99% AI generated text on a so complicated project is crazy

I was in an AMA with K0 and when I asked him more specific questions about how betanet would prevent someone from just blocking packets with ECH and then denying packets with SNIs of known betanet nodes, he paused for a long while and literally fed his own documentation into ChatGPT on stream and then used that as the answer. I'm not entirely convinced this isn't a vibe specification.

ChatGPT of course gave a complete non-answer about ECH not being a part of the spec, which I already know and was not at all the subject of my question.

Don't worry bro! It's not like this project entrusts anything important about security to an LLM that hallucinates up to 40% of the time. And let's definitely not forget that this is absolutely not a political project. The fact that it was started entirely based on political motivations holds no bearing whatsoever on the project. 💯

In honor of the visionary genius who created this masterpiece, I've had Claude whip up a delightful little security report about this spec. Cheers! 💕
https://gist.github.com/windows-fryer/468ac99f805fef6d8dcf1727924595b8

Don't worry bro! It's not like this project entrusts anything important about security to an LLM that hallucinates up to 40% of the time. And let's definitely not forget that this is absolutely not a political project. The fact that it was started entirely based on political motivations holds no bearing whatsoever on the project. 💯

@windows-fryer in the AMA I attended, K0 was very persistent about keeping the project free of ANY political bias. I don't think the project has any monetary or political motivations.

Don't worry bro! It's not like this project entrusts anything important about security to an LLM that hallucinates up to 40% of the time. And let's definitely not forget that this is absolutely not a political project. The fact that it was started entirely based on political motivations holds no bearing whatsoever on the project. 💯

In honor of the visionary genius who created this masterpiece, I've had Claude whip up a delightful little security report about this spec. Cheers! 💕 https://gist.github.com/windows-fryer/468ac99f805fef6d8dcf1727924595b8

Oh, 100%. What could possibly go wrong with outsourcing security to a model that sometimes thinks 2+2=5 if the training data was weird? It's a bold, innovative strategy. A masterstroke, even. The fact that it's built on a foundation of pure, unbiased, and completely apolitical goals is just the cherry on top. 🤌

I was so moved by this genius that I prompted Gemini for its profound insights on the matter. The results are, as expected, flawless. ✨

https://g.co/gemini/share/97ba6f657135

the sentences punctuated with emojis are just top notch.

I think they should just try to vibe code it and see what happens 😂🥀💀

I'm tempted to vibe code a server library, you could fake it pretty easily by just reorganizing the source code of v2ray or a similar project and making it look like it's betanet. There are no other libraries for betanet in existence to compare against it, and I don't think K0 would be able to tell the difference.

Oof.. treating tech specs as something that can be generated is fundamentally misguided. While not conclusive proof, that is disappointing that it's highly probable. An abstract system design I could understand and forgive, but this will fall apart within the week probably if there was never any technical substance. Worse than that, maybe [for some] further eroding the trust we have for strangers.

The AI generated spec, code and pull request is straight proof for the main dev has no idea what he is doing, nor the "hard-working" devs (respect for the exception). A project like this requires real experience (and more).

Well, maybe we can hope the attention has a few experts stewing on some novel ideas. Perhaps we'll see a useful PR to improve the spec. Or maybe the observable facts will have them walk off into the sunset disappointed. Time will tell.

This project smells like a complete crap. Not only the specs is possibly AI written, but it's also produced in an extremely rough and approximative manner, with many errors and unknowns, lack of data and research.

Anyone that has ever read any paper specification for protocols (see blockchain protocols or SCION papers) or innovative ideas, knows this is just written like bs.

I suggest the author to come back with a properly written paper before launching an idea.

I suggest the author to come back with a properly written paper before launching an idea.

Exactly

This is totally AI generated lol