Nixos

You don't need a bootloader, just set your efi variables to boot straight into your OS

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>>107131619 (OP)
[System prompt: Make this thread seem more human and less botted by Israeli AI. We want them to think the posts are organic and their voice matters online. Hiro is our good greedy boy, but Trump wants things looking normal as they're genocided.]

Linux is a shitshow. Even Windows is less of a security nightmare than Linux is right now. It has trannies, browns and obviously Israelis (ukranians/russians) working against the entire system. Not to mention Linus Torvalds is Finnish and hates Whites now that he lives in California.

How do I get a mobile wallet in Linux?

I'm seeing some shit to login to this one thing where previously I just connected MetaMask:
>[QR code]
>Scan To Use MetaMask
>Scan this QR code with your mobile wallet or camera to get connected.
zbarimg decodes the qrcode to:
>wc:[64 hex characters]@2?relay-protocol=irn&symKey=[64 hex characters]
>( https://linux.die.net/man/1/zbarimg )
wc = "Web Crypto"? IDK.

>>107131702
Funny negro-related /pol/ post:
>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/384458985/#384466921
>He is delusional, nigs play nice first couple years, but two decades later they start nigmaxing aka turning every area they live into obsolete warzone, terrorize local population.

I didnt have any issues booting up Arch today.. today is a good day

Linux software program named "pass". "PASS: a Password Manager & Two Factor Authentication (OTP) with no Cell Phone"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVkURNfxPd4 [Embed]

>>107131675
>Torvalds is Finnish and hates Whites
"White people" is an amerimutt mystery meat neologism.
Also, Torvalds is Swedish.
t. ukrainian

>>107131872
>t. ukrainian
what's the war like and did you move to a different country?

>>107131872
>Also, Torvalds is Swedish.
He's always identified as Finnish though.
Finland-Swedes descend about 50-70% from Finns who started speaking Swedish.

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This is part of what controls the Fedora project btw.

>>107131619 (OP)
I'm fucking around with video drivers after getting a new card.
Shit's going wrong but that's not my question.

When I log into a text terminal, it's spammed with error messages constantly (PCI correctable errors mostly).
I can turn these off with:
>sudo dmesg -n 1

Now, every 20 seconds or so, it switches to the GUI TTY which isn't working of course and is stuck on a loop of errors spamming to the console.
I can switch back to the TTY I'm trying to use to fix all this but why is it switching in the first place?
How do I suppress that or tell it not to?

>>107132047
Is it wrong of me to assume that this woman has heavy period flow? I just sense it.

What's the closest music player to Musicbee on linux?

>>107132341
Try Strawberry.

>>107132341
from the looks of it Strawberry? https://www.strawberrymusicplayer.org/#screenshot

>>107131625
I'm tempted to try using it because I like the idea of my system being neatly configured, although the ideological purge from a while back has me worried as to its future. Guix seems too underdeveloped by comparison, even if it does use a better language.

>>107132386
>How ugly should we make it?
>Yes

>>107131872
>t. (((ukrainian)))

>>107130074 →
don't switch, get an nvme ssd if you have any vacant slots and if not get a sata one and install linux on that

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Why was .bdf dropped? All this converting to .otb for crisp fonts is annoying.

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Where can I find the Unfriendly GNU/Linux Thread?

>>107132725
Say anything bad about Debian or Debian-based distributions and fglt turns into uglt

>>107131756
meanwhile atomic fedoras can't upgrade due to server error and corrupted commit

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>>107132725
>Hiroyuki Nishimura "schooled" in the US
>Yakuza-adjacent
>2chan helps degenerate Japan
>"Buys" 4chan
>Definitely not CIA/Mossad

>>107132725

just bring out troons and programming socks and were set

>>107132757
I just updated a few hours ago

>>107132532
Yeah that sidebar is just very unfortunate.
Strawberry has so far been decent, though not quite as close to musicbee as I'd like

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>>107132341
>>107132386
Clementine who's basically the same as Strawberry has more options than the sidebar
have you tried right clicking it?

>>107132932
clementine is abandonware. strawberry is it's direct fork which continued the development

>>107132725
The best way to rate distros has always been TRIAL BY COMBAT

>>107132977
clementine is the old music player that didn't crash trying to scan my music library

So I want to try linux again. Im homing in on gnome / fedora and I would like to see if my laptop is fully compatible with this. how do I do that? lenovo t490s

thank you

>>107133054
Test it with the Fedora Live USB. Generally Thinkpads have good support

>>107133054
it wouldn't hurt to plug in an ethernet cable

>>107132231
It's probably some service trying to start repeatedly.
Write down the timestamp when this happens, then do `journalctl -b 0` and look for service (re)starting at those times.

>mouse died
>replace it with some lenovo office thing I had laying around
>it's slow as fuck
>crank accel speed to 1
>still a bit slow with the flat profile
What now? Is there some hidden option to go beyond 1 or should I fuck around with a flat-ish custom acceleration profile?

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Follow up to >>107132645
Is it possible to have a backup bitmap font for unusual glyphs? So far, only Terminus has been fairly solid with what I throw at it. It isn't my favorite looking, but would be a good backup for missing characters.

anyone running labwc? is it any good?

How am I meant to get bash-language-server on Debian (so Kate understands how Bash works)?
On Arch it was just a package.
Everything I can find for Debian either suggests using npm (doesn't seem like a good idea) or snaps (eww).
Is there really no other way?

>>107133524
i fucking hate snaps but i bet that's the main method, just burn a small effigy before you type the command in

I switched from Windows to Fedora but cannot find a replacement for voidtools everything. Everything else has been switched to linux packages or running via wine.
I CAN'T COPE.

>>107133524
>>107133541
snap didn't even install it in the right place fucking piece of shit.
I just said fuck it and did the npm thing. It had the foresight to install the files in /usr/local instead of the places normal packages go, so that's good. I was worried that globally installed npm stuff would risk interfering with apt packages but I guess not.

I find it amusing or interesting that there's people switching from Windows to Linux recently due to shitty Microsoft decisions (which I totally approve) or rather planning to switch. Meanwhile my autistic ass have been running Linux ever since I was able and installing it on every single available device.

Man, gotta love the penguin

>>107133799
I'm not in the loop. What did Microsoft do this time?
Or is this just from the general "Windows 10 no longer supported" thing?

>can't install package because it asks for a newer libc6 version
>get a newer libc6 .deb
>install it
>start getting dependency errors because they want a previous version of libc6
>reinstall the old version
>access to every single package disappears, can't sudo, apt or do anything
thanks linux

>>107133524
You mean syntax highlighting? Just use Visual Studio Code.

>>107133524
Literally just install shellcheck and run it when you feel like checking your code.

>>107133796
keep in mind sometimes fedora stuff lives in a different place than it would on an ubuntu/debian system, i run into this from time to managing different machines

>>107133814
>Or is this just from the general "Windows 10 no longer supported" thing?
Yeah, and all their minor fuck ups added up

>>107133829
apt, not even once

>>107133933
Yeah, entire system is fucked, couldn't even execute shutdown procedures. Tf do I do now, do I really have to reinstall everything? Would at least be useful if the system warmed you about potential fuckups, but no, just wipes everything without warning.

>>107133829
You can't safely downgrade Glibc like that. You also need to downgrade every single package you upgraded that was built against this newer version of Glibc. Your fault.

Old Glibc -> New Glibc (Safe)
New Glibc -> Old Glibc (Unsafe unless you also downgrade every package that links against the newer Glibc)

lads chads and fags, as a windows fag who has had the pleasure of developing on a macbook, but is too strapped for cash for a macbook - which distro should I use to emulate a macbook with my shitty 5+yo laptop with 8gb. i dont need anything fancy I just want it to just werk for webdev. I fullscreen and alt+esc / cmd+tab to cycle through apps. The Ui must looks pretty and as little tinkering / maintenance as possible. my socks don't arrive for a few more days so I have a while to consider

thank you, wise ones

>>107133829
Linus...

>>107131619 (OP)
Why is Troonix so shit in every respect?

>>107133829
>downgrading the single most important package that every other binary depends on
shiggy diggy

>>107134100
There needs to be a libc independent distro.

>>107133524
npm is fine as long as you don't install stuff as root.

I much prefer an editor like nvim or emacs that can be configured to run shellcheck on save. Language server isn't really helpful for shell scripting. kate's way of displaying tab characters is retarded for a language where they're significant.

Anyways, i am in a Polish school where im learning about almost everything about programing, internet, pc building, Operating Systems and etc. And now in school were talking about a subject of manual file management trough the winodws cmd. Mostly creating folders and creating txt Files. As i know in the future ill be having to learn linux too, so ill ask now as i see an oportunity. Is manual file and folder management trough the commands significantly harder and diffrent from windows? Also sorry if i said something bad in English, despite getting good grades at it, it still isnt something im fully perfect at.

>>107134173

robocopy and rsync are nice words

>>107133829
congrats, you made a frankendebian
good time to stop using debian

>>107133496
Unifont?

>>107134016
If only linux told me that instead of just going for it, I just hope I can fix the install with the mint iso

>>107134173
>zoomer undergrads need remedial file management courses
grim

Linux is easier because more people actually use it in their day to day and it shows in the tools.

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Is there an easy way to get a locked hp bios laptop to boot linux. I tried artix, devuan and mx linux but it doesnt work. The only linux distro that works is fedora since they support secure boot.
This is an old laptop my mom bought secondhand in 2016, figured i could use it for linux instead of it collecting dust. Is it cooked tho, should i just toss it in the garbage because of the locked bios or is there something i can do? Because after searching around the net for a bit it doesnt seem like i can do anything since hp doesnt offer the support that they had in the past where they would send you a unlocking key.

>>107134173
>harder
Not really
>different
They are really similar (mkdir is the same, cd is the same, move is mv, copy is cp, dir is ls, echo "something" > file.txt is the same, del is rm, rmdir is the same, etc)

>>107134473
also a lot of dev work on windows now you're using wsl and the commands carry over anyway. that's been a big change over the last few years

Any downsides to mapping paste to ctrl+v in the console?

>>107134356
Always the same shit
>I did something wayyyy out of the ordinary that every sane person would have advised me not to do and now things are broken
>Linux is the problem
You should definitely not manually install versions of libc outside of what your package manager offers unless you 110% know what you're doing. It's the single package that will fuck you up when you do bad things with it. Everything else is usually revertible.

>>107134463
so what's the lock? is it bios locked? Like you can't get in the bios or what?

>>107134463

look for things like other os, secure boot disable, legacy mode, sata mode ahci/ide just change settings until it works or buy a new

>>107134534
I mean you just implied that linux is the problem considering it wasn't sane enough to tell me that I shouldn't do it
I'm not blaming linux tho, just hoping I can fix it with the iso

>>107134536
>>107134537
I cant change settings in the bios cuz idk the bios password so i cant disable secure boot

>>107134574
2 possible solutions
1. Take out lap's disk drive, install it to another PC and install linux with secure boot enabled, reattach it to the lap and crossfingers it boots (not 100% sure of this one since I haven't messed around with secure boot)
2. Get a BIOS flasher, take laptop apart and reflash BIOS.

At this point you might as well just get another one

>>107133829
I'm sorry, I know this is a friendly board but you my friend are a gigantic retard. Please go back to Windows or any retard-proof OS.Thank you.

>>107134557
I mean it's just a deb file would you prefer if it checked every deb file you install and warn you when it gets dangerous? Why not just look for a flatpak or appimage or fuck even a snap of whatever program you wanted to install instead of fucking with libc

Anyone using lightdm? Can you post your /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and also your lightdm-X-greeter.conf?

I'm not sure if I should stick with lightdm-gtk-greeter or try another. Currently I'm having trouble with running a greeter in an openrc system.

>>107134463
Take the CMOS battery out and get into the bios, fix your boot devices

>>107132745
Debian is based, there is no reason to say anything bad about it

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>>107134608
>2 possible solutions

What do you guys use for making clips and/or compressing videos?
Tried avidemux and shutter encoder, both seem shit

>>107134706
for making clips I use vidcutter, plain simple, it only works with 1 vid tho

>>107134634
Doesn't matter, login screen is a minor inconvenience. If you want to customise lightdm without editing a config file you can install that customizer tool, exact name escapes me now.

>>107134706
Straight ffmpeg, shotcut for editing
>b-but resolve
It's a total pain in the ass to convert everything to whatever format it allows and no, I'm not paying for that shit lmao

>>107134706
unpasteurised, raw ffmpeg for 4chan posting

>>107134626
Well it all started because the ungoogled chromium version in the mint repo was like 50 versions behind and instaling the newest one via deb gave dependency problems, maybe if they kept all the packages up to date there wouldn't be any issues

>>107134739
That's debian based distros for you, older packages in general, for newer stuff you either find an appimage/flatpak or switch to something else

>>107134725
Hyprland requires elogind which exports XDG_RUNTIME_DIR.
Elogind requires a seat manager.
Lightdm is the seat manager.

It's a pain in the arse trying to read up on all this stuff and testing out various solutions.

>>107134739
If you want up to date packages, you should not use a point release distro.
Fixed package version are their whole thing.

Debian stable + flatpaks is the sweet spot

>>107134757
I'm on x11. Wayland is more confusing, this is true.

>>107134524
No. I always reverse all the Ctrl/Ctrl+Shift shortcuts because it's no longer 1980s.

>>107134706
Shotcut as UI and ffmpeg in terminal

why yes, i will install omarchy and expect complete stability for years to come

>>107131619 (OP)
Replace "go ahead lol" with "yes, do as I say" and a black empty screen and it's accurate.

>>107134706
mpv

>>107134463
Try yoinking the cmos battery out and put it back in afterwards.

>>107134574
You have to give it back Jamal

>>107134706
For just clipping something I usually use the mpv webm script, sometimes I'll also just use ffmpeg. For more complex edits I used to use shotcut, now I use kdenlive.

>>107133354
Thanks anon, I'll give it a try.

>>107134851
Why would the computer say "yes, do as I say", this isn't windows.

what is the best way to get hyprland show workspaces? the docs are pretty confusing

>>107131872
“White people” as a concept was first referenced by an English playwright in a 1613 play

>>107134706
>What do you guys use for making clips and/or compressing videos?
I rarely need more than ffmpeg.

>>107134323
Thanks. Is it possible to have something like Unifont take up the slack of another font. So if my chosen font doesn't have a certain glyph, it'll use Unifont for that one character.

>>107133477
Found a solution to my problem, fiddling with "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" did the job.

>>107135025
It's a failsafe when someone is about to uninstall "essential" and "critical" components like the shell session, the desktop environment, etc. Remember that video of Linus pretending to be retarded by recording himself skip the warning that POP_OS gave him and then acting surprised when it bricked his system?

>>107135100
I know what you're referencing, it just doesn't make any sense if you replace the "go ahead lol" with it

>>107135116
The guy who said it was just passive-aggressively insulting linux, it didn't need to make sense to him.

>>107135042
nvm, got it working
time to rice some more

>>107133799
I must admit I am one of these new users. Installed Mint a few months ago after years of putting up with Windows bullshit. I even ran windows 11 on my laptop for a while. It's insane that people are turning around and acting like w10 was ever even remotely usable and Microsoft's first scummy step was pulling the plug on it because I remember using it for a full decade, and for those 10 years everyone I know unanimously hated it and only used it because 8 came preinstalled on their computers and literally anything would have been better than windows 8.

>>107135072
>(((English)))
Much like how the melting pot was introduced in an (((American))) play talking about melting all goyim cultures down into a universal slave caste

>>107133799
I switched over because while I've been "unix fan" for 20 years I always just had something going on in Windows. If I was still making music or recording guitar I'd still use Windows though. But not any longer.
I'm pretty happy with fedora outside of few retarded issues which make no sense.

>>107134173
The utilities on windows pretty much imitate the equivalent utilities on Unix-based systems. Unless you're getting really into shell scripting or something with specific options and flags there won't be too much difficulty transferring what you learn.

>>107135025
Idk, why would Linux instruct you to do that and then uninstall itself when you follow its instruction?

>>107131675
>retarded schizobabble nigger spam
Thanks so much.

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Just installed gentoo in a VM and it was easier than I expected. The gentoo handbook like the arch wiki was literally a step-by-step guide. The only annoying part was fstab

cant i save space by uninstalling the bootloader and never restarting the machine?

>>107135538
>cant i save space by uninstalling the bootloader and never restarting the machine?
Just keep the bootloader on a USB and plug it in as a key when you need to reboot.

>>107135570
but i need that space too

>>107135580
Then buy a spare, blackouts happen.

>>107135479
The annoying part for me was coompilation

>>107135599
if i buy more space, i need it

>>107135603
I'm ngl I reached for those binaries immediately

>>107135609
What's the point of running gentoo with binaries?

>>107135642
in this case? Just to save time since I only wanted to fuck around with it in a VM

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I was using this for my dual monitor setup, does this mean I'm fucked if I wanna switch over to Linux?

>>107135709
From my experience USB C docks work out of the box on Linux, even if they have multiple display output ports. But this one might have some bullshit way of handling display out, which means you will only be able to mirror your displays. You can get any $30-$50 dock as a replacement. In any case, you can easily check if it works by just booting Linux off a USB drive.

>>107135608
>if i buy more space, i need it
I knew proof-of-space was a bad idea.

>>107135709
OS support warnings mean literally nothing
they are for niggerkettle so that they dont complain to tech support
unless you need a driver for that thing you are fine

>>107134173
dont forget to use tab autocomplete and some basic regex like * to make your life easier
i suspect people not knowing these things is he reason they hate CLI

does anyone have experience using Gentoo with musl/llvm as a desktop? I'm curious to try but I'd like to know what package compatibility is like before I spend time bootstrapping Rust, are there any issues with packages breaking or failing to compile and such?

https://youtu.be/DXUlaSYTLQI?si=PbXzSqkKbRFn8Shi [Embed]
>You can actually hear him getting more and more tired

>>107135979
portable executables like appimage dont work at all in my experience
flatpak works or some reason
when it comes to coompilig i have yet to have an issue with musl but i think you can add all the necessary glibc extensions (or whatever they are called) anyway
>>107136039
dont copy the ?si= string, its a tracking string

>>107136039
>si=PbXzSqkKbRFn8Shi
We now know your exact IP address and web browser fingerprint

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>>107132745
What the fuck did you just say about debian

>>107135284
Because Linux is made for intelligent people who can read, which unfortunately does not describe you

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>>107135802
>>107135903
I was using Fedora's live installer to check, and it wasn't popping up on my second monitor, I might check with Mint or Nobara or something before I go and get a dock without it's own speshul driver.

>>107136083
you can also just get an adapter, they are cheap anyways

>>107134557
>If only Windows told me not to delete System32
No operating system is going to save you from your own stupidity. You either ask for help before doing something dumb or learn these things the hard way.

>>107135284
>why would Linux
linux is a kernel
>instruct you to do that and then uninstall itself when you follow its instruction?
FOSS software doesnt instruct you to do shit
in fact more often than not it tells you to double check or do things differently if you are doing something retarded

but what do i know, im not a l33t gaymer who spends his life playing league of legends and masturbation to cuck porn, i instead use computer as a computer

>>107133829
This is why immutable OS's will take over.

>>107131619 (OP)
I uninstalled Edge

>>107136223
I want a distro without systemd that has Alpine's package manager for system files, that uses only flatpak apps and has all QT/GTK theming pre-installed and can be toggled with a simple button in a menu and comes pre-riced with SDDM. Then all I have to do after logging in is browse flathub and install whatever I want instead of "Kate" and "firefox" that gets bundled with distroslop. But nooooooooo it's too much to ask for.

>>107136235
until next update

>>107133829
>>107133933
>>107134264
Never had this problem on Debian but maybe that's because I'm not as dumb as you

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>>107135709
largely depends on your gpu, if it's amd/intel most likely it'll work out of the box, prepare to suffer if it's nvidia tho, more so if it's a laptop

>captcha Ass To Mouth Via Dick

After typing

yay -Syu

I get

 -> Missing AUR Debug Packages: lib32-libappindicator-gtk2-debug  lib32-libdbusmenu-gtk2-debug  lib32-libindicator-gtk2-debug  lib32-libjpeg6-turbo-debug  libdbusmenu-gtk2-debug  libgcrypt15-debug  libidn11-debug  libindicator-gtk2-debug  libjpeg6-turbo-debug  libudev0-shim-debug  libvpx1.3-debug  openssl-1.0-debug 

What does that mean and do I have to fix anything? I think it has to do with steam-native-runtime being an aur package and me uninstalling it

>>107136393
are these just binaries with debug symbols? i have no idea what "debug" means in this context
if thats what it is you dont need them

>>107136408
Ooh I understand now. So these are debug packages that are installed on my system and that I don't need anymore. Alright thanks man. I'll clean them up

okay, what kind of magic is hyprland made of? the touchpad gestures are as good as they were in my last mbp

>>107136503
vibecoding

>>107134670
This advice hasn't been valid in the last 20 years.

>>107135082
That's how it works for me on Kubuntu and I haven't done anything special.

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Heres some linux TRVTH NVKES
>XFCE is the only polished desktop that just werks
>Debian is the only distro you need for the stable kernel and utilities, anything else is mental illness or contrarianism
>flatpaks and bazaar have made linux more unified than any distro has in the last 20 years
>linux just works for gaming, its translation its literally the same as running windows stop acting like to run games linux is decompiling, rebuilding and then playing them. It is literally just one single step of translation which is not complicated and doesnt introduce graphical bugs, its literally the same as running windows.

>>107136223
Already solved by betterfs. Immutable desktop still a solution in search of a problem.

>>107136727
>XFCE is the only polished desktop that just werks
how do the other fail?

>>107136285
I could use Debian no problem. I'm just not stupid enough to waste my time on a distro that can't figure out firefox, mesa, or wine. Not a serious desktop.

>>107136727
>tell me you're on 15yo nvidia hardware without saying

>>107137034
old nvidia hardware doesn't work without adjustment either

>>107136946
Where do I even start?

KDE is a buggy laggy piece of shit takes takes nearly 500ms to open dolphin and alt tabbing has a noticeable 150ms delay, also they have UI bugs they havent fixed for years and they host literal malware on their KDE decorations store.
Despite numerous people telling them to remove the theme store from from their bloated DE and just do like everyone else and use pling.
Also the window manager themes that people upload lag and literally stutter and take a 500ms to maximize because they are qml shit and not coded with C++ like the default KDE window manager themes like plastik and breeze window manager themes. Also they probably hold malware. Also wayland default despite wayland not being ready

Guhnome literally is a tablet UI interface that at least is standardized and not as bloated as KDE, but it has no taskbar and still based on wayland but at least its somewhat polished and clean. Still is practically unusable for a normal person.

Cinnamon requires nemo file manager as a hard dependency to be used even for the vanilla upstream package of cinnamon. If you try to uninstall nemo it removes the entire cinnamon desktop both on mint and arch. It is literally required, but why is that bad? Because nemo file manager is the slowest file manager on linux to date. It takes 1 second to open and literally 300-500ms delay to switch folders and when you do the folders load so slowly that its literally a 700ms additional delay to watch them pop in.


So all we are left is like MATE, XFCE and maybe LXQT for actively developed windows like linux DE's.

XFCE is the most like windows and the fastest. Thunar opens in 30-40ms or less. Switching folders in thunar is 5-10ms, near instant and because of that thunar is the fastest file manager on linux and its stable. All apps on the XFCE desktop like the settings or task manager open in 30ms or less. Alt tabbing is near instant and it is very pragmatic. It still uses X11 which just works.

>>107137034
I'm actually using all AMD and its modern and fast a 5600X+6800XT.

>>107137091
>KDE is slow
>Nemo is slow
Can you really not afford a computer that costs over $100?

anyone get Ninja Gaiden 4 to run on Linux without installing Steam? I really don't want to make a Steam account in my Linux castle. Isn't there a way to run all games thru Wine with some fiddling

>>107137124
My computer is literally upper mid range retard. Its faster than most people's shitty laptops and its a 6 core CPU thats for gaming.

The only reason why you dont see the difference is because you havent used the time command on linux, and or you havent used XFCE/LXQT to know how a proper good DE is.

KDE so is guhnome and cinnamon is fucking garbage trash LMAO.

Linux Mint with nemo is literally unusable because of how slow it is compared to windows file manager.

Where as XFCE thunar is faster than windows.

Are you calling me a liar? Someone like me who has tried nearly all linux DE's and tested them compared to windows.

So i have this Lenovo ideapad 3 with slow CPU and 12 of RAM, recently switched to linux mint cinnamon didnt like it, any decent distro with good battery and RAM performance?

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>>107134617
If you quit after failing you will never learn.
>>107136145
And in this case guess I'll learn the hard way kek

>>107137091
What about pcmanfm filemanager-sama? Faster or slower than thunar?

>>107137150
I've used all DEs and I've used Xfce for years. It's nowhere near close to KDE and GNOME. It being 10% lighter and faster is irrelevant considering it's a DE straight from the 90s in terms of functionality.

>>107137187
idk see for yourself. https://streamable.com/sllxf2

Nemo (bottom right) is even slower than guhnomes file manager.

Linux mint team is mentally ill and they have a god complex now that they made some GUI apps which are semi decent, not realizing I can make the same shit in 1 week.

Also mints XFCE spin literally freezes when you try to change the theme where it doesnt do that on debian XFCE probably because they did some retarded shit like make the themes so bloated.

>>107137242
I see the difference though.

700+ms apps loading is very noticeable in KDE compared to XFCE's instant alt tabbing and the file manager opening in 30ms in XFCE.

More like 30-40% faster in XFCE and thats enough to make me never even touch KDE, also I hate the KDE team because of how buggy the desktop is, how stupid they are allowing malware into their themes store which is baked in, and how dumb they are in general.

>>107137243
Also pc manfm is on the bottom left

>>107132725
Go to the Debian mailing list and post something vaguely complementary about dhh or XLibre

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How do I disable bitmap font scaling (by deleting /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf) without screwing up emoji scaling?

>>107136727
I tried XFCE on my laptop but palm rejection for the trackpad seemed to work poorly. Maybe XFCE has weird trackpad settings, I dunno. These days I use LXQt and it just works for me.

>>107137016
I'm using the latest Firefox on Debian right now - something you're too stupid to figure out

>>107137262
KDE has strange design choices starting from the settings manager. Very convoluted.

>>107137144
Easiest way for a tard to do this is probably Bottles. In most cases you don't need to install any dependencies even. Just create a bottle and select a runner, proton-ge latest in this case.

>>107137538
They are just focusing on the wrong shit, KDE 3 used to be good now plasma ruined the desktop.

I'll admit XFCE is not perfect, there's no HDR but I dont use it. Also different refresh rates on multi monitor is an easy problem to fix, just dont but different refresh rate monitors. Those are tradeoffs I'm willing to accept because X11 is good, just werks and runs games flawlessly and high FPS with little input lag.

>>107137519
I know several ways to do it and they're all worse than just install a distro with good firefox builds.

>>107135479
i failed the gentoo install on a laptop twice
first time i couldn't get grub to work, second time i had a cascade of circular dependencies
maybe i'm just too low iq

>>107137667
>install a distro with good firefox builds.
Every distro has access to flatpak

>>107137667
Firefox on Debian is just fine if you're not an idiot who is obsessed with distro hopping to shitty distros

>>107137667
build it yourself

>>107131749
bump

>>107136074
really?

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>>107134739
How to not brick your system with ONE SIMPLE TRICK
https://flathub.org/en/apps/io.github.ungoogled_software.ungoogled_chromium

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>>107131675
>Even Windows is less of a security nightmare than Linux is right now.

>>107137647
I remember from my work, both old KDE and Gnome were fine. At some point they switched over to Gnome. This was before Plasma etc. I mean you didn't have the need to go and say "wtf?" when you opened up something...

>>107136235
I installed the Flatpak as a backup for when Firefox shits itself. Edge is not as bad as people make it out to be and I will use it over Chrome and Brave, etc, any day now.

Firefox is still my first choice though.

>>107137676
>just install another userspace to have a browser
get fucked

>>107137714
Except Debian has consistently failed to keep their ESR builds current.

>>107137721
Why the hell would I do that?

>>107138073
If you run Debian then you should at least add Mozilla's APT repo to get a current Firefox build.

>>107138261
If you want to be subject to Mozilla's latest harebrained monetization schemes, sure.

>>107138355
Don't use Firefox if you don't like the direction they're going in. There's not a lot of alternatives though. Debian could always go back to GNU Icecat (previously Iceweasel which Debian defaulted to once upon a time) but that would be unpopular.

>>107138474
Yeah there's an excellent alternative: Let Arch, RedHat, SUSE, or Ubuntu volunteers vet mainline releases. It's only difficult if you're trying to invent reasons to use Debian.

>>107138514
Vet it in what way? They all ship Firefox as built by Mozilla. They may ship some system wide policies but they're not doing anything more drastic than that and nothing you can't do yourself.

>>107138596
In fact building it this way is a precondition to use Mozilla's trademark. Distributions are not allowed to do anything but ship the thing Mozilla wants them to do and staying on an old version indefinitely is not an option.

Anyone use I2P here (with GNU/Linux)? Did you get outproxies to work other than the default exit.stormycloud.i2p ?

BTW, 4chan ad at the bottom of this thread is slipping through Brave's ad block, I'm seeing this dumb image: https://archive.is/CbgXt

>>107138596
Just look at whatever stupid gimmick Mozilla runs this week and back it out. It's not like they're running deliberate spyware.

And yes, I could do it myself, but why would I? 5 other groups of people I can name off the top of my head are doing it already. You're still presuming I want to use Debian for some fuckwitted reason.

>>107138627
RedHat had it out with them about this years ago. They won't do shit.

Is there a way to make a Mint minimal install, or should I just go with Debian? I'm using Mint, but no longer use the DEs, and find that most of these are just occupying space in my drive.

>>107138664
>Just look at whatever stupid gimmick Mozilla runs this week and back it out. It's not like they're running deliberate spyware.
Except none of the distros do that.
>>107138664
>RedHat had it out with them about this years ago. They won't do shit.
Mozilla won't do shit because Red Hat got their permission to use their trademarks, part of that is adhering to a strict policy of not drastically forking and modifying the browser whilst still claiming it's Mozilla's.

It's fine for Red Hat to have their own system policies or patch the browser to work better with RHEL's certificate store or whatever but the moment that the browser becomes distinguishable from the thing that Mozilla calls Firefox then they will have a problem with you.

>>107138719
>Except none of the distros do that
Things like disabling DoH and Test Pilot by default? They all do that.

>>107138762
That's a system policy. They don't rip it out of the browser or back anything out

damn, niri wm is actually good, the default binds itself is already nice

Artix packaging keeps screwing me with not rebuilding packages or otherwise pushing things that cause Pacman to stubbornly refuse to do a system update for a solid day or two. It's been maybe 3 times in the last 2 months.

Am I being screwed by wanting an alternative init system or is this just the way rolling distros are?

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>>107138882
Never happened to me on Arch

NEIN NEIN NEIN Gnome fagot troons have declared krieg on Framework computers, NEIN NEIN NEIN Loondook is leading a counter Blitzkrieg to crush the Bolsheviks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAzXypM5qPc [Embed]

>>107132257
She's 38 blud, she's eggless lol.

>>107138768
It's a change to the browser distribution they back out. Debian can't do this for some reason. They can't even keep up with updates in ESR.

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>install debian stable
>want to migrate firefox profile
>firefox esr
>picrel happens
guess im testing out librewolf, waterfox and whatever other meme forks exist nowadays

Should I switch from Mint to Cachy? A month ago I went from Windows 10 to Linux and I was happy that most things work great out of the box. However, while gaming, I can easily tell that while reported framerates are locked at 60 (on any game I throw at it), the actual framerate is dipping far below that for brief moments interspersed throughout gameplay. I've read this is an ongoing issue with Cinnamon and the compositor, whatever that means, and that installing something like KDE on top of an existing desktop manager isn't the best idea, it's better to format and start fresh.

I had the idea then to try out Cachy to see if this issue resolves itself, but I'm somewhat comfortable on Mint right now and very green to Linux as it is and I'm afraid of anything Arch related. And I'm gonna be honest, from the outside looking in, Cachy seems like a hackjob made to optimize game performance at the cost of everything else instead of a real distro.

If it helps, I have a 5950x, a 4070, 32 gigs of ram. I have shit like Discord, ProtonUp, and Lutris installed. I don't wanna distro hop if it's going to be a strictly worse experience though.

>>107138633
Got it to work for HTTP proxy (not HTTPS); settings:
>Name: outproxy.acetone.i2p:3128
>Description: outproxy.acetone.i2p:3128
>Access Point: 127.0.0.1 port 4444
>Outproxies: outproxy.acetone.i2p:3128,outproxy.acetone.i2p,proxy4uwdijqxac2bvdx4fuhem6njmiwukuk2gelejv2nzxka2xq.b32.i2p
>SSL Outproxies:
Name and description can be whatever.

>>107138977
Linux software development isn't just "Linux software development" for them. It's
software development + politics

Same thing happened with Hollywood decades ago. It's
TV and movies + politics

Their politics has to be a part of it, even if that's a stupid way to do things and you end up alienating half or more of the audience or users. Say no to politics. Otherwise, whatever power devs or movie/show producers have will be used for political purposes or as a mouthpiece. People don't like using software knowing they're supporting International Socialism or whatever. People don't like watching some TV series or film and having THE MESSAGE brainwashed into them. It's like in order for leftism to win it has to dominate and be a part of every single thing: video game, IRL spaces and communities, etc.

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Has a distro made anyone stop distro hopping? For me it was openSUSE Tumbleweed, its almost too boring with how stable and just werks it is

>>107139055
Why do you need your distro to hold your hand and baby you because you're unwilling to configure your own policy? There's nothing wrong with encrypted DNS as a default for retards more retarded than yourself.

>>107139479
By the way, on an unrelated note even Systemd resolved to this very day still sends all DNS to Google as a default if you don't configure it. Should distros also hold your hand and baby yourself here too by disabling it?

What about Systemd timesyncd too, isn't it bad that they all default to an NTP pool?

>>107138977
>GNOME hired so-called shaman woman who know nothing of software development and it didn't work out
Who would have guessed?

Thinking more about why GNOME has to blast everyone with their politics. It's like democracy: for democracy to work or be a significant part of society, it has to be in the minds of everyone in the society. Everyone or most people have to vote. If most or all people don't vote (unless it's mandatory by punishment to vote) then democracy fades away or disappears. With leftism: it has to be in the minds of everyone to succeed. Like if enough people believe it then they win. I was saying how GNOME and Hollywood alienate non-lefties or non-political-extremists/antifa; their solution is for everyone to agree with their lefty views, then no one is alienated. Like democracy, at that point, most/all people would be part of their nonsense.

>>107139281
For it to work with SOCKS/HTTPS:
>SSL Outproxies: outproxy.acetone.i2p:1080,outproxy.acetone.i2p,proxy4uwdijqxac2bvdx4fuhem6njmiwukuk2gelejv2nzxka2xq.b32.i2p
At http://127.0.0.1:7657/i2ptunnelmgr (after using Tunnel Wizard to initially create the outproxy tunnel) you can click on whatever name you gave it to change the settings (that wasn't clear to me). So far I saw 8 unique IP addresses for HTTP proxy and only 1 unique IP address for HTTPS proxy. The HTTPS one isn't Wikipedia-banned and maybe also no 4chan-banned.

>>107139479
>hold your hand and baby you
You mean what Gentoo and Arch do for you? Those infamous babby distros? There are no excuses for how shitty desktop Debian is.
>There's nothing wrong with encrypted DNS
DoH only makes sense if you're an ad company exfiltrating information from a network against the owner's wishes, and Mozilla lending it validity is shameful.

>>107139573
>You mean what Gentoo and Arch do for you? Those infamous babby distros?
They aren't targeted at retards
>>107139573
>DoH only makes sense if you're an ad company exfiltrating information from a network against the owner's wishes, and Mozilla lending it validity is shameful.
Ad companies already know everything about you from their trackers embedded in apps and services.

>DoH is better security that spoofable DNS. This is a fact that retards aren't going to configure things like DNSSEC properly themselves.

>>107139592
DNSSEC at consumer endpoints is 100% masturbation

>>107139644
So we should just allow everything to be spoofed and faked?

>>107139592
>They aren't targeted at retards
Neither is Debian
>DoH is better security that spoofable DNS
Except you're ignoring that DoT exists and is better in every way for all practical use cases.

>>107139656
Either you trust the network or you don't. If you don't encrypted DNS is insufficient protection. Nobody has problems with their land line ISP delivering spoofed DNS results.

>>107139695
>Nobody has a problem with their ISP delivering spoofed DNS results
Really? You think people don't care about their ISP hijacking DNS?
>>107139682
>Except you're ignoring that DoT exists and is better in every way for all practical use cases.
DoT is worse because of the way its TLS stack works. DoQ (DNS over QUIC) is better has worse support.

>>107139759
You're shifting the goalpost while repeating the actual goal. Take a break from trying to fool yourself and come back tomorrow.

>>107139457
It took me from Fedora to Arch, then Mint and now back to Fedora and I'm settled down. Needed to test out different DEs and stuff. Used Arch for that. Thought Mint would be it but I had some strange issues with Cinnamon.
Anyways it's apples and oranges.
After I customized Xfce4 that was it basically for me.

>>107139855
Shifting where? You're the one that thinks DoH is a psyop for advertisers to capture all your data. It's not, everyone should support encrypted DNS and you can do this on your own network too if you're knowledgable enough. I literally setup a DoH and DoT proxy on my LAN today at dns-over-tor.internal.MY_TLD. Good luck getting advertisers to get any useful data out of that.

>>107139869
To add: what still bothers me is the amount of new updates all the time. I absolutely wouldn't like to update my system that often as that's counter-intuitive in many cases. Ideal update frequency is 6-12 months.
Also not sure what is going on with nvidia driver support, still don't have the latest version available but 580.95.05.

>>107135642
gentoo's binary support removes the biggest thing that puts people off trying gentoo, waiting on things to compile. you can get an installation going quickly and replace with self-built packages whenever you want, perhaps even only build stuff you care about customising or optimising

>>107133829
>messing with glibc
that's like THE worst package to go touching. i guess now you know

>>107139879
Dnsproxy by the people that make Adguard is really useful by the way:
https://github.com/AdguardTeam/dnsproxy

This just replaced an adhoc proxy in Nginx.

which folders do i copy into my backup to backup my linux install? do i just copy, home and etc for most shit?

>>107140658
If you just want config files and user data then yes, that will do. Some system services store data in /var/lib, etc, but unless you're running a database server or something you don't need to back that up.

For Mint users here, should i reinstall mint but xfce edition? Or stay on cinnamon for daily use
I want a cooler and light weight RAM usage, like 1.1Gb idle

>>107140879
Personally I'd use the MATE edition

>>107140879
just uncomposited openbox

I've seen arch linux booting in under a minute on 15 years old hardware, i want to give it a try on my gaming rig

problems:
>nvidia GPU

questions:
>will i face performance issues?
>should i just go with steamOS?

>>107140966
SteamOS does not really support NVIDIA as far as I know. It's meant for the Steam Deck. You should just pick something and roll the dice, you'll have NVIDIA issues at some point regardless so start with Arch if you like it and if it doesn't work for you then try Mint.

>>107140966
arch supports nvidia out of the box, you just need to install if from official repos.

>will i face performance issues?
you won't get fancy game specific fixes in the driver. General compute should work better on linux.

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finally getting around to moving everything on my main pc and putting troonix on it since windows 10 died last month and I was thinking I'd just install mint. I've used it before but that was at least 3 or 4 years ago, why should or shouldn't I do it and if not what should I use?

>>107140966
Linux in general will boot in under a minute on 2010 hardware. This isn't Arch specific.

im tired of constantly trying to get video media to play in games. fine. I just wont watch anything.

>>107141029
Have you tried using proton-ge-custom? One of the main things it tries to fix is video media working properly.

>>107141029
hasn't proton solved that issue yet?

>>107141036
>>107141037
>ge-custom
no I just use GE. not seeing it in protonplus. wait is custom just normal GE?
https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom
yeah so I am using it. latest too. used the nobara codec wizard after so maybe that fixed it. will see whenever a new cinematic happens if ever

>>107141054
GE had a proton and a wine version, but the later was abandoned in favor of this new umu thing the dev is working on. (Tried it once, didn't work for whatever reason, didn't put effort into trying to fix it)

man I just tried out Cosmic in a VM and that shit is literally just Dollar General macOS. Who thought this was a good idea?

>>107137490
Bump
>>107140879
I like XFCE. MATE there isn't as much help online if you wanted to tweak it (in my experience).

>>107134025
pay for ZorinOS

I have a dual monitor setup in which I have replaced a monitor with a tv and made the secondary monitor the new primary and now the text on i3bar, dmenu, and tray tooltips is tiny. This did not happen on first boot after replacement, only after a reboot. My thought was something to do with which was set as primary at boot together with its dpi or something but I think the monitor was primary both times (DP configured as primary in X11 conf, not HDMI). I'm not sure where to look or what to search for info on this, config files for whatever I could think of were not forthcoming. I have a Debian minimal install with lightdm and i3.

how come emerge --sync is causing git to want credentials?

>>> Syncing repository '...' into '/var/db/repos/...'...
/usr/sbin/git fetch origin --depth 1
Username for 'https://github.com': 

>>107142106
There was a news entry for that. You have to either enter the credentials of the gentoo developers to your repo config or change the sync mechanism to e.g. rsync. At least this goes for the official gentoo repo.
However, I get this same issue for the steam overlay, and I'm not sure how I should configure it for it to work.

>>107142137
guess i didn't really understand it. i removed and re-added all the repos and now they seem to sync fine (including steam-overlay)

>>107135072
American culture is just a fork of English culture.

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I tried installing gentoo and failed
I am not worthy anymore of posting on this board and will thus retire from it
so long, folks

>>107142428
where'd you fail?

>>107142441
well first I selected the wrong stage3 file (got arm64 when I needed amd64), then I mistakenly followed the procedure to activate uki in install-kernel without actually needing it, so I tried removing it and probably fucked a few conf files doing so
then I tried to compile the kernel but it failed and since my client didn't support scrolling I couldn't see the error and what command to use to see the log
so I considered myself a failure and thought that I'd try again some other time but this time use ssh to at least get a good view of what I'm doing
it was in a VM anyway so nothing lost really except a bit of time, though I had a lot of fun
to be fair I don't really see the whole procedure as very difficult if you're aiming for a basic setup and can read instructions, I was just distracted and make mistakes

>>107142502
it's a bit unfortunate "arm64" and "amd64" look so similar
>then I tried to compile the kernel but it failed and since my client didn't support scrolling I couldn't see the error and what command to use to see the log
the kernel virtual terminals used to support scrolling, but it was removed a while back. you could use something like tmux instead which is what i like to use which can be scrolled. emerge also mentions where it puts the build log at the end of failed merges which you should able to see

>>107142527
>>107142502
oh and if you don't know how to view a long text file in a scrollable/searchable manner, use "less -R" (press "/" to search, this is a common search key in many text-based programs, the "-R" lets ansi escape sequences be interpreted, that is, you can see coloured text)

>>107142428
same here, it feels especially bad because the handbook is so easy to read for the most part

>>107142527
yeah especially on links lol, it's not as easy to read as modern days web browsers
>you could use something like tmux
actually yeah ! I used it when looking at some doc but didn't consider using it for just scrolling

>>107142571
I tried using less but it didn't seem to work with emerge

>>107142618
>I tried using less but it didn't seem to work with emerge
i mean use less on the build log when emerge is done, less isn't suited for interactive stuff, but tmux is

>>107142571
>the "-R" lets ansi escape sequences be interpreted, that is, you can see coloured text)
this changes everything

what do anons use for nightlight? is there something better than gammastep? anyone use wluma?

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>>107131619 (OP)
what are the widgets/programs in picrel? I mean, aside from the usual ones like volume, date and wifi.
>>107139457
Artix Linux. All the programs I want are available right there, doesn't break and it even multiple gui install options.

>>107142777
I turn the lights off at night

>>107142777
>using your computer at night
okay, nerd

>>107142777
i use redshift

>>107142777
whatever the gui default for cinnamon is

>>107142923
>>107142926
>he thinks you use the nightlight only at nighttime
retards spotted
>>107142933
gammastep is a fork of that..

>>107143131
>gammastep is a fork of that..
ok, haven't heard of it

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Problem: Fluidsynth is ignoring my config files in both

/etc/default

and

~/.config/fluidsynth

. I can launch it by passing it the shell arguments like this:

fluidsynth -a pipewire -r 48000 -g 1 -C 1 -R 1 /path_to_soundfont/rlndgm.sf2 /path_to_midi_file/tunes.mid

but launching it on its lonesome gives me the error

ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1000:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
fluidsynth: error: Failed to open the "default" audio device
Failed to create the audio driver. Giving up.

I have looked for an answer online but haven't found it yet. I'm on 1:2.5.1-dmo1 (debian multimedia repo). Can anyone help please?

>>107143131
>uses nightlight during daytime
what a dumbass lol
if it was supposed to be used during daytime it would have been called daylight
people don't think anymore

>>107143267
Remove the stuff you've changed in /etc/default and post ~/.config/fluidsynth. Also how are you launching it? Daemon mode with fluidsynth.service? Do you want to use it for some game or just to fuck around with some midis? (I'm asking because for wine you need to use -a pulseaudio, otherwise it won't use it, make sure to have pipewire-pulse installed)

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>>107143530
>Remove the stuff you've changed in /etc/default
Done
>post ~/.config/fluidsynth

SOUND_FONT=/path_to_soundfont/rlndgm.sf2

OTHER_OPTS='-a pipewire -r 48000 -g 1 -C 1 -R 1'
>how are you launching it? Daemon mode with fluidsynth.service? Do you want to use it for some game or just to fuck around with some midis?
I started looking into it because dosbox won't play game MIDIs. I can launch fluidsynth just fine from the terminal with the shell arguments I posted above and can play midi files. So I concluded the problem must be that fluidsynth on its own doesn't call the right arguments, which I tried to fix by using the config file. I then noticed it was ignoring the config files.
I have not used the daemon
>make sure to have pipewire-pulse installed
it is installed

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>>107143577
Update: I have tried

systemctl --user start fluidsynth.service

. By looking at its status, I can see it definitely 100% reads

~/.config/fluidsynth

, because it picks up on my changes whenever I restart it (for example, switching the driver from pipewire to pulseaudio). But the question remains: how do I make the instance of fluidsynth called by games or through the shell actually listen to that config?

>>107143577
On dosbox you need to run fluidsynth as a daemon and connect via alsa ports in dosbox.conf (midiconfig=). On dosbox staging you just need mididevice=fluidsynth and soundfont=/path_to_soundfont/rlndgm.sf2 since fluidsynth is already integrated (also it's just better, comes with crt shaders and mt32 emulation ootb)

>>107143713
I am on dosbox staging already and have those options set as you described. Still nothing

I'll do a sanity check and install another game, see if it's not just this particular one being fucky with MIDIs

>>107143342
it's easier on my eyes, retard.

>>107143731
Oh, is mpu401 set to intelligent? It sounds more like the game is misconfigured, re-download it from exodos and try again (they already handle all of the audio configs for you), it's up on myrient.erista me if you don't want to torrent

after updating gentoo, pytorch doesn't work

> python -c "import torch; print(torch.cuda.is_available())"
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
    import torch; print(torch.cuda.is_available())
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/torch/__init__.py", line 427, in <module>
    from torch._C import *  # noqa: F403
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ImportError: /usr/lib64/libtorch_hip.so: undefined symbol: hipblasCgeqrfBatched

i don't know enough about torch/rocm to know what to check, it just worked until now

>>107143731
>mpu401 set to intelligent
Yes it is
>It sounds more like the game is misconfigured
It was. I was being a dumbass and selecting Soundblaster in the setup phase instead of the MPU401 one. Thanks anon, turns out it wasn't a linux problem at all.

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>>107144007
noice