Entertaiment, was still open, and while I do recall visiting their site last year, it...
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
(and/or OpenEmu both supported PS2 and wasn't anal about BIN+CUE)
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
yeah no wonder why they haven't done anything in like a decade then
leilei 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
fix your cues
Nex 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
they ded
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:08 PM
@Nex yeah, remember reading something about that a while back
8:08 PM
it's sad
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:09 PM
8:09 PM
Nex 7/7/2018 8:09 PM
so yeah, won't releasing anything because they closed quietly
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:09 PM
8:09 PM
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:09 PM
pretty much
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:09 PM
after time stalkers, which was a crossover game between 4 of their RPG games, they just stopped doing original things and mainly only did licensed crap
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:10 PM
I would kill to see a proto of the SNES version of Albert Odyssey get online, assuming these aren't just mock-ups
8:10 PM
Though considering the screens shows clones of Pike and Eka, I'd assume they're real
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:10 PM
even the name "climax landers" sounds like it was gonna be the end for them
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:10 PM
Because if it's a mock-up, why wouldn't you just use the sprites of the other characters
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:10 PM
@blueskyrunner, it probably is in fact real.
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:10 PM
Using obvious placeholders only makes sense if it's an actual proto
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:10 PM
there's a good chance it is, agreed
8:11 PM
@Hugette Hikari, with you on that one, Climax Landers does sound like, well, the climax. Sad they went under
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:11 PM
Interestingly, the official print ad I posted has a battle screen with the proper sprites, but the ones from gaming magazine have character clones
8:11 PM
So it must've been shown off somewhere
8:12 PM
I should really play Time Stalkers again
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:12 PM
i'm gonna remake the shit out of that game, or at least inspire somebody else to, it needs some love and fixing
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:12 PM
Huh. That's neat...that's a prototype I'd love to see.
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:12 PM
I loved cheating the system to get infinite money
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:12 PM
It needs so much love
8:12 PM
That and Albert Odyssey, they both need love
8:12 PM
...and a replay from me!
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:12 PM
You could download a game onto your VMU, put ALL OF YOUR GOLD into it, then simply reset the game without saving and load all your gold back into the file
8:12 PM
Thus doubling it
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:13 PM
Ah, that's awesome.
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:13 PM
thank you
8:13 PM
i needed a way to get money besides selling junk
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:13 PM
Well, there you go
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:13 PM
I'll try that out when i replay it
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:13 PM
It's such an easy exploit I'm surprised they missed it
8:13 PM
Their loss is our gain, ha ha
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:14 PM
Speaking of dead franchises,,
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:14 PM
(except for when the game is rushed and only like 4 hours long)
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:14 PM
I really, really want a new installment of Rune Factory or Golden Sun.
leilei 7/7/2018 8:14 PM
doing 3d models of stuff that's only ever been low res sprites is also a bit difficult when it comes to assembling references
8:15 PM
when i tried to stella I doodled a rough model sheet off the sprites https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/227170552257708032/434628300665520138/stlaa.jpg
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blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:15 PM
Golden Sun is such a flawed gem for me
leilei 7/7/2018 8:15 PM
the sprites have different proportions than the illustrations
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:15 PM
Great soundtrack, great puzzles, but damn, that story is just utter garbage
leilei 7/7/2018 8:15 PM
and those are hard to come by as they are
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:15 PM
I would love to take time out to make gs3 not garbage
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:15 PM
Yeah. I'm replaying it currently, and the story is just...confusing. Not the worst, though.
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:15 PM
that reminds me, because of the mention of sun
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:16 PM
Rune Factory, on the other hand...
leilei 7/7/2018 8:16 PM
when i was trying to model nirvana i was thinking of a 50/50 between ingame/art appearance
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:16 PM
i wish somebody would remake the boktai 3 compatibility in mega man battle network 6 (i think that's what it was, anyway)
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:16 PM
Blimey, I'd sell an eyeball for a Rune Factory 5... (edited)
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:16 PM
The story in Golden Sun is my biggest beef, it's just so pointless
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:16 PM
I feel like someone did that but probably not the proper way, just threw the crossover stuff ungated back in
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:16 PM
An excuse plot if I ever saw one
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:17 PM
so many projects i want to see achieved, and so little time and skill to do them myself
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:17 PM
God, big mood
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:17 PM
Agreed. The story was weak, but oddly enough I remember it being...worse?
8:17 PM
I dunno, maybe i've subjected myself to bad stories so much that it's lost its effect
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:18 PM
Maybe
8:18 PM
It's pretty terrible though
8:18 PM
I'm not sure if Beyond the Beyond is better or worse
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:18 PM
yeahhh, it's not great, that's for sure.
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:18 PM
I've never played golden sun, don't really have any desire to either, but I'll probably check it out someday
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:18 PM
Your best bet is to ignore the story and make up your own while you play
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:18 PM
hmmm....i'll have to replay BtB, can't recall it
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:18 PM
meanwhile Im just making things to help with psx disasm
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:19 PM
Because BtB was pretty shitty in the story department too
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:19 PM
that sounds like ff13-2's plot
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:19 PM
Dark Dawn was by far the worst, it had a nice cliffhanger, too!
8:19 PM
FF13 was utter garbage, period.
8:20 PM
Hated the main character, hated the setting, the story...
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:20 PM
Dark Dawn... oof
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:20 PM
I still want to buy FF13 just for the fact that it's so terrible
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:20 PM
maybe it's just me, or i'm too harsh with ff13.
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:20 PM
I agree with you on 13-1 but 2/3 did better at trying to salvage the game
8:20 PM
and were kinda fun to play and didnt railroad you the whole time
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:20 PM
only one RPG has ever infuriated me enough to quit the game forever
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:20 PM
The story starts, goes MASSIVELY off-road, and the game ends with the party failing in it's initial goal because they got sidetracked with an entirely different story
8:20 PM
What RPG, Hugo?
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:20 PM
and that would be yet another obscure game
8:21 PM
unlimited SaGa on the PS2
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:21 PM
oh man.
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:21 PM
Oh no
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:21 PM
aka the franchise killer
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:21 PM
SaGa
8:21 PM
oof
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:21 PM
poor SaGa, it fell so hard
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:21 PM
SaGa is a series I've always WANTED to like, but it's always been way too overwhelming for me
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:21 PM
i bought it at a garage sale and I've been trying to beat at least one story in it for years
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:21 PM
I hear Scarlet Grace is actually pretty good though, I hope the Switch and PS4 versions get localized
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:21 PM
but it's sooooo bad
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:22 PM
yikes.
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:22 PM
Agreed Hugo, it's... just terrible
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:22 PM
I don't think i've ever completely dropped a game
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:22 PM
Like, the SaGa series has always been known for going off the beaten path and trying new things, but they REALLY struck out with Unlimited
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:22 PM
ech, it really reached its limit, didn't it?
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:23 PM
It's too bad the Romancing SaGa remake also bombed, probably because of Unlimited, because that one was way better
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:23 PM
guess the name was false advertising, hah
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:23 PM
I think Unlimited came out first here, which may have turned people off from Romancing
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:23 PM
the last I heard of the series were the saga remakes on ds/3ds?
leilei 7/7/2018 8:23 PM
also i realized a lot of game characters i try to model either have pointy ears or pointy hats or both (edited)
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:23 PM
Scarlet Grace came out a few years back and it's getting a release on PS4 and Switch
8:23 PM
@Zerovii
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:23 PM
"unlimited saga gameplay" Google suggests "unlimited saga worst game ever"
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:23 PM
easy to make the points, @leilei?
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:24 PM
oh cool
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:24 PM
We DID get the remake of Romanacing SaGa 2 in English, so Scarlet Grace has a chance I feel
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:24 PM
octopath traveler looks like a good version of unlimited saga
8:24 PM
with the 8 stories and how they cross over
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:24 PM
I am SO PSYCHED for Octopath
8:24 PM
Next week can't come soon enough
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:24 PM
I was poking at the shining refrain demo
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:24 PM
me too, it looks great
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:24 PM
Shining Refrain looks pretty bad, honestly
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:25 PM
i don't have a switch yet, though, but i'll be sure to pick up Octopath once i get one
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:25 PM
I know it'll never happen, but I'd love to see another Shining game more akin to the older entries
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc2lzFRuqzE
yazarc
Unlimited SaGa: Gameplay
8:25 PM
here's the game for all of you uninformeds
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:25 PM
i wouldn't say 'bad', but... more 'generic'
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:25 PM
Either another strategy game or another dungeon crawler
leilei 7/7/2018 8:25 PM
modeling draco has once crossed my mind. theoretically she's easier to model than stella etc
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:25 PM
I adore Unlimited's soundtrack and visual style, but the gameplay kills it
night owl 7/7/2018 8:25 PM
hi
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:26 PM
if it wasn't for map traveling being literally monopoly and the stupid slot machine determining your commands
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:26 PM
It was
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:26 PM
maybe it would be decent
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:26 PM
kinda generic, but it played...ok
8:26 PM
felt like star ocean 4
8:26 PM
it was mediocre
8:26 PM
from the demo anyway
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:26 PM
also the LP system bothers me because I'm still not entirely sure how it works
8:27 PM
plus it's just an excuse to turn all enemies into damage sponges
leilei 7/7/2018 8:27 PM
when i model normal ears i usually have trouble getting the ear shape to blend in with the cranium
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:27 PM
LP is a thing in all SaGa games
leilei 7/7/2018 8:27 PM
pointy ears are way less of an issue especially when hair is involved to mask the blend (edited)
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:27 PM
It's basically your HP
8:27 PM
With HP being more like a barrier
8:28 PM
Basically: the more HP you have, the less likely you'll lose LP
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:28 PM
yeah my problem is that like every enemy has too much HP to protect their LP, plus they can sometimes break through to attack your LP anyway? i don't get it
8:28 PM
also FUCK random events and traps
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:29 PM
The other SaGa games are way better
8:29 PM
Unlimited is garbage, but thankfully all the issues you have with that aren't even in the other games
leilei 7/7/2018 8:29 PM
@Rust #games (edited)
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:30 PM
Actual control over your attacks, no random events or traps
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:30 PM
thank god
8:31 PM
like, traps are okay in a roguelike because that's part of the design, but don't make it part of your stupid board game, and don't make me roll a slot machine to escape
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:31 PM
Thankfully Unlimited was the only game to ever feature the Reel system
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:43 PM
i should probably play an actually good SaGa game then
8:43 PM
after i replay time stalkers
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:44 PM
Romancing SaGa 2 is on Switch, though it's pretty rough
leilei 7/7/2018 8:44 PM
speaking of switch isn't gunbird on switch
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:45 PM
The game's so difficult that there's actually an option to do New Game + at any time because you can literally get into unwinnable situations
8:45 PM
And yes, it is
leilei 7/7/2018 8:45 PM
did they alter the intro in switch gunbird
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:45 PM
gunbird 1 and 2
leilei 7/7/2018 8:45 PM
i'm wondering about that
8:45 PM
or the marion endings
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_gcSH39eDg
The EXP Grind
Gunbird for Nintendo Switch GAMEPLAY Part 2 Intro Demo - SHMUPS Wa...
!registerkey PPLTOasT 7/7/2018 8:46 PM
on the topic of weird rpgs
8:46 PM
copya system's lennus series
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:47 PM
never heard of it
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:47 PM
Paladin's Quest on the SNES
8:47 PM
It was called Lennus in Japan, and there's a sequel
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:47 PM
give me BoF dragon quarter on switch
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:47 PM
^^^^^^^^
8:47 PM
Hell, give me a new BoF game that isn't a shity mobile game period
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:48 PM
any game that does that circle arena-in world battle system wins my heart
leilei 7/7/2018 8:48 PM
holy shit, the switch version still has the wardrobe malfunction frames in the intro (edited)
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:48 PM
authentic
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:49 PM
8:49 PM
naice
8:49 PM
while not a weird rpg system, port skies of arcadia legends to pc and switch
8:49 PM
please sega
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 8:51 PM
PLEASE, this
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:51 PM
obscure games that need a translation:
8:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-rdojxLeVk
GalufBlackMage
Chocobo Tales 2 Gameplay (The Untranslated Sequel)
8:52 PM
i exploded with fury when i found out this game had a sequel the entire time, and it was japan exclusive
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:52 PM
I felt ripped off because I was really hoping chocobo tales would be another mystery dungeon spinoff
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:53 PM
I'm the exact opposite
8:53 PM
i expected chocobo's dungeon on the wii to be like this
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:54 PM
yeah it seems quaint
s0lo 7/7/2018 8:54 PM
make a warioware gold page
Zerovii 7/7/2018 8:54 PM
I was gonna say radiant historia but thats ported to 3ds
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:55 PM
for what, the demo?
s0lo 7/7/2018 8:55 PM
ye
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:55 PM
useless
8:55 PM
just wait for the main game to release.
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:55 PM
^
Deleted User 7/7/2018 8:56 PM
didn't see anything interesting on the surface, anyways.
8:56 PM
the demo only contains data used for the demo.
s0lo 7/7/2018 8:56 PM
https://tcrf.net/Baldi%27s_Basics_in_Education_and_Learning
Baldi%27s_Basics_in_Education_and_Learning
8:56 PM
who made this
8:56 PM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/7/2018 8:56 PM
Us
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:56 PM
somebody requested it
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/7/2018 8:56 PM
and cleaned up heavily
8:56 PM
just read changelog (edited)
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 8:57 PM
it's a game, and it has unused content, tcrf isn't really gonna not cover it
s0lo 7/7/2018 8:57 PM
this face was not the early bully face
8:57 PM
tho
leilei 7/7/2018 9:05 PM
leilei 7/7/2018 9:12 PM
gunbird is rated T for suggestive themes. TIL nipple slips are suggestive themes
9:12 PM
though it's more likely that htis just flew past them unnoticed (edited)
Zerovii 7/7/2018 9:13 PM
yeah more likely they didnt notice the pixels and said "yeah its fine"
leilei 7/7/2018 9:13 PM
it flew past me unntoiced until i was planning to make fan art of yuan nang and noticed suspicious pink pixels in the intro frames while gathering reference some months back (edited)
9:13 PM
which doesn't really surprise me because it is psikyo
9:13 PM
but lol
9:18 PM
marion's ending though that should be a lot more noticeable
9:18 PM
don't know if that's changed on switch
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 9:23 PM
idk what I'm looking for but none of the endings for her in gunbird 1 or 2 on switch look like anything that should be changed
9:24 PM
but i can't find a video of her alternate ending in gunbird 1
leilei 7/7/2018 9:24 PM
2's endings are all fine for the T rating
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 9:25 PM
https://youtu.be/R-Smg3l--UY?t=986
GUNBIRD For Nintendo Switch - Arcade - Marion
Nintendo Switch gameplay. First Person/Arcade Game. T - Teen. • GUNBIRD For Nintendo Switch. Enjoy the videos! • This channel showcases skillful gameplays & ...
9:25 PM
just this one ending is all i can find
blueskyrunner 7/7/2018 9:35 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ingress-anime-announced-coming-to-netflix.53949/
Ingress anime announced, coming to Netflix
[IMG] “Ingress,” the original mobile phone augmented reality game created by the team behind “Pokemon Go,” is getting its own animated series this...
9:35 PM
Well
9:35 PM
divingkxt 7/7/2018 9:39 PM
Awkward.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/7/2018 9:40 PM
looks good but awkward
leilei 7/7/2018 9:42 PM
my hero academic and wesker in tron world
Lako 7/7/2018 10:03 PM
Found this while looking through the files of U.B Funkeys.
Deleted User 7/7/2018 10:05 PM
Hiya
Lako 7/7/2018 10:05 PM
Hey. (edited)
Deleted User 7/7/2018 10:06 PM
Newbie here, is there anything else I should be aware of aside from the rules in the rules channel?
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 10:06 PM
Welcome. Here's your round-trip ticket to Proto Johto and everywhere else in the unreleased video game multiverse.
Lako 7/7/2018 10:07 PM
And released
Hâlian (ping in replies) 7/7/2018 10:07 PM
Indeed
Lako 7/7/2018 10:08 PM
Also I don't want to know what the CreepyPopup is
Deleted User 7/7/2018 10:08 PM
Sorry if I'm unaware on a few things, I found myself here from The Lost Media Wiki
AnkyloSource 7/7/2018 10:19 PM
honestly I've just followed the "don't be a dick" strategy and it's worked out pretty well here
10:19 PM
everyone is nice
10:20 PM
also thanks for letting me know about the lost media wiki. Added another link to my data preservation folder :^)
Wumbo 7/7/2018 11:04 PM
As you may have saw in #tools, I'm trying to assemble the Sonic X Leapster sprites from this
AnkyloSource 7/7/2018 11:04 PM
oof
Wumbo 7/7/2018 11:04 PM
Luckily, many of the tiles are ordered
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 11:08 PM
where's the chris thorndyke art from the "cutscenes"
11:08 PM
the most important part of the game
Wumbo 7/7/2018 11:09 PM
The cutscenes are SWF files
Hugette Hikari 7/7/2018 11:09 PM
dammit
Lako 7/7/2018 11:09 PM
They're easy to decompile
Wumbo 7/7/2018 11:10 PM
They're very easy to extract yet they have no sound
DarthDubඞ 7/7/2018 11:18 PM
seperate sound file?
punk7890 7/7/2018 11:19 PM
3
1
DarthDubඞ 7/7/2018 11:19 PM
oh btw punk i saw that tenchu wrath of heaven post
11:19 PM
i used to own that game
punk7890 7/7/2018 11:19 PM
nice
11:20 PM
I remember renting it a long time ago when renting was a thing
DarthDubඞ 7/7/2018 11:20 PM
don't kill the women or else you get a penalty
Lako 7/7/2018 11:25 PM
When you try to run a 800 x 600 game in 1366 768
punk7890 7/7/2018 11:26 PM
loading debug font picture in a debug menu
11:26 PM
magic
Δndrew P. 7/8/2018 1:07 AM
A lot of PS2 games seem to have that similar style of how debug menus look like dang
leilei 7/8/2018 1:39 AM
also common bitmap font charsets
1:40 AM
that font right there would line up with quake's conchars, for example
divingkxt 7/8/2018 2:39 AM
@punk7890 MSGothic Condensed
punk7890 7/8/2018 2:40 AM
I don't know my fonts
leilei 7/8/2018 3:30 AM
i love condensed fonts
Hiccup 7/8/2018 3:43 AM
@Cuyler Could this AC code loading via memory card be used to run homebrew, like the game exploits (https://www.gc-forever.com/wiki/index.php?title=Booting_Homebrew)? (edited)
Cuyler 7/8/2018 3:53 AM
yes
3:54 AM
it can't load swiss directly but it can read things off the memcard
3:54 AM
so presumably if you had swiss on the memory card already it could read it and write the dol in RAM then execute it
Cuyler 7/8/2018 4:57 AM
I've just released an update for the Animal Crossing NES Creator that allows the creation of patches! It also includes a test patch that will enable zurumode 2 (developer 'super' mode)! Get it here and try it out if you're interested: https://github.com/Cuyler36/ACNESCreator/releases/tag/v1.3 (edited)
Cuyler36/ACNESCreator
ACNESCreator - A program that creates Animal Crossing NES ROM save files for Animal Crossing to load
eientei 7/8/2018 4:58 AM
@Cuyler Have you experimented with FDS games?
Cuyler 7/8/2018 4:59 AM
They seem to work fine
4:59 AM
Although we haven't figured out saving fully yet, and your mileage may vary on what games load for you
eientei 7/8/2018 5:00 AM
"Work fine" in the .fds format or in the .qd format?
Cuyler 7/8/2018 5:00 AM
oh
5:00 AM
I'm not sure, they have to be formatted in the correct way
5:00 AM
if you have a file I can tell you if it'll work or not
eientei 7/8/2018 5:00 AM
What's the correct way
Cuyler 7/8/2018 5:00 AM
the iNES ROM format
eientei 7/8/2018 5:00 AM
Hm.
Cuyler 7/8/2018 5:00 AM
first four bytes in the file will be NES\0x1A
eientei 7/8/2018 5:02 AM
So, are you just doing a Yaz0 compression on standard iNES roms and they work fine?
Cuyler 7/8/2018 5:03 AM
I only compress the roms if the user requests it via the checkbox or if they're larger than the max supported file size (0xFFFF0 bytes)
5:03 AM
but yes
Deleted User 7/8/2018 5:58 AM
Lol nintendo
eientei 7/8/2018 6:01 AM
Odd that FDS roms work if an iNES header is attached as the ones in AC are .qd
punk7890 7/8/2018 6:01 AM
hi
eientei 7/8/2018 6:01 AM
hoi
Hiccup 7/8/2018 6:26 AM
@Incineroar Could I move your Trajectile subpage to mainspace?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:27 AM
@eientei hi eientei
6:28 AM
:p
eientei 7/8/2018 6:28 AM
Sup
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:28 AM
making tools for TNES to iNES conv
6:28 AM
3ds VC uses TNES header
6:28 AM
…but it is super SUPER similar to iNES header
6:28 AM
nintendo is lazy
eientei 7/8/2018 6:29 AM
Yup, I know
6:30 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] I was the one who wrote https://pastebin.com/KLeWt2W3
TNES format - Pastebin.com
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:30 AM
Yea
6:30 AM
making converter lol
eientei 7/8/2018 6:31 AM
Cool
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:31 AM
in w/e… Java CLI mayb (edited)
eientei 7/8/2018 6:31 AM
Also, if you want an example of FDS to QD conversion, I have a python script that does it and vice-versa
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:31 AM
idk QD
6:31 AM
Quater Density? lol
eientei 7/8/2018 6:32 AM
.qd is the format they use for FDS games that has the file checksums intact
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:32 AM
rotfl
eientei 7/8/2018 6:32 AM
The resulting size is a clean power of 2
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:32 AM
ahahah
6:32 AM
gj nintendo when it's not suck
eientei 7/8/2018 6:32 AM
The then-prevalent format at the time didn't have any of the sort
6:33 AM
Sorta similar to how the DS VC games on Wii U include the blowfish keys for debug consoles (non-Nintendo dumps don't have these)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:35 AM
also funny thing
6:36 AM
3DS have After Burner II on Sega revival (edited)
6:36 AM
it have Z80+68000 emu lol
f(x)^3 7/8/2018 6:39 AM
Took a look into the memory of Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest (USA) to see what i could find. It's an Angel Studios game so I knew there would be some good stuff
6:39 AM
Found "Geez, you're stupid. You didnt specify an identifyable gGameState, Loser" xD
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:41 AM
lol
f(x)^3 7/8/2018 6:41 AM
There are loads of strings in here
6:41 AM
Hundreds
6:41 AM
mostly stuff like `CatchMgr::CatchIndex -- using catch %d`
Hiccup 7/8/2018 6:45 AM
I wonder if I could just move that subpage. It hasn't been edited since 2015 and Incineroar hasn't been online for a while (edited)
Deleted User 7/8/2018 7:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddy_spW_XH8 (edited)
7:05 AM
is thissa true m8s?
7:05 AM
I've been looking at the forums and nothing really seems off
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:09 AM
`tnes.isWRAMPresent = buf.get() == 0;`
7:09 AM
I'm p lazy
eientei 7/8/2018 7:18 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] Yeah, the Sega games are emulations by M2
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:24 AM
@eientei also PRG/8192?
eientei 7/8/2018 7:24 AM
Yes
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:24 AM
so PRG=2 =means 16384?
eientei 7/8/2018 7:25 AM
Yep
7:25 AM
or 16KB
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:25 AM
NROM doesn't have bankswitching right?
eientei 7/8/2018 7:25 AM
Not that I know of
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:25 AM
k
7:28 AM
@eientei https://i.imgur.com/yNvi3jd.png
7:28 AM
eientei 7/8/2018 7:29 AM
Nice
7:29 AM
But ew, Java
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:29 AM
only I can understand is Java
7:29 AM
(edited)
7:29 AM
(don't say ew plz ;_;) (edited)
7:31 AM
`10-2010: Modified FDS BIOS` (edited)
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/8/2018 7:39 AM
2
7:40 AM
I found debug menu in Tasogare no Ode.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:41 AM
O
7:42 AM
`Show attributes ignore hitboxes FieldJump Show monitor meter FastMove` @Athena 悠里マヤ (Ik you're japanese but I am free/busy atm)
Neko May 7/8/2018 7:42 AM
NROM has no bankswitching, no.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:43 AM
thx
7:43 AM
so I can honor w/e iNES wants (edited)
Neko May 7/8/2018 7:43 AM
32K PRG-ROM max, 8K CHR-ROM max, no PRG/CHR-RAM (edited)
7:44 AM
It's iNES/NES 2.0 Mapper 000
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:45 AM
yea
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/8/2018 7:47 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] Thank you for text! I will post that.
Neko May 7/8/2018 7:49 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person]: NESdev has a wiki with info on all the mappers (as well as the rest of the NES)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 7:50 AM
ikr
Neko May 7/8/2018 7:51 AM
NROM is simple, though, I pulled that from memory
7:51 AM
lol
7:51 AM
There's actually no mapping done since it all fits within the addressable ranges of the CPU/PPU
Hiccup 7/8/2018 8:06 AM
Neat, it seems like the "DSiWare ports" on the 3DS CDN are just plain DSiWare ROMs when decrypted. I always assumed they were in some kind of container.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 8:12 AM
@Hiccup yea, it just have special exheader that tells that this is TWL-image
8:12 AM
and go switch and load TWL_FIRM
Hiccup 7/8/2018 8:13 AM
How can it have an exheader if it doesn't have an NCCH?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 8:13 AM
CIA MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
8:14 AM
CIA = CFA = NCCH
Hiccup 7/8/2018 8:14 AM
So the 3DS puts the DSiWare ROM from the CDN into a CIA?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 8:14 AM
lemme check then
8:14 AM
aka TAD arc
Hiccup 7/8/2018 8:15 AM
Example of what I was saying earlier:
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 8:15 AM
oh yeah ffs
Hiccup 7/8/2018 8:15 AM
This title ID (3DS DSiWare - A Kappa's Trail - USA): 000480044b504145 < its .app is just an SRL. (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 8:15 AM
delete everything I said (edited)
8:16 AM
TAD = (SRL+public.sav+footer.bin+header.bin)
8:16 AM
3DS independently detects TAD archive as title
Hiccup 7/8/2018 8:16 AM
Hmm
8:17 AM
I'm pretty sure if you go into the TWL partition in GodMode9, the .app files in there are just SRL too.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 8:17 AM
TAD is used in DSi, but 3DS one is slightly different
8:17 AM
srl is just dsi format .NDS (edited)
Hiccup 7/8/2018 8:17 AM
Yep.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 8:18 AM
(I wrote TAD depacker so :P) (edited)
Hiccup 7/8/2018 8:18 AM
Not sure what you are saying about TAD though. That's just for exporting to SD, I think. (edited)
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 8:18 AM
yea
8:18 AM
GM9 can dump SRL, and load TAD arc, sure
8:19 AM
(those encrypt is sooooo weak)
Deleted User 7/8/2018 8:29 AM
I would want to fix up the typos but I'm lazy and there's also the fact that I'd have to actually play the game or look it up
Incineroar 7/8/2018 9:28 AM
@Hiccup feel free
Hiccup 7/8/2018 9:54 AM
Thanks
eientei 7/8/2018 9:57 AM
@Chromaryu [3DS person] Just get the modified BIOS from an existing VC game. Problem is, multi-side FDS games will need to be modified before they work
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 9:58 AM
eh sure
9:58 AM
it's just c/p
New Super Jerkass 𝕏 7/8/2018 12:31 PM
If you're making an fds inject for 3ds with NSUI I suggest using VirtuaNES as the emulator for the inject, that way you can supply any version of disksys.rom (edited)
divingkxt 7/8/2018 1:34 PM
https://tcrf.net/Talk:LittleBigPlanet_Karting
Talk:LittleBigPlanet Karting
1:34 PM
Yeah, I asked about this earlier but couldn't find a definite answer.
1:35 PM
Now I know.
1:35 PM
Can someone remove that Defunct Game label from the page?
Nex 7/8/2018 1:37 PM
I removed it (edited)
divingkxt 7/8/2018 1:38 PM
Thank you.
Nex 7/8/2018 1:38 PM
np
Chunky 7/8/2018 1:55 PM
Funnily enough, the servers for LBPK were originally supposed to go down at the end of August 2016, (one month after LBP PSP's servers went offline) but they either forgot to turn them off or it only affected digital copies in specific regions. (edited)
1:55 PM
They only took the servers offline for real within the last two weeks (July 2nd iirc) (edited)
Nex 7/8/2018 2:03 PM
seems legit
Chunky 7/8/2018 2:03 PM
I find it mildly ammusing that LBPK outlived it's original shutdown date of August 31st 2016 by just under two years.
ArcadeStriker 7/8/2018 2:19 PM
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2:19 PM
Unused in F-Zero X
divingkxt 7/8/2018 2:34 PM
@ArcadeStriker Should note TCRF doesn't support playback of WAVs.
2:34 PM
Please upload an OGG copy instead.
2:35 PM
Can easily convert with Audacity.
Xkeeper 7/8/2018 3:36 PM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/1016042694412402688
🌸 X/Revya 🌸 (@xkeepah)
unused scrolling effect in link's awakening (obj 64). if i had to guess why it was cut, maybe because it jerks back to its original place on screen transition. the scrolling clouds are even drawn on every transition between indoors and outdoors... it's a shame. (not on wi...
Zerovii 7/8/2018 3:37 PM
yo thats cool
3:37 PM
nice find xkeeper
Deleted User 7/8/2018 3:40 PM
DZqMIWFGUB
Xkeeper 7/8/2018 3:48 PM
https://twitter.com/xkeepah/status/1016046111008518144
🌸 X/Revya 🌸 (@xkeepah)
it works fine with the boss present, so...?? https://t.co/FAIlILGnP7
Lako 7/8/2018 5:37 PM
idk what this is
Wumbo 7/8/2018 5:38 PM
U.B. Funkeys?
Lako 7/8/2018 5:39 PM
yeah
Wumbo 7/8/2018 5:40 PM
Is this creepy_popup or whatever it is?
Lako 7/8/2018 5:40 PM
no
Wumbo 7/8/2018 5:40 PM
Hmm
5:40 PM
I've never played the game before but
Lako 7/8/2018 5:40 PM
its apart of the fighting minigame
5:41 PM
but i dont even know where that would be used
Wumbo 7/8/2018 5:41 PM
Some Mega-Punch attack, maybe?
ArcadeStriker 7/8/2018 6:05 PM
oof
6:05 PM
just saw that wav cant be embedded
6:05 PM
noticed that when i attempted to add it to the fzx page
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:16 PM
@ArcadeStriker https://elguadia.faith/Yeah1stPlace.ogg ;)
divingkxt 7/8/2018 6:17 PM
Already got my own upload up.
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 6:18 PM
cough
6:18 PM
eh… was too late
6:18 PM
anyway deleting from my webstorage
6:18 PM
I should expand
DarthDubඞ 7/8/2018 7:32 PM
i wonder how long it would take me to get on the levels of diving
divingkxt 7/8/2018 8:54 PM
At least 7 years.
DarthDubඞ 7/8/2018 8:54 PM
well i'm not going anywhere else, so i'll be here
divingkxt 7/8/2018 9:27 PM
Here's a pro tip.
9:27 PM
A lot of games have hidden command prompt arguments.
9:28 PM
That is to if you use Windows's command prompt to open up the game...
9:28 PM
you can stuff like "crysis /devmode" or some such thing.
9:28 PM
I know of several dead online-only games that have functions like this.
9:29 PM
It's also true for anything that has some sort of terminal or command prompt...
9:29 PM
like DOS, Mac OS X, Linux, OpenBSD, etc.
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Wumbo 7/8/2018 10:05 PM
Ripping the thumbs-up animation is easier than I thought
10:05 PM
Not quite there but here's a good chunk of it
10:06 PM
Light gray tile is a recreation because I couldn't find the original tile (if there is one)
10:08 PM
The first three frames may be ordered incorrectly
Halfbit 7/8/2018 10:09 PM
What game is that from?
Wumbo 7/8/2018 10:09 PM
Sonic X (Leapster)
Halfbit 7/8/2018 10:09 PM
Oh
10:09 PM
Have you ripped all the sprites from that?
10:10 PM
And how are the cutscenes stored?
10:10 PM
Are they prerendered?
Wumbo 7/8/2018 10:10 PM
1. Nope (edited)
10:11 PM
2. As SWF files (edited)
10:11 PM
3. Nope; Just sprites based on Sonic Advance in the S3 style (edited)
ShiniiLevii 7/8/2018 10:12 PM
those look like Sonic 3 sprites more than Sonic Advance
10:12 PM
good catch
DarthDubඞ 7/8/2018 10:12 PM
they're sonic 3 styled sprites based off sonic advance animations
Neko May 7/8/2018 10:30 PM
Sonic wakes up then gives the Black Power salute
Laenthor 7/8/2018 10:35 PM
✊
Phantom Gardener 7/8/2018 10:39 PM
Hello
Neko May 7/8/2018 10:41 PM
Hello.
Wumbo 7/8/2018 10:46 PM
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/8/2018 11:53 PM
yawns
Neko May 7/9/2018 12:05 AM
Heehee
12:05 AM
Heya, @Chromaryu [3DS person]
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/9/2018 12:07 AM
hi
12:08 AM
coding l8r today
Neko May 7/9/2018 12:11 AM
@Wumbo: Sonic Solidarity
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/9/2018 12:19 AM
hi
FMecha 7/9/2018 12:24 AM
hi
Tsugato 7/9/2018 1:00 AM
punk7890 7/9/2018 1:07 AM
hi
Deleted User 7/9/2018 1:21 AM
Hello!
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/9/2018 1:24 AM
@Athena 悠里マヤ (yet I am Japanese too)
punk7890 7/9/2018 1:39 AM
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Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/9/2018 1:45 AM
@punk7890 funny thing
1:45 AM
In Ace Combat 5 (PS2, NTSC-J ver), Emu behaves… wrong. it just misses all hitboxes lol
Deleted User 7/9/2018 1:45 AM
think i found some unused text in a flash adaptation of Luxor
punk7890 7/9/2018 1:49 AM
hmm there is another debug menu here that's in a unused section of code
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Deleted User 7/9/2018 2:00 AM
cool!
Revenant 7/9/2018 2:03 AM
[duke nukem voice] i've got trains of balls
Neko May 7/9/2018 2:07 AM
X3
2:14 AM
https://twitter.com/candid_canid/status/1016111175740903424?s=19
Wespacito @ AC (@candid_canid)
me, in the fursuit lounge: im so hot, my baklava is absolutely drenched friend: you mean balaclava me, scooping pastry out of my fursuit head: no
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Revenant 7/9/2018 2:15 AM
me eating baklava while wearing a balaclava and playing a balalaika
Neko May 7/9/2018 2:15 AM
lol
punk7890 7/9/2018 2:22 AM
https://twitter.com/punk_7890/status/1016205992348925952
punk7890 (@punk_7890)
Found a debug menu in X-Men: Next Dimension (PS2) https://t.co/dFoxPwk0Gu This contains various settings you can tweak. This has camera settings, resolution settings, map lighting settings, and more. You can also set yourself to become a CPU at any time as well.
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Deleted User 7/9/2018 4:22 AM
I found some unused audio in baldi's basics V1 of the developer speaking
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 4:24 AM
i think they might have already been found, what's he saying in the audio?
Deleted User 7/9/2018 4:25 AM
Tips on how to play the game
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 4:25 AM
yeah, i believe those have already been found, him describing the characters/what they do
Deleted User 7/9/2018 4:25 AM
Yes
4:25 AM
there not on the site tho.
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 4:26 AM
oh right
Deleted User 7/9/2018 4:26 AM
I'll go deeper and find more unused content
4:28 AM
What's this doing here?
4:29 AM
There's sounds of playtime explaining how to play jumprope and counting to ten, i know these have already been found. but there not on tcrf either.
leilei 7/9/2018 4:43 AM
unity logo = common things
Deleted User 7/9/2018 5:27 AM
I updated the Baldi's basics page with the unused playtime soundclips
AceKombat 7/9/2018 7:55 AM
There are some unused audio tracks in Pac-Man 2 - The New Adventures (Sega Genesis/Megadrive) that does not normally show up in the Sound Test menu.
7:56 AM
PAR code: FFFC13:00?? (?? = value for interested SFX/BGM). 0x09, 0x1E, are unused/does not show up in the Sound Test accordingly... unsure about 0xE0, but everything from 0xE0 ~ 0xFF seem unused (or maybe leftover from another game?) (edited)
Wumbo 7/9/2018 10:50 AM
Hmm
10:50 AM
Looks like TheBlurCafe in the SRB2 Discord already worked out a largely-complete sprite sheet for Sonic and a complete sprite sheet for Knuckles
10:51 AM
Leaving only Tails and Amy left
FMecha 7/9/2018 11:29 AM
(NUD = Namco Universal Texture format. Game in question is Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 5.)
Ali-a 7/9/2018 12:33 PM
PO0tiIVjVD
12:35 PM
somebody respond?
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Deleted User 7/9/2018 12:36 PM
@Ali-a `nqILac1YiD`
Ali-a 7/9/2018 12:36 PM
k
Ali-a 7/9/2018 12:50 PM
i did something wrong.. but i translated it correctly
Nex 7/9/2018 12:50 PM
uh
Ali-a 7/9/2018 12:52 PM
Wumbo 7/9/2018 1:09 PM
We can't just leave it like this until someone fixes it
1:09 PM
Read "Rules and Editing Help"
Smoke 7/9/2018 1:13 PM
The wikitable's formatting was removed completely
Deleted User 7/9/2018 1:30 PM
@Ali-a Do not use machine translations. It is against our rules.
CheetahPixie 7/9/2018 1:43 PM
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welcome to my yestersday
Rena 7/9/2018 1:44 PM
CheetahPixie 7/9/2018 1:53 PM
you can say that this kinda stuff is the only way to trigger me
Dezent 7/9/2018 1:54 PM
Tell him to get his own stuff
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/9/2018 2:12 PM
hey guys
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just wanted to tell you
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im on the verge of deleting my twitter
🍊FrenchOrange🍊 7/9/2018 2:12 PM
Oh
Patapon Fanatic #3 7/9/2018 2:12 PM
https://twitter.com/sh0ckturtle/status/1016367133528387589
shockturtle (@sh0ckturtle)
Don't ask just vote
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eientei 7/9/2018 2:22 PM
@CheetahPixie chill, it's just a floppy disk
2:23 PM
If they've survived this long, I'm sure they'll survive longer
chlœrawr ♀ 7/9/2018 2:41 PM
Would you say the same thing if it was the floppy containing the only copy of a rare prototype of a game in existence? Probably not. I can see why he'd be triggered like that in this case.
CheetahPixie 7/9/2018 2:42 PM
@eientei not if those old fucks are treated like trash, no they won't
2:42 PM
have you any idea how sensitive they are?
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 2:42 PM
considering how thin they are i imagine they're incredibly susceptible to damage or breaking
2:43 PM
I've never handled one personally
chlœrawr ♀ 7/9/2018 2:43 PM
Especially 8" or 5 1/4" ones
2:43 PM
shudders
eientei 7/9/2018 2:43 PM
So you'd rather treat your own father like trash than explain the situation?
2:44 PM
@chlœrawr ♀ first I'd ask why the bloody hell it wasn't backed up 5 times at least
chlœrawr ♀ 7/9/2018 2:44 PM
Here's what I think is going on: He's particularly worried about the condition of his floppy disks because of not only their age, but their overall condition and how uncommon they are to find these days.
2:45 PM
I'd even say at least back it up somewhere too
ErnestoAM 7/9/2018 2:46 PM
I found a few floppy disks at some thrift store the other day. Idk if they contained anything. They were bundled so most likely 'new.'
eientei 7/9/2018 2:51 PM
Physical items are fleeting. Family bonds are forever.
2:52 PM
Don't let something as insignificant as a floppy disk get inbetween you and your father (edited)
blueskyrunner 7/9/2018 3:53 PM
Yeah, I get wanting to take care of your collectable, and I agree it sucks when people mishandle them, but I have to say that was a MASSIVE over-reaction on your part
tobi_legend_meat.h 7/9/2018 3:56 PM
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This is a rerely talked about game from approx. 2007. It may not look like something huge to contribute.
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BUT
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If you press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 in order, you will get a "cheat" mode, which I call the Debug mode.
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First thing to note is the FPS counter which is on the bottom left.
3:59 PM
The counter is really really quick at changing, as in it may trigger a seizure type fast.
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I gives Immortality for 20 seconds.
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L completes the level.
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H gives you 5 hearts
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K does esactly what it sounds - Takes all your hearts away which results in death.
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U makes all levels available, as it sounds
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And S will teleport you near the child (Which is the end of a stage that's not a boss stage)
Wumbo 7/9/2018 4:17 PM
Starting on ripping Tails' sprites
tobi_legend_meat.h 7/9/2018 4:21 PM
Nice.
Wumbo 7/9/2018 5:30 PM
First 8 frames of Tails' exclusive victory animation
Netscape Navigator 7/9/2018 5:36 PM
what a mess
Wumbo 7/9/2018 5:36 PM
Ye
Lako 7/9/2018 6:12 PM
How does it look in a gif?
6:12 PM
And isn't tails not playable?
Wumbo 7/9/2018 6:25 PM
Yes
6:25 PM
But he has a victory animation
Wumbo 7/9/2018 9:06 PM
Amy's palette is so outrageously confusing
9:06 PM
You change one shade of gray to make the gloves brighter but then the eyes start to look odd
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Then you try to alter the eyes and then the gloves start to look odd
9:08 PM
And then you don't have any references because Amy wasn't in Sonic 3
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And the CD palette would, of course, screw everything up
Wumbo 7/9/2018 10:19 PM
I'm getting there
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Now the main problem is the skin colors
10:19 PM
It can't be red and peach-colored at the same time
Lako 7/9/2018 10:40 PM
How's the Amy Sprite going?
Wumbo 7/9/2018 11:02 PM
D'OH
11:02 PM
Just closed out the window
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Without saving the palette
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Now I'll have to do it all over again...
Neko May 7/9/2018 11:04 PM
Tails > Sonic
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:06 PM
Knuckles > Everyone
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:07 PM
*pre-modern era knuckles
11:07 PM
i hate what he's become
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:08 PM
I wish I could play as knuckles in a modern sonic game and just not hunt goddamn jewelery
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:08 PM
honestly i really am just never gonna understand the hate for the treasure hunting levels, but yeah, it would be nice
11:09 PM
i want to play a game where silver is playable and doesn't control like shit
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:09 PM
I just want to play a modern sonic game that is equal or better than generations
11:09 PM
And longer, man generations was a short game
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:10 PM
i really just don't like boost gameplay and what sega thinks classic sonic played like in the 1990s
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:10 PM
And I also am always too tired to do anything on tcrf. I'm on my first break since last tuesday tomorow so Imma do stuff I guess
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Mania is good
11:11 PM
I want mania plus too
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:11 PM
mania is only good because sega didn't put their dirty hands on it
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:11 PM
Wait, then what do you like about sonic?
11:11 PM
"i really just don't like boost gameplay and what sega thinks classic sonic played like in the 1990s"
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:12 PM
the adventure style games where i can actually move in a 3D space, which stopped with sonic 06
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:12 PM
Sonic 06 ironically is the only sonic game past shadow that does not have 2d sections
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:13 PM
which is something i greatly miss
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:14 PM
Meh, if the level design is good it doesn't matter for me (but it never is, looking at you Forces...)
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:14 PM
i enjoy sonic 06 to an extent because of its gameplay, which i believe is redeemable if it wasn't for the game being broken
11:14 PM
the story is a lost cause, though
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:14 PM
The 06 engine is just a mess overall
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There are no proper physics
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:14 PM
it's one reason I'm hoping the PC remake actually gets finished
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:15 PM
That thing on unity?
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:15 PM
whatever they were using to rebuild sonic 06, yeah
Laenthor 7/9/2018 11:15 PM
Hmm, we're clogging the general chat with this, maybe we should move to games
Hugette Hikari 7/9/2018 11:15 PM
alright
Deleted User 7/9/2018 11:23 PM
LGhFYMWRY0
Biozeminade 7/9/2018 11:23 PM
Thanks
DarthDubඞ 7/9/2018 11:38 PM
did Ehm malfunction?
ArcadeStriker 7/9/2018 11:49 PM
Guys...remember that FZX "Unused voice" from days ago?
11:49 PM
...maybe it's not really unused :p
11:49 PM
gonna remove it from the page but yeah
11:49 PM
apparently its used when you beat a ghost in time trials
Neko May 7/9/2018 11:54 PM
@DarthDubඞ: No, someone didn't read the rules and posted their verification code in here
Revenant 7/9/2018 11:56 PM
there's no rule stating that people have to post those in a specific channel
Neko May 7/9/2018 11:59 PM
I thought we had the #account-requests channel for it
11:59 PM
Okay, I meant to say "instructions", sorry
11:59 PM
My mind is a bit scrambled at the moment
Revenant 7/9/2018 11:59 PM
the instructions just say "ping a moderator"
Neko May 7/10/2018 12:00 AM
Oh.
12:01 AM
I'd point people there specifically so it doesn't get lost in the noise
12:02 AM
It's almost impossible to ping the mods from IRC because of the knife emoji in that one
12:03 AM
You'd have to be aware it's in there, and you can only discover that using Discord
Laenthor 7/10/2018 12:13 AM
Why is the mod symbol a knife in the first place? Couldn't it be something like
12:14 AM
That would fix the problem, no?
Chromaryu [3DS person] 7/10/2018 12:16 AM
Laenthor 7/10/2018 12:17 AM
Get back! I can defend myself from far away with this!
MysticSageJosh 7/10/2018 12:18 AM
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THIS IS AN ACTUAL GUN ON MY SCREEN, YOU ARE WARNED
blueskyrunner 7/10/2018 12:21 AM
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Watch out, it's lit
Deleted User 7/10/2018 12:25 AM
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MysticSageJosh 7/10/2018 12:29 AM
"You have a habit of closing one eye when you get scared, don't you?"
FMecha 7/10/2018 12:38 AM
Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 3 has a debug menu (from Dax of WMMT server) https://youtu.be/jTbcrxHZp1w
derole
mt3 debug mode
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/10/2018 1:19 AM
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I found debug display in Lupin 3sei Cagliostro no Shiro Saikai.
Neko May 7/10/2018 1:22 AM
Nice!
Athena 悠里マヤ 7/10/2018 1:33 AM
Thank you!
Neko May 7/10/2018 1:38 AM
You're welcome! ^w^
punk7890 7/10/2018 2:03 AM
nice
Spyro 2025 7/10/2018 3:46 AM
https://youtu.be/gTO0V5b0Lq8
biospark
Metroid Fusion - Unused Enemies (Skree, Geega, Gas Cloud)
Biozeminade 7/10/2018 3:48 AM
Sorry! I didn't see anything telling me to post in a specific channel! I was unsure about keeping my msg with the request code up, so I deleted it
Neko May 7/10/2018 3:52 AM
No, I was wrong, sorry. (edited)
3:53 AM
I thought there was because there's a specific channel for it, but there's no requirement or instruction to use it. (edited)
3:55 AM
My account is years old so I've never seen the new registration page. X3
eientei 7/10/2018 4:19 AM
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So according to this, "Iron Sword" is trademarked to Acclaim (it wasn't) and IronSword is copyrighted to Rare