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i actually feel bad for indians because of this
▶ №1894069[Quote]>>1894073
>>1894065 (OP)Indians are genetic trash when it comes to males
Short, ugly phenotype, horrible frames, skinnyfat from epigentic famine protection, some of the lowest muscle mass and strength and just generally low T with poor bone structure
its for the best that they are bred out
▶ №1894073[Quote]>>1894079
>>1894069i unironically think if you're born as an indian male that you should get some sort of reparations
▶ №1894074[Quote]>>1894084
south indians are especially ugly, they have the gross sub saharan eye thing with the charcoal raisinskin due to more SSA admixture and shit the most in the open
▶ №1894079[Quote]>>1894083
>>1894073This is cucked as hell
If you're born an indian amale you should be sterilised if not euthanised
▶ №1894083[Quote]>>1894089
>>1894079it's not their fault they were born like that nigga?
▶ №1894084[Quote]>>1894091
>>1894074Please dont make the
>saar we northern brahmin are actually aryan saar nothing like those southern dalits saarargument
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yes they should be sterilised but they should get something in return
▶ №1894089[Quote]>>1894096
>>1894083So why the fuck should I have to subsidise their existence when they never should have existed?
Inequality is not wrong or unjust, it is the way of the world. Ugliness is an affront on nature and genetic trash is rightfully filtered out of gene pools because nature craves perfection. When we eliminate such mechanisms and make these people feel entitled and empowered you get problems
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>>1894084I'm not but they ae just uglier than even Kushitic nogs
▶ №1894096[Quote]>>1894101>>1894105>>1894106
>>1894089that's not fair though, they did not choose to be born as an indian male. what if you were born as an indian guy? i doubt you'd be saying that. this world would be better if we were equal
▶ №1894101[Quote]>>1894122
>>1894096No it would not. If everyone was equal there would be no beauty. There would be mediocrity everywhere. No exceptionalism. No contrast. No depth
Equality is not righteous; christian morality psyoped the poor into believing this.
▶ №1894105[Quote]>>1894122
>>1894096Nobody really wants equality they want to be the best. If you could chose a truly egalitarian society or to be a gigachad you'd be a fool to not pick the latter
▶ №1894106[Quote]>>1894122
>>1894096Also foids didnt chose to be born foids but you hate them for it and you don't want equality for them
▶ №1894122[Quote]>>1894129
>>1894106well foids are different, i resent them because they won the genetic lottery, they are the opposite of equality
>>1894101good, lol
>>1894105i would pick the former in a heartbeat because i guess i'm not a narcisstic sociopath?
▶ №1894129[Quote]>>1894137
>>1894122You're in the minority then and honestly not having a drive and will for personal power is very low T behaviour thats the kind of choice a foid would make
it seems that more than anything else you abhor the strong and love the weak
you think of the weak, the ugly, the downtrodden as somehow righteous, and the fortunate as abhorrent
antithetical to a beautiful, functional and prosperous society
▶ №1894137[Quote]>>1894144
>>1894129how is this a decision a foid would make? foids would instantly choose to have more SMV than have such a society, they are incredibly vain?
and yes, i hate those who win the genetic lottery, and i do love the people i share my suffering with
and society is not beautiful
▶ №1894144[Quote]>>1894153
>>1894137no lol, i know foids a lot better than you
there's a reason they're obsessed with leftist egalitarian politics and they're all anti-racist anti-homophobic etc
men are much more individualistic and less egalitarian
▶ №1894147[Quote]>>1894153
>>1894142
cuckjeet is obviously the pink one
(blue is a high T man colour and pink is for sissies like him, or something)
▶ №1894153[Quote]>>1894176
>>1894144it's called virtue signalling nigga, if you knew foids better than me you'd know this. they do it because it's what's culturally vogue
>>1894147i'm high T as fuck nigga we went over this
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also blue is gay
▶ №1894176[Quote]>>1894186>>1894195
>>1894153No you're not we went over this i literally had this argument with you
Low T signifiers:
<lower than normal body hair<inability to grow proper beard<feminine, small hands and feet and wrists<female digit ratios<feminine frame. v narrow shoulders, wide pelvis<fat<high inhib<egalitarian, spiritually leftist<weak, poor gym progressHigh T traits
<apparently has some body hair (no proof + you'd have to have literally no T not to)<big penis(?) (some correlation with test)<tall (weak correlation with test) ▶ №1894183[Quote]
also ugly face usually means poor bonemass = low t
▶ №1894186[Quote]>>1894207
>>1894176actually obsessed
▶ №1894190[Quote]>>1894201
go find me a nigga with low T and body hair
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back hair*
▶ №1894195[Quote]>>1894202
>>1894176Penis size doesnt correlate to high T usually
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Erections do
▶ №1894201[Quote]>>1894206
>>1894190i dont think you understand that men who are above the age of 18 and arent castrated literally all have some hair
even women do
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>>1894195it correlates to DHT which correlates to test
▶ №1894206[Quote]>>1894210
>>1894201ok do white foids have back hair nigga?
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>>1894186you keep saying otherwise im just proving yo0u wrong
also forgot to add
<low libido ▶ №1894210[Quote]
>>1894206some have a little bit
and low t men definitely still can
and if you count mediterranean as white then yes absolutely
▶ №1894215[Quote]>>1894222
whatever nigga i don't care
▶ №1894222[Quote]>>1894225
>>1894215you should care because once you admit you have low T to yourself you can bite the bullet and go on TRT (or just go on supraphysiological doses and start roiding)
not even for your looks but for your motivation and personality
you'll become a lot more confident and masculine
and i'm not saying that in a bluepilled way it probably wont get you laid but you'll feel better
▶ №1894225[Quote]>>1894227
>>1894222i'm not going on test nigga what if i start balding
▶ №1894227[Quote]>>1894231
>>1894225no hair for your face
just take dutasteride on cycle
▶ №1894231[Quote]>>1894236
>>1894227what if it doesn't work also my face is already fucked lol if i go on test for muh face i'll just get acne and age maxxed
▶ №1894236[Quote]>>1894239
>>1894231You arent doing it for your face
You're a trucel, your face and hair dont matter woman are revulsed by you
Might as well go on test for YOU
▶ №1894239[Quote]>>1894244
>>1894236ok but i'm not low T, i said i don't care because i don't want to argue about it
▶ №1894240[Quote]>>1894250
+ just take accutane on cycle
most bodybuilders dont have bad acne and nuke it w accutane
▶ №1894244[Quote]>>1894250
>>1894239you are
i would bet you L100 that if you got a test you're below 400ng/dl
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Claiming to be high T whilst knowing otherwise is a cope btw
bluepilled behaviour
▶ №1894249[Quote]>>1894252
If you were actually BP'd you'd accept your faults and either blame them for stuff (like why you're cripplingly high inhib and ugly) or work to fix themh
▶ №1894250[Quote]>>1894254
>>1894240YOU were telling me to NOT buy fucking accutane
>>1894244go buy me a test then nigga i'm pretty sure you can buy tests
▶ №1894252[Quote]>>1894255
>>1894249ok, and i already have accepted my faults (my face), stop calling me bluepilled
▶ №1894254[Quote]>>1894256
>>1894250dont go on accutane NOW
if you go on test go on accutane because your acne might actually blow up
you have mild acne. but on test you might not
same with fin/dut. dont bother now but do if if you hop on
▶ №1894255[Quote]>>1894258
>>1894252you aren't accepting your low T as a fault or trying to remedy it you're coping
▶ №1894256[Quote]>>1894261
>>1894254nigga there's no point on going dut after you start balding? you want to do it before you start balding?
▶ №1894258[Quote]>>1894266
>>1894255because i'm not low T nigga, i'm hairy, i'm tall, i have a big dick, i don't have gyno
▶ №1894261[Quote]>>1894270
>>1894256no you hop on when you start norwooding but still have an intact hairline
doing so before is side effects for no reason
▶ №1894266[Quote]>>1894270
>>1894258gyno is about estrogen (coorelated with high t actually) not test
you aren't hairy i've seen your hand and wrist. you have below avg hair for a male
height is very weakly correlated with test its genetics + hgh/igf-1 levels
big dick is weak correlation, mostly genetic
also girth iirc is more related
▶ №1894270[Quote]>>1894273
>>1894261duta either has no side effects or it has all of them, if you have no side effects from it, you have no reason to not be on it
>>1894266i told you my camera doesn't pick up the hair very well didn't i? also obviously height is correlated to testosterone as if i were a foid i'd be a lot shorter lol
▶ №1894273[Quote]>>1894274
>>1894270i probably have the same camera quality as you and mine does pick up hair and i'd say i'm not all that hairy just avg
lemme find the studies on heioght and testosterone its a weak correlation
foid/moid height dimorphism is due to genetics firstand foremost
in fact castrated men grow to be taller. google the castrati
▶ №1894274[Quote]>>1894275
>>1894273i'm taking it with my SELFIE camera because the back camera is fucked
▶ №1894277[Quote]>>1894278
>>1894275NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAA
▶ №1894278[Quote]>>1894280
>>1894277tfym
if you have any SIGNIFICANT hair density it will be visible
▶ №1894280[Quote]>>1894285
>>1894278it's not super dense but it's there
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me
▶ №1894285[Quote]>>1894286
>>1894280you have none on your hand and like a spec on your wrist
take one in good lighting
▶ №1894286[Quote]>>1894293
>>1894285i literally did take it in good lighting, i am telling you my camera does not pick it up
▶ №1894291[Quote]>>1894294
>Short answer: in adult men, height and baseline testosterone are basically unrelated.
>Large-ish cross-sectional work finds no meaningful link between adult stature and resting T; one study even found height didn't predict baseline T at all, only the exercise-induced T bump (taller guys had a bigger acute response, but their resting T wasn't higher).
ScienceDirect
>When height is thrown into models with waist size, any "height effect" is tiny. What actually tracks with testosterone is adiposity (esp. abdominal). In older men, every extra 10 cm of waist was associated with about a 7% lower total T; waist-to-height ratio was the strongest anthropometric predictor-not height itself.
PMC
>Why people get this mixed up:
>During puberty, androgens (via aromatization to estrogen) drive the growth spurt and eventually fuse growth plates. More/earlier sex-steroid exposure > earlier, faster spurt but earlier fusion (often slightly shorter final height for a given genetic potential). Low sex steroids do the opposite: delayed fusion, long limbs ("eunuchoid" proportions), and sometimes extra height-seen in hypogonadism and aromatase/estrogen-receptor defects.
PMC+1NCBI
>Bottom line
>Among grown men, being 6'3'' doesn't buy you extra nanomoles of testosterone.
>If you care about T, target the levers that actually move it: lose central fat / shrink waist, sleep, manage illness/meds-not your height. PubMedPMC
▶ №1894293[Quote]>>1894295
>>1894286then you have little to no hair. i dont have that much and it picks up easily
▶ №1894294[Quote]>>1894296
>>1894291my waist isn't that bad though
▶ №1894295[Quote]>>1894298
>>1894293it's because i have light skin
▶ №1894296[Quote]>>1894300
>>1894294when it talks about waist its basically saying are you fat
whats your waist circumference though
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>>1894295brother i am ethnically irish i am probably lighter than you in the winter
▶ №1894300[Quote]>>1894302
>>1894296i can't measure my waist circumference at the moment because i don't have tape
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>>1894300what is your jean size
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or trousers or anything that doesnt just use M/S/L etc
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just get out a pair and check
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oh nigga you are not getting that out of me i will die first
▶ №1894309[Quote]>>1894313>>1894318
also i don't see what that has to do with waist
▶ №1894313[Quote]>>1894318>>1894321
>>1894309.. your jeans are fitted to the size of your waist, for the most part, its the same question
▶ №1894315[Quote]>>1894318
like i'm lean and have a small waist
i genuinely have like a 28" waist when i'm properly lean and i'm an inch shorter than you which is blessed genetically
maybe 30" now because i need to cut
▶ №1894321[Quote]>>1894325>>1894333
>>1894313my jeans sit on my hips
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>>1894321britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894333[Quote]>>1894336>>1894349
>>1894321sizes are still based on waist size and assume normal proportions if you have really wide hips it might be a bit off
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>>1894333britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894349[Quote]>>1894355>>1894357
>>1894333yes i have a huge ass and hips so it is going to be off, if i bring my jeans up to my waist they'll just fall down, so it really has nothing to do with waist
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>>1894349dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894357[Quote]>>1894360>>1894361
>>1894349>huge assgeeeg
how are you genuinely built like a woman
if you weren't 6"3" trooning out would probably unironically ascend you
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>>1894357britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894361[Quote]>>1894366>>1894371
>>1894357because i am FAT and i need ASS MUSCLE to walk around
▶ №1894364[Quote]>>1894366
and a lot of my fat goes down
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>>1894364>>1894361britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894371[Quote]>>1894375>>1894386
>>1894361idk how fat you are but when i was fat i still had a small ass
the important thing there though is that your waist must be much smaller than your hips which is incredibly female
ideal male ratio is 1:1
hip to waist ratio is the female version of shoulder to waist in that higher = more dimorphic
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>>1894371britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894379[Quote]>>1894385>>1894386
what is your bmi out of interest
like are you a little fat or a braphog
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>>1894379dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894386[Quote]>>1894388>>1894395
>>1894371my waist is a lot smaller than my hips yes
>>1894379lower than 30
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>>1894386britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894395[Quote]>>1894397>>1894406
>>1894386which means you have very feminine skeletal structure
hell if you manage that whilst you're fat its absurdly feminine, if you were lean its just bone but you also have foid fat distribution (= high estrogen/low test)
>>1894386so i'm guessing 28-29
so pretty fat but not american fat
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>>1894395dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894402[Quote]>>1894405
so you're like 100kg assuming avg muscle mass
maybe less because below avg muscle + small frame
90ish kg?
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>>1894402britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894406[Quote]>>1894411>>1894412
>>1894395ok nigga we've been over this there is no need to rub it in my face. also i'm clearly not high estrogen or i'd have gyno
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>>1894406dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894412[Quote]>>1894414>>1894415
>>1894406gyno has a genetic component its not just high estrogen
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>>1894412britain lost
Iceland wins
▶ №1894415[Quote]>>1894418>>1894421
>>1894412none of the foids in my extended family are flat chested
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>>1894415dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894421[Quote]>>1894425>>1894429
>>1894415its not big tit women + gyno men dumbass its other genes
mainly estrogen receptor strength in the breasts
▶ №1894425[Quote]>>1894429
>>1894421yes, and that would be linked to having big tits nigga
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>>1894421>>1894425britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894430[Quote]>>1894435>>1894436
if the women in your family have large breasts, are the men more prone to gyno?
Generally, no. Female breast size is polygenic and also tracks with BMI; GWAS hits (e.g., near ESR1 and PTHLH) don't establish a link to male gynecomastia in relatives. In plain English: big-busted aunties do not usually predict gyno in the nephews.
BioMed Central
PubMed
The one big exception: aromatase excess families-there, both sexes can show the phenotype (girls/women with macromastia, boys/men with early or persistent gyno). Again, this is rare.
PMC
+1
Context that matters more than genetics (for most people)
Puberty: transient gyno affects ~50-60% of boys and usually regresses; persistence beyond late adolescence is when you look deeper.
Pediatric Endocrinology Journal
Drugs & hormones: anabolic-aromatizing steroids, testosterone without adequate estrogen control, finasteride/dutasteride, spironolactone, some psych meds, and others. The mechanism is shifting the androgen/estrogen balance or direct estrogenic effects. (General review.)
NCBI
Wiley Online Library
Bodyfat: more adipose > more aromatase activity > more estradiol in situ (not "genetic gyno," but strongly heritable via obesity risk).
▶ №1894434[Quote]>>1894441
oh yeah fin/dut can give you gyno btw maybe dont hop on unless you need to
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>>1894430britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894436[Quote]>>1894438>>1894442
>>1894430stop posting chatgpt nigga it obviously means in normal men with normal hormones
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>>1894436dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894441[Quote]>>1894445>>1894447
>>1894434i'd rather have gyno than bald tbh, i actually don't really get why people complain about it but i guess that's easy for me to say since i already have fat moobs, though everytime i see people complaining about it it's never like anything substantial? like i can't tell?
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>>1894436you'll never make me hate chadgpt
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>>1894442>>1894441britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894447[Quote]>>1894449>>1894452
>>1894441>fat moobsare you aware that this IS gyno?
especially below 30 bmi
▶ №1894449[Quote]>>1894455
>>1894447that's not gyno retard it's called being fat
▶ №1894450[Quote]>>1894461
i was like bmi 27-28 at the most and had almost zero moobs
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>>1894447britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894455[Quote]>>1894458>>1894461
>>1894449breast tissue nigga
fat is estrogenic, causes you to store further fat as breast tissue
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>>1894455britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894460[Quote]>>1894463>>1894464
i know you'd never post it but i bet 50/50 that if you posted your moobs that youd have visible gyno
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>>1894450fake
>>1894455it's not breast tissue it is literally fat are you retarded
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>>1894461>>1894460dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894466[Quote]>>1894469>>1894476
>>1894461not fake geg
it IS fat thats what boobs are its just men do not normally store much fat there under optimal conditions
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>>1894466>>1894469dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894481[Quote]>>1894483>>1894486
>>1894469ewww why tf did you make me look at those moobs
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like, it's not gyno, because there's no permanent fat or breast tissue there, when i lose my weight it goes back to being nice and flat
>>1894481because you're being a faggot
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>>1894481britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894488[Quote]>>1894508
also notice how those are moobs because they're like totally fat there's no breast tissue or anything
▶ №1894502[Quote]>>1894508>>1894509
whatever
you probably have comorbid gyno if you're fat, fat drives aromatase activity
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>>1894502>>1894488dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894509[Quote]>>1894515>>1894531
>>1894502no because i would fucking notice it, gyno is very rare, and even if i do have gyno it would be very minor since i can look in the mirror and see that i do not have breasts
▶ №1894512[Quote]>>1894515
like the second i lose all this weight i no longer have moobs
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>>1894512>>1894509dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894525[Quote]>>1894529>>1894545
also i will never forget you telling me to troon out to ascend btw
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>>1894525britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894531[Quote]>>1894541
>>1894509gyno is not rare at all like more than half of all teenagers get it and a substantial amount of adult men have it
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if you were fat as a kid you almost certainly had it if not still have it
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>>1894531>>1894537if everyone has gyno why would i care about it? and i don't because you can tell if you have gyno by feeling on your nipple
▶ №1894545[Quote]>>1894550>>1894565
>>1894525i didnt say you SHOULD
i said if you were short it unironically would because you have an ideal foid frame
most troons would be seething with jealousy i always hear about massive, broad shouldered guys trooning out and not passing at all
▶ №1894548[Quote]>>1894565
>>1894541why do you only think in hyperbole
▶ №1894550[Quote]>>1894576
>>1894537>>1894545>>1894541dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894555[Quote]>>1894565>>1894585
i said its not rare
its still a failo and its just ugly and effeminate
▶ №1894565[Quote]>>1894585>>1894604
>>1894555it's not effeminate, foids like pecs
>>1894548you still can check gyno by feeling your nipple for a lump and to nobody's surprise there is no lump because i don't have gyno and am just FAT
>>1894545whatever
▶ №1894576[Quote]>>1894582>>1894586
>>1894550I respect the dedication
▶ №1894582[Quote]>>1894592
>>1894576how about… marge
Iceland won
▶ №1894585[Quote]>>1894592
>>1894565>>1894555britain lost
Iceland won
▶ №1894586[Quote]>>1894590
>>1894576it's a script we think
▶ №1894592[Quote]>>1894597
>>1894582>>1894585see what i mean when i say script? it posted super fast there
▶ №1894596[Quote]>>1894598>>1894606
>>1894590ok i know you're like a human behind the screen but i can also think you're using a script to help you post faster across many threads
▶ №1894597[Quote]>>1894599
>>1894592how about… im fast
Iceland won
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>>1894596how about… eternal meds
Iceland won
▶ №1894599[Quote]>>1894605
>>1894597because you're using a script
anyway that's enough attention for you
▶ №1894604[Quote]>>1894608>>1894610>>1894611
>>1894565dumbass
pecs/gyno
i have pecs and for a while as a kid i had gyno they are not remotely similar
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>>1894599how about… im not doe
Iceland won
▶ №1894606[Quote]>>1894611>>1894613
>>1894596its 100% a macro/script
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>>1894604dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894610[Quote]>>1894616>>1894617
>>1894604pecs NOT equal idk why it filters the sign
▶ №1894611[Quote]>>1894617
>>1894604well none of this matters because i don't HAVE gyno nigga i checked
>>1894606yes stop giving him attention
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>>1894606smartest brit
Iceland won
▶ №1894616[Quote]>>1894626
>>1894610they're similar enough that you can pass gyno off as pecs if you lift enough
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>>1894616no you cant
i know this better than you i actually lift geg
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>>1894626Iceland wins btw
▶ №1894635[Quote]>>1894638>>1894643
>>1894626are you implying i didn't lift
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>>1894635dude is from britain
GEEEEEEEEEEG
▶ №1894643[Quote]>>1894647
>>1894635you benched 60 after a year lil bro you did not lift consistently or with intensity
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or you just have Low T
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>>1894643britain lost
Iceland won