Anna Merlan is a senior reporter at Mother Jones who covers disinformation, technology, and extremism. She joined us to discuss the Trump Administration's efforts to address the "Epstein Files" controversy and why calming supporters' anger over this issue has proven particularly challenging. We also explored how right-wing media has sought to downplay Ghislaine Maxwell's role in Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.

Links for Anna:

* Read her story in Mother Jones: How Does the Epstein Scandal End?

* Check out her book: “Republic of Lies: American Conspiracy Theorists and Their Surprising Rise to Power”

* Follow her on Bluesky: @annamerlan.bsky.social‬

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At the suggestion of one of our listeners, I put together a Spotify playlist with some of the music I've played on our episodes since the reboot. I'll try to update it periodically!

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