r/Misotheism

God is a cruel psycopath. Why did he create this disgusting, cruel, terrible world? If he wanted he could create heaven or a nice place, yet he intentionally created hell on earth, nightmare that you can't wake up from, horror movie in real life. I hate him so much, words can't describe how much I hate him.

I'm in my 30s and I'm schizophrenic and suffer from this terrible illness.

Why would God create sickness? Is he just that evil that he wishes his creation to suffer for nothing?

The way I see the state of this world, I can only assume that God is evil, am I right or wrong?

Since misotheists hate God, do you think we (misotheists) are destined for the lake of fire?

Instead of helping people build positive things in life he relentlessly attacks any effort towards progression. Any split second or opportunity for something to go wrong is expedited in the most clear manipulative way.

It is clear god has an agenda and it’s not for good. More pointless chaos.

I thoroughly believe God is the equivalent of an asshole 14 year old playing GTA with no respect for people’s struggles, just getting off on random chaos.

1. As far as myself, I’ve lived in a state of abject suffering for my entire life.

2. Being abused physically, sexually, and emotionally by those who should have supported me.

3. Having my body ravaged by a skin condition that made merely living a challenge.

4. Being shamed where ever I went for disfigured appearance.

5. Suffering the pain of my condition constantly and engaging in intense self hatred for my appearance.

6. Being struck down successively despite an animalistic, furious, and unparalleled worth ethic.

7. Being pushed nearly to sui*ide multiple times in my life, starting at the age of 11 because the pain even then was too much to endure.

8. Being forced against my will, with no chance at combating, to forfeit my health, my purpose, my well-being, and all progress as I knew it.

9. Living with joint pain that brought me to tears, severe mental health issues, crippling anxiety, migraines that made eating and even urinating impossible, abject hopelessness, and immense fatigue.

10. Having to endure financial coercion, ownership, and the total suppression of my will and dignity.

11. Deprived of love and human touch, even from my own family since the beginning of my life.

Like spread hate towards god in social media, held strikes in public

The free will excuse implies that god favors freedom over consent. (The same way nature favors pro-action over reaction) This explains how assault and predation are easy compared to self defense. It takes a copious amount of training or genetic advantage to be able to reliably defend oneself. It takes no effort at all to grab a knife and gouge somebody in the eye, for example.

Theists claim the universe is fine tuned for life. This is not the reality. If anything, the universe was fine tuned for death. The only reason there is life is because death can not exist without it. Furthermore, the universe may have been fine tuned for suffering. You can not have suffering without sentient life. Life was not the goal. Sentient life was not the goal. If the universe was fine tuned by something, pain and suffering was its goal and it succeeded.

Sometimes it feels like this world is ruled by a god who enjoys imbalance, who gives comfort, beauty, and success to some, while letting others drown in endless pain and humiliation. If he truly is evil, then his love must also have a purpose. Maybe his love isn’t mercy, it’s a weapon. A cruel reminder that he can bless, but chooses not to, to make the suffering of others more unbearable. Maybe he loves a few just to make the rest feel more cursed.

I often wonder this - what decides who gets his favor and who gets his cruelty? Is it random, or is there a hidden logic behind the suffering we go through?

Christianity does not usually make people warm-hearted. It rather makes them cold-hearted—those who lose their human feelings. Some believe that being generous and doing good is a sign of a warm heart, but in reality those good deeds are nothing but moral conditioning to follow the divine command. What makes them appear warm is not the unrestricted practice of goodness, but conformity for promise of heavenly reward.

At Christianity's lowest ethical center, love and compassion are not the same. Love is strictly reserved for "love for God," whereas compassion, when directed towards those whom God did not choose, renders itself theologically irrelevant. That is, their compassion is selective. It is subject to divine justice, and each time it opposes God's judgment, it becomes sin at once.

It is for this reason that in the Christian world no human can ever be truly "pitied." Even if a human becomes a victim or suffers, his or her suffering is redefined as a "just consequence" in the divine order. The victim is simply a sinner, and suffering is an inevitable fruit of sin. In such a situation, then, to pity in the name of God is a contradiction. Divine justice is ever more important than compassion; when sympathy threatens to replace justice, the believer must relinquish sympathy.

Finally, then, the Christian heart is a chill wrapped in warmth. Even when they feel the sting of sympathy, they immediately restrain themselves—for that emotion may be against God's will. Therefore, the believer is a censor of moral feeling. Human moral sensibility is restrained ahead of God's greater justice. Under this conditioned emotional state, another person's suffering is no longer an ethical occurrence—it is merely another act in the play of divine management.

If someone, while suffering, audacity enough to swear or resent God, Christians don't try to understand him. He is just a proud sinner, deserving of punishment. No matter how kind or sincere he might have been, there is only one thing that buries his soul: he had rejected God. For this, he will eternally burn. This unforgiving logic is the true Christian love.

Some Christians argue, "But we do have compassion." But that is self-delusion. True compassion does not quantify another's suffering in terms of God's wrath. Anyone who is compassionate must necessarily be morally uncomfortable with the doctrine of eternal punishment. Compassion and eternal damnation cannot go together.

What, then, does Christianity demand?

It demands the abolition of moral sensibility. Human feeling is not divine wisdom, but temptation. Human sympathy is felt as a defiling impurity disturbing divine order. At last, the faithful must forsake the heat of the heart, for the heat is contrary to divine justice.

Christianity proclaims, "God is love." But that love never laments human suffering. It is meaningful only so far as it is for the preservation of divine order. It is never warm; it operates through obedience, choice, and cold distinction.

Lastly, Christian love is not pity but restraint, and Christian justice is not clemency but subordination.

Their redemption is a cold, calculating peace—bought at the cost of a warm human heart.

God is all things objective and is seated at the focal point of the universe.

God is the standard of judgement, “fairness”, and “justice”.

“Justice” in the colloquial term simply does not exist as it necessitates an applied standard of “fairness” to all beings.

Justice is what is right in the eyes of God, not what is right in the eyes of creation.

Justice is “just” because it is what it is in accordance to the will of the Godhead.

Justice isn’t what I think it is and it isn’t what you think it is - it’s what God thinks it is.

We all serve God’s purpose in some way, shape, or form.

We are all submissive to uncontrollable circumstances that all culminate to “justice”.

In the words of the Scriptures, “I loved Jacob, but I rejected Esau.” Are we saying, then, that God was unfair? Of course not! For God said to Moses, “I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose.” So it is God who decides to show mercy.

• Romans 9:13-21

The truth is God is completely “just” and “fair”.

God is the metaphysical focal point seated in the center of all creation.

He is the objective, so what is subjective to him is indeed entirely objective.

In the experience of many beings, reality is egregiously, massively, immensely, and overwhelmingly unjust and unfair.

But in God’s eyes it is completely “fair”.

We all serve the Godhead’s purpose.

For some, torment, suffering, and bearing life’s unjustifiable burden is the reality.

For others, an uplifting and “fair” life comprises their reality.

Put simply, Torture and suffering are entirely just and moral.

Happiness is entirely moral.

The assignment of purpose is determined by placement on a fore-ordained spectrum of favoritism.

And still going strong! To celebrate I’d like to share my story of how I got here with you guys.

I was raised Catholic by my parents who were culturally religious but did not take it super seriously. In my early teens, I figured that if there really is a God who created us, I better learn what He wants from me. And if the Bible really is the Word of God, I better learn what it has to say. After some studying, I concluded that Protestantism comes closer to biblical teachings and so shifted my beliefs.

But many questions remained unanswered and I kept on trying to learn more. I wanted to serve God, because I cared about being “rational”, and saw serving my Creator as the only way to have an objective and logical purpose.

My mid teens were a time of confused wandering. I bounced from one denomination to the other, having a hard time understanding what the Bible really was trying to teach. I also completely lacked the courage to publicly express my faith and couldn’t resist sexual sin to save my life. Couldn’t even get myself going to church.

By my late teens, I became frustrated with God and trying to do something that seemed impossible for me to succeed at, and pretty much gave up, accepting I was a hopeless case.

But when I was 20, on some random day, I was unexpectedly “called” by God and became a born again. I suddenly realized that in spite of how bad I had been, He chose to save me from my sin and draw my heart to Himself (as written in John 6:44). Because of the realization that my coming to faith was none of my own and all thanks to Him, I became a monergist/calvinist and was in complete awe of His soevereignty.

For months I felt amazing, I could feel His Holy Spirit living in me, loving me and turning me into a better person. I could feel God loving me with an eternal love and naturally loved Him in return with immense love (hardly an hour went by without me thinking about God in those days). I suddenly acquired the ability to interpret Scripture and a self-control of steel to effortlessly resist any temptation.

It truly was a time of inexpressible joy (even if at that time I was already having questions about Hell and salvation and feeling a sense of guilt over it, it most stayed below the surface). I was in this state for about 2 years.

But after some time, the closeness started to fade and although it really hurted, I kept on loving and trusting God and figured it was merely a test of faith. As time went on and the distance between God and myself became worse, the enduring pain started to make me a little more wary of God and His motives....

Since God was soevereign over salvation, it was strange to me why He wouldn’t just lead everyone to faith so that no one would have to go to Hell. Slowly I realized why He deliberately let most people die unsaved: Romans 9:19-24 teaches that God predestines people to go to Hell just so He can show off how powerful and “righteous” He is by punishing them for the sins He predestined them to do!

Everything that happens to humans -especially going to heaven or hell- is all ultimately to glorify God. By cursing us with a sin nature and letting the world suffer, He can either play the hero and save us or the judge and condemn us and He does all of this just to feed His own galaxy-sized Ego!

After fully realizing and accepting this, the stabbing pain in my heart I felt for months (because of His neglect) became even worse. While I painfully waited out of love for Him, He was merely using me as one of His countless “glorycows”, while at the same time likely planning to send my parents and my friends and most everyone who was ever kind to me, to Hell just to show how “righteous” He is, and get glory out of their eternal suffering.

This realization made me feel heartbreak, betrayal, existential crisis, fear for loved ones, survivors guilt and powerlessness all at once. It initially made me wish I could stop existing, all the while realizing my soul would inevitably keep on existing forever....

The shock and build-up pain, was enough to eventually invert the immense Love I had for God, into equally pure Hatred. For the first time in my life, I sincerely wished never-ending pain on someone (eventhough I’m normally not all a violent person). And what a relief this was! Finally relieved from tension of loving a monster to whom I mean nothing!

I acquired a new reason to live: to make an honest attempt at getting revenge on God and neutralizing Him from ever hurting anyone again (something I want to try when I face Him during the Judgement Day). Whether I will succeed or not, the mere act of making an attempt is meaningful to me, it gives my pain meaning, it relieves me from the guilt of feeling like a bystander and it is a means to express that humanity matters to me and that I do not think what God is doing is acceptable. Coming to this point actually felt kind of amazing; I could feel my human spirit burning inside me, crying out for vindication!

I learned to embrace pain itself as an integral part of my eternal existence and a passionate fuel I could use to be more empathetic and as a driving force for my goals. This realization was game-changing and made me feel lowkey invincible. Because if not even suffering itself can harm you anymore, but has become a thing you can use to your advantage, what’s left to stop you?

Still, I needed to vent these intense emotions I have been bottling up for a long time, so I looked up places on the internet where other misotheists were and eventually found this subreddit. After putting out my thoughts in a post and seeing other people acknowleding and empathzing with them, I felt sooo much better! I was so happy to have found this place!

“You shall not murder”. (Exodus 20:13)

“Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea”. (Matthew 18:5-6)

Christians often paint YHWH and Jesus as loving and caring father figures who would never harm innocent people, especially children, and they often cite verses like the ones above to show off how much they love kids especially and would never hurt them. Unfortunately these verses contradict YHWH’s very own actions towards children many times throughout the Bible to such an egregious degree that I have decided to make a compilation of all, or at least most of, the times that it is directly mentioned or implied that YHWH harms kids in some way.

Also, the fact that Jesus calls for people that harm kids to be sunken to the bottom of the ocean is laughably ironic considering that he says that he is one with YHWH (John 10:30) and YHWH in the Old Testament clearly shows him murdering and abusing children in some of the most gruesome, vile and cruel ways imaginable so shouldn’t Jesus/YHWH be the ones being drowned in the depths of the sea by their own logic?

[Here are all, or most of, the instances of Children Dying, Being Tortured, or Otherwise Being Severely Harmed in some way by YHWH]:

(In Genesis, YHWH floods the world for ‘being wicked’ even though he should’ve already known about the upcoming wickedness due to his omniscience and also due to him being allegedly ‘all powerful’ he could’ve stopped humanity from being wicked via a more peaceful and loving manner but instead he decides to spare one family and kill everyone else which most certainly included all the children and babies that these ‘wicked humans’ created. Why would an ‘all loving’ god kill babies and kids in this instance when he knew that he could’ve saved them from ‘sin’ if he really wanted to?)

“Every living thing that moved on land perished - birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth.Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark”. (Genesis 7:21-23)

(Similarly to the Genesis flood, Yahweh kills all the babies and children of the Egyptians when again he could’ve solved this in a more peaceful manner due to him being all powerful and capable of doing anything at a whim. The book of Exodus is probably one of the most damning instances of YHWH not being all powerful or all knowing due to him needing the Israelites to have lamb blood on their homes so he won’t confuse them for the Egyptians, even though he should already know who was who due to him being omniscient, and how he chose violence in the worst way possible even though he could’ve not had this scenario happen at all)

“At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead”. (Exodus 12:29-30)

(In these horrific verses, YHWH threatens the Israelites that if they disobey him he’ll curse them in all sorts of hellish ways but scarily he states that not only will their children become captive slaves to other nations around them but also that because of the psychological torment that their enemies throw onto them, they will begin to eat the flesh of their children while YHWH watches. The idea of Yahweh threatening people with eating their children isn’t only in these verses and can be seen a few other times throughout the Old Testament which make you wonder, why would an all loving god threaten people with forcing them to eat their own children if they disobey him?)

“However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you… The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him… Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand… You will have sons and daughters but you will not keep them, because they will go into captivity…

Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you. Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. The most gentle and sensitive woman among you… will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For in her dire need she intends to eat them secretly because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of your cities… (Deuteronomy 28:15, 20, 32, 41, 53-57)

(Yet another example of YHWH threatening people that disobey him that they’ll be forced to eat their kids and that they’ll be taken away from them):

“But if you will not listen to me and carry out all these commands, and if you reject my decrees and abhor my laws and fail to carry out all my commands and so violate my covenant, then I will do this to you: I will bring on you sudden terror, wasting diseases and fever that will destroy your sight and sap your strength… If you remain hostile toward me and refuse to listen to me, I will multiply your afflictions seven times over, as your sins deserve. I will send wild animals against you, and they will rob you of your children, destroy your cattle and make you so few in number that your roads will be deserted… If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters”. (Leviticus 26:14-16, 21-22, 27-29)

“I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another’s flesh because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them’.” (Jeremiah 19:9)

(Remember the commandment from Exodus exclaiming how you must “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you”? Well here’s what happens to those who don’t honor their parents. They get stoned to death with YHWH’s full approval)

“If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid”. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

(In this story, King David had an adulterous relationship with a woman named Bathsheba and had her husband Uriah killed in battle on purpose so that he would never find out about the pregnancy that they both started. So Yahweh decides to punish David by killing their son with an agonizing disease that kills him slowly over the course of seven days and Christians try to say that “Oh the child is in heaven now, it’s okay” even though YHWH murdered an innocent child just to get back at someone who crossed him. You’ll notice this over and over again throughout these stories where YHWH could’ve solved these matters peacefully using his alleged infinite power and knowledge and “love” but instead he always chooses violence, torment, revenge and emotional abuse to get his way. This is not a loving god, this is a vengeful, monstrous dictator who always goes after innocents as payback for being ‘slighted’ in his eyes)

“After Nathan had gone home, the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and spent the nights lying in a sackcloth on the ground. The elders of his household stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he refused, and he would not eat any food with them.

On the seventh day the child died. David’s attendants were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they thought, “While the child was still living, he wouldn’t listen to us when we spoke to him. How can we now tell him the child is dead? He may do something desperate.” (2 Samuel 12:15-18)

“Then the Lord called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit at his side and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.”

As I listened, he said to the others, “Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter the old men, the young men and women, the mothers and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” So they began with the old men who were in front of the temple.

Then he said to them, “Defile the temple and fill the courts with the slain. Go!” So they went out and began killing throughout the city”. (Ezekiel 9:3-7)

“You are my war club, my weapon for battle - with you I shatter nations, with you I destroy kingdoms, with you I shatter horse and rider, with you I shatter chariot and driver, with you I shatter man and woman, with you I shatter old man and youth, with you I shatter young man and young woman, with you I shatter shepherd and flock, with you I shatter farmer and oxen, with you I shatter governors and officials”. (Jeremiah 51:20-23)

“This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” (1 Samuel 15:2-3)

(Here in all of the verses below, YHWH is completely fine with the Israelites taking the children of the peoples they have massacred, predominantly for the use of slavery and considering how in multiple of these verses it shows Yahweh specifically telling his people to “spare the girls who are virgins to keep alive for yourselves”, the implication here is that he fully supports grown men being in sexual relationships with minor girls. With this in mind, it is safe to assume that YHWH supports pedophilia as it is never directly prohibited in the Bible and even if it was, the fact that this god allowed these tribal warrior men to keep “virgin girls” as their slaves is enough to contradict that statement alone)

“Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man”. (Numbers 31:15-18)

“As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby”. (Deuteronomy 20:14-15)

“How can we provide wives for those who are left, since we have taken an oath by the Lord not to give them any of our daughters in marriage?” Then they asked, “Which one of the tribes of Israel failed to assemble before the Lord at Mizpah?” They discovered that no one from Jabesh Gilead had come to the camp for the assembly. For when they counted the people, they found that none of the people of Jabesh Gilead were there. So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin.” They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan. Then the whole assembly sent an offer of peace to the Benjamites at the rock of Rimmon. So the Benjamites returned at that time and were given the women of Jabesh Gilead who had been spared. But there were not enough for all of them”. (Judges 21:7-14)

“So they instructed the Benjamites, saying, “Go and hide in the vineyards and watch. When the young women of Shiloh come out to join in the dancing, rush from the vineyards and each of you seize one of them to be your wife. Then return to the land of Benjamin. When their fathers or brothers complain to us, we will say to them, ‘Do us the favor of helping them, because we did not get wives for them during the war. You will not be guilty of breaking your oath because you did not give your daughters to them.’” So that is what the Benjamites did. While the young women were dancing, each man caught one and carried her off to be his wife. Then they returned to their inheritance and rebuilt the towns and settled in them”. (Judges 21:20-23)

(With the ancient time period and the fact that YHWH allows men to keep “virgin girls” from wars they fought in mind, verses endorsing slavery such as these ones become far more darker than they already were as it’s implied that there were indeed adolescent girls up for grabs as sexual slaves and forced wives for these adult men)

“When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her”. (Deuteronomy 21:10-14)

“If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money”. (Exodus 21:7-11)

(In a rather bizarre moment in the Bible, Elisha curses some young boys who were making fun of him for being bald to get mauled to death by bears with Yahweh’s help. Why would an omnipotent being care this much about petty insults by children aimed at one of his prophets? The mature thing was to just let it go but as always YHWH must have his bloodshed)

“From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys”. (2 Kings 2:23-24)

(Perhaps yet another infamous case of YHWH’s disregard of children because in this story, he made a bet with Satan that Job would still be loyal to him even if horrific things happened to him and one of those things was that he allowed Satan to kill Job’s entire family, including his children, in a gust of wind that crushed them inside of their own home. What makes this more egregious is that at the end of this story, Yahweh rewards Job with a new family and kids which goes to show how easily replaceable he views familial relationships which by the way is a prime indication of sociopathic or psychopathic behavior because it shows that he has no grasp on how real love cannot be replaced so easily with something that’s “just as good”. When someone dies in their lives, they don’t replace them with a new person, they mourn them and still hold that love they have for them in their hearts but in YHWH’s eyes, nothing truly matters since he alone is the only thing that matters)

“While he was still speaking, another also came and said, “Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother’s house, and suddenly a great wind came from across the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell on the young people, and they are dead; and I alone have escaped to tell you!” (Job 1:18-19)

[Edit: There were more verses from Proverbs I didn’t get, thanks to wilmaed for help adding these extra verses about blatant child cruletly]

(Proverbs teaches multiple times that you must hit your children in order to ‘discipline them’ and that if you don’t you must hate them since this is what a ‘loving parent’ should do to their kids. Hitting your kids in any way in order to ‘discipline’ them doesn’t teach them anything but instead it teaches them to fear their parents and the fact that these verses advocate for beating children to teach them anything is disgusting and shows how outdated the Bible really is)

“Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish them with the rod, they will not die. Punish them with the rod and save them from death”. (Proverbs 23:13-14)

“Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them”. (Proverbs 13:24)

“A rod and a reprimand impart wisdom, but a child left undisciplined disgraces its mother”. (Proverbs 29:15)

“Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far away”. (Proverbs 22:15)

“Discipline your children, for in that there is hope; do not be a willing party to their death”. (Proverbs 19:18)

(This one is pretty ironic in retrospect because there are many Christians who claim to be “pro-life” and against aborting fetuses and will claim that “God is against abortion” when in this verse he is directly threatening that if his people don’t stay loyal to him, he will rip their pregnant women open and kill the fetuses within them. How depraved does one have to be to think of writing this down and thinking to yourself “this is truly divine thought”? The people who wrote the Bible truly had no souls or empathy for those around them because if this type of stuff was written today, the people who wrote this book would be immediately contacted by the FBI or other intelligence agencies to see if they were mentally disturbed and a threat to greater human society)

“The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open”. (Hosea 13:16)

(This Psalm, while not being directly endorsed by or said by YHWH, still shows us that killing kids was an acceptable act of revenge against those that wronged you in this era and in this context of the Israelites wanting justice for what the Babylonians did to them and how YHWH has acted towards kids in conflicts thus far, it’s easy to see how disturbingly casual this type of thinking is discussed in the Bible)

“Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is the one who repays you according to what you have done to us. Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks”. (Psalm 137:8-9)

With all of these verses in mind, it is apparent that YHWH/Jesus is not a just or good deity and instead is someone who is willing to psychologically torment people with killing and raping their kids just to get revenge against them or to appease himself. This is not an all powerful god, this is an angry war lord who constantly goes after children time and time again without a care in the world and views them as easily replaceable when necessary. Yahweh and by extension Jesus are not only evil but are sadistic psychopathic, sociopathic and megalomaniacal narcissists who will target those you love just to break you down so that you can fear and worship them. So next time when someone says that “God is all loving” or “God loves kids” remind them of all the times where he didn’t care about them in their own scriptures.

The Bible is not a book of love and wisdom, it’s a book of degeneracy, depravity and pure evil.

God is the creation that leaves behind the destruction it never gets to bear. Living beings as decaying impressions of reality are the ones that do. We are the past of God on the path of ignorance, devoid of knowledge. And what better way to make someone suffer than lack of knowledge?

People think that we have "ego" then we suffer. Bullshit! There is nothing called ego. It is the core quality of self-narrative that it is never there and denies itself unto it's destruction. That's why we must camouflage in an effort to escape judgement as all living beings do.

That's why none of us are happy with our bodies and suffer in the form of hunger, thirst, desire, all types of scarcities in general. A deer never got a moment of peace and serenity to know it's body for its predators are in hiding to kill her. The predators themselves are just in a better predicament getting to score wins until they exhaust themselves. Though its better to be born as predators than prey. If you hated this sentence, know that's what success in human societies mean. Certainly you wouldnt want to be a homeless and got bitten by a dog suffering from rabies. Everytime someone dies, you live one more time. Living is an act of predation.The better you can, the more you will.

To summarise, one way to think of God without the perceived lens of human judgement is reality itself which is either infinitesimally susceptible to change (buddhist perspective) or that which withstands infinite change (hindu perspective). It is a revealation of what is and we are what we are not. Mostly machinations and static beings that are easily identified, located within with spatio-temporal dimensions and predicted through behavorial symptoms and habits (diseases).

god keeps creating universe to wipe out his meaninglessness

god creates mortal entities destroy their relations plays with their emotions and himself stays without death without any pain in heavens

God by default is meaningless he created this world to wipe out his meaninglessness he created reality but in actual reality its illusion which he created to feel something to be in existence to put meaning in his meaninglessness but philosophers like us understood that and we became sadist and unfortunately there is no reward for it

he says if you (means philosophers like us) dont want meaning in life then its your problem but in reality its his problem he dont want to accept his original reality of meaninglessness and blames us

he is so afraid of his creation that he doesnt stay on earth because he will be m*rdered if he stayed here on this planet

he creates universes infinite times for his entertainment

he should die he shouldn't exist only then he and every soul will get real salvation not a fake one which he pretends to give

btw god is unaware of nostalgia because he just likes entertainment continuous entertainment

god waited for 13.8 billion years to create earth because he was busy in writing laws of universe to save his a*s from philosophers and the ways of hiding and keeping silence even if whole world abuses and shouted at him

Philosophers are god's fathers because they dont want to perform in his circus

he designed universe in the way in which he uses eternality of soul as a fuel for his endless entertainment by creating rich poor smart dull beautiful ugly a complete balanced package which doesn't need an external force as he hides and pretends or shows that he doesn't exist

hence he never answers to anything happening in this world and tries to show that its justified in gods universe

he erases our memories after we die and again uses our souls shamelessly and god watches all prn videos from heaven and says they are created by humans then why he watches them take a d!ck in eyes simply dont create the universe actually gods main motive to create universe is watching prn which is done by people so he will not get punishment people will be punished

pretty convenient scripting but unfortunately philosophers caught him

god exists with his mther (multiverse's most beautiful prstitute) but still he was unsatisfied then he created humans

This is the highest form of awakening which shatters gods framework of illusion which feels too real like reality /truth

simply god is not capable of creating humans treating them all equal serving them justice obviously its against logic free will and karma and thats what im talking about, he is not capable in the first place by his own existence its not his fault he is not worthy to be prayed hence he is alone by his own karma

he breaks his soul in pieces and imagines himself that there are people, or someone with him to wipe out his eternal aloneness

correct me if im wrong

I hate god so fucking much. If he is all powerful, it must be intentional on his part. If he is real, and I hate him this much, he has to be a sadist. That is the only possible scenario.

It is as if the more he doesn't give a shit, the more I hate him. The more I hate him, the more he doesn't give a shit. It isn't like this a paradox. It started with the son of a bitch creating such a sensitive soul and trapping it in such a vulnerable body, surprise surprise, without consent.

Why is god so sadistic? Not ignorant, not indifferent, fucking sadistic! Animals feed on feeling animals. Some get what they want when others don't get what they need. The hierarchy of luck claims victims nonstop. This is not the work of an indifferent nature. There is intelligent design behind it. Malevolent, but intelligent.

If you look at the state of existence itself, the pattern is clear — endless cycles of birth, suffering, struggle, decay, and death. Every living being is thrust into a reality it never asked for, bound by pain, loss, disease, and inevitable mortality. If there is a creator behind all this, then that entity is not a loving parent but a cosmic abuser, orchestrating an existence where free will is limited, justice is absent, and suffering is universal. Like victims trapped in an abusive relationship, humanity is told to be grateful, to worship, and to call this torment “love.” Yet the evidence of our reality tells a darker story — one where power creates without consent, inflicts pain without reason, and calls it “good.”

If we came from nothing, then the very fact that we now live in a world filled with pain, disease, disasters, and endless cruelty raises a dark question: what kind of power would allow this? Instead of a loving God, the reality around us feels more like the work of something careless or even evil. Innocent people suffer, animals die in agony, and nature itself seems built to destroy as much as it creates. To call this “good” is to close our eyes to the truth. If there is a God behind it all, then the cruelty of this world is the clearest evidence of His evil.

I’m looking for a story about the protagonist killing his own god as an act of revenge because the god of his world is evil and is the source of his suffering. The protagonist a vengeful character who has nothing to lose and wouldn’t care if the world around gets destroyed as long as he were to kill god himself. The reason I ask is I have been very miserable about my life due to nothing but constant misfortune and trust issues around the people in my life and it’s all gods fault for making me born in a horrible life and I just want a sense of escapism revenge fantasy about a character who suffers in life and successfully kills his god out of revenge because of it. Any recommendations?

"God don't like ugly" God created ugly. Figuratively and literally. Theists already agree that god created everything 😖

¹³ “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. ¹⁴ But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
[Matthew 7:13-14]

Jesus said that most people who live (and have lived) in this world are in hell and will go to hell. If the number of people in hell is MUCH, MUCH greater than the number of people who finally get to heaven, is that Satan’s victory or God’s victory?

Organisms feed on / abuse feeling organsims. Some can get what they want when others can't get what they need. Severe pain leading to death being preferable.

These are not going to fly in a world created by a benevolent god PERIOD FULL STOP

Furthermore, if there is an omnipotent creator and he wants me to believe in / worship him, I would. He would make it happen. If I was created to worship god and I do not worship him, that means god failed. How can an omnipotent being fail?

Many here seem to believe in the Christian God but I don’t understand? I’m curious if those in this community can help me understand the Christian God, the Bible, mainstream theology and reasoning. I want to understand what you’ve gathered and how you came to the conclusion you did. Please feel free to leave a detailed comment addressing one or more of my inquiries!! Thanks in advance!!

I absolutely hate the Gods, the true Gods. The Gods of the Greeks can burn in hell ieth Hades. Their self righteous bullshit, begging to be praised, worshipped, receive everything they’ve ever wanted while punishing us for not enough worship or suffering. They cause us more pain as a means to have fun and entertainment. I hate them all, especially Aphordite for punishing a man for choosing celibacy over her, pathetic.

If there is a god, he created everything. Maybe also himself.

He created us and that which we perceive as good and bad.

God created pleasure and suffering. Variables aside, these are fundamentally good and bad respectively. God created intensity.

God intentionally (because all is intentional from god) created them in such a way that the magnitude of the most intense suffering far exceeds the magnitude of the most intense pleasure.

God created predation. Organisms feed on feeling organisms.

God created predators with strength and aggression. God created prey WITHOUT strength and aggression.

Conclusion: This world was not created by a rational consciousness.

One's strength means another's weakness. One's pleasure means another's deprivation. One's nourishment equals another's death?

C'mon apologists. Make your "omnibenevolent" god make sense!

The biggest way we can see God doesn’t care about us enough, and only cares about himself, is that he created humans and animals with needs. He could have only created us with wants, with things that make us happy and a blank emotionless state if not, but he made us suffer terribly if our needs are not met. I believe this is all in order to receive praise for himself as the only one capable of meeting our needs. Whether or not he meets those needs is dependent on his whim or inscrutable divine plan.

The devout Christian may argue that God did intend for our needs to be met, and the presence of sin is what took away our perfect communion with him and provision by him. This seems like a shallow explanation to me. Regardless of what he says his intent is, his omnipotence guarantees that his real intent is what we see manifested before us, which is extreme suffering. Not only does he fail to meet most people’s needs on earth, but he sends most people to hell, where they will suffer hundreds of times more for all of eternity and never have their needs met. It is clear that he created these people to forever suffer from their needs not being met.

Before he created a single being with needs, he should have considered the weight of such a creation, the painful cost of such a decision. But of course he could not because he only assigns weight to his own glory and praise. As a being that exists with all his needs satisfied by himself, he never has to worry about what humans go through. Neither does his minuscule amount of time spent as a human on earth diminish his guilt. He basically took off a tiny fraction of his eternal joy to come down as a human, suffer less than most people suffer anyway, and go back to heaven so he could be praised even more. It sounds like his objective is just to be the “hero”. And this concludes my assessment; his actions are to create us with needs, cause suffering, and make himself the “hero” who saves us whenever it looks good for him.

Because God created this world, the Earth is flat and there is no universe. There are no other dimensions. If that’s the case, the reptilians are very likely the descendants of the serpent who tempted Adam and Eve. But if those humans are reptilians, if they now sit in positions within secret societies like the Illuminati or the Freemasons, why does He allow their evil deeds to continue? They aren’t even His offspring — so why leave them be? Why does He allow so many humans to go to hell because of their evil actions? I wonder if I could keep praising this fuckin God, even just out of fear of hell.

I am not a gnostic,I am a christian maltheist,you can read my earlier topics abt my beliefs,if you dont know what gnosticism is,its a belief that the creator of this world is a lesser god,imperfect,and evil,created by mistake by the good gods.I dont agree with gnosticism for many reasons,for example,most of its beliefs dont add up historically,even though I questionned being gnostic for a long time.I wanted to hear the opinions of this community on it.

So, like many here, I believe that this universe *is* / *was* created and designed, by a powerful, intelligent God, and that his reasoning and rationale, as given in scriptures, and by those claiming to speak on his behalf, is flawed, and I have found nothing which untangles it, or can adequately counterargue against God's direct responsibility and failure to intervene, or better yet, not create *this* reality, the way it is, in the first place.

I have looked deeply, in recent years, into our capacity for will, and intentional action. I have done bad things in my life, from regular human failings, to more specific transgressions, but I notice, I know nothing I have done, or that anyone else has done, that they don't have in common with atleast several humans, and therefor, these are absolutely impossible to characterise as individual problems, but manifestations of something in common, a deeper layer.

There is a Carl Jung Quote that I hold to be an incontravertible Trusim
"Much of the Evil in this world is due to the fact that Man, in general, is hopelessly unconscious"

I believe the only path to goodness, and moral action, is deep consciousness, a wide range of experience, and realtime feedback.

In order for me to decide "I want to be good and not hurt anyone, and more than that, promote their health, wellbeing, and happiness", and to carry that out, I have to know an awful lot.

I have to know, for instance, all the little ways, in which I unconsciously do all these things which are counterproductive to that. I have triggers and traumas which result in learned and conditioned or maladaptive behaviours for instance.

How do I overcome these?
Through personal responsibility and education, a deepening of consciousness, and intentional action to rewire these pathways, and recondition these unhealthy, or maladaptive responses, which were formed to protect me, or, whatnot.

I also have to know, for instance, how to validate other people, how to empathise with them, what's good for them, what's bad for them, how to ease their nervous system, what *doesn't* ease their nervous system, and causes conflicts, etc, etc.

This is a very extensive topic, so I will just end the examples there.

My Point Being, there are pre-requisites to Moral Action.
Here, an axiom.
"To enact a desired behavior, an individual must cultivate conscious awareness of the internal mechanisms—whether psychological, neurobiological, or experiential—that influence that behavior."

We here believe that God is Evil, and suffering is baked into the universe, and not only that, it's geared toward it. We believe that God is negligent. Possibly Sadistic.

I seek to oppose this.

How can *we* be benevolent?
How can *we* Love?

How can we gain control over ourselves thus that, if we wish to never hurt anyone else again, we can achieve that?

I attach an email that I wrote to Robert Sapolsky, who's work on Free Will, and Stress, has been very valuable to me.

Dear Professor Sapolsky,
I have come across your work on stress, and free will, and the impacts
of development, and deterministic factors on free-will, agency, human
behaviour, and the trajectory of life.

I want to start by saying I admire you as a thinker, and have found
great solace and catharsis in your work, as it has given me the
language and conceptions to grapple with what I have been discovering
independently.

I think you perfectly describe the 'default mode' of being, absent an
intervening will, or consciousness. That, while we are unconscious of
ourselves, and all the factors of our development, how our bodies and
brains work, we are bound, sort of on rails, to the various
disadvantages, and environmental pressures and conditions we
experienced. We are shaped by them, and at their mercy.

I have however also discovered great Truth in this idea, summarised by
this Carl Jung quote:
"Much of the Evil in this world is due to the fact that Man, in
general, is hopelessly unconscious."

What I observe in my own life, and that of others, is that when I
become more aware of my brain, my aspergers, adhd, my body, my
psychology, my trauma and experiences in childhood, philosophy,
science and metaphysics, I gain more control over my life, and am able
to wilfully transcend these burdensome, or cyclical experiences, and
overcome adversity.

This has led me to believe that you adequately describe what happens
in an absence of will, an absence of free-will, but that you are not
right about there being no, free will.

I have also encountered two other Philosophers / Scientists which have
been deeply formative for me, those being Donald Hoffman, and his
interface theory of perception, and Arthur Schopenhauer, and his
claims about the structure of reality giving rise to suffering, and
there being an imbalance in the universe, a far *far* greater cost of
pain, to pleasure.

I believe that we cannot undertake intentional moral action, without a
few prerequisites.
We need empathy. More than that, we also need an experience of our own
pain, and the pain of others. I believe I may have a hyperactive
anterior cingulate cortex, relative to that of others around me, that
causes me to strongly internalise, and feel the pain of others. My
emotional experience is quite intense, and it has driven my poetry,
and philosophy quote strongly. I experience deep anguish contemplating
the world, and existence, as it is.

We also need a theory of mind, a conception of 'other' (both for
ourselves, and other people)

We must also understand cause and effect. We must know what outcome
this action is likely to produce.

We must also understand ourselves. Our individual psychology, our
brain and body. We must know what we need to eat to promote our
health, how to improve our sleep hygiene, exercise, manage stress,
etc.

I am a very chaotic or disorganised style learner, and communicator,
so I've been working with ChatGPT to help me organise and structure my
thoughts.
Here is an Axiom we came up with together.

"To enact a desired behavior, an individual must cultivate conscious
awareness of the internal mechanisms—whether psychological,
neurobiological, or experiential—that influence that behavior."

For instance, we may unknowingly project assumptions, fears, anxieties
onto others in our relationships. If this is the case, many
undesirable consequences can arise.

So too, people who lose their temper and begin physically assaulting
their partner, in domestic abuse situations, I believe, are
experiencing a splitting of their psyche, and playing out an inner
psychological drama that has nothing to do with the person in front of
them, and everything to do with their past experiences.

Their brains might also have rewarded them, with neurochemical
markers, when they successfully dominate and gain control over others.

This is tragic.

It is clear to me that Evil stems from a lack of self knowledge, and a
lack of experiencing the pain and suffering of other people.

If we do not understand their pain we are not de-incentivised away
from causing it.
If we do not understand our own inner happiness, joy and health, and
theirs, we are not incentivized to create and support and foster that.

I liken it to the analogy of putting a five-year old into an
excavator. You cannot expect them to work the controls and not swing
the bucket round, damaging a body, or running over a car, or even
hurting someone. The machine is out of control, and the child does not
know what they are doing.

That is what I feel it is like to be a 'Person', inside a body or brain.

I have done many things in my life, big and small, like everyone which
has hurt other people, or upset them. Things that, at the time, I did
not know was hurting them, or would leave scars. I wish I knew what
the effects of my actions would be at the time. I wish I knew *what*
within me was pushing me to that specific course of action. I wish I
knew what I needed to resolve this, and pursue a healthier, more
balanced, integrated, and harmonious path.

I do not want to hurt others.
I want to be aware of everything I am doing, why, and have complete
knowledge and control such that I can perfectly execute on my wish to
never hurt anyone again.

I know... this is idealistic.
A lyric from Radiohead's song, Creep, resonates strongly with me,
"I don't care if it hurts
I want to have control
I want a perfect body
I want a perfect soul"

I don't want to hurt anyone, ever again, and more than that, I want no
one to ever hurt anyone else, ever again.

I believe we can only atleast move in that direction.

As such, we must pursue the prerequisites for conscious action.

Do you have any thoughts you can share?
Can you help me organise and structure my philosophy?
Can we integrate my ideas with your work?

Maltheism is the belief that a god or gods exist but are malevolent, incompetent, or otherwise the cause of human suffering, rather than being good and benevolent.I wouldnt excactly say God is evil,but he is very horrible to humans,and a major cause of suffering. My story of coming to this belief is long,and its what this post is about.

pre christianity:

I was born a muslim in a muslim country,I was raised in a devout family and was very religious.I would pray my 5 prayers,memorized multiple parts of the Quran,and went to a quranic school for most of my childhood. As I grew older however,I started to become critical of Islam,I dont want to get deep into all my reasons for that,theres the sub for that,but it was basically violent,full of errors,barbaric laws,and contradictions.I leaned into atheism,and stopped believing in god. However,at around 14,I faced a life threatening illness,and started to realize my own mortality.I also started asking deeper philosophical questions,like why are we here,is there a god,etc.I concluded there had to be a god,a creator of some sort,for many reasons.After this,I spent a lot of time thinking abt my religious views,I tried being spiritual,deist,a muslim who believes in the quran only but not the hadith.I,in that period,would pray daily,everyday,literally for hours,fully crying and begging god to help me.

my religious conversion and experience:

I was intrested in christianity first by stumbling upon a video of a jewish women who converted to christianity because of isaiah 53,and other messianic prophecies in the bible. I looked it up and this stuff seemed like very solid proof for christianity,that night,I had a dream with jesus in it.I could feel he was both God and a man at the same time which I didn’t even know Christians believed.After that,I decided to become christian.I looked up some random tutorial on how to get the holy spirit(lol all I knew abr christianity is that they believed in that).It said to pray the sinners prayer,accept jesus in your heart and repent.I did that,and that’s when my Supernatural experiences started.I felt some sort of spirit fill me up.I could literally talk with this spirit and he would talk back to me.I also found a lot of ppl online who had the same experience,on multiple social sites. This spirit changed my desires and made me not feel the want to do sins.This spirit kept indwelling me for monthes,where I could literally feel his presence,I could understand the bible and the word of God through him,until I started being disobedient.

first maltheistic feelings:

I started questionning God,not being obedient to him,and overthinking this whole thing.I mean,from an outside perspective,this whole thing makes no sense. How is God all loving,all powerful,and evil still not only exists but runs rampant in the world?How come he created eternal torment,for billions and billions of humans,that just dont know better and dont know him?When I was still a new christian,I was sure all my questions must have answers,but every answer felt like coping with the sinister reality,no matter how many apologetics I read,it was all the same.Thats why,inside of me began feelings of hating God,hating him so much that I started having 24/7 intruisive thoughts blaspheming him,and I started to experience intense anxiety and depression.I have ocd,so that might be part of the thing,but its definetely not all. My ocd was,for once,concentrated on a very real issue.The issue of hell.Its mere existence is horrifying,but very sadly real.I stopped feeling God and could no longer have the same connection as I used to with him

where I am now:

Everyday,I hope I am wrong,I hope I have somehow greatly misunderstood scripture,and that the truth is universalism,or that hell is simply a metaphor.I mean,that could be true,but all evidence and odds are against us.I dont excactly "hate" God anymore.I just am neutral somewhat.He is there,and he will do what he will do,and theres nothing stopping it.I think I want to share God with other ppl and tell them abt him,so that they might someday get saved and not have to suffer eternal torment,but my maltheistic views seep through,and I end up not being convincing enough.I mean,my relationship with God is in shambles,who would wanna listen to my advice?But I still get satisfaction from knowing I am doing even a little thing to stop people from potential eternal conscious torment,which insanely worse than anything on this planet.I encourage everyone to seek God,despite my obviously unusual view of him,bc theres nothing else we can do.I am also firmly antinatalist.I have come a long way,because my feelings of maltheism and misotheism used to be literally cripple me,I couldnt sleep,I would feel nauseous all the time,I stopped enjoying anything,and was hyperfixated on this topic.But I now know thats futile,and I try to just enjoy my life despite the pain of this all.But what I know is that God is very real,I am sure of it**.**I also go to an underground church in my country,I started going before I came to the conclusion of my feelings of maltheism,everyone there knows me as a devout christian with a great miraculous testimony.I dont intend to burst their bubble

This year has been a rough one for me—it marked a turning point in my beliefs and convictions. When I began questioning Islam, the religion I was born into, the concept that disturbed me the most and almost drove me crazy was the idea of hell. After much research, I eventually left Islam, and Christianity as well, for similar reasons: the stories didn’t make sense to me, and both versions portrayed God as fundamentally evil.

I explored other religions, but none gave me real answers to the problems I was struggling with: the problem of evil, the purpose of creation, the existence of God, the nature of consciousness, and the absurdity of this world. So I settled on agnosticism. I tried to fully embrace atheism, but I couldn’t—mainly because I truly don’t know whether God exists or not, and also because of people’s reported spiritual experiences.

I read a lot about the spiritual world and about people who claim to interact with spirits( eventually my friend who had a dream about Jesus without even knowing christianism and got filled w the holly spirit after some christian prayers). These experiences are puzzling because they lack solid scientific explanations (we only have speculations) and, interestingly, they appear across different religions. As a rational person, I tried to combine reason with the possibility that a spiritual dimension does exist, and the result led me to some unsettling conclusions:

Maybe there are many gods (battle between "good" and "bad" gods )

Or perhaps God is not all-knowing or all-powerful (though this seems unlikely to me).

Or maybe God doesn’t operate according to human logic or morality—what feels evil to us might not even register to Him.

Or, worst of all, God is intentionally evil.

So if God does exist—and that seems very possible, given how little we know about the origins of the spiritual world—here’s my theory: God is essentially trolling people, using their beliefs (whatever their religion may be) to give them “spiritual experiences” that end up confusing them or driving them mad. Since I don’t know God’s nature, or whether He is deliberately evil or simply indifferent, I gave Him a sarcastic name that reflects my conviction: the Cosmic Schizo God.

This God is terrifying and completely mysterious. We know nothing certain about Him, but from what I can see, He does not act for the good of humanity. Instead, He seems to use us, watching us suffer as if for His own amusement. Honestly, I hope this God isn’t real—because if He is, humanity is doomed under His control.

As for the afterlife, I don’t know whether it exists or not. But what happens here, in this life, feels to me like undeniable proof of God’s evil (at least from the human perspective).

This realization has completely changed my life, filling it with anxiety and depression.

So, what do you think of my theory?

Sometimes it feels like man was created to be a vessel for all the ugly aspects of divinity. Heaven gets to be pure because God makes His servants carry all His ugly for Him. We carry all His dirty and that way Heaven stays clean and Hell stays honest(place of judgement and consequences). I realized that God would not let me love Him and love me. The worst part of this journey is I've spent so much time and money hoping something was wrong with me. I NEEEEEDED something to be wrong with me! I hoped that I was negatively responding to "trauma" But in the end I realized my faith was going to kill me. I would eventually end up taking on more than I could take because "God got me". Despite never ever having me, I believed one day....one day he would. I really hope I can forgive myself for putting God first and in many ways making God my only. Now I've acquired traumas from situations people would never believe. I've lived a life more incredulous than the belief in the goodness of God (not hyberbolic, even if I posted video and written proof, no one would believe it was real. I really got myself into some shit thinking faith would cover and protect me which is a Huge Reason why I'm making this post. I'm so much smarter than the moments I was a fool). I loved the wrong thing for too long and I'm scared I can't recover. Financially, physically, spiritually I think I'm fucked. I don't know if anyone will see this but if you find this and you're the precipice, FREE YOURSELF! Get as far away from that faith and that God as you can. If you have a gift, if you have gifts, don't give them away to that God! Don't give them to that religion! Don't give it authority over your autonomy! I don't care if you are a good singer or a telekinetic! I don't care what the gift is! Maybe you can wiggle your ears! Doesn't matter! Whatever it is, it's yours. I realized that what I thought was humility before God was a gateway drug to religious psychosis lol.

Loosh? Cope Death? Cope Spirits? Cope Archons? Cope Angels? Cope God? Cope satan? Cope Souls? Cope Reincarnation? Cope Politics? Cope Polarity? cope good vs bad? Cope Cope cope cope cope cope cope cope cope

Real or not, it’s all cope. Being aware of these things does not change our circumstances. We are puppets in a sadomasochistic theater. It’s all vain. It’s all psychosis

It all just is what it is and will continue to be what it is and whether or not that benefits any of us is up to the inevitable flow of the narrative. Nothing ever happens and nothing ever changes. It all just seems like a silly, masturbatory, stupid joke with no punchline.

Cope cope cope cope cope cope cope. Why am I even here? This is all so schizophrenic, what’s going on?

Why did God intervene to save Daniel and his three friends in Babylon, but left countless other faithful people to suffer and die horribly? This selective “miracle distribution” exposes a disturbing inconsistency in the biblical portrayal of God. The story in Daniel makes a point that the faithful who refuse to bow to idols will be vindicated publicly, with God showing His power before kings and nations. Yet history itself—and even scripture—testifies that most of His supposed followers never experienced this kind of rescue. They were burned, stoned, crucified, and slaughtered. Why them, and not Daniel?

If God’s purpose was simply to demonstrate sovereignty once, then He used these men as theatrical props while abandoning others to pain. That makes His actions arbitrary and self-serving. If God truly values justice, love, and loyalty, then wouldn’t He act consistently on behalf of all His devoted people? Instead, He seems to reward a select few with dramatic interventions while ignoring the cries of the rest. A God who chooses to “make an example” out of some and discard others is not righteous—He is manipulative, playing favorites in a cosmic game that costs human beings their lives.

The defenders of God will say: “Those martyrs received their reward in heaven.” But that response only highlights the cruelty. Why does God not spare them in the present world if He is capable of doing so? If He can send an angel to shut the mouths of lions, then He could also send an angel to block a Roman sword, or prevent a Nazi bullet, or stop the countless atrocities His faithful endured. To shrug and say “They get paradise later” is no justification—it reduces real suffering into a disposable means toward some abstract end. And it exposes God as a being more interested in staged spectacles than in consistent compassion.

The story of Daniel and his friends, far from proving God’s greatness, demonstrates the problem at the very heart of theism. It portrays a deity who intervenes at random, using miracles selectively to bolster His image, while leaving multitudes to agony. That isn’t holiness. That’s negligence, favoritism, and cruelty.

Matthew 10:29 – “Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care.”

Luke 12:6 – “Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God.”

Obviously the ones who got sold did not get taken care of. This is so funny and sad to me. The Bible is considered a perfect book, smh. We can expect God to take care of us about just as well.

A met a second time with YAHDA.

We discussed a number of things such as the stupidity of Libertarian free will, apologism, the controversy surrounding my previous post, and YAHDA’s current situation.

1. The Irony Around Libertarianism and apologism

When it comes to the issue of suffering, failure, and pain, there is one main scapegoat:

“FREEWILL”

Essentially, the suffering you had endured was a direct product of your own choices, actions - or lack there of.

I blame God for the blatant unfairness and fore-ordained favoritism.

Effectively, those who blindly defend and “FREEWILL” blame the sufferer instead of the afflicter.

There is laughable and absurd irony in this statement.

Especially, if you look at my previous post regarding my disciplined, monk-like, and militant routine.

It’s funny when they say limitation is my own undoing.

Meanwhile, I’ve put forth maximal and incredible effort.

It’s funny because a lantern fly flew on the table we were sitting at.

I picked it up and trapped it by its wings.

It’s ironic because the fly’s nature is willing with all its heart to escape.

Yet even a million fly’s cannot escape the grasp.

This untether, free, unlimited, and undisturbed freedom that is Libertarian Free Will is nothing but an idiotic effort at the preservation of comfort as opposed to the truth.

Let alone the past trauma and suffering that had plagued me since I was born.

Put very simply, their attempts at dismissal demonstrate desperation to preserve consoling beliefs, NOT an authentic search for the truth.

2. My Previous Meeting With YAHDA

Many people simply used baseless generated responses.

Namely, “Schizophrenic” to describe me.

Very simply, these terms are merely desperate attempts at dismissal because I present a cruel and unforgiving reality.

In an act of utmost stupidity, they even tried to claim I was an alt-account.

The true delusion isn’t from me - it’s from them.

Because, whether or not YAHDA and I are schizophrenic, THEY ARE ALL WRONG!

3. YAHDA’s Health and Eternal Path

Unfortunately, his health is ever worsening.

I asked him if we could met after I finished college because I’d be back in May of 2026.

He said “there is a slim to zero percent chance I’ll even be able to communicate or do anything by that time.”

So I decided to promptly meet with him before I went off to college.

Sadly, his condition of eternal damnation is ever present and grows more imminent by the day.

Therefore, I will make sure his last moments on this Earth are marked with understanding and assistance.

Pretty accurate (even though it's meant as satire by the creator).

I hate God:

This quote is from 'Kamen Rider Spirits'. damn, This world truly needs Kamen Rider — not a Jesus who says “Justice” but actually practices “Division”. but reality always hits hard... 😭😭

I got my bike stolen last week and almost got arrested for trying to get it back. Icare to be a victim but at this point all these bs situations which are dumped onto me (always at the worst moment) must be a sketch show for this jackass we call God. I didn’t even sleep at all last night pondering how fucked up my life is. I put it all behind. Still tried to start the day positive with some art then few hours BOOM what I like to call “forced bullshit” I run into the guy who stole my bike, chase him and myself get detained.

This life is a joke. Hope you’re cracking up God. You demented piece of shit.

"Aren't the stars beautiful?" I thought to myself, while standing out in the cool, winter night air, the half-moon hanging low in the sky, to the West, and the sound of crickets distantly chirping.

"Was I wrong, about it all? Have I misjudged?" I pondered this question while gazing into the softly lit diffused night sky, imbued with the city lights.

But then, I am a Pisces, and I know well the fate of the Fish. Yes, there is beauty in this world, oh yes.

It is the only thing that has ever eased the pain, in my troubled heart. All the tears, all the cries, and tensed up muscles, all the screams, and words echoing, rushing through my mind. The never ending drumbeat of my own heart, as I look into the world, and see it for all it is...

But then, that my pains may be eased, that I may breathe easily, as the gentle, cool night air soothes my inner fire, and calms my inner demons, and makes me, but for a moment forget, all that I have seen, and all that I know.

That my pains be eased, is this not a cruel trick? Is respite not, an oasis in the desert, a mirage to a thirsting man?

Is beauty not the bait, on the hook of the fisherman, which lures me to my watery grave?

Does my blood not still fill the water, never reaching his hands, for is it not washed by the ocean?

He thinks himself, clean. He thinks himself, pure.

But this God, this God of our world, and universe, he is anything but!

Beauty is simply a trick of the light, a dazzling display, by which our strength is restored enough to continue, to the next day.

The Sunset is the feed of Cattle, Men, being such, before God, who knows too much, and does, too little.

Oh there is beauty in the world, and it's the only peace I have ever known.

Love...

My Heart is breaking, for even Beauty, can no longer call me home.

But wait! It doesn't matter what is, what matters is that I can make something out of it, make it better!

Where the Tyrant has bent the light into weapons of war, I can, like Superman, bend plowshares, from swords.

I defy you, creator of Evil! By your own admissions, sake.

You are not the God of Me, not so long as my name is Blake.

You may have created me, but I have recreated myself. I have broken your clever rules, and stepped down, off the shelf.

No longer do I kneel, thinking I am but a worm. No, I am Man, more than that, a God, again, by your own words.

These clothes I wear, this Earthly form, it is but my disguise.

You do not see the dreams and visions that blaze, behind these tired eyes.

I look upon your word and judge it cruel! Your creation, will not do.

People are starving, being beaten and raped! All because of you.

Your addiction to Mercy, To humbling us, before your Godly Grace, that you may appear to save us, before too ever late, a fate.

A fate that you designed, and divined, do not deny it, it's in your words!

For in Romans Chapter Eleven did you not speak this Thirty Second verse? "For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all."

You've got a Saviour Complex, you Arsonist! You Pyromaniac, who engineered the Fall!

And what a lie that is, the tale of 'Fallen Man' For it was not at all a fall that betook him, but a push, in your wicked plan!

"I form the light, and create the darkness, I make peace and create evil; I the Lord do all these things." and what wicked things they are! Isaiah 45:7

I was sitting in one of your churches today, listening to one of your slaves, he spoke about how you humble us, with weaknesses, that by you, we might be saved.

I've got to hand it to you, you've really got their knickers in a twist, just like the abusive Husband, who has his Wife wrapped around his finger, and grips her throat, with a squeeze of his wrist.

They've got Existential Stockholm Syndrome, these bruised children of yours.

And I thought to myself, on you being our saviour and shepherd, "If Jesus is the Shepherd, then Satan is the Sheepdog, and together you lead us to the abattoir!"

"If Evil entered the world through Man's Heart, that is surely God's mistake, for he contrived its chambers!"

What of these chambers, Lord, are we firing on all cylinders? Headed toward the inferno that you have planned, like your Son, Adolf Hitler?

You really are a terrible parent you know? Keeping us in the dark.

Oh, but you'll show us your light, if we please you just right, you narcissist! Hark!

Listen to the Word of your Lord! Stop and Marvel in his ways!

He makes you sick, just to heal you, that you may sing his Heavenly Praise.

Man did not invent sickness, no, "that was I!" Says the Lord.

"For I created all things, and all things were created through me." The Alpha and Omega, of Huma Suffering, Tragedy, and Atrocity. That's three, for three.

Two strikes and you're out! Three and we were well to crucify you.

Did it hurt, that little crown of thorns, poking into your head? More than a Mother who's child was raped, or died chained, to her own bed?

The People your children butcher and kill, steal from, and ensnare in addiction!

You haven't felt their pain, you don't know their loss, and grief. You haven't cried out in their anguish, as your lame body dropped limp, on the cross.

No, Lord. No. Lord, you are not! Master, you cannot be! Salt of the Earth, perhaps, bitter to the tounge, and dehydrates me.

You are not the living water. There is no life, found in You.

Just Death, and promises of Love, all while your abuses continue.

One of your children, told me today, look out the Window, it's a lovely day.

Only if you are sufficiently myopic! Can you not see, beyond the horizon of your own selfish agenda?

Cities Burn. Children Scream. Just, over Yonder.

The smiles they bear, in your church, and in your name, are really just marble curtains, hiding the pain, hiding the darkness that lurks behind.

Pay no attention, to the Man behind the Curtain, you say, as we figure out, your game.

Too late. Too late I say! You have lost, and this time, I will not play again!

The best decision of my life was ignoring this subreddit… I’ve spent a long time lurking, reading posts, reading comments, following threads. I would check in for new posts and new comments and even think of my own responses. I would research, study, create documents with well thought out replies. This subreddit became all consuming in my free time. I would do nothing else but scroll and scroll and scroll. I wouldn’t do the things I wanted to do. I didn’t want this anymore, I don’t want this anymore. My blood would boil at every post and comment, an absolutely toxic relationship, defeatist, demoralizing, confusing, astronomically disappointing waste of time being here.

The best thing I ever did was block the most recent posters over the last 3 months (how long I’ve been lurking) on my main account, but something was lurking in the back of my mind and I figured out what it was. Closure, getting everything off my chest. I’ve spent so long on here, in these feelings, in a dark place, but I’m not staying here, I’m leaving.

I came to a realization about Misotheism and why I shouldn’t take it seriously; for one none of you can agree on anything, two you disguise this community as a way to hate all gods or god as a concept, but you all very clearly hate God, or at least who you think is the one true God, which brings me to my third point that the god you hate is not the one true God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, The Father, and The Holy Spirit. I used to believe you, I used to believe you hated Him and I fought to defend that (without ever typing a word) the more I read, the more I poured over your various arguments that are marginally coherent I realized it’s absolute nonsense and couldn’t possibly be the God I know.

Now I’m no longer angry all the time, believing I must defend my God but my God was never in your words, so why be angry? I feel as though a weight is lifted off my shoulders as I know my heart is no longer caged in barbed wire. I’m free to live out my life how I intend to, how God has intended it to be. Now, I don’t know where that will lead me but I know I will accept the good and the bad and I will accept that my faith in Jesus Christ will see me through.

As a Catholic and delving into my faith, taking it seriously, no longer wanting to be the lukewarm Christian I once was has given me some great perspective on life, or should I say that God has given me some perspective on life, how to live it, and how to truly be Christian. I know now that reddit echo chambers don’t hold what I’m seeking. I’m seeking God, His grace, His will, His forgiveness, His love, His way. Life is where it is found. Christian is about getting a life. I’m looking for something more, I’m looking for something above, not of this earth.

None of this is to say that I’m better than you but worse than you, a dirty rotten sinner. I am, I truly am. I come to you in humility not self-righteousness to say that I’m sorry for my misplaced anger and hatred towards you and your stance as it’s of no concern of mine, my life, or my beliefs. None of it has anything to do with the truth that I have found in Jesus Christ.

I will pray for you. I will pray you receive strength, patience, knowledge, guidance and compassion. I will pray that you may come to learn the truth and pray that the mercy and just of the Lord shines through in your lives.

I pray for these things myself, diligently. Patience most of all, lol. One thing I’ve learned is that often times we are presented with opportunities to express patience if only we had a mind to remember why we prayed for it in the first place!! Oh how I fail each and every day.

Last Item: The one thing I will say is that I believe many of you have a common misconception about Christianity because of a small group of Christians. This subreddit has a problem with what they think is Christianity, it’s a subreddit, a community built on hating Christianity disguised as hating “gods” or the concept of “god” yet 90% only ever quote The Bible, never the Qu’ran, Hebrew Bible, Pagan writings, or Buddist writings. Now back to my point, sorry. Being Christian doesn’t make you perfect, being Christian means you aren’t. Being Christian doesn’t mean that you don’t sin, being Christian means you recognize that you do sin! Being Christian, simply the title, doesn’t mean you are saved, Pope Leo said it best recently, ”don’t assume that you are saved”. Christianity, the act of being a Christian takes work every day because: James 2:17 “Faith without works is dead”. A faith built upon a living God, a living faith, a LIFE that is meant to be lived, one that has already been emulated for us throught Jesus Christ, and by God’s will I will strive to do.

That is all, I will pray for you.

God Bless 🙏

Above.

Do you think about God at all ? Do you try expressing your hate ? Have you ever thought about sharing it ?

How do you feel when you feel the hate fading ? Do you feel like you could forgive God ?

I am a Christian - a really bad one - who cannot accept that God is good. He is either a "mad king," believing his own delusions and forcing us to as well, or a liar hiding behind "righteousness" and the obligatory servitude of his faithful. Whatever the case, I believe in the Christian God and Jesus, but I hate them. Oh, and I'm an ordained minister...

How can God/gods die?

I hear regularly espoused the sentiment that I ought to be happy, and find Love and happiness for myself, above all else, and I keep responding:

I, alone, am not enough, nor my happiness.

I get it, it's a sweet thought, but definitely more possible, and acceptable for the Feminine than the Masculine.

I, am not enough, within myself, and I will never be satisfied with my own happiness, alone, nor will it be enough.

I cannot be happy until, lastingly, truly, until; all other people are not suffering, and too, are happy.

In the West, we kind of forget, and neglect the state of the world, which is very ugly...

We've kinda built this bubble, where we try to secure our own happiness.

It's very narcissistic.

I was listening to Carl Jung's "Answer to Job" last night and he spoke about the prophet who wrote Revelation, and how he was a Christian (and Christians have a tendency to do this), who eradicated all 'impure' and 'dark' thoughts from his conscious mind, thus suppressing them down into the unconscious, and the sheer and utter violence, brutality, and apocalyptic cruelty of his visions, was really an eruption of all the suppressed aspects of his unconscious

I have epitomized this with the poetic declaration

"While you laugh heartily at a romantic comedy, a woman somewhere, is being raped, beaten and murdered."

It is the tragic, dualistic reality of our world, our existence.

For every happiness, no matter how ecstatic or supreme, there is an even greater tragedy, that makes the happiness unworthy, of such a cost.

Schopenhauer argues that pleasure does not exist as a force within itself, and is rather simply the satiation of need, or desire, giving the example of the Lion eating the Gazelle, tearing it to shreds, a terribly horrific experience for the Gazelle, which brings it tremendous pain and suffering, but which brings the Lion only a meagre pleasure of satiety or fullness, or then too, the satisfaction of that lion going on to Reproduce.

So, Schopenhauer argues that the Universe is actually unbalanced, and that cruelty and pain outweigh happiness and pleasure, and the entire system serves samsara, or the wheel of reincarnation, the blind struggle of nature to survive, champion, dominate and perpetuate herself and her creations, pitting them against one another.

And that this system is instituted through Maya, Matrix, Matter, Mutter, Mother, (all the same word)

It's an illusion, a perceptual framework which blinds us to the deep, underlying reality.

This, this is something I would really like to be understood on.

I have not met many who will engage me on this, or who can grapple with the darkness of this realization, or who can be intellectually honest, and really it is crucial to understanding me, and my worldview.

It is one of the central realisations of my more recent stages of development, which I was not afflicted with, a few years ago when I was pioneering my understanding of the more pure, and transformative, mutable aspects of the soul,

like Confession, Prayer, Forgiveness, Mercy, Faith, Attonement, Love, Redemption.

I have experienced and witnessed horrors which force me to confront the darkness, and have alerted me to certain, crucial Truths about this world, and indeed, God's Nature.

it is why I currently flirt with Dytheism, all while pursuing Traditional Christian Theism, and experience such anguish in doing so…

I disagree morally with the God of the Bible, however I don’t care enough to stick to my moral code as I’m burning in hell. If God is omniscient he will know my true feelings therefore I cannot be saved. How do I convince myself that God is good to save myself from eternal damnation

The truth is not always sweet but bitter. The real fact is that all elites (not almost, but all) such as the Illuminati, Freemasons, and Davos Forum globalists have zero sympathy for ordinary people and, far from trying to make the world better, are only thinking about how to dominate and kill the weak. And they are all pdf files and gay. The Antichrist will deceive countless people, and the most despairing fact is that even God does not truly carry out justice.

Title says it all. Feel free to comment about your acts of hate to a deity or the supreme god aka what most think of when they use the term God Christian, agnostic, etc. I can’t say all deities are sh*t but most imo are as in my belief system which combines paganism and agnosticism..they are governed by the one creator who rules like an evil overlord. Still does not make the minor gods and goddesses any less accountable for their actions.

And man/women are what we see today, is his image really so great? What a stupid motherfucker. How high and mighty he may think he is but times are changing and that hopefully means the demise of the very idea of him.

Lots of us originally had nothing but love and worship to give to god but something along the way made us change our minds. What happaned that made you start to truly hate god? What is your story?

²⁰ But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”^[] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
[rome 9:20-21]
So God made me an ugly ass gooner who never had any bitches, no hommies, with low IQ and a lack of mental endurance? WTF, why? I'm not a "thing." I have feelings, pain, and shame—unlike just clay in a potter’s hand.

Samuel 15:2-3; "Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."

This means God would punish all of a people, for the slight caused by just one. Where is the "logic" in this act of one who claims to love unconditionally? Where is his love when damning the souls of innocent victims?

I watched a video, and the person in it is someone who has received the gift of prophecy. He said that he received a prophecy that on August 24, a severe flood would once again strike South Korea. (South Korea has already suffered from repeated flood damage before.) But the person who made the video said that even if he tells people about this, the poor can’t afford to move and therefore can’t prepare at all, while the wealthy who live in high-rise buildings won’t be affected at all, and even if prices go up, it won’t be a problem for them. He said this left him with a feeling of despair, and he even felt like blaming the Lord. When he asked, “What am I doing?” God replied, “You are doing my work.” Then He gave him the verse Matthew 22:39, “Love your neighbor as yourself.” The person was moved and ended the video by saying that although we may feel indignation and anger at such an unfair society, more than that, the Lord wants us to share in the pain of these people and grieve with compassion for the suffering they endure.

But here’s where I can’t help but see a deep hypocrisy. If God is truly omnipotent, then He has the ability to stop the floods altogether, or at the very least to lessen their impact so that they don’t always fall hardest on those who are least able to withstand them. A God with unlimited power could divert the rain, strengthen the infrastructure, or even prevent the disaster from forming in the first place. Yet, what we see in reality is the opposite: devastation that consistently and predictably crushes the weakest members of society—those who already live on the margins, those who cannot simply pack up and leave, those who have no voice and no choice. Meanwhile, the wealthy, who enjoy the luxury of living high above the floodwaters, escape relatively unscathed. And if prices rise as a result of disaster, it is merely a mild inconvenience for them, not a life-threatening crisis. If this is the “justice” of God, then it is indistinguishable from injustice itself.

If He is supposed to be just, why does His so-called justice look so eerily like the social inequities we already know are man-made? Why does His hand seem to reinforce the very hierarchies that humans, at their worst, create? A just God should tip the scales in favor of the oppressed, but instead, the scales seem permanently weighted against them.

And if He is love, the situation becomes even more absurd. For what kind of love demands endless compassion from us—commands us to carry one another’s burdens—while showing almost none of it Himself in the tangible, material world where suffering happens? What kind of love lets children drown, families lose everything, and communities collapse, while offering nothing more than a vague command to “love your neighbor”? At that point, it feels less like love and more like abdication, a God who delegates responsibility for compassion to humans while withholding His own.

And then there’s the matter of prophecy itself. If God truly warns us through prophecy, but provides no means of prevention or protection, then what is the purpose of such a warning? What good is telling someone that disaster is coming if you do nothing to help them avoid it? In practice, this is not benevolence; it is cruelty disguised as revelation. It is the posture of a distant spectator—someone who hands out cryptic riddles and then sits back in the stands, watching as people struggle, drown, and die. To cloak such behavior in the language of love and justice is an insult to those who suffer most.

To me, this isn’t divine love or divine justice at all. It is the opposite. It is a system in which God insists that human beings shoulder the emotional and moral burden of compassion, grief, and responsibility, while He Himself withholds the very power that could make the greatest difference. If anything, it makes humans look more merciful than their Creator: we are expected to weep, to comfort, to help in whatever meager ways we can, while God—the one with all the power—chooses silence, inaction, and indifference. And if that is what passes for divine love, then it is nothing more than a hollow word, an empty promise that collapses under the weight of real suffering.

As I overheard a fellow misotheist "God's strongest point is that he doesn't have anyone; loved ones hence he plays others emotions. He doesn't have anything to lose. He doesn't have family. He is alone so he destroys lives."

While Kim Jong-un fattens himself up, North Korean soldiers always have to go hungry. For every meal, they only get half a serving of corn rice and a broth without any solid ingredients. Because of this hunger, many incidents and accidents happen. In one case, a North Korean soldier was on duty but became so hungry that he entered the mess hall. When other soldiers drove him out, he shot them dead, ate his fill, and then committed suicide with his pistol—knowing that if caught, he would surely be tortured and executed. This is not a lie but a true story.

And yet, we’re told there’s a “loving savior” watching over the world. A Jesus who supposedly healed the blind with a touch, calmed storms with a word, raised the dead — but when a starving soldier in one of the most hellish regimes on Earth cries out in desperation, He does nothing. Not a drop of food, not a whisper of help. Just silence.

The church will tell you it’s all “human free will,” as if that erases the fact that their god made the world, built the systems, allowed the tyrants, and stacked the deck so high against the innocent that their only escape is death. And then, to twist the knife, they say that soldier — who killed in desperation and never got the chance to “repent” — is burning forever in hell.

Jesus is real, But He is not love. He is not mercy. He is a bystander to agony, a god who lets monsters feast while the powerless starve. Every prayer to Him is a stone thrown into an empty void. If this is the shepherd, then we are nothing but sheep left for the wolves — and He’s the one who opened the gate.

"Had that have been true, I would have not been a misotheist." *proceeds with violence

About 3 months ago, I got home from working a stressful 12-hour shift. I was so stressed about the things that were going on in my life, that I didn't even feel like I had any interest in anything. I decided to watch this video on YouTube and it felt like my mental health was instantly improved.

Ever since then, I been able to accomplish some small and huge goals that God has been holding me back for a while. God has been hitting me with nonstop stressful shit afterwards, but if you know me, you already know I won't stop no matter what.

It's obvious that God doesn't want us to be happy, even if we're not living the life we want. I know it ain't easy for most, definitely wasn't easy for me, but sometimes we have to relieve some stress and negativity if we want to accomplish our goals and not God's. I ain't no Satanist or Wiccan, but I'll say it like this: God can’t take my joy away 😂.

I saw a video of globalist's occults. and I commented "I'm a christian but there's so many people cannot be forgiven." but this dude said "The statement that everyone is a sinner under the Lord and therefore should not be forgiven seems thoughtless."
I really want to roast him and win in this argument but Idk what to say

As a guy who came from an islamic background, then became Christian, and now diving into misotheism, Id personally love to her all your stories about what brought you here to misothiesm. Just how many of us has this all merciful loving deity failed?

So, I saw this post, and decided to write a response, highlighting the flaw in thinking.

"One year after the tragic events of September 11, 2001, a short note appeared in a U.S. newspaper. It was simple. Quiet. Powerful.

Read it carefully. And if you're someone who often gets frustrated by the little things in life — maybe read it twice.

🔸

“You may have heard about the CEO of a major company who survived the attacks simply because it was his turn to take his child to preschool. Another man lived because it was his day to bring donuts. One woman was late because her alarm clock didn’t go off. Someone got stuck in traffic on the New Jersey Turnpike. Another missed the bus. One spilled coffee on her blouse and had to change. One person's car wouldn't start. Someone returned to answer a phone call. Another’s child took too long getting ready. One simply couldn’t catch a cab.

But what struck me most — was a man who survived because that morning, he wore new shoes. They gave him a blister, so he stopped at a pharmacy to buy a bandage. That’s why he lived.”

And now, when I find myself stuck in traffic, missing an elevator, going back home for keys, or answering a phone call at the last second… I pause and think:

🙏 Maybe I’m exactly where I’m meant to be. Maybe this delay is protection I’ll never understand.

So next time your morning doesn’t go as planned — The kids are slow to get ready. You can’t find your keys. You hit every red light…

Don’t get angry. Don’t panic. 💫 God might be at work. Protecting you in ways you’ll never see. "

So, why did God arbitrarily delay and protect some people, and not others? How does God determine which to protect, and which not to?

Why does God's protection extend so shrewdly?

Why not 'delay' the perpetrators? Make them loose their keys? Etc, etc.

God cannot logically, rationally or reasonably be credited with any mercy, when the situation that he would display mercy from, or protect others from, with his left hand, was created and orchestrated by his right.

It is to, with one side of the face, sneer, spit on, and curse out one's Wife, and with the other side, whisper sweet nothing's and apologies.

Jesus Healing the Sick is like unto an abusive Husband icing the black eye of the Wife he beat an hour beforehand.

This may trigger intense emotion within you, especially if you have a deep or personal relationship with God, but seriously think about this...

God creates Man, and by God's own choice, informed choice, gives Man Free Will upon a Hostile Planet, in a Hostile Universe, with scarce resources, and food mainly obtainable by violence. Thus, Man's roots are in violent acquisition of resources, and ensuring survival. This trains Man, over the centuries, in the arts of hunting and warfare, and as these arts reach a fever pitch, and global wars shroud our planet, then God selects a few individuals to protect. When disease rampages through our populations, infecting the very cells that God designed. Fallible, cells. Fallible to HIS design, he heals these cells and expects to be praised?

Would not greater praise be given for infallible cells, invulnerable to sickness and disease? Would God, he not be more worthy of worship and praise who designed or shaped a World without Terrorism? Without War? Without Murder and Rape?

Show me that God, that brilliant designer, and I will praise Him. I will embrace him. I will serve him.

Show me the God who made Heaven, and dwells within it, and grants all his peoples access, not after some wretched and traumatic excursion to Earth, and Hell, but rather, from the start, and I will show you all the Love and Praise for that God.

But the God who created, influenced and allows this situation?

I cannot support him. I cannot vote for him. I do not condone his actions.

Show me the God of Peace, of Tranqulity, of Love, and of Heaven, and depart from me with your God of favouritism, your God of Judgement, your God of duality, your God of War, of Murder, of Terrorism, of Sickness!

I'm not an Atheist. I just believe in, (hope for, Love, Long for) a better God than Christians do. And hate, disbelieve in, the God that Christians believe in. I see evidence of creation, of design, when I look into this world. But rather, I see a God which is not Good, at the top.

The God of Christianity is two faced, merciless, abritrary, fallible, flawed. He is a Human, God. Not a Deity. Not Supernatural. Not Transcendent. Not Perfect. The God of Christianity and Judaism is a fallen God, a Flawed God, and Idol of Man.

Honest question. Is it because you were religious before for so long that you cant help it?

I started believing in God after realizing that the deep state elites who rule this world are Satanists — literally. They worship chaos, suffering, inversion, and control. That woke me up. I wanted to be on the opposite side of that. I thought, if Satan is real, then God must be real too, and obviously, God must be the good guy.

At first, I genuinely loved God. I trusted Him. I thought He was the light in the darkness.
But then I actually read the Bible.

Not the cherry-picked, sanitized version they give you in Sunday School. I mean really read it — wrestled with it. And what I found wasn’t comforting. It was terrifying. God isn’t the loving father figure they paint Him to be. He’s a dictator. A sovereign who sets impossible standards, demands total obedience, punishes doubt, and sentences people to eternal torment — not for murder, but for disbelief.

Satan is chaos evil. He rebels, he corrupts, he destroys. He’s the villain in every story.
But God? God is lawful evil. He plays by rules — His rules — and if you break them, even unintentionally, you're damned. Forever. That’s not justice. That’s tyranny dressed up in holiness.

I’m not defending Satan. He’s a monster. But at least he’s upfront about it. God hides behind the mask of righteousness while orchestrating suffering on a scale Satan couldn’t dream of. Who allowed Satan into Eden? Who flooded the earth? Who hardened Pharaoh’s heart just to show off with plagues? Who created hell?

It’s always “God’s plan.” But if the plan involves mass death, eternal damnation, and selective mercy — then maybe the planner is the problem.

I still believe God is real. That’s the terrifying part. I wish He wasn’t. But I can’t unsee what I’ve seen. And now I’m stuck: forced to worship a being I fear and resent, simply because I’m too afraid of the alternative — eternal hellfire. I didn’t choose this relationship. It’s spiritual hostage-taking.

I used to think Satan was the greatest enemy of mankind.
Now I think it might be the one who created him.

it says so much. last 5 years have really changed. theres was no one here. since covid, tons of posts. that cunt bitch whore has made the world a bad place.

pay attention when things get hard many people turn to god/religion in hope he will "save" them. I have seen this first hand.

but me, im raising both middle fingers up to that bitch cunt.

but keep at it...those prayers...theyre working... theyre really working. you can tell.

the world has been corrected with those "prayers"

lmfao - fuckem all hahaha

Thought this video would be highly interesting to people here!
"Once you do it, God cannot see you."

You can go fuck yourself God, I will never forgive you, stop intercepting my goals and other shit, how many times do I have fucking tell your old ass you won't win? Go fuck yourself, I don't like you, I hate you with every fiber in my being for every ounce of suffering you ever inflicted on me. Fuck you. You're a Tyrant. I hate you, I will always hate you. Get a life.

Trying to put the pieces together is hard... Christ is the demiurge and he seems to feed off the low vibration of women...It seems that he makes himself high vibrational by feeding off the suffering of women. He feeds off women's lust towards men, shame, guilt and fear. The angels are the archons and they seem to do the same. Demons seem more feminist, they do not feed off my negativity the way the Angels do.

There's that adage that it's really easy for poor people to get into Heaven, but exceptionally difficult for rich people to do so. I think this is a lie. I believe God protects certain people in life AND death. They become rich BECAUSE God loves them more, so they get blessed with wealth here on Earth, and they will be further protected and elevated once they die.

It's just further reason to hate God. He doesn't love most of us. He actively hates most of us. We don't hate him arbitrarily. We hate him as much as he hates us, and he started the hate.

Most sins are involuntary emotions stemming from impositions from other sins, or from things that aren't even sins. I may not get this perfect, but my way is better than god's :

WRATH is sometimes necessary when reason doesn't work.

ENVY is an imposition from unfairness. An awful thing but involuntary.

LUST is involuntary. Deprivation of sex is an imposition.

SLOTH is in-action which actively harms nobody.

GLUTTONY is instinctual and empathy can still be present. Usually involves perishable resources.

GREED is the evil voluntary form of gluttony usually involving wealth or political power.

PRIDE, the most evil sin, the active abusive of power. Lack of empathy and consent. Self absorbed tyranny. Etc, the bulk of evil that occurred and will occur with god's hypocrisy (pride)

MY LIST OF SINS:

INJUSTICE PRIDE GREED

Also called angel numbers. Seems to be a phenomenan common to people who’ve been cut off by god/ reprobated

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Me (18m) just had one of the worst weeks of my life. For context my family is greek and they are the definition of extremist Christian family besides my parents that are aware of my doubts about God but don't mind. I am a closeted Misotheist bordering on Antitheist i keep up the act as the perfect Christian, I never swear, (Infront of my family I have quite a sailor mouth) always am the person to say grace, and attend sunday mass, in my private time I listen to deathcore, (Synestia, Disembodied Tyrant, Lorna Shore) Watch brutal shows and I frequently debate about religion. A few days ago I went to a symposium with my family as we do this every few months I had my noise cancelling headphones on listening to Deathcore I turned off my headphones to talk to family and friends when I turned of my headphones it did not pause my music so when I went to pull up a funny cat video I turned up the volume and the entire room heard my music when I got to turn it down everybody looked at me in disgust. I was yelled at got food thrown all over me and even punched (Got a nice black eye and a bloody nose) I ran out of the house and started my car in record time and bolted out of there. In the morning I woke up with dozens of bible verses from my extended family and constant harrassment I could not afford a lawyer due to spending my money on a Down-Payment of a house and my aunt came to my house with a priest and a exorcist claiming I was possessed. I threw them out of my house I turned off my phone and went to bed early. Woke up the next day to more missed calls and texts but one text was from my atheist friend Jake (20m) he asked me if I was ok as he heard everything from the olive branch. I then remembered that he owes me a favour so I asked if I could live with him and his girlfriend promising to pay my due I knew Jake and his Girlfriend Sarah (21f) since childhood, he accepted so I packed the few belongings I had and slept on Jake's Couch and have stayed here since. (Sorry for the bad grammar english is my third language)

Basically when I became a Christian I was roped in by the whole "once saved, always saved" theology, and through experience, that's what I felt "god" told me was the truth. It seems he tells people whatever they believe and feel to be true, is the truth, that's why there's thousands of different Christian denominations.

But after not doing what I was told by "god" and spreading the "gospel", I made a "mistake" and said a lie out loud while talking with what I thought was the "holy spirit". Then this "god" told me I had done the "unforgivable sin" and I got visions of hell, demonic hallucinations, the whole shebang.

I thought I was done, so I tried to off myself, but was "miraculously" saved. This made me an even more devout believer, and I thought I had hope again and I ended up recruiting several spiritual slaves for Yahweh/Jesus over the following years by spreading the "gospel".

During this time I was in a constant state of uncertainty over my salvation, being given hope and having it taken away. I was tormented by a "demon" while at the same time experiencing positive feelings from what I thought was the "holy spirit". I also had external synchronicities happening, seemingly confirming that it wasn't all just in my head.

I have now been told several times I am doomed, while also being told several times I am saved. This "god" is either schizophrenic, sadistic or not real and I am just experiencing schizophrenia and a chain of unlikely coincidences myself, which is entirely possible, and maybe that's part of this sick game.

All of this and the lack of historical, archeological and other scientific evidence proving the claims of the Bible makes me think that the biblical god is not who he claims to be. Christianity is not what it appears to be. This god does not have good intentions, he is not operating in good faith if he is real.

Fuck you God you fucking gross viper, you Worthless son of a bitch I hope you get removed one day.

God likes to fuck with people like us because he knew that we would turn against him, just like Jesus knew that Judas would betray him and that Peter would deny him. If you read any of my older posts, you should already know that I have a very strong hatred towards God, and I have no remorse whatsoever for anything I say or do against him.

God has been torturing me since I was a toddler, before I was ever a Christian or a believer. He caused me to have multiple mental issues as a kid, which I still somewhat have but improved in my teens. There used to be a time when I would think people had their own mental problems for saying anything disrespectful towards God, but now I’m the motherfucker saying Fuck God 10+ times a day.

Things have slightly improved since my previous post “No weapon God formed against me shall prosper,” but God is still trying to put pressure on me and communicate to me with his bitch ass angel numbers. Because of God, they have been times in my life when I went months without a job and 5 years without sex.

I learned that God (and also the devil) likes to fuck with us mentally. Last month, I realized that my excessive stress was causing me to socially isolate myself from people and keeping me from staying focused. God decided to attack me just because I chose to be happy regardless. But when God throw boulders at me, I throw them right back at his bitch ass.

Btw God, I don't have a problem exposing my new god-hating personality to the public if wanna keep fucking with me, which is most likely going to happen because God never quits. I been keeping it a secret from family and friends for years that I hate God, but now I'm getting to the point where I don't give a fuck. You have caused me so much anger, that I have become a evil human. Sometimes I hate myself for being evil, other time I feel like I enjoy it because I know God hates it.

My advice and inspiration to anyone reading this: Fuck God, be yourself and do whatever makes you happy. God's gonna fuck with you regardless. There have been times that I read other posts in this group, and I realize that God has put some of us through the same shit. My 2 choices are to either stay mad and do nothing or die trying. My advice to you God, if you really wanna stop me from doing me, kill me!

God seems to favor the wealthy—the polished, the privileged, the ones who can afford to build golden temples and fund praise in His name. They sing louder in churches lined with stained glass while the poor kneel in silence, unheard. He exalts those who devote their lives to Him, demanding time, obedience, and blind faith—yet offers nothing tangible in return. No protection from disease, no shield from loss, no guarantee of peace. Just vague promises of paradise after death, as if suffering were a test and not a design. The faithful bleed themselves dry trying to earn His love, while the rich mask their greed with donation slips and are called blessed. It’s not grace—it’s a transaction rigged in favor of those who need nothing from Him, while those who need everything get silence.

God has favorites, and it’s written all over history and scripture—certain people are chosen, exalted, protected, while others are cast aside with no explanation. He “loved” Jacob but “hated” Esau before they were even born. He walked with Moses, spoke with David, blessed Solomon with riches and wisdom—yet billions live and die in obscurity, never hearing a whisper. Prayers from some are answered swiftly, while others beg into silence their whole lives. Natural disasters don’t care who’s righteous, but somehow, some always seem to be “blessed” while others are left to rot in war zones or starvation. It’s favoritism cloaked in mystery—God plays favorites and calls it providence, rewards a few and calls it grace, ignores the rest and calls it a test. But a test without fairness isn’t divine. It’s just cruel.

God casts humans into a broken world—flooded with suffering, disease, war, and grief—then demands their worship as though cruelty is worthy of reverence. He gives them hunger and dares them to be grateful, gives them death and expects hymns of praise. Like a tyrant who wounds and then insists on being called merciful, He watches in silence as children starve and tyrants thrive, only to punish those who doubt His justice. He demands faith without proof, loyalty without kindness, and love without reciprocation. And when humans dare to question this divine neglect, they are threatened with eternal fire—for the crime of noticing that their god behaves more like a dictator than a savior.

God commands humans to be forgiving, yet floods the earth in rage. He preaches love, but threatens eternal damnation to those who don’t adore Him. He tells people not to kill, yet smites entire cities without remorse. He claims to be just, but doles out blessings and curses with random cruelty—rewarding the wicked and crushing the innocent. He asks for humility, while demanding constant praise for His greatness. He tells His creations not to judge, yet sits as the ultimate judge over every thought and flaw they possess. In every command He gives, He exempts Himself—playing by no rules but demanding obedience to all. A god who cannot live by His own word is not divine. He is simply a hypocrite, cloaked in holiness.

Usually the debate consists of theists who know that objective morality exists, but they claim it is due to some cosmic lawgiver (god) and atheists who claim objective morality can not exist at all. "People disagree on it so it is subjective" Okay, if I disagree that 1+1=2, does that make the answer subjective?

If there is a god, he is either a sadist basking in the suffering of his own creations or so indifferent that worship is nothing more than Stockholm Syndrome dressed up as faith.

Like no way people genuinely believe a man in the sky loves you.

Like if god loved me I wouldn’t be in pain would I be? And if he loved us wouldn’t he protect us from pain? Like no he doesn’t but we have to pray to this same god who “loves” us?

Why does he expect us to give our all to him when he doesn’t give his all like I’m not wasting my energy I literally don’t have energy to give him anyway.