Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

I guess we've all being taught when to call someone Mr, Mrs or Miss. But somehow pronoums (for example) become a bit of a hurdle. I've never understood where the fuss with pronoums come from, most probably because my native language is a highly gendered one, unlike english. We've learnt to assing gender to a lot of words (even taught words can and do change gender depending on the context)

my native tongue is not gendered, but while learning english growing up it took me no time at all to be adjusting to pronouns and gendered language. even before i realised i was queer i still referred to my friends and partners as whatever they wished purely out of kindness. because it makes them feel more comfortable and secure in themselves, and i want folk to be feeling this way.

Originally posted by GoldenEldiablo:

Originally posted by salamander:

you know what else takes little energy? none at all in fact, barely a trifle. referring to someone by their preferred pronouns. a minute kindness that costs you nothing.

It doesn’t make you any less of a person if you reject to do it, does it?

They can't throw an anti-kindness card at someone for not going with it.

no, you are still a person. but it is just kind of rude not to do so. you would make the person you are addressing instantly feel good, positive feelings towards you. you do not have to refer to anyone by anything, but i just see it as a basic kindness to another.

Originally posted by Espejismo:

spanish is woke because every noun is gendered /s

We're not short of linguistic battles anyway. Our 'generic gender' for words is the male version and pushes are being made to introduce more gender neutral terminology or a wider acceptance of female gendered versions (which over the last decades has gained momentum)

Of course we're not sort of idiots on both sides making dumb suggestions. Which is often used as a spearhead for the more regressive side (Kind of how they drift gender identity discussions into the 'I identify as an attack helicopter' or pronoums choices towards the 'xe/xir' extreme cases)
But our language makes it very self evident when someone is trying to play with the english-centric discourse against inclusive language, because it really goes against the grain (And our far-right party recite Bannon's teachings verbatim. With some hilsrious results)

Originally posted by salamander:

my native tongue is not gendered, but while learning english growing up it took me no time at all to be adjusting to pronouns and gendered language. even before i realised i was queer i still referred to my friends and partners as whatever they wished purely out of kindness. because it makes them feel more comfortable and secure in themselves, and i want folk to be feeling this way.

It's really not that hard as some want to make it to be. The main reason I started featuring pronoums in my profile despite being a he/him, white, cis, heterosexual male, as plain as white bread is for people to feel accepted and understood. For people to know they're safe around.

Originally posted by GoldenEldiablo:

It doesn’t make you any less of a person if you reject to do it, does it?

It makes them appear rude though. Just like not adressing certain people as Mr/Mrs is.

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by Dracoco OwO:

The problem with these operations is that many are honestly unnecesary

I leave that opinion to doctors.

Hair transplant is not needed and i mean for no one, cope with that fact if you disagree.

Originally posted by imniga:

Bruh whats so hard to understand, its wanting peer acceptance, and having gender identity disturbances has been happening for thousands of years, this isnt some 'woke' thing from modern culture

It can still be woke if it comes from good intentions, the nuance is how exactly it goes vs this is kinda a plot to make money.

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by Espejismo:

spanish is woke because every noun is gendered /s

We're not short of linguistic battles anyway. Our 'generic gender' for words is the male version and pushes are being made to introduce more gender neutral terminology or a wider acceptance of female gendered versions (which over the last decades has gained momentum)

Of course we're not sort of idiots on both sides making dumb suggestions. Which is often used as a spearhead for the more regressive side (Kind of how they drift gender identity discussions into the 'I identify as an attack helicopter' or pronoums choices towards the 'xe/xir' extreme cases)
But our language makes it very self evident when someone is trying to play with the english-centric discourse against inclusive language, because it really goes against the grain (And our far-right party recite Bannon's teachings verbatim. With some hilsrious results)

ik all that, spanish is also my first language, i'm from uruguay. unless you're just writing for all the people reading in which case yeah, i agree

Originally posted by Espejismo:

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

We're not short of linguistic battles anyway. Our 'generic gender' for words is the male version and pushes are being made to introduce more gender neutral terminology or a wider acceptance of female gendered versions (which over the last decades has gained momentum)

Of course we're not sort of idiots on both sides making dumb suggestions. Which is often used as a spearhead for the more regressive side (Kind of how they drift gender identity discussions into the 'I identify as an attack helicopter' or pronoums choices towards the 'xe/xir' extreme cases)
But our language makes it very self evident when someone is trying to play with the english-centric discourse against inclusive language, because it really goes against the grain (And our far-right party recite Bannon's teachings verbatim. With some hilsrious results)

ik all that, spanish is also my first language, i'm from uruguay. unless you're just writing for all the people reading in which case yeah, i agree

Latinx is still extremely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unnecesary as a term but only peoples that exclusively speak english can't understand this (Latino is already gender neutral but also male).

I think this whole gender debacle is completely pointless as a french and also who cares about genders like, it's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ words. All this ♥♥♥♥ is made up anyways.

Originally posted by Dracoco OwO:

Originally posted by Espejismo:

ik all that, spanish is also my first language, i'm from uruguay. unless you're just writing for all the people reading in which case yeah, i agree

Latinx is still extremely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unnecesary as a term but only peoples that exclusively speak english can't understand this (Latino is already gender neutral but also male).

I think this whole gender debacle is completely pointless as a french and also who cares about genders like, it's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ words. All this ♥♥♥♥ is made up anyways.

i greatly dislike latinx, although that's mainly because it violates spanish spelling and pronunciation rules. and yeah, in spanish and the other latin languages the male word ending also = gender neutral term already, technically. i get that some people don't like that. if people want to make a new actually neutral ending that's fine, but it should at least follow grammatical logic, that's my opinion.

but i can tell you anyway as someone living in latin america that people here don't use latinx anyway. that's american ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and completely americanized latinos who use it

Originally posted by Espejismo:

Originally posted by Dracoco OwO:

Latinx is still extremely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unnecesary as a term but only peoples that exclusively speak english can't understand this (Latino is already gender neutral but also male).

I think this whole gender debacle is completely pointless as a french and also who cares about genders like, it's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ words. All this ♥♥♥♥ is made up anyways.

i greatly dislike latinx, although that's mainly because it violates spanish spelling and pronunciation rules. and yeah, in spanish and the other latin languages the male word ending also = gender neutral term already, technically. i get that some people don't like that. if people want to make a new actually neutral ending that's fine, but it should at least follow grammatical logic, that's my opinion.

Whenever i see that word, all i can think of is the jojo self insert.

Originally posted by Espejismo:

Originally posted by Dracoco OwO:

Latinx is still extremely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unnecesary as a term but only peoples that exclusively speak english can't understand this (Latino is already gender neutral but also male).

I think this whole gender debacle is completely pointless as a french and also who cares about genders like, it's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ words. All this ♥♥♥♥ is made up anyways.

i greatly dislike latinx, although that's mainly because it violates spanish spelling and pronunciation rules. and yeah, in spanish and the other latin languages the male word ending also = gender neutral term already, technically. i get that some people don't like that. if people want to make a new actually neutral ending that's fine, but it should at least follow grammatical logic, that's my opinion.

I think all this come from a place that try to assimilate everything as it's own but fail to understand nuance in an entirely differently built language, with dubiously and poorly integrated "corrections" they should learn to understand different cultures exists and also do not operate like their opinion of what gender should be too, just my opinion as a complete outsider to all of this.

Originally posted by Dracoco OwO:

Originally posted by Espejismo:

i greatly dislike latinx, although that's mainly because it violates spanish spelling and pronunciation rules. and yeah, in spanish and the other latin languages the male word ending also = gender neutral term already, technically. i get that some people don't like that. if people want to make a new actually neutral ending that's fine, but it should at least follow grammatical logic, that's my opinion.

I think all this come from a place that try to assimilate everything as it's own but fail to understand nuance in an entirely differently built language, with dubiously and poorly integrated "corrections" they should learn to understand different cultures exists and also do not operate like their opinion of what gender should be too, just my opinion as a complete outsider to all of this.

that's pretty fair, in the end imo it should be for people who actually speak the language to decide how to approach it, not people with zero knowledge and zero involvement in the culture

Originally posted by Pieshaman:

We now have in the Netherlands, refugees from USA, transsexual people that try to come here now cause their lives been made miserable and impossible even with new legislations.
They get beat up, scolded at, spit at and now they try to get assylum here.
They in Ter Apel, just as Ukrainian, Syrian and all kind of people over the world.
All other refugees asked the americans wtf you doing here? isn't the USA a save and free country?
The Americans will probably be send back to USA, because the Netherlands does not recognize the USA as an unsafe country.

Ah yes, the naive dutch, who are increasing retirement age to pay for sob story migrants,

Originally posted by peppermint hollows:

Originally posted by Hathaway:

I'm not going to affirm your disordered thinking.

Translation: I'm incapable of more complex thought processes because I only exist to spam YouTube video links. I'm not even a real human being.

Quite the projection when lacking either.

You can't stop proving the point, either you have a solid gold body of research proving the point or you have a fantasy based motivation or a sheep level conformity of human bot behavior proving diminished agency when jumping to defend mutilating kids over threadbare evidence.

So lets not talk about complex thought or substance, because its obvious the proponents of this agenda will resort to any tactic other than proving their case scientifically, because you don't have one.

Originally posted by Hathaway:

Quite the projection when lacking either.

You can't stop proving the point, either you have a solid gold body of research proving the point or you have a fantasy based motivation or a sheep level conformity of human bot behavior proving diminished agency when jumping to defend mutilating kids over threadbare evidence.

So lets not talk about complex thought or substance, because its obvious the proponents of this agenda will resort to any tactic other than proving their case scientifically, because you don't have one.

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