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I wish this subreddit was more about discussion and less about spotlighting people harassing the other side.

i wish this subreddit would speak about AI in general and not monstly/only about generative AI

I don't really think there's much to debate outside of that. If someone says they don't want life saving AI machines in hospitals, they're just a dick

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So lets make it straight ai bros were saying first that Antis are just teens/kid but then that argument didnt sound that well so now they say that they groom teens/kids so how is it finally goddammit antis are kids or do they groom them?

Do they even know what grooming is at the first place beacuse if they do they accuse other side for literally manipulate kids to explicit them sexually without any proof and they way how they throw such a words without any hesitation just to dehumanize the other side beacuse they didnt like AI is just disgusting

if you don't believe in the harassment, then you are the part of the problem. it literally happens almost every time when someone is accused of using ai, whether they actually did it or not. you don't even need to search that much to see it.

and we are not saying that anti-ai people are the only bad ones, no, just the major part of them are like that, and you shouldn't be ignorant of those who do so and dismiss it like it never happens. i personally never saw a pro-ai person harassing someone into using ai, but i already at least saw around a dozen of people being harassed into not using ai, and i do not even spend that much time on the internet.

People with anti-AI opinions have definitely harassed people. But there's also plenty of people with such opinions that have not. This level of sheer hatred is absurd and dangerous. This is the LGBTQ groomer panic all over again.

The problem is just going to keep being the current state of anti-ai spaces, whether people want to hear it or not. They speak for anti-ai with the loudest voice whilst being blatantly responsible for every various pro-ai complaint. It's been a net negative for all reasonable portions of both sides. Merely having an anti-ai opinion gets you caught in the crossfire targeted towards the literal activity of these groups, being pro-ai gets you directly harassed by these groups but any attempt to point it out gets called strawmanning and is met with all kinds of mixed faith both-sides-ing that obfuscates the actual issue.

LGBTQ groomer panic

Antis are not LGBTQ or any other discriminated minority.

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i do agree that the harassment shouldn’t happen, but the “grooming teens into the ideology” and “the next school shooter will be a furry fandom kid” parts are just wrong.

i agree with this, and if you wanted to make a post about this person going too far with arguments, then you should have pointed that out. just a little hint if you will make more posts, because the one you made sounds like you dismiss the issue overall.

and also, sensor all the names in the future if you will post on this subreddit, because otherwise your post will be removed. read the rules before posting.

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Not really. Almost any regular on anti ai sub also browses teenage subs. They're either impressionable teens or groomers. 

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sensor usernames...

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cool, I guess I'm a groomer now too lmfao.

gotta love the random ass furry hate thrown in at the end there too for no reason. Most school shooters aren't fans of us, btw, they're mostly the type who watch Nick Fuentes

Please remember rule 9, as your post is likely to be deleted by mods as is

pro AIs calling anyone a groomer is crazy work

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SO much projection. Oof!

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"this person cant be real."

What the hell... are you real for asking this?!?!

The statements are true. We are at terrorist attack number #2 already. Pick up a book.

the grooming part is not true though.

In what way is it not true?

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Do you know the definition of it?

Maybe we should say "conditioning" or something if it offends you, there are many types of brainwashing kids were going through in our generation (yes, the adults are still classified as kids), fortunately the next generation already shows signs of a reaction to harm.

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We all know all muslims are bad since a group of them do bad stuff.

Generalising one small part of a group and applying it to the whole group is just silly

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A big problem is that people here seems to think there is some sort of «anti ai movement»? As far ad I know, most «anti» are just people who are critical to AI, and holds a group of opinions that overlap. If you think «anti’s» are organised in any way, then you might have wrongly estimated your opponent

Its similar to how the far right thinks that Antifa is an international hierarchially organised Group. Well given that theres a huge overlap between AI bros and the far right im not really surprised.

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Bruh how are they even labeling anti-ai as a “movement.”

AI is the movement, AI is what is threatening the livelihoods of artists. Wanting artists who already have a hard time making money to be able to make a living is not a “movement,” it’s a fight we’ve been fighting for the last hundred years or so. Acting like the status quo is a movement is beyond delusional, I really hope that person is ragebaiting

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I wonder what you'll do once we have an actual school shooting as described.

Anti behave online as part of a purity cult, and these never end well. You can go to the anti subs and see them agreeing with each other that people who like AI aren't even humans. It also attracts mentally vulnerable children, as it can be seen right here in this very sub, almost daily.

Another cursory look at the anti subs will show people mentioning sh and suicidal ideation because AI.

How do you think that shit will end if not in blood?

We're talking about people who openly wish death on a group of people and call it a joke. Yeah that person absolutely can be real.

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Censor usernames next time