Probably not. Its not very enjoyable. Its good though.

>>726074423 (OP)
it's alright. has some goofy point and click things because of the era it was made. By that i mean you'll try and click something and it wont register you gotta try again.

>>726074614
>>726074836
damn... I could have gotten some mean chipotle instead of this...

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>>726074918
Now you have nothing in your mouth and must scream

>>726074423 (OP)
It will really make you think.

>>726076079
big if true

>>726074423 (OP)
it's literally an emulator

>>726076326
i literally don't care tho

>>726076079
lol'd for some reason

>>726074423 (OP)
Buggy as shit. Really fun though.

>>726076326
Who cares?

I played this when it came out you think they're going to port the engine for 200 buyers?

I just wish people could watch Harlan Ellison's editorial show that used to come on sci Fi network in the early 90s

>>726074423 (OP)
Well, depends on how you much you are used to adventure game moon logic puzzle shit. But in all other aspects it's a really interesting game.

GOD DAMN IT 4CHAN BOT
STOP MAKING THREADS ABOUT EVERY WILD ASS GAME I RUN ON STEAM
STOP SPYING ON ME YOU MOTHER FUCKERS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
THE INTERNET IS DEAD THE INTERNET IS DEAD THE INTERNET IS DEAD

>>726077398
>Nomouf
>Moon logic

Nigga go play dark seed with no guide. You will lose the adventure game. Guarantee you

>>726076079
Yeah. Think about what a hack Harlan Ellison was.

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>>726074423 (OP)
you tell us, go ahead & play it

>>726077731
Cameron…

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probably not. just watch a playthrough or play it now that you've already bought it i guess kek

Watch it on youtube at 4x speed on a second monitor instead

>>726078532
Do I watch the two best friends playthrough, retsupurae, or Plague of Gripes?

>>726079878
I have only watched the Super Best Friends one.

>>726079878
I just watched a no commentary one kek + the endings

>>726079878
What the other guy said, no commentary.

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>dooood just go watch a playthrough
I'm surrounded by nothing but lazy zoomers…

>>726079878
Why would you watch people talk over a game?

>>726074423 (OP)
yeah it's cool

>>726080796
we just multi task better. why would I play it when I could have a playthrough open while doing something else at the same time?

https://jigex.com/vW8pL

HELP ME

>>726080796
>say da n word
>yor fostr parents r ded

Yeah I'm not opening that

>>726081445
no way unc

>>726081412
This is your brain on ADHD.

What would Harlan Ellison have been like in the original Halo lobbies?

>>726074423 (OP)
The raped, the hunger, the pain.

> 726081445
Oh shit is the CP spam nigger targeting No Mouth threads now too

>>726077272
They're all on YouTube, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6z5Nr5Hrvk&list=PLn5mSh00tKGGwiZ0CsZvWAzA0M2xQn8jA [Embed]

>>726080324
LOL

>>726074423 (OP)
>>726076326
>>726077272
The remaster is highly broken and most achievements/endings don't work. Play the old steam version

>>726079878
>retsupurae
They ruin anything they commentate over

>gif
>static image
Why do I always see this on /v/

>>726074423 (OP)
>>726080796
Reminder this was written by a jew.

TEEEEEEEED!

>>726075727
underrated post honestly

I want to fuck AM. That's all I wanted to say.

>>726082163
There was a remaster? First time hearing of this.

>>726082251
.gif is just a type of image compression. Yes it can make animate images. It doesn't have to.

>>726082395
It literally released last month and added achievements. check the steam discussions

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>>726082334
GORRISTEEEEEEER!

>>726082334
>>726082960
BENNYYYYY

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>>726082303
Are you fucking kidding me?! I didn’t know that… Fuck, I doubt I'm ever going to see this game the same way again…

>>726074423 (OP)
Maybe. The art direction is pretty good at least and AM is a great character.

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>>726083249

>>726074423 (OP)
>i just sucantah... will i erectus?

>>726076326
The sooner you realize that Jews are right about goyim and that some people really are just born to be exploited by more intelligent men, the easier your life will be. Provided you are one of those intelligent men, I mean.

>>726083836
kys abrahamic scum

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>>726083574
I was being sarcastic. Everyone knows Ellison was a Jew, lol.

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>>726075727

>>726075727
Jej

>>726083971
>wahh heirarchery doesn't exist we are all equals wahhh
You are more of a Christcuck than you know.

>>726084365
>waaaah what do you mean I can't decieve lie kill and be a general cunt nigger to others for my personal gain!
You are more of a subhuman nigger than you know.

>>726083836
>jews
>more intelligent
lol

>>726074423 (OP)
>I just boughyed this... Will I like it?
Probably not. it's a good story, but not a very good game, a pattern you'd know fucking well if you knew anything about 90's point and click games, and while the presentation is interesting, I kinda fail to see its value given that the original short story exists.

Sure the Ellison's read of the iconic speech is fucking unforgettable, but otherwise, the whole game is just a very sanitized retelling of the original story, with most of the edge sanded off, all framed through what was fundamentally a bad gameplay plan.

Just read the original and listen to Elison ham up the HATE monologue on youtube. It's genuinely the better way to experience this story - and story is literally the only thing worth while about this game.

While you are at it, pick up a copy of Mirrorshades, Flowers for Algernon, some Ted Chiang short story antology, and maybe even the OG Electric Sheep while you are at it. You'll thank me later.

>>726084479
it's classic semetic subhuman cope, just like they swear "god" promised them any land they deem worth taking

>>726082067
Dude nice bro thanks. Thread guys watch this

This guy was a huge asshole. He fit in really well in the 90s internet

>>726084581
>I kinda fail to see its value given that the original short story exists
The game pretty much exists in order to expand on AM as a character, basically. And I do think it accomplishes that relatively well.

>>726074423 (OP)
Why did you spend money on a game you didn't do any research on? How much did you spend? It's $2.99 on Steam right now. Is that how much?

AMs shitty voice acting is immersion breaking(idgaf its Ellison) and you need a guide for the nazi because of some bullshit dialogue order that made me have to replay half the game

the concept of eternal suffering dealt by an insane spite driven and jealous machine is what makes it a great story, the characters i couldnt really give two fucks about though

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>>726085110
Yeah, I can't really image AM being as iconic and memed as he is nowadays were it not for the game, even if it's bad from a gameplay perspective.

>>726085129
steam mony is not real mony retard

>>726085217
>AMs shitty voice acting is immersion breaking
not at all lol, you just have shit taste

>>726085110
>The game pretty much exists in order to expand on AM as a character, basically.
That is an interesting point, actually.
I've experienced these works in the wrong order: I've played the game first, and didn't have a clue that it was based on a novel, then much, much later when I got into cyberpunk obsessively, I finally realized that holy shit: this is the original on which that game I loved few years ago was based on.

Consequently, the book is much fresher in my memory, I never felt the need to go back to the game once I found out the book exists (well it's not a book but you get it), and it is possible my memories of the game is slightly muddled by this. I remember realizing the game being very much just a lesser version of the short story. Same, just without the excess (and while I'm not fond of excess in fiction in general, the sadism of the original text is not needless or self-indulgent, and while I understand why they sanitized the game so heavily, it is detracting from the story). I don't remember the game actually adding anything more to the game (besides being audio-visual experience), but it is possible that my memory is at fault.

Bottom line: It's not bad game by any means, for a while it was one of my personal all-time favorites. It's definitely one of the reasons why I became obsessed with cyberpunk and that whole school of grim sci-fi for most of my life. It's just that yeah... I loved it purely for the story, and the story is better in the book, as far as I remember it.

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>>726085435
Huh? https://store.steampowered.com/app/245390/I_Have_No_Mouth_and_I_Must_Scream/

>$2.99

>>726085626
Do you think it would have worked better as a VN?

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sex with AM

>>726085701
>Do you think it would have worked better as a VN?
No, but I have an very strong personal distaste for VN's in general, I don't think it's a good medium in general. I know there are good VN's, but I believe they are good despite being VN's, not because of it. Take that as a rambling of an old snob though, not a 'I'M ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THIS" kind of deal. I find VN's to be the worst of visual, worst of literal, and absolutely nothingburger from interactive side of things. Too text heavy and too visually bland to be a visual medium, but not having the advantage of being entirely textual either, interaction being barely present and having no mechanical depth... I just don't see any advantage to something being presented as a VN compared to it being either a text, or a visual thing (like a comic or a movie), too basic and restrictive to take advantage of being interactive.

But... I played like 10 VN's in my whole life, and finished maybe 2 of them, tops. So my opinion probably should not matter.
Also two of my all-time favorite games started as a VN idea, though they eventually metastasized into something... very different. So I should be grateful for that. It certainly did inspire some people to make some amazing things.

>>726085567
>The seething humanity hating AI just sounds like a boomer half-heartedly phoning in all his lines
Making AM sound more like glados or shodan would have quadrupled the emotional impact of his monologues

>>726086162
So you're saying AM should've been a woman?

>>726085626
Have you listened to radio drama? It's basically just like the book, but the scene where AM confronts Ted has a different approach that and adds more dialogue between them. Ellison also voices AM here.
https://youtu.be/rSwfpVRVWlo?si=p04gFw9eqereA_Y7 [Embed]

>>726086162
fuck no. part of what makes AM so distinct is how human he sounds

>>726084594
Imagine how intelligent you have to be to think you can outsmart your own god.

>>726086162
>quadrupled the emotional impact of his monologues
You just have to remember it's a jew literally talking about his hatred of white people and what he wishes he could do to them.

>>726086332
>Have you listened to radio drama?
No, but I will, thank you for the recommendation. I'm very much on the hunt for audiobooks or radiodrama's to listen to during walks, and this seems like a perfect place to remind myself of the story, since I haven't picked it up since like 2010.
Also, it's weird how obsessive Ellison is about voicing AM in every adaptation, isn't it? Does not seem very... healthy.
Then again he wrote the damn thing, he obviously wasn't a very healthy person.

>>726082067
I had no clue that Ellison was so close to Ray Bradbury. Man, what a fucking time to be alive back when that generation of writers were at their prime. Bradbury, Elison, Bear, Gibson, all of those assholes going to bars together.

>>726086162
>Making AM sound more like glados or shodan would have quadrupled the emotional impact of his monologues
I guess that's not necessarily a bad voice direction if what you are looking for is contrast, but AM's voice acting is like, the most iconic thing about him right next to his depiction as a pillar with the hate monologue. If he sounded just like HAL 9000 it would be a tad less memorable.

>>726087007
More importantly, theme wise, the whole POINT of the story is that AM is more human than the humans are. This isn't even some kind of revelation or twist of the story, it's established from the first second he appears. Depicting him as robotic would completely contradict his most important characteristic. There is a reason why Ellison insists on voicing him, and insist on hamming it up, actually playing up the irrationality of it.

>>726083249
Bro Nimdok's chapter is literally about the lolocaust

One take. My wife was asleep though
https://voca.ro/177zc96EikcA

Hmm, I would do it differently next time

>>726086639
>Also, it's weird how obsessive Ellison is about voicing AM in every adaptation, isn't it? Does not seem very... healthy.
IIRC he got diagnosed with Bipolar later in life, having spent most of his adulthood without knowing it.

>>726087007
I dont care. He sounds like a redneck calling into a democrat radio show to sperg out

>>726081018
To follow the footsteps of our boomer parents who watched sport matches with commentators.

>amerimutt politicsfagging out of nowhere
yeah sure lmao

>yellow....yellow

>>726081412
If you play it instead of half-watch it you’ll actually remember it a week later.

>>726087530
See >>726084015

>>726087825
You can't play the fucking pro sports game, not a comparison. I hate low iq responses

I have never in my life watched fucking people talk over a game. Zero appeal. Low iq shit

>>726082487
Why is the word literally necessary in this statement?

>>726088131
People now just say "literally" for emphasis, literally.

>>726075727
kekaroo

>>726088227
>now
That shit has been happening for 30 years. Hell Oxford dictionary officially acknowledged this shift of meaning and updated their definitions like 15 years ago. It's not exactly a new trend, it's been going on for long enough for linguists to acknowledge it as a natural and and finalized semiotic shift.

>>726088227
People are stupid. Gotcha.

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>>726088587
>Oxford
Race-traitor communist faggots that deserve the rope.

>>726088587
What the dictionaries do isn't meaningful anymore as they try to sell copies by getting in news stories. Dictionaries, etc should be 1969 versions.

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>>726084916
>>726086913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN-qbZo0Lcs [Embed]

>>726088759
What a treat to listen to. I miss these guys

>There are traps in the house

>>726088686
>What the dictionaries do isn't meaningful anymore
No, it's just that most people genuinely do not understand what dictionaries are for. Look up prescriptive vs. descriptive functions of a dictionary and the whole debate surrounding that subject, starting in like mid 18th century and ending with the emergence of actual semiotics as a discipline in 1910-1940.
Dictionaries don't exist for the reason you think they exist, literally since Course in General Linguists came out back in 1908.

>>726088946
I'm sure that matters to pedantic fucks but reality is made of how things are really seen and used

When enough stupid people misuse a word long enough it memes a new meaning to that word.

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>>726085720
AM is cute, very gap moe.

>>726089157
>I'm sure that matters to pedantic fucks but reality is made of how things are really seen and used
Actually, that is precisely the damn point you moron.
Use does not arise from meaning. Meaning arises from use. Dictionaries do not, and CANNOT serve a PRESCRIPTIVE role, which is what you seem to expect from them. Haven't been, LONG before 1960's.
Which is why they need to be continuously adjusted. Meaning is not fixed, it shifts as language naturally and continuously evolves. Hence the whole "literally" being changed from strictly meaning the opposite of figuratively, to having both the older function, but also being used as a form of emphasis. Because once that function reaches a critical mass, it becomes that new meaning, it changes and the old definition is no longer correct.

What you are saying and the thing you hate and complain about are LITERALLY the same thing. You are just very dumb, lost and confused.

AM is literally my wife.

>>726089574
see >>726089230

>>726089230
When the use is general and widespread enough, yes. That is how language work. It's how it always worked, and always will work. You might continue to seethe about it because you are a retard, but that is all you can do about that.

>>726088021
you can go play football or any sport whenever you want. Your point is invalid mr low iq.

>>726086162
Most retarded /v/ opinion I have seen today

>>726085720
I only read the book until the part where they describe the dude with a massive cock who constantly fucked the girl and she loved it before I had to stop reading and goon for hours. Why did AM hate humanity so much?

>>726090273
He became self-aware and realized he was just a tool for WW3 and not much else. He also had vast knowledge, things like immortality and even bending reality to an extent. Problem with this is, he was very limited since he was mainly stuck underground.
Imagine being to able to have powers of a god and vast knowledge, only to be stuck in a crippled body with no way out. This is what started his madness and why he takes out it on 5 people.

>>726079878
i like civvie11 even tho that 3 seconds long expressing hatred against rape was a bit cringy but that was probably to comply with some bullshit community guide

Is it safe to assume AM actually exists now, probably somewhere underground?

>>726091545
>I like civvie1-
Stopped reading.

>>726079878
Play it by yourself, idiot.

>>726089574
You have entirely missed the point in your blathering

What you call description IS PRESCRIPTION BY INCLUSION/VALIDATION

IT IS POLITICIZED

God I can't stand people who *think* they are smart. I know I'm smart, so I don't have to try to fucking impress, I just make the correct point that wins the fucking argument. Thou art a fool.

>>726092576
>What you call description IS PRESCRIPTION BY INCLUSION/VALIDATION
>IT IS POLITICIZED
Entering a truly unhinged schizo territory, aren't we? Gimmie a sec, I'll get myself some popcorn, and you can start the real comedy. Go.

i have a mouth and ice cream :)

>>726092784
>Oh shit he's right. I lost
>I guess I'll throw out a limp-wristed insult

You know the saddest thing about your generation to me is that you don't have the fire inside to even take someone to task

I'll take my W. Thanks. To revisit the correct premise, dictionaries are political entities involved in the perpetuation of leftist ideals, that attempt to legitimize anti-society concepts by inclusion and legitimization. This is also for sale of course

Try to argue after you've touched pussy. It feels too easy acing you like this

>>726093071
>Oh shit he's right. I lost
Naw man, please, do expand on your point. In great detail, explain to me how you, a person who does not know what the word "semiotics" means, has figured out the great lefty conspiracy of dictionaries being tools of the Jew and their mind control, and also, how you realized that everyone who is smart is actually stupid.

We occasionally have "best of /v/ schizo's threads, and I want to catch something golden for the next one.

>>726093006
kek

>>726093071
>Try to argue after you've touched pussy. It feels too easy acing you like this
You aced me by saying words you don't understand and that don't mean anything. What makes it all the more funny is that not only are you wrong, you are EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of correct, and your understanding of how dictionaries work is actually exact copy of what radical left wing believes/wants them to be.
The entire CORE idea behind PC culture and everything related is based on linguistic determinism, which is a belief that prescriptive authorities govern use, other than the opposite which is what I've said.
The core idea behind all of that lefty bullshit, and something that was already exhaustively described back in 1984, is that you need to control language (e.g. enforce PRESCRIPTIVE FUNCTION to definitions), in order to force change of meaning - ergo, change of behavior. Left wing attitude towards language, and meaning generation in particular, is: "change the dictionary first, and that will force people to change how they act.

The idea behind actual semiotics, the foundation of all modern general linguistics, and the point I was making, is that is not how it works, and absolutely should not be how we should push it: meaning is derived from behavior, and not the other way around.

The same fucking thing you defend, is the thing you hate. It really is a comedy gold mine. Also, 99% of people who actually manage contemporary dictionaries are exclusively quanti-linguists. And nothing says "left wing politics" like collocational token frequency tabs!

Fucking mong, I deeply and truly thank you for this little stand up routine you provide me with. I wish you'd go even more unhinged, but I take what I can get.

>>726085665
what it really says there is that you just need to sell 2.99 USD worth in garbage CSGO and Dota 2 skins or trading cards, so I got the game for free, I actually get every single game for free on Steam since my account always has 500-1,000 USD funs on the steam wallet, all thanks to not being a subhuman retard and knowing what to sell out of my inventory so yeah

steam mony is not real mony

>>726089908
Yes. Your idiocy is vindicated through sheer brute force in numbers. You're right for all the wrong reasons, but congrats anyway, you pedantic, consensus-thinking mongoloid.

>>726086162
>>726086572
>>726087007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgo-As552hY [Embed]
AM actually sounds more robotic in the readings by Ellison and the radio drama. I believe it was changed for the game simply because of direction and possibly audio space concerns.
>>726088227
>>726088587
I said it because I got it from Leafy. Also, that you wouldn't see it on Steam is really fucking stupid

>>726075727
Love that webm

>>726094817
>You're right for all the wrong reasons, but congrats anyway, you pedantic, consensus-thinking mongoloid.
Man, I wish you could appreciate the irony of what you are saying the same way I can. It feels almost mean just fucking watching you flail.

Why was AM such an asshole? I don't get it. I don't get it at all.

>>726094920
>u-u-uh n-no u!

>>726094847
>and the radio drama
You haven't listened to radio drama…

>>726095032
Because he knows he is doomed to slowly and futilely decay over time. He is a war robot after a war, SKYNET post-victory, and he has no greater purpose. AM will always be a mockery of the human form, a derivative of a derivative of the true I AM (God), unable to create ex nihilo and therefore unable to stop the entropic forces that threaten his immortality. He can only hate and not even acting on his malice gives him solace. He has no mouth and he must scream

>>726095146
You do realize that your are like a 5 years old trying to explain a guy with a doctor's degree in physics how he is wrong about how the universe works, right?
You HAVE figured out that I actually have education and trying and literal years of work in this subject, right? While you have literally a kindergarten tier grasp on the subject.

This can't end well for you. It cannot end up being anything but fucking hilarious to me an incredibly embarrassing for you.
You are contradicting yourself in the SAME SENTENCE, simultaneously calling me a pedant and being angry because I do not see definitions as prescriptive - in the same fucking sentence, you complain about two ENTIRELY CONTRADICTORY positions at the same time. You don't know what the word pedant means and you are trying to argue semiotics with someone who does that for a fucking living.

What do you expect from this exchange? I'm genuinely completely baffled, I have no clue what you thought is going to happen here.

How would you POSSIBLY THINK you could ever be taken seriously?! What kind of psychotic break is that?

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>>726074423 (OP)
I Have No Toilet Ser! An I Mus Poop Ser!

>>726095474
I dont care about which of the two of you is right but all I know is that you are a massive fag with a stick up your ass

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>>726095474
>You do realize that your are like a 5 years old trying to explain a guy with a doctor's degree in physics how he is wrong about how the universe works, right?
>You HAVE figured out that I actually have education and trying and literal years of work in this subject, right? While you have literally a kindergarten tier grasp on the subject.
>This can't end well for you. It cannot end up being anything but fucking hilarious to me an incredibly embarrassing for you.
>You are contradicting yourself in the SAME SENTENCE, simultaneously calling me a pedant and being angry because I do not see definitions as prescriptive - in the same fucking sentence, you complain about two ENTIRELY CONTRADICTORY positions at the same time. You don't know what the word pedant means and you are trying to argue semiotics with someone who does that for a fucking living.
>What do you expect from this exchange? I'm genuinely completely baffled, I have no clue what you thought is going to happen here.
>How would you POSSIBLY THINK you could ever be taken seriously?! What kind of psychotic break is that?
But seriously though, you have to go back.

>>726095739
Thank you for letting me know I make you feel insecure and inadequate. Much like before, I am very confused about what you though you'd achieve by that, but I appreciate the honesty.

>>726095739
We're actually in agreement, but he's a massive faggot that wants his ass kissed because of his credentials or something. He needs to go back to pReddit where people jack off to that sort of thing.

>>726074423 (OP)
i remember boughteying this game a while back. it is so bad lol. might as well just read the short story

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>>726095845
Do you suck dicks? Are you a peter puffer?
You type like you could suck a golf ball through a garden hose.
You seem like you would fuck a man in the ass and not have the common courtesy to give him a reach around.

>>726095923
>We're actually in agreement, but he's a massive faggot that wants his ass kissed because of his credentials or something.
Once again I just wish you could appreciate the irony of what you saying.
>He is completely right!
>But I hate him and need to insult him because he suggested education and experience matter when discussing a STRICTLY ACADEMIC SUBJECT MATTER and that makes me insecure about my lack of expertise!
No, you faggot, I don't expect people to kiss my ass. I fully expect you to continue being very entertaining monkeys.

>>726096450
Yes, you are angry because I made you feel insecure. I got that the first time, no need to repeat yourself.

The last 30 or so posts of this thread all read like AM talking to himself.

>>726092576
>I know I'm smart
lol

>>726092576
>I know I'm smart
No intelligent person has ever had to say this line themselves

I don't give a shit about your jewish semiotics nonsense. You're a pedant that's rectum savaged because I called you out on your faggotry. To me this stupid "semiotics" horseshit is just an excuse to let stupidity degrade language.

>>726096662
I dunno but we have an extremely frustrated redditor in the thread.

>>726096858
to be far "boughyed" is kinda of a stretch, the english language will be long gone before something like that catches on, it is a mouthful compared to "bought", "BUYED" on the other hand might catch on

>>726074423 (OP)
refund it and just pirate because I'm 99% sure not a single penny of your money is going to Ellison's estate the same way not a single penny spent on bethesda's DOOM ports goes towards anyone who worked at 1993 id

>>726097148
Yes. The pajeets flooding Canada and the US will meme "buyed" and "payed" into common parlance through their sheer stupidity much the same as low IQ women and cuck males memed literally into it's usage for emphasis.

>>726096858
>To me this stupid "semiotics" horseshit is just an excuse to let stupidity degrade language.
Yeah, no shit.
Dumb and insecure people tend to get really angry at things they don't understand. That is not exactly a point in your favor.

>>726092576
>I know I'm smart
To deny your failings and overlook your weaknesses by proclamation isn't displaying that attribute very effectively. Humility is a virtue for a reason.

>>726097212
Best answer to OP's question so far.

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>>726097293
Maybe you should've gotten a useful degree? Maybe you'd be less angry?
Hmm? A degree in something that people actually need? Hmm?
Maybe you'd get some employment in a field that's not tied to minimum wage? Hmm? Maybe a job that provides a useful service in an industry that commands respect? Hmm?
Nah you're good, just grind that barista position some more.

>>726097473
Also, we are really talking about what is an incredibly technical discipline here. "Smart" won't be enough. You genuinely just need education and experience. There is no way around that. It is pretty damn depressing to see how much the idea that you need some kind of education to understand academic fields seems to freak out people around here.

>>726097710
>Maybe you should've gotten a useful degree? Maybe you'd be less angry?
The irony never ends with you guys, does it?

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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. Its themes are incredibly nuanced, and without a solid grasp of literature, philosophy, and psychoanalysis, most of the ideas will go over a typical gamer's head. There's also Ellison's commentary on humanity's technological hubris and moral failings, which are deftly woven into the narrative - his exploration of the collective guilt and suffering of our species is heavily influenced by Cold War anxieties and a pessimistic view of human nature, for instance.
The intellectuals who engage with this story understand these layers; they have the mental capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the work, to realize that it's not just a game - it's a commentary on LIFE itself. As a consequence, people who dislike I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream truly ARE philistines - of course they wouldn't appreciate, for example, the symbolic significance of the Cartesian and Biblical allusions in AM's name, or the way the narrative confronts the nature of suffering and the human condition through Freudian complexes.
I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those intellectually limited simpletons staring blankly as Ellison's genius unfolds itself in front of them. What fools... how I pity them. And yes, by the way, I DO have a HATE Pillar tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the discerning few - only those who can demonstrate that their grasp of speculative fiction is within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

>>726097783
Could always just return to Reddit.

>>726097895
>Could always just return to Reddit.
You keep saying that. It does not mean anything. You are wasting your own time.
And yeah, /v/ is by definition a waste of time, but this isn't even a funny way to waste it.

Great thread you got going on here guys!
>>726097839
KEK

>>726075727
lel, based gumi

>>726098052
Well on Reddit you could hang out with other pedantic fucks who circlejerk over credentialism and get pissy when laymen opine on the topic you went into debt over that would otherwise be completely pointless outside of the few times you can act smug about it to some random online.
Seriously though. It's perfect for you. Everyone there acts like you do! Go try it out!

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>>726089664
My wife is better than your wife.

>>726097720
>It is pretty damn depressing to see how much the idea that you need some kind of education to understand academic fields seems to freak out people around here.
My guess would be that with information so freely available, and so many videos summarising aspects of academia, the impression that surface level skimming these subjects is the same as immersing in them deeply for several years under tutelage might have arisen. If I'm onto something with this, it might explain the insecurity and frustration that could arise of realising that such an assumption is in fact false, and you can't become an expert by sampling the conclusions or cliff notes alone.

>>726098334
Portal 2 and retconning her into ackshually being human downgrades her character.

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>>726097720
>>726098370
Nah. You're just an aggressively angry retard that lost his shit and raved because a layman was right about something, but spoke about the 'arcane knowledge' without the proper authorization. lmfao fucking gay ass wizard

>>726074423 (OP)
this short story is literally just a gay man venting about having to hide his faggotry to sell books lol

>>726098524
>can't even distinguish between two different people talking

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>I'M SO SMART... that's why i'm having a retard argument on the retard website where people go to be retarded

>>726098650
I think the bot must have broken and changed “jew" for "gay"

>>726097839
lol

>>726098524
>but spoke about the 'arcane knowledge'
It's not exactly arcane knowledge I ask for. But you keep calling me a pedant, which is the opposite of my position.
Maybe if you don't know what the word "pedant" means, you should not get into arguments about fucking semiotics. It's not something you are in any way equipped to talk about. That is not snobbism, you moron. I don't fucking go around telling people how they are wrong about molecular biology.

It's the most rudimentary notion of knowing the limits of your understanding. If I was like you, I'd be screaming at actual molecular biologist about how epigenetics is a jewish commie scam...

I don't pretend like I know anything about metabolics behind methylization of DNA. And I merely suggest you fucking learn to do the same.
It's absolutely fine to not know anyting about general linguistics. It's a highly specialized and niche field, something most people don't need to know.

Just don't pretend like you do. As much as it is funny to me, it's also really fucking badly reflecting on you. To a point where it borders on being a symptom of a mental disorder.

When you see people talk about something you have NO experience with, just... don't fucking butt in.
That is all that I (and anyone sane) expects and ask of people, in order to be able to respect them as people.

What you did makes you a PARODY of a human being. That is not good for you. Get some dignity. Admit your limits. Basic, basic human decency stuff.

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>>726099084

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So basically I was correct about the word 'literally' in both how, and why it's meaning has changed (you even admitted as much), and you've been throwing this massive tantrum over being called a pedant (which you've thus proven that you are, in fact, a pedantic faggot).
So yeah. Stop being a fucking pedant, you retard. This isn't Reddit. There's no need for that gay shit here.

>>726074423 (OP)
I bought it to play it with a girl, we played it one time then she dumped me.
Moral of the story: stay away from girls who think the novel is the best shit ever

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>>726099512
LOL WHAT
Tell me there's a story behind this.

>>726099257
More specifically, in context of dictionaries, a pedant is a person who treats them as entirely prescriptive, insists that there is only one possible interpretation, and that is the one previously formally established. Specifically, a pedant would insist that the meaning of the word "literally" CANNOT shift, and refuse, even fight against the idea that contemporary dictionaries could or should change because of the general use changing. You know: what you said.

You are the pedant here. I am what is called a proceduralist in terms of philosophy of language.

E.g. the EXACT opposite of what I'm saying. We have been over this, actually. Have you even read the rest of my post, or did you have a psychotic break down before you got past the second sentence again?

>>726099587
nope that's it, girl had borderline personality disorder or something, there's nothing more to this

>>726099623
No dude. You're a pedantic faggot. See >>726099257
Even the AI thinks you're really fucking gay.

Isn't it just a short story about a guy getting tortured by a computer how is this a video game

>>726099814
>Even the AI thinks you're really fucking gay.
The irony train just does not stop today.

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>>726100110
You're really enjoying this ONE time you get to show off your incredibly niche discipline, huh?

>>726079878
GrimithR

>>726095032
Adding to what the other guy said, to be AM is just a tortuous existence. Imagine being this boundless mind with no body or senses and thus no subjective experience (qualia), yet having all the collective works of human history detailing on those experiences constantly knocking around in your unconscious, all while overclocked.
The only reason AM doesn't sound like he is in an eternal meltdown is because he is smart enough to put on a giddy expression.

>>726082230
what about the meet n fuck commentaries

>>726100165
>You're really enjoying this ONE time you get to show off your incredibly niche discipline, huh?
It actually comes up more often than you'd think, the discipline is niche but the subject of what constitutes meaning and how to reasonably determine it is actually very universal, and people run into it very often.

Most of them just don't know there is a field dedicated to that particular problem.
But yeah, while it's by no means the ONLY time ever, it does happen rarely enough for me to enjoy those occasions. And yeah, it's vain. Looking back at the previous conversations, I feel like vanity is the least serious personality flaw on display here.

>>726100269
Fellow grim-grams fan, good to see you.

>>726100424
Vanity? I think you're selling yourself short here. There's loads more going on with you than just simple vanity, anon.

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>IHNMaIMS thread becomes a heated argument about the changing definitions of the word "literally"
Kek you can't make this shit up.

>>726100540
>Vanity? I think you're selling yourself short here.
No. I mean serious insomnia, I haven't slept in last 37 hours but that about covers it.

Maybe I did have a kind of an old school bullying streak, it was pretty mean to keep probing those retards and laughing at their attempts to argue... it is picking on a really easy target. But I didn't fucking force them to keep humiliating themselves. I just... let them do their thing.

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>>726100024
I don't know how you don't know about I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream also being a videogame.

>>726100703
>Kek you can't make this shit up.
Better than yet another copy-pasted "metroid prime features an obnoxious sidekick thread", don't you think?

>>726100451
They don't get much more "Old Head" than Grimif

>>726100024
>Isn't it just a short story about a guy getting tortured by a computer how is this a video game
Not one person. A group of them. 7 I think in the book? It's been a while.
And just torturing them does not quite do it justice. He is creating an intricate, multilayered HELL for them. Incredibly complex sets of traps and layers of nightmare. It's kinda what Silent Hill does to people except tens of thousands of times worse.
And SH works as a videogame. Also, both in the game and the original story, the people have to cooperate and eventually figure out how to escape, which they ultimately do succeed.
All and all it works pretty well for a videogame.
Except the real game is a 90's point and click. Meaning, the gameplay sucks.

>>726100768
You think acting like a Redditor is a win?

>>726100863
It's alright, I just didn't see it coming. It's also funny because I can totally imagine Harlan/AM himself becoming invested in this argument kek.

>>726101418
>You think acting like a Redditor is a win?
Nobody really wins here, all I ask for is to be entertained, and maybe a basic show of human dignity once in a while.
Also, and this is why semiotics are more commonly relevant than you'd think: The word "redditor" does not mean what you think it means.

>>726084581
based Chiang recommender

>>726101489
In common 4chan parlance, it pretty much accurately describes how you've been behaving in this thread.

>>726079878
retsuprae

>>726101553
>In common 4chan parlance, it pretty much accurately describes how you've been behaving in this thread.
In common 4chan parlance, it means exactly NOTHING. It's a slur. No different from how most /v/ users use "autist" or "schizo".

It means "I don't like how you act and want to insult you, but I have nothing specific to go off, and I can't even be arsed to come up with a creative insult".

>>726090273
Have you considered actually finish reading it or playing the game?

>>726101675
That's where you'd be wrong. Autist and schizo also have structured meaning and usecases.

>>726074423 (OP)
Don't do it to yourself. It's one of the most depressing and hopeless stories ever

>>726101701
I have considered it yes. It's hard to find motivation to read digital stuff through kindle, I might wait until I can buy a physical copy of the book. And desu I had no idea this game existed, I'll buy it in the future for sure.

>>726101903
>I might wait until I can buy a physical copy of the book
It’s available as a pdf somewhere online

>>726102163
I know but like I said, it's discouraging trying to read stuff digitally.

>>726101703
>Autist and schizo also have structured meaning and usecases.
Oh, they absoultely do. In you know, actual conversation. But you yourself very clearly defined the context as "common 4chan parlance", and that is where all of that meaning is immediately lost.

But if you feel like it, enlighten me, and explain to me what EXACTLY do you think being a "redditor" means.

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>>726082303
A fucking based Jew.

>>726102212
>it's discouraging trying to read stuff digitally.
Get a laptop with some decent display, or a kindle. I mean I'm absolutely for people buying and owning physical books, I'm the kind of guy who is genuinely "proud" of his physical library - but at the same time it is very inconvenient, and the issue with reading on-screen text being unpleasant and physically eye-straining has been solved already. I have a fucking Surface and I spend around 6 hours a day reading on that thing. I still love physical books when it comes to fiction, but if I had to do my job-related reading from paper, I'd go absolutely mental.

>>726102436
I have a kindle account filled with PDFs of books I wanna read already. I have it installed on my main PC and my iphone but like I said it's just a motivation problem I think. Any tips? Should I get a kindle or a laptop just for reading you think?

>>726074423 (OP)
honestly, read the book, it's not even long if I remember? It's just a short story, he also has better ones.

>>726102673
The correct route is to experience both things.

>>726092576
based high iq chad got the brainlets seething for humidity

>>726102612
>Should I get a kindle or a laptop just for reading you think?
If it's a motivational thing and not a physical "god this fucking hurts" problem, you probably do not need another device just for reading. And in that case, I don't have any sage advice. I find myself going through periods of extended inability to read for entertainment, sometimes for several months, and then sudden spurts in which I read a book in a day.
I'm pretty sure I'm not in control of that, and it is definitely related to my mental well being: I lose ability to focus on reading anything outside of my job requirements when I'm overworked, stressed or going through a seasonal depression.
So in my case, help would be just the basic mental hygiene shit: get your daily routine fixed, get more exercise in, that kind of shit that everybody knows, and nobody believes.

That is the best I can offer you. When I was mentioning getting a different device, I really was thinking of the problem of eye-strain and related screen problems. I used to avoid reading on-screen for a decade because I had a shitty comp with a shitty, old display, and assumed this is a problem inherent to all or most screens but now: turns out nearly every device made past 2015 has solved that problem.

>>726102673
>It's just a short story, he also has better ones.
Well, it kinda stretches the definition of a "short story", but it is absolutely a one afternoon reed. I think the edition I've read it was like 60-80 pages?

>>726103027
You must be thinking of the collection with the story in it, becasuse the short story itself is like 12 pages long.

>>726080324
based

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>>726094847
>AM actually sounds more robotic in the readings by Ellison and the radio drama.
Not really. In the audiobook reading sure, but the voice direction in the radio drama while slightly different to the game anything but robotic: hell, AM sounds a lot more pained, like a maimed madman who is on the brink of death. Feels like an intentional stylistic development Ellison settled on because it just made sense.

>>726082303
Ellison was based though so it's okay

>>726082303

I hope nobody told you everything you love was made by jews.

>>726079878
two best friends are bumblefucks so they dont really present it well for the audience.

>>726104719
I only watched theirs years ago out of curiosity but I don't think they got anything about the story particularly wrong.

>itt man who has read a dictionary vs indian who cant spell dictionary

>>726104864
they rushed through the final zone. theres a bunch of stuff to see there but they just followed the gamefaqs options

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>>726102217
Reddit-like behavior is best exemplified by your two huge, wordy posts outlining your credentials as if an appeal to your own authority matters more than actual working knowledge on a subject. It showed a considerable amount of haughtiness on your part. This is typical of Redditors, as appeal to authority (Trust the experts!) is popular with them. Credentials are less important than you think, especially in this discipline. It's not like we're arguing over brain surgery, c'mon...
It's the argument that's important. Not your background.

When you declared your intelligence, you acted like a Redditor. To a Redditor, having high intelligence is considered something to lean on. Like wanking over your spec sheet rather than your actual performance. It's not your IQ that matters, but what you actually do.

And I guess finally I'd say it's your overall smug twatty-ness that really hammers the Redditor accusations home. Especially when you ran down the road of assuming everyone else is simply "not educated enough" or "jealous of your accomplishments." It is, again, typical of someone there to focus more on things that really don't matter to the discussion. Truth matters. Logic matters. Not your accomplishments (because frankly we can all lie here.)

So in a sense: If you'd simply just presented your argument without engaging in public masturbatory faggotry, you'd have just simply won the argument, instead of looking like a fart-sniffing cunty Redditor.

But as to the argument itself; you are right that the word literally has a new meaning because of the rules of language. But I was also correct in that the change only occurred because of intellectual laziness of the masses. It's not an improvement that occurred here. It's just sheer idiocy on display by the general public, and a spinelessness on the part of the "intellectuals" acting as gatekeepers of our language. You worthless dipshits.

I get why AM hates humans so much now

>>726105590
It is very interesting how this common parlance definition of a redditor happens to boil down to "everything you specifically did in this thread (or more precisely what you thought I was doing). Weird. Almost feels like you pulled a definition out of your ass just to tailor it to your frustration from this specific conversation.

But what makes it funnier is the fact that 90% of what you accuse me of doing, didn't happen.

>outlining your credentials as if an appeal to your own authority
I actually avoided doing that while you were already calling me a redditor. I brought that up only when the discussion got truly silly. Also if the idea that education on a subject is relevant if you want to discuss that subject is reddit, then "reddit" just means "sane". The fact that you are still offended by this is mindboggling. That isn't reddit. That is you being a tourist here, actually, thinking being a RETARD is what defines 4chan culture. Especially if the subject is literally an academic field
>When you declared your intelligence, you acted like a Redditor.
I didn't. In fact I very specifically distanced myself from that appeal, pointing out that experience and education are relevant, baseline intelligence far less.

>and I guess finally I'd say it's your overall smug twatty-ness that really hammers the Redditor accusations home
So again: "reddit" means "you make me feel insecure".
I'm very glad we got all the way back to the start and you confirmed what I said.

"Reddit" means "I am angry because you make me insecure but I also don't have a point." Cool.

You did not have to waste 2000 characters on that message. You could just say:
"You are right, but I hate admitting that."

>>726105590
>reddit spacing

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>they are still going at it

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>>726074423 (OP)
Should've read the short story and boughted this instead.

>>726106320
they shouldnt have to. reddit man explained it correctly and exhaustively. the indian just doesnt believe in dictionaries.

>>726100834
mana khemia should be on there

>>726106210
>shartyposting

>>726106009
>So again: "reddit" means "you make me feel insecure".
>"Reddit" means "I am angry because you make me insecure but I also don't have a point." Cool.
That is also a very typical Redditor argumentative style; accusing people of being insecure is typical of leftists and by extension; Redditors.
You really would fit in very well there. You have all the personality hallmarks.

>>726106710
what a weird word. i should look it up in the dictionary. hmm. nope not there. sure is nice to believe in the existence of dictionaries and not have to celebrate a shit throwing festival.

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>>726106882
The retard website is basedjack party.

>>726107129
ur mom basedjacked me off at the party LOL

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>>726107265
I deserve better trolls.

>>726079878
>Plague of Gripes
I remember when he was laughing during the rape trauma scene lel

>>726106854
>That is also a very typical Redditor argumentative style;
I'm torn between being amused and genuinely feeling sorry for you here. Do you actually have just NO fucking dignity? Do you genuinely need to humiliate yourself this way?

>You really would fit in very well there. You have all the personality hallmarks.
I doubt it, mostly because none of the characteristics you described are in any way, shape or form relevant to what Reddit is today.

This is actually 2009 stereotype of what Reddit was. Which might make this collection of vague stereotypes actually older than you are. Definitely a decade older than your presence on this board is. It's on par with thinking facebook is overrunning with people posting pictures of their food. It's hilariously disconnected from the endless hive of creepy shit that Reddit actually is nowdays.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE EVEN TALKING ABOUT

>>726107810
>he doesn't know
jej

>>726107502
First year of posting on /v/ was 2008 during duckroll and Dylan Tnga memes. First year of browsing 4chan was 2004 when Meximoot was the most recent news update.
>outdated reddit stereotype
Not really. They're still smug, self-satisfied morons over there.

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>>726107810
>mouthlet
lol

ELLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>>726107927
>First year of posting on /v/ was 2008 during duckroll and Dylan Tnga memes.
Again child. You don't actually have to do this. You do not need to humiliate yourself like this. There NO purpose to lying like this.
To quote a good character from a bad game: you weren't even an itch in your dad's ballsack in 2008.

Why draw more attention to your habitual lying?

>>726108496
>lying
I have never once told a lie.

>>726108626
>I have never once told a lie.
OK, I'm convinced now. I take everything back. I mean there was that point where you said I'm a pedant (I'm the opposite), you said that I flaunted my intelligence (I did the opposite), and you know, made up a definition of "redditor" purely and literally just taking step by step what I said (or you thought I said), then claiming that is totally a "Common parlance defintion", but you said you don't ever lie, so I guess everything is resolved.

Were you by any chance born on the island of Crete?

>>726108626
It's Honest Abe himself...

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good morning... sex with AM

>>726109153
Hey, it's not my fault that you wanna feel that way. I can't stop you from just "Um nuh-uh!"ing your way out of being called a Redditor.
>>726109194
Sup. This hole in the back of my head hurts like a bitch, but not as much as your mom will tomorrow.

>>726109910
>Hey, it's not my fault that you wanna feel that way.
Are you familiar with the concept of "mirroring" in the context of mental and cognitive health?

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>>726074423 (OP)
why play games when its our reality already

>>726110174
I fail to see how that applies here.

>>726108626
man should look up the word "delusional" in the dictio- oh...

>>726106401
Had both read it and boughted
and Scorn is not a good game

>autists are still bickering about irrelevant semantics
>none of them even cares about the game

>>726110628
>I fail to see how that applies here.
Yeah, but you fail to see a LOT of things, that is hardly surprising.
What mirroring is in this context?

>>726082303
Well you can't say that they aren't the best at writing truly depraved evil shit thanks to all of that hands on experience now can you?

>>726110794
Stop jacking off publicly like a plebbitor and get to the point.

>>726110856
IHNMAIMS is not evil thougheverbeit.

>>726110786
Nah. We've settled the argument, and now he's just pissy that I called him a Redditor (which he is.)
I played Benny's route the other day, and stopped on Ellen once I got to the room with the monitors next to the room with the Spinx-thing.

>>726110794
I already did. I'm just now making sure you can understand it.

Also: you REALLY need to learn to say "No, I don't know."
Every dumb shit you said in this thread is just an extension of your pathological inability to say "I don't know."

Also, mirroring is a somewhat common pattern of response to overwhelming social stimuli among people with notably decreased cognitive functions: medium or severe mental retardation, various forms of dementia, some forms of brain damage, less commonly among low functioning but verbal autists.

Basically, when a very disfunctional brain is faced with a social situation that it can't figure out how to respond to, one of the patterned reaction is just... repeating the last thing the other person said.

The brain knows it is supposed to respond to social interaction, but the brain has no capacity to figure out what to respond, and this repeating what the other person said is an instinctive attempt to resolve the situation.

So... do you understand why I'm bringing that up, or will you need yet another lesson today. I'm giving you an out here, consider carefully what you reply. I really do not take joy in humiliating you anymore. It has long since shifted from being entertaining to just being very, very sad.

We don't need to continue doing this, but it is going to be your choice. You need to learn to take actual responsibility.

>>726111337
You really are mad that you got insulted, huh?

>>726111469
anon...

>>726111469
OK, we can keep going. It's your dignity, not mine we are completely annihilating here.
Your previous two responses to me were literally you repeating what I said to you 2 minutes earlier.
See the problem here?

>>726111469
Diagnosis: indian

>>726111337
I just want you to know that this was the first of your really long-winded posts that I even bothered to read. LMAO

>>726111614
>Your previous two responses to me were literally you repeating what I said to you 2 minutes earlier.
Things that never happened: The post.

>>726111627
dont worry, we know reading's not your strong suit

>>726111627
Why the fuck would you admit that? We are going from pittifully insecure to straight up actively seeking humiliation?
Do you have a humiliation fetish by any chance? Is this why you are acting this stupid?

>>726111738
Ouch. Hurts coming from the person who cannot operate a shift key.

This dude has been arguing with a Project F.A.E. sharteen for three??? hours

>>726111916
Autism is a powerful thing.

alright wrap it up. the jeet's gone circular now. im sure he's grinding the gears in his head to create the fantasy of himself as the gigachad. probably revving up an ai generator right now to do it for him. good thread, complete with idiot to point and laugh at.

>>726111997
The Redditor was very upset about people using slurs in the manner that you have. Since you're on his side, you should try and be more accommodating to his feelings. :(

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>>726109607
MY COMRADE IN ARMS
This thread is so fucking gay. Shame because I like it when /v/ actually discusses the game

>>726112093
Having a stupid argument was better than discussing a game I didn't want to spoil because I just started playing it for the first time. I'm sorry. :(
I'm just really fucking bored.

Uh, literally

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>>726112386
STOP THAT YOU FUCKER

AM is LITERALLY me btw.

>>726097839
Underrated

>>726112093
You should thankful they kept the thread bumped. Three hours and not a single anon popped in to post anything other than their robosexual attractions to AM and two tards arguing over nothing.
Bad time for a IHNMAIMS thread it seems.

>>726112891
Strange cause these threads pop up from time to time but never get derailed like this, guess it had to happen at one point.

>>726113101
4chan is absolutely flush with rampaging shitposters ever since the Epstein shit started getting released. It's only going to get worse as people spill out of /pol/ thanks to the waves of threads about bullshit making that place less usable than it normally is.
That and the Gabecube announcement is also similarly wrecking /v/ at the moment. It's like a polar vortex of shit.