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[–]aithoughts0 39 points40 points41 points  (17 children)
Did you all hear about the memorial that kept getting destroyed on wplace simply because the reference image was AI art? They even hired an artist to fix the reference, but apparently that's not good enough for anyone.
[–]Square_Radiant 9 points10 points11 points  (10 children)
"We need to protect artist's jobs" say all the people that don't understand that capitalism is a far greater threat to Art than AI ever will be.
[–]CapCap152 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
AI wielded by capitalism is a far greater threat than capitalism by itself.
[–]Card_Belcher_Poster -4 points-3 points-2 points  (9 children)
Neither one is bad, actually.
[–]Square_Radiant 3 points4 points5 points  (8 children)
Culture should not be commodified
[–]Card_Belcher_Poster -2 points-1 points0 points  (7 children)
By that logic artists shouldn't be paid for their work and should only do it as a hobby, not for a living.
[–]Square_Radiant 5 points6 points7 points  (6 children)
Yup - it makes sense once you let go of the notion that you have to be employed to be able to eat and have shelter - you have value beyond your job
[–]Tolopono 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Then why shit on ai art just for “stealing jobs” (even though no one is ever entitled to a job in the first place)
[–]GildedHeresy 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
LMAO so what should people who can't find work do, just die I guess?
What about people who are not able to tolerate a cruel, hyper capitalistic, exploitative world, are they just fucked? Is empathy really that hard?
I bet you you can do it if you try.
[–]Card_Belcher_Poster -3 points-2 points-1 points  (3 children)
So where does the food and shelter come from? Other people? They're not obligated to pay for your house and food, nor should they be.
[–]Square_Radiant 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
It comes from other people at the moment - all of society works to enable the extravagant lifestyles of the affluent who do no work. You oppose supporting artists while defending the system that supports the wealthy. Your landlord didn't build your house, your supermarket didn't grow the food - yet you give them money while they underpay the people that did build and grow. One of the many reasons capitalism is flawed to it's core - you live in a system where you no longer need to work 40+ hours a week
[–]LeThales 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
The supermarket might not have grown the food, yet it did bring work bringing it close to you, it handles some quality checks, takes risks with unsold stocks, etc. It's still a service.
Your argument is also flawed because, what if the landowner is the one who built the house? Is the exploration ok?
The issue really is corruption. Housing situation could be improved by simply allowing people to build more homes/more buildings (+some transport solutions like subway/trains), but instead the housing supply is artificially kept low so owners can benefit from "investing" in houses.
Also, i hate the hate on capitalism. We don't live in a "Capitalism", no one forces politicians to always make choices following capitalism, real life decisions are often based on logic and what is more natural (or benefits some/corruption)
[–]Square_Radiant 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Supermarkets are renowned for punching down producers - sure they perform an important job with logistics, however they have offloaded most of the risk onto the producer, with whom they do not share the profits - they pay shareholders and what have the shareholders done in getting the food from farm to plate?
It is true that capitalism was supposed to have much more checks and balances to keep it in line - but my point is that we ALREADY support an entire class that does no work - we live in an incredibly affluent society and we could use some of that wealth to support the people that live in it.
Especially since art is less linear than other fields - you can do it for 4 hours or 40 and you have no guarantee of having produced anything.
[–]Handoors 8 points9 points10 points  (3 children)
Yeah, AntiAI leople looks like the most cruel group nowadays and many people normalizing it.
Calling to kill should be bannable case
[–]Striking_Split_2230 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
So true, I hate how stupidly cruel society is when they don’t like someone (for the most stupid reasons), I can understand when people say “let’s kill pedophiles” or “let’s kill nazis”, still not very nice, but understandable, but what have people that use AI done to deserve freaking death?
[–]Pizzzapants -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
created ai "art".
[–]Multifruit256 comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points  (0 children)
Looking at the upvote count on this comment
[–]SeanRVAreddit 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I love how this comment is written like NPC rumour dialogue.
[–]AkumasCherriesMagical Girlie 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
They were attacking it because it made other people happy. The AI use wasn't revealed until after it had been defaced multiple times. It is not the exact cause.
[–]Aarond_The_Proto 81 points82 points83 points  (18 children)
REGGIE REGGIE REGGIE REGGIE
[–]Albrecht_Entrati 13 points14 points15 points  (1 child)
Sexo
[–]HFernandoAU 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
I like guys
I… really like guys
[–]SeanStevens 20 points21 points22 points  (3 children)
Fire
[–]Prior_Tax8546 10 points11 points12 points  (2 children)
in the hole
[–]Ae4i 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
🔥👇🕳️
[–]cute_vixen_Julie -1 points0 points1 point  (10 children)
If you wanna say stuff about ai artist, prob don't put a creepy gooner character in it...
[–]SUDDENLY_VIRGIN 0 points1 point2 points  (9 children)
Bad opinion detected
[–]cute_vixen_Julie 0 points1 point2 points  (8 children)
How is it a bad opinion? People aren't gonna side with the people jerking off to rats
[–]Great_Hedgehog 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
It's quite interesting that you're unable to see the difference between a very clearly anthropomorphic and sapient fictional rat-like character and an actual rat. Where do you draw the line if nowhere in the titanic ravine between those two?
[–]cute_vixen_Julie 1 point2 points3 points  (4 children)
Both are gross and I hate everyone who sexualises either.
[–]Great_Hedgehog 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
Not liking anthro characters personally? Perfectly reasonable, it is a matter of taste, after all. Putting people who like specifically fictional, anthropomorphic and sapient characters, which have no examples in real life, and actual zoophiles - in one group? That's just bigotry, and over quite a minor thing at that.
[–]cute_vixen_Julie 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
BIGOTRY 😭 i count being turned on by animal features to be zoophilic, even though furries defend their feral addiction by claiming that it has to be irl for them to be zoos. Litterly banned from 2 subs for saying that it's weird to be turned on by pokemon
[–]trin806 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Hilarious hearing furry criticism coming from cute_vixen_Julie lol. Ashamed of liking anthro foxes and don’t wanna grapple with the feeling?
[–]megado380 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
This is conservative propoganda that you’re spreading btw regardless of how reasonable u think u are
[–]SUDDENLY_VIRGIN 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
AI art is trash and this rat is a hottie.
What's the problem, chud?
[–]cute_vixen_Julie -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
Gross...
[–]Exciting_Car1863 32 points33 points34 points  (3 children)
anyone gonna talk abt this?
[–]ShohaNoDistract 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
This jacked hello kitty is absolutely everywhere
[–]HapyJoypyNcetomeetya 17 points18 points19 points  (1 child)
Hehe penis
[–]I_Heart_Sleeping 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
It’s a cylinder
[–]TyrantOfParadise 30 points31 points32 points  (1 child)
Is this signalis mentioned?
[–]Happy_Description_14 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
The goat herself
[–]Aryan_RG22 9 points10 points11 points  (2 children)
They already got to it lol
[–]ImportantWar7470 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
This is awesome
[–]SonnyvonShark 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Good!
[–]PeachSequence 23 points24 points25 points  (2 children)
This is going to get griefed into saying something truly horrific
[–]LetsDoTheCongna 28 points29 points30 points  (0 children)
Placing my bet rn
[–]Optimal-Shower-2288 24 points25 points26 points  (10 children)
I’m Anti-AI. Stop making the rest of us look bad
[–]TheArhive 3 points4 points5 points  (7 children)
I am Pro-AI
Even I sometimes think these might be psy-ops by unhinged pro-AI people because there is no way people are this unhinged.
[–]Professional-Fig8857 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
I'm indifferent. AI is just a tool and people are so weird about it. You notice that artists seem to be only concerned with money?
[–]inlanefreight 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
IKR they be yappin all day about that
[–]Enverex 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
there is no way people are this unhinged.
Oh they are, I've spoken to people like this, they act like AI art is going to destroy mankind and personally murdered their parents.
[–]TheArhive -4 points-3 points-2 points  (2 children)
I mean individuals, sure.
But enough upvotes to end up on my feed from a sub im not even in?
[–]Card_Belcher_Poster -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
That's just reddit.
[–]Enverex -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
A lot of Reddit seems to hate anything AI related to the point where lots of subs have banned everything AI related, so I'd say so.
[–]SmileDaemon 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Nah, there's too many for it to be coincidence.
[–]JohnV1Ultrakill -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
fym "stop making the rest of us look bad"? "we need to kill ai artist" is a CLEAR joke and is used very frequently. go back to twitter 
[–]USERNAME123_321 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
There's a line, and "jokingly" saying to kill someone or a group crosses that line
[–]Neiker8080 24 points25 points26 points  (0 children)
The irony, when 50% of the stuff there is made by bots
[–]Melyrald 38 points39 points40 points  (32 children)
Ai art is bad, but killing is a little too much even if its a joke honestly.
[–]SmartPotat 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
IF it was a joke it would be funny. However, Reddit needs /s placed in the end of a comment to mark sarcasm, so us fellow redditors can't comprehend jokes and irony
[–]V2_Seeking_revenge 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
A LITTLE? JUST A LITTLE?
[–]Melyrald 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
when im insecure of negative backlash the word "little" does slip sometimes but yeah, its pretty terrible
[–]Dapper_Owl_361 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
why ai art is bad , enlighten me , for sure learning from and not giving credit to the original creator is too bad , but on other side ai is just tool , like a brush or canvas , more advanced though , idk im not into art that much , sorry if i sound rude
[–]Slow_Golf_635 comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points  (25 children)
It's not bad... it's a TOOL.... will you mount a furniture without a screwdriver ? NO ! and that's all...
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    [–]LetsDoTheCongna 5 points6 points7 points  (7 children)
    Last time I checked, the screwdriver doesn't automatically assemble the whole piece of furniture for you with minimal user input.
    [–]Vaughn 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
    I would totally use a tool that did. Sounds wonderful.
    [–][deleted]  (1 child)
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      [–]leonden 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I wish it would! 
      [–]EzdePaz 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I think the better compairasion would the fullfillment from making a homecooked meal compared to microwaving some frozen food. The later isn't you cooking but it's still food.
      [–]Card_Belcher_Poster 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      If it did, how would that be bad?
      [–]USERNAME123_321 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Last time I checked, a camera does automatically capture the environment light and output the final image, ready to be published. Yet photography is considered art. The same thing goes for AI, since creativity lies in the step before taking a photo or generating an image. Also, AI image generation doesn't require minimal user input if done using advanced software. Finally, a more accurate analogy would be a screwdriver assembling a piece of furniture following a detailed list of instructions provided by the user, these instructions can include the composition, lighting, and so on, as far as the user creativity goes. Like the settings provided by a photographer to the camera when taking a picture
      [–]FeraMist 4 points5 points6 points  (6 children)
      AI generated images aren't art. Telling a bot to create something for you doesnt make you an artist, exactly like how commissioning a human artist to paint something for you, doesnt make you an artist either.
      [–]USERNAME123_321 -2 points-1 points0 points  (5 children)
      Prompting is the most basic way of making AI generated pictures. There are much more advanced tools such as ComfyUI, a node-based workflow software, that requires lots of practice and learning
      [–]Pofwoffle 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
      "I had to practice how to scrape the work of countless actual artists in order to pass their effort off as my own. That makes it okay."
      [–]Card_Belcher_Poster -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      The same could be said for conventional art
      [–]USERNAME123_321 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
      By your logic, collage and photography are not art forms cause they involve using artworks made by others (e.g. taking photos of architecture)
      [–]Evil_News 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
      Okay only people who haven't actually practicing or learning any skill could say this...
      [–]USERNAME123_321 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      I am not talking about myself, in fact I am not even remotely an artist and have no intention of becoming one. I am talking about a tool that requires practice, and since I use it only in my spare time I do not have enough time to learn it professionally. I still have a lot of things to learn, which evolve so quickly that my previous knowledge is obsolete in a short time.
      [–]roostrspurs 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
      assembling furniture doesn’t make you a carpenter, generating slop doesn’t make you an artist
      [–]USERNAME123_321 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Even though I'm pro AI, I still agree with you. However, using AI to generate images doesn't necessarily imply generating slop, though it often does. If I scribble on a piece of paper, it's not art. That doesn't mean the pencil is bad, just that it was misused as any other tool can be.
      Online image generation services, such as OpenAI DALL-E, usually involve a simple text field where the user writes a prompt and gets an image back. There's not much control over the process and little to no creativity. It's like calling myself a professional photographer while using a cheap smartphone that gives no control over photo settings.
      My point is that there are more complex software tools that give the user much more control over every step of the AI image generation process, even allowing experimentation with novel techniques. These are like professional cameras that give full control over the final image.
      Also, people can use AI tools to post-process images made by traditional means, such as denoising dark photos or increasing the resolution of an out-of-focus picture (things that would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to do with traditional methods).
      By the way, photography wasn't considered art in the past. In fact, many people were against it because it was considered a mechanical process. Over the years, it became a more mature technology and was accepted by the art community.
      Both photography and AI follow a similar process:
      creativity (like choosing composition or camera settings) -> black box (camera or AI model) -> output image.
      The creativity lies in the step before taking the photo or generating the image. The tool doesn't make art. The artist does.
      [–]43Carats 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      0 Logic
      [–]nothingworthnothingrather be a rat than a fascist 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      my screwdriver doesn't steal other builders screws
      [–]cute_vixen_Julie 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      "screwdriver, assemble blue retro soft fibre lounge with foot rest"
      [–]Pofwoffle 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Except this "screwdriver" goes out and steals screws from everyone else's furniture in order to put together a sofa with seven legs and no cushions. Then it sets fire to an acre of rainforest just for fun.
      [–]ImpressivePoop1984 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      But what the joke is that there are no AI artists
      [–]Black_Sig-SWP2000Dotpict advocate 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
      Hi clippy
      [–]YesterdayPale3396[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I didn't notice 😂
      [–]Typhrenn5149 19 points20 points21 points  (9 children)
      Crazy that this crap is allowed
      [–]rabidgayweaseal 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      I’ve seen way worse wplace is completely unregulated
      [–]Vaughn 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
      It's... literally not.
      [–]plebbit_echo_chamber 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Yet the post is still up.
      [–]Slow_Golf_635 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      totally
      [–]Cylian91460 comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points  (4 children)
      Why wouldn't this be allowed?
      [–]Typhrenn5149 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
      Call to violence should be allowed?
      [–]V2_Seeking_revenge 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
      Hate speech and inciting murder against people with different ideologies?
      [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
      my clanka being an ai artist isn't an ideology 
      [–]V2_Seeking_revenge 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I mean, people defending AI is a ideology, anti-AI is also an ideology
      [–]AllinolIsSafe 14 points15 points16 points  (0 children)
      "Everybody i don't like should just die!!!!11111" no that's cringe
      [–]Nikilite_official 14 points15 points16 points  (5 children)
      not funny
      [–]OkBeyond6766 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      Bohoo
      [–]JohnV1Ultrakill -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
      clankerfucker 
      [–]Lucas_Xavier0201 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      Lots of maturity
      [–]Lorddanielgudy -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
      True. It's amazing
      [–]WeirdWashingMachine 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      So you’re advocating for murder of innocent people ?
      [–]ConstantVegetable49 17 points18 points19 points  (0 children)
      there is no reason to take anyone who says "we need to kill x" seriously even if they talking about a valid point. On top of that, calling AI generated images "AI art" is diminishing your own argument.
      [–]Chirok9 14 points15 points16 points  (5 children)
      This is pathetic. Like A.I. artists or not. Inciting hate/violence against any person is abhorrent and should be condemned.
      A.I. artists are still people. Regardless if you agree with them or not. Those are people.
      Even as a "joke". It is abhorrent.
      [–]Human_Cell3090 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
      There is no such thing as “A.I Artist” as Brandon Sanderson said you are more of an art director to a machine. The machine is doing the art, the human is typing a prompt
      [–]Chirok9 -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
      I think most artists are aware at this point of how Generative A.I. works and can be used. Is there any other point to your statement?
      Like I said, it doesn't matter how you feel about A.I. artists. My point isn't about what they are or aren't. My point is that it is unacceptable to encourage violence and/or death on any individual. Even if you don't like them.
      [–]Human_Cell3090 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      No other point, just a reminder that the artist is the machine and not the human. So we should all collectively stop calling them “artists”
      [–]Slow_Golf_635 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      The first very one that does deserves a like. You're right.
      [–]Lucas_Xavier0201 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
      This is simply not funny
      [–]JohnV1Ultrakill -4 points-3 points-2 points  (0 children)
      boowomp
      [–]ostapenkoed2007 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      there is no AI art. there are AI generated images. prompt can be creative but the generated image is not art.
      [–]PirateKernel 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
      nah the death threats are too much. even if they're AI bros
      [–]Pofwoffle -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      It's okay though: there's no such thing as an "AI artist" so nobody's actually being threatened.
      [–]BlannyBoo95 29 points30 points31 points  (46 children)
      Not a funny joke when it is extremist. Plus, sick people in the world won't see it as a joke, and some crazy dude might really do it, commiting murder.
      [–]ee_di_tor 9 points10 points11 points  (3 children)
      I agree.
      The more you say something - the more you believe in it.
      The more you believe in it - the more you reshape yourself to fit more to this.
      [–]Ok-Bandicoot-9023 9 points10 points11 points  (2 children)
      Imma start to repeat to myself that I'm free, wealthy and beautiful.
      [–]tavuk_05 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      You can just change your style of living to fit all these you know.
      Only problem is wealth but even that can come with confidence on public space
      [–]nothingworthnothingrather be a rat than a fascist 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      chaos magick is when i say to kill ai bros and people do it?
      [–]my_room_is_a_tip 5 points6 points7 points  (14 children)
      Honestly pro AI people don't deserve to be this dehumanised
      [–]BlannyBoo95 9 points10 points11 points  (3 children)
      NOONE in the fucking earth deserve to be dehumanised, period.
      [–]Card_Belcher_Poster 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
      Yeah I don't know why it's so hard for people on reddit to understand this. Literally no one on the planet should be dehumanised like this, no matter what their ideologies are. Because not only are many ideologies subjective, but you can also just label people who you disagree with as the "deserving of death" ideology and justify killing them.
      [–]BlannyBoo95 -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
      Anti-AI people are crazy, like every Antis. Same happens against people who likes Lolis and such.
      [–]Card_Belcher_Poster 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Not literally.
      [–]SamFMorgan 1 point2 points3 points  (7 children)
      They don't really deserve to be dehumanized at all. We shouldn't dehumanize people just because they believe I'm something different.
      But this is a bit of overreacting, the op imagine is just a meme
      [–]Vaughn 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      The image is a meme. OP saying he agrees makes it different.
      [–]tavuk_05 4 points5 points6 points  (4 children)
      A meme that provokes harm. Its equal to saying "kill all right wing", sure a meme but the messege can can easily be taken seriously by a lunatic.
      [–]SamFMorgan -3 points-2 points-1 points  (3 children)
      I get what you're trying to say, but if a meme is all it takes for a lunatic to go crazy, the meme sure ain't the problem.
      Well, as long the jokes are portrait as jokes, I guess
      [–]tavuk_05 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
      Still, the jokes only thing is "harm this group" and it doesnt land anything as foe humor. It has no positive impact
      [–]Beneficial-Gap6974 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Because it's not a joke. They hate that group, and they say this about the group. It’s not serious, but the hate is serious. Which is how you get violence.
      I dislike how much AI is being used, but it's not the fault of the users, it's the fault of the developers.
      [–]Beneficial-Gap6974 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      I can't think of another 'meme' like this that is defended so passionately. Anything else saying 'kill all x' would rightfully be scorned.
      Also, hate the people making the AI, not the people using it. It's similar to how we should hate drug dealers, not the people addicted to drugs.
      [–]milkdrinker0525 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      we should kill <insert a group of people i don't like>
      such a funny meme , hahaaaaaaaaa
      [–]Slow_Golf_635 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (1 child)
      Totally right... it's time for you guys to stop discriminating AI users. It's a "tool" not a human...
      [–]Ottershop 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      I agree. AI users are total tools.
      [–]BlannyBoo95 -5 points-4 points-3 points  (2 children)
      me getting 13 upvotes, and you -2 ... yeah, people seems giving shits
      [–]Slow_Golf_635 -4 points-3 points-2 points  (1 child)
      It's why i have two accounts... one for talking shit and one for leeching everyone...
      [–]BlannyBoo95 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
      -2
      [–]Rabidsu -4 points-3 points-2 points  (21 children)
      Better stop using AI then ,just to be sure ;)
      [–]Ae4i 1 point2 points3 points  (20 children)
      And then you'll get killed first because something you drew looked weird
      [–]Rabidsu -4 points-3 points-2 points  (19 children)
      Nah, nothing I draw can be confused with AI, I have my own style ,my drawings have soul
      [–]Ae4i 0 points1 point2 points  (17 children)
      Until it copies your style good enough and now you're not unique at all bruh. If it didn't already lol.
      [–]Rabidsu 0 points1 point2 points  (13 children)
      Then all the braindead people using AI should stop ♡ there is nothing good that can come from AI, people become lazier, they ask robots to do stuff they should do themselves ,there will never be any situation in which AI will be a good thing, even with styff like games and certain sites ,people get banned for nothing because AI mistakenly thought they should be banned, my little 9yo sister for example got banned on roblox a few months ago(I saw it happening) because someone told her to say yes a bunch of times in a row and she did it not knowing what it would do, and somehow the roblox AI banned her for a week for the reason of misconduct and spamming, saying yes 6-7 times in a row should be a mute at most and if a human saw that chat log they would see that someone else is trying to get people banned and ban the right person, and there's situations like this everywhere. ,companies sell AI coloring books Jazza made a video yesterday about this, they make money with AI made slop instead of paying artists for the drawings
      [–]Toxic_toxicer 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
      Dont argue with those idiots, they never gave a shit about art and would probably cry saying they are oppressed when you dont agree with them
      [–]Rabidsu 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      I'm not ,I gave up trying to reason with them, I just started replying with meme gifs :))
      [–]Beneficial-Gap6974 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      You need to learn the difference between disliking what someone is doing, which I also dislike, and wishing death on others. One is perfectly acceptable, and the other makes you a monster. No other 'meme' is wishing death on another. Any other like it will rightfully be called out for being scummy. Because if you hate someone, and you say you want them to die, that is not a joke. If can ONLY be a joke if you DON'T hate the group you are saying should die.
      [–]Ae4i -2 points-1 points0 points  (9 children)
      You sound exactly like the type who'd say "phones/computers bad!" 20 years ago.
      [–]Rabidsu 3 points4 points5 points  (8 children)
      You sound exactly like the type that has 0 creativity so doesn't mind AI slop
      [–]Ae4i 0 points1 point2 points  (7 children)
      Where's your "ImAGinAtIoN" then‽
      [–]Rabidsu 2 points3 points4 points  (6 children)
      [–]Ae4i 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
      That's no imagination, you just typed "imagination" and picked literally the first result.
      [–]WelderBubbly5131 -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
      Wow, literally stealing content from Stephen Hillenburg without crediting him. Where's the effort? Should've made your own GIF from scratch, if you were so protective of others' artworks.
      [–]Toxic_toxicer -4 points-3 points-2 points  (2 children)
      Welp at least ai could write better my hero academia fan fiction than you :)
      [–]hazel_typh 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Go on, do it then. Have ai make a my hero acadamia fic. And post ot on ao3. Unedited. (Well, aside from tagging, but that's not something Ai can do anyway)
      [–]Ae4i -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
      Not like I want to write anything in the first place. If it's good enough to read, then it's good enough to read, no ifs
      [–]Inside_Beginning_163 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
      Sure......
      [–]goofytron6000 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
      redditors are so insufferable
      [–]AMREX0 7 points8 points9 points  (21 children)
      [–]HapyJoypyNcetomeetya 0 points1 point2 points  (18 children)
      The endless cycle of violence in a world where all beings are gonna die anyways
      [–]AMREX0 0 points1 point2 points  (17 children)
      I want to sleep btw
      [–]HapyJoypyNcetomeetya 0 points1 point2 points  (14 children)
      Me? Smbau? Who do you think is the dominant one talking here?
      [–]HapyJoypyNcetomeetya 0 points1 point2 points  (12 children)
      Struggle all you want this is how were gonna be on bed tonight 😈
      [–]AMREX0 0 points1 point2 points  (11 children)
      What do you want vro 😭🥀??
      [–]HapyJoypyNcetomeetya 0 points1 point2 points  (10 children)
      I want you. Stripped, weak, tied up by ropes, leaking and moaning. Then, i will touch you.
      [–]Slow_Golf_635 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      [ Removed by Reddit ]
      [–]SonnyvonShark 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
      How about just ignore them, or do something that doesn't require the call for violence and threaten people's lives...
      Edit: I see some downvotes. I am disappointed in humanity. People just want to kill other people when they do something they don't like. I see. Hope nuclear war will wipe us out.
      [–]JohnV1Ultrakill -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
      go back to twitter if a clearly ironic and frequently used meme is a genuine call to violence for you
      [–]Accurate_Guest1285 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
      Are replikas ai? Is she racist against her gf? /s
      [–]Slow_Golf_635 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Totally right... replikas and every art were already remade and redrawn... piking AI is completeley useless and those that talk about it just might die.... they don't deserve to be alive to continue their propaganda.
      [–]ReBarbaro805 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
      well, Ariane was really detached with Elster at the start, I don't remember exactly but maybe she even hated her to a certain degree
      [–]Own-Two-247 10 points11 points12 points  (79 children)
      I'm still waiting for a single valid argument against AI
      [–]M62_26M 16 points17 points18 points  (2 children)
      I dont like it so it must not exist
      [–]Own-Two-247 -5 points-4 points-3 points  (1 child)
      Basically most of the ai haters
      [–]M62_26M 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      I actually dont like generative ai either so
      [–]kylleo 13 points14 points15 points  (13 children)
      it is taking jobs away from so many real artists, it scrapes peoples art without their knowledge or consent,
      there are also people fucking commisioning ai art, also here is the definition
      Human creative skill and imagination, HUMAN
      [–]WelderBubbly5131 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
      it scrapes peoples art without their knowledge or consent
      It's a real issue, and those models/companies must be boycotted (I myself haven't touched any closed-source ai model for about a year now), but that doesn't mean all AI art/artists must be 'killed' or dehumanized.
      Human creative skill and imagination, HUMAN
      Yes, only a human can prompt, or, in some more complex setups do more than that. (controlnet/prompt+lora/Layered prompting, comfyUI, Automatic1111, etc).
      I haven't seen an AI tool do stuff by itself before. AI art is still human skill and imagination.
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        [–]Tolopono 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Dog, all of wplace is recreating copyrighted characters without permission from the ip owners and now you wanna preach about infringement?
        [–]Informal_Mind_7840 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Those clankers dont get to take jobs away
        [–]Own-Two-247 -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
        it is taking jobs away from so many real artists, it scrapes peoples art without their knowledge or consent,
        Just like humans do? Humans also look at different pieces of art and copy it when making their own art whether they realize it or not
        [–]Slow_Golf_635 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        So true ! you deserve a lot of like jusst for your answer
        [–]Inside_Beginning_163 -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
        You need skills in IA to make good IA uses
        [–]Slow_Golf_635 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        True
        [–]Slow_Golf_635 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        Those f*king artists needs to learn how to uses it instead of discriminating it... that's all..
        [–]nothingworthnothingrather be a rat than a fascist 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
        it's destroying the environment and stealing people's art. also it's stealing jobs from the people who made the art the ai steals in the first place.
        [–]Tolopono 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        And no one is entitled to a job just like how you arent obligated to pay me to respond to your comments. Jobs are given if work needs to be done. If the work isnt needed, then the job doesn’t exist. It was never yours in the first place.
        [–]Maxwellxoxo_ 6 points7 points8 points  (3 children)
        AI art does not have emotion, thought or creativity — it's created by a hallucinating computer. Arguably, you could also say it steals from artists, though I don't believe that is true explicitly
        [–]Slow_Golf_635 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Yes they have emotions if you modify it by yourself !
        [–]Informal_Mind_7840 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        They literally steal from other art
        [–]OrdinaryExi 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        It steals from artists who don’t consent to their art being used in training models, and has horrible effects on the environment. If AI ONLY took from consenting artists and wasn’t using a shit ton of energy, I’d honestly be fine with it even if I still wouldn’t necessarily like it.
        [–]Tolopono 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Just like how all those copyrighted characters on wplace should be taken down if they didnt get permission from the ip owners right?
        [–]Ittousei 4 points5 points6 points  (6 children)
        It uses an utterly absurd amount of energy and water. And when the result is "art," it is just being used for entertainment, which is in no way required for us to survive
        If you A: lower the energy costs significantly or B: used it towards useful research for the good of mankind then you could justify it. But in its current state, generating silly images and prompts with it is horribly wasteful for no reason.
        On top of that, AI is making people worse at reading and writing, because they are relying on Chat GPT to proofread and summarize for them.
        I haven't even gotten to the part where AI has hallucinated incorrect and even dangerous information, that people have taken as fact because the AI is really good at sounding convincing. Corporations have complete control over their models, and at this point I do not trust them to fix their models for the benefit of the common good. Billionaires only care about their own pockets, after all.
        But you probably don't care about any of that.
        [–]WelderBubbly5131 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
        Nope. AI is NOT using an 'absurd' amount of energy and water.
        According to Goldman Sachs
        As of 2023, AI accounts for around 14% of data center power demand globally.
        So, if you use:
        1) Streaming services
        2) Social media apps/sites
        3) Email services,
        You shouldn't be one to cry over AI power usage, cuz all of the above put together make up more than 85% of datacenter emissions. You also don't really need streaming services and social media to survive, but use it. So imo, you shouldn't be one to lecture others over it.
        Also, I can assure you, I've seen some awesome AI generated art, so there's no need to put art in quotes as if it's a blight in the name of art.
        On top of that, AI is making people worse at reading and writing, because they are relying on Chat GPT to proofread and summarize for them.
        That isn't an AI specific issue at all, it's a negligent education issue. In fact, reading and understanding sentences from chatgpt has improved my ability to summarize stuff myself, despite having english as my third language.
        I haven't even gotten to the part where AI has hallucinated incorrect and even dangerous information, that people have taken as fact because the AI is really good at sounding convincing.
        Again, that's a people problem, people have been known to do the same ever since the dawn of the internet. If anything, there's a larger chance of AI compiling info, which someone would've blindly followed, and providing an explanatory warning with it. It has, on more than one occasion saved my pc while switching OSes, because nerds on reddit prefer belittling newbies, rather than guide them, even on subreddits like linuxfornoobs.
        Corporations have complete control over their models, and at this point I do not trust them to fix their models for the benefit of the common good.
        They do fix their models REGULARLY. OpenAI does this every few weeks to months. While companies might not have an altruistic reason to do so, not doing so costs them more than doing so. Case in point: Google lost the AI race and millions in funding/stocks when a hastily put together Gemini lost to OpenAI's models.
        [–]DataPhreak 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        Imagine giving a well sourced argument to someone who isn't even going to read it.
        [–]WelderBubbly5131 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I just happened to have some free time, and something about that comment ticked me off haha.
        [–]Inside_Beginning_163 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You mean like internet?
        [–]Slow_Golf_635 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Before AI there is another issue man... Internet consumption for computers and smartphones, datacenters for clouds, pfffttt... AI is way, wayyyyyyyyyyyy below all of that...
        [–]Tuetoburger -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        When a lot of people use it, it does. When only one person uses it, no. We damage the environment in many more ways. Hell, actual art might even be more damaging than ai art.
        The Mona Lisa is a famous piece of artwork. Let's use something like that as our control. Quite a few people will generate ai images incorporating this painting, so it's pretty realistic.
        Someone looking to recreate the Mona Lisa would have to use paints, lighting, paintbrushes, a canvas, etc. Each of those emits carbon in the making of it. I'm no scientist, so I'll just ask ai how much carbon it emits. I'll ask Chat GPT-5 and Gemini to have accurate results too. The results varied wildly, with Chat GPT saying 2.1 kg and Gemini saying 30 kg of carbon emissions, but both agreed that ai prompting emitted much less carbon, around 2 grams per image)
        So, the environmental argument weirdly backfires horribly and pushes us to use sources with much less carbon footprint, ie ai.
        I mean, humans use much more carbon to make their own art. And if you say entertainment is unnecessary, than I guess they should be too.
        For making people worse at writing, I will admit it is. I mean, it's the kids fault for using ai /jk. Honestly, that is a problem.
        For hallucination, yeah that also is a problem. Although ai is getting better and better, it has regurgitated incorrect information, as I have seen firsthand. Regulation is the best solution.
        Yes, I do very much care.
        [–]lenya200o 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
        AI steals all data from people, make terrible "art", reqiure no skill to use so it makes actual artist seem useless. Greedy companies replace their artists with AI and their ads become really horrible looking because AI sucksat doing something actually good
        [–]Tolopono 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Just like how artists are stealing copyrighted characters and plastering them on wplace without permission from the ip owners
        [–]Boring-Ad4977 2 points3 points4 points  (4 children)
        Like stealing artists' works as training data and doesn't pay them a dime?
        [–]Own-Two-247 5 points6 points7 points  (3 children)
        Humans don't pay a dime when they get inspired by art. What's your point?
        [–]Boring-Ad4977 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
        My point is corporation collecting data without consent. Artist put up art with copyright for human to see not to be collected and sold.
        [–]Tolopono 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You consented when you agreed to the websites TOS
        [–]Ottershop -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
        Did all the nonconsensual AI-generated porn give you the impression that many AI bros really understand consent?
        [–]Niobium_Sage 1 point2 points3 points  (15 children)
        NSFW artists are upset that they can’t overcharge gooners for naughty pics of their favorite fictional character anymore since just about anyone can create better and more varied content with LLMs.
        [–]BeamAttackGuy 4 points5 points6 points  (12 children)
        Gee i wonder why theyd be upset about losing their livelihood
        [–]Niobium_Sage comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points  (11 children)
        They should consider getting a real job instead of edging vicariously.
        [–]FeraMist 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
        So would you say that musicians dont have a "real job", because they create and perform for a living?
        Creative arts is a real job, just because you dont have the talent to do it doesnt mean no one should.
        [–]Niobium_Sage -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
        I don’t think that musicians need to worry about LLMs usurping their livelihood anytime soon. Plenty of luddites feared the internet when it was the next big thing too and look at where we are now. A decade from now AI integration will be the norm to all but a few cavemen unwilling to adjust.
        The caveat of my whole argument is that people shouldn’t call for the death of others lol
        [–]BeamAttackGuy 4 points5 points6 points  (8 children)
        art is a real job
        [–]Own-Two-247 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
        Art is art. It's something that you do for yourself, not for money
        [–]BeamAttackGuy 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
        Is turning your passion into your career not the ideal?
        [–]WelderBubbly5131 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
        It is ideal, but threatening violence over it, when someone does it better/faster is not a way to behave.
        P.S: Yes, I know AI doesn't make top tier art. I agree AI generated slop exists, but that doesn't mean there's no well made/put together AI generated art.
        [–]fiears 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Art is everything. We wouldnt have anything without some form of art.
        Art is used for making logos, designing products, making architecture, making tools, making games, making movies, making special effects, making toys, ect. Basically everything we use every day used art in some part of its design!
        Art isnt just something we do for ourselves, its a job as well!
        [–]OrdinaryExi 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Tell that to every underpaid animator
        [–]Niobium_Sage -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
        But this is the equivalent of asking someone to subscribe to their $20 a month OnlyFans when the internet is already overflowing with free porn.
        [–]BeamAttackGuy 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
        yes that is why custom commissions exist???
        [–]tyrerk 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        This is it, they were making bank.
        Add that to the fact that their base is mostly terminally online people on the spectrum and you have a shitstorm brewing
        [–]Niobium_Sage 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Someone who gets it lmao
        I’m not saying that AI can just outdo humans in the art department—I still think that human art is more powerful than something generated could ever be. That said, NSFW artists that charge money for commissions and such knew that they had gooners in their pocket, even though the internet is dominated by porn galore. Now that any layman can ask an LLM to generate an image of their favorite character’s bobs and vagene, these people are out of jobs and to vent their frustration they hate on LLM’s in all forms.
        [–]YesterdayPale3396[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (10 children)
        AI in art just copies it dont create has no human soul kills creativity can be biased messes with jobs and culture
        [–]Own-Two-247 1 point2 points3 points  (5 children)
        Maybe I'm a minority, but when I look at an art piece I don't wonder about the emotions and just enjoy the art. AI doesn't kill creativity, it makes it more available. Not everyone can draw, but everyone can easily make a beautiful image with ai
        [–]Ottershop 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
        No it doesn't. Prompting an image with AI isn't any more creative than finding one on Google. AI art steals people's work, and robs its users of their own creative voice.
        [–]Enverex -3 points-2 points-1 points  (1 child)
        and robs its users of their own creative voice
        It's users are using AS their voice, it IS their voice. You're the one trying to rob people of their expression here.
        [–]Ottershop 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Paying a monthly subscription to access your creative voice is a pretty dystopian concept. It's not their creative voice because it doesn't belong to them, it's not unique to them, it's not a part of them, it's a service they access, or, at best, a piece of software they run on their computer. There's nothing unique or personal about the images created, they're all just derivative statistical mush of pictures made by actual people.
        [–]roostrspurs 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        you don’t enjoy art, you consume it. I feel sorry for you
        [–]YesterdayPale3396[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You got me on that one
        [–]Slow_Golf_635 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Totally false, AI is compositing by prompt. Not copy... you are like thoses guys that just don't know how AI works and don't know anything...
        AI uses dataset to "know" how to... there is not any copy of the dataset pictures.
        [–]OneIron5171grr grr -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
        In this conflict, i literaly stand in the complete middle. I dont understand both sides. Why should an generated Image count as Art? 
        [–]OneIron5171grr grr -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        In this conflict, i literaly stand in the complete middle. I dont understand both sides. Why should an generated Image count as Art? 
        [–]scrufflor_dWe are experiencing technical problems. 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        ai art is dookie
        [–]Ottershop 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        It's unethical to use the product of someone's hard work to put them out of a job.
        I have more arguments, but if you don't understand this, there's nothing more for me to say to you.
        [–]Fun_Log_8210 -1 points0 points1 point  (8 children)
        AI isn't made by human.
        Not an argument idk what to say
        Both are art I guess
        BUT
        Both you and the AI are the artist, you are not the only artist. You give the AI your prompt, and the AI creates the image. Kinda like photography, You find a spot, the camera takes the photo.
        [–]Boring-Ad4977 0 points1 point2 points  (7 children)
        That's one damn insult to photographer. Find a spot then take a photo? That is a kid's play.
        Good photographer don't just snap a photo then end with it, they will need to play around with focus, composition and color.
        [–]Slow_Golf_635 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Well i guess, using old cameras it's like that. But now, even Canon and Nikon have auto everything... but they say, it's not AI... give anyone an old film camera and they will never be able to take a good picture....
        [–]Own-Two-247 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Well, generating AI art is also not as simple as just writing a prompt.
        [–]Ottershop 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
        It can absolutely be, and you can't easily tell the difference by looking at the final product.
        [–]Inside_Beginning_163 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
        Photographers aren't real artist- someone when photography where invented
        [–]Boring-Ad4977 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        You couldn't really play much with old camera, lens is fixed, there is no color. Only thing you could do is composition.
        [–]Slow_Golf_635 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        True, they're not artists, but, what they do with the picture is art
        [–]Inside_Beginning_163 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Making art in fact, make you an artist
        [–]Lazy-Traffic5346 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
        It can make better shit that some "artist"
        [–]IronManNeedsTherapy 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        There is nothing like AI "ART"/"ARTIST " it's just a shitty image made by AI
        [–]Galo_de_Rinha05 5 points6 points7 points  (6 children)
        getting big
        vibes from this comment section lmao
        [–]Researcher_Fearless 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
        "one guy said death threats are bad in a corny way, don't you all look stupid now?"
        The funny part about that image is that by posting it everywhere this discourse happens, you end up actually doing the thing yourself.
        [–]Galo_de_Rinha05 -1 points0 points1 point  (3 children)
        "one guy said death threats are bad in a corny way, don't you all look stupid now?"
        Yeah man, if i were an ai artist i'd be shitting me pants every time i saw that image
        [–]Researcher_Fearless 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
        I'm just saying, having the same three of four response images you spam instead of making an argument gives Trump supporter vibes.
        [–]Galo_de_Rinha05 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        I'm sorry but i can't take seriously someone who equates a meme from more than a year ago to actual threats, it's NOT that serious dude
        [–]Researcher_Fearless 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        We're in the replies of someone supporting death threats. Your insistence on meming to downplay it gave me those vibes, that's all.
        [–]GlitteringTone6425 9 points10 points11 points  (8 children)
        and that's my cue to leave this subreddit...
        [–]PartyPacket 1 point2 points3 points  (6 children)
        Jesus you guys are sensitive as fuck what the hell
        [–]Critical_Complaint21 2 points3 points4 points  (5 children)
        Not as sensitive as making public death threats after seeing some AI-generated images
        [–]PartyPacket -1 points0 points1 point  (4 children)
        Yay that's really messed up. Tbh the anti ai people are extremely insufferable but what I'm talking about is everybody's reaction to this specific image. Just look at the comment I'm replying to. Mfs post worse things on this sub and this shit is what makes you want to leave? How??? Smh. Nobody actually wants to kill ai "artists" it's just a dumb joke
        [–]Beneficial-Gap6974 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        I actually haven't seen worse than this be defended so passionately. Could you give me an example?
        I dislike AI, but you can't just wish death on people you hate. that is not a harmless meme. That is not a joke, no matter what the echo chambers who perpetate this mean insist. You can only joke about killing people if you LIKE the group you are joking about, as in its obviously a jest. When you say something horrible about people you obviously hate, it just isn't funny.
        People who use AI are human, they just have different priorities and even if I disagree with them, they don't deserve death threats. Scorn, yes, but not 'memes' about how they should die.
        [–]Critical_Complaint21 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
        It's just a dumb joke until people actually do it, I know not all anti-AIs are insane, in fact 90% of them I see are quite rational, but there are extremists. There are pro-AI extremists who post "Break the pencil" on Facebook, and there are anti-AI extremists who would follow pros and privately harass them online, telling them to end their lives. You don't know who you're facing behind the screen, some contributors of this pixel art may be the extremists who feel genuine hatred and bloodlust towards AI users.
        [–]PartyPacket -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
        You make a good point ngl. But that guy's comment is still dumb
        [–]Critical_Complaint21 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        Could be, but perhaps they were also anti-AI, perhaps they didn't leave the sub solely because of this single post, but the stuff they've been seeing here lately, which may be low-quality for their standard, and this one just felt repetitively as bad in their eyes. (Speaking from a person who has left many subs because of this)
        [–]The_Don_Guray 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
        Spoken like a proper loser. If youre capable enough then compete with them with your art, not mouth.
        [–]Slow_Golf_635 -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
        Totally... AI is a tool but those f*king artists just dislike it.
        [–]The_Don_Guray -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        youd hate them too if you see how much theyre earning in different platforms by selling arts thats not even theirs. Imo its fair to hate them but cursing death upon them is too much imo.
        Using AI arts for personal purposes is fine though, those who hate them are just dumb people
        [–]Pryus_C 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
        I agree as well
        [–]Tolopono 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Cgi artists, 3d modelers, digital artists, and photographers in shambles
        [–]DynHoyw 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
        i don't
        [–]Mediarahan__ 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
        There is no way people are actually getting mad over this lol
        [–]Biscuitalis 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
        My exact thoughts 😭 it's just something comedical but everyone is acting like someone is going to end up killed. 
        [–]Beneficial-Gap6974 -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
        It's only comical if it's in good faith. You can't make death memes against a group you actually hate. It stops being funny then.
        And because people think defending someone's right to not be told they should die means I like AI, no, I don’t. In fact, I am more anti AI than most because I've been against the concept for decades. It's existential. But it's the developers who are doing it, not the users. They're not the problem imo. Though I have no desire to debate this, given my main point is the first paragraph, not the second.
        [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        clanker
        [–]Casualt0p 2 points3 points4 points  (3 children)
        This is why clanker victimize themselves. Stop proving their point
        [–]DataPhreak -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
        Wait, you're saying that the victims of this kind of harassments are victims?
        [–]Casualt0p 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Wishing death on someone else is never right, the art community doesn't consider AI users as artists and that's the truth. However, they should not be hated or wished for death
        [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        clanker
        [–]Equiliari 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        There is no such thing as an "AI artist".
        [–]kylleo 5 points6 points7 points  (5 children)
        the comments are litterally this:
        funny saying this, considering wplace is an ART WEBSITE, ai images usually bears no sembelance of emotion or motive due to the fact it was not made by a person, writing a few words and putting it into an image is not the same as drawing art, which takes real effort to make. ai "art" also takes away real jobs from people who have dedicated their entire life to the technique and live off of art.
        also its a god damn joke
        [–]Inside_Beginning_163 -1 points0 points1 point  (4 children)
        Nice now replace ART WEBSITE with nazi germany
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          [–]TheLeftPewixBar 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
          Based
          [–]-ALTIMIT- 3 points4 points5 points  (8 children)
          Lmao anyone with this take is a complete and total fool.
          “These robots can’t be trusted! They’re evil I tell you!”
          [–]Aquatic_Merc 4 points5 points6 points  (7 children)
          It’s because ai is typically trained off of stolen artwork. Companies are using it to fuck over actual artists, and it’s overall horrible for the environment given how much power + water is needed to generate the images.
          [–]Severe_You9759 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
          I do agree with the "companies are fucking over artists" statement, but if your that concerned about how much water these datacenters are using to generate an image, you better not be streaming any movies.
          You can argue that training the AI uses excessive amounts of water, but the image generation uses fuck all compared to streaming services and social media.
          [–]Researcher_Fearless 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          Considering the servers recycle water, it's really not even worth talking about 
          [–]Mewtwo_1501 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
          Man, a hamburger alone consumes more water than AI. Also, where does the water AI uses go? It doesn't magically disappear, does it? Also, you're using social media powered by data centers; why exclude them? A hamburger takes 2400 liters. An AI image takes 5-10 liters. Everything uses water. And AI is getting more and more efficient each year. Environment is not an argument against AI. There can be ethical issues, but No one is stopping a random guy on the internet from downloading art and feeding it to a local AI model on a laptop; heck, even phones can run some models locally.
          [–]Mr_Zelash 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          1) people also "stole" art in the form of inspiration.
          2) people always say that ai art is shit, always pointing out the defects, the artifact, so by that logic if ai art is better than your art then you're not a real artist (i don't think that, but that what it looks like)
          3) the enviroment thing is laughable, gamers destroy the enviroment 10X more
          [–]BananaPeelEater420 -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
          Find me an actual graph that shows how ai consumes more water and power than billionares and oil companies
          [–]Ittousei 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          Just because the situation is already bad doesn't mean we should give up and make it worse
          [–]Plynkz123 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
          actually most ai can run on a good pc
          [–]Loose_Cod_1464 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
          Cornball
          [–]Mille-Sabords 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
          Why does this sub support AI "art"?
          [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          because more than half the images on the website is made by clankers probably, i hate clanker "art"
          [–]Researcher_Fearless -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
          How's that tribalism working for you?
          [–]zztypezz 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
          we need to kill autotune, CGI, electrical music instruments etc etc
          [–]Cylian91460 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
          No?
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            [–]FriendlyRats8 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
            They’re lazy asf and they don’t put any effort into any of the work they do
            [–]mrkva_ 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
            corny
            [–]Judlex15 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
            I don't like ai art but I know it can't be stopped
            [–]mdquak 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
            Based
            [–]sourberryskittles 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Is that the damn femboy rat
            [–]1381erfan1381 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            This is in Tehran, Iran !
            [–]Albidoinos 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Say that to Wplace moderators
            [–]Spleiter75 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            This community has so many double standards when it comes to things like this. You guys really think that only your opinion is right. Grow up.
            [–]Lapiz2150 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            "مرگ بر خامنه‌ای" mentioned
            [–]YesterdayPale3396[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Everyone agreed to hate Khamenei and Khomeini
            [–]Puzzleheaded-Load426 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Reggie spotted
            [–]V2_Seeking_revenge 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Holy radicalism
            [–]RestaurantEntire4570 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            A Mauro mentira da comunidade de desenho é falar a são contra ia
            [–]josuk8 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            [ Removed by Reddit ]
            [–]eternally_forsaken_ 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Why the hell it's in iran?!
            Sorry I almost memorized the whole country because of Israeli Iranan conflict
            [–]stinkzies 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            jarvis im low on karma, post “ai bad”
            [–]pigeondriver45 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            what is the hungarian flag doing in arabia
            [–]SepherixSlimy 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            You're the ones empowering them by naming them "artists."
            [–]cute_vixen_Julie 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            threats Gooner stuff Yeah, you're not helping us.
            [–]Destroynxssss 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            erm. I love artists (im not one) but soon this is going to be either in aiwars or some other weird sub creating more stupid jerk about replacing ai artist part with jewish or smth. I suggest 🌳🏕️🌸🌷💕🫂🙏
            [–]Card_Belcher_Poster 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            Where is this located on the map?
            [–]YesterdayPale3396[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Tehran, hi clippy
            [–]Distinct_Band4524 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            "... is bad we should kill ..." wrap it up 🥀
            [–]MrFezon 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Corny, yet based. Also, Swans mentioned!
            [–]Consistent-Bath9908 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            no such thing as
            [–]Amazonrazer 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            My city Tehran finally got mentioned on wplace lmao
            [–]Amazonrazer 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Also my highschool friends death to Khamenei graffiti is in this pic LMAO
            [–]JustaRelief 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Death threats arent funny, bozo
            [–]Happy_Description_14 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            People saying "noooo killing them is too far" as if this isn't just a joke
            [–]1ustfu1 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            based
            [–]Own-Bit8819 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Can they even be called artists?
            [–]Pale-Ad-8691 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Since when has saying “we need to kill ___” in a meme been considered a “death threat”. This is such an obvious joke, and is made even funnier bt the fact ai bros lose their minds over it.
            [–]Aduritor 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Actually, I think death threats aren't funny.
            [–]Informal_Mind_7840 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            What is HE doing here... 
            [–]Internal-State465 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            No, me keep use ai for Kendrick Lamar drink wine like Washington
            [–]SufficientOrchid1815 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Why? Just don't use it
            [–]BlazeRagnarokBlade 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Eh l, even though I dislike ai generated shit I became anti anti ai after these festering cunts vandalised the grass wonder memorial. I hope AI art becomes good enough that they all starve on the streets.
            [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            i have NEVER seen a post with so many sensitive comments, even on political posts. y'all clankers can't even take a joke without whining about "death threats"
            [–]Claxvii 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            I mean, let's first eat the rich then we discuss artistic etiquette (AI art is not art but it IS class war)
            [–]Shadowking78 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            True
            [–]Tmccreight 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            The word Artists needs to be in quotation marks.
            [–]mcdonaldscovidwater 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            SWANS!!!!
            [–]ix_Cayde_ 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            I’m anti ai, I still don’t see how you can say this and still see yourself as morally correct. Do you really think wishing harm on a person is more acceptable than ai art?
            [–]SmileDaemon 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Imagine being this hateful and bigoted.
            [–]Eddeghair 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
            Not Funny joke, threaring people's life is not funny. Changed to something more positive instead.
            [–]ifandbut 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
            Idk about you, but sometimes manual labor provides me enjoyment. Nice to change things up.
            [–]Bad_Commit_46_pres 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            and for many art is just a means to an end
            [–]Hunter13ua 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Pardon me, but LOL? Occasional manual labor is very much enjoyable.
            [–]Vaughn -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
            Both? Depends on how you use it?
            Just like how, if you're assembling furniture, your goal might be either the assembly process or the finished chair. I once turned an old tree root into a table, and it looks great... but I don't get upset at people who shop at IKEA.
            [–]WelderBubbly5131 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
            AI art only represents a thin level of imagination and a VERY thin level of skill. That’s the issue with it. The number of intentional choices made on behalf of the person is significantly fewer. The only thing needed is thinking of a vague idea.
            I did mention methods/techniques requiring more skill (controlnet/prompt+lora/Layered prompting, comfyUI, Automatic1111, etc)
            You ignore that and attack only prompt based methods. It seems that you just want to hate on AI art, and not engage in a proper discussion.
            [–]Inside_Beginning_163 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
            Its a god damn joke
            [–]clocktownnpc 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            it was definitely sarcasm..
            [–]Slow_Golf_635 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
            Fuck you... but really, and very deeply... you just don't understand what a screwdriver means to... Just die.. you fucking bullshit nobody.
            Just dislike me... every person that does it are just meat bags that can't accept tools improvements...
            [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            clanker
            [–]medic-in-a-dress 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            1. are you okay mentally? I mean this genuinely you do not seem like you're doing well.
            2. Jesus Christ stop wishing death on people for not liking ai images. That's freaking insane to do. I mean I don't think people who generate ai should be destroyed either but you don't have to do the opposite, it's crazy to wish death on either side
            [–]Yuriko_Shokugan -3 points-2 points-1 points  (6 children)
            AI isn't alive tho, it can't be "killed" per se
            [–]glikesss 13 points14 points15 points  (5 children)
            AI artists are pretty alive humans i think, even if AI itself isn't
            [–]Bnmvgy 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
            They’re not artist tho just prompt typers
            [–]glikesss -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
            Agreed. They are "artists"
            [–]Prior_Tax8546 -4 points-3 points-2 points  (2 children)
            Well if you kill a person is murder so...
            [–]glikesss 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
            I'm not going to kill someone even AI "artist"...
            [–]glikesss -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
            But if someone else...
            [–]Flashlight237 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            And Clippy is just there chilling.
            [–]Hefty_Ad_2292 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            Hi! I just got unbanned after 3 days for say ai and ai “artist” can go k:// / fk them selves
            [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            bit too far, just say the classic "we need to kill ai artist"
            [–]svxvvz 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            calling yourself an artist when you just generate everything with AI is like calling yourself a pilot because you were a passenger on a plane. sure, you got your desired result. but you didn't actually do anything to get yourself there
            [–]Equivalent-Tip6446Player #3662048 :) 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Agreed
            [–]ProfessionalDeer7972 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            District 22? I didn't even know that District 10 came out
            [–]bigbootycentaur 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            This sub just turned into yet another circlejerk of terminally online kids.
            [–]medic-in-a-dress 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
            yeah I think I'm muting it. I just wanted to make pixel art :/
            [–]Electrical_Bench_774 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            “We need to kill people who make Mario and Luigi have a lightsaber duel on Mustafar for shits and giggles.”
            [–]DemonTheWillow 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
            The Call of Violence Antis are the only Antis I don't like ( I am Pro AI )
            [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            clankerfucker
            [–]DataPhreak -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
            I also don't like the antis who make up fake facts to try to demonize AI.
            [–]SalsburrySteak 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            Maybe we shouldn’t kill people. Just saying
            [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
            sensitive clanker
            [–]numseomse 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Progress can't be stopped
            [–]rottingmaggots 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            stop spreading hatred.
            [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            clanker
            [–]TheTrumanCian -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
            I mean, it makes sense that this drawing is so big. It was probably made by crappy artists who lost their jobs to AI and therefore have lots of free time lol.
            [–]YesterdayPale3396[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
            This actually makes sense now.
            [–]Mathsboy2718 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
            Now you see the problem here is that the shape of "AI" is contained in the shape of "ALL" and the shape of "artist" is contained in the shape of "artists"
            [–]Kel_030 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
            I guess death threats are fine as long as somebody uses AI
            [–]HilVal -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
            Yes
            [–]MagnetMemes -1 points0 points1 point  (3 children)
            Working on tracing a piece as I see this, no consumer ever tells its AI after it goes through the BIP tracing process.
            [–][deleted]  (2 children)
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              [–]MagnetMemes -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
              Depends on the type of art, AI is more efficient but humans usually produce higher quality product. For a publishing company with some of the fastest turnaround times in the country we use AI due to it being superior at our goals.
              [–]CashLoud5225 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
              Yusuke?
              [–]go_1x1_noob_ -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
              Huh, so they're artists after all?
              [–]literally_rika -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
              Watch every pro AI subreddit now have a complete meltdown over it and some people will use it to say that they're being treated worse than trans people
              [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              clankers everywhere smh
              [–]AwwwSkiSkiSki -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
              [–]Thinking_Emoji_ 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
              Piss filter
              [–]Edurrado comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points  (1 child)
              This is the kind o terr0rism we need
              [–]milobanana 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              there is no kind of terrorism we need.
              little crybaby, can’t even say “terrorism” without self censoring
              [–]Quirkyserenefrenzy -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
              I don't condone murder. But having ai prompters pick up a pencil is my preffered route to take
              [–]DCB_Prime -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
              That’s now how Persian works it’s right to left
              Like this: منطقه ۲۲
              [–]YesterdayPale3396[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
              Yes, because they use Arabic letters.
              [–]Apprehensive_Ad_7184 -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
              Why is it a redraw of Yusuke from persona 5
              [–]Lusaminable -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
              Holly shit Signalis mentionned !!
              [–]Glad-Maintenance-540 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
              I’m so lost. Been seeking these posts. What do they mean?
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                [–]Itachi_uchiha_62 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                I don't agree with kill but am against the ai art. But also. What in the persona 5?
                For context
                [–]FunnyGalWhoDoesArt -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                Yes, Ariane
                [–]BananaResponsible366 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                There are no AI artist, so no one gets killed and everyone lives happily ever after
                [–]Lorddanielgudy -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                I've heard enough, more flesh to leng 🗣️
                [–]Lorddanielgudy -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
                I've never seen a post so full of whiny snowflakes. Every political sub seems mature in comparison
                [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                clankers everywhere 
                [–]WickedBowserJr -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                No. Violence is never the answer.
                [–]dinmammapizza -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                There are no ai artists so its fine
                [–]YamperIsBestBoy -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                This is GOATsuke erasure
                [–]FilippoBonini -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                Kill me just because I use an algorithm to put pixels in order instead of the pencil
                [–]Fin4jaws2 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                We don't need to kill people
                [–]Jedimobslayer comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points  (0 children)
                Woah woah woah, don’t kill the “artists” they are just not confident in their art skills (at least that’s why I was when ai was first coming around, I have since grown and sworn it off especially when I realized what damage it does to the art industry)
                Kill the people who made the ai 🙂
                [–]GruulNinja comment score below threshold-18 points-17 points-16 points  (54 children)
                So quick to violence
                [–]Researcher_Fearless 2 points3 points4 points  (17 children)
                And yet the other reply is someone insisting that it isn't a joke.
                People mean this shit. Don't diminish it with Schrodinger's asshole.
                [–]ZayParolik -1 points0 points1 point  (16 children)
                Whoever they are - they are not welcome at anti-AI places either. No one actually is going to hurt/kill prompters after posting this image.
                [–]Researcher_Fearless 3 points4 points5 points  (15 children)
                I don't believe that. r/FuckAI got banned for a while for inciting violence. Do you know how bad a sub has to get for the admins to step in and make that call?
                Those people are absolutely welcome in anti AI spaces, and those sentiments are expressed genuinely in those spaces. It's less acceptable than it was a year ago, but that's a low bar.
                Pretending that the people saying stuff like this aren't part of the anti AI community is an insult to the intelligence of everyone here.
                [–]ZayParolik 1 point2 points3 points  (13 children)
                One of the rules on r/AntiAI , which is more popular anti-ai sub, than FuckAI.
                FuckAI is literally more extrimist version of anti-ai movement, and that's all.
                [–]Researcher_Fearless -2 points-1 points0 points  (12 children)
                "only extremists in my movement condone violence" is a hell of a goalpost shift from what you said earlier.
                [–]ZayParolik 1 point2 points3 points  (11 children)
                I said that violence is not welcome in r/AntiAI . After I said that r/FuckAI is just more extremist version of anti-ai movement.
                I never said that anti-ai movement has only kind and sane people.
                [–]Researcher_Fearless -1 points0 points1 point  (10 children)
                You said they are not welcome in "Anti-AI places". Saying that you were only talking about one sub is indeed a massive goalpost move.
                [–]ZayParolik 0 points1 point2 points  (9 children)
                Well, I didn't knew that r/FuckAI is standing for violence, there is my bad.
                But r/AntiAI is the MAIN Anti-AI sub. The biggest one, the most important one. It's like saying that rape-con is welcome on fanfic subs, because it's welcome on specific sub that is about such fanfics.
                [–]Researcher_Fearless -1 points0 points1 point  (8 children)
                It has over a quarter the members, that's not insignificant.
                People complain about anime fans sexualizing children, yet most of them don't. Does that make the criticism invalid?
                You're making a "not all men" style argument, which is flawed because you're using it to dodge your community's responsibility for it's bad actors.
                [–]ZayParolik 0 points1 point2 points  (7 children)
                4 times less is a huge difference.
                And yes, that does criticism invalid. There are a lot of anime fans who do not like lolicon culture. Ones that should be criticized are the ones who support, not everyone at all.
                And if my argument is invalid - then any movement is violent. There are violent people in every community, side, movement and culture. Including both anti-ai and ai.
                [–]Researcher_Fearless -1 points0 points1 point  (6 children)
                Over a quarter of your movement being in violent spaces is hella concerning, dude, I don't know what to tell you.
                [–]ZayParolik 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
                I never said that EVERYONE in r/FuckAI is violent. It has violent posts, and it doesn't have "no violence" rule, but that's all. This is just a sub that is more about hating.
                Plus, we all know that reddit Moderation is ass, ban for violence doesn't mean shit.
                [–]Researcher_Fearless -1 points0 points1 point  (4 children)
                Reddit admins bring ass was my point lmao, they don't get involved unless things get REALLY bad. The sub is better than it was before because they don't want to get banned again. I've seen comments with graphic descriptions of how they wanted to murder people who use AI get dozens of upvotes.
                If your defense hinges on your community needing moderation to not make constant death threats, then I don't feel particularly moved.
                [–]ZayParolik 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
                I never said that EVERYONE in my movement are perfectly fine.
                Once again, every movement contains mentally ill people. Not everyone even at FuckAI are violent. Yes, there are more of them, but that's all. You act like couple of comments immediately make everyone in one sub violent.
                And I don't see any proof of your words.
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                [–]BlannyBoo95 1 point2 points3 points  (9 children)
                Not a funny joke when it is extremist. Plus, sick people in the world won't see it as a joke, and some crazy dude might really do it, commiting murder.
                [–]ZayParolik 0 points1 point2 points  (6 children)
                What is extremist in over exaggeration? The joke is not about actually killing someone, but is about expressing discontent in exaggerated way. When you rage on someone in ranked game, do you actually want to do things you yell at that person? Do you actually mean those insults and threats? Of course no.
                [–]BlannyBoo95 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
                Nice point, for a SANE PERSON. Now let's talk about who is not sane, nor give a shit and would litterally kill or commit crimes bc they believe in this ideologies.
                [–]ZayParolik 1 point2 points3 points  (4 children)
                That person then is too mentally-unstable to have access to internet.
                [–]Inside_Beginning_163 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                Yeah, there aren't those people on internet......
                [–]BlannyBoo95 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
                you really think insane people are not already in the internet, around? Really? How naive can you be?
                [–]ZayParolik 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
                You are naive one here, if you think THIS image/meme is a potential threat. We have a lot of more extrimistic things going on everywhere, and this meme is not even a drop inside the ocean
                [–]BlannyBoo95 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                Then let anyone do whatever they want, because they are "droplets of a bigger ocean". And then cry when you hear in the news "Crazy dude stalked this influencer because they seen she posted AI, then killed her in the name of artists. He was also in a cult!". and be like "Omg, how could this happen?! I really can't tell!"
                [–]Choppers-Top-Hat -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
                Well damn, I guess we'd better just ban wplace completely, since apparently it has the evil power to hypnotize people into doing bad things.
                "STOP! YOU CAN'T POST THAT PIXEL ART OF MARIO! IT MIGHT MAKE SOMEONE JUMP ON A TURTLE, COMMITTING MURDER!"
                [–]BlannyBoo95 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                A pixel art of Mario doesn't promote violence. A "KILL this people" art does, and it's also dehumanizing.
                [–]Separate_Elk457 0 points1 point2 points  (15 children)
                Sure but make a joke with the same context about another group and suddenly it’s a whole other issue. I’m all about fairness and equality here. Either joking about zeroing all groups is fair or wrong for everyone. Just because we are biased to what agree/disagree with, doesn’t mean these groups should be treated any different. Take it from me, I used to think furries were subhuman perverted monsters that did super sus things… now I think the majority of them are ok 👌
                [–]ZayParolik 1 point2 points3 points  (14 children)
                This shit you say is literally the "Replace 'AI artist' with 'Jews'".
                Hating on etnicity/minority and hating on someone who literally is a threat to your job and passion is different.
                [–]Separate_Elk457 -1 points0 points1 point  (8 children)
                So like “all intrusion prevention systems”, “all signature based scanning tools”, all “3D printing cake decorators”, “automatic lathes”, all “automatic driving functions”, all “3D Printers”, all “t-shirt design printers”, all tik-tok dance copiers”, all “tik tok audio copiers” all “YouTube joke copiers”. Shit man this has been going on since factory jobs were pushed out of the U.S. this is just the future, either you move along with change or you get eaten by it.
                Yeah you’re right, whatever artwork you painstakingly spend weeks making can be made in 30 seconds by any idiot with a keyboard and a LLM, but this same thing happened to cabinet makers, key makers, locksmiths, furniture artisans. It’s no different, it’s just your turn. On the bright side, somebody will always pay for good hand-made work.
                Or just hand made work made by “content creators” in bikinis on twitch 🤷‍♂️
                Side note, the job I went to college for was mostly replaced by AI too. Just need to either become so good you’re indispensable, keep doing it for fun/you or find something else
                [–]ZayParolik 1 point2 points3 points  (5 children)
                Absolutely not.
                AI 'art' is not a step in evolution, it's an insult to the whole idea of art. Art is not a product to be made fast and easy. It's content, not art. Art is about passion, effort and honest work. Art is expressing yourself. Art is about using your own hands, your own power you hold, your own skills to create something that you yourself own. While image generation is absolutely nothing compared to it. Image generation AI can make good content, I can agree, but it's absolutely different thing from art. Content is made to feed the hungry audience, content is made to earn money or to be an amusement, while actual art is made by artist to himself, and to the world, not to earn money, but to express yourself, show off your skills, show people the idea of your look on things. AI can't do this. AI can't immitate true passion, and prompter can't feel the sense of accomplishment after actually hard work on his creation.
                [–]Separate_Elk457 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
                Then get eaten. We we’ll see where the next 10 years lead us. I’ll be okay, hope you’ll figure something out in the end.
                [–]ZayParolik 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
                People were telling us that NFT will live forever.
                People were telling us that dirigibles will be the next word in transportation (long time ago, but still.)
                Not every thing that is popular and looks like a progress is actually a good thing.
                [–]Separate_Elk457 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
                Also I really dont get it. If AI can’t do it, why be scared? If someone making or buying art can see that AI isn’t generating passion then why use or buy AI art?
                Also my main argument is for the treating others humanely and it’s really weird how people will call for zeroing an AI artist but seek forgiveness for a murderer, s.offender, abuser and so on. If we are truly going to lower the bar of calling for the zeroing of people who use LLMs to generate pictures, then why not people who torrent and seed movies? I’m sure not all the CG artists are millionaires? What about torrenting music? Viewing copyrighted material on cracked websites. It’s technically “stealing” from artists. But no, I get your point, fuck everyone who isn’t you.
                [–]ZayParolik 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
                Who is scared? The problem is that AI 'art' is nothing but content. The problem is with how much easier is to create brainless content with AI, which is already happening, flooding social media with so called 'slop'.
                And , I tell you too, just like I told the other person - the joke is not about killing AI 'artists', but about over exaggerating your displeasure about them. No one actually is going to hurt or kill them. I can barely believe this isn't your first time on internet, if you can't understand such simple joke.
                And yeah, piracy is still a crime, you know. But the thing that AI does - it does to EVERYONE, not just big rich companies, but to poor artists who live from commission to commission. Stealing a movie from company like SONY or other will make zero difference. Torrenting a game from company like SEGA wouldn't make any difference either. But even one commission for some unpopular artist, who gets the bare minimum to survive per month - will make great difference to their life.
                The other problem is that AI is being used by companies or bussineses to cut on budget, by firing artists/designers. You know, when you waste most of your entire life learning design and mastering your skills, and you get kicked out from your only job - you would get mad, and you would get scared. The faster companies stop using AI - faster those people who got fired get their jobs back.
                Also, technology should be reducing effort for jobs/hobbies that require physical strength, not artistic knowledge.
                [–]Choppers-Top-Hat -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
                "This is the future" is the excuse I heard from people who told me that Metaverse and NFT's were here to stay, too.
                AI is so useless that despite every billionaire on Earth trying to jam it down the throats of normal people, AI companies have yet to turn a penny in profit and the overwhelming public consensus around AI is increasingly negative.
                For an invention to be "the future" it needs to be an improvement over what we had before, and AI is not. It creates objectively worse results than a human does, it costs more to use, and in most cases it actually reduces productivity because a human still has to check whatever the AI generates for mistakes (which are often numerous.)
                Since AI cultists can't argue that AI makes things better (because they know it doesn't) their new argument is to just rub it in everyone's faces and yell "THIS IS THE FUTURE, YOU CAN'T STOP IT" as though forcing it on people will somehow make us like it more. Just makes you all seem desperate, bro.
                [–]Card_Belcher_Poster -1 points0 points1 point  (4 children)
                What? "Jews are a threat to our jobs and safety" was literally an argument for antisemitism for hundreds of years. You are not owed job security against the market at large.
                [–]ZayParolik 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
                "jews are a threat to our jobs and safety" is a lie, made to justify hate between ethnicities
                AI literally taking jobs is truth, that is happening in the world. Designers getting fired from their jobs. Lads that literally say that companies should replace real workers with AI.
                [–]Card_Belcher_Poster -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
                It's no more or less of a lie than AI taking jobs. It's true that more jews means more jews taking jobs. That's also not something bad or that should be stopped. Same with AI.
                [–]ZayParolik 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
                Absolutely not.
                Do you even think about what you are writing? Companies are replacing people with AI. How can this not be bad? People are losing their only source of money, and hard-earned job, that required them a lot of education.
                Plus, I don't remember any stories of companies massively firing workers to replace them with jewish ones.
                [–]Card_Belcher_Poster 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                The same argument could be made for machines that make cars, could it not? Or literally any other form of automation? They can, you know, get another job. Should we just never invent anything that makes human jobs obsolete because it causes people to lose jobs?
                And yes, there were stories about jews taking over companies because they were invading the market. I have no idea if they're true, but people were definitely saying it was.
                [–]Scythian_Grudge -5 points-4 points-3 points  (6 children)
                The difference is, this violence is justified.
                No, I am not joking
                [–]GruulNinja 4 points5 points6 points  (4 children)
                And you're weird for that.
                [–]Scythian_Grudge -5 points-4 points-3 points  (3 children)
                I'm objectively justified, actually. Perhaps reading is difficult for you? Should I space out my words, would that help you? Is there an adult who can slowly read this to you so you can comprehend?
                [–]BananaPeelEater420 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
                In no place on this goddamn planet you're justified.
                [–]Scythian_Grudge -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
                Objectively justified, actually
                [–]GruulNinja 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                Weirdo
                [–]AAAAAAAAAAAAreyouok 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                Ai artists are wierd, but damn that level of hate is wierder.
                [–]Pretty_Challenge_634 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
                They mispelled furries.
                [–]ThomasThePizzaMan -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
                District 22 coming soon.
                [–]Dersemonia -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
                Oh look, now we are defending violence and death threat, nice.
                [–]JohnV1Ultrakill 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                sensitive clanker
                [–]Anon_967 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
                Kill is a bit extreme
                [–]Bigenemy000 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                As much as i dislike AI art. Death threats arent funny, it makes you just look like an asshole
                [–]Sioscottecs23 comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points  (0 children)
                fucking whygena