>>515493071 (OP)
Considering the left is centralized into cities, it will likely be sieges where the Right simply cuts off supplies by destroying logistic nodes and blockades and then just waits for the left to die of starvation.

>>515493071 (OP)
A lot like that map. A complete Balkinization of America. And it would never become united again in any of our life times.

Its physically impossible because the right doesn't have the will to defend itself. They're happy with just following the orders of their abusers and being sent to Afghanistan instead which has nothing to do with them.

It will be escalating acts of violence with no impact on the federal government. Like a gang war.

>>515493071 (OP)
a shitton of dead city ratfuck shitlibs, then nothing, everything goes back to normal pretty quickly just less blue haired cunts screaming on the street about nothing.

Daily reddit posts about how they're winning bigly and the food shortages are fake news

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>>515493071 (OP)
>What are some historical parallels

any focusing on leftists or muslims instead of jews in power is a jewish psyop. division and distraction are the weapon of jews.

daily reminder that they objectively :

- brought muslims in the west and called you a nazi fascist if you complained
- created the leftists through decades of propaganda

if you want vengeance get Destiny, one for one

>>515493502
>>515493071 (OP)

right wingers won’t do shit even as the left actively kills their leaders as we’ve seen so it would end with the right-generals being killed and Israel swooping in to “save the day” and annex the U.S.

>>515493857
This post is disappointing.
Your father would shake his head and sigh.

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>>515493071 (OP)
>How would a second American civil war look like?
Like something straight from a comedy

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He was right.

>>515493071 (OP)
Like the first guy said, sieges. But I would also say that the Right will be thrust into a rural guerilla-like scenario. Those ones always win. Even if we go down the Years of Lead route, the Left would be cast in urban guerilla style which they have lost under in the 60s-70s.

>>515494033
lol no he wouldn't, he thinks Americans are mentally deficient faggots too.

>>515493502
>oh no we won’t have meth in cities anymore
Rightwingers provide nothing to this country and are a drain on resources.

>>515493718
Shut the fuck up jew

>>515494303
No, I said that because it isn't a webm or some such. I'm talkin' shit, mate.

>>515493502
fpbp
/thread

>>515493071 (OP)
Racewar between blacks and Hispanics while whites watch from their reservations/ internment camps

>>515493071 (OP)
More like the troubles i think. Either that or just a purge of millions and then we as a society agree to never talk about it again.

>>515493502
this seems likely

>>515494347
he'll yeah borther, dumbass rurals don't know about supermarkets

>>515494406
That footage doesn't exist any more, so keep hoping.

>>515494013
put the syrup away man

>>515494347
>t. buys $8.99 eggs at 7-11

>>515494549
Well. Fuck.
I even partially remember the damn video.

>>515494365
Not an argument

>>515494625
>Buys eggs

>>515493071 (OP)
It would be the fattest war ever fought

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>>515493071 (OP)
What civil war? One side has
>the vast majority of the guns
>occupies 99% of actual jobs
>produce all the food, work with all of the infrastructure
>makes up the overwhelming majority of the military
The other side has:
>paper pushers, bureaucrats, judges, academics
>cities that would collapse into a cannibal bloodbath within 3 days
>military higher ups who will bail to Canada before wielding a gun
The only thing lacking is will. If a civil war actually happens, it will be a one sided bloodbath, but cuckservatives are unlikely to ever fight back.

If we look at the 4 biggest left wing revolutions (Germany failed, Italy failed, Russia succeeded but Stalin tore it all down, France was a resounding success), the French revolution was a success, because they managed to mobilize the academia and other scum living in the urban centres of power to target the opposing leadership directly while the Russian one because they both managed to do that and to con the working class into supporting them. In this case, none of that can happen. The working class is against them, and due to the circumstances even if they cleansed the urban centres like Washington DC and other major urban areas of every right winger, it wouldn't actually help them win at all.

This will be more like Tutsi vs Hutu or other ethnic conflicts, except along political lines as well as racial.

>>515494720
Theres no point in arguing over your retarded post. Of course the right doesnt have the will to fight because its 90% boomers.
But what happens once baby boomers die out? Radicalized Gen Zers take their place.

it would look a little like the alex garland documentary... cant wait for that final scene to actually happen

also for the braindead nazis--do you realize anyone in the usa can purchase a weapon despite political affiliation? are you aware the mass majority of people strongly oppose fascism? do you have any clue how outnumbered you will be if this actually happens? keep advocating for your own demise :)

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>>515494873
Meanwhile irl

>>515493071 (OP)
It wouldn't escalate to a true war. It would be like African countries where opposing forces just randomly off each other and most ignore it.

>>515494758
I highly doubt citycucks are allowed to build coops in their 5x5 commie block apartment

>>515494873
There's nothing retarded about it. Rightoids never fight back. They only fight random foreigners while trannies destroy their country back home.

>>515495468
based child murdering trans sisters they will never be real adults :3

>>515493502
You know that cities have people, right? The majority of people.

>>515493502
>Considering the left is centralized into cities, it will likely be sieges where the Right simply cuts off supplies by destroying logistic nodes and blockades and then just waits for the left to die of starvation.

There would be mass killings of rural fed loyalists before anything like that happens. Just because an area is 88% diehard cletus-republican, it does not mean that there are no pro-federals there. These have to be taken care of before its possible to organize anything large scale. Also, do not forget "deradicalizers" who claim to be on the cletus side, while preaching federal government appeasement. Expect the usual suspects - christpriests, journalists, influencers etc. These will be picked off as the self radicalization increases.

>>515493502
To be fair, the spanish civil war was similar in that the left's main power base was the cities. Nowadays, the cities would have the manpower to occupy good chunks of land and seize food, and since most of them are near large bodies of water they could just import food from abroad. So in the US, one could expect the left to hold firm on the east/west coast, the great lakes close to Canada, and maybe some cities in the south like New Orleans and Houston

>>515493071 (OP)
I wish I could read that. several of those are probably very clever

>>515495604
This isn't an advantage at all. The more people are concentrated into cities the more fragile they are and the worse it will be when it collapses. The bigger the city, the longer and more fragile the supply chain.

Cities would turn into absolute hellscapes very quickly in a real civil war.

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>>515493071 (OP)
I was writing a sci-fi novel called;
>"THE U AND THE SA"
Temporary name.
>THE UNION
>THE STATE ALLIANCE
Seen from the point of view of a British war reporter.
I gave up on it because it started to come true and look too real.
Looks like I'll be writing a history book instead.

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>>515494347
It's ok to kill leftists.

>>515493502
Didn’t we already try this in the Civil War and what happened was
>Cities lose in the beginning
>Send more and more men via railroad
>Bleed the confederacy dry
>Manufacture way more guns and gear (Confederacy has to import them constantly)
>Confederacy is crushed under sheer weight of Union manpower
More likely scenario is each city annexes enough nearby land to provide for food for its people (except Phoenix which is in a literal desert and just collapses)

>>515495983
Leftists today are even more dysgenic than Spanish leftists of the 1930s.
Have you seen a leftist gathering?

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>>515496079
Lookup "The Fire Rises"

>>515496234
>FYI it started with claymores being planted at a party rally in plastic vases of flowers pointed toward the crowd
>the phrase "REMEMBER THE 2700" was spray painted everywhere
>no combatants are ever taken prisoner, all shot dead
>medics shoot the wounded
>roaming bands of negros in technicals
>nigger warlords control some urban areas
>farming stops
>farms lie abandoned and overgrown
>food airdropped in for civilians is taken by armed bands
All these things happen in Africa today so I simply transferred the concepts to the former-usa.
Starting to look too real now.

I want to invent a fun scenario of states clashing against states and uniting into political blocks.
But if you think about it more rationally, it's just gonna be decided by whoever the military decides to back.

>>515496971
>THE UNION AND THE STATE ALLIANCE

>>515496971
More likely that the military will be their own entity.
No need for them to 'align' with anyone except themselves. It's what happens in Africa.
You are looking at this all wrong.
There can be more than one faction aligned only with themselves even if there's a civil war going on between essentially TWO main factions.
>mericans are very binary in their thinking; a OR b
Real life isn't like that.

>>515493071 (OP)
given the political left doesn't have the military or police under their command at present it probably won't happen, just a slow throttling of blue states and criminalization of their activities, Newsome doesn't have the same ability Abbott does to refuse federal advances.

OK BUT JUST GET EVEN BY DESPAWNING DESTINY STOP TALKING AND DESPAWN DESTIYN ITS VERY SIMPLE

IF YOU DONT FIGHT BACK ITS OVER SO GET DESTINY HES A PEICE OF SHIT AND DESERVES A THOUSANDS GAME OVERS AND YOU KNOW IT

>>515493071 (OP)
Won't happen. Too many old people too few young people and technology make it very easy to monitor and catch extremists.

>>515497538
>technology make it very easy to monitor and catch extremists
Like how they've caught this shooter already?

>>515497317
Generally in the military, the actual soldiers are pretty conservative, while the brass and top generals are really liberal and neocon. In this situation, if the soldiers are all heavily obedient to their commanders, things will probably go badly for the right. Then again if there's a mutiny, you might not get stable leadership afterwards and it could become a chaotic shitshow instead. The military of America is so fucking powerful, whoever gets more of the soldiers and military assets is just going to win. Straight up.

>>515493071 (OP)
The average American is fat, lazy and complacent, neither anyone on the left or right is actually going to do shit and instead continue to sit and watch as rights continue to be stripped away in the interest of corporations and ZOG

>>515494456
More like watching in comfort from our hardened Paramilitary HOAs.

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It's pure zionist fantasy, no civil conflict between states.

Revolution is coming from coast to coast.

The zionist will answer for their crimes.

For Epstein and for 9/11 too.

>>515497703
Or the troops take their equipment and drive through the fence one evening and go own and run a few towns, after shooting their CO and not answering to anyone.

>>515497761
Correct, reading these war/revenge fantasies from people who spent their time on a tranime incel forum is so fucking cringe

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>>515497873

The entire anti-government front is armed nationalists and it will come together with the zionist resistance in the Middle East.

You think revolution is something just for commies? The USA was born on successful nationalist revolution.

>>515497873
Militias are mostly old men pretending they're still valid and are as ineffective as monkey-pox ridden Kansas City faggots.
All these groups are part time nobodies and some blowhard with a tiny dick in charge.
It's the militia or the golf club for these guys.
>pew pew won over the 9-holes
Don't waste my fucking time mentioning them.

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>>515493789
Based knower

Which prominant leftie fag will be killed in retaliation?
That massive jenner poof or Biden's fave tranny who was on that budlite can?

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>>515496079
Here's a better one. Pretty good mod.

>>515496081
Nonsense. Most freedom lovin' obese Americans are suburbanites, including those that larp as conservative rural Marlboro men. They are dependent on the urban centers for access to resource distribution. The actual rural population is tiny and extremely thinly spread.
If it goes down to rightoid chimpout it'll be at the state level where each state's army would crack down on their cities/rural areas depending on alignment.
In the entirely schizophrenic scenario of rural vs urban outside state lines, the Federal forces will retain control of the air force and secure convoys linking whatever urban centers they please from attack. Not to mention most large cities in """""left"""""" (Democrat, there's no left in the US) are coastal with port access to both oceans for imports.

>>515496745
Civil War 1 was fought as a conventional war, which no one will attempt nowadays. Looking to CW1 for historical parallels is lunacy.

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>>515495604
>cities, people

>>515495983
>occupy good chunks of land and seize food

Yes, they'll take mass transit out to the country.

>>515493071 (OP)
A computer in DC will correctly calculate that this will lead to 5.666 (repeating of cource) percent of shortfall in tax revenue and then the president will okay the launch of several drones armed with hellfire missiles
The whole thing will be over in about 40 minutes

>>515499015
Most African americans live in the rural and urban South

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>>515493071 (OP)
Im glad you asked anon
John mark here with mark my words and the first thing we do is piss our pants.
>only old fags know what this is

>>515499292
>urban niggers
They'll starve and be eating each other the week following the EBT cards stop working.

>>515495983
No, there's too many different groups in cities infighting would destabilize and destroy them

>>515493071 (OP)
Feds kill every rebel factions within days, total goyim death

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>>515493071 (OP)
>Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Ohio, all of Appalachia
>union with jew Jersey, Mossad Maryland, and Delaware

Come on, at least put in some effort.

>>515499573
Yeah and the exact scenario you're describing happened in Spain in the 30s, and the left managed to fight them both.

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>>515493502
>>515494522
>>515496745
>>515494447
It’s like you guys can’t even be bothered to check historical examples

In all cases cities dominate the countryside

The original nations were all CITY-states

The Bolshevik revolution started by controlling only saint petersburg. The rural retards were the kulaks who were robbed and killed and starved by the tens of millions by the red guard. The red guard being "city fags"

During the French Revolution, after we had already become republican, political parties that represented the provinces decided to break off and France fell in a civil War. Paris BY ITSELF conquered all of France (the montagne). As in one city is stronger militarily than the rest of the country combined. Now France is an extreme case of centralisation but still.

Babylon? One city that conquered the region. Sparta? Same. Rome? Same. Russian empire? Same, started as the city of Moscow. Athens? Same. Aztec empire? Same.

Cities are HYPER overpowered in war and nothing can stand in their way. You don’t starve our a city they break out and rampage the countryside.

Take this into account for any war plan.

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I think we could divide into 4 or 5 better nations.

I want to live in an all white ethnostate called New Germany which occupies most of the Northern USA. The blacks can have their Lil Wakanda in the South and the South American peasants can have Commie-fornia and the other border nations, but in exchange for those lands of their own, they have to get the fuck out of New Germany and never bother white people ever again.

>>515496900
>Lookup "The Fire Rises"
Just watch the video instead lol it’s much better
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rbWyaxIUifU [Embed]

>>515500776
>and the left managed to fight them both.
Didn’t the anarchists basically fight the commies until the end?

And a post war assessment calculating that the anarchists were wasting 90% of the resources they had an a total black hole like drain on the commies ressources?

Basically CHAV but trying to fight a war
Wish I had been there to witness it lol

>>515494013
>kills their leaders
Wasn't Charlie a Centrist?

>>515500776
But Spain didn't have a massive nigger population in their cities, and those animals will destabilize and destroy the cities from the inside out

>>515493071 (OP)
Electricity, water, food will be cut off to cities, niggers and eat libtards and each other, then we walk in and clean up the survivors.
Simple as

>>515493502
fpbp
/thread

>>515501624
Do you have any fact back that up
I don’t know, for instance this scenario happening once in all of recorded history

Cities besieged by already existing massive armies of course don’t count since as far as I can tell you don’t have a well funded well organized foreign invasion army

>>515501863
Most libtards and niggers wouldn’t survive one day without electricity

>>515500781
This frog speaks the truth

>>515501624
The key is to deal with the initial outpouring of people, with just in time delivery most cities don't have the food to sustain their population for more than a week or two. If you can contain, or drive them back for that long they'll die off.

>>515501529
Spaniards are niggers.

All the resources, military equipment, soldiers, infrastructure etc are in the blue states and cities. They will also have the benefit of interior lines and better collectivisation/centralisation of resources. They would also have the support of every other world power except Israel. It would be a very short war.

You idiot, Oklahoma and Texas are joining up, and the first thing we'd do is glass Colorado. If you don't get THAT right it isn't worth considering.

>>515493071 (OP)
new england plus new york should be one blob.

>>515502550
>blue states
You mean blue cities who will run out of food within a day? Fuck you, retard. JFC.

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>>515493071 (OP)
Choke points out of the major coastal cities like the Delaware Water Gap and Cajon Pass will look like Iraq's "Highway of Death" in a matter of days.

>>515502961
It's a lot easier to find food than build an industrial base, transport network, telecommunications etc

>>515503441
Cities get blockaded and then eradicated, hey look they found food AND infra.
Are you retarded?

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>>515493071 (OP)
when we theorized last year it came down to the trigger event

>>515493071 (OP)
it'd be an urban war, focused on mobility scooters advancing from one parking lot to another while strafing each other with heavy suppression fire from double wielded school shooter rifles. the air space would be controlled by bald eagles with gatling guns. at least that's how i imagine it.

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>>515503702
Cities would have an overhwelming advantage in manpower and materiel, at least in the first stages. They would easily expand outwards into agricultural areas.

>>515493071 (OP)
It won't be north vs south. It'll be red vs blue. Rural vs urban

>>515501119
lmao
lol even

>>515504328
communist only ever lost a revolution when they didnt get the capital in time i think

>>515493502
Sounds like exactly what mossad and Israel wants. Their top goy has been bad. We must be punished.

>>515494347
right, and all the meat and eggs are labgrown in the supermarket staff area, amirite?

fucking retard.

>>515496782
And the right is made up of obese boomers. Sounds like an even match to me

>>515504328
>They would easily expand outwards into agricultural areas.
>>515502174
People who know history and strategy.

>>515504328
For the Bolshevik, they controlled
>the big cities
>the railways
>the rivers
That’s it GG no re the other factions stood no chance from these factors alone

Plus non judeobolsheviks were all pants on head retarded, they disbanded the Russian army and all the Russian soldiers just went home and didn’t fight at all during the civil war as the commies took over
Actual clown business. The jewish Bolshevik were objectively far more intelligent in terms of make military decisions and having correct psychological expectations + also much better at running things and organizing

It proved irrevocably that east European Jews are far racially superior to Russians. It was like a professional MMA fighter beating up 50 toddlers. That’s what the Russian civil war was like

Then Stalin, the absolute troll, outsmarts them all. Stalin doesn’t get enough credit. I’m not even sure he actually believed in communism by the time he took power, he seems completely jaded and cynical, though he was a real believer as a teenager

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>>515493071 (OP)
If this actually happened, Texas might be the third largest nuclear power in the world. A sizeable portion of America's nuclear stockpile sits in various stages of dis-assembly at Pantex

>>515500585
>thinks they haven’t thought of this Appalachia regularly has ACG (Trumpist) militas spawn. If you’re playing Biden/Harris it’s always an active front.

>>515500781
>>515502174
things are fundamentally different now because of what kind of limpwristed cucks and nigger trash infest cities these days
it depends which direction suburban whites go since in my metro area for example the vast majority of the population is suburbs (which I'm assuming is common but I don't want to speak with authority about something I can't confirm)

>>515506257
meant to have a newline between “this” and “Appalachia”

>>515495604
Yes and they're also more densely populated which is worse for them
>Missile lands in countryside - casualties: 10
>Missile lands in city centre - casualties: 10,000

>>515493071 (OP)
Military is divided. Core infantry enlisted is largely white and right wing, officer cadres are more left leaning and politically centrist, supply/pogue side is largely nonwhite and liberal. Very few outspoken right wing generals due to the political culture of officer cadres. Navy and air force would be firmly Dem faction, Army and Marines would have rumblings but few leaders for a split. Huge swathe of Marines are hispanic(nearly half), even if the white enlisted and officers are the farthest right. In general, the military is too divided at each duty station to cleanly break in a civil conflict. This is made worse by the fact most enlisted are young and primarily concerned with job and college benefits and have no loyalty to what they're doing, especially true for national guard and reserve units. In 2020 you saw a lot of members of the national guard marching with the protestors they were called up to police.

I don't see any of this dissolving without the economy going in the shitter and the military not dishing paychecks for several months. A Great Depression level downturn amidst another 2020 style civil unrest might translate to desertions and the military refusing to step in and standing down. There are a lot of(left-centrist Milley type) generals who'd love to lead a coup, but there's questions over whether they'd maintain combat capable enlisted soldiers with overtly liberal leadership in a conflict.

It wouldn't be like Spain, where there was a military coup attempt in every major state but only about half were successful. There is a complete lack of radical infrastructure in the US, few big far right organizations, leftists have networks but they can't organize beyond CHAZ type takeovers. Military/"deep state" is architecturally built to prevent factionalism.

Most likely would be a complete breakdown of law(circa 2020) with no military involvement until civilian militias fill in the gap and start shooting each other.

>>515506116
Oh great another Israel-lite full of fanatic evangelical retards

>>515502802
texas peacefully joins with trump’s government (ACG) if they hold out against biden for long enough
colorado gets forcibly taken over by trump. denver is brutally repressed and gets turned into the temporary capital

>>515505356
Bolsheviks had close calls several times during the civil war, because they didn't inherit the military organization of the russian army like the other factions. However their industrial base made them win in the end out of sheer attrition, none of the other factions could recover after losing the momentum.
I think it's also fair to point out that the bolsheviks did have rural support, as the farmers were only concerned with the land question and the bolsheviks had the most radical answer. That being said, while this allowed the bolsheviks to quickly take over, the rurals never really had a choice. When the Tambov peasanta rebelled, they were quashed mercilessly

>>515493502
>Lily Yohannes jersey
Liberal

>Joe Burrow jersey
Conservative

I will simply wear the Burrow jersey and evade the blockade. Right wing: defeated.

>>515506261
russia was a top heavy, cut its feeble neck and its your brain in charge
the US is multipolar web an unprecedent civilian armory and even nuclear arsenal

a run for the capital as commies always do would not work
>>515504641
so hmmm i remember podestas 2020 wargame red mirrage

>>515504715
>Sounds like exactly what mossad and Israel wants
It literally is. Civil war = culling the herd. People are so stupid.

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>>515506261
>things are fundamentally different now because of what kind of limpwristed cucks and nigger trash infest cities these days
>it depends which direction suburban whites go since in my metro area for example the vast majority of the population is suburbs (which I'm assuming is common but I don't want to speak with authority about something I can't confirm)
Maybe, maybe not

If you want actual advise, everything is about organisation and work done

You want spreadsheet addicts managing everything. You want the real time strategy autists in charge of the administration. You want workohaulics making 10 thousand phone calls every day, giving instructions, relaying orders, and gathering Intel

You want people who put in the hours and the elbow grease and go door to door to recruit random strangers into your army like Augustus did. He was 19 you have no excuse. He recruited 5000 people to fight and die for him at 19 starting completely alone just going door to door.

You need clear plans
Total Intel and information about what all the factions, domestic and foreign are thinking and doing
You want a general strategy that can work in the worst case scenario
You want to stay alive at all cost, failure or death are not options

You want to minimag every advantage and do grand sweeping psyops at the same time. You want to convince every key person to help you or manipulate them to do things that won’t harm you.

You need military discipline enforced and severe punishments including executions and beatings for anyone who isn’t being productive or fanatically loyal and dedicated to victory. If someone slacks off or doesn’t take things seriously you make an example out of him
If someone is being a depressed defeatist you lynch him

Welcome to war

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>>515506614
see mamdani archetype the left got the mayors and the police

a stand down order and you have bedlam run by antifa

>>515507513
>You need military discipline enforced and severe punishments including executions and beatings for anyone who isn’t being productive or fanatically loyal and dedicated to victory. If someone slacks off or doesn’t take things seriously you make an example out of him
If someone is being a depressed defeatist you lynch him

Cities are full of limp twisted leftist fags and niggers. They lack this capability

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>>515507513
i will be dumbassmaxxing

>>515506614
To reiterate there are several stars that have to align.

>right wing needs to somehow unite around an organization willing to commit violence and have radical rhetorical(most such organizations are fed honeypots, rarely break 200 members)
>left wing needs to unite around a political platform they're willing to fight for(leftists are famously interfactional, Trots vs Stalinists vs Fanonists vs Anarchists ect)
>economy needs to completely crash, leaving huge swathes of the country unemployed
>local social organizations need to grow to replace collapse of government(leftists historically had communes/unions, right wingers may have churches)
>all of this has to beat digital censorship, psyops, and full wrath of portions of government power
>when battle lines are drawn, they have to be at least somewhat equal or else it becomes suicide for one faction to actually fight and shoot(see CHAZ being too small to be truly autonomous or defend itself)
>somehow beat whichever side has heavy military hardware
>no foreign support because of US navy/air force likely performing a continental blockade

The US would basically have to naturally degrade like South Africa and basically force battle lines to be drawn physically, economically, and psychologically amidst a backdrop of national level governmental decay in power projection to defend itself. Possible? Yes. Happening soon? Probably not. South Africa for example has been going through what the US has had for over two decades and it still hasn't boiled over into blatant civil war yet.

>>515493071 (OP)
I'm wondering if a modern day version of the Thirty Years War in Germany would be the way we're heading, just replace Protestants v. Catholics with Liberals v. Conservatives.
Not looking good if so considering the population of Germany dropped 40-50%. Additionally just like that war, there may be foreign interventions, both by America's allies and enemies, for both sides in such a conflict.

>>515507018
>Bolsheviks had close calls several times during the civil war, because they didn't inherit the military organization of the russian army like the other factions.
Again that just exemplifies their skill even better

>However their industrial base made them win in the end out of sheer attrition, none of the other factions could recover after losing the momentum.
Massive skill issue to be in a position where they lost that industrial base and critical military infrastructure in the first place

Retards who didn’t fight to the death to keep these things not realizing their value. If anti fa black block retards want to occupy a factory and you’re guarding it, you fucking fortify your position and hold them up for months, you machine gun them down and make your bullets last, you sabotage the machinery if you think you will run out and be overwhelmed. You stay in communication with people beyond the siege. You don’t fuck around. You lay traps. You show no mercy. Cadia fell before the guard type shit.

It’s not the mindset the Russians had when the war began and that’s what allowed the reds to claim the assets that allowed them to win the war later. Fools.


>I think it's also fair to point out that the bolsheviks did have rural support, as the farmers were only concerned with the land question and the bolsheviks had the most radical answer.
Extremely little, they kept having conflict with Mao because Mao said the farmers should be the backbone of the revolution while the soviet advisors kept telling him "no you stupid chink idiot the INDUSTRIAL WORKERS are the backbone of the revolution, ffs anyone in the NKVD can kill this Mao guy?"
It was a big source of conflict because the soviets were absolutely convinced that only factory workers (city people) could be used as recruits and mattered

> When the Tambov peasanta rebelled, they were quashed mercilessly
By the city people. Not by magic.

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The Troubles is the archetypal conflict you want to look to. Two sides of ideological retards with complete buy-in murdering each other whilst the federal government desperately tries to keep some semblance of order, but eventually gets accused of collaborating with one side or the other. There will be no pitched battles or even clearly delineated 'territories'. The ideological lines will be districts, streets and even buildings. Life will continue as 'normal' but it will be the new normal of checking your car for explosives before work, constant active shooter drills, people just 'disappearing' on the regular. There will be whole swathes of the country where you wouldn't even know anything was going on. And then other parts that will look like an active warzone.

Anyone who understands the current situation knows that the civil war will actually be a completely uncontrolled situation with random acts of violence by numerous factions throughout the country with large amounts of lone wolf attacks who simply seize the moment to act.

There's not gonna be any front lines, you'll just drive somewhere, being followed by car you won't notice. Do your errands and when you come back to your car someone is gonna walk up and shoot you in the parking lot. You won't have any idea why or who it was. They'll do it again if they don't get caught.

>>515507590
event 2029 - the june revolution and the american inquisition
looking back the assassination of charlie kirk, attempts on trump and nick fuentes should have made
obvious what would follow or rather when zohran mamdani at the helm of 1million DSA volunteer took control
of the police force of americas beating financial heart

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>>515508626
>There's not gonna be any front lines
There'll probably be "de jure" frontlines, but de facto im sure its going to be chaotic.

>>515508556
Demographics decides whether or not you and your children will go extinct so people might care more about that than Protestant vs catholic since there is a lot more skin in the game

Especially the few rational percent
In the troubles they had no reason to get involved and didn’t care but that’s not the case now

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>>515508143
I see no limiting principle and no viable off ramps. My gut says no my mind screams that its going to happen.

>>515508254
The initial months of the civil war were total chaos. No one could defend the key sites because the opposing factions basically didn't exist yet. The army had deserted, the units garrisoned in the key cities (that were supposed to defend the industrial base) had all been radicalized over the years and actively fought for the bolsheviks. And like I said, the bolsheviks didn't have an army (they belived officers and orders are too bourgeois), so it was just trainwagons of red guards (self formed militias) fucking around. It wasn't until real opposition had materialized that they realized militias weren't going to cut it and the red army was born. Kudos to Lenin, the ruthless pragmatist. He never let ideology stand in the way of victory, and that's why he won.

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>>515508556
Wasnt the Troubles an ethnic conflict? I dont think a second american civil war will be solely a race war.

>>515493071 (OP)
The Right couldn't even burn down a MSM building or shutdown Reddit. American Civil War is going to be The Right getting hunted down and drafted after a Democrat controlled Republican wins the Presidency in 2028.

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>>515494347
How could a nigger this dumb even get past the captcha?

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>>515493071 (OP)
bump

>>515493071 (OP)
Asymmetric unconventional guerilla shitshow with dozens of factions state, domestic, and foreign. Chinese, Russians, and narcos/terorrists arming all sides and daily glowie mass casualty events. Basically a westernized Somali civil war.

>>515509608
>No one could defend the key sites because the opposing factions basically didn't exist yet.
False
Fallacy
Incompréhension

You own what you can guard and keep away from others. If you’re a factory guard or a cop or a small army squad you keep what you have for yourself and send anyone who wants it packing. If you can take over stuff with your military might you do it. Chaos resolved but you’re in a better situation if you’re sitting on a gun factory when it does than if you’re just in the woods like a wild animal
No matter your side

>The army had deserted,
Because they’re idiots
Remain armed, deadly and organized at all times, from sapience to death

>the units garrisoned in the key cities (that were supposed to defend the industrial base) had all been radicalized over the years and actively fought for the bolsheviks.
Then Russians did a back job at management + internal audit and threat assessement
Always blame the victim. Always the victims fault.

> It wasn't until real opposition had materialized that they realized militias weren't going to cut it and the red army was born. Kudos to Lenin, the ruthless pragmatist. He never let ideology stand in the way of victory, and that's why he won.
He won because he had like 165 IQ while everyone else in the nation was closer to 90

It’s very funny to read his internal communiques between high ranking bolsheviks and compare that to his speeches to crowds and useful idiots

Internally with the other jews he talks like a complete robot, hyper pragmatic and Machiavellian, that’s the real him and it’s what everyone should behave like, it’s clear he doesn’t even view his supporters as humans, he thinks of them like Minecraft mobs and he’s making a mob farm

And then in his speeches, his level of speech drops down to toddler kindergarten level, and he just repeats a few short incoherent sentences over and over again in simplified emotional language with simple narratives

>>515511310
Explain this fantasy to me

>>515493071 (OP)
People disassembling their neighbours with power tools

>>515493502
Came here to post this

>>515493071 (OP)
>What would a second American civil war really look like

like in Nepal two days ago

>>515511825
I dont think thats whats going to happen, you Algerian cousinfucking shitskin. America will break apart like OPs pic

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>>515509578
Cant see it happening till at least the 2050s

>>515511310
Anyways the strategy in this ridiculous scenario would be to rush DC, bomb all enemy airfields and ports, put all resources to retaking the east coast and gaining foreign especially European military support

Leave the Appalachia apes and lake region monkeys behind, harass and raid and destroy on the west coast, annihilate all west coast infrastructure so that even if they can form a proper state structure and independent west coast nation fully under their control, they can’t actually bring their army east logistics wise

Make them fucking walk theoufu the Rocky Mountains under constant ambushes, drone strikes and land mines

That’s how you win this scenario. I don’t think the left would win in this scenario if the right does a proper job actually. And it’s an absurdly biased scenario to begin with where the right is given almost nothing

>>515493502
can't wait

>>515493071 (OP)
our government has no incentive to support the extreme right. there will never be a civil war just a mass execution of white men perpetrated by zogbots

>>515512202
>I dont think thats whats going to happen,
Hard to tell considering your commie meme flag

>>515512294
Read dr karlyn borysenko americas preeminent expert on the revolutionary far left

>>515510180
The right hasn't started to fight, retard

>>515512464
The right doesnt need government support retard

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>>515493071 (OP)
I just know china will win

Btw here's a piece by David Beltz on why civil war is likely in the west in the future
https://www.militarystrategymagazine.com/article/civil-war-comes-to-the-west/

>>515507183
There's dozens of shibboleths that mark you out as a leftist, from how you walk, to what words you use, to your hairstyle.

>>515493071 (OP)
The only way I could see it happening is if Trump stages a coup using ICE and a military purged of dissent. He'd do this to prevent ZOG from being voted out after The Noticing.
The people would not accept that and would organize to fight back, and some militaries (national guard, specific bases etc) under different states would join them. Trump loyalists would migrate east to join his army, rather than try to fight the cities in their states as scattered militias.
The rest of the world would pick sides to support and maybe even assist directly, while some countries would take the opportunity to attack global bases to land grab from the US sphere of influence . It would become the real WW3

>>515493071 (OP)
At this point, it'd be everyone against California.

>>515494347
right wingers work all of your cities and have to commute to the city every day to do it. you really think a bunch of niggers on welfare are the ones propping cities up? it's right wingers

>>515494347
Who grows your food, dumbass?

>>515514029
They'll just eat each other. They're leftists, it's what they do.

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>>515507183
The fact that you're a man dressed as a woman might give the game away, 'Sophie'

>>515513743
>If Trump stages a coup
Holy fuck you mutts are even more retarded than I thought. Trump is literally the physical embodiment of moderate, boomer politics you fucking Mongoloid. This is why a civil war wont start any time soon.

>>515512464
>our government has no incentive to support the extreme right.
Except becoming the strongest nation and most powerful people in world history if they did

You can’t exactly argue far right policies aren’t effective
Total realism, scientific optimization, central planning and meritocratic selection, with 0 tolerance for traitors or anyone rowing to slow down the nation

>>515493071 (OP)
It would be like opening back up state hospitals and holding leftists for observation because they are a danger to themselves and others
Forced treatment if need be
Probably some lobotomies
Lots of meds
#Backtotheward

>>515514029
>Who grows your food, dumbass?
1-2% of the population nowadays
Who live in isolated farms and are going to have a really bad time when 5 trucks containing 40-100 antifa niggers with AR15s roll out, take all your food and do South Africa stuff to your morher's intestines

>>515494013
>their leaders
Lmao
Leftist are going to kill all the good goys and end up in camps lol

>>515493619
20 years ago I told people when it all breaks, the US empire will either go like England, or the USSR. This was before I understood the history of the jew, and their long game of building, then destroying those empires through their money magic spells.

>>515494347
One post coward

>>515494136
Most of the fatties are black or woman
Your not really helping your case
Kek

>>515513743
it will happen 2029 when president rubios federal response team kills emily garcia in new york
a 29 year old DSA member attempting to unarrest an arsonist at an ICE detention site

>>515498790
>ANIT-TRUMP MILITIAS
>ANIT

What did the AI mean by this?

Niggers use it as an opportunity to pull a Katrina level chimpout everywhere

>>515514238
He works for Israel and Israel doesn't want to lose its monopoly on power. Because AIPAC WILL be voted out if democracy is allowed to continue, thanks to Bibi's insane government. Also he basically campaigned on it. "If you vote for me you won't have to vote anymore!" Always acting like he's got a big surprise up his sleeve.
He could do it and all we could say is "well he DID tell us he was going to..."

>>515493789
This, those suckers are already fighting a low intensity civ war.

>>515495604
Bro 75% of the country lives outside cities

>>515514996
>north Dakota fatter than Georgia
Sure, let's blame the niggers kek

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>>515515319
>still believes in DA JOOOOOZ
Can you just do us a favor and KYS?

>>515515319
>AIPAC WILL be voted out if democracy is allowed to continue
Democracy is the jewish party, created and directly funded by jew money. They don't need AIPAC, but some of them take it anyway.

>>515493071 (OP)
Years of Lead.

>>515516300
>Most of the fattest states also have the highest black population
I said woman too tardo
White woman are fat too
Woman and nogs
Lol

>>515493071 (OP)
Yep, exactly like my hoi4 fire rises SLOP game. My favorite outcome would be the super satanists from florida

>>515514029
Mexicans

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>>515493071 (OP)


LIKE THIS:

>>515516687
The people can re-take control of the system. Before the 1960s, Jews were hardly trusted to have any big roles in government. There was only like 1 Jewish cabinet member in any administration before that

>>515498956
>t. non-american retard
You have no idea how our logistics infrastructure is set up if you think cities are where resources come from here. Not only are mines and farms in rural areas, but so are most of the remaining warehouses, factories, truck depots and cargo airports. Not to mention the fact that the employees working these jobs tend to have a very strong rightward lean.

>>515493071 (OP)
It would unfold in stages.
First stage would be scattered paramilitary groups and lone actors engaging in targeted attacks against public figures with limited local political support while the feds try to put a lid on it.
This would look very similar to the Troubles in Ireland.
As a note, this stage would be filled with assassinations and it's very unlikely that any of the current prominent figures on either side that have been staking the flames would survive this stage.
Assuming the feds fail to quash it we move on to stage 2.
Stage 2 is a collapse of the federal government and general breakdown of society.
This would occur once local political groups lose faith in the system and begin outright ignoring the federal government.
Its defacto balkanization.
This would be the most violent phase as it becomes effectively everyone vs everyone as local jurisdictions start acting independently for their own interests.
It would be the total collapse of the rule of law.
Think early stages of the Syrian Civil war.
Stage 2 would be fairly short and once the worst of the chaos passes it would transition to stage 3.
Stage 3 would consist of the consolidation of the disparate factions into new regional governments.
It is likely that many of these new states would remain opposed and continue to fight in a more organized manner.
This stage would look similar to the first civil war.
The whole thing would finally end once the new states manage to come to new peace agreements.
Its possible that one side might actually achieve total victory and manage to reunify the country under their banner, but this is highly unlikely.
In any case, the entire series of events would take decades to unfold.

>>515514029
machines and migrant workers

Grain farmers don't have enough manpower to actually protect their land in a military scenario. More likely most of the food just ends up being imported.

>>515493502
Coastal cities will receive foreign support while inland cities will organize convoys guarded by conscription to secure supply routes.
They may not have resources but they have bodies to throw at problems.
Casualties would be horrific but they dont have any other choice.

>>515517671
Holy shit this

>>515514533
Its funny as fuck how ruralites LARP as 19th century farmers as some kind of gotcha.

>>515496745
Except modern cities transitioned away from manufacturing to service economies.
You would have the theoretical ability to buy guns, but not to make them in significant numbers.

>>515517671
>sperg babble
What stage are we in right now, retard

>>515495604
Yeah that’s actually the achilles heel
Retard
>Be lib faggot
>Live in the chity
>Be one delivery away from complete anarchy
>Literally Catrina but your not able to leave and mis out on the enrichment
>No one’s air dropping sushi and Starbucks
>You get nothing
>Get to see the reality’s of human nature up close and personal
>Be eaten by a Tyron
>The right never fired a shot
Lmao

>>515518272
Presence of civilian manufacturing has had little bearing on military manufacturing capacity, as we've seen from the Ukraine War. Its not 1942, you can't just start making weapons in a Tesla factory like we could in Ford factories in WW2. The equipment, labor is all specialized.

Realistically weapons would be imported from overseas by both sides. Now which side has spent their entire time in power pissing off every foreign country of importance?

>>515518703
I see we're pretending like ruralites are subsistence farmers and aren't just as bound to the modern supply chain as urbanites.

>>515493071 (OP)
It would look a lot like the troubles in ireland but with more violence.

>>515518703
A lot of libshits seem to not understand that the companies that didn't leave the US entirely have shifted their assets to rural areas due to those areas being more business friendly, and having overall lower overhead costs.

>>515499257
>and then the president will okay the launch of several drones armed with hellfire missiles
And the military will then use those unlocked warheads to take out the president.
>military junta
Why have a president when you can have generals?

>>515519032
>muh troubles
Anyone who compares a second civil war to the troubles is a retard. Very different conflicts.

>>515519030

It was bait anon but I agree with you. Basically everyone would be fucked.

>>515518725
silly goose you got weapons

>>515513696
>shibboleths
JEW DETECTED

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Rednecks of the south could win it by themselves. Say what you want about Cletus but he can shoot.

>>515496487
Its called the homestead act of 1862, he's clearly asking why its divided into perfect rectangles.

>>515519030
I think you take for granted that the thin veneer of civility that exists in population centers comes from daily supply of resources from fly over country
It just an obvious strategy to block the supply off and let nature take its course
It’s pretty poetic too
The Middle Ages In Manhattan
Imagine it

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>>515520296
stop acting meschugge you putz

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>>515520756
>can't reply
>don't know any Turkish

>>515520592
NYC is on the coast and Europe would ally with liberals so the right-wing side would have to have a successful naval blockade against the northeastern corridor.

Its difficult to say where the US military stands in this, but Navy it seems would be a strength for the liberals.

>>515519030
How are you going to get out to the hundreds of miles of spread the fuck out flyover country if the roads to you chity are blocked leftoid?
They clearly aren’t sending their best

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>>515493071 (OP)
Red states have all the food. Blue states have all the Jews. It could go either way.

>>515493071 (OP)
I'm seeing a lot of sentiment from both sides (kek, faggots root for your team. Root!) but I really don't think much of anyone or very few have really thought it out. People sound eager for it to happen, but in my experience, Americans don't understand hunger. They haven't experienced it. Just look at them. If civil war happens, people are going to learn very fucking quickly how difficult it is to acquire basic sustenance in a post-grocety store and post-logistical chain world. All these faggots on the internet cheering for us to drive headlong into this conflict.... Well you'd better be prepared and disciplined enough to do all the killing and massacring you want to do on an empty stomach for a long time. You're all about to have a rude awakening on this one, fatso's. I'm mostly talking about "the left" as "the right" has a slightly better chance of being prepared or semi-prepared for this.
>>515493502
Ignorant and delusional. If you're even remotely serious about participating in this possible eventuality, you'd better start being honest with others, but mostly yourself at all times. This means understanding that your cushy life is almost entirely propped up by the labors of those you associate with "the right"
You'll know true hunger because you'll lie about failing till your dying breath.

I really think you dumb fucks don't understand how difficult it is to live in the wild.

>>515519079
Most cities haven’t been able to supply themselves for many decades
ironically it’s one of the ironies of out sourcing and corporatism as most places used to be a lot more self sufficient
Lol

>>515521573
Right wingers living in rural areas doesn't mean they're actually going to hold all the rural areas.

Some 400 population town with a median age of 62 isn't going to be held by right wingers against a liberal invasion just because they voted for Trump 280 votes to 70. Liberals have the advantage of foreign support and most of their population centers being on the coast.

>>515521236
How they gonna blockade NYC when they can basically sail along the coast from Canada? If a ship comes within 100 km of the coast it eats an AShM

>>515493071 (OP)
not like that map you sandnigger

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>>515518703
Lol thought of this. It will be a conjoined civil/race war for obvious reasons. Slowly, at first. But still hahahha. I don't think the lefties that believe niggers are naturally good people are ready for what they're going to do to them in the cities of the stay. You'd literally see niggers conquering entire large cities, but that's fine.

>>515493071 (OP)
>Or the Troubles, a high intensity guerilla war waged by both the left and right?
My money's on this one, loads of groups of ultra-radical nutters basically doing all sorts of domestic terrorism all across the country, probably with a whole bunch of riots and other assorted large-scale civil unrest. The average person is too comfortable to join up to go and die for their favourite political party, and unless the incumbent government manages to be so spectacularly unpopular that massive chunks of the military somehow openly rebel without tearing themselves to pieces in the process nobody apart from the state has the capacity to field a force capable of fighting a true modern war.

>>515515193
Same as the amry of national unity

>>515500781
Only intelligent post in this thread.

>>515505132
The right is made up of young fighting age men, boomers are on the sidelines now

>>515493071 (OP)
Lol. Lmao, even. The fat burgers have had plenty of occasion's to revolt, but they never have. They're not going to do it now over some random fucking propagandist..

>>515493934
>you want vengeance get Destiny, one for one
And then you'll get caught and die of old age in jail. Don't be stupid.

>>515493071 (OP)
>What would a second American civil war really look like?
Nothing because it won't happen. This country would need to be UK-tier GDP before a civil war would even be on the table.

>>515521236
>and Europe would ally with liberals
Europe would be cast into its own struggles for power lol
They are even more resentful of their shitty communist governments over their and your average poor won’t do shit to help you
Are you familiar with the term embargo?
In a civil war scenario leftist power centers will be embargoed from the daily necessities needed to keep it all running
Your roads will be nothing but parking lots
Your critical infrastructure destroyed and crippled
You will be starved and forced to fight for survival with your fellow city fags in one fucking self made apocalyptic prison camp and the “winners” will be shot by death squads month later if there are any
And the best part is you will be fighting the war between yourselves
Lol