It's pretty obvious that Magni and Vesper got poached by Vshojo, many people myself included speculated about this already 2 years ago. Gunrun wanted more males but Kuro flopped so hard they had to reconsider. this tangent was a big hint at the time piped.video/watch?v=wbZho5if…

Ironmouse talks about Magni and Vesper's graduation

YouTube@IronMouseParty Twitchhttps://www.twitch.tv/ironmouseMouse discusses Holostars Magni Dezmond & Vesper Noir graduation announcement.And if you feel lik...

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Not sure I buy that rrat, but Mouse's behavior in that video is definitely suspicious. Was Kuro really a flop? He seemed to be doing all right for himself.
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Replying to @MurrayShinaide
Mysta used to be the strongest male EN Vtuber in terms of CCV but as Kuro he could barely scrap 1K on Twitch, also failed his subathon. He was below pretty much every female member.

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Replying to @3rnoul @MurrayShinaide
He's still the most popular ex-corpo male though which explains why they gave up on Vshonen idea. Quinn said they've decided females would be more profitable, that's why he got ghosted. As Kyo he would get 1K CCV on the regular but after going indie it's closer to 200.
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Former holostar members are not exactly doing any better
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