The AI Bubble: Advanced AI Faces A 'Complete Accuracy Collapse'

Damir Tokic
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Summary

  • Apple's study finds that advanced AI reasoning LRM models face a "complete accuracy collapse" with more complex tasks, which suggests that AGI is unreachable.
  • Thus, the massive Gen AI capex is likely mostly a wasted investment, which should burst the Gen AI bubble.
  • The S&P 500 is heavily weighted by AI-related tech mega-caps. Thus, the S&P 500 bubble is likely to burst as well.

AGI - Artificial general intelligence. text on yellow digital background.

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The Investment Context

The Gen AI theme has been the primary force shaping the financial markets since Microsoft Corporation (MSFT) invested in OpenAI and ChatGPT in late 2022. The tech mega-caps companies associated with the

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Damir Tokic
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Et20
Yesterday, 9:19 PM
AI writes code for me so... whatever
DLA90
Yesterday, 6:40 PM
VRSSF might have the answer. Check it out.
cat2005
Yesterday, 6:29 PM
". . . but also by quitting the problem."

HaHa . . . AI does "rage quit" too!

Yes, all "quit" is "rage quit". LOL.
FARTO
Yesterday, 5:45 PM
How to write a Damir clickbait article

Call something hype, find one piece of evidence against it, have a completely superficial understanding of the topic, apply an incredible leap of logic based on that superficial understanding, conclude that the sky must be falling.

No understanding, no vision, no money.
DanOB
Yesterday, 6:40 PM
@FARTO I don't read the articles anymore. Always doom. Market has rallied hard while he keeps saying get out. Total Bear.
Dalit
Yesterday, 4:52 PM
Sounds like a case of the Traveling Salesman problem. Write a program that can find the optimal route over 100+ stops. Computers absolutely choke on this at a certain number of variables- the process isn't up to the task. Meanwhile, from this perspective, every UPS guy is a secret math genius for solving this problem with experience and mostly just by glancing at it. Human brains are pretty awesome.

Still, wasted investment? It's R&D, who knows what the payoff is?
GlobalDrifter
Yesterday, 4:44 PM
AI is a misnomer but whatever the proper term I use it everyday as it has capabilities that didn't exist a few years ago. I use it for advanced Excel formulas, script coding, create pictures, enhance writings and deeper explanation for anything that a search wouldn't directly summarize. I don't trust the latter much but may use 3 AI engines and look for similar explanation, less trust if differing, useful if all agreeing. And then there are functions that aren't AI but apparently use AI libraries like Circle to Search, advanced photo editing, etc.

Apple is right that AI is overstated and not really a simulation of the mind but 'AI' players allow for capabilities that are perhaps 2-3 leaps higher than what Apple offers and Apple might struggle to catch up. Apple is ultimately not playing the right card here. They are behind period, downplaying 'AI' rather than attempting to leapfrog. Adapting 3rd party AI into Apple ecosystem is probably a mistake long term.

Google probably has best chance to monetize AI with a strong profit, the others might struggle relative to the cost of resources to drive AI.
boriskhv
Yesterday, 2:46 PM
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I respectfully disagree with the article, but not with the conclusion. GenAI even in its current state already found a lot of use in content creation, customer service and process automation, and it's only beginning. A company doesn't need AGI to automate forms filling in some old software, so operators will no longer be needed.

I don't disagree that SP500 is overvalued, but I think the bubble will pop for different reasons (tariffs, inflation and massive gov't and personal debt).
greedyfellow
Yesterday, 3:24 PM
@boriskhv the end-user software revenue produced from everything you described is a small fraction of the costs.
Amstragram
Yesterday, 1:41 PM
Yann LeCun just made a very strong statement about the CEO of Miateal AI i think, saying his claim to reach AGI were totally irrealistic. There is also in interesting study showing that returns on machine learning were decreasing, but what will sustain Capex will be the declining energy cost due to better hardware, cpu and gpu.
Jordan Gekko
Yesterday, 3:05 PM
@Amstragram don’t think irrealistic is a word. Too lazy to look it up
BuckingTrends
Yesterday, 4:38 PM
@Jordan Gekko Irridiculous that you are sew lazy.
Jordan Gekko
Yesterday, 5:24 PM
@BuckingTrends the search would take too long 🫢
DD6406
Yesterday, 12:46 PM
In the research paper's conclusion, the authors state "...our findings reveal fundamental limitations in current models" suggests that we're facing a significant hurdle with complex tasks using current AI models. However, it's highly possible that future new and improved Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) models could overcome this barrier.

Personally, I'm skeptical that we'll see significant breakthroughs in AGI models anytime soon, especially when it comes to tackling complex tasks. Nevertheless, I believe that current AI technologies like Machine Learning (ML), Natural Language Processing (NLP), Robotic Process Automation (RPA), and "Weak" AI can still be further developed to drive productivity gains in various industries, including healthcare, manufacturing, customer service, finance, and marketing. While researchers continue to work on addressing the complex task barrier in AGI, these more specialized AI models can still make a meaningful impact.

It's likely to be a while before AGI systems are capable of independently developing new drug treatments or achieving similar feats that require human-like intelligence. Darn.

I'm curious about the investment landscape, particularly among S&P 500 tech companies. How much are they investing in AGI research versus other types of AI? Based on the current state of AGI models and their limitations, I think the notion that the S&P 500 will collapse due to these limitations is a bit exaggerated.

There are still many open questions, and I'm not convinced that the current challenges in AGI development warrant a drastic response, such as selling all my tech stocks and hiding in a cave. Instead, I'll keep a close eye on AI developments and AI news and adjust my investment strategy accordingly.

While it's impossible to predict with certainty when the S&P 500 will experience its next major downturn, it's likely that it will happen at some point, potentially presenting a once-in-a-generation buying opportunity. Q1 2026?

I do believe that, based on traditional valuation models, the S&P 500 is in significant bubble territory.

The research paper summary is on Apple's machine learning website: https://tinyurl.com/2f8h2fpe and the direct link to the paper is: https://tinyurl.com/49xrwnew
Yanks56
Yesterday, 4:46 PM
@DD6406 why darn? You want people replaced by machines?
senkora
Yesterday, 6:27 PM
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@Yanks56 i want to be replaced by a machine personally.
DD6406
Today, 12:57 AM
@Yanks56 No, I absolutely do not want people replaced by machines. I was being sardonic. AI can't be controlled, though, we've let the genie out of the bottle. It's only a matter of time now...

In 2015, Hawking, the world’s preeminent theoretical physicist (at the time), wrote that the threat A.I. poses to humans is very real, and machines one day could overthrow and exterminate their masters:

“The real risk with AI isn’t malice but competence. A superintelligent AI will be extremely good at accomplishing its goals, and if those goals aren’t aligned with ours, we’re in trouble. You’re probably not an evil ant-hater who steps on ants out of malice, but if you’re in charge of a hydroelectric green energy project and there’s an anthill in the region to be flooded, too bad for the ants. Let’s not place humanity in the position of those ants.”

www.reddit.com/...
Rocksmani_00
Yesterday, 12:24 PM
I firmly believe that we are in an AI bubble and waiting for bust. Lets see when and how that happens.
Mihu Schaeffer
Yesterday, 4:02 PM
@Rocksmani_00 They poured tons of money in it. Not easy to say “I was wrong”.
senkora
Yesterday, 6:27 PM
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@Rocksmani_00 That will be the best time to invest in AI though.
Rocksmani_00
Yesterday, 6:30 PM
@senkora nope, never. It has become like a commodity and will become a necessity for product companies to offer free bundling with their products to justify value.
B Koch
Yesterday, 12:14 PM
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Goldman Sachs put out a research study last year with similar conclusions...the pace of capital investment is outpacing the benefits gained. There will be a breakthrough at some point, but before we get there, expect a correction in AI focused companies.
Out_on_a_limb
Yesterday, 12:25 PM
@B Koch This is like saying there will be a recession. No wisdom here. Tell me the path.
Mihu Schaeffer
Yesterday, 4:04 PM
@Out_on_a_limb …and the dates? Good one!
greedyfellow
Yesterday, 12:05 PM
The reason we have this mania is we haven't had free-market capitalism for 15 years. We have the same old companies who don't know what to do with the $16T federal deficit money that landed on their balance sheets.

Each decade of the computing industry produced new leading companies, new leading products and new architectures until 10 years ago. But then we Japanified the economy with QE.

1965 - 1975 - C, Unix, DEC, IBM
1975 - 1985 - Apple, Microsoft
1985 - 1995 - Networking, Cisco, Sun, Novell, EMC, Netapp
1995 - 2005 - Internet, Yahoo, Ebay, Google, Amazon, Nvidia
2005 - 2015 - Cloud (various companies)

2015 - 2025 - Huge multi-trillion venture capital waste thanks to QE forever, $30T of worldwide QE, countless Fed bailouts, fraud, WeWork, SPACs, crypto, 1200 zombie unicorns in the US alone.....

The Mag 6 of 2015 are the Mag 6 of 2025. You won't find this in any other past decade - because we had free-market capitalism in the past producing new champions every few years.
Out_on_a_limb
Yesterday, 12:15 PM
@greedyfellow Biased thinking. Creativity and waste/fraud go hand in hand because they are both capitalism expressions: Man wants to enrich himself, but one is legal, while the other one is dubious/illegal.

BTC should be made illegal because it destroys the very notion of effort to enrich oneself, but politicians keep it so they can benefit from it. It is clearly a Ponzi scheme which is a threat to the real economy.
Scott27
Yesterday, 1:41 PM
@greedyfellow Insightful macro comment:…”same old companies who don't know what to do with the $16T federal deficit money that landed on their balance sheets.”
Amstragram
Yesterday, 1:44 PM
@Out_on_a_limb indeed ... BTC is the most blatant breakdown of the enrichment through value added production. Crypto only consume resources and are truly the ultimately greed vehicle, the biggest ponzi ever.
brain dead investor
Yesterday, 11:29 AM
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I am not smart enough to understand this article. But if deepseek truly outperforms at a fraction of the cost that will have serious consequences regarding ROI for these companies long term. I have also come to the conclusion that if the sole goal of humanity is to create a machine that is smarter than they are, it will be an extinction event for humanity over time.

Anyway, if apple is the only major tech who is hesitating to spend huge amounts of money, it is eerily reminiscent of Toyota's decision years ago not to go full E.V and stick with hybrid tech. Everyone thought they were idiots but they were correct in their view.

Crazy times we are in.
dalmond
Yesterday, 3:51 PM
@brain dead investor
And really for the same reason. The reason electric cars have hit a ceiling is due to a lack of a robust, dedicated electric grid. Simple fact is that in the US at least, there are vastly too few charging stations for EV's to be practical. Really just home charging is realistic, and this is why we're seeing a kind of ceiling with EV's.

AI has the same problem, availability of electricity. Lyn Alden provides an interesting perspective:

"And here’s the crazy thing: the brain runs on only about 20 watts of power. That’s less than an incandescent lightbulb. In comparison, the top supercomputers that rival the human brain in terms of estimated calculations per second currently run at over 20 megawatts, or about a million times as much power. They take up about as much floorspace as a large mansion."

She comes to the same conclusion as this article, and some of the comments here. Here's her article:

www.lynalden.com/...
marcuus1981
Yesterday, 11:23 AM
There will be a break through on this issue at some point in time, but when that might be is difficult to predict. This year, not likely. Next year is a maybe. I think we are looking at least 5-10 years down the road before AI takes on a new profile, and usefulness. Maybe never.
ALLQ
Yesterday, 10:17 AM
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Yes, Apple’s research is top-notch and thought-provoking for those willing to listen and reflect, but it doesn’t resonate with the frenzied masses or even with reasonably smart traders. Simple problems have been solved quickly using neural networks, and further progress isn’t possible at this point. The best example that comes to mind is the attempt to create a copy of the human brain—there’s no chance, at least in the near future. Agreed: buy SOXS!
susan58
Yesterday, 11:50 AM
@ALLQ
If you're bearish, see the June 11 CNBC video of analyst Scott Wren's market prediction (It is online). He predicts S&P 500 6,500 by the end of 2026, not this year! He emphasizes that the S&P 500 has already gone above his 6,000 predicted high for this year. Also, Wren, like nearly all other market commentators, doesn't tell us what's really causing this spectacular rally that began in early April - it's not driven by ordinary investors/traders, and it has nothing to do with the daily market narrative, currently dominated by talk about tariffs and AI.
Out_on_a_limb
Yesterday, 10:16 AM
This article is a joke. AI at the present stage is sufficient to improve many things.

The mentioned study is comparable to before Deep Blue won over Kasparov. Science is an iterative process. The program failed until it won after successive improvements.
ExitApproaching
Yesterday, 12:52 PM
@Out_on_a_limb Yes, I have been using chatGPT everyday. Last night, I generated code that would have taken a team of experts days to generate in a couple hours....then I took a hike..when I had a bug on me I uploaded the image to make sure it was not a deer tick...I mean it does not need to reach "AGI" to be a huge boost in productivity and useful for everyday things....
Out_on_a_limb
Yesterday, 1:08 PM
@ExitApproaching 👍 Exactly. But as with any tool, it can be a boon or a nuisance.

The exchange with bjorn2z was fun because he is simply pessimistic and spouts what comes to his mind to make his point. He didn't demonstrate anything but thinks highly of himself. That happens all the time on forums, although often with less educated people.
Mihu Schaeffer
Yesterday, 4:13 PM
@ExitApproaching So you can keep your brain in a safe deposit box?
Bruce Roberts
Yesterday, 10:11 AM
For portfolios that must stay invested in large cap, possible EQWL may be a suitable alternative.
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