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 14093021[Quote] [Voice Chat]>>14093222>>14093229>>14093342

If you could outright manipulate your own fate and permanently sacrifice good things like settling down, starting a family etc in exchange for worldly power, would you?
In this scenario, once sacrificed, the good thing is GUARANTEED to never happen to you

 14093033[Quote]>>14093041>>14093049

Yes because if you have worldly power you have everything you want and you can have a girlfriend without starting a family and oreos

 14093041[Quote]>>14093071

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 14093042[Quote]

If I had worldly power I would just play troonhou or something

 14093049[Quote]>>14093081

>>14093033
Would you sacrifice further, if it was proportional?

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 14093081[Quote]>>14093148

>>14093049
Depends by what you mean by further

 14093091[Quote]

depends on what the powers are

 14093148[Quote]>>14093170

>>14093081
Would you sever any possibility of having any relationship with a woman in exchange for whatever the nobel prize equivalent of your job is.
Mind you, the sacrifice completely cuts it away from your fate and is irreversible.

 14093170[Quote]>>14093185

>>14093148
I wouldn't have a job so no

 14093185[Quote]>>14093234

>>14093170
What if the sacrifice just gives the raw strength or intellect to achieve it?

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>>14093021 (OP)
yes, there's a nonzero chance that I won't have those things in the first place

 14093229[Quote]

>>14093021 (OP)
Sure. I have a 0 chance anyway to have those in the first place.

 14093234[Quote]

>>14093185
If you mean achieving the Nobel prize from any job then nah because I just want to be unemployed while the feds give me paychecks every month like they do for disabled people

 14093308[Quote]

What about one that permanently severs you from any fate and blocks you from every single possible thing fate could ever give you, in exchange for giving you the strength to live without fate or causality?

 14093342[Quote]>>14093373

>>14093021 (OP)
No
Suffering is necassary.
If you do not suffer, you do not grow, you do not make progress.
you can be given a billion dollars and if you are not disciplined, you will lose it all in less than 10 years.
If you take 20 to get a billion dollars, you will only make more after that.

 14093373[Quote]>>14093390

>>14093342
Isn’t it more efficient to just slice my causality apart even for weak deals, just to have certainty and focus again?

 14093390[Quote]>>14093428

>>14093373
nigga what are you talking about

 14093428[Quote]>>14093469

>>14093390
Completely severing myself from causality (AKA, fate, and far reaching results of any action good or bad) for the sake of an unchanging life with nothing except existence

 14093469[Quote]>>14093500

>>14093428
This is probably just death I imagine
Free or servitude and choice, how is this even living?

 14093500[Quote]>>14093520

>>14093469
It doesn’t matter whether it’s life or death, it just matters that it can strip everything away so that there’s just will left. It simplifies things into its most linear, fundamental form, and could possibly be the best form of existence for it.

 14093520[Quote]>>14093556

>>14093500
Alright this take is very based I have to admit
I don't know what this would be like, I can't even really imagine what it would be like. I don't know if it would even be enjoyable or if I would miss the stuff you have to do to survive

 14093522[Quote]

If I can sacrifice multiple things for multiple worldly powers, then sure. I would sacrifice love, family, children, and even my body to have certain things. I would want to have ethereal gnosis, exist for eternity, and completely transcend humanity. I would be like a god

 14093556[Quote]

>>14093520
Mind you, I don’t even know whether this should even be taken. If causality is necessary for certain types of existence; i.e. endless war and violence, endless joy and despair, endless scheming and ambition, it might be too much of a price to bear. This type of ritual is something I could ask God’s help with, and could even maybe be done. It’s also the exact ritual that made me make the thread just thinking about it.

 14093561[Quote]>>14093640

Yes because starting a family is a meme

 14093640[Quote]

>>14093561
Then if you will this, if your truths refuse to sink, simply speak the words. ‘I sacrifice’.

 14093722[Quote]

Yes, 100%



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