Do suicidal people actually go to Hell in Touhou?

people are forgetting we had this answered well before this manga even came out: Yuyuko committed suicide and got to chill in the netherworld, and it was out of grief and depression, the most common form of suicide, not some heroic sacrifice or anything else that might serve as a mitigating factor

the nether realm is likely another name for or a part of the preta realm(preta being hungry ghosts which, shes not explicitly called one but yuyuka is literally a ghost thats constantly eating in every appearance its not hard to connect the dots), generally considered the most mild of the lower realms in buddhism, since the third lower realm is the animal realm and we see its also lumped in as part of hell we can assume hell here is referring to any lower realm, not necessarily hell proper(which in buddhism is not a permanent place, you just burn off your negative karma, so even if you went to hell proper if suicide was your only sin you wont be their particularly long)

basically your gonna be constantly hungry and thirsty so it kinda sucks, but judging by yuyuka its not the mind numbing torture levels of starvation, more the "im hungry at work but my lunch breaks not for another 4 hours" kinda hungry, and even thats not that bad considering how often these idiots host parties so plenty of food and drink for you to temporarily satiate it(you also might get offerings of food from mortals to alleviate your hunger, since thats a buddhist thing)

This panel pretty much answers your question. Yes they do.

I even think she's talking specifically about those who come knowingly (knowing that it's the afterlife. It's the stands near the Sanzu River she's talking about.) to come and seek to die. In any case, that's how I understand it.

Considering that Gensokyo's afterlife seems mostly based on Buddhism, probably not in all cases but definitely in most of them

If the death is by a monk looking to achieve detachment, such as the monks who would self mummify, that's probably fine, but suicide to escape the effects of negative karma would just bring about more negative karma (obligatory I am not an expert)

Almost all religions and mythology view suicide as a sin or insult since it's denying the gift of life.

Isn't that a common belief between mainstream faiths?

In every world religion with an afterlife, every single one, committing suicide outside of the context of voluntary self sacrifice is an automatic hell penalty offense.

This is most likely because when the rules were being made up written into stone, someone realized how bad an idea it would be to say everything good happens when you die but not have a rule against cheating (ie suicide) to get there before you lived a full life and had a chance to pay taxes / have kids for the population / die in a war.

Look up the early history of the catholic church’s evolving position on suicide, it got to a point where women would intentionally drown children so that they could be put to death (and still go to heaven because they got their last rights before hand) and so did the child that they murdered (since they’re outside the age of accountability). Eastern religions have had to deal with these loopholes much, much longer than western religions, and having a system where you reincarnate for a do over sounds great until you realize that some people are going to look at that and think they can just self terminate for a reroll in the gacha game of life.

Tldr yeah sounds about right.

Your post answers your own question

There's no hope for us bros 😭

sadly yes. its a commen thing in a lot of belief systems. its something i've allways hated. espetialy sense i have atmpted to end my own life. living is hell enough for suicidal people being sent to hell is just telling them death is not the end to any suffering.

Damn, reading that picture actually made me a bit sad tbh. I know it's nothing to be taken seriously especially in Touhou. But ouch lol. The thought of that is depressing. Gensokyo is already messed up for humans as it is

I've kinda got an impression that it's Komachi specifically who has this beef with suicidal people. When you first meet her in PoFV, for almost every character she assumes that they came there to kill themselves, and tries to disway them from doing so, saying that suicide is a foolish thing to do. In fact, she says that she straight up drowns the souls of suicide victims in the Sanzu river without even taking them to the other side.

But yeah, this whole view of suicide as a "sin", rather than a societal/systemic failure it actually is, is deeply ghoulish, and I desperately hope that not what ZUN himself believes.

Apparently, I guess

This didn't come as a surprise but i'm wondering about who dosen't go to hell at this point. Hell, if they survived that, they'd probably just reincarnate, heaven is ridiculously high fee in the series that you'd either need to become a god, get enlightened or spend a millenia of astetic hermit training fighting off demons once/twice per century to get there while bypassing the yama who're mostly a lost cause.

i think komachi's just a dick, she tells multiple characters to commit suicide in pofv.

I regret reading this thread and hope you all find meaning in your existence

This has severely impacted my view of EikiShiki :(  I know depending on the circumstances and the religion you may get to heaven even though you commited suicide, but I can’t just glaze over the “Most” go to hell.

What a pieace of bullshit. People kill themselves for not to experince anything from this world,

Beacuse they fell like whatever is going to happen after them will be better then anything they could possibly imagine, therfore their world is the original hell, the lowest of their world line potential.

In some cases suicide if seen as highest form of human sacrifice, highest form of human individualistic expression, it can be defenied as good or bad to society. Nonetheless its bad for nature of our human species.

Treat this thread like you want, I think I a llittle bit stuffed now.

Feel free to comment.

sorry for lingo. **

Yes. And they become cursed human-trees, who are doomed to be tormented by harpies. /ref

If me wanting to meet Komachi means spending an eternity in horrible hellfire... well, thats the price that has to be paid I guess.

i thought that was what PCB's Stage 6 was?

"The defiled of the Impure Land" - as in, defiling their own body

"Seeking rebirth in the Pure Land"

like a niche reference to Dante Aligheri's Forest