luchagcaileag:
โ€œ โ€œThe Situation
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So, Kiwifarms has killed a webcomic and surrounding media with, at best, accusations that are right but made for the wrong reasons, and quite likely distortions or outright lies because thatโ€™s what they fucking do....

luchagcaileag:

The Situation

So, Kiwifarms has killed a webcomic and surrounding media with, at best, accusations that are right but made for the wrong reasons, and quite likely distortions or outright lies because thatโ€™s what they fucking do. Itโ€™s a reactionary cesspool of harassment a la Encyclopedia Dramatica, but progressives are taking it seriously because callout culture has gotten to the point where sources or mitigating circumstances donโ€™t matter so long as someoneโ€™s saying someone is teh bad.

โ€ฆ We need to fucking talk, people. Stop doing the work of reactionary assholes in your eagerness to be โ€œpure.โ€ 

Maybe stop supporting abusers.

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trickieblog:
โ€œ fuckingconversations:
โ€œ alithographica:
โ€œ alithographica:
โ€œ igyid:
โ€œ alithographica:
โ€œLiberty x Justice for all.
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Why did you make liberty black and justice Muslim ?
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So hereโ€™s a distilled explanation of Why Liberty Is Black and Why...

trickieblog:

fuckingconversations:

alithographica:

alithographica:

igyid:

alithographica:

Liberty x Justice for all.

Why did you make liberty black and justice Muslim ?

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So hereโ€™s a distilled explanation of Why Liberty Is Black and Why Justice Is Muslim for those who are confused by the rampant inaccuracies. Iโ€™ll spell it out.

  1. Artistic license
  2. I live in the US and the political landscape is a dumpster fire. This is a protest piece.
  3. Liberty and Justice are concepts based loosely on ancient gods from a multiracial civilization. They are also deeply American concepts, and one of the great American dreams is that we are a melting pot of equality* for all races and religions.

*Terms and conditions may apply.

With the political point Iโ€™m trying to make, those 3 things are more than enough to justify this depiction. (Not that it even needs justification; itโ€™s my personal art.)

Educational sidebar: A nonwhite Lady Liberty is actually well-founded: Consider that The Statue of Liberty was originally proposed by the president of the French Emancipation Society. Prior to designing the Statue of Liberty, the sculptor had wanted to build a similar piece on the Suez Canal based on an Egyptian peasant woman. This never came to fruition but became an early iteration of our American Lady Liberty. Also thereโ€™s a black Lady Liberty coin coming soon (and this coin was a major design element for Lady Liberty here).

But honestly โ€˜accuracyโ€™ is beside the point.

For all of the questions Iโ€™ve gotten on this piece, 90% relate to the race/religion of Liberty and Justice. People are bothered by the perceived inaccuracies there and totally skip over the gay part. I imagine that Liberty and Justice kissing should, maybe, also be considered inaccurate because thatโ€™s actually where I took the biggest leap. I literally had no reason to do it except itโ€™s that cute and gay and political. I personified the judicial system coming to protect the liberties of people legislatively marginalized for their race or religionโ€ฆas two queer women. Yet somehow that is not the most inaccurate part to people.

No, god forbid anyone depict two //personified concepts// as nonwhite to represent and recognize the vast marginalization of POC in this country, particularly black and Muslim communities.

p.s. the fact that Libertas and Iusticia are both conceived as female by Greeks and Romans is also arbitrary maybe one or both of them are actually transwomen or genderqueer or agender because everything cultural that you hold dear is a construct have a good day

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Hi @ghostluneโ€‹ I can see from your blog that we just think of the world in two fundamentally different ways but I donโ€™t think thatโ€™s reason to not have a little historical education

1. French is a nationality, not a race. You can, in fact, be black and French. What I suspect you meant is โ€œthe Statue of Liberty is a white womanโ€.

2. Please refer to the โ€œEducational sidebarโ€ section above where I discuss why a nonwhite Liberty is pretty in-line with both the French and American visions of her. It has citations and everything. Itโ€™s cool, I promise.

I ship it

I think itโ€™s far more likely that people back then wouldโ€™ve had a bigger problem with them being depicted as lesbians than they would with them being portrayed as black or muslim. If Iโ€™m thinking of the right time periods, anyway.

this is trash trickie smh

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Beware of Shmorky/Daisy Kay

holyfuckingchrist:

arthelll:

usually these things arent my cup of tea and i try to stay out of tumblr drama as much as possible, but this has gone farther from this on a pretty huge scale. unfortunately my ability to word things is hard, so please bear with me. if you can word this better or add anything including screenshots of the thread, please go ahead. i cant select any specifics from that site nor take screenshots well with this computer. thank you.

Itโ€™s been shown now several times that shmorky, butthug, bughutt, etc (creator of the beloved klurfs) is an abuser pedophile who openly admitted to preying on the mentally ill,homeless for feel of control and power. two of their former exโ€™s have come up and shown proof and stated that in their time with them, they were abused and manipulated.

The biggest โ€œbombโ€ dropped in this whole issue was a whopping 91 pages of a cyber sex rp log with a then 16 year old mentally ill person, (cw for pedophilia, incest, unsanitary, creepiness) screenshots can be seen here (i do not want these images anywhere on my blog). if you can stomach these logs i recommend them - you can clearly see shmork grooming this poor minor who doesnโ€™t have any interest at first.

his ex fiancee has talked about her time living with them, and while some is questionable as she is schizophrenic and has admitted to not remembering things completely clearly at times, some of the information has been confirmed by lowtax, who had worked with shmorky for years.

unfortunately all of this information is discussed over kiwifarms, on a thread specifically made to gather more information about good ol shmork (i do recommend reading this thread, if you can handle some seriously messed up stuff. cw for pedophilia, nsfw art, incest, everything else). this site definitely has a 4chan anti sjw/whatever attitude in it and does use slurs quite a bit, but seeing as shmorkys fanbase is mainly 15 y/o sjws i think that even sources that use words that arent โ€œokโ€ to use should be taken seriously until there is solid proof they didnโ€™t do any of these things. I know tumblr does this for women who come up about rape, abuse, etc, and this shouldnโ€™t be any different unless proven otherwise.


this isnt meant to be a callout post or anything of the sort, its meant to spread information and protect young people, especially minors, from an artist who is EXTREMELY manipulative, abusive, and is clearly into pedophilia and incest. Shmorky is a dangerous person, and i dread to think what could happen to more children under their influence and facade of being the โ€œgood sjw ^__^โ€

So i am making it clear i donโ€™t want any more involvement aside from updating information. if you want to argue with me about any of this go ahead, but im not touching it unless there is SOLID, INDISPUTABLE proof shmorky didnt do these things.

please donโ€™t excuse or dismiss stories because someone is a sjw. this is important and alarming information about someone with a huge influence over minors, and though the sources might be shady, itโ€™s worth considering, ESPECIALLY if you are in contact or trust this person. be safe. and be smart.

ok first of all. โ€œshmorkyโ€™s fanbase is all 15 y/o sjwsโ€ โ€œI know you people on tumblr do this for women who come forward about rape and abuseโ€ what the fuck is with this weird tone who are you again 

this is just a fucking disgrace of a call out post thatโ€™s trying to say itโ€™s not a call out post letโ€™s break this down

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lol โ€œbewareโ€

no too bad you donโ€™t get to go โ€œexcuse my bad writingโ€ when youโ€™re literally publicly accusing someone of pedophilia, I swear to god people accuse each other of pedophilia every five seconds that word is fucking heavy and means something, put some effort into your literally one page long post  

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  1. you canโ€™t just say โ€œitโ€™s been shown several timesโ€ you have to cite your fucking sources
  2. p sure only one of them was an ex and the other was skype sex for like three months http://sli.mg/a/vZDAL8 check the dates, first message feb 9 2014, last rp session may 8 2014, they literally barely talked after that 
  3. i could not find a single screenshot where they openly admitted โ€œpreying on people for feel of control and power.โ€ also: a mentally ill person venting about how they feel like a bad person isnt the same thing as a fucking confession it happens literally everyday
  4. regarding their ex: Iโ€™m sorry are you taking one personโ€™s word at face value, in a relationship that we have audio proof (fucked up, a recorded interaction b/w two very mentally ill people) was mutually abusive, that apparently shmorky was the abuser? when itโ€™s a super common thing that abusers accuse their victims of abuse? and abuse victims are shamed for not speaking up but face retribution when they do speak up? Hello? I thought I was on Tumblr, where everybody knows every fucking thing about abuse, what a fucking joke
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yeah donโ€™t bother going thru 91 pages I grabbed the highlights post for you https://kiwifarms.net/threads/shmorky-david-kelly-daisy-kay.23467/page-91#post-1978391

teenagers getting pressured by popular artists into sex stuff is bad shit 

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yeah I saw her and lowtax both complaining about shmorkyโ€™s anxiety and depression symptoms too, with the added bonus of how unreasonable shmorky was to try to get them to respect their pronouns, cool

man the ex fiancee route is fruitless donโ€™t even go there its honestly a mutual horror show from everything ive seen

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you seriously recommend reading this thread? i donโ€™t recommend reading this thread. did you warn for shmorkyโ€™s content, which is all behind spoiler tags by the way, and not for every single post in this thread laughing at how funny and fucked up it is for a man to be feminine? and about how shmorkyโ€™s rape claim is definitely fake and attention seeking, and theyโ€™re not even areal trans? did you miss that part because thatโ€™s about 100% of the thread. but yeah. it doesnโ€™t matter that im pissed you didnโ€™t put the warnings, it matters that you apparently hang out with blatant transmisogynists and think their behaviour isnt fucked up enough to warrant a clarification beyond โ€œ4chan/anti-sjw/whatever attitudeโ€?

also: what the hell is โ€œI know tumblr does this for women who come up about rapeโ€ supposed to mean? is the thing that youโ€™re saying tumblr does, not dismissing abuse victims immediately? is that not how itโ€™s done wherever youโ€™re from?  well I mean itโ€™s kiwifarms so I knew that already?

but no youโ€™re right, every single person in that website being a sackful of shit doesnโ€™t mean they donโ€™t have legitimate receipts, which they get from routinely hideously violating peoples privacy by the way. but yes. itโ€™s good that this is being discussed, itโ€™s good that teenagers on the internet know about grooming. hey maybe we should talk about, how do we get information to younger people on the internet regarding what it looks like when an adult you admire is pushing you into something you donโ€™t want? how about we tell abusers not to abuse instead of telling victims to avoid abusers, and talk about red flags that tell you your partner is not totally into this, especially since that sort of thing is harder to see over the internet? why donโ€™t we talk to everybody about what a consenting conversation looks like versus one where the other person is just trying to impress you? this โ€œi and the people around me are good people and could never do thisโ€ bs is so boring

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im not disputing shit im saying youโ€™re an asshole

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Jesus Christ. what the hell does โ€œdonโ€™t excuse or dismiss stories because someone is an sjwโ€ mean. I guess anybody who disagrees with you is obviously excusing or dismissing abuse because shmorky is an sjw? 

โ€œsources might be shadyโ€ sources are only shady when itโ€™s literally shmorkyโ€™s ex, talking about how bad her ex was, and lowtax, a dude who ran his office into the ground in 2015, saying he really doesnโ€™t get his friendโ€™s anxiety problems and they should just get over it

all in all: thereโ€™s literally only one part of this worth looking at and itโ€™s the chat logs

everything else on kiwifarms is garbage hearsay (have none of you seriously heard people talk about their exes? im like in shock) (regarding the thing about shmorky taking away her pills: yeah, wtf. but I donโ€™t see the value in looking at one single event in that relationship when we literally have an audio log of her shoving a KNIFE at them while screaming that they secretly want to hurt her (which is a symptom of her mental illness but also emotionally manipulative as fuck toward a person whos also mentally ill) & we literally donโ€™t know anything else about that relationship that isnโ€™t, again, a person, complaining, about her ex, when they were both mentally ill and mutually abusive,

โ€œshmorky has a thing for controlling people and gravitates toward psychotic pplโ€ this statement is stupid because people in relationships get fucked up thinking they control their partners too much all the time. also their ex fiancee was their roommate before they dated, so it doesnโ€™t seem like they like, saw that she was psychotic and tracked her down or some shit. and carefully, shmorkyโ€™s 17 yr old at the time fan, actively talked to them on fb and sought them out on skype its not like shmorky went after them either lmao? itโ€™s not that hard to believe that a mentally ill person hanging out in mentally ill ppl circles would date two people who are psychotic?

yall usually at least get a little bit sympathetic when someone gets called out for gross shit on line so, sorry, I just have a hard time believing that u just all happened to see through the veneer and realize that shmorky is a bad person despite literally everything thatโ€™s not the chat logs being unconvincing as shit. & which can easily be interpreted to show shmorky in a much more positive light than the assholes making those claims. itโ€™s cool that everybody jumped on board this trainwreck and are all so eager to absolutely demolish this person, could it be because theyโ€™re dmab and feminine and low socioeconomic status and mentally ill maybe  

yall know that the ppl in kiwifarms thread laugh about shmorky trying to pitch their voice higher or wearing wigs, right, and that they posted a picture labeled โ€œnsfw disgustingโ€ that was literally just a regular picture of shmorky wearing leggings that doesnโ€™t show anything? which is a vicious violation of trust by his ex, by the way, in case you didnโ€™t know that exes posting private pics of the women they dated and shaming them for having the audacity to show off their bodies, was a thing that is insidious and happens irl? this is all b4 the chatlogs were posted theyโ€™re just regularly like this, and even if it isnโ€™t, what happened to โ€œno matter how bad a person is Iโ€™ll respect their identity bc all trans ppl deserve to be respectedโ€ I guess all that goes out the door if someoneโ€™s nb dmab lol 

so how much do you love poopy diapers

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batbitequeen:

Y'all are fucking sloppy as hell and need to realize how these posts are fucking proving grounds for transmisogynists that DESPERATELY want to misgender and delegitimize trans women under the guise of being progressive

Thereโ€™s a RIGHT way to make these types of posts about really bad trans women and linking to kiwifarms while humoring misgendering people isnโ€™t the fucking right way

ya!

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