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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

► 07th Expansion links: https://rentry.co/07th-exp

Previous thread: >>49869504 →
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>>49916896 (OP)
Me looking at the satorika poster ready to aggressively fuck her in the pussy
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satorika in the new thread!
canon!
>>49917417
Deranged weirdo
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>>49917519
Attention whore, pretend fan birthday skipper.
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>>49917519
lambdarika*
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>>49917529
I endorse the use of this term as it confuses the sotsutard that didn't read Umineko.
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>>49917527
you started posting satorika?
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>>49917531
no the term literally doesnt mean anything so idk why they keep saying it, its still satoko there not lambda, its just really bad cope
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>>49917536
I don't post thumbnails like a fakefan retard.
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>>49918001
pretty sure u just posted satorika but mkay!! u know theres nothing wrong with it right??
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>>49918026
There's plenty wrong with you saving thumbnails though. Stop being so fake.
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>>49918393
>i ran out of arguments
Canon
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Why are they so cute and so canon?
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>>49918461
please explain how they r canon
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>>49917527
Once the underage retard hits 14 he'll get bored of the Yuri edits off tiktok and go plague another fandom
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>>49918461
Rooted in Tatarigoroshi which is core Higurashi.
And their relationship as portrayed is rooted in the themes of humanity and atonement, which is the core message of Higurashi.
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>>49917519
>>49917527
>>49917536
>>49918026
>>49918403
The Kreamp1ed
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>>49918474
Canonically the only love confession in the entire VN :)
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>>49918480
You've grown so wise! I see the power of true love has shown you the light, if Satoko is Miss Higurashi herself then Satokei is the very embodiment of Keiichis and Satoko internal struggle and their triumph over it
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>>49918489
we have talked abt this scene many times before btw!! she wasn't actually confessing her love she was just scared!! context is important

and the higurashi canon isnt just the vn just so you know. seems like satoko and rika confess in the anime too :)
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>>49918506
Still waiting for you to post one scene from the VN that supports Satorika btw :)
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>Satoko confessed her love and let K1 knock her up because she was scared1!1!
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>49918504
Well there was this and that that happened, I won't get into it.
Satokei is Rika approved.
She even taught Satoko to cook so that they could get close.
Even though she might have a fleeting crush on savior types like K1 and Akasaka, the ideal kakera for her would probably have K1 protecting her best friend.
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>>49918517
why do u use the vn as an excuse? the anime is canon too. they are on the same level
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>>49918524
that didnt happen
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>>49918527
>same level
Cope for the illiterate
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stop being fucking stuck in the past using the vn as a bs cope ur just pathetic when u do that
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>>49918525
Rika is a pretty good friend to Satoko and Keiichi, she probably knows best just how close Keiichi and Satoko get in every fragment they spend some time together and knows firsthand just how far Keiichi is willing to go just to protect her. So without a doubt she knows that Satoko would be safest and happiest with K1, it's only natural though that she would have a crush on him too he is the breaker of fate after all!
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>>49918547
rika and satoko clearly have feelings for each other stop deflecting and acting like sotsu and gou arent a thing
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>>49918527
>Story written solely by Ryukishi without any outside influences or shareholders/staff interjecting for max profits =/= a anime literally sponsored and funded by a pachinko company
If you seriously think they're on the same level you need to get your head checked for parasites
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>>49918558
Feel free to post something from the VN that shows Satoko holds romantic feelings towards Rika at anytime Yuritard
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>>49918559
Yet Ryukishi approved of the anime and is clearly going with its narrative
He also was active in its production its much different than Reiwa manga for sure
also look at all the new material being made thats based on sotsu gou like the recent story ryukishi wrote for Watanagashi
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>>49918558
Satoko is clearly just being transformed into Lambda (and Rika a simulacrum of Bern)
Stop deflecting and acting like Umineko isn't a thing.
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>>49918565
Feel free to post something from the vn that has satoko having natural feelings to Keichi (no bridge shit) that are anywhere close to how she was with rika in sotsu and gou
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>>49918568
Yet its very clearly still satoko as the character on screen. ur cope doesnt matter ur just gasping at straws
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>>49918580
>Yet its very clearly still satoko as the character on screen
It's actually not clear at all though...
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>>49918586
Cope more
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>>49918524
Cute and canon.
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>>49918567
>Yet Ryukishi approved of the anime and is clearly going with its narrative
The same way he approved and said he came up with the inital idea of Reiwa and it's concepts before backtracking and blaming square enix and Natsumi Kei.

At the end of the day nothing you have will ever compare to the canon VN written solely by Ryukishi :)
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>>49918595
About what?
Are you seriously even a fan of sotsugou? Did you like, not think about the story at all and clapped at the pretty pictures? Not think about the weird personality changes that the girls undergo? It's all Umineko witch shit.
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>>49918604
Ryukishi is still only credited as supervisor, he has been distancing himself from it ever since
He hasnt been distancing himself from sotsu and gou tho!! so i dont get ur point
>>49918572 Still waiting :)
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>>49918572
>Climatic love confession from Satoko to Keiichi
>Expecting Satoko to ever just tell Keiichi she loves him naturally out of the blue
Secondary retard exposes xirself yet again lmao
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>>49918613
Not really, he's credited as writer (unlike in Meguri).
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>>49918613
What distancing? You're inventing conveniences in your head.
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>>49918613
>He hasnt been distancing himself from sotsu and gou tho!!
>Not a single VN chapter about the events of Gou
LOL!
>Still waiting
Still waiting for you to post that Satorika VN pic btw :)
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>>49918572
>what's 2+2?
>and don't say 4!
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>>49918619
so u have nothing!! amazing :) all that talk about the vn for what exactly? also i wasnt asking for a love confession. just anything satoko says that is anywhere near what she says in sotsu and gou. look at the image here if its too hard for u to understand! >>49918506
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It's crazy to think that Ryukishi canonically wrote that Keiichi came inside Satoko twice
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>>49918624
He is still credited as just supervisor at the end, why are u taking the ones from older releases?? this doesnt change that hes still been distancing himself from it doesnt make it canon regardless, basically deconfirmed
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>>49918640
>so u have nothing
I'll only ever need one cute and canon image to BTFO you :)
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>>49918656
entire sotsu and gou anime btfos you so much ur afraid to even acknowledge it :)
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>>49918640
"I (platonically)* love Rika!"
*gets creampied*

confirmed by the interview*
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>>49918652
Stated as writer rlght in the first chapter, therefore the Kreamp1e was real.
Let it go.
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>>49918663
interview says it can be considered a yuri btw
you really shouldnt bring up the interview here as it actually backs me up
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>>49918662
In SotsuGou SatoRika is debunked though.
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>>49918662
Entire VN chapter written by Ryukishi about Satoko and Keicihi falling in love >>>>>>> rough outline made by a anime studio and director that disliked the VN

Cute and Canon won and ugly and fake lost! :)
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>>49918673
Not canon on the same tier as sotsu and gou are tho. gasping at straws
>>49918682
Cope more
>>49918687
It wasnt a rough outline at all Ryukishi was way more involved in it than Reiwa for example also the interview still says that it was Ryukishi that wanted satoko and rika to be like that. Cope more
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>>49918607
His only experince with the series is tiktok edits of Gou, he has no idea what Satoko is even like
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>>49918678
Sorry that's debunked, interview debunks SatoRika and confirms lack of yuri and romantic feelings.
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>>49918695
>Not canon
>on the same tier as sotsu and gou are tho
Thanks for admitting that Sotsu and Gou aren't canon and are on the same level as Reiwa :)

>Ryukishi was way more involved in it than Reiwa
Except Ryukishi was the confirmed writer for the story and wrote much more than he did for Gou soooo cope more
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>>49918714
No the interview says that their love is past just a simple romantic one however that means that their relationship DOES indeed contain "romantic love" as a result. it isnt that hard to understand!!!
>>49918717
I said it isn't as canon as sotsu and gou are, are u ok in the head?
Also Ryukishi is still going with the Gou narrative to this day and Reiwa was abandoned.
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>>49918738
No matter how much you cope and seethe, nothing you say will ever erase the fact that in canon Satoko confessed her romantic feelings to Keiichi minutes before her death and has only ever shown romantic interest in Keiichi and Keiichi alone within the VN
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>>49918738
I don't know how to tell you this, when she told you she's past you she didn't mean she wants to get romantic with you.
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>>49918759
she literally calls him nii-nii the entire time because she's coping with her actual brother being gone. she's in a state of extreme abuse and thinks her protector is about to murder her, and you think this is the perfect time for a romantic confession??? her saying "i loved you" is her having a breakdown because her hero has literally gone insane. it's not "i'm secretly in love with you" it's "i loved you LIKE FAMILY and trusted you and now this is happening??". you have to be so delusional and jump through so many hoops to see it as romantic. it's literally platonic affection and if you see it as anything else you're just a creep or projecting.

>>49918770
>The feelings between those innocent two...That is to say, a closeness that exceeds gender and romantic love
Ryukishi wanted to show that satoko and rika are SO CLOSE that it's past just being a simple romance and them doing it because "they're just in love". however it still includes the romantic love read what he said.
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>>49918797
Satoko is past Rika. Rika is past Satoko.
There cannot be romantic feelings between those two. Not even yuri.

The ultimate debunking.
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>>49918797
>arguing about the bridge scene
>in 2025
She literally tells Keiichi that she knew he could never be a replacement for her Nii-Nii and that she loved him afterwards. Read the VN already you underage retard
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>>49918823
do i have to dissect it and point towards the things so u understand?
>The genuine feelings of those two... That is to say, to get close in intimacy that exceeds gender and romantic love
here he says that their genuine feelings are BEYOND just simple romantic love. this however also includes romantic love!
>If you were to call intimacy that exceeds gender yuri, then it might be considered yuri
Here he LITERALLY SAYS that it can be considered yuri. what else is there to say? he literally confirms it
>I wanted to portray a relationship that couldn’t be neatly labeled with a phrase like romantic love or yuri.
their relationship can't be neatly labeled as JUST romantic love. again they are way beyond that, but it still includes romance

HOWEVER i have yet to see the source of this interview?? is there even the raw japanese booklet we can take a look at? for all i know this could just be a bad TL and it could be saying something completely different. Source now
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>>49918839
She loved him like family, yes. platonically
Cope more
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>>49918853
Rika is a she anon.
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>>49918845
Something beyond romantic love does not include romantic love.
Indeed there can't be romantic feelings between those two. Impossible really.
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>>49918870
Show raw source of the interview
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>>49918877
Buy the BDs ;)
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>>49918893
What does this prove it even says it goes deeper than romantic love

Also it could still be a bad TL. Invalid until you show the raw source interview
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>>49918489
I know the word she uses is "suki" but for whatever reason the steam translation is "like", why? my first time going through higu keiichi x satoko was my preferred pairing as well
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>>49918901
Something went in deeper and raw but it sure wasn't romantic feelings
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>>49918912
Steam translators knew she only loves him like family (platonically) and didn't want to confuse the reader
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>>49918527
but rika and satoko's relationship in sotsugou isn't romantic, the whole point is they've invested so much in their friendship that neither can accept growing apart. have you never had longterm friendships before, how did you not grasp that?
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>>49918938
...but enough about Rika, Satoshi's platonic substitute.
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>>49918953
look at this image and tell me if these are "just friends" >>49918506
yes, because lovingly looking at each other and holding hands under a shooting star is "just being friends"
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>>49918963
you have never had a friend in your life its impossible for you to grasp the concept hahahahahaha
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I'm convinced most yurifags never had long IRL friendships lmao
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True love...
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>>49918970
So you made promises and held hands with your friend under a shooting star? Are u gay?
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>>49918983
If it was romantic they would've kissed
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Also look at this image and tell me if they act like "just friends" >>49918506
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Renafags got the roof scene, Satokofags got the bridge scene, all yurifags got is two girls shaking hands lmao
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>>49918987
If the bridge scene with keichi was meant to be interpreted as romantic they would have kissed too then
>>49918992
Look at >>49918506 idk what to tell u
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>>49918983
thats what girls are like you retard
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>>49919004
Lesbian girls, true
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>>49918912
It's a mix of it being common practice for trannylators to mostly translate Suki, Daisuki, and simialr to just like for some god awful reason something that's not just a issue in Higurashi but in VN's as a whole and just generally being anti-Satokei by the losers translating it.

But don't worry in Japanese, direct translations, Direct Machine translations, and in older more faithful translations Satoko always has and always will say Love. Also nice to meet you anon I love Satoko x Keiichi as well!
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>>49918995
>If the bridge scene with keichi was meant to be interpreted as romantic they would have kissed too then
As if that was a perfect moment for a kiss, there's obviously a boundary between Rika and Satoko that keeps things strictly platonic idk how you can't see it
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>>49918995
>If the bridge scene with keichi was meant to be interpreted as romantic they would have kissed too then
Why are you guys even responding to this retard?
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>>49919029
then that isn't a good moment for satoko to confess her "secret love" either. she loves keichi like family, platonically
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>>49918972
Yeah. It's just the reverse image of fujoshi.
Literally just ┌(┌ ^o^)┐ crawling around on the floor as trash slurping up the little friendship moments and twisting them in their demented way.
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>>49919039
ah yes "friendship moments": >>49918506
You are just pathetic
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>>49919038
>she loves keichi like family
A husband to be specific.
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>>49919063
Like a brother*
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>>49919063
Cute and Canon!
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>>49919068
Sorry, that spot is taken by Rika >>49918962
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>>49919016
>nothingburger reply
you concede
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>>49919044
Proving my point.
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>>49919025
>Also nice to meet you anon I love Satoko x Keiichi as well!
likewise :^)
I think another important clue hinting at satoko's true feelings is her embarrassment at keiichi seeing her naked. she clearly understands the gravity of physical intimacy and probably wouldn't react the same way if she merely saw him as a surrogate brother.
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>>49919080
Your post was just stupid
>>49919077
Satoko and Rika have feelings for each other, sorry
>>49919083
They r literally saying "I love you" to each other how is that a friendship moment in any way??
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>>49919091
>no u
yawn
you concede
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>>49919091
I admit I thought for a moment since you were talking like a teenage girl you might actually be a woman but if you don't understand why teen girls might say they "love" each other you must be some weird yuributa dude that likes to talk like you're on tumblr circa 2010.
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>>49919106
No but u guys are just ignoring the actual screenshots from the anime which is canon where the 2 characters literally say "i love you" multiple times so theres not much to say. keep being delusional
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>>49919119
Cause everyone but you watched the anime, while you really probably did just watch tiktok shorts or something stupid. Everyone knows what happens next, that false love is expressed through murder and dismemberment and the bored disparagement of life.
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>>49919145
It doesn't end with false love though??
there's also Meguri btw
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>>49919119
>the 2 characters
Wikisister..
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>>49918972
that or they're actual teens who haven't lived long enough to experience growing apart. poorly executed as sotsugou was, I still found the premise relatable because I've seen similar social dynamics play out irl. once you graduate school you might still hang out with close buddies from back then, but over time you become more different from each other as everyone does their own thing. you try to keep up the friendship because that's what you're used to, but it only gets more uncomfortable as the gap widens, negative feelings develop (resentment because they've "changed"), and it might even erupt into a falling out. the solution is to be ok with respecting distances, and not "force" the sort of closeness that once was. that's clearly what sotsugou was going for.
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im just fucking tired bc no matter how hard i try or look it just seems like satorika as a ship isnt meant to be
genuinely with the interview and all and the countless ways to argue with it and the whole witch thing i genuinely lost hope
originally i just liked it because satoko and rika are cute together and i relate to them and i just really really like yuri stories and sotsugou was just that at the start but theres just so many things wrong with it
im in spaces where people including my friends push it really hard and act like its basically canon so i ended up being like that too and i just wanted to share it here but it just doesnt sit right with me anymore now im just lost
literally anywhere outside of here though everyone im around talks about it so i guess its not really deconfirmed if everyone acts like its canon huh
as long as the vast majority of people like it i guess. that makes it canon in my eyes
however i still really dont get satokei because if satorika is a stretch then satokei is 1000x that
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>>49919226
You like it cause it's popular in your friendgroup? You're the most shallow fakefan I've ever seen.

They're not fucking cute together in sotsu. They're cute in original Higurashi that you never bothered to read. They struggle together to live in a cruel world. They cherish the life around them. But in sotsugou Satoko is fuming and jealous. Rika fucking suffers from what Satoko does, she tortures her, she dissects her. You think that's fucking cute you psycho? Rika is pushed to the point of "true" suicide. Satoko pits all their friends against her. She's killed in various brutal ways by the people she trusts. This is all supposedly happening after Matsuribayashi which was supposed to be the miracle that they had won through effort. And then since Ryukishi only gave a barebones outline of a story the shitty writers at Passione filled in the blanks of the ending with "they have a shonen fight then it was all a dream"

You really have rock bottom standards. You are the lowest of the low and don't give a shit about either Rika or Satoko.
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This argument, again? Can you guys please just agree to disagree and move on?
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>>49919743
ok sorry but have u even watched sotsu and gou? dont pretend that theres no cute moments between them in it. u are biased
>hey're cute in original Higurashi that you never bothered to read. They struggle together to live in a cruel world. They cherish the life around them
and this is why they r so cute together too. this is why people like satorika
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>>49919875
He canonically dies of liver cancer in 2002, rip
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>>49919330
Umibros don't have this problem
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>>49919975
Only on watanagashi and meakashi, most likely becoming an alcoholic due to the sadness of the Sonozaki's death
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>>49920398
I guess shotguns can't solve everything...
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>>49920413
Her ass looks so huge here...
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kizuna got hit with a massive ban wave and the majority of the staff were permabanned
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I have Higanbana on my PC right now. Let's fucking go
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>>49920797
The Sonozaki behind is something to be admired
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>>49920797
>>49921275
Receiving a loving Assjob from the Sonozaki princess
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The Sonozaki princess practices a lot for her future husband!
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>>49921475
I would murder the entire village for this
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>>49921475
I wouldn't survive...
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>>49921191
Based
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I have fallen crouch first into a cliff.

The Ushiromiyas, but especially Jessica, must die.
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satorika appreciation! remember that its canon :)
this art is actually so cute
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How do you faggots never get bored of this series? I see the same autists in this thread from many years ago.
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>>49922614
They are cute
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>>49922614
yuyushiki subspecies meeper
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>>49922504
IDK I just love Rika and I love Bern and Higurashi.
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>>49924042
This Rika ain't flat enough
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>>49924072
HANYUU LOOK OUT
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sisters?
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>>49925120
Urghh less clothes please
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>>49925180
I can't resist... this is too much...
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>>49916896 (OP)
We are close to the end of 2025, and the leftovers of the hiatus When They Cry francise still in this mah waifu is better that yours bullshit/overexagerating how "good" is Umineko/being fags.
And Hackysi07 be a fuck, only caring about we a "writter" for the Silent Hill f(lop) game
What "great" 6 years to be a fan of this series at this point...
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>>49921980
Understandable, kill Gohda too
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>>49925266
>And Hackysi07 be a fuck, only caring about we a "writter" for the Silent Hill f(lop) game

I mean, he just wrote a short Higurashi story for a 07th Expansion doujinshi event and if you look at his twitter he's promoting a bunch of Umineko merch, like a music box, due to the theater play. The only thing he ignores is Ciconia.
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Are the console arcs canon, on the sense that they are some of the multiple worlds Rika went through (except for Miotsukushi of course), or they aren't canon at all and just some side stuff?
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>>49926057
The console team had access to some R07 notes we haven't seen (which is probably why the Deen Yakusamashi also has some scenes from Taraimawashi and Tsukiotoshi just using different characters for the roles).

That said, I don't think R07's later writing has ever referenced any of those arcs directly, but you can see some of the ideas used in them slipping through, like the whole classroom joining the club and Keiichi being the leader that you see in GouSotsu first appear in Miotsukushi. On the other hand, they seem to be confident enough they're valid, and R07 won't just somehow invalidate them, because when they thought R07 might just run all over them, you get them giving explicit "this might not be canon" warnings for Kotohogushi, the arc about Hanyuu's backstory, but nothing like that for any of the other content.

Onisarashi (a R07 written manga) also was originally intended to have a bad ending like seen in Someutsushi, the Console VN adaptation, but that got vetoed by the Square Enix editors. The console arc then expands on Onisarashi and give it a bad ending, while creating an "Answer" version, Kageboshi, that flows differently but in the end lead to the manga's good ending and epilogue.
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>>49926057
Are you fucking retarded? Of course they aren't canon they weren't written by Ryukishi and was the brain child of some random japs
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>>49925605
Based as fuck ngl
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>>49925605
>a bunch of Umineko merch, like a music box
Only plays ONE track, and of course, way to expensive for what it is (feels like some stock that he didn´t took of before Umineko was more popular).
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>>49926650
What track does it play anyways?
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>>49926700
worldenddominator
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satorika appreciation!
reminder that satorika is LITERALLY in Meguri
canon! wheres that anon that kept saying meguri ended in friendship
>>49925605
notice how satoko and rika are close even in the recent material and yall say ryukishi doesnt want them canon
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Bernkastel's final red text about Ange never seeing Battler again is the key to all of this. Leaving aside that Battler is physically alive at the end no matter if you pick magic or trick, Ange did see Battler again, and as Battler. Asumu's barren womb is the key to all of this.
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>>49927252
She looks like she'd cuck you without mercy
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why r u all so obsessed with cucking?
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Auau, your dementia is progressing. You already wrote this plot once.
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>>49927278
It's masculine to have the urge to be cucked
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>>49925605
>The only thing he ignores is Ciconia.
Good.
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>>49928103
>Ciconia is the only story not being ruined with trash sequels
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canon!
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>>49927260
Don't be fucking weird Erika
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>>49928291
all for her
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>>49928144
it's hard to make a sequel to something that isn't even made in the first place
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>>49928330
Don't respond to me just cause you can't get attention otherwise, tranny attention whore.
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>>49928422
i literally dont know who u are but kay

did seeing 2 lesbians really trigger u? lol
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>master1200
This guy is so damn stupid

>>49928444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvqVM-xT_SQ [Embed]
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>>49928466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qll3yF6v8OU&t=68s [Embed] give this a watch too :)
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>>49928508
I seriously don't understand. Unless you're trolling which I'm 50/50 on.
You have to view sotsu through a really tiny lens, close your eyes and ears to not understand how the series fucks with them and destroys their relationship.
Like that time you kept posting that manga page of Satoko touching Rika's face when literally the next page she's fucking brutally murdering her.
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You're trying to reduce them to simple accessories to each other in your blind stupidity and refusal to read the source.
That's why I posted the chair scene. Rika in Rei, the original Rika is the kind of girl that would bash Satoko's face in if she looked like she was being piloted by someone she didn't know. Let alone possessed by a witch like she is in Sotsu. That kind of aggressiveness, possibly even selfishness is part of what makes her cool. And the heaps of her own body in that picture, that mountain of suffering was built by all kinds of motivations, but mostly simply wanting to live. It's not cause she's some accessory to Satoko.
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>>49928551
no i seriously dont understand u
because u keep talking about sotsu and gou like its an entire different franchise
i genuinely dont get u all jokes aside. because when i watched it i didnt have the same sentiment u do apparently. they still felt like satoko and rika to me. it still felt like higurashi to me
which is why ur(?) "lambdarika" also confuses me. sure theres witch elements but its not actually lambda on the screen. its still satoko.
i guess our views are just fundamentally different because u cant bring urself to even think of sotsu and gou as part of higurashi apparently. you dont view satoko and rika from sotsugou as being the same characters. and i do.

and the meguri scene. even if she chokes her, are we rly going to pretend like that entire panel isnt meant to be seen in a romantic light? like. genuinely. it was drawn that way. there was a message being sent. regardless of what happened after. she genuinely has rika pinned down and runs her finger over her lips. but its supposed to be friendship?
yes their relationship is toxic and violent at times. that doesnt mean it cant be romantic. its insanely complex and deep. maybe ur the one with the tiny lens here
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>>49927260
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>>49928183
>>>/trash/
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Satokei > Satokrika
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>>49926865
Ryukishi explicitly said that satorika wasn't a romantic relationship, hence why he casually married Satoko to a man in Reiwa.
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>>49928183
The 4 troons of /07/th
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>>49928657
When I try to explain how it's a poorly conceived Umineko prequel, that Satoko is being taken over by an evil entity of obsession
>>49918586
Your only response is "cope more".
Seriously, cope about what? it's happening right there. Featherine is an Umineko character come to transform Satoko into something she is not and should not be.
>yes their relationship is toxic and violent at times. that doesnt mean it cant be romantic. its insanely complex and deep.
It is very not deep. There is nothing deep about jealousy and violence. You go gaga for pretty pictures and you're shallow as a puddle. You want depth in yuri? Look at something like Nanoha. Two episodes of holding hands and bait romance, then dozens upon dozens of pain, torture and torment episodes gets you going, that means you're a damn psycho.
>because u keep talking about sotsu and gou like its an entire different franchise
Because I'm criticizing it? You're so damn shallow you think whether something is "canon or not canon" is the whole depth of criticism you can make of a work.
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>>49928723
>>49928782
Don't be selfish, sharing is caring at the end of the day
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>>49928764
>hence why he casually married Satoko to a man in Reiwa.

We know now Square Enix's editors had been asking him for a story with the club all having children for a decade though.

Yeah, he finally decided to go on with it, and even designed the children, but from the start was saying it was just a specific fragment that turned out like that - which I always thought was weird if he had confidence in the concept and wanted to do that story for a long time like he said in an old interview, but the reveal this whole thing was a Square Enix concept and he was just a supervisor explained it all.
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>>49928810
Girls have their needs ya know!!
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>>49928823
Like dilating?
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>>49928764
still have yet to see the raw source or even any images of the interview booklet! bad TL!
also even if we're going with the interview he still says their relationship is MORE than just romantic. it also includes romance yknow. how many times do i have to say it?
also the children idea wasnt even from ryukishi. hes only credited as supervisor
show source of interview thats not a reddit post!

>>49928792
i dont just like higurashi for the yuri???? i like the series itself i just particularly like satoko and rika as characters and im so glad that they're one of the few canonical pairings. if you ignore all the death in sotsugou they do have cute moments sometimes and the lengths they go for each other is still shocking
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>>49928839
>i just particularly like satoko and rika as characters
Really now
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>>49928839
It doesn't say more than just romantic, it says not romantic >>49918893
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>>49928657
>>49928839
Sisters?
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>>49928850
umm he also says "it goes deeper than romantic love" he also says "then it might be considered yuri" he literally calls it yuri
still waiting for the raw source of the interview btw! not valid until then :)
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>>49928839
>i dont just like higurashi for the yuri?
I'm pretty sure you do because that's all you care about, and I'm thoroughly convinced at this point you haven't even watched sotsugou let alone the original, let alone read anything because of your inability to talk about anything else and your apparent igonrance at basic sotsu events. I'm sure you've only seen clips like from that youtube account you linked.
>if you ignore all the death in sotsugou they do have cute moments sometimes
That's my point! That's what you've been doing the whole time and have the gall to act high and mighty satokeifag let alone anyone else whose actually read the damn story and knows what the characters are all about. You can't just cover your eyes and close your ears to the bulk of the story.
And yes she is just becoming Lambda, who is a witch that is antithetical to Satoko, for the sake of making it an Umi prequel I see you side stepped that point again.
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>>49928860
He outright says it's not yuri, but that you consider it yuri if you cope hard enough. About the romantic thing it's unambiguous, there's no romantic feelings.
About the BD scans they have been posted multiple times on /a/ but they never stopped you from coping so...
>not valid until then :)
You are valid as you are, on the contrary.
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>>49928863
im sorry but do u expect an higurashi story to not have death? is that ur criteria for good yuri? this is higurashi. the point of satorika is that the violence is a part of their relationship
>>49928875
>the scans got posted to /a/ but im not gonna bring them up just trust me
what kind of point is that? show the scans then?
also you just admitted that it can be considered yuri wow
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>>49928889
>what kind of point is that?
The point that you coped at the scans seems as valid as you ro me
>also you just admitted that it can be considered yuri wow
The complete opposite. He said "if you consider friendship to be yuri then it's yuri, but to me it's not", which makes sense since romantic feelings have been debunked.
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>>49928810
sharing my wife shion...
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>>49928889
Nice twisted interpretation of my words because you've run out of things to say but still want to be argumentative. YOU are the one ignoring death and torture, you are ignoring the meaning it should have. Violence was never a part of their tender relationship before Satoko got possessed by a witch of obsession. I encourage you to read Higurashi. And read it to the end, where Ryukishi in his prime had choice words about the meaning that taking a life should have, the importance of having motive. The weight that Keiichi felt when he killed Teppei, or the culprit felt when they originally killed Rika over and over for their own end.
I encourage you to think whether it is actually love or really twisted hatred to maim and kill someone over and over, using their friends and making them go insane, sending them through physical, spiritual and psychological hell and if that is something Satoko would do. Because even fucking Takano would not do that. Nobody would. Only a witch.
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>>49928937
To clarify, by "even Takano wouldn't" I mean to say, I have a hard time seeing her doing it for eternity, out of boredom, if she was given temporal powers.
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>>49928937
It's painfully obvious the underage retard you're talking to has no idea who Satoko is outside of tiktok edits and youtube shorts of Sotsugou. He has no idea who Satoko is and what she's like only the god awful version of her from Gou. He clearly has no interest in anything outside of toxic yuribait and holds no love for the series as a whole
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Oh I just found the picture I really wanted to post on the 21st but couldn't find for some reason.
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>>49928911
no i genuinely dont get what you mean
im not about to go digging in /a/ just to find raw scans which probably arent even there. u brought them up, show them
as far as i know the interview isnt valid as the only source for it is a reddit post. i have yet to see any image of it or any raw source of it. invalid

>>49928937
is the only basis for a romantic relationship a sweet one where nothing happens? this is still a fictional story and higurashi is still supposed to be horror-ish. satoko and rikas relationship is violent sure. does it mean its invalid? no. they still love each other by the end. it might be toxic for a relationship, maybe by ur standards, but its still love.

now that i think about it, its just fucking stupid. this shouldnt even be an argument, because they literally confess their love in the manga lol. >>49922614 as simple as that, you have satoko literally telling rika she loves her. theres nothing to say against this, id love to hear how u somehow try and portray this as platonic when she literally says "i love you". and its not even taken out of context either. sorry
>>49922614 panel, with context, kills your argument
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>>49928987
Of course your only source for anything is reddit posts.
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>>49928987
Muh toxic yuri
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>>49928996
ur source is reddit posts, the interview u like to use is literally from a reddit post. not mine
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I feel bad for satorika fag's future partner because their view of romance is so unrealistic
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>>49929074
>satorikafagsfuturepartner
Perfect except the cut is a little further down.
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>>49928987
i guess this means they're canon :)
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>>49929201
>>49922614 kills you
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>>49929206
Lambda truth breaks your brain
>>49918586
Just read Umineko already.
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>>49929224
satoko is literally telling rika that she loves her how do you manage to cope and argue against this it just makes no sense
are you dense? its quite literally the clearest thing yet its literally satoko saying "i love you rika" are we ok
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>>49929236
You're so afraid of Lambda and witches it's hilarious. Sotsu is sad cause it's a total victory for Lambda and she took over Satoko's brain. And you fell for it cause you didn't know it was a prequel.
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>he fell for it
Cute and canon LAMBDA TAKEOVER AHAHAHA
Not to mention CUTE AND CANON SPINE IN A JAR
Did your clips not mention that bit?
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Have you gone insane
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>>49929269
Don't tell me you actually missed that Satoko is a spine in a jar sequence only watching clips?
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In short Satokei won
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>>49929278
Good!
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>>49929278
look at >>49922614 instead of talking about that
>>49929278
satokei is literally 1000x times less possible than satorika
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>>49929315
>Non-VN trash
Still waiting for that Satorika VN screenshot btw :)
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Mion will stop at nothing to win the Kei-bowl
She WILL win
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>>49929326
Mion will win if she can successfully guilt trip the other girls to let her pity win like she did with Rena in Watanagashi
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>>49929315
Lambda really loves her yeah.
Rika literally didn't say anything in response and meeped though compare that to satokei's love scene it's night and day the passion and meaning behind it.
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>>49929310
the way satoko and rika look at each other is so cute
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>>49929047
It's from the BDs sis, give up the cope
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>>49929324
Feel free to post something from the vn that has satoko naturally saying anything to Keichi (no bridge shit) that are anywhere close to how she was with rika in sotsu and gou >>49922614 >>49918506

>>49929401
still have yet to see the raw source of it though. i have yet to see any images of the booklet or the raw japanese interview. as it stands the only source of it is a reddit post so its invalid until you show the source

>>49929359
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>>49929424
Lambda put a collar on you and dogwalked you. You got tricked by the witch.
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Pfft...
This is why you gotta read all the material and not watch clips.
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>>49929595
ur just saying nonsense because u dont have anything to say against >>49922614
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>>49929424
Stop browsing reddit bro, we are discussing the interviews.
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>>49929641
the source of the interview translation is from reddit
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>>49929630
It makes sense if you're not a troglodyte that can't read.
Evil sotsu Satoko is possessed by an entity known as Lambda, who is also Vier in Cicionia. This witch is obsessed with Bern who she sees in Rika.
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>>49929650
Source: (You)
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>>49929665
the only source for the translated interview on the 07th wiki is a reddit post. bad tl
still waiting for the raw japanese interview btw. invalid until then

>>49929661
and how does this relate to a meguri panel of satoko flat out telling rika she loves her
>>49922614
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>>49929682
Source: (You)
It's a translated version of the BD interview that got posted on /a/, reddit is in your brain.
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>>49929686
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Satokowashi_BD_Interview
literally just scroll down are u ok
if it was posted on /a/ then surely you must have the source too then? wheres the raw interview
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Has anyone got that cap for THAT reaction for Umineko EP3?
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>>49929711
the only times umineko's gotten brought up lately is so someone can complain about uminekofags
all i'm saying
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>>49929701
The reddit translation you linked is not the one I posted, I think reddit fried your brain lol
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>>49929893
how are you sure your translation is accurate then
raw interview source?
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So, do you fags still deny Yasu was a tranny?
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>my tl is accurate because it just is and its definitely not biased at all
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>>49929901
Have you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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>>49929936
>>49922614 starting to sink in?
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Asked an LLM to translate the BD interview. I think suicide might be a good option for the yuritranny at this point.

>Just to confirm, but sir, in the relationship between Satoko and Rika, did you consciously incorporate yuri elements?
Ryukishi07: Haha (laughs). No, I didn’t intend to write it as yuri. If I depicted their relationship as romantic love, no matter what emotions I portrayed, it could all be brushed off with “that’s love” or “they should get married,” and that would wrap everything up. To convey the feeling of wanting to be together but being unable to without masking it with the word “love,” they needed to be two people who couldn’t possibly be in a romantic relationship.
>I see!
Ryukishi07: Of course, I’m not saying that same-sex love is forbidden. For the pure feelings between the two… in other words, to have people empathize with an intimacy that transcends gender or romance, a same-sex relationship was better than an opposite-sex one. If you call intimacy that transcends gender “yuri,” then maybe it is yuri, but for me, I wanted to depict a relationship that couldn’t be summed up with a single word like “love” or “yuri.”
>So, because it’s not romance, you could deepen the portrayal of issues like each other’s ways of living and their places in the world.
Ryukishi07: That’s right. When thinking about the future of two people who’ve lived together like family, I wanted to closely examine the differences in their upbringing and personalities, and in that sense, I felt a same-sex relationship allowed for a deeper exploration.
>Thank you. Finally, could you give a word to those looking forward to “Sotsu”?
Ryukishi07: In “Gou,” Rika was depicted as the protagonist, and furthermore, it showed how Satoko came to oppose Rika. “Sotsu” will depict the same game board but with Satoko as the protagonist. In essence, it’s like flipping the board game upside down and starting play from the other side. Even though it’s the same game board, just changing the perspective makes the view so different—you’ll think that for sure. It will reveal what events were happening behind the scenes in the previous stories, so please look forward to it.
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>>49929941
Is "sink in" another of your reddit references?
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>>49930027
i didnt ask for an llm translation i asked for the raw source??? why are you avoiding that?
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>>49930060
Buy the BD sis, I'm not gonna spoonfeed you.
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>>49930065
how come you can post an llm translation yet you cant post the actual source which you asked the llm to translate?
just say its fake theres no need to do all this
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>>49930069
Why would I? I obviously want you to buy the BDs.
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>>49930077
interview is invalid until you post the source of it i dont know what to tell you
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>>49930080
It's canon material of course it's not "valid".
So far we have three translations:
- the true translation
- the reddit translation
- the LLM translation.
And all of them agree that no romantic love can exist between Satoko and Rika.
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>>49930091
yet you have yet to show the actual source of it? whos to say its actually accurate?
whats stopping you from doing so? pretty obvious
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just say u dont actually have the source and avoid embarassing urself thanks
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>>49930096
My decision to make you pay for the BDs you'll slit your wrists with, next question.
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>>49930105
>i dont have the source of the interview so im gonna pretend to gatekeep it
must be miserable. is this what a single meguri panel did to your entire argument? >>49922614
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absolutely and unarguably canon :)
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why does such a massive fan of this relationship not own the BDs in the first place anyway? kinda cringe if you ask me
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>>49930126
why did you fold from a single manga panel anyway? kinda cringe if you ask me
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>>49930136
who? me? nah that's someone else
i'm a separate dude who keeps coming back to 60 posts on here only to find it's you fags running around in circles again all day, and i find it very funny how for the last few hours your entire argument has been centered around you personally not having the BDs despite how much you jerk the damn thing off
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>>49930142
its mostly them just trying to pull out some dumb shit like "its actually lambda all the time" because they cant handle the manga panel where satoko literally tells rika she loves her as it destroys their entire platonic argument

also um excuse me but who tf is buying higurashi bds? who??
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>>49930148
>who tf is buying higurashi bds? who??
well someone who wants to support the creator of the ship they love so much, to start
if you want more of what you like, you should try supporting it once in a while
maybe then ryukishi wouldn't be too busy taking paychecks from konami to actually work on the shit you like
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Hi friends! Anyone wants a cock/cumtribute? Just send the pic, 07th related or not!
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Do you think sex (coitus) should've been a core aspect of umineko?
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>>49929661
how does everyone just gloss over this?
it's literally a witch character larping as satoko
there's no reason to even discuss gou/sotsu because it's barely connected to og higurashi
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>>49930265
Anon, this is my girlfriend. Do it and my life is yours.
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Was*
...
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>>49930310
you mean cum on a discord screenshot? I'd do it if there was a pic of her desu
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>>49930316
Anon do whatever you want.
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>>49929908
Yasu is the trany. Sayo is the girl.
Here you go.
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>>49930319
what I want is for you to send me a pic of your ex gf
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>>49930328
Fuuuuuck should I do it?
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>>49930330
I'm almost cumming so if you do want it, send quick
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>>49930331
Yeah fuck it.
She's a fucking Paki so I ditched her.
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>>49930340
I'd date her! She looks cute

https://files.catbox.moe/o27ooj.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/zp4qmo.jpg

Didn't cum yet, you sure you want me to spurt on this pic?
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>>49930352
Yeah go ahead lmao.
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>>49930353
https://files.catbox.moe/l903qm.mp4

Here it is! Hope you like it!
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>>49930362
Holy shit lmao what a legend. Thought you were a troll at first.
Back to 07th could you do it to this pic of Erika when you have time? I like how she's in her underwear here, she's just asking for it dressed like that.
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>>49930388
>Thought you were a troll at first.
Nope, I love doing tributes! You can probably find some I've done in the past looking at the jp archives.

I like how the majority of 07th tribs requested for erika lol
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>>49930397
I can see why. She deserves it
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>>49930117
You sure do love the AnomalousSpinalCordSpecimenRika ship! As violent and hate filled and out of character as it is.
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>>49930429
>>49929310
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End of Summer
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>>49930113
A one-sided platonic declaration is a weak argument when there is an interview that exists for the sole purpose of debunking it.
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fucking gay
this thread just keeps getting GAYER
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>>49931674
ENTER
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satorika appreciation
>>49931290
>one-sided
how? rika looks happy
>platonic
she literally said i love you but i guess thats somehow platonic now? how??
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look at her, she's so happy :)
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Now girls brutally murdering other girls to avoid doing homework I can get behind, deranged cum tributes I can get behind, but two girls liking each other ROMANTICALLY?! We're not degenerates here.
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>>49932367
literally everyone in this thread apparently idk why the thought of 2 girls being lesbian scares them so much lol
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>>49932316
lambdarika*
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>>49932641
satoko at >>49922614
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>>49932657
I like yuri but there isn't any romance between them, Satoko and Rika are just friends and when you find a partner irl you will probably see what I'm talking about
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>>49932697
so u like yuri
u watched sotsugou
and u say there is no romance between them? after watching sotsugou?
i think ur the problem here idk what to tell u
unless u watched it blind and deaf ig

also if u like yuri why dont u like satorika?
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>>49932711
It's not that I particularly dislike satorika I just don't see any romance between them, if Rika had romantic feelings for Satoko I think she would've felt way more betrayed after everything Satoko had done to her, to me they look more like 2 close friends having a fight
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>>49932792
GouSotsu Another End which is written by Ryukishi kills you
please read this scene and tell me if its platonic :)
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holy shit reading that again and there is no interpretation other than them being in love with each other this actually kills your entire argument LOL they were literally about to kiss
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Eternal reminder :)
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>>49932910
eternal reminder about satoko platonically telling keichi she loves him like family :)
>>49932805
>>49922614
>>49918506
all kill you
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>>49932916
>>>49932805
>>>49922614
>>>49918506
Awwww they're such good sisters, I wonder if Satoko will make Rika her best maiden for her and Keiichi's wedding!
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>>49932805
other guy left speechless upon the sight of this
completely and utterly and indisputably canon
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So cute...
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>>49932946
And so canon!
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>>49932954
Show me official art of satoko and keichi thats anywhere as romantic as this
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>>49932805
It is platonic though, when Ryukishi writes romance between characters it's way different. This is just more lambdarika stuff, and it's platonic, they didn't even kiss.

You can ship Lambda and Bern as much as you want but Satoko and Rika are just friends and will always be just friends.

>>49932825
But they didn't kiss.
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>>49933105
>Satoko and Rika are just friends and will always be just friends.
please actually read it and look at the image
are you playing dumb on purpose? are u just dense? like thats the most blatant romantic scene ive ever seen how do you see it as platonic genuinely are u ok are u baiting or trolling atp i dont know
no bc its genuinely weird how does someone read this and see it as platonic
still satoko and rika there btw
also i love how ur posting satorika art keep it coming :)
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>>49933114
It's LAMBDARIKA.

And it's not romantic. Compare it to romances in Umineko.

I read the whole thing and it's just like Lambda and Bern going at each other like always, there's nothing romantic about that and their relationship is not gay because they're girls and witches
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>>49933137
>satoko and rika on screen
>"its lambda and bern"
i think ur genuinely just not ok in the head
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>>49933178
Watch the show you retard
>>49929609
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>>49933178
I'm not saying they're literally Lambda and Bern, but the gou/sotsu Satoko is closer to Lambda than to the original Satoko
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>>49933202
it's still satoko
is that too hard for you to understand?
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the current state of /07/:
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>>49933215
Read Umineko
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>>49933215
Does it hurt being so painfully dumb?
>>49933263
He hasn't even watched Sotsu
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>>49933283
Higurashi is such a nice story, it's sad that he/she only likes it because of "satorika"
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>>49933283
ur entire argument is based on deflection i dont really know what to tell u other than just take a break because this amount of cope cant be healthy for u
u have multiple instances of satoko and rika saying they love each other but u keep saying its "platonic" somehow despite them literally saying "i love you". it is quite literally the same thing as satoko turning towards the screen and saying "i am in love with rika" yet u fail to understand that and its sad
just because u dont like sotsugou doesnt mean their interactions are platonic holy cope
u are the type of person to not think something is real until the author themselves comes out and says "yes these characters are romantically in love with each other" and thats sad just read into it ffs
>>49932805
>>49922614
>>49918506
all destroy u and are all a canon love confession but keep deflecting
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>>49933325
This whole time you've been doing the equivalent of a retard yell while covering your ears. You can't really comprehend how Satoko can be possessed by a witch because you don't know the first thing about Higurashi or Umineko. This isn't deflection, but an obvious part of the script. See the picture you're ignoring, watch the scene, comprehend how the feelings aren't Satoko's own but the witch possessing her, obsessed with Bernkastel.
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>>49933771
ok but its still yuri
rika loves her too
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>>49933789
So you admit it's a witch named
>>49929661
Vier AKA
>>49929609
the Anomalous Spinal Cord AKA Lambda

But you don't care as long as it's yuri. It's good as long as my fetish is acheived is what I'm hearing. Is this all some kind of culture war thing for you? If so it's pretty fucking nasty, you could at least do the curtesy of reading the damn source or watching sotsu at all.
You're so dumb for not watching Gou. Rika doesn't care about her at all, leaves her for new friends. It's all bait for the drama hook of jealousy and hate.
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>>49932982
Why is tranny pulling up K1?
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>>49933832
how does someone watch sotsugou and come to the conclusion that rika doesnt care about satoko
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>>49933885
Maybe one day you'll watch it, watch the whole retarded school sequence where they immediately drift apart, the school sequence you take little clips and fanart from, and you'll understand. One day.
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>>49933951
maybe u just like umineko a little bit too much
anyways, canon!
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>>49928144
Umineko
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>I don't think there is a direct connection at that point yet. However, as you can see from the final episode, the course of events between those two may become the roots of what comes later. So, just as Hanyuu and Eua drifted off to another world, Rika's and Satoko's personalities as witches might also drift off to another world and perhaps become characters in another world's story.

Ryukishi interview kills lambdarika cope
satoko is the origin of lambda its not lambda taking control of her
satorika is utterly and undeniably canon :)
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satokos genuine love for rika comes first before anything witch related!
>>49932805
>>49922614
>>49918506
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Learn how to read faggot



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