1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its over
    SS2 will seethe so much about this

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ss2
      you mean daiz

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wont use his troony name

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    what does this mean for technology?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are (corporate) distros that disable hardware accelerated h264 (such as fedora). When patents expire they can enable them again. I believe gpus (in desktops, laptops and phones) also pay a license fee for every device sold. Some software such as davinci resolve also doesn't support h264 in the free version because of the patent. With this they can add it to the free version. This is one reason some people dont want to move to linux because they need "professional grade" video editing with support for h264, but they are too cheap to buy davinci resolve.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Some software such as davinci resolve also doesn't support h264 in the free version because of the patent
        wait, are you for real?
        do they seriously don't support the world's most common video codec out of the box? wtf
        "h264 is the best for compatibility" my ass btw

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it is bullshit and most tutorials for DVR* will tell you to render your video to fricking uncompressed still images and to just use ffmpeg on it to get an h264 mp4.
          * most DVR tutorials are written by Indians who need to scam $250 through teamviewer to get the full version

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes we always get this bullshit. It was the same when mp3 was patented. Same with hdmi vs displayport. I cant fricking use hdmi 2.1 on linux on amd because the hdmi forum doesn't allow amd to make an open source implementation of it. I have a displayport to hdmi cable but it doesn't work well (monitor randomly loses connection and shit and I have to reboot).

          Why the frick would you need davinci resolve for simple editing? Why not just use VP9? This sound to me more like the Photoshop vs Krita/Gimp dilema. I would say Maya vs Blender as well but Blender pretty much destroyed all competition.

          You dont, which is why I said "professional grade"

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why the frick would you need davinci resolve for simple editing? Why not just use VP9? This sound to me more like the Photoshop vs Krita/Gimp dilema. I would say Maya vs Blender as well but Blender pretty much destroyed all competition.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >davinci resolve
        >look it up
        >read what it does and the accomplishments its received
        >red dot award
        HELLO SAAAARS LOOK AT THE RED DOT ON MY FOREHEAD SAAAAAARS

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          meds

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >be me
        >want H264 freedom
        >patent expires
        >think everything is fixed
        >lol no
        >corpo distros like Fedora
        >"muh freedom"
        >still won't enable H264
        >"but proprietary bad"
        >20-year-old patent who?
        >ideologues gonna ideologue
        >hardware makers
        >NVIDIA, AMD, Qualcomm
        >"lol no"
        >license fees still there
        >already baked into prices
        >expired patents? more profit for us
        >Apple laughs in non-standard formats
        >video editing on Linux
        >still a meme
        >DaVinci Resolve free version
        >"buy studio edition lol"
        >Kdenlive and Shotcut
        >get a tiny performance bump
        >still not pro-level
        >devs too scattered and broke
        >users
        >too lazy to switch
        >"Linux too hard"
        >cry when app crashes
        >refuse to learn CLI
        >one unlocked codec won't fix it
        >10 other headaches still there
        >wannabe pros stay on macOS/Windows
        >patent expiration means nothing
        >corpos don't care
        >hardware still locked
        >software still crippled
        >users still lazy
        >freedom is a lie
        >we're all doomed
        >mfw

        • 7 months ago
          SS2

          Oh no, we'll have to rely on AV1 capable of running at 4K60FPS on 2500K PCs without hardware decoders thus saving a metric frick-ton of PCs from ending up as e-waste.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          you can install 264 and 265 with one google search
          and kdenlive works for me just as good as davinci resolve, I mean davinci resolve is impressive over all other video editing but kdenlive works on linux real fast

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hi deepseek.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't get it. I've never paid for h264 nor has any program I use not support it.

        >Some software such as davinci resolve also doesn't support h264 in the free version because of the patent
        wait, are you for real?
        do they seriously don't support the world's most common video codec out of the box? wtf
        "h264 is the best for compatibility" my ass btw

        >davinci resolve also doesn't support h264
        Uh, yeah it does? It has a software encoder that's pretty crappy though, that's why most guides recommend a different format. Not for licensing reasons.
        The retail version has the hardware encoders.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          resolve also doesn't support h264
          >Uh, yeah it does? It has a software encoder that's pretty crappy though, that's why most guides recommend a different format. Not for licensing reasons.
          >The retail version has the hardware encoders.
          I think the free tier doesn't have it on linux, but it does on windows. The reason for why it's not on linux given by blackmagic is that the userbase is too small to justify the cost associated with adding compatibility, primarily because of the licence, so it could change it for linux users.
          I'd be super happy about that, video editing is the one area where I don't have a solid native linux option yet that I actually enjoy and resolve was very comfy when I used it on windows.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      it means you can statically link x264 in your GPL licensed software now

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It means Fedora might actually include AVC/H264 by default.
      It also means codecs like the future AV2 can use AVC/H264 patents

  3. 7 months ago
    SS2

    Which H264 settings should I use to fit an anime episode into 6MB?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its over
      SS2 will seethe so much about this

      yup

      • 7 months ago
        SS2

        Oh no, you got me. But seriously, I'm curious what settings could outperform all the hard work by YIFY. Show us how amazing H264 is.

        This doesn't mean crap. h.264 isn't competing against av1. It's competing against VP8 and VP9. Some games use VP9 because of licensing issues and that's about it. For us plebs this is completely meaningless.

        Google fixed VP9's single pass CRF mode so LOLNO but to be fair that was only like a year ago so before that I would have agreed with you. You can check out my blogpost on tbh archive if you want to know more.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know what you're talking about with VP9. What does that have to do with being a free format and competing against h.264 and h.265? Are you talking about YouTube? Games don't have to follow YouTube rules.

          • 7 months ago
            SS2

            Basically before google fixed CRF on VP9, a single pass encode (ie used for streaming) resulted in horrible quality fluctuations which H264 did not have and thus H264 was widely seen as a competitor to VP9. Recently google fixed that, VMAF related was achieved for 1080p anime video at just ~500 kbps, it successfully stayed within a VMAF of ~90, a requirement of "high quality" video or more technically 4/5 MOS.

            PSY AOM AV1 encoders are even more insane, 1080p anime samples achieve 4/5 MOS as low as 128 kbps. High quality 1080p video at MP3 bitrates.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            VMAF is a bogus metric

          • 7 months ago
            SS2

            It obliterates SSIM because it takes motion vectors into account so when you plot out the scores from the CSV you can easily pick apart quality fluctuation problems from say using CBR mode, a moron encoding mode used by like 80% of porn sites. That said it's very limited in what it can test, AFAIK the following are requirements for accurate scores:

            A) Video must be 1920x1080 or 3840x2160
            B) Video most be 4:2:0 (ie 99% of video on the web)

            Also VMAF is not reliable for 4:2:0 images as they do not contain motion vectors.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol

            https://videoprocessing.github.io/hacking-vmaf-and-vmaf-neg

          • 7 months ago
            SS2

            Are you saying SSIM can't be cheated in as well? There is no perfect video quality metric but VMAF when used correctly best correlates with MOS because unlike everything else it actually measures temporal quality over time.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm saying that objective metrics are flawed and shouldn't be used as a metric.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            In case you didn't know, AV1 inserted a code that buffs it's VMAF score "artificially", i.e by cheating.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ok so you mean in videos, speficically anime. Most are MP4 with h.264/h.265 as far as I know. So for many people VP9 was not competition against h.265, more like h.264. For gaming the quality doesn't really matter that much when compared to licensing issues, that's why many games have webm videos with VP9. With AV1 none of that matters anymore, it simply beats all competition, at least in gaming.

          • 7 months ago
            SS2

            Right, google botched their successor at launch. It required very nerdy knowledge of 2 pass encodes with specialized ARNR and alternate reference frames enabled to achieve good compression. Even if you knew about all that shit it doesn't matter because you can't use a 2 pass encode for streaming. That's why anons used to recommend you get the h264 streams from yt-dlp because they legitimately used to be better quality than the VP9 streams. That's probably why so many groups decided to work on AV1 collectively, Google just couldn't hack an H265 replacement fast enough and for like a decade it was only somewhat better than H264 LOL.

            >firefox can't play h265 in 2025

            Unironically one of the few good things about Firefox.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          1st pass is really really fast on vpxenc, you're getting better quality basically for free if you're willing to do the pipework

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if you're willing to do the pipework
            meanwhile in x264 land:
            ffmpeg -i <input> <output.mp4>
            done, just werks.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            it werks, sure, but which looks better?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            adding to this fact, you can also use ffmpeg's libvpx wrapper, do a one liner single pass and still beat h264

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but which looks better?
            the x264 encoded video, especially if you add -crf and manually choose a value lower than 20, nothing else necessary
            the question you were looking for was "which is more efficient?"

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Told ya

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >6MB for a full length episode
      >meanwhile todays anime episodes are 1.4GB+
      what the frick happened?
      it's not like the quality and resolution is 200x better

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's not like the quality and resolution is 200x better
        yes, it is

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lots of still dark images

      • 7 months ago
        SS2

        Good encoders like YIFY are not going to risk getting party v&d for 0 monetary compensation so NVENC H264/H265 rips are dime a dozen. Things might change now that we have Nazis in the white house at least for Anime. Takashi and Aiko aren't going to starve to death just because a sea of weebs desperately want to see glorified commercials of light novels.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >gestures throwing heart
          >says my heart goes out to you
          >morons somehow misinterpret this

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            All he had to do was to turn his palm 90 degrees and nothing would happen.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Elon the hebrew Israel lover is lé SiegHeiling mega Hitler
          this is an even easier IQ test than the vaxx

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I agree

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        SubsPlease use Crunchy encodes that don't use B frames because they can't into technology. That ballooned encode sizes. You can check the frame types of a file with ffmpeg if you want to verify yourself.

        • 7 months ago
          SS2

          Jesus Christ, do you think they're doing encodes on fricking GTX GPUs? I know planned obsolescence in general is LE BAD! but I wouldn't mind if GTX GPUs started dying after like 5 years of use, nvidia would be doing the whole world a huge favor...

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I used to have a link to an article going through the details of how Crunchy's infrastructure sucks, but I can't for the life of me find it. I can't remember the details, but the content delivery network they use for their streams couldn't handle delivering future frames for decoding, leading to desyncs. Their solution to this problem wasn't to fix their infrastructure, but to encode without B frames.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So they can't even have multiple encodes? Pushing legacy encodes to older shit and having modern files to newer devices?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            While more modern codecs would be nice, H265 also has B frames so you would get the same issue there. VP9 and AV1 has decoding that needs future data, but it doesn't work the same as H264/H265 and I am not well versed enough in codecs to say whether it would cause the same kind of issues. They really should fix their infrastructure. They could achieve much smaller sizes even with H264.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm ACTING!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        wow an obsolete codec is no longer patented (in europoor land)
        Why do you homosexuals cling onto old shit, but only old shit from a very specific era? Nobody autistically clung onto realmedia, windows media codecs, h263, divx, xvid, etc. Nobody's autistically clinging onto hevc, av1, etc. Same shit with hangers-on for 7.

        Those 1.4GB videos don't look like absolute fricking shit once anything happens or you stop watching in a tiny embed box. Look at the entire post-credits sequence. It's very blurry and artifacty even in the embed preview.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Why do you homosexuals cling onto old shit
          x264 encoder is literally still the best in the industry, thanks to the insane weebs a decade ago. Nothing compares to it in speed and quality.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Here's a screenshot with movement in it from a 158mb file, you big crybaby
          When you pause and stare at pixels sure you can notice a difference but without doing that you wouldn't be able to tell much of a difference. Certainly not 10x the fricking size worth of difference...

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >crf 63 video paired with two tracks of 8 channel flac audio
        that's what happened

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I remember pirating sub-20mb episodes of Slayers with hardcoded subs on them encoded in RealMedia back in the day via WinMX
        And I am glad we're no longer living in those times. My eyes hurt just thinking about that image quality.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >downloading a camrip of jackass: the movie from dc++
          take me back anons

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            were you that guy who showed me and my friend a camrip of jackass the movie in his trailer?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      .rmvb

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This doesn't mean crap. h.264 isn't competing against av1. It's competing against VP8 and VP9. Some games use VP9 because of licensing issues and that's about it. For us plebs this is completely meaningless.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's competing against VP8
      it's won against vp8 already, and by quite a lot
      >and vp9
      not even close, vp9 is competing with h265

      • 7 months ago
        SS2

        >it's won against vp8 already, and by quite a lot
        By default? Yeeeee, single pass CRF mode never got fixed in VP8 AFAIK.

        1st pass is really really fast on vpxenc, you're getting better quality basically for free if you're willing to do the pipework

        How does this compare to:

        ffmpeg -i in.webm ^
        -c:v libvpx-vp9 -profile:v 2 -pix_fmt yuv420p10le ^
        -b:v 0 -crf 40 -g 300 ^
        -cpu-used 0 -lag-in-frames 25 -aq-mode 2 ^
        -tile-columns 1 -row-mt 1 -enable-tpl 1 ^
        -an ^
        out40.webm

        Here's a source video you can try it on, I used it to make

        Webm related. Just to be clear this isn't actually 4/5 MOS compared to the blu-ray because the source was 3 Mbps H264. Still, the fact that VP9 was able to reduce filesize by like 80% with little quality degradation is fricking nuts.

        PSY AOM branches still need a lot of work in tuning but overall it's crazy that what started out as a simple better open source video codec for web streaming slop is now blossoming into something even better than that.

        which me a really consistent 4/5 MOS distribution at ~500kbps for 1080p anime in VMAF as shown in

        Basically before google fixed CRF on VP9, a single pass encode (ie used for streaming) resulted in horrible quality fluctuations which H264 did not have and thus H264 was widely seen as a competitor to VP9. Recently google fixed that, VMAF related was achieved for 1080p anime video at just ~500 kbps, it successfully stayed within a VMAF of ~90, a requirement of "high quality" video or more technically 4/5 MOS.

        PSY AOM AV1 encoders are even more insane, 1080p anime samples achieve 4/5 MOS as low as 128 kbps. High quality 1080p video at MP3 bitrates.

        >if you're willing to do the pipework
        meanwhile in x264 land:
        ffmpeg -i <input> <output.mp4>
        done, just werks.

        >but which looks better?
        the x264 encoded video, especially if you add -crf and manually choose a value lower than 20, nothing else necessary
        the question you were looking for was "which is more efficient?"

        Why do you like bloat so much? Are you happy that opening 2 youtube tabs on firefox takes up 1.5GB of RAM?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >By default?
          no, in general
          unless you are fricking blind the shittiest sloppiest h264 will still outperform the most optimized vp8 encode, vp8 is the shittiest codec known to man
          >Why do you like bloat so much?
          says the moron troony that bloats every IQfy codec thread

          • 7 months ago
            SS2

            I wouldn't personally know because I've never used it nor intend to but what I heard is that google never fixed the CRF encoder of VP8 (they did for VP9) otherwise 2-pass ABR VP8 can achieve good quality at 3-5 Mbps for 1080p video in general vs whatever x264 needs to hit that same bitrate with single pass CRF mode. But yeah it was pixilated 480p city like webm related before VP9 got adopted here so a lot of the VP8 encodes do seem on par with Xvid tbh.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            stop bloating the thread

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          First pass ran at an average of 147.26 fps on a 5600X with 3600MT/s RAM. Parameters are mostly defaults of the script like variance AQ mode, columns and rows at 0, keyframes every 10s (240 since it's anime), crf 45, etc. Here's the result:

          • 7 months ago
            SS2

            HMMMMM I can't really tell them apart playing them side by side. I got a similar VMAF of 93 AVG, 84 as the MIN so that makes sense.

            BUTT your VMAF distribution seems more unstable.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >your VMAF distribution seems more unstable
            It may be the additional keyframes since you used 300 as the max spacing vs 240 on my encode and also variance AQ mode instead of complexity on yours. Still there are frames that tell you the encoder could use the info from the first pass like in the previous screenshot and here.

          • 7 months ago
            SS2

            I guess the motion compensation thing is doing its job because I can't really tell during normal playback, only when I pause at the right time. This is some spooky MOS 5/5 uncanny valley stuff. Still good to see that single pass CRF is working about as 80% as good as 2-pass CRF.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah it's impressive what it can do with a single pass but I'm too autistic to not be distracted by stuff like this during playback.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            How do you know if it's a moronic newbie or Daiz's bot behind the "anon" post that is responding to Daiz's bot with the tripgay SS2?

            This shit reads like a bot quickly trained on 500 posts from IQfy and IQfy.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you saying AGI is already here?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            LMAO.

            You don't need AGI to astorturf with bots.

            Reddit admins turned Reddit into Stormfront+euphemism through botting for a few years to attract investors from israelites.

            One person set up one bot that was behind 1/3 of posts on /misc/.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Av1 won.
    Avif won.
    Opus won.
    Multimedia codec is a solved problem now.

    • 7 months ago
      SS2

      Webm related. Just to be clear this isn't actually 4/5 MOS compared to the blu-ray because the source was 3 Mbps H264. Still, the fact that VP9 was able to reduce filesize by like 80% with little quality degradation is fricking nuts.

      PSY AOM branches still need a lot of work in tuning but overall it's crazy that what started out as a simple better open source video codec for web streaming slop is now blossoming into something even better than that.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't encode av1 or avif without dedicated hardware
      Opus did win doe

      • 7 months ago
        SS2

        WRONG. ASICs are no longer a requirement for either because of the star of Dav1d software decoding improvements.

        https://9to5google.com/2024/04/19/android-av1-software-decoder/

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >firefox can't play h265 in 2025

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Hardware-accelerated playback of HEVC video content is now supported on Windows.
      https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/134.0/releasenotes/

      ha ha

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    LAME was a thing before Fraunhofer's patents went kaput and it's still the MP3 container codec, so I doubt this'll mean much.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    H264 is 2 generations behind AV1.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >patents
    >license
    >$$$
    the chinks are right, our IP laws are moronic & israelitey and hold everyone back with tollkeeping

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the chinks are right, our IP laws are moronic & israelitey and hold everyone back with tollkeeping
      This, even if new things are invented corpo wienerroaches crawl out and demand gibs. It's insane.

      https://www.sisvel.com/licensing-programmes/audio-and-video-coding-decoding/video-coding-platform-av1/

      https://www.via-la.com/licensing-2/avc-h-264/avc-h-264-patent-list/

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        they should have put the 500 billion into hardware instead of software which should be open source anyway.

        it makes sense for capitalism to use open source software, it reduces costs and increases efficiency.

        imagine the top drawer hardware there could be if more money went into hardware?
        instead, they have rotting cpus and overheating everywhere.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    MPEG-2, which is good enough for DVDs is still being cucked by a Malaysian patent. Expect similar tricks with h.264. The licensing cucks don't want a free format taking over the web. The same reason why they are suppressing jpeg-xl and webp on IQfy.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who are "they"?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Patent licensing organizations you conspiracy-brained anon.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          These organizations are the reason IQfy doesn't have WebP support? Sounds moronic.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not, IQfy already has legal issues with glowies posting shit all the time, adding patent issues will just add to the burden. There are also submarine patent organizations that exist outside of official licensing pools.

    • 7 months ago
      SS2

      Mpeg-2 looks like fricking dogshit for DVDs if it's not anime. Webp was going to be adopted here a while ago but then google botched the adoption be releasing one of the worst security vulnerabilities through lossless webp. I really hope google learned their lesson and hardened webp enough for IQfy to adopt it soon but given that it adopted H264 instead of AV1 I have my doubts on what's next.

      BTW passes are now $60 :^)

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        MPEG-2 looks fine for DVDs, at the distance you're supposed to sit from a TV, and on a TV relevant to the era. It still looks okay on a big screen too, but there's only so much you can do with a 720x480 non-square pixel aspect ratio video.

        • 7 months ago
          SS2

          Only if it's anime and even then a Resrgan upscale will yield visible artefact removal at 200% zoom during motion intense scenes so this shit thing can barely achieve 4/5 MOS for 720x480 anime even at fricking 4 Mbps which is truly mind boggling. I often wonder if storing the frames as mozjpeg still images will yield better quality...

          I'm saying that objective metrics are flawed and shouldn't be used as a metric.

          In case you didn't know, AV1 inserted a code that buffs it's VMAF score "artificially", i.e by cheating.

          Obviously the best metric is your eyeballs but I'm not going to become a MOS robot for like hundreds of hours of video on my computer LOL. If you don't intentionally cheat there is no better video metric that takes temporal quality into account other than VMAF that I'm aware of. Nobody even wants to use the VMAF tune on AV1 because it makes encodes take longer.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >only if it's ani-
            Stop basing image quality on how it looks with your eyes glued to your laptop screen you idiot. I watched a movie on DVD not long ago, and other than the image being extra blurry because the player (not the format, not the codec, the physical DVD player) can only output to 1080p and the tv's upscaler from there to 4k is not good, there was no issue with visual fidelity. No more issue than anime would have, at least.

          • 7 months ago
            SS2

            Resrgan doesn't lie. If you're too stupid to use it from the command line there's a chink on github who made a GUI for it but he's going to beg for money.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but the algorithm
            Use your FRICKING eyes. I don't give a flying frick what your moronic aislop upscaling algorithm generates. What we are talking about is visual fidelity for watching content. Not shoving the aislop dildo up our asses so we can pretend footage is HD or 4k.

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    hd radio patents expired in the us
    still no cheap tuners

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let me guess. It expires in 5 more years in the israelitenited States.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally doesn't matter. You still can't use it freely.

  14. 7 months ago
    JonSneeders

    How ironic that IQfy chooses to whitelist it a few months before the fact. What was even the point of waiting, then?

    • 7 months ago
      SS2

      Probably beta-testing payload detection for this shit thing. I always scan any MP4 files here before opening them just in case...

      https://www.securityweek.com/whatsapp-vulnerability-allows-code-execution-malicious-mp4-file/

  15. 7 months ago
    SS2

    To be clear, Resrgan hallucinates... BUT it doesn't lie about the shitty artefacting via standard bicubic upscaling.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    AV2 is the future, forget about H.264 already. AV1 flopped because it turned out to be worse than VVC. AV2 will actually take advantage of expired patents to use less compute intensive algos instead the ones they came up with for AV1 to bypass the patents

    • 7 months ago
      SS2

      >"GUYS LET'S ALL SUCK CORPORATE DICK FOR 10% GAINS COMPARED TO AV1 ENCODED WITH AOM!"
      Can you please explain what happened to mpeg-la? Like did they go bankrupt or not? Is it still accurate to call you wienerscukers mpeg-la shills?

      who the frick is ss2?

      Whom'st*

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        are AV1 m9-m12 real nowadays? they're the only ones that seem reasonable to me over x264

        • 7 months ago
          SS2

          Yup, you can now encode AV1 video at 1,000+ FPS with compression efficiency on par with x264 placebo. Not sure why you'd want to vs NVENC AV1 but the option is there I guess. AMD is currently roiding up their AV1 ASIC on RDNA 4 to be on par with like x265 fast and that's just the consumer slop.

          https://www.guru3d.com/story/amd-rx-9070-series-graphics-cards-introduce-av1-bframe-encoding-support/

    • 7 months ago
      fixLIVES

      >"GUYS LET'S ALL SUCK CORPORATE DICK FOR 10% GAINS COMPARED TO AV1 ENCODED WITH AOM!"
      Can you please explain what happened to mpeg-la? Like did they go bankrupt or not? Is it still accurate to call you wienerscukers mpeg-la shills?

      [...]
      Whom'st*

      I cannot agree when you think that AV1 is worse than VVC because of this ≈three-years-old Intel's evaluation.

      I have recently tried SVT-AV1's “minus one” preset against VVenC's “slower”. They are equally slow nowadays, and I've judged AV1's artifacts are visually more appealing.

      • 7 months ago
        SS2

        It's even worse with PSY AV1 but the point is these FIENDS will spam around a ~~*study*~~ where VVC is compared to SVT-AV1 with its stupid default preset 10 param and then jump around like monkeys claiming VVC is 30% better than AV1. It's reminiscent of the VP8 trolling days. Graph may be old granted but it haunts the VVC shills because it shows how outrageously dogshit slow their botched video codec is.

        To be honest I never had much hope for AV1 when it first released, it just seemed logical that mpeg-la was going to shovel money into their H265 successor hard enough to trump anything open sores. Yet here we are and even Steam OS is now outperforming Wankblows 11 in vidya for some reason. Maybe the golden age of closed source is finally winding down, the AI spammers certainly seem to think so.

    • 7 months ago
      JonSneeders

      AV2 is the H.265 of AOM codecs. Sure, it may be a significant improvement, but it doesn't have a political use case like AV1 did.

      Based.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    who the frick is ss2?

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Will linux distros stop being autistic now and bundle h264 compatibility into the os now instead of hiding it behind a checkbox or an optional install?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >be me
      >linux user for years
      >every time I need h264 support
      >have to hunt for extra packages
      >checkbox or optional install feels like a joke
      >linux distros could make it easier, but nope
      >still hide codecs behind layers
      >isn't the whole point of open-source flexibility
      >just bundle it already, it's 2025
      >watch as it's still an optional checkbox on most distros
      >why does it have to be this hard
      >seriously, distros will continue to be autistic about this
      >2026 rolls around, still the same checkbox
      >2030, still hunting for codecs
      >distros: "but muh licensing and freedom"
      >meanwhile, users just want to watch a video
      >distros: "here's a 12-step guide to enable h264"
      >users: "just bundle it already"
      >distros: "no, we must remain pure"
      >autism levels reaching critical mass
      >2050, still arguing about codecs
      >distros: "we've added a new checkbox for h265, progress!"
      >users: *facepalm*
      >distros will never change, embrace the autism

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        thanks deepseek i love you

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >linux
      i run slagware and i've never installed a codec i think.
      i just assume everything works and it mostly does.
      genius this slagware.
      i need to donate to patrick one of these days

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      OpenSUSE maybe as they're based in Europe. Fedora gotta wait until the US patents expire.

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care until they expire in America so that Fedora can add em

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >h264
    wow its fricking nothing

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >most commonly used video codec becoming free is nothing
      daiz, turn your trip back on

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The real Daiz's tripcode literally has H.264 in it, so why do you think he wouldn't be happy about the format becoming patent-free? I know you're a schizo but it's almost impressive how the Daiz in your head is so consistently pretty much the exact opposite of the real thing.

        • 6 months ago
          SS2

          Man, for someone obsessed with video codecs this chink sounds more like a dumbass tbh. AV1 ASICs can now produce 5/5 MOS at just 5Mbps for non-anime 1080p video, then it will drop down to 4Mbps, and potentially even 3Mbps at which point CPU video encoding in general will become obsolete for like 90% of users if not more. For reference 1080p H264 blu-ray sources are 40 Mbps.

          I mean even on 4chin there's not much good to be said about H264 since external sources are usually in the Mbps range, often already pixilated, and rarely fit in 6MB. IT'S ALL SO TIRESOME.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the only real downside is that is hardware decoder is limited to 8-bit channel depth
          Hardly a downside, most 10-bit encodes don't come from 10-bit sources anyway.

          • 6 months ago
            SS2

            It's a HUGE downside especially for the website you're on. When you do a 10-bit encode you improve encoder luma/chroma accuracy even if it dithers back down to 8-bit so ultimately you get 10-20% better compression efficiency. That's partly how PSY AV1 is able to achieve 4/5 MOS for some 1080p anime samples as low as 128 kbps, spatial data affects temporal motion vector estimations and other nerdy shit that I don't understand.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's why I'm saying 10-bit decoding doesn't matter.
            10-bit is mostly used for compression. It is rarely used to represent larger color space. Basically only uhd blurays actually use 10-bit color.

          • 6 months ago
            SS2

            No, I'm saying it's a HACK that improves compression efficiency regardless if the source is 8-bit instead of 10-bit. Controversially if 10-bit compression was not part of the main spec in AV1 then AVIF wouldn't be able to compete with Jpeg XL. Of course that won't stop moron webdevs from shitting up the internet with 8-bit AVIF images.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No, I'm saying it's a HACK that improves compression efficiency regardless if the source is 8-bit instead of 10-bit
            Yeah, that's what I'm saying too. Not sure what you're arguing about.

          • 6 months ago
            SS2

            Why would 10-bit decoding not matter if it's beneficial for like 90% of all humanity? It's only a small minority that will store 40GB blu-rays, the rest are doing transcodes, downloading transcodes, or even worse paying for streaming services.

            Anyway the whole WOW factor of AV1 has mainly revolved around 10-bit being PART of the whole main spec, it's not an extensions. Which means that ANYTHING with an AV1 ASIC at the bare minimum can decode 10-bit. That's like insane when you think about it because god help you with those 10-bit H265 rips, you have like a 50/50 chance it will even play through the ASIC because the israeli mpeg-la decided that 10-bit was not for us goys.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            no way
            i refuse to believe this is real

            it's like converting a 300x300 png into a 30 quality 1000x1000 jaypeg
            why not just convert it normally but with a non-dogshit quality preset?

          • 6 months ago
            SS2

            Because JPG doesn't store data as RGB but YUV and those 2 things have caused a massive rift among nerds. It's why there's so much controversy behind AVIF and JXL as both are biased toward a future where we get rid of one of those colorspaces, at least for images.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            they need to be convinced to stop encoooding altogether and just upload raw web DLs and bd rips.
            it is quite hilarious in the age of gigabit internet and cheap storage to realize that years of "we need to re-encoooode the BD for better filterinos" was just a massive cope to shrink file size.

            Here's a screenshot with movement in it from a 158mb file, you big crybaby
            When you pause and stare at pixels sure you can notice a difference but without doing that you wouldn't be able to tell much of a difference. Certainly not 10x the fricking size worth of difference...

            very interesting how every "anonymous" reply to daiz's bot is sucking corporate dick by yes manning his moronic propaganda and red*it typing

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why isn't your bot screeching at you for mentioning Twitter, Daiz?

          Testing if any moronic newbies can see through your samegayging?

          https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/twitter/username/ss2/
          https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/twitter/username/pixdaiz/

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    if this is not the perfect example of how bullshit it is that patents last 20 years i dunno what to say

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    serious question, what does think Stallman or other freetard references of using former patented tech? i dont think i ever read anything about it

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      would like to know as well

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting, however:
    >make chad jippity write a generic patent for "an electronic file for storing moving pictures".
    >File it at an east-texas patent mill.
    >start spamming everyone with C&Ds and damage claims.
    >Make tons of bank from malicious litigation.
    Nothing personal kid

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    How long until HEVC patents expire?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      not anytime soon, prolly another 7-8 years for the first patents to expire

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now if we can just convince the morons on nyaa to stop encoding everything with that blurry hevc shit... who the frick cares about 10-20% size reduction...

    • 6 months ago
      SS2

      YIFY is popular for a reason.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      they need to be convinced to stop encoooding altogether and just upload raw web DLs and bd rips.
      it is quite hilarious in the age of gigabit internet and cheap storage to realize that years of "we need to re-encoooode the BD for better filterinos" was just a massive cope to shrink file size.

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile the shitberry pi 5 just removed hardware H.264 encoding and decoding

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, that's insane, literally the only device on planet earth manufactured after 2008 that doesn't have an hw h264 decoder
      and then they wonder why people buy chinkshit versions of it instead

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even worse it he removal of the encoder. People used raspis for all sorts of camera shit, the new one is useless unless you want a space heater cpu

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Best encodes I see nowadays are H.265 usually

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    As expected, Daiz reminds everyone why he's a schizo by shilling Tel Avif in a random thread and sharing his extremely deranged delusions.

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