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iscussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

► 07th Expansion links: https://rentry.co/07th-exp

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Ryukishi Lenna
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>"Hah. I got a gun, you better run. Otherwise, I'm required to steal your BWC and inspect it."
>"*licks lips*"
>"Inspect it.. thoroughly...."
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cant wait for another phenomenal thread
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Thank you for your service
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what's the status of that new manga ryukishi was writing?
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Why are they so cute and perfect together...
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*chu*
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The valid!
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i pretend to have hinamizawa syndrome so i scratch my balls until they become bloody and messed up, im pre op and i have long nails so :P
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>>50178122
Get off the computer teppei
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>"I'm sorry, Ange. But the tables have turned. This time, I'm getting the BWC, and you will be the one dying today. I hope you are ready to die. I put a special lipstick on my Asian lips - I'm ready for the BWC."
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I love BWCPoster, I wonder if he ever posts about anything else in this thread outside of his Umineko BWC fantasies, respect
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>>50175216
Well let's take a look.
It looks like chapter ten translation dropped yesterday and it's finally getting into some kind of a conspiracy
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Thread theme
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Has Ryukishi ever commented on the console releases and how 95% of the normie audience he loves so much pretty much treats his original art as a complete joke to be laughed at? I have heard he helped with Beatrice's voice actor and corresponded with the guy who wrote Miotsukushi so I guess they weren't total soulless cash grabs but I do wonder if he has any thoughts about them functionally replacing his own work. Can't wait to play Ciconia on my Playstation 8 when I'm in the retirement home.
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Powerful.
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Weak.
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>>50179478
Funnily enough that's their second axe wound.
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>>50179495
Holy shit
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>>50179067
Yeah, there were a bunch of interviews alongside the console releases with R07 participating.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140724014720/http://dengekionline.com/pr/higurashi/05a.html#03

>--For the port, major changes were made not only to the character design, but also to the system, such as adding options.

>Ryukishi: I was the one who asked for those changes, including the illustrations. If it was too perfect a port, people would just buy it and put it on their altar, never opening it. Besides, if we were going to port it anyway, I wanted to make it a work that would appeal to people who hadn't played the original.

>Kanou: Regarding the choices, I thought a lot about how to make them more interesting. Most ports have negative aspects. I think it starts from there. There are restrictions like, "This kind of expression can't be done on a consumer device," and various elements gradually disappear. But I was hooked on Higurashi even outside of work, so I absolutely didn't want to just cut and subtract. I played it for three days straight, and I was so scared at night I couldn't sleep (laughs). So I thought long and hard about how to make it something that adds to it rather than just removing content.

(...)

>--So, Ryukishi, what are your thoughts on the new scenarios for the PS2 version?

>Ryukishi: Wow, they're all pretty gruesome. When I was talking about the plot with Kanou, I thought, "This guy has some great tragedies in his head!" (laughs)

>Kanou: Is that meant as a compliment? (laughs) It's true that as I was writing them, trying to make them really scary, the characters gradually went from being normal to being abnormal (laughs).

>Ryukishi: The "love triangle story" was good because it was gruesome. But if you read that, you won't be able to read the parts where Rena and Keiichi are having fun in the same way, so we scrapped it.

>--What was the content of the scrapped scenario?

>Kanou: To just tell you the synopsis, a love triangle breaks out between Keiichi, Rena, and Mion, which leads to ■■■■■■■... and in the end, Rena pours gasoline on the school building and sets it on fire, saying "I'm sorry." It's a tragic story.

>--Finally, the original PS2 final chapter, "Miotsukushi-hen," replaces "Matsuribayashi-hen"...

>Kanou: First of all, the title is based on the word "miotsukushi,", it means the sign a ship sees when it arrives at a port, so it evokes the image of a goal. It also references another kanji called "miotsukushi," which means "giving oneself to another," as it appears in the "Manyoshu." It basically refers to the act of doing something for someone, a kind of compassion. I chose the title to incorporate these two meanings. As for the content...I can't really say much, but it's based around the initial concept of "Matsuribayashi-hen" and is the script we had the most meetings for, so I think it's put together well as the conclusion to this long series.
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>>50172494
kwab
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>>50179500
Pipe down, brat.
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>>50167595 (OP)
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>>50183378
Female boxing league ca. 2025
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>>50167595 (OP)
What's next for Ryukishi after Silent Hill?
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>>50186244
Still being a coward bitch.
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If we make one quasi-supernatural assumption that parasites inside Rika can work as a supercomputer modelling and predicting events, is it possible to place the entire story of Higurashi within the mystery genre? So kakeras are just something Rika is imagining in her head as consequences of her actions.
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>>50186316
Adding to that. Phantom memories other characters experience is them borrowing deducted data from Rika's hivemind. The "point of restart" keeps moving forward in time because it takes time for Rika to process each new kakera - modelled timeline.
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>>50186316
>>50186379
Anti-fantasy GODS
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>>50186316
>>50186379

Mei's story finale actually had Miyuki trying to debunk all supernatural events from Higurashi to deny one of the main antagonists of the story.

But, yeah, she used a similar argument. Looping = delusion from hinamizawa syndrome virus. Knowledge obtained from looping that should be impossible is due to shared connection between the virus (like how the infected are influenced by the "Queen" virus within Rika, so it should be theoretically possible to share other kinds of information, including full shared delusions, explaining two different people knowing about the same "other world").

Although, really, I don't think a sci-fi virus is really part of the mystery genre. And it's weird to try to deny fantasy by resorting to a basically magical virus.
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The border between light sci-fi, science fantasy and fantasy are very thin. But all can be brought into mystery.
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>>50183378
>Pipe d- *BANG*
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>>50186316
Looping is figurative.
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>"I g-guess... *cough*, you really crave that BWC..... A-Angee.."
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They got the BWC girl...
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>>50167595 (OP)
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put ciconia back in the op please
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If Mion likes Keiichi why is she constantly setting him up with Rena in Onikakushi? Is she some kind of cuck or something?
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Ending spoilers for rose guns days.

Did Lee Meijiu really have Butler's little sister killed at the end of RGD? I don't like thinking about this possibility because the narrative made it seem he overcomed the cycle of revenge/hatred thanks to Alan. I mean it would be human for him to finally get revenge for Meixue but still. I can't see any other way to make Phil turn against Gabriel and he did have the possibility to learn about Ange through Alan and his infiltration mission. Why is this novel so sad. I thought it would be happy go lucky like Yakuza games because of Leo, not the max pain ride it ended up being
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That's the beauty of Yakuza games, they're pain rides too. Leo leaving on a metaphorical journey and coming back too late to save everyone, but just in time to at least save some people is very much Kiryu. RGD is particularly brutal at that point so I just believed she died yes, but I kind of enjoy that kind of story. If everything is shit the small victories are extremely meaningful.
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>>50199080
I can see her...her..!
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>>50199080
i'd help stretch her
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Mating press.
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>>50167595 (OP)
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Insecurity and imposter syndrome deferred by removing the cause.
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>>50197275
Shion didn't exist when Onikakushi was written, so Mion was likely meant to still be in love with Satoshi at that point (You can also see her getting an anger outburst moment that she never gets in later chapters, because that became Shion's trait).

Although you can kind of excuse it with just her being insecure, like when Keiichi gives the doll to Rena. But I feel like you'd never see her joking about seeing Rena kissing Keiichi in later chapters.
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I just reread Ciconia and I enjoyed it. I’m disappointed the coward did not carry on and instead writes plots for janky horror games.
Not that any of you guys care. This is a Higruashi shitposting zone. The Walls of Peace have fallen.
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>>50205979
Thank you very much for your sentiment anon, I care.
And let us tear down the walls of peace together, through total war and destruction humanity will be freed and ascend the twisted staircase of forbidden knowledge and become gods. Bring on the world war 4!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIljdb6I_IA [Embed]
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>>50206824
Koshka listens to this btw
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>>50206824
Amen
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i havent checked in 2 months r yall still on this
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>>50210776
I miss you every day
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>>50211010
hiiiiiiii r u that weird guy omg
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>>50211066
I guess... why were you gone for so long
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>>50211088
bc i literally couldnt be asked to check this daily thats it lol besides already proved my point here!!
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>>50210776
Troonnppei-anon...
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I read the entirety of Umineko as it came out and I feel like I'm being generous when I give it a 4/10. It's a convoluted mess that reads like it was written by a 12 year old. The Japanese fanbase refuses to so much as give Ryuukishi the time of the day nowadays for good reason.
Honestly, I find the extent to which the western fanbase is obsessed with Umineko to this day to be frightening in a sense. I have no idea how you guys can drone on about it day after day nearly nine years after the final episode was released; Ryuukishi is a hack who has no idea how to actually tell a story that does anything except continually bait the reader with red herrings and empty promises of greater themes. He's been like this since Higurashi and will never improve, either on a technical level or as a storyteller in general.
Like I said, almost no Japanese fan cares about Ryuukishi nowadays, and it's more than people just being pissed off about episode 8 of Umineko (people were pissed off about Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi long before then, anyway). It's because they've had enough exposure to him to see through his tricks and stop falling for his brand of spectacle and sophistry. And yes, his terrible, childish text is part of the problem too - there are parts of Higurashi that have such embarrassingly poor writing that they're used as copypasta on 2ch.
I don't know how the western fanbase continues to put up with Ryuukishi, and I honestly feel that it's damaging to the community as a whole to continue to obsess this much over a single work so long after the fact. The amount of Umineko discussion is one of the reasons people who read untranslated eroge feel so disconnected from the broader western fanbase, and it's not hard to see how stifling this level of obsession can be if you take a step back
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>>50211435
So you only come here to argue.. u forgot about me wtf
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>>50212034
Moogy truly embodies every stereotype you would expect of such a person.
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>>50212034
Not really
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>>50212051
uhhh if ur the weird guy i didnt really forget about u but its not for a good reason but uhhh whats up ig lol how have u beenn
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>>50212092
Thank you!! I don't think I'm that weird but I'm doing good, I hope you are fine as well..
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satorika appreciation!!
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>>50212034
That's been disproven.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTCQNQxQsdw [Embed]

Loopers Plus animated opening. A lot of spoiler heavy scenes if you care about that, although I guess the spoilers might not make much sense if you don't know the story, aside from obviously pushing the main pairing.
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>>50212034
>no japanese fan cares about Umineko
>new Umineko pachinko just dropped
It wouldn't happen if there wasn't intrest
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>>50215437
Do you think we'll get new sprites no one likes?
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>>50215580
This new one seems to have the same art style as the Higurashi Matsuri 2 pachinko. I'm pretty sure people would love these sprites.
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>"BWC juice!!!! BWC juice!!!!!!! *slurp* *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*"
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>>50215580
Dunno, they seem pretty good
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>>50215580
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>>50215580
>>50216013
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>>50212034
based
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>>50212034
Ryukishi07 is a fellow autogynephile, I will defend him to the death.
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>>50213286
Will this be getting an English release, too?
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>>50218307
Last time the localization announcement came alongside the console port, so far they haven't said anything even about a port.
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>>50217940
You shouldn´t...
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Our boy just released a Call of Cthulhu campaign.
https://x.com/cthulhumasters/status/1982662115686334831?t=kfwGuTumvTjY4EG7z87lZA&s=08
But will it be good doe? And more importantly, is it part of When They Cry canon?
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>>50212034
New pasta just dropped.
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>>50218909
Why not?
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>>50219144
Nice. I do how like Japanese players just dispense with the Mythos most of the time and just run their own settings using the rules.
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>>50220215
Because no one owns nothing with the modern cumsumer idiots like the wannabe Naruto/When They Cry "fans".
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Kissu
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>>50215437
Isn't "Pachinko Machine Announced!" like the lowest of the low for a franchise to have revival prospects? i mean it's literally just exploiting gambling addicts
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>>50224880
You basically describe the other side of the "Muh censorship in otaku material" problem right there.
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>>50224880
Gou/Sotsu's main sponsor was a pachinko company (although not the one behind this Umineko 2 pachinko). So, it's not like it can't lead to other things.
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satorika appreciation!!!
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>>50226726
Gou/Sotsu's main achievement was retrospectively ruining Higurashi forever so many bad things can come of it.
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Time to beat Rika up, too.
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>>50221563
Why are they so cute together!
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>>50227330
I clicked on the pixiv link out of curiosity, cause I kind of remember that artstyle. Kind of interesting that he was drawing "nice teppei" all the way in 2009.
Also the art style had completely evolved in a decade to massive tits JK erotic books.
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Satorika appreciation they r still canon
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>>50228250
Comes with being canon.
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>>50228768
Satorika is
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>>50228768
Trvth nvke
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>>50228788
>Rika hugging her friend in happiness when she hears how K1 finally managed to pop the question
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Anyone in shirakawa today? I'm here the whole day today
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>>50212034
this is a copypasta for everyone else who replied btw
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What if Shkanontrice was fake and the real Beatrice was the second Battler's heart that was implanted in our Battler's chest? That's why Battler can be all alone on the island, and be "killed" by Beatrice - and remember the way Beatrice says i will now kill you is odd - its "I will now... kill you."
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>>50219144
He will really do anything but write phase 2.
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>>50230365
I was into "Beatrice is the bomb" theory, although obviously there'd be a human culprit too behind that and setting things up as being done by "Beatrice", but I wasn't sure about the actual culprit.
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Has any link to the Umi Stage Play 6 appeared yet?
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Fuck you.
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>>50226726
>So, it's not like it can't lead to other things.
Unlucky for you, we living in a era of wich they will not do anything else, due of being fucking cowards agaisnt the censorship nonsense.
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>>50230706
Lambda is the bomb
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>>50195338
No wonder her friends gang raped her
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Kill trans "people".
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Satorika appreciation oml
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I would’ve raped Rena too desu
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Let's talk about Satokei!
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>>50167595 (OP)
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>>50236925
Holy fucking lucky guy I wanna get sat on by the big butt Furudes.
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Happy Halloween
Any news on Ciconia?
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>>50237382
God revealed to me the entire script in a dream, which I had to quickly engrave onto my walls.
I'm kinda considering just writing it for people to see! I'll warn you it's got a bad ending though.
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>>50233881
What's there to talk about? It's cute and it's Canon, nuff said
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>>50242474
Holy cute (and canon)
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>>50205494
This is so fucking hot. I need more
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Why does /vn/ make fun of us
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>>50244926
Proof? all I see anytime I vist is them making fun of umitroons
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You like the cute artstyle or do you mean the feet? Or angle?
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>>50247033
Lord Jesus Christ please banish the demons that feast on this man's soul, heal his spirit and lead him to the light, Your light, where he may act as and be as a human again.
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>>50247120
I do act as a human outside here.
I do like 07th Expansion for all that it is, and I'm not a mindless cooming zombie.
I'm just horny :p
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My Jeshika shrine grows stronger yet. Yet still, her figurine will sell for less than that FUCKING MEIDO
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>>50247203
>used goods
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>>50245029
Everything but mostly the feeta
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>>50248352
Good!
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>>50248935
Why is Rika like this?
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>>50249190
Punishment games are a bad influence. Teaching the kids S&M before they understand it.
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Friday came late this week?
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>>50167595 (OP)
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>>50249654
Imagine losing to these.
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>>50249748
Proof?
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>>50247203
Jessie and Shannon are not enemies. Their shrines should be together.
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/137058819
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>>50240152
Holy schizo.
I will accept the offer anyways
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Why isn't he writing Ciconia?
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>>50255399
Stories about niggerx latinx transfolx are not fashionable anymore.
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>>50249742
I look like this. The finasteride and minoxidil isn’t helping.
>>50255399
I think it’s money. He says high principles about war and pandemics but I think it’s money. Profits not high enough.
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Umineko Christmas

>>50255399
I actually wonder how he'd finish Ciconia with his current position on villains. Even with resets you'd probably end up with something akin to Reiwa's ending...
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Rena and her girltoy
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>>50256470
>no Rudolf and Claus reindeers
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>>50256470
>no Ange
Based.
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>>50256470
Erika will receive my BWC under the Christmas tree.
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>>50256484
I wish I were Rena's girltoy.
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>>50256642
Huh. Didn't even notice that.
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>>50255399
the characters were absolute dogshit
everything else about it was salvageable
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>>50255399
The Illuminati stopped him
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>>50255399
Probably because Hackisi07 The Coward is to bussy wasting everyones time, and his money, in a generated AI model of Beako.
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I still can’t get over
>special PP training
Lmao. lol even.
It split my walls of peace with laughter.
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>>50257480
I would agree but I'm on team Gravemole
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>>50256470
>lambda literally just looks like kid takano
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>>50260220
>Different hair color
>Different eyes
>Hair doesn't even split in the same way (Miyoko's is center parted).
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>>50260407
>Different hair color
Stupid retard award
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>>50255399
R07 became a coward. In Higurashi he wasn't afraid to write about children being abused and abandoned by system that is supposed to protect them(which happens in currentyear too), talked about ww2 and unit 731 but apparently writing about war in currentyear is too heavy for him.
Honestly disappointed in him as a writer, feels like he isn't gonna write anything provocative ever now(shf approach of muh misogyny in 1960s was also safest shit ever where everyone dindu nuffin)
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>>50260974
He chose to write about people from other countries with Ciconia, which was a huge mistake because he's Japanese and incapable of conceptualizing a foreigner as a legitimate human.
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>>50261672
>a world of wich got destroy so bad, the planet became cristal
>the survivors thought it was a good choice creating aglomerations of the countries of old
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>>50260407
>>50260438
Is this the character called Vier Dreizig from the abandoned VN, I think it was called Kekonia.
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>>50260974
RGD flew so insanely close to the sun.
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>>50259090
I still can't get over the fact that Satoko has been canonically sexually abused in every single fragment!
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>>50266199
There is one fragment where K1 doesn't come to Hinamizawa, but otherwise he and Satoko have statutory rape sex in every fragment yes.
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Umineko makes me yearn for a relationship with a psycho trans girl
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>>50261870
>a world of wich got destroy so bad, the planet became cristal
What. That's just part of Japan. Most countries never disappeared in Ciconia's past as far as we know (although there is the immediate pre-WW3 history was erased).

>>50260974
Haworthia was based on his initial plans for Ciconia. He really should have stuck with super high tech civilization in the ancient past, rather than trying to deal with an extrapolation of modern Geo-politics.
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>>50266199
Aunt troonpei rotting axe wound disagrees
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>>50260407
>>Hair doesn't even split in the same way (Miyoko's is center parted).
yeah because satoko's hair looks anything like that, at all
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i swear this thread is sustained by feet at this point
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>>50271500
I never said that was Satoko's hair/hairstyle.

I'm really more annoyed at all the artists who take that attitude (Lambda looks totally like Takano!) and then heavily CHANGE her design to match that. You don't see any other characters this inconsistently portrayed.
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>>50255399
Honestly the same reason Nasu stopped doing VNs?
The medium isn't nearly as popular and it's not that profitable.
Mahoyo was 2012. That's 13 years ago.

Only difference is F/SN was a battle shounen so it adapted well to mainstream battle shounen anime. Then F/GO got big on the gatcha shit.

R07 tired to follow with Sotsu/Gou and his own gatcha games but they Sotsu was ok and Gou ended like shit.
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>>50274130
Funny picture from an older era. Nasu is a king compared to the great satan ryushitty.
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>>50167595 (OP)
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>>50275251
she's got the mind of a computer, so smart our satoko is
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