🇯🇵 The owner of 4chan hosts the final Japanese primary election debate. Every single candidate is hopeless. - In which none of the five candidates can form a coherent answer to a simple question

[StMaryPiper]

Why did he not have this debate on 4chan itself?

 

[BABANGUIDE64]

Nice job, OP. Keep it up

 

[Echnaton]

Now this is the kind of gobbledygook you'd expect in eastern european election debates

 

[McMitch]

Waiting for the 2028 Presidential debate hosted by Joshua Moon, it could happen.

He’d declare whatever candidate that promises to bring Limburger to all Americans the winner.

 

[AnOminous]

He’d declare whatever candidate that promises to bring Limburger to all Americans the winner.

I'd buy that for a dollar.

 

[Male Idiot]

All goymocracies are like this.

Yeah. Goymocracy just promotes the worst politicians who lie and bamboozle the voooters, get into power, cash in than retire so another ZOG approved candidate gets vooooted in.

Great OP. Poor Japan. Why do they need to speak English? Don't they got translators?

Still better than Hungarian politics too. That devolved into pro Trump and pro EU "coooonservatives" into a yelling match:
-You are race traitors who hate Israel and commit treason! We love Jesus! You are gay pedos! Praise Stramer and Vonderlayen. Nazi!
-No you are race traitors who hate Israel and commit treason! We love Jesus more you are gayer pedos! Praise Trump and Nethanyau! Nazi!

Ad infinitum.

 

[Faestus]

It's funny that the Yakuza have a lot of stakes in hte Pachinko bs and that's likely why the politicians refuse to speak about it. Gun to the head kinda deal.

 

[AnOminous]

This is like if we had political debates in America and had Nick Rekieta run them and ask the candidates "balls or no balls" futa meme questions.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

He’d declare whatever candidate that promises to bring Limburger to all Americans the winner.

It's better to ask them what is bread/cheese made of and then ask them to guess how many ingredients are there on the label.

 

[Seethan Ralph]

So, Japan is on the same path Trudeauist Canada is? Either way, how long will it take before the events of Nepal's zoomer revolution unfold in nipland?

 

[Ranine Avatar]

All eyes are on Koizumi, the guy with a master's in PolSci from an Ivy League school.

Visibly flustered, Koizumi answers in Japanese, calls out Hiroyuki’s trolling, and seethes (literally sucking his teeth). Then he rambles about improving Japan–US relations.

saw these in the chat

- ウソンビア大学だったか
- 進次郎留学してたよな？
- 一言も無理w

 

[Sprocket]

yeah japs make up a large portion of its population coincidence?

Not for much longer. Japan is looking into importing masses of third-worlders from third world shit hole countries, probably a cheap labor thing, and confining them to designated towns in what I understand to be a pseudo-apartheid system.

They're going to breed like rabbits, muh human rights protests will start and Japan will lose its identity and become the third world shit hole they imported from.

 

[Clostridium Botulinum]

Like how chefs study French haute cuisine as a benchmark style or pianists train classically, political scientists should spend at least 2 semesters studying Japanese politics to fully comprehend the fuckery that is power.

Japan's political system rivals only their porn when it comes to utter degeneracy

 

[Fcret]

So, Japan is on the same path Trudeauist Canada is? Either way, how long will it take before the events of Nepal's zoomer revolution unfold in nipland?

There are no zoomers in Japan. At least, not an electorally significant amount. The last time Japan had above replacement fertility was in the 1970s. By the year 2000, Japan was well below where the US is today.

Hiroyuki Nishimura, age 48, is the hip young guy in the room.

 

[Computer God Autism]

Japan isn't heaven on earth but it's not nearly as bad as western internet circles seem to think. I don't think I've ever considered Japan either of those things, especially because Japan has just as much if not more anti-monopoly laws than the U.S as post war part of the allied docket was to prevent the Zaibatsu (tri-pact wartime monopolies) from happening again as they had immense political sway. That's not to say monopolies don't exist but they're no more prevalent than the U.S with tech companies trying to buy everything they don't already own. The Yakuza aren't running the government like a south American cartel either. Not to say they don't have grubby hands in government pie somewhere but they don't really rule.

I think grocery stores are good indication of the general state of monopolies in a country. Everyone needs food and ensuring the stable supply of it is one of the fundamental duties of any government.

In America, nearly seventy percent of the grocery business is controlled by only four companies; Walmart, Kroger, Costco and Albertsons. Kroger is especially egregious, as they try to hide this by buying up regional competitors and letting them keep a separate name as long as they stock Kroger products (Private Selection, Simple Truth, etc.) and recently tried to acquire Albertsons but got shot down by the FTC. While there are viable regional chains (Publix, Wegmans, etc.) they have more difficulty affording the overhead involved in processing EBT/SNAP/Food Stamps than the big four because of how tight profit margins are on most grocery products, so they'll never reasonably be able to compete as long as the fed keeps handing out roundabout subsidies to the monopolies, and obviously anything smaller than a regional chain can't survive. This isn't even touching on the suppliers of the goods being sold, where in almost every category around eighty percent of any given product is controlled by only three or four companies, with it being a coin-toss as to whether or not they outsource the majority of their production (the meat industry is particularly bad in that respect).

Comparatively, while Aeon, Pan Pacific and 7&I are the largest overall, Japan has about 350 dedicated supermarket chains with only 5-20 stores. Even accounting for some of them belonging to the same holding groups, that's still less centralized than America, and their supply chain tends to be more fragmented and local. Obviously this is just one example, but the idea that Japan is some monopolistic hellhole compared to current year America is absurd.

 

[Tremolo]

There are no zoomers in Japan. At least, not an electorally significant amount. The last time Japan had above replacement fertility was in the 1970s. By the year 2000, Japan was well below where the US is today.

Hiroyuki Nishimura, age 48, is the hip young guy in the room.

This is probably the real certification of the LDP's reign of power lol. Pretty much even if young voters swing completely contrary to the status quo (and oddly enough they don't really), all the old people will still outvote them by pure numbers and more unified support, its insane.

Despite the fact Hiroyuki is infamous in Japan, the fact he's somehow viewed as less of a boogeyman than Null surprises me the most. Either way, Japan's future is not bright nor hopeful. (But then again, what part of the world has hope these days.)

Null is hardly comparable when you really stack the influence of 2channel to Kiwifarms as well as its relative notoriety, especially since Null is really only known for this site (and 8chan lol). I don't think a mild segue way into politics is so unfeasible for him either though, .

Hiroyuki also helped manage NicoNico (Japan's youtube equivalent) and he's been on Japanese TV a bunch. You could argue he's more of just a generic influencer type nowadays but he's had his pie in enough hands for a lot of people to know him and also take him as a reasonable authority in some areas. I think the likeliest kind of person that could pull of the kind of stream that he did would be Joe Rogan, oddly enough (though Rogan isn't tapped into internet culture like Hiro and one has to argue what a west equivalent of that stream would even look like, just him hosting a debate between Kamala and Trump instead of it being on mainstream news hosts I guess? This isn't such a bad idea actually).

 

[Michael Wade]

There are no zoomers in Japan. At least, not an electorally significant amount. The last time Japan had above replacement fertility was in the 1970s. By the year 2000, Japan was well below where the US is today.

Hiroyuki Nishimura, age 48, is the hip young guy in the room.

Don't quote me but I'm told the rise of feminism and letting women vote is the reason for this.

 

[Ultima Ratio Regum]

Inshallah the CPJ eventually get elected and they abolish the constitution.

Sanseito is always mentioned in various press articles and discussions because of its impressive recent scores, but the also very new CPJ seems much more serious and promising to me, and its result in the last elections, at least in terms of number of votes in the national vote, seems quite reasonable — nearly 3 million, beating the Communist Party. However, it is rare to read in-depth information about it. If OP or someone else with more knowledge than me could tell us more, it would be appreciated.

 

[Seethan Ralph]

There are no zoomers in Japan. At least, not an electorally significant amount. The last time Japan had above replacement fertility was in the 1970s. By the year 2000, Japan was well below where the US is today.

Hiroyuki Nishimura, age 48, is the hip young guy in the room.

so there is no one to even initiate Day of the Pillow, that's scary.

 

[Fcret]

Don't quote me but I'm told the rise of feminism and letting women vote is the reason for this.

It likely had more to do with mass urbanization and the Japanese government's policies which prioritized saving over consumption in order to pool capital into a development boom and keep the price of labor low. The typical 'East Asian thriftiness' we think about as a stereotype has more to do with a type of development-driven government planning which Japan pioneered (and then everyone else in the region copied) than a specific cultural quirk.

Feminism probably plays a part in cutting some of the most unsavory sources of new births (ie teenage mothers) but, for example, the US where feminism was also quite prevalent (and arguably more successful) actually saw birth rates go back up above replacement in the late 80s/early 90s and lasting through roughly 2009. This is also why millennials are seemingly fucking everywhere.