I'm going to lay out my thoughts in detail since, while not everyone is levelling this critique of my statement in good faith, I believe some (like Rosie) are. One of the most persistent strawmen that have arisen from people's interpretation of what I said was that I expect talents to break their NDA and/or was implying that they should be shamed for not doing so. Neither of these is accurate to what I actually said. I understand how some people may have extrapolated that from my saying "...those already on the inside have no excuse." However, it is a very narrow interpretation of what that phrase encompasses, and ignores the context of the specific issue that I'm criticising: the fact that 10,000 people were lured into handing over sensitive information to a company with a now-confirmed history of malicious leaks because no one was willing to publicly acknowledge that something was fishy about the VShojo auditions. Something that should be fairly uncontroversial to say is that a lot of people could be painted as responsible for the taboo around criticising VShojo that existed prior to Ironmouse's allegations against the company. Yes, some of these people are the talents themselves (after all, NDAs can't compel you to promote/defend a company even if they stop you from talking about its inner workings). However, it also encompasses orbiters, sycophants and those who claim insider knowledge regarding the company and/or its talents after the everything has already come out. Tectone and Evanito were not victims of VShojo. The former held them up as an industry beacon until after the embezzlement allegations. He then went on to flex his apparent insider knowledge of the company's depravity and how he had known for "15-16 months" about their issues, which he claimed to have tried to 'warn people about' using vague language. Yet, as recently as April, he publicly stated that VShojo was supposedly "the least bad" VTuber agency in a video made after Gura's graduation, where he went on a whole 'VTuber agencies are all exploitative' tirade. In spite of supposedly knowing the entire time that this was a company built on rot and lies, he still put it on a pedestal before coming out to crow once someone else (Ironmouse) took the risk of blowing up the facade. This is the kind of thing that I believe should be shamed. The latter claims to have known about the hush-money audition practices for a long time. I have been told that he mentioned/hinted at it either on stream/in a video at the time, but I'm still in the process of finding the source for that myself. Evanito was, at the time of the first round of auditions, doing collabs with the VShojo talents as well as presumably being involved enough with the company to have been invited to their exclusive parties. In spite of this, come 2024, talents like Zentreya and Geega were pushing for more people to audition for VShojo. This requires us to believe one of two things. Either: 1) The talents had been informed about this by Evanito or someone else and yet still forged ahead with promoting the auditions to a new batch of people come 2024 out of sheer, pig-headed denial, or 2) Evanito hung onto this information and didn't even communicate it to the talents at VShojo (this gets even worse if he did share and/or hint at it publicly around the time). Only after the ex-auditionees (e.g. Camila) took the risk of exposing this practice themselves did Evanito return to the spotlight to say that he had always known and how glad he was that the information was "now public." This is the kind of thing that I believe should be shamed. Another thing: many in the replies seem to be treating the idea of people speaking out against VShojo at all prior to the embezzlement allegations as impossible due to social stigma. Many of them will state, without a trace of irony, that they have no idea where said stigma comes from - even while they try to dismiss and water down my points to nothing more than "victim-blaming." This is the third group of people who I believe should be shamed: sycophants of the talents whose in-group defensiveness makes criticism impossible. VShojo's tendency for nepotistic hiring was only matched in how obvious it was from the outside looking in by the company's tendency to hide behind its talents for PR. How was the company able to get away with the latter regarding auditions? The answer is simple: every time Zentreya advocated for the integrity of the auditions in place of management, people nodded along. Every time someone pointed out that this shouldn't be her job, VShojo fans would say "that's talent freedom: she says whatever she likes, who are you to dictate what she can or cannot say?" Every time someone pointed out that every single hire prior to Nova was friends with at least one of the talents who were on the roster before them, they were called "antis" and "haters." Even after Nova debuted, VShojo fans would attempt to use them as some sort of retroactive proof to deny that VShojo has a history of nepotistic hiring. In other words, any criticism directed at the company's practices was interpreted as an attack on the talents personally. The latter were perceived as perpetual victims, and the company benefited from how that perception allowed them to evade scrutiny by proxy (& for a very long time). So long as that attitude persists among the same fans, there is a high chance that what happened with VShojo may happen again. Each and every talent who has come out to expose a bad practice at the company took a risk in doing so. Yet every single practice, from the nepo-hiring to the use of talents as PR meatshields to the company's utter lack of any unified identity, could (and had) been observed from the outside looking in. My point was that the social risk taken by insiders in speaking out against these practices would not have been so high if sycophants hadn't proven themselves to be completely averse to any and all criticism of the company regarding these exact same practices. This is why those sycophants should be shamed. As helpful as it is for insiders to expose what happened in the aftermath of a disaster like VShojo, doing so cannot prevent the harm that has already occurred (hence why I keep banging on about the 10,000 applicants). On top of that, any lessons that might've been learned from their experience in terms of what to look out for/avoid will be mostly neutralised by the sycophantic hugbox mentality if it is allowed to persist without stigma. Shaming people for coming out to crow about insider knowledge only after someone else has bitten the bullet to expose something awful is not the same thing as shaming people for speaking out about exploitation and abuse. So long as people continue to conflate the two, VShojo's story will not be special; nothing will be learned and it will inevitably happen again.

Hey man I’m more than happy to tell you everything you seem ill informed about but bro can we please stop trynna paint me to be something I’m not lol You gotta leave me outta this one fam I can dm you, call you whatever but this ain’t it chief Also me finding out about this in the middle of my dinner feels wild to me Tag me next time at least 🫡