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Aug 14, 2025, 8:00 PM
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You know in the movies when an evil scientists takes a sample of the hero and creates a mutant clone of them? Well that's the position the Thursday Quiz is in. Martin is taking some well earned rest in his secret superhero base while this mutant clone of his quiz is wrapping it's tentacles around fifteen pieces of topical trivia:
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Aug 14, 2025, 8:07 PM
Welcome!
It's been a slow news week this week with not many fun stories.
And, having had more time this week, I've wasted it on fussing over which topics I should feature (I didn't manage to fit in one of the ones I really wanted) and the overall emotional flow rather than annoying silly things like spelling and grammar and basic linguistic coherence. I'll go to that now...
Aug 14, 2025, 9:16 PM
BTW I'd intended Apollo 13 to be the 13th question. But there wasn't a more positive one to end on.
Aug 14, 2025, 11:35 PM
Does writing the quiz feel a bit like spending days slaving over a hot stove to create a fabulous dinner, then watching resentfully as people wolf it down in seconds? Or am I projecting like mad here?
Aug 15, 2025, 1:57 AM
I suppose it could be worse; they could move the food around the plate, pretending to like it.
Aug 15, 2025, 4:49 AM
You‘ve just given me a flashback to an appallingly misjudged and badly executed dinner about 35 years ago!
Aug 15, 2025, 7:21 AM
I think most of us have been party to one of those :)
Aug 15, 2025, 12:28 AM
Scores
Here are the scores. Not too many mistakes this week, I hope.
Average: 9.3 (▼0.3)
Personal Bests: Mirren (11)
Aug 15, 2025, 4:48 AM
I’m going to enjoy being near the top of the list while it lasts! Thanks, user0, you star.
Aug 15, 2025, 7:23 AM
This week I got 11. Last week was 10. Is this list for last week?
Aug 15, 2025, 7:37 AM
Yup, it's the list for last week. This week's will appear next week.
Aug 14, 2025, 8:24 PM
10/15 [✅✅✅❌✅✅✅❌✅❌❌❌✅✅✅]
Double figures - not bad. Q4 was most unfair and none of the Jim Lovell quotes is strictly correct but we successfully picked the nearest :P
Aug 14, 2025, 8:46 PM
Wikipedia records Lovell's radio thus:
Swigert: We have a problem here
Mission Control: This is Houston, say again please.
Lovell: Houston, we've had a problem.
They did played the audio on the Today programme. But I didn't get it out and double-check myself.
I was going to be really mean and contrast what you think he said, with what he actually said. But there were enough mean questions already. And my style guide said the last one is easy.
Anyway, glad to see your not put off by last week!
Aug 15, 2025, 1:39 AM
I heard it, too, but on the BBC news website:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c2l7eedrywzo
Aug 14, 2025, 8:54 PM
According to the Graun, he actually did say "we've had a problem", not the oft-quoted "we have a problem"
Aug 14, 2025, 9:17 PM
👍
Aug 14, 2025, 8:52 PM
11/15 [✅❌❌❌✅✅✅❌✅✅✅✅✅✅✅]
In the end not as bad as last week.
I thought it was going that way at the beginning - I talked myself out of the right answer on all those I got wrong.
Then later on had a bit of luck with a pure guess on Q11 Shearer
Aug 14, 2025, 9:19 PM
I'd've definitely got 2,3 & 4 wrong, if I'd been playing. (And several of the others as well...)
I thought Q2 was particularly delicious - three plausible answers, any of which would have been interesting if true.
Aug 14, 2025, 11:05 PM
Q2 was my favourite! I loved all the answers and am delighted with the correct answer (which I guessed) but suspect I'd have been delighted if any of the others were correct too!
Aug 14, 2025, 8:52 PM
A reasonable 10/15 [✅❌✅❌✅❌✅❌✅✅❌✅✅✅✅] this week, thanks to some second-guessing myself. And the Gravelines problem was actually the water intake, not the thermal exhaust - Galen Erso had no part in the design programme. If you want to see the Gravelines plant, but don't have a passport, you can see it from Deal pier, on a clear day.
Chez Outski is happy today, despite housing shit going on, as the Outskit got the grades to get into his first choice university. Big yay for him, given all the disruption he's had in his life so far.
Aug 14, 2025, 9:03 PM
Congrats to Outski! (And I did think about a question about that. But I couldn't see how.)
I'm lumping it together under the rubric "cooling".
Aug 14, 2025, 11:08 PM
Congrats to the Outskit!
Aug 15, 2025, 3:05 AM
Congratulations Outskit 👏
Aug 15, 2025, 3:15 AM
Congratulations! 🎉🎉🎉
Aug 14, 2025, 8:58 PM
10/15 [✅✅✅❌✅✅✅❌❌❌✅❌✅✅✅]
Back to double figures for me, hooray. Helped by Agatha Christie knowledge and some actual news reading this week, unusual for me these days.
Greetings from Quebec, where I think our heatwave is over for now. Still in bed with a cuppa at the moment so haven't checked for myself yet.
Wishing a good week to all, and thanks as always user0.
Aug 15, 2025, 5:09 AM
I always feel guilty about complaining about how "hot" it is in Britain. But I follow an American on BlueSky and she's forever complaining about British heat; I think it's the humidity.
It felt awful here on Wednesday, better today (although still a bit muggy) and it's set to get worse again tomorrow. I hope it's now a more palatable temperature for you in Quebec, and also that you're out of bed!
Aug 15, 2025, 7:34 PM
Yesterday was beautiful. Quebec heat is humid heat. So the forecast is usually given as "32C, 40C with the humidex" or similar.
I think the range we've seen where we are now over the last decade is -34C to 36C on the thermometer. It keeps you on your toes!
But, that said, standing in front of a class of 30 teenage students as a maths teacher in late July in Derbyshire? Not sure what the thermometer read, but it felt hotter!
Aug 14, 2025, 9:00 PM
11/15 [✅✅✅❌✅❌✅✅✅❌✅❌✅✅✅]
I enjoyed that, thanks user0. Either my guessing has got better or it was easier than last week. I was expecting Great Yarmouth to come up, total Wally!
Aug 14, 2025, 9:25 PM
I'm glad it is proving easier this week. And there's no real pattern - some people are struggling on the first half, some are struggling later on - which suggests a good balance.
Wallyis another good Anglo-saxon word. And in early drafts, that Wally featured in about four answers...Aug 14, 2025, 9:10 PM
9/15 [✅❌❌❌❌❌✅❌✅✅✅✅✅✅✅]
Aug 14, 2025, 9:12 PM
Thank you for another fun quiz! Middling score as always...
Aug 14, 2025, 9:26 PM
Martin has dipped into here twice. And each time got nine. I'm a big niner on his quiz, too.
Aug 15, 2025, 4:50 AM
Oh, that sounds positive <3
Aug 14, 2025, 9:39 PM
First timer, and I scored 10. In The Real Thursday Quiz (TRTQ) I probably average around 8, so
* I have got smarter over the last few weeks or
* this quiz is easier or
* I was just lucky.
I don't think I am particularly luck so it must be one of the other two. Is it the first one? Is it? Please let it be the first one!
PS Thanks for scratching the itch :-)
Aug 15, 2025, 5:00 AM
Welcome! And well done - 10 is sounding like a solid score!
However, if I'm honest, I suspect this quiz is on the easier side. The current mean score is ~10 which means you're average. (Bad luck.) But check back next week to see the final results!
Aug 14, 2025, 9:43 PM
12/14... and thanks so much for this alternative to the Thursday Quiz.... I was going out of my mind
Aug 15, 2025, 5:03 AM
And thanks for playing. It's a lot of effort to produce. But everybody turning up and playing makes it seem worthwhile.
Aug 14, 2025, 9:43 PM
11/15 [✅✅✅❌✅❌✅✅✅❌✅❌✅✅✅]
This might be my all time best! As usual it was a combination of actually knowing the answer, dithering between two answers and not having a clue what the answer is! Note to self - read the complete article because user0 will ask something from the second half of it! Many thanks for the quiz!
Aug 15, 2025, 5:05 AM
I hadn't noticed that I pick second-half facts. But you might be right. I like things that are story-adjacent; oddball facts that me go, "that's quite interesting; I didn't know that."
Aug 14, 2025, 9:57 PM
10/15 [✅✅✅❌✅❌✅❌✅❌✅✅✅❌✅]
Double figures! Always nice to get. That Alan Shearer one had me scratching my head to try and understand what you were on about. But I took my time, reread it and finally got it. Lucky thing the murdered man's name was still vaguely familiar from me watching of the newer version of the film a few months ago.
Aug 14, 2025, 10:12 PM
Okay, I've broken that question into separate paragraphs to make it more obvious where the real question begins. And I've had a go at clarifying the question. (I've also rewritten the answer.)
And, yes, I consciously chose one where, if you could remember the plot, you could deduce it without remembering the map. Well done for getting it!
Aug 14, 2025, 10:44 PM
I'm back in the room with 11/15 which I wish I'd get more often in Martin's version.
I see people are telling you which ones they got right and wrong, should I do that too, user0?
Aug 14, 2025, 11:32 PM
If you remember to sign in before you do the quiz (which I’m only now managing to do) your score is automatically entered in the comment box, because user0 is MAGIC.
Aug 15, 2025, 2:53 AM
It's up to you. Geekgirlrules collates them for me. And we use them to see how we did as a group, and compare them to my estimates.
Aug 15, 2025, 4:20 AM
Ok. The ones I didn't get were 3, 6, 8 and 10.
Aug 14, 2025, 10:54 PM
7/15 [✅❌✅❌❌✅✅❌✅❌❌❌✅❌✅]
Aug 14, 2025, 11:07 PM
8/15 [✅✅✅❌✅❌✅❌✅❌❌❌❌✅✅]
8/15 - could do better, but still had loads of fun. Great Qs, naughty answers, love love love it, thanks User0.
Hope Reg is doing well, please pass on my regards.
Aug 15, 2025, 5:01 AM
I've got quite a funny Reg joke for when we get back to Martin producing the quiz...
Aug 14, 2025, 11:28 PM
11/15 [✅✅❌✅✅❌✅❌❌✅✅✅✅✅✅]
Sod spelling and grammar. I’m just happy there’s a quiz on Thursdays, restoring routine in the thick of the Guardian’s changearounds. You and Tim Dowling are the pivots around which my week is based. (That’s the thing about being freelance; sometimes I don’t notice it’s Sunday till I try to go shopping and everything’s closed.)
Another very enjoyable quiz. I’d missed the Maple story, had a lucky guess with the Orient Express and automatically chose the moon bear because, well, moon bears. Tip-top marks to you (and a gold star for emotional flow).
Aug 15, 2025, 1:54 AM
Please enlighten me, MM, where is the moon bear?
I've been back up and down the quiz twice and still can't find it.
P'raps it's code between you and User0 for "Meet me under the Eiffel Tower at 10 o'clock on Sunday".*
* Not a good idea, there'd be too many tourists ;-)
Aug 15, 2025, 2:48 AM
They're exiting, stage left, pursuing Asian Hornets.
Aug 15, 2025, 3:37 AM
And pulled along by naughty miniature dachshunds?
Thank you for the update.
Aug 15, 2025, 4:55 AM
It was well hidden! Unlike the Asian hornets, which are quite noticeable.
The Eiffel Tower meeting-point would work if one of us was dressed as a moon bear. Or indeed an Asian hornet. Or, at a pinch, the Eiffel Tower.
Aug 15, 2025, 5:02 AM
Not really.
I was going to mention a particular nation, but rather will just say that any very daft tourists - moonstruck (by bears, geddit?!) - would meet at you instead ...
Aug 15, 2025, 5:24 AM
We have Asian hornets here; I once left the grapes on my vine too long as they were green ones and I didn't realise they were ripe until too late and a swarm of Asian hornets had homed in on them. It was quite frightening, but I took great pleasure, sadist that I am, in chopping a few in half where their top and bottom halves are so narrow.
Even after the update, I didn't see the moon bear reference; I still thought it was a code, but I've just found it. Weyhey! It just shows how badly I read things.
Aug 15, 2025, 12:08 AM
Many thanks again to user0 for an excellent and entertaining quiz. Keep up the good work - it is appreciated.
11/15 BTW.
Aug 15, 2025, 12:17 AM
A tricky one - 8 out of 15. User0 - had to follow your instructions and create new account as I couldn't re-set password. Can you please merge this with my original account, BicycleBelle. Cheers for that...and for keeping the Thursday quiz going.
Aug 15, 2025, 1:36 AM
I know the feeling, BicycleBelle a.k.a Bikeride, and I sympathise, having been having the same problem.
Aug 15, 2025, 1:18 AM
12/15 [✅✅✅❌✅❌✅✅✅✅✅❌✅✅✅]
I have a Blue Peter badge. Way before wearing it gave you free entry into things.
Aug 15, 2025, 7:39 AM
I once had a badge, as well. If it gave you free entry, I never used it.
Aug 15, 2025, 1:22 AM
8/15 today. Thanks for another healthy dose of Thursday entertainment!
Aug 15, 2025, 1:32 AM
15/15 [✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅]
And I got it wrong the other week - the quote, I mean! I've always believed it was "Houston, we have a problem", not "we've had". It's never too late to learn, obviously. What did Forrest Gump say in the film of him bringing the spaceship back to Earth; did he get it right?
Keep up the good work, User0
Aug 15, 2025, 1:34 AM
Citronjaune is still me, ScurryingCitrus. I was still logged in this week. I will never understand computers. Ever.
Aug 15, 2025, 6:41 AM
Check back tomorrow evening. Since you're following the markdown discussion I'll try and pitch an explanation of logins at that level. But I've not got time, now.
Aug 15, 2025, 1:53 AM
11/15 and then I signed in :)
Hope you all are doing ok, all things considered. There does seem to be a LOT of bad news these days so good luck finding the good stuff.
Good job too by the Britishers protesting against number 2.
Aug 15, 2025, 2:56 AM
11/15 [✅❌✅✅✅❌✅❌✅✅✅✅✅❌✅]
I love jellyfish terrorists!
Aug 15, 2025, 5:10 AM
I like it when I can make the real answer sound like one I made up as a silly joke...
)Also, the jellyfish are in league with the cows...)
Aug 15, 2025, 3:00 AM
9/15 [✅✅✅❌✅❌❌❌✅❌❌✅✅✅✅]
The last time I watched Murder on the Orient Express was Christmas Day. I think. Possibly it was Christmas Eve or New Year's Day? Anyway, too much wine had been consumed for me to take any note of the <em>carriage layout</em>!
Aug 15, 2025, 3:02 AM
No HTML?? How did @Citronjaune get bold text?
Aug 15, 2025, 3:40 AM
Put a star (*) at either end of the word you want to be in bold. (I was actually trying for Italics, but don't tell anyone)
Aug 15, 2025, 3:50 AM
Thank you 🙏 Now I just need to remember that for next week!
Aug 15, 2025, 4:01 AM
After testing, it's some kind of markdown.
Add one (or two) underscores before and after the word for italic text, for bold text do the same but with asterisks!
Aug 15, 2025, 4:38 AM
Most of you
It is markdown-ish. (It even says that in the small-print.)
My plan, going forward, is that text "bracketed" in double underscores will be italic (e.g.
__italic__) and text bracketed in double asterisks will be bold (e.g.**bold**). (And, yes, backticks also work.)Motivation
• HTML is a security disaster waiting to happen.
• HTML is also a pain to do from a phone.
So no HTML.
• WhatsApp displays text bracketed in asterisks as bold and text bracketed in underscores as italic. (Try it, and amaze your friends!)
• However people are accidentally writing stuff in bold when they meant to use asterisks conversationally to indicate actions or sounds. (And I've got zero chance of explaining escaping, which doesn't currently work anyway...)
Therefore I'm not planning to use markdown's single bracketing for italic and double bracketing for bold. Instead, as outlined above, it will be double-bracketing following the WhatsApp convention. (But IIRC it uses the CommonMark rules for deciding which underscores and asterisks count.)
When this change will happen, I don't know...
(Fundamentally, I think John Gruber got the call for italic/bold wrong. Asterisks as bold, underscores as underlined, and forward slashes as italic is the convention I grew up with. I can live with the Whatsapp convention. But Gruber's choice irks me after many years of using it. And I get to make the rules here!)
Me and GeekGirlRules
We have access to a more powerful and more fragile markdown implementation which gives us headings and tables. (We'd have lists, too, except the formatter doesn't implement them so if you include them the comment gets kicked back to plaintext. Grrr...)
If it becomes stable, you will all get these features. And they do follow the CommonMark spec closely. But I thought me and GeekGirl could both benefit from tables. And then rest came for free.
Aug 15, 2025, 5:07 AM
I thought his name was Hans Grüber?
I don't care about anything from phones; I haven't got one!
Thank you for telling me / us about how to do Italics. I'll try and fit some in next week.
Aug 15, 2025, 5:22 AM
Excellent, thanks for the clarification!
Aug 15, 2025, 3:06 AM
8/15 [✅❌❌❌✅❌✅❌✅❌✅❌✅✅✅]
Made it!
Aug 15, 2025, 4:51 AM
Well done!
Aug 15, 2025, 3:08 AM
6/15 [✅❌❌❌❌✅✅❌✅❌❌✅❌❌✅]
Really, it is a wonder that you are giving us this Ersatz Thursday Quiz at all.
And it is even better how you are doing it, what with all the humourous (and often despairing) political and satirical undercurrent (if it even is an 'undercurrent,' and not an 'overcurrent).
I get worse results on your quiz than on Martin's original one, mainly due to a certain lack of European history and literature questions, but I find your Thursday Quiz far more amusing. More sharp-ish.
Aug 15, 2025, 3:26 AM
Also, Mr Martin Belam, if you are reading this: I went through a very dark and difficult phase in my life this year, and for a long while it was only my knowledge that your Thursday Quiz would appear regularly and predictably on every Thursday at eleven o'clock that sustained me in my fight against depression, for I knew that your Quiz alone would be the one and only occasion, once a week, to make me smile while on every other day I had lost the will to live.
I do not know you, nor do I know what you are going through at this moment. But, please, do not feel under-appreciated. Your 'silly quiz' once saved a life. - I would wish something similar to you in return.
Aug 15, 2025, 3:41 AM
Please, Green Twilek, how do you make a word go into Italics?
Aug 15, 2025, 4:26 AM
I replied to @geekgirlrules elsewhere, but it's some flavour of markdown. Add one (or two) underscores before and after the word for italic text, for bold text do the same but with asterisks!
Aug 15, 2025, 3:55 AM
Beautifully put, @GreenTwilek, and most definitely seconded by me. And I'm sure by many of us here.
Aug 15, 2025, 4:59 AM
Absolutely, all good wishes thirded, fourthed and fifthed. Lovely second post, GT, and glad that you‘re with us.
Aug 15, 2025, 5:12 AM
Thank you both (happy face) I read it above, and commented.
I am so ignorant about computers, and happy to be (while I can get the brats to correct my mistakes, that I had to look up "markdown", which is - highly logically - explained as "a markup language" Duh!
Oooh, look, I've caught on already.
Aug 15, 2025, 3:09 AM
15/15 [✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅]
As it happens, MrsFF and i have only just finished watching all the David Suchet Poirot episodes, having first watched all the film versions worth bothering with (Albert Finney, Peter Ustinov, and Kenneth Branagh, who was better than i was expecting. And that was after we'd watched all the Joan Hickson Miss Marple episodes, plus the remakes where Geraldine McEwan regenerates into Julia McKenzie off screen about halfway through, and quite a few of which weren't Miss Marple books at all. Still, that's ITV for you i suppose. Anyway, we watched three versions of Murder on the Orient Express quite recently, so that question was particularly easy.
Also, i am detecting a definite tilt towards science-based (or at least science-adjacent) questions in this version of the Quiz, which is certainly giving me no cause to complain, so i won't.
And the Alaska Purchase was a pretty good deal for America. But then of course, in those days, they elected presidents who could add up, weren't convicted sex pests, hadn't run a fake university, nor bankrupted any casinos. And Andrew Johnson was still one of the worst US presidents ever - but not THE worst.
Happy Thursday everyone!
Aug 15, 2025, 3:48 AM
The Louisiana was a damn good purchase for America, too.
So many people think it was just what is now the state of Louisiana, but it was so much more than that, and pretty cheap at the price. It was a sad day for the native Indians who lived in the (unexplored-and-exploited) parts of middle America which were included.
Aug 15, 2025, 5:17 AM
I'm well aware of my science/geek bias and am constantly straining to pull myself away from it. But, well, y'know, I could ask a boring geography question, or I could ask about something INTERESTING...
(I was hoping to drop the one about the radioactive leak, but I couldn't make the one about the fringe jokes work in the time I had left. It had a great punch-line, too. Although, thinking about it, the punchline was also deeply geeky...
*sigh*)Aug 15, 2025, 6:20 PM
As i said, i'm not complaining in the slightest - i like interesting questions, although i'm not averse to geographical ones either.
And i remain in awe at the scope and magnitude of your efforts - i'm reminded of Trillian's remark in the Hitchhiker's Guide when Arthur unexpectedly encounters her aboard the Heart of Gold and asks what she's doing there: 'Well, with a degree in maths, and another in astrophysics, it was either this, or back to the dole queue on Monday'. Or something very similar; i'm going from memory here.
And funny that you put in two about Christie right now though, given our recent viewing fest :-)
Aug 15, 2025, 6:21 PM
Oh goody, that worked; let's try --italics-- now too.
Aug 15, 2025, 6:21 PM
No - bugger!
Aug 15, 2025, 6:42 PM
Maybe -italics- will work?
Aug 15, 2025, 6:44 PM
Or am i just an idiot who can't read properly? Maybe this will work?
Aug 15, 2025, 6:44 PM
Yay!
Aug 15, 2025, 3:53 AM
13/15 [✅✅✅❌✅✅✅✅✅✅❌✅✅✅✅]
Blind guesses on Q3 and Q11. Q4 I should have read properly; wasn't mean to include that, it was nice and tricksy!
Thanks once again for a great quiz. Q13 title made me smile, and nice references in the Q15 options.
Aug 15, 2025, 5:12 AM
In Q15, you nearly had the Alien tagline as well. But I thought I ought to do a more obvious joke.
Aug 15, 2025, 3:57 AM
Updated stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h2zZr0RANCVQW_VOWAuOzy0uBWXFhalE-ctbW8YtBV8/edit?gid=0#gid=0
We all love the adventures of Mr Benn, less so the adventures of JD!
Aug 15, 2025, 4:46 AM
Thanks for this. Maybe I made the first and last too much of a give away. (I did think of "wizard" as an alternative for the first.) One or two surprises in there. But I'm definitely getting better at predicting...
Aug 15, 2025, 4:34 AM
8/15 [✅❌❌❌❌✅✅❌✅❌❌✅✅✅✅]
Well, I still had fun. ut now the daddy's come to take the T-bird away.
Aug 15, 2025, 6:23 AM
6/15 [✅❌✅❌❌❌✅❌✅❌❌❌✅❌✅]
Rubbish. I got 8 last week.
Aug 15, 2025, 6:40 AM
10/15 [✅❌✅❌✅❌✅❌✅✅✅❌✅✅✅]
That Charlbury question was a mean one! Great quiz though - thanks.
Aug 15, 2025, 6:57 PM
But there had been lots of "gifts". I felt that earned me a few tricksier answers.
Aug 15, 2025, 8:07 AM
10/15 [✅✅✅❌✅✅✅❌✅❌✅❌✅❌✅]
Answer to question 14 will determine if you are an optimist or a pessimist. Clearly I am a pessimist...
Thanks again for a great quiz, thoroughly enjoyed this one (as I always do!)
Quick question, how does the scoring work? Do I have to submit my answers by a certain time?
Aug 15, 2025, 6:56 PM
Q14: Of course, it could be that people have heard the news story... 😉 But, joking aside, I think you're right; if you are cynical about it all, you'll pick the pessimistic option.
I originally intended to use that optimism for the final question. (I like to end with a bit of hope.) But then I found the Lovell quote, which seemed lovely.
Scoring: sometime after I've released the quiz, I tot up all the scores for the previous week and publish them.
Aug 15, 2025, 6:00 PM
12/15. I'm not good with invertebrates.
Aug 15, 2025, 6:01 PM
11/15 [✅❌✅❌✅❌✅✅✅❌✅✅✅✅✅]
Very surprised to score this high. I was expecting the usual 7, maybe even 8. Must be the absence of feral hogs.