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Hey guys, I've heared that there was once a zellig IB. Is this true?

If there isn't, what's stopping us from making one (atleast as a bunker site for the moment when froot decides to get AIDS)?
There was zellig.party but it was raided by 'jakkers, causing it to shut down.

If anyone wanted to create zellig IB, the domain ongezellig.nl is available. It will be funny if we own that domain for our own IB doe

 155120
>>155119
that would be gemmy. I may be interested in helping as a janny or smth, if anyone is interested in hosting it.

 155122
gemerald idea

Maybe not ongezellig.nl

 155195>>155199
>>155192
FROOT FUND THIS

 155198>>155199
>>155192
it says one time doe, worth it I say

 155199>>155200
>>155198
>>155195
So what do we do? We just gather some 990€? Where are we going to get that much money? How are we going to gather them?

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>>155199
I may sound like a jew, but there must be some cheaper alternatives.

 155209>>155211
>>155200
no you’re completely right - very little chance for either

1. anyone pays a thousand Euros for the domain
2. ‘ligaryans get together to fund it

 155211>>155214
>>155209
I say let's settle for cheaper one. If our board become popular and got enough donations, we should go for that domain

 155214>>155218
>>155211
Sounds like a plan. But I don't think it would necessary to buy that domain, if we get popular (lmao)

Anyways, is there a zigle.zogle/soyzellig.party domain or something simulare?

>>155214
I checked on WHOIS lookup and soyzellig.party is an avaivable domain so chudjaks go to work setting da site up

>>155218
Marge, how do I install vichan?

 155223>>155229
>>155222
zelligaryan, im not tech savy at all i know some of you zelligGODS have been on the internet since teh 4cuck was created, ask the tech savy gemsters.

>>155218
Wow, it's actually cheap (eventho its a monthly subscription)

>>155222
>>155223
Eventho I have no idea what I'm doing, I saw a youtube tutorial on how to set up a IB site. It doesn't look that complicated. I might give it a try (prob will be raided with 'p in the first 5 minutes but whatever lol). Maybe we should somehow group up and communicate thoughy?

 155230
>>155119
There are alot of domains avaliable tbh and even cheap, like .eu

>>155118 (OP)
Zelligsisters inshallah I will buy the domain

 155233>>155237
>>155229
if you're willing to spend money on it, you could always give it a shot.
and if it gets spammed with 'p or the site becomes more dead than the r/soyjaks 'dit
then hey atleast you tried.
btw you can make me a mod im a sane individual and can be trusted with such powers

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>>155231
>btw you can make me a mod im a sane individual and can be trusted with such powers

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>>155231
soynigger there is no way you'd actually buy a site for 1 thousand go back to /psy/

 155236
>>155234
Wrong reply chud…

>>155235
Anyways sister we can either be a group and send in money for ongezellig.nl or like we can get a rich chud to buy it, best thing I can do is a cheap domain thought like .net, .eu

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>>155233
I do have money, and it's not that expensive for a monthly sub. I just need some time to set it up.

I will give info if I make anything out of it.

As for mods, I will think about it later. I need a IB first.

 155238
>>155237

Let's go sister! I'll try to fund you if I can

What's the point of a dedicated 'zellig site doe?
We already have our place here on /qa/, and we own it rent free. Why pay for a worse service?

 155241>>155243
>>155237
love to hear it zelliggod, if u want to make me mod contact me at
zelligster@gmail.com
and yes i literally just made that gmail acc.

 155242>>155250
>>155239
because we're getting overshadowed by furniggers and bronieggers too. + froot is hostile to zelligsters we need to secure out future for zelliggods and have a safe space

>>155239
I was thinking for it to be more like a bunker, where if shit goes down, zelligaryans will have a place where they can go.
Ever since Kuz got aids, 'zelligs have been persecuted. Doll removed the banner and promoted some rouge jannies. Froot also is anti-lig. We need a "safespace".

>>155241
Alright, I will send you a mail.

 155244
>>155243
great zelligster, now go work on setting up the hecking valid site, ill check the arty and mail when i can.

>>155229
Make it text only at first if you don't have proper moderation staff.
Also, please don't allow people to sexualize the characters.

 155248
>>155246
actually a hecking good idea tho, maybe we could make it so that only approved users can post images.

>>155246
Yeah, 'orn will not be allowed on the site at all. It's satanic shit that brings you away from God. nuff said.

 155250>>155252
>>155242
We're winning on /qa with more and more of the catty being orange. The strategy is simple: post new 'zellig threads whenever you can, and bump old threads that wandered too far.
This way you steadily increase the amount of 'zellig on the catty because the threads that are pushed out by new 'zellig are all non-'zellig.
Also is Froot hostile to us? Didn't xhe delete /zellig/ specifically so we stay on the /qa/ so it's not dead?

 155252>>155256
>>155250
i get ur reasoning but as he said it would function more as a bunker and tbh i dont think we can stand up to the furniggerwave much longer, we need to regroup.

and abt froot; yes he literally said he wanted to ban, quote "zelligtroons" (zelligGODS), dont ask for screenie cuz im a selfish little fuck that doesnt wanna dig through the arty.

 155253>>155255
>>155243
If the site is ready, announce it like this but with mymy feraljak, zoot

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>>155253
dis is the jak btw

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>>155252
I get the bunker concept, but don't pretend we're losing here. Every day there's more 'zellig on the 'log and less furnigger/frognigger/NASnigger coal
It's called winning

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>>155255
Make xer angry, like xhe just saw a nigger or samthing

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>>155257
found this on the ru dont know if IAS but i guess its close

>>155256
zelligster if froot is hostile towards us how long do you think would go before we were all suddenly and dilliberately banned without a bunker to go to? what then?

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>>155259
This is the perfect one

>>155261
Until we raided /soy/ and froot enacted operation clean stable 2.0 against us

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 155268>>155271
>>155264
its certainly a trvke that its the perfect one

abt the ban, no froot is not like that, he is an evil manipulating tyrant that will not hesitate to ban us if we go against his opinions on this heckerino dutch gem.
we NEED to secure our future for zelligsters simple as

We will be seeing you…very soon.

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>>155269
good work israeli sleeper operative.

>>155268
that guy who made frootist mymy propaganda probably did us a favor on avoiding perma from froot

>>155269
Nice. some board ideas:
/zellig/ - main 'zellig board
/soy/ - soyjaks containment board but keep it 'zellig
/qa/ - NAS/Z (Not a Soyjak/Zellig) containment board
/ai/ - Generative AI board
/shill/ - like /raid/ but focusing on shilling 'zellig

 155272
>>155271
haha gem

 155273
>>155271
he simply bought us time doe

abt the boards its oughta be the gemmiest ideas ever i support these board ideas

 155275
ill bump this rq everyone needs to see dis

 155276
>>155249
Unironically true.

 155280
bumo dis thread da world shall know

 155282>>155286
>>155269
when its made dont advertise it anywhere, just let the real retards of /qa/ know about it

 155283
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>>155271
add /davis/ because terry davis IAZ (is a zellig)

 155286>>155289
>>155282
The world shall know of us by our /shill/s

>>155285
>terry davis
niggerlish idea

 155289>>155296
>>155286
shilling can bring undesirables

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>>155289
tsmt dont let what happened to /soy/ happy to soyzellig.party

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>>155294
>no foreskin

 155299
>>155297
the cia took it

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>>155285
>>155288
I worry people will try to use the temple os oracle to "talk to God", which you should not since that is a form of divination. Divination is explicitly forbidden in the Bible. If you want to talk to God, pray, don't try to use random numbers like an occultist (Terry explicitly called it an occult oracle btw).

 155314
>>155296
exactly we need to gatekeep every aspect to create ‘posting space for ‘zelligaryans

 155324>>155351
>>155310
Who tf uses the temple OS to "talk to God"? If you are a real christian, you would be going to (an orthodox) church, pray, fast and read holy texts by the church fathers, patriarchs and saints. That's how you establish a relationship with God. Not by talking to a machine.

 155332
bump

For every zelligGODs information;
everything just getting started. please remain patient

>>155324
There's a guy on twitter who's whole account is centered around it.
Also "orthodox" (as in doctrine) or "Orthodox" (as in Eastern Orthodoxy)?

 155353>>155391
>>155351
>Also "orthodox" (as in doctrine) or "Orthodox" (as in Eastern Orthodoxy)?
whatever luke smith is

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>add /davis/ because terry davis IAZ (is a zellig)

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>>155118 (OP)
There was zellig.site too, how come nobody remembers? Was it really that long ago?

>>155353
>whatever luke smith is
That would be Eastern Orthodoxy. However, their claim to being the original church is patently false when you consider what the scriptures and early fathers say on certain key issues.
One of the most glaring issues is icon veneration. Gavin Ortlund has a good video on it mostly going over the stances of various early fathers.
"Icon Veneration is CLEARLY an Accretion!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ytYX4dXpRo
See also the attatched image (which kinda sucks because it doesn't cite exact sources).
This is also a pretty good documentary though it's much less specific. "The Failure of Eastern Orthodoxy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AplWYXFiCA

>>155391
holy shit both of those videos are hours long if anyone actually watches these in their freetime you're a huge religion nerd.
I do browse sharty for 16 hours a day, albeit

 155412>>155464
>>155397
Well I'd the say first video is absolutely worth your time. It's very well done and information dense. There's also ordered timestamps in the description, so you don't need to watch it in one sitting.

>I do browse sharty for 16 hours a day, albeit

I'm no one to judge since I make terrible use of my time, but I reccomend sparring some of that 16 hours for important issues like this.

Also, out of curiosity, what's your current spiritual state/position?

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I was there when it existed and it was literally a joke website made by arizona of all people.

>>155412
Hey thanks for asking, im a Lutheran Protestant that rarely attends church because I have to browse the Sharty, I pray to god about all the gems I’ve found here and I hope he’ll forgive me for not attending because of that.
And no I’m literally not kidding this isn’t satirecoal

 155465
>>155119
id be down to be a janny if this happens

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>>155271
glad it was of some use, I even wrote to him in hopes to find a loose alliance

 155535>>155585
>>155391
https://youtu.be/jdwr7jGUNw0
video on why icon veneration is CLEARLY Christian is twice as long therefore im right

 155539
>>155351
eastern orthodox, it is the original church

 155541>>155547
>>155388
>zellig.site
was it good?

 155547
>>155541
Not really since it was dead by the time i found out about it, if you missed it you didn't miss much

 155563>>155593
Add Massa black transquean pet, Foenkie as mod

 155566>>155605
>>155464
>Lutheran Protestant
I kinda lean Lutheran, but I'm not sure I can actually agree with it all.
>I have to browse the Sharty
Why?
If your going to an LCMS church their service is probably 1 to 1.5 hours max. It would definitely be worth sparring that time on a Sunday morning.

Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching (Hebrews 10:25 KJV).

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>>155535
Might give that a watch, but if icons really went back to the apostles then why would the Spanish synod of Elvira forbid image to be in churches? (I don't buy the assertion that they were afraid of the images being destroyed) Not to mention the other qoutes in that image which testify to early Christian thought about images.

"CANON 36
There shall be no pictures in churches, lest what is worshipped and adored be depicted on walls."
https://strannikjournal.wordpress.com/historic-confessions/81-canons-of-the-synod-of-elvira/

Regardless, if someone bows to an image, kisses it, and burns incense to it they are ipso facto worshiping it. You might say you intend to venerate the thing represented by the image, but a pagan could easily argue the same.

>>155585
you keep posting quotes by origen but wasnt he a heretic?

also your remark about paganism makes you sound like a colossal moron. its not about wether pangans worship the wood or what the wood represents, its the fact that they arent worshipping Christ. it wouldnt suddenly not be idolatry if they were worshipping their pagan gods WITHOUT wooden idols. A really retarded remark on your part that doesnt dispute the point you were trying to dispute

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>>155563
>fonkie as mod

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A bunker would just get flooded with ‘p. If zellig gets shoah’d the best option is to continue posting it anyway. Not like they can stop us

>>155566
Hey sorry I couldn’t respond quickly I was sleeping cuz although I browse the sharty I’ll still need to sleep.

Anyways maybe you’re right I should start attending regularly.
I actually have a lot of school homework and things but when I can I’ll attend

>>155600
It probably would yes. But if he does decide to make it let’s just hope that jakteens put on a halo and posts as little p as possible.
I think it would be an idea to track your ip so that we can forward it to the authorities if someone actually posts cp, but all of those things are up to him.

 155615>>155618
>>155591
Origen, or at some of his ideas, was condemned for unrelated reasons (preexistence of the soul for one) 300 years after his death. However he was a prolific and influential writer who attests to what Christians of his time believed.
I'll type a fuller response tomorrow.

 155618>>156101
>>155615
He isn't a church father, he isn't a saint. His words dont hold much authority, the video I sent you addresses that.

 155620>>155623
>>155600
>>155611
if we are going to use it as a bunker its worth considering just turning off images (banning TOR and VPNs, for posting images at the least, is a given)

>>155620
thats sounds like a good idea actually.
though maybe we could make it so that only approved users could post images, i don't know tho there's a lot of reason against it, it could be a good resort regardless

 155624>>155630
>>155623
no need to ban images or only allow approved users to post images like what Max proposed to sharty before. Just ban TOR and VPN. If not enough, implement an hourly limit on thread creation

>>155624
eh idk it feels like restricting freedom to create hourly limit, i think he should just stick to TOR and VPN ban, you're right about that one.

 155631>>155632
>>155630
not to be pessimistic but I dont think that would be a problem, we arent the most active faction

>>155631
maybe it shouldnt be an hour tho, probably like 20 minutes instead it seems more reasonable.

>>155632
The hourly limit should be reserved on extreme cases such as sudden spike in activity for no other reason than a raid

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make it so only majority orange images can be posted

>>155634
i guess but we dont always know when a raid is occuring, if all the jannies are asleep the raid could go by unnoticed and when one wakes up the site is ruined, we should be on the safe side tbh

>>155634
but alas its all up to the creator lets hope he sees this and takes it into consideration

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>>155271
add /tnd/

>>155666
gemmie idea

>>155635
does anyone have this image but shes angry its all distorted and disproportional?

>>155670
are you talking about the GIF? I think I have it somewhere, if not then sorry I looked through the 'ru and no results

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>>155670
dis is der gif if thats what youre looking for

 155679
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>>155673
nah i got the gif

>>155677
nah, I remember seeing them in some old thread, around the soypocalypse. idk if the threads are archived anywhere, if they are I could sift trough them

>>155680
sure, good luck finding it send it to me if you do i'd love to see it!

>>155651
I am reading, don't worry.

I'm working on setting up the site. I may or may not be ready by the end of the week.

Anyways, if you guys have suggestions for different topics like boards, moderation, rules ect. type them here and discuss them.


The TOR and VPN ban sounds good to me, I just need to see how to set it up. The "1 thread per hour" rule is one of the ways to kill an IB. It should only be put into practise during "special" occasions.

A zelligaryan suggested a few boards.
I think I will do it like this:
/q/ - complain and seeth
/zellig/ - Mostly IAZ with soft NAZ allowed every now and then
/soy/ - NAZ IAS board
/nate/ (hidden) - coal

I'm not sure if /shill/ or /ai/ would be a good idea. I think that having only /zellig/ for now would be the best choice.

I've also seen some opinions of the uselessness of a zellig IB. I would like to remind you that we live in times where:

1. Soyjak.party has showen to be unstable and can disappear at any moment.

2. Every admin after Kuz has shown their dislike for zellig (eventho it's sharty culture) and has made sure to repress it.

3.I have already bought the domain, fuck you.

An IB won't hurt. In fact, I see it as a place where we could store and preserve our gems better and we could organise our moves better. If the shary is down, we have a place to go. If we are fully banned (the great shill on /soy/) we have a place to go. If ANYTHING ELSE happens… we have a place to go.

God bless.

>>155755
holy thrutherald!

well i do have 1 suggestion; that we track the IP's of anyone posting CP so that we can forward it to the authorities and slowly kill out the 'p spammers by the sweet justice of the law.

What do you think?

 155776>>155778
Marge what does ib mean

 155777>>155780
>>155773
they always use proxies doe

>>155776
image board

 155779>>155783
>>155755
id be down to be a janny if this ever happens u can contact me @ Nook1488@onionmail.org

>>155777
damn ur right, I dont know a lot about computers and tech, but would it be possible to ban these proxies?

 155783>>155787
>>155773
If any zelligaryan wishes to track pedos down and deal with their proxies, then I am ok with it. I mostly just want degenerative content out of the site. Plus I don't think that reporting them to the authorities would fix anything.

>>155779
Alright, I will send you a mail

 155785>>155786
>>155773
Then you get rogue mod like Red leaking everyone IPs. I think it's better if nobody can't see anyone IP including jannies, mods, and admin

>>155785
Yeah I wasn't planning on giving it out to the users, just having it undisclosed from the users.

>>155783
I heard that there are a lot of AI filters that can filter the CP, I am not aware of any though.

btw everyone i think the site could use some rules, you WILL suggest them.

 155802>>155804
>>155799
no furniggers or ponytroons

>>155802
gemerald idea

 155805>>155807
>>155799
1. Perma for 'orn
2. Perma for tranime
3. Perma for frogs
4. Perma for furries
5. Perma for ponies

 155806
>>155799
don't exclude any posters based on outward identity as it will make the board a clique hell

 155807>>155808
>>155805
Add a 'orn contaiment board

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>>155807
Fuck no

 155809>>155810
>>155808
but if theres no containment board wont they just post on regular boards

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It ought to be an 'arty 'zelligGOD culture oriented site doe, not 'cuck
As explained here: >>155790

>>155809
Then they will be banned. There's no 'P containment board on the 'arty.

>>155808
He's may be right, but the creator says he didnt want any 'orn so there will be no containment board less he says otherwise

 155812>>155813
>>155810
i mean regular 'orn not 'p

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>>155812
'orn is evil, no reason to treat it any differently from 'p.
Also given that all 'zellig sisters are underage, all 'orn with them would be 'p by default.

>>155813
technically lolitai but thats 'p anyways

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>>155815
I really don't care about classification of 'orn, it should all be purged from earth

>>155816
thruth doe, 'ooners will be perma'd and ip'd too

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 155829>>155831
>>155817
>'ooners
Pooners or gooners?

>>155829
I meant Gooners, although pooners are just as bad.
Whenever I reffer to pooners i say ponigger instead

 155835
>>155817
holy gem

 155850
>>155755
add /davis/ for king terry (who IAZ)

 156095
>>155591
My point is that there is a distinction between the condemnation of worshipping other gods and the condemnation of worshipping idols.
1 And God spake all these words, saying, 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; (Exodus 20:1-5 KJV)

It is not merely idols of other gods that are condemned but any idol whatsoever. They were expressly forbidden to make idols of Yahweh.
15Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire: 16Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, 17The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air, 18The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth: 19And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven. 20But the LORD hath taken you, and brought you forth out of the iron furnace, even out of Egypt, to be unto him a people of inheritance, as ye are this day (Deut 4:15-20 KJV).

You might say that they were only forbidden to make idols of God because he did not manifest a form that day, but that merely begs question as to why he didn't manifest a form (he had manifested a form previously when he visited Abraham). He did not want to be worshiped through images and therefore did not manifest a form lest they be tempted to make an image (there was also no utility to taking a form in this instance, unlike the visit to Abraham). God is not suddenly ok with being worshiped through images because of the incarnation (any more than he would be if Abraham worshiped an image of the form he saw), and besides, we don't even know what Jesus looked like any more than we know what the apostles looked like.

Moreover, the Bible repeatedly mocks the very idea of worshiping images as foolish and stupid because they're lifeless matter made by men. Below are just a few such passages.

“What profit is the idol when its maker has carved it,
Or an image, a teacher of falsehood?
For its maker trusts in his own handiwork
When he fashions speechless idols (Habakkuk 2:18 NASB 1995).

They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.(Isaiah 42:17)

But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.
They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:
They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:
They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.
They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. (Psalm 115:3-8 KJV)

They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed. 10 Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing? 11 Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; yet they shall fear, and they shall be ashamed together. (Isaiah 44:9-11 KJV) Read the whole passage from 9-20 https://biblehub.com/kjv/isaiah/44.htm

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>>155591
Going back to Origen, that quotation is from Contra Celsus (Celsus was a philosopher and opponent of Christianity). In chapter 62 (chapters are more like paragraphs here) of book 7 (see pic related or click the link), Origen provides passage from Celsus' book where he says that Christians have no images, similar to the Persians. In chapter 63, Origen says Christians differ from the Persians in their reasons for not using images. Then in chapter 64, he affirms Christians do not use images because it degrades the worship of God, and reduces it to the worship of material things wrought by the hands of men and because demons take up residence in images. https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/04167.htm
If icons go back to the apostles why would an educated pagan philosopher like Celsus say that Christians don't have images and why would an educated Christian like Origen affirm this statement? If Origen was the odd one out, he should have corrected Celsus for his ignorance and stated that while most Christians have images they are wrong, but that's not the case. You can't just hand wave this historical witness because Origen believed in the preexistence of souls.

Even so, there are other clear witnesses to the lack of images. Take chapter 32 of the dialogue Octavius (published 197 A.D.) by Marcus Minucius Felix which says, "But do you think that we conceal what we worship, if we have not temples and altars? And yet what image of God shall I make, since, if you think rightly, man himself is the image of God? What temple shall I build to Him, when this whole world fashioned by His work cannot receive Him? And when I, a man, dwell far and wide, shall I shut up the might of so great majesty within one little building? Were it not better that He should be dedicated in our mind, consecrated in our inmost heart? Shall I offer victims and sacrifices to the Lord, such as He has produced for my use, that I should throw back to Him His own gift?". https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0410.htm

Hippolytus of Rome (who is considered a saint), in his Refutation of All Heresies, book 7, chapter 20, mentions certain heretics that have counterfeit images of Christ, saying, "Certain, likewise, of these (heretics) brand their own disciples in the back parts of the lobe of the right ear. And they make counterfeit images of Christ, alleging that these were in existence at the time (during which our Lord was on earth, and that they were fashioned) by Pilate." https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/050107.htm
Irenaeus similarly mentions that gnostics had images of Christ and paid it and other images the same honor as the gentiles did (Against Heresies book 1, chapter 25, paragraph 6). https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103125.htm

There are other suitable quotes in the attached image, but I'll leave it here for now. If there was an Ante-Nicaean father who approved of the cultic use of images I'd like to see it.
In summary, the worship of images is clearly contrary to both scripture and early tradition.
If you have more to say I'd still like to continue the discussion.

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https://orthodoxwiki.org/Iconography
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Iconoclasm
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Sunday_of_Orthodoxy
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Seventh_Ecumenical_Council

Dudes, you are all acting like this debate hasn't been discussed over millions of times. Read about the seventh ecumenical council, where many great theologians and bishops have gathered around do discus this VERY SAME TOPIC. Read about the times that God gave instructions on how to use imagery (the ark of the covenant, Solomons temple) and how Christ is the perfect IMAGE (i know, a spooky word) of God.

Also this thread is about ZELLIG IB. I'm not here to stare at walls of texts about a random verse from the Bible (which was composed by the Orthodox Church btw) and pull up some random interpretations (sola scriptora, because Jesus gave us the KJB translation and said "you can figure it out lmao").

When I'm done with the IB, I will make sure to add /christ/ so that we can all spam bible chapters like rabid animals.

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>>155681
this was the original, but the one im looking for is goofed up with a big juicebox and silly proportions

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>>155670
>does anyone have this image but shes angry its all distorted and disproportional?

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>>156143
 VERY much appreciated

This page is brimstone

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>>156145
Elaborate why you aren't saving 'zelligs when you should have learned by now that everything posted will NOT be archived and only (you) can prevent lost 'ligs

 156154
>>156146
youre a nigger

 156161
>>156151
meds, Mymy is not polish.
She is BVLLgARYAN

>>156146
Niggers gonna hate hate hate hate hate, and niggers gonna shake shake shake (upon hearing that tnd is occurring)
So shake it shake it up and blow your fucking brains out

 156243
>>156151
kys toilet cleaner

 156245>>156339
>>156123
33 years earlier at the Council of Hieria, 338 bishops condemned icons. The fact is, the church was moved by the opinion of whoever was emperor or empress at the time.

A council over 700 years after Christ can not create out of thin air "holy tradition" that was not present during the first 3 centuries of the church. For Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, tradition is a hat trick for whatever their church has come to believe and accept (not what the early church actually believed).

The iconography in the temple and on the ark were not worshiped. The best you got is Joshua and the elders tearing their clothes and falling down before the ark while mourning after a military defeat.

I encourage you to judge scripture and early tradition for your self and not rely on the circular authority of the Eastern Orthodox church. As for sola scriptura, I'll refer you to what Irenaeus said in the second century in Against Heresies Book 3 chapter 2 (pic related). Here for the full three paragraphs: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103302.htm

I'll also say that scripture alone just means scripture is the final authority and the only infallible one. In addition you can't just hand wave the words of scripture because someone told you it's hard to interpret.

 156251
>>156151
Meds, an overdose of meds. Mymy is NOT polish

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Hopefully we can get Massa do a Q&A in our IB

>>156331
I doubt it, but if he does it'd be a gem to remember.

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>>156245


The Council of Hieria is illegitimate though. None of the five major patriarchs at the time were represented and later on the second council rejected it.

Nobody creates holy tradition out of thin air. Holy tradition was created by saints and bishops from the beginning of the church. In fact, the early church only had holy tradition, before it created the NT and decided which book is canon and which is not. What is even canon for protestants? Luther, even tho he said that the Bible has the ultimate authority, removed books from the old testament. What is the correct interpretation of the Bible for a protestant? They scream "sola scriptora" and most of them can't agree on key theological questions. Because Christ is no longer the authority, but the individual.

Again the images were used in worship. What do you think that the ark was used for during the exodus of the israelites? What was the temple of Solomon, filled with "unholy imagery", used for? Imagery was used for worship in the correct way.

Authority of the church is the authority of Christ. There may be fallible men in it (no shit, the church is a hospital for the spiritually sick), but the church itself is infallible and is the body of Christ. For the gates of hell shall not prevail over it.

Lastly the church made the NT books and is the continuation of 2nd temple Judaism. They know the best on what is the correct way of looking at the bible. It's ignorant to think that you, a man in the 21st century, will be able to interpret books that are more then 2000 years old, come from completely different cultures, used completely different languages (they didn't have the KJB, shocking i know), all of that by yourself and without mistakes. The Bible wasn't even used by the common folk in the begging. It was used in liturgy by priests. And they gave the interpretations that were passed from bishop to bishop all the way back to the apostles.

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>The Council of Hieria is illegitimate though. None of the five major patriarchs at the time were represented and later on the second council rejected it.

>Nobody creates holy tradition out of thin air. Holy tradition was created by saints and bishops from the beginning of the church. In fact, the early church only had holy tradition, before it created the NT and decided which book is canon and which is not. What is even canon for protestants? Luther, even tho he said that the Bible has the ultimate authority, removed books from the old testament. What is the correct interpretation of the Bible for a protestant? They scream "sola scriptora" and most of them can't agree on key theological questions. Because Christ is no longer the authority, but the individual.


>Again the images were used in worship. What do you think that the ark was used for during the exodus of the israelites? What was the temple of Solomon, filled with "unholy imagery", used for? Imagery was used for worship in the correct way.


>Authority of the church is the authority of Christ. There may be fallible men in it (no shit, the church is a hospital for the spiritually sick), but the church itself is infallible and is the body of Christ. For the gates of hell shall not prevail over it.


>Lastly the church made the NT books and is the continuation of 2nd temple Judaism. They know the best on what is the correct way of looking at the bible. It's ignorant to think that you, a man in the 21st century, will be able to interpret books that are more then 2000 years old, come from completely different cultures, used completely different languages (they didn't have the KJB, shocking i know), all of that by yourself and without mistakes. The Bible wasn't even used by the common folk in the begging. It was used in liturgy by priests. And they gave the interpretations that were passed from bishop to bishop all the way back to the apostles.

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>>The Council of Hieria is illegitimate though. None of the five major patriarchs at the time were represented and later on the second council rejected it.

>>Nobody creates holy tradition out of thin air. Holy tradition was created by saints and bishops from the beginning of the church. In fact, the early church only had holy tradition, before it created the NT and decided which book is canon and which is not. What is even canon for protestants? Luther, even tho he said that the Bible has the ultimate authority, removed books from the old testament. What is the correct interpretation of the Bible for a protestant? They scream "sola scriptora" and most of them can't agree on key theological questions. Because Christ is no longer the authority, but the individual.


>>Again the images were used in worship. What do you think that the ark was used for during the exodus of the israelites? What was the temple of Solomon, filled with "unholy imagery", used for? Imagery was used for worship in the correct way.


>>Authority of the church is the authority of Christ. There may be fallible men in it (no shit, the church is a hospital for the spiritually sick), but the church itself is infallible and is the body of Christ. For the gates of hell shall not prevail over it.


>>Lastly the church made the NT books and is the continuation of 2nd temple Judaism. They know the best on what is the correct way of looking at the bible. It's ignorant to think that you, a man in the 21st century, will be able to interpret books that are more then 2000 years old, come from completely different cultures, used completely different languages (they didn't have the KJB, shocking i know), all of that by yourself and without mistakes. The Bible wasn't even used by the common folk in the begging. It was used in liturgy by priests. And they gave the interpretations that were passed from bishop to bishop all the way back to the apostles.

 156386
>>156151
newGOD

 156690>>156691
 ZOOOOOOOOOOOT WHERE IS THE IB??????????????

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>>156690
its up but idk if zoot wants anyone to share the site yet

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>>156691
NEEEEEEEED ZELLIG SITE NOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW

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 IM GOING TO WIPE YOUR LOG OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU GIVE UP

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>>156700
ev&o you will get 'nished

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>>156703
doll tried

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>>156704
incompetence albeit

 156708
>>156706
you're going to be wishing that

 157321
 ZOOOOOOOOOOOT

 158215
upzellig

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 ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT WHERE IS ORANG SITE

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>>158222
The zarty is currently under development

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>>158238
DEVELOP IT FASTER

 158279
This is /qazelfurmlp/ now

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>>158283
need not imagine

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>>158266
ZOOT IS DOING HIS BEST

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>>159327
not reading allat but hey
next time I'll come to you with my theological questions since you obviously have a deeper understanding and are more capable of interpreting the bible than the church

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>thread about a hypothetical dutch cartoon website on a bald glasses man website
>theological argument about apostolic succession and aniconism erupts

frogs made a site in under a fucking day and you retards have been here for a week

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>>159336
frogniggers are a legion of terminally online autists
we are only a small clique of chronically online autists

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>>159345
i could literally setup a zellig imageboard in one second if i wanted to

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>>159346
go ahead

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>>159348
no, i don't like zellig
send me 15 euros for the domain and ill do it

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>>159336
Zoot is relatively new to coding, he’s doing his best setting up a site with as much love as possible. Please remain patient <3

>>159350
you don't HAVE to code (it helps), you literally just have to setup a vichan instance
you're not cooking from scratch

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>>159351
a lot of this stuff is like wizardry if you havent used it before.
Id rather he take his time to fully understand what hes doing and how it works, then rush it and give us some barely working, just waiting to break shitshow

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>>159351
If you’re trying to help us by giving us advice then thanks I guess, but to me it seems that you’re just complaining about the fact that someone hasn’t set up a site in a day.
Not everyone has to be able to do that, let people go their own pace, I’m sure zoot is doing his best.

 159360>>159362
this guy can literally email me and i'll have it setup in an hour

>>159360
I’m sure this is one of the first time zoot is setting up an actual website, I think we should appreciate that he hasn’t given up yet. Instead of complaining about him not having it set up in a day.

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>>159362
esl babble

 159364
>>159363
What the fuck are you even saying, what the fuck is an esl babble?

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>>159362
yes but again he can just email me and have it done now

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>>159365
Zoot doesn’t have to set up a site in a day.
And are you just trying to flex that you can set it up in a day or are you mad that he hasn’t build the lighthouse of Alexandria in a day?

 159367
>>159366
yea see you in a month zelligfag

 159368>>159369
Guys I know all of you want to see the IB ASAP, but please just wait, we can’t set up websites in a day without having some sort of problem.

>>159368
yes you can, I've done it

 159370
>>159369
Good for you mate.

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>>159369
you know you arent exactly helping by boasting about your competence

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>>159371
yes I am, I've offered to help several times

>>159372
Mate can you please just be a little more positive here

>>159375
in what manner

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>>159376
You can either just be quiet and wait, or just not nag zoot about the fact that he hasn’t built the Jeddah tower.
We’d appreciate any of those

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>>159376
not being a whiny little complainer, for one you fucking faggot
>>159375
>I am helping by offering help

 159381>>159392
you guys are already admin worshipping a site that doesnt exist

 159382
>>159380
Thanks for the assistance mate, you can send an email to zoot offering help.

 159383
Ok everyone, I’m getting quite sick of arguing with you guys.
Listen, zoot is doing his best, you’ll just have to wait.
For now post some more on qa

>>156339
>The Council of Hieria is illegitimate though.
Hieria established true doctrine (at least more than Nicaea II; I wouldn't necessarily agree with all their proclamation and certainly not their support for praying to saints) and Nicaea II established false doctrine. That ipso facto gives Hieria more legitimacy than Nicaea II.

>Holy tradition was created by saints and bishops from the beginning of the church.

And yet if I quote from saints and bishops you disregard their words. Here's one more from a letter by Epiphanius, bishop of Salamis (who is considered a saint), written in 394 A.D. and later translated into Latin by Jerome, where, in paragraph 9, he describes destroying a church curtain that contained an image because he was "loth that an image of a man should be hung up in Christ's church contrary to the teaching of the Scriptures". See pic related or click the link: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3001051.htm If icons went back to the beginning of the church surely the sainted bishop would have known that!

>What is even canon for protestants?

The books that were inspired by God. I don't have a systematic answer for how to determine that (I mean, we have the inspired writings of the apostles but was everything they wrote inspired or only things God chose to preserve? I'm not qualified to answer). Certainly tradition (and history) helps inform us of what those books are, and if a book is universally accepted by the church that is evidence (though maybe not absolute evidence).

>Luther removed books

The deuterocanonical books did not have universal acceptance. They were never apart of the Hebrew canon. Melito of Sardis did not include them in his canon (though he did not include Esther either). Athanasius was similar to Melito but he included Baruch. Jerome said in his introduction to First Kings that Wisdom, Sirach, Judith, and Tobias were not canon, though he later said in Against Rufinus that these were not his personal views "but rather the remarks that they [the Jews] are wont to make against us [AD 402]."

>What is the correct interpretation of the Bible for a protestant? They scream "sola scriptora" and most of them can't agree on key theological questions.

The correct interpretation is the interpretation intended by God. This isn't always an easy thing to figure out, but just because it can hard to discern the truth does not mean you don't have the responsibility to do so. Also, most Protestants have a bassline agreement on key essentials that you would find the ecumenical creeds (Apostle's, Nicaean, Athanasian), even if many evangelicals are sadly not very familiar with these creeds.

>Because Christ is no longer the authority, but the individual.

They make their chosen traditions the authority, many of which do not go back to the apostles any more than the traditions of the pharisees went back to Moses.

>What do you think that the ark was used for

God hovered above the mercy seat in a cloud (at least when was it in the tabernacle) and the high priest would sprinkle blood on the mercy during the day of atonement (see Leviticus 16:2 & 13-14). That's at least one of it's uses. Neither the ark itself, nor the angels on it, were worshiped. Same goes for the angelic iconography and figures in the temple. The mere presence of images does not prove anything, unless they were being worshiped.

>There may be fallible men in it … but the church itself is infallible

Those are irreconcilable beliefs. If the fallible men who lead the Church depart from scripture and apostolic doctrine then the church itself will err (at least locally/institutionally). The gates of hell will not prevail against the Universal Church, but they are not be taken lightly. The gates of hell have, and will, strike many hard blows against the Church before being ultimately defeated.

>the church made the NT books

If by the church you mean the apostles and their associates then sure.

>They know the best on what is the correct way of looking at the bible.

This is epistemologically the same as saying "trust the science". At the end of the day everyone has to determine in their in own mind (hopefully with God's help) whether or not something is true. Even if you're going to defer to some authority, you first have to use your own reason to determine if that authority is worth listening to. Both Rome and the Eastern Orthodox make exclusive claims to being the one true church invested with apostolic authority. You must personally judge the legitimacy each authority and accept or reject them based on your understanding of what the truth is. You can do this by comparing what they teach to what the scriptures and the early fathers taught. On the issue of icons, it is very clear that both Rome and the Eastern Orthodox seriously err and are thus not infallible and ought to be rejected because they require us to accept, among other things, a false claim of infallibly and to engage in great sin by venerating images (I would place prayers to saints on the same, or similar, level but that's a different topic).

>It's ignorant to think that you, a man in the 21st century, will be able to interpret books that are more then 2000 years old, come from completely different cultures, used completely different languages … all of that by yourself and without mistakes.

This is obscurantism. Just because something is hard doesn't mean it's impossible, and it's not as hard as you make it sound. You also don't have to do it by yourself. You have the early fathers, the creeds, commentaries, and hopefully a faithful church and pastor to guide you. You may not understand everything perfectly, but even Catholics and Orthodox disagree among themselves.

Also, I just want to say that there is more to Protestantism than just nondenominational evangelicalism. There are faithful Presbyterians, Lutherans, and even some Anglicans who very much do value history and tradition without placing it above scripture.

>they didn't have the KJB, shocking i know

What do you have against the KJV? It's a good translation, if you don't mind early modern English, and it's free of the gender neutral language that infects most modern translations (even the ESV, despite it being sold as not having gender neutral language). A modern translation that is free of gender neutralization is the NASB 1995 (later editions were corrupted).

>they gave the interpretations that were passed from bishop to bishop all the way back to the apostles.

The bishops/presbyters certainly tried to do that, but if we look at the records that we have for this game of telephone, such as the letter of Epiphanius, we can see that somewhere along the line this message became very much corrupted.

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>>159386
Deleted previous version and updated this because I wanted to represent Jerome's view on the deuterocanon better. It seems that he accepted it based on this qoute.

"What sin have I committed if I followed the judgment of the churches? But he who brings charges against me for relating the objections that the Hebrews are wont to raise against the Story of Susanna, the Song of the Three Children, and the story of Bel and the Dragon, which are not found in the Hebrew volume, proves that he is just a foolish sycophant. For I was not relating my own personal views, but rather the remarks that they [the Jews] are wont to make against us. (Against Rufinus, 11:33 [AD 402])."

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>>159381
>admin worship is when you dont hate someone for no fucking reason

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>>159386
>>159391
Honestly I don't really know enough, at present, to speak with confidence about the canon, it's history, and how we what the canon is.

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>>159418
>and how we what the canon is
Holy ESL

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>>159420
he spent all his EFL points on the rest of his sentence

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>>159427
>english as a first language
<english as a fourth language

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>>159428
gegerald

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>>159428
This is actually scientifically proven and peer reviewed. EFL speakers have on average lower cognitive abilities than Eurasian ESL speakers

 159431>>159433
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>>159430
learning languages improves your thinking capabilities

 159433
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>>159431
Also average westoid IQ is dropping quickly, so the gap VILL increase.

 159435
>>159430
i learnt english alongside my native language so i'm way closer to EFL despite being ESL

 159436>>159439
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>i learnt english alongside my native language so i'm way closer to EFL despite being ESL

 159438>>159440
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>i am learn englesh am stady it in skul

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>>159436
us EAFLs (english almost as a first language) got it rough

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>>159438
I look like this and say this
(even doe I don't because I learned english on the internet)

>>159439
Yup, ESL english skills but EFL IQ

 159441>>159446
>>159439
>>159440
i actually learnt it through a combination of just sitting on the internet and reading english shit within context (like comprehensible input), grammar nazis online (actually a huge fucking help i don't know why people hate them), and my parents (both bilingual) filling in the gaps for me and teaching me grammar and such

 159443>>159444
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>my parents (both bilingual)
HOLY MIDDLE CLASS something
Where the fuck are you even from?


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>>159441
my mother was an english teacher so i had that going for me, and since i was always a computer nerd i just picked up a lot of english from being chronically online
now I fear that english will come more naturally to me than my mother tongue

 159447>>159449
>>159446
oh yeah that has already happened to me and it's not great

 159448
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>>159444
IT'S A REAL SERBGOD OH MY GODDDDDDD

>>159447
I' counter this by reading books or something but i hate reading (dyslexia or something)
>>159444
fellow SerbARYAN

 159450>>159456
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>>159446
Go talk to real people then, it really works. I had a similar problem but now I don't

 159453>>159455
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>>159444
>>159449
Slavs OWN this website

 159454>>159456
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>>159449
>Боже праааавдеееее, тииии штооо спаааааааасеее
>или нешто тако

 159455
>>159453
the truth is, dvach's /int/ is not a sharty colony
the sharty is a fucking dvach /int/ colony

 159456
>>159450
>even doe chronically online
also i noticed most conversation IRL aren't very linguistically advanced, rarely do I get an opportunity to discuss something that demands more effort
>>159454
>ооод амерааааа до сад нааааас, или како год им рушимо авионе

 159458
>>159457
ITS UP

>>159457
holy dont leak the website yet chud!

 159460>>159461
>>159459
wtf was it.


>>159461
please man, its in early testing, its not done yet.

 159464
>>159461
lmao brim

 159465
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>>159461
posting it everywhere now have fun with the dos attacks

 159466
>>159461
leakcord woke up

 159467
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>>159463
Gem tier website either way

ok guys, so im sure you have all seen the RULES page now.
And its not the official page at all, for now you WILL cease your investigation!


 159470
>>159468
the official page isnt even up yet btw, and guys im sure you all are hungry for zellig IB, but please respect the work and love zoot is putting into this.

 159471
>>155118 (OP)
Archive of soyzellig.party in September 27, 2023
https://archive.md/YPgg5

>>159469
>they
>one guy
frogniggers CANNOT be serious

 159474
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>>159469
>thefrogclitty.orn
>entire site is dedicated to seething about the 'arty
rent free

 159475>>159492
>>159472
Look don't be too harsh on xem, it's like 5 posters per day spamming a dead 2015 reddit meme

 159476
>>159472
they is a heckin valid singular pronoun you stupid chud

 159492
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>>159475
their own site is so dead they dedicate their life to baiting on sharty


 159533
>>159532
goatfuckercord woke up

 159534
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>serbia is… le bad because russia is… le bad!

 159639
go upperino

 160109
its up

 160193>>160216
>>159329
Why do you ask questions when you won't even read the answers? Do you presume the questions themselves are powerful enough to prove your position? Why do you refuse to even evaluate the truth of the claims your church's authority rests on?

You might as well tell everyone to trust the science and take the vax, because there's no way you can understand science better than Dr Fauci. It's the same epistemology.
>>159386

 160205
Xisters.. the zite is up.

 160216
>>160193
im not the guy who asked, I was just making a remark on how retarded your position is

 160230
The migration age..

 160286>>160326
hello zelligaryans
is a independent booru needed? my self diagnosed autism tells me to make that…

 160326>>160327
>>160286
we just made an IB, so lets focus on that first.

 160327

 160929
zellig site goes up



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