Rebellion against the Law (except this website pls no ban pls)

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olijo

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Honestly, I get where you're coming from this whole situation sucks. But just to respond to a few of your points:

  1. Samsung does know about this kind of petition. There have been tons of similar ones in the past, and big companies monitor stuff like this all the time. So it’s not like they’re in the dark.

2 & 3. Blaming it on EU laws is a convenient excuse, but let’s be real a lot of this comes down to money and control. Locking bootloaders means people are more likely to stick with their stock software, which helps their ecosystem, reduces warranty risks, and keeps users from extending the life of their phones through ROMs. It’s more about business than safety.

  1. Saying “almost nobody signed it” doesn’t really make sense if it’s brand new and already has 139 verified signatures. That’s actually pretty decent for a niche issue, and things like this take time to grow. If no one cared, no one would have signed at all.

And just to be clear I’m not being naive. I’m frustrated too. I’ve posted about this in multiple threads because I care about this issue. Locking people out of their own devices is not okay. If I came off too strong before, that wasn’t my intention — just really tired of seeing this happen over and over.
 

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Then I missed all of the old ones I guess, I only remember the fsf petition. That was missing the unlock entirely, they asked for sources of everything but the unlock? Nowhere to be found, like you can do pmos for anything but you can't unlock.

Aside, I doubt a petition made them do this change, I mean could be but really? Aren't we exaggerating? But who knows maybe I'm the one naive here, lmao. But if you think about it why a brand that allows you to unlock would block that ability just for a petition? That petition wasn't for their devices, I guess just for the carrier ones but that's not a Samsung problem, they only follow what those carriers asked them for, it's a problem of the carrier and not of Samsung.

But.....

 
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A report points out that this likely due to the European Union law 2014/53/EU which imposes new cybersecurity requirements on device manufacturers like Samsung. They must ensure that the devices they sell in Europe block the installation of unauthorized software and only run signed and approved ROMs.

Absolutely despicable.

The elites are taking freedom and ownership away and excusing it with "security" and "protection"? How typical. It is the usual fearmongering to get you to accept it. They did the same thing with DMCA. It's a muzzle, not a shield.

The elites arbitrarily decide stuff without you or me having a say. To their credit, they did good things once in a while, such as enforcing USB and putting an end to proprietary vendor charging connectors (remember Sony Ericsson's horrible connector?), but banning bootloader unlocking is evil. And as usual, people will only notice once it's too late.

And whenever they elites do something good, it sometimes is far too late. Late is better than never, but did everyone really have to suffer from planned obsolescence batteries for over a decade? This nonsense should have been stopped in its tracks in 2007, not 2027.

Not only should unlockable bootloaders be mandatory, but bootloaders unlocked by default. Locked bootloaders have caused way more pain than they're worth. Many people learn about bootloaders by the time it is already too late and too much of their data is locked in.

Unlocked bootloaders are not just for custom operating systems but also for basic control over user data. Besides, modifying operating systems should be encouraged, not banished. It is useful for educational purposes and can lead to innovations. Creative people would come up with ideas that help other people. All of this is thwarted so powerful people can enforce their idea of how we get to use our devices.

When the legal system picks the side of the big corporations rather than holding them accountable, everyone is screwed.

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Mass surveillance​

"Cybersecurity requirements" is the usual fearmongering to scare people into accepting violations of their freedom. The elites want to implement their wet dream of one-way mass surveillance while pretending to care oh-so-much about privacy.

Louis Rossmann video: GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU (Odysee mirror)

If you can't choose your operating system, the elites can put whichever spyware they dream of in your operating system and you have no recourse.

Planned obsolescence​

Forced bootloaders are also planned obsolescence because they prevent third-party operating systems such as Lineage OS from being installed.

Third-party operating systems can provide extended support for older devices long after support was dropped by the smartphone company. Obviously, smartphone companies would rather have you buy new phones. For the same reason, they prevent you from replacing your battery while hypocritically pretending to care about the environment.

[I hereby release this post into public domain, CC0 1.0.]
 
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    Mass surveillance​

    "Cybersecurity requirements" is the usual fearmongering to scare people into accepting violations of their freedom. The elites want to implement their wet dream of one-way mass surveillance while pretending to care oh-so-much about privacy.

    Louis Rossmann video: GDPR meant nothing: chat control ends privacy for the EU (Odysee mirror)

    If you can't choose your operating system, the elites can put whichever spyware they dream of in your operating system and you have no recourse.

    Planned obsolescence​

    Forced bootloaders are also planned obsolescence because they prevent third-party operating systems such as Lineage OS from being installed.

    Third-party operating systems can provide extended support for older devices long after support was dropped by the smartphone company. Obviously, smartphone companies would rather have you buy new phones. For the same reason, they prevent you from replacing your battery while hypocritically pretending to care about the environment.

    [I hereby release this post into public domain, CC0 1.0.]
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    Finally, someone who understands that the 'safety restrictions' are just walls waiting to be climbed. Rooting is digital rebellion, and I came here with a shovel and curiosity. Let’s dig!
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    Creating phones requires a lot of money, unless you have a billionaire friend you won't do anything, and in any case this would end like other freedom phones. We need to free every phone or a dystopia where the user is just a guest will take place soon
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    @Its_A_Walter_White_Yo put this on your main post, if it's allowed, at me seems like rules allow petitions. And let's see how many signatures we reach:https://chng.it/ZY6fQqcM6X
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    @Its_A_Walter_White_Yo put this on your main post, if it's allowed, at me seems like rules allow petitions. And let's see how many signatures we reach:https://chng.it/ZY6fQqcM6X
    I just signed it
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    @Its_A_Walter_White_Yo put this on your main post, if it's allowed, at me seems like rules allow petitions. And let's see how many signatures we reach:https://chng.it/ZY6fQqcM6X
    Hell yeah man I signed it too.
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    Good thing I stopped using (I mean, getting used by) Microsh*t's proprietary "OS" years ago. I don't remember booting into windows since then, except for in a VM where the malicious "OS" is safely sandboxed.
    Remember, it is a service, not an OS.
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    Welcome to XDA
    mobile laws that stop me from editing my own files
    The things you are trying to mean aren't actual legal laws, but just so everyone knows here, "laws that stop me from editing my own files" is called DRM, which is enforced by DMCA.
    And in this case I too am "rebelling against the law" because as a member of the FSF, I'm fighting the DMCA.

    And btw, you should check my no-BS root guide, I wouldn't trust youtube as a source for learning to root.
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    restrictions*
    Technically, "digital restrictions" are based on copyright laws. These protections are not the law but simply methods they have invented to help maintain control of their legal ownership based on said laws. I'm not saying I agree with any of it. I just waned to add on to your statement.
    Yes I meant to say that they are based on copyright laws, my english is not that good.
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    Sup, I hate laws and I'm aspiring to become the biggest nerd imaginable.

    More specifically I hate mobile laws that stop me from editing my own files under the banner of safety. I dont know much about rooting but i do remember rooting my mothers samsung phone (without her permission) using a yt tutorial.
    I am a funky guy with a good enough sense of humor so dont get offended if I say something bad (my apologies).

    Something about defying the mobile laws through rooting makes me happy and exited to change the device in my hand. The idea of potentially pushing your devices to their max limit is very attracting to me hence why I'm here. It makes me very confused because I lack proper knowledge, I see confusion as unexplored territory. I just wanna observe, interpret, assume, find out I'm wrong, see why I'm wrong, amend and continue hypothesizing because that makes me feel smart. And it also feels like I am accomplishing stuff.

    In summery: Mobile laws rendering us immobile suck. Am funny guy (source: Grandma) . Give me k n o w l e d g e
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    Technically, "digital rights" are based on copyright laws. These protections are not the law but simply methods they have invented to help maintain control of their legal ownership based on said laws. I'm not saying I agree with any of it. I just waned to add on to your statement.
    They maintain control but we the users which are the actual owners of the devices remain with dust and using the Windows example we are guests on our own devices.... This is ridiculous