It's pretty obvious that Magni and Vesper got poached by Vshojo, many people myself included speculated about this already 2 years ago. Gunrun wanted more males but Kuro flopped so hard they had to reconsider. this tangent was a big hint at the time piped.video/watch?v=wbZho5if…

Ironmouse talks about Magni and Vesper's graduation

YouTube@IronMouseParty Twitchhttps://www.twitch.tv/ironmouseMouse discusses Holostars Magni Dezmond & Vesper Noir graduation announcement.And if you feel lik...

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Notice how she talks about every single member that was approached by Vshojo other than Pomu who signed later through Matara. Hard to imagine she had no involvement in audition process. piped.video/watch?v=o202LMFY…

Ironmouse wonders what all her friends who graduated are going to do...

YouTube@IronMouseParty Twitchhttps://www.twitch.tv/ironmouseMousey talks about all the people she had on Speak of the Devil and she talks about all the recen...

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Anyway I believe it happened through Magni but Vesper probably wasn't exactly hard to convince. Perhaps they actually wanted to use Vshojo offer as leverage in their contract negotiations, that would explain this weird suspension.
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Timing of this whole thing was actually really bad, they lost a ton of $ on Vesper's redesign and Magni's update, they fucked over the anniversary if you wanted to blackmail the company that was the time.
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Not sure I buy that rrat, but Mouse's behavior in that video is definitely suspicious. Was Kuro really a flop? He seemed to be doing all right for himself.
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Mysta used to be the strongest male EN Vtuber in terms of CCV but as Kuro he could barely scrap 1K on Twitch, also failed his subathon. He was below pretty much every female member.
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All these talents they had were not getting paid yet IM has an insane amount of outfits which we know aren’t cheap. Where did all the money for those come from?
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IronMouse and Kson were the ringleaders of the Vshitshow mafia. They really did think they were gonna take on Hololive. I am happy my gut instincts about them turned out to be true.
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Just one reason why that company was never going to last. Imagine one of your big plays is going after these two retards. Hell, gunrun should have gone after all of them. Addition by subtraction for Cover and would have prevented them from wasting a lot more time/money later.
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