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Previously we added some adjectives to the dictionary, which I hope we can expand upon in this 'read. Here's some of what we got done yesterday.
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Adjectives:
good ➡ gemy
bad ➡ col
great ➡ giga
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Ratings:
gem ➡ clat
recarbonize ➡ lat
coal ➡ carb
iron ➡ fe
brimstone ➡ azuf
gemerald ➡ gzmarag
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Shameless bvmp
▶ №14196138[Quote]>>14196143>>14196172>>14196270
>>14196035Brown = Jiit
Thus:
India = Jiitia
Africa = Nergria
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>>14196138>>14196143I think it could possibly work.
▶ №14196184[Quote]>>14196217
is there some gendered article or something to tell the difference xhe(she) and xhe(he) like in German or did 'ki fuck it up
▶ №14196232[Quote]>>14196252
>>14196143>>14196217I'm adding a description on the 'ki page and planning to add more to it soon.
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>>14196232While we wait for the 'ki page to update, I'm gonna pull out some ARYAN classical music for everyone to listen to
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>>14196138Just added this and Purple = Blorp to the wiki page
▶ №14196283[Quote]>>14196307>>14196329
got an idea on maybe using "sage" or a slightly different version on it for negatives
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>>14196270Looks gemmy, I'm thinking you should add an umlaut to make it sound more Germanic and Aryan
<Like blürp or blörp maybe.
▶ №14196307[Quote]>>14196329
>>14196283for example
I don't like FPE -> I like säge FPE
▶ №14196329[Quote]>>14196349
>>14196283>>14196307Possibly, though since
col and
gemy are already used to describe bad and good, maybe it could be a word that'll define a varying degree of dislike?
▶ №14196331[Quote]>>14196355
Off topic but is anyone else here unironically diagnosed with autism
Wouldn’t be surprising
▶ №14196349[Quote]>>14196362
>>14196329doe col and gemy are adjectives, right? while sage would be an adverb o algo
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>>14196331No, but I've had a psychiatrist tell me once that I show some signs of it.
▶ №14196362[Quote]>>14196423
>>14196349Ooooh nvm you're right, it can be an adverb.
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>>14196035Red -> saz
Blue -> gemil
Green -> gzmül
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>>14196399Yeah, the 'ki. Also no ID award
▶ №14196410[Quote]>>14196458
Also for all the newGODS here’s the ki link
https://soyjakwiki.org/NuSoyish_Dictionary▶ №14196423[Quote]>>14196438
>>14196362so we could use säge to replace don't/not
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>>14196410Personally, I think the 'ki page's name should be changed to either just "Soyish" or "Soyish Language" or something
▶ №14196465[Quote]>>14196483
Hey Soyim, amateur glotto-chronologist here, one suggestion I would highly suggest is adding the phonetic alphabet sounds next to them as to ensure we have a standard of pronunciation, as with some of these words, I'm a bit perplexed as to how we should pronounce them, do J's follow Slavic pronunciation like ya, or do we say "zhuh" like Jelly. I think the addition of phonetic letters would do a great job ensuring that we have a standardized dialect from the get go.
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what should the page be called
▶ №14196483[Quote]>>14197228
>>14196465My mistake reading further there seems to be some phonetic elaboration, much appreciated.
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>>14196475Voting NuSoyish Language because I won't turn off my VPN
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i think we can improve it by makin it easier to learn or something
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>>14196574Looks good, changed the redirect link in our mention in Happenings so it goes to the NuSoyish Language 'ki page.
▶ №14196712[Quote]>>14196729
Just added 3 redirects; Soy Conlang, NuSoyish, and Soyish. Any more?
▶ №14196729[Quote]>>14196765
>>14196712I'll think of more, but where'd you put the redirects?
▶ №14196765[Quote]>>14196790
>>14196729uhhh… the ‘ki? where else would I put them?
▶ №14196790[Quote]>>14196827
>>14196765Sorry, I forgot to clarify. I meant to say where on the 'ki did you put it?
▶ №14196827[Quote]>>14196866
>>14196790new redirect links? what else would I do?
▶ №14196902[Quote]>>14196924>>14196931
Anyways, I'm thinking next we should create more adjectives and color words.
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>>14196902CURRENT COLOR WORDSBlack ➡ Nergr
Brown ➡ Jiit
Purple ➡ Blorp
Red ➡ saz
Blue ➡ gemil
Green ➡ gzmül
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>>14196931Gemerald idea, adding right now
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>>14196924MORE COLOR WORDS
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>>14196931Perfect, add it.
▶ №14196951[Quote]>>14196968>>14196973>>14197553
also we use this list for idea of words to add o algo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swadesh_list▶ №14197096[Quote]>>14197158
Added some stuff to the number section
th ➡️ sæg
Example
How to say 3,141.592:
Three thousand one hundred forty one and five hundred and ninety two thousandths ➡️ Jir masant wo hecent qir wo uhnd uneli masant olsir yer masantsæg
▶ №14197123[Quote]>>14197158
Also what should our word for numbers themselves be?
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After we come up with a word for numbers we could come up with some cool names, like 666 = evil number, e = exponent number, pi =circle number, phi = gold number, etc
▶ №14197158[Quote]>>14197168>>14197499
>>14197096>Jir masant wo hecent qir wo uhnd uneli masant olsir yer masantsægFuck, I love this.
>>14197123I'm thinking maybe "Nübret(s)". How does that sound?
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>>14197158If anyone else likes this idea I’ll add it. , how could you tell?
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Aryan bvmp
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Bvmp
▶ №14197343[Quote]>>14197411>>14197418
Add
Subtract
Multiply
Divide
Exponent
Root
Also shape words while we’re at it
Triangle
Circle
Square
Cube
Polyhedron
Polygon
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>>14197343Before we build the words using
-gon, we should figure out what to call the words
many/much. ▶ №14197480[Quote]
>>14197418NQNQNQ THE FPE ‘COR- oh wait that’s actually kind of cute
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>>14197411many;much ➡ müsfew;less ➡ füs<This maybe?
▶ №14197499[Quote]>>14197606
>>14197158>>14197485I’ll add them if we just get one more person on board
▶ №14197519[Quote]>>14197535
what do you think of the verb system i made for another germanic coonlang with thematic vowels
"e" theme:
present-participle & present tense: "e"
past-participle/passive voice & past tense: "ee" (pronounced like in english)
examples: "etele geg"=I'm laughing, "etele geeg"=I laughed "de geeg"=the one who was laughed at
theme "o": same thing but with o, oo
examples: "peeso moro"=killing floor, "mooro gai"=dead person
plus prefixes because i like them, such as "raz-"=scatter/distribute, "razmoro"=to massacre
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Marge? and oreos
▶ №14197535[Quote]>>14197570
>>14197519Gemmy. What other conlang did you make? award
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>>14196951I → etele
you (singular) → du
he → xhe / xe
we →
you (plural) → dus
they → zhey
this →
that →
here →
there →
who → fagnit
what → marge / vot
where → vere
when → timistin
how → talet
not → noi
all →
many →
some →
few →
other → odu
one → wo
two → yer
three → jir
four → qakhan
five → uneli
big → (use noun + -igge)
long →
wide →
thick →
heavy →
small → (use noun + -itte)
short →
narrow →
thin →
woman →
man (adult male) →
man (human being) → pers
child →
wife →
husband →
mother →
father →
animal →
fish →
bird →
dog →
louse →
snake →
worm →
tree →
forest →
stick →
fruit →
seed →
leaf →
root →
bark (tree) →
flower →
grass →
rope →
skin →
meat →
blood →
bone →
fat (noun) →
egg →
horn →
tail →
feather →
hair →
head →
ear →
eye →
nose →
mouth →
tooth →
tongue →
fingernail →
foot →
leg →
knee →
hand →
wing →
belly →
guts →
neck →
back → surx (also “back/behind”)
breast →
heart →
liver →
to drink →
to eat →
to bite →
to suck →
to spit →
to vomit →
to blow →
to breathe →
to laugh →
to see →
to hear →
to know →
to think →
to smell →
to fear →
to sleep →
to live →
to die →
to kill →
to fight →
to hunt →
to hit →
to cut →
to split →
to stab →
to scratch →
to dig →
to swim →
to fly →
to walk →
to come →
to lie (in a bed) →
to sit →
to stand →
to turn (intrans.) →
to fall →
to give →
to hold →
to squeeze →
to rub →
to wash →
to wipe →
to pull →
to push →
to throw →
to tie →
to sew →
to count →
to say →
to sing →
to play →
to float →
to flow →
to freeze →
to swell →
sun →
moon →
star →
water →
rain →
river →
lake →
sea →
salt →
stone →
sand →
dust →
earth →
cloud →
fog →
sky →
wind →
snow →
ice →
smoke →
fire →
ash →
to burn →
road →
mountain →
red → saz
green → gzmül
yellow →
white →
black → Nergr
Time
night →
day →
year →
warm →
cold →
full →
new →
old →
good → gemy
bad → col
rotten →
dirty →
straight →
round →
sharp →
dull →
smooth →
wet →
dry →
correct →
near → när
far → for
right →
left →
at → tiv / bi
in → in
with →
and → uhnd
if →
because →
name →
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>>14197553I used chagpt to fill it out because I'm lazy some wrongs might be wrong o algo
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>>14197535i had one with 3 vowels and 2 tones and a length distinction so you could separate the vowels into the tones to make 6 tones, and then use your intonation to speak it and english at the same time (and you would end up sounding like the g-man from halflife)
you could also whistle it and transcribe it into music
but i have never finished a conlang because i just found out i have adhd and i dont have meds
▶ №14197606[Quote]>>14197657
>>14197485>>14197499Actually I was just being a lazy little fuck. I like them, you like them, I’ll add them.
▶ №14197798[Quote]>>14197818
Then we can call sun daysphere and moon nightsphere
▶ №14197818[Quote]>>14197951
>>14197798ären(sphere)Have to create a word for sphere.
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this → zis
that → zat
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Bvmp
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Changed gzmül to mülgz.
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straight → stäust
▶ №14197951[Quote]>>14197967
>>14197818Góla for jeetGODS
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>>14197951Or Göla
or something
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Here’s every translation on der ‘ki right now (WALL OF TEXT ALERT)
Grammatic rules
Put a tense marker before a verb to set the tense.
buf- ➡ past tense
nuw- ➡ present tense
fujt- ➡ future tense
Add (-itte) onto the end of a noun to make it little.
Add (-igge) onto the end of a noun to make it big.
Pronouns and other stuff
I ➡ etele (Add -er to make possessives.)
me ➡ mi
he ➡ xhe
what ➡ marge/vot
is ➡ juti
other ➡ odu
She ➡ xhe
how ➡ talet
are ➡ atel
it ➡ xhit
where ➡ vere
he ➡ xe
you ➡ du
why ➡ duastit
you (plural) ➡ dus
they ➡ zhey
Articles:
A ➡ uh
an ➡ uhn
and ➡ uhnd
the ➡ de
Other stuff
who ➡ fagnit
which ➡ dilich
when ➡ timistin
again ➡ core
at ➡ tiv
gone ➡ nir
yes ➡ yej
not ➡ noi
your ➡ dur
person ➡ pers
place ➡ ia
Ratings
gem ➡ clat
recarbonize ➡ lat
coal ➡ carb
iron ➡ fe
brimstone ➡ azuf
gemerald ➡ gzmarag
Adjectives
good ➡ gemy
bad ➡ col
great ➡ giga
many/much ➡ müs
few/less ➡ füs
Color
Black ➡ nergr
Brown ➡ jiit
Purple ➡ blorp
Red ➡ saz
Blue ➡ gemil
Green ➡ gzmül
Orange ➡ fröt
Time
night ➡ nüs
day ➡ ären
week ➡ irmären
month ➡ jireären
year ➡ läusen
Shapes
sphere ➡ góla
Numbers
1 ➡ wo
2 ➡ yer
3 ➡ jir
4 ➡ qakhan
5 ➡ uneli
6 ➡ drembo
7 ➡ irmil
8 ➡ uhe
9 ➡ olse
10 ➡ dire
20 ➡ yire
30 ➡ jire
40 ➡ qir
50 ➡ unir
60 ➡ thrir
70 ➡ imir
80 ➡ uhir
90 ➡ olsir
100 ➡ hecent
1000 ➡ masant
1,000,000 ➡ gigus
1,000,000,000 ➡ gaginst
illion ➡️ gug
th ➡️ sæg
Number ➡️ nübret
Example
How to say 3,141.592:
Three thousand one hundred forty one and five hundred and ninety two thousandths ➡️ Jir masant wo hecent qir wo uhnd uneli masant olsir yer masantsæg
Vowels
a /a/, e /e/, i /i/, o /o/, u /u/
Umlaut Vowels:
ä /æ/, ö /ø/, ü /y/
Umlaut Rules:
Whenever a historical /i/ or /j/ would follow, the root vowel shifts:
Base ➡ Umlaut
a ➡ ä
o ➡ ö
u ➡ ü
Diphthongs:
ai /aj/, ei /ej/, oi /oj/, au /au̯/, äu /æu̯/ (umlauted diphthong)
Diminutives (-itte) trigger umlaut:
a ➡ ä before -itte
o ➡ ö before -itte
u ➡ ü before -itte
Example: xon ("house") ➡ xönitte ("little house")
Augmentative (-igge) doesn't trigger umlaut:
Because the -igge suffix starts with a back vowel and consonant, it blocks fronting.
Example: xon ➡ xonigge ("big house", no umlaut)
Consonants
Consonants:
b /b/, as in English
d /d/
f /f/
g /g/, always hard (no /dʒ/)
h /h/
j /j/, "yes"(Germanic j-sound)
k /k/
l /l/
m /m/
n /n/
p /p/
r /r/, tap /r/ or trill /r/
s /s/, always /s/, never /z/
t /t/
v /v/
w /w/
x /ks/ or /gz/, English-like
Consonants:
b /b/, as in English
d /d/
f /f/
g /g/, always hard (no /dʒ/)
h /h/
j /j/, "yes"(Germanic j-sound)
k /k/
l /l/
m /m/
n /n/
p /p/
r /r/, tap /r/ or trill /r/
s /s/, always /s/, never /z/
t /t/
v /v/
w /w/
x /x/
z /z/
Position Words
above ➡ obar
below ➡ ondar
at ➡ bi
front ➡ frönd
back ➡ surx
close/near ➡ när
long/far ➡ for
in ➡ in
out ➡ ot
next ➡ näkts
opposite/away ➡ veg
between ➡ inyer
SNCA
This section contains any non-basic words.
Nouns
Lie ➡ Jhúth
Sun ➡ Day sphere ➡ nüsgóla
Anyone I don’t like
Tranny ➡ Lie he person ➡ Jhúthxepers
Fur ➡ Ver
Furry ➡ Fur + “y” sound ➡ Veri
Nigger ➡ Black person ➡ Nergrpers
Indian ➡ Brown person ➡ Jiitpers
Africa ➡ Black place ➡ Nergia
India ➡ Brown place ➡ Jiitia
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Bvmp
▶ №14198112[Quote]>>14198284>>14198492>>14200002>>14201433
verbs including thematic vowels. The first e/o is the thematic vowel.
to eat/drink → bugze
to bite → klech
to suck → bewesi
to spit → pto
to vomit → ptopota
to blow → forshox
to breathe → hox
to laugh → geg
to see → vet
to hear → ore
to know → knawe
to think → time
to smell → klae
to fear → atwefo
to sleep → doru
to live → eyenbi
to die → eak
to kill → keweak
to fight → reyd
to hunt → dox
to hit → poreyd
to cut → skre
to split → dive
to stab → zaskre
to scratch → pereskre
to dig → ekske
to swim → nwede
to fly → komakfutir
to walk → parem
to come → kume
to lie (in a bed) → lednit
to sit → eyefke
to stand → duron
to turn (intrans.) → untpe
to fall → aneap
to give → de
to hold → onf
to squeeze → henet
to rub → perehenet
to wash → lave
to wipe → pereftek
to pull → anefors
to push → fors
to throw → yet
to tie → mendu
to sew/weave → slego
to count → niubret
to say → tektak
to sing → feg
to play → igre
to float → bexi
to flow → ache
to freeze → setalda
to swell → eytakiz
some other words i needed defined for this section
stomach/belly: pota
to cause: kew
instantly (quickly beginning and ending): po
across the surface: pere
into: za
to do as the root does: komak
bird: futir
to do the opposite: ane
up: ap
to touch: ftek
to become: seta
ice: lda award
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>>14198116duastit xe jute aryan?
▶ №14198284[Quote]>>14198473
>>14198112niggabump. add my verbs and verb grammar to the dictionary
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>>14198284Fixing up the 'ki page for a sec.
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>>14198112I'll do a little Germanifying of these verbs before I put them on the 'ki, like adding some umlauts here and there.
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Bvmp, how could you tell?
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have 67 be gorgenshemore
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Up
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Bvmp
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Aryan bvmp
▶ №14199037[Quote]>>14199125>>14199127
I think it's good idea to make some words or idioms/greetings based on stuff in the site so it sounds more organic
▶ №14199125[Quote]>>14199231
>>14199037Let's do that then. We'll take a short break from the verbs list and everything since it's taking a lot of time at the moment.
▶ №14199127[Quote]>>14199209
>>14199037like for example
"how are you?" could be something like "how's the posting" or "how's the 'log?"
or "my name is" could be "my namefag is"
▶ №14199214[Quote]>>14199238
geg nusois will take like 2 days to finish this and then not even nophono will use it
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>>14199125Hello/Hi/Hey/
How are you?
Good morning/afternoon/evening
Goodbye
Please
Thank you
You're welcome
Excuse me
What's your name
My name is
▶ №14199238[Quote]>>14199252
>>14199214it will take more than two days to finish it, we need to get the nouns and shieet done as well
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>>14199238it'll take a thrembillion years
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Bvmp
▶ №14199492[Quote]>>14199544
For soyble related translations We should use admin stuff for religous stuff, also religous phrases greatly influence language development, for example goodbye comes from an abbreviation or God Be With Ye. The list below contains some of my suggestions
GOD > SOOT
SATAN > THREMBOOT
Add OOT on the end of names to signify a divine nature, for example QUOTE would be changed to QUOOT, KUZ to KUZOOT and so on award
▶ №14199544[Quote]>>14199713>>14199741
>>14199492isn't admin thrembo good doe
also this can apply to authority n shieet, where we could replace leader, king with admin
▶ №14199713[Quote]>>14199846
>>14199544shieet nigga I confused him with admin 6, how about the word for satan be
Dremboot since Drembo is the word for 6, and
Thremboot can be the word for savior
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>>14199544Also I think it would be funnier if admin could mean leader and king could be kang
▶ №14199846[Quote]>>14200080
>>14199713trve but the 'ki also calls him Toos
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>>14199835or we could make tribe leaders be called kangs(since Africa is filled with tribes n shieet)
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>>14198112Should we actually add these
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morning → käurären
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käurären
käur ären
early day
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Wait we just passed a tier 5 GET
As for the actual thread
>>14200008That’s good I’ll add it
▶ №14200080[Quote]>>14200092
>>14199846maybe
TOOS can be the word for satan and
DREMBOOT can be the word for a devil
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>>14200000lemme check the get
▶ №14200129[Quote]>>14200166>>14200182
like i said in the other thread, baby should be "persitte", since it literally means little person
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>>14200129I think Caca would be better, persitte could refer to a child doe
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>>14200129what about dwarves
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>>14200182Dwarves could be referred to as rock people, using the first edition dictionary that would be husmipers
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>>14200075I'll come up with something for it.
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Vperald
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https://soyjakwiki.org/Soyspeakread up on this for more ideas o algo
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bvmp
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>>14200075Alright, let me come up with something for evening real quick.
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Bvmp
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Bvmp
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vp
▶ №14200754[Quote]>>14200771>>14201551
>>14200075Alright, here it is:
evening → lübenärenlüben(Later)-ären(day) ▶ №14200771[Quote]
>>14200754Next is Afternoon.
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afternoon → äbutössen
after-noon
äbut-össen
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Uh Jartycucker xönitte
this language is truly incomprehensible
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if we are doing time now we will need words for before, hour, second, minute, year, month, week, the seasons and the word time itself
▶ №14200918[Quote]>>14200955
>>14200899Finally, now to midnight.
▶ №14200919[Quote]
up
▶ №14200955[Quote]
>>14200918Wait, shit, this needs the word middle first.
▶ №14200971[Quote]>>14201031
>>14200899abut nocht
midnight
▶ №14201011[Quote]>>14201058>>14201551
Second > Sek
Minute > Sekigge
Hour > hoër
Week > irmilären
▶ №14201031[Quote]>>14201551
>>14200971Thank you for the reference.
midnight → düsrenüsmiddle(mid)-nightdüsre-nüs ▶ №14201109[Quote]>>14201138
>>14200046is there a list where you got those words or did you make those up here?
▶ №14201183[Quote]>>14201244
we need made the verb "to be" and do we make it irregular o algo
▶ №14201194[Quote]>>14201224
I would say bi because it sounds like mi which is the word for me but it looks like bi as in bisexual so idk what to make it
▶ №14201224[Quote]
>>14201194then we could do "bih"
▶ №14201244[Quote]>>14201283
>>14201183"to be" → werölThis maybe?
▶ №14201250[Quote]>>14201281
what do we use for plurals
▶ №14201262[Quote]
what if we used 'im at the end of plurals instead of s, like niggers would be nigger'im
▶ №14201283[Quote]
>>14201244we should probably make it 1 sylabble
▶ №14201291[Quote]>>14201313>>14201358
how about miës and replace the current word for is, juti with es. This makes the verb to be, miës, translate to me is. To change what person is saying they are, for example if you want to say he is this or he is that or whatever, you say Xhemës, cutting out the i of miës and putting in Xhe instead. The tenses still work the same doe.
▶ №14201313[Quote]>>14201331
>>14201291we don't have ë in the vowels doe
▶ №14201321[Quote]>>14201334>>14201392
>>14201281chatgpt:
⚠ New ambiguities caused by (s)
◾ 1. Is (s) always pronounced? / phonological rules?
If a noun ends in s, z, x, does (s) become:
-es
-is
or just -s?
Examples that need rules:
azuf (“brimstone”) → plural: azuf(s) → ??? (azufs? azufis?)
xhit (“it”) → plural: ??? (xhits? xhitis?)
Without rules, fluent use is uncertain.
▶ №14201331[Quote]
>>14201313shieet, forgot about that, I want to make the pronunciation easier doe. Perhaps
ye could be used instead of
ë, so the word is still pronounced similarly but it still obeys the grammatical rules
▶ №14201333[Quote]>>14201392
chatgpt:
2. Interaction with diminutive & augmentative
Which comes first?
little houses → xönitte(s) or xon(s)itte
big houses → xonigge(s) or xon(s)igge
The language needs to decide ordering:
root + diminutive/augmentative + plural
or
root + plural + diminutive/augmentative
Because different orders imply different meanings:
xönitte(s) = small houses
xon(s)itte = a plural group treated as a singular little cluster (very different meaning)
▶ №14201334[Quote]
>>14201321Fuck, welp, time to change the plurality rules.
▶ №14201342[Quote]>>14201392
chatgpt:
3. Pronoun plural still unclear
We have:
du (you)
dus (you plural)
But what about:
zhey(s)?
we? (1st person plural)
our?
Plural nouns are solved, but plural pronouns are incomplete.
▶ №14201353[Quote]
This is gemmy, however I think the accents should be removed.
Similarly I think it would be gemmy if we implemented a system where each letter is a sound and words are read exactly as written and written exactly as said. like in uhhh serbian or something
▶ №14201358[Quote]>>14201395>>14201534
>>14201291I am - Miyes
You are - Duyes
He is - Xeyes
She is - Xheyes
We are - Viyes(we is now vi o algo)
Ye are - Dusyes
They are - Theyyes(we can either remove extra y or make a new word for they)
▶ №14201366[Quote]
This is gemmy, however I think the accents should be removed.
Similarly I think it would be gemmy if we implemented a system where each letter is a sound and words are read exactly as written and written exactly as said. like in uhhh serbian or something
▶ №14201368[Quote]>>14201452
chatgpt:
Sentence types that still are not possible even with plural
Because the issues now are structural, not vocabulary.
Still impossibleMissing feature
“The women’s house”possession between nouns
“I can swim.”modality
“I am not sleeping.”verb negation
“If he comes, I will leave.”conditional
“I’m tired but happy.”conjunctions
“This house is bigger.”comparison system
“He left because he was angry.”causal linking
“The man the girl likes is tall.”embedded clauses
Plural alone does not fix these.
▶ №14201392[Quote]
>>14201321for this, words ending in consonants gain an
is for plural stuff, words ending in vowels gain just an
s>>14201333it comes after the last word, so it would be
xonigges>>14201342idk, add an ez or a z for pronouns or something?
▶ №14201395[Quote]
>>14201358nevermind the catbox one had the wrong version
so They are - Zheyes
▶ №14201425[Quote]
bump
▶ №14201437[Quote]
>>14201433whoops didn't mean to reply o algo
▶ №14201438[Quote]
OCS are always gemmy even if the jak itself isn't we should encourage teens to create things
▶ №14201452[Quote]>>14201480
>>14201368should we get started on these problems? It would be a good idea to make the language somewhat functional before moving on to expanding the vocabulary
▶ №14201480[Quote]
>>14201452grammar is kinda shaped around the vocab doe, like seeing do we have make it that we add -is to certain words for plurals for example
▶ №14201499[Quote]>>14201532>>14201534>>14203494
gpt:
Finalized plural rule (based on what you said)
Word ends in…Add…Example
consonant-isxon → xonis (“houses”)
vowel-spota → potas (“bellies”)
This applies whether the final consonant is s / z / x / t / k / r / etc.
So there is no special case for s / z / x endings — good, it keeps morphology simple.
Examples across endings
SingularPlural
pers (person)persis (people)
xon (house)xonis
futir (bird)futiris
gemil (blue) — if used as a noungemilis
xhit (it) — theoretical nounxhitis
day➡ärenärens
nüs (night)nüsis
pota (belly)potas
ia (place)ias
gere (hypothetical noun)geres
So now plural is fully defined and unambiguous.
—
❗ Next: How plural interacts with diminutive / augmentative suffixes
We need to lock this down because order of suffixes changes meaning.
The two meanings are:
MeaningStructureExample
Many small housesxon → xönitte → xönittes
A group of houses treated as one small thingxon → xonis → xonisisitte
The second meaning is niche and weird (like German “Häuschenchenchen”).
So:
For normal clarity, it is best to choose the first rule:
> root + -itte or -igge + plural
Unless you object, I will finalize it as:
NOUN + (DIMINUTIVE/augmentative) + (plural)
Example set:
xönitte → little house
xönitte(s) → little houses
xonigge → big house
xonigge(s) → big houses
State of the language after this update
Plural is now complete.
Remaining missing grammar categories:
Missing systemExample sentence not possible yet
Negation“I am not sleeping.”
Noun–noun possession“The boy’s dog.”
Modality“I can swim.”
Comparatives“This house is bigger.”
Conjunctions beyond and“I like her but she hates me.”
Conditional / hypothetical“If he goes, I will stay.”
Sentence linking / causality“He cried because he was hurt.”
Relative clauses“The man who lives here is my uncle.”
▶ №14201532[Quote]
>>14201499sounds good, we better get started on the other stuff doe
▶ №14201534[Quote]>>14201544>>14201546
>>14201499negation is somewhat done I believe
I am not sleeping - Mijes säge doru
>>14201358also I just realised we don't have y in the alphabet, so should I make Miyes to Mijes?
▶ №14201544[Quote]
>>14201534thats a pretty good idea
▶ №14201546[Quote]
>>14201534I agree as well.
▶ №14201551[Quote]>>14201562
>>14200754>>14200899>>14201011>>14201031>>14201306Am I the only ‘kiGOD around? Don’t get me wrong I know we need to be autism specialized to finish this project but I have homework to do
▶ №14201562[Quote]>>14201578
>>14201551I'm a 'kiGOD as well. I just want to make sure nobody else has submitted their edits to the 'ki page yet already, so there won't be any conflicting edits that could fuck up the page.
▶ №14201563[Quote]
Possesives are kind of done, it just says to add an er onto the end of a pronoun to turn it into a possesive in the 'ki so maybe it could be you add er onto pronouns ending with a consonant and der on prounouns ending with a vowel
▶ №14201578[Quote]>>14201587
>>14201562How about everytime someone wants to edit the 'ki, they let everyone know in the thread in advance, that way the page doesn't get fucked up
▶ №14201583[Quote]>>14201600
also just some quick common verbs
To do - Jart
To make - Kary
To go - Kosi
To get - Lünd
To give - Ilünd
To take - sünd
To have - zaher
▶ №14201587[Quote]>>14201612>>14201645
>>14201578Perfect. Additionally, for everything that's not already on the 'ki yet, repost it here so I can add it.
▶ №14201600[Quote]
>>14201583I'm going to add these common verbs to the 'ki right now.
▶ №14201612[Quote]>>14201621>>14201632
>>14201587Ok, I (Antimatter) will take a break from der ‘ki for 2 hours to
be a lazy little fuck catch up on assignments o algo
▶ №14201621[Quote]>>14201632
>>14201612Gotcha. I (GeneralAngryjak) will take over for 'ki edits in the meantime.
▶ №14201622[Quote]
Etele bufkosi am de Sharty
am is now on or something
▶ №14201637[Quote]>>14201640
>>14201632Formatted it wrong award
▶ №14201640[Quote]
>>14201637Awarded xerself award
▶ №14201645[Quote]
>>14201587negation is
säge which comes after the verb
▶ №14201651[Quote]>>14201657>>14202919
to make stuff compare, add er onto the end of nouns ending in a consonant and mer onto the end of nouns ending in a vowel.
▶ №14201657[Quote]>>14201677
>>14201651er is for possesive already doe I think
▶ №14201675[Quote]
Another new rule to mention, is that whenever the end of the day comes (ESTGOD) and most people are heading off for the night, or if a catty wipe spam is occurring, the thread will be 'chived, and everything new that's been added to the 'ki will be added to the new edition of the NuSoyish Dictionary and call it Ϫth Edition.
▶ №14201677[Quote]
>>14201657that is for verbs doe, we can use the same thing for nouns in a different way as well unless it happens to be extremely confusing
▶ №14201699[Quote]>>14201707>>14201771
a lot of english words have parts derived from latin right? what if we make our own, soy-latin, to derive our words from?
▶ №14201707[Quote]>>14201750>>14201770
>>14201699then we'll be making a second language
▶ №14201750[Quote]>>14201764
>>14201707we could still derive words from soyspeak doe, and that has words derived from spanish and russian. Soyish already has heavy English influences, it wouldn't be harmful to mix in a few other languages as well though
▶ №14201770[Quote]
>>14201707cant we combine it
▶ №14201771[Quote]
>>14201699gpt:
Yeah — that’s actually a real thing conlangs do, and it’s a power move if the goal is to make NuSoyish deeper, more expandable, and more consistent over time.
Right now, NuSoyish is working like Old English / Proto-Germanic:
simple root vocabulary
words built piece-by-piece
straightforward sound rules
But English becomes huge and expressive because it later absorbed a second vocabulary layer from Latin/French/Greek — giving us:
GermanicLatin-derived
helpassist
askrequest
riseascend
kinglyroyal
freedomliberty
brotherhoodfraternity
So if NuSoyish creates a “Soy-Latin” (a proto source language), it would give:
prestige / scholarly vocabulary
science / technology / philosophy words
multi-syllable words that sound intentional rather than random
a way to expand without ruining the sound rules of base Soyish
How it would work
Soy-Latin would be the ancestor language, whose root forms get reshaped when borrowed into NuSoyish.
Example (fake demo):
Soy-Latin: carminare = to burn
Soyish root: karm = fire (simplified borrowing)
Then NuSoyish derives new words from the Soy-Latin stem carmin- when needed:
Word typeNuSoyish formMeaning
root nounkarmfire
adjectivekarmegfiery / passionate
verbnuw-carminto burn / to ignite
agent nouncarminerburner / flame-wielder
tool nouncarminoxlighter / torch
abstractcarminiacombustion / burning phenomenon
So instead of inventing a random new word every time, everything derives from the same stem.
Why this is smart
It gives NuSoyish:
internal history (world-building effect)
consistency (words fit together instead of sounding random)
expansion without chaos
technical vocabulary without English influence
You could even decide:
Soy-Latin appears in science, magic, religion, academia, etc.
NuSoyish appears in everyday life
Exactly like English →:
“blood” (Germanic)
“vascular / circulation / hematology” (Latin/Greek)
Example categories Soy-Latin could enable
FieldNeed
biology/anatomymuscle, organism, respiration
physicsmotion, gravity, energy
mathematicsfunction, vector, magnitude
philosophytruth, reality, virtue
governmentsenate, decree, supreme
religionsacred, divine, spirit
Without Soy-Latin, these would require hundreds of new unrelated roots.
How to build Soy-Latin efficiently
You don’t need 2000 words — just a few dozen root clusters.
Examples of proto-roots you could define:
Proto rootCore meaningFields it could expand into
vok-speak / voicevocal, invoke, provoke, advocate
grav-heavy / weightgravity, grave, aggravate
sol-sun / lightsolar, desolate, consolidate
viv-liferevive, survive, vivid
etc.
Then map them to NuSoyish by sound-law rules.
What to decide before launching Soy-Latin
You only need to settle 3 design questions:
1️⃣ Sound structure:
Should Soy-Latin sound:
smooth Latin (solare, vivare, dominus)
or
harsher Germanic/Slavic (solanik, vrevan, domnar)?
2️⃣ Relation to NuSoyish:
When borrowed, should Soy-Latin stems:
change into Soyish pronunciations
or stay mostly intact for prestige effect?
3️⃣ Morphology:
Will Soy-Latin use:
roots + suffixes only, or
conjugations/declensions (optional)?
If you want to try it
The easiest way to start Soy-Latin is:
Pick 20–30 proto-roots that cover very broad concepts
(life / death / time / energy / mind / hand / shape / matter / motion / etc.)
Define how they transform when borrowed into regular NuSoyish
Start generating derivatives only when needed (not all at once)
If you want, I can generate:
a Proto Soy-Latin phonology
30–50 roots with glosses
automatic borrowing → Soyish sound-change rules
example derived vocabulary
Just tell me what vibe you want for Soy-Latin:
A) Roman / clerical / academic (solar, vivare, magnus)
B) Greek-ish / scientific (thermos, logos, psyche)
C) Old Norse / Gothic-ish (soljan, vigr, magnath)
D) Completely original new aesthetic
or E) A mashup of several (my recommendation — unique but usable).
Reply with A / B / C / D / E and I’ll generate the starting Proto Soy-Latin table.
▶ №14201789[Quote]>>14201886
lets just build soy-latin off the basic stuff we have already then make nusoyish from that
▶ №14201831[Quote]>>14201842>>14201866>>14201957
Do you want to pause the development of soyish in favour of soy-Latin?
▶ №14201842[Quote]
>>14201831no I don't want to pause
>Your IP address currently does not meet the requirements to vote on polls. ▶ №14201866[Quote]
>>14201831nah, I don't want to pause either
▶ №14201886[Quote]>>14201916
>>14201789nigga we can work on soy-latin after we get at least the basic skeleton of soyish done, it would be pretty gemmy if you did it yourself but it would be quite a bit of work for one 'teen
▶ №14201916[Quote]
>>14201886I don't really see the point as we won't really if use it afterwards aside from making a few words
▶ №14201937[Quote]>>14201964
What is the use of this anyways
Is this supposed to be a new version of soyspeak
▶ №14201940[Quote]>>14202001
we should get back to working on the comparitives and other shieet
▶ №14201957[Quote]>>14201975>>14202001
>>14201831soy-latin sounds awesome doe
▶ №14201964[Quote]>>14201990
>>14201937its to make soyspeak heckin incomprehensibler and also because it is fun
▶ №14201975[Quote]
>>14201957I agree but that would be a whole other challenge, it would be easier to combine our efforts on one thing at a time
▶ №14201990[Quote]>>14202011
>>14201964It’d be funny to slow-burn this into normal soyspeak
▶ №14202011[Quote]
>>14201990geg imagine someone comes here from chinktok and sees a bunch of autists speaking in a random conlang
▶ №14202012[Quote]>>14202062
Today -> usären
Tomorrow -> nahären
Yesterday -> egären
▶ №14202047[Quote]
Usären etele bufkosi am de Sharty
▶ №14202062[Quote]>>14202135
>>14202012I'm gonna add that to the 'ki right now.
▶ №14202135[Quote]>>14202146
>>14202062Submitted, now I'm just waiting for it to go through
▶ №14202146[Quote]
>>14202135Alright it's added.
▶ №14202295[Quote]
Bvmp
▶ №14202459[Quote]
Bvmp
▶ №14202661[Quote]
Bvmp
▶ №14202815[Quote]
brap
▶ №14202878[Quote]>>14202894>>14202919
what do we need to work on again
▶ №14202894[Quote]>>14202934
>>14202878Finish up colors
▶ №14202919[Quote]
>>14201651>to make stuff compare, add er onto the end of nouns ending in a consonant and mer onto the end of nouns ending in a vowel.>>14202878Do we also work on this?
▶ №14202934[Quote]>>14202965>>14202975>>14202976
>>14202894what colours do we have left
▶ №14202965[Quote]
>>14202934White ➡ hälot
Black ➡ nergr
Brown ➡ jiit
Purple ➡ blorp
Red ➡ saz
Yellow ➡ ebrüt
Blue ➡ gemil
Green ➡ mülgz
Orange ➡ fröt
▶ №14202975[Quote]>>14203012
>>14202934Pink and maybe another color if I remember correctly
▶ №14202976[Quote]
>>14202934We have the most obvious ones
White ➡ hälot
Black ➡ nergr
Brown ➡ jiit
Purple ➡ blorp
Red ➡ saz
Yellow ➡ ebrüt
Blue ➡ gemil
Green ➡ mülgz
Orange ➡ fröt
Only 16,777,207 to go
▶ №14202982[Quote]>>14202995
this language sounds fucking retarded
▶ №14202995[Quote]>>14203024
>>14202982We’re all fucking autists what do you expect
▶ №14203012[Quote]>>14203036>>14203084
>>14202975pink should be quöt for quote
▶ №14203024[Quote]>>14203032>>14203065
>>14202995be more autistic and learn linguistics maybe?
▶ №14203036[Quote]
>>14203012what if quote meant rape because quote is a rapist?
▶ №14203040[Quote]
>>14203032i look like and say this
▶ №14203044[Quote]>>14203050
>>14195971Gem has no etymological root in gemerald?
▶ №14203050[Quote]
>>14203044good and gem should just be the same word
▶ №14203065[Quote]>>14203076
>>14203024Autists are just as likely to not be able to speak as to be experts in linguistics so it averages out
▶ №14203084[Quote]
>>14203012I'm gonna add this to the 'ki right now, hold up
▶ №14203123[Quote]
>>14202001what if we base the language of germanic languages and then make it sound like latin by doing soundshifts?
▶ №14203170[Quote]>>14203185>>14203194
How about vegfarnergr for immigrants? Quite literally "very far black", a literal description like the German word antibabypillen or Swedish antispinnsystemet?
▶ №14203185[Quote]
>>14203170>vegI meant opposite, but the point still stands.
▶ №14203194[Quote]>>14203287
>>14203170how do you pronounce gr in that?
▶ №14203287[Quote]>>14203372
>>14203194Standard /g/, with a voiced alveolar trill /r/.
▶ №14203430[Quote]
Bvmp
▶ №14203443[Quote]>>14203681
would it not be pronounce like vegfarnigger
▶ №14203494[Quote]
>>14201499I'm going to work on this
▶ №14203564[Quote]
Bvmp
▶ №14203635[Quote]>>14203716>>14203848
soyish needs modal verbs, so we need translations for
can
shall
may
must
will
Other verbs we could translate
ought
dare
need
These all are verbs that change the way other verbs work, for example, instead of saying I go to the store, adding one of these auxiliary verbs changes it to I will go to the store
▶ №14203681[Quote]
>>14203443its the easiest way to pronounce it i guess
▶ №14203716[Quote]
>>14203635these all need negative terms as well
▶ №14203918[Quote]
>>>14203913
if someone knows basic decryption they can understand this btw
▶ №14203936[Quote]
to put them into a negative context, simply add un onto the word, for example, can't is unmahül
▶ №14203951[Quote]
>>14203913Adding these to the 'ki real quick right now.
▶ №14204080[Quote]>>14204102>>14204125
Any word with w will be translated to vv or v.
Thats all i have tbh
▶ №14204093[Quote]>>14204146
>>14204025We'll try to finish that today. If not, I'll post that image in the next thread so we can work on it tomorrow.
▶ №14204102[Quote]
>>14204025>>14204080What do you think of ITV's suggestion?
▶ №14204125[Quote]>>14204179
>>14204080Good idea, we should do it where it is feasible but not for every single word. Maybe we could completely eliminate the letter W and replace it with v geg
▶ №14204146[Quote]
>>14204093We should do different columns to make it easier or something
▶ №14204179[Quote]
>>14204125That was what i was thinking, the letter w will be almost nonexistent
▶ №14204282[Quote]
Bvmp
▶ №14204334[Quote]>>14204372
after > püjik
although > doe
and > uhnd (already in the dictionary
as > verg
as if > ika verg
as long as > hila verg
as soon as > mert verg
because > cuz
before > büfen
but > al
even if > ika regu
even though > doe regu
ever since > atran üset
every time > sen üsten
for > ter
I removed some of the snca conjunction phrases to make it easier, I'll try do them tomorrow
▶ №14204372[Quote]>>14204440
>>14204334Adding it to the 'ki right now.
▶ №14204440[Quote]>>14204471
>>14204372Submitted, waiting for it to be accepted
▶ №14204441[Quote]
Go VP
▶ №14204471[Quote]>>14204506
>>14204440Got approved award
▶ №14204506[Quote]>>14204549>>14204556
>>14204471About to edit the 'ki page again, forgot to separate them from the article list above unless I'm a retardGOD and they still fall underneath that category
▶ №14204549[Quote]>>14204557
>>14204506When you’re finished tell me so I can make another edit
▶ №14204556[Quote]>>14204598
>>14204506I'll fix it o algo
▶ №14204557[Quote]>>14204581
>>14204549Just submitted the edit or something
▶ №14204581[Quote]
>>14204557And I just submitted my own
▶ №14204616[Quote]>>14204627>>14204695>>14205110
>>14204598also marge weren't we gonna use sage for negatives
▶ №14204627[Quote]>>14204640
>>14204616Oh I forgot about that, you guys still wanna do it?
▶ №14204639[Quote]>>14204756
However > talevtü
if > ika
only if > ika juket
or > den
or else > smerta den
otherwise > oduscüm
since > astran
so > mos
so that > dat mos
still > gitüp
than > dana
that > data
therefore > itam-cadü
though > doe
till > ima
unless sagip
until > imap
▶ №14204640[Quote]
>>14204627Unless we use sage as a word for “neuter”
▶ №14204695[Quote]>>14204706
>>14204616I think that is good and will make things easier, since there is no soft g in the alphabet we have to keep that in mind
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>>14204706maybe saje and sage can be used interchangeably to mean the same thing and you pick which one to use based on how easy it is to pronounce with the rest of your sentence
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>>14204756its all conjunctions
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>>14204756under conjuctions
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>>14204756I already did under a new section called “Conditionals”
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>>14204770>>14204771Actually conjunctions is better doe
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by the way muh edits are auto approved so it might be quicker than waiting to be approved
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I'll finish the last few ones, they all start in w so it'll be easy enough
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Updated because I’m a selfish little fuck and won’t let you guys do any edits
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>>14204756wait is x pronounced as ch in loch or just normal x or zh
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>>14204874so hard h o algo
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whatever > votüset
whenever > venüset
wherever > verüset
whether > veder
whichever > vichüset
while > viyl
who > bo
whoever > boüset
whom > borik
whose > boder
why > varüm
yet > jata
vot can be replaced with marge
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>>14204616un was only meant to make modal verbs negative, so putting un on a normal word would not work but putting it on a word like can or shall turns it into can't and shan't
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up
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marge why are there two conjunctions subsections in the 'ki
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>>14205194Oh raisin, you able to fix that and add the new list you posted?
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>>14205246I don't know too much about ki editing but I'll try. Could you 'chive the thread? I think we're done for today
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>>14205270Yeah, I'll do it right now. I'll also take everything on the 'ki and make the 4th Edition of the NuSoyish Dictionary.
