I have never been as angry at Donald Trump as I am tonight.

Read Mary’s book. It explains a lot. The apple didn’t fall far from the tree.

To be sure...but I’m imagining people (don’t ask for any names!) who had it that bad and worse, yet turned out OK, or OKer, than DJT.

It's hard to know from the outside what is as bad. So much has to do with seemingly tiny factors, in the environment and the child.

That is exactly correct. Mary’s book starts by stipulating to the fact that Trump is a monstrous sociopath. Then she shows the reader how he got that way, chapter by nauseating chapter. By the end, you realize that we, like Trump’s family, are in an abusive relationship with a deeply disturbed individual. 

Another diarist tonight commented on the deep and frightening hatred he feels toward Trump. The poster provides an example of the pathology that Trump has inflicted on much of the nation.

Our prayers and actions should be that his electoral defeat is swift and decisive. Only then we can begin to heal as individuals and as a nation.

It’s not only tRump, I am terribly frustrated and angry at all of the millions of people who still think he’s so freakin’ awesome.  I’ll never get over it. 

These people are damaged monsters and our country is broken. 

But it can be fixed.  Fixed by the people who are not damaged monsters, fixed by those who can love each other and do the work so needed….. they are all still here.  Once he’s gone, the real, hard work is still there to be done…..

And, Matt, I said this to my husband the other day, that I never thought I could feel such hatred for anyone as I feel towards Drumpf.  You aren’t the only one, my friend.

Masks — an interesting study was done, those that refused to wear masks also test out high on other sociopathic behaviors...lack of empathy, only caring about themselves, etc. which unfortunately implies there is a higher % of sociopaths than the usual statistic given of 4%. We are definitely in an abusive relationship right now, and those of us (self included) with abusive pasts are being severely triggered.

Racists will always love a racist.

Even if he is killing them and destroying their country.  Just amazing.

I feel what you feel about his supporters. Yesterday as I drove down our version of Main St, I entered a Twilight Zone of suckers and sycophants'.

Apparently, Saturday was a “tRump Parade” which had the big trucks out like the Calvary, with big, obnoxious  tRump flags flapping in the breeze. A band was at our downtown park (old vets supporting a draft dodger) the Republican headquarters handing out tRump signs and fellow cult members holding their own. W T F ??!!!???!!!!!

I kept my middle finger up and firmly in place; it was cussed out but not as much as I’ve been cussing since escaping. How do they ignore his every lie and all the ways he’s enriched himself as POTUS, and, and, and…

We live in a rural, northern CA county, full of cow-loving “farmers” like Devin Nunes. CA is far more “blue” than “red,” but pockets of rabidly red counties of tobaccy-spitin’ racists and ranchers exists. Puke.

Wow, same thing happened here in my town in Tuolumne County.  Sickening!  And there aren’t too many of these, but with the trump people, they aren’t just satisfied with a lawn sign.  It has to be a huge display with multiple flags and signs and lighted up displays at night.  Our neighborhood idiot added a new sign recently: “say no to creepy joe”.  Deplorables indeed. But was heartened when I drove through downtown yesterday, there was a small Black Lives Matter demonstration.  I keep telling myself “This too shall pass”, but it sure is taking a long time.

Hey Carol! When I made reference to “our version of Main St.,” I was talking about Washington St in downtown Sonora! So happy to “meet” a neighbor on this site… any way to private message me? I just “followed” you :)) 

I didn’t notice a BLM gathering, probably because I was too busy trying to ignore the angry mob behind my middle finger. I’ve also got one of those neighbors, who put a huge, red tRump banner across his fence facing the street. I have to drive by it every time to get in and out of our street. Argh... 

I had a feeling, your description sounded so familiar!  I followed you too.  Nice to meet you Neighbor.  I am a little up the hill, no other houses in sight, and no trump flags.  I have started altering my route so I don’t have to go by that one a-hole’s house.

You perfectly state my issue. But I got to that point in 2004, when the majority of Americans voted for Bush, who clearly deceived the U.S. into war with Iraq. The lesson is that you CAN’T underestimate the stupidity and flop-sweat fearfulness of one-third of eligible voters.  Oh, and in their vulnerability they are totally available for signing on to a cruel, stupid, short-sighted political agenda

True, through the ages, they are always there.  They supported Hitler, McCarthy, etc.etc. etc.   They are the ones that always fall for the con-men and the weird conspiracy theories that make no sense. The difference now is that their guy is the POTUS.  Dog help us all!

Most of the ones that I know are about my age (early 60s), have always been lazy, had some early success at easy jobs but now the world has passed them by.  They’re angry at all the people who actually worked to get somewhere.  Trump shows them that it’s possible to achieve some success by lying, cheating and being a bully without doing any actual work.  And he also gives them other people to blame all of their problems on.  But deep down, they all know the truth—they would just rather drop dead than have to admit it.  As long as Trump is there, they don’t have to.  Once Trump is gone, I think they’ll all turn to stone then dissolve into a pile of dust like the villians in a Stan Lee Marvel movie.

I really don’t know any of his supporters personally.  I don’t have any Republican friends, don’t wish to. I do have acquaintances and co-workers that voted for him, but the only thing that works for these people is to make sure and stay on non-controversial subjects always.

I only know one or two, and these are people I’ve known for 40 years.  They used to be good people and I think there’s still a good side to them, still, as you said, if I talk with them I have to stay on non-controversial topics.  And honestly, I do find lately that I’m pretty much avoiding talking with them at all.  Alas.

I totally agree with your analysis of Trump, as well as your prescription for the country. I am very confident now that voters will give a loud, clear, and decisive pro-Dem (and pro-democracy) message on Nov. 3rd. And all kidding aside, I think the next national health plan should set aside large sums of money for mental health care on demand-  for anyone who needs it.

For now, think both self-care AND  GOTV!!!

Did you literally link to THIS diary in its own comments?

That was freaking bizarre. I thought I’d skipped to a different page without knowing it.

Trump was not only affected by his parents but I imagine that is a genetic component to his condition.  He also seemed to gravitate to other sociopaths, like members of the mob and to people like Roy Cohn, Roger Stone, Steven Miller and Steve Bannon.  

Your comment made me cry.

So true.

So tragic.

So much a call to be my best self.

So it-didn’t-have-to-be-this-way.

You can start with Mom’s health crisis when he was 2.5 years old, and continuing bad health.  Dad made lots of money, but he only thought in terms of “killers and losers.”  The oldest daughter Mary had to be ‘mom’ to younger siblings.  

Read Mary Trump’s book.  Tolstoy wrote, “All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”  Tolstoy wasn’t wrong in this.

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My mother used to say she had dreams of torturing Hitler to death.  But for all her life as I knew her she never wanted to hurt anything more than invading bugs in the house.  Some situations are extreme.

He’s not worth it.

I’m not a believer but the Serenity Prayer  is a great reminder during challenging times:

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change
Courage to change the things I can
And wisdom to know the difference

You can ask it of God or yourself, whichever fits your spiritual and/or worldview.

Trump simply is not worth jeopardizing your health and well-being over. Do what you can like vent here and VOTE and possibly find something you enjoy as a distraction from the relentless insanity. For me, it’s time in the garden and listening to music. I will NEVER let that orange POS have control over my happiness in any way, shape, or form.

I don’t believe in God anymore. I stopped the night Trump was elected. 

Humanity is coming back to the White House 

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I have seen Joe Biden receive this award several times. I have cried all the way through the ceremony. He is truly a great man, and I am absolutely certain that he will be a great President.

Even more important, especially in this time, he is truly a good man.  How healing it will be to restore humanity and decency to the White House.

There’s nothing wrong with you for hating Trump.

While he holds power, Trumps actions are a legitimate threat to you and your loved ones. Hating him is a defensive instinct. Your lizard brain wants to prevent the future harm you anticipate he will do to you.

This is one of those times that you need to sit back and kind of observe your mind and emotions and not judge yourself about them.

Ok.  You hate Trump.  You wish he would die of covid or whatever. So what?  What you really want is the removal of the threat. And that’s okay.

So the way to respond without generating other problems for yourself is to vent your frustrations online, vote, and get other like-minded people to vote, so that the threat is stripped of it’s ability to do harm. 

Then let nature take its course because he’s about to reap the consequences of the past harms he’s done via charges from the State of NY and massive debts coming due.  Not to mention mother nature’s 2 x 4 upside the head for not social distancing.

And the you can sit back with your hate and a favorite beverage and enjoy the sweet taste of schadenfreude.

I DON’T wish he’d die of Covid. Hell no! That lets him off the hook. Plus, then he’d get a state funeral with the media slobbering all over him and rewriting his depraved crimes as “controversies” . The idea is obscene to me.

He deserves to be in prison for treason, collusion, grand larceny, mass murder, genocide, fomenting insurrection, kidnapping, and rape and he should have to suffer the harshest penalty for those crimes allowed by law. I’m talking the Green Mile. Which will be a millionth of the suffering he has inflicted upon the rest of us. 

Dying in agony alone in a comfy hospital bed is too good for him. 

I agree.  As they said on SNL (I read), I hope he has a long recovery—but I’ll add followed by a quick trial and a long prison term.

I just watched the beginning of the show; Chris Rock came on and said “yeah, I heard trump is in the hospital with Covid.  My heart goes out to Covid.”

I am more tired than angry. I just want to be rid of him. If he dies, then that's it, done, over. I can't contemplate the chaos of his trial, his tweets, his hogging the media.  I could not cope with that. I want some level of peace & calm.

I can’t accept that. He HAS to be held to account, no matter how painful it will be to the rest of us. Otherwise the GOP will wait ten years and total;y rehabilitate his image with the public. That’s already happened to George W Bush who now enjoys an appalling 62% approval rating for the honor of no longer being the worst President of all time. A trial is gonna hurt, it’s gonna suck, but it has to happen. He needs to be in prison for the rest of his life, and I would argue his lifespan at this point needs to be decided by the board of corrections, and it needs to be decided to be short and finite. If Trump dies quietly of COVID, this will all happen again in 8-12 years with President Alex Jones. I can’t do this again. The country can’t either. 

The NY AG is all over this. There will be charges, swiftly executed and competently pursued, if tRumpf does not win re-election. 

Please be right. And let justice be swift and not dragged out into a circus. 

That’s what’s really hurting you — the hopeless feeling of there being No JUSTICE. If there were a god, there’d be justice. Instead, the corrupt and greedy are ruling the world.

I share your pain, depair and rage, and I want justice, I’d love to see the entire cabal get what they deserve. But at this point I’d be happy to have Twitler disappear, and not hog every hour of every news cycle every single day, sucking the energy out of the world, and maybe we can get back to focusing on the part of the human race that is decent, and fix the ecological mess we’ve created.

ruTmp never goes to jail.  Maybe a fine.  Any trial will be circus maximus.  The psychic damage will take decade to heal.  Let it be.

I totally understand how you feel. Nothing bad about the way you feel. We feel what we feel. I have CFS, & not enough energy to feel that white hot, intense anger that you & others have. But I still want him in prison. Part of me wonders if it really will happen. The only thing worse would be him not going to prison. 

I have more anger in the morning when I have more energy. What really pisses me off is the way WH & GOP are spinning Trump's Covid - that he is actually brave, courageous, & I forget what other garbage bag of lies was spewed out of conservative media, I skimmed some articles today till I was too angry & sick to my stomach,

Don’t forget emoluments violations. 

I really hope this it true. Because I love my favorite beverage. 

Yes.  When you see your mechanical reaction to the current situation...fear for your survival….you will see how others operate, too.  Lord have mercy on us.

So your reaction is your machinery..it’s working….but remember, 

This is not “I”.  This is not your true self.  Your true self, if you could touch it and exist in it for a moment, belongs to a level higher than like/dislike, fear/bliss. 

I wouldn’t advise nurturing the mechanical negative feelings, just see it as if you were not that.  “This is not I”.  

Waking up to this is a strange feeling, but oddly familiar.  It is a moment of reality, of remembering oneself, a shock, and it informs you of the possible real world.

You do not need to believe in God to believe in goodness.  I became an ex-Catholic at 14.  I cycled through years of hate against God and disbelief against God.

I have been hurt very badly in the name of God, just because i am transgender.

But I have never stopped believing in goodness.  We just need more of the good people to speak up.  We may be seeing the start of some of that.

There had been goodness all over the place. Let’s just hope it continues after the election. 

My parents misinformed me about God.  Not their fault.  I work at forgiveness...it’s possible and necessary if I want to evolve.

Basic ignorance about our true nature.  The idea that God is up there and we are down here, and “HE” will punish us.  Sad.

There ARE, sadly...people who will not do right and do good...because it is right and good….and they NEED the promise of a reward or the threat of eternal damnation to do right and good.

The problem is those who DO need that...assume the rest of us do, too.  We do not.

Sending you love. I’m so very sorry for your-and so many of ours- suffering. I wish I could wish it away. 

I can’t wait to feel what I will feel if I wake up to a Biden win someday. And then I will do everything in my power to support his attempt to bring back the America that I know and love. I’ll give him 4 years. If he can’t do it, I’m moving to New Zealand. 

It always takes longer to clean up a mess than to make it.  VoldeTrump and his GOP Death Eaters wrecked our country in less than four years; it may take at least twice that to turn things completely around.  

Four years is probably not enough.  But it will be a start.

I suspect you don’t have long to wait.  Less than a month now.  There is no way that Dolt45 is stealing this election, no way at all.  People are angry and they have the right to be angry.  More and more each day, I am convinced Biden’s win will be the biggest landslide in US history.  I’d even put money on it.  People KNOW what Drumpf is now, many didn’t in ‘16.  He’s going down.

ruTmp is the outward sign of GOP rot.  40% still believe white is good, greed is good. No landslide.

Biden can’t do it unless he is under constant sustained pressure from us to do the right thing. Trump is only a tiny part of the problem, and getting rid of him (if it happens) will only solve a little problem. The bigger problem is all the people who support white authority and wealth authority and male authority — mostly in the GOP, but also some Democrats.

Even if we win this first battle, we still have to fight with all our energy, for the foreseeable future.

Nice thoughts.  I don’t try and achieve happiness, since it seems to come from other causes.  I get a promotion, I’m happy; my dog dies, I’m sad.  Better, I think, is to achieve peace of mind; to endure happiness and sadness, alike.

Mostly, when you’re happy, it is part of a recollection.  “Ah, I was happy then.”  And usually, you were mindlessly involved in some other effort, outside of normal, human self-absorption.

If you are fortunate enough to have an animal companion in your life, let him or her offer you some comfort. They are very good about it.

If not, you might just consider an adoption.

Namaste, my friend. I feel your pain.

I have a lot of stuffed animals I snuggle when I’m blue. I’ll probably do that when I get off the computer. 

Good idea. 

This is my animal companion.  Her name is Gypsy.  She is 105 pounds of love.

We lost our second animal companion two days ago…

she went to Rainbow Bridge.

Very sorry for your loss, sister.

Also very glad that your girl Gypsy is well and there with you.

I lost one of my two collies over the rainbow bridge nearly 3 weeks ago. I have been so consumed with grief there is nothing left in me to feel anything else.

So sorry...it hurts so bad when we lose one of our furbabies.  They are family.  Still grieving Tricksy, but still have Gypsy to help with that.

One of my grateful things - I have Baxter to help with the loss.

And a good thing you do.  What was your beloved pup’s name?

I hope your pup and Tricksy will be good friends at the Rainbow Bridge.

I also have Gyspy to help me through.

Actually….to be fair about it...Gypsy has ME.

Mine was Jazzie, aka Razzie Jazzie, or whiny baby. He was a barker & whiner. Jazzie is there with his older brother Cheyenne who died 5 years ago. They were very much attached to each other. I have been waking  up in the morning with an image of them running around in my head.

So sorry. We lost our pup, who was 15, 2 weeks ago. It is so hard… it will take a while, but you will be o.k.

Oh, so sad...well, perhaps Jazzie and Tricksy and your pup will all be good friends at the Bridge.  What was your pup’s name??

She was Darla. Darling Darla. 

How sweet.  Well, perhaps Darla and Jazzie and Tricksy can all be good friends at the Bridge.  We will see them again some day.

You’re not alone. Don’t fight the anger. My nervous system is overloaded because of today. Find your gratitude. You see it. You know it. You are not alone. Your mother is getting better. Breathe. Deeply breath. As you blow out, blow all the air out and picture that negativity leaving you. Honor yourself. Again, you are not alone and we are the majority.

Socially distance {{HUGS}} is there a nice calming herbal tea you enjoy, if so make yourself a cup. Maybe you should watch Endgame as watching the destruction of the Borg and Voyager heading home always cheers me up. The Borg go down November 3rd

I have my earbuds in, and I’m listening to Calm Radio Positivity Channel. The selections are purposefully chosen to lift mood. My doctor suggested it to me to help with the Depression I was struggling with a few months ago. Fortunately, I responded to medication, but I kept the music suggestion. Calm Radio has both a FREE and a Subscriber offering:

Calm Radio

I immediately went for it as soon as I realized what he was doing. I encourage you to try it, Positivity Channel, for just a bit, tonight, to see if it helps you like it has helped me.  I started with FREE, and the monthly subscription I went to is one of my most important gifts to my self through these trying times.

Prays for peace and comfort.

Welcome to the team. I’ve never hated anyone in my 57 years but I learned to hate tRump within months of his taking office. I wish I could have finished life without feeling this.

I posted this comment on January 13, 2017:

I think Trump is uniquely awful.  The other day, I recounted to my wife how upset I was when Reagan was shot.  I was no political fan of his, at all.  But no matter.  At that moment, my country’s president had been shot.  I was very saddened.  I told her I honestly anticipated no such feelings if something ever happened to Trump.  She replied something like:  But wouldn’t you still feel something, just because he’s a human being?  I shook my head and said something like — I don’t think so.  He’s so inhuman, so cruel, he cares about nothing but himself. It’s awful that I should say this, but I really don’t care what happens to him.  She looked at me very sadly and said, quietly:  Me too.

Wow. 2017. Me too. Every day. Me too. I consider my self to be a very good person, and almost everyone who knows me says that too… and yet… 

As much as I am not religious, I recognize this man as evil. 

I have encountered this once before, in a Boss who was spectacularly good at his job, because he was willing to throw many employees under the bus to get ahead. And he did. 

We need this damage to be voted out. We need this stain to be cleansed. We need this octopus family that has occupied OUR HOUSE for 4 endless years to be banished, and we need to take our country back. There is an epidemic of sleeplessness in this country. We need to be able to get some damned sleep. 

I co-sign everything you said, apart from the octopus part — octopuses (that is the correct plural) are sensitive, intelligent and important parts of the ecosystems they inhabit.

Perhaps “kraken” family would be more appropriate — fearsome mythical beasts from the depths and, like the T family, they don’t really exist.

 I stand corrected. Lol. 

:-)

*snerk*

What I try to do is think of him as a baby and toddler.  There had to be a time when he was not a bad person.

Sending you and your mom hugs. He’s an asshole. You’re not. He doesn’t care about you, but your mom does. Her love matters. His hate doesn’t.

He’s pretty revolting when I think of him in human terms. What I usually do is slip into my humans-are-just-animals mode and it is much better. Even the worst orangutan, could you hate that much? The worst ferret? Bear? Puppy? He’s a messed up animal,  bad for his pack. He should be banished, but hating...that’s a lot of work for a messed up Taskanian devil.

I completely understand where you’re coming from. When you feel that anger start to well up, try to envision something that gives you peace or comfort, don’t let Trump get into your psyche. Breathe slowly and deeply for a few minutes and say to your self, this piece of crap of a man is not going to get to me, because we are going to flush this turd on November 3rd!. We are all in the same boat having to deal with him in all of our lives. We will get through this. 👍✌️🙂

207,000 people didn’t. And counting. 

Yes, you’re right, but we have to be strong and fight for them since they are no longer here. 🦋

Taking action helps: I’ve gotten get-out-the-vote kits.  When he enrages me, I write to some voters in swing states to encourage them for our side. It blows off some of the adrenaline.

Me, too. Channel the rage. I get mad or nervous about the election, I go text banking.

It’s so easy, and you’ll feel so much better because of the responses you get.

I’ve spent more time texting to Florida than any other state, and those voters are kicking ass.

We started by asking them if they want to vote absentee and texting links to the Florida site to do that.

But if they want to vote in person, we encourage them to vote early, give them the dates and a link to find sites in their area.

We follow up and ask if they got their ballot and tell them they can return in person and a link where they can know it’s arrived safely.

This week, for the first time, I started hearing from people who’d already returned their ballots, and it feels great to know you helped get one vote in.

It’s something you can easily do a little at a time throughout your day while working.

Send a batch of texts, wait for responses to come back. It’s usually just a handful at a time, so just a few minutes to handle. Responses are written for you. You click on one and it pops in.

People are so excited to vote this year. They can’t wait.

Biden looks really good in Florida.

Wow. You can tell it’s late. I’m texting with www.resistancelabs.com on Spoke, for various progressive groups. It’s set up so you can jump in anytime you want and do as much as you want. They have different campaigns going on all the time.

Thank you for all that great work. I, too, have been depressed about the orange monster, but your work has really given me hope.

Join me. It feels great, and so many people thank you for the info.